Roeyokay, I put that statement in00:00
Roey(i.e. changed the /boot line in /etc/fstab)00:00
Roeyupgrade-from-grub-lgacy still fails, though00:00
kb9vqf_Roey: Sorry , at this point I'm out of ideas00:01
Roeyit's alright.00:01
RoeyGod hates me.00:01
Roeyno system upgrade ever works for me.00:01
Roeythanks so much though, kb00:01
FloodBotK1Roey: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.00:01
ncfi1013_i just installed the new version of firefox and i cant get any torrents to open in ktorrent when i click on a torrent link. ive already checked to see if it is already set up to do that and it is. is there something im missing? is the new firefox in its beta? got any tips, suggestions, pointers?00:01
kb9vqf_GRUB is an odd beast, GRUB with RAID triply so! :)00:02
Roeyoh man00:03
RoeyI'l try re-install grub?00:03
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Roeyroot@ubuntu:/# ls /dev/00:04
Roeywhat's with that, kb9vqf_?00:04
Roeythis coming from inside the chroot00:04
Roeykb9vqf_: I issued mount --bind /dev /tmp/dev, then going back into chroot and issuing /usr/sbin/upgrade-from-grub-legacy and it still fails00:08
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Roeyhey narke00:15
Roeyanyone here good with grub?00:15
Byron!grub | Roey00:23
ubottuRoey: GRUB is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto00:23
ncfi1013_i just installed the new version of firefox and i cant get any torrents to open in ktorrent when i click on a torrent link. ive already checked to see if it is already set up to do that and it is. is there something im missing? is the new firefox in its beta? got any tips, suggestions, pointers?00:27
rasstarhow can i get firefox on kubuntu? is it a simpel install?00:29
tweekhey does anyone know how to add aoss to the launcher link of teamspeak?00:30
tweekrasstar: in the cl type sudo apt-get install firefox00:30
rasstarit's not in the software center?00:31
tweekok type sudo apt-get update00:31
tweekthen try again :)00:31
rasstari was trying to install 9.10 released yesterday but keep getting an error00:32
rasstari think the kde desktop is so much better00:32
rasstarcompared to ubuntu00:32
CPrgmSwR2I am just surprised that gnome is still more popular00:33
rasstari was wondering the same thing00:33
CPrgmSwR2I am just pissed off my sound doesn't work in 9.10 :(00:33
rasstarwhen i installed ubuntu the first thing i thought is how can i get this thing to look better00:33
rasstarkubuntu looks fine to me00:34
Roeykubuntu has a way of reducing me to a groveling idiot when it comes to upgrading it.00:38
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tweekhey does anyone know how to add aoss to the launcher link of teamspeak?00:50
tweekhey does anyone know how to add aoss to the launcher link of teamspeak?00:54
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tweekhey does anyone know how to add aoss to the launcher link of teamspeak?01:05
Roeyjust type aoss followed by th ecommand01:05
tweekwhat command?01:05
tweeklike i cant get sound to work in teamspeak and i read that it needs to be ran as aoss01:06
Roeyaoss launcher01:06
Roeywher 'launcher' your lteamspeak launch command01:06
tweekERROR: ld.so: object '/usr/$LIB/libaoss.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.01:06
tweek/usr/lib/teamspeak-client/teamspeak.real: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/teamspeak-client/teamspeak.real: undefined symbol: initPAnsiStrings01:06
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RoeyKB1JWQ: hi01:10
Roeyer, you're not th same kb as before...01:10
tweekRoey: ^^?01:10
tweekhey does anyone know how to add aoss to the launcher link of teamspeak?01:20
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* nameiner is away: Gone away for now01:31
tweekwhat day?01:38
ubottuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »01:38
tweekEv0luti0n_: what day?01:38
tweekhey does anyone know how to add aoss to the launcher link of teamspeak?01:44
Deihmoshow can i get firefox on kubuntu01:45
DragnslcrDeihmos- you can install it the same way as any other software01:47
Deihmosgo to firefox website and download?"01:48
tweekhey does anyone know how to add aoss to the launcher link of teamspeak?01:48
tweeksudo apt-get install firefox01:48
DragnslcrDeihmos- no, through the package manager01:48
DragnslcrDeihmos- open up KPackageKit and search for firefox01:48
tweekor just type what i said in the cl01:48
DragnslcrIf you want 3.0, the package name is firefox, and if you want 3.5, the package name is firefox-3.501:49
Deihmosgot it01:49
Deihmossome of these thing say gnome. does it matter?01:49
tweekyou want kde01:49
DragnslcrNope. Firefox uses a lot of GTK libraries01:49
tweekgnome is ubuntu kde is kubuntu01:49
tweekrly? =\01:50
kubuntusertweek: yep01:50
tweekalright lol01:50
tweekwell can anyone help me with teamspeak? lol01:50
kubuntuserDeihmos: it is suggested that you use kde software. However, gnome software will work fine.01:50
DragnslcrThere's been some work done on a Qt version of Firefox, but I don't think it's really usable01:50
kubuntusertweek: I installed teamspeak a while ago01:50
kubuntusertweek: I may be able to help, what is the problem?01:51
tweekdo you know how to add aoss to the launcher link of teamspeak?01:51
tweeki cant get sound to work... lol01:51
Deihmoshow do you uninstall stuff01:51
kubuntuserno idea. It just worked for me01:51
kubuntuserDeihmos: kpackagekit01:51
kubuntuserDeihmos: K Menu -> applications -> system -> software management01:52
Deihmosi see that but don't see a list of installed stuff01:53
Deihmosi like the search feature in this. didn't see that in ubuntu01:53
kubuntuserDeihmos: installed packages is probably a filter01:53
Deihmosno filters are on01:54
kubuntuserDeihmos: Do you see the Filters button on the same line as the search?01:54
kubuntuserwait... I may be using a newer version.01:54
Ev0luti0n_[01:38] <tweek> what day?01:55
Ev0luti0n_the day of the final version01:55
Ev0luti0n_the 9.1001:55
FloodBotK1Ev0luti0n_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.01:55
Deihmosnothign shows up no matter what01:55
kubuntuserDeihmos: did you try a search with the filter?01:57
Deihmosi have to search for install programs?01:58
kubuntuserDeihmos: I do not know how to do it any other way in the gui. I tend to shy away from most of these programs.01:59
Deihmosok i have to search for install programs. a bit strange01:59
Deihmoskubuntu has a bad software center compared to ubuntu02:05
Deihmosexpected them to be the same02:05
kubuntuserDeihmos: they used to be about the same.,,02:07
kubuntuserthen we got a new program :-\02:07
Deihmoswhat happened02:07
Deihmosthe software manager is really bad02:07
kubuntuserDeihmos: they apparently thought this was better...02:07
kubuntuserDeihmos: I think the old one is still available02:08
kubuntuserinstall "adept"02:08
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EDinNYPrint Problem -- Odd.  My printer cable was unplugged, so nothing I printed actually got printed.  Now the printer is back online, but the "enable" box in the printer configuration tool on that printer's page is still grayed out.  I tried sudo /etc/init.d/cups restart, but that did not seem to affect it.  Any ideas?02:19
EDinNYIf I search for network printers it DOES find the Lexmark network printer at the correct IP address, and it still prints from my XP machine.02:21
EDinNYTrying not to have to delete the printer and re-create it, but I guess that is the next step.  Good thing this has gotten easier over the last decade!02:22
krkellycan anyone help me remote into my buddy's desktop?02:26
krkellycan anyone help me remote into my buddy's desktop?02:29
Deihmosi am unable to enable the nvidia drivers in kubuntu02:33
Deihmosclick enabled and nothing happens02:33
ByronHow do I restore my video?02:37
gorgonzolai was wodering, when can we expect the network manager plasma widget to be reinstated?03:05
gorgonzolaie, what has to happen to see it back, is it a kubuntu thing, or upstream?03:06
wtanyone know why my update notifications are gone since upgrading to karmic?03:13
wtI'm just wondering if it's a known issue or a common problem.03:13
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit03:16
wtawesome! ;)03:16
wtanyone know why my update notifications are gone since upgrading to karmic?03:19
wtI'm just wondering if it's a known issue or a common problem.03:19
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tjeI'm trying to install KAudioCreator, but apt-cache doesn't seem to have it.   I've got universe and multiverse repos in my sources.list.  Can anyone tell me what I'm missing?04:51
tjei.e., what the package name is for KAudioCreator04:51
morecrownot sold on Quassel, its not very (or not very obviously) configurable04:51
tjeFrom what I've been able to find on Google, it seems to be replaced by something called Audex.  Can someone confirm this?04:56
wiredmindhave a question about Gwenview05:00
wiredmindit states that Browsing by tag is not available05:00
wiredmindasking to check if Nepomuk is properly installed05:01
wiredmindI've installed libnepomuk and dependencies but still not browsing by tag05:01
wiredmindanyone have any idea how to bite this one?05:01
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rafaelola mi fetos05:13
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kb9vqfWho is handling the release announcement this time around?06:33
kb9vqfDoes anyone know who is handling the release announcement this time around?06:37
* kb9vqf would like the KDE3 release mentioned as well ;)06:37
firgoany body home06:41
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sunil_i have problem with my sound recording07:02
sunil_any one there07:02
sunil_who is there07:02
sunil_flood bot07:03
sunil_is there some one07:03
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naught101sunil_: read the topic, then ask your question. If you PM people without permission you're likely to get kciked.07:21
ayramsomeone have a Ubuntu's channel???07:21
ayramtank you07:22
TheKrohow do I find out what the proxy settings are for an application I launch from the menu (adobe air claims it uses the "current desktop environment's proxy settings"...)07:26
TheKroKDE 4.2.407:27
sunil_go to tools07:27
MamarokTheKro: well, check the systemsettings, but since you use external software07:27
sunil_open firefox07:28
sunil_edit -> preference07:28
TheKroMamarok: in system settings, I have "connect to internet directly". am sitting on adsl.  in firefox "no proxy"07:29
sunil_inside that go to advance07:29
sunil_in tht netword07:29
Mamarokwell, as I said, you use external proprietary software, I really don't know, might be a problem with that07:29
Mamaroksunil_: could you make tis on one line, please?07:30
TheKrobut http_proxy is set in .bashrc07:30
TheKroare apps from the menu executed from bash?07:30
sunil_edit->preference inside that ->advance network tab07:30
TheKroMamarok: it works fine from behind the proxy at work.07:30
Mamarokthat is very strange, the proxy settings are in the systemsettings -> Network, not in .bashrc07:31
sunil_then go to setting07:31
sunil_and check the proxy07:31
MamarokTheKro: and at work you use Kubuntu?07:31
TheKroMamarok: at work i use the same machine, also kubuntu07:31
Mamaroksunil_: please, read what I just told you07:31
TheKroi'm trying to find out what the "environment settings" are adobe air is receiving, so i can determine if the error is in adobe air, or my proxy config07:32
sunil_even i am using kubuntu07:32
MamarokTheKro: well, the proxy is a network setting, so you will need to check that07:33
TheKroalternatively - is there a way to find out what command is run when one clicks on an icon in the menu07:33
MamarokTheKro: yes, if you start the application from a konsole in debug mode, it will have a konsole output07:34
TheKroMamarok: the app works fine if I run it from konsole after running "http_proxy="07:35
TheKrobut i'm trying to find out how launching works _from the menu_07:35
dustinanyone else have amarok sound issues>07:36
MamarokTheKro: well, again, Adobe Air is a) external and not from our repositories and b) proprietary. Are you sure you really need that? I thi nk there are enough free alternatives for Ajax around07:36
Mamarokdustin: please be more specific, which KDE version, Amarok version, Phonon settings07:37
TheKroMamarok: I'm looking for a twitter client that supports (a) multiple accounts; and (b) facebook integration.  suggestions?07:38
dustinkubuntu 9.04..so kde 4.2.2 amarok 4.2.207:38
MamarokTheKro: Choqok07:38
Mamarokno, Amarok has certainyl not that version, please check in the Amarok help section07:38
Mamarokdustin: I bet you have Amarok 2.0.2, you should activate the jaunty-backports repository and get Amarok 2.1.107:39
dustinI have 4.2.207:39
Mamarokdustin: also, in the system settings -> Multimedia, you should have the phonon backend xine enabled and you need the libxine1-ffmpeg package for mp3 support07:40
Mamarokdustin: that is the KDE version, the Amarok version is 2.0.2 in Jaunty by default07:40
TheKroMamarok: will check it out07:41
dustinTHanks Mamarok07:41
Mamarokdustin: you are welcome :)07:42
TheKroMamarok: doesn't seem to support facebook07:43
TheKro(and still in alpha)07:43
MamarokTheKro: which KDE version do you have?07:43
MamarokChoqok is not alpha anymoe since quite some time :)07:44
TheKroah, i presume it won't be installing the latest version by default07:44
MamarokTheKro: you might consider an upgrade to KDE 4.3.2 (see /topic), or to Karmic that will be out at the end of the week :)07:45
TheKroyes - i will be upgrading soon07:45
TheKrobut I upgrade as the updates come through07:45
Mamarokcurrent KDE is 4.3.2, and Choqok is 0.6.6 currently07:45
TheKrosince this is my work computer, i don't install versions beyond the recommended ones07:46
MamarokTheKro: don't worry, you will have Karmic available from Thursday on :)07:46
TheKroMamarok: but is there not an easy way to see the command associated with a menu item?07:47
MamarokTheKro: "recommended" is not necessarily the default one, Jaunty is already 6 months old, and KDE 4.2.2 is outdated07:47
TheKrook, i stick with the defaults, then07:47
MamarokTheKro: oh, a menu item in KDE you mean? Of course there is, right click on the menu button, edit menu07:47
TheKrothat's what i was trying to find07:48
Mamarokyou are welcome :)07:48
TheKrothanks - the followup question is what environment variables are set before the command is executed07:49
TheKrofor example, if I write an app that would get launched from the menu, could I reasonably assume $USER was populated?07:53
MamarokTheKro: sorry, I don't get that, populated?07:54
Mamarokdoesn't make much sense to me07:55
TheKroMamarok: e.g. if my application be able to use the $USER environment variable, would it be an empty string, or the user's name07:56
TheKros/be able/were07:56
MamarokTheKro: that's not a question I can answer, you might want to check that with a developer. It's up to you to decide which variables your application will use normaly, so I guess it depends on what you write in your code07:58
martinjh99How do I mount a Samba share?07:58
jussi01TheKro: if an app is launched from the kmenu, my understanding is that it is launched by the user, therefore in normal user environment.07:59
Mamarokof course07:59
martinjh99mount -t cifs // tmp/ is giving me an error -22 in the logs07:59
martinjh99running Kubuntu 9.10RC07:59
Mamarokmartinjh99: please ask in #ubuntu+1, see the topic08:00
martinjh99Sorry! :)08:00
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TheKrojussi01: but what is "normal" - i can have environment variables set differently in different terminals of Konsole.  so what is the "default".08:02
MamarokTheKro: well, then you launch it from that terminal to have that particular env variables08:02
Mamarokdefault is .bashrc08:03
MamarokTheKro: for GUI apps you usally set the variables in ~/.kde/env/myenv.sh08:05
TheKroMamarok: that's the default for a terminal in Konsole (since Konsole runs a bash shell), but is it the default for menu items08:06
MamarokTheKro: read what I just wrote :)08:06
TheKroMamarok: thanks - looks promising - will check it out08:06
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TheKroMamarok: thanks - it seems all the menu items have the same environment as KDE itself - so I need to restart KDE after editing my config files to see if changes work.  Hopefully that will resolve the issue.08:18
MamarokTheKro: you are welcome :)08:18
vivainio_is there a faq for "sound doesn't work in kubuntu karmic"?08:21
vivainio_or Kubuntu Karmic Koala, as it's affectionately called08:21
Mamarokvivainio_: for Karmic please ask in #ubuntu+1, see the topic08:22
vivainio_hm. I thought everyone was on karmic already ;-)08:22
vivainio_will do08:22
Mamarokunlikely, since it is not released yet08:22
TheKroMamarok: problem solved :)08:24
MamarokTheKro: nice :)08:24
varanusafter some last updates, plasma doesn't save the last configuration of widget position ecc, and even now and then adds random activities by changing then the current ones. any1 know y? i have karmic with kde4.3.208:34
Mamarokvaranus: no, not really, I have KDE 4.3.2 too, and don't have that problem08:37
varanusMamarok: so it could be something regarding my personal configuration08:37
Mamarokvaranus: you are welcome :)08:37
vtec_hello how do i uninstall kde completely from my computer? I've gone to synaptic and marked for complete removal but I still have all of the K apps and I don't want them anymore08:48
Mamarok!puregnome | vtec_08:59
ubottuvtec_: If you want to remove all !KDE packages, type « sudo apt-get remove kdelibs4c2 kdelibs5-data && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop » into a !terminal08:59
vtec_The command worked great and removed everything, nothing changed in my Ubuntu Desktop, all went well.09:00
vtec_Thanks alot Mamarok09:00
Mamarokvtec_: you are welcome :)09:00
vtec_Quick question, what is the difference bewteen Add/Remove and Synaptic?09:01
Mamarokit's not the same application, synaptic is a GTK app from Gnome, Add/Remove aka KPackageKit is a Qt application for KDE09:04
Mamarokboth use apt-get but provide a GUI09:04
vtec_Ahh I understand09:04
vtec_Thanks again Mamarok09:04
Mamarokvtec_: you are welcome :)09:04
ApplerHey all09:09
TheKrohi appler09:11
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seraphimhey... why is kubuntu so much slower with the userinterface then ubuntu is10:41
seraphimits painfull , so slow is kubuntu compared to ubuntu10:42
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solar_i am trying to install ubuntu 9.04 in a 64bit system with 3 hard drives one ide and two satas can you help me?11:32
kubuntusersolar_: it is extremely difficult to help you over the internet11:38
kubuntusersolar_: I suggest you try to do a simple install on an old computer or something your first time. If you have only a few questions there are many people here who would be willing to help you11:40
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solar_the biggest hard drive it is 500 gb and says 500107mb free space it is impossible to change to ext3 ,ext2, fat32. what can i do with it?11:48
kubuntusersolar_: why is it impossible to change?11:50
solar_i have problems aswell with an ati graphic card already installed11:50
kubuntusersolar_: I can not help you now because I have school soon.11:52
solar_i want that 500sata to be part of the system. when i am in preparar particiones... does not let me do it11:53
diconico07solar_: you need to creatte partitions on your differents hard drive11:54
diconico07and set them in ext3 or ext411:54
solar_what about puntos de montaje12:01
acemowhen trying to start eric, im getting the following error message: ImportError: cannot import name Qsci what can i do to fix this?12:03
solar_error input output duringread on /dev/sda12:06
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bucketheadHi guys.. How do I add additional activities in plasma-netbook? I'd like to add a lancelot and a folderview..12:33
Shockrates_i hear no sound from my laptop subwoofer12:47
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lovrei have notices that in kubuntu (or maybe linux in general) you cant play two audio files at the same time. For example run Audacious and Amarok, and make them both play, just the first one started plays, the other one is silent. Same thing with microphone, i cant use it to talk on skype and teamspeak at the same time. I would think capturing would be independent and then signal would be available for any application. I dont know why theese problems12:57
lovreexist, but its annoying. I know stupid windows can do this, why linux cant? Or maybe i am missing something here?12:57
sveinunglovre: if yor programs use a sound server (like PulseAudio) you can12:59
BluesKajhiyas all13:00
lovresveinung: i dont know what they use, i never configured amarok, audacious, or teamspeak. Skype is set to ALSA. Not sure if Alsa is the same type of service as PulseAudio....?13:03
BluesKajpulse audio is like amiddleman soundserver that runs on top of alsa, skype is known not to have audio without PA13:05
lovreBluesKaj: hmm, i not sure why then i cant capture or play from/to more sources...13:06
shaynahi everyone.  I have a question13:06
* Elchomat too13:06
EagleScreenI have installed mplayerthumbs 1.2-kde4.3.2-0ubuntu1, what more must I do to have thumbnails preview for video files?13:06
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shaynaI just installed Kubuntu 9.04 and now my wireless doesn't work, how do I fix this.  It shows my wireless network but I can't connect and I have the wireless drivers installed13:07
BluesKajlovre, more info at #pulseaudio13:07
shaynaany ideas?13:08
EagleScreenshayna: do not forget to update to Kubuntu 9.10 in two days or so, it is recommended, what protocol use your network, WEP or WPA?13:08
BluesKajshayna, which wifi card?13:09
lovreBluesKaj: ok, ty13:09
Elchomatshayna:  No bing.ut here my wlan doesnt do anyth13:09
shaynaI have an airport card built into my mac13:09
* Elchomat switches back to Windows where wlan, bt and so on works13:10
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shaynaI also have the broadcom sta wireless driver installed13:10
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EagleScreenshayna: the kde4 plasmoid for networkmanager in jaunty is buggy as hell13:11
shaynaI see13:11
EagleScreenit is "normally" that it to cannot connect to a wpa13:11
shaynaBecause it worked great in 8.113:11
EagleScreenbecause 8.10 used KDE3 version i think13:11
shaynaI updated that to the kde 413:12
shaynamy boyfriend is at work and I don't want to have to call him13:12
EagleScreen8.10 used KDE4 Desktop, but kde3 applet for networkmanager13:12
shaynais that supposed to be resolved in 9.1?13:13
BluesKaj!info wicd | shayna13:13
ubottushayna: wicd (source: wicd): wired and wireless network manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.5.9-2 (jaunty), package size 247 kB, installed size 1860 kB13:13
EagleScreenshayna: 9.10 has a completly rewritten kde4 applet for networkmanager, it is expected to work well13:13
EagleScreenbad time to update to jaunty when karmic will be released in two days13:14
shaynaI'm looking for the package you said ubottu, but it's not pulling up anything in adept13:14
EagleScreenshayna: i recommend you to use kde3 applet13:15
shaynaI'm thinking so, but I installed the 8.10 disk13:15
shaynahow do I do that Eagle?13:15
EagleScreenlet me see..13:15
BluesKajshayna, add this to your sources.list then do an update in the konsole: deb http://apt.wicd.net jaunty extras13:15
BluesKajincluding the deb13:15
EagleScreenI think kde3 applet is netter than wicd13:16
BluesKajEagleScreen, have you tried wicd?13:16
EagleScreennever but it install gnome dependencies13:17
BluesKajI use it wirh wpa2 encryption13:17
EagleScreenand i have tested kde3 applet in jaunty for wpa sucessfull13:17
EagleScreenshayna: usen what you want, choose one to test first13:17
BluesKajwhat's a few gnome depenendies , it's all ubuntu13:18
shaynai'm trying to figure out how to get the KDE 313:18
EagleScreenfor kde3 applet, install knetworkmanager package (it may be already installed by default)13:18
shaynabecause it's not letting me add the wicd13:18
EagleScreenchen in your Menu -> Applicarions -> Internet13:19
BluesKajwicd works with kde3 ..it's been around since 8.0413:19
shaynaI'll need to install that13:19
EagleScreenshayna: look for knetworkmanager package in adept and install it13:20
EagleScreenthen close the kde4 plasmoid for networkmanager13:20
EagleScreenrun knetworkmanager and kde3 applet should appears13:20
shaynaalright, give me a moment to get that13:21
shaynamy adept isn't wanting to open right now13:22
shaynaI may need to restart the computer13:22
EagleScreennormally, Adept is crappy13:22
shaynaI have synaptic13:22
EagleScreenuse always synaptic, it is muchy better13:23
BluesKajshayna, is this what you want ?  http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-jaunty-kde3-remix-beta13:23
shaynaI got this error13:23
shaynaE: Type 'http://apt.wicd.net' is not known on line 54 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list13:23
shaynaE: The list of sources could not be read.13:23
shaynaGo to the repository dialog to correct the problem.13:23
shaynaE: _cache->open() failed, please report.13:23
FloodBotK2shayna: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.13:23
EagleScreencorrupted sources.list13:24
EagleScreenopen a terminal13:24
EagleScreenrun: $ kdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list13:24
EagleScreenpress F11 to see line numbers13:25
EagleScreenfix line 5413:25
EagleScreenremove it, type it propertly, or comment it13:25
EagleScreensave and close editor13:25
BluesKajshayna, copy and paste this whole line , not just the underlined and highlighted part , everything except the quotes "deb http://apt.wicd.net jaunty extras"13:26
shaynait's saying command not found13:26
EagleScreencommand not found to wht command?13:27
shaynathe one you told me to run13:28
shayna$ kdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list13:28
EagleScreendo not type the $13:28
EagleScreenwithout dolar symbol13:28
EagleScreena dolar symbol usually means the the following is a command for shell, but it musnt be typed in the shell13:29
shaynai just tried that13:29
shaynai feel stupid13:29
EagleScreenall we are stupid when we are learning13:30
shaynanow it's giving me another error13:30
shaynafixed it!!!!13:32
shaynaI'm not seeing the network manager that you told me to look for EagleScreen13:35
shaynaI've got kdenetwork installed though13:35
EagleScreenor networkmanager-kde13:35
shaynaI have network-manager-kde installed13:36
EagleScreenas I suposed13:36
EagleScreenclose kde4 network plasmoid13:36
EagleScreenand try to run knetworkmanager command13:36
shaynawhere do I do that?  and i'm sorry if i'm sounding retarded, i've been using Mac OS X13:37
EagleScreendo you ahve the Desktop widgets locked?13:37
EagleScreenunlock them13:37
shaynano they're not locked13:37
EagleScreenthen use the special button on the right in the panel13:38
EagleScreenjust right click on the kde4 widget for network13:38
EagleScreenand choose remove widget13:38
shaynathere isn't one there13:39
EagleScreenon Desktop?13:39
shaynai closed out the plasmoid window earlier13:39
EagleScreenthen just run knetworkmanager13:40
shaynait gave me some weird stuff13:41
shaynaDCOPClient::attachInternal. Attach failed Could not open network socket13:42
shaynaIt said that a few times13:42
EagleScreenbut is applet opened?13:42
EagleScreenor not?13:42
shaynano, it doesn't look like it EagleScreen13:43
shaynaI wanna copy and paste but i don't want to flood13:43
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com (or !pastebinit for CLI) | For pasting !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin Please give us the URLs for your posts!13:43
EagleScreenit is strange13:43
roKBkya bhai logon, sab rapchik ?13:44
sveinungdoes anyone know where I could ask for help about a KMS-problem (huge fonts) I got after i upgraded to Karmic?13:44
kaddi__karmic support is available in #ubuntu+113:44
roKBwhat's KMS ?13:45
shaynais there any way to do screen sharing eagle?13:46
shaynaI keep getting this X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 313:46
lovrecan someone talk to me on skype, i need  to check capture with PA, if it can pass the captured to more than one application?13:46
EagleScreenshayna: you can paste text in http://paste.ubuntu.com13:47
shaynai did that , but it won't go int the screen13:47
EagleScreenshayna: if you did it, share the url to the pasted text13:48
EagleScreenshayna: copy always the command you were running too13:49
shaynaI just tried something13:49
EagleScreenshayna: has the computer where you have the problem internet connection right now?13:50
shaynaI tried to run the command as kdesudo knetworkmanager13:50
shaynayes, i've moved my wireless router closer and connected an ethernet cable to it13:50
EagleScreennever run knetworkmanager with kdesudo13:50
shaynadid i just break something?13:51
EagleScreenhave you tried to run it as normal?13:51
nortengI need the help of VCS have a shared network printer in samba has two trays, one sheet is A4 and A3 is another I can not send to tray will only A3 to A4 user CUPS 1.3.9 can someone help me?13:51
shaynayes i did before, and i closed the window accidently and then when i tried again it wouldn't come back up with all the errors13:51
shaynait just goes back to shayna@shayna-desktop:~$13:51
PAgorehi all :)13:52
shaynahi Pagore13:52
EagleScreennot running now but it did before, shayna?13:52
PAgorecould someone tell me please, how i can create thumbnails in kubuntu :D13:52
PAgoreim pretty new in kubuntu :)13:52
EagleScreenif you cannot run it agai, try rebooting if you can13:52
shaynayou and me both PA13:52
shaynaokay, I'll come back to this chat room after I reboot13:53
PAgorei found out that i can watch thumbs with mplayerthumbs13:53
EagleScreenhi PAgore13:53
shaynawait, I have two network orb thingys13:53
EagleScreenyes, you can13:53
PAgorebut how to create xD13:53
EagleScreenPAgore: what KDE version are you using?13:54
shaynaEagle, I have the knetworkmanager up13:55
PAgorethe newest13:55
EagleScreenshayna: try to connect13:55
PAgorei just downloaded it today :)13:55
shaynai'm a goob and didn't see it in the bar at the bottom13:55
EagleScreenPAgore: what Kubuntu vfersion?13:55
EagleScreenbad time to install 9.0413:56
PAgorehmm :)13:56
EagleScreen9.10 will be released in two days13:56
PAgorei know in 2 days ill download 9.1013:56
EagleScreenyou need KDE version of 9.10 to can use thumbnails13:56
PAgoreokty for info, ill google for KDE now :)13:57
EagleScreenat least you need 4.3 I think13:57
PAgorehm, i duno what version i have atm :)13:58
EagleScreenand package mplayerthimbs 1.2-kde4.3.2-0ubuntu113:58
EagleScreenjaunty has 4.2.2 i think13:58
EagleScreenthere are special repos to update to 4.3 in jaunty13:58
PAgorehmm, ok, i think i have to found out how to do that :X13:59
PAgorein packagekit?13:59
EagleScreeni can tell you13:59
ubottuThe Neon Project provides daily Amarok and KDE 4 trunk builds as packages for Kubuntu | See http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/User:Apachelogger/Project_Neon and http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/User:Apachelogger/Project_Neon/KDE/Info for more | Support in #amarok.neon13:59
EagleScreenKDE 4 trunk is unstable13:59
ubottuWith Launchpad's Personal Package Archives (PPA), you can build and publish binary Ubuntu packages for multiple architectures simply by uploading an Ubuntu source package to Launchpad. See https://help.launchpad.net/PPAQuickStart.14:00
EagleScreendo not use it14:00
EagleScreenPAgore: open kpackagekit14:00
PAgoreok i opened :)14:00
EagleScreengo to configuration14:00
EagleScreenand click on Edit Software sources14:00
PAgoreok i made and i tipped in my p :)14:01
EagleScreengo to Third part software tab14:01
EagleScreenclock on add new14:01
EagleScreenand paste this line: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu jaunty main14:01
EagleScreenall from deb to main14:02
EagleScreenthen clokc ok, reload and you will can update to 4.3.214:02
PAgorehm i made14:03
PAgorethen i checked for updates14:03
PAgoreThe package list needs to be rebuilt.14:03
PAgoreThis should have been done by the backend automatically.14:04
PAgorethis error appears14:04
geniisudo apt-get update     usually will update the list14:05
PAgorevery interesting :)14:11
PAgorethis i can read14:11
PAgoreE: Type 'http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu' is not known on line 54 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list14:11
PiciPAgore: You're probably missing 'deb ' on the beginning of that line14:12
sobczykwhat is the ide of choice for mono on kubuntu?14:13
PAgoreno i copied and pasted more then once , im sure i didnt forgot :)14:13
PAgorehm i have 1 try to delete this line now14:14
PAgorewith the application kate, and i need root rights to do that14:14
PAgorei write in terminal "sudo dolphin"14:15
PAgoreafter my PW i cant see anything in dolphin14:15
PAgoreno files or folders14:15
PAgorehi ravla14:15
ravlasabeis como meterle todo el java y to el royo a firefox?14:16
PAgorehi EagleScreen :P14:17
EagleScreenhello again14:17
EagleScreenupgrading to 4.3.2, PAgore?14:18
PAgoreno new failures apperead xD14:18
EagleScreenpastebin them14:19
PAgorefirst i refreshed the upgrade list but this appeared14:20
PAgoreA problem that we were not expecting has occurred.14:20
PAgorethen i wrote in terminal sudo apt-get upgrade14:20
PAgorebut then this E appeared14:20
PAgoreE: Type 'http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu' is not known on line 54 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list14:20
PAgorenow i can use dolphin with root14:21
PiciPAgore: Did you look at the file? I can assure you that you're missing 'deb' or 'deb-src' before the url on that line.14:21
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EagleScreenyou had to paste "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu jaunty main"14:22
EagleScreendid u copy the deb?14:22
PAgoreyes i made 100%14:22
PAgorei tried to copy and paste it more then once14:23
PiciPAgore: Can you please pastebin the contents of  that file then?14:23
ubottupastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. Ubuntu pastebin is at  http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from  command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic14:23
EagleScreenthen run: kdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list14:23
PAgorei search where i can find it :)14:23
EagleScreenand fix line 5414:23
geniiThe error idicates you did not put "deb" in front of the url14:23
PAgore# deb cdrom:[Kubuntu 9.04 _Jaunty Jackalope_ - Release amd64 (20090420.1)]/ jaunty main restricted14:23
PAgore# See http://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for how to upgrade to14:23
PAgore# newer versions of the distribution.14:23
PAgoredeb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ jaunty main restricted14:23
PAgoredeb-src http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ jaunty main restricted14:23
FloodBotK2PAgore: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.14:23
PAgore## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the14:23
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EagleScreenPAgore: dont flood14:25
EagleScreenuse pastebin and paste the content of the file14:25
EagleScreenit is also beter, cleaner14:25
PAgoreok i deleted line 4514:26
PAgorenow sudo apt-get update work :D14:26
EagleScreenadd deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu jaunty main14:27
EagleScreenfrom deb to main14:27
EagleScreenincluding both14:27
PAgoreyes a lot of new updates appear :D14:30
PAgore44 Updates14:30
PAgore62 blocked updates14:30
PAgoreCannot get the exclusive lock on the packaging backend.14:31
EagleScreenby a bug kpkgkit cannot install all updates14:33
EagleScreenuse sudo aptitude full-upgrade14:34
PAgoreyes :)14:34
PAgoreok ty, let me just update the 44 Updates i can then  i upgrade the rest :D14:34
PAgoreit teems that it is a lot because14:34
PAgorei update since 1 min and its still 10% :D14:34
PAgore16% now :P14:38
PAgore32%.    ...    i think in  5min    its finished :D14:45
UrwaldclonkWhat does it mean if I have restricted updates?14:48
* nameiner is away: Gone away for now14:51
PAgorehmm, Urwaldclonk  your question is hard to answer :)14:51
Urwaldclonk^^ should I post which one?14:52
PAgoreyes do, maybe other ppl. here can help you :P14:52
UrwaldclonkThese are the kernel updates to .1514:53
PAgorehmm, eagle screen, when i paste "sudo aptitude full-upgrade" in konsole14:56
PAgore1 error appears14:56
PAgoreE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)14:56
PAgoreE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?14:56
PAgoreE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)14:56
PAgoreE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?14:56
FloodBotK2PAgore: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.14:56
PAgorei closed all application but irc14:57
BluesKajPAgore, run in the konsole: sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock14:57
BluesKajand make sure package mangers are closed14:57
BluesKajPAgore, then run : sudo dpkg --configure -a14:58
PAgoreok i made :)14:58
BluesKajPAgore, now do : sudo aptitude update14:59
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PAgorei made this :)14:59
PAgorethen this appear14:59
PAgore62 packages upgraded, 32 newly installed, 3 to remove and 0 not upgraded.14:59
PAgoreNeed to get 188MB of archives. After unpacking 145MB will be used.14:59
FloodBotK2PAgore: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.14:59
PAgorewhen i write y15:00
PAgorehere is the error :)15:01
BluesKajPAgore,  do: sudo aptitude safe-upgrade15:01
PAgorehmm, similar error, with smaler text15:02
PAgoreDo you want to ignore this warning and proceed anyway?15:02
PAgoreTo continue, enter "Yes"; to abort, enter "No":15:02
PAgorei write "Y"15:02
PAgorebut nothing happened :D15:02
BluesKajthat is a warning , not an error15:02
PAgoreah lol ok15:03
PAgorei have to write "Yes"15:03
BluesKajtype the word Yes15:03
PAgorewow it is much15:03
PAgore38min left :),15:06
PAgoreill go study while this download :)15:06
EagleScreenthe warnings are probably by untrusted PPA15:07
EagleScreenadd the gpg-key of Kubuntu PPA's to apt keyring and those warnings will disappear15:07
Urwaldclonkcan I upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10?15:08
EagleScreenyes Urwaldclonk, you can15:11
Urwaldclonkthanks, is 9.10 avaliabe?15:12
EagleScreenyes it is, but it is not final release yet15:13
Urwaldclonkk, then I wait if its final :D15:14
EagleScreenbut only two days remaining, it is almost final, and very few changes are expected15:14
amikhya, can anyone confirm/deny that Kate 3.3.2 (using KDE 4.3.2) has copy/paste issues when trying to paste to an external app (thunderbird, vi, etc.)?15:29
EagleScreenwhat issues?15:33
amikit doesn't paste...15:34
EagleScreentrying paste after kate closed?15:34
amikI can copy/paste within kate, copy from outside and paste to kate, but can't copy from kate and paste outside of it15:34
amikno, everything still open. and just tried with kwrite - same thing.15:35
EagleScreenlet me see15:35
EagleScreenI can paste here15:35
* ponting hi allllllllllllll15:36
PAgorehi pnting :P15:36
EagleScreeni can paste everywhere15:36
amikhere being?15:36
* roKB says hi to ponting15:36
amikany idea what might be going wrong?15:36
BluesKajamik, yes sometimes one has to leave the page open that you copy from in order to paste in another file15:36
pontingarey rock u also here ...15:36
roKBEagleScreen: so do i15:37
roKBponting: are u still there ananya ?15:37
EagleScreenhave you touched klipper configuration?15:37
EagleScreenis klipper running for you?15:37
roKBponting: yup15:37
amikBluesKaj: everything is open - thunderbird, vi (konsole) and kate. it just doesn't work... very strange. haven't had this before, and I just upgraded to 4.3.2 a couple days ago15:37
amikno, klipper not running15:37
pontingroKB yaa15:38
amiktrying to paste into firefox bar - not working either15:39
Arinmalhey everyone15:39
PAgorehi :P15:39
amikwhen I copy from FF/TB, I can paste everywhere else15:40
Arinmalfirst time using kubuntu15:40
amikbut not the other way around15:40
roKBamik: chot hai ye toh15:41
amikArinmal: mazel tov15:41
amikroKB: no comprende15:41
roKBamik: what's TB?15:43
amikroKB: ThunderBird (sorry, I mentioned it before)15:43
EagleScreenrun klipper15:44
EagleScreenKDE may need klipper to copy/paste15:44
amikEagleScreen: just starting it doesn't help. anything else I should try?15:45
roKBisn't klipper installs on upgrade ?15:45
EagleScreenamik: can you reproduce your problem in a clean user enviroment?15:45
Arinmalquick question, I installed kde on another distro a few days ago and it had a darker theme...like the pop up boxes were black...how can i get that back? the silver is hard on my eyes15:46
amikroKB: dunno - I didn't have it before either. I think it starts by default on a clean install, but I never ever used it, so I disabled it years ago. never had a problem though until now.15:46
amikEagleScreen: when u say 'clean'... ?15:46
geniiI'm not running Klipper and I can copy from Kate into KWrite fine.15:46
EagleScreenamik: for instance a new user account recently created15:46
EagleScreenArinmal: it is oxugen theme15:47
genii(KDE 4.3.2, Kate 3.3.2, Kwrite 4.3.2)15:47
amikgenii: kate/kwrite work with themselves, but can copy there and paste in some other apps15:47
EagleScreenoxygen theme15:47
roKBmaybe some applications are using klipper's last selected paste to perform paste operation ... like FF, TB15:47
Arinmalyou mean download another theme?15:47
EagleScreenyou should have it15:47
EagleScreenamik: create a new user for test, it takes just a moment15:49
EagleScreensudo adduser user_name15:49
amikEagleScreen: is it totally reversible? won't screw up my system?15:49
EagleScreenyes user creation is reversible15:49
amikEagleScreen: (sorry, as an ex-win user, I'm used to the fact that *nothing* is reversible :-) )15:49
EagleScreennot here15:50
ArinmalI cant find it eaglescreen...idk what im missing...all i have is the oxygen theme thats silver15:50
amikok, so I'll create a new user with the command above, then logout/switch user, then run kate and firefox and check?15:51
EagleScreenArinmal: are u looking for this theme? http://imagebin.ca/view/M7cpzjH.html15:51
EagleScreenit is oxygen theme15:52
EagleScreenyes amik15:53
Arinmalso I gotta change colors in the installed theme?15:53
EagleScreenArinmal: right click on desktop -> Desktop preferences15:54
Arinmalgot it15:54
Arinmalthanks man15:54
EagleScreenchange Air by Oxugen15:55
EagleScreenin theme15:55
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amikEagleScreen: ok, I logged in as the new user, opened up kate and FF, typed in a few words in kate. copy in kate and paste in FF fails. the other way works ok.15:57
EagleScreenamik: i dont know what to tell you15:58
amikEagleScreen: the right-click menu in ff even shows the paste option grayed out - it really seems to not have anything in the clipboard15:58
EagleScreencheck your KDE isntallation15:59
EagleScreeni am going to replace my amd64 install by the i38615:59
EagleScreenmany programs not ready for 64 bits15:59
amikEagleScreen: I'm on 64 - which apps don't work? haven't noticed any...16:01
EagleScreennspluginviewer crash often16:01
EagleScreenmany web applications or games only work with 32 bits16:01
EagleScreenmany programs as like as wine needs to install the 32bit libs anyway16:02
PAgorehmm maybe i made a mistake then? xD16:02
amikand is 64 actually better for performance? I assumed it better maches the hardware...16:03
PAgorehmm ill dl the newest version of Kubuntu in 2 days,, ,but isnt it slower?16:03
EagleScreenbetter suport for 32 bits in packages around the web: Acrobat reader, flash, Opera etc..16:03
amik(though I'm more of a dev than a gamer, so haven't come across issues. conservative apps, I guess.)16:03
EagleScreenflash sometimes crash in 64 bits16:03
amikEagleScreen: hmmm... now that u mention it... ;-)16:04
pontingthere is a problem in kubuntu 9.1 .beta ..: before copying a file in flash or any media it doesn't ckecks the available space ..and in last..it says can't coppy disc is full..it must be fixed16:04
pontinghave u guy noticed it ..16:04
EagleScreensome web browsers like Arora hasen't any problem in loading plugins in 32 bits, but it hardly load them in 64 bits16:04
amikI do find myself restarting FF every once in a while when I want to watch something on youtube, coz flash is messed up... but I think that's the only issue I noticed16:05
EagleScreenapplications eat more RAM in its 64 bits version16:05
pontinguse FF it's so simple dude16:05
pontingi haven't faced such a problem.16:05
amikI have 4g, and never saw them fully utilized yet, so that's not a concern16:05
amikponting: in FF 64 ur flash works flawlessly for days in a row? multiple tabs open and all?16:06
EagleScreeni think by the moment 64 bits arch has more disadvantages than advantages16:07
PAgorecan you  give the full name of FF?  i cant google for it :)16:07
pontingamik i havn't oprn that much of flash tabs simulateously ...but yaa for 2-3 tabs it is working well16:07
amikFireFox (sorry :-) )16:07
lovrewhen im running a virtual machine, can i get hardware accel, and directx to work?16:07
PAgoreah lol ok i know this xD16:07
Soulsearchhmmm pulseaudio not installed in 9.10?16:07
amikanyway, as for the copy/paste issue - can anyone recomment a kate replacement? a friendly text editor, simple yet full of useful features? lightweight and all? (I'm coming from Notepad++ in windows, if that means anything to anyone)16:08
pontingamik: kate is good tool in gui it's nt that heavy ..16:10
amikand of course, I'm talking of something for those moments when I'm not in a vi mood :-)16:10
PAgorein Xubuntu i used Mousepad16:10
amikponting: yes, but I'm having issues with it (discussed above, if u were here...)16:10
pontingamik: oh i wan't16:11
ubottuText Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) - Terminal-based: nano, vi/vim, emacs - For HTML/CSS editors, see !html - For programming editors and IDE, see !code16:11
pontingthere is a problem in kubuntu 9.1 .beta ..: before copying a file in flash or any media it doesn't ckecks the available space ..and in last..it says can't coppy disc is full..it must be fixed16:12
Piciponting : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Karmic/9.10 support/discussion.16:12
amikthanks for the lists guys, but the wiki page doesn't specify platform for most editors listed, and in any case I was hoping for some personal input, not a random guess :-)16:14
pontingPici: all right16:14
amikor, I'll keep using kate, but paste nothing outside of it. that's what vi is for!16:14
PAgorewhen i use kate i can copy and paste from everywhere16:16
pontingi have a problem if u guyzz can sort it out ..my audio driver is cheating upon me ..sometimes i boot my system n sometime it is working fine ..16:16
amikPAgore: I'm most happy for u :-p16:16
PAgorehmm , maybe you need a update ? :)16:16
pontingthis problme i m facing .in all the OS's16:16
pontingeighter it be  linux or win16:17
pontingPAgore: since the day i got my box.16:17
PAgoreponting: what box do you mean? :)16:18
amikponting: if it works flakily on all OSs, it's likely a hardware issue (and/or bios - r u up to date?)16:18
pontingPAgore: my system i was talking as Box.16:18
pontingamik: i dude i updated it 2months ago16:18
PAgoreponting: Hmm, sry im a Linux noob, and i think i cant help you out :(16:20
pontingPagore: hmm alright.16:21
amikponting: I'm no expert, but if a hardware-related issue happens on different OSs, I'd say the problem is not in th OS, but the hardware...16:21
PAgorebrb, i have to restart after my 188 MB KDE update :)16:22
pontingamik: yaa dude that i am aware..of i just asked for ..some update as firmware update made my DVD drive work well16:22
Shockratesguys hello16:23
* ponting asks for suggestion of .any MSN messanger which can support cam chat for Kubuntu16:23
Shockratesif i autoremove konqueror will there be any problem/16:24
Shockratesare any libs needed for anything else16:24
Shockrates(i have firefox)16:24
pontingShockrates: no there won't be any   problem but why will u remove konqueror it is a nice browser ..16:25
Shockratesi think firefox is better16:25
Shockratesrekonq on the other hand was good indeed16:25
pontingit's up to u16:25
Shockratesi actually run the16:25
* ponting asks for suggestion of .any MSN messanger which can support cam chat for Kubuntu16:26
Shockratesautoremove konqueror command16:26
Shockrateswhich removes some libs which it believes are not needed16:26
pontingso then wat happend.16:26
Shockratesa friend told be that maybe16:26
Shockratessome libs may be needed for other things16:26
carpii_i want to finally upgrade from kubuntu 8.04 to latest ready for 9.10.   Can anyone recommend some software to backup my entire 8.04 installation so I can rollback if I dont like kde 4.x ?16:27
geniicarpii_: Do you have a hd same size or larger than the one your 8.04 is currently on?16:35
carpii_not on the same machine, no :(16:36
carpii_but ive servers which can store it all16:36
carpii_on my lan16:36
geniicarpii_:The other boxes running Linux of some sort?16:36
genii( if so then rsync )16:37
carpii_genii, well they are, but inside a vm16:39
carpii_the servers are running windows, see :/16:39
Shockrateswhat does the autoremove command do?16:40
carpii_just removes packages installed, but no longer needed16:41
geniiShockrates: With apt-get, the autoremove tries to uninstall packages which are listed as not being used, or which have been orphaned16:41
carpii_ah, assuming you mean   apt-get autoremove16:41
amikShockrates: why do u need to uninstall konq? u can still use firefox...16:43
Shockratesamik: i just like 1 thing for 1 job16:44
Shockratesits not a matter of memory16:44
amikShockrates: I use FF too, but it never bothered me that somewhere on the disk konq is in deep slumber...16:44
ponting_pls tell me some ...16:44
Shockratesamik: maybe16:45
Shockratesanyway thanks and cya16:45
amikplus it is a default part of kde/kubuntu, so I might as well leave it there and not take chances that something, someday will break16:45
PAgorehmm guzy i updated KDE but i still cant see Thumbnails :)16:46
PAgorei installed mthumbnailer16:46
PAgorei can see my thumbs  i had when i used ubuntu but i cant create now thumbsnails :)16:46
frozenfoxxQuick question16:50
frozenfoxxShould I look at using the Kubuntu NetBook Remix RC or is it just not worth it at this time for a non-developer and should I instead try to cram the full-blown desktop Kubuntu 9.10 into my netbook16:50
amikI have the same dilemma. anyone?16:51
frozenfoxxI mean, NBR seems pretty functional but I read something about it not really being ready.  I was wondering a bit more about that16:52
amikiirc the kubuntu news page says that the NBR as far as KDE is concerned is not yet a release, but the kubuntu team will cram it into a kubuntu release anyway16:53
amikit sounds like it'll basically work, but probably still have some issues and annoyances16:54
frozenfoxxIt seems to be okay on my notoriously-hard 1101HA so it can't be too bad.  I wonder how bad it would be trying to get the standard KDE 4 desktop working okay on the netbook with the smaller screen16:55
claydohrun nbr from a flash drive and see how it is16:55
amikyou can easily try - aiui they're just different 'desktop' packages, u can install/uninstall as u please without having to wipe the disk or anything16:56
frozenfoxxHmm, could you actually just install the kde-desktop package on a NBR image and switch between the two?16:56
frozenfoxxThat'd probably make me happiest16:56
frozenfoxxI just didn't know how tightly NBR was tied into the other package dependencies16:57
amikmaybe they can even coexist with both options in the login menu? I'm guessing here...16:57
macopretty sure some of the devs do that16:57
geniicarpii_: I don't use Bacula but i hear it can backup your hd to for instance a set of CD/DVD16:57
carpii_ok thanks16:58
frozenfoxxThen I think I'll give that a shot as I really like the NBR direction Kubuntu's taken (honestly I like it a *lot* more than the Ubuntu NBR philosophy) but it'd be nice to have the regular desktop to fall back on if it all goes fubar16:58
carpii_im setting up a new vmware with a huge drive, so i can try various utils16:58
frozenfoxxThanks for the thoughts, everyone, I'll give it a shot here and let you know how it works16:58
linexAnyone here running on raid 1 ?16:58
carpii_luckybackup is one, but i might just use rsync once the vm is ready16:58
amikfrozenfoxx: good luck :-) if it works, I'll probably do the same.16:58
frozenfoxxamik: I'll make sure to hang out in here during the work day for the rest of the week while I try it out, just message me if you want to know how it's going16:59
amikfrozenfoxx: 10x :-)16:59
varanusdoes the side mouse buttons work with kde4.3.2 with karmic?17:02
ponting_varanus: yo!17:03
ubottuKarmic Koala is the codename for Ubuntu 9.10, due October 29th, 2009 - Karmic is still NOT stable and MAY break - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+117:04
varanusponting_: do you know if there is any giude/how to get it to work?17:04
ponting_varanus: dude i installed kde4.3.2 n itzz working fine17:05
varanusponting_: i have it working only with firefox, that's y i asked. ty though17:06
ponting_varanus: well i m working it well with alll appplication nt only FF17:06
varanusponting_: thnx for the info17:08
ponting_varanus: welcome17:08
vbgunzanybody here use the anonymous font at size 8 in the terminal? I get these anomalies of dots on every other line. they go away if i scroll but they get annoying. anyone know what could be happening?17:18
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Aisonis it already possible to download ubuntu 9.10 or do I have to download 9.04 and then upgrade?17:25
Shockrateshi. i cant see videos in youtube17:26
ponting_just upgrade the existing one if u are already running ..the ver..or so!!17:26
Shockratesany ideas?17:26
Shockratesi use firefox and youtube videos appear gray17:26
Aisonponting_, would like to install a new machine17:26
ponting_no not atl all17:27
ponting_Aison: no dude17:27
Aisonfound one ^^17:28
ponting_Aison: thnxx17:34
pontingroKB: apna baar  baar disconnect ho  jaa raha hai ...17:42
ubottuGRUB is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto17:44
ubottuext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org17:49
hackndoesisn't ext 4 the new default?17:52
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JontheEchidnahackndoes: for new Kubuntu 9.10 installs, yes18:01
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kaddihi, I still need help with grub and my 2 windows installations. Somehow my google-skills arent at their best today. :/ I have XP and Win7 installed and want to use grub as a bootloader, but I can't get this to work. The entry for XP takes me to the windowsbootlmanager and the entry I created for win7 doesn't work and I don't see why. It is a copy of the entry for xp with the exception that I adapted the partition18:54
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ward__Hello where are the activities in KDE4 Kubuntu ?19:15
ward__are they stripped out ?19:15
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Mamarokward__: no, they are where they belong, upper right corner, click and select 'Zoom out'19:20
ward__ok found them ;)19:21
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ward__when I try to run my plasmoid I get -> could not start javascript scriptEngine... The plasmoid works on other computers (written in Qtscript).. Am I missing some packages or so ?19:24
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rquirehello I have switched from gnome to KDE... where do I find update-manager?19:30
Tscheesy_rquire: in Karmic? -> Systemsettings - Add/Remove SW19:32
kubuntuserrquire: k menu -> applications -> system -> Software Management19:38
roKBrquire: use `sudo aptitude` command, it is better than gui19:40
roKBrquire: for more info just visit http://www.futuredesktop.org/   .... although it shows how to install software on ubuntu, it's commands are also applicable for kubuntu19:41
bottiger__chrome plays the most annoying sound everytime I open/close a tab. it sounds like an ubuntu theme sound - any idea how to get rid of it19:41
kubuntuserroKB: I do not think you should suggest using the cli to people.19:42
Tscheesy_bottiger__: have a look at Systemsettings - Notifications : Choose the Source from the Drop-Down Menu19:43
bottiger__Tscheesy_: yes, there's no chrome19:43
roKBkubuntuser: i thought CLI is the strongest part of *nix family of OSes19:45
ponting_roKB: u still alive19:45
kubuntuserroKB: it is! However, it scares most people19:45
Tscheesy_bottiger__: so - no further Idea here - chrome-Settings themself?19:45
bottiger__Tscheesy_: nope - there's no sound options there :(19:46
kubuntuserroKB: I only use the kde package manager for alerting me of new updates :-)19:46
alfierethere is someone?19:48
roKBkubuntuser: then, they should use Redmond OS19:49
Tscheesy_!hi | alfiere19:49
ubottualfiere: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines. Enjoy your stay!19:49
roKBponting_: ya still standing after all odds19:49
kubuntuseralfiere: of course people are here19:50
roKB!hi | alfiere19:50
ubottualfiere: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines. Enjoy your stay!19:50
kubuntuseralfiere: no one has questions though19:50
roKB!hi | ponting_19:50
ubottuponting_: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines. Enjoy your stay!19:50
alfierehi rok19:50
alfierei have installed for the first time ubunto19:51
alfiereis good19:51
roKBso did i19:51
alfieremy win xp is dead19:52
alfierewhere are you from?19:52
alfierecan i play with ubunto ?19:54
alfierei'm noob19:54
carpii_what game ?19:55
reagleBRKLNhi everyone, i recently upgraded to KDE 4.3 from 3.5. I really love the Tools in Konqie's menu bar, but I can only see 3 of them (adblock, translate, archive). If I log in with a fresh user, they are all there (validate, change browser string, etc.) Where are these things defined (some rc file in ~/.kde, I can't find it)? Any ideas how to get those back?19:59
alfiere2 - 214219:59
alfiereand company of hero20:00
rquireHey guys! I just switched to KDE from Gnome.. I have Kubuntu 9.04 howdo I upgrade to 9.10 Beta ?20:01
roKBrquire: sudo aptitude update -d20:02
roKBrquire: sudo aptitude safe-upgrade -d20:02
reagleBRKLNrquire: the RC is out already20:02
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ward__Hello somebody here that knows a lot of plasma packages ?20:09
claydohward__: do you want to find extra plasma widgets?20:10
kubuntuserward__: open a konsole and type "sudo apt-get install plasma-widget*"20:10
ward__nope :) ;)20:10
ward__I just created a small QTScript plasmoid20:10
kubuntuserward__: try #kde20:11
ward__but wanted to let you guys now I needed to install plasma-scriptengines maybe its better to have that installed by default ?20:11
ward__how can I reply to somebody fast instead of always typing the nickname on IRC ? :p20:12
kubuntuserward__: type the beginning of then name, and then click tab20:12
ward__kubuntuser: easy ;)20:15
ward__somebody that can give that feedback to the packaging team?20:15
kubuntuserward__: my guess would be that people in #kubuntu-dev are the people to to.20:16
hackndoesif i am running kubuntu rc, will it automaticallly be upgraded to final release tomorrow? or do i have to do something active20:17
claydohhackndoes: yes20:17
kubuntuserhackndoes: it IS karmic20:17
kubuntuseryou would not need to upgrade20:17
kubuntuserjust continue getting updates as they appear20:17
hackndoesgreat, thanks20:17
hackndoeskde4 is nice20:18
claydohward__: If I don't have any plasmas widgets that use those, why should I have it installed?20:18
claydohward__: if i install one that needs it, it would then download the correct engine if packaged correctly20:18
ward__claydoh: I was trying to create one and I missed something but didn't know what ;)20:19
claydohplus space on the cd is limited as well20:19
claydohward__: but that is not of a concern for most end-users :)20:19
DarkTani just had to install windows XP on a free partition and i can no longer access linux or vista, how can i reinstal grub with out the linux install disk?20:41
ralph_hello all, I have a problem with Kubuntu 9.10., when I drag a file/folder/image to my desktop I don't get a mouse menu for selecting a action. (a bug maybe?)20:41
ubottuGRUB is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto20:42
DarkTanis he UNetbootin safe for Vista/win7?20:45
frozenfoxxAs a note for anyone who cares, I'm currently setting up Kubuntu 9.10 RC NBR on my Asus Eee 1101HA (with the godawful GMA 500) and it's going well20:49
DarkTanralph i think you can change that in mouse setting20:49
highvoltagehi! what's the front-end for installing packages in Kubuntu called?20:49
highvoltage(need it for edubuntu documentation)20:49
frozenfoxxI still am having to use a thread or two from the Ubuntu wiki to get the graphics set up but by default it recognizes how to use the wifi and the ethernet ports, which is a plus20:49
frozenfoxxhighvoltage: KPackageKit20:50
DarkTansudo apt-get inteall20:50
highvoltagethanks frozenfoxx20:50
frozenfoxxhighvoltage: No problem, it's pretty nice now and getting better20:50
frozenfoxxhighvoltage: It's fully replaced Adept and is used in several other distros with KDE like Fedora, so it's getting a lot stronger community.  Hope you like it20:50
highvoltagefrozenfoxx: cool. I mostly need it for the edubuntu release notes, but I'll give KDE a proper try again soon :)20:51
ralph_@darktan: no, can't see anyting there. (it's only not working on the desktop, it's working inside Dolpin and pannel etz)20:56
frozenfoxxhighvoltage: Yeah, it's "getting better all the time." :)20:58
ralph_I fixed is (it's official ITS A BUG :( )... <I opened Dolpin /desktop and copy a file en deleted again, the icon apears op the desktop and go's away again. Now if I copy a file to the desktop it's showing the menu again. (I can't reproduce the bug again)20:58
highvoltagefrozenfoxx: :p20:59
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kubuntuser!hi Roey21:33
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about hi Roey21:33
kubuntuser!hi | Roey21:33
ubottuRoey: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines. Enjoy your stay!21:33
Roeymonte48lowes: can you give some sort of advice on grub?21:33
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about advice21:37
ubottuSo, you wanted to lure me into saying I don't know anything about anything? Yeah, that would be funny, of course. Now leave me alone.21:37
kubuntuserubottu is smart21:37
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about is smart21:37
kubuntuserXD nm21:38
ubottuGRUB is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto21:38
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viviaHi, How can i assign a certain keyboard shortcut to open a certain application?21:54
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viviamy new keyboard has some Word/Excel/Calculator keys which I want to take advantage of :)21:54
monte48lowesI have used gizmod to do this a long while back21:55
monte48lowesI don't know if it's still up to date21:56
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viviamonte48lowes: thanks, installing... io think kde3 had it as a built-in function, right?21:59
viviamonte48lowes: ok this will need me to look it up. thanks :)22:01
viviamonte48lowes: found it in the control center -> input actions, you can create a new one :)22:04
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wyterzHello boys, Im new to Kubuntu.. Im trying to install the flash plugin for firefox but I keep getting this error Only one software management tool is allowed to run at the same time..22:10
wyterzI am not installing something else at the same time22:10
monte48lowesopen 'konsole' and issue 'sudo apt-get update' and 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'22:11
benjamin_okay, so I did an "update-notifier-kde -d" in order to upgrade to the 9.10 RC. All I get though is a little popup that says "No new upgrade available". Any idea what I'm doing wrong?22:24
inrainI have a really stupid question. I am running kubuntu and i'm new with this, and i insert a data dvd in my laptop, but i don't know how to open the content in a folder. can anyone help mt thx22:25
Bwyardhow do i reinstall network-tools if i dont have interenet22:25
Bwyardcus i accidently removed them22:25
benjamin_inrain: open up dolphin, the disk should show up on the left hand side22:26
benjamin_Bwyard: no idea. i've done that before... no idea how to fix it22:26
benjamin_Bwyard: i think there's a way to install it from disk, but i don't know how22:27
Bwyardoh ok22:27
inrainbenjamin_ theres only home, network root and trash,22:27
benjamin_inrain: you could try poking around in /media22:28
benjamin_inrain: if it doesn't show up in dolphin though, i don't think it's mounted22:28
dmattinrain: if it is not empty media, it should pop up in Device Notifier, there you can click on it and it opens in Dolphin22:29
inrainbenjamin_ ok. I just upgraded. if thats the case, i'm gonna try to fix it tomorrow coz its past midnight in finland :=22:30
dmattinrain: and when you finish, you unmount it again in Device notifier (it is the same process as happens with USB keys and you should do it)22:30
benjamin_okay, so I did an "update-notifier-kde -d" in order to upgrade to the 9.10 RC. All I get though is a little popup that says "No new upgrade available". Any idea what I'm doing wrong?22:30
viviaBwyard: fetch the disk, find where it contains the .deb files, copy them all to /var/cache/apt/archives (as root) then install it normally22:31
viviait won't download them22:31
Bwyardwait what22:32
viviaBwyard: sorry even easier. uncomment first line from /etc/apt/sources.list22:32
vivia#deb cdrom:[Kubuntu 9.04 _Jaunty Jackalope_ - Release i386 (20090420.1)]/ karmic main restricted22:32
viviathis line. remove the22:32
viviathe #22:32
viviathen apt-get update and install22:32
Bwyardbut i dont have internet22:32
Bwyardim on vista22:33
Bwyardxubuntu does not have internet because i dont have th enetwork tools22:33
viviaBwyard: it's ok if you don't have internet22:34
viviaopen (as root) the file /var/cache/apt/archives and remove the # before the first line, the one that talks about cdrom22:34
viviathen install normally. it will install from cd if available22:35
Bwyardso i have to have th xubuntu cd in then22:35
Bwyardwell how do i enable root22:35
Bwyardmy root is disabled22:35
Bwyardwell what would the command be to edit that file22:35
Bwyardthe exact command22:36
benjamin_sudo kate /var/cache/apt/archives (maybe)22:36
dmattsudo nano /var/cache/apt/archives22:36
vivia+1 for nano22:36
viviakate is for kubuntu not xubuntu22:36
Bwyardwell ill try it ill be back22:37
benjamin_the save/quit options in nano are different than most, fyi22:37
Bwyardhave to switch os22:37
Bwyardit worked22:49
benjamin_Bwyard: gz22:51
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benjamin_okay, so I did an "update-notifier-kde -d" in order to upgrade to the 9.10 RC. All I get though is a little popup that says "No new upgrade available". Any idea what I'm doing wrong?23:30
dmattbenjamin_:  try to do normal update&upgrade first23:35
benjamin_dmatt: yeup, did that first. even installed the handful of packages that were kept back23:36
bbeckjoin #perl23:38
dmattbenjamin_: try to ask in ubuntu+1 channel, i made fresh install23:41
Roeycan anyone help me with this install issue?  seems like it doens't load raid drivers on startup so the kernel can't find /.23:46
Roeywhich is on softraid1.23:46
Roeyhttp://pastebin.com/m5e8ba990  <--- output of 'blkid', device.map and grub.cfg.23:46
Roeynot sure if this info all agrees with itslf23:46
RoeyI did a stock install and it won't boot.23:46
alan__How can I activate ths TAGS funtion in Dolphin?23:51
alan__As long as I've seen, eveyone seems to have it activate by defoult. I dont... :(23:52

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