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hggdhanyone knows of problems when booting with udev in debug mode?03:13
dtchenI haven't encountered any yet; what's the issue?03:16
hggdhmy X started without mice or keyboard03:16
hggdhI would get a mouse by unplugging (USB) and replugging, but I cannot do the same with the keyboard, its a laptop03:18
dtcheninteresting. What does /var/log/Xorg.0.log say?03:18
hggdhhttp://pastebin.ubuntu.com/301001/03:20
hggdhthe moment I rebooted with udev_log="error" set in udev.conf X was OK03:23
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alex_mayorgaI think I'm suffering of https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/290704 can anyone help me confirm or file a proper karmic bug if needed?05:16
ubot4Launchpad bug 290704 in fglrx-installer "[fglrx]Computer freeze when switching user" [High,Confirmed]05:17
micahgif you can't add anything, then you can just subscribe05:25
micahgand mark as affecting you05:25
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slacker_nlsomeone running hardy with iwl3945?11:11
switchgirlsd cards refuse to auto mount without a reboot in karmic 9.1013:13
switchgirlmore of an issue with sd hc13:14
raffertyhi all, I have no speaker sound with Ubuntu Jaunty (or Karmic) using a Lenovo x200.... any suggestions?13:36
micahgrafferty: check in #ubuntu for Jaunty or #ubuntu+1 for karmic13:42
greg-gjcastro or bdmurray: can one of you extendmy bug-control membership? It is set to expire on Halloween. Thanks!14:58
bdmurrayonly for a treat ;-)15:01
greg-gbdmurray: whats your favorite? caramel apple? snickers? An excuse to go out west would be nice :)15:02
bdmurrayI'm partial to laffy taffy15:04
greg-gduly noted15:05
wild_oscarhey, is something wrong with the services management in karmic? I was having a problem with nfs-kernel-server not starting at boot, and now I am seeing that postfix doesn't start either16:16
wild_oscarI've posted about the nfs-kernel-server bug on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nfs-utils/+bug/45504516:17
ubot4Launchpad bug 455045 in nfs-utils "nfs-kernel-server doesn't start automatically at startup" [Undecided,New]16:17
wild_oscarbut there doesn't seem to be much interest about it...16:17
hggdhwild_oscar: we are near release, everybody is busy. Unless it is a kitten-killer, you will not get attention right now16:22
wild_oscarhggdh: hmm...having services like postfix or nfs starting at boot seems pretty important on a linux distro, though16:26
hggdhI agree. On the other hand, I do not have this issue...16:27
wild_oscarhggdh: alright...16:28
wild_oscarhggdh: just for me to try to fix it on my own, could you tell me where, aside from syslog, I could find any error logs about services not starting16:30
wild_oscarpostfix, nfs-kernel and portmap (because it is because of portmap not starting that nfs doesn't start)16:31
hggdhso may be the issue is with portmap16:34
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mbtHi, I have found a critical bug in 9.10 Server release candidate.  I have no known fix, and I need it to be seen by people.  It is bug 460153. Any ideas on how to get that looked at ASAP?18:32
ubot4Launchpad bug 460153 in mountall "mountall on karmic server install fails" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/46015318:32
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Armageddonok, I need a little help to file a bug report please19:03
BUGabundoArmageddon: shoot19:03
Armageddon2 problems since Jaunty, laptop does not shutdown restarts on -h, I have to do -H and shutdown manually or it will restart, and bluetooth does not work even though it is recognized by the kernel as I can see in dmesg19:04
BUGabundoArmageddon:  have you looked on launchpad?19:05
Armageddonyea a long time ago19:05
Armageddonthey had this application that was stopped for Phoenix BIOS19:05
BodsdaHi20:14
nightwishhmm nice, after upgrade to karmic, my crypted /home causes bootup trouble. i'm asked for passphrase, but before i have the chance to enter it completely and hit return, mountall throws a bunch of error messages and i get a sulogin prompt. didn't find similar reports in launchpad yet, but i remember there was some crypto-related bug mentioned in the rc announcement. not sure wether this is related20:28
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lfaraoneIf a problem in libFoo affects package bar and baz, should bar and baz be marked using "also affects" on that bug?22:02
greg-glfaraone: no, if updating libFoo is all that is needed to fix the issues in bar and baz22:03
lfaraonegreg-g: okay, thought so.22:03
greg-gif, however, there needs to be additional changes to bar and baz, then... yeah, you get it22:03
VXxedHi!  I have a problem.22:13
VXxedI don't know/think my acpi stuff is loading correctly, or at all.22:13
VXxedThe only indication of this that I have is that my fans on my laptop do not spin, there is nothing in /proc/acpi/thermal_zone and /proc/acpi/fanspeed/, and that after setting up lm-sensor successfully (I think), running sensor gives me nothing at all, other than mainboard temp and cpu temp being 0C22:15
VXxedI'm running this on 9.10, and using Phoenix BIOS version 1.0522:15
VXxedIs anyone active/available?22:42
micahgVXxed: sure22:42
VXxedAwesome.22:43
VXxedSo22:43
VXxedI don't know if my acpi stuff is loading properly, if at all.22:43
VXxedThe fans on my laptop are not spinning22:43
micahgwhich version of Ubunut?22:43
VXxedI'm now running 9.10 on a Fujitsu T4020D with Phoenix BIOS version 1.0522:44
VXxedAfter trying to set up lm-sensor, and running sensor, all I got was "cpu" and "mainboard" temp, both listed at 0C22:44
micahgok, I suggest checking in #ubuntu+1 for support, they can probably get you going...if you end up finding a bug, come back and we can help you file it22:45
VXxedErm, this was also a point on 9.04, which is why I even ended up on 9.1022:45
VXxedAll I knew at that point was though that the fans weren't spinning, and 9.10 fixed that for somebody else22:46
micahgyeah, I don't know much about that, see if it's a known issue in #ubuntu+1 and if they have a fix22:47
VXxedAlright, thanks22:47
micahgI can help you file a bug if they either don't know or say it's an unknown bug22:47
VXxedAlright, thanks.  I've been trying to fix this issue all day now22:49
VXxedI started off in ubuntu+1 but nobody would respond so I went from "my fan isn't working" to "I'm pretty sure my acpi isn't loading right, I heard phoenix bios and linux don't cooperate too well"22:50
micahgok22:50
micahgwell, sunday is usually a slow day as most of the people are off22:50
VXxedAh, fair enough.22:51
VXxedBy the way22:52
VXxedI've heard talk about forcing acpi to load in the kernel..something.22:52
VXxedDo you know anything about that?22:52
micahgno, sorry, I usually triage Firefox22:53
micahgyou can check in #ubuntu-kernel and see if anyone22:53
micahg's around22:53
VXxedAlright22:53
micahgI wish I could help more22:53
VXxedEh, don't worry about it.  At the very least, you've responded22:55
VXxedMore than what I've gotten for most of today :P22:55
micahgthat much I can do :)22:56
hggdh_VXxed: look at the kernel boot parameters - /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.31/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt23:25
VXxedAbout to do it now23:26
VXxedIn process of bootup23:26
hggdh_there are some options dealing with ACPI there. Also, some ACPI implementations a quite hosed... but I do not deal with ACPI anymore, been out for the last 3 years23:27
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VXxedI don't see kernel-parameters in documentation23:28
hggdhin the source tree?23:29
VXxedYeah23:29
VXxed/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.31-14/Documentation23:29
VXxedOnly file is Makefile23:29
hggdhnot headers23:29
hggdh*source*23:29
VXxedThere isn't one..23:30
VXxedJust linux-headers-2.6.31-14 and the same -generic23:30
hggdhapt-get install linux-source && tar -xjf /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.31.tar.bz223:30
hggdhthen you will have it23:30
VXxedIs there a space on either side of the &&?23:31
ehasenlespace does not matter23:32
VXxedAlright23:32
VXxedAny reason why I didn't already have this?23:32
wild_oscarhggdh: around? can you confirm to me you have postfix, portmap and nfs-kernel-server running?23:32
ehasenlelinux-source is not installed by default AFAIK23:33
wild_oscarI've added a test case to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nfs-utils/+bug/45504523:33
ubot4Launchpad bug 455045 in nfs-utils "nfs-kernel-server doesn't start automatically at startup" [Undecided,New]23:33
hggdhwild_oscar: I am here, will check23:33
hggdhVXxed: you have to install linux-source23:33
wild_oscarso someone can see if the issue is caused by having all these at once23:33
wild_oscar(comment 4)23:33
hggdhwild_oscar: I do not have nfs-kernel-server. I do not use NFS at all.23:34
wild_oscarI've just tested it. postfix runs alright. if I install nfs-kernel-server, none of the 3 services will start at reboot. they will start if I start them manually (only constraint is that portmap starts before nfs-kernel-server)23:34
VXxedI now have the .tar.bz2 in /usr/src/23:34
wild_oscarif I remove nfs-kernel-server and reboot, postfix starts at boot without a problem23:35
hggdhVXxed: cd /usr/src && tar -xjf linux-source-*.tar.bz223:35
wild_oscarhggdh: can you quickly try the test case?23:35
hggdhlet me look at iut23:35
VXxedUn-tar-ing it now23:36
ehasenlewild_oscar: is nfs available in the process listing? (ps ax|grep nfs)23:36
wild_oscarehasenle: when?23:37
ehasenleupon reboot, before doing nfs restart23:37
wild_oscarehasenle: let me check23:37
wild_oscar(rebooting)23:38
VXxedI'm now looking at kernel parameters23:39
ehasenleI have it installed karmic as a KVM image and nfsd appears to run from the beginning23:39
VXxedWhat would you like to know?23:40
wild_oscarehasenle: I have a couple of processes, yes - http://pastebin.com/d3b36a9c523:40
wild_oscarwhy do I have a " /bin/sh /etc/rc2.d/S20nfs-kernel-server start" process?23:40
ehasenleyep, seems to hang23:41
wild_oscardoes this mean the start process is stuck?23:41
ehasenleat least the nfs part23:41
ehasenleappears to23:41
wild_oscarand how is this related to postfix not starting?23:41
ehasenlemaybe postfix has a dependency on nfs23:42
ehasenleso it is only started after nfs starting is finished?23:42
wild_oscarehasenle: postfix? no, it doesn't start at all. only when I manually "service postfix start"23:43
wild_oscarafter booting23:43
ehasenledoes nfs start?23:43
wild_oscarnfs? as in, nfs-client?23:44
wild_oscarI don't have the client23:44
ehasenleno, the server23:44
ehasenleturbo23:44
wild_oscarisn't that nfs-kernel-server?23:44
ehasenlesorry, wrong window23:44
VXxedhggdh: Alright, I'm looking at kernel-parameters.txt.  What would you like to know?23:44
wild_oscarehasenle: isn't nfs-kernel-server the nfs server?23:45
ehasenleyep nfs-kernel-server still does not run, right?23:45
wild_oscarno...23:45
wild_oscaras said in the bug report, it does not start. it only start if I manually "service portmap start" and afterwards "service nfs-kernel-server start"23:46
wild_oscarit starts *then*...23:46
wild_oscarI don't know if nfs-kernel-server depends on portmap23:47
wild_oscarie, it seems to, as "# Required-Start:    $remote_fs nfs-common $portmap $time" is in the init.d script23:48
wild_oscarif so, shouldn't nfs-kernel-server have a different priority?23:48
ehasenleah, i kicked into the discussion because I have read the bug report this morning23:48
ehasenlebut cannot reproduce it on my virtual machine23:49
wild_oscarehasenle: did you do the steps in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nfs-utils/+bug/455045/comments/4 ?23:49
ubot4Launchpad bug 455045 in nfs-utils "nfs-kernel-server doesn't start automatically at startup" [Undecided,New]23:49
ehasenleI have already nfs-kernel-server installed, do you thing it is sufficient to deinstall first?23:50
hggdhwild_oscar: yes, portmap should start before nfs-kernel-server23:50
wild_oscaroh, hang on...right now I'm looking at sysv-rc-conf and portmap doesn't seem to be configured to start23:51
wild_oscarjust to confirm, is it " update-rc.d portmap defaults" ?23:51
wild_oscarehasenle: if you can try it...23:51
wild_oscarthen do an apt-get autoremove23:52
wild_oscarwhich should autoremove portmap23:52
VXxedhggdh?23:52
hggdhyes?23:52
VXxedI am now looking at that text file23:52
wild_oscar(why on earth isn't portmap configured to start at boot when you install nfs-kernel-server??)23:52
VXxedWhat would you like me to do now?23:52
ehasenlefor me it starts successfully23:53
hggdhVXxed: look at the ACPI options, and start trying them to see if your boot gets better23:53
ehasenlei mean portmap23:53
VXxedAh.  How do I insert them into wherever?23:53
hggdhwhen you start/reboot your machine you should get either the GRUB or GRUB2 boot screen23:54
VXxedMine seems to shoot right past that23:54
VXxedUnless I hit something23:54
hggdhthen hit something ;-)23:54
VXxedYar, and it'll be obvious from there?23:54
hggdhyou have to edit the boot command line, and add the options you are going to try23:55
wild_oscarehasenle: could you please confirm which checkboxes are checked when you run sysv-rc-conf for the line portmap, please?23:55
VXxedAnother command I don't know...23:55
hggdh?23:56
ehasenlei need a moment (rebooting)23:56
VXxedAlso.  I searched for "fan" and the only thing that seems relevant was i8k.restricted, which was "Allow controlling fans only if SYS_ADMIN capability is set."  Should I try the i8k.force command to activate the i8k driver regardless of signature match?23:56
hggdhVXxed: I have no idea of what i8k is. If it is hardware, no, it is really not a good idea to overload different hardware23:57
VXxedAlright.23:58
ehasenlewild_oscar: there are no "X" for portmap23:58
VXxedHow do I edit the boot command line from there?23:58
ehasenlebut it is started correctly upon reboot23:58
wild_oscarehasenle: even not in the "s" column?23:59
hggdhVXxed: click on 'e', then use arrows to position yourself, and type/delete/backspace as needed. Then... varies, if you are running grub or grub223:59
VXxedDo you know what acpi_apic_instance= is?23:59
VXxedRather, what's the apic table23:59
ehasenleno, not even there23:59
ehasenle(its a capital S)23:59

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