[00:15] <hipitihop> never mind, found it myself... yes apport-bug is the one to use.
[00:17] <tgm4883> hipitihop, ubuntu-bug mythbackend I think
[00:18] <hipitihop> tgm4883: ah that also looks like the one.
[00:35] <hipitihop> tgm4883: ubuntu-bug reports : You have some obsolete package versions installed. Please upgrade the following packages and check if the problem still occurs: dbus, dbus-x11, libblkid1, libcomerr2, libdbus-1-3, libdjvulibre-text, libdjvulibre21, libgmp3c2, libilmbase6, libmp3lame0, libopenexr6, libuuid1, mount, tzdata
[00:35] <hipitihop> I have already done apt-get update && apt-get upgrade and there is nothing new
[01:00] <XiXaQ> I'm sorry, but I'm really, really disappointed. I'm not a total beginner with ubuntu, but configuring myth is way too difficult, I think.
[01:00] <XiXaQ> it looks beautiful though! :)
[01:02] <XiXaQ> when I try to watch TV, it sais all channels are in use, but no recording exists?
[01:02] <XiXaQ> I haven't configured any channels, though, because the "scan for channels" is greyed out and I have no idea what frequency the channels here are on.
[01:03] <XiXaQ> but I've also added an ogg vorbis video to my configured videos directory, but it isn't found in Myth frontend.
[01:16] <XiXaQ> oh.. The backend keeps crashing. When I answered yes to report it, I got the following error: «The program crashed on an assertion failure, but the message could not be retrieved. Apport does not support reporting these crashes.»
[01:17] <XiXaQ> I don't understand how anyone is able to use this.
[01:18] <XiXaQ> can anyone help me troubleshoot or debug or report bugs or something?
[01:19] <XiXaQ> cause I'm stuck. I really want to like this, but it's quite difficult at the moment :)
[01:25] <XiXaQ> perhaps I'll have to use tvtime to switch channels? I had to do that with vnc, I remember.
[01:30] <XiXaQ> [V4L: /dev/video0] Television -> None
[01:30] <XiXaQ> what does this mean?
[01:34] <Seeker`> you don't ahve to use tvtime to change channels
[01:34] <Seeker`> not sure what that means
[01:34] <Seeker`> well, it means that you have set up a card at /dev/video0 as a V4L device
[01:35] <XiXaQ> What does Video Source mean?
[01:35] <XiXaQ> I have not setup that, cause it looked like a tv-guide for USA?
[01:36] <XiXaQ> I'm in Norway. I don't know of any online tv-guides which are available for Myth here.
[01:36] <Seeker`> video source is where it gets the listings from I think
[01:36] <XiXaQ> what does that mean?
[01:37] <Seeker`> I think you need that set up to scan for channels
[01:37] <XiXaQ> I have two choices: «None» and «»
[01:37] <Seeker`> two choices for what?
[01:37] <XiXaQ> for Video Source.
[01:38] <Seeker`> not sure then
[01:38] <Seeker`> setting up myth isn't somthing I do very often, so I'm not that familiar with the mens
[01:38] <Seeker`> *menus
[01:39] <XiXaQ> I don't know anyone who'd understand this.
[01:39] <XiXaQ> I thought this was for normal users, but maybe it's designed for hardware manufacturers?
[01:39] <Seeker`> its just that its difficult to provide support for all of the differnet cards, setups etc. all over the world
[01:40] <XiXaQ> well. My card does work perfectly with tvtime.
[01:40] <Seeker`> are you sure it is a V4L card?
[01:40] <XiXaQ> two minutes installing it, ten minutes scanning for channels.
[01:40] <XiXaQ> yes.
[01:41] <XiXaQ> I've been at it for three hours with Myth, and I'm not able to do anything with it, except showing menus that doesn't do anything.
[01:41] <Seeker`> have you tried looking for a setup guide?
[01:42] <XiXaQ> I've tried. I find some from back in 2004/2005, but those seem very outdated.
[01:42] <XiXaQ> Mythbuntu has a manual for 8.10. I'm using 9.10 rc, btw.
[01:43] <XiXaQ> I tried 9.04 and 8.10 before that, on three different machines with no luck.
[01:43] <Seeker`> you may have more luck with #mythtv-users
[01:43] <Seeker`> its a bit quiet in here most of the time
[01:46] <XiXaQ> "Commecial Flagging Method"... Are people supposed to understand that?
[01:48] <Seeker`> yes
[01:49] <XiXaQ> oh... I keep getting "(Core dumped)" in a window.
[01:50] <XiXaQ> mythfilldatabase, I think it's called, the program that causes it.
[01:50] <XiXaQ> what is a "Commercial Flagging Method"?
[01:51] <Seeker`> does it not give more information towards the bottom of the window if you highlight the option
[01:51] <XiXaQ> no.
[01:51] <XiXaQ> but it seems like mythfilldatabase is crashing all the time. How can I verify that everything is working properly?
[01:52] <Seeker`> it is the way mythtv detects adverts in programs
[01:52] <XiXaQ> nice... Sorry. MythTV Frontend closed unexpectedly.
[01:53] <Seeker`> mythfilldatabase uses the video source to download listings data
[01:54] <Seeker`> if you don't have listings set up properly, I imagine it may do strange things
[01:54] <XiXaQ> I can't watch local video either.
[01:54] <XiXaQ> that crashes the frontend.
[01:54] <Seeker`> I'm not familiar with the inner workings of mythtv
[01:55] <XiXaQ> ok.. But how do I get such a video source?
[01:55] <Seeker`> complete the setup
[01:56] <XiXaQ> hmm?
[01:56] <XiXaQ> I've been trying to do that for four hours.
[01:57] <XiXaQ> I don't know what a "video source" is, or why myth needs it but tvtime doesn't.
[01:57] <Seeker`> because mythtv isn't a video player
[01:57] <Seeker`> it is PVR software
[01:58] <Seeker`> so it needs to know where to find listings for TV, so it knows what to record when
[01:58] <XiXaQ> oh. You can't watch video with mythtv?
[01:59] <Seeker`> you can
[01:59] <Seeker`> but it isn't just a video player
[01:59] <XiXaQ> the only thing I wanted, was the ability  to watch tv on my desktop, sometimes record it, and sometimes watch it on my laptop instead.
[01:00] <XiXaQ> but I need a tv guide in order to configure channels?
[01:00] <XiXaQ> it doesn't make any sense to me at all.
[01:00] <Seeker`> it is pvr software
[01:01] <Seeker`> it is designed that you set up to record the programs you want to watch and play them back at a later date
[01:01] <XiXaQ> yes, but first of all, it should be able to get signals from the tuner, right?
[01:01] <Seeker`> yes
[01:02] <Seeker`> but I suspect it may need a video source set up to know what channels there are
[01:02] <XiXaQ> I don't think any TV Guides in Norway provides frequencies for all the different channels on all the different cable networks, satelite or air.
[01:02] <Seeker`> did you try adding a video source?
[01:03] <XiXaQ> no. I don't know what a video source is or where to buy one.
[01:03] <Seeker`> you don't buy one
[01:03] <XiXaQ> ok, then how do I get one?
[01:04] <Seeker`> you click on "add video source", or whatever wording it is they chose to use
[01:04] <XiXaQ> then I get an onscreen keyboard.
[01:05] <Seeker`> just an onscreen keyboard? nothing else?
[01:05] <XiXaQ> right.
[01:06] <Seeker`> a black screen and a keyboard?
[01:07] <XiXaQ> no, the same menu in the background.
[01:07] <Seeker`> what options does the menu give?
[01:09] <XiXaQ> oh, I'm sorry. I was in the wrong window. I added a Video Source with no grabber and default frequency table.
[01:09] <XiXaQ> now I'm able to choose that video source.
[01:10] <XiXaQ> oh, there is something called Video Filter, which is blank. Do I need that?
[01:10] <Seeker`> like I said, I don't know these menus very well
[01:10] <Seeker`> any more information you can give?
[01:11] <XiXaQ> I don't know.
[01:12] <Seeker`> could always try looking it up on the mythtv wiki
[01:15] <XiXaQ> yes, I've spent days trying to configure a program without reading manuals and wikis. No, I haven't.
[01:18] <XiXaQ> I'm sorry.
[01:18] <XiXaQ> I need a little break. This is getting on my nerves.
[01:19] <Egghead> trying to get lirc running on a ltsp client, using karmic beta and mythbuntu to setup diskless server, seems that the /var/run/lirc directory keeps disapearing after reboot, i wanted to report a bug, but where, is it a ltsp, lirc, or mythbuntu bug?
[01:20] <Seeker`> I'd report it against mythbuntu, when someone gets round to looking at it they will decide where it needs to be fixed
[01:21] <Egghead> seeker, sounds good, thanks
[01:37] <XiXaQ> «Fudging non-unique programids with multiple parts.» <-- What does that mean?
[01:37] <Seeker`> no idea
[01:37] <XiXaQ> how do I see if the backend is running?
[01:37] <XiXaQ> would the frontend complain otherwise?
[01:38] <Seeker`> it would complain
[01:39] <Seeker`> ps aux | grep mythbackend
[01:39] <Seeker`> will tell you whether the process is runign
[01:41] <XiXaQ> thanks. It is.
[01:41] <XiXaQ> regarding those filters for playback and recording. Is that something I have to configure?
[01:42] <Seeker`> I don't know what they are
[01:43] <Seeker`> is it just "Video Filters" next to a textbox?
[01:43] <XiXaQ> yes.
[01:43] <Seeker`> leave it blank. if stuff fails, come back and look later
[01:45] <hipitihop> does anyone know on what basis ubuntu-bug  reports obsolete packages ?
[01:46] <XiXaQ> what's the correct way to shut down the backend?
[01:48] <Seeker`> why do you want to shut down the back end?
[01:48] <XiXaQ> because tvtime doesn't work, and I think the backend has to be the reason for that.
[01:49] <Seeker`> sudo /etc/init.d/mythbackend stop
[01:49] <Seeker`> I think
[01:50] <XiXaQ> no, sudo service mythtv-backend stop
[01:51] <hipitihop> I'm getting mythfilldatabase crash but Ic an't report it because ubuntu-bug claims a handful of packages are obsolete but not updates are available and thse packages are latest available
[01:51] <XiXaQ> hipitihop, that's when running it automatically, right? Try running it manually instead. I think it's a gui thing.
[01:52] <hipitihop> XiXaQ: what is the cli ?
[01:52] <XiXaQ> sudo mythfilldatabase
[01:52] <hipitihop> too easy ;-)
[01:54] <XiXaQ> hmm. No I shutdown the backend, and tvtime still isn't able to scan for channels, it seems. Wonder what the reason might be.
[01:55] <hipitihop> XiXaQ: running at the moment, although it already reports a warning that I'm running the grabber as super user... but that's probably a seperate issue
[01:57] <XiXaQ> I really shouldn't be giving advise at all. I've never even been close to getting mythtv working.
[02:38] <XiXaQ> hmm. Something has happened. I'm now able to see tv. It's just no signal. Well, that's what it looks like, anyway. But this is karmic. I haven't tried tvtime on this before, so I guess I'll try with a live cd and see how that works.
[02:42] <mersault> I updated my mythbuntu 9.10 install this afternoon, and now my screen goes blank as soon as gdm starts. Anyone else experiencing this?
[03:11] <darthanubis> nope
[03:23] <rhpot1991> hipitihop: you shouldn't be runnign mythfilldatabase as sudop
[03:23] <rhpot1991> sudo
[03:24] <rhpot1991> mersault: check your logs?
[03:24] <mersault> rhpot1991: nothing that I can find.  the xorg logs are fine, the nvidia module is loaded...
[03:25] <rhpot1991> check /var/log/mythtv/mythfrontend.log
[03:25] <rhpot1991> see what its doing
[03:25] <mersault> I don't think it's getting that far.
[03:25] <rhpot1991> ah so you think its failing before mythfrontend launches
[03:26] <mersault> nothing shows up in the mythfrontend log, which is why i think it's gdm
[03:26] <rhpot1991> ps aux |grep mythfrontend
[03:26] <mersault> watching the boot process, I see it start ntp, and then blank
[03:26] <mersault> mythfrontend is not running
[03:27] <mersault> I'm looking at the gdm logs, but they appear to only have the same contents as the xorg log files
[04:01] <hipitihop> rhpot1991: fair enough, I was just following someone else's instructions..... now at the end of th erun there do not appear to be any obvious errors in termianl trace but mythweb status still shows there was an error
[04:02] <XiXaQ> hey, I got audio and video from the tvtuner! It's not in sync though, but it's a very good progress!
[04:15] <hipitihop> why is mythfrontend.log unreadable in a text editor ?
[04:16] <MistStlkr> Hoping someone is around to give me a hand, every time I reboot I need to set the screen resolution to one I can actually read.  Suggestions?  Pretty new to linux so it may well be something very obvious
[04:19] <hipitihop> MistStlkr: can't think of anything on hand but I have a similar issue with sound, each reboot I have to go into the mixer and tick one of the controls
[04:20] <ChesFTC> Hi, I've got a really bizarre problem with mythweb in the karmic RC
[04:20] <ChesFTC> Apache is spewing out binary junk before the HTTP/1.1 200 OK header
[04:21] <ChesFTC> Has anybody seen this before?
[04:34] <XiXaQ> why does MythTV Frontend in Karmic install backend as well?
[06:21] <Technophil> Can someone help me with a diskless frontend problem, one of the forntend images won't boot properly into NVIDIA and crashes.  I think the problem arose as I didn't enable nvidia-glx-xxx in synaptic before rebooting.
[06:22] <Technophil> I am thinking I might just delete the complete image files for the practicular FE but am not sure if another will be created?
[10:00] <jeffjeffdejeff>  hi all.  wonder if anyone can help me:  i'm trying to use mythtv box to connect to my other ubuntu computer.  I've managed to browse my mythtv box from my ubuntu machine, by going to places>connect to server.  how do i do it the other way round as my mythtv box doesn't have the ubuntu menu to open the application.
[20:29] <DonGiovanni> !help
[20:29] <Zinn> !help For a  complete list of my knowledge visit: http://www.baablogic.net/Zinn.cgi  Other available commands: !status, !about, !bug [bug_number].
[20:34] <DonGiovanni> Hello.  I have an issue where devices set to /dev/lirc0 will work but devices set to /dev/lirc1 will not (ir blaster on lirc0 and transmitter on lirc1 = blaster only works, if i switch transmitter to lirc0 and remote to lirc1 then only the transmitter works), any ideas where i should look?
[20:42] <mrand> DonGiovanni: Channels are exceedingly quiet today.  Feel free to stick around, but you might also post on Ubuntu forums in hopes that someone will respond there.
[20:43] <DonGiovanni> k thanks mrand, i'll post there as well but i'll stick around here too
[21:23] <XiXaQ> For å complete understanding of all my knowledge, read the following very carefully:
[21:28] <MythbuntuGuest30> Hi, I am a noob to Mythbuntu, Love it, but i need help with two issues.
[21:30] <MythbuntuGuest30> I have remote issues and Video REZ issues... can anyone help out?
[21:33] <DonGiovanni> @MythbuntuGuest30 you might want to try posting on the ubuntu forums doesn't look like anyone is really available today
[21:34] <MythbuntuGuest30> <param name="nick" value="Andy??">
[21:35] <MythbuntuGuest30> Looks like it, :(
[21:36] <MythbuntuGuest30> I tried the forums.
[21:36] <MythbuntuGuest30> Didn't get any answer
[21:37] <DonGiovanni> post the link I have used mythTV for a few years now so I can handle most of it...not a pro though
[21:37] <DonGiovanni> i might be able to at least point you in the right direction
[21:40] <MythbuntuGuest30> I can live without the remote, but as soon as i plug in the myth box to my tv, Sony Bravia 42", I get no signal msg, but it works fine on my monitor and my LG 22" LCD. Any clue?
[21:40] <MythbuntuGuest30> I use VGA to connect to my tv btw
[21:41] <DonGiovanni> vga when you go to the monitor as well?
[21:41] <MythbuntuGuest30> yes
[21:41] <DonGiovanni> what video card?
[21:41] <DonGiovanni> ati or nvidia?
[21:41] <MythbuntuGuest30> My box is a thinkcentre S10 Intel on board
[21:42] <MythbuntuGuest30> It has a shared MEM for the Video
[21:44] <MythbuntuGuest30> Getting the specs for the vid
[21:45] <DonGiovanni> i don't really know much about Intel drives for linux (never used them)
[21:45] <DonGiovanni> try setting your resolution
[21:46] <MythbuntuGuest30> Intel 865G chipset graphics memory controller hub (MCH)
[21:46] <DonGiovanni> to the TVs native res while connect to your monitor
[21:46] <DonGiovanni> then connect it up to the TV and reboot
[21:46] <DonGiovanni> see if you get picture
[21:46] <MythbuntuGuest30> I did set to my TV specs, still won't
[21:46] <MythbuntuGuest30> work
[21:48] <DonGiovanni> you etc your xorg.conf manuall?
[21:48] <DonGiovanni> sorry, did you edit your xorg.conf manually?
[21:50] <MythbuntuGuest30> yes
[21:53] <DonGiovanni> you post your edited xorg.conf in your forum post? send me the link
[21:54] <DonGiovanni> personally post the issue in the tv/video card issue in the Multimedia and Video forum of the ubuntuforums
[21:55] <DonGiovanni> and your remote issue in a seperate post in the mytbuntu section
[22:01] <MythbuntuGuest30> I will try it again... see what i get
[22:01] <MythbuntuGuest30> thanks for trying!
[22:05] <DonGiovanni> ? whats the link to your forum post? there is nothing to really try unless i see your xorg.conf
[22:06] <DonGiovanni> try and look for guides on editing xorg.conf for your video card...
[22:06] <DonGiovanni> good luck!
[22:07] <MythbuntuGuest30> thanks