[01:06] <clusty> i was wondering if somebody could suggets some tool to mass download all fine from a http server (disregarding apache dir showing links)
[01:06] <clusty> like reordering ...
[01:15] <chomwitt_> what's the shortest routr in order to manage user accounts centrally  in a server in a lan ?
[01:21] <russlar> chomwitt_: besides active directory?
[01:22] <russlar> chomwitt_: you can use ldap
[01:25] <chomwitt_> russlar: is there a tutorial?
[01:25] <russlar> chomwitt_: there's google
[01:25] <chomwitt_> russlar: for ldpa
[01:25] <russlar> !ldap
[01:26] <chomwitt_> ok thanks!
[01:26] <russlar> and there's ubottu, aparently
[01:28]  * russlar petts ubottu
[01:28] <chomwitt_> !ubottu
[01:55] <mathiaz> zul: right - may be related to NM
[01:55] <mathiaz> zul: may be if the network interface is down
[01:55] <zul> yeah it might
[01:55] <mathiaz> zul: however mysql is supposed to bind to lo
[01:56] <zul> it might be upstart as well
[01:56] <mathiaz> zul: and loopback is not supposed to be handle by NM
[02:01] <stimble> does ubuntu have somethign similar to kickstart?
[02:06] <mathiaz> stimble: yes - there is a kickstart implementation for ubuntu - kickseed
[02:07] <mathiaz> stimble: otherwise there is the preseed option
[02:07] <mathiaz> stimble: https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/installation-guide/index.html
[02:14] <stimble> cool, thx mathiaz
[03:21] <smackdaddy> when i load my site with apache2.. it wont display my images... any ideas?
[03:42] <arrrghhh> does anyone use mpd on their servers?
[03:50] <poningru> arrrghhh, yes
[03:50] <poningru> in a vm
[03:50] <poningru> with data mounted through sshfs
[06:23] <StrangeCharm> if i want to install karmic server, is there any benefit in downloading a dvd rather than a cd?
[06:32] <jmarsden> StrangeCharm: Only if you will be installing it away from a fast Internet connection and will need packages that are on the DVD but not on the CD.
[06:45] <StrangeCharm> jmarsden, so the server version can be installed from the generic dvd?
[06:46] <jmarsden> No, you'd want a server DVD for that -- different kernel
[06:48] <StrangeCharm> jmarsden, do you know where the server rc dvd is on the site? i'm having some trouble finding it in the directory structure.
[06:49] <jmarsden> I don't even know if there is one... your question implied there was... let me look.  I use the CD iso images for server installs myself.
[06:50] <StrangeCharm> jmarsden, i just don't own writable cds: only dvds. i figure that, it i'm going to use a dvd disk, i might as well give it 4.5gb of content
[06:50] <jmarsden> Seems pointless downloading extra stuff you won't need to use :)  I don't see a server DVD image out there...
[06:51] <jmarsden> BTW for stuff like this a few CD-RWs or DVD-RWs are nice to use, because you can re-use them when the rc is no longer useful... i.e. in a few days when the real thing comes out :)
[06:51] <StrangeCharm> i would conversely suggest that, since bits are cheap, and disks are noncheap, i maximise efficiency with a dvd image
[06:52] <StrangeCharm> sadly, i am not the one who controls which disks i have available, which does end up with a bunch of old leftovers, and some waste
[06:59] <jmarsden> StrangeCharm: OK.  My time waiting for downloading and burning an extra 4 GB is probably worth more to me than the few cents a DVD-R costs (what are they, US$0.17 each or so?); but I recently grabbed a pack of 10 DVD-RWs just for stuff like this so even those few cents don't get spent now :)  And for testing, you can avoid optical media completely and download to hard disk and then run a test install in a virtual mac
[06:59] <jmarsden> hine (using KVM or VirtualBox or whatever you prefer)... no optical media needed, very ecologically sound :) :)
[10:21] <Sinkro63> Hi. Which FTP do You recommend to install?
[14:10] <skuld> can any body help me get postfix working?
[15:46] <skuld> I need help with postfix please.  I'm trying to use SASL authentication, I'm getting a bunch of errors in my log file....posting a snippiti....
[15:49] <skuld> http://pastebin.com/f68822
[15:50] <skuld> postfix configuration:  http://pastebin.com/f687e7ef4
[15:51] <skuld> I'm trying to use postfix (with dovecot later for that) and mysql user database.  SASL authentication to stop open relay.
[15:51] <skuld> I can send meail if I use telnet though.
[15:51] <skuld> email
[16:05] <foxbuntu> skuld, while I am unable to directly help, I suggest you checkout this channel: #postfix
[16:07] <lamont> and generally, for bolting large things (like sasl and sql databases) onto postfix, getting it to work with postfix not-chrooted is the first step
[16:25] <JanC> lamont: and AFAIK postfix is protected by AppArmor in Ubuntu, so a chroot is less important?
[16:51] <lamont> JanC: apparmor is a nice security blanket.  so is a chroot.
[17:18] <Noah0504> Not sure if I should talk about Karmic here, but as anyone else had trouble getting Grub 2 to install on a RAID setup?
[17:18] <Noah0504> It won't do it at all.
[17:18] <Noah0504> Kind of stumped.
[17:21] <JanC> what sort of RAID?
[17:22] <Noah0504> Well, in the past I had 4 HDDs partitioned into two.  I would mirror the first partitions and then RAID 5 the last ones... Then make the RAID 1 /boot and the RAID 5 LVM and /
[17:22] <Noah0504> That would work fine in 9.04.
[17:22] <Noah0504> Not so much now.
[17:22] <Noah0504> Then I thought I would try just 1 RAID 5 array...
[17:22] <Noah0504> No luck either.
[17:23] <JanC> /boot on RAID 1 should work, as long as GRUB2 is installed on the right disk (or on all the disks)
[17:24] <Noah0504> JanC: Can I hope the the installer will does this by default?
[17:24] <JanC> no idea
[17:25] <Noah0504> Ha.
[17:25] <Noah0504> Well, I just ask because everything just seemed to work on 9.04, but can't get it figured out on 9.10.  Haha.  I can always go back, but I like newer things.
[17:25]  * Noah0504 sighs.
[17:27] <JanC> Noah0504: might be useful to check it instals on the right disk and/or manually install grub on all the disks
[17:28] <JanC> it's not impossible that the drives are enumerated in a different order when booting from CD (or the network, or whatever)
[17:29] <Noah0504> Hmm...
[17:29] <JanC> also, GRUB2 should allow you to boot anyway, it has a much more extensive shell environment than GRUB1
[17:30] <Noah0504> Well, it tells me the installation fails in general.
[17:30] <Noah0504> So, I don't know if it is making it that far.
[17:30] <JanC> if installation fails, that's something entirely different  ;)
[17:31] <Noah0504> Haha.
[17:31] <JanC> http://grub.enbug.org/FrontPage has most of the information about GRUB2
[17:32] <Noah0504> Yeah, it's always frustrating trying to get over a new problem.  I just set up my partitions again... with the flags all set... I'm going to give it one more shot!
[17:32] <Noah0504> :P
[17:32] <Noah0504> If I can't figure it out now, I will just go back to 9.04 for the time being until I can mess around with it some more in a test environment.  Maybe that's part of my lesson learned.
[17:32] <Noah0504> :)
[17:57] <embrik> I've installed ubuntu hardy server and dhcpserver and arno-iptables-firewall. The clients get ip-addresse and can log on to nx on the server. But they can't connect to the internet. The server connects to the internet via eth0, gives away ip-addresses on eth1. Can anyone give me a hint?
[18:00] <embrik> can anyone help me getting my client on the internet? I get ip from the server, the server connects to the internet with eth0
[18:01] <embrik> my server is ubuntu hardy
[18:22] <embrik> hmm.. are you all busy or am I alone in here? Is it too early maybe? Should I be back in some hours?
[18:23] <embrik> can anyone explain to me what this message in syslog means: Connection attempt (PRIV): IN=eth0 OUT= MAC= SRC=89.11.135.7 DST=89.11.135.255
[18:38] <Noah0504> JanC: Still there?
[18:39] <JanC> Noah0504: sometimes  ;)
[18:40] <Noah0504> So, I am still having problems.  The installer will not install GRUB on /dev/md0, which is my RAID1.
[18:40] <Noah0504> And when just trying to install it on sda2 (the actual partition), it fails as well.
[18:50] <skuld> Does anybody in here have experiance with Postfix?
[18:53] <embrik> can anyone help me getting my clients on the internet? The server (ubuntu hardy) is set up as a dhcp-server and gives out ip on eth1. It connects to the internet on eth0.
[18:53] <Noah0504> Bah!  I finally got it.
[18:54] <embrik> Or show me a howto - I've been googling some time now, ,and can't figure out what I am doing wrong. The client can't ping anything else than the server
[19:00] <blue-frog> embrik: is the dhcp server giving the gateway?
[19:06] <embrik> blue-frog, I'm not sure. I haven't anything about the gateway in dhcpd.conf. How should it give away the gateway?
[19:09] <blue-frog> embrik: option routers
[19:10] <embrik> blue-frog, option routers 192.168.1.1
[19:10] <blue-frog> if it is your gateway to the world yes.  Missing ; at the en dthough...
[19:12] <embrik> blue-frog, but what is my gateway? eth0 (the dhcp-nic LAN is 192.168.1.5) Eth0 to the internet gets ip from my ISP
[19:12] <embrik> sorry first eth1 and then eth0
[19:12] <embrik> eth1 is 192.168.1.5
[19:13] <blue-frog> embrik: on your server    netstat -rn
[19:15] <blue-frog> embrik: in your config i wouls say 1.5 is the gateway
[19:16] <embrik> blue-frog, how can I show you output from netstat -rn?
[19:16] <blue-frog> pastebin.com
[19:17] <embrik> blue-frog, http://pastebin.com/d7ec0f1a5
[19:17] <embrik> blue-frog
[19:19] <blue-frog> option routers 192.168.1.5;     restart dhcpd and try
[19:20] <embrik> blue-frog, ok
[19:24] <embrik> blue-frog, error when I try to restart dhcp-server. Here-s output fron netstat on client: http://pastebin.com/m74a1c51a
[19:24] <|preTnLvr4f|> is there a way I can see what services are running (I just rebooted my server and want some confirmations)
[19:25] <blue-frog> pretn ps -ef
[21:31] <blue-frog> embrik: still fighting with dhcp?
[21:53] <embrik> some application is writing to my resol.conf. could it be networmamager?
[21:56] <embrik> is it safe to remove networkmanager on my ubuntu server. I have set up my nics in network/inerfaces
[21:59] <blue-frog> embrik: from a client can you ping your server eth0?
[21:59] <embrik> blue-frog, yes
[21:59] <blue-frog> ok can you ping from a client 4.2.2.2
[22:00] <embrik> blue-frog, Well, yes - There is a problem in resolv.conf I think. New lines are added without me doing it
[22:01] <embrik> blue-frog, but yes I can ping external ip from the client - but not hostnames
[22:01] <blue-frog> embrik: so when you were saying you can't ping anything on the internet you were trying to say you were not resolving anything in fact
[22:02] <blue-frog> should you have started with that it would have speed up the processe...
[22:02] <embrik> blue-frog, no, when I said that I couldn't ping anything I couldn't
[22:02] <blue-frog> ok
[22:02] <blue-frog> what's the resolv.conf of your client?
[22:03] <embrik> it has got the wrong (old) ip adresses for the dns. I don't know why. Whenj I fill in the rioght ones everything works for a while
[22:04] <blue-frog> dhcpd.conf      option domain-name-servers
[22:04] <embrik> ok
[22:05] <embrik> the line domain-name-servers is commented out
[22:06] <embrik> should that refer to the dns server fro my isp?
[22:06] <blue-frog> you have another dns server?
[22:06] <embrik> no
[22:06] <blue-frog> so?
[22:08] <embrik> blue-frog, there are two addresses. Can I write them like this? option domain-name-servers 217.13.4.21 217.13.7.136;
[22:10] <blue-frog> 217.13.4.21, 217.13.7.136;
[22:10] <embrik> ok
[22:10] <blue-frog> one dns is enough anyway
[22:12] <embrik> ok, what about ntp-servers and netbios-name-servers and netbios-node-type? Shal I just ignore them? I don't know what they do.
[22:16] <embrik> blue-frog, thanks a lot. I know how it is to give support to someone who doesn't understand more than half of it. I do it everyday at work. I really appreciate it.