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DivineOmegaJust fixed an issue in gwibber on Karmic - https://bugs.launchpad.net/gwibber/+bug/46006900:33
ubottuLaunchpad bug 460069 in gwibber "Large font size, cannot be changed or overridden" [Undecided,Confirmed]00:33
DivineOmegaAny chance this could get into Karmic?00:38
ScottKFor a bug fix it's not too late.00:38
ScottKMy plate is full, but perhaps another MOTU could sponsor it.00:39
DivineOmegaAh okay. I'm new to submitting of bugs.00:39
DivineOmegaIt is a very minor patch.00:39
ScottKAttach the patch to the bug and subscribe ubuntu-universe-sponsors00:40
LaneyI believe asac and kenvandine are interested in gwibber00:40
DivineOmegaScottK: I've attached the patch already, I shall subscribe ubuntu-universe-sponsors now.00:41
Laneyyou could speak to them00:41
DivineOmegaasac: Interested in my little gwibber aesthetics patch? https://bugs.launchpad.net/gwibber/+bug/46006900:43
ubottuLaunchpad bug 460069 in gwibber "Large font size, cannot be changed or overridden" [Undecided,Confirmed]00:43
jdongindeed that's a remarkably simple fix, though it's curious why the +2 was in there in the first place00:43
DivineOmegajdong: Indeed. It seems very odd. The sole function of it appears to be an offset from the system default font. Very strange.00:44
Laneyhence why someone familiar with the code should check00:44
DivineOmegajdong: If you've tried it though, you have to admit it makes gwibber look a lot nicer.00:44
jdongDivineOmega: as Laney said, why we'd rather hear from someone familiar with the codebase before pushing the upload button00:45
LaneyDivineOmega: you could also try #gwibber00:45
Laneyif this really is the right fix it should be upstream to anyway00:45
Laneytoo*00:45
jdongDivineOmega: but bugfixes are never too late to get into Karmic, rest assured. Even if RC->Final is missed, this is a perfect candidate for -proposed through a SRU00:45
DivineOmegaLaney: Of course. This was my first look at the gwibber source, so admitedly, I may be overlooking something.00:45
DivineOmegajdong: SRU?00:46
jdong!sru00:46
ubottuStable Release Update information is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates00:46
jdongthe -updates repository00:46
DivineOmegajdong: Ah, okay. Thanks.00:46
MTecknologyis there any channel for people learning to be motu?00:58
ari-tczewhere?01:00
jmarsdenMTecknology: This one should be fine for that; quite a few people here are not (yet?) MOTUs.01:01
ari-tczewlike me :P01:01
MTecknologyok, I didn't know if there was another channel for that01:01
MTecknologyI need to apply for a mentor, I'd still like to learn more first01:02
RoAkSoAxMTecknology, the mentor is only gonna guide.. :)01:04
RoAkSoAxguide you*01:04
MTecknologyRoAkSoAx: ya- and I'd like to know most of how everythin goes first so the mentor just spends a week or two saying, "no, do it this way instead"01:05
dbernar1Where does debconf pull the strings it presents to the user from?01:06
dbernar1I mean, something like db_get phpmyadmin/setup-password01:06
dbernar1Where does that get it's string to present to the user?01:07
porthose<packagename>.templates01:07
RoAkSoAxMTecknology, that's pretty much how I spent my mentorship :) I just worked and worked and worked and when I had doubts, I just asked here or my mentor, and that's it. It won't matter if you know everything, as long as what you know, you do it very good, check everything, etc01:07
porthosedebian/<packagename>.templates :)01:08
dbernar1porthose: and that is included in the source of the package?01:09
dbernar1Cause I don't see it.01:09
porthoseit's part of the debian dir01:09
dbernar1Found it.01:10
porthose:)01:10
dbernar1It is named templates.01:11
dbernar1in the debian dir01:11
porthoseit can also name it as above, some just use templates :)01:12
dbernar1Ya, thank you.01:13
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porthosegod I cant type tonight :\01:14
dbernar1Is there any other place there could be more strings?01:20
dbernar1I seem to be missing some01:20
lfaraoneHey, is it too late to get sponsorship for the upload of medium-priority-fixes (in Debian it'd be "grave) which are new-upstream-versions for Universe? (bug 459535)01:26
ubottuLaunchpad bug 459535 in checkgmail "Can't login: need new SVN snapshot" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/45953501:26
jdong_something that the MOTU release team has to decide...01:31
lfaraonejdong_: basically, as is, the package is unable to authenticate to gmail.01:32
jdong_understood.01:32
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lfaraonejdong: basically, the only code that's changed is that related to logins and message polling.01:33
jdonghaha well you can tell me all of this, but I don't posess any of the magical powers to make it happen :)01:33
jdongyou should probably try to capture a ScottK or similar.01:34
* lfaraone casts his net.01:34
* lfaraone misses ScottK by a few hours.01:34
sistpotyhi folks01:41
ari-tczewhello01:42
sistpotyhi ari-tczew01:42
dbernar11Where can the templates for debconf db_get be stored?01:42
sistpotydbernar11: in debian/01:43
dbernar11is there any other place?01:43
sistpotydbernar11: what do you have in mind?01:43
dbernar11It is just that a db_get invocation calls phpmyadmin/dbconfig-install, and I can not see that in the templates file in the phpmyadmin package01:44
ScottKlfaraone: Go ahead get it uploaded01:45
sistpotyScottK: have you processed the syncs byhand or do you have a way to do that with your ubuntu-archive hat on nowadays?01:47
lfaraoneScottK: yessir. /me greps for a sponsor.01:47
ScottKsistpoty: By hand with syncpackage01:47
dbernar11And I see the input screen with the text, but I can not figure out where the text comes from.01:47
sistpotyScottK: should I sync nexuiz-data? (I could abuse fast university network :))01:48
ScottKsistpoty: Yes.  Please.01:48
sistpotyScottK: ok, will do it, thanks01:48
porthosedbernar11, it may be part of the dbconf-common package01:48
porthosedbernar11, it has pre translated strings that it uses to ask questions from the user01:49
dbernar11where does it have them?01:50
porthosenot sure you would have to look at the source :(01:50
sistpotyScottK: stupid question: where can I find syncpackage?01:51
ScottKsistpoty: Traditionally it pitti's people directory01:52
ScottKit/in01:52
sistpotythanks!01:52
ScottKI can mail it to you if you can't find it.01:52
sistpotyScottK: already got it, and also found the dpkg-genchanges call I was looking for :)01:54
sistpoty(which is rather nasty! *g*)01:54
ScottKsistpoty: Would you please figure out what to do about Bug 444527 ?01:54
lfaraonejdong: you're a MOTU, right? think you could sponsor this?01:54
ubottuLaunchpad bug 444527 in geda-gattrib "FTBFS? (Perhaps upgrade to gEDA 1.6.0)" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/44452701:54
sistpotyScottK: since we can't sync 1.6, I fear we won't manage to package 1.6, so I'd prefer to stay with 1.4 and grab the fix from the bug01:57
ScottKsistpoty: OK.01:57
sistpotyto package all of 1.6 to be exact01:57
ScottKPlease do.01:57
sistpotyon my list :)01:57
ScottKsistpoty: Is qtiplot on your list for tonight?01:19
sistpotyScottK: yes, given that you're ok with the embedded copy01:20
ScottKsistpoty: Not ideal, but builds is better than not.01:20
sistpotyof libqwt3d01:20
ScottKYeah01:20
sistpoty*nod*, as I fear porting to the new API would be more than I can do in the few hours01:21
* ScottK nods01:21
sistpotyScottK: FYI: I've added a build1 version for nexuiz-data (just uploading), since I saw that fteqcc failed to upload (both were uploaded from fuddl to unstable)01:27
ScottKsistpoty: OK.01:28
ScottKI'll do nexuiz itself is ~ 75 minutes after fteqcc has published.01:28
sistpotyoh, -data also b-d on fteqcc (versioned build-dep though, so I assume it'll dep-wait once accepted)01:29
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ScottKI'll wait to accept it, just in case.01:37
sistpotyexcellent, thanks!01:38
ScottKsistpoty: How come you didn't merge with unstable for lmms?01:39
ari-tczewdevs I got a question01:39
sistpotyScottK: we've got the vst plugin split off (iirc to not draw in wine to ubuntustudio cd's), which was preserved in the ppa, so merging from unstable seemed like more error prone than to reuse the tested version from the ppa01:40
wgrantScottK: How is LP treating you lately?01:40
ScottKsistpoty: OK.  Makes sense.01:40
sistpotyScottK: and it was somewhat easier :)01:40
ScottKOK01:40
ari-tczewin drupal5 has been added a patch to enabled modrewrite01:41
ari-tczew-  # RewriteBase /drupal01:41
ari-tczew+  RewriteBase /drupal501:41
ari-tczewis it needed to drupal6 too?01:41
ScottKari-tczew: Check the code.01:42
ScottKsistpoty: Accepted.01:42
sistpotyScottK: thanks01:42
ari-tczewdefault in drupal6's code is modrewrite disabled01:43
ari-tczew # RewriteBase /drupal01:43
ari-tczewand there is no 02_htaccess.dpatch01:43
ari-tczewso I don't know whether is it necessary or not?01:44
sistpotyari-tczew: maybe testing the package might give a hint if it's needed?01:45
ari-tczewI found bug #453559 I guess that it's related to this no-existing patch01:45
ubottuLaunchpad bug 453559 in drupal6 "Drupal6 MysQL and parse error" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/45355901:45
ari-tczewwithout testing I think that patch is needed, as it's reported in this bug01:48
ari-tczewcomment: I suspect the .htaccess files are missing or incorrect because tinkering with it made the parser error change in another error, but then again: "I know nothing, I am from Barcelona".01:49
ScottKfta or asac: Would one of you please take care of getting Bug #246822 uploaded?01:49
ubottuLaunchpad bug 246822 in prism "FFe - Prism should be updated to new upstream version 1.0b1" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/24682201:49
micahgScottK: I'm still working on the package for prism01:53
micahgcutoff is noon UTC?01:54
ScottKmicahg: OK.  Yes.01:54
ScottKWe can fudge it a bit if needed.01:54
micahgok, I hope to have it done in the next couple of hours01:55
ScottKOK01:55
ScottKmicahg: I'd also appreciate it if someone from mozillateam could look at Bug #217908 and let me know if there's anything for motu-release to do on that one.  My sense is not, but it's confusing.02:34
ubottuLaunchpad bug 217908 in cairo "FFe: Pixellated Images in Firefox/Opera due to incorrect EXTEND_PAD implementation in several video drivers" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21790802:34
micahgwell, fta and asac are asleep02:35
micahgbut I can ask asac when I talk to him later02:35
micahgapparently upstream is still working on it02:37
ScottKOK.  Thanks.02:38
micahgScottK: can you help me understand a line of a .mk file?02:53
sistpotymicahg: can you paste the line somewhere03:01
sistpoty?03:01
micahghttp://pastebin.ubuntu.com/300984/03:01
micahgit just checks to see if it's set?03:02
wrapsteris there a way i can measure the throughput of my hard disk?03:02
sistpotymicahg: rather if $(XPI_FILE) exists (and errors out if not)03:02
micahgok, so if it doesn't exist, it echo's the message?03:03
sistpotymicahg: yes03:03
micahgok03:03
micahggreat thank03:03
sistpotyyw03:03
micahgnow I have to figure out why it can't find the file :)03:03
sistpotywrapster: yes, bonni++03:03
wrapster?03:04
wrapstersistpoty: what is it?03:04
sistpotyerm, bonnie++ even (package)03:04
wrapsterog it03:04
wrapstergot it...03:04
wrapsterok there is no man page?03:05
sistpotyoh, try --help (don't recall the details, sorry, was some time since I last tried it)03:07
wrapstersistpoty: nope03:07
wrapstersistpoty: i tried this.. bonnie -d /test_bonnie -s 24000 -html03:12
sistpotywrapster: as I wrote, I'm sorry, but I don't recall the details :(03:13
wrapsterhmm03:13
wrapstersistpoty: is there an irc for this?03:15
wrapsteranywhere else i could ask for help?03:15
sistpotyno idea actually03:15
wrapsterok but at least can you tell me why even after creating a new partition fdisk -l is not recognising it?03:18
wrapsterto test bonnie with 24G i had to create a new partition , did so. created  a 40G partition.. but fdisk -l is not listing it.03:19
wrapsterfor me to mount03:19
sistpotywrapster: that's strange actually, as I assume that fdisk -l just reads the partition table from the mbr03:20
wrapsteryeah....03:20
sistpotywrapster: of course you can't mount it since there's no FS yet03:21
sistpotybut fdisk should actually list it03:21
sistpotywrapster: you did call fdisk -l <devicetoharddisk>, did you? (w.o. the device I just saw that it won't print anything)03:32
wrapstersistpoty: i got it working..03:33
sistpoty:)03:33
wrapsterim guessing that a flush was not completed that it was not being reconginzed03:33
wrapsterrunning bonnie as well :)03:33
wrapsterfor a test of 24G03:33
wrapsteri just want to see the throughput of my baraccuda03:33
wrapstersistpoty: performing builds on this machine takes too long.. I have a 6G ram 2.4Ghz dual core03:34
wrapster7200rpm disk .. yet its crawls.03:34
sistpotyhm, you should have a better box than me then ;)03:35
sistpotydear qtiplot, why just do you create me pains over pains by just not wanting to build whatever I try. kthxbye03:36
dbernar1Hi, I see there are several bugs open for the package phpmyadmin, basically people trying to install it before they installed mysql, and the install fails. When the installer asks them retry/abort/ignore for the error about not being able to interact with mysql, if they choose retry apport opens up and they report this bug.03:53
dbernar1It was suggested to me that the right solution would be to detect this within the installation script, and allow the user to perhaps install the package.03:55
dbernar1Well, anyway, lost my point about where I was going with this...03:55
* dbernar1 is an airhead03:56
ScottKwgrant: To answer your question.  About the same as always.  The biggest change is it's even less compatible with my web browser of choice than it has been historically (that is, however, more Konqueror's fault than Launchpad's)04:05
wgrantScottK: How are the +queue timeouts?04:08
ScottKwgrant: Still having them every now and then, but better than they were.04:08
ScottKIt's been a while since I hit a package I couldn't accept at all if I did it by itself.04:09
wgrantGreat.04:09
wgrantThey're working on more speed improvements there.04:09
ScottKI'm on hiatus from reporting LP bugs again though.04:11
ScottKIf I stop to care much about it, I find it so frustrating the complete crap they are doing that my bug reporting is excessively sarcastic and unfriendly.04:12
wgrantYes, it gets that way.04:13
* sistpoty gave up some while ago... asking question (via lp) usually leads to much better results than arguing that the ui doesn't indicate what I've got to click to get things done04:14
wgrantsistpoty: Feel free to whine at me with specifics, and I will see what I can do.04:16
ScottKwgrant: A lot of the U/I problems would get better if they would just stop changing it.04:17
sistpotywgrant: e.g. how can I mark a bug to affect another package?04:17
ScottKThe combination of iconification and rearranging stuff is just about impossible.04:17
wgrantsistpoty: 'Also affects distribution'04:18
wgrantThey know that sucks.04:18
sistpotywgrant: heh, I didn't try that, because it doesn't affect, well... another distribution ;)04:18
ScottKwgrant: Then why do they do it?04:19
ScottKBefore 1.0 it was "Hey, we aren't 1.0 yet.", but now ....04:19
wgrantScottK: Because it has been like that for more than four years.04:19
wgrantOh, the UI changes in general.04:20
wgrantI don't kno.04:20
wgrant3.0 makes more sense than 2.0. I don't know if it makes more sense than 1.0.04:20
sistpotyI mean I'm down to the level where I believe that I'm doing something wrong with the UI so I ask a question. most of the time I'm doing s.th. wrong, since things changed and I didn't notice04:21
* sistpoty gets mad at qtiplot and loses some hope to fix it before FinalFreeze04:24
wgrantIIRC 4.0 won't have a full new UI, which is good.04:24
sistpotycool :)04:24
wgrantHowever, they are rethinking the bug page at the moment.04:26
sistpotywgrant: oh, security pet bug of mine: I'm sometimes fiddling with bugs at work and would like to change status... how can I do this in a secure manner (other people have root accounts to the box)04:27
wgrantsistpoty: You can't!04:27
sistpotycrap, /me hope noone steals my lp cookie (I know who has root and trust these)04:28
sistpotyimo the whole browser cookie thingy (which can be used to change e.g. the gpg keys) is the weakest link in the authentication chain04:29
wgrantRight.04:29
wgranteg. I just need to steal ScottK's cookie, and I can push out lots of malicious updates in just a few minutes.04:30
sistpotytrue04:30
wgrantIt is more than a bit scary.04:31
virtualdLet them eat cake04:31
macosistpoty: email interface for bugs?04:53
sistpotymaco: didn't work with unsigned mails?04:53
macoset up your clietnt to sign emails?04:53
sistpotymaco: tried to sign mails, how to register that with lp?04:54
macoyou have your gpg key setup in lp?04:54
macojust email: 12345@bugs.launchpad.net to change stuff in a bug (obviously substituting in the proper number)04:55
sistpotymaco: sure that's my *signing key* for packages... of course my work key (which anyone with root rights can get access to) must never be setup to upload packages04:55
macoits possible to set >1 key in lp, isnt it?04:55
macocan you set 1 to be your signing key for pkgs and the other to be just for emails?04:56
sistpotymaco: last time I tried, I've seen that any key is treated equal, so no04:56
macooh boo04:56
maconow there's a feature request.....04:56
sistpotyyes :)04:56
* sistpoty gives a last shot at qtiplot, and probably gives up then due to lack of sleep04:59
sistpoty:(04:59
ScottKTheMuso: Accepted ubuntustudio-meta, so you should be good.05:02
micahghow do you expand a % in a makefile target?05:11
sistpotymicahg: % is pretty much like * in shell, so every file (or rule iirc) fitting it will match05:14
sistpotyso "make someting" with "%: " will expand % to "something"05:15
micahghmm: I have something like install-%-stamp: as a target in the file and install-refractor.xpi-stamp as the item it needs to target05:16
micahgI get the error target not found05:16
sistpotywhich probably means that install-refractor.xpi-stamp doesn't exist05:20
micahgright, but install-%-stamp does05:20
sistpotymicahg: you mean file with a "%" in it?05:21
micahgno, inside the make file is the target listed05:21
sistpotyyes, than % gets expanded to the middle part (so the target is nstall-refractor.xpi-stamp in this case)05:22
sistpoty+i05:23
micahgbut it says target not found...05:23
micahgsorry, no rule to make target05:23
micahgthats what it says05:23
sistpotythat's strange... maybe http://www.gnu.org/software/make/manual/make.html.gz#index-g_t_0040code_007b_0025_007d_002c-in-pattern-rules-909 will shed some light?05:27
sistpotyScottK: sorry, qtiplot completely escapes me, and I need some sleep now, so no fix from me before FF :(05:28
ScottKsistpoty: OK.  Well if you can't figure it, I doubt I'll have much luck.05:29
ScottKWe can still manually approve stuff, so it's not final yet.05:29
ScottKsistpoty: Good night.05:29
sistpotyScottK: I can't even figure what went wrong... it boils down to debian bug 551222 (so I didn't find the root cause of it)05:30
ubottuDebian bug 551222 in unknown "qtiplot: FTBFS: make[2]: *** No rule to make target" [Serious,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/55122205:30
sistpotygn805:30
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micahganyone know what happened to the ubuntu-artwork directory?07:14
hyperairwhat ubuntu-artwork directory?07:17
micahgwell, /usr/share/ubuntu-artwork07:20
iulianScottK: Thanks a lot for the syncs.07:31
ScottKiulian: No problem.  I'm about to go pass out.  I'll reappear to hit accept for anything in queue at 1200 UTC, so please push fixes in.07:32
iulianScottK: OK, sleep well.07:33
hyperairmicahg: it still has things here07:40
hyperairthe ubuntu-docs package07:40
TheMusoScottK: thanks, hopefully I may have some powerpc FTBF fixes for you before the 1200 deadline .:008:17
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didrocksScottK: thanks for Quickly approval :)09:25
Laneywe didn't finalfreeze for universe yet, did we?09:38
wgrantLaney: 12UTC, IIRC.09:39
wgrantWhich is a little over 2 hours away.09:39
LaneyYes, good.09:40
LaneyWorried that my upload just now would have been naughty09:40
* hyperair coughs and attempts to plug bug #460303 before finalfreeze.10:39
ubottuLaunchpad bug 460303 in gnome-do-plugins "GNOME-Session does not lock screen prior to hibernating/suspending when using DK-Power" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/46030310:39
hyperairdebdiff should be appearing shortly, i just sent it via email10:39
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jetienneq. in the control file the "Depends:" line, is there a specific order for the packages, or any order will do ?10:48
ari-tczewif package is in main you can't depends on packages which exist in universe/multiverse10:50
jetienneari-tczew: ok, but inside the "Depends:" line itself, is there an order ? like "Depends: python, mysql" will work like "Depends: mysql, python" ?10:53
azeemAFAIK, it is not guaranteed that dpkg/apt install the Depends in any order10:53
azeemso yes, both should work equivalently10:53
jetienneok cool thax10:53
jetiennethanks10:53
RainCThttp://paste.ubuntu.com/301228/ any idea what's wrong here?11:09
azeemRainCT: what's the compile line?11:13
RainCTazeem: http://paste.ubuntu.com/301232/11:14
RainCTazeem: no idea?11:57
azeemRainCT: sorry, no :(11:57
azeemRainCT: well, except for the fact that apparently g++ tries to compile a (C?) .c file11:58
RainCTazeem: It's a C++ file (using <iostream>, cerr, etc.), upstream doesn't seem to know about extensions :P.11:59
azeemok12:00
ScottKOK, we're past final freeze, so all uploads need motu-release approval.  Bug fixes still wanted, particularly FTBFS fixes, so don't stop.12:02
* micahg is still working on Prism12:03
RainCTazeem: well, I'll leave it for someone else to figure out.. Thanks12:03
jetiennemicahg: firefox stuff ?12:14
micahgmozilla app, yes jetienne12:14
jetiennemicahg: any significant progress ? i have working on it a long while ago12:15
jetiennelike 2y ago :)12:15
micahgwhat Prism, we're trying to get the latest version in instead of the one from 2 years ago12:16
ari-tczewis exist anywhere tool/script to converting simple patches to dpatch?12:17
jetiennehttp://prism.mozilla.com/features/ <- oh yeah they got closure to air12:18
jetiennesystray, notification, launchonlogin12:19
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micahgScottK: according to asac, bug 217908 needs to be fixed upstream by mozilla, so the current fix works with the latest X server12:36
ubottuLaunchpad bug 217908 in cairo "FFe: Pixellated Images in Firefox/Opera due to incorrect EXTEND_PAD implementation in several video drivers" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21790812:36
micahgoh, he also said, hard to pick patch without it being landed upstream12:37
ari-tczewis anybody here from MOTU-SRU?12:49
jetiennemvo is the one handling apt-get code, correct ?12:51
iulianHmm.12:54
* iulian looks at ScottK 12:54
iulianIs 4 hours of sleep enough for you?12:54
RainCTjetienne: yes12:57
jetienneRainCT: thx12:57
ari-tczewiulian: could you splite (separate) bug on lp for jaunty and karmic? bug #37118712:57
ubottuLaunchpad bug 371187 in drupal6 "clean URL not enabled" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/37118712:57
ari-tczewI'm not a member of any team where can bug control12:58
ari-tczew:-/12:58
ari-tczewnow is generally bug affected to drupal6, I need separate it for jaunty and karmic12:59
iulianYou can do that by yourself, I think.13:00
iulianIs that bug fixed in Karmic?13:00
ari-tczewnope, so I want to separate for karmic too13:00
ari-tczewand I'm preparing debdiff for fix it13:00
ari-tczewI can permission only for "Nominate for release"13:01
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ari-tczewI need to talk with someone who can take me to the team ubuntu-bugcontrol, because it is frustrating not be able to exercise fully work.13:04
iulianWell, you should've attached the debdiff first and then subscribe motu-sru.  Please attach the debdiff as soon as possible and once the bug is fixed in Karmic, open a Jaunty task as well.13:05
iulianI believe there's a wiki page explaining how to join ubuntu-bugcontrol.13:06
ari-tczewdebdiff will attach in other bug (security issue) for jaunty13:06
iulianThen why you subscribed motu-sru to that bug?13:07
* iulian is confused a bit.13:07
ari-tczewdon't panic, in few minutes I'll attach debdiff for karmic13:07
micahgiulian: bug control cannot open versioned tasks13:08
micahgI think it's either motu or core-dev13:08
ari-tczewby the way, motu-sru replying to a very long time13:09
RainCTUploaders can approve nominations.13:09
ari-tczewI always need to sending mails to members of motu-sru13:09
RainCT(so MOTU for universe/multiverse, Core Dev for main/restricted)13:09
ari-tczewso I need to joint MOTU in future13:10
ari-tczewjoin*13:10
RainCTbut I don't think that nominations and bug tasks are the same13:10
RainCTcan't remember how to create the later though :/13:11
micahgnominations anyone can make13:11
ari-tczewiulian: but if debdiff will upload for karmic, lp will close bug automatically, so I need to open task for jaunty & karmic now13:12
ari-tczewperhaps someone else from MOTU can open task?13:22
hyperairdoes anyone here play some d3d using game on wine on intel graphics on karmic?13:44
DktrKranziulian: do FTBFS fixes require preventive motu-release approval, or they can be uploaded to unapproved, and then approved?13:52
iulianDktrKranz: The latter.13:53
DktrKranzcool13:53
asac__ScottK: hey. prism is now uploaded. i double checked it to work properly now ... so dont get scared by the changelog ;)14:14
asac__probably needs a new more minutes to get in queue14:15
jetienneq. i would like to help the user to create mysql user i need. so to put something in the postinst or something ? is there an existing example i could copy ?14:43
porthosejetienne, phpmyadmin uses dbconfig-common have a look it may help you :)14:48
RainCTI've just written a little script.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/301343/ - WDYT?14:59
jetienneporthose: thanks15:00
RainCTas the initial setup before you can start doing packaging stuff usually takes quite some time (eg. look at the sessions during UDW), I've though having a script to help with this may be helpful. (I still plan to add other stuff to it: creating a pbuilder-dist environment for the devel release, etc.).15:01
* iulian has written something similar for himself.15:03
RainCTiulian: maybe there's something useful in there you could add to mine?15:04
sebnerRainCT: what's that useful for?15:07
RainCTsebner: I've just said it.. :P15:07
iulianRainCT: Not really.  You've done it nicer.15:07
sebnerRainCT: ah, more for new contributors?15:08
RainCTsebner: yeah15:08
sebnerkk nice15:08
sebnerRainCT: concentrate on fixing FTBFS instead! :P15:08
RainCTiulian: took much more time than I wanted, though :P15:08
iulianHeh :)15:08
RainCTsebner: why fix FTBFS if you can train slaves to fix them? *g*15:08
sebnerRainCT: I'm wondering if there are still any around :P15:09
DktrKranzsebner: merge pycentral + cdbs, and you'll fix 90 in a row :P15:11
sebnerDktrKranz: tell iulian and ScottK . They'll approve :P15:12
DktrKranzI think we're to late for those intrusive changes15:13
DktrKranz*too15:13
sebnernahhh15:13
sebnerstill plenty of time15:13
sebner:D15:13
DktrKranzbut I plan to do them when Lucid opens, so we should finally get rid of python 2.6 transition15:13
sebnerthen we can finally start python 3.1 transition  \o/15:15
sebner:P15:15
RainCTok, I've added it to ubuntu-dev-tools as setup-packaging-environment15:16
iuliansebner: Is the patch for stepic committed to SVN?15:19
iulianDktrKranz: What abput py-asterisk?15:19
iulians/abput/about/15:19
sebneriulian: well no, it's the same version as hardy and last svn commit was 1 year ago ;)15:20
sebneriulian: scottk brought it to debian though15:20
ScottKiulian: Not on a long term basis (4 hours of sleep).15:21
sebnerScottK: I fixed your package stepic :P15:22
iuliansebner: Do you have commit rights to DPMT?  I'd like to see it there.15:22
ScottKsebner: I noticed.15:23
ScottKiulian: I'll take care of that.15:23
sebneriulian: I'm afraid that I'm only in pkg-cli15:23
iulianScottK: Cool, thanks.15:23
ScottKasac__: I went ahead and accepted prism.  Given the short time before the archive gets locked down for release, please keep a close eye on bugs (and double check it builds)15:25
asac__ScottK: yes.15:25
asac__ScottK: the gwibber upload is a bit tricky ... it wasnt done using the patch system, and we hav a debian/ only patchsystem ... so replaying is tricky15:26
asac__so either i need to commit this upstream or do something about the packaging ...15:26
ScottKasac__: Oops.  Sorry about that.   It was late and I was tired.15:27
asac__not that its a real blocker15:27
asac__yeah15:27
asac__i am not even sure why upstream had that15:27
asac__it definitly does not fix the real bug15:27
asac__just he offset15:27
asac__adjustments15:27
asac__real bug: changeing font in ui does not work15:28
asac__i think i will upload a backout for that15:28
asac__as it just adjusts the offset ... which is rather a subjective thing15:29
asac__and imo we should follow what upstream decided on that15:29
asac__ok uploading the backout15:31
asac__ok uploaded ubuntu3 for gwibber which backs out that change. if its an issue we should do that upstream and as an sru15:33
asac__will open the bug again putting rational there15:34
ari-tczewquestion: can MOTU member unsubscribe motu-sru from bugs?15:35
ScottKasac__: Gwibber accepted.15:36
ScottKari-tczew: Only motu-sru can do it.15:36
jetienneq. is there a way to do sed inplace ? like i need to modify one of my config file automatically when upgrading the package15:36
ari-tczewso 3 members is not enough for motu-sru15:37
asac__ScottK: thx15:37
asac__gave instructions how to properly fix it15:37
jetiennedbconfig-common is not doc at all, grumble15:50
DktrKranziulian: my patch will be temporary, I hope to revert it when/if pycentral is fixed16:02
iulianDktrKranz: Oh, cool then.16:03
DktrKranz(for both packages)16:03
Zhenechjetienne, sed inplace? sed -i? :)16:14
jetienneZhenech: thanks, since i found it by mysql :)16:16
jetiennemyself!16:16
Zhenech:)16:16
sebnerUploading to ubuntu (via ftp to upload.ubuntu.com):16:39
sebnerConnection failed, aborting. Check your network [Errno 111] Connection refused16:39
sebneranybody else seeing this problem?=16:39
ScottKsebner: We've had several successful uploads in the last few hours.16:40
sebnerScottK: yeah, I did some too ;) Now I want to upload another ftbfs fix16:40
ScottKI'd say wait a few minutes and try again.16:40
sebnerI'm trying since 2 minutes but ok16:41
ScottKScream in #launchpad if it doesn't get better.16:43
sebneraye aye16:44
sebnerbad magic is preventing me to fix FTBFS *hahaha*16:44
iulianHmm.16:46
sebnerScottK: any successful uploads the last 15 minutes?16:56
ScottKNot that I know of16:56
sebnerkinda b0rken then16:58
sebner^^16:58
sebner:(16:58
sebnerScottK: DktrKranz also can't upload. B0000rken. 4 days before release :(17:01
ScottKUrgh.17:01
sebner#LP is also kinda dead17:02
sebnerWeekend17:02
sebner...17:02
iulianThat's bad.17:02
iulianSame error mesage?17:02
DktrKranzyes17:02
iulians/mesage/message/17:02
DktrKranzI opened a ftp session too, "connection failed"17:02
ScottKHow about #canonical-sysadmin17:03
* DktrKranz tries there17:03
* sebner looks17:03
sebnerhuhu jono17:09
jonohey sebner17:11
sebnerjono: let your might work and make soyuz work as we want to upload FTBFS fixes :D17:11
jonohehe17:12
jonogood luck!17:12
sebnerit seems you missed the point "your might" :P17:12
jonoeh?17:13
jonoI am not sure if I can help :)17:13
sebneryou are the mighty jono17:14
sebner^^17:14
jonohehe17:14
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ari-tczewcan someone from MOTU review this? bug #37118717:25
ubottuLaunchpad bug 371187 in drupal6 "clean URL not enabled" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/37118717:25
ari-tczewthere is a debdiff bugfix only for karmic17:27
sebnerScottK: iulian : Working again :D17:28
ScottKThanks.17:28
iulianAh, great!17:35
ScottKBug #460303 looks like an important fix to get in.  Would a MOTU please look at this for sponsorship?17:40
ubottuLaunchpad bug 460303 in gnome-do-plugins "GNOME-Session does not lock screen prior to hibernating/suspending when using DK-Power" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/46030317:40
sebnerScottK: laney is on it17:42
ScottKExcellent.17:42
porthoseis it to late to request a sync that is bug fix only changes, and also corrects FTBFS?17:42
ScottKporthose: Nope17:42
iulianporthose: No.17:42
porthoseOk ty :)17:42
iuliansebner: Please use requestsync instead of doing it manually (webgen0.4).17:47
sebneriulian: ah ok, I didn't know if syncs are still appropriate as they need longer to process than direct uploads17:48
* porthose builds it one more time before submitting bug :)17:48
ScottKsebner: I'd prefer you just ask for a sync.  We'll get them in, one way or another.17:48
iulianScottK: Please reject webgen0.4 from unapproved.17:48
sebnerheh, understood17:48
ScottKRejecting webgen17:48
ScottKIt's gone17:49
iulianporthose, sebner:  When done, please tell me the bug#.17:49
porthoseiulian, will do :)17:49
ScottKiulian: On Bug #419363, the package has neither reverse build depends nor rdepends, so I'm OK with either updating or removing.  Please have a look and see what you think.17:50
ubottuLaunchpad bug 419363 in jhbuild "jhbuild is heavily outdated, update it" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/41936317:50
ScottKBug #459535 is another one we definitely want, if some MOTU could review/upload.17:51
ubottuLaunchpad bug 459535 in checkgmail "Can't login: need new SVN snapshot" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/45953517:51
sebneriulian: bug #46056717:51
ubottuLaunchpad bug 460567 in webgen0.4 "Sync webgen0.4 0.4.7-3 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/46056717:51
* ScottK is off again for a while.17:52
jreinhardtHi everyone. When I tried to install epiphany-extensions-more I was bitten by bug #452845. I pulled the branch (the package is in bzr) and in the control file the dependencies are:17:53
jreinhardtepiphany-extensions (>= ${gnome:Version}),17:53
jreinhardtepiphany-extensions (<< ${gnome:NextVersion}),17:53
jreinhardtWhat is going wrong here?17:53
ubottuLaunchpad bug 452845 in epiphany-extensions-more "epiphany-extensions-more is not up to date in Karmic" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/45284517:53
porthoseiulian, bug#46056817:53
jreinhardtI will try to provide a fix, if someone can help me with it17:54
sebneriulian: I uploaded (tested it myself of course) checkgmail (what Scott propsed)18:05
iulianScottK: Honestly, I don't know what to say.  As far as I can see, Frederic wants it to be removed from the archive.18:10
iulianMaybe lool can enlighten us a bit about jhbuild?18:11
ScottKiulian: Did you review checkgmail?18:12
iulianScottK: No, was looking at jhbuild.  It seems that sebner has just uploaded it.18:12
ScottKOK.18:12
sebnerScottK: I tested it myself. fixes the issue, nothing else changed. So risk to break anything18:13
sebner*no risk18:13
ScottKsebner: OK.  I'll ack it based on that.18:14
ScottKiulian: I'm acking checkgmail.  No need to look at it18:14
iulianScottK: OK.18:14
ScottKsebner: Accepted.  Please keep an eye on it to make sure it builds and no new bugs come in18:15
av`jreinhardt, it's broken on Debian as well18:15
av`jreinhardt, we actually need a new upstream release since control says epiphany-extensions (>= ${gnome:Version})18:15
sebnerScottK: aye aye18:15
* ScottK is off again for a while.18:15
av`jreinhardt, so we should need >= 2.27 since we have 2.26 now18:15
hedkandihello18:18
hedkandiI think I'd like to put my little application onto the ubuntu repos18:18
macoalright, quieter channel and focused on packaging18:18
hedkandiso I believe I need two sponsors18:18
macoso what you want to look at is REVU18:18
maco!revu18:18
ubottuREVU is a web-based tool to give people who have worked on Ubuntu packages a chance to "put their packages out there" for other people to look at and comment on in a structured manner. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/REVU18:18
hedkandiyes but looking at this, the vast majority of the packages are ignored18:19
hedkandiI need to arrange for someone to say they'll evaluate it.18:19
macoyou can ask in here once you upload it18:19
iulianporthose, sebner:  Ack'd.18:19
sebneriulian: I'm wondering about but #460568 , I'd review it but it would be universe after the sync. So sync and then poke and archive admin or do you propose anything else?18:19
sebneriulian: thx18:19
macomany of those packages arent really ignored...so much as some sponsors said "hey, you did x, y, and z wrong. can you fix that?" and are waiting for the uploader to do so18:20
porthoseiulian, ty working on another :)18:20
hedkandiwell okay I'll give it a go.18:21
hedkandiWhat choice of licences do I have?18:21
macohedkandi: did you write the program?18:21
hedkandiy18:21
macowell anything that fits the dfsg can go into universe, othewise it goes in multiverse18:22
maco!dfsg18:22
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about dfsg18:22
macoboo!18:22
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macofine, google the dfsg. debian has a list of "free" licenses18:22
iuliansebner: I don't know what you mean.18:22
hedkandiok18:22
macogpl, mit, bsd, artistic...those are all free, i know that18:23
sebneriulian: it's currently in multiverse but after that sync it should be in universe18:23
sebneriulian: I'm wondering if that would cause any problems (I've seen some in past)18:23
iuliansebner: webgen0.4 is currently in universe.18:24
hedkandiah yes gpl bsd and artistic18:24
macothere are many more but off the top of my head i can think of those18:24
sebneriulian: ah I'm sorry. I was talking about bug #460568  (damn bot)18:25
ubottuLaunchpad bug 460568 in weirdx "Sync weirdx 1.0.32-4 (multiverse) from Debian unstable (main)." [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/46056818:25
iuliansebner: It shouldn't cause any problems.18:26
sebneriulian: fine then. thx18:27
iuliansebner: I think the archive admin has an option to move it to universe.18:27
iulianNot sure though.18:27
jreinhardtav`, so the version of epiphany-extensions-more has to be bumped to match the version of epiphany extensions? And I can do nothing except bugging upstream about it?18:27
hedkandimy idea of a licence is like the gpl except it prevents distribution of modified versions18:27
sebneriulian: yeah they can move stuff but I was asking beforehand to avoid any trouble18:27
av`jreinhardt, actually upstream does not even use versioning18:28
zookoThat would not be regarded as dfsg-free, nor osi-conformant.18:28
av`jreinhardt, did you see the homepage? all extensions are there and listed under author's name18:28
av`jreinhardt, but no versioning is specified18:28
dabaRhedkandi: why?18:29
jreinhardtav`, so just bumping the package version with a changelog entry would suffice?18:29
av`jreinhardt, well, we can't bump upstream versioning without introducing an effective new upstream release18:30
av`jreinhardt, I need to see what to do, cause having a new upstream release accepted now is a bit hard18:32
sebneriulian: bahbahabhaha! I'm just testbuilding and you are acking18:33
jreinhardtok, thank you for your help18:33
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av`np, I gonna let you know, stay tuned here18:33
sebneriulian: better for sync though. So no additional -release ack is needed18:34
hedkandidabaR: well two reasons really18:35
hedkandifirstly, I don't want other people introducing bugs and sending them off around the net18:35
hedkandiI want to be in charge of the software, and if I don't like what other people have done to it,18:37
hedkandithen it doesn't go anywhere18:37
hedkandiis basically my feeling18:37
dabaRhedkandi: what is the software? do you have a project web site?18:37
hedkandimy software is a little text-editor for rss feeds. It will soon have a website18:37
macohedkandi: then you want a non-free license and to put it in multiverse18:37
iuliansebner: Actually all packages require an ack from a -release member in order to be accepted.18:37
hedkandiokay maco.18:38
sebneriulian: yeah, that's why I said that it's better if you work on syncs18:38
macohedkandi: in that case, you can write a list of "you can: " and "you cannot: " for your license...18:38
hedkandihow exciting18:39
hedkandihowever i have a general impression that the motu's don't care a sausage about multiverse software18:39
iuliansebner: I'm still not getting it. :)18:39
hedkandiand  I want to get it out there.18:39
macoi maintain a package in multiverse....but im not a motu yet18:40
sebneriulian: nvm, let's fix the archive :D18:40
macoyou can maintain your own package and just ask for a sponsor when it needs an upload18:40
sebnermaco: ubuntu usually doesn't have a maintainer. Debian is your choice18:40
dabaRhedkandi: look, everyone faces these challenges when they write software, and the licences were created by people who have years of experience with OS development.18:40
macosebner: yeah i know but im the only one touching it in either debian or ubuntu :P18:40
macoits not exactly "motu dont care" so much as "motu are stretched thin" since there are thousands of packages and not even multiple-hundreds of motu18:41
macosebner: so effectively.....18:41
dabaRhedkandi: the way you prevent what you are afraid of is by distributing software yourself.18:41
sebnermaco: then work on getting the DM ;)18:41
dabaRIf people want to put in patches to it, they send them to you, and you either approve or don't approve.18:41
dabaRIf they don't like it, they fork.18:41
hedkandino they can't fork18:42
dabaRBut your version can still be downloaded from your server, and it is the one you control.18:42
hedkandiyes, but I don't think anyone will find my package unless it's in the multiverse18:42
hedkandiso I think my best bet is to release an early version under gpl18:42
macosebner: at the moment im trying to get it back *in* to debian. it was orphaned and removed. then i picked it up, and now debian legal changed their minds about whether the license is ok (doh!) and waiting on the author to repeat, again, that "Yes, seriously, distribution is perfectly fine!"18:42
hedkandiand get it in the universe18:43
dabaRhedkandi: believe me, there is a good reason why the GPL is the most used license.18:43
sebnermaco: I can't really say that I like upstreams that use such licenses anyways ..18:43
hedkandisuch as?18:43
hedkandiit says that stuff in ubuntu main comes with "technical support" haha18:44
hedkandilike how do you get technical support then?18:44
dabaRhedkandi: so users of your software don't have to wait for you to fix bugs, etc.18:44
macosebner:he said the next release will likely be bsd, so i guess at worst, i wait til january and resubmit my "intention to adopt" or whatever its called18:44
dabaRhedkandi: you could read about licensing a little bit, you don't seem to know the basics.18:45
Laneymmm WNPP18:45
sebnermacd: nice18:45
sebnerLaney: bugfixing ftw!18:45
hedkandirighto18:45
Laneywe should do a whole release under finalfreeze18:45
hedkandiwell anyway I'm off to work some more on my application. It should be up on revu in a week,18:46
hedkandiand we'll take it from there.18:46
hedkandiThe first version can go under gpl I think18:46
dabaRhedkandi: OK, have a good time.18:46
Laneyoj18:47
hedkandiyeah cheers see you soon!18:47
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tag_I can't seem to get fglrx to work in karmic19:05
tag_And it deems my system inoperable outside of booting in recovery mode19:05
iuliantag_: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Karmic questions.19:09
porthoseiulian, ping bug #46061719:32
ubottuLaunchpad bug 460617 in testng "Sync testng 5.10+dfsg-2 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)." [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/46061719:32
iulianporthose: Looking.19:43
Bodsdaporthose: Hi. I applied for mentorship a wee while back. I got the confirmation email but was just wondering if I am any closer to getting a mentor?19:53
porthoseBodsda, I have sent your app out to several MOTU's but haven't gotten a response yet.  Most MOTU's are busy working on packages that FTBFS right now so please be patient :)19:55
Bodsdaporthose: sure no worries. Was just after an update. Thanks for all your help :)19:59
porthosenp, :)20:00
ScottKiulian: Got anything that needs accepting?20:00
iulianScottK: Not yet.  Currently looking at bug #460617.20:01
ubottuLaunchpad bug 460617 in testng "Sync testng 5.10+dfsg-2 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)." [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/46061720:01
ScottKOK20:01
Bodsdaanyone got any leg work they need doing that is fairly simple (new guy here)20:02
ScottKBodsda: There's no need to wait for a formal mentor to be assigned.  You can dive right in and ask questions here.20:02
BodsdaScottK: ^^ :)20:02
ScottKNothing comes to mind.20:02
ScottKSorry.20:02
ScottKWe're sort of in crunch mode for the final karmic uploads.20:03
BodsdaScottK: ok, can you suggest a good place to get started?20:03
Bodsdayeah, I figured as much20:03
ScottKGenerally bugfixing.  Look for bugs tagged bitesize.20:03
BodsdaScottK: on lp under ubuntu?20:03
ScottKYes20:03
BodsdaScottK: so are bitesize bugs generally less difficult/important to fix?20:04
ScottKLess difficult20:04
Bodsdaok, cool20:04
BodsdaScottK: ok, probably a stupid question but... how do i find the bitesize bugs?20:05
ScottKIt's a tag, so you need to search by tag.   I don't recall exactly how to do that.20:05
iulianBodsda: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=bitesize20:07
BodsdaScottK: iulian: thanks guys :)20:07
BodsdaSorry for all the questions but, what should I be doing with the bugs? Fixing, testing, confirming?20:08
porthoseScottK, releaseforge source package has been removed in debian, and it currently FTBFS in karmic, should I file a bug requesting removal?20:11
iulianporthose: Ack'd.  We certainly don't want packages which fail to build.20:11
ScottKporthose: Why was it removed?20:11
porthoseScottK, not sure I'll have to dig a little more :)20:11
ScottKBodsda: Any of the above.  Currently we're only taking fixes for important bugs, so fixing is less urgent except for important bugs.20:12
iulianporthose, ScottK: RoM; low popcon, dead upstream20:12
ScottKporthose: Where's the build failure log?20:13
BodsdaScottK: ok, I will probably stick to confirming bugs as I have no idea what I am doing :) If I can reproduce the problem then I guess it can be confirmed?20:13
ScottKBodsda: Yes.  You might also join #ubuntu-bugs too then20:14
Bodsdaok, sweet - thanks ScottK20:14
ScottKIt may be #ubuntu-bug though?20:14
* ScottK doesn't actually remember20:14
macoplural20:15
Bodsda-bugs works20:15
iulianYea, that's the channel name.20:15
porthoseScottK, let me build it on Karmic to make sure, but it is listed on http://people.ubuntuwire.org/~wgrant/rebuild-ftbfs-test/test-rebuild-20090909-karmic.html20:17
ScottKporthose: Let me have a look there.20:17
dtchenyanno, it's a fine idea to read debian/control. I spent about an hour "fixing" psyco for Python 2.6 before I realised that it doesn't even matter that it isn't available for amd64.20:17
ScottKporthose: That one looks not so hard to fix.  I suspect it's installing to pyshared now.20:19
porthoseScottK, Ok I'll see if I can fix it thx :)20:20
* iulian is heading to bed.20:23
* ScottK looks around for nhandler20:28
ScottKLaney: Any word on Gnome-Do?20:29
Laneywaiting for upstream20:29
Laneyoh they just did it20:29
ScottKOK.  Thanks.20:29
Laneyi'll sponsor in a minute20:29
ScottKExcellent.  Ping me when it's up.20:30
ScottKLaney: Upstream supports the patch?20:30
LaneyYes, they just committed it (which was what I was waiting for)20:31
ScottKExcellent.20:31
av`ScottK, a new azureus release is out which fixes several bugs and crashes, we want it? https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/46062021:32
ubottuLaunchpad bug 460620 in transmission "Transmission Version 1.76 is Available" [Undecided,New]21:32
ScottKav`: It depends on how much else it brings.  If it's purely bug fixes, maybe.21:33
av`ScottK, the changelog is attached to the bug, give it a look21:33
ScottKav`: I'd prefer someone qualified look at the actual diff.  Maybe jdong.21:34
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av`ScottK, ok, let me know21:35
sebnerScottK: is there anything small and easy left that needs review/sponsoring? If not I'd go off  for today21:39
ScottKsebner: Have a look at the sponsors list yourself to see if you see anything.  I thought it was pretty well picked over, but I could be wrong.21:40
sebnerScottK: I'm wondering if we can close bug #45521621:42
ubottuLaunchpad bug 455216 in scim-tegaki "sync scim-tegaki 0.1-2 from debian testing" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/45521621:42
ScottKsebner: You might make a recommendation about 41936321:42
sebnerbug #41936321:42
ubottuLaunchpad bug 419363 in jhbuild "jhbuild is heavily outdated, update it" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/41936321:42
ScottKsebner: Give me a motu ack on scim-tegaki and a ping back and I'm OK with it as long as debian/changelog actually documents all the changes.21:43
sebnerScottK: the problem there is that's not really worth the work imho. No real fixes21:44
Laneydon't be afraid to defer things to lucid21:44
ScottKsebner: OK.  Your call.21:44
ScottKI'm fine with waiting.21:44
ScottKLaney: Been doing that all day.21:44
sebnerreally not worth it.21:44
Laneygood chap21:44
sebnerScottK: regarding jhbuild. Unless somebody steps up for the hard work + keep an eye on it I'm for removals21:45
sebner*-s21:45
LaneyAnyone took a run through the rcbugs list?21:45
ScottKLaney: How'd Gnome Do coming?21:45
LaneyScottK: Somewhere in the middle of soyuz21:45
Laneyno wait, it just came out of the other side21:46
Laneygo nuts21:46
ScottKphpmyadmin had a security upload in Debian yesterday.  Looking at that for a sync would be good.21:46
ScottKsebner: Would you edit that bug into a removal bug please?21:48
sebnerScottK: Last action for today is a removal *hehe* , sure .. give me a minute21:48
ScottKLaney: debdiff the current gnome-do package and yours and then answer me how I'm supposed to review that?21:50
LaneyScottK: gnome-do-plugins21:50
ScottKAh21:51
sebnerScottK: At this time of the cycle do you need to give and ACK or am I fine by myself?21:51
ScottKThat would explain the size of the diff21:51
Laney:)21:51
ScottKsebner: I should ack it.21:51
ScottKLaney: Accepted.  Thanks.  Any chance you could look at phpmyadmin?21:53
sebnerScottK: go ahead than21:53
sebner*then21:53
ScottKTHanks.21:53
sebnernp21:53
* sebner is wondering when LP will get a "delete comment" function btw21:54
sebnerScottK: do we continue our fixing is fun session tomorrow? How long can we haXX0r stuff?21:56
ScottKsebner: I think so.  When did I say the deadline was?  I think It's Tuesday at noon UTC.21:56
sebnerkk thx21:57
LaneyScottK: Alright, then I want to scan rcbugs21:57
ScottKLaney: Thanks.21:57
sebnerUnfortunately I'll only have time to help out again in the evening as I will travel to my University city half of the day :\21:58
* sebner wishes a good night21:58
Laneynight sebner21:59
ScottKGood night sebner.22:00
zookoBy the way folks, I'm investigating a segfault in pycryptopp which I'm pretty sure doesn't effect the build of pycryptopp that is currently in Karmic.22:12
zookoHowever I haven't quite isolated it yet so I'm still working on it in case it does turn out to be relevant for Karmic.22:12
ScottKzooko: If needed we can fix it as a stable release update22:13
zookoOkay.22:13
ari-tczewScottK: as you commented bug #371187 is it possible to upload debdiff as SRU?22:14
ubottuLaunchpad bug 371187 in drupal6 "clean URL not enabled" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/37118722:14
ScottKjames_w`: Bug #330573 has some indication you were working on it in the bug.  Do you plan anything for Karmic yet?22:14
ubottuLaunchpad bug 330573 in madfuload "madfuload doesn't work" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/33057322:14
ScottKari-tczew: I don't think it qualfies for SRU.22:14
ScottKPeople who want to enable it can.22:15
ari-tczewI always guess that we should delivery packages for satisfy the maximum consumers22:17
LaneyScottK: looks like the phpmyadmin fix is already in22:21
ScottKLaney: Cool.  Thanks for checking22:21
micahgScottK: anything else needed before release?22:23
ScottKAny FTBFS fixes are welcome22:23
ScottKhttp://people.ubuntuwire.org/~wgrant/rebuild-ftbfs-test/test-rebuild-20090909-karmic.html22:23
micahgwow22:24
micahgScottK: is this bug worth pushing before release? bug 46046622:24
ubottuLaunchpad bug 460466 in prism "prism package seems to be not properly cleaned up in clean: target" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/46046622:24
ScottKmicahg: No.22:24
micahgok22:25
micahgScottK: what's the difference between that FTBFS page and this one: http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/ftbfs/karmic.html22:27
ScottKThe one I gave you is from a recent rebuild test.22:28
micahgok22:28
ScottKYours is stuff that failed in the actual archive22:28
looliulian: Didn't touch jhbuild in a long time, but there finally was a real upstream release which I shall package one of these days; I don't think this is going to happen in the next two weeks though22:39
micahgScottK: is it worth trying to get Seamonkey 2 into karmic?  We have the same version hardy had22:59
micahgoh, nevermind that22:59
micahgnot the same version22:59
Laneyhow can I test builds on armel?23:03
Laney(without buying hardware myself)23:03
c_kornI get a lot uf such errors: "E: astromenace-data: package-contains-ancient-file usr/share/games/astromenace/DATA_BASE/CREDITS/codeblocks.tga 1979-12-31" how can I change the timestamp of all those files ?23:03
c_korns/uf/of/23:04
c_kornhas anyone an idea ?23:13
azeemc_korn: you can touch it if you want23:14
azeemhowever, it's probably the upstream tarball which is broken23:14
c_kornazeem: yeah the upstream "tarball" was a zip file actually23:15
funkyHatLaney: !23:15
Laneyhi there23:15
Laneyget back ok>23:15
funkyHatYep :) missed the train I wanted, but I regularly do that23:16
c_kornazeem: this is sufficient? find debian/astromenace-data/usr/share/games/ -type f -exec touch {} \;23:16
funkyHatI'm just figuring out what I'm supposed to do with this key thingy now :D23:16
Laneyha23:16
azeemI guess, yes23:16
Laneygpg --import <file I sent>23:16
Laney(I think...)23:16
c_kornazeem: this fixed it. thanks23:18
funkyHatLaney: you sent me the same mail twice?23:19
funkyHaturg stupid FireGPG brokenness23:21
jdongugh firegpg.23:21
* funkyHat shakes fist at Google23:21
funkyHatugh jdong23:21
jdong:)23:21
LaneyI used caff to do it, it sends the sigs to each UID23:21
jdongFirefox is the last thing I'd want handling my GnuPG secrets.23:21
* funkyHat is syncing his gmail so he can just use mutt23:22
funkyHatofflineimap -.-23:24
funkyHatI need better emails!23:24
=== hggdh_ is now known as hggdh
LaneyI just use mutt with gmail's imap directly23:29
funkyHatI had a reason for not doing that, I think I found it awkward or something, or I wanted mailboxes other than gmails?23:29
funkyHatofflineimap is just as awkward though23:29
Laneythat works too23:29
Laneygrr23:33
LaneyScottK: How do you feel about an upload that I can't be sure works? (fix an FTBFS on sparc/armel)23:33
ScottKLaney: If you're confident it doesn't introduce regression risk, sure.23:33
Laneyit at least builds here on amd6423:34
Laney(and works)23:34
ScottKOK.23:34
ScottKUpload it and I'll review it later.23:34
* ScottK is about to have dinner.23:34
Laneyalright23:34
Laneyurgh23:49
LaneyI don't like this... maybe I should get one of those special PPAs23:50
Laneyas far as I can tell it's right :(23:50
LaneyScottK: Uploaded (haskell-hsh)23:50

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