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davmor2xivulon: hit an issue with wubi kne last night I'm assuming it is the max_iso_size but if I had any persistence to the usb stick, install inside windows disappeared from the wubi menu08:32
xivulondavmor2, yes the algorithm is wrong08:38
davmor2xivulon: cool bug 461566 if you want to comment08:39
ubottuLaunchpad bug 461566 in wubi "kne image plus persistence means that the iso size is too large I believe" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/46156608:39
xivulonmorning evand08:47
evandhallo08:47
xivulonhave a quick look at 46156608:48
davmor2evand: more noticeable with kne it's slightly larger than unr08:49
evandI think a DVD being offline is still a likely scenario.08:49
xivulonwe could have: min_iso_size < used < DVD_size08:51
xivulona quick and dirty patch, but should give us a bit of headroom08:52
davmor2evand: as a temporary work round for unr and kne I'm thinking just tell people if they want to install using wubi don't enable persistence08:52
davmor2works fine then08:52
evanddavmor2: I think telling them to use the force option would be better08:52
xivulonis the release on schedule?08:55
evandxivulon: I suspect most users will max out the persistence size08:56
xivulontrue08:56
evandso I don't see letting it through so long as it's less than the size of the DVD being of much help08:56
evandI think our best bet is to release note this, tell users to use --force if on a usb disk, and fix it properly in lucid08:56
evandxivulon: yes, it appears to be on schedule08:57
xivulonI agree this is not critical, and it will not justify a respin08:57
xivuloneven if we had a proper patch, which we don't at the moment08:57
xivulonby the way it is "--force-wubi"08:59
evandindeed09:01
evandbug updated09:01
davmor2evand, xivulon: Yay on a plus side with persistence removed it installs fine :)09:04
evandhooray09:05
cjwatsonevand: http://paste.ubuntu.com/302653/ http://paste.ubuntu.com/302654/09:31
evandcool, thanks09:31
aracjwatson, I am getting a crasher in ubiquity: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/46137710:02
ubottuError: This bug is private10:02
aracjwatson, I just changed it to public10:02
* cjwatson hands ara a ticket10:02
cjwatsonI'll queue it up :10:03
cjwatson:)10:03
aracjwatson, hehehehe10:03
CIA-6ubiquity: evand * r3561 ubiquity/ (debian/changelog scripts/install.py):10:17
CIA-6ubiquity: Do not fail if linux-generic-pae is not in the package cache.10:17
CIA-6ubiquity: Thanks Colin Watson (LP: #461377).10:17
CIA-6user-setup: evand * r206 ubuntu/ (debian/changelog user-setup-apply):10:21
CIA-6user-setup: Check if filesystems are already mounted before attempting to mount10:21
CIA-6user-setup: them (LP: #461546).10:21
CIA-6ubiquity: evand * r3562 ubiquity/ (bin/oem-config-firstboot debian/changelog):10:24
CIA-6ubiquity: Really don't run oem-config again. Thanks Colin Watson10:24
CIA-6ubiquity: (LP: #461546).10:24
CIA-6ubiquity: cjwatson * r3563 server-fixes/debian/ (changelog oem-config.oem-config.upstart):10:29
CIA-6ubiquity: * Fix debconf frontend:10:29
CIA-6ubiquity:  - Start oem-config on stopping rc, as well as when starting display10:29
CIA-6ubiquity:  managers.10:29
CIA-6ubiquity: evand * r3563 ubiquity/ (apport/source_ubiquity.py debian/changelog): Fix broken reference in the apport hook (LP: #461757).10:39
CIA-6ubiquity: cjwatson * r3564 server-fixes/ (debian/changelog ubiquity/frontend/debconf_ui.py):10:42
CIA-6ubiquity: Add some missing imports (ubiquity.frontend.base.Controller,10:42
CIA-6ubiquity: ubiquity.plugin.Plugin, ubiquity.i18n).10:42
CIA-6ubiquity: cjwatson * r3565 server-fixes/ (5 files in 4 dirs):10:44
CIA-6ubiquity: If there's a containing debconf frontend, talk to it rather than using10:44
CIA-6ubiquity: debconf-communicator.10:44
CIA-6ubiquity: cjwatson * r3566 server-fixes/ (debian/changelog ubiquity/components/ubi-language.py): Set a controller in the language plugin.10:45
CIA-6ubiquity: cjwatson * r3567 server-fixes/ (3 files in 2 dirs):10:46
CIA-6ubiquity: Use spaces rather than ${!TAB} in localechooser in OEM mode, since10:46
CIA-6ubiquity: debconf doesn't support the latter yet.10:46
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CIA-6ubiquity: cjwatson * r3568 server-fixes/ (debian/changelog ubiquity/components/usersetup.py): Don't handle user-setup preseeding for the debconf frontend.10:51
CIA-6ubiquity: cjwatson * r3569 server-fixes/ (3 files in 2 dirs): localechooser condition should be debconf frontend, not OEM mode11:44
CIA-6ubiquity: cjwatson * r3564 ubiquity/ (debian/changelog ubiquity/components/partman.py):12:16
CIA-6ubiquity: Run partman in the noninteractive frontend (otherwise we try to install12:16
CIA-6ubiquity: to the live CD root!).12:16
CIA-6ubiquity: cjwatson * r3565 ubiquity/ubiquity/components/partman.py: need implementation of set_part_page for noninteractive too12:30
CIA-6ubiquity: cjwatson * r3566 ubiquity/ (debian/changelog ubiquity/frontend/noninteractive.py):12:33
CIA-6ubiquity: Explicitly print noninteractive output to the console (as the Python12:33
CIA-6ubiquity: debconf module redirects sys.stdout to sys.stderr which ends up in12:33
CIA-6ubiquity: /var/log/installer/debug).12:33
CIA-6ubiquity: evand * r3567 ubiquity/ (3 files in 2 dirs):12:47
CIA-6ubiquity: Add noninteractive pages for user-setup and migrationassistant as12:47
CIA-6ubiquity: well.12:47
CIA-6user-setup: evand * r207 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.27ubuntu1113:02
CIA-6ubiquity: evand * r3568 ubiquity/ (d-i/manifest debian/changelog):13:21
CIA-6ubiquity: Automatic update of included source packages: user-setup13:21
CIA-6ubiquity: 1.27ubuntu11.13:21
CIA-6ubiquity: evand * r3569 ubiquity/debian/changelog: releasing version 2.0.513:33
kd35aevand: Hi, I've got some problem with installing usb-creator under Debian14:36
kd35athis i what i try to do: http://pastebin.com/m8e1eb5d14:36
kd35athe folder '/usr/share/usb-creator/' doesn't exist on my system14:37
evandkd35a: please use debuild to create the package, and dpkg to install it14:37
kd35ado you know what could be wrong?14:38
kd35aok, in the same way as you describe here then? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/usb-creator14:38
kd35athanks :)14:38
evandI wouldn't install all the packages like that14:40
evandas you'll also install the kde frontend14:40
evandyou'll only need to install usb-creator-common and usb-creator-gtk14:40
evandassuming you're running gnome14:40
kd35aahh, ok, I'll just use debuild first, and then look for the right .deb-packets14:41
CIA-6partman-basicmethods: cjwatson * r765 ubuntu/ (choose_method/dont_use/choices debian/changelog): Restore executable bit on choose_method/dont_use/choices.14:52
CIA-6partman-basicmethods: cjwatson * r766 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 43ubuntu214:55
CIA-6partman-target: cjwatson * r783 ubuntu/ (debian/changelog finish.d/clear_partitions): Fix clearing of subdirectories of /usr and /var (LP: #461698).15:00
kd35aevand: It works now, and thanks for great software :)15:05
evandkd35a: glad to hear it15:05
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CIA-6partman-target: cjwatson * r784 ubuntu/finish.d/clear_partitions: adjust log message too15:15
Nivexcjwatson: I see you got a fix in for my iSCSI bug.  I hope to give it a thorough test this evening.15:16
CIA-6partman-target: cjwatson * r785 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 64ubuntu515:16
CIA-6ubiquity: cjwatson * r3570 ubiquity/ (d-i/manifest debian/changelog):15:20
CIA-6ubiquity: Automatic update of included source packages: partman-basicmethods15:20
CIA-6ubiquity: 43ubuntu2, partman-target 64ubuntu5.15:20
cjwatsonNivex: thanks15:21
CIA-6ubiquity: cjwatson * r3571 ubiquity/debian/changelog: releasing version 2.0.615:24
flagg0204has anyone successfully installed ubuntu to an iscsi target, and have it work on reboot?16:49
cjwatsonflagg0204: I made changes for that yesterday16:50
cjwatsonvery late yesterday, in fact16:50
cjwatsonafter that, it actually worked for me; before that, it was broken16:51
flagg0204odd.  so i built an iscsi target, used debootstrap to populate it.   using gpxe to boot.  currently it hangs after the grub menu because it cant find vmlinuz or initrd16:52
flagg0204trying to figure out how to update grub or initrd to support iscsi16:52
cjwatsonif it can't find the vmlinuz, updating the initrd won't help16:53
cjwatsonAFAIK that is meant to be the BIOS' problem16:53
flagg0204yeah im grasping at straws i admit.  so its probably a grub change that has to happen?16:53
cjwatsonI was using a homebrewed setup, copying the kernel and initrd out and passing them by hand to kvm16:53
flagg0204ah16:54
cjwatsonI can ask a colleague who was testing with gpxe16:54
flagg0204only if its not too much trouble16:54
cjwatsonhe said it got further than that for him, though16:54
cjwatson(before my fixes)16:54
flagg0204yeah, mine pulls down the grub config,  the menu is presented.  when you select the default menu item, then it hangs16:54
cjwatsonwhich sort of suggests to me that it's a BIOS-level problem - for booting, the bootloader is not meant to have to understand iSCSI16:54
flagg0204well technically it dumps me to busybox16:54
cjwatsonoh, then you didn't describe the problem accurately :)16:55
flagg0204ah16:55
flagg0204my mistake16:55
flagg0204yes dumps me to busybox16:55
cjwatsonit could find both the vmlinuz and initrd, if you get a busybox prompt16:55
cjwatsonwhat it couldn't find was the root filesystem16:55
cjwatsoncan I recommend that you use the actual installer to do this, rather than debootstrap?16:55
cjwatsonthere are quite a few bits and pieces you need to get into the initramfs16:55
cjwatsonand the installer (as of *today*'s server CD) automates it for you16:56
flagg0204for the server iso?16:56
flagg0204or desktop16:56
cjwatsonserver16:56
cjwatsonbut you can always install from the server ISO, and then install ubuntu-desktop on top :)16:56
flagg0204ah.  is that in the usual releases.ubuntu.com or whatever16:57
cjwatsonhttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/daily/current/16:57
flagg0204ah ok16:57
flagg0204ill give that a try again.  thanks for the help16:57
flagg0204last time i attempted the install on iscsi, it didn't show any of the luns that i had exposed from my netapp16:58
flagg0204it saw the netapp, just none of the luns16:58
flagg0204amd you couldn't set the initiator name16:58
cjwatsonthat I don't know about, I've only been able to test my code against a software target17:00
cjwatsonflagg0204: educate me, if you would - what's setting the initiator name needed for?17:02
cjwatsonI can't change it now for 9.10, but can consider improvements for 10.0417:02
cjwatsonat the moment, we use iscsi-iname to generate a unique node name starting with iqn.1993-08.org.debian:0117:03
NivexSome SAN devices use the initiator name for ACLs17:06
NivexNetApp in particular17:06
NivexI think it would be a good idea to have a blueprint for improving iSCSI support going into Lucid17:06
cjwatsonwell, at least file bug reports17:07
cjwatsonwe can consider whether it needs the heavyweight blueprint process based on that17:07
Nivexyeah, once Karmic's out the door I'll file a couple wishlists17:07
Nivexthe other thing to add would be prompts for CHAP credentials17:08
flagg0204cjwatson well filers have igroups.  and the way the filer knows what lun to map an initiator to is by the initiators name17:12
flagg0204nivex - chap is a good idea as well17:12
cjwatsonok, those should both be doable17:13
flagg0204iscsitarget is much more forgiving of initiator names, as you can simply allow all initiators to connect to any lun.  not sure if you can do that with netapp17:14
flagg0204cjwatson - when you booted iscsi root volume, are you just using pxe/dhcp?17:43
cjwatsonI pointed kvm at the kernel and initrd directly :)17:47
cjwatsonbut I know that mathias was using gPXE and got out of the initramfs17:47
flagg0204doh.   yeah forgot about the kvm part :)17:47
cjwatson17:26 <mathiaz> cjwatson: root-on-iscsi from gPXE works correclty here!17:47
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flagg0204cjwatson - just another confirmation.   gpxe / iscsi root to a linux iscsitarget does work.  although there are some stranges errors probably related to networking setup in initrd18:26
flagg0204but it did work18:26
lzoulekI was here earlier today and you guys helped me out a lot installing an application. Now I am trying to install a plugin and am not able to get it done correctly. Can anyone help me out19:55
cjwatsonflagg0204: ok, thanks19:56
cjwatsonlzoulek: you sure it was here? this channel isn't normally for application installation, it's for initial installation of the operating system19:57
cjwatsonlzoulek: and I don't see your name in scrollback19:57
lzoulekmaybe it was ubuntu beginner19:57
lzouleknot sure19:57
lzoulekdo i need to go to another room?19:58
davmor2ubuntu beginner sounds more realistic :)19:58
lzoulekok i will go there then, ty19:58
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Nivexcjwatson: I confirm the bug is clear. Thank you thank you thank you!23:07
Nivexnow, totally unrelated to iSCSI, but the installer23:15
NivexI installed with tasks=standard on the command line.  Got a minimal CLI system, but with openoffice.org installed23:15

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