=== ubuntu_ is now known as Roey === Paraselene__ is now known as Paraselene_ [00:43] Wake up. [00:44] hey [00:45] I'm kinda bummed by the fact that they polished GNOME-buntu so much it's tempting just looking at screenshots.. whereas in that respect kubuntu still feels kinda behind :S [00:45] ubuntu looks almost like OSX.. [00:46] haha [00:46] btw: [00:46] computers are frustrating [00:46] ;) [00:46] :D [00:46] I've been trying to install kubuntu on mine for the past two -days-. [00:47] karmic? [00:47] right. [00:47] what does it do? [00:47] it doesn't load the raid drivers and then complains it can't find / [00:47] ah [00:47] and no one seems to be able to help :P [00:47] onboard raid ? [00:48] nono [00:48] softraid1 [00:48] fewer people use raid :S [00:48] dm_raid1 driver. [00:49] does gnome look much different from it did in 8.04? The screenshots dont look polished much to me [00:50] it's all pos ;) [00:50] kde >> gnome ;) [00:50] well i use kde atm [00:50] its not without its problems [00:51] aye [00:54] carpii_: well that's the nature of GNOME.. everything's incremental, but feels like careful perfecting.. [00:54] most notable in karmic is the tray area [00:54] heh ok. just by what you said earlier, it sounded like it had had a sudden revamp on the gui [00:54] with those gray small icons which make it look very clean [00:55] honestly, I like KDE4 better in terms of functionality, and compared to KDE3.x it's much closer to GNOME in terms of polished look and ease.. [00:55] but I wish it would go even further :) [00:56] i hate kde 4.x. I had to go back to 3.5 [00:56] also.. added effort and funding on the kubuntu project could help.. I don't think they spend as much effort on it as they do on gnome [00:56] but im hoping to try it again, because that was a while ago [00:56] which did you try? [00:57] it was 4.1 i think [00:57] but ignoring the bugs, i just didnt like the whole plasma concept, and the vista-like start menu [00:57] ah, I think 4.3 is really the first one you could call solid.. [00:57] seemed like a step backwards to me :( [00:57] ah [00:57] well it can be switched to classic.. [00:58] hm, interesting [00:58] i didnt know that [00:58] oh, the start menu you mean [00:58] rather than the plasma/desktop thing [00:58] yeah [00:59] and plasma, well you can't turn it off as it's integral to it now, but you can configure it to make it more similar to KDE3 I think.. [00:59] ok, ill have another play with it [00:59] like, putting folder view on the entire desktop so you have normal desktop icons [00:59] yeah that was my main grumble [01:00] i use my desktop as a graphical wiki/dumping ground ;D [01:00] who doesn't :D [01:00] heh well, ive seen windows laptops which are 2 year old and still only have the My Computer icon and nothing else ;D [01:00] tho I started kinda getting used to the folder view widget idea... it at least restraints all the icons to an area and lets you scroll then :) [01:00] lol [01:04] /j #kde [01:04] Why? Anything fun going on there? [01:26] Amarok is kinda terrible. I have to fight with it just to add new files to my "local collection" [01:27] As far as linux programs go, its clunkyness is on par with iTunes, is there a better KDE player? I kinda miss Banshee at ths point [01:28] way too much information and options and just shit spewed everywhere [01:29] hey do I need the alternate disk to install to raid1 if I already have the partitions set up? [01:39] so will i get slapped for asking newb questions in here? [01:39] Do I need the alternate disk to install to raid1 if I already have the partitions set up? [01:42] is it possible to setup an image to boot from USB but to use system memory for everything? [01:49] has anyone setup a USB 3G modem in Kubuntu? [01:53] can anyone tell me how to get vendorid & productid of a device! Is there a log or a cmd i can run? [01:59] has anyone gotten tinychat to work with usb webcams? [02:17] JJman6: lspci -nn [02:18] for a USB device? [02:18] (for pci devices) [02:18] JJman6: lsusb -v [02:18] what if that device isn't mounting properly ;-) [02:19] lsusb/lspci doesn't know about mounting [02:22] can i just output that -v info for a specific device. the output is quite lengthy [02:23] JJman6: Not with that command [02:31] genii, I had a udev rule created to do some stuff for this USB 3G device. and i think the rule was assigning the idVendor:idProduct (for a older model) i tried removing that rule and reattaching my device and running the lsusb -v cmd to see if i can get an accurate id. but to no avail it seems to still be using hte rule [02:32] How can i be sure that the output i'm now seeing is not being influenced by the rule or something else. [02:45] i have installed sun jdk 6, java plugin for firefox does not work [02:49] anyone tried kubuntu netbook remix [03:11] Do I need the alternate disk to install to raid1 if I already have the partitions set up? I'm using Karmic 9.10 [03:12] firefox applet doesn't load [03:15] seems like my kernel isn't loading raid drivers... grub times out and then dumps me to a busybox shell... I do ls /dev/md* and don't see anything there, so I can only assume that the raid drivers are not loaded. Yet they are (dm_raid* is loaded according to modprobe). Yet the kernel panics and decides it can't find / (which is on /de/vmd1) [03:17] what's going on here, anyone have an idea? [03:17] http://pastebin.com/f6efcbf2c <-- contains output of 'blkid' and contents of /boot/grub/grub.cfg [03:33] Hello. Is there a way to have GTK apps use the font settings for KDE in 9.04? [03:33] My fonts in Firefox, Thunderbird and Pidgin are really large for menys and window titles. [03:40] всем привет [03:40] кто сказет как называется прога, через которую можно запустить винду, типа вертуальная машина [03:41] !ru [03:41] Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke === ubuntu_ is now known as Roey [03:46] hello. anyone knows when or if we will have plasma-network-manager back? [03:51] hi [03:55] hi [03:55] hi guys [03:59] Ninad: if your using ubuntu you'll want to stick to the #ubuntu channel. us lowely KDE ppl this channel is pretty dead [03:59] really? [03:59] ok [04:00] actually i am Windows user [04:00] I am new to Linux [04:00] im sortof new too [04:00] just started last friday [04:00] I want to learn it in order to get good job in my country bcos very few people know about Kubuntu [04:00] in my country [04:01] Kubuntu rox. i love it. I prefer it over Ubuntu personally. [04:02] It is prevented from Viruses [04:02] isnt it? [04:02] can we use .exe files in it? [04:02] Linux is less prone then windows to virus attacks if thats what you mean. but you can still get virus's [04:02] yeah i know [04:03] nately no. .exe files are a Winblows (i mean windows) based extension. But you can run some windows based programs through a linux tool called Wine [04:03] but very few viruses are meant for [04:03] Ubuntu [04:03] ohh [04:03] thanks [04:03] wine [04:04] actually i ddint know about IRC [04:04] i am new on irc also [04:04] I'm playing poker through Wine right now ;-) [04:04] cause they don't hav ea linux based client so i am forced to run the windows client in linux [04:04] my friend told me that irc is a good channel through which i can solve my problems [04:05] It has its moments. its kinda hit or miss [04:05] But yes overall it can be a great support tool. I use it frequently for such [04:05] But when u get into more advanced things it becomes harder to get help [04:06] ohhh [04:06] but thanks to IRC i can solve my problems whenever i get them [04:07] i wish that were true [04:07] yeah [04:07] I'm stuck on a problem for days and days often even with the help of IRC [04:07] what about your exp. with Linux [04:07] ? [04:08] u didnt get help from IRC? [04:09] I am now [04:09] Originally i didn't [04:09] ok [04:09] all my early experience was learnt the hard way. [04:09] good [04:09] yeah , Big Problems gives Sweet Fruits [04:12] JJMAN are you there? [04:12] yes. playing poker [04:13] ok [04:13] i would Like to tell you about my site [04:13] I have made [04:14] www.songsmarathi.com [04:14] uhh ok [04:14] whats that have to do with linux [04:14] yeah [04:15] actually it is uploaded on Linux server [04:15] k [04:15] ok [04:15] leave it [04:15] Thanks [04:15] i built many linux servers and websites [04:15] it was nice chatting with YOU [04:15] really? [04:16] yea. I'm a Web Dev. [04:16] how much it costs you? [04:16] web dev? [04:16] means? [04:16] dev means GOD? [04:16] to build servers? nothing Linux is free === raskolnikov is now known as Guest35529 [04:16] lol. no [04:16] Web Developer [04:16] ohh [04:17] in hindu dev means GOD [04:17] wow [04:17] u r a developer [04:17] some dev's think they are gods [04:17] thats nice [04:17] i c [04:17] lol [04:17] actually they are GODs of Servers [04:18] Yea, PHP, MySQL, CSS & linux admin are my specialties [04:18] WOW [04:18] how do you get that? [04:18] I would love to specialize in Linux [04:19] uh school, practice i guess. I'm not working for any companies right now. I'm helping build 1 or 2 companies tho. [04:19] so I'm poor ;-) [04:19] the #ubuntu-server channel is helpful if your setting up server related stuff [04:20] wow [04:20] so nice of you [04:20] I am new to Linux [04:21] how do I start [04:21] ? [04:21] can you guide me? === Guest35529 is now known as raskolnikov [04:21] well whats your experience [04:21] windows/mac? === raskolnikov is now known as Guest32656 [04:21] i came from Windows (used to work for Microsoft actually 8-( [04:22] but i hate them now [04:22] wow [04:22] so i've completely switched over to Linux full time [04:22] they dont give us freedom [04:22] nope [04:22] cool [04:23] Here's a good resource for you that i'd suggest. Its been an invaluable learning tool for me in addition to IRC. [04:23] where you from? [04:23] which country? [04:24] install miroTV and there's a bunch of linux related podcast/screencasts you can watch learn from [04:24] ohh great [04:24] let me check [04:24] I'm from the US. but i'm living in the Philippines at the moment temporarily for a few months [04:24] considering relocating over here because the cost of living os so much smalleer here. and my women is here [04:25] good [04:25] woman (not women) ;-) [04:26] lol [04:26] only one woman [04:26] in this country yes ;-) [04:27] u install MiroTV yet? [04:27] how manny you have [04:27] ? [04:27] i am searching for MiroTV [04:27] its a secret ;-) [04:27] is it there in package installer? [04:28] yea [04:28] or u can do a sudo apt-get install miro from cmd line [04:28] ok [04:28] tell me the commands [04:29] that is the cmd [04:29] sudo apt-get install miro [04:29] having lunch now be back shortly [04:29] ok [04:29] but [04:29] its not [04:30] getting miro package [04:30] do you know what the terminal is [04:30] yes [04:30] I know [04:30] where do we type commands to get output from them [04:30] Its Like DOS [04:30] is Microsoft [04:31] open up your terminal [04:32] yeah I did [04:32] now [04:32] ? [04:32] its a little different name then KDE's which is what i use. i forget [04:32] ohhh [04:32] now type: sudo apt-get install miro [04:33] ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ [04:33] ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install miro [04:33] Reading package lists... Done [04:33] Building dependency tree [04:33] Reading state information... Done [04:33] Ninad: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [04:33] E: Couldn't find package miro [04:34] hmmm i thought it was part of repo's i'm sure it is tahts how i installed it. [04:34] open your synaptics package manager and search for 'miro' [04:35] i have done [04:35] it [04:35] but [04:35] i didnt get anything [04:35] Ninad: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [04:35] weird [04:35] I'm trying to install the nvidia driver via the hardware drivers app but when i select it and click activate nothing happens [04:35] what version u using [04:35] 9.04? [04:35] yeah [04:36] ubuntu 9.04 [04:37] ok i guess you'll have to DL it from their site: http://www.getmiro.com/download/ [04:38] thanks [04:38] let me see it [04:38] ok my bad i guess i added it to the repo's thats why i had it already [04:38] the instructions on their dl page will tell u how to install it [04:42] ok [04:42] wait [04:42] yes [04:43] any ideas what i can try to get this thing workin? it's broken for me in both 9.04 and 9.10 [04:43] its probably going to stay broken since i don't know what a 'thing' is [04:45] JJman: the driver install app [04:45] jockey-kde [04:45] just does nothing when i try to activate the nvidia driver i need [04:45] never used it. so i can't help [04:46] Ohh jjman [04:46] i am not getting it [04:46] ugh [04:46] I ddi whatever the instructions told me to do [04:47] Ninad: can u be more specific. what was the problem. what errors are u having [04:48] ok [04:48] let me tell [04:48] you [04:49] # [04:49] Open Synaptic Package Manager [04:49] # [04:49] Open the repositories window [04:49] # [04:49] Ninad: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [04:49] Select the "Third Party" tab, then click the add button [04:49] You can't paste a bunch of lines in here. u need to use pastebin.com or something. the floodbot will kick u [04:50] ohh [04:50] sorry [04:50] just pm me it'll be easier that way [04:51] I am not getting add source button [04:51] :( [04:52] ok well how do i "activate" the nvidia driver after installing it from apt? i understand that touching the xorg.conf in ubuntu is a cardinal sin [04:52] says who [04:53] i touch it all the time [04:53] docgnome: it should justwork[TM] [04:53] that's just what i've been told [04:53] nevyn: yeah so i'm told. problem is that's a load of crap -_- [04:53] sometimes u need to edit it to do what u want [04:53] nevyn: it might "just work" if the stupid jocky-kde panel thing worked [04:54] hey jjman [04:54] can you give me ur ID? [04:54] JJman: yeah i'm trying to avoid doing anything that would cause breakage for another user. i understood that messing with xorg.conf can/will break all the display related configs [04:54] I will ask you as soon as i get difficulties [04:54] JJman [04:55] docgnome: thats why youalways make a backup copy or it before you make any changes! Rule #1 [04:55] back it up [04:56] ugh. gee thanks. [04:56] Rule #2 : back it up again [05:00] hello peoples [05:09] ugh [05:09] is there a way to generate an xorg.conf. i don't appear to have one [05:12] Xorg -configure === mike is now known as Guest96850 [05:18] docgnome: you shouldn't need one [05:18] docgnome: unless something is wrong [05:19] wt: so everyone says [05:19] but i can't activate the nvidia driver [05:20] oh...yeah, you might need it for that [05:20] I don't know anything about nvidia === Guest96850 is now known as mmmiiikkkeee [05:20] I don't buy their products [05:21] Has anyone else noticed how 'screen' in Kubuntu has a bunch of stuff at the bottom of the screen that doesn't exist in regular Ubuntu? [05:22] no, I have my own screen config [05:22] I have the tabs showing on the bottom [05:23] it's not my ox [05:23] er [05:23] box [05:23] it's someone elses that im trying to crap kubuntu onto [05:23] "crap kubuntu onto"? [05:24] Is that a really offensive way to say "install"? [05:24] cram [05:24] not crap [05:24] typo [05:24] sorry [05:24] docgnome: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [05:24] oh...:) [05:24] FloodBotK2: bite me [05:24] how do i kill x so that it won't come back up again [05:25] i need to take it down to i can use Xorg -configure [05:25] docgnome: you use kubuntu? [05:25] on this box yeah [05:25] service kdm stop [05:25] as root [05:25] thanks [05:25] np [05:26] I doubt hat X -configure will work without post editing for nVidia [05:26] nothing shows up for 'screen' in regular Ubuntu, no tabs or anything [05:26] postfuturist: I have mine configured to do so [05:27] yeah it has nvidia in there already [05:27] hardstatus alwayslastline '%{= bw}%-w%{= bR}[%n %t]%{= bw}%+w' [05:27] that's the import part of my screen config [05:32] emr [05:37] What does emr mean? [05:37] no.. [05:55] guys how do i see what version of the target package will be installed? [05:55] i was told that apt-show-version can be used for this, [05:55] but i have no idea hwo that wors [05:56] works* [06:11] eatThisAndDie: apt-cache policy [06:16] jussi, how would i select a particular version to install then? === hemathor_ is now known as hemathor [07:00] hello [07:02] CheapSexAndBooze: please change your nick to something family friendly. thanks [07:02] is that why nobody will talk to me [07:02] ? [07:03] CheapSexAndBooze: If you dont, I need to remove you from the channel, so please do it :) [07:03] jussi01: thank you === CheapSexAndBooze is now known as kniggit [07:04] there you fucking happy [07:04] why will nobody talk to me [07:05] !language | kniggit [07:05] kniggit: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly. [07:05] kniggit: I am talking to you... [07:06] whats wrong with sex and booze of the cheap variety [07:06] hello [07:06] What is up with people tonight? [07:07] !o4o | kniggit [07:07] kniggit: Some topics are controversial and often end in negativity. Take care on subjects like war, race, religion, politics, gender, sexuality, drugs, potentially illegal activities and suicide. The topics are not banned; stating your position is ok, but trolling, baiting, hostility or repetition are not. If you are asked to stop, do so politely. Disputes to !appeals, please adhere to !Freenode Policy and the !CodeOfConduct [07:07] what the *uck [07:08] jussi01: thank you [07:08] what is with people? [07:08] Do they really have nothing better to do? === kb is now known as Guest39468 === _newbie_ is now known as RussellAlan === kb is now known as Guest24344 [07:24] hi [07:25] Does anyone know a KDE client or Kioslave for the mercurial version controll system? [07:25] google only found some gnome stuff === kb is now known as Guest57760 [07:39] Hi! [07:40] hi [07:41] I'm about to head to bed...Do you have a quick one? [07:41] yes please [07:41] make it quick...it's almost 01:00 here. :) [07:42] i would to know if i install windows xp in a virtualmachine, and i'll install scanner driver, the scanner will work? [07:43] that probably depends on the emulation software [07:43] I can say that I don't know [07:43] i'm using virtualbox3.0 [07:43] ah ok thanks :) [07:43] sorry [07:43] :) [07:44] If it's a USB scanner, the virtualbox would have to support the gues OS binding to the USB device....or it would have to support an emulated scanner [07:44] I would think that option 1 is more likely [07:44] anywho, g'nite [07:45] good night :) === kb is now known as Guest4938 === RaNdY is now known as Guest56868 [08:06]

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