[06:58] <cdoublejj> is it true xubuntu isn't supported by Canonical any more?
[07:03] <steven_> Can someone please help me install Xubuntu via Virtualbox?
[07:04] <steven_> I get the following message:  This kernel requireds an x86-64 CPU, but only detected an i686 CPU.  Unable to boot - please use a kernel appropriate for your CPU.  I have Intel Core 2 Duo.  What is going on?
[08:35] <chunknuts> anybody here?
[08:37] <psycho_oreos> !ask | chunknuts
[08:38] <chunknuts> has anybody used the 9.10 RC cd?
[08:39] <chunknuts> it's not working
[08:39] <chunknuts> "cannot find live filesystem"
[08:39] <Sysi> final release will be published tomorrow
[08:40] <chunknuts> so is this a bug with RC?
[09:09] <Balsaq> you _Techie_
[09:09] <Balsaq> you=yo
[10:56] <danutzmilea> hello! i've installed oss4 cause alsa was making a hissy noise but now i've got no sound. i ran osstest and works great, but when i try listening to an mp3 or something it doesn't work no matter what app i use. (yes, i've got the gstreamer codec pack) can anyone help?
[10:58] <Sysi> have you set system to use oss? and apps
[10:58] <danutzmilea> how do i do that?
[10:58] <danutzmilea> from the mixer thingie?
[10:59] <Sysi> yup
[10:59] <danutzmilea> if so, i did.. oss4 bla bla bla via 83 bla bla... yes
[10:59] <danutzmilea> it's selected
[10:59] <danutzmilea> all the volume knobs there are set to about 90-100%
[11:00] <danutzmilea> also.. runing ossmix doesn't show me that green.jack.mute thing.. :-??.. i saw this on a forum
[11:01] <danutzmilea> i installed oss4 using the deb and that archive manager gizmo
[11:01] <danutzmilea> :-?
[11:12] <syrius> Sysi,
[11:12] <syrius> ubuntu
[11:12] <syrius> pirated edition
[11:12] <Sysi> ?
[11:34] <ochosi> hey everyone, i was wondering whether there's an easy way to make xfce4-powermanager use notify-osd's icons ..?
[11:53] <Balsaq> can i install xubuntu from the hard disk right over ubuntu and do a clean install?
[12:07] <Balsaq> can anyone explain how to change my desktop from ubuntu to xubuntu? and will that have the same effect as installing xubuntu?
[12:08] <Balsaq> !switchtoxubuntu
[12:08] <Balsaq> !installxubuntu
[12:08] <Balsaq> !xubuntu
[16:23] <tennis> blueskaj - i unchecked the box for nepomuk semantic desktop and restarted the computer.  unfortunately the fan continuously runs.  any other suggestions or ideas?
[17:04] <dp> just upgraded to Karmic; using Kopete, the font sizes within are *really* small.  this is also affecting kwallet, which implies a KDE specific problem.  where should I look to fix this?
[17:05] <likemindead> Kubuntu? ;-)
[17:05] <dp> I'm actually running xubuntu though
[17:05] <likemindead> Are you running these problems in Xubuntu, dp?
[17:05] <likemindead> Okya.
[17:05] <charlie-tca> kopete and kwallet are kubuntu
[17:05] <dp> ok.  will ask there then.  thanks
[17:05] <likemindead> I avoid KDE/Qt stuff as much as possible, sorry.
[17:06] <likemindead> Oh. :-=\
[17:06] <Sysi> there are good programs for kde
[17:06] <Sysi> quassel is, kolourpaint
[17:06] <charlie-tca> Yes, but very little help for them available in xubuntu
[17:06] <likemindead> Oh, I know. I just don't need or use any of them. And my machines are ghetto old, so I avoid bloating them with further KDE/Qt stuff.
[17:07] <likemindead> I ran Kubuntu for almost a year, just didn't like it.
[17:07] <likemindead> For me it's Openbox>Xfce>GNOME. :-)
[17:07] <Sysi> i have kde in this
[17:07] <Sysi> xfce ♥
[17:08] <likemindead> I love Xubuntu, CrunchBang, & Linux Mint all. I <3 variety.
[17:08] <likemindead> ;D
[17:08] <Sysi> i only can use xfce well enough to get what i want
[17:09] <Sysi> or they are easiest in this
[17:09] <Sysi> without certain things fedora with xfce would may be better than xubuntu
[17:10] <Sysi> they made same mistakes in karmic that in fedora already earlier :/
[17:12] <Sysi> it's snappier, like fedora, but still..
[17:12] <likemindead> I've been using Xubuntu 9.10 since Alpha 6 with no real problems. Loving it. So fast!
[17:13] <Sysi> but try xdmcp
[17:13] <Sysi> or just modify login screen
[17:13] <likemindead> I have mine set to auto-login. :-\
[17:39] <Aquina> 'lo
[17:39]  * Aquina provides everything for testing KK ;-)
[17:39] <charlie-tca> hello
[17:40] <charlie-tca> We are testing those images in #ubuntu-testing right now
[17:40] <charlie-tca> Xubuntu desktop-386 will be rebuilt again, but the others are done
[17:48] <Aquina> ok so i should stop the i386 desktop donload (19 min remaining)?
[17:48] <Aquina> err 10 min.
[17:48] <charlie-tca> no, the part failing is pae
[17:49] <charlie-tca> bug 462692
[17:49] <Aquina> oh the test machine does not support pae its an old AMD Athlon XP 2000+ (Again the image I download is 1d2d46d80dfcc72a0a659d3069d8827b *karmic-desktop-i386.iso
[17:49] <Aquina> )
[17:49] <charlie-tca> Should be okay then
[17:49] <Aquina> Ok I continue and will provide you with a report ASA.
[17:50] <charlie-tca> Thanks
[17:50] <Aquina> ASAP
[17:50] <Aquina> :-)
[17:51] <Aquina> Regarding https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Bug-Report-Layout --> Wehe do you want us to send this to (Launchpad, eMail, IRC)?
[17:51] <charlie-tca> Just use it to fill out a bug report in launchpad if you don't us apport
[17:51] <charlie-tca> It makes sure you get enough info in
[17:52] <Aquina> ok I see ;-)
[17:52] <charlie-tca> I copy and paste it into the bug report
[18:11] <nicklas_> its hard to wait :-P
[18:30] <_Pete_> someone using FF3.5 / facebook and having chat-popup-problem as me?
[18:36] <mozicodo> _Pete_: I had a small one-line box floating on top of Facebook when I was using it last night but I don't use chat through the browser.
[18:56] <Ich> hello, i have xubuntu on my netbook and now the bars at the top and bottom of the screen no longer show up when i log in
[18:57] <Sysi> alt + f2 "xfce4-panel"
[18:57] <Ich> splendid!
[18:57] <Ich> thanks
[19:03] <charlie-tca> Aquina: how's it working for you?
[19:14] <TFG> Hello, anyone around that can maybe help me with an issue with an older release of Xubuntu?
[19:14] <charlie-tca> !question
[19:15] <TFG> ok, thanks
[19:16] <charlie-tca> Many of us are monitoring the channel, but are also doing other things. When we see the question, we know if we can answer it
[19:17] <Sysi> i think ubottu said it pretty well
[19:17] <TFG> I am on the 6.10 release, I am trying to upgrade to the newer version but this current version seems to have some issues with downloading what I need, I encounter a 404 error though am connected to the net. It also does not seem to detect the CD drive.
[19:17] <charlie-tca> info 6.10
[19:18] <Sysi> repositories are closed at least
[19:19] <charlie-tca> Xubuntu did not have a 6.10, but give me a minute.
[19:19] <Sysi> 6.06 betterly?
[19:19] <pteague> X crashed on me so i logged in remotely & stopped gdm, but the monitor is still displaying what it had when X started eating 100% cpu...  any ideas on restarting the display besides rebooting?
[19:19] <TFG> The detection thing on I think the Ubuntu site stated it as 6.10, but in the "about" on this machine it is listed as 6.06
[19:20] <Sysi> !edgy
[19:20] <charlie-tca> 6.06 was our first one, then we went to 7.04
[19:20] <charlie-tca> That's what I was looking for. Thanks, Sysi
[19:21] <Sysi> let's check..
[19:21] <Sysi> !6.06
[19:21] <Sysi> ubottu isn't xubuntu specified :/
[19:21] <TFG> heh
[19:21] <charlie-tca> Because it is EOL
[19:21] <charlie-tca> !eol
[19:23] <TFG> Would it help any if I copied the exact terminology of the error I get?
[19:23] <TFG> I am new to Ubuntu products so am learning, or trying to learn as it were
[19:24] <Sysi> so what you're doing actually?
[19:24] <charlie-tca> No, the error is because 6.10 support ended.
[19:24] <Sysi> for updating clean install propably is easiest solution
[19:25] <charlie-tca> It is, Since you do have to upgrade through each release, and 6.10, 7.04, 7.10 are all EOL
[19:26] <TFG> The only issue with that is that it does not DL what I need, clean install or updates
[19:26] <charlie-tca> It can't because the files are no longer there
[19:26] <TFG> even for a fresh install of the newer version though?
[19:26] <charlie-tca> After the release goes out of support life, the files are moved from the server
[19:27] <charlie-tca> new version will be there, but 6.10 can't be updated for the new version because 7.04 is also end of support
[19:27] <TFG> I get what ya mean about that.
[19:28] <charlie-tca> You have to upgrade 6.10 to 7.04, 7.04 to 7.10, 7.10 to 8.04
[19:28] <charlie-tca> Those first three are no longer available
[19:29] <TFG> So just try to get a copy of the newest 9.04/9.10 and do a total new install, correct?
[19:29] <charlie-tca> If you don't want to upgrade often, you should use the LTS versions.
[19:29] <charlie-tca> right now, yes.
[19:30] <charlie-tca> 10.04 will be an LTS version, supported on the desktop for three years instead of 18 months
[19:30] <TFG> I'll see if I can get a copy through other means then, burn it to disk and bring back here
[19:30] <TFG> oh, interesting
[19:31] <charlie-tca> Even if you get a copy of the old versions, they won't upgrade because the updates are not available.
[19:31] <TFG> yeah, I am talking about the newest version
[19:32] <TFG> skipping over the updates, but even the newest versions do not download
[19:32] <Sysi> 9.10 will be released tomorrow
[19:32] <charlie-tca> you could download it or even order it from the website
[19:32] <charlie-tca> http://xubuntu.org/get
[19:33] <Sysi> i recommend daily build
[19:33] <TFG> going to try to DL it at another computer, the disks won't ship for a little bit yet
[19:33] <Sysi> http://cdimage.ubuntulinux.org/xubuntu/daily/current/
[19:34] <Sysi> that's almost same as final version
[19:34] <Sysi> but network is less jammed today :)
[19:35] <TFG> Thank you guys for the help, I'm sure I'll be back with more questions at some point.
[19:36] <charlie-tca> Anytime
[20:02] <Penguino> Sysi: That's almost same as final, but not the same as final :D
[20:03] <Penguino> I think RC is too similar, but not same as final
[20:03] <Penguino> Artwork is the best part ever :D
[20:03] <Sysi> there are maybe 5 updates for todays daily
[20:03] <Penguino> And the complete artwork comes bundled with final, but meh
[20:03] <Penguino> Yes, maybe 5 updates
[20:04] <Penguino> But I can't download it today :(
[20:05] <charlie-tca> daily should be download available. desktop is being rebuilt again
[20:05] <charlie-tca> daily-live / desktop
[20:05] <Penguino> Oh
[20:06] <charlie-tca> Gets a little rough sometimes when we are running tests the last day or two
[20:40] <tux-capacitor> Hey i'm home from work because of surgery and have a semi-urgent quick question/problem
[20:40] <Sysi> ask
[20:41] <tux-capacitor> all our work stuff cane be accessed using a windows 2003 terminal server, when i use the default installed client in xbuntu 9.04, i just get a black screen when i hit connect
[20:42] <tux-capacitor> no errors though
[20:46] <tux-capacitor> is there a better rdp client to use in xfce4 or what? because theres not many options in this one to screw up
[20:49] <tux-capacitor> ?
[20:56] <Besogon> tux-capacitor, I don't know but may be you should use Ulteo Open Virtual Desktop. It can works over Windows terminal at least.
[20:58] <tux-capacitor> ill look into it thanks
[20:58] <charlie-tca> Any testers out here? We just got the latest daily-live-386 image for testing.
[20:59] <charlie-tca> this is for tomorrows release, so if you can help test it, we sure would thank you.
[21:01] <Besogon> Im trying to translate "man fonts-conf" I don't undestand what is there means with string "...for external agents" Agents are people or workers or applications?
[21:03] <charlie-tca> I don't know. Could you ask in #xubuntu-devel ?
[21:03] <TFG> Newb question. Just downloaded Xubuntu 9.04, what command do I use to get it to install or what process do I use for installation. I will take a dummy slap if I should know better.
[21:04] <charlie-tca> Which cd?
[21:04] <charlie-tca> Are you installing this on it's own drive?
[21:04] <Bwyard> is xubuntu 9.1 coming out tomorrow
[21:05] <charlie-tca> Bwyard: 9.10 is coming out. the 10 tells us the 10 th month of 2009
[21:05] <Bwyard> oh ok
[21:05] <Bwyard> thats cool
[21:05] <TFG> Have not and am not able to burn it to CD currently, just have the download sitting on the desktop. Will be installing this on the main HD.
[21:05] <Bwyard> so its coming out tomorrow right
[21:05] <TFG> erm, main and only HD on this machine
[21:05] <charlie-tca> Bwyard: yes
[21:05] <Bwyard> ok thanks
[21:06] <charlie-tca> TFG: Want to burn it to CD, you have Ubuntu on that machine?
[21:06] <TFG> I know to install xchat it was a terminal command, just curious if there is one for this also.
[21:06] <TFG> I have 6.06 on this machine
[21:07] <charlie-tca> There is a command to burn it with terminal.
[21:07] <TFG> 6.06 is not detecting the CD drives
[21:07] <TFG> so I have to forgo the burning to disk for now at least
[21:08] <charlie-tca> Even if the gui doesn't detect them, the terminal should be able to burn it.
[21:08] <charlie-tca> !cd
[21:08] <tux-capacitor> any RDP bugs fixed in 9.10 lol? i still can't get it to work, and my boss aint happy
[21:09] <charlie-tca> TFG: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[21:10] <TFG> TY, charlie-tca.
[21:10] <charlie-tca> You are welcome
[21:10] <charlie-tca> !rdp
[21:10] <charlie-tca> !remote
[21:12] <charlie-tca> !vnc
[21:16] <Besogon> charlie-tca, I'm always suprised how many sense a word has got. In Russian One word has got one sense. (
[21:16] <charlie-tca> yeah, English has too many for most of us native english speakers to keep track of
[21:18] <tux-capacitor> true that
[21:19] <charlie-tca> tux-capacitor: does the FreeNX info help any?
[21:19] <charlie-tca> !FreeNX
[21:19] <tux-capacitor> let me check that out, never heard of it
[21:20] <charlie-tca> There should be some other documentation on vnc, also, in the community documentation
[21:21] <tux-capacitor> well i might try that
[21:21] <tux-capacitor> have to add repos though
[21:21] <charlie-tca> That should get you some other remote desktop viewers.
[21:28] <tux-capacitor> odd , it's hanging on getting the key from keyserver.ubuntu.com
[21:28] <charlie-tca> busy night for the servers
[21:28] <tux-capacitor> yeah it just came back with a time out
[21:29] <charlie-tca> new release tomorrow, people get itchey tonite
[21:29] <tux-capacitor> yeah
[21:29] <Besogon> http://www.ulteo.com/home/en/virtualdesktop
[21:30] <tux-capacitor> will i be able to just use synaptic to upgrade to 9.10 in xubuntu, like i've done in Ubuntu
[21:30] <charlie-tca> yes
[21:30] <charlie-tca> Although it will be slow, too, tomorrow
[21:31] <tux-capacitor> yeah
[21:31] <charlie-tca> Just testing, we seem to putting a load on the servers, since the cds are getting rebuilt so many times
[21:32] <tux-capacitor> well i'm in no rush really, my main thing is getting some vnc going on this new laptop from work, it had Vista on it and it was god awful, slow and problems, epic boot times, now its fantastic with xubuntu, but i can't access our ts server
[21:32] <tux-capacitor> rdp* sorry not vnc
[21:33] <charlie-tca> rdp is just the viewer end of vnc
[21:33] <charlie-tca> Should be three or four available in the repositories
[21:33] <tux-capacitor> oh ? i thought it used a diff. protocol, i saw some others , will the gnome or kde ones work ok in xfce?
[21:34] <charlie-tca> They should, gnome will, kde sometimes gives a few issues
[21:35] <tux-capacitor> k
[21:35] <tux-capacitor> lemme give that a shot, i know ive gotten one of the gnome ones to work before
[21:36] <tux-capacitor> whatever mint comes with
[21:39] <tux-capacitor> gRDP - worked
[21:39] <charlie-tca> Great!
[21:40] <tux-capacitor> awful color settings by default but i'm sure thats for speed
[21:40] <tux-capacitor> heh
[21:40] <charlie-tca> works... - nice color... :-)
[21:40] <charlie-tca> give and take, right
[21:47] <tux-capacitor> of course
[21:48] <tux-capacitor> mostly used for E-mail, spread sheets, word, etc. , the only one really hit is doing network diagrams in visio
[22:30] <tux-capacitor> well thanks for all the help, i managed to convince my manager to let me remote in for tomorrow, i'm sure i'll be back in here once i upgrade to 9.10 so catch ya then!
[22:30] <charlie-tca> You are welcome
[22:30] <charlie-tca> good luck
[22:31] <tux-capacitor> thanks
[22:59] <raevol> hey guys, i am getting ready for upgrading to karmic tomorrow, and i had a question
[22:59] <raevol> i want to format my/ so i can use ext4, and also to get grub2
[22:59] <raevol> but i want to back up my /usr/local, which is currently on the same partition as /
[23:00] <raevol> can i just copy that folder to a seperate partition, format, and then copy it back? also i plan to seperate /usr/local to another partition while i am formatting so i don't have to do this again
[23:00] <raevol> is that possible?
[23:02] <charlie-tca> /usr/local/bin and /usr/local/sbin change depending on what you have installed. If you overwrite them with your backup, I don't think that will be good.
[23:03] <raevol> well, i have nothing in /usr/local/sbin, and the only things in /usr/local/bin is programs that are installed to /usr/local
[23:03] <charlie-tca> You need to be careful of what you overwrite after the installation
[23:03] <raevol> hmm
[23:04] <raevol> see the only things that are in /usr/local are proprietary games that i have installed from disc
[23:04] <raevol> so i don't want to have to install them again :(
[23:04] <raevol> ut2k4 for example is 6 cds worth of installing
[23:04] <charlie-tca> should be okay then. As long as the games did not install parts anywhere else.
[23:05] <raevol> might they have installed anything to /etc?
[23:05] <raevol> and if they did would it just be files that would be generated again?
[23:05] <charlie-tca> Hard to say. /etc is generally configuration files.
[23:06] <raevol> my /home is a seperate partition already, so if there's only configurations there they will be preserved
[23:06] <charlie-tca> You normally know if it installed any there that you need to change. Otherwise, it should generate them again
[23:06] <raevol> hmm hmm
[23:07] <raevol> i guess it's worth trying
[23:07] <charlie-tca> Worst that can happen is you have to install the games again, right?
[23:08] <raevol> yea
[23:08] <raevol> well a second question then
[23:08] <charlie-tca> okay
[23:08] <raevol> i currently have a second hard drive formatted with NTFS that i plan to format at some point into ext4
[23:09] <raevol> it's currently mounted through the ntfs tool as /media/Vault
[23:09] <raevol> where would i mount it when it's not ntfs anymore?
[23:09] <charlie-tca> Normally, you use it as ntfs so that windows can see it.
[23:09] <raevol> right, which is how i had it, but i never plan to use windows again, so...
[23:10] <charlie-tca> If windows doesn't need it, when you reformat it, you pick a directory name to use. For example, I have a separate drive partitioned ext4 as
[23:10] <charlie-tca> /home/Downloads
[23:10] <charlie-tca> I mount it as /home/Downloads
[23:10] <raevol> oh nice i see
[23:11] <raevol> would it mount for every user there?
[23:11] <raevol> wait i guess not
[23:11] <charlie-tca> yes
[23:11] <charlie-tca> As long as every user has access to Downloads
[23:11] <raevol> is it /~/Downloads? so it's in your home folder?
[23:11] <raevol> or as a user itself?
[23:11] <charlie-tca> It's not in any user's /home
[23:11] <raevol> ok
[23:12] <raevol> interesting
[23:12] <charlie-tca> it is a separate directory in /home
[23:12] <charlie-tca> I mark it 775
[23:13] <charlie-tca> to give all users read, write, execute privileges to it
[23:13] <raevol> i see ok
[23:13] <raevol> so would putting it in /home be better than putting it in /mnt?
[23:13] <raevol> or /media again?
[23:14] <charlie-tca> I tried using /mnt , but it is easier to have it in /home
[23:14] <charlie-tca> It is personnal choice.
[23:14] <raevol> i just feel then the system might see it as another user's home folder
[23:14] <charlie-tca> Not as long as no user is named Downloads
[23:15] <raevol> ah ok
[23:15] <charlie-tca> I been doing that since 2006
[23:15] <charlie-tca> Time to go eat. good luck
[23:15] <raevol> thanks!
[23:26] <zz> how do I set the system bell so when I backspace it errors if at begining of line?
[23:48] <charlie-tca> !bell