[00:10] Speaking of the release manager (-r-p convo), do we have them lined up to announce in there when appropriate? [00:18] nalioth: I could be useful to have ubot3 syncing the factoids db more often today since it's the one in #u-r-p, if that's possible. [00:20] tonyyarusso: more often than every hour? [00:20] nalioth: is it really that much? Seemed like it wasn't grabbing something, but I guess I haven't checked systematically... [00:20] (memory thought it was once a day anyway, so bleh) [00:20] :) [00:21] it syncs to the main db every 59 minutes [00:21] okie dokie - nvm me then [00:40] u-r-p isn't +c do we care? [00:41] Not until people start abusing it [00:41] It also was -t earlier. [00:41] and +s [00:42] That channel is mos eisley anyway. The current conversation there makes me question whether we should still entertain it. [00:43] er, not current, but the past few hours [00:43] It'll be worse later [00:54] dang ohmy [00:55] I really want to tell -release-party I've got a bottle of jack and my finger on the ban button ;) [00:55] Amaranth: eh? [00:55] Flannel: It's a party :) [00:55] Amaranth: hehe [00:55] Amaranth: So go ahead :) [00:56] I've tried to keep a "it's a party, let things slide" attitude, but a couple of people are close to being banned regardless. [00:56] agreed [00:56] Flannel: The problem is telling the difference between "it's a party, I'm having fun" and "I'm screwing with all of you" [00:57] Amaranth: right. [00:57] Like the guy seemingly lifted right out of 4chan [00:57] Mhmm. [00:57] @login [00:57] The operation succeeded. [00:57] In #ubuntu-release-party, Inphoar said: ubot3 is still here, and when PartyBot1 is gone, there's no telling what he'll do. [00:57] !areyousure-#ubuntu-release-party is Yes, I'm sure. [00:57] I'll remember that, Amaranth [00:58] oh, wait, ubot3 [00:58] dang [00:58] It'll sync hourly [00:59] Howdy h00k, how can we help you today? [00:59] hello Flannel! [00:59] I was wondering the proper steps to consider before asking to voulenteer for the job of helping out as an op. [00:59] *volunteer [01:03] ha, ajmitch is going to ban me [01:03] orly, this I'd like to see. [01:04] Think we should just stay +o? Cuts down on the traffic with the +o/-o and will hopefully make people less crazy [01:05] Flannel: I also understand that you guys are busy everywhere [01:05] s/guys/guys-and-gals [01:05] h00k: At this time we're not accepting volunteer operators. Normally when we have the need for more we look to the contributing members of our community. [01:05] h00k: Someone who knows the answer will be able to answer you. [01:05] Pici: okay, thanks for the info! [01:09] Maybe we need to come up with activities and games to play for -release-party. It works for eight year olds... [01:09] good idea [01:11] Thanks for volunteering to come up with ideas too [01:12] :P [01:12] if the bot is going to be muting people and setting +z I'm going to stay +o while I'm around [01:18] In #ubuntu-release-party, rickspencer3 said: ubot3, when is supposed to be out? [01:22] Flannel: that is actually a good idea [01:22] jono... hah [01:22] tonyyarusso: Yeah. I'm just not sure what sort of fun activities we could do. [01:23] Having a bunch of competitions or something would certainly keep people busy, and probably be fun. [01:23] I have a very very large trivia file if someone has a working bot (the questions are hard though) [01:26] hi [01:26] Howdy krummlauf, how can we help you today? [01:30] PartyBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (clone flood) [01:32] PartyBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [01:34] This is getting insane way too quickly [01:37] Amaranth: That was the guy who kept asking about the pirate bay link [01:37] oh, ok then [01:39] oh, Scientologist in #ubuntu-release-party [01:41] do you needs help in #ubuntu-release-party ? [01:42] niko: you are on the access list (twice) [01:42] PartyBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [01:54] the partybot is attracting the trolls [01:56] LjL called the ops in #ubuntu () [02:04] !away > EsmD [02:08] krummlauf: Can we help you? [02:09] * MenZa jabs krummlauf with a pointy stick. [02:18] o sorry [02:18] i got banned or somethin [02:18] for sayin HAIL SATAN on accident [02:18] can i go back to the channel [02:20] i think ikonia did it or somethin [02:22] it was on mistake i dont mean bad [02:27] nalioth: Does ubot3 have a different way of handling overlap with !info than ubottu? [02:31] In #ubuntu-release-party, d1b said: ubot3: pizza_party is http://www.beigerecords.com/cory/Things_I_Made/PizzaParty [02:35] i didnt mean bad [02:35] am i banished forever to this realm of nod? [02:46] hey anyone here? i need to test if the dcc exploit wont work on me [02:47] Dasda: You've passed/been removed from the looks of things [02:47] ok [02:47] thanks [02:47] Hmm, or maybe not. [02:47] Oooh [02:47] my router doesn't have new firmware [02:47] im on port 8001 [02:47] is there a way i could do this for other servers too? i have always had this problem and never known what caused it [02:48] mostly efnet [02:48] Dasda: Try asking for a test again in -read-topic [02:48] Dasda: If they support a non-6667 port, use that [02:49] ok, nothing else I can do though other than get a new router then right? [02:49] the test still doesn't work [02:49] Assuming its your router and you can't upgrade to firmware that isn't vulnerable, yeah. [02:49] "<@FloodBotK1> Dasda: Sorry, but I am unable to test you (are you using your usual nickname?). Please contact the operators (type « /topic » to find out how)." [02:50] Dasda: right, ignore that [02:50] You're good it looks like [02:50] ok [02:50] cool [02:50] i guess ill follow rules and leave since my issue has been dealt with [02:50] thanks alot [02:50] Dasda: Although, changing your user from "Suck a dick" might be nice too. [02:50] lol [02:50] ok [02:50] sure [02:50] give me sec [02:52] good now? flannel? [02:52] Dasda: Aye. I was just mentioning it offhand anyway [02:54] yeah you aren't first though, i was always hesitant because it required me to disconnect and connect again right at the moment then I always forgot later on [02:54] thanks alot for the info, its really nice that ubuntu users help in everything [02:55] Dasda: No problem [02:55] take care [02:55] You too [03:06] I wonder why they don't password-protect the bits of the server used for staging - I'm sure the mirroring stuff knows how to do basic auth [03:25] afaik it's just rsync [03:26] tonyyarusso: There isn't a need to, there is nothing that needs to be kept private [03:27] nhandler: I meant for preventing people from loading down the servers while they're trying to sync by grabbing things right now [03:28] nhandler: btw while you're here - who's in charge of the .ics for Open Week? It doesn't seem right. (Or I'm just crazy) [03:29] tonyyarusso: I commented on that a day or so ago. I'll poke amber and jorge again about it tomorrow (they are handling all of the Open Week stuff) [03:29] So it's not just me? Yay [03:29] i need help [03:29] i aint bad [03:29] they say im bad but i know i aint [03:29] im good [03:40] !away > kisuke [03:41] krummlauf: Hi. I think you're waiting on ikonia? [03:50] krummlauf: is there any further we can help you with? [03:51] FloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (clone flood) [03:53] Odd. [03:53] #ubuntu-release-fiesta looks non-malicious [03:54] fiesta? [03:55] Is it Spanish? [03:55] Yeah. [03:55] It's the clone flood that was just reported [03:55] advertisement, that is. [03:56] I expected to join and get attacked by ads or something [06:01] what's the deal with "omg its out!!eleven1111" people in #ubuntu? tell them it's not(yet) and if they dont shush, remove them? [06:02] judgment call imo [06:02] nod [06:02] kewlbns is seriously annoying though [06:02] i wasnt sure if there was an offical stance or not [06:03] vox: Yeah. If they're being disruptive/annoying, warn, then remove, just like always [06:03] Although I suppose in this case also advertise #ubuntu-release-party [06:04] nod [06:06] Yes, push them to #ubuntu-release-party [06:07] If you have to ban, then banforward to release party. [07:00] user "ubuntu" in #kubuntu is PMing me and asking "asl" [07:00] i'm playing dumb and interpreting this as "american sign language" [07:04] In ubot3, prateek said: it is out [07:04] In ubot3, prateek said: it is dskhfkdfhgfd [07:10] !asl | maco [07:10] maco: Most of us don't speak American Sign Language, please try english instead. ✌ [07:10] haha [07:10] i do though! [07:10] well i dont speak it. thatd be silly. [07:21] thumb down. index raised. half loop. draw across chest. raise pinkie. full loop. [07:21] not very efficient as a spoken language. [07:22] mneptok: Airplane star thumbs-up mailbox. [07:26] !asl | mneptok [07:26] mneptok: Most of us don't speak American Sign Language, please try english instead. ✌ [07:27] :P [07:27] whats the small character at the end of that factoid I wonder... [07:27] peace sign [07:27] or the letter V [07:28] or the number 2 [07:28] or the same factoid in braille [07:31] * jussi01 curses maco's slow connection :P [07:32] thats the school server! [07:32] also youre not in pm anymore [07:32] hehe [07:32] Anyone know if this has come up before? < alabd> Is it against to ubuntu mailing list license if someone allows that his/her notes/answers be copied into a non-free book ? [07:33] We said IRC logs were public domain, right? [07:34] tonyyarusso: hrm, interesting questions. Im pretty sure the answer is yes on the logs, not sure on the ML. dont quote me as Im not certain [07:38] I ask again - has the release manager been asked about whether they plan to announce in -r-p again in addition to the normal mailing list? [07:39] good morning [07:41] hiya daniel [07:42] tonyyarusso: who is the release manager? [07:42] jussi01: I don't actually know. [07:42] I know who it's been a number of times in the past, but hey [07:42] dholbach: do you knwo? [07:43] slangasek [07:43] but there's a bunch of others on the release team [07:43] cjwatson, pitti and a few others [07:44] righto [07:44] right, tonyyarusso, can I delegate this to you to follow up and ask/ffind out? [07:44] yeah [07:44] thanks a lot [07:45] bothering slangasek on release day is a Bad Idea(r) [07:45] eh, I already did it once :P [07:45] As long as you don't actually expect an answer quickly and aren't annoying he doesn't seem to bite too hard [07:46] too hard :D [07:46] what do you guys need? [07:46] dholbach: donuts and ponies! [07:46] dholbach: [09:38:31] I ask again - has the release manager been asked about whether they plan to announce in -r-p again in addition to the normal mailing list? [07:46] just asking in #ubuntu-release might help already [07:47] tonyyarusso: ^^ [07:47] did that - got "uh, probably, but I don't know if anyone's actually asked" [07:47] or just refresh http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/9.10/ every few minutes [07:47] !f5 | mneptok :P [07:47] mneptok :P: Remember that every time you hit refresh, Canonical is wasting money, bandwidth, and CPU time serving your request instead of doing useful things like uploading the image or paying for ShipIt disks. Please do so sparingly. [07:48] tonyyarusso: i think Canonical would rather we bother the servers than the release manager [07:48] mneptok: may be true, hrm [07:48] I plan on getting some sleep though between now and then [07:49] meh, 30 sec's of slangaseks time vs 1000 refreshes... [07:49] He can always ignore me. [07:49] * tonyyarusso tries super-quick [07:50] dholbach: does Matt Nuzum idle on Freenode? he's got to be one of the first to know, and less likely to be as busy as Steve on release day. [07:51] #ubuntu-website [07:52] tonyyarusso: you might want to ask newz2000 in -website to let you know. [07:52] tonyyarusso: he'll have slightly more free mental bandwidth and will be among the forst to know. [07:52] *first [07:52] 'k [07:53] tell him that by keeping you informed it will annoy me greatly. he'll tell you within microseconds of release. ;) [07:54] aww, mneptok's making friends. === dholbach_ is now known as dholbach [08:12] Got a confirmation from slangasek that the announcement will be taken care of. [08:12] and with that, I'm going to try to catch a few winks. [08:12] tonyyarusso: goodnight [08:13] * jussi01 giggles at slangasek in -r-p [08:15] i'd /join -r-p, but there's a loaded shotgun in our house [08:15] -rp must be the worst irc channel i have ever visited [08:17] topyli: its rather silly, but it serves a purpose. [08:19] In #ubuntu-release-party, prateek said: !it is out [08:21] jussi01, sure. two in fact: it reduces noise elsewhere, and it also *is* a celebration of sorts [09:03] Hi, barneystinson bergjoha and possibly some others appear to be the same person up to no good [09:04] (and speaking german after being directed to #ubuntu-de) [09:04] oops nevermind, thanks Flannel [09:06] is it out yet :) [09:07] /abr ikonia [09:07] oh, er, [09:07] ha ha [09:07] I fail to see how so many people are incable of checking a website, yet think they can use a new operating system [09:08] ikonia: Or even the topic [09:11] how did rww just op in release part without a members cloak [09:11] ikonia: he didn't. He /part requested by rww: yadda yadda [09:12] ahhhh [09:12] I'm being dumb now [09:12] ikonia: He's a tricky fellow. [09:13] no, I'm just thick [09:58] ikonia: Attack? [09:58] Oh,facebook it seems [09:59] PartyBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (mass join) [09:59] looking too [10:00] Apparently jono's facebook link includes that nick as a suggestion or something [10:00] I'm getting very tired about indus [10:01] That'll be fun for the next few hours [10:01] I think it's a stupid thing to do to be honest [10:02] blah [10:03] ok - I'm suggesting +b on partyanimal [10:03] it's getting stupid [10:04] I'd second that [10:04] I'll get jono in here [10:04] he's "sanctioned" it [10:04] He's caused stupidity [10:04] I %100 concur [10:05] We should stop it, and talk to him while it's +b so the channel can be usable [10:05] I can't op in ther [10:05] there [10:05] or I would [10:05] wgrant seems keen to let it continue - I'll ask him to join too [10:05] ikonia: You can't? Oh, I will [10:05] not wearing a member cloak [10:05] +b partyanimal*!*@* right? [10:06] correct [10:07] hey wgrant [10:07] ikonia: Hi there. [10:07] thanks for joining, I've also sent a message for jono too [10:07] Quieting down a bit now, fortunately. [10:07] wgrant: only because flannel +b it [10:07] wanted to have a chat about it if possible [10:08] need to chat quick as +b on partyanimal* is not good if jono is inviting [10:08] anything we can do to control this better as it's hitting the channel stupid [10:09] any thoughts ? [10:10] No idea. [10:10] ahhh 9.10 just been delayed indefinatly [10:10] 9.04, actually! [10:10] Somebody should fix that. [10:10] ok - well jono's not responding to pm or not joining so I don't know if we can get him to do something with the facebook page [10:11] Flannel: want to try -b now see if it's "ok" ? [10:11] mrhgmghmmm [10:11] Alright [10:11] just thinking out loud [10:11] don't have to [10:12] PartyBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (mass join) [10:12] Hrm. [10:12] Ahaha. [10:12] cjwatson trying to escape. [10:13] I'm thinking qwebirc is sort of borderline too. Just the nick. [10:13] ok that didn't work [10:13] any thoughts ? [10:13] I can't get jono to respond [10:13] not sure how to progress ? [10:13] We really need people to have their own nicks, or else it becomes impossible to keep track [10:13] Right. [10:13] He just needs to ask people to come up with nicks isntead of giving the defaults/etc [10:14] plus the freenode webchat links are nuts [10:14] I don't know how immutable that post is. [10:14] in honesty I don't see the need for the post [10:14] Maybe if we fill jono's screen up with flashing PMs, he will realise. [10:14] ha ha ha [10:14] Twitter too. [10:14] Oh. god. [10:15] JONO !!!!!! [10:15] this seems very ill thought out [10:16] someone may want to update the -r-p topic to state it's delayed for the very few who do read the topic [10:17] good god. Some people just don't think. [10:17] ikonia: ... it's not delayed. [10:17] wgrant: really ?? party bot just announced it [10:17] Ha ha ha. [10:17] oh it was jaunty [10:17] sorry [10:17] now I've clicked what you said earlier [10:18] Flannel / wgrant until jono responds I suggest we leave +b in place - thoughts ? [10:18] ikonia: I concur. And likely afterwards too. [10:18] ikonia: Agreed. [10:18] But this must be discussed with jono. [10:19] I know it's not really the right thing to do placing +b while jono's inviting mass joins, but I can't think of a better thing to do [10:19] (channel is logged so trying to explain actions) [10:19] ok, that channel is nuts [10:19] PartyBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (mass join) [10:19] "must" is strong [10:19] but yeah, we do what we have to do to make it usable. [10:19] for some values of usable. [10:19] as I said I'm open to suggestions [10:20] The Twitter link appears to not have a nick set, which is good. [10:20] ikonia: No, I think this is really the only thing we can do. [10:20] We could forward unregged too I guess [10:20] well that won't be a problem if twitter doesn't have nick set as we can't +b every nick [10:20] but that seems too extreme [10:21] Flannel: agreed at this time [10:22] It'd be nice if we could get partybot to ignore mass join (or set it's limit higher) too [10:22] I suspect there will be ircc/cc fall out of the fact that we've just banned jono's invitations [10:23] I'm going to inform the council channel that we've done than so they know as they are going to get hit with this no doubt [10:23] ikonia: I'm not so sure [10:23] ikonia: I don't think its going to be as big of an issue as we're worried it'll be. Unless there's history I'm not aware of [10:23] PartyBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (mass join) [10:24] Without the bans, its totally unusable, with the bans, it's more usable. Who cares if they can join a channel where they only see scrolling? [10:24] howdy [10:24] FloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (mass join) [10:24] hiya jono [10:24] hey eviljussi01 [10:25] I just got bck from lunch, and seems omethings up... [10:25] what? [10:25] no, idea, seems a lot of backlog here [10:25] Flannel: ikonia: fill me in? [10:25] ikonia: ping you away from your email [10:25] yes [10:25] back [10:26] * Tm_T pours gasoline into eviljussi01 [10:26] filled! [10:26] oops [10:26] that wasnt supposed to work... [10:26] Evil indeed. [10:26] jono: thanks for joining we put +b on partyanimals* on #ubuntu-release-party to try to get some form of use out of the channel [10:27] the invite you sent out was causing the channel to become more of a mess than it was already in, [10:27] ikonia, really? [10:27] yes [10:27] wanted to chat to you to see if there was any better way to do this [10:27] a [10:27] mass join of many partyanimal* nicks wasn't good [10:27] ikonia, well, a bunch of people joined at the same time [10:28] yes, and kept joining until we put the +b on [10:28] and now I have posted an url where people can pick their own nick [10:28] ahhh so you've updated the facebook page (I know you did on twitter) [10:29] I couldnt update the FB, will post another message to correct [10:29] eviljussi01: I'll forgive thise time [10:29] that would be cool and very helpful [10:29] I guess give it a few minutes after that post and remove the +b ? [10:29] ikonia, thanks! [10:29] ikonia, good idea :) [10:29] sorry folks [10:29] my bad [10:29] thanks jono [10:30] give us a nudge when the new pages is up [10:30] ikonia: I don't think we ened to remove the +bs [10:30] Flannel: ok - I guess if no-one is using the nick any more it won't hurt to leave it for a while at least [10:30] ikonia: People who don't get the update ... should read the update. People who don't pick a nick (qwebirc) are still banned until they pick one [10:31] I can see your logic [10:31] ikonia, done [10:31] jono: are you ok with that ? [10:31] whatever you feel is best :) [10:31] We're still going to have a hell of a time policing. Already getting abuse, and with the FB out of comission, we're going to have to manually police flood too. [10:31] ok, great [10:31] :) [10:31] Flannel: it's best efforts I guess, it is release-party after all [10:32] ikonia: It'd be nice to get rid of the emergency mode on PartyBot though [10:32] ha ha, yes [10:32] I can't see a way around that [10:33] +b on /whatever/freenode/whatever/asdlkfja;sdkfj;sdf is a proper ban? or do we ban hash@*? [10:33] I guess all the web clients are jono's invite guys [10:33] Is emergency mode the +rR? [10:33] wgrant: That's whats going on there, yeah. [10:33] wgrant: and then it won't +zb flooders (but does -zb them after they're finished) [10:34] PartyBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (mass join) [10:34] ikonia, yeah they are web people [10:34] Flannel: Ah, I see. [10:34] don't ban that host [10:34] FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (mass join) [10:34] jono: god no [10:34]