[00:00] <Gildx> #AI
[00:24] <sithlord48> hows it going every one ?
[00:24] <Liw-_>  ha
[00:24] <Liw-_> ups
[00:43] <qwebirc45876> Anybody here?
[00:44] <BluesKaj> qwebirc45876, nope , just us ghosts
[00:45] <qwebirc45876> Well.
[00:45] <qwebirc45876> Ok.
[00:46] <qwebirc45876> I know how to code some.
[00:46] <qwebirc45876> And I am interested in developing for Ubuntu.
[00:46] <qwebirc45876> If I could help out coding
[00:46] <qwebirc45876> But I don't know where to start...
[00:46] <qwebirc45876> Where do I learn?
[00:47] <shiretok0> what can I expect to experience with the rc of kubuntu? should I wait for final?
[00:47] <BluesKaj> shiretok0, ask in #ubuntu+1
[00:48] <shiretok0> ok
[00:50] <shiretok0> it was ignored
[00:50] <shiretok0> isn't this for kubuntu?
[00:51] <BluesKaj> both kde and gnome
[01:04] <asobi> i can't install pidgin. why?
[01:21] <CupofDice> is this the command to chmod a folder to my username? " chmod -r Folder User " ? If not, then what is it?
[01:25] <JontheEchidna> chmod -r CupofDice.CupofDice folder
[01:49] <CupofDice> I am trying to move files off of my ntfs ext hd, and I am losing them. I was able to move some without problem, but dolphin gives me "could not read /media/disk/folder". When I autoskip, the folder and files disappears from the Ext HD, but they don't appear in my Home folder. Any ideas?
[01:49] <CupofDice> Well, the folder does appear in my home/user, but there is nothing in it
[01:55] <efren> hi
[02:11] <Byron> I am booted through a LiveCD of 7.10 and the external USB data transfer fails. I'm trying to move a DVD iso from my HDD to my external 500GB via USB.
[02:12] <Byron> Only 1.8GB of the 4.3GB iso were transferred before I got the stall in transfer, then nothing.
[02:13] <Byron> From 7.10 to current, I can't seem to use the external USB device for transfers. Is it a bad external drive or my motherboard failing the transfer?
[02:14] <Byron> Actually, I just recalled that I put 2 other DVD iso's from my netbook onto the external just fine; no issues. How can I find out the issue with my desktop?
[02:32] <jschall> how can i change which kwallet kopete uses?
[02:48] <compilerwriter> Ladies and gents the update notifier tells me there are 8 udates availiable to me.  Kpackage kit shows me 4 blocked updates.  Where are the other 4, and why are some updates blocked?
[03:10] <Byron> compilerwriter: 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade' whatever you see as being held back, just 'sudo apt-get install package1 package2 package3 package4'
[03:35] <smacnay> Is there an app for kde that can create photographic  panorama?
[03:36] <Lord_Drachenblut> smacnay: there is hugin
[03:36] <smacnay> yes, and it will work well but nothing for kde specifically?
[03:37] <Lord_Drachenblut> smacnay: not to my knowledge
[03:38] <smacnay> I am running kubuntu in a vbox session on a remote computer.  I am thinking of switching over to kde and might install it on my regular machine.
[03:38] <smacnay> is there a webcam app yet?  kamera?
[03:40] <smacnay> I am just doing some legwork before installing over a gig of apps on my syste.
[03:40] <smacnay> m
[03:42] <smacnay> thanks for the info on panoramas
[03:43] <Lord_Drachenblut> i think it's webkam or something like that
[04:21] <FloodBotK2> !netsplit
[04:35] <edkwok> Does anyone here know where I can find the gcc or c++ compiler on my 9.04 ubuntu load?
[04:47] <Tamagotono_> edkwok: are you wanting just the gcc or are you looking for a full IDE?
[04:49] <edkwok> well, I am trying to setup a xbmc and has downloaded the src, but when I try to compile it.
[04:49] <edkwok> I couldn't find any of the compiler tool and lib as listed
[04:53] <Tamagotono_> try apt-get install build-essential   it should get you what you need...
[04:57] <kuffer> hey does anyone by chance know how to set up a LAN Chat System?
[05:01] <edkwok> thanks Tama;
[05:13] <niloc> ello everyone
[05:21] <dizzyd2012> hello all
[05:24] <dizzyd2012> am i here?
[05:24] <dizzyd2012> or rather is anyone els?
[05:44] <jhutchins_lt> Not really.
[06:18]  * kb9vqf crawls back out of his programming cave for release day ;-)
[06:18] <kb9vqf> Long time no see!
[06:23] <kb9vqf> !kde3 is Kubuntu 8.04 ships with KDE3 and full support. Jaunty and Karmic do not include KDE3 but a remix install CD can be obtained at  https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Kde3/Jaunty or https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Kde3/Karmic. This is not officially supported. Support, instructions and ways to contribute can be found on the wiki pages
[06:39] <keerthi> hai this is keerthi
[06:39] <keerthi> r u there
[06:40] <keerthi> i want some help from u
[06:40] <maco> whats the problem?
[06:42] <maco> keerthi: you had a question?
[06:43] <kb9vqf> I guess not ;)
[06:46] <memenode> meh
[06:47] <memenode> systray locked up again
[06:47] <memenode> I really thought 4.3 is gonna be the first release in which basic functions are gonna be stable
[06:47] <maco> never had that experience
[06:48] <memenode> programs docked in systray don't respond, that is clicking them there does nothing.. can't bring up kopete, konversation, vlc..
[06:49] <memenode> choqok..
[06:49] <memenode> (eh that name is so funny)
[06:49] <maco> i havent had that issue with choqok or quassel or empathy or the keyboard switcher in the tray....
[06:49] <maco> it means sparrow in persian
[06:49] <memenode> oh
[06:49] <maco> iirc
[06:49] <memenode> it kinda sounds like the way chicken sound :)
[06:49] <memenode> cho qok qok qok.. :)
[06:50] <memenode> anyway.. I guess I gotta kill plasma or something..
[06:57] <magatz> How to reset to default the windows & application settings in Kde (4.3.2) ?
[07:04] <kb9vqf> magatz: Do you want to preserve any of your settings or do you just want to wipe everything out?
[07:05] <magatz> wipe... anyway i've found a way in system settings... sorry for the "noise"
[07:06] <kb9vqf> It's fine, it's quite here anyway tonight
[07:06] <kb9vqf> quiet
[07:55] <dansushi> hello people
[07:56] <dansushi> i'm thinking of changing to kubuntu
[07:56] <dansushi> and i was wondering, is troubleshooting on kubuntu and more difficult that on ubuntu?
[07:56]  * s1id3r0 is away: Gone away for now
[08:05] <dansushi> also, is 64-bit (k)ubuntu supported very well?
[08:05] <laci> --- JOIN ---           http://www.hackthat.net/df/ddos/86484/index.hack
[08:14] <laci> #hungary
[08:42]  * s1id3r0 is back.
[10:00] <markyxyz> hello
[10:00] <markyxyz> anyone here? :)
[10:02] <markyxyz> can anyone help me out on setting up an ADSL connection on networkmanager? doesn't seem to work, can't obtain an IP
[10:15] <luis_> hello good nite 2 u all i need your help i just install kubuntu 8.04.2 on a laptop and everytime i want to run adep manager it says that there another process runing an i just cant fix it help plls???
[10:21] <jussi01> luis_: and you have only one adept going?
[10:21] <jussi01> !adeptfix | luis_
[10:22] <luis_> ok
[10:24] <luis_> ha
[10:24] <luis_> yes it did actually crahes in the middle of this phyton-poker-network installation
[10:25] <luis_> i did last comman u gave me and is asking me again for that
[10:26] <luis_> ok that did fix it :(
[10:27] <luis_> the sad thing is that i was trying to install poker to play online but it couldnt install it
[10:27] <luis_> do u know how can i do that ubottu?
[10:28] <luis_> by the way thanks a lot for telling me how to fix it
[10:28] <jussi01> ubottu: is a bot
[10:29] <luis_> whats a bot? soory!!!
[10:29] <maco> bot as in robot
[10:29] <jussi01> a robot :)
[10:29] <luis_> oo i c txs
[10:30] <jussi01> !u
[10:32] <Idhan> hi, when I see youtube videos on firefox, the master volumen doesn't have a total effect on the videos.. as example if I decrease the volumen (master) to the mininum , I still can hear the music.. is there any way to correctly configurate the firefox plugin?
[11:13] <tweek> hey i have a problem with a command trying to install firefox 32bit
[11:22] <gioele> hello JontheEchidna: In bug #361149 you said that "Application control their own global shortcuts". Do you mean? From a packaging point of view? Because it seems to me that the default global shortcuts for multimedia keys are unrelated to the applications who uses them. For example both Amarok and Kaffeine use the (default) media key bindings.
[11:22] <gioele> (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/361149)
[11:24] <tweek> hey i have a problem with a command trying to install firefox 32bit
[11:29] <tweek> hey i have a problem with a command trying to install firefox 32bit
[11:37] <tweek> hey i have a problem with a command trying to install firefox 32bit
[11:38] <Mamarok> tweek: you should be a bit more detailed, else we can not help you
[11:39] <tweek> well no one was talking so i had no one to explain my problem to
[11:39] <tweek> Create the environment variable file
[11:39] <tweek> how do i do that?
[11:42] <slacker_nl> tweek: if you run bash: vi .bashrc ; export EDITOR=vi; now you said your default editor is via a env variable
[11:43] <slacker_nl> with zsh one would put that in its .zshrc file
[11:43] <slacker_nl> tweek: google enviroment variables bash (or zsh)
[11:43] <slacker_nl> or whatever shell you're using
[11:44] <tweek> um blash isn't fount
[11:44] <tweek> ops
[11:44] <tweek> bash
[11:44] <tweek> lol
[11:44] <tweek> i didn't typo in term
[11:45] <tweek> i'm using kubuntu 9.10 i just installed it
[11:48] <tweek> guess i'll get it tomorrow\
[12:19] <norteng> hello
[12:19] <JontheEchidna> gioele: From an application point of view. For example, juk doesn't use meta + c for the global shortcut for play
[12:19] <norteng> a I'm from Brazil
[12:19] <gioele> JontheEchidna: hi
[12:19] <JontheEchidna> gioele: Amarok also combines pause and play into one togglable action
[12:19] <JontheEchidna> while it would be nice if there was standardization, there isn't in this case :(
[12:20] <norteng> as I enter the Brazilian channel?
[12:20] <gioele> JontheEchidna: that is ok, but I'm telling is that if you is that there are standard keycodes like XF86MediaPlay that should be the default for the play action in the global kde bindings that exist regardless of the applications that accepts them
[12:21] <lovre> im having trouble installing ies4linux, is there an easy way like an archive that only needs to be extracted or something?
[12:21] <norteng> tem alguem que pode me ajudar ?
[12:21] <JontheEchidna> gioele: it really should be taken up with KDE anyway. More of a chance to get things to happen in a timely manner
[12:21] <JontheEchidna> !pt | norteng
[12:22] <gioele> JontheEchidna: what do you mean "with KDE". First this is a (K)Ubuntu-specific problem, then upstream KDE might like to change their defaults (that is sensible but not required).
[12:23] <gioele> The problem right now is that if you install KUbuntu all your multimedia keys do not work in KDE but do work in Gnome applications. Isn't that funny?
[12:23] <JontheEchidna> We use upstream's defaults for those keybindings
[12:23] <gioele> JontheEchidna: you can diverge from upstream for a while, to keep consistency with the rest of Ubuntu
[12:24] <gioele> JontheEchidna: anyway, do you mind if I switch back that bug to kdebase-workspace instead of Amarok?
[12:24] <JontheEchidna> this bug has nothing to do with kdebase-workspace
[12:25] <gioele> JontheEchidna: kdebase-workspace installs the default keybindings
[12:25] <JontheEchidna> which amarok does not use
[12:26] <gioele> JontheEchidna: that it (partially) uses. Once I changed the global keybindings, Amarok started working.
[12:27] <JontheEchidna> It's entirely custom. It just so happens you can change application global keybindings from system settings
[12:28] <gioele> JontheEchidna: what is entirely custom?
[12:28] <JontheEchidna> The play/pause shortcut
[12:29] <JontheEchidna> well, it uses the kde bindings system,  but there is not standard for such things where several apps use the same global keybindings for a specific action
[12:29] <JontheEchidna> The action itself is custom-defined: https://launchpad.net/bugs/460870
[12:31] <JontheEchidna> Upstream should change their default binding. 3 days before the release is really too late to do Kubuntu-specific changes like that, and 6 months should be plently to get most KDE apps to use the play multimedia key
[12:31] <gioele> JontheEchidna: what is that bug you just linked?
[12:31] <JontheEchidna> that's an excerpt from the amarok source code, where it defines the play/pause shortcut
[12:32] <JontheEchidna> oh, whoops
[12:32] <JontheEchidna> wrong link
[12:32] <JontheEchidna> http://paste.ubuntu.com/302009/
[12:32] <JontheEchidna> ;-)
[12:32] <gioele> JontheEchidna: I propose you this: move that bug back to kdebase-workspace as a reminder to change the defaults, then open another about the amarok/other apps behavior. What do you think?
[12:33] <JontheEchidna> Why involve kdebase-workspace at all?
[12:33] <JontheEchidna> it should be just as easy to remember if it's against amarok
[12:34] <JontheEchidna> and then file against other apps that need changing
[12:34] <gioele> JontheEchidna: I see two problems here: 1) KDE default bindings are wrong, 2) Amarok does not use default bindings
[12:34] <JontheEchidna> those are two separate bugs
[12:37] <gioele> JontheEchidna: <gioele> JontheEchidna: I propose you this: move that bug back to kdebase-workspace as a reminder to change the defaults, then open another about the amarok/other apps behavior. What do you think?
[12:37] <gioele> :)
[12:37] <JontheEchidna> oh, sorry
[12:37] <JontheEchidna> truth be told I just woke up :)
[12:38] <arWi> Im currently running kubuntu 9.04. I upgraded the motherboard and display controller. Now my system wont boot. What is the easiest way to make things roll?
[12:38] <gioele> JontheEchidna: I know that feeling ;)
[12:38] <JontheEchidna> gioele: I do not believe there is a standard KDE shortcut for pause and play, though
[12:38] <arWi> now im using old 7.04 which I booted from cd
[12:39] <gioele> JontheEchidna: yes there is (at least it appears in my global shortcuts dialog)
[12:39] <JontheEchidna> not all apps even have global shortcuts by default, I don't think
[12:39] <JontheEchidna> one for all apps?
[12:39] <arWi> I just dont want to install 7.04 and then upgrade the whole thing. And I dont know if I could burn a bootable cd while on livecd.. ;/
[12:42] <jussi01> arWi: when you say "your system wont boot" cant you tell me exactly what happens?
[12:43] <arWi> jussi01: something about trying to access block (or something) outsite partition. And sometimes it says something about bad crc. after this it will return to grub. i
[12:44] <arWi> Jussi01: and I did try the recovery mode
[12:44] <jussi01> arWi: try following the lost grub after windows instructions as told by the bot
[12:44] <jussi01> !grub
[12:44] <jussi01> Im off now, laters.
[12:44] <arWi> jussi01: perhaps I should try with some kernel boot parameters which could provide some debug info?
[12:45] <ArkoldThos> xddd
[12:45] <arWi> jussi01: Ill try. tnx.
[12:46] <JontheEchidna> gioele: Yeah, there's no place I can see where you can set one keybinding that will work with all applications. In the Global Keyboard Shortcuts section of the Keyboard and Mouse module you can change default global keybindings per application
[12:46] <JontheEchidna> but I can't see any standard KDE play shortcut
[12:46] <JontheEchidna> kaffeine doesn't even have a global binding by default
[12:47] <JontheEchidna> juk uses crtl+alt+p
[12:47] <JontheEchidna> and then amarok uses metza + c
[12:47] <JontheEchidna> *meta
[12:55] <gioele> JontheEchidna: you are right: in the Global keyboard shortcut you select independent components. So these shortcuts are not really global.
[12:55] <JontheEchidna> gioele: they are global in that they work even when the app does not have focus
[12:56] <gioele> So the really important point is to make them _standard_ keyboard shortcuts and to set them to the default XF86Media* keycodes (at least on Linux)
[12:56] <JontheEchidna> yeah
[12:58] <gioele> JontheEchidna: can you raise these points to the kde-devel mailing list?
[12:58] <JontheEchidna> eek :P
[12:58] <JontheEchidna> I know somebody who tried to do this in the past. I think I'll consult him
[12:59] <JontheEchidna> well, he tried to do similar shortcut unification
[13:01] <gioele> JontheEchidna: I remember something on XDG in 2003, but I think it has not been expanded to the then-standardized Media keys
[13:01] <JontheEchidna> eh... XDG is sadly mostly dead these days :(
[13:02] <JontheEchidna> somehting of a revival may be trying to happen, so there's hope
[13:04] <genesis> helo
[13:31] <virginia> hello
[13:32] <desconocida> hi
[13:35] <reagleBRKLN> hi, i'm using kde4.3 and need to print a selection of pages (e.g., 5-8), but don't see the option?!? am I missing it on a different tab.
[13:37] <BluesKaj> howdy
[13:54] <MarcoPau> hey, is it possible to unable dolphin preview only on folders? I find it useless for me
[13:55] <alvin> MarcoPau: Settings -> Configure Dolphin -> General -> Previews (unselect everything)
[13:56] <MarcoPau> alvin: great, thanks for the hinyt
[13:56] <JontheEchidna> ^just undirect directories
[13:56] <MarcoPau> hint*
[13:58] <vallhalla81> can anyone advise me on getting a xbox 360 controler to work please
[14:04] <Ramblurr> i just enabled strigi's indexing now nepomukservices is utilizing 100% of my cpu
[14:05] <genii> Strigi will do that.
[14:08] <Ramblurr> blargh
[14:08] <Ramblurr> i thought nepomuk/strigi/soprano was supposed to be useful in karmic/kde4.3
[14:25] <padi999> hi. my K-Menu shows up a deleted entry (and deleted program) when I search for it within the kmenu search bar. How can I disable that?
[14:26] <padi999> the point is, I can type "fire" and it popps up firefox-3.0 and firefox-3.5, but I only need 3.5 and deleted 3.0 but still it shows up every time!
[14:30] <padi999> ??
[14:33] <moreno> ciao
[14:33] <mor> ciao
[14:34] <padi999> If an entry in kmenu gets deleted but shows up when typed in "search" field within kmenu, how can I delete the menu entry eventually?
[14:34] <nar> svvvvvvv!
[14:36] <mor> svvvvvvv
[14:37] <nar> !
[14:37] <mor> !
[14:38] <nar> }:[
[14:38] <Mamarok> folks, behave!
[14:44] <mor> inculidioca
[14:45] <genii> !it
[14:48] <palodequeso> I just installed the lastest Release Candidate of kubuntu karmic, and it seems that when I try to open a CMake project with kdevelop 4, it crashes, anyone else experiencing this?
[14:48] <Pici> palodequeso : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Karmic/9.10 support/discussion.
[14:52] <dmg^> Hi, I have problems with booting Kubuntu from live CD. After it loads, desktop doesnt appear, olny a fullscreen command prompt with text "to run a command as administrator user root use sudo command . see man sudo_root for details."
[14:59] <Guest52199> bonjour quelqu'un peut me dire comment on lance la console dans KUMBUNTU ?
[14:59] <Guest52199> pour passer en su reparer ma mandriva
[14:59] <Guest52199> merci de votre reponse
[14:59] <genii> !fr
[15:01] <genii> dmg^: At the menu when CD boots, perhaps try booting in VGA mode
[15:08] <dmg^> genii under F4 Modes i have only Normal, Safe graphics mode, use driver update disc and OEM install
[15:09] <genii> dmg^: "safe graphics mode"
[15:10] <dmg^> ok, ill try
[15:13] <ubox> is there an easy way to share internet connections yet?\
[15:26] <ncfi1013_> i just installed the new version of firefox and i cant get any torrent files to open in ktorrent when i click on a link for a torrent
[15:45] <jhutchins_lt> ncfi1013_: clicking on a torrent link causes a .tor file to be sent to your system.  Firefox needs to know that if it gets a .tor file, it should call ktorrent and pass the .tor file to that.
[15:56] <jhutchins_lt> ncfi1013_: Sometimes you can right click on a link and it will give you an "Open with " option.  Sometimes you'll end up having to re-install ktorrent.
[16:21] <monte48lowes> is anyone else having issues with Acer laptops and CPU fans while running karmic?
[16:23] <genii> monte48lowes: Maybe ask in the Karmic channel, #ubuntu+1
[16:25] <BluesKaj> monte48lowes, my acer works well with karmic , just make sure you have some space underneath for the fans to draw some air in to cool the elecronics
[16:26] <monte48lowes> my fan does not even turn on
[16:28] <genii> The Acer I have with NVidia card had some weirdness with the GPU fan... system fan worked fine however
[16:29] <monte48lowes> it ran fine with jaunty. I upgraded to karmic and now the fan doesn't come one
[16:29] <CupofDice> Anyone in here ever used pmount with ntfs-3g before?
[16:30] <apparle> Is there anything like DirectX for linux
[16:31] <maco> apparle: the 3d system is called OpenGL
[16:31] <maco> if you want to run DirectX games, though, look at Wine
[16:31] <maco> !wine
[16:33] <apparle> What diffrence would it make....if Iam a windows game developer and suddenly want to make linux version
[16:33] <maco> apparle: its a different API
[16:33] <ubox> anyone using an hp remote successfuly?
[16:33] <maco> apparle: it serves the same purpose, but youd be learning a new toolkit
[16:34] <apparle> I am not a developer ... so I dunno..
[16:34] <maco> ok
[16:35] <maco> well a windows game dev's knowledge of the exact commands to call would not transfer. their understanding of how to make graphics and physics and such work would of course transfer
[16:35] <apparle> But make an interface to OpenGL such that same commands will work
[16:35] <maco> sounds like a chunk of wine
[16:35] <apparle> Would it help the devs to make the game available for both linux and windows
[16:36] <maco> wine lets you run windows programs
[16:36] <maco> its a little more complicated
[16:36] <ubox> or maybe someone has an ir remote at all working?
[16:36] <apparle> No.... I am not thinking of running the existing games
[16:36] <maco> i think directx has development environments...like how with Visual Basic you have to buy Visual Studio from microsoft?
[16:37] <maco> so if a dev is used to that....theyd be thrown off a bit by changing environments
[16:37] <maco> and iirc, opengl can do more
[16:37] <maco> *shrug*
[16:37] <maco> there are people who spend their time porting games from windows to linux
[16:38] <ubox> how do i append a dir to my $PATH from cli?
[16:38] <ubox> permanently
[16:42] <apparle> ubox: see if this helps http://www.codecoffee.com/tipsforlinux/articles/030.html
[16:43] <ubox> apparle: thanks :)
[16:43] <jschall> my xmodmap settings (which i apply in a script in .kde/Autostart) disappear after suspend/resume. how can i work around that?
[16:45] <BenPA> hi I have compaq presario 2200 that I cannot get the wireless working ... I installed kubuntu jaunty and have search the internet and install several drivers and nothing
[16:45] <BenPA> at wits end
[16:45] <maco> it may make sense to try installing network-manager-gnome and using that instead of kde's. the kde one in jaunty had some bugs with encrypted networks
[16:46] <BenPA> oh really
[16:46] <BenPA> ok let me try that
[16:49] <jschall> my xmodmap settings (which i apply in a script in .kde/Autostart) disappear after suspend/resume. how can i work around that? I tried a script in /etc/pm/sleep.d but it doesn't seem to work.
[16:51] <robin0800> BenPA: or wicd
[16:56] <apparle> maco: If I somehow find the source of DirectX game......... how difficult is it to port it to linux
[16:56] <jlasnier> bonjour tout le monde, j'aimerais avoir des informations supplémentaires sur le montage de disque dur, quelqu'un aurait un petit peu de temps à me consacrer ?
[16:56] <Bou> jlasnier | !fr
[16:56] <Bou> !fr
[16:57] <jlasnier> !fr
[16:57] <Bou> ^^
[16:57] <jlasnier> sorry
[16:57] <Bou> pas de problèmes ;)
[17:05] <BenPA> maco: I installed what you suggested network-manager-gnome but I cannot find it on the app list
[17:06] <maco> BenPA: hit alt+f2 and type "nm-applet" in the box
[17:06] <BenPA> maco: ok brb the computer is upstairs LOL
[17:11] <norteng> boa tarde
[17:14] <Mamarok> norteng: English only, please
[17:14] <BenPA> maco: I get a warning ... applet_dbus_manager_start_service could not acquire the NetworkManagerSetting service as it is already taken .... ummm I had previously wifi-radar ... should I uninstall it?
[17:17] <vishesh> Does KDE seem unstable to anyone? I have to restart the X-Server 3-4 times a day cause it totally freezes. And sometimes even that doesn't work.
[17:19] <maco> BenPA: remove the kde applet thats trying to do network manager, maybe?
[17:23] <Shockrates> hello mates
[17:23] <Shockrates> how can i see which version of mplayer i have?
[17:25] <Shockrates> how can i see which version of mplayer i have?
[17:25] <robin0800> BenPA: wicd uninstalls network manager
[17:25] <norteng> I need help, a script that can copy the modified files from one directory to another automatically.
[17:26] <norteng> someone help me?
[17:28] <Shockrates> hi
[17:28] <phh> norteng: find -newer the-reference-file -exec cp \{\} /dest \;
[17:30] <slacker_nl> Shockrates: mplayer --version, dpkg -l mplayer
[17:48] <jonathan__> hola
[17:49] <jonathan__> como puedo automontar particiones al iniciar el sistema
[17:49] <jamesjedimaster> !es | jonathan__
[17:50] <jonathan__> gracias
[17:50] <jonathan__> jajaja
[17:51] <ubuntu> good dasy guys i really need some help
[17:53] <ubuntu> i just install kubuntu on a latop compaq nx6120 wireless get conected to an open server
[17:53] <ubuntu> but here at work it wont connect to internet can somebody help me pls
[17:59]  * ldeveaux is away: Gone away for now
[17:59] <meykandan> anybody from hungary?
[18:00] <linuxerwin26> hi
[18:00] <meykandan> hi
[18:00] <linuxerwin26> coming from austria
[18:00] <meykandan> :)
[18:01] <meykandan> not far from hungary :)
[18:01] <xorred> how do I clean up KDE4.3's cache as it's trying to start something every time, based on a failed logoff?
[18:01] <linuxerwin26> indeed, are you from hungary?
[18:01] <meykandan> originaly I'm a hungarian
[18:01] <meykandan> but I was born in Czechoslovakia
[18:02] <meykandan> and now I live in UK
[18:02] <maco> xorred: in systemsettings -> advanced -> session ... set it to start a clean session instead of restarting the last one
[18:02] <|PaperTiger|> Problem: Trying to copy a large file from my hard drive to a USB and it will not copy. No matter what I do. I've reformatted the USB too... Any ideas why it won't copy?
[18:02] <linuxerwin26> i think you have married an english girl :)
[18:02] <xorred> thanks maco
[18:03] <meykandan> not at all
[18:03] <meykandan> :(
[18:03] <meykandan> english girls are crazy
[18:03] <maco> ...
[18:03] <maco> er?
[18:04] <linuxerwin26> why do you live in uk?
[18:04] <maco> could you keep your opinion on genders & ethniticities to yourself?
[18:04] <ubuntu> so does anyone can help me pls for some reason kubuntu wont connect to wireless network, it does detected and i gave it the web key but it just wont connect help pls
[18:04] <meykandan> i had a big hope :(:(:(
[18:04] <meykandan> but nothing here
[18:04] <meykandan> :(
[18:04] <meykandan> just lies
[18:05] <meykandan> next year I'm leaving this country
[18:05] <meykandan> looking for a new life somwhere else
[18:05] <meykandan> maybe azia
[18:05] <linuxerwin26> i wish you the best
[18:06] <meykandan> cheers
[18:06] <meykandan> and u too my friend
[18:06] <meykandan> how's the life in Austria now?
[18:11] <dmg^> Hello, could anyone help me with creating a portable kubuntu usb stick, i followed these steps http://www.pendrivelinux.com/kubuntu-9-04-flash-drive-install-via-cd/#more-1980 but system failed to install USB creator (step 4)
[18:11] <ubuntu> guys please i really nedd help
[18:12] <ubuntu> cant connect to the network
[18:12] <kutuZov> how did you try  to install the creator
[18:15] <kutuZov> @dmg^ What's the exact output of apt?
[18:16] <ubuntu> so any one available to assit me on the wireless config pls___
[18:17] <kutuZov> @ubuntu what's your problem?
[18:17] <gooler> Hi, i'm partitioning a hard drive to prepare it for the next launch of karmic. The disk is pretty big so i'm using a large home partition (400GiB). Now i've formated it with ext4 and reiserfs. The partition used disk space for ext4 is 6.6 Gib! while with reiserfs it's a few hundreds MiB. Is that normal?
[18:17] <ubuntu> i cant connect to the network it does detect the signal i i gave it the web key but still wont connect
[18:18] <kutuZov> @ubuntu are you shure that your wireless drivers are installed correctly
[18:19] <ubuntu> yes
[18:19] <gooler> and by normal I mean ext4 using larger disk space than reiserfs
[18:19] <ubuntu> it does detect an open source from my house
[18:19] <ubuntu> and it does connect
[18:19] <ubuntu> but here at weoprk wont connect even by giving it the web  key
[18:19] <Tm_T> gooler: I assume it's matter of journal or similar
[18:19] <maco> plasmoid network manager is blah for encrypted networks in jaunty
[18:20] <maco> try wicd or something instead
[18:20] <ubuntu> how do i do that_
[18:20] <ubuntu> ?
[18:21] <gooler> Tm_T: thanks, i'll go with reiserfs for the home partition
[18:22] <Tm_T> gooler: it is possible that reiser does use same or more when you have data there, cannot say but it's possible
[18:22] <d6mag> kutuZov what is apt?
[18:22] <kutuZov> aptitude
[18:23] <kutuZov> if you install it with apt-get install there must be an output
[18:23] <ubuntu> so whats wicd?
[18:24] <genii> !info wicd
[18:24] <ubuntu> ooh ubottu
[18:25] <ubuntu> thank God help me please
[18:25] <ubuntu> look i just install kubuntu at home on this laptop
[18:25] <Tm_T> !bot
[18:26] <ubuntu> ubottu) and back home it does connect to an open wireless server with no problem at all but here at work it just wont connect
[18:26] <ubuntu> why is this happening_
[18:26] <ubuntu> ?
[18:27] <genii> ubuntu: ubottu is a bot we use to pull up info like as !info wicd makes it recite about the package called wicd
[18:27] <ubuntu> ok thanks for that explanation
[18:28] <ubuntu> but my question is why does the laptop get connected to an open wireless server and here at work wont connect_
[18:28] <ubuntu> ?
[18:29] <ubuntu> can you help me on this matter genii please??
[18:32] <dmatt> ubuntu: it is more complicated to connect to encrypted wireless, besides, it might be you did not chose correct encryption type and password type
[18:32] <ubuntu> well i already type it several times but it just wont connect
[18:32] <ubuntu> anyway you thiunk wicd is better_
[18:32] <ubuntu> ?
[18:33] <dmatt> ubuntu: what type of encryption they use in work?
[18:33] <ubuntu> infinitum
[18:33] <ubuntu> here is
[18:33] <ubuntu> multiple times verifyed
[18:34] <ubuntu> INFINITUMC2BAD
[18:34] <ubuntu> wb key>
[18:34] <ubuntu> 0572b4c700
[18:34] <genii> ubuntu: The usual types are: WEP WPA WPA2
[18:34] <dmatt> types of encryption : WEP, WPA, WPA2
[18:34] <ubuntu> wep
[18:35] <dmatt> that one is not very safe :)
[18:35] <ubuntu> is the one infinitum gave at the company
[18:36] <ubuntu> so is wicd better ? can it be installed on kubuntu? how do i get that?
[18:37] <jamesjedimaster> sometimes there is a checkbox to type in the key in ascii or hex
[18:37] <ubuntu> exactlly
[18:37] <ubuntu> actually let me tell you
[18:37] <ubuntu> it does detect the signal but for somereason it says INFINITUM0C2BAD
[18:38] <jamesjedimaster> type it in hex
[18:38] <ubuntu> hex? lets c
[18:38] <dmatt> ubuntu: where exactly does it says INFINITUM0C2BAD?
[18:39] <ubuntu> if i richt click on the network manager it appears the wireless signals
[18:39] <ubuntu> there
[18:39] <ubuntu> and is not that
[18:39] <ubuntu> its got to be INFINITUMC2BAD
[18:39] <ubuntu> without the 0
[18:41] <dmatt> ubuntu: if you want to try wicd, just instal it by: sudo apt-get install wicd
[18:41] <ubuntu> OK
[18:42] <ubuntu> so i need to conect it with wired
[18:42] <ubuntu> lets see
[18:42] <_dvorak_> \close
[18:42] <dmatt> anyway, you should clarify with responsible in work correct exact name of wifi network and password
[18:42] <jamesjedimaster> good point!
[18:42] <ubuntu> i know but how do i correct it?
[18:42] <genii> wicd is in universe, it may not find it with stock repo list. also you need to do sudo apt-get update     before an install of anything, to fetch a list
[18:43] <ubuntu> it wont let me
[18:43] <dmatt> and chose hex as type of password
[18:43] <ubuntu> wher do i find hex? sorry that is kind a strange for me
[18:44] <jamesjedimaster> it should be in the same window where you type in the password
[18:44] <ubuntu> no
[18:44] <ubuntu> it doesn give that choice
[18:45] <dmatt> check what types of wep are available
[18:45] <dmatt> it is probably picklist or something
[18:45] <jamesjedimaster> does someone at your work may help you with the connection?
[18:45] <ubuntu> i have 2
[18:45] <ubuntu> both are wep
[18:46] <ubuntu> no none here knows kubuntu
[18:48] <jamesjedimaster> but they may know how to connect a wireless
[18:48] <ubuntu> nop
[18:48] <dmatt> ubuntu: u r using kubuntu jaunty?
[18:48] <ubuntu> 8.04.2
[18:49]  * dmatt forgot what channel i am on
[18:49] <dmatt> let me check
[18:49] <genii> Hardy :)
[18:49] <ubuntu> yes
[18:51] <francisco_t> Hi, where is the kadressbook file contacs?
[18:54] <francisco_t> I found, the file is std.vcf :-)
[18:54] <dmatt> ubuntu: where it says WEP it is actually picklist, so choose WEP 40/104-bit hex
[18:56] <dmatt> and there is another picklist for advanced settings, try also second option if first does not work
[18:59] <dmatt> ubuntu: are you still there? I have to leave very soon
[19:02]  * ldeveaux is back.
[19:03]  * dmatt has to leave
[19:04]  * ldeveaux is away: Gone away for now
[19:10] <ubuntu_> ok with wicd says that it is unable to get the IP address but that can be configure manually right?
[19:11] <ubuntu_> how do i get the IP address?
[19:17] <BenPA> maco and robin0800: thank you for your help with the network manager ... the wicb worked to a point but I still was not able to connect to the wireless for some reason I think it had to do with an ip address
[19:20] <Nailbar> Using meta+mousewheel to zoom desktop using the KDE desktop effects... Is that possible?
[19:23] <ubuntu_> ok i am using wicd and it says again INFINITUM0C2BAD
[19:23] <ubuntu_> O WONT BELONG THERE
[19:33] <rmrfslash> How do I create a link to an application in kubuntu
[19:33] <rmrfslash> before (in kde 3), you just right click on the desktop and select "create a link to application" or something to that effect
[19:34] <Nailbar> rmrfslash: you can drag application icons from the menu to the desktop
[19:34] <rmrfslash> I mean, if an application does not have an icon
[19:35] <trquang> hi
[19:37] <Nailbar> rmrfslash: one way, though it may be considered a hack, would be to drag some random application to the desktop and then redefine what it launches.
[19:40]  * ldeveaux is back.
[19:40] <gianfranco> !list
[19:41]  * ldeveaux is away: Gone away for now
[19:42]  * ldeveaux is back.
[19:42]  * ldeveaux is away:
[19:42] <Shockrates> hi guys
[19:42] <Tm_T> linuxwizard: please turn that noisy public away off, thanks
[19:42] <Shockrates> does anyone know how can i change dolphin skin/theme?
[19:42] <Shockrates> i want to make it a little darker
[19:43] <Tm_T> s/linuxwizard/ldeveaux
[19:43] <trquang> http://www.nhacso.net/Music/Song/Tru-Tinh/2006/05/05F611C1/
[19:43] <Tm_T> linuxwizard: sorry for wrong tabcomplete (:
[19:43] <Tm_T> Shockrates: it's all about your KDE theme
[19:43] <ldeveaux> Tm_T: np
[19:43] <Shockrates> Tm_T:
[19:43] <Shockrates> what
[19:44] <rmrfslash> Nailbar: that works
[19:44] <Tm_T> Shockrates: systemsettings -> appearance
[19:44] <rmrfslash> and yeah... I agree, its hackish
[19:45] <Shockrates> Tm_T: the look of dolphin for oxygen and air
[19:45] <Shockrates> is the same white
[19:45] <Nailbar> rmrfslash: Odd that there's no option in the Add Widgets menu. I recall looking for the same thing earlier.
[19:46] <Tm_T> Shockrates: change your colours there?
[19:46] <Shockrates> where?
[19:46] <Shockrates> windows tab?
[19:47] <Tm_T> ummm, systemsettings -> appearance -> colors
[19:50] <Shockrates> so to make dolphin a little darker
[19:50] <Shockrates> in general
[19:51] <Shockrates> i have to do change what colour
[19:51] <Tm_T> what part you like to be darker?
[19:52] <Shockrates> actually, i have selected the oxygen theme. and i use a dark background, a galaxy. so as you can imagine the pane is pretty dark. but dolphin is all white
[19:52] <Shockrates> i want to do something that fits with the rest of my theme
[19:53] <Shockrates> the panel@
[19:53] <Tm_T> Shockrates: I recommend to fiddle around and try different things
[19:54] <Shockrates> dolphin doesnt have a darker version?
[19:54] <Shockrates> in general?
[20:08] <Shockrates> hi guys. i have a laptop and kubuntu 9.10 . my laptop has 2.1 sound but subwoofer doenst work
[20:10] <Shockrates> any ideas
[20:15] <sobczyk> what is the mono dev platform for linux?
[20:18] <TSmurf> anyone know how to get gconf-2.0 to work on ubuntu 9.04?
[20:19] <TSmurf> i'm trying to compile compiz from source
[20:28] <yuriy> TSmurf: try #ubuntu
[20:28] <TSmurf> yuriy: ok thank you
[20:45] <loris> salve
[20:46] <loris> sono nabbo
[20:46] <prog_> hello
[20:46] <loris> hi
[20:46] <prog_> how are you?
[20:47] <loris> fine thanks
[20:47] <prog_> someone from Portugal??
[20:47] <loris> i'm on the road of blasfemy
[20:47] <loris> because I'm a newbie in ubuntu
[20:47] <prog_> me too
[20:47] <prog_> xD
[20:53] <bottiger_> chrome plays the most annoying sound everytime I open/close a tab. it sounds like an ubuntu theme sound - any idea how to get rid of it
[20:58] <hardcampa> Alright how do I disable the Insanely annoying screensaver that keeps blanking my screen even though it should be disabled'
[20:58] <jschall> who makes the better drivers right now, ati or nvidia? i want to run kwin's compositing really well and i'm considering replacing my 8800gts because of some of nvidia's driver quirk's, but i'm not sure if an ati card would be better or not.
[20:58] <hardcampa> I've uninstalled all KDE screensavers etc.. but you can't it seems like uninstall the "blanker"
[21:00] <hardcampa> Now it seems it turns on like each minute.. and yes that's slightly annoying.
[21:09] <jschall> how can i set an environment variable for kwin? i want to set __gl_fsaa_mode to get antialiasing.
[21:12] <william> is there  a command I can use to determine which file belongs to which package?
[21:13] <Guest18597> ?
[21:13] <Guest18597>  is there  a command I can use to determine which file belongs to which package?
[21:13] <Guest18597> I am getting error, can anyone see this?
[21:13] <genii> Guest18597: dpkg -S /path/filename
[21:13] <Guest18597> oh, thanks. I though my irc was not working
[21:19] <tweek> hey i need help creating a environment variable while installing firefox 32bit
[21:20] <EagleScreen> tweek: what?
[21:20] <tweek> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AMD64/FirefoxAndPlugins
[21:20] <tweek> in the 32bit step 3
[21:21] <EagleScreen> tweek: using hardy?
[21:21] <tweek> hardy?
[21:21] <tweek> i'm using kubuntu? =\
[21:22] <EagleScreen> what version of Kubuntu?
[21:22] <tweek> 9.10
[21:23] <EagleScreen> then what do you want that steps for? I think they are obsolete
[21:23] <tweek> i need firefox 32bit to run runescape in hd =\
[21:23] <EagleScreen> but you installed Kubuntu amd64?
[21:24] <tweek> mhmm
[21:24] <tweek> kubuntu runs better in 64 bit
[21:25] <EagleScreen> I think opposite to you
[21:25] <tweek> lol
[21:25] <EagleScreen> what is the output for you of command: uname -a
[21:26] <tweek> Linux Tweek-laptop 2.6.31-14-generic #48-Ubuntu SMP Fri Oct 16 14:05:01 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[21:27] <EagleScreen> yes, you have got amd64 version
[21:27] <tweek> yeah i knew that
[21:27] <tweek> but i still need 32bit firefox
[21:27] <EagleScreen> but, it is not possible to run runescape in amd64 version?
[21:28] <tweek> you need 32bit firefox to get it to run right...
[21:29] <EagleScreen> i am running it now in amd64, but I see a gray rectangle at the right
[21:29] <EagleScreen> http://imagebin.ca/view/yWEXv9.html
[21:29] <tweek> run it in high detail? lol
[21:29] <EagleScreen> do you think it is running propertly?
[21:31] <EagleScreen> anyway, what is your problem with step 3?
[21:31] <tweek> i've ran it in 64bit firefox
[21:31] <tweek> and it doesn't run right
[21:31] <tweek> idk what to do
[21:31] <tweek> i made the dir
[21:31] <EagleScreen> really I think it is better use 32bit distros by the moment
[21:31] <EagleScreen> there is better support for many applications
[21:32] <tweek> but i dont know how to Create the environment variable file for pango32 and open it for editing:
[21:32] <EagleScreen> and perfomace is the same
[21:33] <EagleScreen> step 3 is very clear for me
[21:33] <jschall> my pcm volume keeps getting reset to 0.
[21:34] <tweek> well i type in sudo nano /etc/pango32/pangorc &
[21:34] <tweek> and it gives me [1] 2057
[21:35] <EagleScreen> what report command: jobs
[21:35] <tweek> [1]-  Stopped                 sudo nano /etc/pango32/pangorc
[21:35] <tweek> [2]+  Stopped                 sudo nano /etc/pango32/pangorc
[21:35] <EagleScreen> kill them: kill %1; kill %2
[21:36] <EagleScreen> and run jobs again tu ensure they are killed
[21:36] <tweek> bash: kill: (2057) - Operation not permitted
[21:36] <EagleScreen> sun kill with sudo
[21:36] <EagleScreen> sudo kill %1; sudo kill %2
[21:36] <tweek> ?
[21:36] <Camaxtli> Are you only using nano for those two things?
[21:36] <Camaxtli> If so killall nano makes more sense
[21:37] <tweek> ERROR: garbage process ID "%1"
[21:37] <EagleScreen> run sudo killall nano
[21:37] <tweek> nano: no process found
[21:37] <EagleScreen> chek again with jobs
[21:38] <tweek> still there
[21:38] <Camaxtli> killall nano *
[21:38] <jschall> i was able to set an environment variable __GL_FSAA_MODE=9 for compiz (by starting it with the command "__GL_FSAA_MODE=9 compiz") and it enabled antialiasing (the variable signals to the nvidia drivers to force antialiasing on). how can i set that variable for kwin?
[21:39] <tweek> cam killall nano says nano: no process found
[21:39] <EagleScreen> tweek: ps aux | grep nano << look at the output
[21:40] <EagleScreen> jschall:  __GL_FSAA_MODE=9 in command line
[21:41] <EagleScreen> jschall: check its value with: echo $ __GL_FSAA_MODE=9
[21:41] <tweek> http://pastebin.com/m3890cda6
[21:41] <EagleScreen> sudo kill 2057
[21:41] <EagleScreen> sudo kill 2058
[21:42] <tweek> nope
[21:42] <tweek> still there
[21:42] <tweek> it gave me nothing back when i typed that
[21:42] <tweek> but they are still listed in jobs
[21:42] <EagleScreen> tweek: fg 1
[21:42] <EagleScreen> and exit nano
[21:43] <tweek> closed my term
[21:43] <EagleScreen> well done lol
[21:43] <tweek> lol
[21:43] <tweek> no jobs
[21:43] <tweek> now what
[21:43] <EagleScreen> check they are closed
[21:43] <tweek> they did
[21:43] <EagleScreen> ok
[21:43] <tweek> i checked in jobs and nothing
[21:44] <EagleScreen> i think it is a bad idea use nano with &
[21:44] <EagleScreen> that tutorial need a reviw
[21:44] <tweek> ok so what should i do?
[21:44] <EagleScreen> kdesudo kate /etc/pango32/pangorc &
[21:45] <EagleScreen> and copy the lines in the tutorial
[21:45] <tweek> then just save?
[21:46] <EagleScreen> yes
[21:46] <EagleScreen> save and close
[21:46] <tweek> QThreadStorage: Thread 0xf851c0 exited after QThreadStorage 2147483636 destroyed
[21:46] <tweek> no cl
[21:47] <tweek> alright i ctrl + c
[21:47] <tweek> now for the sudo nano /usr/local/bin/firefox32 &
[21:47] <tweek> what do you want me to do lol
[21:48] <EagleScreen> kdesudo kate /usr/local/bin/firefox32 &
[21:48] <EagleScreen> kdesudo kate: open the supplied file in grpahical editor as root
[21:49] <tweek> ok and i got a error 1 sec
[21:50] <tweek> i'm finishing up i just typed in the firefox32 &
[21:50] <tweek> http://pastebin.com/m39aea3f1
[21:51] <EagleScreen> is important that error?
[21:52] <EagleScreen> it is stopping you?
[21:52] <tweek> nope
[21:52] <EagleScreen> then continue and ignore those warnings
[21:52] <tweek> ok
[21:52] <tweek> and might you know how to make a shortcut for firefox32 &
[21:53] <tweek> oh and do i need to download a special java for 32bit or just sudo apt-get sun-java-jdk
[21:54] <EagleScreen> dont know about what java version you need now
[21:54] <EagleScreen> creating a link is easy
[21:55] <tweek> how would i go about doing that?
[21:58] <EagleScreen> ln -s source_file dest_file
[21:58] <EagleScreen> do you mean a link on the Desktop or K-Menu?
[21:59] <tweek> desktop
[21:59] <tweek> i'm not picky :P
[22:00] <tweek> guessing the k-menu would be more work :P
[22:00] <EagleScreen> richt clik on desktop and new link to application
[22:01] <tweek> what do i have to type in there
[22:02] <tweek> nvm i guessed and got it to work :)
[22:02] <tweek> thanks a ton :)
[22:02] <tweek> now for java, then teamspeak, then to try to get this wireless card to work...
[22:02] <tweek> the wireless card is going to kill me ffs
[22:03] <tweek> oh well i'll figure something out :)
[22:10] <hackndoes> can anyone please tell me how do i start a cam talk with someone on kopete?
[22:10] <hackndoes> i can't find the darn button for that
[22:14] <Shockrates> guys i have kubuntu 9.10 rc on a laptop, my subwoofer doesnt work. help
[22:15] <hackndoes> anyone?
[22:17] <Bou> kackndoes: you can't
[22:18] <dmatt> hackndoes: my cam works in kopete configuration dialog, but i do not remember i used it in kopete,
[22:18] <Shockrates> HELP MPOTHF
[22:18] <Shockrates> A
[22:18] <Shockrates> S
[22:18] <FloodBotK1> Shockrates: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:18] <hackndoes> mine works in the configuration as well, only i can't find a way to use it when talking to someone
[22:19] <hackndoes> my question is how to activate it in a call
[22:19] <Bou> hackndoes: you CAN'T
[22:19] <hackndoes> why?
[22:19] <Bou> hackndoes, dmatt: http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=63104
[22:20] <Bou> because it has been deactivated a while ago, and not reimplemented yet apparently
[22:20] <hackndoes> Bou: thanks
[22:20] <hackndoes> seems like it.
[22:21] <Bou> hackndoes: you want to share cam on MSN protocol?
[22:21] <hackndoes> yes
[22:21] <hackndoes> amsn doesn't work for me though
[22:21] <hackndoes> not quite well, any other suggestions?
[22:21] <Bou> hackndoes: oh :( i was about to tell you to use amsn
[22:21] <Bou> nope sorry
[22:21] <hackndoes> well maybe you can help me make it work sec
[22:22] <Bou> hum i don't use amsn myself so not sure how i could help..
[22:22] <EagleScreen> amsn works for cam, but not for audio
[22:22] <hackndoes> not for audio?
[22:22] <Bou> damn :)
[22:22] <hackndoes> so i need to speak on skype an watch on amsn :)
[22:22] <Bou> hehe
[22:22] <EagleScreen> current amsn package for karmic is broken for audio
[22:22] <Bou> or use Skype for both
[22:22] <Bou> i used Skype for video/phone call without problem a while ago
[22:23] <Bou> it should be still good
[22:23] <hackndoes> Bou: yeh but not very possible the cam seem to show green shit instead of a view of me
[22:23] <hackndoes> it's very unsupported this skype thing
[22:23] <hackndoes> very old versions for linux
[22:24] <Bou> what is your version?
[22:24] <varanus_> hackndoes: try opening it with the following command: LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib32/libv4l/v4l2convert.so skype
[22:24] <hackndoes> the latest i got from skype
[22:24] <hackndoes> varanus_: thanks will try that now
[22:24] <EagleScreen> skype 2.1.0 in medibuntu
[22:25] <Bou> mine is 2.0 and it was working
[22:25] <varanus_> the video format of skype is a bit old, i use skype with ps3 eye webcam with this command that converts the signal to one supported by skype
[22:25] <Bou> (well at least was working, since it seems my webcam is not recognized anymore =) )
[22:26] <Bou> gtg, gnight all
[22:26] <varanus_> nn
[22:27] <hackndoes> varanus_: tried it, it seem to work for cam (not sure till talk to someone) but i can this at console: -> bt_audio_service_open: connect() failed: Connection refused (111)
[22:27] <hackndoes> seems audio is scrued?
[22:27] <hackndoes> it's working though
[22:27] <varanus_> the mic is integrated to the webcam?
[22:32] <hackndoes> there is one, i am not using it, probably that is y, great
[22:32] <hackndoes> varanus_: you seem  to be vary femiliar with these things
[22:32] <hackndoes> you are a pro
[22:32] <varanus_> hackndoes: i'm a noob
[22:32] <hackndoes> really, doesn't look like it :)
[22:33] <hackndoes> well probably less noob then mee
[22:33] <varanus_> :) i found this solution trying to install playstation eye to kubuntu and had the same problem with the green screen
[22:34] <varanus_> so i've only searched a bit, but the irc is usefull cause it's more interactive and you can share a solution the worked for you :). that's all
[22:36] <hackndoes> true, though i didn't do a good reserch myself b4 consulting you
[22:36] <hackndoes> which is not very much like me
[22:39] <varanus_> hackndoes: that's y irc exists. if you're lucky someone will have had the same problem and help you pass over ;)
[22:39] <hackndoes> true, i love this way of communication
[22:40] <varanus_> so hackndoes does everything works now?
[22:40] <hackndoes> it's very important to me cause my gf left for china for 4 months (more like my wife to be) and i see her and everything but she doesn't see me
[22:40] <hackndoes> varanus_: yes, works great
[22:40] <hackndoes> i think, i will only know when i talk to her
[22:40] <varanus_> happy to hear that. i know how it is :)
[22:41] <varanus_> if it works in the settings and you can hear you voice from skype test calling service then most probably it's ok
[22:41] <hackndoes> before it worked for me locally but on the call window it was green so real time willl be the best test
[22:41] <varanus_> hackndoes: gl then.
[22:41] <hackndoes> gl?
[22:41] <hackndoes> oh good luck
[22:42] <varanus_> good luck :)
[22:42] <hackndoes> thanks, i really hope it will work
[22:42] <varanus_> and goodnight
[22:42] <varanus_> ;)
[22:42] <hackndoes> you helped me a lot
[22:42] <varanus_> it will
[22:42] <hackndoes> good night
[22:42] <varanus_> nn
[23:04] <jjessie> greetings, I'm running netbook-remix and since my last dist-upgrade I can't get the desktop to load completely, the splash screen shows and when it gets to the desktop icon it goes black and dumps me back into kdm.. I've done another dist-upgrade thinking it might help but it hasn't.. what can i do to fix outside of reinstall? thx in advance
[23:05] <jjessie> kubuntu-netbook-remix to be specific :)
[23:06] <Fanfare> jjessie: iirc u can select another session in kdm...
[23:07] <jjessie> Fanfare: yes, my other choice is failsafe which also dumps me back to the login.. I've tried moving .kde to .kde_bak to let kde make new conf files but that doesn't seem to help
[23:08] <jjessie> I really don't want to re-install I've finally got things the way I want them.. if I could just figure out how to get kde running again I'd be golden
[23:08] <Fanfare> jjessie: hm, the diff between netbook and regular is plasma-netbook insted of plasma-desktop...
[23:08] <jjessie> yes afaik
[23:10] <Fanfare> jjessie: i think reinstalling all plasma things... but just a guess...
[23:10] <kb9vqf_> !kde3 is Kubuntu 8.04 ships with KDE3 and full support. Jaunty and Karmic do not include KDE3 but a remix install CD can be obtained at  https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Kde3/Jaunty or https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Kde3/Karmic. This is not officially supported. Support, instructions and ways to contribute can be found on the wiki pages
[23:10] <jjessie> Fanfare: one of the errors in .xsession-errors says "plasma-netbook: cannot connect to X server :0"
[23:11] <jjessie> perhaps this is my problem.. but why wouldn't it have access?? and if that's the problem startx as root should fix but it doesn't
[23:13] <rasstar> i think i like the kubuntu enviroment over ubuntu
[23:14] <rasstar> is that the only difference?
[23:14] <Roey> hi all
[23:14] <Roey> question...
[23:14] <Roey> I *really* need help here and it's not that complicated I don't think..
[23:15] <Roey> I have md0, md1, md2 and md3
[23:15] <Roey> these are mapped to /dev/sd{a,b}1, /dev/sd{a,b}2, /dev/sd{a,b}3 and /dev/sd{a,b}4, rspectively
[23:16] <Roey> I have an old ubuntu install on /dev/md0 (that is, /dev/sda{a,b}1) that the system keeps trying to boot to
[23:16] <Roey> even though I completely wiped it out with mkfs.ext4 /dev/md0
[23:16] <Roey> I tried installing grub on /dev/md1 (that is, /dev/sd{a,b}2
[23:16] <Roey> but the thing keeps trying to boot with /boot on /dev/md0 (that is, /dev/sd{a,b}1)
[23:17] <Roey> how do I RMOVE grub off of /dev/md0 ??
[23:20] <kb9vqf_> Roey: How did you reinstall Grub?
[23:20] <kb9vqf_> Roey: You will need to run setup(sdx) for EVERY drive in your system,
[23:20] <Roey> grub>boot /dev/sda2
[23:20] <Roey> hrm
[23:20] <Roey> I only have two drives in this softraid1 array btw
[23:21] <Roey> so grub>setup sda1
[23:21] <kb9vqf_> Roey: Yes
[23:21] <Roey> grub>setup sdb1
[23:21] <Roey> ?
[23:21] <Roey> er, sda2 and sdb2
[23:21] <Roey> and how do I remove it from sda1 and sdb1?
[23:21] <kb9vqf_> Roey: I don't think you can
[23:21] <kb9vqf_> Roey: GRUB really "
[23:21] <kb9vqf_> Roey: GRUB really "wants" to be installed on the MBR
[23:21] <Roey> so how will it know to boot off of /dev/sda2 and not /dv/sda1 if grub's on both of them?
[23:21] <Roey> ah
[23:21] <Roey> well let it.
[23:21] <Roey> root is on /dev/sda3
[23:21] <FloodBotK1> Roey: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:22] <Roey> the problem is that /dev/sda1 and /dev/sdb2 are tiny...  about 100 megs
[23:22] <kb9vqf_> Roey: Right, that's why you run setup() for each and every drive
[23:22] <Roey> why do you write setup()
[23:22] <Roey> ?
[23:22] <Roey> is this th syntax?
[23:23] <kb9vqf_> Yes: from the Grub command line, you run root(md0) , then setup(sdx) for each and every drive.  Each time you run setup(), Grub is installed to that drive or partition.
[23:23] <kb9vqf_> If you install Grub to the MBR, the old Grub files sitting in the partitions will be ignored
[23:24] <Roey> so lemme get this straight:
[23:24] <kb9vqf_> Your BIOS may select a drive almost randomly to boot from (I have a BIOS that does that as well); this is why Grub must be installed on every drive's MBR
[23:24] <Roey> how do I write it to th MBR then?
[23:24] <kb9vqf_> using setup(sdx) instead of setup(sdx1)
[23:24] <kb9vqf_> Where sdx is sda, or sdb, etc
[23:25] <Roey> okay
[23:25] <Roey> and I have my /boot on /dev/sda2
[23:25] <Roey> er
[23:25] <Roey> /dev/md2
[23:25] <Roey> nono, /dev/md1
[23:25] <Roey> so setup(sda)
[23:25] <Roey> setup(sdb)
[23:25] <Roey> I'm running now from a livecd btw
[23:26] <kb9vqf_> Yup--but first you have to run root(hdn,m), where n and m are the drive number and partition of your boot files, respectively
[23:26] <kb9vqf_> To find that data, go to the Grub command line and type find /grub/stage1
[23:26] <kb9vqf_> It will spit out a list of hard drives and partition numbers where the boot files are located
[23:27] <Roey> Error 15: File not found
[23:27] <kb9vqf_> Try find /boot/grub/stage1
[23:27] <kb9vqf_> On the LiveCD, you may have to mount /dev and /proc to get Grub to function properly
[23:27] <Roey> they're already mounted
[23:28] <kb9vqf_> Have you chrooted into the filesystem (just being thorough ;))
[23:28] <Roey> omg
[23:28] <Roey> :)
[23:28] <Roey> nin
[23:28] <Roey> *nein
[23:28] <FloodBotK1> Roey: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:28] <Roey> So I'm on a liveCD currently--my system gives me "error 15" from Grub when I try to boot it without it.
[23:29] <kb9vqf_> Right; that means that the root() command was wrong
[23:29] <Roey> kb9vqf_: can I set root to an md device?
[23:29] <Roey> instead of to /dev/sda2 ?
[23:29] <kb9vqf_> Yes, but only if it is a mirroring array
[23:29] <Roey> (yes I know the syntax is diffrent)
[23:29] <Roey> ah
[23:29] <Roey> ys it is.
[23:30] <kb9vqf_> Then the find command should pick up _something_
[23:30] <Roey> it doesn't
[23:30] <kb9vqf_> If it doesn't, then your boot partition is not installed correctly
[23:30] <Roey> oik
[23:30] <Roey> *ok
[23:30] <Byron> What's the best method for creating a backup from one drive to another?
[23:31] <Roey> I man , in a fit of exasperation I issued mkfs.ext4 /dev/md0
[23:31] <Roey> wiping out /boot
[23:31] <Byron> Old drive is all on one partition. The new drive split '/' and '/home'
[23:31] <kb9vqf_> For the boot files, mount the old boot partition and the new boot partition, then cp -Rp from one to the other
[23:31] <Roey> (I have a /boot on /dev/md1 that I want to switch it to anyway)
[23:31] <Roey> ah, true.
[23:32] <kb9vqf_> Well, once you have /boot back in place, re-issue the find command and use the root() command in Grub
[23:32] <kb9vqf_> That should get you running :)
[23:32] <Roey> hmm ok.
[23:32] <Roey> How do I start raid again?
[23:32] <Roey> I tried:
[23:32] <kb9vqf_> mdadm --assemble --scan
[23:32] <Roey> dmraid -a /dev/sda1 /dev/sda2
[23:33] <Roey> ahhhhhhhhhh one sec
[23:33] <FloodBotK1> Roey: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:33] <kb9vqf_> then try a cat /proc/mdstat
[23:33] <kb9vqf_> (to make sure the arrays are actually online)
[23:35] <kb9vqf_> Anyway, I have to run, so if you want more help send me a poke; I might respond if I'm around later.  Good luck!
[23:35] <Roey> oh:
[23:35] <Roey> I've managed to star tthe array and copy the contents of /dev/md1's /boot to /dev/md0
[23:35] <kb9vqf_> That was fast!  OK, go back to Grub and try the find command
[23:35] <Roey> if I reset, will grub detect the kernel there?
[23:35] <Roey> ah, one sec.
[23:36] <kb9vqf_> Probably not
[23:36] <Roey> is it 'find /boot/grub/Stage1.5' ?
[23:37] <Roey> also, must I have /dev/md0 on /boot now?
[23:37] <kb9vqf_> No, it's: find /grub/stage1
[23:37] <kb9vqf_> Yes
[23:37] <Roey> I've mounted it in /mnt
[23:37] <Roey> ah, oik.
[23:37] <kb9vqf_> Well, not right now, but when you reboot, yes
[23:37] <tweek> hey does anyone know how to add aoss to the launcher link of teamspeak?
[23:37] <Roey> well for the purposes of running grub right now though
[23:37] <kb9vqf_> Roey: Just make sure you update your /etc/fstab file before rebooting
[23:38] <Roey> grub> find /boot/grub/stage1
[23:38] <Roey> find /boot/grub/stage1
[23:38] <Roey> Error 15: File not found
[23:38] <tweek> hey does anyone know how to add aoss to the launcher link of teamspeak?
[23:38] <afeijo> can I play divx files in a livecd ?
[23:38] <kb9vqf_> Roey: not /boot/grub/stage1, /grub/stage1
[23:38] <Roey> grub> find /grub/stage1
[23:38] <Roey> find /grub/stage1
[23:38] <Roey> Error 15: File not found
[23:38] <kb9vqf_> Uh oh
[23:38] <afeijo> I try to install vlc, w32codecs and other stuff... apt-get fails to find it
[23:38] <kb9vqf_> Do an ls -l /<your boot mountpoint>/grub
[23:39] <afeijo> or it find it but say it is referended by other package
[23:39] <Roey> grub> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ ls -l /boot/grub/
[23:39] <Roey> total 7
[23:39] <Roey> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root  191 2009-10-26 23:34 default
[23:39] <Roey> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1024 2009-10-26 23:34 grubenv
[23:39] <Roey> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4316 2009-10-26 23:34 menu.lst
[23:39] <FloodBotK1> Roey: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:39] <kb9vqf_> Hmmm, no stage1 file?
[23:39] <kb9vqf_> That would be your problem!
[23:39] <Roey> hrm doesn't look like.
[23:39] <Roey> ah!
[23:39] <Roey> ok
[23:39] <Roey> how can I fix this?
[23:39] <Roey> setup(sda) and setup(sdb) ?
[23:39] <kb9vqf_> No
[23:39] <FloodBotK1> Roey: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:39] <Roey> oh
[23:39] <afeijo> can I play divx files with the k9.04 livecd ?
[23:39] <kb9vqf_> The Grub package wasn't installed
[23:40] <Roey> eeeek
[23:40] <kb9vqf_> You might be able to fix it by mimicking the complete filesystem on the LiveCD, then running apt-get install grub
[23:40] <Roey> that's what I thought of doing
[23:40] <kb9vqf_> For example, you would need to mount your root device in, say, /disk, then mount your boot partition in /disk/boot
[23:40] <kb9vqf_> then chroot /disk
[23:41] <afeijo> I am repartitioning my HD, it will take looong time, so I was wanting to watch some videos ;) but I cant install vlc :( help
[23:41] <Roey> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo chroot /tmp/
[23:41] <Roey> root@ubuntu:/# ls /boot/
[23:41] <Roey> abi-2.6.31-14-generic     grub                          memtest86+.bin                vmcoreinfo-2.6.31-14-generic
[23:41] <Roey> config-2.6.31-14-generic  initrd.img-2.6.31-14-generic  System.map-2.6.31-14-generic  vmlinuz-2.6.31-14-generic
[23:41] <FloodBotK1> Roey: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:41] <kb9vqf_> Roey: that might work--try it!
[23:42] <kb9vqf_> If it says Grub is already installed, run ""
[23:42] <kb9vqf_> aptitude reinstall grub-pc
[23:42] <kb9vqf_> or
[23:42] <kb9vqf_> aptitude reinstall grub
[23:42] <Roey> kb9vqf_: not grub?
[23:42] <kb9vqf_> (depending on the version of Grub you have installed)
[23:42] <Roey> what is the difference?
[23:42] <kb9vqf_> Grub v1 is grub, Grub v2 is grub-pc
[23:42] <afeijo> what do I need to apt-get install w32codecs successfully?
[23:42] <kb9vqf_> grub-pc handles RAID better than grub
[23:43] <Roey> Setting up grub-pc (1.97~beta4-1ubuntu3) ...
[23:43] <Roey> Creating config file /etc/default/grub with new version
[23:43] <Roey> Processing triggers for initramfs-tools ...
[23:43] <Roey> update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.31-14-generic
[23:43] <Roey> ok, it installed that.
[23:43] <FloodBotK1> Roey: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:43] <Roey> now... I'll enter grub and do the find, one sec
[23:44] <Roey> root@ubuntu:/# grub
[23:44] <Roey> bash: /usr/sbin/grub: No such file or directory
[23:44] <Roey> root@ubuntu:/# grub2
[23:44] <Roey> No command 'grub2' found, did you mean:
[23:44] <Roey>  Command 'grub' from package 'grub' (main)
[23:44] <Roey> grub2: command not found
[23:44] <Roey> eeeek!
[23:44] <FloodBotK1> Roey: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:44] <kb9vqf_> Run grub
[23:44] <kb9vqf_> The binary file name is the same
[23:44] <Roey> root@ubuntu:/# grub
[23:44] <Roey> bash: /usr/sbin/grub: No such file or directory
[23:44] <kb9vqf_> Are you running that from the chroot?
[23:44] <Roey> aye
[23:44] <kb9vqf_> Hang on
[23:44] <Roey> ok
[23:45] <afeijo> do I need mediabuntu here ?
[23:46] <kb9vqf_> Roey: Hmmm...there is no grub binary in grub-pc.  It should auto-detect your boot partition I guess
[23:46] <kb9vqf_> Try /usr/sbin/grub-install
[23:46] <kb9vqf_> to install grub on each of your hard drives
[23:46] <Roey> you mean /dev/sda and /dev/sdb
[23:46] <Roey> or /dev/sda2 and /dev/sdb2
[23:46] <kb9vqf_> Technically, it would be /usr/sbin/grub-install /dev/sda
[23:46] <Roey> er
[23:46] <kb9vqf_> and /usr/sbin/grub-install /dev/sdb
[23:46] <Roey> oh, ok
[23:47] <kb9vqf_> You should see Grub auto-detecting your filesystem when you run those commands
[23:47] <Roey> how do I make it boot off /dev/md1 (that is, /dev/sd{a,b}2) >
[23:47] <Roey> root@ubuntu:/# /usr/sbin/grub-install /dev/sda
[23:47] <Roey> grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for /boot/grub.
[23:47] <Roey> No path or device is specified.
[23:47] <Roey> Try ``grub-probe --help'' for more information.
[23:47] <Roey> Auto-detection of a filesystem module failed.
[23:47] <Roey> Please specify the module with the option `--modules' explicitly.
[23:47] <FloodBotK1> Roey: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:47] <kb9vqf_> Edit /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[23:48] <Roey> ah, it's empty
[23:48] <kb9vqf_> Run /usr/sbin/upgrade-from-grub-legacy
[23:48] <Roey> root@ubuntu:/# /usr/sbin/upgrade-grub-from-legacy
[23:48] <Roey> bash: /usr/sbin/upgrade-grub-from-legacy: No such file or directory
[23:48] <kb9vqf_> What version of Ubuntu are you running?
[23:49] <Roey> nevermind it was the wrong name of that command
[23:49] <Roey> upgrade-from-grub-legacy
[23:49] <Roey> not upgrade-grub-from-legacy
[23:49] <Roey> :)
[23:49] <Roey> root@ubuntu:/# /usr/sbin/upgrade-from-grub-legacy
[23:49] <Roey> core.img doestn't exist, trying to create it.
[23:49] <Roey> grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for /boot/grub.
[23:49] <Roey> No path or device is specified.
[23:49] <FloodBotK1> Roey: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:49] <kb9vqf_> Hmmm...it can't seem to find your /boot directory.  Hang on a sec
[23:49] <Roey> aye
[23:49] <tweek> hey does anyone know how to add aoss to the launcher link of teamspeak?
[23:50] <kb9vqf_> Can you exit the chroot and post the output of "mount" on paste.ubuntu.com
[23:50] <Roey> ok
[23:50] <Roey> btw:
[23:50] <Roey> /boot in the chroot is on /dev/sd{a.b}2
[23:50] <kb9vqf_> And ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid
[23:51] <kb9vqf_> I just want to make sure nothing strange is going on :)
[23:51] <Roey> and I have this tiny 100 Mb parititon at the beginning of my partition table that used to house the old /boot
[23:52] <Roey> http://pastebin.com/m65aa4a88
[23:52] <kb9vqf_> Roey: Do you have the paste link for me?
[23:52] <kb9vqf_> There it is :)
[23:52] <Roey> :)
[23:52] <tweek> hey does anyone know how to add aoss to the launcher link of teamspeak?
[23:52] <kb9vqf_> Roey: OK, you have your root partition on /tmp, correct?
[23:53] <Roey> yes
[23:53] <Roey> and my old boot partition in /mnt
[23:53] <kaddi> hi, I'm looking for a nice little timer for kubuntu, any suggestions? :)
[23:53] <Roey> (9old boot is a tiny 100-meg partition at the beginning of my partition tables)
[23:53] <kb9vqf_> You need to mount your new boot partition to /tmp/boot
[23:53] <kb9vqf_> And unmount your old boot partition
[23:53] <Roey> ah, hahahaha okay that's what I suspected.
[23:53] <Roey> one moment
[23:54] <Roey> done
[23:54] <Roey> (and back into the chroot now)
[23:54] <kb9vqf_> And now the commands work?
[23:54] <Roey> tryign... standby
[23:55] <Roey> er which command
[23:55] <Roey> update-from-grub-lgacy ?
[23:55] <kb9vqf_> Yup
[23:55] <Roey> or grub-setup
[23:55] <Roey> ah one moment
[23:55] <FloodBotK1> Roey: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:55] <Roey> core.img doestn't exist, trying to create it.
[23:55] <Roey> grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for /boot/grub.
[23:55] <Roey> No path or device is specified.
[23:55] <Roey> Try ``grub-probe --help'' for more information.
[23:55] <Roey> Auto-detection of a filesystem module failed.
[23:55] <Roey> Please specify the module with the option `--modules' explicitly.
[23:55] <FloodBotK1> Roey: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:56] <kb9vqf_> Roey: ls -l /boot   from inside the chroot
[23:56] <tweek> hey does anyone know how to add aoss to the launcher link of teamspeak?
[23:56] <Roey> http://pastebin.com/m14be79f1
[23:57] <kb9vqf_> wierd
[23:57] <kb9vqf_> try editing your /etc/fstab file to change /boot to your UUID=f6e07195-bfa4-42da-9b78-a464b19a8223
[23:58] <kb9vqf_> (that's md0)
[23:58] <kb9vqf_> Then run update-from-grub-legacy again
[23:59] <Roey> hrm
[23:59] <Roey> one moment: