[12:43] <mdz> howdy
[12:43] <mdz> how do I go about requesting an Ubuntu Member cloak?
[12:46] <erUSUL> make sure your nick is set up and with a mail address
[12:46] <erUSUL> !register
[12:47] <erUSUL> mdz: also put the url of your launchpad here so they can check your memeber status
[12:47] <mdz> http://launchpad.net/~mdz
[12:47] <mdz> this nick is registered
[12:48] <erUSUL> now; wait and be patient :)
[12:48] <erUSUL> names
[12:49] <erUSUL> elky: Pricey jussi01 ping?
[12:57] <jussi01> hiya mdz
[12:59] <jussi01> mdz: As I understand it, we are not to give out member cloaks to Canonical staff, but you need to go get a canonical cloak from whoever the group contact for canonical is. I have a feeling that is James troup, but not certain of that at all.
[13:00] <nhandler> jussi01: I know for a fact that Canonical employees can get ubuntu member cloaks. If you want to confirm that, just do a /msg nickserv info dholbach (who is a canonical employee)
[13:01] <jussi01> nhandler: noted, but still, Ive been informed otherwise for now. Untill Im told differently, thats what Im going with. (and is that a legacy one perhaps?)
[13:04] <nhandler> jussi01: Well, I'm not sure what the real policy is, but I have seen *many* canonical employees with Ubuntu member cloaks. I have seen a few canonical cloaks for the LP people, as well as some canonical gateway cloaks, but most of them tend to have ubuntu/member cloaks. But, in the end, it is your decision
[13:04] <mdz> hmm, interesting
[13:05] <mdz> the only documentation I found was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcTeam/Cloaks and it states that all Ubuntu members are eligible
[13:05] <jussi01> mdz: Ive nothing against approving a cloak for you :) but I was told not to for canonical empoyees. However, until I get this checked, I dont want to go against it.
[13:06] <mdz> by the way, it would be nice if the explanation at https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-irc-cloaks linked to  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcTeam/Cloaks
[13:06] <jussi01> mdz: so it does. Im curious to why its been told other wise.
[13:06] <mdz> jussi01, could you check into it and get back to me when you know more?
[13:08] <jussi01> mdz: absolutely. and I fixed the page for you :)
[13:11] <mdz> jussi01, thanks
[13:36] <ubot2> In #ubuntu-ir, Mohammad[B] said: !forget
[13:37] <niko> thanks ubot2
[13:37] <niko> always usefull :)
[13:55] <jussi01> mdz: Sorry for the wait, Ive been corrected. Please set an email on your account, see: /msg nickserv help set email
[13:55] <jussi01> Pricey: nalioth other staff, please cloak mdz with an ubuntu member cloak.
[13:55] <mdz> jussi01, does it matter what I set the email to?
[13:55] <niko> jussi01: ok
[13:56] <jussi01> mdz: as long as its not a throwawyay email, I dont beleive so.
[13:58] <niko> i just wait for the email setted
[14:13] <jussi01> mdz: did you get sorted?
[15:08] <erUSUL> is _IdiotObama_ a violation on nicknames rules ?
[15:20] <bazhang> it offends me..
[15:22] <erUSUL> well he left already...
[15:25] <jussi01> no, its not. IMHO
[15:29] <LjL> it's not like there *are* explicit nickname rules in the first place
[15:30] <erUSUL> \/nick jususchrist_is_a_dick
[15:32] <erUSUL> ok; reread ircguidelines thoought there was something about nicks there
[15:32] <erUSUL> but there is not :)
[15:33] <bazhang> something really offensive to all/most seems pretty clear cut
[15:34] <bazhang> eg very explicit nicknames
[15:34] <LjL> erUSUL, i didn't say that bad nicks *won't be acted upon*
[15:34] <LjL> i just said there are no explicit rules about them
[15:35] <LjL> some things are best left to human interpretation, methinks
[15:36] <erUSUL> LjL: ok; ok as i said i thought there was rules about what was a not acceptable nick... but in this case if someone had said obama is an idiot in the channel he would have gotten at least !offtopic XXDD
[15:37] <LjL> well yes, but saying it is different from having it as a nickname
[15:37] <LjL> note also that i didn't give my opinion on the appropriateness of that nickname to begin with :)
[15:39] <LjL> erUSUL: about jesus though, did you know anything containing "jesus" was banned from #ubuntu until some time ago, to begin with? do you see any problem with that?
[15:40] <erUSUL> well yes; i do not like/agree_with the aproach... but religion is a very sensitive issue so i can understan why someone may think that is neccesary to do that...
[15:41] <LjL> erUSUL: i wonder what all those people whose first name is "Jesus" thought of it, though
[15:42] <LjL> or rather Jesús, but there are no accents on irc masks
[15:42] <erUSUL> LjL: lol. people from english speaking countries do not realize how comon that name is in latin countries XXDD
[15:43] <erUSUL> my brother in law is Jesus Manuel ;)
[15:43] <LjL> erUSUL: not realizing this sort of thing is the reason i think we should always very careful making rules about nicknames
[15:51] <bazhang> ...
[15:53] <erUSUL> yep; true enough
[15:54] <bazhang> he was just outright trolling
[15:55] <LjL> that's a different issue if he was
[19:06] <niko> jussi01: mdz have no email for the moment
[21:18] <mdz> jussi01, niko, I did /msg nickserv set email ... but I never got an email at that address to confirm
[21:20] <jussi01> mdz: sounds like a freenode problem. niko Pricey nalioth or other staff member should be able to help.
[21:21] <jussi01> mdz: what was the exact command you issued (minus the email address)?
[21:21] <mdz> jussi01, I just checked and it looks like it has arrived now, and was just delayed
[21:21] <jussi01> oh, ok :)
[21:21] <mdz> jussi01, should be verified now, can you confirm?
[21:22] <jussi01> mdz: ok, I see it. you may want to /msg nickserv set hidemail on
[21:22] <mdz> jussi01, good advice, thanks
[21:22] <mdz> I didn't realize it would be published by default
[21:22] <jussi01> mdz: ok, you are good to go.
[21:23] <jussi01> could a staffer please give mdz an ubuntu member cloak ?
[21:23] <jussi01> mdz: that should be actioned soon.
[21:23] <mdz> jussi01, thanks!
[21:24] <jussi01> mdz: any other issues just ask :)
[21:25] <niko> done
[21:25] <jussi01> ok, laters all
[22:29] <niko> §ev
[22:55] <Pricey> mdz: hidemail is set by default. Your email shouldn't be public.