| fta | bug 370172 | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 370172 in linux "Disconnecting/Reconnecting USB Hubs causes wierdness" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/370172 | 00:00 |
| fta | how do i file a bug against the kernel? "apport-bug linux" says "This is not a genuine Ubuntu package" | 00:01 |
| asac | you have a special kernel? | 00:01 |
| fta | no | 00:04 |
| asac | sounds bad | 00:04 |
| asac | maybe not the latest? | 00:04 |
| asac | works for me :/ | 00:05 |
| asac | i used ubuntu-bug though | 00:05 |
| asac | not apport-bug | 00:05 |
| asac | but thats just a link afaik | 00:05 |
| fta | then the man page is wrong | 00:05 |
| * BUGabundo tests | 00:05 | |
| asac | let me upgrade to latest everywhere | 00:05 |
| fta | i'm fully up-to-date | 00:05 |
| BUGabundo | $ ubuntu-bug linux works | 00:05 |
| asac | fta: lets discuss the archive reorg tomorrow. and do that this weekend with some lag into monday if needed | 00:05 |
| fta | k | 00:06 |
| BUGabundo | $ apport-cli -fp linux works too | 00:06 |
| asac | didnt get a response on redirect yet. | 00:06 |
| asac | but i dont think that should hinder any changes | 00:06 |
| asac | we can push for that afterwards still | 00:06 |
| fta | http://paste.ubuntu.com/300134/ | 00:07 |
| asac | linux-image-2.6.31-12-generic | 00:10 |
| asac | thats old | 00:10 |
| asac | i am at -14 at least | 00:10 |
| asac | uname -a | 00:10 |
| asac | Linux tinya 2.6.31-14-generic #48-Ubuntu SMP Fri Oct 16 14:04:26 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux | 00:10 |
| asac | could be they prevent filing with old versions | 00:10 |
| fta | ? | 00:12 |
| BUGabundo | Linux BluBUG 2.6.31-14-generic #48-Ubuntu SMP Fri Oct 16 14:05:01 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux | 00:13 |
| fta | damn | 00:13 |
| asac | fta: you have -12 | 00:13 |
| asac | according to your paste | 00:13 |
| asac | *** Problem in linux-image-2.6.31-12-generic | 00:13 |
| asac | fta@ix:~ $ uname -a | 00:13 |
| asac | Linux ix 2.6.31-12-generic #41-Ubuntu SMP Wed Oct 7 18:42:46 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux | 00:13 |
| fta | yep, 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 11 not upgraded. | 00:14 |
| asac | dist-upgrade | 00:14 |
| asac | kernel not upgraded? | 00:14 |
| fta | lol | 00:14 |
| fta | i'm not a noob | 00:14 |
| asac | i know | 00:14 |
| asac | anyway | 00:14 |
| asac | so you cannot file a bug with -12 running | 00:14 |
| fta | yes, kernel & epiphany | 00:15 |
| asac | why epiphany? | 00:15 |
| fta | The following packages will be REMOVED: | 00:15 |
| fta | epiphany-gecko epiphany-webkit-data gstreamer0.10-schroedinger | 00:15 |
| asac | epiphany should be done | 00:15 |
| asac | yes | 00:15 |
| asac | thats oki ... isnt it? | 00:15 |
| fta | i don't care, i don't use epiphany at all | 00:15 |
| asac | i dont see why your kernel isnt updated | 00:16 |
| BUGabundo | fta: time for a $ sudo aptitude update ; sudo aptitude safe-upgrade ; sudo aptitude full-upgrade ? | 00:16 |
| asac | epiphany cant be the reason | 00:16 |
| BUGabundo | bad mirror? | 00:16 |
| asac | well. he doesnt really post everything | 00:16 |
| BUGabundo | staled due to major upgrades? | 00:16 |
| fta | The following packages will be upgraded: | 00:17 |
| fta | epiphany-browser-data epiphany-extensions gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic xserver-xorg-input-all | 00:17 |
| asac | maybe he has pinned it or whatver | 00:17 |
| asac | good | 00:17 |
| BUGabundo | there you go | 00:17 |
| BUGabundo | kernel upgrade | 00:17 |
| fta | (i jsut pasted the epiphany part) | 00:17 |
| asac | you said you are not a noob | 00:17 |
| asac | ;) | 00:17 |
| asac | so i thought you were really stuck | 00:17 |
| asac | so now you can update? | 00:17 |
| asac | good | 00:17 |
| asac | false alert is better than real bustage ;) | 00:18 |
| fta | assuming i've been using debian since 1997.. | 00:18 |
| asac | yes | 00:18 |
| asac | i never assumed you are noob ... in no way ;) | 00:18 |
| asac | my update gets new openoffice ;) | 00:19 |
| fta | already got it, that's why i said i was up-to-date | 00:20 |
| asac | ok | 00:20 |
| asac | yeah | 00:20 |
| fta | i just didn't check the not upgraded | 00:20 |
| asac | but it looks what you are running | 00:20 |
| asac | for linux | 00:20 |
| asac | kk | 00:20 |
| asac | gwibber is stable now btw ;) | 00:21 |
| BUGabundo | asac: my old copy of gwibber 1.2 stop pulling feeds :( | 00:21 |
| asac | BUGabundo: 2.0 is now good | 00:21 |
| asac | try it | 00:21 |
| BUGabundo | I would file a bug, but since its outdated | 00:21 |
| BUGabundo | no one is supporting it | 00:22 |
| BUGabundo | asac: I'm using it | 00:22 |
| BUGabundo | but has many bugs | 00:22 |
| asac | latest? | 00:22 |
| fta | asac, but upgrades should restart the daemon | 00:22 |
| BUGabundo | tends to jam | 00:22 |
| BUGabundo | its very slow | 00:22 |
| asac | fta: we fixed that somewhat | 00:22 |
| BUGabundo | Refresh doesn't work | 00:22 |
| BUGabundo | no Jaiku support | 00:22 |
| asac | we stop the daemon now if you explicitly quit gwibber | 00:22 |
| BUGabundo | asac: FINALLY | 00:22 |
| fta | oh; good | 00:22 |
| asac | BUGabundo: refresh works ;) | 00:22 |
| BUGabundo | I had to kill it manually | 00:22 |
| asac | BUGabundo: could be that some backend is broken | 00:22 |
| asac | we want to know which backend it is | 00:23 |
| asac | BUGabundo: maybe you are not running the build from today | 00:23 |
| BUGabundo | daily build | 00:23 |
| asac | it was approved like 8 hours ago or so | 00:23 |
| BUGabundo | 2.0 will not support Jaiku | 00:23 |
| asac | daily might be too old | 00:23 |
| asac | yes | 00:23 |
| BUGabundo | AFAIK | 00:23 |
| fta | it seems like if you upgrade gwibber without restarting it, it dies. at least until yesterday | 00:23 |
| asac | but refresh and stuff is now solid | 00:23 |
| asac | all the threading is fixed ;) | 00:23 |
| BUGabundo | Installed: 2.0.0~bzr476-0ubuntu1 | 00:23 |
| asac | fta: that might be a different thing. but gwibber died regularly | 00:23 |
| asac | just because it was using multi-ple threads | 00:23 |
| asac | without ensuring thread-safeness | 00:24 |
| BUGabundo | how come daily is older? | 00:24 |
| BUGabundo | 2.0.0~bzr473-0ubuntu2~daily1 | 00:24 |
| asac | BUGabundo: k ... i think i know what you mean | 00:24 |
| asac | the display doesnt refresh | 00:24 |
| fta | damn: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/34297729/buildlog_ubuntu-intrepid-i386.thunderbird-3.0_3.0~hg20091023r4223%2Bnobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd4~intrepid_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz | 00:24 |
| asac | thats a minor bug compared to what we have before | 00:24 |
| fta | dh_install: thunderbird-3.0 missing files (debian/tmp/usr/lib/thunderbird-3.0*/[LR]*), aborting | 00:24 |
| BUGabundo | asac: from user POV it stays the same | 00:24 |
| asac | but you can just click on "messages" again and will see all the updates | 00:24 |
| asac | BUGabundo: well. not really ;) the same | 00:24 |
| asac | you can at least get new dents/tweets | 00:25 |
| asac | usually update works | 00:25 |
| asac | but sometimes not | 00:25 |
| asac | so you get used to it until we fixs that in SRU | 00:25 |
| asac | fta: tbird is a beast | 00:25 |
| BUGabundo | and why SOOO big delay between pulling it , and showing on notify osd? | 00:25 |
| asac | BUGabundo: thats notify-osd | 00:25 |
| asac | BUGabundo: so some backends take like 3-10 seconds to pull | 00:26 |
| asac | so you get the notifications at least with that delay | 00:26 |
| BUGabundo | that's plain bad | 00:26 |
| asac | + you notify-osd also defers notifications like 10 seconds or so sometimes | 00:26 |
| BUGabundo | asac: so https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/446146 will just be SRU? | 00:26 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 446146 in linux "Huawei E169 USB dongle not working with kernel 2.6.31-12.40" [Medium,Fix committed] | 00:26 |
| asac | nothing changed there as expected | 00:27 |
| BUGabundo | :(( | 00:27 |
| BUGabundo | I guess Canonical is planing to ship CDs with updates for every affected user :p | 00:28 |
| asac | we already talked about that yesterday | 00:29 |
| BUGabundo | and ? | 00:29 |
| asac | you and me | 00:29 |
| BUGabundo | they plan to enfoce policy? | 00:29 |
| asac | i said all i think | 00:29 |
| BUGabundo | its a shame | 00:29 |
| BUGabundo | it really is | 00:29 |
| asac | no ... i didnt talk to any kernel folk, because i know the procedure. rerolling a kernel after RC is far off | 00:30 |
| BUGabundo | I know | 00:31 |
| BUGabundo | asac: so what can *I* do to | 00:31 |
| BUGabundo | fix this for me? | 00:31 |
| asac | you can grab the latest upstream daily ;) | 00:31 |
| BUGabundo | I'm tired of melting my android with tether | 00:32 |
| asac | BUGabundo: try http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.31.5/ | 00:32 |
| BUGabundo | from the kernel PPA? | 00:32 |
| asac | not sure if its in there | 00:32 |
| asac | or if you need .32 | 00:32 |
| asac | http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.32-rc5/ | 00:32 |
| BUGabundo | I'll test it | 00:32 |
| asac | i would install both and see if that works | 00:32 |
| BUGabundo | after upgrading to the newest kernel ( http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.31.5/ ), downloaded from another machine I finally found a way to connect with my E220 using the mentioned | 00:33 |
| BUGabundo | quoted from the bug | 00:33 |
| BUGabundo | Looking at the changelog for 2.6.31.5 (http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/ChangeLog-2.6.31.5) it appears Ben H's fix is included. | 00:33 |
| asac | yes | 00:34 |
| asac | so verify that the .5 works | 00:34 |
| BUGabundo | downloading now | 00:34 |
| lunatic | hey everyone i am running jaunty and have a problem with swiftfox - the browser resets all my settngs, and bookmarks/history are inacessible if i am not running browser as root | 00:43 |
| lunatic | i have tried chmod and various solutions found on the forums, but alas | 00:44 |
| lunatic | anyone with a solution? | 00:45 |
| BUGabundo | hitting the pillow. gdnuit everyone | 00:54 |
| asac | lunatic: we dont do swiftfox in here usually | 01:01 |
| asac | but following things you find on forums usually makes it worse ;) | 01:01 |
| asac | thats all i can say:) | 01:01 |
| asac | lunatic: its most likely a packaging thing | 01:02 |
| asac | if you ever run a firefox/xulrunner as root | 01:02 |
| asac | you will be busted | 01:02 |
| asac | at least on old branches you could never run it as user again | 01:02 |
| asac | so never ever run as root | 01:02 |
| lunatic | asac i had the same problem with firefox | 01:02 |
| asac | is the most important rule | 01:02 |
| asac | yes | 01:02 |
| asac | in the past that was an issue with firefox | 01:02 |
| asac | not sure if its still an issue | 01:02 |
| asac | i hoped not | 01:02 |
| asac | but running any mozilla as root is strictly destructive | 01:03 |
| lunatic | well i read that ppl got to solve the issue | 01:03 |
| asac | so what you probably need to do | 01:03 |
| asac | is to remove the package ... find everything that is left behind | 01:03 |
| asac | in the /usr/li/... directories it used | 01:03 |
| asac | and remove them manually | 01:03 |
| lunatic | like profile folders? ok got it | 01:03 |
| lunatic | and then get firefox 3.5? | 01:03 |
| asac | lunatic: well. most of those solutions are liek: "you need to run as root" ... you need to remove your profile from time to time ... you need to do x y z ... or something other ugly | 01:03 |
| asac | lunatic: yes. and if you ran it as root you might have now root only files in your profile | 01:04 |
| lunatic | asac i did notice that^^ | 01:04 |
| asac | so you really should first cleanup all the stuff | 01:04 |
| asac | e.g. remove package | 01:04 |
| asac | check that there is nothing left in /usr/lib/ etc. | 01:04 |
| asac | that is remotely related | 01:04 |
| asac | to swiftfox | 01:04 |
| asac | maybe check if there is something still in /usr/lib/swiftfox after removing | 01:04 |
| asac | then fix your profile | 01:05 |
| asac | chown USERNAME -R /path/to/profile | 01:05 |
| asac | and hope for the bets | 01:05 |
| asac | best | 01:05 |
| asac | next time when it doesnt start | 01:05 |
| asac | dont try as root | 01:05 |
| asac | ;) | 01:05 |
| asac | rather try disabling extensions etc | 01:05 |
| asac | first | 01:05 |
| asac | there is almost no way running mozilla as root will help ;) | 01:06 |
| asac | it will only cause more pain | 01:06 |
| asac | lunatic: if you hard core you can use things like strace -eopen -f firefox ... and check what files it cannot open etc. | 01:06 |
| asac | though it needs a trained eye to spot that among all the crap that comes out there ;) | 01:07 |
| asac | hmm. did that sound like harsh words or why did he skip ;) | 01:09 |
| asac | night | 01:10 |
| lunatic | yay i got kicked out of my session) | 01:11 |
| lunatic | okay i have --purge removed swiftfox, the SF dir in /usr/lib got deleted. | 01:14 |
| fta | asac, i knew there was something weird with tb3... debian/tmp/usr/lib/thunderbird-3.1a1pre it's no longer 3.0 | 01:53 |
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| asac | fta: oh. so they made a final branch now? | 12:13 |
| av` | asac, you should receive a mail about http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=552185 | 12:17 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 552185 in gnome-bluetooth "[gnome-bluetooth] read/write access to the /dev/rfkill device is" [Minor,Open] | 12:17 |
| asac | av`: are you gnome-bluetooth in debian? | 12:26 |
| asac | av`: you need to add a udev rule | 12:26 |
| asac | for now | 12:26 |
| asac | thats what we did in ubuntu | 12:27 |
| av` | asac, yes, I follow gnome-bluetooth for debian | 12:27 |
| av` | asac, did you read that bug report? | 12:27 |
| asac | its kind of a temporary solution | 12:27 |
| asac | thats why putting it in gnome-bluetooth is right | 12:27 |
| av` | would you mind writing a rationale for adding it now? | 12:27 |
| asac | in the end it should be wrapped in bluez api | 12:27 |
| av` | in the bug report of course | 12:28 |
| asac | the rational for adding it now is that otherwise nothing will work ;) | 12:28 |
| asac | at least not really nice | 12:29 |
| asac | ly | 12:29 |
| asac | i am running ... you can paste what i wrote here or i will answer when back later today | 12:29 |
| asac | ttyl | 12:29 |
| av` | ok, cya later | 12:29 |
| fta | hi | 13:49 |
| fta | asac, no, i didn't | 13:49 |
| fta | mozilla 46625 | 14:41 |
| ubottu | Mozilla bug 46625 in Layout "<HR> tag overlaps left aligned images" [Normal,Verified: duplicate] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46625 | 14:41 |
| fta | mozilla 466250 | 14:41 |
| ubottu | Mozilla bug 466250 in Graphics "build failure for cairo-gtk2 build with a directfb cairo" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=466250 | 14:41 |
| fta | asac, http://paste.ubuntu.com/300578/ | 14:44 |
| fta | asac, i've created a branch for tb 3.1 following comm-central, i based it on mozilla-central as obviously, it's what upstream wants | 15:25 |
| fta | i've updated tb 3.0 to follow comm-1.9.1, based on mozilla-1.9.1 | 15:26 |
| fta | i won't add 3.1 to my bot until we've reorganized the daily PPAs | 15:30 |
| * eagles0513875 waves to fta and asac and anyone else in here | 16:14 | |
| fta | dtchen, i think my problem with openarena is that it takes nearly all the cpu on my 2 cores, like 180% cpu, and p-a fights for the rest | 17:28 |
| dtchen | fta: yes, it's a SDL issue | 17:28 |
| dtchen | an SDL* | 17:28 |
| dtchen | it's on my queue for today | 17:29 |
| fta | ohoh, nice | 17:29 |
| fta | is stardict installable? for me, it has been unupgradeable for months :( | 18:05 |
| fta | oh, nm. i remember now. scrollkeeper vs rarian-compat | 18:07 |
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| dtchen | fta: these SDL changes to PulseAudio themselves are _huge_ | 21:32 |
| dtchen | fta: I haven't even started looking at the ALSA ones, though I expect them to be less invasive | 21:32 |
| dtchen | fta: Karmic's SDL driver for Pulse is horridly outdated | 21:33 |
| fta | dtchen, i have no doubts about that. let me know if you want me to try something | 21:33 |
| dtchen | fta: I'm afraid it will take more than 24 hours just to review the code changes | 21:34 |
| dtchen | fta: ...yeah, this stuff isn't going into karmic-updates at all. It'll be much better in lucid. | 22:01 |
| BUGabundo | eeh | 22:01 |
| BUGabundo | it will always be much better :) | 22:01 |
| dtchen | fta: I should have something in the ubuntu-audio-dev soon after, if not by, karmic's release. | 22:02 |
| dtchen | the 100% cpu usage is caused by both the pulse output plugin and SDL spinning in their respective loops | 22:02 |
| dtchen | twice the work for the fail | 22:02 |
| dtchen | and on top of that, it's not even progress; it's just busy spinning doing nothing | 22:03 |
| fta | dtchen, that explains a lot.. | 22:04 |
| dtchen | ...and the alsa output plugin just does buffering all wrong | 22:06 |
| dtchen | it looks like I need to keep an eye on libSDL, too :/ | 22:07 |
| BUGabundo | dtchen: thanks for the note. I'm realying it to joaopinto who is also suffenring from it | 22:11 |
| fta | it will probably help with vbox too | 22:12 |
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