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| dholbach | soren, jpds, nhandler: ready? | 14:11 |
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| nhandler | Yep | 14:11 |
| dholbach | mdeslaur: around? | 14:11 |
| jpds | Afternoon. | 14:11 |
| soren | Yup. | 14:11 |
| mdeslaur | yep | 14:11 |
| dholbach | #startmeeting | 14:11 |
| MootBot | Meeting started at 09:11. The chair is dholbach. | 14:11 |
| MootBot | Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] | 14:11 |
| dholbach | we're here for the MOTU Council meeting - this is an impromptu meeting as we did manage to have quorum last time - some folks were travelling | 14:12 |
| dholbach | we'll have a look at the agenda of the 22nd October: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Council/Meeting | 14:12 |
| dholbach | hey highvoltage | 14:13 |
| dholbach | [TOPIC] Jonathan Carter's MOTU application | 14:13 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Jonathan Carter's MOTU application | 14:13 |
| highvoltage | hi dholbach | 14:13 |
| dholbach | [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JonathanCarter/MOTUApplication | 14:13 |
| MootBot | LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JonathanCarter/MOTUApplication | 14:13 |
| dholbach | hey highvoltage - how are you doing? | 14:13 |
| highvoltage | stgraber: ping | 14:13 |
| mhall119|work | dholbach: I was trying to run harvest the other day, but the install instructions didn't get me the django openID stuff, where can I find that? | 14:13 |
| highvoltage | good thanks dholbach, glad that the Edubuntu release went well (and relieved) | 14:13 |
| mhall119|work | oh, sorry, is there a meeting? | 14:13 |
| dholbach | mhall119|work: we are in a meeting here - can you PM me and I'll reply later? | 14:13 |
| mhall119|work | dholbach: sure | 14:14 |
| dholbach | mhall119|work: mail should work too | 14:14 |
| dholbach | mhall119|work: thanks! | 14:14 |
| stgraber | pong | 14:14 |
| stgraber | hey everyone | 14:14 |
| highvoltage | mhall119|work: please hang around though :) | 14:14 |
| mhall119|work | I will | 14:14 |
| * mhall119|work needs to get his ubuntu membership application ready | 14:14 | |
| dholbach | highvoltage: your wiki page says you're interested in becoming MOTU and you need upload rights for ltsp cluster? which of them are you pursuing in this meeting? :) | 14:14 |
| * dholbach is confused in a pre-karmic-release way :) | 14:15 | |
| highvoltage | dholbach: becoming motu, stgraber says I'm ready! | 14:15 |
| dholbach | ok, so you'd like to have upload rights for the whole of universe/multiverse? | 14:15 |
| nhandler | highvoltage: Could you please describe some of your contributions to things other than ltsp? | 14:15 |
| jpds | highvoltage: Is there a particular reason you're interesting in the LTSP stack? Do you deploy it regularly in your work? | 14:15 |
| stgraber | ltsp-cluster was basically his way of doing a lot of packaging, then we'd really need an extra set of hand for education related packaging | 14:15 |
| highvoltage | dholbach: yes, that would be ideal for new things we want to get in Edubuntu for Lucid | 14:16 |
| dholbach | ok | 14:16 |
| highvoltage | nhandler: in terms of packaging things that have gone into the archives I've only done a patch to include a manpage for gnome-open, so the ltsp-cluster packages have been my main area of work so far | 14:17 |
| highvoltage | jpds: yes I do, and I will be doing more LTSP related work very soon | 14:17 |
| jpds | highvoltage: Excellent. | 14:18 |
| nhandler | highvoltage: What would you do if you were to become a MOTU? Would you be mainly focusing on Edubuntu packages? | 14:18 |
| stgraber | ltsp-cluster was a good way to get into packaging as it's php / python and some scripts in a lot of different packages, some using cdbs, some others using debhelper. As his mentor, I though it would be a good idea to work on these, especially as he soon will be working with these almost everyday ;) | 14:18 |
| highvoltage | nhandler: initially, yes, since there is a big need for it, one of the first things I'd want to do is work with mhall119|work to get the Qimo packages in the ubuntu archives | 14:19 |
| highvoltage | nhandler: I'd also like to get some packages in for Guidalinex Edu so that they can use plain Edubuntu in their deployments | 14:19 |
| highvoltage | nhandler: my interests are certainly much wider than Edubuntu though, but that's where I'll probably be focussing on for the immediate future | 14:19 |
| dholbach | highvoltage: are you in touch with the guadalinex guys regularly? how well are we cooperating with them? | 14:19 |
| highvoltage | dholbach: we chat casually over IRC, we know more or less what they need but we haven't been able to really provide it yet | 14:20 |
| dholbach | highvoltage: is there anything you found most difficult when you were starting your packaging / ubuntu development journey? | 14:21 |
| highvoltage | dholbach: basically, we just need to make some changes to the edubuntu-menu work that LaserJock as already did, but from a community perspective we need to pull them in better into the Edubuntu project | 14:21 |
| highvoltage | dholbach: yes, it's easy to get lost in details, I relied on documentation alone for a long time and it didn't work out | 14:22 |
| highvoltage | dholbach: so the packaging guide would mention that you need to know make, and I'd spend a long time reading about make and related documentation that weren't really necessary | 14:22 |
| dholbach | ... depending on what you want to do and what you start with :) | 14:23 |
| nhandler | highvoltage: We are currently working on cleaning up the packaging guides, any feedback on that would be greatly appreciated | 14:23 |
| highvoltage | dholbach: I've found that it's much better asking in #ubuntu-motu and cool motu people such as LaserJock, stgraber, ogra, ScottK, etc | 14:23 |
| highvoltage | nhandler: ok, I have a printed copy from Lulu so I'll go through it agian to point out areas I had trouble with | 14:24 |
| highvoltage | ideally I would have done more packaging work before applying, but I think I have a good understanding of the processes and I wouldn't do anything risky or weird before consulting with anyone else first | 14:25 |
| dholbach | jpds, soren: do you have more questions? | 14:26 |
| nhandler | I am sorry, but I have to leave now. Hopefully, geser will show up, otherwise, we will figure something out in terms of voting | 14:26 |
| soren | dholbach: Nope. | 14:26 |
| jpds | None from me. | 14:26 |
| dholbach | [vote] Shall Jonathan Carter become MOTU? | 14:27 |
| MootBot | Please vote on: Shall Jonathan Carter become MOTU?. | 14:27 |
| MootBot | Public votes can be registered by saying +1/-1/+0 in the channel, private votes by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to MootBot | 14:27 |
| MootBot | E.g. /msg MootBot +1 #ubuntu-meeting | 14:27 |
| jpds | +1 | 14:28 |
| MootBot | +1 received from jpds. 1 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 1 | 14:28 |
| nhandler | +1 | 14:28 |
| MootBot | +1 received from nhandler. 2 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 2 | 14:28 |
| soren | I thought we didn't have quorum? | 14:28 |
| dholbach | +1 | 14:29 |
| MootBot | +1 received from dholbach. 3 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 3 | 14:29 |
| dholbach | soren: we still do | 14:29 |
| soren | Oh, ok. | 14:29 |
| soren | +1 | 14:29 |
| soren | then | 14:29 |
| MootBot | +1 received from soren. 4 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 4 | 14:29 |
| soren | :) | 14:29 |
| dholbach | [endvote] | 14:29 |
| MootBot | Final result is 4 for, 0 against. 0 abstained. Total: 4 | 14:29 |
| dholbach | congratulations highvoltage | 14:29 |
| highvoltage | YAAAAAY \o/ | 14:29 |
| highvoltage | dholbach: *hug* | 14:30 |
| jpds | highvoltage: congrats! | 14:30 |
| dholbach | (sorry, doorbell rang in the meantime :-)) | 14:30 |
| mdeslaur | congrats highvoltage | 14:30 |
| * dholbach hugs highvoltage too | 14:30 | |
| czajkowski | highvoltage: whooo congrats! | 14:30 |
| highvoltage | only 5 years after I first heard of motu and wanted to join!!! :) | 14:30 |
| mhall119|work | congrats highvoltage | 14:30 |
| dholbach | mdeslaur: for your application, I suggest we send questions now and quickly proceed with voting over mail if geser or persia don't show up in time :) | 14:30 |
| mhall119|work | now I know who to harrass to get Qimo packages in Universe | 14:30 |
| mdeslaur | dholbach: ok | 14:30 |
| dholbach | highvoltage: I'm sure the Edubuntu community (and everybody else) will appreciate it :) | 14:30 |
| highvoltage | dholbach: thanks! and thanks to the Motu Council | 14:31 |
| dholbach | [TOPIC] Marc Deslauriers' Core Dev application | 14:31 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Marc Deslauriers' Core Dev application | 14:31 |
| highvoltage | I'll make your votes count | 14:31 |
| dholbach | [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarcDeslauriers/CoreDevApplication | 14:31 |
| MootBot | LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarcDeslauriers/CoreDevApplication | 14:31 |
| dholbach | mdeslaur: how are you doing? :) | 14:31 |
| mdeslaur | dholbach: I'm great :) | 14:31 |
| mdeslaur | we're releasing today!! | 14:31 |
| dholbach | :-) | 14:32 |
| mdeslaur | You can't see it, but I'm wearing a Koala suit right now | 14:32 |
| stgraber | highvoltage: contratz | 14:32 |
| jdstrand | mdeslaur: I'm imagining it to be very fuzzy | 14:32 |
| dholbach | mdeslaur: I'm glad you're wearing something | 14:32 |
| mdeslaur | hehehe | 14:32 |
| dholbach | soren, jpds: questions? | 14:32 |
| dholbach | mdeslaur: what is your primary interest in Ubuntu development apart from general security? | 14:33 |
| dholbach | mdeslaur: are there contributors for the qa regressions tests? | 14:33 |
| soren | dholbach: No, I know what I'm voting :) | 14:34 |
| jpds | I'm with soren. | 14:34 |
| mdeslaur | dholbach: well, I would like to start working on extending my security involvement to authentication, and desktop lock-down | 14:34 |
| mdeslaur | dholbach: the QA team contributes also to the regression tests | 14:35 |
| mdeslaur | ah, of course, to make Ubuntu better in general, not just from the security side | 14:35 |
| dholbach | mdeslaur: it strikes me as an area that should get many more people contributing to it | 14:35 |
| dholbach | any idea how we get the word out some more? | 14:36 |
| dholbach | should it be easy enough to contribute? | 14:36 |
| mdeslaur | dholbach: well, regression testing is not something that people generally like to do. Although we ask the community when they submit security patches to test and possibly write qa testing scripts, I unfortunately have not seen any go by. | 14:36 |
| dholbach | is it too hard to write those tests? | 14:37 |
| mdeslaur | dholbach: not really, they are simple python-unit scripts. sbeattie did an excellent tutorial on them on irc the other day. | 14:38 |
| dholbach | maybe somebody could blog about it again or bring it up in some kind of tutorial / irc session again | 14:38 |
| mdeslaur | dholbach: I think the priority right now is to get people more involved in actually producing security updates for universe packages | 14:38 |
| dholbach | it's just too awesome to not put some more work into it :) | 14:38 |
| dholbach | ok | 14:38 |
| mdeslaur | dholbach: that seems to be the area that I think we could sum up some interest | 14:39 |
| mhall119|work | are there script templates? | 14:39 |
| mhall119|work | that might help | 14:39 |
| dholbach | mdeslaur: let's chat about that outside the meeting some - maybe at UDS over a beer :) | 14:39 |
| dholbach | alright, I'm done with questions myself | 14:39 |
| mdeslaur | dholbach: that sounds good :) | 14:39 |
| dholbach | soren, jpds: shall we "vote provisionally" and ask the others to weigh in via mail to speed this up? | 14:40 |
| mdeslaur | mhall119|work: there is a template for starting a new script, and the existing scripts are simple to understand | 14:40 |
| soren | dholbach: I'm confused. I thought you said we were quorate? | 14:40 |
| dholbach | soren: nhandler left in the meantime | 14:41 |
| soren | dholbach: I thought he left just before we voted on highvoltage.. | 14:41 |
| soren | Ah, I see now. | 14:41 |
| dholbach | soren: nhandler still participated in that vote | 14:41 |
| soren | Yes, I thought he left right before. Ok. | 14:41 |
| soren | Errr... Yeah, I guess we can just vote here and let the others do it over e-mail. | 14:42 |
| dholbach | soren, jpds: opinions? leave everything to be voted on the ML or "collect our votes here already"? | 14:42 |
| soren | Actually. | 14:42 |
| soren | .. | 14:42 |
| soren | Let's do it over e-mail. | 14:42 |
| dholbach | ok | 14:42 |
| soren | We can all just send our votes straight away. | 14:42 |
| dholbach | thanks mdeslaur for your understanding | 14:42 |
| mdeslaur | dholbach: no problem! | 14:42 |
| dholbach | soren: can you take care of Marc's application? | 14:42 |
| soren | It seems simpler to have it all in onve place. | 14:42 |
| dholbach | I'm happy to process Jonathan's | 14:42 |
| dholbach | soren: just a piece of log or something, so the other's know what we talked about | 14:43 |
| dholbach | soren: happy with that? :) | 14:44 |
| soren | Sure. | 14:44 |
| dholbach | fantastic | 14:44 |
| dholbach | thanks a lot everybody | 14:44 |
| dholbach | [TOPIC] Any other business? | 14:44 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Any other business? | 14:44 |
| mdeslaur | thanks everyone! | 14:44 |
| dholbach | thanks mdeslaur and highvoltage | 14:44 |
| mhall119|work | ubuntu.com is updated, 9.10 is officially out | 14:45 |
| mhall119|work | congratulations to everyone involved | 14:45 |
| dholbach | ok, sounds like everybody has some celebration to do, let's adjourn! | 14:45 |
| dholbach | have a great day and thanks everyone | 14:45 |
| dholbach | #endmeeting | 14:45 |
| MootBot | Meeting finished at 09:45. | 14:45 |
| highvoltage | thanks eveyrone! | 14:46 |
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