[00:07] <knome> jarmenda, sorry, i lost myself in the world of internet
[00:07] <jarmenda> LOL it's Friday too (at least where I'm sitting)
[00:07] <knome> jarmenda, what does 'sudo apt-get check' say now?
[00:07] <knome> it's been saturday a bit over 2 hours here already
[00:08] <jarmenda> E: The package adobe-flashplugin needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[00:08] <knome> right.
[00:08] <knome> jarmenda, and you did 'sudo apt-get remove --purge adobe-flashplugin' ?
[00:08] <jarmenda> Did that as well but I will give it a go once more
[00:08] <knome> what did that say then?
[00:09] <jarmenda> Same exact error message
[00:09] <knome> hmm
[00:09] <knome> okay, just a minute
[00:10] <jarmenda> when I just did the apt-get remove...
[00:10] <knome> yep
[00:12] <knome> jarmenda, there seems to be a thread about you problem in the ubuntu forums (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8152309) solved a week ago
[00:12] <knome> jarmenda, search for message #8 or browse to http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=8086156&postcount=8 without all the messages
[00:13] <jarmenda> Gonna check it out.
[00:14] <knome> let me know if it worked out
[00:21] <jarmenda> it'll be a min as I have to install gedit
[00:22] <knome> you can use mousepad also
[00:22] <knome> it's just basic text editor stuff
[00:29] <jarmenda> Well now
[00:29] <jarmenda> Looks like that did it
[00:29] <knome> good to hear
[00:29] <jarmenda> admittingly I didn't make a backup of the ststus file but then again I'm used to doing that with the Windows registry
[00:29] <jarmenda> bad habit I know
[00:30] <jarmenda> domo arigato!
[00:30] <knome> o.O?
[00:30] <jarmenda> Japanese for thank you
[00:30] <knome> ah, you're welcome.
[00:30] <jarmenda> have a good one
[03:25] <only1rockn1> i need help configuring a marvell wireless card in a emachine celerond 512 ram 1044 swap 80 gig hd
[03:25] <only1rockn1> it wont see it
[03:25] <only1rockn1> under xubuntu but it found it under freespire
[03:26] <only1rockn1> any ideas please
[03:27] <_Techie_> good luck finding marvell wireless chipset drivers for linux (last time i checked, they dont exist)
[03:28] <_Techie_> however you can always use the windows drivers via ndiswrapper
[03:29] <only1rockn1> how did freespire find it and let it work
[03:30] <_Techie_> im not sure
[03:31] <only1rockn1> so how do i get the latest wine
[03:32] <only1rockn1> i am going to need it right
[03:32] <likemindead> !ndiswrapper
[03:32] <ubottu> Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:56] <IcedTeaMan> Alright.
[03:56] <IcedTeaMan> I need some help...
[03:56] <_Techie_> !ask
[03:56] <IcedTeaMan> with this...
[03:56] <ubottu> Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[03:56] <IcedTeaMan> disk.
[03:57] <IcedTeaMan> I need to make it bootable. This program is really confusing though.
[03:57] <IcedTeaMan> Help, anyone?
[03:58] <IcedTeaMan> Please.
[03:58] <_Techie_> what program are you currently using?
[03:58] <IcedTeaMan> CD Burner XP Pro.
[03:58] <IcedTeaMan> Something like that.
[03:58] <_Techie_> are you burning a bootable ISO?
[03:58] <IcedTeaMan> Yes.
[03:58] <IcedTeaMan> On a CD.
[03:59] <_Techie_> if you want to use windows to do this i reccomend imgburn, as the inbuilt cd burner software in windows isnt very powerful
[03:59] <IcedTeaMan> It's not the inbuilt one.
[03:59] <IcedTeaMan> It's just something calling itself "XP".
[04:00] <IcedTeaMan> I only have Windows and 5 gigs of SuSe Linux.
[04:00] <IcedTeaMan> Which is pretty useless by itself.
[04:00] <IcedTeaMan> It's asking me about emulation type.
[04:01] <_Techie_> well if you want to burn it in linux brasero should work peice of cake, in windows imgburn
[04:01] <IcedTeaMan> Alright.
[04:01] <_Techie_> neither will require you to change any settings other than burn speed if you wish
[04:01] <IcedTeaMan> Hmm.
[04:01] <IcedTeaMan> Sounds good.
[04:01] <IcedTeaMan> Thanks.
[04:01] <_Techie_> no problem
[04:12] <likemindead> Use the program Ubuntu recommends, Infrarecorder.
[04:51] <visitor1> hi _Techie_ , thanks for yesterdays help, sudo apt-get remove xfce4-session && sudo apt-get install xfce4-session, did work fabously
[04:54] <_Techie_> visitor1, glad i could help
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[12:05] <cwickert> where can I download the rc? http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/9.10/rc/ only lists the alternate, but not the desktop cd
[12:06] <_Techie_> karmic is set to be released on the 29th, why not just wait it out?
[12:08] <cwickert> _Techie_: because I want to try the rc, not the final
[12:09] <cwickert> meanwhile I found a mirror with the desktop image
[12:11] <_Techie_> well im gonna go to sleep
[12:11] <_Techie_> Night all
[12:53] <St0n3-C0l> Anyone uses Hamster here?
[12:54] <knome> we don't interfere with animal here;P
[12:55] <St0n3-C0l> LOL
[12:55] <St0n3-C0l> Hamster - Time Tracker :D
[12:56] <St0n3-C0l> works with GNOME though but not quite sure whether it works on XFCE or not and that too the XFCE version on Hardy
[12:56] <St0n3-C0l> :D
[12:56] <knome> should work
[12:56] <knome> have you had problems?
[12:56] <St0n3-C0l> I am going to go for Xubuntu Hardy
[12:56] <St0n3-C0l> at the moment :)
[12:56] <St0n3-C0l> No heard it few days back and on Ubuntu 9.04, it worked well
[12:57] <knome> hardy is old ;)
[12:57] <St0n3-C0l> I know but
[12:57] <St0n3-C0l> still supported
[12:57] <St0n3-C0l> :)
[12:57] <knome> sure
[12:57] <St0n3-C0l> And I've reason to go on it apart from the codecs problem :(
[12:57] <St0n3-C0l> I have to recompile everything for Hardy then.
[12:57] <knome> my eeepc is the only machine still running jaunty, the rest are karmic
[12:57] <St0n3-C0l> lol
[12:58] <St0n3-C0l> I've got Intel dude
[12:58] <St0n3-C0l> intel video :)
[12:58] <St0n3-C0l> The major reason for going back, otherwise love Jaunty as the memory footprint is quite low
[12:58] <St0n3-C0l> though I use Linux Mint series ;)
[12:58] <knome> okay
[13:01] <St0n3-C0l> And we can upgrade XFCE's own version right in it?
[13:01] <knome> hmm?
[13:01] <St0n3-C0l> I mean
[13:01] <St0n3-C0l> Upgrade to 4.6.1
[13:01] <St0n3-C0l> :)
[13:01] <knome> in hardy?
[13:02] <St0n3-C0l> there were some PPAs I found
[13:02] <St0n3-C0l> Yes
[13:02] <knome> if the ppa's work, go ahead;)
[13:02] <St0n3-C0l> and did that long time back. Was quite good but as the integration in the old LM and Ubuntu wasn't quite there as now, so thats what stopping me to D/Ling LM
[13:04] <St0n3-C0l> anyways thanks dude
[13:04] <St0n3-C0l> :)
[13:04] <knome> np
[13:04] <St0n3-C0l> I can guarantee the work on those PPAs because I think they were by the XFCE developers themselves
[13:05] <knome> yeah, that's possible
[13:05] <St0n3-C0l> So will finally settle on Hardy again LOL
[13:06] <knome> ;)
[13:07] <St0n3-C0l> Lets just hope the compilation of codecs goes well, thats only one big PAIN otherwise all is well for me.
[13:07] <knome> yeah
[13:07] <knome> good luck
[13:07] <St0n3-C0l> Thanks :)
[13:07] <St0n3-C0l> Will try to be regular in here :)
[13:08] <knome> hehe, great
[13:08] <knome> i think i am already way *too* regular
[13:11] <St0n3-C0l1> Thanks for the support knome :)
[13:11] <St0n3-C0l1> bye take care buddy.
[13:12] <knome> you too
[13:35] <goldmanru> Hi to everybody!:)
[13:37] <knome> !hi | goldmanru
[13:37] <ubottu> goldmanru: Hi! Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines. Enjoy your stay!
[13:38] <goldmanru> It's pretty quiet here...:)
[13:38] <knome> yep. nice and comfortable idling.
[13:39] <knome> any way, feel free to make some noise
[13:42] <goldmanru> :)
[13:43] <goldmanru> Well, in fact I;m really a beginner is matters of both IRC and Xubuntu...
[13:44] <goldmanru> Do you guys all use latest release of Xubuntu?
[13:45] <knome> it varies
[13:45] <goldmanru> It's just that I have problems with it...so would you please point me in the right direction for Xubuntu related solution
[13:46] <knome> goldmanru, are you talking about 9.04 or 9.10?
[13:47] <goldmanru> :) things get worse since i use Xubuntu on IBM laptop. I was talking about latest stable release 9.04...sorry for being unclear
[13:47] <knome> ok, so what's the problem
[13:48] <goldmanru> It's mostly related to the sound chip I have Cirrus Logic...
[13:49] <knome> okay
[13:49] <goldmanru> And since I've never tried any of the distros before it's so frustrating for me...
[13:50] <goldmanru> I don't even know how to install drivers here...:)
[13:50] <goldmanru> Though i managed to get my video working correctly, thanks to a faq i found on the net
[13:51] <knome> so, do yo have sound at all
[13:51] <goldmanru> But not a word about audio...it just seems that I'm the only one who have this problem
[13:51] <goldmanru> Well I sure have chip, but my laptop is deadly silent:-D
[13:52] <knome> okay
[13:52] <goldmanru> IBM T22 CS4625b/4297A
[13:52] <goldmanru> I dont even know how to define which chip i have onboard
[13:53] <goldmanru> I hope I'm not too daft for this :)
[13:53] <knome> lshw
[13:54] <knome> has your audio worked before on ubuntu?
[13:55] <goldmanru> Now I have OSS mixer and ALSA mixer installed at the same time. I dont even know whether it is right or not. And I'm sure that sound is not mute, but still when i try to play audio - it silent
[13:56] <goldmanru> sorry...a sec
[13:56] <goldmanru> should I do "sudo" before this?
[13:58] <goldmanru> ok, I did lshw and I see a list of something...:-)
[13:58] <knome> http://open.knome.fi/2009/07/05/panels-disappearing-and-other-frequently-asked-questions/ - see the pulseauio stuff from the bottom of the post
[13:58] <goldmanru> ok, opening it...
[14:02] <goldmanru> But...isn't it about pulseaudio....do I have it?
[14:03] <knome> you can run those commands
[14:03] <knome> and then you definitely won't have it
[14:03] <goldmanru> :-D
[14:03] <knome> and then we know it's not about PA
[14:04] <goldmanru> Ok, I'm going  do some cleaning over here...:-D
[14:06] <goldmanru> Oh, It says I don't have -purge package :-(
[14:06] <knome> --purge with two -'s
[14:06] <knome> hmm
[14:06] <knome> i need to fix the post
[14:07] <goldmanru> Package pulseaudio is not installed, so not removed
[14:07] <goldmanru> I guess I don't have it
[14:11] <knome> okay
[14:12] <knome> which media have you tried playing?
[14:12] <goldmanru> Audio CD, a couple of DVD movies
[14:12] <knome> okay
[14:13] <knome> try to play a .wav file
[14:15] <goldmanru> It's playing now
[14:16] <goldmanru> I can see it playing, but I can't hear it:)
[14:18] <knome> okay, just a moment
[14:19] <goldmanru> sure, no problem
[14:21] <knome> have you checked alsamixer?
[14:21] <goldmanru> Well...hard to say
[14:21] <knome> okay, so go to terminal and run 'alsamixer'
[14:21] <goldmanru> How can I do it anyway?
[14:21] <goldmanru> Ok
[14:22] <knome> it's a text-based mixer - let's check everything is okay there
[14:23] <goldmanru> I've tried to raise volume levels everywhere I could...
[14:23] <goldmanru> Some items are off
[14:24] <knome> what are the "card" and "chip" values in alsamixer?
[14:24] <goldmanru> Card: Sound Fusion CS46xx
[14:24] <goldmanru> Chip: Cirrus Logic CS4297A rev 4
[14:25] <knome> okay
[14:25] <goldmanru> :-)
[14:25] <knome> which items are off? is there any bar with "MM" under it?
[14:25] <goldmanru> Yes a few...
[14:25] <knome> also, have you checked that the sound card is enabled in the bios?
[14:26] <goldmanru> I guess so...
[14:26] <knome> you should double check
[14:26] <goldmanru> Can I check it from OS?
[14:27] <knome> no, you have to go to the bios
[14:28] <goldmanru> ok, as you say
[14:28] <goldmanru> gonna reboot
[14:28] <knome> okay:)
[14:36] <goldmanru> Hi, I'm back
[14:36] <knome> welcome back
[14:37] <goldmanru> Well, I haven't found anything that could relate to sound in bios
[14:37] <goldmanru> :-(
[14:37] <knome> okay
[14:38] <knome> so then it's probably enabled
[14:38] <goldmanru> I guess...
[14:38] <knome> goldmanru, have you read through https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting ?
[14:39] <goldmanru> Thanks a lot. I haven't seen it.
[14:40] <knome> no problem. most of the things aren't ubuntu/xubuntu specific, so most of the tutorials for ubuntu are good for xubuntu also
[14:46] <knome> bbl ->
[15:38] <gcrazy> Hi, what's the difference exactly between normal and alternate installer cd isos?
[15:39] <goldmanru1> Hi
[15:39] <gcrazy> Only that the normal runs a graphical installation and alternate runs debian's text based installation?
[15:39] <gcrazy> What I want to know is if that's the only difference
[16:56] <second_nick> hi
[16:57] <second_nick> how can i mount my second drive?
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[16:57] <likemindead> One second, Kokos.
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[16:57] <likemindead> I know of a good article.
[16:57] <lailapas> 2 commands
[16:58] <likemindead> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/mountlinux
[16:58] <TheSheep> !mount | likemindead
[16:58] <ubottu> likemindead: mount is used to attach devices to directories. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount
[17:01] <likemindead> Yes, TheSheep, I'm aware of what mount is.
[17:02] <lailapas> its ntfs
[17:02] <likemindead> !ntfs
[17:02] <ubottu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE
[17:02] <lailapas> sudo mount /dev/sb1 /sb1 -t ntfs
[17:03] <lailapas> this?
[17:34] <slow-motion> hi
[17:39] <only1rockn1> my wireless card is being ignored by the system
[17:39] <only1rockn1> please help
[17:39] <only1rockn1> any1
[17:40] <Sysi> what's model of that?
[17:44] <only1rockn1>  mavell
[17:44] <only1rockn1> 8300 ver 78
[17:44] <only1rockn1> ver 7
[17:44] <only1rockn1> i had it working in freespire
[17:45] <Sysi> have you googled with "model name + ubuntu"?
[17:46] <Sysi> i'm on very slow internet connection currently
[17:47] <likemindead> Doesn't look good, only1rockn1. I don't think there are good drivers available for Marvell chips.
[17:47] <likemindead> You may be able to use ndiswrapper.
[17:47] <likemindead> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[17:49] <only1rockn1> why did it work in freespire
[17:50] <only1rockn1> freespire 2.08
[17:50] <Sysi> there are drivers
[17:51] <only1rockn1> what is the difference in configuration and it is based off u7buntu
[17:52] <only1rockn1> i gotta deal with the devil to get the driver i guess
[17:52] <only1rockn1> xandros and ms
[17:52] <only1rockn1> or is there another way out
[18:02] <faciar> I'm sure the right ppl know this, but the link to get 9.10rc from 'http://xubuntu.org/news/karmic/beta' is broken. It's supposed to link to 'http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/9.10/rc/' :)
[18:44] <Gratz474> is the rc of ubuntu 9.10 just as stable as the one for regular ubuntu?
[18:45] <likemindead> Xubuntu, you mean? I'd say so. I've been using Xubuntu 9.10 since Alpha 6 with no major issues. Loving it.
[18:45] <Gratz474> I am running standard ubuntu right now just installed maybe 3 days ago
[18:45] <Gratz474> 2 days
[18:45] <Gratz474> but I really do prefer Xfce more then Gnome
[18:46] <Sysi> you can install xfce to that
[18:46] <likemindead> Same here. My laptop is an ancient PIII (700MHz) w/ 1GB DDR.
[18:46] <Gratz474> Sysi, yea but then ......
[18:46] <Gratz474> likemindead, how does it run xfce?
[18:46] <Gratz474> i got 2.6 ghz
[18:46] <Gratz474> I haven't used the new version at all
[18:48] <Gratz474> but ubuntu with compiz is pleasing
[18:48] <Gratz474> I do got a free 4 GB parition you think thats enough? hmm
[18:48] <Gratz474> probably now
[18:48] <Gratz474> not
[18:49] <Gratz474> well for my ubuntu setup only using 2.7 GB's
[18:49] <Gratz474> maybe
[18:53] <likemindead> Yeah, Gratz474, 4GB should be plenty.
[18:53] <likemindead> And my old ghetto PIII is running fantastic.
[18:53] <likemindead> :-)
[18:54] <gcrazy> I know for a fact that Xfce is a great desktop environment. I use it on my own labs, and I've never had a single problem. You want rock solid stability and elite support?, why think it twice?, go Xfce: "The professionals' DE".
[18:54]  * gcrazy sets TV-AD mode off
[18:55] <likemindead> ^____^
[19:09] <Gratz474> gcrazy, lol
[19:09] <Gratz474> gcrazy, now the question is ubuntu a professionals os? heheh (debian_
[19:09] <Gratz474> )
[19:11] <Gratz474> Just kidding i do like the software included with ubuntu / xubuntu in general
[19:12] <Gratz474> likemindead, p3, i dont think I could go there heh
[19:17] <gcrazy> Gratz474, Well I actually said Xfce, not xubuntu
[19:18] <gcrazy> lol
[19:45] <Gratz474> gcrazy, hehehee
[20:15] <hat0> hi all - question about installing the rc.  if i install the rc now, will it be able to update itself to the final release in a week without problems?
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[21:28] <frogger> how can i stop the tty terminals from automatically logging me back in after exit
[21:28] <frogger> DO NOT WANT
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[21:29] <frogger> i commented out a line in event.d for the ttys but it doesnt seem to take effect
[21:29] <frogger> id rather not reboot
[21:46] <frogger> gnome-screensaver-command -l not locking, tty 1-6 automatically logs me in, fuck jewbuntu, you stupid tards have no concept of security, i have to search for hours to find out how to disable the extra shit you have to add
[21:47] <_Techie_> i wonder if frogger realised all he had to do to stop the auto login for tty was to add a password to his acount
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[21:56] <likemindead> 0__o
[21:56] <likemindead> Bigoted rednecks should stick to M$.
[22:13] <slow-motion> n8
[23:00] <gcrazy> Hi, how can I boot into console and then start the gdm (I think it's gdm that xubuntu uses right?) manually?
[23:03] <_Techie_> why the need for manually launching GDM?
[23:05] <gcrazy> _Techie_, eh... Not wanting to install X automaticly each time I boot xubuntu for starters?
[23:05] <gcrazy> There are many reasons why somebody may not want to boot directly into X
[23:06] <gcrazy> But why you want to know anyway?
[23:06] <_Techie_> you could un install gdm, that shoukd cause X to not load
[23:06] <gcrazy> _Techie_, No, I like gdm. And that seems like a windows solution
[23:06] <_Techie_> from there you could log into a tty console and issue xinit -- :0
[23:07] <_Techie_> *sigh* if your not gonna listen to what i have to say then im not gonna bother helping
[23:08] <gcrazy> _Techie_, it's not that I'm not listening. It's that I'm listening, and I don't like the solution because that's not the way to go.
[23:08] <gcrazy> There has to be a way to manually launch gdm
[23:09] <_Techie_> yes, but unless you want to have multiple WM's then theres no need for it as you will have to be logged in already to start it
[23:09] <_Techie_> my solution is to remove GDM, that should stop X loading at boot, then you can use xinit to launch X and then use startxfce4
[23:10] <gcrazy> True that
[23:10] <_Techie_> does that still sound like the worng way to go?
[23:11] <gcrazy> But launching x by its own wouldn't just give me the empty X screen with no programs at all?
[23:11] <gcrazy> _Techie_, no, sorry for being a jackass lol
[23:11] <_Techie_> when you start x by itself you will be given a xterm in the top left corner
[23:11] <_Techie_> run startxfce4 in that and xfce will load
[23:12] <gcrazy> _Techie_, but I mean, when I'm inside the empty desktop of X, I'm going to type startxfce4 where exactly?
[23:12] <_Techie_> well, open a terminal
[23:12] <gcrazy> I thought startx loaded only X with no terminals or anything like that
[23:13] <_Techie_> wait
[23:13] <_Techie_> no, startx runs your X startup scripts
[23:13] <_Techie_> i take it you know how to switch VT's
[23:14] <gcrazy> _Techie_, yup, ctrl + FXX
[23:15] <_Techie_> kk
[23:15] <_Techie_> to show yu what you will be displayed i will tell you how to start a display on :1 which should be either F8 or F9
[23:16] <_Techie_> xinit -- :1
[23:16] <_Techie_> run that in a terminal
[23:16] <gcrazy> but _Techie_ I'm already in X
[23:16] <gcrazy> With Xfce loaded and all
[23:17] <_Techie_> no, this will start another session of X
[23:17] <_Techie_> this is just to show you what you will see when using this method
[23:18] <gcrazy> _Techie_ "X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting: Server  error."
[23:18] <gcrazy> Should I sudo it?
[23:18] <_Techie_> you may need to run it with sudo then
[23:18] <gcrazy> _Techie_ Ok done
[23:19] <gcrazy> _Techie_, It lead me to a black screen with a basic terminal
[23:19] <gcrazy> As root thoug
[23:19] <_Techie_> yep
[23:19] <gcrazy> though*
[23:19] <_Techie_> from there for security you would su username
[23:20] <_Techie_> that would put you into your regular account for security
[23:20] <_Techie_> from there startxfce4
[23:20] <gcrazy> Oh nice trick, didn't know about su username :)
[23:20] <gcrazy> Ok I get the idea
[23:21] <_Techie_> used to use that method untill i realised that theres a menu item that starts another gdm session
[23:38] <gcrazy> _Techie_, when I issue ctrl + alt + backspace the screen goes black
[23:38] <gcrazy> But doesn't show me the console
[23:40] <_Techie_> yeah, i suggest you make sure you dont zap X
[23:40] <gcrazy> _Techie_, zap X?
[23:40] <_Techie_> ctrl+alt+backspace
[23:40] <gcrazy> How should I end it?, and what 'zap' means?
[23:41] <gcrazy> _Techie_, I also tried ctrl + alt + f1
[23:41] <gcrazy> same result
[23:41] <_Techie_> if you want to end it go to the terminal you launched xinit from and break the operation
[23:43] <_Techie_> i havent worked out a cleaner way
[23:47] <gcrazy> _Techie_, did it that way
[23:47] <gcrazy> Nothing happens :(
[23:48] <_Techie_> odd if you break the xinit command using ctrl+c then the second X session should go poof
[23:54] <gcrazy> _Techie_ ctrl c?
[23:54] <gcrazy> what's that
[23:54] <gcrazy> Should I issue it?
[23:57] <_Techie_> yeah, ctrl+c exits a running command
[23:58] <_Techie_> so when ised with the terminal/console that xinit is running in, it stops the second x session from running