[00:45] <jpds> pleia2: Thanks for letting me know, prodded it.
[00:45] <jpds> pleia2: Running: sudo -u jpds ~jpds/start_bot - should wake the bot up too.
[00:45] <pleia2> jpds: yeah, I don't want to do it without you in case it goes nutty and eats freenode or something :)
[01:06] <LjL> hi
[01:06] <LjL> !paste
[01:06] <LjL> !pastebin
[01:07] <LjL> these seem to have become a bit of a mess. they used to be aliased, and, erm, i guess slightly shorter
[01:07] <LjL> also, i thought the bot wasn't using the "|" notation anywhere these days
[05:55] <jussi01> !-paste
[05:56] <jussi01> !-pastebin
[05:56]  * jussi01 slaps elky and Seeker`...
[05:57] <elky> excuse? 2006-06-17 trumps 2006-06-24
[05:57] <jussi01> elky: look at your edit date?
[05:58] <elky> yes, and if i recall, i was just doing an edit ikonia suggested.
[05:58] <jussi01> !ops | this is a reminder, please take extra care when editing factoids! Pretty much the whole IRC community relies on them and we need to make sure they are of high quality
[05:58] <Flannel> haha
[05:58] <jussi01> elky: still, if you edit, it becomes your respoonsibility.
[05:59] <jussi01> Flannel: ??
[05:59] <elky> jussi01, how about you find out who broke the aliasing, before throwing your weight around like this.
[06:00] <Flannel> jussi01: I was trying to figure out why I wasn't highlighted with the ops call--was cutoff
[06:00]  * Amaranth makes a note to put himself at the bottom of the list ;)
[06:01] <Amaranth> Also, it seems to be somewhat out of date
[06:01] <Amaranth> hmm, or not
[06:01] <Amaranth> I thought Hobbsee was not doing ops for #ubuntu anymore
[06:02] <jussi01> Amaranth: she's on the access list still...
[06:03] <Amaranth> Right, thus the confusion
[06:03] <elky> i dont even know who CarlK is...
[06:03] <Flannel> Amaranth: the factoid isn't very channel specific
[06:12] <mneptok> jussi01: oy
[06:12]  * jussi01 bites mneptok
[06:12] <mneptok> jussi01: need to coordinate the open week thang
[06:13] <jussi01> mneptok: yup.
[06:13] <jussi01> mneptok: soo, how you want to do this?
[06:13] <mneptok> jussi01: i'm thinking 5 minute intro. 20 minutes "this is how you use IRC" and 20m "this is proper etiquette." 15m of q&a.
[06:14] <jussi01> mneptok: could work, though we are likely to get lots of q&a
[06:14] <mneptok> alternative idea?
[06:15] <jussi01> 5, 15, 15, 25?
[06:16] <mneptok> jussi01: i think the more effort we put into content the fewer the questions.
[06:16] <jussi01> mneptok: true
[06:18] <Flannel> mneptok, jussi01: from experience, type it out beforehand and then just copy/paste (at a regular typing rate) during the session
[06:19]  * Flannel had bad experiences when paired up with someone in the past.
[06:19] <mneptok> Flannel: thanks. done this before. :)
[06:26] <elky> one UOW session i ran, i think in the second one, the person running the UW session got trapped in traffic and i ended up having to wing it. that was adrenaline...
[06:27] <mneptok> UW = Ubuntu Women?
[06:29] <Flannel> elky: My partner went way overtime, so I ended up with 10 minutes to cover 25 minutes of info, plus questions.  Wasn't fun.
[06:45] <mneptok> elky: know where i could find a decent slot machine simulator in Perl?
[06:47] <elky> mneptok, i know where you can find an atrocious one. if you're looking for quality, i cant help.
[06:47] <maco> hahaha
[06:47] <mneptok> elky: talk to skud. cleanup is underway. :)
[06:48] <maco> she knows
[06:48] <elky> mneptok, yea. check the logs for ponyland.
[06:49] <mneptok> elky: apparently source size is cut by 75% just by if/else streamlining
[06:49] <maco> holy crap
[06:50]  * mneptok exaggerates. but only slightly.
[06:52] <elky> mneptok, yeah, all the worlds elifs
[06:52] <mneptok> the only thing that sucks about GeekFem cleaning it up is now i'm beginning to believe, "women don't make important code contributions"
[06:52] <mneptok> ;)
[06:52] <mneptok> IOW, "for the love of sweet Jebus, go work on something worthwhile!"
[06:53]  * elky raises an eyebrow.
[06:53] <mneptok> 'cause his sh*t ain't
[06:53] <mneptok> it's amazing he rants about contributions, and his one app is SUCH total garbage.
[06:55] <maco> pwning him isnt worthwhile?
[06:56] <mneptok> oh, it is. for a few reasons.
[06:56] <mneptok> but watching talent wasted on fixing his stuff is painful at the same time.
[06:57] <elky> mneptok, enough. please stop.
[06:57] <mneptok> elky: hmm?
[06:57] <maco> she already knows dude
[06:57] <maco> she's involved with it
[06:57] <elky> mneptok, you cant hear how patronising you're sounding.
[06:58] <mneptok> elky: perhaps it's more your ears than my tone.
[06:58] <mneptok> *shrug*
[06:58] <elky> mneptok, perhaps its what you're saying, not the tone.
[06:59] <elky> mneptok, as i said, actually look at the commit logs for ponyland.
[06:59] <mneptok> elky: already been done.
[06:59] <elky> and stop telling us to "do something worthwhile".
[07:00] <mneptok> elky: it;s meant in jest. and more a comment about the horrid and worthless nature of his code.
[07:10] <elky> mneptok, you're not helping anything and you're not amusing either of us.
[07:13] <mneptok> elky: well, i thought you'd understand my sarcasm directed squarely at Mikee. knowing you don't, i will be much less inclined to attempt humor in your presence again.
[07:14] <elky> mneptok, your sarcasm in telling me to "talk to skud" is aimed at mikee?
[07:14] <mneptok> elky: it sounded from what you said that you were unaware that people were actively fixing stuff.
[07:15] <elky> mneptok, i am in the commit log for pony land. you say you checked there. what would make you think i was unaware given this?
[07:16] <mneptok> elky: i didn't review line-by-line. i was hsown some funny pieces over a dinner last week.
[07:16] <mneptok> *shown
[07:16] <jussi01> maco: I wonder how long itll last...
[07:17] <tonyyarusso> Um, elky?  Just coming in an reading that screen of scrollback thirdhand it looks clear to me what mneptok meant, and it was fine...
[07:17] <elky> tonyyarusso, <mneptok> elky: talk to skud. cleanup is underway. :)
 she knows
 mneptok, yea. check the logs for ponyland.
[07:18]  * Tm_T huggles everyone
[07:18] <mneptok> elky: you can choose to read it as "he's not aware i'm owrking on it, i'll tell him and share a laugh" or choose to read it in the most negative way possible and land on me like a ton of bricks. i would have *really* preferred the former.
[07:18] <jussi01> possible incoming
[07:18] <Tm_T> yes, Tm_T, you too
[07:18] <CheapSexAndBooze> what the shit
[07:18] <Tm_T> CheapSexAndBooze: I'm not
[07:19] <elky> mneptok, i did tell you. all three times i mentioned ponyland's commit logs.
[07:19] <mneptok> CheapSexAndBooze: your language is not helping the already obvious problem with your nick.
[07:19] <CheapSexAndBooze> why  the fuck was i banned
[07:19] <tonyyarusso> That would probably be why.
[07:20] <mneptok> CheapSexAndBooze: those last 2 inputlines would probably be an indicator.
[07:20]  * Tm_T almost asked "how can we help you" but apparently it wasn't needed
[07:20] <CheapSexAndBooze> well shit nigga
[07:21] <mneptok> CheapSexAndBooze: anything else you need?
[07:21] <tonyyarusso> CheapSexAndBooze: I don't have to be subjected to reading that sort of thing - either make your case in a respectable fashion pronto or you can come back quite a bit later when you're more ready to.
[07:21] <CheapSexAndBooze> let me back up in this bitch and we will see if i can change
[07:21] <mneptok> CheapSexAndBooze: let's not, hmm?
[07:22] <kniggit> how bout now
[07:23] <kniggit> how bout now
[07:24] <tonyyarusso> Geez, it's extra special kind of stupid tonight...
[07:25] <kniggit> you mean im not banned any more?
[07:25] <mneptok> not at the moment.
[07:25] <mneptok> (well, in this channel)
[07:25] <kniggit> cool
[07:26] <kniggit> im sorry
[07:26] <elky> that would be subject to how you behave.
[07:26] <mneptok> kniggit: that's a good start,
[07:26] <kniggit> can i go in the other channels now
[07:27] <mneptok> i'm afraid not.
[07:27] <mneptok> after some of your behavior, a quick "i'm sorry" is not going to get you unbanned.
[07:27] <kniggit> i will be good i promise
[07:27] <kniggit> please
[07:27] <mneptok> !coc
[07:27] <mneptok> please read that
[07:28] <kniggit> i already have
[07:28] <kniggit> it just didnt register untill now
[07:29] <kniggit> hello
[07:29] <elky> ok, so which part of it did you break to get banned?
[07:29] <mneptok> kniggit: it's 00:30 for you. how about you sleep on it?
[07:29] <kniggit> but i just woke up
[07:30] <kniggit> like an hour ago
[07:30] <mneptok> at 12:30am
[07:30] <kniggit> yea
[07:30] <mneptok> well, even better. instead of sleeping, you can actually think about it.
[07:31] <mneptok> think about what you called jussi01, and why that's inappropriate *anywhere*
[07:31] <kniggit> i will be good
[07:31] <kniggit> please
[07:31] <mneptok> i'm not going to unban you.
[07:31] <kniggit> why
[07:31] <mneptok> but if jussi01 wants to, that's up to him
[07:32] <kniggit> it because im black huh?
[07:32] <jussi01> kniggit: how do we know that?
[07:33] <jussi01> kniggit: Please come back in 3 days and we can look at your ban again.
[07:33] <kniggit> didnt i just tell you that
[07:33] <kniggit> what three days
[07:33] <kniggit> for a five minute missunderstanding
[07:34] <mneptok> dholbach: heya
[07:34] <dholbach> hi mneptok
[07:35] <kniggit> thats a bit harsh dont you think
[07:35] <mneptok> dholbach: wie geht's?
[07:35] <kniggit> thats like burning down the house to get rid of termites
[07:35] <dholbach> mneptok: I'm a bit tired, but OK :)
[07:35] <dholbach> how about you?
[07:36] <jussi01> kniggit: 3 days isnt a real long time, however if you can show good participation in other ubuntu channels, then Im willing to look again tomorrow.
[07:36] <mneptok> dholbach: same. need bed soon. you need something from -ops? or just a visit?
[07:36] <jussi01> mneptok: I invited dholbach in to have a look at things
[07:36] <kniggit> ok which channels
[07:36] <dholbach> mneptok: just hanging out with the ops :)
[07:36] <mneptok> jussi01: ah, OK
[07:37] <jussi01> kniggit: you are welcome without the swearing and attitude in any of the ubuntu channels.
[07:37] <jussi01> kniggit: you just need to follow the channel guidelines
[07:37] <mneptok> dholbach: there are 2 day old cookies under tonyyarusso's sofa cushion. help yourself.
[07:37] <jussi01> !guidelines | kniggit
[07:37] <kniggit> really you mean it
[07:37] <kniggit> im un banned
[07:38]  * tonyyarusso wonders how mneptok's been getting in
[07:38] <jussi01> kniggit: I mean we can look at your #ubuntu-offtopic ban tomorrow, and you are welcome in other places now if you can behave.
[07:38] <mneptok> kniggit: and that means staying on-topic in the channels you choose to use.
[07:39] <mneptok> kniggit: for instance, #ubuntu is a support channel.
[07:39] <dholbach> mneptok: awesomw
[07:39] <kniggit> you CUNT FAG JEW NIGGER CHINK
[07:39] <maco> interesting combination
[07:40] <mneptok> charming!
[07:40] <kniggit> tyou suck
[07:40] <jussi01> kniggit: your ban just got longer.
[07:40] <mneptok> kniggit: if you really are black, i find your use of the word "nigger" as a pejorative somewhat confusing.
[07:40] <jussi01> kniggit: is there something else we can help you with?
[07:41] <kniggit> oh fuck your mother in her fucking fat loose wrinkley cunt
[07:41] <elky> le sigh.
[07:42] <Tm_T> kids <3
[07:42] <mneptok> i'm going out for a smoke and to weep for humanity.
[07:44] <Tm_T> mneptok: <1 year old daughter does give some perspective, I can tell (though didn't do much for me, as I'm very well familiar with human life in it's whole agespan)
[07:46] <elky> he's now stalking jussi01 across the channels. yay.
[07:46] <jussi01> He really has it in for me doesnt he.
[07:47] <Tm_T> jussi01: you have a fan, let's hope it cools enough
[07:48] <jussi01> Tm_T: hehe, yeah.
[07:50] <Tm_T> I haven't been able to do any administration work in pretty much any channel in long time
[07:50] <jussi01> Tm_T: why is that?
[07:51] <Tm_T> weird, I'd say, prolly people behave when I'm around
[07:51] <Tm_T> or someone else is faster than me
[07:51]  * jussi01 hands Tm_T some scripts
[07:52] <Tm_T> jussi01: won't help if it takes minute or two to me to realise someone have been misbehaving (:
[07:53] <Tm_T>  /j #kopete
[07:53] <Tm_T> ... I love unstable wlan
[07:57] <jussi01> Tm_T: so youll be here what time sunday?
[07:57] <jussi01> and which place you stayin?
[07:59] <Tm_T> we'll be there on saturday, I heard, but not sure what time then, I'll ask what hotel
[09:19] <indus> hi
[09:19] <indus> no nvm
[13:34] <ubot3> In ubot3, Pici said: no isitout is <reply> No! Its not out yet!
[13:37] <Pici> nalioth: Could you take a look at that factoid request? ^
[13:38]  * nalioth looks
[13:39] <nalioth> what about it?
[13:39] <Pici> nalioth: Well, ubot3 is in #ubuntu-release-party, and !isitout is saying that well, its out. And I don't seem to have access to modify factoids, or I forgot how to login to the bot.
[13:40] <nalioth> Pici: you modify factoids with ubottu
[13:40] <nalioth> the ubottu db is synced hourly with ubot3
[13:40] <nalioth> otherwise, we'd have  9 different bots with 9 different factoid sets
[13:41] <Pici> nalioth: Are you sure? I modified !isitout yesterday
[13:41] <nalioth> please modify factoids with ubottu
[13:44] <Pici> nalioth: I do. And will continue to.  I think that ubot3 is not syncing though.
[13:44] <Pici> It was silly to suggest a factoid change with ubot3, since I do know that they should get synced.  I'll blame it on caffeine deficiency today.
[13:45] <Pici> I added !mirrorstatus on Oct 7th and its not on ubot3
[13:46] <nalioth> ubottu: isitout
[13:46] <nalioth> hmm
[13:51] <nalioth> Pici: there ya go
[13:51] <Pici> nalioth: Thanks
[13:51] <nalioth> these bots aren't designed to stay up a long time
[13:51] <nalioth> :(
[13:52] <nalioth> they start going senile after a couple weeks :P
[13:52] <Pici> :/
[13:53] <nalioth> maybe i should set a cronjob to kill&restart it every 2 weeks. . .
[13:54] <Tm_T>   ye
[14:12] <Pici> !karmic
[14:21] <Pici> argh, stupid topic lengths
[14:21] <bazhang> heh
[14:21] <bazhang> more mysterious that way
[14:50] <bazhang> hi LjL  :)
[14:52] <LjL> hi bazhang
[14:52] <LjL> nothing to report, i just had this in the joined list from yesterday
[16:31] <DJones> Looks like there might be a troll in #ubuntu Trolly123 sounds like the Der_Trolly that was around last week
[16:39] <Pici> It sure makes finding the trolls easier when they label themselves like that.
[16:39] <Pici> DJones: Thanks for the heads up though, as always :)
[16:48] <Pici> ugh
[16:48] <Pici> banlist is full
[16:48] <Pici> !ops | Please clean out your old bans
[16:49] <Amaranth> afaik I don't have any
[16:49] <Amaranth> If I do feel free to clear them all out
[16:49] <Pici> Amaranth: Then disregard ;)
[16:53]  * Amaranth stabs mIRC
[16:53] <Amaranth> Why make it a one-liner to automatically flood the channel?
[16:53]  * Mamarok wonders why she is not in that list
[16:57] <jussi01> Mamarok: are you an op in #ubuntu ;)
[16:57] <Mamarok> no, I avoid that channel :)
[16:57] <Mamarok> soince I can't help with Gnome, never use it
[16:57] <Mamarok> since*
[16:58] <Tm_T> Mamarok: I'm there, isn't that reason enough?
[16:58] <jussi01> well that would be why you arent on the list then...
[16:59] <Mamarok> got that
[16:59] <Mamarok> Tm_T: I see you elsewhere :)
[17:00] <Tm_T> noooooooo
[17:00]  * Tm_T hides
[17:00] <Mamarok> you can't hide long :)
[17:00] <Tm_T> I have plenty of mushrooms growing int this cave
[17:01] <jussi01> Amaranth: why use mirc? :P
[17:01] <Amaranth> jussi01: I'm not using it, some of our trolls are
[17:01] <Mamarok> Tm_T: I can smell you, then :)
[17:02] <Tm_T> Mamarok: true that, beautiful odour of me
[17:04]  * Mamarok was talking about the mushrooms
[18:58] <Pici> #ubuntu already getting busy
[18:59] <tonyyarusso> lil bit
[19:07] <Pici> Amaranth: ping.  Can you comment on emerald if you haev a moment?
[19:07] <Amaranth> eh?
[19:07] <Amaranth> If it breaks you get to keep both pieces
[19:08] <Pici> Amaranth: I'm just curious why its in the repositories if its broken
[19:08] <tonyyarusso> We've been over this - don't make me laugh in class!
[19:08] <Pici> tonyyarusso: :P
[19:08] <Amaranth> Pici: Broken how? It works (at least enough to run it with the stock theme) for me
[19:08] <Pici> !emerad
[19:08] <Pici> !emerald
[19:09] <Amaranth> But it is pretty much unsupported
[19:09] <Amaranth> Look at the last sentence
[19:09] <Tm_T> known alternatives, but they are not mentioned there, sillyness
[19:09] <Pici> Amaranth: Oh, I see it, just wanted to check with you again.  Some guy in +1 just getting annoying with the emerald questions.
[19:09] <Amaranth> Tm_T: There are no alternatives to the features emerald provides
[19:10] <Tm_T> oh, I misread it
[19:10]  * Tm_T hides
[19:13] <Pici> Amaranth: I didn't mean to ping you to have you address it in +1. Just wanted to check with a dev with the emerald status.
[19:16] <Amaranth> eh, this works too :)
[20:17] <Tm_T> jpds: all yours
[20:19] <jpds> He was connection from Clueless and Witless.
[20:19] <jpds> connecting*
[21:16] <tonyyarusso> @login
[21:17] <tonyyarusso> no, isitout is <reply> No! Its not out yet! Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party, and be sure to read channel /topic!
[21:17] <jussi01> !isitout
[21:18] <tonyyarusso> what the hey
[21:18] <jussi01> tonyyarusso: you forgot the !
[21:18] <tonyyarusso> no, !isitout is <reply> No! Its not out yet! Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party, and be sure to read channel /topic!
[21:18] <Tm_T> heh
[21:18] <jussi01> sigh
[21:18] <Tm_T> tonyyarusso: you mean !no, ...
[21:18] <jussi01> tonyyarusso: ! makes the bot listen to you...
[21:18] <tonyyarusso> oh'
[21:19] <tonyyarusso> durrrrrrr
[21:19] <Tm_T> jussi01: beat me to it
[21:19] <tonyyarusso> actually, I apparently want a chan-specific anyway
[21:19] <Tm_T> why?
[21:19] <jussi01> tonyyarusso: why chan specific?
[21:19] <jussi01> hehe
[21:19] <tonyyarusso> because for some reason the existing one is?
[21:19] <tonyyarusso> !isitout-#ubuntu
[21:19] <tonyyarusso> Seems backwards though
[21:20] <tonyyarusso> -r-p should have the specific one.
[21:20] <jussi01> !forget isitout-#ubuntu
[21:20] <jussi01> sorted :)
[21:20] <tonyyarusso> !isitout is <reply> No! Its not out yet! Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party, and be sure to read channel /topic!
[21:20] <tonyyarusso> !no, isitout is <reply> No! Its not out yet! Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party, and be sure to read channel /topic!
[21:21] <jussi01> :)
[21:21] <tonyyarusso> !isitout-#ubuntu-release-party is <reply> No!  It's not out yet!  Every time you ask, Mark Shuttleworth delays the release another 15 minutes.
[21:21] <tonyyarusso> !no, isitout is <reply> No! It's not out yet! Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party, and be sure to read channel /topic!
[21:21] <tonyyarusso> punctuation good
[21:38] <jussi01> Peoples, if you have bugs/features you want to see in the bot, please make sure they are on LP! We plan to have a look at them while at UDS.
[21:40]  * niko commited some minutes ago http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-fr/ubuntu-bots/ubotufr/revision/40/ChannelManager/plugin.py#ChannelManager/plugin.py 
[21:41] <jussi01> niko: what does that do?
[21:42] <jussi01> niko: but also, bugs are needed
[21:42] <jpds> jussi01: 1) Use PostgreSQL for the database backend.
[21:42] <niko> bantracker, antiflood,channel notice,mass highlight,anti repeat, ban tracker, regexp support @ any action
[21:42] <niko> and stuff like that
[21:42] <jussi01> oh, you guys have the bot there as a floodbot etc
[21:43] <jussi01> jpds: on lp please!!!
[21:43] <niko> jussi01: yes uBOTu-fr runs for years in #ubuntu-fr* and #ubuntu-es
[21:43] <niko> the plugin is used in others channels too
[21:45] <ikonia> hows the ban list ?
[21:45] <Tm_T> what is this nazi talk in offtopic ?
[21:46] <ikonia> not noticed
[21:47] <Tm_T> well I did, it's on my hilight list
[21:47] <Tm_T> Atomicspark and this X8something (:
[21:47]  * ikonia follows now
[21:47] <ikonia> yes, just saw atomicspark
[21:53] <ikonia> council members - please be aware of bucky's comments as no doubt he's now appealing in #ubuntu-irc-council
[21:55] <ikonia> bucky now hitting other channels with rude behaviour
[21:56] <ikonia> that's #ubuntu / #ubuntu-offtopic / #ubuntu+1 now
[21:56] <ikonia> now trolling -release party
[21:56] <ikonia> can someone wearing a members cloak deal with it ?
[21:57] <ikonia> Tm_T: you're cloaked and active
[21:58] <ikonia> I suggest someone also be ready in #ubuntu-devel
[21:59] <nhandler> ikonia: He looks fine in -release-party right now. If he gets out of hand, feel free to ping me
[21:59] <ikonia> nhandler: his comment of calling me a shit head was not fine
[21:59] <ikonia> his trolling of all #ubuntu channels is not acceptable
[22:01] <Tm_T> ikonia: sorry I'm bit distracted here
[22:01] <nhandler> I can talk to him ikonia, but besides the one comment in -release-party, he hasn't done much there. I'm not going to ban him from that channel simply for what he did in the other channels. I'll leave that up to either the IRC Council or a member of the OPs team
[22:02] <ikonia> it's fine he's just hit #ubuntu-uk
[22:02] <ikonia> he's doing it on purpose - feel free to talk to him
[22:02] <nhandler> I'll send him a PM
[22:03] <ikonia> he didn't respond when I tried to explain to him, so good luck
[22:09] <nhandler> ikonia: Do you have the IRC logs from -offtopic ? It appears I am not in there
[22:10] <ikonia> sur
[22:10] <ikonia> sure
[22:11] <ikonia> http://pastebin.com/m55de5f10
[22:11] <ikonia> that's what got him banned
[22:11] <ikonia> there was a warning about the topic before that - but just general to the channel
[22:44] <ikonia> can someone with a member cloak please remove bucky from -release-party, I 'm tired of being abused
[22:46] <ikonia> he's gone
[22:50] <Tm_T> sorry I didn't realise he's there too
[22:50] <ikonia> all fine
[23:49] <Seeker`> can someone have a look at luigired in #u?
[23:50] <Seeker`> too late