[00:50] * BUGabundo /usr/local/bin/xfcre76 BUGabundo | tee /dev/sleep [03:10] bdmurray: as usual, #409819 is one of those now-useless bug reports [03:10] bdmurray: it needs some serious love, ideally constrained to the reporter's precise hardware [03:19] bdmurray: no, they very much are for that bug report. [03:19] bdmurray: it's quite possible that the bug is currently incorrectly affecting pulseaudio [03:21] bdmurray: ideally I need Andres to reproduce this symptom using the 20061026.2 daily-live, and I need his apport-collect -p alsa-base info. From there, we can determine whether it's a regression in linux, and if so, whether installing linux-backports-modules-alsa-karmic resolves it [03:21] err, 20091026.2, of course [03:22] not three years ago ;-) [03:23] bdmurray: does that help clarify the murkiness? [03:28] dtchen: yes, I think so [03:40] Is anyone available that can help me with my laptop fan issue? I have it fully documented here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1300733 [03:52] Is anyone even in here..? [03:55] yes, but most people are asleep now [03:59] Blargh. [03:59] And I'm never online earlier. [03:59] Well, rarely. [09:42] Hi, there! I registered a bug with the 2.6.31-14 kernel. The 2.6.31-11 kernel boots, but not the -14 version. I figured that was an ubuntu problem and not an upstream issue? https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/461737 [09:42] Launchpad bug 461737 in linux "Kernel 2.6.31-14-generic does not boot" [Undecided,New] === bfox_ is now known as bfox [12:45] any protocol for when a bug is labeled a duplicate of a private bug? [12:50] Chorca: I think this info should be in the activity log of the bugreport [12:50] there is a link to this page at the bottom of the page, [12:51] close to the last comment [12:55] just says it's been marked as a duplicate [12:55] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/461690 [12:55] Chorca: Error: This bug is private [12:56] the bug it was marked as a duplicate of is private [14:30] Boo === |Myxb| is now known as Myxb === thiras_ is now known as Thiras [17:14] -_- [17:14] Oct 28 03:43:11 ikt-desk bonobo-activation-server (ikt-14421): could not associate with desktop session: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-dDE0RcgFZf: Connection refused [17:14] that is bad [17:30] keyserver down? [18:41] Hey, is anyone here who can help me with what I think is an acpi issue? [18:42] VXxed: try #ubuntu or #ubuntu+1 [18:42] Alright [18:51] Mmf. As useful as ever. [18:52] VXxed: I have a bit of time now [18:52] Awesome, you're still around [18:53] Alright, so since you last gave me advice [18:53] I boot into grub and realized that I had no idea how to do anything there, BUT I also noticed that the fan was on [18:53] Perfectly. [18:53] And it turns off as soon as grub switches out into Ubuntu [18:54] ok. First thing we need is to look at the boot log -- please pastebin the output of 'dmesg' [18:55] One sec, lemme log into irc on the laptop itself [18:56] It seems like there's more info than scrolling space. Am I right in that? [18:58] VXxed: 'sudo apt-get install pastebinit' [18:58] then 'dmesg | pastebinit' and write here the resulting URL [18:58] Gotcha [18:59] Sorry by the way for not knowing the basics, I'm just trying to get by for now [18:59] http://pastebin.com/f2aae15de === asac_ is now known as asac [19:09] hggdh, so what do you think? [19:09] VXxed: sorry, got drawn on another issue. Looking at it now [19:10] No problem at all [19:10] VXxed: this is a laptop? With 8 cores? [19:10] ..No o_O; [19:10] This is a T4020D tablet laptop from fujitsu [19:11] Single core 1.73ghz [19:11] ah [19:11] http://reviews.cnet.com/tablet-pcs/fujitsu-lifebook-t4020d-tablet/4507-3126_7-31518031.html?tag=mncol;psum [19:13] VXxed: a quick look does not show any boot errors, at all [19:14] and more to the point, no acpi errors [19:14] That's...really weird. [19:14] Because as soon as Ubuntu boots out of grub, the very second, the fans shut off. [19:15] And only turn on again at extreme heats where it's almost too late to be of any use [19:16] Which I'm guessing is because the sensors don't pick up any temperatures [19:17] hum. [19:17] hggdh: I stumbled upon a link two days ago where a guy had a similar issue in arch linux, which he fixed by correcting his DSDT table..and I found an ubuntu-specific guide in the wiki for fixing it [19:17] But that looked like it was really far into the software core, so I didn't want to start messing around with superior approval [19:17] this *might* work, if there is a ACPI-related issue. It was/is common for manufacturers to put out crappy ACPI code [19:18] you could try it, if the DSDT is for the same machine [19:19] The link was for reconfiguring ones own [19:19] So it might work? [19:19] Here, lemme send you a link [19:20] http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=8166923&postcount=7 === drew2121 is now known as drew212 [19:23] it might. The problem is to understand what the code does. This is where a the acpi.info link I gave you might help [19:23] 700 pages of documentation though..sweet jesus. I didn't even know where to start reading [19:24] :-) [19:24] it will get worse... [19:25] Wouldn't it technically be possible to look at a windows acpi for my laptop and see where it's picking up access to the fans? [19:25] there are some packages dealing with sensors, like lm-sensors [19:25] VXxed: the ACPI (i.e., the DTDT) is the same [19:25] Erm, not sure if I related my findings on that to you [19:25] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8176017#post8176017 [19:25] Here's my whole thing [19:26] Post #3 deals with lm-sensors [19:31] yes. All you need to modprobe is i2c-i801, and adm1021 [19:31] you do not seem to have smartbatt [19:31] But you saw what happened when I tried to run sensors :\ [19:32] yes. modprobe these two, and try sensors again [19:32] Alright, lemme boot it back up [19:32] I try not to keep it on for more than half an hour to an hour..get worried [19:33] VXxed: you do not need to reboot [19:33] load the modules, and try sensor again [19:33] ah. Sorry [19:33] Yep [19:33] I just turned it off a little while ago [19:36] ronen@vxtablet:~$ sudo modprobe adm1021 [19:36] [sudo] password for ronen: [19:36] ronen@vxtablet:~$ sudo modprobe i2c-i801 [19:36] ronen@vxtablet:~$ sensors [19:36] lm84-i2c-5-19 [19:36] Adapter: SMBus I801 adapter at 14e0 [19:36] Board Temp: +0.0°C (low = +0.0°C, high = +0.0°C) [19:36] CPU Temp: +0.0°C (low = +0.0°C, high = +0.0°C) [19:36] VXxed: what version of Ubuntu? [19:38] 9.10 [19:38] Updating from 9.04 was the first thing I did to try to fix it.. [19:38] Ironically, it shunned me from essentially all help. Awesome :| [19:41] VXxed: this, then, sounds like a real bug. I think you had one opened for this, did you not? [19:42] Indeed I did [19:43] But it would be good if you would look it over and see if there's anything I need to add [19:43] bug #? [19:43] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/461675 [19:43] Launchpad bug 461675 in ubuntu "Fans not spinning up..seemingly no ACPI information loaded" [Undecided,New] [19:43] I'm adding the link to the boot log [19:43] attach the boot log, it is better [19:44] Mmm, should I copy from the website and make a .txt? [19:44] also, attach the output of running sensor-detect, and the sensor run [19:44] yes, make it a txt [19:44] brb [19:44] Go right ahead [19:58] hggdh: Should I include anything else, like uname -a or anything of that sort? [20:05] anyone know where the config file is for gnome-system-log in karmic? [20:15] VXxed: I do not think so [20:15] Oh. Well, I'm adding uname -a, sudo lspci -vvnn, and sudo dmidecode [20:15] Because https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingACPI said so [20:15] For filing bug reports [20:20] Should I assign it to any specific package and/or person? [20:21] please do not assign bugs to anyone unless explicitly requested by the person. [20:21] Gotcha [20:22] Just making sure [20:30] Thank you for all your help hggdh. I'm glad someone was able to help me out with it...who knows where I'd be right now [20:35] welcome [20:36] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-utils/+bug/374320 <- do we send this upstream to debian ? [20:36] Launchpad bug 374320 in gnome-utils "Gnome System Log Complains About btmp log permissions" [Low,Confirmed] [20:36] because the help and man pages suggest it has been changed [20:39] ikt, you can send it to GNOME if you want [20:39] the thing is that it says in the man page the config file is [20:39] but I think there is already a bug about not displaying errors about logs not readable there [20:40] what? [20:40] /etc/syslog.conf being the config file [20:40] ah ok [20:40] but /etc/syslog.conf doesn't exist locally [20:40] the config file is what? [20:40] for gnome-system-log [20:41] what is your issue exactly.? [20:41] there's no way to change any of the options [20:41] it's just plain trying to read all the log files [20:41] what are you trying to change? [20:41] right, which is fine [20:41] it should just ignore the ones which are not there or readable [20:41] yeah [20:42] that sounds better than what I was chasing [20:43] cheers :) [20:44] ikt, https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=567169 [20:44] Gnome bug 567169 in logview "could not open files error displayed for no good reason" [Normal,Unconfirmed] [20:44] ikt, see that bug [20:45] yeah that's the exact same bug I was on :D [20:45] ok good [21:53] howdy [22:51] hello all [22:58] anyone know of USB Audio working on amd64? [23:19] alex-weeej, hmmm not sure [23:20] ZachK_, tested a Behringer UCA202 and it failed on 3 different amd64 systems but worked on one of the same ones running i686 jaunty [23:20] class compliant with no firmware [23:20] absolutely gutted [23:20] we were going to use it for our streaming server [23:21] alex-weeej, then i would say usb audio doesn't work... [23:27] bdmurray, help please.. [23:28] ZachK_: with what? [23:28] bdmurray, how am i supposed to triage bugs if i can't set the importance of a bug [23:28] which is part of triaging [23:29] ZachK_: you can change the status of bugs after investigating them and if you find one that you need the importance set for you can ask someone in this channel [23:30] bdmurray, oh ok...i'm just trying to get into the bug control team which says that you need to have a list of triaged bugs... [23:31] ZachK_: it's possible to perform bug triage without setting the Triaged status or importance [23:31] bdmurray, ok...well i shall mail in my application then...will you be the one to review it? [23:32] any of us will review it, ZachK_ [23:33] usually, at least two [23:33] heh [23:34] now how do i keep a list? [23:34] well. You can write down the bugs, or keep the list in a draft email [23:34] ok..just making sure [23:35] please be sure to include what is the importance you would give to each of them, and why [23:37] ZachK_: the idea is to show us those bugs you consider the best work you have done on triaging. Please keep that in mind