[00:38] <dwegener> Hi, I'm very new.  I'm trying to fix a bug, but need some help on what I need to do.
[00:39] <dwegener> I know what the problem is, and I know what file needs to be changed.  The change actually needs to be made in an existing patch file.
[00:40] <micahg> is there already a bug filed?
[00:41] <dwegener> Yes, the bug has been filed.  I've added comments to the bug indicating what needs to be changed, but thought it would be helpfull if I could actually supply the fix.
[00:42] <lifeless> dwegener: use 'apt-get source' to get the source
[00:42] <lifeless> dwegener: use dch -i to add a changelog entry
[00:42] <lifeless> and change the patch file
[00:42] <lifeless> use debuild -i to to a test build, and if that works
[00:43] <lifeless> debuild -i -S to build a source package
[00:43] <lifeless> then use debdiff
[00:43] <lifeless> to get a complete diff you can supply
[00:43] <lifeless> #ubuntu-motu can help you with this more
[01:00] <VXxed> Is there any rule of thumb for how long bugs take to get resolved?
[01:03] <lifeless> VXxed: no
[01:04] <lifeless> VXxed: on average they aren't resolved [simple math, we have more bugs filed than are fixed, for any time period]
[01:04] <VXxed> Gotcha
[01:04] <VXxed> Just wondering, thanks
[01:04] <lifeless> it depends on how much attention that part of the system is getting
[01:04] <lifeless> and how hard the bug is
[01:05] <VXxed> Uhh...let's just..theoretically say...something to do with the ACPI and it not turning the fans on on my laptop, despite a full day of research and lots of things tried?
[01:06] <lifeless> they are tricky
[01:06] <lifeless> without the exact hardware the bug can't really be worked on
[01:06] <lifeless> have you read the debugging guide about ACPI/dsdt's ?
[01:07] <VXxed> Not yet, but I was going to sit down and try it out tonight, despite already opening a full bug report at the recommendation of someone in this channel
[01:08] <VXxed> From what hggdh told me, there wasn't any acpi error during bootup in the log
[01:09] <VXxed> Would trying to debug it still have a chance of fixing the issue?
[01:12] <lifeless> yes, though its a steep learning curve
[01:12] <VXxed> There's a full guide for it, last I saw
[01:12] <VXxed> And honestly
[01:12] <VXxed> Free tablet?
[01:12] <VXxed> Totally worth the work.
[02:56] <VXxed> Hey, question while debugging my dsdt file.
[02:57] <VXxed> I'm getting "external (\DC1S)" - "Name already exists in scope (\DC1S)", error 5056
[02:57] <VXxed> What does that mean?
[03:01] <VXxed> Er, nevermind.
[03:01] <VXxed> This next error is much more complex.  "Method (SBLL, 1, NotSerialized)" - "Not all control paths return a value (SBLL)"
[03:02] <VXxed> Should I just delete the SBLL?
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[05:23] <darthanubis> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/449272
[05:23] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 449272 in compiz "Invest applet drop down leaves a shadow on desktop" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[08:53] <kruemel> hi everybody
[08:54] <kruemel> where do I report bugs on the _Windows_ usb-creator tool?
[09:01] <indus> kruemel: hi
[09:02] <indus> kruemel: you report it on launchpad
[09:02] <indus> kruemel: which windows usb creator tool?
[09:03] <kruemel> indus: the one that comes included in the 9.10 iso
[09:03] <indus> kruemel: it has a windows usb creator cool
[09:04] <indus> kruemel: hmm wait i check , i think you need to file a bug with ubiquity package
[09:04] <indus> kruemel: 1 sec
[09:04] <kruemel> indus: it's called usb-creator.exe , yes
[09:07] <kruemel> oops... please do mind
[09:09] <indus> kruemel: hi use this link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug/?no-redirect
[09:10] <indus> kruemel: i dont know which package this is so this will take you direct to bug file page
[09:10] <indus> kruemel: what is the problem you face with this usb creator?
[09:12] <kruemel> indus: The bug: The program has a button to select an iso as source. You can select an iso, but it won't show up as a source afterwards - so all in all you can't create a usb key directly from iso images.
[09:12] <indus> kruemel: no no you have to install it to windows first i think, then use image to copy
[09:13] <indus> kruemel: not sure really
[09:13] <kruemel> indus: you can select to create a usb key based on a Ubuntu CD in a CD drive
[09:13] <indus> kruemel: so there is a usb creator available on karmic cd hmm thats nice
[09:13] <kruemel> indus: that's the option that works
[09:14] <indus> kruemel: hmm it wont load the iso ?
[09:14] <kruemel> indus: it would be even nicer, if it worked :)
[09:14] <kruemel> indus: exactly
[09:14] <indus> kruemel: can i see a screenshot of the window?
[09:14] <indus> kruemel: use imagebin.org
[09:15] <kruemel> indus: just a moment
[09:17] <kruemel> indus: I'm working on it, but it's basically the same as if you take the usb-creator package in 9.04
[09:18] <indus> kruemel: dont remember now, i would like to see
[09:21] <indus> kruemel: as far as i remember, either create usb from existing linux machine, or do it from an iso in windows
[09:24] <indus> kruemel: i believe this can also be run from live cd directly to create usb bootable
[09:30] <kruemel> argh
[09:33] <kruemel> I put an image on http://imagebin.org/69432
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[13:58] <bddebian> Boo
[15:04] <shadeslayer> hey,anyone have a nvidia card?
[15:06] <benedikt> shadeslayer: are you looking for support/help?
[15:07] <shadeslayer> benedikt: nope,i simply want to see if anyone can get  jockey-kde to detect the card in 9.10
[15:24] <hggdh> shadeslayer: you would probably have more luck on #ubuntu+1
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[18:38] <Shikaku> Karmic has a semi-random critical bug, where sometimes (about 1/5th) X does not display at all as if the monitor was turned off, and the keyboard and power button do not work at all (I tried doing ctrl+alt+F1 and ctrl+alt+delete to do a restart but nothing happened) when booting up and resuming from hibernate. This occurs when the login screen is supposed to appear, so it seems it could be...
[18:38] <Shikaku> ...an X issue or a gdm issue. I was wondering if this was a known issue, because this never happened to me with Jaunty and I freshed installed Karmic.I was wondering if this was a known issue, because this never happened to me with Jaunty and I freshed installed Karmic.  Can anyone help me find out what to do to see if I can find an error code about it?
[18:39] <Shikaku> oops
[18:50] <ccheney> did launchpad recently change to where it doesn't send you your comments on bugs anymore? that is either happening to me or my email is getting eaten somehow
[18:51] <micahg> ccheney: spam filter?
[18:52] <ccheney> micahg: nope, but it might have somehow got stuck into a different folder i suppose
[18:53] <ccheney> oh i see them, ugh
[18:53] <ccheney> my filtering isn't as good as i had hoped apparently
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[19:13] <jmadgin> hi there! I've just come over from a convo with videolan channel, they told me you guys may be able to help! since i upgradfrom 9.04 to 9.10 my avi's dont seem to work in movie player or vlc. I checked the readout from vlc diagnostic and it said the encoder couldnt be found. I checked the encoder in synaptic and its there?
[19:14] <jmadgin> im tearing my hair out here trying to fix this
[19:14] <jmadgin> anyone know about it?
[19:19] <darthanubis> jmadgin, do you have the medibuntu repo setup?
[19:19] <darthanubis> how about !info ubuntu-restricted-extras
[19:19] <darthanubis> !info ubuntu-restricted-extras
[19:20] <ubot4> darthanubis: ubuntu-restricted-extras (source: ubuntu-restricted-extras): Commonly used restricted packages. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 31 (jaunty), package size 4 kB, installed size 32 kB
[19:20] <jmadgin> yes
[19:20] <jmadgin> i hav medibuntu and restricted extras
[19:20] <darthanubis> beats me then, I have no A/V issues. But then I did not upgrade
[19:20] <jmadgin> i also downloaded w32codecs
[19:21] <jmadgin> arrrrrgh
[19:21] <jmadgin> how annoying
[19:21] <darthanubis> good, i use w64codecs
[19:21] <jmadgin> but thats just for 64 bit isnt it?
[19:22] <ikt> yeah
[19:22] <ikt> I think he's saying that it's good you both are using the right codecs
[19:23] <darthanubis> right
[19:23] <ikt> purge + reinstall ?
[19:24] <jmadgin> tried
[19:26] <ikt> is it just specifically .avi videos?
[19:26] <jmadgin> havent tried anything else
[19:26] <jmadgin> but all types of avi
[19:26] <jmadgin> h264
[19:26] <jmadgin> mp4
[19:27] <jmadgin> im stumped
[19:28] <ikt> latest version of vlc?
[19:28] <ikt> just looking at vlc options
[19:28] <jmadgin> yes
[19:29] <micahg> jmadgin: have you checked in #ubuntu+1?
[19:29] <jmadgin> avi doesnt work in movie player either
[19:29] <jmadgin> or any app
[19:29] <jmadgin> yes i've asked
[19:29] <jmadgin> pretty much been ignored
[19:30] <ikt> all gstreamer plugins updated and installed?
[19:30] <jmadgin> yup
[19:30] <ikt> any further than this type of stuff and it gets pretty specific to finding out where vlc/totem think the encoder is
[19:30] <ikt> or it could be one checkbox in some random location
[19:31] <jmadgin> (totem:4447): GStreamer-WARNING **: Failed to load plugin '/usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstx264
[19:32] <jmadgin> i get that message if i run totem from termianl
[19:34] <ikt> o
[19:36] <ikt> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gstreamer0.10/+bug/440166
[19:36] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 440166 in gstreamer0.10 "impossible to play avi, Xvid plugins none available" [Low,Incomplete]
[19:36] <jmadgin> o
[19:37] <micahg> Here's my list of gstreamer packages: http://pastebin.com/f5b25869e
[19:37] <micahg> What do you get with dpkg -l | grep gstreamer
[19:38] <jmadgin> http://pastie.org/673827
[19:38] <jmadgin> that
[19:39] <jmadgin> same by the looks of it
[19:40] <jmadgin> ikt that link doesnt look cool at all its obviously an ongoing bug
[19:42] <ikt> yeah, it's odd though
[19:43] <jmadgin> i hope it gets sorted tomorrow at proper release
[19:44] <ikt> tbh I imagine if you did a fresh install it would work properly
[19:44] <jmadgin> cos thats an arse to anyone that wants to move over from window, if the movie player doent work!!!!!
[19:44] <jmadgin> u think
[19:44] <jmadgin> might try that
[19:44] <jmadgin> i hav filesystem on separate partition
[19:44] <ikt> that's all I can think of, I've been running 9.10 for a while now and vlc/totem have been working great
[19:44] <ikt> and I watch a lot of avis/mpegs
[19:45]  * ikt can't be at the computer without music playing :x
[19:46] <jmadgin> if i delete that partition and reinstall ubuntu over it everything should work the same?
[19:46] <jmadgin> rite?
[19:47] <jmadgin> im gonna cross my fingers and go for it
[19:47] <ikt> I wonder why this channel is so quiet :x
[19:47] <ikt> seb!
[19:48] <ikt> jmadgin: if you delete the partition and resetup the partition and install ubuntu 9.10, everything should be pretty similar
[19:48] <ikt> except video should work
[20:03] <jmadgin> ne1 kno when 9.10 is actually released?
[20:03] <jmadgin> what time uk time tomorrow?
[20:04] <jmadgin> or is it 12 thisevening
[20:04] <jmadgin> ?
[20:25] <caolin> How should I report inconsistencies between various BugSquad pages on the Ubuntu Wiki?
[20:27] <micahg> the mailing list might be a good place caolin
[20:27] <bdmurray> caolin: you could e-mail the bugsquad mailing list if you are uncertain which page is correct or if you are you could make the change yourself
[20:27] <micahg> if you can propose fixes, that's even better :)
[20:29] <caolin> unfortunately I don't yet know enough about how you currently operate to propose changes. The inconsistencies look to be the result of changing practices not being updated on all pages.
[20:32] <bdmurray> the mailing list would be best then
[20:32] <caolin> ok, thanks - will do
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[20:43] <hggdh> yes, since it will give us a more easier-to-work-on reference
[20:47] <bdmurray> more easier?
[20:51] <molok> hi *
[20:52] <hggdh> at least I will not have to refer back to IRC logs ;-)
[21:04] <BUGabundo> night o/
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[21:34] <JavaTheJHut> Hello, I would like to request some help with signing up in the UbuntuBugs team. I have read the documentation but, I am unsure where to start.
[21:40] <hggdh> and yet another shoot and run?
[21:41] <micahg> hggdh: instant gratification is a necessity...4 minutes must be too long to wait for a response ;)
[21:41] <hggdh> heh. oh tempora, oh mores
[21:43] <micahg> indeed
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