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hggdh | anyone knows of problems when booting with udev in debug mode? | 03:13 |
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dtchen | I haven't encountered any yet; what's the issue? | 03:16 |
hggdh | my X started without mice or keyboard | 03:16 |
hggdh | I would get a mouse by unplugging (USB) and replugging, but I cannot do the same with the keyboard, its a laptop | 03:18 |
dtchen | interesting. What does /var/log/Xorg.0.log say? | 03:18 |
hggdh | http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/301001/ | 03:20 |
hggdh | the moment I rebooted with udev_log="error" set in udev.conf X was OK | 03:23 |
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alex_mayorga | I think I'm suffering of https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/290704 can anyone help me confirm or file a proper karmic bug if needed? | 05:16 |
ubot4 | Launchpad bug 290704 in fglrx-installer "[fglrx]Computer freeze when switching user" [High,Confirmed] | 05:17 |
micahg | if you can't add anything, then you can just subscribe | 05:25 |
micahg | and mark as affecting you | 05:25 |
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slacker_nl | someone running hardy with iwl3945? | 11:11 |
switchgirl | sd cards refuse to auto mount without a reboot in karmic 9.10 | 13:13 |
switchgirl | more of an issue with sd hc | 13:14 |
rafferty | hi all, I have no speaker sound with Ubuntu Jaunty (or Karmic) using a Lenovo x200.... any suggestions? | 13:36 |
micahg | rafferty: check in #ubuntu for Jaunty or #ubuntu+1 for karmic | 13:42 |
greg-g | jcastro or bdmurray: can one of you extendmy bug-control membership? It is set to expire on Halloween. Thanks! | 14:58 |
bdmurray | only for a treat ;-) | 15:01 |
greg-g | bdmurray: whats your favorite? caramel apple? snickers? An excuse to go out west would be nice :) | 15:02 |
bdmurray | I'm partial to laffy taffy | 15:04 |
greg-g | duly noted | 15:05 |
wild_oscar | hey, is something wrong with the services management in karmic? I was having a problem with nfs-kernel-server not starting at boot, and now I am seeing that postfix doesn't start either | 16:16 |
wild_oscar | I've posted about the nfs-kernel-server bug on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nfs-utils/+bug/455045 | 16:17 |
ubot4 | Launchpad bug 455045 in nfs-utils "nfs-kernel-server doesn't start automatically at startup" [Undecided,New] | 16:17 |
wild_oscar | but there doesn't seem to be much interest about it... | 16:17 |
hggdh | wild_oscar: we are near release, everybody is busy. Unless it is a kitten-killer, you will not get attention right now | 16:22 |
wild_oscar | hggdh: hmm...having services like postfix or nfs starting at boot seems pretty important on a linux distro, though | 16:26 |
hggdh | I agree. On the other hand, I do not have this issue... | 16:27 |
wild_oscar | hggdh: alright... | 16:28 |
wild_oscar | hggdh: just for me to try to fix it on my own, could you tell me where, aside from syslog, I could find any error logs about services not starting | 16:30 |
wild_oscar | postfix, nfs-kernel and portmap (because it is because of portmap not starting that nfs doesn't start) | 16:31 |
hggdh | so may be the issue is with portmap | 16:34 |
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mbt | Hi, I have found a critical bug in 9.10 Server release candidate. I have no known fix, and I need it to be seen by people. It is bug 460153. Any ideas on how to get that looked at ASAP? | 18:32 |
ubot4 | Launchpad bug 460153 in mountall "mountall on karmic server install fails" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/460153 | 18:32 |
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Armageddon | ok, I need a little help to file a bug report please | 19:03 |
BUGabundo | Armageddon: shoot | 19:03 |
Armageddon | 2 problems since Jaunty, laptop does not shutdown restarts on -h, I have to do -H and shutdown manually or it will restart, and bluetooth does not work even though it is recognized by the kernel as I can see in dmesg | 19:04 |
BUGabundo | Armageddon: have you looked on launchpad? | 19:05 |
Armageddon | yea a long time ago | 19:05 |
Armageddon | they had this application that was stopped for Phoenix BIOS | 19:05 |
Bodsda | Hi | 20:14 |
nightwish | hmm nice, after upgrade to karmic, my crypted /home causes bootup trouble. i'm asked for passphrase, but before i have the chance to enter it completely and hit return, mountall throws a bunch of error messages and i get a sulogin prompt. didn't find similar reports in launchpad yet, but i remember there was some crypto-related bug mentioned in the rc announcement. not sure wether this is related | 20:28 |
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lfaraone | If a problem in libFoo affects package bar and baz, should bar and baz be marked using "also affects" on that bug? | 22:02 |
greg-g | lfaraone: no, if updating libFoo is all that is needed to fix the issues in bar and baz | 22:03 |
lfaraone | greg-g: okay, thought so. | 22:03 |
greg-g | if, however, there needs to be additional changes to bar and baz, then... yeah, you get it | 22:03 |
VXxed | Hi! I have a problem. | 22:13 |
VXxed | I don't know/think my acpi stuff is loading correctly, or at all. | 22:13 |
VXxed | The only indication of this that I have is that my fans on my laptop do not spin, there is nothing in /proc/acpi/thermal_zone and /proc/acpi/fanspeed/, and that after setting up lm-sensor successfully (I think), running sensor gives me nothing at all, other than mainboard temp and cpu temp being 0C | 22:15 |
VXxed | I'm running this on 9.10, and using Phoenix BIOS version 1.05 | 22:15 |
VXxed | Is anyone active/available? | 22:42 |
micahg | VXxed: sure | 22:42 |
VXxed | Awesome. | 22:43 |
VXxed | So | 22:43 |
VXxed | I don't know if my acpi stuff is loading properly, if at all. | 22:43 |
VXxed | The fans on my laptop are not spinning | 22:43 |
micahg | which version of Ubunut? | 22:43 |
VXxed | I'm now running 9.10 on a Fujitsu T4020D with Phoenix BIOS version 1.05 | 22:44 |
VXxed | After trying to set up lm-sensor, and running sensor, all I got was "cpu" and "mainboard" temp, both listed at 0C | 22:44 |
micahg | ok, I suggest checking in #ubuntu+1 for support, they can probably get you going...if you end up finding a bug, come back and we can help you file it | 22:45 |
VXxed | Erm, this was also a point on 9.04, which is why I even ended up on 9.10 | 22:45 |
VXxed | All I knew at that point was though that the fans weren't spinning, and 9.10 fixed that for somebody else | 22:46 |
micahg | yeah, I don't know much about that, see if it's a known issue in #ubuntu+1 and if they have a fix | 22:47 |
VXxed | Alright, thanks | 22:47 |
micahg | I can help you file a bug if they either don't know or say it's an unknown bug | 22:47 |
VXxed | Alright, thanks. I've been trying to fix this issue all day now | 22:49 |
VXxed | I started off in ubuntu+1 but nobody would respond so I went from "my fan isn't working" to "I'm pretty sure my acpi isn't loading right, I heard phoenix bios and linux don't cooperate too well" | 22:50 |
micahg | ok | 22:50 |
micahg | well, sunday is usually a slow day as most of the people are off | 22:50 |
VXxed | Ah, fair enough. | 22:51 |
VXxed | By the way | 22:52 |
VXxed | I've heard talk about forcing acpi to load in the kernel..something. | 22:52 |
VXxed | Do you know anything about that? | 22:52 |
micahg | no, sorry, I usually triage Firefox | 22:53 |
micahg | you can check in #ubuntu-kernel and see if anyone | 22:53 |
micahg | 's around | 22:53 |
VXxed | Alright | 22:53 |
micahg | I wish I could help more | 22:53 |
VXxed | Eh, don't worry about it. At the very least, you've responded | 22:55 |
VXxed | More than what I've gotten for most of today :P | 22:55 |
micahg | that much I can do :) | 22:56 |
hggdh_ | VXxed: look at the kernel boot parameters - /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.31/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt | 23:25 |
VXxed | About to do it now | 23:26 |
VXxed | In process of bootup | 23:26 |
hggdh_ | there are some options dealing with ACPI there. Also, some ACPI implementations a quite hosed... but I do not deal with ACPI anymore, been out for the last 3 years | 23:27 |
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VXxed | I don't see kernel-parameters in documentation | 23:28 |
hggdh | in the source tree? | 23:29 |
VXxed | Yeah | 23:29 |
VXxed | /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.31-14/Documentation | 23:29 |
VXxed | Only file is Makefile | 23:29 |
hggdh | not headers | 23:29 |
hggdh | *source* | 23:29 |
VXxed | There isn't one.. | 23:30 |
VXxed | Just linux-headers-2.6.31-14 and the same -generic | 23:30 |
hggdh | apt-get install linux-source && tar -xjf /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.31.tar.bz2 | 23:30 |
hggdh | then you will have it | 23:30 |
VXxed | Is there a space on either side of the &&? | 23:31 |
ehasenle | space does not matter | 23:32 |
VXxed | Alright | 23:32 |
VXxed | Any reason why I didn't already have this? | 23:32 |
wild_oscar | hggdh: around? can you confirm to me you have postfix, portmap and nfs-kernel-server running? | 23:32 |
ehasenle | linux-source is not installed by default AFAIK | 23:33 |
wild_oscar | I've added a test case to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nfs-utils/+bug/455045 | 23:33 |
ubot4 | Launchpad bug 455045 in nfs-utils "nfs-kernel-server doesn't start automatically at startup" [Undecided,New] | 23:33 |
hggdh | wild_oscar: I am here, will check | 23:33 |
hggdh | VXxed: you have to install linux-source | 23:33 |
wild_oscar | so someone can see if the issue is caused by having all these at once | 23:33 |
wild_oscar | (comment 4) | 23:33 |
hggdh | wild_oscar: I do not have nfs-kernel-server. I do not use NFS at all. | 23:34 |
wild_oscar | I've just tested it. postfix runs alright. if I install nfs-kernel-server, none of the 3 services will start at reboot. they will start if I start them manually (only constraint is that portmap starts before nfs-kernel-server) | 23:34 |
VXxed | I now have the .tar.bz2 in /usr/src/ | 23:34 |
wild_oscar | if I remove nfs-kernel-server and reboot, postfix starts at boot without a problem | 23:35 |
hggdh | VXxed: cd /usr/src && tar -xjf linux-source-*.tar.bz2 | 23:35 |
wild_oscar | hggdh: can you quickly try the test case? | 23:35 |
hggdh | let me look at iut | 23:35 |
VXxed | Un-tar-ing it now | 23:36 |
ehasenle | wild_oscar: is nfs available in the process listing? (ps ax|grep nfs) | 23:36 |
wild_oscar | ehasenle: when? | 23:37 |
ehasenle | upon reboot, before doing nfs restart | 23:37 |
wild_oscar | ehasenle: let me check | 23:37 |
wild_oscar | (rebooting) | 23:38 |
VXxed | I'm now looking at kernel parameters | 23:39 |
ehasenle | I have it installed karmic as a KVM image and nfsd appears to run from the beginning | 23:39 |
VXxed | What would you like to know? | 23:40 |
wild_oscar | ehasenle: I have a couple of processes, yes - http://pastebin.com/d3b36a9c5 | 23:40 |
wild_oscar | why do I have a " /bin/sh /etc/rc2.d/S20nfs-kernel-server start" process? | 23:40 |
ehasenle | yep, seems to hang | 23:41 |
wild_oscar | does this mean the start process is stuck? | 23:41 |
ehasenle | at least the nfs part | 23:41 |
ehasenle | appears to | 23:41 |
wild_oscar | and how is this related to postfix not starting? | 23:41 |
ehasenle | maybe postfix has a dependency on nfs | 23:42 |
ehasenle | so it is only started after nfs starting is finished? | 23:42 |
wild_oscar | ehasenle: postfix? no, it doesn't start at all. only when I manually "service postfix start" | 23:43 |
wild_oscar | after booting | 23:43 |
ehasenle | does nfs start? | 23:43 |
wild_oscar | nfs? as in, nfs-client? | 23:44 |
wild_oscar | I don't have the client | 23:44 |
ehasenle | no, the server | 23:44 |
ehasenle | turbo | 23:44 |
wild_oscar | isn't that nfs-kernel-server? | 23:44 |
ehasenle | sorry, wrong window | 23:44 |
VXxed | hggdh: Alright, I'm looking at kernel-parameters.txt. What would you like to know? | 23:44 |
wild_oscar | ehasenle: isn't nfs-kernel-server the nfs server? | 23:45 |
ehasenle | yep nfs-kernel-server still does not run, right? | 23:45 |
wild_oscar | no... | 23:45 |
wild_oscar | as said in the bug report, it does not start. it only start if I manually "service portmap start" and afterwards "service nfs-kernel-server start" | 23:46 |
wild_oscar | it starts *then*... | 23:46 |
wild_oscar | I don't know if nfs-kernel-server depends on portmap | 23:47 |
wild_oscar | ie, it seems to, as "# Required-Start: $remote_fs nfs-common $portmap $time" is in the init.d script | 23:48 |
wild_oscar | if so, shouldn't nfs-kernel-server have a different priority? | 23:48 |
ehasenle | ah, i kicked into the discussion because I have read the bug report this morning | 23:48 |
ehasenle | but cannot reproduce it on my virtual machine | 23:49 |
wild_oscar | ehasenle: did you do the steps in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nfs-utils/+bug/455045/comments/4 ? | 23:49 |
ubot4 | Launchpad bug 455045 in nfs-utils "nfs-kernel-server doesn't start automatically at startup" [Undecided,New] | 23:49 |
ehasenle | I have already nfs-kernel-server installed, do you thing it is sufficient to deinstall first? | 23:50 |
hggdh | wild_oscar: yes, portmap should start before nfs-kernel-server | 23:50 |
wild_oscar | oh, hang on...right now I'm looking at sysv-rc-conf and portmap doesn't seem to be configured to start | 23:51 |
wild_oscar | just to confirm, is it " update-rc.d portmap defaults" ? | 23:51 |
wild_oscar | ehasenle: if you can try it... | 23:51 |
wild_oscar | then do an apt-get autoremove | 23:52 |
wild_oscar | which should autoremove portmap | 23:52 |
VXxed | hggdh? | 23:52 |
hggdh | yes? | 23:52 |
VXxed | I am now looking at that text file | 23:52 |
wild_oscar | (why on earth isn't portmap configured to start at boot when you install nfs-kernel-server??) | 23:52 |
VXxed | What would you like me to do now? | 23:52 |
ehasenle | for me it starts successfully | 23:53 |
hggdh | VXxed: look at the ACPI options, and start trying them to see if your boot gets better | 23:53 |
ehasenle | i mean portmap | 23:53 |
VXxed | Ah. How do I insert them into wherever? | 23:53 |
hggdh | when you start/reboot your machine you should get either the GRUB or GRUB2 boot screen | 23:54 |
VXxed | Mine seems to shoot right past that | 23:54 |
VXxed | Unless I hit something | 23:54 |
hggdh | then hit something ;-) | 23:54 |
VXxed | Yar, and it'll be obvious from there? | 23:54 |
hggdh | you have to edit the boot command line, and add the options you are going to try | 23:55 |
wild_oscar | ehasenle: could you please confirm which checkboxes are checked when you run sysv-rc-conf for the line portmap, please? | 23:55 |
VXxed | Another command I don't know... | 23:55 |
hggdh | ? | 23:56 |
ehasenle | i need a moment (rebooting) | 23:56 |
VXxed | Also. I searched for "fan" and the only thing that seems relevant was i8k.restricted, which was "Allow controlling fans only if SYS_ADMIN capability is set." Should I try the i8k.force command to activate the i8k driver regardless of signature match? | 23:56 |
hggdh | VXxed: I have no idea of what i8k is. If it is hardware, no, it is really not a good idea to overload different hardware | 23:57 |
VXxed | Alright. | 23:58 |
ehasenle | wild_oscar: there are no "X" for portmap | 23:58 |
VXxed | How do I edit the boot command line from there? | 23:58 |
ehasenle | but it is started correctly upon reboot | 23:58 |
wild_oscar | ehasenle: even not in the "s" column? | 23:59 |
hggdh | VXxed: click on 'e', then use arrows to position yourself, and type/delete/backspace as needed. Then... varies, if you are running grub or grub2 | 23:59 |
VXxed | Do you know what acpi_apic_instance= is? | 23:59 |
VXxed | Rather, what's the apic table | 23:59 |
ehasenle | no, not even there | 23:59 |
ehasenle | (its a capital S) | 23:59 |
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