| JontheEchidna | oh my: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pube5Aynsls | 02:35 |
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| ScottK | One of those times I'm glad Quassel has web preview so I don't actually click on the link. | 02:46 |
| JontheEchidna | just be glad the preview doesn't have flash support :P | 02:49 |
| JontheEchidna | or does it? That'd be annoying | 02:49 |
| ScottK | It doesn't. | 02:51 |
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| === m4v_ is now known as m4v | ||
| * Sput thinks it does | 08:22 | |
| ScottK | I probably fled in horror before it finished. | 09:30 |
| Riddell | morning happy testers | 09:54 |
| Sput | ScottK: I'm not 100% sure, but I think I've seen flash in the preview (maybe there's some configuration for QtWebkit too?) | 10:00 |
| Lex79 | ScottK: no svn found for kgmailnotifier, I sent an email to author hoping he responds today | 10:31 |
| Half-Left | I've just logged results of the ISO testing and it's all good. :) | 12:27 |
| ghostcube | ehlo folks | 12:36 |
| Tm_T | Half-Left: nice (: | 12:36 |
| Half-Left | Would be good to have a nice picture in the background, instead of a white screen while it's installing. :) | 12:38 |
| ubuntu_ | hi. i want to contribute to beta testing the karmic koala RC | 12:46 |
| ubuntu_ | I am backing up my old home directory while I am running from the live CD | 12:46 |
| ubuntu_ | as the regular update just destroyed the systems ability to boot | 12:47 |
| === ubuntu_ is now known as worufu | ||
| worufu | I did the update the day before yesterday (from 9.04 to 9.10) | 12:48 |
| worufu | sind then it was kind of a lottery game when booting | 12:48 |
| worufu | every 10th time or so it went through to KDM | 12:49 |
| worufu | when running almost everything was perfect | 12:49 |
| worufu | but today I never was able to get KDM running | 12:49 |
| worufu | it does some boot routine though.... but it is difficult to see what's going on... as there are many blank screens stealing the focus during boot process | 12:50 |
| worufu | is there any way I can contribute interesting data? | 12:50 |
| worufu | or shall I just proceed overwriting the existing install with an install from the live CD? | 12:50 |
| worufu | uhm.... #ubuntu-1 ? | 12:55 |
| worufu | #ubuntu+1 | 12:55 |
| Riddell | hi worufu | 13:02 |
| Riddell | if you have logs in /var/log/syslog that would be useful for a bug report | 13:02 |
| Riddell | going back to testing now but if you also are able to test installs that would be great | 13:06 |
| rgreening | o/ | 13:07 |
| * rgreening is a good looking developer.. ('notices topic') | 13:08 | |
| worufu | Riddell: I have syslogs available. but I have no clue where to contribute and post them | 13:08 |
| worufu | Riddell: just printed the syslog on the screen and noticed that the last lines were full of not human readable bytecode | 13:09 |
| worufu | sorry for starting off in the wrong channel... will hang around in #ubuntu+1 for a while | 13:16 |
| worufu | good luck with the upcoming release. I love your work. | 13:16 |
| seele | ScottK: you going to the md loco party saturday? | 13:22 |
| EagleScreen | is it expected to have video preview thumbnails in karmic? | 13:28 |
| rgreening | wow.. kmail imap is crashy | 13:28 |
| JontheEchidna | EagleScreen: if you install mplayerthumbs, yes | 13:29 |
| EagleScreen | anything else to do after installing it? | 13:30 |
| JontheEchidna | might have to enable plugins for videos in dolphin config | 13:30 |
| jussi01 | rgreening: use disconnected IMAP, works much better imho. | 13:31 |
| EagleScreen | yes, JontheEchidna, after changing configuration it is working | 13:32 |
| rgreening | mmm... bluetooth mouse... makes the mini10v touchpad issues irrelevant :) | 14:35 |
| jjesse | yes it does :) | 14:35 |
| rgreening | :) | 14:37 |
| * claydoh is jealous of y'all and your fancy netbooks :) | 14:38 | |
| claydoh | tho a 6 y/old laptop is nice enough for testing out kubuntu netbook :) | 14:42 |
| agateau | ScottK: ping | 14:47 |
| mcas | after the cd rebuild i'll start to test kubuntu i386 cd | 15:10 |
| mcas | one question about the iso testing... | 15:11 |
| mcas | why is the kubuntu testing organized here and not in ubuntu testing? only because of the "ubuntu"? | 15:12 |
| rgreening | is random playlist generation broken in amarok? | 15:24 |
| davmor2 | rgreening: it's only random it you have more than 1 track dude ;) | 15:29 |
| rgreening | lol. | 15:30 |
| rgreening | I have 5000 | 15:30 |
| rgreening | however, the random population doesn't happen and repopulate is greyed out. | 15:30 |
| neversfelde | agateau: the new plasma-widget-networkmanagment package breaks my wireless connection on two different laptops. They do not reconnect after suspend. It worked on both with 0.9~svn1029786-0ubuntu1. | 15:34 |
| agateau | neversfelde: oh, I thought it always "featured" this bug :/ | 15:42 |
| agateau | mmm | 15:42 |
| agateau | neversfelde: can you test the packages from https://launchpad.net/~agateau/+archive/ppa/+builds?build_text=plasma-widget-networkmanagement&build_state=built to pinpoint which one did introduce the breakage? | 15:45 |
| neversfelde | agateau: sure | 15:46 |
| agateau | neversfelde: thanks! | 15:46 |
| bbigras | I can't restart X with kdm with the RC. | 15:57 |
| bbigras | are you guys aware of this? | 15:57 |
| bbigras | also, the facebook plugin makes Kopete crash on exit | 16:01 |
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| Riddell | bbigras: facebook plugin got moved to universe because of that crash and other issues | 16:09 |
| Riddell | bbigras: kdm's interaction with X seems to depend on X drivers as much as anything, what graphics card? | 16:09 |
| bbigras | Riddell: nvidia | 16:09 |
| Riddell | bbigras: restarting from the kdm login screen? | 16:10 |
| bbigras | Riddell: yes | 16:10 |
| Riddell | works fine here with intel | 16:11 |
| Riddell | so I'd suspect it's an issue with nvidia drivers | 16:12 |
| bbigras | Riddell: would .xsession-errors provide any hints? | 16:12 |
| Riddell | possibly | 16:12 |
| bbigras | One of the last thing I saw in this file was kwin crashing. I'll try it again in 5-10 minutes | 16:13 |
| rgreening | hey Riddell | 16:17 |
| Riddell | hi rgreening | 16:18 |
| rgreening | how are things coming along since Ive been away Riddell | 16:18 |
| Riddell | well we fixed all the bugs and we're almost set to do a release :) | 16:18 |
| rgreening | all the bugs :) | 16:19 |
| rgreening | haha | 16:19 |
| rgreening | funny man | 16:19 |
| rgreening | :) | 16:19 |
| rgreening | even bug #1 | 16:19 |
| ubottu | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1 (Timeout) | 16:19 |
| rgreening | lol | 16:19 |
| claydoh | hey, I can connect to my wireless, that must count for half the problems/gripes :) | 16:19 |
| Riddell | well obviously that'll only get fixed after release | 16:20 |
| rgreening | hahah | 16:21 |
| rgreening | I think I have more converts since my trip to winnipeg. :) | 16:21 |
| bbigras | Why on my laptop (1920x1200) I need to set the font size to 96 ppp to avoid weird big font problem and not on the other computers (with lower resolution) I have? | 16:21 |
| * rgreening spreads kubu love | 16:21 | |
| claydoh | Riddell: for the final release notes, should we try for a user-oriented type of format? | 16:21 |
| claydoh | Riddell: I am trying to come up with something more fun and interesting than the usual version-number-is-now-bigger sort of thing | 16:22 |
| claydoh | I converted a bud to Kubuntu this weekend :) | 16:23 |
| bbigras | btw I'm asking for the font size thing because the ubiquity is not really pretty with big fonts. | 16:23 |
| Riddell | claydoh: what would be changed? | 16:24 |
| claydoh | Riddell: dunno yet, brainstorming right now | 16:24 |
| Riddell | but yes it should be user feature orientated as much as possible | 16:25 |
| claydoh | maybe just list the improvements and additions, highlight what those features | 16:25 |
| claydoh | that have changed/improved/benn added | 16:25 |
| claydoh | I know I shoulda kept a jaunty somewhere for comparison :) | 16:26 |
| bbigras | Riddell: I didn't see anything in .xsession-erros when trying to restart X. The last thing I see in that file is kwin crashing | 16:59 |
| JontheEchidna | the kwin crash on logout is a known, separate issue that's been around since KDE 4.1 times | 17:01 |
| JontheEchidna | /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old may be of use | 17:01 |
| mgraesslin | kwin crash on logout? | 17:02 |
| mgraesslin | NVIDIA driver? | 17:02 |
| bbigras | yes nvidia | 17:02 |
| JontheEchidna | yeah, nvidia | 17:02 |
| bbigras | http://pastebin.ca/1645342 | 17:02 |
| bbigras | JontheEchidna: I'll check /var/log/Xorg.0 brb | 17:03 |
| JontheEchidna | anybody want to take care of bug 460984? | 17:08 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 460984 in language-pack-kde-nl "KMail Dutch: translator's e-mail in application" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/460984 | 17:08 |
| Sime | is there anything sinister lying in the 9.10 upgrade process that I need to be aware of before upgrading my machine here? | 17:26 |
| smarter | monsters | 17:26 |
| smarter | well, the boot system now relies completely on upstart scripts, it's supposed to work reliably but you never know what could happen :p | 17:27 |
| smarter | Grub --> Grub2 transition could also potientially causes problems | 17:28 |
| bbigras | JontheEchidna: I didn't see anything special in the log file except maybe "ddxSigGiveUp: Closing log" at the end | 17:28 |
| JontheEchidna | bbigras: yeah, X is crashing then | 17:29 |
| Sime | smarter: are the configs kind of the same? | 17:29 |
| smarter | Sime: for grub2? not at all | 17:29 |
| smarter | it's in /boot/grub/grub.cfg now, instead of menu.lst | 17:29 |
| Sime | ok, coz my grub config is pretty nutty | 17:29 |
| smarter | and it's automatically generated by scripts in /etc/grub.d | 17:30 |
| bbigras | JontheEchidna: btw I'm able to log back in. only restart X don't works. do you have ideas where else I could also look? | 17:31 |
| JontheEchidna | not really, sorry :( | 17:31 |
| bbigras | thanks anyways for the help. | 17:32 |
| Sime | ok, upgrade aborts if ubuntu-minimal is not installed... | 17:40 |
| bbigras | I reported the X restart issue with kdm, should I link the bug on the iso testing website even if I'm using the RC iso which I guess is not the latest one? | 17:44 |
| djsiegel | seele: hey | 17:51 |
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| Riddell | Sime: there is a potential issue with upgrade caused by pykde, but it's a packaging issue and should only affect people with conf files that get upgraded after pykde which won't be many, I'm fixing it now | 18:01 |
| Sime | Riddell: does that mean I will have a bad evening?? | 18:02 |
| Riddell | Sime: it's very unlikely | 18:03 |
| * Sime happily clicks on the next step of the upgrade process. | 18:03 | |
| === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk | ||
| Sime | "Error authenticating some packages"... mmm | 18:04 |
| Sime | expected? | 18:04 |
| Riddell | nope | 18:04 |
| Riddell | do you have something strange in your sources.list ? | 18:04 |
| Sime | it has listed a mega-ton of packages | 18:05 |
| Sime | all of them I think. | 18:05 |
| Riddell | Sime: is apt's gpg setup broken? what happened when you installed ubuntu-minimal? | 18:06 |
| Riddell | davmor2: can you say what you upgraded from when you report upgrade results in e.g. http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/result/3313/85 | 18:07 |
| davmor2 | jaunty | 18:07 |
| Sime | Riddell: nothing exciting happened. | 18:08 |
| Riddell | Sime: did it moan about being unable to authenticate? | 18:08 |
| Sime | Riddell: no, but I did have some network trouble with nl.archive.ubuntu.com. | 18:09 |
| Sime | Also, is it normal that the upgrader be so slow at d/l'ing files? | 18:09 |
| Riddell | that just depends on your mirror and internet connection | 18:10 |
| Sime | it is faster now (caching??) | 18:12 |
| Riddell | it's just an http connection, nothing unusual about it | 18:12 |
| Sime | it is now threaten to upgrade. ;-) There must have been a network "glitch". | 18:14 |
| Sime | it is now warming up my ADSL modem. :) | 18:16 |
| Riddell | if you have cats be careful, they'll go to sleep on it and it'll overheat | 18:17 |
| Riddell | davmor2: the test machine I have with windows xp on it has had windows xp destroying the grub setup after it boots, this doesn't happen with jaunty's grub, have you seen anything like that? | 18:20 |
| davmor2 | nope | 18:21 |
| davmor2 | Riddell: I'll have a look in a minute though | 18:23 |
| Riddell | davmor2: I suspect it'll be a feak issue with this windows xp install but would be a problem if it was a general issue | 18:25 |
| davmor2 | Riddell: I has a new compaq110 with xp preinstalled I'm about to test kne and unr so we'll soon know :) | 18:27 |
| jussi01 | Hrm, anyone got a simple way of discovering other linux machines on a home network? | 18:28 |
| davmor2 | jussi01: walk up to the box? | 18:29 |
| Riddell | jussi01: avahi-browse -a | 18:30 |
| Riddell | zeroconf:/ will show if anything is advertising http or ssh but most don't unfortunately | 18:31 |
| jussi01 | hrm. is there a way I can get it to advertise ssh? | 18:32 |
| Riddell | avahi-publish-service "crack me" _ssh._tcp 22 | 18:34 |
| jussi01 | hehe :) | 18:35 |
| jussi01 | 1 last quick question, behind a firewalled router, thatll only advertise on the local network? (its my media pc...) | 18:36 |
| Riddell | yes it's local network only | 18:37 |
| jussi01 | yay, thanks :) | 18:38 |
| Riddell | hi nookie^, how's that banner coming along? | 18:45 |
| nookie^ | hi Riddell! hehehe actually im just now looking how to create it =) | 18:48 |
| nookie^ | have been thinking now for an hour how i can create it =) | 18:48 |
| Mamarok | hm, I just had a look at the Software Center, so one can only select one single item, installs that and goes to the next? That takes ages | 19:46 |
| davmor2 | Mamarok: no you install one move back select the next etc | 19:49 |
| Sime | upgrade got 404 on a couple packages. I'm guessing a mirror sync issue. | 19:49 |
| Mamarok | davmor2: that is lame | 19:50 |
| Mamarok | no way to preselect and then isntall all in one go? | 19:50 |
| Mamarok | install* | 19:50 |
| skreech | Wait I should be using grub2? | 19:51 |
| skreech | I upgraded and I'm still on grub 1 | 19:51 |
| skreech | bbigras: hi | 19:51 |
| === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates | ||
| Sime | shit, kdesudo crashed. | 20:27 |
| Sime | how now brown cow?? | 20:29 |
| Sime | segfault | 20:29 |
| nookie^ | Riddell: so far like this: http://imagebin.ca/view/wwWopm2.html | 20:33 |
| skreech | Sime: sudo start it back? | 20:44 |
| Sime | skreech: I'm running dpkg configure manually | 20:45 |
| skreech | ok | 20:48 |
| maco | anyone having issues with power devil on karmic? its timing seems off. i have it set to display dim after 1 minute of idle, but instead it dims immediately (ie, not a full minute) | 21:03 |
| dtchen | reproducible with a fresh user account? | 21:03 |
| dtchen | I can't reproduce the symptom you describe in vbox with the 20091027 desktop image. | 21:04 |
| dtchen | granted, I don't know offhand if I need to run it on bare metal. | 21:04 |
| Sime | anyone know a simple way of updating grub and its config? | 21:06 |
| LaserJock | what are the menu steps to get to kpackagekit? | 21:06 |
| maco | dtchen: mm nope. now i wonder whats wrong with mine | 21:08 |
| maco | LaserJock: kickoff -> computer -> kpackagekit | 21:08 |
| LaserJock | maco: s/kickoff/K menu/ ? | 21:08 |
| LaserJock | maco: it's for documentation | 21:09 |
| dtchen | maco: looks like you have conffile cruft | 21:09 |
| maco | LaserJock: or kickoff -> applications -> system -> kpackagekit | 21:09 |
| maco | LaserJock: dunno what its called elsewhere in docs, but it doesnt act the same as the k menu did... | 21:09 |
| maco | i think its "application launcher" or something | 21:09 |
| LaserJock | maco: is it actually listed as "kpackagekit"? | 21:09 |
| maco | LaserJock: it says "KPackageKit" and then as a subtitle "Software Management" when you look in "Computer" | 21:10 |
| LaserJock | awesome, thanks | 21:10 |
| maco | which is the name and which is the subtitle are reversed in System | 21:10 |
| skreech | Others have the same issue with failsafe bombing. | 21:10 |
| maco | LaserJock: got that? | 21:11 |
| LaserJock | maco: yep | 21:11 |
| maco | ok | 21:11 |
| skreech | and not being able to get to TTYs as well | 21:17 |
| skreech | Konsole doesn't work for failsafe | 21:18 |
| skreech | well as x-terminal-emulator | 21:21 |
| === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk | ||
| Sime | wish me luck. [attempting reboot] | 21:25 |
| maco | dtchen: i lied | 21:29 |
| maco | apparently when i dont sleep one night, the effects last > 1 day, because i was reading the wrong line | 21:29 |
| davmor2 | Riddell: just to confirm that xp and grub work fine here | 21:29 |
| maco | though that was only 22 mississippis, not 50-70-ish whe the screen dimmed for the new user, so it was still odd | 21:29 |
| maco | well, my conffile doesnt look broken. and this started happening a few days ago without any changes to my configuration. so im confused | 21:31 |
| === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates | ||
| maco | *shrug* works if i change it to 2min instead of 1. whatver. | 21:36 |
| dtchen | what in the world does "i lied" refer to? | 21:36 |
| maco | dtchen: apparently that message didnt send | 21:36 |
| maco | oh well | 21:36 |
| maco | i said that the new user dint have that problem but that the conf file wasnt updating when i changed settings in power devil. then i realized i was reading the wrong line of the conf file | 21:37 |
| maco | so then i said "i lied" | 21:37 |
| dtchen | ok, that's only slightly less befuddling | 21:38 |
| dmatt | screech: your theory is not right, I could get to TTY before I attempted the failsafe login | 21:41 |
| skreech | dmatt: Then you couldn't afterwards? | 21:42 |
| dmatt | yes | 21:42 |
| maco | yikes | 21:43 |
| skreech | When you tried to switch to TTY you get a black screen? | 21:44 |
| dmatt | skreech: yes, without cursor | 21:44 |
| skreech | Did you try to get back to TTY7 ? | 21:45 |
| dmatt | screech: but session still existed, it promted me to close it when I went for restart | 21:45 |
| dmatt | skreech, yes, I chose to restart there | 21:46 |
| skreech | Yep me too | 21:46 |
| skreech | I did it again and got the same thing | 21:47 |
| skreech | I went through the motions of logging in then I touched a file in ~ and rebooted | 21:47 |
| skreech | When it came back up the file existed so I know that things are working but you just can't see anything | 21:47 |
| skreech | Logging in as failsafe throws a X driver error | 21:47 |
| skreech | well it does for me | 21:48 |
| skreech | But whatever Konsole is doing is messing with X pretty bad | 21:49 |
| dmatt | screech: you still can perfectly work and see everything, if you do not attempt any login and go straight to tty | 21:49 |
| skreech | dmatt: I know | 21:49 |
| skreech | and You can fix the failsafe pretty easy | 21:49 |
| skreech | well for me it's a fix | 21:49 |
| dmatt | skreech: (i finally got your nick right) | 21:49 |
| skreech | Workaround for others I suppose | 21:50 |
| skreech | Yay! :) | 21:50 |
| dmatt | skreech: why does it work on that old computer then, even after failsafe login? | 21:50 |
| dmatt | it has old ATI card with open driver | 21:51 |
| skreech | Probably it | 21:51 |
| skreech | 9600 ? | 21:51 |
| dmatt | IGP 350M | 21:52 |
| dmatt | skreech: IGP 340M, sorry | 21:52 |
| dmatt | it is notebook | 21:52 |
| skreech | Hmm ok | 21:53 |
| skreech | I'm using nvidia right now I've not had any issues with my older ATI and the open driver | 21:53 |
| skreech | what video card are you using on the newer one? | 21:54 |
| dmatt | ATI 3400 (it is notebook HP 6930p) | 21:54 |
| skreech | Which driver? | 21:54 |
| dmatt | open | 21:55 |
| skreech | Hmm that's not helpful then | 21:55 |
| skreech | Kernel difference ? | 21:55 |
| dmatt | both are on 31-14, but old one is x86 and new one is 64 | 21:57 |
| dmatt | skreech: that might be something... | 22:00 |
| skreech | Hmm ok | 22:05 |
| skreech | I'm x86 so maybe not | 22:05 |
| dmatt | skreech: old one was installed while connected to internet, new one entirely from cd an later upgraded | 22:16 |
| skreech | This is a straight upgrade from Jackalope | 22:17 |
| skreech | Kpackagekit has the most aggravating errors | 22:17 |
| skreech | There are broken dependecies on your system. Please use an advanced package manage e.g. Synaptic or aptitude to resolve this situation. | 22:17 |
| Riddell | nookie^: that seems good | 22:41 |
| === GREEK is now known as Guest11301 | ||
| Riddell | Sime: how was the upgrade? | 22:45 |
| === flacoste is now known as flacoste_afk | ||
| davmor2 | ScottK: I left you kne manual :) | 23:35 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: do I know Christopher Eberl ? | 23:55 |
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