[14:03] anyone here i can talk to about mesa's build system and 64-bit issues? [14:41] bryce_: ping [14:41] talking about mesa's build system. hah. [14:43] heh yes i am =p [14:43] it's miserable and annoying by the way [14:43] hyperair: I think you already talked a lot about it in #ubuntu-devel, maybe you can file a bug and sum up what is needed? [14:44] tormod: actually i think i'll use an existing bug. [14:44] even better [14:44] but yeah i'll sum it up with a debdiff as well soon [14:44] even better yet :) [14:44] tseliot, this dell 10v touchpad detect does not seem to take every time you boot, more like 4 out of 5 [14:44] and an upstream patch. [14:46] apw: what do you mean? And can I see a log? [14:46] hyperair: then it can't get better :) [14:46] heh =) [14:46] i should have looked at this earlier though =\ [14:47] tseliot, all i know is that sometimes i boot the boundary and 90pixel or less thing don't get applied ... i can apply them by hand successfully [14:47] tseliot, i am not the only one seeing the same [14:48] apw: maybe Hal fails to apply your settings? [14:48] tseliot, perhaps ... /me knows nothing :) [14:48] i report it to you having watched scott beat the crap out of his machine for it :) [14:49] hehe [14:49] apw: maybe try reinstalling the synaptics package? It could be that the fdi cache was corrupted [14:50] oh and reboot, just to be sure [14:50] tseliot, its random when it does it, ie not all the boots [14:51] apw, blame upstart ;) [14:51] he'll love you for that [14:51] apw: it sound like a Hal bug. You might want to ask pitti about this [14:51] hehe [14:51] tseliot, thanks [14:51] thanks for reporting the problem === ripps_ is now known as ripps [15:40] * hyperair notes that mesa has some real huge lintian issues [15:42] namely? [15:48] jcristau: you should have asked faster, i lost my logs already =.= [15:48] lemme re-lintian it [15:49] it should have a couple warnings, but nothing "huge" [15:50] http://pastebin.com/f3aff1fde [15:50] lots of nice Es [15:51] that's fine [15:51] it's not lots of Es, it's one E [15:54] eh? [15:54] i'm quite sure i saw more than one [15:54] oh well [15:55] it's the same, once for each lib [15:57] * hyperair thinks dpkg/apt should gain some real multiarch support [16:54] * hyperair pulls out hair after the third compilation of mesa that failed to do what was needed [16:57] good lord. there has to be a reason why mesa's debian/rules is so bloody cluttered. [16:57] what the hell are you trying to do? [17:13] oh i was trying to pass an environment variable into make [17:14] first i exported, then i realized make doesn't honour exported variables =.= [17:14] first compilation. [17:14] so i passed it into one of the $(MAKE)s, but got the wrong one instead [17:14] install instead of build [17:14] * hyperair facepalms [17:14] so after loads of digging, i finally found the build one [17:16] * hyperair gapes at lzma's memory usage [17:16] 400M to compress a deb. woo [19:40] tjaalton, I went ahead and posted about the scheduling conflicts we've had with X in ubuntu to xorg-devel@ [19:40] tjaalton, so far looks like I'm being ignored as usual ;-) [19:44] bryce_: yeah I noticed.. we'll see if someone responds :) [19:55] are there any known issues with GTK apps and nvidia drivers in karmic? [20:15] hi seb128 [20:15] hey micahg [20:15] seb128: do you know anything about GTK problems in karmic with nvidia chipsets? [20:15] no [20:15] or rather the proprietary drivers? [20:15] oh [20:16] what sort of issue do you get? [20:16] well, people keep reporting sefaults and crashes with our firefox in karmic [20:16] but the mozilla version seems to work fine [20:16] that's why I was wondering if our GTK apps are having issues [20:17] our gtk has no distro change [20:17] and I don't think mozilla has a gtk copy [20:17] could be some cairo changes though [20:17] do you have a bug example? [20:17] i'll have to find one [20:18] upstream mozilla has a cairo copy I think [20:18] we use the system one in ubuntu, so they might have changed their copy to fix issues [20:18] not sure though, asac would be a better person to ping about that [20:19] bug 457594 [20:19] Bug 457594 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/457594 is private [20:21] micahg, the stracktrace on this bug is not really useful [20:22] the other bug mentioned is a crash due to flash though [20:22] bug 452856 [20:22] Bug 452856 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/452856 is private [20:23] hi, i'm running ubuntu-x-swat on karmic and i'm running into http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24734 [20:23] Freedesktop bug 24734 in Drivers/DRI/i915 "Changes in Mesa prevent Gnome desktop (with Compiz) from starting normaly" [Critical,Resolved: fixed] [20:24] i wonder if the guys running the ppa know it is broken and needs update [20:27] tormod is following the bug [20:27] erf. [20:28] it is fixed in the PPA already, for Jaunty [20:29] x-updates for karmic will be fixed in a few hours [20:30] erf [20:33] * hyperair wonders if cross-compiling 32-bit mesa on 64-bit arches is a good idea -- as in have lib32mesa* rather than bundling everything in a huge ia32-libs package [20:35] micahg, those bugs seem to indicate xulrunner issues [20:35] the stacktraces are not really useful though [20:35] ok, I'll chat with asac about it then [20:35] I was just wondering if anyone knew of any major issue [20:35] *issues [20:36] I still have to go through all the bugs and see if there are any commonalities [21:55] wow, #xorg-devel is thick with ubu-hate. [22:04] bryce_: the cloud reference? nothing ubu-related except in the first comment, I think [22:05] tjaalton, there was also some stuff about gdm/upstart last night [22:08] seems like aaronp has issues with karmic :) [22:08] not being able to start gdm if you come from the recovery shell is a bug though [22:15] tjaalton, could you check that there's an appropriate bug filed about that against gdm? [22:16] I targeted+milestoned the gdm/upstart blinking issue [22:18] it is filed already [22:18] I'll check which one it was [22:18] might be worth milestoning too [22:19] triaged too.. the upstart job "checks kernel command-line for inhibitors" [22:19] and that's a bit silly [22:21] bug 436936 [22:21] Launchpad bug 436936 in kdebase-workspace "gdm upstart job checks /proc/cmdline for single user mode, won't dtrt on post-boot runlevel change" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/436936 [22:25] would karmic-updates be the correct milestone? [22:25] yep [22:27] done [22:28] excellent