[03:55] <McNever> hey guys... i've got a little front end problem i believe... had some issues and ended up having to reinstall myth... after reinstall i dont have audio on any analog channels... i've got an hvr-1600 so its a diff. tuner but if i download the video from mythweb it has audio
[05:31] <McNever> wow... nobody home...
[07:30] <oobe> McNever, go to setup / utils / general page 2 or 3 then try disabled ac3 passthrough
[07:30] <oobe> only 3 hrs later :P
[07:52] <ripperda> hi, I'm trying to change some keybindings on my frontend via mythweb, but they don't seem to be taking effect (even after restarting the frontend and rebooting)
[14:37] <jeffjeffdejeff> hi all.  having some problems after d/loading and installing updates yesterday.  running myth 9.04 with a hauppauge td500 card with latest firmware.  can't seem to get my ir device listed when i do cat /proc/bus/input/devices.  any suggestions as what to do?  i have the latest v4l drivers.
[15:16] <ripperda> hi, I'm having some trouble editing some key bindings
[15:16] <ripperda> for some reason, key strokes that xev and xbindkeys sees, mythtv doesn't appear to be seeing
[15:17] <jeffjeffdejeff> good luck ripperda.  i've been waiting for 30 mins. :)
[15:17] <ripperda> heh, might be too early in the morning for help
[15:18] <jeffjeffdejeff> its 1517 here. :)
[15:18] <ripperda> ah, it's 9:17 on a saturday morning here :)
[15:18] <jeffjeffdejeff> really wish i knew what i was doing with linux and how it worked in more detail.  my problem's really annoying me
[15:19] <ripperda> what updates did you do? if the device isn't showing up in /proc/bus/..., it sounds like a kernel module problem
[15:22] <jeffjeffdejeff> just updates that came through update manager.  one of them was kernel update to 2.6.28.16
[15:24] <ripperda> so the most likely thing is that the kernel module for the ir device isn't being loaded: either it's trying to and failing or the config changed and it's not even trying
[15:24] <ripperda> (note: I know quite a bit about linux, but don't have a lot of experience with IR devices in particular)
[15:25] <ripperda> the kernel has to recognize the device to show it in /proc/bus/..., which is usually handled by a device driver
[15:25] <ripperda> I would normally check the output of dmesg and look for a failure, but since I don't know the IR driver, I can't tell you what text string to look for
[15:26] <jeffjeffdejeff> there is no "IR-receiver inside an USB DVB receiver " when i do dmesg
[15:28] <jeffjeffdejeff> oh hang on.  selected previous kernel through grub and now it shows in dmesg.
[15:29] <ripperda> you might try doing an "lsmod > kernel_modules" with the working kernel, then try with the failing kernel to identify which module isn't being loaded
[15:29] <ripperda> looking at the web pages, maybe it's dvd_usb?
[15:30] <jeffjeffdejeff> ok.  have now got remote registering with previous kernel.  showing outputs when i do irw
[15:33] <jeffjeffdejeff> do you know how to make grub load the previous kernel as default in menu.lst?
[15:33] <ripperda> just a sec
[15:35] <ripperda> I think grub by default will select the first kernel listed. otherwise, there's usually a command that selects the first kernel
[15:35] <ripperda> it's been a while and my menu.lst has a lot of unhelpful comments
[15:36] <ripperda> you can try manually reordering the kernels in the file (of course, keep the "block" of commands together (like "title" "root" "kernel" etc) when you reorder kernels
[15:36] <ripperda> if there's an actual command to specific which is first, it would use the text in the kernel's "title" line as the identifier
[15:37] <ripperda> hmm, actually it looks like the command "default" will select the kernel numerically
[15:37] <ripperda> ## default num
[15:37] <ripperda> # Set the default entry to the entry number NUM. Numbering starts from 0, and
[15:37] <ripperda> # the entry number 0 is the default if the command is not used.
[15:37] <ripperda> default         0
[15:38] <jeffjeffdejeff> have commented out the newest kernel details.  will try that
[15:40] <jeffjeffdejeff> hey, i appreciate your help by the way. :)
[15:41] <ripperda> no problem, good luck
[16:36] <XiXaQ> I have an analog tv tuner card. It works very well with tvtime, and using cd-rom input for volume control. I have a 2.9GHz Pentium 4 with 2GB RAM. That should suffice to use it as a backend, right? As long as there is v4l drivers, it should work with myth?
[16:36] <XiXaQ> and should I be able to use it as a frontend on the same machine? I also have a laptop which I'd like to use to watch and control the backend. Does it require major setups, or can I have it as a normal application in the normal ubuntu setup without changing much?
[16:42] <mrand> frontend install on a normal ubuntu setup should work fine.  I would think that a 3 GHz P4 should be fine for analog standard def playback.
[16:43] <XiXaQ> backend is heavier than the frontend?
[16:44] <mrand> not really.  backend is slightly more disk heavy.  Frontend can be more display heavy, depending on machine and what you're trying to play back.
[16:45] <mrand> errr... front end can be more decoding heavy.
[16:49] <XiXaQ> oh. But the backend has to encode the video on the fly, right?
[16:55] <carpenike> Hi all. I'm trying to boot the latest RC via netboot as it doesn't detect my CDRom drive during boot; is this possible? Didn't see a netboot image on the CD.
[16:58] <mrand> XiXaQ: hopefully your analog tuner encodes it.  If not, then yes, it would need to.  My pure guess is that 3 GHz P4 could keep up.
[16:59] <XiXaQ> I doubt it does. It's rather old.
[17:01] <mrand> carpenike: sorry, I don't know.  Might try Ubuntu forums, otherwise hopefully someone else will come along here and know.
[17:13] <ripperda> anyone familiar with key bindings and mythtv?
[17:26] <carpenike> ok np.
[17:26] <carpenike> mrand: Going to tru using this Ultimate Deployment Appliance
[17:27] <carpenike> going to try*
[18:13] <carpenike> Is there anyway to install mythbuntu without a CDRom drive and a PC that doesn't recognize USB sticks as bootable mediums?
[18:15] <mrand> Without a CD drive and without USB option pretty much just leaves netboot I'm afraid.  I'm not specifically aware that doesn't work.
[18:15] <mrand> Or else move a hard drive or cd-rom drive between computers
[18:16] <carpenike> yeah.... mythbuntu doesn't have a netboot image
[18:16] <carpenike> I guess I could install ubuntu via netboot and then install mythbuntu on top.
[18:17] <carpenike> any reason I shouldn't do that?
[18:19] <mrand> Should work just fine.  We've had a few isolated cases of gnome not playing nicely because of sound, but it's definitely worth a try!
[18:21] <carpenike> ok cool. Any reason there's not the netboot image included with mythbuntu?
[18:24] <ToeBee> hmm is serial console still pretty much the only way to diagnose a kernel panic?
[18:34] <mrand> carpenike: not sure.  I assume that you can install mythbuntu or standard ubuntu then add the  mythbuntu-diskless-server-standalone package
[18:36] <mrand> ToeBee : I'd go with whatever ubuntu forums or google finds for you.
[18:40] <ToeBee> playing audiosurf in wine seems to be occasianlly locking my mythbuntu system up but the nearest serial port to the mythbox is 30 feet away. Laptop only has USB
[18:41] <ToeBee> could probably use a usb to serial dongle on the lpaotp I guess
[18:54] <mrand> Until you try it, don't know how well that would work.  USB serial is real hit and miss
[18:55] <mrand> Then add kernel panic on top of that (where the USB drivers are)
[18:58] <ToeBee> well the mythbox has a serial port
[18:58] <ToeBee> but I need something on the other end to read and capture the output
[19:02] <ToeBee> hmm or get two of those serial to RJ45 adapters. I have a spare ethernet cable that would reach back to my other computers
[19:03] <mrand> oh, I misunderstood.  In that case you're putting usb serial on the other computer - that should work.
[19:09] <ToeBee> bah! there it went again. Guess it's time for a trip to radioshack
[19:10] <XiXaQ> oh, I'm excited to try out mythbuntu. I tried to install myth in the normal ubuntu once, but had no luck. I hope this is a bit easier.
[19:10] <XiXaQ> only 6 hours to go! :)
[19:11] <XiXaQ> think I have to reboot my mobile.
[19:12] <XiXaQ> hmm. No, seems good. Can the archive really be that slow?
[19:12] <ToeBee> I just did updates. It was going kinda slow for those
[19:44] <Egghead> in karmic beta, lirc doesnt wanna make a /var/run/lirc folder, does anyone know if this is a bug?
[19:57] <ToeBee> seems like that should be created during install
[20:05] <Egghead> toebee, yea i would think so too, when i make the directory and run lircd all is working, after reboot the directory is gone again
[21:07] <mrand> Egghead: I haven't heard of anyone else having that problem, but karmic rc shipped with a new lirc, so maybe there hasn't been enough time yet.  If you can't figure it out (or maybe even if you can, but it is something that needs to be fixed at the distro level so others can take advantage of it), please file a bug on launchpad.
[21:28] <ToeBee> hmm I think the lirc init.d script needs to have a pause added to it when doing a restart
[21:29] <ToeBee> most of the time when I do /etc/init.d/lirc restart it shuts down but fails to come back. If I run /etc/init.d/lirc start right after that it comes back fine
[21:33] <ToeBee> yeah adding "sleep 1" between the stop and the start makes it work every time
[22:04] <Seeker`> hmm, is there a way of making SD sources play back with overscan an HD sources not?
[22:35] <Mouser25> I have a micro ITX computer with a GMA45 x4500HD graphics integrated hooked up to my tv but xrandr detects my tv incorrectly and I cant seem to figure out the correct cvt setting to manualy configure my screen
[23:49] <hipitihop> to log a mythbackend crash report do I use aaport ?