[02:39] I have a (likely easy to solve) problem with a fresh install: Mythbuntu live works, CD checks fine, but after the install it just does nothing with a black rectangle on the screen after bootup. Is there something I'm doing wrong during the install process? [03:13] Actually occurs when the 'Launch MythTV Setup' step is performed during the install as well... [05:01] <_wily_sal_> I'm trying to install mythtv on 9.04 and when I try to set up the backend all the menu items are blank. Is this a common problem? I can provide my logs [05:02] <_wily_sal_> http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/fa5b95cc [05:04] _wily_sal_ I had that problem on 9.04 sometimes. Can't explain it. I haven't noticed it on though. [05:05] <_wily_sal_> it means I can't set up mythtv, which is a bit of a pain obviously [05:06] Yes, I understand completely. Are you running gnome? [05:06] <_wily_sal_> I am [05:11] <_wily_sal_> are there any other ways to watch tv, other than mythtv? [05:13] _wily_sal_: when I had that problem, I chalked it up to MythTV 0.21 combined with 9.04. You could try MythTV 0.22 and see if that helps. [05:13] 1) Install the Mythbuntu Repos package and select MythTV 0.22 [05:13] 2) Run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" [05:14] Repo's package is here: http://www.mythbuntu.org/auto-builds [05:14] <_wily_sal_> did it work for you? [05:14] other ways to watch t.v.? Well, most video players will let you watch. MythTV is much more than that though... it's a super DVR (scheduling and such). [05:16] <_wily_sal_> i'm installing .22 now [05:17] _wily_sal_ I had 0.22 running on kubuntu 9.04 briefly. Most other installs had the problem shown in your pastbin.com [05:20] <_wily_sal_> mrand: no joy I'm afraid [05:20] <_wily_sal_> it was worth a try though [05:21] yeah. Do you need to stay on 9.04, or could you move to 9.10? I never had a problem the many times on 9.10. [05:21] <_wily_sal_> i suppose I could update [05:22] Of course, I say that and then my luck will be that you end up with some esoteric issue. [05:22] :-) [05:23] <_wily_sal_> probably [05:23] <_wily_sal_> this isn't the first time I've tried to set up mythtv, though last time it was an lirc issue that stopped me from going ahead [05:24] Well, 9.10 has much improved lirc stuff as well. [05:24] * mrand digs his hole deeper. [05:27] <_wily_sal_> lets just hope this upgrade goes smoothly [05:28] <_wily_sal_> if i dissapear and don't come back it's safe to assume I borked it [05:29] hahaha. I need to go. But if you have questions, just pose them here and hopefully someone knowledgable will come by (if they aren't all asleep). [05:29] <_wily_sal_> thanks for the help [05:29] sure thing. [05:29] * mrand sleeps [07:11] hi all hoping sme one can help i am tryingt o setup myth tv to access a samba share for playing movies i have got the samba share to auto mount at startup but when i point myth tv at it it fails to see the folder has any movies in it [07:11] i think it has to do with permissions [07:11] but i cant change the permissions of the folder i have mounted the share in [07:11] am i going about it the wrong way? thanks [07:20] back u guys my idea failed === _styelz is now known as styelz [07:20] it seems when fstab mounts the network share it changes the folder permissions === shady` is now known as shady === shady is now known as Shady === shady` is now known as Shady [08:47] Hm, in the mythbuntu UI, is there some way I can switch it from view icons to view list? [08:55] is there any one in here avle to help with folder permissions [10:19] hi all i am trying to set up my myth box to access a samba share i have managed to get the samba share to auto mount on start up but it has the wrong privileges can any one help [11:18] hi all. anyone using mythtv 9.10 with an imonlcd? [11:22] !help [11:22] !help For a complete list of my knowledge visit: http://www.baablogic.net/Zinn.cgi Other available commands: !status, !about, !bug [bug_number]. [11:22] Pwen got o #mythbuntu for user questions [11:24] err #mythbuntu forwards me here? [11:25] ahh ops sorry my mistake [11:25] I thought I was in the dev channel [11:25] :( [11:26] which revision of Mythbuntu are you running? [11:26] 9.10 [11:26] RC [11:26] ahh ok things have changed for this release [11:26] do you have the LCD or VFD? [11:27] yeah, all the forum/user help Ive found refers to 9.04 stuff [11:27] I have the LCD [11:27] ahh same as me [11:27] I'll tell you where I'm at: I can get the LCD to "work", but when I start LCDd it displays the startup message and then appears to hang [11:27] hang? [11:27] like does it just display the time and not update [11:27] and prints screenlist_process() to the console forever until I ctrl-c [11:28] yeah its as though it just wants to print the startup message forever :P [11:29] thats an odd one, I havent seen before [11:30] what steps have you taken to get where you are now? [11:30] BTW 9.10 final should be out in a few hours [11:30] pretty much none - before I installed mythbuntu 9.10 yesterday I had never used mythtv, LCDd or lirc before. Ive just been reading a lot [11:30] hehe [11:31] seems good so far [11:31] seems good so far [11:31] woops [11:31] ahh did you set the Protocol version in the LCDd.conf file? [11:31] its should be 0 [11:32] as I am assuming that you have the ffdc version [11:33] hmm? I thought it was the other way around [11:34] umm [11:34] Bus 005 Device 002: ID 15c2:0038 SoundGraph Inc. [11:34] ok so you need to set it to '1' [11:34] yup [11:34] thats set [11:36] I am really not sure why you are seeing that then [11:36] have you tried forcing some text to the screen [11:38] Im not sure how to do that [11:38] here are the relevant sections of my LCDd.conf [11:38] http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/m5ab7fe08 [11:39] it looks normal [11:39] (thats good) [11:40] the Hello= message gets printed to the screen and the heartbeat appears and beats, but the hello message never goes away [11:40] ahh ok [11:40] how do I write text directly to the display? [11:40] so then when does it get to the 'screenlist_process()' bit? [11:41] after I start the LCDd on the commandline, it goes through its startup messages then prints [11:41] screenlist_switch(s=[_server_screen]) [11:41] over and over and over [11:41] screenlist_process() [11:42] it sounds like it is sending the console messages for LCDd to the LCD [11:43] hmmm [11:43] I just tried the command "sudo lcdproc CPU" [11:43] If you look at the bottom of the first post in this thread. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1069267 [11:43] and it switched to the LCDd console printout then back to a time display. I tried the command again and now it's showing the CPU details. how strange! [11:43] you can see meantion of 'screenlist_process()' meantioned [11:43] thats goosd [11:43] good [11:44] now try mythtv [11:46] ok, cool [11:46] it seems to be working [11:46] scrolling through all the screens now [11:46] :) [11:47] wombo: what remote do you have? [11:48] MS MCE [11:48] and [11:48] Logitech Harmony [11:48] + MORE [11:49] I have a Harmony 525 [11:49] and I have programmed it to support the "Antec Fusion 350" (my case) [11:50] should it "just work"? [11:50] I hope so [11:50] if not try to iMon Pad [11:50] tell me the results please [11:50] I dont have the pad remote, just an "RM100" tiny remote [11:51] no buttons on it [11:51] also, I am having the problem with the remote of double-presses (down and up), did you fix this? [11:52] ahh this is a common problem [11:52] the fix is to just not let the button go [11:52] hehe [11:52] I havent looked into it much yet as I keep rebuilding my machine every fews days anyway at the moment [11:53] I did hear of Logitech being able to change the config on the remote [11:53] do some reading on it as that problem is with the remote config not lirc [11:54] ah ok [11:54] I am having the strangest time with this LCD [11:54] I just exited mythfrontend [11:54] and started it up again, and now the LCD is blank [11:56] and now Ive just restarted LCDd and tried lcdproc CPU again, and its turned off the backlight and I cant see anything [11:57] so very inconsistent :P [11:57] I am not sure sorry [11:58] but they are quite strange LCDs at times [11:59] * Pwen nods [11:59] ok [11:59] I can sort that out later. I have some more questions about mythtv? [12:01] wombo: I have setup my videos directory. but when I go to "Watch Videos" mythvideo tells me there are none. how can I make it generate an index or whatever it has to do? [12:02] Do you have any movies in that directory yet? [12:02] about 250gb [12:02] ok [12:02] theyre exising tv shows etc I copied in there [12:02] just a sec [12:03] go to Setup then Video Manager [12:04] I have Setup -> Media Settings -> Videos Settings? [12:05] yeah that should do it too [12:05] I must be honest I dont do this bit often [12:05] is there anything in there [12:05] yeah then I go to General Settings [12:06] this is where I specified the folder that contains my videos, I set it to /home/owen/Videos -- but now Im thinking, if mythtv runs under its own user its obviously not going to see my home directory [12:06] what a stupid question [12:06] lol my bad [12:08] ok, moved it to the proper dir [12:08] still not seeing them [12:09] Yeah sorry I am not much help for you on this, there should be alot of docos on it though [12:09] try wiki.mythtv.com [12:09] ok, thanks [12:10] I have one more question; sometimes when I watch hi-def channels or channels where the audio codec is ac3, I just get a crackling noise. channels with the other audio codec (cant remember which) work fine [12:10] but sometimes, depending on what channel I start "Watch LiveTV" on, the ac3 chans work [12:12] not sure again sorry [12:12] wait around someone might be able to help [12:13] or ask at #mythtv-users [12:14] cool [12:14] thanks for your help === oobe is now known as menotoobe === menotoobe is now known as `0OoOoO0OoOoO0` [12:33] anybody here using an antec fusion case? [12:33] what improvements have been made in karmic [12:33] i cannot wait for the release === `0OoOoO0OoOoO0` is now known as oobe === `oobe` is now known as oobe [13:28] crazy times in the ubuntu world! :-) [13:38] why? [13:45] 9.10 release [13:45] I'm freaking pumped [13:45] it solves about 3 problems for me [13:49] me 2 [13:49] when will the mythbuntu iso be build? [13:49] i wonder [14:14] hey there, how are the naming conventions for multipart avis in mythvideo? [14:18] WEEE! [14:23] !help [14:23] !help For a complete list of my knowledge visit: http://www.baablogic.net/Zinn.cgi Other available commands: !status, !about, !bug [bug_number]. [14:42] Happy Ubuntu everyone! [14:51] so what's the ETA on 9.10 look like? [14:51] I'm a fairly new Mythbuntu user so I'm not familiar with the release lag [14:51] I know it's small though [14:53] not sure what causes the update manager to pick it up but you can force it to look for a new distribution by running "update-manager -d" [15:03] yeah... I was hoping to just do a clean install [15:03] my box is acting goofy [15:04] how is it just installing ubuntu and then putting mythtv on it? [15:04] I'm interested in that option because then I'll have a full ubuntu install too :-) [15:06] hi all [15:06] i am running 9.10 rc [15:06] i cant get music to display albulmn folders [15:07] i have tried all combinations [15:07] is there a way to just display folders in music [15:08] my music path in settings points a samba share mount locally [15:16] howdy all. Is the pvr150 blaster supported by 9.10? I think I read somewhere that pvr150_lirc has been renamed/removed. [15:17] I don't use the blaster, but everything else works with my pvr150 [15:17] I suspect the blaster would as well [15:18] we dont have lirc_zilog which is needed for it in 9.10 [15:18] it's on j-rod's git tree [15:18] eventually will need to build a dkms package of it [15:18] superm1 : Sounds great. Guess I will not be updating today then! [15:19] we really should release note that [15:19] ^ [15:19] tgm4883, [15:20] superm1 : Where would that package be available in time? From a PPA or a mythbuntu repo? I build my own myth so don't use mythbuntu repos [15:20] yfaykya, probably on mythbuntu-testing repo [15:21] superm1 : Ok thanks. I might try and build one now for the sake of it. Have you a pointer to that git repo? [15:21] http://git.wilsonet.com/linux-2.6-lirc.git/ [15:21] ty [15:22] yfaykya, do you have much experience building dkms packages? [15:22] maybe you might be able to get the dkms package built for folks... [15:23] superm1 : Not really but I won't let that stop me trying. I will have a go [15:23] yfaykya, cool thanks. would help a lot [15:24] Need to do some upgrades first though :-) [15:48] hi, im seeding mythbuntu9,10 on my own now, anyone willing to seed? [15:49] there is a torrent, but no-one is seeding, already 30 ppl started dl-ing, but quit, as there are no seeds [15:49] just go seed on the official [15:49] that's what I'm doing [15:50] i justt dl the cdimage thing, and keep feeding new parts to it, till i got it complete [15:50] how come there is no-one seeding it? im on the torrent.ubuntu.com one .... [15:52] and anyone who got parts, got it from the parts ive seeded [15:53] is there a more official one? [15:55] Cyber-Dogg: got more trackers for me? [15:59] ok, my seed is complete, i hope im not staying the only seeder, i only got 90k [16:02] ok, going strong now, already 5 ppl over 10% [16:06] if i keep this up, the first person wil complete the torrent in 70 minutes [16:07] is there no-one in mythbuntu who made sure there would be a few seeders at the start of the release, ubuntu386desktop has almost 2500 by now [16:08] sikko, Canonical creates the ISO's and torrents for us, but doesn't give us access until they release. So we get the torrent file the same time you do [16:09] so? i dl-ed it, and put the parts on the torrent as i got them [16:09] so could the project? [16:09] i'm at work, some of us have jobs [16:10] sorry, not meant to offend [16:10] im in a different timezone :) [16:11] just thought that this would be an easy thing to prepare for [16:11] usually I do, but you don't know what happened right before release [16:11] plus, if you notice the mythbuntu web site lists the current version as 9.04, so we haven't actually released yet [16:12] no, im just glad that i could help out, and was thinking why i had to :) [16:12] now I just went on break, so I will try to get the release done [16:13] i understand the announcement hasnt gone out by you, but ubuntu done it already [16:13] so as i saw everybody jumping on the torrent and leaving again, i saw i could help out [16:14] and we appreciate that [16:14] so i hope you understand what im trying to say. Itś not a complaint, just that i was wondering, and jumped in :) [16:15] ok, great! [16:15] usually when Ubuntu releases, they give the Mythbuntu release manager a little bit of notification [16:15] this time, they did not [16:15] howdy guys [16:15] hi [16:16] happy release date to you all [16:16] I can't even get on the site to download the torrent files :/ [16:16] so now we could use some more ppl who would be willing to quickly dl the iso, and seed it on torrent [16:16] lol, it took me about 15 minutes to reach it. [16:17] the site is being hammered [16:17] wow the servers are going to be glowing tonight [16:17] inthe end i did wget http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/mythbuntu/releases/9.10/release/mythbuntu-9.10-desktop-i386.iso [16:17] and that worked [16:18] only got 200-400 dl speed though [16:19] but i think thats soing down soon, as more ppl start hammering [16:20] posting the torrent in here and maybe the mythtv-users mailing list before publicly announcing the release might be a good idea [16:20] so at least they're enough seeders [16:22] * tgm4883 sighs [16:23] :) [16:26] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/mythbuntu/releases/9.10/release/mythbuntu-9.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent [16:26] well, this is the torrent, hop on :) [16:27] i already gave 31% [16:27] !release [16:27] Mythbuntu 9.10 http://www.mythbuntu.org/downloads === tgm4883 changed the topic of #ubuntu-mythtv to: Mythbuntu 9.10 released :: Please visit www.mythbuntu.org for more information :: Paste logs @ http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com Please stick around for people to answer your question [16:29] well I can't help seed now, but I can do all that [16:29] so maybe more people will jump on now that we have released [16:31] wow! same situation with the 64 bit edition [16:32] im downloading it now, but got no time to wait for it to finish, got to go to work in 10 [16:33] so anyone: pls dl http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/mythbuntu/releases/9.10/release/mythbuntu-9.10-desktop-amd64.iso [16:34] and seed these torrents: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/mythbuntu/releases/9.10/release/mythbuntu-9.10-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent or http://www.mythbuntu.org/files/mythbuntu-9.10-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent [16:35] the source at http://mythbuntu.org/download/?file=mythbuntu-9.10-desktop-amd64.iso is very slow, only 90k/s [16:36] sikko, FYI, those torrents are identical [16:36] ok, didn know how to check, so i gave both [16:37] i just started seeding 64bit, only 5% though [16:37] I don't know how to check unless you download both and compare them [16:37] I just know they are the same because I wget'ed the file to the web server [16:37] <- Mythbuntu release manager [16:39] sorry if i jumped the gun on you, if there is anything else you want me to do/stop with, tell me, not trying to do your job [16:40] yes! another seeder on 32bit [16:45] ok, ill update to over 30% in a few seconds, then ill have to go, but ppl will see proogress ont heir seeds already. if someone steps in within the next 30 minutes, the torrent will continue, without anyone seeing full stop [16:56] ill probably be too late at work, but ill try to get the dl to 100% so the torrent runs on [17:09] ok, i seed the full 64 bit version now as well, hope we get a lot of downloads and good reviews of the new release, hereby i want to thank tgm4883 for everything he did to make this release possible, and also everybody in the rest of the team. thank you for a great distribution! [17:09] and thanks that i could find something to do to help as well :) [17:10] got to go to work now, hope i dont get in trouble for it ;P [17:18] is the 9.10 mythbuntu officially released? [17:18] oh nevermind I see it is [17:18] !release [17:18] Mythbuntu 9.10 http://www.mythbuntu.org/downloads [17:18] Someone missed to update the site... is says 9.03 [17:18] *9.04 [17:18] on first page that is... [17:21] hmm will the amd64-bit run on a Intel Core 2 Duo with 64-bit capabilities? [17:21] or why is it named "amd64" [18:51] With mythbuntu, when I go to play videos from the hard drive, is there any way to have it use a list view instead of an icon view? [18:56] how do I change my repo from the UK to the US? tried reinstalling the package off of the website but it just put the UK repos back in the file [18:57] WOW! torrents are WICKED fast! [18:57] just started and I'll have me iso in 13minutes! [19:20] hi similar to what was posted here: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/402110?page=last I cannot get my board to accept rtc/wakealarm unless I use relative time ie sudo sh -c "echo +300 > /sys/class/rtc/rtc0/wakealarm" [19:21] all other options just add 5min from prompt times and gives no date, so my question is how can I amend the wakeup script to use relative time // what do I need to add to mythtv setup -- this was not a problem with 9.04 but unfortunately my system decided to give up and I had to do a fresh install and then chose to use 9.10 [19:27] I have mythtv installed on ubuntu 9.10 [19:27] I setup the playback to use the VDPAU profile [19:27] and as far as I know I have an appropriate video card for that [19:27] crankharder, use MCC [19:28] when I do playbck it fails and I checked the log [19:28] it says no compiled playback format found [19:28] yes what did the log say, what driver are you using and what car do you have [19:28] card I mean [19:28] well car too [19:28] and what file format were you trying to play [19:28] LOL... my car sucks :-) [19:28] we need to make sure you represent mythbuntu properly ;) [19:29] driver is 185 [19:29] my car is a 2001 taurus [19:29] Cyber-Dogg, what card? [19:29] looking [19:30] 8200 [19:30] it's an onboard [19:30] I have a shuttle SN78SH7 [19:30] sec [19:31] let me go pastbin the logs [19:31] ok if its an geforce 8200 it shoul work, I have the same chipset [19:32] !logs | Cyber-Dogg [19:32] Cyber-Dogg: MythTV logs are stored in /var/log/mythtv/ You can use mythbuntu-log-grabber from the Applications menu to automatically post the most relevant logs to our pastebin. [19:33] filebin.ca/crat [19:34] I just got the frontend log [19:34] uh... file format... [19:34] I have a firewire STB that works (this setup works if I change the profile to cpu--) [19:34] mpg feed [19:34] sorry I didn't properly format the URL :/ [19:35] Cyber-Dogg, yea I can't read that [19:35] use the log grabber tool [19:35] ok [19:36] its actually just text, open page with gedit works [19:36] you error: 2009-10-29 13:58:36.568 VidOutVDPAU Error: Failed to initialise VDPAU [19:36] 2009-10-29 13:58:36.593 VideoOutputXv: Desired video renderer 'vdpau' not available. [19:38] can you check that you installed the vdpau files ? and what version they are I for awhile had a problem that the symlinked vdpau files all were linking to other versions ie instead of linking to the driver that was correct they kept relinking themselves on startup to some other version, I deleted the "wrong" version and that fixed it for me [19:38] so, I just upgraded to mythbuntu 9.10 (was using gentoo actually) and now I am not able to get a livetv output with my HD-PVR. I am able to cat /dev/video0 > blah and capture video but mythtbackend keeps kicking out the error "MPEGRec(/dev/video0) Error: StartEncoding failed [19:38] eno: Resource temporarily unavailable (11)" any ideas? Google isn't being much help today. I have checked permissions on /dev/video0 and there are not issues [19:39] Resource temporarily unavailable (11) usually means soemthing else is using it [19:41] there is nothing else running, and I am able to access the device by cat /dev/video0 > blah.ts and get a capture. reloading the kernel modules and replugging to don't help either [19:41] Redhammer_the_Ol: sure... how do I do that :-) [19:41] http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/f1aa80dee [19:43] ok first check in synaptic and search for vdpau, is it installed [19:44] when I search for that all I see the nvidia driver [19:44] the 185 [19:44] then ls -l /usr/lib | grep dpau [19:46] is nvidia-185-libvdpau installed ? then check with the ls -l | grep vdpau what you see [19:46] yep [19:46] btw can anyone help me / has any had the issue with the clock writing I have had ? I mean that only sudo sh -c "echo +300 > /sys/class/rtc/rtc0/wakealarm" adding time will work ? [19:47] looks like I have the symlink issue too [19:47] is it linking to the wrong version ? then correct the symlinks [19:47] there are several links in htere [19:47] which one do I need to change? [19:47] paste the output and let me look [19:49] http://pastebin.ca/1648265 [19:51] the links look fine -- in my case the linking was to libvdpau_nvidia.so.180.xx.yy instead of 185.18.36 [19:52] ah [19:52] so that is not it [19:52] fixed my problem, forgot to set my proto to PAL, didn't think that mattered with the hdpvr, but that's what I get for thinking [19:53] hmm... [19:53] it looked to me like the main "entry" was not pointing to the nvidiai [19:54] that's why I thought it might be wrong [19:55] no it goes in a loop for some reason but that is "normal" [19:55] sure... [19:55] but I just didn't see a path from libvdpau.so to libvdpau_nvidia.so.185.18.36 [19:55] and I assume that that is the important file [19:55] but... what do I know :-) [19:58] any other thoguhts? [19:59] superm1 : ping [19:59] yfaykya, pong [20:00] superm1: Who mantains the package lirc-modules-source ? It is already set up for dkms [20:00] If that could be patched it would be ideal [20:01] yfaykya, that's us who maintains that too [20:01] hmm cyber-dogg does this happen with all media types ? [20:01] I think ppl would have to get their own f/w though [20:01] yfaykya, yeah patching that would be doable [20:01] at least for living on the PPA [20:01] uh... haven't tried any others :-) [20:02] I don't see any lirc_zilog.c in there though [20:02] yfaykya, yeah that's a new module that's not upstream [20:02] similar to how lirc_pvr150 wasn't [20:03] Ah .. This will be my 5th upgrade on my production systems so I am confused as to what is new! :-) [20:03] This release I can drop dvb sources which is nice [20:04] Are upstream slow or are they against lirc_zilog for some reason? [20:04] against lirc_zilog [20:05] because it requires that pieces of "firmware" with questionable licensing [20:05] indeed [20:05] So *buntu decided to include lirc_pvr150 anyway? [20:07] yeah [20:07] Anyways the lirc_pvr150 that came as standard did not work (blaster support). [20:07] because of the missing firmwrae [20:07] No - even with f/w I always had to roll my own [20:07] really? [20:07] well hopefully during lucid you can help get things to working OOTB [20:08] we can get the zilog support in by default [20:08] anybody know how I can add the current time to a script ? what I mean is edit this : http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/m445b0e5 so that it converts from time_t to time_t - current time so that I can change the second line to echo +(time_t - current time) > /sys/class/rtc/rtc0/wakealarm [20:08] and talk about maybe packing that firmware into linux-firmware-nonfree or something [20:08] That would be a nice way to do it. [20:09] I am going to try and patch and build that module now but wary to upgrade my prod box until I know it works. I have no pvr150 in my laptop [20:10] Should I clone jarods tree or try and merge into existing lirc-modules-source? [20:10] so the nice thing about doing it with dkms is that you can bring that dkms package over [20:10] yeah that's probably the best way to do it [20:11] which one ;-) [20:11] oh i read that "and" not "or" [20:11] do both! [20:11] you'll have to clone the tree to see what parts need merging anyway [20:12] true.. Ok - enough procrastination. Thanks.. [20:12] best of luck :) [20:16] tgm4883: I pasted the mythbuntu logs earlier [20:16] did they help you see anything wrong? [20:18] Cyber-Dogg, repost? [20:21] http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/f1aa80dee [20:25] * Cyber-Dogg crosses fingers [20:29] howdy [20:38] hi [20:39] im set on building a dvr [20:40]