[00:07] <knome> jarmenda, sorry, i lost myself in the world of internet
[00:07] <jarmenda> LOL it's Friday too (at least where I'm sitting)
[00:07] <knome> jarmenda, what does 'sudo apt-get check' say now?
[00:07] <knome> it's been saturday a bit over 2 hours here already
[00:08] <jarmenda> E: The package adobe-flashplugin needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[00:08] <knome> right.
[00:08] <knome> jarmenda, and you did 'sudo apt-get remove --purge adobe-flashplugin' ?
[00:08] <jarmenda> Did that as well but I will give it a go once more
[00:08] <knome> what did that say then?
[00:09] <jarmenda> Same exact error message
[00:09] <knome> hmm
[00:09] <knome> okay, just a minute
[00:10] <jarmenda> when I just did the apt-get remove...
[00:10] <knome> yep
[00:12] <knome> jarmenda, there seems to be a thread about you problem in the ubuntu forums (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8152309) solved a week ago
[00:12] <knome> jarmenda, search for message #8 or browse to http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=8086156&postcount=8 without all the messages
[00:13] <jarmenda> Gonna check it out.
[00:14] <knome> let me know if it worked out
[00:21] <jarmenda> it'll be a min as I have to install gedit
[00:22] <knome> you can use mousepad also
[00:22] <knome> it's just basic text editor stuff
[00:29] <jarmenda> Well now
[00:29] <jarmenda> Looks like that did it
[00:29] <knome> good to hear
[00:29] <jarmenda> admittingly I didn't make a backup of the ststus file but then again I'm used to doing that with the Windows registry
[00:29] <jarmenda> bad habit I know
[00:30] <jarmenda> domo arigato!
[00:30] <knome> o.O?
[00:30] <jarmenda> Japanese for thank you
[00:30] <knome> ah, you're welcome.
[00:30] <jarmenda> have a good one
[03:25] <only1rockn1> i need help configuring a marvell wireless card in a emachine celerond 512 ram 1044 swap 80 gig hd
[03:25] <only1rockn1> it wont see it
[03:25] <only1rockn1> under xubuntu but it found it under freespire
[03:26] <only1rockn1> any ideas please
[03:27] <_Techie_> good luck finding marvell wireless chipset drivers for linux (last time i checked, they dont exist)
[03:28] <_Techie_> however you can always use the windows drivers via ndiswrapper
[03:29] <only1rockn1> how did freespire find it and let it work
[03:30] <_Techie_> im not sure
[03:31] <only1rockn1> so how do i get the latest wine
[03:32] <only1rockn1> i am going to need it right
[03:32] <likemindead> !ndiswrapper
[03:56] <IcedTeaMan> Alright.
[03:56] <IcedTeaMan> I need some help...
[03:56] <_Techie_> !ask
[03:56] <IcedTeaMan> with this...
[03:56] <IcedTeaMan> disk.
[03:57] <IcedTeaMan> I need to make it bootable. This program is really confusing though.
[03:57] <IcedTeaMan> Help, anyone?
[03:58] <IcedTeaMan> Please.
[03:58] <_Techie_> what program are you currently using?
[03:58] <IcedTeaMan> CD Burner XP Pro.
[03:58] <IcedTeaMan> Something like that.
[03:58] <_Techie_> are you burning a bootable ISO?
[03:58] <IcedTeaMan> Yes.
[03:58] <IcedTeaMan> On a CD.
[03:59] <_Techie_> if you want to use windows to do this i reccomend imgburn, as the inbuilt cd burner software in windows isnt very powerful
[03:59] <IcedTeaMan> It's not the inbuilt one.
[03:59] <IcedTeaMan> It's just something calling itself "XP".
[04:00] <IcedTeaMan> I only have Windows and 5 gigs of SuSe Linux.
[04:00] <IcedTeaMan> Which is pretty useless by itself.
[04:00] <IcedTeaMan> It's asking me about emulation type.
[04:01] <_Techie_> well if you want to burn it in linux brasero should work peice of cake, in windows imgburn
[04:01] <IcedTeaMan> Alright.
[04:01] <_Techie_> neither will require you to change any settings other than burn speed if you wish
[04:01] <IcedTeaMan> Hmm.
[04:01] <IcedTeaMan> Sounds good.
[04:01] <IcedTeaMan> Thanks.
[04:01] <_Techie_> no problem
[04:12] <likemindead> Use the program Ubuntu recommends, Infrarecorder.
[04:51] <visitor1> hi _Techie_ , thanks for yesterdays help, sudo apt-get remove xfce4-session && sudo apt-get install xfce4-session, did work fabously
[04:54] <_Techie_> visitor1, glad i could help
[12:05] <cwickert> where can I download the rc? http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/9.10/rc/ only lists the alternate, but not the desktop cd
[12:06] <_Techie_> karmic is set to be released on the 29th, why not just wait it out?
[12:08] <cwickert> _Techie_: because I want to try the rc, not the final
[12:09] <cwickert> meanwhile I found a mirror with the desktop image
[12:11] <_Techie_> well im gonna go to sleep
[12:11] <_Techie_> Night all
[12:53] <St0n3-C0l> Anyone uses Hamster here?
[12:54] <knome> we don't interfere with animal here;P
[12:55] <St0n3-C0l> LOL
[12:55] <St0n3-C0l> Hamster - Time Tracker :D
[12:56] <St0n3-C0l> works with GNOME though but not quite sure whether it works on XFCE or not and that too the XFCE version on Hardy
[12:56] <St0n3-C0l> :D
[12:56] <knome> should work
[12:56] <knome> have you had problems?
[12:56] <St0n3-C0l> I am going to go for Xubuntu Hardy
[12:56] <St0n3-C0l> at the moment :)
[12:56] <St0n3-C0l> No heard it few days back and on Ubuntu 9.04, it worked well
[12:57] <knome> hardy is old ;)
[12:57] <St0n3-C0l> I know but
[12:57] <St0n3-C0l> still supported
[12:57] <St0n3-C0l> :)
[12:57] <knome> sure
[12:57] <St0n3-C0l> And I've reason to go on it apart from the codecs problem :(
[12:57] <St0n3-C0l> I have to recompile everything for Hardy then.
[12:57] <knome> my eeepc is the only machine still running jaunty, the rest are karmic
[12:57] <St0n3-C0l> lol
[12:58] <St0n3-C0l> I've got Intel dude
[12:58] <St0n3-C0l> intel video :)
[12:58] <St0n3-C0l> The major reason for going back, otherwise love Jaunty as the memory footprint is quite low
[12:58] <St0n3-C0l> though I use Linux Mint series ;)
[12:58] <knome> okay
[13:01] <St0n3-C0l> And we can upgrade XFCE's own version right in it?
[13:01] <knome> hmm?
[13:01] <St0n3-C0l> I mean
[13:01] <St0n3-C0l> Upgrade to 4.6.1
[13:01] <St0n3-C0l> :)
[13:01] <knome> in hardy?
[13:02] <St0n3-C0l> there were some PPAs I found
[13:02] <St0n3-C0l> Yes
[13:02] <knome> if the ppa's work, go ahead;)
[13:02] <St0n3-C0l> and did that long time back. Was quite good but as the integration in the old LM and Ubuntu wasn't quite there as now, so thats what stopping me to D/Ling LM
[13:04] <St0n3-C0l> anyways thanks dude
[13:04] <St0n3-C0l> :)
[13:04] <knome> np
[13:04] <St0n3-C0l> I can guarantee the work on those PPAs because I think they were by the XFCE developers themselves
[13:05] <knome> yeah, that's possible
[13:05] <St0n3-C0l> So will finally settle on Hardy again LOL
[13:06] <knome> ;)
[13:07] <St0n3-C0l> Lets just hope the compilation of codecs goes well, thats only one big PAIN otherwise all is well for me.
[13:07] <knome> yeah
[13:07] <knome> good luck
[13:07] <St0n3-C0l> Thanks :)
[13:07] <St0n3-C0l> Will try to be regular in here :)
[13:08] <knome> hehe, great
[13:08] <knome> i think i am already way *too* regular
[13:11] <St0n3-C0l1> Thanks for the support knome :)
[13:11] <St0n3-C0l1> bye take care buddy.
[13:12] <knome> you too
[13:35] <goldmanru> Hi to everybody!:)
[13:37] <knome> !hi | goldmanru
[13:38] <goldmanru> It's pretty quiet here...:)
[13:38] <knome> yep. nice and comfortable idling.
[13:39] <knome> any way, feel free to make some noise
[13:42] <goldmanru> :)
[13:43] <goldmanru> Well, in fact I;m really a beginner is matters of both IRC and Xubuntu...
[13:44] <goldmanru> Do you guys all use latest release of Xubuntu?
[13:45] <knome> it varies
[13:45] <goldmanru> It's just that I have problems with it...so would you please point me in the right direction for Xubuntu related solution
[13:46] <knome> goldmanru, are you talking about 9.04 or 9.10?
[13:47] <goldmanru> :) things get worse since i use Xubuntu on IBM laptop. I was talking about latest stable release 9.04...sorry for being unclear
[13:47] <knome> ok, so what's the problem
[13:48] <goldmanru> It's mostly related to the sound chip I have Cirrus Logic...
[13:49] <knome> okay
[13:49] <goldmanru> And since I've never tried any of the distros before it's so frustrating for me...
[13:50] <goldmanru> I don't even know how to install drivers here...:)
[13:50] <goldmanru> Though i managed to get my video working correctly, thanks to a faq i found on the net
[13:51] <knome> so, do yo have sound at all
[13:51] <goldmanru> But not a word about audio...it just seems that I'm the only one who have this problem
[13:51] <goldmanru> Well I sure have chip, but my laptop is deadly silent:-D
[13:52] <knome> okay
[13:52] <goldmanru> IBM T22 CS4625b/4297A
[13:52] <goldmanru> I dont even know how to define which chip i have onboard
[13:53] <goldmanru> I hope I'm not too daft for this :)
[13:53] <knome> lshw
[13:54] <knome> has your audio worked before on ubuntu?
[13:55] <goldmanru> Now I have OSS mixer and ALSA mixer installed at the same time. I dont even know whether it is right or not. And I'm sure that sound is not mute, but still when i try to play audio - it silent
[13:56] <goldmanru> sorry...a sec
[13:56] <goldmanru> should I do "sudo" before this?
[13:58] <goldmanru> ok, I did lshw and I see a list of something...:-)
[13:58] <knome> http://open.knome.fi/2009/07/05/panels-disappearing-and-other-frequently-asked-questions/ - see the pulseauio stuff from the bottom of the post
[13:58] <goldmanru> ok, opening it...
[14:02] <goldmanru> But...isn't it about pulseaudio....do I have it?
[14:03] <knome> you can run those commands
[14:03] <knome> and then you definitely won't have it
[14:03] <goldmanru> :-D
[14:03] <knome> and then we know it's not about PA
[14:04] <goldmanru> Ok, I'm going  do some cleaning over here...:-D
[14:06] <goldmanru> Oh, It says I don't have -purge package :-(
[14:06] <knome> --purge with two -'s
[14:06] <knome> hmm
[14:06] <knome> i need to fix the post
[14:07] <goldmanru> Package pulseaudio is not installed, so not removed
[14:07] <goldmanru> I guess I don't have it
[14:11] <knome> okay
[14:12] <knome> which media have you tried playing?
[14:12] <goldmanru> Audio CD, a couple of DVD movies
[14:12] <knome> okay
[14:13] <knome> try to play a .wav file
[14:15] <goldmanru> It's playing now
[14:16] <goldmanru> I can see it playing, but I can't hear it:)
[14:18] <knome> okay, just a moment
[14:19] <goldmanru> sure, no problem
[14:21] <knome> have you checked alsamixer?
[14:21] <goldmanru> Well...hard to say
[14:21] <knome> okay, so go to terminal and run 'alsamixer'
[14:21] <goldmanru> How can I do it anyway?
[14:21] <goldmanru> Ok
[14:22] <knome> it's a text-based mixer - let's check everything is okay there
[14:23] <goldmanru> I've tried to raise volume levels everywhere I could...
[14:23] <goldmanru> Some items are off
[14:24] <knome> what are the "card" and "chip" values in alsamixer?
[14:24] <goldmanru> Card: Sound Fusion CS46xx
[14:24] <goldmanru> Chip: Cirrus Logic CS4297A rev 4
[14:25] <knome> okay
[14:25] <goldmanru> :-)
[14:25] <knome> which items are off? is there any bar with "MM" under it?
[14:25] <goldmanru> Yes a few...
[14:25] <knome> also, have you checked that the sound card is enabled in the bios?
[14:26] <goldmanru> I guess so...
[14:26] <knome> you should double check
[14:26] <goldmanru> Can I check it from OS?
[14:27] <knome> no, you have to go to the bios
[14:28] <goldmanru> ok, as you say
[14:28] <goldmanru> gonna reboot
[14:28] <knome> okay:)
[14:36] <goldmanru> Hi, I'm back
[14:36] <knome> welcome back
[14:37] <goldmanru> Well, I haven't found anything that could relate to sound in bios
[14:37] <goldmanru> :-(
[14:37] <knome> okay
[14:38] <knome> so then it's probably enabled
[14:38] <goldmanru> I guess...
[14:38] <knome> goldmanru, have you read through https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting ?
[14:39] <goldmanru> Thanks a lot. I haven't seen it.
[14:40] <knome> no problem. most of the things aren't ubuntu/xubuntu specific, so most of the tutorials for ubuntu are good for xubuntu also
[14:46] <knome> bbl ->
[15:38] <gcrazy> Hi, what's the difference exactly between normal and alternate installer cd isos?
[15:39] <goldmanru1> Hi
[15:39] <gcrazy> Only that the normal runs a graphical installation and alternate runs debian's text based installation?
[15:39] <gcrazy> What I want to know is if that's the only difference
[16:56] <second_nick> hi
[16:57] <second_nick> how can i mount my second drive?
[16:57] <likemindead> One second, Kokos.
[16:57] <likemindead> I know of a good article.
[16:57] <lailapas> 2 commands
[16:58] <likemindead> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/mountlinux
[16:58] <TheSheep> !mount | likemindead
[17:01] <likemindead> Yes, TheSheep, I'm aware of what mount is.
[17:02] <lailapas> its ntfs
[17:02] <likemindead> !ntfs
[17:02] <lailapas> sudo mount /dev/sb1 /sb1 -t ntfs
[17:03] <lailapas> this?
[17:34] <slow-motion> hi
[17:39] <only1rockn1> my wireless card is being ignored by the system
[17:39] <only1rockn1> please help
[17:39] <only1rockn1> any1
[17:40] <Sysi> what's model of that?
[17:44] <only1rockn1>  mavell
[17:44] <only1rockn1> 8300 ver 78
[17:44] <only1rockn1> ver 7
[17:44] <only1rockn1> i had it working in freespire
[17:45] <Sysi> have you googled with "model name + ubuntu"?
[17:46] <Sysi> i'm on very slow internet connection currently
[17:47] <likemindead> Doesn't look good, only1rockn1. I don't think there are good drivers available for Marvell chips.
[17:47] <likemindead> You may be able to use ndiswrapper.
[17:47] <likemindead> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[17:49] <only1rockn1> why did it work in freespire
[17:50] <only1rockn1> freespire 2.08
[17:50] <Sysi> there are drivers
[17:51] <only1rockn1> what is the difference in configuration and it is based off u7buntu
[17:52] <only1rockn1> i gotta deal with the devil to get the driver i guess
[17:52] <only1rockn1> xandros and ms
[17:52] <only1rockn1> or is there another way out
[18:02] <faciar> I'm sure the right ppl know this, but the link to get 9.10rc from 'http://xubuntu.org/news/karmic/beta' is broken. It's supposed to link to 'http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/9.10/rc/' :)
[18:44] <Gratz474> is the rc of ubuntu 9.10 just as stable as the one for regular ubuntu?
[18:45] <likemindead> Xubuntu, you mean? I'd say so. I've been using Xubuntu 9.10 since Alpha 6 with no major issues. Loving it.
[18:45] <Gratz474> I am running standard ubuntu right now just installed maybe 3 days ago
[18:45] <Gratz474> 2 days
[18:45] <Gratz474> but I really do prefer Xfce more then Gnome
[18:46] <Sysi> you can install xfce to that
[18:46] <likemindead> Same here. My laptop is an ancient PIII (700MHz) w/ 1GB DDR.
[18:46] <Gratz474> Sysi, yea but then ......
[18:46] <Gratz474> likemindead, how does it run xfce?
[18:46] <Gratz474> i got 2.6 ghz
[18:46] <Gratz474> I haven't used the new version at all
[18:48] <Gratz474> but ubuntu with compiz is pleasing
[18:48] <Gratz474> I do got a free 4 GB parition you think thats enough? hmm
[18:48] <Gratz474> probably now
[18:48] <Gratz474> not
[18:49] <Gratz474> well for my ubuntu setup only using 2.7 GB's
[18:49] <Gratz474> maybe
[18:53] <likemindead> Yeah, Gratz474, 4GB should be plenty.
[18:53] <likemindead> And my old ghetto PIII is running fantastic.
[18:53] <likemindead> :-)
[18:54] <gcrazy> I know for a fact that Xfce is a great desktop environment. I use it on my own labs, and I've never had a single problem. You want rock solid stability and elite support?, why think it twice?, go Xfce: "The professionals' DE".
[18:54]  * gcrazy sets TV-AD mode off
[18:55] <likemindead> ^____^
[19:09] <Gratz474> gcrazy, lol
[19:09] <Gratz474> gcrazy, now the question is ubuntu a professionals os? heheh (debian_
[19:09] <Gratz474> )
[19:11] <Gratz474> Just kidding i do like the software included with ubuntu / xubuntu in general
[19:12] <Gratz474> likemindead, p3, i dont think I could go there heh
[19:17] <gcrazy> Gratz474, Well I actually said Xfce, not xubuntu
[19:18] <gcrazy> lol
[19:45] <Gratz474> gcrazy, hehehee
[20:15] <hat0> hi all - question about installing the rc.  if i install the rc now, will it be able to update itself to the final release in a week without problems?
[21:28] <frogger> how can i stop the tty terminals from automatically logging me back in after exit
[21:28] <frogger> DO NOT WANT
[21:29] <frogger> i commented out a line in event.d for the ttys but it doesnt seem to take effect
[21:29] <frogger> id rather not reboot
[21:46] <frogger> gnome-screensaver-command -l not locking, tty 1-6 automatically logs me in, fuck jewbuntu, you stupid tards have no concept of security, i have to search for hours to find out how to disable the extra shit you have to add
[21:47] <_Techie_> i wonder if frogger realised all he had to do to stop the auto login for tty was to add a password to his acount
[21:56] <likemindead> 0__o
[21:56] <likemindead> Bigoted rednecks should stick to M$.
[22:13] <slow-motion> n8
[23:00] <gcrazy> Hi, how can I boot into console and then start the gdm (I think it's gdm that xubuntu uses right?) manually?
[23:03] <_Techie_> why the need for manually launching GDM?
[23:05] <gcrazy> _Techie_, eh... Not wanting to install X automaticly each time I boot xubuntu for starters?
[23:05] <gcrazy> There are many reasons why somebody may not want to boot directly into X
[23:06] <gcrazy> But why you want to know anyway?
[23:06] <_Techie_> you could un install gdm, that shoukd cause X to not load
[23:06] <gcrazy> _Techie_, No, I like gdm. And that seems like a windows solution
[23:06] <_Techie_> from there you could log into a tty console and issue xinit -- :0
[23:07] <_Techie_> *sigh* if your not gonna listen to what i have to say then im not gonna bother helping
[23:08] <gcrazy> _Techie_, it's not that I'm not listening. It's that I'm listening, and I don't like the solution because that's not the way to go.
[23:08] <gcrazy> There has to be a way to manually launch gdm
[23:09] <_Techie_> yes, but unless you want to have multiple WM's then theres no need for it as you will have to be logged in already to start it
[23:09] <_Techie_> my solution is to remove GDM, that should stop X loading at boot, then you can use xinit to launch X and then use startxfce4
[23:10] <gcrazy> True that
[23:10] <_Techie_> does that still sound like the worng way to go?
[23:11] <gcrazy> But launching x by its own wouldn't just give me the empty X screen with no programs at all?
[23:11] <gcrazy> _Techie_, no, sorry for being a jackass lol
[23:11] <_Techie_> when you start x by itself you will be given a xterm in the top left corner
[23:11] <_Techie_> run startxfce4 in that and xfce will load
[23:12] <gcrazy> _Techie_, but I mean, when I'm inside the empty desktop of X, I'm going to type startxfce4 where exactly?
[23:12] <_Techie_> well, open a terminal
[23:12] <gcrazy> I thought startx loaded only X with no terminals or anything like that
[23:13] <_Techie_> wait
[23:13] <_Techie_> no, startx runs your X startup scripts
[23:13] <_Techie_> i take it you know how to switch VT's
[23:14] <gcrazy> _Techie_, yup, ctrl + FXX
[23:15] <_Techie_> kk
[23:15] <_Techie_> to show yu what you will be displayed i will tell you how to start a display on :1 which should be either F8 or F9
[23:16] <_Techie_> xinit -- :1
[23:16] <_Techie_> run that in a terminal
[23:16] <gcrazy> but _Techie_ I'm already in X
[23:16] <gcrazy> With Xfce loaded and all
[23:17] <_Techie_> no, this will start another session of X
[23:17] <_Techie_> this is just to show you what you will see when using this method
[23:18] <gcrazy> _Techie_ "X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting: Server  error."
[23:18] <gcrazy> Should I sudo it?
[23:18] <_Techie_> you may need to run it with sudo then
[23:18] <gcrazy> _Techie_ Ok done
[23:19] <gcrazy> _Techie_, It lead me to a black screen with a basic terminal
[23:19] <gcrazy> As root thoug
[23:19] <_Techie_> yep
[23:19] <gcrazy> though*
[23:19] <_Techie_> from there for security you would su username
[23:20] <_Techie_> that would put you into your regular account for security
[23:20] <_Techie_> from there startxfce4
[23:20] <gcrazy> Oh nice trick, didn't know about su username :)
[23:20] <gcrazy> Ok I get the idea
[23:21] <_Techie_> used to use that method untill i realised that theres a menu item that starts another gdm session
[23:38] <gcrazy> _Techie_, when I issue ctrl + alt + backspace the screen goes black
[23:38] <gcrazy> But doesn't show me the console
[23:40] <_Techie_> yeah, i suggest you make sure you dont zap X
[23:40] <gcrazy> _Techie_, zap X?
[23:40] <_Techie_> ctrl+alt+backspace
[23:40] <gcrazy> How should I end it?, and what 'zap' means?
[23:41] <gcrazy> _Techie_, I also tried ctrl + alt + f1
[23:41] <gcrazy> same result
[23:41] <_Techie_> if you want to end it go to the terminal you launched xinit from and break the operation
[23:43] <_Techie_> i havent worked out a cleaner way
[23:47] <gcrazy> _Techie_, did it that way
[23:47] <gcrazy> Nothing happens :(
[23:48] <_Techie_> odd if you break the xinit command using ctrl+c then the second X session should go poof
[23:54] <gcrazy> _Techie_ ctrl c?
[23:54] <gcrazy> what's that
[23:54] <gcrazy> Should I issue it?
[23:57] <_Techie_> yeah, ctrl+c exits a running command
[23:58] <_Techie_> so when ised with the terminal/console that xinit is running in, it stops the second x session from running