[00:00] <skiwithpete> hi
[00:00] <skiwithpete> I installed from the RC and I'm having loads of browsing issures
[00:00] <skiwithpete> sorry, issues
[00:00] <Sirisian> gm|lap, do you know anything about that. How would I know I'm compiling for an older kernel version. When I run uname -r I get: "2.6.28-11-generic" and I have /usr/src/linux-2.6.28/ which seems the same?
[00:01] <skiwithpete> is this a known issue?
[00:01] <pukeko> howdy.. can a bridge ( virtual interface ) have more than two 'real' interfaces i.e two radios and one ethernet /
[00:01] <pukeko> *?
[00:01] <jrib> !karmic | skiwithpete
[00:01] <graingert> it's not out!
[00:01] <skiwithpete> cheers.
[00:01] <gm|lap> Sirisian: see if there's somewhere you can see the ABI version
[00:02] <gm|lap> wait a minute...
[00:02] <gm|lap> i have 2.6.28-16-generic
[00:02] <noel> how much time for the new release?
[00:02] <Pici> noel, Karmic will be released some time during the 29th, i.e: there is no exact time. You can await the announcement in #ubuntu-release-party
[00:02] <gm|lap> chances are it may have updated on you
[00:02] <gm|lap> also, a make clean might help
[00:02] <Sirisian> gm|lap, I have that kernel too. If I run using that kernel I get no dfference.
[00:02] <nquintero_col> ubottu. Thanks for your links. I will follow their instructions and check sound again.
[00:02] <noel> thanks
[00:03] <fairhonanth_br> what's up
[00:03] <fairhonanth_br> guys
[00:03] <Sirisian> gm|lap, One moment. Let me try something. I'll be back
[00:04] <Cam42> Anyone know why empathy's spell check is so terrible?
[00:04] <nquintero_col> jmadgin: I think this machine has a Realtek sound card. This is a HP tx2-1020 laptop.
[00:04] <ak> does dhcp handle getting of nameservers? Does that work whether ip is static or dynamic?
[00:04] <fairhonanth_br> empathy is sucks man
[00:05] <lstarnes> ak: dhcp can handle that
[00:05] <lstarnes> ak: when using manually assigned static IPs without dhcp, use /etc/resolv.conf
[00:05] <ak> lstarnes: do I have to tell dhcp to do that?
[00:05] <lstarnes> ak: dhcp isn't usually used for static configuration
[00:05] <fairhonanth_br> that software is so immature
[00:05] <ShapeShifter499> how do I un-install a file manager without messing with another desktop evironment?
[00:05] <ShapeShifter499> *environment
[00:06] <ak> lstarnes: is there any way to use static IP but at the same time get nameserver automatically through dhcp?
[00:06] <lstarnes> ak: I'm not sure
[00:06] <ak> ok thanks
[00:06] <ak> anyone else know?
[00:06] <Mike_lifeguard> I'm using echo "$line" | netcat -u 127.0.0.1 1234 to send data to a process which then listens on that port. But then I'm left with netcat processes sitting around for no reason - how can I have the netcat process die once there is no more input from the echo (or something with similar effect)?
[00:06] <emerica> I'm running a multihomed cli machine eth0 and eth1, the app i'm using doesn't allow specification of what interface to Multicast out of and defaults to eth1, what would be the right way to get it to default to eth0, short of adding setsocketopts to the application
[00:06] <crypto_> I am using Ubuntu 9.04 and my headphone doesnt seem to work, even if i put in the headphone jack the sound comes from the laptops default speakers, i have been searching in the forums for a long time but no use, any kind of help will be appreciated
[00:06] <fairhonanth_br> unfortunately pidgin is so much better
[00:06] <gm|lap> ak: what i'm about to suggest is a hackjob...
[00:07] <ak> gm|lap: that's fine
[00:07] <gm|lap> after dhclient runs, make it do ifconfig on your device or something
[00:07] <ShapeShifter499> g2g
[00:07] <ShapeShifter499> bye
[00:07] <pukeko> ak: can you reserve the static on the dhcpd ?
[00:07] <ak> pukeko: nope
[00:07] <pukeko> ap: for the box in question ?
[00:08] <gm|lap> e.g. if you're going this on eth0 and your IP should be 192.168.0.14, you find out when dhclient runs, and then after that, you do: ifconfig 192.168.0.14 up
[00:08] <ak> gm|lap: which script runs dhclient?
[00:08] <Billiard> crypto_: maybe use the timeout option
[00:08] <gm|lap> ak: lemme find it
[00:08] <crypto_>  I am using Ubuntu 9.04 and my headphone doesnt seem to work, even if i put in the headphone jack the sound comes from the laptops default speakers, i have been searching in the forums for a long time but no use, any kind of help will be appreciated
[00:08] <Billiard> sorry not at crypto_
[00:09] <Billiard> Mike_lifeguard: maybe use the timeout option
[00:09] <SpacePigeon> what are the cons of not using pulse audio?
[00:10] <SpacePigeon> There is something else I can use, right?
[00:10] <gm|lap> ak: i think NetworkManager is what brings it up, and is invoked from /etc/init.d/NetworkManager... a hackjob would be tricky in this regard
[00:10] <gm|lap> look in /etc/network/if-up.d/
[00:10] <pukeko> ak: what are you trying to do.. don't you have admin on the dhcpd box ?
[00:10] <nquintero_col> Crypto: I have same problem. User ubottu write this for my issue, possibly it could works for you:
[00:10] <nquintero_col> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[00:10] <ak> gm|lap: ok thanks!
[00:10] <mattgyver> Hey all, whats a good alternative to Visio for Ubuntu?
[00:11] <gm|lap> mattgyver: there's openoffice.org drawing
[00:11] <gm|lap> although i'm not sure if that's "good"
[00:11] <gm|lap> maybe dia floats your boat more
[00:11] <ak> pukeko: I don't have admin on dhcpd, only on client.. I have embedded system that needs to make itself available over ssh.. this means static ip so that router can be configured to let ssh through
[00:11] <mattgyver> gm|lap, yeah im looking for something thats pretty close to visio, i have one on the tip of my tonge but cant remember the name of it
[00:11] <bostrt> hi i have asked this question few times over the past few days but nothing: i cannot ssh into my ubuntu machine anymore and the only change i can think of has been i lock my screen now.  No updates or anything. The same thing happened to me in Arch Linux, no ssh after locking screen.  Both use gnome.
[00:12] <Billiard> bostrt: what happens when you try to connect?
[00:13] <pukeko> ak: ..so therefore you may be facing address conflicts if you nominate yr own ip ..?
[00:13] <gm|lap> actually... i believe that NetworkManager messes with those scripts...
[00:14] <Kalculus> What are the requirements for a username in linux?  (what characters are valid, etc) ?
[00:14] <ak> pukeko: I'm not sure, but I dont' think so.. router is configured usually to start ips from 100; I have two systems that have static ...10 and ...15
[00:14] <gm|lap> so all i can really think of is turning off NetworkManager altogether, and invoking dhclient and ifconfig yourself
[00:14] <gm|lap> e.g. dhclient eth0; ifconfig eth0 10.1.1.15
[00:14] <gm|lap> erm
[00:14] <gm|lap> something like that
[00:15] <ak> gm|lap: yep, I will look into that.. isn't it just dhclient without args?
[00:15] <nquintero_col> Another question... What must I configure to connect as VPN Client using IPSEC/L2TP?
[00:15] <Mike_lifeguard> Billiard: Thanks a bunch, I did see the q option, but I didn't understand what it was for :D
[00:15] <lstarnes> Kalculus: likely anything from a-z, A-Z, and 0-9 without spaces
[00:15] <gm|lap> ak: you generally give it an interface
[00:15] <ak> oh ok
[00:15] <bostrt> Billiard: From putty the connection times out, from another unix machine nothing happens, just sits
[00:15] <lstarnes> Kalculus: there may be additional characters allowed
[00:15] <ak> I've always run it incorrectly then :)
[00:15] <pukeko> ak: coz you may have more than one
[00:15] <emerica> Is there a default network interface in ubuntu? how is it set? this multicast stuff if not setup for multihomed just goes to the default int
[00:15] <gm|lap> there's /etc/rc2.d and /etc/init.d if you're wondering... stuff beginning with an S in rc*.d starts up, and beginning with K does not
[00:15] <ak> pukeko: I see, I always had one, that's why..
[00:16] <gm|lap> also, there's /etc/rc.local
[00:16] <Kalculus> lstarnes: hmm..  would you know what site i can find out the exact limitations?  i can't seem to find it on google
[00:16] <ak> gm|lap: yeah, I know about that startup stuff.. I've done a few custom scripts before
[00:16] <lstarnes> Kalculus: sorry, I don't
[00:17] <bostrt> Billiard: in verbose it sits here debug1: Connecting to xxxxxxxxx [xxxxxxxxxxx] port 22.
[00:17] <gm|lap> ok, you should be pretty much sorted then... the only real issue is that your networking is going to be a hackjob
[00:17] <lstarnes> Kalculus: you could probably check the man pages and source code for the various account-related utilities or the linux kernel
[00:17] <gm|lap> but the point is that it works
[00:18] <ak> gm|lap: but isn't dhcp setup going to be messed up by running ifconfig after it? Isn't dhcpd going to think I'm still at the automatic ip?
[00:18] <jedc> Does anyone have advice for getting a cannon ip90 printer to work with 9.04?
[00:18] <gm|lap> ak: it all depends on your router...
[00:18] <gm|lap> i think it'd be MUCH more concerned if you changed your MAC address in some what
[00:18] <gm|lap> s/what/way/
[00:19] <Billiard> bostrt: and if you unlock your screen it works?
[00:19] <ak> gm|lap: what types of router will accept this hack and what types won't? I actually potentially will have to deploy this on any/all router networks..
[00:19] <gm|lap> ak: that's what you'll have to find out yourself... lemme see what other params dhclient takes
[00:19] <gm|lap> also, make damn well sure that NetworkManager is disabled
[00:19] <bostrt> Billiard: no, I disabled the autoscreen lock and still does not work. But ssh did stop working on the same day i enabled it for the first time
[00:20] <diofeher> when ubuntu 10.4 will release?
[00:20] <Pici> diofeher, Karmic will be released some time during the 29th, i.e: there is no exact time. You can await the announcement in #ubuntu-release-party
[00:20] <gm|lap> actually... have a look in /etc/dhcp3
[00:20] <lstarnes> diofeher: 10.04 = 4th month of 2001
[00:20] <pukeko> ak: you may also have to watch out for any lowend switches in between
[00:20] <lstarnes> diofeher: *2010
[00:20] <diofeher> Pici: huhu, thanks man =)
[00:21] <diofeher> oh, 2010?
[00:21] <gm|lap> and: man dhclient.conf
[00:21] <Pici> diofeher: er, sorry, I'm on autopilot. I thought you were asking about 9.10
[00:21] <lstarnes> diofeher: april 2010
[00:21] <jamieleshaw> Hello, what time will karmic be released?
[00:21] <jamieleshaw> in utc that is
[00:21] <user2> I'm trying to port a BASH script to CSH, why does the following not work?
[00:21] <user2> BASH: if [[ uname -a | grep -q <name> ]]; then ...
[00:21] <user2> CSH: if ( { uname -a | grep -q <name> } ) then ...
[00:21] <Pici> jamieleshaw, Karmic will be released some time during the 29th, i.e: there is no exact time. You can await the announcement in #ubuntu-release-party
[00:21] <diofeher> Pici: hehe, no problem
[00:22] <lstarnes> user2: try using tcsh instead of csh
[00:22] <user2> lstarnes: I don't think that's a valid answer :)
[00:22] <ak> gm|lap: I see, great, I think that's exactly what I need
[00:22] <lstarnes> user2: it is valid to me
[00:22] <lstarnes> user2: what errors do you get?
[00:23] <user2> lstarnes: I don't get any errors, but the expression always evaluates as false
[00:23] <lstarnes> user2: what do you get in bash?
[00:23] <user2> The BASH I listed works
[00:24] <user2> I.e. when the machine name is <name> the conditional code is executed
[00:24] <Doonz> hey guys, kinda a weird question. is there a way to set a directory so it automatically list directories by date of edit so that when i type ls it does the same as ls -tl
[00:24] <user2> In CSH it is never executed
[00:24] <bae9> hey
[00:24] <tonyyarusso> Doonz: not that I know of, but you could alias ls to do that globally
[00:24] <user2> Doonz: alias ls='ls -tl'
[00:25] <nick1> Whats the best kind of booze to put into egg nog?
[00:25] <nick1> i have some really good Promised Land dairy egg nog
[00:25] <Helsinkiii> hi-i messed around with Alsa Mixer settings and now my mic doesn't work and my sound sounds weird. i tried resetting it via terminal but it doesnt change anything. i have a conference call and need this running in 5 minutes AHHH
[00:25] <pukeko> nick1: cheap red wine ?
[00:25] <bae9> Are the leaked Ubuntu 9.10 on pirate bay http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/5139359 and http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/5139362/Ubuntu_9.10_FINAL_LEAKED______AMD64_version genuine ??
[00:25] <BenZ__> Hi, I need someone to point me in the right direction.  I installed the RC of 9.10 using the update manager of 9.04.  When I rebooted, it does get past the boot loader, but it seems the ramdisk(bootimage?) cannot find the UUID of the disk and it stops there.  Any thoughts on what went wrong (or how I might go about fixing it)?  I was going to try booting off a LiveCD so I could work it from there.
[00:25] <Jack_d_Lantern> Helsinkiii, there is always running a livecd for your session
[00:25] <Doonz> ok now for part two of my question. If I have something that connects through nfs can i make it default list like that?
[00:26] <nick1> cheap red wine are you kidding me
[00:26] <GodfatherofEire> nick1 brandy or rum
[00:26] <Helsinkiii> i don't have it-lent it
[00:26] <lstarnes> bae9: only trust things officially published by ubuntu
[00:26] <bastid_raZor> user2: ls -al is a bit more human readable.
[00:26] <gm|lap> bae9: what kind of idiot torrents a free open-source OS over the pirate bay
[00:26] <nick1> whats the best kind of rum to use? myers dark rum or maybe captain morgans spiced rum?
[00:26] <th1> lstarnes, how can I checlk?
[00:26] <gm|lap> of course it isn't.
[00:26] <Flannel> nick1: Please stay ontopic, thanks.
[00:26] <Helsinkiii> i'm screwed somebody please help.how do i reset alsa mixer settings?????
[00:26] <nick1> ok im sorry
[00:26] <user2> bastid_raZor: That's not what the question asked for.
[00:26] <nick1> i just thought you guys are so helpful !
[00:26] <nick1> you woul dknow !
[00:26] <bae9> ?
[00:26] <gm|lap> Helsinkiii: not sure... do you know what you did?
[00:26] <hardbop200> hi, I'm trying to find some doc on how to enable the grub menu in 9.10 (there's no menu.lst)...can someone point me to the right place?
[00:27] <bastid_raZor> user2: my mistake.
[00:27] <Flannel> hardbop200: #ubuntu+1 for Karmic support, thanks
[00:27] <Jack_d_Lantern> Helsinkiii, try /join #Alsa  while   waiting
[00:27] <Helsinkiii> gm|lap no
[00:27] <hardbop200> Flannel: will do, thanks
[00:27] <tianna> what is this?
[00:27] <gm|lap> that's your biggest problem.
[00:27] <lstarnes> user2: oddly enough it fails for me in bash
[00:27] <BenZ__> hardbop200, the new grub2 doesn't use menu.lst, it uses grub.cfg (or something like that)
[00:27] <gm|lap> because if you don't, neither do we.
[00:27] <user2> lstarnes: That is odd - it works for me
[00:27] <tianna> ?
[00:28] <pukeko> nick1: i'd go for a light Rum .. and then install karmic beta
[00:28] <tianna> kentucky deluxe?
[00:28] <user2> lstarnes: I use it in my .bashrc to set up the environment based on the machine I'm on
[00:28] <nick1> how do you upgrade to karmic from jaunty
[00:28] <Jack_d_Lantern> tianna, a support channel for u
[00:28] <nick1> i dont have a cd burner
[00:28] <tianna> what is a support channel?
[00:28] <lstarnes> nick1: when it is released, you can do it with the update manager
[00:28] <Jack_d_Lantern> !irc
[00:28] <nick1> oh okay cool
[00:28] <lstarnes> tianna: a help channel
[00:28] <nick1> ill surely do that
[00:28] <lstarnes> nick1: you may need to go into software sources and allow upgrades to non-lts releases
[00:29] <tianna> i may need this obviously
[00:29] <Jack_d_Lantern> !ask
[00:29] <tianna> ok...why cant i download anything regular on this thing
[00:29] <BenZ__> I need someone to point me in the right direction.  I installed the RC of 9.10 using the update manager of 9.04.  When I rebooted, it does get past the boot loader, but it seems the ramdisk(bootimage?) cannot find the UUID of the disk and it stops there.  Any thoughts on what went wrong (or how I might go about fixing it)?  I was going to try booting off a LiveCD so I could work it from there.
[00:29] <tianna> i cANT DO ANYTHING NORMAL
[00:30] <tking> but
[00:30] <tking> can you do things... abnormally?
[00:30] <Billiard> tianna: such as?
[00:30] <Jack_d_Lantern> google the u pocket guide
[00:30] <lstarnes> tianna: ubuntu is not windows
[00:30] <ZykoticK9> BenZ__, ask the same question in #ubuntu+1
[00:30] <tianna> maybe as dumb as it sounds my messengers..i can get on windows...
[00:30] <tianna> my windows crashed i cant get it right i cant even get in
[00:30] <digifor> Is there an alternative to plugging my usb into a Windows machine to get it working again?
[00:31] <tianna> i get this
[00:31] <velko> BenZ__, maybe you can substitute the uuid by the device name (/dev/sda1) and/or position (hd0,0)
[00:31] <tianna> i am quite confused
[00:31] <crypto_> how to use windows boot loader instead of GRUB?
[00:31] <Jack_d_Lantern> dig you can force mount it
[00:31] <user2> crypto: I don't think you can
[00:32] <geomi> hey guys im looking for /var/run/dmesg.boot but can't find it. where should i be able to locate this file?
[00:32] <crypto_> well i have a dual boot vista and ubuntu
[00:32] <crypto_> i want to use the windows boot loader instead of GRUb, will running fixmbr be a good option
[00:32] <tianna> why did my other operationg system crash?
[00:32] <velko> geomi, the file is called /var/log/dmesg
[00:32] <lstarnes> tianna: the people in ##windows can probably help
[00:33] <ZykoticK9> crypto_, if you don't want to boot into Ubuntu anymore that would work fine -- if you DO want to still boot Ubuntu you HAVE to use Grub
[00:33] <GodfatherofEire> beat me to it Istarnes
[00:33] <geomi> velko: doesn't exist for me, running 9.04. any other places?
[00:33] <tianna> oh gooodness thank you
[00:33] <maria1> is there an issue with the wireless on 9.04?   disconnecting upon high-speed transfers and intermittently?
[00:33] <crypto_> well the problem is i get 4 boot options for ubuntu
[00:33] <canthus13> NTloader will boot linux.
[00:33] <geomi> velko: sorry i found it. you were right. thanks :)
[00:33] <bostrt> Billiard:any ideas?
[00:33] <crypto_> one is skernel something point 15 and one is something point 11 the fifteen one wont work
[00:33] <Billiard> crypto_: you can remove the old kernels
[00:34] <Jack_d_Lantern> crypto_, edit the oot gru menu.lst to your liking
[00:34] <ax-ax> and memtest
[00:34] <canthus13> Unfortunately, ubuntu updates will NOT update NTloader and you will have to manually update NTloader to the latest kernel version.
[00:34] <ax-ax> !
[00:34] <Jack_d_Lantern> sorry no d key
[00:34] <crypto_> kernel 15 aint working kernel 11 is working
[00:34] <Billiard> bostrt: nope, i dont have a gui on the machine i ssh to
[00:34] <crypto_> i get some strange kinda screen when i boot into kernel 15 something like bad TV transmission
[00:35] <spO`> should i update ubuntu right now  ? or should i wait until friday?
[00:35] <canthus13> crypto_: fixmbr will remove grub and only boot windows.
[00:35] <darkham> it exist something like mac automator, on ubuntu?
[00:35] <gm|lap> argh does anyone know how to fix the stupid battery meter
[00:35] <gm|lap> it keeps saying it's fully charged
[00:35] <metbsd> spO, what's the difference
[00:35] <gm|lap> yes it's actually charging
[00:35] <usser> spO`, at this point it doesnt matter, i'd update now, because on 29th the traffic will be insane
[00:36] <gm|lap> "Laptop battery fully charged (79.1%)"
[00:36] <usser> spO`, it probably already is but not quite that bad
[00:36] <canthus13> crypto_: This may help, tho... http://bkpavan.wordpress.com/2008/04/02/how-to-boot-linux-using-windows-bootloader-xp/
[00:36] <spO`> will there be much updates from here to friday?
[00:36] <usser> spO`, i doubt it
[00:36] <spO`> Maybe there will be a special big update just before friday on midnight, kind of like the update surprise
[00:36] <crypto_> canthus13 my new version of kernel wont boot, giving me strange errors
[00:37] <ctmjr> usser: that is bad advice it is not stable yet
[00:37] <spO`> so i guess i will simply backup my settings and install the new ubuntu now
[00:37] <usser> ctmjr, its a release candidate meaning, that since theres no time left for another RC it will go released pretty much as is
[00:37] <canthus13> crypto_: Hmm. Could be video drivers.  Karmic?
[00:37] <usser> spO`, look at the page of still unfixed issues see if anything concerns you
[00:38] <usser> spO`, http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/910overview
[00:38] <usser> spO`, scroll down to known issues
[00:38] <Knuthy> Hello
[00:38] <d0htem> need to speak to an ubuntu operator
[00:38] <crypto_> This is an alpha release. Do not install it on production machines. The final stable version will be released on October 29th, 2009. Is it the 29th in india or in USA
[00:38] <d0htem> pretty inportant, ubuntu final leaked
[00:39] <usser> !karmic
[00:39] <crypto_> Cause its 29th in india
[00:39] <lstarnes> d0htem: it's open-source so a leak probably isn't that big of an issue
[00:39] <usser> crypto_, probably 29th in africa
[00:39] <beachdaze> which time zone is the release set for?
[00:39] <digifor> Is there an alternative to plugging my usb memory stick into a Windows machine to get it working again?
[00:39] <lstarnes> beachdaze: none
[00:39] <bostrt> Billiard: i have no idea but it just started working. after three days of nothing
[00:39] <bostrt> i did nothing
[00:40] <pukeko> 29th in NZ
[00:40] <Billiard> bostrt: idk thats odd, you sure ports are open correctly?
[00:40] <canthus13> I'd say it's set for whenever the counter on ubuntu.com ticks over.
[00:40] <usser> they'll be a couple of days late as usual
[00:41] <bostrt> Billiard: just nmap'ed it. the port was filtered but now is open
[00:41] <krishna> !isitout
[00:42] <david_> hi folks
[00:43] <vfen_> when does 9.10 release?
[00:43] <lstarnes> vfen_: later
[00:43] <mataks> is there an aim program for linux?
[00:43] <mataks> what's the name?
[00:43] <Guest51325> tomorrow?
[00:43] <david_> highlighting text in ubuntu (that should make it part of the register) isn't working.  any ideas?
[00:44] <lstarnes> vfen_: sometime within the next 24 hours or so
[00:44] <Helsinkiii> how to run this command: alsa force-reload???
[00:44] <vfen_> do i have to reinstall ubuntu then or?
[00:44] <Billiard> mataks: pidgin or empathy
[00:44] <Billiard> vfen_: no
[00:44] <Guest51325> pidgin
[00:44] <lstarnes> vfen_: you can, but you don't have to
[00:44] <Powersource> anyone good at ubuntuzilla? the please help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1304012
[00:45] <Guest51325> anyone running squid on ubuntu server?  How's performance?
[00:45] <mattgyver> Powersource, what the heck is ubuntuzilla?
[00:45] <Funnyface2> hello, is there any way I can run the ARM release of ubuntu on my x86? I was hoping Qemu would do the job, but I can't seem to find a way to set it to emulate an ARM CPU
[00:46] <Powersource> mattgyver, google it
[00:46] <lstarnes> Funnyface2: use qemu-system-arm
[00:46] <mattgyver> Powersource, ill goggle it ;)
[00:47] <Funnyface2> I think I figured it out :P
[00:47] <Helsinkiii> can someone look at their Alsa mixer settings and tell me what they have because my mic isnt working
[00:49] <ugarit> sudo dpkg --configure -a is extremly slow.  anyone know why?
[00:50] <ugarit> I think this source is the problem ftp://ftp.3drealms.com/share/1rott13.zip
[00:50] <aguyvis> hi
[00:51] <ZykoticK9> Helsinkiii, perhaps this can help you http://embraceubuntu.com/2005/12/05/fixing-the-errant-microphone/
[00:52] <server1> any update about ubuntu 9.10
[00:52] <Pici> server1, Karmic will be released some time during the 29th, i.e: there is no exact time. You can await the announcement in #ubuntu-release-party
[00:52] <Moa> Yes, it's been cancelled. Canonical was acquired by Microsoft 2 hours ago.
[00:52] <ubuntu__> help ive got no sound
[00:54] <Funnyface2> or even worse, by apple
[00:54] <Moa> Why worse?
[00:54] <Frogbarf> what are the main differences between unbuntu and suse?
[00:55] <SpiceMan> ubuntu has 1 vowel, suse 2
[00:55] <Frogbarf> I am thinking of possibly switching, what problems can I expect?
[00:55] <schwinn434> help i,ve got no sound , as-well
[00:55] <Funnyface2> I just dislike apple more than microsoft, don't ask me why
[00:55] <Frogbarf> stumbling blocks
[00:55] <Moa> I'm not hugely fond of either, but at least Apple makes an attempt at a usable UI once in a while.
[00:55] <Pici> !offtopic
[00:55] <spikebike> ubuntu mirrors will be busier for the next few days
[00:56] <Frogbarf> would I have to relearn a lot of stuff?
[00:57] <Funnyface2> schwinn: is your computer some branded one?
[00:57] <Billiard> Frogbarf: some config files may be in different places
[00:57] <schwinn434> seriously, I have no sound Ubuntu 8.10
[00:57] <trism> Frogbarf: probably need to get used to the different package manager, but otherwise...although I haven't used suse in a long time
[00:57] <crypto_> schwinn434 faced the same problem
[00:57] <blaz_>  hi! How to set up autologin to console? I used mingetty option in the past but there is no /etc/inittab anymore in  Karmic
[00:57] <schwinn434> yes hp pavilion dv6000
[00:58] <crypto_> we got the same notebooks too
[00:58] <Frogbarf> How is ubuntu with keeping current with packages? I get annoyed that some suse packages are not updated to the current version for a very long time. Octave is my current headache
[00:58] <schwinn434> really crypto
[00:58] <Frogbarf> very long time can be years
[00:59] <Funnyface2> schwinn: if you plug in some headphones, can you hear sound then?
[00:59] <schwinn434> no Funnyface2
[00:59] <trism> blaz_: not exactly pretty but: http://blogs.koolwal.net/2009/03/15/howto-autologin-into-your-linux-system-without-xdm-gdm-kdm-etc/
[00:59] <schwinn434> vista has sound
[00:59] <ugarit> what is this ftp://ftp.3drealms.com/share/1rott13.zip when I do: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[01:00] <Powersource> anyone? please, i really need help with this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8184183
[01:00] <ZykoticK9> ugarit, rott = rise of the triades (i think)
[01:00] <schwinn434> Ive been using ubuntu for monthsm lost sound last night
[01:00] <agus> hi
[01:01] <ugarit> schwinn434 turn up the volume
[01:01] <balla> how many hours until release?
[01:01] <Pici> balla, Karmic will be released some time during the 29th, i.e: there is no exact time. You can await the announcement in #ubuntu-release-party
[01:01] <tomasz> potrzebuje
[01:01] <tomasz> pomocy
[01:01] <tomasz> jestem totalnie zielony
[01:01] <ugarit> where is conanical located?
[01:01] <agus> I failed using oracle instantclient, anyone can help me please?
[01:01] <schwinn434> not the problem ugarit
[01:01] <Pici> !pl | tomasz
[01:02] <Bruc> hey 9.10 out yet
[01:02] <blaz_> thanks trism!
[01:02] <schwinn434> having boot problems also
[01:02] <dust> i cant seem to get alsa working with soptify+wine
[01:02] <blaz_> you're totally green
[01:02] <dust> i hear lost of noice and after 3 seconds it stops
[01:03] <blaz_> tomasz: you're totally green
[01:04] <ugarit> how do i tell sudo dpkg --configure -a to skip  ftp://ftp.3drealms.com/share/1rott13.zip ?
[01:04] <Bruc> whens 9.10 out
[01:04] <Kamilion> within the next ~2 hours.
[01:04] <Kamilion> 32
[01:04] <Kamilion> not two
[01:04] <Kamilion> thirty two
[01:04] <Kamilion> barring any major discord
[01:05] <Flannel> !isitout | Bruc
[01:05] <kaybee> thanks guys
[01:05] <Funnyface2> will it be possible to upgrade over network, or does it need a full reinstall?
[01:06] <Bruc> is everyone invited to the party?
[01:06] <Pici> Sure!
[01:06] <DeoFavente1> ok the new ubutnu is coming out and I need help (with upgrading)
[01:06] <mattgyver> Funnyface2, you can upgrade over the network but grub2 and ext4 wont be setup
[01:06] <Flynsarmy> It's a little buggy (karmic). the pidgin message received found feels squished so it plays really fast
[01:06] <Kamilion> Funnyface2: Personally, my opinion is that a clean install would be a better option. You can keep your /home/ and use synaptic to dump a package list from your old machine.
[01:06] <DeoFavente1> you need to upgrade all your software to the newest version before you upgrade ubutnu right?
[01:06] <lstarnes> DeoFavente1: that's a good idea
[01:06] <blaz_> If I installed 9.10 beta, will I get 9.10 just with 'aptitude dist-upgrade'??
[01:07] <DeoFavente1> do I have to?
[01:07] <jrib> DeoFavente1: update-manager will do that for you
[01:07] <trism> blaz_: yes
[01:07] <DeoFavente1> but I got a problem then
[01:07] <DeoFavente1> my mysql doesn't upgrade
[01:07] <Kamilion> It is a good idea to do so to pick up any fixes to update-manager before upgrading, yes.
[01:07] <blaz_> cool:)
[01:07] <nobody_> anyone ?
[01:07] <DeoFavente1> the problem has to do with messed up permissions
[01:07] <jrib> !enter | DeoFavente1
[01:07] <Kamilion> DeoFavente1: check out the docs for the 5.0 -> 5.1 transition.
[01:07] <DeoFavente1> ok
[01:08] <schwinn434> my ubuntu 8.10 install seems to get buggier and buggier
[01:08] <DeoFavente1> is there a way to upgrade ignoring mysql?
[01:08] <schwinn434> I really like linux, but the os does seem unstable day in day out
[01:08] <Bruc> if i installl 9.04 now is there a problem upgrading to 9.10
[01:08] <noumaios> update-manager -d
[01:08] <noumaios> yes!
[01:08] <Kamilion> DeoFavente1: yes, you can keep the old 5.0 packages, but the 5.1 client will be installed, IIRC
[01:08] <Flynsarmy> also in 9.10 you can't do a simple amixer set 'Master' 95% unmute either. you have to do 3 lines worth of unmute and even then it doesnt set the volume to 95%. its pretty retarded
[01:08] <Funnyface2> I see, well I will just keep 9.04 until something gets messed up, then install 9.10 when I have to wipe the HD anyway :>
[01:09] <Kamilion> Funnyface2: I'd say do the dist upgrade in another ~2 weeks after the dust settles and the repos arn't so crowded
[01:09] <DeoFavente1> ok thanks for the help
[01:09] <noumaios> i think 'd' for distro...
[01:09] <Kamilion> DeoFavente1: be sure to check out the mysql 5.0 -> 5.1 docs though.
[01:10] <schwinn434> I
[01:10] <blaz_> I'm really impressed with 9.10, for the first time I get smooth webpage scrolling with composition effects enabled.. after all these years...
[01:10] <schwinn434> does clonezilla work will?
[01:10] <Kamilion> DeoFavente1:  I'm looking for the link now.
[01:10] <schwinn434> does Clonezilla work well?
[01:10] <nobody_> someone? spotify with wine, sound scrambled
[01:11] <nobody_> alsa (Sb audigy 2
[01:13] <timdot> anyone know if Karmic will include Firefox 3.5 or still just 3?
[01:13] <lstarnes> timdot: 35
[01:13] <ZykoticK9> timdot, 3.5
[01:13] <lstarnes> *3.5
[01:13] <timdot> ah, cool, thanks :)
[01:14] <DeoFavente1> Kamilion: well ill fix it later, but -d will ignore the upgrade and still upgrade other stuff, right?
[01:14] <Ashfire908> Hi, I'm having issues with my computer and a External Hard Drive (Maxtor OneTouch III). When I plug in the drive (via firewire), it does not appear as a drive (or at all). It works fine on a HP elitebook running Ubuntu. (though the laptop runs x86 while this system is running 64-bit Ubuntu).
[01:14] <Wargasm> hey guys, is there any way to change the startup sound in 9.10?
[01:14] <BlacKnight> hey, is there any text editor as fast as notepad in linux? i use gedit but notepad opens like in 0.5 secs gedit more than that :p
[01:14] <spikebike> vi
[01:15] <blaz_> BlackKnight: nedit
[01:15] <EntityReborn> BlackFate, lol!
[01:15] <Kamilion> DeoFavente1: Won't matter, the button to upgrade will be staring you in the face every time you open up update-manager after tomorrow. Taunting you. Begging you to push it. But you must resist!
[01:15] <BlacKnight> blaz_: thanks let me try
[01:16] <DeoFavente1> Kamilion: Good. I really messed up the permissions with some files important to mysql and now everytime it tried to update it fails horribly
[01:16] <Ashfire908> Also, what time does 9.10 release? (rough time, like "between 4-6 pm" is fine)
[01:16] <lstarnes> Ashfire908: most likily within the next 24 hours
[01:16] <Pici> Ashfire908, Karmic will be released some time during the 29th, i.e: there is no exact time. You can await the announcement in #ubuntu-release-party
[01:17] <lstarnes> *likely
[01:17] <IdleOne> Ashfire908: you can join the trolls and kids in #ubuntu-release-party
[01:17] <Pici> IdleOne: and devs, and operators...
[01:17] <Wargasm> is there any way to change the sounds in 9.10?
[01:17] <Wargasm> they changed the sound dialog box
[01:17] <Ashfire908> lstarnes, Well, i know that.
[01:17] <Kamilion> DeoFavente1: do a mysqldump and full backup anyway.
[01:17] <IdleOne> Pici: yes and the devs and operators. Did not mean to offend you good people who work hard for us :)
[01:17] <Ashfire908> Pici, IdleOne: Ok.
[01:18] <Pici> Wargasm: 9.10 is not released so it is not supported here yet, please use #ubuntu+1 for support in the meantime.
[01:18] <BlacKnight> nice, nedit is what i was looking for Thanks! blaz
[01:18] <DeoFavente1> Kamilion: But the distro upgrade won't be die because of an error in upgrading?
[01:19] <DeoFavente1> leave out the word "be"
[01:19] <diss> please someone tell me how to reinstall grub in ubuntu 9.04 because a windows xp installation wiped it out
[01:19] <IdleOne> !fixgrub | diss
[01:19] <Kamilion> DeoFavente1: ... I... Don't know.
[01:20] <ctmjr> so what's the over/under on how many times is it out yet is asked
[01:20] <IdleOne> ctmjr: +3 weeks now :)
[01:20] <Kamilion> DeoFavente1: But at least with a mysqldump you can remove the package, clean up your mess, and then restore the DB.
[01:21] <DeoFavente1> Kamilion: I was just thinking of removing mysql from that one file that keeps track of the versions and upgrade status - even though that soounds really noobish
[01:21] <amjad> السلام عليكم
[01:21] <Jack_d_Lantern> !arabic
[01:22] <DeoFavente1> Kamilion: /var/lib/dpkg/status I think it is
[01:22] <DeoFavente1> Kamilion and then I can re-add it after distro upgrade
[01:22] <Ashfire908> Uh, ok, my drive started working after various patterns of unplugging/plugging in the firewire, turning the drive on and off, and removing and inserting the ohci1394 and ieee1934 kernel modules...
[01:23] <ro_> hello
[01:23] <ro_> i need help
[01:23] <stinky> hi ro_
[01:23] <ro_> can somebody help
[01:23] <ro_> hi stinky
[01:23] <ro_> how are you
[01:23] <FloodBot2> ro_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:23] <stinky> :D fine
[01:23] <_JacK_> how to list files whose size is greater than 1M?
[01:23] <blaz_> hi ro_
[01:23] <DeoFavente1> everytime you ask for help a kitten dies - wait that's in another channel nvm
[01:23] <ro_> hello blaz how it goes
[01:24] <DeoFavente1> what do you need help with
[01:24] <Jack_d_Lantern> !ot
[01:24] <ro_> i just installes ubunu 9 on a hp tx2
[01:24] <jasmuz> Hello all.. im using Karmic, is it true that the Gnome bar only uses Bmp files instead of png?
[01:24] <ro_> but i can get the audio frivers work
[01:24] <ro_> drivers
[01:25] <losher> _JacK_: something like: find . -type f -size +1M
[01:25] <jasmuz> Hello all.. im using Karmic, is it true that the Gnome bar only uses Bmp files instead of png??
[01:25] <Pici> jasmuz: 9.10 is not released so it is not supported here yet, please use #ubuntu+1 for support in the meantime.
[01:25] <blaz_> what drivers ro_?
[01:25] <ro_> audio drivers
[01:25] <ro_> blaz
[01:25] <Ashfire908> ro_, 9.04?
[01:26] <ro_> yes
[01:26] <rance> hello
[01:26] <ro_> ashfire
[01:26] <jasmuz> Pici, thanks
[01:26] <Kamilion> DeoFavente1: phpmyadmin makes it easy to snapshot mysql. Then use apt-file against the mysql packages, and go check their perms.
[01:26] <ubunturocks> Hello guys
[01:26] <rance> hello?? what is this lol
[01:26] <mikeru> in which timezone is karmic released tomorrow=?
[01:26] <rance> this is irc right
[01:26] <Ashfire908> Oh.
[01:26] <ro_> ashfire988
[01:26] <ubunturocks> I need one clarification
[01:26] <rance> im new here
[01:26] <Ashfire908> Great.
[01:26] <_JacK_> losher: thank you
[01:26] <Pici> mikeru, Karmic will be released some time during the 29th, i.e: there is no exact time. You can await the announcement in #ubuntu-release-party
[01:26] <mikeru> : O
[01:26] <blaz_> ro_: can you elaborate?
[01:26] <mikeru> i love the RC totally
[01:27] <ubunturocks> If I upgrade from ubuntu 9.04 to 9.10 whether my existing dta will be erased
[01:27] <ubunturocks> ?
[01:27] <spikebike> ¿uʍop ǝpısdn ǝdʎʇ oɥʍ ǝldoǝd ɹoɟ lǝuuɐɥɔ nʇunqn uɐ ǝɹǝɥʇ sı
[01:27] <SpiceMan> ubunturocks: no
[01:27] <rance> hello can somebody help me
[01:27] <DeoFavente1> Kamilion: "Then use apt-file against the mysql packages, and go check their perms." I'm sorry what's apt-file and how do I use it?
[01:27] <ro_> what fo you mean blaz ? this is my first time on ubuntu
[01:27] <blaz_> ro_: what is the problem, you try to install something manually?]
[01:27] <mikeru> ubunturocks: maybe, shouldn't
[01:27] <ubunturocks> What about applications?
[01:27] <SpiceMan> spikebike: doubt so
[01:27] <ubunturocks> I installed
[01:27] <Ashfire908> ubunturocks: What would be the point of a "upgrade" then? :)
[01:27] <DeoFavente1> Kamilion: Sounds important
[01:27] <ro_> blaz i installed ubunut on it , but the sound didnt work
[01:27] <mgmuscari> has anybody here been experiencing dropped wifi connections when using wpa/wpa2 since the recent kernel update and/or maybe some recent update to module iwlagn?
[01:27] <ro_> even the video drivers
[01:27] <Kamilion> DeoFavente1: google apt-file and behold it's goodness. in short, apt-get install apt-file then apt-file package mysql-server
[01:28] <ubunturocks> OK. SO It would be better to back up the data on my home folder
[01:28] <ubunturocks> I am right?
[01:28] <Delvien> mgmuscari: yes, but i suspect its my schools wifi. as it only happens when i am at schhol
[01:28] <Kamilion> DeoFavente1: and apt-file should list all of the files that package cares about when it's installing/removing/upgrading.
[01:28] <gogeta> arg vbox hates me'
[01:29] <DeoFavente1> Kamilion: ok I think I can take it from here thanks for the help this mysql has really been frustrating me lately
[01:29] <ubunturocks> I want to know the way,
[01:29] <mikeru> ubunturocks: when I tried upgrading to the beta, it didn't finish and suddenly my screen went black, and then I couldn't boot even in recovery due to kernel panics. I had to install fresh from the beta CD. but since i used a different partition for /home i didn't lose data, and it was a beta, so no surprise it didn't work.
[01:29] <piersd> Anyone managed to get JavaFx working on Ubuntu 8.04?
[01:30] <mikeru> ubunturocks: if you have the time and you have important files, you might want to do so
[01:30] <ubunturocks> I See
[01:30] <ubunturocks> Thanks mikeru
[01:30] <DeoFavente1> mikeru: I have a separate partition for home, but hardly any of my important data is stored there - am I doing something wrong?
[01:30] <mikeru> DooFavente1: depends what you hold in your root partition
[01:31] <Roasted> I saw a picture of an Ubuntu desktop with a fine white text widget that offered a bunch of system information. What widget or setting would that be?
[01:31] <mgmuscari> !test
[01:31] <ubunturocks> can somebody tell how to convert python source code to deb package
[01:31] <DeoFavente1> mikeru: I have have lots of servers running with a bunch of data, should I have created another partition for my servers
[01:31] <mgmuscari> has anybody been experiencing dropped wifi connections using wpa/wpa2 for the last few days? since the recent kernel update or maybe some update to module iwlagn
[01:31] <losha> DeoFavente1: depends. Where *is* your important data if it's not in /home ?
[01:31] <Jack_d_Lantern> !packaging
[01:31] <blaz_> ro_: sorry I don't have alsa drivers anymore, can't guide you..
[01:31] <ro_> :O
[01:31] <DeoFavente1> mgmuscari: not this kernel update but another one long time ago
[01:31] <ro_> :(
[01:32] <ro_> ok
[01:32] <ubunturocks> http://code.google.com/p/vdown/
[01:32] <ro_> thank you
[01:32] <ubunturocks> for this I need to do this
[01:32] <mgmuscari> DeoFavente1: are you using an intel wifi link 5100 agn or 5300 agn?
[01:32] <mikeru> DooFavente1: it's not wrong, but it's better to have your stuff in your home, specially if you have a separate partition. If you only have the / partition with home as a folder, doesn't matter as much. But you should keep your stuff (like documents) in /home/(yourhomedir)
[01:32] <mgmuscari> !test
[01:32] <almoxarife> ubunturocks: checkinstall package works for me for creating source to deb
[01:33] <syntaxer> yo
[01:33] <mgmuscari> how do you restart a kernel module?
[01:33] <piersd> Hi All, anyone got JavaFX to work in Firefox on 9.04?
[01:33] <DeoFavente1> losha: Apache operates in /var/www my debian repository operates in /srv/something and I also have mysql and a fps game server which operates in /var/www/somefolder
[01:33] <ubunturocks> almoxarife> I think IT needs make file
[01:33] <Roasted> Guys - check the right picture from this thread. What widget is that that shows system information? http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=8033362&postcount=15
[01:34] <mikeru> DooFavente1: as for the server question, maybe. I used a separate partition because I use LVM and it's easier to resize the partitions, and many times I put a new distro on my root partition
[01:34] <almoxarife> ubunturocks: it has it
[01:34] <losha> mgmuscari: you can modunload and then modprobe a kernel module, *if* no-ones currently using it...
[01:34] <crypto__> port forwarding
[01:34] <crypto__> anyone
[01:34] <syntaxer> what is the benefit of using LVM over regular partions?
[01:34] <ubunturocks> I check and tell..
[01:35] <mgmuscari> losha: it's my wifi driver... so i guess disable networking and then modunload/modprobe it?
[01:35] <mgmuscari> something is causing it to die and drop the connection when using wpa/wpa2
[01:35] <DeoFavente1> losha: how hard do yoou think it would be for me to move my servers to a new partition? My LAMP server is the only one that would be a problem
[01:35] <hikenboot> is the xen kernel merged with the generic kernel in 9.1      2.6.31-14-generic?
[01:35] <losha> mgmuscari: harmless to try it...
[01:35] <ubunturocks> where it is ..? I could not find
[01:35] <mikeru> syntaxer: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logical_Volume_Manager_%28Linux%29
[01:35] <crypto__> where is the ubuntu release party
[01:35] <crypto__> ?
[01:36] <crypto__> i lost the channel
[01:36] <Argos__> anyways is ubuntu good
[01:36] <Jeruvy> !isitout
[01:36] <Infomomo> release time :d
[01:36] <mikeru> syntaxer: I think  you can have a partition that uses 2 harddrives, but i'm not sure about that…
[01:36] <mikeru> syntaxer: # Resize volume groups online by absorbing new physical volumes (PV) or ejecting existing ones.
[01:37] <losha> DeoFavente1: in theory, you can move them, and just leave a link behind. In practice, some apps are sensitive about running via links because it can be a security issue. You could just make backups of /var/www and /srv, or  maybe move them to their own partitions...
[01:37] <verizondroid> is it out yet?
[01:37] <lstarnes> verizondroid: no
[01:37] <mikeru> syntaxer: but it is a little difficult to set up lvm in ubuntu.
[01:37] <lstarnes> verizondroid: join #ubuntu-release-party
[01:37] <rance> ahh
[01:38] <verizondroid> thanks
[01:38] <syntaxer> yeah..this is my 3rd dstro I've installed
[01:38] <DeoFavente1> losha: ok thanks, ill have to try that someday but that's going to be after I distro upgrade
[01:38] <syntaxer> didn't use LVM this time
[01:38] <rance> i cant find a channel to join i join but then nobody talks
[01:38] <losha> DeoFavente1: backup, backup and backup...
[01:38] <Pici> rance: #ubuntu-release-party is hopping
[01:38] <DeoFavente1> wait I can't connect to release party
[01:39] <DeoFavente1> #ubuntu-release-party right?
[01:39] <losha> rance: are you looking for help on something? What?
[01:39] <lstarnes> DeoFavente1: yes
[01:39] <rance> yes i am
[01:39] <DeoFavente1> weird I'll try logging out then back in
[01:39] <rance> losha can i pm u
[01:40] <losha> rance: I don't think my client even supports pm. Why not ask here in the main channel?
[01:41] <rance> k well i program in python and c++ and i make programs but i want to learn how to make my bot output messages into a textbox or notepad etc.
[01:41] <losha> rance: I don't know the answer to that. Have you tried #python ?
[01:42] <rance> ill try that brb
[01:42] <DeoFavente1> I still can't connect to ubuntu party
[01:43] <mgmuscari> !test
[01:43] <CWinLx> when I create a user can I assign a certain disk quota?
[01:43] <InFy_> hai!
[01:43] <halfpint> i need some help, my mouse keeps freezing after about a minute after logging in, it only freezes on my logitech g5 mouse and my zenith mouse. I am using a fresh install of ubuntu 9.04
[01:43] <mgmuscari> is there some way i can see if update-manager has updated a particular kernel module recently?
[01:43] <Retinar> guys is canonical doing a midnight release of karmic koala
[01:43] <lstarnes> Retinar: there is no set time
[01:43] <InFy_> when is the release ?
[01:43] <kisuke> Retinar: in what time zone?
[01:43] <lstarnes> InFy_: there is no set time
[01:43] <ubunturocks> what is ubuntu security model
[01:44] <ubunturocks> can somebdoy explain
[01:44] <Retinar> ET
[01:44] <lstarnes> !security | ubunturocks
[01:44] <Retinar> Would I be able to upgrade to the final release if I got the dailybuild now?
[01:44] <losha> mgmuscari: a log of all package changes is kept in /var/log/dpkg.log
[01:44] <lstarnes> Retinar: most likely
[01:44] <ubunturocks> ubottu. We cannot login as root
[01:44] <ubunturocks> why friends
[01:44] <lstarnes> ubunturocks: exactly
[01:44] <InFy_> can i upgrade to the RC and then easily upgrade to full later on without update-manager -d? or is the -d required..
[01:44] <lstarnes> !root > ubunturocks
[01:45] <rance> well when i join any chat nobody talks like nobody is in there
[01:45] <lstarnes> rance: that is not uncommon
[01:45] <mgmuscari> hmmm no mention of iwlagn... it just started doing this a few days ago though :/
[01:45] <lstarnes> rance: most irc users don't talk unless they have something to talk about
[01:45] <trism> InFy_: you shouldn't need to do that, just apply all the normal updates and you should be fully at the final version
[01:45] <tjz> hey guys
[01:45] <tjz> ^_^
[01:45] <InFy_> great
[01:45] <spaztik> ok so this is entirely way OT, but anyone know of any software that will allow me to speak into the mic and it'll apply effects in real time, like echo or something?
[01:45] <InFy_> lets's get rollin' then
[01:45] <rance> o ok
[01:46] <kisuke> what time zone is the relase in? gmt?
[01:46] <InFy_> audacity?
[01:46] <InFy_> idk lol
[01:46] <Roasted> Guys - check the right picture from this thread. What widget is that that shows system information? http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=8033362&postcount=15
[01:46] <losha> rance: most channels are much quieter than this one, and operate differently i.e. more like a forum: you ask a question, and then much later (hours, days) someone may reply. Either keep your irc open or check if they have an archive...
[01:46] <gogeta> anyone use virtulbox
[01:46] <partypants> spaztik: i searched for the same recently, like a voice changer, no luck so far.
[01:46] <spaztik> InFy_, real time stuff
[01:46] <rance> o ok
[01:46] <spaztik> partypants, dayum
[01:46] <InFy_> idk lol
[01:46] <spaztik> gotta party this weekend and i wanna mc :S
[01:46] <gogeta> its pissing me off to ni end today
[01:46] <rance> soo anybody program in python cause i need some help :)
[01:47] <Flannel> rance: Try ##python
[01:47] <ubunturocks> lstarnes: Why cant I login as root
[01:47] <lstarnes> ubunturocks: read the message given to you by ubunturocks
[01:47] <Billiard> spaztik: maybe mplayer can apply effects to mic input and play it back to speakers
[01:47] <lstarnes> ubunturocks: er, by ubottu
[01:47] <trism> ubunturocks: by default, root has no password in ubuntu, so you can't log in
[01:47] <syntaxer> I know DJ software and multi track recording apps normally will have some real time plug ins
[01:47] <lstarnes> ubunturocks: the root account is disabled in ubuntu for security reasons
[01:47] <spaztik> fuck, i hate fscking 6tb of data
[01:47] <trism> ubunturocks: which is generally a good thing
[01:47] <spaztik> takes SOOOOO long
[01:47] <rance> i did flannel nobody has talked
[01:47] <lstarnes> ubunturocks: you can use sudo to run applications as root
[01:48] <InFy_> sudo passwd
[01:48] <bfallik> What's the right way to configure dual head so everything happens automatically?  I want to plug in an ext. VGA monitor and have X/Gnome auto configure it, and undo that when it's unplugged.  I'm running karmic now.
[01:48] <InFy_> then you can set the root pw
[01:48] <lstarnes> InFy_: do not recommend that
[01:48] <mikeru> ubunturocks: and it's a security flaw to login as root
[01:48] <spaztik> !root
[01:48] <ubunturocks> Hmm.. they why they have such account
[01:48] <InFy_> it's an open and free platform
[01:48] <lstarnes> ubunturocks: if it is absolutely necessary and you know what you are doing, you can emulate a root login using sudo -i
[01:48] <InFy_> he asks, i provied
[01:48] <InFy_> :\
[01:48] <mikeru> ubunturocks: or sudo -s
[01:48] <choronzon> I installed ubuntu about a week ago. do I have to do the same thing (download, burn, boot, install) to upgrade to the new version or is there some other way?
[01:48] <rance> thx flannel i joined but nobody is talkin
[01:48] <lstarnes> -i works better than -s
[01:48] <ubunturocks> what this command is for
[01:49] <spaztik> !upgrade | Chousuke
[01:49] <spaztik> errr...
[01:49] <lstarnes> ubunturocks: which one?
[01:49] <kisuke> !9.10
[01:49] <spaztik> !upgrade | choronzon
[01:49] <mikeru> lstarnes: what's the difference?
[01:49] <jainrici> hello everyone
[01:49] <choronzon> thanks
[01:49] <rance> hey :)
[01:49] <lstarnes> mikeru: -i simulates a login with root's environment
[01:49] <jainrici> Hi rance
[01:49] <ubunturocks> Hmm
[01:49] <mikeru> lstarnes: afaik, sudo -i changes to your home dir, while sudo -s keeps you at the same dir
[01:49] <lstarnes> mikeru: -s starts a shell with the user's environment without simulating a login
[01:49] <ubunturocks> ubottu is bot?
[01:49] <lstarnes> ubunturocks: yes
[01:49] <jainrici> how to do private chat
[01:49] <jainrici> ?
[01:49] <ubunturocks> Hmm..
[01:50] <lstarnes> jainrici: /query nickname
[01:50] <lstarnes> jainrici: or /msg nickname message
[01:50] <mikeru> lstarnes: umm, nevermind. It changes to /root
[01:50] <jainrici> thnx
[01:50] <mgmuscari> !ubottu | ubunturocks
[01:50] <lstarnes> jainrici: please try to keep support in this channel if it is possible
[01:50] <rance> jainrici do u program
[01:50] <blaz_> spaztik: puredata for example
[01:50] <mikeru> lstarnes: I prefer -s because it keeps you at the same dir
[01:51] <jainrici> I am new to IRC
[01:51] <jainrici> and Xchat
[01:51] <rance> me too i just started 5 mins ago
[01:51] <lstarnes> mikeru: -s handles the environment improperly
[01:51] <jainrici> great
[01:51] <rance> lol
[01:51] <thiebaude> is it out
[01:51] <lstarnes> thiebaude: no.
[01:51] <rance> ill pm u jain
[01:51] <mikeru> lstarnes: hmm…
[01:51] <Dr_Willis> jainrici:  the xchat homepage has some very good tutorial/docs
[01:51] <thiebaude> lol
[01:51] <spaztik> blaz_, sorry what?
[01:51] <Purpley> whats the party chan again?
[01:51] <thiebaude> oops im in the wrong channel
[01:51] <jainrici> pm??
[01:52] <jainrici> i didnt get u?
[01:52] <rance> private chat
[01:52] <blaz_> spaztik: for realtime audio
[01:52] <InFy_> #ubuntu-release-party
[01:52] <lstarnes> jainrici: private message
[01:52] <jainrici> oh
[01:52] <jainrici> great
[01:52] <Purpley> ty
[01:52] <rave> hi how can i upgrade from beta to 9.10
[01:52] <your_it> hey how do you have a 3 way conference chat
[01:52] <DeoFavente1> h00k: ok, im reading now
[01:52] <rance> u left click on my name and send private chat
[01:52] <enosis> hey guys, in my previous install i had a little app that controlled the system's audio, and when I was playing music and then started a video it would mute the music until the video was done and vice versa. anyone knows the name of this app? can't remember it to reinstall :x
[01:52] <lstarnes> rave: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:52] <spaztik> blaz_, wow that looks really complex
[01:52] <DeoFavente1> h00k: fix one is a no-go
[01:52] <spaztik> blaz_, i just wanna apply like an echo or slow my voice down so i can mc to some music
[01:53] <losha> your_it: just have 3 people join a channel which isn't in use (or doesn't exist. It will be created for you).
[01:53] <dro> so is 9.10 going to be releasted at 12:01am 10/29/09 or later in the day?
[01:53] <lstarnes> dro: there's no set time
[01:54] <your_it> but then people can find it on the channel list
[01:54] <Roasted> Guys - check the right picture from this thread. What widget is that that shows system information? http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=8033362&postcount=15
[01:54] <dro> lstarnes: i hope it's right at 12:01am!
[01:54] <DeoFavente1> test me
[01:54] <lstarnes> dro: it isn't
[01:54] <InFy_> your_it, you can set it to private and/or secret
[01:54] <lstarnes> dro: I'm betting 3:27 am
[01:55] <dro> lstarnes: lolol
[01:55] <Kamilion> Roasted: I think that's conky
[01:55] <InFy_> top right click S and P
[01:55] <losha> your_it: you want to keep it private? I think you can do that, but i dunno how. Check on #freenode
[01:55] <your_it> ok
[01:56] <Billiard> spaztik: ive been googling, maybe this program called buzztard will do what you want, not sure if it will do stuff in realtime
[01:56] <bshark>  Hello, if my wireless card works in ubuntu full install, should it also work in a minimal install?... i want to do a minimal install and then add lxde and certain applications, but my wireless card needs to work to do that
[01:56] <jeffrey^^> Is the newest ubuntu out?
[01:56] <Denias> Is the newest ubuntu out?
[01:56] <co_music> Is the newest ubuntu out?
[01:56] <Bolis> Is the newest ubuntu out?
[01:56] <`mrWho> Is the newest ubuntu out?
[01:56] <DeoFavente1> h00: it worked thanks
[01:56] <DeoFavente1> h00k: it worked thanks
[01:56] <waca> Is the newest ubuntu out?
[01:56] <LjL> !ops
[01:57] <mgmuscari> !isitout | `mrWho | waca
[01:57] <Roasted> what time is 9.10 released?
[01:57] <Infomomo> dro: who knows
[01:57] <lstarnes> Roasted: there's no set time
[01:57] <Flannel> Roasted: Please see the /topic in #ubuntu-release-party
[01:57] <Roasted> lstarnes - just midnight?
[01:57] <Amaranth> Roasted: generally about 12 hours from now but it varies
[01:57] <Choky_Ariesta> when LjL takes a shit.
[01:57] <Roasted> flannel - or I could just ask here lol?
[01:57] <co_music> it is out?
[01:57] <naomi> it is out?
[01:57] <losha> bshark: it should, but you may need to explicitly add the drivers for it as they might not be installed automatically in a minimal install...
[01:57] <Roasted> amaranth - good to know, guess theres no reason to stay up late for it then.
[01:57] <jrib> co_music, naomi: stop
[01:57] <halfpint> my mouse freezes after about 2 minutes of booting up, multiple mouses using usb with 9.04, tried google but cant get it
[01:58] <Helsinkiii_> hi
[01:58] <agus> help me how to configure oracle instantclient
[01:58] <Helsinkiii_> can someone help me restore Alsamixer to it's default settings, it's urgent
[01:58] <mesula> What time will 9.10 be released?
[01:58] <illovae> at 2 o'clock
[01:58] <Flannel> Roasted: This channel is for Ubuntu support, not release announcements.  But to answer: Sometime before it's the 30th everywhere.
[01:58] <dro> mesula: no one knows, i already asked
[01:58] <spaztik> Billiard, hmm looks cool.. gotta get this usb mic workin first :S
[01:58] <Pici> mesula, Karmic will be released some time during the 29th, i.e: there is no exact time. You can await the announcement in #ubuntu-release-party
[01:58] <spaztik> i'mactually using my rockband mic
[01:59] <spaztik> bbias though, gotta take dog out
[01:59] <Roasted> flannel - I know, but this channel is too overactively anal about not going the slightest bit off topic here, even if it really is on topic, which results in me not really caring to go to another channel to ask 1 simple question when I can ask here with certainty somebody knows the answer/is wondering the same thing.
[02:00] <Flannel> Roasted: There is no answer.  And again, this channel is for support, not discussion of Ubuntu.
[02:00] <Roasted> I mean, I ask a samba question within ubuntu and I'm told to go to the samba channel. I ask about compiz and I'm told to do to the compiz channel. Anything I ask in here, I'm told to go to that channel, which makes me wonder why this channel exists.
[02:00] <Flannel> Roasted: There's 1500 people here, if we have discussions/conversations, no one gets support.
[02:00] <Roasted> flannel - well, as you've seen me exhibit, I don't really... care. :) So, like I said, I'll ask here, and I did, and it's done.
[02:00] <jrib> Roasted: usually if you ask a really specific channel and it seems like no one knows the answer you are pointed to a place where you are more likely to get help
[02:01]  * losha thinks: let's face it. This channel's going to be a mess for at least the next month
[02:01] <Roasted> jrib - I'm often told to go to channels and when I get there, there's 0 users there. lol?
[02:01] <jrib> s/channel/question
[02:01] <Flannel> Roasted: Someone probably directed you to the wrong channel then.  No one should send you somewhere with zero people on purpose.
[02:01] <DeoFavente1> Roasted: Either you didn't type the name in correctly or you went to the wrong server
[02:01] <thedude42> Roasted, you get what you pay for
[02:01] <jrib> Roasted: well that's just plain not true.  But I don't wish to discuss it anymore.  People are just trying to get you help
[02:01] <DeoFavente1> Roasted: did you put a # in front?
[02:02] <Roasted> deofavente1 - yup.
[02:02] <Flannel> thedude42: That's not an appropriate attitude.
[02:02] <Roasted> hey
[02:02] <Roasted> guys
[02:02] <Roasted> again
[02:02] <DeoFavente1> oh ok nvm then
[02:02] <FloodBot2> Roasted: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:02] <Roasted> I DONT CARE LOLOLOL
[02:02] <Pici> Anyway, people are still looking for support for current versions of Ubuntu, lets let them ask.
[02:02] <EntityReborn> #ubuntu-release-party is just nutz at the mo
[02:02] <tarepanda> how to let  oss sound support in kde4
[02:02] <ethana2> I have an X-25M 34nm SSD on the way
[02:02] <ethana2> they pulled the new TRIM firmware after I downloaded it
[02:03] <partypants> the newest ubuntu is always out.
[02:03] <agus> I cant' connect to instantclient if I use tnsnames.ora
[02:03] <losha> Roasted: pretty cavalier attitude for someone who admits that this is the only channel that ever talks to him...
[02:03] <partypants> ignore that
[02:03] <Pici> losha: let it go.
[02:03] <ethana2> can I ignore the problems as Windows problems
[02:03] <ethana2> ...or do I need to not upgrade?
[02:03] <losha> Pici: dropped...
[02:03] <Roasted> losha - I said this is the only channel that ever talks to me?
[02:03]  * EsmD is away: Nie ma mnie/Away
[02:03] <tarepanda> my oss driver can't work on kde4
[02:04] <tarepanda> my oss driver can't work on kde4
[02:04] <tarepanda> my oss driver can't work on kde4
[02:04] <tarepanda> my oss driver can't work on kde4
[02:04] <FloodBot2> tarepanda: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:04] <Pici> !repeat | tarepanda
[02:04] <DeoFavente1> yea really
[02:04] <Helsinkiii> can somebody tell me their AlsaMixer settings that work thanks
[02:05] <Firepuppy> Hi
[02:05] <Skaperen> hi
[02:05] <syntaxer> hi
[02:05] <DeoFavente1> ok, but I need help with something else again - My problem: I have a desktop with no built in nic (old computer) but with a wired nic card, and my laptop with built in wifi, and a wired/wireless router and a bunch more unimportant stuff. However - the desktop is a yottalightyears away from my router! How do I make my laptop a router for a one-computer network?
[02:05] <blaz_> tarepanda: you mean oss4 /
[02:05] <Roasted> So, I installed conky - and I have no clue where it's at. Anybody?
[02:05] <blaz_> tarepanda: you mean oss4 ?
[02:05] <tarepanda> yes
[02:05] <InFy_> is that laptop win or lin?
[02:06] <tarepanda> osstest is work normally
[02:06] <DeoFavente1> everything is linux in my house - but the unimportant stuff is Fedore
[02:06] <mesula> Roasted: alt+f2 conky
[02:06] <losha> !ics
[02:06] <blaz_> tarepanda: I have oss4, but no kde.. did you try on 4front-tech forums?
[02:06] <tarepanda> pidgin have sound
[02:06] <rafase282> hello
[02:06] <tarepanda> i try now
[02:06] <losha> DeoFavente1: see above re: InternetConnectionSharing
[02:07] <rafase282> how do I have which version of ubuntu I have installed, I want to know if I have i386 or AMD64
[02:07] <Roasted> mesula - Hm, it popped up - but I've seen users with it on their desktop and not necessarily in a window like this. Do you know how to customize this menu and put it there?
[02:07] <DeoFavente1> losha: Iv'e tried firestarter, but It only did the mini-network part - the desktop can't access the big network or the internet
[02:07] <mesula> Roasted: nano ~/.conky.config
[02:07] <DeoFavente1> losha: I have a bunch of servers on my laptop and the desktop can access those
[02:08] <tarepanda> amd64
[02:08] <losha> DeoFavente1: dunno, never had to do it myself. What about the other link?
[02:08] <mesula> Roasted: Or gedit ~/.conky.config
[02:08] <losha> rafase282: try: uname -a
[02:08] <Retinar> hey, unrelated to ubuntu, but generally how safe is it to take apart a CRT monitor?
[02:08] <mesula> Roasted: It's ~/.conkysomething
[02:08] <mesula> Roasted: Might just be ~/.conky
[02:09] <rafase282> thanks
[02:09] <BootzWolf> Retinar, i wouldnt
[02:09] <Roasted> mesula - I dont even have .conky
[02:09] <Mashandar> hello
[02:09] <mesula> Roasted: 'man conky' for answers
[02:09] <syrius> I can't find anything for volume normlize does ubuntu have a how to for this?
[02:09] <losha> Retinar: high voltages on undischarged capacitors, and of course, risk of CRT implosion...
[02:09] <DeoFavente1> losha: My latop does have two nics, btw
[02:09] <syrius> on ubuntu's site
[02:09] <syrius> I can't find it
[02:09] <Firepuppy> I was wondering if a problem in Ubuntu 9.10 has been fixed yet on the PowerPC version where a user account dosen't get created at the end of the installation of Karmic
[02:09] <MasterofPuppets> Hey guys, how many more hours 'til Karmic?
[02:09] <DeoFavente1> losha: Ok, ill try the optables
[02:09] <Pici> MasterofPuppets, Karmic will be released some time during the 29th, i.e: there is no exact time. You can await the announcement in #ubuntu-release-party
[02:09] <Retinar> I see. I'd better leave it alone then. Thanks.
[02:09] <DeoFavente1> losha: iptables
[02:09] <mesula> Roasted: You're probably using default settings, then.
[02:09] <MasterofPuppets> Pici: Awesome, thanks! Didn't know about that channel.
[02:09] <mesula> Roasted: 'man conky'
[02:10] <Roasted> mesula - reading the man page
[02:10] <Roasted> mesula - nothing yet though...
[02:10] <tarepanda> kubuntu 9.10  amd64
[02:10] <losha> DeoFavente1: yeah, Personally, I'd try making the router work...
[02:10] <DeoFavente1> losha: router on my computer?
[02:10] <Pici> Roasted: Also conky's website has some sample configs and more config file documentation.  http://conky.sourceforge.net/
[02:10] <mesula> Roasted: From my own experience, Conky can be difficult and tedious to configure.
[02:11] <losha> DeoFavente1: I thought you said you have a wired/wireless router? That's what they're for...
[02:11] <tarepanda> uaLinux BELIAL 2.6.31-14-generic #48-Ubuntu SMP Fri Oct 16 14:05:01 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[02:11] <Firepuppy> Or, even if it hasen't been fixed, how do I create a new account on Ubuntu Server Karmic when there is no other account present?
[02:11] <mesula> Roasted: Unless you go with a sample config file.
[02:11] <Roasted> mesula - is conky the only widget thing available in ubuntu?
[02:11] <DeoFavente1> losha: Yea but my desktop is at the other end of my house and wiring would be hard
[02:11] <mesula> Roasted: No.
[02:11] <boblawblah> my ubuntu 9.04  wont pick up my intel pro/1000 mt nic
[02:11] <Roasted> mesula - is there a better option you know of out there?
[02:11] <DeoFavente1> losha: and wireless nic cards cost money
[02:11] <mesula> Roasted: No.
[02:12] <losha> DeoFavente1: well, so does your time...
[02:12] <BootzWolf> boblawblah,  is that a wireless nic in a laptop?
[02:12] <boblawblah> no no ethernet in a desktop
[02:12] <mikebl> hey guys.. could anyone please help me... i have installed ath5k for my atheros wifi card, on a laptop running jaunty... i can see the driver listed under lshw but can't get it to work.. also saw that wireless/cfg80211.ko and mac80211/mac80211.ko are both installed
[02:12] <Roasted> Is there a way by terminal to run a command and see what's currently installed from synaptic?
[02:12] <DeoFavente1> losha: true but I was hoping it would cost less. also if I got a wireless nic for my desktop it'd probably need drivers
[02:13] <losha> DeoFavente1: entirely up to you, Dude...
[02:13] <mesula> Roasted: Aptitude
[02:13] <boblawblah> bootz: everything i read says it should pick up automatically but it wont find it
[02:13] <DeoFavente1> losha: I'll try spending time first then
[02:13] <Roasted> mesula - beautiful. thx bro.
[02:13] <thedude42> DeoFavente1, you have 2 wires though, right?  one to the laptop from the connection, and one to the desktop from the laptop?
[02:14] <mesula> Roasted: No problem.
[02:14] <blaz_> Roasted: dpkg -l | grep '^ii'
[02:14] <losha> Firepuppy: tricky. Use the live cd to get root access and create accounts from there. There must be a link, lemme see
[02:14] <DeoFavente1> thedude42: router to latop is wireless - it's a long distance
[02:14] <soreau> DeoFavente1: What you would have to do is use masquerading. If your laptop already has the net, just plug in a crossover cable from laptop ethernet port to the desktop and do this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=91370
[02:15] <losha> Firepuppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword
[02:15] <DeoFavente1> soreau: one day I decided to make my own crossover cable - can't believe I'm actually going to use it
[02:15] <InFy_> set the wired gateway of the laptop to the IP of the wireless connection
[02:15] <sdsdsd> Guys, does Ubuntu goes out today?
[02:15] <soreau> DeoFavente1: Yea, I have one that's 25+' long I made here with some cat5 and a regular ethernet cable
[02:15] <abryant288> i have choppy audio with vlc. can anyone help?
[02:16] <thedude42> DeoFavente1, then all you need to do is enable ip forwarding in your kernel and set the laptop as the default gateway on the desktop
[02:16] <DeoFavente1> soreau: mines 6 feet but my desktop is only like 3 away
[02:16] <soreau> DeoFavente1: Fine. If you get stuck, I might be able to help you
[02:16] <Salvad> Hello.
[02:16] <DeoFavente1> thedude42: "enable ip forwarding in your kernel" that's the iptables stuff right?
[02:17] <Salvad> Is there some command for the console to put the computer in hibernation mode?
[02:17] <soreau> DeoFavente1: If both pc's are running ubuntu, all the stuff you need enabled in kernel is already there by default
[02:17] <thedude42> DeoFavente1, no, it's kernel setting stuff you do int he file system
[02:17] <d1b> morning -> when is 9.10 out :)
[02:17] <mikebl> hey guys.. could anyone please help me... i have installed ath5k for my atheros wifi card, on a laptop running jaunty... i can see the driver listed under lshw but can't get it to work.. also saw that wireless/cfg80211.ko and mac80211/mac80211.ko are both installed, anyway the card doesnt work
[02:17] <soreau> ! work | mik
[02:18] <soreau> mikebl: ^^
[02:18] <DeoFavente1> my laptop and my desktop are running ubuntu - desktop is running 8.04.1 newer ones won't work well on this old computer
[02:18] <poseidon> Me and my friends have a bullitin board.  They all made a thread about the Windows 7 release.  They don't come to my house usually so they don't get to see my ubuntu 9.10 desktop with compiz effects, etc.
[02:19] <poseidon> Anyone know of a good video which shows all this stuff so I can post it and show them?
[02:19] <m-p{3}> Does anybody here has a MSI Wind U210 ?
[02:19] <soreau> poseidon: youtube it
[02:19] <mikebl> hey guys.. could anyone please help me... i have installed ath5k for my atheros wifi card, on a laptop running jaunty... i can see the driver listed under lshw but can't get it to work.. also saw that wireless/cfg80211.ko and mac80211/mac80211.ko are both installed, when i try to connect i only have auto eth0, which is the ethernet card, that was automatically configured, i see no wireless nic
[02:19] <soreau> There are plenty of compiz vids on youtube
[02:19] <poseidon> soreau, I looked on youtube and the only decent quality stuff I could find was ~3 years old
[02:19] <soreau> mikebl: Does lspci show a wireless iface?
[02:19] <soreau> Errr
[02:19] <amane> hi I need help with Karmics grub2: in that the only option is memtest
[02:20] <soreau> mikebl: Does iwconfig show a wireless interface
[02:20] <soreau> poseidon: and?
[02:20]  * erpo waits impatiently.
[02:20] <amane> I'm stuck at the grub screen
[02:20] <soreau> !grub2
[02:20] <poseidon> I'd rather have something more up to date
[02:20] <soreau> poseidon: No one is stopping you from making your own video
[02:21] <poseidon> amane, #ubuntu+1
[02:21] <mikebl> soreau i have Ethernet controller: Atheros Comm Inc. Atheros AR5001X+ Wireless Network Adapter
[02:21] <Pupuser402-1> Somebody report a suicide in 3 minutes at 419 Denny Way, Seattle, WA. My name is Zeek Smith.
[02:21] <poseidon> soreau, when I record it it always lags out and doesn't look very well
[02:21] <soreau> mikebl: Pastebin the output of 'lsmod|grep ath' and 'iwconfig'
[02:21] <mikeru>    http://releases.ubuntu.com/.pool/ubuntu-9.10-desktop-i386.iso
[02:21] <kevipapo1> hey, just got Ubuntu 9.04 up on my PC, and was wondering if someone could give me a low down on seamless integration of
[02:21] <soreau> oh great
[02:21] <kevipapo1> *windows apps in ubuntu, or simply windows
[02:21] <soreau> mikebl: Since you're running karmic, get help in #ubuntu+1
[02:22] <soreau> Ghad damm this channel and it's 1500 nick names
[02:22] <erpo> kevipapo1: There is no perfect solution. What windows apps?
[02:22] <ralphv> Hellow, maco you saw in #puppylinux how alienjeff talks to people threatening suicide
[02:22] <ctmjr> Pupuser402-1: that is not cool at all
[02:22] <mikebl> im running jaunty
[02:22] <poseidon> kevipapo1, have a look at wine.  Best thing offered
[02:22] <Crewsr3> what is the release party irc channel?
[02:22] <soreau> mikebl: I thought mikeru was you *ugh*
[02:22] <Flannel> Crewsr3: #ubuntu-release-party
[02:22] <maco> ralphv: OT for this channel, PM me
[02:22] <Crewsr3> Flannel, thank you
[02:23] <kevipapo1> thanks both of you. for starters, Steam (not for gaming, for the community, maybe for gaming later) and iTunes. I've heard of Wine, and I'm going to install it very soon
[02:23] <kevipapo1> ive heard of the types of things where you run Windows virtually and integrate it into your desktop
[02:23] <erpo> kevipapo1: I don't think iTunes works in wine. You could try virtualbox to emulate Windows.
[02:23] <BlacKnight> whats the best way to install grub2 and not die trying ?
[02:23] <erpo> kevipapo1: However, you will need to use the non-free version of virtualbox if you want USB support for your iPod.
[02:23] <kevipapo1> now i have Windows on another partition, could i simply boot up that partition into something like virtualbox or VMWare?
[02:24] <TBird> kevipapo1: vmware workstation is probably the slickest way to do that... i do the inverse with it though, run Ubuntu seamlessly inside Windows
[02:24] <insaneNproud> anybody know where i can find the old cursor theme from mandrake 7 for ubuntu?
[02:24] <mikebl> ok... i get ath_rate_sample 19968 1, ath_pci 99224 0, wlan 210544 4 wlan_scan_sta.ath_rate_sample, ath_pci, ath_hal 198864 3 ath_rate_sample,ath_pci
[02:24] <knoppies> kevipapo1, never heared of somebody running a real partition as a vmware drive. But you can try it.
[02:24] <gotsanity> Kevipapo1, virtualbox is what you are looking for but i will warn you it will not work very well with 3d apps and games due to the power requirements
[02:24] <TBird> kevipapo1: i wouldnt boot the partition, it wont work again after if you boot it natively
[02:24] <ethana2> erpo: nonFree VBox can handle iPods?
[02:24] <ethana2> is it free?
[02:24] <erpo> ethana2: Free vbox can't handle iPods.
[02:25] <ethana2> erpo: right, you said that..
[02:25] <erpo> ethana2: It's available at no cost for noncommercial use.
[02:25] <soreau> mikebl: So you're using madwifi, not ath5k. Also, pastebin is easier for us to help you. And:
[02:25] <mikebl> and with iwconfig the tonly wireless ext i get is ath0
[02:25] <brandonc503> hey all.. was looking for some application refferals for emarkting... looking for app that lets me build surveys and lets me form campaigns to send emails to people based on their answers to survey questions.. and reports recieved, bounces, opened, clicked thru..
[02:25] <knoppies> insaneNproud, have you looked on gnomelook.org?
[02:25] <ethana2> erpo: ..and that version can?
[02:25] <soreau> ! who | mikebl
[02:25] <m-p{3}> kevipapo1: It is possible, but I did it a while ago to boot the OS from another HDD.
[02:25] <insaneNproud> im basically looking for the hand cursor that has it pointing from a side view like mandrake 7 had
[02:25] <ethana2> erpo: I'm not a business, so..
[02:25] <thedude42> ethana2, it's more to the point that non-free VirtualBox is required to use USB
[02:25] <erpo> ethana2: I've never tried. I hate iTunes, personally, but the only obstacle I see is that free vbox doesn't do USB.
[02:25] <insaneNproud> knoppies, yea i tried there and couldnt find it
[02:25] <ethana2> thedude42: non-free?
[02:25] <soreau> mikebl: Ok, now does 'iwlist ath0 scan' show anything?
[02:25] <thedude42> ethana2, but the term 'non-free' is a misnomer
[02:25] <erpo> ethana2: Non-free vbox does support USB passthrough, so it OUGHT to work.
[02:25] <kevipapo1> thnks knoppies, i know there's stuff like that for apps to run windows boot camp partitions within windows no problem, gotsanity, last thing i wanna do is overload my computer to play games or run 3D apps in ubuntu :P, TBird, why wont it work afterwards?
[02:26] <ethana2> erpo, thedude42, okay, nonfree, I have to pay for it, nonFree, I can't get the source
[02:26] <kevipapo1> m-p{3} could you elaborate on that?
[02:26] <Helsinkiii> how can uninstall and reinstall alsa
[02:26] <ethana2> is there a nonFree but free version I can use to get USB support in iTunes?
[02:26] <mikebl> soreau I get no scan results
[02:26] <TBird> kevipapo1: activation, hardware changes, etc
[02:26] <thedude42> ethana2, when we refer to free and non-free, we're talking about free as in freedom... that is, you can download the version of VirtualBox from Sun's website that supports usb without paying any money
[02:26] <Lint> can you name me some media player with media library? except rhytmbox and amarok
[02:26] <TBird> kevipapo1: it would be like constantly swapping a windows hdd between two different PCs... it wont work well
[02:27] <soreau> mikebl: Ok, well it's broken then. Try this: sudo rmmod ath_pci && sudo modprobe ath5k && iwconfig
[02:27] <ethana2> thedude42: I say Free and nonFree for liberty, and free and nonfree for price
[02:27] <kevipapo1> TBird: true, wont work so well
[02:27] <ethana2> blasted English language.
[02:27] <insaneNproud> knoppies, i searched for mandrake cursor and classic mandrake cursor and pulled nothing
[02:27] <m-p{3}> kevipapo1: http://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=3774
[02:27] <SkyHigh> anyone know about monodevelop?? i just installed it and messed around with it and everything, but i dont know how to access the designer...
[02:28] <None94> internal microphone doesn't seem to work at all in Ubuntu 9.04. It is unmuted, and volume is all the way up. Would appreciate it if someone PM-ed me an answer
[02:28] <kevipapo1> someone mentioned running ubuntu seamlessly in Windows. the only real reason i need ubuntu is to create packages for the jailbreaking community on iPhones and iPod touches, and so i can experiment with the OS some more during this week long break
[02:28] <m-p{3}> kevipapo1: See my post (3rd one)
[02:28] <knoppies> insaneNproud, then I wouldnt know. sorry I cant help/.
[02:28] <vigo> !mono
[02:28] <vigo> whoops
[02:28] <kevipapo1> alright, thanks m-p{3}...lol, i just got what your name sounds like XD
[02:28] <None94> kevipapo1, I wonder if they meant installing Ubuntu via a wubi installation?
[02:28] <mMezquitale> a fresh install of hardy freezes after logging in, anyone ever experienced this?!?
[02:28] <m-p{3}> haha
[02:28] <None94> oh virtual box nevermind
[02:28] <ethana2> I'm still confused.
[02:28] <linxeh> mMezquitale: yes!
[02:28] <mikebl> soreau just did sudo rmmod ath_pci && sudo modprobe ath5k && iwconfig and i get no wireless ext but wlan0 with some info beginning with IEEE 802.11bg ESSID:""...
[02:29] <linxeh> mMezquitale: the motherboard was screwed
[02:29] <pengyg> hi
[02:29] <ethana2> can I, without paying money, sync an iPod with iTunes with Ubuntu as the host OS?
[02:29] <m-p{3}> kevipapo1: Gotta go, hope that helped
[02:29] <vigo> SkyHigh: I have read a little bit about that, but am not up to date on it.
[02:29] <spaztik> any ALSA gurus in here? trying to get my USB mic to play over my default soundcard which goes to my speakers
[02:29] <linxeh>  mMezquitale: YMMV
[02:29] <kevipapo1> alright, thanks m-p{3} bye
[02:29] <soreau> mikebl: Yea, now do 'iwlist wlan0 scan'
[02:29] <SkyHigh> alright, thanks anyways
[02:29] <kevipapo1> None94, no, he was talking about having ubuntu seamlessly in windows, unless he doesnt know what seamless means, i doubt that :P
[02:30] <mMezquitale> linxeh, I have windows installed on that machine and I uninstalled LinuxPC or whatever the name it was, it was working, dont think there's something wrong with my motherboard
[02:30] <m-p{3}> ethana2: Unless Apple make an iTunes client for Linux or if somebody manage to break the hash protection they introduced, you'll have to use a platform that iTunes support.
[02:30] <mikebl> soreau No scan results
[02:30] <None94> ah ;x
[02:30] <ethana2> m-p{3}: right, Windows, but as the host?
[02:30] <hikenboot> I previously asked this question but my scrollback lines were set to only 500..sorry for the repeat but i am wondering if the xen kernel is contained within 2.6.31-14-generic kernel...in other words is it merged with the generic kernel by default now?
[02:30] <bshark> you can virtual box, or wubi
[02:30] <ethana2> does iTunes do some screwy USB protocol side-stepping?
[02:30] <bshark> both are pretty fun
[02:30] <linxeh> mMezquitale: I didn't say there was something wrong with your motherboard. I said there was something wrong with mine, which caused the system to fail under load (Which happened when logging in)
[02:30] <soreau> mikebl: Ok, one more shot: sudo rmmod ath5k && sudo modprobe ath9k && iwlist wlano scan
[02:31] <tjz> do you know why my new install (9.04) do not have sound
[02:31] <soreau> mikebl: s/wlano/wlan0
[02:31] <TBird> kevipapo1: if you want to play games in windows then its best running that as your primary OS and run ubuntu inside it in vmware workstation.. if you do developing then workstation has some good features to help with that too, im told.
[02:31] <m-p{3}> ethana2:  You can use VirtualBox non-OSE to sync it within a Windows guest.
[02:31] <LogicalDash> tjz, one or more of your audio devices might be muted, or there might be a bad configuration file somewhere
[02:31] <ethana2> m-p{3}: and that costs no money, correct?
[02:31] <soreau> ! audio | tjz
[02:32] <kevipapo1> TBird: alright, so would you recommend VMWare as the best virtualization utility for me to use? cause i know there's lots out there
[02:32] <halfpint> how do i logout without using a mouse, since mine froze?
[02:32] <kevipapo1> from there i'll see how i can integrate it into windows seamlessly, no problem
[02:32] <TBird> kevipapo1: its the most mature.... you can download a 30 day demo for free
[02:32] <m-p{3}> ethana2: Yup, it's just that the USB code is currently proprietary, they don't charge any cost for it. It's just non following the OSE model.
[02:32] <LogicalDash> halfpint: if you happen to have dontzap disabled, you could use ctrl+alt+backspace
[02:32] <TBird> kevipapo1: Unity mode is awesome.
[02:32] <ethana2> m-p{3}: thank you very much
[02:32] <kevipapo1> TBird
[02:33] <halfpint> that doesnt seem to be working
[02:33] <kevipapo1> *TBird: alright, what does unity mode do?
[02:33] <ethana2> anyone else here have a 34nm Intel SSD?  I don't know whether to upgrade to their redacted firmware
[02:33] <mikebl> soreau when i enter iwlist wlan0 scan i get ERROR: Module ath5k does not exist in /proc/modules
[02:34] <kevipapo1> TBird: oh, from what i googled, it looks like thats the integration feature of vmware
[02:34] <TBird> kevipapo1: ubutu apps run side-by-side with windows apps, or vice versa... or you cna just run ubuntu ina window, or full screen.
[02:34] <soreau> mikebl: What is the output of 'lsmod|grep ath' now?
[02:35] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[02:35] <kevipapo1> TBird: great! i guess installing Ubuntu wasnt really worth it after all, seeing as i only need to do .deb packaging. alright thanks, ill remove the partition and set Ubuntu back up in VMWare. ive got a powerful computer so i'm not worried too much about the issue of virtualization in general
[02:35] <ShapeShifter499> how do I open port 22 for all ip's on my wifi router?
[02:35] <insaneNproud> are there any other sites that have cursor themes besides gnome look?
[02:36] <ShapeShifter499> I need to open port 22 for my ssh server
[02:36] <mikebl> soreau i now have ath9k,lbm_cw_mac80211,lbm_cw_cfg80211,led_class,ath_rate_sample,wlan,ath_hal... im sorry i cant paste the text im chatting using another computer...
[02:36] <soreau> ShapeShifter499: That's hardly a ubuntu question. It would be specific to your router, so consult your router manual, ask in #networking or google it
[02:36] <{Nathan}> I haven't used Ubuntu in 3 years. Where did my xorg.conf go? Ubuntu messed up my display and it doesn't show anything on boot.
[02:36] <LogicalDash> ShapeShifter499: typically you have to do that using your router's firmware.
[02:37] <soreau> mikebl: Does 'iwconfig' show wlan0?
[02:37] <ShapeShifter499> oh I did not know of a #networking channel
[02:37] <mikebl> soreau i just saw in the network icon that wireless networks just dissapeared, before it was showing it in gray.. i saw it, but couldnt click on it anyways
[02:37] <Kalculus> what does it mean when an object's permissions are   ---s--s--t  ?  what is the t?
[02:37] <hype> ipconfifconfig
[02:37] <ShapeShifter499> i'll go there
[02:37] <hype> ifconfig
[02:37] <mikebl> soreau iwconfig does not show wlan anymore
[02:37] <hype> soreau
[02:38] <breakmyfall> has the issues with ati graphics card solved in karmic ?
[02:38] <soreau> mikebl: Ok well I guess you need ath5k then. sudo rmmod ath9k && sudo modprobe ath5k
[02:38] <breakmyfall> when enabled effects
[02:38] <TBird> kevipapo1: yep, cool
[02:38] <hype> have anyone a downloadlink to karmic?
[02:38] <webbb82> is there anyway to get firefox 3.5 to not suck so bad
[02:38] <hype> i cant find one
[02:38] <trism> hype: it's not out yet
[02:38] <kevipapo1> TBird: alright thanks, im out then, peace
[02:38] <StrangeCharm> is it possible to change a dm-crypt volume that currently uses a passphrase to be mounted at boot time, so that it can be automaticcaly mounted using a keyfile?
[02:39] <kevipapo1> i might get back in here over in windows, maybe
[02:39] <TBird> kevipapo1: theres other virtualisation solutions for windows... virtualpc, virtualbox etc..
[02:39] <hype> iam from germany and on ubuntuusers.de stay, out now today xxD
[02:39] <Guest11603> i have a gx270 and need the integrated graphics card drivers for it, anyone know where to get it?
[02:39] <Lint> how can I add user to sudoers file
[02:39] <soreau> mikebl: But if iwconfig is showing wlan0 and 'iwlist wlan0 scan' shows no scan results, something is still wrong
[02:39] <kevipapo1> VMWare look pretty spiffy though
[02:39] <mikebl> soreau just did that and the wireless option came back, it's still in gray though.. can't click on it
[02:39] <kevipapo1> alright thanks, bye
[02:40] <usser> Guest11603, dell optiplex gx270 uses intel and works out of the box
[02:40] <Voss> usser, thats a much older intel chipset
[02:40] <mrb> guyz, does anyone knows when could Karmic be online to download today ?!!!
[02:40] <Voss> gx270 is 5 years old
[02:40] <Lint> how can I add user to sudoers file?
[02:40] <usser> Voss, gx270 is a chipset model or a pc model?
[02:41] <soreau> mikebl: You might have to compile your driver, madwifi (which provides ath_pci module and ath0 interface) or ath5k (which provides ath5k module and wlan0 iface)
[02:41] <Sapote> Lint: useradd
[02:41] <ZykoticK9> Lint, add the user to the "admin" group
[02:41] <mikebl> soreau how do i do that?
[02:41] <Voss> gx270 is a 5 year old dell model
[02:41] <soreau> mikebl: Sorry I can't help more; ask in #madwifi
[02:41] <usser> Voss, just recently i installed debian lenny on an gx240 and it worked great
[02:41] <Guest11603> yes it is, I need the gx270 drivers upgrade for ubuntu 8.10
[02:41] <lstarnes> Lint: try adding the user to the admin group (sudo gpasswd -a user admin)
[02:41] <Voss> gx240 is from 2002
[02:41] <Sapote> usser: debian work great
[02:41] <mikebl> soreau thank you a lot for your time :)
[02:42] <usser> Sapote, indeed. imaged 30 pcs so far with debian
[02:42] <Voss> Try getting ubuntu 9.10 running on the optiplex 760 and we will talk :-/
[02:42] <Guest11603> there are things I can't do with it until i get the upgraded repositories or whatever
[02:42] <usser> Voss, why thats what im running right now on my work pc :)
[02:42] <usser> Voss, which is accidently gx760
[02:42] <Voss> usser, dell stopped using gx
[02:42] <Lint> ZykoticK9, lstarnes: it doesn't work
[02:43] <slinger> Voss, whats wrong with 9.10 on the dell optiplex 760's?
[02:43] <ZykoticK9> Lint, did you log out / back in?
[02:43] <Lint> no
[02:43] <Voss> slinger, the intel video I think
[02:43] <maggot_brain> what's the best uk mirror for Ubuntu w.r.t to being up to date?
[02:43] <mblues> Hi there - quick question: if I remove Wine using package manager (I would like to update it) would that also delete everything on my virtual drive?
[02:43] <usser> Voss, optiplex 760, sorry
[02:43] <lstarnes> Lint: that user will need to log out
[02:43] <lstarnes> mblues: no
[02:44] <slinger> oh ok, I've had one running fine on 9.04 for a while now but it has an ATI card for graphics
[02:44] <usser> mblues, no
[02:44] <mblues> ?
[02:44] <ZykoticK9> mblues, just don't purge and it should be fine - check in .wine in your home folder
[02:44] <Guest11603> drivers needed for gx270 graphics ???
[02:44] <mblues> Nice..
[02:44] <Voss> mblues nah, I sometimes have to uninstall wine because updates installs new versions. I stick with 1.1.23
[02:44] <Sapote> mblues: rm $home/.wine/*
[02:44] <mblues> So to confirm, I would have to manually delete .wine/ to remove my virtual settings?  (I don't want to lose my apps ;))
[02:45] <ZykoticK9> mblues, Sapote's suggestion would remove your settings/programs!!!
[02:45] <mblues> Zyk, yep - I think I got it - as long as I don't nuke my wine directory I'm good.
[02:45] <hoonteke> is there any word on the exact time tomorrow that Ubuntu will be released?
[02:46] <partypants> 11:36:47AM EST
[02:46] <lstarnes> hoonteke: no
[02:46] <Sapote> :D
[02:46] <hoonteke> heh, thanks partypants.  :-)
[02:46] <hoonteke> lstarnes: any reason why no?
[02:46] <partypants> anytime
[02:46] <mikeru> when the mirrors finish downloading the iso images from the pool
[02:46] <lstarnes> hoonteke: the mirrors have to be set up
[02:46] <hoonteke> mikeru: ah, makes sense.
[02:46] <slinger> I'm guessing all the packages are already at the release version, why not just upgrade to the new version?
[02:47] <lstarnes> hoonteke: predicting how long it takes to set up mirrors isn't an exact science
[02:47] <Helsinkiii> i need someone to tell me their AlsaMixer setting asap
[02:47] <Guest11603> GX270 graphics drivers for ubuntu 8.10
[02:47] <Helsinkiii> my mic isnt working
[02:47] <hoonteke> lstarnes: yep, I hadn't thought about that mirrors bit.  makes sense.
[02:47] <Lint> no, it doesn't work even after relog.
[02:47] <lstarnes> Lint: which edition of ubuntu are you using?
[02:48] <lstarnes> hoonteke: there could also be critical bugs that need last-minute patching
[02:48] <volante> i accidently blew away /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf - owned by the module-init-tools package.  how can i recover the base version of that file?
[02:48] <Lint> jaunty
[02:48] <volante> cos my system is a fresh install of 9.10
[02:48] <ZykoticK9> Lint, when you ran "sudo gpasswd -a user admin" you did replace "user" with you username you wanted right?
[02:48] <partypants> How does one set a drive to automatically mount when ubuntu starts up?
[02:48] <hoonteke> lstarnes: depending on what you mean, yep, usually there are.
[02:48] <mikeru> If I'm  running karmic RC, updating is a dist updgrade or just newer packages for my system
[02:48] <ZykoticK9> partypants, fstab
[02:48] <mikeru> ?
[02:48] <Lint> sure I did, I am member of admin group
[02:48] <partypants> thanks
[02:48] <lstarnes> Lint: desktop or server?
[02:48] <Sapote> partypants: /etc/fstab
[02:49] <Lint> desktop
[02:49] <lstarnes> Lint: then adding to the admin group should work
[02:49] <hoonteke> lstarnes: if yo umean with the distro itself, I tend to wait about a month before I upgrade
[02:49] <ZykoticK9> Lint, in a terminal type "groups" does it list "admin"?
[02:49] <hoonteke> then it's about an hour to install and update all the bugs since found.
[02:49] <Lint> yes, like I said
[02:50] <partypants> hmm... fstab: command not found
[02:50] <partypants> oh
[02:50] <partypants> duh nvm
[02:50] <Sapote> partypants: fstab is not a command
[02:50] <partypants> mybad
[02:50] <ZykoticK9> partypants, fstab is a file /etc/fstab - you need to edit it with the drives you want to mount
[02:50] <partypants> thanks
[02:51] <volante> can anyone help?  where do i find the .deb file for module-init-tools for karmic
[02:51] <murcherson> hi folks where can i find the flash executable in my filesystem
[02:51] <zozozi> what's a really small ubuntu distro that will run on qemu?
[02:52] <Lint> ubuntu is bloated like hell
[02:52] <Helsinkiii> CAN SOMEBODY HELP ME FIX ALSAMIXER
[02:52] <usser> zozozi, install ubuntu server and go from there if you really want to go ubuntu
[02:52] <mysoogal> is there a nzb video streaming application for linux ?
[02:52] <{Nathan}> I ran the thing that tests all your hardware and when it did the video test, my screen went black. Now, when I boot, I only get a black screen. I have an Intel card. How can I fix this?
[02:52] <volante> erm who knows about package management?  i accidently overwrote a config file from the module-init-tools package.. i want the standard version back..
[02:52] <zozozi> usser: which is smallest server install?
[02:53] <mysoogal> does linux have a usenet video streaming application ?
[02:53] <Lint> volante, reconfigure?
[02:53] <hype> grub2 is crap
[02:53] <volante> lint, what you mean?
[02:53] <usser> zozozi, server install is as small as it gets with ubuntu, you only get a command line interface, from which you can packages you want, like xserver, a window manager etc
[02:53] <zozozi> i really want a gui, dsl is ok but i'm having trouble getting it onto qemu
[02:53] <volante> lint, i think i just need to find the .deb package somewhere and extract the file from that
[02:53] <StrangeCharm> what's the apt command for a distro update?
[02:53] <mblues> thanks for the help guys, have a nice evening all!
[02:53] <zozozi> usser: k thanks, i'll try that
[02:53] <hype> update-manager -d
[02:53] <mysoogal> sudo apt-get isntall update
[02:53] <mysoogal> ops
[02:54] <maco> StrangeCharm: sudo apt-get update
[02:54] <Sapote> StrangeCharm: apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:54] <rance> UBUNTU FTW!
[02:54] <rance> lol i had to do that
[02:54] <maco> StrangeCharm: then to install them. sudo apt-get upgrade
[02:54] <mysoogal> anybody using Graboid ?
[02:54] <hype> update-manager -d
[02:54] <maco> StrangeCharm: the first one i said checks for updates
[02:54] <hype> ;)
[02:54] <StrangeCharm> thanks Sapote
[02:54] <jjrev> zozozi: check out TinyCore
[02:55] <mysoogal> does anybody know if ubuntu has a nzb video streaming application ?
[02:55] <hype> vlc
[02:55] <Helsinkiii> vlc
[02:56] <Dasda> vlc streams nzb's while they download?
[02:56] <Dasda> how?
[02:56] <Dasda> that is so cool
[02:56] <Lint> can someone show what /etc/sudoers should look like?
[02:56] <halfpint> my mouse freezes after a minute of logging in i have looked on the help forums i cant find anything that helps...
[02:56] <halfpint> its frozen now btw
[02:57] <mysoogal> halfpink i got that also on win pro sp3 !
[02:57] <Destructo> whoa
[02:57] <breakmyfall> any one using ati graphics
[02:57] <hype> # /etc/sudoers
[02:57] <hype> #
[02:57] <hype> # This file MUST be edited with the 'visudo' command as root.
[02:57] <hype> #
[02:57] <hype> # See the man page for details on how to write a sudoers file.
[02:57] <halfpint> no ubuntu 9.04
[02:57] <FloodBot2> hype: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:57] <mysoogal> iwhen playin games mouse freeez
[02:57] <mattgyver> Lint, http://pastebin.com/m71a7a28d
[02:57] <losha> mysoogal: this graboid? http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=792879
[02:58] <halfpint> my mouse freezes just by moving it around for a minute
[02:58] <ipauldev> Hi all, I am wondering if anyone has any suggestions for how to monitor apache bandwidth for virtualhosts, or if there's a supported snmp module available to enable in Ubuntu?
[02:58] <hoonteke> bandwidth ... not exactly, but have you seen apachetop?
[02:58] <mattgyver> Does anybody know how to remedy 'stuck keys' in VNC?
[02:58] <z987k> I just installed 9.10RC on a new box tonight and it doesn't have shit in the repositories.  All the repos are enabled in the sources section.  Is this just something with the RC?
[02:58] <ZykoticK9> Lint, the sudoers file is to add programs that won't require Admin passwords -- you don't add users too it (in a usual manner)
[02:59] <mysoogal> losha NO graboid is a free client to usenext you download things from there !
[02:59] <xiambax_> Can someone should me how to make a bootable usb stick on macosx?
[02:59] <losha> mattgyver: I don't think I've ever had a 'stuck key' in vnc. What exactly do you mean?
[02:59] <Dasda> so anyone know how to stream nzb's in ubuntu?
[02:59] <brova> hey guys. i have finally decided to make the switch from windows to ubuntu. i have a thinkpad and my hard drive is partitioned into 3 parts. im currently booting from USB. what i want to do is reformat my entire hard drive, or use shred command to erase all traces of vista. can anyone help me with the shred command to use ?
[02:59] <xiambax_> I used dd to do it from terminal but its not bootable
[02:59] <hype> Dasda
[02:59] <mattgyver> losha, when i connect in and start typing sometimes a button will just repeat as if someone were holding down the key ,the only way to fix it is to reboot the box ;x
[02:59] <Lint> ZykoticK9, I've just add admin group there and now sudo works!
[02:59] <hype> what is an nzb?
[02:59] <z987k> brova, all you need to do is format
[03:00] <ZykoticK9> Lint, why was the admin group not there?
[03:00] <dukz_> \q
[03:00] <Dasda> usenet file hype
[03:00] <brova> z987k: in linux or in vista ?
[03:00] <mysoogal> nzb is like a container of parts of a big file
[03:00] <need_help> hey need help! can someone help me with open ssh tunnel to vnc from windows to linux box ?! i open putty and i added to tunnels: 5900:localhost:5900 and connect to vnc! is that right! thx
[03:00] <Roasted> Samba Users - Do you keep your Samba password the same as your Ubuntu system password?
[03:00] <Knuthy> brova: the Ubuntu installer gives you the option to use all your harddrive for the install, it'll erase the Vista partition and format it
[03:00] <Lint> ZykoticK9, how the hell I can know?
[03:00] <mikeru> I'm sooo confused about usenet
[03:00] <z987k> uh, well linux I guess
[03:01] <mattgyver> need_help, that sounds right but your gonna VNC to localhost:5900
[03:01] <mikeru> the files are only stored on a particular usenet server, aren't they?
[03:01] <z987k> brova, just use the partition manager in linux to format the vista parition
[03:01] <brova> Knuthy: thank you, i will try that and see if i run into any problems :)
[03:01] <mysoogal> you will only get on usenet if you pay for it ! but i get it for free :D
[03:01] <losha> hype: a nzb is a file that lists a bunch of other files to be downloaded, usually from usenet. A sort of alternative to torrents
[03:01] <Knuthy> brova: you wont ;)
[03:01] <need_help> mattgyver yup
[03:01] <need_help> mattgyver actually i wanna to make sure of what i did if it's right :)
[03:01] <mattgyver> need_help, you may want to use 127.0.0.1 as opposed to local host though, it probably wont make a difference but .. thats what i do
[03:01] <scratchme> Is there a program like Virtual CD (a windows app) for Linux?  The specific feature I'm looking for is emulating a CD/DVD burner not just reader.
[03:01] <phaidonx> so I am trying to install a .deb file but it's complaining about a  dependency that cannot be satisfied libqt4-opengl ( >=4.5.1) From what I can tell that's only on Karmic but I am still on Jaunty, anyway to get that libqt4-opengl 4.51?
[03:01] <mysoogal> the speeds on usenet r pretty crazy ! i hate torrents so much now
[03:01] <brova> Knuthy: i know, i asked about shred because my college professor accidentally used it against his computer in class first week of college LOL
[03:02] <Helsinkiii> hello
[03:02] <brova> he didnt mean to hit enter haha
[03:02] <mzuverink> I have a amd 64 bit machine, is it still necessary to install 32 bit firefox for plugin support, or have the 64 bit stuff finally catch up?
[03:02] <Helsinkiii> can someone help me get my mic working
[03:02] <Helsinkiii> please
[03:02] <Lint> phaidonx, add the karmic repository manually
[03:02] <Knuthy> ^^
[03:02] <losha> mattgyver: I've never seen that failure mode. You're sure the physical keyboard isn't faulty?
[03:02] <mikeru> umm, does somebody know a good, free usenet server?
[03:02] <mysoogal> mikeru YES
[03:02] <need_help> mattgyver now i vnc to localhost:5900 and it work but that's a secure !right
[03:02] <mattgyver> losha, no i have had it happen on other machines too
[03:03] <mattgyver> need_help, yeah if your connecting localhost:port then it works
[03:03] <z987k> is there a reason 9.10RC has very little in the repositories?
[03:03] <mikeru> mysooga1: yes what ?
[03:03] <mattgyver> need_help, dont forget to remove port forwards you might have had previously though if you dont need them, thats easy to forget ;)
[03:03] <need_help> mattgyver the localhost:port where :port= the vnc listening port of linux box! ?
[03:03] <maco> z987k: what makes you think that? also #ubuntu+1
[03:04] <mattgyver> need_help, yes i guess i should have said localhost:tunnell port
[03:04] <phaidonx> Lint in /etc/apt/sources.list? which one? restricted, universe multiverse?
[03:04] <need_help> mattgyver aha thx alot :*
[03:04] <Lint> phaidonx, main, I believe
[03:04] <mattgyver> losha, its the damndest thing and a pain in the butt too.
[03:04] <phaidonx> Lint: won't that conflict with my current jaunty source?
[03:04] <Ozzah> Hi guys... I have a bash script, call it run.sh - I want to cd to every subfolder in the current directory and execute run.sh. I have a lot of subdirectories in ., what is the easiest way to do it? can I somehow use find -exec ?
[03:05] <phibxr> z987k, try to switch to the main repositories instead of your local repository. some of the local ones (the danish at least) have been a bit dodgy over the past few days.
[03:05] <Lint> phaidonx, it won't unless you'll try to upgrade
[03:05] <corden> in what time 9.10 wil be release?
[03:05] <losha> mattgyver: I can imagine. Whose client and server do you use?
[03:05] <z987k> maco, I installed it on a new box tonight and I go to install things and the most basic packages like sshd are missing
[03:05] <z987k> phibxr, thanks, I'll look into that
[03:05] <hype> where u from? @ all?
[03:05] <phaidonx> Lint: aha! Iam likely going to at some point... so when I need to upgrade just comment that out?
[03:05] <maco> z987k: did you hit the "reload" button in synaptic after installin?
[03:05] <Knuthy> Ozzah: yes, find is the solution
[03:05] <Lint> phaidonx, yes
[03:05] <z987k> maco, yeah they all time out
[03:06] <maco> z987k: the cd wont know whats available online, so you have to tell the machine to check the ......oh
[03:06] <maco> z987k: ok then it cant get the list of packages
[03:06] <maco> z987k: try another mirror
[03:06] <halfpint> .
[03:06] <mattgyver> losha, its x11vnc, which i might have this wrong but i believe it still is tightvnc
[03:06] <breakmyfall> Hello, I have intel core 2 duo - which computer arch do i have to download 32bit version or 64bit version
[03:06] <boblawblah> whats a cheap gigabit nic that ubuntu will auto detect?
[03:06] <hype> mirror? from ubu9.1?
[03:06] <hype> gibe me plz
[03:06] <phibxr> z987k, the closest I found was "openssh-server" when I searched for sshd though. but, still, go with the main repositories for now until things have settled down a bit. :)
[03:06] <maco> z987k: the one you're on is probably overloaded by everyone else trying to get it
[03:06] <mattgyver> losha, x11vnc just ensures that it loads as soon as X loads
[03:06] <Ozzah> Knuthy: I have never used find before... I tried just a few minutes ago, and I'm not sure how to get it do just do the 1st level of subfolders. It always returns all files in all subfolder
[03:06] <Roasted> Samba Users - Do you keep your Samba password the same as your Ubuntu system password?
[03:06] <z987k> ok, thanks guys
[03:07] <phaidonx> Lint: So I just added main and then sudo apt-get update and looked into synaptic and I don't see 4.5.1 :s
[03:07] <Knuthy> Ozzah: does your run.sh takes a directory as parameter?
[03:07] <mattgyver> Roasted, no, not typically for security reasons.
[03:07] <maco> phibxr: yeah openssh-server is the usual for that
[03:07] <hype> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/9.10/ <-- empty :(
[03:07] <ZykoticK9> breakmyfall, 32bit OR 64bit < your choice
[03:07] <{Nathan}> I ran the thing that tests all your hardware and when it did the video test, my screen went black. Now, when I boot, I only get a black screen. I have an Intel card. How can I fix this?
[03:07] <maco> hype: not released yet!
[03:07] <maco> hype: join #ubuntu-release-party
[03:07] <mattgyver> Roasted, I find it best to make a specific user for the purpose of the share
[03:07] <Lint> phaidonx, did you reload package lists? you should see many updated packages
[03:07] <phibxr> maco, righty. not really into that stuff myself, but I guess he'll find what he's looking for at least then. :)
[03:07] <Ozzah> Knuthy: no, it is just going to do some stuff in batch, as though I were typing it in the console - except that it would take forever if I did it by hand.
[03:08] <breakmyfall> ZykoticK9: really, so i can download 64 bit karmic and it will work
[03:08] <MikeFromCanmore> !intel
[03:08] <MikeFromCanmore> ugh, that's old
[03:08] <Roasted> mattgyver - what if you just have your home directory set up to be shared through samba? So /home/matt gets shared to "Matt" on your Samba server?
[03:08] <maonx__> 
[03:08] <Ozzah> Knuthy: So I guess I'll need to cd to each subfolder first, and then execute run.sh from within
[03:08] <mrc> nån som vet hur jag kan fixa in compiz på ubuntu 9.10
[03:08] <phaidonx> Lint: what do you mean by reload?
[03:08] <mrc> e newbiee
[03:08] <Knuthy> Ozzah: wait, you mean you have run.sh in each directory?
[03:08] <MikeFromCanmore> There is a new performance regression with recent updates on intel chipsets - anyone know about this already?
[03:08] <losha> mattgyver: Interesting: Sounds like this, no? http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=180868
[03:08] <ZykoticK9> breakmyfall, so long as it's "Core 2 DUO"
[03:08] <mattgyver> Roasted really its okay either way but some of the apps i use for whatever reason dont encrypt the password or show it, so for that reason i dont
[03:09] <Lint> phaidonx, press Reload button in Synaptic, for example
[03:09] <breakmyfall> yes it is :), thank you ZykoticK9
[03:09] <Lint> !se
[03:09] <mrc> oh, Im new on ubuntu 9.10, cant get compiz to work
[03:09] <mysoogal> anybody runnin 9.10 ? hows it goin for ACER laptops ?
[03:09] <phaidonx> aha! I hadn't hit the save button on sources.list :p
[03:09] <howdy> hey developers, great job on 9.10. no errors with the upgrade. :0)
[03:09] <mattgyver> Roasted, lets say i have multiple users who need to connect to that share, i dont want to give out my ubuntu password, so i create another login for that purpose only, make sense?
[03:10] <breakmyfall> compiz on ati graphics card doesn't work properly on mine
[03:10] <mattgyver> So, for 1 Share, i might have multiple login accounts
[03:10] <phaidonx> Lint: argh, still no 4.5.1 in synaptic :(
[03:10] <Knuthy> Ozzah: if you can explain it more clearly it'd be better, for example where's the "run.sh" file? and do you need to run it for each subdirectory?
[03:10] <Ozzah> Knuthy: no, but it's in . so I can just call ../run.sh
[03:10] <mrc> compiz not working on ubuntu 9.10 dell inspiron 9400
[03:10] <breakmyfall> i hope it will run better on karmic, it ran well on hardy tho
[03:10] <Roasted> mattgyver - what if the only reason you have your home directory shared out is so YOU (and only you) can access it from a laptop in the house?
[03:10] <Ozzah> Knuthy: yes, but it shouldn't matter if run.sh is in each sudirectory, cos I can call it using relative paths? (sorry, I'm not very good at this)
[03:11] <mattgyver> Roasted, I was just about to say if that is the case its perfectly okay to do that
[03:11] <Roasted> mattgyver - I wouldn't share out my entire home directory for anybody to use. But I have my samba account "jason" linked to /home/jason.
[03:11] <Roasted> mattgyver - the only thing was, I originally had a separate samba password than my jason ubuntu login password.
[03:11] <mattgyver> Roasted, Yeah i have just found over time thats a best practice of mine.  it also makes the administration of accounts a little smoother as things grow
[03:11] <Roasted> mattgyver - but If igured out somehow in windows credential manager I can "reset" my samba password from within windows.
[03:12] <Roasted> mattgyver - I was just curious if it was a common practice of other users to use different logins for samba/ubuntu. Not whether its the most secure, but what was the most common.
[03:12] <Knuthy> Ozzah: well, find . -type d -execdir ../run.sh \;
[03:12] <Lint> phaidonx, do you see upgradable package list? is that library there?
[03:12] <usser> Roasted, samba shares your profile by default, i believe.
[03:13] <mattgyver> Roasted, honestly the most common, probably just using the users password, most people dont go the extra mile at least not for home networking reasons
[03:13] <usser> Roasted, you can access it with \\sambaserver\username
[03:13] <Roasted> usser - oh does it? I have 4 samba users set up, and the other 3 users I have shared out to sepcific directories on a 2nd hard drive, so the only home directory in use is my own. Never knew that.
[03:13] <Knuthy> Ozzah: will execute run.sh from within each sub-directory (use absolute path for the run.sh)
[03:13] <gogeta> hi i cant get vbox to use a real partation
[03:13] <gogeta> it crashes
[03:14] <usser> Roasted, take a look at /etc/samba/smb.conf there's a default share called [Homes] setup there
[03:14] <hoonteke> gogeta: what are you virtualizing?
[03:14] <phaidonx> Lint: no it's not... nothing is upgradable either ..
[03:14] <Ozzah> Knuthy: yeah, this is what I had before... I just tried it, it's returning all subdirectories of all subdirectories... I only want it to run in 1 sub level of ., no sub-sub levels etc
[03:14] <gogeta> hoonteke: xp pro
[03:14] <Roasted> usser - Yeah, I did notice that, but I didnt use it before because of the fact I had the other 3 users sharing out on a different hard drive.
[03:14] <hoonteke> gogeta: make sure you've enabled ... hold on
[03:14] <boblawblah> can someone help me find a gigabit nic that will work with ubuntu? link to new egg gigabit nics tiny.cc/ZJ4TQ
[03:14] <Knuthy> Ozzah: use maxdepth
[03:14] <boknoy> hi guys how to disable changing wallpaper?
[03:14] <Knuthy> Ozzah: -maxdepth 1
[03:14] <mattgyver> losha, funny, a user even writes this issue only happens when VNC server is configured as a service, which is what ive done
[03:15] <Roasted> usser - I suppose using "homes" with samba is the way to go if you have a HUGE network though, with a lot of users. That way you only have 1 entry of homes and it auto-links each user to their cooresponding home directory.
[03:15] <Lint> phaidonx, strange, it worked for me some time ago... do you see a new repository in 'Software Sources'?
[03:15] <boknoy> nautilus btw
[03:15] <gogeta> hoonteke: i ran the vdmk to point to dev/sdb it said that was good but vbox will not use the hdd crashes when finding it
[03:15] <crafmatik> i wish there was a way to make xchat prettier.
[03:15] <mMezquitale> a fresh install of hardy freezes after I log in.  I login and I see the mouse pointer but nothing else happens, I'm seeing a blue screen and the machine is completely frozen
[03:15] <Roasted> usser - whereas I currently have, pam - /media/storage/pam, curt - /media/storage/curt, tyler - /media/storage/tyler, etc. But I only have 3 so its not a headache :P
[03:15] <Ozzah> Knuthy: and 1 last question about find... how do I match the directories with a regex? for example, I need to match something like run??-*
[03:15] <hoonteke> gogeta: In VBox, I think it's Settings->Motherboard->Enable IO APIC
[03:15] <ZykoticK9> gogeta, i'd recommend asking in #vbox instead of #ubuntu
[03:15] <losha> mattgyver: that would explain why I've never seen it in decades of vnc use...
[03:15] <Knuthy> Ozzah: -name , or -iname
[03:15] <hoonteke> gogeta: crashes, or just doesn't boot the VM?
[03:15] <mattgyver> losha, yeah, its really wierd and annoying.  Especially when your in the middle of something important
[03:15] <gogeta> vmcrash
[03:15] <usser> Roasted, well, with samba you usually set it up as a domain controller, and it stores all usernames and their homes on the samba servers
[03:16] <usser> *samba server
[03:16] <Ward012> hi
[03:16] <losha> mattgyver: looks like this bug's been there for a while. Can you work around it?
[03:16] <Roasted> usser - yeah. I've never set up samba as a domain controller. I just used samba so the windows boxes at home could network to my ubuntu box. Then I tossed in a pair of 250gb hard drives for those users to use as backup space. So I kinda used old HDDs + my pc + samba to be a NAS.
[03:16] <Ozzah> Knuthy: it keeps saying "find: paths must precede expression"
[03:16] <gogeta> hoonteke: xp installer gets to scanning hd then vbox has crashed
[03:17] <nasser> !release
[03:17] <gogeta> vm hulted
[03:17] <Knuthy> Ozzah: what did you type?
[03:17] <mattgyver> losha, well if restarting the box via ssh is a work around then yes :)
[03:17] <boknoy> any idea on how to disable changing the wallpaper of nautilus?
[03:17] <hoonteke> gogeta: if vbox is actually crashing, then I don't know.  If ti's just halting, and not booting XP further, then I think enabling IO APIC will fix the issue.
[03:17] <usser> Roasted, yea its perfectly reasonable for a small sized network, thats pretty much the setup i have here
[03:17] <Ozzah> Knuthy: I'm not running the executable yet, just testing the find... I ran: find . -name run??-* -type d -maxdepth 1
[03:17] <losha> mattgyver: well, I was thinking more not running it as a service (not sure what that means. You mean it starts from xinetd?)
[03:18] <Knuthy> Ozzah: put the regexp (of the name) between " "
[03:18] <mattgyver> losha, yes
[03:18] <mattgyver> losha, it allows me to login from the GDM
[03:18] <lekremyelsew> hey everybody
[03:18] <Ozzah> Knuthy: brilliant :) Thanks :)
[03:18] <Knuthy> Ozzah: you can also replace the -maxdepth by a -d
[03:18] <gogeta> all idel in vbox lol
[03:18] <phaidonx> Lint: argh, stupid me ... I added ppa.launchpad instead of the actual karmic main. Thanks!
[03:18] <Knuthy> yw
[03:19] <boknoy> no ideas on disabling wallpaper change with nautilus?
[03:19] <losha> mattgyver: what about a kludgy workaround, e.g. can you ssh in and start x11vncserver by hand
[03:19] <Knuthy> does anyone know when the 190.42 nvidia driver will be fully supported on the 9.10?
[03:19] <mattgyver> Yeah but, honestly its hit or miss with the sticky key
[03:19] <Ozzah> Is there any easy way to replace all instances of a string in a text file with another string from the command line?
[03:19] <phibxr> Knuthy, what do you mean with fully supported?
[03:19] <Knuthy> Ozzah: sed command
[03:19] <mattgyver> losha, id be more apt to figure out how to, i dont know if its possible, but disconnect the keyboard and reconnect it somehow
[03:20] <mattgyver> via ssh
[03:20] <Knuthy> phibxr: avaible in the package manager, and no black screen after install :)
[03:20] <phibxr> Knuthy, I grabbed it from Nvidias site, ran the installer and had it working out of the box after a fresh install. :)
[03:20] <boknoy> or at least disabling changing the background assigned by kdesktop/plasma/xfdesktop or feh?
[03:20] <usser> Ozzah, sed -e 's/hello/bye/g'
[03:20] <losha> mattgyver: the postings said something about a newer server version being fixed? Maybe you need to download and build the latest server and use it instead?
[03:20] <Knuthy> phibxr: I've a GT 230M , only supported from the 190.42 driver, not earlier drivers
[03:20] <Knuthy> and it's not working with it :/
[03:21] <lekremyelsew> Where is the file that contains Nvidia graphics card settings?
[03:21] <Ozzah> ls
[03:21] <mattgyver> losha, ill have to do that.  I also read that there is a key fix or soemthing, some option you can run it with
[03:21] <Ozzah> (sorry)
[03:21] <mattgyver> i might be able to do that too
[03:21] <[1]Void> just installed jaunty, having problems installing drivers for an atheros wifi card, ar242x chipset, tried many drivers including ath5k, madwifi, ndiswrapper all of which result in connectivity however VERY slow/timeouts.. wired is fullspeed 100mbit working with no problems. is there anything else i can do?
[03:21] <phibxr> Knuthy, I'm using the 190.42 drivers, but since it's a development version (I think?) I doubt it will be included in the official repositories for a while.
[03:21] <usser> Ozzah, ie cat filename | sed -e 's/<string>/<otherstring>/g'
[03:21] <Knuthy> oh :(
[03:21] <nick> i downloaded something that i have to compile. i have build-essential installed, but ./configure is not working ? what can be the problem?
[03:22] <uvacav> anyone know if are any custom themes for the new login page? (im assuming you cant use old gdm themes)
[03:22] <mattgyver> losha, well back to the grind, thanks for your suggestions man, your the man
[03:22] <mattgyver> (or woman)
[03:22] <ZykoticK9> nick, could you pastbin the output/error(s)?
[03:22] <Ward012> Could someone please help? Everytime I use xvideo output it screws up the display in nautilus. Now i can't use cheese or totem.
[03:22] <x4556> anyone know where the rhythm box database is stored. cant find it in .gnome
[03:22] <rance> can somebody private chat me if u know python
[03:22] <losha> mattgyver: :-)
[03:22] <nick> ZykoticK9: ./configure: No such file or directory
[03:23] <MorkBork> when does update-manager -d start giving you the final version of karmic?
[03:23] <Knuthy> usser: you should use directly the file name at the end of the sed, to replace inside the file
[03:23] <ZykoticK9> nick, perhaps it doesn't need a ./configure?  what program is it?
[03:23] <CPrgmSwR2> Does anyone here have a hp pravillion
[03:23] <gogeta> ah there sayin downgrade
[03:23] <gogeta> guess its a bug
[03:23] <nick> ZykoticK9: qtractor, and it does. compiles well on mac os x.
[03:24] <kisuke> does any one know how to get youtube to work on totem
[03:24] <usser> Knuthy, yea i know i just didnt want him to accidently screw something up in the file
[03:24] <Lad> I just installed Ubuntu 9.04 on my desktop on the second harddrive and im going to be dropping vista and going to ubuntu i was curious why when i boot it up after the install i can get wired internet but when i am in windows it works, Im not sure where to begin any help?
[03:24] <usser> Knuthy, so i suggested a dry run
[03:24] <Knuthy> ok :)
[03:24] <Knuthy> I see ^^, sry
[03:25] <CPrgmSwR2> Lad: are you saying there  your wireless internet is not working?
[03:25] <ZykoticK9> nick, did you cd into the directory first?  ./configure works for me -- until it errors out on "/lib/cpp fails sanity check"
[03:25] <Lad> CPrgmSwR2: sorry cant get wired internet
[03:25] <x4556> anyone know where the rhythm box database is stored. cant find it in .gnome
[03:25] <MorkBork> in ubuntu type lspci
[03:25] <MorkBork> see what kind of nic you have
[03:25] <Barridus> !ubuntuone
[03:26] <nick> ZykoticK9: i have the svn version. you probably need build-essential. thats why its giving that error for you
[03:26] <Ward012> kisuke: It might be possible if you use the xine version of totem and maybea plugin
[03:26] <hoonteke> x4556: look in ~/.local/, I think.
[03:27] <ZykoticK9> nick, you're right!  i don't have build-essential - shame on me, guess i haven't had to compile anything in a long time
[03:27] <x4556> hoonteke, yep, thanks
[03:27] <CPrgmSwR2> Lad: In other words you are not able to access the internet
[03:27] <Lad> CPrgmSwR2: correct :D
[03:27] <Dheyde> orry what the discussion about ?
[03:27] <Ward012> bye everyone
[03:27] <hafiz> hi
[03:27] <CPrgmSwR2> Lad: What computer do you have
[03:28] <[1]Void> any atheros driver experts out there?
[03:28] <luigi> just a question: tune2f work in EXT4 to?
[03:28] <usser> luigi, latest versions of it, starting from jaunty
[03:28] <Lad> CPrgmSwR2: nVidia 680i LT SLI, q6600, 2gb ram, 500gb sata, 8800gt
[03:28] <losha> luigi: tune2fs: apparently it does...
[03:29] <luigi> losha, i'm triyng to remove a lot of space of reserved block in a new HD but it seem doesn't work!
[03:29] <BlacKnight> btw, i have a ntfs drive with 86 bad sectors... if I formate it with linux, they will dissapear? at least the warning ?
[03:29] <CPrgmSwR2> Lad: can you boot up into linux and run lspci?
[03:30] <Lad> I can however i will lose connection here
[03:30] <ZykoticK9> nick, so now it's getting to Qt 4.1 required and i'm not installing KDE to continue testing.  I'd try the source download though if svn still isn't working for ya.  best of luck.
[03:30] <Lad> CPrgmSwR2: I can however i will lose connection here
[03:30] <mickster04> BlacKnight, from what i know bad sectors mean damaged hard drive no?
[03:30] <CPrgmSwR2> Lad: I am wanting to know what your ethernet controller is
[03:31] <BlacKnight> ya, those places in the harddrive that you cant use because they are damaged
[03:31] <losha> luigi: is that an ext4 feature?
[03:31] <BlacKnight> thanks to windows lol
[03:31] <Lad> CPrgmSwR2: if you can wait about 5 minutes i will return with the output, are there any other steps i should take at this time?
[03:31] <luigi> losha,  sudo tune2fs -m 1 /dev/sdd2 do you think this is the rigth sintax?
[03:31] <mickster04> BlacKnight, then i suggest yu replace it
[03:31] <mickster04> BlacKnight, then i suggest you replace it*
[03:31] <BlacKnight> i'm backing up files atm, but i wanted to know if it worth to format it
[03:31] <jeffrey17> Gentoooo
[03:31] <jeffrey17> :)
[03:31] <CPrgmSwR2> not until we figure out what kinda ethernet hardware you have
[03:32] <Lad> ok
[03:32] <luigi> losha, i hope!!! otherwise i had come back in ext3! :)
[03:32] <mickster04> BlackFate, seeing as the sectors are damaged it usually means the HDD's failing so theres little point
[03:32] <losha> luigi: the syntax looks right. Is there an error message?
[03:32] <mgmuscari1> is there some way that i can revert my system back to the state it was in a week ago?
[03:32] <mgmuscari1> roll back all the updates that have been pushed out since then
[03:32] <CPrgmSwR2> jeffrey17: are you a gentoo fan
[03:33] <BlacKnight> Blacknight* xD
[03:33] <jeffrey17> ;)
[03:33] <mgmuscari1> somebody broke iwlagn
[03:33] <luigi> losha, not at all.. nay message! but rescanning my device they have the same space reserved! 11GB in reserved space it's terrible!
[03:33] <BlacKnight> well, i been using that hdd since january with those bad sectors
[03:33] <mgmuscari1> and it got pushed out with 9.04 updates
[03:33] <BlacKnight> windows runs really slow, but under windows it works good
[03:33] <BlacKnight> under linux*
[03:33] <losha> luigi: well, 5% reserved is normal...
[03:33] <ABoba> will we be able to zsync the RC1 iso to full 9.10 at launch?
[03:33] <zozozi> oh wow a 12MB iso ... perfect
[03:33] <mickster04> BlacKnight, good point:P
[03:34] <mickster04> BlacKnight, well i wouldnt trust it with anything
[03:34] <x4556> is 9.10 released?
[03:34] <mickster04> !karmic
[03:34] <luigi> losha, i have just data in this HD... i wish use all the HD...
[03:34] <BlacKnight> wa, my linux drive is 40gb... the damaged drive is 500 gb!
[03:34] <CPrgmSwR2> I lost sound on karmic kolla
[03:35] <BlacKnight> i'll use it and risk all the new data kthx :p
[03:35] <losha> luigi: I understand. I don't know why it doesn't work. I've never used it myself...
[03:35] <luigi> losha, thx anyway!!
[03:36] <kn1000> how can i check a programs dependancies that arent preinstalled on ubuntu
[03:36] <luigi> usser, have you any idea about tune2f?
[03:36] <Flannel> kn1000: synaptic lists dependencies, apt-cache show package will show them too
[03:36] <usser> luigi, what about it?
[03:36] <Ozzah> I'm trying to use sed to replace the a string match in a file with another, but the replacement text is in a variable $f - it's not replacing with the contents of $f as a variable, but rather with $f itself... any ideas?
[03:36] <kn1000> Flannel: yeah, but that lists ALL deps, i only want the deps that arent preinstalled with ubuntu
[03:37] <webbb821> hey what is everyones favorite online note taking apps
[03:37] <Flannel> kn1000: weed out those that are installed (you can list what's installed by dpkg -l)
[03:37] <kn1000> i remember there was a site for it, that asked you what metapackage you had, and then compared the packages installed with that metapackage to the deps the program needed
[03:37] <rance> does anybody know python-twitter the api for python
[03:37] <losha> Ozzah: it depends on the kind of quotes you use (I'm not making this up!). What is your command line?
[03:37] <Flannel> kn1000: Or, another really easy way to do it is to simulate an install.
[03:37] <luigi> it seem doesnt work.. sudo tune2fs -m 1 /dev/sdd2, any error message, but rescanning my HD i have always 11 GB in reserved space!
[03:37] <kn1000> Flannel: i am not on ubuntu :(
[03:37] <usser> webbb821, ssh to my home server, and put the note in the text file
[03:37] <usser> webbb821, :)
[03:37] <Roasted> Question - How can you change the sudo timer? Say I want to set up an Ubuntu lab but I don't want sudo rights to stick around 10 minutes after I put the PW in to do something. How would I change that?
[03:38] <kn1000> Flannel: its for wicd, since i cant connect to the net without it,
[03:38] <Flannel> kn1000:  http://apt.alturl.com/
[03:38] <Ozzah> losha: sed -i 's/999.999/$f/g' $r-$f/OBSERVATION.DAT
[03:38] <Flannel> kn1000: Package list for what's installed by default is available as the .manifest file for your desktop isos
[03:38] <kn1000> Flannel: thanks! been looking for that site all night
[03:38] <usser> Roasted, dont give the users sudo rights at all
[03:39] <usser> Roasted, create another user and remove him from the admin group
[03:39] <losha> Ozzah: use double quotes to get $f substituted: sed -i "s/999.999/$f/g" $r-$f/OBSERVATION.DAT
[03:39] <Ozzah> losha: Thanks :)
[03:39] <corden> guys how many hours lift before the release of 9.10?
[03:39] <losha> Ozzah: try it before you thank me :-)
[03:40] <Ozzah> losha: I already did, and it works great :)
[03:40] <losha> Ozzah: cool..
[03:40] <ZykoticK9> corden, it's not a set time -- feel free to ask in #ubuntu-release-party
[03:41] <Viggleik> where to download Ubuntu 9.10?  I need link :D <3
[03:41] <mgmuscari1> omg people...
[03:41] <ZykoticK9> corden, be sure to ask what time it comes "out" ;)
[03:41] <comp_> What's a good netbook?
[03:41] <comp_> I'm looking to buy a netbook
[03:42] <mgmuscari1> !isitout | Viggleik
[03:42] <corden> ZykoticK9, i believe that the release adte was based on uk not in us right?
[03:42] <losha> Roasted: check out -k and -K for sudo
[03:42] <corden> since it only 28 in us now
[03:43] <ZykoticK9> corden, it's isn't an established time - so it doesn't matter what time zone your in -- they just say the 29th
[03:43] <losha> ZykoticK9: whether it's ready or not...
[03:43] <sun`> it's status is 'coming soon'.
[03:43] <gogeta> lol
[03:43] <corden> ZykoticK9, oh boy :) cause it's 29 here in philippines :D
[03:43] <gogeta> you can cheat the system
[03:43] <gogeta> get beta upgrade
[03:43] <gogeta> lol
[03:44] <Viggleik> lol
[03:44] <crypto__> any teracopy alternative for ubuntu
[03:44] <crypto__> anyone??
[03:44] <crypto__> It would really be a lot of help if i can get a teracopy alternative for ubuntu
[03:44] <Roasted> usser - I'm just thinking out loud here with that idea. What if I'm in a huge network environment where users log in with domain accounts from openLDAP or whatever. So there's not any local accounts, just domain accounts taht can access the machine. How would I remove them from sudoers group?
[03:45] <spider> Quick question-- i have both ubuntu and vista. I want to remove ubuntu (temporarily) so i'll delete it's partition. Will this cause the grub menu getting confused and not letting me boot? If so, what's a good way to approach this?
[03:45] <kisuke> does any one know how to get the youtube function in totem working i search and then start something and get "unspecified gstreamer error"
[03:45] <crypto__> any teracopy alternative for ubuntu
[03:45] <gogeta> god what was that trygger
[03:45] <gogeta> trigger
[03:45] <mgmuscari1> spider: as long as grub doesn't reside on the same partition (i.e. you have a separate partition for /boot), it'll just fail when you try to use the ubuntu boot option
[03:46] <spider> mgmuscari1: im not sure if that's the case -- how can i check?
[03:46] <gogeta> spider: thers a grublive cd that can restore the windows boot as well as the windows cd itsself
[03:46] <usser> Roasted, accounts from domain are not added to any local group by default, at least not when i tried it with active directory here, ie any domain group memberships are not mapped locally, domain admins are not local admins
[03:46] <Flannel> spider: You'll want to reinstall the vista bootloader first
[03:46] <Roasted> usser - ah okay, so by default its already doing the job I want.
[03:46] <usser> Roasted, are you using domain?
[03:46] <mgmuscari1> spider: run the command 'mount'
[03:47] <Roasted> usser - not at home. It was just a "what if I ran Ubuntu at work" thought
[03:47] <Roasted> usser - I work for a large school district, so at work we have a domain and all of that garbage.
[03:47] <usser> Roasted, kudos to  you, i work in a similar environment :)
[03:47] <spider> mgmuscari1: OK-- what should i look for in the output?
[03:47] <losha> crypto__: I mostly use rsync for copying. Occasionally dump/restore for entire filesystems...
[03:47] <mgmuscari1>  /boot on a separate partition
[03:48] <Roasted> usser - do you guys have any linux labs there?
[03:49] <gogeta> Roasted: best way to get around all secrty is a vpg
[03:49] <gogeta> vpn
[03:49] <usser> Roasted, even though the groups are not mapped automatically, you can still refer to them once the machine was joined to the domain. ie you can add <domain>/Domain Admins in your /etc/sudoers and assign whatever permissions you want to it, sudo is pretty flexible
[03:49] <Roasted> usser - yeah. I understand.
[03:49] <spider> mgmuscari1: hmm.. i don't see "boot" anywhere there.
[03:49] <crypto__> hello hello hello
[03:49] <Roasted> hey usser - gonna fire another question at you here
[03:49] <crypto__> Is there anybody in there
[03:49] <Lad> Who was assisting me with my network issue and had me run lspci?
[03:50] <crypto__> just nod if you can hear me
[03:50] <rance> nod
[03:50] <crypto__> is there anyone home
[03:50] <usser> Roasted, i started deploying a couple of machines for a specific purpose, kiosk stations. the machines are joined to the domain(for dns resolution to work properly) but i didnt need user authentication
[03:50] <Caliginous> is there a recommended pdf viewer?
[03:50] <rance> NOD NOD NOD
[03:50] <crypto__> oh
[03:50] <usser> Roasted, so far we have 30 linux stations
[03:50] <rance> *nod
[03:50] <crypto__> so u can help me now
[03:50] <rance> lol yeah
[03:50] <crypto__> do u know a tera copy alternative for ubuntu
[03:50] <rance> a wha....
[03:50] <crypto__> a client for copy pasting
[03:50] <usser> Roasted, sure fire away
[03:50] <losha> crypto__: There isn't one: I mostly use rsync for copying. Occasionally dump/restore for entire filesystems...
[03:51] <rance> o no lol
[03:51] <Roasted> usser - I'm playing with a 2nd samba file server I have here. I put in two 80gb drives and added them to fstab. They mount fine. As a test, I disconnected one of the 80gb drives and booted to see if I'd get an error when I booted up since the one 80gb drive wouldn't be present. I was trying to duplicate a problem I had before on another machine, that errored out when Ubuntu booted up and required me to hit CONTROL D to bypass and log
[03:51] <Roasted>  in, acknowledging I saw the terminal looking error.
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[03:51] <mageos> Good evening all.  I have an email question on Ubuntu Server.  I am sure there is an easy answer, I just don't know where to begin.
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[03:51] <CPrgmSwR2> Lad: are you back
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[03:51] <Roasted> usser - But I think my error when was a bad SATA Cable, cause I did swap it out and never got it again. Well, anyway, I just booted this 2nd machine up with ONE of the two drives disconnected, but BOTH did not mount. Why is that?
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[03:51] <techryan> Wtf?
[03:52] <Flynsarmy> lol you'd think they'd speak in english considering its an english channel
[03:52] <rsteam> What's English?
[03:52] <rsteam> Haha.
[03:52] <thedude42> Roasted, do you use the uuid's in /etc/fstab or are you using /dev/sdXXX for the devices?
[03:53] <Roasted> thedude42 - UUID
[03:53] <spaztik> anyone know of a good real time effects for doing like funny voices or echos?
[03:53] <Roasted> thedude42, usser - more or less I have two IDE 80gb drives on 1 IDE cable - the slave one being disconnected. If both are present, fstab mounts both. If 1 is present, it doesnt mount any.
[03:53] <Lad> Where can i look for wireless USB card drivers?
[03:53] <ScottG> Is there a way to modify file system metadata on files?
[03:53] <thedude42> Roasted, have you gone through dmesg after booting to see if there is any reference to mounting either drive?
[03:53] <Roasted> thedude42, usser - I guess I'm just asking - why?
[03:53] <Roasted> thedude42 - I have not, let me check it quick
[03:53] <usser> spaztik, just use pulseaudio, you'll get a whole bunch of effect right out the box, crackling,stuttering you name it
[03:54] <almoxarife> Lad: look in the package manager
[03:54] <thedude42> Roasted, do these happen to be western digital drives?
[03:54] <mageos> I have an ubuntu server that I would like to configure to send mail.  I already have another server that is handling the mail for the domain, but I would like services that send emails to be able to route email through my current mail server.  I thought about using postfix, but that may be overkill. Any suggestions?
[03:54] <usser> Roasted, could be your bios not detecting the other drive, maybe you have some fancy cable select going on there
[03:54] <Roasted> thedude42 - one is, one is seagate one is western digital
[03:54] <usser> Roasted, ie when one drive is unplugged the other is not detected
[03:55] <losha> Roasted: also, some crazy drives need a 'master without slave' setting...
[03:55] <spider> gogeta: grublive cd?
[03:55] <usser> Roasted, yea what losha said
[03:55] <Roasted> losha - let me make SURE what my jumper settings are quick. I thought I was CS on both tho.
[03:55] <spaztik> usser, hmm. i wasn't looking for a sound server per say
[03:55] <thedude42> Roasted, for western digital IDE drives, if it is single drive on an ide cable you have to have either cable select or NO JUMBER
[03:55] <gogeta> spider: supergrub its called
[03:55] <spaztik> usser, i wanted something more stand alone :S
[03:55] <Caliginous> hello>?
[03:55] <Roasted> thedude42 - the WD drive is actually the disconnected one in this case, leaving the seagate by itself.
[03:55] <rance> hey
[03:55] <usser> spaztik, i was joking, sorry
[03:55] <Caliginous> is there a nice pdf viewer?
[03:55] <usser> Caliginous, evince, okular, xpdf
[03:55] <gogeta> spider: it can fix both grub and windows mbr
[03:56] <Caliginous> thanks
[03:56] <Caliginous> chm?
[03:56] <thedude42> Roasted, check to see if the seagate has something similar.... I personally hate seagate ATA drives and have had complete unreliability as the halmark of my seagate ATA experience
[03:56] <ZykoticK9> Caliginous, acroread (adobe's pdf viewer) is available if you have the ?partner repo enabled
[03:56] <jhass840> 5 minutes!
[03:56] <zedster> I have a share on my win7 box that does not need a pw, yet when I try to open if from ubuntu a pw dialogue opens, anyone know what I can do to fix this? It was working fine untill I ran a update on windows
[03:56] <Caliginous> ZykoticK9: i;ll grab it view package mgr maybe it will enable whatever is needwed
[03:57] <losha> Roasted: I've also had odd experiences with cables. If you have a spare cable, it's worth trying...
[03:57] <gogeta> zedster: leave the pw empty
[03:57] <Brando753> guys is there a Visual (in the sense i can design a GUI then input code into it by clicking the buttons that will execute something) Programing tool for ubuntu (DONT SAY GAMBAS it dosent work)
[03:57] <zedster> gogeta: it won't let me hit ok
[03:57] <spider> gogeta: OK so this means that i can go ahead and remove ubuntu partition, and when i can't boot use the grub live cd (http://www.supergrubdisk.org/index.php?pid=5 ) ? and it'll be straighforward as to what to do then?
[03:57] <thedude42> Brando753, what do you mean by 'programming tool'?
[03:58] <Roasted> losha, usser, thedude42 - Its not a problem at all. I just happened to notice it when trying to duplicate another issue I ran into and noticed it. I wasnt sure if it was a cable/jumper thing or an Ubuntu/fstab thing.
[03:58] <zedster> gogeta: correction, I get nothing
[03:58] <Wele> I have ubuntu 9.01 installed in my laptop, it was working fine , but 2 days ago the xserver stopped working (I just see a small circle blipping)Could anyone help me fix this  ?
[03:58] <zedster> I even try my win pws
[03:58] <Caliginous> apt-get could not find acroread
[03:58] <zedster> its a media center so I leave it open for the local network
[03:58] <gogeta> spider: its pretty straght forward
[03:58] <kevdog> Caliginous: Do you have all the repositories enabled?
[03:59] <gogeta> spider: i would use the grub cd first
[03:59] <Roasted> losha, usser, thedude42 - whcih brings me to another question. Once on my PC I had booted up and been prompted with an old, full screen terminal with a bunch of garbage about fstab and requiring me to hit CONTROL D to bypass it and log in. I later found out I had a bad SATA cable. But I thought it was telling me when logging in that a drive in fstab was not present when I booted Ubuntu. If a drive is not present that is in fstab, are
[03:59] <Roasted>  you supposed to get any errors, or does it simply just not attempt mounting?
[03:59] <Caliginous> kevdog: unsure let me check via the syntaptic pkg mgr
[03:59] <gogeta> spider: remove the mbr then use the ubuntu live cd to remove the partation
[03:59] <thedude42> Roasted, fstab is going to attempt to mount with the parameters it sees.... so if you have a /dev/sdXXX or UUID=xxxxxx as the device, and that device isn't present when fstab is read, then the device simply does not get mounted
[03:59] <polarbear> how much longer until karmic!!! :P
[03:59] <kevdog> Caliginous: or just open up and look at /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:59] <Roasted> thedude42 - but it doesnt bombard you with any errors, right
[03:59] <spider> gogeta: what will happen if i use it first? will it be able to boot?
[03:59] <Caliginous> k
[04:00] <gogeta> spider: pretty easy slect the start with help then slect windows and fix windows boot
[04:00] <usser> Roasted, yes it will report errors, but it wont stop the boot process, unless its unrecoverabe, ie cannot mount / filesystem of something similar
[04:00] <ubuntu_> when does 9.10 come out
[04:00] <Roasted> thedude42 - I'm just trying to figure out if the bad SATA cable was why I got that error before. I thought it was casue fstab didnt detect one of my drives.
[04:00] <Wele> I have ubuntu 9.01 installed in my laptop, it was working fine , but 2 days ago the xserver stopped working (I just see a small circle blipping)Could anyone help me fix this  ?
[04:00] <thedude42> Roasted, it will show an error in some cases, depending on what went wrong
[04:00] <Caliginous> nopers I dont!!!
[04:00] <polarbear> ubuntu_: comes out today. i dunno what time tho :/
[04:00] <Roasted> usser, thedude42, losha - BTW It was a jumper issue. I adjusted the jumper on the Seagate drive and now I have 1 drive mounted as expected.
[04:00] <losha> Roasted: I think I agree with thedude42. If you *fail* an fsck however, you'll end up in recovery mode requiring ctrl-D or a root login...
[04:00] <gogeta> spider: yea it should boot stragt into vista
[04:00] <ubuntu_> thats what i thought. i keep refreshing ubuntu.com
[04:01] <losha> Roasted: bah, hardware. Ruins your nails...
[04:01] <Caliginous> is it "sudo apt-get install AcroRead" ?
[04:01] <polarbear> the countdown image is now: Coming soon! instead of 1 day
[04:01] <spider> gogeta: alright so to make sure i understand: I use grubcd first and remove mbr. Then, it will only boot vista. AFter that i remove ubuntu partitions with ubuntu live cd and everything is easy after that.
[04:01] <Roasted> losha - is it possible that a routine fsck was attempted on my main drive and it failed due to a bad SATA cable? I was having mixed results booting too. Sometimes grub would error out. Other times I'd reboot and grub would boot Ubuntu fine. As I said, it was my SATA cable, but I'm just trying to learn what I can about what happened that day.
[04:01] <Latoid1> Здрасте. есть специалисты по sed&
[04:02] <gogeta> spider: once you remove ad resize your done lol
[04:02] <ZykoticK9> Caliginous, it's "sudo apt-get install acroread" - once you have the partner repo enabled
[04:02] <usser> !ru
[04:02] <Ed54> лол што?
[04:02] <gogeta> spider: sense i assume you whant the space for windows
[04:02] <Blergh> is there a designated ubuntu help channel?
[04:02] <lstarnes> Blergh: this is it
[04:02] <ZykoticK9> Blergh, you're in it :)
[04:02] <polarbear> the forums :P
[04:02] <Blergh> oh phew
[04:02] <losha> Roasted: yes, it's very possible a bad cable would ruin an fsck. If I were you, I would now check the SMART data for the drives and see if they look healthy...
[04:02] <Blergh> pfft forums
[04:03] <Blergh> maybe if I want to wait a week for an answer
[04:03] <spider> gogeta: ok but i got the grub stuff correct right? After doing this it'll only boot vista without any menu. Hehe, well i don't really think i will resize it because i'll do a fresh ubuntu install after all that.
[04:03] <dibs> can I switch my evelution for thunderbird in koala and ubuntu one's dialogue
[04:03] <Roasted> losha - how do I run SMART?
[04:03] <Caliginous> I do: /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:03] <Caliginous> deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu jaunty partner
[04:03] <Caliginous> deb-src http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu jaunty partner
[04:03] <Caliginous> but it ainb;t working
[04:03] <FloodBot2> Caliginous: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:03] <polarbear> forums you may wait like 1hr for an answer :P
[04:03] <gogeta> spider yep
[04:03] <zedster> yes geting the rtfm /|/008 in under 5 min is grand :-)
[04:03] <polarbear> how many more hours until karmic!!! :D :D :D
[04:04] <Blergh> may not be specifically ubuntu related, but I've just installed lighttpd and am wondering what the best option is to give users access to /var/www
[04:04] <Caliginous> still not finding mank
[04:04] <Blergh> make a user group and add the users?
[04:04] <gogeta> spider: you can leave leave the partation alone then if your gonna use it again
[04:04] <gogeta> spider: just format the partation when you reinstall
[04:04] <losha> Roasted: you need to install the smartmontools package. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S.M.A.R.T. then http://gsmartcontrol.berlios.de/home/index.php/en/About
[04:04] <Caliginous> maybe I should reboot?
[04:05] <Roasted> losha - are these brand dependent on certain hard drives? Cause I have 4 drives in my main rig that Im talking about - 2 WD, 2 Seagate
[04:05] <Latoid1> Hello. Are there any specialists in sed?
[04:05] <kevdog> Caliginous:  did you chankge your list??  If so sudo aptitude update
[04:05] <ZykoticK9> Caliginous, "sudo apt-get update"
[04:05] <armence> How can I add a specific directory to $PATH ? Specifically a bin directory in my home folder?
[04:05] <kevdog> Latvid1: I know basic sed
[04:05] <zedster> ok, I see two threads about the win7 share with ubuntu issues, but no answer and both are dead. Anyone know the fix?
[04:05] <ZykoticK9> armence, add it to .bashrc in your home folder
[04:05] <kevdog> armence: Do you want to do this once or at boot?
[04:06] <losha> Latoid1: ask anyway. You might get lucky...
[04:06] <chronos> hello all
[04:06] <armence> kevdog: Both
[04:06] <chronos> plz, how I can solve this, http://pastebin.com/m6d9a4ff7
[04:06] <Caliginous> :D
[04:06] <Legendario> I've downloaded the netbook remix iso from releases.ubuntu.com but I am having difficulty to write it on a usb drive. Isn't it supposed to be an img file?
[04:06] <Caliginous> teheheheheheeeeeeeeeee!
[04:06] <Caliginous> tanks manks!
[04:06] <spider> gogeta: So.... is it possible to just start installing with a new ubuntu live cd (9.10) and just tell it to replace my 8.10 and it won't have grub problems?
[04:06] <Latoid1> losha: and others: ok. wait a while please. i'll transalte my question in English
[04:06] <Wele> I have ubuntu 9.01 installed in my laptop, it was working fine , but 2 days ago the xserver stopped working (I just see a small circle blipping)Could anyone help me fix this  ?
[04:07] <armence> ZykoticK9, How? I mean where in that file?
[04:07] <tonyyarusso> Wele: There's no such thing as Ubuntu 9.01
[04:07] <gogeta> spider: yea just slect manul partating slect the old partation and check format it will whipe out 8.10
[04:07] <Wele> tonyyarusso::sorry 9.1
[04:07] <Caliginous> curious, why does ubuntu window mgr look like leopard?
[04:07] <ZykoticK9> armence, you might not have one by default?  but it's ~/.bashrc
[04:07] <spider> gogeta: got it, thanks!
[04:07] <tonyyarusso> Wele: 9.10 talk is still in #ubuntu+1
[04:07] <kevdog> armence:  Well to do it for the current command shell it would just be: export PATH=~/bin;$PATH
[04:08] <armence> ZykoticK9, Oh, yes, I opened the file, I'm just not sure where I should add what now that I opened it
[04:08] <Wele> tonyyarusso:oh yeah, it should be 9.04
[04:08] <gogeta> spider: and grub wont be installed sence your removing it it will install a new one at that time
[04:08] <tonyyarusso> Wele: :S
[04:09] <gogeta> spider: you will also be able to use format to and make it ext4
[04:09] <spider> gogeta: what does ext4 mean?
[04:09] <Flannel> armence: If ~/bin exists when you login, ~/bin should already be in your path
[04:09] <armence> kevdog: That replaced everything in the $PATH variable
[04:09] <gogeta> spider: its the newer filesystem
[04:09] <balla> which release server are people getting 9.10 off of? please PM me.
[04:09] <armence> Flannel: I just created ~/bin...
[04:09] <balla> which release server are people getting 9.10 off of? please PM me.
[04:09] <balla> which release server are people getting 9.10 off of? please PM me.
[04:09] <balla> which release server are people getting 9.10 off of? please PM me.
[04:09] <balla> which release server are people getting 9.10 off of? please PM me.
[04:09] <FloodBot2> balla: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:09] <gogeta> spider: older used ext3 by defult
[04:09]  * losha wonders why people do that?
[04:09] <spider> gogeta: ok so if i see an ext4 option i should go for it.
[04:10] <Flannel> armence: If you log out/back in, you'll have it in your path already
[04:10] <Blergh> never mind my question, I'll ask in #lighttpd
[04:10] <gogeta> spider: yea better perforance
[04:10] <lgc> Hi. Last time I was around here there were 1300 users on average. Business is growing allright!
[04:10] <kevdog> armence: export PATH=~/bin:${PATH}
[04:10] <crypto__> how can i make my TV tuner work with ubuntu
[04:10] <gogeta> spider: in 9.10 slect manual partating slect old partation and format to
[04:10] <crypto__> ??
[04:10] <armence> Flannel: Is there any way to just add it to the path for now so I don't have to log out? Also so I find out how to do it...
[04:10] <mediadata> hi all...
[04:10] <crypto__> any help on this
[04:11] <Dheyde> hs crypto
[04:11] <gogeta> spider: it will be a right click on the old paration
[04:11] <Flannel> armence: Yeah. PATH=~/bin:"${PATH}"
[04:11] <lgc> How can I track the speed of my connection to any given site? I mean the latency, not the bandwidth.
[04:11] <Blergh> balla: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/910overview
[04:11] <armence> OK, thanks
[04:11] <spider> gogeta: Alright. I understand. Thanks a lot!
[04:11] <bigfootbuilt> The Ubuntu website went from "1 day to go" to "coming soon". What's that supposed to mean?
[04:11] <armence> Flannel, kevdog: thanks
[04:11] <mediadata> why my jaunty can not ping with another pc with os windows ? eth2 is up, in 1 network
[04:11] <zedster> lgc: ping?
[04:11] <gogeta> spider: that will be a fresh install
[04:11] <Argos__> i want ubuntu today
[04:11] <Flannel> bigfootbuilt: Nothing.  It'll be out sometime within the next 32 hours
[04:11] <spider> gogeta: great.
[04:12] <gogeta> sipder if you dont get that option you can jusr delete it and make it ext4
[04:12] <bigfootbuilt> 32 hours?
[04:12] <gogeta> Argos__: get beta iso upgrade hehe cheat
[04:12] <Artemis3> pretty much done, typical mirroring period, but i still hate waiting for the torrents which should be released now.
[04:12] <tonyyarusso> bigfootbuilt: see topic
[04:12] <spider> gogeta: ok but if i'll do that, then i'll need to use supergrub since it'll break grub.
[04:12] <Argos__> have u been using ubuntu for ling gogeta
[04:13] <losha> mediadata: some windows systems don't respond to ping. Are you sure your does?
[04:13] <Wele> tonyyarusso: any suggestion for solving my problem ?
[04:13] <Latoid1> So, i need to edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:13] <Latoid1> need help in creating regulae expression for sed
[04:13] <Latoid1> conditions:
[04:13] <Latoid1> 1. do not edit strings with # at the begininig
[04:13] <Latoid1> 2. strings, that contains substrings "deb" или "deb-src" at the beginning and also
[04:13] <Latoid1> have "-updates" or "-backports" or "-security" or "-proposed" or
[04:13] <gogeta> spider: no a upgrade or even a frsh install will not brake grub
[04:13] <FloodBot2> Latoid1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:13] <tonyyarusso> Wele: no, sorry
[04:13] <gogeta> spider: the installer will make the changes to grub it needs
[04:13] <Flannel> Latoid1: What are you trying to edit?
[04:13] <lgc> zedster, thanks. I just tried ping which I unduly dismissed for its simplicity. It does the job in fact. However, there's some other command that tracks every hop the data has to make from origin to destiny. That's the one I'm interested on now.
[04:13] <mediadata> losha: yes, but ubuntu can ping it self ( 192.168.0.15 , win = 192.168.0.3, netmask 255.255.255.0
[04:13] <spider> gogeta: Ah, you meant to remove it while installing.
[04:14] <Artemis3> ouch, never use proposed unless you dont mind breaking your system :P
[04:14] <mediadata> losha: firewall is off in windows
[04:14] <gogeta> spider: but 9.10 uses grub 2 and if you have old gub it whont upgrade it it will still work however
[04:14] <artofchobo> any ideas why i got this error msg while compiling wireshark 1.0.4 " checking for pcap_open_live in -lpcap... no" cnofigure: error: Can't link with library libpcap.
[04:14] <artofchobo> thanks
[04:14] <SpiceMan> mediadata: but not in your router
[04:14] <Roasted> Question - Say there's a folder owned by root, and I just used sudo mv to move a file inside of that folder owned by root. Well, I still own the file and I want that file tot ake on permissions of root. Is there a command in terminal to just be like sudo acceptperms and the file I own then takes on permissions of the folder its in? (which is root)
[04:14] <mediadata> SpiceMan: i do not use a route
[04:14] <losha> mediadata: can you ping the other direction: from windows to ubuntu?
[04:15] <Flannel> artofchobo: Why not use the wireshark in the repositories?
[04:15] <mediadata> losha: can not too...
[04:15] <gogeta> spider: so if you whant the lastest of everything a total removel is nedded
[04:15] <andrew098> I have a problem: I installed xubuntu to 8 gig USB flash drive.   It boots, but refuses to update from the update manager. says "not enough free disk space"
[04:15] <artofchobo> flannel: it is missing some protocol like LLTD
[04:15] <artofchobo> flannet: that's why i do a recompilation
[04:15] <mediadata> losha: windows - switch - ubuntu
[04:15] <spider> gogeta: and a total remove would mean using supergrub and deleting partitions using ubuntu live?
[04:15] <losha> mediadata: then you have a network/switch problem, not a ubuntu or windows problem...
[04:15] <Latoid1> So, i need to edit /etc/apt/sources.list. need help in creating regulae expression for sed. conditions: 1. do not edit strings with # at the begininig 2. strings, that contains substrings "deb" или "deb-src" at the beginning and also have "-updates" or "-backports" or "-security" or "-proposed" or  "$NAME_OF_DISTR main" substrings, need to be replaced url's within them with  "http://mirror.vladlink.lan/ubuntu". sorry for my english
[04:15] <gogeta> spider: yea
[04:16] <oskr> hi guys
[04:16] <Wele> Question  : I have ubuntu 9.04 installed,it was working fine , but 2 days ago the xserver stopped working (I just see a small white circle blipping)Could anyone help me fix this  ?
[04:16] <Flannel> Latoid1: Just go to Software Properties and switch mirrors through that
[04:16] <mediadata> losha: i try with another pc win is ok but to ping ubuntu not reply
[04:16] <artofchobo> Flannel: any ideas?...
[04:16] <Dheyde> wale : try configure the X
[04:16] <andrew098> Private message me about my USB Xubuntu problem please
[04:16] <Flannel> artofchobo: You'll likely need the -dev files for pcap
[04:16] <polarbear> how many people are reloading the cdimage site for 9.10?? :P
[04:17] <Latoid1> Flannel: that is not decision for me. i am making some useful script
[04:17] <artofchobo> Flannel: I've ensured that libpcap-dev is installed
[04:17] <Stock_Trader> I just ordered the cd from shipit, although It didnt ask me if i wanted 32 or 64bit o.O
[04:17] <Wele> Dheyde:I tried  sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[04:17] <mediadata> losha: i mean, pc win ping pc win it's reply...
[04:17] <gogeta> Stock_Trader: i think there ending that program
[04:17] <spider> gogeta: ok i understand. thanks for the help, again. i gtg: bye.
[04:17] <Stock_Trader> shipit?
[04:18] <Wele> but upon restart it I got the same errro
[04:18] <gogeta> Stock_Trader: i think there only gicing them to new users now
[04:18] <gogeta> giving
[04:18] <Stock_Trader> i just ordered one successfully last night, but i wanted 64bit not 32bit, i wasnt given an option
[04:18] <Stock_Trader> im a new user
[04:18] <losha> mediadata: Maybe the config is wrong on the ubuntu system. What does 'sudo ifconfig -a' say?
[04:18] <mediadata> losha: wait a second...
[04:18] <polarbear> Stock_Trader: request another, or just download it
[04:18] <crypto__> Hello hello hello
[04:18] <Wele> tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg- but it did not fix my problem..
[04:18] <gogeta> Stock_Trader: and people who pass em out us old users cant get em anymore lol
[04:18] <crypto__> is there anybody in there
[04:19] <crypto__> just nod if you can hear me
[04:19] <losha> gogeta: how do they know if you're "new"?
[04:19] <andrew098> Question: can I resize xubuntu partitions on a USB flash installation ?
[04:19] <polarbear> *nods*
[04:19] <coordinador> hey!
[04:19] <crypto__> is there anyone home
[04:19] <Stock_Trader> ha, well downloading isnt an option for me, hence why i ordered it via shipit
[04:19] <gogeta> losha: probly can only use it 1 time now
[04:19] <crypto__> my TV tuner not working
[04:19] <crypto__> its integrated in my lappy
[04:19] <losha> gogeta: once per street address?
[04:19] <crypto__> Dv6 1161tx
[04:19] <gogeta> losha: probly the detials didnt get relesed
[04:20] <coordinador> i am in 9.04  installed on a SDHC 4gb card in my msi wind u100 :D it works perfect
[04:20] <gogeta> losha: they just said it was getting to expensiv
[04:20] <losha> gogeta: oh right. I think I saw something about it on slashdot...
[04:20] <gogeta> losha: they are selling em now for like 5$
[04:20] <zozozi> coordinator: is it fast?
[04:20] <mediadata> losha: http://paste.ubuntu.com/304019/
[04:21] <andrew098> Hey, does Ubuntu / Xubuntu 9.10  work OK for everyday use ?
[04:21] <vikasap> Can anyone tell me how do I keep my terminals active when I have done a remote login via ssh ? I am getting timed out and the terminal hangs
[04:21] <kevdog> vikasap: Use screen
[04:21] <gogeta> vikasap: god i forgot the command
[04:21] <obiwan_> hi, i mounted a smbfs and since then, ls'ing my home is really slow, even after disconnecting, how can i solve this without rebooting?
[04:21] <losha> crypto__: first, you need to look up the model number of the tv card and see if it's supported...
[04:22] <vikasap> kevdog: Ah I see. Thanks. Let me figure out how
[04:22] <mediadata> vikasap: try with screen
[04:22] <m1k3e> hey guys, has 9.10 been officially released yet?
[04:22] <kevdog> vikasap:  You might want to read a small introduction to screen -- but to start all you need to do is to type screen after you login in -- and there you go!
[04:22] <losha> mediadata: something is wrong. The eth2 should say RUNNING but it doesn't. Check the connection. Is there a light?
[04:23] <obiwan_> good quetsion m1k3e i'd really like to know i read in wikipedia today it's release date
[04:23] <gogeta> vikasap: thers another that keeps it open even if you logout
[04:23] <gogeta> vikasap: been so long i forgot
[04:23] <vikasap> gogeta: Really ? Whats that ?
[04:23] <mediadata> losha: yes, there is light on switch
[04:23] <vikasap> Thanks kevdog
[04:23] <obiwan_> ok it wasn't mounted it's ok now problem solved
[04:23] <gogeta> google hehe
[04:24] <mQQsh> how can I disable javascript in firefox on ubuntu?  There is no options under the tools tab
[04:24] <losha> gogeta: nohup? I haven't used that in years...
[04:24] <TenshiOfJapan> mQQsh, what about Edit tab, preferences?
[04:24] <kevdog> nQQsh: Noscript extension works for me!
[04:25] <losha> mediadata: what does Network Manager say about eth2?
[04:25] <gogeta> vikasap: ctrl d detaches the prosses and it will keep running
[04:25] <vikasap> gogeta: But that is just one program
[04:25] <gogeta> vikasap: ctrl a
[04:25] <vikasap> gogeta: You cant get the session back
[04:25] <gogeta> vikasap: screen -r
[04:25] <TenshiOfJapan> m1k3e, waiting for the release too :)
[04:25] <mediadata> losha: how i run Network Manager ?
[04:25] <mQQsh> tenshiofjapan: awesoem worked good thanks
[04:25] <gogeta> vikasap: will get it bac
[04:25] <mediadata> losha: i'm a beginner
[04:26] <kevdog> vikasap:  Yes screen -r  will resume the previous session
[04:26] <mediadata> losha: i use jaunty
[04:26] <gogeta> as in resume
[04:26] <lgc> Latoid1, I've not been able to come up with such a regexp for the time being. I'm half asleep now... but why don't you try #bash? The guys there have regexps quite fresh.
[04:26] <kevdog> gogeta: nohup??
[04:27] <Legendario> I've downloaded the netbook remix iso from releases.ubuntu.com but I am having difficulty to write it on a usb drive. Isn't it supposed to be an img file?
[04:27] <Latoid1> lgc: Thanks. i'll go there
[04:27] <losha> mediadata: I don't use jaunty or gnome, so I'm not sure. Isn't there an icon for the network in your top panel?
[04:27] <gogeta> vikasap: nohup app also works
[04:27] <tyler_d> how do I change the tty from a terminal?
[04:27] <gogeta> vikasap: that can do multi apps
[04:28] <mrb> Hello Guyz, what is the time expected of Ubuntu Release ?!!
[04:28] <vikasap> gogeta: But once you logout, how does the login program that you should be given the previous logged in session... Seems strange to me :)
[04:28] <mediadata> losha: i see with webmin still up
[04:28] <gogeta> vikasap: last if you forgot nohup disdown job -h jap/orpid
[04:28] <Flannel> mrb: Sometime within the next 32 hours
[04:28] <gogeta> job
[04:28] <kevdog> gogeta:  Do you start nohup at the command line when you execute the program?
[04:28] <losha> vikasap: consider using vnc instead. You can run a display with terminals in it, and reconnect to it any time you like...
[04:28] <ZykoticK9> Legendario, what is the name of the iso you downloaded?  I see ubuntu-9.04-netbook-remix-i386.img but no ISOs for UNR.
[04:28] <gogeta> vikasap: screen -r
[04:29] <gogeta> kevdog: yea nohup app
[04:29] <Bionicle> Why does Linux have to be so darn crappy and annoying?  I always get the same damn problems everytime I try Linux.   VIdeo works without the video drivers, but I want the video drivers.  All I get with the video drivers is 640x480 screen resolution.
[04:29] <mrb> So its not very soon !!
[04:29] <Bionicle> CAn anyone help?
[04:29] <vikasap> gogeta: yeah , I got that now. Thanks
[04:29] <kevdog> gogeta: No hang up -- well how do you kill it then?  With kill or killall?
[04:29] <lgc> Latoid1, you're welcome.
[04:29] <ZykoticK9> Bionicle, ATI?
[04:29] <gogeta> kevdog: i always did it that way
[04:30] <Legendario> ZykoticK9, http://releases.ubuntu.com/karmic/
[04:30] <gogeta> kevdog: just killed it
[04:30] <Bionicle> nvidia geforce fx 5200 compaq mv900 monitor.
[04:30] <LogicalDash> Bionicle, people are less likely to help you if you call their hobby 'crappy'.
[04:30] <losha> mediadata: I thought webmin is no longer supported?
[04:30] <tonyyarusso> losha: it's not
[04:30] <kevdog> gogeta:  Anyadvantage of nohup vs screen?
[04:30] <ZykoticK9> Legendario, sure enough - it's an ISO -- sorry I can't help you there.  Perhaps ask in #ubuntu+1 ?
[04:30] <gogeta> kevdog: been to long i think with screen i can do multi
[04:31] <gogeta> kevdog: havent sshed a server in forever
[04:31] <losha> gogeta: getting old...
[04:31] <kevdog> gogeta: I mean if you are using ssh and the connection dies, and you reconnect -- how do you resume the nohup application?  And yes screen can definitely do multiple sessions
[04:31] <tyler_d> how do I change the tty from a terminal?
[04:31] <Wele> Question  : I have ubuntu 9.04 installed,it was working fine , but 2 days ago the xserver stopped working (I just see a small white circle blipping)Could anyone help me fix this  ?
[04:31] <gogeta> kevdog: i beleve i switched to the pid
[04:32] <ZykoticK9> tyler_d, ctrl+alt (F1-F6) ?
[04:32] <gogeta> kevdog: im rusty come on
[04:32] <tyler_d> ZykoticK9: any other method?
[04:32] <kevdog> gogeta: How do you switch to the process ID?  Dust off the rust?
[04:32] <losha> mediadata: can you paste your /etc/network/interfaces file?
[04:32] <ZykoticK9> tyler_d, not that I'm aware of...
[04:32] <Tetsu_> Hey!Can I ask? When the Karmic final release will release?
[04:32] <Argos__> how come ubuntu is so much smoother then windows
[04:32] <Omlette> Tomorrow.
[04:33] <Bionicle> Linux is worse than WIndows.
[04:33] <Tetsu_> THanks
[04:33] <Wele> Question  : I have ubuntu 9.04 installed,it was working fine , but 2 days ago the xserver stopped working (I just see a small white circle blipping)Could anyone help me fix this  ?
[04:33] <ian_mac> Bionicle, what are you trying to accomplish from this conversation?
[04:33] <bigfootbuilt> Bionicle: Sounds like you already made up your mind.
[04:33] <kevdog> Bionicle is a TROLL!
[04:33] <Tetsu_> Can I use Tweak Ubuntu for Kubuntu?
[04:33] <Omlette> Then why are you here, Bionicle?
[04:33] <Legendario> ZykoticK9, what kind of channel is that?
[04:33] <kevdog> QUIT TROLLING!!!!
[04:33] <mediadata> losha: http://paste.ubuntu.com/304023/
[04:33] <gogeta> kevdog: lol ./
[04:33] <Bionicle> I am here becuase I am trying to get it working.
[04:34] <ZykoticK9> Legendario, #ubuntu+1 is (for today anyways) support for 9.10
[04:34] <Bionicle> I asked a question and no one is helping.
[04:34] <gogeta> kevdog i hate you now
[04:34] <ian_mac> well, somebody asked you what type of vide ocard you had, I didn't see you respond
[04:34] <Legendario> ZykoticK9, thanks
[04:34] <Name141> When will the ISO be out for er.. "Karmic" I guess is the realese coming today?
[04:34] <vikasap> gogeta: You did not answer kevdog . I am waiting :D
[04:34] <Omlette> This channel is really busy, Bionicle. You won't get an immediate response. Just try asking again.
[04:34] <ian_mac> and it may be that nobody really has an idea
[04:34] <bigfootbuilt> Bionicle: When you bash our little hobby here, it is less likely people will listen
[04:34] <Wele> Question  : I have ubuntu 9.04 installed,it was working fine , but 2 days ago the xserver stopped working (I just see a small white circle blipping)Could anyone help me fix this  ?
[04:34] <kevdog> gogeta:  Hate me because you are going to look it up :p
[04:34] <gogeta> kevdog: ./scrpitname
[04:34] <ian_mac> politeness goes a long way :)
[04:35] <Bionicle> Why does ubuntu never ork when I install the nvidia drivers is my question.
[04:35] <Bionicle> never work
[04:35] <kevdog> gogeta: What?  That's to run a script -- not to switch the pid
[04:35] <gogeta> kevdog: i havent been in text mode sence redhat 6
[04:35] <Wele> Question  : I have ubuntu 9.04 installed,it was working fine , but 2 days ago the xserver stopped working (I just see a small white circle blipping)Could anyone help me fix this  ?
[04:35] <Bionicle> It goes to 640x480 screen resolution on me.
[04:35] <kevdog> gogeta: Hey don't blame me -- you brought it up :)
[04:35] <realistik> Bionicle: What nVidia card do you have?
[04:35] <gh0zt_afk> kevdog: thanks for suggesting FreeNX the other day, i got it up and running and love it
[04:35] <ian_mac> unfortunately I don't use NVidia, can't help you
[04:36] <Tetsu_> Bionicle: You can report the issues to launchpad
[04:36] <Bionicle> I said that.  nvidia geforce fx 5200 with a compaq mv900 monitor
[04:36] <Argos__> hmm i  thought ubuntu is so much way better ..faster browsing etc
[04:36] <losha> mediadata: looks ok. ok, try: sudo ifconfig eth2 down; sudo ifconfig eth2 up and then see if it says RUNNING when you run sudo ifconfig -a
[04:36] <centHOGG> !handbrake
[04:36] <Tetsu_> I've met this issues before
[04:36] <kevdog> gh@zt_afk:Yea FreeNX is pretty good -- not totally reliable but soooo much better than VNC!
[04:36] <realistik> FX5200 doesn't have support
[04:36] <mediadata> losha: ok
[04:36] <gogeta> been way to long
[04:36] <Tetsu_> Just use old update for nvidia,dont use the newest
[04:36] <Bionicle> Why not realistik?
[04:36] <losha> kevdog: what does 'not totally reliable' mean? vnc is rock solid, if slow...
[04:36] <zedster1> anyone else have a win7 box with shared folders?
[04:36] <gogeta> kevdog: and no he asked how to keep a ssh sesion alive
[04:36] <vikasap> gogeta: Hardly a reason ;)
[04:36] <Bionicle> I use the 173 it recomends
[04:37] <soldats> Bionicle: find the logs for xserver and see where the errors are and see what they say, if at best try to google them to see if anything comes up. most likely someone has had the same problem and has solved it
[04:37] <mediadata> losha: eth2 still running
[04:37] <gogeta> kevdog: ill leave switch to pid to you
[04:37] <Bionicle> I am new to Linux.
[04:37] <losha> mediadata: but is it RUNNING according to ifconfig -a ?
[04:37] <kevdog> losha:  vnc is solid but SLOOOOOOOW -- FreeNX -- way faster but sometimes hangs up on me -- dont know why?
[04:37] <Tetsu_> soldats:Just send up to Launchpad for Canioncal
[04:37] <realistik> Bionicle: I dunno. There's supposedly an older nvidia driver that will work with an FX5200 but I was never able to get it working with mine
[04:37] <gogeta> kevdog: you can ./theappname
[04:37] <Bionicle> Well, sorta new.  I keep trying it, get the same bologny and wipe it out.
[04:37] <centHOGG> <AMD64 Kuma
[04:37] <gdb> Bionicle: Have you used this resource yet? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[04:37] <losha> kevdog: even tightvnc?
[04:37]  * vikasap is out
[04:38] <Wele> Question  : I have ubuntu 9.04 installed,it was working fine , but 2 days ago the xserver stopped working (I just see a small white circle blipping)Could anyone help me fix this  ?
[04:38] <mediadata> losha: yup... i check with sudo ifconfig -a, the eth2 is running
[04:38] <soldats> Tetsu_: what?
[04:38] <kevdog> losha:  At least for me -- all vncs are slow -- I like ultravnc but tight is ok.
[04:38] <Tetsu_> Wele: Just like Bionicle
[04:38] <gdb> Bionicle: Is that the 173 you're referring to?
[04:38] <mattgyver> Can you RDP into a VM running in Virtual box from an external location off the internal LAN?
[04:38] <gh0zt_> kevdog: my freenx has been up for two days now with no crash it resumes perfectly
[04:38] <zedster1> Wele: have you done a safe boot or just hit ctrl+alt+f1 and worked in termnal?
[04:38] <Bionicle> The nvidia driversion number I install is v173
[04:38] <Wele> Tetsu_: what shd I do  ?
[04:38] <kevdog> YOUR LUCKY!!! and I'm JEALOUS!
[04:39] <losha> mediadata: it wasn't RUNNING last time per http://paste.ubuntu.com/304019. Has its status changed?
[04:39] <Tetsu_> Safe boot and fix theme
[04:39] <gh0zt_> kevdog: i can't believe it isn't a standard package it's infinitely better than vnc
[04:39] <gdb> Bionicle: Have you applied those drivers according to this page? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[04:39] <zedster1> mattgyver: yes, but the router would have to know where to redirect it (aka nat)
[04:39] <Tetsu_> fix them
[04:39] <LordFDisk> Bionicle, try the package called  envyng-qt
[04:39] <Bionicle> Let me go look at that page.
[04:39] <kevdog> gh@zt:  What repository did you get your release from?
[04:39] <mattgyver> zedster1, I set that all up, and it works internally but im trying to get a buddy to remote in and it wont (im disconnected atm)
[04:39] <Argos__> they say that this  version of ubuntu is going to be faster and better
[04:39] <Bionicle> I installed the drivers with Hardware Drivers under system.
[04:39] <Wele> Tetsu_: Good answer , but can you let me know how  to?
[04:39] <losha> kevdog: I found NX impossible to configure. I have a non-standard ssh setup. Never did get it working...
[04:39] <mediadata> losha: yes, i changed my ip address
[04:39] <Bionicle> brb
[04:39] <losha> mediadata: can you ping now?
[04:39] <ShapeShifter499> when making a ssh key should I have a paraphrase or not?
[04:40] <kevdog> losha: How non standard?
[04:40] <gdb> Bionicle: I don't know, I'm just trying to start somewhere.
[04:40] <mediadata> losha: still can not ping ...
[04:40] <gdb> Bionicle: It looks like that page recommends what you did.
[04:40] <Tetsu_> Wele: :| Just at Grub Boot,press any key,and choose second line(Recovery mode)
[04:40] <losha> kevdog: not on port 22. Already have keys etc....
[04:40] <zedster1> mattgyver: again, its a router issue, make sure you are port directing external connections on those ports to internal ones and the computer has a static lease
[04:40] <losha> mediadata: sorry, I'm out of ideas then...
[04:40] <Wele> Yep I tried it, but no use. also I tried the following
[04:41] <Wele> sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[04:41] <Wele> sudo dpkg-reconfigure  gnome-desktop-data
[04:41] <Wele> sudo dpkg-reconfigure gnome-control-center
[04:41] <Wele> sudo dpkg-reconfigure gnome-menus
[04:41] <Wele> sudo dpkg-reconfigure  gnome-system-tools
[04:41] <Wele> sudo dpkg-reconfigure gnome-applets
[04:41] <Wele> sudo dpkg-reconfigure gnome-session
[04:41] <soldats> Wele: look in the xserver log file there is a code it says to do if anything goes wrong and it should bring it back to a workable system
[04:41] <mediadata> losha: ok, thank's for your attn...
[04:41] <FloodBot2> Wele: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:41] <kevdog> losha:  That's it?  It should work on any port and with your own keys also!!!
[04:41] <mattgyver> zedster1, it does, my machines address is 192.168.1.41, my vm is 10.0.2.15, the port forward is set to .41 is that what your speaking of?
[04:41] <EruditeHermit> hello, can anyone help me with my boot process? It is really slow and there are 2 things I don't understand from my bootchart at http://imagebin.org/69558 . Firstly, I don't have dmraid installed but it is getting called and secondly, .ck-setup takes up a lot of CPU for 10 seconds
[04:41] <gdb> The FX 5200 is listed as a supported card.
[04:41] <Tetsu_> just rm all settings on your ubuntu
[04:41] <soldats> Wele: do "sudo dpkg-reconfigire -phigh xserver-xorg"
[04:41] <zedster1> mattgyver: networking is not my strong suite but no, external:1234 -> internal:1234
[04:42] <losha> kevdog: maybe I should try it again. Am I the only one who found the instructions confusing? I never used to be so dim...
[04:42] <zedster1> ie, port redirect
[04:42] <Wele> soldats: I tried that
[04:42] <Argos__> when ubuntu 9.20 out
[04:42] <gh0zt_> kevdog: http://developer.berlios.de/project/showfiles.php?group_id=2978
[04:42] <zedster1> Argos__: never
[04:42] <Tetsu_> Wele:So,run in low-grapical!
[04:42] <Argos__> oopps 9.10
[04:42] <Wele> Tetsu_:: How do I remove all settings in my ubuntu  ?
[04:42] <gogeta> vikasap to do it by name its . ./
[04:42] <soldats> Wele: well do it without the "-phigh" other wise i cant help since i have to go. id be glad to help if i had more time
[04:42] <kevdog> losha: I wrote a tutorial a long time ago way back in Feisty for FreeNX but its outdated.  But at least at that time it could answer the questions on the problems you claim to be having
[04:42] <gh0zt_> kevdog: and i got the client from nomachines
[04:43] <zedster1> Argos__: :-), in a few hours
[04:43] <Argos__> about time
[04:43] <kevdog> gh@zt_:Is seaveas dead?
[04:43] <Wele> soldats : Let me give a try w/o phigjh
[04:43] <Tetsu_> Wele: Run in low-graphical(I think this is safe mode)
[04:43] <ian_mac> so...
[04:43] <George_E> Anyone know how 2 configure ubuntu for multiseat?
[04:43] <ian_mac> weird issue here....
[04:43] <losha> kevdog: maybe it's time to try it again. I'm feeling inspired...
[04:43] <chibihogoshino> is the final release of karmic any better than the beta is now ?
[04:43] <ian_mac> phpmyadmin stopped working
[04:44] <zedster1> George_E: multiseat?
[04:44] <soldats> seveass never dies!
[04:44] <zedster1> more then one user in the same computer?
[04:44] <gdb> Bionicle: This may be helpful as well - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[04:44] <ian_mac> I can't remove the package
[04:44] <ian_mac> I can't reconfigure the package
[04:44] <losha> chibihogoshino: great question. Probably should be asked in #ubuntu+1
[04:44] <ian_mac> I get an error like:
[04:44] <Bionicle> gdb, that is what I am reading right now.  Thank you
[04:44] <ian_mac> debconf: Unable to load Debconf::Element::Dialog. Failed because: Can't locate Debconf/Element/Dialog.pm
[04:44] <ian_mac> there's more...
[04:44] <ian_mac> but I don't want to flood...
[04:45] <gdb> Bionicle: Of course.  Video under Linux has always been a weak point.  Recent version of Xorg have been trying to solve this problem.
[04:45] <ian_mac> any ideas as to where to start?
[04:45] <Bionicle> I will install the drivers again and see if I can use that site to get it working.
[04:45] <gdb> Bionicle: At least that's been my experience, which goes back to 1994.
[04:45] <George_E> Its a feature that lets two sets of mice keyboards and monitors act as two seperate computers.
[04:45] <ian_mac> I can install and uninstall other packages
[04:45] <gogeta> kevdog: baa i forgot the extra .
[04:45] <Tetsu_> Wele: Your problem similar to Bionicle.Try these instruction
[04:45] <gogeta> kevdog: it would be . appp
[04:45] <gh0zt_> kevdog: saveas works for me
[04:46] <kevdog> gh@zt_: You mean seaveas repositories for the freenx client?  I thought that was dead?
[04:46] <gogeta> kevdog: making me look up that old school style heh
[04:46] <Tetsu_> ian_mac: Which package?
[04:46] <ian_mac> phpmyadmin
[04:46] <gdb> Bionicle: I completely understand your frustration. :-)
[04:46] <kevdog> gogeta: I knew you would have to do it!!1
[04:46] <gh0zt_> kevdog: never heard of it
[04:46] <Bionicle> Thank you.  I appologize for my bad  attitude.
[04:47] <Wele> soldats:Now upon restart I am getting the following erro: The panel encountered a problem whiole loading : OAFIID:GNOME_NotificationAreaApplet"
[04:47] <Tetsu_> ian_mac: I've never been met this problem!I cant resolve it!Sorry
[04:47] <gdb> Bionicle: We're all human. :)
[04:47] <ian_mac> yeah
[04:47] <gogeta> kevdog: i think . works on pid to
[04:47] <ian_mac> figured
[04:47] <ian_mac> man this sucks
[04:47] <ian_mac> okay
[04:47] <ian_mac> thanks guys
[04:47] <losha> soldats: I thought seveass stopped after 7.04
[04:47] <FloodBot2> ian_mac: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:47] <gogeta> kevdog: if i rember ny bash
[04:47] <zedster1> George_E: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultiseatX
[04:47] <Bionicle> Except for the video issues, I will say I do like Linux.  Especially KDE.
[04:47] <kevdog> gogeta: I'm definitely confused
[04:48] <gogeta> kevdog like  123
[04:48] <gogeta> .
[04:48] <losha> Bionicle: and the multimedia issues...
[04:48] <Bionicle> What multimedia issues?
[04:48] <Tetsu_> Wele:Just boot by liveCD,Permantly Delete all Setting Folders in your home folder
[04:48] <gogeta> kevdog should move the prosses the the foreround
[04:48] <Bionicle> I don't know how to do 5.1 surround in LInux, but sound works fine here.
[04:49] <Bionicle> Just the front speakers.
[04:49] <gogeta> kevdog: ctrl a works to
[04:49] <kevdog> gogeta: Ahh  yes now I remember that command whereas & moves it to the background
[04:49] <losha> Bionicle: making dvds, editing sound...
[04:49] <Bionicle> Ah.  I haven't tried that.
[04:49] <Bionicle> Editing sounds you can use Audacity
[04:49] <Bionicle> That I do.
[04:50] <Bionicle> Well, I did in WIndows.  Haven't tried Linux for that yet.
[04:50] <Wele> Tetsu_::trying it out, But I have some folders that I need, wont it be destroyed  ?
[04:50] <Tetsu_> to many things to do with Sound and DVD
[04:50] <zedster1> Bionicle: http://ubuntulinuxhelp.com/enable-51-surround-sound-on-linux-ubuntu-804-hardy/
[04:50] <losha> Bionicle: I've never found it stable, and ludicrously underfeatured compared to adobe audition (nee cooledit pro)
[04:50] <kevdog> losha: Here is an old tutorial I wrote way back in feisty for freenx -- it might help you but just remember that some of the things are likely not applicable
[04:50] <gogeta> kevdog: ctrl a and d make it easy being its detach and attach
[04:50] <Tetsu_> Just Ctrl+H,Delete .(name) folder
[04:51] <gdb> Bionicle: I've not tried it, but there's an Ubuntu version aimed at folks who work with multimedia - http://ubuntustudio.org/
[04:51] <Tetsu_> Wele:Back up your contents! Ctrl+H,Delete .(name) folder
[04:51] <losha> kevdog: er, was there a url?
[04:51] <lgc> Anything important on the new release or just 'cool' things?
[04:51] <Tetsu_> losha:Ubuntu Studio for Developer
[04:51] <kevdog_> losha: Shoot here it is: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-467219.html  Sorry
[04:52] <losha> kevdog_: cool, thanks...
[04:52] <gogeta> lgc: lots and lots of speed
[04:52] <Wele> Tetsu_ : I am booting it , I'll start pinging you for steps
[04:52] <zedster1> lgc: grub2, ext4 and some security stuff
[04:52] <kevdog_> losha: Just making sure you were paying attention
[04:53] <lgc> gogeta, zedster1, does ext4 provide the speed or the security?
[04:53] <losha> kevdog_: it's very cool. Not enough people write things...
[04:53] <gh0zt_> 2 hours to install 12MB minimal install ubuntu on qemu with vista host... that sucks a lot
[04:53] <Tetsu_> What's news in GRUB2?
[04:53] <zedster1> lgc: both
[04:53] <gogeta> losha: hey you where hear when i wrote that sh script for that guys network card lol
[04:54] <losha> gogeta: yes I was!
[04:55] <lgc> zedster1, I hope so. Of late, I've seen how my machine gets slower and slower. Could it be that I've made no fresh install since Dapper Drake, only upgrades?
[04:55] <gogeta> losha: he still uses it lol
[04:55] <LordFDisk> Bionicle,  Did you try the envyng-qt package ... it will find, and and show you what is compatible and recommends for AIT and Nvida Video Cards
[04:55] <zedster1> lgc: that could be part of, and that also means your hardware is old
[04:56] <gogeta> zedster1: hey old is fine
[04:56] <jhb1608> when I did apt-get update, I get this error: W: Failed to fetch http://deb.opera.com/opera/dists/stable/non-free/binary-i386/Packages  404 Not Found , E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[04:56] <corden> guys i have question regarding wubi install
[04:56] <gogeta> zedster1: hell a apple2 still has uses if your not gaming
[04:56] <LordFDisk> Bionicle,  It will even install it for you and then ask you to reboot
[04:56] <Tetsu_> Older work better then newer! Its my experiment
[04:56] <corden> does native and wubi install have the same hardware driver?
[04:56] <gogeta> zedster1: netooks kinda drove that point home
[04:56] <zedster1> gogeta: yes, but older can start to seem slow, specially if you use the ram tester/browser known as firefox
[04:57] <Tetsu_> corden: Yes
[04:57] <lgc> zedster1, 5 years young! But my lappy has plenty of punch, with 2GHz Centrino and 2GB memory. Alas it cannot accomodate another processor.
[04:57] <Tetsu_> corden: Its just diffent about the graphical
[04:57] <ShapeShifter499> g2g
[04:57] <Berzerker> lgc: centrino is a processor technology, not a model
[04:57] <ShapeShifter499> bye
[04:57] <zedster1> lgc: come on, I expect more from an ubuntu user, no such thing as a centrino cpu
[04:57] <gogeta> lgc: dell c610 1ghz 1gb ram 6 meg ati
[04:58] <lgc> zedster1, on the other hand, I would expect my machine to run faster with every new release, not the other way around.
[04:58] <spikebike> centrino is a marketing term for a platform
[04:58] <gogeta> lgc: 16mb ati sorry
[04:58] <corden> Tnx Tetsu_
[04:58] <Berzerker> centrino refers to Core technology + PROWifi model combinations
[04:58] <gh0zt_> does anyone have MSDN access that would download something for me plz?
[04:58] <Tetsu_> Berzerker right,Centrino is a technology
[04:58] <lgc> Berzerker, Zedde
[04:58] <JohnTeddy> If I open gedit and write up a page of ASCII, then my laptop freezes and I have to hard reboot. And I did not save.. I have all default ubuntu settings. Is my data stored on disk anywhere after the reboot?
[04:58] <gogeta> c610 is a p3 lol
[04:59] <Berzerker> gh0zt_: that would be against the rules of MSDN alliance access, so no.
[04:59] <res> can anybody help me with volume control problem in ubuntu jaunty?
[04:59] <Tetsu_> MSDN?for wats?
[04:59] <gogeta> its beat up old looks like crap
[04:59] <gogeta> still works
[04:59] <gh0zt_> Berzerker: rules?  what's rules
[04:59] <Tetsu_> Genuine
[04:59] <lgc> Berzerker, zedster1, gogeta, it's the 930, whatever. That's not my point.
[04:59] <Berzerker> having MSDN access is like having beta access to microsoft products
[04:59] <Berzerker> they're protected by NDAs.
[05:00] <gh0zt_> oh
[05:00] <gh0zt_> lame
[05:00] <gh0zt_> only Microsoft would do that
[05:00] <JohnTeddy> Anyone know about gedit?
[05:00] <Berzerker> actually, pretty much every company that has closed betas covers them with NDAs.
[05:00] <Tetsu_> gh0zt_ may be Apple too!
[05:00] <gh0zt_> except the file i need is 4 years old
[05:00] <jhb1608> lol...
[05:00] <gh0zt_> and superceded by 4 versions
[05:00] <Berzerker> Apple does that, Turbine does that, Bioware does that.
[05:01] <jhb1608> well microsoft and apple is lame
[05:01] <jhb1608> :)
[05:01] <res> Please help me with volume control problem.. It shows gstreamers sound plugin not installed
[05:01] <Tetsu_> try gstremers-2.0
[05:01] <jhb1608> gstreamers-2.0*
[05:01] <jhb1608> correction
[05:01] <res> Tetsu_: should I do sudo apt-get install gstreamers-2.0
[05:02] <jhb1608> yes
[05:02] <gogeta> gh0zt lol so go find it
[05:02] <res> jhb1608: thanks
[05:02] <Tetsu_> just sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras for extras install
[05:02] <gogeta> its the internet
[05:02] <spikebike> centrino used to be chipset+graphics + cpu+ wireless
[05:02] <spikebike> then they caved and allowed external graphics (but still mandated the chipset)
[05:02] <jhb1608> your welcome res
[05:03] <kevdog_> How come I cant ghost my username using xchat but I can with chatzilla?
[05:03] <gh0zt_> $1,200 for a C++ 1.52 file to compile one little object that won't compile in VS2008
[05:03] <spikebike> basically an effective trick to lock out other vendors in the laptop chip space
[05:03] <gogeta> spikebike: i wanna i7 laptop
[05:03]  * spikebike just bought an i7 desktop
[05:03] <Tetsu_> spikebike: How it work?
[05:03] <jhb1608> I am afraid to use Ubuntu in a brand new desktop I don't know about.
[05:03] <gogeta> spikebike: i7 laptops are still in the 2 grand range
[05:04] <jhb1608> so I'm sticking on my semi-old desktop
[05:04] <jhb1608> :)
[05:04] <Animagladius_> Night
[05:04] <spikebike> gogeta: yeah doesn't seem worth it for a laptop.. yet
[05:04] <Tetsu_> I still and always stick to my Thinkpad G40
[05:04] <res> jhb1608: couldn't find package...
[05:04] <spikebike> works great, fast, low power, I actually got a xeon it was cheaper and had ECC
[05:04] <jhb1608> ok hold on
[05:04] <gogeta> spikebike: yea quads are in the 800$ range now
[05:05] <lgc> zedster1, by the way, there's some 'system janitor' (I'm translating from Spanish) that's supposed to bring the system back to a like-new install. How safe is it?
[05:05] <Tetsu_> res: Version of your Ubuntu?
[05:05] <res> Tetsu_: jaunty
[05:05] <jhb1608> odd.
[05:05] <bdigital> so is the 9.10 release out today?
[05:05] <spikebike> yes
[05:05] <jhb1608> lol I asked the same thing
[05:05] <Tetsu_> res: try this sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[05:05] <bdigital> anyone got a link?
[05:05] <jhb1608> but I don't see it in the ubuntu website.
[05:05] <gogeta> not yet
[05:06] <spikebike> today!= now
[05:06] <bdigital> haha
[05:06] <jhb1608> spike, nope.
[05:06] <__mack__> rofl
[05:06] <jhb1608> later maybe at noon
[05:06] <spikebike> noon in which timezone?
[05:06] <boknoy> can I use nvidia-settings with drivers other than nvidia?
[05:06] <jhb1608> I dunno anytime
[05:06] <spikebike> no
[05:06] <jhb1608> it don't appear now
[05:06] <jhb1608> just later
[05:06] <jhb1608> yes
[05:06] <gogeta> and at noon alll the servers will crash
[05:06] <res> Tetsu_: downloading
[05:06] <gogeta> or be heavly slashdotted
[05:06] <gogeta> lol
[05:07] <Tetsu_> Maybe GMT+0
[05:07] <__mack__> gmt-24
[05:07] <spikebike> I think ubuntu should ditch ftp/http downloads and mirrors.. just post torrents and let anyone who wants to mirror do so
[05:07] <Tetsu_> GMT-24? =gmt"0
[05:07] <jhb1608> you cannot control the time gogeta
[05:07] <gogeta> spikebike: they do
[05:07] <jhb1608> you need patience
[05:07] <jhb1608> :)
[05:07] <spikebike> seems like a huge amount of work and bother to setup the mirrors, preload directories, trust relationships, etc.
[05:08] <jhb1608> lol
[05:08] <gogeta> spikebike: they post torrents as well
[05:08] <lgc> I would like to hear about other users' experiences with the system janitor.
[05:08] <spikebike> gogeta: yeah I know
[05:08] <gogeta> spikebike: you said you wish they did lol they do
[05:08] <chrisoei> I just wish apt-p2p was more mature. Downloading the ISO is one problem, but being unable to use apt-get is a bigger one, IMHO.
[05:09] <Vantrax> i must say i am suprised more people arent in #ubuntu-release-party
[05:09] <res> Tetsu_: still not working after it
[05:09] <generic> What is the state of 64 bit flash for ubuntu?
[05:09] <jhb1608> I like it lgc
[05:09] <gogeta> chrisoei: never a issue with me just use other and scan for the fastest mirror
[05:09] <Tetsu_> res: I think your sound driver have problem
[05:09] <spikebike> Vantrax: because it's noisy and it's no party without a release?
[05:09] <lgc> jhb1608, hasn't it wiped off programs you wanted to keep?
[05:09] <spikebike> imagine a new years party with new years happening sometime in the next 24 hours
[05:09] <jhb1608> It cleaned junk files as I expected
[05:10] <jhb1608> so it is fine for me
[05:10] <gogeta> chrisoei: alot of people try to use the main and well it gets drug down
[05:10] <gogeta> chrisoei: using a mirror i have never had a slowdown
[05:10] <gogeta> if anything faster
[05:11] <lgc> jhb1608, mine marks a bunch of .deb packages. But apart from freeing up some disk space, I don't see how this janitor is going to make my system run faster. Any ideas?
[05:11] <chrisoei> Hm.. I suppose the last time I had a real problem was with the 8.04 release. Could've sworn I tried several mirrors, though.
[05:11] <jhb1608> ah good question lgc
[05:11] <gogeta> chrisoei: slect other in sources and hit scan for best
[05:11] <gogeta> auto find
[05:12] <chrisoei> gogeta: I'll try that this time around. Thanks.
[05:12] <Tetsu_> Select your Country server
[05:12] <gogeta> Tetsu_: they will all be lo0aded down tommrow
[05:12] <gogeta> all the mains
[05:13] <hyb> where i cam get 9.10 offical
[05:13] <gogeta> tommrow we will tell you
[05:13] <jhb1608> will it upgrade automatically on my 9.04?
[05:13] <Tetsu_> Its autofind the best server for me when I install,so I dont need to get later
[05:13] <gogeta> yes
[05:14] <Tetsu_> jhb1608 Alt-F2, update-manager -d
[05:14] <jhb1608> like how?
[05:14] <gogeta> it will say thers a upgrade avable
[05:14] <jhb1608> yay!
[05:14] <MNichie> anybody know what time 910 final become available?
[05:14] <jhb1608> thanks
[05:14] <ctmjr> hyb you can ask in #ubuntu+1 or #ubuntu-release-party
[05:14] <jhb1608> it is avalible now
[05:14] <lgc> jhb1608, my doubt is if it's going to delete just the .deb packages or also the corresponding installed applications. And then it warns me that it can ruin my system...
[05:14] <Tetsu_> Just RC
[05:14] <rosebj> you guys get bored of everyone asking when karmic is going to be out yet?
[05:14] <bazhang> jhb1608, no its not
[05:14] <gogeta> no
[05:14] <Tetsu_> Just RC
[05:15] <gogeta> no
[05:15] <jhb1608> ah
[05:15] <Wele> Tetsu_:back up done, now what are the folders that should be deleted ?
[05:15] <jhb1608> can  I upgrade now and upgrade with stable later?
[05:15] <gogeta> Tetsu_: rc and betas get final early
[05:15] <Tetsu_> .(name)
[05:15] <gogeta> Tetsu_: so where not rying to upgrade areselfs
[05:15] <gogeta> trying
[05:15] <Wele> u mean under home folder ?
[05:15] <Tetsu_> Wele.(name)
[05:15] <Zahid> anybody can tell that i have configure Active Directory on Windows  Server and want to its user on Linux box, wat will be the permission on home folder on linuxbox
[05:15] <Tetsu_> ya
[05:15] <Wele> ok got it
[05:16] <jhb1608> can I upgrade the beata and download the stable upgrade now?
[05:16] <gogeta> it is stable now
[05:16] <gogeta> betas always get it early
[05:16] <Wele> done ..
[05:16] <Wele> what next  ?
[05:16] <jhb1608> lol
[05:16] <Tetsu_> Back up your contents is neccesary
[05:16] <Tetsu_> and reboot
[05:16] <gogeta> my loader does not say beta or rc anymore
[05:17] <gogeta> it used to
[05:17] <Wele> yeah I did that already
[05:17] <jhb1608> thanks Tetsu
[05:17] <gogeta> my updater is flaged normal not beta
[05:17] <gogeta> lol
[05:17] <Tetsu_> my update show its beta
[05:17] <jhb1608> same here
[05:17] <Tetsu_> but,its RC
[05:17] <gogeta> ubuntu has been doing that sense day 1 and none notced
[05:18] <jhb1608> will it update from beta to stable?
[05:18] <gogeta> yea
[05:18] <Tetsu_> Depend on the download files
[05:18] <jhb1608> proof?
[05:18]  * DigitalKiwi thinks its cute all the ubuntu users are excited for getting new software finally after 6 (or is it 3?) months and chuckles to himself content with his rolling release distro
[05:18] <gogeta> rc pretty mutch is stable
[05:18] <Zahid> anybody can tell that i have configure Active Directory on Windows  Server and want to put its user home folder on Linux box, wat will be the permission on home folder on linuxbox
[05:18] <Tetsu_> Anything will go to stable
[05:18] <polarbear> so stable should be out in like 12 hrs?
[05:18] <jhb1608> I think so
[05:18] <jhb1608> or early
[05:19] <gogeta> rc just means there testing the final builds
[05:19] <jhb1608> maybe
[05:19] <mattgyver> Anybody familiar with remoting into a VirtualBox VM over the internet, having a difficult time figuring out what ive done wrong
[05:19] <Lad> how do i install an athos wifi driver thats usb and not recgnized?
[05:19] <Tetsu_> RC mean final test
[05:19] <kevdog_> ?
[05:19] <gogeta> yep
[05:19] <jhb1608> ?
[05:19] <Tetsu_> I always use this mean for Windows
[05:20] <jhb1608> Release Candidate?
[05:20] <ctmjr> Lad: what does lsusb and dmesg show
[05:20] <jhb1608> :P
[05:20] <Tetsu_> Lad: Look up for supported driver
[05:20] <Wele> Tetsu_:No change, I am still getting the same screen, my xserver is not booting up as expected  ?
[05:20] <kevdog> ?
[05:20] <jhb1608> lol
[05:20] <gogeta> Lad: also ook in your hardware tab
[05:21] <Lad> ctmjr: ;susb: Bus 001 Device 005: ID 0cf3:9170 Atheros Communications, Inc.
[05:21] <gogeta> Lad: athros should have drivers
[05:21] <Tetsu_> Run in low-graphical if you dont need use anything 3D,OpenGL
[05:21] <gogeta> Tetsu_: never
[05:22] <digital_1> Good evening
[05:22] <Wele> Tetsu_: how do u do that  ?
[05:22] <Tetsu_> Wele: Did you get some Xserver repo from Tweak?
[05:22] <Lad> gogeta: do i just goto the website then?
[05:22] <gogeta> Lad: pfft
[05:22] <ctmjr> Lad: did you look in system > administration > hardware drivers
[05:22] <gogeta> Lad: look in system and hardware
[05:22] <Wele> Tetsu_: no improvement, whatever screen I saw before this tweek, I am still seeing the same screen...
[05:22] <jhb1608> gogeta, Please kindly let people speak
[05:23] <Tetsu_> Back up your contents to an USB and Re-install
[05:23] <Lad> gogeta: ctmjr: only my nvidia card is there
[05:23] <gogeta> !wifi
[05:24] <gogeta> Lad: just look up your card type
[05:24] <Lad> gogeta will do
[05:24] <Tetsu_> Wele: sudo apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg
[05:25] <Suhail> Anyone know the proper way to upgrade MySQL on ubuntu hardy to 5.1.40/
[05:25] <MrKlown> hi all, i have no sound on this laptop, can i get some help by any chance?
[05:25] <KB1JWQ> !sound
[05:25] <res> Tetsu_: it says gstreamer plugin not installed
[05:25] <Lad> how do i check which kernal im running?
[05:25] <res> Tetsu_: what should I do now?
[05:25] <lstarnes> Lad: uname -a
[05:26] <Tetsu_> Applications-->Add or Remove....-->Find GStreamers
[05:26] <Lad> and to upgrade it?
[05:26] <gogeta> lad you shoukd be running the 2.6 serise
[05:26] <kevdog> Why does xchat not except the /nick command for me?
[05:27] <Lad> 2.6.28 but... the atheros ar9170 chipset, works out of the box after my upgrade to kernel 2.6.31-8 (karma alpha 4).
[05:27] <lstarnes> Lad: you probably shouldn't be running a kernel that isn't from the official repositories for ububtu
[05:27] <Suhail> Anyone know the proper way to upgrade MySQL on ubuntu hardy to 5.1.40?
[05:27] <kevdog> Lad: uname -r
[05:27] <lstarnes> kevdog: which nick do you want?
[05:27] <gogeta> Lad: well kermic is out tommrow
[05:27] <[V]ortex`> hello is 9.10 delayed?
[05:27] <gogeta> no
[05:27] <Tetsu_> Tomorrow
[05:27] <lstarnes> [V]ortex`: it will be out within a few hours
[05:27] <ian_mac> Suhail, probably try to get a backported package
[05:27] <Lad> is that the new kernal? gogeta? that that text refers to?
[05:27] <lstarnes> Lad: kernel, not kernal
[05:27] <res> Tetsu_: yeah I found something gstreamer
[05:27] <[V]ortex`> Istarnes: ok thank you
[05:27] <gogeta> Lad: yes kermic runs the new kernel
[05:28] <kevdog> lstarnes: I keep trying /nick kevdog (when I'm kevdog_), and I get you are already logged in as kevdog_ ---- and thats it -- nothing
[05:28] <Suhail> ian_mac: any place with info on that?
[05:28] <Tetsu_> Its 5 or 6 Gstreamers,but you only need 5,Wele
[05:28] <nick> kevdog: are you high?
[05:28] <lgc> Hasta la vista, Baby. So long, friends. My eyelids are getting heavier by the second. Regards.
[05:28] <kevdog> ?
[05:28] <lstarnes> kevdog: make sure you don't have extra sessions running
[05:28] <Tetsu_> res,Mistake,sorry
[05:28] <DaZ_> kevdog: nickserv+ghost
[05:29] <gogeta> Lad: you can run kermic beta if you whant for today and upgrade to stable tommrow
[05:29] <raik> how much time if left for karmic koala?
[05:29] <ian_mac> Suhail, http://www.nabble.com/-Bug-403562---NEW--Backport-of-mysql-*-5.1-td24627880.html maybe?
[05:29] <res> Tetsu_: what should I do now?
[05:29] <digital_1> does last daily build = release version?
[05:29] <kevdog> nick:  Prior to running the above command (sorry about not talking about this), I ran the GHOST command
[05:29] <gogeta> no
[05:29] <jhb1608> yes
[05:29] <lstarnes> digital_1: no
[05:29] <Tetsu_> Install these Gstreamers,of course
[05:29] <Suhail> ian_mac: is it nightmarish to go off an do it manually?
[05:29] <ian_mac> I dunno
[05:29] <ian_mac> never done it
[05:29] <res> Tetsu_:it is already installed
[05:29] <ian_mac> probably not
[05:29] <digital_1> I d/l the last release version of the alternate install and nowhere does it say its a beta
[05:29] <Tetsu_> (- -)
[05:29] <Lad> will i be able to just upgrade from this version to the new one? or will i have to download it and reinstall?
[05:30] <digital_1> how would I know if its a beta ver?
[05:30] <jhb1608> chill down people lol
[05:30] <DaZ> Lad: theoretically you can upgrade
[05:30] <Lad> DaZ ty
[05:30] <kevdog> Lad: what version to what version?
[05:30] <bazhang> Lad, just keep updating
[05:30] <jhb1608> people repeatly asking the same questions
[05:30] <lstarnes> digital_1: lsb_release -a
[05:30] <gogeta> digital_1: grub says beta on it but its hardly ever visable in 9.10
[05:30] <lstarnes> digital_1: if you keep updating your packages, it should automatically become the release version when it comes out
[05:30] <Tetsu_> res: try on LiveCD,if there problem still be reported,the problem is your sound card,if not,reinstall Ubuntu
[05:31] <digital_1> Ok thanks for the info
[05:31] <[V]ortex`> how big is the distro file for 9.10?
[05:31] <bazhang> [V]ortex`, somewhat less than 700mb
[05:31] <Tetsu_> Just like 9.04 or others
[05:31] <gogeta> like always
[05:31] <lstarnes> [V]ortex`: the .iso is probably going to be around 650 to 700 MB
[05:32] <Tetsu_> probably 670~700
[05:32] <[V]ortex`> Ok thank you
[05:32]  * kevdog just thinks to myself -- why does everyone have to rush to upgrade today!!!!! I mean are you really going to miss something if you wait  a day or two?
[05:32] <jhb1608> well will it upgrade automatically even I am installing 9.10 beta?
[05:32] <Flannel> jhb1608: Yes
[05:32] <Tetsu_> ya
[05:32] <jhb1608> kevdog, true lol
[05:33] <jhb1608> ok good flannel
[05:33] <jhb1608> :)
[05:33] <gogeta> kevdog: yes dont knoe what but yes
[05:33] <jhb1608> thanks.
[05:33] <digital_1> Anyone know how to remove empathy from the indicator-applet on the top panel?
[05:33] <JohnTeddy> If I open gedit and write up a page of ASCII, then my laptop freezes and I have to hard reboot. And I did not save.. I have all default ubuntu settings. Is my data stored on disk anywhere after the reboot?
[05:33] <jhb1608> I hope 9.10 is better than 9.04
[05:33] <kevdog> gogeta: English?
[05:33] <Tetsu_> kevdog cant wait.try it first
[05:33] <gogeta> kevdog: dont make me start speaking spanish on you
[05:34] <Tetsu_> lolz
[05:34] <jhb1608> then leave gogeta.
[05:34] <kevdog> Tetsu_: If you don't try it in 5 minutes you might blow up!!
[05:34] <kevdog> gogeta: Hola
[05:34] <polarbear> jhb1608: why does it need to be better than 9.04? you know it will be anyway :P
[05:34] <DaZ> JohnTeddy: some text editors make backups
[05:34] <jhb1608> Because I have issues with certain programs
[05:34] <DaZ> filename plus ~
[05:34] <gogeta> kevdog: hola lol
[05:35] <Tetsu_> The newer always better than odler!
[05:35] <jhb1608> like the firefox upgrade is grayed out
[05:35] <polarbear> are they still finishing compiling this iso or something xP
[05:35] <digital_1> grrr need to get rid of empathy
[05:35] <jhb1608> but I can't upgrade unless I upgrade to 9.10
[05:35] <JohnTeddy> DaZ: Do you know what the default behavior is for ubuntu/gedit on jaunty?
[05:35] <kevdog> gogeta: necesito dormido.  Hasta la noche!
[05:35] <Tetsu_> JohnTeddy have someproblem with ASCII
[05:35] <DaZ> JohnTeddy:  i don't, just look for it
[05:35] <kevdog> gogeta: Did that make sense?
[05:35] <JohnTeddy> DaZ: I did, I don't see it anywhere.
[05:36] <DaZ> so there's no backup
[05:36] <Tetsu_> (name)~ always beside the (name)
[05:36] <JohnTeddy> Tetsu_: And if I didn't save it? untitled~ ?
[05:36] <Suhail> so anybody know how to upgrade to latest mysql build?
[05:37] <solaris__> alguien de curico chile
[05:37] <DaZ> hm
[05:37] <kevdog> solaris__: nada
[05:37] <Tetsu_> JohnTeddy: You dont save it,its temp (name)~ on title
[05:37] <gogeta> kevdog: no no se duerme es para los débiles
[05:37] <digital_1> So anyone's guess at what time it gets released?  More curious than anxious.  Is it always the same time?
[05:37] <courpse_> How do i allow all connections on any port with Shorewall?
[05:38] <solaris__> <°)))< pescado
[05:38] <Tetsu_> may be 0700hrs GMT+0
[05:38] <kevdog> gogeta: I guess I'm weak then!!
[05:38] <raik> how can i upgrade 9.04 to 9.10?
[05:38] <gogeta> heh
[05:38] <digital_1> Tesu_:  thanks
[05:38] <Tetsu_> update-manager -d
[05:38] <DaZ> raik: iddqd&idkfa
[05:38] <DaZ> and it's 9.10
[05:38] <JohnTeddy> Tetsu_: i don't see any file. I guess it didn't save.
[05:39] <DaZ> JohnTeddy: maybe it's somewhere in ~/.gedit
[05:39] <Tetsu_> JohnTeddy: of course not,you dont save yet
[05:39]  * kevdog although I'm going to sleep -- I might dream of shooting myself in the head after dealing with all these upgrade questions on this forum -- come on guys  keep your pants on and just wait --
[05:39] <Tetsu_> JohnTeddy may be it in temp folder in .gedit
[05:39] <JohnTeddy> Tetsu_: Well I mean there was no backup written to disk as a temp
[05:39] <digital_1> Kinda like the darker theme....  This is the one time of year (Halloween) that the default Ubuntu theme color actually seems appropriate.
[05:40] <aberhow> so is it out yet?
[05:40] <FireCrotch> !isitout | aberhow
[05:40] <Tetsu_> JohnTeddy: did you mean...you change contents of a doc,but there are no backup?
[05:40] <digital_1> aberhow: not yet
[05:40] <aberhow> thanks ubottu , digital_1
[05:41] <digital_1> ubottu is a bot
[05:41] <gogeta> kevdog: Sí. Las personas que son molestas preguntar todo el tiempo
[05:41] <gogeta> hahah
[05:41] <generic>  
[05:41] <Tetsu_> lolz
[05:41] <Tetsu_> non-sense
[05:41] <jhb1608> I'll give uttobu a hug :P
[05:41] <Coobra> hey
[05:41] <[V]ortex`> is it wise to upgrade to 9.10 today? or should i wait a few days?
[05:42] <JohnTeddy> Tetsu_: I opened gedit, wrote a page, my laptop froze, I did a hard reboot. I am back on irc, I wanted to know if there is a backup that is auto written to disk from gedit somewhere. I never hit the save button.
[05:42] <Tetsu_> digital_1 download theme
[05:42] <ID_10T_error> Can someone point me in the right direction?  I found a bug in 9.10 where it is misreading the motherboard raid information thus preventing start-up.  Where do I go to report it?
[05:42] <Tetsu_> ~/.gedit
[05:42] <polarbear> no
[05:42] <gogeta> lol hes probly trying toi translate that
[05:42] <Coobra> if i run "ufw" will it generate rules for ipv6 if its up ?
[05:42] <Tetsu_> JohnTeddy:~/.gedit,may be probably no backup for temp(autodelete when exit)
[05:42] <digital_1> Anyone use the mediabuntu repos and if so are they stable enough?
[05:43] <Tetsu_> its stable
[05:43] <DaZ> Tetsu_: there's no .gedit
[05:43] <DaZ> [;
[05:43] <Tetsu_> But I have
[05:43] <DaZ> hm
[05:43] <Coobra> anny help :o
[05:43] <ispot> I've got " /bin/bash : no such file ..." , when I reboot my new LFS system. who can help me?
[05:44] <digital_1> Want to configure all that multimedia stuff in one easy shot rather than have it prompt me each time I hit a different media type (e.g. mp3, wav, mp4, etc.)
[05:44] <[V]ortex`> does unbuntu roll out patches like windows?
[05:44] <ZykoticK9> digital_1, if you mean the "medibuntu" repository - i've never had any problems with it
[05:44] <gogeta> yes
[05:44] <digital_1> If you mean does it have regular updates, yes.
[05:44] <gogeta> pretty often
[05:45] <digital_1> I'll try the medibuntu repos then.  Thanks.
[05:45] <jvargas> hi
[05:45] <[V]ortex`> ok so there might be an update soon after 9.10 release?
[05:45] <ctmjr> ID_10T_error: you should wait till 9.10 is officially released then upgrade then if the problem does not go away then report the bug
[05:45] <gogeta> probly
[05:45] <jvargas> does this file exists on ur ubuntu installations? libmysql.so
[05:45] <Tetsu_> medibuntu update everyweek
[05:45] <gogeta> if you mean beta to stable same day
[05:45] <DaZ> jvargas: if you've installed mysql then yes ;f
[05:49] <jhb1608> yes gogeta is correct.
[05:49] <pengyg> hi
[05:49] <infidx> i have 2 computers in my network running sshd and screen identically. However, I can only 'screen -r' to one of the computers. the other one always fails with 'dungeon collapses' message. the terminals are both the same, and TERM is set to screen-256color. What could cause this?
[05:49] <Rambo> Hello
[05:49] <DaZ> dungeon collapses? :o
[05:49] <Rambo> ummm
[05:49] <courpse_> How can i allow all outgoing connections with shorewall?
[05:50] <isola73dsh33p> has 9.10 come out yet?
[05:50] <Loafers> What time is Karmic Koala released?
[05:50] <Tetsu_> Turn shorewall of
[05:50] <FireCrotch> !isitout | isola73dsh33p
[05:50] <bazhang> isola73dsh33p, not yet
[05:50] <isola73dsh33p> yay!!
[05:50] <isola73dsh33p> T_T
[05:50] <isola73dsh33p> not yet...
[05:50] <Rambo> I have two issues....i have a d-link 635 wireless router and a dwa 160 wireless reciever both are (n standard) will I be able to get them to work with ubuntu
[05:50] <FireCrotch> Rambo: Welcome to #ubuntu
[05:50] <infidx> daz yeah screen sometimes uses nethack style error messages
[05:50] <Tetsu_> maybe 0700hrsGMT+0
[05:51] <courpse_> Tetsu_, Um... Was kinda after a better answer to that?
[05:51]  * altf2o has really enjoyed Karmic RC.
[05:51] <courpse_> Tetsu_, I asked all outgoing connections, not all incomming connections.
[05:51] <DaZ> infidx: dunno, strace it ;f
[05:51] <FireCrotch> Rambo: Yes you will!
[05:51] <Rambo> haha how?
[05:52] <Rambo> lol
[05:52] <Tetsu_> im not ans you cuorpse
[05:52] <courpse_> ?
 How can i allow all outgoing connections with shorewall? | <Tetsu_> Turn shorewall of
[05:52] <FireCrotch> Rambo: From what I am reading, that particular wireless card works out of the box in Ubuntu 9.10
[05:52] <Tetsu_> omg
[05:52] <Rambo> OH WONDERFUL
[05:52] <Rambo> excuse caps
[05:52] <Rambo> 9.4 it didnt
[05:52] <FloodBot2> Rambo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:52] <polarbear> just wait like 6 hrs or so for it to come out :P
[05:52] <Rambo> thats the best news thanks
[05:52] <isola73dsh33p> *9.04
[05:52] <kevinl> is there any known issue in ubuntu 9.04 that causes your internet to slow to a CRAWL while a torrent, running not even very fast is running? My net connection gets over 20 Mbps on speed tests, but my internet basically stops when i run a torrent going 100 kbps . doesnt happen in windows, never happened in linux to me before.
[05:53] <maman_> what..? so long to wait for 6 hours
[05:53] <digital_1> what is shorewall?
[05:53] <Rambo> what are you reading FireCrotch
[05:53] <FireCrotch> Rambo: Errr.... sorry, what I was reading was about 9.04 actually
[05:53] <Tetsu_> like UFW
[05:53] <courpse_> Firewall software.
[05:53] <Rambo> oh
[05:53] <jhb1608> maman, that's why patience is important.
[05:53] <jhb1608> Be patient!
[05:54] <maman_> hai
[05:54] <FireCrotch> Rambo: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=7943882&postcount=5
[05:54] <polarbear> sleep, wake up, install :P
[05:54] <maman_> ok... i'll do it
[05:54] <Tetsu_> kevinl of course,my test speed is 40Mbs,but it only 150kbs
[05:54] <jhb1608> yes polarbear
[05:54] <kewlbns69> 9.10 leaked
[05:54] <Tetsu_> 3hrs more to 7hrs GMT+0
[05:54] <jhb1608> kewlbns69: wait.
[05:54] <isola73dsh33p> D:
[05:54] <mr_amit> hi all
[05:55] <jhb1608> BE PATIENT!
[05:55] <jhb1608> :|
[05:55] <tottiq> is there a release party channel?
[05:55] <mr_amit> is it possible to do something similar to http://www.shorewall.net/MultiISP.html
[05:55] <DaZ> !party
[05:55] <mr_amit> with UFW?
[05:55] <isola73dsh33p> i wish my headphone jack problem will be solved by 9.10
[05:55] <courpse_> Erm, how can free software than has been offered all the way thru its progress for free be 'leaked' ?
[05:55] <isola73dsh33p> =_=
[05:55] <polarbear> i wouldnt trust a leak from another site...
[05:55] <polarbear> just wait like 6 hrs or so and make sure you get the actual thing
[05:55] <kewlbns69> it's not downloadable yet from ubuntu.com
[05:55] <jhb1608> yes
[05:56] <isola73dsh33p> the gnome is still similar right?
[05:56] <Tetsu_> Download an ISO of RC,burn to ur USBand install
[05:56] <kewlbns69> but it is through BT
[05:56] <polarbear> unless mark shuttleworth hands you a burnt cd that says 9.10, dont trust it ;)
[05:56] <digital_1> I gotta believe this last daily build has to be bit for bit near identical to the release
[05:56] <natarajan> when is ubuntu 9.10 can be downloaded
[05:56] <polarbear> sometime today
[05:56] <kewlbns69> he's half way across the planet right now prolly getting drunk lol
[05:56] <QQi> hash same in daily build
[05:56] <Tetsu_> from 0700 to 1200
[05:57] <isola73dsh33p> btw, how are they going to inform us?
[05:57] <natarajan> k thanks polarbear
[05:57] <digital_1> via the www.ubuntu.com I guess
[05:57] <polarbear> maybe look at this: http://mirror.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/ubuntu-releases/.pool/ubuntu-9.10-desktop-i386.iso
[05:57] <polarbear> :P
[05:57] <mr_amit> hello
[05:57] <mr_amit> does this a right place to get help for UFW?
[05:58] <polarbear> that link is from some1 posting on the forums
[05:58] <kewlbns69> http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/.pool/MD5SUMS
[05:58] <Tetsu_> RC
[05:58] <kewlbns69> there are MD5's in that pool for 9.10 desktop
[05:58] <Tetsu_> 9.10 not out yet
[05:59] <isola73dsh33p> btw guys, if i install 9.10, will i lost everything i installed in 9.04
[05:59] <knoppies> isola73dsh33p, depends how you install 9.10
[05:59] <willca> !isitout
[06:00] <kewlbns69> there's a thread on ubuntu forums someone posted bt links and md5s
[06:00] <MrKlown> can anyone recommend a good widget type program that lets me put weather on my laptop? it
[06:00] <MrKlown> it is quite important for what i need
[06:00] <d9500> isola73dsh33p: only if you do a wipe and clean install. if you do an upgrade, you keep your programs and settings.
[06:00] <kewlbns69> it's out ppl whoohooo
[06:00] <polarbear> i would wait for official!! :D
[06:00] <knoppies> MrKlown, Cairo dock has a weather app.
[06:00] <bazhang> kewlbns69, no its not
[06:00] <isola73dsh33p> ok, thanks
[06:00] <MrKlown> ty knoppies, is that one decent on system resources?
[06:01] <MrKlown> on a budget laptop right now lol
[06:01] <isola73dsh33p> the upgrade can be done via the terminal right?
[06:01] <digital_1> How can you view an MDF checksum on an existing file in Ubuntu?
[06:01] <Tetsu_> Ubuntu,on the clock or cairo
[06:01] <knoppies> isola73dsh33p, on my old P4 3.0Ghz 1.2Gig ram it uses an average of 25%
[06:01] <maman_> hi... i've the problem connecting my digicam PENTAX OPTIO through USB. Ubuntu only detect the USB Drive but not the disk in it.
[06:01] <knoppies> so no.
[06:01] <maman_> this problem also found in OpenSUSE
[06:01] <d9500> isola73dsh33p: yes. sudo aptitude dist-upgrade.
[06:01] <kewlbns69> check the forum digital_1 there's a link to the md5 pool
[06:01] <polarbear> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM
[06:02] <Tetsu_> isola update-manager -d also a resolution
[06:02] <tonyyarusso> kewlbns69: Stop misleading people with pre-release links that are just going to slow down the servers' syncing process.
[06:02] <knoppies> MrKlown, did you read that?
[06:02] <tonyyarusso> kewlbns69: also, it doesn't belong in the support channel anyway
[06:02] <knoppies> MrKlown, I accidently used isola73dsh33p name
[06:02] <MrKlown> oh lol
[06:02] <isola73dsh33p> D:
[06:02] <MrKlown> 25% may be abit much
[06:03] <isola73dsh33p> 25% cpu usage?
[06:03] <MrKlown> the clock has that available where you can use the weather but it doesn't have my exact location
[06:03] <knoppies> MrKlown, yea. If you on a budget laptop, then use something else.
[06:03] <knoppies> isola73dsh33p, yes
[06:03] <MrKlown> i was speaking memory
[06:03] <Tetsu_> 25%fix
[06:03] <Tetsu_> fit
[06:03] <isola73dsh33p> omg!
[06:03] <Coobra> any ufw experts here
[06:03] <jhb1608> lol
[06:03] <digital_1> Then that answers it
[06:03] <isola73dsh33p> and your processor is 3.0 GHz?
[06:03] <knoppies> MrKlown, it uses about 38mb of memory
[06:04] <Tetsu_> my is 20%
[06:04] <jhb1608> mine less
[06:04] <polarbear> servers seem a little bogged down atm
[06:04] <jhb1608> I love it
[06:04] <Tetsu_> Gotta Restart
[06:04] <jitender> hi, dear all
[06:04] <knoppies> isola73dsh33p, yea, an old P4 extreme at 3.0Ghz. Im told that its because my graphics card drivers suck, and that the CPU has to do the rendering.
[06:04] <jhb1608> mine 15.9%
[06:05] <knoppies> jhb1608, what PC do you have?
[06:05] <digital_1> The hash I have for the alternate 64-bit matches the hash listed in http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/.pool/MD5SUMS
[06:05] <knoppies> jhb1608, I mean, what processor
[06:05] <jitender> any body know about ubuntu file system repair
[06:05] <jhb1608> I build this
[06:05] <sata> \join ##ubuntu
[06:05] <MrKlown> man oh man
[06:05] <jhb1608> how do I look on processor?
[06:05] <jitender> ubuntu repair
[06:05] <tyler_d> very good jhb1608
[06:05] <rave> how to upgrade to 9.10 from beta version
[06:05] <altf2o> hmm surely a decent nVidia card wouldn't be to expensive? If you're using an old enough card in todays world, even an older AGP card would be better.
[06:05] <Flannel> rave: regular updates
[06:05] <kewlbns69> oh ok other ppl are allowed to just not me?
[06:05] <kewlbns69> whatever
[06:06] <knoppies> jhb1608, system monitor. First tab. system
[06:06] <om26er> rave, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-uppgrade
[06:06] <jhb1608> Intel Celeron(R) CPU E1200
[06:06] <jhb1608> it have processor 1 and 2 same thing
[06:06] <knoppies> altf2o, Its got a fx5500gt in it. Its an AGP8x motherboard, but its not my main PC, so Im not bothered about spending money on it.
[06:06] <polarbear> rave: wait until it is released, then you will be able to update
[06:06] <knoppies> jhb1608, yea, mine too, but mines just multithreaded.
[06:06] <MrKlown> i used the nearest largest city for the weather, not exactly accurate but whatever lol
[06:06] <altf2o> ahhh
[06:07] <knoppies> MrKlown, Sorry i dont know of any more.
[06:07] <jhb1608> multithreaded?
[06:07] <Flannel> kewlbns69, digital_1: Please go to #ubuntu-release-party to discuss the release process, it's inappropriate for this channel.  Thanks.
[06:07] <MrKlown> no biggy
[06:07] <yzer> guys, seriously, no counter on the main site? :)
[06:07] <knoppies> jhb1608, Are you in Johanesburg? (forgive my spelling)
[06:07] <Flannel> yzer: Sometime within the next 30 hours.  Updates in #ubuntu-release-party
[06:07] <MrKlown> this is my cousin's computer, will it be ok if i don't do the newest update? this seems stable
[06:07] <jhb1608> Nope.
[06:07] <abdul> holy shinto
[06:07] <knoppies> jhb1608, duel core, but not really a duel core.
[06:07] <jhb1608> yes dual Core!
[06:08] <polarbear> okay, time to sleep and wake up when the release is out :P gnite
[06:08] <jhb1608> I'm not from Africa, i'm from Monroeton, PA, it is just my English :)
[06:08] <MrKlown> this is kind of sad but ubuntu was easier to install than windows lmao not to mention tons faster
[06:08] <knoppies> jhb1608, Its only got one core, but software thinks its two.
[06:08] <jhb1608> ah I see.
[06:08] <knoppies> jhb1608, Im african.
[06:08] <jhb1608> Ah cool.
[06:08] <polarbear> MrKlown: of course it is...
[06:08] <maco> MrKlown: thats not sad. that means we're doing something right :)
[06:08] <StrangeCharm> how can i convert a dm-crypt volume from using passphrase authentication to mount at boot, to using key-files instead?
[06:09] <MrKlown> i'm not a huge computer person
[06:09] <KurtKraut> If got that right, only the ISOs were published. No dist-upgrade is possible yet, right?
[06:09] <MrKlown> now if only people would make games for linux without us having to use wine
[06:09] <jhb1608> I am, but I need to figure out on the video card I wanted
[06:09] <gogeta> knoppies: it doesent think its 2 its multihtreded it behaves like 2
[06:09] <Flannel> KurtKraut: The ISOs aren't available yet.
[06:09] <isola73dsh33p> guys, how do i solve headphone jack problem?
[06:09] <knoppies> MrKlown, they do already.
[06:09] <ChoboMog> MrKlown...  If you know how to use IRC then yorue better than the majority of computer users imo :p
[06:09] <KurtKraut> Flannel, and the dist-upgrade?
[06:09] <knoppies> gogeta, yea, something like that.
[06:09] <isola73dsh33p> the headphone won't work even after i plugged in the headphone
[06:10] <knoppies> !games | MrKlown
[06:10] <isola73dsh33p> and the speaker won't mute.
[06:10] <MrKlown> isola73dsh33p: no idea, sorry
[06:10] <Flannel> KurtKraut: I don't know.  It's probably less lock-step than the ISOs.  But no, it's not released yet.
[06:10] <kewlbns69> tony: for the record i posted a link to the md5 pool not a "false download" as you said...get off your high horse
[06:10] <isola73dsh33p> its ok MrKlown
[06:10] <KurtKraut> Flannel, thanks for the info.
[06:10] <MrKlown> no no no
[06:10] <MrKlown> i know about the games for linux
[06:10] <physicist> is there any PC manufacturers that bundle their PC with linux instead of Windows?
[06:10] <gogeta> lol
[06:10] <isola73dsh33p> btw, how do you reply for a specific member?
[06:11] <gogeta> physicist: yes dell does
[06:11] <MrKlown> but i am talking about the mainstream games.. like world of warcraft, batman, ect, the big companies
[06:11] <isola73dsh33p> i mean, u're msg comes in red
[06:11] <isola73dsh33p> :/
[06:11] <MrKlown> isola73dsh33p: type the first few letters then click tab lol
[06:11] <MrKlown> it types their name out
[06:11] <isola73dsh33p> owh.. LOL
[06:11] <knoppies> physicist, you would probably be better off building your own and downloading linux
[06:11] <Basstard`> Ok, I've a question. I have a friend whom I had to help get XP back running, but showed her Ubuntu and she loved it. Though we had to put kernel 2.6.31 to get her webcam working, and it's still the same version. How will that affect the upcoming upgrade?
[06:11] <gogeta> man vbox is craling
[06:11] <gogeta> wtf
[06:11] <Balsaq> has antone had any luck with wireless on ubuntu?
[06:12] <MrKlown> ok and in all honesty i am not a casual computer user, i fixed this laptop here for my cousin lol... granted i could not get any version of windows to work on it for who knows what reason so he is going to be stuck with ubuntu
[06:12] <Balsaq> antone=anyone
[06:12] <isola73dsh33p> mine is ok
[06:12] <knoppies> gogeta, you on a windows host?
[06:12] <gogeta> knoppies: windows gust
[06:12] <MrKlown> ubuntu seems just fine for a casual user to be honest
[06:12] <altf2o> i've not had any issues with Linksys USB wireless adapters, or built in cards.
[06:12] <tritium> physicist: Dell, HP, Toshiba, and Acer do
[06:12] <gogeta> knoppies: intsalll whent quick enough now its just dragiin along
[06:13] <FireCrotch> Balsaq: Lots of people
[06:13] <knoppies> MrKlown, My brother had that problem, it was the HDD. If you format it in ubuntu, and then install windows on it, it might work.
[06:13] <knoppies> knoppies, otherwise get a new HDD.
[06:13] <gogeta> knoppies: hope gust tools helps
[06:13] <knoppies> gogeta, not sure what gust is. But I hope it helps too.
[06:13] <Balsaq> Firecrotch hmm itried and failed linksys told me no way no how
[06:13] <gogeta> guest
[06:13] <MrKlown> oh i do have a major question about something i need to do tomorrow... i have to hook up a router to this laptop and configure the router settings to get it to work for the ps3 wirelessly... as soon as i hook up the ethernet cable to the laptop should it allow me to go through it step by step?
[06:13] <Rakan> Hello is 9.10 it out?
[06:14] <physicist> gogeta: which distro of linux do those manufacters use?
[06:14] <gogeta> right now it can barly move a file
[06:14] <FireCrotch> Balsaq: If you tell us what card you have and what the problem you're having is, you're much more likely to get help
[06:14] <wolf23> friends, is it ready the new version of ubuntu?
[06:14] <gogeta> physicist: ubuntu and moblin
[06:14] <altf2o> MrKlown: shouldn't be any reason why not..
[06:14] <knoppies> MrKlown, if you know the IP of the router, then just type that in.
[06:14] <FireCrotch> !isitout | wolf23
[06:14] <Bluey> Rakan: prolly in a few hours --
[06:14] <bazhang> wolf23, not yet #ubuntu-release-party to await
[06:14] <physicist> knoppies: what's the difficulty of a linux bundle?
[06:14] <MrKlown> oh that would just be the standard ip then
[06:14] <Rakan> Bluey, thanks :D
[06:14] <Balsaq> Firecroth well i have  linsys g adapter
[06:14] <MrKlown> lol i didn't know it would be that simple
[06:14] <physicist> tritium: ah thanks. are the products propular?
[06:14] <jitender> some body tell me about ubuntu 9.04 repair
[06:15] <MrKlown> i want this laptop but it sure makes the lap hot
[06:15] <knoppies> physicist, not sure what your question is. But to me there is no difficulty. I could bundle linux to any system in 20min with no sweat.
[06:15] <MrKlown> lol
[06:15] <FireCrotch> Balsaq: model number?
[06:15] <om26er> #ubuntu-release-party
[06:15] <wolf23> ah ok
[06:15] <gogeta> man i dont rember vox being this slow
[06:15] <Balsaq> Firecrotch one moment will grab it
[06:15] <pen> hey
[06:15] <gogeta> vbox
[06:15] <physicist> knoppies: i mean why PC manufacturers rarely release linux bundled PCs?
[06:16] <knoppies> MrKlown, lapdance gone wrong. You should put the laptop on a solid surface (like a table) to allow airflow underneath it.
[06:16] <MrKlown> also, i am not going to go back through trying to install windows again... EVEN if it did work, that is extra time and i think the kid will be able to handle ubuntu, it's not that hard
[06:16] <MrKlown> all he does is gets on myspace and download and play music, he can do all that on ubuntu
[06:16] <knoppies> physicist, Im not sure. I think its because they want to grab the major market share, and unfortunately, that market share is windows based.
[06:16] <gogeta> MrKlown: yep
[06:17] <MrKlown> knoppies: i know that but i got sick of sitting at the table lol
[06:17] <isola73dsh33p> MrKlown, your headphone jack works fine?
[06:17] <FireCrotch> physicist: There are lots of reasons that PC manufacturers don't include Linux on their computers.  But please, remember that this channel is for Ubuntu support. I recommend joining #ubuntu-offtopic to continue this discussion
[06:17] <knoppies> MrKlown, I think its better the kid learns how to use ubuntu. It will open up his mind to the better world.
[06:17] <MrKlown> no idea isola73dsh33p but make sure to check your sound settings at the top
[06:17] <gogeta> naa we will see him in hear tommrow
[06:17] <gogeta> lol
[06:17] <knoppies> MrKlown, I use a peice of wood, about the size of the laptop, and then put the wood on my lap, and the laptop on the wood.
[06:17] <MrKlown> for some reason, i think it's a bug, when you first install certain things are turned down
[06:17] <Balsaq> Firecrotch wusb54gsc
[06:17] <Balsaq> works good on my xp
[06:18] <Balsaq> not on ubuntu so far
[06:18] <isola73dsh33p> MrKlown, there's no headphone mixer in the volume controller
[06:18] <isola73dsh33p> and the headphone switch done nothing
[06:18] <MrKlown> is it really called a firecrotch?
[06:18] <isola73dsh33p> :/
[06:18] <MrKlown> yes there is isola hold on
[06:18] <jhb1608> LOL
[06:18] <knoppies> isola73dsh33p, plug your headphones into the speaker out, and see if it works
[06:18] <knoppies> isola73dsh33p, either your headphone jack is not connected to your PC, or you dont have the drivers for it.
[06:19] <MrKlown> are you under alsa mixer?
[06:19] <isola73dsh33p> ok...
[06:19] <knoppies> isola73dsh33p, when I say PC, I mean motherboard
[06:19] <isola73dsh33p> its owrks now~!
[06:19] <FireCrotch> Balsaq: I believe you'll have to use ndiswrapper along with the Windows driver for your card.
[06:19] <jhb1608> lol
[06:19] <isola73dsh33p> *works
[06:19] <FireCrotch> !ndiswrapper | Balsaq
[06:19] <jhb1608> it is a silliest answer
[06:19] <MrKlown> what did you do isola lol?
[06:19] <isola73dsh33p> i'm using a laptop
[06:19] <Balsaq> Firecrotch wow interstin mix
[06:19] <MrKlown> same
[06:19] <FireCrotch> MrKlown: pardon?
[06:19] <isola73dsh33p> uncheck the headphone switch
[06:19] <MrKlown> oh
[06:19] <knoppies> isola73dsh33p, if you open up your PC case (turn it off first) you should see if there is a cable going from the headphone jack, to your motherboard. If there isnt, then its obviously not even connected.
[06:19] <MrKlown> FireCrotch: i thought his router was named firecrotch
[06:19] <MrKlown> lol
[06:20] <knoppies> isola73dsh33p, ah, nvm
[06:20] <Balsaq> !ndiswrapper
[06:20] <isola73dsh33p> knoppies, its ok.
[06:20] <knoppies> isola73dsh33p, glad I could help/
[06:20] <isola73dsh33p> but the built in speaker wont shut up
[06:20] <MrKlown> best thing ever about the ubuntu installation process... soon as it finished it connected to the wireless internet automatically
[06:20] <xxaaronxx> Im new to ubuntu, can i have some help?
[06:20] <MrKlown> very impressive
[06:20] <physicist> knoppies: maybe you are right
[06:20] <jitender> hi knoppies , please tell me for ubuntu repair
[06:20] <knoppies> xxaaronxx, yes, whats the problem
[06:20] <isola73dsh33p> knoppies, but i'm not done yet D:
[06:20] <physicist> FireCrotch: ah ok thanks
[06:20] <xxaaronxx> <--- new.
[06:21] <knoppies> jitender, Ive never used ubuntu repair.
[06:21] <knoppies> xxaaronxx, you mentionted that already, define your problem and I will see if we can help.
[06:21] <sun`> hms
[06:21] <Balsaq> Firecrotch i was i the wireless channel, a tech had me pull a number off the adapter itself, then he went tothe FCC site and when he got back he said it aint gonna happen...but till look into what you say..thanks
[06:21] <jitender> but u have any suggestion
[06:21] <jitender> who know well about repair
[06:21] <knoppies> jitender, I recommend looking at the ubuntu forums, and googling it. You are bound to come up with some answers there.
[06:22] <mneptok> jitender: what do you mean *exactly* by "repair"
[06:22] <Balsaq> who knew
[06:22] <xxaaronxx> Well, im trying to figureout how all it works, as i am a windows person, not nix. What i want to do is run a box say dual quad, 4gigs ram, for gameservers
[06:22] <geomi> hey guys, im helping someone recover his broken RAID array using ubuntu. But the "md" driver is in the way - its making the /dev/sdb drive 'in use' probably because it can read its metadata format and creates a md device.
[06:22] <geomi> My question: how can i disable MD?
[06:22] <FireCrotch> Balsaq: What? The FCC has absolutely nothing to do with your wireless card working in Ubuntu
[06:22] <hohummmm> anyone know eta for 9.10 release?
[06:22] <FireCrotch> hohummmm: when it's ready
[06:22] <knoppies> xxaaronxx, Ive never done game servers before. but you can run a dual core with 4 gigs ram easy.
[06:22] <geomi> i tried letting him use raid=noautodetect boot parameter, but that does not work :(
[06:22] <jitender> mneptok, i mean to say ubuntu file system repair
[06:23] <isola73dsh33p> what does the PCM for?
[06:23] <knoppies> xxaaronxx, It might even pay off to download the 64bit version
[06:23] <isola73dsh33p> pulse code modulation?
[06:23] <jhb1608> lol
[06:23] <Balsaq> Firecrotch he claimed if the right chip wasnt inside the adapter i was porked...the FCC site supposedly gave him that info once i gave him a long tiny number off the adapter itself
[06:23] <xxaaronxx> well like i said i have NO clue as to what im doing, could i get  a crash run down, on basics?
[06:23] <mneptok> jitender: what makes you think the filesystem needs repair?
[06:23] <_ester_> help, please. only K3b can burn DVD on my laptop. Brasero, GnomeBaker e.t.c. say "disk not found". how fix it?
[06:23] <hohummmm> i'm new to ubuntu. just made the switch from windoze a week ago
[06:23] <jitender> my system not starting up ubuntu , so i needed this
[06:23] <MrKlown> it's nice huh hohummmm
[06:24] <Rambos1> ummm
[06:24] <knoppies> xxaaronxx, its easy to use. Moving from windows to ubuntu is easy.
[06:24] <Rambos1> im strugging to get my dwa 160 wireless reciever to work under ubuntu
[06:24] <Balsaq> Firecrotch nontheless i will tryout your suggestion
[06:24] <Rambos1> any help will be great
[06:24] <knoppies> xxaaronxx, the start menu is top left, not bottom left (in gnome) and it is A GREAT DEAL MORE CUSTOMIZABLE.
[06:24] <Balsaq> thanks
[06:24] <knoppies> xxaaronxx, but as a server user you wont be interested in that.
[06:24] <hohummmm> very. took a little getting used to but i am enjoying myself. had some issues with flash but otherwise pretty smooth transition
[06:25] <knoppies> xxaaronxx, if you download the server edition, you wont get a GUI, it is purely console. So you might want to start with the desktop version, even though you plan on using it for a server, but then if console is what you like, get the server eddition.
[06:26] <xxaaronxx> i see
[06:26] <knoppies> xxaaronxx, I will brb. Ask anything here, everybody is friendly and glad to help.
[06:26] <xxaaronxx> ok
[06:27] <dmartinezc> xxaaronxx: server edition is not recomended for you if you are starting with ubuntu
[06:27] <xxaaronxx> Why so?
[06:27] <[V]ortex`> question: can i continue my torrents download from windows into ubuntu and resume vice versa?
[06:28] <MrKlown> goodnight everyone, thanks for the help
[06:28] <dmartinezc> xxaaronxx: becouse you will have to manage with te command line and its a bit scarry for starters
[06:28] <xxaaronxx> i see
[06:29] <hohummmm> is there a dummy manual for noobs?
[06:30] <bazhang> http://www.ubuntupocketguide.com/ hohummmm newer users may find this informative
[06:30] <Jangari> I'm trying to install a program from a shell script installer, and it tells me that "To install software you must be logged on as this computer's Administrator. If you are not able to do this, ask your computer Administrator to log in and run the setup file again." Sudoing it doesn't work. Any ideas?
[06:30] <Rambos1> im strugging to get my dwa 160 wireless reciever to work under ubuntu
[06:30] <tstebut> Hello
[06:31] <tstebut> Does anybody already used Xen ?
[06:31] <hohummmm> cool. i already dl that. i'm just trying to get used to everything and learn all the basic commands
[06:31] <geomi> Hi all. I'm helping someone recover his hardware RAID - to make that work i need to disable the "md" driver because its making the /dev/sdb drive 'in use' and unable to mount. How can i disable the md driver? i tried using raid=noautodetect boot parameter but it doesn't work.
[06:31] <bazhang> hohummmm, help.ubuntu.com and the ubuntu wiki are informative as well
[06:32] <asdfkh> .
[06:32] <marcus> someone plz help me
[06:32] <demonspork> !ask marcus
[06:32] <almoxarife> Rambos1: what's the prob?
[06:32] <asdfkh> marcus
[06:32] <marcus> I wanna install driver
[06:32] <hohummmm> thanks. i have found most of my problems by late night googling. so far no issues. i am suprized how much faster and better this is than windows. been in the dark for a while. lol
[06:32] <marcus> graphic driver
[06:33] <marcus> ATI Mobiliti Radeon 9100 IGP
[06:33] <Rambos1> ahh
[06:33] <asdfkh> .............
[06:33] <marcus> i got the prob with 9.04
[06:33] <bazhang> hohummmm, ubuntuforums are a big help as well
[06:33] <Lad> uh guys.... its out
[06:33] <Rambos1> i have a dwa 160 wireless usb reciever
[06:33] <Rambos1> have no idea how to get it to work under ubuntu 9.4
[06:33] <bazhang> Lad, no its not
[06:33] <Lad> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/910overview
[06:33] <marcus> now i'm using Karmic
[06:33] <soreau> geomi: If its a kernel module listed by lsmod, you should be able to do rmmod md
[06:33] <jitender> someone plz help me
[06:34] <marcus> can you show me the way to install ATI driver ?
[06:34] <hohummmm> the upgrade doesn't ovewrite with ext4 does it?
[06:34] <marcus> sorry about my english
[06:34] <marcus> i'm vietnamese
[06:34] <soreau> marcus: Which card do you have?
[06:34] <marcus> :(
[06:34] <bazhang> !vn | marcus
[06:34] <Lad> To upgrade from Ubuntu 9.04 on a desktop system, press Alt+F2 and type in "update-manager -d" (without the quotes) into the command box. Update Manager should open up and tell you: New distribution release '9.10' is available. Click Upgrade and follow the on-screen instructions
[06:35] <marcus> ATI mobility Radeon 9000/9100 IGP
[06:35] <marcus> ah
[06:35] <soreau> marcus: The driver is already installed then
[06:35] <geomi> soreau: does that work after booting and md having attached to the harddrive? i'm helping someone on a forum i need something that works since i can't try myself.. been trying to help him for ages its just md that's preventing the whole thing to work..
[06:35] <marcus> my friends in ubuntu vn are busy :(
[06:35] <marcus> all busy
[06:35] <marcus> :(
[06:35] <Flannel> Lad: the -d in that command explicitly means that it's not out yet.  -d is required to upgrade to development versions
[06:35] <KurtKraut> Lad, this shows the Karmic Release candidate.
[06:35] <Lad> qq
[06:36] <marcus> i can understand English,so i think that it's good to be here
[06:36] <vox> Lad: quit now while you're not too far behind.
[06:36] <Lad> vox im done :D
[06:36] <bazhang> marcus, that is fine, just a suggestion :)
[06:36] <marcus> ?
[06:36] <KurtKraut> Lad, try using update-manager -c
[06:36] <zcatNZ> have installed cube atlantis plugin for compiz.. now how to I make the gnome wallpaper/background colour go away? I can adjust cube opacity but that makes my icons fade too.. I want just the wallpaper gone
[06:36] <marcus> sorry,soreau: marcus: The driver is already installed then
[06:36] <Lad> no thanks
[06:36] <soreau> geomi: I have no idea about md or raid. All I know is you can unload modules and if md is a kernel module you can unload it like I described. Also, you may be able to try umount /dev/sdb1
[06:37] <marcus> what do u mean Soreau ?
[06:37] <yoophglup> when i press shit+z it does not write a capital z. all other letters work. I am using ubuntu 9.10.
[06:37] <marcus> u mean open source driver ?
[06:37] <soreau> marcus: Yes
[06:37] <marcus> can i have specific driver ?
[06:37] <marcus> oper OpenGL and D3D
[06:37] <geomi> soreau: /dev/sdb or any partitions are not mounted - so it has to be some kernel module and im suspecting md since there are some messages about it in dmesg. just can't seem to disable md it still attached to the device. ill try your suggestion thanks
[06:37] <marcus> for OpenGL and D3D
[06:37] <sagaci> yoophglup: is your keyboard configured correctly
[06:38] <Lad> whats -c flag do
[06:38] <soreau> marcus: The open radeon driver is the only one the offers 3D for that chipset
[06:38] <marcus> so ?
[06:38] <geomi> yoophglup: try using shiFt instead :)
[06:38] <sagaci> Lad: checks if a new distribution release is available
[06:38] <diskin> geomi, LOL
[06:39] <marcus> so,can i have compiz ?
[06:39] <soreau> marcus: Yes.
[06:39] <marcus> ok
[06:39] <marcus> how about playing CS 1.6 ?
[06:39] <asdfkh> .
[06:39] <soreau> marI have no idea
[06:39] <soreau> gahh
[06:40] <hohum_> there any way to set the cube up to have a workspace on the top and bottom cap also
[06:40] <hohum_> ?
[06:40] <soreau> marcus: I have no idea for any particular game
[06:40] <Jester86> hey guys.. i know this isnt a tech question but anyoe wanna help me out?
[06:40] <soreau> hohum_: no
[06:40] <sutur> Hi folks. I've got an 8GB USB memory stick. Would it be faster to install xubuntu on that, rather than using the hard disk? Seems like HDD is a huge bottleneck...uhm, regarding boot times, application load times etc...
[06:40] <marcus> okie Soreau
[06:40] <vox> sutur: you get about 3mb/s off of usb
[06:40] <marcus> ah
[06:40] <Jester86> So i'm nearly graduated w/ my undergraduate and I'm considering grad school.. should I go straight into grad school and if so should i go to a different university?
[06:40] <ESEDU_> Anyone know where to findbind9 error log?
[06:41] <marcus> can u show me how to enable compiz ?
[06:41] <Jordan_U> sutur: It really depends on the Flash drive
[06:41] <asdfkh> hmm
[06:41] <marcus> for the Gnome desktop visual effect
[06:41] <vox> sutur: and about 25mb/sec off of usb2
[06:41] <soreau> marcus: sys>prefs>Appearance>Visual Effects tab <-- set to Extra
[06:41] <ESEDU_> bind9 error log anyone?
[06:41] <vox> sutur: so.. its not fast. at all. :)
[06:41] <Jordan_U> !offtopic | Jester86
[06:42] <vox> Jordan_U: its not offtopic
[06:42] <marcus> ok
[06:42] <ESEDU_> Does bind9 have a error log
[06:42] <tritium> vox: it certainly is
[06:42] <marcus> and how about shortkey to show ?
[06:42] <Jester86> i know, theres just no one on any other channel.. didnt know if anyone wanted to throw out a quick 5 cents worth of knowledge
[06:42] <soreau> !who | marcus
[06:42] <sutur> vox: Shame. USB boasts 480mbps speeds, but yes, I did an hdparm test and it was slower than my hard disk.
[06:42] <asdfkh> .
[06:42] <bazhang> Jester86, try #ubuntu-offtopic not here
[06:42] <[V]ortex`> how to use !tab
[06:42] <[V]ortex`> !tab
[06:42] <sutur> vox: curious really...since a hard drive is mechanical...really curious
[06:43] <asdfkh> can someone whois me and tell me what isp im using
[06:43] <vox> tritium: ..asking what the best medium to install ubuntu onto is offtopic?
[06:43] <bazhang> [V]ortex`, type three or so letters then hit tab key to nick complete
[06:43] <yoophglup> ok works now thanks
[06:43] <asdfkh> or what state im in
[06:43] <Jester86> alright i have an ubuntu/mythtv/mythbuntu ? for you guys
[06:43] <bazhang> vox, he was asking about grad school or not
[06:43] <Argos> hey
[06:43] <Argos> is it out yet
[06:43] <asdfkh> nothing really shows up when i whois myself
[06:43] <tritium> vox: no, you are mistaken about what we said was offtopic.
[06:43] <Jester86> does anyone know if the digital boxes from twc can act as settop boxes?
[06:43] <vox> ahh
[06:43] <bazhang> Argos, no, join #ubuntu-release-party for the countdown
[06:44] <[V]ortex`> omg it works lol thanks
[06:44] <vox> ok, i'll get back in my box
[06:44] <losha> asdfkh: you can whois yourself. Try it...
[06:44] <Jester86> when does 9.10 come out ... in terms of hours here
[06:44] <akshay> when will ubuntu 9.10 release?
[06:44] <Jangari> less than 24...
[06:44] <bazhang> Jester86, /join #ubuntu-release-party for the countdown
[06:44] <Jester86> alright thanks bazhang
[06:45] <akshay> i think ubuntu 9.10 will be super sexy
[06:45] <om26er> akshay, its awesome
[06:45] <sutur> wonder if it will _really_ be faster to boot.
[06:45] <akshay> my jaunty experience was not that good
[06:45] <om26er> sutur, 26secs
[06:45] <akshay> my wifi kept dying after few hours
[06:45] <knoppies> om26er, that depends on each PC.
[06:45] <mgmuscari> !isitout
[06:45] <om26er> akshay, how do you define: experience
[06:46] <akshay> never happened in hardy before
[06:46] <sutur> om26er: against what speed for jaunty?
[06:46] <sutur> om26er: has to be relative to mean something...
[06:46] <mgmuscari> akshay: my wifi is so unreliable that i'm now tethered to my router with a 6 foot cat 5
[06:46] <mgmuscari> akshay: are you using the iwlagn module by any chance?
[06:46] <akshay> no
[06:46] <om26er> sutur, people with ssd's also have bbot time 5secs
[06:46] <akshay> i was using the default
[06:46] <akshay> i had installed madwifi for jaunty
[06:46] <sutur> om26er: FIVE!?
[06:47] <om26er> sutur, yes
[06:47] <akshay> sorry for hardy
[06:47] <mgmuscari> for the last few days, ever since some updates, the identity of which i don't remember, my wifi has been completely useless
[06:47] <sutur> om26er: Shame they're still unrealistically expensive.
[06:47] <mgmuscari> and my pulseaudio server keeps dying after only a few seconds
[06:47] <sutur> om26er: Like...honestly, REALLY unrealistic.
[06:47] <mgmuscari> so my music server is essentially useless
[06:47] <om26er> sutur, on the other hand Lucid Lynx will have ten sec boot on dell mini
[06:47] <mgmuscari> i don't understand what could have changed to just break all of my machines in some way
[06:47] <[V]ortex`> is there a rollback function in 9.04 like winxp?
[06:47] <mgmuscari> [V]ortex`: i would love that
[06:48] <mgmuscari> i'm upset enough at this point to try switching to a different distro that doesn't just throw up updates without sufficient testing
[06:48] <sutur> Surely there are sata to usb adaptors?
[06:48] <sutur> Oh but then it still doesn't matter does it. Sorry.
[06:48] <akshay> anyone suggest me a good download accelerator and manager for ubuntu
[06:48] <losha> mgmuscari: there should be a log of package changes in /var/log/dpkg.log. You might be able to track down and backout the relevant change...
[06:49] <om26er> mgmuscari, ya ya go use debian and w8 and w8
[06:49] <akshay> my internet connection really sucks that way
[06:49] <mgmuscari> intel wifi link 5100 agn seems completely broken right now, and pulseaudio won't work correctly with either my laptop sound card, the integrated sound on my asus motherboard on my desktop, or my usb sound device connected to said desktop
[06:49] <zenlunat1c> akshay: wget
[06:49] <mgmuscari> losha: yeah i've been hunting through there and i can't figure out what the heck changed. i tried going back to the .15 kernel that was working well for me
[06:49] <marcus> sorry
[06:49] <yoophglup> ubuntu 9.10 comes out of beta stage tonight?
[06:49] <om26er> akshay, multiget
[06:50] <losha> mgmuscari: I recommend 8.04 LTS. The most stable distro around...
[06:50] <sagaci> !isitout
[06:50] <zebastian> I downloaded a torrent and it was a uif file, i turned it into an iso but i want to have access to the files on it and i can't is there a way to extract an iso's information?
[06:50] <marcus> how to "see" compiz effect ?
[06:50] <zebastian> by the way i'm in ubuntu
[06:50] <sagaci> yoophglup: it comes out of release candidate
[06:50] <mgmuscari> losha: i like some of the features of 9.04 that didn't work well for me in 8.04
[06:50] <generic> so anyword on the distro?
[06:50] <generic> yet
[06:50] <addr1> im just trying to make sense of these commands
[06:50] <hrishi> no
[06:50] <sagaci> zebastian: you can automount it as a drive in nautilus
[06:50] <generic> :(
[06:50] <yoophglup> cool so there will be updates tonight.
[06:50] <addr1> im not entirely sure what they do
[06:51] <soreau> marcus: sys>prefs>Appearance>Visual Effects tab <-- set to Extra. Your windows should wobble when you move them
[06:51] <losha> zebastian: Gmount-iso provides an easy gui for mounting isos...
[06:51] <om26er> generic, any words on Karmic would be nice
[06:51] <om26er> not distro
[06:51] <addr1> irc is confusing
[06:51] <om26er> addr1, no its not
[06:51] <losha> mgmuscari: Well, you can't have it both ways. Either you have the latest features, or you have stability. Pick one...
[06:52] <marcus> yes
[06:52] <marcus> thanks
[06:52] <marcus> but
[06:52] <marcus> how about the slide
[06:52] <marcus> i mean the windows slide,open the way difference
[06:52] <om26er> addr1, you come to irc type the question/problem you have if any1 knows the answer/solution they start chattin with u
[06:52] <mgmuscari> losha: ideally i would like my 9.04 system to be where it was last week, without having installed whatever updates made everything go haywire... then i'd like to turn off the update manager and have it leave me alone
[06:53] <soreau> ! ccsm | marcus
[06:53] <mgmuscari> marcus: install package compizconfig-settings-manager
[06:54] <losha> mgmuscari: well that's possible, with a little effort you can roll back your packages to the state they were in last week, using /var/log/dpkg.log. And no-one forces you to update.
[06:54] <sl1ck> what time does 9.10 come out?
[06:55] <mgmuscari> losha: what kind of script-fu would i have to do to get that done?
[06:55] <bazhang> sl1ck, please join #ubuntu-release-party for the countdown
[06:55] <zebastian> how can i open a pdb file (in ubuntu)
[06:55] <mgmuscari> i'm guessing i need to know what updates i've installed, and what i had before the updates
[06:55] <indus> bazhang: when is release?
[06:56] <sagaci> indus: today
[06:56] <mgmuscari> people are so impatient for karmic...
[06:56] <bazhang> indus, join #ubuntu-release-party for the countdown
[06:56] <mgmuscari> wow, 20600 lines in dpkg.log
[06:57] <partyspoiler> where is the party tonight?
[06:57] <rosebj> your house
[06:57] <losha> mgmuscari: you could do it by hand. Starting from a week ago in the dpkg log, use synaptic to restore the older versions of your package. Chances are, it's just one or two packages that are misbehaving...
[06:58] <knoppies> partyspoiler, We crashing your lawn, hope its big.
[06:58] <partyspoiler> iam interested in a strange bug with ext4
[06:58] <mgmuscari> losha: how would i restore to an older version?
[06:58] <tgraupmann-w7> Who likes the WN121T? Ubuntu 9.10 doesn't seem to like it.
[06:58] <Jordan_U> partyspoiler: What bug?
[06:58] <partyspoiler> but i trouble shoot later tonight, some applications which ran great on older distros could crash on ext4?
[06:58] <losha> mgmuscari: I thought synaptic had an option to restore an older version?
[06:58] <partyspoiler> or maybe its akernel thing
[06:59] <tgraupmann-w7> I used ndisgtk loaded the drivers, but I can't connect to my network.
[06:59] <mgmuscari> losha: it looks like it's the 2.6.28-16 upgrade that wonked my laptop
[06:59] <Jordan_U> !details | partyspoiler
[06:59] <locky> any guides on using partion editor
[06:59] <sagaci> mgmuscari: boot into an older kernel
[06:59] <losha> mgmuscari: usually the previous kernel is still on disk, boot an older kernel...
[06:59] <mgmuscari> sagaci: i'm in the -15 kernel now and i'm still getting wifi drops
[06:59] <partyspoiler> jordan_U:its a game, whenever i run the version which takes advantage of dual cores, it crashes with segfault
[07:00] <sagaci> mgmuscari: boot into an older kernel at the grub boot stage
[07:00] <partyspoiler> jordan_U maybe its a kernel thing, worked flawless in all older releases
[07:00] <mgmuscari> losha: that's what's confusing me, i figured the problem would disappear if i booted to the older kernel
[07:00] <Jordan_U> partyspoiler: Why do you think it's an ext4 bug?
[07:00] <mgmuscari> sagaci: yeah, that's where i'm at right now :/
[07:00] <sagaci> mgmuscari: maybe it's your wifi
[07:00] <Jordan_U> partyspoiler: Why do you think it's a kernel thing?
[07:00] <mgmuscari> sagaci: nothing's changed in over a month....
[07:00] <partyspoiler> jordan_U just a hunch, the installer fails to write a few things to home directory
[07:01] <mgmuscari> it's only struggling with 11n and wpa/wpa2
[07:01] <partyspoiler> jordan_U kernel bug because  the dual core thing is enabled in the kernel
[07:01] <partyspoiler> so probably not ext4 but kernel
[07:01] <partyspoiler> i will have confirmation tonight
[07:02] <rosebj> so I was installing sun-java6-jdk over ssh and my connection dropped out, and I had to kill the proccess in the middle of it. I ran apt-get -f install which didn't do anything. No when I try to install java agin, I get "/usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)"
[07:02] <Jordan_U> partyspoiler: I doubt it's kernel, using multiple cores can trigger race conditions that won't happen when only using one core
[07:02] <partyspoiler> jordan_U hmm race conditions?
[07:02] <partyspoiler> jordan_U well, the thing is , when i connect to an online server it crashes, doesnt crash with the single player
[07:03] <zebastian> help i'm on the terminal I have a folder called 75 med when i type ls on desktop it shows it but when i do cd 75 med it says no such file or directory
[07:03] <diskin> zebastian, type cd "75 med"
[07:03] <partyspoiler> Jordan_U: it reloads the config file for that session online and crashes
[07:03] <soreau> zebastian: cd 75\ med
[07:03] <diskin> zebastian, or type cd 75 TAB TAB :)
[07:03] <partyspoiler> Jordan_U: it was working fine with alpha 3 of karmic
[07:04] <raik> how to uninstall softwares not list in addorremove like google earth?
[07:05] <partyspoiler> Jordan_U: could you think of reasons why this might be happening, it was fine for the last 2 years i used it
[07:05] <soreau> raik: sys>admin>synaptic
[07:05] <partyspoiler> Jordan_U: ever since ubuntu 7.04
[07:07] <marcus> i',m download a theme package
[07:07] <marcus> they show that GTK 2x package
[07:07] <marcus> how can i install this
[07:07] <marcus> can u help ?
[07:07] <cweagans> what time zone is the ubuntu 9.10 release based off of?
[07:07] <cweagans> as in, is it finalized right now?
[07:08] <marcus> i'm using install themes but its not working
[07:08] <raik> thanks soreau
[07:09] <sum-it> when is the realease time for ubuntu9.10 waiting for it impatiently.
[07:09] <Suhail> is it possible to update your distro from say 8.04 to like 9.10
[07:10] <sum-it> Suhail: apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:10] <Suhail> yeah i did that
[07:10] <Suhail> but not much happened
[07:10] <CVirus> I read that you shouldn't be jumping releases
[07:11] <rosebj> its best to do a clean install
[07:11] <Suhail> rosebj: sure but that's not an option
[07:11] <thenetduck> hey hey hey
[07:11] <thenetduck> is the iso ready yet?
[07:11] <CVirus> rosebj: clean install and lose your stuff ?
[07:11] <n512> try update-manager -d
[07:12] <Suhail> I am trying to figure out how to get MySQL 5.1.40 on my box
[07:12] <Suhail> looks like a manual instsall
[07:12] <rosebj> CVirus : well back it up obviously
[07:12] <CVirus> rosebj: I don't see how a clean install differs from dist-upgrade !
[07:12] <myadav> I have setup a lamp on my local machine can any one tell me how I can send a mail from my local machine for jsut a testing perpose only.
[07:13] <CVirus> rosebj: I haven't done a single format in over 5 years
[07:14] <Daedalus|> Hi
[07:14] <n512> suhail: according to the package list, mysql is v5.0
[07:14] <Suhail> n512: yea? that sucks, I need 5.1.40
[07:14] <n512> you'd likely need to build 5.1.40 from source is you require that version.
[07:15] <danlii> You shouldn't do apt-get dist-upgrade, it does seldom work as intended in Ubuntu. Use do-release-upgrade instead.
[07:15] <n512> been a while since ive built mysql from source, but i dont remember it being THAT bad
[07:16] <Suhail> n512: ok will try
[07:16] <Suhail> and see how it goes
[07:16] <n512> 5.1.40 is less than a month old.. its not going to be in dists yet
[07:19] <SingAlong> hi all
[07:20] <SingAlong> is Karmic Koala reasing today?
[07:20] <tonyyarusso> SingAlong: Yes - #ubuntu-release-party to wait for it.
[07:20] <psicobra> maybe one of u guys in here will know
[07:20] <LexR> good morning ubuntu!
[07:21] <tgraupmann-w7> I can't get on the internet with ubuntu
[07:21] <SingAlong> tonyyarusso: whats special on that channel?
[07:21] <sagaci> tgraupmann-w7: are you plugged in
[07:21] <tgraupmann-w7> I have NDIS 5.5 I'm screwed
[07:21] <sagaci> tgraupmann-w7: dial up?
[07:21] <tonyyarusso> SingAlong: It's not a support channel like this one.
[07:21] <psicobra> i have set a samba folder to auto mount using fstab but it changes the permissions to route of the folder that is mounted i need to to be mine
[07:21] <n512> NDIS = No Driver InStalled.
[07:21] <LexR> do we know anything about time when karmic will be released?
[07:22] <tonyyarusso> LexR: Read the /topic in #ubuntu-release-party
[07:22] <LexR> thanks tonyyarusso
[07:22] <psicobra> if u get me i have mythtv that needs to access that folder but it can't unless the folder is mine or mythtv
[07:22] <lascar> how can I create a live cd with all of my files, settings, etc.?
[07:22] <tgraupmann-w7> Normally these steps have worked in the past with 9.04 - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=537281
[07:22] <tgraupmann-w7> But not with 9.10
[07:23] <n512> didnt 9.10 move to Grub2?
[07:23] <tonyyarusso> tgraupmann-w7: Karmic support is still in #ubuntu+1
[07:24] <tgraupmann-w7> What does that mean?
[07:24] <tgraupmann-w7> a different channel?
[07:24] <tonyyarusso> correct
[07:24] <tgraupmann-w7> Karmic is that a developer?
[07:24] <tgraupmann-w7> Or the code name for the next version?
[07:25] <sagaci> tgraupmann-w7: the latter
[07:25] <furuno> tgraupmann-w7 : usually ubuntu release is named, e.g. 9.04 is Jaunty Jackalope and 9.10 is Karmic Koala
[07:25] <tgraupmann-w7> gotcha
[07:25] <furuno> tgraupmann-w7 : it just a name :)
[07:25] <Name141> Is Karmic  going to be released within a few hours?
[07:25] <Name141> or like.. towards the end of the da
[07:25] <Name141> y
[07:26] <tonyyarusso> Name141: #ubuntu-release-party please for that
[07:26] <tgraupmann-w7> okay I'll be back in +1
[07:26] <tgraupmann-w7> My kid really wants youtube on the karmac
[07:29] <isaac> hello! :)
[07:30] <dandaman> http://twitter.com/Danny_DeVito
[07:30] <dandaman> danny devito answered me!
[07:30] <dandaman> yeah!
[07:30] <isaac> lol
[07:30] <Name141> :-/
[07:30] <pef^> ubuntu 9.10 wtf, 3days, 2days, 1day, comming soon )=
[07:30] <UbuntuUser> hi
[07:31] <psicobra> has an7y one got any idea of how to chnage a folder permissions
[07:31] <n512> chmod <mode> <folder> ?
[07:31] <n512> :>
[07:31] <UbuntuUser> how to run vlc in system tray? i have gnome
[07:31] <pef^> psicobra, google chown
[07:31] <psicobra> i have got a samba share to mount on startup using fstab but it mounts with root access only
[07:31] <furuno> piscobra : right click on the folder and choose properties :)
[07:31] <furuno> psicobra i mean, sorry :)
[07:31] <UbuntuUser> of course i'd like to do taht from command line
[07:32] <psicobra> pef^, chown won't work when the folder ismounted if i un mount it then use chown then reboot it is root again
[07:32] <isaac> yeah!!!
[07:32] <isaac> I want 9.10!!!
[07:32] <isaac> Where is it?
[07:32] <pef^> comming soon...
[07:32] <psicobra> pef^, any other usefull suggestions
[07:33] <troopperi> UbuntuUser: open vlc-> tools->preferences->Interface settings->systray icon
[07:33] <isaac> I've been up all night waiting for my 9.10!
[07:33] <isaac> but it still links to the beta
[07:33] <TecnoBrat> Quoting the other channel ..... "Karmic is nearly released, but asking "when" delays it another day!"
[07:33] <psicobra> is there a Way of getting fstab to mount it with specific privileges
[07:34] <mouse{Linux}> Stupid question, I have not used ubuntu that long, and not up to an update before, when it is released are there updates ready form beta to release?
[07:34] <UbuntuUser> troopperi: i have chcecked it already but when i run vlc from startup manager vlc's icon does not appear in tray
[07:34] <psicobra> i am using 9.10 RC seems ok so far
[07:34] <Wargasm> 9.10 rc feels solid
[07:34] <TecnoBrat> psicobra, yes, privs and owner
[07:34] <pef^> psicobra, thats sound rather odd, sorry cant help
[07:34] <mouse{Linux}> I had a few problems, one was a kernel error :x
[07:34] <troopperi> UbuntuUser: if you open vlc at terminal does it give any errors?
[07:34] <psicobra> TecnoBrat, can you be more specific?
[07:35] <Flannel> mouse{Linux}: If you're on the beta, you'll upgrade to the final through regular daily updates.
[07:35] <fcn> !isitout
[07:35] <mouse{Linux}> Flannel, Thank you
[07:35] <rosebj> when I run apt-get install I get a message saying /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked. lsof says its 'frontend'. any thounghts?
[07:35] <UbuntuUser> troopperi: i do not thinki so
[07:36] <UbuntuUser> troopperi: where can i paste
[07:36] <TecnoBrat> psicobra, I think it depends on the type of partition, but you are looking for uid, gid and mode flags
[07:36] <psicobra> TecnoBrat, in fstab?
[07:36] <TecnoBrat> yes.
[07:36] <Balsaq> g in abi word, old printer worked great from day one, put a differnprinter in, won't print abiword? did print a test page?
[07:37] <troopperi> UbuntuUser: http://pastebin.com/
[07:37] <UbuntuUser> troopperi:  now all is ok! i think that when system starts somethings going on
[07:37] <psicobra> TecnoBrat, this is the line that mounts the folder
[07:37] <isola73dsh33p> guys, i have alsa mixer, do i still need pulseaudio?
[07:37] <psicobra> /PSICOBRA-PC/F /media/movies smbfs
[07:37] <isaac> "presses refresh button rapidly on ubuntu.com"
[07:37] <psicobra> what  should it be?
[07:37] <courpse_> Any good mailserver packages?
[07:37] <isola73dsh33p> ...
[07:38] <cweagans> courpse_: yes.
[07:38] <Balsaq> configured new printer, made it default, printed test...ok...went to abiword, typed document, wont print?
[07:38] <isola73dsh33p> guys, i already have alsa mixer, do i still needs pulseaudio?
[07:38] <courpse_> cweagans, Care to share some?
[07:38] <troopperi> UbuntuUser: great :D
[07:38] <UbuntuUser> troopperi: anyway that isn't my point. i'd like to see vlc in tray whithout my mous click
[07:38] <TecnoBrat> psicobra, /PSICOBRA-PC/F /media/movies smbfs uid=1000,gid=1000,mode=0666 0 0
[07:38] <cweagans> courpse_: http://tinyurl.com/yfe85yo  :)
[07:39]  * courpse_ susspects a google direct.
[07:39] <Balsaq> how do you make abi word print to your printer?
[07:39] <courpse_> i've googled already.
[07:39] <megamanx1978> Hi ppl
[07:39] <troopperi> UbuntuUser: U want it is allways there?
[07:39] <courpse_> And got one that took me over an hour to do, and doesnt work.
[07:39] <EricJ> Hm. Today is release-day, isn't it?
[07:39] <UbuntuUser> troopperi: now it is opening in tray but also window is on the desk.
[07:39] <psicobra> TecnoBrat, thanks your a star brb
[07:39] <TecnoBrat> psicobra, have any other questions about it ... google is your friend .. also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fstab
[07:39] <megamanx1978> Anyone here into linux gaming?
[07:39] <TecnoBrat> and on that note, bed time :)
[07:39] <partyspoiler> isola73dsh33p: ya you do
[07:39] <UbuntuUser> troopperi: i want window only in tray
[07:39] <tonyyarusso> EricJ: yes - #ubuntu-release-party for more
[07:39] <psicobra> Technoviking, i tried googling thats how i got it mounted in the first place
[07:40] <partyspoiler> megamanx1978: iam
[07:40] <isola73dsh33p> ok, thanks :D
[07:40] <partyspoiler> isola73dsh33p: its installed by default anyway, did u remove it?
[07:40] <raik> how to upgrade from ubuntu 9.04 to 9.10?
[07:40] <isola73dsh33p> not really, i thought i installed it manually
[07:40] <EricJ> tonyyarusso: thanks
[07:40] <partyspoiler> raik: sudo update-manager -d
[07:40] <isola73dsh33p> i'm about to uninstall it.
[07:41] <tonyyarusso> raik: 9.10 is still in #ubuntu+1
[07:41] <isola73dsh33p> but it seems it's required. :/
[07:41] <b0w> is 9.10 up already?
[07:41] <partyspoiler> raik: or wait till tomorrow and update manager will offer an upgrade
[07:41] <blue112> No
[07:41] <b0w> yeah ithought so
[07:41] <cweagans> courpse_: incoming or outgoing mail?
[07:41] <blue112> Hum, I wonder if we're gonna have people asking that all day long
[07:41] <blue112> I think so.
[07:42] <courpse_> Both i'd like, i set up a big howto based thingy, and now i cant send outgoing mail, and tbh, im a bit lost on how to get rid of all the hsit thye told me to stick on.
[07:42] <UbuntuUser> troopperi: do you know what i exactly want to do?
[07:42] <troopperi> UbuntuUser: i think so
[07:42] <isola73dsh33p> guys, do you know any internet speed tweak for ubuntu 9.04?
[07:43] <megamanx1978> I just noticed something interesting it seems like ign.com a major gaming site hates linux
[07:43] <troopperi> UbuntuUser: You want only trayicon when vlc start?
[07:43] <KurtKraut> Does anyone here uses Telepathy to access IRC? Can it handle #ubuntu volume of messages and users?
[07:43] <alabd> how to go to the first mail in trash of gmail ?
[07:43] <UbuntuUser> troopperi: yes, without window on the desk
[07:43] <tonyyarusso> isola73dsh33p: pay your ISP more money?
[07:43] <cweagans> courpse_: dunno then. I usually just install postfix and I'm up and running....I don't do incoming.
[07:44] <Blank__> KurtKraut, if only telepathy was real... :p
[07:44] <isola73dsh33p> >.>
[07:44] <courpse_> Yeah, i have outgoing working fine, but thats broke now too, i wanna give incoming a go.
[07:44] <Balsaq> help printing in abi word
[07:44] <ninjaII> hey!
[07:44] <megamanx1978> every single post on the linux board at ign is locked
[07:44] <KurtKraut> Blank__, this channel over a true Telepathy would by mind blowing :P
[07:44] <isola73dsh33p> tonyyarusso, i mean like increasing the bandwidth or something
[07:44] <ninjaII> is there an irc channel dedicated to ubuntu developent?
[07:45] <ninjaII> just looking for the "inside scoop" on 9.10 status :)
[07:45] <Blank__> #ubuntu+1
[07:45] <Blank__> ?
[07:45] <isola73dsh33p> i'm XP i could increase the bandwidth and manage to increase the internet speed
[07:45] <UbuntuUser> troopperi: do you have any clues?
[07:45] <isola73dsh33p> *in
[07:45] <troopperi> UbuntuUser: open vlc-> tools->preferences->and down there is "show settings"...change it all and you can now select interface->maininterface->start vlc only a tray icon
[07:46] <Cahan> Hello, I need to see the boot messages, there are some modules that failed and one that is freezing the boot process until I hit a key, is there somewhere where the boot log that scrolls down the screen is copied to?
[07:46] <forces> is it out jet?
[07:46] <UbuntuUser> troopperi: thans a lot
[07:46] <troopperi> UbuntuUser: was that easy?`.D
[07:46] <UbuntuUser> troopperi: it is extremly easy
[07:46] <MinusSeven> Finally!!
[07:46] <MinusSeven> i'm home from work
[07:47] <megamanx1978> Party spioler  do you just play linux games on linux or windows games too?
[07:47] <troopperi> UbuntuUser: np :)
[07:47] <zipito> so is the 9.10 released ?
[07:47] <ik1> Hello guys....
[07:47] <MinusSeven> yes
[07:47] <MinusSeven> no its not
[07:47] <rosebj> !isitout
[07:47] <ik1> I was just curious. what time do you think Ubuntu 9.10 will be released?
[07:48] <rosebj> never o'clock
[07:48] <MinusSeven> microsoft took kubuntu website offline, said they're copying windows 7
[07:48] <MinusSeven> seriously
[07:48] <MinusSeven> I'd say in the next 5 mins it'll be released
[07:50] <OramahMaalhur> hi. is it out? xD
[07:50] <MinusSeven> another few mins I think
[07:50] <isola73dsh33p> hey guys, I got this error: -> Failed to fetch cdrom://Ubuntu 9.04 _Jaunty Jackalope_ - Release i386 (20090420.1)/dists/jaunty/main/binary-i386/Packages  Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot be used to add new CD-ROMs
[07:51] <isola73dsh33p> Failed to fetch cdrom://Ubuntu 9.04 _Jaunty Jackalope_ - Release i386 (20090420.1)/dists/jaunty/restricted/binary-i386/Packages  Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot be used to add new CD-ROMs
[07:51] <isola73dsh33p> Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[07:51] <FloodBot2> isola73dsh33p: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:51]  * DaZ doesn't understand this whole is it out thing >:
[07:51] <H20> few mins .. i cant wait ..
[07:51] <Assyro-D_> is what out?
[07:51] <ross-hyphen> Karmic !!
[07:51] <UbuntuUser> troopperi: i haven't option 'start vlc only a tray icon' avaible
[07:52] <izzi> !Karmic
[07:52] <invitingdopeman> 9.10 WHAT TIME IS IT COMEING OUT
[07:53] <partyspoiler> izzi: karmic is released if peopel are already on rc isnt it
[07:53] <Assyro-D_> oo :D
[07:53] <ichat> !shout invitingdopeman
[07:53] <DaZ> pipe >:
[07:53] <ross-hyphen> What a let down after all the release date hype
[07:54] <ichat> ross-hyphen:  dont be rude, go be a kiddy elsewhere...
[07:54] <isola73dsh33p> i got this error while trying to update: - http://paste.ubuntu.com/304103/plain/
[07:54] <isola73dsh33p> how to solve it?
[07:54] <ichat> ross-hyphen:  ubutu is due somewhere today -  in the   EN_UK  (GMT)   timezone
[07:54] <UbuntuUser> troopperi: i have found it. i have to expand additionaly qt option
[07:55] <mneptok> ichat: please be polite.
[07:55] <tstebut> Is there any xen user in here ?
[07:55] <Flannel> ichat, ross-hyphen, invitingdopeman, et al: Karmic will be released sometime within the next 28 hours.  Please go to #ubuntu-release-party if you wish to ask/discuss it further/whatever.  Thanks
[07:56] <ichat> mneptok:  - sorry cant stand for users whi - come here and why that ubuntu isn't out yet (because the cant be paciently waiting for a few more hours
[07:56] <ross-hyphen> Sorry if you thought I was being rude - just disappointed
[07:57] <SingAlong> the whole release party channel is a troll and full of noobs talking about windows.
[07:57] <mneptok> ichat: channel your frustration toward something productive. like talking someone out of a Windows 7 upgrade. ;)
[07:57] <partyspoiler> mneptok: windows 7 is super
[07:57] <mneptok> SingAlong: that does not negate the fact that this is a support channel, and everyone needs to stay on-topic.
[07:59] <raik> does my whole sys change with upgrade to Karmic?
[07:59] <MinusSeven> downloading now
[08:00] <MinusSeven> version 14 of Winzip
[08:00] <tonyyarusso> raik: nah, just the wallpaper
[08:00] <Flannel> raik: In some ways yes, in others, no.
[08:01] <raik> will my application such as pidgin and firefox also get upgrade?
[08:01] <Flannel> raik: Yes
[08:01] <Irlaendr> hmm
[08:01] <Irlaendr> i wonder
[08:01] <Irlaendr> wasnt 9.10 supposed to be released today?
[08:02] <tonyyarusso> Irlaendr: #ubuntu-release-party - it will.
[08:02] <Flannel> Irlaendr: It's still today.  #ubuntu-release-party
[08:02] <Assyro-D_> looks like it was but hmm....
[08:02] <MockY> it can take up to 10 hours before it's available
[08:02] <acalvo> how can I install a specific version of a package?
[08:02] <Irlaendr> tonyyarusso: Flannel: thanks
[08:02] <MightyTweek> isola73dsh33p, what is it you're trying to do exactly?
[08:02] <eyalw_> Hi, does anyone know where can i find these icons for download? http://www.iconspedia.com/search/gnome/40/    I know its tango, but tango has 215 icons, and this set has 300+
[08:04] <megamanx1978> What is new in 9.10?
[08:04] <isola73dsh33p> MightyTweek, i'm checking for updated... :/
[08:04] <goose> megamanx1978: it's EPIC
[08:04] <goose> also, it's stable
[08:04] <indian_munnda> hi guys! I am here. For having a suggestion from you. I am Organising a TECHNICAL FEST in my college but i am not getting a good name for that. I have google too, but whichever name i like is already taken....:P. So can you guys please suggest me an attractuive name for the TECHNICAL FEST?????
[08:04] <tonyyarusso> megamanx1978: #ubuntu+1 for 9.10 questions
[08:05] <KurtKraut> indian_munnda, the term 'install fest' is rather popular.
[08:05] <isola73dsh33p> MightyTweek, nvm, i've solved it. Turns out i need the installation CD and mount it using sudo apt-cdrom
[08:05] <Bombbum> lol epic?
[08:05] <isola73dsh33p> thanks anyway :)
[08:06] <MightyTweek> isola73dsh33p, you shouldn't need the cd-rom for updates, you may get an error message if it can't find it but apt should still check the servers
[08:06] <raik> how to remove adobe air based application?
[08:06] <ltspadmin> xserver-xorg-video-all if i install this package then thinclient display problem is resolved ??? in ubunut 8.04 ltsp server
[08:06] <indian_munnda> KurtKraut: i think is not that attractive dude ..:) any other suggestion....:P thanks for your reply
[08:07] <randancing> #ubuntu-nm
[08:07] <KurtKraut> indian_munnda, if you want your event to be a marketing success, just put the word 'hacker' or 'hacking' on it.
[08:08] <BaseHead2> quit
[08:09] <indian_munnda> KurtKraut: yes you are totally right, I recently made a successful event by using the word "hacking". I was expecting very less people. But i got a very big reponse. People didn't get seats to sit there in the seminar hall....hahaha...lolzz
[08:09] <Beni_> hi
[08:10] <ikonia> hello bushwakko
[08:10] <ikonia> oops
[08:10] <ltspadmin> hi
[08:11] <ltspadmin> i install ubuntu 8.04 ltsp (amd64 bit) on my server but client is i386..on some client display problem is there..so can i have to install amd64 bit driver or i386 driver for thinclient
[08:11] <icarus-c> is the open office in ubuntu go-oo or standard sun openoffice?
[08:12] <kraut> KurtKraut: your name is annoying ;)
[08:12] <KurtKraut> kraut, don't be so jeallous :P
[08:12] <indian_munnda> :P
[08:12] <indian_munnda> names disscussions
[08:13] <kraut> KurtKraut: i'm not, but your highlights are spamming my mail-inbox... grrrr ;)
[08:13] <juanefren> what time will 9.10 be released ?
[08:13] <mneptok> juanefren: 25 o'clock
[08:13] <Beni_> yepp I would have asked that too...
[08:13] <Beni_> Last time as I remember it was 3 pm. Am I right?
[08:14] <Beni_> I mean the last release.
[08:14] <ikonia> guys- check the topic of this channel please
[08:14] <mneptok> there is no set time.
[08:14] <juanefren> mneptok: good one :)
[08:14] <mneptok> #ubuntu-release-party for release stuffs
[08:14] <KurtKraut> kraut, what do you use to highlight?
[08:14] <kraut> KurtKraut: irssi-proxy. maybe something what i need to fix
[08:15] <ichat> mneptok:  -  if that talkin involves smashing a Mircrofrut winmac   -
[08:15] <blue112> Can't we make a bot which notice to every incoming user "Hey, karmic koala isn't out yet ! If you wanna know when, go to #ubuntu-release-party" or something like that ?
[08:15] <mgmuscari> hmmm... is pulseaudio supposed to just exit if it starts using a lot of cpu?
[08:15] <Avash_sir> HA HA HA HA HA
[08:15] <Avash_sir> SO FUNNY
[08:15] <FloodBot2> Avash_sir: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:15] <Avash_sir> HE HE HE HE
[08:16] <Avash_sir> YOU CALL ME SIR FloodBot1
[08:16] <Beni_> Don't shout Sir!
[08:17] <Beni_> Please
[08:17] <mneptok> Avash_sir: the <capslock> key is on the left side of your keyboard. you should press it.
[08:18] <Beni_> And check the Caps Lock light on the right.
[08:18] <YOU_ARE_MY_BOSS> thanks assistant mneptok
[08:18] <mgmuscari> what the heck
[08:18] <mgmuscari> what's going on in here?
[08:20] <kraut> moin
[08:20] <[V]ortex`> question: when i upgrade from 9.04, will my settings be retained? like browser, shortcuts, desktop panels etc
[08:20] <mgmuscari> where are the admins
[08:20] <mgmuscari> lol
[08:21] <goose> HEY_BOSS: ignore the capslock suggestions. new suggestion: hold down the power button on your computer for about 5 seconds.
[08:21] <mgmuscari> [V]ortex`: given past experiences, i would backup my /home before upgrading if i were you
[08:21] <mgmuscari> goose: that's a good one
[08:21] <Beni_> Jep
[08:21] <Beni_> That will cause a big surprise for you! ;)
[08:21] <Flannel> goose: Please don't be malicious
[08:21] <[V]ortex`> mgmuscar: i'm dual booting, so i don't have data to backup; i'm just curious about my tweak settings
[08:21] <HEY_BOSS> okay, you guyz are teaching your boss
[08:21] <mgmuscari> [V]ortex`: back up your home
[08:22] <mgmuscari> if anything goes wrong, you can recover your compiz config, bookmarks, whatever from there after the upgrade
[08:22] <mgmuscari> [V]ortex`: i always keep /home on a separate partition
[08:22] <[V]ortex`> mgmuscari: i'm new, what's in /home?
[08:22] <mgmuscari>  /home is where all your user files go
[08:22] <mgmuscari> try doing cd /home/Vortex (or whatever)
[08:22] <Beni_> It's freeezing here. :S:S:S
[08:22] <mgmuscari> and then run a ps -A
[08:23] <[V]ortex`> mgmuscari: i switched off compiz, have no bookmarks; all i tweaked was the panel; are the panel settings there?
[08:23] <mgmuscari> it'll show you all the hidden config files and folders
[08:23] <mgmuscari> [V]ortex`: yep
[08:23] <sad> blah blahs
[08:23] <[V]ortex`> mgmuscari: ok, thanks. Alternatively, if i want to upgrade 'clean', waht do i do?
[08:23] <mgmuscari> [V]ortex`: neat tricks to use: if you're going to do a clean install, you can spit out your list of currently installed packages from dpkg
[08:24] <mgmuscari> and in the feed it back in after the install to reinstall everything
[08:24] <[V]ortex`> mgmuscari: can you explain further? waht is dpkg?
[08:24] <mgmuscari> dpkg handles a database of all the software you currently have installed
[08:24] <mgmuscari> try running dpkg -l
[08:24] <[V]ortex`> mgmuscari: the only thing i installed was ff3.5, and i think 9.10 comes with it; so how do i clean install without remnants remaining?
[08:25] <mgmuscari> just blast away your current linux partitions when you get to the partitioner step in the installer
[08:25] <buihoanggiahuy> hnk
[08:25] <[V]ortex`> mgmuscari: what do you mean? install over? change partitions?
[08:25] <cole> i hate it when girls just wanna be friends
[08:25] <mgmuscari> [V]ortex`: format your partitions when you reinstall
[08:26] <mgmuscari> [V]ortex`: just your linux partitions
[08:26] <Flannel> cole: Please stay ontopic
[08:26] <cole> i was wondering can i downgrade to xubuntu with unetbootin
[08:26] <[V]ortex`> mgmuscari: i see, ok thankew. i'm assuming there will be such an option when i upgrade?
[08:26] <cole> ???????
[08:26] <agus> my ubuntu run slowly after install xubuntu-desktop instead of xfce
[08:26] <mgmuscari> cole: i think you posted an errant message here
[08:26] <cole> because unetbootin seems to be a piece of crap
[08:27] <cole> really?
[08:27] <cole> i was just speaking me mind
[08:27] <mgmuscari> [V]ortex`: errr, i dunno. if you just want to do a clean install, just burn the livecd and install from scratch
[08:27] <cole> my*
[08:27] <agus> can I remove gnome after install xubuntu-desktop?
[08:27] <mgmuscari> cole: something about girls? i dunno
[08:27] <cole> lol oh w/e
[08:27] <cole> it wasent that bad
[08:27] <bryant> Uh, I know this is an Ubuntu channel, but does anyone mind if I ask a hardware question?
[08:27] <[V]ortex`> mgmuscari: ok thanks. I was just wondering if there's any other options to work from within 9.04
[08:28] <cole> sure whats the question?
[08:28]  * goose hugs cole
[08:28] <cole> lol
[08:28] <isola73dsh33p> ok, is it out yet?
[08:28] <mgmuscari> [V]ortex`: in my experience, upgrading to the next distro stinks
[08:28] <mgmuscari> !isitout | isola73dsh33p
[08:28] <cole> why thank u
[08:28] <[V]ortex`> :(
[08:28] <crawler> hi there.  does anyone know of a way to toggle the "Activate screensaver when computer is idle" option, via terminal or a shell script?  i'm trying to make gaming less painful xD
[08:29] <mgmuscari> [V]ortex`: i always just do a fresh install, keeping my /home and bringing a list of packages from my previous setup with me
[08:29] <cole> lol i know
[08:29] <isola73dsh33p> *sighs*
[08:29] <mathieu> hi can someone help me? im trying to make: /home/mathieu/Desktop/ati-driver-installer-9-9-x86.x86_64.run a deb package but terminal keeps giving me:  Permission denied
[08:29] <mgmuscari> isola73dsh33p: antsy much?
[08:29] <cole> but it dose suck when girls just want to be friends lol just saying
[08:29] <goose> mathieu: chmod a+x
[08:29] <mgmuscari> mathieu: use sudo in front of that
[08:29] <isola73dsh33p> not really
[08:29] <mathieu> thanks
[08:30] <goose> I agree, cole. I hate hearing that... "Chris, you're such a good friend. I wish I could date a guy who was just like you. Just not...you"
[08:30] <goose> :p
[08:30] <mgmuscari> mathieu: oh, and maybe you need to chmod 700 it or something
[08:30] <bryant> I turned my computer off from inside windows to cold boot into Linux. After the computer powered off it won't turn back on. The PSU has a a LED lit on the back, but after pressing the power button I'm not getting lights, fans arn't spinning, HD disks are not spinning, no beeps, not other lights but the PSU light on the box are on. Any ideas?
[08:30] <goose> mathieu: welcome. that usually happens when you download the file from someone who hasn't modded permissions on it properly.
[08:30] <mgmuscari> bryant: weird acpi mode. yank the power cable, wait a few seconds, plug it back in
[08:30] <mgmuscari> bryant: didn't shut down properly for some reason
[08:31] <bryant> I'll give it a shot
[08:31] <goose> bryant: have you fooled with your jumpers at all?
[08:31] <bryant> No goose, never played with any settings since I've had it for ~4 years, not even in BIOS
[08:31] <mathieu> btw whats chmod 700 (im a n00b)
[08:31] <mgmuscari> bryant: are you saying that once you turn it back ON you aren't getting anything?
[08:32] <spaetz> (win shr 3
[08:32] <spaetz> oops
[08:32] <p2> when ubuntu 9.10 is coming?
[08:32] <mgmuscari> mathieu: 3 digits there, each represents 3 binary bits
[08:32] <SmokeyD> hey people. when I run apt-get update on my ubuntu jaunty machine, apt-update starts fetching stuff from ftp.debian.org/sid/main and then it says "Converting acl"  "Converting alsa", etc... What is this all about
[08:32] <bryant> mgmu, its not even turning on. I press the power button and not getting anything.
[08:32] <bryant> No lights, no fans, no hard disk spins, no beeps, nothing
[08:32] <mathieu> oh...
[08:32] <SmokeyD> I have no debian repositories in /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:32] <goose> bryant: perhaps the machine just died? :|
[08:32] <mgmuscari> each set is for R, W, X for the: owner, owner's group, everyone
[08:32] <mgmuscari> mathieu: for more info, run man chmod
[08:32] <goose> er, bryant, crack open the box and make sure the processor is plugged in correctly/all the way?
[08:32] <SmokeyD> grep debian /etc/apt/* -iR doesn't return anythong
[08:32] <mgmuscari> bryant: clear your cmos?
[08:32] <bryant> Lets hope not, goose. I just got done writing two papers on it
[08:33] <bryant> And no other boxes to play with the drive on =X
[08:33] <mgmuscari> bryant: even if the machine's dead, they're still on the disk :)
[08:33] <bryant> I know mgmu =P
[08:33] <cole> anyone excited for call of duty modern warfare 2
[08:33] <mgmuscari> ah, that's a problem...
[08:33] <goose> bryant: can always yank the drive and drop it in an enclosure
[08:33] <goose> cole: I'm considering preordering it
[08:33] <goose> OH MY GOD SOMEONE SENT ME A TEXT MESSAGE
[08:33] <goose> my day has been made
[08:34] <mgmuscari> i want dragon age origins
[08:34] <mgmuscari> also, forza motorsports 3. why did i buy a ps3 instead of an xbox360???
[08:34] <mgmuscari> sorry, OT
[08:34] <cole> lol ps3 is much better
[08:34] <ziroday> !offtopic
[08:34] <mgmuscari> yes, but... but... my car is featured in the forza 3 trailer :[
[08:34] <crawler> about my previous question: i found the key in gconf-editor "/apps/gnome-screensaver/idle_activation_enabled" but does anyone know how to toggle it via terminal?
[08:35] <cole> u can do whatever u want to that thing
[08:35] <bryant> Just pulled the CMOS battery out, but I doubt its a BIOS problem. I'll try anything at this point, though.
[08:35] <mgmuscari> crawler: ostensibly that setting would be in a file somewhere...
[08:35] <SunlessHalo> yo... I'd like to ask, how could I Import my calendar and settings from my windoze Sunbird to this linux one...
[08:35] <mathieu>  realy sorry but whats chmod/how do i chmod??
[08:35] <bryant> Nothing seemed too hot when I cracked the case open
[08:35] <mgmuscari> mathieu: do you know how to open a terminal?
[08:35] <goose> mathieu: open terminal, then do: chmod a+x /path/to/file/blah
[08:35] <goose> you may need to sudo
[08:35] <mathieu> ok
[08:36] <crawler> mgmuscari: yea, i figured as much :-)  i'll do some sniffing around
[08:36] <bryant> mathieu, you can learn a lot about a command if you open a terminal and type 'man (command)' without the sing quotes or parentheses
[08:36] <mgmuscari> mathieu: i second bryant on that
[08:36] <mgmuscari> really with this guy?
[08:36] <mgmuscari> having a little too much fun with the /nick command...
[08:36] <mathieu> thanks
[08:37] <goose> bad troll is bad, mgmuscari
[08:37] <bryant> Anyone in here go to the Florida Linux Show last Saturday? You may have seen me there =D
[08:37] <sesah> hey, does anyone know when karmic koala will be in the repositories?
[08:37] <goose> but we get attacked for mentioning video games between support answers -_-
[08:37] <mgmuscari> !isitout | sesah
[08:38] <bryant> ROFL, mgmu
[08:38] <sesah> thx
[08:38] <bryant> Awsome
[08:38] <mgmuscari> lol
[08:38] <mgmuscari> i've been spending too much time in here lately
[08:38] <mgmuscari> i see what the problem is
[08:38] <mgmuscari> no ops in here right now
[08:38] <crawler> looks like i can do what's needed with gconftool-
[08:38] <crawler> gconftool-2*
[08:38] <bryant> Crawler, what are you trying to do?
[08:38] <obiwan_> iossssss
[08:39] <obiwan_> wenoassssssssssss oyee com ova karmik
[08:39] <obiwan_> sale ya o que? jeje
[08:39] <bryant> Anyone in here go to the Florida Linux Show last Saturday? You may have seen me there =D (Sorry for semi-spam)
[08:39] <mgmuscari> !es | obiwan_
[08:39] <obiwan_> lol this is the engish  chanell sryy
[08:39] <crawler> toggle the screensaver idle option via terminal, or shell script for gaming
[08:39] <kyentei> Anyone know the exact time of the 9.10 release?
[08:39] <obiwan_> sry mgmuscari i got confused hehe
[08:39] <mgmuscari> !isitout | kyentei
[08:39] <bryant> mgmu, I'm going to have to watch you with these irc commands =X
[08:39] <mgmuscari> obiwan_: np
[08:39] <mgmuscari> !ubottu | bryant
[08:39] <crawler> bryant: forgot to say your name, see aove xD
[08:40] <bryant> ROFL
[08:40] <mgmuscari> lol
[08:40] <obiwan_> well guys, my question translated to english is,... hey guys sup with karmik when's it going outttttT? :P
[08:40] <bryant> Oh, I see, Crawl
[08:40] <mgmuscari> !isitout | obiwan
[08:40] <mgmuscari> oops
[08:40] <mgmuscari> missed the underscore
[08:40] <johe|work> does 9.10 gonne be released today?
[08:40] <crawler> bryant:  yea most games disable screensaver, but zsnes isn't one of them
[08:40] <obiwan_> ok hehehe HAHAH lol it must be a really asked question cause you got a !message for it haha
[08:40] <mgmuscari> !isitout | johe|work
[08:41] <lyq99> hello
[08:41] <obiwan_> ahahaha is everybody asking the same this morning? :P
[08:41] <mgmuscari> obiwan_: yes :p
[08:41] <bryant> Why specifically through screen saver? Just quicker?
[08:41] <obiwan_> ^_ ^
[08:41] <lyq99> i have one question
[08:41] <mgmuscari> !ask | lyq99
[08:41] <shled> /join #ubuntu-release-party
[08:41] <bryant> Err, crawler, why through terminal? Just wuicker?
[08:41] <bryant> Quicker*
[08:41] <mgmuscari> lol i'm just being extremely pedantic right now
[08:41] <puff> Hi... I need a little help with manually mounting an external drive.
[08:42] <lyq99> i cannot download ubuntu 9.10
[08:42] <mgmuscari> !isitout | lyq99
[08:42] <Nickname_> morning, I am using ssmtp to send emails from my server, but when I send something from a form on the site I always get www-data as the sender
[08:42] <johe|work> mgmuscari, thx :-)
[08:42] <crawler> well, i'll include the command in the shell script i use to start zsnes
[08:42] <Nickname_> any ideas how can I change that?
[08:42] <bryant> Oh, they gave out 9.10 RC cds at the Florida Linux Show. Cannonical was there 8)
[08:42] <mgmuscari> puff: external? usb?
[08:42] <SmokeyD> man! I am running into https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/396205 THis really is annoying. Apt-get is virtually unusable now
[08:42] <puff> Yes, external, usb.
[08:42] <puff> It is not auto-mounting, for some reason.
[08:43] <crawler> bryant: lol forgot your name again, see above (i'm an irc noob if you can't tell:-)
[08:43] <puff> I'm seeing it show up in dmesg as sdc/
[08:43] <bryant> Oh, I see what you did there =]
[08:43] <puff> And I have a /dev/sdc and a /dev/sdc1
[08:43] <mgmuscari> puff: can you manually mount it using mount?
[08:43] <bryant> Crawler, you familiar with bash? If so, very nice =]
[08:43] <psicobra> TecnoBrat, you still here
[08:43] <mgmuscari> sdc1 would be the partition on the disk
[08:44] <puff> mgmuscari: Well, mount -a doesn't do anything.
[08:44] <sonny> hope canonical really2 prepare for tonight crowd : downloading new karmic
[08:44] <mgmuscari> puff: try this: sudo mount /dev/sdc1 /path/to/whatever
[08:44] <mgmuscari> sonny: that's what bittorrent is for :)
[08:44] <mgmuscari> why am i still awake at 4:44am?
[08:44] <crawler> bryant: not too much, i'm still learning the basics.  but i have it to where it kills compiz, then loads metacity..and when i close zsnes, nestopia etc. it turns compiz back on
[08:44] <puff> mgmuscari: Cool, that worked.  Thanks!
[08:45] <bryant> Alright... time to try the box again mgmu.
[08:45] <mgmuscari> puff: np :)
[08:45] <mgmuscari> bryant: depending on your irc client... !tab
[08:45] <awilkins> !isitout
[08:45] <mgmuscari> hm
[08:45] <mgmuscari> thought there was an entry for tab
[08:45] <alex__> v
[08:45] <mgmuscari> !tab
[08:45] <mgmuscari> there
[08:45] <mgmuscari> !tab | bryant
[08:45] <FloodBot2> mgmuscari: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:45] <mgmuscari> lol
[08:46] <sonny> anybody knows whether new karmic is also ready from local repositories tomorrow?
[08:46] <mgmuscari> now i feel bad...
[08:46] <psicobra> hi guys i am trying to mount a samba share on start up via fstab and it works great except the permissions arent what i need them to be
[08:46] <psicobra> i have //PSICOBRA-PC/F /media/movies smbfs    uid=1000,gid=1000,mode=0666 0 0
[08:46] <mgmuscari> !isitout | sonny ... ostensibly, yes
[08:46] <psicobra> witch sets it has my folder witch is good but i need myth tv to be able to access it
[08:46] <psicobra> does any one knoe what that should be
[08:47] <mgmuscari> psicobra: i was dealing with that the other day
[08:47] <mrkiko> Hi all! I noticed ubuntu within grub passes to the kernel the root device in form of UUID:...; does the kernel need a special patch to understand this?
[08:47] <bryant> mgmuscari: Ah, thanks... Didn't know that. Anyway, box didn't boot after BIOS cleared. (Yes, I made sure power cable was out =P)
[08:47] <MarkGil> hi, I am trying to setup spamassassin, and trying to work out how to integrate http://www.malware.com.br/cgi/submit?action=list_sa into my sa-update script
[08:47] <psicobra> mgmuscari, good so you can help
[08:47] <Cahan> would 740MB free on / be enough to dist-upgrade?
[08:47] <mgmuscari> psicobra: is myth tv running as a different user?
[08:47] <sonny> ubottu : thx, cuz last time upgrading my 8.10 to 9.04 i asked to switch my repository to main ubuntu server  :-)
[08:47] <psicobra> to be honest i don't know i have just this second installed it
[08:48] <crawler> got it: "gconftool-2 --set /apps/gnome-screensaver/idle_activation_enabled --type bool 0"
[08:48] <mgmuscari> fyi first i made sure that /media/music (in my case) had the right permissions on it... before mounting
[08:48] <karbo> is it out yet?
[08:48] <crawler> so i just change bool 0, to bool 1 when the program closes xD
[08:48] <mgmuscari> crawler: nice
[08:48] <mgmuscari> !isitout | karbo
[08:48] <karbo> oooh it's as funny as never before every sixth month
[08:48] <crawler> mgmuscari: heh, i love linux so much xD
[08:48] <mathieu> im really embarrassed to say this but besids your help i still cant worh it out. could you give me exactly what i should type knowing that im trying to make a deb pakage of: /home/mathieu/Desktop/ati-driver-installer-9-9-x86.x86_64.run ? sorry to bother you so much
[08:49] <psicobra> mgmuscari, ?
[08:49] <mrkiko> if someone has the reply,please PM me - I can't intercept messages easily. thank you
[08:49] <sonny> sonny quit for  a while ....
[08:49] <mgmuscari> mathieu: i'm pretty sure that the fglrx installer has an option to create a deb when you run it... from that path, run: chmod 700 ati-driver* and then run ./ati-driver...
[08:50] <mgmuscari> psicobra: i'm not totally comprehending what you're trying to do and what your problem is
[08:50] <mgmuscari> you want mythtv to be able to read/write the folder?
[08:50] <crawler> mathieu: sometimes it's easier to just right-click the file, go to "properties > permissions" and allow execution..
[08:50] <mgmuscari> crawler: lol i didn't even think of that...
[08:51] <bryant> Anyone in here go to the Florida Linux Show last Saturday? You may have seen me there =D (Sorry for semi-spam)
[08:51] <lenovo> say ho! if youre at the exeter hotel
[08:51] <psicobra> mgmuscari, well read mostly but best for it to do both?
[08:51] <crawler> mgmuscari: xD it's good to learn from the terminal first though
[08:51] <sodawater> sonny switch user name to sodawater
[08:51] <mgmuscari> psicobra: well make sure that you have rw permissions set up on your samba server
[08:52] <mgmuscari> psicobra: also you need to create a file with the username and password in it if it's password protected
[08:52] <psicobra> mgmuscari, how?
[08:52] <psicobra> i have the folder mounted via samba in the fstab like this
[08:52] <mgmuscari> psicobra: what are you using as your samba server?
[08:52] <psicobra> /PSICOBRA-PC/F /media/movies smbfs    uid=1000,gid=1000,mode=0666 0 0
[08:52] <mgmuscari> so you're running samba on your pc...
[08:52] <psicobra> what ever comesd with the mythbuntu cd
[08:53] <sodawater> I am looking for M$ Netmeeting desktop sharing replacement in Ubuntu, anybody knows good and compatible one?
[08:53] <mgmuscari> i don't know how to configure the samba server offhand... i have a maxtor central axis
[08:53] <psicobra> i tried changing mode to 0777 that broke
[08:53] <Flannel> sodawater: Ekiga
[08:53] <raj> sodawater: Ekiga is probably the best bet
[08:54] <gsevil> how can I create ubuntu repository on Centos?
[08:54] <mgmuscari> alright, 5am. i'm going to get to sleep so that i can get up and drive around for a while before class
[08:54] <sodawater> Flannel : I tried it once, and work perfectly with text chat, but i have trouble with desktop sharing. have u try it also?
[08:54] <mgmuscari> 'night room
[08:54] <psicobra> night
[08:55] <raj> speaking of Desktop Sharing, Empathy, the new default IM client in Karmic, is supposed to include that feature
[08:55] <Flannel> sodawater: No, I haven't.  But Ekiga is an h.323 client, just like netmeeting
[08:55] <amorphous_> should apache give me a list of files int he /var/www/ directory by default?
[08:56] <MinusSeven> it's coming
[08:56] <MinusSeven> sorry, wrong channel
[08:56] <stoned> when is a karmic?
[08:57] <sodawater> Flannel : yup that's true. I think it will work perfectly with voice or text, but cuz i still dont find the perfect configuration maybe it's just my configuration error
[08:57] <stoned> tomorrow>?
[08:57] <Flannel> stoned: Within 27 hours.  See #ubuntu-release-party
[08:57] <stoned> i have kde3 remix
[08:57] <stoned> should i upgrade?
[08:57] <alexander_> hallo
[08:57] <stoned> I only like ubuntu + kde3
[08:57] <sodawater> anybody knows why karmic switched it's default im from pidgin to empathy?
[08:58] <my6e> exit
[08:58] <sodawater> is it better/
[08:58] <sodawater> ?
[08:58] <my6e> exit
[08:58] <stoned> sodawater, find out
[08:58] <stoned> my6e, /quit
[08:58] <barneystinson> awesome
[08:58] <sodawater> stoned : yeah i will, but right know i am pretty pleased with pidgin
[08:58] <barneystinson> alexander got a small penis
[08:58] <stoned> sodawater, ok use pidgin
[08:59] <stoned> barneystinson, no one cares.
[08:59] <andy> n,vhgvöuk
[08:59] <andy> kjp
[08:59] <andy> kj
[08:59] <andy> k
[08:59] <andy> k
[08:59] <andy> k
[08:59] <andy> k
[08:59] <FloodBot2> andy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:59] <barneystinson> hannes
[08:59] <barneystinson> alex
[08:59] <Inferus> hai all
[08:59] <patrickT> lo
[08:59] <Wez> 9.10 is ouy today right?
[08:59] <alexander_> hannes stinkt
[08:59] <Wez> out
[08:59] <sodawater> Inferus : hi too
[08:59] <Inferus> was playing with ubuntu 9.1 last night, where is my dockbar!
[08:59] <jtnl> get ubuntu 9.10?
[08:59] <PLO-6351> !isitout
[09:00] <ziroday> Wez: within the next 27 hours, check out #ubuntu-release-party
[09:00] <barneystinson> how is horny?
[09:00] <alexander_> hörsall oder was
[09:00] <andy_> asdfh++
[09:00] <alexander_> ihr habt alle nen kleinen
[09:00] <ziroday> !de | alexander_
[09:00] <Inferus> anyone know the answer? :(
[09:00] <bergjoha> ser
[09:00] <bergjoha> ser
[09:00] <bergjoha> ser
[09:00] <FloodBot2> bergjoha: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:00] <Inferus> How do you show the dockbar... the one that looks just like OSX's
[09:01] <alexander_> sorry
[09:01] <barneystinson> hey hannes hey whats up
[09:01] <Mads|Online> :P
[09:01] <barneystinson> can you make my body rock
[09:01] <kokos> linux-pl
[09:01] <jtnl> ubuntu 9.10 desktop?
[09:01] <barneystinson> hhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnneeeeeeeessssss
[09:01] <ziroday> barneystinson: ?
[09:01] <barneystinson> what?
[09:01] <bergjoha> sers
[09:01] <bergjoha> martin da
[09:01] <barneystinson> ja
[09:02] <sodawater> Inferus : perhaps you accidentally uninstalled your dockbar when upgrading to 9.10 then
[09:02] <alexander_> you have a small dig
[09:02] <ziroday> barneystinson: do you have a support question we can help you with?
[09:02] <bergjoha> na also geht doch
[09:02] <bergjoha> ihr assi sers
[09:02] <bergjoha> Hello
[09:02] <lukasz> Hello
[09:02] <H20> broadcast the party ...` Ubuntu `
[09:02] <Inferus> sodawater: it was the beta release from ubuntu.com
[09:02] <Inferus> i was running it from cd
[09:02] <DeSian_> hi, what is happen with ubuntu karmic, i have the last alpha installed but i can't download or upgrade the system apt-get update && apt-get upgrade don't play any error, but by installing package "not package found pidgin" ...etc
[09:02] <barneystinson> blitzkrieg mit dem fleischgewehr
[09:02] <lodder> Help, I have setup a transparent squid server and now I don't have any internet access on the dhcp clients changed all the need configs
[09:02] <lukasz> What time exactly is karmick to be released?
[09:02] <bergjoha> Alex how are you
[09:02] <ziroday> DeSian_: ask in #ubuntu+1
[09:02] <ziroday> lukasz: with 27 hours
[09:02] <DeSian_> ziroday,
[09:03] <SunlessHalo> yo, please is it possible to import my windoze Sunbird calendar & settings into the current Sunbirdu running on Ubuntu Karmic?
[09:03] <barneystinson> fuck you bergjoha
[09:03] <alexander_> my name is alex
[09:03] <sodawater> Inferus : or just like the rest of us, let's wait the final release of Karmic in next 27 hours  :-
[09:03] <H20> 27 h usa time ?
[09:03] <alexander_> hallo
[09:03] <alexander_> miau
[09:03] <barneystinson> fuck you bergjoha
[09:03] <sodawater> H20 : in any local time  :-)
[09:03] <bergjoha> fuck your mother martin
[09:03] <bergjoha> ... and then fuck you all
[09:04] <CVirus> lol
[09:04] <Inferus> sodawater: huh? Is that why I wouldn't have the dockbar?
[09:04] <jerknextdoor> !language
[09:04] <H20> nice i m look for Sweden pirate time :)
[09:04] <H20> looking ^
[09:05] <lodder> Help, I have setup a transparent squid server and now I don't have any internet access on the dhcp clients changed all the need configs
[09:05] <cristiano> hello
[09:06] <Catalin> did the last version of Ubuntu was release?
[09:06] <sodawater> Inferus : I am sure it is not, but I also have the same problem with other application when upgrading 8.04 to 8.10
[09:06] <bigbrovar> odder> u might want to ask that at the #ubuntu-server
[09:06] <ziroday> !isitout | Catalin
[09:07] <agus> help me how to remove gnome
[09:07] <Catalin> 10q
[09:07] <ziroday> agus: and replace it with?
[09:07] <Xteven> hello
[09:07] <Xteven> I'm looking for a way to keep track of all the papers I read, I would like to add notes to them and assign labels to them
[09:08] <Xteven> is there something like that in ubuntu ?
[09:08] <agus> I have installed xubuntu-desktop, can I remove my gnome?
[09:08] <ziroday> !purekde | agus
[09:08] <sodawater> agus : just make sure you already have the replacement first, KDE  for instance
[09:08] <Flannel> !purexfce | agus
[09:08] <ziroday> agus: just do sudo aptitude remove ubuntu-desktop
[09:08] <ziroday> Flannel: oh neat
[09:09] <agus> is xfce depend on gnome?
[09:09] <sodawater> agus : no
[09:09] <joaopinto> !puregnome
[09:09] <om26er> agus, yes
[09:09] <jcdutton> Why isn't the latest firefox version in karmic ?
[09:09] <bigbrovar> agus> xfce is based on gtk
[09:09] <joaopinto> !karmic | jcdutton
[09:09] <om26er> !lxde
[09:10] <agus> so I cannot remove gnome to change xubuntu?
[09:10] <om26er> !purexfce
[09:10] <BlackFate> jcdutton, the day is still running.. patience
[09:10] <Flannel> agus: You can.  That link shows you how
[09:11] <jcdutton> BlackFate, what do you mean? The day is still running. Firefox 3.5.4 was released yesterday
[09:11] <jcdutton> but karmic only has 3.5.3
[09:11] <om26er> jcdutton, 3.5.4 might come a few days later
[09:11] <ziroday> jcdutton:
[09:11] <BlackFate> jcdutton, new version will come in karmic too
[09:11] <indus> will firefox  3.6 be in karmic?
[09:11] <sodawater> hope karmic have special feature : option to change the placement of osd-notify
[09:11] <ziroday> jcdutton: 3.5.4 is unlikely to get into karmic, however it may become available in a PPA sometime soon
[09:12] <mrfelton> so, what time does KArmic come out?!
[09:12] <ziroday> sodawater: it doesn't
[09:12] <ziroday> !isitout | sodawater
[09:12] <Mad_Dud> hello
[09:12] <ziroday> eek sorry sodawater
[09:12] <agus> are some default application like synaptic brought by gnome?
[09:12] <indus> will firefox  3.6 be in karmic?
[09:12] <bao_> you are all fool, 3.5.5 will come right after 3.5.4
[09:12] <om26er> indus, you can install it in ubuntu karmic but karmic will never replace firefox 3.5.x
[09:12] <Fri13> Hi, what time the ubuntu gets released today?
[09:13] <om26er> indus, apt-get install firefox-3.6
[09:13] <sodawater> ziroday :   :-(
[09:13] <jcdutton> ziroday, why is there a delay between mozilla releasing a firefox version and ubuntu picking it up ?
[09:13] <ziroday> !latest | jcdutton
[09:13] <indus> om26er: its available as a separate package?
[09:13] <bao_> will firefox 3.6 work with my banking web site?
[09:13] <indus> yeah right, ubuntu people know more about firefox than the mozilla devs themselves
[09:13] <om26er> indus, just the name of firefox 3.6 and it says candidate not availble
[09:13] <jcdutton> ubottu, the firefox 3.5.4 is a security bug fix over 3.5.3
[09:14] <ziroday> jcdutton: Ubuntu is *not* rolling release
[09:14] <indus> lame excuse really
[09:14] <generic> bao_: no ifact you would be putting youself at a serious risk by doing so
[09:14] <SunlessHalo> bao_: Mr Murphy said... Thing that can go wrong, go wrong
[09:14] <Inferus> sodawater: no the dockbar didnt even show up in the first place !
[09:14] <indus> can someone refer a few rolling releases to me
[09:14] <agus> so GTK's app need gnome
[09:14] <Flannel> indus: debian testing
[09:14] <indus> Flannel: non debian ones
[09:14] <ziroday> indus: Arch Linux
[09:15] <indus> gulp
[09:15] <indus> a little easier like ubuntu but roling
[09:15] <rww> Flannel: Debian Testing isn't really rolling release. Unstable, perhaps?
[09:15] <om26er> indus, sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-mozilla-security/ppa && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install firefox-3.6
[09:15] <arnsmart> Hello to you all.
[09:15] <sodawater> Inferus : ist cairo dockbar or else ?
[09:15] <om26er> indus, sorry gave you wrong repo
[09:16] <indus> om26er: dont worry ill figure it out
[09:16] <indus> i think ill swtich to suse linux now, tired with ubuntu
[09:16] <om26er> indus, i tried suse for a day and it sucked for me
[09:16] <UncleAndy> Hi, all!
[09:17] <UncleAndy> Who can help me? I need do update from ubuntu 9.04 to ubuntu 9.10. But I don't know ha.
[09:17] <indus> UncleAndy: wait a day and you will be offered the upgrade
[09:18] <ziroday> UncleAndy: karmic is not out yet, go party in #ubuntu-release-party
[09:18] <indus> UncleAndy: or just type sudo update-manager -d
[09:18] <indus> UncleAndy: that command can be run now too and you will get upgraded unless the servers are slow
[09:21] <UncleAndy> Thanks all!
[09:22] <New_Wind> regards
[09:22] <New_Wind> so, how do you think. then we can see 9.10 release?
[09:22] <agus> so GTK's app need gnome?
[09:22] <Flannel> !isitout | New_Wind
[09:23] <New_Wind> ah, i see )
[09:25] <Mads|Online> :D
[09:25] <slabbeh> Is 9.10 released? And how do I upgrade?
[09:25] <ubuntu2> ubuntu 9.10 released or not
[09:25] <agus> gnome depends on gtk or gtk depends on gnome?
[09:25] <Mads|Online> Not yet
[09:25] <Flannel> ubuntu2, slabbeh: No.  It'll be released within the next 26 hours.  Check out #ubuntu-release-party for updates/questions/etc
[09:25] <Mads|Online> :)
 Hi all! I have small problem with b43 driver on Ubutnu Linux. We have crappy access points in our university and my laptop gets disconnected every 3 minutes.
 it is really annoying and I have no idea what could be the problem.
 I don't have such problem on windows.
 and I am not only one who gets this kind of problem on linux. Every one who uses linux here get the same problem.
 Possibl solutions?
[09:27] <FloodBot2> Crazy_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:27] <goose> woah
[09:27] <goose> bad paste is bad
[09:27] <Crazy_> sorry.
[09:27] <Crazy_> sou any ideas what to do>
[09:27] <Crazy_> ?
[09:27] <goose> which distro are you using?
[09:28] <goose> !isitout | slabbeh
[09:29] <jcdutton> Crazy_, it the problem limited to b43 wireless cards? Are other Linux laptops ok that have other cards ?
[09:30] <Balsaq> can't get printer to print in abiword? configured it and it did do i "test" print?
[09:32] <Crazy_> jcdutton, no. every linux user has those problems
[09:33] <goose> Crazy_: what distro are you using?
[09:33] <Crazy_> goose, distro is not important. I am using Karmic, my friends use Jaunty and Debian lenny. We all have the same problem
[09:34] <Crazy_> goose, I told you I am using Karmic
[09:34] <goose> Crazy_: on second thought, it's probably the routers they're using not liking unix
[09:34] <Crazy_> But I had the same problem with Jaunty
[09:34] <goose> do people with macs have the same problem?
[09:35] <Crazy_> wait, I will ask someone with mac.
[09:35] <goose> I've found few routers aside from Cisco/Linksys that genuinely _work_ with unix OS's
[09:36] <Crazy_> goose, sorry noone with Mac around :D
[09:37] <goose> well, that doesn't prove or disprove my theory then :|
[09:37] <goose> I'm willing to bet it's just whatever networking system your school uses sucks at unix
[09:38] <coz_> goose,   unix ...unlike modern linux  distributions..are still very picky about hardware
[09:38] <goose> I used to ping all the time on my old D-Link router. Finally forked out the money for a Cisco router, never had a problem since.
[09:38] <coz_> goose,   solaris .,  fro example...one of my favorite unix flavlors  is not great when dealing with  hardware
[09:38] <Degot> hi, all... i`ve installed kvm virt-manager... and created 2 vm`s... i can ping them from host (host  -> guest), but i can`t ping from guest to guest ...any ideas?
[09:39] <goose> Degot: any firewalls enabled? are they all on the same network?
[09:39] <icarus-c> Degot: vlan?
[09:39] <PAgore> Does somebody know when I can download ubuntu 9.10? :)
[09:39] <icarus-c> PAgore: any time
[09:39] <goose> PAgore: www.ubuntu.com
[09:39] <Degot> goose, icarus-c: they are in one network (isolated network)
[09:39] <icarus-c> PAgore: come on man, this is free and open source software
[09:40] <PAgore> y i know ^^
[09:40] <goose> PAgore: http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/9.10/
[09:41] <goose> icarus-c: does one machine have a "real" IP assigned to it, etc?
[09:42] <icarus-c> goose: depends on the setup.  i use NAT myself
[09:44] <Bear10_> Is it possible to know where ubuntu is crashing in a install? It just randomly stops
[09:44] <phphorse> hi, how many hours will the ubuntu-release take?
[09:45] <goose> Bear10_: sounds like a scratched / burned with an error CD
[09:45] <Flannel> phphorse: It'll be released sometime within the next 27 hours.  #ubuntu-release-party for questions/updates/etc.  Thanks
[09:45] <goose> may I suggest using a USB drive, or if you use a CD, burn at slowest possible speed and verify
[09:45] <phphorse> Flannel: thx.
[09:45] <Clepto> silly question thats been asked a billion times but meh ill ask it anyhow... anyone know whats up with 9.10?
[09:45] <goose> !isitout | Clepto
[09:45] <alex__> Что за?
[09:46] <furuno> !id | furuno
[09:46] <k1gwb> What's Karma+1 called again?
[09:46] <Clepto> thank you
[09:46] <goose> should just set ubottu to trigger any sentence with "9.10" to reply "isitout"
[09:46] <goose> anyways, sun is rising, bed time I think. nn
[09:46] <Bear10_> goose, its not though
[09:47] <Bear10_> goose, i tried multiple burns, diff speeds
[09:47] <Bear10_> i also tried different pieces of hardware and each one causes freeze elsewhere im not syure whats wrong
[09:47] <goose> Bear10_: boot in live CD and install via terminal?
[09:48] <fahadsadah> Kind of a weird problem.
[09:48] <andro_> any one here?
[09:48] <make0rbreak> hey
[09:48] <fahadsadah> I did rm -rf / on a Wubi install.
[09:48] <Bear10_> goose, ill try
[09:48] <goose> fahadsadah: why would you do such a thing?
[09:48] <fahadsadah> Now I can't uninstall Wubi in Windows.
[09:48] <furuno> andro_ : I'm two, not one :)
[09:48] <fahadsadah> goose: Boredom.
[09:48] <goose> fahadsadah: which windows OS?
[09:48] <fahadsadah> 7
[09:49] <goose> fahadsadah: delete the C:\Ubuntu\ folder
[09:49] <fahadsadah> I thought it would be like rm -rf / on a real Ubuntu.
[09:49] <fahadsadah> goose: It doesn't leave anything in the registry, or something?
[09:49] <goose> fahadsadah: then right click my computer, find the "boot" section, and disable the "Select OS at startup" option
[09:49] <fahadsadah> I've cleaned it from the BCD menu.
[09:49] <fahadsadah> And from the add/remove programs thingy.
[09:49] <goose> fahadsadah: nothing bad, no. residue that it was installed, but you won't get any error messages or anything.
[09:50] <Boeby> does anybody know something about "switchable graphics" in Linux ?
[09:50] <furuno> Boeby : do you mean switching from your dedicated gpu to integrated gpu?
[09:51] <Boeby> Furuno: yes..
[09:51] <Boeby> I have a T400 with an integrated Intel-graphic and a ATI-graphic
[09:52] <Boeby> T400 = Lenovo Thinkpad..
[09:52] <icarus-c> Boeby: if i were you, i would try to remove the ATI one :P
[09:53] <Boeby> :D
[09:53] <Boeby> to work with an external display, i have to use the ati..
[09:53] <icarus-c> oops
[09:53] <Boeby> to save power, i should use the intel..
[09:53] <jezlee> Ok, it Thursday - when will new ubuntu be released?
[09:54] <furuno> Boeby : quick talk to Mr.Google give me this : http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Njc2Nw
[09:54] <furuno> Boeby : but it's a 2008 article
[09:56] <tonny> !isitout
[09:56] <Guest604> Hey all - when is the release coming out? its Thursday the 29th and midday in South Africa??
[09:56] <furuno> !isitout | Guest604
[09:56] <Boeby> Furuno - Thanks for your talk with mr. google.. :)
[09:57] <furuno> Boeby : seems like it's unsupported yet :/
[09:57] <Boeby> yep
[09:57] <Boeby> :(
[09:57] <Tetsu1> !isitout
[09:57] <Guest604> thank you
[10:00] <Tetsu1> !isitout
[10:02] <Whitt> I'm looking for help with grub, would anybody here be able to help.  My system refuses to boot any kernel higher than 2.6.27
[10:02] <indus> why is the ubuntu website still mentioning ubuntu beta when rc is out
[10:03] <mouse{Linux}> it hasn't been officialy released
[10:03] <furuno> indus : but you get the RC for download
[10:03] <Tetsu1> Patient
[10:03] <Tetsu1> Patient
[10:04] <Tetsu1> !isitout
[10:04] <flower> I'm searching for a 2.6.31 kernel for 8.04, can somebody help me with that?
[10:05] <Tetsu1> flower Waiting,maybe google can solve it
[10:05] <furuno> the party channel getting crazy, i need somewhere to hide :/
[10:06] <mouse{Linux}> in here seems good :x
[10:06] <turshu> hello
[10:07] <invitingdopeman> fo real tho
[10:07] <invitingdopeman> fuckin crazy
[10:07] <invitingdopeman> damn 1000 peeps in here
[10:08] <invitingdopeman> identify
[10:08] <nawaflol> Yes !
[10:08] <tominglis> Awesome!
[10:08] <J_P> hi all, why ubuntu finish count and still are show "coming soon"?
[10:08] <turshu> teah
[10:08] <mouse{Linux}> 1603
[10:08] <nawaflol> is still have coming soon ?
[10:08] <Fish__> J_P, I guess it's coming soon...
[10:09] <turshu> :)
[10:09] <Fish__> :D
[10:09] <nawaflol> too bad !
[10:09] <turshu> suppose to :)
[10:09] <furuno> !isitout | J_P
[10:09] <J_P> Fish__: ahahah so coming soon in few hours..
[10:09] <turshu> hope so :P
[10:09] <Fish__> I hope
[10:09] <Fish__> I wanna test the new features :D
[10:09] <Fish__> but I don't want to go to beta
[10:09] <Fish__> and upgrade it to final after an hour agin xD
[10:10] <tarzeau> i wonder what's going to happen with the curves at http://popcon.ubuntu.com/ within a week, or month....
[10:10] <psicobra> guys i'm having problems i have sucessfully mounted a samba share on start up using fstab but it needs to be accessable via mythtv i change the permissions
[10:10] <turshu> i just test it and it's great but has some bugs
[10:10] <turshu> :)
[10:10] <nawaflol> i tried openbox in the new 9.10 beta didn't work ! Hope this upgrade helps !
[10:10] <jony123> whats the netstat command to find out whats listening on what ports?
[10:10] <tarzeau> jony123: netstat -plunt ?
[10:10] <tarzeau> or generally -na
[10:11] <turshu> nawaflol: did u tried awesome wm before?
[10:11] <furuno> jony123 : netstat -a if i recall, or just man netstat :)
[10:11] <nikolam> I just wander.. what apps yopu guys actually use to plan tasks? And I don`t talk about calendar, alams, but to plan some operations, linke "this action or resource depends on this and that" kind of planning aplication
[10:11] <llutz> jony123: netstat -tulpen
[10:11] <nawaflol> i didn't want it ! i want to test on my hardware !
[10:11] <jony123> ok thanks
[10:11] <vdp_ubuntu> hi, I am using ubuntu 9.04 and want to create a usb startup disk.  however when I use the option in the administration manu, I get error cannnot determine partition.  What cold be the reason?
[10:12] <almoxarife> gant?
[10:12] <Ramunas> vdp_ubuntu: you have multiple partitions on the usb drive?
[10:12] <nawaflol> hmmm ?!
[10:12] <furuno> nikolam : I use my whiteboard beside my PC, and Planner for everything else (sudo apt-get install planner)
[10:12] <vdp_ubuntu> Ramunas: no, I don't have multipal partitions
[10:13] <ppine> What hour is Karmic going to be released ?
[10:13] <nawaflol> Did anyone tried Openbox with his Karmic Kola
[10:13] <jony123> ok now its saying sendmail is on port 25 which is bad because then postfix can't bind to that port.  But when i say apt-get remove it says that 'Package sendmail is not installed, so not removed'
[10:13] <furuno> !isitout | ppine
[10:13] <Ramunas> ppine: no specific time, just sometime on 29th
[10:13] <Whitt> the 29th is almost over here in NZ!
[10:13] <ppine> Is the iso different then the RC iso ?
[10:14] <jony123> tcp        0      0 127.0.0.1:25            0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      9847/sendmail: MTA:
[10:14] <Ramunas> Whitt: so what? its just beginning over here :P
[10:14] <furuno> ppine : I suppose...
[10:14] <isola73dsh33p> 9.10 is not out yet =_=
[10:14] <nawaflol> Nope !
[10:14] <asdqwe> how to run winbox in ubuntu desktop?.
[10:14] <marxus> how's the Karmic release?still no link from ubuntu site
[10:14] <ppine> i am already running 9.10 for a month orso, dist-upgrade will bring me to the same as the final isnt that right ?
[10:15] <Tetsu1> !isitout
[10:15] <nawaflol> but you have to be the Main Server its better !
[10:15] <asdqwe> channel /topic
[10:15] <furuno> asdqwe : do you mean running a windows on a vm in ubuntu?
[10:16] <asdqwe> vm ubuntu..
[10:16] <marxus> is the RC version of Karmic good to go?i want to install it tonight
[10:16] <nawaflol> Try VirtualBox Its better ?!
[10:16] <furuno> asdqew : ?
[10:16] <furuno> asdqew : maybe try use virtualbox?
[10:16] <marxus> but much better if will be installing the final release
[10:16] <nawaflol> VirtualBox Is Easy and Stable !
[10:17] <furuno> asdqew : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox
[10:18] <marxus> i thought Karmic would be released 29th of October
[10:18] <furuno> !isitout | marxus
[10:18] <D3RGPS31> I want Ubuntu 9.10!
[10:18] <nawaflol> i'm geting Xubuntu 8.10 for an old Machine i have ,i'm going to make it a proxy server !
[10:18] <Tetsu1> Patient
[10:18] <mipz0r> lol
[10:18] <xt28> !topic
[10:18] <furuno> D3RGPS31 : me, too, check the #ubuntu-release-party :)
[10:19] <mipz0r> Ubuntu 9.10
[10:19] <mipz0r> ./exec -o cat /etc/issue.net
[10:19] <mipz0r> ;D
[10:19] <D3RGPS31> furuno: thank you xD
[10:19] <asdqwe> furuno : u know winbox?.
[10:19] <furuno> actually, that channel is quite giving me a headache recently
[10:20] <vix> im about to download ubuntu 6.10 just wondering if everything works now in the 64bit ver, like flash and java and all tht or will i hv to break my head again for it
[10:20] <furuno> asdqwe : a box that always win :) ?
[10:20] <furuno> vix : 6.10 ? do you mean 9.10?
[10:20] <vix> ye
[10:20] <vix> *
[10:20] <vix> :)
[10:20] <asdqwe> furuno : winbox for mikrotik... in my ubuntu desktop no run...
[10:20] <furuno> vix : of course you still need to reinstall them, more info on 9.10 at #ubuntu+1 :)
[10:21] <xt28> When I enter "/topic", all I get is "Unsupported command"...
[10:21] <vix> im doing a fresh install
[10:21] <turshu>  /msg ChanServ REGISTER #ubuntu
[10:21] <marxus> is the RC version of Karmic, good to go?
[10:21] <Ramunas> marxus: running it right now ;)
[10:22] <bmsatierf> Hello! So when will we able to download the 9.10 Release?
[10:22] <furuno> !isitout | bmsatierf
[10:22] <marxus> Ramunas : what's your feedback then?
[10:22] <CopyWriter> hi all where can i download the new buntu
[10:22] <Ramunas> marxus: works fine :)
[10:22] <vix> "/join ubuntu +1" didnt work
[10:22] <furuno> it shouldn't be brown :)
[10:22] <CopyWriter> ok i see the last messages
[10:22] <bmsatierf> Oh, thanks!
[10:22] <furuno> vix : #ubuntu+1 << just click, no space between text
[10:23] <marxus> Ramunas : great, i'm a LAMP developer so I want to install it if it works very fine..
[10:23] <marxus> Ramunas : thank you for the info
[10:24] <Tetsu1> !isitout
[10:24] <furuno> marxus : I'm using XAMPP just fine
[10:24] <Tetsu1> ubottu is a stupid bot!
[10:25] <Ramunas> marxus: well, it took me 2 reinstalls to get it working, but its just fine now :)
[10:26] <marxus> Ramunas : what you have installed specifically?
[10:26] <Ramunas> marxus: as in apps?
[10:26] <xt28> Hmm. How do I enter IRC commands in Empathy?
[10:26] <marxus> Ramunas : yep
[10:26] <grawity> xt28: Try the box below?
[10:27] <Sacro> when's 9.10 out?
[10:27] <futurechimp> is it out?
[10:27] <DB42> Sacro, sometime today
[10:27] <furuno> !isitout | Sacro
[10:27] <mykel> !isitout
[10:27] <Ramunas> marxus: amarok, opera, skype, filezilla, not much else yet
[10:27] <mesula> Today.
[10:27] <xt28> grawity: If I enter "/topic" into that box, I just get "Unsupported command".
[10:28] <icarus-c> xt28: what is your IRC client
[10:28] <grawity> xt28: Huh. And I thought Pidgin is the worst IRC client ever... Is there /raw or /quote?
[10:28] <xt28> icarus-c: Empathy.
[10:28] <grawity> xt28: Or, seriously, get a better client
[10:28] <icarus-c> oooo
[10:28] <marxus> Ramunas : does skype works with great audio?
[10:28] <JacksonBrown> when will 9.10 drop?
[10:28] <Ramunas> marxus: you mean pulse audio?
[10:28] <|chris|> am using kvirc in ubuntu and works fine
[10:28] <grawity> JacksonBrown: Real Soon Now™
[10:28] <marxus> Ramunas: yes, definitely
[10:29] <mykel> here http://mirror.lupaworld.com/ubuntu/releases/9.10/ ?
[10:29] <asdqwe> jacksonbrown:please see above
[10:29] <zetheroo1> everyone flood to the release party
[10:29] <dehaani_> release party is chaos
[10:29] <raik> is 9.10 out?
[10:29] <banisterfiend> hey guys, im going away for a while and i want to setup this box so i cant ssh to it and use it. How do i do that?
[10:29] <marxus> mykel : is that final list?
[10:29] <Tetsu1> !isitout
[10:30] <zetheroo1> dehaani_: as it should be
[10:30] <mouse{Linux}> so you can, you mean?
[10:30] <zetheroo1> :)
[10:30] <llutz> banisterfiend: remove sshd :)
[10:30] <xt28> grawity: I am currently running the 9.10 beta live cd... I shall get a better client after installation. Any recommendations?
[10:30] <dehaani> btw does anyone know roughly how many bugs are fixed since RC?
[10:30] <grawity> xt28: irssi
[10:30] <banisterfiend> llutz: im a bit of a noob when it comes to this kind of thing...how do i go about configuring my system so i can do that?
[10:30] <FPtje> Where is ubuntu 9.10 is it released this day?
[10:30] <grawity> xt28: If you find terminal-based programs confusing, Xchat is awesome
[10:31] <xt28> grawity: thanks!
[10:31] <Ramunas> marxus: don't take my word, x server just reloaded randomly
[10:31] <Tetsu1> !isitout
[10:31] <llutz> banisterfiend: sudo aptitude install openssh-server
[10:31] <Tetsu1> !isitout
[10:31] <Salvad1> Is 9.10 final for download?
[10:31] <FPtje> lol tetsu1 xD
[10:31] <marxus> mykel is giving us the link..is this real?
[10:31] <Tetsu1> Darn Pidgin
[10:31] <FPtje> not yet salvad1, but it should have been today
[10:31] <llutz> banisterfiend: if your box is behind a router, make sure portforwarding to port22 (default) is set up
[10:32] <Sagaci> Salvad1: theoretically, yes. practically, no
[10:32] <Tetsu1> !isitout
[10:32] <marxus> Mykel : please advise your link
[10:32] <banisterfiend> llutz: ok thanks, it's installing now...can i get you to ssh to it to check if it's working? (or tell me how i check itmyself)
[10:32] <xt28> Tetsu1: Getting nervous? =)
[10:32] <mykel> marxus, huh
[10:32] <sclytrack> Is Marc Shuttleworth still in bed? Somebody tell him to wake up and release the freaking thing.
[10:33] <llutz> banisterfiend: better check yourself, ssh -l user host
[10:33] <Tetsu1> xt28 my Pidgin got someproblems
[10:33] <llutz> banisterfiend: never give anyone you don't know ssh-access to your boxes
[10:33] <dehaani> pidgin is old school now
[10:33] <banisterfiend> llutz: but will that let me check whether or not that router thingy is blocking something?
[10:33] <xt28> Tetsu1: I can relate to that... (using Empathy, though).
[10:33] <plastun> I use 9.04. Where I can find inittab?
[10:33] <rajasun> sclytrack: doubt Mark has much say over the release. Think there is a release enginering team for that.
[10:34] <Basstard`> What's the equivalence of Kate in Ubuntu?
[10:34] <grawity> plastun: Ubuntu uses Upstart, which doesn't really have an inittab...
[10:34] <turshu> test
[10:34] <turshu> :)
[10:34] <grawity> Basstard`: GNOME uses Gedit by default
[10:34] <banisterfiend> llutz: do i have to do anything else once ive installed open-ssh  or will everything just 'work' ? :)
[10:34] <turshu> it worked :P
[10:34] <llutz> banisterfiend: user external IP for testing, needs nat-loopback enabled in router
[10:34] <knutarn> hi
[10:34] <Basstard`> grawity: Does it cut it?
[10:34] <plastun> and how can I know about demons which starts at system startup?
[10:34]  * grawity shrugs
[10:34] <llutz> banisterfiend: default sshd-config  should be fine for 1st tests
[10:34] <grawity> Basstard`: Eh, I just use vim.
[10:34] <s3r3n1t7> Hello, i'm using Ubuntu server to run Tomcat for my email management tool. However, recent development on my tool has caused some problem with 1 of the script and is now giving the error message "/bin/bash/: bad interpreter". I've checked for wrong line endings and from what i've seen I can't see what's wrong with the thing.
[10:35] <grawity> !upstart | plastun
[10:35] <plastun> thnks
[10:35] <grawity> s3r3n1t7: You need to remove the slash from the end...
[10:35] <akshay> 1 hour to go
[10:35] <banisterfiend> llutz: ok the aptitutde install is complete. what's next? :)
[10:35] <akshay> inside scoop
[10:35] <grawity> s3r3n1t7: If you use /bin/bash/ the OS is looking for a directory with that name... /bin/bash is correct
[10:35] <Dynetrekk> hi all. I'm going to help a friend install ubuntu on an elderly PC. what is the recommended *buntu for a "noob" with 512 RAM? Ubuntu, xubuntu...?
[10:35] <llutz> banisterfiend: sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start
[10:35] <s3r3n1t7> grawity, wait ... did i really type that slash? oh ... my ... thanks!
[10:35] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - If you couldn't speak to the channel during the past minutes, please try again now.
[10:36] <sum-it> is karmic released?
[10:36] <llutz> banisterfiend: better check yourself, ssh -l user your-external-host-ip
[10:36] <akshay> @dynetrekk: xubuntu
[10:36] <Dynetrekk> akshay: due to performance?
[10:36] <iceroot> is there a torrent-client for cli with which i can download an iso and automaticly upload it? (the whole time, not only while donwloading) for uploading karmic :)
[10:36] <Tetsu1> Ubuntu is ok
[10:36] <akshay> lots of factor actually
[10:36] <akshay> 512 will do great for it
[10:36] <Tetsu1> My PC is 512MB of RAM,I use Ubuntu as well
[10:36] <xt28> !isitout | sum-it
[10:36] <dehaani> Ubuntu + MSI Wind = Problem :s
[10:36] <DexterLB> hi
[10:36] <DexterLB> when is karmic going to be released?
[10:36] <Dynetrekk> akshay: so any of ubuntu or xubuntu is fine? what about kubuntu?
[10:36] <b3rz3rk3r> its out!
[10:37] <b3rz3rk3r> :D
[10:37] <grawity> iceroot: I thought all BitTorrent clients do that. Try rtorrent.
[10:37] <Tetsu1> !isitout
[10:37] <grawity> DexterLB: Soon.
[10:37] <tMx> hi
[10:37] <geirha> iceroot: transmission-daemon
[10:37] <akshay> on 512 RAM, xubuntu will be great
[10:37] <iceroot> geirha: grawity i will have a look, thx
[10:37] <Dynetrekk> Tetsu1: and that performs well enough (perhaps turning off some fancy eyecandy)
[10:37] <DexterLB> oh ok
[10:38] <tehowe> "Can't wait? Download the Beta now."
[10:38] <s3r3n1t7> grawity, Hmm, the error message does indeed state a slash, but i can't find it in the scripts. Is there a way to check if any of the files contain a /bin/bash/ with the slash?
[10:38] <Dynetrekk> Tetsu1: also, for a noob, ease of use is more important than snappiness...
[10:38] <Tetsu1> Dynetrekk It depend on your 3d Card too
[10:38] <b3rz3rk3r> its already out gents
[10:38] <tMx> i need 9.10 :(
[10:38] <Qweritos> Greetings to all! Where I can download the final version ubuntu 9.10? Give link please)))
[10:38] <Dynetrekk> Tetsu1: assume "non existent" or slow, I think
[10:38] <banisterfiend> llutz: ok, cool it seems to work. :) But my system at the other system is windows, what's the best way to connect to it from windows?
[10:38] <grawity> s3r3n1t7: Just check the very first line of each file -- the #! line is what it's complaining about.
[10:38] <llutz> banisterfiend: use putty, windows ssh-client
[10:38] <geirha> Qweritos: Ask in #ubuntu-release-party
[10:38] <Qweritos> Ok
[10:39] <grawity> banisterfiend: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[10:39] <grawity> woot, I still can type that URL.
[10:39] <s3r3n1t7> grawity, I have, and I can't find a script with a slash on the end of that line. Would it cause a problem if i call a script from another script, and both have the shebang?
[10:39] <banisterfiend> llutz: cool. So so long as i dont restart my computer now, i will be able to connect to it from my other windows system?
[10:39] <grawity> s3r3n1t7: Nope, that really is not a problem.
[10:39] <DjAngo23> Hey everyone, got some serious problems with my ubuntu installation. It will now be 8 mounth that i'm using Ubuntu, but sundenly this morning, i could only see 1/5 of my screen. The 4/other 5 was black, but my mouse could go there. Really Strange. Now im i restarted gdm on tty1 bt it's really slow, do you have any idea ?
[10:39] <llutz> banisterfiend: even after reboot you should be able to. sshd should be startet at boottime
[10:40] <marxus> gents i got this link, http://mirror.lupaworld.com/ubuntu/releases/karmic/ is this final?
[10:40] <Tetsu1> !gstreamer
[10:40] <Dynetrekk> Tetsu1: will ubuntu perform OK without a 3D card with effects turned off?
[10:40] <bogdanbiv> When is Karmic released?
[10:40] <s3r3n1t7> grawity, and using chmod on every file before running it wouldn't cause any problems either would it? (I need to since eclipse doesn't set the executable bit from the working directory) ... I'm stumped, been stuck on this for the past 2 hours and I don't see what's wrong =\
[10:40] <banisterfiend> llutz: that's cool. Is it safe to have the server running all the time though? can't someone hack it
[10:40] <Dynetrekk> Tetsu1: or is xubuntu a better option then?
[10:41] <bogdanbiv> Um correction, at what _hour_ is Ubuntu Karmic released?
[10:41] <Tetsu1> Dynetrekk: Ubuntu with No Effects and Xubuntu?
[10:41] <llutz> banisterfiend: ssh is pretty safe, but make sure to use keys for authentication or at least good paswords
[10:41] <llutz> pass
[10:41] <grawity> s3r3n1t7: How about... grep -R '^#!/bin/bash/' ./
[10:41] <Dynetrekk> Tetsu1: yep? I suspect the graphics card is of the simple kind
[10:41] <Tetsu1> Ubuntu have more apps
[10:41] <Tetsu1> Xubuntu have more freespace
[10:41] <grawity> Tetsu1: Both Ubuntu and Xubuntu can use the same programs...
[10:41] <Dynetrekk> Tetsu1: freespace?
[10:41] <llutz> banisterfiend: "ilovemon" isn't a good one :)
[10:42] <bazhang> bogdanbiv, join #ubuntu-release-party for the countdown
[10:42] <anoop> bogdanbiv: you may have to wait for 4 more hours
[10:42] <s3r3n1t7> grawity, done, returns nothing
[10:42] <Tetsu1> Xubuntu with default not have too many programs,you can install then
[10:42] <Tetsu1> Ubuntu with default have many program preinstall
[10:43] <Dynetrekk> Tetsu1: ah right, disk space-wise. what's the ubuntu disk use with a "default" install?
[10:43] <DjAngo23> Hey everyone, got some serious problems with my ubuntu installation. It will now be 8 mounth that i'm using Ubuntu, but sundenly this morning, i could only see 1/5 of my screen. The 4/other 5 was black, but my mouse could go there. Really Strange. Now im i restarted gdm on tty1 bt it's really slow, do you have any idea ?
[10:43] <jony123> anyone here know how to send email threw a non-normal port in evolutions
[10:43] <Tetsu1> Just Install CD,Dynetrekk
[10:43] <grawity> jony123: through* -- and it can be changed in preferences -> accounts
[10:44] <Dynetrekk> Tetsu1: ok, sounds reasonable enough...
[10:44] <knutarn> d
[10:44] <albech> I have an older machine with onboard gfx card.. It is running Ubuntu just fine. Now I have installed an old PCI graphics card in hope that I can use a second monitor. According to lspci the installed pci card is found '01:09.0 VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 86C326 5598/6326 (rev 92)'. How do I activate the card and get output on the monitor. I wish to extend the desktop. http://nopaste.com/p/a2QfYnbdk
[10:44] <Dynetrekk> Tetsu1: just making sure that the "system requirements" are realistic
[10:44] <jony123> grawity, i cant find the setting in the Account Editor
[10:44] <Tetsu1> If you dont have many demand,just use Xubuntu
[10:45] <akshay> why can't I join ubuntu-release-party
[10:45] <s3r3n1t7> grawity, the entire error tomcat throws me contain 2 file names. I've checked both files and i cannot see what's wrong with them. Would it help if i pastebin those?
[10:45] <akshay> am i banned?
[10:46] <xt28> akshay: I can't either. Maybe it's the IRC client I am using (Empathy)...
[10:46] <Wikidude> akshay : No
[10:46] <grawity> s3r3n1t7: Well... I'd prefer to see them unmodified. Pastebins can mess with things.
[10:46] <Tetsu1> Dynetrekk: The system requirements,this is minimum requirements
[10:46] <grawity> s3r3n1t7: How about, for example, base64 < file.sh > file.sh.base64, and pastebin _that_ one?
[10:46] <akshay> i am using the webchat interface and can't join the channel
[10:46] <Dynetrekk> Tetsu1: right. so you should have a bit more for comfort
[10:47] <s3r3n1t7> grawity, your previous statement was correct ... I had a link to an old version of the file, one that _did_ contain the shebang ending with a slash. Correcting it
[10:47] <s3r3n1t7> grawity, I didn't notice that the path was slightly off, so i was checking the wrong directory
[10:47] <spaetz> yes, there is: http://cgit.openembedded.net/cgit.cgi/openembedded/tree/conf/distro/include?id=e601ac0b73c79ceda6fdbb1c634744a703e47105
[10:48] <spaetz> oops
[10:48] <khannz> Hi, guys. I've got some sort of trouble with my network interfaces. I got only one, but my system see it as eth2, not eth0. how can fix it?
[10:48] <akshay> ok people tell me your favourite linux/ubuntu blog...
[10:48] <Tetsu1> Dynetrekk: may be,I only need for study and working!So I use Ubuntu,Turn off effects,remove somepackage that I dont need to
[10:48] <theadmin> akshay: tuxradar.com
[10:48] <grawity> khannz: Does ifconfig -a list eth0/eth1?
[10:48] <iceroot> !ot | akshay
[10:49] <Tetsu1> !isitout | ubottu
[10:49] <AdvoWork> anyone here had any problems with cups before? got a printer connected(usb) to a pc running ubuntu, all other ubuntu pc's can see it and print to it. i have 2 xp pcs, ive added the printer fine, it can see it and picked it up but nothing prints out//
[10:49] <Dynetrekk> Tetsu1: then I will do as you are doing.
[10:49] <khannz> grawity, no
[10:50] <mrwes> seems we've survived aye?
[10:50] <mrwes> heh
[10:50] <grawity> khannz: So... what is the problem then?
[10:51] <Tetsu1> !isitout | ubottu
[10:51] <khannz> grawity, ^_^ the problem is that i don't know why my only iface called eth2 if this was eth0 in 2 days ago & eth1 yeasterday
[10:51] <grawity> !botabuse > Tetsu1
[10:51] <mrwes> anyone have a workaround for Handbrake and Karmic -- fails to launch
[10:51] <uzi> people! anyone know what time is karmic koala is coming? :D
[10:51] <grawity> uzi: Soon
[10:51] <xt28> khannz: My guess is that eth0 and eth1 have existed at some previous point. During the boot sequence, maybe?
[10:51] <s3r3n1t7> grawity, would you please help me with a small thing in order to avoid this ... I'd like to set an env variable to the working directory, so that i can use that variable in my scripts.
[10:51] <ltspadmin> hi
[10:51] <uzi> any idea what time? :D
[10:52] <ltspadmin> how to set resolution of thinclient in ubuntu 8.04 ltsp
[10:52] <khannz> xt28, can you please tell me how i can figure it out?
[10:52] <grawity> s3r3n1t7: Why not just use $(pwd)
[10:52] <akshay> sorry
[10:53] <KevinMai> when does Karmic Final release?
[10:53] <s3r3n1t7> grawity, it's run from tomcat, so what directory its in will be unsure when the scripts are called. Generally, they end up somewhere in the working directory
[10:53] <Argos> ok wheres the party
[10:53] <KevinMai> when does Karmic Final release?
[10:53] <erUSUL> !party
[10:53] <ltspadmin> how to set display resolution of thinclient in ubuntu 8.04 ltsp
[10:53] <Argos> yes party
[10:53] <Bamako> http://desert-fox.blog.hu
[10:54] <ltspadmin> how to set display resolution of thinclient in ubuntu 8.04 ltsp on ond sytem..
[10:54] <xu> hello. when will 9.10 be published?
[10:54] <grawity> xu: Today.
[10:55] <bazhang> xu, join #ubuntu-release-party for the countdown
[10:56] <akshay> i got banned from #ubuntu-release-party How to unban??
[10:56] <akshay> need help
[10:56] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - If you couldn't speak to the channel during the past minutes, please try again now.
[10:56] <s3r3n1t7> grawity, nvm i found a solution. I'll just symlink it to the actual working dir.
[10:57] <imperfect-> Anyone here aware of an issue with SATA performance?
[10:57] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - If you couldn't speak to the channel during the past minutes, please try again now.
[10:57] <imperfect-> i.e. it blows?
[10:57] <LexR> hello
[10:57] <Tetsu1> !isitout
[10:57] <dux0r> o ya
[10:57] <dux0r> !titsout
[10:58] <dehaani> hoi ubuntuers! wtf is wrong with ubuntu one?
[10:59] <uzi> Actually gonna install jaunty for my friend right now, but should I perhaps wait for karmic? Anyone know the release hour? :D Thank you
[10:59] <psicobra> hi all i have mounted a samba share on start up using fstab but i must have somthing wrong beacuse it is always read only i have mounted it using this command in fstab //PSICOBRA-PC/F /media/movies smbfs    uid=1000,gid=105,mode=777 0 0
[10:59] <TO3000> hw can i unban my self from a channel
[10:59] <psicobra> can any one see what i did wrong
[10:59] <varunthacker> why hasn't 9.10 released yet?
[10:59] <grawity> TO3000: You can't - you need to ask the channel ops.
[10:59] <TO3000> how do i do that
[10:59] <dehaani> psicobra, you used Windows?
[10:59] <jsongorman> Hi has anyone used git for version control ?
[10:59] <grawity> psicobra: Try cifs instead of smbfs?
[10:59] <dehaani> Isn't that wrong enough?
[11:00] <psicobra> what is cifs?
[11:00] <zaoul> anyone recall a window manager which supports window 'nesting'  .. that is grouping of windows inside of each other?
[11:00] <xt28> jsongorman: yes.
[11:00] <grawity> dehaani: No OS (except OS/2) is wrong.
[11:00] <jrib> jsongorman: someone probably has... just ask your question
[11:00] <grawity> psicobra: CIFS is a newer version of SMB, and cifs is a newer version of smbfs.
[11:00] <dehaani> OS/2 still runs on thousands of ATMs!!
[11:00] <TO3000> how do i ask the channel ops.
[11:00] <psicobra> will it be installed already?
[11:00] <dehaani> I actually quite like Windows 7 btw
[11:00] <grawity> psicobra: It comes with 'samba'
[11:01] <grawity> dehaani: Not unusual
[11:01] <Bamako> Budapest-Bamako Rally
[11:01] <psicobra> grawity, and that will allow groups to have read/wright access?
[11:01] <Bamako> caritative help Africa
[11:01] <Bamako> http://desert-fox.blog.hu
[11:01] <Tetsu1> when its out ubottu
[11:01] <dehaani> anyone know if the msi wind brightness bug is being fixed soon? today?
[11:01] <suleman> grawity, can u please help me khow which lan messanger helps me know which ports users are using???/
[11:01] <TO3000> how do i ask the channel ops.
[11:01] <suleman> grawity, can u please help me khow which lan messanger helps me know which ports users are using???/
[11:02] <psicobra> grawity, //PSICOBRA-PC/F /media/movies cifs    uid=1000,gid=105,mode=777 0 0 like that?
[11:02] <jrib> TO3000: what channel?
[11:02] <oobe> ubuntu 9.10 isnt out yet
[11:02] <oobe> ubuntu 9.10 isnt out yet
[11:02] <suleman> can u please help me khow which lan messanger helps me know which ports users are using???/
[11:02] <bazhang> oobe, join #ubuntu-release-party for the countdown
[11:02] <anoob> i downloaded rc and now i have karmic :D
[11:02] <TO3000> jrib: #ubuntu-relase-party
[11:02] <grawity> suleman: Wireshark.
[11:02] <jrib> TO3000: #ubuntu-ops
[11:03] <marxus1> anoob : does RC works great?
[11:03] <suleman> grawity, thanks
[11:03] <TO3000> jrib: thank you soo much
[11:03] <anoob> yes, it does...
[11:03] <suleman> gwawity,dude thanks
[11:03] <anoob> it beautiful man!
[11:03]  * grawity sighs.
[11:03] <oobe> bazhang, do they do 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1
[11:03] <bazhang> oobe, join and see
[11:03] <anoob> i always use debian but now i'm changing my mind
[11:04] <oobe> bazhang, i have been there for a while
[11:04] <djzn> dmatt: me listens to DM SOTU while waiting
[11:04] <marxus1> just asking when is the release of 9.10 final?
[11:05] <xt28> marxus1: #ubuntu-release-party
[11:05] <spaetz> !ititout | marxus1
[11:05] <bazhang> marxus1, join #ubuntu-release-party for the countdown
[11:05] <oobe> bazhang, http://pastebin.ca/1647649
[11:05] <marxus1> sure thanks xt28
[11:07] <Shockrates> hi which is the fastest browser for linux? safari, firefox, opera, chromium, konq ?
[11:07] <grawity> Shockrates: Epiphany?
[11:07] <Shockrates> i dont know that
[11:07] <Shockrates> i know arora and rekonq
[11:07] <LordNeo> hi, i'm a newbie and i'm in need of some asistance
[11:07] <khannz> Guys, can you tell me how i can configure my device->eth* links?
[11:08] <exoticorn> #join /ubuntu-release-party
[11:08] <suleman> grawity, how do i view the shared files in the LAN using wireshare
[11:08] <exoticorn> oops
[11:08] <exoticorn> ;)
[11:08] <xt28> khannz: Is this the same question as before? Otherwise, please clarify.
[11:09] <suleman>  how do i view the shared files in the LAN using wireshare
[11:10] <om26er> upload the torrent
[11:10] <lbt> hi, in jaunty when I press Alt-tab it just switches windows without using the 'Cover Switch' ... any ideas?
[11:10] <Guest24937> When does koala come out
[11:11] <pkern> Hi.  How was that tool called that shows me which packages are supported (security-wise) by Canonical and how long?
[11:11] <xt28> Guest24937: Join #ubuntu-release-party to find out.
[11:11] <khannz> xt28, yup - it's the same. mroe details: my system is virtual ubuntu-server-9.04 on ms cluster & cluster admins in 2 last days reconfigured some architecture so my ubu system have changed MACs twice. I suppose that system have some kind of autoconf because of that & this *auto* was wrong. i don't want to store my old MACs, i just need to use the current as eth0
[11:12] <bratizPirate> Ubuntu 9.10 IS ALREADY OUT Since it was Leaked to Pirate Bay!! Here it is, for i386: http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/5139359/Ubuntu_9.10_FINAL_LEAKED_____ AND here it is for AMD64 too http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/5139359/Ubuntu_9.10_FINAL_LEAKED_____ Greetz!!!!! WAREZ 4Ever
[11:12] <Ramunas> yeah, right
[11:13] <chromic> how to install just the security updates from the command line?
[11:13] <khannz> bratizPirate, should i run it in windos with admin rights?
[11:13] <Aranel> lol
[11:13] <xt28> khannz: At the risk of sounding like a Windows user: Have you tried rebooting?
[11:13] <^mNotIntelligent> hi all !
[11:14] <lbt> So "keyboard settings KWin Walk-through-windows is bound to alt-tab"
[11:14] <^mNotIntelligent> is 9.10  available for download ?
[11:14] <khannz> xt28, sure ))) (in fact i'm doing this winmagic regulary) but let me try again.
[11:14] <lbt> but it just does a plain flick
[11:14] <bazhang> ^mNotIntelligent, no
[11:14] <lauris> ^mNotIntelligent, no
[11:14] <lbt> (which is annoying since I want to cycle through minimised windows too)
[11:14] <xt28> khannz: Which version of Ubuntu are you using?
[11:14] <KitsuneDragon> hello
[11:14] <^mNotIntelligent> lauris, bazhang, when can we download that, btw?
[11:15] <khannz> xt28, 9.04
[11:15] <pkern> Bah, I know there was a program that said like "3 years", "5 years" or "not supported" for each package.
[11:15] <lauris> ^mNotIntelligent, later today
[11:15] <lauris> i hope so :0
[11:15] <lauris> i cam here with the same question :)
[11:15] <lauris> came*
[11:16] <^mNotIntelligent> lauris, thanks
[11:16] <bazhang> ^mNotIntelligent, lauris join #ubuntu-release-party for the countdown
[11:16] <lauris> thanks :)
[11:17] <^mNotIntelligent> bazhang, thanks dude
[11:17] <Maleko> how do we copy files without overwriting exisiting files in dest dir?
[11:17] <lbt> so when I alt-tab it doesn't actually switch
[11:17] <xt28> khannz: Maybe /etc/network/interfaces is misconfigured?
[11:17] <lbt> is this really so hard?
[11:17] <oldwolf> ls
[11:18] <dehaani> What is matisse all about? It seems crap to me!
[11:18] <s3r3n1t7> Maleko, cp -i
[11:18] <Maleko> interactive mode?
[11:18] <s3r3n1t7> Maleko, yes, that prompts you before overwriting a file.
[11:18] <xt28> Maleko: If cp supports the "-n" switch, use that. Otherwise, cp -i or possibly yes no | cp -i.
[11:19] <khannz> xt28, nope - it's quite right (worked perfect before). I think it's because of /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules - i have all my old MACs and eth* there + current one. I'll try to comment wrong lines & restart again
[11:19] <s3r3n1t7> xt28, cp doesn't support the -n switch according to the man page.
[11:20] <xt28> s3r3n1t7: I believe the newest version does. Not sure, though.
[11:20] <chromic> how to install just the security updates from the command line?
[11:20] <jmadgin> i've got a small home network setup with all ubuntu machines, however i can only open a connection with a particular machine if home folder has been opened since boot, this is really annoying, is there a fix for this?
[11:20] <xt28> khannz: That sounds good.
[11:20] <s3r3n1t7> xt28, i'm running 9.04, latest updates. Might not have come through yet, but mine doesn't support it.
[11:20] <ltspadmin> how to configure thin-client-manager on ubuntu 8.04 ltsp server
[11:21] <suleman> how to know whether packet-socket is enables in kernel
[11:21] <khannz> xt28, strange that i didn't googled it in english inet... only 1 russian blog. usually it's tottaly different )
[11:21] <suleman> grawity, how to know whether packet-socket is enables in kernel?
[11:21] <dox_drum> #ubuntu-release-party
[11:21] <suleman> Granis, how to know whether packet-socket is enables in kernel
[11:21] <SJr> Where is Karmic!
[11:22] <xt28> s3r3n1t7: The karmic version supports it.
[11:22] <aaajk> how far is the 9.10 release?
[11:22] <erUSUL> suleman: what is packet-socket? . btw do not repeat that quickly ?
[11:22] <s3r3n1t7> xt28, good to know, tnx!
[11:22] <suleman> erUSUL, http://wiki.wireshark.org/CaptureSetup/CaptureSupport
[11:23] <suleman> there
[11:23] <xt28> khannz: I didnt't even remember that file... Do you know when and how it is created/updated?
[11:23] <erUSUL> suleman: wireshark should work withoutproblems in ubuntu. but you need to use gksudo
[11:23] <jmadgin> can ne1 help?
[11:23] <KevinMai> so long time :(
[11:24] <ubuntistas> any news for the upcoming version?
[11:24] <dox_drum> not yet
[11:24] <suleman> erUSUL, i m sorry but where do u use gksudo,
[11:24] <RabidNelson> suleman: command line
[11:24] <khannz> xt28, i suppose it was created during system start when device-searching-scripts working
[11:24] <suleman> erUSUL, i have already installed wireshark
[11:24] <suleman> RabidNelson, thanks
[11:24] <erUSUL> suleman:  « gksudo wireshark »
[11:25] <eddym> hi all
[11:25] <rafiq> AWN shows two icons for every window open,anyone knows how to fix it?
[11:26] <eddym> hey does anyone have windows xp in in wmware with ubuntu
[11:26] <xt28> khannz: Or just once during system install. I'll try to figure it out...
[11:26] <bratizPirateBay> Ubuntu 9.10 IS ALREADY OUT!!!! Since it was Leaked to Pirate Bay!! Both the 386 and AMD versions! Here it is, for i386: http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/5139359/Ubuntu_9.10_FINAL_LEAKED_____ AND here it is for AMD64 too http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/5139359/Ubuntu_9.10_FINAL_LEAKED_____ Greetz!!!!! WAREZ 4Ever
[11:26] <furuno> ...
[11:26] <marktheunissen_> hey everyone, what's the ETA till release? ;)
[11:26] <vadviktor> idiota...
[11:27] <khannz> xt28, well... i'll be glad to be sure where this file come from
[11:27] <furuno> can you call a GPL-ed stuff warez?
[11:27] <erUSUL> marktheunissen_: a few hours
[11:27] <erUSUL> !party | marktheunissen_
[11:27] <erUSUL> eddym: ost people use Vobx this days
[11:27] <^mNotIntelligent> bratizPiratebay, fake links
[11:27] <jmadgin> i've got a small home network setup with all ubuntu machines, however i can only open a connection with a particular machine if home folder has been opened since boot, this is really annoying, is there a fix for this?
[11:27] <jmadgin> (11:20:32) xt28: khannz: That sounds good.
[11:27] <xt28> khannz: You might have to hang around for the answer, though. I don't think I'll get to it right away.
[11:28] <furuno> eddym, he mean : most people use Vbox this days :)
[11:28] <khannz> xt28, oh, i didnt's said but my system on-air now )) it was right file
[11:28] <ploc> Is Karmic out ? If not, when will it be ?
[11:29] <Boohbah> ploc: /j #ubuntu-release-party
[11:29] <khannz> ploc, just stay tuned )) soon you'll see much ppl with this question & answers on it
[11:31] <fr0st> it is out???
[11:31] <eyeofhell> Not yet
[11:31] <xt28> khannz: Oops, I should have taken a better look at that file. The first comment states how it is generated...
[11:31] <fr0st> =(
[11:31] <xt28> !isitout | frost
[11:32] <PsyberS> fr0st: plenty more hours in the day for them to release! :)
[11:32] <fr0st> =)
[11:33] <sclytrack> Is Ubuntu out yet?
[11:33] <Dezent> No
[11:33] <sclytrack> lol
[11:33] <xt28> !isitout | sclytrack
[11:33] <furuno> Ubuntu? of course, where have you been :)
[11:33] <remin> hello
[11:33] <Dezent> sclytrack: check www.ubuntu.com
[11:34] <remin> karmic release time????
[11:34] <sclytrack> Yeah sure, I'm checking that every half hour?
[11:34] <indus> is it out
[11:34] <pchero> hi...
[11:34] <khannz> xt28, oops yeah ^_^ i was too busy with configuring to read the header
[11:34] <bazhang> remin, join #ubuntu-release-party for the countdown
[11:34] <xt28> !isitout | indus
[11:34] <indus> oops
[11:34] <remin> yeah
[11:34] <indus> xt28: wrong channel
[11:34] <charan> it will in half hour i guess
[11:35] <pchero> Is this a chat for ubuntu mirror site?
[11:35] <digitaloktay> Hi People
[11:35] <sclytrack> Does anybody know at what time the previous Ubuntu versions released.
[11:36] <lbt> is there a chan to get help for clear questions about the released version of Ubuntu (ie Jaunty?)
[11:36] <sclytrack> GMT
[11:36] <Flannel> sclytrack: It'll be released sometime within the next 26 hours.  #ubuntu-release-party for details/questions/updates
[11:36] <Flannel> lbt: This one
[11:36] <lbt> when I press Alt-tab it just switches windows without using the 'Cover Switch' ... keyboard settings KWin Walk-through-windows is bound to alt-tab
[11:36] <sclytrack> Flannel: ok thanks
[11:36] <xt28> khannz: Then again, do you have that file (75-persistent-net-generator.rules)? I don't seem to. (Currently using a live CD, though. Maybe that's why.)
[11:37] <PsyberS> i can upgrade from the iso, right?
[11:37] <Flannel> PsyberS: from the alternate ISO, yes.  Not the desktop one
[11:37] <lbt> I have tried enabling disabling the related "Desktop Effects" but it doesn't activate
[11:37] <erUSUL> PsyberS: from the alternate iso only
[11:37] <PsyberS> Flannel: ah hah, did not know that thanks :)
[11:37] <khannz> xt28, no or it's somwhere else on FS. it's not in that dir
[11:37] <lbt> Flannel: any ideas?
[11:37] <invitingdopeman> identify
[11:37] <invitingdopeman> identify
[11:37] <Bear10_> goose, is it possible with the ubuntu live, to see whats on the current HD?
[11:38] <Flannel> lbt: Try #kubuntu, they'll know more with regard to KDE stuffs
[11:38] <invitingdopeman> were is the realase party channel
[11:38] <lbt> Flannel: thanks.. will do
[11:38] <Bear10_> guess hes not here well, does anyone know how to check current hard drive contents from a live cd?
[11:38] <erUSUL> Bear10_: yes; is easy
[11:38] <H20> ubuntu 9,10 trailer is out http://linux.softpedia.com/get/System/Operating-Systems/Linux-Distributions/Ubuntu-Karmic-Koala-47613.shtml
[11:38] <magnetron> H20: digg it
[11:38] <Bear10_> erUSUL, how do i go about it?
[11:39] <erUSUL> Bear10_: you have to mount the paritions. Maybe just going to Places>Computer and clicking there
[11:39] <Bear10_> erUSUL, alright thanks
[11:39] <erUSUL> Bear10_: if that does not work mount them by hand.
[11:39] <erUSUL> !mount | Bear10_
[11:39] <H20> but the real one are coming soon as u now ...
[11:39] <invitingdopeman> when is the release anybody know
[11:40] <uzi> everytime u ask, Shuttleworth is gonna make it delay another 15 mins.
[11:40] <xt28> khannz: Here it is: /lib/udev/rules.d/75-persistent-net-generator.rules
[11:40] <sophia> any one knows system command to verify whether SMO is connected or not?
[11:40] <Sagaci> !hi | ^mNotIntelligent
[11:40] <sophia> !help
[11:41] <invitingdopeman> were is my 9.10
[11:41] <DJones> !isitout | invitingdopeman
[11:41] <sophia> Anyone can help?
[11:41] <^mNotIntelligent> guys joing #ubuntu-release-party its rocking...dont miss the party...else will regret later
[11:41] <sophia> :-(
[11:42] <Sensiva> lol
[11:42] <erUSUL> sophia: what is SMO ?
[11:42] <Sensiva> ^mNotIntelligent dude,  I guess I am going to lose my eyes coz of this party channel
[11:42] <Sensiva> :D
[11:42] <sophia> erUSUL: Spot monitor
[11:43] <mrintegrity> So, i guess it's just mental chatter about the release of 9.10 in here then?
[11:43] <AivariuX> Join to  #ubuntu-release-party we need 1000 members!!
[11:44] <invitingdopeman> ye
[11:44] <erUSUL> sophia: sorry do not know what that is
[11:44] <sophia> erUSUL: Ok
[11:44] <ricdanger> hi
[11:44] <carresmd> !karmic
[11:44] <ricdanger> why is ubuntu "coming soon" ?
[11:44] <furuno> the #1000 dude will get a free ubuntu !
[11:45] <^mNotIntelligent> guys joing #ubuntu-release-party its rocking...dont miss the party...else will regret later...
[11:45] <om26er> is there any image converter than i can use to shrink the size of the picture
[11:45] <furuno> om26er : a lot of
[11:45] <furuno> om26er : like GIMP
[11:45] <^mNotIntelligent> ricdanger, midnight release
[11:45] <^mNotIntelligent> furuno, really :-)...lol
[11:45] <Sensiva> om26er GIMP, its already installed in your system
[11:45] <AivariuX> Join to  #ubuntu-release-party we need 1000 members!!
[11:45] <c3l> when iw the release comeing? says "soon", does it mean that it will be delayed some days?
[11:45] <ricdanger> midnight? what time zone?
[11:46] <om26er> Sensiva, furuno gimp is complex
[11:46] <furuno> om26er : Google Picasa?
[11:46] <om26er> furuno, i love google and i am gonna try it now
[11:46] <xukun> hi guys /join #ubuntu-release-party they need 1000 members
[11:47] <Sensiva> om26er just open your image using GIMP and click "image" --> "scale image" enter the new dimensions , voila
[11:47] <Sensiva> :D
[11:47] <Wipster> I have a problem with printing from some programs, firefox gives an error about the filter thunderbird prints as does gimp. And I can print from a windows computer over the network. I cant work out why firefox is failing. I put CUPS into debug and compared the commands and they seemed the same...
[11:48] <om26er> Sensiva, actually i have 200 pictures
[11:48] <furuno> om26er : you might want to try imagemagick, it's very good for batch
[11:48] <Sensiva> om26er and you need to scale them in one shot?
[11:48] <om26er> Sensiva, yes
[11:48] <Argos> their typying to quick in the next room..cant keep up with it lol
[11:48] <erUSUL> om26er: use mogrify from imagemagick is a cli utility so you can do a for loop in command line
[11:49] <erUSUL> !info imagemagik
[11:49] <infinity2> hello
[11:49] <kartik> Does anybody remember gopher?
[11:49] <x3_iVaN> hi =)
[11:49] <erUSUL> !info imagemagick
[11:49] <furuno> ...
[11:49] <kartik> Does anybody remember gopher?
[11:49] <kartik> Is gopher an improved version of anonymous FTP?
[11:50] <Sensiva> om26er there is also "Phatch Photo Batch Processor" available in Ubuntu repos, you can install it from Add/Remove Programs
[11:50] <erUSUL> kartik: that is offtopic here...
[11:50] <ideamonk> kartik, I remember mugging that in class 6th in glossary list that we were given!
[11:50] <textureglitch> anybody know what the difference is between Karmic Netbook and Karmic Netbook Remix?
[11:50] <kartik> I just had an exam and i wrote NO!
[11:50] <kartik> And im sure it was wrong answer!
[11:51] <erUSUL> !karmic | textureglitch
[11:51] <AivariuX> Join to  #ubuntu-release-party we need 1000 members!!
[11:52] <textureglitch> that doesn't really tell me anything. They're both called netbook
[11:52] <erUSUL> textureglitch: it tells you to ask in #ubuntu+1
[11:53] <Baversjo> Hi! I need to test my IPTABLES rules and was wondering how I can create a syn-flood to my server using windows?
[11:53] <ichat> Flannel  - can you unban me in -  ubuntu-release-party ill be good i - prommise :P
[11:54] <Flannel> ichat: #ubuntu-ops is the place to go to discuss bans
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[11:54] <e3co> speak
[11:54] <stardust1985> Hi people, please dont forget to join #ubuntu-release-party , only 50 people remain to get 1000 people on the channel :)
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[11:55] <Baversjo> Hi! I need to test my IPTABLES rules and was wondering how I can create a syn-flood to my server using windows?
[11:55] <himuraken> So whats the hold up on 9.10
[11:55] <lochlite> so, whats the lates rumors on release time?
[11:56] <miquel_puig> dunno
[11:56] <partypooper> hi
[11:56] <partypooper> poople
[11:56] <erUSUL> !quietirssi
[11:56] <kartik> Can somebody help me it wont take more than a second.. Is gopher an improved version of anonymous FTP?
[11:56] <partypooper> i expect this channel to have 4000 people tomorrow
[11:56] <SikEnCide> lol partypooper
[11:57] <grawity> kartik: I think Gopher is older.
[11:57] <grawity> Or.... no, it's not.
[11:57] <partypooper> and i will come down here to help these poople
[11:57] <partypooper> SikEnCide: are you in release party room?
[11:58] <SikEnCide> yeah its scrolly to fast to rtead
[11:58] <grawity> kartik: Gopher was created for retrieving information - kinda like HTTP/WWW/etc now.
[11:58] <kartik> grawity: I wrote that gopher is outdated in my exam but i know they are going to cut marks because on some websites i read "gopher is designed to be a better version of anonymous ftp" .. do you have a definative say on the matter?
[11:58] <stardust1985> join #ubuntu-release-party
[11:59] <grawity> kartik: It's really not a replacement for FTP, nor a better version...
[11:59] <grawity> kartik: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gopher_(protocol) has some information
[11:59] <SikEnCide> its commen in 5 mins methinks
[11:59] <himuraken> Its already out, just press F5
[12:00] <kartik> grawity: it says nothing about being a improved version of anonymous ftp but look here http://sawaal.ibibo.com/computers-and-technology/what-gopher-402308.html
[12:00] <kartik> grawity: second answer
[12:00] <SikEnCide> its not out i only see 9.04
[12:00] <invitingdopeman> weres the release party room
[12:00] <Stormx2> j #ubuntu+1
[12:01] <Stormx2> Oops
[12:01] <kartik> grawity: http://www.grumpy-server.net/gopher.htm
[12:01] <invitingdopeman> jfjf
[12:01] <stardust1985> ivnitindopeman #ubuntu-release-party
[12:01] <invitingdopeman> thanks
[12:01] <aaron115> Hello everyone!
[12:03] <datacrusher> floodbot?
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[12:04] <erUSUL> !away > BeardedAdmin
[12:05] <himuraken> Need more people in #ubuntu-release-party
[12:06] <cliffer> hi, should be ubuntu 9.10 be released today?
[12:06] <zealiod> can i get ubuntu to ping an ip throug a certain interface?
[12:06] <Shockrates> hi
[12:06] <erUSUL> !party | cliffer
[12:06] <furuno> cliffer : please join #ubuntu-release-party
[12:06] <Pici> cliffer, Karmic will be released some time during the 29th, i.e: there is no exact time. You can await the announcement in #ubuntu-release-party
[12:06] <Shockrates> HOW CAN I INSTALL NVIDIA FOR THE SITE?
[12:06] <Halitech> !nvidia | shockrates
[12:06] <erUSUL> zealiod: man ping ( -I )
[12:07] <anzo> hey all
[12:07] <anzo> Does anyone know when 9.10 is going to be released today?
[12:07] <Shockrates> Halitech: i have downloaded the latest version from the site. NVIDIA-Linux-x86-190.42-pkg2.run
[12:08] <Halitech> anzo, when they upload it
[12:08] <dox_drum> Hi
[12:08] <Pici> anzo, Karmic will be released some time during the 29th, i.e: there is no exact time. You can await the announcement in #ubuntu-release-party
[12:08] <Halitech> Shockrates, then you just need to run the file you downloaded
[12:08] <Squirm> #ubuntu-release-party
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[12:10] <rldowling03> I have had a problem with my NVIDIA graphics card in Ubuntu, I cant run the hardware drivers as when they are enabled and running my computer randomly restarts which means I cant use the nvidia drivers. Are there any open source nvidia drivers which are good?
[12:10] <^mNotIntelligent> party animals join #ubuntu-release-party...its rocking
[12:10] <nic1> can i open two files at a time using vim file1 file2??
[12:10] <uzi> yes
[12:10] <uzi> u'll see 2 tabs
[12:10] <nic1> when i ran vim file1 file2, file1 opened and i now want to go to file2
[12:10] <nic1> i am not seeing 2 tabs when i run vim file1 file2
[12:10] <uzi> use the short cut key to navigate
[12:10] <rldowling03> on vim i use :n to go to next file
[12:10] <nic1> short cut key?
[12:10] <furuno> nic1 : try gvim :)
[12:11] <invitingdopeman> yes
[12:11] <invitingdopeman> identify
[12:11] <nic1> :n takes me to nth fline in the same file
[12:11] <invitingdopeman> weres the release party link
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[12:11] <invitingdopeman> identify
[12:11] <bazhang> invitingdopeman, #ubuntu-release-party
[12:11] <furuno> !isitout | invitingdopeman
[12:11] <rldowling03> hmmm, well I suppose :n works on centos, im guessing they work differently.
[12:12] <albasheers> Is Karmic Cola launched
[12:12] <erUSUL> !party | albasheers
[12:12] <bazhang> albasheers, not yet #ubuntu-release-party for the countdown
[12:12] <om26er> Pici, i am here
[12:13] <om26er> Pici, i was not able to even join #ubuntu
[12:13] <nic1> hi, i am getting an error, E:Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[12:13] <om26er> Pici, i registered 5 min ago but still can't join the party
[12:13] <nic1> i ran apt-get update, but of now use
[12:13] <Pici> om26er: Check your email to finish the registration process.
[12:13] <albech> what do i have to do to activate this old sis graphics card to use with my second monitor? lspci detect the card fine, but how do i configure the desktop to use it as an extended desktop? http://nopaste.com/p/a2QfYnbdk
[12:14] <giacinto> salve
[12:15] <Alvinware1> I'm living in Malaysia, using the main server and just now i checked update, it didn't show Ubuntu 9.10 for upgrade, is it ready yet?
[12:15] <furuno> !isitout | Alvinware1
[12:16] <D3RGPS31> 9.10 is late :< it's 2 AM, FRIDAY, here in Kiritimati
[12:16] <nabil2199> hey guys and gals, remember to use the torrents
[12:17] <iceroot> tomorrow will be a fine day without this "is karmic out? spam"
[12:17] <Squirm> lol
[12:17] <Squirm> what time zone is Samoa?
[12:17] <Squirm> GMT +?
[12:17] <khannz> -11
[12:17] <D3RGPS31> tomarrow people will be wanting 10.04 :<
[12:17] <urc|work> quick question: if I do `cat iso > /dev/flash-stick`, will I be able to boot and install from the stick?
[12:17] <aprilhare> iceroot, what? it's not out? ;)
[12:17] <Destructo> hey
[12:17] <Squirm> -11
[12:17] <Squirm> :/
[12:17] <erUSUL> urc|work: not likely; use unetbooting
[12:17] <furuno> urc|work : I don't think so...
[12:17] <iceroot> urc|work: no
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[12:18] <Alvinware1> a
[12:18] <urc|work> erUSUL: can unetbootin use the iso as source?
[12:18] <raik> karmic koala not coming out today or what?
[12:18] <Pici> raik, Karmic will be released some time during the 29th, i.e: there is no exact time. You can await the announcement in #ubuntu-release-party
[12:18] <erUSUL> urc|work: yes
[12:18] <urc|work> thank you
[12:18] <nabil2199> urc|work, yes unetbootin can use ISOs
[12:18] <nabil2199> I used it to install windows 7
[12:18]  * nabil2199 ducks
[12:18] <raik> pici i have waited whole day
[12:19] <steveieb> it is 29th October and I don't see #Karmic available for upgrade yet....
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[12:19] <Pici> raik: Oh, sorry, we didn't know you were waiting. We'll get right on it now.
[12:19] <yure> spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam...
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[12:19] <FloodBot1> yure: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:19] <furuno> ...
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[12:19] <furuno> xkill yure
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[12:20] <uzi> kick yure
[12:20] <Sche> !isitout
[12:20] <raik> ;(
[12:20] <SikEnCide> !isitout
[12:20] <yure> spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam...
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[12:21] <FloodBot1> yure: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:21] <X-Sleepy-X> Why in the world would anyone want to SPAM this channel? Doesn't Bill G. have anything better to do?
[12:21] <Weegee> lol :D
[12:21] <digitaloktay> please ban yure
[12:21] <khannz> digitaloktay, [15:21] * FloodBot1 sets mode: +zb %yure!*@*
[12:22] <digitaloktay> khannz, ;)
[12:22] <iceroot> finaly, its out, so the spam can stop :)
[12:22] <furuno> X-Sleepy-X : did you mean Steve B. ?
[12:22] <spaetz> khannz: that is only temporarily, right?
[12:22] <root> helooo
[12:22] <furuno> :)
[12:22] <X-Sleepy-X> furuno: Yes, my bad. Hehe!
[12:23] <Alvinware1> What's the time for the ubuntu 9.10 release in South-East-Asia?
[12:23] <William-Ubuntu> any body know the exact time 9.10 release?
[12:23] <iceroot> Alvinware1: its out (torrents)
[12:23] <spaetz> release time
[12:23] <bazhang> spaetz, not known
[12:24] <sclytrack> 23:59
[12:24] <awhit> it seems to be out
[12:24] <awhit> http://releases.ubuntu.com/karmic/ubuntu-9.10-rc-desktop-i386.iso
[12:24] <sclytrack> rc
[12:24] <awhit> k
[12:24] <spaetz> bazhang: sorry, bad joke. I was referring to "What's the time for the ubuntu 9.10 release in  South-East-Asia?
[12:24] <spaetz> "
[12:24] <Salvad1> Hello.
[12:24] <nic1> when i try vim file1 file2, i get this error "E233: cannot open display2 files to edit" anyone knows why??
[12:24] <bazhang> spaetz, its okay :) /join #ubuntu-release-party
[12:25] <n1k> \o/
[12:25] <Salvad1> Can I run another or the same session in another tty with graphical interface?
[12:25] <Wikidude> I am back
[12:26] <uzi> are karmic torrents in torrents.ubuntu.com is the final ones?
[12:26] <AustinWolfclaw> ubuntu 9.10 isn't even released yet here in the US...
[12:26] <Wikidude> uzi : They are not yet released
[12:27] <hypn0> who cares what happens in the us :-/
[12:27] <iceroot> http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/9.10/  <- released (29.10.2009)
[12:27] <corden> guys which to download? ubuntu or kubuntu?
[12:28] <Wikidude> Its just RC not the final version
[12:28] <furuno> corden : depend on what your preferences :)
[12:28] <raik> it is out!!!
[12:28] <corden> nah ubuntu all the way, i'll guys download kubuntu-desktop later - go idead right?
[12:29] <furuno> coder : Ubuntu is Gnome while Kubuntu is KDE, and I certainly don't want to start an argument about which are the best :)
[12:29] <furuno> corden i mean *cough*
[12:29]  * Wikidude yawns
[12:29] <khannz> raik, so post link here
[12:29] <corden> hehehe
[12:29] <zippo> 有中国人？
[12:29]  * Wikidude kncks raik off
[12:29] <dual> When today is ubuntu coming?
[12:29] <D3RGPS31> wish gnome had an option to remove borders like KDE :/
[12:30] <dual> Ubuntu 9.10*
[12:30] <furuno> !cn | zippo
[12:30] <hund> can anybody say me when they will open the download for the new ubuntu version (9.10)
[12:30] <Wikidude> !isitout
[12:30] <pisan> jaunty kubuntu still got lots of bugs, hope it's better with karmic
[12:30] <Skaperen> I was looking at the CDs in the Ubuntu Shops ... they don't say if it is the i386 or amd64 versions
[12:30] <Fri13> D3RGPS31: Why you dont just change the windowmanager if you want borders away from windows?
[12:30] <furuno> Skaperen : I suggest you get it from ShipIt instead, it's free
[12:30] <Wikidude> What is the name of Ubuntu 10.04 . Is it decided yet
[12:30] <D3RGPS31> Fri13 i only want it for certain windows; like KDE :3
[12:30] <pisan> yeep
[12:31] <pisan> lucid lynx
[12:31] <FreeDownload> Lucid Lynx
[12:31] <furuno> Wikidude : Lucid Lynx
[12:31] <hund> when will the open the download ?
[12:31] <FreeDownload> dunno
[12:31] <hund> k
[12:31] <Skaperen> furuno: actually, I'd rather download and burn my own ... but I was just looking ... and I looked at shipit, too ... even less info there
[12:31] <Wikidude> Thanks all
[12:31] <jhb1608> how do I upgrade from 9.10 beta to stable?
[12:31] <D3RGPS31> Ok... Karmic Koala is out :D Lucid Lynx out yet
[12:31] <Fri13> D3RGPS31: change the windowmanager to one what allows it so you can remove it from the ones what you do not want to have such windeco ;-)
[12:31] <Guest90984> irc.abjects.net
[12:32] <FreeDownload> jhb1608, upgrade manager
[12:32] <SikEnCide> jhb1608 when its released do "sudo -apt-get update"    then "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[12:32] <Noble> Got a new Intel SSD. What do I need to do to get maximum performance? what filesystem, BIOS settings etc?
[12:32] <Fri13> D3RGPS31: unless you mean that you want to run two different windowmanager on one desktop environment.
[12:32] <Shockrates> hi
[12:32] <albech> how can you get a list of supported hardware on Ubuntu? I am curious if 'Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 86C326 5598/6326 (rev 92)' is supported. It shows in lspci though.
[12:32] <Shockrates> where is the xorg.conf located?
[12:32] <furuno> Noble : I believe you'll need TRIM, but I don't know about TRIM support in Linux tough, G2 ?
[12:32] <Wikidude> Wow , the users are really increasing at a high rate
[12:32] <mrwes> Shockrates, /etc/X11
[12:33] <FreeDownload> albech, /etc/X11/
[12:33] <iceroot> Shockrates: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:33] <FreeDownload> aps..
[12:33] <Shockrates> thanks
[12:33] <D3RGPS31> the wait is murder :<
[12:33] <alphas> how long has final already been up?
[12:33] <alphas> (karmic)
[12:33] <alphas> ?
[12:33] <zealiod> i dont know what the ip address is of a device, and i cant hard reset it... how do i scan a whole range - and what ip do i need to have to do this?
[12:33] <fsckroot> anybody had any luck getting 82801G intel sound working?
[12:33] <furuno> !isitout | alphas
[12:33] <fsckroot> running 9.10RC and no sound
[12:33] <albech> FreeDownload, was that for me or Shockrates?
[12:33] <alphas> it's on the server...
[12:34] <furuno> fsckroot : please visit #ubuntu+1 for 9.10 related issues :)
[12:34] <jhb1608> SikEnCide:  I did and it says 1 package not upgraded. it is devede, not 9.10 stable.
[12:34] <fsckroot> thanks :)
[12:34] <FreeDownload> sorry albech
[12:34] <furuno> fsckroot : or wait several more hour :)
[12:34] <jhb1608> thought it was released
[12:34] <Wikidude> fsckroot : Probably it will be solved in final release
[12:34] <fsckroot> let's hope so
[12:34] <D3RGPS31> when i play movies, minimize windows, or move windows; they move choppy; but when i play games they're smooth
[12:34] <Wikidude> Not yet
[12:34] <Wikidude> The long await continues
[12:34] <jhb1608> lol they need to work faster
[12:34] <Basstard`> ..for what?
[12:35] <jhb1608> the 9.10 stable, silly.
[12:35] <babbio> when will be possible download the 9.10???
[12:35] <alphas> on http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/9.10/ it says it's released
[12:35] <Dr_Willis> babbio:  when its ready
[12:35] <T6> hello les amis
[12:35] <Basstard`> oh, old news already.
[12:35] <furuno> !isitout | babbio
[12:35] <Tetsu1> !isitout
[12:35] <T6> english or french ?
[12:35] <alphas> and it's not rc as far as i see
[12:35] <babbio> but only the beta
[12:35] <Wikidude> alphas : Its RC and not final
[12:35] <furuno> !fr | T6
[12:35] <jhb1608> Ubuntu 9.10 (Karmic Koala) Release Candidate
[12:35] <furuno> T6 : here is english
[12:35] <T6> thanks
[12:35] <jhb1608> it means beta
[12:35] <furuno> or C++ :)
[12:35] <mrwes> alphas, Ubuntu 9.10 (Karmic Koala) Release Candidate
[12:36] <mrwes> :)
[12:36] <jhb1608> still beta
[12:36]  * Wikidude shrinking
[12:36] <alphas> no Ubuntu 9.10 (Karmic Koala)
[12:36] <Wikidude> *is
[12:36] <D3RGPS31> when i play movies, minimize windows, or move windows; they move choppy; but when i play games, they play smooth (WoW, Crysis, Pong) :<
[12:36]  * jhb1608 expands
[12:36] <Wikidude> Cool
[12:36] <alphas> i'll compare it with the rc's md5 when i finished downloading..
[12:36] <alphas> i'd say its the final..
[12:37] <JonathanEllis> I have remote access into my office through a citrix based solution that emulates the desktop applications from the office in a browser using java. It is also the only way I can get access to the office network filing system. It works on a windows machine using internet explorer but not on an ubuntu machine using either firefox or opera. The tech support people have told me to reinstall java which I have done by purging the three java runtime packag
[12:37] <uzi> confirm that its out on some mirrors?
[12:37] <uzi> like nl one
[12:37] <Wikidude> Well , seems like #ubuntu-release-party is gonna overtake #ubuntu in number of users
[12:37] <JonathanEllis> Oops sorry, I posted too soon. Please bear with me.
[12:37] <Wikidude> They seems to grow real fast
[12:37] <KoOoS> Hello !!
[12:37] <X-Sleepy-X> im downloading the real iso 9.10 now
[12:38] <khannz> X-Sleepy-X, are you sure?
[12:38] <D3RGPS31> X-Sleepy-X: you lie.
[12:38] <Wikidude> !hello : KoOoS
[12:38] <X-Sleepy-X> no im  sure
[12:38] <furuno> ...
[12:38] <KoOoS> !!
[12:38] <Wikidude> KoOoS : Hell there
[12:38] <uzi> looks like its gonna be announced less than an hour :D
[12:38] <furuno> !hello | KoOoS
[12:38] <D3RGPS31> OMFG ITS OUT
[12:38] <KoOoS> :)) , great fammelly here :D
[12:38] <D3RGPS31> ITS OUT
[12:38] <frdgfg> hello, how can i check what services are running at system startup ?
[12:38] <D3RGPS31> YAY
[12:38] <FloodBot1> D3RGPS31: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:38] <X-Sleepy-X> i know
[12:38] <isola73dsh33p> DL
[12:38] <X-Sleepy-X> :)
[12:38] <isola73dsh33p> D:
[12:38] <furuno> Wikidude : no it's heaven there :)
[12:38]  * Wikidude totally hates typos >> sorry about that
[12:38] <isola73dsh33p> is it out yet?
[12:38] <awhit> torrent up: http://releases.ubuntu.com/karmic/ubuntu-9.10-desktop-i386.iso
[12:38] <X-Sleepy-X> isola73dsh33p: im downloading it as we speak
[12:39] <snizulis> hi ya kaikkiallllL!!! :)
[12:39] <KoOoS> my first try , i'm still 9.04
[12:39] <Wikidude> !isitout |isola73dsh33p
[12:39] <DaHopi> out
[12:39] <Wikidude> No
[12:39] <isola73dsh33p> D:
[12:39] <D3RGPS31> I'll be asking my 9.10 question nao. :<
[12:39] <snizulis> i did something and ready to rock ;)
[12:39] <isola73dsh33p> it's not?
[12:39] <Alvinware1> only torrent is up already, right? not in the update manager.
[12:39] <D3RGPS31> since it's out :D
[12:39] <ManDay> Is Karmic out?
[12:39] <slacksurf> personally, I can install via apt all the tools in BackTrack in a desktop ubuntu already configured ?
[12:39] <frdgfg> hello, how can i check what services are running at system startup ?
[12:39] <cyptrix> it's 30/10/2009 here... still no karmic :|
[12:39] <Pici> no
[12:39] <ManDay> Is it out, is it out!?
[12:39] <D3RGPS31> ManDay: yes; http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/9.10/
[12:39] <Wikidude> Who would be the 1st one to run 9.10
[12:39] <furuno> !isitout | Manday
[12:39] <ManDay> :D :D
[12:39] <ManDay> OHHHH...
[12:39] <D3RGPS31> ubottu: yes it is :<
[12:39] <ManDay> D: D:
[12:39] <FloodBot1> ManDay: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:39] <alphas> update-manager will take some time, depending on the mirror
[12:40] <Wikidude> Probably me lol
[12:40] <JonathanEllis> I need to install an MS windows browser and a java plugin under wine to try to solve a problem. If I install internet explorer using this information http://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-install-internet-explorer-on-ubuntu8.04 can I then install a java plugin which will work with IE? Background information follows: ﻿I have remote access into my office through a citrix based solution that emulates the desktop applications from the office in a browser u
[12:40] <Wikidude> JonathanEllis : Try asking in #wine
[12:40] <Pici> Its not out
[12:40] <Xpistos|work> YEAH! UBUNTU 9.10 is out YEAH!
[12:40] <Pici> Please stop posting links.
[12:40] <D3RGPS31> Pici: yes it is :<
[12:40] <Ping_> ?!?
[12:40] <Pici> D3RGPS31: NO
[12:40] <X-Sleepy-X> For the record, I'm downloading ubuntu-9.10-desktop-i386.iso, notice it's not RC.
[12:40] <JonathanEllis> Wikidude: Doh! Of course! Thanks
[12:40] <D3RGPS31> Pici: YES
[12:40] <id10t> Xpistos|work, yeah, and many of us are seeding - so get to it already
[12:40] <mrwes> JonathanD, you could install Windows in a Virtualbox
[12:41] <ikke> OMGWEAREDOOMED :)
[12:41] <furuno> JonathanEllis : or use a vm
[12:41] <Ping_> when did that come out?
[12:41] <Pici> Its not out.
[12:41] <X-Sleepy-X> 22:04 last night
[12:41] <Ping_> lol confused
[12:41] <D3RGPS31> Ping_ just afew minute ago; it was put on ftp
[12:41] <frdgfg> hello, how can i check what services are running at system startup and how to set one at startup ?
[12:41] <iceroot> D3RGPS31: look at the titlepage
[12:41] <Ping_> thanks ;)
[12:41] <cba123> D3RGPS31, No, that is the RC, NOT the final
[12:41] <BuGo_laptop> when 9.10 will be released. not just a RC but official release?
[12:41] <JonathanEllis> furuno: Thats the other solution I was considering.
[12:41] <Pici> BuGo_laptop, Karmic will be released some time during the 29th, i.e: there is no exact time. You can await the announcement in #ubuntu-release-party
[12:41] <BuGo_laptop> OK
[12:41] <D3RGPS31> cba123: doesn't have the same hash as rc; doesn't have the rc tag
[12:41] <furuno> frdgfg : System > Pref/Admin > Service
[12:42] <furuno> frdgfg : or something like that, sorry I'm not on Ubuntu :(
[12:42] <Pici> D3RGPS31: Please stop spreading false information. Its not out until the release announcement have been made.
[12:42] <cba123> D3RGPS31, It says RC, that is enough for me.  That is not the final.
[12:42] <D3RGPS31> cba123: no it doesn't
[12:42] <Ping_> ooooooh ok
[12:42] <furuno> JonathanEllis : And I believe, it's much easier to use VM rather than try to "brute-force" wine
[12:42] <jhb1608> well prove it?
[12:43] <jhb1608> I meant prove on RC
[12:43] <D3RGPS31> Pici: how about you look for yourself on http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/9.10/ ; no rc tag and different hash
[12:43] <ikonia> guys ubuntu 9.10 is not officialy out - leave it
[12:43] <Algaeman> So what time does the release happen?
[12:43] <jhb1608> See?
[12:43] <X-Sleepy-X> Download the REAL THING here http://uk.releases.ubuntu.com/9.10/
[12:43] <frdgfg> furuno: nevermind, i've found out : man update-rc.d
[12:43] <X-Sleepy-X> its released
[12:44] <cba123> D3RGPS31, .../releases/9.10/ubuntu-9.10-rc-desktop-i386.iso  ubuntu-9.10-_rc_-desktop-i386.iso  see the RC in there?  That is the link you posted
[12:44] <uzi> people wait for confirmation
[12:44] <ikonia> guyss STOP NOW
[12:44] <furuno> D3RGPS31 : I got redirected to : http://noncdn.releases.ubuntu.com//releases/9.10/
[12:44] <jhb1608> You can't stop
[12:44] <Pici> Don't make me turn this release around.
[12:44] <uzi> please don't seed them yet
[12:44] <Halitech> D3RGPS31, but if you look top of the page you linked to, it says Ubuntu 9.10 (Karmic Koala) Release Candidate
[12:44] <hund> cant wait !!! i want to download the new version
[12:44] <hund> :)
[12:44] <Pici> !party
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> Pici:  i wanna stop for a drink of water!
[12:44] <ikonia> last warning - STOP the 9.10 links
[12:44] <jhb1608> lol I think the servers will be overloaded anyways
[12:45] <D3RGPS31> Halitech: i don't see Release Candidate
[12:45] <Francisco> hey, i'm here :D
[12:45] <tobiasa> torrents working great
[12:45] <smego> hello
[12:45] <smego> can any one help me
[12:45] <furuno> !ask | smego
[12:45] <D3RGPS31> cba123: http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/9.10/ubuntu-9.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[12:46] <dfgas> http://mirrors.cat.pdx.edu/ubuntu-releases/9.10/
[12:46] <uzi> just a curious question, how does noncdn.releases.ubuntu.com differ from releases.ubuntu.com?
[12:46] <smego> i cant chang my resolution of my screen its the max is 800/600!!!!!
[12:46] <Halitech> smego, what video card do you have?
[12:46] <Dr_Willis> smego:  tell the channel your video card type/chipset
[12:46] <furuno> smego : try install your graphic driver, do you have an ATI / NV / Intel card?
[12:46] <Azeotrope> how can you listen the microphone feed over ssh?
[12:46] <smego> its intel
[12:47] <smego> on board
[12:47] <chenwl> Does kopete support IRC ?
[12:47] <id10t> please folks, start seeding!
[12:47] <Bear10_> if i changed video cards after i've installed ubuntu would there be problems?
[12:47] <smego> gigabyte 945
[12:47] <Pici> id10t: its not out
[12:47] <Halitech> !intel | smego
[12:47] <flipp|lappi> my local mirror -> http://hoellenecke.de/flipp/ubuntu/9.10/
[12:47] <dfgas> uh huh
[12:47] <ubuntuisloved> If I install openvpn does that allow me to connect to my machine on that local network?
[12:47] <chenwl> Does kopete support IRC ?
[12:47] <id10t> pici - oh yes it is... :)
[12:47] <furuno> Bear10_ : If you installed from same model and same generation, I don't think so, e.g. from a ATI 5870 to 5850
[12:47] <chenwl> Does kopete support IRC ? 额...
[12:47] <id10t> pici - i'm seeding like a madman on 3 VPS - 2mb up each
[12:47] <dfgas> and the purpose?
[12:47] <jorik> http://ipv6.torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[12:47] <Bear10_> furuno, well im going from nvidia to ati
[12:48] <flipp|lappi> hmm k
[12:48] <SuperDefenderX> Does anyone know how to install Nvidia drivers for a x285 in Ubuntu 8.04 64bit?
[12:48] <smego> sory can u repet ?
[12:48] <furuno> Bear10_ : just remove your driver first before replacing the card
[12:48] <jhb1608> rpeat*
[12:48] <jhb1608> repeat*
[12:48] <Halitech> Bear10_, uninstall the nvidia drivers first, shut down and change the card then boot up and install the new drivers
[12:48] <SikEnCide> SuperDefenderX  install envy-ng
[12:48] <smego> yeas :D
[12:48] <Halitech> Bear10_, what ati card are you getting?
[12:48] <furuno> !nvidia | SuperDefenderX
[12:48] <SuperDefenderX> Sik: Eny doesn't work
[12:48] <Bear10_> Halitech, but how do i install the new ones, does it automatically find it?
[12:48] <SikEnCide> envg-ng will get the driver and install for you
[12:49] <Bear10_> Its an old one
[12:49] <alphas> SuperDefenderX: Take the Nvidia-Install tool, it will compile the kernel module for you
[12:49] <patrickT> running very well 9.10 good release once again
[12:49] <Bear10_> radeon 9250 - 128 mb 64 bit
[12:49] <raj> i do wonder why i386 is targeted instead of i686
[12:49] <Halitech> !envy | SikEnCide
[12:49] <Bear10_> its agp, so im hoping its compatible with this old computer :/
[12:49] <SuperDefenderX> alpha: What's the Nvidia Install tool?
[12:49] <Halitech> Bear10_, you will only have the open source drivers with that card so don't expect 3d support if you are using 9.04
[12:49] <patrickT> !help
[12:50] <patrickT> !isitavailable
[12:50] <JarlG> The release notes on ubuntu.com say that 9.10 is out, but there is not download on the download page... Is there anywhere else it could be downloaded, or is it simply not out yet?
[12:50] <Bear10_> Halitech, I am using 9.04, and im not expecting 3D support, i just need it for surfing the web more than anything
[12:50] <Pici> JarlG: its not out yet
[12:50] <SuperDefenderX> alphas: What's the Nvidia Install tool?
[12:50] <furuno> !isitout | Jar1G
[12:50] <Bear10_> the current card i have right now is 64 bit
[12:50] <patrickT> !isitoutyet
[12:50] <smego> man i had installed the 9.04 and the drivers was ok  and now i using 9.10 and the problem is cam ?!!
[12:50] <calmsiva> i need assistance in installing playonlinux
[12:50] <calmsiva> please advice
[12:50] <Bear10_> Halitech, the current card i have now is 64 mb*
[12:50] <Halitech> Bear10_, then when you boot up it should install the open source drivers
[12:50] <Bear10_> Halitech, assuming i have internet connection right? otherwise what happens
[12:50] <Jahithber> today ubuntu will be out ?
[12:50] <jhb1608> yes
[12:50] <Pici> Jahithber, Karmic will be released some time during the 29th, i.e: there is no exact time. You can await the announcement in #ubuntu-release-party
[12:51] <furuno> !isitout | Jahithber
[12:51] <Halitech> Bear10_, not sure, never done an offline install
[12:51] <smego> i am using kubuntu
[12:51] <alphas> SuperDefenderX: The .run-File from nvidia-website, but better first try the binaries out of the repos
[12:51] <calmsiva> have already downloaded .deb and installed playonlinux (I think) - new to linux
[12:51] <smego> so???????
[12:51] <uzi> anyone confirmed if karmic sums all match on all the release servers?
[12:51] <Bear10_> Halitech, oh okay ill just leave it then, its not a big deal
[12:51] <X-Sleepy-X> 31% downlaoded so far :)
[12:51] <Pici> !support
[12:51] <Pici> !party
[12:52] <Halitech> Bear10_, you could always install it and if it doesn't work put the nvidia card back in
[12:52] <JonathanEllis> furuno: Yes. I agree. This is actually a problem I am trying to solve for another user who is non-technical. She does have virtual box on her machine but no windows CD. Her PC came with vista installed but no operating system CD (dont you just love computer shops). When vista got so slow as to be unusable I suggested she try ubuntu. Initially we tried installing it on a dual boot basis but there was a partitioning problem (wierd partitioning scheme 
[12:52] <Bear10_> Halitech, i suppose
[12:52] <Halitech> Bear10_, check synaptic and see if the radeon or radeonhd package is already installed, if it is you should be fine
[12:52] <dibblego> where is the list of changes for 9.10?
[12:52] <dibblego> !changes
[12:53] <huayra> (j #ubuntu-release-party
[12:53] <Bear10_> Halitech, thanks, one last question is disabling the fancy effects easy?
[12:53] <Halitech> Bear10_, yes, system - preferences - appearances and set it to none
[12:53] <calmsiva> i need advice on installing playonlinux in jaunty
[12:53] <Bear10_> Halitech, thanks thats all i needed to know you've been of great help :)
[12:53] <furuno> JonathanEllis : if that PC is from an OEM (e.g. Dell) I believe that you can request the installation dvd. if it custom built by the shop, you *really* should have the installation dvd or just smack the shop owners, it's your right, you've bought it :)
[12:53] <frantic17> hi all. how can i check is there any malicious software in my system?
[12:54] <Halitech> Bear10_, welcome and good luck with the change
[12:54] <furuno> frantic17 : on your Ubuntu system?
[12:54] <Bear10_> Halitech, PS: I've seen you around in some other channels im not sure which though haha
[12:54] <Bear10_> atleast the nick rings a bell
[12:54] <gdb> frantic17: If it's a Linux machine, there isn't any.
[12:54] <frantic2> gdb: are you sure?
[12:54] <kyentei> http://noncdn.releases.ubuntu.com//releases/9.10/   .. cd's aren't uploaded yet. Been reported the torrent works fine already though.
[12:54] <furuno> frantic2 : I'm 99% agree with gdb
[12:55] <frantic2> gdb: because i'm getting some messages which saying that there could be some malicious software in my system
[12:55] <sks> hi
[12:55] <digen> has Ubuntu 9.10 been released ?
[12:55] <sks> how long do i have to wait
[12:55] <gdb> frantic2: Nothing is 100% sure, but this ain't Windows.  You can't get malicious software on your machine just by hanging about on the Internet.
[12:55] <Pici> digen: no
[12:55] <furuno> frantic2 : can you give the exact notification? it may be a scare ware
[12:55] <gdb> frantic2: What is providing that notice?
[12:55] <jvai> chkrootkit & rkhunter
[12:55] <furuno> frantic2 : if it from a website just ignore it ;)
[12:55] <digen> Pici: any idea when it will be released cause tomorrow is an event and we were going to copy and distribute it to students.
[12:56] <frantic2> gdb: dunno, just little window which says that are could be
[12:56] <Pici> digen: Theres no set time for release, sorry. Just anytime during the 29th
[12:56] <calmsiva> please advice where i can get assistance for installing playonlinux in jaunty
[12:56] <furuno> frantic2 : is it a firefox window?
[12:56] <chatman> http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/9.10/
[12:56] <frantic2> furuno: no
[12:56] <sipior> Pici: i don't envy you today, friend :-)
[12:56] <gdb> frantic2: is it a popup in a web brower?  and does the window decoration look like Windows XP?
[12:56] <furuno> frantic2: screenshots?
[12:56] <frantic2> gdb: i don't have
[12:56] <gdb> furuno: we're thinking along the same lines. ;-)
[12:56] <frantic2> yea
[12:56] <frantic2> sorry, i don't have any screens
[12:56] <digen> chatman: it says 9.10 hmm but could be 9.10 RC ?
[12:56] <JonathanEllis> furuno: Its an Acer machine sold by PC World. You can imagine how difficult it would be getting satisfaction from the drones at PC World so we havent bothered. According to the Acer website all tech support is provided by the retailer for that machine. The other thing is she bought the machine about two or three years ago so it is out of warranty and I dont think she even has the receipt any more. So that is probably a non starter. Besides vista is 
[12:57] <furuno> frantic2 : i believe it's best to ignore, I mean, you're on linux
[12:57] <ilius> frantic17: specially if you use official repositories, dont worry anyway
[12:57] <chatman> noop, just installed @ vmware and it says 9.10 @ system info and cat /etc/issue (no RC to be seen...)
[12:57] <jhb1608> I guess the stable isn't out yet
[12:57] <furuno> JonathanEllis : request directly to Acer, I believe there's some page in the Ubuntu site about how to request windows installation disk from OEM...
[12:57] <frantic2> okay, thanks all for the help!
[12:57] <digen> chatman: thanks for the confirmation !
[12:57] <Prune> I assume there's no Linux version iTunes?
[12:58] <JonathanEllis> furuno: Thanks. I will try that
[12:58] <chatman> you're welcome
[12:58] <jhb1608> Prune, there is alternative programs for itunes
[12:58] <gtt0> hi all! i have a problem: i'm using sftp to upload files directly to /var/www on a webserver. if i own www, that works fine, but then the apache process can't write logs. if apache owns www, i can't copy files to it. i have created a group, and added both myself and www-data to it. then i ran "sudo chown -R myuser.thegroup /var/www". but apache still can't write to a file in that dir
[12:58] <Tesssa> any news on when version 9.10 will be out
[12:58] <Tomas1> When exactly is the stable going to be released?
[12:58] <jauntyjoe> so i have a headless server, console session via vnc and another session via freenx. i "dial-up" internet in console session and just re-logged into that session (timout 10s). ppd is obviously still working but gnome ppp doesn't recognize it
[12:58] <SuperDefenderX> I'm trying to install the Nvidia drivers on 8.04 but all the documentation sucks... The drivers in the repo don't work, and the drivers from Nvidia don't work
[12:58] <Nirkus> !java
[12:59] <aaron111> when will ubuntu karmic come?
[12:59] <furuno> !isitout
[12:59] <aaron111> it said at 29th
[12:59] <tonyyarusso> aaron111: #ubuntu-release-party for that please, also @ Tomas1  Tesssa
[12:59] <Tesssa> the nvidia drivers work on 9.4
[12:59] <kyentei> Aaron111: http://noncdn.releases.ubuntu.com//releases/9.10/
[12:59] <Prune> SuperDefen, there's Nvidea drivers - look in synaptic package manager - do you know how to get there?
[12:59] <gorkhaan> torrents are out
[12:59] <sbt> what file system should I use for an SSD (on my laptop)?
[12:59] <SuperDefenderX> Prune. Those are the ones I installed. They are not working.
[12:59] <sks> im downloading
[12:59] <mushrooms> bonjour
[13:00] <calmsiva> anyone using playonlinux in jaunty
[13:00] <Dr_Willis> sbt:  i recall the netbook threads for the AAO and EEE discuss that and other SSD topics.
[13:00] <furuno> sbt : any filesystem should be good, but I suggest ext3 / 4 (if you're on 9.10)
[13:00] <Prune> jhb160 can those programs even log into the iTunes store and buy stuff?
[13:00] <mushrooms> comment allez vous?
[13:00] <sbt> ok thanks
[13:00] <Pici> !fr | mushrooms
[13:00] <calmsiva> anyone using playonlinux in jaunty
[13:00] <furuno> sbt : you just need to TRIM (I dont know about TRIM support in Linux tought...)
[13:01] <uzi> furuno: journaled fs do more writes than non-journaled, its really slow on my ssd though
[13:01] <Dr_Willis> calmsiva:  why not ask the actual question about 'play on linux' ?
[13:01] <calmsiva> Dr willis : I tried 4 times in 3 minutes
[13:01] <calmsiva> it is going very fast to keep track - for everyone it looks
[13:01] <nexsja> 'ello
[13:01] <furuno> calmsiva : what game do you want to play by the way?
[13:01] <Dr_Willis> calmsiva:  and  the actual question was what?
[13:02] <nexsja> does anybody have an Asus P5K Motherboard?
[13:02] <calmsiva> it is not game alone sir
[13:02] <_jakob__> I have Kubuntu 9.04, how do I upgrade to 9.10 when it's out?
[13:02] <n1k> http://www.chilloutzone.to/video/der-fliegende-amboss.html
[13:02] <furuno> calmsiva : so what apps :) ?
[13:02] <n1k> lol
[13:02] <calmsiva> Dr. Willis : any windows applications incl. games
[13:02] <Halitech> Bear10_, probably not on the channels, I only come here but I'm around the forums alot in the beginner section
[13:02] <SuperDefenderX> Is anyone here using 8.04?
[13:02] <calmsiva> to show it to my office colleagues
[13:02] <whereisit> anyone know the eta of the release?
[13:02] <furuno> _jakob_ : there's should the direction in the ubuntu website
[13:02] <n1k> SuperDefenderX: I am
[13:03] <furuno> !upgrade | _jakob_
[13:03] <SuperDefenderX> nlk: Are you using an Nvidia card as well?
[13:03] <Dr_Willis> calmsiva:  you are asking how well it works?
[13:03] <calmsiva> many are trying to move out of windows
[13:03] <_jakob__> ubottu: thanks
[13:03] <n1k> SuperDefenderX: nah, i'm using a via igp chipset
[13:03] <star3am_> hallo
[13:03] <furuno> calmsiva : maybe try wine instead? for full (if not better) compatibility, you have better luck with VM tought...
[13:03] <star3am_> i'm having a blind moment,
[13:03] <star3am_> i want to install nagios3
[13:04] <furuno> !wine
[13:04] <star3am_> but it says it can't find the package ?
[13:04] <theclaw> hi
[13:04] <SuperDefenderX> !foo
[13:04] <star3am_> can anyone help ?
[13:04] <calmsiva> Furuno ; I do not know how
[13:04] <furuno> !ask | star3am_
[13:04] <calmsiva> please guide me a site
[13:04] <furuno> !wine | calmsiva
[13:04] <Pluto7> when will the update be available today, anyone know???
[13:04] <furuno> calmsiva :  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine
[13:04] <furuno> !isitout : Pluto7
[13:04] <calmsiva> meaning sir - thise entire x-chat is flyig for me
[13:04] <Lycade> I'm trying to troubleshoot an error on my laptop. I've been using Ubuntu for awhile, but the latest updates for 9.04 started a problem. My machine randomly freezes. The mouse still moves, and everything I click on will quickly happen right after the freeze is over. How do I start the trouble shooting process?
[13:05] <calmsiva> Furuno : thanks
[13:05] <star3am_> i want to install nagios3 but apt-get says it can't find the package ? any tips ? | star3am
[13:05] <peaceful> Hi
[13:05] <Pluto7> yes...
[13:05] <peaceful> When does the 9.10 release?
[13:05] <phzin> !amsn
[13:05] <trijntje> !info amsn
[13:05] <jauntyjoe> so nobody here knows about pppd or gnome ppp?
[13:05] <Catalin> hello all
[13:05] <Catalin> any ideea when the new version will be ready for download?
[13:05] <rafiq> AWN is showing 2 icons for each window open...anyone know how to fix it?
[13:05] <Francisco> hi catalin
 when it freenzes, see if you can press Ctrl Alt and F4 or Fwhatever
[13:06] <Lycade> star3am_:  I'll try that.
[13:06] <furuno> star3am_ : sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install nagios3
[13:06] <sipior> tar3am_ : try "apt-cache search nagios" to see a listing of the available nagios-related packages
 try to login and see what is taking alot of cpu with top
[13:06] <Francisco> it seems to be ready for download at releases.ubuntu.com
[13:06] <Pluto7> i wouldnt really know anything, im still a freshmen to this OS
[13:06] <Halitech> peaceful, Catalin when its ready and uploaded it will be ready
[13:06] <Skaperen> Catalin: soon ... according to the website
[13:06] <ks3> star3am_: I'm able to query the nagios3 package. Was that not found for you, or one of it's dependencies?
[13:06] <alphas> Lycade: I'd first check if there any oddities in system-monitor (to much cpu-usage oder full ram)
[13:06] <Skaperen> Catalin: it was 1 day yesterday, so I think soon is real
[13:06] <mameth> do we have to download from ubuntu site
[13:06] <furuno> star3am_ : try update your repo first
[13:07] <star3am_> E: The package nagios3-common needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it. | star3am
[13:07] <mameth> or update manager will be handlingit?
[13:07] <Skaperen> mameth: I would think there be mirrors and torrents
[13:07] <Catalin> "soon" from my oppinion is a polisemantic word
[13:07] <gwiz> #nwscript
[13:07] <Francisco> I really hope Inter cards problem is fixed, or my girlfriend will kill me
[13:07] <Pluto7> you can go to system > administration > update manager or software sources
[13:07] <jauntyjoe> oh sorry my bad, this # is only for asking "when will new version be available"?
[13:07] <Skaperen> Catalin: yeah, it would be nice if they were to give the exact minute :)
[13:07] <zvacet> please use torrent for download
[13:08] <peaceful> what is the difference between release and realease candidate?
[13:08] <Catalin> exactly Skaperen
 apt-get update fine, still same prob Reading package lists... Done The package nagios3-common needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it. | star3am
[13:08] <dib1> .
[13:08] <furuno> peaceful : just like a president and a candidate for a president
[13:08] <zvacet> peaceful: Rc is not polished
[13:08] <furuno> :)
[13:08] <peaceful> oh
[13:08] <Halitech> peaceful, the rc may still have bugs in it that they are working on fixing, the release *shouldn't* have any bugs left in it
[13:08] <marxus> karmic is released right?
[13:09] <Pici> no
[13:09] <Lycade> star3am_ and alphas: I notice another issue. When I go to the upgrade area, Ubuntu suggests a "Partial Upgrade." I'm curious if the two issues are related. (The partial upgrade doesn't seem to do anything, neither does a reboot)
[13:09] <Helsinkiii> hi
[13:09] <tobiasa> marxus: yep
[13:09] <stone1343> peaceful RC is like the final beta
[13:09] <alphas> peaceful: RC is a possible candidate for being released, but it could be that there are still some bugs in it
[13:09] <Skaperen> Halitech: we hope
[13:09] <uzi> marxus: seems like it, but no confirmation yet.
[13:09] <jauntyjoe> fuggle me, this irc is enough to put anyone off using ubuntu
[13:09] <Helsinkiii> how can i reset my alsamixer setting to default
[13:09] <om26er> marxus, not yet
[13:09] <daswitch> any one know when they ubuntu are updating the site and when we can start downloading ?
[13:09] <Pici> tobiasa, marxus: no its not released.
[13:09] <Halitech> Skaperen, thats why I said shouldn't :)
[13:09] <furuno> jauntyjoe : I wonder why?
[13:09] <tonyyarusso> daswitch: See #ubuntu-release-party
[13:09] <nargazz> hello
[13:09] <gt11> When would coala be released??
[13:09] <tonyyarusso> gt11: ^^
[13:09] <sipior> jauntyjoe: heh heh, indeed. unfortunately, today is a bad day to visit #ubuntu, on account of the inconsiderate folks who flood the channel with "when is it out?" nonsense.
[13:09] <Pici> gt11: anytime today
[13:09] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - If you couldn't speak to the channel during the past minutes, please try again now.
[13:09] <tonyyarusso> Remember this is a support channel only - all new release questions go elsewhere.
[13:09] <nargazz> hello, i need help. anyone got time?
 i couldn't get it to wiork with direct3d again, blind, i had to work so i reinstalled
[13:10] <om26er> now release party again says unregged
[13:10] <furuno> !ask | nargazz
[13:10] <Skaperen> Halitech: I suspect helloworld will be _relatively_ bug free by now
[13:10] <alphas> peaceful: in the last Ubuntu-Release (Jaunty) the RC was exactly the same as the final (no changes)
[13:10] <pulpfiction> what's an armel dove release?
[13:10] <nargazz> ok xD
[13:10] <Halitech> Skaperen, one would hope
[13:10] <alphas> peaceful: this time they apparently changed something...
[13:10] <marxus> i don't know if it's okay to say here..but i saw it from the release part of the ubuntu website
[13:10] <Halitech> pulpfiction, they are a type of ARM hardware
[13:10] <rafiq> AWN is showing 2 icons for each window open...anyone know how to fix it?
[13:10] <Skaperen> Halitech: of course GNU's helloworld is very bloated with features
[13:10] <gennaro> ma ubuntu 9.10 quando è disponibile?
[13:11] <gt11> gennaro no
[13:11] <Francisco> genaro: soon
[13:11] <L1nUX1z3R> is karmic released today??
[13:11] <pulpfiction> Halitech: oh ok, i was wondering if that was the one i should get to install from an usb stick
[13:11] <gennaro> e come è possibile
[13:11] <Halitech> pulpfiction, no
[13:11] <alphas> rafiq: which version are you using? Trunk?
[13:11] <sipior> nargazz: simplest if you just lay your question out for us directly
[13:11] <Skaperen> L1nUX1z3R: most likely
[13:11] <gennaro> C'è il fuso orario per ubuntu 9.10?
[13:11] <zvacet> anyone read answers?
[13:11] <L1nUX1z3R> Skaperen, what time??? i cant wait
[13:11] <gennaro> Lo troviamo stasera?
[13:11] <tonyyarusso> linkinus: #ubuntu-release-party please.  Also @ gennaro
[13:11] <Halitech> pulpfiction, you would still want a regular desktop image
[13:11] <Francisco> gennaro: dunno, just have to wait
[13:11] <timdot> L1nUX1z3R, there is no definite time
[13:11] <pulpfiction> Halitech: ok, thanks man
[13:12] <L1nUX1z3R> timdot, :(
[13:12] <alphas> see #ubuntu-release-party ..
[13:12] <markcl> how do you share net connection on ubuntu?
[13:12] <whereisit> 9.11?
[13:12] <Skaperen> L1nUX1z3R: they never say, but I've heard some people suggest around noon ... not sure what timezone
[13:12] <markcl> to an xp machine via lan?
[13:12] <nargazz> my cousin got a very old computer. 256mb ram/700mhz/old hdd(very slow)40gb. i installed ubuntu on the system but it runs horribly. what system is better/faster??? its ubuntu 9.04 or so/gnome
[13:12] <rafiq> 2.6.24-24 generic and how to know about trunk?
[13:12] <grawity> !ics | markcl
[13:12] <markcl> ...
[13:12] <Halitech> nargazz, you may want to look at LXDE
[13:12] <furuno> nargazz : try Xubuntu instead
[13:13] <Halitech> furuno, Xubuntu isn't any lighter then Ubuntu anymore
[13:13] <nargazz> ok thanks 4 support ty
[13:13] <timdot> Halitech, I'm using it and it definitely is
[13:13] <x-kent_> !karmic
[13:13] <xt28> http://noncdn.releases.ubuntu.com/9.10/ looks like a release to me...
[13:13] <furuno> nargazz : or #! linux :)
[13:13] <azexian> anyone have any idea of what kind of time karmic is out?
[13:13] <zvacet> !samba | markcl
[13:13] <timdot> azexian, nope.
[13:13] <azexian> timdot: ok
[13:13] <L1nUX1z3R> azexian, no idea, was asking the same thing
[13:14] <timdot> !isitout
[13:14] <grawity> zvacet: samba is for sharing files and printers, not Internet connectivity.
[13:14] <Lycade> Dang... I think the problem might be related to firefox. Time to play with it. Thanks for the help.
[13:14] <timdot> :)
[13:14] <Halitech> timdot, I didnt find it any faster when doing a full xubuntu install, ripping the guts out and just installing what I needed did make a big difference
[13:14] <turshu> i have wpc54g pcmci card on ubuntu 9.10 and it cant connect my wpa connection what should i do ?
[13:14] <azexian> L1nUX1z3R: hm, i guess we just play the waiting game
[13:14] <zvacet> grawity: sorry,my mistake
[13:14]  * grawity thinks ubottu should send !isitout to everyone who joins...
[13:14] <timdot> fair enough, Halitech
[13:14] <theclaw> when exactly does 9.10 get released? :)
[13:14] <alphas> rafiq: I mean the version of awn?
[13:14] <timdot> Halitech, it makes a nice difference for me, though
[13:14] <timdot> Halitech, is LXDE complete, though?
[13:14] <Yos> What is the version of the kernel in ubuntu 9.04 ?
[13:14]  * erUSUL agrees with grawity ;)
[13:14] <L1nUX1z3R> azexian, best place to wait is #ubuntu-release-party
[13:15] <Beni_> !isitout
[13:15] <furuno> Yos : 2.6.28 if I recall...
[13:15] <erUSUL> or at least brodcast it every minute or so XD
[13:15] <Francisco> I just hope installation, wifi and video goes well or my girl will kill me :(
[13:15] <jauntyjoe> omg this chan should just link directly to #ubuntu-release-party. complete waste of time right now :(
[13:15] <Halitech> timdot, I think they have it listed as an rc but I've tried it on a few Debian installs and it seems nice enough and full featured enough for me
[13:15] <zvacet> Yos:  2.6.28
[13:15] <jtnl> It can be downloaded ubuntu 9.10?
[13:15] <timdot> Halitech, alright then - thanks, I'll try it sometime - i've been interested in it for a while :)
[13:16] <Halitech> timdot, if you have 9.04 I think you can just use sudo apt-get install lxde then log out and change the session
[13:16] <tonyyarusso> jtnl: Not yet.  See #ubuntu-release-party
[13:16] <jtnl> thx tonyyarusso
[13:16] <timdot> Halitech, oh - i'll try that now - thanks :)
[13:17] <Halitech> timdot, welcome
[13:17] <marxus> gents, i got this link from a friend..http://noncdn.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/9.10/
[13:17] <u5penok> is some software center in kubuntu is ? (from the box)
[13:17] <marxus> what is noncdn?
[13:17] <Ryen> aughh
[13:17] <Dr_Willis> marxus:  non canadian perhaps?
[13:17] <Ryen> when will the new ubuntu be out??
[13:18] <Ryen> :(
[13:18] <ActionParsnip1> u5penok: there should be software centre
[13:18] <pulpfiction> what's jaunty?
[13:18] <iceroot> Ryen: when its done
[13:18] <pulpfiction> isn't koala which is being released today?
[13:18] <JediMaster> sweet, thanks marxus
[13:18] <ktzkk> is it the official release?
[13:18] <ActionParsnip1> !jaunty | pulpfiction
[13:18] <iceroot> pulpfiction: ubuntu 9.04
[13:18] <pulpfiction> oh ok :)
[13:18] <Ryen> iceroot: thx??
[13:19] <isola73dsh33p> !isitout
[13:19] <JediMaster> nice, getting 1.26MB/sec from that 9.10 iso link =)
[13:19] <uzi> what just happened to release party room
[13:19] <Beni_> ???
[13:20] <JediMaster> I'm guessing the fact that that link is nocdn.releases that they're ready to release, just waiting for their content delivery network to grab hold of it to distribute the download load across multiple networks...
[13:20] <ktzkk> i want to know when the official release out ? i have wait for it all day
[13:20] <mrfelton> If I dd a hard drive from a desktop machine, and then write the resulting image on to the hard drive of a new server that we have, can I expect it to just work?
[13:20] <Wikidude> !isitout
[13:20] <JediMaster> ktzkk: http://noncdn.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/9.10/
[13:21] <bazhang> ktzkk, join #ubuntu-release-party for the countdown
[13:21] <uzi> mrfelton: no!
[13:21] <Wikidude> Awwww , I am tired of the wait
[13:21] <mrfelton> uzi: no chance in hell? or unlikely?
[13:21] <iceroot> Wikidude: then go to bed
[13:21] <n1k> hahaha http://www.chilloutzone.to/video/balkan-lowrider.html
[13:21] <infinity__> hey people, i can't wait, when is my love out?
[13:21] <iceroot> infinity__: when its done
[13:21] <Shockrates_> my laptop subwoofer doesnt work in ubuntu
[13:22] <Shockrates_> help
[13:22] <Wikidude> iceroot : K goodnite , Sleep well
[13:22] <Beni_> iceroot: And when is it done?
[13:22] <Ian_Corne> uzi: if nothing much has changed, yes :o
[13:22] <furuno> Shockrates_ : only the subwoofer?
[13:22] <infinity__> ice_cream, it's about hours, minute, days ... ?
[13:22] <Shockrates_> furuno: yes
[13:22] <Ian_Corne> if you're not using a diffrent gpu and stuff
[13:22] <furuno> Shockrates_ : not the entire speaker?
[13:22] <Shockrates_> btw this happened in the past too
[13:22] <Ian_Corne> i've done it :p
[13:22] <cba123> iceroot, What happened to "Everytime you ask, it gets pushed back 2 hours?"
[13:22] <iceroot> infinity__: its done when its done (like duke nukem forever, noone knows)
[13:22] <furuno> Shockrates_ : try checking the volume in the mixer
[13:22] <mezquitale> !isitoutyet
[13:22] <Shockrates_> furuno: there is no problem with the speakers and the sub. both worked in windows
[13:23] <mezquitale> !upgrade
[13:23] <Shockrates_> furuno: i have everything on
[13:23] <areay> hello... how can i connect to mobile broadband using /etc/network/interfaces or via the command line?
[13:23] <creaux> GreatDane: hi
[13:23] <Shockrates_> furuno: i have 2.1. and in the mix is stereo selected i think this si ok
[13:24] <om26er> party is hot
[13:24] <uzi> mrfelton: sorry for the direct answer, depends on the fs. it didn't work for fedora. i think its due to vlm
[13:24] <joanadarc> where can I get help? Where can I find configurations for pulseaudio? (running 9.10)
[13:25] <mrfelton> uzi: ah, I'm looking at doing this with fedora
[13:25] <Ryen> UBUNTU"S OUT!!!
[13:25] <phzin> +e means?
[13:25] <Ryen> :D
[13:25] <Ryen> lol juju
[13:25] <Ryen> I just entered too
[13:25] <juju2143> lol
[13:25] <juju2143> w00t
[13:25] <juju2143> ...
[13:25] <Beni_> not yet?
[13:25] <uzi> Ryen: officially announced?
[13:25] <juju2143> wtf you done?
[13:25] <bazhang> not yet
[13:26] <ram__> Ryen:  Does that mean, ubuntu 9.10  iso available now ?  (I do not mean the RC)
[13:26] <erUSUL> !isitout
[13:26] <juju2143> is it the rc who are on releses.ubuntu.org?
[13:26] <Beni_> no...
[13:26] <juju2143> i mean .com
[13:26] <ActionParsnip1> ram__: there have been non rc ISOs available for ages
[13:26] <spilakviktor_> i would like my new 9.10
[13:26] <spilakviktor_> :-)
[13:26] <Ryen> yeah
[13:26] <Ryen> iso is available
[13:26] <erUSUL> !party
[13:26]  * juju2143 is confused
[13:26] <tonyyarusso> juju2143: staging and testing.  #ubuntu-release-party to wait for the announcement.
[13:26] <Ryen> http://noncdn.releases.ubuntu.com//9.10/
[13:26] <tonyyarusso> also @ Ryen
[13:26] <cba123> ram__, EVERYONE will say when it is out, not just 1 person
[13:26] <juju2143> thx tonyyarusso
[13:27] <spilakviktor_> i'm waiting, but my ubuntu can not upgrade me
[13:27] <chromic> !isitout
[13:27] <sun`> IM waiting for it to release :(
[13:27] <spilakviktor_> when is it possible?
[13:27] <sun`> I think its going to be at 9.10
[13:27] <calmsiva> Dr. Willis & Furuno :  thanks I have installed Wine
[13:27] <om26er> sun`, come to #ubuntu-release-party
[13:27] <calmsiva> I have installed C++ IDE
[13:28] <sun`> already their.
[13:28] <Beni_> 9.10 which timezone?
[13:28] <Beni_> NY?
[13:28] <calmsiva> and also a small pdf 2 word application (of Windows)
[13:28] <Beni_> 9+7=16
[13:28] <Beni_> in my zone
[13:28] <Karmic-Koala> ohi
[13:28] <Karmic-Koala> it's out
[13:28] <Karmic-Koala> :-)
[13:28] <tonyyarusso> Karmic-Koala: No.  #ubuntu-release-party to wait for it.
[13:28] <tonyyarusso> THIS IS STILL A SUPPORT CHANNEL ONLY.
[13:28] <Karmic-Koala> yeah lol
[13:29] <iceroot> tonyyarusso: yes
[13:29] <areay> does anyone know if it's possible to connect to mobile broadband using the command line?
[13:29] <juju2143> hey
[13:29] <jack_spratt> what time is karmic out?
[13:29] <raj> areay: it is. but you must find out how.
[13:29] <dib_> well, there's no party in #ubuntu-release-party
[13:29] <aoupi> areay: havn't done it myself, but look into using wvdial
[13:30] <areay> aoupi, raj: thanks guys :P
[13:30] <tavasti> areay, I use wvdial for it
[13:30] <rafiq_> alphas: are u there..
[13:30] <areay> i'll check that out
[13:30] <jack_spratt> dib_: but it is coming gout today?
[13:30] <areay> thanks tavasti
[13:30] <juju2143> tonyyarusso: you muted me?
[13:30] <root_> hi everybody, what the architect of pentium D 805 ?
[13:30] <Wikidude> Wow , #ubuntu-release-party is really going mad
[13:31] <webpigeon_> Wikidude: you sounds almost supprised
[13:31] <juju2143> nvm
[13:31] <jack_spratt> Wikidude: so i see
[13:31] <polarbear> where is a lik to DL karmic >.<
[13:31] <Wikidude> webpigeon_ : No , they are just bursting out lol
[13:32] <furuno> root_ : 64 bit, source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentium_D
[13:32] <ActionParsnip1> root_: looks like its 64bit here
[13:32] <ActionParsnip1> !karmic | polarbear
 Shockrates_: if your laptop actually has a sub-woofer, you would be very foolish indeed to enable it. the vibrations will almost certainly damage the hard disk
[13:32] <Shockrates_> is this correct?
[13:32] <sakhi> ubottu: ta
[13:32] <Pluto7> http://news.softpedia.com/news/Ubuntu-9-10-Officially-Released-125578.shtml
[13:33] <root_> furuno: I khow it is 64 bit but don't know it is i486, presscott, or i686 ?
[13:33] <Wikidude> !koala
[13:33] <sakhi> ta is short for thanks :)
[13:33] <Wikidude> !lynx
[13:33] <webpigeon_> Pluto7: they're a bit premature
[13:33] <Wikidude> I meant the 10.4 release lol
[13:33] <zippy27> Isn't Flock available for Linux as well now...  I know it's Firefox + proprietary extensions, but some people like it
[13:33] <Pluto7> word
[13:34] <Ziber> How can I get "mail" to work with postfix?
[13:34] <ZummiG777> Question: I've got an Ubuntu 9.04 system (quad core 8GB ram).  During the day the system will essentially soft-lock for 5-10 minutes.  Watching top while this happens the system will slowly increase the load to 10-17 but no process will show up saying it is consuming any additional resources.  There is no IO wait or cpu cycles consumed.  Any ideas?
[13:34] <Wikidude> zippy : You could probably run it with wine
[13:34] <dollarbang1> I've screwed the pooch this time. Can someone tell me how to overwrite the password so that I can edit the boot. I want to remove some of the older updates. thanks
[13:34] <Wikidude> !wine > zippy
[13:34] <Ziber> !mail
[13:35] <Guest89304> hi all
[13:35] <Ziber> !postfix
[13:35] <Ziber> !mailserver
[13:35] <zealiod> im having a problem accepting vlan traffic from my network - can anyone help?
[13:35] <zealiod> I have configured the vlans, but i can't ping anything on the vlan
[13:36] <dib_> !koala
[13:36] <ks3> zeltak1: You've configured the VLANs on the PC or the switch ports?
[13:36] <hansfbaier> I have a problem with karmic: svn update with any svn+ssh-repository returns with: svn: Network connection closed unexpectedly
[13:37] <calmsiva> can i install pagemaker in wine ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
[13:37] <ks3> whoops
[13:37] <Guest89304> good
[13:38] <Pici> !appdb | calmsiva
[13:38] <sks> waiting
[13:38] <ks3> zealiod: You've configured the VLANs on the PC or the switch ports?
[13:38] <Ventus> hey, will the ports be released at the same time as the normal versions?
[13:38] <calmsiva> ubottu : thanks
[13:38] <calmsiva> i will come back to you
[13:38] <xt28> !isisout
[13:38] <xt28> !isitout
[13:38] <Beni_> !itisout
[13:39] <zealiod> ks3: I've configured them on the switch, on the trunk port - and i've added the vlan to the server also...
[13:39] <xt28> I am pretty sure it is...
[13:39] <calmsiva> ubottu : in my chat why is your colour changing
[13:39] <sks> mmmm....how long should i wait
[13:39] <xt28> Check out releases.ubuntu.com
[13:39] <calmsiva> from yellow to green
[13:39] <tonyyarusso> xt28: NOT final until announced.  Also, not for support channels.
[13:39] <zealiod> ks3: i can do an ifconfig and see it there - but when i ping something on that vlan, nada - nothing...
[13:40] <Pici> calmsiva: Because the bot is using your name it its reply.
[13:40] <VonLoghausen> since 9.10 isn't officially out yet, can anyone tell me what I will end up with if I do dist-upgrade -d ?
[13:40] <ks3> zealiod: And your routing table shows the IP you're trying to ping is being routing to the VLAN interface?
[13:40] <xt28> tonyyarusso: Sorry about that.
[13:40] <mojo_> PEOPLE! KARMIC WILL BE OUT SOON! PLEASE JOIN #ubuntu-release-party NOW!!
[13:40] <pisan> it is officialy out VonLoghausen
[13:41] <zealiod> ks3: OK.... unpack that - that maybe what i've missed
[13:41] <VonLoghausen> hmmm in #ubuntu-release-party they keep telling it isn't
[13:41] <iceroot> VonLoghausen: it is not out yet
[13:41] <xvii69> Anybidy having wireless issues with the new release?
[13:41] <blackxored> it's possible to upgrade a 32 bits system to 64 bits using the iso image?
[13:41] <ks3> zealiod: If you've assigned an IP to the interface, it should happen automatically (as long as you have separate networks on each VLAN)
[13:41] <Halitech> blackxored, no
[13:41] <iceroot> blackxored: no
[13:41] <zealiod> i've added the eth1.222 interface to my iptables routing rules.... to accept inbound and outbound traffic....
[13:41] <iceroot> blackxored: you have to reinstall
[13:41] <pisan> releases.ubuntu.com/9.10 not hard..
[13:42] <pisan> switched from RC one hour ago
[13:42] <iceroot> pisan: there is rc in the tittle
[13:42] <VonLoghausen> so if I the dist-upgrade, I'll just get the rc?
[13:42] <iceroot> pisan: also this is the support-channel
[13:42] <pisan> no over here
[13:42] <dorgan> so after upgrading to 9.10 yesterday i cannot connect to the wireless network here at work...it sees the other wireless networks around here but does not see ours and when i try to connect to it as a hidden network, after I supply the credentials it just sits there trying to connect
[13:42] <zealiod> ks3: I've assigned an ip to the interface yes - but... there are multiple pieces of equipment coming through that vlan
[13:42] <blackxored> I have karmic through upgrades but I want 64 bits for developing so ???
[13:42] <Messi> juego de boxeo online http://www.kobox.org/kobox-fande-Nourine.html
[13:42] <Halitech> blackxored, do you have a seperate /home partition?
[13:42] <VonLoghausen> blackxored: re-install
[13:42] <blackxored> Halitech, yes I have a lvm setup
[13:43] <pisan> iceroot just saw people asking so answered
[13:43] <Halitech> blackxored, then reinstall using the 64bit cd
[13:43] <blackxored> Halitech, and a local apt-cache but what's hard for me is to reinstall
[13:43] <zealiod> ks3: im trying to ping one of them
[13:43] <jauntyjoe> cant he just install it twice? 32+32=64
[13:43] <cappiz> i have a package that breaks my apt-get dist-upgrade
[13:44] <dorgan> so after upgrading to 9.10 yesterday i cannot connect to the wireless network here at work...it sees the other wireless networks around here but does not see ours and when i try to connect to it as a hidden network, after I supply the credentials it just sits there trying to connect
[13:44] <chillitom> how can i use update-manager to upgrade?  i tried running it with -c.
[13:44] <Halitech> blackxored, well, I've heard of a way but it isn't supported and I know if I even suggest it in here I'll get my butt kicked
[13:44] <dorgan> chillitom: is -d
[13:44] <ks3> zealiod: If you do 'ip route get the.ip.address', does it show that it will be routed to your eth1.222 interface?
[13:44] <cappiz> i was told to use apt-get -f install ... it sill breaks. How can i do this operation but remove the specific package from being installed?
[13:44] <chillitom> dorgan, isn't that for development releases?
[13:44] <mkargar__> how to install Dell Moni USB Modem(Dialup!) in kubuntu 9.04?(base on Lucant chip!)
[13:44] <zetheroo1> is there a tool that can show the bandwidth usage on the network?
[13:44] <dorgan> no that means distribution upgrade
[13:45] <dorgan> so after upgrading to 9.10 yesterday i cannot connect to the wireless network here at work...it sees the other wireless networks around here but does not see ours and when i try to connect to it as a hidden network, after I supply the credentials it just sits there trying to connect
[13:45] <blackxored> Halitech, i know karmic is probably the most "clean-install please" release, so now for 64 bits is even harder, do you know about some get-selections and set-selections I could use for reinstalling?
[13:45] <mkargar__> *mini
[13:45] <mic69> ciao a tutti
[13:45] <JediMaster> hey guys, I've got several servers, local and remote that I'd like to upgrade to Karmic shortly (probably local first). Seeing as ext4 is now default (except for upgrades), is it worth me thinking of backing up files and doing a fresh install with ext4 rather than upgrading ext3->4? The local machine is actually a hacked "upgrade" from and old debian to ubuntu 6.04 onwards to 9.04
[13:45] <Pici> !it | mic69
[13:45] <usuario_> hola
[13:45] <usuario_> holaaaaaaaa
[13:45] <usuario_> holaaaaaaaaa
[13:45] <Pici> !es | usuario_
[13:45] <zealiod> ks3: nope - it tells me its coming through eth1
[13:46] <Halitech> blackxored, there was a thread on the forum about marking packages and getting a list of whats installed so you can use it to reinstall but never tried it
[13:46] <zealiod> ks3: not eth1.222
[13:46] <chillitom> upgrade tells me this is still a beta release.. is that correct?
[13:46] <Ziber> Why cant I get "mail" to work with postfix?
[13:46] <raj> JediMaster: if you can manage it, i'd advise doing a clean install. if not, you probably wouldn't notice a difference between ext3 and ext4 unless you get some serious load.
[13:46] <ks3> zealiod: Aha... then either routing is incorrent or you're using the same subnet on multiple interfaces
[13:46] <Halitech> chillitom, currently yes
[13:46] <chillitom> okay thanks
[13:46] <chillitom> eta?
[13:46] <raj> chillitom: everything should be working in about 3 hours
[13:46] <josh_> hey there?
[13:46] <dorgan> so after upgrading to 9.10 yesterday i cannot connect to the wireless network here at work...it sees the other wireless networks around here but does not see ours and when i try to connect to it as a hidden network, after I supply the credentials it just sits there trying to connect
[13:46] <doktoreas> hello folks..is there any info on 9.10's release?
[13:47] <zealiod> ks3: yes - the same subnet
[13:47] <chillitom> cheers
[13:47] <raj> doktoreas: three hours
[13:47] <JediMaster> raj: on the local server, it's just for testing, very little load, the remote servers are LTS to 9.04 upgraded machines, and they get hefty loads
[13:47] <doktoreas> thx raj
[13:47] <sks> http://noncdn.releases.ubuntu.com//releases/9.10/
[13:48] <dorgan> so after upgrading to 9.10 yesterday i cannot connect to the wireless network here at work...it sees the other wireless networks around here but does not see ours and when i try to connect to it as a hidden network, after I supply the credentials it just sits there trying to connect
[13:48] <mkargar__> how to install Dell Mini USB Modem(Dialup!) in ubuntu 9.04?(base on Lucant chip!)
[13:48] <jauntyjoe> dorgan: too much general info. try to be more specific. what wlan card, what wlan ap, what wlan security etc etc?
[13:48] <raj> JediMaster: well actually if they're just used as servers it might be best to leave them running 8.04.3 LTS
[13:48] <blackxored> Halitech, ok I think I remember
[13:48] <ks3> zealiod: Each interface should be a separate subnet, otherwise you run into issues (like you're seeing).
[13:48] <dorgan> jauntyjoe: the lan card itself is working it sees other networks....but its a d-link dwa-140 WPA security ap NETGEAR
[13:48] <blackxored> raj, +1
[13:49] <rafiq> rythmbox shows not playing for every track..anyone knows hw to fix it?
[13:49] <zealiod> ks3: can they have the same ip address?
[13:50] <sanketmedhi> ubottu: 9.10
[13:50] <mojo_> PEOPLE! KARMIC WILL BE OUT SOON! PLEASE JOIN #ubuntu-release-party NOW!!
[13:50] <zealiod> ks3: so, can you suggest 2 subnets that i could use?
[13:50] <ks3> zealiod: Wouldn't recommend it. If you just want to test the VLAN setup as is, run "ip route add ip.address.youre.pinging dev eth1.222 && ip route flush cache", then try the ping again.
[13:50] <JediMaster> raj: I like living life on the edge, they do well on 9.04 at the moment =)
[13:50] <sanketmedhi> mojo_: when is soon? its already 29th
[13:50] <raik> mojo how to join?
[13:50] <mic69> °
[13:50] <rafiq> rythmbox shows not playing for every track..anyone knows hw to fix it?
[13:50] <mic69> °
[13:50] <calmsiva> HOW TO JOIN #UBUNTU-RELEASE-PARTY - IN CHAT
[13:50] <JediMaster> raj: also they're behind a reverse proxy, so I can take one machine down at a time for upgrade without taking sites down
[13:50] <calmsiva> PLEASE SHOW ME
[13:51] <Pici> !caps
[13:51] <iceroot> calmsiva: /join #ubuntu-release-party
[13:51] <ks3> zealiod: It depends on your current setup. In house, we use 192.168.1.0/24, 10.0.0.0/21, etc...
[13:51] <sanketmedhi> calmsiva:  type /join #ubuntu-release-party
[13:51] <calmsiva> i am sorry
[13:51] <herb_> hello everybody!
[13:51] <iceroot> calmsiva: no need to be sorry
[13:51] <johndolmy> hi all
[13:51] <calmsiva> join #ubuntu-release-party
[13:51] <Halitech> !hi | johndolmy
[13:51] <dorgan> jauntyjoe: any ideas?
[13:51] <iceroot> calmsiva: start with /
[13:51] <zealiod> ks3: i'm looking to add 1000 vlans - one for each port on 10s of switches
[13:51] <Orangez> join #linux
[13:52] <jauntyjoe> "and MAY break" - as in "MAY break" our installations or as in may be released soon?
[13:52] <raj> JediMaster: haha your call. ahh that's good for a fresh install then. it's almost always better to format over when switching FSes. you miss out on some of the ext4 new features if you don't iirc. the ext4 wikipedia article is a good place to check if you think ext4 works for you.
[13:52] <zealiod> ks3: so we can use 801.11q tagging to find out where traffic is coming from
[13:52] <jauntyjoe> no sorry, dorgan
[13:52] <calmsiva> iceroot : what do you mean (i am new to IRC CHAT & linux)
[13:52] <Halitech> jauntyjoe, may break your installs
[13:52] <johndolmy> at which time will can be downloaded ubuntu 9.10?
[13:52] <herb_> i've just installed ms core fonts. Do I have to restart my computer or is there any other way to refresh my look? thanx!
[13:52] <raj> calmsiva: type /join instead of join
[13:52] <iceroot> calmsiva: to type a command  use /   so its /join #ubuntu-release-party
[13:52] <tonyyarusso> johndolmy: Join #ubuntu-release-party to wait for the announcement
[13:52] <Ramunas> johndolmy: when its released, its not yet.
[13:53] <raj> herb_: you have to make sure your theme is using the font you want
[13:53] <lodder> I have setup my server as a router with iptables and a transparent proxy, but I have also virtualbox running headless as bridge and I now get no route to host, did i forgot something?
[13:53] <JediMaster> raj: yeah I read through it a few months ago, I've also heard some horror stories with ext4 failing dramatically in a few cases, has it matured a little since then?
[13:53] <raj> herb_: try to select the font you want in settings and if it's not there you have to update your font cahce
[13:53] <johndolmy> ok, another question, how nautilus on ubuntu can view unmounted internal volumes and partitions without edit fstab manually?
[13:53] <herb_> raj, how can I update the font cache?
[13:54] <raj> JediMaster: i think you'll get different answers depending on who you talk to. personally i'm sticking with ext3 for a while. but then again i'd be running 8.04.3 in your position so maybe our stances differ.
[13:54] <Halitech> johndolmy, they should show up under the places menu
[13:54] <ks3> zealiod: It sounds like you'd want to bridge between VLANs if that's really the route you want to go
[13:54] <vtec> hello ever since I upgraded from 9.04 to 9.10 my internet speed is ridiculously slow...the firefox broswer is a COW, my torrent speeds are kind of normal though, has anyone experienced and/or fixed this?
[13:54] <SJr> KKK  HAS BEEN RELEASED!
[13:54] <zealiod> ks3: can you exaplin what that means...
[13:54] <raj> herb_: do you not see the font in any programs?
[13:54] <mrintegrity> does ubuntu support hdmi output on intel chipsets?
[13:55] <Ziber> Why cant I get "mail" to work with postfix?
[13:55] <JediMaster> raj: I bet if you used debian in the past you stuck to "stable" right? I ran most of mine on testing, and even one or two on unstable for a while, rarely had issues other than a few apt-get package conflicts that were easy enough to fix
[13:55] <johndolmy> what I have to do for view unmounted partitions on nautilus?
[13:55] <chosig> Hey a generic console question, I want to combine two files like cat file1.txt >> file2.txt - but i don't want the first line of file1 to be copied, is there a smart way to use sed or similar?
[13:55] <hlm> vtec, I've read somewhere that IPv6 being enabled can give you slow interner performance
[13:55] <mrintegrity> chosig: cut
[13:55] <tzolkin> I install the tp_smapi and hdaps on my thinkpad R400, It's work , but I write a program to read the status of my hard drive, it says the hard drive always running even when i shake my laptop... it seems that the protection program does't work?
[13:55] <vtec> hlm, where can i disable this? and do i need IPv6? what is it?
[13:55] <raj> JediMaster: yeah stable with a few select testing packages
[13:55] <herb_> raj, i see. but my firefox doesn't use them
[13:56] <Jan_Fisker> Hello, I have a problem
[13:56] <Jan_Fisker> Could not download all repository indexes
[13:56] <Jan_Fisker> The repository may no longer be available or could not be contacted because of network problems. If available an older version of the failed index will be used. Otherwise the repository will be ignored. Check your network connection and ensure the repository address in the preferences is correct.
[13:56] <FloodBot1> Jan_Fisker: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:56] <hlm> vtec, IPv6 is the newer version of IP (the protocol used by internet)
[13:56] <vtec> hlm, do you think it would be best to disable it?
[13:56] <johndolmy> what I have to do for view unmounted internal partitions on nautilus?
[13:56] <hoss> anyone here with knowledge of getting wireless to work with Acer Aspire One?
[13:57] <hlm> vtec, yeah, you can disable IPv6 is not widely used still
[13:57] <hlm> vtec, at least not that I know of
[13:57] <hlm> vtec, most of the internet is still IPv4 (the version prior to IPv6)
[13:57] <raj> herb_: go to System -> Preferences -> Appearance then click on the Font tab
[13:57] <vtec> hlm, care to teach me how to do so mate?
[13:58] <t2ttmp> hdmi audio wont work eather
[13:58] <tzolkin> Anyone use the APS for thinkpad?
[13:58] <johndolmy> what I have to do for view unmounted internal partitions on nautilus?
[13:58] <hlm> vtec, try a google search for: ubuntu disable ipv6
[13:58] <honda> i'm crazy so click refresh http://www.ubuntu.com/ in every single seconds.
[13:58] <t2ttmp> on an at3n7a-i
[13:58] <Bear10_> hmm Ubuntu didn't install my audio drivers!
[13:58] <johndolmy> what I have to edit?
[13:58] <Beni___>  http://www.kubuntu.org/news/9.10-release
[13:58] <tstebut> Hello, I'm partitionning, and I wonder why I hsould do extended partition ?
[13:58] <raj> honda: it will be out in 3 hours
[13:58] <Halitech> vtec, open firefox and type this in the address bar about:config
[13:58] <josh_> guys help me out, i cant use web cam in chat
[13:58] <johndolmy> what I have to edit or install or configure?
[13:58] <herb_> raj thanx!
[13:59] <johndolmy> what I have to edit or install or configure to view unmounted internal partitions on nautilus?
[13:59] <raj> herb_: you should see your fonts in the list. if you don't tell me.
[13:59] <t2ttmp> so you dont run into partition limit ?
[13:59] <hoss> I have read that using the latest madwifi drivers will work on my Acer Aspire One, but I cannot see the wireless network.  The wifi LED blinks upon startup though.
[13:59] <Halitech> vtec, then filter on network.dns.disableIPv6 and set it to true by clicking on it
[13:59] <raj> tstebut: extended partitions are if you need more than 4 partitions
[13:59] <ubuntu_> how do i do a admin file edit?
[13:59] <ActionParsnip1> honda: i have an infinite script running: while true; do sudo fullupdate; sleep 15; done
[13:59] <hlm> vtec, but to easean things for you, the command line should look like somehting: sudo sysctl -w net.ipv6.conf.all.disable_ipv6=1
[13:59] <raj> hoss: you might try the netbook remix when it gets released today
[13:59] <ActionParsnip1> ubuntu_: gksudo gedit
[13:59] <raik> raj someone said four hours four hour earlier.
[14:00] <tstebut> raj: thanks
[14:00] <Cliffer> !party
[14:00] <raj> raik: it's 3 hours for sure now
[14:00] <gt11> hadn't ubuntu came out yet?
[14:00] <pjammer> has anyone updated their ruby from the default apt-get 1.8.6 patch111
[14:00] <hlm> vtec, also Halitech's way of doing should get you going, but it disables IPv6 only for Firefox
[14:00] <hoss> raj: whatdo you mean?  Is there going to be a release specifically for notebooks?
[14:00] <raj> ActionParsnip1: you might want to set up a a while with an if to break, or else that will run forever
[14:00] <hlm> vtec, sysctl will disable it for the entire OS
[14:00] <raj> hoss: yes there is! it's called Ubuntu Netbook Remix
[14:00] <raj> hoss: do you know how to torrent?
[14:00] <ActionParsnip1> raj: ctrl+c is sufficient
[14:01] <hlm> vtec, and don't worry, it is perfectly un-doable and fairly safe to do :)
[14:01] <Jan_Fisker> I have a problem with the update manager
[14:01] <josh_> what time is the release?
[14:01] <hoss> raj: yes, but torrents are not permitted on this wifi connection.
[14:01] <vtec> hlm, thankyou alot bud
[14:01] <dhiaeldeen> are there any program that converts a function into a sound ?
[14:01] <t2ttmp> i had loads of dependancies errors yesterday with rc
[14:01] <vtec> Halitech, thankyou also mate I appreciate it
[14:01] <raj> ActionParsnip1: ah ;). i tend to set things up like that then go to sleep
[14:01] <dhiaeldeen> i want to hear the sin and cosine ...
[14:01] <johndolmy> what I have to edit or install or configure to view unmounted internal partitions on nautilus?
[14:01] <ActionParsnip1> seems no one has ubuntu problems today
[14:01] <dhiaeldeen> sine and cosine
[14:01] <raj> hoss: i mention that because torrents are the fastest way to get new ubuntu releases.
[14:01] <feisar> is there a release channel?
[14:01] <jrib> dhiaeldeen: I believe audacity will let you do that
[14:01] <Jan_Fisker> "could not download all repository indexes"
[14:01] <erUSUL> !party | feisar
[14:01] <textureglitch> we'll be flooded tomorrow when everyone can't get the new version working ;)
[14:01] <raj> feisar: #ubuntu-release-party
[14:02] <ActionParsnip1> feisar: /join #ubuntu-release-party
[14:02] <johndolmy> what I have to edit or install or configure to view unmounted internal partitions on nautilus?
[14:02] <ActionParsnip1> textureglitch: tell me about it :(
[14:02] <hoss> raj:  right on, other than network manager, is there anyway to see wireless netowrks?  I think the card is working, I just cant see the networks.
[14:02] <feisar> ActionParsnip1: thanks
[14:02] <ks3> zealiod: You can bridge rather than route between interfaces. It makes all the interfaces seem to be on the same network. However, since VLANs are used to separate traffic, setting up VLANs and then bridging them together seems a bit.... odd. What is it you're trying to accomplish again?
[14:02] <larry1> has 9.10 launched yet?
[14:02] <raj> larry1: 3 hours
[14:03] <Ramunas> larry1: #ubuntu-release-party
[14:03] <larry1> raj: thanks
[14:03] <raj> hoss: i'm sorry, i don't have much experience with that. i do suggest upgrading to 9.10 and seeing if it fixes anything.
[14:03] <Sensiva> textureglitch yeah I am getting ready to flood here tomorrow, I have been waiting for this release since Hardy
[14:03] <hoss> raj: is 9.10 the next major upgrade (i.e. 18 month support)?
[14:03] <ax-ax> hello
[14:04] <raj> hoss: yes. ubuntu gets released on the 4th and 10th month of the year.
[14:04] <rasiq> out < http://ubuntu-mirror.cs.colorado.edu/releases/karmic/ubuntu-9.10-desktop-i386.iso
[14:04] <john_saint> hi all. im new to ubuntu. do you have a beginner channel cus in need of dire help!
[14:04] <raj> rasiq: not officially
[14:05] <hoss> raj: man, I wish I was home to update my pc.  I guess I will have to wait...
[14:05] <ax-ax> i want some help with locales - I'm swedish, but I don't want to use swedish. I want to use english for system language, but swedish time system and alphabetic sorting
[14:05] <nexsja> john_saint, go ahead and ask your question here :>
[14:05] <the_madman> john_saint: This is the general support channel, what do you need help with
[14:05] <the_madman> ?
[14:05] <m3onh0x84> how to know my intel architect ?
[14:05] <mohan1> @ax-ax change the language preference
[14:06] <nexsja> m3onh0x84, use x86 if you've got a dual core cpu
[14:06] <Jan_Fisker> is it because of the release that my update manager dosn't work
[14:06] <sanketmedhi> will the DVD iso release today?
[14:06] <john_saint> well i loaded up ubuntu for the first time ever after spending so many years with that so called other os comapny. ive found ubuntu easy and very useful apart from 1 thing.... i cant seem to burn dvds. keeps telling me so many plugins missing yet i cant find them. im an absolute bigginer here!
[14:06] <tonyyarusso> sanketmedhi: sometime, yes.  #ubuntu-release-party to wait
[14:06] <jacobian__> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[14:06] <jacobian__>   w32codecs: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.9) but 2.7-10ubuntu4 is to be installed
[14:06] <jacobian__> Is that a known problem?
[14:06] <raj> hoss: yeah. when you get home you can either upgrade through synaptic or get the ubuntu-9.10-netbook-remix-i386.iso.torrent and follow these directions https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[14:06] <furyfire> will there be any release today :)
[14:06] <hoss> can anyone recommend a connection manager for assisting with wireless setup?
[14:07] <ax-ax> mohan1: right now, my locale says LANG=en_GB and LC_CTYPE=sv_SE.UTF8 and so on, but it still sorts files with ä before b
[14:07] <sanketmedhi> tonyyarusso: I was there, remember
[14:07] <nexsja> john_saint, what app are you using?
[14:07] <grawity> ax-ax: LC_COLLATE?
[14:07] <sanketmedhi> tonyyarusso: now I am not thanks to you
[14:07] <Guest55616> local
[14:07] <hoss> raj:  I will have to wait until March, so it will be some time :(
[14:07] <john_saint> i have tried them all, even the nero one.
[14:07] <tonyyarusso> sanketmedhi: Shouldn't have done whatever you did then.  #ubuntu-ops to discuss.
[14:07] <Guest55616> what?
[14:07] <ax-ax> grawity: also swedish
[14:07] <nexsja> john_saint, have you tried Brasero?
[14:07] <tzolkin> I install the tp_smapi and hdaps on my thinkpad R400, It's work , but I write a program to read the status of my hard drive, it says the hard drive always running even when i shake my laptop... it seems that the protection program does't work?
[14:08] <zeeble> Hi. where can i find a list of mirrors where the karmic 64 bit image is out?
[14:08] <UKtour> when is the nextr
[14:08] <Guest84923> hi, I need some urgent help
[14:08] <Beni___> zeeble: it isn't out yet
[14:08]  * zeeble looked in a few but didnt find the image
[14:08] <Azeotrope> how can i receive microphone feed over ssh?
[14:08] <UKtour> when is the next ubuntu supposed to come out?
[14:08] <Beni___> 84923: What is the problem?
[14:08] <zeeble> Beni___: umm, lifehacker says it is
[14:08] <john_saint> yes. that was the one that kept telling me couldnt copy because of missing plugins yet when i go to the plugin section everything is checked
[14:08] <diduu> ehm. should apt-get dist-upgrade upgrade to todays release?
[14:08] <tstebut> I want a partition for LVM , should I use primary or extended ?
[14:08] <Beni___> zeeble: Officaially not
[14:08] <zeeble> Beni___: ah, sorry then. actually so does the download page :p just the index page says it isnt
[14:09] <sshc> Hi, I upgraded GRUB on another computer, but when it boots up, it says "Error 15"
[14:09] <tstebut> raj, I want a partition for LVM , should I use primary or extended ?
[14:09] <noob> lc=hck+sh1
[14:09] <spook_> Beni___: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download now offering 9.10
[14:09] <zeeble> Beni___: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ shows ver 9.10
[14:09] <Guest84923> I did a upgrade from ubuntu 8.10 to 9.04 thru the UPGRADE option, and now I'cant get into the system
[14:09] <Beni___> Where?
[14:09] <Pici> spook_: no it doesnt
[14:09] <Beni___>  Ubuntu 9.04 Desktop (the latest version):
[14:09] <gajop> has the new ubuntu 9.10 been released? how do i upgrade it? update-manage -d?
[14:09] <ax-ax> also, my rtorrent gets wierd combinations of letters instead of ö and é, is that normal or how do i fix it?
[14:10] <zeeble> wha? i just saw it seconds ago
[14:10] <zeeble> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[14:10] <Beni___> gajop: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade install
[14:10] <tstebut> Guest84923, you should try to rewrite mbr with grub through recovery console
[14:10] <zeeble> Download Ubuntu 9.10
[14:10] <zeeble> its offering 9.10
[14:10] <brianV> does anyone know of a decent VPN client that will connect to Sonicwall VPNs?
[14:10] <nexsja> john_saint, hm, never had any problems with Brasero... Well, you could try another app: K3b, though it's for KDE. You just use aptitude to install it, it will download all the missing kde packages and then just run it from Application->Sound & Video
[14:10] <zeeble> but where are the images?
[14:10] <Guest84923> the SSH connection gives me stdin: is not a tty
[14:10] <aoupi> where do update-manager check for new releases? (like, what URL does it get)
[14:10] <Azeotrope> Guest84923, why?
[14:10] <gt11> no
[14:10] <tstebut> Guest84923, that's what I had to do when upgrading from 8.04 to 8.10 and it worked
[14:10] <john_saint> k3b??
[14:10] <Beni___> I see only 9.04and 8.04 LTS
[14:10] <nexsja> john_saint, yes. K3b.
[14:11] <Guest84923> and the console (screen) just gives a lot of graphical color pixels
[14:11] <t2ttmp> i need the mini iso
[14:11] <john_saint> will it be in the add/remove section or do i have to look for it?
[14:11] <zeeble> Beni___: dunno mate. but its been 9.10 for the last 10 minutes for me. i can get the x86 version, but i want the 64 bit verison
[14:11] <sshc> would moving /boot/grub/menu.lst* to another directory cause GRUB to fail?
[14:11] <Guest84923> I have tried to use the LIVE cd to mount my root disk and change configuration files
[14:11] <dorgan> so i am trying to connect to the wireless network from the command line and when i do iwconfig wlan0 key s:mykeyhere    I am getting Error for wireless request "Set Encode" (8B2A)
[14:11] <Sensiva> sshc sure!
[14:11] <UKtour> zeeble: I am not seeing it
[14:11] <Azeotrope> Guest84923, you can't even ssh in?
[14:12] <Guest84923> I have chaned xorg.conf to the failsafe one
[14:12] <nexsja> john_saint, dunno about the add/remove, but you can definitely go to your console and type "sudo aptitude install k3b"
[14:12] <t2ttmp> i had to sudo apt-get install ssh
[14:12] <Beni___> zeeble: it is 9.04 stil...
[14:12] <DeadmanIncJS> where is 9.10!? lol
[14:12] <Beni___> still*
[14:12] <zeeble> damnit
[14:12] <john_saint> thank you for all your help. i will go and try it... thank you!
[14:12] <Guest84923> but the graphical pixels are still there and I can't use the GUI int
[14:12] <zealiod> ks3: What I'm trying to achieve is this:
[14:12] <karmic_police> whats the room name for the release party?
[14:13] <tonyyarusso> karmic_police: #ubuntu-release-party
[14:13] <MrMadMoneyMan> #ubuntu-release-party”
[14:13] <gt11> still no ubuntu 9.10
[14:13] <zeeble> Beni___: UKtour: http://www.zeeble.net/ubuntu.jpg
[14:13] <gajop> Beni___: it doesn't seem like 9.10 is out, that command does nothing, at least not for 64bit version
[14:13] <Beni___> hmm interesting :S
[14:13] <bala> hi, i have upgraded to karmic, i am unable to resume after suspend, does anybody know how i can fix that?
[14:13] <Beni___> I see totally different one from that
[14:14] <zeeble> gajop: yes. the 64 bit is the problem
[14:14] <bala> i have a dell 1525,intel GM965/GL960,
[14:14] <Guest84923> I can see that there are no /dev/pts files after the upgrade, but I can't run Makedev as I can't get in thru SSH or via the screen
[14:14] <Sensiva> gajop Beni___ its not out yet, when its out, topic will be updates
[14:14] <Sensiva> updated*
[14:14] <rapha> wow, ubuntu.com is under siege
[14:14] <bala> and am unable  to access text console too.
[14:14] <zeeble> no it is out!
[14:14] <zealiod> ks3: Let's say I have 1 switch and a passthrough server. on the switch i have 5 tagged ports, each with an access point. Client's connect through one of 5 access points. I have tagged the 5 ports, so I can tell where client's are accessing the network from. In reality the scenario is much much bigger...
[14:14] <zeeble> geez. the mirrors arent populated is what it is.
[14:14] <rapha> anybody got me a working link to the 64bit-desktop-.torrent?
[14:14] <meeeeee> Hi, I had Ubuntu Hardy and recently I've upgraded to Intrepid and then Jaunty. I was trying to install g++-3.4 in Jaunty today with hardy deb packages, so I ran dpkg -i *.deb on them (gcc-3.4 and it's dependencies) but dpkg returend some dependency errors. now running any app ends with segmentation fault! even init (kernel panic). how can I undo my changes on libc (?) ?
[14:14] <zealiod> ks3: does that help? I'm hoping to read vlan tag data when its all set up
[14:14] <ax-ax> also, my rtorrent gets wierd combinations of letters instead of ö and é, is that normal or how do i fix it?
[14:15] <ActionParsnip1> rapha: which release?
[14:15] <Guest84923> any ideas anyone? I suppose I had some nvidia stuff before, how do I reset that and just use std vga
[14:15] <zealiod> ks3: adding ip addresses to routes won't really work, as clients will be getting their ips via DHCP
[14:15] <rapha> ActionParsnip1: 9.10 ofc
[14:15] <ActionParsnip1> !karmic | rapha
[14:15] <UKtour> zeeble: ok then can you send me a torrent file to karmic-32bit?
[14:15] <rapha> huh
[14:15] <zeeble> UKtour: wait
[14:15] <ActionParsnip1> rapha: nothing is "of course" I assume nothing
[14:15] <Beni___> ohh
[14:15] <nexsja> what's the best distro version of ubuntu for a low-preference laptop?
[14:15] <Beni___> ubuntu.com is under siege :S
[14:15] <rapha> but why's ubuntu.com down if 9.10 hasnt been released?
[14:15] <zeeble> wtf
[14:16] <zeeble> it went back to 9.04 now
[14:16] <wonderworld> i will wait for Ubuntu 10.10 Pornographic Penguin
[14:16] <zeeble> someone's doing a svn checkout of that page or what
[14:16] <Loafers> Is this where I download http://noncdn.releases.ubuntu.com//releases/9.10/ ?
[14:16] <vadviktor> http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[14:16] <meeeeee> Hi, I had Ubuntu Hardy and recently I've upgraded to Intrepid and then Jaunty. I was trying to install g++-3.4 in Jaunty today with hardy deb packages, so I ran dpkg -i *.deb on them (gcc-3.4 and it's dependencies) but dpkg returend some dependency errors. now running any app ends with segmentation fault! even init (kernel panic). how can I undo my changes on libc (?) ?
[14:16] <Sensiva> rapha it's not down from here
[14:16] <tonyyarusso> Loafers: It's not out yet!  No links!
[14:16] <Sensiva> Loafers nope
[14:16] <rapha> interesting Sensiva
[14:16] <ActionParsnip1> rapha: I suggest you join the hilarity in #ubuntu-release-party
[14:16] <natrixnatrix89> hi. Is there a command in terminal to list all ip addresses connected in LAN?
[14:16] <rapha> okay ActionParsnip1 :)
[14:17] <ks3> zealiod: Hmmm... the first thought would be VLANs and separate subnets, but I've never done more than about 20 VLANs on a server. Also, you'd need to setup a DHCP scope for each subnet. It seems like there should be an easier way, but nothing's coming to me at the moment.
[14:17] <zeeble> ip addresses connected in the lan?
[14:17] <ActionParsnip1> natrixnatrix89: you could use nmap
[14:17] <bastidrazor> ikonia: :P was talking about anime. heh
[14:17] <natrixnatrix89> actionParsnip1: thanks.. Will install it..
[14:18] <Weedy> when you wakeup from sleep does your NM rescan and reconnect?
[14:18] <meeeeee> I had Ubuntu Hardy and recently I've upgraded to Intrepid and then Jaunty. I was trying to install g++-3.4 in Jaunty today with hardy deb packages, so I ran dpkg -i *.deb on them (gcc-3.4 and it's dependencies) but dpkg returend some dependency errors. now running any app ends with segmentation fault! even init (kernel panic). how can I undo my changes on libc (?) ?
[14:18] <Weedy> mine just keeps trying the last connected network even though it's in a physicaly different place
[14:18] <ActionParsnip1> meeeeee: you shouldnt mix release debs, you will get a mess
[14:18] <coz_> meeeeee,   did you install from synaptic?
[14:19] <zealiod> ks3: Yeah... i thought it would be easier too
[14:19] <ttye0> I'm sure someone has to have had this problem, but I'm not finding anything about it yet when I search for it. Has anyone a resource or fix for when Karmic will detect a digital camera (Nikon Corporation), but will not assign it an entry in /dev/?
[14:19] <zipito> how can I set as mine window manager gnome-shell instead of metacity ?
[14:19] <t2ttmp> the mini image is dated 16th oct still
[14:19] <reldridge> If i update using the "-d" option, would i just update again to get the real release of 9.10????
[14:19] <dborba> meeeeee - try removing the package you installed & then use synaptic to reinstall necessary packages
[14:19] <meeeeee> ActionParsnip1: I know, how can I undo changes? booting with live cd and what?
[14:19] <zealiod> ks3: am i right in thinking that i'd need to do some iptables rules for each vlan also?
[14:20] <coz_> reldridge,  if all of the pacakges have already been installed it wont update anything
[14:20] <jrib> reldridge: when it's out, yeah
[14:20] <ks3> zealiod: If the access points or switches support it, you may be able to simply mark the packets another way. Iptables supports mark / fwmark, which can be used to identify packets.
[14:20] <dborba> meeeeee: does your system not even start up?
[14:20] <reldridge> so if i use the develoment release, it will update to full release when available.
[14:20] <hoss> raj:  the only think that I read from the Ubuntu site was about Kubuntu's notebook release.  was this the release that you were refering to?
[14:20] <dr3mro> is there a difference between karmic final and the daily built available at ubuntu srver
[14:20] <meeeeee> dborba: I have no access to any shell or something, I recieve kernel panic at startup (even init recievs segmentation fault)
[14:20] <ActionParsnip1> meeeeee: use: sudo dpkg -r <package name>
[14:20] <ks3> zealiod: If you're doing any firewall settings, yes. You'd need to setup iptables with each interfaces and the needed allow / deny / nat entries.
[14:20] <zealiod> ks3: sure - im told vlans is the accepted way only in this instance
[14:20] <clausen> what does the "boot=casper" command line option do?
[14:20] <H20> ppl u need http://www.voddler.com/ it is free like spotify
[14:20] <zealiod> ks3: sure - thought so
[14:21] <meeeeee> ActionParsnip1: listen! it doesn't start up!
[14:21] <clausen> (kernel command line)
[14:21] <ActionParsnip1> meeeeee: you will need to use: sudo apt-get -f install at the end to make sure the packages are square
[14:21] <Travis-42> Is there any way to make certain applications open with a specific window size?
[14:21] <H20> but movies ..
[14:21] <ActionParsnip1> meeeeee: can you boot to recovery root console/
[14:21] <meeeeee> ActionParsnip1: no
[14:21] <binaryDragon> Travis-42, do you have gnome or kde
[14:21] <reldridge> so if i use the develoment release, it will update to full release when available.
[14:21] <Travis-42> binaryDragon: gnome
[14:21] <theadmin> Just asking... When? Will? It? Come? Out?
[14:21] <Pici> theadmin, Karmic will be released some time during the 29th, i.e: there is no exact time. You can await the announcement in #ubuntu-release-party
[14:21] <jrib> reldridge: yes
[14:21] <ActionParsnip1> meeeeee: then you will need the live cd
[14:22] <binaryDragon> dont know how to do that in gnome
[14:22] <zealiod> ks3: Am i able to forward all traffic from eth1.222 to eth1, prerouting?
[14:22] <reldridge> jrib, thanks..
[14:22] <meeeeee> ActionParsnip1: yeah, and then what should I do?
[14:22] <zealiod> ks3: otherwise im going to have to duplicate everyrule for every vlan
[14:22] <Sensiva> clausen It means running a preinstalled live from a read only file system
[14:22] <theadmin> I thought it will come out on 29.10.2009/00:00
[14:22] <theadmin> :D
[14:22] <gt11> Is there any way to mount Ubuntu DVD onto a USB stick and load from it?
[14:22] <clausen> Sensiva, I mean, how is it interpreted by linux?
[14:22] <ks3> zealiod: you can use wildcards, so iptables rules with eth1.+ should work... at least it works for ppp devices
[14:23] <ActionParsnip1> meeeeee: chroot to the installed system and remove what you installed
[14:23] <clausen> Sensiva, (I was hoping for a technical answer about how it works)
[14:23] <meeeeee> ActionParsnip1: if I chroot it will probably ends up with same situation (running every command recievs segmentation fault).
[14:23] <Guest84923> i have the live cd and I have my real file system mounted on the live system
[14:23] <dorgan> so i am trying to connect to the wireless network from the command line and when i do iwconfig wlan0 key s:mykeyhere    I am getting Error for wireless request "Set Encode" (8B2A)
[14:23] <zealiod> ks3: will give it ago
[14:23] <jj159> gt11: yes... alot of ways.. one way is unetbootin... from a windows machine
[14:23] <ActionParsnip1> meeeeee: its worth a shot though
[14:23] <clausen> Sensiva, is it the name of a script that linux will try to run?
[14:23] <Sensiva> clausen Unfortunately I don;t know :D
[14:23] <yadudoc> does anyone know how to write multisession data DVD using either K3b or brasero ?
[14:23] <jj159> or use usb tool on live cd to copy to usb.
[14:23] <meeeeee> ActionParsnip1: Yeah, Actually I'm downloading the cd.
[14:23] <H20> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKGrXbrnK-o    ubuntu festa :)
[14:23] <gt11> jj159 thanks!
[14:23] <dhiaeldeen> installed audacity , are there any program that converts a function into a sound ?
[14:23] <Sensiva> clausen no casper is a package, check its info in Ubuntu repos
[14:24] <Travis-42> I can use compiz to force a fixed size window, but I want to only set the initial size, and let me change it later
[14:24] <dhiaeldeen> how to do it with audacity ?
[14:24] <meeeeee> ActionParsnip1: do you know any other way?
[14:24] <natrixnatrix89> ActionParsnip1: could you please tell me the command i should use with nmap to see all the ip addresses in LAN?
[14:24] <clausen> Sensiva, the linux kernel is interpreting "boot=casper" to mean something!
[14:24] <corden> ubuntu 9.10 32 is not official available
[14:24] <clausen> Sensiva, or at least, some program is reading "boot=casper"
[14:24] <corden> now i mean
[14:24] <ActionParsnip1> natrixnatrix89: nmap is very complex, you should look at examples online
[14:24] <iceroot> corden: it is
[14:24] <IdleOne> !9.10
[14:24] <movela> gt11: unetbootin is great.. it also supports downloading and installing on usb. almost all distros out there are in it... slax nimble x puppy dsl... to try out
[14:24] <Sensiva> clausen yeah but I don't know further details
[14:24] <iceroot> corden: mainpage is updated
[14:24] <movela> good luck
[14:25] <Squirm> !isitout
[14:25] <ActionParsnip1> meeeeee: i cant think of anything else
[14:25] <clausen> Sensiva, thanks anyway
[14:25] <meeeeee> ActionParsnip1: thanks.
[14:25] <meeeeee> I had Ubuntu Hardy and recently I've upgraded to Intrepid and then Jaunty. I was trying to install g++-3.4 in Jaunty today with hardy deb packages, so I ran dpkg -i *.deb on them (gcc-3.4 and it's dependencies) but dpkg returend some dependency errors. now running any app ends with segmentation fault! even init (kernel panic). how can I undo my changes on libc (?) ?
[14:25] <corden> i mean now not not :D
[14:25] <movela> is today the officail release date for ubuntu?
[14:25] <zealiod> ks3: sweet, that works
[14:25] <movela> how come kubuntu is released?
[14:25] <Squirm> yes movela, for 9.10
[14:25] <ActionParsnip1> movela: for karmic yes
[14:25] <sshc> I upgraded to grub 2, but it's giving me Error 15
[14:26] <zeeble> movela: its prolly going to release in a while. first let the mirrors download the main image, then they'll release it
[14:26] <movela> Squirm: i'm in the ubuntu site.. it says beta
[14:26] <movela> ok thanks
[14:26] <zeeble> movela: it said 9.10 a few minutes ago, then they changed back .. looks like the site got hammered
[14:26] <sshc> the error happens immediately after I boot
[14:26] <Sensiva> sshc read this post carefully and good luck http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1195275
[14:27] <Squirm> zeeble, lots of mirrors seem to have it already
[14:27] <movela> lol!@hammered
[14:27] <zealiod> ks3: so no firther ideas how to map all dhcp address to that vlan? i'd rather not have separate dhcp ranges for each vlan
[14:27] <zeeble> Squirm: which one?
[14:27] <movela> win7 was already released yes?
[14:27] <Squirm> http://gb.releases.ubuntu.com/9.10/
[14:27] <Sensiva> sshc this post also is the same as your problem http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1293917&page=3
[14:27] <leohartx> it's out
[14:27] <Beni___> dammmmmmmmmmmmmmm
[14:27] <ptn107> the images are already present on http://noncdn.releases.ubuntu.com//karmic/  I've verified the desktop and alternate images, they're good
[14:27] <movela> on the 27th?
[14:27] <Beni___> yes
[14:27] <leohartx> guys, it's out
[14:27] <richardcavell_> yes
[14:27] <zeeble> thanks, Squirm
[14:27] <Squirm> http://noncdn.releases.ubuntu.com//
[14:27] <Squirm> also
[14:27] <leohartx> http://noncdn.releases.ubuntu.com//releases/karmic/  < visit here
[14:28] <richardcavell_> This is the channel for Karmic now
[14:28] <raik> is it out?
[14:28] <leohartx> yes
[14:28] <Sensiva> nope its not out
[14:28] <leohartx> it was out on 27
[14:28] <leohartx> now, it's 29
[14:28] <furuno> !isitout
[14:28] <Squirm> i'd suggest everyone just wait until the official release announcement
[14:28] <Sensiva> !karmic
[14:28] <zeeble> excellent thanks.
[14:28] <meeeeee> I had Ubuntu Hardy and recently I've upgraded to Intrepid and then Jaunty. I was trying to install g++-3.4 in Jaunty today with hardy deb packages, so I ran dpkg -i *.deb on them (gcc-3.4 and it's dependencies) but dpkg returend some dependency errors. now running any app ends with segmentation fault! even init (kernel panic). how can I undo my changes on libc (?) ?
[14:29] <ikonia> bastidrazor: what ?
[14:29] <Wipster> not officially out but the download page has been updated with the new links, good enough for me.
[14:29] <ptn107> It is not 'officially out'  follow ubuntu-announce and wait for the announcement (you can download it now, however)
[14:29] <fcn> !isitout
[14:29] <zeeble> you mean they wait till the last moment to create an iso image with a 29th timestamp?
[14:29] <tzolkin> My hdapsd seems not auto start, how can set it to auto start?
[14:30] <JediMaster> btw, it's offically out now
[14:30] <SuperDefenderX> When is 9.10 coming out? Isn't that today?
[14:30] <DaHopi> out
[14:30] <JediMaster> http://www.ubuntu.com/
[14:30] <tzolkin> add it to the start session??
[14:30] <Beni___> OUT
[14:30] <Beni___> JETZT, NOW, AT THE MOMEN! :d
[14:30] <Beni___> Cheers
[14:30] <zeeble> haha, Beni___
[14:30] <Sensiva> \ o /
[14:30] <GrossHans> UUU! its there!!!
[14:30] <Beni___> zeeble: true :)
[14:30] <gt11> omg ubuntu.com is down
[14:30] <zeeble> Beni___: yeah, 40% of the download done.
[14:30] <ActionParsnip1> its out for those askig
[14:30] <JediMaster> gt11: nope, working for me, and it's out
[14:30] <zeeble> lol Karmic_Koala
[14:31] <pef^> wohoo, it means that ther are updating :D :D
[14:31] <pef^> ITS HERE!!!
[14:31] <ActionParsnip1> just gotta wait for repos to sync
[14:31] <ptn107> please use the torrents today when you download, and at least seed for a little while afterwards pls
[14:31] <leohartx> now, the site has announced :D
[14:31] <Sche> ITS HERE!!!!!!
[14:31] <Travis-42> :q
[14:31] <leohartx> !topic
[14:31] <DingTo> hey
[14:31] <DaHopi> download link for ubuntu nbr doesnt work..
[14:31] <H20> sweeet ............
[14:31] <DingTo> any idea when 9.10 is coming?
[14:31] <leohartx> !isitiout
[14:31] <ActionParsnip1> DingTo: now
[14:31] <DingTo> sry if I am the 100th person asking .P
[14:31] <DaHopi> DinTo: its out
[14:31] <batrick> ptn107: where can we download the 9.10 torrent
[14:31] <leohartx> !isitout
[14:31] <JediMaster> DingTo: it's out
[14:32] <JediMaster> yes, it's out
[14:32] <raik> yes yes its out!!!
[14:32] <pef^> UBOTTU LIES!
[14:32] <DingTo> oh
[14:32] <vaguerant> !torrents
[14:32] <raik> check you update manager?
[14:32] <DingTo> AWESOME
[14:32] <ctmjr> and the madness begins
[14:32] <gt11> Omg awesome!
[14:32] <uzi> AWESEOME HAPPY DOWNLOADING PEOPLE
[14:32] <vaguerant> Heh, that still lists jaunty releases.
[14:32] <H20> http://www.ubuntu.com/
[14:32] <XLV> yeah, bring down those servers ;-)
[14:32] <JediMaster> bahhh do-release-upgrade is still not working =/
[14:32] <uzi> PLEASE SEED!
[14:32] <ActionParsnip1> raik: repos are slower than ISOs
[14:32] <H20> http://www.ubuntu.com/
[14:32] <Travis-42> anyone have problems clicking "buttons" in flash in the 64-but karmic?
[14:32] <Travis-42> bit, I mean
[14:32] <H20> the part is one .. :)
[14:32] <ptn107> batrick: http://noncdn.releases.ubuntu.com//karmic/
[14:33] <ActionParsnip1> Travis-42: not with the 64bit flash plugin
[14:33] <sshc> Sensiva: "NB! You have to use the spacebar to mark the choice here. DO NOT go on without doing this. Iw WILL result in your system showing error 15 and being unable to even show a boot menu. If you are running a dual boot system with WindowsXP or Vista, you might have to do additional fixes after upgrading to get it to work."
[14:33] <ActionParsnip1> Travis-42: are you using compiz?
[14:33] <jauntyjoe> is it out? yes it is!
[14:33] <sshc> Sensiva: that's my problem
[14:33] <Pygmalion> So, probably  stupid question, but anything that isn't dependent on GNOME is the same across all official derivs? So Kubuntu and Xubuntu still have grub2, upstart and stuff?
[14:33]  * Karmic_Koala !
[14:34] <gt11> Why the speed is only 90 kbps? :(
[14:34] <sshc> Sensiva: I remember a dialogue in which I was given an option but I forgot to choose it
[14:34] <DingTo> why I only have DSL 1000 -.-
[14:34] <DingTo> takes me now 2 hours to get it :P
[14:34] <t2ttmp> if you install you will just get errors when adding packages
[14:34] <joaopinto> Pygmalion, I believe so, except for pulseaudio which is not installed with kubuntu
[14:34] <sshc> Sensiva: how do I fix it?
[14:34] <gt11> 1 percent done, heh
[14:34] <ActionParsnip1> gt11: because the servers are being hammered
[14:34] <Pygmalion> joaopinto: Oh good, heard bad things about pulse anyway :P
[14:34] <ActionParsnip1> gt11: think about it
[14:34] <Sensiva> sshc check the Grub2 guide http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1195275
[14:35] <jauntyjoe> 0day ftw suxk0rz :D
[14:35] <tzolkin> karmic is out, has anyone try it? how about it
[14:35] <joaopinto> !ot | tzolkin
[14:35] <Travis-42> ActionParsnip1: yea, I'm using compiz
[14:35] <ks3> zealiod: Sorry, I stepped away for a bit. You can have DHCP run on multiple interfaces, but I'm not certain if that will allow bi-directional communication - I've never used it in a setup like yours. Best I can say on that is - try it :( (and let me know what happens)
[14:35] <K_Dallas> tzolkin, there are reviews on it also the final relase should not be that different from RC so I would say, pretty neat piece of software you have got yourself
[14:36] <Sahkolihaa> Goody. 9.10 doesn't boot at all. I'm now getting an Error 15 from GRUB.
[14:36] <Sahkolihaa> Fresh install as well.
[14:36] <DB42> what is the torrent link for ubuntu 9.10 DVD (alternative+desktop+server) ?
[14:36] <K_Dallas> Sahkolihaa, check your ISO
[14:36] <shane2peru> does anyone know how if I can run FF3?  I have FF3.5.4 installed via ubuntuzilla
[14:36] <Sahkolihaa> ISO is fine.
[14:36] <Sahkolihaa> I'm on the live CD now.
[14:36] <johndolmy> what I have to edit or install or configure to view unmounted internal partitions on nautilus?
[14:37] <Sahkolihaa> MD5 matches what is on the website.
[14:37] <ChogyDan> DB42: http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[14:37] <t2ttmp> 910 seems flaky at best atm we shud have a 1 week after release party i thinks
[14:37] <K_Dallas> DB42, http://noncdn.releases.ubuntu.com//karmic/
[14:37] <ptn107> Ubuntu 9.10 32-bit torrent -> http://releases.ubuntu.com/karmic/ubuntu-9.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent            Ubuntu 9.10 64-bit torrent -> http://releases.ubuntu.com/karmic/ubuntu-9.10-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent      go!
[14:37] <ActionParsnip1> Travis-42: try without, you may find it works
[14:37] <DaHopi> Cant download ubuntu nbr 9.10: Not Found
[14:37] <DaHopi> The requested URL /karmic/ubuntu-9.10-netbook-remix-i386.img was not found on this server.
[14:37] <Beni___> official?
[14:37] <DB42> K_Dallas, http://noncdn.releases.ubuntu.com//karmic/ has only CD, no DVDs
[14:38] <t2ttmp> think it could be cos servers being hammerd
[14:38] <K_Dallas> DB42, ok
[14:38] <mark_> quick question.  Does the RC 9.10 ubuntu automatically become the stable 9.10 tree upon update?
[14:38] <superham> whats in the dvd release?
[14:38] <DB42> i want an ALL in ond DVD
[14:38] <DB42> is there such a thing ?
[14:38] <Pici> mark_: yes
[14:38] <Sahkolihaa> Curently in the process of burning Fedora 11 to disc. :/
[14:38] <DB42> there used to be a DVD with desktop+server+alternative
[14:38] <Sahkolihaa> currently*
[14:38] <tzolkin> K_Dallas, that's great, but I am not sure it can drive my video card "HD3470".
[14:38] <mark_> I wonder if repos have had a change to get the 9.10 stable yet?
[14:38] <Travis-42> ActionParsnip1: Is there a conflict between them? I make use of some of the compiz features for actual productivity as opposed to just eye candy.
[14:38] <DB42> ok, foudn htem
[14:38] <movela> this torrent works! http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/   but is it official?
[14:38] <mark_> the mirror repos
[14:38] <DB42> thanks
[14:39] <rave> how to upgrade to 9.10 from beta 9.10
[14:39] <Sahkolihaa> No one knows how to fix error 15 on 9.10?
[14:39] <gt11> Yeah, is it http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/ the newest version?
[14:39] <Pici> !final | rave
[14:39] <johndolmy> what I have to edit or install or configure to view unmounted internal partitions on nautilus?
[14:39] <Sahkolihaa> Fresh install.
[14:39] <iceroot> rave: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[14:39] <ptn107> movela, yes
[14:39] <ChogyDan> Sahkolihaa: error 15 at boot?
[14:39] <Sahkolihaa> Yup.
[14:40] <ChogyDan> Sahkolihaa: is this an upgrade or clean install?
[14:40] <raik> is 9.10 out?
[14:40] <[V]ortex`> omg it is out
[14:40] <Sahkolihaa> Clean install.
[14:40] <BOZG> raik, yes
[14:40] <iceroot> ActionParsnip1: you said, update-manager not working on your beta. but you need apt-get dist-upgrade not update-manager -d
[14:40] <gt11> raik yes
[14:40] <Ventus> hi i cant find the ports of 9.10
[14:40] <Ventus> i need ps3 port
[14:40] <johndolmy> what I have to edit or install or configure to view unmounted internal partitions on nautilus?
[14:40] <ActionParsnip1> iceroot: i use: sudo apt-get --force-yes -y dist-upgrade
[14:40] <natrixnatrix89> is there a way to detect the devices available on my LAN. I mean to list all the IP addresses on my lan?
[14:40] <ChogyDan> Sahkolihaa: hmm, so error 15 on grub 2 eh?  Do you have a regular HDD setup?
[14:41] <iceroot> ActionParsnip1: ak ok, i though you are running something else
[14:41] <grotiiy> which users should avoid x64?
[14:41] <vega-> Ventus: there's no ps3 port of 9.10 ...
[14:41] <xnet> Watson
[14:41] <Beni___> Are the torrent links correct
[14:41] <Sahkolihaa> ChogyDan: 2 SATA drives, 2 IDE drives in master/slave, was installing on the IDE master.
[14:41] <iceroot> grotiiy: users with 4gb ram an more
[14:41] <^mNotIntelligent> can anyone tell me what is the official site for ubuntu torrents...thanks
[14:41] <Beni___> Are they the proper version?
[14:41] <mok0> Let's fix this, people: http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/blog/2009/oct/29/windows7-usage-guardian
[14:41] <dojo> where are the new md5's for 9.10?
[14:41] <iceroot> ^mNotIntelligent: ubuntu.com
[14:41] <iceroot> dojo: ubuntu.com
[14:41] <dojo> the ubuntu hashes page doesn't have them
[14:42] <dojo> only 9.04
[14:42] <^mNotIntelligent> iceroot, i was expectign soemting like torrents.ubuntu.com ...
[14:42] <ActionParsnip1> iceroot: nar, i have it cron'd for 5 am each day but i can run the script when I wish, its called fullupdate ;)
[14:42] <grotiiy> iceroot, i have asked which users should avoid x64
[14:42] <ChogyDan> Sahkolihaa: are you willing to file a bug report?  I suspect your device.map is improperly setup, but it should be fixed in the installer, not just by you manually
[14:42] <raik> how to upgrade 9.04 to 9.10?
[14:42] <iceroot> grotiiy: then users with less then 4gb ram
[14:42] <darthanubis> Happy Ubuntu everyone!
[14:42] <roygbiv> hello hello
[14:42] <gt11> The torrent fails to download. Just pauses with "Operation is waiting")
[14:42] <rave> i m going to reinstall ubuntu is there a way where i can mark and save the sowftware list installed in my current system so that i can simply read tehm through synaptic in new system
[14:42] <iceroot> !upgrade | raik
[14:42] <pef^> raik sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[14:42] <Sahkolihaa> ChogyDan: If I can figure out how to file one.
[14:42] <Law506> got 5 mb/s download for ubuntu 9.10!
[14:42] <iceroot> !clone | rave
[14:42] <vega-> Ventus: seems there in fact is: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/ (but it's a bit slow now)
[14:43] <t2ttmp> i had an error 15 i just partitioned manualy and installed again it went away
[14:43] <corden> sudo apt-get thank_you canonical
[14:43] <ChogyDan> Sahkolihaa: hmm, Im wrong
[14:43] <dojo> iceroot: i assume you are referring to this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes which has no hashes for 9.10
[14:43] <Guest84923> stdin: is not a tty when I SSH to my newly UPGRADED system from 8.10 to 9.04, help anyone
[14:43] <iceroot> dojo: i am reffering to the donwload-page where are all isos, torrents and md5
[14:43] <Flynsarmy> the message received sound in pidgin is being compressed in karmic. playing alot faster than it should. ideas?
[14:43] <Ventus> vega-, i got connected, but there are no files in ports/9.10
[14:44] <iceroot> dojo: if you follow the download link you will get here http://noncdn.releases.ubuntu.com//releases/9.10/
[14:44] <mezquitale> karmic koala is officially out, woohohooo
[14:44] <t2ttmp> anybody got working hdmi audio in 910
[14:44] <t2ttmp> ?
[14:44] <vega-> t2ttmp: yes
[14:44] <[V]ortex`> so this makes this chan the offical KK chan
[14:44] <KevinMai> I installed Ubuntu Karmic Beta, then install Vista. Now, I have Karmic Live-CD. How to repair grub2?
[14:44] <dojo> iceroot: thanks, i did not get that page. just the image download. not sure where you got that, but i am grateful!
[14:44] <iceroot> [V]ortex`: correct
[14:45] <ChogyDan> Sahkolihaa: well, actually, it is an error with device.map
[14:45] <iceroot> dojo: alternate download locations  that was the section
[14:45] <iceroot> dojo: its a text below the download link to redirect you to that site i gave you
[14:45] <Sahkolihaa> ChogyDan: Ah, I think I see it already. I think it's set the wrong drive up.
[14:46] <KevinMai> I installed Ubuntu Karmic Beta, then install Vista. Now, I have Karmic Live-CD. How to repair grub2?
[14:46] <deviant-route> whats the best way to download 9.10 now?
[14:46] <om26er> and now this channel is karmic
[14:46] <[V]ortex`> deviant-route:torrent it
[14:46] <ChogyDan> Sahkolihaa: yeah, thats it, are you running the livecd?
[14:46] <realistik> Is there a non-swamped site with torrent links?
[14:46] <dojo> not seein it from here: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[14:46] <om26er> kick jaunty users ....kidding
[14:46] <iceroot> om26er: and jaunty + hardy
[14:46] <dojo> deviant-route: torrent
[14:46] <dib_> http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[14:46] <dojo> mine downloaded at 3mpbs
[14:46] <rave> iceroot: where to see !automate
[14:46] <deviant-route> ok thanks
[14:46] <Sahkolihaa> ChogyDan: Yes, and I just loaded up GParted and found what the drive should really be.
[14:46] <iceroot> rave: what?
[14:46] <opiniojuris> where's the 9.10 torrent?
[14:46] <zealiod> ks3: cool
[14:46] <om26er> empathy suck big time
[14:46] <ChogyDan> Sahkolihaa: can you wait a sec before you make a change?
[14:46] <zealiod> ks3: thanks
[14:47] <Sahkolihaa> ChogyDan: Sure.
[14:47] <opiniojuris> oops, haven't read the topic :>
[14:47] <opiniojuris> !torrents
[14:47] <rave> iceroot: bot told me to see !automate
[14:47] <ChogyDan> Sahkolihaa: or rather, can you save your old files?
[14:47] <DingTo> om26er: yeah
[14:47] <DingTo> om26er: no IRC
[14:47] <iceroot> !automate | rave
[14:47] <rave> iceroot: bot told me to see !automate i dont know what it is
[14:47] <opiniojuris> nope, it's not there....
[14:47] <DingTo> why did they switched to that anyway?
[14:47] <Sahkolihaa> ChogyDan: All my files are on other drives, so that's not an issue.
[14:47] <realistik> Thanks dib_ :)
[14:47] <iceroot> rave: ! <-- starts a bot-command
[14:47] <DaHopi> plz help, 9.10 nbr will not install: "Could not find kernel image: linux"
[14:48] <freeall> When updating through Update Managaer, I get an error in the step "Setting new software channels". The error I get is: "W:Failed to fetch http://dk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/karmic/... Hash Sum Mismatch". There are a great bunch of files failing with the same error. Can anybody help me?
[14:48] <ActionParsnip1> DaHopi: did you md5 test the image?
[14:48] <Flynsarmy> the message received sound in pidgin is being compressed in karmic. playing alot faster than it should. ideas?
[14:48] <xnet> multimedia softwares?
[14:49] <tazz> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2009-October/000127.html
[14:49] <om26er> karmic is looking awesome
[14:49] <xnet> Is this possible music developer in ubuntu?
[14:49] <WelshyRob> afternoon
[14:49] <om26er> although i have been using it for 4months
[14:49] <roygbiv> what kernel version is 9.10? ty in advance
[14:49] <invitingdopeman> it  says i can only upgrade from 9.04
[14:49] <jauntyjoe> freall: i wouldn't expect all the update files to have been mirrored down to dk already
[14:49] <ActionParsnip1> xnet: lmms is fun
[14:49] <iceroot> roygbiv: 2.6.31
[14:49] <carresmd> let's ask the same question as yetserday
[14:49] <ActionParsnip1> !info linux-image karmic
[14:49] <DaHopi> ActionParsnip1: yipp i did
[14:50] <invitingdopeman> how can i upgrade from beta version
[14:50] <carresmd> how do I backup my SSH and GPG keys?
[14:50] <jauntyjoe> use the "main server" or d/l the iso
[14:50] <varun__> why is the torrent download very slow too?
[14:50] <iceroot> invitingdopeman: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[14:50] <fluid> whats the first-person shooter in the games screenshot on the 9.10 tour page?
[14:50] <jimqode> !torrents
[14:50] <ActionParsnip1> varun__: it will speed up
[14:50] <pelmen> hello everyone. Upgraded to 9.10, nvidia drivers seem to be working, but glxgears fails to start with "No Xlib extension" also compiz fails to start
[14:50] <invitingdopeman> thank you
[14:50] <varun__> i hope so
[14:50] <ActionParsnip1> pelmen: uninstall the nvidia drivers and reinstall them
[14:50] <koolhead17> so the magic is here
[14:50] <Plugh> carresmd: The ssh keys are in ~/.ssh. Don'tk now about the gpg ones
[14:50] <raik> moving to ubuntu 9.10 Karmic Koala!! bye
[14:50] <twanoo_> /quit
[14:50] <Wizzup> :D
[14:51] <arthurjohnson> Wooooo!  Karmic has landed!
[14:51] <pelmen> ActionParsnip1: using "Hardware Drivers" way or manually ?
[14:51] <Wizzup> :D /join #ubuntu-release-party
[14:51] <Wizzup> wups
[14:51] <dib_> http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[14:51] <ActionParsnip1> pelmen: sudo apt-get --purge remove nvidia*; sudo apt-get --purge autoremove
[14:51] <carresmd> Plugh, thanks
[14:52] <Plugh> I'm going to have another shot at installing the nvidia drivers. My attempts to do so in the few days before launch all failed with System error: installArchive error message
[14:52] <pelmen> ActionParsnip1: and then should i install from nvidia.sh file or using "hardware drivers" dialouge ?
[14:52] <roygbiv> Plugh are you installing on a laptop?
[14:52] <ActionParsnip1> pelmen: you can then run: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install nvidia-185-modaliases nvidia-glx-185
[14:52] <blue-pearl> why ubuntu stopped giving free cd? i can not download it will take ages to download.
[14:53] <ActionParsnip1> pelmen: i'd just rip out the packages, same thing
[14:53] <Flynsarmy> the message received sound in pidgin is being compressed in karmic. playing alot faster than it should. ideas?
[14:53] <Plugh> roygbiv, [hehe... nice nick]  It installed on my laptop just fine. I haven't been able to get the install to complete successfully on my desktop.
[14:53] <deviant-route> thank god i order my cd early
[14:53] <pelmen> ActionParsnip1: ok, do i need to restart between purge and reinstall ?
[14:53] <invitingdopeman> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded i get this when i try to sudo
[14:53] <roygbiv> Plugh hah that's the exact opposite of me. my hp laptop w/ nvidia is giving me fits but my desktop is solid
[14:54] <WelshyRob> invitingdopeman, installing what?
[14:54] <invitingdopeman> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded this is what i get when i sudo upgrade
[14:54] <roygbiv> off to download the 9.10 torrent!
[14:54] <invitingdopeman> 9.10
[14:54] <Plugh> roygbiv, ah, ok. My laptop has a newer nvidia card than my desktop. I'm going to do a complete removal of the nvidia drivers on my desktop and try again.
[14:54] <ActionParsnip1> pelmen: could do
[14:54] <blue-pearl> why ubuntu stopped giving free cd? i can not download it will take ages to download :(
[14:54] <WelshyRob> invitingdopeman, upgade to 8.10?
[14:54] <roygbiv> blue-pearl get the torrent?
[14:54] <KevinMai> I installed Ubuntu Karmic Beta, then install Vista. Now, I have Karmic Live-CD. How to repair grub2?
[14:55] <Squirm> blue-pearl, i think you just need to pay for the cd and shipping
[14:55] <switchgirl> blue-pearl: its shippit they are still going
[14:55] <invitingdopeman> welshyrob im trying to upgrade from 9.10 beta
[14:55] <jasonfunk> Why did the notifications change in 9.10? i
[14:55] <WelshyRob> oh sorry i no nothing bout that
[14:55] <switchgirl> KevinMai: you can't it wiped the entire drive
[14:55] <Plugh> roygbiv, I was totally impressed by how easy it was to get Karmic up and running on my hp laptop. Pretty much everything just worked. I only had to copy over the WiFi firmware drivers from an earlier attempt to get WiFi working when I was using a different distro on the laptop.
[14:56] <pelmen> ActionParsnip1: ok going for a reboot
[14:56] <coz_> KevinMai,   maybe this would help   http://ubuntu-virginia.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1274428
[14:56] <jauntyjoe> !torrents
[14:56] <invitingdopeman> how the fuck do i upgrade from 9.10 beta to 9.10
[14:56] <_jakob__> How do I update Kubuntu 9.04->9.10 ??? the update-manager is a gnome program :-/
[14:56] <roygbiv> wow, no peers for the 9.10 torrent yet heh
[14:56] <Plugh> invitingdopeman: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[14:56] <wonderworld> can the normal (not alternate) installer in karmic encrypt the disk?
[14:56] <ctmjr> invitingdopeman: sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[14:56] <invitingdopeman> i did that it gave me this0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded
[14:56] <i_is_broke> !language
[14:56] <aper> ubuntu is here hooray! :p
[14:57] <zipito> good day
[14:57] <switchgirl> invitingdopeman: I'd love to know that too without the profanity (miors)
[14:57] <zipito> can someone help me with Gnome Eye ?
[14:57] <roygbiv> http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/9.10/
[14:57] <Wizzup> !torrent
[14:57] <invitingdopeman> well tell me how
[14:57] <zipito> it doesn't shows animated gifs (I mean doesn't shows those animation)
[14:57] <blue-pearl> download @ 2kbps......it will take ages. :(
[14:57] <aper> =O
[14:57] <Plugh> invitingdopeman: I just did. Scroll back a little.
[14:57] <modernbob> is there a list of torrents someplace
[14:57] <roygbiv> aah here we go now the torrent is downloading from 15/60 peers. nice
[14:57] <aper> mine is at +- 300 kbs
[14:57] <_RyanB_> torrent....
[14:58] <aper> 25 mins remaining
[14:58] <aper> not on torrent
[14:58] <i_is_broke> invitingdopeman, try sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[14:58] <tommy^w> ubuntu is AMAZING
[14:58] <roygbiv> blue-pearl do you have small bandwidth? if not you should try the torrent at http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/9.10/
[14:58] <invitingdopeman> i did it gave me this 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded
[14:58] <_jakob__> arghhhh :-/ when I run "update-notifier-kde -d" I get: = Welcome to the Ubuntu 'Karmic Koala' development release =
[14:58] <leohartx> can some one give me hash code of amd 64 desktop iso file ? (you get it by check you downloaded iso )
[14:58] <_jakob__> ***
[14:58] <_jakob__> This is still a BETA release.
[14:59] <i_is_broke> invitingdopeman, are you running the latest rc and have kept up on all the updates?
[14:59] <invitingdopeman> yes but i still have all the bugs
[14:59] <roygbiv> i just now started downloading 9.10 from torrent and it'll take about 11 mins. torrent is very fast
[14:59] <td123> leohartx: distrowatch.com
[14:59] <goldins> hi, I'm updating a machine from 8.10 and I was hoping to update to 9.10, and update-manager -d says "new distribution release '9.04' is available." why doesn't it show 9.10?
[14:59] <om26er1> what do i do to get fast-user-switch-applet or indicator-applet with install empathy components in karmic koala
[14:59] <om26er1> without
[14:59] <Jordan_U> !upgrade | goldins
[14:59] <_jakob__> Oh, -d is wrong... -u is better
[14:59] <_jakob__> :)
[14:59] <blue-pearl> roygbiv: ya small bandwidth.
[15:00] <roygbiv> blue-pearl aaah ok
[15:00] <Jordan_U> goldins: You can only skip releases when going from LTS to LTS
[15:00] <Plugh> roygbiv, I heard there are more people than usual getting the program via torrent which would account for fast download times
[15:00] <invitingdopeman> i-is-broke yes but i still have all the bugs
[15:00] <craigbass1976> I've got a brother 7840W and can scan using xsane from one ubuntu box.  I can't remember how I set it up though.  Anyone?  The printer part is working.
[15:00] <roygbiv> Plugh yea i'm showing 65 peers right now
[15:00] <arnold> 9.10
[15:00] <incidence> Hi, Is there anyway to keep my WLAN drivers when ubuntu updates kernel? Always, after the kernel update I lose my wlan drivers.
[15:00] <Plugh> roygbiv, another torrent stream was reported as 400 peers and 2000 leechers
[15:00] <thiebaude> anyone have a link for the torrents?
[15:01] <modernbob> lst of torrents?
[15:01] <roygbiv> 24Mb download FTW :-D
[15:01] <modernbob> exactly
[15:01] <i_is_broke> invitingdopeman, is it an update from 9.04 originally?
[15:01] <knarfix> hi, karmic has been released
[15:01] <modernbob> ubuntard.. hehe
[15:01] <invitingdopeman> yes beta
[15:01] <Plugh> I've usually found the Ubuntu web site has a list of torrents.
[15:01] <invitingdopeman> i have 9.10 beta
[15:01] <modernbob> where is the list of torrents
[15:01] <thiebaude> Plugh, i'll try that, thanks
[15:01] <i_is_broke> invitingdopeman, you might want to download the new iso and try a fresh install.
[15:01] <roygbiv> modernbob: http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/9.10/
[15:02] <worldsayshi> What's the name of that ubuntu extension having an icon tray like Mac OS?
[15:02] <invitingdopeman> so i have to brun it to a cd
[15:02] <roygbiv> scroll down to the bottom
[15:02] <knarfix> hi, i cant login to ubuntu one. says "capabilities mismatch with server"
[15:02] <tommy^w> Talking bout that horsetoof goofcawk
[15:02] <i_is_broke> invitingdopeman, or put it on a flash drive like i did.
[15:02] <dewman> If I am running 8.10 will update manager want to upgrade me to 9.04 and then to 9.10 or will it go right to 9.10?
[15:02] <roygbiv> worldsayshi on mac it's called the Dock, if that helps in searching
[15:02] <invitingdopeman> so i have to go buy cds thats bull shit
[15:02] <modernbob> no 9.10 torrents listed on that site
[15:03] <bgy> hi
[15:03] <Jordan_U> dewman: 9.04 then 9.10
[15:03] <roygbiv> modernbob there's a whole list of them at the bottom
[15:03] <dewman> Jordan_U, Thanks
[15:03] <RowCol> hello
[15:03] <Jordan_U> dewman: np
[15:03] <blue-pearl> 41 hrs 45 min remaining !!
[15:03] <worldsayshi> roygbiv: ah... yes it should do
[15:03] <bgy> My harddisk is sometimes slow, and i hear weird sounds from it, how could i check its health ?!
[15:03] <roygbiv> blue-pearl yikes lol
[15:03] <modernbob> roygbiv: URL please
[15:03] <dewman> Jordan_U, Will just download it then...I dont want to be like windows....Multiple upgrades to get to where I want to be.... hehehe
[15:03] <furuno> !isitout
[15:03] <roygbiv> modernbob: http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/9.10/
[15:04] <RowCol> does ubuntu 9.10 correct the problems of the previous version with Intel graphic carts ?
[15:04] <Plugh> blue-pearl: Torrents always start of showing slow transfer times. It will pick up after a while.
[15:04]  * JediMaster ponders how to do a remote install on a virtual server with 9.04 currently on there... hmmm
[15:04] <bradpitt> java applets are freezing on karmic, too bad.
[15:04] <worldsayshi> !itisout
[15:04] <textureglitch> use the force?
[15:04] <blue-pearl> Plugh: i am downloading directly from ubuntu.com not torrent.
[15:04] <roygbiv> JediMaster: that definitely will take jedi skills
[15:05] <rm> DVD torrents are not seeded
[15:05] <td123> blue-pearl: why?
[15:05] <RowCol> hi
[15:05] <RowCol> ----------------------
[15:05] <RowCol> does ubuntu 9.10 correct the problems of the previous version with Intel graphic carts ?
[15:05] <RowCol> ----------------------
[15:05] <FloodBot1> RowCol: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:05] <aper> lol
[15:05] <roygbiv> heh oops
[15:05] <ubuntu__> RowCol, it seems to, yes!
[15:05] <RowCol> ok thanks ubuntu__
[15:05] <ubuntu__> RowCol, well, I have 2 computers with intel cards
[15:05] <Plugh> Hm... guess I'm wrong. Fedora lists torrent sites on its download page. I expected Ubuntu would have done the same but it hasn't from what I can tell.
[15:05] <clausen> RowCol, (oops, didn't notice my user name)
[15:06] <coz_> hey guys  a bit of a techical question..generally .. if I install anew video card  I reinstall everything...is that even necessary ?
[15:06] <modernbob> roygbiv: I just do not see a single 9.10 torrent
[15:06] <clausen> RowCol, and both of them are better
[15:06] <td123> RowCol: and please don't use those ridiculous spacers
[15:06] <blue-pearl> td123: torrent is not starting (note my speed is 2kbps)
[15:06] <tiga> what is the best way to upgrade from jaunty? Should i do a dist-update or just get the iso?
[15:06] <darthanubis> Plugh, not looking very hard
[15:06] <td123> blue-pearl: it will be that speed from ubuntu.com anyway
[15:06] <preecher> i just did the update and it went smooth
[15:06] <bradpitt> java applets are freezing on karmic, too bad. anyone has the same experience?
[15:07] <roygbiv> modernbob i just went there right now and have a whole list of torrents
[15:07] <roygbiv> but it redirected me to http://noncdn.releases.ubuntu.com//releases/9.10/ this time
[15:07] <iceroot> !upgrade | tiga
[15:07] <worldsayshi> My 9.10 is stuck at 32 % :(
[15:07] <blue-pearl> td123: i mean my bandwidth is 2kbps whatever sie i download its 2 kbps.
[15:07] <roygbiv> i grabbed both the desktop and server torrents from that page just 15 mins ago
[15:07] <td123> blue-pearl: !
[15:07] <td123> blue-pearl: wow, so it doesn't really matter to you then :D
[15:07] <om26er> blue-pearl: download torrent plz
[15:07] <domjohnson_> Thats betterrrrrr
[15:08]  * JediMaster hugs his 2x 13Mbps ADSLs at home
[15:08] <ptn107> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2009-October/000127.html
[15:08] <domjohnson_> 'Sucks
[15:08]  * roygbiv 24mbits down 12mbits up :-D
[15:08] <Plugh> darthanubis: No torrent reference at all on the download page. I'm not worried about it. I've been running Karmic for several days now.
[15:08] <polarbear> why is the DVD image file so big?? o.O
[15:08] <modernbob> roygbiv: I have that page up but see no bittorent anything
[15:08] <domjohnson_> So...does anyone here actually have Karmic?
[15:08] <zipito> domjohnson_, yes
[15:08] <polarbear> domjohnson_: burning now
[15:08] <darthanubis> Plugh, I as well. To avoid the stampede
[15:08] <JediMaster> roygbiv: at home?
[15:08] <om26er> polarbear: bcoz it includes all the languages
[15:08] <roygbiv> modernbob that is wild heh. i can't explain that
[15:08] <roygbiv> JediMaster yes
[15:08] <blue-pearl> td123: ya ETA is showing 45hrs+
[15:08] <td123> polarbear: it's a dvd image... if you want something smaller, get the cd image
[15:08] <Plugh> domjohnson_: I've been running it for a few days now
[15:09] <zipito> I've installed it via update-manager -d
[15:09] <zipito> :)
[15:09] <polarbear> om26er: okay thanks :D
[15:09] <knarfix> domjohnson_: yes.....
[15:09] <domjohnson_> ok
[15:09] <JediMaster> roygbiv: sweet, what kind of connection is that?
[15:09] <polarbear> i have both dvd's and cd's. was just curious about the sizes
[15:09] <roygbiv> JediMaster it's windstream DSL
[15:09] <knarfix> domjohnson_: does ubuntu one work?
[15:09] <StrangeCharm> how can i convert a dm-crypt volume from using passphrase authentication to mount at boot, to using key-files instead?
[15:09] <magnetron> !mini
[15:09] <Plugh> domjohnson_: I downloaded the CD ISO when it was 6 days before release. Did a fresh install of Karmic on my laptop. When I saw how well it worked there, I put it on my desktop.
[15:10] <domjohnson_> Think so, knarfix
[15:10] <JediMaster> roygbiv: we've got 23Mbps ADSL at work, the office is literally next door to the exchange =)
[15:10] <knarfix> domjohnson_ : mine worked yesterday...now it doesnt
[15:10] <rm> someone seed the DVD ISOs please
[15:10] <domjohnson_> huh...
[15:10] <dewman> Is there anything extra on the DVD besides the language packs?
[15:10] <domjohnson_> Im having a lot of problems with apps starting
[15:10] <rm> there are 50-100 peers waiting on them, and not a single seed
[15:10] <furuno> !isitout
[15:11] <roygbiv> hah yea i'm lucky to be in 1 of the few areas around me they offer 24mbits because i'm closeby their exchange too
[15:11] <rm> 257 peers waiting, actually
[15:11] <fyn> how do i tell my intel mac to boot an ubuntu cd?
[15:11] <knarfix> ubottu: its out.....
[15:11] <om26er> fyn: google it?
[15:11] <treble54> can I go from Intrepid to Karmic through Update Manager? currently it only says Jaunty is available
[15:11] <fyn> om26er: i did
[15:11] <goldins> fyn: hold down option I think
[15:11] <dewman> fyn, you smack the mac.... =) lol...
[15:11] <domjohnson_> lol dewman
[15:11] <fyn> om26er: weirdly it was hard to find
[15:11] <roygbiv> rm i'm downloading 9.10 desktop and server both right now using torrents
[15:11] <td123> fyn: go to the bios and change the boot order to start from cd first
[15:11] <fyn> td123: ya, bios ... there's bios on this thing?
[15:11] <i_can_has_linux> i can has karmic!
[15:12] <Garandil> fyn; hold down alt or command button during boot
[15:12] <Boing_> i forgot how to config the bootmanager
[15:12] <JediMaster> rm: what's the easiest way? downloading the DVD directly and getting the torrent and putting it in the same dir?
[15:12] <ptn107> it is out,  official release announcement     https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2009-October/000127.html
[15:12] <td123> fyn: there's a bios on all computers
[15:12] <rm> Royall, DVD iso?
[15:12] <td123> fyn: google bios to find out more
[15:12] <Plugh> For anyone looking for Ubuntu torrents, I put "torrent" in to the search box in the corner of the Ubuntu web page. I found the page with the list of torrents is here --> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors
[15:12] <Flynsarmy> Why's it so hard to unmute from the terminal in karmic. in earlier versions itw as a 1 liner. now you ahve to type a min of 3 to unmute in karmic
[15:12] <rm> roygbiv, DVD iso? *
[15:12] <Garandil> You can't access the BIOS on mac machines..
[15:12] <i_can_has_linux> JediMaster, the torrent will probably be faster
[15:12] <tpax> Hello Friends
[15:12] <roygbiv> rm yes
[15:12] <roygbiv> rm: i got the torrents from here http://noncdn.releases.ubuntu.com//releases/9.10/
[15:13] <JediMaster> i_can_has_linux: I mean to seed the dvd, as he was saying there are no seeds
[15:13]  * penyshocker just installed Lunatic Lemur 10.04
[15:13] <treble54> can I go from Intrepid to Karmic through Update Manager? currently it only says Jaunty is available
[15:13] <fyn> option key did it, and yes pedantic dude there's certainly a bios, just not one i can go to and tell it to boot from things in a menu :)
[15:13] <tpax> In the earlier days it was easy possible to make a router out of a ubuntu machine. Now, in Ubuntu 9.10 there is no ipmasq anymore, is there a replacement or something?
[15:13] <roygbiv> i've never cared for the lemur. koalas i can handle
[15:13] <domjohnson_> knarfix: I get a capabilities mismatch
[15:13] <Boing_> i forgot how to config the bootmanager
[15:13] <tpax> Or does anyone have another good howto how to build a router with 9.10?
[15:13] <ptn107> treble54: you must upgrade to jaunty first, apply all jaunty updates, and then upgrade again
[15:13] <domjohnson_> knarfix: do you?
[15:14] <treble54> oh bummer
[15:14] <treble54> ptn107: thx for answering :)
[15:14] <Plugh> penyshocker: Um... not likely unless you have a time machine.
[15:14] <knarfix> domjohnson_: yes same here
[15:14] <ptn107> np
[15:14] <IdleOne> treble54: you can only leap frog lts to lts
[15:14] <domjohnson_> ok
[15:14] <AivariuX> If I has 9.10 RC installed I have to upgrdade su final or not?
[15:14] <knarfix> domjohnson_ yes me too
[15:14] <rm> roygbiv, i see no DVD images on that page
[15:14] <erUSUL> tpax: for a router i would use a specialized distro like ipcop or Zeroshell
[15:14] <treble54> IdleOne: good to know :) thx
[15:14] <ptn107> AivariuX: no
[15:14] <tpax> erUSUL, that's not an option right now :)
[15:14] <domjohnson_> Maybe they're doing something with the server
[15:14] <SirDidi> where i can find the md5sum?
[15:14] <mUrshEd> hi
[15:14] <roygbiv> rm: aah ok sorry i misread. they are all CD iso's yes
[15:14] <tpax> I only have ubuntu here
[15:14] <IdleOne> AivariuX: run your normal updates and you will have final
[15:14] <domjohnson_> in the meantime, you could use dropbox
[15:14] <domjohnson_> !dropbox
[15:14] <knarfix> domjohnson_ : yes i guess so
[15:15] <iceroot> SirDidi: http://noncdn.releases.ubuntu.com//releases/9.10/
[15:15] <penyshocker> i got two time machines
[15:15] <knarfix> domjohnson_ : or the server is overloaded :)
[15:15] <CrocoJet> Viva !!! Viva !!! BOOMMM !!! BOOMMM !!! Welcome 9.10 !!!
[15:15] <domjohnson_> !myself
[15:15] <domjohnson_> heh
[15:15] <SirDidi> iceroot, thx
[15:15] <penyshocker> but the time machine stucks in the future
[15:15] <roygbiv> ubottu: seek professional help
[15:15] <deviant-route> Ubuntu is the future for GNU/Linux as a desktop (:
[15:15] <erUSUL> tpax: then use something like shorewall or firehol and set it up you can add monitoring tools later
[15:16] <tpax> ok, thanx
[15:16] <aper> 6 minutes doggy dogg you're on!
[15:16]  * penyshocker uses the firewall distro: cornholio, the ultimate fork of snortwall
[15:16] <CrocoJet> cheers Ubuntu !!!
[15:16] <mUrshEd> :) lol ubottu
[15:16] <roygbiv> heh
[15:16] <CrocoJet> <<<< fireworks >>>> in my room .. Viva !!! (oh no .. fire fire fire !!)
[15:16] <Flynsarmy> Wonder what'll happen when shuttleworth retires. Next guy might not want to fuel ubuntu development as heavily
[15:16] <aper> i know a girl...
[15:16] <aper> that knows
[15:17] <aper> the language
[15:17] <aper> where they use the word ubuntu
[15:17] <aper> somewhere south african
[15:17] <aper> it's cool
[15:17] <iceroot> !ot | aper
[15:17] <FloodBot1> aper: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:17] <knarfix> Flynsarmy: he is still young :)
[15:17] <penyshocker> its zuluian
[15:17] <CrocoJet> 1 hous 16 min .. wow server is busy a lot
[15:17] <penyshocker> afaik
[15:17] <penyshocker> zulu slang
[15:17] <aper> i'm sorry i flodded folks
[15:17] <om26er> which application is good for audio playback
[15:17] <aper> zulu slang?
[15:17] <Boing_> i forgot how to config the bootmanager
[15:17] <penyshocker> yeah
[15:17] <om26er> using gstreamer
[15:17] <kyentei> Crocojet: what are you downloading? Ubuntu 9.10 32 bits just takes 13 minutes for me atm. :-)
[15:17] <sclytrack> anybody know md5 for 64 bit desktop?
[15:17] <penyshocker> yeah i know the md5
[15:18] <aper> she told me ubuntu means human
[15:18] <iceroot> Boing_: gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[15:18] <coordinador> hi
[15:18] <iceroot> sclytrack: http://noncdn.releases.ubuntu.com//releases/9.10/
[15:18] <roygbiv> ubuntu in klingon means "epic nvidia driver problems" :(
[15:18] <coordinador> i have a problem
[15:18] <CrocoJet> kyentei, yes desktop 9.10
[15:18] <Sensiva> !resolution
[15:18] <coordinador> Lucida Sans doesnt appear in OpenOffice
[15:18] <penyshocker> in zulu slang it means something like: you turn me on
[15:18] <sclytrack> thanks
[15:18] <CrocoJet> whole Brazil is downloading new ubuntu right now
[15:18] <CrocoJet> lol
[15:18] <magnetron> roygbiv: dkms has solved that for me
[15:18] <iceroot> aper: this is the support channel, please use #ubuntu-offtopic for chatting
[15:18] <aper> hahahah @ roygbiv
[15:18] <Beastmode> so is the ubuntu support channel for karmic? or ubuntu+1?
[15:18] <kyentei> CrocoJet: Darn, that takes quite some time. I recommend you chose another country near yours and see what the download speed is.
[15:18] <penyshocker> whole cuba
[15:18] <aper> thanx iceroot
[15:18] <iceroot> Beastmode: hardy, jaunty and karmic
[15:18] <welcome> !isitout
[15:19] <iceroot> welcome: it is
[15:19] <pef^> easiest way to upgrade from 9.10 beta to real 9.10? :D
[15:19] <penyshocker> hardy, jaunty, karmic, lemur
[15:19] <Pici> !final | pef^
[15:19] <iceroot> pef^: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[15:19] <welcome> iceroot : Somebody should update that bot
[15:19] <Squirm> !isitout
[15:19] <Pici> penyshocker: its Lucid Lynx
[15:19] <penyshocker> lucid lynx?
[15:19] <kyentei> iceroot: in the beta, 9.10 was using grub 1.97 (beta 3).. which does not have a menu.lst file anymore. Instead, it uses a grub.cfg file which, before you can edit, you need to give yourself write acces to first.
[15:19] <dewman> What is on the DVD of 9.10 that the cd does not have?
[15:19] <Pici> !lucid | penyshocker
[15:19] <iceroot> kyentei: ah ok, only know grub legancy
[15:19] <omani> does someone have a link to fix the fn hotkey problem under koala karmic?
[15:19] <newtolinux> torrent link to download ubuntu 9.10 please
[15:20] <IdleOne> dewman: pictures of sabdfl at the beach
[15:20] <Boing_> iceroot, Thank you
[15:20] <Pici> !torrents | newtolinux
[15:20] <iceroot> dewman: kde and other apps
[15:20] <Pici> arg
[15:20] <penyshocker> help we all going to die
[15:20] <omani> samsung nc10. ubuntu 9.10 koala karmic, wifi hotkey wont work!
[15:20] <Boing_> iceroot, Thank you
[15:20] <iceroot> Boing_: np
[15:20] <kyentei> iceroot: I see, grub2 is a little bit different. "Chmod +w" on the grub.cfg file, and then "sudo gedit" the file
[15:20] <dewman> iceroot, Thanks!
[15:20] <pvandewyngaerde> anyone got a link to the iso in europe ??     all the mirrors i look at are RC
[15:20] <iceroot> kyentei: ok, good to know
[15:20] <newtolinux> ubottu: thanks is it same version that released today?
[15:20] <iceroot> pvandewyngaerde: http://noncdn.releases.ubuntu.com//releases/9.10/
[15:20] <penyshocker> lucid lsd
[15:20] <jimqode> pvandewyngaerde, torrent it
[15:20] <penyshocker> or something
[15:21] <knarfix> pvandewyngaerde: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[15:21] <newtolinux> lol
[15:21] <newtolinux> bot
[15:21] <pvandewyngaerde> thx
[15:21] <penyshocker> lucid lisa
[15:21] <jimqode> !torrent | pvandewyngaerde
[15:21] <kyentei> No need to torrent it, the download of 9.10 is now "official" on the website itself. (main page)
[15:21] <newtolinux> Pici: thanks
[15:21] <welcome> !torrents
[15:21] <jimqode> !torrents | pvandewyngaerde
[15:21] <jimqode> sorry
[15:21] <newtolinux> but i need resume support and things
[15:21] <newtolinux> my net speed is low
[15:21] <iceroot> newtolinux: then use torrent
[15:21] <penyshocker> yeah
[15:22] <newtolinux> iceroot: :)
[15:22] <omani> samsung nc10. ubuntu 9.10 koala karmic, wifi hotkey wont work! does anybody know how to fix the problem?
[15:22] <newtolinux> ya
[15:22] <penyshocker> torrent i got 15MB/s download speeds
[15:22] <omani> Fn + F9 for wifi
[15:22] <newtolinux> wow
[15:23] <penyshocker> in the hempire of ganjania, we all got FTTH
[15:23] <Pici> !ot
[15:24] <omani> i need a workaround for my hotkey problem. samsung nc10 netboot with ubuntu 9.10 UNR. wifi hotkey doenst work!
[15:24] <cantona> can I run do-release-upgrade on ubuntu-desktop?
[15:24] <Mefached> I'm using Rhythmbox for my music, but it keeps skipping; for example, when I open a new tab in Firefox or follow a link, the audio will die for a second. It's getting annoying. Is there a quick fix or should I just use a smaller media player?
[15:24] <penyshocker> yes we can
[15:25] <zhanx> so over all how has the new release been
[15:25] <penyshocker> it smells like teen spirit
[15:25] <knarfix> cantona: yes...alt f2  then update-manager -d
[15:25] <PLO-0444> !isitout
[15:25] <Pici> knarfix: NO. -d is only for the development release. Please use -c for normal releases
[15:26] <knarfix> cantona: i assume you have jaunty
[15:26] <dewman> I wonder if the DVD will allow me to install everything at once.... =P
[15:26] <zhanx> thats weird the bot is broken
[15:26] <kyentei> ubottu: Where are you talking about?! It's on Ubuntu's main page!
[15:26] <maddog> кто то говорит по руски?
[15:26] <knarfix> cantona: see Pici's message :)
[15:26] <dwarder_> 1
[15:26] <Pici> !ru | maddog
[15:26] <iceroot> !ru | maddog
[15:26] <cantona> Pici:  instead of using gui (update-manager) , i want do use do-releaese-upgrade
[15:27] <iceroot> !upgrade | cantona
[15:27] <occy> !torrent
[15:27] <Jordan_U_> knarfix: cantona "update-manager -d" is only needed to upgrade to development releases, now that 9.10 is out it's just "update-manager" or System > Administration > Update Manager
[15:27] <Pici> cantona: okay. so use it.
[15:27] <Ali_ix> hi, where can i find DVD torrents?
[15:27] <iceroot> Ali_ix: http://noncdn.releases.ubuntu.com//releases/9.10/
[15:27] <theadmin> YAHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I sezzit. Karmic! I'm upgrading. Well...how long do these normally take?
[15:27] <kazaa_lite> hi all, i am trying to make my application start at the boot time. so I have copied my_app script in /etc/init.d
[15:27] <knarfix> Jordan_U_ : thanks
[15:28] <iceroot> theadmin: depending on the hardware and conncetion of course
[15:28] <phreestyle-work> have a question: using Preferences -> Startup Programs, how can I get a program to open in a terminal window instead of being hidden?
[15:28] <theadmin> !torrents > Ali_ix
[15:28] <cantona> do-release-upgrade is recommand for ubuntu-server, not ubuntu-desktop. so i want to know if there is problem to use it
[15:28] <Jordan_U_> knarfix: np
[15:28] <Ali_ix> wow, thanks
[15:28] <occy> I can't seem to find the Torrent for 9.10 (doesn't say so in the torrent macro either)
[15:28] <kazaa_lite> now how to achieve this behaviour on ubuntu "/sbin/chkconfig my_app --add"?
[15:28] <newtolinux> hey is the torrent the same as the iso download from homepage?
[15:28] <Jordan_U_> !torrent | occy
[15:28] <iceroot> occy: http://noncdn.releases.ubuntu.com//releases/9.10/
[15:28] <iceroot> newtolinux: yes
[15:28] <occy> Jordan_U_: heh you didn't actually read what I wrote :P  but thanks
[15:29] <newtolinux> kk
[15:29] <AaronMT> I am quadruple booting XP/2000/Vista/7 and Ubuntu just erased my entire bootup, how do I fix this
[15:29] <Jordan_U_> occy: Sorry, !torrent*s* does have the info :)
[15:29] <iceroot> !grub | AaronMT
[15:29] <dewman> LOL
[15:29] <Jordan_U_> occy: I just chose the wrong one :)
[15:29] <occy> lol
[15:29] <occy> no worries
[15:29] <theadmin> !torrents > theadmin
[15:29] <dewman> Wow. AaronMT, thats scary
[15:29] <AaronMT> Looks like I have to downgrade 9.10
[15:29] <kazaa_lite> !chkconfig
[15:29] <AaronMT> Never had this problem with 5.04
[15:30] <AaronMT> Where can I download Ubuntu 5.04 again
[15:30] <Jordan_U_> AaronMT: What do you mean by "erased your entire bootup"? Do you get an error at boot?
[15:30] <Plugh> I just did a complete removal of the nvidia drivers to get rid of the failed attempts. Since "Hardware Drivers" wasn't showing anything for my machine, I used synaptic to pick the nvidia driver packages to install. The install went well this time. Now to reboot and see if the drivers work.
[15:30] <AaronMT> 5.04 download link == ?
[15:30] <JohnTeddy> There are only 1795 people in here, that sucks. When will it be over 2k
[15:30] <Pici> AaronMT: No where, 5.04 is long out of support.
[15:30] <iceroot> AaronMT: its 4 years old...
[15:30] <Sensiva> AaronMT http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/ :]
[15:31] <AaronMT> That's alright, it works.
[15:31] <Jordan_U_> AaronMT: You do not want to install 5.04, it's no longer supported and has *known security vulnerabilities*
[15:31] <welcome> 5.04 , cool , I want to try it
[15:31] <Sensiva> oh man
[15:31] <AaronMT> Yes, but it works.
[15:31] <Sensiva> :\
[15:31] <cantona> lol
[15:31] <welcome> Downloading ....
[15:32] <polarbear> im about to install 9.10, how large should i make my swap partition?
[15:32] <Sensiva> !swap
[15:32] <ActionParsnip1> polarbear: ram x 2 is a good yard stick
[15:32] <roygbiv> 2xRAM
[15:32] <polarbear> okay, so 6gb
[15:32] <roygbiv> yes exactly
[15:32] <jmichaelx> not if you have 2GB +
[15:32] <roygbiv> woah that's huge
[15:32] <Jordan_U_> AaronMT: What do you mean by "erased your entire bootup"? Do you get an error at boot?
[15:32] <roygbiv> maybe just 1XRAM heh
[15:32] <polarbear> 4gb swap?
[15:33] <ActionParsnip1> polarbear: if you have 3Gb ram then have a 3gb swap
[15:33] <stimpie> depends on your usage
[15:33] <jmichaelx> if you have 2GB+, just match you RAM with equal amount of swap
[15:33] <roygbiv> i think swap is an outdated concept anyway, especially if you have huge RAM
[15:33] <polarbear> okay, 3gb it is :P
[15:33] <roygbiv> 3GB should be plenty
[15:33] <AaronMT> Jordan_U_: Dont worrry about it, I'm resolving this with 5.04 which works fine.
[15:33] <ActionParsnip1> roygbiv: its good for hibernate / sleep etc
[15:33] <polarbear> thanks guys, time to install <(^^,)>
[15:33] <phreestyle-work> how do I get a terminal application to start on Gnome login?
[15:34] <ActionParsnip1> !startup | phreestyle-work
[15:34] <roygbiv> ActionParsnip1 well, but that's just more just a handy side-use from its actual purpose
[15:34] <jmichaelx> AaronMT, you have my sympathies. maybe this way you will not have unresolved ipv6 DNS lookup bugs
[15:34] <phreestyle-work> ActionParsnip1: now, how do I get it to SHOW the terminal?
[15:34] <ActionParsnip1> roygbiv: true
[15:34] <ricdanger> nice site
[15:34] <ricdanger> except that stupid "TOP" :D
[15:34] <AaronMT> I'm fine with major regressions - the product works.
[15:34] <knarfix> how do i find out which graphic card i have?
[15:34] <ubuntistas> which is a better procedure creating an usb iso or cd iso ? or it's the same?
[15:35] <ActionParsnip1> phreestyle-work: i think if you write a script then select, show in terminal it should display
[15:35] <tommy^w> knarfix: lspci, lshw
[15:35] <deviant-route> how do i check the md5 of the ubuntu i just downloaded?
[15:35] <ActionParsnip1> knarfix: lspci | grep -i vga
[15:35] <msk> congrats to the UBUNTU team !
[15:35] <jrib> ubuntistas: if usb works for you, it would save you a cd...
[15:35] <phreestyle-work> ActionParsnip1: There is no "show in terminal" in the Startup Options
[15:35] <jimqode> ubuntistas, both are easy. cd iso you just download. to make a usb there is an option in system menu.
[15:35] <jrib> !install > ubuntistas
[15:35] <knarfix> thanks
[15:35] <IdleOne> !md5 | deviant-route
[15:35] <stimpie> how much free diskspace is required to update to 9.10?
[15:36] <ActionParsnip1> phreestyle-work: there is on a script though, if you right click the script you can select run in terminal, you will then add the script to the startup items
[15:36] <J_P> hi all
[15:36] <Boing_> ironic I can not see openoffice to install need to create document
[15:36] <chazco> Any word on what changed between the RC and the final?
[15:36] <ubuntistas> so jrib is the same huh?
[15:36] <ActionParsnip1> stimpie: depends on how many packages and their sizes you have
[15:36] <joaopinto> chazco, bug fixes
[15:36] <tommy^w> you should be able to install in lvm's at installation on the next ubuntu
[15:36] <jmichaelx> deviant-route, cd to to the dir where you downloaded your image, and just enter 'md5sum imagename.iso'
[15:36] <J_P> The "Marvell Dove desktop image"  and  "Freescale i.MX51 desktop image" are used for what?
[15:36] <jrib> ubuntistas: should be the same yes
[15:36] <ActionParsnip1> J_P: embedded systems that use those boards
[15:37] <deviant-route> thks jmichaelx
[15:37] <J_P> ActionParsnip1: for example?
[15:37] <iceroot> tommy^w: lvms are supported by alternate cd
[15:37] <jmichaelx> deviant-route, yw
[15:37] <ActionParsnip1> J_P: a system with a freescale mx51 board with a PROM which you will need to flash with the image
[15:37] <GiantTalkingCow> ##mac
[15:37] <ph33r> we can't upgrade from jaunty to karmic via a cd ?
[15:37] <tommy^w> iceroot, yea well i should be supported on the regular one i think
[15:37] <bourke> hi, I just updated to karmic, my mobile broadband modem worked when running on the live cd, but after installing, it appears as a cd device.  what might be missing in the install that the live cd had?
[15:37] <ActionParsnip1> ph33r: you can upgrade using the alternate cd
[15:38] <J_P> ActionParsnip1: are there a place in ubuntu site that talking about theses images for mebedded system?
[15:38] <ph33r> ActionParsnip1: oh cool, thank you :)
[15:38] <thiebaude> ActionParsnip1, thats what i didi
[15:38] <thiebaude> did
[15:38] <disappearedng> can I add msn to gtalk accounts? Does pidgin have sometign like that? are there anything on the repos that allows the 2 diff protocols to talk?
[15:38] <ActionParsnip1> J_P: not sure, its not something ive ever bothered with
[15:38] <GiantTalkingCow> A quick question to anyone with an Intel card: having any driver problems this time around/
[15:38] <GiantTalkingCow> ?*
[15:38] <ActionParsnip1> disappearedng: sure, it supports multiple protocols including msn and gtalk
[15:39] <andriijas> $ dpkg -l | grep "rc  "
[15:39] <andriijas> pi  sysv-rc                                   2.87dsf-4ubuntu11                 System-V-like runlevel change mechanism
[15:39] <andriijas> how do i make sysv-rc ii again?
[15:39] <J_P> ActionParsnip1: just curious..
[15:39] <andriijas> instead of pi
[15:39] <ActionParsnip1> GiantTalkingCow: intel make sound cards as well as video cards as well as wifi cards, can you be specific
[15:39] <zippy27> BBC coverage of ubuntu, if you haven't seen it: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8326264.stm
[15:39] <disappearedng> ActionParsnip no I mean like msn
[15:39] <TimHortons> GiantTalkingCow, 9.10rc is working MUCH better graphics wise on my intel gfx EEE
[15:39] <ActionParsnip1> disappearedng: msn is the microsoft network, can you please clarify
[15:40]  * jrib pardons zippy27 for the cool link but please use #ubuntu-offtopic in the future
[15:40] <GiantTalkingCow> TimHortons: Hmmm, the RC wouldn't recognize my card no matter what... not even the x log showed anything wrong. Just for the hell of it, I'll see if the final release fixes anything, thanks.
[15:40] <TimHortons> GiantTalkingCow, best of luck
[15:40] <disappearedng> sorry I entered too fast, I meant was it possible for gtalk's protocol to communicate with microsoft's protocol ? (like adding gtalk accounts into MS vv )
[15:40] <GiantTalkingCow> ActionParsnip1: I meant integrated video card, but timhortons answered my question, thanks.
[15:41] <omani> has anybody a workaround for fn f9 samsung nc10 koala karmic. wifi hotkey doesnt work!!!
[15:41] <syntax> wow
[15:41] <ActionParsnip1> GiantTalkingCow: remember to be specific, intel make a lot of products
[15:41] <phreestyle-work> ActionParsnip1: the "make a script" thing doesn't work either
[15:41] <SMiTTY> Why doesn't the upgrade manager on ubuntu honor proxy settings?
[15:41] <t2ttmp> i had to update to get rc to find my ion gpu
[15:41] <Guest88474> hi all. only recently started using ubuntu and im still getting to know the features but can anyone help me with this firewall??
[15:41] <kahen> does anyone know whether eclipse has been updated in karmic or if it's still stuck at the _ancient_ 3.2?
[15:41] <ActionParsnip1> phreestyle-work: hmm, then not sure, you could edit the script to run a terminal, then run a command inside it
[15:41] <iceroot> !info eclipse karmic
[15:41] <mosburn> does anyone else have issues with karmic evolution not connecting to exchange anymore
[15:41] <GiantTalkingCow> ActionParsnip1: I usually am, but it's early, I'm sick and my brain's only half working...
[15:41] <roygbiv> java :(
[15:41] <_syntax> who likes karmic so far?
[15:42] <stimpie> kahen: you can run eclipse from any directory
[15:42] <ActionParsnip1> GiantTalkingCow: np man
[15:42] <stimpie> dont need to install
[15:42] <iceroot> kahen: 3.5.1
[15:42] <ctmjr> !firewall | Guest88474
[15:42] <ttye0> stimpie, I think
[15:42] <bourke> hi, I just updated to karmic, my mobile broadband modem worked when running on the live cd, but after installing, it appears as a cd device.  what might be missing in the install that the live cd had?
[15:42] <ttye0> stimpie, I copied mine into /usr/share and then ln'd the bin
[15:42] <dios_mio> hey guys.. do we upgrade or do we just download the new ubuntu and do a new install?
[15:42] <kazaa_lite> hello
[15:43] <pelmen> ActionParsnip1: wow that was a murder, but i am back :)
[15:43] <ActionParsnip1> bourke: boot to the liveCD to make notes on modules and generally whats going on, you can then compare to whats going on with the installed system and copy settings etc
[15:43] <pelmen> ActionParsnip1: with compiz now
[15:43] <Guest88474> im using firestarter but when i go in there its saying so many serious events and shows me ips etc. are these really bad and will they get into my pc?? really worried
[15:43] <stimpie> ttye0: I have several versions running at the same time ;-)
[15:43] <magnetron> dios_mio: you can download the alternate iso and upgrade
[15:43] <ActionParsnip1> pelmen: cool, yeah sometimes drivers dont make the jump
[15:43] <AlDoug> Anyone know what channel I should join to talk about my new LAMP server?
[15:43] <bourke> ActionParsnip1: hmm could try I guess
[15:43] <dios_mio> magnetron alright
[15:43] <snellcode> dios_mio: im doing a new install, because i want to set ext4 and grub2 when it installs, and i dont have much data to worry about
[15:43] <pelmen> ActionParsnip1: another question, now my "User switch applet" does not show my Pidgin status... only my name
[15:44] <ttye0> stimpie, hah
[15:44] <ttye0> stimpie, I only use one version at a time
[15:44] <iceroot> AlDoug: #apache #php # mysql
[15:44] <anthomas8> \list
[15:44] <dios_mio> snellcode oh I see....
[15:44] <phreestyle-work> ActionParsnip1: that's not working either
[15:44] <AlDoug> thanks, iceroot
[15:44] <ActionParsnip1> pelmen: no idea, ive never used the user switcher applet
[15:44] <Law506> anyone else download the image and try to boot and get "Invalid or corrupt kernel image"
[15:44] <ActionParsnip1> phreestyle-work: thats all i can recommend
[15:44] <snellcode> dios_mio: upgrade will not do those features by default, so for me upgrade would be more work
[15:45] <dios_mio> snellcode good idea yes
[15:45] <ActionParsnip1> phreestyle-work: you'll want syntax like this: gnome-terminal --command="do some command"
[15:45] <ActionParsnip1> phreestyle-work: is that what you have?
[15:45] <phreestyle-work> ActionParsnip1: no, I tried to see if it had options like that, but --help didn't list them
[15:46] <Guest88474> anyone avaliable for help?
[15:46] <ActionParsnip1> phreestyle-work: see if that flys
[15:46] <stimpie> Guest88474: just ask
[15:46] <ActionParsnip1> phreestyle-work: if you can launch it on desktop like that then it will work as a startup item
[15:46] <g33k> i'm on ATI Technologies Inc Radeon HD 3200 Graphics card ubuntu 9.04, is there OpenGl drivers available now? is it advised to remove the drivers b4 upgrade as the previous versions
[15:46] <phreestyle-work> ActionParsnip1: that doesn't work either
[15:46] <bourke> ActionParsnip1: got it! thanks for your help. i just needed to eject the device and then modprobe usbserial. would you be able to recommend where I could put those commands so they're executed automatically?
[15:47] <ActionParsnip1> phreestyle-work: just worked here
[15:47] <Guest88474> i got firestarter installed and when i check it it tells me ive had so many serious incoming what ever its called and it shows me the ips etc in red. how much do i need to worry about this cus im new to ubuntu
[15:47] <ActionParsnip1> phreestyle-work: gnome-terminal --command="firefox http://www.rathergood.com"
[15:47] <deviant-route> where do i find ubuntu 9.10 md5 hashes
[15:47] <stimpie> anywhy to change the mirrors used by the update application? iam stuck with some rather slow ones
[15:47] <ActionParsnip1> bourke: you can use /etc/rc.local
[15:48] <bourke> ActionParsnip1: thanks very much
[15:48] <ActionParsnip1> bourke: you could create a script then simply add the script to that file (add above the exit line)
[15:48] <SMiTTY> Anyone know of a way to get update manager to work through a proxy?
[15:49] <omani> does anybody have a samsung nc10 working HOTKEYS with ubuntu 9.10???
[15:49] <Simkin> hey guys
[15:49] <Simkin> i hit some hotkey, dunno what
[15:49] <Simkin> but my screen zoomed in a little now
[15:49] <Simkin> and it is annoying, and panning around
[15:49] <bourke> ActionParsnip1: yeah. im thinking it would be better to put it somewhere so that it happens when the modem is plugged in rather than on boot. but ill figure it out
[15:49] <Simkin> how do i undo that?
[15:49] <grawity> Simkin: Windows Key + scroll wheel
[15:49] <deviant-route> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes does not show the 9.10 hashes
[15:49] <Simkin> grawity: cool!
[15:49] <Simkin> thanks man
[15:49] <rakhmad> hi guys, just want to say congrats to all ubuntu team for 9.10 release :-)
[15:49] <phreestyle-work> ActionParsnip1: It opened the terminal, but it gave me an error on login that says "There was an error creating the child process for this terminal"
[15:50] <mickster04> !karmic
[15:50] <TheSeeker1> Anyone having problems with Gwibber crashing in 9.10?
[15:50] <ActionParsnip1> phreestyle-work: strange, did the command still run?
[15:50] <phreestyle-work> ActionParsnip1: no
[15:50] <ActionParsnip1> phreestyle-work: then i'd trouleshoot the child process creation. doesnt sound good
[15:50] <ActionParsnip1> anyway kids i'm outta here
[15:50] <notfoo> man this chan is huge
[15:50] <ActionParsnip1> peace out, keep it weapon
[15:51] <mathieu> hello all
[15:51] <Ashvala> Hey! I am having probs with installing the new Karmic Koala on my machine running hardy 8.04.2
[15:52] <Ashvala> it says it cannot upgrade from a pre-release distro edition!
[15:52] <Xcell> you have to be running 9.04 to upgrade i think
[15:52] <modernbob> is there an install guide kinda like the ones I have seen for fedora where there is a step by step to setting up different apps and services
[15:52] <tobiasq> does anyone know if I need to change anything in /etc/apt/source.list to move from rc to main release?
[15:52] <mosburn> Ashvala: I dont think you can upgrade skipping that many releases
[15:52] <SMiTTY> looks like the only way to upgrade a computer behind a proxy is to use the alternate iso
[15:52] <FreQUESTeee> Hi to all !!!!
[15:53] <Ashvala> mosburn: WHy not!?
[15:53] <nyash> Hi. I've installed Ubuntu 9.10, I cannot get propretary drivers installed for both my graphic card (nvidia) and wifi (broadcom). Ubuntu 9.04 sees and installs them perfectly :/
[15:53] <Bamako> http://desert-fox.blog.hu/
[15:53] <mosburn> Ashvala: to many things tend to change and break the upgrade
[15:53] <ikonia> Bamako: why post that ?
[15:53] <Tomas1> Can anyone tell me please the checksum for the iso (i386) ?? Thanks.
[15:53] <localnnuser__> is 9.10 out=
[15:53] <localnnuser__> ?
[15:53] <devyll> where can I find support for 9.10 ?
[15:53] <Tomas1> Yes.
[15:53] <FreQUESTeee> help me please)) i have an pentium II an don't know what version to put ... !!
[15:53] <Bamako> Budapest-Bamako Rally
[15:54] <ikonia> FreQUESTeee: I wouldn't suggest putting a modern distro on it
[15:54] <Bamako> caritative help for Africa
[15:54] <Bamako> http://desert-fox.blog.hu/
[15:54] <axisys> is there a ubuntu offtopic channel available?
[15:54] <ikonia> Bamako: why are you posting that in an ubuntu support forum
[15:54] <AlDoug> localnnuser__: Hooray!
[15:54] <ikonia> axisys: #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:54] <marcosRz> congratulations ubuntu!
[15:54] <mickster04> I have receieve a battery may be broken warning everytime i turn on my asus eee 900?
[15:54] <Tomas1> Anyone? The MD5-Checksum for ubuntu-9.10-desktop-i386.iso ??
[15:54] <axisys> ikonia: thanks
[15:54] <SMiTTY> Tomas1, 98c5c361d0be5f2a07ea8fa5052e5aa48097e7f6
[15:54] <ikonia> Tomas1: it's on the website
[15:54] <Tomas1> Thanks.
[15:54] <thatdude> I just installed Ubuntu 9.10 - Notifications are way off. http://ecreon.net/ubuntu/Screenshot.png
[15:54] <SMiTTY> and yeah, it's on the site
[15:54] <Tomas1> ikonia: Didn't found it
[15:54] <Plugh> Nope. Trying to activate nvidia drivers on my desktop fails miserably.
[15:54] <Ashvala> mosburn: ok, /me has updated his hardy, now installing the  9.10 version!
[15:55] <SMiTTY> torrent.ubuntu.com
[15:55] <blue-pearl> Tomas1: http://noncdn.releases.ubuntu.com//releases/9.10/MD5SUMS
[15:55] <unr3a1> I will wait to upgrade until the production version is on the repositories.
[15:55] <raik> can we upgrade 9.04 to 9.10 from karmic koala bootable cd?
[15:55] <Tomas1> thanks :)
[15:55] <ikonia> raik: need the alternative CD
[15:55] <nyash> Anyone had any luck with Nvidia and Broadcom drivers with 9.10?
[15:55] <stan__> ko
[15:55] <Ashvala> ikonia: 8.04 can also update to 9.10 using Alternate CD!?
[15:56] <j_ack> Ashvala, 8.04 is a long time support version. the next 10.04 you can direct upgrade afaik
[15:56] <unr3a1> nyash, broadcom came out with their own linux drivers
[15:56] <TheSeeker1> Anyone have problems with Gwibber in 9.10?  It won't start just get asked to send an error report.
[15:56] <mathieu> I have another problem that needs solving... I loged on a few minutes ago only to find that my close, minimize and maximize buttons are gone along with the bar they are attached to. please help me :)
[15:56] <ikonia> Ashvala: I believe you have to go to 9.04 first
[15:56] <vaguerant_> Hey guys, just got 9.10 UNR, but the previous install instructions no longer help.
[15:56] <BlacKnight> Hey I have installed the grub2 version 1.97... but the interface looks like the legacy grub, how can I make it graphical?
[15:56] <nyash> unr3a1: oh, thanks. Wouldnt know that. I will look for them then guess. Thanks
[15:56] <vaguerant_> They talk about how to write .img files to flash media.
[15:56] <raik> ikonia what sort of alternative cd?
[15:56] <unr3a1> nyash, http://www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php
[15:56] <Ashvala> ikonia: aw! Why!?
[15:56] <ikonia> raik: the ubuntu alternative cD
[15:56] <vaguerant_> But 9.10 UNR is distributed as an iso.
[15:56] <ikonia> CD
[15:56] <ikonia> Ashvala: package dependencies
[15:57] <vaguerant_> How do I write an iso to flash media?
[15:57] <vaguerant_> Particularly as it's Ubuntu NETBOOK Remix and most netbooks don't have optical drives. :p
[15:57] <unr3a1> nyash, if you have the 4311, 4312, 4321, or 4322 broadcom cards, that link will help you.
[15:57] <Wargasm> nyash, look for bcm43xx
[15:57] <jrib> !install > vaguerant_
[15:57] <IdleOne> raik: download the Alternate install iso to upgrade from cd
[15:58] <vaguerant_> Thank you.
[15:58] <Ashvala> ikonia: The webpage:https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KarmicUpgrades/Kubuntu/8.04 says kubuntu can, why cant I!?
[15:58] <isola73dsh33p> is the installation of 9.10 suppose to take long?
[15:58] <sdsdsd> my torrent download never ends... its joking around 99,68% and 99,90% going up and down.. never ends.. its been 25 minutes
[15:58] <om26er> tell me a good audio player that use gstreamer
[15:58] <ikonia> Ashvala: you may be able to , I could be wrong
[15:58] <nyash> unr3a1: actually I dont know what kind of model is that. In windows 'ipconfig /all' shows it as Dell Wireless 1395 WLAN Mini-Card (I've got a Dell Laptop) Although Ubuntu 9.04 always proposed Broadcom drivers for it and it worked
[15:58] <IdleOne> isola73dsh33p: depends on your hardware
[15:58] <raik> idleone where can i download that from, i don;t see it on ubuntu.com?
[15:59] <IdleOne> http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[15:59] <IdleOne> raik: in that list
[15:59] <unr3a1> nyash,  do a lspci and look for network controller
[15:59] <isola73dsh33p> IdleOne, it takes about 6-9 hours!
[15:59] <isola73dsh33p> D:
[15:59] <unr3a1> nyash, it will tell you specifically what card you have
[15:59] <DamianZ> Hi, I'm trying to upgrade my ubuntu install and I just kee getting "apt_check.py crashed with SIGSEGV in visit_decref()" everytime I sudo apt-get upgrade, any ideas for the cause?
[15:59] <isola73dsh33p> now it's 14 hours D:
[15:59] <sdsdsd> yes, i pick the torrent on this site
[15:59] <guiss> hello guys, can ubuntu 9.10 be installed on a GPT partition?
[15:59] <AxesDNite> is the alternate cd a live cd too ?
[15:59] <iceroot> AxesDNite: no
[15:59] <ikonia> AxesDNite: no, just install
[15:59] <IdleOne> isola73dsh33p: :(
[16:00] <mathieu> hi,I loged on a few minutes ago only to find that my close, minimize and maximize buttons are gone along with the bar they are attached to. please help me :)
[16:00] <Wargasm> nyash, check PM
[16:00] <AxesDNite> ahh
[16:00] <sdsdsd> ubuntu-9.10-desktop-amd64.iso is a live CD ?
[16:00] <Plugh> nyash: I have got the nvidia and broadcom sta drivers working on my laptop.
[16:00] <Out_Cold> mathieu, your X is bad... restarting should fix that
[16:00] <isola73dsh33p> *cancelled update*
[16:00] <AxesDNite> because in jaunty I had to go back to old intel drivers, just wanted to check if it's working in karmic or not
[16:00] <GradysGhost> Got new Karmic installed.  Got NVidia drivers installed.  Still, I get "Desktop effects could not be enabled"
[16:00] <Out_Cold> sdsdsd, yes  a desktop disk is LIVE
[16:01] <raik> upgrading to 9.10 takes a lot of time, any other alternatives?
[16:01] <jeffrey17> GradysGhost-> did you restart X or reboot?
[16:01] <ikonia> raik: alternatives to what ?
[16:01] <sdsdsd> Out_Cold my torrent download never ends
[16:01] <GradysGhost> Rebooted.
[16:01] <raik> upgrading to 9.10 ?ikonia
[16:01] <jeffrey17> check your xorg.conf and make sure its using nvidia driver.
[16:01] <Out_Cold> sdsdsd, then take a direct download
[16:01] <ikonia> raik: clean install ?
[16:01] <IdleOne> raik: download the alternate cd
[16:01] <ikonia> raik: if you want 9.10 you have to install it or upgrade to it, how else to you expect to do it ?
[16:01] <maomao> a
[16:01] <xrdodrx> Is koala out?
[16:02] <grawity> !isitout | xrdodrx
[16:02] <ikonia> xrdodrx: yes
[16:02]  * grawity punches ubottu
[16:02] <Out_Cold> hey don't beat on my buddy ubottu
[16:02] <mathieu> thanks
[16:02]  * Plugh isn't sure what to do about nvidia drivers for the desktop. 
[16:02] <Ashvala> so, nvidia drivers aint working!?
[16:02] <raik> what is the size of alternate cd? idleone
[16:02] <jeffrey17> I just the nvidia drivers using the drivers from nvidias site.
[16:03] <Ashvala> raik: 650 MB
[16:03] <iceroot> raik: 700mb
[16:03] <Out_Cold> nvidia drivers work depending on what card you have
[16:03] <Wargasm> someone help nyash get wifi drivers without internet
[16:03] <Ashvala> 690 to be precise :P
[16:03] <GradysGhost> So where did xorg.conf go in Karmic?  It's not in /etc/X11
[16:03] <iceroot> raik: 689,6 mb
[16:03] <Plugh> Ashvala: Your mileage may vary. :-)  Nvidia 185 drivers work on my laptop but not my desktop (which has an older nvidia card)
[16:03] <Ashvala> plugh: 7200 GT here.
[16:03] <Out_Cold> there is no xorg.conf in karmic as far as i know
[16:03] <unr3a1> Wargasm, how do you expect us to do that?  he has to have a computer that can connect online to get the drivers
[16:03] <Plugh> Ashvala: 7300 LE here
[16:03] <GradysGhost> I verified that the 180 driver supports my card.  I installed it and rebooted.  That's when I got the error.
[16:03] <jeffrey17> GradysGhost-> if you create a xorg.conf in X11, itll work. just compile the drivers from nvidia site
[16:04] <Wargasm> unr3a1, he has a computer that can connect, just not the one he's working on
[16:04] <dubandy> i hate synaptic. now my computer won't start and going into recovery shell it's read only *facepalm
[16:04] <localnnuser__> Out_Cold: but if u create it, will take effect thoygh
[16:04] <blue-pearl> can GDM theme b installed on Ubuntu 9.10??
[16:04] <TecnoBrat> I quickly googled it .. but not getting any help ... whats the process to upgrade from the RC?
[16:04] <Wargasm> unr3a1, otherwise, how do you think he would be on irc?
[16:04] <unr3a1> Wargasm, well then he needs a flash drive or something.
[16:04] <isola73dsh33p> ikonia: what's clean install?
[16:04] <Out_Cold> localnnuser__, it appears so
[16:04] <TecnoBrat> I'm getting an error trying to apt-get update
[16:04] <GradysGhost> Thanks, jeffrey17.  I'll give it a shot.  The last time I did that, it crashed my PC, but I'll try it.
[16:04] <blue-pearl> changing login screen on Ubuntu 9.10 possile?
[16:04] <Wargasm> unr3a1, yeah can you talk him through the process of installing drivers without using synaptic?
[16:04] <IdleOne> TecnoBrat: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:04] <ikonia> isola73dsh33p: install it on a clean system,
[16:04] <unr3a1> Wargasm, I pointed him to where Broadcom offers their own drivers for linux, told him what command to use in ubuntu to see the hardware he has
[16:04] <Xcell> GradysGhost-    if you decide to use the drivers from nvidia site   uninstall what you are using first.. then install what you download
[16:05] <kazaa_lite> how to deamonize your application in ubuntu?
[16:05] <LuciusMare> hello,for some reason,i cant connect to the ubuntu.com,could you please give me md5 sum for the karmic,desktop i386 iso?
[16:05] <Plugh> I don't get an error. The system boots my machine but if I have nvidia drivers enabled in xorg.conf, the screen flickers madly. I can see the text console login screen in the flickering but keyboard is very sluggish and almost non-responsive.
[16:05] <Out_Cold> Wargasm, it should be in the admin or pref menu
[16:05] <ikonia> kazaa_lite: depends if the application can be demonised
[16:05] <Wargasm> unr3a1, i've tried that on my own before with no luck.
[16:05] <jeffrey17> just kill off gdm (/etc/init.d/gdm top), then compile the drivers GradysChost
[16:05] <jeffrey17> gdm stop*
[16:05] <isola73dsh33p> ikonia, no dual boot? I'm trying to upgrade using the update manager same with raik. But it takes too long
[16:05] <Xcell> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[16:05] <blue-pearl> LuciusMare: http://noncdn.releases.ubuntu.com//releases/9.10/MD5SUMS
[16:05] <jeffrey17> wow my typing sucks.
[16:06] <LuciusMare> blue-pearl: for some reason,i can not connect to the ubuntu.com,as you could read
[16:06] <ikonia> isola73dsh33p: why would you dual boot ?
[16:06] <kazaa_lite> ikonia: it is a simple printf application......i can do it on centos.
[16:06] <unr3a1> Wargasm, I will help him best I can, but he is going to have to get the driver files from one computer to the other himself... I can't help with that... lol
[16:06] <Tomas__> damn I just made a bootable ubuntu 9.04 usb key and today I see 9.10 came out lol
[16:06] <ikonia> kazaa_lite: how do you do it on centos ?
[16:06] <TecnoBrat> IdleOne: I'm getting "Unable to find expected entry  partner/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)"
[16:06] <Wargasm> unr3a1, he can do that, i just don't know how to install them once he gets them.
[16:06] <Kira> I'm starting to doubt that network upgrade is the best way to go whenever a new Ubuntu release is available.
[16:06] <dubandy> I hate computers. Im gonna go watch tedtalks instead
[16:06] <TecnoBrat> oh ... looks like its just partner .. duh
[16:06] <blue-pearl> LuciusMare: 8790491bfa9d00f283ed9dd2d77b3906 *ubuntu-9.10-desktop-i386.iso
[16:06] <haithem> cc
[16:06] <TecnoBrat> lemme try removing that .. haha
[16:06] <isola73dsh33p> ikonia, i have XP on my system :/
[16:06] <IdleOne> TecnoBrat: I have no idea what that means
[16:06]  * molinero karmic koala rulez!
[16:07] <Plugh> hm... I suppose that is my alternative. Try the nvidia drivers right from nvidia.
[16:07] <ikonia> isola73dsh33p: that has nothing to do with your ubuntu install
[16:07] <Xcell> molinero-  ya
[16:07] <Xteven> !isitout
[16:07] <LuciusMare> blue-pearl: thanks
[16:07] <k1dugar> nice :) everytime i join ubuntu channel , People in room are always higher then before. Keep up the good work.
[16:07] <localnnuser__> Tomas__: talking about it... remastersys wont work with 910
[16:07] <isola73dsh33p> ikonia, so, i have to remove everything including 9.04?
[16:07] <blue-pearl> LuciusMare: welcome
[16:07] <ikonia> isola73dsh33p: just your linux OS
[16:07] <kazaa_lite> ikonia: here is what i have done: copied it into /etc/init.d and then issued the command update-rc.d app defaults and it shows me that all symlinks were created ---- this is how i am doing on ubuntu
[16:07] <Kira> Thousands upon thousands of people would be hammering the repositories in the period of a few days.
[16:07] <Tomas__> ummm, whats remastersys anyway
[16:08] <Tomas__> i'm new :)
[16:08] <unr3a1> Wargasm, I am helping him via private chat.
[16:08] <ikonia> kazaa_lite: that won't demonize it - that just executes it at start up
[16:08] <Xcell> sys cloning
[16:08] <localnnuser__> Tomas__: ive found some error in the code of remastersys ive correct it, but still... some problems with ubiquity and grub2...
[16:08] <ubuntu_> brasil
[16:08] <isola73dsh33p> ikonia, this is my first time upgrading, so i basically don't know anything ^.^;
[16:08] <kazaa_lite> ikonia: but it never starts on bootup... in centos i can use chkconfig to do that
[16:08] <Plugh> Hm... very odd. ubuntu not only doesn't use runlevels the way another distro I've used does, it doesn't even have /etc/inittab
[16:08] <jpds> Plugh: Yes, we use Upstart.
[16:08] <Kira> Why not recommend that people download the installation disk image via bittorrent and upgrade using the mounted disk image?
[16:08] <kazaa_lite> ikonia: i want it to start running at boot time as well
[16:08] <Tomas__> is the problem on netbook remix too?
[16:09] <ikonia> kazaa_lite: well that's already setup, but you'd have to do something like nohup $program &
[16:09] <Plugh> jpds: ok. Any quick pointers what I type on the kernel command line of grub to tell it my system not to start X when I boot?
[16:09] <blue-pearl> people who have finished downloading Ubuntu 9.10,plz tel me if it is possible to install GDM themes(change login screen) from the screenshot which i see on net it seems2me that option is missing frm menu
[16:09] <vikas_> hi guys ubuntu 9.10 is out
[16:09] <ikonia> Plugh: that's not a kernel argument
[16:09] <ikonia> Plugh: that's do with init
[16:09] <vikas_> but i am having probs in installing
[16:09] <ikonia> vikas_ we know
[16:10] <jpds> Plugh: init=/bin/bash?
[16:10] <TecnoBrat> IdleOne: looks like the "partner" repository is broken
[16:10] <kazaa_lite> ikonia: where should i do it? on shell?
[16:10] <Kira> !torrents
[16:10] <richardcavell> what happened to the #ubuntu+1 channel?
[16:10] <vikas_> ikonia, so what do u think the probs is?
[16:10] <ikonia> kazaa_lite: in your init script
[16:10] <ikonia> vikas_: no idea, I meant we know it's out
[16:10] <IdleOne> TecnoBrat: it is preventing the upgrade from completing?
[16:10] <tmx> hi all
[16:10] <TecnoBrat> IdleOne: removed that, and apt-get update works perfectly
[16:10] <IdleOne> TecnoBrat: way to go
[16:10] <tmx> i think 9.10 is verry nice
[16:10] <jezlee> hi, 9.10 does not install on my computer - it boots then I get kicked to a flashing command prompt
[16:10] <kevdog> richardcavell:  I think the ubuntu+1 channel is here now until the work on the next distro starts
[16:10] <Plugh> ikonia, In Fedora, when I had a problem with my X config I could enter a 1, or 3 at the end of the kernel line to start in that run level and not run X (which was set for runlevel 5).
[16:11] <kevdog> jezlee: Use alternate cd
[16:11] <vikas_> i just see mouse pointer rolling, doesnt go further
[16:11] <jezlee> kevdog use what alternate cd ?
[16:11] <vikas_> is there anyone here tried installing ubuntu 9.10?
[16:11] <mathieu> hello all i just started my pc to find the close, minimize and maximize buttons where missing along with the title bar
[16:11] <ikonia> Plugh: ubuntu uses runlevel 2 for X so you have to disable it in the init process, you can boot into single user mode though and it won't start
[16:11] <kazaa_lite> ikonia: i am not using any init script
[16:11] <ikonia> vikas_: just ask YOUR question
[16:11] <blue-pearl> people who have finished downloading Ubuntu 9.10,plz tel me if it is possible to install GDM themes(change login screen) from the screenshot which i see on net it seems2me that option is missing frm menu
[16:11] <ikonia> kazaa_lite: if you want it to boot at start up, you'll have to use one
[16:12] <Plugh> ikonia: I can't disable X in the init process if I can't log in to my machine due to broken X config.
[16:12] <IdleOne> !alternate | jezlee
[16:12] <kevdog> jezdee:  The alternate CD download -- not that main .iso -- alternate cd is a text base installer -- sounds confusing but really its very simple
[16:12] <keke> i have downloaded 64 bit ubuntu 9.10. and im trying to install through wubi. yet wubi tries to download 32 bit ubuntu. i have a 64 bit system.
[16:12] <thatdude> 9.10 notifications is killing me - it's displaying way at the bottom.
[16:12] <kenshin_> I am new to linux. So I just wanted to ask how to run a shell script without using ./
[16:13] <Sensiva> keke place wubi and the 64bit iso image in the same folder and start wubi
[16:13] <nickhuggins> Can anyone tell me wether I should download 32bit or 64bit ubuntu for the new macbook pro (13 inch)
[16:13] <vikas_> thatdude, did you managed to install 9.10?
[16:13] <miromanyth> How do I change the icon for a single program? Such as the icon for Sonata, or even the icon for the Gnome menu button?
[16:13] <bradpitt> Java Applets are freezing. here's the image http://i362.photobucket.com/albums/oo62/petsoundsband/Screenshot-5.png
[16:13] <thatdude> vikas_: Yes
[16:13] <Plugh> kenshin_: mark the script as executable and put it in a directory that is in your search path
[16:13] <k1dugar> kenshin_: 64bit
[16:14] <gmarsh> What do I do to update my 9.10rc system to 9.10 stable?  Does it effect anything if I do not?
[16:14] <unr3a1> Wargasm, nyash disconnected... :P
[16:14] <MichaelKohler> hi, I used the karmic beta and have always upgraded the packages.. do I now have automatically the final version like that?
[16:15] <sumo_su> I cant get my karmic online wirelessly because of this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic/+source/jockey/+bug/443185 is there a workaround for this without going online?
[16:15] <ripps> !beta | MichaelKohler
[16:15] <kevdog> gmarsh: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude safe-upgrade --- No it will do nothing if you don't upgrade
[16:15] <MichaelKohler> thanks ripps
[16:15] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - If you couldn't speak to the channel during the past minutes, please try again now.
[16:15] <Guest21677> Hi!
[16:15] <gmarsh> kevdog: Thanks!
[16:15] <jhb1608> are ubuntu 9.10 out yet?
[16:16] <nickhuggins> Should I use 64bit or 32bit for the new macbook pro 13 inch?
[16:16] <H> 64bit :)
[16:16] <Sensiva> jhb1608 yes it is out /topic
[16:16] <mathieu> i just started my pc to find the close, minimize and maximize buttons where missing along with the title bar
[16:16] <kyentei> Why is my "nVidia driver X-server" driver not in the list with drivers anymore?
[16:16] <jgayer> hi guys
[16:16] <keke> i have downloaded 64 bit ubuntu 9.10. and im trying to install through wubi. yet wubi tries to download 32 bit ubuntu. i have a 64 bit system.
[16:16] <jhb1608> well how do I upgrade?
[16:16] <Guest21677> Ubuntu Rocks!!!!!!
[16:16] <Sensiva> keke place wubi and the 64bit iso image in the same folder and start wubi
[16:17] <guitar-maniac> hey! can't seem to get timidity working, it's installed but it doesn't show...?
[16:17] <phil_fl> nickhuggins: yes 64x
[16:17] <Sensiva> !upgrade | jhb1608
[16:17] <nickhuggins> thanks
[16:17] <keke> Sensiva i cant because i need to launch wubi from the ISO... theres no standalone wubi 9.10 yet i think
[16:18] <Moonlit> so uh... what's the deal with the "Show icons in menus" checkbox?
[16:18] <strix> does anyone have problem with syncing ubuntu one gnome client?
[16:18] <Sensiva> keke no there is standalone wubi for 9.10
[16:18] <minimouse> huhu
[16:18] <axisys> when I (iqbala) ssh to a box and ci/edit/co a file rcs knows its me because its picks it up from $LOGNAME.. but if I su - joe and then ci/edit/co rcs thinks `joe' edited the file because the $LOGNAME changed to `joe'.. how do make sure `su - joe` carries the login user's name as the $LOGNAME? `who am i' seems to always know its me even after su - joe
[16:18] <Sensiva> keke http://noncdn.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/karmic/wubi.exe
[16:18] <keke> Sensiva where? on site no
[16:18] <aubre> Ubuntu 9 and Karmic Koala are  top 10 trending topics on twitter :)
[16:18] <keke> k ty
[16:19] <minimouse> kann mir einer sagen wie ich nen bouncer bei xchat hinzufueg?
[16:19] <phil_fl> !de | minimouse
[16:19] <jeffrey17> kde is better ^_^
[16:19] <Ramunas> interal server error on one.ubuntu.com
[16:19] <Ramunas> :/
[16:20] <minimouse> ah kk
[16:20] <minimouse> tz
[16:20] <minimouse> ty*
[16:20] <Djon> Hi, I just noticed that Ubuntu 9.10 can handle my raid natively now. If I intall it on my raid, which is seen correctly by the installer, will the dual boot ubuntu/windows work?
[16:20] <mathieu>  hello can someone please help me? I just started my pc to find the close, minimize and maximize buttons where missing along with the title bar
[16:21] <bradpitt> hi.. java applets are freezing. please take a look at this http://i362.photobucket.com/albums/oo62/petsoundsband/Screenshot-5.png
[16:21] <jeffrey17> mathieu-> are you using compiz?
[16:21] <deviant-route> could someone point me to a link that shows ubuntu 9.10 desktop 1386 md5 hash please
[16:21] <jeffrey17> and emerald themer?
[16:21] <Ramunas> any of you have ubuntu-one working?
[16:21] <boknoy> hi guys, whatt's the licensing terms of msttfcorefonts? can I use them for commercial purposes?
[16:21] <iceroot> Djon: just interesting, useing the normal cd or alternate cd?  9.04 alternate was supporting raids too
[16:21] <tekryan> bradpitt: just so you know that was happening to me earlier on my winbox
[16:21] <timmmm> If I installed Karmic Release Candidate, Do I have to upgrade my system to the final release?
[16:21] <tekryan> might be a facebook coding issue
[16:21] <jeffrey17> didnt it only support "fake raid"
[16:22] <iceroot> timmmm: yes
[16:22] <minimouse> #ubuntu-de
[16:22] <iceroot> timmmm: final is released today
[16:22] <timmmm> iceroot, whats the best way to do that?
[16:22] <iceroot> timmmm: download the final and install it
[16:22] <timmmm> iceroot, I want to keep all my settings and everything, I prefer not to do a fresh install
[16:22] <iceroot> timmmm: so you want to update from Rc to final only?
[16:22] <iceroot> !final | timmmm
[16:23] <aubre> timmmm: you may want to consider in the future putting things like /home in a separate disk volume to make that easier
[16:23] <bradpitt> tekryan : how u fix that?
[16:23] <timmmm> ubottu, thanks I did that, and nothing was new or installed
[16:23] <seniorheuser> hi all
[16:23] <blue-pearl> people who have finished downloading Ubuntu 9.10,plz tel me if it is possible to install GDM themes(change login screen) from the screenshot which i see on net it seems2me that option is missing frm menu
[16:24] <lukes> the geeky me really wants to upgrade from jaunty but the reasonable part of me wants to wait till it stabilizes
[16:24] <gypsymauro> hi
[16:24] <SMiTTY> timmmm, you might use the alternate cd and select upgrade. other than that, like ubottu said, apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:24] <kevdog> lukes:  You are about the only person in this forum demonstrating any intelligence :)
[16:24] <Sensiva> :D
[16:24] <gypsymauro> trying to startx it says (EE) Failed to load module "i810" (module does not exist, 0)
[16:24] <h0ss> does anyone else feel like registering is NOT in alignment with Ubuntu's mission statement?
[16:24] <gypsymauro> and in fact I've an 800x600 resolution...
[16:24] <timmmm> SMiTTY, when i do those commands, nothing new is installed, how can i check if I am still running the RC or the final?
[16:24] <seniorheuser> short question: is it true that an upgrade from 9.04- won't upgrade grub?
[16:25] <Fishie> seniorheuser, true
[16:25] <seniorheuser> fishie, thanks
[16:25] <Skaperen> h0ss: registering for what?
[16:25] <Fishie> seniorheuser, as Ubuntu says it's a very risky operation, it is not included
[16:25] <gypsymauro> but I've installed xserver-xorg-video-intel
[16:25] <Djon> iceroot: I used the desktop cd (live), and I was able to mount my raid as a normal disk, then I tried to run the instal from the current session and it proposed me two disks, my nvidia raid and my storage hdd. So I wonder if grub will handle the raid for woth ubuntu and windows.
[16:25] <gypsymauro> why can't load the module??
[16:25] <Fishie> seniorheuser, you can do it manually, but as they've stated, it's risky :)
[16:25] <h0ss> Skaperen: to participate in irc chat.
[16:25] <Fishie> So own risk
[16:25] <seniorheuser> fishie, yeah thought so... then it will be a reinstall :)
[16:26] <timmmm> thanks guys, peace
[16:26] <boknoy> any one can point me to the license of ms-ttf-corefonts?
[16:26] <Skaperen> h0ss: you can start your own channel ... maybe others prefer at least some means to hold spammers back
[16:26] <seniorheuser> fishie, well thanks for your help...i'm out again...
[16:27] <Skaperen> h0ss: you can do a fake registering, too
[16:27] <ricdanger> http://www.ubuntu.com/
[16:27] <ricdanger> site is broken
[16:27] <DingTo> anyone allready got new Ubuntu work with Fritz WLAN STick?
[16:27] <h0ss> Skaperen: Your "solution" doesnt address my initial question; but thank you for acknowledging it.
[16:28] <drdre> Hi ppl help i need to install the Xbmc ore the voddler.com----on my ubuntu 9.10
[16:28] <DeadmanIncJS> 9.10 baby!!  i love this new look
[16:28] <Tomas__> I just noticed the netbook remix 9.10 is ISO format...how do you get around it fast?
[16:28] <vigo> Is there a way or a function or pkg to 'snap' the mouse cursor to center screen. Sometimes the mouse wanders to the edge or some odd place and I would like a key macro to center it or better yet a voice command?
[16:28] <DeadmanIncJS> anyway, i need Flash player
[16:28]  * zenlinuxPDX is backing up his laptop now in prep for the Koala
[16:28] <dserodio> Is 9.10 final the same as 9.10 RC ? Do I need to download the ISO again?
[16:29] <flan_suse> Will 9.10 have the ability to install to an encrypted root partition?
[16:29] <gypsymauro> I've no a xorg.conf file..how can I generate one?
[16:29] <Skaperen> h0ss: IRC registration is not registering with Ubuntu ... I don't understand your worry ... OTOH, I don't care since I don't want to be in a channel that is easy for drive-by spammings
[16:29] <dserodio> gypsymauro: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[16:29] <Pici> h0ss: You are not required to register for this channel at this time.
[16:30] <jondecker76> can anyone explain to me what exactly the new "cloud" feature is with the new server edition?  Like what would it be used for?
[16:30] <vigo> DeadmanIncJS: Flash is available in the Repositories or Software-Center.
[16:30] <awmcclain> What user does cron run as when executing cron.daily?
[16:30] <DeadmanIncJS> vigo, i know but i never know which one to get
[16:30] <Moonlit> why doesn't unchecking "Show icons in menus" stop showing all icons in menus?
[16:30] <dserodio> Does anyone have the 9.10 ISOs' MD5 hashes?
[16:30] <flan_suse> All the servers to download the ISOs are extremely slow right now, lol.
[16:31] <abdulmannan> Enter text here...HELLO
[16:31] <gypsymauro> dserodio: no way
[16:31] <DeadmanIncJS> i downloaded via torrent :)
[16:31] <Oli```> Anybody know where the django admin files resource files are kept in a karmic install?
[16:31] <flan_suse> But does anyone know if 9.10 has the feature to install to an encrypted root partition?
[16:31] <gypsymauro> dserodio: it runs but nothing produced
[16:31] <disappearedng> anything good to organize ebooks, pdf? I have a lot and I want something that let me see the front of the book easilyt
[16:31] <vigo> DeadmanIncJS: I usually get the 6 from Sun, then the restricted one,
[16:31] <blue-pearl> dserodio:8790491bfa9d00f283ed9dd2d77b3906 *ubuntu-9.10-desktop-i386.iso
[16:31] <boknoy> so, am I allowed to use msttcorefonts for commercial purposes or not?
[16:31] <DeadmanIncJS> last time somebody gave me a code to run in terminal
[16:31] <Sensiva> dserodio http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/karmic/MD5SUMS
[16:32] <Morydd> does it make any sense to use the netbook edition on an old laptop (ie 1998 ish)
[16:32] <HBX> can i upgrade from rc1 to rtm...
[16:32] <abdulmannan> HOW CAN WE REQUEST UBUNTU T-SHIRT
[16:32] <h0ss> Skaperen: It just pisses me off that they advertise irc chat as a means for support yet the chat medium that they choose enforces registration.  I was in the channel about an hour ago and failed to see the "drive-by" spamming.
[16:32] <Sensiva> boknoy you may download msscorefonts package and check its license in the README.TXT
[16:32] <Pici> abdulmannan: buy it at the store.
[16:32] <renato_> hey!
[16:32] <ripps> !final | HBX
[16:32] <h0ss> pici: yes you do have to register with this irc server to get into this channel.
[16:32] <vigo> DeadmanIncJS: But that is all really system dependent, ideally you may want the one pkg that works best with your hardware.
[16:33] <abdulmannan> I WNT TO ORDER FREE
[16:33] <renato_> !list
[16:33] <Moonlit> Morydd - personally I never bothered, 9.04 desktop worked great on my eee, with the exception of a few dialogs being too big (but netbook had the same issue)
[16:33] <abdulmannan> HI
[16:33] <ctmjr> !caps | abdulmannan
[16:33] <Bacon> Where can I download a free microsoft word licke apaclatipn for my blackberry
[16:33] <orangefly> dell latitude d630-9.4 worked with my wireless otb, 9.10 says device not ready....any suggestions....???....
[16:33] <devyll> can you suggest how can I fix the sound problem with 9.10 having Intel sound card :  Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)
[16:33] <devyll> ?
[16:33] <abdulmannan> I WANT TO ORDER FREE
[16:34] <Morydd> Moonlit: I was just thinking that the lower system demands would be better on an old machine.
[16:34] <Moonlit> Morydd - didn't really seem to be much different on my eee, though I suppose you could try both and see which you prefer
[16:34] <ctmjr> abdulmannan: there are no free t-shirts and turn off the caps
[16:34] <Moonlit> but that was 9.04, 9.10 might be different
[16:34] <blue-pearl> people who have finished downloading Ubuntu 9.10,plz tel me if it is possible to install GDM themes(change login screen) from the screenshot which i see on net it seems2me that option is missing frm menu
[16:34] <boknoy> Sensiva, I read it and the included EULA for msttfcorefonts, but it doesn't really make it clear to what I can do with it.
[16:35] <polarbear> need some help that should be easy. so my function keys for brightness down and up are not working, but i know the command to change the brightness. how would i be able to bind those keys with the command to change the brightness
[16:35] <kazaa_lite> it is so disappointing that there is not even a single tutorial that explains with some dummy_app example of how to make dummy_app to start at boot time for ubuntu
[16:35] <ripps> blue-pearl: nope, nobody has programmed a method to easily change themes for the gdm rewrite yet
[16:35] <Sensiva> boknoy and its not clear for me too lol may be you should consult a lawyer
[16:35] <KurtKraut> I'd like to download the Karmic ISO from torrent and then mount it to upgrade from it. But how can I make the system recognize the mounted ISO in the same way if I inserted a burned CD? How can I upgrade from a mounted ISO?
[16:35] <Morydd> Moonlit: thanks for the feedback. right now that machine is serving as a doorstop so trial and error is acceptable. :)
[16:36] <dserodio> kazaa_lite: are you somwhat confortable with shell scripts?
[16:36] <guyvdb_> kazaa_lite what are you trying to start?
[16:36] <Sensiva> !upgrade | KurtKraut
[16:36] <micio> ciao
[16:36] <micio> !list
[16:36] <Moonlit> lol Morydd, may as well give it a shot then, not much to lose :)
[16:36] <h0ss> Anyone here with experience with Acer Aspire One?  I have having problems getting the wireless NIC working.
[16:36] <abdulmannan> I CAN GET FREE GIFT FROM UBUNTU
[16:36] <kazaa_lite> dserodio: i am not excellent with srcipts but can get the info from them
[16:36] <IndyGunFreak> h0ss, mine worked fine... do you have the atheros device?
[16:36] <Sensiva> abdulmannan caps dude :\
[16:36] <Moonlit> dunno h0ss, might try on my eee later if I can figure out how to remove icons from the menus
[16:36] <blue-pearl> ripps: i mean to change the login screen.....i think the option is missing frm menu (saying this after seeing the screenshots from net)
[16:37] <abdulmannan> GH
[16:37] <boknoy> Sensiva, "You may install and use an unlimited number of cop
[16:37] <boknoy> ies of the SOFTWARE PRODUCT." doesn't really say if I can use it for commercial purposes though... :\
[16:37] <dserodio> Sensiva: thanks, I'll add it to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[16:37] <kazaa_lite> guyvdb_: i have some app which i want to startup when i boot linux machine... assume it is hello_world application.... i can make it with centos, but sucking in ubuntu
[16:37] <ripps> blue-pearl: gdm is the login screen, it was rewritten. Gnome hasn't made an app to change themes yet
[16:37] <IndyGunFreak> Moonlit, remove icons from the menu?...
[16:37] <abdulmannan> I CAN GET FREE GIFTS OF UBUNTU
[16:37] <timdot> boknoy, what exactly do you want to do to ubuntu?
[16:37] <h0ss> IndyGunFreak:  Default drivers didnt work.  I downloaded madwifi and I got the LED to work, but I cant see any access points.
[16:37] <flan_suse> cdimage.ubuntu.com is not even loading for me. I guess everyone is rushing to grab 9.10.
[16:37] <Bacon> No it is the things that you but at the ubuntu store that keeps the ubuntu project live and well
[16:37] <Moonlit> IndyGunFreak - yeah, the "Show icons in menus" checkbox doesn't remove all icons from the panel menus when you uncheck it
[16:37] <blue-pearl> ripps: oh...too bad.
[16:37] <guyvdb_> kazaa_lite: if it is a gnome app try System->Preferences->Startup Applications and then click add button. If it is a daemon then you must write a shell script
[16:37] <timdot> boknoy, as in.. do you plan to sell it?
[16:38] <Sensiva> boknoy seriously I have no idea, and I don't think so, please consult someone who is familiar with copyright laws and terms
[16:38] <KingOfDos> hm. who's maintaining the nl.archive.ubuntu.com? the ipv6 uplink is very slow/poor
[16:38] <HBX> Linux hbx-desktop 2.6.31-14-generic-pae #48-Ubuntu SMP Fri Oct 16 15:22:42 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linu
[16:38] <HBX> is that the final
[16:38] <IndyGunFreak> Moonlit, oh you're talking about NBR.. sorry
[16:38] <kazaa_lite> it is deamonize
[16:38] <timdot> KingOfDos, there's a *lot* of load, in fairness
[16:38] <Moonlit> IndyGunFreak - nope, desktop, installed in a VM right now
[16:38] <ctmjr> abdulmannan: free gifts are in #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:38] <kazaa_lite> guyvdb_: but i could not find any sample script as well for ubuntu
[16:38] <KingOfDos> timdot: hehe, but ipv4 is working fine
[16:38] <IndyGunFreak> Moonlit, hmm
[16:39] <guyvdb_> kazza_lite there is an example deamon script in /etc/init.d called skeleton
[16:39] <IndyGunFreak> h0ss, are you using 9.04?
[16:39] <KingOfDos> maybe not at this point, but i'm talking in general terms ;)
[16:39] <timdot> KingOfDos, ohh.. fair enough :)
[16:39] <boknoy> timdot, not really, say I want to use it in a movie or as packaging. I'm also thinking about msttcorefonts not coming directly from microsoft.
[16:39] <orangefly> dell latitude d630-9.4 worked with my wireless otb, 9.10 says device not ready....any suggestions....???....
[16:39] <KingOfDos> ipv4 is "normally" fast (1400kB/s). and ipv6 slow in general (120kB/s)
[16:39] <lilleman> gnome applications (like gedit, firefox) does not work with me customizing ISO_Level3_Shift with xmodmap. It works fine in X-programs like the terminal
[16:39] <KingOfDos> and it's the same host i guess :P
[16:39] <h0ss> IndyGunFreak: I am using 8.10  I know I should upgrade, but bandwidth is an issue right now.
[16:39] <Moonlit> IndyGunFreak - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1295357 is all I can really find on it, and a few bug reports suggest it's a design decision, but it's one I certainly don't understand, I mean I'd tick the box if I wanted icons, surely?
[16:40] <timdot> boknoy, that'd be fine, as far as I know - check which license Ubuntu is under, i think it's mainly GPL
[16:40] <lilleman> Any help with that would be nice
[16:40] <Hukka> Has anybody noticed bad distortions in audio lately? I guess some update (from karmic RC) has done something related to either ALSA or pulseaudio, but don't know what
[16:40] <lilleman> worked fine in 9.04, but stopped working in 9.10
[16:40] <IndyGunFreak> h0ss, yeah, those AA1s usually hve one of two different devices.. most of them work fine w/ 9.04 and 9.10
[16:40] <bao__> can someone donate a ssh account?
[16:40] <JonathanEllis> I am about to install Karmic. I understand that it will be faster to delete my partitions and start again with ext4. At the moment I have a separate home partition which is ext3. The reason I did this was to make backup easier and also so I could just hook up new distro versions to my existing home. Now, having a separate home partition is a bit limiting so can anyone suggest a better way to migrate my data across to karmic?
[16:40] <IndyGunFreak> orangefly, what wireless device?
[16:40] <mattgyver> Im having some troubles getting RDP to work externally with Virtual Box to connect to my WinXP machine, can anyone assist?
[16:41] <kwyjibo> can someone tell me the name of the program used to edit GTK theme colours via right-clicking the desktop?
[16:41] <Bangladesh> hybernates...
[16:41] <roygbiv> JonathanEllis why is a home partition limiting? just curious
[16:41] <KurtKraut> bao__, http://www.cjb.net/shell.html
[16:41] <boknoy> timdot, but the sourceforge says "Anyone can download and install these fonts for their _own_ use. "
[16:41] <h0ss> IndyGunFreak:  If the default driver and madwifi doesnt work, do you have any recoommendations for another driver.  Hell the NICmight be working for all I know, I just may not be informed enough to find the access point.
[16:41] <dury> hi there channel :)
[16:41] <timdot> boknoy, the font files themselves are in breach of copyright *i think*
[16:41] <orangefly> IndyGunFreak, one second....the first time it searched for drivers, now it's found them....
[16:42] <IndyGunFreak> h0ss, well, which atheros device do you have?
[16:42] <JonathanEllis> roygbiv: Oh simply because my hard disk is only 40GB so I have to be careful how much space I allocate to root and how much to home
[16:42] <timdot> boknoy, and that's why they can't be included in the repo (just a thing that fetches them)
[16:42] <DanaG> yeargh, kwin4 is laggy compared to compiz.
[16:42] <JonathanEllis> I have a second hard disk which I mount to another folder inside home
[16:42] <h0ss> IndyGunFreak:  How do I check?
[16:42] <timdot> boknoy, regardless, you should be okay.. i'm pretty sure you won't be sued for it :)
[16:42] <polarbear> does anyone have a basic understanding of binding keys? i need help with binding my function keys
[16:42] <dury> there is not kooka any more in ubuntu
[16:42] <IndyGunFreak> h0ss, lspci in a terminal will kick it out(thats a lowercase L)
[16:43] <kwyjibo> hi. i have a really basic question. can someone tell me the name of the program launched that edits GTK theme colours via right-clicking the desktop?
[16:43] <bostongeek24> i don't see karmic in my update manager
[16:43] <dury> where is it possible to get kooka for jaunty
[16:43] <boknoy> :\ I don't want to look for a different typeface. I really like to use Bookman Old Style as part of a logo. Yeah, to hell with it's eula. Bookman is such a nice font :lol:
[16:43] <h0ss> IndyGunFreak:  I am on windows right now and device manager says "Atheros AR5007EG"
[16:43] <wilhart> ok i get todays release from: http://releases.ubuntu.com/karmic/?C=M;O=A
[16:43] <boknoy> thanks guys :D
[16:43] <dury> not kooka package found in Synaptic
[16:43] <bostongeek24> do i have to download it from unbuntu? or does it show up as an update?
[16:44] <JonathanEllis> bostongeek24: I had a disaster when I did an in place distribution upgrade. Its safer to do a clean install
[16:44] <ctmjr> bostongeek24: what distro are you running now?
[16:44] <mattgyver> JonathanEllis, What happend?
[16:44] <Jeruvy> bostongeek24: it should show up as a dist upgrade, unless your running 8.04
[16:44] <bostongeek24> im using the beta of karmic
[16:44] <IndyGunFreak> h0ss, i remember something weird about that device w/ 8.10, hang on
[16:44] <ripps> kwyjibo: gnome-appearance-properties
[16:44] <G__81> Another great Ubuntu release is out! Ubuntu 9.10 aka Karmic Koala with great new features and a new look.
[16:44] <G__81> Have a read of the Ubuntu 9.10 Release Notes.
[16:44] <G__81> Congratulations and a huge thanks to all involved in this release! You ROCK!
[16:44] <G__81> And now it’s time to party!
[16:44] <G__81> Check https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KarmicReleaseParties for the nearest party and join the worldwide celebrations for the most popular koala ever!
[16:44] <FloodBot1> G__81: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:44] <G__81> If you’re in Dublin, Ireland, join us on Saturday, Oct 31st!
[16:44] <bostongeek24> when i check for updates it says there is none
[16:44] <h0ss> IndyGunFreak:  You're my hero.
[16:44] <kwyjibo> ripps: thank you
[16:45] <Moonlit> IndyGunFreak - that card worked in 9.04 if I recall, I had issues with it on my eeepc 701 in 8.xx
[16:45] <JonathanEllis> mattgyver: Cant remember but I remember I had to delete the partition and start again
[16:45] <ctmjr> bostongeek24: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:45] <IndyGunFreak> Moonlit, yeah, it works fine in 9.04/9.10. but he can't upgrade.
[16:45] <G__81> how is 9.10
[16:45] <Moonlit> IndyGunFreak - ahh, I see
[16:46] <om26er> G_81: master peice
[16:46] <G__81> is it worth an upgrade ?
[16:46] <polarbear> is there a config file that can be executed when your laptop is on battery?
[16:46] <ripps> G__81: try a livecd, and decide for yourself :)
[16:46] <Fishie> G__81, ofc it's worth
[16:46] <Fishie> :D
[16:46] <JonathanEllis> bostongeek24: The other reason it would be good to start from scratch is that the EXT4 file system is faster than EXT3 and if you upgrade a file system from 3 to 4 you dont get the full performance benefit. Or so I read anyway
[16:46] <G__81> why is this being said about 9.10
[16:46] <G__81> http://linux-network-plumber.blogspot.com/
[16:47] <h0ss> quick question, is ext4 raid friendly, and doest the alt cd support hardware/software raid?
[16:47] <pradeep> Every time I mount my other partitions i must always enter the password. How do i avoid it?? In jaunty i had to authenticate only once:-(
[16:47] <IndyGunFreak> h0ss, look in synaptic, and see if you have "ubuntu-restricted-extras" installed
[16:47] <bostongeek24> i can't do sudo it tells me my password is incorrect
[16:47] <bastid_raZor> G__81: people don't like change.
[16:47] <Take0n> guys I have a microsoft mouse which has 2 extra buttons at the left side and I want to use them for controlling the volume.. Ubuntu recognizes those buttons (I tested with xev) but I can't find any settings to enter what they should do
[16:47] <om26er> g_81: you really look at that kind of crap?
[16:48] <G__81> its not crap i believe the person who has written is a kernel developer
[16:48] <leohartx> i used openssl dgst -md5 to check my amd 64 desktop version iso, and i got this : dc51c1d7e3e173dcab4e0b9ad2be2bbf . why isn't it like the code from provider
[16:48] <h0ss> IndyGunFreak: I will have to boot into Ubuntu to do that.  If you have a list of things for me to check that would probably be best.
[16:48] <G__81> om26er, he is a kernel developer
[16:48] <leohartx> what's your md5 code ?
[16:49] <IndyGunFreak> h0ss, well.. if i recall correctly... 8.10, that package had to be installed, in order for wireless to work. do you not have wired access?
[16:49] <om26er> g_81 he says he is
[16:49] <TheCheeze> is there anything really spectacular about Karmic to upgrade from Jaunty?
[16:49] <om26er> g_81 who knows
[16:49] <h0ss> IndyGunFreak: No I do not.  I am out of country right now and will not be back home for some time.
[16:49] <ctmjr> bostongeek24: you forgot your password?
[16:49] <bostongeek24> yes lol
[16:49] <IndyGunFreak> h0ss, i'm almost positive thats the problem.
[16:49] <bostongeek24> it won't download karmic
[16:50] <bostongeek24> this is the error i get using apt get
[16:50] <DeadmanIncJS> why not just download the torrent then bostongeek24
[16:50] <h0ss> IndyGunFreak: Is there a deb package or something that I can download just incase I dont have it?
[16:50] <Take0n> anyone?
[16:50] <bostongeek24> W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net karmic Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY C18DC20E89617F48
[16:50] <offsense> is the intel graphic problem is fixed in karmic koala????
[16:50] <offsense> is the intel graphic problem is fixed in karmic koala????
[16:51] <Pici> !ppagpg | bostongeek24
[16:51] <pradeep> Every time I mount my other partitions i must always enter the password. How do i avoid it?? In jaunty i had to authenticate only once:-(
[16:51] <om26er>  offsense: much much better than jaunty
[16:51] <polarbear> is there a way when my laptop gets unplugged, it will change brightness and go to powersaver in cpu frequency scaling monitor?
[16:51] <dupondje> offsense: yes
[16:51] <offsense> awesome, thnx
[16:51] <Nalleman> Great distro so far, i run the Netbook remix but it seems like spotify is not working. Pretty sad. Im having a aspire one.
[16:51] <bostongeek24> that didnt tell me anything ubottu
[16:52] <crippler> Hi.  Does UB9.10 force newer grub2 or can you keep the original grub?
[16:52] <om26er> polarbear: when charger cable is disconnected brighness changes to dim automatically
[16:52] <om26er> polarbear: and you cpu usage is on-demand always
[16:52] <bostongeek24> any ideas as to why i can't update to the release?
[16:52] <tmx> i like the coala
[16:52] <joaopinto> crippler, doing an upgrade you can keep grub1, i am not sure about install, i don't think you can choose
[16:52] <Nickos> bostongeek24: from what ?
[16:52] <polarbear> om26er: is there a cfg executed? i want to change it from performance to powersaver and change the brightness manually
[16:53] <om26er> polarbear: for brightness go to power management in preferences and then go to battery
[16:54] <om26er> polarbear: and unclick dim backlight
[16:54] <Azeotrope> could anyone help me with some reverse shell problems? i have have a ssh server behind a NAT a don't own and i want to connect to it...
[16:54] <DeadmanIncJS> !man
[16:54] <dro> whats the best program inside ubuntu to check md5
[16:54] <Altemei> hello, what commands are possible for vinagre (remote desktop viewer). when i start vinagre it should connect to a remote machine und in full screen mode. can anyone help me?
[16:54] <IndyGunFreak> h0ss, i knew there wa ssomething odd w/ that device..  http://www.webdigity.com/index.php/topic,8202.0.Ubuntu+8.10+-+Atheros+AR242x+problems.html
[16:54] <polarbear> om26er: okay i did that. but when it gets unplugged, i want to do "smartdimmer -s 20"
[16:55] <IndyGunFreak> h0ss, the problem is, you need internet access to install the linux-backports-modules
[16:55] <h0ss> IndyGunFreak: Thank you so much!  I will check it out.
[16:55] <llutz> 10.04 out? ;)
[16:55] <Altemei> hello, what commands are possible for vinagre (remote desktop viewer). when i start vinagre it should connect to a remote machine und in full screen mode. can anyone help me?
[16:56] <b1ackcr0w> afternoon all
[16:56] <tmx> cu
[16:56] <IndyGunFreak> h0ss, you might be able to find the .deb file to download somewhere, or.. if you happen to have an ubuntu 8.10 live CD.. that linux-backports .deb, is on the live cd
[16:56] <b1ackcr0w> Ubuntu One web interface seems to be down at the moment?
[16:56] <tmx> i think so
[16:56] <TecnoBrat> b1ackcr0w: I would assume its getting hammered
[16:57] <b1ackcr0w> :)
[16:57] <b1ackcr0w> that sounds likely
[16:57] <b1ackcr0w> i assume nobody else can get in?
[16:57] <h0ss> IndyGunFreak: I have bootable USB drive.  I will check that as well.  Thanks a ton.
[16:57] <Zeikfried> After having my system installed for awhile it has started to slow down on login and logout, is there any way to clean up my system to give it that fresh installation feeling once again?
[16:57] <RPG_Master> If I want to do a fresh install of 9.10, what should I backup besides my home directory?
[16:57] <b1ackcr0w> yeah
[16:58] <IndyGunFreak> h0ss, only prob w/ the bootable usb drive, is you have to restart after making the changes(assuming its not persistant(
[16:58] <tmx> is ubuntu one like a filesharing programm ?
[16:58] <ripps> llutz: the first alpha of 10.04 probably won't be out for a month or 2
[16:58] <b1ackcr0w> i forgot the name of the app zeikfried
[16:58] <joaopinto> Zeikfried, it is most likely related to some service that you have installed meanwhile
[16:58] <b1ackcr0w> wait one
[16:58] <om26er> Zeikfried: install bum
[16:58] <pradeep> how do i install grub 2?
[16:58] <Zeikfried> What is bum?
[16:58] <Nickos> tmx: it's more like a dropbox ..
[16:58] <joaopinto> !grub2 | pradeep
[16:58] <xrdodrx> RPG_Master: Depends on what u want to keep
[16:58] <joaopinto> Zeikfried, it allows you to disable some services from startup
[16:58] <Zeikfried> Besides the guy on the corner that wants change.
[16:58] <froglet> I upgraded to karmic but aptitude now wants to remove packages not supported by canonical; how do I prevent this?
[16:58] <RPG_Master> xrdodrx: My app's configs
[16:59] <Zeikfried> Would bum work for both Ubuntu/Kubuntu?
[16:59] <bobsaccamano> hi..how do i reduce the frequency of the update manager pop up in jaunty?
[16:59] <xrdodrx> RPG_Master: They should mostly be in /home
[16:59] <froglet> also, something removes my entries from /etc/resolv.conf and I want to prevent this
[16:59] <joaopinto> froglet, if they conflict with official packages, you can't prevent them from being removed
[16:59] <froglet> I think it is network manager
[16:59] <h0ss> IndyGunFreak: I will read the artical and mess around with it.  You have been most helpful.
[16:59] <xrdodrx> RPG_Master: In "." directories
[16:59] <bobsaccamano> and is there a way to filter out the relevant updates only..eg i dont want to see any updates related to cups or evolution since i dont use these
[16:59] <bobsaccamano> ?
[17:00] <RPG_Master> xrdodrx: So just backup my home folder and I'll be set?
[17:00] <froglet> joaopinto, gcc?
[17:00] <b1ackcr0w> zeikfried: http://www.getdeb.net/release.php?id=4775  Ubuntu tweak is pretty good
[17:00] <froglet> why would it want to remove gcc?
[17:00] <xrdodrx> RPG_Master: For the majority of apps
[17:00]  * SMiTTY is running through the 9.10 upgrade from the alternate cd now....wish me luck
[17:00] <timdot> gcc is being upgraded
[17:00] <timdot> in 9.10
[17:00] <timdot> so that might be why
[17:00] <froglet> oh but it does not say that  :)
[17:00] <froglet> but thanks
[17:01] <timdot> it says so on the ubuntu 9.10 changelist
[17:01] <vigo> RPG_Master: Pretty much. /home is where all the good stuff is.
[17:01] <froglet> ty
[17:01] <Moonlit> http://kimag.es/share/64852247.jpg < menu issue
[17:01] <xrdodrx> RPG_Master: Make sure you copy the . Directories
[17:02] <RPG_Master> xrdodrx: If I drag and drop the actual home folder it should copy EVERYTHING right?
[17:02] <RPG_Master> . folders and all?
[17:02] <xrdodrx> RPG_Master: Yup
[17:02] <xrdodrx> Or cp in terminal
[17:02] <vigo> !backup
[17:02] <Guest85189> hello
[17:03] <Guest85189> exit
[17:03] <john_saint> hi all does anyone know anything about firestarter? i did ask earlier but got no responce. im new to ubuntu so any help would be greatful.
[17:03] <bobsaccamano> anyone?
[17:03] <xrdodrx> I usually tar my backups too
[17:03] <bobsaccamano> john_saint, the firewall?
[17:03] <RPG_Master> I have  backup tar I made awhile ago... but its old :/
[17:03] <RPG_Master> *a
[17:04] <froglet> it is a front-end for firewalls
[17:04] <RPG_Master> I love "Sweet Leaf" :D
[17:04] <RPG_Master> One of my favorite Black Sabbath songs :D
[17:04] <vigo> bobsaccamano: yes, you can filter or set filters on or for that.
[17:04] <john_saint> yes. im new to ubuntu and im running firestarter but it keeps telling me ive got so many serious attempts or something. are they really that bad and how concerned should i be??
[17:04] <Khodok> http://www.ntv.ru/novosti/178965 - Russian state TV channel reported about Karmic release today!
[17:05] <om26er> tekken 6 got 8.5
[17:05] <om26er> sorry not here
[17:05] <Zeikfried> I have Ubuntu Tweak installed, but it is not fully operational due to Ubuntu being installed inside of Kubuntu.
[17:05] <bobsaccamano> vigo, how do i do that?
[17:05] <RPG_Master> Khodok: Is that like the Russian PBS?
[17:05] <hannes_> hey, when i try to install karmic i get "Compression error, system haltet". Any ideas? :(
[17:05] <zy> how to i enable dynamic type completion in bash anybody?
[17:06] <timdot> Khodok, the russian govt are linux fans, aren't they?
[17:06] <Pici> Zeikfried: We do not support Ubuntu Tweak here, you'll need find support from its developers.
[17:06] <Khodok> RPG_Master: You mean BBC?
[17:06] <vigo> bobsaccamano: How do you update? or which way do you update?
[17:06] <Penol> how do i Activate remote desktop via ssh?
[17:06] <polarbear> anyone familiar with smartdimmer? is there a way to increase/decrease by more than just 1?
[17:06] <RPG_Master> Khodok: Well, the American PBS is like that, but way junkier :P
[17:06] <armence> hey all, I accidentally deleted a file with rm... Any way to recover it?
[17:06] <Pici> !offtopic
[17:06] <Zeikfried> I didnt ask for support on Ubuntu Tweak...
[17:06] <dako3256> trying to update my server to 9.10 but am getting an 'mysql-server-5.1 not autenticated' i tell it to install without the authentication but i get a fail
[17:07] <lilleman> Can anyone help me with my alt-gr not working?
[17:07] <bobsaccamano> vigo, using the graphical update manager..
[17:07] <burntash> when i installed 9.04 i encrypted my home partition, i just installed 9.10 and it mounted my /home partition but in it is just Access-Your-Private-Data.desktop.  how do i recover it and make it work with the new 9.10?
[17:07] <Pici> Zeikfried: It looked like a support question
[17:07] <xrdodrx> armence: Not easily
[17:07] <Zeikfried> My question was.
[17:07] <Zeikfried> After having my system installed for awhile it has started to slow down on login and logout, is there any way to clean up my system to give it that fresh installation feeling once again?
[17:07] <Zeikfried> People recommended using BUM and Ubuntu Tweak.
[17:07] <ABoba> Anyone know why zsync isn't working? It seems that it fails to retrieve the iso?
[17:07] <timdot> armence, you're probably going to need some special software for that
[17:07] <iceroot> !details | ABoba
[17:07] <john_saint> hello...........anyone.........
[17:07] <timdot> armence, it's probably easier for you just to redo whatever it was
[17:07] <Khodok> RPG_Master: I see... This channel was privately owned before, quite a good source of news. It still has this image
[17:07] <iceroot> john_saint: hi
[17:07] <DaGo> hello
[17:08] <ABoba> failed to retrieve from ubuntu-9.10-netbook-remix-i386.iso
[17:08] <ABoba> Aborting, download available in ubuntu-9.10-netbook-remix-i386.iso.part
[17:08] <armence> timdot, thanks
[17:08] <Pici> Khodok, Lets keep it on topic here, chat is in #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:08] <ABoba> after typing in the standard zsync command
[17:08] <om26er> ABoba: why would you use firefox to download
[17:08] <Khodok> RPG_Master: I just thought some of Canonical's PR guys should know that
[17:08] <timdot> armence, in future, perhaps look into creating a "safe" rm - where things are backed up for a few days before being deleted, or a prompt or something
[17:08] <RoyK> something tells me one or two users around in this country (.no) is updating their machines. I get a throughput of ~50-100kB/s and I'm on a 100Mbps link
[17:08] <froglet> burntash, did you do a clean install or upgrade?
[17:08] <vigo> bobsaccamano: Ok, that is like a frontend to Synaptic which is a GUI frontend to the Terminal. the Filters , or show me this and that can be set in Synaptic.
[17:08] <Moonlit> I have a problem with menus in gnome, I'm running Ubuntu version 9.10, when I try to turn off icons in menus, I get the following output: http://kimag.es/share/64852247.jpg but I expected it to turn off icons.
[17:08] <ABoba> om26er: I'm using terminal to update my RC isos, not firefox
[17:08] <om26er> ABoba: ok
[17:09] <froglet> burntash, I had the same problem when I did a clean install but not with upgrade
[17:09] <john_saint> im new to ubuntu and i got a concern with firestarter. i keep getting serious attempts or something and it shows me the ips in red. are these ips folks trying to gain acess to my pc or what?? and what can i do to hide my pc. please help!!
[17:09] <xrdodrx> armence:http://www.ehow.com/how_2064953_recover-deleted-files-linux.html
[17:09] <ABoba> iceroot: any ideas?
[17:09] <iceroot> ABoba: wget :)
[17:09] <burntash> froglet: clean install, i just set the / partition to be formatted and to mount the /home to /home.  and it installed.  first bootup i go to login and i get the cannot access ICEauthority and such.  probably because the /home partition is encrypted
[17:09] <armence> xrdodrx: It's ok, I have an old version from which I can easily fix things
[17:09] <tomvolek> HI all:  has the 64 bit of 9.10 been released also ?   i am looking on ubuntu.com and dont see it
[17:09] <bostongeek24> how do i burn an iso image to a dvd?
[17:09] <preecher> after updating to 9.10 from 9.04 i lost 1 or 2 programs--i can probably re-dload just wondering if this is normal
[17:10] <iceroot> tomvolek: yes
[17:10] <xrdodrx> armence: Oh, ok :)
[17:10] <bostongeek24> what program should i use
[17:10] <scatterp> hi can any one tell me where killall5 is called during shutdown ?
[17:10] <tomvolek> iceroot where is it ?
[17:10] <Penol> how do i Activate remote desktop via ssh?
[17:10] <froglet> burntash, I don't know how to recover from it, I just did a complete reinstall and formatted /home
[17:10] <burntash> froglet: by the looks of "df -h" my data is still in tact its just /home is encrypted and i dunno how to have it setup to work with 9.10
[17:10] <llutz> bostongeek24: growisofs --dvd-compat -Z /dev/sr0=your.iso
[17:10] <iceroot> !download | tomvolek
[17:10] <timdot> john_saint, don't worry about it - it's most likely people who run automated scanners looking for insecure (windows) servers. i, and many others, get entries in log files of attacks all the time
[17:10] <froglet> burntash, yes it is still there, your data
[17:10] <timdot> john_saint, don't worry :)
[17:10] <froglet> I just don't know how to recover it
[17:10] <tomvolek> tx iceroot
[17:11] <iceroot> tomvolek: http://noncdn.releases.ubuntu.com//releases/9.10/
[17:11] <satya> how can i load yahoo messenger in ubuntu 9.04
[17:11] <froglet> burntash, did you try the ecrypt* command?
[17:11] <Penol> !torrents
[17:11] <xrdodrx> satya: Pidgin
[17:11] <bonez46> yesterday I ran 'update-manager -d' to upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10 rc.. will the same work now to go from rc to desktop?
[17:11] <john_saint> thanks timdot. its cus its the first time ive used ubuntu and was just worried thats all. i finally got rid of windows and opted for ubuntu..............hope i made the right choice!
[17:11] <joaopinto> !final | bonez46
[17:11] <xrdodrx> !pidgin | satya
[17:11] <timdot> john_saint, you definitely have, well done for ditching the old dog :p
[17:11] <burntash> froglet: doesnt le me run ecrypt
[17:12] <timdot> john_saint, i did the same about 6 months back - haven't looked back once
[17:12] <raph_ael> hi, i've upgrade to 9.10 but still have no sound with my hdaintel on an imac
[17:12] <bobsaccamano> vigo, thanks..will do that...btw does synaptic have a config file of some sort?
[17:12] <froglet> ecryptfs-umount-private does not work?
[17:12] <satya> ty frnds:)
[17:12] <bonez46> joaopinto: thanks..
[17:12] <xisco> using root, how can I forbid a user to change the permissions of his home folder ?
[17:12] <RobLoach> http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/910features doesn't mention pimpage of Compiz.
[17:12] <joaopinto> xisco, you can't, unless you change it's ownership
[17:12] <dury> does it work in 64 bit jaunty http://kooka.kde.org/download/
[17:12] <john_saint> cheers timdot. its good to know theres real people willing to help out instead of that big corporation that dont care as long as they get their lots of money from licences! thanks again!
[17:12] <timdot> john_saint, hehe :)
[17:13] <Tesssa> question just downloaded and burned to cd ubuntu 9.10 get as far as partition manager ans that doesnt work any ides
[17:13] <polarbear> in empathy, whenever my type goes more than the box it stretches the whole window. how can i prevent this?
[17:13] <dury> or is it for i386 only?
[17:13] <froglet> Tesssa, have you tried the alternate installer?
[17:13] <burntash> froglet: nope it says that command is not found and when i try to apt-get install ecryptfs-utils that its not available and referred to by another package
[17:14] <timdot> Tesssa, do you have windows on another partition?
[17:14] <Tesssa> no  i havent do i have to download that and burn it to cd
[17:14] <froglet> burntash, maybe someone in ubuntu+1 will know
[17:14] <vigo> bobsaccamano: Yes it does, and this site shows you how to disable the Notification. It still runs, you just do not see it. http://lifehacker.com/5295449/disable-ubuntus-annoying-update-manager-popup  , It is very important to keep the system updated and the latest security patches installed, and allways make a backup.
[17:14] <froglet> #ubuntu+1
[17:14] <froglet> channel
[17:14] <thatdude> Fastest well in killin X Server?
[17:14] <timdot> Tesssa, if you have windows on another partition then you MUST shut down windows *properly*, else the partition manager won't work properly - have you done that?
[17:15] <burntash> i kinda regret doing that encrypt /home option in the 9.04 install now lol
[17:15] <bonez46> why are packages 'kept back'? On running apt-get dist-upgrade and see that   devede samba4-dev  are both held back...
[17:15] <iceroot> thatdude: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[17:15] <burntash> i thought id be able to recover it on the fly with my passphrase it gave me
[17:15] <Tesssa> i havent just xubuntu  timdot
[17:15] <thatdude> iceroot: Does not work in 9.10
[17:15] <timdot> Tesssa, oh okay then
[17:15] <froglet> burntash, I think the proper way to do it is to decrypt the partition before the clean install
[17:15] <vigo> !karmic
[17:15] <iceroot> thatdude: why?
[17:15] <bostongeek24> is there a gui program that will burn iso images to a disk
[17:15] <froglet> but I never thought of it
[17:15] <Tesssa> and that does the same with xubuntu 9.10
[17:16] <bostongeek24> like imgburn on windows?
[17:16] <xisco> joaopinto, so should i change it from the user itself ?
[17:16] <iceroot> bostongeek24: brasero, k3b
[17:16] <joaopinto> !burn | bostongeek24
[17:16] <bobsaccamano> vigo, thanks again..that was a useful link...its just that i dont want the update manager hogging resources - id prefer setting up a cronjob to do it everyday
[17:16] <joaopinto> xisco, yes, assuming the user does not need to write to is own dir :)
[17:16] <froglet> burntash, did you make sure ecryptfs is installed?
[17:17] <burntash> froglet: i dont htink its installed on 9.10 by default
[17:17] <burntash> cause i dont have it on here
[17:17] <xisco> joaopinto, but i want the user can write, execute and read
[17:17] <joaopinto> xisco, if it's a regular desktop user, it will require owernship/write privilegs to it's home dir
[17:17] <froglet> burntash: can you install it and then modprobe dm_crypt  ?
[17:17] <platypus03> i imagine the servers are getting slammed right now but is anyone else having trouble connecting to do updates?
[17:17] <thatdude> iceroot: I was doing the wrong command. Thanks!
[17:17] <froglet> remember you have to modprobe dm_crypt
[17:18] <joaopinto> xisco, so, he is also allowed to change permissions, that is included with the "write" privilege
[17:18] <iceroot> thatdude: ok
[17:18] <nascentmind> hi. I had upgraded to the rc release of ubuntu. there are no other steps now other than a apt-get update and a apt-get -d dist-upgrade right?
[17:18] <Jeruvy> platypus03: its slow going for sure.  patience is highly required atm :)
[17:18] <froglet> oh wait dm_crypt is something else
[17:18] <ChogyDan> platypus03: nope.  you should use a mirror
[17:18] <froglet> forget I said that
[17:18] <fausto> Hi guys, my karmic won't boot (crashes on usplash) unless I remove splash from the boot options. Anyone knows what is the right way of editing grub configurations?
[17:18] <platypus03> Jeruvy, well for one thing, clicking 'upgrade' freezes the update manager completely
[17:18] <joaopinto> nascentmind, right
[17:18] <ChogyDan> nascentmind: don't use -d,  that is for betas, not releases
[17:19] <joaopinto> !grub2 | fausto
[17:19] <nascentmind> ChogyDan, -d is for download only.
[17:19] <joaopinto> fausto, and please make sure you file a bug report
[17:19] <platypus03> Jeruvy, on my other box, it wont even present an upgrade option, both apt and update-manager --dist-upgrade fail saying I'm already at the latest version
[17:19] <rizzuh> Congratulations for a new version! *waits for upgrade to complete*
[17:19] <ChogyDan> nascentmind: o yeah, nvm
[17:19] <froglet> burntash, try to install the ecryptfs package(s)
[17:19] <timdot> Tesssa, no, sorry :/
[17:19] <fausto> joaopinto: I filed a bug report some time ago, but it is been ignored
[17:19] <platypus03> i was reasoning that since its release day the problems are just related to that
[17:19] <isaac__> HELP!
[17:20] <ripps> !ask | isaac__
[17:20] <joaopinto> fausto, somethings have been fixed on usplase meanshile, check your bug report again :P
[17:20] <burntash> hm
[17:20] <platypus03> but i've only actually gotten a dist upgrade to work once, most times its some ridiculous problem that I have to fix
[17:20] <isaac__> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1304636
[17:20] <isaac__> right there
[17:20] <isaac__> my problem
[17:20] <joaopinto> fausto, let me know if you still remember the bug nr
[17:21] <isaac__> i'm freaking out!
[17:21] <fausto> joaopinto: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/usplash/+bug/380347
[17:21] <bonez46> is grub2 new? a natural evolution from grub(1)?
[17:21] <vigo> bobsaccamano: Yes, I understand. You can disable it, unadvised, and run it at startup , but then you are back where you started, I suggest that disabling the GUI notification and let it run. That is why I posted that link.
[17:21] <t0rc> Hi, what is the game shown here (http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/910features) ?
[17:21] <Kartagis> !grub
[17:21] <Kartagis> !dualboot
[17:21] <platypus03> ChogyDan, it doesn't seem to be an issue of mirrors, more that the process itself seems to be broken
[17:22] <frostburn> i like how upgrading from iso makes me download from the internet anyway -.-
[17:22] <iceroot> frostburn: you have to download the iso :)
[17:22] <ljuwaidah> does 9.10 support fingerprint login out of the box?
[17:22] <Kartagis> where can I find information about linux/linux dual boot?
[17:22] <Jeruvy> platypus03: it could be it cannot update sources so its hanging up
[17:22] <iceroot> !grub | Kartagis
[17:22] <platypus03> Kartagis, google
[17:22] <frostburn> iceroot, i did, mounted it as a cd, and then still asks to download 1837 packages
[17:22] <iceroot> !google | platypus03
[17:22] <hexa-> Results for | platypus03 on Google:
[17:22] <hexa-> --
[17:22] <ripps> isaac__: okay, if your having a problem your sound, it be a better idea to file a bug report. `ubuntu-bug pulseaudio` from a terminal
[17:23] <iceroot> frostburn: the final or rc?
[17:23] <platypus03> Jeruvy, it didn't have an issue upgrading packages for Jaunty
[17:23] <platypus03> only happens with the dist-upgrade
[17:23] <thansen_> how do I get the grub2 menu to come up so I can try to boot in 'safe mode'?
[17:23] <burntash> froglet: do you think itd be on the cd?
[17:23] <burntash> froglet: cause apt-get doesnt seem to get it
[17:23] <ChogyDan> thansen_: maybe hit shift?
[17:23] <frostburn> iceroot, the one i just dowloaded off the torrent mirror 10 min ago
[17:23] <Moonlit> which method of installing apps am I supposed to use? what with Software Centre, Synaptic, Add/Remove, apt, I'm a little confused
[17:23] <burntash> froglet: nevermind i got it
[17:23] <iceroot> frostburn: hm
[17:23] <Jeruvy> platypus03: then thats probably it, dist-upgrade updates the sources first, regular updates don't have to.
[17:23] <t0rc> Hi, what is the game shown here (http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/910features) ?
[17:24] <thansen_> ChogyDan: no go
[17:24] <iceroot> frostburn: so its using the repo instead of the cd for getting the packages
[17:24] <Ramunas> Moonlit: whicherver you want I assume
[17:24] <Pici> Moonlit: Whatever you want.  They all use the same repositories,
[17:24] <platypus03> Jeruvy, i have another host that can't even get the upgrade-dist option
[17:24] <rizzuh> #ubuntu-ro
[17:24] <iceroot> frostburn: disable the repo maybe or disable lan for that moment
[17:24] <rizzuh> damn /join :(
[17:24] <Guest1> I thought this channel was terminated upon release of 9.10
[17:24] <Moonlit> Ramunas / Pici - but... isn't it a little confusing for new guys?
[17:24] <Pici> Guest1: This is #ubuntu
[17:24] <TecnoBrat> Hmmm this mirrors page is wacky https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors .. it'll say mirros are up-to-date, but they were last verified like 3 days ago
[17:24] <TecnoBrat> seems a little useless to me
[17:24] <Guest1> Oh I'm sorry
[17:24] <Guest1> I was not aware
[17:25] <frostburn> iceroot, shrug, it's ok, can't take this offline during work anyway, i'll just download it from a repo... it's just slower heh
[17:25] <Guest1> Good bye
[17:25] <ripps> Guest1: #ubuntu+1 redirects to #ubuntu now
[17:25] <iceroot> Moonlit: no, that is the power of linux, that you can do it like you want
[17:25] <Jeruvy> platypus03: I'm on #5, no problems outside of a few timeouts here.
[17:25] <iceroot> frostburn: yeah
[17:25] <Moonlit> iceroot - well, sure, but too much choice can be bewildering
[17:25] <Pici> Moonlit: Its all about choice.
[17:25] <iceroot> Moonlit: of course
[17:25] <ewb> karmic crashes
[17:25] <iceroot> Moonlit: there are apt-get and aptitude too
[17:25] <platypus03> Jeruvy, I'm not claiming it's completely broken but there seem to be issues for quite a few users and I'm trying to deduce why
[17:25] <Tomas__> but whats the point of having 3 diff choices
[17:25] <lordnoid> does everyone have a Capabilities Mismatch on Ubuntu One?
[17:25] <iceroot> Moonlit: we prefer apt-get (command line)
[17:26] <Moonlit> I see
[17:26] <ripps> lordnoid: I did, a version of ubuntuone in proposed fixed it
[17:26] <lordnoid> ripps, okay ill just enable proposed
[17:26] <burntash> froglet: now that i have ecryptfs-utils installed, what do i do
[17:26] <Moonlit> speaking of choice, what's the deal with this? http://kimag.es/share/64852247.jpg
[17:26] <gobberpooper> hey
[17:27] <gobberpooper> um question
[17:27] <knarfix> G__81: it is cool. try live cd first to see if everything works
[17:27] <gobberpooper> are there any common upgrading problems?
[17:27] <ljuwaidah> later
[17:27] <bastid_raZor> Moonlit: it looks like a horrible theme..
[17:27] <ljuwaidah> God bless
[17:27] <platypus03> gobberpooper, seems to be, check the forums
[17:27] <Jeruvy> platypus03: I understand.  perhaps its a local issue, it's still early here I expect the .ca servers to get even busier later.
[17:27] <linked1> hi, i have an intel hda sound card, and since a recent kernel upgrade, my sound doesn't work. i tried recompiling alsa, but i still get "unable to open audio device for playback"
[17:27] <platypus03> gobberpooper, I cant get either of my hosts to upgrade
[17:27] <gobberpooper> really?
[17:28] <Windcape> hi, how to change the boot order in grub?
[17:28] <Moonlit> bastid_raZor - well, that was my choice, and it's all stuff that was in 9.10 as I got it, but my problem is with the icons
[17:28] <ChogyDan> Windcape: what kind of change do you want?
[17:28] <gobberpooper> okay one sec ill check it out
[17:28] <bastid_raZor> Moonlit: looks like you unchecked the box that would give you icons
[17:28] <Tomas__> lmao
[17:28] <mac9416> Hello, a friend of mine is trying to upgrade to 9.10 and is getting "Could not download release notes. Please check your internet connection" from Update Manager. It seems the servers are too busy. Can he change to some local mirrors and get it to work?
[17:28] <Tomas__> but he has icons
[17:28] <rumpel_> hi where are the default ubuntu background images located?
[17:28] <Moonlit> exactly Tomas__
[17:29] <Tomas__> funny shit :P
[17:29] <Windcape> ChogyDan I want to change the boot order. You know, change which system it boots up on as the default one.
[17:29] <gobberpooper> windcape
[17:29] <ChogyDan> mac9416: have you tried the gui dialog in Software Sources
[17:29] <NaviRetlav> hi , Who know how to change contrast and colors in monitor , without ati drivers ? There is any tool for it ?
[17:29] <ripps> linked1: sound is difficult to diagnose and fix, try filing a bug by `ubuntu-bug linux-sound-base` from a terminal, and filing a bug report. Maybe you'll find another bug with your problem with a possible fix.
[17:29] <Redy> а русские тут есть??
[17:29] <Moonlit> it'd be more funny if I could actually make it work, mind you, Tomas__
[17:29] <gobberpooper> you have to do it through a livecd to change the gryb boot order
[17:29] <fausto> If I suspect a bug is a duplicate on launchpad should I comment on it with my suspicion and a link to the other bug?
[17:29] <MenZa> !ru | Redy
[17:29] <mac9416> ChogyDan, and in there change the mirror? Think that would help?
[17:29] <iceroot> gobberpooper: of course not
[17:29] <iceroot> gobberpooper: no need of a live-cd
[17:29] <Redy> ерутл
[17:29] <ChogyDan> mac9416: works for me
[17:29] <gobberpooper> for grub?
[17:29] <linked1> ripps: thanks
[17:30] <Redy> thenk
[17:30] <mac9416> ChogyDan, I have already upgraded, this is a friend of mine. So I can't try it.
[17:30] <iceroot> gobberpooper: yes
[17:30] <MenZa> Redy: /join #ubuntu-ru
[17:30] <mac9416> ChogyDan, OK, I will suggest it. Thanks much.
[17:30] <gobberpooper> idk i usually go onto the livecd in case there are any problems
[17:30] <Windcape> I strongly doubt the livecd got any software on it that I can't install or have installed already.
[17:30] <meganerd> !de | meganerd
[17:30] <timdot> is there a backup facility built in to thunderbird?
[17:30] <gobberpooper> you don't need to install anything
[17:30] <Windcape> and the problem is 9.10 is using grub2, so it's not so simple was it was in 9.04
[17:30] <ChogyDan> Windcape: try setting the grub_default option to =saved instead of =0
[17:31] <Windcape> ChogyDan where, what and how?
[17:31] <om26er> gobberpooper: what kind of name is that
[17:31] <meganerd> timdot: There is an addon that you can use to backup mail
[17:31] <ChogyDan> !grub2 | Windcape
[17:31] <gobberpooper> idk ive been using it since 1st grade so it just stuck
[17:31] <AnirbanHazra> How to check whether php gd library is installed on my Ubuntu or not ?
[17:31] <timdot> thanks meganerd, i'll just copy from the directory though.. might as well
[17:31] <lado> Hey there
[17:31] <jimqode> flash videos are quite choppy in karmic for me. even when not in fullscreen mode
[17:32] <DekaPink> Bit of a stupid question-- But will it still work if I burn the Karmic iso to a DVD instead of a CD? I don't have any CDs at the moment >.>
[17:32] <thedoor> hi guys
[17:32] <MenZa> Sure, DekaPink :)
[17:32] <thedoor> i have the alpha version of karmic
[17:32] <KurtKraut> DekaPink, yes, it will work.
[17:32] <MenZa> DekaPink: I resort to doing that all the time - you're fine.
[17:32] <meganerd> timdot: that is what I do, my .thunderbird gets backed up regularly
[17:32] <ripps> DekaPink: yes, I do it all the time a dvd-rw of mine
[17:32] <LjL> !final | thedoor
[17:32] <DekaPink> Thanks. :D
[17:32] <thedoor> how can i update my alpha karmic to the final karmic?
[17:32] <Kartagis> !grub
[17:32] <thedoor> LjL, tks :D
[17:32] <joaopinto> !final | thedoor
[17:32] <Windcape> ChogyDan nothing on that list tells how you CHANGE the grub order
[17:32] <thedoor> LOL :)
[17:32] <timdot> meganerd, heh.. yeah.. i vow to set a script up to do regular backups from now on :p
[17:32] <jethro877> hows it going
[17:32] <Noble> Uhm, how do i change GDM theme in 9.10?
[17:32] <crohakon> How can I find what network interface I am using in console
[17:32] <jethro877> gfg
[17:33] <jethro877> ]gfgg
[17:33] <jethro877> fgfgfg
[17:33] <jethro877> sss
[17:33] <jethro877> ss
[17:33] <FloodBot1> jethro877: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:33] <jethro877> ss
[17:33] <Kartagis> ifconfig
[17:33] <platypus03> crohakon, ifconfig
[17:33] <ripps> Noble: can't, sinde gdm has been rewritten, nobody has gotten around to writing a theme changing app yet
[17:33] <Kartagis> crohakon, ifconfig
[17:33] <frostburn> iceroot, found the issue, the iso i have is for amd64 alternate instead of desktop, redownloading the iso now
[17:33] <Noble> ripps: :(
[17:33] <AnirbanHazra> How to check whether php gd library is installed on my Ubuntu or not ?
[17:33] <Windcape> and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/ChangeDefaultOS is outdated
[17:33] <joaopinto> Noble, the new gdm is not configurable, you would need to edit /var/lib/gdm/.gconf.defaults/%gconf-tree.xml
[17:33] <Whitor> Hi, If I install Ubuntustudio-graphics via synaptic ... Its really just a meta package containing a list of other software... If I uninstall ubuntustudio-graphics... It does not uninstall all of the software it was responsible for installing... It just uninstalls the very small meta package... is there anyway to get synaptic (or anything else) to uninstall all software referenced in the parent package ?
[17:33] <jimqode> Is this channel for 9.10 now? Or should I go to +1?
[17:33] <ewb> i installed karmic and now i can't boot into windows 7
[17:34] <ripps> Noble: there might be some method to do it manually, but I wouldn't know where to begin
[17:34] <ewb> what should i do
[17:34] <Noble> joaopinto: ty
[17:34] <MenZa> AnirbanHazra: apt-cache policy php5-gd
[17:34] <MenZa> ewb: What problem are you having?
[17:34] <thedoor> LjL, it says tats noting to update :(
[17:34] <crohakon> Okay, i am installing ddclient and it is asking for the name of the interface device... do I just put eth0 one and call it good, or do I need to do more?
[17:34] <LjL> thedoor: why are you sad then?
[17:34] <ripps> ewb: try installing os-prober and then running update-grub
[17:34] <ctmjr> jimqode: this is the channel
[17:35] <thedoor> LjL, the update comand return that's no packages to update
[17:35] <meganerd> timdot: I keep my important data on a software RAID, which is then copied to a local NAS (Dlink 323), as well as rsync.net
[17:35] <LjL> thedoor: then you're already running the final version. what's the problem?
[17:35] <ctmjr> jimqode: besides they locked #ubuntu+1 to invite only
[17:35] <jimqode> Ok then, here is the question. After 9.10 upgrade flash videos play choppy. Xorg uses Most of my cpu time when a flash video is running. What may be the cause?
[17:35] <burntash> when i try to run "ecrypt-mount-private" i get "ERROR: Encrypted private directory is not setup properly"
[17:35] <timdot> meganerd, cool :) i've got a backup server that currently isn't really used for backups :p
[17:35] <thedoor> LjL, i don't think so ¬¬ how can i see if im runing the final version?
[17:35] <Guest86056> Hi, is it just me or is desktop response really bad in Karmic vs Jaunty when under CPU load ? Compilations are killing my desktop, and I'm back to the old days of renicing X to get acceptable response... :(
[17:35] <joaopinto> thedoor, lsb_release -a
[17:35] <Fishie> thedoor, didyou upgrade to 9.10 already?
[17:35] <ripps> thedoor: what does `lsb_release -a`
[17:36] <ripps> hivemind
[17:36] <LjL> thedoor: by making sure that "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" reports that there are no packages to update.
[17:36] <meganerd> timdot: for documents you may want to look at versioning as well.
[17:36] <timdot> meganerd, heh.. i've tried to get into using subversion a number of times now :p
[17:36] <thansen_> what's the 'correct' way to enable nouveau?
[17:36] <thedoor> LjL, No LSB modules are available.
[17:36] <ewb> it boots into linux and i cant choose windows7
[17:36] <thedoor> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
[17:36] <thedoor> Description:	Ubuntu 9.10
[17:36] <thedoor> Release:	9.10
[17:36] <thedoor> Codename:	karmic
[17:36] <FloodBot1> thedoor: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:36] <timdot> meganerd, it's just doesn't feel right.. :)
[17:36] <ewb> i need to work on my spreadsheets, this sucks :(
[17:36] <thedoor> :(
[17:36] <platypus03> LjL, not true, I have a Jaunty box that returns 0 packages to update or upgrade, hence why I'm here
[17:36] <ripps> thedoor: your already using the lasest version of karmic
[17:37] <LjL> thedoor: i wasn't the one asking you for the output of that in the first place
[17:37] <LjL> platypus03: it's only true if you're *already* running a version of Karmic. scroll back and you'l see that is th case with thedoor.
[17:37] <joaopinto> thedoor, yes, you are running the final version
[17:37] <t0rc> Hi, what is the game shown here ( http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/910features ) ?
[17:37] <pro-rsoft> I'm running karmic, and want to compile something that can be used with a very old version of libc. Do I really need to downgrade to an old version of ubuntu then, or is there something like a compat-libc or so?
[17:37] <^mNotIntelligent> how many are using the today's release of Ubuntu 9.10?
[17:37] <yoavsbg17> Hi, somebody can help me, i have a little problem. when i see a movie at utube the image is in delay between the sound
[17:37] <meganerd> I was using subversion, but it gets slow and unwieldy with gigs of photos and movies.  I am still looking for a good solution here (currently settled on rdiff-backup, looking at git)
[17:37] <joaopinto> t0h, maybe open arena
[17:37] <thedoor> ldon't get angry :(
[17:38] <^mNotIntelligent> t0rc, even I could not see any
[17:38] <Ramunas> t0rc: nexuiz, I think
[17:38] <thedoor> LjL,  don't get angry :(
[17:38] <Windcape> great, amazing, why the hell did they change to Grub 2
[17:38] <pro-rsoft> ^mNotIntelligent, been using karmic for a few weeks already
[17:38] <SikEnCide> sooo i was running the RC and there were no updates today.. is something wrong ?
[17:38] <t0rc> t0rc, scroll down a little
[17:38] <yoavsbg17> Please help me at private :)
[17:38] <thedoor> LjL, tks , i will leave now :)
[17:38] <Windcape> what's the idea with a boot loader that's not configurable
[17:38] <bigjocker> yoavsbg17, which flash plugin are you using?
[17:38] <MenZa> Windcape: Give it time.
[17:38] <leachim6> yo
[17:38] <bigjocker> yoavsbg17, adobe's or gnash?
[17:38] <kahen> i want to reinstall. i should get all custom configuration files and firefox history with me if i tar up /home and /etc, right?
[17:38] <t0rc> ^mNotIntelligent, scroll down a little
[17:38] <joaopinto> Wincerind, because grub1 is no longer maintaned, and grub2 provides new features like booting from ISOs, NFS, encrypted boots, etc
[17:38] <Windcape> MenZa give what time?
[17:38] <joaopinto> erm was for Windcape
[17:38] <yoavsbg17> bigjocker how am i can check it ?
[17:38] <t0rc> joaopinto, Ramunas thanks
[17:39] <^mNotIntelligent> ubuntu one is availble for all in ubuntu 9.10, right? basic release of 2GB pkg, I mean
[17:39] <yoavsbg17> i uses at mozila
[17:39] <theclaw> hi
[17:39] <yoavsbg17> in*
[17:39] <Windcape> joaopinto but they didn't think people would EVER want to change the boot order?
[17:39] <^mNotIntelligent> pro-rsoft, i meant not the alpha/beta, the final release ...gold one
[17:39] <ripps> ^mNotIntelligent: yes
[17:39] <bigjocker> yoavsbg17, in mozilla enter as URL: about:plugins
[17:39] <jsdfd> when ever i upgrade i get an error Errors were encountered while processing:postgresql-8.3
[17:39] <pro-rsoft> ^mNotIntelligent, I ran software update today, yes :-)
[17:39] <jsdfd> how can i remove the warning
[17:39] <joaopinto> Windcape, you can, but don't ask me how, I didn't needed
[17:39] <t0rc> any way to see my current upload/download from terminal?
[17:39] <penyshocker> yeah
[17:40] <SikEnCide> sooo i was running the RC and there were no updates today.. is something wrong ?
[17:40] <penyshocker> nettop
[17:40] <^mNotIntelligent> pro-rsoft, yep fine
[17:40] <Windcape> ah, so it's the usual GNU thing. No documentation, hurray
[17:40] <joaopinto> The order of the /etc/grub.d/ numbering is probably helpful for the grub menu order building
[17:40] <yoavsbg17> bigjocker : can you help me in the private chat ?
[17:40] <ripps> SikEnCide: that's okay, your already running final
[17:40] <homerslice75> Is there a way to install the latest firefox 3.5.4
[17:40] <SikEnCide> arrite ripps
[17:40] <drdre> Xbmc on ubuntu 9.10 how?
[17:40] <smoser> anyone have an idea why k3b tells me I dont have any cdrw/dvdrw devices ? i have karmic ubuntu (not kubuntu) and apt-get install k3b.  brasero works fine.
[17:40] <Windcape> joaopinto and? that's irrelevant as you can't rename those files
[17:40] <ekianjo> hello everyone - i have a question about the alternate cd i just downladed via torrent - can i use that alternate CD to update from a JAUNTY 9.04 NETBOOK REMIX install?
[17:40] <mrwes> Anyone found a work around or fix for Handbrake under Karmic?
[17:41] <theclaw> I upgraded to karmic, but my bootscreen is just a black&white ubuntu logo, and idea?
[17:41] <joaopinto> Wincerind, uh ? you can't ???
[17:41] <Windcape> and *sigh* all articles say /etc/default/grub , but that's funny enough, not existant on Ubuntu
[17:41] <mrwes> theclaw, that's the default splash now
[17:41] <^mNotIntelligent> ripps, thanks dude
[17:41] <ripps> yw
[17:41] <Grilles> hi zusammen
[17:41] <joaopinto> Windcape,
[17:41] <theclaw> mrwes: what's with that new "better" splash?
[17:41] <vigo> smoser: Could be a corrupted install, try removing and placing back in?
[17:41] <SikEnCide> how do i get rid of the splash in karmic.. i liek to see what its doing
[17:41] <zeroXten> is it out yet?
[17:41] <joaopinto> Windcape, if you don't have /etc/default/grub, you don't have grub2 installed
[17:41] <bigjocker> yoavsbg17, you can use also un the console: aptitude search flashplugin-nonfree
[17:41] <leachim6> so...
[17:41] <leachim6> where can I get a list of the new features in karmic?
[17:42] <mrwes> theclaw, nod, and you can change the theme now either :(
[17:42] <Windcape> I clearly do, according to grub itself
[17:42] <ekianjo>  i have a question about the alternate cd i just downladed via torrent - can i use that alternate CD to update from a JAUNTY 9.04 NETBOOK REMIX install?
[17:42] <Windcape> since the /boot/grub/menu.lst isn't there
[17:42] <KrisDouglas> !network manager
[17:42] <joaopinto> Windcape, I do have /etc/default/grub
[17:42] <mrwes> Anyone on the Handbrake issue?
[17:42] <ctmjr> zeroXten: yes
[17:42] <theclaw> mrwes: you mean there is no new splash?
[17:42] <ripps> leachim6: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/910
[17:42] <leachim6> ripps, thanks
[17:42] <Windcape> oh great, it's available though the filesystem, just not the stupid terminal autocomplete shit
[17:42] <zeroXten> ahh sweet
[17:42] <zeroXten> thanks ctmjr
[17:42] <mrwes> theclaw, you can't apply gdm themes now either
[17:43] <joaopinto> !language | Windcape
[17:43] <bigjocker> yoavsbg17, you can use also un the console: aptitude search flashplugin-nonfree
[17:43] <ekianjo> sorry to bother but can someone answer a simple question here if you have a few mins ?
[17:43] <Ramunas> ekianjo: just ask
[17:43] <Windcape> why make tools like this "run 'update-grub' afterwards"
[17:43] <Penol> Who here thinks that http://flx.me/xbmscript/  can be run on ubuntu 9.10 ?
[17:43] <theclaw> mrwes: do you mean there is only *one* bootscreen, the black/white one?
[17:43] <Windcape> why didn't they just code a GUI tool for the purpose, who does so automatically upon save, with included error checking
[17:43] <mrwes> !ask | ekianjo
[17:43] <ekianjo> Ramunas -> about the alternate cd i just downladed via torrent - can i use that alternate CD to update from a JAUNTY 9.04 NETBOOK REMIX install?
[17:43] <Windcape> like gaaaaah
[17:44] <mrwes> theclaw, far as I know, yes.
[17:44]  * zeeble hangs his head
[17:44] <theclaw> I can't believe that's true
[17:44] <knarfix> has anyone tried karmic koala on a dell latitude c610?
[17:44] <Ramunas> ekianjo: ah, well, I think you can, but don't trust me
[17:44] <RobLikesBrunch> What's the absolute best, most fail-free method of installing flash for x64 Ubuntu?
[17:44] <joaopinto> Windcape, if you have free time and the skills, feel free to do it, help first, complain later
[17:44] <ekianjo> Thanks Ramunas, can anyone else confirm : about the alternate cd i just downladed via torrent - can i use that alternate CD to update from a JAUNTY 9.04 NETBOOK REMIX install?
[17:44] <theclaw> mrwes: I don't think you're right there. It should look like http://www.heise.de/open/artikel/Die-Neuerungen-in-Ubuntu-9-10-845450.html?view=zoom;zoom=1
[17:45] <vigo> joaopinto: Thank you.
[17:45] <theclaw> do I need grub2 for that?
[17:45] <Windcape> why is /etc/default/grub read-only?
[17:45] <joaopinto> Windcape, to protect if from accidental changes
[17:45] <mrwes> theclaw, that's what mine looks like
[17:45] <ChogyDan> Windcape: it should just need root privileges I think
[17:46] <Windcape> and I grant them how? the context menu don't have any option for such
[17:46] <RobLikesBrunch> What's the best method of installing flash for x64 9.10?
[17:46] <theclaw> mrwes: but I said it's a black&white ubuntu logo, that's *not* black&white!
[17:46] <Zeikfried> Can anyone tell me what i would have to do to get my gaming pad installed and operational? This is what i am using. http://www.p4c.philips.com/cgi-bin/dcbint/cpindex.pl?scy=US&slg=AEN&cat=PC_ACCESSORIES_CA&sct=MISCELLANEOUS_PC_ACCESSORIES_SU&session=20081210075254_24.27.184.210&grp=PC_PRODUCTS_GR&ctn=SGC2909/27&mid=Link_Software&hlt=Link_Software
[17:46] <ekianjo> ChogyDan, Jaopinto, anyone can confirm if I can upgrade a Jaunty netbook remix with the alternate cd from Karmic ?
[17:46] <joaopinto> !sudo | Windcape
[17:46] <ChogyDan> Windcape: gkdu gedit
[17:46] <gdb> Just a comment, but this new installer for 9.10 is *very very* nice, very slick. Kudos to the folks that put it together.
[17:46] <Dr_Cox> >	Hi all. I'd like to set up an old pc as an ubuntu server. Purpose would be a central storage spot for music and movies. I have a mac and a pc that would be connecting.  I have experience with ubuntu, mac, windows as a user but have never done anything with a "server".  Any suggestions for how to set this up?
[17:46] <mrwes> theclaw, oh...I must be color blind
[17:46] <ChogyDan> Windcape: gksu gedit          sorry
[17:47] <Windcape> ugh, terminal stuff
[17:47] <llua> trying to install 9.10 but it hangs when i choose" try ubuntu w/o changes" or "install ubuntu", the funny part is its working in vbox
[17:47] <theclaw> mrwes: I mean like only black&white, and low-res as the old one
[17:47] <RobLikesBrunch> HOW DO I INSTALL X64 FLASH.
[17:47] <ceafu> Hey everyone. Got Karmic installed on Mac Mini (2009) 64 bit. Runs great, but still no sound. Tried everything. I ike Snow Leopard a lot, but really want to use and learn more Linux. I am cursed with this sound issue.
[17:47] <detrix42> Hello everyone.  I tried to back up my home directory with a simple cp , but cp did not copy any of the hidden files.  How do I get cp to include hidden files?
[17:47] <dAnon> hi
[17:47] <joaopinto> !caps | RobLikesBrunch
[17:47] <ceafu> Hope everyone else who has installed is loving it.
[17:47] <RobLikesBrunch> joaopinto I was being ignored >: (
[17:47] <Ramunas> Dr_Cox: just install the server version, and then install the services you want, like ftp and etc
[17:47] <gdb> Dr_Cox: Install samba and then use smbpasswd to add accounts for your clients.  Then in Windows map a shared drive, on Mac Command-K to Go to Server and you're done.
[17:47] <snaporaz> hi
[17:47] <mrwes> theclaw, I was slightly upset in the fact you can't apply gdm themes to the login window
[17:47] <knarfix> ceafu: yes , why not for you?
[17:48] <snaporaz> !list
[17:48] <ekianjo> jaopinto, do you know if i can upgrade a netbook remix jaunty install to karmix using the alternate cd ? or is it only for desktop version ?
[17:48] <joaopinto> RobLikesBrunch, caps will improve that, from ignored you may go to banned !
[17:48] <robertc1985> help, i have several volumes that simply will not mount
[17:48] <dAnon> I've got a problem with Enemy Territory Quake Wars, it ran perfectly at 8.10 but in 9.04 it drops fps in fire fights, what's the problem?
[17:48] <lufasz> hey! how can I enable universe?
[17:48] <ChogyDan> detrix42: I think you can use: rsync -aS
[17:48] <joaopinto> ekianjo, no idea, I am not familiar with the remix variant
[17:48] <MenZa> !universe | lufasz
[17:48] <Windcape> I wish they would stop making files without extensions, annoying to differ them from directories
[17:48] <eitreach> Has file sharing been fixed in Karmic?
[17:48] <joaopinto> !universe | lufasz
[17:48] <RobLikesBrunch> joaopinto I doubt using caps once and a while to get someones attention will get me banned. Thanks for the lovely pseudo-moderation, though.
[17:48] <ceafu> not sure. tried many solutions and nothing. headphones work, but would rather use internal. Other than that, I am very pleased with the performance of 9.10
[17:48] <lufasz> !universe
[17:48] <ChogyDan> ekianjo: sure, why not?
[17:48] <bigjocker> RobLikesBrunch, last I checked the safest way was to download it from adobe's page ... aptitude will install the 32 bit version with a wrapper, but that hangs mozilla up all the time
[17:48] <Dr_Cox> thanks - what about very basic stuff like:  do I hook it up to my router, use a wireless card, etc?  The mac is wired to the router, the pc is wireless only.
[17:48] <theclaw> mrwes: okay, that's another issue :(
[17:48] <theclaw> mrwes: :) i mean
[17:48] <detrix42> ChogyDan: ok thanks I will try that
[17:48] <mlissner> I'm trying to set up anacron to run things on a weekly and monthly basis. Does anybody know what that involves?
[17:49] <joaopinto> RobLikesBrunch, don't push your lucj, and please be respectful to the people on the channel, tks
[17:49] <RobLikesBrunch> bigjocker: Does that work...for x64?
[17:49] <dAnon> I've got a problem with Enemy Territory Quake Wars, it ran perfectly at 8.10 but in 9.04 it drops fps in fire fights, what's the problem?
[17:49] <ekianjo> ChogyDan : so it will become the Karmic Netbook remix version with the alternate cd right ? it will not change into desktop ?
[17:49] <RobLikesBrunch> joaopinto: I think I'll push it. Thanks.
[17:49] <bigjocker> RobLikesBrunch, adobe has a 64 bit version for download
[17:49] <llua> trying to install 9.10 but it hangs when i choose" try ubuntu w/o changes" or "install ubuntu", the funny part is its working in vbox
[17:49] <joaopinto> dAnon, do you have the 3d capable driver installed ?
[17:49] <RobLikesBrunch> Bigjocker: I was unaware....thanks D:
[17:49] <gdb> RobLikesBrunch you just yelled at a bot
[17:49] <gdb> heh
[17:49] <bigjocker> llua, check the CD for errors
[17:49] <leachim6> ripps, this isn't a list of new features...it's a list of issues :/
[17:49] <dAnon> joaopinto 185 nvidia
[17:49] <wekt> Will there be a KK DVD?
[17:50] <C10uD> hello, anyone knows why pulseaudio keeps muting my sound on boot? i installed karmic like 2 months ago
[17:50] <ChogyDan> ekianjo: correct.  An upgrade should not make changes like that
[17:50] <mrwes> theclaw, yah I was surprised when I found that out, I normally install a beta in a Virtuabox, but didn't have the time this time around.
[17:50] <RobLikesBrunch> gdb: "don't push your lucj, and please be respectful to the people on the channel, tks" How is that a bot?
[17:50] <bigjocker> RobLikesBrunch, http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html
[17:50] <Pici> !dvdiso | wekt
[17:50] <llua> bigdog, it wont let me, that hangs too, but the livecd is working fine in vbox and the md5sum is correct
[17:50] <ekianjo> chogyDan, great !! thanks a lot for the very quick answer, i could not find it online !! have a nice day/night
[17:50] <ChogyDan> take care
[17:50] <ct529> hey the new ubuntu site front page is broken on firefox on kubuntu 904!
[17:50] <bigjocker> RobLikesBrunch, it's in alpha, but works great
[17:50] <RobLikesBrunch> bigjocker: Last time I downloaded the .deb package it was just i386
[17:50] <burntash> anyone know how to use ecryptfs?
[17:50] <ct529> who is supposed to fix that?
[17:50] <ripps> leachim6: oop, sorry http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/910overview
[17:50] <_CommandeR_> is there a problem with the ttf-mscorefonts-installer because i cannot get it installed allways timed out.
[17:50] <leachim6> ripps, thanks :D
[17:51] <gdb> RobLikesBrunch: Your comment about occasional caps in response to ubotu's "PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too."
[17:51] <RobLikesBrunch> bigjocker: Oh, different link. Thanks.
[17:51] <bigjocker> RobLikesBrunch, that's why you have to download it from that URL, it's the labs, alpha software not yet released
[17:51] <gdb> anyway, i just found humor in it :) lots of people talk to ubotu like it's human
[17:51] <RobLikesBrunch> gdb: I realize this, but the other guy activated the bot...so I was yelling at him for trying to moderate me.
[17:51] <dAnon> I've got a problem with Enemy Territory Quake Wars, it ran perfectly at 8.10 but in 9.04 it drops fps in fire fights, what's the problem?
[17:51] <timdot> am burning the ISO to a memory stick with unetbootin, currently
[17:51] <timdot> :D
[17:51] <leachim6> is there a facebook plugin for empathy?
[17:51] <gdb> ah
[17:51] <moabird> A quick question for anyone with an integrated Intel video card supposedly supported by the newest Intel drivers (2.9.0): having any trouble with Ubuntu using the drivers, although your card's supposedly been properly detected?
[17:51] <RobLikesBrunch> bigjocker, Got it--thanks.
[17:51] <habanany> hi brother arand
[17:52] <__shoot^> Hey folks. Just upgraded to Karmic, but my bluetooth kb/mouse aren't working in Bluetooth mode. hid2hci (needs to be run to connect up) asks for a devpath. Where might I find the devpath?
[17:52] <_CommandeR_> is there a way to fix the  ttf-mscorefonts-installer ?
[17:52] <theblue> Hi all.
[17:52] <robertc1985> help, i have several volumes that simply will not mount one of them is a NTFS internal PATA hard drive and the other is a USB zip250 vfat formatted, the system knows theey are there, but will not mount them
[17:52] <gdb> __shoot^: could it mean /dev ?  I dunno, just guessing :)
[17:52] <bigjocker> dAnon, which video card do you have?
[17:52] <theblue> I'm running UNR jaunty on an HP mini 1013, and the built-in wired ethernet card is not detected.
[17:52] <RobLikesBrunch> bigjocker, err...what do I do with the .so file?
[17:52] <theblue> what should I do?
[17:52] <Fishie> !torrents
[17:52] <__shoot^> gdb had a poke around there, couldn't see anything useful :(
[17:52] <bigjocker> RobLikesBrunch, copy it to /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[17:52] <habanany> need your help arand, is it posible to upgrade from karmic realease to 9.10 stable?
[17:53] <bigjocker> RobLikesBrunch, and create a symlink to usr/lib/firefox/plugins
[17:53] <darthanubis> habanany, why not?
[17:53] <RobLikesBrunch> bigjocker, what's a "symlink"?
[17:53] <bigjocker> RobLikesBrunch, er ... create a symlink to /usr/lib/firefox/plugins
[17:53] <leachim6> I just installed a fresh copy of UNR 9.04 on my hp mini about a week ago and I haven't really customized it much yet....should I just reinstall a fresh 9.10 instead of upgrading?
[17:53] <theblue> RobLikesBrunch: it's like a shortcut in Windows, or an alias in Mac OS.
[17:53] <bigjocker> !symlink
[17:53] <pyedog> hey everyone, anyone got any experience with windows 7 / grub?
[17:53] <bigjocker> !symlink ! RobLikesBrunch
[17:53] <habanany> i dont get it darthanubis
[17:53] <darthanubis> bigjocker, wrong, RobLikesBrunch  put the plugin in ~./mozilla/plugins where it belongs
[17:53] <bigjocker> bah
[17:53] <knarfix> RobLikesBrunch: symbolic link?
[17:53] <RobLikesBrunch> !symlink
[17:54] <burntash> im trying to run "ecryptfs-mount-private" and i get "ERROR: Encrypted private directory is not setup properly" any ideas?
[17:54] <darthanubis> habanany, I answered your question. What is not to get?
[17:54] <habanany> i ve  tried and nothing
[17:54] <vigo> pyedog: Sort of, yes
[17:54] <bigjocker> darthanubis, putting it in there will only activate it for the current user ... my instructions are for system wide installation
[17:54] <wilu> heay, how do i see what version of ubuntu i use ?
[17:54] <wilu> if it's Rc1 or beta?
[17:54] <mrwes> Anyone found a work around or fix for Handbrake under Karmic?
[17:54] <darthanubis> habanany, are you not familair with apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade?
[17:54] <wilu> how do i see if i got that new release?
[17:54] <habanany> i tried that
[17:54] <darthanubis> !details | mrwes
[17:54] <ks3> burntash: Did you already setup the encrypted diretory with ecryptfs-setup-private?
[17:54] <darthanubis> habanany, and...
[17:55] <mrwes> darthanubis, it doesn't run :P
[17:55] <seena> hi,1) How enable internet connectin icone and battery information icon on the panel?
[17:55] <seena> 2) How check if the files are corrupted and recover the same?
[17:55] <mrwes> darthanubis, and if they have Handbrake, they'll know what I'm talking about :)
[17:55] <RobLikesBrunch> bigjocker, I just moved it into plugins and it works perfectly. Thanks.
[17:55] <joaopinto> wilu, System -> About Ubuntu
[17:55] <centaur5> What is the password to the user on the Karmic desktop CD?
[17:55] <burntash> ks3: it says i cant because my /.Private folder already exists.  i basically encrypted my home partition on 9.04 install.  then i did a clean install of 9.10 just awhile ago and mounted my /home partition and i cant access it cause its encrypted
[17:55] <mrwes> wilu: from a terminal : lsb_release -a
[17:55] <habanany>  itried that command and nothing happened
[17:55] <wilu> joaopinto: ok well what should it write
[17:55] <darthanubis> habanany, something always happens
[17:56] <pyedog> vigo. i'm having problems. i installed windows 7 over my old vista partition. then reinstated grub. but it won't boot into windows partition any more, just goes back to the menu when i click it
[17:56] <wilu> 9.10
[17:56] <joaopinto> wilu, uh ? on the system menu, use the About Ubuntu item
[17:56] <burntash> ks3: i tried and successfully added my passphrase to the keyring with ecryptfs-add-passphrase but im not able to access still
[17:56] <pyedog> did u have any similar problems?
[17:56] <zealiod_> still having no luck trying to issue DHCP address over a VLAN
[17:56] <alnr> is php 5.3.0x available on any version of ubuntu? compared to debian i'm wondering if ubuntu would be ahead of behind debian in that respect
[17:56] <habanany> you mean this command     sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude safe-upgrade && sudo aptitude full-upgrade
[17:56] <wilu> ubuntu 9.10 release 9.10 codename karmic
[17:56] <joaopinto> alnr, check packages.ubuntu.com
[17:56] <vigo> pyedog: Try Fix MBR yet?
[17:56] <darthanubis> habanany, no I meant what I typed????
[17:56] <wilu> ok thsi is the latest?
[17:56] <alysson> to com duvida
[17:56] <joaopinto> wilu, yes
[17:56] <pyedog> not heard of that vigo. u have a link?
[17:57] <wilu> joeyeye: yea i just installed this 10min ago
[17:57] <_CommandeR_> hi i always get : E: ttf-mscorefonts-installed subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[17:57] <knarfix> i am running the live cd and have ubuntu-restricted-extras, medibuntu stuff, skype installed. all works. when i press install do all these get installed too?
[17:57] <alnr> joaopinto: i did (or a facsimile thereof) and didnt see it so i was wondering if anyone had personal exp installing it
[17:57] <ks3> burntash: Did you encrypt your entire home directory, or just ~/Private?
[17:57] <wilu> joeyeye: if u got beta version it should show up on lsb_relase ?
[17:57] <mrwes> Anyone found a work around or fix for Handbrake under Karmic? Here's a screenshot: http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/4121/handbrakeerror.png
[17:57] <shorty__> hey, i just installed karmic, it does not recognize my nvidia geforce 8600 gt card!
[17:57] <robertc1985> help, i have several volumes that simply will not mount one of them is a NTFS internal PATA hard drive and the other is a USB zip250 vfat formatted, the system knows theey are there, but will not mount them on ubuntu 8.04  sorry to keep asking but i need to get these mountsd
[17:57] <joaopinto> alnr, well, it should be trivial to build it from source, as long you have experiencing with building from source
[17:57] <gNewPower> Hi!  I ahve a small  question: I bought a Seagate 320GB external hard drive.  I want to format it for ext3 and run 'badblocks' on it to make sure that all is well before loading it up with data.  Does that sound reasonable or is there some reason why I should not do that?  Thanks!
[17:58] <timdot> i'm off to overwrite Xubuntu with the new Ubuntu
[17:58] <timdot> seeya guys
[17:58] <habanany> darthanubis , i just tried the one u just gave me and nothing
[17:58] <burntash> ks3: entire i think.  all the data is still in tact in and /home/username/.Private and in my /home/username there are only 2 files Access-Your-Private-Data.desktop and README.txt
[17:58] <joaopinto> gNewPower, sounds reasonable
[17:58] <wilu> joeyeye: if u got beta version it should show up on lsb_relase ?
[17:58] <gNewPower> joaopinto, thanks!
[17:58] <habanany> darthanubis , i just tried that other  and nothing
[17:58] <darthanubis> habanany, it always returns words, what are those words that you are calling 'nothing'?
[17:58] <vigo> pyedog: Not certain if it will work, but here is one link, http://www.computerhope.com/fixmbr.htm  looking for the Ubuntu Documentation now.
[17:59] <habanany> okok
[17:59] <habanany> hold on
[17:59] <seena> how scan missing files
[17:59] <habanany> one second
[17:59] <miromanyth> Does anyone have issues with SDLmame?
[17:59] <shorty__> hey, i just installed karmic, it does not recognize my nvidia geforce 8600 gt card! nothing showes up under "Administration - Hardware Drivers"! Can someone help me please?
[17:59] <ks3> burntash: I've not gone with that exact setup, so I may (hopefully) be wrong, but I thought that when you encrypt the entire thing, it actually stores the encrypted files in /var/lib/ecryptfs/$USER
[17:59] <darthanubis> Calculating upgrade... Done
[17:59] <darthanubis> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.?
[17:59] <gNewPower> joaopinto, I was just wondering if these drives had some kind of proprietary software which I should not remove when I repartition
[17:59] <_CommandeR_> hi i always get : E: ttf-mscorefonts-installed subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1 Anyone got a solution?
[17:59] <habanany> it says  command not found
[17:59] <alnr> joaopinto: i was hoping to avoid because i think it has lots of bits and pieces. but a while back i did find some debian experimental version and used that.
[17:59] <pyedog> thanks vigo. that'll do, gives me something to work with for a bit
[17:59] <ks3> burntash: But I've only setup ecrypt manually, so I may be way off...
[17:59] <Kirsch> hey all, is it possible to run a process and have ps ax show something different? one of the services i run (simplifymedia) shows my username and password if u do ps ax
[17:59] <darthanubis> _CommandeR_, yeah, wait and  run apt-get update again
[18:00] <darthanubis> habanany, your system sounds broken
[18:00] <_CommandeR_> darthanubis, i have this issue since 2 days ago
[18:00] <boomernang> shorty__: you need to update your sources before hardware  drivers will see anything
[18:00] <DareDevil0> Hola amigos la barra de gnome-do no les puedo quitar los iconos
[18:00] <knarfix> does ubuntu one work for you folks?
[18:00] <DareDevil0> como hago?
[18:00] <pyedog> vigo: plus google is my friend :o)
[18:00] <DareDevil0> sorry
[18:00] <Moonlit> pyedog - your Windows 7 DVD should allow you to repair the boot manager
[18:00] <joaopinto> gNewPower, oh, about that you will need to check vendor documentation, nothing we can help you with :P
[18:00] <habanany> when i typed the other one that i showed u before  it said all that u just write
[18:00] <gNewPower> joaopinto, ok. thanks!
[18:00] <gNewPower> bye
[18:00] <darthanubis> !es| DareDevil0
[18:00] <your_it> my clock is pausing at a certain second then jumping 2-4 seconds ahead. what's going on?
[18:00] <habanany> o this o that and that
[18:00] <pyedog> yeh it wont't let me do it for some reason Moonlit
[18:00] <vigo> pyedog: Here is one from or for 8.10, still looking though: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.10/switching/dualboot.html
[18:00] <burntash> ks3: when i do ls -al in my home dir, .ecryptfs points to /var/lib/ecryptfs/username
[18:00] <pyedog> thanks vigo
[18:01] <darthanubis> habanany, sudo apt-get update NEXT LINE sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[18:01] <your_it> my clock is pausing at random seconds then jumping 2-4 seconds ahead. what's going on?
[18:01] <ks3> burntash: Ahhh, so that is the case. Is there a /var/lib/ecryptfs? And if so, does it have a folder for your username?
[18:01] <Dergel> I upgraded my Ubuntu 9.04 to 9.10 and get an error now. After the restart it says "Mount of root filesystem failed."
[18:01] <darthanubis> more than likely you ARE at CURRENT now.
[18:01] <t0rc> How do you make time-based wallpapers for Ubuntu? Karmic comes with a pack
[18:01] <habanany> you mean i got the upgrade already?
[18:02] <darthanubis> habanany, OF COURSE
[18:02] <burntash> ks3: when i actually go into /var/lib, the ecryptfs directory doesnt exist
[18:02] <xisco> how can I create a new user who can't change the permissions of his folder ?
[18:02] <burntash> it only points there from my home dir
[18:02] <pyedog> ok i'm gonna try some things. thanks for the help vigo
[18:02] <vigo> pyedog: here is the official documentation from Ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[18:02] <ks3> burntash: Is your ~/.Private a symlink as well?
[18:02] <pyedog> thanks
[18:02] <Dergel> I upgraded my Ubuntu 9.04 to 9.10 and get an error now. After the restart it says "Mount of root filesystem failed." anyone can help? ->query
[18:02] <vigo> No problem
[18:02] <burntash> ks3: nope, it just stands alone as .Private  but all my data is in there
[18:03] <ceafu> knarfix: Ubuntu one seems to keep timing out for me
[18:03] <darthanubis> habanany, lsb_release -a
[18:03] <_CommandeR_> darthanubis, i have the exe on desktop how can i make it do use that one instead to download it again ?
[18:03] <boomernang> xisco: create a new user... then use the chown command to change the ownership of his /home/blah directory to someone else
[18:03] <darthanubis> _CommandeR_, .exe?
[18:04] <darthanubis> _CommandeR_, why in gods name are you trying to run an exe file?
[18:04] <ks3> burntash: If your encrypted files are stillin ~/.Private, I believe you can manually mount it as long as you made a note of the original passphrase (not your login passphrase, the mount passphrase ecrypt generated - usually a long set of hexadecimal characters)
[18:04] <xisco> boomernang, will the user be able to write/read/execute in that folder ?
[18:04] <burntash> ks3: i still do have the passphrase
[18:05] <_CommandeR_> darthanubis, that is what it tries to update/download
[18:05] <_CommandeR_> when installing playonlinux
[18:05] <darthanubis> !info ubuntu-restricted-extras | _CommandeR_
[18:05] <habanany> darthanubis  when i type sudo apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade it  says Reading package lists... Done
[18:05] <habanany> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied)
[18:05] <habanany> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[18:05] <darthanubis> _CommandeR_, you want msffonts?
[18:05] <darthanubis> habanany, you have more than one package manager open dude
[18:06] <Dergel> I upgraded my Ubuntu 9.04 to 9.10 and get an error now. After the restart it says "Mount of root filesystem failed." anyone can help? ->query
[18:06] <habanany> how do i know bro?
[18:06] <darthanubis> !repeat | Dergel
[18:06] <PrinceOfDarkness> quick question, I see no official guide to 9.10 upgraede. Anyone knows what to do with nvidia drivers please ?
[18:06] <darthanubis> habanany, LOOK
[18:06] <_CommandeR_> darthanubis, well it seems that playonlinux needs them
[18:06] <darthanubis> !nvidia | PrinceOfDarkness
[18:06] <necweston> !torrents
[18:06] <ctmjr> habanany: the command is sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade note the sudo twice
[18:06] <habanany> i only have open chatzilla , firefox and terminal?
[18:07] <theclaw> why are the icons in the "system" menu (at the right of the "places" menu)  gone in karmic?
[18:07] <kazaa_lite> oka... i can manually start my application using my script in init.d but it does not start at boot time..... how does my init script gets executed at boot time?
[18:07] <darthanubis> _CommandeR_, msffonts are in the repos. You will get them by installing the ubuntu-restricted-extras package
[18:07] <ks3> burntash: Then create /var/lib/ecryptfs/$USER, and use ecryptfs-wrap-passphrase to regenerate ~/.ecryptfs/wrapped-passphrase
[18:07] <zim> I all Remote Desktop Q. Is there a way to get remote desktop to connect to listening vnc server. I need to do this for a friend who has no way of setting firewall rules on her network?
[18:07] <darthanubis> habanany, how many terminals?
[18:08] <darthanubis> _CommandeR_, never try to run .exes this aint windows
[18:08] <Fishie> Hi people, after upgrading to 9.10 my ventrilo stopped working, 'input device busy';
[18:08] <habanany> only one teminal
[18:08] <Fishie> Failed to open input device. Another program might have it open already. rc = -10
[18:08] <om26er> how can i install ubuntu to load most on the ram
[18:08] <_CommandeR_> darthanubis, i know :P but this it what the synaptic tries to download
[18:08] <burntash> ks3: what will wrap passphrase do
[18:08] <your_it> my clock is pausing at a random seconds then jumping 2-4 seconds ahead. what's going on?
[18:08] <ks3> burntash: You'll also want to touch ~/.ecryptfs/auto-mount, ~/.ecryptfs/auto-umount, and run "echo /home/$USER >~/.ecryptfs/Private.mnt"
[18:08] <darthanubis> habanany, just use synaptic for upgrades and updates. you don't seem to have a grasp of the cli yet
[18:09] <darthanubis> _CommandeR_, let synaptic do what it wants
[18:09] <bobsaccamano> hi...how do i enable paste functionality with mouse right click in terminal?
[18:09] <bobsaccamano> doesnt seem to work in jaunty
[18:09] <neorab> middle click
[18:09] <bobsaccamano> and copy with text selection
[18:09] <darthanubis> _CommandeR_, get back to me when you've followed the previous instructions I gave you?
[18:09] <ks3> burntash: It generates the file ecryptfs needs to mount your directory. ecrypt uses your logon password to decrypt the wrapped-passphrase file, then uses the decrypted wrapped passphrase to mount your encrypted directory
[18:09] <habanany> what to hit on synaptic?
[18:09] <darthanubis> !synaptic | habanany
[18:10] <darthanubis> habanany, you have much reading to do my lazy padawan
[18:10] <burntash> ks3: so ill have to sudo mkdir that dir in /var/lib?
[18:10] <ks3> burntash: Yes
[18:10] <burntash> k ill try that real quick here
[18:10] <ks3> burntash: But you'll want to chown it to your user and group
[18:10] <_CommandeR_> darthanubis, did a apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras trying it now, but it is slow because the old mscorefonts installer allways tries to download it.
[18:10] <habanany> understood but what do i do once i'm on sypnatic
[18:10] <zim> any Rmote Desktop users in here I need to get it to connect to a listening vnc server. is there a Howto anywhere?
[18:11] <habanany> i open synaptic already , what do i do now?
[18:11] <ceafu> Ignoring the mac mini part of it, is anyone else lacking all sound and making any progress fixing it?
[18:11] <_CommandeR_> darthanubis, gonna remove it from the catch and try again
[18:11] <darthanubis> habanany, I'm not going to teach you HOW to use Ubuntu. There is not enough time or space
[18:11] <antii> uhm, I installed my ubuntu and choose that i would have a encrypted home directory, how can I undo it?
[18:11] <habanany> ok, thanks anyway
[18:11] <Zzeiss> Question on VirtualBox: is there any way to convert between a VirtualBox VM disk image and boot it as a _real_ (that is, host) operating system?
[18:11] <darthanubis> antii, reinstall
[18:11] <awozniak> anyone ever seen anything like "d????????? ? ?    ?       ? " when doing an ls -la on a CIFS (samba) mounted directory?
[18:11] <ceafu> Mac Mini - Realtek ALC889A -
[18:11] <antii> darthanubis: for real?...
[18:11] <darthanubis> Zzeiss, no
[18:11] <sudobash> I was contacted by a headhunter trying to hire me for Microsoft yesterday... I told him I was a hardcore Linux and BSD advocate and that I probably wouldn't be allowed to work for them since I use Open Source code for everything
[18:11] <darthanubis> antii, yeah
[18:11] <antii> darthanubis: I havent entered any encrypted password yet so
[18:11] <premiere> Does KVM easy to use?
[18:12] <mokmeister> Congrats to Ubuntu, I'm downloading Unbuntu 9.10 and Kubuntu 9.10 at super fast speeds (400kB/s each!)
[18:12] <bao__> can someone lend me a shell account for testing?
[18:12] <LjL> sudobash: and why should we care? you're on #ubuntu not #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:12] <Zzeiss> darthanubis: Thanks.  (*sigh*)
[18:12] <darthanubis> premiere, not as easy as Virtualbox
[18:12] <burntash> ks3: made the dir, then i typed "ecryptfs-wrap-passphrase" and it isnt the right usage, do i have to type something after ecryptfs-wrap-passphrase
[18:12] <_syntax_> How do yall like ubuntu karmic so far?
[18:12] <seena> hi, how to enable network manager tray icone
[18:12] <darthanubis> Zzeiss, yw
[18:12] <joaopinto> !ot | _syntax_
[18:12] <darthanubis> !poll | _syntax_
[18:12] <_Nihil85_> ciao a tutti
[18:12] <LjL> !it | _Nihil85_
[18:12] <ks3> burntash: ecryptfs-wrap-passphrase ~/.ecryptfs/wrapped-passphrase
[18:13] <Zzeiss> premiere: Opinions differ.  ;)   I do have to say that VirtualBox is highly polished.  :)
[18:13] <CFulcrum> Hello
[18:13] <sudobash> still the same old ASS huh LjL? At least your responding to people...
[18:13] <ctmjr> awozniak: it means your permissions are fubar
[18:13] <akash> aNYONE ONLINE ?
[18:13] <quentusrex_> How do I determine if my ubuntu machine needs to be rebooted
[18:13] <darthanubis> !hi | CFulcrum
[18:13] <LjL> !ops | sudobash
[18:13] <quentusrex_> if I have unattended upgrade installed
[18:13] <premiere> Zzeiss: thx
[18:13] <darthanubis> quentusrex_, it will tell you
[18:14] <CFulcrum> I have a question about uninstalling Ubuntu from a dual boot
[18:14] <quentusrex_> darthanubis, how and when? and how do I find out for myself?
[18:14] <awozniak> ctmjr: I can tell.  =)  More than that is fubar.  directory names are also fubar (no, setting iocharset=utf8 does not help)
[18:14] <omani> what does "require my password to log in and to decrypt my home folder" mean? - installation of koala -
[18:14] <febb> Hello all:  Does anyone knows of a web page that shows the ACTUAL and updated hashes (md5sum or sha) of the new Ubuntu 9.10 cd/dvd images ?
[18:14] <omani> will my home folder be decrypted then?
[18:14] <darthanubis> quentusrex_, it will be OBVIOUS, you know in words text pop up, dialog box?
[18:14] <vigo> !MD5
[18:14] <darthanubis> CFulcrum, just delete the partititon
[18:14] <rosebj> anyone else getting a "Capabilities mismatch" error with Ubuntu One?
[18:14] <Zzeiss> premiere: There are at least three big ones- VirtualBox (which you download), KVM (which comes with Ubuntu and loads a module that is NOT compatible with VirtualBox - the kvm-intel module) and then there's Xen.
[18:15] <darthanubis> rosebj, no
[18:15] <quentusrex_> darthanubis, I have a headless server
[18:15] <quentusrex_> and it isn't telling me when I ssh in.
[18:15] <joaopinto> Zzeiss, virtualbox is also available from Ubuntu repositories
[18:15] <Jeruvy> febb: there is a md5sum file on the servers you can view or download
[18:15] <darthanubis> quentusrex_, when you login out of it via term, and log back into it, it will say on the cmd line
[18:15] <vigo> febb: That ubottu msg was for you.
[18:15] <zim> Ok. I will restructure my question. What is the best way to view/control a desktop where the laptop is on a network where you can't port foward?
[18:15] <arand> CFulcrum: darthanubis: NO do not just delete the partition.
[18:15] <kraligor> Can someone help me out? I just installed 9.10, was looking forward to the improved ATi support, but when I go to Hardware Drivers there's nothing to select. I use an ATi 3870 PCIe.
[18:15] <defrysk> rosebj, i get that too, its temporarily and being worked on
[18:16] <defrysk> rosebj, server has to be upgraded
[18:16] <max_> Is there any way to make the download speed faster in the ubuntu 9.10 upgrade? I'm using the alternate CD but It's downloading 200MB of files before the actual install.
[18:16] <CFulcrum> Do I need to do anything else after deleting the partition?
[18:16] <rosebj> defrysk : thanks
[18:16] <max_> I'm getting 10kb/s
[18:16] <TecnoBrat> So .. unless I'm crazy ... I can't seem to update any packages since yesterday (I am running RC), is there actually any updates?
[18:16] <darthanubis> arand, you can just enlighten him, I do it all the time to remove dualboot, and then just use the windows boot disk to return the windows boot sector. What is the problem?
[18:16] <burntash> rs3: i get "error: wrapping passphrase failed [-5]  info: check the system log for more information from libecryptfs
[18:17] <zim> kraligor: The improvement is it no longer requires proprietary
[18:17] <darthanubis> CFulcrum, fdisk /mbr
[18:17] <seena> hi, Network Manger icon is removed and how to replace it
[18:17] <BadElvis> i can access my sound device as root, but not as my normal user. what can i do?
[18:17] <febb> ubottu: Did that already: It turns that the UbuntuHashes page DOES NOT have the hashes for any image of 9.10 !   go figure....
[18:17] <darthanubis> seena, nm-applet
[18:17] <CFulcrum> I'm not familiar with that - do I edit something?
[18:17] <arand> CFulcrum: darthanubis: Do you have a windows boot disk?
[18:17] <Powersource> what do you guys think about 9.10? do you get any problems with hardware etc.?
[18:17] <darthanubis> arand, I would not have said so if I did not?
[18:17] <ubuntu-> ubottu: kernel error
[18:18] <uniq_user> is there no 64-bit Ubuntu 9.10 yet?
[18:18] <seena> darthanubis, should i type it on terminal?
[18:18] <darthanubis> CFulcrum, forget my advise, your not at the proper user level to accomplish said task. Search google for removal of dualboot
[18:18] <Zzeiss> Powersource: I'm installing 9.10 into a VirtualBox virtual machine right now.  We'll see how it works.  :)
[18:18] <ks3> burntash: Perhaps forgot to chown directory? chown user:group /var/lib/ecryptfs/user
[18:18] <The_Jag1> Hi all, is it advisable to change the partition from ext2 to ext4? will I loose data in the process?
[18:18] <darthanubis> seena, alt-F2 then type it there
[18:18] <kraligor> zim: But I don't get the desktop effects activated!
[18:18] <batrick> !torrents
[18:18] <unomystEz> anyone here running ubuntu on their ps3?
[18:18] <febb>  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes needs an update for 9.10 hashes !  this is urgent !
[18:19] <darthanubis> unomystEz, lol why would I do that?
[18:19] <PrinceOfDarkness> another thing folks, I got 9.10 alternate upgrade DVD, but still - it needs to pull 311MB of packages from net. Looks like the DD image is vastly outdated!
[18:19] <Fishie> @ Ventrilo: Failed to open input device. Another program might have it open already. rc = -10 - anyone knows how to fix?
[18:19] <vigo> The_Jag1: Back it up.
[18:19] <arand> darthanubis: sorry, question aimed at CF, comment that not everyone has one was what I was conveying..
[18:19] <obiwan_> hey guys please one fast question, i know wep keys got 5 or 13 characters, but i'm always confused, do i must specify the 5 chars? or if i type 3, there's a default padding char for missing chars?
[18:19] <burntash> ks3: what would the group be?
[18:19] <darthanubis> arand, I follow:)
[18:19] <The_Jag1> vigo: ok TY
[18:19] <asteroid> hello
[18:19] <ks3> burntash: Probably the same as your username
[18:19] <zim> kraligor: Ah ok have you tryed downloading the .deb from the ATi site?
[18:19] <joshyfluff> hello all ^^
[18:19] <burntash> rs3: thats what i thought
[18:19] <unomystEz> ok, then would xubuntu be considered the "lightest" of the 3 ubuntu distros?
[18:20] <Jad-J> hola
[18:20] <seena> darthanubis, its throwing any error msg, could not open <location>mm-applet
[18:20] <Jad-J> i have a problem with my package manager
[18:20] <darthanubis> seena, nm not mm
[18:20] <Jad-J> Could not initialize the package information
[18:20] <Jad-J> An unresolvable problem occurred while initialising the package information.
[18:20] <Jad-J> Please report this bug against the 'update-manager' package and include the following error message:
[18:20] <Jad-J> 'E:Encountered a section with no Package: header, E:Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/au.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_jaunty_universe_binary-i386_Packages, E:The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.'
[18:20] <FloodBot1> Jad-J: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:20] <joshyfluff> could someone tell me if they flow of a command to list all installed programs?
[18:20] <Jad-J> can anyone help?
[18:20] <JuJuBee> I have a pc with Pentium4 24.Ghz and 256 MB Ram,  what ubuntu should I install?
[18:20] <The_Jag1> also one question: is there a way to back up all repositories AND programs' names so that I can remember all installed software after the update to karmic?
[18:20] <nyash> Hi. I am having trouble with 9.10 and WiFi Drivers. After an installation the propretary drivers are not being detected. I installed manually two packages from the CD that are in .deb format. 'DKMS' and 'BWML-KERNEL-SOURCE' After that, it detected my WIFI drivers, but after pressing 'ACTIVATE' nothing happens. It just wont activate them :/
[18:20] <darthanubis> seena, as in nm=NetworkManager
[18:20] <darthanubis> !info nm-applet
[18:20] <burntash> rs3: yea i was able to do it without error that time
[18:21] <Jad-J> ?
[18:21] <ripps> JuJuBee: Xubuntu, because you don't have enough ram for gnome or kde
[18:21] <fwaokda_> how do i get my display to quit dimming while it's idle? I went to power options and unchecked it but it still happens...
[18:21] <joaopinto> JuJuBee, check https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[18:21] <febb> UBUNTU Team,  this is urgent :   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes needs an update for 9.10 hashes !  this is urgent !
[18:21] <ks3> joshyfluff: dpkg --get-selections
[18:21] <awayguy> o tachifcha none
[18:21] <JuJuBee> ripps thanks
[18:21] <Helsinkiii> if i upgrade to karmic from jaunty, how many MB will that download
[18:21] <LjL> The_Jag1: i you *upgrade*, you won't lose your programs in the firs place. only if you reinstall from scratch.
[18:21] <joshyfluff> thankyou ks3 :D
[18:21] <The_Jag1> LjL: yeah I meant reinstall sorry
[18:21] <piotrek> hejo
[18:21] <Jad-J> ? :S
[18:21] <darthanubis> Helsinkiii! how ever many it tells you. It would be specific to YOUR install, so we can;t answer that
[18:21] <ks3> burntash: excellent
[18:21] <Jad-J> somebody help me
[18:22] <unitedpotsmokers> guys, i need help, where to download iso of ubuntu malaysia mirror?
[18:22] <piotrek> do you speak polish
[18:22] <darthanubis> !ask | Jad-J
[18:22] <uniq_user> http://it.releases.ubuntu.com/9.10/ubuntu-9.10-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent
[18:22] <uniq_user> ty
[18:22] <isolatedsh33p> hey guys, somehow i lost internet connection in my ubuntu D:
[18:22] <Jad-J> darthanubis: Could not initialize the package information
[18:22] <Jad-J> An unresolvable problem occurred while initialising the package information.
[18:22] <Jad-J> Please report this bug against the 'update-manager' package and include the following error message:
[18:22] <Helsinkiii> darthanubis:thx
[18:22] <Jad-J> 'E:Encountered a section with no Package: header, E:Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/au.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_jaunty_universe_binary-i386_Packages, E:The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.'
[18:22] <FloodBot1> Jad-J: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:22] <darthanubis> !it | uniq_user
[18:22] <Jad-J> package manager problem
[18:22] <IdleOne> !pl | piotrek
[18:22] <piotrek> po polsku bym pogadał
[18:22] <LjL> The_Jag1: there is no way to do that properly, sorry. you can get a list of all installed packages, but it's *not* a good idea to use that list to reinstall them all, because some of them will be libraries and stuff what was specific to jaunty, not really karmic
[18:22] <burntash> ks3: touch ~/.ecryptfs/auto-mount no such file or directory, ill have to sudo?
[18:22] <kraligor> zim: I haven't downloaded anything yet. Do I get them via the usual ATi Driver Selection interface?
[18:23] <joaopinto> febb, check http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.10/, the md5sums are there
[18:23] <LjL> darthanubis: i don't see anyone speaking italian
[18:23] <ks3> burntash: Shouldn't have to... are you able to get a directory listing of ~/.ecryptfs now?
[18:23] <joshyfluff> what are md5sums for? :S
[18:23] <zim> kraligor: I think so have not done it for a long time. just choose linux as your OS
[18:23] <ripps> joshyfluff: to make sure that your iso download correctly
[18:24] <burntash> rs3: nevermind my dumbass kept trying to spell it encrypt instead of ecrypt
[18:24] <joshyfluff> oh, thanks ripps, i never found out what they did. :D
[18:24] <darthanubis> LjL, don't worry about me
[18:24] <ks3> burntash: aha... that happens
[18:24] <seena> darthanubis, nm-applet=NetworkManager is throwing an error msg "could not open..
[18:24] <Daedalus`> Witam
[18:24] <brianV> Hi. I upgraded to Karmic, and am having trouble with Zend Studio, which is based on Eclipse. Namely, so dialogue buttons don't see to work since the upgrade. Has there been any major changes to java that may have caused this?
[18:24] <kraligor> zim: Alright, I found them. Will a doubleklick on the .deb do? :X
[18:24] <kraligor> c*
[18:24] <joshyfluff> thanks for the help guys! *gone*
[18:24] <seena> darthanubis, nm-applet=Network Manager
[18:24] <burntash> rs3: echo /home/$USER >~/.ecryptfs/Private.mnt should i use $USER or my actual username
[18:25] <The_Jag1> LjL: ok, uhm, well I can still use it to see what's in my PC then I made the addition manually doing the modification needed. So I just need to print sources.list file or need other things too, to see all packages installed
[18:25] <kraligor> Oh, it's a .run.
[18:25] <darthanubis> seena, an abreviated error does me no good as to what is happening on your system. just log out and log back in
[18:25] <zim> kraligor: synaptic should take over then follow instructions
[18:25] <bp0> how to tell if I'm using xsplash or usplash?
[18:25] <kraligor> zim: Thanks a lot! :)
[18:25] <zim> kraligor: Np
[18:25] <febb> joaopinto:  Thanks !  but the UbuntuHashes page needs and urgent update..I am complaining since I saw a "doctored" 9.10 iso image...this is for rural installs who need the real stuff and where to verify its integrity.
[18:25] <Scunizi> Why would blkid report many more partitions than what gparted can see?
[18:25] <seena> darthanubis, ok
[18:25] <Manifest> When I tell my computer to sleep or hibernate it turns off. Why?
[18:26] <Manifest> Actually, it freezes THEN turns off...
[18:26] <ks3> burntash: either. The shell will replace $USER with your username if you use that one. Also, that's assuming you've got your whole home directory setup for encryption, which is what I think you said..?
[18:26] <jrr> every time ubuntu releases I experiment with dual display and rotation out of morbid curiosity.. nothing's changed =\
[18:26] <ripps> bp0: you should be using both, usplash is the single white ubuntu icon with a black backdrop, xsplash is the animated one with the dark gradient backdrop
[18:26] <burntash> ks3: thought so, cause thats bash script/code right
[18:26] <uniq_user> http://it.releases.ubuntu.com/9.10/ubuntu-9.10-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent   I'm getting 600-700 KB/s down, woo hoo
[18:26] <LjL> The_Jag1: "dpkg --get-selectons" will list all installed packages. you can redirect that to a file to save the list
[18:26] <bp0> ripps, thanks
[18:26] <burntash> ks3: in either case, i did that
[18:26] <The_Jag1> LjL: nice thanks!
[18:26] <ks3> burntash: Yep, bash will replace $USER with your username.
[18:27] <brandonban6> hey all.... my ubuntu system running 9.04 boots to a black screen with a cursor flashing... I can't type anything, I can only ctrl+alt+del... I found some tips online, but no worky worky. Any thoughts??
[18:27] <Scunizi> LjL: can that command be used with another switch to get just the packages that have been installed at the users request?
[18:27] <kevin009> after an install, xorg is trying to use a higher refresh rate than the monitor can do. how do i force it to load in safe graphics mode?
[18:27] <ks3> burntash: And unless I've forgotten something, that should be all you need to get your encrypted home auto-mounted on login
[18:27] <seena> darthanubis, i am still not able see an icon of Network Manager
[18:27] <Guest23027> Any major issues updating from Jaunty to Karmic?
[18:27] <Zzeiss> brandonban6: Hmmm... do you get any textage at all (even if it goes away?)
[18:27] <vgambit> I installed the RC the other day and did a network upgrade yesterday, but today it won't download any new updates
[18:28] <darthanubis> seena, I honestly don't believe you know what to look for.
[18:28] <vgambit> have there been any updates to karmic since yesterday, or is that normal?
[18:28] <brandonban6> Zzeiss,  good question, let me check.
[18:28] <burntash> ks3: well i tried ecryptfs-mount-private just now after that and it still says not setup properly
[18:28] <LjL> Scunizi: uhm, good point. not that command, no, but there could be a command. i know how to do it with aptitude, but that will only work if you only installed stuff wih aptitude i believe
[18:28] <darthanubis> vgambit, other than ubuntuone being updated nope
[18:28] <Fishie> @ Ventrilo: Failed to open input device. Another program might have it open already. rc = -10 - anyone knows how to fix?
[18:28] <vgambit> oh ok
[18:28] <Zzeiss> brandonban6: Also try CTRL-ALT-F1 thru F6 to see if any of those show text (that is, more than the flashy cursor)
[18:28] <JoeyM1> Hi. Just upgraded from Jaunty to Karmic and now my touchpad has some serious issues. Anybody know where I can get touchpad drivers for an acer travelmate 5720? Or is there another way to fix it?
[18:28] <vgambit> thank your
[18:28] <vgambit> you*
[18:28] <nyash> Hi. I am having trouble with 9.10 and WiFi Drivers. After an installation the propretary drivers are not being detected. I installed manually two packages from the CD that are in .deb format. 'DKMS' and 'BWML-KERNEL-SOURCE' After that, it detected my WIFI drivers, but after pressing 'ACTIVATE' nothing happens. It just wont activate them :/
[18:29] <fabuloso> hi
[18:29] <zim> Back to my Q. can anyone tell me how to Remote Desktop through a firewall I can't change. Can I get Remote Desktop to connect to a listening VNC viewer?
[18:29] <seena> darthanubis, i am new to ubuntu, as i love to work with it i need your help in this. I agree with your point.
[18:29] <Scunizi> LjL: I've been hunting for such a command.. makes more sense in what it reports espicially if you're trying to create another system with the same favored packages.
[18:29] <ks3> burntash: Hmmm.... try ecryptfs-add-passphrase once more
[18:29] <JoeyM1> any ideas at all?
[18:30] <brandonban6> Zzeiss,  no text... grub loads like normal and then straight to the cursor, not even the ubuntu splash screen... ctrl+alt (F1-F6) doesn't do anything, ctrl alt del reboots the system.
[18:30] <p31181-irc> привет
[18:30] <darthanubis> seena, it is just that I'm working in the dark with you. I can't see your desktop. But the network manager icon is on the upper task bar. If it is a wired connection, it looks like a diagonal link. If wireless it is a cellphone bar icon
[18:30] <ortsvorsteher> !ru
[18:30] <p31181-irc> ну как, кто-нибудь уже увидел воочию u9.10?
[18:31] <ortsvorsteher> !en | p31181-irc
[18:31] <isola73dsh33p> test
[18:31] <antii> test
[18:31] <Xcell> tested
[18:31] <SMiTTY> Woot....9.10 upgrade went smooth....
[18:31] <antii> SMiTTY: I like it too!
[18:31] <The_Jag1> LjL: I need to save sources.list to backup repositories right?
[18:31] <darthanubis> SMiTTY, good job!
[18:31] <p31181-irc> oh, sorry for my russian
[18:31] <antii> Why wont my middlemouse on my Thinkpad X40 work!? ;(
[18:31] <antii> Cant scroll with it
[18:31] <isola73dsh33p> SMiTTY, mine's not
[18:31] <seena> darthanubis, I removed it unfortunately long back, but my question is how should I replace on the tray?
[18:32] <burntash> ks3: says it inserted auth tok with sig [buncha hex] into the user session keyring, but still isnt setup properly
[18:32] <Zzeiss> brandonban6: Hmmm.... but at least GRUB saw things, eh?  Can you boot a 'recovery' mode?  (I'm thinking your xorg.conf got corrupted)
[18:32] <JoeyM1> Sorry about the repost but nobody said anything.
[18:32] <JoeyM1>  Hi. Just upgraded from Jaunty to Karmic and now my touchpad has some serious issues. Anybody know where I can get touchpad drivers for an acer travelmate 5720? Or is there another way to fix it?
[18:32] <isola73dsh33p> SMiTTY, how'd you upgrade yours?
[18:32] <darthanubis> seena, removed it how?
[18:32] <LjL> The_Jag1: if you have third party repositories enabled, i suppose. but DON'T just copy it over the new karmic list later! that would be terrible.
[18:32] <ks3> burntash: Okay. Do you have a ~/Private directory as well, or just ~/.Private?
[18:32] <llua> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8189448#post8189448
[18:32] <zim> antii: try push Left + Right together = middle
[18:32] <seena> darthanubis, right click and remove from the panel
[18:32] <mattwj2002> !celebration
[18:32] <antii> zim: that works, but not as scrolling
[18:33] <The_Jag1> LjL: nono I just want the list as a reminding tool :)
[18:33] <brandonban6> Zzeiss, if i go into 2.6.28-16 recovery mode, it doesn't look like the normal recovery mode (blue screen with menu to clean, drop to root shell, etc) instead it's a black screen... a bunch of text
[18:33] <seena> darthanubis, do i need do some configuration again?
[18:33] <p31181-irc> and so, may i ask there a question about flash video troubles in 9.04 (jaunty)?
[18:33] <darthanubis> seena, you can't remove it that way, unless you removed the WHOLE indicator applet?
[18:33] <mattwj2002> oh man ubottu is a drag
[18:33] <ortsvorsteher> just ask p31181-irc
[18:33] <burntash> ks3: all thats in /home/$USER is Access-Your-Private-Data.desktop which symlinks to >- /usr/share/ecryptfs-utils/ecryptfs-mount-private.desktop, .cache, .ecryptfs which symlinks to that /var/lib dir, .Private and README.txt
[18:33] <seena> darthanubis, ohhh no, what should i do now?
[18:33] <K0BA> anyone know how i can disable my touchpad in karmic? my laptop's touchpad is knackered, and disabling it and using a usb mouse is the only way i can get anything done without massive amounts of frustration
[18:33] <brandonban6> Zzeiss, i'm left with a cursor, I can type it says (initramfs) <blinking cursor>
[18:33] <SMiTTY> I see they swapped Pidgin with Empathy...Anyone got OCS working with empathy ?
[18:34] <darthanubis> seena, right click  the panel and readd the "indicator applet"
[18:34] <ripps> SMiTTY: no OCS in empathy
[18:34] <spiraliz_> K0BA, disable it in bios ?
[18:34] <KrisDouglas> !empathy
[18:34] <isola73dsh33p> guys, i could not use my update manager, what might be the problem?
[18:34] <zim> Can anyone tell me how to Remote Desktop through a firewall I can't change. Can I get Remote Desktop to connect to a listening VNC viewer? Or tell me a better way :'(
[18:34] <Fishie> !karmic
[18:34] <LjL> Scunizi: uh, actually, now that i think of it, aptitude's command *should* just work, even if you normally don't use aptitude. except it is failing on my system for some reason... but try « aptitude search '?installed!?automatic' »
[18:35] <KrisDouglas> zim, you have to speak to your network admin, or consider using a proxy like hamache or an open source equiv.
[18:35] <JoeyM1> Hi. Just upgraded from Jaunty to Karmic and now my touchpad has some serious issues. Anybody know where I can get touchpad drivers for an acer travelmate 5720? Or is there another way to fix it?
[18:35] <brandonban6> zim,  install hamachi on both clients, and then use RDP with that connection. Google Hamachi
[18:35] <KrisDouglas> hamachi*
[18:35] <K0BA> disable it it bios? sounds beyond my abilities, but i'll read up on it... jaunty just had a checkbox in gnome-mouse-properties
[18:35] <hajmola> is there a way I can get openoffice to not follow my custom Gnome theme? It's a dark theme and the colors clash in OO
[18:35] <jfb_h2o> zim, can't remember the details, but I got something like this to work using port forwarding and reverse ssh
[18:35] <brandonban6> KrisDouglas, you and I are on the same page :)
[18:36] <Tux^1> hi all
[18:36] <ks3> burntash: Alright. Let's try chmod -R g-rwx,o-rwx /var/lib/ecryptfs/$USER
[18:36] <h4f> i I just installed Jaunty . with ext4. will it cleanly update to koala and grub 2 ?
[18:36] <DrMrHorse> anybody have a working copy of karmic from a wubi install?
[18:36] <spanther> Why is there no official Adobe Flash Player 10 Plugin inside the Repository of 9.10?
[18:36] <burntash> ks3: inside the /usr/share/ecyptfs-utils/ecryptfs-mount-private.desktop it has [desktop entry] followed by some values set, like Name=Access Your PRivate Data
[18:36] <burntash> etc
[18:36] <burntash> dunno if that should be set to my username or not
[18:36] <Tux^1> is there a problem in upgrade of Empathy today? i am getting error
[18:36] <darthanubis> h4f, no, you have to update grub manually
[18:36] <isola73dsh33p> hello guys, how to upgrade to 9.10?
[18:36] <alesan> hi is there an announcement for the successor of karmik yet?
[18:36] <h4f> darthanubis: but the rest is ok ?
[18:36] <ks3> burntash: Nope, those are generic files for anyone using ecrypt on the system
[18:36] <darthanubis> !upgrade | isola73dsh33p
[18:37] <DJones> !lucid | alesan
[18:37] <seena> darthanubis, after i click add on "indicator applet", its not adding
[18:37] <darthanubis> h4f, yeah. but if you JUST installed 9.04, why not cleanly install 9.10??
[18:37] <isola73dsh33p> darthanubis, thanks
[18:37] <burntash> ks3: ran chmod -R g-rwx,o-rwx /var/lib/ecryptfs/$USER
[18:37] <alesan> DJones, that will be a long term releasae?
[18:37] <seena> darthanubis, I mean its not adding to panel, nothing is happening
[18:37] <KrisDouglas> alesan: god, give karmic a chance, its only been out for a few hours and you are already wishing it away
[18:37] <zim> KrisDouglas: brandonban6 jfb_h2o . I can run a listening vnc viewer my end just need her to be able to click button on desktop which connects to my server I can control my network/firewall. I just can't find the option to connect to the viewer.
[18:37] <darthanubis> seena, I find that hard to believe
[18:37] <hajmola> is there a way I can get openoffice to not follow my custom Gnome theme? It's a dark theme and the colors clash in OO
[18:37] <ripps> JoeyM1: have you tried filing a bug report? `ubuntu-bug xserver-xorg-input-synaptics`
[18:37] <DJones> alesan: I think its planned to be a LTS
[18:37] <mikebeecham> guys...my Karmic notification OSD seems to be really small...is there anything I can do to change this?
[18:37] <_CommandeR_> darthanubis fixed it wget http://kent.dl.sourceforge.net/project/corefonts/the%20fonts/final/andale32.exe
[18:37] <h4f> darthanubis: you wan't belive me. its a mistake
[18:38] <alesan> KrisDouglas, so why is there an anouncement for the next version already?
[18:38] <darthanubis> seena, you should just reinstall, and don't break things you can't fix
[18:38] <Tux^1> hi all, is anyone else having problem upgrading empathy?!
[18:38] <sin3t> 1
[18:38] <zim> KrisDouglas: brandonban6 jfb_h2o. I can set it up as a script as I have a static IP
[18:38] <Tux^1> or is it just me
[18:38] <incorrect> ok so if acl has been removed from the normal distro, what are you supposed to use now?
[18:38] <seena> darthanubis, reinstall ubuntu?
[18:38] <darthanubis> _CommandeR_, I don't even want to know why or how;)
[18:38] <ks3> burntash: Okay, let's try the mount again
[18:39] <darthanubis> seena, you have issues over there that can't be solved remotely due to your inexperience.
[18:39] <SMiTTY> sucks that they yanked pidgin in favor of empathy.
[18:39] <DJones> SMiTTY: You can still install pidgin
[18:39] <darthanubis> SMiTTY, if it is in the repos, nothings been 'yanked'
[18:39] <bullhorn> empathy sucks
[18:39] <zim> SMiTTY: apt-get install
[18:39] <SMiTTY> empathy is lacking OCS support. and considering 90% of the company is MS based :)
[18:39] <burntash> ks3: still saying not ecrypted private directory is not setup properly
[18:39] <MBD123> I need some help installing fonts. I tried all of the methods in the forum thread about the topic, but nothing worked. I'm using Jaunty
[18:39] <seena> darthanubis, I mean, do I need to reinstall ubuntu or Network Manager
[18:39] <KurtKraut> SMiTTY, what is 'OCS'?
[18:39] <darthanubis> !fonts | MBD123
[18:39] <ripps> mikebeecham: the notify-osd is smaller than compared to jaunty, but this is on purpose, in order to make it more compatible with netbook versions
[18:39] <SMiTTY> yea I still got pidgin :)   just lousy that I have to run 2 clients
[18:39] <LjL> !ot | SMiTTY, KurtKraut
[18:39] <bullhorn> sudo apt-get purge empathy && apt-get install pidgin   --- is this a correct string?
[18:40] <p31181-irc> this trouble is: i have 2 machines with jaunty, both with AMD Athlon x64 architecture, and wtith Mozilla Firefox accordingly. On 1st computer i haven't any troubles, but on 2nd i can't see videos from www.intuit.ru. From Youtube it works correctly... How can i solve this problem?
[18:40] <GilJ> Where can I learn more about creating icon sets for Gnome?
[18:40] <darthanubis> seena, there is no way to tell for sure based on the information you have conveyed
[18:40] <KrisDouglas> gnome-look.org GilJ
[18:40] <mikebeecham> ripps: nope...this is VERY small...when using rhythmbox, I cannot see the text at all when the track changes, and the album art is VERY small also
[18:40] <looook> does using sudo have the same effect as logging into ubuntu as root and doing your work?
[18:40] <GilJ> Thanks KrisDouglas
[18:40] <seena> darthanubis, could you please send me the command to just install Network Manager.
[18:40] <ChogyDan> bullhorn: second apt-get still needs sudo
[18:40] <erUSUL> !sudo | looook
[18:40] <SMiTTY> LjL, Ummmm it was related to the NEW ubuntu.
[18:40] <seena> darthanubis, alright let me tell you what happened
[18:40] <darthanubis> seena, but the networkmanager is not the issue. YOU removing the indicator applet and not being able to put it back IS
[18:40] <Wolfcastle> hello
[18:40] <ripps> mikebeecham: *shrugs* trying filing a bug report. `ubuntu-bug notify-osd`
[18:41] <LjL> SMiTTY: err, and?
[18:41] <Wolfcastle> how do I upgrade from jaunty to koala?
[18:41] <LjL> !upgrade | Wolfcastle
[18:41] <burntash> ks3: theres this, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory#Recovering%20Your%20Data%20Manually   but i dont know if thatll ever let me automount or do anything other than look at the data in a Private folder
[18:41] <darthanubis> seena, I'm done with your issue as it is a waste of time. Sorry.
[18:41] <carresmd> since when doesn't 'build-essential' install with 'devscripts' and/or 'ubuntu-dev-tools'?!
[18:41] <ripps> Wolfcastle: should be a notice in upgrade-manager
[18:41] <zurek22> how do i set up apache2
[18:41] <pablo__> I have a e6400 laptop with an NVIDA quadro NVS 160m and is looks like there are not dirviers for the 64bit 9.10 release? am i missing something here?
[18:41] <ortsvorsteher> !lamp
[18:41] <seena> darthanubis, ok thank you for your support
[18:41] <carresmd> as a dependency
[18:41] <Wolfcastle> thanx
[18:41] <mikebeecham> ripps: just figured it...Karmix does not like you using half point font sizes
[18:41] <darthanubis> zurek22, read the manual
[18:41] <Wolfcastle> haven't seen any notice
[18:41] <ctmjr> !panels | seena
[18:41] <Wolfcastle> impressive amount of users in this channel
[18:42] <mattwj2002> !koala
[18:42] <KurtKraut> Wolfcastle, all mirrors are very busy at the momment. I suggest you to wait your Ubuntu to offer you an upgrade and them accept it.
[18:42] <armence> Hey all, ubuntu just suddenly went to the CLI, displayed: "Checking Battery State" and then I was logged out...
[18:42] <MBD123> Is'nt msttcorefonts just a package containing fonts? If so, that won't work. I have about 52 fonts that I got from various places on the internet
[18:42] <SMiTTY> LjL, it had to do with the new ubuntu and something being removed and for your to blindly have the bot to tell me to take it elsewhere is just silly
[18:42] <hajmola> Wolfcastle, it gets flooded whenever there's a new release
[18:42] <zurek22> thanks
[18:42] <darthanubis> ctmjr, you watched this go on for almost an hour ;) and had that cmd at the ready?
[18:42] <ctmjr> seena: then log out and log back in
[18:42] <Wolfcastle> makes sence
[18:42] <ks3> burntash: It looks like I also have a ~/.ecryptfs/Private.sig, but I'm not sure how that gets generated
[18:42] <carresmd> since when doesn't 'build-essential' install with 'devscripts' and/or 'ubuntu-dev-tools'?!
[18:42] <kitply> Wolfcastle: I just got the notice now. I m using kubuntu.
[18:42] <carresmd> as a dependency
[18:42] <ks3> burntash: It looks like that page just goes over manually mounting the directory once
[18:42] <LjL> SMiTTY: this channel is for ubuntu support questions and answers, not for *discussion* about ubuntu, old or new, so i beg to differ. there is #ubuntu-offtopic and #ubuntu-release-party for random discussion and criticism, thank you.
[18:43] <isola73dsh33p> how can i upgrade to 9.10 via torrent? Because my update manager somehow could not connect to the internet. :/
[18:43] <uniq_user> http://it.releases.ubuntu.com/9.10/ubuntu-9.10-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent   Completed!
[18:43] <Wolfcastle> kitply: the notice appeared just when i got you're message
[18:43] <MBD123> Okay, nevermind. I think I figured it out
[18:43] <darthanubis> isola73dsh33p, lol, really? via torrent??
[18:43] <SMiTTY> isola73dsh33p, if you are behind a proxy, the update manager flat out doesn't work
[18:43] <LjL> isola73dsh33p: you really should get it to connect, you won't be able to make a decent update otherwise
[18:43] <Wolfcastle> Thanx I'm off updating then
[18:43] <ctmjr> darthanubis: no i just came in and scrolled back and saw ou telling someone you would not help them
[18:43] <carresmd> the mirrors are slow as hell...
[18:43] <SMiTTY> isola73dsh33p, you need to get the alternate cd and do the upgrade that way.
[18:43] <kitply> Wolfcastle: yeah. go ahead and all the best
[18:43] <burntash> ks3: it looks like when you run ecryptfs-setup-private, Write the passphrase signature to ~/.ecryptfs/Private.sig
[18:44] <Wolfcastle> thanx
[18:44] <Snicksie> hm, little problem :) my ubuntu just changed it's settings of the compizconfig. i didn't say him to do, but yet i lost my effects ;) is there a simple way to get them back and/or know why it dit?
[18:44] <isola73dsh33p> how? I'm new to this
[18:44] <burntash> ks3: is your .sig file encrypted or can you see whats written in there
[18:44] <carresmd> '$ sudo aptitude update' takes ages :-(
[18:44] <darthanubis> ctmjr, lol, thats all you got out of that. Guess your scroll did not catch much
[18:44] <darthanubis> ;/
[18:44] <ripps> darthanubis: I think there was something called apt-torrent, but this isn't the place to be talking about it
[18:44] <frostburn> is there a list of deprecated packages somewhere so that i may remove them manually before the upgrade?
[18:44] <darthanubis> ripps, I've seen that, cool
[18:44] <isola73dsh33p> I get this error --> Could not download the release notes
[18:44] <euxneks> carresmd: the servers are probably bogged down with downloads
[18:44] <seena> ubottu, nothing is happening, its not resetting to my previous settings
[18:44] <crippler> Does Karmic install grub2 or give you a choice to keep grub?
[18:44] <pablo__> I have a Dell e6400 laptop with an NVIDA quadro NVS 160m and is looks like there are no dirvers for the 64bit 9.10 release? am i missing something here?
[18:44] <SMiTTY> isola73dsh33p, download the alternate cd via torrent or straight iso....either way, once you have the iso, mount it up and start your upgrade
[18:44] <bullhorn> how can i do more than 1 operation in the terminal at once?
[18:44] <_PiLoT_> hey, is the no way to request a cd of the ntbook remix
[18:44] <euxneks> carresmd: latest ubuntu was just released you know ;)
[18:44] <bullhorn> is this right:
[18:44] <bullhorn> sudo apt-get purge empathy && apt-get install pidgin  ?
[18:44] <KurtKraut> carresmd,  all mirrors are very busy at the momment. I suggest you to wait your Ubuntu to offer you an upgrade and them accept it instead of forcing an upgrade right now. If you already started an upgrade, you can abort it safely during the download phase.
[18:45] <ks3> burntash: It looks to be some type of signature of the passphrase, but it looks like it get created automatically by several of the ecryptfs utilities
[18:45] <scyx> hi, can anyone link me to info about how the new startup stuff works in karmic? i need to run a script before the networkmanager kicks in and rc.local doesn't work for that anymore
[18:45] <darthanubis> ctmjr, oh look, she is talking to the bot now. Goodluck with that.
[18:45] <isola73dsh33p> SMiTTY, i'll try that now
[18:45] <ripps> Snicksie: unfortunately, unless you exported your settings to a file, you'll probably have to reset them manually
[18:45] <SMiTTY> isola73dsh33p, once you get the iso to your box do the following
[18:45] <SMiTTY> sudo mount -o loop ubuntu-9.10-alternate-amd64.iso /media/cdrom0
[18:45] <ks3> burntash: Perhaps try logging off and back on to see if it gets mounted on logon? Perhaps the ecryptfs-mount-private is looking specifically for a ~/Private directory.
[18:45] <SMiTTY> sudo /media/cdrom0/cdromupgrade
[18:45] <spider> when burning ubunto do i need to burn a single disc image, or create the disk from the contents?
[18:45] <CWinLx> anyone here a member of magnatune.com ????
[18:45] <carresmd> KurtKraut, I'm on karmic (final) since 13:00 UTC ;-)
[18:45] <LjL> !ot | CWinLx
[18:45] <mikebeecham> second issue...I have upgraded to Karmic, and now I have two lots of each of my SMB shares listed under My Places...does anyone know why?
[18:45] <ctmjr> !attitude | darthanubis
[18:45] <RobLikesBrunch> Flash has no sound for me, it didn't in 9.04 and still doesn't in 9.10. To get my audio card to work, I had to install ASLA 1.0.21 and run kmix and output it to headphones. Does anyone have any idea what to do?
[18:46] <armence> OK, something happened, the screen went black and then I was logged out... Is there a way to check if I screwed something up or if I dunno... Something happened that I should report as a bug etc... ?
[18:46] <Snicksie> ripps, settings are alright, if i see compizconfig-settings manager, but they're kinda gone. where could be the prob? ;)
[18:46] <SMiTTY> I just finished doing it that way since I'm behind a proxy....after much digging, it turns out that the update manager refuses to use the site-wide proxy
[18:46] <darthanubis> ctmjr, try to scare someone else
[18:46] <Maleko> oh nice. they finally got rid of pidgin and replaced it with an excellent im client, empathy. never really like pidgin actually so im glad that its now gone
[18:46] <_PiLoT_> will putting the dekstop edition on a netbook make any diffrence???
[18:46] <Q_Continuum_> nick Q_Continuum
[18:46] <Zzeiss> spider: the .iso file is a disk image- it gets burned as a disk image, not a file to be put on the disk.  The .iso format is special that way.
[18:46] <ripps> Snicksie: compizconfig-settings manager isn't installed by default
[18:46] <The_Jag1> LjL: is there a way to backup my entire home folder? I keep getting error on using cp command to copy it to external HDD
[18:46] <ks3> burntash: Actually, looking through the ecryptfs-mount-private, it does look like it has ~/Private hard-coded
[18:46] <GibbaTheHutt> anyone know a page for 64bit release, main site only shows me 32 bit for some reason
[18:47] <LjL> The_Jag1: what sort of errors?
[18:47] <darthanubis> GibbaTheHutt, it is there
[18:47] <isola73dsh33p> I should download the alternate install CD right? Not the server install CD. Am I right?
[18:47] <spider> Zzeiss: ok. just because i got a popup asking me that.
[18:47] <Snicksie> ripps, i know, it is installed in fact, but it doesn't work atm, NOTHING changed, pretty weird -.-
[18:47] <Pilou> hello world
[18:47] <LjL> isola73dsh33p: if you want to use it to upgrade, yes
[18:47] <SMiTTY> isola73dsh33p, correct
[18:47] <Andre> hello
[18:47] <Pilou> you speak about 9.10 ?
[18:47] <Zzeiss> spider: OK then!  Burn as a disk image and you're good to go.  :)
[18:47] <GibbaTheHutt> darthanubis, it only gives option of 32bit, as though its somehow detected what I want
[18:47] <K0BA> just tried to disable touchpad in bios but couldn't find any relevant options :(
[18:47] <LjL> isola73dsh33p: but it's still very unlikely that you'll be able to upgrade using only that cd, without internet connection to APT
[18:47] <_PiLoT_> will putting the desktop edition on a netbook make a difference???
[18:47] <seena> ubottu, i log out and log back in. Still not should any defaults
[18:47] <carresmd> can someone check if 'build-essential' is listed among the packages to be installed when you do '$ sudo aptitude install devscript ubuntu-dev-tools'??
[18:47] <LjL> !hi | pilou
[18:48] <darthanubis> GibbaTheHutt, it should allow you to change that
[18:48] <spiraliz_> K0BA, read the manual for your comp
[18:48] <burntash> ks3: id guess that in that sig file is passphrase and cipher type etc
[18:48] <KrisDouglas> seena ubottu us a robot :P
[18:48] <The_Jag1> LjL: cannot copy folder xxxxxxx the file exist
[18:48] <SMiTTY> isola73dsh33p, http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
[18:48] <isola73dsh33p> LjL, then how can i connect to the internet?
[18:48] <Pilou> hi LjL and ubottu
[18:48] <LjL> The_Jag1: err, what command did you type?
[18:48] <SMiTTY> that states what I just told ya :) and it works flawless
[18:48] <spider> Zzeiss: OK :)
[18:48] <p31181-irc> may i repeat my question about flash? I have 2 machines with jaunty, both with AMD Athlon x64 architecture, and wtith Mozilla Firefox accordingly. On 1st computer i haven't any troubles, but on 2nd i can't see videos from www.intuit.ru. From Youtube it works correctly... How can i solve this problem on 2nd PC? Should i install addition packages ?
[18:48] <darthanubis> GibbaTheHutt, ohh your right
[18:48] <scyx> hey, can anyone link me to info about how the new upstart stuff works in karmic? i need to run a script before the networkmanager kicks in and rc.local doesn't work for that anymore
[18:48] <p31181-irc> may i repeat my question about flash? I have 2 machines with jaunty, both with AMD Athlon x64 architecture, and wtith Mozilla Firefox accordingly. On 1st computer i haven't any troubles, but on 2nd i can't see videos from www.intuit.ru. From Youtube it works correctly... How can i solve this problem on 2nd PC? Should i install addition packages ?
[18:48] <LjL> isola73dsh33p: i'm sorry, i don't know... are you behind a proxy maybe?
[18:48] <The_Jag1> LjL: i just do: sudo cp -r /home/fabio /media/HDD
[18:48] <seena> KrisDouglas, oh ok. I am sorry, I am new this thankyou
[18:48] <ripps> Snicksie: are you sure your using compiz, or just metacity with compositin?
[18:48] <Q_Continuum> With 9.10, any known issues with Radeon graphics for booting off the base disk? (I put desktop-i386 on a USB drive) and have NO display after the boot menu.  (Radeon HD3200, Radeon HD4850)
[18:49] <CWinLx> does anyone know the name of an audio channel?
[18:49] <darthanubis> GibbaTheHutt, Alternative download options, including Ubuntu installer for Windows click that dude
[18:49] <nellmathew> how exactly do i add these new "ppa:" to software sources?
[18:49] <SMiTTY> isola73dsh33p, once you do the upgrade you can do an apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[18:49] <isola73dsh33p> LjL, i'm not using proxy. :/
[18:49] <RobLikesBrunch> I updated to 9.10, did a clean install.
[18:49] <RobLikesBrunch> Installed flash via Adobe's official alpha version of x64 flash.
[18:49] <RobLikesBrunch> Installed Alsa 1.0.21 to get my soundcard to work, then used KMIX to select the "headphone" channel from my audio card.
[18:49] <RobLikesBrunch> Sound STILL doesn't work.
[18:49] <Snicksie> ripps, it's compiz, im sure
[18:49] <FloodBot1> RobLikesBrunch: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:49] <LjL> The_Jag1: that error sounds like thre is already some stuff with the same names as the stuff in your home in /media/HDD
[18:49] <SMiTTY> isola73dsh33p, I assume you are behind a proxy?
[18:49] <RobLikesBrunch> Didn't mean to flood, sorry D:
[18:49] <K0BA> hehe, the manual? that got lost years ago! i'll see if i can find info on interweb. the touchpad only screws up when i force alsa to reload so that i can actually have sound, i;ve no idea what's going on. might try and have a clean install of karmic to see if that'll work.
[18:49] <darthanubis> nellmathew, you add them to your source list like the PPA tell you
[18:49] <carresmd> Q_Continuum, no problems here with a HD4890 (via USB)
[18:49] <LjL> The_Jag1: try « cp -a /home/fabio /media/HDD/fabio-backup » instead
[18:49] <_PiLoT_> will putting the desktop edition on a netbook make a difference
[18:49] <spiraliz_> K0BA, download it
[18:49] <darthanubis> !repositories | nellmathew
[18:50] <The_Jag1> LjL: impossible that HDD is clean! what -a stands for?
[18:50] <isola73dsh33p> SMiTTY, i am not behind proxy. Its a direct wireless connection
[18:50] <SMiTTY> isola73dsh33p, if you aren't behind a proxy then you should be able to upgrade no problem.
[18:50] <GibbaTheHutt> darthanubis, aha thanks!
[18:50] <LjL> The_Jag1: like "-r", but does other useful things. "man cp" for info about it
[18:50] <darthanubis> GibbaTheHutt, ;)
[18:50] <Scunizi> Does an extended partition have to be mounted before the partitions below it can be mounted?
[18:50] <SMiTTY> isola73dsh33p, you must have another issue...you can try to run strace against update manger and see where it's being caught up
[18:50] <darthanubis> Scunizi, of course
[18:50] <The_Jag1> LjL: ok I try
[18:50] <isola73dsh33p> SMiTTY, strace?
[18:51] <movela> hello all.. sorry to bother but why are my ubuntu-restricted-extras pkgs installing but stuck at 51%??
[18:51] <ericz> so, i upgraded to 9.10 with the update-manager on xubuntu, and a reboot gives me a busybox shell
[18:51] <atarimoe> where can I find a list of mirrors for the new release?
[18:51] <SMiTTY> isola73dsh33p, or try kicking off some tcpdumps to see where it's trying to connect and failing
[18:51] <movela> can someone please seeeed//
[18:51] <pablo__> I have a Dell e6400 laptop with an NVIDA quadro NVS 160m and is looks like there are no dirvers for the 64bit 9.10 release? am i missing something here?
[18:51] <KrisDouglas> movela, probably because of heavy server use its being slow
[18:51] <_PiLoT_> does anyone know if putting the desktop edition on a netbook will make a difference
[18:51] <carresmd> Scunizi, no it isn't
[18:51] <Andre> does ubuntu automatically create swap partition while installing. i chose the option to use all the hd and replace my old os.
[18:51] <ripps> ericz: servers are probably being hosed
[18:51] <KrisDouglas> Pablo__ they may not have been released yet, check the nvidia website
[18:51] <_Sih> I just installed Karmic and now it doesn't suggest any restricted drivers for my nVidia card in the manager.
[18:51] <carresmd> Scunizi, no you don't have to ;
[18:51] <movela> KrisDouglas: is there an alternate site to download the pkg itself?
[18:51] <SMiTTY> isola73dsh33p, strace  traces system calls and signals....great for troubleshooting things behind the scenes
[18:51] <isola73dsh33p> SMiTTY, how can i do that? Btw, initially I can download the updates, but after like 300++ files, the connection dead
[18:51] <ericz> ripps: i already upgraded, it rebooted t the end like it was successful, and i got a busybox shell
[18:52] <ubuntu-> movela, ipv4 or ipv6 ?
[18:52] <spiraliz_> Andre, it should do if you used the auto partition option
[18:52] <carresmd> can someone check if 'build-essential' is listed among the packages to be installed when you do '$ sudo aptitude install devscript ubuntu-dev-tools'??
[18:52] <ericz> it's broken badly, like won't boot
[18:52] <ripps> ericz: sorry meant for somebody else
[18:52] <ericz> ripps: ah k
[18:52] <Andre> ok ty spiraliz
[18:52] <zim> what has happened to menu.lst under /boot/grub
[18:52] <KrisDouglas> movela nvidia website has .run files which you execute on most linux machines
[18:52] <movela> ubuntu i don't know. i just installed it 64bit ubuntu
[18:52] <_PiLoT_> does anyone know if the desktop edition will cause issues on a netbook machine
[18:53] <brandonban6> Zzeiss, it's looking like a corrupted HDD. Able to boot live mint 7, but drive won't mount due to bad superblock.
[18:53] <spiraliz_> Andre, cat /etc/fstab in a terminal should show your partitions
[18:53] <ripps> _PiLoT_: desktop version will probably be harder to use on a netbook
[18:53] <KrisDouglas> _PiLoT_ not at all, will run fine
[18:53] <carresmd> zim, karmic has switched to grub2
[18:53] <SMiTTY> isola73dsh33p, strace /usr/bin/python2.6 /usr/bin/update-manager  from a teminal window
[18:53] <nellmathew> _PiLoT, no, you'll be fine. I'm using network
[18:53] <nellmathew> netbook*
[18:53] <SMiTTY> something like that anyhow
[18:53] <KrisDouglas> Just without the UNR interface
[18:53] <_PiLoT_> so why is there a netbook remix douglas??
[18:53] <zim> carresmd: what do i edit?
[18:53] <DasEi> carresmd: couldn't find devsript (on karmic)
[18:53] <KrisDouglas> SSimplified interface for netbooks, makes it more usable
[18:54] <nellmathew> _PiLoT, just for convenience
[18:54] <burntash> rs3: do you think if i manually recovered like in that link ,i could decrypt the partition to a normal one
[18:54] <The_Jag1> LjL: wow that is what I call a loads of errors: mostly "cannot keep owner info of file xxxx, action not permitted"
[18:54] <Zzeiss> brandonban6: Uh-oh.  Can you boot a LiveCD and then run smartmon on it to see if the HDA itself knows if it's failed?  You might well be in the market for a new HDA.  Good thing terabyte HDAs are so cheap now. :)
[18:54] <kalywayH> can grub 2 boot iso from hard drive?
[18:54] <carresmd> DasEi, sorry it's devscripts
[18:54] <edi_x_1> hi all
[18:54] <kalywayH> i heard something like that
[18:54] <edi_x_1> could someone help me with a really quick question?
[18:54] <kalywayH> yeah
[18:55] <isola73dsh33p> SMiTTY, done it, it's a long list. I'm not sure what to do with the results :/
[18:55] <ripps> !ask | edi_x_1
[18:55] <zim> where do you edit grub2 options?
[18:55] <AlDoug> For some reason I can't enable mod_rewrite. I get this error when I restart apache:
[18:55] <AlDoug> Syntax error on line 3 of /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/mysite:
[18:55] <AlDoug> Invalid command 'RewriteEngine', perhaps misspelled or defined by a module not included in the server configuration
[18:55] <AlDoug> I have this as my sites available file:
[18:55] <carresmd> zim, I have no idea actually :-(
[18:55] <FloodBot1> AlDoug: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:55] <AlDoug> http://pastie.org/675524
[18:55] <jezlee> does anyone know the MD5 Sum of the ubuntu 9.10 desktop ISO ?
[18:55] <AlDoug> I'm sorry - it wasn't supposed to come out like that... :(
[18:55] <kalywayH> jezlee its on the site you downloaded from
[18:55] <DasEi> carresmd: http://paste.ubuntu.com/304485/
[18:55] <ks3> burntash: You could mount the partition to a temporary spot and copy data off
[18:55] <_PiLoT_> hhmmm seems theres no way to request a UNR cd
[18:55] <kalywayH> !md5
[18:55] <donavan_> trying to clean out some extra junk do i need language-selector ?
[18:56] <SMiTTY> hehe...it takes a big scroll back buffer....not knowing your issue, you'd just have to look and see if something jumps out. With it being able to get 300+ files, it says that your net is working and there may be some sort of timeout with you connection.
[18:56] <isola73dsh33p> SMiTTY, is this might be the cause --> stat64("/etc/apt/apt.conf", 0xbfeaee74) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
[18:56] <edi_x_1> makes sense! :)  Ok so I have just uninstalled wine and a shortcut to one of the programs is still in the netbook launcher.  Could someone point me at the location of the shortcut files so that I can delete it manually?
[18:56] <carresmd> DasEi, thank man! :-)
[18:56] <SMiTTY> isola73dsh33p, you should have an apt.conf :)
[18:56] <spiraliz_> zim,  /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[18:56] <burntash> ks3: yea, problem is the partition is 200GB lol i don thave that kinda freespace lying around to copy to or i would
[18:56] <LjL> The_Jag1: that would be understandable if you're copying to NTFS or FAT
[18:57] <zim> spiraliz_: ty
[18:57] <SMiTTY> isola73dsh33p, well I do...it only has my proxy info in it though
[18:57] <gt11> Hello! How do I change Ubuntu 9.10 to use my resolv.conf instead of Network Managers?
[18:57] <carresmd> anyone still on jaunty and willing to test something for me?
[18:57] <isola73dsh33p> SMiTTY, i'm not using proxy, so i wouldn't needing it right?
[18:57] <snot> carresmd: what?
[18:57] <RobLikesBrunch> Can someone please help me with getting sound to work for flash?
[18:57] <burntash> rs3: is it possible to rename .Private to like oldprivate and then run the ecrypt-setup-private with the same passphrase to get that sig file, and then delete the new .private and replace it with the old one
[18:57] <ks3> burntash: Gotcha. Well, I think the setup is good to go once you logoff or reboot.
[18:58] <kalywayH> !flash
[18:58] <ks3> burntash: I don't know of a way to dynamically decrypt everything in place.
[18:58] <The_Jag1> LjL: it's FAT bc I need to keep it handy for Win machines also :(
[18:58] <SMiTTY> isola73dsh33p, prob not
[18:58] <LjL> The_Jag1: you really shouldn't use a FAT drive to backup home to.
[18:58] <KrisDouglas> !gnash
[18:58] <carresmd> snot, run '$ sudo aptitude install devscripts ubuntu-dev-tools' and check if 'build-essential' is among the packages to be installed
[18:58] <darthanubis> WOW! torrents are WICKED fast!
[18:59] <darthanubis> just started and I'll have me iso in 13minutes!
[18:59] <LjL> The_Jag1: a better idea would be to *tar* home to the fat drive. "tar | grep cf"
[18:59] <edi_x_1> can someone tell me where shortcut files are stored please?
[18:59] <isola73dsh33p> SMiTTY, maybe the reason i got this problem is because I done the upgrades partially. Maybe the upgrade manager didn't restore the original states :/
[18:59] <RobLikesBrunch> Can someone please help me getting flash to work on my x64 installation? I have no sound when a video plays.
[18:59] <commander_> does anyone use empathy IM ? i rather use Pidgin Empathy is not so user friendly
[19:00] <bostongeek24> where can i get torrents of ubuntu?
[19:00] <burntash> rs3: unfortunately when i reboot it still isnt decrypting it on login
[19:00] <katycorp1> Can anyone give me info on how an upgrade handles video drivers? Will it uninstall existing drivers?
[19:00] <nellmathew> is the keyserver down for anyone else? (gpg: keyserver.ubuntu.com ?..)
[19:00] <defrysk> commander_, then use pidgin , ,sudo apt-get.....
[19:00] <SMiTTY> isola73dsh33p, could be....if you can grab the alternate cd I think you'll be good. Do the upgrade from cd and when it asks about the net say no. Once complete, reboot and do an apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[19:00] <ripps> edi_x_1: well, I know that panel launchers are stored in .gnome2/panel.d/default, but I don't know where shortcuts are stored in unr
[19:00] <zaoul1> what is the other program similar to tilda?
[19:00] <The_Jag1> LjL: sorry to sound noob but can you tell me the exact command for that. sorry :(
[19:00] <RobLikesBrunch> Can someone please help me fix my no-sound issue with x64 Adobe Flash?
[19:00] <bostongeek24> hello??
[19:00] <zaoul1> !ask
[19:00] <darthanubis> RobLikesBrunch, truthfully Rob, uninstall flash from Ubuntu and download and use Adobe's flash ofr 64bit
[19:00] <commander_> i am ....empathy doesn't show avatars
[19:00] <zim> I have a problem with this line in my grub.cnf on two diff laptops if I remove it they boot fine. What is it for and can I just delete it?  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set 2806f658-0935-46c4-b088-630a6a2d3edd
[19:00] <bostongeek24> HELLO!!!!
[19:00] <RobLikesBrunch> darthanubis: Done.
[19:00] <SMiTTY> isola73dsh33p, it worked flawless for me.....9.10 does seem to run a bit faster than 9.04
[19:01] <edi_x_1> ripps: thanks, I'll at least check the .gnome folders!  didn;t even really know where to start! :)
[19:01] <RobLikesBrunch> Darthanubis: I've tried installing flash every way possible, I did a clean install of 9.10 and installed the Alpha version of flash from Adobe's website. Still nothing.
[19:01] <darthanubis> RobLikesBrunch, extract the plugin to ~./mozilla/plugins
[19:01] <bostongeek24> hello???????
[19:01] <zaoul1> bostongeek24: check yourself
[19:01] <RobLikesBrunch> Darthanubis: I already did.
[19:01] <RobLikesBrunch> Darthanubis: Flash works, there's just no sound.
[19:01] <bostongeek24> can someone help me
[19:01] <DasEi> bostongeek24: we can read you
[19:01] <Scunizi> carresmd: sorry I missed your post but you are correct.. it's not necessary to mount the extended partition to get to the partitions below it.
[19:01] <RobLikesBrunch> Darthanubis: I think it has to do with my unconventional audio-card uninstallation.
[19:01] <darthanubis> RobLikesBrunch, make SURe no other flash/gnash packages from Ubuntu is installed on your system
[19:01] <isola73dsh33p> SMiTTY, ok, i'll just wait for the download to finish. Thanks for your help :)
[19:01] <ripps> !ask | bostongeek24
[19:01] <zaoul1> bostongeek24: ever heard of this thing called... 'google' ?
[19:01] <RobLikesBrunch> Darthanubis: I did a clean install, I'm 100% sure there isn't one.
[19:01] <bostongeek24> iam
[19:02] <bostongeek24> i didn't findit
[19:02] <LjL> The_Jag1: something like "tar -cf /media/HDD/homebackup.tar /home/fabio", but don't quote me on that.
[19:02] <SMiTTY> isola73dsh33p, no worries. Sorry I couldn't find another way for ya.
[19:02] <sudobash> are there any major fixes from ubuntu 9.10 to today's release?
[19:02] <bostongeek24> rude
[19:02] <carresmd> Scunizi, no problem
[19:02] <ripps> !google | zaoul1
[19:02] <hexa-> Results for | zaoul1 on Google:
[19:02] <hexa-> --
[19:02] <sudobash> ubuntu 9.10 BETA
[19:02] <RobLikesBrunch> Darthanubus, But to get my audio card to work, I had to install ALSA 1.0.21, and then...because my audio card has multiple outputs, I had to install Kmix to select the correct one.
[19:02] <zaoul1> ripps: no.. direct that to bostongeek24
[19:02] <darthanubis> RobLikesBrunch, use gnome-alsamixer to adjust sound
[19:02] <RobLikesBrunch> Darthanubus, sound works, though...just not with flash.
[19:02] <isola73dsh33p> SMiTTY, its okay :D
[19:02] <IdleOne> zaoul: please don't tell people to google. We are here to help, if you don't know the answer then don't say anything
[19:02] <ciastek> where can i find official karmic artwork - cd cover?
[19:02] <The_Jag1> LjL: ok
[19:03] <RobLikesBrunch> darthanubis: let me see if that works. One moment.
[19:03] <zaoul1> IdleOne: help != hand holding
[19:03] <carresmd> snot, run '$ sudo aptitude install devscripts ubuntu-dev-tools' and check if 'build-essential' is among the packages to be installed
[19:03] <darthanubis> RobLikesBrunch, I had tha before. Close Firefox, killall -9 pulseaudio, restart pulseaudio via alt-f2 then reopen youtube
[19:03] <Jordan_U> zim: Can you pastebin the output of "blkid" ?
[19:03] <Daimonic> Hey, I have installed Ubuntu 9.10. It comes with Grub2, doesn't it? Now I want the graphical OS selection menu, however this seems to be not installed, what package do you suggest? :)
[19:03] <phphorse> hi, my apache2 is not displaying automaticaly the index.html when I'm switching to a folder? where can I edit that?
[19:03] <zaoul1> hand holding cost money
[19:03] <IdleOne> zaoul1: yes, we hand hold. RTFM is for those other distros that aren't #1 on distrowatch
[19:03] <Bob> f
[19:04] <aleron> what did they add to karmic koala
[19:04] <ripps> zaoul1: the support channel is here for hand holding, if you don't like it, go be a jerk elsewhere
[19:04] <snot> carresmd: I already have build-essential installed
[19:04] <RobLikesBrunch> darthanubis, still doesn't work.
[19:04] <SuperDefenderX> Hey, I thought Empathy had video and audio?
[19:05] <zaoul1> lawls
[19:05] <carresmd> snot, ah.. too bad
[19:05] <snot> carresmd: but 2 sec. I'll uninstall
[19:05] <Daimonic> Empathy doesn't got my empathy
[19:05] <_syntax_> How do you get adobe flash player installed on ubuntu 9.10
[19:05] <carresmd> snot, if it isn't too much to ask from you :-)
[19:05] <gt11> Why does sudo apt-get download too slow?
[19:05] <gt11> That's because of overloaded servers?
[19:05] <zaoul1> have fun ;-D
[19:05] <aj_444>  _syntax_: the adobe website.
[19:05] <ripps> SuperDefenderX: it does, but you have to use a service that supports it, like google talk
[19:05] <darthanubis> RobLikesBrunch, :((
[19:05] <llua> help :{ , http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1304744
[19:05] <Daimonic> Hey, I have installed Ubuntu 9.10. It comes with Grub2, doesn't it? Now I want the graphical OS selection menu, however this seems to be not installed, what package do you suggest? :)
[19:05] <snot> carresmd: np
[19:05] <SuperDefenderX> MSN  supports it.
[19:05] <SMiTTY> _syntax_, sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[19:05] <zim> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/m53e2f315
[19:05] <RobLikesBrunch> darthanubis: When I open gnome-alsamixer...nothing happens?
[19:05] <d0wn> Is there any way I can download 9.10 onto my desktop, and then upgrade my 9.04 on my laptop to 9.10 over the network from my desktop?
[19:06] <katycorp1> Does anyone know how the upgrade deals with video drivers? Right now I use the proprietary ATI driver (it works better than anything else, although it still doesn't play nice with compiz) and it needs to be recompiled/reinstalled with every kernel change. I'm wondering if I should uninstall before the upgrade and then use the generic driver until I can get the ATI one.
[19:06] <_syntax_> thx
[19:06] <darthanubis> RobLikesBrunch, 'nothing" that can't be good
[19:06] <heroid> karmic sux! gNS rulz!
[19:06] <zaoul1> d0wn: slightly complicated... you would be looking into PXE booting
[19:06] <miromanyth> Could someone suggest a sega genesis emulator?
[19:06] <snot> The following NEW packages will be installed: bsd-mailx{a} build-essential{a} devscripts diffstat{a} dpkg-dev{a}
[19:06] <ripps> katycorp1: it will probably be uninstalled anyway, but doesn't hurt to uninstall beforehand
[19:06] <dserodio> katycorp1: that's probably safer, I've been bitten by upgrades using proprietary video drivers before
[19:06] <snot> carresmd: ^^
[19:06] <zaoul1> d0wn: well..
[19:07] <zaoul1> d0wn: you should be able to run a command to upgrade
[19:07] <carresmd> snot, that isn't with the command: '$ sudo aptitude install devscripts ubuntu-dev-tools'
[19:07] <AlDoug> Is there a way to create a launcher that runs the command as root?
[19:07] <paolo> list
[19:07] <ripps> miromanyth: dgen maybe?
[19:07] <paolo> !list
[19:07] <carresmd> snot, or is it?
[19:07] <zaoul1> d0wn: update-manager -d possibly ?
[19:07] <snot> carresmd: yes
[19:08] <ks3> burntash: Try creating ~/Private and run ecryptfs-mount-private, hopefully that will give more info
[19:08] <snot> snot@snot:~$ sudo aptitude install devscripts ubuntu-dev-tools
[19:08] <snot> carresmd: there
[19:08] <d0wn> zaoul1: well, I was going to download the iso onto my desktop with bittorrent, so I could just upgrade from that and avoid the overloaded servers. i'll just wait it out :D
[19:08] <zim> Jordan_U: sorry did you get that ? http://pastebin.com/m53e2f315
[19:08] <katycorp1> dserodio, ripps: thanks
[19:08] <SMiTTY> AlDoug, you should be able to set up a launcher and use gksudo....this is what I do for my VPNC   gksudo /usr/bin/kvpnc
[19:08] <h4f2> is there a possibility to upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10 trough torrents ?
[19:08] <carresmd> snot, ok.. thanks!!
[19:08] <nellmathew> does apt-key adv --recv-keys keep timing out for anyone else? been bout 3 hours now.. can i use another mirror somewhere?
[19:08] <snot> carresmd: yw
[19:08] <Jordan_U_> zim: Can you open a grub shell with "sudo grub-emu" and in it run "search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set 2806f658-0935-46c4-b088-630a6a2d3edd" then "echo $root" ?
[19:08] <SMiTTY> h4f2, no
[19:08] <carresmd> snot, now I have to find a karmic RC user ^^
[19:08] <Daimonic> Hey, I have installed Ubuntu 9.10. It comes with Grub2, doesn't it? Now I want the graphical OS selection menu, however this seems to be not installed, what package do you suggest? :)
[19:08] <carresmd> anyone still on karmic RC?
[19:09] <zaoul1> AlDoug: yea.. check out gksudo or gsu
[19:09] <ripps> !final | carresmd
[19:09] <zaoul1> AlDoug: i mean gksu... they are the same thing
[19:09] <carresmd> ripps, sssshhh
[19:09] <ikonia> h4f2: no
[19:09] <ripps> carresmd: all rc users are now final automatically
[19:09] <snot> carresmd: gl :)
[19:09] <Daimonic> What package to get gfx support for Grub2 ?
[19:09] <zim> Jordan_U_ just installing it
[19:10] <carresmd> ripps, ah.. sorry :-).. But with some luck I might find someone
[19:10] <burntash> ks3: not setup properly
[19:10] <snot> carresmd: I'm actually sitting right next to one but if I ask he will know that I*m not doing our assignemtn... sorry :)
[19:10] <carresmd> snot, lol!
[19:10] <carresmd> snot, no problem ;-)
[19:10] <thorre> just installed 9.10. Now a program called Palimpset reports that the SMART sensor of my HDD is reporting a high (183 Sectors) "Reallocated Sectors Count. The HDD is 1TB.
[19:10] <ripps> carresmd: why, there's practially no difference between rc and final, just a few tweaked packages
[19:10] <burntash> ks3: whats odd is when i do 'keyctl show' i dont see anything in there about the passphrase i entered
[19:11] <snot> carresmd: kvm or xen might be an option
[19:11] <burntash> even though it said added to session keyring
[19:11] <thorre> i have run a proggie from the manufactorer which reports no errors at all. 9.04 did not report any errors either
[19:11] <SMiTTY> stay away from xen :)
[19:11] <SuperDefenderX> IS anyone else having issues with slow DNS resolution with 9.10?
[19:11] <ks3> burntash: It looks like ecryptfs-mount-private does look for the Private.sig file....
[19:11] <carresmd> ripps, I'm trying to figure out why 'build-essential' isn't a dependency of devscripts and / or ubuntu-dev-tools.. it was in RC
[19:11] <MK13> is this way the suggested way to move /home to it's own partition? http://embraceubuntu.com/2006/01/29/move-home-to-its-own-partition/
[19:11] <SMiTTY> kvm is gaining more and more support and has been getting lots of dev cycles.
[19:11] <burntash> ks3: yea, seems like it
[19:11] <carresmd> snot, I know.. but this is easier ;-)
[19:11] <crippler> any1 here use Clonezilla?
[19:12] <jcdutton> thorre, try "smartctl -a /dev/sda"
[19:12] <IdleOne> !home | MK13
[19:12] <spider> hi guys; need some help. I'm currently have vista and ubuntu 8.10. Im installing 9.10 now (fresh install) and would like it to replace my 8.10. So in the partition stage i chose manual and checked format. But then i get this error: No root file system is defined. What should i do?
[19:12] <Jordan_U_> !home | MK13
[19:12] <saxofoner> can someone go to musictheory.net, pick any one of the lessons, and tell me if the forward arrow in the flash app works?
[19:12] <saxofoner> it doesn't for me with the flash plugin in karmic
[19:12] <MK13> IdleOne, Jordan_U_ , thnx
[19:12] <Wiseman1> virtualbox question:  I'm running windows 7 in virtualbox, how do I transfer files from 7 back to linux?
[19:13] <Jordan_U_> spider: You need to select the partition you want for Ubuntu to be installed to and set its mountpoint to "/"
[19:13] <Q_Continuum> I 'upgrade' by doing a fresh install on a new HD (will be 9.10) then copy over my /home folder (from 9.04) anything that got moved automagically by the upgrade, that I'll have to manually do?
[19:13] <SuperDefenderX> Spider: click on "edit partition" and select "/" as the partition you want to install the Linux OS
[19:13] <thorre> jcdutton: which package do i have to install to get smartctl?
[19:13] <spiraliz_> spider, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowtoPartition
[19:13] <MK13> IdleOne,  what would be your suggested size of the home partition?
[19:13] <mk_> ubuntu.com is down?
[19:13] <jcdutton> thorre, smartmontools
[19:13] <ks3> burntash: Aha... if we get the mount passphrase in your keyring, the signature can be found with 'keyctl show'
[19:13] <Wiseman1> for whatever reason utorrent works on this network in windows but not in linux, and I want to download some stuff
[19:13] <thorre> jcdutton: never mind, found it
[19:13] <MK13> mk_, not for me
[19:14] <Wiseman1> But I don't know how to transfer back and forth
[19:14] <ripps> carresmd: was it mentioned in the changelog? /usr/share/doc/build-essential/changelog.gz
[19:14] <dehaani> I was expecting 9.10 by now :(
[19:14] <burntash> ks3: yea right now its not showing anything in there other than a keyring for _ses
[19:14] <MK13> mk_, here http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/
[19:14] <AlDoug> zaoul1: thanks!
[19:14] <ripps> carresmd: my build-essential hasn't been changed since july, so this isn't an rc issue
[19:14] <jcdutton> thorre, it is a command line tool, but at least it shows you what the drive is inself reporting. Any value >0 is bad news
[19:14] <zim> Jordan_U_: do I echo root there or in bash
[19:14] <spider> SuperDefenderX: so for the "mount" section i need to choose "/" ?
[19:15] <Jordan_U_> zim: There
[19:15] <ks3> burntash: Try 'ecryptfs-insert-wrapped-passphrase-into-keyring'
[19:15] <zim> hd0,1
[19:15] <jcdutton> spider, yes, that will identify the "root" partition
[19:15] <mk_> MK13: it's down ... here
[19:15] <carresmd> ripps, no it isn't mentioned and this version is from july as well.. perhaps something changed in devscripts or ubuntu-dev-tools
[19:15] <SuperDefenderX> Spider: Yep.
[19:15] <mk_> =/
[19:15] <zim> Jordan_U_: hd0,1
[19:15] <ampex> any advice on 32 vs 64-bit for a laptop with 4gb of memory?
[19:15] <burntash> ks3: problem with that is you have to include the 'ecryptfs_insert_wrapped_passphrase_into_keyring ~/.ecryptfs/wrapped-
[19:15] <burntash> passphrase LOGIN_PASSPHRASE'
[19:15] <spider>  jcdutton, SuperDefenderX: cool thanks
[19:16] <ripps> carresmd: or one of the depends in build-essential pulled in devscipts
[19:16] <thorre> jcdutton: isnt it normal for a disk that is that large to have some bad sectors?
[19:16] <uvacav> is there any way to make empathy aim messages pop-up? They just sit in the indicator applet thing
[19:16] <mk_> where i can get ubuntu 9.10?
[19:16] <Genscher> wow, what a great work on ubuntu 9.10
[19:16] <gnac__> what does ubuntu use during the installation process if one selects to encrypt the users home directory?  i.e. how would I set up new users in a similar fashion?
[19:16] <jcdutton> thorre, a new HD should have a value of zero.
[19:16] <zim> Jordan_U_: http://pastebin.com/m186debfc updated
[19:16] <gnac__> ^ using 9.10 ^
[19:16] <MK13> mk_, http://mira.sunsite.utk.edu/ubuntu-releases/karmic/ubuntu-9.10-desktop-amd64.iso
[19:16] <CaveMan> Alloha people!
[19:16] <mk_> any torrents?
[19:16] <dehaani> why isn't apt-get update/upgrade giving me anything new today?
[19:16] <MK13> mk_, that is the 64 bit version though
[19:17] <ubuntu-> mk_: ubuntu.com
[19:17] <RobLikesBrunch> How do I uninstall flash if I installed it from the official adobe site?
[19:17] <CaveMan> why is ubuntu down???????
[19:17] <dehaani> gb.archive.ubuntu.com
[19:17] <CaveMan> i wanna install ubuntuuuuuuuu
[19:17] <tmx> whats your argument of 9.10
[19:17] <ks3> burntash: It should prompt for the login passphrase (or whatever passphrase you used when we generated the wrapped passphrase)
[19:17] <CaveMan> plsssssss
[19:17] <Pici> CaveMan: Its hammered from all the people trying to download.
[19:17] <Pici> !torrents | CaveMan
[19:17]  * Genscher is happy user of the netbook edition
[19:17] <RobLikesBrunch> darthanubis, how do I uninstall my current installation of flash?
[19:17] <Genscher> :)
[19:17] <jcdutton> thorre, the factory low level format will have handled problem ones at the manufacturing stages
[19:17] <CaveMan> Pici, there are no bugs in ubuntu so they keep the website offline?????
[19:18] <dehaani> hasn't 9.10 found it's way to gb.archive.ubuntu.com?
[19:18] <scyx> how do i switch to the classic desktop on 9.10 netbook remix? =/ desktop-switcher doesn't seem to be there..
[19:18] <carresmd> ripps, http://paste.ubuntu.com/304504/
[19:18] <jcdutton> thorre, the smartctl value should be zero as the drive leaves the factory
[19:18] <carresmd> ripps, dating back from may 2008..
[19:18] <RobLikesBrunch> How do I uninstall flash if I installed the Alpha x64 version from Adobe's site?
[19:18] <RPG_Master> How do I backup my Accounts, mail, and address book in Evolution?
[19:18] <zim> Jordan_U_: was that a fix or just info gathering?
[19:18] <CaveMan> people, i have the asus EEE Box should i download the ubuntu nettop-edition?
[19:18] <thorre> jcdutton: im in the progress of installing the smarttools but my machine is a bit slow now since i am restoring a backup at the same time after the 9.10 installation
[19:18] <mk_> MK13: tnks
[19:19] <mk_> ubuntu-: ubuntu.com is down for me
[19:19] <dehaani> hasn't 9.10 found it's way to gb.archive.ubuntu.com?
[19:19] <MK13> mk_, for the link?
[19:19] <snot> same here, ubuntu.com is down
[19:19] <jcdutton> thorre, you could give the restore lower priority
[19:19] <CaveMan> i think ubuntu 9.10 is released to early
[19:19] <CaveMan> maybe there are some hidden bugs in it
[19:19] <mk_> MK13: the links ok, i'm download it right now!
[19:19] <warriorforgod> Can anyone point me to a good document telling me how to filter messages out of rsyslog?  I tried an if/then expression but it leaves the messages in messages.
[19:19] <mk_> MK13: =]
[19:20] <RobLikesBrunch> How do I uninstall flash if I installed the Alpha x64 version from Adobe's site?
[19:20] <christoph3141> Hi! Currently, I'm upgrading to karmic. The dowload process takes *really* long, as download speed is just about 200 kB/s. Usually, my Internet downstream is more than three times that much.
[19:20] <jcdutton> CaveMan, Have you found any?
[19:20] <carresmd> ripps, maybe I'm just imagining stuff :-(
[19:20] <burntash> rs3: when i did ecryptfs-wrap-passphrase ~/.ecryptfs/wrapped-passphrase, it asks Passphrase to wrap: and then Wrapping passphrase:, so do you put the passphrase twice?
[19:20] <MK13> mk_, and you use the 64bit version?
[19:20] <CaveMan> jcdutton, no, but there are some
[19:20] <CaveMan> but that is NO shame
[19:20] <dehaani> ubuntu.com works for me
[19:20] <dehaani> hasn't 9.10 found it's way to gb.archive.ubuntu.com?
[19:20] <CaveMan> it is so many lines of code
[19:20] <Jordan_U1> zim: That looks right, do you get any error when you try to boot with the search line?
[19:20] <christoph3141> Can you somehow make it download faster?
[19:20] <CaveMan> i am also a n00b developer, i know how hard it is
[19:20] <xeemeex> ubuntu.com works now
[19:20] <mk_> MK13: no, i'm getting the 32 bits version
[19:20] <jcdutton> CaveMan, I have been using Karmic for the last 4 months
[19:20] <CaveMan> i work now for 10 months
[19:21] <zim> Jordan_U1: will try
[19:21] <burntash> ks3: because when i do the insert-wrapped-phrase, i get that its failed to unwrap the passphrase and inserting it into the user session
[19:21] <christoph3141> Or is it just a high server load with the solution being upgrading sometime next week?
[19:21] <mk_> MK13: http://mira.sunsite.utk.edu/ubuntu-releases/karmic/ubuntu-9.10-desktop-i386.iso
[19:21] <tmx> what you think about 9.10
[19:21] <CaveMan> ok jcdutton
[19:21] <thorre> jcdutton:   5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   096   096   036    Pre-fail  Always       -       183
[19:21] <Banane1> I love the Software center
[19:21] <carresmd> christoph3141, probably
[19:21] <mk_> MK13: it's for a friend, i'm a slacker =P
[19:21] <MK13> mk_ so you just modified my link, :D
[19:21] <CaveMan> i was using 2 years freebsd
[19:21] <RobLikesBrunch>  How do I uninstall flash if I installed the Alpha x64 version from Adobe's site?
[19:21] <CaveMan> i stepped back to ubuntu 8
[19:21] <wilu> why is my repos so slow even tho i use local area mirrors
[19:21] <wilu> it comes like 20k/sec
[19:21] <CaveMan> but i love ubuntu
[19:21] <christoph3141> carresmd: ok, too bad. Cause it says "About 4 hours remaining" :D
[19:21] <wilu> used to come 1.8Msec
[19:21] <mk_> MK13: yeah
[19:21] <Banane1> wilu maybe because many guys are using the serer atm
[19:22] <Banane1> server*
[19:22] <christoph3141> at just 150 kB/s :(
[19:22] <dehaani> ubuntu.com works for me
[19:22] <dehaani> hasn't 9.10 found it's way to gb.archive.ubuntu.com?
[19:22] <RLa> wilu, everyone is upgrading?
[19:22] <phil_fl> wilu: the repos are ok for me
[19:22] <wilu> Banane1: ok i tought about that
[19:22] <zim> Jordan_U1: nope still broken
[19:22] <jcdutton> thorre, If I was you, I would backup all your data and ask the company you brought the HD off for a replacement
[19:22] <nellmathew> ah you can no longer change the login-window themes?.. (ie: with arc-colors)
[19:22] <carresmd> christoph3141, maybe you could search for a faster mirror
[19:22] <CaveMan> YES!!
[19:22] <Jordan_U1> zim: Do you get an error message?
[19:22] <wilu> but this slow? gosh
[19:22] <CaveMan> ubuntu is back online
[19:22] <yce> hi
[19:22] <wilu> what year is this
[19:22] <ks3> burntash: Then let's try regenerating the wrapped passphrase. 'ecryptfs-wrap-passphrase ~/.ecryptfs/wrapped-passphrase'. The first time it asks, use your mount passphrase, the 2nd time use your login passphrase.
[19:22] <christoph3141> carresmd: ok, I'll try aborting the upgrade and selecting a faster mirror then
[19:22] <thorre> jcdutton: i will do that, made a full backup just a few hours prior to the installation today ;)
[19:22] <CaveMan> i think the need to switch to Lighttpd instead of Apache
[19:22] <thorre> i will send them an email
[19:22] <ripps> dehaani: Don't know, mirror probably has trouble from everyone hosing the servers. Try a different mirror
[19:22] <Banane1> I upgraded with full speed ,ok i just have dsl 2000
[19:23] <MK13> RobLikesBrunch, rm ~/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so
[19:23] <carresmd> christoph3141, try System > Administration > Software Sources > Download from > Other > select best server
[19:23] <RobLikesBrunch> MK13 thank you.
[19:23] <thorre> jcdutton: the strange thing is that the windows diagnostics program did not find anything at all
[19:23] <matrix_> hey guys how to fix contrast on vlc player
[19:23] <phil_fl> wilu: maybe it is your connection change the repo, try something, I'm able to install packages as fast as usual
[19:23] <christoph3141> carresmd: I'm using kde
[19:23] <zim> yup: error: no such device: 28.......................... failed to boot default entry
[19:23] <CaveMan> 1.4 MB/S download here!!
[19:23] <lukasz> Is Karmick known to have problems with Alsa?
[19:23] <jcdutton> thorre, that 193 means that 193 sectors have silently been corrupted on your HD. You will not know which files have corrupted
[19:23] <commander_> what this means unable to unlock directory?
[19:23] <dehaani> if I download from a mirror, does it come in back to front? like big endian?
[19:23] <thorre> jcdutton: i am not talking about the built in one
[19:23] <zim> Jordan_U1:  yup: error: no such device: 28.......................... failed to boot default entry
[19:23] <MK13> RobLikesBrunch, all you did to install it was copy it into a folder right?
[19:23] <carresmd> christoph3141, ah can't help you with that then :-(
[19:23] <Noble> Where is the grub 2 menu.lst? :S
[19:23] <CaveMan> I GOT 3 WORDZ FOR YAH!!!
[19:23] <yce> hey, someone could help me with a problem in ubuntu, i cant get my wifi work
[19:23] <CaveMan> I
[19:23] <ripps> lukasz: linux in general is know to have problems with alsa
[19:23] <CaveMan> LOVE
[19:23] <FloodBot1> CaveMan: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:23] <CaveMan> THIS
[19:23] <CaveMan> COMPANY!!!!
[19:23] <dehaani> grub2 has a /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[19:24] <jcdutton> thorre, windows does not know what it is doing
[19:24] <zim> Noble: grub.cnf
[19:24] <pieterc> 4 words?
[19:24] <binMonkey> i pinned a bunch of packages using synaptic.  now when i try to update with aptitude it wants to update my pinned packages.  is there any way around this?
[19:24] <Noble> dehaani: ty
[19:24] <MK13> yce, install the drivers?
[19:24] <Banane1> But it shoudlnt be edited !
[19:24] <dehaani> but you have to edit the files in etc
[19:24] <nellmathew> wilu, it's release day.. servers are working to the best of their ability, bandwidth (close to a gig a person + i'm sure more than a million users..  a lot, even with the mirrors)
[19:24] <wilu> ok this is silly, playbackin HD its lagging
[19:24] <mk_> ubuntu.com is back
[19:24] <burntash> rs3: i did teh wrap phrase again, inserted the hex passphrase first, and then my login pass 2nd and im still getting the error on inserting it
[19:24] <VivaVista> is there something wrong with the ubuntu website?
[19:24] <mk_> finally
[19:24] <VivaVista> Or just overloaded?
[19:24] <carresmd> pieterc, I isn't actually a word
[19:24] <CaveMan> 24/7 i am drunk
[19:24] <ripps> VivaVista: probably just overloaded
[19:24] <scyx> how do i switch to the classic desktop on 9.10 netbook remix? =/ desktop-switcher doesn't seem to be there..
[19:24] <yce> MK13, i've already installed, but after restart it has been disappeard from the hardware drivers
[19:24] <FlyingFart> hi and help me please =< i just installed the newest ubuntu and the boot menu doesnt see windows 7! i also have installed windows xp he sees that 1 ubuntu is installed inside windows xp how do i get windows 7 in the boot menu back?
[19:24] <Tux_^> not able to access ubuntu :(
[19:24] <CaveMan> and that's why i use computers, so they do the thinking
[19:24] <zim> Noble: are you having probs with boot error?
[19:24] <pieterc> carresmd: yes it iz
[19:24] <FirstSgt> CaveMan: You're cool
[19:25] <Jordan_U1> zim: Strange, what is the output of "ls -l" in the grub-emu shell?
[19:25] <Stormx2> Hi. My "software sources" window won't close. hitting the close button does nothing. it doesn't give me the option to force quit...
[19:25] <CaveMan> Tux_^, i got 1.5 MB/s download from Ubuuntu
[19:25] <Noble> zim: Nah, got a new SSD today. Gonna replace my MBR
[19:25] <wilu> it should work i got enough memory and super computer still playback lags
[19:25] <MK13> yce, run the command "sudo iwconfig" does it show any devices?
[19:25] <ripps> FlyingFart: try installing os-prober and running update-gurb
[19:25] <CaveMan> lolz thanks FirstSgt
[19:25] <ripps> *update-grub
[19:25] <CaveMan> :P
[19:25] <binMonkey> i pinned a bunch of packages using synaptic.  now when i try to update with aptitude it wants to update my pinned packages.  is there any way around this?
[19:25] <Noble> zim, Installed 9.10 as a new thing, and could not find the menu file :p
[19:25] <Noble> zim, after all, it boots superfast
[19:25] <wilu> anyone?
[19:25] <FlyingFart> ripps did you talked to me?
[19:25] <carresmd> pieterc, no it is a character :-)
[19:25] <CaveMan> the first thing i do when i installed ubuntu is stripout the menu of grub with a hex-editor
[19:25] <Zzeiss> Noble: which one?  The Intel X25?  Those work great (for me, at least)
[19:25] <maddy83> I have a problem: I installed xubuntu on top of FreeBSD and now I have FreeBSD's bootloader appearing before GRUB. Any solution?
[19:25] <ripps> FlyingFart: yes
[19:26] <lubosz> hi
[19:26] <lubosz> how do i stop kvm in karmic?
[19:26] <jordo2323> Is there any good tutorial yet to upgrade to karmic?
[19:26] <dehaani> Zzeiss, why hex edit?
[19:26] <RobLikesBrunch> MK13, I don't remember where I copied it, but there's nothing there.
[19:26] <lubosz> sudo /etc/init.d/kvm stop does not work
[19:26] <nellmathew> karmic no longer supports GDM themes?
[19:26] <pieterc> carresmd: a character can't be a word? Yes it can
[19:26] <lubosz> stop kvm neither
[19:26] <VivaVista> Oh well, since Ubuntu is down might as well try Kubuntu
[19:26] <Noble> Zzeiss: Yeah, the x25 g2. Worth the money, cant tell yet :P
[19:26] <CaveMan> stripout the "press keys etc" things
[19:26] <FlyingFart> i downloaded boot manager he does the same? but he doesnt see it
[19:26] <carresmd> pieterc, nope
[19:26] <ks3> burntash: I get an error as well, but hopefully that's because I already have the key inserted
[19:26] <VivaVista> Kubuntu download server is also overloaded
[19:26] <FlyingFart> i dont know how to update grube manually
[19:26] <jcdutton> maddy83, you need to write a new partition boot sector. grub sits in the embedded area
[19:26] <Zzeiss> lubosz: As in "remove the module so you can run Virtualbox"?  Try "sudo rmmod kvm-intel"
[19:26] <arne_> anyone els having problems with ati drivers and ubuntu 9.10?
[19:27] <treble54> whats the command to output my video card information in the shell?
[19:27] <lubosz> Zzeiss: thx
[19:27] <MadnessRed> arne_ yes me too
[19:27] <RobLikesBrunch> MK13, I installed it to /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins
[19:27] <ripps> arne_: catalyst or opensource?
[19:27] <wildc4rd> evening all
[19:27] <CaveMan> but first
[19:27] <jcdutton> arne_, what sort of problems?
[19:27] <daleharvey> if I have intermittent stalls during installing from cd (after burning multiple cds) what should I be looking at?
[19:27] <euxneks> treble54: lspci | grep -i vga
[19:27] <euxneks> ?
[19:27] <euxneks> treble54: that may give you what you're looking for
[19:27] <MadnessRed> I have flickering with ati driver
[19:27] <MadnessRed> the restricted one
[19:27] <treble54> euxneks: thx
[19:27] <CaveMan> i was forgotten, before i install 9.10 i watch TUF season ten episode seven first on 9.04!
[19:27] <Jordan_U2> maddy83: If you have more than one drive check the boot order, otherwise install GRUB2 via http://grub.enbug.org/Grub2LiveCdInstallGuide
[19:27] <arne_> jcdutton, catalyst
[19:27] <helo> !torrents
[19:27] <jcdutton> daleharvey, sounds like faulty media
[19:27] <_polto_> hi
[19:27] <zim> Jordan_U1 or looks like Jordan_U2 now just rebooting without line to get in
[19:28] <daleharvey> it occasionally just stops at a flashing cursor, sometimes at the logo
[19:28] <sidewalk> so ubuntu.com went down? :-)
[19:28] <helo> apparently
[19:28] <tmx> jemand deutsch hier
[19:28] <jcdutton> arne_, why not use the non-catalyst drivers
[19:28] <MK13> RobLikesBrunch, then just delete the libflashplayer.so (or whatever it's name is) and it should uninstall it
[19:28] <helo> obviously linux is not ready for prime time...
[19:28] <Banane1> Tmx Ja ^^
[19:28] <wilu> hey please, how to run .matroska without lag in 9.10
[19:28] <daleharvey> jcdutton: yeh its a laptop so the cd drive is probably not the most
[19:28] <daleharvey> *best
[19:28] <RPG_Master> OK, I have backed up my entire Home folder. I'v read some stuff about the .folders not working because of permission stuff. Can I just use gksu nuatilus and change the permission?
[19:28] <wilu> using nvidia
[19:28] <tmx> was sind die entscheidenten unterschieder von 9.10 und 9.04 ?
[19:28] <carresmd> wilu, trying playing it via VLC
[19:28] <tmx> -r
[19:28] <arne_> jcdutton, how do i use the non catalyst?
[19:29] <wilu> carresmd: still lags
[19:29]  * RPG_Master is going to do a fresh install of 9.10
[19:29] <daleharvey> I used to be able to install through a network install, probably not possible right now?
[19:29] <Banane1> Ubuntu One, Grub 2, Ext4 als standard
[19:29] <scyx> how do i switch to the classic desktop on 9.10 netbook remix? =/ desktop-switcher doesn't seem to be there..
[19:29] <RPG_Master> so help me please :D
[19:29] <Banane1> Noch so einiges
[19:29] <FlyingFart> can someone please help me i am a beginner i dont understand it all how can i get windows 7 back in the boot menu =<
[19:29] <Bigshot_> guys guys i'd like to know if touchscreen works in Ubuntu OOTB does it?
[19:29] <mno> Empathy ....  why could this ever replace the stinkin pidgin?
[19:29] <carresmd> wilu, no excessive CPU usage while playing?
[19:29] <Banane1> Kernel 2.6.31
[19:29] <caty> Can people get on http://www.ubuntu.com? Thanks.
[19:29] <MK13> FlyingFart, it should be detected by grub automatically
[19:29] <wilu> carresmd: yep nope.. all good
[19:29] <FlyingFart> it didnt
[19:29] <dserodio> caty: yes
[19:29] <_polto_> I installed  and successfully used HARPIA on Ubuntu 9.10 32 bits, but on 64 bit version I have errors at execution : https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/harpia/+bug/463427
[19:29] <helo> why is the UNR only provided as a cdrom .iso, when there are no netbooks with cdrom drives?
[19:29] <wilu> carresmd: hmm this is weird
[19:29] <tmx> stabiler ?
[19:29] <h4f2> is there a difference in speed if I will upgrade from main or other server ?
[19:29] <jcdutton> arne_, install the package "xserver-xorg-video-ati"
[19:29] <mno> no ubuntu.com is down
[19:30] <dserodio> caty: http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/
[19:30] <Banane1> Ich finde es stabil
[19:30] <Banane1> Natürlich gibt es immer Fehler
[19:30] <carresmd> wilu, ?
[19:30] <_polto_> can somebody help to get HARPIA work on 64 bit Ubuntu 9.10 ?
[19:30] <h4f2> I am seeng it slow
[19:30] <Banane1> aber ich glaube im Moment ist 9.04 etwas stabiler
[19:30] <wilu> carresmd: yea in normal state it lags :( vlc
[19:30] <RobLikesBrunch> MK13, okay thanks...I uinstalled and reinstalled it.
[19:30] <Banane1> Das heißt aber nicht das Karmixc instabil ist
[19:30] <wilu> carresmd: using gnome
[19:30] <Banane1> Karmic*
[19:30] <RobLikesBrunch> MK13, still no sound though...ideas?
[19:30] <FlyingFart> the problem is that i had windows 7 already installed then i installed windows xp he doesnt see my windows 7 not then i hopped that when i installed the newest ubuntu he would have seen it
[19:30] <wilu> carresmd: sholid i put something in xorg.conf
[19:30] <FlyingFart> but it doesnt
[19:30] <arne_> jcdutton, and i will get compiz working with that driver?
[19:30] <jcdutton> arne_, or xserver-xorg-video-radeon or xserver-xorg-video-radeonhd  depending on your graphics card
[19:31] <Jordan_U2> zim: Even better if you can tell me the output from GRUB at boot rather than grub-emu
[19:31] <carresmd> wilu, probably not
[19:31] <mno> 99.9% uptime race @ubuntu.com
[19:31] <lukasz> the newset kernel in karmick doesn't recognize my audiocard properly
[19:31] <dserodio> oops. it's ubuntu.com is actually down
[19:31] <MK13> RobLikesBrunch, nope, sorry
[19:31] <tmx> bis für 9.10 die ersten updates drausen sind
[19:31] <Tux_^> anyone able to ping ubuntu.com
[19:31] <jcdutton> arne_, I don't know regarding compiz
[19:31] <phil_fl> dserodio: works for me
[19:31] <jcdutton> arne_, try it and see.
[19:31] <MK13> i think it is funny how much more active this channel gets after a new version :D
[19:31] <ploj> i hit refresh once and it loaded
[19:31] <Banane1> @tmx Das System updatet ständig bis die ersten Bugfixes draußen sind dauert es bestimmt nicht mehr lange
[19:31] <ripps> lukasz: try filing a bug report `ubuntu-bug pulseaudio`
[19:31] <matrix_> hey guys something wrong with my contrast, every time i shutdown my pc my contrast get screwed up on mplayer
[19:31] <Zzeiss> What's the command to generate an xorg.conf file, so you can mung it?
[19:31] <carresmd> wilu, try this command '$ gstreamer-properties' and go to the video tab.. try changing the plugin for 'Default Output'. It might help
[19:31] <Noble> HOLY SHIT, takes under 10 sec to boot the new 9.10 with my SSD. Kewl!
[19:31] <burntash> ks3: when i did add ecrypt-add-passphrase ,and entered my 32 hexidecimal character passphrase, it said it was added to the session key ring and then it gave me a 12 character hex phrase.  should that be getting used for the wrapping passphrase?
[19:32] <tmx> ah ok nicht schlecht
[19:32] <knoxville> Good evening guys!
[19:32] <lukasz> ripps: You mean, on launchpad?
[19:32] <Zzeiss> Noble: yep.  That's par fo rthe course.
[19:32] <ripps> lukasz: ubuntu-bug is a script that will automatically gather all your hardware and software info and help you create a bug report.
[19:32] <Noble> Zzeiss, this is fucking awesome
[19:32] <zim> Jordan_U http://paste.ubuntu.com/304510/
[19:32] <Noble> Now the bios is the slow guy
[19:32] <Noble> haha
[19:32] <FlyingFart> can someone please help me with my boor menu problem?
[19:32] <Noble> lol
[19:32] <Banane1> xD
[19:32] <lukasz> ok
[19:32] <Pici> !language
[19:32] <FlyingFart> *boot
[19:32] <Zzeiss> Noble: With tweaks,you can boot in under five seconds (mostly getting rid of time-waits for things like "wait for user to hit return" and disk spinup)
[19:33] <lukasz> ripps: thank you
[19:33] <zim> Jordan_U what do I need to do
[19:33] <RPG_Master> OK, I have backed up my entire Home folder. I'v read some stuff about the .folders not working because of permission stuff. Can I just use gksu nuatilus and change the permission?
[19:33]  * RPG_Master is going to do a fresh install of 9.10
[19:33] <ks3> burntash: That could be the sig? The sigs for my passphrases look to be 16 characters.
[19:33] <Noble> Zzeiss, go on..
[19:33] <chasity> I just installed 9.10, and it is saying that a hard drive is bad.....The drive is only 6 months old.......
[19:33] <RobLikesBrunch> MK13, do you have any idea how I can set the default card for ALSA?
[19:33] <RLa> RPG_Master, yes
[19:33] <stinky> would nyone happen to know how I can install KDE without messing up my applications menu? I saw a script a year or so ago, does anyone remember the name of the script? or have a good way to install KDE that does not mess up my applications menu? TIA :)
[19:33] <Flannel> FlyingFart: Verify that 7 and XP are both installed.  XP may have wiped out 7.
[19:33] <RPG_Master> RLa: Thanks :)
[19:33] <burntash> rs3: when i do add-passphrase, it sends back "Inserted auth tok with sig [12character hex here] into the user session keyring"
[19:33] <MK13> RobLikesBrunch, i have never had experience with that
[19:33] <matrix_> hey guys something wrong with my contrast, every time i shutdown my pc my contrast get screwed up on mplayer
[19:33] <Zzeiss> Noble: I don't know where those hide in 9.10, and I've forgotten exactly.  But you can do it.
[19:33] <RobLikesBrunch> Mk13, Alright, thanks anyway.
[19:34] <carresmd> RobLikesBrunch, disable the other one
[19:34] <FlyingFart> they are boot on a different partition windows xp with ubuntu inside it on on partition C:
[19:34] <ks3> burntash: See if that matches what shows up with keyctl show
[19:34] <burntash> rs3: oh excuse me not 12, it is infact 16 characters
[19:34] <Zzeiss> Noble: I know one is in grub.conf.
[19:34] <ring0> is there a way to finalize a disc after it has been burned?
[19:34] <Noble> Zzeiss, Yeah I see that a lot of stuff has changed in 9.10
[19:34] <stinky> matrix_, try running mplayer as root, then save your settings
[19:34] <MK13> RobLikesBrunch, no problem
[19:34] <Noble> Zzeiss, gonna take a bit getting used to
[19:34] <burntash> rs3: so maybe thats what i should use for the wrapping phrase?
[19:34] <knoxville> Is it possible to mod your GRUB dual boot loader, so it is graphical?
[19:34] <Noble> Zzeiss, had to manually edit GDM for instance. Not a big deal, but annoying.
[19:34] <RobLikesBrunch> carresmd, I don't have any other one...but I just wanted to see if there may be some problem there.
[19:34] <looonger> hi! what does ubuntu dvd contain? is it a live dvd?
[19:34] <scatterp> is there some way to do a secure shutdown such that memory is wiped ?
[19:34] <naxa> ahoy
[19:34] <ripps> knoxville: not easily
[19:34] <carresmd> RobLikesBrunch, ok.. may I ask what the problem is?
[19:34] <ks3> burntash: That should just need saved in ~/.ecryptfs/Private.sig
[19:35] <matrix_> stinky:how to save settings
[19:35] <RobLikesBrunch> carresmd, No sound in flash
[19:35] <ks3> burntash: Then try the ecryptfs-mount-private again
[19:35] <zim> Jordan_U_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/304510/ thats the grub-emu.
[19:35] <burntash> rs3: i have the original 32 character pass phrase, and then i have the 16 character sig thats inserted into the user session keyring, but when i type keyctl show, all i get is "-3 --alswrv 1000 1000 keyring: _ses"
[19:35] <naxa> xorg is using 75-80% of my cpu power. i do not have an ati card. "wtf"
[19:35] <RobLikesBrunch> carresmd, search it on the Ubuntu forums and you get thousands of posts, with no clear answer.
[19:35] <MK13> looonger, the normal CD contains a live environment, the alternate CD doesnt though
[19:35] <carresmd> RobLikesBrunch, i386 or amd64?
[19:35] <burntash> rs3: except nothing is creating that .sig
[19:35] <RobLikesBrunch> carresmd amd64
[19:35] <Noble> gn all
[19:35] <knoxville> ripps: alright, then do any of you guys have any advice for a new user? a guide to bring you into the unix world, terminal and such?
[19:35] <Flannel> FlyingFart: Did you use wubi to install Ubuntu?
[19:35] <FrankRoberts> hi guys i have installed the RC
[19:35] <wilu> carresmd: hmm still aint working
[19:35] <RobLikesBrunch> carresmd To get my sound card to work, I had to go through a bit of work
[19:35] <jbicha> knoxville: I think Ubuntu 10.04 will have a pretty grub
[19:36] <FrankRoberts> when can i update to the final?
[19:36] <ks3> burntash: No, echo the sig to the file.. echo 16charsig >~/.ecryptfs.Private.sig
[19:36] <looonger> MK13: I asked about the dvd, is it a live dvd?
[19:36] <FlyingFart> dont know i installed inside windows xp
[19:36] <RobLikesBrunch> carresmd: Had to install ALSA 1.0.21, then install KMIX to select the "headphone out" port on my audio card.
[19:36] <knoxville> jbicha: how many byte is it?
[19:36] <FlyingFart> just clicked next and put the password in
[19:36] <carresmd> RobLikesBrunch, are you using this flash plugin? http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashplayer10/libflashplayer-10.0.32.18.linux-x86_64.so.tar.gz
[19:36] <matrix_> stinky:http://www.pastebin.ca/1648248
[19:36] <ripps> !terminal | knoxville
[19:36] <RobLikesBrunch> carresmd, yes.
[19:37] <burntash> rs3: you mean echo 16charsig >~/.ecryptfs/Private.sig
[19:37] <phphorse> wich package contains the games, which are in ubuntu at the beginning?
[19:37] <chasity> This is what it says on the hard drive thing....is it a bug?? http://i37.tinypic.com/219vqyq.png the drive is really fairly new... I know that new can go bad though, just wondering if this is a common bug or somethign? Checked drive on XP and was fine, but I know that xp don't check same things...
[19:37] <Flannel> FlyingFart: Right.  That's wubi.  To boot Vista, you'll need to add it to your XP menu.  What happens is you boot XPs boot thing, and then can select XP or Linux, if you select Linux, you get to the GRUB menu, but I don't believe that can boot other stuff, since it's another layer removed already.
[19:37] <MK13> looonger, never seen the DVD
[19:37] <carresmd> RobLikesBrunch, what sound card or chip do you have?
[19:37] <Guest10568> people
[19:37] <ks3> burntash: Yeah, that's what I meant :)
[19:37] <matrix_> stinky:http://www.pastebin.ca/1648248
[19:37] <RobLikesBrunch> carresmd, I have an ASUS Xonar STX Essence.
[19:37] <tmx> @banane1 gibts ein programm mit dem ich die temperatur in meinem notebook überwachen kann ?
[19:37] <Guest10568> where is de MD5 hash of ubuntu-9.10-desktop-i386.iso
[19:37] <jbicha> knoxville: the Ubuntu prettied grub doesn't exist yet, come back in 6 months :-)
[19:37] <matrix_> are you there stinky
[19:37] <Guest10568> ????
[19:37] <carresmd> wilu, well them I'm out of ideas.. sorry
[19:37] <comicinker> ubuntu.com down?
[19:38] <ripps> !md5 | Guest10568
[19:38] <Guest10568> i got this result
[19:38] <Guest10568> 8790491bfa9d00f283ed9dd2d77b3906
[19:38] <docmax> hello, is there a ubuntu version WITHOUT GUI?
[19:38] <knoxville> jbicha: alright! :)
[19:38] <Guest10568> is this goed people??
[19:38] <burntash> rs3: after i did that echo, i did ecrypt-mount-private and now all of the encrypted files are in my /home/$USER
[19:38] <qwyeth> docmax, Ubuntu Server installs without X by default
[19:38] <RobLikesBrunch> carresmd, It uses an ASUS AV100
[19:38] <FlyingFart> the "layer: was removed by xp because he tought he was the only 1 on c:
[19:38] <comicinker> docmax: yes, the alternate version
[19:38] <CaveMan1> i am CaveMan
[19:38] <CaveMan1> wtf????
[19:38] <docmax> and is 9.04 -> 9.10 update running problem-free?
[19:38] <RobLikesBrunch> carresmd, Note that sound does work for everything else.
[19:38] <Leonardo-da-invi> i got a question
[19:38] <Flannel> docmax: Yes.  Alternate CD and server CD will let you install systems without GUIs
[19:38] <burntash> rs3: they are still all encrypted file names but they are in there
[19:38] <carresmd> RobLikesBrunch, noted ^^
[19:39] <Leonardo-da-invi> can I have latest ubuntu as domU guest on a Xen?
[19:39] <carresmd> RobLikesBrunch, you are on gnome or kde?
[19:39] <Leonardo-da-invi> can I have latest ubuntu as domU guest on a Xen?
[19:39] <Wo|f> Happy Release Day!
[19:39] <RobLikesBrunch> carresmd gnome
[19:39] <ks3> burntash: Well that doesn't seem right
[19:39] <docmax> cant find any "alternate versions"
[19:39] <Leonardo-da-invi> somebody answer me plz
[19:39] <Leonardo-da-invi> can I have latest ubuntu as domU guest on a Xen?
[19:39] <becco> ciao
[19:39] <docmax> just normal and server edition
[19:40] <becco> !list
[19:40] <carresmd> RobLikesBrunch, are you Treeh on the forums? :-)
[19:40] <qwyeth> !ask | Leonardo-da-invi
[19:40] <RobLikesBrunch> carresmd Yessir
[19:40] <marvit> Ciao a tutti
[19:40] <Leonardo-da-invi> can I have latest ubuntu as domU guest on a Xen?
[19:40] <RobLikesBrunch> carresmd Nice find :D
[19:40] <ikonia> Leonardo-da-invi: should be fine
[19:40] <comicinker> is ubuntu.com down?
[19:40] <matrix_> cany anyone help me hellooooooooooo
[19:40] <knoxville> Is there any way to upgrade from my current ubuntu version (9.04) to the latest (9.10) without download the whole iso file?
[19:40] <carresmd> RobLikesBrunch, you last post there is the same you told me a few minutes ago ;-)
[19:40] <Leonardo-da-invi> how to send private message here, newbee am I
[19:40] <zim> Jordan_U Jordan_U_ are you still here ?
[19:40] <tarakan> Hello! I'm having a problem with mysqld not starting after the upgrade to 9.10. dmesg return a series of messages like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/304514/ Anyone with a similar problem and aware of a workaround?
[19:41] <ZykoticK9> !patience | Leonardo-da-invi
[19:41] <carresmd> RobLikesBrunch, Installed Alsa 1.0.21 to get my soundcard to work, then used KMIX to select the "headphone" channel from my audio card.
[19:41] <FlyingFart> Flannel: do you know how i can resolve this ?
[19:41] <Jordan_U> zim, Can you try "ls -l" in real grub and see if it matches the output from grub-emu, specifically it should find hd0,1 and it's UUID should end in "edd"
[19:41] <docmax> cant  find "alternate" version of ubuntu... please help me
[19:41] <RobLikesBrunch> carresmd, I'm using every source I can.
[19:41] <Leonardo-da-invi> can I have latest ubuntu as domU guest on a Xen?
[19:41] <Jordan_U> !alternate | docmax
[19:41] <Yce52> Someone can help me with ubuntu 9.10 and hp 6735s' wifi to get it work? :) please
[19:41] <zim> Jordan_U ok will do
[19:41] <bmidgley2> are there ANY feisty mirrors around? I just need one package :(
[19:41] <carresmd> RobLikesBrunch, I can only encourage it ;-)
[19:42] <strix> comicinker: apparently - yes
[19:42] <naxa> my xorg is using 75% of the cpu....... help please :D
[19:42] <Flannel> FlyingFart: My suggestion is figure out how to get Vista into the XP boot menu (##windows may be able to help)
[19:42] <burntash> rs3: yea kinda weird...
[19:42] <knoxville> Any experienced Ubuntu user, who would like to give me a private session, in tips and tricks? :)
[19:42] <FlyingFart> k flannel
[19:42] <RobLikesBrunch> carresmd, Do you have any idea how to solve the problem?
[19:42] <FlyingFart> =<
[19:42] <matrix_> whats the commant to check HW_ACCEL ON XORG
[19:42] <matrix_> command
[19:42] <RobLikesBrunch> carresmd, I've asked loads of people and simply no one has a solution. It's extremely frustrating. :(
[19:43] <carresmd> RobLikesBrunch, I'm search google for some info.. We'll get it fixed somehow
[19:43] <CaveMan1> people people people, i have the asus eee box (mini desktop) shall i install ubuntu the netbookversion??
[19:43] <comicinker> knoxville: you are dreaming. the room is burning
[19:43] <Leonardo-da-invi> can I have latest ubuntu as domU guest on a Xen?
[19:43] <dooglus> bmidgley2: is this any good?  http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/7.04/
[19:43] <RobLikesBrunch> carresmd, fantastic, thanks a lot for your help.
[19:43] <Leonardo-da-invi> can I have latest ubuntu as domU guest on a Xen?
[19:43] <Jordan_U__> zim, Can you try "ls -l" in real grub and see if it matches the output from grub-emu, specifically it should find hd0,1 and it's UUID should end in "edd"
[19:43] <qwyeth> knoxville, if you tell us what you want to learn how to do we can help much more effectively in the channel because there are many of us, and also in the channel others get the benefit of our answers
[19:43] <matrix_> whats the command to check HW_ACCEL ON XORG
[19:43] <Yce52> Someone can help me with ubuntu 9.10 and hp 6735s' wifi to get it work? :) please
[19:43] <ripps> knoxville: try looking around the ubuntu forums, I think they have a forum specifically for tips and tricks
[19:43] <Leonardo-da-invi> can I have latest ubuntu as domU guest on a Xen?
[19:43] <knoxville> comicinker: I've noticed but it is hard to keep up! :)
[19:43] <ZykoticK9> !repeat | Leonardo-da-invi
[19:44] <ks3> burntash: It looks like Private.sig needs to contain two signatures... When you run keyctl show now, do you have two at the bottom w/ 16 character sigs on the right?
[19:44] <MarkAtwood> is keyserver.ubuntu.com down?
[19:44] <linuxnewbie> possible to lock firefox so that no one can close it?
[19:44] <ks3> burntash: Also, are the files encrypted, or just the file names?
[19:44] <Leonardo-da-invi> fine
[19:44] <burntash> rs3: when i type keyctl show, all i get is "-3 --alswrv 1000 1000 keyring: _ses"
[19:44] <Leonardo-da-invi> fine
[19:44] <Leonardo-da-invi> I will figure it out
[19:44] <knoxville> qwyeth: Just usefull information, like shortcuts for terminal, things people would suggest doing as a new user.
[19:44] <knoxville> ripps: thanks! :)
[19:44] <MadnessRed> Anyone know how to disable TV detection for an ATi card?
[19:44] <carresmd> RobLikesBrunch, there is a bug report.. Not much information though. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/438161
[19:44] <bmidgley2> dooglus, I think I can extract the packages I need... good idea
[19:44] <brennus> vote: upgrade or not?
[19:44] <burntash> ks3: when i do 'ls' i get a bunch of files that start with ECRYPTFS_FNEK_ENCRYPTED.giantlonghexstring
[19:45] <chasity> This is what it says on the hard drive thing....is it a bug?? http://i37.tinypic.com/219vqyq.png the drive is really fairly new... I know that new can go bad though, just wondering if this is a common bug or somethign? Checked drive on XP and was fine, but I know that xp don't check same things...
[19:45] <ripps> knoxville: a good websit is ubuntu-geek.com
[19:45] <qwyeth> linuxnewbie, R-kiosk might be what you're looking for
[19:45] <burntash> ks3: everything that was in ~/.Private is now in ~/
[19:45] <qwyeth> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1659
[19:45] <ks3> burntash: Yeah, that's the file name encryption. Pick one at random and see how it looks in gedit / vi / whatever
[19:45] <comicinker> knoxville: what tipps and tricks?
[19:45] <linuxnewbie> qwyeth: thanks!
[19:45] <zim> Jordan_U nope errors (shorthand) "dev hd0:part tab --> part hd0,1: filesys could not be accessed" same for fd0 then error: no such disk
[19:45] <shiftplusone> is it just me or is ubuntu.com down?
[19:46] <knoxville> Is it possible to update my current version of ubuntu (9.4) to the latest (9.10)
[19:46] <matrix_> is there way to update ubuntu or i need to downloaa iso
[19:46] <comicinker> shiftplusone: it's down
[19:46] <dooglus> bmidgley2: this may be better?  http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty/
[19:46] <RobLikesBrunch> carresmd, I got stuck with the sound card not working at all at first, but...after installing ALSA, it's perfect. ALSA supports it: http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Vendor-Asus
[19:46] <comicinker> knoxville: yes.
[19:46] <shiftplusone> comicinker, thanks.
[19:46] <ripps> !upgrade | knoxville
[19:46] <dabukalam> shiftplusone: it's just you
[19:46] <chasity> shiftplusone, it is down
[19:46] <matrix_> is there way to update ubuntu or i need to downloaa iso
[19:46] <RobLikesBrunch> carresmd, but that version of ALSA isn't included with Ubuntu...or at all (I'm unsure). All I know is that it works now after updating ALSA.
[19:46] <charnel> anyone installed a good mail server for local development in Jaunty ?
[19:46] <zim> shiftplusone: its down
[19:46] <matrix_> is there way to update ubuntu 9.10 or i need to downloaa iso
[19:46] <furuno> at least I'm on karmic :)
[19:46] <charnel> Php development
[19:46] <Pilou> no you can update with command
[19:46] <CaveMan1> People peopleeeeeeeee
[19:46] <Pilou> to get 9.10
[19:46] <carresmd> RobLikesBrunch, your on karmic right?
[19:46] <Yce52> Someone can help me with ubuntu 9.10 and hp 6735s' wifi to get it work? :)
[19:46] <CaveMan1> lalalalal lalalala
[19:47] <CaveMan1> i am so happie with ubuntuuuuuuuuu
[19:47] <legend2440> bmidgley2: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/
[19:47] <balla> ubuntu.com is offline
[19:47] <balla> ubuntu.com is offline
[19:47] <balla> ubuntu.com is offline
[19:47] <FloodBot1> balla: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:47] <Martyn1> www.ubuntu.com has crashed
[19:47] <RobLikesBrunch> carresmd, Yes...but sound didn't work on Jaunty either.
[19:47] <G4JC> hey all, do you know  where i can get the alternate install dvd of 9.10?
[19:47] <Martyn1> balla : Massive hits due to Karmic's release
[19:47] <balla> lame
[19:47] <Ileden> Quick question - What is the best way to duplicat entire large directory to another path? I assume rsync, but what parameters, and is there a way to monitor the progress, preferably with time estimate?
[19:47] <ejv> who cares if ubuntu.com has crashed...
[19:47] <CaveMan1> balla that is because ubuntu is soooooooo populair and the webserver is also apache
[19:47] <Martyn1> matrix_ : You can do a dist upgrade
[19:47] <CaveMan1> they must use Lighttpd
[19:47] <Martyn1> CaveMan1: They use lighttpd
[19:47] <matrix_> how
[19:48] <Pilou> go to ubuntu-fr
[19:48] <Pilou> :)
[19:48] <balla> was the traffic unexpected? it should have been anticipated. stupid ubuntu.....
[19:48] <CaveMan1> haha ok sorry Martyn1 :P
[19:48] <pbailey> ubuntu down ?
[19:48] <KnifeySpooney> Hey, where can I find a list of official torrents to download from? I want to add my own seed
[19:48] <knoxville> short restart.. brb
[19:48] <carresmd> RobLikesBrunch, according the link you gave me your sound card is supported since kernel 2.6.30, karmic runs kernel 2.6.31 (ALSA is part of the kernel)
[19:48] <Jordan_U1> zim: Interesting, try asking in #grub and mention the error that you get from ls.
[19:48] <burntash> rs3: they are too long to be able to vi one
[19:48] <K99Brain> Sorry for the stupid question, but someone know why women have everytime problems with partitions?
[19:48] <Martyn1> matrix_ : Go to system->Administration->Software Sources
[19:48] <comicinker> canonical crashed it's own server by releasing karmic. self destruction!
[19:48] <RobLikesBrunch> carresmd, well it didn't work initially....so I updated ALSA.
[19:48] <Tux_^> up it is down again
[19:48] <G4JC> balla: Use the Kuate (typo) mirror like me. xP Thank goodness for africans being up today...
[19:48] <Ed54> comicinker: use the torrent download
[19:48] <Martyn1> matrix_ : Select [updates] tab
[19:48] <Ed54> and seed
[19:48] <CaveMan1> people this CaveMan is leaving.....
[19:48] <Tux_^> strange that they did not anticipate the load
[19:48] <Tux_^> !!!
[19:49] <CaveMan1> see you later..... byeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[19:49] <ripps> balla: despite anyone's best preperation, even the richest company can't prepare for hundreds of thousands of users desending on your servers all at once
[19:49] <G4JC> balla: http://ubuntu.qualitynet.net/releases/karmic/ubuntu-9.10-desktop-i386.iso
[19:49] <dabukalam> !status
[19:49] <G4JC> ^_^
[19:49] <balla> http://mirrors.xmission.com/ubuntu-cd/9.10/ubuntu-9.10-desktop-i386.iso
[19:49] <balla> http://mirrors.xmission.com/ubuntu-cd/9.10/ubuntu-9.10-desktop-i386.iso
[19:49] <Tux_^> or Windows 7 is so bad all want to try out Ubuntu
[19:49] <dabukalam> !website
[19:49] <Martyn1> matrix_ : Then "Show new distribution releases", select "Normal Releases"
[19:49] <RobLikesBrunch> carresmd, I used this guide: http://www.webupd8.org/2009/08/how-to-upgrade-to-alsa-1020-on-ubuntu.html
[19:49] <charnel> xmail repository does not work
[19:49] <zim> Jordan_U1: ok ty for your help. Do I need that line. its a laptop so wont have any other disks?
[19:49] <qwyeth> ripps, google seems pretty good at that :D
[19:49] <dabukalam> Tux_^: Windows 7 is a huge improvement, but Ubuntu laughs in it's face
[19:49] <pw-toxic> hi, is there a possiblility to use 3 displays with an AIT onboard graphiccard and an NVIDIA grafic card with two DVI? it works on windows7
[19:49] <RobLikesBrunch> carresmd, except I used 1.0.21 links instead of 1.0.20
[19:49] <Pilou> or you can put update-manager
[19:49] <G4JC> gah I really need the ubuntu dvd, anyone? <--
[19:49] <Martyn1> matrix_ : Finally, you can either run the system update .. or run "aptitude update" and then "aptitude dist-upgrade"
[19:49] <Ccowboy> so the web site is down then?
[19:49] <ripps> qwyeth: even google has down times... rarely, but the alos have a million backup servers
[19:50] <Jeruvy> someone mentioned that hal_lpadmin had a bug still?
[19:50] <Jordan_U1> zim: You don't need that line, what it does is find your root partition by UUID in case the drive order changes
[19:50] <burntash> rs3: i VI'd one and its a buncha weird characters but there is some text that says AVI and vidsXVID so it must be a video file
[19:50] <matrix_> martyn1 i dont see that option
[19:50] <bmidgley2> dooglus, legend2440 excellent!
[19:50] <Tux_^> i am really surprised Ubuntu site is down
[19:50] <t2ttmp> has a mini iso appeard yet for 9.10 final ?
[19:50] <bmidgley2> I'm the only guy today not trying to get karmic
[19:50] <Martyn1> matrix : What release are you running?  Should have asked that first...
[19:50] <zim> Jordan_U1 so in a laptop that won't happen?
[19:50] <Martyn1> bmidgley2: I've been running ubuntu+1 as a developer for ages.
[19:50] <ks3> burntash: Okay, so the files are encrypted as well. What does 'keyctl show' give you now? Hopefully two useful sigs?
[19:50] <Pilou> you can write in your terminal update-manager -d
[19:50] <Martyn1> bmidgley2: So I guess I had the final release a couple days ago :)
[19:51] <bmidgley2> karmic prerelease on my alix access point is fun... hitting escape twice on the console kills mount-all and stops it cold
[19:51] <bmidgley2> when the console is in raw mode, eg in vi
[19:51] <bmidgley2> but who out there would hit escape twice in vi?
[19:51] <Pilou> matrix_ : in your terminal, write sudo update-manager -d
[19:52] <burntash> ks3: 'keyctl show' gives me just Session Keyring, and then -3 --alswrv 1000 1000 keyring: _ses
[19:52] <Pilou> it's faster
[19:52] <_empty> Hello, just installed Ubuntu 9.10 and verry impressed, is there anyplans on enable encrytion when installing ubuntu? I have been waiting for that feature.. :)
[19:52] <daleharvey> I remember you used to be able to use the ubuntu cd to boot, and press something that brought up a network install, you typed in some address / ip and it installed everything from online sources
[19:52] <ripps> !encrypt
[19:52] <daleharvey> is that still possible?
[19:52] <comicinker> _empty: it's already there!
[19:52] <tranta> hi all
[19:52] <ks3> burntash: Hmmm, so the keys are no longer in your keyring
[19:52] <ripps> _empty: yes, you can enable encryption when doing a fresh install
[19:52] <Pilou> h
[19:52] <Pilou> hi
[19:52] <scyx> does ANYONE use the karmic netbook remix? how can I switch to the classic desktop on NBR?
[19:52] <Tux_^> looks like Ubuntu site is back up
[19:52] <tranta> guys do u know what KDE is in BackTrack4 final ?
[19:53] <comicinker> scyx: metacity --replace ?
[19:53] <_empty> ripps: What?!
[19:53] <docmax> i cant find the non gui alternate version on website
[19:53] <_empty> comicinker: Are you sure?
[19:53] <ZykoticK9> Anyone know what happened to the pysol game in 9.10?  doesn't seem to be in the repo?
[19:53] <comicinker> _empty: yes
[19:53] <_empty> Tell me more please, did I miss this when installed?
[19:53] <varunthacker> i installed 9.10.my bootloader hasn't updated.how do i get the info. to add 9.10 to the menu.lst file?
[19:53] <ejv> encryption is available in 9.10, the ubuntu kernels come with pretty much all crypto-modules, twofish, aes, des, cbc, xts, etc
[19:53] <ripps> _empty: been there since last release, just works better in karmic
[19:53] <_polto_> somebody use harpia on 64 bit 9.10 ?
[19:53] <ks3> burntash: How about 'ecryptfs-unwrap-passphrase ~/.ecryptfs/wrapped-passphrase | keyctl padd user tempkey @u", then run keyctl show again
[19:54] <_empty> Oh, cool let me check!
[19:54] <ripps> !ecryption
[19:54] <comicinker> _empty: maybe it's not available in the alternate installer
[19:54] <Tohuw>  I'm having CUPS issues. All printers were working fine before, but now every job passes the queue and reports it printed, but nothing actually gets sent to the printer. Here's a log from my HP P1006 connected via USB: http://paste2.org/p/489965 Do lines 71-72 have anything to do with the issue, possibly? I'd be happy to provide further information, just let me know what helps. Thanks!
[19:54] <K99Brain> !encryption
[19:54] <burntash> ks3: i cant get into .ecryptfs anymore because .Private was mounted to my /home/$user
[19:54] <_empty> comicinker: Downloaded from ubuntu.com?
[19:54] <burntash> ks3: and when i try to ecrypt-umount-private i get fopen: no such file or directory
[19:54] <comicinker> _empty: yes
[19:55] <ks3> burntash: Sorry, replace ~/.ecryptfs with /var/lib/ecryptfs/$USER
[19:55] <K99Brain> !encrypted
[19:55] <scyx> comicinker: what's that supposed to do? i'd rather run compiz btw
[19:55] <K99Brain> got!
[19:55] <K99Brain> lol
[19:55] <ejv> encryption is available in 9.10, the ubuntu kernels come with pretty much all crypto-modules, twofish, aes, des, cbc, xts, etc < _empty , K99Brain , ripps
[19:55] <hgb21_> anyone here know a softare for cracking a wirless using Ubuntu ?
[19:55] <jk1> How is everyone finding the update jaunty -> karmic?
[19:55] <Arsin> Programs like firefox are slow anyone know why?
[19:55] <comicinker> scyx: it will replace the current window manager. if you prefere compiz, try compiz --replace
[19:55] <docmax> i cant find the non gui alternate version on website
[19:55] <jk1> aircrack
[19:56] <docmax> any help?
[19:56] <varunthacker> i installed 9.10.my bootloader hasn't updated.how do i get the info. to add 9.10 to the menu.lst file?
[19:56] <comicinker> docmax: it's the server edition
[19:56] <ripps> hgb21_: I'm not sure if we should be discussing that here, but I here aircrack works
[19:56] <Arsin> jk1: System > admin? Update manager
[19:56] <hgb21_> cool ...thax
[19:56] <Tohuw> jk1: hgb21_: Cracking software is not appropriate discussion for this channel.
[19:56] <qwyeth> !cracking | hgb21_
[19:56] <smacnay> is there some secret to getting vnc server to work from an ubuntu machine?  I cannot seem to access this machine with viangre or any other vnc/rdp client.
[19:56] <burntash> rs3: the only files in /var/lib/ecrypt/$USER/ are auto-mount, auto-umount, Private.mnt and Private.sig
[19:56] <scyx> comicinker: but will that help me with what i'm trying to do? switching from netbook-launcher to regular desktop and back?
[19:56] <_empty> comicinker and ripps, is it easy to setup in the ubuntu installer like debians one, or is alot of work?
[19:56] <jk1> No I mean was the process sucessfull, has anyone had problems?
[19:57] <LogicFan> Arsin, what do you mean?
[19:57] <comicinker> scyx: for the moment, yes. not after reboot
[19:57] <Tohuw>  I'm having CUPS issues. All printers were working fine before, but now every job passes the queue and reports it printed, but nothing actually gets sent to the printer. Here's a log from my HP P1006 connected via USB: http://paste2.org/p/489965 Do lines 71-72 have anything to do with the issue, possibly? I'd be happy to provide further information, just let me know what helps. Thanks!
[19:57] <docmax> comicinker, thanks
[19:57] <shiftplusone> ok ubuntu.com works again... was it just getting overloaded 'cause of karmic?
[19:57] <LogicFan> shiftplusone, yes
[19:57] <docmax> is 9.04 -> 9.10 update running problem-free?
[19:57] <ks3> burntash: That's odd... what happened to wrapped-passphrase? I guess we can regenerate it...
[19:57] <K99Brain> jk1, process of what?
[19:57] <burntash> rs3: i cleared, can you say that again
[19:57] <ejv> shiftplusone: i think you know the answer... lol
[19:57] <Tohuw> docmax: YMMV
[19:57] <shiftplusone> logankoester, ejv , fair enough, thank you. =)
[19:58] <scyx> comicinker: so what happened to desktop-switcher? otherwise i'm going to install the non-remixed ubuntu -the netbook-launcher is almost unusable, completely bugridden
[19:58] <K99Brain> jk1, if aircrack and similars are OT here, don't tell nothing more...
[19:58] <MadnessRed> how do I stop if from requesting a password when I mount a partition?
[19:58] <herenbdy> hello, I have ubuntu (karmic) set to restore my windows when I log in. I have 4 workspaces, and most of my windows don't reappear in the correct workspaec when I log in
[19:58] <herenbdy> anyone know how I can fix this?
[19:58] <comicinker> scyx: I don't know about desktop-switcher
[19:58] <feroxy> trying to upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10 - getting "could not download the release notes" in update manager. Is this just overload on servers?
[19:59] <docmax> Tohuw, YMMV?
[19:59] <Tohuw> feroxy: probably yes
[19:59] <Idhan> how can I configurate the ip to two computers connect with a lan cable
[19:59] <K99Brain> MadnessRed, add the users option in the fstab line
[19:59] <feroxy> ok
[19:59] <ks3> burntash: Not sure what happened to your wrapped passphrase. Regenerate it - ecryptfs-wrap-passphrase /var/lib/ecryptfs/$USER/wrapped-passphrase
[19:59] <ejv> MadnessRed: several ways, place it in fstab, or use sudo and add yourself to a nopass wheel
[19:59] <cws_> Hi, can anyone tell me how to disable my touchpad in ubuntu 9.10? synclient TouchpadOff=1 doesn't work, and it can't be disabled from 'System/Preferences/Mouse/Touchpad' :-(
[19:59] <RimFrost> hello all,  just update to Ubuntu 9.10 in 9.04 it did work to make Ubuntu shutdown direct and not the 60 second thing  does it work in 9.10 also?
[19:59] <MadnessRed> which of those would you recoment?
[19:59] <MadnessRed> recomend#
[19:59] <Tohuw> docmax: Your Mileage May Vary. Trouble-free upgrade for me may not be for you. Just because one person had a good experience doesn't mean yours will be as smooth. All you can do is read up on it, backup, and try it and see.
[19:59] <Idhan> how can I configurate the ip of two computers connected with a lan cable
[20:00] <yoritomo> hello all
[20:00] <varunthacker> how to add information to menu.lst to add 9.10 to the old grub list?
[20:00] <Tohuw> !doesntwork | RimFrost
[20:00] <daleharvey> I remember you used to be able to use the ubuntu cd to boot, and press something that brought up a network install, you typed in some address / ip and it installed everything from online, is that still possible
[20:00] <daleharvey> ?
[20:00] <Genscher> ah, any update on things why broadcom wireless (43xx) doesn't work out of the box anymore in 9.10? ;)
[20:00] <docmax> Tohuw, ah thanks... have to remebemer the YMMV short =)
[20:00] <Tohuw> Idhan: gnome-network-manager
[20:00] <daleharvey> apparently my cd drive is screwd
[20:00] <drubin> Any one know why ubuntu remix doesn't have a jigdo download?
[20:01] <augcampos> Hi there does anyone have problens in karmic qith module sky2
[20:01] <daleharvey> *screwed
[20:01] <_empty> comicinker: Are you sure about encrytion? Is it only for server version?
[20:01] <ejv> MadnessRed: that I can't answer, this is your environment, not mine. If you would like the device always available, put it in fstab, that easiest. If the device is NOT going to be always available, I'd use sudo with a proper configuration so it doesn't prompt you. But be careful with that, because if someone uses your account, they would have administrative control.
[20:01] <Tohuw> Idhan: make a new connection, and specify the parameters you want, then connect to that one.
[20:01] <wagjo> should I wait until bug with large files in ext-4 is fixed or should i make ext-4 partition now?
[20:01] <K99Brain> MadnessRed, usullay, if there isn't ANY line on the fstab file, if you click on the partition in Places, it is mounted without any password request.
[20:01] <vigo> How do I put all my settings, contacts, e.mails, settings and stuff from a backup?
[20:01] <x3464> anyone notice that visualizations lock up when scrubbing in Totem?
[20:01] <comicinker> _empty: no. it's surely available on desktop edition
[20:01] <x3464> For Karmic..
[20:01] <K99Brain> MadnessRed, it's the simplier way
[20:01] <Tohuw> !anyone | augcampos
[20:01] <ejv> _empty, encryption is available in 9.10, the ubuntu kernels come with pretty much all crypto-modules, twofish, aes, des, cbc, xts, etc
[20:01] <MadnessRed> ok, fstab sounds the better way
[20:01] <Tohuw> !backup | vigo
[20:02] <MadnessRed> Im sure in 9.04 there was an option for remember this password
[20:02] <_empty> comicinker: Strange, I cant find it when doing a fresh install?
[20:02] <vigo> Tohuw: Thank you.
[20:02] <ejv> MadnessRed: google automount as well
[20:02] <yoritomo>  a big problem with flashplayer for firefox, the preinstalled flash plugin is buggy for games and crash on some youtube video, on my karmic64, then i tryed to install de 64 version , working for games and dailymotion, but with youtube firefox crash and close directly
[20:02] <Tohuw> vigo: yw. good luck
[20:02] <comicinker> _empty: yes
[20:02] <RimFrost> when i shutdown the system it comes up  The system shuts down in 60 seconds does it work to make the system shut down direct?
[20:02] <PenStand> guys where can I download ubuntu 9.10 from a direct link?
[20:02] <_empty> comicinker: Where is it then, if not in the partition section? :P
[20:02] <ripps> !karmic
[20:03] <burntash> ks3: whoops the laptop ran out of battery power ha, had to go get the cord and reboot
[20:03] <MadnessRed> here is my fstab
[20:03] <MadnessRed> proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0
[20:03] <MadnessRed> UUID=2f32b8f6-c5ab-4de8-915f-3f3ab1c8bc25 /               ext4    errors=remount-ro 0       1
[20:03] <MadnessRed> /dev/scd0       /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 0       0
[20:03] <FloodBot1> MadnessRed: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:03] <comicinker> _empty: at the screen where you input your name and password
[20:03] <K99Brain> !paste | MadnessRed
[20:04] <MadnessRed> sorry
[20:04] <MadnessRed> !paste
[20:04] <MadnessRed> proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0
[20:04] <MadnessRed> UUID=2f32b8f6-c5ab-4de8-915f-3f3ab1c8bc25 /               ext4    errors=remount-ro 0       1
[20:04] <MadnessRed> /dev/scd0       /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 0       0
[20:04] <FloodBot1> MadnessRed: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:04] <MadnessRed> didn't work
[20:04] <Tohuw> MadnessRed: go to that site, paste it there, paste the link you get after pressing submit here
[20:04] <MadnessRed> ok,
[20:04] <Tohuw>  I'm having CUPS issues. All printers were working fine before, but now every job passes the queue and reports it printed, but nothing actually gets sent to the printer. Here's a log from my HP P1006 connected via USB: http://paste2.org/p/489965 Do lines 71-72 have anything to do with the issue, possibly? I'd be happy to provide further information, just let me know what helps. Thanks!
[20:04] <K99Brain> MadnessRed, lol, you havo to paste on http://paste.ubuntu.com, NOT HERE
[20:05] <MadnessRed> I though you were aying that !paste was a command
[20:05] <deviant-route> i need help, my broadcom wifi is not working in ubuntu 9.10 final
[20:05] <MadnessRed> sorry
[20:05] <Genscher> deviant-route, here the same
[20:05] <deviant-route> dam
[20:05] <MadnessRed> http://paste.ubuntu.com/304525/
[20:05] <Genscher> deviant-route, broadcom not working, was fine in 9.04 and was NOT working in alpha/beta
[20:05] <Genscher> (of 9.10)
[20:06] <deviant-route> is there a salution for it yet
[20:06] <tom967> yo
[20:06] <Ileden> [6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~/aw gone
[20:06] <CarlFK> installed both jaunty and karmic on a laptop that has a 1024x768 screen, X sees that but excludes all the 1024x modes leaving me with 800x600 - what's the right way to fix?   Xorg.0.log http://paste.ubuntu.com/304522/
[20:06] <augcampos> in karmic networking not working
[20:06] <augcampos> 02:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Wireless WiFi Link 5100
[20:06] <augcampos> 03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88E8040T PCI-E Fast Ethernet
[20:06] <augcampos> Please help?
[20:06] <Genscher> deviant-route, no idea, noone took me seriously
[20:06] <FloodBot1> augcampos: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:06] <linuxnewbie> is there any PC that is as small as a netbook?
[20:06] <deviant-route> my broadcom was working fine in 9.04
[20:06] <Genscher> same here
[20:06] <ripps> linuxnewbie: ?? a netbook is a pc
[20:06] <MadnessRed> Anyway K99Brain, what do you mean by if there isn't any line in fstab
[20:06] <K99Brain> linuxnewbie, some mobile phone are like pc...
[20:06] <jensp> linuxnewbie: there are nettops which are small desktop PCs
[20:07] <Tiders> Is Karmic supported here now?
[20:07] <comicinker> yes
[20:07] <varunthacker> how to add information to menu.lst to add 9.10 to the old grub list?
[20:07] <Genscher> deviant-route, just looked up this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1288865
[20:07] <Ileden> sorry about the blurb there, something weird happened. :)
[20:07] <K99Brain> MadnessRed, any line related to the partition you have to mount
[20:07] <Ileden> going now ->
[20:07] <augcampos> [    4.185538] sky2 driver version 1.22
[20:07] <augcampos> [    4.185571] sky2 0000:03:00.0: enabling device (0000 -> 0003)
[20:07] <augcampos> [    4.185580] sky2 0000:03:00.0: PCI INT A -> GSI 17 (level, low) -> IRQ 17
[20:07] <augcampos> [    4.185595] sky2 0000:03:00.0: setting latency timer to 64
[20:07] <augcampos> [    4.185635] sky2 0000:03:00.0: Yukon-2 FE+ chip revision 0
[20:07] <augcampos> [    4.185763] sky2 0000:03:00.0: irq 2298 for MSI/MSI-X
[20:07] <_empty> comicinker: Do you mean the option "requre my password to log in and to decrypt my home folder?
[20:07] <FloodBot1> augcampos: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:07] <strix> my broadcom is working fine after upgrade to 9.10
[20:07] <x3464> where did all the screensavers go in Karmic?
[20:07] <G4JC> ashame they don't hava the alternate dvd. :(
[20:07] <comicinker> _empty: yes!
[20:07] <linuxnewbie> ripps: K99Brain jensp i mean i want the computer part of a netbook but not the LCS
[20:07] <linuxnewbie> LCD
[20:07] <G4JC> only alternate cd for karmic
[20:07] <deviant-route> i'm guesting this is a problem because of the new kernel
[20:07] <bullhorn> directories/files in the /home/username are locked to everyone, except the owner of that username?
[20:07] <pradeep> I cannot connect to hidden wireless networks with wpa2 passwords.The connect button is disabled..
[20:07] <_empty> comicinker: So choosing that will encrypt my home? Great!
[20:08] <sunshinepants> why does my xp guest install seem to crawl with KVM v.s. VirtualBox?  shouldnt we get similar perf?
[20:08] <MadnessRed> K99Brain, no there is nothing there relating to the parition i want to mount
[20:08] <K99Brain> MadnessRed, as you have now
[20:08] <K99Brain> yes
[20:08] <osubuck> so whats the verdict on 9.10, any good?
[20:08] <_empty> comicinker: Thanks for your time!
[20:08] <Veinor> For some reason my speakers are producing static despite the fact that there are no sound-playing applications
[20:08] <comicinker> varunthacker: you have to copy-paste the new entry and adjust the uuid of the partition and the name of the kernel to boot
[20:08] <MadnessRed> what do you mean as I have now K99Brain?
[20:08] <comicinker> _empty: np
[20:08] <K99Brain> MadnessRed, and now, if you click on the partition you want to mount in Places
[20:08] <Tiders> Veinor, That happened to me as well
[20:08] <xisco> how can I mount a hard disk every time I start up the computer ?
[20:09] <PenStand> what's the channel for the release party?
[20:09] <K99Brain> MadnessRed, it isn't mounted?
[20:09] <MadnessRed> I haven't changed fstab
[20:09] <deviant-route> osubuck, it has some broadcom wifi problems other than that it ssuper
[20:09] <Veinor> Tiders: Any idea what's going on?
[20:09] <ejv> there's a next > next > finish setup for home directory encryption? /me facepalms
[20:09] <MadnessRed> thats how fstab is at the moment
[20:09] <Tiders> Veinor, Havn't been able to figure it out to be honest
[20:09] <jhb1608> How do I check my 9.10 if it is really already upgraded?
[20:09] <MadnessRed> when I click on a parititon to mount it
[20:09] <varunthacker> comicinker: can i just install grub 2 ?
[20:09] <burntash> rs3: ok i reboot and im back to being able to access .encrypt
[20:09] <ripps> jhb1608: System -> About Ubuntu
[20:09] <dios_mio> no icons on the system menu!!!
[20:09] <burntash> rs3: i still think im probably entering something wrong when it come to the passphrase wrapping.  since it asks twice.
[20:10] <ripps> dios_mio: that is intentional
[20:10] <comicinker> varunthacker: I don't know
[20:10] <MadnessRed> it says "An application is attempting to perform an action the requires privileges"
[20:10] <dios_mio> how come??
[20:10] <mzawieska> hello guys
[20:10] <mzawieska> I have a problem
[20:10] <comicinker> who doesnt
[20:10] <MadnessRed> if I don't put in a password it says Authentication Failure
[20:10]  * isonator04 slaps MadnessRed around a bit with a large trout
[20:10] <ripps> dios_mio: Gnome is removing a bunch of icons from interface, you can re-enable them from system->preferences->appearence->interface
[20:10] <jhb1608> yes is the upgrade I installed is beta or stable? I already downloaded the stable 9.10 ISO, but mine is still beta
[20:11] <mzawieska> when i go to my laptop downstairs and change to twineView and want to save by clicking Save to X configuration file i am getting error
[20:11] <daleharvey> ok, I also have an external disk drive, can I boot from that?
[20:11] <comicinker> daleharvey: depends on your PC
[20:12] <daleharvey> the usb stuff comes up in the boot options
[20:12] <comicinker> so it should be possible
[20:13] <knoxville> What was the url to update from 9.4 to 9.10?
[20:13] <commander_> i can't get the updates to the repositories
[20:13] <ripps> !upgrade | knoxville
[20:13] <d3xter> is the new software store able to download and install different packkages at the same time?
[20:13] <miguelito12> could I ask for some help about 9.10?
[20:14] <d3xter> miguelito12: go ahead
[20:14] <miguelito12> ok
[20:14] <miguelito12> I installed 9.10
[20:14] <daleharvey> any ideas how I would make the disk drive bootable without deleting anything from it?
[20:14] <burntash> ks3: eCryptfs requires that the user's mount passphrase be inserted into the user session keyring in order to access the files under the ~/Confidential/ mount point. The mount passphrase is wrapped (encrypted) with the user's login passphrase and is stored in the ~/.ecryptfs/wrapped-passphrase file. When the user logs in, the eCryptfs PAM module intercepts the user's login passphrase, uses it to decrypt the wrapped mount passphrase, a
[20:14] <miguelito12> but now I can't login from the logins creen
[20:14] <KEBA1> wow, really empty here -.-
[20:14] <burntash> rs3: so i assume Confidential means the Private folder
[20:14] <d3xter> daleharvey: gparted can do that i think, or maybe cfdisk
[20:14] <miguelito12> it always returns me to the main black login screen
[20:14] <nixiepixel> Hi, I need the installation of Karmic Koala to default to 800x600 for my monitor to work correctly - how can I make it do this?
[20:14] <ZykoticK9> mzawieska, use "gksudo nvidia-settings" then use the Save button - this is because it's trying to write to xorg.conf which is owned by root
[20:14] <KEBA1> i am downloading the torrents with a speed of ~40kiB - do you have such a slow speed, too?
[20:14] <Vegar> What's the default gnome theme in 9.10?
[20:15] <bullhorn> how can i delete the emails on gmail.com through evolution mail? i have to delete each mail twice.. once in evolution and once on gmail.com. annoying!
[20:15] <nixiepixel> The installation process, that is.
[20:15] <ripps> KEBA1: there are over 1800 people, just not everybody is talking
[20:15] <MadnessRed> So K99Brain is this right? /dev/sda4       /media/DATA  vfat   iocharset=utf8,umask=000,user   0   0
[20:15] <K99Brain> MadnessRed, yes
[20:15] <kn100> how can i make a hard disk not need root priv's to be modified?
[20:16] <packet-sent> updated 3 laptop and 1 desktop, desktop and 1 laptop survived 2 laptops are unusable
[20:16] <stahlstift> isn´t there anymore the desktop-switcher in the ubuntu 9.10 netbook remix?
[20:16] <KEBA1> ripps: yeah, my sentence was meant ironically. normal are 1400 iirc - 400 more because of a release? nice :)
[20:16] <d3xter> miguelito12: installation worked fine, right?
[20:16] <ripps> KEBA1: sarcasm is difficult on irc
[20:16] <ks3> burntash: I think the folder name is configurable, so they chose Confidential instead of Private?
[20:16] <timetrap> You people did a great job on 9.10.
[20:16] <K99Brain> MadnessRed, but, i was thinking.. you have checked the "remember authorization" checkbox?
[20:16] <MadnessRed> there isn't one
[20:16] <comicinker> timetrap: thanks
[20:16] <MadnessRed> thats what was confusing me
[20:16] <maurice_> hey, i am using samba to access a folder on another ubuntu which is use for downloading with sabnzbd, i cant see whats inside new folders created in the share on another ubuntu-PC
[20:16] <MeXTuX> Splash screen doesn't show on startup. Instead of it I got an "Undefined video mode number: 317" error. My Ubuntu version is Hardy and my monitor is HP M50
[20:16] <miguelito12> d3xter:yes it worked fine
[20:17] <K99Brain> MadnessRed, when the "An application is attempting to perform..." appears
[20:17] <MadnessRed> in 9.04 there was a box I could press
[20:17] <miguelito12> the problem now is
[20:17] <burntash> ks3: im just trying to figure out when im prompted for Passphrase to wrap: and wrapping passphrase: which to enter for those 2
[20:17] <miguelito12> I can not login
[20:17] <stimpie> xisco add it to /etc/fstab
[20:17] <burntash> ks3: whether its the encrypted passphrase or my login
[20:17] <dioz_mio> there is no pidgin.. but a ewird thing called empathy!!
[20:17]  * Skaperen now needs to put 9.10 on an SD card so he can boot it on his netbook
[20:17] <miguelito12> neither from the login screen nor from terminal by typing "startx"
[20:17] <K99Brain> MadnessRed, ah, ok, and in the 9.10 there isn't?
[20:17] <knoxville> Any official or unofficial backtrack channels? :)
[20:17] <tomasz> #ubuntupl
[20:17] <timetrap> Most impressed that you went with 2.6.31 ...
[20:17] <KEBA1> ripps: well, in such "empty" (ah, i mean full, i am not allowed to make jokes -.-) channels, i agree with you. in really empty ones its ok, i think
[20:17] <d3xter> miguelito12: you know how to deal with the console?
[20:17] <iPanda> i just installed 9.10 :D -- anyway, flash is not installed, and when i try to install the .deb i get an error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libnspr4-dev -- and i can't apt-get that. What's the proper way to do it?
[20:17] <MadnessRed> no its not there in 9.10
[20:17] <miguelito12> yes kinda...
[20:17] <ks3> burntash: The first is the 32 or so bit hex mount passphrase, the 2nd is your login passphrase
[20:17] <Idhan> network question: I have two computer sharing the same wireless routher with ip 192.169.1.x, I need to connect them directly with a lan cable.. with ip should I use for the eth card??
[20:17] <KEBA1> nobody downloading the torrens here?
[20:18] <d3xter> miguelito12: are there any error messages in "cat /var/log/messages"
[20:18] <t2ttmp> do update will fix flash issue
[20:18] <Skaperen> Idhan: not using DHCP?
[20:18] <ks3> burntash: Bah, obiously not 32 bit, 32 characters or so
[20:18] <K99Brain> MadnessRed, ok, now it's clear which is the problem :D ok, add that line in the fstab file
[20:18] <MadnessRed> ok, what is the problem btw?
[20:18] <burntash> ks3: yea, ok i did that
[20:18] <ZykoticK9> Idhan, do you have a crossover-network cable?
[20:18] <t2ttmp> sudo apt-get uodate
[20:18] <K99Brain> MadnessRed, the policykit is changed
[20:18] <trism> iPanda: install flashplugin-installer
[20:18] <burntash> rs3: now do the keyctl padd?
[20:18] <miguelito12> d3xter: do you mean, after doing startx
[20:19] <MadnessRed> ok done, should I restart/
[20:19] <d3xter> miguelito12: after you tried to log in
[20:19] <naxa> hi
[20:19] <Idhan> Skaperen: ZykoticK9: the new ethcard doesnt need a crossover-network.. already few years from now
[20:19] <ks3> Yeah, once you've got the wrapped-passphrase file, run "ecryptfs-unwrap-passphrase | keyctl padd user tempkey @u"
[20:19] <t2ttmp> i did not sure you need to thou
[20:19] <d3xter> miguelito12: 1. try to login, 2. change to the console and run this command
[20:19] <K99Brain> MadnessRed, you can try with: sudo mount -a
[20:19] <iPanda> trism: how? It doesn't seem to be apt-gettalbe
[20:19] <nixiepixel> Can anyone help me figure out how to get the Karmic Koala installation CD to use 800x600 resolution so that I can install it?
[20:19] <nixiepixel> =(
[20:19] <burntash> rs3: when i run that it just hangs
[20:19] <Knuthy> Hi, how comes Opera 10 is not in the 9.10 repos?
[20:19] <Idhan> Skaperen: dhcp does it work with direct connection between two computers?
[20:20] <MadnessRed> mount: mount point /media/DATA does not exist
[20:20] <trism> iPanda: make sure you have the multiverse repository enabled and refresh your repos in synaptic
[20:20] <Veinor> Knuthy: Because opera isn't free (as in speech) and open source.
[20:20] <julianoliver> Knuthy: it's non-free software?
[20:20] <izzi> nixiepixel: ctrl + or ctrl - ?
[20:20] <burntash> the curser hangs underneathe
[20:20] <Skaperen> Idhan: that's what it was originally designed for
[20:20] <ks3> burntash: Sorry, that should be "ecryptfs-unwrap-passphrase ~/.ecryptfs/wrapped-passphrase | keyctl padd user tempkey @u"
[20:20] <miguelito12> d3xter: ok, what command?
[20:20] <sobersabre> so .. is karmic koala out and we can discuss it in here ?
[20:20] <MadnessRed> but when I give it my password it mounts to /media/DATA
[20:20] <K99Brain> MadnessRed, sudo mkdir /media/DATA
[20:20] <Veinor> sobersabre: yep
[20:20] <Skaperen> Idhan: but it will have to be direct connect to a LAN segment with the router on it
[20:20] <d3xter> nixiepixel: try to append "vga=785" as a kernel parameter
[20:20] <x3464> anyone notice that visualizations lock up when scrubbing in Totem?
[20:20] <d3xter> miguelito12: "cat /var/log/messages"
[20:20] <Knuthy> Veinor: I know that it's not free, but I've activated the proprio repositories (as for Skype and so on)
[20:20] <wesslingar> hi, anyone familiar with ubuntu 9.1 netbookremix?
[20:20] <Skaperen> Idhan: or another DHCP server with a different pool ... or just pick any IP address not in any DHCP pool
[20:21] <unitedpotsmokers> hello guys, good morning. i download ubuntu iso image (dekstop version), how to burn & install it with pendrive
[20:21] <Veinor> Knuthy: did you apt-get update ?
[20:21] <kliklik> I've just installed karmic amd64 cleanly and I'm having a lot of BROKEN packages when trying to install flash for example. In synaptic, all the packages are either in installed (local or obsolete) or in installed (manual) statuses.
[20:21] <MadnessRed> ok thanks K99Brain, it works now
[20:21] <Skaperen> Idhan: pick only IPs the LAN is configured for, of course
[20:21] <d3xter> wesslingar: just go ahead, maybe someone can help you :)
[20:21] <K99Brain> MadnessRed, you're welcome
[20:21] <burntash> rs3: still hanging.  im typing "ecryptfs-unwrap-passphrase ~?.ecryptfs/wrapped-passphrase | keyctl padd user tempkey @u" and it just goes to a curser blinking on the next line hanging
[20:21] <sobersabre> wesslingar: there's this old saying "don't ASK TO ASK, just ASK"
[20:21] <d3xter> miguelito12: or maybe try "less /var/log/messages", this is more comfortable ;)
[20:21] <miguelito12> d3xter: I am in the black terminal and I write "cat /var/log/messages"
[20:21] <MadnessRed> but why is it such a complicated procedure?
[20:21] <daleharvey> can anyone point to some way to do either a network install or one from an external hard drive, all the tutorials I can find suck, and I cant even find any reference to network install which I have done a bunch of times before
[20:22] <nixiepixel> d3xter, Thanks.. I'll give it a shot.
[20:22] <Veinor> oh, wait
[20:22] <nixiepixel> izzi,  Thanks hon I'll give it a shot
[20:22] <stahlstift> Where is the Desktop Switcher in 9.10 Netbook remix :(
[20:22] <Knuthy> Veinor: well used synaptic, but I'll use apt-get to see
[20:22] <Neosano> Hello guys! I would like to install ubuntu 9.10 to my new computer using netboot. Is it up to date? It says 17 October, but I guess it doesn't matter because it downloads the most part from internet, right?
[20:22] <Veinor> Knuthy: I don't know if opera is in the repositories
[20:22] <cousin_mario> hello
[20:22] <sobersabre> daleharvey: do you already have at least 1 machine installed ?
[20:22] <wesslingar> i installed the actual ubuntu netbookremix on my eeepc 900a, on the second ssd harddrive (i have to give command "esc" to choose to boot from there), but the performance is really not good, xp is faster...
[20:22] <trism> daleharvey: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation#Server and network installations
[20:22] <cousin_mario> is there any difference in the final installation between desktop/alternate installer?
[20:22] <miguelito12> d3xter: ok it showed some codes
[20:22] <daleharvey> I have one machine installed, but thats the one I want to to a fresh install on top of
[20:23] <miguelito12> d3xter: what shall I search for?
[20:23] <dioz_mio> why no "pidgin" but "empathy"??
[20:23] <MBD123> I'm trying to download the CD image karmic, but the download isn't starting. What's going on?
[20:23] <julianoliver> dioz_mio: pidgin was scrapped in favour of Empathy
[20:23] <unitedpotsmokers> I open iso image with poweriso then i extract it into pendrive, but i wont boot
[20:23] <sobersabre> daleharvey: you can have several approaches, you can for instance use FAI package.
[20:23] <burntash> rs3: when i type "ecryptfs-unwrap-passphrase ~/.encryptfs/wrapped-passphrase" it prompts "Passphrase:" and i type my login and it shows me the decrypted 32 character passphrase
[20:23] <cousin_mario> MBD123: network congestion, presumably
[20:23] <dioz_mio> julianoliver, but whhhhhy
[20:23] <Skaperen> MBD123: where from?  maybe the site is overloaded
[20:23] <burntash> rs3: so wrapped-passphrase must be made right if thats working
[20:23] <cousin_mario> MBD123: use torrent
[20:23] <julianoliver> unitedpotsmokers: try unetbootin instead
[20:23] <sobersabre> FAI=full automatic insallation.
[20:23] <julianoliver> dioz_mio: no idea
[20:24] <Veinor> Knuthy: how exactly did you add the opera repositories?
[20:24] <Knuthy> Veinor: seems like it's not on the offical repos
[20:24] <mzawieska> how come when i config samba and shared the folder its not showing in my computer downstairs?
[20:24] <MBD123> Skaperen: Ubuntu.com
[20:24] <wilu> i can't playback matroska movies?
[20:24] <gunknown> i have firefox and shiretoko installed on my 9.04. What will happen after an upgrade to 9.10?
[20:24] <trism> dioz_mio: it is still there, you can install it with sudo apt-get install pidgin (that's the first thing I did)
[20:24] <scott_ino2> is karmic out... is it out!!!!
[20:24] <scott_ino2> jk
[20:24] <mzawieska> i shared the folder but its not showing
[20:24] <wilu> it lags lags lags
[20:24] <julianoliver> Knuthy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[20:24] <Skaperen> MBD123: I'd bet you are competing against 12,781 people
[20:24] <sobersabre> daleharvey: I used it to install more than 100 workstations, so it works...
[20:24] <Knuthy> julianoliver: thx :)
[20:24] <daleharvey> sobersabre: looking for the simplest possible
[20:24] <ks3> burntash: Hmm, that should have been piped to keyctl... you can manually do it by just typing 'keyctl add user tempkey 32charmountphrase @u'
[20:25] <Neosano> Hello guys! I would like to install ubuntu 9.10 to my new computer using netboot. Is it up to date? It says 17 October, but I guess it doesn't matter because it downloads the most part from internet, right?
[20:25] <mzawieska> can any1 help me?
[20:25] <burntresistor> i running 9.10 and windows are crashing from heavy useage handbrake and  vbox and some others im running a i5  with 4gb but ubuntu is seeing 3  would more ram help or am i maxing out what the cpu can do
[20:25] <Skaperen> MBD123: so use torrent or at least a mirror
[20:25] <carresmd> wilu, hi again, what GPU do you have?
[20:25] <Veinor> Knuthy: try adding deb http://deb.opera.com/opera/ stable non-free to /etc/apt/sources.list
[20:25] <daleharvey> it used to be a matter of pressing f7, giving it an address to pull sources from, and everything worked
[20:25] <wilu> carresmd: GPU ?
[20:25] <carresmd> wilu, yes what graphics card
[20:26] <sobersabre> daleharvey: basically it easiness depends on your setup.
[20:26] <julianoliver> Veinor: apparently the version there is outdated.
[20:26] <Noble> Having issues with 9.10 and nvidia drivers
[20:26] <burntash> ks3: now i typed after that "ecryptfs-insert-wrapped-passphrase-into-keyring ~/.ecryptfs/wrapped_passphrase" and i was prompted again "passphrase:" so i typed my login and then it said Inserted auth tok with sig [16character hex] into the user session keyring" so that worked
[20:26] <wsch> whats the best way to manually install grub only onto a partition, not to MBR?
[20:26] <wilu> carresmd: wait
[20:26] <wsch> any docs about it or something?
[20:26] <sobersabre> if you have a simple setup and you have control of everything, it's easy.
[20:26] <julianoliver> Noble: what happens?
[20:26] <Skaperen> MBD123: which file are you trying to download?
[20:26] <Noble> hmm
[20:26] <unitedpotsmokers> please help me
[20:26] <Noble> Its related to compiz I guess
[20:26] <burntash> ks3: i type "keyctl show" and still get the one line "-3 --alswrv 1000 1000 keyring: _ses"
[20:26] <Neosano> Hello guys! I would like to install ubuntu 9.10 to my new computer using netboot. Is it up to date? It says 17 October, but I guess it doesn't matter because it downloads the most part from internet, right?
[20:26] <Noble> when i try to play in windowed mode
[20:26] <wsch> unitedpotsmokers, so lets hear your problem first?
[20:26] <wesslinger> anyone experience with bad performance under eeepc netbookremix on eeepc 900a
[20:26] <sobersabre> daleharvey: what do oyu exactly need to do ?
[20:26] <unitedpotsmokers> julianoliver: i send u private msg
[20:26] <Noble> it crashes the whole drvier
[20:26] <MBD123> Skaperen: The CD image
[20:26] <mikejet> When is Desktop 9.10 (64-bit) going to be available?
[20:26] <Skaperen> MBD123: there are several choices ... which?
[20:26] <wilu> carresmd: heh, where did i see that
[20:27] <ks3> burntash: Hmmm, if the key was successfully inserted there should be around 4 entries showing up
[20:27] <ZykoticK9> mikejet, it already is...
[20:27] <sobersabre> wesslinger: what do you mean "bad performance" ?
[20:27] <assoguerozen_sx> they just did acroreader for x64 =]
[20:27] <sobersabre> wesslinger: is it overheating ?
[20:27] <isolatedsh33p> gosh, i had to download ubuntu 9.10 from XP since something went wrong with my apt =_=
[20:27] <wilu> carresmd: ok found, GeForce 8800 GTS 512
[20:27] <daleharvey> sober, I have a laptop with 9.04 installed, I have a cd / iso of 9.10, my cd drive is apparently broken because installing with the cd freezes, I want to do a fresh install of 9.10
[20:27] <julianoliver> Noble: what 'driver'?
[20:27] <Noble> the restriced one
[20:27] <Noble> crashes the whole X
[20:27] <Veinor> julianoliver: is it? http://deb.opera.com/opera/pool/non-free/o/opera/opera_10.01.4682.gcc4.qt3_i386.deb was last touched on 28-oct-09
[20:27] <Noble> it seems
[20:27] <carresmd> wilu, ok.. shouldn't be a problem
[20:28] <Neosano> Hello guys! I would like to install ubuntu 9.10 to my new computer using netboot. Is it up to date? It says 17 October, but I guess it doesn't matter because it downloads the most part from internet, right?
[20:28] <jtholmes> mikejet, everything was released
[20:28] <wilu> carresmd: PCI Express 1X ?
[20:28] <deviant-route> Hey guys i'm not sure if someone alread found this but here is a link that shows you how to fix the broadcom wifi problem http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1288865
[20:28] <deviant-route> it worked for me
[20:28] <henjj> I can connect to my workplace VPN but I am unable to view the shared files.  In Nautilus, I type in smb://ipaddress and I get the message "Error: Failed to retrieve share list from server. Please select another viewer and try again.  I'm pretty new to ubuntu so I'm not sure how to troubleshoot this.  Any help woudl be appreciated.
[20:28] <julianoliver> Veinor: ok, good. then the info here needs to be updated: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[20:28] <MBD123> Skaperen: ubuntu-9.10-desktop-1386.iso
[20:28] <sobersabre> daleharvey: can you boot via USB ?
[20:28] <wesslinger1> sorry my connection suchs, thats why i need to ask again (dont know if anyone answered), has onyone experience with bad performance under actual netbookremix on eeepc 900a?
[20:28] <carresmd> wilu, 1X?
[20:28] <Tesssa> question have been trying to install ubunti 9.10 i dont have windows on my puter but xubuntu  i go through the install proceedure,get to 3of6 click forward jumps to 4 of 7 no partition manager why
[20:28] <julianoliver> Neosano: yes, it's probably just outdated information. upgrade after install anyway.
[20:28] <wilu> carresmd: yea what's that
[20:28] <mzawieska> I need help with samba sharing folder. THe shared folder that i set up on my computer is not showing off in my other computer
[20:28] <daleharvey> its listed in the boot order options, so it looks like I should be able to
[20:29] <wilu> carresmd: it plays normal dvdrips
[20:29] <Skaperen> MBD123: via HTTP?
[20:29] <carresmd> wilu, where does it say that?
[20:29] <Neosano> julianoliver thanks :]
[20:29] <wilu> carresmd: nvidia-settings, GPU - 0
[20:29] <mikejet> The "Begin Download" button does not work.
[20:29] <MBD123> Skaperen: Hang on, I'm going to try restarting. I think it's just a firefox problem
[20:29] <carresmd> wilu, did you build the PC yourself?
[20:29] <unitedpotsmokers> my friend using eeepc 1005. i donwload ubuntu 9.04 remix. install perfectly but unable to make a connection via wireless. hardware not detect. how to fix this? or ubuntu remix not support asus eeepc?
[20:30] <burntash> ks3: and the auth tok that was 16 characters printed out, i did "cat ~/.encryptfs/$USER/Private.sig" and the exact same 16 character hex is in the .sig file
[20:30] <nixiepixel> d3xter, how do I append vga=785 as a kernel parameter? I don't know how to do that with the installation CD
[20:30] <wsch> Tesssa, you should be able to choose for manual if you want to manually partition your drive, if thats what you mean, im not sure if it skips steps if you dont choose manually
[20:30] <erUSUL> !boot | nixiepixel
[20:30] <burntash> ks3: so its just now showing up when i type "keyctl show"
[20:30] <jordo2323> Is there a good step-by-step document to upgrade to Karmic yet?
[20:30] <Banane1> Jordo Which version do u hae ?
[20:30] <Banane1> have*
[20:30] <Edson`> Upgrading to Karmic ^_^.
[20:30] <x3464> Wow...  this bug is annoying - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/totem/+bug/448805
[20:30] <deviant-route> anyways later guys
[20:30] <ks3> burntash: I believe we put the sig in Private.sig, but it looks like there are supposed to be two in there
[20:30] <wsch> unitedpotsmokers, what card does he have? try googling it if nobody answers
[20:31] <carresmd> wilu, did you build the PC yourself?
[20:31] <wsch> unitedpotsmokers, you can check with lspci or lsucb, depending how the card is interfaced
[20:31] <burntash> ks3: 2 16character sigs?
[20:31] <wilu> carresmd: nope
[20:31] <ks3> burntash: yep
[20:31] <nixiepixel> erUSUL, Are you suggesting that I have to create a new installation CD?
[20:31] <burntash> ks3: on different lines?
[20:31] <SuperDefenderX> Anyone else suffering from slow DNS resolution in 9.10?
[20:31] <wilu> carresmd: ok probably i'll have to change to fedora :(
[20:31] <johnbum5461> Hi...just upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10 selected auto hide panel and it slid down as it should, and then display froze, then a complete hard restart was required, NOW I cannot access the panel for system or  places, applications or anything else...is there a keyboard shortcut to access the panels, the only thing I can see is the trash can??  thanks for any ideas
[20:31] <ks3> burntash: Yes. Not sure what they're for, I've not had to mess with the sig file before.
[20:31] <Skaperen> SuperDefenderX: not me
[20:31] <GNU_D_> Hi, maybe is offtopic, but can you tell me a link with the price rate for europe shipping for Ubuntu clothes, please ?
[20:31] <nixiepixel> izzi, "CTRL -" didn't do anything for me.
[20:31] <erUSUL> nixiepixel: no i am sugesting you to read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[20:32] <sobersabre> daleharvey: don't you have a 1-2 GB flash disk  ?
[20:32] <Skaperen> SuperDefenderX: but then, I use my own DNS on my own servers
[20:32] <alex_mayorga> anyone else that's music less due to https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rhythmbox/+bug/442157 ?
[20:32] <profanephobia> hey all. so i just did a clean install of 9.10 (yay!) and after I booted I went to edit my grub's menu.lst and its not there
[20:32] <burntash> ks3: i have a 2nd 16 character one i was given i can append to it
[20:32] <izzi> nixiepixel: mayb4e alt-ctrl + or -
[20:32] <unitedpotsmokers> wsch, i'm not really sure... but i will give u a model number
[20:32] <ZykoticK9> unitedpotsmokers, not sure about 1005 specifically BUT try plugging in a network cable, do all available updates, THEN check the System / Admin / Hardware Drivers.  Good luck.
[20:32] <mikejet> gawd --- who uses ftp(port=21) anymore?!?
[20:32] <julianoliver> profanephobia: hehe
[20:32] <sun`> !torrents
[20:32] <daleharvey> sobersabre: nope not that I can find
[20:32] <ks3> burntash: Interesting, yeah. echo sig >>~/.ecryptfs/Private.sig
[20:32] <SuperDefenderX> !DNS
[20:32] <wsch> unitedpotsmokers, just search for it in lspci and lsucb output, and google it YOURSELF :p
[20:32] <ghabit> Hello. Where I can find official mdsum's?
[20:32] <mikejet> Just let us download the .iso from port 80. Idiots!
[20:32] <unitedpotsmokers> my friend use asus eeepc 1005HA
[20:32] <magra> somebody who can tell me why the speed i so damn slow using VNC on my laptop to my ubuntu desktop?? i run at 54mbps wireless net at home....
[20:32] <sun`> !lamp
[20:33] <tue> !torrents
[20:33] <Skaperen> mikejet: find someone willing to host it on port 80
[20:33] <SuperDefenderX> !foo
[20:33] <mikebeecham> does anyone know if there is facebook support in Empathy, since that is what ships with Karmic?
[20:33] <daleharvey> oh wait, I found a 1gb usb stick
[20:33] <unitedpotsmokers> ZykoticK9: oh... good idea.. i never do that before. ok i will try
[20:33] <mikejet> Skaperen, Change ubuntu.com to support that.
[20:33] <knoxville> How do I end a job running in terminal?
[20:33] <burntash> rs3: added.  yea i found it weird when it gave me 2
[20:33] <Skaperen> mikejet: I'm not the ubuntu.com sysadmin, sorry
[20:33] <julianoliver> knoxville: CTRL-C
[20:33] <ghabit> knoxville: ctrl+c
[20:33] <burntash> rs3: now what should i try to get this into the key ring
[20:34] <Skaperen> mikejet: be nice and I might offer it on my server
[20:34] <wilu> carresmd: Talking  Howto: Successfully Play Matroska With Vlc
[20:34] <knoxville> julianoliver: thanks
[20:34] <knoxville> ghabit: thanks
[20:34] <nixiepixel> erUSUL, Thank you, that helps, but I see no list of what the vga= options are, such as what is vga=771 vs. vga=785?
[20:34] <wilu> carresmd: searching in google then PD
[20:34] <Aggrav8d> ugh.  segfault while running the 8.04->9.10 update on ubuntu server.
[20:34] <iPanda> so how can i install flash...? the .deb doesn't work because of libnspr4-dev dependency error
[20:34] <magra> someone?? maby a better solution for remote acces for the X than VNC??
[20:34] <profanephobia> nevermind i see now that grub no longer uses menu.lst
[20:34] <burntash> rs3: i reran insert-wrapped-passphrase, and it inserted the new 16 character sig into the user session keyring
[20:34] <carresmd> wilu, or you could just give me the link
[20:34] <scott_ino2> iPanda, maybe just install the linux-restricted-extras package
[20:34] <burntash> rs3: then ran keyctl show, and still getting nothing
[20:35] <packet-sent> is this the official channel for karmic problems?
[20:35] <henjj> Hello, I can connect to my workplace VPN in Karmic but I am unable to view the shared files.  In Nautilus, I type in smb://ipaddress and I get the message "Error: Failed to retrieve share list from server. Please select another viewer and try again.  I'm pretty new to ubuntu so I'm not sure how to troubleshoot this.  Any help woudl be appreciated.
[20:35] <jennie_alex> can i you guys good websites that give pointers to how we can implement a shell?
[20:35] <julianoliver> packet-sent: yep
[20:35] <Banane1> @IPanda sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[20:35] <erUSUL> nixiepixel: this can be found in google 795 is 1024x768 24 bit color the other nnumbers translate to other resolution color depth pairs.
[20:35] <ripps> iPanda: it should work, try unstalling everything related to flash, then reinstall using apt-get flashplugin-installer
[20:35] <X-TaZz> Hello. I just downloaded the UNR 9.10 iso file. I'd like to create a bootable usb key with it . How do I proceed ?
[20:35] <BunnyG> Anyone getting black screen after installing ati catalyst drivers in karmic??
[20:35] <nomic> where do i put a bug report pls?
[20:35] <burntash> rs3: does the keyring hve a name i should type in after "show" like "keyctl show Keyringname"
[20:35] <nomic> not much of a bug
[20:35] <mgv2> why i cant connect with guest user?
[20:35] <rdz> hi all. it seems that release notes only list issues of the new 9.04. where can i find a list of changes, enhancements and new features?
[20:35] <knoxville> My upgrade driver shuts down my upgrade in progress, it shows this error: W:Failed to fetch http://dk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/karmic/main/binary-i386/Packages.bz2  Hash Sum mismatch
[20:35] <julianoliver> X-TaZz: i would use unetbootin: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[20:35] <iPanda> Banane1: ....it doesn't see such a package...
[20:36] <Liberum> I'm having problems with my keyboard on 9.10.  I'm using a Mac, and when viewing the Alt key in xev, it confirms that it is actually the 'Alt_L' key, but holding it down and pressing any of the numbers never generates one of the characters that should be there. The numbers work fine with shift. The problem I'm having is that Alt+2 is supposed to give me an e-mail address (this is confirmed by the layout in "Show Current Layout").
[20:36] <Banane1> I just tried it :O
[20:36] <Banane1> I can see one
[20:36] <ZykoticK9> magra, you could check out FreeNX, it's what NoMachine uses.  Don't use it personally, but others really like it.
[20:36] <ks3> burntash: Nope, it automatically shows the keyring assigned to you
[20:36] <aliendude5300> Hi. I just installed Ubuntu Karmic 9.10 on my Netbook, and I noticed a serious regression since Jaunty. My multi-touch touchpad no longer works (as a multi-touch device), but it does act as a regular touch pad still
[20:36] <bastid_raZor> n
[20:36] <julianoliver> nomic: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/
[20:36] <aliendude5300> Can anyone help me?
[20:36] <Liberum> *the e-mail at sign, not "an e-mail address" :)
[20:36] <magra> ZykoticK9: Thanks ill look in to that
[20:36] <julianoliver> aliendude5300: be sure to report a bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/
[20:37] <ZykoticK9> magra, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[20:37] <magra> ZykoticK9: but can i use that to conncet from a win system??
[20:37] <BunnyG> Anyone getting black screen after installing ati catalyst drivers in karmic??
[20:37] <burntash> ks3: hm, so why would i just get 'Session Keyring' on one line and the next line "-3 --alswrv 1000 1000 keyring: _ses"
[20:37] <iPanda> Banane1: my apt get doesn't even seee anything that starts with "flash".. what can i do?
[20:37] <sobersabre> daleharvey: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[20:37] <aliendude5300> julianoliver: I will. I was just looking for a solution.
[20:37] <ZykoticK9> magra, i'm sure (but don't KNOW)
[20:37] <knoxville> My upgrade driver shuts down my upgrade in progress, it shows this error: W:Failed to fetch http://dk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/karmic/main/binary-i386/Packages.bz2  Hash Sum mismatch
[20:37] <magra> ZykoticK9: ok thanks alot!!
[20:38] <sobersabre> knoxville: it is possible the mirror website is not in sync ....
[20:38] <Banane1> Sorry I dont know maybe something istn right with your sources
[20:38] <mzawieska> I am getting this error when i want to save the twine view in my laptop failed to parse existing X config file /etc/X11/org.conf
[20:38] <SJr> Um I'm trying to upgrade, and I lost network cause I had to hibernate, I was in the portion of getting new packages, and then the app closed
[20:38] <mzawieska> any solution?
[20:38] <aliendude5300> julianoliver: I can help debug if needed. I'm not a beginner to the terminal or anything... I can help you get any info you need.
[20:38] <sobersabre> try using another one.. say in norway, or germany.
[20:38] <ks3> burntash: Not sure. Are you running that from the same terminal as the ecryptfs commands?
[20:38] <sobersabre> daleharvey: are you there ?
[20:38] <knoxville> sobersabre: you kidding me, what should I do then?
[20:38] <julianoliver> aliendude5300: i don't have that hardware so can't help. i can only suggest looking into tp config utilities to try to see if events are being reported.
[20:38] <SJr> Now when I try to restart the app, I get "Unable to get exclusive Lock", yet apt or aptitude are not running
[20:38] <burntash> ks3: yea
[20:38] <ks3> burntash: I have a _uid_ses and a _uid, then 2 user keys
[20:38] <Banane1> IPanda: nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[20:38] <sobersabre> knoxville: when you're installing you are choosing a server.
[20:38] <julianoliver> SJr: run 'ps ax | grep dpkg'
[20:38] <watskeburten> !torrents
[20:38] <burntash> ks3: when i run "ecrypt-manager" it has add public key to keyring" what would that do?
[20:39] <maxIII> Hello everyone!
[20:39] <sobersabre> knoxville: did you at any point choose .dk server ?
[20:39] <julianoliver> SJr: also make sure you're using sudo
[20:39] <SJr> julianoliver,  nothing
[20:39] <iPanda> Banane1: should i add something into that?
[20:39] <henjj> Hello, I can connect to my workplace VPN (windows server) in Karmic but I am unable to view the shared files.  In Nautilus, I type in smb://ipaddress and I get the message "Error: Failed to retrieve share list from server. Please select another viewer and try again.  I'm pretty new to ubuntu so I'm not sure how to troubleshoot this.  Any help would be appreciated.
[20:39] <knoxville> sobersabre: no, I did not.
[20:39] <profanephobia> OK how can I edit my grub list in 9.10. it wont let me edit /boot/grub/grub.cfg even as root!
[20:39] <sobersabre> BTW, knoxville all this should happen AFTER the system has been installed.
[20:39] <Banane1> No
[20:39] <ks3> burntash: Not sure, but it shouldn't hurt anything to try it
[20:39] <Banane1> Post it please
[20:39] <maxIII> I have the same problem than http://forums.opensuse.org/hardware/388736-strange-pop-click-sound-speakers-every-time.html but I'm under Ubuntu 9.10
[20:39] <SJr> Hmmmm that's odd I don't remember using sudo last time
[20:39] <arcsky> http://hem.passagen.se/dmsn/ubuntu_unetbootin.jpg why doesnt this work ? i get a black screen when im booting up
[20:40] <SJr> maxIII, are the speakers muted?
[20:40] <mzawieska>  failed to parse existing X config file /etc/X11/org.conf <--this is error I am getting when i am trying to save the conf  to X COnfiguration file
[20:40] <sobersabre> knoxville: you can do as follows: restart the installation, and do not connect the machine to the network.
[20:40] <sobersabre> knoxville: are you there ?
[20:40] <jennie_alex> can anyone tell me if there is a website that gives pointers to how we can implement a C shell
[20:40] <preecher> after updating to 9.10 i see a "ubuntu one" under apps and internet--when i go to it it has me register and then i get a message i have to wait on it to update--is this something i need
[20:40] <SJr> julianoliver, I tried as root same error
[20:40] <maxIII> SJr, no
[20:40] <gigasoft>  /msg NickServ identify 351837
[20:40] <knoxville> sobersabre: I have 9.04 atm, trying to update to 9.10 through Update Manager.
[20:40] <sobersabre> just disconnect the cable. After it finishes, reboot, and login.
[20:40] <aliendude5300> The Lauchpad server is having trouble... I'm getting an error when trying to file a bug... didn't Canonical learn to upgrade their hardware since the last major release?
[20:40] <maxIII> Mute or not, there are pop click sound
[20:40] <sobersabre> knoxville: then you need to use another mirror.
[20:41] <SJr> maxIII,  so neither PCM or Master are muted, if not then I have no idea.
[20:41] <watskeburten> how do i get 9.10 from 9.04? distupgrd isnt working. it isnt giving me 9.10, it gives me 9.04 as most recent (I currently have 9.04 installed). update-manager -d tells me I can get, but "9.10 is still BETA" :/ though ubuntu.com says otherwise
[20:41] <knoxville> sobersabre: sorry for slow response, my gf is flooding me with questions.. :D
[20:41] <Skaperen> aliendude5300: did you forget to send them the $25,000,000.00 check to pay for that upgrade?
[20:41] <sobersabre> just run "Software Sources", and it has an option to change the server.
[20:41] <seyfarth> Is there a bittorrent for the netbook remix 9.10 .img someone could point me to? My university blocks access to torrent trackers, but not the actual download
[20:41] <knoxville> sobersabre: Under settings in Update Manager right?
[20:41] <Raydiation1> wtf
[20:41] <burntresistor> is there a solution to the problems with my dvd drives losing fuctionality it happen in 9.04 and again in 9.10  they wont open
[20:41] <Raydiation1> 1.8k people
[20:41] <burntash> ks3: i just ran "ecrypt-mount-private" and it mounted and everything is listed decrypted filenames :D
[20:41] <Banane1> @Panda1: shoul look like this
[20:41] <Banane1> ## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the
[20:41] <Banane1> ## distribution.
[20:41] <Banane1> deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ karmic-updates main restricted
[20:41] <Banane1> deb-src http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ karmic-updates main restricted
[20:41] <Banane1> ## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu
[20:41] <FloodBot1> Banane1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:42] <SJr> julianoliver,  weird there is a process called karmic that is locking it
[20:42] <SJr> should I kill it?
[20:42] <sobersabre> knoxville: in the software sources, you can change "Download From:" field.
[20:42] <burntash> ks3: even though keyctl show doesnt bring it up
[20:42] <miguelito12> I am having a login problem which might be related to the message on the screen saying sth. like:" GNOME Power Manager- predefined configuration is not installed properly". Can anyone help me on this?
[20:42] <ks3> burntash: Excellent! Wasn't that easy :)
[20:42] <daleharvey> ok cheers
[20:42] <burntash> ks3: im gonna try and reboot and see if it sticks
[20:42] <wilu> does anyone have problem with a lag in vlc when playing matroska files
[20:42] <wilu> ?
[20:42] <ZykoticK9> seyfarth, it seems they have switched to downloading an ISO then moving it to USB (info on UNR download)
[20:42] <maxIII> SJr, When I change PCM volume, the pop/click sound is Worst.
[20:42] <Raydiation1> does it really boot faster? it boots slower here
[20:42] <sobersabre> knoxville: you can choose "Choose", and then "choose the best" something.
[20:42] <wsch> whats the best way to manually install grub only onto a partition, not to MBR? this is for booting 9.10 ext4
[20:42] <ks3> burntash: Sounds good, I'll be here for 20 more minutes or so
[20:42] <sobersabre> knoxville: got it ?
[20:42] <SJr> Hmmmm not sure then maxIII
[20:42] <watskeburten> wilu: use MPlayer for MKVs
[20:42] <sobersabre> daleharvey: are you alive ?
[20:42] <knoxville> sobersabre: got it! Thanks!
[20:42] <KitsuneDragon> has anybody else here had problems with OA??
[20:42] <knoxville> sobersabre: kudos to you!
[20:43] <burntash> ks3: yea i gotta leave in 15 too for class haha, so hopefully this works.  if not at least i know i can still see it and the data is there should i need to copy it
[20:43] <Kartagis> what's the terminal tool to upgrade to 9.10?
[20:43] <nixiepixel> erUSUL, izzi - I appreciate the help, but I cannot find what other vga= options there are in Google, and vga=785 didn't work for me when I typed it at the end of the line after hitting F6 :(
[20:43] <sobersabre> knoxville: I'm back to my wife.
[20:43] <Axius> How to uninstall a package in ubuntu?
[20:43] <daleharvey> sobersabre: it looks like thisll work, thanks
[20:43] <sobersabre> regards all
[20:43] <wilu> watskeburten: ok i'll try
[20:43] <dw13> anyone successfully installed gnome-globalmenu on karmic?
[20:43] <Kartagis> Axius, sudo apt-get purge package
[20:43] <tado> ciao a tutti
[20:43] <tado> vorrei personalizzare un poco il tema del mio desktop. mi piacciono alcune icone di un tema e altre di un altro. come posso fare ad importare una serie di queste nel tema principale?
[20:43] <Kartagis> !it | tado
[20:43] <pbailey> in inglese prego
[20:44] <bonez46> I can't get Evolution to work right.. since upgrading to 9.10..
[20:44] <erUSUL> nixiepixel: first hit in google for "vga number codes" → http://www.knoppix.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=36777
[20:44] <watskeburten> evolution was removed in 9..10, bonez46
[20:44] <bonez46> is this #ubuntu.. the english support room?
[20:44] <ripps> bonez46: yes
[20:44] <thevdi> Hi. gnome-schedule doesn't seem to work anymore - it won't let me set a task "in the future" - any ideas?
[20:44] <bonez46> watskeburten: what replaces evolution then?
[20:44] <watskeburten> how do i get 9.10 from 9.04? distupgrd isnt working. it isnt giving me 9.10, it gives me 9.04 as most recent (I currently have 9.04 installed). update-manager -d tells me I can get, but "9.10 is still BETA" :/ though ubuntu.com says otherwise.....  so how do I get 9.10 stable, from 9.04?
[20:44] <Banane1> How can I test the GNOME-Shell?
[20:45] <bonez46> or where I can find a list of the changes?
[20:45] <mzawieska> please any1 could help me with my problems
[20:45] <mzawieska> :/
[20:45] <tado> ooops
[20:45] <tado> sorry guys :) same question different language then: i'd like to customize my theme. i like some icons from one theme and others from another. how can i import icons from one theme to the other?
[20:45] <aliendude5300> Skaperen: It must've got lost in the mail. :P
[20:45] <julianoliver> watskeburten: have you upgraded all the packages in 9.04?
[20:45] <jad> Hello ;)
[20:45] <thevdi> Thunderbird probably replaced evolution
[20:45] <angelus> hi, quick question .... does the alternate CD for Ubuntu double as the desktop CD ... or do i need the Desktop CD if i want to do a fresh install ......
[20:45] <bonez46> ripps is there a list of the programs removed, or the replacements?
[20:45] <watskeburten> julianoliver: yes
[20:45] <jad> Have a little issue with Koala eating Windows
[20:45] <Kartagis> what's the terminal tool to upgrade to 9.10?
[20:45] <xxaaronxx> Hi all, i have a small issue. I cannt seem to save what im trying to edit a simple text file... :(
[20:45] <aliendude5300> Skaperen: Also, it wouldn't cost that much. They just need more bandwidth, not a whole new datacenter.
[20:45] <ripps> Banane1: apt-get gnome-shell... then run gnome-shell --replace
[20:45] <evilbug> how come pidgin was dropped as the default, because of no a/v chat?
[20:45] <ogreland> hi all
[20:45] <jad> evilbug: yes
[20:45] <bonez46> I am sure Koala loves to eat Windows
[20:45] <ogreland> 9.10 really suck
[20:45] <ogreland> sry
[20:46] <remote> why?
[20:46] <scott_ino2> Kartagis, sudo apt-get update, then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[20:46] <ogreland> wireless not work
[20:46] <julianoliver> watskeburten: odd. i don't know the answer to do it cleanly.
[20:46] <jad> Grub2 doesn't show Windows as an Option at all
[20:46] <wilu> watskeburten: what about smplayer and kmplayer ?
[20:46] <jad>  How do I fix that ?
[20:46] <Tesssa> think i will wait to go to 9.10 untill thay have sorted the bugs out
[20:46] <burntash> rs3: booted in and everything looks decrypted :)  though i did see something about a mount error earlier during the boot
[20:46] <ogreland> problems with bootup from CD
[20:46] <wilu> watskeburten: i get error in mplayer
[20:46] <rdz> is there a changelog or what's new page? the release notes only mention issues... i would like to know about the enhancements, though
[20:46] <|Roert|> hello all
[20:46] <remote> jad: you stop using windows
[20:46] <ogreland> i'm switch back to fedora 11
[20:46] <watskeburten> wilu: get the lastest version fromsvn. there is a tut about it on the ubuntuforums
[20:46] <Veinor> I'm getting static on my speakers.
[20:46] <ripps> bonez46: maybe http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/910overview
[20:46] <xxaaronxx> can anyone help me?
[20:46] <ks3> burntash: Good to hear, other than the last part :/
[20:46] <jad> remote: It's a work computer
[20:46] <julianoliver> ogreland: try to get onto an ethernet network and apt-get update. then you should get an indicator to install a package that'll fix your wireless.
[20:46] <wilu> watskeburten: error opening/initizlizing the video_out (-vo) device.
[20:46] <Veinor> Even though there's no sound playing at all.
[20:46] <|Roert|> can help me whit an huawei mobile connect usb stik on ubuntu 9.10 64 bit ?
[20:46] <Skaperen> aliendude5300: 2000 new servers ... 40 new Cisco switches ... 20 routers with BGP ... 16 redundant internet providers ... you provide all that and we can all have fast downloads
[20:46] <Tesssa> might even try win7
[20:46] <remote> jad: work doesn't have to suck
[20:46] <thevdi> Hi. gnome-schedule doesn't seem to work anymore - it won't let me set a task "in the future" - any ideas?
[20:47] <profanephobia> I need to change the name of an entry in my grub configuration
[20:47] <Veinor> Er, no sound-playing apps.
[20:47] <nixiepixel> erUSUL, Great, thanks, I had no idea what to search for, that is very helpful.
[20:47] <wilu> watskeburten: latest version of what? mplayer ?
[20:47] <jad> remote: Part of the deal is they can jump back to Windows in case of say a Office 2010 Doc coming in
[20:47] <ogreland> julianoliver strange when why 9.04 all work fine?
[20:47] <remote> jad: they don't need to
[20:47] <henjj> Hello, I can connect to my workplace VPN (windows server) in Karmic but I am unable to view the shared files.  In Nautilus, I type in smb://ipaddress and I get the message "Error: Failed to retrieve share list from server. Please select another viewer and try again."  I'm pretty new to ubuntu so I'm not sure how to troubleshoot this.  Any help would be appreciated.
[20:47] <xxaaronxx> can anyone help me?
[20:47] <numberlust> anybody know where the list of jaunty apt repo mirrors can be found? i want to fix my sources.list to get from something closer to my server
[20:47] <jad> remote: They have so far
[20:47] <watskeburten> wilu: yes, latest mplayer from SVN. andrew made a tut about it on ubuntuforums :)
[20:47] <evilbug> jad- but i see pidgin implemented it. did the ubuntu team want a more gnome app?
[20:47] <ogreland> i think i will wait till fedora 12
[20:48] <jad> evilbug: historically I would say no
[20:48] <remote> jad: but they don't need to have windows to read an office 2010 document
[20:48] <julianoliver> ogreland: i don't know why there is a regression in your case. it's like XP->Vista. many wireless devices broke with new implementations and kernels.
[20:48] <miguelito12> Well I need some help on "I am having a login problem which might be related to the message on the screen saying sth. like:" GNOME Power Manager- predefined configuration is not installed properly". Can anyone help me on this?"
[20:48] <jad> ubuntu has been pretty good about removing all the Gnome defaults and replacing it with things that work
[20:48] <gunknown> i have firefox and shiretoko installed on my 9.04. What will happen after an upgrade to 9.10?
[20:48] <vlad> xxaronxx: what was your problem again?
[20:48] <ogreland> julianoliver yepp but i have Intel 5100 :)
[20:48] <xxaaronxx> i trying to edit a simple html file, and it wont save...
[20:48] <jad> remote: Ok well how do I get Windows back intothe chainloader?
[20:48] <xxaaronxx> in ubuntu server
[20:48] <martinf> my 9.10 install (x86_32) gets to 95% then has a fatal error on running gnome-install, can anybody advise?
[20:48] <ogreland> i understan if i have some kind realek or bcm based card
[20:49] <remote> jad: what's a chainloader?
[20:49] <moltenbobcat>  henjj, can you ping the ip of the server after establishing your vpn connection?
[20:49] <joaopinto> jad, sudo os-prober && sudo update-grub
[20:49] <thevdi> I just installed 9.10 and now I just have Madonna's borderline playing over and over again out of my speakers and a pound of chopped tomatoes flew out of my CD drive when I rebooted.
[20:49] <jad> joaopinto: Thanks
[20:49] <uCaliginous> Hi
[20:49] <uCaliginous> what is ppa?
[20:49] <henjj> how would I do that?
[20:49] <sharef> im looking for a way to change permissions on an ntfs drive yet chmod and the like doesnt do anything
[20:49] <vlad> try to open it with the terminal. type sudo gedit filelocation/filename.htm
[20:49] <qwyeth> remote, does openoffice really already have support for office 2010 files?
[20:49] <zoldar> hello. After I've turned down color depth to 16 in screen section of xorg, 3d performance improved slightly. However, when running for example a movie on youtube, I can see screen being redrawed, even this xchat window feels sluggish. Any ideas?
[20:49] <Skaperen> remote: a boot loader that loads and runs another boot loader
[20:49] <Dogstar> Random stranger, passing through, just to say - Team Fortress 2 is $2.50 for the next 30 minutes on Steam. Spread the love.
[20:49] <xxaaronxx> i get an error when i use gedit
[20:49] <joaopinto> sharef, you can't change permissions on ntfs, you need to use uid/gid mount options
[20:49] <xxaaronxx> im using edit
[20:49] <julianoliver> ogreland: right. then that should work fine. google around later tonight for people that have the same card and Ubuntu 9.10. you may find a solution. alternatively, just grab the latest compat_wireless and compile yourself.
[20:49] <vlad> use nano
[20:50] <vlad> or vi
[20:50] <xxaaronxx> nano?
[20:50] <moltenbobcat> dogstar: lol awesome
[20:50] <henjj> moltenbobcat, how would I do that?
[20:50] <jad> joaopinto: Is that anywhere on the wiki?
[20:50] <uCaliginous> What does this mean -- "You can update your system with unsupported packages from this untrusted PPA by adding   ppa:directhex/monoxide to your system's Software Sources."
[20:50] <vlad> nano filelocation/filename.htm?
[20:50] <ripps> !ppa
[20:50] <sharef> reason i ask is i have it shared on ftp and dont particularly want it messed with
[20:50] <troubleshooter> Hi I did a fresh install of 9.04 then tried to upgrade to 9.10 it will take 10 hours to 10 days. but I requested a cd and was turned down c_dive@hotmail.com . That is all. Chow
[20:50] <moltenbobcat> henjj: Applications -> accessories -> terminal in command prompt type ping x.x.x.x
[20:50] <ogreland> julianoliver now i'm happy with fedora 11 :)
[20:50] <qwyeth> jad, I run ubuntu in an environment that is pretty much completely windows-based, and for the few programs I need that don't have OSS solutions I run XP in a virtual machine.  It works great.
[20:50] <xxaaronxx> ok let me try that
[20:50] <thevdi> Hi. gnome-schedule doesn't seem to work anymore - it won't let me set a task "in the future" - any ideas?
[20:51] <jad> qwyeth: Agreed and that's where we are headed
[20:51] <julianoliver> ogreland: i have the same card but am using Debian on that hardware. works very well on 2.6.31.
[20:51] <|Roert|> Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 32: mount: block device /dev/sr1 is write-protected, mounting read-only
[20:51] <|Roert|> mount: /dev/sr1 already mounted or /media/WINDEasyConnect  busy
[20:51] <|Roert|> ?
[20:51] <joaopinto> jad, no, it shouldn't be needed, but it seems that in some cases the installer is failing to run os-prober
[20:51] <mikeru> |÷”¬
[20:51] <mathepic> I'm going to upgrade my Ubuntu from Wubi-based to partition-based. Can I install the partitioned base Ubuntu and then remove the Wubi one to prevent loss of data?
[20:51] <lowlux> ANYONE KNOW WHERE I CAN FIND E17 DEBS? LATEST?
[20:51] <arcsky> wubi.exe whats that?
[20:51] <mikeru> €|÷?
[20:51] <ogreland> julianoliver it's not depend on kernel vesrion - deb and rpm based sys are module based
[20:51] <Arvalius> hello guys , i've just installed ubuntu 9.04 but i have problems with wireless network , when i connect with my network says that the connection is established but no internet, any clues?
[20:51] <xxaaronxx> ]
[20:51] <qwyeth> arcsky, wubi is the ubuntu installer packaged to run inside windows
[20:51] <|Roert|> pls help
[20:52] <jad> remote, qwyeth: Much as I'd like to walk with Cds and erase windows off all the computer I come upon in daily life (The Cash register? really?) cooler heads prevail
[20:52] <lowlux> ANYONE KNOW WHERE I CAN FIND E17 DEBS? LATEST?
[20:52] <mathepic> Why would you just install 9.04?
[20:52] <joaopinto> !caps | lowlux
[20:52] <xxaaronxx> i get error writing to var/www/index.html no such file
[20:52] <mathepic> 9.10 just came out. xd
[20:52] <xxaaronxx> but its there!
[20:52] <mikeru> !CAPS
[20:52] <|Roert|> cant connect to the internet whit my huawey usb stik
[20:52] <kazaa_lite> hi all... here is my init script: http://pastebin.com/m1d0aeb1d
[20:52] <knoxville> What program would you guys recommend as mp3 player? I could use a liberary, and that's it.. No fancy stuff like animations or anything.
[20:52] <ogreland> Arvalius : do you use some kind of wireless encryption?
[20:52] <aliendude5300> Anyways, I reported that bug. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/463735
[20:52] <henjj> moltenbobcat:  ok, here is what I get:  "PING x.x.x.x (x.x.x.x) 56(84) bytes of data"
[20:52] <Arvalius> yes
[20:52] <thevdi> Hi. gnome-schedule doesn't seem to work anymore - it won't let me set a task "in the future." If I launch it from terminal, I get a periodic message of "no crontab for <myusername>"  - any ideas?
[20:52] <kazaa_lite> it works from shell but never starts my app on bootup
[20:52] <nhuisman> Hey I have ubuntu 9.10 installed on a system with an ati card and more then 4gbs of ram.  is it possible with the current ati driver to get 3d support and dual monitors?
[20:52] <kazaa_lite> :'(
[20:52] <mikeru> what was that search bar that was included in 7.10 called??
[20:53] <nhuisman> The log file for the ati installer of their website basically says no kernel module found.  I'm using the pae kernel
[20:53] <vlad> xxaaronxx: try with .html
[20:53] <Arvalius> it asks me a password of the network , i enter it but stll same
[20:53] <moltenbobcat> henjj, please put your ip address in instead of x.x.x.x
[20:53] <qwyeth> knoxville, Amarok is awesome
[20:53] <scott_ino2> nhuisman, yes if you install the fglrx drivers
[20:53] <moltenbobcat> henjj: well the ip of the server you are trying to connect to over your vpn
[20:53] <nhuisman> scott_ino2, do those work with 9.10?
[20:53] <julianoliver> ogreland: indeed, the problem is likely not in the kernel's module interface but rather above.
[20:53] <RenatoSilva> what athe the virtualization options in Ubuntu?
[20:53] <|Roert|> Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 32: mount: block device /dev/sr1 is write-protected, mounting read-only
[20:53] <|Roert|> mount: /dev/sr1 already mounted or /media/WINDEasyConnect  busy
[20:53] <ripps> lowlux: http://www.uluga.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1280189
[20:53] <RenatoSilva> Does it come with some default application?
[20:53] <vlad> xxaaronxx: try with .htm
[20:53] <grendal_prime> hey..i need to storesome stuff offsite via  a backup server.  Has anyone here set up a cloud computing storage device via nfs?
[20:53] <knoxville> qwyeth: are you using it yourself? and if I'm updating from 9.04 -> 9.10, does it delete my custom applications?
[20:53] <scott_ino2> nhuisman, yes, go to System/Administration/Hardware drivers, and it will ist the drivers for your card. just click to activate
[20:53] <kenny> ...
[20:53] <nhuisman> scott_ino2, I installed the ati drivers off the website
[20:54] <kenny> hello
[20:54] <nhuisman> scott_ino2,  ya I looked in there before and there was nothing there.
[20:54] <mathepic> So does anyone know if I can install a partition-based Ubuntu before uninstalling my Wubi-one
[20:54] <vlad> xxaaronxx: nano /var/www/index.htm as admin
[20:54] <joaopinto> nhuisman, you shouldn't do that !
[20:54] <scott_ino2> nhuisman, well you can do that as well... and if successful you should have 3d, as for your dual monitors you may have to open the catalyst controlc enter and do it there
[20:54] <grendal_prime> sorry accessable via nfs...basically i want to nfs mount a cloud storage device to my backup server so i can send my backups to that cloud storage device as if it was just another dir onthe server.
[20:54] <nhuisman> scott_ino2, hmm actually though now that I've installed them i see the activate button
[20:54] <dnk> guys what is Can't dispatch DDM chunk 4d505251
[20:54] <kazaa_lite> joaopinto: can you help me as well?
[20:54] <daleharvey> ok, apparently booting from a usb doesnt work
[20:55] <HexGhost> hello, im looking for some help on rsync on ubuntu not correctly copying over newer files, if anyone is familiar with rsync and has a spare second :)
[20:55] <scott_ino2> nhuisman, well you'll need to remove whatever you installed from the site first
[20:55] <nhuisman> joaopinto, I shouldn't install the ati drivers from the website?
[20:55]  * julianoliver notes that Mark needs to sack the designers he's paid to come up with the new theme.
[20:55] <RenatoSilva> what athe the virtualization options in Ubuntu?
[20:55] <RenatoSilva> Does it come with some default application?
[20:55] <nhuisman> and then use the ones in aptitude?
[20:55] <thevdi> Hi. gnome-schedule doesn't seem to work anymore - it won't let me set a task "in the future." If I launch it from terminal, I get a periodic message of "no crontab for <myusername>" If I try "crontab -e", I get nano opening with a  file in /tmp/crontab.blah and it contains '# m h  dom mon dow   command' only - any ideas?
[20:55] <joaopinto> nhuisman, no you shouldn't, you should use the version available from the repositories, which was properly tested
[20:55] <nhuisman> ok i'll try it
[20:55] <kazaa_lite> anyone willing to help me?
[20:55] <dehaani> if I download from a mirror, does it come in back to front? like big endian?
[20:55] <scott_ino2> nhuisman, either install via the "hardware drivers" area or via synaptic. aptitude should work also but ive never used it so i can't speak for that
[20:56] <packet-sent> maybe there is no future!!!
[20:56] <sharef> is there a safe way to quickly convert a fs from ntfs to ext3?
[20:56] <knoxville> If I'm updating my 9.04 ubuntu -> 9.10 ubuntu, will it delete my custom applications?
[20:56] <magra> why do i get sudo: apt: command not found when i type sudo apt -get install openssh-server
[20:56] <dehaani> hasn't 9.10 found it's way to gb.archive.ubuntu.com?
[20:56] <kazaa_lite> it has taken me 6 hours and this shit thing is still now working
[20:56] <vlad> xxaaronxx: nano /var/www/index.htm  or index.html if doesn´t work. Tell me if it works for you
[20:56] <qwyeth> knoxville, yes, I use Amarok for my music library at home.  I ran the upgrade to 9.10 a few days ago and Amarok was unaffected.
[20:56] <nhuisman> scott_ino2, ya i usually use the hardware drivers area but it was blank.
[20:56] <joaopinto> sharef, backup and restore
[20:56] <julianoliver> RenatoSilva: i'd look at external solutions, like VirtualBox.
[20:56] <mathepic> theres no space in apt-get
[20:56] <magra> aha ok
[20:56] <sharef> dont have the storage for that ><
[20:56] <knoxville> qwyeth: Thanks friend!
[20:56] <thevdi> Virtualbox works a treat
[20:56] <BUGabundo> bRoas
[20:56] <manitou> is it karmic-moblin-remix final out ?
[20:56] <BUGabundo> ohhh
[20:56] <nhuisman> ok, uninstalled the fglrx via the fglrx-uninstall.sh script in /usr/share/ati, now i'll install via aptitude and reboot
[20:56] <guntbert> magra: its apt-get (not apt -get)
[20:56] <Mka> !language|kazaa_lite
[20:57] <nellmathew> anyone up upgraded to ubuntu 9.10.. can you goto software center, type in vlc and double click on it (don't install)?.. thinking about reporting a bug.
[20:57] <BUGabundo> I didn't manage to say good bye too ppl on +1 :(
[20:57] <julianoliver> nhuisman: 'sudo apt-get update' and you should see a little prompt come up asking you to install the driver.
[20:57] <kazaa_lite> Mka: oka
[20:57] <HenZo> Just updated from Jaunty to Karmic and there's no Firefox menu item in the Applications->Internet menu. Did an apt-get remove on all old Firefox packages and --reinstall install on ubufox and still no menu icon. Anyone else experience this? What gives?
[20:57] <thevdi> Hi. gnome-schedule doesn't seem to work anymore - it won't let me set a task "in the future." If I launch it from terminal, I get a periodic message of "no crontab for <myusername>" If I try "crontab -e", I get nano opening with a  file in /tmp/crontab.blah and it contains '# m h  dom mon dow   command' only - any ideas?
[20:57] <RenatoSilva> julianoliver: but it doesn't come with any solution or sugegsted one in synaptic?
[20:57] <magra> yeah thanks, it sez apt -get on a homepage..haha well well now its working thanks....pretty new to this =)
[20:57] <nhuisman> ah here is the issue i had with the pae kernel and the aptitude version
[20:57] <nhuisman> Error! Could not locate fglrx.ko for module fglrx in the DKMS tree.
[20:57] <nhuisman> You must run a dkms build for kernel 2.6.31-14-generic-pae (i686) first.
[20:57] <RenatoSilva> does u9.10 come with FF 3.5?
[20:57] <julianoliver> RenatoSilva: i don't know. perhaps qemu, though that's more work.
[20:58] <mathepic> RenatoSilva: yes
[20:58] <RenatoSilva> \o/
[20:58] <jad> remote, qwyeth: Linux kernel panicing every 15 minutes doesn't help either :)
[20:58] <nhuisman> hmm ok looks like the kernel source is missing
[20:58] <nhuisman> i'll install that
[20:58] <RenatoSilva> julianoliver: ok thanks
[20:58] <qwyeth> Hm... adobe flash is being problematic on my clean install of karmic.  The installer didn't work, and now when I try to remove the package in synaptic I get:
[20:58] <RenatoSilva> mathepic: thanks
[20:58] <qwyeth> E: adobe-flashplugin: subprocess installed pre-removal script returned error exit status 2
[20:58] <RenatoSilva> thanks all
[20:58] <mathepic> Yay finished burning my 9.10 cd
[20:58] <qwyeth> jad, what the heck did you do to break it then?
[20:58] <RenatoSilva> high traffic channel this one, should have temp thread sub-channels
[20:58] <kazaa_lite> any good person who can help me in starting my app at boot time?
[20:58] <jad> qwyeth: The Intel Driver is messed up
[20:58] <|Roert|> can help me someone whit my huawei stick ?
[20:59] <ripps> qwyeth: try dpkg -r adobe-flashplugin
[20:59] <vlad> what is the cmd for `logout` in ubuntu
[20:59] <oroszg> hi do you know anybody whenn will xbmc available for 9.10
[20:59] <oroszg> ?
[20:59] <julianoliver> nhuisman: see the release notes regarding a problem with restricted drivers.
[20:59] <Skaperen> vlad: exit
[20:59] <SJr> Excellent, 21 hours left to upgrade, I hate Canada
[20:59] <Skaperen> vlad: but logout should work, too
[20:59] <ks3> kazaa_lite: You can add it to /etc/rc.local
[20:59] <vlad> ty
[20:59] <actafool> how can i update mu 9.04 to 9.10 ?
[20:59] <kazaa_lite> ks3: i added it there as well but did not work
[20:59] <guntbert> vlad: and ctrl+d too
[20:59] <thevdi> Hi. gnome-schedule doesn't seem to work anymore - it won't let me set a task "in the future." If I launch it from terminal, I get a periodic message of "no crontab for <myusername>" If I try "crontab -e", I get nano opening with a  file in /tmp/crontab.blah and it contains '# m h  dom mon dow   command' only - any ideas?
[21:00] <vlad> ty
[21:00] <kazaa_lite> ks3: have you seen my script?
[21:00] <SJr> How likely is it that my system needs to download 2.8 Gigs to upgrade?
[21:00] <ripps> !upgrade | actafool
[21:00] <actafool> thanks
[21:00] <ks3> kazaa_lite: No
[21:00] <SJr> That seems a bit excessive
[21:00] <jad> SJr: quite likely
[21:00] <qwyeth> ripps, that command fails like so: http://pastebin.org/49376
[21:00] <kazaa_lite> ks3: http://pastebin.com/m1d0aeb1d have a look
[21:00] <scott_ino2> julianoliver, he's using a ppa not the official release
[21:00] <scott_ino2> for hte driver
[21:00] <jad> SJr: You are updating every package yuo ahve ever installed
[21:00] <SJr> jad, and is it likely that I can only get about 25.4 kb/s
[21:00] <HenZo> Nobody else experiencing the missing Firefox menu item issue?
[21:00] <joaopinto> SJr, not really, since you are upgrading most of the packages on your current system
[21:00] <Arvalius> Hello once again . i'm new to linux , i've installed ubuntu 9.04 and i tried to connect wireless to my network which is protected.so when i try to connect i press the pass and it connects me with success.the problem is that despite that i'm connected to my network i don not have internet.thanks in advance
[21:00] <jad> SJr: Welcome to release day rush
[21:01] <julianoliver> scott_ino2: i see
[21:01] <ks3> kazaa_lite: Ahhh, that wouldn't go in rc.local
[21:01] <Skaperen> Arvalius: time to get 9.10
[21:01]  * julianoliver notes "Package list must be manually refreshed before installing drivers" from: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/910
[21:02] <Arvalius> hm...
[21:02] <dehaani> so, when 9.10 was released today... were there any further updates since two days ago?
[21:02] <kazaa_lite> ks3: then how to make my app start when ubuntu boots up? my this script is in /etc/init.c and my script has chmod 777 as well
[21:02] <iPanda> I can't install flushplugin-installer using apt-get because i get this error: E: Some packages could not be authenticated -- what can i do?
[21:02] <julianoliver> that should save some people time waiting for restricted drivers prompting to be triggered.
[21:02] <scott_ino2> dehaani, as for me, as of yeterday at 4pm there weren't any updates
[21:02] <ZykoticK9> thevdi, what version of ubuntu are you using?  9.04 doesn't seem to have gnome-schedule (in menu or from terminal), not sure about 9.10 - only have UNR version installed so far (it's not there either BTW)
[21:02] <oleo> #ubuntu-release-party
[21:02] <dehaani> thank you scott_ino2
[21:02] <apparle> is UXA the default acceleration method for intel ?
[21:02] <ripps> qwyeth: hmmm.. try dpkg --purge adobe-flashplugin
[21:02] <joaopinto> dehaani, yes, but nothing like checking for updates from the update manager
[21:02] <bonez46> I am reading on ubuntu's site about the Software Center.. yet I can't find that on my system...
[21:02] <jad> dehaani: Nope you did the smart thing
[21:02] <watskeburten> how do i get 9.10 from 9.04? distupgrd isnt working. it isnt giving me 9.10, it gives me 9.04 as most recent (I currently have 9.04   installed). update-manager -d tells me I can get, but "9.10 is still BETA" :/ though ubuntu.com says otherwise.....  so how do I get   9.10 stable, from 9.04? Install command for CLI prefered.
[21:03] <oleo> heh, forgot the jump
[21:03] <nhuisman> blah, why would they disable ctrl+alt+backspace, grr
[21:03] <bonez46> where is the Software-Center?
[21:03] <nhuisman> hehe
[21:03] <jad> !upgrade | watskeburten
[21:03] <thevdi> ZykoticK9: Well, I'm actually using Linux Mint Gloria (7) which I suppose is based on 9.04
[21:03] <dehaani> I'm using apt-get with gb.archive.ubuntu.com
[21:03] <qwyeth> ripps, same thing
[21:03] <watskeburten> thanks jad
[21:03] <ks3> kazaa_lite: You need to link it into the rc?.d directory - probably /etc/rc2.d - ln -s /etc/init.d/script_name /etc/rc2.d/S99script_name
[21:03] <dehaani> and there's nothing
[21:03] <scott_ino2> nhuisman, there's a simple one click fix for that
[21:03] <linxeh> watskeburten: i guess your mirror hasnt updated or something yet
[21:03] <uFo-Zz> i updated from 9.04 to 9.10. installed UNR with apt. where i can change the desktop to UNR ? there is no icon anymore ?
[21:03] <ks3> kazaa_lite: Although in my view, it would be easier to just add "/usr/sbin/hello" to /etc/rc.local
[21:04] <vlad> i need a white gnome logo icon that i could use on my gnome top  panel. Anyone got one?
[21:04] <knoxville> Is there any official or unofficial backtrack channel?
[21:04] <scott_ino2> nhuisman, http://lifehacker.com/5385615/restore-ctrl+alt+backspace-behavior-in-ubuntu-910
[21:04] <nhuisman> scott_ino2, ya i found it in the release notes
[21:04] <nhuisman> thx
[21:04] <kazaa_lite> ks3: i did update-rc.d my_scripts defaults to get all ssymlinks
[21:04] <scott_ino2> k
[21:04] <thevdi> ZykoticK9, if you type "sudo apt-get install gnome-schedule", it is in the ubuntu repo, I think
[21:04] <nhuisman> just annoying that they would take that out.
[21:04] <apparle> anyone here, whose intel graphics didn't work in 9.04 and is working in 9.10
[21:04] <nhuisman> i guess too many people press it and go wtf.
[21:04] <ZykoticK9> thevdi, perhaps - sorry i don't assist with non-Ubuntu issues.  best of luck.
[21:04] <julianoliver> nhuisman: for you and i maybe, not for countless thousands ;)
[21:05] <xrandr> so, is 9.10 officially released?
[21:05] <ks3> kazaa_lite: If you run 'invoke-rc.d scriptname start', does it start?
[21:05] <scott_ino2> nhuisman, i mean i never need to do it really so...
[21:05] <nhuisman> silly windows users :p
[21:05] <julianoliver> xrandr: yes
[21:05] <ripps> qwyeth: hmm... this person might be seeing what your having http://blog.ixti.ru/archives/6
[21:05] <qwyeth> nhuisman, I remember thinking it was annoying back in the day when windows made ctrl+alt+delete not hard-reboot a system anymore
[21:05] <pablo___> Ok making some good progress with 9.10 today and this place has helped. How do I go about geting the Compiz control pannel in Koala
[21:05] <packet-sent> apparle: myintel drivers now have 3d acceleration whereas before in 9.04 they did not
[21:05] <h4f2> will apt-p2p do it faster ?
[21:05]  * scott_ino2 is sad i have to turn off my other machine after 74 days to do an upgrade
[21:05] <kazaa_lite> ks3: lemme try
[21:05] <xrandr> ok, for us using the beta version, what do we have to do to get to the live version?
[21:05] <nhuisman> qwyeth, ya so make a popup come up
[21:05] <jad> SJr: I"m getting 100k right now
[21:05] <nhuisman> qwyeth, like they did with the task maanager in windows
[21:05] <thevdi> ZykoticK9, I suspect it isn't an issue unique to Mint somehow.
[21:05] <theoo> how to load mod_rewrite in apache2?
[21:05] <guntbert> !ot | nhuisman
[21:05] <apparle> packet-sent: and did it start right out of the box
[21:06] <bobsaccamano> hi...where can i find documentation for apache 2.2 in ubuntu?
[21:06] <ripps> qwyeth: when your done use flashplugin-installer to install flash next time
[21:06] <julianoliver> theoo: #apache
[21:06] <packet-sent> apparle: yup
[21:06] <qwyeth> ripps, thanks for the link, trying it out now
[21:06] <nhuisman> how is that off topic? i'm talking about ubuntu... silly
[21:06] <nhuisman> oh, sorry i get it.
[21:06] <kazaa_lite> ks3: yes it gets started, should i add this line to local.rc?
[21:06] <apparle> packet-sent: can you check and tell if UXA is running in xorg logs
[21:06] <guntbert> nhuisman: :)
[21:06] <nhuisman> :)
[21:07] <need_help> hello how i can upgrade my ubuntu! what is the command thx
[21:07] <xrandr> also, my wireless card is only getting a link speed of 1 mbps. How can I "up" that?
[21:07] <ks3> kazaa_lite: That would be one option, but make sure rc.local is executable - chmod 0755 /etc/rc.local
[21:07] <timdot> well i have to say guys, i'm very impressed :)
[21:07] <thevdi> Hi. gnome-schedule doesn't seem to work anymore - it won't let me set a task "in the future." (Task that involves downloading 9.10 overnight ;-)) If I launch it from terminal, I get a periodic message of "no crontab for <myusername>" If I try "crontab -e", I get nano opening with a  file in /tmp/crontab.blah and it contains '# m h  dom mon dow   command' only - any ideas?
[21:07] <julianoliver> timdot: ;)
[21:07] <kazaa_lite> ks3: lemme try
[21:07] <ks3> kazaa_lite: That would make it appear that the symlinks in the /etc/rc?.d directories didn't get created properly
[21:07] <timdot> i had a little hiccup when trying to do both an encrypted HDD and encrypted home dir.. (i got a bit carried away :P)
[21:07] <queso_> Is there an appropriate channel for me to ask a question related to the GPL?
[21:08] <pipegeek> Not to beat a dead horse, but .... I mean, I guess I can just add it, but is there any reason basic message formatting was excluded from empathy IM?
[21:08] <SandGorgon> oh hey.. Team Fortress 2 for $2.49 for next 2 hours (http://store.steampowered.com/app/440/ ) . Gold compatible with wine - http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=5823
[21:08] <timdot> but it was all fab when i got rid of home dir encryption
[21:08] <pipegeek> like, /italic/, *bold* at least
[21:08] <jad> queso_: Fsf ?
[21:08] <DanaG> http://colin.guthr.ie/2009/10/kde-plus-pulseaudio-does-not-equal-sucks/
[21:08] <qwyeth> ripps, Thanks, that worked!  I bow to your google-fu.
[21:08] <spiraliz> i got the same problem as xrandr , with two different cards
[21:08] <jad> queso_: #fsf sorry
[21:08] <DanaG> hmm, when can I get these features?
[21:08] <h4f2> any one tried apt-p2p to update to karmic ?
[21:08] <queso_> jad: thanks :)
[21:08] <joevandyk> i heard about a nginx vulnerability.  how can i tell if my ubuntu 8.04 system has had that update applied?
[21:08] <kazaa_lite> ks3: ummm....... should i remove all symlinks and create them manually and then try rebooting?
[21:08] <guntbert> SandGorgon: no announcements please
[21:08] <xrandr> spiraliz: yeah. I got a netgear wireless-g card.
[21:08] <pablo___> Is there compizconfig-settings-manager fro karmic?
[21:08] <joevandyk> is there a way i can use apt to see all the changes to a package?
[21:09] <zibi9797> hello
[21:09] <scott_ino2> pablo__, yes
[21:09] <scott_ino2> it's there
[21:09] <need_help> hello how i can upgrade my ubuntu! what is the command thx
[21:09] <julianoliver> timdot: perhaps you can encrypt $HOME later.. may be tricky though..
[21:09] <ChogyDan> need_help: upgrade-manager -c
[21:09] <zibi9797> i try to install kramic but when i'm boot this cd I have some troubles
[21:09] <timdot> julianoliver, it doesn't matter - i've got an encrypted HDD
[21:09] <ks3> kazaa_lite: What shows up from 'ls /etc/rc?.d/*scriptname'
[21:09] <julianoliver> timdot: right, of course.
[21:09] <_Trullo> stupid question, but when following a guide and it says jaunty I have to replace that with karmic right?
[21:09] <need_help> ChogyDan -bash: upgrade-manager: command not found
[21:09] <timdot> i was just being a bit over the top :p
[21:09] <julianoliver> timdot: easily done ;)
[21:10] <timdot> :p
[21:10] <pablo___> scott_ino2: I am not finding it in Synaptic
[21:10] <xrandr> any answers for this?
[21:10] <zibi9797> when I chose install there was a small ubuntu icon and then was some kind of mistakes on screen i don't see anythib
[21:10] <thevdi> Hi. gnome-schedule doesn't seem to work anymore - it won't let me set a task "in the future." (Task that involves downloading 9.10 overnight ;-)) If I launch it from terminal, I get a periodic message of "no crontab for <myusername>" If I try "crontab -e", I get nano opening with a  file in /tmp/crontab.blah and it contains '# m h  dom mon dow   command' only - any ideas?
[21:10] <bonez46> anyone else know where the Software-Center lives?
[21:10] <zibi9797> can anybody help mi?
[21:10] <timdot> this is sexy anyway, whilst i thoroughly do not agree with using tonnes of system resources for aesthetics.. it looks very, very swish :)
[21:10] <pablo___> scott_ino2: do i need to add a repository?
[21:10] <bonez46> how do I updated my menu so that it reflects all the cool new features of 9.10?
[21:11] <timdot> and i was half tempted to keep the swish effects on :p
[21:11] <ripps> need_help: it's update-manager, not upgrade-manager
[21:11] <scott_ino2> pablo__, compizconfig-settings-manager
[21:11] <jad> zibi9797: Ask your question
[21:11] <bonez46> ripps: how does one update the Applications Menu?
[21:11] <kazaa_lite> rc0/1/6 have K20script_name and rc2/3/4/5 hace S20script_name
[21:11] <a-865> where do you disable the confirmation for logout of KDE?
[21:11] <bonez46> ripps: mine appears to not have all the changes and features that it should
[21:11] <apparle> is UXA the default acceleration method in karmic
[21:12] <kazaa_lite> ks3: rc0/1/6 have K20script_name and rc2/3/4/5 hace S20script_name
[21:12] <Dayofswords> woah! its out
[21:12] <ripps> bonez46: it should usually be done automatically... try `killall gnome-panel`
[21:12] <pablo___> scott_ino2: no results when I seach for that
[21:12] <JediMaster> amd64 will work fine on a core2duo right?
[21:12] <DarkDawn1> yes it will
[21:12] <Brent^> sooooo, funny story time. A friend of mine wanted to install windows 7, so he started by backign up all his files to his ubuntu server... which was running in a VM image on his vista intall. So about half way into his Windows 7 install, he realised what he did... I swear I could hear him screaming "NOOOO" from here :D
[21:12] <JediMaster> ta
[21:12] <bradland> Hiya all :)
[21:12] <bonez46> ripps: won't that kill my gnome too, and gdm?
[21:12] <zibi9797> when I'm boot ubuntu 9.10 i have that small icon and then i have some bad things on my screen i don't see anyching
[21:12] <thevdi> Cheers for the help!
[21:12] <scott_ino2> pablo__, refresh your lists
[21:12] <bradland> I just read something I don't understand... imagine that
[21:13] <bradland> "In either case, remember you don't need to assign (*and don't want to) an IP
[21:13] <bradland> address to the monitoring interface"
[21:13] <ripps> bonez46: no that will initiate restart of your panel and all it's applets, including the menu
[21:13] <pipegeek> also, is there any way to configure logging in empathy
[21:13] <pipegeek> ?
[21:13] <bradland> How does one "not assign" an IP to an interface?
[21:13] <eitreach> Ubuntu cannot find any hardware drivers for my nvidia geforce 8600GT. What can be the problem?
[21:13] <magra> what is the command for changing the sshd_config file in terminal??
[21:13] <Brent^> disconnevt it?
[21:13] <ks3> kazaa_lite: Does the program use networking?
[21:13] <jad> zibi9797: You have an icon?
[21:13] <wsch> bradland, you dont want to use it?
[21:13] <pipegeek> also, would be nice if one could import one's accounts from pidgin
[21:13] <pablo___> scott_ino2: ohoh i bet it because I install 64-bit version
[21:13] <guntbert> !ot | Brent^
[21:13] <kazaa_lite> nopes, but needs root privileges to run
[21:14] <scott_ino2> pablo__, im on 64 bit
[21:14] <scott_ino2> shouldn't matter
[21:14] <bastidrazor> magra: you would edit it with vim or nano or even with gedit (gui)
[21:14] <kazaa_lite> ks3: nopes does not need networking, but needs root privileges
[21:14] <ks3> kazaa_lite: Hmmm, I was just wondering if it's trying to start too early in the boot process
[21:14] <bradland> wsch: well, this is going to be used for nTop monitoring, so supposedly the interface should be A) in promiscuous mode, and B) not have an IP
[21:14] <zibi9797> jad:yes i have this icon
[21:14] <ks3> kazaa_lite: You could try creating the S scripts as S99 instead of S20 and test that
[21:14] <dAnon> will using 64 bit ubuntu get me more performance?
[21:14] <jad> zibi9797: Perhaps X crashed?
[21:14] <cwillu_at_work> is there any way to get compiz to use "non sloppy" focus-follows-mouse?
[21:14] <rosebj> dAnon generally, yes
[21:14] <cwillu_at_work> i.e., where the active window is unfocused when the cursor leaves
[21:15] <kazaa_lite> ks3: whats the difference between S20 and S90?
[21:15] <cwillu_at_work> even if the mouse cursor isn't over another window
[21:15] <dAnon> will using 64 bit ubuntu get me more performance? My processor is 4000+ Athlon X2
[21:15] <xrandr> Ok, the driver i'm using for my wireless card is ath5k for my netgear WPN311 card. But I'm only getting (according to the network manager) 1mbps on it. Anyway to increase this, update the driver, or use a better driver associated with this card?
[21:15] <acid_> Русские есть?
[21:15] <jad> kazaa_lite: 90 starts later
[21:15] <jad> !ru | acid_
[21:15] <ks3> kazaa_lite: Scripts are ran in numerical order, so S20 is ran before S21, and so on
[21:15] <syk> i just installed ubuntu 9.10 and im having trouble installing software, in ubuntu software center when i click a app i just get a loading icon, and in terminal i try to install like xchat and it tells me package not found
[21:15] <magra> bastidrazor: ok,in x i can acces it but cant save it because i dont have rights to it but in terminal i can use sudo...?? as i told you im new to this
[21:15] <kazaa_lite> ks3: cool... lemme try this
[21:15] <jad> sapispbo!
[21:15] <CarlFK> what is the command (something like dpkg) to generate a xorg.conf?
[21:15] <neohelix> is there an app like rmclock for linux? i am using ubuntu for the first time and it's annoying that i can't switch the cpu voltage easily with a tool
[21:15] <acid_> Jad что?
[21:16] <neohelix> this cpu frequ scaling monitor in gnome is pretty useless...
[21:16] <bastidrazor> magra: yes if you're using vim/nano use sudo if you are going to use gedit use gksudo
[21:16] <bastidrazor> magra: sudo vim /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[21:16] <xrandr> CarlFK: dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server
[21:16] <wsch> bradland, sorry no idea of that
[21:16] <CarlFK> xrandr: that;s it  thanks.
[21:17] <bradland> wsch: no problem. thanks for looking though :)
[21:17] <xrandr> CarlFK: np :D
[21:17] <wsch> bradland, something to wrrite in /etc/network/interfaces im guessing
[21:17] <wsch> iirc even
[21:17] <bradland> wsch: i think i found something
[21:17] <bastidrazor> magra: gedit would be much easier if you're new.. gksudo gedit /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[21:17] <wsch> bradland, please do share :p
[21:17] <DanaG> weird... for the same approximate settings, kwin is way slower than compiz.
[21:17] <bradland> scroll down to the line that says "auto eth1" on this page http://www.hurricanelabs.com/december2008_story_3
[21:17] <DanaG> WAY way slower.
[21:17] <wsch> thanx Bracki
[21:18] <wsch> bradland,
[21:18] <CarlFK> xrandr:  "/usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: xorg-server is not installed"  (full karmic install..)
[21:18] <bradland> wsch: amazingly, this is the best documentation i've seen to date! haha
[21:18] <a-865> where do you disable the confirmation for logout of KDE?
[21:18] <magra> bastidrazor: thanks again!! =)
[21:18] <pablo___> scott_ino2: i am so lame. I didnt reload.
[21:18] <scott_ino2> pablo__, all is well though
[21:18] <wsch> bradland, yeah nice find, im gonna bookmark it
[21:19] <CrocoJet> someone here has webcam working at ubuntu 9.10 ?
[21:19] <phoenixz> Hi there, my dad just bought an HP 5380 combi printer. it works great, scans, etc.. All is fine, but he wants to print photos on special photo paper and that part doesnt work. The photo paper is in another tray. When trying to print on A4 format, all goed well. When selecting the photo paper, the paper gets picked up, runs though the printer (without being printed on) and a printer led is flashing.. How can this issue be resolved? Anybody who has an
[21:19] <phoenixz>  idea? He's using Ubuntu 8.10
[21:19] <wsch> full of nice stuff to try once i have some time
[21:19] <Wipster> hey all, I'm having a bit of a trouble with error underlining text in telepathy which are not underlined here in xchat, is my library misconfigured? I'm using 9.10 32bit
[21:19] <joevandyk> hm, it doesn't look like ubuntu has an bug fix for http://seclists.org/fulldisclosure/2009/Oct/306 yet?
[21:19] <CrocoJet> I have "Bus 004 Device 002: ID 0ac8:0302 Z-Star Microelectronics Corp. ZC0302 Webcam"
[21:19] <wsch> grub wont boot, how can i fix it?
[21:19] <bradland> wsch: if you've got a switch capable of mirroring traffic, you should definitely check out nTop. I picked up an old SMC TigerSwitch (managed switch) for $30 on eBay
[21:19] <dAnon> Quake Wars ran perfectly on 8.10, when upgraded to 9.04 it started dropping fps in fire fights, had clean install of 9.04 before and same thing occured
[21:19] <wsch> this is a fresh install of 9.10RC, and i installed grub only on the partition
[21:20] <ChogyDan> wsch: get any errors?
[21:20] <Wipster> sorry not telepathy, empathy my bad
[21:20] <CrocoJet> I think that Samsung Pleomax is totally compatible with linux, right?
[21:20] <xrandr> CarlFK: dpkg --reconfigure xorg-server
[21:20] <dAnon> Quake Wars ran perfectly on 8.10, when upgraded to 9.04 it started dropping fps in fire fights, had clean install of 9.04 before and same thing occured what can be the cause of this?
[21:20] <wsch> ChogyDan, no it changes to CLI extremely fast
[21:20] <syk> i just installed ubuntu 9.10 and im having trouble installing software, in ubuntu software center when i click a app i just get a loading icon and when it does load there is no install button and in terminal i try to install like xchat and it tells me package not found
[21:20] <offspring> erh, hello. when i try to open Add/Remove aplications i get "This is a serious error in your system for software management. Please check for broken packages with synaptic, check permissions, check that the file "/ etc / apt / sources.list" is properly and reload the software information with: 'sudo apt-get update "and" sudo apt-get install-f "
[21:20] <offspring> meaning i cant actually do anything, tried to do what it said but no luck, any suggestions?
[21:21] <acid_> !ru
[21:21] <wsch> bradland, nice, i got a neat professional modem/router, maybe that can do things liek this
[21:21] <CarlFK> xrandr: dpkg: unknown option --reconfigure
[21:21] <dr3mro> hi all i am downloading now ubuntu 9.10 and using ubuntu 9.04 asking if any one used it on fujitsu siemsn amilo pi 1505 and tell me if there is a problem ???
[21:21] <phoenixz> offspring: open a shell, and execute sudo apt-get update
[21:21] <wsch> bradland, a speedtouch 510 equivalent, its actually a flashed 510 :p
[21:21] <xrandr> CarlFK: ok, try --configure then...
[21:21] <phoenixz> offspring: first see if that works
[21:21] <offspring> a shell?
[21:21] <bradland> wsch: mmmmm, good stuff
[21:21] <phoenixz> offspring: if that gives you problems, we have to look in another direction
[21:21] <phoenixz> offspring: text console
[21:21] <CarlFK> xrandr: or... all I really need is enough to set HorizSync and VertRefesh to maybe 31-40 and 50-85 respectively
[21:21] <CrocoJet> Bitdefender anti virus do not works in new ubuntu
[21:21] <deco> when trying to find youtube videos in movie player i get this error "can't find host name"
[21:22] <phoenixz> offspring: A terminal
[21:22] <xrandr> CarlFK: then do that.
[21:22] <wsch> bradland, it can give me TONS of details of my ADSL line, so if i call my ISP i probably know more about the line then the moron on the other side :D
[21:22] <deco> when trying to find youtube videos in movie player i get this error "can't find host name"
[21:22] <deco> sorry had some typos
[21:22] <suris> hello, I'm using two monitors, in each others panel is notification area, but icons doesn't appear in the second one, when i start program, i have tried different program, like opera or transmission..
[21:22] <d0wn> Has anyone gotten any nasty bugs during the upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10 that would make me want to wait a little longer?
[21:22] <wsch> last time it was a woman that said my speedtouch 510 was ADSL2 capable lol
[21:22] <leaf-sheep> CrocoJet: Silly antiviruses are for Windows.
[21:22] <AaronMT> Downloading 9.10 @ 5kb/sec off the main site - - fantastic
[21:22] <X-TaZ> Just installed 9.10. I'm surprised Grub is not de version2. Its 1.94 Beta 4 :x Why this ?
[21:22] <xrandr> !patience | deco
[21:22] <asfas> a
[21:22] <asfas> меня видно?
[21:22] <guntbert> !ot wsch
[21:23] <pipegeek> Interesting
[21:23] <jnassifg> ubuntu asks for the root password too much.
[21:23] <jnassifg> why?
[21:23] <wsch> guntbert, lol leanr the bot
[21:23] <xrandr> !ru | asfas
[21:23] <deco> xrandr: i fixed a typo wasn't to repeat my question
[21:23] <wsch> gunknown, its !offtopic
[21:23] <phoenixz> !ru | asfas
[21:23] <bonez46> what about flash and shockwave? that all worked when I had firefox 3.0.x but now with 3.5.3 none of the animation, the flash stuff is all broken
[21:23] <jnassifg> s/root/administrative/
[21:23] <wsch> :p
[21:23] <bradland> !ot | guntbert
[21:23] <asfas> xrandr, thx
[21:23] <spO> what is the difference between karmic ubuntu today and karmic ubuntu tomorrow ?  Can you tell me a list of the bug fixes?
[21:23] <jnassifg>  ubuntu asks for the administrative password too much.
[21:23] <wsch> gunknown, sorry wrong highlight
[21:23] <jnassifg> your password. it asks for your password too much.
[21:23] <mtraker> Why do you think is it better ubuntu tu fedora?
[21:23] <jnassifg> Why?
[21:23] <bradland> :)
[21:23] <vensign> AaronMT: use the torrent files
[21:24] <phoenixz> jnassifg: What are you trying to do exactly?
[21:24] <guntbert> wsch: clumsy fingers  here :)
[21:24] <offspring> right phoenixz, it told me to enter my password so i did, but then this came up "E: Type 'order' is unknown in line 57 in source list / etc / apt / sources.list"
[21:24] <CrocoJet> mtraker, or sure !
[21:24] <pipegeek> empathy just got into an unusable state withing five minutes of switching.  the "Contact" menu on a conversation opened but didn't draw, and from that point on it was impossible to switch windows or enter text anywhere on the screen
[21:24] <AaronMT> vensign: Too many leechers
[21:24] <pipegeek> until I killed empathy
[21:24] <bradleyhankins> Hello everyone, I just installed Ubuntu 9.10 but I am unable to connect to my wireless Internet. How can I turn on my wireless Internet on my computer?
[21:24] <apparle> packet-sent: can you check and tell if UXA is running in xorg logs
[21:24] <joaopinto> jnassifg, it only asks when an administrative task is required
[21:24] <Flannel> X-TaZ: Because that's the most recent GRUB (that is "GRUB2" right now)
[21:24] <NeoMatrixJR> Anyone tried the 9.10 UNR?  I'm having some trouble with it.
[21:24] <nonix4> !torrents
[21:24] <wsch> guntbert, lol i can see
[21:24] <X-TaZ> Ok
[21:24] <vensign> AaronMT: you can limit the up bandwith use
[21:24] <mtraker> CrocoJet, not sure I want to see a comparative
[21:24] <wsch> gunknown, well since nobody helps me and i need to watch every sentence i say here (and constantly try not to swear) its best i leave
[21:24] <roxlu> hi, does someone knows if it's possible to executs "ls" on a remote machine?
[21:25] <wsch> debian here i come
[21:25] <X-TaZ> Another question : is there a specific irc chan for the netbook remix ? I have a bug with the light level ,permanently mooving
[21:25] <petarVeliki> hello
[21:25] <kubuntuser> roxlu: you need to use ssh
[21:25] <roxlu> kubuntuser: it's possibel with ssh?
[21:25] <roxlu> how do I execute that?
[21:25] <CrocoJet> mtraker, fedora ... always lot bugs
[21:25] <nick> roxlu: yes
[21:25] <petarVeliki> i just installed ubuntu 9.10, having some trouble installing flash plugin...
[21:25] <kubuntuser> roxlu: ssh allows you to have a remote shell and run any linux command
[21:25] <syk> i just installed ubuntu 9.10 and im having trouble installing software, in ubuntu software center when i click a app i just get a loading icon and when it does load there is no install button and in terminal i try to install like xchat and it tells me package not found
[21:25] <kubuntuser> roxlu: is it a server or desktop?
[21:25] <jlewka> .
[21:26] <roxlu> server
[21:26] <syk> cant install nothing :\
[21:26] <jlewka> эх.. систему преустоновил но квака все равно лагает((((((((((
[21:26] <Shibblet> Anyone having problems installing the NBR of Karmic?
[21:26] <spO> How many updates will happen from today until tomorrow.... how come you cannot release it today?
[21:26] <kubuntuser> roxlu: are you using a linux machine now?
[21:26] <ro_> hmm I just installed xchat using apt-get like a minute ago
[21:26] <ro_> worked fine
[21:26] <guntbert> !ru | jlewka
[21:26] <roxlu> yes
[21:26] <syk> ro_ doesnt for me
[21:26] <nick> syk: sudo apt-get update
[21:27] <kubuntuser> roxlu: open a terminal and type "ssh username@host.ip"
[21:27] <xrandr> how can I tell if ndis is loading a module or not?
[21:27] <kubuntuser> roxlu: you need to replace the username and host
[21:27] <petarVeliki> i wasn't be able to install anything in beginning too, but now all seems to work good, except flash plugin...
[21:27] <jennie_alex> how can i access the ubuntu source code for ls command
[21:27] <diogo_79> hi guys
[21:27] <roxlu> ah.. kubuntuser yeah I know that, but sorry, I meant from a script
[21:27] <Tohuw> !hello | diogo_79
[21:27] <diogo_79> i have ubuntu 9.04 64 bits and firefox 3.0
[21:27] <diogo_79> but i whant to install firefox latest version
[21:27] <kubuntuser> roxlu: ah, now I understand
[21:27] <bonez46> kubuntuser: any suggestions about animation stuff.. with firefox 3.5.3? I am on an amd 64 machine..  and when I attempt to upgrade.. it fails
[21:27] <diogo_79> can this be accomplish
[21:28] <kubuntuser> roxlu: you are on one machine, and want to ssh in a script to do ls?
[21:28] <cagara> hey i have a problem. i use xfce4 and i can set up the powersave mode for battery mode! But i need a powersave option for the normal mode because my laptop gets really hot
[21:28] <petarVeliki> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[21:28] <echelon> any reason the karmic upgrade is going to take six hours?
[21:28] <petarVeliki>   flashplugin-nonfree: Depends: flashplugin-installer but it is not going to be installed
[21:28] <petarVeliki> E: Broken packages
[21:28] <ManiS> where can I get UNR support?
[21:28] <roxlu> yeah
[21:28] <kubuntuser> roxlu: ssh user@host cmd
[21:28] <Tohuw> diogo_79: yes. For future reference, though, put your question all on one line.
[21:28] <Z_o-s-o> any idea why maximizing a Hulu video would crash firefox?
[21:28] <diogo_79> ok sorry
[21:28] <bradleyhankins> Anyone know how to turn on my wireless connection on my laptop?
[21:28] <roxlu> kubuntuser: hehe didnt know that worked, thanks
[21:28] <Tohuw> diogo_79: have you tried just running an update? I thought 3.5 was in the 9.04 repos now.
[21:28] <diogo_79> is there a good tutorial to do that?
[21:28] <syk> nick im getting this http://paste.ubuntu.com/304567/
[21:28] <pipegeek> Z_o-s-o: very likely that flash crashed and took firefox with it.  the linux flash implementation is notoriously crappy
[21:29] <kubuntuser> roxlu: you need to make sure you put your public key on the access list of the other computer
[21:29] <JediMaster> hey guys, I'm a big Ubuntu fan, I run 15+ web servers running ubuntu, and very happy with it, however desktop wise, I've only got my home media center/server, my main work machine is windows 7, I've had ubuntu as a desktop in a previous job, and pretty happy with it, but I'm stuck with windows for a few minor applications, like photoshop, itunes (for the iphone syncing etc) and for games
[21:29] <diogo_79> what is the repository
[21:29] <Z_o-s-o> pipegeek : something must have broken from 9.04 to 9.10 then
[21:29] <diogo_79> ?
[21:29] <bibabu> Heyhey. I want to try the latest ubuntu. But Wubi is not updatet yet. Someone know when it will updated.
[21:29] <Z_o-s-o> clean install too
[21:29] <xrandr> diogo_79: yes, go to their website, download firefox, place it in /usr/local  update the launchers
[21:29] <kubuntuser> roxlu: I assume it would be bad if ssh wants a password?
[21:29] <Tiders> Why exactly is the Nvidia drivers not showing up in my Hardware Drivers thing
[21:29] <JediMaster> So the question is... I've got 8GB RAM, and a quad core, so I was wondering if I could run something like virtualbox and use windows 7 in a VM for the last few apps I don't ahve a good replacement for?
[21:30] <gpled> in redhat distros, you can use kickstart to do network installs.  how do you do a network install for ubuntu?
[21:30] <matrix_> hey i upgraded to 9.10 now my screen resulution is 800x600 and option 640x480
[21:30] <suris> I'm using two monitors, in each others panel is notification area, but icons doesn't appear in the second one, when i start program, i have tried different program, like opera or transmission.. this is bug or what?
[21:30] <diogo_79> how to update the lauchers
[21:30] <Brent^> would it be better to install Windows home server in a VM image on Ubuntu, or install Ubuntu in a VM image on WHS?
[21:30] <matrix_> why i can not better screen resolution this one sucks
[21:30] <petarVeliki> anyone have any clues about flash plug in??
[21:30] <CrocoJet> well Ubuntu 9.10 is more fast
[21:30] <christoph3141> Hi! I'm doing the update to karmic at the moment. During the installation of the successfully downloaded packages, the window is wating (for over ten minutes now) in the step "Configuring bash". The Window isn't responding. What do I do to continue the upgrade process?
[21:30] <ManiS> where can I get notebook remix support from?
[21:30] <xrandr> matrix_:what kind of video card? and did u enable the restricted packages/drivers?
[21:30] <Moonlit> Brent^ - the latter, I would've thought
[21:30] <CrocoJet> is a fact
[21:30] <Annonymorse> Hey guys, I got ubuntu yesterday (moved over from WinXP) and it's been working great until I try to install easycam for my webcam. I get a python-xml error when installing easycam2-core. Help?
[21:30] <Rods_Tiger> Quick question - someone told me the other day but I forgot the answer: Which one do I use - "For Dove boards" or
[21:30] <awozniak> Is the samba4 package considered stable/usable?
[21:30] <Moonlit> JediMaster - personally I'd run it the other way around, Ubuntu in a VM on Windows, because games don't really work very well in a VM
[21:31] <matrix_> i have pentium 4 integreated intel chipset
[21:31] <cagara> IMPORTANT: Why is my laptop getting so hot with ubuntu 9.10! on windows it was always pretty cold
[21:31] <Rods_Tiger> Quick question - someone told me the other day but I forgot the answer: Which one do I download - "For Dove boards" or "For i.MX51 boards"?
[21:31] <joaopinto> Annonymorse, file a bug report at launchpad please
[21:31] <Annonymorse> link?
[21:31] <CrocoJet> Second life is working pretty nice at Ubuntu 9.10
[21:31] <dibblego> is there an official torrent to download with?
[21:31] <cristi_> hi all...karmic is sweeet! one problem i was hoping to resolve is that, using ipw2200, it doesn't seem to pass the mac information to my router correctly, hence i cannot use filtering. used to have xp on this box and it worked fine (the router is setup properly). is this a known bug?
[21:31] <syk> !torrents
[21:31] <gpled> dibblego: you have a fast connection?
[21:31] <bsmart> just installed ubuntu, only running the system monitor, and my cpu usage is in the high 80's!  any idea why so high?
[21:32] <matrix_> when i go to hardware to detect my graphic card it does not find
[21:32] <dibblego> gpled, not really, I live in Australia
[21:32] <JediMaster> Moonlit: was thinking of dual booting but having W7 running in a VM when ubuntu is running
[21:32] <ManiS> does ubuntu support VIA Unichrome chipset?
[21:32] <matrix_> anyone in this room
[21:32] <gongoputch>  is there an editor styled on textmate (for OSX) for X11 ?
[21:32] <jnassifg> what the hell did ubuntu do to grub
[21:32] <ManiS> it did in 8.04, I tried the netbook remix and it failed
[21:32] <kubuntuser> matrix_: many people, you have been here long enough to realize that
[21:32] <NeoMatrixJR> matrix_: what graphics card?
[21:33] <spanther> jnassifg, upgrade to V2.0 ! :D
[21:33] <mnaines1> I like the new login screen on Karmic
[21:33] <christoph3141> The upgrade to karmic is hanging at the step "Configuring bash". Can somebody help me?
[21:33] <matrix_> i have integrated intel chipset i have pentium 4
[21:33] <CrocoJet> Ubuntu 9.10 is pure chocolate !
[21:33] <Moonlit> JediMaster - I don't know how well that works, I've never tried booting a native Windows install in a VM since XP, but the dual boot definitely sounds wise
[21:33] <jcdutton> christoph3141, be patient
[21:33] <Hillshum> CrocoJet: Hot chocolate. It overheats on me way easy
[21:33] <christoph3141> jdb: its been hanging for more than ten minutes now
[21:34] <ManiS> o.o
[21:34] <ManiS> no one knows XD
[21:34] <gpled> how long till synaptic picks it up?
[21:34] <ManiS> my chipset is too budget
[21:34] <ManiS> lol
[21:34] <pauliuspa> could anyone check if pear is working on ubuntu 9.10. I try to install package but package only gets downloaded and thats all - no installation
[21:34] <christoph3141> also, the gui has become unresponsive, after minimizing the window and restoring it, all text in it is gone.
[21:34] <syk_> i keep getting this when i try to update http://paste.ubuntu.com/304567/
[21:34] <offspring> phoenixz: are you still here?
[21:34] <matrix_> hello
[21:34] <ro_> I have windows 7 rc running in Virtualbox on ubuntu.  works great. But don't expect to be able to play games
[21:34] <NeoMatrixJR> matrix_: 1.) gonna need more than "intel chipset" and 2.) prefix your responses with the username of whoever is helping you.  Most IRC clients (at least mine) dings when it sees your name come up
[21:34] <JediMaster> ro_: yeah, not expecting that =)
[21:34] <mnaines1> For all those who are trying to update to Karmic, my recommendation is to download the ISO and do a clean install
[21:35] <mtraker> ro_ it's better wine with cedega
[21:35] <JediMaster> ro_: good enough to run photoshop maybe (8GB quad core)
[21:35] <jcdutton> christoph3141, either just wait, or if you are curious, you could go to the command line and see what is happening
[21:35] <gpled> mnaines1: why?
[21:35] <fullets> How can I get my Jaunty install to let me upgrade to Karmic? Update manager just tells me that my system's up to date and doesn't offer the ability to upgrade to Karmic; do-release-upgrade tells me that there's no new release found.
[21:35] <phoenixz> offspring: yes, but not continuously.. if you want to ask me something, please add my nick so my IRC clients warns me.. whats up?
[21:35] <cagara> ubuntu sucks
[21:35] <bsmart> just installed ubuntu, only running the system monitor, and my cpu usage is in the high 80's!  any idea why so high?
[21:35] <fluid> what is the first-person shooter in http://www.ubuntu.com/files/masthead/910/tour/ubuntu-910-games.jpg ?
[21:35] <Erix_> mnaines1: why?
[21:35] <Rods_Tiger> Why is UNR recommended for Macs?
[21:35] <ebrain> hey dudes
[21:35] <spanther> cagara, nobody forces you to use it <.<
[21:35] <mnaines1> gpled: Too many issues with upgrading from 9.04
[21:35] <matrix_> lspci | grep vga it shows nothing
[21:35] <fluid> then go elsewhere. no need to be here if it sucks.
[21:35] <christoph3141> jdb: uhm, I started the update thingy from the gui, so I don't have a command line
[21:35] <cocs> hi
[21:35] <gpled> mnaines1: if it can not upgrade, it is not ready
[21:35] <jcdutton> christoph3141, did you do the "check install CD" step during the install?
[21:35] <ebrain> where is Default Mixer Tracks option in Karmic ? http://www.ngohaibac.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/sound-preferences.png
[21:35] <cagara> my PCU is 20% constantly ... used by firef(u)x
[21:36] <cagara> TB7E5R
[21:36] <christoph3141> jcdutton: I'm doing an upgrade via internet
[21:36] <cagara> darn
[21:36] <mlissner> Anybody else having the notification bubble pop up an inch or so too low?
[21:36] <mnaines1> gpled: It can upgrade, but there are issues with installation freezing or grub not installing properly...it works fine if you do a clean install
[21:36] <cagara> R 1681 cagara    20   0  803m 116m  28m S   42  6.0  39:36.64 firefox
[21:36] <offspring> phoenixz: i did as you suggested, it asked me to type in my password so i did and it came up with "E: Type 'order' is unknown in line 57 in source list / etc / apt / sources.list", no idea what that means
[21:36] <Moonlit> mlissner - I'm getting that, but I've no idea why
[21:36] <magra> what's the diffrence between sudo and gksudo???
[21:36] <NeoMatrixJR> where is desktop-switcher in 9.10 UNR?
[21:36] <innocenceisdeath> @mlissner it's supposed to be like that i believe
[21:36] <matrix_> VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 01)
[21:36] <jcdutton> christoph3141, CTRL-ALT-F1 will get you to the command line
[21:36] <mlissner> innocenceisdeath, I hope you're kidding...
[21:36] <ZykoticK9> magra, they both do the same thing - sudo is from command line and gksudo for GUI apps
[21:36] <Moonlit> magra - sudo is command line only, gksudo is the graphical version
[21:37] <Hillshum> What should happen when my machine gets hot? Should it just hang on me?
[21:37] <magra> aha oki thanks...
[21:37] <Amnesia> hi
[21:37] <mlissner> innocenceisdeath, Moonlit, like it's where the second bubble would pop up, if there was a second one..lower than ever before.
[21:37] <cagara> now xcaht using 160% CPU ... what a fail
[21:37] <jcdutton> christoph3141, CTRL-ALT-F7 or F8 will get you back to the GUI
[21:37] <ebrain> please, where is Default Mixer Tracks option in Karmic ? http://www.ngohaibac.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/sound-preferences.png
[21:37] <gpled> Hillshum: it breaks if it over heats
[21:37] <phoenixz> offspring: seems like your sources list is damaged.. That file contains information about what remote repositories to use when installing software (the software is contained in these remote repositories, and your synaptic can use those to download and install the software)
[21:37] <christoph3141> jcdutton: ctrl-alt-f1 just brings me to a virtual console. What does that have to do with my upgrade failing/hanging for over ten minutes on "Configuring bash"?
[21:37] <ManiS> is there a way for me to see what packages are included in ubuntu netbook remix?
[21:37] <Moonlit> yeah mlissner, I know what you mean, it responds weirdly to the mouse too, right?
[21:37] <phoenixz> offspring: pastebin the contents of your /'etc/apt/sources.list file please
[21:37] <connectionVPN> is it possibe to do an offline upgrade with the regular CD or do I have to absolutely download the alternate one ?
[21:37] <Amnesia> does one of you folks know how to connect to an AP which uses WPA 2 AES + TKIP encryption through the terminal?
[21:37] <innocenceisdeath> @mlissner i got told the reason why by a friend
[21:38] <mlissner> innocenceisdeath, do tell
[21:38] <Moonlit> innocenceisdeath - you /were/ serious?
[21:38] <supasteri> im running the RC, but it still hasnt given me the option of upgrading to the full 9.10
[21:38] <innocenceisdeath> @mlissner it made sense, can't remember why it was though, it still annoys me
[21:38] <g0th> hi
[21:38] <supasteri> any ideas?
[21:38] <jcdutton> christoph3141, you can use it to do a "ps -ef" and find out what is going on
[21:38] <syk_> i keep getting this when i try to apt-get update http://paste.ubuntu.com/304567/
[21:38] <gpled> Hillshum: its not like a car, that you can pull over and cool off
[21:38] <bionicle> Is there software to force Linux to know I have a compaq monitor?
[21:38] <madsen> wow 1786 nicks
[21:38] <madsen> hi there :)
[21:38] <mlissner> Moonlit, no problems with the mouse here.
[21:38] <erle-> suspend to disk just failed on my thinkpad x60 ...
[21:38] <Hillshum> gpled: Ubuntu's supposed to prevent overheating right? How does it do that?
[21:38] <gpled> bionicle: what does dmesg say?
[21:38] <bionicle> Every bloody Linux distro I try I get the same bull with video problems using the proprietary drivers.
[21:38] <mnaines1> Hillshum: It does so by using less resources...
[21:39] <brock> Can someone help me find my Windows partition?
[21:39] <th1> supasteri, there is nothing to upgrade, RC becomes final by having up to date updates
[21:39] <bionicle> What do you mean gpled?
[21:39] <Genscher_> bionicle, which gfx card?
[21:39] <christoph3141> jcdutton: I think you misunderstood my problem: Only the update-thingy-window is unresponsice, I can use the rest of my current jaunty install quite well.
[21:39] <innocenceisdeath> @mlissner sorry i can't remember why, and yeh i was serious
[21:39] <ebrain> where is Default Mixer Tracks option in Karmic ? http://www.ngohaibac.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/sound-preferences.png
[21:39] <Moonlit> mlissner / innocenceisdeath - sounds to me like another issue like mine (turning off "show icons in menus" doesn't turn off icons)
[21:39] <supasteri> thl thanks
[21:39] <matrix_> http://www.pastebin.ca/1648430
[21:39] <bsmart> just installed ubuntu, only running the system monitor, and my cpu usage is in the high 80's!  no processes are using any cpu, any idea why so high?
[21:39] <brock> I'm trying to get to my music, and it doesn't show up on "Computer"
[21:39] <bionicle> nvidia geforce fx 5200 compaq mv900 monitor
[21:39] <NeoMatrixJR> matrix_: try googling: 845G ubuntu graphics driver.  I don't think you need a specific driver for this.  are you having any actual problems?
[21:39]  * sharef is away: Screenshot of Elive: http://elivecd.org/Main/Screenshots
[21:39] <mlissner> innocenceisdeath, Moonlit: some insight here: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1277268.html
[21:39] <mnaines1> Hillshum: Ubuntu does not put as much of a load on the system as Windows does, so because of that, the system runs cooler
[21:39]  * JediMaster has wisely parititon his 1TB drive to 80GB for windows 7 and 920GB for Ubuntu =)
[21:39] <g0th> I just upgraded to ubuntu 9.10 and suddenly almost nothing works. My main issue is the sound. I get the following message when I run mplayer: http://pastebin.com/m4216c8ba
[21:39] <Moonlit> mlissner - thanks
[21:39] <mlissner> innocenceisdeath, Moonlit: I'm unconvinced though by the arguments put forward...
[21:39] <Hillshum> mnaines1: Not on my machine...
[21:39] <innocenceisdeath> @mlissner that's not supposed to disable all the icons in the menus
[21:40] <matrix_> yes i upgraded to 9.10 now my screen resoultion is bad
[21:40] <KitsuneDragon> I did a wubi install of 9.10 works perfectly except for open arena
[21:40] <innocenceisdeath> @mlissner it disables those under the system menu
[21:40] <bionicle> Without the drivers all is fine.  It is installing the drivers that mess it all up on me.
[21:40] <Genscher_> bionicle, 5200....that's ancient
[21:40] <Moonlit> innocenceisdeath - that's my problem, and I have no idea why not, surely the point of disabling icons is to... disable the icons?
[21:40] <mnaines1> Hillshum: What problem are you having?
[21:40] <bionicle> Well, I have no choice.  It is all I have.
[21:40] <jonte> hi how do i dual boot ubuntu 9.10? wubi dosen't work for me
[21:40] <Genscher_> bionicle, the open source driver should work nicely with them, better then the closed ones
[21:40] <g0th> I still use the old kernel since the kernel from ubuntu doesnt work at all for me
[21:40] <Moonlit> innocenceisdeath - http://kimag.es/share/64852247.jpg < that makes absolutely no sense to me
[21:40] <jcdutton> christoph3141, OK, has it finished the download step?
[21:40] <Genscher_> *than
[21:40] <binod> hi all, today i installed  ubuntu 9.10. i cud not get my wireless internet connection. for that i installed  broadcom drivers and n-vidia drivers.When i reboot the system , it didn't work. commond line mode continuouslty blinks and  grphical mode does not appear..... can any body suggest me what is the reason  behind it .... and solution  for it ... i dun want to format my system again..
[21:41] <ebrain> where is Default Mixer Tracks option in Karmic ? http://www.ngohaibac.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/sound-preferences.png
[21:41] <Genscher_> binod, same here
[21:41] <bionicle> Without the nvidia video drivers how can I run desktop effects and all?
[21:41] <Hillshum> mnaines1: When running my system hard, it will blank the screen and hang
[21:41] <gabx> hey hey, I have an issue that i can't figure out, i want ot resize my root partition, using gparted from a live cd, but i can't seem to resize it, i have unallocated space on my disk, and i have non mounted ext3 space aswell, but my root partition will not resize :\ does anyone know any fix to this, or any tips of what i should do?
[21:41] <jonte> hi how do i dual boot ubuntu 9.10? wubi dosen't work for me
[21:41] <ebrain> no bionicle
[21:41] <innocenceisdeath> @moonlit
[21:41] <bionicle> No what?
[21:41] <AceKing> what is the command for upgrading from terminal?
[21:41] <christoph3141> jcdutton: yes. It started the Installation step and it worked fine until "Configuring bash", at which point the update-thingy window became unresponsive and the update seems to hang.
[21:41] <brock> bionicle:pretty sure you can't XD
[21:41] <innocenceisdeath> @moonlit that's not the system menu, that's the applications menu...
[21:41] <ebrain> bionicle, you can't run wirh proper CG support
[21:41] <trijntje> hi all, since i'm using only my onboard graphical card i keep falling back to login when i'm watching a movie. Where should i look to fix this?
[21:41] <ChogyDan> binod: try waiting awhile
[21:41] <jabrwocky7> anyone have luck with x-fi PCIe on karmic x64?
[21:41] <knarfix> matrix_: had the same problem. i moved .gconf to .gconf old and the problem was gone
[21:41] <binod> Genscher, how u are trying to solve it ?
[21:41] <mnaines1> Hillshum: Pastebin the specs of your system
[21:41] <Hillshum> jonte: Dual-boot with windows?
[21:42] <Genscher_> binod, checking it out here right now!
[21:42] <brock> I'm having problems in computer.
[21:42] <bionicle> So in other words darned no matter what.  That is why I stay with Windows.  Linux is useless.  They cannot get video right.
[21:42] <brock> Can't find my Vista partition...
[21:42] <innocenceisdeath> @mlissner yeh that forum post's right, it was place there to make room for other notifications
[21:42] <g0th> can anyone help me?
[21:42] <jonte> mm dual boot with windows
[21:42] <matrix_> knarfix:can you tell me the command i am not that good sorry
[21:42] <Powersource> why is 'akonadi' suddenly installed?
[21:42] <jnassifg> the new ubuntu doesn't support syncing to iphones with 3.x firmware out of the box.
[21:42] <innocenceisdeath> @mlissner not the best way to handle it imo, but hey
[21:42] <Hillshum> mnaines1: Is there a command or do I type them up myself?
[21:42] <binod> Genscher_: ok i will be waiting
[21:42] <offspring> phoenixz: http://pastebin.com/m621f1eef
[21:42] <Moonlit> innocenceisdeath - yeah, but in 9.04 and earlier, it disabled all icons in menus as you'd expect, the reason I disable icons is because I think it looks cleaner without
[21:42] <phoenixz> bionicle: Linux can not do video?
[21:42] <NeoMatrixJR> matrix_: try instructions here: (read all first. I think there's specifics for a 8xx chipset) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1130582
[21:42] <mnaines1> Hillshum: Just type them up yourself
[21:42] <gary1> hi
[21:42] <trijntje> brock, where have you looked?
[21:42] <ebrain> lol bionicle with Aero you can't get gfx effects too without a devent gfx card
[21:42] <bionicle> It cannot use the proprietary drivers properly I meant.
[21:43] <brock> Went to computer<places.
[21:43] <g0th> I upgraded to ubuntu 9.10 and now I suddenly dont have any more sound. I still use my old kernel image with the compiled in sound driver. When I start mplayer I get this message: http://pastebin.com/m4216c8ba. I still use the old kernel with compiled in sound driver (the new ubuntu built kernel doesnt work at all for me).
[21:43] <mlissner> innocenceisdeath, yeah, the old way seemed fine in my use...but in any case, I'll move on to other Karmic problems, I guess, and live with it.
[21:43] <ebrain> where is Default Mixer Tracks option in Karmic ? http://www.ngohaibac.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/sound-preferences.png
[21:43] <brock> And all I see is CD drive, USB drive, and Filesystem.
[21:43] <Genscher_> binod, my first attempt was a) installing all the propietary stuff with live cd then installing ubuntu --> got into troubles with network etc (can't really install etc)
[21:43] <connectionVPN> is it possibe to do an offline upgrade with the regular CD or do I have to absolutely download the alternate one ?
[21:43] <innocenceisdeath> @mlissner - it doesn't rly detract from any functionality though i guess - a minor annoynance really at most
[21:43] <jcdutton> christoph3141, open a terminal window and do "top" and see what is taking CPU time
[21:43] <Genscher_> binod, now 2nd attempt just finished installing, now checking
[21:43] <ChogyDan> connectionVPN: correct
[21:44] <ChogyDan> binod: try waiting a long time for the boot.  That worked for me, but I have also been having trouble
[21:44] <brock> trijntje help?
[21:44] <Hillshum> mnaines1: Anything in particular I should add?
[21:44] <gary1> can you help me?i have a problem with my backlight control
[21:44] <brock> gary.
[21:44] <knarfix> matrix_: not an expert either.... what i did was: pressed ctrl alt f2 then logged in and typed mv .gconf .gconfOld and did sudo reboot....it worked for me
[21:44] <phoenixz> offspring: check line 57 and 58, they are wrong.. you can either comment them (place a # in front of them) or delete them.. line 57 should need a # in front.. line 58 needs an enter (to split it to two lines where it says #WINEHQblahblahblah...
[21:44] <brock> What's the problem?
[21:44] <Wipster> how can I change the dictionary empathy uses to the same one firefox and xchat seems to share? empathy likes to flag most of my words...
[21:44] <connectionVPN> ChogyDan: why? the cd appears in the package sources (but as 3rd party)
[21:44] <ebrain> exit
[21:44] <trijntje> brock: can you paste the output of sudo fdisk -l
[21:44] <bonez46> anyone have flash working on amd 64?
[21:45] <trijntje> !paste | brock
[21:45] <mnaines1> Hillshum: I just need the CPU clock speed, hard drive capacity and used space, RAM capacity and used space, and video card type
[21:45] <knarfix> matrix_: if you do that your display will look like the default one
[21:45] <ChogyDan> connectionVPN: there is only a handful of packages available from the livecd
[21:45] <jonte> the wubi is only 9.04 i do wan't the new one as a dual boot with windows.is there any way?
[21:45] <christoph3141> jcdutton: mysqld_safe is at the very top with about 96% CPU (I have no Idea what that thing is doing), then plasma-desktop, pidgin, kwin, firefox are eating cpu.
[21:45] <binod> ChogyDan:  approx how long it will take? every time the same case will be problematic ... or it is only for first boot?
[21:45] <christoph3141> jcdutton: btw: thanks for your ongoing efforts :)
[21:45] <phoenixz> offspring: you need to edit the file with an editor (any will do) but you need to edit it as root (since its a system file)
[21:45] <ChogyDan> binod: don't know yet.  I have a clean install that works much better.  It's only my upgrade install that does this
[21:46] <bsmart> wheres a good place for ubuntu gnome themes?
[21:46] <b1shop> a
[21:46] <brock> just a sec
[21:46] <mlissner> Anybody else using encrypted disk, and having the disk mounter show the encrypted disk as mounted?
[21:46] <phoenixz> offspring: place # in front of line 57, and an <enter> on line 58 before #wineHQ
[21:46] <mnaines1> christoph3141: Odd...I don't have a problem with firefox and pidgin eating CPU resources on my computer
[21:46] <phoenixz> offspring: then you can again try to use the sudo apt-get update;
[21:46] <knarfix> bsmart: http://www.gnome-look.org/
[21:46] <daleharvey> holy hell this is the worst install I have ever had with ubuntu
[21:46] <trijntje> hi all, since i'm using only my onboard graphical card i keep falling back to login when i'm watching a movie. Where should i look to fix this?
[21:46] <gary1> brock i can't config my backlight,my
[21:46] <bsmart> knarfix: cheers
[21:46] <kyrandesa> anyone noticed that software center is extremely slow with installing stuff? (could be downloading or installing, doesn't tell)
[21:47] <jabrwocky7> Kyrand:  Try setting your source server to a local mirror
[21:47] <knarfix> bsmart: cheers :D
[21:47] <christoph3141> mnaines1: its mainly this weird msqld_safe thingy and plasma-desktop and xorg, the others are so insignificant that top shows 0%, but there at the top of the list anyways
[21:47] <offspring> phoenixz: ok ill try, also do you know if theres anyway to change the language of your keyboard?
[21:47] <kyrandesa> jabrwocky7: thx, will try
[21:47] <daleharvey> it has stalled on my around 20 times, using 3 different media
[21:47] <phoenixz> offspring: yeah, but I don't know how to do that in Ubuntu (I'm using Kubuntu, different desktop interface)
[21:47] <mnaines1> christoph3141: I don't have any problems at all...My average CPU load is only 1.5 percent over 15 minutes
[21:47] <matrix_> knarfix: can you tell me again i rebooted sorry
[21:48] <daleharvey> I checksummed the disk, its fine
[21:48] <christoph3141> What is this weird mysqld_safe thing? Maybe that is the problem which is preventing my upgrade
[21:48] <gary1> my screen is black
[21:48] <daleharvey> but the cd drive / usb stick and external hard drive have all had problems
[21:48] <kahen> for any danes out there, dk.archive.ubuntu.com seems to be out of date so you can't install anything. 'gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list' and change http://dk. to http://se. i did that and updates worked for me again
[21:48] <NeoMatrixJR> UNR anyone?
[21:48] <matrix_> knarfix: can you tell me again
[21:48] <mnaines1> christoph3141: Now you see why I recommend everyone do a clean install of Karmic instead of upgrading
[21:48] <binod> Genscher_: any progress?
[21:48] <mlissner> anybody out there switched to ext4 that's using encrypted disk? I'm tempted, but scared.
[21:48] <christoph3141> mnaines1: o.O
[21:49] <kyrandesa> jabrwocky7: I already had the correct one, so not the reason
[21:49] <brock>  trijntje: http://paste.ubuntu.com/304582/
[21:49] <dr3mro> plz can anu one help me with dial up ???
[21:49] <jnassifg> IN THE NEWEST UBNUNTU, I dont see a menu when grub loads
[21:49] <jnassifg> WHY?
[21:49] <Annonymorse> YOU'LL PAY FOR THIS CAPTAIN PLANET!!!
[21:49] <mnaines1> mlissner: I have it...Any questions about it?
[21:50] <Tohuw> mlissner: functionally, it works fine. No problems here.
[21:50] <mlissner> mnaines1, I guess my question is whether switching is going to be the end of my system, and if there's anything special I should know?
[21:50] <Genscher_> binod, works!
[21:50] <mwf> hello - need help with apt-get in the new version 9.10
[21:50] <dr3mro> how to dial up karmic koala ... modem is fine and detected by sl-modem
[21:50] <mwf> i fails constantly
[21:50] <mgmuscari> !isitout
[21:50] <innocenceisdeath> mnaines1: do you know what type of encryption is used?
[21:51] <Genscher_> binod, ok, i *think* that the problem is if you select/activate the propietary drivers *before* installing ubuntu
[21:51] <mgmuscari> somebody needs to update ubottu :p
[21:51] <jcdutton> christoph3141, try closing all applications except the upgrade window
[21:51] <carresmd> ubottu, update your facts dude... LOL
[21:51] <mnaines1> innocenceisdeath: No, I do not.  I just installed Karmic myself and still learning about it.  I never had any problems with the install because I did a clean install
[21:51] <firefly_> anyone know how to change the default workspace?
[21:51] <binod> Genscher_: i activated only after installing ubuntu
[21:51] <arand> mgmuscari: That's referring to Lucid ;)
[21:51] <zeeble> how do i remove evolution etc, without removing the gnome panel, etc?
[21:51] <fullets> mgmuscari: My Jaunty installation seems to agree with ubottu; no update options offered :(
[21:51] <mgmuscari> arand: ahaha, good point
[21:51] <trijntje> brock: it looks like your vista partition is at /dev/sda1
[21:51] <Hillshum> mnaines1: http://paste2.org/p/490104
[21:52] <offspring> phoenixz: dont think im doing this right, its saying i havent got the rights to save the file and tells me to control that i have written it in the right place
[21:52] <innocenceisdeath> mnaines1: i think it's always best to do a clean install
[21:52] <calamari> hi guys, im having problems editing the menu options in the UNR on karmic... can anyone help? please PM me
[21:52] <binod> Genscher_: does it working in your system?
[21:52] <Genscher_> binod, another thing i changed was that i had a cable internet connection so the propietary driver install went different that time
[21:52] <carresmd> zeeble, not...
[21:52] <gary1> @ brock my screen is black and i can't config it
[21:52] <[TK]D-Fender> Hello, quick question : Running 8.10 upgraded through to 9.04 and am looking to reinstall from the 9.10 ISO reformatting to use EXT4.  This is a FS change and a bootloader change (Grub 1.x to the new V2).  And Gotchas I should watch out for?  On this drive I also have a WinXP boot partition, & a data partition (fuseblk  <- this NTFS?)
[21:52] <mgmuscari> so who here has taken the leap so far... will my /home and settings migrate over painlessly if i do a clean install and spit my list of packages into dpkg?
[21:52] <Genscher_> binod, it does now, yes (after 2nd install)
[21:52] <christoph3141> jcdutton: oh, right, I have a few konsoles with bash es running, maybe thats the problem
[21:52] <mnaines1> Hillshum: Is this a laptop?
[21:52] <zeeble> carresmd: not what?
[21:52] <carresmd> zeeble, remove evolution
[21:52] <Hillshum> mnaines1: Yes. HP 6735b
[21:53] <firefly_> how do i set the default worspace desktop that is selected on boot?
[21:53] <mgmuscari> [TK]D-Fender: back everything up first, and often. i don't trust ext4... i had problems with it in 9.04 (constantly corrupted journals)
[21:53] <mnaines1> Hillshum: And what are you doing that eats up so many resources?
[21:53] <phoenixz> offspring: thats correct, like I told you, you need to edit this as another user (called "root") since you as a normal user do not have the right to change this file. This is for your own safety (you cant accidentally change it, an intruder could not just modify it, etc)..  so if you want to edit it, use the editor you wish, but run it as root
[21:53] <carresmd> zeeble, evolution is a dependency of gnome / ubuntu-desktop
[21:53] <phoenixz> offspring: you'd do that with sudo for example
[21:53] <binod> Genscher_: i too used cable connection for installing driver
[21:53] <phoenixz> offspring: sudo pico /etc/apt/sources.list
[21:53] <christoph3141> jcdutton: ok, I closed every window except the upgrade thingy and pidgin
[21:53] <mikehh> I installed Karmic beta when it came out and have kept up to date - is there any difference with the release today?
[21:53] <zeeble> carresmd: :( i am not using or going to use any of it. want to use thunderbird cos i have my mailbox from there
[21:53] <Genscher_> binod, all fine now :)
[21:53] <jhattara> is there any way to open psd CMYK files in Ubuntu so that layers and transparencies are preserved ?
[21:53] <christoph3141> jcdutton: but the upgrade-thingy still seems to hang
[21:53] <Bluey> where can I find the md5sum for the 9.10 downloads on the site?
[21:54] <brock> trij now what?
[21:54] <phoenixz> offspring: for a graphical editor, you could use kdesudo (for KDE, dunoo what to use for gnome), like kdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[21:54] <knarfix> matrix_: did it work?
[21:54] <carresmd> zeeble, just leave it there.. it doesn't matter :-)
[21:54] <binod> Genscher_: means i have to go for next install?
[21:54] <brock> Lol, kind of a noob.
[21:54] <mlissner> mnaines1, Tohuw, I guess your silence means I have nothing to worry about?
[21:54] <Tohuw> jhattara: what happens when you open it in GIMP?
[21:54] <trijntje> brock, what do you want. Do you want to be able to access your vista partition just once or everytime you login?
[21:54] <brock> But I catch on fast.
[21:54] <trijntje> !who | brock
[21:54] <zeeble> carresmd: hehe, wanted to keep everything clean after a clean install :)
[21:54] <Genscher_> binod, i wasn't able to fix my first install
[21:54] <knarfix> matrix_: how is it?
[21:54] <mnaines1> mlissner: I do not know what type of encryption it uses, but you need to set the password option on the installation screen to decrypt the home folder automatically
[21:54] <brock> trijntje Oh, just right now, I'm looking to get my music off.
[21:54] <Genscher_> binod, and i am an old ex-gentoo'er ;)
[21:54] <Tohuw> mlissner: using encrpytion always presents a possible risk. Back up your files and give it a go, but I've had no issues with my server.
[21:54] <jhattara> Tohuw, Opening FILE failed: Error loading PSD file: Unsupported color mode: CMYK
[21:55] <binod> Genscher_: ok
[21:55] <poseidon> I'm installing 9.10 now.  I have 1 gb ram.  Should I still set aside 512 mb for swap?
[21:55] <Hillshum> mnaines1: Various things. Gaming can do it, installing Ubuntu server in a desktop while surfing the web and playing flash games has done it, compiling does it
[21:55] <carresmd> zeeble, yeah I understand it.. but AFAIK it isn't possible to remove evolution
[21:55] <mnaines1> poseidon: I would recommend setting aside 1.5GB for swap
[21:55] <mlissner> Tohuw, mnaines1, OK, I'll give it a shot. Seems like a good performance boost, and seems like little risk.
[21:55] <Hillshum> poseidon: How much disk space do you have?
[21:55] <zeeble> carresmd: thanks
[21:55] <Genscher_> poseidon, 1gb is quite low
[21:55] <trijntje> brock: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[21:55] <Tohuw> jhattara: Googling "cmyk gimp" gives me http://cue.yellowmagic.info/softwares/separate.html
[21:55] <Genscher_> poseidon, so sure, i agree with mnaines1
[21:55] <akrohit> I just installed ubuntu 9.10 Karmic. Why is there a delay after login? I am using xmonad as WM.
[21:56] <zeeble> now adding multipel addons to swiftfox
[21:56] <trijntje> brock, this wil place your vista partition in /mnt. sudo umount /mnt to unmount the partition when youre done
[21:56] <Tohuw> mlissner: encrpytion does not improve performance, it improves security.
[21:56] <mgmuscari> how's empathy?
[21:56] <poseidon> I have 105 gigs that I use for ubuntu and 40 for xp
[21:56] <mnaines1> Hillshum: There's your problem.  Your laptop's video card is not designed for gaming
[21:56] <mlissner> Tohuw, right...I should explain better...
[21:56] <jhattara> Tohuw, the GIMPs plugin browser tells me i have that plugin (or at least something with a same name) installed
[21:56] <carresmd> akrohit, xmonad?
[21:56] <mlissner> Tohuw, I HAVE full disk encryption on my laptop with ext3.
[21:56] <Tohuw> jhattara: odd! Not sure, ask in #gimp
[21:56] <akrohit> carresmd: yes
[21:56] <brock> Ok thanks.
[21:56] <mlissner> Tohuw, I want to upgrade the filesystem to ext4, for the performance boost that that provides.
[21:57] <dabukalam> how can I find out my DOMAIN for samba purposes? isn't there a command?
[21:57] <Hillshum> mnaines1: But compiling doesn't use my gpu....
[21:57] <matrix_> hey guys its weird when i go to system-hardwaredrivers, it does not detect it, when i had install 9.4 i usually installed my graphic card from there system-hardware
[21:57] <mnaines1> mlissner: It does provide a performance boost but its also more secure.
[21:57] <carresmd> akrohit, are you using compiz with xmonad?
[21:57] <matrix_> now i am on ubuntu 9.10
[21:57] <preecher> what is ubuntu one? after my 9.10 update i have it--do i need it
[21:57] <DasEi> burntresistor: are you using the 64 bit ?
[21:57] <senses2009> êàïåö, òóò êòî-òî íà ðóñêîì îáùàåòñÿ?
[21:57] <poseidon> Genscher_: I've always only used 512 mb swap, should I really have 1.5 gb?
[21:57] <matrix_> and no graphic card
[21:57] <mnaines1> Hillshum: The gaming does, though
[21:57] <christoph3141> jcdutton: should I just abort the upgrade and try again, this time with no applications startet from the beginning on?
[21:57] <Bluey> where are the md5sums for 9.10?
[21:57] <Tohuw> mlissner: ah! Yes, you ought to be happier. btw, try adding noatime to your options.
[21:57] <Genscher_> poseidon, maybe 1gb, but you have enough GB anyway
[21:57] <poseidon> k
[21:57] <poseidon> thanks
[21:58] <akrohit> In jaunty and earlier versions xmonad used to get loaded in a fraction of second after login
[21:58] <matrix_> hey guys i upgrade to 9.10 and my graphic card is not good
[21:58] <carresmd> !md5sum | Bluey
[21:58] <mnaines1> poseidon: The rule of thumb about swap space is 1.5 times the amount of RAM to give you enough room for both hibernation and extra files
[21:58] <mgmuscari> !empathy
[21:58] <Tohuw> !doesntwork | matrix_
[21:58] <Hillshum> mnaines1: I can live with that, but is there a way to improve my system's heat management?
[21:58] <manitou> eee-control for karmic ! any ?
[21:58] <mgmuscari> !pidgin
[21:58] <carresmd> akrohit, are you using compiz with xmonad?
[21:58] <mlissner> mnaines1, do you mean that ext4 is more secure? That'd be a surprise...I know about encryption though, otherwise.
[21:58] <mgmuscari> is pidgin in the 9.10 repos?
[21:58] <zeeble> yes
[21:58] <akrohit> carresmd, no compiz
[21:58] <mnaines1> Hillshum: The only way is to stop using the high-demand applications
[21:58] <dupondje> mgmuscari: ofc
[21:58] <dupondje> :)
[21:58] <DasEi> mgmuscari: yep
[21:58] <mlissner> Tohuw, do you know if I'll need to update grub settings?
[21:58] <matrix_> anyone who upgraded to 9.10 and had problesm with screen resolution
[21:58] <Tohuw> mgmuscari: please /query ubottu if you are asking it for information for yourself
[21:59] <mnaines1> mlissner: I mean ext4 is more secure, yes.  I also use plug-and-play hard drives for more security
[21:59] <matrix_> anyone who upgraded to 9.10 and had problesm with screen resolution
[21:59] <carresmd> akrohit, I'm sorry can't help you then :-(
[21:59] <Bluey> no no - I know how to md5sum - WHERE are the values stored for 9.10?
[21:59] <offspring> phoenixz: got a slight problem, i cannot insert the "#" with this keyboard language
[21:59] <mgmuscari> Tohuw: ah thanks, forgot about that command
[21:59] <arand> mgmuscari: yes
[21:59] <mwf> I have a problem with apt-get - someone has time to help me?
[21:59] <DasEi> matrix_: no, which g-card ?
[21:59] <aj_444> I'm following this tutorial http://www.wine-reviews.net/wine-reviews/microsoft/msn-messenger-2008-and-2009-on-linux-with-wine.html to install WLM via wine. However, I finish it and type wineboot into a terminal and get an error "err:module:attach_process_dlls "msvcrt.dll" failed to initialize, aborting err:module:LdrInitializeThunk Main exe initialization for L"C:\\Program Files\\Windows Live\\Messenger\\msnmsgr.exe" failed, statu
[21:59] <dupondje> mwf: what problem ?
[21:59] <phoenixz> offspring: what keyboard language do you have?
[21:59] <Hillshum> mnaines1: Under Windows and Jaunty there was much less of a problem
[21:59] <lstarnes> mwf: we need to know that the problem is first
[21:59] <carresmd> Bluey, if you read the ACTUAL text in that how to .. you'll see a link!
[21:59] <mlissner> mnaines1, how is ext4 more secure, if you don't mind explaining?
[21:59] <akrohit> carresmd, just after login there is a screen which shows a bar moving for few seconds, both for gnome and xmonad
[21:59] <phoenixz> offspring: tried shift-3 or alt-3??
[21:59] <gigasoft> how to make voice calls from aMSN?
[22:00] <carresmd> akrohit, ah.. that's the new GDM doing it's work
[22:00] <Bluey> carresmd: I'll try again....
[22:00] <Tohuw> mlissner: your uuid ought to say the same if you're performing a filesystem conversion. Honestly, I prefer to just backup, wipe, reinstall, but that's me and my OCD for you.
[22:00] <fesse> I have problems with the administration of users in 9.10. Whatever I do in "User Settings" gets undone when I close the window. Is this a known issue?
[22:00] <j484r> hello everybody....
[22:00] <mwf> i can't download anything with apt-get or aptitude - i can't find anything..
[22:00] <phoenixz> offspring: actually, you just inserted the # in this IRC client of yours... if you can insert it there, you can also insert it into your editor..
[22:00] <mwf> i've triede to download/install deluge
[22:00] <dupondje> mwf: errors ?
[22:00] <matrix_> DasEi:VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 01)
[22:00] <matrix_> 	Subsystem: Fujitsu Limited. Device 11e3
[22:00] <matrix_> 	Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Step
[22:00] <lstarnes> mwf: what errors do you get?
[22:00] <akrohit> carresmd, can it be disabled in any way?
[22:00] <mwf> 2 sec
[22:00] <zeeble> how to get JRE, etc installed? still have the package called ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[22:00] <offspring> phoenixz: yes shift 3 gives me £ and alt 3 sends me to another page in IRC
[22:00] <seyfarth> hey guys, is there a way I can use the bootable usb i made to upgrade from ubuntu netbook 9.04 to 9.10, WITHOUT wiping all my programs and files?
[22:00] <mnaines1> mlissner: Well, for one, its comparable to NTFS in that it provides file system encryption capabilities and it allows for several other security features
[22:00] <vato> I just setup Ubuntu Server 9.04 yesterday. I also bridged my linksys router and westell DSL modem today (Had the dreaded 2x NAT setup before). For some reason i can't idle on irc or on the internet period without being disconnected.. Anyone have any clue as to why this is and how I can fix it? Does it have to do with not all my computers having static ips set? Thank you
[22:00] <Tohuw> !oneline | matrix_
[22:00] <akrohit> carresmd, its kind of irritating
[22:00] <dupondje> zeeble: aptitude search jre
[22:01] <phoenixz> offspring: how did you get the # symbol in your IRC?
[22:01] <mlissner> Anybody else having openoffice look like cr@p after going to karmic? I have tons of black highlighting in weird places.
[22:01] <jad> Hello
[22:01] <Wicked> hello all. i like to roll my own ffmpeg and mplayer...how do i over ride a package so its not updated over?
[22:01] <carresmd> akrohit, not sure about that.. let me check
[22:01] <jad> INtel driver crashes after 15 minutes
[22:01] <Tohuw> !enter | matrix_
[22:01] <mgmuscari> vato: are you using a wired connection?
[22:01] <jad>  updated X and Kernel and now it won't start at all
[22:01] <offspring> phoenixz: copy paste, doesnt seem possible in the terminal though, it just removes the text
[22:01] <vato> yes, i am.
[22:01] <DasEi> matrix_: I have no experience with that but read intel was supported better now, try to reconfigure your x-server;; your syste is up to date ?
[22:01] <Tohuw> !pastebin | matrix_
[22:01] <j484r> is there a fix for mounting /etc/fstab.. failed after i tried to upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10
[22:01] <vato> mgmuscari: yes
[22:01] <mwf> i'll get the same error as this person http://forum.deluge-torrent.org/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=10635
[22:01] <DigitalKiwi> !karmic
[22:01] <jad> Wicked: Pin it in aptitude
[22:01] <mgmuscari> vato: i've been having problems with dropped connections while idling using the iwlagn module in 9.04, but it doesn't sound like that's your problem
[22:02] <DasEi> mfw: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list
[22:02] <Tohuw> jad: what's the output of your X error log?
[22:02] <matrix_> DasEi so how  to fix my xorg
[22:02] <dupondje> true :P
[22:02] <akrohit> How do I customize the login screen of karmic. I want the user names to be displayed in login screen. How can it be done?
[22:02] <Bluey> carresmd: this does NOT have the sums for 9.10 - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes so I again ask -- where are the sums for 9.10?
[22:02] <vato> i also have a windows 7 computer on the network that drops connection as well
[22:02] <senses2009> ðóññêîÿçû÷íûå îòçîâèòåñü(
[22:02] <Wicked> jad, hmm. i could do that. but id really prefer to make the version i make have a higher version number then the ubuntu installed ones so its not updated.
[22:02] <mgmuscari> vato: does the timing of the connection drops seem to correspond to dhcp lease expiration?
[22:02] <Wicked> can i just tack a 1 on the end?
[22:02] <akrohit> my mistake. I dont want the user names to be diplayed
[22:02] <lstarnes> Bluey: look on the download mirrors
[22:02] <jad> Tohuw: Failed to loadmodule i810 (Modules does not exist) 0
[22:02] <matrix_> DasEi so how  to fix my xorg
[22:02] <DasEi> matrix_: log out, then on commandline run : sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[22:02] <mwf> ## extensively as that contained in the main release, although it includ$
[22:02] <mwf> ## newer versions of some applications which may provide useful features.
[22:02] <mwf> ## Also, please note that software in backports WILL NOT receive any rev$
[22:02] <mwf> ## or updates from the Ubuntu security team.
[22:02] <mwf> # deb http://dk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ karmic-backports main restric$
[22:02] <FloodBot3> mwf: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:02] <mwf> # deb-src http://dk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ karmic-backports main res$
[22:02] <mgmuscari> vato: sounds like a problem with your dhcp server maybe... peek into your router config
[22:02] <vato> okay
[22:02] <offspring> phoenixz: think i got it
[22:03] <lstarnes> mwf: check aptitude search deluge
[22:03] <carresmd> Bluey, sorry didn't know that..
[22:03] <akrohit> I want the behaviour as that of jaunty and earlier versions
[22:03] <Tohuw> akrohit: displaying the user names is the default behavior of karmic's login screen, but check System --> Administration --> Login Screen
[22:03] <carresmd> Bluey, http://releases.ubuntu.com/karmic/MD5SUMS
[22:03] <DasEi> !paste|  | mwf
[22:03] <Bluey> carresmd: blessings
[22:03] <akrohit> Tohuw, that doesnt give much option
[22:03] <senses2009> ÿ óæå íà÷èíàþ òèõî íåíàâèäåòü ôðèìåéë(((((((ð-ð-ð-ð-ð-ð-ð-ð-ð-ð-ð-ð-ð-ð-ð-ð-ð-ð(((((((
[22:03] <nicklas_> ubuntu one doesnt work
[22:03] <akrohit> Tohuw, i already checked that
[22:03] <bluebanana> hi, i am trying to install ubuntu 9.10 on my laptop but after the initial screen i choose the 'use without changes to computer option', i hear the ubuntu intro sound but the screen is black.. .can somebody help?
[22:03] <mwf> sorry for the paste.. it finds both deluge and deluge-torrent
[22:03] <jad> Wicked: Edit the database?
[22:03] <Tohuw> akrohit: are you seeing any login screen at all?
[22:03] <HardPhuck> guys, if i do do-release-upgrade on my production server all my configuration and websites will stay in place, right?
[22:03] <j484r> is there a fix for mounting /etc/fstab.. failed after i tried to upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10
[22:03] <vato> mgmuscari: thank you sir.
[22:04] <mgmuscari> senses2009: are you typing gibborish or are you sending broken text?
[22:04] <mgmuscari> vato: hope that helps...
[22:04] <lstarnes> mwf: have you tried both?
[22:04] <vato> mgmuscari: you hit the nail on the head, there is a problem. Lol
[22:04] <Tohuw> HardPhuck: yes. backup first, always
[22:04] <jad> Tohuw: is the new intel driver still called i810
[22:04] <preecher> after upgrading to 9.10 from 9.04 i have "ubuntu one" under apps--when i try to use it it say "capabilities missmatch server" do i need this ubuntu one? what it be do for me?
[22:04] <Royall> You know what I don't like? If you wanna download an app in Software Center you have to go to its page, there's no one-click download
[22:04] <mgmuscari> vato: awesome. it's nice when things are simple to fix.
[22:04] <HardPhuck> hmm i have nowhere do backup :)
[22:04] <jad> if i modprobe i810 I instantly lock up
[22:04] <akrohit> Tohuw, I see the login screen with a box with user names displayed
[22:04] <HardPhuck> backup as to some folders?
[22:04] <mwf> lstarnes: sudo aptitude install deluge and sudo aptitude installe deluge-torrent?
[22:04] <ripps> preecher: yeah, a fixed version is in the proposed repo
[22:04] <lstarnes> mwf: try the latter
[22:04] <vato> mgmuscari: yes, yes it is :) <3 ubuntu. Take care guys.
[22:05] <Wicked> jad....umm...not sure i want to do that. for instance. ive been building debs for ffmpeg on 9.04....when i would update the system it would not be replaced...but when i build it on 9.10 it is.
[22:05] <Tohuw> jad: check to see if xserver-xorg-video-intel is instlled
[22:05] <mwf> i don't understand?
[22:05] <Wicked> idk ill figure it out i guess
[22:05] <EvanCarroll> Lets play an irc game, entitled 'O', in this game you must say a unicode character that apears to have a base of 'o'. The first person to not respond, or say something already said, loses. First one to start is my challenger.
[22:05] <Tohuw> jad: s/instlled/installed
[22:05] <preecher> ripps thanx--what do it do for me--is it a need prog
[22:05] <Tohuw> akrohit: and what is it you want?
[22:05] <lstarnes> mwf: sudo aptitude install deluge-torrent
[22:05] <senses2009> mgmuscari, à âû íå ïðîáîâàëè íàïèñàòü íà ìîåì ÿçûêå?
[22:05] <Flannel> EvanCarroll: This channel is a support channel, please stay ontopic.  Try #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:05] <TwoD_> backup?
[22:06] <losha> preecher: presumably it's this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_One
[22:06] <DasEi> mwf: assuming your repos are up set up correctly, apt-cache search lets you find package-names
[22:06] <TwoD_> backup!
[22:06] <TwoD_> :7
[22:06] <Stormx2> m-m-m-m-m-monster kill!
[22:06] <poseidon> the new ubuntu instillation is amazing.  I wish I could have used this freshman year in high school rather than gentoo :)
[22:06] <hellupline> join #ubuntu-br
[22:06] <mwf> lstarnes: "deluge-torrent" exists in the package database, but it is not a real package and no package provides it.
[22:07] <christoph3141> !netsplit
[22:07] <thebwt> anyone else getting strange connection issues?
[22:07] <akrohit> Tohuw, I don't want the user names to displayed. I want them to be entered
[22:07] <mgmuscari> whoa, that was an intense netsplit
[22:07] <EntityReborn> ffs
[22:08] <TheAsp> ugh
[22:08] <akrohit> carresmd, did you get anything on login delay?
[22:08] <adac> Is it possible to do an upgrade even if I totally out of disk space?
[22:08] <jad> adac: No
[22:08] <Lazy> adac: no
[22:08] <mwf> lstarnes: what do you mean? sorry i'm bad at this
[22:08] <j484r> wow
[22:08] <senses2009> ïèñåö((((((((((( ïðîñòî, çàäîëáàëè ýòè ñïèñêè, ìîæåò ãäå-òî íàéäåòñÿ ïîìîùü ñ ïî÷òîé?
[22:08] <lstarnes> mwf: by what?
[22:08] <matrix_> netsplit happens to everyone who upgraded to ubuntu 9.10 lol
[22:08] <woddf2> How much disk space is required then?
[22:08] <DasEi> adac: nope
[22:08] <carresmd> akrohit, still looking ... it's a hard thing to find
[22:08] <lstarnes> mwf: just forget everything I said so far
[22:08] <matrix_> DasEi: i rebooted but i forgot the command line can you  tell me again
[22:08] <lstarnes> mwf: run sudo apt-get install deluge-torrent and see what happens
[22:08] <mooh01> moi je une fille qui conais  le sex
[22:08] <mooh01> il ya quelquin
[22:08] <jad> woddf2: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade will tell you it's different for each person
[22:09] <akrohit> carresmd, ok. thanks anyway
[22:09] <DasEi> !resolutuion | matrix_
[22:09] <woddf2> jad: Thanks
[22:09] <adac> Lazy, DasEi Can't I just symlink the apt folders to an external disk?
[22:09] <jad> !fr
[22:09] <senses2009> ðåáÿòà ÿ âàì ñåé÷àñ áóäó çàñûðàòü òåêñò, ïîêà êòî-òî íå îòâåòèò ìíå íà ìîåì ÿçûêå
[22:09] <senses2009> õîòèòå?
[22:09] <DasEi> !resolution | matrix_
[22:09] <j484r> is there a fix for mounting /etc/fstab.. failed after i tried to upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10
[22:09] <senses2009> à ìíå ïîôèã î ÷åì âû ïèøåòå
[22:09] <senses2009> ìíå íóæíà ìîÿ ïî÷òà
[22:09] <mnaines> I cannot receive PMs from ubottu because of Bot Sentry
[22:09] <jhb1608> I need ot know if they are sure they already upgraded the version.
[22:09] <senses2009> à êàê ÿ ñþäà ïîïàëà áåçïîíÿòèÿ
[22:09] <matrix_> DasEi: i rebooted but i forgot the command line can you  tell me again  you told me a command line sudo dpkg
[22:09] <senses2009> òàê ÷òî
[22:09] <matrix_> can you tell me that again
[22:10] <jad> mnaines: Hush :) ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:10] <Tohuw> mnaines: turn botsentry off for your freenode account then.
[22:10] <senses2009> æäó îòâåòîâ
[22:10] <senses2009> è ðåøåíèé çàäà÷
[22:10] <senses2009> êòî ïåðâûé?
[22:10] <mnaines> senses2009: Stop that
[22:10] <jad> Tohuw: So no Koala for me ?
[22:10] <Tohuw> jdb: what do you get from modprobe -l | grep -i intel? (pastebin it, the list could be long)
[22:10] <Tohuw> jad, I mean, not jdb
[22:10] <Tohuw> sorry
[22:10] <jhb1608> it is weird, certain programs freezes (Firefox and Empathy), my system is fine now, but I dunno why it causes the freezing.
[22:10] <j484r> probably he/she hasn;t come to her/his senses
[22:10] <DasEi> adac: the problem will be that you need more space to install , before the old packages can be deleted
[22:10] <Flannel> senses2009: Please speak english here, thanks.
[22:11] <DasEi> matrix_: log out, then on commandline run : sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[22:11] <j484r> did u see my question? so i know am waiting for answer....
[22:11] <senses2009> mnaines, why? possibly will write in my language?
[22:11] <jad> Tohuw: Hold on installing kwin I'll grab pastebinit when it's done
[22:11] <tclarkie> hi, i need toset up a firewall to block youtube for 16 macs, any pointers
[22:11] <MidnightDevil> hi
[22:11] <mnaines> senses2009: Because this is an English-only room and all I can see are endless question marks
[22:11] <RobLikesBrunch> carresmd: Bad news, I had to use the command again.
[22:11] <dupondje> j484r: how you mean mounting /etc/fstab ?
[22:11] <MidnightDevil> my network doesn't seem to be detected on my new karmic koala install.. i already defined manual settings but still nothing.. what can i do?
[22:11] <adac> DasEi, I see. that is a problem then. my persistent live usb stick is unfortunately not that big :/ Guess I'dd need to buy a bigger one then
[22:11] <jad> mnaines: Get a Unicode IRC client :)
[22:11] <RobLikesBrunch> carresmd: When I restart, it defaults back to speakers.
[22:11] <Tohuw> akrohit: ah, not sure. on that. there could be settings in gconf-editor relevant to what you want to change
[22:12] <j484r> yes dupondje ;)
[22:12] <Daimonic> Hey, someone here using Terminator on ubuntu 9.10 ??
[22:12] <zeeble> mnaines: is there some program that provides a GUI interface to ssh/sftp?
[22:12] <akrohit> k
[22:12] <akrohit> Tohuw, ok. thanks
[22:12] <offspring> phoenixz: it now says line 59 is unknown
[22:12] <TwoD> zeeble: try PuTTY
[22:12] <mwf> lstarnes: it choose deluge insted of deluge-torrent.. then et prints, Package deluge has no available version, but referenced in a second package. It may mean that this package have been superseded or can only be retrieved from other sources < E: The package deluge has no installation candidate
[22:12] <dupondje> adac: where doesn't it get detected ?
[22:12] <Flannel> zeeble: Most FTP clients do sftp.  Filezilla, for instance.
[22:12] <Tohuw> zeeble: nautilus
[22:12] <tflgen2> anyone experienced in port forwarding over ssh?
[22:12] <zeeble> ah, ok. thanks, Flannel, Tohuw
[22:12] <Tohuw> !anyone | tflgen2
[22:12] <senses2009> mnaines, will I leave off well, I need a help, how it to do?
[22:12] <Daimonic> Hey, someone here using Terminator on ubuntu 9.10 ??
[22:13] <mnaines> zeeble, no, there isn't...
[22:13] <dupondje> tflgen2: man ssh
[22:13] <Daimonic> atleast one, come on *g*
[22:13] <phoenixz> offspring: check whats on that line.. make sure there is no empty trailing line
[22:13] <Tohuw> senses2009: what is your native language?
[22:13] <phoenixz> offspring: off for lunch now, laters
[22:13] <nkei0> Sup Ya'll, Anyone know about using KlamAV in Ubuntu (meaning a kde app in a gnome gtk)...?
[22:13] <jad> Tohuw: http://pastebin.com/f9ed697d
[22:13] <carresmd> RobLikesBrunch, do the 'alsamixer' thing .. and after that do 'alsactl store' and 'sudo alsactl store (just to be sure)' and reboot.. see if it stays now
[22:13] <senses2009> ãëêôøòó
[22:13] <dANCEmUSIC> hey gang
[22:13] <senses2009> ukraine
[22:13] <nkei0> !klamav
[22:13] <Tohuw> !anyone | nkei0
[22:13] <dANCEmUSIC> adobe flash?
[22:13] <offspring> phoenixz: For Ubuntu Hardy (8.04): is all there is on that line
[22:13] <senses2009> russian
[22:13] <CKyle33> I have a quick question: Is there gonna be an .img release of NBR?
[22:13] <magicrobotmonkey> i upgraded from jaunty to karmic and my wireless disappeared
[22:13] <adac> dupondje, What you mean? the disk space? on /
[22:13] <jad> nkei0: It works fine
[22:13] <Rods_Tiger> Is there a point to using "bit torrent" - it's unbelievably slow - by the time I've downloaded the image, the next version will be out.
[22:13] <Tohuw> !ru | senses2009
[22:13] <dupondje> adac: you say errors ...
[22:14] <phoenixz> offspring: and you expect apt-get to understand what that means? Where is the # ???
[22:14] <RobLikesBrunch> carresmd: "alsactl: get_control:249: Cannot read control '2,0,0,Mic Capture Volume,0': Invalid argument
[22:14] <RobLikesBrunch> "
[22:14] <j484r> to cut the story... was doing the upgrade, it downloaded the packages and installed.. then spiked to 100% cpu... so i rebooted and get this error about mounting
[22:14] <nkei0> jad, Hmm, I just installed it, and set it to update the virus stuff but I think it froze.  It's been at 0% for 9 hours...
[22:14] <adac> dupondje, did i?
[22:14] <jad> Rods_Tiger: It will be waaay faster tomorrow
[22:14] <CKyle33> !torrents
[22:14] <phoenixz> offspring: make sure line 58 does NOT have a # behind it, and that line 59 will be commented with a #
[22:14] <phoenixz> laters
[22:14] <Flannel> senses2009: /join #ubuntu-ua
[22:14] <leaf-sheep> Rods_Tiger: Stay on your Jaunty version then.
[22:14] <Moonlit> Rods_Tiger - HTTP's fine, the advantage to torrents is that everyone shares the bandwidth when a new person gets a copy
[22:14] <knarfix> dANCEmUSIC: want to install it?
[22:14] <dANCEmUSIC> Yes.
[22:14] <blabla> HI! I've a problem with the upgrade to 9.10. finally when I restart every choise of grub give me an error, error unknown. how can I reinstalling grub from livecd? help me, please.
[22:14] <tflgen2> dupondje: yes, i know. my problem is that in trying to do a local forward, (e.g. ssh -g -L10000:remote-ip:3389 user@host) I can connect to the localhost:10000 after the session is established, but when trying to connect to 10000 from any other machine, it times out.
[22:14] <carresmd> RobLikesBrunch, what about 'alsactl store 2' ?
[22:14] <Tohuw> !flash | dANCEmUSIC
[22:14] <MidnightDevil> my network doesn't seem to be detected on my new karmic koala install.. i already defined manual settings but still nothing.. what can i do?
[22:14] <jad> Tohuw: Not that long a list
[22:15] <senses2009> ubottu, I not against a help on Russian, where is it needed to go?
[22:15] <knarfix> dANCEmUSIC: try in ubuntu software center
[22:15] <dANCEmUSIC> Alright.
[22:15] <dANCEmUSIC> Thankyou kindly.
[22:15] <knarfix> dANCEmUSIC: karmic right?
[22:15] <RobLikesBrunch> carresmd: That worked. Let me restart.
[22:15] <Tohuw> jad: is it really empty, or is pastebin just crapping out again?
[22:15] <nkei0> MidnightDevil, What do you mean your network isn't detected?  wireless or wired?  tried ipconfig and iwconfig?
[22:15] <offspring> phoenixz: that did it, thanks alot!
[22:15] <j484r> its amazing, i;ve always had problems with the upgrade... LOL
[22:15] <Flannel> senses2009: #ubuntu-ua is the Ukranian LoCo channel.  Russian is #ubuntu-ru
[22:15] <tully_>  hi, i need toset up a firewall to block youtube for 16 macs, any pointers
[22:15] <CKyle33> I have a quick question: Is there gonna be an .img release of NBR?
[22:15] <stittel> Hi! Where are the hashes for the 9.10 ISOs? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes doesn't include 9.10 yet.
[22:16] <kyrandesa> senses2009: #ubuntu-ua
[22:16] <MidnightDevil> nkei0 neither of it...
[22:16] <jad> Tohuw: Not empty just a bout 7 lines
[22:16] <Lazy> adac: yeah you probably could mount apt directory to another disk but if the disk space is really tight i would not recommend it because some programs might take more space
[22:16] <tom967> hello
[22:16] <ThomasHC> gtg bye
[22:16] <tottiq> hello
[22:16] <MidnightDevil> nkei0 when i type ifconfig i get 127.0.0.1 even tho i configured manually both wired and wireless connections
[22:16] <jad> !ua
[22:16] <carresmd> akrohit, try http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=8174773&postcount=12
[22:16] <senses2009> Flanne, write in English, for me hieroglyphs
[22:16] <tottiq> !karmic
[22:16] <tommy^x> great release guys!
[22:16] <tottiq> (:
[22:16] <tommy^x> thumbs up
[22:16] <Tohuw> jad: sorry, it shows empty for me. anything there look like intel-agp.ko or so?
[22:16] <matrix_> Dasei: i still can not change my screen resoulution anyone who can help me i am really tired of this upgrade 9.10
[22:16] <tommy^x> 9.10 is really great
[22:17] <tommy^x> im off
[22:17] <j484r> lol
[22:17] <dANCEmUSIC> Im still using 8.04.
[22:17] <nkei0> MidnightDevil, What I'm getting at is, Is your network card(s) working?  iwconfig will show if your radio is on/off and whatnot
[22:17] <tottiq> haha
[22:17]  * tommy^x p0ff
[22:17] <zeeble> anyone with a gtalk account i can send a test message to see if empathy is working?
[22:17] <tom967> pulseaudio problems, anyone?
[22:17] <Daimonic> anyone uses Terminator?
[22:17] <jad> Tohuw: Yes 4th line
[22:17] <k1lumin4t1_> UBUNTU SUX
[22:17] <jorisslob> tom967: Yes me!
[22:17] <p1und3r> anyone here upgrade from 9.04 64-bit to 9.10 64-bit?
[22:18] <RobLikesBrunch1> carresmd: worked great, thanks.
[22:18] <carresmd> RobLikesBrunch1, I'm happy :-)
[22:18] <Tohuw> !anyone | p1und3r
[22:18] <leaf-sheep> !anyone | tom967 Plugh
[22:18] <leaf-sheep> Meh.
[22:18] <mnaines> p1und3r: I did...I would recommend a clean install
[22:18] <RobLikesBrunch1> carresmd: Thanks again for all your help!
[22:18] <carresmd> RobLikesBrunch1, sure no problem
[22:18] <TheCheeze> p1und3r, am doing it now
[22:18] <TheCheeze> what's up?
[22:18] <blabla> HI! I've a problem with the upgrade to 9.10. finally when I restart every choise of grub give me an error, error unknown. how can I reinstalling grub from livecd? help me, please.
[22:18] <tom967> jorisslob: cracking droppin losin sound?
[22:18] <j484r> me p1und3r
[22:18] <TheAsp> Is there a way to get devicekit to ignore devices?  i have a removeable drive with a partition on it i don't want to mount automatically.  i used to have a rule for hal to stop it, but I can't find a way to do this with devicekit
[22:18] <matrix_> hellllloooooooooooooo
[22:18] <matrix_> anyone who can help me
[22:18] <k1lumin4t1_> UBUNTU SUX
[22:18] <knarfix> dANCEmUSIC: got it?
[22:18] <DasEi> p1und3r: what is your problem ?
[22:18] <bsmart> whats everyones favorite theme?
[22:18] <ngranek> k1lumin4t1_, why do you say that?
[22:18] <jad> k1lumin4t1_: Agreed! Lets help make it better :)
[22:18] <Tohuw> !patience | matrix_
[22:18] <senses2009> boys and what zanimaetes' you here? I here first, and probably vposledniy of one times -_-)))))))
[22:18] <j484r> oh why mnaines ..?
[22:18] <Tohuw> come back ubottu, we need your pre-generated wisdom!
[22:18] <k1lumin4t1_> ngranek, since you use it... DISTRO SLUT
[22:18] <mnaines> j484r: Sit in here long enough and you will see a whole list of problems people are having with the upgrades
[22:19] <Tohuw> ngranek: do not feed the trolls
[22:19] <senses2009> my translator is bad
[22:19] <Sky[x]> hoe to upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10 with install cd ?
[22:19] <jorisslob> tom967: At least, I think it might be pulseaudio. I did a clean install of 9.10, but no sound.
[22:19] <Sky[x]> how*
[22:19] <notsmoothop> should i get the netbook remix or regular image
[22:19] <p1und3r> jorisslob: i had that on my other laptop when i downloaded RC version
[22:19] <MidnightDevil> nkei0 it says "no wireless extensions" , i clicked the button to enable it (the external button on the laptop" but nothing seems to happen
[22:19] <p1und3r> lol wtfs
[22:19] <carresmd> !english | senses2009
[22:19] <jad> blabla: You did a clean install or  an upgrade?
[22:19] <Tohuw> senses2009: #ubuntu-ua #ubuntu-ru
[22:19] <jad> Sky[x]: You need the alternate CD
[22:19] <jorisslob> tom967, p1und3r: No, no sound at all
[22:19] <p1und3r> DasEi: i just wanted to know how smookth the upgrade is atm
[22:19] <jad> !ca
[22:19] <Tohuw> crap, ubottu just got banned by floodbot
[22:19] <knarfix> matrix_: what graphic card do you have?
[22:19] <nkei0> MidnightDevil, Alright, laptop or desktop?
[22:20] <nkei0> MidnightDevil, Err, i'm retarded.
[22:20] <MidnightDevil> laptop, acer
[22:20] <Moonlit> bot wars!
[22:20] <ubox> wtf, no more ubuntu+1 ?
[22:20] <blabla> jad: upgrade :°
[22:20] <ngranek> k1lumin4t1_, i invite you to try the new 9.10
[22:20] <adac> Lazy, about 150 Megabyte. that is very thight
[22:20] <p1und3r> jorisslob: i upgraded alsa drivers to 1.0.21 and downloaded gnome-alsamixer i think and fixed it
[22:20] <MrSchmo> anyone have a successful upgrade to 9.10?
[22:20] <leaf-sheep> ubox: #ubuntu+1 is #ubuntu
[22:20] <ripps> ubox: karmic is out
[22:20] <ngranek> k1lumin4t1_, it's really nice
[22:20] <bluebanana> hi, i am trying to install ubuntu 9.10 on my laptop but after the initial screen i choose the 'use without changes to computer option', i hear the ubuntu intro sound but the screen is black.. .can somebody help?
[22:20] <j484r> mnaines : sorry to hear them... i had the same when i upgrade from 8.04 to 9.04... its common theme for me... i will download and install from clean... BTW you lot are doing a great job... well done.. keep up the good work...
[22:20] <knarfix> MrSchmo: yes
[22:20] <Zlobi> Hello
[22:20] <ngranek> k1lumin4t1_, with great artwork BTW
[22:20] <ubox> oh, so the beta is no longer beta then?
[22:20] <Tohuw> !ops, ubottu just got banned... might want to exclude it from Floodbot -.-
[22:20] <ripps> ngranek: stop talking to the troll
[22:20] <DasEi> p1und3r: should be easy, read : http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/karmic/alpha4
[22:20] <Guest1> Is this channel for Ubuntu 9.10?
[22:20]  * mwf slaps lstarnes around a bit with a large trout
[22:20] <Tohuw> ubox: correct
[22:20] <Ted1> good evening
[22:20] <senses2009> ubottu, ïîòèøîàòïùøîüêùïåëüøâàîïòùøê, WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! it is the bad Russian words
[22:20] <k1lumin4t1_> ngranek, fagget
[22:20] <ubox> cool :)
[22:20] <Ziber> Using mutt, can the email address be different than the user account?
[22:21] <julianoliver> Ziber: yes. see 'set from'
[22:21] <Tohuw> Ziber: not for local system mail. For external-to-server mail, yes.
[22:21] <jad> blabla: The instructions on the Wiki should tell you what to do.
[22:21] <nkei0> MidnightDevil, I actually had an acer with the same problem.  There is a bit of code out there that will most likely help you.  What's happening is the command that your hardware on/off switch generates isn't being recognized.  You need to look into "acerhk" otherwise known as Acer Hot Keys
[22:21] <Guest1> Is this channel for Ubuntu 9.10?
[22:21] <jad> !grub | blabla
[22:21] <julianoliver> Ziber: also #mutt
[22:21] <Tohuw> Guest1: yes
[22:21] <j484r> Guest 1 : YES! just fire a question
[22:21] <knarfix> Guest1: :) yes
[22:21] <j484r> lol
[22:22] <Zlobi> I have ubuntu 9.10 BETA. Can I update to stable now? Site says that only 9.04 can >> 9.10
[22:22] <jorisslob> tom967, p1und3r: alsa-base is at the latest version according to apt-get, I have tried gnome-alsamixer
[22:22] <DasEi> !bootoptions  | bluebanana
[22:22] <MrSchmo> oh man, i have not backup my system and doing an upgrade. it better not go wrong
[22:22] <Guest1> I would like to know
[22:22] <DrMrHorse> !torrents
[22:22] <jad> Guest1: Yes
[22:22] <jad> Zlobi: Yes
[22:22] <Guest1> what is the default theme for 9.10
[22:22] <Flannel> Zlobi: Just do daily updates (with update-manager) and you're all set
[22:22] <Tohuw> Zlobi: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[22:22] <Tohuw> guest1: human
[22:22] <knarfix> Guest1: the name of the theme?
[22:22] <Zlobi> jad: 10x, how?
[22:22] <Ted1> i was upgrading from 9.04 to 9.10 when the upgrade crashed... my laptop will now not reboot, it says the mounts cannot be mounted... any ideas on how i recover from this?
[22:22] <gOLDfeesh> Hey my udev doesn't work
[22:22] <Guest1> tohuw: human?
[22:22] <Tohuw> !doesntwork | gOLDfeesh
[22:23] <ngranek> Ted1, try to umount the by hand
[22:23] <Guest1> Tohuw: Not human clearlooks?
[22:23] <j484r> i got that Ted1, u using 64bit?
[22:23] <gOLDfeesh> !annoying | Tohuw
[22:23] <gOLDfeesh> haha sorry
[22:23] <jad> Zlobi: A normal update will get you to 9.10 I'd say wait two or three days to let the servers cool off you aleready have most of the benefits
[22:23] <Tohuw> Guest1: the default theme for ubuntu has always been human
[22:23] <DasEi> Guest1: humane is the name of default-theme
[22:23] <ManateeLazyCat> How to setup "refresh frequency" in 9.10? now, i just can select 60hz, but i can setup 75hz in 9.04. Thanks.
[22:23] <DasEi> Guest1: human* is the name of default-theme
[22:23] <Tohuw> !manners | gOLDfeesh
[22:23] <Guest1> oh dead
[22:23] <Zlobi> jad: ok
[22:23] <Guest1> i mean oh dear
[22:23] <gOLDfeesh> !flood | Tohuw
[22:23] <jad> Tohuw: Should I have agp or not?
[22:23] <Zlobi> will help with torrents
[22:23] <leaf-sheep> !away > carresmd|afk
[22:23] <mnaines> j484r: I always try to help...I want to learn all I can about Linux so I can do tech support
[22:23] <gOLDfeesh> I'll stop..
[22:23] <knarfix> Guest1: its name is humanity
[22:23] <gOLDfeesh> anywas..
[22:23] <ManateeLazyCat> I found screen position is wrong when fresh frequency is 60hz.
[22:23] <mathepic> I seem to be unable to upgrade from 9.10 Live CD (I'm on 9.4)
[22:23] <senses2009> thanks to everybody, all the successes -_-))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
[22:23] <Guest1> o...
[22:24] <p1und3r> jorisslob: dont listen to apt-get
[22:24] <mathepic> The dialog does not appear when I mount it
[22:24] <Simkin> thank you for removing shit brown backgrounds in ubuntu 9.10
[22:24]  * jad hugs senses2009 
[22:24] <Guest1> I believe i set that
[22:24] <carresmd|afk> leaf-sheep, thanks
[22:24] <Guest1> Thank you for the info
[22:24] <leaf-sheep> carresmd|afk: You're welcome.
[22:24] <_atomic> Hi
[22:24] <senses2009> ýò îçíà÷àåò óäà÷è)))))
[22:24] <jad> !hmy | Simkin
[22:24] <FireCrotch> Simkin: please watch your language
[22:24] <jad> !ohmy | Simkin
[22:24] <DasEi> mathepic: http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/karmic/alpha4
[22:24] <Flannel> mathepic: Alternate CDs can be used to upgrade, Desktop CDs can't (only used to install)
[22:24] <p1und3r> jorisslob: google "alsa upgrade script" and get it from ubuntu forums
[22:24] <Tohuw> jad: yes. it's a default kernel module. I'm not sure on your answer. Try asking in #xorg, they probably have a better idea.
[22:24] <mathepic> And in the upgrade manager, it tells me to insert the cd
[22:24] <j484r> mnaines : Good Luck!.. you will get there
[22:24] <gOLDfeesh> Yah my udev doesn't seem to pick up my phone. I know it's a bug with Ubuntu Jaunty found at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/368053
[22:24] <jad> Tohuw: Thanks
[22:24] <mathepic> It used to give me the option though
[22:24] <mathepic> Now it doesn't
[22:24] <Sensiva> !resolution
[22:24] <gOLDfeesh> Any ideas on how to workaround that or if Karmic has fixed that/
[22:24] <jad> Tohuw: What's the current kernel in Koala ?
[22:24] <_atomic> don't know
[22:25] <gOLDfeesh> I know it used to work in Hardy that's for sure
[22:25] <mnaines> j484r: Thanks.
[22:25] <julianoliver> jad: 2.6.31
[22:25] <mathepic> I know the alternate allows you to, but I thought live provided the functionality as well
[22:25] <jad> julianoliver: Which ubuntu revision ?
[22:25] <gOLDfeesh> `1234567890-AS
[22:25] <gOLDfeesh> OOPS
[22:25] <DasEi> jad: 2.6.31-14
[22:25] <jad> DasEi: thanks
[22:25] <adac> Lazy, Do you know which apt folder I would have to symlink to the extrenal hd?
[22:25] <knarfix> jad: 2.6.31-14
[22:25] <julianoliver> jad: i'm currently on Debian Lenny here. type uname -r to find out.
[22:26] <Tohuw> jad: 2.6.31-14-generic
[22:26] <jad> OK that's what I'm running
[22:26] <jad> MIght have to go back to the Beta kernel
[22:26] <j484r> Looks like i've learnt a lesson here, going to start a clean install for ubuntu 64bit... ;)
[22:26] <jad> that crashesd every 15 minutes but at least there is a GUI
[22:26] <jorisslob> tom967, p1und3r: Hmm... I am going to relog, now my sound is messed up. It gives me a message that the the sound system is in use and I can't access it anymore
[22:26] <Ted1> 64bit
[22:26] <Tohuw> jad: have you tried sudo dpkg --reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[22:27] <EntityReborn> hm
[22:27] <jad> Tohuw: Hmm no lets see
[22:27] <EntityReborn> well
[22:27] <EntityReborn> 9.10 still sucks for dual head
[22:27] <EntityReborn> not working(tm)
[22:27] <p1und3r> jorisslob: after the script?
[22:27] <cdw32> Would anyone know how to increase video quality?
[22:27] <jad> Tohuw: That's --reconfigure not dplkg-reconfigure ?
[22:27] <Tohuw> EntityReborn: X sucks for dual head, and always will until it is fundamentally changed.
[22:27] <jad> dpkg-reconfigure
[22:27] <j484r> Ted1 : i have the same problem, and like others too.... best to do a clean install...
[22:27] <offspring> is it possible to be able to use the files from your Windows partition without having to reinstall them on the Linux partition?
[22:27] <Tohuw> jad: sorry, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[22:27] <jorisslob> p1und3r: No this is before the script, this is after doing too many things that I found on forums
[22:27] <jad> offspring: Sure you can
[22:28] <p1und3r> yes offspring
[22:28] <p1und3r> jorisslob: ah
[22:28] <EntityReborn> Tohuw, konw anyone who's got it running as it should?
[22:28] <Tohuw> offspring: depends on the files, probably yes
[22:28] <offspring> jad: how would i do that?
[22:28] <Tohuw> EntityReborn: define "as it should" :)
[22:28] <jad> offspring: mount the drive
[22:28] <gOLDfeesh> Yah my udev doesn't seem to pick up my phone. I know it's a bug with Ubuntu Jaunty found at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/368053   It worked fine in Hardy though. Any idea if it'll be fixed in Karmic?
[22:28] <Tohuw> !ntfs | offspring
[22:28] <jorisslob> p1und3r: restarting alsa, removing .pulse directories... I hope that relogging will return it to 'normal'-not-working
[22:28] <gOLDfeesh> !sorry | tohtori
[22:28] <gOLDfeesh> oops
[22:28] <gOLDfeesh> lol.
[22:28] <jad> Tohuw: Nope there is no kernel module
[22:29] <jad> Ah well I'll figure it out tomorrow
[22:29] <EntityReborn> Tohuw, side by side, two independant resolutions
[22:29] <Tohuw> jad: yeah, I'm just not sure, sorry :( try asking in #xorg
[22:29] <DarkKnightCZ> Hi can i have a question? how will i set subdomain in LAMP like mysql.db (/var/www/phpmyadmin), it is redirecting me to /var/www all the time
[22:29] <p1und3r> jorisslob: ok im about to upgrade and see wut kinda problems i can start
[22:29] <Tohuw> EntityReborn: intel/nvidia/ati?
[22:29] <EntityReborn> Tohuw, note, i have a intel 855GM
[22:29] <EntityReborn> older chip
[22:29] <gOLDfeesh> DarkKnightCZ, try asking in #apache
[22:29] <jad> Tohuw: ok
[22:29] <j484r> ok, now am shooting... take care and keep smiling..  you will get help!!
[22:29] <Tohuw> EntityReborn: works fine on my nvidia boxen, but that's using nvidia-setings
[22:29] <DarkKnightCZ> thx
[22:29] <ngranek> DarkKnightCZ, subdomains usually are defined as virtualhosts in apache
[22:30] <snellcode> DarkKnightCZ: its a vhost in your conf file
[22:30] <EntityReborn> Tohuw, thats using Nvidia :P
[22:30] <t2ttmp> well this is slow how slow can the package servers be
[22:30] <ManateeLazyCat> /etc/X11/xorg.conf doesn't exist in Ubuntu 9.10 ?
[22:30] <jad> j484r: I'm smiling but standing on my head does that count?
[22:30] <boscop> is karmic faster than jaunty? because on my laptop jaunty is very slow compared to windows, but I want to keep ubuntu
[22:30] <EntityReborn> ManateeLazyCat, does for me
[22:30] <DarkKnightCZ> yes it is, but it isnt working
[22:30] <t2ttmp> 1.74k sec average
[22:30] <ngranek> ManateeLazyCat, it does not exists by default .... you can create one though
[22:30] <matrix_> how to install  VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 01)
[22:30] <matrix_> 	Subsystem: Fujitsu Limited. Device 11e3
[22:30] <matrix_>  on ubuntu 9.10
[22:30] <Tohuw> EntityReborn: yes :P read up on xrandr and see if maybe you can get it together
[22:30] <snellcode> DarkKnightCZ: try #apache i guess
[22:30] <ngranek> ManateeLazyCat, if you install the nvidia drivers one will be created for you
[22:30] <EntityReborn> bah
[22:30] <DarkKnightCZ> ok
[22:30] <Tohuw> !enter | matrix_
[22:30] <EntityReborn> Tohuw, kk
[22:30] <loufoque> can anyone point me to a link giving the new features of karmic koala?
[22:30] <ManateeLazyCat> ngranek: No, I'm Intel.
[22:31] <mage__> !cron
[22:31] <DeathMetalDean> does anyone know how to open .bat files? my mate wants to open them on open suse, dunno if there is a difference
[22:31] <EntityReborn> xrandr
[22:31] <EntityReborn> !xrandr
[22:31] <ngranek> ManateeLazyCat, you can create one, and xorg will read it
[22:31] <CO2> cvcv
[22:31] <nixiepixel> Oh noes! I deleted partitions without removing Grub and then installed Koala .. now I have a Grub error 17... halllp! ='( ?
[22:31] <Powersource> can anyone help? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8191160#post8191160
[22:31] <mage__> DeathMetalDean: a batch file is a shell script from windows, run it through wine?
[22:31] <daleharvey> anyone happen to know what the md5sum for 9.10 desktop i386 is?
[22:31] <matrix_> hey guys when i go to system hardware drivers and i want to install my graphic card it does not detect it, i just upgraded to 9.10
[22:31] <DeathMetalDean> ok thanks
[22:32] <jad> !md5sum
[22:32] <mwf> I have a problem with apt-get.. I tried to install deluge, but it prints out this: Package deluge has no available version, but referenced in a second package. It may mean that this package have been superseded or can only be retrieved from other sources < E: The package deluge has no installation candidate... anyone can help me?
[22:32] <ManateeLazyCat> ngranek: I want to know how to change "refresh frequency" in 9.10, in 9.10, i only have 60hz, but i have two frequency: 60hz and 75hz in 9.04, i think something wrong in 9.10.
[22:32] <Zlobi> ok, torrenting 9.10 desktop 32 & 64, and server 64
[22:32] <carresmd> daleharvey, http://releases.ubuntu.com/karmic/MD5SUMS
[22:32] <Ottomf> hi, i have problem with installing steam, annyone care to help?  i have installd wine.. but when i run steam it starts to log in to my acount and wine starts to install gecko, and then it just shuts down, anny ide?
[22:32] <jad> daleharvey: ^^^
[22:32] <Zlobi> Do you need more?
[22:32] <korcan> trying to install:   sudo apt-get install python-pypdf  I get: Couldn't find package python-pypdf
[22:32] <korcan> any ideas?  9.04
[22:32] <henux> good evening
[22:32] <jad> Ottomf: try #winehq
[22:32] <ngranek> ManateeLazyCat, check which version of xorg you are using and check the xorg documentation ... maybe the driver has changed
[22:33] <mage__> mwf: if nobody helps you, look at packages.ubuntu.com
[22:33] <nixiepixel> Nobody here good with Grub?
[22:33] <jad> !info python-pypdf
[22:33] <Xgates> say did Karmic have you download lang. packs during the install? I don't remember, but now 9.10 does...
[22:33] <Ottomf> jad: tnx
[22:33] <daleharvey> ok, so I definetly have the correct file
[22:33] <pauliuspa> anyone knows when ubuntu one is going to work with 9.10 ?
[22:33] <mage__> !info deluge
[22:33] <Loafers> "E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?"  No processes are using it...... what do I do?
[22:33] <carresmd> Xgates, happened here as well
[22:33] <daleharvey> ubuntu has crashed on my like 30 times during installation now
[22:33] <korcan> jad, how do I get it to install?  Couldn't find package python-pypdf
[22:33] <daleharvey> 3 different mediums
[22:33] <jad> korcan: It's in universe do you have universe turned on?
[22:33] <ngranek> korcan, aptitude install python-pypdf
[22:33] <mnaines> daleharvey: Are you trying to upgrade or do a clean install?
[22:33] <daleharvey> all at different stages
[22:34] <Xgates> sucks you can't pick and choose during the install stuff like this....
[22:34] <daleharvey> clean install
[22:34] <korcan> jad how do I turn it on?
[22:34] <ngranek> ngranek, did you aptitude update after installation?
[22:34] <mnaines> daleharvey: Try cleaning the CD and try again
[22:34] <jad> !universe | korcan
[22:34] <Rods_Tiger> Look, UNR simply doesn't work - when you shut the netbook's lid, then come back to it and open it, everything's frozen and the only way to use it is to pull the battery out.
[22:34] <Xgates> I'm sitting waiting forever for the darn thing to download...
[22:34] <Xgates> :(
[22:34] <jad> korcan: First link
[22:34] <DarkKnightCZ> is there any active channel with apache support?
[22:34] <daleharvey> ive tried with the cd, with a usb stick and an external hard drive
[22:34] <matrix_> hey guys when i go to system hardware drivers and i want to install my graphic card it does not detect it, i just upgraded to 9.10
[22:34] <Brent^> if my computer is over 125 F what should I do?
[22:34] <jad> DarkKnightCZ: @apach2
[22:34] <DarkKnightCZ> thx
[22:34] <matrix_> hey guys when i go to system hardware drivers and i want to install my graphic card it does not detect it, i just upgraded to 9.10
[22:34] <jad> #apache2 DarkKnightCZ Sorry
[22:34] <joaopinto> matrix_, which graphics cards is it ?
[22:35] <DarkKnightCZ> jop
[22:35] <carresmd> Xgates, the mirrors are very slow right now...
[22:35] <Xgates> Brent^: what cpu, and how far over 125?
[22:35] <jad> matrix_: please stop saying things twice
[22:35] <matrix_>  VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 01
[22:35] <ManateeLazyCat> ngranek: 9.04 can work with 75hz, 8.10 and 9.10 can't work. So have an easy way to change "refersh frequency"? Thanks!
[22:35] <daleharvey> mnaines: ive given up trying with the cd, it only got to the install screen like 2 out of 10 times
[22:35] <carresmd> Xgates, damn 9.10 release ^^
[22:35] <DarkKnightCZ> jad: apache2 - 2 people, me and bot
[22:35] <Xgates> carresmd: well the thing is, if you don't need lang packs then you shouldn't have to install them, total waste....
[22:35] <magra> someone that can help me with firestarter?? i need to just open a incoming port not an ip...how can i do that?
[22:35] <ubuntu_> hey. ok my system just crashed. on boot it says it's starting up a maintenance shell and asks for the root password. only i never set a root passowrd. what can i do?
[22:35] <jad> DarkKnightCZ: Bleah #apache
[22:36] <matrix_>  VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 01
[22:36] <snellcode> DarkKnightCZ: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/1.3/vhosts/
[22:36] <Xgates> I'm getting dizzy in this channel, to much text flying by, LOL
[22:36] <Loafers> "E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?"  How do I FIX THIS?
[22:36] <mnaines> Xgates: You'll get used to it
[22:36] <carresmd> Xgates, it does download english lang pack IIRC, but if you started the install without an internet connection it wouldn't have to download them ;-)
[22:36] <daleharvey> holy crap, it appears to have actually booted
[22:36] <matrix_> hey guys when i go to system hardware drivers and i want to install my graphic card it does not detect it, i just upgraded to 9.10
[22:36] <Loafers> No processors are running su
[22:36] <jad> Xgates: join #kubuntu :)
[22:36] <joaopinto> !aptlock | Loafers
[22:36] <EntityReborn> Tohuw, thanks
[22:36] <akrohit> carresmd, that helped. thanks a lot
[22:36] <EntityReborn> grandr helped :)
[22:36] <timblah> Is there a method that I can use to create an ISO file, or any libraries available that I can use?  I want to write a binary file to the first sector of an ISO file.
[22:37] <Tohuw> EntityReborn: great!
[22:37] <carresmd> akrohit, great! no problem!
[22:37] <EntityReborn> just have to figure out how to get out of clone mode :)
[22:37] <daleharvey> if I have an install that I think went a bit wrong, is there anything I can do to just make sure everything is fine?
[22:37] <adams__> what's a good torrent client for ubuntu
[22:37] <mage__> ugh karmic doesn't run cron?
[22:37] <Xgates> carresmd: but the thing is the Ubuntu team should start to cutomize the install... If you do a netinstall you can customize what you want
[22:37] <adams__> that's not transmission
[22:37] <EntityReborn> Ctrl-f5 doesn't help :P
[22:37] <Loafers> joaopinto, thanks a lot!!!
[22:37] <mnaines> If anyone needs help with the 9.10 install, let me know
[22:37] <ubuntu_> my system just crashed. on boot it says it's starting up a maintenance shell and asks for the root password. only i never set a root passowrd. is there anything i can do?
[22:37] <Xgates> I should just go and look if there is already a netinstall iso for this thing
[22:37] <mwf> mage__: when i finds deluge inthere, i says that i need a LOTS of different packages.. should i install them all?
[22:38] <jad> daleharvey: What went wrong?
[22:38] <Tohuw> timblah: there are many, many ways to do that. What is this binary file? Why can't you just use brasero to do it?
[22:38] <qq99> Hey guys, I need either a filesystem or a distro that doesn't completely choke my system when I do any file transfer...  I'm doing SATA NTFS to external USB NTFS transfer, and my computer becomes so unresponsive it is nearly unusable...  IOWAIT on my process monitor is taking it all up seemingly :S
[22:38] <carresmd> Xgates, you probably can with the alternate iso as well?
[22:38] <qq99> things weren't much better using ext3
[22:38] <mage__> ubuntu_: why is it going into maintenance? either fix that from a livecd, or mount the root and chroot to it and set a root password ;)
[22:38] <mnaines> qq99: Try ext4
[22:38] <ubuntu_> i don't have a live cd
[22:38] <matrix_> hey guys when i go to system hardware drivers and i want to install my graphic card it does not detect it, i just upgraded to 9.10
[22:38] <matrix_> hey guys when i go to system hardware drivers and i want to install my graphic card it does not detect it, i just upgraded to 9.10
[22:38] <oorah> anyone else have the brightness flickering problem?
[22:38] <fenixk19> hello
[22:38] <ubuntu_> how do i mount the root?
[22:38] <mage__> mwf: lots? like all of kde/gnome? or stupid stuff?
[22:38] <timblah> the binary file is a compiled (*.asm), and I want to create an (*.iso) file with the binary on sector 1
[22:38] <fenixk19> my ubuntu got broken after update. it fails on every command with saying, that libglib lacks g_array_ref object
[22:38] <mnaines> qq99: I use ext4 and I have zero problems
[22:38] <Um_cara_qualquer> does anyone know a brasilian or portuguese channel for C and C++ programing?
[22:39] <timblah> Tohuw *
[22:39] <qq99> mnaines: I'll give it a go when I install 9.10 later tonight
[22:39] <mnaines> qq99: Just be sure to do a clean install to reduce the hassle
[22:39] <qq99> mnaines: it possible to upgrade my home drive in ext3 to ext4 without deleting the contents?
[22:39] <jad> qq99: you probably need to turn on DMA on your drives
[22:39] <DarkKnightCZ> snellcode: in my file is it the same which is in that site
[22:39] <Tohuw> timblah: yes?
[22:39] <ubuntu_> it crashed cuz i powered of my laptop using the power button. on restart it said it didn't unmount properly so it can't mount the regular mount point now :(
[22:39] <mnaines> jad, Ubuntu defaults to DMA mode
[22:39] <timblah> Tohuw: the binary file is a compiled (*.asm), and I want to create an (*.iso) file with the binary on sector 1
[22:39] <not_recognized> i am new to ubuntu and have a wireless g usb adapter TP-LINK Model: TL-WN422G  (Ver 2.1). the adapter is not recognized. if i do iwconfig my adapter is NOT listed. please, help!
[22:40] <carresmd> Xgates, not sure what you would like to customize though.. as it only installs ubuntu-desktop IIRC
[22:40] <jad> mnaines: Yeah but taking up all his CPU would seem like a no DMA issue wouldnt it?
[22:40] <ManateeLazyCat> How to create /etc/X11/xorg.conf file?
[22:40] <mage__> mwf: I dont know much about deluge but if its gnome and you run kde maybe you want to run a kde torrent client?
[22:40] <adams__> why are the mirrors so slow for pre release ubuntu
[22:40] <fenixk19> my ubuntu got broken after update. it fails on every command with saying, that libglib lacks g_array_ref object
[22:40] <sun`> my friend asked me that he was ubuntu his system restarted and its not opening.
[22:40] <sun`> What can be the solution?
[22:40] <sun`> anyone?
[22:40] <DarkKnightCZ> can someone send me right /etc/apache2/sites-available/default with at least one virtualserver ?
[22:40] <Xgates> carresmd: well for starters getting rid of the lang pack, unless English is wrapped up in it
[22:40] <mwf> mage__: I could try that.. :)
[22:40] <not_recognized> i am running ubuntu 9.04
[22:40] <leaf-sheep> adams__: Karmic came out today.
[22:40] <matrix_> hey guys when i go to system hardware drivers and i want to install my graphic card it does not detect it, i just upgraded to 9.10
[22:40] <mnaines> jad, no, it wouldn't.  It seems to me like its another issue
[22:41] <jad> mage__: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh
[22:41] <adams__> leaf-sheep, ahh
[22:41] <mage__> what
[22:41] <Zlobi> not_recognized: Update the kernel, esp. wireless part, but be careful
[22:41] <jad> mnaines: cool well help him out
[22:41] <yancho> anyone can help me with this error please? E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[22:41] <fenixk19> my ubuntu got broken after update. it fails on every command with saying, that libglib lacks g_array_ref object
[22:41] <jad> sun`: Why doesn't it start?
[22:41] <Tohuw> timblah: ok. I don't know your answer offhand, but try asking in ##c; they know their libraries. but be prepared to just be pointed to a manual and told to read it, because that's how they roll.
[22:41] <oorah> anyone else have the brightness flickering problem?
[22:41] <carresmd> Xgates, true.. but if the mirrors weren't that slow today bacause of the release... it would finish downloading within 10 seconds or so
[22:41] <Loafers> How do I reset xchat configuration?  as soon I close it, the whole app closes aather than minimizing to tray...  and last time i rememberd it's a one time config whe nyou first run it so now its impossible to change
[22:41] <yancho> i have no synaptic or other windows open - i tried apt-get upgrade and apt-get update
[22:41] <yofel> matrix_: did you refresh your package cache?
[22:41] <Tohuw> yancho: does it persist after restart?
[22:42] <not_recognized> Zlobi, does the usb adapter i have actually work on ubuntu??? does a driver exist? updating the kernel?
[22:42] <timblah> Using Brasero, is it possible to select the sector to write the file to?
[22:42] <yancho> Tohuw,  didnt test yet
[22:42] <kbp> fdisk -l give me the list of Partition but it doesn't show up UUID. Does anyone know how to?
[22:42] <adams__> ubuntu has a bad bug?
[22:42] <Tohuw> yancho: TIAS
[22:42] <Bluey> why did ubuntu change my mount points for my usb drive?  its now got 2 underscores__ at the end ?
[22:42] <mage__> carresmd: lots of bandwidth is expensive
[22:42] <jad> Loafers: If it's a config by definition you can change it
[22:42] <Flannel> kbp: sudo blkid
[22:42] <yancho> Tohuw,  tias?
[22:42] <matrix_> does anyone have this graphic card  VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device
[22:42] <kbp> thank you Flannel
[22:42] <jad> matrix_: Me
[22:42] <carresmd> Loafers, try 'gconf-editor'
[22:42] <Tohuw> yancho: Try It And See :)
[22:42] <matrix_> jad: are you on 9.10
[22:42] <Xgates> carresmd: well I'm not just talking about bloat, but giving people options, don't treat all Linux users as newbies making it simply one size fits all, but then again I guess they are doing that in the netinstall and alternate already....
[22:42] <mage__> matrix_: I've got a windows xp box with one :)
[22:42] <carresmd> mage__, I'm not complaining here
[22:42] <jad> matrix_: yes
[22:42] <fenixk19> my ubuntu got broken after update. it fails on every command with saying, that libglib lacks g_array_ref object
[22:42] <Xgates> carresmd: what is the alternate for?
[22:42] <yancho> hehe ok Tohuw  doing so
[22:43] <korcan> jad, I have universe enabled and still can't find package
[22:43] <qq99> wtf, why don't they have a download link to 64bit on the download page? :S
[22:43] <Tohuw> yancho: if that doesn't work, you can sudo rm that lock file. But try restarting first
[22:43] <matrix_> i just upgraded now i can not install my graphic driver
[22:43] <packet-sent> If I choose safe graphic mode on install, do I do anything to run in full graphic mode after install finished and rebooted?
[22:43] <carresmd> Xgates, text-based setup instead of a GTK GUI
[22:43] <Tohuw> qq99: they do.
[22:43] <korcan> jad,   python-pypdf    any other ideas?
[22:43] <matrix_> jad: how did you install your graphic driver
[22:43] <qq99> Tohuw: the big green button only says 32bit
[22:43] <carresmd> Xgates, plus a few other things, like support for mdadm
[22:43] <jad> korcan: sudo apt-get update
[22:43] <qq99> Tohuw: on http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[22:43] <mnaines> qq99: Click on the "Alternate Install Options"
[22:43] <jad> matrix_: I didn't it's broken
[22:44] <Xgates> carresmd: I wonder if it gives you options or just like the gtk install, only ncurses...
[22:44] <matrix_> jad: so you have allso 800 screen resolution
[22:44] <qq99> mnaines: tyvm, somehow more confusing than it needs to be
[22:44] <Loafers> carresmd, thansk, but xchat is not listed under the apps folder
[22:44] <hipitihop> so an upgrade from 9.04 will missout on what ? grub2 ant ext4, anything else ?
[22:44] <mnaines> qq99: Its not as confusing as it appears to be
[22:44] <mage__> matrix_: lack of autodetect for an onboard sounds like a bug, you should consider posting a bug on launchpad
[22:44] <carresmd> Xgates, it's more advanced so I think it will allow you to customize the install a bit
[22:44] <jad> matrix_: I have no screen resolution X crashes at startup with driver module problems if I load the driver the kernel crashes
[22:44] <fenixk19> my ubuntu got broken after update. it fails on every command with saying, that libglib lacks g_array_ref object
[22:44] <mnaines> hipitihop: Nothing missed.  You still get grub and ext4\
[22:44] <leaf-sheep> Loafers: Close XChat.  "mv ~/.xchat2 ~/.xchat2-bak" --- You'll then start with a default XChat configuration.
[22:44] <yofel> matrix_: read this: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/910#No%20Xv%20support%20for%20Intel%2082852/855GM%20video%20chips%20with%20KMS
[22:45] <hipitihop> mnaines: so my ext3 will be upgraded from existing as part of the upgrade ?
[22:45] <carresmd> Loafers, look for a xchat folder using 'find ~ | grep -i xchat' and remove it :-)
[22:45] <jad> mnaines: No you don't
[22:45] <jad> I upgrded and I have grub and ext3
[22:45] <mage__> hipitihop: not automatically
[22:45] <Sensiva> !resolution
[22:45] <c_korn> hello, I have the problem that the iwlagn proccess causes high cpu usage: http://www.ubuntu-pics.de/bild/29031/screenshot_003_kxcpvR.png
[22:45] <jonathan__> just installed 9.10.  I have a Nvidia geforce 8400 GS, Ubuntu isn't popping up saying that i need to use the proprietary driver.  anybody know how to manually force a check on the hardware?
[22:45] <mage__> hipitihop: its not automatic due to risk of screwing up
[22:45] <mnaines> jad: I did a clean install, which I recommend over an upgrade
[22:45] <hipitihop> mage__: is it an option during upgrade ?
[22:45] <jad> mnaines: Good for you :)
[22:46] <blah569> Tohuw:  Thanks!  However, I attemped to join #c, but it says that I'm banned without even entering the room (would be my first time joining the room on Freenode)
[22:46] <yofel> jonathan__: did you refresh your package cache?
[22:46] <hipitihop> mage__: makes sense in regards to possibility of screw up
[22:46] <jonathan__> yofel: yes
[22:46] <tj83__> does #ubuntu+1 normally close between releases? when does talks about Lucid begin for the community? ikonia do you know?
[22:46] <jad> mnaines: did it encrypt the volume as ell?
[22:46] <francis_> hola
[22:46] <snellcode> jad: upgrade will be conservative and not upgrade grub or ext
[22:46] <jad> tj83__: after UDS
[22:46] <francis_> que tal
[22:46] <matrix_> jad: iam thinking to downgrade to 8.4 this 9.10 really is annoying sorry little bitch
[22:46] <fenixk19> my ubuntu got broken after update. it fails on every command with saying, that libglib lacks g_array_ref object
[22:46] <jad> matrix_: You mean 9.04
[22:46] <mnaines> jad, yes, it encrypted the home directory and I had the option to have my password automatically decrypt it
[22:46] <francis_> viva ubuntu
[22:46] <DarkKnightCZ> muy bien, y tu?
[22:46] <tj83__> jad, can you word out UDS plz?
[22:46] <francis_> hola
[22:46] <Mike_lifeguard> matrix_: what's the problem with it?
[22:47] <jad> mnaines: how do you mount the drive outside of the kernel ?
[22:47] <jad> !uds
[22:47] <francis_> acabo de descubrir esto ahora mismo
[22:47] <oorah> anyone else have the brightness flickering problem?
[22:47] <leaf-sheep> tj83__: As soon as there are a Lucid release, they'll open up.
[22:47] <francis_> es una pasada
[22:47] <carresmd> ikonia, cleaning up? ^^
[22:47] <matrix_> mike_lifeguard: i dont get my screen resoultion i can not install my graphic driver
[22:47] <jad> tj83__: ^^^^
[22:47] <hajmola> whats the best way to bind a program to a keyboard shortcut
[22:47] <mnaines> jad: I do not know.  Sorry.
[22:47] <Mike_lifeguard> matrix_: intel chipset?
[22:47] <DarkKnightCZ> francis_: habla ingles, gracias
[22:47] <tj83__> ty
[22:47] <yofel> jonathan__: does manually opening jockey show something?
[22:47] <jad> Mike_lifeguard: yup
[22:47] <matrix_> mike_lifeguard: YES
[22:47] <MrGoose> why do all my flash drives mount read-only?
[22:47] <francis_> perdon no hay un canal en espanol?
[22:48] <MrGoose> automount that is
[22:48] <yofel> !es | francis_
[22:48] <jibadeeha> anyone here having problems with ubuntu one ... reporting the capabilities of the client do not match the server
[22:48] <Tohuw> blah569: is your name registered with NickServ?
[22:48] <francis_> thank you
[22:48] <DarkKnightCZ> francis_: no, hay un canal de ingles
[22:48] <offspring> right, so i installed pysdm and all went well, now, how do i find my partition?
[22:48] <jonathan__> yofel: if by jockey you mean the hardware drivers box, then no it does not list any hardware there
[22:48] <blah569> Tohuw:  This name is
[22:48] <matrix_> I WILL RE-INSTALL 8.4
[22:48] <Tohuw> jibadeeha: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[22:48] <yofel> hm...
[22:48] <DarkKnightCZ> francis_:try #ubuntu-es
[22:48] <blah569> not the "timblah" name, but I tried joining on both
[22:48] <mathepic> when I try to upgrade Ubuntu 9.4 to 9.10, it asks me to insert a CD
[22:48] <matrix_> it should really be a warning if you upgrade to 9.10
[22:48] <jibadeeha> Tohuw, i have 9.10 installed and have done an update
[22:48] <mnaines> mathepic: I would recommend doing a clean install of 9.10
[22:49] <DarkKnightCZ> mathepic: do you have cable connected to pc:
[22:49] <matrix_> 9.10 sucks
[22:49] <jad> mathepic: remove the apt-cd line
[22:49] <jibadeeha> i wonder if it is an existing setting in my home directory that is causing it
[22:49] <jad> matrix_: for you
[22:49] <Tohuw> blah569: ask NickServ if you're identified for this session: /query NickServ identify whatever-your-password-is
[22:49] <Ted1> one or more mounts listed in /etc/fstab cannot be yet be mounted ?
[22:49] <mathepic> I'm not doing this from terminal
[22:49] <dansushi> hey.. just curious, why does my kubuntu install CD first mention Debian with is boots from CD from the BIOS?
[22:49] <mathepic> Why should I do a clean install instead of updating to 9.10?
[22:49] <jonathan__> yofel:  It does list the card while in the live cd, lspci confirms that it is seening the video card correctly
[22:49] <DarkKnightCZ> is there some guy interested in apache? :) (PM ME)
[22:49] <jad> dansushi: it's debian's
[22:49] <dansushi> jad: what is debian's?
[22:50] <carresmd> Loafers, did it work out yet?
[22:50] <Tohuw> jibadeeha: how long ago? ubuntuone was updated late last night
[22:50] <jad> dansushi: The loader
[22:50] <yofel> jonathan__: not sure what the cause is then, but you could use synaptic to manually install the nvidia-glx-185 package
[22:50] <hajmola> mathepic, clean installs are just that... clean. If you upgrade, random pproblems you have tend to migrate
[22:50] <dansushi> ah, i see. ok
[22:50] <mathepic> okay
[22:50] <mathepic> I guess I'll do that
[22:50] <mgv2> why xchat for win costs mony?
[22:50] <mnaines> mathepic: To avoid any complications.  I have been in here for a couple hours, and it seems like there are many complications from upgrading from 9.04 to 9.10, so I recommend a clean install of 9.10
[22:50] <fenixk19> my ubuntu got broken after update. it fails on every command with saying, that libglib lacks g_array_ref object
[22:50] <jibadeeha> Tohuw, i downloaded and installed 9.10 about 2 hours ago
[22:50] <Tohuw> !anyone | DarkKnightCZ
[22:50] <Raiders32> hi I'm trying to upgrade from jaunty to karmic.  I keep getting message box that says: "Could not download release notes. Please chech your internet connection".
[22:50] <Loafers> carresmd, No it did not work and i tried the other method too...
[22:50] <Raiders32> Any advice?
[22:50] <hajmola> clean installs are always recommended
[22:50] <Xgates> carresmd: ok I'll check it out later...
[22:50] <Tohuw> jibadeeha: ah. I am not sure then. Seems to work for me, but I haven't toyed with it much, sorry
[22:50] <Loafers> carresmd, I foudn the config file but i don't know which option it is to turn on
[22:50] <offspring> jad: i installed Pysdm to use the files from my other partition, it all went smooth but the question is, how do i find my partition to mount it?
[22:50] <Yos> I'm connected to the internet now but the network status shows that I am not connected and I cannot browse the internet
[22:50] <knxvilla> Raiders32: Tried another server/host?
[22:51] <jibadeeha> Tohuw, i will delete .config/ubuntuone and see if that works
[22:51] <DarkKnightCZ> !anyone | DarkKnightCZ
[22:51] <Tohuw> Raiders32: wait 30 minutes and try again, or try another server
[22:51] <n16h7f0x> i've just installed 9.10 but when i try to play youtube videos sound doesn't work
[22:51] <carresmd> mgv2, look at the FAQ
[22:51] <aurolac> how many msi wind users are in the house ?
[22:51] <n16h7f0x> every other appllication works
[22:51] <nixiepixel> Oh noes! I deleted partitions without removing Grub and then installed Koala .. now I have a Grub error 17... halllp! ='( ?
[22:51] <n16h7f0x> please adivce
[22:51] <hajmola> n16h7f0x, you have to install the flash plugin
[22:51] <n16h7f0x> i did
[22:51] <n16h7f0x> video plays
[22:51] <FloodBot1> n16h7f0x: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:51] <DarkKnightCZ> IS here someone insterested in apache? i have error with vserv (PM ME)
[22:51] <n16h7f0x> sound is off
[22:51] <tj83__> jad, do we know when the first alpha release will be?
[22:51] <airforceguy> how do u upgrade from 9.10 beta to offical 9.10??? please advise
[22:51] <Tohuw> !enter | n16h7f0x
[22:51] <joaopinto> DarkKnightCZ, we don't provide support on PM, keep it on the channel and dont repeat yourself
[22:52] <joaopinto> !final | airforceguy
[22:52] <hajmola> n16h7f0x, do you mean the sound is muted or it's not synched with the video?
[22:52] <jad> tj83__: after UDS
[22:52] <n16h7f0x> hajmola, muted nothing  and it's at max
[22:52] <Tohuw> ooh, didn't know about that command, joaopinto. :)
[22:52] <Tohuw> joaopinto: (!final, I mean)
[22:52] <Ted1> i get a general error mounting file systems after upgrad\ing from 9.04 to 9.10... any ideas?
[22:52] <tj83__> jad, when is that?
[22:52] <yofel> !schedule | tj83__
[22:52] <airforceguy> joaopinto: thanks will do
[22:52] <not_recognized> i am new to ubuntu and have a wireless g usb adapter TP-LINK Model: TL-WN422G  (Ver 2.1). the adapter is not recognized. if i do iwconfig my adapter is NOT listed. please, help!
[22:52] <hajmola> n16h7f0x, but playing an mp3 or something locally works?
[22:52] <not_recognized> i am running ubuntu 9.04
[22:52] <jad> !uds > tj83__
[22:53] <not_recognized> http://pastebin.ca/1648501
[22:53] <n16h7f0x> hajmola, yes i tried also internet radio and works perfect
[22:53] <yofel> tj83__: meh, what I wanted was: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidReleaseSchedule
[22:53] <jad> yofel: :-)
[22:53] <joaopinto> not_recognized, better search on google if that model is supported by Linux at all
[22:53] <DarkKnightCZ> i have error in setting virtual host (subdomain), it is redirecting to default directory, in /etc/apache2/sites-available/default is http://pastebin.com/m6e4496a2
[22:53] <hajmola> n16h7f0x, then i'm not sure, sounds like a flash problem...
[22:53] <JasperJones> I am trying to install 9.10 on an old windows machine (and wipe the old hard drive). When I get to step 4/7, prepare partitions, none of the buttons are available. I cannot move forward. Is there something I can do?
[22:53] <carresmd> mgv2, http://xchatdata.net/Using/BuildLineup
[22:54] <n16h7f0x> hajmola, which should i install flashplugin-nonfree?
[22:54] <mrbrdo> it seems X server is ignoring my /etc/X11/xorg.conf ??
[22:54] <Loafers> Why don't favicons appear on the new firefox?  After 2 or 3 clicks they always appear, but they still havn't changed after 999+ clicks
[22:54] <Yos> I am connected to the internet but it doesn't show on my network status and I cannot browse with FF, please help
[22:54] <hajmola> n16h7f0x, yeah that's the one. Looks like theres a bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-lib/+bug/396558
[22:54] <daleharvey> this sucks, I now have no machine to do work
[22:54] <joaopinto> DarkKnightCZ, you are missing a NameVirtualHost directly, and you really should read a vhost setup tutorial
[22:55] <not_recognized> joaopinto, i did but got no definite answer
[22:55] <Loafers> Why is the Windows Button no longer enabled for Ubuntu?  I used to use it to minimize all windows now I can set it as a hotkey......
[22:55] <jad> mrbrdo: The idea is that Xorg Configs should all be GUI configs
[22:55] <will1> I upgraded my monitor to a 20" HP2009m with 1600x900 res and now it wont boot. I even tried booting with cd and ended up with the same issue . any suggestions
[22:55] <n16h7f0x> hajmola, let me check thx
[22:55] <carresmd> Loafers, can you paste the config file to http://paste.ubuntu.com?
[22:55] <mrbrdo> jad: what? i need to configure my touchscreen xorg driver.. how can i do that?
[22:55] <carresmd> Loafers, and let me know what you want to change?
[22:55] <joaopinto> will1, try removing "splash" from the kernel options
[22:55] <oorah> the brightness for karmic is broken on my system. if i decide to try it out again once a week will i have to install updates or do the dowloads have the updates already?
[22:56] <jad> mrbrdo: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg plow
[22:56] <jad> mrbrdo: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -plow
[22:56] <Rods_Tiger> Just to let everyone know, don't bother downloading UNR 9.10 - it simply doesn't work properly - you'll get a frozen netbook every time you open the lid, everything you were doing will be lost, and you'll have to remove to battery to use your netbook again.
[22:56] <fenixk19> my ubuntu got broken after update. it fails on every command with saying, that libglib lacks g_array_ref object
[22:56] <hajmola> anyone know the easiest way to assign a keyboard shortcut to a program?
[22:56] <joaopinto> oorah, you will need to get whatever updates are released during next week
[22:56] <mrbrdo> jad: what did that do?
[22:56] <jad> mrbrdo: should redo your config based on your current hardware
[22:56] <tj83__> yofel, the !schedule info url http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases redirects to http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatIsubuntu/releases which is really outdated. dunno who would be the one to look into that.
[22:57] <bsanders> Rods_Tiger: thats interesting.  I've been using the UNR 9.10 RC, and it works just fine here
[22:57] <mrbrdo> jad: it doesn't change the config at all
[22:57] <DarkKnightCZ> joaopinto: added, not working
[22:57] <Loafers> carresmd, sure http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/304634/  I'm trying to minimize xchat when I close the application.  But instead it quits the application.
[22:57] <Rods_Tiger> bsanders: what have you done to it that's different to me?
[22:58] <bsanders> nothing... installed from USB
[22:58] <Loafers> carresmd, nvm I think i figured it out.  someone responded to my post in #xchat thansk for your help!
[22:58] <jad> tj83__: update it then
[22:58] <bsanders> Rods_Tiger: whats your laptop make/model?
[22:58] <Loafers> carresmd, it supposedly is gui_tray_flags = 0
[22:58] <Mike_lifeguard> Loafers: There is always #xchat :)
[22:58] <xtsuname> is there a way to completely remove a driver installed from nvidia.com?
[22:58] <Rods_Tiger> bsanders: same here - it simply doesn't work as a usable netbook. It's an Acer Aspire One.
[22:58] <carresmd> Loafers, yeah it is
[22:58] <daleharvey> I can get my ubuntu install to load into recovery mode, its a fresh install but the gui keeps freezing, as does the install process
[22:58] <dalton2345> hi everyone, how is karmic/
[22:58] <carresmd> Loafers, set it to 1
[22:58] <Loafers> carresmd, thanks :)
[22:59] <bsanders> so is mine... Aspire One, d250, I believe
[22:59] <TwoD> I need tips on what to not backup in /etc or $HOME, such as caches, temp files or other things which are just pointless to have.
[22:59] <xtsuname> is there a way to completely remove the driver installed from nvidia.com?
[22:59] <daleharvey> is there anything I can do to make it check all the packages and make sure they are complete
[22:59] <mnaines> dalton2345: I don't notice any major difference between Karmic and Jaunty
[22:59] <Brenden`> what package do i need to have Java in FireFox?
[22:59] <Guest87883> Is it normal to have almost all my ram being used? I have  "3962" MB of ram and 3933MB is in use. Why is this?
[22:59] <mrbrdo> red: it doesn't change or create xorg.conf.. and anything i write in xorg.conf just gets ignored it seems
[22:59] <yofel> xtsuname: not sure, you could ask in #nvidia
[22:59] <Rods_Tiger> bsanders: mine's just an Acer Aspire One
[22:59] <dalton2345> mnaines: not even speed?
[22:59] <carresmd> Guest87883, caching?
[22:59] <xtsuname> will do, thx
[22:59] <mnaines> dalton2345: Hard for me to judge that on a quad-core machine
[22:59] <ctmjr> xtsuname: it comes with an unistall script
[22:59] <Black_Phantom> I can't get ubuntu 9.10 cd booting !
[22:59] <Guest87883> How do I check carres?
[22:59] <Brenden`> what package do i need to have Java in FireFox?
[23:00] <carresmd> Guest87883, are you using the 'free' command?
[23:00] <bsanders> Rods_Tiger: whats the model number (it says in fine print on the bottom of the laptop)?  how old is it?
[23:00] <Guest87883> yes carres
[23:00] <Guest87883> free -m
[23:00] <IdleOne> Brenden`: sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin
[23:00] <Ziber> -rw-r-Sr-- 1 ziber ziber 754K 2009-10-27 19:49 drawing1.jpg <-- Whats the "S"?
[23:00] <Brenden`> ok
[23:00] <jad> dalton2345: Horrible for me ;)
[23:00] <Brenden`> thank you
[23:00] <Black_Phantom> while other cds ( including other ubuntu versions ) cds boots successfully on my Toshiba Satellite
[23:00] <hajmola> Black_Phantom, try downloading and burning it again
[23:00] <xtsuname> ctmjr, is it in the installation file?
[23:00] <dalton2345> why jad
[23:01] <h4f> how do I install flash ? should I download from adobe ?
[23:01] <Black_Phantom> hajmola I tried booting it on my other pc, it worked
[23:01] <jad> TwoD: in /etc everything is useful I can't tell you what's rubbish in $HOME
[23:01] <carresmd> Guest87883, use System > Administration > System Monitor to see the actual usage
[23:01] <bsanders> Rods_Tiger: have you checked the md5sum of the iso you downloaded?
[23:01] <Guest87883> Ah, I see.
[23:01] <Loafers> !flash > h4f
[23:01] <Rods_Tiger> bsanders: S/N LUS020AO89828187382500
[23:01] <Black_Phantom> hajmola but on my Toshiba Satellite it didn't
[23:01] <mrbrdo> jad: it doesn't change or create xorg.conf.. and anything i write in xorg.conf just gets ignored it seems
[23:01] <dalton2345> i'm gonna install it to a friend tomorrow, hopes he likes it, first time linux user hehe
[23:01] <jad> mrbrdo: Bleah I hate X
[23:01] <hajmola> Black_Phantom, there's a way to do a "verbose" boot... I can't remember how but that might lead you to the problem
[23:01] <jad> dalton2345: ok did you get his usage and hardware specs?
[23:01] <mnaines> dalton, hopefully he will like it.
[23:01] <bsanders> Rods_Tiger: yeah, right above the s/n (at least on mine) it says "Aspire one D250-1389"
[23:02] <h4f> Loafers:  same procedure for 9.10  &
[23:02] <h4f> ?
[23:02] <stapel> How do I know whether my pc is capable of running 64 bit version?
[23:02] <Rods_Tiger> bsanders: MFG. DATE: 0807 AOA 110 - Aw
[23:02] <Black_Phantom> hajmola what does verbose boot actually means ?
[23:02] <dalton2345> 2gb and just the net, watching vids, listening music etc
[23:02] <Xgates> carresmd: pm ok?
[23:02] <mrbrdo> jad: what am i supposed to do?
[23:02] <carresmd> Xgates, sure
[23:02] <Loafers> h4f, yup.
[23:02] <judson_> can i upgrade to 9.10 nbr   through update manager?
[23:02] <Black_Phantom> hajmola I want to install ubuntu 9.10, but I can't boot the cd
[23:02] <hajmola> Black_Phantom, it doesn't hide all the jargon from you. But it might tell you where there's a problem
[23:02] <qq99> is there a torrent for 64bit up somewhere?
[23:02] <jad> mrbrdo: ask in #xorg ?
[23:02] <qq99> my mirror is sooo slow
[23:02] <Flannel> qq99: Alternate or desktop?
[23:02] <Rods_Tiger> bsanders: SNID: 82810015225
[23:03] <qq99> 64bit desktop
[23:03] <ctmjr> xtsuname: sudo nvidia-uninstall is all you need if i remember right if not let me know been awhile since i had to use it
[23:03] <TwoD> jad: figured that much about /etc. I'm skipping things like $HOME/.cache,
[23:03] <Alan> To create a USB startup disk for a distro, do i need an installation of that distro to do it from?
[23:03] <resno1> what to do you issue to make ubuntu upgrade via termianl?
[23:03] <armence> I'm on the phone with a friend who is trying to connect using an ethernet connection, she can't get connected though... Can somebody help out?
[23:03] <aj_444> I'm running the update manager. Its been stuck on fetching file 1325 of 1325 for 20 minutes. Is this normal? It isn't displaying time left etc.
[23:03] <stapel> qq99: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors#bt
[23:03] <Alan> i.e. can i create a Karmic USB installer from within Jaunty?
[23:03] <bsanders> Rods_Tiger: USB flash drive or USB CD-ROM?
[23:03] <jad> TwoD: And rebuild them when you restore?
[23:03] <Flannel> qq99: http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.10/ubuntu-9.10-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent (from http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.10/)
[23:03] <xtsuname> ctmjr, yeah it seems to have work, thx
[23:03]  * Marfi cracks knuckles for his once-every-6-month help time
[23:04] <Marfi> Again, wonderful job devs...installing it to a VM right now. =)
[23:04] <hajmola> Black_Phantom, i'm not too familiar with toshibas... maybe try downloading the alternate install cd? That one doesn't boot to a graphical environment but is still relatively easy too use
[23:04] <TwoD> jad: yes.
[23:04] <yofel> Alan: sure, just use usb-creator with the karmic iso
[23:04] <jad> TwoD: cool
[23:04] <hajmola> Black_Phantom, sorry I can't help you out any more than that
[23:04] <Rods_Tiger> bsanders: both actually - couldn't get the usb drive working at first from the MacBook, then I could
[23:04] <Loafers> I installed pidgin and I closed it, where did the tray icon go!?!?
[23:04] <johnny_> hi, ive installed gt gnutella but it say is and old version
[23:04] <recant_this2> judson, 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'
[23:04] <Marfi> blah569: What is the problem
[23:04] <qq99> thanks guys
[23:04] <johnny_> gtk
[23:04] <Ziber> -rw-r-Sr-- 1 ziber ziber 754K 2009-10-27 19:49 drawing1.jpg <-- Whats the "S"?
[23:04] <judson_> can u pdate to  9.10 netbook remix through   update manager?
[23:04] <johnny_> any idea?
[23:04] <Black_Phantom> hajmola thanks
[23:04] <Marfi> Loafers: You may have to add the task manager
[23:04] <progre55> hi all! I've just upgraded. pusleaudio was causing problems with skype, so I removed it.. but now my volumecontrol doesnt work.. when I try to open "volume control" it says "waiting for sound system to respond" and waits forever. any suggestions, please?
[23:04] <mnaines> Flannel, are any of the Karmic developers in here?
[23:04] <ctmjr> xtsuname: your welcome remember to reboot to kill all remaining instances of it
[23:04] <Alan> yofel: hmm, it breaks all over the damn place in a virtual machine... maybe i'll have to try it on the metal :(
[23:04] <Marfi> Loafers: You may have closed it
[23:05] <TwoD> jad: well, some of it at least, I don't do automated restores from that backup.
[23:05] <MxW> Hi, I've got a little problem with the new Nvidia install, I get a black screen (yes I googled :) ) , the thing is that if I use the Option "ConnectedMonitor" "DFP" , I get a screen split in 6, when I take it off I have a black screen with an error in the Xorg.0.log that no displays were found
[23:05] <Black_Phantom> I can't boot my ubuntu 9.10 on my Toshiba Satellite laptop, any suggestions ?
[23:05] <Black_Phantom> ubuntu 9.10 cd
[23:05] <xtsuname> ctmjr, I'm reinstalling the Ubuntu-ver, is it fine if I just do that then reboot?
[23:05] <Flannel> mnaines: Probably, but your best bet of communication is launchpad for bugs
[23:05] <stapel> How do I know whether my pc is capable of running 64 bit version?
[23:05] <Mike_lifeguard> Black_Phantom: any error messages?
[23:05] <Marfi> MxW: Take a look at your xorg.conf, and make sure there is nothing funky there
[23:05] <TecnoBrat> MxW: what version of nvidia-glx?
[23:05] <Loafers> Marfi, I don't think so.  My xchat tray icon is showing up fine.... Pidgin is nowhere to be seen
[23:05] <Marfi> stapel: If it's a 64 bit processor
[23:05] <MxW> TecnoBrat: 190.42
[23:05] <Marfi> Loafers: Then it may have closed
[23:05] <Loafers> Marfi, but i know its running because my username has the pidgin status
[23:05] <n16h7f0x> hajmola, solved it with alsamixer (pcm was muted)
[23:05] <FiReSTaRT> has anyone been having trouble installing flashplugin-nonfree through apt-get or synaptic?
[23:05] <mnaines> Flannel: I do not intend to report a bug.  I simply wanted to thank them for working out all the bugs before releasing Karmic
[23:05] <Marfi> Loafers: Or you could have sent it to another work space
[23:05] <Mike_lifeguard> Marfi: They want to know how to tell if their processor is 64bit
[23:05] <MxW> Marfi: I made the xorg.conf myself
[23:06] <hajmola> n16h7f0x, nice!
[23:06] <Black_Phantom> Mike_lifeguard, all other cds boots successfully except ubuntu 9.10. A message from Intel Boot Agent suddenly comes up and says 'Media failure, check cable'
[23:06] <ctmjr> xtsuname: thats up to you if it was me i would at least log out then log back in
[23:06] <Flynsarmy> Anyone else experiencing issues with the sounds in pidgin in karmic? the message received plays super fast
[23:06] <Mike_lifeguard> FiReSTaRT: You should probably just state what problem you are having.
[23:06] <stapel> Marfi; How do I know that?
[23:06] <n16h7f0x> hajmola, thank you
[23:06] <TecnoBrat> MxW: clearly not the one in the repo then? :)
[23:06] <hajmola> n16h7f0x, anytime
[23:06] <|gs3irc|> i just updated to 9.10 from 9.04, and am having trouble figuring out how to use the new network manager interface dealy. can someone help me?
[23:06] <Marfi> MxW: Then you may have missed something. I know with the last few versions of Ubuntu, they got a way from using an xorg.conf, or a minimal one
[23:06] <MxW> TecnoBrat: the one from the ppa...
[23:06] <xtsuname> ctmjr, oh well, I'll find out and see in a few sec
[23:06] <Mike_lifeguard> Black_Phantom: Can you boot from HDD?
[23:06] <dochood> stapel: do you know your processor model number>
[23:06] <Black_Phantom> Mike_lifeguard, I tried booting the same cd on my desktop it worked, but on my Toshiba Satellite id didn't
[23:06] <Mike_lifeguard> Black_Phantom: or other media?
[23:06] <johnny_> hi, ive installed gt gnutella but it say is and old version, any idea?
[23:06] <TecnoBrat> MxW: hmmm
[23:06] <Marfi> stapel: Do you not have the sticker on the case?
[23:06] <johnny_> hi, ive installed gtk gnutella but it say is and old version, any idea?
[23:06] <Black_Phantom> Mike_lifeguard, yes I can
[23:06] <Marfi> johnny_: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[23:06] <dajhorn> Marfi: Look at the /proc/cpuinfo file and do a web search for the CPU name.
[23:07] <FiReSTaRT> Mike_lifeguard: it won't install, comes out with The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[23:07] <FiReSTaRT>   flashplugin-nonfree: Depends: flashplugin-installer but it is not going to be installed
[23:07] <FiReSTaRT> E: Broken packages
[23:07] <MxW> Marfi: TecnoBrat , well the thing is that it's not Ubuntu related, cause I tried an other distribution, same problem :)
[23:07] <Black_Phantom> Mike_lifeguard, but only the ubuntu 9.10 cd I cant boot it, and I have burnt it two times, and checked the md5sum of the downloaded data
[23:07] <mnaines> Marfi: I am recommending a clean install.
[23:07] <Marfi> johnny_: I would recommend not though, servers are kinda laggy atm. =)
[23:07] <x0rcist> Nixie?
[23:07] <TecnoBrat> MxW: you could try installing nvidia-glx-185 from the official repo, if thet fixes the issue, then you might need to contact the creator of the driver in the ppa ... just a thought
[23:07] <FiReSTaRT> Mike_lifeguard: basically apt hasn't been configured for it?
[23:07] <stapel> Marfi: Intel Core 2 duo
[23:07] <Mike_lifeguard> Black_Phantom: So, this is not anything to do with ubuntu, but it is actually the firmware giving you an error
[23:07] <johnny_> ok thanks marfi, yea i think is bcos i have old libraries
[23:07] <xtsuname> ctmjr, it seems to work fine. Thank you very much for your help
[23:07] <Marfi> MxW: What video card?
[23:07] <MxW> TecnoBrat: the card I have is a GT 230M only supported from 190.42
[23:07] <dochood> stapel: how old is it?  when did you get it?  do you happen to know the model number of the CPU?
[23:07] <ctmjr> xtsuname: your welcome
[23:08] <TecnoBrat> MxW: well ... then that idea is out isn't it ... hmm
[23:08] <Mike_lifeguard> FiReSTaRT: Is apt-get finding the package at all? If not, make sure you have the right repositories enabled.
[23:08] <Marfi> MxW: Did you enable the card from the restricted driver manager?
[23:08] <MxW> Well it is enabled :)
[23:08] <yofel> dochood, stapel: all core2 duo cpus are 64 bit
[23:08] <Marfi> MxW: glxgears. Do you see the gears / what is the FPS?
[23:08] <FiReSTaRT> Mike_lifeguard: it has been finding packages without any issues, i'm installing a whole bunch, but i'd like to have flash working sometime soon :P
[23:08] <xtsuname> is it a better idea to reinstall ubuntu to 9.10 or to upgrade?
[23:08] <Marfi> MxW: *glxgears from the terminal
[23:08] <Loafers> wow i'm very disappointed in karmic... I had such high expectations
[23:08] <dochood> yofel: I thought there were one or two really old ones that were 32 bit.  could be wrong
[23:08] <MxW> TecnoBrat: usually when I have that problem I use the DFP (cause of an EDID problem), and it works
[23:08] <Marfi> xtsuname: Best idea is to do a reinstall
[23:08] <jad> xtsuname: depends
[23:08] <ctmjr> FiReSTaRT: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[23:08] <hajmola> Loafers, why's that?
[23:08] <mnaines> xtsuname: It is better to do a clean install
[23:09] <Mike_lifeguard> FiReSTaRT: I meant "Did it find the specific package you're trying to install?"
[23:09] <MxW> Marfi: glxgears wont work from terminal
[23:09] <FiReSTaRT> ctmjr: and it throws out another unmet dependency and another and another
[23:09] <jad> Reinstall is normally a good idea unless you have a lot of settings that you want to preserver
[23:09] <aj_444> Loafers: I respectfully disagree.
[23:09] <Marfi> MxW: And you said you did the xorg.conf yourself?
[23:09] <xtsuname> it's taking more than 3hrs to upgrade it
[23:09] <jad> Loafers: Lower expectations ;) Computers suck
[23:09] <Loafers> hajmola, firefox is messed up, empathy blows, so i instaleld pidgin and they changed tray icon stuff
[23:09] <stapel> dochood: its a dell inspiron 530 e7200 core 2 duo
[23:09] <MxW> Marfi: yes
[23:09] <hajmola> xtsuname, that's because the servers are getting hammered right now
[23:09] <Marfi> MxW: You may want to have nvidia generate one for you, then edit it
[23:09] <Loafers> hajmola, also GDM is completely changed and boot loads are longer now
[23:09] <EntityReborn> well...
[23:09] <FiReSTaRT> Mike_lifeguard: yes it did find it, so it points me to the plugin installer, so i try installing the installer but it points me to another unmet dependency which pointed me to another and that's when i gave up and started installing other crap
[23:09] <|gs3irc|> i just updated to 9.10 from 9.04, and am having trouble figuring out how to use the new network manager interface dealy. can someone help me?
[23:09] <EntityReborn> Tohuw, I kinda got it working
[23:09] <mnaines> yofel: No, they aren't.  I have a core2 duo in my laptop but my laptop is only 32-bit
[23:09] <xtsuname> hajmola, ah, that makes sense
[23:09] <MxW> Marfi: the Nvidia generated gives the black screen too
[23:10] <Mike_lifeguard> xtsuname: You'll get better speeds downloading iso torrents
[23:10] <hajmola> Loafers, sorry to hear that, you should get on the forums, that's a better place to work out the bugs and inform people
[23:10] <flan_suse> I used UNetbootin to make a bootable USB out of the Xubuntu 9.10 alternative install ISO. The problem is, the installer will not continue when it tries to detect a CD-Rom drive. This doesn't make any sense, since I am trying to install it on a netbook. How do I get around this and force it to use the USB flash drive, since I don't have a CD-rom drive.
[23:10] <Marfi> |gs3irc|: Should be the same as before
[23:10] <aj_444> |gs3irc|: what's wrong with it?
[23:10] <TecnoBrat> MxW: using nvidia-xconfig?
[23:10] <joaopinto> mnaines, there are no 32bits only core2 duros
[23:10] <dochood> stapel: it is 64 bit
[23:10] <MxW> TecnoBrat: yes,
[23:10] <ctmjr> !flash | FiReSTaRT have you read this
[23:10] <xtsuname> Mike_lifeguard, yeah i know, I have downloaded the CD
[23:10] <EntityReborn> seems X doesn't want to let the mouse drag things past my internal LCD's limits, event tho the mouse itself can pass the limits
[23:10] <stapel> thanx
[23:10] <jad> Loafers: the tray icon ?
[23:10] <yofel> mnaines: really? didn't know that...
[23:10] <Marfi> flan_suse: Does it boot the CD at all?
[23:10] <EntityReborn> Tohuw, seems X doesn't want to let the mouse drag things past my internal LCD's limits, event tho the mouse itself can pass the limits
[23:10] <Marfi> MxW: What TecnoBrat said
[23:10] <Argos> hey is out yet
[23:10] <EntityReborn> Argos, yes
[23:10] <flan_suse> Marfi, it boots from the USB, yes.
[23:10] <dochood> stapel, np
[23:10] <MxW> TecnoBrat: it's a known EDID problem, but all the solutions I tried (known ones) don't work, so I thought someone had the same problem with the same card
[23:10] <Argos> any links pls
[23:10] <Tohuw> EntityReborn: are you using compiz?
[23:10] <mnaines> yofel: Mine is a 1.86GHz Intel Core2 Duo with Centrino Duo technology
[23:10] <EntityReborn> Argos, ubuntu.com
[23:11] <Marfi> flan_suse: And how far does it get? Just not detect the CD drive?
[23:11] <FiReSTaRT> thanks ctmjr, i hope this contains some karmic-related stuff as it used to be straight-forward in hardy/intrepid/jaunty
[23:11] <stapel> dochood; would you recommend using that rather than 32 bit?
[23:11] <Marfi> flan_suse: And does it kick back an error?
[23:11] <Argos> one way to repair windows is to install UBUNTU HEHE
[23:11] <Loafers> jad, pidgin doesn't show up on the tray area when i close it, but i know it's running because next to my username there is a green circle dot that's used in pidgin to display status
[23:11] <flan_suse> Marfi, after language/keyboard selection, it gives me an error about "no CD-rom drive found", but this is a netbook, and there never was a CD-rom drive.
[23:11] <|gs3irc|> well historically i've had issues with knetworkmanager, so i've used wicd for the last year or so. i don't know how to make the connection thingy connect to my wired network
[23:11] <EntityReborn> Tohuw, erm, I put the effects at hi, yeah
[23:11] <Marfi> Argos: Yup
[23:11] <zeeble> how do i get some adobe air apps to run? i installed adobe air, but then when i try to get the air app running, it doesnt start
[23:11] <xtsuname> is there a way to make grub realize that there is 2 ubuntu partition and to update menu.lst itself?
[23:11] <Tohuw> EntityReborn: turn them off and see what happens
[23:11] <EntityReborn> kk
[23:11] <jad> Loafers: Ok so what's the problem?
[23:11] <dioz_mio> !compiz
[23:11] <dochood> stapel: I would, yes.  There are a few things that don't run well yet on 64 bit, but I've been enjoying 64 bit for awhile... now, I would recommend waiting on 9.10 and use 9.04 for now, but some here may disagree.
[23:11] <dcorking> new website doesn't link obviously to release notes - where have they gone?  what are requirements for 9.10?
[23:11] <Marfi> flan_suse: Is there an option to boot it to ram? I know with Backtrack there is, not sure about 9.10
[23:11] <EntityReborn> heh, tat did it :)
[23:11] <EntityReborn> Tohuw,
[23:11] <EntityReborn> :)
[23:12] <Ted1> my 9.10 wont boot up,  I get    SWAP: waiting for UUID=949e92f7-a360=4de0-aa53-ee3fbe82cb49
[23:12] <Marfi> fale: There may be a workaround on the interwebs for it, too
[23:12] <Loafers> jad, how to open up pidgin again... it disappeared but i know it's running...
[23:12] <mnaines> dochood: I upgraded to 9.10 and so far have not encountered any problems.
[23:12] <|gs3irc|> Marfi, aj_444: well historically i've had issues with knetworkmanager, so i've used wicd for the last year or so. i don't know how to make the connection thingy connect to my wired network
[23:12] <aj_444> |gs3irc|: are you using Kubuntu?
[23:12] <devon> bye everyone!
[23:12] <flan_suse> Marfi, it is the alternate install disc, and it will not let me change any boot options.
[23:12] <PHANTOM> Mike_lifeguard sorry I got disconnected, I was saying then why every other cd can boot successfully ?
[23:12] <joaopinto> xtsuname, yes, run: sudo linux-boot-prober && sudo update-grub
[23:12] <angelus> hi .... my force quit applet seems to be malfunctioning ..... the box that says "Click on a window to force the application to quit. To Cancnel press <ESC>" .... is just sitting there and not doing anything ..... and i cant get it to go away
[23:12] <|gs3irc|> aj_444: yes i am, i just updated to 9.10
[23:12] <mnaines> Loafers, just tell it to run Pidgin again
[23:12] <Marfi> Loafers: open a terminal, ps aux | grep pidgin, get the psid, and kill it
[23:12] <jad> Loafers: try alt+F2 -> Pidgin
[23:12] <Mike_lifeguard> Ted1: Check that that is the right uuid. It probably isn't :)
[23:12] <flan_suse> Marfi, it just boots right away and begins the install.
[23:12] <FiReSTaRT> ctmjr: it says that the package is broken
[23:12] <xtsuname> thanx joaopinto
[23:12] <dochood> mnaines: I used the RC disk to do a clean install, and it messed up my Grub and my Windows 7!
[23:12] <Marfi> flan_suse: The alternate CD is made so you can change the boot options....
[23:12] <zeeble> are there any mozilla thunderbird version 3 beta .debs out there?
[23:12] <EntityReborn> Tohuw, know any tricks to get the desktops extended instead of mirrored?
[23:12] <aj_444> |gs3irc|: You might find more luck in #kubuntu
[23:12] <Mike_lifeguard> Black_Phantom: No clue, sorry.
[23:12] <dochood> mnaines: I hope they got the Grub2 issue worked out.
[23:12] <jamieleshaw> !torrents
[23:12] <stapel> dochood: can you give me an example of things that don't work on 64 bit? Also, will I be able to see the difference?
[23:12] <|gs3irc|> aj_444: ah, okay. thanks
[23:13] <mnaines> dochood: Did you unplug the disc that had Windows 7 on it before you installed?
[23:13] <Argos> got a question ive got windows os7 64 bit ..is ubuntu going to work
[23:13] <dochood> stapel: I think a few of the games, and Filezilla, for sure.
[23:13] <jad> stapel: closed source stuff doesn't work well
[23:13] <Marfi> stapel: Ubuntu 64 bit should run just fine
[23:13] <Argos> ok thx
[23:13] <Marfi> stapel: For the things that wont, you have lib32
[23:13] <jad>  Video card drivers and Flash most notably
[23:13] <Mike_lifeguard> dochood: What GRUB2 issue?
[23:13] <dochood> stapel: that's about it.
[23:13] <Marfi> Argos: Yup
[23:13] <ctmjr> FiReSTaRT: the only thing you can do i guess is get it from adobe
[23:13] <jad> It runs fine though
[23:13] <joaopinto> dochood, uh ? filezilla works fine on 64 bits
[23:13] <EntityReborn> Tohuw, may I PM you?
[23:13] <Loafers> Marfi, hwo do i kill it?  i got the process id so i typed xkill 2631
[23:13] <Tohuw> EntityReborn: now you know compiz is the problem there. Install compiz config settings manager and see if you can find a setting causing the constraint. and no, because I've only ever set extended desktops from nvidia-settings
[23:13] <flan_suse> Marfi, within a second of booting from the USB, the screen flickers and before I can do anything, it is asking for my language. What key should I hold down to pause this, or to be able to change some boot options?
[23:13] <Marfi> Loafers: Just do sudo kill 2631
[23:13] <Tohuw> !dualhead | EntityReborn
[23:13] <dochood> Mike_lifeguard: The grub.cfg file never got my partitions put into it.  I tried to do it manually, but it still wouldn't work.
[23:14] <FiReSTaRT> ctmjr: will do.. thanks :)
[23:14] <stapel> dochood: Do you know whether urbanTerror works?
[23:14] <Yos> Hi, I'm connected to the internet obviously but the network indicator doesn't show that and I can't browse the internet
[23:14] <dochood> stapel: can't say.
[23:14] <dioz_mio> what is the compiz manager name?
[23:14] <Marfi> flan_suse: Read that screen. Pick the language, then it will be f2 if I remember before you boot the CD
[23:14] <joaopinto> dochood, run: sudo os-prober, and check the output
[23:14] <dansushi> i'm trying to install ubuntu right now, and i seem to only be able to make 4 partitions. When I try to as a 5th, it says that it is unusuable. What is going on?
[23:14] <flan_suse> Marfi, okay, I will try that.
[23:14] <dochood> stapel: but I googled once and found a website that had a list of 64 bit games on linux.
[23:14] <TecnoBrat> MxW: this the ppa you are using? https://launchpad.net/~nvidia-vdpau/+archive/ppa
[23:14] <Black_Phantom> Does anybody knows why i can't boot my ubuntu 9.10 cd on my Toshiba Satellite laptop ?
[23:14] <Marfi> flan_suse: Or in your case, USB
[23:14] <flan_suse> Marfi, thank you.
[23:14] <Loafers> Marfi, thanks.
[23:14] <stapel> dochood: I'll google it. Thanx again for your help
[23:14] <FiReSTaRT> ctmjr: or i might just wait a bit.. got other stuff to install anyway
[23:14] <Marfi> Black_Phantom: Need more details than that. Video card? Specs? Age?
[23:14] <dochood> stapel: my pleasure
[23:14] <Jad_> hi, does anybody knows what apps use the cloud computing feature of ubuntu server?
[23:14] <joaopinto> Black_Phantom, what does it happen when you try to boot ?
[23:15] <erUSUL> dansushi: hard disk with msdos paritions tables can only hold 4 primary paritions
[23:15] <MxW> TecnoBrat: yes
[23:15] <Marfi> Black_Phantom: You may want to try the alternate CD
[23:15] <dioz_mio> sudo apt-get install csmm ??
[23:15] <aj_444> Has anybody successfully ran the update manager today?
[23:15] <Black_Phantom> Marfi, does it lack less features ?
[23:15] <xtsuname> aj_444, running it
[23:15] <Marfi> aj_444: I do my stuff through the terminal
[23:15] <SikEnCide> aj_444 i have a few times
[23:15] <stapel> marfi: thanx as well
[23:15] <Marfi> Black_Phantom: Nope, same thing. Just has more boot options
[23:15] <Marfi> stapel: Np
[23:15] <erUSUL> dansushi: you have to add a extended parition as fourth and add logical paritions within (up to 63 of them)
[23:15] <sun`> update manager is still giving an update for Beta Release!
[23:15] <aj_444> xtsuname: how long has it taken you?
[23:15] <ctmjr> FiReSTaRT: that might be a good idea you never know maybe they are fixing it
[23:15] <Marfi> Neeeext!
[23:15] <sun`> update-manager -d
[23:15] <Flynsarmy> Anyone else experiencing issues with the sounds in pidgin in karmic? the message received sound plays super fast. Happens the first time i try to play it in the default media player too
[23:16] <xtsuname> aj_444, I started it at around 2+
[23:16] <FiReSTaRT> ctmjr: that's what i figured and while i'm rebuilding my system i won't be watching any u2b vids anyway :)
[23:16] <MxW> TecnoBrat: well, gonna try my last chance, using custom EDID, harsh but at leat may work
[23:16] <xtsuname> aj_444, and now it's 7+
[23:16] <Argos> man this is so slow..how may people are on to this .
[23:16] <Black_Phantom> joaopinto, I can boot every other cd successfully except ubuntu 9.10, when I press boot from cd, Intel Boot Agent comes up and says 'media failure, check cable' the problem is from the cd since i can boot every other cd successfully ( including other ubuntu versions )
[23:16] <sun`> lol
[23:16] <sun`> You should have downloaded the iso.
[23:16] <Marfi> Argos: On the update? Thousands, if not tens of thousands
[23:16] <aj_444> xtsuname: Thats the time I started. This is taking forever. Its like stuck on fetching 1325 of 1325.
[23:17] <SikEnCide> Black_Phantom try burning it again on a slower speed like 4x
[23:17] <MxW> Black_Phantom: did you check the checksum before burning it?
[23:17] <yancho> thanks Tohuw  it did work .. however now i have a "worse" problem: http://queleimporta.com/en/finally-adobe-releases-native-64-bit-flash-10-for-linux/ <- i am following this tutorial to install adobe flash 10 on firefox 3.5 ubuntu 9.04 but i am still unable to have any flesh
[23:17] <jad> Black_Phantom: do a md5sum check on the ISO
[23:17] <Marfi> Argos: Best idea is to torrent it and not update for a week
[23:17] <Argos> wow 1 day to download no way..iam freaking cable ..should have in 30 minutes or less
[23:17] <rashed2020> Is updating really slow?
[23:17] <jad> Argos: Torrent it
[23:17] <joaopinto> Black_Phantom, have you checked the iso md5sum before burning ?
[23:17] <xtsuname> aj_444, ah that;s kinda bad.... mine is at the 974 of 1600+
[23:17] <Argos> ok torrent ok ..cool
[23:17] <Black_Phantom> SikEnCide, I tried booting the cd on my desktop it booted successfully but it didn't on my Toshiba Satellite
[23:17] <Black_Phantom> jad, yes I did its correct
[23:17] <Yos> 3 and a half hours to go on update manager
[23:17] <Black_Phantom> joaopinto, yes the downloaded data is 100%
[23:17] <Mike_lifeguard> Ted1: Don't be shy. I just don't remember what you're talking about...?
[23:17] <Pooky1> hi =)
[23:18] <mskut> is it just me or is empathy pretty much identical to pidgin?
[23:18] <Black_Phantom> and I have burned it twice
[23:18] <Tohuw> !flash | yancho have you tried this one
[23:18] <Black_Phantom> but still same problem
[23:18] <aj_444> xtsuname: I wish you luck.
[23:18] <jad> Black_Phantom: burn it slower then some CDs don'ttake kindly to fast burns
[23:18] <offspring> hello. i am could one of you seasoned veterans tell me how to find my windows partition and read it? i've been looking through a bunch of tutorials without any luck, thanks
[23:18] <joaopinto> Black_Phantom, that is very odd, ubuntu live cd is just a regular cd, your laptop should try to boot from it
[23:18] <daleharvey> if I have a fresh ubuntu install that is constantly freezing, and my installs constantly freeze, how can I go around debugging it
[23:18] <dochood> joaopinto: I ran os-prober, and it didn't give me good output at first.  The, I mounted my /sys dir in the chroot, and it worked.  It put in the output into grub.cfg, but I still couldn't get grub2 to work.  I think it gave Error 11, if I remember.
[23:18] <xtsuname> aj_444, thx
[23:18] <s1300045> does any one know how to build wireless ap with karmic
[23:18] <jad> daleharvey: Graphics driver would be my first bet
[23:18] <diofeher> i want to download the new version of ubuntu... but i wasn't found any server working :/
[23:18] <Black_Phantom> jad, the cd boots successfully on my desktop
[23:18] <yancho> no but i am thanks Tohuw  :)
[23:18] <mnaines> Well, everyone, I'm off for a while.  Dinner time.  Been great helping all of you.
[23:18] <Black_Phantom> joaopinto, thats why am insane right now
[23:18] <joaopinto> dochood, run sudo upgdate-grub after os-prober
[23:19] <xtsuname> joaopinto, sorry to disturb you again, I can't find linux-boot-prober, do I need to install something for it?
[23:19] <dochood> joaopinto: did that too... still no joy.
[23:19] <ubuntu> hi
[23:19] <Black_Phantom> I think I have to report a bug to the developers ?
[23:19] <jad> Black_Phantom: Welcome to computers some combination of the Cd How it was burnt and the firmware on the Cd drive just won't agree
[23:19] <Loafers> !bug | Black_Phantom
[23:19] <jad> Black_Phantom: Nothing they can do about that
[23:19] <joaopinto> xtsuname, did you upgrade, or a clean install ?
[23:19] <ale85> how do i upgrade from 9.10rc to 9.10 final release?
[23:19] <tphilosopher> Hey guys. I have a friend who wants to play a java based game on Linux. I'm just not sure how to run it. The command in the .bat file is "start java -Xmx512m -cp .;Theme Gui". Can anyone help me? Thanks.
[23:19] <joaopinto> !final | ale85
[23:19] <xtsuname> joaopinto, it's a clean install, on 2 partitions
[23:20] <joaopinto> xtsuname, sudo apt-get install os-prober
[23:20] <ale85> thx
[23:20] <dochood> got to drop off... thanks guys and gals
[23:20] <joaopinto> xtsuname, it's odd. os-prober should have been installed
[23:20] <Black_Phantom> Marfi, are you sure the alternative cd would work ?
[23:20] <joaopinto> xtsuname, have you used the regular desktop cd ?
[23:20] <jad> I had a laptop that with any store bought wire on a particular router wouldn't even get recognized unles the network card was dropped to 10mb/s half duplex transfer mode
[23:20] <s1300045> anyone know how to build wifi ap with karmic?
[23:20] <xtsuname> joaopinto, yeah, apparantly it's not, I'm installing it now...... or not.... it's not loading...
[23:20] <roffe> I just ran the update manager, and it had nothing to download :(
[23:21] <nitrofurano> @nixiepixel please let us know if is everything going fine at your grub fixing! :)
[23:21] <joaopinto> xtsuname, is it installing ?
[23:21] <TecnoBrat> woot, looks like ubuntuone released and update
[23:21] <TecnoBrat> which fixes the client
[23:21] <aj_444> roffe: sudo apt-get update
[23:21] <Daimonic> Hey, is there something reasonable why my /etc/rc.local has really no effect?
[23:21] <aj_444> roffe: then try running it
[23:21] <masule> Ubuntu One Client is complaining about a capability mismatch.
[23:21] <joaopinto> masule, known problem, being worked
[23:21] <thebwt> masule: they took ubuntu on down to work on it.
[23:21] <roffe> aj_444, thanks, I'm trying it now
[23:22] <Argos> ubuntu 9,10 (karmic koala) rc i386 is that the one?
[23:22] <masule> joaopinto: thebwt: Is it a bug with the server or is the client broken?
[23:22] <EntityReborn> :/ how does one install the restricted extras?
[23:22] <joaopinto> masule, no idea
[23:22] <offspring> How do I read my Winows partition? I've done as the tutorial told me, still cant find it anywhere
[23:22] <iceroot> EntityReborn: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[23:22] <thebwt> masule: server side I think, ubuntuone was deleting files without being told to do so. So they threw up a mismatch error while they work on it
[23:23] <Argos> ubuntu 9.10(karmic koala) rc i 386 is that one
[23:23] <MrWizeGuy1983> mysql fails to load, says error mysqld, i'm not sure why it's doing that
[23:23] <masule> thebwt: Deleting my precious documents without me telling it to do so?!?!?!??!?!?!??!?!?
[23:23] <yancho> Tohuw|Away,   i ran sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer -- Flash Plugin installed. BUT its still not showing anything
[23:23] <Mike_lifeguard> offspring: Is it mounted?
[23:23] <iceroot> Argos: that one for what?
[23:23] <dioz_mio> why cant i install ccsm?
[23:23] <joaopinto> Argos, is that one for what ?
[23:23] <dioz_mio> !ccsm
[23:23] <tphilosopher> Please guys. Can anyone translate "start java -Xmx512m -cp .;Theme Gui" into a Linux command?
[23:23] <EntityReborn> masule, you need to run update
[23:23] <xtsuname> joaopinto, it's now installed, however it found nothing, my HDD is parted to 3, 2 Ubuntu part and win 7
[23:23] <Yos> I worked all day to get my usb modem going on ubuntu...Now I am connected and chattting with you guys however, the network shows that there is no network and I can't browse the internet..anyone to help
[23:23] <joaopinto> MrWizeGuy1983, check your "dmesg"
[23:23] <masule> thebwt: This is exactly the kind of bullshit keeping me away from online storage.
[23:23] <EntityReborn> my client is running fine
[23:23] <Argos> is that that the release i found it on torrents
[23:23] <EntityReborn> masule, you need to run update
[23:23] <losha> thebwt: they must've gotten the code from apple'
[23:23] <masule> EntityReborn: Why, is there an updated client?
[23:23] <joaopinto> xtsuname, odd :\
[23:23] <EntityReborn> yes
[23:24] <firefly2442> besides the GUI, are there any big differences between stock Ubuntu and UNR?
[23:24] <iceroot> Argos: we dont know what you found
[23:24] <mage__> how do I write a cron task with upstart?
[23:24] <EntityReborn> masule yes
[23:24] <Ted1> I have upgraded my 9.04 to 9.10, but when I boot up, I get the following errors ----- one or more of the mounts listed in /etc/fstab cannot yet be mounted: (esc for recovery shell)   /: waiting for /dev/disk/by-uuid/2becea6bf-4576-451c-b778-bc0ffcb60212d /tmp: waiting for (null)    swap:waiting for UUID=949e92f7-a360-4de0-aa53-ee3fbe82cb49
[23:24] <masule> EntityReborn: Roger that.
[23:24] <Darkmoon> Gah, 9.10 FAIL, GRUB error 15
[23:24] <offspring> Mike_lifeguard: yes, or so it says when i go to System > Administrator > Storage Device Manager
[23:24] <MrWizeGuy1983>  * Starting MySQL database server mysqld                                 [fail]
[23:24] <MrWizeGuy1983> anyone know how to fix that problem?
[23:24] <jad> ok this is stupid
[23:24] <jad> I'm going to reinstall
[23:24] <Argos> ubuntu 9.10 rc desktop i386.iso
[23:24] <Jad_> is there an rdp app that comes with ubuntu?
[23:24] <joaopinto> MrWizeGuy1983, did you check the "dmesg" command output ?
[23:24] <Mike_lifeguard> offspring: So what happens when you open it in nautilus?
[23:24] <masule> Jad_: Yes.
[23:24] <iceroot> Argos: can you please speak in a full sentence?
[23:24] <xtsuname> joaopinto, I removed menu.lst and now all that shows up is the ones on that particular OS only
[23:24] <Mike_lifeguard> MrWizeGuy1983: Depends what the actual problem is
[23:25] <Jad_> masule, vnc?
[23:25] <iceroot> Argos: ask a normal question like the others. with your questions noone knows what you want
[23:25] <sathiya> can somebody help me in upgrade ?
[23:25] <masule> Jad_: Yes.
[23:25] <joaopinto> xtsuname, uh ? there is no menu.lst on grub2 :)
[23:25] <MrWizeGuy1983> joaopinto i'm not sure what id be looking for on the dmesg
[23:25] <Jad_> ok
[23:25] <Argos> hah u been partying i c lol
[23:25] <Loafers> !help | sathiya
[23:25] <iceroot> !upgrade | sathiya
[23:25] <offspring> Mike_lifeguard: i dont know what that is yet, i'm a newbie you see
[23:25] <sathiya> !help
[23:25] <joaopinto> MrWizeGuy1983, check for an error message related to mysql
[23:25] <nitrofurano> @joaopinto from getdeb?
[23:26] <Mike_lifeguard> offspring: Open the Places menu at the top left
[23:26] <firefly2442> anyone here been using ext4?  I'm wondering how stable it is...
[23:26] <masule> EntityReborn: WTF there is no client update.
[23:26] <Argos> ok the question is............
[23:26] <masule> EntityReborn: Is it in proposed?
[23:26] <joaopinto> MrWizeGuy1983, and respectfully, if you dont know what is dmesg, you shouldn't be running  a mysql server :)
[23:26] <Yos> Connected to internet but it isn't showing up in my network connections and I cannot browse...any help ?
[23:26] <joaopinto> nitrofurano, yup
[23:26] <sathiya> i need specific help like, i started upgrade and found it is very slow ..
[23:26] <Crippler> Pidgin not included in 9.10?
[23:26] <EntityReborn> masule, I had to update the repos
[23:26] <joaopinto> firefly2442, check the release notes, there is a serious bug reported about it with large files
[23:26] <sathiya> i need to increase bandwidth speed now ..
[23:26] <Loafers> Crippler, sadly no
[23:26] <Argos> i am download  ubuntu 9.10 rc desktop i386.iso is that the correct file?
[23:26] <nitrofurano> @firefly2442 i'm not that courageous - i think i'll keep ext3 for a long while
[23:26] <sathiya> howto do ?
[23:26] <iceroot> sathiya: its normal, because the repos are hardly used atm
[23:26] <erUSUL> Crippler: no; empathy
[23:26] <Argos> for a torrent site
[23:26] <iceroot> Argos: no
[23:26] <offspring> mike_lifeguard: it's not showing up there no
[23:26] <firefly2442> joaopinto: yeah, I noticed that, little nervous...
[23:27] <erUSUL> !empathy
[23:27] <iceroot> Argos: iso != torrent   and rc != final
[23:27] <ukkopekka> My rc.local-file is not executed at startup. Is there any usual reason why?
[23:27] <MrWizeGuy1983> joaopinto i'm not running a server, it's part of ubuntu required for some apps as well as servers
[23:27] <veritos> Why is the kdelibs 4.3.2 package called kdelibs5?
[23:27] <masule> EntityReborn: I'm using 1.0.2-0ubuntu1
[23:27] <iceroot> !download | Argos
[23:27] <joaopinto> MrWizeGuy1983, ah ok, but you will need to check the demsg output, and the mysql server logs
[23:27] <joaopinto> dmesg
[23:27] <EntityReborn> Masule, refresh your repos, under update
[23:27] <Ted1> I have upgraded my 9.04 to 9.10, but when I boot up, I get the following errors ----- one or more of the mounts listed in /etc/fstab cannot yet be mounted: (esc for recovery shell)   /: waiting for /dev/disk/by-uuid/2becea6bf-4576-451c-b778-bc0ffcb60212d /tmp: waiting for (null)    swap:waiting for UUID=949e92f7-a360-4de0-aa53-ee3fbe82cb49
[23:28] <masule> EntityReborn: Yeah, I've reloaded apt.
[23:28] <DanielRichman> Being a fan of the minimal installer/mini.iso I'd like to use that to install karmic. The links arn't up on the wiki (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD), but I'm guessing that http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/karmic/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/ is the right place. The date modified is showing 17th of October - are these images good to use to install karmic release now (ie. they arn't beta ima
[23:28] <DanielRichman> ges or anything)?
[23:28] <sathiya> do i have no otherway than waiting ?
[23:28] <Argos> so i need the final  not the rc
[23:28] <masule> EntityReborn: But there's still no updated version to install.
[23:28] <Mike_lifeguard> offspring: OK, where is the partition mounted?
[23:28] <EntityReborn> masule, hhm
[23:28] <EntityReborn> idk then
[23:28] <iceroot> DanielRichman: its the rc not the final
[23:28] <Pooky1> hi, i would like to know wich download method i should use, for speed and no corrupted files... shall i use Firefox for Direct Download or Transmission in Bittorrent ??
[23:28] <Crippler> anyone had problem with xorg file 9.10 creates a blank xorg.conf file?
[23:28] <EntityReborn> masule, but I AM connected to One
[23:28] <Argos> ok cool
[23:28] <iceroot> !final | DanielRichman
[23:29] <ubuntu> a simple question for an emergency situation please... 9.10 install... GRUB Error 15... LiveCD'd in, /boot/grub/menu.lst doesn't even exist
[23:29] <DanielRichman> iceroot, any idea where I might get the final netboot/mini.iso?
[23:29] <iceroot> Pooky1: does not matter, all are fine
[23:29] <ubuntu> is this my problem?
[23:29] <erUSUL> Pooky1: torrent is safer
[23:29] <Yos> I'm connected to the internet but it doesn't show on networks and I can't browse...any help ?
[23:29] <Mike_lifeguard> offspring: got disconnected... where is the partition mounted?
[23:29] <sathiya> does some experts can come a chat ?
[23:29] <iceroot> !download | DanielRichman
[23:29] <offspring> mike_lifeguard: mountpoint is /media/sda1 if that is what you mean
[23:29] <iceroot> !ask | sathiya
[23:29] <Argos> this is what iam downloading from a torrent site.....UBUNTU 9.10 (KARMIC KOALA) RC I386 is that correct
[23:29] <Mike_lifeguard> offspring: Yes. Open a terminal (do you know how?) and do cd /media
[23:29] <iceroot> Argos: .... are you trolling?
[23:29] <LjL> Argos: "RC"? no, it isn't.
[23:29] <aj_444> I was using Gparted Live and accidentally deleted the partition that held the GRUB boot loader.. therefore I cannot boot into any of my OS's. Help?
[23:29] <iceroot> Argos: is said rc is not the final
[23:29] <erUSUL> Argos: better dl the final version
[23:30] <iceroot> Argos: i also gave you the download location
[23:30] <sathiya> some time it utilizes fullbandwidth, but many times it occupies very less what to do ?
[23:30] <joaopinto> aj_444, just reinstall grub
[23:30] <MrWizeGuy1983> joaopinto it says this about mysql in the dmesg information, i'm not sure what it means http://pastebin.com/d1c9ff927
[23:30] <DanielRichman> iceroot, only desktop/server/alternate cds there - not minimal installation cd
[23:30] <Argos> where is it
[23:30] <iceroot> sathiya: wait
[23:30] <sathiya> ok
[23:30] <FiremanEd2> What is the alternate address to the keyserver other than keyserver.ubuntu.com?
[23:30] <LjL> Argos: you've been told a number of times where it is. please don't troll. thank you.
[23:30] <dcorking> aj_444, use a live boot disk to make sure everything else is ok
[23:30] <erUSUL> aj_444: you can restore windows bootloader ask in ##windows for directions
[23:30] <iceroot> DanielRichman: hm, thats not good, maybe they are comming later
[23:30] <ctmjr> !grub | ubuntu
[23:30] <tanath> anyone know how to get my user back in the login chooser?
[23:30] <offspring> mike_lifeguard: i do indeed, nothing happens when i do cd /media though
[23:30] <daleharvey> with a freshly broken install of karmic, I do apt-get update and get like 50 messages about "Could not resolve 'security.ubuntu.com'"
[23:30] <tanath> disappeared after an update
[23:31] <kh_pylon> I boot from the live CD but the installer doesn't find my hard drive.  I can use cfdisk to access it, so the kernel sees it.  how can I force the installer to use that drive?
[23:31] <daleharvey> with various different domains
[23:31] <nellmathew> why can't i choose vlc in software center? keeps closing when i double click or click download..
[23:31] <DanielRichman> iceroot, I'm not sure... the jaunty ones show 17th of April, corresponding to what the equivilant might be for 9.04; not sure
[23:31] <brunop> hi, I just tested the Karmic liveCD and Xorg cannot start, previously with Jaunty it only started with 'low resolution mode'... is definitely the Intel G43 not supported by ubuntu ?
[23:31] <daleharvey> is that normal?
[23:31] <aj_444> joaopinto: I cant boot into anything on the computer.
[23:31] <Mike_lifeguard> offspring: uhhhh, you don't even change directories? Any error messages?
[23:31] <iceroot> DanielRichman: ah moment, the netinstall is downloading the stuff (so the final)
[23:31] <joaopinto> MrWizeGuy1983, try: sudo service apparmor stop; sudo service mysqld start
[23:31] <iceroot> DanielRichman: so its ok, the content is on the repos not on the cd, there is only the installer
[23:31] <Mike_lifeguard> offspring: dinner now, maybe other can help you. I'll be back later ...
[23:31] <joaopinto> aj_444, boot from a cd, or from a usb disk
[23:31] <sathiya> am waiting !
[23:31] <DanielRichman> iceroot, indeed, unless some bugs came up with the installer during beta, but I guess not
[23:32] <tanath> daleharvey, security.ubuntu.com is up. it's just you
[23:32] <aj_444> joaopinto: mmk.
[23:32] <iceroot> DanielRichman: i dont think so too
[23:32] <DanielRichman> iceroot, ok, thanks
[23:32] <Yos> Is it just me or are the servers being slammed today :)
[23:32] <iceroot> Yos: slammed
[23:32] <sathiya> iceroot, am waiting for your reply.
[23:32] <RebelZero> Yos, it isn't you
[23:32] <joaopinto> !grub2 > xtsuname
[23:32] <Pooky1> ty for that, also, is there big improvement for a slow laptop with the new ext4 filesystem, and grub 2 ???
[23:32] <erUSUL> Yos: the later is more likely
[23:32] <daleharvey> well aparently im not online
[23:32] <iceroot> sathiya: today there was the karmic release so its normal that the repos are slow
[23:32] <mage__> Pooky1: boot loader wont effect the running os
[23:33] <sathiya> oh my bad luck ..
[23:33] <MrWizeGuy1983> joaopinto it did stop apparmor but it said unrecognized service on mysql
[23:33] <iceroot> sathiya: :(
[23:33] <sathiya> ok ... anyway let me see ..
[23:33] <Pooky1> oki, but im gonna reinstall everything cuz i read there was a new bootloader
[23:33] <joaopinto> MrWizeGuy1983, mysqld
[23:33] <ubuntu> GRUB 2 bloody fail, fail, fail,
[23:33] <daleharvey> how would I connect to a wireless network from the command line? I know the name of the network and theres no password
[23:33] <sathiya> ok one more question .
[23:33] <ubuntu> left me with Errorr 15
[23:33] <ubuntu> unbootable system
[23:33] <dcorking> the torrent swarm is fast and busy -  I think I'll raise my upload cap overnight :)
[23:33] <sathiya> will i be able to change them mirror when upgrade is going on ?
[23:33] <iceroot> daleharvey: iwconfig
[23:33] <sathiya> it is saying lock errorr.
[23:33] <Yos> I'm not hogging much bandwidth with this little usb modem of mine :)
[23:33] <MrWizeGuy1983>  * Unloading AppArmor profiles                                           [ OK ]
[23:33] <MrWizeGuy1983> $mysqld: unrecognized service
[23:33] <MrWizeGuy1983>    joaopinto that's what i got
[23:33] <sathiya> how to come out of it?
[23:33] <iceroot> sathiya: post the command you use
[23:34] <joaopinto> MrWizeGuy1983, erm, wait, sorry, it is mysql, no d
[23:34] <sathiya> sudo apt-get update
[23:34] <sathiya> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[23:34] <brunop> anyone using Jaunty/Karmic with an Intel G43 chipset ... ?
[23:34] <joaopinto> !aptlock | sathiya
[23:34] <kh_pylon> in /var/log/syslog it shows "dmraid-activate: ERROR: Raid set nvidia_dehefcgcf is degraded.  Not activating" ??
[23:34] <sathiya> i did upgrade via update manager..
[23:34] <iceroot> MrWizeGuy1983: start mysql directly from the binary and not /etc/init.d/mysql start  to see the errors
[23:34] <sathiya> no upgrade is going on nowalso ..
[23:34] <sathiya> but i want to change mirror ..
[23:34] <iceroot> sathiya: another process running which is using the repo?
[23:34] <sathiya> to increase speed ..
[23:34] <Yos> I've got internet up now but it doesn't show in networks and I cannot browse, any ideas ?
[23:34] <rjb> hi how can i get the link to download ubuntu 9.10? trying to use wget
[23:34] <MrWizeGuy1983> that's the same one i used before he told me to do it the other way iceroot and it just says fail
[23:35] <sathiya> can somebody help for changing the repo while upgrade is going on?
[23:35] <Pooky1> RJB: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[23:35] <joaopinto> sathiya, you can't
[23:36] <sathiya> something like temporarily stopping upgrade, and resuming?
[23:36] <sathiya> oh i cant ?
[23:36] <sathiya> ok thanks ..
[23:36] <MrWizeGuy1983> oh you said NOT from the etc, i'm not sure where the binary is, i don't use mysql for a server nor did i install it myself, it's there by default on ubuntu iceroot any idea where it is?
[23:36] <rjb> Pooky1: i can't copy the download link
[23:36] <daleharvey> sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid "Name" ?
[23:36] <Pooky1> h ttp://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[23:36] <MrWizeGuy1983> is it in /usr/bin iceroot ?
[23:36] <Pooky1> remove the space rjb...
[23:36] <ctmjr> daleharvey: sudo ifconfig interface up sudo iwconfig interface essid "name in quotes" sudo dhclient interface
[23:36] <mage__> sathiya: take a look at the /etc/apt/sources.list file, im not sure if that gets updated in the middle of an upgrade
[23:36] <sathiya> i've found and did edit in sysctl.conf by no big use..
[23:37] <sathiya> i updated it, but while running apt-get update it says the lock error.
[23:37] <mage__> anyone else having troubles with cron?
[23:37] <ifeanyi> anyone figured out the sound system on 9.10?
[23:37] <joaopinto> mage__, you can't/shouldn't change sources while upgrading
[23:37] <sathiya> mage__
[23:37] <sathiya> see my previous reply ..
[23:37] <joaopinto> ifeanyi, which sound system ?
[23:37] <mage__> ah
[23:37] <daleharvey> ctmjr: awesome, cheers
[23:37] <ifeanyi> how to make the built-in mic work :)
[23:38] <ifeanyi> It was fixed in alsa
[23:38] <Flynsarmy> Anyone else experiencing issues with the sounds in pidgin in karmic? the message received sound plays super fast. Happens the first time i try to play it in the default media player too
[23:38] <sathiya> ok thanks for all the help ..
[23:38] <joaopinto> ifeanyi, did you check System -> Preferences -> Sound, and set the input device and level ?
[23:38] <ctmjr> daleharvey: enjoy
[23:38] <ifeanyi> but alsa doens't seem to be used anymore
[23:38] <roffe> I found nothing to download, could it be the server I'm on?
[23:38] <sathiya> let me go for sleep and my laptop do upgrade ...
[23:38] <sathiya> thank you all.
[23:38] <ifeanyi> yes done that
[23:38] <Alan> Oh great
[23:38] <daleharvey> no working leases :(
[23:38] <Alan> just what I needed
[23:38] <iceroot> MrWizeGuy1983: whereis mysql
[23:38] <joaopinto> ifeanyi, pulseaudio uses alsa
[23:38] <iceroot> MrWizeGuy1983: or   which mysql
[23:38] <Roey> hi..  I tried installing kubuntu (20091027 dailbuild) 64-bit and on startup it says it cannot find my / (which is on /dev/md1).  Instead, it dumps me to busybox.  I checked out /dev/md* and found that there weren't any listed... I did have the raid45 kernel module loaded (I have / and /boot on softraid1 partitions between two drives).   Anyway, like I said, the /dve/md* devices don't appear to be there at bootup.  How
[23:38] <Roey>  can I fix thi
[23:38] <ifeanyi> it's a problem with the driver and was present in older alsa versions
[23:39] <Alan> looks like the USB startup disk creator is junk
[23:39] <tOmAtE> fu
[23:39] <Stormx2> Hi. Just rebooted and lost all sound. halp!
[23:39] <iceroot> Roey: use the final
[23:39] <hvgotcodes> how do i upgrade from karmic beta to karmic?  Nothing is coming up in synaptic
[23:39] <Alan> and make me a broken disk missing some packages
[23:39] <ifeanyi> a jack mic will work but the built-in one won't
[23:39] <Alan> so now i have a blank laptop
[23:39] <MrWizeGuy1983> ahhh /usr/share/mysql
[23:39] <Alan> my favourite
[23:39] <joaopinto> !final | hvgotcodes
[23:39] <Roey> iceroot: there is a difference in that (even between two days?)
[23:39] <rjb> how can i download ubuntu with wget? i need the url
[23:39] <iceroot> !final | hvgotcodes
[23:39] <daleharvey> Alan, I have having a nightmare along the same lines
[23:39] <iceroot> Roey: maybe
[23:39] <doltek> what is the dif between 32 and 64 bit versions??
[23:39] <Roey> iceroot: I was hoping th final might fix the issue--I'm downloading it now.  Was this a known error?
[23:39] <Roey> ah
[23:39] <hvgotcodes> joaopinto, thanx
[23:39] <fxhp> Alan: please try to use one line for your thought...
[23:39] <iceroot> Roey: we dont want support rc version if there is a final
[23:39] <SikEnCide> 64bit has bad support
[23:39] <jhass840> why is empathy such a mass failure?
[23:39] <Alan> daleharvey: would be nice if released features actually got tested at least once
[23:39] <erUSUL> rjb: where are you from ?
[23:39] <erUSUL> SikEnCide: !?
[23:39] <snellcode> doltek: 64 bit can address more ram
[23:40] <rjb> erUSUL: southamerica
[23:40] <TheCheeze> so here i am toying with my fresh 9.10 upgrade
[23:40] <MBSTO> mx
[23:40] <Gika> hello -- my friend's pc boots on grub console after upgrading to karmic.  typing "kernel /boot/[name of last vmlinuz image]" and then "boot" works, but how do you make it permanent?
[23:40] <TheCheeze> i think i dig it so far
[23:40] <iceroot> Roey: look at the ubuntu bug-page
[23:40] <daleharvey> alan: are you getting problems with ubuntu freezing?
[23:40]  * Stormx2 sighs
[23:40] <Alan> fxhp: sorry, i replaced the swearing with heavy presses of the enter key...
[23:40] <joaopinto> Alan, it would be nice if you were one of the persons testing them, and what is your support question ?
[23:40] <Stormx2> I knew pulseaudio wouldn't stay working like this.
[23:40] <yancho>  anyone can help me get flash 10 work on ubuntu 9.04's firefox 3.5 please? I tried: http://queleimporta.com/en/finally-adobe-releases-native-64-bit-flash-10-for-linux/ and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash#flashtrouble to no avail .. any help is super appreciated :)
[23:40] <Yos> Ah,  how to get connected to the internet...anyone ?
[23:40] <erUSUL> rjb: http://mx.releases.ubuntu.com/9.10/
[23:40] <TheCheeze> nice job dev team
[23:40] <armence> How do I tell ubuntu to use a certain DNS?
[23:40] <iceroot> !details | Yos
[23:40] <Alan> daleharvey: no, I can't even install - gets to 30% and then fails to copy a file - end of installation :(
[23:40] <rjb> thank you erUSUL:
[23:40] <ifeanyi> if pulseaudio uses alsa why does it say pulseaudio as device when i enter alsamixer from the command prompt?
[23:40] <bigfootbuilt> 9.10 Question..Does anyone else see a greyed out selection for the flash ver 10 update in update manager? Even when logged into root it is greyed out and I can't select it
[23:41] <joaopinto> armence, set it up on your /etc/resvolv.conf
[23:41] <iceroot> armence: edit  /etc/resolv.conf
[23:41] <jhass840> Is anyone else unable to sign on to AIM using empathy?
[23:41] <TheCheeze> yancho- the easiest way i found was to do a google video search and wait for it to ask you to install the plugins
[23:41] <kh_pylon> is there a website with archives of the 9.10 RC ?
[23:41] <Roey> iceroot: thanks, I'll try it thn
[23:41] <lircdbugr> hey folks: how can I unlock my keyring from the command-line?
[23:41] <JosephDeFazio> Hello everyone
[23:41] <Roey> then
[23:41] <daleharvey> Alan, mine did that around 20 times, one managed to get to somewhere around the end, but the install crashes constantly
[23:41] <lircdbugr> ubuntu karmic
[23:41] <JosephDeFazio> How can I update from 9.10 beta to the official release?
[23:41] <joaopinto> ifeanyi, because alsamixer will use PA to control the  alsa level, or something along these lines :P
[23:41] <trism> bigfootbuilt: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer worked for me
[23:41] <miromanyth> Is it possible to remove pulseaudio and just use ALSA and dmix?
[23:41] <joaopinto> !final | JosephDeFazio
[23:41] <Alan> daleharvey: this only with USB, or with the CD too?
[23:41] <Gika> bigfootbuilt: try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[23:42] <Alan> daleharvey: unfortunately my machine has no CD drive...
[23:42] <ActionParsnip> JosephDeFazio: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[23:42] <daleharvey> usb, cd and external disk drive
[23:42] <JosephDeFazio> Thanks guys :)
[23:42] <ctmjr> daleharvey: ok lets do it again sudo ifconfig <interface> down sudo dhclient -r <interface> sudo ifconfig <interface> up sudo iwconfig <interface> essid "ESSID_IN_QUOTES" sudo iwconfig <interface> mode Managed  sudo dhclient <interface>
[23:42] <daleharvey> cd never got past preferences
[23:42] <ifeanyi> so if i rebuild the alsa driver i should get my built-in mic working again?
[23:42] <fxhp> armence: Right click on the network icon and edit connection, or edit the network interface config file manually
[23:42] <offspring> can anyone tell me how to find my windows partition so that i can read the files?
[23:42] <Alan> daleharvey: out of interest, what kind of hardware?
[23:42] <ifeanyi> why don't they included the latest verison in the new release?
[23:42] <bigfootbuilt> trism: gika: Thanks guys, but what if this continues for other updates? Will the selections always be greyed out?
[23:42] <joaopinto> ifeanyi, was your mirc working with ubuntu 9.04 ?
[23:42] <miromanyth> offspring: It should be listed under "Places"
[23:43] <lircdbugr> I'm seeing suggestions of pam-keyring-tool, but that's out in karmic
[23:43] <daleharvey> ctmjr: I guessed about wlan0 being the correct interface as it was the one on iwconfig that had stuff alongside it, does that sound right?
[23:43] <Nyoron> If I get the amd64 version, does that mean 64bit in general? I need to install on a 64bit intel, and an amd64. Would that be fine for both?
[23:43] <offspring> miromanyth: yea so ive been told, its not there though
[23:43] <daleharvey> Alan: Acer aspire 3369
[23:43] <blazzy> is evolution the default mail client for the gnome project?
[23:43] <daleharvey> *3360
[23:43] <ifeanyi> it too a long time but i got it to work after downloading and building the alsa driver from their website
[23:43] <erUSUL> Nyoron: yes
[23:43] <snellcode> Nyoron: amd64 is also for intel
[23:43] <Yos> Here is my problem, I'm connected to the internet but it doesn't show up on networks so I cannot browse with firefox; I'm on ubuntu 9.04, wubi;  I'm using a usb cellular modem that took me all day to get it to finally work on linux but I am still not fully connecteed
[23:43] <joaopinto> Nyoron, yes, amd64 means 64bits in general
[23:43] <ActionParsnip> Nyoron: yes it will work on intel 64bit too
[23:43] <miromanyth> offspring: What is the partition it is on?
[23:43] <miromanyth> offspring: windows I mean
[23:43] <fxhp> blazzy: evolution is the default mail application for ubuntu
[23:44] <bigfootbuilt> trism: Was the update greyed out on your update manager also?
[23:44] <ctmjr> daleharvey: yes you can double check with sudo ifconfig -a
[23:44] <Nyoron> erUSUL,snellcode,joaopinto, ActionParsnip: thanks
[23:44] <offspring> miromanyth: what do you mean? not really into this stuff yet :/
[23:44] <miromanyth> offspring: Are you still able to boot into Windows?
[23:44] <offspring> miromanyth: yea, it boots perfectly fine
[23:45] <miromanyth> offspring: Ok, that's good news :)
[23:45] <miromanyth> offspring: Try this...
[23:45] <ifeanyi> but a recent kernel update on 9.04 before stopped my built-in mic even before i upgraded to 9.10
[23:45] <millertimek1a2m3> i'm having serious trouble with eclipse
[23:45] <miromanyth> offspring: open your terminal "Menu, accessories, terminal" and type
[23:45] <millertimek1a2m3> if anyone wants to help me?
[23:45] <joaopinto> !details | millertimek1a2m3
[23:45] <miromanyth> offspring: sudo mkdir /mnt/windows
[23:46] <miromanyth> offspring: and then...
[23:46] <blazzy> fxhp: any idea what the gnome default is? I've never been happy with evolution.
[23:46] <millertimek1a2m3> joaopinto: i'm going to post a pastebin with all the details hold on
[23:46] <miromanyth> offspring: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/windows
[23:46] <trism> bigfootbuilt: not sure, I installed it from the command line before I checked synaptic
[23:46] <SnakDoc> there a command to restart xserver or reload /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[23:46] <erUSUL> blazzy: evolution is gnome's default
[23:46] <miromanyth> offspring: then see if it's under /mnt/windows
[23:46] <ActionParsnip> fxhp: you can install any email client you wish
[23:46] <erUSUL> SnakDoc: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[23:46] <sweetandy> Popular day in the ubuntu channel
[23:46] <yancho> Tohuw,  i did what you pasted but still its not working :(
[23:46] <Yos> Guys, how can I get my internet connection to show up on networks so that I can browse the internet;'
[23:46] <bigfootbuilt> trism: ok thanks
[23:46] <SnakDoc> erUSUL: will that og me out
[23:47] <Scunizi> blazzy: you can always install thunderbird with the lightning extension for the calendar.. there's also Zimbra desktop available.
[23:47] <ActionParsnip> Yos: how do you connect?
[23:47] <erUSUL> SnakDoc: of course
[23:47] <SnakDoc> log*
[23:47] <Legendre> knock knock.. what's a suggested partition scheme for a desktop running karmic?
[23:47] <miromanyth> offspring: Any luck?
[23:47] <Yos> ActionParsnip: , I use a usb modem
[23:47] <SnakDoc> erUSUL:  was wanting a way to restart x with out login out
[23:47] <erUSUL> Legendre: /boot / /home
[23:47] <fxhp> ActionParsnip: I agree, you can install any email client, however I still stand that evolution is ubuntu's default.
[23:47] <dksoba88> is there a faster way to upgrade my 9.04 to 9.10 than with 'update-manager -d'... Everyone is probably downloading it right now... maybe a torrent source for update-manager?
[23:47] <daleharvey> doesnt look promising :(
[23:47] <mage__> Legendre: same as usual actually
[23:47] <erUSUL> SnakDoc: there is none
[23:47] <Scunizi> Legendre: 8-12gig for root... 1-2gigs for swap ... the rest for /home
[23:47] <Legendre> assuming separate mounts for /var, /boot, /home, /usr..
[23:47] <ActionParsnip> Legendre: 10Gb /, RAM amount for swap, rest for /home
[23:48] <miromanyth> Is it possible to remove pulseaudio and just use ALSA and dmix?
[23:48] <mage__> Legendre: personally I do / and /home
[23:48] <Legendre> sorry, I should have been more specific.. see pervious post
[23:48] <Nyoron> dksoba88: You can always download the iso, via torrent, and install fresh.
[23:48] <ActionParsnip> fxhp: it is, but a lot of the defaults don't suit all needs
[23:48] <erUSUL> Legendre: overkil for a desktop
[23:48] <Legendre> well, I always sep them out
[23:48] <Scunizi> Legendre: then you might want to use LVM to you can redo sizes on the fly
[23:48] <ActionParsnip> fxhp: so the fact it is default is moot
[23:48] <joaopinto> Legendre, there is nothing special about karmic and partitioning
[23:48] <ActionParsnip> !adsl | yos
[23:48] <Naib> hi, the install for karmic doesn't allow me to change the partition where I want to install grub to. I don't want it on the MFT, is this still possible?
[23:48] <fxhp> ActionParsnip: that wasn't the question.
[23:48] <offspring> miromanyth: somethings definately there, nothing happened at first then typed it again and Device or resource busy
[23:48] <offspring>  came up
[23:48] <Pooky1> could someone explain me how to do a md5 checksum, what software and how to get the key from a file and compare to reference ? =)
[23:48] <Legendre> joaopinto: yes, I realize this.. but I need some hints for sizes for /usr and /var
[23:48] <Naib> nvm found the option
[23:48] <Legendre> and / for that matter
[23:48] <lircdbugr> is it possible to open the gnome keyring from the terminal in Karmic?
[23:48] <ActionParsnip> !md5 | Pooky1
[23:48] <Pooky1> thank you
[23:49] <dksoba88> Nyoron, I have too many oddball settings on my computer... I use a lot of proprietary software that needs this or that specially configured. To do that would take much too long, or maybe not even work
[23:49] <mage__> miromanyth: try removing the package for pulseaudio
[23:49] <kh_pylon> how can I force ubiquity to use a specific hard drive?  It doesn't detect my drive
[23:49] <hinchy> Hey there, I'm trying to install ubuntu on my computer... I just downloaded the latest release and burned and verified it, but now when I select the install option on the boot manager, I just get a flashing underscore
[23:49] <ActionParsnip> fxhp: what was the question?
[23:49] <coordinador> hi
[23:49] <Pooky1> but not under windows... ubuntu... ?
[23:49] <miromanyth> offspring: Go to Places, computer and then /mnt/windows
[23:49] <fxhp> Pooky1: I normally use python to do md5 checksums
[23:49] <mage__> miromanyth: if it wants to uninstall everything obv dont do it ;)
[23:49] <joaopinto> Legendre, you do understand that your scheme is recommended for servers, not desktops, right ?
[23:49] <dksoba88> Nyoron, But yea... I did do that for my laptop
[23:49] <Legendre> I'm thinking / = 2gb , /boot = 150mb, /usr = 6gb, /var = 2gb - rest for home, 256m for swap
[23:49] <ActionParsnip> !bootoptions | hinchy
[23:49] <Nyoron> dksoba88: Well, lots of people are currently updating, so I guess that may be the only way.
[23:49] <Yos> ActionParsnip: I have it all set up already...I'm using it now to chat with you and I am updating I just can't browse is all
[23:49] <hinchy> thanks
[23:49] <miromanyth> mage__: I'll give it a whirl. Thanks
[23:49] <Legendre> joaopinto: I've done it this way for ten years =)
[23:49] <ActionParsnip> Legendre: if that suits your needs, then its fine
[23:49] <mage__> Legendre: new to ubuntu?
[23:49] <fxhp> ActionParsnip: I was answering another user.
[23:49] <dksoba88> Nyoron, ic. Yea I was hoping we could run update-manager through a torrent source some how... I guess not possible. It'd be convenient
[23:50] <tanath> can anyone help me recovery my desktop? it's hidden when using compiz
[23:50] <ActionParsnip> fxhp: gotcha
[23:50] <erUSUL> Legendre: then why you ask ;)
[23:50] <daleharvey> ctmjr: what happens if it is successful? right now I am hung on "Sending on Socket/fallback"
[23:50] <dksoba88> Nyoron, Ubuntu's open source... maybe I should work on that lmao
[23:50] <Argos> anyone got it up and running
[23:50] <ActionParsnip> Yos: you may need to define name servers in /etc/resolv.conf
[23:50] <mage__> Legendre: debian/ubuntu puts more into var than the average unix
[23:50] <coordinador> i have a problem, my brightness goes up and down repeatedly
[23:50] <offspring> miromanyth: success! thanks alot!
[23:50] <Pooky1> fxhp: well its mainly for my iso download.... dont want any problem and trasmission tells me 2.5mo corrupt...
[23:50] <miromanyth> offspring: No problem :)
[23:50] <Legendre> mage__: aye, thats why I'm asking ths stuff ;-)
[23:50] <hellupline> anyone is having problems with the new UbuntuOne? mine says that i have a problem with the size in the UbuntuOne
[23:50] <Legendre> 2gb not enough for var?
[23:50] <trism> Anyone know where they moved the Services menu item to in 9.10? It used to be under System/Administration/Services
[23:50] <joaopinto> hellupline, known issue, being fixed
[23:51] <conb123> Man this is bugging me, basically i have no spare cd's downloading the dvd will take a while and it is too late to go to the store so i was wondering if there is a way to boot an extracted ubuntu live cd iso in grub, any ideas?
[23:51] <hellupline> thanks
[23:51] <joaopinto> trism, it was removed because it does not work with the new services system, upstart
[23:51] <ActionParsnip> Legendre: i'd say 2Gb for / was a little small but you can resize I guess
[23:51] <coordinador> ***i have a problem, my brightness goes up and down repeatedly
[23:51] <mage__> Legendre: try 4
[23:51] <TheCheeze> hrm... sound is kinda crackly
[23:51] <tanath> conb123, have a usb thumb drive? you can use that
[23:51] <Nyoron> conb123: You can burn CD isos to a DVD and work off of that.
[23:51] <Legendre> mage__: 4gb for var? nutty, ok!
[23:51] <fxhp> Pooky1:  GtkHash, try that
[23:52] <flan_suse> I tried to install the alternate install (from a USB stick created with UNetbootin) but I keep getting an error message about "no cdrom found" when I try to install it on my netbook. Can someone please help? There has to be a way for it to use the USB flash as the installation source.
[23:52] <ctmjr> daleharvey: if it works you will get a msg about an ip address and lease expires in 490004 secs or another number
[23:52] <Pooky1> fxhp, aight ill try that... thanks
[23:52] <conb123> tantath: Well yeah but something is preventing me from botting form usb-zip devices, my pc must hate me or something
[23:52] <MrWizeGuy1983> iceroot i found debian-start under /etc/mysql and it gave some odd error messages then sat there
[23:52] <tanath> conb123, Sys > Admin > USB startup disk creator
[23:52] <joaopinto> Legendre, with such a complex partition scheme you should be able to size it yourself, that is not a recommended scheme and there are no guidelines for setting it up at that detail
[23:52] <ProfOak> flan_suse: In your BIOS you should have a boot order. Check to see yours, and change it accordingly.
[23:53] <fxhp> conb123: maybe get the netbook remix version and use the USB drive
[23:53] <flan_suse> ProfOak, it boots from the USB drive. But during the "installation" it gives me the error message.
[23:53] <mage__> Legendre: well I've been sharing the apt cache directory between nodes so it can fill up
[23:53] <Legendre> joaopinto: tell me this, how large are your /var and /usr?
[23:53] <conb123> tanath: I know, i have created one numerous times but some kind of bios problem is preventing me
[23:53] <ctmjr> daleharvey: is network manager running if it is try killing it it has a way of interfering with command line stuff
[23:53] <flan_suse> ProfOak, I am able to select language and keyboard layout. Then it tells me I don't have a cdrom drive, lol. Well, duh, since I'm on a netbook.
[23:53] <conb123> fxhp: What is that exactly?
[23:53] <Legendre> joaopinto: trees, not partitions.
[23:53] <Yos> ActionParsnip: and what should I use for nameserver ?  IP address or something ?
[23:53] <ActionParsnip> Legendre: you can make them part of / if you dont define a special partitin for them
[23:53] <tanath> conb123, you'll need to configure the bios properly to boot from usb. i had trouble at first too
[23:53] <ProfOak> flan_suse: You may want to try the netbook remix.
[23:53] <fxhp> conb123: its the ubuntu installer that you can run from a tumb drive
[23:54] <ActionParsnip> Yos: yes you'll need an ip
[23:54] <Legendre> ActionParsnip: arrgh, lol. Yes, I get that ;-)
[23:54] <flan_suse> ProfOak, I want to use the alternate CD for partition encryption.
[23:54] <joaopinto> Legendre, that is an unusefull question, I have an apt-cacher which files /var, which you don't care about, like I said, sizing those partitions is user dependent
[23:54] <ProfOak> flan_suse: I got nothin
[23:54] <mage__>  /var/cache/apt/
[23:54] <flan_suse> ProfOak, no problem.
[23:54] <joaopinto> Legendre, you really should leave the chanell for those which need support with real problems
[23:54] <ActionParsnip> Yos: gksudo gedit /etc/resolv.conf
[23:54] <ActionParsnip> Yos: add these lines:   nameserver 208.67.222.222
[23:54] <TheCheeze> how does one know what is the best audio device profile for their system? am on an hp pavilion laptop
[23:54] <daleharvey> oh, I was just confused, the computer had froze again, but the terminal still flashes so thought it was alive
[23:54] <joaopinto> Legendre, if you need to check a real system, boot the livecd, and check the directories size
[23:55] <ActionParsnip> Yos: nameserver 208.67.220.220
[23:55] <conb123> tanath: I managed it before i think, but now whenever i switch to usb-zip it jsut ignores it completely i shall try a few more times with it
[23:55] <miromanyth> TheCheeze: Audio profile?
[23:55] <mage__> use 4.2.2.2! ;)
[23:55] <Chriz1> i installed phpmyadmin but when i go to localhost/phpmyadmin only a white screen comes up, any ideas?
[23:55] <conb123> fxhp: ok thanks i shall look into it if i still cannot get usb boot to work
[23:55] <TheCheeze> miromanyth, in sound preferences
[23:55] <dan__> hey, I followed the steps to install grub 2, but the boot loader still shows a version like 1.98 (beta 5) or something, is this considered GRUB 2?  Or do I still somehow have the legacy version installed?
[23:55] <brendan`> Chriz1, check the apache error log
[23:55] <habanany> hey guys , how do i run minefield 3.7 in safe mode (karmic koala)
[23:55] <TheCheeze> hardware
[23:55] <joaopinto> dan__, that's grub2
[23:55] <brendan`> its usually a php fatal error
[23:55] <tanath> conb123, i had to enable booting to usb, _and_ set the boot order. check for both
[23:55] <Gika> did you install the proper php modules for apache, Chriz1?
[23:55] <dan__> joaopinto, ok, thank you
[23:55] <lircdbugr> gnome-keyring: how do you unlock it from a bash shell? (karmic)
[23:56] <erUSUL> dan__: it is considered grub2
[23:56] <Chriz1> Gika, php runs fine
[23:56] <fxhp> Chriz1: PHP installed?
[23:56] <miromanyth> TheCheeze: I believe that those are different collections of sound effects for desktop use.
[23:56] <craigbass1976> I've added a couple of repos in sources.list (ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mozilla-daily) so that I can get the newest firefox and allow my wife to play farkle on facebook.  However, farkle still doesn't work.  Anyone got any other ideas?  Mafia wars still works
[23:56] <miromanyth> TheCheeze: Are you having audio problems?
[23:56] <Chriz1> fxhp, yeah
[23:56] <ActionParsnip> Yos: when you have added the lines, run: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[23:56] <brendan`> i think i need to go upgrade and get shit working on ubuntu
[23:56] <Gika> check the php logs then Chriz1
[23:56] <ActionParsnip> Yos: you will now have DNS servers
[23:56] <brendan`> the white screen is usually a php fatal error
[23:56] <conb123> tanath: Yeh i couldn't find a booting to usb option anywhere, also i remember from previous experiences trying all the different usb slots tends to help
[23:56] <daleharvey> I may cry
[23:56] <tanath> conb123, might also need to do a hard reboot, rather than soft reboot
[23:56] <brendan`> check the apache error log
[23:56] <Chriz1> nothing in the error log about that
[23:56] <[newbie]> jd
[23:57] <brendan`> if you just put a basic php echo page in there and browse to it
[23:57] <brendan`> does it display the text?
[23:57] <tanath> conb123, that prolly triggered a hard reboot due to hardware change. just power off completely before starting up again
[23:57] <TheCheeze> miromanyth, crackly noises...
[23:57] <habanany> help, how do i run minefielf 3.7 in safe mode < i'm using karmic
[23:57] <Chriz1> brendan`, that works fine
[23:57] <brendan`> hmm
[23:57] <brendan`> interesting
[23:57] <TheCheeze> like it iwll pop before playing the noise when someone signs in on messenger
[23:57] <Chriz1> but phpmyadmin comes up blank =S, everything else works fine
[23:57] <Admiral-Awesome> What had happened to Sessions I just see Startup applications now?
[23:57] <coordinador> Hey guys look at this video, this is happening to me when i enter to gnome in ubuntu 9.10:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipD2rQwJpM0
[23:58] <conb123> tanath: What should i use to format my stick in the appropriate format?
[23:58] <fxhp> Chriz1: if I can remember correctly, phpmyadmin needs to be setup, did you do that?
[23:58] <erUSUL> !lamp | Chriz1
[23:58] <TheCheeze> seems like it stopped now i think... weird
[23:58] <Chriz1> fxhp, ubuntu sets it up right
[23:58] <tanath> conb123, fat32
[23:58] <Chriz1> erUSUL, mysql works fine
[23:58] <tanath> conb123, i think the usb creator takes care of that
[23:59] <kh_pylon> is there a website with archives of the 9.10 RC ?
[23:59] <conb123> tanath: Nope told me there is not enough space, where is the usb format tool in jaunty?
[23:59] <miromanyth> TheCheeze: Hmm. Sometimes people have problems with Intel brand soundcards, but it can be fixed. I think I saw a "how-to" on the Ubuntu forums. I'd look there if the problem persists.
[23:59] <fxhp> fxhp: I don't recall, I started using 'emma' for mysql
[23:59] <lircdbugr> karmic has same problem as jaunty: if autologin set to true, you get prompted for keyring to unlock wireless.  auto-nothin!
[23:59] <tanath> conb123, install gparted
[23:59] <fxhp> Its a mysql client
[23:59] <habanany> amigo arand , how can i run minefield in safe mode ?
[23:59] <Pooky1> hmmmm, there is no Hashes on the UbuntuHashes for Karmic.... ???
[23:59]  * FiReSTaRT <3 Sun.. they already have the karmic deb for virtual box :P
[23:59] <conb123> tanath: Of course yeah i have that installed i shall use it
[23:59] <joaopinto> lircdbugr, that is not a problem, that is how the keyring works, if you dont want a keyring password, remove it
[23:59] <fxhp> Chriz1: I started using 'emma' for mysql client
[23:59] <RenatoSilva> updating to karmic, will pidgin be removed for the new client?