[00:10] <tonyyarusso> Speaking of the release manager (-r-p convo), do we have them lined up to announce in there when appropriate?
[00:18] <tonyyarusso> nalioth: I could be useful to have ubot3 syncing the factoids db more often today since it's the one in #u-r-p, if that's possible.
[00:20] <nalioth> tonyyarusso: more often than every hour?
[00:20] <tonyyarusso> nalioth: is it really that much?  Seemed like it wasn't grabbing something, but I guess I haven't checked systematically...
[00:20] <tonyyarusso> (memory thought it was once a day anyway, so bleh)
[00:20] <nalioth> :)
[00:21] <nalioth> it syncs to the main db every 59 minutes
[00:21] <tonyyarusso> okie dokie - nvm me then
[00:40] <Flannel> u-r-p isn't +c do we care?
[00:41] <Pici> Not until people start abusing it
[00:41] <Pici> It also was -t earlier.
[00:41] <Pici> and +s
[00:42] <Flannel> That channel is mos eisley anyway.  The current conversation there makes me question whether we should still entertain it.
[00:43] <Flannel> er, not current, but the past few hours
[00:43] <Pici> It'll be worse later
[00:54] <Amaranth> dang ohmy
[00:55] <Amaranth> I really want to tell -release-party I've got a bottle of jack and my finger on the ban button ;)
[00:55] <Flannel> Amaranth: eh?
[00:55] <Amaranth> Flannel: It's a party :)
[00:55] <Pici> Amaranth: hehe
[00:55] <Flannel> Amaranth: So go ahead :)
[00:56] <Flannel> I've tried to keep a "it's a party, let things slide" attitude, but a couple of people are close to being banned regardless.
[00:56] <Pici> agreed
[00:56] <Amaranth> Flannel: The problem is telling the difference between "it's a party, I'm having fun" and "I'm screwing with all of you"
[00:57] <Flannel> Amaranth: right.
[00:57] <Amaranth> Like the guy seemingly lifted right out of 4chan
[00:57] <Flannel> Mhmm.
[00:57] <Amaranth> @login
[00:57] <ubot3> In #ubuntu-release-party, Inphoar said: ubot3 is still here, and when PartyBot1 is gone, there's no telling what he'll do.
[00:57] <Amaranth> !areyousure-#ubuntu-release-party is <reply>Yes, I'm sure.
[00:58] <Amaranth> oh, wait, ubot3
[00:58] <Amaranth> dang
[00:58] <Flannel> It'll sync hourly
[00:59] <Flannel> Howdy h00k, how can we help you today?
[00:59] <h00k> hello Flannel!
[00:59] <h00k> I was wondering the proper steps to consider before asking to voulenteer for the job of helping out as an op.
[00:59] <h00k> *volunteer
[01:03] <Amaranth> ha, ajmitch is going to ban me
[01:03] <h00k> orly, this I'd like to see.
[01:04] <Amaranth> Think we should just stay +o? Cuts down on the traffic with the +o/-o and will hopefully make people less crazy
[01:05] <h00k> Flannel: I also understand that you guys are busy everywhere
[01:05] <h00k> s/guys/guys-and-gals
[01:05] <Pici> h00k: At this time we're not accepting volunteer operators. Normally when we have the need for more we look to the contributing members of our community.
[01:05] <Flannel> h00k: Someone who knows the answer will be able to answer you.
[01:05] <h00k> Pici: okay, thanks for the info!
[01:09] <Flannel> Maybe we need to come up with activities and games to play for -release-party.  It works for eight year olds...
[01:09] <Pici> good idea
[01:11] <Pici> Thanks for volunteering to come up with ideas too
[01:12] <Flannel> :P
[01:12] <Amaranth> if the bot is going to be muting people and setting +z I'm going to stay +o while I'm around
[01:18] <ubot3> In #ubuntu-release-party, rickspencer3 said: ubot3, when is supposed to be out?
[01:22] <tonyyarusso> Flannel: that is actually a good idea
[01:22] <Pici> jono... hah
[01:22] <Flannel> tonyyarusso: Yeah.  I'm just not sure what sort of fun activities we could do.
[01:23] <Flannel> Having a bunch of competitions or something would certainly keep people busy, and probably be fun.
[01:23] <Pici> I have a very very large trivia file if someone has a working bot (the questions are hard though)
[01:26] <krummlauf> hi
[01:26] <Flannel> Howdy krummlauf, how can we help you today?
[01:34] <Amaranth> This is getting insane way too quickly
[01:37] <Pici> Amaranth: That was the guy who kept asking about the pirate bay link
[01:37] <Amaranth> oh, ok then
[01:39] <niko> oh, Scientologist in #ubuntu-release-party
[01:41] <niko> do you needs help in #ubuntu-release-party ?
[01:42] <nalioth> niko: you are on the access list (twice)
[01:54] <Pici> the partybot is attracting the trolls
[02:04] <Pici> !away > EsmD
[02:08] <MenZa> krummlauf: Can we help you?
[02:09]  * MenZa jabs krummlauf with a pointy stick.
[02:18] <krummlauf> o sorry
[02:18] <krummlauf> i got banned or somethin
[02:18] <krummlauf> for sayin HAIL SATAN on accident
[02:18] <krummlauf> can i go back to the channel
[02:20] <krummlauf> i think ikonia did it or somethin
[02:22] <krummlauf> it was on mistake i dont mean bad
[02:27] <tonyyarusso> nalioth: Does ubot3 have a different way of handling overlap with !info than ubottu?
[02:31] <ubot3> In #ubuntu-release-party, d1b said: ubot3: pizza_party is http://www.beigerecords.com/cory/Things_I_Made/PizzaParty
[02:35] <krummlauf> i didnt mean bad
[02:35] <krummlauf> am i banished forever to this realm of nod?
[02:46] <Dasda> hey anyone here? i need to test if the dcc exploit wont work on me
[02:47] <Flannel> Dasda: You've passed/been removed from the looks of things
[02:47] <Dasda> ok
[02:47] <Dasda> thanks
[02:47] <Flannel> Hmm, or maybe not.
[02:47] <Flannel> Oooh
[02:47] <Dasda> my router doesn't have new firmware
[02:47] <Dasda> im on port 8001
[02:47] <Dasda> is there a way i could do this for other servers too? i have always had this problem and never known what caused it
[02:48] <Dasda> mostly efnet
[02:48] <Flannel> Dasda: Try asking for a test again in -read-topic
[02:48] <Flannel> Dasda: If they support a non-6667 port, use that
[02:49] <Dasda> ok, nothing else I can do though other than get a new router then right?
[02:49] <Dasda> the test still doesn't work
[02:49] <Flannel> Assuming its your router and you can't upgrade to firmware that isn't vulnerable, yeah.
[02:49] <Dasda> "<@FloodBotK1> Dasda: Sorry, but I am unable to test you (are you using your usual nickname?). Please contact the operators (type « /topic » to find out how)."
[02:50] <Flannel> Dasda: right, ignore that
[02:50] <Flannel> You're good it looks like
[02:50] <Dasda> ok
[02:50] <Dasda> cool
[02:50] <Dasda> i guess ill follow rules and leave since my issue has been dealt with
[02:50] <Dasda> thanks alot
[02:50] <Flannel> Dasda: Although, changing your user from "Suck a dick" might be nice too.
[02:50] <Dasda> lol
[02:50] <Dasda> ok
[02:50] <Dasda> sure
[02:50] <Dasda> give me sec
[02:52] <Dasda> good now? flannel?
[02:52] <Flannel> Dasda: Aye.  I was just mentioning it offhand anyway
[02:54] <Dasda> yeah you aren't first though, i was always hesitant because it required me to disconnect and connect again right at the moment then I always forgot later on
[02:54] <Dasda> thanks alot for the info, its really nice that ubuntu users help in everything
[02:55] <Flannel> Dasda: No problem
[02:55] <Dasda> take care
[02:55] <Flannel> You too
[03:06] <tonyyarusso> I wonder why they don't password-protect the bits of the server used for staging - I'm sure the mirroring stuff knows how to do basic auth
[03:25] <Amaranth> afaik it's just rsync
[03:26] <nhandler> tonyyarusso: There isn't a need to, there is nothing that needs to be kept private
[03:27] <tonyyarusso> nhandler: I meant for preventing people from loading down the servers while they're trying to sync by grabbing things right now
[03:28] <tonyyarusso> nhandler: btw while you're here - who's in charge of the .ics for Open Week?  It doesn't seem right.  (Or I'm just crazy)
[03:29] <nhandler> tonyyarusso: I commented on that a day or so ago. I'll poke amber and jorge again about it tomorrow (they are handling all of the Open Week stuff)
[03:29] <tonyyarusso> So it's not just me?  Yay
[03:29] <krummlauf> i need help
[03:29] <krummlauf> i aint bad
[03:29] <krummlauf> they say im bad but i know i aint
[03:29] <krummlauf> im good
[03:40] <Flannel> !away > kisuke
[03:41] <Flannel> krummlauf: Hi.  I think you're waiting on ikonia?
[03:50] <nalioth> krummlauf: is there any further we can help you with?
[03:53] <Flannel> Odd.
[03:53] <Flannel> #ubuntu-release-fiesta looks non-malicious
[03:54] <tonyyarusso> fiesta?
[03:55] <tonyyarusso> Is it Spanish?
[03:55] <Flannel> Yeah.
[03:55] <Flannel> It's the clone flood that was just reported
[03:55] <Flannel> advertisement, that is.
[03:56] <Flannel> I expected to join and get attacked by ads or something
[06:01] <vox> what's the deal with "omg its out!!eleven1111" people in #ubuntu? tell them it's not(yet) and if they dont shush, remove them?
[06:02] <bazhang> judgment call imo
[06:02] <vox> nod
[06:02] <bazhang> kewlbns is seriously annoying though
[06:02] <vox> i wasnt sure if there was an offical stance or not
[06:03] <Flannel> vox: Yeah.  If they're being disruptive/annoying, warn, then remove, just like always
[06:03] <Flannel> Although I suppose in this case also advertise #ubuntu-release-party
[06:04] <vox> nod
[06:06] <jussi01> Yes, push them to #ubuntu-release-party
[06:07] <jussi01> If you have to ban, then banforward to release party.
[07:00] <maco> user "ubuntu" in #kubuntu is PMing me and asking "asl"
[07:00] <maco> i'm playing dumb and interpreting this as "american sign language"
[07:04] <ubot3> In ubot3, prateek said: it is out
[07:04] <ubot3> In ubot3, prateek said: it is dskhfkdfhgfd
[07:10] <Flannel> !asl | maco
[07:10] <maco> haha
[07:10] <maco> i do though!
[07:10] <maco> well i dont speak it. thatd be silly.
[07:21] <mneptok> thumb down. index raised. half loop. draw across chest. raise pinkie. full loop.
[07:21] <mneptok> not very efficient as a spoken language.
[07:22] <Flannel> mneptok: Airplane star thumbs-up mailbox.
[07:26] <jussi01> !asl | mneptok
[07:27] <jussi01> :P
[07:27] <jussi01> whats the small character at the end of that factoid I wonder...
[07:27] <maco> peace sign
[07:27] <maco> or the letter V
[07:28] <maco> or the number 2
[07:28] <topyli> or the same factoid in braille
[07:31]  * jussi01 curses maco's slow connection :P
[07:32] <maco> thats the school  server!
[07:32] <maco> also youre not in pm anymore
[07:32] <jussi01> hehe
[07:32] <tonyyarusso> Anyone know if this has come up before?  < alabd> Is it against to ubuntu mailing list license if someone allows that his/her notes/answers be copied into a non-free book ?
[07:33] <tonyyarusso> We said IRC logs were public domain, right?
[07:34] <jussi01> tonyyarusso: hrm, interesting questions. Im pretty sure the answer is yes on the logs, not sure on the ML. dont quote me as Im not certain
[07:38] <tonyyarusso> I ask again - has the release manager been asked about whether they plan to announce in -r-p again in addition to the normal mailing list?
[07:39] <dholbach> good morning
[07:41] <jussi01> hiya daniel
[07:42] <jussi01> tonyyarusso: who is the release manager?
[07:42] <tonyyarusso> jussi01: I don't actually know.
[07:42] <tonyyarusso> I know who it's been a number of times in the past, but hey
[07:42] <jussi01> dholbach: do you knwo?
[07:43] <dholbach> slangasek
[07:43] <dholbach> but there's a bunch of others on the release team
[07:43] <dholbach> cjwatson, pitti and a few others
[07:44] <tonyyarusso> righto
[07:44] <jussi01> right, tonyyarusso, can I delegate this to you to follow up and ask/ffind out?
[07:44] <tonyyarusso> yeah
[07:44] <jussi01> thanks a lot
[07:45] <mneptok> bothering slangasek on release day is a Bad Idea(r)
[07:45] <tonyyarusso> eh, I already did it once :P
[07:45] <tonyyarusso> As long as you don't actually expect an answer quickly and aren't annoying he doesn't seem to bite too hard
[07:46] <jussi01> too hard :D
[07:46] <dholbach> what do you guys need?
[07:46] <mneptok> dholbach: donuts and ponies!
[07:46] <jussi01> dholbach:  [09:38:31] <tonyyarusso> I ask again - has the release manager been asked about whether they plan to announce in -r-p again in addition to the normal mailing list?
[07:46] <dholbach> just asking in #ubuntu-release might help already
[07:47] <jussi01> tonyyarusso: ^^
[07:47] <tonyyarusso> did that - got "uh, probably, but I don't know if anyone's actually asked"
[07:47] <mneptok> or just refresh http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/9.10/ every few minutes
[07:47] <tonyyarusso> !f5 | mneptok :P
[07:48] <mneptok> tonyyarusso: i think Canonical would rather we bother the servers than the release manager
[07:48] <tonyyarusso> mneptok: may be true, hrm
[07:48] <tonyyarusso> I plan on getting some sleep though between now and then
[07:49] <jussi01> meh, 30 sec's of slangaseks time vs 1000 refreshes...
[07:49] <tonyyarusso> He can always ignore me.
[07:49]  * tonyyarusso tries super-quick
[07:50] <mneptok> dholbach: does Matt Nuzum idle on Freenode? he's got to be one of the first to know, and less likely to be as busy as Steve on release day.
[07:51] <dholbach> #ubuntu-website
[07:52] <mneptok> tonyyarusso: you might want to ask newz2000 in -website to let you know.
[07:52] <mneptok> tonyyarusso: he'll have slightly more free mental bandwidth and will be among the forst to know.
[07:52] <mneptok> *first
[07:52] <tonyyarusso> 'k
[07:53] <mneptok> tell him that by keeping you informed it will annoy me greatly. he'll tell you within microseconds of release. ;)
[07:54] <Flannel> aww, mneptok's making friends.
[08:12] <tonyyarusso> Got a confirmation from slangasek that the announcement will be taken care of.
[08:12] <tonyyarusso> and with that, I'm going to try to catch a few winks.
[08:12] <jussi01> tonyyarusso: goodnight
[08:13]  * jussi01 giggles at slangasek in -r-p
[08:15] <mneptok> i'd /join -r-p, but there's a loaded shotgun in our house
[08:15] <topyli> -rp must be the worst irc channel i have ever visited
[08:17] <jussi01> topyli: its rather silly, but it serves a purpose.
[08:19] <ubot3> In #ubuntu-release-party, prateek said: !it is out
[08:21] <topyli> jussi01, sure. two in fact: it reduces noise elsewhere, and it also *is* a celebration of sorts
[09:03] <ziroday> Hi, barneystinson bergjoha and possibly some others appear to be the same person up to no good
[09:04] <ziroday> (and speaking german after being directed to #ubuntu-de)
[09:04] <ziroday> oops nevermind, thanks Flannel
[09:06] <ikonia> is it out yet :)
[09:07] <Flannel>  /abr ikonia
[09:07] <Flannel> oh, er,
[09:07] <ikonia> ha ha
[09:07] <ikonia> I fail to see how so many people are incable of checking a website, yet think they can use a new operating system
[09:08] <Flannel> ikonia: Or even the topic
[09:11] <ikonia> how did rww just op in release part without a members cloak
[09:11] <Flannel> ikonia: he didn't.  He /part requested by rww: yadda yadda
[09:12] <ikonia> ahhhh
[09:12] <ikonia> I'm being dumb now
[09:12] <Flannel> ikonia: He's a tricky fellow.
[09:13] <ikonia> no, I'm just thick
[09:58] <Flannel> ikonia: Attack?
[09:58] <Flannel> Oh,facebook it seems
[09:59] <ikonia> looking too
[10:00] <Flannel> Apparently jono's facebook link includes that nick as a suggestion or something
[10:00] <ikonia> I'm getting very tired about indus
[10:01] <Flannel> That'll be fun for the next few hours
[10:01] <ikonia> I think it's a stupid thing to do to be honest
[10:02] <Flannel> blah
[10:03] <ikonia> ok - I'm suggesting +b on partyanimal
[10:03] <ikonia> it's getting stupid
[10:04] <Flannel> I'd second that
[10:04] <ikonia> I'll get jono in here
[10:04] <ikonia> he's "sanctioned" it
[10:04] <Flannel> He's caused stupidity
[10:04] <ikonia> I %100 concur
[10:05] <Flannel> We should stop it, and talk to him while it's +b so the channel can be usable
[10:05] <ikonia> I can't op in ther
[10:05] <ikonia> there
[10:05] <ikonia> or I would
[10:05] <ikonia> wgrant seems keen to let it continue - I'll ask him to join too
[10:05] <Flannel> ikonia: You can't?  Oh, I will
[10:05] <ikonia> not wearing a member cloak
[10:05] <Flannel> +b partyanimal*!*@* right?
[10:06] <ikonia> correct
[10:07] <ikonia> hey wgrant
[10:07] <wgrant> ikonia: Hi there.
[10:07] <ikonia> thanks for joining, I've also sent a message for jono too
[10:07] <wgrant> Quieting down a bit now, fortunately.
[10:07] <ikonia> wgrant: only because flannel +b it
[10:07] <ikonia> wanted to have a chat about it if possible
[10:08] <ikonia> need to chat quick as +b on partyanimal* is not good if jono is inviting
[10:08] <ikonia> anything we can do to control this better as it's hitting the channel stupid
[10:09] <ikonia> any thoughts ?
[10:10] <wgrant> No idea.
[10:10] <ikonia> ahhh 9.10 just been delayed indefinatly
[10:10] <wgrant> 9.04, actually!
[10:10] <wgrant> Somebody should fix that.
[10:10] <ikonia> ok - well jono's not responding to pm or not joining so I don't know if we can get him to do something with the facebook page
[10:11] <ikonia> Flannel: want to try -b now see if it's "ok" ?
[10:11] <Flannel> mrhgmghmmm
[10:11] <Flannel> Alright
[10:11] <ikonia> just thinking out loud
[10:11] <ikonia> don't have to
[10:12] <wgrant> Hrm.
[10:12] <wgrant> Ahaha.
[10:12] <wgrant> cjwatson trying to escape.
[10:13] <Flannel> I'm thinking qwebirc is sort of borderline too.  Just the nick.
[10:13] <ikonia> ok that didn't work
[10:13] <ikonia> any thoughts ?
[10:13] <ikonia> I can't get jono to respond
[10:13] <ikonia> not sure how to progress ?
[10:13] <Flannel> We really need people to have their own nicks, or else it becomes impossible to keep track
[10:13] <wgrant> Right.
[10:13] <Flannel> He just needs to ask people to come up with nicks isntead of giving the defaults/etc
[10:14] <ikonia> plus the freenode webchat links are nuts
[10:14] <wgrant> I don't know how immutable that post is.
[10:14] <ikonia> in honesty I don't see the need for the post
[10:14] <wgrant> Maybe if we fill jono's screen up with flashing PMs, he will realise.
[10:14] <ikonia> ha ha ha
[10:14] <wgrant> Twitter too.
[10:14] <wgrant> Oh. god.
[10:15] <ikonia> JONO !!!!!!
[10:15] <ikonia> this seems very ill thought out
[10:16] <ikonia> someone may want to update the -r-p topic to state it's delayed for the very few who do read the topic
[10:17] <Flannel> good god.  Some people just don't think.
[10:17] <wgrant> ikonia: ... it's not delayed.
[10:17] <ikonia> wgrant: really ?? party bot just announced it
[10:17] <wgrant> Ha ha ha.
[10:17] <ikonia> oh it was jaunty
[10:17] <ikonia> sorry
[10:17] <ikonia> now I've clicked what you said earlier
[10:18] <ikonia> Flannel / wgrant until jono responds I suggest we leave +b in place - thoughts ?
[10:18] <Flannel> ikonia: I concur.  And likely afterwards too.
[10:18] <wgrant> ikonia: Agreed.
[10:18] <wgrant> But this must be discussed with jono.
[10:19] <ikonia> I know it's not really the right thing to do placing +b while jono's inviting mass joins, but I can't think of a better thing to do
[10:19] <ikonia> (channel is logged so trying to explain actions)
[10:19] <Tm_T> ok, that channel is nuts
[10:19] <Flannel> "must" is strong
[10:19] <Flannel> but yeah, we do what we have to do to make it usable.
[10:19] <Flannel> for some values of usable.
[10:19] <ikonia> as I said I'm open to suggestions
[10:20] <wgrant> The Twitter link appears to not have a nick set, which is good.
[10:20] <Flannel> ikonia: No, I think this is really the only thing we can do.
[10:20] <Flannel> We could forward unregged too I guess
[10:20] <ikonia> well that won't be a problem if twitter doesn't have  nick set as we can't +b every nick
[10:20] <Flannel> but that seems too extreme
[10:21] <ikonia> Flannel: agreed at this time
[10:22] <Flannel> It'd be nice if we could get partybot to ignore mass join (or set it's limit higher) too
[10:22] <ikonia> I suspect there will be ircc/cc fall out of the fact that we've just banned jono's invitations
[10:23] <ikonia> I'm going to inform the council channel that we've done than so they know as they are going to get hit with this no doubt
[10:23] <Flannel> ikonia: I'm not so sure
[10:23] <Flannel> ikonia: I don't think its going to be as big of an issue as we're worried it'll be.  Unless there's history I'm not aware of
[10:24] <Flannel> Without the bans, its totally unusable, with the bans, it's more usable.  Who cares  if they can join a channel where they only see scrolling?
[10:24] <jono> howdy
[10:24] <eviljussi01> hiya jono
[10:24] <jono> hey eviljussi01
[10:25] <eviljussi01> I just got bck from lunch, and seems omethings up...
[10:25] <jono> what?
[10:25] <eviljussi01> no, idea, seems a lot of backlog here
[10:25] <eviljussi01> Flannel: ikonia: fill me in?
[10:25] <Flannel> ikonia: ping you away from your email
[10:25] <ikonia> yes
[10:25] <ikonia> back
[10:26]  * Tm_T pours gasoline into eviljussi01 
[10:26] <Tm_T> filled!
[10:26] <eviljussi01> oops
[10:26] <eviljussi01> that wasnt supposed to work...
[10:26] <wgrant> Evil indeed.
[10:26] <ikonia> jono: thanks for joining we put +b on partyanimals* on #ubuntu-release-party to try to get some form of use out of the channel
[10:27] <ikonia> the invite you sent out was causing the channel to become more of a mess than it was already in,
[10:27] <jono> ikonia, really?
[10:27] <ikonia> yes
[10:27] <ikonia> wanted to chat to you to see if there was any better way to do this
[10:27] <Tm_T> a
[10:27] <ikonia> mass join of many partyanimal* nicks wasn't good
[10:27] <jono> ikonia, well, a bunch of people joined at the same time
[10:28] <ikonia> yes, and kept joining until we put the +b on
[10:28] <jono> and now I have posted an url where people can pick their own nick
[10:28] <ikonia> ahhh so you've updated the facebook page (I know you did on twitter)
[10:29] <jono> I couldnt update the FB, will post another message to correct
[10:29] <Tm_T> eviljussi01: I'll forgive thise time
[10:29] <ikonia> that would be cool and very helpful
[10:29] <ikonia> I guess give it a few minutes after that post and remove the +b ?
[10:29] <jono> ikonia, thanks!
[10:29] <jono> ikonia, good idea :)
[10:29] <jono> sorry folks
[10:29] <jono> my bad
[10:29] <ikonia> thanks jono
[10:30] <ikonia> give us a nudge when the new pages is up
[10:30] <Flannel> ikonia: I don't think we ened to remove the +bs
[10:30] <ikonia> Flannel: ok - I guess if no-one is using the nick any more it won't hurt to leave it for a while at least
[10:30] <Flannel> ikonia: People who don't get the update ... should read the update.  People who don't pick a nick (qwebirc) are still banned until they pick one
[10:31] <ikonia> I can see your logic
[10:31] <jono> ikonia, done
[10:31] <ikonia> jono: are you ok with that ?
[10:31] <jono> whatever you feel is best :)
[10:31] <Flannel> We're still going to have a hell of a time policing.  Already getting abuse, and with the FB out of comission, we're going to have to manually police flood too.
[10:31] <ikonia> ok, great
[10:31] <jono> :)
[10:31] <ikonia> Flannel: it's best efforts I guess, it is release-party after all
[10:32] <Flannel> ikonia: It'd be nice to get rid of the emergency mode on PartyBot though
[10:32] <ikonia> ha ha, yes
[10:32] <ikonia> I can't see a way around that
[10:33] <Flannel> +b on /whatever/freenode/whatever/asdlkfja;sdkfj;sdf is a proper ban? or do we ban hash@*?
[10:33] <ikonia> I guess all the web clients are jono's invite guys
[10:33] <wgrant> Is emergency mode the +rR?
[10:33] <Flannel> wgrant: That's whats going on there, yeah.
[10:33] <Flannel> wgrant: and then it won't +zb flooders (but does -zb them after they're finished)
[10:34] <jono> ikonia, yeah they are web people
[10:34] <wgrant> Flannel: Ah, I see.
[10:34] <jono> don't ban that host
[10:34] <ikonia> jono: god no
[10:34] <jono> :)
[10:35] <Flannel> Is it the ident or the last bit of the hostname that's bannable?
[10:35] <ikonia> hostname
[10:35] <ikonia> I believe
[10:35] <ikonia> where is nalioth when you need him, or Pricey
[10:36] <Flannel> Hellow's just banning like there's no tomorrow.
[10:36] <ikonia> yes
[10:36] <ikonia> I'm about to pm him as he's just banned a whole client of ichat
[10:36] <Flannel> hah
[10:37] <Flannel> I didn't ban ichat because I didn't think he needed to be banned
[10:37] <ikonia> ichat is also an ident of a client as I recall
[10:37] <Flannel> As much as I appreciate the cleanup crew... discretion is good :)
[10:37] <ikonia> the default ident I mean
[10:38] <Flannel> Aye.  Know what you mean
[10:39] <ikonia> no kidding partybot1
[10:40] <Flannel> is Hellow an op anywhere else?
[10:40] <ikonia> don't think so, but don't know
[10:40] <Flannel> or is this is his first time?  He seems way over eager
[10:40] <ikonia> not seen him active in any of the channels he's in
[10:41] <Flannel> Sigh
[10:41] <Flannel> now I'm stuck policing his bans as well as everyone else
[10:41] <ikonia> release-party just gets worse each year
[10:42] <Flannel> 03:42 <Hellow> Noes, you too away my banhammer!
[10:42] <Flannel> I told him he can't ban anymore, only kick/remove.
[10:42] <bazhang> heh
[10:43]  * ikonia is dissapointed in zetheroo1
[10:45] <Flannel> blah
[10:45] <Flannel> nimp crap
[10:46] <ikonia> Flannel: you're fulltime on -r-p enjoy :)
[10:46] <Flannel> ikonia: Eh?
[10:46] <Flannel> it's 345 in the morning
[10:46] <Flannel> I was just stretching the gap in the rest of you
[10:46] <ikonia> to late, you've opped, you're resonsible now ;)
[10:47] <ikonia> I saw it, I saw it, it's all you
[10:47] <Flannel> I opped so all this moderation stuff would be one line instead of three
[10:47] <Flannel> When you op for that reason, you *know* something is wrong
[10:48] <ikonia> I'm just kidding you
[10:48] <ikonia> it's a bomb in there
[10:49] <eviljussi01> hrr..
[10:49] <Flannel> Can someone find the pattern in asdasd and altec?
[10:49] <wgrant> Uhoh.
[10:49] <ikonia> ahhh more hands
[10:49] <Flannel> optuscom.au.sometign
[10:49] <ikonia> Flannel: I'm working on him
[10:49] <Flannel> Thanks
[10:49] <ikonia> Flannel: ident seems the same
[10:49] <ikonia> sdfgasd
[10:49] <ikonia> for asdasd
[10:50] <Flannel> Also, for Lucid if we want to omit -release-party, I'm all for it.
[10:51] <wgrant> Then it'll just go to #ubuntu...
[10:51] <ikonia> great, now emma is in
[10:51] <Flannel> She must've woken up.  She was on earlier too
[10:51] <bazhang> yeah protesting
[10:51] <wgrant> Of course.
[10:51] <ikonia> it's fine - if she continues she's gone
[10:52] <ikonia> Flannel: yup, asdasd's ident stays the same
[10:52] <Flannel> er, can you craft the banmask for me?
[10:52] <Flannel> or, wait
[10:52] <ikonia> sure
[10:52] <Flannel> sdfgasd!*@*?
[10:53] <ikonia> other way around
[10:53] <ikonia> *!sdfgasd@*
[10:53] <ikonia> n=sdfgasd
[10:53] <Flannel> *!n=sdfgasd@*?
[10:53] <ikonia> there is as way to do ?=sdfgasd but I can't remember the format
[10:53] <ikonia> eviljussi01: is that right ?
[10:53] <wgrant> Now the Canonicalers roll in...
[10:53] <ikonia> Flannel: yes, that works
[10:54] <ikonia> now people are making up new channels
[10:54] <wgrant> They have been for hours.
[10:57] <ikonia> wgrant: ok - then someone needs to do something about that channel then
[10:58] <wgrant> ikonia: It has been a couple of different channels.
[10:58] <wgrant> I presume they didn't go anywhere.
[10:58] <ikonia> no - they are real
[10:58] <wgrant> Damn :(
[10:59] <ikonia> hello dotwaffle
[10:59] <dotwaffle> Hi there, can someone please confirm ikonia is a registered voice for the Ubuntu IRC channels - I've been asked to close a channel.
[10:59] <Flannel> dotwaffle: Yes.
[10:59] <dotwaffle> Thanks.
[11:00] <gord>  /whois dotwaffle
[11:00] <gord> oop
[11:00] <ikonia> ha ha
[11:00] <bazhang>  #club-release ?
[11:00] <gord> i was jsut being nosey ;)
[11:00] <ikonia> bazhang: don't care about that one
[11:01] <Flannel> Hmm, maybe mute Partybot in -monitor?
[11:02] <Flannel> I don't care how many freenode sessions we have connected, frankly.
[11:02] <ikonia> emma is getting annoying spouting conspiricy theorys about the channel now
[11:02] <ikonia> Flannel: sounds acceptable
[11:02] <Flannel> ikonia: If only I could
[11:02] <ikonia> rats
[11:04] <ikonia> hello TO3000
[11:05] <TO3000> can someone please unblock me from #ubuntu-release-party
[11:05] <ikonia> TO3000: why where you banned ?
[11:05] <TO3000> i posted he out put of a cowsay command and i was blocked for fluding
[11:06] <ikonia> TO3000: ok - why did you do that ?
[11:06] <TO3000> i tought it would be cool
[11:06] <TO3000> i wont do it agein
[11:06] <ikonia> did you read the topic about not flooding the channel ?
[11:07] <Flannel> ikonia: Now you can fiddle too
[11:07]  * Flannel hides
[11:07] <ikonia> damn you
[11:07] <ikonia> TO3000: hello again
[11:07] <TO3000> im sory
[11:08] <ikonia> no problem
[11:08] <TO3000> so could you unblock me
[11:08] <ikonia> TO3000: so if the ban is removed you'll read the /topic in the channel and follow it /
[11:08] <ikonia> ?
[11:09] <TO3000> yes
[11:09] <ikonia> dotwaffel was really helpful and nice
[11:10] <ikonia> TO3000: one moment please
[11:10] <Flannel> ikonia: got it
[11:10] <ikonia> Flannel: thanks !
[11:10] <Flannel> TO3000: Alright, go ahead and rejoin
[11:10] <TO3000> thk you soomuch
[11:11] <Flannel> TO3000: If there's nothing else we can help you with tonight, please /part.  Thanks
[11:11] <TO3000> you are very nice people
[11:11] <Flannel> I can't believe I just recommended #ubuntu as a low-traffic channel
[11:12] <ikonia> ha ha
[11:13] <Flannel> My last ban should snag that guy that keeps joining/posting/leaving (was bae9 apparently)
[11:33] <wgrant> Flannel: That didn't work?
[11:33] <wgrant> (bae9 returned)
[11:33] <bazhang> he just joined spammed -r-p and quit
[11:34] <Flannel> n= vs i=
[11:34] <Flannel> interesting
[11:35] <ikonia> Flannel: ?= should work
[11:35] <Flannel> Or *
[11:35] <ikonia> well....that too
[11:40] <Flannel> I'm sort of concerned that I can keep up.
[11:41] <ikonia> ha ha ha
[11:41] <ikonia> impressive
[11:42] <ikonia> I must eat
[11:42] <wgrant> ikonia: It is forbidden.
[11:42] <wgrant> Flannel: You are gooooood.
[11:42] <Flannel> wgrant: Eh?
[11:43] <wgrant> Flannel: You are incredibly quick at killing them.
[11:43] <Flannel> Oh.  Ninja ops!
[11:44] <Mamarok> that u-r-p channel is completely crazy
[11:44] <ikonia> wgrant: I'm overruling you
[11:45] <wgrant> ikonia: Damn real ops :(
[11:45] <bazhang> heh
[11:45] <Flannel> xukun just advertised -r-p in -r-p
[11:45] <ikonia> idiot
[11:45] <wgrant> Smart.
[11:51] <Flannel> So, at 1000 users, we're +m right? :)
[11:51] <ikonia> I don't know to be honest
[11:51] <Mamarok> well, we will see quite soone, the 960 wall just came down
[11:52] <Mamarok> -e
[11:55] <Tm_T> Flannel: noo, would ruin all the fun
[11:55] <Flannel> Tm_T: I'm thinking +m for five minutes of silence, to reflect on the past 5 years of Ubuntu.  Where we've been, where we're going...
[11:55] <bazhang> oof
[11:56] <Flannel> haha
[11:56] <ikonia> Flannel: I'd support that !
[11:56] <Flannel> Sort of like 4'33"
[11:56] <wgrant> They're getting good this time. Posting preemptively valid links.
[11:56] <ichat> Flannel  - can you unban me in -  ubuntu-release-party ill be good i - prommise :P it was just a silly link that i expacted no-one would take sirrious
[11:56] <ikonia> well as the release is 9.10 - lets have 9 minutes 10 seconds of silence
[11:57] <Flannel> ichat: You posted that it was released, and you were attempting to pretend to be partybot
[11:57] <ichat> Flannel:  - if i had realy wanted it to look - true i could have done better
[11:58] <ichat> it was just to be slly - i though it to be obvious
[11:58] <ikonia> you're manners in #ubuntu are also unacceptable
[11:58] <ikonia> ichat: the topic is obvious and tells you NOT to do that
[11:58] <ichat> if i was mistaking im sorry for it
[11:58] <ikonia> ichat: it explicitly tells you not to do it
[11:58] <ikonia> to quote
[11:58] <ikonia> No posting  of links or claiming it is before the announcement
[11:59] <bazhang> what the heck
[12:00] <wgrant> Beautiful, beautiful silence.
[12:00] <ikonia> Flannel: really ?
[12:00] <bazhang> partybot opped me?
[12:00] <ichat> ikiona - there are way more people who are a bit more rude tha i am at time - specially in ubuntu (a help channel for the love .........  i can get quite agitated if people are being ignorant on perpose...    its YOUR rule to not ask in #ubuntu  - and they still do and you wonder why i get a bit  grumpy about it
[12:00] <ikonia> bazhang: no, I did
[12:00] <Flannel> ikonia: Why not?
[12:00] <jono> Flannel, why have you locked it?
[12:00] <Flannel> sigh
[12:00] <bazhang> ikonia, okay phew
[12:00] <jono> please unlock the channel
[12:01] <ikonia> ichat: that makes no sense, other peoples beahviour is not being discussed here
[12:01] <ichat> ikonia -  the ban also did not take place in #ubuntu -  so why has it to do with a silly joke in a less sirrous rome   like  #release party  (the word even says it all    PARTY
[12:01] <ikonia> ichat: you're not banned in #ubuntu
[12:02] <ikonia> ichat: I'm saying your attitude in #ubuntu is ALSO not acceptable to your behaviour in #ubuntu-release-party
[12:02] <ikonia> ichat: the topic in #ubuntu-release-party clearly says don't say it's out when its not, you did that, you also took it futher to pretend to be a party bot and announce it
[12:04] <ichat> ikonia and i say that it is beside it.. -  ikonia -  maybe you want to mirror me (and filter out -  the times i help poeple in linux irc chans (includng those of ubuntu ... -  i think i helped about  1k  users for every time i told some one too  P...  Of  (for not reading the topic.
[12:04] <ichat> iknonia the ban whas because if a silly ban in a room called party
[12:04] <ikonia> ichat: if you help 1 million users that doesn't give you the right to talk to people as you did, nor miss-lead people as to a release being available
[12:05] <ichat> not in a helpdesk where people are triing to get help .. and others try to be.... less - co-operative
[12:05] <ikonia> ichat: the room called party also has an explicit line in the topic and multiple warnings in channel NOT to post comments sayg it's out
[12:05] <ikonia> ichat: bottom line is - you're out of the party for today
[12:06] <ichat> in that case ikonia - i think youll manage those extra few by yourselfe (if you manage that is
[12:06] <ikonia> ok
[12:07] <ikonia> hello genii
[12:07] <Pici> Weird.  my screen session was down when I logged in.
[12:07] <Pici> :/
[12:07] <ikonia> once every 6 months or so mine dies
[12:08] <Pici> Well, my linode hasn't even been up for 24 hours yet, so....
[12:08] <Pici> how long have the bots been doing the mass join thing?
[12:09] <bazhang> quite some time
[12:09] <ikonia> since jono invited the world to -rp
[12:09] <ikonia> when I say the world I mean facebook and twitter which expand beyond the world
[12:09] <ikonia> interesting how much of an effect it's had
[12:10] <Pici> I mean for #ubuntu
[12:10] <Mamarok> yes, some Martians and Moon dewellers are in, too
[12:10] <ikonia> Pici: oh
[12:11] <ikonia> not noticed in #ubuntu to be honest
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[12:11] <Pici> ikonia: did jussi talk to you about xorred?
[12:11] <ikonia> yes yes
[12:11] <ikonia> the ban has been removed
[12:12] <Pici> the floodbots are going nuts
[12:13] <wgrant> Yup.
[12:13] <wgrant> And there's still quite a while to go.
[12:13] <ikonia> yes, I wonder if -rp is having an effect
[12:15] <Mamarok> somebody kick that 4r-tech guy, now he is calling names
[12:16] <Mamarok> thx
[12:16] <Pici> Mamarok: you have rights there now
[12:16] <Mamarok> Pici: thx :)
[12:17] <Pici> Anyone else who needs it let me know.
[12:17] <ikonia> Pici: can you update me please so I can deop
[12:17] <Pici> ikonia: done
[12:17] <ikonia> ta
[12:18] <ikonia> perfect
[12:20] <Pici> vox: ty
[12:20] <vox> <3
[12:21] <ikonia> ban list full
[12:21] <ikonia> !ops | #ubuntu ban list now full
[12:21] <Pici> this is ridiculous
[12:21] <Pici> I'm gonna grab some breakfast and think about what to do
[12:21] <ikonia> I'll do a big clear down now
[12:23] <ikonia> can someone watch Typhhooooh in -rp and +1 while I tidy ubuntu bans
[12:24] <ikonia> Typhhooooh is yure
[12:31] <jussi01> now then, which chans am I missing over here...
[12:34] <wgrant> Woah, ^mNotIntelligent was convinced?
[12:35] <ikonia> what's the format of finding floodbot bans ?
[12:36] <Mamarok> I am off for a few minutes, my kitchen needs me :)
[12:38] <ikonia> trying to get bullgard back in here to resolve this
[12:45] <furuno> uh oh sorry :(, I didn't want to support his argumeng (D3)
[12:46] <ikonia> sorry pici didn't mean to race you
[12:46] <Pici> ikonia: you got him anyway
[12:53] <bazhang> partypooper, indus?
[12:53] <partypooper> yeah
[12:53] <bazhang> how can we help you
[12:53] <ikonia> partypooper: what do you want ?
[12:53]  * Pici wonders why all these people are joining
[12:53] <partypooper> just wanted to see how you handle stuff here
[12:53] <om26er> ikonia, i was gone out for 10 min and it was in the clipboard
[12:53] <raevol> ok if i idle here?
[12:53] <ikonia> I need to change my kick message
[12:54] <ikonia> Pici: my fault sorry
[12:54] <Pici> ikonia: just link to the guidelines page
[12:54] <ikonia> partypooper: you know you are not meant to be here and you know you know how things work
[12:54] <partypooper> is it possible to make channel scroll slower?
[12:54] <ikonia> partypooper/indus - stop trying to bait people
[12:54] <partypooper> bait?
[12:54] <partypooper> what
[12:54] <om26er> ikonia, what about me
[12:55] <Pici> om26er: Why are you here?
[12:55] <jussi01> !idle | raevol
[12:55] <raevol> k thanks
[12:55] <ikonia> indus: if you don't need operator help please leave the channel
[12:55] <ikonia> om26er: you where kicked from release party for posting links when you where told not to
[12:55] <indus> i asked a question but i dont think you read it
[12:55] <om26er> ikonia, ok
[12:56] <indus> i need a link to thie irc logs of this channel
[12:56] <indus> if that s possible
[12:56] <ikonia> indus: that's not an operator issue
[12:56] <ikonia> !logs
[12:56] <indus> ok thanks
[12:56] <indus> i have a comment though
[12:56] <Pici> sure
[12:57] <indus> ikonia's tolerance is/or seems to be much lower than the other ops
[12:57] <indus> nothing personal
[12:57] <bazhang> indus, thats just not so.
[12:57] <bazhang> indus, please dont idle here
[12:57] <indus> ok then maybe iam wrong
[12:57] <ikonia> indus: you are just unable to follow the guidelines
[12:57] <indus> see ya
[12:57] <bazhang> indus, you are.
[12:57] <indus> iam?
[12:57] <indus> for sure?
[12:57] <bazhang> you are wrong.
[12:58] <Pici> Its opinion
[12:58] <ikonia> it's fine
[12:58] <bazhang> indus, please dont linger.
[12:58] <indus> bah
[12:58] <bazhang> bye
[12:58] <indus> closed room indeed
[12:58] <om26er> send me back
[12:58] <ikonia> om26er: please leave the channel
[12:58] <bazhang> om26er, to where
[12:59] <om26er> unban?
[12:59] <wgrant> ikonia: <3 <3 <3
[12:59] <bazhang> heh
[12:59] <Pici> guys/gals, I gotta do the work that I'm getting paid to do, so I can't be here all the time, sorry :(
[13:00] <bazhang> om26er, from which channel
[13:00] <tonyyarusso> And I'm back
[13:00] <ikonia> om26er: you're not banned
[13:00] <om26er> bazhang, ubuntu-release-party
[13:00] <wgrant> ikonia: Want to unmute?
[13:00] <bazhang> om26er, reason for ban?
[13:00] <wgrant> s/mute/moderate/
[13:00] <ikonia> done
[13:00] <om26er> bazhang, i posted this ncdn.releases.ubuntu.com/
[13:01] <bazhang> om26er, and the topic says dont post links.
[13:01] <om26er> bazhang, yes!
[13:01] <bazhang> om26er, yet you did so anyway.
[13:01] <czajkowski> ikonia: just a thought I know many of the females on IRc and even some males don't like the "Hey guys" approach, might be wiser to use a gender neutral greating.  as I beleive many Ubuntu ops even feel this way
[13:02] <ikonia> czajkowski: I know - it's a bad habbit that I'm trying to break
[13:02] <ikonia> it's a valid/fair comment
[13:02] <czajkowski> ok
[13:02] <tonyyarusso> Yeah - although perhaps a hard one to remember in the midst of insanity.  Would be easier to work on other times...
[13:02] <bazhang> heh
[13:03] <ikonia> czajkowski: I've caught myself a few times and stopped it, I apologized to elky earlier it's unintentional but I %100 understand how it can be seen
[13:04] <tonyyarusso> English is a stupid language.
[13:05] <om26er> now let me go to the party plz i won't paste again
[13:05] <ikonia> om26er: leave this channel and join the #ubuntu-release-party channel
[13:06] <bazhang> corden, how may we help you
[13:06] <ikonia> bazhang: a consiquence of my bad kick message I feel
[13:07] <corden> i just read a msg that my ISP was black listed from torrent
[13:07] <bazhang> corden, it was a joke
[13:08] <corden> hope so
[13:09] <wgrant> bazhang: Spads is a Canonical sysadmin; those are rickroll redirects.
[13:10] <bazhang> wgrant, whoops sorry
[13:10] <nhandler> lol
[13:10] <tonyyarusso> Even a joke link causes thousands of simultaneous hits to the server though
[13:10] <nhandler> And do you guys think it would be beneficial to mention ubuntu-announce@ in the topic?
[13:10] <ikonia> nhandler: go for it
[13:10] <nhandler> Ok
[13:11] <ikonia> I don't think canonical should be posting rickroll links
[13:13] <nhandler> The /topic has been updated
[13:13] <tonyyarusso> btw, by my count, #ubuntu has now surpassed Jaunty levels.
[13:13] <bazhang> wowzors
[13:13] <jpds> ikonia, bazhang: Dudes, you've clearly never met Spads.
[13:13] <ikonia> nope never
[13:14] <Pici> tonyyarusso: yep, it just did
[13:14] <bazhang> jpds, I just kicked and apologized
[13:14] <Pici> 09:13:20 >>>> Irssi: New peak in #ubuntu@freenode : 1831
[13:14]  * jpds shakes head.
[13:14] <Pici> u-r-p surpassed long ago
[13:16] <tonyyarusso> Jono was denting to get it over a thousand
[13:21] <wgrant> bazhang: rickspencer3 is the Desktop team manager.
[13:23] <bazhang> wgrant, is it out then? he asked if it was and I said its not. dont see the harm in that.
[13:23] <wgrant> bazhang: Indeed not.
[13:24] <ikonia> hello JediMaster
[13:24] <JediMaster> Hey guys, I just got kicked banned from #ubuntu, can anyone tell me why?
[13:24] <ikonia> JediMaster: looks to be because you posted links to a product not released yet
[13:25] <tonyyarusso> !links | JediMaster
[13:26] <JediMaster> hmm, well very sorry about that, don't want the network flooded, I just presumed that it was ok to copy/paste the link that someone else had pasted 30 sec before
[13:27] <JediMaster> any chance I could be unbanned and I'll happily not post it again =)
[13:27] <tonyyarusso> Yeah, as soon as I can collect my sanity enough to copy and paste :S
[13:28] <JediMaster> =) ta
[13:28] <tonyyarusso> Should be good to go JediMaster
[13:30] <seeker^> Is it out yet?
[13:31] <bazhang> oof
[13:31] <JediMaster> thanks tonyyarusso, I didn't figure it out until after I pasted the url in and noticed the nocdn
[13:31] <tonyyarusso> JediMaster: Happens.  You can help us by referring others to !links and #ubuntu-release-party too.
[13:32] <JediMaster> will do
[13:34] <JediMaster> btw, just a suggestion, it would make sense to use a .htacces/.htpasswd on the nocdn site to only allow the IP/ranges of the CDN to access the site and password protected for all others
[13:34] <tonyyarusso> I pondered that earlier too.  But hey, I'm not in charge :P
[13:35] <tonyyarusso> of that anyway
[13:35] <Pici> thank goodness
[13:35] <tonyyarusso> yarrrr!
[13:35] <seeker^> I have asked several times in the past about why they don't have a more secure distribution method to the servers
[13:36] <ikonia> Wikidude: you've been told many times to stop telling people it's out
[13:36] <ikonia> areay: can we help ?
[13:36] <Wikidude> ikonia , I typed in released , and in the the next line as you could see , I also wrote not yet
[13:36] <JediMaster> I believe it's called security by obscruity, and it's never a good plan
[13:37] <Wikidude> JediMaster : lol
[13:37] <areay> just wanted to watch people get mad about being kicked tbh ikonia ... i'll leave if u want
[13:37] <ikonia> areay: please yes
[13:37] <areay> peace
[13:37] <Wikidude> So am I still blocked
[13:37] <Wikidude> Probably yes I guess
[13:37] <ikonia> you're not banned - you've been removed
[13:38] <ikonia> but as wikidude or your other nick you've been a problem in the channel a few times today
[13:38] <ikonia> I suggest you think about what and how you're posting
[13:38] <Wikidude> Cheers , just a little out washed >>> and sorry about it
[13:38] <ikonia> no problem, thank you
[13:38] <jussi01> !idle | JediMaster
[13:41] <JediMaster> ok ok, I'll bog off, thanks tonyyarusso, and someone really should mention the .htaccess to the sysadmins to block for non cdn server IPs..
[13:41] <seeker^> I'm so glad I don't have access to a machine that will allow me to op up right now :P
[13:42] <bazhang> I think dolittle may have been hit by mistake (I got doslinux)
[13:42] <ikonia> he was, I apologiesd
[13:42] <ikonia> apologized
[13:42] <bazhang> ah sorry just saw that
[13:42] <ikonia> not a problem
[13:48]  * tonyyarusso hopes they release soon before his head asplodes
[13:48] <ikonia> I'm tempted to +m again for a short period
[13:48] <ikonia> it's getting stupid
[13:49] <seeker^> Yeah, go for a +m
[13:53] <czajkowski> well it's out in some places.. so you can understand the confusion.
[13:53] <seeker^> It isn't "out" anywhere yet
[13:53] <seeker^> Some servers have got copies of an iso
[13:53] <Pici> Its not out until the fat lady^W release manger says so
[13:54] <jussi01> hehe
[13:55] <jussi01> Slangasek has said he will pop a note in -r-p when it comes out, so we will all know...
[14:00] <jpds> seeker^: s/Some/Most/
[14:00] <jussi01> oh dear -r-p is crazy
[14:01] <Mamarok> totally
[14:01] <wgrant> It was worse earlier.
[14:03] <tonyyarusso> !ops the -r-p ban list appears to be full!
[14:03] <tonyyarusso> !ops | the -r-p ban list appears to be full!
[14:03] <jrib> heh...
[14:03] <bazhang> yikes
[14:04] <jrib> just clear it what's the point
[14:04] <tonyyarusso> That's probably safe, yes.  Most are very temporary
[14:04] <jpds>  /msg ChanServ CLEAR #ubuntu-release-party BANS
[14:04] <jrib> is -r-p +L?
[14:04] <jpds> No.
[14:06] <tonyyarusso> Cleared.
[14:06] <ikonia> that's a cool trick jpds
[14:06] <jpds> ikonia: I'm full of those.
[14:06] <ikonia> no doubt
[14:07] <tonyyarusso> You should see the one with the seal ikonia
[14:07] <sanketmedhi> tonyyarusso: here
[14:08] <Mamarok> oh man, what a bunch of silly kids over there
[14:08] <tonyyarusso> !links | sanketmedhi most likely it was this
[14:08] <topyli> a finnish news site says 9.10 is out and links to downloads :\
[14:08] <sanketmedhi> oh ok, sorry, I got the link on a local ubuntu channel, had no idea about this issue
[14:08] <czajkowski> tonyyarusso: can you see pm please
[14:09] <tonyyarusso> sanketmedhi: If you can help us by not repeating, you're all set to re-enter.
[14:10] <JediMaster> quick question, is it ok to link urls on mirrors?
[14:10] <jpds> No.
[14:10] <JediMaster> e.g. http://www.mirrorservice.org
[14:10] <JediMaster> who have 9.10 posted
[14:11] <ikonia> no
[14:11] <JediMaster> kk
[14:11] <sanketmedhi> tonyyarusso: sure, I promise
[14:11] <tonyyarusso> sanketmedhi: Okay, thanks!
[14:12] <sanketmedhi> tonyyarusso: same to you
[14:12] <tonyyarusso> c'mon Steve...put us out of our misery
[14:12] <ikonia> at jedimaster asked
[14:22] <bazhang> whoa ubuntu.com has changed
[14:22] <Pici> looks the same here
[14:23] <tonyyarusso> bazhang: Changed, reverted, and changed again already
[14:23] <Pici> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download is showing 9.10 for me now
[14:23] <bazhang> weird
[14:24] <tonyyarusso> Matt has testing to do too you know - it's not magic.
[14:24] <bazhang> hehe
[14:24] <bazhang> seems like there is an arthur c clarke quote applicable about this
[14:27] <jpds> 14:25:28 < slangasek> is something happening today?
[14:27] <Pici> hah
[14:27] <bazhang> hehe
[14:27] <jpds> Amnesia!
[14:27] <nalioth> not everyone plans their religious holidays around Ubuntu release day
[14:28] <Pici> I should have scheduled a day off for today
[14:28] <tritium> #ubuntu-release-party is rather dizzying
[14:29] <jpds> wgrant: /remove is the way to go.
[14:30] <ikonia> thank god
[14:30] <ikonia> it's released
[14:30] <ikonia> so much for the announcment
[14:30] <wgrant> Wait.
[14:30] <wgrant> What?
[14:30] <wgrant> Why did the topic declare it?
[14:31] <areay> unban me damnit it was out when i said "it's out"
[14:31] <ikonia> ubuntu.com just changed the banner to 9.10
[14:31] <ikonia> areay: calm down
[14:31] <wgrant> That's got little to do with anything.
[14:31] <areay> lol
[14:31] <areay> im kidding
[14:31] <areay> woohoo!
[14:31] <bazhang> the link in -r-p says out and not out :)
[14:31] <ikonia> I'll change the topic
[14:32] <wgrant> I wish leftyfb hadn't done that.
[14:32] <Pici> is it not out?
[14:32] <wgrant> No.
[14:32] <Pici> ugh
[14:32] <bazhang> yikes
[14:32] <Pici> I changed the ubuntu topic because I saw that in -r-p
[14:33] <ikonia> it is out
[14:33] <nalioth> there are dozens of news agencies saying otherwise
[14:33] <ubot3> In #ubuntu-release-party, d1b said: ubot3: isitout is yes it is
[14:33] <bazhang> good luck putting that genie back in
[14:33] <ikonia> ubuntu.com says it is ?
[14:33] <bazhang> does here
[14:33] <Pici> can someone update !torrents
[14:33] <Pici> I need to gte back to work
[14:33] <ikonia> wgrant: someones been sloppy
[14:33] <ikonia> Pici: sure
[14:33] <ikonia> !torrents
[14:33] <wgrant> #-r-p has always declared the release only once slangasek does.
[14:33] <wgrant> But too late now.
[14:33] <ikonia> agreed
[14:34] <wgrant> Do we want to kill ubot3?
[14:34] <ikonia> yes
[14:34] <ikonia> it's just noise in there
[14:34] <ikonia> in my opinion
[14:34] <seeker^> What happened?
[14:35] <wgrant> The release was inappropriately declared in #u-r-p, before the announcement.
[14:35] <wgrant> 'declared' meaning the topic was changed.
[14:35] <Pici> We should lock down who has ops there for the next release.
[14:35] <Mamarok> oh no :(
[14:36] <ikonia> Pici: that seems sensible
[14:36] <Mamarok> I took this for granted
[14:36] <seeker^> Who changed it?
[14:36] <Mamarok> lefty
[14:36] <wgrant> leftyfb.
[14:36] <Pici> Mamarok: not you, I mean people who aren't normally operators
[14:36] <wgrant> I mean, it is pretty much out.
[14:36] <ikonia> the member cloak is quite broad
[14:36] <wgrant> But we have always previously waited for the announcement.
[14:36] <wgrant> And the RM came in and announced it.
[14:36] <Pici> There are hundreds of ubuntu members now
[14:36] <Mamarok> well, I counted on that be true and change the topic in #k already
[14:36] <wgrant> Many hundreds.
[14:36] <wgrant> Mamarok: Same in #u
[14:37] <Pici> Mamarok: I did the same in #u because I saw the change in #u-r-p's topic
[14:37] <nalioth> i don't think pulling all the access because of one idjit is wise
[14:37] <ikonia> seems a sensible thing to do
[14:37] <seeker^> Why do members need access?
[14:37] <jpds> Can we get lefty in here?
[14:37] <ikonia> I think it was self moderating
[14:37] <Pici> nalioth: or at least sending out a list of guidelines for the release event
[14:37] <ikonia> that was the idea
[14:38] <wgrant> It has worked reasonably before.
[14:38] <nalioth> seeker^: because in a channel like #u-r-p, the more ops - the better
[14:39] <nalioth> and one would expect any member to uphold the Ubuntu way
[14:39] <wgrant> It hasn't caused problems before tonight.
[14:39] <seeker^> Apart from the case where there are too many people with ops
[14:39] <Pici> nalioth: The problem is that many of these people don't normally do any operator duties
[14:40] <seeker^> And the number of members icreases to the point where the probability that there is somone that will do something stupid has ops
[14:40] <seeker^> is too high
[14:41] <Mamarok> o noes, now they do numbers :(
[14:41] <wgrant> The danish stopped them.
[14:42] <Mamarok> and we should change the factoid, too
[14:42] <wgrant> Does somebody want to correct ubot3's !isitout?
[14:42] <wgrant> Right.
[14:42] <Pici> I muted it
[14:43] <Pici> it'll get synced to ubottu soon
[14:43] <Mamarok> ok, thx Pici :)
[14:44] <ikonia> ha ha, "want to correct it" - "I've muted it" best correction
[14:44] <Mamarok> and the count goes down
[14:44] <Mamarok> thx ikonia :)
[14:44] <Mamarok> I wonder how long this p'arty will last
[14:45] <Mamarok> -'
[14:45] <Mamarok> that was not a hickup, in case you wonder
[14:45] <Pici> #u+1 is forwarding to #u now
[14:48] <Mamarok> ok, slangasek updated the topic in #u-devel, too, time: 15:46 (UTC+1)
[14:48] <slangasek> why did my +m not work in #u-r-party? :)
[14:48] <Pici> slangasek: It did
[14:48] <wgrant> slangasek: You're a bit late, unfortunately.
[14:48] <Pici> slangasek: The channel is +z so ops still see people talking
[14:49] <slangasek> oh, that's confusing :P
[14:49] <slangasek> wgrant: buh?  somebody announced it already?
[14:49] <wgrant> slangasek: Um, yes. Somebody somewhat privileged saw that ubuntu.com had updated, and changed the topic.
[14:50] <wgrant> A bit of a 'WTF are you doing?' moment here...j
[14:50] <slangasek> hum, ok then
[14:50] <Pici> And then some other people saw that the topic had updated and changed the other main channels :/
[14:51] <wgrant> Anyway, 6 months to develop a scheme to avoid similar things happening again.
[14:51] <slangasek> +z - that's new, then; is that going to be standard practice, so I remember next time and don't sit there dumbly waiting for the channel to go quiet? :)
[14:51]  * anthony is sad
[14:51] <anthony> Linode had a quick outage and I missed it :(
[14:51] <anthony> Shoulda synced up this client to all the channels I guess.
[14:51] <anthony> slangasek: It's relatively common at least.
[14:52] <Pici> Can someone else please update !torrents, the bot decided to ignore me.
[14:52] <Pici> !torrents
[14:52] <Pici> oh, sure, ignore me here too why dont you. /me shakes fist at ubottu
[14:53] <ikonia> duk: please remove #ubuntu from your auto join channel list
[14:53] <ikonia> duk: you've already stated you don't want to join
[14:53] <ikonia> !torrents
[14:53] <Pici> I messed up the regex too as you can see
[14:53] <ikonia> oooh, so I see :)
[14:55] <nalioth> i give up.  i can't get the bot to update  :(
[14:55] <ikonia> !torrents is Karmic can be torrented from http://hr.releases.ubuntu.com/9.10/ubuntu-9.1010-desktop-i386.iso.torrent or http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/9.10/ubuntu-9.10-server-adm64.iso.torrent depending on your architecture. Torrents for other Ubuntu flavours can be found at: http://it.releases.ubuntu.com/ (CD) or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases (DVD).
[14:55] <ikonia> !forget torrents
[14:55] <ikonia> !torrents is Karmic can be torrented from http://hr.releases.ubuntu.com/9.10/ubuntu-9.1010-desktop-i386.iso.torrent or http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/9.10/ubuntu-9.10-server-adm64.iso.torrent depending on your architecture. Torrents for other Ubuntu flavours can be found at: http://it.releases.ubuntu.com/ (CD) or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases (DVD).
[14:55] <ikonia> ughhh
[14:55] <ikonia> I've made a typo now
[14:56] <jpds> ikonia: <reply>
[14:56] <ikonia> it's never needed reply before or I'm forgetting
[14:56] <ikonia> !torrents is <reply > Karmic can be torrented from http://hr.releases.ubuntu.com/9.10/ubuntu-9.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent or http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/9.10/ubuntu-9.10-server-adm64.iso.torrent depending on your architecture. Torrents for other Ubuntu flavours can be found at: http://it.releases.ubuntu.com/ (CD) or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases (DVD).
[14:56] <ikonia> I just told you to forget it
[14:57] <ikonia> !forget torrents
[14:57] <ikonia> !torrents is <reply > Karmic can be torrented from http://hr.releases.ubuntu.com/9.10/ubuntu-9.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent or http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/9.10/ubuntu-9.10-server-adm64.iso.torrent depending on your architecture. Torrents for other Ubuntu flavours can be found at: http://it.releases.ubuntu.com/ (CD) or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases (DVD).
[14:57] <ikonia> !torrents is <reply> Karmic can be torrented from http://hr.releases.ubuntu.com/9.10/ubuntu-9.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent or http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/9.10/ubuntu-9.10-server-adm64.iso.torrent depending on your architecture. Torrents for other Ubuntu flavours can be found at: http://it.releases.ubuntu.com/ (CD) or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases (DVD).
[14:57] <jpds> ikonia: Now you have to !unforget. :(
[14:57] <bazhang> perhaps !no
[14:58] <ikonia> jpds: why do you have to unfoget ?
[14:58] <ikonia> !unforget torrents
[14:59] <Pici> its silly
[14:59] <ikonia> it's not listening to certain things
[15:04] <Pici> silly
[15:17] <Amaranth> dang I was way off on my guess for #ubuntu
[15:17] <Amaranth> only 1700 people
[15:18] <Pici> 11:18:49 >>>> Irssi: Peak for #ubuntu@freenode: 1865 (Thu Oct 29 10:20:50 2009)
[15:19] <Jordan_U> This seems to be the most common problem people are having with grub, and error 15 isn't a particularly usefull error message ( googling does not return usefull information ) so this would be a nice factoid to have
[15:20] <ikonia> Jordan_U thanks for the info
[15:20] <Jordan_U_> ikonia: np
[15:22] <Pici> okay. *I* updated !torrents
[15:22] <ikonia> Pici: how ??
[15:22] <ikonia> did it just start working ?
[15:22] <Pici> !torrents
[15:23] <Pici> ikonia: I editied the factoid manually and re-did it.
[15:23] <ikonia> when you see manually do you mean in the database ?
[15:23] <Pici> I mean !no torrents is <reply> blah blah blah
[15:31] <Pici> 5.04...
[15:36] <jrib> so sad, first ubuntu release I don't have installed the day it's released :(
[15:37] <jrib> Pici: think it will break 2000?
[15:45] <ikonia> Jordan_U: can we help?
[16:09] <ikonia> Jordan_U: do you need anything else ?
[16:10] <ikonia> Jordan_U: can we help you ?
[16:33] <ikonia> Jordan_U: are you active or do you have here on auto join ?
[16:36] <jpds> ikonia: away and is idle : 0 days 0 hours 2 mins 52 secs
[16:36] <ikonia> guess it's an auto join as he keeps parting and joining
[17:24] <MenZa> Is -release-party running wild?
[17:24] <Pici> not really
[17:25] <MenZa> impressive
[17:28] <MenZa> 1767 nicks Jesus Christ.
[17:29] <Pici>  We peaked at 1177 users in #u-r-p and 1865 in
[17:29] <Pici> #ubuntu
[17:30] <MenZa> Yowch.
[17:30] <nalioth> yeah, we get more folks in #ubuntu with each release
[17:31] <MenZa> we always do, but I've not seen 1865 before I think
[17:32] <MenZa> Wait, I thought we discouraged  dist-upgrade now and were all-in on update-manager?
[17:38] <nalioth> MenZa: of course you haven't. we hit 1865 about 3 hours ago
[17:39] <MenZa> heh
[17:41] <Pici> MenZa: dist-upgrade is fine, just not for upgrading to a new release.
[17:41] <MenZa> Ah, ok.
[17:41] <MenZa> Don't we want apt-get upgrade, then?
[17:41] <MenZa> @p ic
[17:42] <MenZa> @ Pici*
[17:42] <Pici> !dist-upgrade
[17:42] <MenZa> I see.
[17:42] <MenZa> I thought dist-upgrade would upgrade to the newer distribution.
[17:42] <Pici> do-release-upgrade or update-manager should be used for upgrading to a new release.
[17:42] <Pici> MenZa: Most people do, hence why I made the factoid.
[17:42] <MenZa> aha
[17:43] <MenZa> And upgrade does what?
[17:43] <Pici> I mean it could be used in conjunction with changing the sources.list file with sed, but we don't want people doing that.
[17:43] <MenZa> heh
[17:43] <MenZa> I remember when that's how upgrades were done back with 5.10
[17:44] <Pici> upgrade will pull in package upgrades, but not if the packages depend on packages not yet installed.
[17:44] <MenZa> Ah
[17:44]  * MenZa nods
[17:44] <Pici> and it won't remove things no longer needed.
[18:44] <Flannel> Morning all
[18:51] <mneptok> !bot > seena
[19:01] <LjL> would someone kindly look at sudobash? he has a long history, and the stuff he now said in #ubuntu-offtopic and, previously, in #ubuntu, is i think NOT fine.
[19:01] <MenZa> LjL: examples?
[19:01] <MenZa> I'm just scanning the backlog
[19:02] <MenZa> (in -ot)
[19:02] <LjL> MenZa: [19:53:50] <sudobash> No SHIT UBERTACO THAT IS WHERE I AM ASSHOLE
[19:03] <MenZa> I'll keep an eye out, LjL :)
[19:03]  * mneptok is dealing
[19:03] <LjL> thanks
[19:03] <mneptok> i just asked him/her to join us here
[19:03] <LjL> i'll be going then.
[19:04] <MenZa> mneptok: you take over, then :)
[19:04] <mneptok> sudobash: care to explain your comments to me in /query?
[19:04] <mneptok> 13:03 [Freenode] [msg(sudobash)] please join #ubuntu-ops
[19:04] <mneptok> 13:03 [Freenode] [sudobash(n=andrea@unaffiliated/sudobash)] how come so you can bitch at me
[19:05] <mneptok> 13:03 [Freenode] [sudobash(n=andrea@unaffiliated/sudobash)] how about I just go to a different server?
[19:05] <sudobash> every time you want some one to come in here it is usually to bitch at them... What are you a cop or my mom?
[19:05] <mneptok> i'd also like to point out that #ubuntu is a support channel, and is not the proper place to discuss your dealings with recruiters.
[19:05] <sudobash> dude this server is so fucking lame
[19:05] <Flannel> sudobash: If you want to go to a different server, by all means, please do.
[19:06] <MenZa> Lovely attitude.
[19:07] <mneptok> banned in #u and -ot
[19:08] <Pici> Won't be the first time we've had to do so.
[19:09] <MenZa> andrea_: Have you re-adjusted your attitude now?
[19:10] <sudobash> was there something you all wanted to say before I never come back?
[19:10] <MenZa> !coc | sudobash
[19:10] <sudobash> Didnt want to leave anyone with words they want to express...
[19:10] <MenZa> !guidelines | sudobash
[19:10] <MenZa> Have a look at those. That's about it.
[19:10] <sudobash> have seen them years ago
[19:11] <MenZa> So why are you ignoring them full-stop?
[19:11] <sudobash> anything else before I leave for good?
[19:11] <ikonia> please leave for good
[19:11] <sudobash> awesome
[19:11] <MenZa> Bye.
[19:11] <sudobash> have fun with being a bunch of fucking pricks
[19:11] <sudobash> on a lame ass server
[19:11] <ikonia> ok - bye
[19:11] <sudobash> where everyone is assholes
[19:11] <mneptok> "are"
[19:12] <MenZa> sudobash: Are you done venting so we can resume normal order?
[19:12] <sudobash> Opps I guess I just dont give a fuck
[19:12] <ikonia> ok - bye then
[19:12] <sudobash> bye pricks
[19:12] <ikonia> moving on.
[19:13] <sudobash> LJL dont you get tired of being a fucking snitch>
[19:13] <sudobash> ?
[19:13] <MenZa> Clean-up in aisle two!
[19:13] <MenZa> mneptok: Is that a static IP+
[19:13] <MenZa> ?*
[19:13] <mneptok> MenZa: dunno. why?
[19:14] <MenZa> I was thinking *!*@c-76-127-21-206.hsd1.tn.comcast.net instead in -ot.
[19:14] <mneptok> MenZa: if the IP is not static, that ban is worthless
[19:14] <MenZa> very truel
[19:14] <MenZa> -l
[19:14] <Pici> Hopefully he doesn't try to come back.
[19:14] <ikonia> he has history as long as my arm
[19:15] <mneptok> ikonia: that's not saying much if you're a t-rex
[19:15] <ikonia> you can sleep easy that I'm not a t-rex
[19:20] <niko> in how many #*ubuntu* he did bad things ?
[19:22] <mneptok> niko: 3 i'm aware of
[19:22] <nalioth> niko: he's being observed
[19:22] <mneptok> niko: not like you can do anything about it, since this is a LAME network with ASSHOLE opers.
[19:22] <mneptok> *sigh*
[19:22] <mneptok> WTF is wrong with people?
[19:22] <niko> mneptok: :)
[19:24] <mneptok> now in #edubuntu, too
[19:24] <mneptok> 13:24 [Freenode] -!- sudobash [n=andrea@c-76-127-21-206.hsd1.tn.comcast.net]
[19:24] <mneptok> 13:24 [Freenode] -!-  ircname  : Andrea
[19:24] <mneptok> 13:24 [Freenode] -!-  channels : #xubuntu #edubuntu #sudobash
[19:25] <ikonia> ughhh
[19:25] <LjL> sudobash is threatening to "start up his redirecting script again". by that, he means a script that automatically mass-registers freenode channels with names that are a mispelling of legitimate channels (#ubutnu, #getnoo, etc), and redirects them to #sudobash
[19:25] <LjL> i think nalioth or some other staffer might be familiar with that from some time ago
[19:25] <ikonia> all done
[19:25] <ikonia> looks like staff are looking at it as chanserv delt with it
[19:26] <mneptok> LjL: nalioth is busy weeping gently. it's release day for Ubuntu on Freenode. and he still has that pesky o:  ;)
[19:28] <LjL> i see
[19:28] <LjL> anyway this is my unsolicited query with the individual for reference, http://pastebin.ca/1648231
[19:28] <LjL> going for dinner now
[19:29] <Mamarok> sudobash is back in #k
[19:30] <ikonia> Pici: is that ok to do ?
[19:30] <ikonia> I thought he had to be a problem in that channel ?
[19:30] <ikonia> (not that I disagree "thank you")
[19:30] <Pici> ikonia: I don't care what advice hes giving, hes ban evading now.
[19:31] <ikonia> I didn't know he was banned in #kubuntu - that explains it, thanks
[19:38] <czajkowski> .
[19:40] <Pici> indeed
[19:42] <Pricey> How's sudobash doing?
[19:42] <ikonia> wild
[19:42] <ikonia> http://pastebin.ca/1648231
[19:42] <ikonia> from ljl
[19:44] <MenZa> in #edubuntu as well.
[19:44] <Pricey> no need to follow
[19:44] <ikonia> he's quiet now
[19:44] <MenZa> oh, I meant to be in that anyway
[19:45] <MenZa> I will, however, remain quiet as in 90% of my other #u* channels.
[19:52] <Mamarok> I will have to leave soon, can somebody give a hand in #kubuntu, please? Seems I am alone there
[19:53] <ikonia> sure
[19:54] <Mamarok> thanks a lot :)
[20:13] <MenZa> [2009-10-29 19:48:24 UTC] < sudobash> ubuntu ops suck dick
[20:13] <MenZa> From #edu
[21:46] <MenZa> !nick is <reply> Your nick is how people know you on IRC. Please don't change your nicknames too often, or it creates a lot of confusion. You should also !register your nick with Freenode.
[21:46] <MenZa> Someone ^
[21:49] <Flannel> !nick
[21:49] <Flannel> !-nick
[21:50] <Flannel> oops
[21:50] <Flannel> !nick
[21:50] <MenZa> Doesn't mention that people shouldn't change their nick
[21:50]  * Flannel hdies
[21:50] <MenZa> There's
[21:50] <MenZa> !away
[21:50] <MenZa> Ah :)
[21:50] <MenZa> Excellent, Flannel.
[21:51] <Flannel> !nick
[21:51] <Flannel> MenZa: No, wasn't excellent, unless you enjoy recursion :)
[21:51] <MenZa> :P
[21:51] <Flannel> ooh, even better (read: shorter)
[21:51]  * MenZa recurses Flannel 
[21:52] <Flannel> You didn't even curse me the first time!
[21:53] <Flannel> but wait
[21:53] <Flannel> !nickspam
[21:53] <Flannel> Do we have three factoids that cover two topics collectively? or are they separate enough?
[22:14] <Flannel> We're missing a !ua factoid (Ukranian)
[22:16] <Flannel> Hmm, seems to be one person there, perhaps not.
[22:24] <Flannel> !away > carresmd
 ubuntu automatically logs me into #ubuntu in xchat and there is no way to change this default behavior afaik... then i get this
 henux: this list is at http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml
  ikonia sets ban on *!*@74-47-66-178.br1.moab.ut.frontiernet.net
[22:48] <bucky>   You have been kicked from #ubuntu by ikonia (ban dodging is not acceptable)
 thanks
[22:48] <bucky>  laters
 bucky: #ubuntu-ops
[22:48] <bucky> <-- Master_9 has quit (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Would you like to know more?")
[22:48] <bucky>  henux (i=henrih@unaffiliated/henux) has left #freenode
 ikonia has been busting my chops and I've already taken this to #ubuntu-ops and they haven't done anything about it
[22:48] <bucky> <-- dot-dot-dot has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
 Does Canonical own freenode now?
 bucky, visit #xchat also if you want to remove that default joining, iirc it's either caused by joining the "ubuntu" network in the network screens, or check your settings for the freenode network, it might be in the auto-join area
[22:48] <ikonia> please stop
 bucky: please #ubuntu-ops
[22:48] <bucky> how long am i going to have to put up with this harrasment?
[22:48] <bucky> shut up
[22:49] <ikonia> it's not harrasment - if you clam down I'll explain
[22:49] <bucky> Matt Darcy... shut up
[22:49] <ikonia> you had a ban placed on you yesterday in #ubuntu, you had chanced your IP (it was an IP ban) so you where removed for ban dodging
[22:49] <Flannel> bucky: Please be respectful
[22:49] <ikonia> you where banned for making the kind of comments you are showing in here - if you clam down we can resolve it,
[22:51] <ikonia> bucky, you where asked to stop making comments about genocide in #ubuntu-offtopic eg; how proud you where of it, when you where asked to stop - you called me a natzi
[22:51] <ikonia> you where banned
[22:51] <ikonia> you then joined 5 other channels to call me homosexual, natzi, cock sucker and various other names
[22:51] <ikonia> that is why the ban in multiple channels stands
[22:52] <ikonia> that's why you where removed from #ubuntu just now
[22:52] <bucky> i didn't call you a cock sucker.. but if you insist
[22:52] <ikonia> I don't have the exact comments to hand but I can get them, they where along those lines
[22:52] <bucky> If i ever see you.. be looking for a bloody nose
[22:53] <ikonia> ok - I won't be threatened, this conversation ends
[22:53] <bucky> good then shut up
[22:53] <MenZa> bucky: Control yourself. Immediately.
[22:54] <MenZa> bucky: Please part this channel if you have nothing further. We will not tolerate any of our ops being threatened.
[22:54] <nalioth> bucky: did you have anything further?
[22:54] <bucky> i want the default behavior of xchat changed so i don't have to put up with this
[22:54] <nalioth> you were given advice in #freenode as to getting it fixed
[22:54] <mneptok> bucky: you can change that behavior in XChat's preferences
[22:55] <bucky> no you can't
[22:55] <nalioth> was there anything else, bucky ?
[22:55] <bucky> where in preferences
[22:55] <nalioth> this is not a support channel
[22:56] <nalioth> did you have any further business with Ubuntu ops?
[22:56] <bucky> you log me in just to ban me..? screw you
[22:56] <nalioth> please respect our /topic, bucky
[22:57] <bucky> you've got to show respect to get it and now  it's war
[22:57] <bucky> debian traitor
[22:57] <Flannel> bucky: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XChatHowto#Configuration
[22:57] <Flannel> oh, well, hmm
[22:57] <Mez> can we get a saner !ot for #ubuntu-uk ?
[22:57] <Flannel> What a jolly fellow.
[22:57] <Flannel> !ot-#ubuntu-uk
[22:58] <nalioth> Flannel: you wish to encourage his behaviour?
[22:58] <Mez> Flannel: it uses the !ot atm.
[22:58] <Mez> which isnt relevant
[22:58] <Mez> we talking about bucky?
[22:58] <Flannel> nalioth: Encourage?  I was providing him with information on how to exact his configuration changes
[22:58] <Mez> he's complaining in #freenode
[22:58] <nalioth> Flannel: he threatened to beat ikonia up
[22:58] <Flannel> nalioth: Indeed he did.
[22:59] <Flannel> Yesterday too, if I remember correctly.
[22:59] <Flannel> I'd rather see him never come back if the problem is in fact his lack of knowledge on how to set default channels.
[23:00] <nalioth> Flannel: he was given advice in #freenode that would allow him to fix it
[23:00] <MenZa> nalioth: What is the freenode policy on threatening comments?
[23:00] <nalioth> this isn't about xchat
[23:00] <Mez> Flannel: if you can look into the ot-#ubuntu-uk - I'd appreciate it :D
[23:00] <ikonia> I'm not to fussed in honesty
[23:00] <mneptok> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanlon%27s_razor
[23:00] <nalioth> MenZa: it puts one in the train station
[23:00]  * MenZa thinks a swift K-line should do the trick.
[23:00] <Flannel> Mez: Got any suggestions?
[23:00] <MenZa> ikonia: It's still not acceptable in any way.
[23:00] <MenZa> ikonia: It wouldn't bother me personally, but any sort of comment like that should get you k-lined, no questions asked.
[23:01] <ikonia> I understand but as long as he's not a problem in the channels he can go about his business elsewhere
[23:01] <MenZa> But that's freenode policy we're talking.
[23:01] <mneptok> MenZa: come HERE and say stuff like that. i'll ....
[23:01] <mneptok> i'll ...
[23:01] <MenZa> :D
[23:01] <mneptok> well, you can have some of the pizza i bought
[23:01]  * MenZa cuddles mneptok better.
[23:01] <Flannel> Mez: I mean, I could sprinkle in some extra 'u's and 'e's but...
[23:01] <Mez> !ot-#ubuntu-offtopic is <alias> ot4ot
[23:01] <Mez> would probably work
[23:02] <MenZa> speaking of pizza, I could do with some.
[23:02] <MenZa> I think I have some leftover carbonara I shall go and scavenge on.
[23:02]  * Mez hands MenZa a leftover slice from yesterday
[23:02]  * MenZa hobbles downstairs.
[23:02] <MenZa> Oooh.
[23:02] <ikonia> he's asking in #ubuntu-devel for xchat support now
[23:02]  * ikonia summons nalioth 
[23:03]  * ikonia vanquishes nalioth 
[23:06] <ikonia> nalioth: now #ubuntu-meeting
[23:06] <ikonia> same behaviour as last night
[23:07] <ikonia> nalioth: sorry to play treasure hunt with you
[23:08] <mneptok> that sounds like a euphemism for something i don;t want to think about.
[23:09]  * nalioth plastic wraps mneptok to his office chair
[23:09] <ikonia> now that's an image
[23:10] <mneptok> i hope "bucky has been g-lined" is the only "happy ending" today ...
[23:11] <nalioth> you'll have to coax him to another network for one of those  :P
[23:11] <ikonia> I'm getting pm'd now with abuse
[23:11]  * nalioth notes that freenode is fresh out of "G"s
[23:12] <ikonia> can I have a K please bob ?
[23:12] <Flannel> I'd like to buy a vowel.
[23:12]  * nalioth offers ikonia /quote silence *!?=yeehaw@*
[23:13] <ikonia> I've just closed the window and focused on channels
[23:14]  * mneptok vies for Flannel's bowels
[23:28] <niko> i like erUSUL contribs
[23:37]  * MenZa nods.
[23:51] <topyli> if we think pidgin fans are outraged, the factoid could add something like "pidgin is still available, don't panic"
[23:51] <MenZa> hehehe
[23:52] <topyli> that's hardly necessary, everyone knows that. half joking :)
[23:52]  * MenZa replaces libpurple with telepathy in the repos.
[23:55] <topyli> oh defaults are everyone's favorite rant. i could talk all day about how ubuntu breaks nautilus, but i'm too old for that. no energy for that, so i just change it for my own desktop :)