[00:18] <ToeBee> hipitihop: mythbuntu control center has an option to enable/disable mythweb security
[00:25] <ToeBee> although when I check mine it says it is enabled but it isn't asking me for a password...
[00:56] <hipitihop> ToeBee: thanks, that seems to have done the trick
[01:11] <tmkt> ToeBee: try dpkg-reconfigure mythweb
[01:12] <ToeBee> well I wasn't complaining. My mythbox isn't visible from outside my NAT so I don't WANT authentication
[01:12] <ToeBee> just observed :)
[01:14] <hipitihop> ToeBee: yes I agree... although I have 4 kids machines on the network and I didn't want them stuffing with mythweb but the security is a pain so now disabled :-)
[01:16] <ToeBee> might be able to do some more fine-grained control using .htaccess files for apache
[01:16] <ToeBee> so for example you could only require a password for "important" pages
[03:17]  * ToeBee wonders why he is watching live TV
[03:17] <ToeBee> keep wanting to skip the ads...
[03:26] <superm1> ToeBee, if your mythweb security thing is enabled but doesnt ask for a password, you probably started at a time when there was a bug
[03:27] <superm1> that reconfigure cycle or disable/enable in mcc should resolve it
[03:31] <ToeBee> well I just installed all the updates. We'll see what happens when I reboot :)
[03:40] <ToeBee> love the new hardware though... "Flag Commercials 3% Completed @ 101.735 fps."
[04:01] <Willy_> wow irc is cool
[04:02] <Willy_> I am setting up a mythtv in a linux computer
[04:02] <Willy_> but I want to run a frontend from a windows computer
[04:02] <Willy_> that has the tv capture card
[04:03] <Willy_> is there a way to do it through the network
[04:03] <foxbuntu> Willy_, I think you are confusing the terminology
[04:05] <foxbuntu> Willy_, while there are frontends for windows, and ways for windows PCs to interact with a Mythbuntu machine, you cannot use the capture card from a Windows PC to record video on your Mythbuntu machine
[04:07] <Willy_> so
[04:07] <Willy_> what about watch tv?
[04:07] <Willy_> i saw this guy that watch tv in a laptop and I got the impression that he was using a wireless network
[04:08] <Willy_> is it possible
[04:08] <Willy_> some how access that programming
[04:08] <Willy_> using my router
[04:08] <Willy_> or no
[04:08] <Willy_> i am new to ubuntu and mythtv
[04:09] <Willy_> but i am fast learner when it comes to computer stuff
[04:10] <hads> Mythtv is pretty much Linux software, AFAIK the Windows port isn't done.
[04:14] <Willy_> this guy did something nice  http://members.iinet.net.au/~davco
[04:14] <Willy_> for windows
[04:14] <Willy_> but I had trouble with the mysql
[04:14] <Willy_> because you sort have to know how to setup
[04:14] <Willy_> I was able to open the program but I couldn't connect to local host
[04:14] <Willy_> the mythubuntu is so nice
[04:14] <Willy_> because it does all that stuff for you
[04:15] <Willy_> no if I setup a server
[04:15] <Willy_> and run it on a linux machine
[04:15] <Willy_> can I broadcast it some how through the network?
[04:17] <hads> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Executive_Overview
[04:18] <ToeBee> Willy_: there are players for windows but the video capturing and recording needs to happen on linux. http://www.sudu.dk/mythtvplayer/
[04:18] <Willy_> yes
[04:18] <Willy_> I can make it
[04:18] <Willy_> i have a computer that has a capture video
[04:19] <Willy_> but hopefully i found the software for it (drivers)
[04:19] <Willy_> i can make that work
[04:19] <Willy_> do all the capturing and recording at a linux box
[04:19] <ToeBee> check the mythtv compatibility to see if your hardware will work in linux
[04:19] <Willy_> but how do I broadcast the video
[04:21] <ToeBee> well you can either stream things through the mythweb plugin or use something like the player I posted above that connects directly to the backend server
[04:21] <hads> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Executive_Overview
[04:21] <Willy_> cool
[04:21] <ToeBee> yes, definitely read that link
[04:22] <Willy_> hey
[04:22] <Willy_> it ask me for a member group password
[04:22] <Willy_> I am trying to run it for the first ime
[04:22] <Willy_> *time
[04:38] <BitS> so, I just asked in #mythtv-users with no joy and was suggested to try here, so here I am
[04:38] <foxbuntu> BitS, asked what?
[04:38] <BitS> to make a long story short: seperate front and backend machines.  Backend can be connected to from a mac running mythfrontend, but my mythbuntu front end fails
[04:38] <BitS> or rather, hangs
[04:39] <BitS> with no ui
[04:39] <foxbuntu> BitS, please gather more info using Mythbuntu Log Grabber and post the link it generates here.
[04:39] <BitS> http://pastebin.org/48880
[04:39] <BitS> oh
[04:39] <BitS> thats the output of mythfrontend -v all
[04:40] <foxbuntu> BitS, that will help as well
[04:40] <BitS> should I still run the log grabber
[04:40] <BitS> I'll do that
[04:40] <foxbuntu> yes
[04:41] <BitS> http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/f68bab4ed
[04:42] <BitS> heh, first time I looked at those logs
[04:43] <BitS> the initial problems were simply because the backend was sitting at a boot prompt due to my own stupidity
[04:44] <BitS> I don't suppose it could be something as silly as the nvidia drivers?
[04:48] <BitS> I've had both the frontend machine and backend machine initially setup as frontend/backend standalone systems and it worked during my initial playing around, now I'm trying to move things around so I can put the backend in a closet.  I've reinstalled both with 9.10rc i386, both using the iso as it comes and after a apt-get update/upgrade
[04:48] <BitS> the backend was amd64 initially, but I switched it to i386 as that was my first guess as to the weirdness
[04:49] <superm1> BitS, do you have some upnp hardware in your network?
[04:49] <superm1> possibly a router, or anything like that?
[04:49] <BitS> when I say switched, I should say clean reinstall
[04:49] <BitS> my router is a fbsd box, I've got one WAP that shouldn't for any reason and a xbox360 thats turned off
[04:49] <BitS> actualy I think the 360 isn't even wired at the moment as I stole the network cable for this
[04:50] <superm1> Okay that's good to keep it ruled out
[04:50] <BitS> lemme think about that for a second
[04:50] <superm1> someone came in here a week or two ago with similar problems and it appeared to be caused by some kind of UPNP conflict
[04:50] <BitS> theres a windows box
[04:50] <superm1> can you remove it from the network temporarily just to isolate this problem out?
[04:50] <BitS> 2k3 domain controller, it shouldn't do anything
[04:51] <BitS> just a sec, I'll disconnect everything that isn't required
[04:52] <BitS> hrm, I forgot about my freenas box
[04:52] <BitS> its probably doing upnp for itunes or something
[04:53] <superm1> well if you do determine that's the cause, then there may still be a bug here in the conflict, but you'd at least have a workaround to get you up and running until that bug could be figured out/sorted
[04:53] <BitS> yea
[04:54] <BitS> freenas is off, nothing but the wap, fbsd firewall/router, the frontend, the backend, and this machine
[04:54] <BitS> taking the wap out of the picture is a little harder
[04:54] <BitS> the #mythtv-users guys basically said 'i have no idea, it looks like its working except its not'
[04:54] <BitS> and my mac frontend works fine :/
[04:56] <Willy> hey what is that command to install mythtv from terminal
[04:56] <superm1> BitS, can you try running "mythfrontend -v all -d"  That should disable the backend autodiscovery and hopefully skip some of that upnp stuff
[04:57] <superm1> BitS, that and you can modify /etc/default/mythtv-backend on your backend to disable upnp from that side too
[04:57] <Willy> hey how do Install mythtvubuntu from terminal
[04:58] <superm1> Willy, apt-get install mythtv if you just want mythtv
[04:58] <superm1> Willy, apt-get install mythbuntu-desktop if you want all of mythbuntu
[04:58] <Willy> what is the difference superml
[04:59] <superm1> Willy, if you aren't sure of the difference, please just install from the Mythbuntu CD
[04:59] <BitS> still no joy
[04:59] <superm1> you'll have a better experience without having to learn a lot of the intricacies
[04:59] <BitS> I guess there is a really slim chance I've installed something upnp related on the fbsd box
[05:00] <BitS> the puzzling part is the working mac frontend
[05:00] <superm1> yeah...
[05:00] <BitS> unfortunately, I don't want to leave my laptop hooked up to the TV, and that doesn't help the other rooms
[05:01] <BitS> someone in #mythtv-users suggested a multicast routing issue but I've got what appears to be valid multicast routes
[05:01] <BitS> on both the backend and frontend
[05:01] <BitS> not sure how to test mcast routing really though
[05:03] <Willy> i can not do it superml
[05:04] <Willy>  i think i need access as adminstrator
[05:04] <BitS> heh, yea, thats a requirement
[05:04] <Willy> how do i login as admin
[05:04] <hads> You don't. Use your user password.
[05:05] <BitS> hrm
[05:06] <BitS> rm -rf .mythtv and starting the frontend with -d doesn't give me a config screen anymore
[05:06] <Willy> never mind i got it
[05:06] <BitS> it still knows about the server
[05:07] <BitS> pardon my ignorance but uhm, wtf?
[05:09] <BitS> wtf
[05:09] <BitS> so it connected
[05:09] <BitS> renamed /etc/mythtv
[05:09]  * BitS shoots himself in the foot
[05:13] <superm1> wait so what was the final solution?
[05:13] <superm1> /etc/mythtv is chosen as the main location for config related stuff purposefully
[05:13] <superm1> so that jamu and mirobridge and a few other things work right
[05:16] <BitS> I'm not sure
[05:17] <BitS> I differed the two directories and the only differences were that the new fild has the dbport set to 0 instead of 6543 which I added during trial and error, and the new config.xml has a MediaRenderer guid
[05:17] <superm1> well if you figure out what it was causing it, please get it on a bug :)
[05:17] <BitS> removed both of them and its still working
[05:17] <BitS> yea, I'm gonna figure it out now cause I've screwed with both systems so much I want to start over
[05:17] <BitS> it very well could have been a combination of the config dir and something on my network
[05:18] <BitS> I'm down to a firewall, the myth machines and one laptop
[05:18] <BitS> I'e taken out the wap, the w2k3 domain controller, and a freenas box
[05:19] <BitS> the only file difference I can see is the MediaRenderer tag is different now
[05:20] <BitS> I presume thats used in the database for settings and such related to the specific frontend?
[05:20] <Willy> hey how come
[05:20] <Willy> i need a password when I run mythtv
[05:20] <Willy> it says i need to belong to a group
[05:21] <BitS> glad its working, but my living room is a mess with wires and computers
[05:21] <superm1> Willy, that it normally handled when you do a mythbuntu install
[05:21] <superm1> Willy, (from cd)
[05:21] <Willy> yeah
[05:21] <superm1> Willy, if you are installing on top of gnome or anything, it attempts to configure your system proprerly
[05:21] <Willy> i do not have a cd
[05:21] <superm1> with regard to group management
[05:22] <BitS> okay
[05:22] <BitS> it has something to do with my /etc/mythtv
[05:23] <BitS> if I rename it to something else, the frontend runs
[05:23] <BitS> if I put it back without touching anything, it breaks
[05:23] <superm1> compare the permissions between the two perhaps?
[05:24] <BitS> so, if I have both /etc/mythtv and ~/.mythtv, both with config.xml files, does the /etc one get loaded first and ~ one get overlayed?
[05:25] <BitS> nevermind
[05:25] <BitS> removing the one in /etc doesn't matter
[05:26] <BitS> we're down to mysql.txt
[05:26] <BitS> moving it solves it
[05:30] <BitS> interestingly, ~/.mythtv symlinks to /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt (which seems normal enough) , if I remove ~/.mythtv/mysql.txt it just recreates the symlink, which again makes sense
[05:30] <BitS> but removing it from /etc/mythtv works
[05:30] <BitS> sigh, okay, so now to figure out why
[05:30] <BitS> sorry, I'm rambling
[05:30] <BitS> this gets logged somewhere right, so my useless thoughts my be useful to someone in the future? :)
[05:31] <superm1> Yeah
[05:31] <BitS> I wonder how I screwed this up off the start
[05:32] <BitS> so uhm
[05:33] <BitS> don't set DBPort in mysql.txt
[05:33] <BitS> apparently
[05:33] <BitS> if its 0, it works, if its 6543, it doesn't work
[05:34] <BitS> is /etc/mythtv a mythbuntu thing or a standard mythtv thing?
[05:34] <BitS> trying to figure out where this belongs
[05:34] <BitS> as far as reporting a bug or stupid mistake
[05:34] <hads> It's standard in ~/.mythtv/
[05:35] <hads> DBPort sounds like the mysql port, which isn't 6543
[05:35] <BitS> my ~/.mythtv symlinks to /etc/mythtv/
[05:35] <BitS> well, the mysql.txt and config.xml do
[05:35] <BitS> heh
[05:35] <BitS> that
[05:35] <BitS> that would explain a lot wouldn't it
[05:35] <hads> :)
[05:35] <hads> One of those d'oh moments.
[05:35] <superm1> so whow did dbport get set in mysql.txt?
[05:36] <Willy> ok the program runs
[05:36] <Willy> but when i press watch nothings happen
[05:36] <hads> !logs | Willy
[05:36] <Zinn> Willy: MythTV logs are stored in /var/log/mythtv/   You can use mythbuntu-log-grabber from the Applications menu to automatically post the most relevant logs to our pastebin.
[05:37] <Willy> how do i do that zinn
[05:37] <Willy> give me the command to run in terminal
[05:37] <hads> Come on, you need to think a little yourself too.
[05:38] <superm1> usually what you say is a permissions problem
[05:38] <superm1> !bla%
[05:38] <Zinn> If you try to watch tv and are greeted with a blank screen and a return to the menu then please check the permissions on your recording directory.  It should be owned by mythtv:mythtv, have permissions of 775, and not be inside your home directory
[05:38] <Willy> come on... help me out. I am new to both things linux and mythtv
[05:38] <BitS> oh god, finally, HD goodness
[05:38] <superm1> again it would have been done properly if you installed from a mythbuntu live cd...
[05:38] <BitS> thanks for all your help
[05:38] <Willy> yeah the cd
[05:38] <superm1> BitS, glad it was fixed
[05:38] <Willy> well I was downloading an iso
[05:39] <superm1> BitS, do you have any insight where that DBPort got set?
[05:39] <Willy> maybe i could turn that into a cd
[05:39] <superm1> at what point?
[05:39] <BitS> I did it
[05:39] <hads> :)
[05:39] <BitS> originally upnp wasn't working, so I entered the info when prompted
[05:39] <Willy> so if I click on watch tv and nothing happens is because is not properly install
[05:40] <BitS> I'm not sure WHY I thought that was the right port, I saw it somewhere online and used it, but after thinking about it, its obviously not the standard mysql port, at the time I just assumed it was different for some reason in mythbuntu
[05:40] <BitS> I should have known something was up when I saw 6544 as the mythtv status port
[05:40] <hads> You got confused with the backend port.
[05:41] <BitS> yep
[05:41] <hads> These things happen
[05:41] <BitS> obviously it was a user error, but ... something needs to be added to timeout or warn that the db isn't functioning properly
[05:41] <BitS> and thats why its hangging
[05:42] <Willy> hey how can i check if my capture card is working
[05:45] <hads> BitS: Good luck in there :)
[05:46] <superm1> Willy, that depends on the type of capture card
[05:47] <Willy> i know there a command you can use to know what hardware you have
[05:47] <BitS> hads: heh, could be worse, I made the mistake of asking a stupid question in #c on efnet years ago
[05:49] <hads> BitS: heh, it's usually not bad in there, just a bit of attitude sometimes.
[05:52] <Willy> sudo lshw  i did this
[05:52] <Willy> and found something for the video card capture
[05:53] <Willy> Bt878 Video Capture
[05:55] <BitS> omgomgomg latoya saw michaels ghost
[05:56] <BitS> is there no one in that family who has any self respect
[06:03] <Willy> superml
[06:03] <Willy> i found some drivers
[06:03] <Willy> how can test to see if they make the capture card work
[06:19] <hipitihop> when I inert a DVD and then use Optical Disks .. Import DVD, it fails with "...this is bad" dialog, where do I look for errors ?
[06:36] <hads> hipitihop: mtd.log
[06:37] <hads> I think, I don't use it myself.
[06:43]  * ToeBee files another minor bug
[06:55] <Willy> ok i tested my video card capture and it works
[06:55] <Willy> i tested with tvtime
[06:56] <Willy> i was able to see my local channels
[06:56] <Willy> i think i did the installation wrong for mythtv
[06:56] <Willy> because i run the setup
[06:56] <Willy> and everyting
[06:56] <Willy> but when I go to front end and click watch tv nothing happens
[06:58] <superm1> you have to make sure that you associate it with a video source
[06:58] <superm1> if you have no guide data source, then you still have to set it to no data
[06:58] <Willy> let me check that
[07:01] <Willy> i click on video source
[07:01] <Willy> and it did xmltv grabber search
[07:06] <superm1> check the backend log then for what's going wrong
[07:06] <superm1> !logs
[07:06] <Zinn> MythTV logs are stored in /var/log/mythtv/   You can use mythbuntu-log-grabber from the Applications menu to automatically post the most relevant logs to our pastebin.
[08:52] <hipitihop> hads: log says: "mtd started at Wed Oct 28 14:26:46 2009..mtd is running on a host called ion-htpc...14:26:46: Waiting for connections/jobs...14:26:46: mtd is listening on port 2442...14:26:46: a client socket has been opened...14:26:46: Drive not available: /dev/scd0...14:27:22: a client socket has been closed...14:27:31: a client socket has been opened
[08:52] <hipitihop> hads: nothing stands out apart form not available. /dev/scd0
[08:53] <hipitihop> but playing the the dvd is fine.
[08:55] <hipitihop> checking dmesg
[09:03] <hipitihop> hads or others, pls see snip from dmesg and please help me shed some light on the problem http://paste.ubuntu.com/303444/
[09:15] <hads> "Out of memory: kill process 3358 (mtd) score 1243418 or a child
[09:16] <hads> You have memory issues.
[09:17] <hipitihop> so 2gb is insufficient for importing a DVD ? current used is 471916k and free is 1325464k
[09:18] <hipitihop> as per top
[09:21] <hads> As I said, I don't use it so I don't know. It looks like you have memory issues though. Something isn't right.
[15:26] <_abbenormal> hello guys
[15:27] <_abbenormal> where do we change the ip address to static from dhcp in the past i would use /etc/network/interfaces but no info there about eth0
[16:18] <_abbenormal> http://pastebin.com/m1dce83d8
[16:35] <_abbenormal> i figured it thanks
[16:46] <_abbenormal> nope adding that to the etc/network/interfaces does not work as now i have noi eth0 to work with so something is still not right in mythubuntu-9.1.0
[16:48] <superm1> do it from the network manager GUI
[16:49] <_abbenormal> wont stay keeps going back to dhcp
[16:50] <_abbenormal> ill try again
[16:50] <_abbenormal> brb
[16:58] <_abbenormal> ok now it is showing up so where are those setting stored at
[17:33] <MythbuntuGuest33> hi I am trying to upgrade to 9.10 - update-manager asks for sudo password ?  - what is it/or did I forgot it ?
[17:33] <Guest66834> Has anyone tried pinning to defer the upgrading of myth packages?
[17:34] <Guest66834> sudo is the same password as your user password.
[17:39] <MythbuntuGuest33> great - then I forgot my password.. must find out how to solve this then. - thanks.
[17:41] <Guest66834> reset password by booting to single use mode or rescue mode or whatever it is called, go to a root prompt and type "passwd username"
[17:44] <MythbuntuGuest33> thank you
[18:32] <MythbuntuGuest55> getting a blue screen when playing videos,  from desktop using mplayer changing  the driver to x11 works fine.  Changed player line in config to "-vo x11" and still get blue screen
[19:13] <lorenzo1985> hi , Does anyone know how to configure multiple instances of lirc. Such that the init.d thing starts each instance with seperate config
[19:14] <superm1> lorenzo1985, it's all set up in /etc/lirc/hardware.conf
[19:14] <superm1> set up the second instance as a transmitter
[19:14] <superm1> and the init script handles the rest
[19:15] <lorenzo1985> The second instance is just a
[19:15] <lorenzo1985> another reciever, i want to connect the two together
[19:18] <lorenzo19851> Like so:
[19:18] <lorenzo19851> /usr/sbin/lircd --output=/var/run/lirc/lircd --driver=devinput --device=/dev/input/event5 --pidfile=/var/run/lirc/lircd1.pid --listen=8765 /usr/sbin/lircd --output=/var/run/lirc/lircd --driver=devinput --device=/dev/input/event6 --connect=localhost 8765
[19:19] <lorenzo19851> posibly a third instance too
[20:04] <superm1> lorenzo19851, that's what the logic does currently
[20:04] <superm1> just configure it in the transmitter section even though it's not a transmitter
[20:17] <MythbuntuGuest55> getting a blue screen when playing videos,  from desktop using mplayer changing  the driver to x11 works fine.  Changed player line in config to "-vo x11" and still get blue screen.  How does one correct this? It just started when I upgraded from 8.x to current.  Clean install did not fix
[20:28] <superm1> sounds like you dont have a lot of vram possibly
[20:30] <tgm4883> !dailies
[20:30] <Zinn> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/mythbuntu/daily-live/current/
 how do I verify?
[20:37] <Wicked> hello all. I installed 9.10 but cant seem to get my pvr-150 to work
[20:37] <Wicked> all im getting from /dev/video0 now is black static
[20:38] <Wicked> also the ir blaster wont work as it cant find the lirc_pvr150 module
[20:38] <Wicked> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1294825
[20:40] <superm1> MythbuntuGuest55, well are you using an integrated video card?
[20:41] <superm1> if so, check for a bios setting to increase vram
[20:41] <superm1> if there isn't one, there is something an X setting, depending on the driver
[20:41] <Wicked> ok some more googleing and i found i needed to switch the input from the composite input to the svideo input....so now i got video from the tuner...but my blaster cannot change the channel on my stb..so it cant record anything :(
[20:47] <MythbuntuGuest55> superml,  intel 82865g
[20:48] <MythbuntuGuest55> yes it is integrated
[20:48] <MythbuntuGuest55> I have tried http://www.mythtvtalk.com/forum/installation-issues/11939-blank-blue-screen.html to no avail
[20:51] <superm1> i would recommend adding a discrete card to the system if yo can
[20:55] <MythbuntuGuest55> unfortunately it is a small form-factor dell with no slots
[20:56] <Wicked> anyone have any ideas how i can get my ir blaster working in 9.10?
[20:58] <MythbuntuGuest55> superml, does it help that I can get it to work under desktop, but when launched from myth it displays blue screen with audio?
[20:59] <superm1> Wicked, lirc_i2c and lirc_pvr150 are both broke for 9.10
[20:59] <superm1> it's a bigger problem than just he lirc modules
[20:59] <superm1> some i2c infrastructure broke in 2.6.31
[20:59] <Wicked> crap
[20:59] <Wicked> so absolutely no way i can use a blaster on 9.10?
[20:59] <superm1> MythbuntuGuest55, no, go check the vram stuff i said.  you're only options are gonna be bumping up that vram if you can find a setting, or finding a way to get the discrete card in the box
[21:00] <Wicked> if thats the case im gonna have to stick with 9.04
[21:00] <superm1> Wicked, well there is some efforts to get it working, but i dont think it's complete
[21:00] <superm1> check with j-rod in #lirc to see where he's at
[21:01] <Wicked> damn. i friggin hate when distros are released and old hardware that used to work flawlessly breaks
[21:01] <Zinn> Wicked: Please watch your language.
[21:01] <Wicked> sorry
[21:01] <Wicked> ok superm1
[21:01] <superm1> problem is that no one tested the i2c stuff early enough i believe
[21:02] <superm1> another solution can be to switch to a mceusb2 for blasting
[21:02] <superm1> or a serial
[21:03] <Wicked> i only have this one pvr150 and its my single ir receiver/blaster
[21:04] <Wicked> i wish i had known about this before installing 9.10..but i guess it serves me right....not fully doing my homework
[21:04] <Wicked> guess i just assumed since it was one of the best supported cards in linux...it would stay that way
[21:05] <superm1> well everything else about it is well supported
[21:06] <Wicked> yea.
[21:06] <Wicked> i can still capture video off the card...but it cant blast....which for me is a total deal killer.
[21:06] <Wicked> no blast = no recordings