[00:18] <ign0ramus> hey all.
[00:18] <linux_> focsani
[00:18] <ign0ramus> what's a quick command that will output only the total cpu being consumed at the moment?
[00:21] <carpii> uptime | cut -d" " -f14 | cut -d"," -f1
[00:21] <carpii> probably a better way, but that works
[00:22] <carpii> unless you mean cpu in terms of %ge
[00:22] <ign0ramus> carpii: thanks, but yeah, was looking for percentage
[00:25] <vs> hello
[00:44] <BobbyDrake> howdy, anybody home?
[00:48] <BobbyDrake> oops, switching to kubuntu-netbook
[01:21] <Guest6875> heya
[01:21] <Guest6875> anyone running kubuntu 9.10?
[01:22] <TuTUXG> here
[01:24] <Guest6875> huh?
[01:25] <jamesjedimaster> maybe in #ubuntu+1
[01:27] <mikk_> o
[01:28] <hunkar> hi
[02:43] <kalp> which is the best netbook linux OS?
[02:43] <bazhang> kalp kubuntu or ubuntu?
[02:44] <kalp> bazhang: kubuntu doesnt have netbook version, as fas i know
[02:44] <kalp> bazhang: but yes, ubuntu does hav
[02:45] <kalp> bazhang: what abt moblin
[02:48] <DengeSerhildan> hii
[02:48] <bazhang> kalp, did you have a kubuntu/ubuntu specific support question?
[02:49] <kalp> bazhang: no
[02:50] <DengeSerhildan> Can I ask questions ?Can you help?
[02:51] <DengeSerhildan> free ubuntu distributions over?
[02:52] <bazhang> DengeSerhildan, not sure what you mean
[02:52] <DengeSerhildan> Do you continue to wonder
[02:52] <DengeSerhildan> ?
[02:54] <DengeSerhildan> Does giving free ubuntu cd
[02:54] <DengeSerhildan> ?
[02:54] <bazhang> DengeSerhildan, are you referring to shipit ?
[02:54] <bazhang> !shipit | DengeSerhildan
[02:55] <DengeSerhildan> yes, but do not give cd?
[02:56] <DengeSerhildan> it was unable to write cd at?
[02:56] <bazhang> DengeSerhildan, they ship them to you. You need to click those links and request they do so.
[02:56] <bazhang> DengeSerhildan, are you having issues with burning the iso to cd?
[02:56] <hagabaka> is there a program for searching PPAs?
[02:56] <DengeSerhildan> I clicked yes, but has written no cd
[02:57] <DengeSerhildan> no
[02:57] <bazhang> hagabaka, which ppa
[02:57] <hagabaka> all of them
[02:57] <bazhang> generally google program name ppa
[02:57] <DengeSerhildan> I need cd?
[02:57] <bazhang> DengeSerhildan, then order one
[02:58] <DengeSerhildan> I got ubuntu cd?
[02:59] <DengeSerhildan> bad internet connection can download here
[02:59] <DengeSerhildan> :(
[03:00] <DengeSerhildan> Because of him I should have ubuntu cd
[03:00] <DengeSerhildan> :s
[03:00] <DengeSerhildan> understand me
[03:00] <DengeSerhildan> ?
[03:00] <maco> use shipit. they will mail/post you a cd
[03:00] <maco> box, with cd inside....postal carrier. understand?
[03:01] <DengeSerhildan> I've also done but did not send?
[03:01] <maco> it takes about 6 weeks
[03:01] <maco> not overnight
[03:02] <DengeSerhildan> yes I know but I've also been waiting more than 10 weeks have been sent
[03:02] <DengeSerhildan> Waiting for more than 10 weeks is
[03:02] <maco> oh. then maybe try buying one from amazon.com?
[03:02] <maco> only a couple dollars
[03:03] <DengeSerhildan> I would like re-typed ubuntu is depleted because we ask him
[03:03] <maco> what?
[03:04] <maco> are you going through google translate, by any chance?
[03:04] <DengeSerhildan> have no money
[03:04] <DengeSerhildan> :(
[03:04] <DengeSerhildan> yes
[03:04] <DengeSerhildan> can you speak ruski turkish kurdish?
[03:04] <maco> maybe try the channel for your language. maybe someone who lives near you can burn a cd for you?
[03:05] <maco> ruski? as in русский,
[03:05] <maco> ?
[03:06] <DengeSerhildan> da
[03:06] <DengeSerhildan> ruski znaes
[03:06] <DengeSerhildan> ?
[03:06] <maco> !ru
[03:06] <DengeSerhildan> yes ru
[03:06] <DengeSerhildan> ubuntu pisat latin klawye
[03:06] <DengeSerhildan> ya zinaeyo po ruskii
[03:06] <DengeSerhildan> e te
[03:06] <DengeSerhildan> ?
[03:07] <maco> ya ne mnogo govoryu po russki
[03:07] <DengeSerhildan> :)
[03:07] <DengeSerhildan> xarasho
[03:07] <DengeSerhildan> ya cucut po ruski gavaryo
[03:08] <maco>  /join #ubuntu-ru ?
[03:08] <DengeSerhildan> niznayo
[03:08] <DengeSerhildan> ? ???????
[03:08] <DengeSerhildan> ya novi4ok
[03:10] <DengeSerhildan> ya xotel vi imet ubuntu cd ci mojete li vi bislat mne?
[03:10] <DengeSerhildan> te ponimayo
[03:10] <DengeSerhildan> ?
[03:11] <maco> i don't know that much russian. you're best off asking someone from your local community team for a cd
[03:12] <DengeSerhildan> ok
[03:12] <DengeSerhildan> thank you whery mach
[03:12] <DengeSerhildan> :)
[03:28] <Fieldy> !firefox-3.5
[03:40] <murlidhar> hi all i am using ubuntu but the application i am using works on phonon back end ........ and it is not installed i think.... how should i install it  ?
[03:40] <murlidhar> phonon backend plugin could not be loaded
[03:40] <murlidhar> this is the error i get !!
[03:44] <murlidhar> anyone ?
[04:36] <garyliang> New kubuntu need help! My laptop is old Thinkpad, ATI radeon x1300. Q 1: Thousands of effects don't work.  Q2: Sound card does't work
[04:39] <Guest26289> I can't get k3dsurf to work on ubuntu 9.04. I saw that there were several errors documented, but does anyone know if there has been a fix yet?
[04:40] <garyliang> no one s here.....
[04:41] <PodeCoet> I'll probably get kicked for saying this
[04:41] <maco> PodeCoet: then dont?
[04:41] <maco> garyliang: might be better to try in #ubuntu
[04:41] <maco> garyliang: also helps to state which version you're using. 9.04, 9.10, etc
[04:42] <garyliang> 9.10
[04:42] <garyliang> thanks:)
[04:43] <PodeCoet> garyliang: Honestly, for that laptop I highly recommend trying out Linux Mint 7. My laptop has crappier specs, and its an absolute dream with all compiz effects enabled (didnt work so well under kubuntu)
[04:43] <PodeCoet> All my desktops run Kubuntu though
[04:43] <PodeCoet>  /hides
[04:44] <maco> oh. you can say mint :P
[04:44] <PodeCoet> oh and of course, the wakeup/hibernate bug doesnt exist :P
[04:44] <maco> garyliang: in that case #ubuntu+1
[04:44] <PodeCoet> haha mint is based on ubuntu anyway right?
[04:44] <maco> PodeCoet: we dont do mint support in here, but you can suggest it to someone...
[04:44] <garyliang> what is mint
[04:45] <PodeCoet> garyliang: its another linux distro, which feels like ubuntu only more polished
[04:45] <maco> garyliang: ubuntu-based distro with codecs and skype and such pre-installed, a different menu, and a different theme. but im pretty sure its gnome.....
[04:45] <PodeCoet> yeah, they have a KDE version too, but the gnome one is far better on laptops (performance wise), the KDE one sorta stutters with compiz
[04:45] <PodeCoet> this comming for a diehard KDE fan :P
[04:46] <maco> why use compiz when kwin has lots of effects too?
[04:46] <PodeCoet> additional eyecandy of course :P
[04:47] <garyliang> thanks guys, I'll do some research on mint. haha
[04:47] <PodeCoet> plus I get lots of video tearing with KWin during video playback, ccsm under compiz allows you to set vblank/etc, tearing issue disappears
[04:47] <PodeCoet> (damn ATI cards!)
[04:47] <maco> !ohmy | PodeCoet
[04:47] <PodeCoet> ...
[04:48] <maco> the "d" word ;)
[04:48] <PodeCoet> rightio :P
[04:49] <PodeCoet> I'll rephrase, the gentlemen at ATi are extremely plain.
[04:49] <maco> *snort*
[04:50] <tantra_> guys anyone knew hows to get the quickcam fusion driver?
[04:51] <PodeCoet> tantra_: something like this perhaps? http://indiangeek.com/blog/?p=60
[04:52] <tantra_> ok thanks,...will try
[04:52] <PodeCoet> hooray I'm helping :P
[04:53] <tantra_> podeCoet:thanks...
[04:53] <PodeCoet> np
[05:08] <lordganesh> can anybody tell me how could i check 'how much bandwidth i used' in ubuntu
[05:11] <lordganesh> how could i check broadband usage in ubuntu
[05:11] <leaf-sheep> lordganesh: I use nethogs -- and it is a terminal command.
[05:15] <lordganesh> leaf-sheep: it gives this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/301062/
[05:15] <carmelita> Hello, nobody knows how to play MIDI files in Kubuntu 9.10? I found infos about a kmid application, but it's not instalable. Please could someone help me?
[05:16] <leaf-sheep> lordganesh: Wireless?
[05:16] <carmelita> Actually on KDE 4.X
[05:16] <lordganesh> leaf-sheep: no bsnl-broadband
[05:17] <leaf-sheep> lordganesh: I see. Run "ifconfig" to get a list of interfaces.  You want to specify which interface card to listen to. Eg -- "sudo nethogs eth1"
[05:18] <leaf-sheep> lordganesh: Once you're in, you can toggle 'm' to change information in data -- kb to M or similar.
[05:20] <leaf-sheep> lordganesh: Everything works great now?
[05:21] <lordganesh> leaf-sheep: ya ..... thanks very much
[05:22] <leaf-sheep> lordganesh: Great. I use that often when I know I'm expecting a 300MB file or such and the programs does not always tell anything useful.
[05:22] <leaf-sheep> lordganesh: You're welcome.
[05:23] <lordganesh> leaf-sheep: i guess my device is ppp0 and it is displaying my transmited received data ...... thanks again.
[05:25] <lordganesh> but when i closed it and restarted again .it again starts from 0 ... ao did it back up data anywhere?
[05:29] <lordganesh> leaf-sheep: are  u there
[05:35] <leaf-sheep> lordganesh: Oh sorry. I took my new puppy outside for bathroom.
[05:36] <leaf-sheep> lordganesh: No it does not back anything up. It's useful for real-time viewing -- It starts when you starts the command and it ends when you end the command.
[05:38] <lordganesh> so should i put it in startup... i have limited broadband usage so i have to check everytime i use internet......or any other handy way.
[05:39] <leaf-sheep> lordganesh: I think you want to find a different package for that.
[05:39] <leaf-sheep> lordganesh: I don't know the name of the package though.
[05:39] <lordganesh> leaf-sheep: did ifconfig  tells that i see there is      transmitted received coloumn
[05:40] <leaf-sheep> lordganesh: Try "apt-cache search bandwidth | grep mon"
[05:41] <leaf-sheep> lordganesh: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/bandwidth-monitoring-tools-for-ubuntu-users.html
[05:46] <lordganesh> leaf-sheep: ok i will try that ......thanks .......bye....
[05:50] <s1300045> anyone knows where to find a tutorial on building a wireless ap?
[05:50] <s1300045> the one on ubuntu wiki is broken, doesn't work
[06:36] <taker0109> hello anybody
[06:38] <taker0109> jolicloud help anybody
[06:53] <taker0109> anyone here
[06:53] <taker0109> hello
[06:53] <taker0109> i need some quick yet confusing help
[06:54] <maco> uh oh
[06:54] <maco> oh wait you said jolicloud above. no idea
[06:54]  * maco disappears again
[06:57] <taker0109> the problem i have is
[06:58] <taker0109> maco: any good programs for ubuntu that convert IMG files into ISO's
[06:58] <maco> er...
[06:58] <maco> well an iso is a category of img file...
[06:59] <maco> but not vice versa
[06:59] <taker0109> so. is there
[06:59] <maco> ..and of course mkisofs lacks a manpage
[06:59] <taker0109> crap
[06:59] <taker0109> haha
[07:25] <reklama> http://action.metaffiliation.com/suivi.php?mclic=S42665516A5D131
[08:42] <blocktree> is is possible to re-run grub to detect new OS installed on another hard drive?
[08:43] <blaamann> Is there a version of Kubuntu for netbooks?
[09:29] <surgy> http://www.nrrrg.com/
[09:39] <GarthPS> Hi everyone, I have am package problem.I try to compile amaroj from git, but since my upgrade to 9.10 I have this error "Phonon library or includes NOT found!" but I have all phonon package installed!!
[09:39] <GarthPS> "libphonon4" "libphonon-dev" "libqt4-phonon" "libqt4-phonon-dev" "phonon". and  I have sylvain@Hellboy2:/usr$  find -iname "phononnamespace.h"
[09:39] <GarthPS> ./include/qt4/Qt/phononnamespace.h
[09:39] <GarthPS> on amarok channel the told me that a package is bad.
[09:39] <FloodBotK2> GarthPS: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:42] <Ramblurr> in karmic, when using kpackagekit any operation that requires accessing the internet fails
[09:43] <Ramblurr> See: http://imagebin.ca/view/ZjYZq-C.html
[09:43] <GarthPS> forget me I ask this on devel channel
[09:43] <Ramblurr> but aptitude works fine in the konsole
[09:49] <Guest72765> Hack attack
[10:19] <thenetgod> hey?
[10:28] <CptnAwesome> hi folks, my hardware isnt bleeding edge, but isnt that crappy, yet kubuntu is inredibly slow for me, ive tried a few versions since kde4 came along and they all seem to do the same.
[10:33] <chrisrc> hi
[10:33] <chrisrc> is it possible to you boolean operators in amarok 2 like in version 1?
[10:44] <Guest29421> if I have installed the server kernel, how can I install back the default kernel?
[10:44] <Guest29421> all I have is the server kernel
[10:53] <ionut_> hi. i have 3 operating systems on my pc (ubuntu 8.04,opensuse 11.2,windows xp sp3) and i want to install another one. but first i want to "uninstall" one of them (open suse 11.1). how can i do that ?
[10:55] <Guest29421> if I have installed the server kernel, how can I install back the default kernel?
[10:55] <Guest29421> all I have is the server kernel
[10:56] <Guest42547> Hello, Can I ask a question on kubuntu 9.10 netbook remix here?
[11:22] <ionut_> which is the ubuntu irc ?
[11:35] <oobe> ionut_, which is the ubuntu irc?
[11:36] <ionut_> how can i go to the ubuntu irc
[11:36] <ionut_> the link
[11:38] <oobe> i think i understand what you are asking but you still didnt express it properly what you want to do is join the channel #ubuntu
[11:38] <oobe> type /j $#ubuntu
[11:38] <oobe> type /j #ubuntu
[11:38] <ionut_> thx
[11:39] <oobe> first one was a typp
[11:39] <ionut_> yes
[11:39] <oobe> typo
[11:39] <ionut_> does anyone how can i "uninstall an operating system (i have 3 ubuntu ,open suse and windows) i would like to uninstall open suse and install another one
[11:40] <oobe> just format that partition before installing a new one
[11:40] <oobe> you can do it during install
[11:40] <oobe> the installer will ask you if you want to format
[11:40] <oobe> and warn yuo that you will destroy all data on that partition
[11:41] <ionut_> yes
[11:41] <oobe> btw you dont need 3 ubuntus
[11:41] <ionut_> i have one
[11:41] <oobe> oh ok
[11:41] <ionut_> i would like to install windows seven,to try it
[11:42] <oobe> i installed the rc in virtual box
[11:43] <ionut_> me too
[11:43] <ionut_> but i would like to try it 4 real
[11:50] <oobe> well have fun
[11:55] <bambule> if i encounter a bug in a kde program (i am an kubuntu user). how to properly report it? should the report be done in the kubuntu launchpad or on bugs.kde.org?
[12:05] <slacker_nl> bambule: report it at launchpad, but you could also report the bug upstream
[12:05] <thenetgod> http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=10793964 <---- is that a nice stand?
[12:05] <slacker_nl> bambule: if you report it also at kde, you can add the bug to the launchpad bug so the status gets updates
[12:05] <slacker_nl> updated
[12:08] <bambule> slacker_nl: ok, tnx
[12:11] <OlSmoke> hello
[12:19] <raveland> Installed kubuntu 9.04 but Grub never loads, have set the partition to active dunno what to do more, just a _ blinking in the top left corner when i boot
[12:21] <raveland> does anyone have a clue what might be wrong? tried reinstalling Grub to the mbr from the live-cd , no errors.
[12:23] <dmatt> raveland: tried pressing escape to enter grub menu?
[12:24] <raveland> yes nothing happens, just keeps blinking
[12:25] <dmatt> is grub installed on hda1/sda1?
[12:25] <raveland> i have a dual-boot setup, win7 on a nividia fakeraid and then another disk with kubuntu
[12:25] <raveland> grub is on sdc1
[12:26] <dmatt> did it worked before?
[12:26] <raveland> no it never worked
[12:27] <raveland> but if i enter with the live-cd it shows the partitions and everything looks ok
[12:27] <raveland> in fdisk
[12:27] <dmatt> what is on sda? you probably need to install something there, which would chainload to sdc
[12:28] <raveland> yeah well the problem is sda+sdb is a raid 0 thing, but its not hardware raid so kubuntu sees them as 2 different disks
[12:30] <raveland> if i choose the raid disks as boot order 1 in bios then win7 loads, if i choose SDC as boot order 1 then the blinking thingy comes
[12:31] <robin0800> raveland: its shift now not escape
[12:32] <raveland> oh ok, didnt try pressing shift, but isnt the grub menu suppose to appear automatically?
[12:33] <dmatt> robin0800: raveland is on 9.04
[12:33] <dmatt> grub1
[12:34] <raveland> it sounds like the bios is looking for something to boot because the hdd is reading, then it stops and the bliking never ends
[12:34] <raveland> will it make a difference if i change to 9.10?
[12:35] <uzunlar> slm
[12:35] <uzunlar> :D
[12:35] <dmatt> raveland, you can still install it on sda
[12:35] <dmatt> i mean grub
[12:35] <raveland> but wont that mess up my raid config, im thinking that the mbr is shared because its in raid?
[12:35] <dmatt> sdb is second raid disc?
[12:36] <raveland> yes
[12:36] <dmatt> shouldn't you have 3 discs in bios to chose one to boot from?
[12:37] <tr3e> does anyone else have issues with KOffice font rendering?
[12:37] <raveland> well bios recognizes the raid so sda and sdb is one and then sdc is one
[12:37] <dmatt> because if you choose second raid sdb, obviosly grub on sdc does not work
[12:38] <raveland> yeah well in bios it even states the name of the discs and i put it on the samsung one, the others are wd
[12:38] <dmatt> you said is software raid ??
[12:38] <raveland> well its actually fakeraid
[12:38] <dmatt> i do not understand raids, sorry
[12:38] <raveland> so its somewhere inbetween soft and hard
[12:39] <raveland> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fakeraid#Firmware.2Fdriver-based_RAID
[12:40] <raveland> how long does it take for you guys to get the grub menu after pressing the powerbutton?
[12:42] <dmatt> try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[12:43] <dmatt> 10 secs i guess
[12:43] <raveland> ok, thx a lot i will look into the article, hopefully i will solve it somehow, it seems weird though that it shouldnt be able to boot directly from sdc, i even put it as active
[12:45] <mattias_> hi, can someone help me guiding step by step setup virtual box to run an existing windows xp partition?
[12:46] <dmatt> raveland: i think it is bios thing as it never gets to grub, otherwise you would get some grub error
[12:48] <raveland> dmatt: yeah thats sounds true, maybe i will try and upgrade the firmware of my bios, might help
[12:51] <borre> hi
[12:52] <borre> Had the Kubuntu 3 working really fine.. after upgrade everuthing is 1000 slower
[12:53] <borre> There must be something wrong with graphics driver..
[12:54] <borre> Any suggestions to correct this or should I install the kde3 back?
[13:10] <slow-motion> hi
[13:11] <mattias_> anyone have a link for a guide how to automount ntfs partition in kubuntu?
[13:16] <Dekans> mattias_: I made it during installation
[13:17] <Dekans> # /windows was on /dev/sda1 during installation
[13:17] <Dekans> UUID=9208BC5308BC3855 /windows        ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[13:17] <Dekans> here is the matching /etc/fstab line
[13:18] <Dekans> replace UUID=9208BC5308BC3855 bay the correct partition
[13:19] <mattias_> well i found it yesterday but had to reinstall kubuntu. Now i can not find the guide how to automount ntfs to rw partition in kubuntu.
[13:19] <mattias_> i am totally new at this so it really has to be step by step lol..
[13:19] <robin0800> Dekans:  Use 'blkid -o value -s UUID' to print the universally unique identifier for a device;
[13:25] <Neremor> hello! i would like to compose some music via rosegarden or noteedit or any other software. that works allright, but the midi playback doesn't work. Could anyone please help me getting it to work? i allready installed dozens of packages in the last hour but it still doesn't work... what should i do? i just want to output the composed music...
[13:29] <Dekans> robin0800: thanks good to know
[13:29] <tsimpson> Neremor: have you looked at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo ?
[13:29] <Dekans> mattias_: just put this line in /etc/fstab with the good UUID
[13:41] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[13:43] <mattias_> Dekans: Thanks for trying to help, but the thing is what is the command in terminal to edit fstab? gedit doesn't work for me
[13:45] <Tscheesy_> mattias_: use kdesud kate <file> then (or in the Terminal sudo nano)
[13:45] <Tscheesy_> *kdesudo kate <file> (sorry)
[14:00] <second_nick> guys i use kubuntu rc in greece, and i cant connect to my wifi. its the channel the problem?
[14:10] <zoltanzoli> Is there anyone who can use hd 2400 mobility radeon correctly on kubuntu 9.10rc or kubuntu 9.04
[14:10] <zoltanzoli> hy all :)
[14:10] <ugur> hi all, do you know when will the kubuntu netbook release be ready?
[14:24] <wickedguy> hi
[14:25] <wickedguy> im kinda noobish to kubuntu
[14:25] <wickedguy> why cant apt get find mgetty?
[14:25] <JontheEchidna> is this a new install?
[14:26] <JontheEchidna> ugur: The same day as Kubuntu 9.10 is released
[14:26] <wickedguy> no live cd right now
[14:27] <JontheEchidna> ah, the universe repos are probably disabled on the live cd
[14:27] <wickedguy> *weeps*
[14:27] <ugur> JontheEchidna: Really? Then what is this thing kalled plasma netbook which is planned to be release in Jan 2010?
[14:27] <JontheEchidna> ugur: The Kubuntu netbook edition is a tech preview release
[14:28] <JontheEchidna> not intended for home use, but some say it already works quite well. It's a bit bleeding-edge
[14:28] <JontheEchidna> wickedguy: you can enable this from the sources editor
[14:28] <JontheEchidna> kdesudo software-properties-kde
[14:29] <JontheEchidna> ugur: then on the first tab check "Community-maintained Open Source software"
[14:29] <JontheEchidna> er
[14:29] <JontheEchidna> wickedguy: ^
[14:29] <ugur> JontheEchidna: In the cdimage site i see only nightly builds for kubuntu netbook release instead of a beta or RC
[14:29] <JontheEchidna> hmm
[14:29] <JontheEchidna> sorry for the wrong highlight, btw
[14:30] <wickedguy> yay its installing packages
[14:30] <wickedguy> you rock jontheechidna
[14:30] <JontheEchidna> :)
[14:31] <wickedguy> now if you could also tell me how to change the refresh rate from 60hz to 70 i would kiss you
[14:31] <wickedguy> btw. its not available over the KDE GUI
[14:31] <wickedguy> tried that
[14:31] <wickedguy> and i dont remember the terminal line for that either. too long ago
[14:32] <wickedguy> omfg
[14:32] <wickedguy> it worked
[14:32]  * wickedguy smooches JontheEchidna
[14:34] <JontheEchidna> I can't say that I do know how to change the refresh rate :(
[14:34] <wickedguy> well i just im SOL
[14:34] <wickedguy> *guess
[14:35] <wickedguy> anyways thanks
[14:35] <JontheEchidna> you're welcome
[14:35] <wickedguy> hope this shit works
[14:35] <wickedguy> :D
[14:35] <wickedguy> smell ya later
[14:36] <ugur> JontheEchidna: Do you know if there will be a release for Kubuntu Netbook version instead of the current nightly builds when 9.10 is ready?
[14:36] <JontheEchidna> ugur: I think there will be
[14:36] <ugur> thanks
[14:36] <Ev0luti0n_> ooooooooooooooooooooomagad
[14:36] <Ev0luti0n_> 29th october is almost here
[14:37] <Ev0luti0n_> i want the lastest version so bad
[14:37] <ugur> evolution picks the fittest not the newest :)
[14:37] <Ev0luti0n_> erm?
[14:38] <Ev0luti0n_> please explain. lol
[14:38] <ugur> darwin says
[14:39] <FinnArild> hm  any init.d script pros here?
[14:39] <FinnArild> ... my daemon doesn't seem to fork ...
[14:43] <wickedguy> ohai
[14:43] <wickedguy> ummm
[14:44] <wickedguy> a modem is spose to be tty
[14:44] <wickedguy> but where
[14:44] <wickedguy> ifconfig wont tell me
[14:44] <wickedguy> god i forgot a awful lot of stuff
[14:44] <wickedguy> windows made me lazy
[14:45] <robin0800> wickedguy: is it usb?
[14:45] <wickedguy> no internal
[14:47] <robin0800> wickedguy: then /dev/tty.... do  lspci in terminal
[14:47] <wickedguy> whoa
[14:47] <wickedguy> wait
[14:47] <wickedguy> what?
[14:47] <Tscheesy_> sudo lshw could help
[14:49] <wickedguy> ok i see it
[14:50] <wickedguy> btu whats the adress?
[14:54] <wickedguy> tty somthin
[14:54] <wickedguy> doesnt say
[14:54] <DoubleD84> if I'm going to make a more complex partitioning scheme. Would it be worth it to just have something like /usr/shr/music /usr/shr/movies or am I just being retarded?
[14:59] <wickedguy> goddmanit it still wont work
[14:59] <wickedguy> damn dreamcast
[14:59] <wickedguy> well i give up for today
[14:59] <wickedguy> cya
[14:59] <Tscheesy_> wickedguy: have a look at 'cat /proc/tty/drivers'
[14:59] <Tscheesy_> 2late.
[15:04] <DoubleD84> How much space should you have for / on just a desktop workstation?
[15:05] <DoubleD84> I've figured 40gb should be plenty
[15:44] <shockrates> hi
[15:57] <nfrs> hi
[15:58] <nfrs> 1. is there a fix to the KDE keyboard layout switcher problem, where it periodically stops reacting to the switch hotkey?   2. are there any other keyboard switchers?
[16:08] <_Xebasco_> hola
[16:08] <_Xebasco_> bueno lo queria invitar a todos a un canal de sofware libre y gnu/linux es #freelinux es muy bueno
[16:12] <lovre> hi all
[16:13] <lovre> what is tasksel command? man says its for installing tasks, but i dont understand how this differs from packages? confused !
[16:13] <maco> lovre: bundles of packages
[16:13] <maco> like all the packages needed to complete the "LAMP Server" task, for example
[16:15] <sourcemaker> what is the default font type and size in kde?
[16:15] <maco> vera sans 10, maybe?
[16:15] <lovre> maco: ah, i see... thank you
[16:15] <maco> er in kubuntu at least
[16:15] <maco> dunno what upstream default is
[16:18] <JontheEchidna> Debian (and by association us) change the default to Vera Sans
[16:19] <JontheEchidna> oh, actually Deja Vu Sans
[16:45] <bambule> i have recently updated to kubuntu 9.10rc1. since that i have the problem that webbrowsing is very flacky. pages are loading forever (no content, spinner never stops), others load after minutes. the strange thing is it happens with firefox and konquerer(!)
[16:46] <bambule> other machines on the same net don't have the problem
[16:46] <bambule> i am sure that its not an MTU problem.
[16:47] <bambule> i also know that its not a DNS problem. i ran wireshark and i can see that DNS gets resolved quickly.
[16:47] <bambule> but than after the DNs is answered often nothing happens for minutes
[16:47] <bambule> any ideas?
[16:48] <robin0800> bambule: graphic driver problem slow page rendering?
[16:51] <bambule> robin0800: hmm, not sure if it fits the bill. the rest of the system is snappy. desktop effects are fast. also when i just open the browser and try to load a single page. i can see in wireshark that the browser is resolving the address and than is doing nothing. it has at this point no data to render...
[16:51] <eshat> hi all.... I noticed that windows 7 runs much faster than kde 4.3.2. can that be ? it may also be, that KDE is not optimized for fullHD monitors yet.
[16:53] <robin0800> bambule: perhaps try gnome see if firefox is faster
[16:56] <Zed_Is_A_Good_Bo> I'm using opera and it's pretty blazingingly fast.
[16:56] <Zed_Is_A_Good_Bo> I haven't tried windows 7 yet though.
[17:01] <Mamarok> bambule: ask in #ubuntu+1 please for all questions related to Karimc, it still is only RC
[17:01] <ubuntu_> ola
[17:01] <Mamarok> Karmic*
[17:01] <Mamarok> ubuntu_: English, please :)
[17:04] <Mamarok>           | Please respect the Ubuntu IRC guidelines: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/IrcGuidelines
[17:04] <bambule> Mamarok: ok. i'll do. tnx
[17:05] <Mamarok> hi jono :)
[17:07] <Zed_Is_A_Good_Bo> i think ola is pretty much spanglish now though. :)
[17:09] <jono> hey :)
[17:09] <Mamarok> hm, seems I forgot something in the topic...
[17:12] <Liw-_> hello
[17:13] <Liw-_> just installed kubuntu karmic on a macbook 2,1 and I can't get the alt-gr key to work
[17:13] <Liw-_> where can I find some hints?
[17:13] <Mamarok> hi Liw-_
[17:14] <Liw-_> hi Mamarok
[17:14] <Mamarok> you might try here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro
[17:15] <Lotto> http://bio.pdg.pl/
[17:15] <Mamarok> *sigh*
[17:18] <Liw-_> I had a look there but they only show how to fix it on ubuntu/gnome
[17:18] <xzased> hi. Im having a problem with cdemu. It starts fine and I installed kcdemu as frontend but when I try to mount an image it says "Errror: All virtual drives are in use". If someone knows how to fix this please let me know.
[17:19] <xzased> Im using karmic rc btw
[17:20] <Mamarok> Liw-_: well, HAL works the same on both desktops normaly, did you try?
[17:20] <Mamarok> xzased: please ask in #ubuntu+1 for Karmic related questions
[17:20] <xzased> Thanks Mama ;)
[17:21] <Mamarok> Liw-_: since it's a console fix, that should work
[17:21] <Mamarok> xzased: Mamarok, please
[17:21] <Liw-_> thanks Mamarok, I'll give it a try
[17:22] <Mamarok> Liw-_: you are welcome :)
[17:26] <Blablabla> jo whats up
[17:26] <Blablabla> somebody there?
[17:26] <Mamarok> Blablabla: do you have a support question?
[17:27] <Blablabla> yes
[17:27] <Blablabla> how to install skype on kubuntu?
[17:28] <Mamarok> !skype | Blablabla
[17:30] <rafytafy> hello
[17:32] <Mamarok> hi rafytafy
[17:33] <rafytafy> is the new kubuntu out yet
[17:33] <maco> rafytafy: not til thursday
[17:33] <rafytafy> and is there a way to find out which chipsets are supported in the kubuntu kernel for the new release
[17:33] <maco> chipsets of....?
[17:34] <maco> you can try booting from the RC live cd to see if it supports your hardware
[17:34] <rafytafy> i have a new mobo msi 790fx gd70 and cant get certain functions to work under my current 8.04
[17:34] <maco> are you referring to audio, video, wireless...what sort of chipset?
[17:34] <rafytafy> was wondering if there is a data sheet or something of that sort for the new release
[17:34] <rafytafy> such as sensors etc etc
[17:35] <maco> no
[17:35] <rafytafy> ok :(
[17:35] <rafytafy> guess i will have to d/l and try
[17:35] <maco> youd have to go through the kernel changelog
[17:35] <rafytafy> yeah i thought as much..i figured i could run the live cd, install the sensors monitors and see if they work i suppose
[17:36] <rafytafy> bah i hope they work by 10.4
[17:38] <rafytafy> maco: would you say there will be many changed between now and the official release on thursday
[17:39] <rafytafy> changes*
[17:39] <maco> no
[17:39] <maco> its release candidate
[17:39] <rafytafy> ah so i might as well try it today huh
[17:39] <maco> its "if you no release-critical bugs are found, it ships"
[17:39] <rafytafy> ahh gotcha
[17:39] <rafytafy> thank you
[17:40] <Shockrates> hi how can i make firefox my default browser?
[17:40] <Shockrates> i have downloaded it
[17:41] <rafytafy> you can install it with apt-get Shockrates
[17:41] <rafytafy> sudo apt-get install firefox
[17:41] <Shockrates> i have
[17:41] <Shockrates> how can i make it my default browser
[17:41] <maco> Shockrates: system settings -> default applications -> web browser
[17:41] <Shockrates> and not konq
[17:42] <rafytafy> has dolphin been scrapped from use? i am still on 8.04
[17:42] <maco> dolphin is the file manager
[17:42] <maco> konq is the browser
[17:42] <rafytafy> ah, but one could change that
[17:42] <maco> yes you can use konq for everthing if you want
[17:42] <rafytafy> yup i do
[17:42] <Mamarok> rafytafy: give it a try first, there have been a lot of changes since 8.04 :)
[17:42] <rafytafy> really :O
[17:43] <maco> i like dolphin
[17:43] <Mamarok> well, 8.04 was 18 months ago :)
[17:43] <maco> i switched to kubuntu with 9.04
[17:43]  * Mamarok uses dolphin only
[17:43] <maco> soo much nicer than ubuntu's file browser
[17:43] <rafytafy> in 8.04 my dolphin has some stupid bugs, like reporting a 1tb drive as 1gig
[17:43] <Mamarok> rafytafy: that was a long time ago, really, try it out
[17:43] <Shockrates> cya thanks
[17:43] <rafytafy> i will as soon as i install new kubuntu
[17:43] <maco> thats 3 kde releases ago
[17:44] <maco> we're on 4.3.1 in 9.10
[17:44] <rafytafy> darn
[17:44] <rafytafy> i am in the past huh
[17:44] <maco> yeah ;)
[17:44] <rafytafy> i am attracted to the long term support of the LTS releases I guess
[17:44] <Mamarok> maco: actually, it's KDE 4.3.2
[17:44] <maco> i think i poked at 4.0 once and went back to gnome. since 4.2 its been really cool
[17:44] <maco> Mamarok: oh!
[17:44] <maco> rafytafy: 8.04 isnt lts for kubuntu
[17:44] <Vroomfondle> 4.3 is miles better than 4.0/4.1 were
[17:45] <rafytafy> maco: but kernel updates are
[17:45] <maco> yes
[17:45] <rafytafy> maco: the rest i attempt to update on my own, yes I know..not a good idea in general
[17:45] <Mamarok> rafytafy: well, you also get kernel upgrades for all the other releases during 18 months
[17:46] <rafytafy> yeah thats what i read 18 months on wiki
[17:46] <rafytafy> I do with certain things like games were kept up to date on kubuntu
[17:46] <rafytafy> wish*
[17:47] <Mamarok> rafytafy: well, all KDE games are up-to-date as of KDE 4.3.2, else you might give Neon a try
[17:47] <Mamarok> it builds nightly from KDE trunk
[17:47] <Mamarok> and isntalls in a sandbox so it doesn't affect your usual build
[17:47] <Mamarok> current Neon is for Jaunty only, though
[17:48] <Mamarok> and will likely switch to Karmic once it is released
[17:49] <rafytafy> ah ok
[17:49] <Byron> Can someone help me determine if my motherboard and/or system specs are no longer supported?
[17:50] <Byron> I've been having issues for the last 2-3 releases
[17:50] <Vroomfondle> what kind of issues?
[17:51] <Byron> Network suddenly drops, video freezes for no determined reason, and a few others. those 2 are the most common/irritating.
[17:52] <Vroomfondle> tbh the video thing could be a bug in earlier versions of KDE4
[17:53] <Vroomfondle> do the same problems occur in Karmic?
[17:53] <mark_> tried installing kubuntu 9.04 several times on my new laptop , install reaches 30% then gives me the [Errno5] input/output error
[17:53] <Mamarok> Byron: the easiest way to test is to fire up a live CD, if it runs, then your hardware is supported
[17:53] <Byron> I don't have Karmic
[17:53] <mark_> ive been trying with no luck for 3 days any ideas?
[17:53] <Mamarok> Byron: did you try with another CD, could be a problem with the CD
[17:53] <maco> mark_: Mamarok was talking to you
[17:54] <mark_> the copy of the CD was shipped to me directly from cononical and ive checked it for defects
[17:54] <maco> how's your cd drive?
[17:54] <Byron> Mamarok: I've tried various things and things suddenly fail at random. It's hard for me to isolate and troubleshoot.
[17:55] <Mamarok> oops, sorry, wrong nick
[17:55] <mark_> ive also tried installing ubuntu 9.04 and 8.10 with the same error
[17:55] <maco> (guess how i first realized the cd drive was broken in my other laptop?)
[17:55] <Byron> Another thing too, which isn't so high on my list, is USB. I plug in my external 500GB device and it either won't read it or sees it then drops it.
[17:55] <mark_> the cd/dvd drive is working fine
[17:56] <mark_> laptop is brande new and had vista on it
[17:56] <Mamarok> mark_: you should check a) the CD integrity (there is an option in the first menu) and b) check the integrity of your hard disk, the tools are on the Live CD as well
[17:56] <Byron> As for USB transfers, they randomly fail. I see them moving, at a steady pace, then they speed drops to zero within 10 seconds.
[17:56] <mark_> ive ran all the tools from the live cd
[17:56] <maco> maybe the lens needs to be cleaned? i found that my drive was broken just enough to fail at installing but it could still play cds ok for a while...before it started to freak out when trying to rip them
[17:56] <mark_> several times
[17:56] <mark_> also did a mem test all works fine
[17:56] <maco> the hard disk test?
[17:57] <Mamarok> mark_: and you can run the live CD?
[17:57] <mark_> yes the live cd works fine
[17:57]  * Mamarok remembers having had problems with CDs, too, even on a new laptop
[17:57] <Mamarok> so usually changing CD is a good idea
[17:58] <Mamarok> or, if you can boot your computer with an USB stick, try installing from a USB stick
[17:58] <ponting> any one tell me client that supports cam chat of MSN .....
[17:58] <maco> ponting: kopete should...
[17:59] <mark_> seems a usb stick install is my only option
[17:59] <maco> ponting: in channel please
[17:59] <nightwlkr> mark u having error during installation or while starting in the first place
[17:59] <Mamarok> mark_: well, as I said, changing CD is usually the easiest to do
[18:00] <nikitis> Where is kubuntu's firewall options located at?
[18:00] <Mamarok> during installation, nightwlkr
[18:00] <ponting> no its not working ...
[18:00] <Byron> Is there someway of troubleshooting my network issue before my desktop decides its time to take a break (freeze)?
[18:00] <nightwlkr> i went through hell installing kubuntu maybe i went through that also :P
[18:00] <maco> nikitis: you can install guarddog if you want a kde front end to iptables
[18:00] <maco> nikitis: if you dont mind command line, you can modify iptables directly
[18:01] <nikitis> maco: i'm having troubles with ventrilo synchronizing to servers
[18:01] <nightwlkr> if it creates partition tables and u get that error during file copying than ur cd is damaged
[18:01] <ponting> use USB startup disc creator ......... i always use it to switch to newer version ...
[18:01] <Byron> can I obtain Karmic at this time to test?
[18:02] <Byron> I know the release date is only a week away, but still
[18:02] <Mamarok> Byron: see the topic, please
[18:02] <nightwlkr> also make sure when burning a new cd from an iso the md5 sum check works fine..cause my iso which was on the hard drive working previously was causing this issue..so had to download the whole thing again
[18:02] <Byron> reading...
[18:03] <Byron> Sorry about that. I'm going to get the ISO now. Thanks.
[18:03] <mark_> i have already installed the same cd of kubuntu on several different pc's with no problem
[18:03] <nightwlkr> so what's the error with this 1?
[18:04] <mark_> this new Acer just wont partition for some reason
[18:04] <nightwlkr> laptop?
[18:04] <Mamarok> mark_: you can try with a command line tool like gparted, it's on the live CD, too
[18:04] <mark_> installs to 30% and sometimes 60% then error
[18:05] <Mamarok> hm, partitioning is done long before 30%
[18:05] <mark_> yes it is an Acer aspire 4520
[18:05] <nightwlkr> could b a cdd drive issue
[18:05] <mark_> thats what im thinking
[18:06] <nightwlkr> cause u said sometimes it's stopping on 30% sometimes on 60
[18:06] <nightwlkr> if it was the cd or any other problem it should always stop same place
[18:06] <mark_> some others have suggested switcjing cd/dvd drives
[18:06] <ponting_> use usb dude
[18:06] <nightwlkr> had that problem :P
[18:06] <mark_> like i said its brande new and had vista working fine on it
[18:07] <nightwlkr> mark_:  what ponting_ suggested might b the best option
[18:07] <nightwlkr> guarantee no lense or cd problems :P
[18:07] <mark_> i will give it a try
[18:08] <nightwlkr> by the way even new drives sometimes have problems..nowadays everything low quality :P
[18:08] <mark_> i agree
[18:09] <nightwlkr> i buy alot of computer parts..15% go back cause it works with some cd's and doesn't read most of them or reads half the cd
[18:09] <ponting_> lolzz
[18:09] <ponting_> i do also have problems with maa DVD drive..it boots well with DVD>.but stucks up in between ..with CD'sss
[18:09] <nightwlkr> ponting_: did u try a firmware upgrade?
[18:10] <ponting_> let it  be any boot item ...kubuntu, hiren, win 7  !!
[18:10] <Byron> I just read the 9.10 documentation, upgrade steps, etc. I'm impressed. :)
[18:10] <nightwlkr> ponting_: firmware upgrade for the dvd drive :P not ur os
[18:10] <ponting_> no i didn't.
[18:10] <NeKit> init.c: In function 'home_dir':
[18:11] <NeKit> init.c:354: error: 'PATH_MAX' undeclared (first use in this function)
[18:11] <NeKit> init.c:354: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
[18:11] <NeKit> init.c:354: error: for each function it appears in.)
[18:11] <FloodBotK2> NeKit: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:11] <ponting_> nightwlkr:will tht work
[18:11] <nightwlkr> sometimes yes..if the problem is the software in the drive that's not letting it function normally a firmware upgrade might fix it
[18:12] <nightwlkr> what brand is it? LG?
[18:12] <NeKit> when trying to compile wget under cegcc
[18:12] <neospd> Please help with Ati HD2600
[18:12] <ponting_> no i don't think that wil work as it is happening with any thing ...any OS any boot image ..
[18:12] <neospd> don't correctly work opengl
[18:12] <ponting_> it is LITE-ON
[18:13] <ponting_> replaced that 3 yrs.. ago ..
[18:13] <nightwlkr> ponting_: i got that..but it's only happening on cd's u say..so the content don't matter
[18:13] <ponting_> yaa
[18:14] <nightwlkr> what do u have to lose? try it
[18:16] <Byron> 9.10 torrent will take 1d7h to finish. Any faster method known?
[18:16] <Mamarok> Byron: it will speed up over time if there are enough seeders
[18:17] <Mamarok> Byron: or download directly from a mirror close to you, but if you have a slow connection it will not get better
[18:18] <neospd> Please help with Ati
[18:19] <genii> Byron: If you have 2 machines to work with, you can run the same torrent on both, they will pick up different pieces from each other, then share them with each other at faster speeds than with other boxes on the internet-at-large
[18:20] <nightwlkr> neospd: what's ur problem with the ATI?
[18:20] <Byron> I have the netbook (which I'm on right now) and the ever-lovable desktop.
[18:21] <Mamarok> nightwlkr: too late...
[18:23] <nightwlkr> well not that i know much Mamarok but am trying to help others using google searches :P
[18:23] <nightwlkr> so am not really a fast helper
[18:23] <Mamarok> nightwlkr: I said that because he asked and left the minute later
[18:24] <nightwlkr> weird i still c him online :P
[18:24] <nightwlkr> ok now he quits :P
[18:26] <nightwlkr> anyways i'll b back later either with a question or to provide some assistance :P
[18:41] <rosco> Hi
[18:41] <flo> heyhey
[18:43] <rosco> After installing 9.10, my raid isn't detected anymore. The primary partitions aren't listed in /proc/partitions but are visivle in fdisk -l. I was using mdadm but it seems that 9.10 comes with dmraid. What should I do ?
[18:44] <Mamarok> rosco: please ask in #ubuntu+1
[18:44] <vadmin> hello!
[18:44] <rosco> ok
[18:45] <Mamarok> !hi | vadmin
[18:46] <vadmin> speak russian?
[18:46] <Mamarok> !ru | vadmin
[18:47] <vadmin> 2ubottu senks
[18:47] <ponting_> pls.. in english dude let   others understand as well peoples from INdia are also here so le em be!
[18:48] <Mamarok> ponting_: I was just pointing him to the Russian channel :)
[18:50] <ponting_> oh :P
[19:59] <mauri> i need a program with gui in order to sy 2 foldersncronize
[20:06] <Pete_R> Hello! Can someone tell me please how can I write with romanian diacritics in kubuntu?
[20:11] <Byron> Can I safely upgrade to ext4 from ext3 without losing data or formatting?
[20:12] <Mr-S^b32> Byron : In theorie yes, but i would not bet on it.
[20:13] <Mamarok> Byron: backup your data first, always the best choice :)
[20:14] <Byron> Mamarok: I have the desktop from hell. It will drop off the network randomly, freeze when it wants to and not let me even see my 500GB external device.
[20:14] <Mamarok> Byron: you can backup from a console with rsync, no need for a desktop
[20:15] <Mamarok> Byron: do you have your /home on a separate partition?
[20:15] <Byron> It's not even that. The thing is just being stupid.
[20:15] <Mamarok> if yes, then a clean install is the easiest and best solution
[20:15] <Byron> No, I have not separated the mount points as I have been wanting to do so
[20:15] <Mr-S^b32> sounds more like a hardware issue to me ...
[20:16] <Mamarok> Byron: separating that is always a good idea, believe me
[20:16] <Mamarok> the freezes could be your graphic card driver, X can be very picky
[20:17] <Mamarok> drop of the network, Lan or Wlan? And put your external HD in fstab with a label so it gets mounted by default
[20:17] <Byron> Mamarok: nVidia 7600GS 512MB
[20:18] <Mamarok> Byron: I am not the card specialist, but there have been reports on all graphic cards with problems, just different ones
[20:18] <Mamarok> ATI has dropped cards from their driver, the Intel chipset in the eeePc is broken in Ubuntu and Nvidia has also its share of problems
[20:19] <Mamarok> if only every manufacturer would provide free drivers *sigh*
[20:19] <Byron> Quick breakdown: Abit VT7 motherboard with P4 3.2GHz 478-pin processor, 4GB RAM, 1TB HDD (Seagate) SATA, nVidia 7600GS 512MB VRAM.
[20:21] <Mamarok> Byron: which Nvidia driver, Kubuntu version, KDE version?
[20:21] <Byron> Directly from nVidia. The Kubuntu/KDE versions don't give me a GUI
[20:21] <Mamarok> ouch...
[20:21] <Byron> Yeah.
[20:22] <Byron> I built this desktop myself back in the end of 2004. It's worked very well since then until about Sept/Oct 2008
[20:22] <Mamarok> no, I said ouch because you don't use the offically provided drivers, which are probably the best solution, so which driver number is this?
[20:22] <jwx> hi, how do i start a kde app with a specific (another) kde style?
[20:23] <Byron> I don't recall off the top of my head. It's 18x.
[20:23] <Byron> one-eighty something
[20:24] <Mamarok> Byron: 185 would make sense, that's the latest in Jaunty
[20:24] <Byron> That sounds about right.
[20:25] <Mamarok> jwx: I don't know, sorry, never used that
[20:25] <jwx> Mamarok: ok
[20:26] <Mamarok> jwx: any particular style/app you want to use? Avoid Bespin with Amarok, it breaks the app, just so you know
[20:28] <matahari> hi all! I wanted to ask if it is possible that i make a second install on my harddisk resizing the current logical ext2 partition and create a second logical partition? And after migrating all data and testing the new system, can i remove the first logical partition and resize the second partition to the whole size again?
[20:29] <jwx> Mamarok: ok.. it's opera.. dark colorscheme messed it up.. running it under default color scheme would be enough guess
[20:30] <Mamarok> matahari: yes, it's possible, but I guess you talk about ext3, don't you?
[20:30] <matahari> Mamarok: yes, sorry....
[20:30] <Mamarok> jwx: since it's not a KDE app I am not sure this is possible
[20:30] <matahari> Mamarok: does it make a difference, though?
[20:31] <Mamarok> matahari: well, yes ext2 is quite old and nobody uses it anymore, the next release will use ext4 btw
[20:31] <matahari> i'm using the "alpha" here (now it's RC i know ;-) ) ;-)
[20:32] <matahari> Mamarok: that's why i want to change: test ext4 and use 64bit instead of 32bit
[20:32] <Mamarok> matahari: if you didn't do a fresh install with it then you still have ext3, unless you changed already in Jaunty
[20:32] <matahari> Mamarok: do you know if 64bit will increase performance on a core2duo mobile?
[20:32] <Mamarok> matahari: well, I run Karmic 64bit since quite some time, and it works well
[20:32] <jwx> Mamarok: it's the version using the qt library.. anyway will look into it
[20:33] <Mamarok> matahari: not sure it makes much sense to have such a hassle with resizing partitions
[20:34] <matahari> Mamarok: well, but i have no space on an external HDD for a backup :-(
[20:34] <Mamarok> matahari: the best would be to have your /home on a separate partition, so you can just do a fresh install which takes less than 30 minutes, much faster than repartitioning 4 times
[20:34] <matahari> Mamarok: but this would be not good for a change from 32 to 64 bit, right?
[20:34] <Mamarok> matahari: well, resizing partitions without a backup is a bad idea anyway, you should avoid that
[20:34] <matahari> Mamarok: or doesn't this affect the home partiition as well?
[20:35] <matahari> Mamarok: OK
[20:35] <Mamarok> matahari: doy ou already have your /home on a separate partition?
[20:35] <matahari> Mamarok: so i'll look for some space somewhere....
[20:35] <matahari> Mamarok: not yet
[20:35] <Mamarok> you should, it really spares you time later
[20:36] <matahari> Mamarok: how much space did you leave for / ?
[20:37] <Mamarok> matahari: that depends on how much you are going to install, only KDE?
[20:38] <Mamarok> matahari: then 10-15 Gb are enough and leave you with some space
[20:39] <matahari> well, i'll install a webserver, an IDE (eclipse and co), and some other useful software
[20:39] <matahari> how much space does KDE use?
[20:39] <Mamarok> matahari: well, that depends if you install with or without the debugging packages, and if you install only the apps you need or a full KDE with all apps
[20:40] <matahari> Mamarok: never a full KDE, only basic stuff and some apps i want. Without debugging packages.
[20:40]  * Mamarok has 30Gb for / and 120 Gb for /home
[20:41] <matahari> Mamarok: seems like a good solution
[20:41] <Mamarok> matahari: it totally depends on your own needs and the size of your HD
[20:41] <matahari> Mamarok: 150 GiB
[20:41] <matahari> Mamarok: so i will use the same setup as you have
[20:42] <Mamarok> I have a full KDE here and QtCreator + some Gnome apps and close to all -dbg packages, it takes about 10.5 Gb
[20:42] <matahari> Mamarok: it seems like you are not running out of space with yours
[20:42] <Mamarok> matahari: don't forget the Swap space
[20:42] <matahari> Mamarok: wow
[20:42] <matahari> Mamarok: funnily, here i have 2 GiB of RAM, but it is never used. SWAP is ALWAYS empty
[20:42] <matahari> the system uses max. 700 MB or so
[20:42] <matahari> really funny
[20:42] <mhz`> you guys recommend a good dev. environment for php on ubuntu?
[20:43] <matahari> when i use Virtual Machines as well, it uses about 1.6 GiB
[20:43] <Mamarok> swap ? Ram*2, unless you have more than 4 Gb
[20:43] <Mamarok> mhz`: Quanta+ is nice
[20:44] <matahari> Mamarok: okay, so i will only leave / 28 and me 118 GiB ;-)
[20:44] <Mamarok> matahari: well, I run OpenGL and a lot of plasma apps, that takes some Ram :)
[20:44] <matahari> running the same here ^1
[20:44] <matahari> ^^
[20:44] <matahari> ;-)
[20:44] <matahari> really funny
[20:44] <FloodBotK2> matahari: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:44] <matahari> my RAM is like the bag of mary poppins
[20:45] <Mamarok> well, Ram on Linux is at least used when necessary and freed when not, unlike other OS
[20:45] <matahari> Mamarok: yeah, seems so. I love Linux
[20:45] <matahari> Mamarok: okay, thank you for your advices
[20:45] <Mamarok> matahari: you are welcome :)
[20:46] <matahari> Mamarok: I will start making backups now, let's see where i can put all my stuff ;-)
[20:46] <matahari> Mamarok: bye!
[20:46] <Mamarok> matahari: rsync is your friend for that :)
[20:46] <Mamarok> cu
[21:04] <matt001> HI, I;ve installed the netbook plasma, and now my computer is like a netbook, how do I change back to normal desktop?  Thanks
[21:12] <apetrescu> Will those Karmic Koala changes that are listed on the Ubuntu page which aren't related to Gnome (like Upstart and Grub2) also be present in Kubuntu, even though the Kubuntu "What's New" page makes no mention of them?
[21:13] <matt001> apetrescu - yes that is correct, normally I just look at whats new on ubuuntu and minus the gnome and application stuff
[21:13] <apetrescu> matt001: Great. Thanks :)
[21:14] <apetrescu> I can't wait for KDE to have an UbuntuOne client, sigh...
[21:14] <matt001> ie, like the ubuntu 'one' stuff - which kde does not have a front end for
[21:14] <matt001> same here, I want ubuntu one too
[21:14] <Lord_Drachenblut> apetrescu: a qt native ubuntuone client?
[21:14] <apetrescu> Lord_Drachenblut: Correct
[21:16] <matt001> anyone know how to get kde 4.4 running?
[21:20] <Tm_T> matt001: from what source?
[21:21] <codeknight> hi, I just found out that after upgrading to kubuntu 9.10 my internal card reader isn't recogniced anymore.
[21:21] <Mamarok> matt001: so far you can either compile from trunk or try out the nightly Neon builds
[21:21] <Mamarok> codeknight: mine works fine, you might miss a package
[21:21] <Mamarok> codeknight: but please ask in #ubuntu+1
[21:22] <codeknight> ok thanks I will try it there
[21:28] <matt001> thanks
[21:38] <Shockrates> hi
[21:38] <Shockrates> i need some help
[21:38] <Shockrates> how can i change the ip and subnet mask of my ethernet adapter?
[21:39] <Shockrates> static ip
[21:41] <Shockrates> can someone help
[21:42] <dmatt> Shockrates: use command ifconfig
[21:42] <Shockrates> yes
[21:43] <Shockrates> yes
[21:43] <Shockrates> i want to give a static ip and subnet mask to eth0
[21:43] <Shockrates> i dont want it to have auto
[21:44] <llutz> Shockrates: disable network-manager, configure /etc/network/interfaces for static-IP
[21:44] <EagleScreen> Shockrates: if you dont see the tool under systemsettings, use /etc/network/interfaces file
[21:46] <Shockrates> what tool
[21:46] <Shockrates> EagleScreen:
[21:46] <EagleScreen> Systemsettings -> Network Preferences? || Network Settings?
[21:46] <Shockrates> network settings
[21:46] <Shockrates> available
[21:47] <EagleScreen> try it first if you want
[21:47] <Shockrates> add
[21:47] <Shockrates> wired network?
[21:48] <EagleScreen> if you don't know it..
[21:48] <EagleScreen> is your connection wired or wireless?
[21:48] <Shockrates> wired
[21:49] <Shockrates> i want to connect 2 pcs with an ethernet
[21:49] <Shockrates> i just need first to set a common subnet mask
[21:49] <Shockrates> and 2 ips
[21:49] <Shockrates> like 1.0.0.1 and 1.0.02
[21:50] <EagleScreen> yes
[21:50] <EagleScreen> it is wired then
[21:51] <EagleScreen> but, does networkmanager 0.7 allow that kind of connections???
[21:51] <Shockrates> yes it is
[21:51] <Shockrates> i dont know
[21:51] <EagleScreen> try it
[21:51] <Shockrates> ok
[21:53] <Guest56549> Why is nepomukservices sometimes going to 96% CPU usage, draining my batteries?
[22:28] <Szadek> hello everybody , is it possible to sync android/gmail contacts with kmail ?
[22:44] <morecrow> which FTP tool for kde does the hivemind generally agree on?
[22:47] <Shockrates> hi
[22:47] <Shockrates> i have created an ethernet network between vista and kubuntu. i open network samba places
[22:47] <Shockrates> and a shared folder
[22:47] <Shockrates> but it asks for authrorization
[22:47] <Shockrates> i entered username and password but its a no go
[22:48] <sobczyk> morecrow:  try krusader, I don't know any other kde4 ftp apps
[22:49] <sobczyk> krusader 2.0, because there is a kde3 veriosn too
[22:50] <morecrow> thanks! I found out that Dolphin can handle it, setting it up atm
[22:57] <mhz`> Shockrates, what's the error message?
[22:57] <Shockrates> no error
[22:57] <Shockrates> it justs needs authorization
[22:57] <Shockrates> and i guess its wron
[22:57] <Shockrates> wrong
[22:59] <Shockrates> mhz`:
[22:59] <Shockrates> any idea
[22:59] <lordganesh> how could i make my ubuntu faster
[23:00] <sobczyk> change the hardware is te simplest
[23:00] <lordganesh> any soft changes
[23:03] <Liw-_> anybody with an .fdi hal config file that enables alt-gr key?
[23:03] <Liw-_> been trying everything i've seen on internet
[23:03] <Liw-_> and nothing works
[23:12] <lordganesh>  i have one problem in ubuntu .....whenever i reboot my sound automatically goes off...any solution
[23:13] <Dragnslcr> lordganesh- have you checked KMix?
[23:14] <lordganesh> i am using ubuntu
[23:14] <Dragnslcr> Then you should probably ask in #ubuntu
[23:33] <rlonsdale> sorry to sound noobish, but is there a way to keep kubuntu from remembering wpa keys? I'd like to restrict access to only those who know the key
[23:39] <rlonsdale> anybody know how to prevent kubuntu from remembering WPA keys?