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| dtchen | bdmurray: as usual, #409819 is one of those now-useless bug reports | 03:10 |
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| dtchen | bdmurray: it needs some serious love, ideally constrained to the reporter's precise hardware | 03:10 |
| dtchen | bdmurray: no, they very much are for that bug report. | 03:19 |
| dtchen | bdmurray: it's quite possible that the bug is currently incorrectly affecting pulseaudio | 03:19 |
| dtchen | bdmurray: ideally I need Andres to reproduce this symptom using the 20061026.2 daily-live, and I need his apport-collect -p alsa-base info. From there, we can determine whether it's a regression in linux, and if so, whether installing linux-backports-modules-alsa-karmic resolves it | 03:21 |
| dtchen | err, 20091026.2, of course | 03:21 |
| dtchen | not three years ago ;-) | 03:22 |
| dtchen | bdmurray: does that help clarify the murkiness? | 03:23 |
| bdmurray | dtchen: yes, I think so | 03:28 |
| VXxed | Is anyone available that can help me with my laptop fan issue? I have it fully documented here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1300733 | 03:40 |
| VXxed | Is anyone even in here..? | 03:52 |
| Hobbsee | yes, but most people are asleep now | 03:55 |
| VXxed | Blargh. | 03:59 |
| VXxed | And I'm never online earlier. | 03:59 |
| VXxed | Well, rarely. | 03:59 |
| CryingFreeman | Hi, there! I registered a bug with the 2.6.31-14 kernel. The 2.6.31-11 kernel boots, but not the -14 version. I figured that was an ubuntu problem and not an upstream issue? https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/461737 | 09:42 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 461737 in linux "Kernel 2.6.31-14-generic does not boot" [Undecided,New] | 09:42 |
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| Chorca | any protocol for when a bug is labeled a duplicate of a private bug? | 12:45 |
| thekorn | Chorca: I think this info should be in the activity log of the bugreport | 12:50 |
| thekorn | there is a link to this page at the bottom of the page, | 12:50 |
| thekorn | close to the last comment | 12:51 |
| Chorca | just says it's been marked as a duplicate | 12:55 |
| Chorca | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/461690 | 12:55 |
| ubot4 | Chorca: Error: This bug is private | 12:55 |
| Chorca | the bug it was marked as a duplicate of is private | 12:56 |
| bddebian | Boo | 14:30 |
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| ikt | -_- | 17:14 |
| ikt | Oct 28 03:43:11 ikt-desk bonobo-activation-server (ikt-14421): could not associate with desktop session: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-dDE0RcgFZf: Connection refused | 17:14 |
| ikt | that is bad | 17:14 |
| ikt | keyserver down? | 17:30 |
| VXxed | Hey, is anyone here who can help me with what I think is an acpi issue? | 18:41 |
| davmor2 | VXxed: try #ubuntu or #ubuntu+1 | 18:42 |
| VXxed | Alright | 18:42 |
| VXxed | Mmf. As useful as ever. | 18:51 |
| hggdh | VXxed: I have a bit of time now | 18:52 |
| VXxed | Awesome, you're still around | 18:52 |
| VXxed | Alright, so since you last gave me advice | 18:53 |
| VXxed | I boot into grub and realized that I had no idea how to do anything there, BUT I also noticed that the fan was on | 18:53 |
| VXxed | Perfectly. | 18:53 |
| VXxed | And it turns off as soon as grub switches out into Ubuntu | 18:53 |
| hggdh | ok. First thing we need is to look at the boot log -- please pastebin the output of 'dmesg' | 18:54 |
| VXxed | One sec, lemme log into irc on the laptop itself | 18:55 |
| VXxed | It seems like there's more info than scrolling space. Am I right in that? | 18:56 |
| hggdh | VXxed: 'sudo apt-get install pastebinit' | 18:58 |
| hggdh | then 'dmesg | pastebinit' and write here the resulting URL | 18:58 |
| VXxed1 | Gotcha | 18:58 |
| VXxed | Sorry by the way for not knowing the basics, I'm just trying to get by for now | 18:59 |
| VXxed1 | http://pastebin.com/f2aae15de | 18:59 |
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| VXxed1 | hggdh, so what do you think? | 19:09 |
| hggdh | VXxed: sorry, got drawn on another issue. Looking at it now | 19:09 |
| VXxed | No problem at all | 19:10 |
| hggdh | VXxed: this is a laptop? With 8 cores? | 19:10 |
| VXxed | ..No o_O; | 19:10 |
| VXxed | This is a T4020D tablet laptop from fujitsu | 19:10 |
| VXxed | Single core 1.73ghz | 19:11 |
| hggdh | ah | 19:11 |
| VXxed | http://reviews.cnet.com/tablet-pcs/fujitsu-lifebook-t4020d-tablet/4507-3126_7-31518031.html?tag=mncol;psum | 19:11 |
| hggdh | VXxed: a quick look does not show any boot errors, at all | 19:13 |
| hggdh | and more to the point, no acpi errors | 19:14 |
| VXxed | That's...really weird. | 19:14 |
| VXxed | Because as soon as Ubuntu boots out of grub, the very second, the fans shut off. | 19:14 |
| VXxed | And only turn on again at extreme heats where it's almost too late to be of any use | 19:15 |
| VXxed | Which I'm guessing is because the sensors don't pick up any temperatures | 19:16 |
| hggdh | hum. | 19:17 |
| VXxed | hggdh: I stumbled upon a link two days ago where a guy had a similar issue in arch linux, which he fixed by correcting his DSDT table..and I found an ubuntu-specific guide in the wiki for fixing it | 19:17 |
| VXxed | But that looked like it was really far into the software core, so I didn't want to start messing around with superior approval | 19:17 |
| hggdh | this *might* work, if there is a ACPI-related issue. It was/is common for manufacturers to put out crappy ACPI code | 19:17 |
| hggdh | you could try it, if the DSDT is for the same machine | 19:18 |
| VXxed | The link was for reconfiguring ones own | 19:19 |
| VXxed | So it might work? | 19:19 |
| VXxed | Here, lemme send you a link | 19:19 |
| VXxed | http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=8166923&postcount=7 | 19:20 |
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| hggdh | it might. The problem is to understand what the code does. This is where a the acpi.info link I gave you might help | 19:23 |
| VXxed | 700 pages of documentation though..sweet jesus. I didn't even know where to start reading | 19:23 |
| hggdh | :-) | 19:24 |
| hggdh | it will get worse... | 19:24 |
| VXxed | Wouldn't it technically be possible to look at a windows acpi for my laptop and see where it's picking up access to the fans? | 19:25 |
| hggdh | there are some packages dealing with sensors, like lm-sensors | 19:25 |
| hggdh | VXxed: the ACPI (i.e., the DTDT) is the same | 19:25 |
| VXxed | Erm, not sure if I related my findings on that to you | 19:25 |
| VXxed | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8176017#post8176017 | 19:25 |
| VXxed | Here's my whole thing | 19:25 |
| VXxed | Post #3 deals with lm-sensors | 19:26 |
| hggdh | yes. All you need to modprobe is i2c-i801, and adm1021 | 19:31 |
| hggdh | you do not seem to have smartbatt | 19:31 |
| VXxed | But you saw what happened when I tried to run sensors :\ | 19:31 |
| hggdh | yes. modprobe these two, and try sensors again | 19:32 |
| VXxed | Alright, lemme boot it back up | 19:32 |
| VXxed | I try not to keep it on for more than half an hour to an hour..get worried | 19:32 |
| hggdh | VXxed: you do not need to reboot | 19:33 |
| hggdh | load the modules, and try sensor again | 19:33 |
| hggdh | ah. Sorry | 19:33 |
| VXxed | Yep | 19:33 |
| VXxed | I just turned it off a little while ago | 19:33 |
| VXxed1 | ronen@vxtablet:~$ sudo modprobe adm1021 | 19:36 |
| VXxed1 | [sudo] password for ronen: | 19:36 |
| VXxed1 | ronen@vxtablet:~$ sudo modprobe i2c-i801 | 19:36 |
| VXxed1 | ronen@vxtablet:~$ sensors | 19:36 |
| VXxed1 | lm84-i2c-5-19 | 19:36 |
| VXxed1 | Adapter: SMBus I801 adapter at 14e0 | 19:36 |
| VXxed1 | Board Temp: +0.0°C (low = +0.0°C, high = +0.0°C) | 19:36 |
| VXxed1 | CPU Temp: +0.0°C (low = +0.0°C, high = +0.0°C) | 19:36 |
| hggdh | VXxed: what version of Ubuntu? | 19:36 |
| VXxed1 | 9.10 | 19:38 |
| VXxed1 | Updating from 9.04 was the first thing I did to try to fix it.. | 19:38 |
| VXxed1 | Ironically, it shunned me from essentially all help. Awesome :| | 19:38 |
| hggdh | VXxed: this, then, sounds like a real bug. I think you had one opened for this, did you not? | 19:41 |
| VXxed1 | Indeed I did | 19:42 |
| VXxed1 | But it would be good if you would look it over and see if there's anything I need to add | 19:43 |
| hggdh | bug #? | 19:43 |
| VXxed | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/461675 | 19:43 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 461675 in ubuntu "Fans not spinning up..seemingly no ACPI information loaded" [Undecided,New] | 19:43 |
| VXxed | I'm adding the link to the boot log | 19:43 |
| hggdh | attach the boot log, it is better | 19:43 |
| VXxed | Mmm, should I copy from the website and make a .txt? | 19:44 |
| hggdh | also, attach the output of running sensor-detect, and the sensor run | 19:44 |
| hggdh | yes, make it a txt | 19:44 |
| hggdh | brb | 19:44 |
| VXxed1 | Go right ahead | 19:44 |
| VXxed | hggdh: Should I include anything else, like uname -a or anything of that sort? | 19:58 |
| ikt | anyone know where the config file is for gnome-system-log in karmic? | 20:05 |
| hggdh | VXxed: I do not think so | 20:15 |
| VXxed | Oh. Well, I'm adding uname -a, sudo lspci -vvnn, and sudo dmidecode | 20:15 |
| VXxed | Because https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingACPI said so | 20:15 |
| VXxed | For filing bug reports | 20:15 |
| VXxed | Should I assign it to any specific package and/or person? | 20:20 |
| dtchen | please do not assign bugs to anyone unless explicitly requested by the person. | 20:21 |
| VXxed | Gotcha | 20:21 |
| VXxed | Just making sure | 20:22 |
| VXxed | Thank you for all your help hggdh. I'm glad someone was able to help me out with it...who knows where I'd be right now | 20:30 |
| hggdh | welcome | 20:35 |
| ikt | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-utils/+bug/374320 <- do we send this upstream to debian ? | 20:36 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 374320 in gnome-utils "Gnome System Log Complains About btmp log permissions" [Low,Confirmed] | 20:36 |
| ikt | because the help and man pages suggest it has been changed | 20:36 |
| seb128 | ikt, you can send it to GNOME if you want | 20:39 |
| ikt | the thing is that it says in the man page the config file is | 20:39 |
| seb128 | but I think there is already a bug about not displaying errors about logs not readable there | 20:39 |
| seb128 | what? | 20:40 |
| ikt | /etc/syslog.conf being the config file | 20:40 |
| ikt | ah ok | 20:40 |
| ikt | but /etc/syslog.conf doesn't exist locally | 20:40 |
| seb128 | the config file is what? | 20:40 |
| ikt | for gnome-system-log | 20:40 |
| seb128 | what is your issue exactly.? | 20:41 |
| ikt | there's no way to change any of the options | 20:41 |
| ikt | it's just plain trying to read all the log files | 20:41 |
| seb128 | what are you trying to change? | 20:41 |
| seb128 | right, which is fine | 20:41 |
| seb128 | it should just ignore the ones which are not there or readable | 20:41 |
| ikt | yeah | 20:41 |
| ikt | that sounds better than what I was chasing | 20:42 |
| ikt | cheers :) | 20:43 |
| seb128 | ikt, https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=567169 | 20:44 |
| ubot4 | Gnome bug 567169 in logview "could not open files error displayed for no good reason" [Normal,Unconfirmed] | 20:44 |
| seb128 | ikt, see that bug | 20:44 |
| ikt | yeah that's the exact same bug I was on :D | 20:45 |
| seb128 | ok good | 20:45 |
| BUGabundo | howdy | 21:53 |
| ZachK_ | hello all | 22:51 |
| alex-weeej | anyone know of USB Audio working on amd64? | 22:58 |
| ZachK_ | alex-weeej, hmmm not sure | 23:19 |
| alex-weeej | ZachK_, tested a Behringer UCA202 and it failed on 3 different amd64 systems but worked on one of the same ones running i686 jaunty | 23:20 |
| alex-weeej | class compliant with no firmware | 23:20 |
| alex-weeej | absolutely gutted | 23:20 |
| alex-weeej | we were going to use it for our streaming server | 23:20 |
| ZachK_ | alex-weeej, then i would say usb audio doesn't work... | 23:21 |
| ZachK_ | bdmurray, help please.. | 23:27 |
| bdmurray | ZachK_: with what? | 23:28 |
| ZachK_ | bdmurray, how am i supposed to triage bugs if i can't set the importance of a bug | 23:28 |
| ZachK_ | which is part of triaging | 23:28 |
| bdmurray | ZachK_: you can change the status of bugs after investigating them and if you find one that you need the importance set for you can ask someone in this channel | 23:29 |
| ZachK_ | bdmurray, oh ok...i'm just trying to get into the bug control team which says that you need to have a list of triaged bugs... | 23:30 |
| bdmurray | ZachK_: it's possible to perform bug triage without setting the Triaged status or importance | 23:31 |
| ZachK_ | bdmurray, ok...well i shall mail in my application then...will you be the one to review it? | 23:31 |
| hggdh | any of us will review it, ZachK_ | 23:32 |
| hggdh | usually, at least two | 23:33 |
| bdmurray | heh | 23:33 |
| ZachK_ | now how do i keep a list? | 23:34 |
| hggdh | well. You can write down the bugs, or keep the list in a draft email | 23:34 |
| ZachK_ | ok..just making sure | 23:34 |
| hggdh | please be sure to include what is the importance you would give to each of them, and why | 23:35 |
| hggdh | ZachK_: the idea is to show us those bugs you consider the best work you have done on triaging. Please keep that in mind | 23:37 |
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