cdoublejjis it true xubuntu isn't supported by Canonical any more?06:58
steven_Can someone please help me install Xubuntu via Virtualbox?07:03
steven_I get the following message:  This kernel requireds an x86-64 CPU, but only detected an i686 CPU.  Unable to boot - please use a kernel appropriate for your CPU.  I have Intel Core 2 Duo.  What is going on?07:04
chunknutsanybody here?08:35
psycho_oreos!ask | chunknuts08:37
ubottuchunknuts: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)08:37
chunknutshas anybody used the 9.10 RC cd?08:38
chunknutsit's not working08:39
chunknuts"cannot find live filesystem"08:39
Sysifinal release will be published tomorrow08:39
chunknutsso is this a bug with RC?08:40
Balsaqyou _Techie_09:09
danutzmileahello! i've installed oss4 cause alsa was making a hissy noise but now i've got no sound. i ran osstest and works great, but when i try listening to an mp3 or something it doesn't work no matter what app i use. (yes, i've got the gstreamer codec pack) can anyone help?10:56
Sysihave you set system to use oss? and apps10:58
danutzmileahow do i do that?10:58
danutzmileafrom the mixer thingie?10:58
danutzmileaif so, i did.. oss4 bla bla bla via 83 bla bla... yes10:59
danutzmileait's selected10:59
danutzmileaall the volume knobs there are set to about 90-100%10:59
danutzmileaalso.. runing ossmix doesn't show me that green.jack.mute thing.. :-??.. i saw this on a forum11:00
danutzmileai installed oss4 using the deb and that archive manager gizmo11:01
syriuspirated edition11:12
ochosihey everyone, i was wondering whether there's an easy way to make xfce4-powermanager use notify-osd's icons ..?11:34
Balsaqcan i install xubuntu from the hard disk right over ubuntu and do a clean install?11:53
Balsaqcan anyone explain how to change my desktop from ubuntu to xubuntu? and will that have the same effect as installing xubuntu?12:07
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about switchtoxubuntu12:08
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about installxubuntu12:08
ubottuXubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of !GNOME. More info at http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !Ubuntu and !Xubuntu-Channels12:08
tennisblueskaj - i unchecked the box for nepomuk semantic desktop and restarted the computer.  unfortunately the fan continuously runs.  any other suggestions or ideas?16:23
dpjust upgraded to Karmic; using Kopete, the font sizes within are *really* small.  this is also affecting kwallet, which implies a KDE specific problem.  where should I look to fix this?17:04
likemindeadKubuntu? ;-)17:05
dpI'm actually running xubuntu though17:05
likemindeadAre you running these problems in Xubuntu, dp?17:05
charlie-tcakopete and kwallet are kubuntu17:05
dpok.  will ask there then.  thanks17:05
likemindeadI avoid KDE/Qt stuff as much as possible, sorry.17:05
likemindeadOh. :-=\17:06
Sysithere are good programs for kde17:06
Sysiquassel is, kolourpaint17:06
charlie-tcaYes, but very little help for them available in xubuntu17:06
likemindeadOh, I know. I just don't need or use any of them. And my machines are ghetto old, so I avoid bloating them with further KDE/Qt stuff.17:06
likemindeadI ran Kubuntu for almost a year, just didn't like it.17:07
likemindeadFor me it's Openbox>Xfce>GNOME. :-)17:07
Sysii have kde in this17:07
Sysixfce ♥17:07
likemindeadI love Xubuntu, CrunchBang, & Linux Mint all. I <3 variety.17:08
Sysii only can use xfce well enough to get what i want17:08
Sysior they are easiest in this17:09
Sysiwithout certain things fedora with xfce would may be better than xubuntu17:09
Sysithey made same mistakes in karmic that in fedora already earlier :/17:10
Sysiit's snappier, like fedora, but still..17:12
likemindeadI've been using Xubuntu 9.10 since Alpha 6 with no real problems. Loving it. So fast!17:12
Sysibut try xdmcp17:13
Sysior just modify login screen17:13
likemindeadI have mine set to auto-login. :-\17:13
* Aquina provides everything for testing KK ;-)17:39
charlie-tcaWe are testing those images in #ubuntu-testing right now17:40
charlie-tcaXubuntu desktop-386 will be rebuilt again, but the others are done17:40
Aquinaok so i should stop the i386 desktop donload (19 min remaining)?17:48
Aquinaerr 10 min.17:48
charlie-tcano, the part failing is pae17:48
charlie-tcabug 46269217:49
Aquinaoh the test machine does not support pae its an old AMD Athlon XP 2000+ (Again the image I download is 1d2d46d80dfcc72a0a659d3069d8827b *karmic-desktop-i386.iso17:49
charlie-tcaShould be okay then17:49
AquinaOk I continue and will provide you with a report ASA.17:49
AquinaRegarding https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Bug-Report-Layout --> Wehe do you want us to send this to (Launchpad, eMail, IRC)?17:51
charlie-tcaJust use it to fill out a bug report in launchpad if you don't us apport17:51
charlie-tcaIt makes sure you get enough info in17:51
Aquinaok I see ;-)17:52
charlie-tcaI copy and paste it into the bug report17:52
nicklas_its hard to wait :-P18:11
_Pete_someone using FF3.5 / facebook and having chat-popup-problem as me?18:30
mozicodo_Pete_: I had a small one-line box floating on top of Facebook when I was using it last night but I don't use chat through the browser.18:36
Ichhello, i have xubuntu on my netbook and now the bars at the top and bottom of the screen no longer show up when i log in18:56
Sysialt + f2 "xfce4-panel"18:57
charlie-tcaAquina: how's it working for you?19:03
TFGHello, anyone around that can maybe help me with an issue with an older release of Xubuntu?19:14
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)19:14
TFGok, thanks19:15
charlie-tcaMany of us are monitoring the channel, but are also doing other things. When we see the question, we know if we can answer it19:16
Sysii think ubottu said it pretty well19:17
TFGI am on the 6.10 release, I am trying to upgrade to the newer version but this current version seems to have some issues with downloading what I need, I encounter a 404 error though am connected to the net. It also does not seem to detect the CD drive.19:17
charlie-tcainfo 6.1019:17
Sysirepositories are closed at least19:18
charlie-tcaXubuntu did not have a 6.10, but give me a minute.19:19
Sysi6.06 betterly?19:19
pteagueX crashed on me so i logged in remotely & stopped gdm, but the monitor is still displaying what it had when X started eating 100% cpu...  any ideas on restarting the display besides rebooting?19:19
TFGThe detection thing on I think the Ubuntu site stated it as 6.10, but in the "about" on this machine it is listed as 6.0619:19
ubottuUbuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) was the fifth release of Ubuntu. End Of Life: April 25th, 2008. See !eol for more details.19:20
charlie-tca6.06 was our first one, then we went to 7.0419:20
charlie-tcaThat's what I was looking for. Thanks, Sysi19:20
Sysilet's check..19:21
ubottuUbuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) was the fourth release of Ubuntu. Desktop support ended on July 14th 2009, Server support will end in June 2011. See !upgrade for upgrade instructions19:21
Sysiubottu isn't xubuntu specified :/19:21
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)19:21
charlie-tcaBecause it is EOL19:21
ubottuEnd-Of-Life is the time when security updates for an Ubuntu release stop. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases19:21
TFGWould it help any if I copied the exact terminology of the error I get?19:23
TFGI am new to Ubuntu products so am learning, or trying to learn as it were19:23
Sysiso what you're doing actually?19:24
charlie-tcaNo, the error is because 6.10 support ended.19:24
Sysifor updating clean install propably is easiest solution19:24
charlie-tcaIt is, Since you do have to upgrade through each release, and 6.10, 7.04, 7.10 are all EOL19:25
TFGThe only issue with that is that it does not DL what I need, clean install or updates19:26
charlie-tcaIt can't because the files are no longer there19:26
TFGeven for a fresh install of the newer version though?19:26
charlie-tcaAfter the release goes out of support life, the files are moved from the server19:26
charlie-tcanew version will be there, but 6.10 can't be updated for the new version because 7.04 is also end of support19:27
TFGI get what ya mean about that.19:27
charlie-tcaYou have to upgrade 6.10 to 7.04, 7.04 to 7.10, 7.10 to 8.0419:28
charlie-tcaThose first three are no longer available19:28
TFGSo just try to get a copy of the newest 9.04/9.10 and do a total new install, correct?19:29
charlie-tcaIf you don't want to upgrade often, you should use the LTS versions.19:29
charlie-tcaright now, yes.19:29
charlie-tca10.04 will be an LTS version, supported on the desktop for three years instead of 18 months19:30
TFGI'll see if I can get a copy through other means then, burn it to disk and bring back here19:30
TFGoh, interesting19:30
charlie-tcaEven if you get a copy of the old versions, they won't upgrade because the updates are not available.19:31
TFGyeah, I am talking about the newest version19:31
TFGskipping over the updates, but even the newest versions do not download19:32
Sysi9.10 will be released tomorrow19:32
charlie-tcayou could download it or even order it from the website19:32
Sysii recommend daily build19:33
TFGgoing to try to DL it at another computer, the disks won't ship for a little bit yet19:33
Sysithat's almost same as final version19:34
Sysibut network is less jammed today :)19:34
TFGThank you guys for the help, I'm sure I'll be back with more questions at some point.19:35
PenguinoSysi: That's almost same as final, but not the same as final :D20:02
PenguinoI think RC is too similar, but not same as final20:03
PenguinoArtwork is the best part ever :D20:03
Sysithere are maybe 5 updates for todays daily20:03
PenguinoAnd the complete artwork comes bundled with final, but meh20:03
PenguinoYes, maybe 5 updates20:03
PenguinoBut I can't download it today :(20:04
charlie-tcadaily should be download available. desktop is being rebuilt again20:05
charlie-tcadaily-live / desktop20:05
charlie-tcaGets a little rough sometimes when we are running tests the last day or two20:06
tux-capacitorHey i'm home from work because of surgery and have a semi-urgent quick question/problem20:40
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tux-capacitorall our work stuff cane be accessed using a windows 2003 terminal server, when i use the default installed client in xbuntu 9.04, i just get a black screen when i hit connect20:41
tux-capacitorno errors though20:42
tux-capacitoris there a better rdp client to use in xfce4 or what? because theres not many options in this one to screw up20:46
Besogontux-capacitor, I don't know but may be you should use Ulteo Open Virtual Desktop. It can works over Windows terminal at least.20:56
tux-capacitorill look into it thanks20:58
charlie-tcaAny testers out here? We just got the latest daily-live-386 image for testing.20:58
charlie-tcathis is for tomorrows release, so if you can help test it, we sure would thank you.20:59
BesogonIm trying to translate "man fonts-conf" I don't undestand what is there means with string "...for external agents" Agents are people or workers or applications?21:01
charlie-tcaI don't know. Could you ask in #xubuntu-devel ?21:03
TFGNewb question. Just downloaded Xubuntu 9.04, what command do I use to get it to install or what process do I use for installation. I will take a dummy slap if I should know better.21:03
charlie-tcaWhich cd?21:04
charlie-tcaAre you installing this on it's own drive?21:04
Bwyardis xubuntu 9.1 coming out tomorrow21:04
charlie-tcaBwyard: 9.10 is coming out. the 10 tells us the 10 th month of 200921:05
Bwyardoh ok21:05
Bwyardthats cool21:05
TFGHave not and am not able to burn it to CD currently, just have the download sitting on the desktop. Will be installing this on the main HD.21:05
Bwyardso its coming out tomorrow right21:05
TFGerm, main and only HD on this machine21:05
charlie-tcaBwyard: yes21:05
Bwyardok thanks21:05
charlie-tcaTFG: Want to burn it to CD, you have Ubuntu on that machine?21:06
TFGI know to install xchat it was a terminal command, just curious if there is one for this also.21:06
TFGI have 6.06 on this machine21:06
charlie-tcaThere is a command to burn it with terminal.21:07
TFG6.06 is not detecting the CD drives21:07
TFGso I have to forgo the burning to disk for now at least21:07
charlie-tcaEven if the gui doesn't detect them, the terminal should be able to burn it.21:08
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about cd21:08
tux-capacitorany RDP bugs fixed in 9.10 lol? i still can't get it to work, and my boss aint happy21:08
charlie-tcaTFG: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto21:09
TFGTY, charlie-tca.21:10
charlie-tcaYou are welcome21:10
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about rdp21:10
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about remote21:10
ubottuVNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX21:12
Besogoncharlie-tca, I'm always suprised how many sense a word has got. In Russian One word has got one sense. (21:16
charlie-tcayeah, English has too many for most of us native english speakers to keep track of21:16
tux-capacitortrue that21:18
charlie-tcatux-capacitor: does the FreeNX info help any?21:19
ubottuFreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX21:19
tux-capacitorlet me check that out, never heard of it21:19
charlie-tcaThere should be some other documentation on vnc, also, in the community documentation21:20
tux-capacitorwell i might try that21:21
tux-capacitorhave to add repos though21:21
charlie-tcaThat should get you some other remote desktop viewers.21:21
tux-capacitorodd , it's hanging on getting the key from keyserver.ubuntu.com21:28
charlie-tcabusy night for the servers21:28
tux-capacitoryeah it just came back with a time out21:28
charlie-tcanew release tomorrow, people get itchey tonite21:29
tux-capacitorwill i be able to just use synaptic to upgrade to 9.10 in xubuntu, like i've done in Ubuntu21:30
charlie-tcaAlthough it will be slow, too, tomorrow21:30
charlie-tcaJust testing, we seem to putting a load on the servers, since the cds are getting rebuilt so many times21:31
tux-capacitorwell i'm in no rush really, my main thing is getting some vnc going on this new laptop from work, it had Vista on it and it was god awful, slow and problems, epic boot times, now its fantastic with xubuntu, but i can't access our ts server21:32
tux-capacitorrdp* sorry not vnc21:32
charlie-tcardp is just the viewer end of vnc21:33
charlie-tcaShould be three or four available in the repositories21:33
tux-capacitoroh ? i thought it used a diff. protocol, i saw some others , will the gnome or kde ones work ok in xfce?21:33
charlie-tcaThey should, gnome will, kde sometimes gives a few issues21:34
tux-capacitorlemme give that a shot, i know ive gotten one of the gnome ones to work before21:35
tux-capacitorwhatever mint comes with21:36
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tux-capacitorgRDP - worked21:39
tux-capacitorawful color settings by default but i'm sure thats for speed21:40
charlie-tcaworks... - nice color... :-)21:40
charlie-tcagive and take, right21:40
tux-capacitorof course21:47
tux-capacitormostly used for E-mail, spread sheets, word, etc. , the only one really hit is doing network diagrams in visio21:48
tux-capacitorwell thanks for all the help, i managed to convince my manager to let me remote in for tomorrow, i'm sure i'll be back in here once i upgrade to 9.10 so catch ya then!22:30
charlie-tcaYou are welcome22:30
charlie-tcagood luck22:30
raevolhey guys, i am getting ready for upgrading to karmic tomorrow, and i had a question22:59
raevoli want to format my/ so i can use ext4, and also to get grub222:59
raevolbut i want to back up my /usr/local, which is currently on the same partition as /22:59
raevolcan i just copy that folder to a seperate partition, format, and then copy it back? also i plan to seperate /usr/local to another partition while i am formatting so i don't have to do this again23:00
raevolis that possible?23:00
charlie-tca/usr/local/bin and /usr/local/sbin change depending on what you have installed. If you overwrite them with your backup, I don't think that will be good.23:02
raevolwell, i have nothing in /usr/local/sbin, and the only things in /usr/local/bin is programs that are installed to /usr/local23:03
charlie-tcaYou need to be careful of what you overwrite after the installation23:03
raevolsee the only things that are in /usr/local are proprietary games that i have installed from disc23:04
raevolso i don't want to have to install them again :(23:04
raevolut2k4 for example is 6 cds worth of installing23:04
charlie-tcashould be okay then. As long as the games did not install parts anywhere else.23:04
raevolmight they have installed anything to /etc?23:05
raevoland if they did would it just be files that would be generated again?23:05
charlie-tcaHard to say. /etc is generally configuration files.23:05
raevolmy /home is a seperate partition already, so if there's only configurations there they will be preserved23:06
charlie-tcaYou normally know if it installed any there that you need to change. Otherwise, it should generate them again23:06
raevolhmm hmm23:06
raevoli guess it's worth trying23:07
charlie-tcaWorst that can happen is you have to install the games again, right?23:07
raevolwell a second question then23:08
raevoli currently have a second hard drive formatted with NTFS that i plan to format at some point into ext423:08
raevolit's currently mounted through the ntfs tool as /media/Vault23:09
raevolwhere would i mount it when it's not ntfs anymore?23:09
charlie-tcaNormally, you use it as ntfs so that windows can see it.23:09
raevolright, which is how i had it, but i never plan to use windows again, so...23:09
charlie-tcaIf windows doesn't need it, when you reformat it, you pick a directory name to use. For example, I have a separate drive partitioned ext4 as23:10
charlie-tcaI mount it as /home/Downloads23:10
raevoloh nice i see23:10
raevolwould it mount for every user there?23:11
raevolwait i guess not23:11
charlie-tcaAs long as every user has access to Downloads23:11
raevolis it /~/Downloads? so it's in your home folder?23:11
raevolor as a user itself?23:11
charlie-tcaIt's not in any user's /home23:11
charlie-tcait is a separate directory in /home23:12
charlie-tcaI mark it 77523:12
charlie-tcato give all users read, write, execute privileges to it23:13
raevoli see ok23:13
raevolso would putting it in /home be better than putting it in /mnt?23:13
raevolor /media again?23:13
charlie-tcaI tried using /mnt , but it is easier to have it in /home23:14
charlie-tcaIt is personnal choice.23:14
raevoli just feel then the system might see it as another user's home folder23:14
charlie-tcaNot as long as no user is named Downloads23:14
raevolah ok23:15
charlie-tcaI been doing that since 200623:15
charlie-tcaTime to go eat. good luck23:15
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zzhow do I set the system bell so when I backspace it errors if at begining of line?23:26
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ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about bell23:48

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