| wgrant | lifeless: I see you added Intrepid to dev.lp.net/FAQ. LP is no longer supported on Intrepid, so it is tempting to remove it. | 00:11 |
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| lifeless | wgrant: go for it | 00:15 |
| lifeless | wgrant: I was only making the bzr recommendation more complete | 00:15 |
| wgrant | lifeless: I've replaced it with Hardy. | 00:15 |
| lifeless | recommending 1.17 was nuts | 00:16 |
| lifeless | :) | 00:16 |
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| thumper | btw, it is a public holiday in nz today :) | 01:14 |
| lifeless | gstq? | 01:17 |
| rockstar | mwhudson, around? | 03:23 |
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| al-maisan | Good morning | 06:12 |
| MTecknology | so... now I see why that project I was going to work on got "fast-tracked" | 07:12 |
| MTecknology | hopefully I can still help out :) | 07:12 |
| wgrant | What got fasttracked? | 07:17 |
| MTecknology | the upstream bug forwarding | 07:17 |
| adeuring | good morning | 08:23 |
| al-maisan | moin adeuring | 08:26 |
| adeuring | hi al-maisan! | 08:27 |
| mrevell | Morning! | 09:14 |
| deryck | Morning, all. | 10:00 |
| mrevell | deryck: Are you lot still on summer time? | 10:32 |
| deryck | mrevell, yes, until this coming weekend, I believe. | 10:33 |
| mrevell | deryck: Ah, that explains why you seem to be an hour early :) | 10:33 |
| deryck | mrevell, :) | 10:34 |
| deryck | I almost got up an hour earlier today, too. That would have really messed with you. | 10:35 |
| mrevell | :) | 10:36 |
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| BjornT_ | deryck: gmb is away this week, right? could you please take a look at my post-merge review of r9757 that i sent to launchpad-dev? it needs some attention, since it might break the JS in some browsers. | 10:48 |
| deryck | BjornT_, sure, I can look at that. | 10:48 |
| deryck | BjornT_, yeah, I'll fix that today. | 10:50 |
| wgrant | No bigjools today? | 10:51 |
| noodles775 | wgrant: he won't be available until next Monday. | 10:52 |
| wgrant | noodles775: Ah, thanks. | 10:52 |
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| gary_poster | barry: morning. :-) should I send out the sprint announcement email? Do you have anything to add? | 13:05 |
| barry | gary_poster: i sent it out on saturday (i thought) | 13:08 |
| gary_poster | barry, oh you did! sorry, I was trying to keep an eye out for it but missed it. thank you! | 13:09 |
| barry | np! please add anything i missed | 13:09 |
| gary_poster | :-) looks good to me | 13:12 |
| barry | thanks! can't wait for it to land :) | 13:15 |
| * mrevell --> rebooting | 13:24 | |
| EdwinGrubbs | bac: the solution I had for aligning things to the right conditionally is the table-actions css class. Its basic structure is <div><table/><ul class="table-actions"/></div>. If the table doesn't exist, the links are aligned to the left, otherwise to the right. | 13:52 |
| EdwinGrubbs | bac: you can see an example of this for the "Create milestone" link on https://edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/2.1 and https://edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/trunk | 13:52 |
| intellectronica | so i'm trying to hack on karmic, but i don't seem to have the module cProfile. does anyone know which package i need to install? also, what needs to be fixed for it to be installed as a dependency? | 13:53 |
| BjornT_ | intellectronica: cProfile.py is a symlink in lib/ | 13:59 |
| intellectronica | hmmmm ... interesting, so why am i missing it? | 13:59 |
| BjornT_ | intellectronica: where does the symlink point to? does that file exist? | 14:05 |
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| barry | bac: it's been 2 weeks since i did a 'make schema'. does it ever end? vacuuming steps are taking FOREVER | 14:29 |
| leonardr | barry, i have a wsgi question | 14:31 |
| leonardr | i've defined a class that implements a 3-argument __call__ | 14:31 |
| leonardr | then instantiated the class and passed the instance in to wsgi_intercept as a wsgi application | 14:32 |
| leonardr | my __call__ is being triggered, but only one argument is being passed in (Self) | 14:32 |
| leonardr | this goes against what i know about wsgi and other wsgi code i've written | 14:32 |
| leonardr | do you know what might be wrong? | 14:32 |
| barry | leonardr: off-hand i don't. i'd be happy to look into it with you if you want | 14:34 |
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| leonardr | barry: i'll commit and push | 14:36 |
| barry | leonardr: okay | 14:36 |
| stub | barry: define FOREVER? | 14:39 |
| leonardr | barry: lp:~leonardr/launchpadlib/wsgi-fake-launchpad | 14:40 |
| leonardr | the wsgi class is defined in testing/helpers.py | 14:40 |
| leonardr | set up in tests/test_browser.py | 14:40 |
| barry | stub: an hour at least so far | 14:43 |
| barry | leonardr: grabbing | 14:43 |
| jml | hey guys | 14:44 |
| stub | barry: That is very broken. I recommend rebuilding the database, as alternative methods of recovery will also likely take hours. | 14:44 |
| jml | I've linked to a non-existing page https://dev.launchpad.net/UserStories | 14:44 |
| barry | stub: is rocketfuel-setup enough to do that? | 14:44 |
| jml | I think it would be a good idea to edit that page to provide a general description of what user stories are and how we use them. | 14:44 |
| jml | flacoste, ^^ | 14:44 |
| stub | barry: Doesn't look like it. | 14:46 |
| flacoste | jml: ok, i can have a stab at it this afternoon | 14:46 |
| barry | stub: okay. i know there's a wiki page with the gory details. will check that; thanks | 14:46 |
| jml | flacoste, thanks. | 14:48 |
| stub | barry: https://dev.launchpad.net/DatabaseSetup , step 4 is what you want I think | 14:48 |
| barry | stub: awesome, thanks | 14:48 |
| stub | barry: And the subsequent steps too | 14:49 |
| deryck | leonardr, ping | 14:54 |
| leonardr | deryck: hello | 14:54 |
| deryck | leonardr, hi. in the js client I've got lint warnings with for-in constructions, in lines unrelated to my changes. Easy to fix, but wanted to check with you first. See: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/302098/ | 14:55 |
| deryck | leonardr, just wanted to make sure this wasn't intentionally left out, before I fixed it. :) | 14:56 |
| leonardr | deryck, i don't see a problem with fixing that | 14:56 |
| deryck | leonardr, cool, thanks. | 14:57 |
| barry | leonardr: going on a c/c so it might be a little while | 15:00 |
| leonardr | barry, ok | 15:01 |
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| bac | sinzui: i opened bug 461164 to track the +download issue. i didn't include your comments on the design decision as it is outside the scope of this fix. | 15:05 |
| mup | Bug #461164: Project +download page has extra vertical space <Launchpad Registry:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/461164> | 15:05 |
| leonardr | barry, i think i'm misusing wsgi_intercept | 15:06 |
| sinzui | bac: That is a prudent decision. Thanks | 15:06 |
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| leonardr | barry: yes, i've solved it | 15:15 |
| barry | leonardr: great! glad i could "help" ;) | 15:16 |
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| bac | sinzui: in https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-registry/+bug/461164 i don't understand the issue with breadcrumbs | 15:52 |
| mup | Bug #461164: Project +download page has extra vertical space <Launchpad Registry:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/461164> | 15:52 |
| sinzui | bac there is an xmlns on the ol. This implies that the template did not declare the namespace, so it was not stripped | 15:53 |
| * sinzui cannot find what renders the breadcrumb <ol> | 15:54 | |
| bac | sinzui: every template i've looked at has that problem: product-index and person-index | 15:55 |
| bac | sinzui: check out https://edge.launchpad.net/~bac | 15:55 |
| sinzui | yes, it is a universsal screwup | 15:56 |
| jml | MTecknology, hi | 15:56 |
| bac | sinzui: but the templates all start with xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" | 15:57 |
| sinzui | I do not think @@+hierarchy does | 15:58 |
| MTecknology | jml: g'morning | 15:58 |
| sinzui | actually, launchpad-hierarchy does, but something must be wrong since it is not handled like other pages | 15:58 |
| jml | MTecknology, how's things? | 15:58 |
| MTecknology | jml: good, you? | 15:59 |
| jml | MTecknology, good :) wishing I were spending more time in emacs and less time in GMail :) | 15:59 |
| MTecknology | emacs ... makes little children in nigeria sad | 16:00 |
| jml | MTecknology, Uganda, I think you'll find. | 16:00 |
| MTecknology | :P | 16:00 |
| jml | MTecknology, how's the project going? | 16:00 |
| MTecknology | which one? | 16:01 |
| MTecknology | the bug forwarding? | 16:01 |
| jml | MTecknology, well, the uni project in general | 16:01 |
| MTecknology | so far they're still pending approval at the state | 16:01 |
| sinzui | bac: I would not spend more than 15 more minutes fixing the breadcrumb namespace. It is a separate problem, and I do not see anything obvious in the template | 16:02 |
| jml | MTecknology, ahh ok. | 16:02 |
| MTecknology | jml: Since you guys are taking up that module, by part in it won't be so bad. I just need to keep up on what's going on and do my best to help out in a few places and make nice pretty reports | 16:03 |
| MTecknology | not module, project | 16:04 |
| MTecknology | I've been messing with modules for ~20hr so far this week | 16:04 |
| barry | stub: something's still broken. i believe i've done all the steps on DatabaseSetup. 'make schema' runs cleanly. 'make run' fails: http://paste.ubuntu.com/302138/ | 16:05 |
| stub | barry: Did you add the listed chunk to the *top* of pg_hba.conf, and did you 'pg_ctlcluster 8.3 main reload' ? | 16:07 |
| MTecknology | jml: how busy you been? | 16:07 |
| stub | (top == first uncommented line of course) | 16:07 |
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| barry | stub: um. i did now. ;) thanks! it's working | 16:09 |
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| jml | MTecknology, more than usual :) | 16:45 |
| MTecknology | jml: it's that gosh darned stock market i tellz u; it makes the world so so busy :P | 16:46 |
| jml | MTecknology, heh | 16:47 |
| MTecknology | apparently I don't get to slack off my senior year in college.. | 16:47 |
| jml | MTecknology, what is this world coming to! | 16:47 |
| MTecknology | like, i know; right? | 16:47 |
| MTecknology | I just need to learn how to set priorities and learn that sleep can't be the last or the one I mark 'when unavoidable' :P | 16:48 |
| MTecknology | I say this while I chat online instead of paying attention in class | 16:48 |
| MTecknology | food time - ttayl | 16:49 |
| jml | MTecknology, ciao | 16:52 |
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| jml | g'night all | 18:04 |
| mrevell | nytol | 18:12 |
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| MTecknology | ciao? | 18:55 |
| mwhudson | good morning | 19:12 |
| barry | sinzui: is this what you had in mind for bug 436503? http://people.canonical.com/~barry/public.png http://people.canonical.com/~barry/private.png ? | 19:25 |
| mup | Bug #436503: Team privacy portlet inconsistent with the rest <post-3-ui-cleanup> <trivial> <Launchpad Registry:Triaged by barry> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/436503> | 19:25 |
| sinzui | Something is wrong | 19:26 |
| sinzui | ah! | 19:26 |
| sinzui | barry: we have two problems | 19:26 |
| sinzui | barry: Your example shows something that we said we would remove months ago | 19:27 |
| sinzui | barry: Can you provide an example or a Private team? We really need to drop private membership teams next week | 19:28 |
| barry | sinzui: this bug is all about the ui | 19:28 |
| sinzui | barry: I was expecting to see private in bold like we show private bugs, then I realised your example was not a private team | 19:28 |
| sinzui | barry: yes, but your example is not a private team | 19:28 |
| barry | sinzui: http://launchpad.dev/~myteam (well, it's a private membership team) | 19:29 |
| sinzui | barry: private-membership should not exist we suck we said we would remove them in June. We double suck | 19:30 |
| sinzui | barry: please show me an example of a TRUE private team | 19:30 |
| * sinzui does not want to design for something that should not exist | 19:30 | |
| barry | sinzui: http://people.canonical.com/~barry/realprivate.png | 19:30 |
| barry | sinzui: the ui changes are fairly simple and apply to all three PersonVisibility states | 19:32 |
| sinzui | barry: the formatting is fixed, but that does not tell me it is private. I need to read the CSS to know what is happening. What does it take to say "Private team" | 19:32 |
| barry | sinzui: do you still want it to also say "Viewable by team members" or delete that text and /just/ say "Private team"? | 19:33 |
| sinzui | barry: that first part certainly is an understatement. Because the name is not knowable either | 19:34 |
| sinzui | We do not say for private bugs: this bug is only viewable to subscribers | 19:34 |
| sinzui | maybe we should do that though. | 19:34 |
| barry | sinzui: i'd have to ask bac but i think that extra explanatory text for teams is there because no one really understand what a private membership team is. ripping those out seems out of scope for this particular bug <wink> | 19:35 |
| barry | sinzui: so i think we have a few ui choices here. | 19:35 |
| sinzui | barry: do you think we should state state <Public|Private> <object>. This <object> is visible to <subscribers|members|Illuminati> | 19:36 |
| barry | sinzui: one possibility is that the text could just say "Public team" "Private team" "Private membership team" and have a help popup that contains that little explanatory text | 19:36 |
| barry | sinzui: i'm not sure that it's always helpful to do that, no. but on a help popup or balloon text, maybe so | 19:37 |
| barry | sinzui: i would opt for keeping things simple on the page and elaborating in secondary text, e.g. (?) help | 19:37 |
| sinzui | barry: I think the formatting that you are most concerned about is fine. I would prefer that the private team state is private, but I recognise that is a separate issue. r=me for the format change | 19:39 |
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| barry | sinzui: that's r=me for the screen shots i just posted? no additional change necessary? | 19:40 |
| rockstar | Good morning mwhudson. | 19:41 |
| sinzui | No. other changes. We need consistent messaging about what public/private and what that means to the users. That is a separate bug that affects all apps. | 19:42 |
| barry | sinzui: +1 | 19:42 |
| * barry makes the tests pass | 19:42 | |
| sinzui | barry: ! destroy any story test that is checking markup. | 19:43 |
| barry | sinzui: good idea | 19:44 |
| sinzui | barry: Since we agreed to change the format, not the message, any test that fails needs to made robust in case we change the formatting again | 19:44 |
| barry | sinzui: note, we did slightly change the message. for non-public teams it no longer prints the big fat <h2> | 19:45 |
| barry | sinzui: but yes, i will make sure the tests are sane | 19:45 |
| sinzui | barry: stories do not check markup. | 19:46 |
| sinzui | barry: One of the goals of the 3.0 conversion was to remove any story that checks implementation details | 19:46 |
| barry | sinzui: right. well, we'll see what tests fail | 19:46 |
| barry | sinzui: btw, i know what i want to work on next. remember what i did for projects? go to http://launchpad.net/~sinzui/+edit and scroll to the bottom of the page | 19:48 |
| sinzui | barry: We need a bug. If you do that, can you also fix bug 113562, bug 273180, and bug 430680 | 19:51 |
| mup | Bug #113562: "Change Branding" is unclear for people <post-3-ui-cleanup> <story-logos> <ui> <Launchpad Registry:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/113562> | 19:51 |
| mup | Bug #273180: 64x64 team branding image woes <post-3-ui-cleanup> <story-logos> <Launchpad Registry:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/273180> | 19:51 |
| mup | Bug #430680: IPerson's +edithomepage is redundant <post-3-ui-cleanup> <Launchpad Registry:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/430680> | 19:51 |
| barry | sinzui: +1 | 19:53 |
| sinzui | fab | 19:54 |
| sinzui | barry: the "woes" bug just requires that we explain where the images are used. We do not use an icon for a person today, but that may happen. | 19:55 |
| thumper | morning | 20:01 |
| rockstar | thumper, morning. | 20:07 |
| rockstar | thumper, was there a holiday in NZ yesterday? | 20:07 |
| thumper | yep | 20:08 |
| thumper | labour day | 20:08 |
| rockstar | thumper, ah. | 20:08 |
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| mwhudson | thumper: again | 20:16 |
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| rockstar | thumper, on the plus side, it didn't sound like we had a delay. :) | 20:19 |
| mwhudson | rockstar: i could hear you | 20:19 |
| rockstar | thumper, shall I try and call? | 20:19 |
| mwhudson | rockstar: but all thumper heard was plinky noises | 20:19 |
| thumper | rockstar: yeah, or abentley | 20:19 |
| thumper | rockstar: you try and see what you get | 20:19 |
| thumper | abentley: still on for our normal chat? | 20:37 |
| abentley | thumper: Sure. | 20:37 |
| intellectronica | thumper: morning | 20:44 |
| thumper | intellectronica: morning | 20:44 |
| intellectronica | thumper: i hear you're finding difficulties getting up and running with integrating lazr-js widgets. i wanted to offer my help and more importantly, suggest that we work together on documenting the process for future generations | 20:45 |
| thumper | intellectronica: on a call right now] | 20:46 |
| wgrant | intellectronica: Can you land that branch for me? | 20:46 |
| intellectronica | wgrant: oh, of course! i completely forgot that you need that landed by someone | 20:47 |
| wgrant | intellectronica: Thanks/ | 20:47 |
| intellectronica | wgrant: what commit message should i use? | 20:55 |
| intellectronica | wgrant: it will take a bit, since i need to run the test suite on it first, b.t.w | 20:56 |
| wgrant | intellectronica: 'Add IArchive.debug_archive, pointing to the corresponding debug archive.', I suppose. Thanks. | 20:57 |
| thumper | https://help.launchpad.net/HelpRotation | 21:06 |
| thumper | mwhudson: you might want to choose a week before one is chosen for you :) | 21:07 |
| mwhudson | thumper: done | 21:12 |
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| barry | bac: ping | 21:34 |
| bac | hi barry | 21:34 |
| barry | bac: hi. are you ocr tomorrow? | 21:34 |
| bac | barry: yes | 21:34 |
| barry | bac: great! i'll save this one for you. it's easy; related to team visibility | 21:35 |
| bac | barry: that's great. get it to me early, though. | 21:50 |
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| MTecknology | Can we add a feature to LP so that after the bug report gets to be 100 lines long (where it breaks off and stops displaying all comments) when they add a comment thy will get this big massive page pop up that takes over their entire keyboard and screen and mouse and says "Are you sure this IS NOT a 'me too' post?" and then a description below and forces them to stare at it for 5min and then scroll through every comment says "no | 22:37 |
| mwhudson | thumper: i notice a passing commit that makes Distribution.serieses a cachedproperty | 23:34 |
| mwhudson | thumper: does this mean that there's a hack that can be deleted in branchlisting.py ? | 23:34 |
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