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hipitihopI'm running HMDI audio and each time I reboot I need to go into the mixer and reenable one of the switches.... how can I get things to stick ?00:05
foxbuntuhipitihop, make sure you are up to date, I think there was a bug filed/fixed for that very issue recently00:35
hipitihopfoxbuntu: been keeping pretty mcuh up to date but doing update now and will confirm. thanks00:42
DonGiovanniHello, I have an issue where devices set to /dev/lirc0 will work but devices set to /dev/lirc1 will not (ir receiver on lirc0 and transmitter on lirc1 = ir receiver (remote) only works, if i switch transmitter to lirc0 and remote to lirc1 then only the transmitter works), any ideas?00:50
DonGiovanniI have a thread open here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1301052 with my conf files posted00:51
hipitihopfoxbuntu: indeed sound works perfectly fine after reboot.... hurray progress ?00:58
hipitihopif I could only get my lirc working I'd actually have a working HTPC... usbhid still refuses to let go00:59
fritz3000gHi there.  New IRC user.  I ran into a problem with mythtv today, which I am baffled by.  When I click "watch tv", it goes black for a few seconds and then goes back to the main menu.  The other symptom is that all my recordings are shown as grey and say that the can not be accessed.  I was thinking that it might be a permissions problem, but my whole user directory is 777 permissions with mythtv as a group.  Also, var/01:09
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fritz3000g1Sorry if you're seeing this again.  I was on the online portion, then installed pidgin and I think that means I should post again.  So here is the question I asked a few minutes ago, again.01:30
fritz3000g1I ran into a problem with mythtv today, which I am baffled by.  When I click "watch tv", it goes black for a few seconds and then goes back to the main menu.  The other symptom is that all my recordings are shown as grey and say that the can not be accessed.  I was thinking that it might be a permissions problem, but my whole user directory is 777 permissions with mythtv as a group.  Also, var/lib/myth  is the same.  Any ideas?01:30
OpenMediaWith Mythbuntu 9.10 rc I can't disable the Category Text fields in the EPG.01:52
OpenMediaI've check the database and the value for EPGShowCategoryText is zero.01:53
OpenMediaAny ideas?01:54
joatfritz3000g1: did you upgrade a kernel recently?01:59
fritz3000g1No not recently.  Been waiting for 9.10.02:00
joathave you rebooted lately?02:01
fritz3000g1Yeah a few minutes ago I did.02:01
joatand it still acts up?02:01
fritz3000g1Yeah, still acts up.02:01
superm1does the log show anything useful?02:02
superm1!logs02:02
ZinnMythTV logs are stored in /var/log/mythtv/   You can use mythbuntu-log-grabber from the Applications menu to automatically post the most relevant logs to our pastebin.02:02
fritz3000g1Sure it's here:02:02
joatyikes!02:03
mrandhaha02:03
superm1hence the reason for pastebin :02:03
joatheh02:03
superm1fritz3000g, please use pastebin02:03
fritz3000gYeah sorry.  First timer.02:03
superm1if you run that tool, it will put everything on a pastebin for you02:04
superm1and you can just post the URL here02:04
fritz3000gHere's the link to the pastebin.  Thanks superm1 for the tip.02:05
fritz3000ghttp://paste.ubuntu.com/302472/02:06
superm1fritz3000g, that's not the log we're looking for, the backend log is what we are looking for02:06
superm1that looks like a frontend log to me02:07
fritz3000gI'm not sure if I did it right, but the tool that came up gave me this link:  http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/f6d25d82802:09
superm1so according to that you've got a problem with mysql it would appear02:10
superm1well two problems that i see actually02:11
superm1#02:11
superm12009-10-26 20:48:29.019 SG(Default) Error: FindNextDirMostFree: '/home/fritz3000g/mythtv/recordings' does not exist!02:11
superm1so make sure your storage directory is set up right02:11
superm1and the other thing, check the mysql table for error02:11
fritz3000gThat's odd.  I see the directory there with 777 permissions.  How do I check the mysql table?02:12
superm1can you run "ls -alhR /home/fritz3000g/mythtv/recordings" in a terminal and pastebin that output?02:13
superm1perhaps its a small typographical error somewhere02:13
superm1sort out that problem first, and then we'll see if the other fixes itself since files can be written again02:13
fritz3000gHere it is: http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/m78cd0c8b02:15
superm1well gee, that's perplexing then!02:15
fritz3000gThanks I suppose.02:16
superm1is it possible that the drive is almost full?02:16
mranddf -k02:17
fritz3000gNo it's got 228 gigs free.02:17
fritz3000gI noticed this error in the logs I posted.  The file isn't there as far as I can tell.  /usr/share/gvfs/remote-volume-monitors: Error opening directory '/usr/share/gvfs/remote-volume-monitors': No such file or directory02:18
superm1well it wouldn't hurt to do an fsck on the disk02:19
superm1i wonder if you've got some corruption somewhere perhaps?02:19
fritz3000gI've done that before but not recently.  What command would you use?02:19
superm1if you boot some live media and run "fsck DEVICE"02:20
superm1where DEVICE is the partition node in /dev/02:20
superm1like /dev/sda102:20
fritz3000gOk.   I'll give that a try.  Thanks for the help superm1.02:20
superm1np, good luck :)02:20
OpenMediaumm. Wondering if my issues are due to a database from MythTV 0.20 that I upgraded to 0.2202:21
superm1in theory the database is supposed to be fully upgradable02:21
OpenMediaThe DB upgrade broke at the following schema versions02:22
OpenMedia117002:22
OpenMedia117602:22
OpenMedia119802:22
OpenMediaHere is the debug output for 1170, http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/m42bf42c402:24
superm1that was skipping 0.21 though?02:24
OpenMediaI checked out that there was no issues with the query and then bumped the database version to allow the upgrade to complete. Otherwise I'm stuck in an infinite DB upgrade loop.02:24
OpenMediaYeah. No upgrade to 0.21. It was a DB backup from 0.20.02:25
mrandit really shouldn't matter.02:25
mrandFrom a pure database standpoint.02:25
OpenMediaHere is an updated link showing all 3 of the updates that failed02:26
OpenMediahttp://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/d5bf8d58702:26
OpenMediaI've tested upgrading the same 0.20 database to 0.21 under Mythbuntu 9.04 without any issues. This problem only happens on 0.22 and Mythbuntu 9.1002:27
superm1tbh, those things are probably best raised in #mythtv-users and/or on a bug report on svn.mythtv.org than here02:27
OpenMediaJust checking it wasn't something you'd seen before.02:27
superm1Nope, sorry :(02:27
mrandmdean on the mythtv-users mailing list often looks over these kinds of reports as well.02:28
OpenMediaOtherwise seriously impressed with 0.22 on 9.10.02:28
OpenMediaOne oddity I've got is I can't disable the Category Text fields in the EPG. Looking at the database the value for EPGShowCategoryText is zero which is what I'd expect.02:29
hadsOpenMedia: It's theme dependant now.02:31
hadscsed -i 's/<showcategories>yes<\/showcategories>/<showcategories>no<\/showcategories>/' /usr/share/mythtv/themes/Mythbuntu/schedule-ui.xml02:31
hadserm, minus that c.02:31
OpenMediahads: Cheers. Bit odd. It used to be selectable in the setup.02:33
hadsYeah, they (upstream) decided to make it theme dependant.02:34
OpenMediaNice.02:37
DonGiovanniany ideas what would cause a device set to /dev/lirc1 to stop working when they otherwise work when set to /dev/lirc0?03:02
fritz3000gWhey you say "set to", you mean in xorg.conf?03:05
DonGiovanninah in my /etc/lirc/hardware.conf03:08
DonGiovannii have a remote (ir receiver) and a serial ir transmitter.  whichever device i set to /dev/lirc0 will work, the one assigned to /dev/lirc1 will not work03:09
fritz3000gNot sure, even after half the day working on lirc myself.03:11
DonGiovannithe confusing thing is03:12
DonGiovannithis configuration has worked perfectly for almost two years now03:13
DonGiovannithen my harddrive died so i reinstalled mythtv on a new drive and just used the backups of my config files03:13
DonGiovannibut for some reason only the first lirc device works, the second one doesn't03:14
DonGiovannihttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=130105203:14
fritz3000gPosted this earlier, and was recommended to run fsck on the disk.  Here's the original post, and the error log.  I ran into a problem with mythtv today, which I am baffled by.  When I click "watch tv", it goes black for a few seconds and then goes back to the main menu.**The other symptom is that all my recordings are shown as grey and say that the can not be accessed. I was thinking that it might be a permissions problem, but my whole user dire03:16
tgm4883fritz3000g, what about your user dir?03:20
fritz3000gIt's got 777 permissions.03:22
tgm4883your recording directory is inside your user directory?03:22
fritz3000gYeah it is.03:22
tgm4883yea don't do that03:22
fritz3000gWhat should it have?03:23
tgm4883you should put it outside your user directory, owned by mythtv:mythtv and permissions 755 I think03:23
fritz3000gOk I'm moving it.03:26
tgm4883there is also03:27
tgm4883!%blank%03:27
ZinnIf you try to watch tv and are greeted with a blank screen and a return to the menu then please check the permissions on your recording directory.  It should be owned by mythtv:mythtv, have permissions of 775, and not be inside your home directory03:27
fritz3000gOk I'll do that too.  Thanks.03:29
fritz3000gHey who knew.  It worked.  Thanks Zinn and tgm4883.03:40
tgm4883fritz3000g, np, I've seen many strange issues putting it in the home dir03:41
hads!blank05:02
ZinnSorry I don't know about blank05:02
hads!blankscreen05:02
ZinnIf you try to watch tv and are greeted with a blank screen and a return to the menu then please check the permissions on your recording directory.  It should be owned by mythtv:mythtv, have permissions of 775, and not be inside your home directory05:02
hads!bla%05:02
ZinnIf you try to watch tv and are greeted with a blank screen and a return to the menu then please check the permissions on your recording directory.  It should be owned by mythtv:mythtv, have permissions of 775, and not be inside your home directory05:02
hipitihophow do I disable userid & password prompt on the http asx stream ?06:29
ToeBeemine doesn't have one. Then again, I don't have any password on my mythweb in the first place06:34
ToeBee(my mythbox is not accessible from outside of my network)06:34
ToeBeeon the other hand, video isn't working in mine :/06:35
VhexationSo...tech support? = )  I'm running Mythbuntu and upgraded a few weeks ago to 9.10.  Things were pretty good, but yesterday I ran updates on the server (required a reboot) and since it came back up I've been having weird sound issues.  I have a PVR-350 and HVR-1600.  The programs that were recorded with the PVR-350 today had no sound.  So I checked LiveTV and sure enough, the PVR-350 had no sound in live TV, but the HVR-1600 had sound08:43
hadsVhexation: PVR-150 here works with current updates. Not very helpful but it's not all of ivtv that's broken08:57
VhexationThat's helpful though, means I might not have to look too deep into ivtv.  It might be my box for all I know.  I had a PVR-500 do something similar with video last year.09:05
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Dorgohey guys.12:47
Dorgobeen trying to install mythbuntu 9.10 all day. every time , it reaches 76% and dies with [Errno 5] input/output error at 76%12:49
Dorgoi have tried both the beta and the RC (burned two disks each, at 24x), checked the MD5.12:49
Dorgothree different hard drives.12:49
Dorgoany ideas?12:49
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mrandDorgo:  1. Where are you getting the .iso from?  2. Did you try booting in both live mode (option 1) and install mode (option 2, I think).  They behave slightly differently, but both allow for installing.    3. Did you try booting in safe mode?13:16
Dorgoiso from mythbuntu website. yes tried both live and install.13:16
Dorgonot safe mode13:16
mrandI would hope safe mode wouldn't help if you're already up and running at 76%13:16
Dorgojust burned a new cd of a different type with a different program and ran the disk check and got no errors13:17
mrandProbably not worth trying.13:17
Dorgoso let me try this one before we look any further13:17
mrandBackup is to try standard ubuntu desk.13:17
Dorgok13:17
Dorgojust a random question... am i cool to just do the guided partitioning on an 80gb then move around partitions later to for example use the other 500gb for data etc?13:22
DorgoI couldn't find a decent explanation of the ideal partitions and filesystem types13:22
mrandThe mythbuntu disk that is likely going to press is here: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/mythbuntu/daily-live/current/   but the changes between rc and release on mythbuntu are pretty small.  You can get the latest ubuntu disk from here (this is likely what will be going to press): http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/13:22
Dorgogot 40gb,80gb&500gb in the box13:23
mrandYes, 80 GB is more than enough for OS and everything... really only takes a couple gigabytes.13:23
Dorgook13:24
Dorgowell how about that. it was just dodgy cds (or a dodgy burning program) :-D13:40
mrandgreat@!13:41
Dorgoyep :) now i just have to work out how to get it to see all the movies, tv and music i already have. capture card mission tomorrow.13:42
BicchiI have a question regarding HDTV. Currently i use a box to convert the analog signal to digital that feeds to my TV.16:06
BicchiWhat kind of card would I need that is compatible with Mythbuntu16:06
BicchiI also need one that would allow me to change channels, that is, that it comes with a remote control.16:07
BicchiMy setup is like this: [COAX CABLE FROM THE STREET] -> [HD BOX] -> [LCD TV]16:08
BicchiI would like to use another output from the [HD BOX] to feed the signal to a TV card in the mythbuntu.16:09
BicchiMy current TV card (PVR-250) doesn't record in HD and don't know what other options i have to record the signal.16:11
tgm4883Bicchi, are you sure the HD BOX isn't converting the digital signal to analog?16:19
ToeBeeor for that matter from digital to digital like my setup16:22
ToeBeedigital cable -> converter box -> HDMI16:22
Bicchiwell comcast advertises it as a "High Definition Television"16:23
ToeBeepretty sure any HD content you get is coming in over "digital cable"16:24
Bicchii think it is just used to boast the HD signal that comes in the coax16:24
ToeBeeit is probably decrypting the digital HD video stream using a CableCard stuck in the back16:25
BicchiAnyway, anything i record with the PVR-250 looks awfull now that i got a HD TV16:26
Bicchii think cause is recording at 720x480 quality16:27
BicchiMy TV is playing things at 1920x1080 resolution.16:27
BicchiWhich explains why i want to get a card that can record at those high resolutions.16:28
ToeBeeyeah same here. The problem is the encryption that comcast puts on the digital signal. Unless something has changed recently, you can't get a CableCard tuner that works in Linux :(16:28
Bicchii was looking at this one pcHDTV 550016:28
tgm4883Bicchi, you need an HDPVR16:28
ToeBeeheck, your TV probably has a digital tuner in it so you wouldn't even need the HD Box they gave you... except your TV can't read the encrypted signal16:30
tgm4883likely, you would only receive local HD channels16:31
BicchiI see. I can see some channels in high def. without the box like CBS.16:31
ToeBeeyeah. The others are all encrypted. I'm pretty sure Comcast does this mostly just to force you to pay the extra $5/month for the cable box16:32
Bicchii thought the box would boost the signal or something.16:32
ToeBeesame thing with mythtv. They want you to shell out $15/month for *their* HD DVR. But yeah, that hd-PVR should work16:32
ToeBeehttp://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Hauppauge_HD-PVR16:32
ToeBeenope16:33
ToeBeesignal is fine. They're just money-grubbing bastards :)16:33
Bicchiwhat a crap is comcast trying to pull off16:33
Bicchithe lady over the phone told me that the box was to increase the signal strength and without i will not be able to see channels in high def.16:34
ToeBeenot just comcast. I have the same issue with Cox16:34
ToeBeewow. I'm pretty sure that is a big load of steaming crap16:34
ToeBeebut they are correct that you DO need it to see all your HD channels. It just has nothing to do with signal strength16:36
ToeBeeunless your TV has support for CableCard16:36
tgm4883Bicchi, yea, they people you talk to aren't very technical16:36
Bicchii though the box was to convert the signal from 480i into like 1090i. something like that.16:37
tgm4883well it does do some conversion, but nothing that mythtv couldn't handle itself. And the conversion it does is whatever the channel broadcasts in to whatever you selected it to come out as16:38
tgm4883But really, the only technical reason you need the cable box is because they encrypt their content16:38
Bicchiok16:39
Bicchiwill the tunner from the hd-pvr be able to change the channels?16:39
tgm4883well you need to an IR blaster, but IIRC the HDPVR has one16:39
tgm4883IIRC, you can use firewire to change the channels too (and not record), but i'm not 100% sure on that16:40
Bicchiany internal pci/pci-e you recommend that plays nice in linux ?16:40
tgm4883Bicchi, do you want to get more channels than just your Local HD?16:40
Bicchiif possible yes16:41
mrandBicchi: there is only one HD capture device, the HD-PVR.  Anything else will only be able to capture un-encrypted channels.16:41
tgm4883Then there is no internal card that will do what you want to do, not for Linux, Windows or Mac16:41
Bicchiwhat about this one. i know is not internal http://www.hauppauge.com/site/products/data_hdpvr.html16:41
mrandLast I heard, jarod was working on getting the IR blaster working on it.  I don't know the latest status.16:41
tgm4883wtf are we talking about here?16:41
tgm4883Bicchi, you mean the same card we have been recommending you get for the last 10 minutes?16:42
tgm4883well, technically it isn't a card16:42
ToeBeewell not so much "card" as "box"16:42
tgm4883but yea16:42
ToeBeeheh16:42
Bicchii know is not a card.16:42
Bicchii was just asking if this one http://www.hauppauge.com/site/products/data_hdpvr.html records more thant the local channels16:43
ToeBeeyes, it basically acts as a TV. You hook it up to your cable box with component cables16:43
tgm4883No, that box that we have been recommending for the last 15 minutes to do exactly what you want which is capture all channels your cable box16:44
tgm4883 /sarcasm16:44
ToeBeethen it captures the picture signal and sends it to a computer via USB16:44
Bicchidoes it work with mythtv and does it bring a remote control?16:45
tgm4883Bicchi, I'm going to let ToeBee answer that16:45
Bicchidon't worry i am just going to google the rest. thanks guys16:45
ToeBee:/ I already linked you to the mythtv page for it16:45
ToeBeeI don't think it comes with a remote though16:46
ToeBeenow if you can write to your congress critter and/or the FCC and convince them to outlaw all this DRM crap then the world would be a much happier place for all of us16:48
tmktodd problems with mythtv 0.22 2-3minute delay for the remote to start working on initial FE startup17:21
tmkt2 - Choices in Terra theme like Video Manager and Delete Videos that are useless17:21
tgm4883tmkt, useless how?17:24
tmktjust there is no point for them17:52
tmktvideo browser does all the work17:52
tmktgo to Delete Videos17:52
tmktit just plays them17:52
tgm4883tmkt, not sure about the delete videos, i'd check your logs18:06
tgm4883video manager has been removed in the latest mythtv builds18:07
Memphisauyeah, was sad to see it go :P18:08
tmktno need for it...just like delete videos...is not needed18:10
Memphisauactually I quite liked it, it was easy to tell the family members: navigate to video manager, click that, then go back to 'watch videos' and the new shows on the USB hdd they plugged in would be available18:11
Memphisaunow I have to define a menu button and teach them a new trick to do that18:11
Memphisauthis is on a remote though18:11
MythbuntuGuest34can someone tell me if the 6200ch binary is included in Mythbuntu 9.10 RC? I see it is part of Ubuntu's MythTV package but I can't find the executable to change channels on my Motorola box18:39
tgm4883tmkt, why is delete videos not needed?18:51
MythbuntuGuest34I cannot find the binary and I also am getting an error making the file from source "cannot find lraw1394" I am a bit stuck. Any help would be appriciated.19:01
tgm4883MythbuntuGuest34, where do you see it's in the mythtv package?19:09
tgm4883and what is the binary called?19:09
tgm4883MythbuntuGuest34, looks like it is in the /usr/share/doc/mythtv-backend/contrib/channel_changers/6200ch/ directory19:10
MythbuntuGuest346200ch.c is the binary, and this link says it is included in the ubuntu mythtv package https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV_External_Channel_Changer19:11
tgm4883but doesn't look to be compiled19:11
MythbuntuGuest34yes I have the directory (and sorce files) but I am getting an error saying cannot find lraw1394 when trying to compile19:11
tgm4883well that file is there, it's zipped though19:11
tgm4883well if you are trying to compile it, it's not the binary19:11
* tgm4883 shrugs19:12
MythbuntuGuest34brb, firefox is frozen with this java aplet open, I am going to look again for the binary19:13
tgm4883I can't find a single file containing the keyword 6200.ch19:13
tgm4883which is what the binary should be called19:13
tgm4883foxbuntu, do you know ^^19:13
MythbuntuGuest34did you say the binary was in the 6200ch.c.gz file?19:15
MythbuntuGuest34I can't find/open that file anymore but locate 6200 still shows it in the .../6200ch folder19:16
MythbuntuGuest34I also tried downloading the precompiled 6200ch.c file from the ubuntu wiki link earlier but the file no longer exists on the server19:18
tgm4883no, i don't see the binary anywhere19:27
MythbuntuGuest34ok, I guess I will need to either track it down or figure out why it isn't included. For now I guess I will try out mythchanger https://wiki.ubuntu.com/majoridiot19:30
MythbuntuGuest34mythchanger is working fine for now. I will just stick with that. Thanks for your help tgm488320:28
javatexanso why xfce instead of gnome?21:35
javatexanjust curious21:38
superm1well at the time it was because gnome is much more heavyweight21:40
superm1nowadays that proved to be a good decision with how tight pulseaudio is with them21:40
superm1and with their move to heavy compositing/gnome-shell next year21:40
javatexank21:41
Redhammer_the_Olhi21:59
Redhammer_the_OlI had to reinstall eveything the other day (corrute backup) and decided to go with 9.10rc and now I am having trouble with a couple of items: a) shutdown will not work anymore, log says "sudo no tty present and no askpass" as an error message and I have read that I need to ## out the requirement for tty in te sudoers but I cannot seem to find anything in my sudoers file ...22:01
Redhammer_the_Olwhen starting up mythfront end from command line I can see that it cannot connect to the lcd server, the lcd display in my case shows the time but nothing else, any ideas why that is22:02
Redhammer_the_Olthirdly has anyone installed 9.10 and then enable the avenard repo and been sucessful22:03
Redhammer_the_Olthanks for all your help22:03
foxbuntutgm4883, I do, but I would have to look it up, its something like that, 6200dch maybe?22:33
tgm4883Redhammer_the_Ol, why would you activate the anenard repo on 9.10?22:45
tgm4883I thought that just enabled VDPAU on 0.21?22:46
Redhammer_the_Olat tgm4883: because it gives more audio options22:48
hipitihoptgm4883: IS VDPAU enabled by default ? or how do I tell if it is being used ?22:50
tgm4883hipitihop, enabled by default, no. you need to set up a playback profile for it22:51
hadstgm4883: I think the only thing jya has with 0.22 is the new audio patches22:52
hadssoftware volume and upmixing etc.22:52
tgm4883ah ok22:52
Redhammer_the_Oland the audio patches help me output to multiple options22:53
Redhammer_the_Olanyone have any ideas abou the lcd connection problem and about the sudo no tty present and no askpass ?22:53
hadsYeah I was hoping that would make it into 0.22, at least 0.23 won't be too far away22:53
hipitihoptgm4883: so VDPAU is a playback option ... I assume the wiki had doc23:03
hipitihopwhat streaming protocols does myth support ? I see mythweb provides ASX which seems ot be a stream and a mpg which is full file download ..23:30
hadsASX is a wrapper around the actual stream23:31
hadswget it and take a look23:31
hadsSo the streaming it support is just a HTTP stream of the recording from the backend.23:32
hipitihophads: what format is the http stream ?23:36
hadsWhat the recording is.23:37
hadsActually, maybe it's not.23:37
hadsYeah I think it is.23:37
hipitihopI'm just trying to wok out what players understand the stream.... I can use vlc on my desktop but vlc is not available on all platforms/distros23:38
hadsWhy not?23:38
hipitihopnot sure .... for example, I have a freerunner phone, running a debian distro but vlc is not available, at least not in the normal feeds, whereas mplayer is there.23:40
hadsOh that type of platform.23:40
hadsWell yeah, standard recording format I believe.23:41
hipitihopmaybe the question is, can I get mythfront end on to it :-)23:41
hipitihopok, how do I disable mythweb security ... those stream links always need userid and password and while vlc handles it correctly, gnome-mplayer and others don't and just fail.23:43

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