| pjammer | install baby | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| pjammer | till i'm a man! | 00:00 |
| Penguino | :D | 00:00 |
| Penguino | Did you download the RC? | 00:00 |
| pjammer | ? | 00:01 |
| pjammer | that's a no jack | 00:01 |
| Penguino | Lol wut XD | 00:01 |
| pjammer | something called Janty jiving | 00:01 |
| pjammer | jaunty jackalope | 00:01 |
| pjammer | something like that. | 00:01 |
| pjammer | oh it is jaunty jackalope | 00:01 |
| pjammer | the dream Penguino if i may call you that, is to get compiz rockin! | 00:02 |
| pjammer | pIII and compiz sweet. | 00:02 |
| Penguino | :D | 00:03 |
| Penguino | Jaunty mate? | 00:03 |
| Penguino | But Karmic is coming in 3 days | 00:03 |
| pjammer | i have little patience | 00:03 |
| pjammer | Karma Kameleon it should have been called. | 00:04 |
| pjammer | missed opportunity | 00:04 |
| pjammer | imb | 00:04 |
| pjammer | 67% | 00:05 |
| zyxwvutsr | ah ha! | 00:05 |
| zyxwvutsr | Freenode has everything | 00:06 |
| pjammer | 80% | 00:08 |
| pjammer | 97%... anticipation | 00:10 |
| zyxwvutsr | hello. I'm trying to get xubuntu 9.04 installed on an old(ish) laptop, a Compaq Armada M300: 256MB RAM, 5GB HDD P3. It hangs at "Setting kernel variables (/etc/sysct1.d/10-network-security.conf) Segmentation fault" | 00:18 |
| zyxwvutsr | "i%p1%dG Segmentation fault" | 00:18 |
| zyxwvutsr | any ideas? | 00:18 |
| pjammer | lol, what a room, me too, but not for the seg fault.. haven't got there yet. and i'm on a presario | 00:19 |
| zyxwvutsr | helloooooooooooooooooooo........... | 00:24 |
| stea | hi, i have a friend's pentium 3 laptop with 128mb ram and 10gb hard drive - she needs to just connect to the net, check e-mail and load up old MS-Word documents and have the abilitiy to create new ones. will xubuntu be the best choice in this situation? | 00:25 |
| Penguino | Yes, but I suggest using OpenOffice instead of Abiword | 00:26 |
| Penguino | Well, I don't know Abiword | 00:27 |
| Penguino | I don't know if Abiword supports docx format | 00:27 |
| stea | Penguino - is abiword what comes bundled with xubuntu? | 00:27 |
| stea | instead of openoffice? | 00:27 |
| Penguino | Yes | 00:27 |
| stea | ah i see - | 00:33 |
| pjammer | zyxwvutsr: Seg faults are usually Kernal failures i think | 00:43 |
| pjammer | i fixed my problem... stupid xorg.conf not set right. | 00:43 |
| pjammer | i have to find the right driver for this. i just get a blank xorg.conf.... nothing fancy in it at all. | 00:44 |
| zyxwvutsr | yes, well, I wasn't expecting a kernel failure during installation | 00:46 |
| pjammer | sometimes it happens. maybe faulty download? | 00:47 |
| zyxwvutsr | probably not | 00:48 |
| zyxwvutsr | this is the third or fourth distro I've tried to get on this machine | 00:49 |
| pjammer | weird. | 00:49 |
| pjammer | Penguino: is there no WPA in this deal? | 00:49 |
| Penguino | Uh, no idea | 00:49 |
| pjammer | i get WEP but no wpa | 00:50 |
| pjammer | odd. | 00:50 |
| pjammer | ok now i go watch madmen. at least it works. | 00:50 |
| pjammer | before i go... how do i find out what real driver i should use? | 00:51 |
| pjammer | i'm using VESA to get it going | 00:51 |
| pjammer | it == computer | 00:51 |
| pjammer | ug... this trident driver is going to give me the poops | 01:16 |
| Guest5890 | bjr a tous | 02:00 |
| Bwyard | hello | 02:40 |
| Bwyard | i need some help | 02:42 |
| Bwyard | help please | 02:45 |
| Bwyard_ | hello anyone here | 02:47 |
| kris_ | Hi. Is there an lpia install cd for xubuntu. I want to put jaunty on my netbook. | 03:24 |
| kris_ | And kde/gnome are too bloated for a netbook, IMHO. | 03:25 |
| kromar | anyone else has the problem that videos and pictures are blue with 9.10? | 04:50 |
| _Techie_ | kromar i had the same issue with a persistant USB of 9.04 | 05:03 |
| _Techie_ | i believe it may have been related to the video card not detecting properly | 05:03 |
| _Techie_ | *sigh* why do i never notice them leaving | 05:04 |
| cdoublejj | oh | 07:33 |
| cdoublejj | my osunds and internet connections are greyed out how do i get it to let me use them | 07:34 |
| cdoublejj | does it have any thing to do with auto log in? | 07:34 |
| cdoublejj | wtf | 07:35 |
| cdoublejj | plugged in antother card now it works | 07:35 |
| cdoublejj | will fwcutter work on xubuntu | 07:49 |
| LinuxShop | Hello | 08:21 |
| LinuxShop | I want to support thunar from samba protocol | 08:22 |
| LinuxShop | which package I install? | 08:22 |
| LinuxShop | sorry for my bad English | 08:22 |
| TheSheep | !fusesmb | 08:23 |
| ubottu | fusesmb is a tool that allows easy access to shared folders (smb) on a network. Links with more info: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FuseSmb | 08:23 |
| cdoublejj | ooohh thanks | 08:25 |
| LinuxShop | thanks | 08:30 |
| rich__ | Thinking of upgrade 9.04 -> 9.10RC. My usual way is apt-get distupgrade, then change jaunty for karmic in /etc/apt/sources.list, then apt-get update, then apt-get dist-upgrade. Sound ok? | 10:08 |
| Sysi | that isn't method i've heard | 10:09 |
| rich__ | yeah, (k)ubuntu always tells you to use a GUI, but everytime (I've been a user since 2006?) it crashes horribly. I've found apt-get much safer! | 10:10 |
| Sysi | but it can be done differently with apt | 10:10 |
| rich__ | Can anyone suggest how to upgrade 9.04 to 9.10 from the commandline? | 10:11 |
| knome_work | !upgrade | rich__ | 10:13 |
| ubottu | rich__: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading | 10:13 |
| Sysi | sudo do-release-upgrade | 10:14 |
| rich__ | ubottu: these suggest a GUI: gksudo update-manager -d | 10:15 |
| ubottu | Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 10:15 |
| rich__ | genius! | 10:16 |
| knome_work | rich__: see Sysi's message | 10:16 |
| knome_work | so are people already waiting for xubuntu 9.10? | 10:18 |
| knome_work | or are you already running karmic? | 10:18 |
| nicklas_ | im waiting for kubuntu :-) | 10:18 |
| knome_work | nicklas_: why kubuntu? and why #xubuntu in that case? | 10:19 |
| nicklas_ | im actually a xubuntu user, but have discovered that its not for me anymore | 10:19 |
| nicklas_ | so im gonna go kubuntu :-P | 10:19 |
| rich__ | I've moved from kubuntu (3.x == brilliant && 4.x == awful) to xubuntu. I've been amazed at how good it is. Simple, fast, and surprisingly flexible. thought I'd miss konqueror (but that's gone anyway in kde 4) but thunar's got some good custom tricks | 10:19 |
| knome_work | nicklas_: okay. are you willing to tell me what lead you into that thinking and why you decided kubuntu is for you then`? | 10:20 |
| knome_work | rich__: nice to hear. want to tell me things that you like better in xubuntu? | 10:20 |
| knome_work | rich__: also, if there was something that didn't really work in kubuntu (apart from kde4) | 10:21 |
| nicklas_ | flexible, integrated | 10:21 |
| nicklas_ | xubuntu just lacks some major features i want | 10:21 |
| knome_work | nicklas_: can you be more verbose on those features? | 10:21 |
| nicklas_ | its fast and all, but i dont want it anymore :-P | 10:22 |
| knome_work | nicklas_: also, do you need flexibility in tweaking the looks, the configuration or what? | 10:22 |
| nicklas_ | menu editor, dependencies | 10:22 |
| knome_work | nicklas_: and what do you mean with integrated | 10:22 |
| cedron | hello | 10:22 |
| knome_work | nicklas_: yeah, it's a shame xfce 4.8 doesn't have a menu editor. which dependencies are you talking about? | 10:22 |
| knome_work | !hi | cedron | 10:22 |
| ubottu | cedron: Hi! Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines. Enjoy your stay! | 10:22 |
| nicklas_ | kde, integrated theme and wallpaper | 10:23 |
| knome_work | nicklas_: which xubuntu have you used? | 10:23 |
| cedron | hmmm | 10:23 |
| knome_work | cedron: ? :) | 10:23 |
| nicklas_ | 9.04 of course :-) | 10:23 |
| cedron | i switched to xubuntu from other distro because i own p3 | 10:24 |
| knome_work | nicklas_: okay. 9.10 will look more integrated than 9.04, though i have to admit there is some glitches | 10:24 |
| knome_work | cedron: okay. | 10:24 |
| cedron | is it better to use lxde? | 10:24 |
| knome_work | cedron: it might be a bit faster, but it isn't as featureful | 10:25 |
| cedron | a bit faster only? hmmm | 10:26 |
| knome_work | cedron: well, it depends. i haven't really tested lxde | 10:26 |
| cedron | they say it's ok to install lxde on top of xubuntu and remove xfce afterwards... | 10:28 |
| knome_work | cedron: it is. you can do that. | 10:28 |
| cdoublejj | is there any way to optimize xubuntu | 10:31 |
| cedron | okay, maybe it's worth testing for other than installing ubuntu distros with packaged lxde | 10:31 |
| cdoublejj | also is there a way to see if it hasn't found or install a generic driver for hardware componets like the gfx | 10:32 |
| knome_work | cdoublejj: what kind of optimization you mean? | 10:32 |
| cdoublejj | i have a laptop with an old s3 | 10:32 |
| cdoublejj | speed | 10:32 |
| knome_work | cdoublejj: applications -> system -> hardware drivers | 10:32 |
| cdoublejj | thats is | 10:32 |
| knome_work | cedron: yeah, testing is easy | 10:32 |
| cdoublejj | so if i have any probs it'll say driver not found | 10:33 |
| knome_work | cdoublejj: do you have problems? | 10:33 |
| rich__ | knome_work: disklikes of kde: too much bloat in name of "integration". I used to love Kmail, but now that's a whole suite of programs (kontact, korganiser...). dolphin sucks: hides the useful information. konqueror (FM) uses dolphin widget so no better. compositor slow. file progress thing quirky/unclear. | 10:33 |
| knome_work | rich__: okay. thanks :) | 10:33 |
| cdoublejj | no i just wondered | 10:33 |
| knome_work | cdoublejj: if you need any propietary drivers, jockey (hardware drivers) will tell you about it | 10:34 |
| cdoublejj | i have just done some wine optimization i'm gonna try out some games | 10:34 |
| knome_work | cdoublejj: xfce is kind of optimized already | 10:34 |
| cdoublejj | last time itried dark stone it ran horribly | 10:34 |
| cdoublejj | and it doesn't take squat to run it | 10:34 |
| knome_work | cdoublejj: i personally don't know about that much, but you could search the forums or google. | 10:34 |
| cdoublejj | so now maybe these wine tricks will help | 10:34 |
| knome_work | cdoublejj: have you checked wine appdb and the games status? | 10:34 |
| cdoublejj | look what i found | 10:34 |
| cdoublejj | http://www.overclock.net/linux-unix/504370-how-linux-gaming-explained.html#post6182623 | 10:35 |
| cdoublejj | i have on older laptop a toshiba 2805-s202 | 10:35 |
| cdoublejj | so naturaly i all i could really care about are games like starcraft or fallout | 10:35 |
| cdoublejj | but, i think it takes some grunt to run starcraft | 10:35 |
| cdoublejj | i think windows is faster than linux | 10:36 |
| knome_work | cdoublejj: yes, emulating takes recources | 10:36 |
| cdoublejj | xp would be about equal to ubuntu | 10:36 |
| cdoublejj | wine isn;t an emulator | 10:36 |
| knome_work | cdoublejj: if you would run windows+wine+starcraft, it would be slower than xubuntu+wine+starcraft | 10:36 |
| cdoublejj | thats what wine stands for | 10:36 |
| knome_work | cdoublejj: yes, but it *IS* an emulator | 10:36 |
| cdoublejj | true | 10:36 |
| cdoublejj | well they should stop claiming likewise then | 10:37 |
| knome_work | cdoublejj: lame == lame is not an mp3 encoder, but that's what it definitely is | 10:37 |
| cdoublejj | some times it is better to stick with windows | 10:37 |
| knome_work | cdoublejj: yes, it might be. | 10:37 |
| cedron | yeah sometimes | 10:37 |
| cdoublejj | hell i wonder if should have tried run win 98 with an xp compatibility layer | 10:38 |
| cedron | stick with infections as well XD | 10:38 |
| cdoublejj | thatd be fast | 10:38 |
| knome_work | if you want to play a lot and don't have a powerful machine, you maybe want windows | 10:38 |
| cdoublejj | it's jsut an older laptop | 10:38 |
| knome_work | yeah. | 10:38 |
| cdoublejj | i have about 5 toshiba 2800-2805 models | 10:38 |
| cdoublejj | i have real quad core for gaming | 10:38 |
| cdoublejj | and a bunch of other computers | 10:38 |
| knome_work | :) | 10:38 |
| knome_work | yup | 10:39 |
| cdoublejj | and real one with ubuntu too | 10:39 |
| cdoublejj | it has an amd 64 bit cpu | 10:39 |
| knome_work | i only have machines running xubuntu | 10:39 |
| cdoublejj | i like windows too | 10:39 |
| cdoublejj | how ever i have been getting a growing hatred of macs | 10:39 |
| knome_work | hmm. | 10:39 |
| cdoublejj | i have used a mac laptop before and liked it | 10:39 |
| cdoublejj | it's their adds on that make me mad | 10:40 |
| cdoublejj | some chick gives mac her box of stuff | 10:40 |
| knome_work | there is good things in mac | 10:40 |
| cdoublejj | aftershe switched from windows | 10:40 |
| knome_work | but also bad things, and i don't really care about apple and their actions | 10:40 |
| cdoublejj | it sohuld have show mac throwing stuff out of the box casue i know for a fact mac can not run .exe | 10:40 |
| knome_work | i also got box from a chic | 10:41 |
| knome_work | oh, wait (!) | 10:41 |
| knome_work | ;) | 10:41 |
| cdoublejj | aaaw | 10:41 |
| cdoublejj | did you get dumped ? | 10:41 |
| knome_work | no, i'm married to her :P | 10:41 |
| cdoublejj | haha nice! | 10:41 |
| cdoublejj | i wish i had a women by my side | 10:42 |
| knome_work | maybe you will someday :) | 10:42 |
| cedron | oh.. what sober.. :-D | 10:42 |
| cdoublejj | gtk pod is a pain in the but, | 10:42 |
| cdoublejj | becasue it won't let you browse network shared files | 10:43 |
| knome_work | cdoublejj: hmm. | 10:43 |
| cdoublejj | i keep all my files on my windows machine cause i have the most room on it. | 10:43 |
| knome_work | cdoublejj: that's why you should use rockbox on your ipod ;) | 10:43 |
| cdoublejj | i'v heard ofthat and ipod linux | 10:44 |
| knome_work | i have installed rockbox on one older ipod | 10:44 |
| cdoublejj | just thoguht it would be cool to sync music to the pod with linux | 10:44 |
| cdoublejj | cept e mum complains it's to slow | 10:44 |
| knome_work | some other apps than gtkpod can do that | 10:44 |
| cdoublejj | might have to let her keep my nice laptop | 10:44 |
| knome_work | your mum?! | 10:44 |
| cdoublejj | and get mea real laptop | 10:44 |
| cdoublejj | yeah i got an ubuntu power laptop liek the one i've been talking about | 10:45 |
| cdoublejj | might run xubuntu on it to to speed it up | 10:45 |
| knome_work | mmh | 10:45 |
| sally2 | hi friends | 10:47 |
| knome_work | !hi | sally2 | 10:47 |
| ubottu | sally2: Hi! Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines. Enjoy your stay! | 10:47 |
| cdoublejj | oohhh didn't think about having to find wifi drivers for windows | 10:47 |
| cdoublejj | all i ahve to do is run the ol b43 fwcutter in buntu | 10:47 |
| knome_work | cdoublejj: hehe ;) ubuntu saves you from lot of trouble | 10:47 |
| cdoublejj | yes it does | 10:47 |
| cdoublejj | and no anti virus either | 10:47 |
| sally2 | total newbie here....im trying to install Carrier (funpidgin) on ubuntu but i dont know how to install a tar.gz....ive only used the add/remove package manager | 10:47 |
| sally2 | i mean xubuntu* | 10:48 |
| cdoublejj | i thought tar gz wasl ikea zip and you have to open it | 10:48 |
| sally2 | i extracted the tar.gz file... | 10:48 |
| cdoublejj | oh | 10:48 |
| cdoublejj | well thats all i can offer | 10:48 |
| sally2 | im not sure what to do next to actually install the program | 10:48 |
| knome_work | sally2: yeah, it's a source package? | 10:48 |
| knome_work | sally2: you need to open terminal | 10:48 |
| knome_work | sally2: then browse to the directory you unpackaged the stuff | 10:49 |
| knome_work | sally2: then *usually*: ./configure | 10:49 |
| cdoublejj | now that i think of it linux has come a long ways since a few years ago | 10:49 |
| knome_work | sally2: after that, make, which builds the code | 10:49 |
| sally2 | my mistake its actually a tar.bz2 file | 10:49 |
| cdoublejj | you'd still be hard pressed to run dial up on it thogh like people pc or netzero | 10:49 |
| knome_work | sally2: and after that 'sudo make install', which installs the file in your system | 10:49 |
| knome_work | sally2: doesn't matter. | 10:49 |
| knome_work | sally2: i suppose it's a source packge. bz2/gz are just compression methods | 10:50 |
| sally2 | im surprised its this difficult to install a program that isnt in the package manager | 10:50 |
| knome_work | !source | 10:50 |
| ubottu | You can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html | 10:50 |
| knome_work | sally2: you might find a ubuntu package (.deb) for the app | 10:50 |
| knome_work | !build | 10:50 |
| ubottu | Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first) | 10:50 |
| knome_work | sally2: see the last link | 10:50 |
| sally2 | ok | 10:50 |
| cdoublejj | yeah sally2 what you have is the code for the program not the installer wich how it is sometimes | 10:51 |
| sally2 | you would think Carrier would have instal instructions or something | 10:51 |
| cdoublejj | boy i hope fallout 1 or 2 runs well after this | 10:51 |
| sally2 | they are sort of popular | 10:51 |
| sally2 | i get the feeling people are just supposed to know how to do it | 10:51 |
| knome_work | sally2: ubuntu of course tries to include anything our users might want to use in the repositories. but it takes work to include those and keep them up to date | 10:51 |
| sally2 | ive never used terminal...not sure if i know how to browse to the correct file ! haha | 10:52 |
| knome_work | sally2: there's a bug filed which says carrier should be packaged for ubuntu | 10:52 |
| sally2 | thats cool....Carrier is way better than pidigin | 10:52 |
| knome_work | sally2: i use bitlbee for instant messaging. | 10:53 |
| knome_work | sally2: if you unpackaded the files in a directory in your Desktop, then: cd ~/Desktop/dir_in_desktop | 10:54 |
| sally2 | i need something that can manage my AIM friends and IRC friends together with tabs...im also looking for a program that has web cam support | 10:54 |
| knome_work | sally2: you need to install the package build-essential to be able to build stuff | 10:54 |
| sally2 | i thought i wasnt gonna have to use terminal!! | 10:55 |
| knome_work | yes. | 10:55 |
| knome_work | but you need the build-essential pkg | 10:55 |
| sally2 | this is 2009! | 10:55 |
| knome_work | sally2: you are trying to install software from sources | 10:56 |
| knome_work | sally2: it's easier than it could be. | 10:56 |
| cdoublejj | wow if did this right i will ahve latest version of wine | 10:56 |
| sally2 | i just clicked that last link about compiling software hopefully thatll do the trick | 10:56 |
| knome_work | cdoublejj: :) | 10:56 |
| cdoublejj | and it looks liek the fallout has gone up on compatibility | 10:56 |
| knome_work | sally2: yeah, that should include any information you need | 10:56 |
| cdoublejj | wich means it runs better | 10:56 |
| knome_work | cdoublejj: good to hear. :) | 10:56 |
| cdoublejj | thnk you to killap for releasing those patches | 10:57 |
| sally2 | do you think xubuntu runs better than gOS on a low end laptop? | 10:57 |
| cdoublejj | he hex edited fallout.exe | 10:57 |
| cdoublejj | gOS?? | 10:57 |
| rich__ | knome_work: and Sysi: sudo do-release-upgrade says "No new release found" | 10:57 |
| sally2 | yeah gos....Green OS....based on linux....it has wine preinstalled....walmart was selling pc's with gOS on em for 200 bucks | 10:58 |
| knome_work | rich__: sudo do-release-upgrade -d | 10:58 |
| knome_work | rich__: 9.10 is released the day after tomorrow, so it's still developmet | 10:58 |
| knome_work | +n | 10:58 |
| knome_work | sally2: i don't know gOS. if it's a thin client OS, it's not really comparable | 10:58 |
| sally2 | i was wondering how i might go about dual booting xubuntu and gos | 10:59 |
| knome_work | sally2: i don't know if that would be very useful | 10:59 |
| rich__ | knome_work: ooh, that's working! | 10:59 |
| knome_work | sally2: from what i looked at gOS, i suppose xubuntu would be faster | 10:59 |
| knome_work | rich__: of course, i'm batman | 10:59 |
| knome_work | oops, i spoiled myself ;P | 11:00 |
| gRnt | Hi all I have a question I am new to xubuntu (and love it) I am currently using terminal to try and install rtorrent and am getting the following error http://paste.ubuntu.com/302686/ (PS I don't know why its complaing about ssl I have it installed) however I think I need to edit pkg? | 11:00 |
| gRnt | I'm still rather new and have been looking at google but its been to no avail. | 11:01 |
| sally2 | just get Ktorrent from the package manager | 11:01 |
| knome_work | gRnt: when you compile stuff, you need to have the -dev packages. | 11:01 |
| knome_work | sally2: it would install a *lot* of dependencies in xubuntu | 11:01 |
| gRnt | knome, can I simply sudo apt-get install pkg-dev ? | 11:01 |
| knome_work | gRnt: if you only need a simple torrent client, you can use transmission | 11:01 |
| sally2 | really?? thats what i did but i still havent even ued it on this computer.... | 11:02 |
| knome_work | gRnt: no, i mean openssl-dev | 11:02 |
| sally2 | i guess im probably wasting some space | 11:02 |
| knome_work | sally2: yup, probably | 11:02 |
| knome_work | sally2: you should use gtk (or gnome) apps with xubuntu, if possible to avoid masses of dependencies | 11:02 |
| gRnt | Well this is more of a learning experience than anything knome_work I also like the look of the wtorrent webui, I need to learn some how as I would like to move to a server install at some point, so far so good its just google sometimes fails me. | 11:02 |
| knome_work | okay | 11:02 |
| knome_work | !build | gRnt | 11:02 |
| ubottu | gRnt: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first) | 11:02 |
| knome_work | gRnt: have you read that package? | 11:03 |
| gRnt | no I shall go there now thankyou | 11:03 |
| knome_work | no problem | 11:03 |
| gRnt | E: Couldn't find package openssl-dev | 11:03 |
| gRnt | just FYI | 11:03 |
| cdoublejj | some stuff runs faster in wine that buntu | 11:03 |
| cdoublejj | like kega emulator runs faster in wine than a native buntu sega emulator | 11:04 |
| sally2 | i have another question....i had ubuntu originally....jaunty....and then i ran some command i read online and now when i boot up the laptop i have the option of loading gnome or xfce windows manager....i always click xfce....and it runs pretty well....but am i getting the real xubuntu experience? | 11:04 |
| knome_work | gRnt: it might be openssl3-dev or something like that. search for it :) | 11:05 |
| sally2 | or would it run faster if i got an actual xubuntu cd and installed it from that | 11:05 |
| knome_work | sally2: no, it doesn't affec that much. | 11:06 |
| knome_work | sally2: if you want to remove all the ubuntu (as in ubnutu gnome) stuff, follow this: | 11:06 |
| knome_work | !purexfce | sally2 | 11:06 |
| ubottu | sally2: If you want to remove all !KDE and !Gnome packages and have a default !Xubuntu system follow the instructions here « http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce » | 11:06 |
| sally2 | i should rpobably do that becuase im on a real low end laptop and ubuntu never ran too smoothly on this | 11:07 |
| sally2 | you sure are helpful knome...do you work for ubuntu? | 11:07 |
| knome_work | sally2: yeah, but as i said, it doesn't affect that much. | 11:07 |
| knome_work | sally2: no, i'm not paid, but i am a volunteer and work as the xubuntu marketing lead, currently | 11:08 |
| sally2 | how many hours do you volunteer weekly would you say? | 11:08 |
| knome_work | sally2: depends on the week, but up to 40 hours | 11:08 |
| knome_work | sally2: average maybe 7-10 hours per week | 11:09 |
| sally2 | thats pretty cool...is your career computer oriented? | 11:09 |
| knome_work | sally2: but of course it's not only just doing that. i might be at irc and give user support, like now, whenever somebody needs it | 11:10 |
| knome_work | sally2: i'm studying social service stuff, but i have an IT company | 11:10 |
| sally2 | where you ever a windows user? | 11:11 |
| knome_work | yeah, something like until 5 years ago | 11:11 |
| knome_work | i also have been a DOS user ;) | 11:12 |
| sally2 | im 23....been using windows since i was 12....we had macs before that when i was a kid | 11:12 |
| sally2 | some time in 2008 i started experimenting with ubuntu | 11:12 |
| knome_work | i'm 23 also, i've been using computer since i was 5 | 11:12 |
| sally2 | my mom was a computer programmer in the 60s....back when an ibm computer was a whole building | 11:13 |
| knome_work | :] | 11:13 |
| sally2 | so i had computers from the day i was born | 11:13 |
| knome_work | yeah | 11:13 |
| sally2 | she was all about macs though | 11:13 |
| knome_work | hehe, well back then it made a difference whether you had mac or pc | 11:13 |
| knome_work | now the hardware is basically the same | 11:13 |
| sally2 | what country are you in> | 11:14 |
| sally2 | ? | 11:14 |
| knome_work | finland | 11:14 |
| sally2 | hey thats pretty cool....im actually a guy i just thought id get more help if i came in here pretending to be a girl | 11:14 |
| === sally2 is now known as nick | ||
| knome_work | haha :) | 11:15 |
| knome_work | doesn't really matter | 11:15 |
| nick | this is my real name | 11:15 |
| nick | oh someone else already registered the nick "nick" | 11:15 |
| === nick is now known as Guest84845 | ||
| cdoublejj | how do you do this in xubuntu | 11:15 |
| cdoublejj | http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/hide-removable-drive-icons-from-your-ubuntu-desktop/ | 11:15 |
| === Guest84845 is now known as nick2009 | ||
| nick2009 | so how come youre so into xubuntu over ubuntu? the only reason i came to xubuntu is cause i have weak computers | 11:16 |
| cdoublejj | same here | 11:16 |
| knome_work | nick2009: right-click on desktop and select desktop properties/settings or something | 11:16 |
| cdoublejj | using on a weak laptop | 11:16 |
| === nick2009 is now known as nick2012 | ||
| knome_work | nick2009: i was first using ubuntu, but gnome was so bloated and kept breaking so i switched to xubuntu | 11:17 |
| nick2012 | i hate bloated software | 11:17 |
| cdoublejj | i like gnome | 11:17 |
| knome_work | i have a good enough pc, but i still like xubuntu | 11:17 |
| cdoublejj | is not having gnome why xubuntu is faster? | 11:17 |
| knome_work | xfce is more configurable | 11:17 |
| nick2012 | yeah dude thats why its faster | 11:17 |
| knome_work | and you can actually be productive | 11:17 |
| nick2012 | its that compiz program in ubuntu | 11:17 |
| knome_work | cdoublejj: that's the biggest reason | 11:18 |
| knome_work | cdoublejj: there is also some other app choices that make xubuntu faster | 11:18 |
| cdoublejj | like flux box? | 11:18 |
| cdoublejj | oh wiat would flux box make xubuntu faster? | 11:18 |
| nick2012 | i tell people ubuntu is better for higher end computers....its a modern os like vista....good if you have over 4gigs of memory | 11:18 |
| nick2012 | xubuntu is fast but if thats all you care about why dont you use Damn Small Linux knome_work | 11:19 |
| knome_work | cdoublejj: yes, but it has way less features. | 11:20 |
| knome_work | nick2012: the "fastness" doesn't really make so much difference with a fast pc | 11:20 |
| cdoublejj | like? | 11:20 |
| knome_work | cdoublejj: fluxbox doesn't have panels by default, you need to use a paneling software | 11:21 |
| nick2012 | whats the best program to use for web chat? | 11:21 |
| cdoublejj | so then you might as well keep what ya have then | 11:21 |
| nick2012 | ive read amsn can do web chat | 11:21 |
| knome_work | nick2012: hmm? | 11:21 |
| knome_work | right.. i don't really know | 11:21 |
| knome_work | i use webchat with whatever browser i have | 11:21 |
| knome_work | i usually irc with irssi which i run on a server | 11:21 |
| knome_work | == knome | 11:21 |
| knome_work | but i can't access that now | 11:22 |
| nick2012 | can you do web chat over irc? | 11:22 |
| gRnt | knome_work, seems I needed two dev packages, guess I might have to write them down if I want to move to a server install though haha....configure and make done! on we go | 11:22 |
| nick2012 | my girlfriend wants to have web chats with her friends on yahoo and msn | 11:22 |
| knome_work | gRnt: great to hear:) good luck | 11:22 |
| knome_work | nick2012: right, you mean instant messaging | 11:22 |
| knome_work | nick2012: i think pidgin is quite good for that, if you need a gui | 11:22 |
| nick2012 | oh yeah not web chat i m ean video chat | 11:23 |
| nick2012 | i dont know why i said that | 11:23 |
| knome_work | ahh, video chat | 11:23 |
| knome_work | i think amsn is the only one supporting video chat on linux atm | 11:23 |
| nick2012 | what if i install yahoo messenger under wine? | 11:23 |
| nick2012 | will its video chat work? | 11:23 |
| knome_work | nick2012: i suppose that would work as well | 11:23 |
| knome_work | i need to go now | 11:23 |
| nick2012 | it wouldntneed drivers or something installed? | 11:23 |
| knome_work | see you later! | 11:23 |
| nick2012 | ok man thanks for the help | 11:24 |
| nick2012 | i got like 50 questions answered out of that guy | 11:24 |
| nick2012 | pretty cool | 11:24 |
| rich__ | max resolution dropped to 1280x1024 (was 1600x1200) since upgrade to 9.10 RC1. Any ideas? | 13:06 |
| === rr72 is now known as rr73 | ||
| rich__ | max resolution dropped to 1280x1024 (was 1600x1200) since upgrade to 9.10 RC1. Any ideas? | 14:44 |
| likemindead | Try "dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg" rich__ | 14:51 |
| likemindead | Oh, and add a sudo to that. ;-) | 14:52 |
| rich__ | likeminded: did nothing. I'll restart and see if it just magically fixed it... | 14:58 |
| likemindead | Yes, you have to reboot. | 14:59 |
| likemindead | Or restart X, anyhow. | 14:59 |
| === cody-somerville_ is now known as cody-somerville | ||
| goober | good morning (or whatever it is where you are) - I'm having some trouble with a new Xubuntu installation and would like some help, please... | 15:21 |
| goober | the installation goes off with no trouble, but as soon as I run the updates, the next bootup ends with a blank screen and a cursor - no icons, no toolbars, no background... | 15:23 |
| goober | I had installed Xubuntu on this same machine before, and it updated with no problems, but I was reinstalling everything so that I could give the computer away | 15:23 |
| goober | any ideas? Thanks | 15:24 |
| goober | also, I'm pretty mucha noob | 15:24 |
| TheSheep | goober: press alt+f2 and type 'xfce4-panel' | 15:25 |
| juggle | Hi ... i'm a newbie in c++ ...can the 'for' loop be used with string in c++?,if yes...What's the c++ version of the following python loop http://dpaste.com/112676/ | 15:25 |
| goober | writing this down - I'm typing from a live CD on same machine because I couldn't boot | 15:26 |
| goober | thanks, TheSheep - what next? | 15:27 |
| TheSheep | juggle: maybe ask on a c++ channel? | 15:28 |
| juggle | TheSheep,ok..i have resolved the problem ..thx | 15:31 |
| goober | TheSheep: were there any steps to follow, or will that command either bring up a desktop or get me to an obvious place to resolve it? | 15:35 |
| goober | I'll have to reboot to try it | 15:36 |
| goober | looks like you stepped away. I'll reboot and see what that command get me - thanks, TheSheep | 15:42 |
| rich__ | likeminded: hmm, just the same... | 15:48 |
| goober | TheSheep: back at my installed desktop, thanks! Is "xfce4-panel" something other than the default desktop environment? I don't seem able to change the wallpaper, etc. If not, what command will get me back to the default so I can see if that works now? thanks | 16:09 |
| nicklas_ | soon time | 18:20 |
| === danopia` is now known as danopia | ||
| charlie-tca | Anyone testing the release images, new images are available now for xubuntu | 18:48 |
| nicklas_ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XUTBJIV93w | 19:43 |
| mandrew | hello ppl does xubuntu 9.10 have the same hardware suport as ubuntu 9.10? | 19:47 |
| nicklas_ | you mean 9.04 ? | 19:48 |
| nicklas_ | forget it | 19:48 |
| nicklas_ | i read wrong | 19:48 |
| mandrew | hehe np | 19:49 |
| Sysi | yes | 19:49 |
| nicklas_ | what kind of hardware you mean? | 19:49 |
| mandrew | w-lan | 19:49 |
| nicklas_ | it uses the same network manager right? | 19:49 |
| mandrew | i have 2 netbooks and i tried xubuntu and now ubuntu but i cant get the w-an to work | 19:49 |
| mandrew | w-lan* | 19:50 |
| mandrew | i have upgraded the beta on one netbook and the w-lan just works out of the box | 19:50 |
| mandrew | the ubuntu 9.10 beta | 19:50 |
| nicklas_ | mandrew: they have probably updated it so it works in 9.10 | 19:51 |
| mandrew | upgarded from beta 4 | 19:51 |
| nicklas_ | mandrew: so then all is good right? | 19:51 |
| mandrew | no now on the netbook i installed it on now | 19:51 |
| mandrew | it just dont work | 19:51 |
| mandrew | cant even see the w-lan card :( | 19:52 |
| nicklas_ | that might now be because of ubuntu, the hardware may be different | 19:52 |
| mandrew | true | 19:52 |
| mandrew | i love how trhe new xubuntu looks | 19:56 |
| mandrew | the* | 19:56 |
| === rr73 is now known as rrmm | ||
| mandrew | anyone thats know anything about compaq mini 730e? | 19:59 |
| rrmm | mandrew~ I had something similiar, buntu would automaticly see my phone as a modem but then it stopped all of a sudden, thought it was an upgrade but windows doesn't see it either | 20:04 |
| mandrew | ok | 20:04 |
| rrmm | ok not similiar at really | 20:04 |
| rrmm | nvm | 20:04 |
| mandrew | i just want this crap machine to work lol | 20:04 |
| rrmm | guess that hardware may be faulty sometimes? | 20:05 |
| mandrew | dont know | 20:05 |
| mandrew | who do i list the hardware in the terminal? | 20:05 |
| mandrew | im a noob at ubuntu | 20:05 |
| rrmm | how you mean? | 20:05 |
| rrmm | dmesg | 20:06 |
| rrmm | lspci | 20:06 |
| rrmm | lshw | 20:06 |
| rrmm | !paste | 20:06 |
| ubottu | For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com (or !pastebinit for CLI) | For pasting !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin Please give us the URLs for your posts! | 20:06 |
| rrmm | Penguino~ LOVE the name | 20:07 |
| mandrew | rrmm how do i find the w-lan in the terminal? | 20:11 |
| Penguino | rrmm: Heh, thanks :D | 20:12 |
| rrmm | mine waws found in lshe | 20:14 |
| mandrew | ok | 20:14 |
| mandrew | tnx | 20:14 |
| rrmm | i mean lshw | 20:15 |
| knome | hmm | 20:15 |
| mandrew | it could be a broadcom or a msi | 20:18 |
| rrmm | broadcom | 20:18 |
| mandrew | vendor marvell technology group Ltd | 20:18 |
| rrmm | msi is a maker of books I think | 20:18 |
| mandrew | ok | 20:18 |
| rrmm | books as in computers rofl | 20:19 |
| mandrew | :P | 20:19 |
| rrmm | wait msi is m/b producer | 20:19 |
| rrmm | ok off to go visit grandma, good luck w/ your networks | 20:19 |
| mandrew | m/b? | 20:19 |
| rrmm | mainboard, motherboard | 20:19 |
| mandrew | tnx | 20:19 |
| mandrew | ok tnx | 20:19 |
| rrmm | np | 20:19 |
| seek3r | hello. quick question. Anybody know the system requirements for xubuntu. specifically, what I really wanna know is is there a version i can run on a system with only 64 megs of ram? | 21:16 |
| charlie-tca | 64 MB is not going to work | 21:16 |
| Sysi | lubuntu might work | 21:16 |
| charlie-tca | The GUI won't run | 21:16 |
| Sysi | or what it was | 21:16 |
| seek3r | I thought as much. i was kind of hoping an earlier version, with the alternate installer might do it. | 21:17 |
| Sysi | xubuntu don't work very propably | 21:17 |
| seek3r | lubuntu? whats that/ | 21:17 |
| Sysi | with lxde | 21:17 |
| Sysi | very lightweight but pretty good | 21:17 |
| charlie-tca | The earliest version was 6.06, but it needed 128MB, as far as I recall | 21:17 |
| seek3r | hmmmmmm. | 21:17 |
| Sysi | or crungchbang | 21:17 |
| charlie-tca | Puppy linux would work | 21:17 |
| charlie-tca | crunchbang should | 21:18 |
| Sysi | merely lubuntu | 21:18 |
| seek3r | puppy? think I could squeeze a gui into that as well? | 21:18 |
| charlie-tca | possible | 21:18 |
| seek3r | setting up old system for kids, they wouldnt do well with CLI only. | 21:18 |
| Sysi | crunchbang propably would do | 21:19 |
| charlie-tca | They were playing with 64MB with a gui, I think | 21:19 |
| seek3r | well, yeah, i did win98 and win95 with that, but was wanting linux to avoid all the malware issues that are sure to pop up. | 21:20 |
| seek3r | (also dont have a legal install for those either) | 21:20 |
| Sysi | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu | 21:20 |
| Sysi | that's pretty good and lightweight | 21:21 |
| charlie-tca | take a look at lubuntu | 21:21 |
| Sysi | i had it for a while | 21:21 |
| charlie-tca | and they will have some other ideas, too | 21:21 |
| seek3r | I am looking at it now.. | 21:22 |
| seek3r | with 64 megs, it will have to be featherweight. :) | 21:23 |
| Sysi | it flew with 512 :P | 21:23 |
| seek3r | I wish I had that for this, but all i got on hand that will fit the machine is a single 64meg stick :( | 21:26 |
| seek3r | wasnt trying to spend any on this project. tryin to clean out my junk bins, ya know. :) | 21:26 |
| Sysi | that should work, it isn't lot added to openbox | 21:27 |
| Sysi | ans it runs on very little | 21:27 |
| seek3r | I guess I am gonna try lxde on a debian core. Think I will stick it in a virtual machine with 64 megs first, see what happens. | 21:30 |
| Sysi | if i remember right, my friens have openbox with 32meg | 21:31 |
| Sysi | works pretty well | 21:31 |
| seek3r | really? | 21:34 |
| Sysi | it is rough | 21:35 |
| Sysi | but it should run | 21:35 |
| Sysi | apps just are different.. | 21:35 |
| seek3r | yeah, I expect it to be rough, at the very least. | 21:37 |
| Bwyard | hello | 21:37 |
| Bwyard | can someone help me | 21:37 |
| Sysi | !hi | 21:38 |
| ubottu | Hi! Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines. Enjoy your stay! | 21:38 |
| charlie-tca | !help | 21:38 |
| ubottu | Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) | 21:38 |
| Bwyard | well somehow i managd to turn off my wireless in xubuntu | 21:38 |
| Bwyard | and well im not good enough with terminals to get it working | 21:39 |
| Bwyard | i installed something call wicd | 21:39 |
| Bwyard | then i uninstalled it and now i network manager doesnt start up any more | 21:39 |
| Bwyard | so basically i need to know how to setup wireless in the terminal | 21:41 |
| charlie-tca | !wireless | 21:42 |
| ubottu | Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs | 21:42 |
| charlie-tca | I don't know enough myself, but that might help you | 21:42 |
| Bwyard | well i tried using the manuals that come with xubuntu but one of the command sis missing i think | 21:43 |
| knome | Bwyard, alt+f2 -> nm-applet | 21:43 |
| Bwyard | so thats all i have to do | 21:43 |
| Bwyard | thank you i will try it right now | 21:43 |
| knome | Bwyard, that will start up network manager, if it's installed | 21:43 |
| * charlie-tca waves at knome | 21:44 | |
| knome | hello charlie-tca :) | 21:44 |
| knome | o/ | 21:44 |
| charlie-tca | testing again | 21:44 |
| * charlie-tca is not sure him quitting is a good sign ... | 21:45 | |
| Sysi | maybe he don't have multitasking | 21:45 |
| Sysi | that exist surprisingly often.. | 21:46 |
| charlie-tca | it's true. I haven't had a chance to test karmic on the PII yet. | 21:47 |
| knome | charlie-tca, i've been running karmic on my production machine since beta | 21:47 |
| charlie-tca | It has issues with tasking in general sometimes | 21:47 |
| charlie-tca | I ran it since alpha2 | 21:48 |
| knome | yeah, you're mad ;) | 21:48 |
| charlie-tca | but then again, I had to reinstall twice | 21:48 |
| charlie-tca | I think I called it "fun" | 21:48 |
| knome | i'm still on an installation of 6.06 (iirc) with all upgrades to karmic | 21:48 |
| charlie-tca | eeek! | 21:48 |
| knome | ;) | 21:48 |
| charlie-tca | I have my 6.06 upgraded to 8.04 server here. I upgraded it direct, and will upgrade to 10.04 next | 21:49 |
| knome | charlie-tca, that eek was quite mouseish :) | 21:49 |
| charlie-tca | then I will probably have to clean it up with a fresh install | 21:50 |
| charlie-tca | Yeah, it's just a little scary to think about all those upgrades. | 21:50 |
| knome | i've broken my system badly in one upgrade and a few times with something else than upgrades | 21:50 |
| knome | but been able to fix it | 21:50 |
| charlie-tca | I broke karmic bad, enough to reinstall it on this machine. At least I had /home backed up | 21:51 |
| charlie-tca | Teach me to put alpha versions on the machine I depend on all the time | 21:52 |
| knome | :) | 21:53 |
| charlie-tca | Oh, no it didn't. I had to reinstall twice because i broke it again | 21:53 |
| knome | hehe | 21:53 |
| Sysi | i started from beta | 21:54 |
| Sysi | still works \o/ | 21:54 |
| charlie-tca | beta is much safer. | 21:54 |
| Sysi | i need that netbook for schoolwork | 21:55 |
| charlie-tca | I would NOT recommend starting from any alpha version if you really need the machine | 21:55 |
| charlie-tca | OTOH, I do have 4 systems here. | 21:55 |
| knome | charlie-tca, OTOH, shops are usually open 7 days a week ;) | 21:55 |
| Sysi | i have 4 too :) | 21:56 |
| charlie-tca | True, also | 21:56 |
| charlie-tca | I just keep things backed up on another system | 21:56 |
| charlie-tca | exept that airplane ticket information | 21:56 |
| knome | hehehe | 21:56 |
| Sysi | but when i uodate this i need external drive | 21:56 |
| Bwyard | it was nm -applet right? | 21:57 |
| Sysi | nm-applet | 21:57 |
| Bwyard | well that didnt work | 21:57 |
| Sysi | with space? | 21:57 |
| Sysi | it won't | 21:57 |
| Bwyard | with and without | 21:58 |
| charlie-tca | Probably got uninstalled when wicd installed | 21:59 |
| Bwyard | what was the site that i was given with the documentation on wireless | 21:59 |
| charlie-tca | !wireless | 21:59 |
| ubottu | Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs | 21:59 |
| Bwyard | well how do i reinstall it | 21:59 |
| Bwyard | ok i think i found the install file | 22:02 |
| Bwyard | is this it | 22:02 |
| Bwyard | http://projects.gnome.org/NetworkManager/ | 22:02 |
| charlie-tca | sudo apt-get network-manager | 22:03 |
| Bwyard | only problem with that is i dont have interent | 22:03 |
| charlie-tca | sudo apt-get network-manager-gnome | 22:03 |
| Bwyard | b/c i dont have an internet manager | 22:03 |
| Bwyard | my internet doesnt work in xubuntu once i uninstalled wice | 22:03 |
| Bwyard | only in vista | 22:03 |
| Bwyard | which is what im using right now | 22:04 |
| Bwyard | well imma gonna try this | 22:04 |
| Bwyard | if it doesnt work ill be back | 22:04 |
| Bwyard | thank you btw | 22:04 |
| charlie-tca | I don't know if the NetworkManager from gnome.org will include both files | 22:04 |
| charlie-tca | try it | 22:05 |
| Bwyard | ok ill try it | 22:05 |
| Bwyard | wait what do u mena two files | 22:05 |
| Bwyard | *mean | 22:05 |
| charlie-tca | You need network-manager and network-manager-gnome | 22:05 |
| Bwyard | oh ok well i will see what happens | 22:05 |
| ochosi | hi everyone. i'm using xfce4.6.1 with a vertical panel and i'm wondering whether there's a way to remove the 5px empty border around my orage-clock. anyone here who knows something about this? here's a screenshot to illustrate what i'm talking about: http://img2.imageshack.us/img2/7483/oragepanel.png | 22:13 |
| charlie-tca | If that is the orage clock, right click and unclick "show frame" ? | 22:15 |
| Bwyard | it didnt work but thats because i dont have network-tools installed | 22:18 |
| Bwyard | it popped up with an error saying it wanst installed when i tried to install network manager | 22:18 |
| charlie-tca | ochosi: sorry, right-click, left-click properties, unclick "show frame" ? | 22:19 |
| charlie-tca | Bwyard: no more ideas | 22:20 |
| ochosi | charlie-tca, unfortunately not... the funny thing is that neither the frame nor the "set width" option makes any difference | 22:21 |
| charlie-tca | weird! | 22:21 |
| Bwyard | well thanks anyways | 22:22 |
| charlie-tca | make sure set width has a check mark. I screwed that up once. | 22:22 |
| charlie-tca | also, if the font is too big, it ignores me | 22:22 |
| ochosi | hm, well, yes, the set width checkbox is checked. font size also doesn't seem to make a difference... | 22:23 |
| charlie-tca | Ask in #xfce? | 22:24 |
| mandrew | i would like to thank all good people here who helped me today | 22:30 |
| knome | mandrew, for all the people; no problem. we hope you enjoy xubuntu | 22:31 |
| mandrew | the new xubuntu 9.10 rc is realy nice looking | 22:32 |
| knome | mandrew, good to hear | 22:32 |
| mandrew | to bad i have a broadcom w-lan card | 22:32 |
| mandrew | i got help to set it up but under ubuntu 9.10 rc and now its working so i have to stick with the ubuntu cuz i dont think i can set it up again on my own | 22:35 |
| knome | mandrew, you can install the package xubuntu-desktop and then use xfce | 22:37 |
| mandrew | it would be nice it canonical could get broadcom w-lan cards set up to work out of the box but hey i got a OS for free thats a miracle | 22:37 |
| mandrew | ok how do i do that? | 22:37 |
| knome | go to synaptic and select+install 'xubuntu-desktop' | 22:38 |
| knome | or run 'sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop' from terminal | 22:38 |
| mandrew | is it that easy? | 22:38 |
| knome | then when you get to the login screen, select xfce session instead of gnome session | 22:38 |
| knome | yes, it is | 22:38 |
| mandrew | it brings tears to my eyes | 22:38 |
| mandrew | man do i love this OS | 22:39 |
| mandrew | i dont understand why no one told me about this before if i only had known i would never spent all these years with windows | 22:40 |
| knome | linux has come a long way in the last years | 22:41 |
| mandrew | i have no log in window how do a change that? | 22:43 |
| charlie-tca | Hit enter | 22:44 |
| charlie-tca | It'll ask for passwors | 22:44 |
| mandrew | when? | 22:44 |
| mandrew | on boot up? | 22:44 |
| charlie-tca | It should be a screen with a name on it | 22:44 |
| knome | charlie-tca, i think he means he has autologin, thus no gdm showing up | 22:44 |
| mandrew | i have set it up to log me in with no password :P | 22:45 |
| charlie-tca | I can't find how to auto-login with upstart | 22:45 |
| mandrew | its when you install it | 22:45 |
| knome | hmm | 22:45 |
| charlie-tca | I don't want it then. I want to tturn it off and on | 22:46 |
| knome | mandrew, i think you need to run 'sudo gdmsetup' and change that setting for a while, then log out and select xfce session from gdm | 22:47 |
| mandrew | ok or mabye log in and out would fix that | 22:48 |
| mandrew | then i get that window | 22:48 |
| mandrew | i found how to solve the problem | 22:49 |
| knome | mandrew, great | 22:49 |
| mandrew | its in /sys/admin/ logg inscreen | 22:50 |
| mandrew | or some like it cuz i dont have english as main language | 22:50 |
| mandrew | love it | 22:52 |
| mandrew | thank you | 22:53 |
| mandrew | so i can do this with kubuntu, gobuntu etc etc | 22:53 |
| mandrew | and get them desktops too? | 22:54 |
| knome | mandrew, kubuntu-desktop, i don't know about gobuntu | 22:57 |
| mandrew | that is so cool | 22:58 |
| mandrew | love it this is so sweeeeet | 23:00 |
| Bwyard | hwo do i eject a cd in xubuntu it wont let me | 23:00 |
| Bwyard | Failed to eject "/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/storage_model_DVD__RW_GSA_T40N". | 23:01 |
| knome | Bwyard, try 'eject -T' from terminal | 23:01 |
| knome | mandrew, :) | 23:01 |
| Bwyard | Given device "/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/storage_model_DVD__RW_GSA_T40N" is not a volume or drive. | 23:01 |
| Bwyard | it worked when i did sudo | 23:02 |
| knome | okay | 23:02 |
| Bwyard | anybody can help me with fluxbox | 23:06 |
| knome | !fluxbox | Bwyard | 23:07 |
| ubottu | Bwyard: fluxbox is a lightweight and responsive window manager for GNU/Linux. For how to set it up and more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox | 23:07 |
| Sysi | hmm, is there #fluxubuntu ? | 23:07 |
| knome | Sysi, that would be fluxbuntu, but i don't know if they have an irc channel | 23:07 |
| Sysi | !fluxubuntu | 23:08 |
| ubottu | fluxbuntu is a LPAE-standard compliant, Ubuntu-based derivative that maintains the goal of running on a wide range of mobile devices and computers (low-end & high-end). It is lightweight, swift and efficient. | Support Channel: #fluxbuntu on freenode | Homepage: http://fluxbuntu.org/ | 23:08 |
| Sysi | they should | 23:08 |
| knome | yeah, and i should have infinite free beer | 23:08 |
| knome | ;) | 23:08 |
| Sysi | but that's the great truth of ubottu :) | 23:09 |
| mandrew | ok good night ppl of the free OS :P | 23:09 |
| knome | night mandrew | 23:09 |
| Sysi | hmm, from neighbour country | 23:11 |
| Bwyard | hi | 23:11 |
| ron_o | is it me or is xubuntu really been extra stable lately? | 23:51 |
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