[00:00] <francis_> viva kubuntu!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[00:00] <francis_> vive la resistance!!!!!!!!!
[00:05] <PAgore> EagleScreen: Do you know if konqueror is important for thumbnails?
[00:05] <EagleScreen> I dont know
[00:05] <EagleScreen> but they work in dolphin
[00:06] <PAgore> the first think i made when i installed kubuntu was uninstall konqueror, dragon player, amarok
[00:06] <PAgore> i install konqueror
[00:06] <PAgore> maybe this is the fault
[00:06] <Luggage> pagore thumbnails work here and i removed konq
[00:07] <EagleScreen> it is working for me now in dolphin
[00:07] <Luggage> if that helps find answers
[00:07] <EagleScreen> but i have konqueror installed
[00:07] <PAgore> ok it was not konqueror
[00:07] <PAgore> i installed it
[00:08] <Luggage> thats why i chimed in, thumbs work here but konq was the first thing to go and be replaced when I installed this setup
[00:12] <PAgore> hmm interresting, i get 100% for mplayer if i write "top?
[00:12] <amik> man the netbook interface is pretty bizzar
[00:13] <Luggage> howcome?
[00:14] <EagleScreen> bizzar?
[00:14] <amik> sure is.
[00:15] <amik> very unintuitive, not too useful. but it's not an actual release version yet (as far as kde are concerned), so I won't rant too much
[00:15] <Luggage> he means bizarre
[00:15] <Luggage> EagleScreen:
[00:15] <amik> I do!
[00:15] <truzba> hello how i can format disks on my kubuntu 9.10, in ubunyu it is easy with disk utility but kubuntu???
[00:16] <iWolf[Away]> Hi,
[00:16] <iWolf> I have a Dell C400
[00:16] <Luggage> lo iWolf, truzba
[00:16] <iWolf> And i want to install Kubuntu
[00:17] <iWolf> Do i need to install nVidia drivers?
[00:17] <iWolf> And if so, how?
[00:17] <amik> I hope for their sake that this is before any user usability tests, not after :-p
[00:17] <iWolf> Before
[00:17] <iWolf> :P
[00:17] <iWolf> Im used to linux,
[00:17] <Luggage> i guess a good idea would be to do what one does installing any os anyway, write down all the hardware products in the machine
[00:17] <iWolf> Just need a little direction on drivers
[00:17] <amik> iWolf: hi, I was talking about the netbook interface :-)
[00:17] <EagleScreen> iWolf: it is expected to be easy installing nvidia drivers if you need, with a tool called Hardware Drivers
[00:18] <Luggage> keep a internet connection handy if you run into problems
[00:18] <Bwyard> how do i mount a harddrive partition
[00:18] <BluesKaj> iWolf, the kernel source modules should contain the drivers for your card if it's not over 3 yrs old or so
[00:18] <iWolf> Thanks EagleScreen
[00:18] <Luggage> and to answer the graphis question, kubuntu will run from start graphically with nvidia
[00:18] <iWolf> Alright,
[00:18] <iWolf> Like Ubuntu?
[00:18] <Luggage> but will need better driver later on
[00:18] <Luggage> but no problem for installing first mins in desktop etc.. should be fine, was on my nvidia gtx
[00:19] <truzba> how i can format disks on my kubuntu 9.10, in ubuntu it is easy with disk utility but kubuntu KDE ???
[00:19] <iWolf> So, Just Go to Hardware Drivers, And Install The Driver
[00:19] <Luggage> replying since I was in your position (guessing first real linux install or not?) 3 days ago
[00:19] <iWolf> Oh,
[00:19] <yofel> iWolf: yes, you might have to refresh the package cache once after a fresh installation though before they show up
[00:19] <iWolf> I've gone through MANY distros
[00:19] <localnnuser__> i need to do something i dont know how to start... i need to put windows installer and kubuntu installer on the same pendrive... how can i do this?
[00:20] <Luggage> ah, seemed basic questions, sorry :)
[00:20] <amik> truzba: I just did it with qparted, and someone mentioned partitionmanager too... dunno if there's something better or easier
[00:20] <iWolf> Heh heh heh
[00:20] <amik> truzba: qtparted, that is
[00:20] <iWolf> So far, im hoping Kubuntu is the best
[00:20] <PAgore> Do some of you know, if mplayerthumbs support unicode? :)
[00:21] <Luggage> having some iffy's with it but thats probably down to me being quite new to linux :)
[00:21] <EagleScreen> and that question, PAgore?
[00:21] <amik> bizzarreness aside, here's a functional q: how do I see/switch open tasks?
[00:21] <BluesKaj> !Gparted | truzba
[00:21] <EagleScreen> partitionmanager is a KDE partition manager
[00:21] <BluesKaj> truzba, I recommend the live cd version , very b=versatile and easy to use
[00:21] <EagleScreen> !partitionmanager
[00:22] <PAgore> EagleScreen: the most of my videos use Russian letters, google dont show me, if mplayerthumbs can produce this thumbsnails
[00:22] <PAgore> EagleScreen: maybe you can help me :D
[00:22] <truzba> BluesKaj: i need simple solution directly from kubuntu, i try to install same disk manager from ubuntu
[00:22] <BluesKaj> EagleScreen, yeah but GParted is the best so far , so what it's a gnome app...it still works very well.
[00:22] <amik> EagleScreen: btw, I installed partitionmanager and it wouldn't start. qtparted did the job.
[00:23] <Luggage> have a nice evening all, nn
[00:23] <amik> Luggage: nite
[00:23] <EagleScreen> qtparted?
[00:23] <micheleloffredo> qualche porca x me?
[00:23] <micheleloffredo> contattate in privato
[00:24] <BluesKaj> !es | micheleloffredo
[00:24] <amik> EagleScreen: like gparted in qt. works well. a bit ugly, but so is gparted.
[00:24] <EagleScreen> qtparted is the worst
[00:24] <EagleScreen> and it is out of Kubuntu now
[00:24] <BluesKaj> who cares about that, it's a tool
[00:24] <EagleScreen> i know well qtparted
[00:24] <sithlord48> happy release day everyone
[00:25] <amik> I find it just about the same as gparted
[00:25] <amik> how do I see/switch running tasks in netbook interface?
[00:25] <amik> they're all gone... it says 11 running apps in the corner, but i can't find a way to access them
[00:26] <iWolf> !KDE
[00:27] <iWolf> Wow, I Like Your Bot
[00:27] <iWolf> Who ever made it
[00:27] <iWolf> :P
[00:27] <yofel>  !me
[00:27] <EagleScreen> amik: try in #kubuntu-netbook
[00:27] <lauren__> amik: I just click on "running apps" and it shows me them
[00:27] <marco____> I have to say everyone that Kubuntu 9.10 is fucking SOLID!
[00:27] <amik> EagleScreen: I will, thanks
[00:27] <amik> lauren__: I click, nothing happens
[00:28] <EagleScreen> see you tomorrow people
[00:28] <EagleScreen> bye
[00:28] <amik> EagleScreen: nite, and thanks for all the help
[00:28] <iWolf> Bye!
[00:29] <sithlord48> yea its been SOILD indeed
[00:29] <sithlord48> er SOLID lol
[00:30] <iWolf> !me
[00:30] <PAgore> EagleScreen: ok it is not because of Unicode, i moved all those movies to on other Computer and the same happenes
[00:33] <Sepling> I'm using apt-build in 9.10 to install wine (for obvious reasons) and though it's configured for my processor type, and I've even added "-m64" in the gcc options, I get a 32bit executable (and I see "-m32" in the cc process' argument row).  Any idea why?
[00:34] <Sepling> Perhaps I should've added it, but I'm obviously running the 64bit version of Kubuntu.
[00:35] <yofel> Sepling: why do you build wine yourself?
[00:35] <Sepling> yofel: To get it optimized for my processor.
[00:36] <yofel> Sepling: maybe the folks in #winehq can help you
[00:36] <Sepling> I'm using it for gaming, so if I can squeeze out a higher framerate it'll be worth it.
[00:36] <Sepling> Yar, let's hope.
[00:36] <truzba> can anyone recommend what is best filesystem for backuping large files ext2, ext3 or ext4 like movies, hd camera raw files, software etc
[00:40] <marco____> truzba XFS is the way
[00:41] <BluesKaj> truzba, the file system doesn't really matter much as long as it does it's job , but ext3 is amature and stable  and ext4 is the latest and default on clean installs of karmic
[00:41] <truzba> marco____: ubuntu only gives ext2, 3, 4 and fat32
[00:41] <truzba> i do ext3 i think too
[00:41] <marco____> ext4
[00:42] <yofel> truzba: just use ext3, it's stable and works well
[00:42] <BluesKaj> <--- is on ext4 , with no fs probs so far
[00:42] <yofel> you don't really need ext4 performance for backups
[00:42] <marco____> ext4 is more secure
[00:42] <yofel> BluesKaj: I don't have issues either, but there's a rather scary bug, let me search for it
[00:43] <yofel> marco____: how that?
[00:43] <BluesKaj> yofel, HW related ?
[00:43] <yofel> bug 453579
[00:43] <truzba> KDE partition manager creates now ext3, i am using ext3 from now
[00:44] <yofel> ubottu: ?
[00:44] <yofel> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/453579
[00:45] <marco____> truzba look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext4
[00:45] <yofel> comment #86 is particulary interesting o.O
[00:47] <Ev0luti0n_> OMAGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD
[00:47] <Ev0luti0n_> IT IS AVAILABLE
[00:47] <Ev0luti0n_> SHHHHHHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT
[00:47] <FloodBotK1> Ev0luti0n_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:47] <Ev0luti0n_> :d
[00:47] <Ev0luti0n_> as anybody had troubles upgrading?
[00:47] <Ev0luti0n_> or everybody made a clean instal?
[00:47] <orzel> Hello, i've lost the systray stuff that takes care of updates... and i dont know what to start to have it back. It once was 'adept-notifier' but i dont have such a binary. I'm using kubuntu 9.04... do you know ?
[00:47] <KiRiLoS_> w
[00:48] <Ev0luti0n_> orzel: try adding new widgets to the panel
[00:48] <Ev0luti0n_> right click on it
[00:48] <orzel> ah ? that's so much integrated ? let's try
[00:49] <orzel> Ev0luti0n_: i can't find anything related in the plasma widget list.. ?
[00:50] <yofel> orzel: kpackagekit maybe?
[00:50] <yofel> (I haven't used kubuntu jaunty much, so I'm not sure)
[00:51] <Bwyard> how do i unmount an extra partition mounted to /
[00:51] <orzel> yofel: no.. it starts the window to configure the package manager and/or install stuff. I want the small icon in the panel that tells me whether there are updates (or not)
[00:52] <yofel> BluesKaj: define 'extra', you've got 2 partition mounted on / ?
[00:52] <yofel> *partitions
[00:52] <Ev0luti0n_> try searching on the control panel for that
[00:52] <Ev0luti0n_> orzel
[00:52] <BluesKaj> Bwyard, yofel , not me
[00:52] <yofel> orzel: well, here in karmic kpackagekit notifies me if there are updates, but the icon isn't there if there aren't any updates
[00:53] <yofel> uuups
[00:53] <yofel> BluesKaj: sry
[00:53] <orzel> Ev0luti0n_:  you mean 'systemsettings' ? that brings me the same window
[00:53] <BluesKaj> yofel, np , I was about to ask the same question :)
[00:53] <yofel> Bwyard: define 'extra', you've got 2 partitions mounted on / ?
[00:53] <orzel> yofel: ok, but right now if it was there it would yield something about karmic, right ? :)
[00:54] <yofel> bwyard: define 'extra', you've got 2 partitions mounted on / ?
[00:54] <bwyard> yes
[00:55] <bwyard> the original one then a second that i accidently mounted tehre
[00:55] <bwyard> ays its in use
[00:55] <BluesKaj> bbl
[00:55] <bwyard> oops ignor ethat last comment
[00:56] <orzel> yofel: , Ev0luti0n_ : ah found, it's 'update-notifier-kde'
[00:56] <yofel> well, usually I would just unmount the 2nd partition, but I'm not sure how to handle / - reboot maybe?
[00:56] <bwyard> well i tried logging out but it wont work that way
[00:57] <bwyard> i will try rebooting
[00:59] <linuxchanger> hi
[01:00] <linuxchanger> how to update the system of kubuntu 9.04 to 9.1 ?
[01:00] <Ev0luti0n_> use the icon on the system tray
[01:00] <Ev0luti0n_> or download the distro from www.kubuntu.org
[01:01] <ubuntu_> why does kubuntu come with this old package manager and ubuntu has the new and fresh one
[01:01] <linuxchanger> kk thx :)
[01:01] <Ev0luti0n_> O.o
[01:01] <Ev0luti0n_> ubuntu_: which packaged manager?
[01:01] <Ev0luti0n_> 9.04 has kpackagekit, which is a pretty nifty one
[01:01] <yofel> ubuntu_: if you mean the software-center, that's ubuntu-only
[01:01] <ubuntu_> why is teh software center ubuntu only though
[01:02] <yofel> more like it's a replacement for gnome-app-install
[01:02] <jamex> kpackagekit is bad
[01:03] <jamex> the fonts in kubuntu are ugly. is it possible to get the microsoft fonts
[01:03] <bwyard> it fixed
[01:04] <jamex> should i use konqueror or firefox?
[01:04] <orzel> konqueror  :)
[01:04] <jamex> why?
[01:04] <orzel> more lightweight, opens quicker. Now that flash works i see no reason not to use it
[01:05] <jamex> is there any way to get the ubuntu software store ?
[01:05] <yofel> jamex: install the software-center package if you want it
[01:08] <jamex> wghere is it ?
[01:10] <memenode> What are the changes between Kubuntu beta or RC and final?
[01:10] <jamex> nothing
[01:11] <memenode> because it was buggy
[01:11] <jamex> i still get an error when switchign hard drives during the install. the only way i could get it done is buy doing a manual install
[01:11] <yofel> memenode: a few bugfixes I think, but not much
[01:11] <memenode> ah something tells me not everything is fixed..
[01:11] <jamex> still can't get nvidia driver installed
[01:11] <yofel> memenode: you can read up the karmic-changes ML for details
[01:11] <bwyard> how do i get write privelages to a mounted harddrive
[01:12] <yofel> bwyard: filesystem of the drive?
[01:12] <memenode> dolphin had file display issues (need to refresh to show)
[01:12] <bwyard> a harddrive partition
[01:13] <memenode> uncompressing via right click didn't work always, sometimes requires two, three or more times
[01:13] <yofel> bwyard: well yeah, but what filesystem is on it?
[01:13] <yofel> bwyard: ext3/4, ntfs ?
[01:13] <bwyard> none its blank
[01:13] <bwyard> oh that
[01:13] <bwyard> its ext3
[01:13] <jamex> how do you get flash for konqueror
[01:14] <yofel> bwyard: either set yourself as the owner of the drive by setting the owner of the mount point to yourself or set it to be group or world writable
[01:14] <bwyard> how do i do that
[01:16] <yofel> bwyard: either 'sudo chown yourname:yourname /path/to/mount/point' or 'sudo chmod go+w /path/to/mount/point' - what you use depends on what you need
[01:16] <bwyard> i need to write and read to the mount point
[01:16] <yofel> if you're the only one that's using the drive use the first one
[01:16] <bwyard> yeah i am
[01:19] <bwyard> its not working
[01:20] <yofel> bwyard: the 2nd one too?
[01:20] <bwyard> havent tried it
[01:22] <bwyard> it worked
[01:22] <bwyard> how do i mount a windows drive
[01:23] <yofel> bwyard: the 2nd one is a bit brute-force, it's like: give everyone permission to write
[01:23] <bwyard> ok thank you
[01:23] <yofel> bwyard: mount it with dolphin is the easiest way i think
[01:23] <bwyard> i dont have dolphin
[01:24] <bwyard> oh damn im in wrong channel
[01:24] <yofel> ^^
[01:24] <bwyard> thought i was in #xubuntu
[01:24] <bwyard> well damn
[01:24] <yofel> heh, I never used thunar
[01:24] <bwyard> oh ok
[01:24] <bwyard> well thank you yofel
[01:25] <yofel> bwyard: you can mount it on the cli too
[01:25] <yofel> but iirc you need to set the permissions to your UID or something like that so you can use it
[01:25] <bwyard> oh ok
[01:25] <yofel> it's some mountpoint
[01:25] <yofel> err...
[01:26] <yofel> mount option
[01:26] <bwyard> ok well i think im gonna reformat soon anyways to 9.10 so ill figure out then
[01:26] <reagleBRKLN> in kde 3.5.10 i had a nice feature that i could drag a url to konsole and id get a popup servicemenu asking me if i wanted to cp, cd, etc. I don't recall if I added that or if standard, but is there anything like that for KDE4?
[01:26] <bwyard> i just needed more room to save the iso
[01:29] <Deihmos> nvidia not installing with kubuntu
[01:29] <Deihmos> works fine with ubuntu
[01:31] <yofel> Deihmos: that shouldn't be, what happens?
[01:32] <Deihmos> click activate and nothing happens
[01:32] <yofel> what version are you trying to install?
[01:33] <Deihmos> 185
[01:34] <yofel> can you check if the 'nvidia-glx-185' package is installed? (search for it in kpackagekit)
[01:34] <Deihmos> not installed. in ubuntu when i click activate it downloads it then installs
[01:35] <yofel> if not, install it. It's the one that get's installed by 'Hardware Drivers'
[01:35] <Deihmos> in package managers they have two
[01:35] <Deihmos> xong driver and xong driver development tools
[01:36] <yofel> Deihmos: the driver, you don't usually need the dev tools
[01:40] <Deihmos> konqueror supports java?
[01:41] <orzel> it's supposed to i guess
[01:43] <len> My Logitech wireless Keyboard/mouse have become unstable (lock up) after upgrading to 9.10
[01:44] <MsMaco> len: are you sure theyre whats locked and not X? like have you tried another kbd/mouse?
[01:44] <len> Are there known issues with xserver?
[01:44] <len> It think it is something to to with X
[01:45] <len> because screen goes black sometimes with black screen.
[01:45] <len> and frozen mouse pointer
[01:46] <len> It even self-rebooted once.
[01:47] <len> They did an eleventh hour xorg update after beta was already out, didn't they?
[01:48] <len> Might have been a bad move.  xorg upgrades always seem to be thorny.
[01:50] <yofel> now that you mention it, my usb mouse stopped working if I plug it in my EeePC, it get's recongnized, but it doesn't work...
[01:50] <len> Shouldn't it be super busy in here tonight?  Where is everybody?
[01:51] <yofel> len: took a peek in #ubuntu? Almost too much going on there to keep up with reading ^^
[01:51] <yofel> much more relaxed here :D
[01:52] <Ev0luti0n_> i am so fucke
[01:52] <Ev0luti0n_> d
[01:52] <Ev0luti0n_> :(
[01:52] <FloodBotK1> Ev0luti0n_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:52] <yofel> !language | Ev0luti0n_
[01:53] <Ev0luti0n_> going to take several hours to download the files
[01:53] <Ev0luti0n_> :X
[01:53] <len> I'd expect a lot more people over there, but aren't there even LESS  people logged in here than usual?  That's a head scratcher.
[01:53] <yofel> Ev0luti0n_: change the mirror to a faster one?
[01:53] <Ev0luti0n_> i can't
[01:53] <Ev0luti0n_> upgrading through kpackagekit's thingy
[01:53] <yofel> :/
[01:54] <Ev0luti0n_> 4hours remaining
[01:54] <Ev0luti0n_> lol
[01:54] <Ev0luti0n_> im on a 16mbits adsl line
[01:54] <Ev0luti0n_> xD
[01:54] <Ev0luti0n_> normally download at 1.5 mbps
[01:54] <yofel> yeah, I know that feeling XD
[01:55] <len> Does kpackagekit fully functional now? ie, able to upgrade and add new programs?
[01:55] <yofel> didn't test the upgrade, but installing apps works
[01:56] <binMonkey> i pinned a bunch of packages using synaptic.  now when i use aptitude to update and then safe-upgrade, it wants to upgrade my pinned packages.  is there some way to get aptitude to leave my pinned stuff alone?
[01:56] <yofel> binMonkey: pin them in aptitude by pressing = on the package you want
[01:56] <yofel> aptitude can't know of the synaptic pins
[01:57] <binMonkey> yofel: can you give me an example please?
[01:58] <yofel> oh yeah, I don't know how to pin packages on the cli with aptitude, I only know how it works in the ncurses interface, you just mark a package and press '=' there
[01:59] <yofel> ah, 'aptitude hold <package>' prevents updates
[02:00] <yofel> nice manpage :)
[02:01] <binMonkey> dang.  i've been over that manpage a couple of times but i always breezed over the 'remove' section.  that's where 'hold' is.  thanks.
[02:01] <marco____> kubuntu 9.10 does not save the configuration of the weather plasma (BUG)
[02:02] <memenode> Q: If there is any known bug in KDE current release (like 4.3 now), is it fixed for kubuntu final or is it left to next KDE release?
[02:04] <yofel> memenode: depends, it will be fixed after release only if it qualifies for a SRU
[02:04] <yofel> !sru
[02:04] <marco____> memenode it's fixed in the KDE branch and trunk
[02:04] <marco____> for more info search at kde web svn
[02:04] <marco____> also kubutnu try to fix their packages
[02:05] <memenode> ah
[02:05] <memenode> I suppose same is with GNOME
[02:05] <marco____> memenode any way if you find a bug yo should report it at bugs.kde.org and also at you distro page
[02:06] <memenode> yeah
[02:06] <marco____> if you report it at bugs.kde.org all distor will benefit from that
[02:06] <marco____> distro's i mean
[02:06] <memenode> it just occurred to me this is kinda one of the few disadvantages of the linux style of OS development.. since the actual OS project doesn't contain projects of its components it's possible to ship knowingly buggy OS
[02:07] <marco____> linux is the kernel
[02:07] <marco____> www.kernel.org
[02:07] <memenode> unlike when everything is from one company, in house.. kernel to DE
[02:08] <marco____> the quality that of software depend's too much on the distribution you choose
[02:08] <marco____> it's directly releated to the SQA team
[02:09] <memenode> alright I'm gonna test both as live cds and decide
[02:09]  * memenode is trying to decide between Ubuntu and Kubuntu basically :)
[02:10] <memenode> (been running kubuntu since beta though)
[02:10] <marco____> memenode both what?
[02:10] <memenode> kubuntu and ubuntu
[02:29] <webbb82_> i just installed the "compiz-kde" package in synaptic but i dunno how to start using compiz
[02:30] <webbb82_> anyone know?
[02:35] <lronic_> can someone help me
[02:35] <lronic_> when i try to install Wine this what i get
[02:35] <hagabaka> where did the "asoundrc" program go?
[02:36] <webbb82_> so no one knows how to use the compiz-kde package?
[02:36] <lronic_> Failed to run /usr/sbin/synaptic '--hide-main-window' '--non-interactive' '-o' 'Synaptic::closeZvt=true' '--parent-window-id' '100663302' '--set-selections-file' '/tmp/tmpt1arp8' as user root.
[02:37] <yofel> webbb82_: iirc there was an option to switch between kwin and compiz *somewhere* but I can't find it right now
[02:38] <webbb82_> yofel: ya thats what i want
[02:38] <yofel> duh, found it
[02:38] <boomernang> Hi, using 9.10. How can I find information on ntfs partitions automatically mounted with the fresh install? There are no entries in /etc/fstab.
[02:38] <yofel> webbb82_: system settings -> default applications -> window manager
[02:39] <lronic_> can someone help me  with that >?
[02:39] <orzel> my computer crashed during the final steps of the upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10. ("4minutes left", was configuring some packages). Now it still boots ok and i guess that's mostly it.. is there something smart i could do to be sure no final step is missed ?
[02:39] <yofel> lronic_: tried to install wine with kpackagekit?
[02:39] <webbb82_> yofel: thanks alot
[02:39] <orzel> (actually X crashed, which destroyed the virtual computer i was updating kubuntu in..)
[02:39] <lronic_> how do i do that ?
[02:40] <yofel> lronic_: err... run kpackagekit and search for  wine. then install wine or wine1.2
[02:42] <yofel> orzel: you could run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to make sure no package was left unconfigured
[02:44] <orzel> yofel:  great, that's the kind of stuff i wanted, thx
[02:44] <webbb82_> but if i switch to compiz insted of kwin  what do i use to pick my desktop theme and wiidget theme arent they ran by kwin?
[02:47] <drakon> Hello All =]
[02:47] <drakon> Can anyone help me with a problem?
[02:47] <yofel> !anyone
[02:48] <drakon> Lol okay
[02:48] <drakon> I can't seem to get my broadcom Wireless card drivers to work
[02:49] <drakon> when i push the Activate butten nothing happens
[02:49] <drakon> xD anyone know how to fix my problem?
[02:49] <yofel> ... you're not the first one with that, try to install 'bcmwl-kernel-source' in kpackagekit
[02:50] <drakon> Okay thank
[02:50] <drakon> thanks*
[02:51] <webbb82_> drakon: did you download the package bcmwl-kernel-source  in synaptic then reboot
[02:51] <webbb82_> lol nevermind
[02:51] <lronic_> when i try to run kpackagekit this what it say
[02:51] <lronic_> Failed to run /usr/sbin/synaptic '--hide-main-window' '--non-interactive' '-o' 'Synaptic::closeZvt=true' '--parent-window-id' '100663302' '--set-selections-file' '/tmp/tmpWtv7QM' as user root.
[02:52] <yofel> o.O why would kpackagekit try to run synaptic?
[02:53] <lronic_> hmmmmmm
[02:53] <lronic_> i dont know
[02:54] <webbb82_> does anyone in here have a tips or advice on how to tweek my system so kde4 will run smoother on my netbook  like using xrender or vsynch or anything
[02:55] <lronic_> soo what should i do yofel ?
[02:56] <yofel> lronic_: I can't think of anything now, try if apt-get in a konsole works at least
[02:57] <lronic_> yeah i try apt-get update it work
[03:02] <yofel> well, I'm off to bed, good night folks
[03:04] <boomernang> !flash
[03:09] <lronic_> can i delete file from TMP folder ?
[03:18] <docgnome> So i got the nvidia-glx-96 driver working
[03:18] <docgnome> but it crashes x
[03:18] <docgnome> so working is a relative term heh
[03:19] <docgnome> this is what lspci reports the card as 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NVCrush11 [GeForce2 MX Integrated Graphics] (rev b1)
[03:21] <drakon> Okay those drivers didn't work
[03:22] <drakon> It stopped me fore geting connected to my wired network
[03:22] <drakon> and my wireless network
[03:24] <harrison> Hi, I'm having problems getting music to play in amarok. Initially the driver for my soundcar wasn't running but I followed a guide and have now modprobed and added the driver so that it loads on system startup. When I test the soundcard in system settings it plays the sound, but when I go to use amarok it is silent
[03:24] <harrison> aplay -l says there are no soundcards found
[03:29] <harrison> The soundcard is an external soundcard, I am also running the inbuilt soundcard too. The  alsa driver for the external soundcard is ice1724
[03:30] <harrison> well it's pci if that counts as external
[03:35] <drakon> Hay can I get some help with my wireless drivers, I tried what some one said but it didn't work, can i get a little help, its a broadcom wireless driver
[03:37] <drakon> Hello?
[03:37] <r0dzilla> how do you join a jabber/xmpp chat room in kopete?
[03:37] <harrison> drakon: How do you know it's a problem with the drivers? Could you give a bit more information please
[03:38] <drakon> Its not the drivers
[03:38] <drakon> I can't seem to install them the Hardwaare manager is not working
[03:38] <drakon> When i hit the button to install them it don't do anything
[03:39] <harrison> Does it tell you the name of the packages? If it does you could try installing them yourself
[03:39] <drakon> No, its almost like the butten is broken
[03:40] <drakon> Oh and im using 9.10
[03:42] <shabalabadingda> YOU GUYS USE LINUX CAUSE YOUR POOR
[03:42] <r0dzilla> uhm, no...
[03:43] <harrison> Could you paste bin the output from the following command, drakon: 'sudo lshw'
[03:43] <shabalabadingda> YOU GUYS USE LINUX CAUSE YOUR POOR
[03:43] <shabalabadingda> YOU GUYS USE LINUX CAUSE YOUR POOR
[03:43] <FloodBotK1> shabalabadingda: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:43] <harrison> Could a mod ban that person?
[03:43] <shabalabadingda> YOU GUYS USE LINUX CAUSE YOUR POOR
[03:44] <drakon> Lol you use windows because your a tool xD!
[03:44] <shabalabadingda> WIN7 PWNS LINUX!!!!!!!!!!
[03:44] <drakon> xD window 7 is an update
[03:44] <shabalabadingda> WIN7 FTW
[03:44] <drakon> xD its going to fail
[03:44] <harrison> Where are the mods today?
[03:44] <drakon> o.o don't know
[03:44] <shabalabadingda> in your mom's bed
[03:45] <shabalabadingda> cause YOU GUYS USE LINUX CAUSE YOUR POOR
[03:45] <drakon> this is my first time using the irc
[03:45] <drakon> xD umm okay
[03:45] <drakon> so what
[03:45] <shabalabadingda> YOU GUYS USE LINUX CAUSE YOUR POOR YOU GUYS USE LINUX CAUSE YOUR POOR YOU GUYS USE LINUX CAUSE YOUR POOR YOU GUYS USE LINUX CAUSE YOUR POOR YOU GUYS USE LINUX CAUSE YOUR POOR YOU GUYS USE LINUX CAUSE YOUR POOR YOU GUYS USE LINUX CAUSE YOUR POOR YOU GUYS USE LINUX CAUSE YOUR POOR YOU GUYS USE LINUX CAUSE YOUR POOR YOU GUYS USE LINUX CAUSE YOUR POOR YOU GUYS USE LINUX CAUSE YOUR POOR
[03:45] <drakon> dude your so lame =-= just stfu
[03:45] <shabalabadingda> YOU GUYS USE LINUX CAUSE YOUR POOR YOU GUYS USE LINUX CAUSE YOUR POOR YOU GUYS USE LINUX CAUSE YOUR POOR YOU GUYS USE LINUX CAUSE YOUR POOR YOU GUYS USE LINUX CAUSE YOUR POOR YOU GUYS USE LINUX CAUSE YOUR POOR YOU GUYS USE LINUX CAUSE YOUR POOR YOU GUYS USE LINUX CAUSE YOUR POOR YOU GUYS USE LINUX CAUSE YOUR POOR YOU GUYS USE LINUX CAUSE YOUR POOR YOU GUYS USE LINUX CAUSE YOUR POOR YOU GUYS USE LINUX CAUSE YOUR POOR YOU 
[03:45] <shabalabadingda> YOU GUYS USE LINUX CAUSE YOUR POOR YOU GUYS USE LINUX CAUSE YOUR POOR YOU GUYS USE LINUX CAUSE YOUR POOR YOU GUYS USE LINUX CAUSE YOUR POOR YOU GUYS USE LINUX CAUSE YOUR POOR YOU GUYS USE LINUX CAUSE YOUR POOR YOU GUYS USE LINUX CAUSE YOUR POOR YOU GUYS USE LINUX CAUSE YOUR POOR YOU GUYS USE LINUX CAUSE YOUR POOR YOU GUYS USE LINUX CAUSE YOUR POOR YOU GUYS USE LINUX CAUSE YOUR POOR YOU GUYS USE LINUX CAUSE YOUR POOR YOU 
[03:45] <Roey>  tried installing kubuntu (20091027 dailbuild) 64-bit and on startup it says it cannot find my / (which is on /dev/md1).  Instead, it dumps me to busybox.  I checked out /dev/md* and found that there weren't any listed... I did have the raid45 kernel module loaded (I have / and /boot on softraid1 partitions between two drives).   Anyway, like I said, the /dve/md* devices don't appear to be there at bootup.  How can I
[03:45] <Roey>  fix this?
[03:45] <harrison> I'm sure auto kick will happen soon enough
[03:45] <r0dzilla> looks like someone wants to be swatted with the ban hammer
[03:46] <shabalabadingda> YOU GUYS USE LINUX CAUSE YOUR POOR YOU GUYS USE LINUX CAUSE YOUR POOR YOU GUYS USE LINUX CAUSE YOUR POOR YOU GUYS USE LINUX CAUSE YOUR POOR YOU GUYS USE LINUX CAUSE YOUR POOR YOU GUYS USE LINUX CAUSE YOUR POOR YOU GUYS USE LINUX CAUSE YOUR POOR YOU GUYS USE LINUX CAUSE YOUR POOR YOU GUYS USE LINUX CAUSE YOUR POOR YOU GUYS USE LINUX CAUSE YOUR POOR YOU GUYS USE LINUX CAUSE YOUR POOR YOU GUYS USE LINUX CAUSE YOUR POOR YOU 
[03:46] <shabalabadingda> YOU GUYS USE LINUX CAUSE YOUR POOR YOU GUYS USE LINUX CAUSE YOUR POOR YOU GUYS USE LINUX CAUSE YOUR POOR YOU GUYS USE LINUX CAUSE YOUR POOR YOU GUYS USE LINUX CAUSE YOUR POOR YOU GUYS USE LINUX CAUSE YOUR POOR YOU GUYS USE LINUX CAUSE YOUR POOR YOU GUYS USE LINUX CAUSE YOUR POOR YOU GUYS USE LINUX CAUSE YOUR POOR YOU GUYS USE LINUX CAUSE YOUR POOR YOU GUYS USE LINUX CAUSE YOUR POOR YOU GUYS USE LINUX CAUSE YOUR POOR YOU 
[03:46] <^peter^> oh to be an op
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[03:46] <ScottTesterman> !ops
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[03:47] <Xiella> o_O
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[03:48] <harrison> You can do it FloodBot, ban ban ban
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[03:48] <^peter^> k line is better
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[03:51] <pnaedele> anyone here have trouble booting the 9.10 live/install CD?
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[03:52] <Guest80174> grub2 config -> windows as default... who can help
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[03:53] <pnaedele> edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:53] <pnaedele> move the Windows selection above the Linux selection
[03:53] <shabalabadingda> LINUX SUCKS BALLZ WIN7 FTWLINUX SUCKS BALLZ WIN7 FTWLINUX SUCKS BALLZ WIN7 FTWLINUX SUCKS BALLZ WIN7 FTWLINUX SUCKS BALLZ WIN7 FTWLINUX SUCKS BALLZ WIN7 FTWLINUX SUCKS BALLZ WIN7 FTWLINUX SUCKS BALLZ WIN7 FTWLINUX SUCKS BALLZ WIN7 FTWLINUX SUCKS BALLZ WIN7 FTWLINUX SUCKS BALLZ WIN7 FTWLINUX SUCKS BALLZ WIN7 FTWLINUX SUCKS BALLZ WIN7 FTWLINUX SUCKS BALLZ WIN7 FTWLINUX SUCKS BALLZ WIN7 FTWLINUX SUCKS BALLZ WIN7 FTWLINUX SU
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[03:54] <shabalabadingda> LINUX SUCKS BALLZ WIN7 FTWLINUX SUCKS BALLZ WIN7 FTWLINUX SUCKS BALLZ WIN7 FTWLINUX SUCKS BALLZ WIN7 FTWLINUX SUCKS BALLZ WIN7 FTWLINUX SUCKS BALLZ WIN7 FTWLINUX SUCKS BALLZ WIN7 FTWLINUX SUCKS BALLZ WIN7 FTWLINUX SUCKS BALLZ WIN7 FTWLINUX SUCKS BALLZ WIN7 FTWLINUX SUCKS BALLZ WIN7 FTWLINUX SUCKS BALLZ WIN7 FTWLINUX SUCKS BALLZ WIN7 FTWLINUX SUCKS BALLZ WIN7 FTWLINUX SUCKS BALLZ WIN7 FTWLINUX SUCKS BALLZ WIN7 FTWLINUX SU
[03:54] <yuriy> Guest80174: kgrubeditor? i can only guess it was ported to grub2 though
[03:54] <yuriy> !ops
[03:54] <Roey> thank you
[03:54] <Roey> thank you very much
[03:54] <Guest80174> yes grub2
[03:55] <ScottTesterman> yuriy: I had already tried it.  If somebody has to take the flak for it, point them at me.  :D
[03:58] <drakon> So anyone know why I can't get my wireless drivers to install?
[03:58] <insm0d> does it say anything?
[03:59] <drakon> nope
[03:59] <insm0d> what card do you have?
[03:59] <Guest80174> no kgrubeditor available in my kpackagekit - maybe in grub2 the config files name is grub.conf
[04:00] <drakon> Umm i don't really know lol
[04:00] <drakon> I don't think its my card tho
[04:00] <drakon> its worked untill i moved to 9.10
[04:01] <Guest80174> how to configure grub2 in 9.10 -> set windows as default
[04:02] <boomernang> Hey, using 9.10 and konqueror. Flash video is fine. Kde/mp3 Sound is working fine, however there is no sound in flash. I have an external USB sound card, and I think the reason has to do with 'default' cards.. but for some reason there is no asoundconf anymore. And asoundconf-gtk installs the pulse audio volume controller.. but i cant even open that because it says connection refused.. Any ideas? (I've already tried installing alsa
[04:02] <boomernang> -oss and libflashsupport)
[04:02] <Guest80174> any graphical tool for configuring grub2
[04:04] <insm0d> i can give you a quick and dirty way to make windows install by default
[04:04] <insm0d> er
[04:04] <insm0d> boot by default
[04:04] <insm0d> you have to use a text editor though
[04:05] <Guest80174> vi no problem, but which files and commands
[04:05] <insm0d> poke around /boot/grub and find either menu.lst or grub.cfg and open it up
[04:06] <Guest80174> ok then
[04:06] <insm0d> then just move the windows section ahead of the linux section(s)
[04:06] <insm0d> that's it
[04:06] <Guest80174> ok thanks, i'll try
[04:06] <insm0d> next time you boot grub will read the windows part first and put it ahead
[04:08] <oduda> performance problems when installing karmic koala at intel i865g
[04:14] <hagabaka> anyone getting "process 24068: arguments to dbus_move_error() were incorrect, assertion "(dest) == NULL || !dbus_error_is_set ((dest))" failed in file dbus-errors.c line 278. This is normally a bug in some application using the D-Bus library." with release upgrade when setting up lirc?
[04:19] <linuxguy> ok ok.is it me or is something wrong here?
[04:20] <hagabaka> how many guesses do I get?
[04:21] <linuxguy> over 1500 ppl are not leaching or seeding ver 9.10!!.come on get seeding get it around the world goddamit!!
[04:21] <insm0d> i'm having a lot of problems with the 9.10 i386 iso
[04:22] <insm0d> first time i burned it i got the boot menu but nothing loaded
[04:22] <insm0d> now I'm getting graphical glitches in the install process
[04:22] <insm0d> gonna check the checksum
[04:22] <CupofDice> kde upgrade died on me, sudo failing, but i finished the install with some dpkg command. Anyway, anyone know the command to clean up all the packages that were supposed to be cleaned?
[04:22] <linuxguy> insm0d, right ok.i tried to download that iso to from ireand  600mb file over 2hrs.should be about 30 mins here
[04:23]  * CupofDice is an idiot. forgot about autoremove
[04:23] <linuxguy> CupofDice, tried this apt-get update -f
[04:23] <drakon> Im back lol
[04:23] <CupofDice> ah, thanks linuxguy!
[04:23] <drakon> my mom unpluged my computer
[04:24] <drakon> So my problem is I can't get my computers wireless drivers to activate
[04:24] <linuxguy> CupofDice,  that should update pc and fix any hassle previosly
[04:24] <CupofDice> okay, thanks
[04:25] <drakon> can i have a little help xD if no one is to busy
[04:25] <linuxguy> drakon, xd?
[04:26] <drakon> sorry its a face
[04:26] <drakon> I IM alot
[04:26] <linuxguy> drak you mean xfdc?
[04:27] <drakon> no just disregard the "xd" okay?
[04:27] <memenode> this is a tough choice :S
[04:27] <drakon> So has anyone had the problem i have?
[04:28] <drakon> I can't activate my wireless drivers, when i push the activate button on the hardware manager nothing happens
[04:29] <linuxguy> drakon, have you clicked on the recommended drivers first.then activate?
[04:30] <drakon> umm i don't think i have
[04:30] <drakon> I
[04:30] <drakon> I'll see
[04:30] <linuxguy> drakon, its normally 1st driver in the list then you can click on activate.drivers will or should start to download and install
[04:31] <SpiceMan> I installed karmic RC a while ago, and want to upgrade to the release. what's the "right" way?
[04:31] <SpiceMan> "a while" == several days ago
[04:31] <drakon> thank you Linuxguy
[04:32] <drakon> This is my first try at using Kubuntu
[04:34] <esk4y> kompare or kdiff?
[04:34] <linuxguy> drakon, is it working now the installation?
[04:35] <drakon> Yes
[04:35] <drakon> it installed
[04:35] <drakon> thank you
[04:35] <boomernang> boomern
[04:36] <linuxguy> drakon, no probs.glad i managed to help.im using windows 7 here and trying to get 9.10
[04:36] <drakon> Ahh Okay
[04:36] <drakon> Well I hope it works for you
[04:38] <memenode> I have to say out of the box kubuntu does lack behind GNOME in terms of look and feel..
[04:38] <memenode> but it's a tough choice cause KDE has such great features..
[04:38] <insm0d> i've found kde much more customizable than gnome
[04:38] <insm0d> but
[04:39] <insm0d> i don't know what to think about kde4 yet
[04:39] <linuxguy> insm0d, same here.but 4.3.2 works quite well
[04:39] <memenode> it's more customizable with functionality and layout, but not really so much about the actual look..
[04:40] <memenode> or rather there are not so many good themes as for GNOME
[04:40] <insm0d> i agree memenode
[04:40] <memenode> I mean there are perhaps only a few alternatives to oxygen
[04:40] <memenode> we're kinda stuck with the same metalic look..
[04:41] <insm0d> you could make kde 3 look pretty much however you wanted because there was a lot of stuff out there
[04:41] <memenode> I was just on Ubuntu livecd (now on kubuntu livecd, trying to decide) and I gotta say.. that new karmic gnome theme is just incredible
[04:41] <memenode> ah I don't know.. on KDE 3 there was lots of stuff to install, but it wasn't very easy..
[04:42] <EduardoCintas78> anyone can help me in spanish?
[04:42] <insm0d> yeah some of that stuff did take a little work
[04:42] <memenode> typically I remember having to compile a bunch of stuff if I didn't want to settle for a limited number of options from repositories
[04:43] <hagabaka> I hate having to re-edit configuration files when upgrading packages. why doesn't someone invent a configuration language that keeps track of custom changes and merges with new settings automatically, and allow the packager to finetune behavior?
[04:44] <insm0d> sorry but that would require a complete rewrite of just about every GNU project out there
[04:44] <insm0d> or if you made a wrapper of some sorts, it would probably require too many resources
[04:45] <insm0d> but it is a great idea
[04:45] <modestymaster> Silly question, one I think I already know the answer to: All support for fiesty fawn is done done, right?
[04:46] <modestymaster> I'll have to upgrade manually, from scratch, like?
[04:46] <hagabaka> they just need to change the configuration loading/writing, not rewrite the entire project
[04:47] <matt001> Hi!  Does file sharing work on karmic?
[04:47] <cba123> How can I install amarok 1.4 in Karmic?  I had it syncing perfectly with my Palm Pre in Jaunty with 1.4 but can't manage to get it working under Karmic.
[04:48] <insm0d> what type of a network are you trying to connect to matt001
[04:48] <EduardoCintas78> I can't get filesharing to work on karmik. I have tryed avrything I can think but I still get "You need to be authorized to share folders". I have been upgrading from Alpha5 and waiting that an update fix the filesharing but now it is release and still don't work
[04:48] <RussellAlan> is this the official for Karmic Koala
[04:49] <EduardoCintas78> matt001: isent work for me (updated flom alpha5) but is  working for a friend with a beta install
[04:49] <matt001> insm0d - I went into dolphin, rmb on music folder, selected sharing tab, selected configure file sharing, then entered my password
[04:49] <matt001> then nothing happened
[04:50] <EduardoCintas78> matt001: sound u need to install kdenetwork-filesharing package
[04:51] <EduardoCintas78> matt001: let me know if you can sussefull share a folder
[04:51] <EduardoCintas78> can anyone help me?
[04:53] <EduardoCintas78> I can't get filesharing to work on karmik. I have tryed avrything I can think but I still get "You need to be authorized to share folders". I have been upgrading from Alpha5 and waiting that an update fix the filesharing but now it is release and still don't work
[04:53] <EduardoCintas78> can anyone help me?
[04:54] <Brhad56> I just upgraded the windows on my vista/kubuntu dual boot to windows7.     Everything works great, but the boot loader still says vista.  How can i fix?
[04:54] <ubox> what's the problem?
[04:54] <ubox> edit the grub config file
[04:54] <MsMaco> Brhad56: do you know if its grub1 or grub2?
[04:54] <ubox> one sec
[04:55] <Brhad56> MsMaco: whatever cames with 8.10
[04:55] <MsMaco> ok
[04:55] <Brhad56> er
[04:55] <Brhad56> 9.04
[04:55] <MsMaco>  then edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:55] <MsMaco> 9.10 is the one that does things differently
[04:55] <ubox> thats the one
[04:55] <MsMaco> you can use "kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst"
[04:55] <Brhad56> I'm upgrading to 9.10 right now. It might just fix after the update?
[04:55] <EduardoCintas78> I can't get filesharing to work on karmik. I have tryed avrything I can think but I still get "You need to be authorized to share folders". I have been upgrading from Alpha5 and waiting that an update fix the filesharing but now it is release and still don't work, can anyone help me?
[04:55] <luci3n> i'm just upgraded to 9.10 and one of my partitions cannot be mounted one which is ext4 is ok the other ext3 any ideas??
[04:56] <MsMaco> Brhad56: no it wont. it wont edit that part of the file
[04:56] <MsMaco> Brhad56: its just text htats straight-up typed into a text file
[04:56] <ubox> yea grub won't know you upgraded win
[04:56] <Brhad56> MsMaco: k, I'll try to update the /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:57] <insm0d> I think the 9.10 i386 desktop iso is corrupted
[04:57] <Brhad56> MsMaco: done.  thanks for your help
[04:58] <insm0d> the md5 hash is correct but it won't work properly
[04:58] <MsMaco> Brhad56: no problem
[04:58] <TrueSongMedia> it works for me insm0d
[04:58] <ubox> eduardocintas: what are you sharing via? i will try to replicate
[04:58] <MsMaco> insm0d: define "won't work properly"
[04:58] <insm0d> I've tried several different cds
[04:58] <insm0d> having problems at the boot loader
[04:58] <EduardoCintas78> ubox: right click on dolphin
[04:59] <TrueSongMedia> Have you tried downloading from a different mirror insm0d ?
[04:59] <insm0d> i downloaded from bittorrent and checked the hash
[04:59] <insm0d> it was what was uploaded
[04:59] <TrueSongMedia> Ah
[04:59] <ubox> then what eduardocintas?
[04:59] <EduardoCintas78> ubox: properties > share
[04:59] <TrueSongMedia> Yeah but maybe the server had a corrupted copy
[04:59] <insm0d> the first disc I tried wouldn't load anything
[05:00] <insm0d> that's what I'm beginning to think
[05:00] <EduardoCintas78> ubox: I get "You need to be authorized to share folders"
[05:00] <TrueSongMedia> I would try again downloading from somewhere else
[05:00] <insm0d> the second disc I tried had the graphics messed up
[05:00] <EduardoCintas78> ubox: then I push "configure filesharing"
[05:00] <ubox> i get that as well, perhaps there is a way to set authorization in policykit, let me look
[05:01] <insm0d> now this one doesn't get past the ISOLINUX text
[05:01] <matt001> EduardoCintas78 - thank you - i've just installed - will restart and see you in a minuite
[05:01] <EduardoCintas78> insm0d: I'm translating from spanish so can be diferent strings
[05:01] <matt001> thanks
[05:01] <Brhad56> I'm thinking it would have been faster to download the ISO via a torrent and upgrade from dvd than trying to do the dist upgrade that popped up
[05:01] <EduardoCintas78> matt001: ok ur welcome
[05:02] <insm0d> i'll try downloading from another server, but I'm not really expecting it to work
[05:02] <TrueSongMedia> Hmm
[05:02] <TrueSongMedia> Odd
[05:02] <EduardoCintas78> ubox:I think  the message is proper if your user is not in samba share group
[05:02] <Brhad56> insm0d: the disk you have created, it won't boot to?
[05:02] <TrueSongMedia> I downloaded from ubuntu.com from the default USA server near me and it works great
[05:03] <ubox> oh, let me look into that then
[05:03] <EduardoCintas78> ubox: push the button at bottom of message
[05:03] <TrueSongMedia> *kubuntu.org
[05:03] <EduardoCintas78> ubox: the teorically you can configure the filesharing
[05:03] <TrueSongMedia> Sorry wrong site
[05:04] <insm0d> I haven't had any luck loading a kernel off of any of the 3 cd's I've tried
[05:04] <TrueSongMedia> Haha
[05:04] <TrueSongMedia> Wow
[05:04] <EduardoCintas78> EduardoCintas78: that is that's not working for me
[05:04] <TrueSongMedia> Well don't keep wasting discs. Try downloading again.
[05:05] <Brhad56> insm0d: can you read the disks ok when OS is running, just can't boot to them?
[05:05] <EduardoCintas78> EduardoCintas78: that is that's not working for me
[05:05] <EduardoCintas78> ubox: that is that's not working for me
[05:05] <ubox> it seems, eduardocintas, that i am in the samba share group. what button do you mean? at the bottom of which window
[05:06] <insm0d> I can boot from the disc, and read the contents
[05:06] <insm0d> i think the problem is a file corruption in the bootloader
[05:06] <EduardoCintas78> ubox: right click on a folder into your home > properties sharing
[05:06] <EduardoCintas78> ubox: u will get "You need to be authorized to share folders"
[05:06] <ubox> yes i am getting that far
[05:06] <EduardoCintas78> ubox: whit a button below
[05:07] <ubox> but then what
[05:07] <Brhad56> you can boot to, but the boot loader is jacked?  how is the possible?
[05:07] <EduardoCintas78> ubox: something like "configure file sharing"
[05:07] <EduardoCintas78> ubox: push it and you will see a configuration window
[05:07] <Brhad56> just sayin... well i'm out
[05:08] <ubox> yep, i've clicked that and it just greys out and comes back
[05:08] <EduardoCintas78> ubox: u get it?
[05:08] <ubox> nothing happens
[05:08] <memenode> omg.. "Quick window maximization and tiling by dragging windows to the edge of the screen" from http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.4_Feature_Plan already done
[05:09] <EduardoCintas78> ubox: check if u have samba installed and kdenetwork-filesharing
[05:09] <EduardoCintas78> memenode: that sound great
[05:09] <memenode> yeah it's like what they have in Win7 now
[05:09] <memenode> cool stuff
[05:10] <Brhad56> word
[05:10] <ubox> eduardocintas: i am just getting those now :)
[05:10] <EduardoCintas78> ubox: k I wait
[05:11] <EduardoCintas78> ubox: many tanks 4 ur time
[05:11] <ubox> no problem :) i would like to share files as well, haven't tried yet though
[05:11] <kejomac> my firefox icon in the toolbar will not start the application. i have to use the terminal to start firefox. any suggestions?
[05:11] <EduardoCintas78> ubox: how have u installed karmik?
[05:12] <MaartenLx> whoa, Kubuntu has come a long way since I last used it! 9.10 looks pretty good!
[05:12] <EduardoCintas78> MaartenLx: yea a couple off iritatng bugs but is really good
[05:13] <SpiceMan> which bugs?
[05:13] <ubox> slowly updated through beta until full release, started fresh with beta though
[05:13] <EduardoCintas78> can't share files
[05:13] <ubox> so i seem to have sharing now
[05:13] <EduardoCintas78> but can be my install
[05:13] <SpiceMan> share files?
[05:14] <EduardoCintas78> yes
[05:14] <SpiceMan> over what?
[05:14] <EduardoCintas78> whit samba throught dolpin
[05:14] <MaartenLx> Just installed it on my laptop as the third OS. Actually using the Windows 7 bootloader (EasyBCD to edit) instead of Grub (which is still loaded onto the linux boot partition) - looks really smooth and nice.
[05:14] <SpiceMan> I see
[05:14]  * SpiceMan hasn't used cifs for about 5 years
[05:15] <ubox> could be eduardocintas, i have shared a folder over my home network using the configure button found in properties > share. i chose samba (windows) check box
[05:15] <MaartenLx> Now I just need to get the proprietary ati driver and compiz going
[05:15] <EduardoCintas78> I havent used windows in the last 2 moths
[05:15] <EduardoCintas78> ubox: u have sucess?
[05:15] <ubox> my g/f has a kubuntu laptop as well and it shows up in her network > samba > xxx > folder i shared
[05:15] <ubox> yes i have sucess :)
[05:15] <linuxguy> is hoping i get a 1280x1024 res from 9.10.if not kubuntu will be dropped again.all other distros support it and kubuntu distros to 8.04 worked great.i have new card 1gb nvidia 9600gt and decent monitor
[05:16] <ubox> just kdenetwork-filesharing and samba needed installed
[05:16] <EduardoCintas78> ubox: I have both and tryed reinstalling both
[05:16] <ubox> that is strange, do you get the configuration dialog when you click the button?
[05:16] <kejomac> anybody able to help me figure out why firefox will not launch from the toolbar shortcut? have to use the terminal. no icon shows up in the applications folder either???
[05:17] <MaartenLx> why wouldn't kubuntu support 1280x1024? I installed kubuntu 7 and 8 in the past on my desktop and it has that resolution no prob.
[05:17] <ubox> maartenlx: mine is at 1280 now
[05:17] <ubox> it is the default
[05:17] <ubox> on my display
[05:17] <EduardoCintas78> ubox: yes but don't bother what I select the message is still the same
[05:17] <MaartenLx> yeah... its 1440x900 here, widescreen laptop
[05:18] <ubox> yes it does stay that way eduardocintas, i think it is just a reminder to users who may not have permissions
[05:18] <ubox> do you have sucess as well?
[05:18] <EduardoCintas78> ubox: can u go system setings > advanced samba
[05:18] <ubox> yes, one second
[05:18] <linuxguy> MaartenLx, i know it should but its been missing for a while now.trying using modelines hasnt worked either nor has the the nvidia settings.but ive not tried downloading or installing the nvidia driver from nvidia site
[05:19] <EduardoCintas78> ubox: no I cant share folder i have wees looking  for a solutin
[05:19] <ubox> what should i look for eduardocintas?
[05:19] <EduardoCintas78> ubox: try to add a user to "samba users"
[05:20] <ubox> it asks for a password to be set
[05:20] <EduardoCintas78> ubox: the acept and open back samba config
[05:20] <ubox> i do not have any in there though
[05:20] <EduardoCintas78> ubox: put anything
[05:21] <EduardoCintas78> ubox: I only want to know if the config is persistent
[05:22] <ubox> no, they are missing after i back out then return
[05:22] <ubox> but it is interesting that i can share
[05:22] <EduardoCintas78> ubox: ok I want to know if the probles are related
[05:22] <EduardoCintas78> ubox: can u let me know all samba config?
[05:23] <ubox> it seems that they are not, i can set more shares(folders) and they stay set
[05:24] <EduardoCintas78> ubox: ok are u using "share" based security. Right?
[05:24] <ubox> no, user
[05:24] <EduardoCintas78> ubox: ok
[05:25] <EduardoCintas78> ubox: what is your wins config?
[05:26] <ubox> wins?
[05:26] <insm0d> i think there really is a corrupted copy of the 386 iso on the servers
[05:27] <insm0d> going to try to boot from USB stick
[05:27] <EduardoCintas78> ubox: yes into samba > advanced
[05:27] <ubox> deactivate
[05:28] <EduardoCintas78> ubox: I don't know how to translate "Ordenes" but is the 3rd item from bottom to top into advanced
[05:29] <EduardoCintas78> ubox: It will be something like "orders" or "commands"
[05:30] <ubox> tuning
[05:30] <ubox> all but fourth down are checked, for the check boxes
[05:30] <EduardoCintas78> ubox: no
[05:31] <EduardoCintas78> ubox: i mean a place when u can put personalized commands to samba
[05:31] <EduardoCintas78> ubox: there ara 8 textareas
[05:31] <EduardoCintas78> ubox: are*
[05:32] <EduardoCintas78> ubox: the item below LDAP
[05:32] <esk4y> previously I used finch as a CLI chat client for google talk; don't want to install all the gnome dependencies; any recommendations?
[05:32] <ubox> can you tell me what is in the bottom one?
[05:33] <ubox> mine is /usr/share/samba/panic-action %d
[05:33] <EduardoCintas78> ubox: yes
[05:33] <EduardoCintas78> ubox: mine too
[05:34] <EduardoCintas78> ubox: I have 7th first blank
[05:34] <EduardoCintas78> ubox: u?
[05:36]  * MaartenLx is apt-getting compiz :)
[05:37] <EduardoCintas78> ubox: are u still here?
[05:37] <MaartenLx> gonna have to get used to linux again, haven't used it since 2008 or so....
[05:37] <EduardoCintas78> MaartenLx: I havent used it from 1997
[05:38] <MaartenLx> heh
[05:38] <artophats> hey everyone. I cannot install any new packages in my fresh Kubuntu 9.10 install. The KDE Firefox installer brings up a message that says "Requested packages are already installed." Attempting to install anything from the terminal results in a "E: Package _________ has no installation candidate" error. what's going on?
[05:38] <EduardoCintas78> MaartenLx: now I can do evryting I need
[05:39] <MaartenLx> I'm only a casual linux user anyways, I hate rebooting so I never put it on my desktop because of gaming..... but now that I have a decent dual core laptop with 4 Gb of ram that I reboot all the time I decided it is time for a linux partition again.
[05:39] <EduardoCintas78> MaartenLx: only missing a flash editor
[05:39] <MaartenLx> flash.... hmmmm.... did they ever fix that for x64 versions of linux?
[05:40] <MaartenLx> I guess i'll find out soon enough :P
[05:40] <EduardoCintas78> MaartenLx: player works ok, but I need an authoring tool
[05:40] <MaartenLx> right
[05:41] <EduardoCintas78> ubox: don't let me alone
[05:41] <EduardoCintas78> MaartenLx: can u share folders?
[05:43] <MaartenLx> EduardoCintas78: Haven't tried yet. I do know I had trouble with that before, especially since Windows Vista and above use 128 bit encryption on windows networking as opposed to 56 bit encryption before..... I am just going to presume that that has been resolved a long time ago and mess with it later :P
[05:43] <MaartenLx> reboot time, compiz installed.
[05:44] <EduardoCintas78> anyone can share folders?
[05:48] <artophats> hey everyone. I cannot install any new packages in my fresh Kubuntu 9.10 install. The KDE Firefox installer brings up a message that says "Requested packages are already installed." Attempting to install anything from the terminal results in a "E: Package _________ has no installation candidate" error. what's going on?
[05:48] <EduardoCintas78> artophats: what version of firefox u have installed?
[05:49] <artophats> EduardoCintas78: I don't -- Firefox doesn't come installed on the latest release.
[05:50] <EduardoCintas78> artophats: but your system state that it is istalles
[05:51] <EduardoCintas78> artophats: that weird
[05:51] <artophats> EduardoCintas78: Yeah. When I try to install the MP3 plugins konquerer recommended, it also told me they were already installed, but they weren't
[05:52] <EduardoCintas78> artophats: try apt-get clean
[05:52] <EduardoCintas78> artophats: apt-get update
[05:52] <EduardoCintas78> artophats: to refresh packages list
[05:52] <artophats> EduardoCintas78: which one? apt-get clean or apt-get update?
[05:53] <EduardoCintas78> artophats: both
[05:54] <boomernang> Hi, I've recently installed 9.10. It's great except I can't get sound in flash videos!(the videos work fine)! MP3 & KDE sounds work fine aswell so it's not a driver issue atleast.. Just need to be pointed in right direction please! I've tried installing alsa-oss and libflashsupport, both not giving me sound after restarting browser.. Any ideas??
[05:54] <EduardoCintas78> boomernang: I have te same isue
[05:54] <EduardoCintas78> boomernang: try open the mixer
[05:54] <boomernang> EduardoCintas78: I can't open KMIX or the pulse audio volume controller.. my soundcard is USB external
[05:54] <EduardoCintas78> boomernang: I used to have 1 line volumen to low
[05:55] <EduardoCintas78> boomernang: and u can't controll the volume at all from kde?
[05:56] <boomernang> im guessing alsa has no elements for my soundcard to be controlled via software.. but thats not a problem.. What I think might be happening is something to do with default cards with alsa
[05:56] <EduardoCintas78> boomernang: try alsamix from  konsole
[05:57] <boomernang> EduardoCintas78: no such command
[05:57] <EduardoCintas78> boomernang: alsamixer sry
[05:58] <boomernang> EduardoCintas78: alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory
[05:58] <boomernang> EduardoCintas78: that's fine. I'm 99% sure alsa can't control my soundcard via software.. I've got volume controls on the unit it self
[05:59] <EduardoCintas78> boomernang: flash player is using a separate chanel of rest of the system in my case
[06:00] <EduardoCintas78> boomernang: named PCM in kmix
[06:00] <EduardoCintas78> boomernang: I can't help u any further
[06:01] <EduardoCintas78> boomernang: u haven't a internal to test?
[06:01] <boomernang> EduardoCintas78: ah ok.. so you got it working now?               im really annoyed because i had sound working in 9.04 somehow without too much mucking around
[06:02] <EduardoCintas78> boomernang: yes I only put high all volumes on kmix
[06:02] <EduardoCintas78> boomernang: and now works well
[06:03] <EduardoCintas78> boomernang: can u share folders?
[06:03] <boomernang> yeah ive got internal realtek, but it is disabled in bios. will give that a try now...  the problem is I installed kubuntu with my midi keyboard plugged in.. that uses snd-usb-audio as well and it is a higher priority in /proc/asound/cards
[06:03] <EduardoCintas78> EduardoCintas78: from dolphin?
[06:04] <boomernang> EduardoCintas78: did you install any other codecs apart from flash-installer?
[06:04] <EduardoCintas78> boomernang: not manually
[06:05] <EduardoCintas78> boomernang: could be something auto installeed
[06:05] <boomernang> EduardoCintas78: just the pop up for mp3 and stuff when you open up konqueror?
[06:05] <EduardoCintas78> boomernang: yes
[06:05] <EduardoCintas78> boomernang: can u share folders?
[06:06] <boomernang> EduardoCintas78: yeah!
[06:06] <EduardoCintas78> boomernang: can u help me please to check my config?
[06:06] <EduardoCintas78> boomernang: I trying to share folder for weeks
[06:07] <EduardoCintas78> boomernang: but no sucess
[06:07] <boomernang> EduardoCintas78: give me 5-10mins, just gonna get this organised and ill come back and PM you
[06:07] <EduardoCintas78> ok
[06:32] <mark_> Would anyone be able to point me in the direction of enabling a preview of the applications located in the taskbar? I presume it has something to do with your theme and / or desktop effects?
[06:34] <mark_> Talking about themes, I noticed in Desktop Settings, that when I click on new theme and install new themes, they do not then appear as an option to choose from
[06:35] <RussellAlan> oh@koh-buntu:~$ sudo apt-get install kvirc
[06:35] <RussellAlan> [sudo] password for koh:
[06:35] <RussellAlan> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[06:35] <RussellAlan> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[06:35] <FloodBotK1> RussellAlan: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:35] <RussellAlan> What resource is using it?
[06:35] <RussellAlan> how can I resolve this?
[06:37] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[06:37] <mark_> found it! :)
[07:03] <captain_haddock> just upgraded to karmic and can't get past the login screen.. known issue?
[07:05] <anthony__> hello im running kubunt 9.10 and im havin trouble with guildwars. i have it installed and it runs but only getting 7 fps..
[07:06] <anthony__> any suggestions?
[07:07] <anthony__> ugh
[07:07] <anthony__> ive gotten this far with out any help...
[07:08] <anthony__> so if some 1 could help me before i rage and destroy my cpu it would be nice
[07:08] <anthony__> FUCK ATLEAST WITH WINDOWS I GET A GOD DAMN ANSWER!!!
[07:09] <anthony__> LINUX SUCKS
[07:09] <anthony__> LINUX SUCKS
[07:09] <FloodBotK1> anthony__: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:09] <anthony__> LINUX SUCKS
[07:09] <anthony__> LINUX SUCKS
[07:11] <captain_haddock> idiot
[07:16] <amik> no, frustrated user. he was open-minded enough to try something different, and it sucked for his purposes, and couldn't get any assistance.
[07:32] <hagabaka> weeeee
[07:36] <noaXess> good morning
[07:36] <amik> howdy
[07:36] <noaXess> is a dfault karmic installation based on ext4 fs? what if i upgrade from 9.04 with a ext3.. any problems?
[07:37] <amik> I think I've seen the installer use ext4 by default, yes
[07:38] <amik> but it still supports ext3 of course - u can upgrade with no problem
[07:38] <amik> what changed is only the default for newly created partitions
[07:45] <amik> is anyone here familiar with the kde bootup sequence?
[07:47] <Tm_T> asku: what about it?
[07:47] <Tm_T> moi asku
[07:47] <amik> where does plasma get started?
[07:47] <asku> mo
[07:48] <Tm_T> asku: I think it's in startkde script, but not 100 % sure
[07:48] <amik> asku is not here, and I'm the one asking :-)
[07:48] <amik> I don't see it there...
[07:49] <Tm_T> amik: ah, sorry, was tabfill failure
[07:49] <amik> I managed to track down how startkde is called, but don't see any relevant mention of plasma in the script
[07:50] <Tm_T> amik: what's the problem?
[07:51] <amik> lack of knowledge? ;-)
[07:51] <Tm_T> amik: I mean, why you need to find where plasma is launched?
[07:51] <amik> I'm trying to figure out if/how to make netbook and desktop appear as options in the login menu
[07:51] <Tm_T> amik: it's option in systemsettings, isn't that enough?
[07:52] <amik> which option?
[07:52] <contrast> Greets, everyone.
[07:52] <Tm_T> amik: systemsettings -> Desktop -> Workspace
[07:53] <contrast> Anyone know why Shoutcast wouldn't be showing up in Amarok?
[07:55] <amik> Tm_T: don't see any Workspace under Desktop
[07:55] <Tm_T> amik: hmmm, which KDE version you have?
[07:55] <amik> karmic
[07:55] <Tm_T> oh
[07:55] <Tm_T> hmmmm, then I don't know, sorry
[07:55] <amik> and I don't see it in jaunty either
[07:56] <contrast> Arg, nevermind. Just saw that it's due to Shoutcast's b.s. licensing. : \
[07:57] <RussellAlan> anyone want to assist with a vnc server on kubuntu?
[07:57] <RussellAlan> i did a install off tightvnc "sudo apt-get install tightvncserver"
[07:57] <amik> RussellAlan: *want* or *can* ? :-)
[07:57] <RussellAlan> http://paste.ubuntu.com/304871/
[07:58] <amik> what's the problem? missing docs warning?
[07:59] <amik> Tm_T: oops, u were asking about kde version... it's 4.3.2 on both karmic and jaunty
[08:00] <RussellAlan> I'm not sure
[08:00] <RussellAlan> I haven't setup a vnc server on linux before, and im tired, need a guide ;-)
[08:00] <RussellAlan> Did that show a full install
[08:01] <amik> RussellAlan: as the author of vnc2go, I had my share of dealing with vnc... on kubuntu, it always sucked. the built in ones have been broken for a few releases...
[08:01] <amik> although, the current one sorta works
[08:01] <RussellAlan> current one?
[08:01] <RussellAlan> is there a preinstalled?
[08:01] <RussellAlan> just a remote desktop?
[08:02] <amik> if it's just for simple light use/testing, u can use it
[08:02] <amik> yep, it's in the menus, called krfb (desktop sharing)
[08:02] <amik> it's a couple of checkboxes away...
[08:02] <RussellAlan> ahh i see it.
[08:03] <amik> if u'r tired and not in the mood for messing with configurations, try using that first
[08:05] <RussellAlan> yeah, well it's not jus tbeing tired =D it is that someone is on that machine, a non linux female
[08:05] <RussellAlan> sitting next to me and yes im tired, had knee surgery on tuesday =P
[08:05] <amik> note than in linux vnc's will open a new session when connecting, unless u configure it to connect to an existing session... that's where icky configurations start popping up
[08:11] <amik> Tm_T: I see in the Desktop Theme Details (as opposed to Desktop) configuration applet, there's a drop down for themes with Air, Oxygen, and Air for netbooks - is that what u were referring to? too bad the apply button is always grayed out
[08:12] <RussellAlan> yeah that works, but i'd like a constant server running, can i configure kfrb to do that?
[08:13] <amik> what do u mean by constant?
[08:13] <RussellAlan> as in a server that stays open, no invitation needed, i guess ill configure it tomorrow
[08:13] <amik> there's a checkbox for not requiring invitations
[08:16] <memenode> damn
[08:16] <memenode> I opted for ubuntu and installed it but now I'm second guessing it and am tempted to install kubuntu after all
[08:17] <asrafel> hi all
[08:17] <amik> hi
[08:17] <amik> memenode: asserting ur choice is a good thing :-)
[08:18] <RussellAlan> hmm i dont like that program
[08:18] <RussellAlan> maybe because the system is running 9.10
[08:18] <RussellAlan> and not up to par.
[08:18] <brunosimoes> i m tried to run a webstart javaws http://...
[08:18] <brunosimoes> but nothing happends
[08:18] <amik> RussellAlan: it's simplistic and a bit annoying, but does the basic job
[08:21] <RussellAlan> yeah,
[08:21] <RussellAlan> but
[08:22] <RussellAlan> didn't you say there was a more effective yet more configuration required app?
[08:22] <brunosimoes> i prefer when i have errors
[08:22] <amik> there are various, tightvnc is good too
[08:23] <RussellAlan> well i installed tightvnc, unless that paste that i showed you earlier said otherwise.
[08:23] <RussellAlan> want to help me set it up?
[08:23] <RussellAlan> or "can" you help me?
[08:23] <RussellAlan> =D
[08:23] <amik> I don't remember it by heart, there's probably a tutorial out there for how to set it up...
[08:24] <amik> basically setting up passwords, and possibly an X setting or two
[08:24] <RussellAlan> yeah
[08:24] <RussellAlan> well thanks man, cheers
[08:25] <amik> cheers, and easy recovery :-)
[08:25]  * RussellAlan gives up the idea of vnc due to ... well using the os by itself.
[08:33] <brunosimoes> anyone knows where is the Java control painel ?
[08:34] <amik> brunosimoes: I don't remember seeing one...
[08:35] <brunosimoes> so that may be the reason
[08:35] <Squarc> sooo, what are the reactions about the 9.10 upgrades?
[08:36] <amik> brunosimoes: it doesn't mean it's not available, just that I didn't see it :-)
[08:36] <Mamarok> Squarc: that's more a question for the discussion channel: #kubuntu-offtopic
[08:37] <Squarc> okies :)
[08:37] <amik> Mamarok: why is discussing kubuntu 9.01 upgrades off-topic? I thought that was for taking offline discussions on cats, windows, earplugs...
[08:38] <MidnightAssassin> Hai guys
[08:38] <Mamarok> amik: because this is a support channel, not a discussion channel
[08:39] <Ramblurr> in 9.10, kpackagekit  cannot download any packages.. it complains that it cannot connect to the internet: http://imagebin.ca/view/L-Y7zi9.html
[08:39] <Mamarok> amik: the -offtopic is for all discussions about Kubuntu that are not support
[08:39] <Ramblurr> it looks like it is trying to use some proxy
[08:39] <Mamarok> hi Ramblurr
[08:39] <Squarc> Mamarok: so I should say: Can anyone help me? by telling how he/she feels about the new 9.10 upgrade?
[08:39] <amik> Mamarok: ah, ok
[08:39] <Ramblurr> Mamarok: 'lo :-)
[08:39] <Mamarok> Squarc: no, and now you are getting offtopic :)
[08:40] <Mamarok> Ramblurr: this might be a problem with the mirror, try changing the mirror server you use
[08:40] <amik> Ramblurr: why is it looking at localhost? is ur network up and running?
[08:41] <Mamarok> since there still is a quite heavy load on those servers right now
[08:41] <Mamarok> amik: I don't think he would be asking here if it weren't
[08:42] <amik> Mamarok: his imagebin shows it's looking for us.archive.ubuntu.com at 127.0.0.1... maybe he's on a different machine :-)
[08:42] <Ramblurr> amik: yes, its working fine. aptitude from the cli works fine
[08:43] <amik> or maybe he didn't have network setup when first ran kpackagekit and it cached the wrong address?
[08:43] <amik> maybe try changing the mirror it uses (and possibly changing back later)?
[08:44] <Mamarok> amik: guess what I suggested earlier...
[08:45] <amik> I think I'm becoming off-topic :'-(
[08:47] <sysadmin> eello
[08:47] <Guest33591> ???
[08:47] <Mamarok> hi Guest33591
[08:47] <Mamarok> you need a unique nick, and this one is already taken
[08:47] <Guest33591> aaahhh
[08:49] <amik> brunosimoes: the java control panel is in the k menu
[08:49] <bolshevikgypsy> hey fellas im experiencing some problems with kopete
[08:49] <bolshevikgypsy> im new to kde
[08:49] <Mamarok> bolshevikgypsy: what problems?
[08:49] <Freyr> hi there
[08:49] <bolshevikgypsy> ive just switched from windows seven. Well kopete doesnt sign at all
[08:49] <Freyr> what is akonadi server ?
[08:50] <amik> brunosimoes: the control panel and policy under settings, and webstart under internet
[08:50] <amik> Ramblurr: any progress?
[08:50] <bolshevikgypsy> ive entered my email and password it says that its signing in but it doesnt show anything at all. So i downloaded pidgin and it works just fine with msn protocol. I would rather use kopete to experience kde's integrated apps
[08:50] <Freyr> and why starts when konversation is started ?
[08:50] <bolshevikgypsy> hey freyer
[08:51] <giovanni> hi
[08:52] <bolshevikgypsy> any clues on how to fix this issue
[08:52] <bolshevikgypsy> ./
[08:52] <bolshevikgypsy> im using jaunty jackalope btw
[08:54] <brunosimoes> amik: i only have openJDK webstart there. it contains only a certificates window
[08:55] <Mamarok> bolshevikgypsy: I think for now you will need Pidgin for msn, seems it doesn't work with kopete yet
[08:56] <amik> brunosimoes: oh, I check Sun JDK
[08:56] <bolshevikgypsy> yeah i was thinking of dicarding it
[08:56] <bolshevikgypsy> in my side of the globe people mostly use msn
[08:56] <bolshevikgypsy> *on
[08:57] <bolshevikgypsy> what really induced me to find out if i can fix this is the need to integrate apps with kontact(which i am still exploring) can kontact also integrate and extract contact lists from pidgin
[08:57] <amik> bolshevikgypsy: I like pidgin also because I can use the same app on both linux and windows (same with firefox, thunderbird...) - I find it convenient
[09:03] <bolshevikgypsy> yeah but i want to learn to use kontact so what i primarily wished to find out was whether pidgin can be integrated with kontact like kopete can be and extract your contact lists from it?
[09:04] <danielsp> in gparted, can't see my partitions‎ anymore! but fdisk -l  shows them all (after resizing my Partions)
[09:06] <jack_spratt> I just upgraded to karmic, now i boot to cli login with X error 'no screens found. Can someone help me config X please, I don't care if its just to set it to use vesa but I REALLY need my system back if possible
[09:06] <idyllic> danielsp: did you do your partition table?
[09:06] <danielsp> I don't know that
[09:07] <danielsp> My problem is exxact like  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=537591
[09:07] <Freyr> jack_spratt: reinstall your drivers for the video card
[09:07] <jack_spratt> Freyr: how?
[09:07] <amik> jack_spratt: and/or see if u have any xorg.conf backups u can use (some apps that change it make a backup first)
[09:07] <jack_spratt> Freyr: I'm using the onboard video on this computer
[09:09] <Freyr> jack_spratt: try to do what amik suggested
[09:09] <jack_spratt> Freyr: Can't I just set it to use VESA for now? I just need it back fast
[09:10] <Tm_T> bolshevikgypsy: no, pidgin doesn't talkthe way Kontact understands
[09:10] <amik> jack_spratt: it would be fastest and easiest if there's a backup configuration. just copy the file and reboot.
[09:11] <Mamarok> bolshevikgypsy: I don't know if you can export those contacts to another format, maybe
[09:11] <jack_spratt> amik: there is xorg.conf.dist-upgrade 200910292310
[09:12] <jack_spratt> amik: thats the only backup that I can see
[09:12] <jack_spratt> amik: shall I rename and use that one?
[09:12] <amik> jack_spratt: make a backup copy of the current xorg.conf (just in case), then copy yesterday's backup over xorg.conf and reboot
[09:13] <amik> jack_spratt: (better to always keep the copies, and not just rename or overwrite)
[09:16] <jack_spratt> amik: OK done that, backed up the current one to .old, coped the dist-upgrade backup to xorg.conf, now rebooting. I don't think it'll work but I hope so
[09:17] <bolshevikgypsy> ok thank you
[09:18] <jack_spratt> amik: yup same error: fatal server error: no screens found ........ giving up. xinit: no such file or directory (errorno 2): unable to connect to X server, xinit: No such process (errorno 3): server error
[09:20] <amik> jack_spratt: u can try maybe 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' or something like that
[09:20] <kwyjibo> trying to get kubuntu installed via wubi. this is the most frustrating thing i have ever encountered. crash crash crash. infinite install loop. wipe my install... crash. repeat.
[09:21] <amik> kwyjibo: and I was hoping they fixed this in karmic... I never got a normal wubi install with jaunty :-(
[09:21] <jack_spratt> amik: that command just gives a newline, no output at all
[09:22] <jack_spratt> amik: maybe x is not installed or not properly installed???
[09:22] <kwyjibo> amik: ouch
[09:23] <amik> jack_spratt: I'm afraid I'm not enough of an expert... can anyone else join in?
[09:23] <kwyjibo> all i want to do is see kwin's desktop compositing, something that virtualbox won't do
[09:24] <MinusSeven> i just installed kubuntu 9.10
[09:24] <MinusSeven> I'm disappointed that it doesn't have wireless capability
[09:24] <jonathan__> MinusSeven: thats not true it does
[09:24] <jonathan__> im on karmic and have been since alpha 5
[09:24] <jonathan__> MinusSeven: what kind of wifi card do you have?
[09:24] <MinusSeven> i enabled it, but it doesn't try connecting
[09:24] <MinusSeven> netgear
[09:25] <jonathan__> MinusSeven: the plasma-widget-network-manager?
[09:25] <Fusion> hello, can i ask a question about graphic card drivers?
[09:25] <jonathan__> !ask | Fusion
 You have ur /var/log/Xorg.0.log on pastebin?
[09:25] <Martin-KangBlom> hi, short question: what is the md5sum of the kubuntu karmic x64 dvd?
[09:25] <MinusSeven> yep
[09:25] <jonathan__> MinusSeven: try replace that and install wicd instead
[09:25] <jonathan__> !wicd | MinusSeven
[09:25] <hinkman> hi! yesterday i upgraded my kubuntu to karmic. during the install kdesudo crashed and the upgrade tool stalled. thus, i killed it. apt-get -f install or dpkg --configure -a wasn't able to fix all broken packages. so, i tried to run dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/*. after a while, all packages installed. :-) do i have a fully working karmic now, or do i have to run some post install scripts?
[09:25] <jonathan__> !info wicd | MinusSeven
[09:25] <Fusion> Ok, will Ati radeon X1200 Work on Kubuntu?
[09:25] <kwyjibo> !info wubi
[09:25] <yofel> Martin-KangBlom: the md5sum is available on the download server
[09:26] <jonathan__> !wubi | kwyjibo
[09:26] <MinusSeven> how do I get wicd?
[09:27] <jack_spratt> idyllic: well that machine isn't connected to the internet, Im trying to get it wirelessly connected, then ill have to install lynx, and assuming that i can figure out how to operate it ill have to use it to paste the contents into pastebin for you
[09:27] <MinusSeven> must be installed already
[09:27] <kwyjibo> i don't suppose anyone knows how to avoid the infinite install loop when trying kubuntu via wubi?
[09:27] <kwyjibo> it crashes at "configuring apt"
[09:27] <jonathan__> MinusSeven: you can use the command line command sudo apt-get install wicd which will uninstall the plasma-widget-network-manager
[09:27] <yofel> hinkman: hm... can check if the lines in your /etc/apt/sources.list contain karimic and not jaunty? Other than that just running 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' to make sure should be fine.
[09:27] <Martin-KangBlom> yofel| not for the dvd
[09:27] <MarcoPau> one question about wicd: do we need to disable networkmanager and erase all settings in /etc/network/interfaces?
[09:28] <yofel> Martin-KangBlom: where did you get the dvd from?
[09:28] <MinusSeven> ok then, I'll try that, hopefully it works without the internet
[09:28] <jonathan__> MarcoPau: its automatically installed the plasma-widget-network-manager
[09:28] <MinusSeven> brb
[09:28] <Martin-KangBlom> yofel: from torrent
 How about running startx ? does it spit out anything?
[09:28] <Fusion> @ kwyjibo. is this problem for 64 bit version?
[09:28] <yofel> Martin-KangBlom: iirc torrents check the file hashes themselves so you should have a correct file.
[09:29] <hinkman> yofel: contains karmic, update and dist-upgrade worked successfully
[09:29] <yofel> hinkman: then you should be fine
[09:29] <jonathan__> MinusSeven: you need to be connected to the net to pull the package from repos
[09:29] <hinkman> thanks :-)
[09:29] <MarcoPau> jonathan__: only in karmic or also in jaunty? I still have to upgrade
[09:29] <jack_spratt> idyllic: yes: fatal server error: no screens found ........ giving up. xinit: no such file or directory (errorno 2): unable to connect to X server, xinit: No such process (errorno 3): server error
[09:29] <kwyjibo> Fusion: oh. i hadn't thought about it. it's i386 version... but my hardware is i7
 try run`  X -configure `
[09:30] <jonathan__> MarcoPau: both i know jaunty for sure but not sure about karmic as the plasma widget nm works fine foe me
[09:30] <kwyjibo> fusion: do you think it will be smoother if i try x64 installer?
[09:30] <jack_spratt> idyllic: sudo?
[09:30] <Fusion> Wow! Well i'm downloading the 64  bit version right now and i want to install via wubi!
[09:31] <amik> kwyjibo: running i386 on either hardware should work fine. it's the 64 version (only possible on 64 hardware) that may have a bit more issues...
[09:31] <idyllic> jack_spratt: su or sudo -i first then run X -configure
[09:31] <Mamarok> Fusion: be aware that Wubi is slow, so if you have free space on your harddisk you should consider installing it on a separate partition
[09:31] <MarcoPau> jonathan__: how do you launch it?
[09:31] <Fusion> @ kwyjibo well i think the X64 version operates much better on i7
[09:32] <jonathan__> MarcoPau: it should show up under the internet section and you can run it from there
[09:32] <Ev0luti0n_> OMAGAD
[09:32] <Ev0luti0n_> the new version rocks so much
[09:32] <Mamarok> amik: what are you talking about, why should the 64bit version have issues?
[09:32] <Ev0luti0n_> i am donating!
[09:32] <Fusion> kwyjibo: is 15 Gb free space enough?
[09:32] <kwyjibo> Fusion: i'm downloading it now.
[09:32] <Ev0luti0n_> B E A U T I F U L!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[09:32] <kwyjibo> Fusion: i would hope so, but what do i know?
[09:32] <Ev0luti0n_> 9.10 FTW
[09:32] <Mamarok> Fusion: yes, that should be enough, just little space for your data
[09:33] <jack_spratt> idyllic: hmm ok, (EE) open /dev/fb0: no such file or directory, Backtrace.... Saw signal 11. Server aborting...Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[09:33] <Mamarok> Ev0luti0n_: please don't shout
[09:33] <jonathan__> Ev0luti0n_: :) i agree
[09:33] <Ev0luti0n_> Mamarok: don't shout? there is a reason to shout !!!!!!!!!
[09:33] <Ev0luti0n_> :D
[09:33] <kwyjibo> Mamarok: as far as using wubi at all, it's ideal for a Windows user who is considering switching, but wants to try it out safely. the speed hit is fine to me.
[09:33] <Ev0luti0n_> i feel like jumping in fact
[09:33] <Mamarok> Ev0luti0n_: not at all, it's not allowed here, so please respect that, support only
[09:34] <MinusSeven> i'm back
[09:34] <MinusSeven> said it couldn't find package wicd
[09:34] <Ev0luti0n_> kay kay.....
[09:34] <Fusion> kwyjibo: what about drivers?
[09:34] <amik> Mamarok: because it does for me, and a couple other ppl complained as much yesterday. but it shouldn't matter much if he just wants to see how compositing looks...
[09:34] <Mamarok> kwyjibo: trying out safely is done with the live CD, Wubi is just awfully slow
[09:34] <jack_spratt> idyllic: looks like a fresh install is needed  }:'(
[09:34] <jack_spratt> idyllic: what do you think?
[09:34] <Mamarok> amik: I run Karmic 64bit since quite some time, never had any problems
[09:34] <Fusion> Will Ati radeon X1200 work on kubuntu X64 under any circumstances?
[09:34] <kwyjibo> Fusion: should be able to get them like a normal install. it just stores data in its virtual hard drive image
[09:34] <amik> Mamarok: I'm happy for u :-)
[09:34] <idyllic> jack_spratt: have u tried vesa driver?
[09:34] <MinusSeven> is anyone here using wireless with kubuntu?
[09:35] <idyllic> jack_spratt: we are kind of desperate D:
[09:35] <Mamarok> Fusion: well, test the life CD to know
[09:35] <jonathan__> MinusSeven: i am :(. is it still not working for you
[09:35] <MinusSeven> nope, I tried sudo apt-get install wicd
[09:35] <jack_spratt> idyllic: no i asked before how to do that but nobody answered. do you know how to make this computer use vesa instead?
[09:35] <Fusion> kwyjibo: Good Idea!
[09:35] <MinusSeven> but it said, couldn't find package wicd
[09:35] <pawel_pfk_> Fusion: X1650 works wonderful here
[09:35] <Mamarok> MinusSeven: do you have all repositories activated?
[09:36] <kwyjibo> afk breakfasts
[09:36] <yofel> MinusSeven: it will say that if you never had at least once an internet connection after install
[09:36] <MinusSeven> no
[09:36] <Mamarok> MinusSeven: you can check with 'aptitude show wicd'
[09:36] <idyllic> jack_spratt: O_O how come they never told you? Nevermind, i pastebin for you lol
[09:36] <MinusSeven> but do I need an internet connection?
[09:36] <jack_spratt> idyllic: if I could get vesa working then I could get connected, download the iso and then do a fresh install
[09:36] <jonathan__> MinusSeven: ya you do
[09:36] <amik> Mamarok: my issues are mostly with flash, but I heard games have some issues as well with 64
[09:36] <yofel> MinusSeven: for apt-get yes
[09:36] <MinusSeven> but before I can access the internet I need wicd?
[09:36] <jack_spratt> idyllic: thanks very much!!
[09:36] <MinusSeven> sounds like a problem
[09:36] <Mamarok> amik: well, since I use Chromium I have no problems with flash at all, and I don't use external games
[09:37] <idyllic> jack_spratt: http://pastebin.ca/1649034 put this into ur xorg.conf
[09:37] <Mamarok> this is a work computer
[09:37] <jonathan__> no MinusSeven if you can wire yourself to the net for the time being to get wicd give it a shot
[09:37] <yofel> MinusSeven: exactly what do you get right now? Does knetworkmanager at least show some networks?
[09:37]  * Mamarok is off for breakfast
[09:37] <idyllic> jack_spratt: comment out the current Device section in your xorg.conf as well
[09:37] <MinusSeven> I added a wireless network
[09:37] <MinusSeven> but it doesn't try to connect
[09:37] <jack_spratt> idyllic: ok, I REALLY hope that nano is already installed
[09:37] <yofel> MinusSeven: was the network hidden? It should find and list available ones
[09:38] <MinusSeven> yes, but I entered in the SSID
[09:38] <Fusion64> kwyjibo: Well My video Card Is kinda weird when it comes to driver.
[09:38] <jonathan__> does it assk you for kwallet password to add the key to it so its saved in the future
[09:38] <amik> Mamarok: flash bugs occur differently on different browsers? I thought it was the flash blob itself that was buggy (which may be wrong)
[09:38] <franta> Hi there! Is there a way to make amarok play files from samba share?
[09:38] <idyllic> MinusSeven: read the release note, the current plasma-network-manager has problem with hidden ESSID
[09:38] <MinusSeven> surely, this isn't designed so you have to have internet access to be able to get internet access?
[09:38] <jonathan__> MinusSeven: manually add the network to the list and instead of typing in the ssid hit scan and choose the network
[09:38] <idyllic> MinusSeven: use the gnome version or wicd
[09:38] <idyllic> jack_spratt: it is installed by default :)
[09:38] <MinusSeven> it wouldn't let me choose the network from the scan
[09:38] <MinusSeven> only other networks
[09:39] <jack_spratt> idyllic: a hash at the start of each line will comment out correct?
[09:39] <idyllic> jack_spratt: yeah
[09:39] <jack_spratt> cool
[09:39] <hemathor> is there a way to tell wubi to install from a local 9.10 iso-image instead of reloading it from the net again?
[09:39] <jonathan__>  MinusSeven: like idyllic you might have to make the network unhidden for it to work. and i have had no issues with networks that arent hidden
[09:39] <SunlessHalo> yo
[09:39] <amik> hemathor: yes, I think it does when it's in the same folder or something like that
[09:40] <MinusSeven> ok, i'll try that
[09:40] <MinusSeven> and then hide it again?
[09:40] <Fusion64> kwyjibo: Thanks for the help & good bye.
[09:40] <SunlessHalo> please, i have a problem with HDA Intel sound... falls back on KDE boot since last 10 boots
[09:40] <jack_spratt> idyllic: do I need to restart or should startx work?
[09:40] <idyllic> MinusSeven: as long as u hide it, it wont work
[09:40] <hemathor> amik: ok, i'll try that
[09:40] <MinusSeven> ok brb'
[09:40] <idyllic> jack_spratt:  preferably restart, but no harm startx first :)
[09:41] <jack_spratt> idyllic: ok, progress...
[09:41] <jonathan__> MinusSeven: dont hide it again as idyllic mentioned there seems to eb a bug with the current nm with hidden essid's
[09:41] <Mamarok> lumprich: /query ubottu !md5sum
[09:42] <idyllic> jack_spratt: Great news :) I will be here for another 15 mins if you still need my help. Having class later D:
[09:42] <jack_spratt> idyllic: hallelujah - I've got a desktop
[09:42] <tasslehoff> why is Desktop Search / Strigi in the System Settings, when no strigi stuff is installed with Kubuntu? If I enable it, it doesn't tell me I need to install packages either.
[09:42] <amik> jack_spratt: what solved the problem at the end?
[09:42] <jack_spratt> idyllic: hehe.
[09:42] <idyllic> jack_spratt: high five!
[09:43] <jack_spratt> amik, idyllic: well I have a desktop and I'm very happy.  However, I guess I shouldn;t stick to vesa forever
[09:43] <idyllic> jack_spratt: time to fix your intel card driver/ xserver as well maybe
[09:43] <hemathor> amik: seems to work, thx
[09:44] <amik> hemathor: great :-)
[09:44] <amik> jack_spratt: what was the problem? how did u solve it? (didn't follow the whole thread)
[09:44] <SunlessHalo> please, could anybody attend my HDA missing sound issue?
[09:44] <jack_spratt> idyllic: how do I do that?
[09:44] <jack_spratt> amik: im just using vesa for now, the upgrade mangled my x configuration
[09:45] <amik> jack_spratt: and how did u get this far? just replaced conf? or something more?
[09:45] <idyllic> jack_spratt: not too sure. Reinstall the xserver-xorg package?
[09:46] <kgeek> where can i find lanshark ?
[09:46] <jack_spratt> amik: yes idyllic told me what to put in xorg.conf to set it to use vesa
[09:46] <jonathan__> !info lanshark | kgeek
[09:46] <jonathan__> O_o bot hasnt been updated
[09:47] <idyllic> kgeek: wireshark you mean?
[09:47] <kgeek> !info blender | kgeek
[09:47] <amik> jack_spratt: cool, glad u made progress :-)
[09:47] <kgeek> !info giver | amik
[09:48] <SunlessHalo> please, could anybody attend my HDA Intel (ALC660-VD) missing sound problem?
[09:48] <jack_spratt> idyllic: im trying to get an internet connection. There are some problems in this x session (perhaps i should restart) I have four messages saying the system encountered a serious kernel problem, and the wireless wont connect, and it says the internal sound device has been removed
[09:48] <amik> kgeek: huh?
[09:48] <jack_spratt> idyllic: i think that ill try restarting
[09:48] <idyllic> jack_spratt: @_@ if you have time and backup ready, i suggest reinstall.
[09:49] <amik> jack_spratt, idyllic: maybe it's time they added a k/ubuntu-X-reconfigure, to do whatever magic it does when installing from scratch. I've looked for it many times...
[09:49] <idyllic> jack_spratt: anyway, i gotta go for class.. see if i can see you online later D:
[09:49] <kgeek> !info build-essential | kgeek
[09:49] <jack_spratt> idyllic: thanks so much for your help! It was fantastic!
[09:49] <Mamarok> kgeek: you don't have to pipe yourself :)
[09:50] <amik> idyllic: yah, thanx for helping where I failed :-)
[09:50] <kgeek> !hi | Mamarok
[09:50] <Hagus> How do I upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10?
[09:50] <jack_spratt> amik: personally I love the 'video' command in mandrake and pclos which gives you a nice, very simple graphical interface to save your video and X conf and test it before restarting
[09:50] <jonathan__> !upgrade | Hagus
[09:50] <SunlessHalo> !sound
[09:50] <Mamarok> kgeek: pleae don't abuse the bot
[09:50] <jack_spratt> amik: that thing is absolutely magic
[09:50] <jonathan__> ahhh bot hasnt been updated :(
[09:50] <Hagus> ty jonathan__ :)
[09:50] <jonathan__> no problem Hagus
[09:51] <SunlessHalo> wtf is arts?
[09:51] <yofel> kgeek: you can just /msg ubottu if you want to play with him
[09:51] <yofel> *her
[09:51] <Mamarok> Hagus: please see the website: http://kubunut.org, the first item has a link to the howto
[09:51] <SunlessHalo> fokn
[09:51] <Hagus> ty Mamarok :)
[09:52] <Mamarok> you are welcome, Hagus :)
[09:52] <Hagus> I have a dvd with ubuntu 9.10 alpha3 on it.
[09:52] <SunlessHalo> i actually don't have *sound systems* option in system setting :\
[09:52] <Mamarok> SunlessHalo: it's called Multimedia
[09:52] <kgeek> yofel: i think /msg is not working with bot
[09:53] <Mamarok> kgeek: yes it does
[09:53] <yofel> kgeek: it is, it will send you a private message back
[09:53] <Mamarok> I do this all the time
[09:53] <kgeek> Mamarok: how ? give an example of !hi
[09:53] <SunlessHalo> Mamarok: in that case, there is no ARTS option in there
[09:53] <Mamarok> kgeek: /msg ubottu !hi
[09:53] <kgeek> Mamarok: thx
[09:54] <Mamarok> SunlessHalo: no, since phonon is the layer that configures alsa, arts is obsolete and not used anymore since quite some time
[09:54] <SunlessHalo> Mamarok: okay, how will I bring my HDA sound to running?
[09:55] <Mamarok> SunlessHalo: which Kubuntu do you use?
[09:55] <SunlessHalo> Mamarok: Karmic x86.64
[09:56] <Mamarok> SunlessHalo: also, what exactly is not working?
[09:56] <amik> Mamarok: r u a k dev?
[09:56] <Hagus> I take it that I should not lose my data by upgrading?
[09:56] <jonathan__> !u | amik
[09:56] <SunlessHalo> Mamarok: the Intel HDA falls back on boot, mp3/flash playback is not working then
[09:57] <Mamarok> SunlessHalo: do you have pulseaudio installed?
[09:57] <SunlessHalo> yes, apparently
[09:57] <amik> Mamarok: Are you a KDE or Kubuntu developer?
[09:57] <ghostcube> hi SunlessHalo
[09:57] <Mamarok> well, unless you also use Gnome, there is no need for pulseaudio in Karmic
[09:57] <SunlessHalo> Mamarok: a remark, i have no problem with sound on gnome
[09:58] <Mamarok> SunlessHalo: did you read what I just said?
[09:58] <SunlessHalo> Mamarok: I know, with installing gnome, many kde things started going weird
[09:58] <Mamarok> you don't need pulseaudio in KDE, push it to the bottom, then remove ~/.kde/share/config/phonondevicesrc, then restart KDE
[09:59] <SunlessHalo> okay
[09:59] <Mamarok> SunlessHalo: and if you don't use Gnome, uninstall pulseaudio, it only causes trouble in KDE
[09:59] <SunlessHalo> ehm, I'm not really willing to uninstall gnome :\
[10:00] <SunlessHalo> what is the shell command for file removal? :-[
[10:00] <SpiceMan> rm
[10:00] <Mamarok> well, then do as I said earlier, or ask in #pulseaudio how to confire pulseaudio for KDE, but be prepared to spend an hour or so tweaking your stuff
[10:00] <Mamarok> SunlessHalo: sudo apt-get remove <packagename>
[10:01] <SpiceMan> that's package removal, not file
[10:01] <SunlessHalo> its just so that i have installed ubuntu-desktop afterwards and some settings have been preset to gnome stuff instead...
[10:01] <Mamarok> SpiceMan: right, I didn't read correctly, guess I need more coffee :)
[10:01] <SunlessHalo> I'd rather use kde stuff but need gnome installed
[10:02] <Mamarok> amik: I am not a developer, no, and that is not relevant in a support channel
[10:02] <amik> Mamarok: ok, right, sorry
[10:03]  * Mamarok gets more coffee
[10:05] <SpiceMan> anyway... I'm using the 9.10 RC and want to upgrade to the final release (is there any real difference? /etc/debian_version holds "squeeze/sid")
[10:05] <SunlessHalo> SpiceMan: sudo rm -r -f ~/.kde/share/config/phonondevicesrc   ?
[10:05] <SpiceMan> apt-get upgrade says all is up-to-date
[10:05] <SpiceMan> SunlessHalo: if it's your own home folder, you don't need sudo. and you can bundle -rf intead of -r -f
[10:05] <yofel> !final
[10:06] <SunlessHalo> SpiceMan: understood
[10:06] <SpiceMan> I would use -i instead of -f if you're not sure
[10:07]  * SunlessHalo restart x
[10:07] <SunlessHalo> btw
[10:07] <SunlessHalo> ctrl+alt-backspace doesn't work anymore?
[10:07] <SpiceMan> yofel: I see. no upgrade needed. I don't like /etc/debian_version content's though
[10:07] <SpiceMan> contents, even
[10:07] <yofel> SpiceMan: Ubuntu is based on Sid, so nothing you can do there
[10:08] <yofel> it's the /debian/ version ^^
[10:10] <SpiceMan> I see
[10:10] <SpiceMan> thanks
[10:10] <yofel> SpiceMan: /etc/lsb-release contains information about ubuntu, but doesn't indicate alpha/beta/...
[10:11] <jack_spratt> since upgrading to karmic network manager cant connect wirelessly. It detects the available networks OK, but it gets to 'activating connection' then fails without an error and states disconnected. There is no encryption on this network
[10:11] <yofel> sine those are more like snapshots of the repository
[10:12] <jepong> hello... do anyone tried kubuntu mobile broadband?
[10:12] <jepong> is it working now with karmic? thanks
[10:13] <jonathan__> jack_spratt: can you wire uself to the network purge the plasma-widget-network-manager and then reinstalling
[10:14] <jack_spratt> jonathan_: no, but I can connect it to another wireless device and use ICS maybe?
[10:14] <SunlessHalo> didn't help :(
[10:14] <jonathan__> jack_spratt: possible never tried that on kubuntu
[10:14] <jack_spratt> jonathan_: I mean, it isnt impossible to get a wired connection, but id have to move my desktop onto another floor
[10:15] <yofel> SunlessHalo: if you have pulse installed, did you check if the output isn't muted in pavucontrol ?
[10:15] <jack_spratt> jonathan__: you rekon that would fix it? have you encountered this problem before?
[10:15] <jack_spratt> purging i mean
[10:15] <jack_spratt> jonathan__: how nabout if I downloaded the package and then transferred it onto this machine?
[10:15] <SunlessHalo> yofel: i have both native and pulseaudio... the native one is preferred, but falls back by itself on start... gnome works wine with pulseaudio
[10:16] <jonathan__> jack_spratt: its possible as it will get rid of all the old configurations and you will have the version in karmic
[10:16] <jonathan__> jack_spratt: that can work as long as the package is a .deb
[10:16] <jonathan__> or source code
[10:16] <yofel> SunlessHalo: well, I have gnome here installed too, and sometimes pulse just mutes the main out by itself, I have to unmute it in pavucontrol to work
[10:17] <jack_spratt> jonathan__: can you tell me where i can get the deb, and exactly what to do with it?
[10:17] <yofel> I think it happens everytime pulse is updated
[10:17] <SunlessHalo> yofel: I am mainly on kde... but the Intel HDA driver falls back constantly
[10:17] <SunlessHalo> Mamarok: please, any advice?
[10:18] <jack_spratt> jonathan__: nwm has been updated - it looks different
[10:18] <jonathan__> jack_spratt: try this instead
[10:18] <MarcoPau> I have been using this deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/pgquiles/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main ppa archive in my jaunty, may I not use it any more for karmic upgrade?
[10:18] <jonathan__> jack_spratt: delete the wireless connection you probably have saved in the nm and re add it
[10:19] <jack_spratt> jonathan__: after the upgrade they had all been deleted, so I had to add it initially, but Ill delete it and add it again
[10:19] <yofel> MarcoPau: ppa's get disabled on upgrade to not cause problems, re-enable it again if you need it (and change jaunty into karmic if possible)
[10:20] <MarcoPau> yofel: ok
[10:20] <jack_spratt> jonathan__: OK I deleted and readded and it just hangs at activating and failsagain
[10:22] <jack_spratt> jonathan__: according to synaptic network-manager is at version 0.8~a~git.2009101
[10:22] <jonathan__> jack_spratt: hummm what kind of wifi card do you have
[10:22] <jack_spratt> jonathan__: is that correct?
[10:22] <jonathan__> no its not its 0.9
[10:23] <jonathan__> jack_spratt: do you have an ethernet jack on ur machine
[10:23] <yasin> hi. ubuntu 9.10 installing but frequency out of range bug. help!!
[10:23] <jack_spratt> jonathan: ralink
[10:23] <jack_spratt> jonathan__: yes
[10:23] <amik> jack_spratt: with all the time you're spending trying to fix the broken upgrade video, wireless, etc., perhaps it would be simpler to make a fresh install? just a thought. does wireless work from a liveCD?
[10:23] <EagleScreen> i have 0.8~a~git.2009101 in karmic
[10:24] <jonathan__> EagleScreen: did you upgrade
[10:24] <jonathan__> i did a clean install and have been on since alpha 5
[10:24] <jack_spratt> amik: i dont have a connection to download the iso at the moment on my only machine with a burner. Im using IRC on my netbook, and im downloading an iso onto this and when thats done ill ferry it accross to the broken rig and burn it. If by that stage the other issues arent fixed then I guess Ill do a fresh install.
[10:24] <EagleScreen> lets try to upgrade right now..
[10:24] <jonathan__> jack_spratt: wire yourself to the network and run any updates
[10:25] <jack_spratt> amik: In the last two months I've had 3 fresh installs, and lost about 2tb of data!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[10:25] <yofel> jonathan__: the version of the plasma widget is 0.9, NM is 0.8~a~git... like jack_spratt said
[10:25]  * jack_spratt holds on to his sanity
[10:25] <ulysses__> i have also network-manager Version: 0.8~a~git.20091013t193206.679d548-0ubuntu1 (yesterday upgraded from jaunty to karmic)
[10:25] <EagleScreen> oh you mean the kde widget
[10:25] <kgeek> !info sound
[10:25] <jonathan__> ya EagleScreen im on the kde one
[10:25] <jonathan__> jack_spratt: you on the kde nm or gnome
[10:26] <EagleScreen> me too, i was looking at network-manager (core)
[10:26] <yofel> !info plasma-widget-networkmanagement karmic
[10:26]  * SunlessHalo is getting upset with the non working audio :(
[10:26] <jack_spratt> jonathan__: erm, im in kubuntu, talking about the applet/manager in the tray
[10:26] <amik> jack_spratt: ouch... how much of the is related to the upgrade? btw, u can use a usb stick isntead of a burner if u have one available.
[10:26] <jonathan__> the plasma-widget-network-manager
[10:26] <jack_spratt> jonathan__: right clicking doesnt give me any app info so im not quite sure
[10:26] <SunlessHalo> Mamarok: could you help me a bit more?
[10:26] <jack_spratt> amik: ah, good point.
[10:26] <jonathan__> jack_spratt: run apt-cache policy plasma-widget-network-manager in commandline
[10:26] <yofel> !info plasma-widget-networkmanagement
[10:26] <jonathan__> SunlessHalo: she went to get some coffee
[10:26] <jack_spratt> jonathan__: ok
[10:27] <ulysses__> plasma-widget-network-manager: Version: 0.9~svn1029786+ag1-0ubuntu1
[10:27] <jack_spratt> jonathan__: as sudo?
[10:27] <jonathan__> no
[10:27] <jonathan__> anywho i need to go grab lunch before my next lecture
[10:27] <jonathan__> ill be back later
[10:27] <amik> jack_spratt: karmic has usb creator built-in (if it survived the upgrade process)
[10:27] <asdzxc> hi
[10:28] <asdzxc> how can i remove 'auto eth0' from network manager ?
[10:28] <jack_spratt> jonathan__: installed 0.9 svn....
[10:29] <jack_spratt> amik: oh yes, just found it - usb startup disk creator
[10:29] <jack_spratt> amik: makes a nice change from having to use unetbootin via wine!
[10:29] <asdzxc1> hi, how can i remove 'auto eth0' from network manager ?
[10:30] <allee-k_> asdzxc1:  hackish: add an eth0 entry to /etc/network/interfaces and network manager then ignores eth0 ;)
[10:30] <amik> jack_spratt: or usb-creator (gtk) which I had to use yesterday on jaunty. but sure nice to see it included.
[10:30] <jack_spratt> jonathan__: is that what you wanted to know?
[10:30] <asdzxc1> allee-k_: i don't want from it to ignore eth0
[10:30] <asdzxc1> allee-k_: i just want to disable/remove 'auto eth0' connection
[10:31] <yofel> jack_spratt: he's already gone
[10:31] <asdzxc1> cos it is still connecting to auto eth0 and ignores my wired connection
[10:31] <jack_spratt> yofel: - ? do you know why?
[10:31] <yofel> jack_spratt: [11:27:45] <jonathan__> anywho i need to go grab lunch before my next lecture
[10:31] <yofel> [11:27:48] <jonathan__> ill be back later
[10:33] <jack_spratt> yofel: I dont seem to have got that message. Thanks for passing it on
[10:33] <kgeek> yo!
[10:33] <yofel> jack_spratt: np
[10:34] <allee-k_> asdzxc1: sorry, no idea how to do it with plasma-networkmanager.  Just curious: why do you plugin the cable if the first place?
[10:34] <allee-k_> asdzxc1: ... if you want to ignore the wired connection
[10:34] <asdzxc1> allee-k_: i have my own wired connection denifed
[10:34] <asdzxc1> but network manager is ignoring it and still enablig 'auto eth0'
[10:35] <Squeak> mornin' everyone
[10:36] <Squeak> is there anyone around who uses ktorrent?
[10:36] <asdzxc1> allee-k_: i don't know where it gets that auto eth0, i cannot see it anywhere in config files
[10:36] <yofel> Squeak: me sometimes
[10:37] <Squeak> since I upgraded to Karmic, suddenly firefox won't open torrents in ktorrent
[10:37] <yofel> Squeak: set it to open them in ktorrent?
[10:38] <Squeak> the application association is still there,
[10:38] <Squeak> in exactly the same way as it used to be
[10:38] <Squeak> and firefox saves them to /tmp in the same way as it should, but it just never gets to ktorrent
[10:39] <yofel> hm, no idea, I set it manually to open them with ktorrent and it works now
[10:39] <kubunter> hello everyone
[10:40] <Squeak> i'll try deleting the association and readding it
[10:41] <SunlessHalo> please, help me with the sound :(
[10:42] <yofel> SunlessHalo: did you actually check if anything is muted in alsamixer? and did you try pavucontrol?
[10:43] <SunlessHalo> of course
[10:43] <Squeak> no, no luck
[10:43] <yofel> Squeak: and if you tell firefox to open the files with ktorrent?
[10:44] <SunlessHalo> HDA sound doesn't load, it falls back to pulseaudio, which allows system bell to play, but the playback, flash and so doesn
[10:44] <Squeak> that's what i've done
[10:44] <Squeak> SunlessHalo: I had that problem when I updated
[10:44] <SunlessHalo> and how did you reslove?
[10:44] <Squeak> damn, sorry
[10:45] <Squeak> I missed the bit where you said you'd tried pavucontrol
[10:45] <Squeak> I finally got it fixed by installing that and unmuting the pulse volume
[10:45] <Squeak> yofel - it still just saves the file to /tmp but ktorrent never opens it
[10:45] <yofel> o.O
[10:46] <kgeek> yofel: i want help with filesharing ..on LAN ..!!don't tell me the samba tweak.tell me some  other method
[10:46] <reinhold> I have a problem with suspending my Acer laptop: Whenever I suspend and try to wake it up, I end up at the KDM login screen rather than in my previous session... Any idea?
[10:46] <kgeek> kubunter: is it rupa or harry
[10:47] <yofel> kgeek: err... I'm no expert, you could either use samba or NFS or install an ssh server to a machine and transfer files over sftp
[10:47] <kgeek> yofel: ch that's to the answer   to  my question
[10:47] <tarifador> anybody!!!
[10:48] <tarifador> ipmasq is deleted from sources list
[10:48] <tarifador> how can i share internet???
[10:48] <tarifador> please help
[10:49] <kgeek> tarifador: pls..update ..first ..it willl be done ...
[10:50] <yofel> !info ipmasq
[10:50] <yofel> !info ipmasq karmic
[10:50] <kgeek> tarifador: ($ sudo aptitude update) after that will be done go for ($ sudo aptitude install update)
[10:51] <tarifador> its done
[10:51] <tarifador> ipmasq is deleted
[10:51] <tarifador> http://packages.ubunut.com/search?keywords=ipmasq
[10:52] <tarifador> exist in others version
[10:52] <kgeek> tarifador: alright ..
[10:53] <yofel> probably unmaintained, it's gone from debian/sid too
[10:53] <tarifador> what can i do... whitout that :s
[10:53] <tarifador> ipmasq is realesed in 2000
[10:53] <tarifador> the last
[10:53] <yofel> tarifador: you could try to install the jaunty version, it *should* work (no guarantees though)
[10:53] <tarifador> 8 years old without update
[10:54] <tarifador> in jounty its works
[10:54]  * SunlessHalo is a coward
[10:54] <SunlessHalo> and pavucontrol did help
[10:54] <tarifador> but i update to koala
[10:54] <SunlessHalo> thanks
[10:54] <yofel> SunlessHalo: :)
[10:54] <tarifador> and surprice
[10:55] <yofel> SunlessHalo: I had that often during the dev cycle, it's annoying -.-
[10:55] <SunlessHalo> -.-
[10:56] <Creap> kdesu froze while upgrading to 9.10
[10:56] <tarifador> please help!! share internet connection
[10:56] <Creap> I still have Distribution Upgrade running
[10:56] <Creap> but it's frozen
[10:56] <Creap> what do you suggest? killing it?
[10:58] <borhie> mana
[10:58] <tarifador> Heeeelp meee xD
[10:58] <borhie> hi
[10:59] <yofel> tarifador: did you try installing the jaunty version?
[10:59] <yofel> tarifador: just download the package from packages.ubuntu.com and install it
[11:01] <tarifador> uuu
[11:01] <tarifador> i see
[11:01] <tarifador> i probe
[11:01] <tarifador> wait me please xD
[11:01] <theseus2> hi, are there still problems with kpackagekit in Kubuntu 9.10? I upgraded yesterday and cannot install anything with kpackagekit.
[11:06] <tarifador> yofel?
[11:06] <tarifador> thanks
[11:06] <tarifador> was easy
[11:06] <tarifador> !!!
[11:06] <tarifador> :P
[11:06] <yofel> :)
[11:06] <FloodBotK1> tarifador: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:06] <theseus2> ok if nobody answers I think there are no known problems with kpackagekit in 9.10?
[11:06] <yofel> theseus2: it works fine here
[11:07] <yofel> (I don't use it that often though)
[11:08] <theseus2> ;-)
[11:11] <robin0800> sudo aptitude update and sudo amptitude safe-upgrade or sudo amptitude install  (package name)
[11:14] <yofel> well, gotta run, bbl
[11:14] <Mamarok> robin0800: check yur typos
[11:14]  * Mamarok should check hers
[11:14] <hackndoes> Hi everyone, i used the debian driver finder and saw this output - http://pastebin.com/m7bf818ed
[11:15] <hackndoes> not i guess it says i don't have the "nVidia Corporation	G92 [GeForce 8800 GT]	" driver installed and i do have the nvidia 8800 gt card in the machine
[11:15] <Mamarok> hackndoes: and what is the debian driver finder?
[11:16] <hackndoes> http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx
[11:16] <hackndoes> you put the output of lspci -n to it and it tells you what is installed and what is not
[11:16] <Mamarok> right, how about aptitude search nvidia?
[11:17] <hackndoes> Mamarok: well becuase i already have and it says i have nvidia-glx-185 installed
[11:17] <theseus2> thanks "sudo aptitude safe-upgrade" worked for me, it has removed libdirac0c2a and now everything works fine :)
[11:18] <Mamarok> hackndoes: because that tool fails on alomost all my lspci list, and everything works just fine here, so I wouldn't trust that too much
[11:18] <Mamarok> hackndoes: do you have graphic problems?
[11:18] <hackndoes> Mamarok: OK great thanks, so what i have installed is correct for my card?
[11:18] <Mamarok> most likely, yes
[11:19] <hackndoes> no but i didnt yet pushed it to extreme, only just installed kubuntu less then a week ago and i am constantly working (when not at work) :)
[11:19] <hackndoes> so no exhusting is done to it
[11:19] <Mamarok> hackndoes: you do have Karmic, do you?
[11:20] <hackndoes> yes of course, when it was still in RC
[11:20] <Mamarok> ok, then it's most likely the latest driver available in the repos
[11:20] <hackndoes> yes probably, it's great drivers are also kept in repos, i mean third party drivers
[11:26] <omar> Hi all.
[11:26] <omar> I have a problem with my laptop.
[11:26] <omar> I just installed Kubuntu-Desktop on it and it refuses now to connect to my wireless lan.
[11:26] <omar> For some reason.
[11:30] <omar> Hello?
[11:30] <omar> Anyone here?
[11:30] <oduda> karmic koala is too slow to install on a i865g graphics card
[11:31] <oduda> me omar how are you ? (im here needing help too :)
[11:31] <omar> Hi :)
[11:31] <omar> Can you help me with my issue?
[11:32] <oduda> i can try but i cant promisse ok ?
[11:32] <omar> oduda: 'kay
[11:32] <oduda> omar:so ?
[11:33] <omar> oduda: Although I'm 100% sure I've entered the correct password for my WPA2 security setting.
[11:33] <omar> oduda: It's not accepting it for some reason.
[11:33] <omar> oduda: the wireless is detected though.
[11:34] <oduda> omar: which hardware ?
[11:34] <omar> oduda: regarding what? My wireless card?
[11:35] <eos> and your rooter too I suppose
[11:35] <omar> oduda: My reuter is a Thomson Speedtouch.
[11:36] <oduda> omar: now i already have a wifi working and was too easy to setup it, oh yes, mine is Cisco/Linksys
[11:36] <oduda> hmmmm seeing some configs...
[11:37] <omar> oduda: it used to work magically on Gnome though.
[11:37] <oduda> omar: are you having problem only at Kubuntu ?
[11:38] <omar> oduda: yes
[11:38] <oduda> omar: stranger... they are so equal...
[11:40] <oduda> omar: im just using wpa2 too, but with mixed mode turned on (Linksys have this)
[11:40] <oduda> omar:Encryption: TKIP + AES
[11:42] <oduda> omar: are you there?
[11:42] <omar> oduda: yes, I am.
[11:42] <hackndoes> if there are people here that are involved in development of kde
[11:42] <omar> oduda: excuse me?
[11:43] <oduda> omar: no problem
[11:43] <iWolf> Hello
[11:43] <iWolf> I just installed
[11:43] <hackndoes> i would suggest for them to sit down and write a good outlook like email client, but that is very much resembles outlook, that will bring so many users to linux
[11:43] <iWolf> And my screen flashes
[11:43] <iWolf> Desktop Visible
[11:44] <iWolf> Just Flashes Alot
[11:44] <hackndoes> it should also totally be compatible with outlook
[11:44] <Jesper_x> hey guyz
[11:44] <jarl> hacknodes: thanks for your tips...
[11:44] <jarl> Jesper_x: hey...
[11:45] <iWolf> Hello,
[11:46] <oduda> omar: did you try something new with your router ?
[11:46] <omar> oduda: like what?
[11:46] <oduda> omar: all configs at "automatic"
[11:47] <omar> oduda: I don't understand.
[11:47] <iWolf> Can i get some help here
[11:47] <oduda> omar: all configurations at you default state, factory defaults
[11:48] <jarl> iWolf: can you be more specific?
[11:48] <iWolf> I have installed Kubuntu
[11:48] <iWolf> When i boot up,
[11:48] <iWolf> The screen starts to flash
[11:48] <omar> oduda: yes, I haven't been tinkering with it a lot.
[11:48] <iWolf> Im checking my install disk
[11:49] <oduda> omar: without passwords and security at the beginning ?
[11:49] <SunlessHalo> LOL
[11:49] <iWolf> If i boot from LiveCD, its fine
[11:49] <SunlessHalo> WHY AM I WRITING IN CAPS WHEN CAPS INDICATOR IS DOWN? -.-
[11:49] <omar> oduda: it has the authentication thing. (Username and Password)
[11:49] <jarl> iWolf: Have no idea?
[11:50] <iWolf> Dell C400
[11:50] <iWolf> NVidia
[11:50] <jarl> iWolf: flash? like a camera flash?
[11:50] <iWolf> Its constant
[11:51] <jarl> constant what?
[11:51] <iWolf> Flashing
[11:51] <oduda> omar: you cant let it with no security ?
[11:51] <iWolf> Screen goes black, here's the desktop again
[11:51] <iWolf> Like a strop
[11:51] <iWolf> strobe*
[11:51] <omar> oduda: I don't see how that's relevant.
[11:51] <omar> oduda: in order to access I should first be connected to it ya know.
[11:51] <iWolf> Any idea?
[11:52] <jarl> iWolf: so it flashes and the goes black and stays black, is that it?
[11:52] <omar> access *it*
[11:52] <iWolf> No
[11:52] <iWolf> Its like a strobe
[11:52] <oduda> omar: trying at the start of setup with no security... and so setting up the securities
[11:52] <jarl> iWolf: OK, it sounds like it can cause damage to the screen.
[11:53] <iWolf> Its not like, bright light flashing
[11:53] <iWolf> Its just its the desktop
[11:53] <iWolf> Is there possibly anyway I can fix this?
[11:53] <jarl> iWolf: ok
[11:53] <iWolf> Im checking some forums, nothing so far
[11:54] <oduda> refresh rate ? may be that ?
[11:54] <jarl> iWolf:  have you installed closed source binary driver?
[11:54] <jarl> iWolf: I believe the live CD is using open source driver
[11:54] <iWolf> Im using nVidia
[11:55] <oduda> wrong refresh rate ?
[11:55] <jarl> iWolf: nVidia driver?
[11:55] <iWolf> Correct
[11:55] <jarl> iWolf: Try the open source driver
[11:55] <iWolf> So, how do i do that
[11:56] <iWolf> Also, I cant access the K menu
[11:56] <iWolf> LiveCD its perfectly fine
[11:56] <rosco_y> Is anyone using the Adobe AIR application?
[11:56] <jarl> iWolf: what do you mean by can't access K-menu?
[11:56] <iWolf> I click on the KDE icon
[11:56] <iWolf> Nothing Shows Up
[11:56] <iWolf> (Menu)
[11:57] <jarl> iWolf: what kubuntu version?
[11:58] <iWolf> 9.10
[11:58] <rosco_y> iWolf: I saw something like that once--the monitor needed to be adjusted via the buttons on the monitor
[11:58] <iWolf> Its a Dell C400 (Laptop)
[11:59] <rosco_y> But as I recall, the KDE Icon was nearly out of sight too
[11:59] <iWolf> The Whole Desktop Was Visible
[11:59] <SmokeyD_> Hey people. What is a quick way in the commandprompt to check if a host is up? Right now I am using ping -c1, but is there a quicker way? I am writing a script to check this
[11:59] <jarl> iWolf: To uninstall binary driver, I guess you do it the same as you installed it, that is, ...
[12:00] <iWolf> ?
[12:00] <iWolf> I cant access applications
[12:00] <oduda> people i just found this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=794852
[12:00] <jarl> K-menu -> Applications -> System -> Hardware Driver, then click on deactivate ...
[12:00] <jarl> Of coursse that is difficult when you cant hit the K-menu.
[12:00] <oduda> about the flashing screen http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=794852
[12:01] <ulysses__> iWolf: try Alt+F1 keycombo top open K menu
[12:01] <ulysses__> -p
[12:01] <iWolf> Alright
[12:01] <jarl> iWolf: see also odudas link.
[12:02] <iWolf> Alright
[12:02] <oduda> sorry enter your chat :-)
[12:02] <iWolf> So from there
[12:02] <iWolf> Open the terminal
[12:02] <iWolf> And edit that file
[12:02] <jarl> I also have some flickering (kind of like interlacing) on my laptop sometimes (ATI), when I hit CTRL+ALT+F1 then CTRL+ALT+F7 it's gone.
[12:03] <iWolf> nVidia
[12:03] <iWolf> Whats FloodBotK1 Doing?
[12:03] <jarl> iWolf: no idea
[12:03] <iWolf> For my problem, or FloodBot
[12:03] <iWolf> :P
[12:04] <jarl> iWolf: no idea about FloodBot
[12:04] <iWolf> Its opening Hardware Drivers
[12:05] <oduda> strange problems have strange solutions :-)
[12:07] <oduda> install of kubuntu is flashing and then stay almost freeze that so slow to install (screens)
[12:08] <oduda> lefting bye people !
[12:08] <iWolf> Also
[12:09] <iWolf> Left side with time + widgets
[12:09] <iWolf> Is moved to the left
[12:09] <jarl> iWolf: who are you talking to?
[12:10] <jarl> iWolf: is that additional problems with your installation?
[12:11] <iWolf> Should i just use Ubuntu, and install KDE?
[12:12] <iWolf> Load the module with the following options:
[12:12] <iWolf> options nvidia NVreg_RegistryDwords="PerfLevelSrc=0x2222"
[12:12] <iWolf> I had the same problem, it's gone now
[12:12] <jarl> iWolf: No that would be the same end-result. Try uninstall the binary nVidia, or reinstall Kubuntu without installing the binary nVidia driver
[12:12] <iWolf> How?
[12:12] <abstrait> for french?
[12:13] <iWolf> ?
[12:13] <jarl> iWolf: how what?
 iWolf: No that would be the same end-result. Try uninstall the binary nVidia, or reinstall Kubuntu without installing the binary nVidia driver
[12:13] <iWolf> [7:12am] <iWolf> How?
[12:13] <hackndoes> i have installed kubuntu when it was 2 days from launch (as RC) and then used the hardware drivers to install my nvidia driver and it installed correctly
[12:13] <hackndoes> i now have the nvidia driver build 185 installed
[12:13] <iWolf> It cant find any drivers
[12:14] <hackndoes> i used defualt installation and only after it finished ubuntu recognized it and recommended me to install it so i deed
[12:14] <hackndoes> did
[12:14] <jarl> iWolf: are you asking how "reinstall Kubuntu without installing the binary nVidia driver"
[12:14] <iWolf> Yes, please
[12:15] <abstrait> i cant watch videos of youtube  with ubuntu 9.04
[12:15] <jarl> iWolf: Boot the CD follow what's on the screen
[12:16] <iWolf> I have a LiveCD
[12:17] <iWolf> How do i change the refresh rate?
[12:17] <chakie_work> hm, the updater times out after each 50 or so packages
[12:18] <jarl> iWolf: LiveCD is the same as installation CD isn't it?
[12:18] <chakie_work> i guess the servers are being hammered as we speak, but a retry for a while wouldn't be too hard
[12:18] <chakie_work> with 1400 packages to go it'll take me 20 or so restarts of the updater :)
[12:19] <jarl> iWolf: While booting on the CD, just select "install" in stead of "try ubuntu live"
[12:19] <eos> abstrait upgrade to 9.10
[12:21] <jarl> I wonder if iWolf was a troll?
[12:21] <Tatewaki> I just love the new Kubuntu 9.10!
[12:21] <Tatewaki> Nice work :)
[12:22] <Ev0luti0n_> Tatewaki: :D
[12:22] <Ev0luti0n_> 1 mor
[12:22] <dreamzone> What differents 9.10 from 9.04?
[12:23] <Tatewaki> for kubuntu? Alot
[12:23] <dreamzone> yes
[12:23] <Tatewaki> When i first tried installing kubuntu 9.04 it crashed before i was able to do anything
[12:23] <Tatewaki> it was problerly becuase of the default kde version
[12:23] <simoes> every time i have to do something i need to do "export http_proxy=http://..."
[12:24] <simoes> how can i automatize this task
[12:24] <eos> but grub2 is a little "buggy" hihi
[12:24] <Tatewaki> my experiense was that alpha v4 pf 9.10 was better then the final version of 9.04
[12:25] <dreamzone> I want upgrade 9.04 to 9.10
[12:25] <Tatewaki> You can upgrade with the following: Alt+F2
[12:25] <Tatewaki> should start the run
[12:26] <Tatewaki> then write updat...
[12:26] <Tatewaki> and you update manager should start
[12:27] <dreamzone> Upgrade process allready started... I wait...
[12:27] <Tatewaki> Okay
[12:27] <Tatewaki> Good luck then :)
[12:28] <dreamzone> Thanks
[12:28] <Ev0luti0n_> dreamzone: it will be well worth it
[12:28] <Ev0luti0n_> so freakin awesome the new version
[12:28] <dreamzone> Too slow connect to Internet///
[12:28] <Creap> I seem to have upgraded everything to 9.10 except xserver-xorg, before my upgrade froze
[12:29] <Creap> it didn't want to mount or anything, so I had to go into recovery mode from an old 9.04 Cd and do dpkg --configure -a
[12:29] <Creap> that fixed grub and some other stuff
[12:29] <Creap> still it doesn't want to reinstall kubuntu-desktop, I think some stuff was messed up by the aborted installatio
[12:29] <Creap> :-\
[12:30] <Creap> it just says "setting up kubuntu-desktop", waited for 10 mins now
[12:31] <asrafel> hi all
[12:32] <asrafel> someone know how to add xp to grub 2 menu?
[12:32] <dreamzone> Кто-то по-русски говорит?
[12:32] <asrafel> i try with sudo update-grub2
[12:33] <asrafel> but this don't work
[12:35] <eos> how can I possibly know which vs of grub is installed ?
[12:35] <ulysses__> eos: grub --version
[12:35] <ulysses__> (in konsole of course)
[12:37] <eos> ulysses_ heu no such command (--version finally)
[12:38] <ulysses__> hm, grub --help, which options are?
[12:39] <cba123> How can I install amarok 1.4 in Karmic?  I had it syncing perfectly with my Palm Pre in Jaunty with 1.4 but can't manage to get it working under Karmic with 2.2.
[12:40] <eos> thx ulysses_ it as just a typing bug (hum hum)
[12:41] <ulysses__> ywe
[12:42] <simoes> how can i export a var globally
[12:43] <simoes> and not just temporarily
[12:46] <simoes> found it
[12:46] <simoes> i can set it in bashrc
[12:48] <ward> Hello I'm having trouble upgrading to karmic, maybe because I've installed pre-relase and unsupported sources? Can I do the upgrade with apt instead of the GUI ?
[12:49] <drakon> Hello all I have a question, Does Java come installed by default?
[12:49] <ulysses__> drakon: I think not
[12:50] <drakon> Ahh Okay thank you for the information
[12:50] <ulysses__> ward: if the sources.list is right, then run sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:51] <ward> ulysses__: what do you mean with right ?
[12:52] <ulysses__> it's not for jaunty
[12:53] <amik> what protocols/port are responsible for letting windows boxes in a workgroup recognize the name of a kubuntu box on the same LAN?
[12:53] <ward> ulysses__:  you mean 3th party sources?
[12:53] <ward> he replace some I think to karmic ?
[12:54] <ulysses__> ooo, tho official mirrors are replaced jaunty with karmic (must learn more english:p)
[12:54]  * ulysses__ have a lunch
[12:54] <Shockrates> hello guys
[12:54] <amik> hey Shockrates
[12:54] <Shockrates> how can i share an internet access between kubuntu and xubuntu using ethernet? i have a laptop with wifi that has internet connection and a desktop pc
[12:56] <amik> Shockrates: and a DSL/wireless router?
[12:56] <Shockrates> yes
[12:56] <Shockrates> laptop gets internet via wifi from the router. and i want to share it with my desktop through ethernet lan
[12:57] <amik> Shockrates: oh, u want to connect the desktop with a cable to the laptop which in turn connects wirelessly to the router?
[12:57] <drakon> Is there an easy way to install java with the KPK? or should i just go to there main site and download it from there?
[12:57] <Shockrates> yes
[12:58] <amik> drakon: there are various related sun-java6 packages in the repos
[12:58] <amik> Shockrates: in that case, I don't know :-/
[12:59] <amik> drakon: (jre, jdk, plugin, sources - whatever u need)
[12:59] <drakon> ah Okay thank you amik
[13:00] <amik> Shockrates: I suppose down below it's iptables stuff, but not sure how exactly to set it up
[13:00] <Shockrates> ok
[13:01] <melwomane> Bonjour
[13:01] <theseus2> what does that mean, if i click on "user management" in systemsettings nothing happenes. In my running terminal I then get the message: "findServiceByDesktopPath: userconfig.desktop not found"
[13:02] <simoes> what is best to emulate windows applications: wine or cedega
[13:03] <braddunbar> Is anyone else having trouble with 9.10 wireless?
[13:03] <BluesKaj> simoes, depends what apps you want to run , but most ppl use wine
[13:03] <simoes> ms products
[13:03] <simoes> or try
[13:03] <simoes> such as groove
[13:03] <amik> simoes: or, if relevant, a virtual machine such as virtualbox
[13:03] <BluesKaj> simoes, give me some examples
[13:04] <simoes> i just want to run groove and IE7+
[13:05] <BluesKaj> why IE7? ,..dunno what groove is.
[13:05] <afeijo-br> hi
[13:05] <simoes> the company portal is only accecible with ie7+
[13:05] <ionut> hi.how can i update from ubuntu 8.04 to ubuntu 9.10 (if i can ,ofcourse) ?
[13:06] <nfrs> I have a trouble upgrading to karmic. unresolved package dependencies. can anyone help me resolve them?
[13:06] <afeijo-br> ionut: ask on the ubuntu forum
[13:06] <simoes> groove is used to share workspaces
[13:06] <BluesKaj> this is linux IE is designed to run on windows, but it won't run in wine afaik
[13:06] <afeijo-br> BluesKaj: there is the ie4linux package
[13:06] <simoes> in fact in windows i use firefox with ie plugin
[13:07] <simoes> so i switch only when i need
[13:07] <BluesKaj> afeijo-br, ok you can explain how to simoes if you wish
[13:07] <afeijo-br> linux boot uses grub lol
[13:07] <afeijo-br> I meant windows uses grub
[13:07] <afeijo-br> simoes: you caaan install ie4linux or a vmware with winxp
[13:08] <theseus2> ok i tried all symbols in systemsettings and "partition manager" and "user management dont work I get: "findServiceByDesktopPath: kcm_partitionmanager.desktop not found", "findServiceByDesktopPath: userconfig.desktop not found" but the programs themself are installed. Do I need another package if I want to use them in systemsettings?
[13:08] <afeijo-br> virtualbox also rox to vm
[13:08] <afeijo-br> I'm talking here in a vm that I'm installing kubuntu for netbooks
[13:12] <amik> what protocols/port are responsible for letting windows boxes in a workgroup recognize the name of a kubuntu box on the same LAN?
[13:14] <Idhan> how can install xine in k9.10?
[13:15] <Idhan> the same problem with w32codecs..
[13:15] <simoes> i think there is a bug in date & time
[13:15] <simoes> or i m just noob
[13:16] <simoes> i select other then CET. but it never changes the current local time zone
[13:19] <nfrs> trying to dist-upgrade 9.04->9.10 (the gui method couldn't resolve dependencies). there are like 200 packages that dist-upgrade wants to remove. how can I minimize this number?
[13:21] <BluesKaj> nfrs , are you sure these apps aren't just going to be removed then replaced ?
[13:22] <nfrs> BluesKaj: I'll list several names: amarok apport bug-buddy bzr
[13:23] <BluesKaj> nfrs , those will be replaced afaik
[13:24] <nfrs> BluesKaj: nope
[13:24] <nfrs> none of them
[13:24] <amik> how should I configure the firewall on kubuntu in order for windows to recognize the kubuntu machine name on a workgroup? which ports?
[13:26] <BluesKaj> nfrs, well you obviously know better than I what is happening , but I suspect you are also upgrading your kde version , which could be the problem.
[13:26] <BluesKaj> amik, do you mean the windows FW ?
[13:27] <amik> BluesKaj: no, the kubuntu firewall (guarddog)
[13:27] <BluesKaj> dunno  I don't use one
[13:28] <tsimpson> amik: there is no active firewall by default, so there is no need to do anything for internal (LAN) things
[13:28] <amik> it used to work, I had to change some firewall settings a while ago, and I think in yesterday's reboot it stopped working
[13:28] <amik> tsimpson: I have guarddog set up
[13:29] <amik> nothing changed in the windows boxes, so it must be something on kubuntu that stopped doing its thing...
[13:30] <BluesKaj> amik , did you setup any windows shares in networking
[13:30] <tsimpson> amik: I don't use samba here, but this seems to have a list of ports samba uses: http://troy.jdmz.net/samba/fw/
[13:32] <amik> BluesKaj: yes, and they work ok if I use an explicit IP address. it's the machine name that now isn't recognized on the win machines
[13:32] <amik> I'm not sure which protocol is responsible for that, if it's samba or something else
[13:33] <jepong> any good news if mobile broadband is working ok Kubuntu Karmic?
[13:34] <prv> @jepong I too am looking for that . Is it working?
[13:35] <BluesKaj> amik, from windows to linux (server), it's windows shares networking , from linux shares to windows (server), then samba or smb client
[13:35] <EagleScreen> prv, jepong do you mean 3G connections?
[13:35] <jepong> yes.. 3G
[13:36] <EagleScreen> i haven't tested
[13:36] <BluesKaj> aha genii our resident networking guru has arrived !
[13:37] <prv> I mean GPRS . In jaunty, for connecting my phone, I need to switch to gnome
[13:37] <ideamonk`> Hi guys, nice to know that kubuntu 9.10 has been powered with the latest KDE 4.3, I'm using KDE 4.3 in my debian/testing these days, and find some apps to crash randomly... I want to know how has the KDE experience been in Kubuntu for you guys so far ?
[13:38] <jepong> in jaunty... i use wvdial to use my huawei modem
[13:38] <muhaha> hi folks
[13:38] <muhaha> I can't start amarok, tells me something about QObject::setParent: Cannot set parent, new parent is in a different thread
[13:38] <rohan> what is the procedure to make liveusb stick for kubuntu 9.10? usb-creator on kubuntu 8.04 doesn't seem to work
[13:38] <muhaha> came after installing restricted extras
[13:38] <muhaha> any ideas ?
[13:38] <EagleScreen> 9.10 has a new completly rewritten kde4 applet to manage networkmanager daemon, it is expected to work well
[13:39] <ideamonk`> EagleScreen, thats a good news, on debian I am depending on wcid
[13:39] <EagleScreen> it should be uploaded to Sid soon
[13:39] <BluesKaj> EagleScreen, i sure hope so , I swtiched to wicd , due to the wifi probs with the widget one
[13:39] <jepong> EagleScreen... ill try to create a live usb and test it
[13:40] <prv> wvdial works , but it needs some terminal work . I installed KDE 4.3.1 in jaunty . but the problem still exists
[13:40] <BluesKaj> EagleScreen, It was still flaky in the alpha and beta karmics
[13:40] <nfrs> trying to dist-upgrade 9.04->9.10 (the gui method couldn't resolve dependencies). there are like 300 packages that dist-upgrade wants to remove. how can I minimize this number?
[13:40] <jepong> prv, problem is with the networkmanager then... hope its ok in karmic
[13:40] <EagleScreen> rohan: you cna use dd if you dont care about using all space in the usb-stick for it
[13:41] <rohan> EagleScreen: ah, the new 9.10 ISOs are hybrid ISOs which can just be "dumped" to a pen drive?
[13:41] <rohan> like those opensuse/mandrake ISOs?
[13:42] <EagleScreen> nfrs: dont care much by rmeoved packages, later you can re-install a new Kubuntu Desktop
[13:42] <EagleScreen> I think yes,
[13:42] <nfrs> EagleScreen: I get a feeling there's a deep problem. it wants to remove, e.g., bzr
[13:42] <muhaha> any ideas concerning my amarok-not-starting-problem ???
[13:42] <prv> Isn't the karmic using the same network manager in KDE 4.3.1? That one didn't work when I installed  KDE 4.3.1 in jaunty
[13:43] <EagleScreen> nfrs: are your sources.list updated for karmic?
[13:43] <nfrs> EagleScreen: yes
[13:43] <nfrs> EagleScreen: s/jaunty/karmic/
[13:43] <jepong> prv, i think its a diffrent one... are you using the one in the experimental ppa?
[13:43] <EagleScreen> then you should run: sudo aptitude update; sudo aptitude full-upgrade
[13:43] <EagleScreen> do not mix jaunty with karmic
[13:43] <prv> yeah . from the experimental ppa
[13:44] <EagleScreen> update PPa's to karmic or disable them
[13:44] <jepong> maybe jaunty got a new one
[13:44] <jepong> i mean karmic... sorry
[13:44] <tomarctus> Hi everyone! has someone any idea why my KWin doesn't works? >.> I'm after a new upgrade to 9.10.......
[13:44] <tomarctus> it keeps me telling, that KWin has becommen unstable and i should chose another window manager..... -.-"
[13:44] <tomarctus> any ideas? pls......
[13:44] <tomarctus> (i'm using now kernel 2.6.28-16, this works, but i dont have with it any sound.....)
[13:44] <prv> OK , Thanks for the help
[13:44] <FloodBotK1> tomarctus: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:45] <jepong> prv, let just try using a live usb or live cd... im still in gnome and mobile broadband and 3g only thing keeping me away from kubuntu
[13:45] <jepong> :(
[13:46] <nfrs> EagleScreen: ok, will try
[13:50] <iEC> i upgraded kde...rebooted...and now my firefox looks 1995....can anyone tell me why? http://tinypic.com/r/2qmgsj7/4
[13:50] <Shockrates> i want to share the internet connection between a kubuntu and xubuntu box via ethernet. they kubuntu box only has internet access
[13:51] <Shockrates> how can i do it?
[13:52] <tsimpson> !ics | Shockrates
[13:54] <EagleScreen> iEC: check Systemsettings -> Apparience -> Gtk Styles and Fonts
[13:54] <iEC> EagleScreen: everything else looks fine...its just firefox...should i still check that?
[13:54] <EagleScreen> Shockrates: you need a script to make it easy
[13:54] <EagleScreen> yes iEC
[13:56] <iEC> EagleScreen: i dont see an appearance menu anywhere
[13:56] <afeijo> what is that? Maximum number of clients reached
[13:56] <afeijo> (thunderbird-bin:14828): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0
[13:56] <tangent3> anyone find the new panel background fugly? any way to change it?
[13:56] <afeijo> kubuntu have a limit of how much app I can open?
[13:57] <EagleScreen> Shockrates: http://pastebin.ca/1649257
[13:57] <EagleScreen> iEC: it is
[13:57] <Shockrates> EagleScreen: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=91370
[13:58] <afeijo> kubuntu have a limit of how much app I can open??
[14:00] <Vroomfondle> afeijo: no, as long as you have enough system resources
[14:00] <afeijo> I see, thanks
[14:00] <afeijo> 3gb machine with 3gb swap have plenty of resources...
[14:00] <afeijo> win7 time I guess lol
[14:00] <Vroomfondle> yes
[14:01] <Vroomfondle> what's wrong?
[14:03] <tomarctus> Hi! has anyone problems with Kwin, in 9.10? or i'm just unlucky... ? ^^"
[14:05] <agelos> hello all
[14:08] <BluesKaj> Vroomfondle, don't worry about that ,ppl threaten to go back to windows all the time , but they seldom do :)
[14:08] <MarcoPau> hello guys, I just dist-upgraded to karmic and wireless is not working any more. wlan0 is up but not associated with essid, thou it's properly set in /etc/network/interfaces and seen by iwlist scan
[14:09] <MarcoPau> iwconfig wlan0 essid "NETGEAR" won't have any effect
[14:09] <BluesKaj> MarcoPau, make sure you wifi card driver is still enabled/installed
[14:09] <MarcoPau> BluesKaj: it is
[14:10] <MarcoPau> BluesKaj: I'm using ndiswrapper and even recompiled and reinstalled the driver just to give it a try
[14:10] <noaXess> where can i get a package list of karmic?
[14:11] <tangent3> ok, the upgrade to karmic has been terrible for me so far. clicking on links in irc opens infinite instances of konqueror, google search is missing from my firefox search bar, audio pops whenever it starts playing
[14:12] <afoakwa> hi
[14:12] <afoakwa> hi
[14:13] <afoakwa> kubuntu and ubuntu are growin
[14:14] <BluesKaj> MarcoPau, what about network manager settings , they may have chang4ed during the upgrade
[14:14] <MarcoPau> any hint?
[14:14] <BluesKaj> tangent3, what did you upgrade from ?
[14:15] <MarcoPau> BluesKaj: I'm trying to get connected in console for the moment. I still have to install a few packages for X
[14:16] <MBSTO> o/
[14:16] <MarcoPau> BluesKaj: just using iwconfig for connection
[14:17] <mustafa_> hi every one
[14:18] <mustafa_> I've just installed Kubuntu and trying all the programs
[14:19] <mustafa_> this is nice chat clinet
[14:19] <BluesKaj> MarcoPau, so you're on a windows pc, but trying to connect from the tty prompt on your linuxbox?
[14:19] <MarcoPau> BluesKaj: exacly
[14:21] <BluesKaj> MarcoPau, ok , can you connect your linuxbox by ethernet ?
[14:21] <eduardo> Alguien habla castellano?
[14:22] <MarcoPau> BluesKaj: I can't use a cable unfortunately
[14:22] <BluesKaj> !es | eduardo
[14:23] <eduardo> gracias BluesKaj - allí iré si puedo adivinar como
[14:24] <BluesKaj> MarcoPau, why are you at a tty prompt ? why not try to edit the the network manager on the desktop
[14:24] <MarcoPau> BluesKaj: cause I'm missing a few packages for my graphic card
[14:24] <MarcoPau> thus can't load X
[14:25] <franta> Hi there! is it possible to set middle button behavior to normal? like it should be?:
[14:25] <franta> :)
[14:25] <tsimpson> what is the "normal" behaviour?
[14:25] <franta> middle click:)
[14:26] <franta> not placing some widget on the desktop
[14:26] <BluesKaj> MarcoPau, sry dunno how to help ..look sto me like you need an ethernet connection by the very least , in order to try to fix your porbs
[14:26] <franta> and also it used to close tabs in firefox
[14:26] <eagles0513875> anyone having rather interesting issues with the nm
[14:27] <eagles0513875> im having an issue today where on my home wpa2 enabled network on a nm stored connection with the password in kwallet it is constantly asking for the password
[14:28] <franta> tsimpson: it looks like something is associated with middle click and I can't find a place to change it or somehow cancel to act normally as a middle click
[14:29] <tsimpson> franta: the middle-click has always been to paste what's in the clipboard
[14:29] <tsimpson> that's from X, not KDE afaik
[14:30] <franta> tsimpson: yes, but in kde 3.x when you middle clicked on the desktop there was a menu of some type ... now it places note widget which is pretty strange... and it used to close tabs in firefox which doesn't work now:(
[14:31] <tsimpson> franta: that menu doesn't exist any more
[14:31] <franta> yes...and it was probably my fault didn't notice that it was konqueror...
[14:31] <franta> sorry
[14:32] <franta> tsimpson: is it possible to reconfigure what middle click on desktop does?
[14:32] <franta> yea it works in firefox ...sorry
[14:33] <franta> OH now I get it it pastes clipper to note widget
[14:33] <franta> hmm
[14:34] <tsimpson> yeah, it'll paste a note when you copy/paste text to the desktop
[14:35] <SJr> My 9.10 upgrade seems to have hung, any ideas? The window is just not responding anymore
[14:35] <EagleScreen> SJr: if it continue hanged, kill it and restart it
[14:36] <franta> but it breaks plasma when I try to paste longer text containing hyperlinks :)))) I'll have to get used to all of this new stuff :))) thanks
[14:36] <mugginz> Just noticed the md5sums on the download page are for the rc
[14:37] <SJr> EagleScreen, now I cannot run update-notifier-kde -u, as I don't seem to have python properly installed :)
[14:37] <BluesKaj> there's abug with copy and paste in karmic . if one copies text closes the file and tries to paste the text into the konsole for example , it doesn't paste the line , only the line copied from clipboard
[14:37] <SJr> sudo apt-get update
[14:37] <EagleScreen> SJr: install python then
[14:37] <BluesKaj> mugginz, get rid of any old ppas in you sources.list
[14:38] <mugginz> BluesKaj: See https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KarmicKoala/Final/Kubuntu/Download at the end of the page
[14:38] <mugginz> the md5sums are listed for the RC not the final release
[14:39] <BluesKaj> they haven't changed the page yet
[14:39] <mugginz> not a biggy, but who looks after that?
[14:40] <BluesKaj> the devs i would think
[14:40] <asraniel> hi there. what are there for applications that can burn cds in kubuntu? k3b is sadly so alpha it crashes as soon as the burning starts. any alternatives?
[14:44] <postcard> hi
[14:45] <postcard> hello
[14:45] <postcard> ...
[14:45] <postcard> seems like a channel of the dead
[14:47] <PAgore> EagleScreen: hi EagleScreen :),,, I solved my problem with thumbnails :D,,, it was very easy, let me tell you :)
[14:47] <EagleScreen> tell me
[14:48] <PAgore> i joined my Home Folder and then i made Hide files visible
[14:48] <zbenjamin> hi all
[14:48] <PAgore> then i deleted all files starting with "." and then i restart
[14:48] <zbenjamin> i installed kubuntu 9.10 , first time 64bit os, if is install development libraries and tools are they all 64bit by default?
[14:48] <PAgore> then i lost some configuration but that is ok, now i can watch tumbnails :)
[14:49] <PAgore> maybe you can give the tip to other mans, if they have the same problem :)
[14:49] <EagleScreen> that bhas a name PAgore, test in a clean user enviroment, didn't I tell you before?
[14:49] <PAgore> but ty anyway :D
[14:50] <PAgore> bhas?
[14:50] <PAgore> what is that? :)
[14:50] <EagleScreen> has
[14:50] <EagleScreen> it has a name
[14:52] <BluesKaj> zbenjamin, yes afaik , except for some 32 bit opensource apps of course, which should run ok with ia32-libs installed
[14:53] <zbenjamin> BluesKaj: ok that what i wanted to know, so if i have to compile 32bit apps some day i need to install multilibs stuff
[14:55] <BluesKaj> zbenjamin, yes , even some apps that are in the kubuntu-restricted pkges as well
[14:56] <zbenjamin> BluesKaj: so if i want to compile something with qt, are there extra packages for 64 and 32bit ?
[14:56] <BluesKaj> zbenjamin, apps that reside on repos that are by default commented out in a clean install , for legal resons
[14:57] <BluesKaj> zbenjamin, not sure ,it's worth a google
[14:57] <zbenjamin> another thing, i tried updating to karmic from jaunty and it was horrible, kwin was totally broken also wlan did not work as well as sound
[14:58] <zbenjamin> i had to do a clean install to fix it
[14:58] <zbenjamin> now everything works again
[14:58] <BluesKaj> did you use the update-manager or do the netupgrade from the cli ?
[14:59] <zbenjamin> the update manager told me there is a new distupgrade and i started it from there
[15:00] <Kottisen> How do I make a new user in Kubuntu 9.10 via the graphical interface (not adduser in the terminal)?
[15:00] <BluesKaj> darn , i was told the update manager auto edits changes to the repos to DL and install the proper apps and dependencies
[15:00] <zbenjamin> Kottisen: in system settings
[15:01] <Kottisen> zbenjamin: Under which category?
[15:01] <zbenjamin> system->user management
[15:01] <Kottisen> zbenjamin: Thank you =)
[15:01] <zbenjamin> Kottisen: np
[15:04] <yunosh> i don't have a setting for the desktop theme in karmic anymore. where is it gone?
[15:05] <zbenjamin> rightclick on desktop -> settings for workspace(or something like that)
[15:05] <zbenjamin> there you can choose theme
[15:05] <yunosh> uh, now that is hidden. anybody knows why it doesn't appear in the settings manager?
[15:05] <yunosh> zbenjamin: thanks!
[15:06] <ubuntu__> hi all, I am in installer, setting my password, what does that option with decrypting do?
[15:06] <zbenjamin> np
[15:06] <Shockrates> hi how to i change the encoding of a txt with kate?
[15:07] <yunosh> ubuntu__: automatically encryt your home folder
[15:07] <zbenjamin> hm can i enable home folder enc after installation
[15:07] <ubuntu__> yunosh: and if i have my home folder from previous install?
[15:07] <yunosh> zbenjamin: only manually
[15:08] <Kottisen> I've downloaded a theme (a tar.gz-file). How do I install it?
[15:08] <yunosh> ubuntu__: then you don't use the installer to upgrade ;)
[15:08] <zbenjamin> yunosh: is there a howto?
[15:08] <yunosh> zbenjamin: i think i remember seeing one on help.ubuntu.com
[15:08] <zbenjamin> yunosh: oh thats possible, home on a different partition
[15:09] <ubuntu__> yunosh: ok, ill restart back, thank you
[15:09] <yunosh> Kottisen: in the settings manager where you set theme details, there is a button to install a theme from a local file, try that
[15:10] <zbenjamin> resizing of windows is damn slow
[15:10] <zbenjamin> with composition enabled
[15:10] <jack___> plz help....i have just installed Kubuntu 9.10 and Firefox with flash player. And now when i go to install any package i get The package adobe-flashplugin needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.  Anyone to help me plz?
[15:11] <Kottisen> yunosh: I'm in the "System settings", but I can't find anything about themes. o_O
[15:11]  * zbenjamin hopes the ati opensource driver will be fully functional soon
[15:12] <Shockrates> Guys i use the english system version of kubuntu, so when i open greek txt with kate i cant read it. How do i make it have greek characters by default?
[15:12] <yunosh> Kottisen: hm, can't find it anymore either. maybe i was wrong
[15:12] <Kottisen> yunosh: Okey, thanks anyway.
[15:12] <zbenjamin> i guess you have to change your system locale
[15:13] <jack___> i get " The package adobe-flashplugin needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it."  every time...i can't install any package. Any suggestions to my problem?
[15:13] <Kottisen> zbenjamin: How do you mean?
[15:13] <yunosh> Shockrates: there is a setting in kate to automatically detect the encoding
[15:14] <Shockrates> where is that
[15:15] <jrdnyquist> Nice work on Kubuntu 9.10! Can anyone tell me how to move the panel to the top of the screen?
[15:16] <mugginz> jrdnyquist: Click the cashew things on the right hand side of the bar
[15:17] <mugginz> then use the Screen edge button to drag
[15:17] <jrdnyquist> hmm odd it seems to not work, a left click drag?
[15:17] <mugginz> yep
[15:18] <mugginz> click it, hold it doen, then drag to the scrren edge you want
[15:19] <Creap> I only have empty DVDR's at home, what's the difference between the DVD and CD editions of Kubuntu 9.10?
[15:19] <MarcoPau> BluesKaj: I got it uninstalling networkmanager
[15:19] <zbenjamin> Kottisen: ?
[15:19] <MarcoPau> now I'm back up on kde but kwin crashes. do you guys have any hint? can't even find any log
[15:20] <mugginz> Creap: I find that most packages end uo becoming out of date quickly, and end up getting downloaded anyway, so I just use the CD these days
[15:20] <jrdnyquist> mugginz: doesn't seem to work, I am running two monitors I wonder if that's effecting it
[15:20] <Creap> ok, so the difference is that on the dvd more packages are included?
[15:20] <mugginz> jrdnyquist: I'm using two screens as well
[15:21] <zbenjamin> Kottisen: theme change  rightclick on desktop -> desktopsettings
[15:21] <mugginz> jrdnyquist: Do you get the "Screen Edge" button after clicking the cashew?
[15:21] <jrdnyquist> mugginz: omg ok I see now, a little counter intuiative but it works :p
[15:21] <Shockrates> hi how to i change the encoding of a txt with kate?
[15:21] <Kottisen> zbenjamin: Oh thanks
[15:22] <mugginz> jrdnyquist: No worries. I actually run one on each screen
[15:22] <zbenjamin> btw is multimonitor working now?
[15:22] <vietred> hi, how can I disable some effect for higher performance?
[15:22] <Shockrates> fyu
[15:23] <mugginz> zbenjamin: I've found you still have to edit xorg.conf to get multimonitor
[15:23] <zbenjamin> meh
[15:23] <mugginz> nVidia drivers give you a GUI to do it
[15:23] <tsimpson> vietred: from System Settings -> Desktop
[15:23] <zbenjamin> i thought i saw a config tool for that
[15:23] <Kottisen> Okey, more questions. When I try the sound in "system settings" i can hear it. But Spotify don't play anything when I start a song. Somebody know why?
[15:23] <Kottisen> doesn't*
[15:24] <Kottisen> Eh found it
[15:24] <Kottisen> It was the mixer o_O
[15:24] <vietred> thanks, tsimpson
[15:25] <Kottisen> I REALLY like Kubuntu 9.10 now! =)
[15:26] <mustafa_> Ubuntu have new website also
[15:26] <noaXess> is there a way to convert a ext3 to ext4?
[15:27] <Kottisen> I can't see anything new, mustafa:.
[15:27] <Kottisen> mustafa_: Ohh now :D
[15:27] <ubox> me yoo kottisen, it's very nice :)
[15:28] <store> #hardware
[15:28] <vietred> noaXess: I sure there is, but I don't remember how
[15:28] <mugginz> mustafa_: Looks like they've taken a page outta Apples play book
[15:29] <Kottisen> Mac sucks.
[15:29] <noaXess> vietred: is ext4 really better, faster then ext3?
[15:30] <vietred> noaXess: maybe, ext4 is a high-performance filesystem after all
[15:30] <Kottisen> Is there any button "Hardware drivers" in Kubuntu, as Ubuntu have?
[15:30] <noaXess> vietred: so, switching to ext4 will be fine...
[15:30] <noaXess> Kottisen: look in kmenu and in searchbar search for hardware
[15:31] <Kottisen> I think I found it, thanks.
[15:31] <tsimpson> under System -> Hardware Drivers
[15:31] <desu> in the kubuntu netbook remix, the top panel autohides when an app is run. how do i prevent that?
[15:31] <vietred> noaXess: yeah, upgrade to ext4 from ext3 won't harm your datas
[15:32] <desu> also, i can't seem to be able to add any applet to the top panel... how do i do that?
[15:32] <Kottisen> desu: Rightclick on the panel -> panel settings -> more settings -> autohide i think
[15:32] <desu> Kottisen: the "panel settings" option is not there, lol
[15:32] <jack___> I have a problem with flashplayer. I can't install any package....it throws me a """ The package adobe-flashplugin needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[15:32] <noaXess> vietred: ok..
[15:32] <jack___> any suggestions??
[15:32] <noaXess> jack___: what means apt-cache search flash | grep adobe?
[15:34] <jack___> noaXess: adobe-flashplugin - Adobe Flash Player plugin version 10
[15:34] <noaXess> jack___: karmic?
[15:34] <jack___> noaXess: yes!!
[15:35] <MarcoPau> kwin: ../../src/xcb_io.c:542: _XRead: 'dpy->xcb->reply_data != ((void *)0)' failed.
[15:35] <MarcoPau> do you have a clue on this?
[15:35] <jack___> noaXess: I downloaded flashplayer Deb package from adobe
[15:35] <noaXess> jack___: and sudo apt-get install adobe-flashplugin won't work?
[15:35] <noaXess> aha
[15:35] <Kottisen> When I click "Activate" nothing happend, why? http://cdn.solidfiles.net/i/8b0c79b6b908c071babb0b896c6a77fc.png
[15:35] <noaXess> !flash
[15:36] <noaXess> !flash | jack___
[15:36] <Kottisen> ubottu: You're smart. :D
[15:36] <Kottisen> o_O
[15:37] <vietred> noaXess: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-convert-ext3-to-ext4-file-system.html
[15:37] <rwat> got a kubuntu box coming up with init: sreadahead main process (2163) terminated with status 1
[15:38] <rwat> it's an intel mac mini
[15:38] <alteroo> Kottisen: She's a robot :)
[15:38] <rwat> googling suggests that this has been a problem with sparc
[15:38] <rwat> any idea how to get around it?
[15:39] <noaXess> hey vietred: thanks.. have basket it :)
[15:39] <jack___> noaXess: I can't install any package in my system! neither at konsole nor at Kpackage...throws me an error
[15:40] <noaXess> jack___: pastebin the error..
[15:40] <rwat> can sreadahead be removed?
[15:40] <drakon> Hello, can some help me i have some noob questions
[15:40] <Creap> I'm reinstalling cause my 9.10 install is borken, what should I backup from /etc more than X11/xorg.conf? I have home on a separate partition
[15:40] <drakon> How do i setup my filesharing and my workgroup?
[15:40] <alteroo> !ask | drakon
[15:41] <alteroo> drakon: What kind of filesharing?
[15:41] <alteroo> With windows ?
[15:41] <nusch> I have problem with wifi(iwlagn) after dist-upgrade kubuntu to karmic - driver is loaded corectly , plasma aplet see my AP but clicking on it does nothing
[15:41] <drakon> yes with windows
[15:41] <drakon> and to share a folder on my home network
[15:41] <alteroo> !samba | drakon
[15:42] <nusch> it's wpa/wpa2 personal configured, under 9.04 have sometimes this issue,  kquitapp plasma && /etc/init.d/NetworkManager restart && plasma helped often, but now there is no plasma as an app
[15:43] <jack___> noaXess: http://pastebin.com/d2a47deb3
[15:44] <noaXess> jack___: please run: sudo dpkg -l | grep adobe and pastebinit
[15:45] <jack___> noaXess: http://pastebin.com/m48cb1bd4
[15:46] <vietred> is any upgrade from 8.04 and encounter a mess of error? T_T
[15:47] <bolek> hello
[15:47] <bolek> can any body tell me how to create swap partition ?
[15:48] <DasKreech> bolek: make a partition and format it as swap
[15:49] <DasKreech> !info mkswap
[15:49] <DasKreech> :-P
[15:49] <DasKreech> bolek: The command to format it as swap is mkswap
[15:49] <tsimpson> you create a partition and "format" it as "swap"
[15:50] <tsimpson> you can do that from the LiveCD
[15:50] <tsimpson> just don't edit the partition table of a disk that has any mounted partitions
[15:51] <noaXess> jack___: sorry, was on another terminal :)
[15:51] <Bou> is Amarok 2.2 available for Kubuntu in some easy way?
[15:51] <tsimpson> !info amarok
[15:51] <tsimpson> it's part of karmic
[15:52] <Bou> ok
[15:52] <DasKreech> Bou: likely :)
[15:52] <Bou> will wait the upgrade then, thanks tsimpson
[15:52] <tsimpson> there is also project neon
[15:52] <tsimpson> !neon
[15:52] <Bou> yep right
[15:52] <tsimpson> but that's not totally "stable"
[15:52] <braddunbar> I am getting "Network Management Disabled" on the network manager in the karmic release, how can I troubleshoot this?
[15:52] <jack___> noaXess: is there any chance to make it works?
[15:53] <DasKreech> tsimpson: Though KDE and Amarok and to some extent koffice are remarkably stable for being code in churn
[15:53] <tsimpson> jack___: you need to enable the "partner" repository to get adobe-flashplugin
[15:53] <DasKreech> tsimpson: what's flashplugin-nonfree then ?
[15:54] <tsimpson> DasKreech: I don't know, as far as I can see they install the same thing
[15:54] <jack___> tsimpson: how could i do this?
[15:54] <noaXess> jack___: there is allways a solution....
[15:55] <noaXess> jack___: kpackagekit, software sources i think.. wait
[15:55] <DasKreech> tsimpson: Hnmmm can I list all the packages on a particualr repo ?
[15:59] <tsimpson> DasKreech: I'm not sure where the list is, but it's a normal repository so you can look at the Packages file: http://archive.canonical.com/dists/karmic/partner/binary-i386/Packages
[16:00] <tsimpson> or just look at the .debs under /pool
[16:00] <DasKreech> OK thanks
[16:04] <garez> millet ubuntu 9.04'ten 9.10'na yükseltme kaç mb tutar hızı ne kaç saat/dakika sürer?
[16:05] <tsimpson> !tr
[16:06] <DasKreech> Hmm I need to read more Turkish
[16:12] <tom___> hi guys...  short question:  i made a comparison kubuntu vs. ubuntu on my laptop...  and ubuntu turned out to be MUCH faster....
[16:12] <tom___> does anyone here have an explanation for this?
[16:12] <tom___> because I actually like the kubuntu concept much more
[16:12] <sideu6> hello folks
[16:13] <sideu6> i have a question to ask you folks, it has to do with hosting files on a samba server
[16:13] <jack___> is there any application like Add/Remove, at Kubuntu?
[16:14] <sideu6> and ive been playing with different file formats trying to find the best one that will give me access over samba with minimal performance loss (not counting other factors such as lan traffic) and i decided i would give hfs+ a spin as i read from searching that it has the lowest throughput and the only thing beating its reliability is ext
[16:15] <DasKreech> tom___: Faster how?
[16:15] <sideu6> but when i blasted it to hfs+ with a mac setup disc i couldnt write to it in kubuntu (im testing the new setup with an ext hard disk and a test pc
[16:15] <sideu6> and i cannot figure out how to format the drive in kubuntu, i installed gparted into it and although the option for hfs is there, it will not let me write it
[16:16] <sideu6> so i guess the question is, can linux write to hfs+ at all and if so, how in the world do i format a drive to it
[16:16] <sideu6> in linux
[16:16] <DasKreech> sideu6: You are using the hfsplus driver ?
[16:17] <sideu6> oh there is a driver?
[16:17] <sideu6> i thought i read that it was native in linux
[16:17] <DasKreech> jack___: umm there used to be. Do they still have that in Ubuntu ?
[16:17] <DasKreech> sideu6: Nothing is native in Linux :-)
[16:17] <sideu6> DasKreech: let me check the package manager...
[16:18] <jack___> DasKreech: yes ubuntu has this. but kubuntu has only Kpackage (?) :/
[16:18] <sideu6> dak: what would be the name of the package? hfsplus?
[16:19] <sideu6> think i found it and its claiming its not installed
[16:19] <sideu6> let me loadit up and see how it works with gparted
[16:20] <hemathor> why is the font in firefox (menus, toolbars, etc.) so ridicilously big? how can i change it?
[16:20] <sideu6> hfs is still grayed out in gparted :(
[16:21] <DasKreech> sideu6: restarted it?
[16:21] <sideu6> gparted was closed when i installed the package
[16:21] <bernardo_> hi guys, after upgrading to 9.10, my videos now got this very strong blue-ish color
[16:21] <sideu6> unless you mean do a reboot of the system das
[16:22] <sideu6> ?
[16:22] <sideu6> i suppose i could reboot kubuntu and see if that helps
[16:22] <tom___> DasKreech  when Desktop effects are enabled.. kubuntu reacts very slowly when moving windows  and stuff...  ubuntu is a muich more "fluent" experience
[16:23] <sideu6> well let me restart
[16:23] <sideu6> be right back
[16:23] <tom___> I also use blender frequently..  and  blender is much more usable on ubuntu than on kubuntu, DasKreech
[16:27] <Kottisen> When I click "Activate" nothing happend, why? http://cdn.solidfiles.net/i/8b0c79b6b908c071babb0b896c6a77fc.png
[16:27] <sideu6> ok im back after reboot kascreech, and still no option for formatting hfs+ in gparted
[16:28] <sideu6> should i just format with a mac disc and then go from there with it?
[16:28] <DasKreech> tom___: What video card?
[16:29] <sideu6> *daskreech
[16:29] <DasKreech> sideu6: Normally if I"m playing with Mac filesystems I get the Gparted LiveCD since it's always up to date and has all the options enabled
[16:30] <tom___> DasKreech i got an intel 965gm...  with shared memory and all that stuff
[16:30] <DasKreech> sideu6: Actually if you ask someone with A mac the ydont' use the disk it's horribly destructive
[16:30] <Z0mgitsTr3y> So, 9.10 seemed to have broken my install anyone else getting a black screen after it appears that hal or w/e it uses now finds the keyboard?
[16:30] <DasKreech> tom___: Ah Not sure most people have had a nicer experience with Intel in Koala. You may want to switch yuor rendering mode
[16:31] <DasKreech> Z0mgitsTr3y: Umm the keyboard kills the video ?
[16:31] <sideu6> DasKreech: ive even tried that disc, i have an older gparted but it has hfs options in it, dont help me much though as it wont work on this external
[16:31] <DasKreech> sideu6: Why not?
[16:31] <tom___> DasKreech: what does "switch rendering mode" mean  :)?
[16:31] <sideu6> DasKreech: no idea, just wont let me use hfs+ on the disc
[16:31] <sideu6> other formats are fine
[16:32] <Z0mgitsTr3y> daskreech: I dunno it finds my keyboard than hangs than starts mpd than hangs than a battery check hangs than just goes black
[16:32] <DasKreech> sideu6: hit up ##apple and ask what they use as a solution
[16:33] <genu> Hey, How do you install firefox with the firefox installer? I click on it...and it just says "Requested packages are already installed"?
[16:33] <sideu6> DasKreech: eh might just be the best bet then, i do have the jas disc from playin with osx86 hacks, so i could boot that, nuke the drive i want to be hfs then go back to linux
[16:33] <dwidmann> seems like us.archive.ubuntu.com is slow today ... but I knew it would be
[16:34] <sideu6> DasKreech: sidequestion, is it possible to run fsck on an hfs+ partition?
[16:34] <sideu6> i ask because i figure on production i might have the server down occasionally for updates and such and figure it wouldnt hurt to run fsck on the data drive while i have the samba server down
[16:36] <DasKreech> genu: apt-get install firefox?
[16:37] <DasKreech> sideu6: Yes if you have fsck.hfsplus of course
[16:37] <tom___> ahh DasKreech I found something on google.. does "switch render mode"  i shoudl use gdm instead of kdm?  but I don't know how these two could influence the performance of blender...
[16:38] <DasKreech> !gutsy
[16:38] <tom___> i mean blender does only rely on the xorg server doesn't it?
[16:38] <DasKreech> !dapper
[16:39] <DasKreech> tom___: I'd think that it uses the Video card extensively as well
[16:39] <sideu6> DasKreech: i think i found somthin that might letg me doit from kubuntu :) it is in adept manager called hfsprogs contains mkfs and fsck
[16:39] <DasKreech> tom___: if you like you can join #kwin and let them know about your findings They would be the ones to address it
[16:39] <tom___> kk...  thx.. i'll try that
[16:39] <DasKreech> sideu6: That was it >_<
[16:40] <sideu6> DasKreech: oh..sorry, not totally experienced in linux like i am in windows
[16:41] <DasKreech> sideu6: no that's fine I just forgot that package
[16:41] <DasKreech> !find hfs
[16:43] <sideu6> DasKreech: wondering if this package will finally unlock the gparted tool to write the stupid partition :D
[16:43] <sideu6> only one way to find out...
[16:43] <sideu6> nah not in gparted but im curious if the terminal will do it..
[16:44] <DasKreech> sideu6: :)
[16:44] <DasKreech> what version of gparted?
[16:44] <kde185> I have a question about desktop search.  I have strigi up and running and I just tagged desktop images as 'wallpaper'.  However when I do a search in dolphin for 'wallpaper' all I get is a nepomuk icon that has no function.  Is there something useful that can be done with tagging files(I'm not trying to be provocative here)?
[16:44] <sideu6> DasKreech: gparted 0.3.5
[16:44] <sideu6> its from the repos in kubuntu
[16:45] <DasKreech> sideu6: oh my goodness
[16:45] <sideu6> DasKreech: old?
[16:46] <DasKreech> sideu6: yeah HFS+ support was put in 4 releases after that and that was like early last year
[16:46] <sideu6> DasKreech: ok hmmmmm.....maybe i should see if i could get a newer version then
[16:47] <sideu6> wonderin how i can find that...
[16:47] <DasKreech> which version of    Kubuntu are you using?
[16:47] <DasKreech> !info gparted
[16:47] <DasKreech> ^^^ version 0.4.5
[16:47] <DasKreech> and that's old
[16:48] <sideu6> itsx 8.04 edition
[16:49] <DasKreech> sideu6: Ah that might explain that
[16:49] <sideu6> DasKreech: stayed on older as i figure it would be more stable
[16:49] <DasKreech> !info gprated intrepid
[16:49] <DasKreech> !info gparted intrepid
[16:49] <DasKreech> sideu6: Grab that deb if you can ^^^
[16:50] <DasKreech> Hopefully it's not too tied to Gnome
[16:50] <sideu6> shouldnt be ive added some gnome stuff to this and its fine
[16:51] <flo> kubunru lucid lynx will be a real LTS??
[16:51] <sideu6> DasKreech: dumb question but how do i use the intrepid packages?
[16:51] <sideu6> from adept
[16:51] <DasKreech> flo: yes
[16:51] <DasKreech> sideu6: Umm >_>
[16:51] <flo> DasKreech: not as Hardi Heron
[16:52] <DasKreech> Lets not do that in case you mess up something go to packages.ubuntu.com and search for gparted in Intrepid
[16:52] <DasKreech> flo: Corerct
[16:52] <DasKreech> correct
[16:52] <sideu6> ok das, will try that
[16:53] <flo> okay thaks
[16:53] <sideu6> DasKreech: go to the gnome section?
[16:53] <sideu6> nevermind
[16:53] <sideu6> found an all section
[16:53] <DasKreech> sideu6: There is a search on the front of that website :)
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[16:53] <DasKreech> uYep
[16:54] <flo> i am with 9.04 and amarok has a lot of bug
[16:54] <DasKreech> flo: Such as?
[16:54] <tom___> DasKreech: I just switched compiz with kwin and compiz is MUCH smotther
[16:54] <tom___> *smoother
[16:54] <tom___> so thats where the problem lies :)
[16:54] <flo> the song sorting is bad
[16:55] <sideu6> DasKreech: found it lemme load it up..
[16:55] <DasKreech> tom___: I know :)
[16:56] <DasKreech> tom___: KDE devs are trying as much as possible to do things properly but that sometimes means that Xorg or Drivers don't do what they are supopsed to do or thigns they say that they will do
[16:56] <sideu6> DasKreech: got the package
[16:56] <flo> and wheni listen a .pls flux the titles are not update
[16:56] <DasKreech> compiz is more of a playground for the tech so they jsut really want to make it work
[16:56] <sideu6> now gotta figure how to point it into adept and load her up
[16:56] <DasKreech> sideu6: Ok open a terminal and type sudo dpkg -i /path/to/gparted.deb
[16:57] <sideu6> das:ok hang on
[16:57] <tom___> DasKreech: I am very glad I can still use KDE though.. because I prefer it much over gnome...
[16:57] <DasKreech> flo: Bad? Well I know that's been addresed in 2.2
[16:57] <DasKreech> flo: A .pls of local songs?
[16:57] <flo> no traough internet
[16:58] <DasKreech> tom___: Sure. You can make compiz your default window manager if you like. I"d still recommend that you let #kwin know your experience they can use that to help figure out better ways forward
[16:58] <sideu6> DasKreech: i might have dependancy issues, will the manager deal with that?
[16:58] <sideu6> das:of course it didnt deal with dependancies...
[16:59] <DasKreech> sideu6: That's what I want to see how many depends you have
[16:59] <sideu6> ohh
[16:59] <tom___> ok I will let them know....  DasKreechhow do I make compiz the default manager?
[16:59] <DasKreech> flo: That most likely is the server
[16:59] <DasKreech> tom___: Default applications in System settings of course :)
[17:00] <sideu6> post them here or a pastebin das?
[17:00] <tom___> ahh  "of course" :D
[17:00] <tom___> how did I miss that menu ^^
[17:00] <DasKreech> sideu6: pastebin please
[17:00] <sideu6> sure
[17:01] <nikitis> What version of KDE does 9.10 come with?
[17:01] <sideu6> DasKreech: here you go
[17:01] <sideu6> http://pastebin.com/m451e6fbf
[17:02] <DasKreech> nikitis: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/9.10-release
[17:02] <DasKreech> sideu6: duh of course it needs libparted :)
[17:03] <sideu6> lol
[17:03] <sideu6> well as much as i appreciate the help i gotta run and do somthing at this point
[17:03] <DasKreech> sideu6: ok on the gparted page you shoud have a list that says depends grab those packages and throw them all in a directory. You can sudo dpkg -i /path/to/folder/*.deb
[17:04] <sideu6> will make note of that when i get back
[17:04] <sideu6> DasKreech: thanks again
[17:04] <DasKreech> sideu6: ok you can also probably bump up yuor repos to intrepid and then back down
[17:04] <DasKreech> but thats' slightly more dangerous
[17:04] <sideu6> will talk later das
[17:04] <sideu6> thanks again
[17:04] <DasKreech> in terms of if you make a misstep
[17:04] <DasKreech> COol
[17:05] <omar> Hi all
[17:05] <djSupport-linux> Hiya new to linux well so so I have a problem I've just downloaded latest nvidia deivers it comes in a .run package how do I install that?
[17:06] <flo> DasKreech: when i talk in a jabber chat i am disconected from my account you know?
[17:06] <djSupport-linux> drivers^
[17:06] <DasKreech> flo: which server?
[17:06] <DasKreech> Google or some other?
[17:07] <DasKreech> djSupport-linux: open a terminal and cd to where you downloaded it
[17:07] <flo> DasKreech: im.apinc.org
[17:07] <djSupport-linux> k
[17:08] <flo> i want talk in a jabber room when i send one word i am immediatly disconnected
[17:08] <nikitis> djSupport-linux: hit Ctrl + Alt+ F6.  login.  Type sudo apt-get install build-essential.  Then kill KDM.  Then type "sudo sh NVIDIA-Package.run".  Then when done, type kdm
[17:08] <DasKreech> flo: what version of Kopete?
[17:09] <yofel> djSupport-linux: why do you need the driver from the nvidia site?
[17:09] <flo> DasKreech: 0.70.2
[17:09] <nikitis> yofel: cause the latest isn't offered
[17:09] <DasKreech> flo: ok can you file a bug on bugs.kde.org
[17:10] <DasKreech> flo: You can probably aslo ask in #kopete I've not heard of that but the last time I was in a mass jabber chat room was about two years ago
[17:10] <yofel> nikitis: and why does he need the latest? (there is a ppa for the 190 one)
[17:11] <harjot> anyone free?
[17:11] <yofel> harjot: depends on your question
[17:11] <harjot> ok
[17:11] <harjot> my friend has a mac
[17:12] <harjot> he has somethign i DONT KNOW WHAT but he uses it to shutdown my computer without ssh or anyting
[17:12] <harjot> and its annoying
[17:12] <harjot> how do i prevent it excluding connecting from the netwwork
[17:12] <flo> what else? KDE is very beautifull
[17:12] <tsimpson> unless he can login in some way, he can't shutdown your computer
[17:12] <sccolbert_> has anyone had problem using easy_install on 9.10?
[17:13] <harjot> that is what i thought BUT HE CAN
[17:13] <harjot> tsimpson: i reallly dont know how
[17:13] <djSupport-linux> woops buggered that up
[17:13] <harjot> tsimpson: remote shutdown is disbaled
[17:13] <tsimpson> harjot: he would need root access to do it, maybe he installed something on your system to do it
[17:13] <harjot> tsimpson: hes a script kiddie
[17:13] <djSupport-linux> yofel: in the packjage manager there was no latest driver
[17:13] <harjot> tsimpson: hes not clever enough to even code
[17:14] <harjot> tsimpson: or write a bash/even a bat script!
[17:14] <tsimpson> harjot: look at the output of "sudo netstat -lnp" too see what ports are listening for connections
[17:14] <harjot> tsimpson: his COUSIN gave him something
[17:14] <djSupport-linux> yofel: I first installed latest driver from there then the app I was trying to get to work better failed completely
[17:14] <tsimpson> harjot: some process must be listening to let someone connect over the network
[17:14] <djSupport-linux> yofel: so went in search of an update
[17:15] <harjot> tsimpson: nothing suspicous il pastebin
[17:15] <yofel> djSupport-linux: search google for 'ubuntu nvidia ppa 190' and use the package from the vdpau ppa if you want to test the 190 beta driver
[17:16] <sccolbert_> is there any particular reason why python 2.6.4 setuptools whould choke when connecting to the internet?
[17:16] <harjot> tsimpson: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/305220/
[17:16] <harjot> btw
[17:16] <harjot> ica is italc and i set that up
[17:17] <harjot> im now actually scared of this
[17:17] <DasKreech> flo: :-)
[17:17] <harjot> how is it possible
[17:17] <tsimpson> harjot: how do you know he's not using SSH?
[17:17] <harjot> hes definitely not
[17:17] <harjot> definitely
[17:17] <DasKreech> harjot: you turned off SSH I guess
[17:17] <harjot> no but he dont know my password
[17:18] <harjot> wait let me see if he does
[17:18] <tsimpson> harjot: how do you know he does not know your password?
[17:18] <tsimpson> or setup another user
[17:18] <yofel> harjot: anything in /var/log/auth.log ?
[17:18] <harjot> ive just killed sshd
[17:18] <harjot> let me see
[17:18] <DasKreech> harjot: How many users are on your machine?
[17:19] <DasKreech> Yuo have logs :) he's very much not smart enough to change the logs
[17:19] <DasKreech> few people are
[17:19] <harjot> ok
[17:19] <harjot> i have a guest user with no priviledges and myself
[17:21] <harjot> nothing in auth.log
[17:21] <harjot> but theres a auth.one.log
[17:21] <harjot> and it has jun stuff
[17:21] <harjot> so theres a auth.2.gz
[17:21] <tsimpson> those are backups, the higher the number the older the log
[17:23] <harjot> nothing in auth.log
[17:23] <harjot> NOTHING
[17:23] <djSupport-linux> yofel: I have added the software source to package manager from ppa website
[17:23] <djSupport-linux> yofel: its now in package manager
[17:23] <djSupport-linux> yofel: but says a dependcy is missing
[17:24] <yofel> djSupport-linux: there is  an issue with the libxine packages, just install the nvidia-glx-190 package and keep the libxine package at the karmic version
[17:25] <yofel> you can disable the ppa after that if you don't want to get those messages all the time
[17:25] <DasKreech> harjot: How old is the file/ when was it last touched ?
[17:25] <djSupport-linux> yofel: its not in the list
[17:26] <harjot> 6:51
[17:27] <jamesjedimaster> harjot: did you see the output of the "last" command? there you can see who logs in and when
[17:27] <harjot> 28/06/2009!!!!!!!!
[17:27] <djSupport-linux> yofel: are the transitional packages just updates for the current driver?
[17:27] <yofel> djSupport-linux: nvidia-glx-190 IS in the list here
[17:28] <harjot> what is the """last""" comnand meant to be?
[17:28] <nikitis> How do you do a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade?
[17:29] <nikitis> cause i typed that in, and i get nothing
[17:29] <jamesjedimaster> last shows who logs in in your system
[17:29] <yofel> nikitis: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[17:30] <nikitis> yofel: no, that didn't work
[17:30] <djSupport-linux> yofel: if I type in the add/remove software nvidia-glx-190 it shows two items if I try to download evither one it both says the dependce error
[17:30] <yofel> nikitis:then you probably have no updates available
[17:31] <nikitis> yofel: Well i know 9.10 is a pretty big update that i don't have.
[17:31] <djSupport-linux> lol
[17:31] <yofel> lol
[17:31] <tsimpson> harjot: typing "last" into a terminal shows listing of last logged in users
[17:31] <genu> hey how do you install firefox?
[17:31] <harjot> i  just did
[17:31] <yofel> nikitis: then please say you want to upgrade to 9.10
[17:31] <harjot> he started doing it today o friday
[17:31] <genu> I click on firefox installer...and I just get a message that "requested packages are already installed"?
[17:32] <nikitis> yofel: No offense, but i thought dist-upgrade would have been a clue
[17:32] <yofel> either use 'update-notifier-kde' or 'do-release-upgrade' if you have no gui
[17:32] <djSupport-linux> genu: I only installed yesterday and it hadnt got rid of the installer just further down the list was the firefox icon
[17:32] <yofel> nikitis: the 'dist-uprade' command doesn't work the same in ubuntu and debian ;)
[17:32] <harjot> cant understand friday
[17:33] <genu> i don't get it...
[17:33] <nikitis> ah well i didn't know that, but dist stands for distribution upgrade
[17:33] <harjot> i wwill patebin
[17:33] <yofel> nikitis: apt-get dist-upgrade is the default way to install regular updates from the cli here
[17:33] <djSupport-linux> anyway im buggeres
[17:33] <djSupport-linux> how can I check my driver version at the moment
[17:34] <yofel> djSupport-linux: did you install the .run file from nvidia? if not check what nvidia-glx-___ package you have installed
[17:34] <harjot> the last line is the only relevant line today, which is when he started doing it
[17:34] <harjot> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/305234/
[17:35] <djSupport-linux> yofel: havent installed yet was going to untill i read both yours and the other persons messages
[17:35] <nikitis> djSupport-linux: did you try my method?
[17:36] <djSupport-linux> nikitis: I was on my way to but then didnt realise i'd need to write it down first!
[17:36] <nikitis> djSupport-linux: lol
[17:36] <djSupport-linux> nikitis: and didnt know how to get kde back lol
[17:36] <harjot> guys helping me you there?
[17:36] <nikitis> to get back it's ctrl+alt+f7
[17:36] <djSupport-linux> doh
[17:36] <DasKreech> genu: sudo apt-get install firefox
[17:36] <djSupport-linux> tok brbr
[17:36] <nikitis> to go to commandline it's ctrl+alt+f6
[17:36] <nikitis> try it now
[17:36] <nikitis> works nicely
[17:36] <djSupport-linux> would that work in a console?
[17:36] <harjot> genu: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/305234/
[17:36] <nikitis> yes
[17:37] <nikitis> do it now
[17:37] <djSupport-linux> so no need to ctrl
[17:37] <nikitis> oh no
[17:37] <nikitis> you have to kill the gui to install the nvidia drivers
[17:37] <harjot> tsimpson: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/305234/
[17:37] <ghostcube> hehe dont be too fast with ttyx explanation
[17:37] <ghostcube> :D
[17:37] <harjot> DasKreech: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/305234/
[17:37] <ghostcube> never give ctrl alt f2 before ctrl alt f7
[17:37] <ghostcube> -_-
[17:37] <djSupport-linux> that'll be the kill kdm command
[17:38] <nikitis> right
[17:38] <genu> i just don't understand the point of the "firefox installer" ...if I still have to do sudo apt-get ...
[17:38] <nikitis> but you have to do it from within a ttyl terminal
[17:38] <ghostcube> logout to kdm login screen
[17:38] <ghostcube> open terminal session from menu
[17:38] <ghostcube> and then sudo killall kdm
[17:38] <nikitis> which is ctrl+alt+F1-F6 for your purposes
[17:38] <yofel> err... kill kdm? why not stop the kdm service?
[17:39] <nikitis> once kdm is dead
[17:39] <djSupport-linux> god help me
[17:39] <nikitis> actually
[17:39] <nikitis> just msg me
[17:39] <ghostcube> yofel: if you logged out it the same
[17:39] <ghostcube> :|
[17:39] <jamesjedimaster> harjot: he connects from rishi.mehtas-mac with your username, so you must change your own password
[17:39] <yofel> ghostcube: from tty?
[17:39] <ghostcube> nah
[17:39] <ghostcube> logout to login screen
[17:39] <ghostcube> choose terminal session
[17:39] <ghostcube> killalll kdm
[17:40] <ghostcube> same as /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[17:40] <djSupport-linux> your all confusing the situation lol
[17:40] <ghostcube> hehe sorry
[17:40] <yofel> ghostcube: yeah, so why not just stop it?
[17:40] <yofel> djSupport-linux: ignore me for now
[17:40] <ghostcube> faster to type
[17:40] <ghostcube> iam lazy
[17:40] <djSupport-linux> k
[17:40] <pmazur> hey actually in new kubuntu it should be "service kdm stop"
[17:40] <djSupport-linux> yes new kubuntu
[17:41] <yofel> pmazur: that's why i said 'stop kdm'
[17:41] <ghostcube> yofel: sudo stop kdm is the same as killing it
[17:41] <DasKreech> nikitis: please don't do that
[17:41] <yofel> ghostcube: and you are really sure that upstart won't have any issues with that?
[17:42] <ghostcube> hmmm why should it ? i always do this
[17:42] <ghostcube> it has no temp files to store
[17:42] <ghostcube> could get damaged
[17:42] <ghostcube> *'nt
[17:42] <yofel> ghostcube: i know that sysvinit didn't have, but upstart actually keeps track of the service states,  so running kdm with killed kdm isn't that good
[17:42] <DasKreech> genu: I don't know for some people it breaks Still trying to figure it out
[17:42] <ghostcube> yofel: in karmic ?
[17:42] <ghostcube> iam still in jaunty
[17:43] <yofel> ghostcube: yes
[17:43] <genu> i see
[17:43] <ghostcube> iam just updating at the moment
[17:43] <ghostcube> in terminal by do.release-upgrade
[17:43] <ghostcube> yofel: ok if upstart is recognizing something then stop is better way
[17:43] <ghostcube> havent knoen this
[17:44] <harjot> my support team are now gone
[17:44] <djSupport-linux> lol
[17:45] <yofel> well, I'm off for dinner, bbl
[17:45] <DasKreech> harjot: I guess the line 37 is your ulprit
[17:46] <harjot> the last line is only relevant to today  thoguh?
[17:47] <desu> i recently upgraded from jaunty to karmic. how do i enable ayatana notifications instead of the default kde notifications?
[17:47] <harjot> DasKreech: i just did a portscan on myself and found these port open?
[17:47] <harjot> 38731,49873
[17:48] <kyniker> hi
[17:49] <tsimpson> harjot: those are probably the connection for your web browser and irc client
[17:49] <harjot> oh ok
[17:49] <CPrgmSwR2> Good morning
[17:50] <CPrgmSwR2> anyone having issue with there sound on karmic koala?
[17:50] <DasKreech> hi CPrgmSwR2 I have not seen yuo in ages!
[17:50] <CPrgmSwR2> oh hey daskreech
[17:50] <DasKreech> CPrgmSwR2: how are you?
[17:50] <DasKreech> Other than no sound ;)
[17:50] <DasKreech> djSupport-linux: how are you doing with your problem ?
[17:50] <CPrgmSwR2> I am doing okay, I think I get the swine flu and have been sick for the last 4 days
[17:51] <CPrgmSwR2> get = got
[17:52] <CPrgmSwR2> Everyone keeps saying nvidia no long does audio sound cards which I understand, but it doesn't make since why it would work in 9.04 and in 9.10 it will not
[17:52] <DasKreech> CPrgmSwR2: Have you been folowing Gluon?
[17:52] <CPrgmSwR2> No
[17:53] <DasKreech> CPrgmSwR2: They just had a code sprint looks good
[17:53] <DasKreech> What sound card do you have ?
[17:53] <DasKreech> I assume you tried the normal stuff like unmuting the card etc?
[17:54] <CPrgmSwR2> results of searches people make on their Android phones. Verizon is also planning to
[17:54] <CPrgmSwR2> I have been working with just alsa
[17:54] <CPrgmSwR2> I have downloaded a wav file which I have tried playing with playl
[17:54] <DasKreech> ok
[17:55] <CPrgmSwR2> my playback shows up as HDA NVidia (CONEXANT Analog)
[17:55] <CPrgmSwR2> There is also a digital version of it
[17:56] <CPrgmSwR2> #455912
[17:56] <CPrgmSwR2> That is the bug number I filed for the issue
[18:00] <jimmy51_> freshly burned 9.10 CD in hand, i'll be upgrading over the weekend
[18:00] <jimmy51_> whoohoo
[18:01] <DasKreech> jimmy51_: Or installing :)
[18:01] <dasme> just installed netbook edition , love it :)
[18:01] <CPrgmSwR2> jimmy51_: yeah interesting
[18:01] <nikitis> is there no longer an xorg.conf file in 9.10?
[18:01] <DasKreech> CPrgmSwR2: Hmm that's not a normally problematic card. Did you run alsamixer to make sure thigns weren't uted ?
[18:02] <DasKreech> nikitis: NOt that i know of
[18:02] <CPrgmSwR2> DasKreech: I am positive the alsamixer has the 00 at the bottom to signal that it is not muted
[18:02] <jimmy51_> does the OEM installtion "Prepare for Shipping" let you configure a system, install apps, and wrap it up so it can be utilized on other systems?
[18:02] <nikitis> DasKreech: this guy i'm working with claimes he has no xorg.conf file
[18:03] <nikitis> DasKreech: located in xorg.conf
[18:03] <Mamarok> nikitis: there is none by default since HAL takes over the configuration
[18:03] <CPrgmSwR2> nikitis: let me check
[18:03] <teliti> Hi. How to make dragon player play avi files?
[18:03] <nikitis> Mamarok: wth?  Does it use xorg.conf if there's one there?
[18:03] <Mamarok> teliti: install the kubuntu-restricted-extras package
[18:03] <robin0800> nikitis: not on a clean install though you can add one
[18:04] <nikitis> robin0800: and it will use it
[18:04] <Mamarok> nikitis: it should prefer the xorg.conf if there is one, yes
[18:04] <CPrgmSwR2> I have no xorg.conf file
[18:04] <robin0800> nikitis: yes
[18:04] <nikitis> Mamarok: thanks
[18:04] <neighborlee> just kubuntu have crash handler active ?
[18:04] <DasKreech> nikitis: So far no
[18:05] <DasKreech> Mamarok: Thuogh that hasnt' been my experience
[18:05] <CPrgmSwR2> The must frustrating problem with linux is hardware compatibility
[18:05] <Mamarok> neighborlee: sorry, I don't understand your question
[18:05] <neighborlee> Mamarok: if a application crashes.it catches the crash and sends in report..
[18:05] <neighborlee> Mamarok: like fedora has
[18:05] <DasKreech> CPrgmSwR2: Yep have you checked in #alsa ?
[18:05] <CPrgmSwR2> DasKreech: no I hadn't
[18:05] <Mamarok> neighborlee: so your question is to know if there is a crash handler in Kubuntu? Of course, what a question :)
[18:06] <DasKreech> neighborlee: Yes it uses the built ni KDE one
[18:06] <DasKreech> in
[18:06] <neighborlee> Mamarok:its a fair question , not all distros have this
[18:06] <Mamarok> neighborlee: it should start Dr. Konqi by default
[18:06] <yofel> neighborlee: apport is disabled by default in the release
[18:06] <neighborlee> Mamarok: does it make you file crash manually..or do it automaticallly for you
[18:06] <Mamarok> neighborlee: well, they should at least use Dr. Konqi if they ship KDE
[18:06] <nikitis> Mamarok: how long has that been in effect?
[18:06] <neighborlee> yofel: 9.10 you mean ?
[18:06] <teliti> Mamarok: it seems to reject installing that package
[18:06] <Mamarok> neighborlee: sorry, but that makes no sense, it doesn't crash the application
[18:07] <nikitis> Mamarok: my 9.04 had an xorg.conf file
[18:07] <jimmy51_> can a kubuntu system installed in OEM mode be imaged and redepolyed on other machines (with different hardware) after running the "prepare for shipping" app?
[18:07] <neighborlee> Mamarok: im speaking plain english.whats wrong with you
[18:07] <Mamarok> nikitis: because you added one I guess
[18:07] <neighborlee> Mamarok: I said..if a applicatoin crashes..does it send in the report automatically...
[18:07] <Mamarok> or because you upgraded from a previous version
[18:08] <Mamarok> neighborlee: no, it shows you what is wrong, if the crash report is valid and then you can search for duplicate entries directly before sending (what you should do anyway)
[18:08] <nikitis> Mamarok: i'm very very sure it was there on my fresh install of 9.04.  But anyway, i guess i missed that change in how linux works.
[18:08] <Mamarok> neighborlee: but you need an account on bugs.kde.org to send a report first, anyway
[18:09] <Mamarok> neighborlee: and please don't send any reports that are not marked as useful :)
[18:09] <neighborlee> Mamarok: thats lame...no end user is going to be able..or willing to messs with that imho anyway..dont we want end users able to send in reports about prob lems they encounter with the system ?
[18:09] <Mamarok> nikitis: it was gone on Jaunty already
[18:09] <DasKreech> neighborlee: You don't want to send in every crash automatically
[18:09] <neighborlee> Mamarok: I can do it..im a geek man!..but my friend sally would be totally confused.
[18:09] <Mamarok> neighborlee: well, of course they are, it just prevents people from sending in stuff that is not useful
[18:10] <neighborlee> DasKreech: well , as long as i ts 'easy' to do..then fine.. ;)
[18:10] <DasKreech> neighborlee: It's quite good actually it asks you two questions then rates how useful it would be to submit it
[18:10] <Mamarok> neighborlee: since the apport system made sending reports far too easily, and 90% of those were totally useless, since most people don't have debugging packages installed
[18:10] <genu> Hey, can someone guide into rotating my second display 180 degrees? (I have nvida card, and nvidia-settings installed)
[18:10] <CPrgmSwR2> DasKreech: Other than sound and suspend/resume everything works great on linux
[18:10] <DasKreech> If it's useless then it wont' submit though it tells you how to do it manually if you want to
[18:10] <neighborlee> DasKreech: ok gotcha thank yo for informatoin
[18:10] <teliti> Is there a reason for when I try to install kubuntu-restricted-extra it does not do anything? Did I forget anything?
[18:11] <neighborlee> DasKreech: excellent ;)
[18:11] <neighborlee> DasKreech: thank you so much for your help on this issue.
[18:11] <Mamarok> DasKreech: you can submit a useles report, but you have to decide yourself if it's sent or not
[18:11] <Mamarok> useless*
[18:11] <BluesKaj> teliti, make sure all your repos are enabled in your package manager
[18:11] <neighborlee> Mamarok: thanks for your help
[18:11] <DasKreech> neighborlee: if it's good then it will search for another report that's close and ask if you would like to add to this one or make a new one. IF you want to make a new one then it's send it in automatically once you supply a login for bugs.kde.org
[18:11] <Mamarok> neighborlee: you are welcome
[18:11] <dios_mio> first time using kubuntu
[18:12] <teliti> BluesKaj: KPackageKit, right? Where are the repos there?
[18:12] <Mamarok> dios_mio: hi, do you have a support question?
[18:12] <DasKreech> neighborlee: having 900 automatic bugs for a known crash problem is not useful it makesi t hard to find the 3 crash reports that are not known and need to be worked on
[18:12] <teliti> opps I have them :-)
[18:12] <neighborlee> DasKreech: yes I get that
[18:12] <teliti> thanks to Mamarok and BluesKaj
[18:12] <DasKreech> it's a co-operation between the user and the developers if she can understand that it helps
[18:12] <BluesKaj> teliti, also "other sources" , except for the cdrom
[18:12] <Mamarok> teliti: you are welcome :)
[18:12] <neighborlee> DasKreech: long as the  registering process isn't daunting for end users..then im fine with it..not everyone is a geek ;)
[18:13] <DasKreech> Also once she starts getting e-mails from the developers she's likely to appreciate it more ;)
[18:13] <Mamarok> neighborlee: everybody can make a registration, that's not difficult :)
[18:13] <DasKreech> neighborlee: if you think it is you can make one for her adn save it in the kde wallet
[18:13] <BluesKaj> teliti, NP, good luck
[18:13] <DasKreech> The password will get sent to her e-mail address
[18:14] <DasKreech> looks like harjot got rebooted again
[18:14] <neighborlee> Mamarok: good to know.
[18:14] <neighborlee> Mamarok: sorry for ten thousand questions..I just had to know up frontk,or have my best friend KILLL ME
[18:15] <Mamarok> neighborlee: take care, then :)
[18:15] <neighborlee> hehe
[18:15] <esperegu_> after upgrading to karmic I don't see all the sound channels anymore in the mixer. And alsamixer gives this error:alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory .... Any suggetions???
[18:15] <BluesKaj> esperegu_, reinstall alsa-utils
[18:16] <jimmy51_> can a kubuntu system installed in OEM mode be imaged and redepolyed on other machines (with different hardware) after running the "prepare for shipping" app?
[18:16] <BluesKaj> esperegu_, and alsa-base
[18:16] <Mamarok> jimmy51_: I guess so, never used that
[18:16] <DasKreech> neighborlee: She seems passionate about crashes :)
[18:16] <neighborlee> LOL
[18:16] <neighborlee> DasKreech: she passionate about EVERYthing
[18:16] <DasKreech> jimmy51_: I would suspect so
[18:16] <DasKreech> neighborlee: Good quality
[18:16] <neighborlee> DasKreech: she's
[18:16] <Mamarok> neighborlee: we can use bug triager in KDE and Kubuntu :)
[18:17] <neighborlee> good to hear it
[18:17] <neighborlee> Mamarok: what did yofel mean about it being disabled in this release?
[18:17] <jimmy51_> Mamarok, DasKreech: ok... but not for sure?
[18:17] <Mamarok> neighborlee: the apport report system is disabled, since it ran completely wild in KDE and produced a lot of useless noise
[18:17] <DasKreech> bigbrovar: shhhhh don't tell jargon
[18:18] <Mamarok> now Kubuntu sues the default Dr. Konqi report system of KDE
[18:18] <neighborlee> Mamarok: ahhh ok ic , good.
[18:18] <Maarten-> I have a laptop with docking station here (HP elitebook 6930p) and a external VGA 24" monitor connected to the VGA port on the docking station.... it COPIES the laptop screen desktop, but can't seem to find where to set it as a SECOND monitor to extend the desktop. Any ideas? (running Kubuntu 9.10)
[18:18] <DasKreech> jimmy51_: Going on the prinicple that you can image anything I'm pretty sure you can image it
[18:18] <Mamarok> Maarten-: check in the systemsettings -> display
[18:19] <jimmy51_> DasKreech: hehe, well I can definitely capture an image.  the question is how gracefully that installation will handle booting up on different hardware.
[18:19] <bigbrovar> DasKreech> :)
[18:20] <DasKreech> jimmy51_: So far I've not found a problem your kernel cache has more to do with that than anything but if you have seriously different hardware you should be testing it as an OEM in any case
[18:20] <Maarten-> Mamarok: I am there.... it says "it appears that you do not have a dual monitor configuration" - which I have. (and I know its working in both XP and 7 multiboots on the same system)
[18:21] <dios_mio> Mamarok: yes i have a question.. when i try and install things in terminal it says something about pdpkg lock
[18:21] <drakon> HI, got a problem, I installed samba to sare files on my home network but after installing it and seting me Workgroup I can't open the other computers on my network with the same workgroup, did i do something wrong?
[18:21] <BluesKaj> dios_mio, close your package manager
[18:22] <DasKreech> bigbrovar: Oy! do you have TB3 on Kubuntu ?
[18:22] <dios_mio> BluesKaj: thanks man
[18:22] <BluesKaj> dios_mio, np
[18:22] <drakon> Im running Kubuntu 9.10
[18:23] <teliti> BluesKaj: Does one has to download the mutlibuntu cd? I do net get which repo URL I have to add ...
[18:23] <bigbrovar> DasKreech> u mean thunderbird 3? yeah i tried it for 5min and went back to tb2 .. the UI was uninspiring IMHO + the fonts looked out of place
[18:23] <sideu6> ok room im back
[18:24] <CPrgmSwR2> bizzare
[18:24] <BluesKaj> teliti, mutlibuntu cd?  pls expalin
[18:24] <jimmy51_> DasKreech: thanks
[18:25] <utku> I'm an Arch Linux user and I want to switch to a more user friendly distro for a while. Actually I don't like Kubuntu but can 9.10 change my mind?
[18:25] <jimmy51_> DasKreech: i have a standard list of stuff I do post install for family members tired of windows.  i'm going to try to make my own disk image that's good to go if possible.
[18:25] <teliti> BluesKaj: as far as I can see I do not have any entry for a mutlibuntu repo there ...
[18:25] <DasKreech> Mamarok: Maybe you can help
[18:25] <Mamarok> DasKreech: where?
[18:25] <BluesKaj> teliti, where?
[18:25] <sideu6> DasKreech: back to what we were doing, let me get the missing libraries and i will install them
[18:25] <DasKreech> sideu6 needs a newer version of gparted to do hfsplus
[18:25] <Mamarok> utku: get yourself a LIVE CD and check it out, but bve aware that the live CD only has a limited set of apps due to its size
[18:26] <drakon> HI, got a problem, I installed samba to sare files on my home network but after installing it and seting me Workgroup I can't open the other computers on my network with the same workgroup, did i do something wrong?
[18:26] <yofel> teliti: do you by chance mean medibuntu?
[18:26] <DasKreech> Mamarok: basically needs a version from Ibex what would be the easiest way to pull that?
[18:26] <unleashed> hi... i cant speak english...sory...my laptop is intel core2duo...Which one should I use?kubuntu 32bit or 64bit?
[18:26] <utku> Mamarok: OK, I'll give it a try. Thanks.
[18:26] <yofel> DasKreech: packages.ubuntu.com ?
[18:26] <teliti> opps thx medibuntu ... argh, sorry I'm very new to kubuntu
[18:26] <Maarten> Ah... I found some more on it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-workspace/+bug/403610 - still a bug in KDE right now apperantly.
[18:26] <DasKreech> yofel: That's what I said
[18:26] <Mamarok> DasKreech: hm, go to the repo and get the deb by hand
[18:26] <bigbrovar> utku> you might want to wait for a while for the dust to settle and all the bugs (if any) squashed. beside audio problem and graphic performance karmic is cool
[18:27] <DasKreech> Mamarok: Ok was just checking
[18:27] <EagleScreen> I recommend Kubuntu 32 bits
[18:27] <Mamarok> DasKreech: but why not the one from Karmic or Jaunty?
[18:27] <DasKreech>  bigbrovar Wehre did yo uget the Deb
[18:27] <yofel> DasKreech: uups, misunderstood the situation ;)
[18:27] <DasKreech> Mamarok: He's on hardy
[18:27] <bigbrovar> DasKreech> hey brb .. need to go grab my usual friday BBQ
[18:27] <yofel> !medibuntu | teliti
[18:27] <DasKreech>  assuming that sideu6 is a he
[18:27] <sideu6> DasKreech: when i go to get the first lib component from the pastebin i posted previously and go to get the first package which is libcairomm it has a list of other packages i need
[18:27] <DasKreech> bigbrovar: DAMN YOU!!!!
[18:27] <sideu6> on the download page
[18:27] <BluesKaj> teliti, there is no multibuntu repos that i know of , are you trying to edit the souces.list or the package manager ?
[18:27] <Mamarok> DasKreech: behave, please!
[18:28] <DasKreech> Mamarok: :-) he's teasing me with Friday BBQ
[18:28] <sideu6> should i grab those too? or see if what i get compiles ok and add what is missing
[18:28] <teliti> ahh, thx both of us :-)
[18:28] <bigbrovar> DasKreech> I know : )
[18:28] <BluesKaj> teliti, err sources.list
[18:28] <Mamarok> DasKreech: bigbrovar take your discussion to -offtopic, please
[18:28] <DasKreech> sideu6: You'll be running things down for oodles of time try to get the minimum that you need
[18:29] <DasKreech> djSupport-linux: How are you?
[18:29] <sideu6> DasKreech: got it :)
[18:29] <bigbrovar> Mamarok> sorry I will
[18:29] <Mamarok> nice :)
[18:29] <dios_mio> !mp3
[18:30] <djSupport-linux> erm getting there
[18:30] <BluesKaj> yofel, good one, medibuntu is prolly wht he meant
[18:30] <Mamarok> dios_mio: just install the kubuntu-restricted-extras package
[18:30] <dios_mio> ok thx
[18:30] <bigbrovar> Mamarok> btw i finally filed a bug concerning my audio probs https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/463716 (just tot you should know)
[18:30] <gue> hi there
[18:31] <yofel> BluesKaj: yeah, though I really would like to see a k/x/ubuntu live-dvd, so you can install what you want from just one usb-pendrive XD
[18:31] <Mamarok> bigbrovar: thanks
[18:31] <yofel> BluesKaj: as an interpretation of 'multibuntu' ;)
[18:31] <gue> keramic doesn't recognize my nvidia graphics card :( :(
[18:31] <BluesKaj> yofel, that would be cool
[18:32] <Mamarok> ok, off for today, gn8 everyone :)
[18:32] <gue> when i install the nvidia-glx-XXX package by hand the driver gets loaded after a reboot, but still my screen runs in a wrong resolution :(
[18:32] <gue> and i'm not able to set the right resolution via xrandr :( :(
[18:32] <yofel> gue: tried nvidia-settings?
[18:32] <gue> yofel: yep
[18:32] <DasKreech> yofel: Isn't the DVD exactly that?
[18:32] <flo> konqueror use gecko?
[18:33] <sccolbert_> why would i not be able to access python.org, but other sites work fine, and may roomate can access python.org on his windows box?
[18:33] <sccolbert_> this is kubuntu 9.10
[18:33] <gue> nvidia-settings also tells me, that my screen is only able to do 800x600
[18:33] <funkiwan> hey all. i just upgraded to karmic, and am finding alt+tab switching quite slow. any thoughts on what might be going on, or where to look?
[18:33] <yofel> DasKreech: really? I don't think it was the last time I tried it, but maybe I just missed it, will try it again sometime
[18:34] <intech> hallo leute
[18:34] <gue> are there issues with the current nvidia driver?
[18:35] <DasKreech> yofel: it has all of main so you can install kubuntu-desktop xubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-desktop from it
[18:35] <baron86> Hello.. I want to ask where is the GRUB GUI in the new Karmic Koala
[18:35] <sccolbert_> why would i not be able to access python.org, but other sites work fine, and may roomate can access python.org on his windows box? kubuntu 9.10
[18:35] <sideu6> kas: this remindes me of how convienent a package manager is
[18:35] <yofel> DasKreech: ok, thx
[18:36] <sideu6> *das
[18:36] <DasKreech> sideu6: Yeah I'd bump up yoru repos and get you to install and bump them back down but that's pretty much a reinstall if you really mess up
[18:36] <DasKreech> This way you control what changes
[18:36] <sideu6> yeah i figured that could get ugly...
[18:36] <funkiwan> sccolbert_: make sure there's nothing in your hosts file. grep -i python /etc/hosts
[18:37] <DasKreech> sideu6: I do it but then I'm careful about reading what it's doing and i check wht it's supposed to do
[18:38] <sccolbert_> funkiwan: there's nothing there, though i was just able to connect to python.org after letting firefox attempt to connect for ~5minutes,
[18:38] <sideu6> DasKreech: i wouldnt be reckless with it, i think it would just blow up and ask everything and its mother to update which would confuse me to no end
[18:38] <sccolbert_> funkiwan: no other site exhibit this slowness, and python.org is not slow for my roomate
[18:38] <drakon> Can anyone tell me how to setup samba for file sharing on Kubuntu 9.10
[18:39] <DasKreech> sideu6: On the upside here I'm issuing an install gparted and it' listing 20 packages so more or less if you hit that limit then we can look at just grabbing the latest live CD since that means it's going to start chainging system stuff
[18:39] <yofel> !samba | drakon
[18:39] <funkiwan> sccolbert_: maybe force reload?
[18:39] <yofel> drakon: maybe you'll find something there
[18:39] <sideu6> DasKreech: ok
[18:39] <sccolbert_> funkiwan: force reload of what?
[18:40] <DasKreech> sideu6: Want the list?
[18:40] <funkiwan> sccolbert_: of all elements on page. ctrl+shift+r
[18:40] <sideu6> i have the list, currently sorting through what i need for that newer version of gparted
[18:41] <sccolbert_> funkiwan: that's not it, I have been fighting this problem for over an hour now. this is a fresh install of kubuntu 9.10, and i just restarted the machine ~10 minutes ago
[18:41] <DasKreech> ok
[18:41] <baron86> Is there any GRUB GUI ?
[18:42] <funkiwan> sccolbert_: try a different browser?
[18:42] <sccolbert_> funkiwan: this issue also appears with easy_install not able to connect to pypi.python.org
[18:42] <DasKreech> baron86: Wouldn't that be useless?
[18:42] <sideu6> DasKreech: ok i got everything now in a folder
[18:42] <sideu6> should i clean up the old gparted before trying again
[18:43] <DasKreech> sudo dpkg -i /path/to/directory/*.deb
[18:43] <sideu6> or do somthing to clean up the last attempt?
[18:43] <DasKreech> nope it should be ok
[18:43] <sideu6> ok
[18:43] <baron86> Well Das Kreech i dont now how to add a new OS i have in different hard drive whereas it was easy before!
[18:43] <funkiwan> sccolbert_: a long shot, and i'm fuzzy on the details, but i've had issues with the mtu settings not playing nice with some servers
[18:43] <sccolbert_> funkiwan: what did you change?
[18:44] <DasKreech> baron86: karmic ?
[18:44] <baron86> yeap Karmic Koala Final 9.10.. Both Ubuntu and Kubuntu
[18:44] <DasKreech> baron86: Run sudo os-prober
[18:44] <baron86> whats that?
[18:45] <sideu6> DasKreech: well it did alot more puking than last time
[18:45] <sideu6> pastebin?
[18:45] <BluesKaj> I hear rumours that ubuntu no longer sends free cds in the mail ..is this true ?
[18:45] <colin_> I can't manage to get the ati fglrx driver to activate in a fresh install of Kubuntu 9.10 64 for an HD Radeon 4670
[18:46] <baron86> why dont you download it BluesKaj?
[18:46] <Shockrates> hi
[18:46] <sideu6> just gonna try mkfs really quick
[18:46] <baron86> Hello Sokrates
[18:46] <BluesKaj> baron86, I already have it , I'm just trying to confirm a rumour :)
[18:46] <Shockrates> i have installed kubuntu with english system language. someone gave me a txt with greek characters and i cant read it
[18:46] <Shockrates> any ideas
[18:46] <Shockrates> ?
[18:47] <mike6655442233> Hi there, does anyone having sound issues with firefox?
[18:47] <baron86> oh its okie :) BluesKaj.. To be honest i didnt find such an option when downloaded
[18:47] <Dragnslcr> BluesKaj- yeah, I think they're going to restrict it a bit. I guess people requesting 10 discs when they could easily download it is costing a bit too much money
[18:47] <DasKreech> !shipit | BluesKaj
[18:47] <baron86> but to be honest if dont have net home then pc is useless
[18:47] <BluesKaj> right, baron86, Dragnslcr
[18:48] <funkiwan> sccolbert_: try something like this: tracepath python.org
[18:48] <colin_> my sound in firefox works fine but I had to adjust the volume
[18:48] <DasKreech> sideu6: Yep
[18:48] <Shockrates> can someone help me. cause its pretty annoying
[18:48] <sccolbert_> funkiwan: i cant run tracepath on my machine (school router blocks it)
[18:48] <mike6655442233> is that so? In my case it doesn't in youtube
[18:48] <baron86> But the questiion is why did they removed GRUB GUI :(
[18:49] <baron86> Sokrates are you Greek?
[18:49] <Shockrates> yes
[18:49] <baron86> So am i
[18:49] <baron86> I can read anything
[18:49] <sideu6> DasKreech: here is that mess...
[18:49] <sideu6> http://pastebin.com/m67d07c60
[18:49] <funkiwan> sccolbert_: what's the mtu on your active network interface (e.g., run ifconfig)
[18:49] <baron86> no problem with the characters..
[18:49] <Shockrates> baron86: cool
[18:50] <DasKreech> Shockrates: Really? kate can't open it?
[18:50] <baron86> your name is Sokrates :P
[18:50] <sccolbert_> funkiwan: 1500, i tried 1496, but no luck
[18:50] <Shockrates> DasKreech: kate opens it. but instead of greek i see some boxes
[18:50] <colin_> mike what worked for me was clicking the speaker icon down in the bottom right then clicking mixer and turning pcm up
[18:50] <funkiwan> sccolbert_: bump it way down to 1400 and see what happens
[18:50] <Dragnslcr> Shockrates- did you try going to System Settings -> Regional and Language and clicking "Install New Language"?
[18:50] <Shockrates> Dragnslcr: yes i did
[18:51] <Shockrates> i installed modern greek
[18:51] <kebomix> i downloaded ati driver from their website and i installed it and after reboot system crashed and it becomes non-responsive and Capslock lamp keep turning on and off and can't boot into system . , any solution ?
[18:51] <kebomix> i use kubuntu 9.10
[18:51] <Shockrates> but still
[18:51] <sccolbert_> funkiwan: no changes
[18:51] <baron86> is that text important?
[18:51] <funkiwan> sccolbert_: check out this link: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/gentoo/desktop/188932, maybe there's something in there that will help
[18:51] <mike6655442233> It's not that all other program are working fine, except flash/videos doesn't have sound
[18:51] <colin_> kebomix, I have a similar problem with no idea how to fix it
[18:51] <Dragnslcr> Shockrates- weird. Maybe need to logout and log back in? Just guessing on that
[18:52] <Shockrates> Dragnslcr: i need that too
[18:52] <Shockrates> Dragnslcr: i installed greek language and support
[18:52] <Shockrates> Dragnslcr: i can write greek txt then open it with kate, and its still greek
[18:52] <sideu6> das; how would i write the mkfs syntax to write the hfs to the drive
[18:52] <sideu6> i know dumb
[18:52] <Shockrates> but this txt written in greek shows me boxes. maybe its encoding
[18:52] <Shockrates> cause it was written in windows
[18:52] <colin_> side note, anyone get grub errors when they try to install alternate?
[18:52] <sideu6> nvrmnind i got the man page
[18:52] <baron86> maybe the other guy did write it in differeny encoding
[18:53] <Dragnslcr> Shockrates- yeah, must be something specific to that file
[18:53] <DasKreech> sideu6: LIne 69 is the killer
[18:53] <Dragnslcr> Encoding would be my first guess, too
[18:53] <Shockrates> Dragnslcr: a friend could open it though.
[18:53] <DasKreech> kebomix: Don't start the GUI
[18:53] <sideu6> ooo library issue...
[18:53] <Shockrates> he has kubuntu but chose greek at system installation
[18:53] <sccolbert_> funkiwan: is there a way to force the connection with ipv6?
[18:54] <baron86> that doesnt matter..
[18:54] <sccolbert_> funkiwan: i mean ipv4
[18:54] <kebomix1> colin_: so bad :( , any idea how to remove ATI driver using command line ?
[18:54] <baron86> Does anyone please know how to add a new OS in  a different Drive cause i need it?
[18:54] <DasKreech> sideu6: Yeah the kernel relies on libc6 so upgrading that is kinda nasty
[18:54] <Gintulis> when i start in terminal: sudo nvidia-settings  and enable twinview for dual monitor, i cant save to configuration file and get error: failed to parce existing X config file /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[18:54] <Dragnslcr> Shockrates- try changing the Encoding option in Kate's Open File dialog
[18:54] <DasKreech> sideu6: hit up the Gparted Site and grab the Live CD
[18:55] <christaker> hi....i' ve just installed from kpackage tha flash player plugin (using firefox) and i have not sound!!! Any suggestions?
[18:55] <Shockrates> and put what
[18:55] <baron86> I Used to do it easily with previous GRUB but now nothing!
[18:55] <sideu6> ok so it sounds that my only option is to run mkfs...or do that lol
[18:55] <colin_> kebomix1: no idea
[18:55] <funkiwan> sccolbert_: not sure. i'm not too sharp in this area, but it seems like it might be worth investigating. having trouble thinking of any other reasons that would cause your problem. though as i said, i'm no expert.
[18:56] <sideu6> guis are eaiser though :)
[18:56] <Dragnslcr> Shockrates- if you know someone else that can open it in Kate, ask them what encoding they're using for it. Otherwise you'd just have to try each one until you find the one that works
[18:56] <Shockrates> i fixed it
[18:56] <sideu6> DasKreech: get the stable or latest?
[18:56] <Shockrates> chose greek encoding
[18:56] <Shockrates> in openoffice
[18:56] <rockprincess> is there a special room for the kde-netbook remix?
[18:56] <DasKreech> sideu6: Stable since you seem to like stable ;)
[18:56] <Dragnslcr> That would do it
[18:57] <Shockrates> Dragnslcr: do you know how to change encoding from within kate, or make it find it automatically?
[18:57] <Idhan> I have install the adobe-flashplugin but the youtube videos do not have sound.. any idea??
[18:57] <Idhan> kubuntu 9.10
[18:57] <rockprincess> cuz i have major problems with the kde-netbook remix
[18:57] <DasKreech> Shockrates: Save as and see if it helps it outside of OO.o
[18:57] <christaker> Flash Player plugin package - no sound at videos...how to solve this? thnx!
[18:57] <sideu6> ok theys got on sourceforge 0.4.6-1
[18:57] <Shockrates> DasKreech: any other way?
[18:57] <sideu6> for stable
[18:57] <sideu6> that is the version that supports correct?
[18:57] <Idhan> christaker: the same probleme here..
[18:57] <Dragnslcr> Shockrates- you can select a different encoding if you do Save As
[18:58] <Shockrates> Dragnslcr: i found it
[18:58] <Shockrates> at tools there is the encoding option
[18:58] <yofel> rockprincess: well, there is #kubuntu-netbook
[18:58] <Shockrates> i chose automatic
[18:58] <rockprincess> ta yofel!!! :)
[18:58] <Shockrates> it should be enabled by default
[18:58] <Dragnslcr> Shockrates- yep. I'm on a remote connection to my desktop, so I'm a bit slower than normal
[18:59] <DasKreech> Shockrates: I would guess there are other ways I don't know exactly what the problem is
[18:59] <Shockrates> ok
[18:59] <DasKreech> sideu6: Yes
[18:59] <Dragnslcr> Shockrates- looks like you're doing exactly what I would do to find stuff though, so you're in good shape
[18:59] <sideu6> das:ok will grab
[19:00] <sideu6> DasKreech: thank god for comcast internet, should get it pretty quick
[19:00] <sideu6> i can bake the iso then boot it on my regular laptop to nuke the drive
[19:00] <sideu6> like i said the setup im doing now is a r&d so i can sort out all the bugs
[19:00] <sccolbert_> funkiwan: it was and ipv6 problem
[19:01] <sccolbert_> funkiwan: i disabled ipv6 in firefox and i connect immediately
[19:01] <Shockrates> Dragnslcr: i have another problem too. the greek repository which is gr.archives.ubuntu or something, doenst respond. maybe the server is down or something. i would like  to use a german server
[19:01] <Shockrates> how do i change my repositories list
[19:01] <funkiwan> sccolbert_: hooray!
[19:01] <sccolbert_> funkiwan: i suppose this is a problem with python.org server?
[19:01] <baron86> Shockrates got probem with the time?
[19:01] <baron86> i got that probelm too
[19:02] <baron86> I installed it recently and didnt give that much attention
[19:02] <Dragnslcr> Shockrates- dunno offhand, let me check my repository list
[19:02] <BluesKaj> bloody IPv6 , wish they'd adopt it or drop it, webwide/appwide and get it done period , it's PITA
[19:02] <funkiwan> sccolbert_: well, my impression is that in order foripv6 to work, all equipment between you and the server need to support it. so it's not clear that the issue rests with python.org. could be a router along the way.
[19:02] <Shockrates> baron86: it lags a lot.
[19:02] <baron86> u telling me..
[19:02] <sccolbert_> funkiwan: gotcha
[19:02] <baron86> i have so many failures..
[19:02] <Shockrates> Dragnslcr: i found an option from kpackegemanager to change source from greece to us or main server
[19:02] <sccolbert_> funkiwan: thanks for the hlep
[19:03] <funkiwan> sccolbert_: np
[19:03] <djsupportPDA> howdy
[19:03] <Dragnslcr> Shockrates- yup, was just about to tell you that
[19:03] <christaker> Flash Player plugin package - no sound at videos...how to solve this? thnx!
[19:03]  * _nix_ is a FRESH kubuntu 9.10 installation. *happy*
[19:03] <Shockrates> i chose another greek server maybe this one is better
[19:03] <Shockrates> ok cya!
[19:03] <Shockrates> thanks
[19:04] <Dragnslcr> No problem
[19:04] <baron86> will you help me Shockrates?
[19:04] <baron86> a little adcive
[19:04] <baron86> advice
[19:04] <sideu6> DasKreech: ok about to cook the disc
[19:04] <sccolbert_> funkiwan: i commented out all ipv6 entries in /etc/hosts and now my system works as it should
[19:04] <DasKreech> sideu6: That was quick
[19:05] <funkiwan> sccolbert_: sweet.
[19:05] <baron86> okie...
[19:05] <djsupportPDA> is the chap who was helping me stil here?
[19:06] <DasKreech> djsupportPDA: Driver?
[19:06] <djsupportPDA> yes
[19:06] <DasKreech> What's the problem?
[19:06] <djsupportPDA> im on mobilephone
[19:07] <benni> Hey guys! Got some problems after upgrading to Karmic...first it seems my LUKS-encrypted root-partition was strangled, but after hours of googling i got the system booting again. but my private-encryption seems to be corrupt...anybody here who can help me with that issue?
[19:07] <christaker> Idhan_: kubuntu 9.10?
[19:07] <djsupportPDA> got to a point of installation ad said you have an x-server runing
[19:07] <BluesKaj> sccolbert_, is that wise , what about your network router etc?
[19:07] <sccolbert_> BluesKaj: i'm on the school's network, so i have no access to the router
[19:08] <djsupportPDA> this I cannot install
[19:08] <DasKreech> djsupportPDA: ok we are goign to jump out of the X server and shut it down
[19:08] <DasKreech> djsupportPDA: are you ready?
[19:08] <djsupportPDA> im not at home!
[19:09] <pqwer1> just upgraded to karmic and can't get past the login screen..  all was working fine in jaunty
[19:09] <djsupportPDA> im at a hospital !
[19:09] <DasKreech> djsupportPDA: Ha ha ok how can We help then?
[19:09] <djsupportPDA> an explanation of what an x-server is?
[19:10] <sideu6> wow it cooked the disc faster than nero does on my windozer :D
[19:10] <djsupportPDA> my fiancees visiting so I'm sitting in cafe with a coffee lol
[19:10] <funkiwan> question: i'm often encountering instructions that will say "go to System -> Administration -> foo". Where is this?
[19:10] <DasKreech> djsupportPDA: UNIX is seperated into parts called a stack
[19:10] <djsupportPDA> k
[19:10] <benni> pqwer1: can you login? if no - what is the system doing? can you login in a shell (ctrl-alt-f1)?
[19:10] <DasKreech> djsupportPDA: This is so one part of the computer can change or crash and not affect the others
[19:10] <funkiwan> i'm guessing this is a gnome thing. is there a way i can access the gnome menus?
[19:10] <jrdnyquist> can anyone tell me how to suppress status message in kopete? it's contant saying I or someone goes idle or comes back, etc
[19:10] <DasKreech> djsupportPDA: Linux is the kernel part of the stack it only deals with the hardware
[19:10] <djsupportPDA> k
[19:11] <djsupportPDA> k
[19:11] <DasKreech> djsupportPDA: on top of that is the shell this is the part that you use to send commands to the kernel. It's the famous "black screen" that you type into
[19:11] <DasKreech> On top of that is a program that handles the Mouse and GUI this is the X server
[19:11] <djsupportPDA> a
[19:12] <pqwer1>  benni: yes I can log into a shell... the login screen: I enter my un/pw and submit.. screen changes to "loading different bits" and after a couple of icons are loaded the screen flickers and comes back to the login screen.
[19:12] <pqwer1> hope that made sense
[19:12] <djsupportPDA> i.e. kde
[19:12] <DasKreech> it is what makes use of the video card to draw all the pretty things on the screen
[19:12] <DasKreech> djsupportPDA: No KDE is above the X server
[19:12] <djsupportPDA> ithe first thing he told me to do was kil kdm
[19:12] <DasKreech> All the X server does is say where windows should be and how to use the video card
[19:12] <djsupportPDA> was that this server
[19:12] <benni> pqwer1: and in terminal-mode (ctrl-alt-f1), can you login there?
[19:13] <pqwer1> benni: yes
[19:13] <benni> pqwer1: can you cd to your home-dir and see if all content is available?
[19:13] <sideu6> kas: the new version even seems quicker than the old version on disc i have]
[19:13] <DasKreech> djsupportPDA: No but the Server works like a lot of the rest of linux. It runs for a short time and then dies. To stop that it calls a program that just sits and waits. THat would be KDM in this case
[19:13] <funkiwan> jrdnyquist: Settings -> Configure Konversation -> Behavior -> Chat Window -> Hide Join/Part/Nick events
[19:14] <DasKreech> When kdm stops waiting then the X server goes away
[19:14] <sideu6> and i have hfs :D
[19:14] <DasKreech> djsupportPDA: so If you logout of your desktop or specifically tell KDM to stop the X server stops running
[19:14] <djsupportPDA> ok if i killed kdm that woul stop the server?
[19:14] <pqwer1> benni: yes, it's all there. I've also run a sudo apt-get update/upgrade to update the system post-karmic-install
[19:14] <DasKreech> sideu6: Great eh?
[19:14] <sideu6> yup
[19:15] <DasKreech> Isn't FLOSS great :)
[19:15] <sideu6> question is will the newer one handle vista/win7
[19:15] <pqwer1> DasKreech: when it just works, it is :)
[19:15] <DasKreech> Came out pretty recently so I would guess it does
[19:15] <djsupportPDA> ok this is what happened he told me to sudo etc/init.d/kdm stop
[19:15] <djsupportPDA> it failed
[19:15] <DasKreech> pqwer1: It almost always just works. But that depends on what you define working as :)
[19:16] <djsupportPDA> or similiar
[19:16] <sideu6> ok well i can check man pages for that
[19:16] <DasKreech> djsupportPDA: right if you are on Koala you can type sudo service kdm stop as well
[19:16] <djsupportPDA> in on the latest
[19:17] <djsupportPDA> ok
[19:17] <djsupportPDA> that should in theory stop the server
[19:17] <pqwer1> DasKreech: my definition of working = don't need to log onto IRC :P
[19:17] <DasKreech> djsupportPDA: Yes
[19:18] <sideu6> nope its stil broke in vista/7
[19:18] <DasKreech> pqwer1: I need to login to IRC when things are going well cause I"m bored :)
[19:18] <pqwer1> hehe
[19:18] <djsupportPDA> will it output a message?
[19:18] <sideu6> im waitin for that to be fixed to move again but might for the hfs if this goes on to be final
[19:18] <DasKreech> djsupportPDA: if it works then no
[19:19] <djsupportPDA> you see itried another kill command he mentioned
[19:19] <DasKreech> djsupportPDA: I saw
[19:19] <djsupportPDA> and it returne nothing so wasnt sure if that was done
[19:19] <pqwer1> any idea how to force X to use generic display drivers?
[19:20] <DasKreech> you had like 4 people helping telling you different things that do the same thing :)
[19:20] <djsupportPDA> killall -9 km
[19:20] <djsupportPDA> kdm
[19:20] <djsupportPDA> lol
[19:20] <sideu6> DasKreech: good news is that gparted now works, but dolphin wont create anything in the new drive
[19:20] <DasKreech> djsupportPDA: a good rule in UNIX is that if it doesn't say anything then everything went well
[19:20] <sideu6> so the drive was formatted and reconnected to linux
[19:20] <DasKreech> sideu6: Of course not
[19:20] <djsupportPDA> i'll remember thanks!
[19:20] <memenode> Skulpture theme is really nice
[19:20] <sideu6> DasKreech: why not?
[19:20] <pqwer1> or you have a --quiet switch on :D
[19:20] <DasKreech> sideu6: You have to set the umask otherwise only root can touch it
[19:21] <djsupportPDA> on a completly new topic
[19:21] <sideu6> oh <_>......how do i do that?
[19:21] <pqwer1> benni: any ideas?
[19:22] <djsupportPDA> how can i get a console on a unix machine that doesnt have ke or any kind of gui?
[19:22] <djsupportPDA> kde
[19:22] <sideu6> djsupportPDA: download ubuntu server
[19:22] <sideu6> that installs just a base terminal
[19:22] <DasKreech> sideu6: how did you mount it?
[19:22] <pqwer1> djsupportPDA: temporarily or permanently?
[19:23] <DasKreech> djsupportPDA: What does it have?
[19:23] <sideu6> i connected the drive to the usb port of the pc and it pops up with the run menu
[19:23] <funkiwan> any idea how to access gnome menus from kubuntu?
[19:23] <pqwer1> funkiwan: install gnome
[19:23] <djsupportPDA> its a custom pc that not designed to have a monitor etc attached to it
[19:23] <DasKreech> sideu6: ah that means that you probably need a udev rule for the hfsplus but in the meantime you can do an fstab or a manual mount
[19:24] <djsupportPDA> just a standalone box
[19:24] <djsupportPDA> not a server either
[19:24] <pqwer1> djsupportPDA: what is its function?
[19:24] <sideu6> DasKreech: now on my production it will be internal, anything different i gotta do there
[19:24] <djsupportPDA> plays music all day long!
[19:24] <sideu6> the hfs drive i mean
[19:24] <pqwer1> well, that's a server :)
[19:25] <benni> pqwer1: still thinking about it....
[19:25] <funkiwan> pqwer1: is there a particular package for gnome?
[19:25] <pqwer1> benni: thanks :)
[19:25] <djsupportPDA> ever been to a pub restuarunt and heard background music its one well six of them :-p
[19:25] <pqwer1> djsupportPDA: usually while installing a distro, there is an option to only have a commandline option
[19:26] <pqwer1> djsupportPDA: or you can just install a server distro
[19:26] <konggaowen> 有人在吗？
[19:26] <DasKreech> sideu6: you can mount it with sudo mount /dev/device -t hfsplus /place/to/mount -o umask=0222
[19:26] <DasKreech> The umask will let anyone write to it
[19:26] <djsupportPDA> i wish to see whats going on rather than intall a new distro
[19:26] <sideu6> ok, so why would other formats let me write right away
[19:26] <sideu6> im just curious
[19:27] <DasKreech> djsupportPDA: you would need ssh on it or a monitor I guess
[19:27] <sideu6> maybe a rule somewhere
[19:27] <DasKreech> !kr
[19:27] <DasKreech> !ko
[19:27] <DasKreech> Bah that's not right
[19:27] <djsupportPDA> it usually is connected to a dialup connection
[19:27] <djsupportPDA> i belive
[19:28] <DasKreech> !cn  konggaowen
[19:28] <DasKreech> !cn | konggaowen
[19:28] <pqwer1> djsupportPDA: by default using the commandline with a normal KDE Kubuntu install will have lots of KDE packages in the background
[19:28] <konggaowen> thank 有
[19:28] <pqwer1> !ja | konggaowen
[19:28] <djsupportPDA> nor do I lnow about its root user or pass
[19:28] <konggaowen> thank you
[19:28] <pqwer1> they all look the same to me
[19:28] <pqwer1> :)
[19:29] <djsupportPDA> so i need to get shell access
[19:29] <djsupportPDA> and find out the pass
[19:29] <djsupportPDA> etc
[19:29] <mantfire> hi hi
[19:29] <djsupportPDA> to run commads
[19:30] <pqwer1> djsupportPDA: install sshd for e.g. and connect from another box
[19:30] <pqwer1> DasKreech: any idea how I can go about getting X to just use generic display drivers rather than the restricted ones?
[19:30] <djsupportPDA> i.e. my kubuntu?
[19:30] <DasKreech> djsupportPDA: You just need a login\
[19:30] <DasKreech> pqwer1: xorg.conf ?
[19:31] <djsupportPDA> hmmmm
[19:31] <pqwer1> DasKreech: I don't seem to even have one in /etc/X11
[19:31] <DasKreech> I'm very confused about how Xorg expects things to work now They way they want all configuration done inside the GUI but they remove the old configurations before they have the GUI tools
[19:31] <djsupportPDA> i took the hd out of one of them but it doesnt display anything
[19:31] <DasKreech> pqwer1: Nope it's not there
[19:32] <djsupportPDA> i know itsnot there lol
[19:32] <pqwer1> DasKreech: or is there a switch to just turn off restricted drivers?
[19:32] <djsupportPDA> i was sent looking for it earlier
[19:32] <nusch> can anybody tell me if are additional actions(privileges etc. )  needed  to make wifi(iwlagn) working after upgrade to jaunty ? It looks like knetworkmanager doesn't even try to connect although I can connect manually with wpa_supplicant..
[19:32] <pqwer1> DasKreech: I've tried uninstalling all the nvidia packages to no avail
[19:32] <djsupportPDA> anyways thanks im off
[19:32] <pqwer1> I've also tried to see if jockey-text helps.. it doesn't
[19:32] <pqwer1> cya
[19:33] <djsupportPDA> till we meet again!
[19:33] <pqwer1> auf wiedersehen
[19:33] <djsupportPDA> ditto
[19:33] <sideu6> grrrr cmon firefox...
[19:33] <CPrgmSwR2> DasKreech: will dumb @ss me never thought of hooking up the mic, as the sound is all comming out of the mic
[19:33] <DasKreech> pqwer1: Ask in #xorg
[19:34] <pqwer1> DasKreech: righto, thanks
[19:34] <sideu6> hang on gonna restart x session
[19:34] <sideu6> be right back
[19:34] <memenode> Is keyserver.ubuntu.com down?
[19:35] <CPrgmSwR2> DasKreech: mic should be headphone jack
[19:35] <yofel> memenode: it has a timeout issues in the last few weeks
[19:36] <memenode> yeah.. it times out here..
[19:36] <pqwer1> memenode: it's just tediously slow sometimes
[19:36] <memenode> well actually it says: "gpg: keyserver receive failed: keyserver error"
[19:36] <memenode> oh wait, yeah it says this too "gpg: keyserver timed out"
[19:37] <DasKreech> CPrgmSwR2: Ha ha
[19:37] <DasKreech> memenode: no just hammered
[19:37] <memenode> possibly because of that new add-apt-repository thing?
[19:37] <DasKreech> try like 7 times and it should work
[19:37] <memenode> more people quierying it to test
[19:38]  * memenode just wants to get the 64bit flashplugin repo :)
[19:38] <yofel> memenode: huh? there is one?
[19:39] <memenode> yofel, user contributed yes: https://launchpad.net/~sevenmachines/+archive/flash
[19:40] <yofel> memenode: thx
[19:40] <memenode> hm my tab completion doesn't work in konversation for some reason..
[19:41] <sideu6> ugh, how did firefox break...
[19:41] <sideu6> try reloading it
[19:42] <memenode> hmm brb
[19:43] <memenode> nope still doesn't work
[19:43] <sideu6> ok there it goes..
[19:45] <DasKreech> hmm?
[19:45] <real_ate> hi everyone... just wondering if anyone can help me with the new kubuntu 9.10... i keep getting a message from the network manager plasmoid asking me to put in my password even though i've set it to connecect automatically
[19:46] <real_ate> is there anyone out there that can help me or do i need to file a bug?
[19:46] <DasKreech> What kind of network are you connectnig to?
[19:47] <pqwer1> lots of patience, that one
[19:48] <philipp___> hi i have a problem, i can't implement kde designs
[19:48] <sideu6> DasKreech: problem with mount, it is throwin errors aout having wrong fstype, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb (where the system seems to put it), missing codepage or helper program, or other error
[19:49] <sideu6> well that is usefull
[19:49] <nusch> real_ate: are you sure it asking for password for your network ? or just for kdewallet which keeps all passwords ?
[19:49] <philipp___> !de
[19:49] <pqwer1> nusch: he's gone
[19:50] <philipp___> can someone help me?
[19:52] <DasKreech> !someone | philipp___
[19:52] <yofel> DasKreech: he already asked it
[19:53] <DasKreech> I missed it what was it?
[19:53] <philipp___> DasKreech: i have already asked it
 hi i have a problem, i can't implement kde designs
[19:53] <philipp___> DasKreech: that's why i asked if someone can help me because there was a lot of text underneath this
[19:55] <DasKreech> philipp___: I heard I didn't what are kde designs?
[19:57] <real_ate> hi everyone... just wondering if anyone can help me with the new kubuntu 9.10... i keep getting a message from the network manager plasmoid asking me to put in my password even though i've set it to connecect automatically
[19:57] <real_ate> is there anyone out there that can help me or do i need to file a bug?
[19:57] <real_ate> PS. sorry if i double posted but my wireless just died there... funny that :(
[19:57] <DasKreech> real_ate: :-)
[19:57] <philipp___> DasKreech: wait i search the english word i'm on a german pc
[19:57] <DasKreech> What kind of network are you connectnig to?
[19:57] <DasKreech> philipp___: Alright
[19:58] <DasKreech> !de
[19:58] <real_ate> DasKreech: its a wpa personal network
[19:58] <philipp___> DasKreech: i know^^ you aren't german are you?
[19:58] <DasKreech> philipp___: also if it's a KDE question you can ask in #kde
[19:58] <DasKreech> Likely to be more helpful than here
[19:59] <sideu6> DasKreech: can you give me the command to allow users to write to hfs+ again?
[19:59] <philipp___> DasKreech: i want to change my design of my workspace and i can't apply this
[20:00] <Turin> Hi, if someone heard about microphone issues in new kubuntu?
[20:00] <philipp___> DasKreech: thx for your help i go off
[20:00] <g_> hi everyone I've upgraded to 9.10 from 9.04 and i don't have access to any network manager plasmoid or anything and I cannot find it to load it, its like it doesn't existm on my system also i can't even find it on the internet to download, luckily i have xfce otherwise i wouldn't be on here
[20:00] <ralph_> I have a problem *again* , my fat32 disk  spontaneous become read only :(  I did bootup Windows again and check the partition and reboot to Kubuntu9.10 can again help me tith this
[20:01] <g_> how do you get the network manager to work in kubuntu 9.10?
[20:01] <g_> like how do you get it to aleast load, let alone get that nm plasmoid
[20:01] <geos_de> g_: do you have the plasmoid installed?
[20:02] <DasKreech> sideu6: sudo mount /dev/device /path/to/mount -t hfsplus -o umask=0022
[20:02] <sideu6> DasKreech: thanks
[20:02] <sideu6> :)
[20:02] <g_> geos_de it never installed, that stupid knetworkmanager was the only thing there but now that no longer works since updating
[20:03] <milovan> hello!
[20:03] <real_ate> i'm having troubles with knetwork manager too it seems
[20:03] <Turin> I just can not enable microphone in Skype :( Can someone help me?
[20:04] <milovan> i just upgraded from 9.04 to 9.10 but had many errors during installation, and atm cant see desktop. also starting firefox, returns me to login screen
[20:04] <real_ate> does anyone know if there is a bug open about it
[20:04] <milovan> anyone had similar problem?
[20:04] <milovan> (kubuntu)
[20:04] <real_ate> Turin: i know how to fix your problem
[20:04] <DasKreech> sideu6: More joyful outcome?
[20:04] <sideu6> workin on it
[20:04] <Turin> real_ate: Good! How?
[20:04] <sideu6> damn thing got stuck mounted now
[20:05] <real_ate> Turin: you need to "initialise" the microphone first... i do that by opening audacity and recording a few seconds of sound
[20:05] <geos_de> g_: Do you have removed the config-files for the network-manager already?
[20:05] <real_ate> Turin: then my mic works in skype ;P
[20:05] <real_ate> its crazy i know
[20:05] <Turin> OK, i will install it now
[20:05] <Turin> real_ate: Thank you!
[20:05] <real_ate> Turin: let me know if it works
[20:06] <Turin> real_ate: Shore
[20:06] <ralph_> My fat32 partition spontaneous become read only (i did a checkdisk on windows and reboot again Kubuntu 9.10), I don't know how to solve the problem. Maybe someone can check my Fstab?
[20:07] <g_> geos_de the config files? where or how or why would I do that? is that important to have done?
[20:07] <sideu6> rebooting again...
[20:07] <sideu6> ugh
[20:08] <geos_de> g_: works often on these kinds of problems in kde ;-)
[20:09] <g_> geos_de ok so what your saying is that I should delete the config files for network manager?  if so how would i do this?
[20:10] <Turin> real_ate: It works!
[20:10] <sideu6> ok cleared it now
[20:10] <sideu6> now i lost the damn command again
[20:10] <Turin> real_ate: Big, big, big thanks :)
[20:10] <real_ate> Turin: maybe file a bug so that others can find out ;)
[20:10] <real_ate> like pay it forward ;)
[20:11] <Turin> real_ate: It's only happens in Carmic, or in other KDE distros too?
[20:11] <geos_de> g_: try something like this: sudo apt-get remove --purge knetworkmanager
[20:11] <real_ate> Turin: well it was happening for me in the last 2 releases of ubuntu
[20:11] <real_ate> ubuntu/kubuntu
[20:11] <Anpu> seems none had similar experience like me :s
[20:11] <geos_de> g_: the delete everthing in your home-folder which belongs to the network-manager
[20:12] <Turin> real_ate: If so, we really have to write about this bug.
[20:12] <g_> geos_de and that will allow for the network manager to load?
[20:12] <andrez85s> !!list
[20:12] <Turin> real_ate: Launchpad?
[20:12] <real_ate> Turin: yes
[20:12] <real_ate> well... actually no
[20:12] <real_ate> Turin: i presume you downloaded the package from skype directly yes?
[20:13] <real_ate> the .deb
[20:13] <g_> geos_os I typed in the first command sudo apt-get remove --purge knetworkmanager and that package is already gone
[20:13] <sideu6> DasKreech: sorry to ask again but what were those last 2 args for that command
[20:13] <sideu6> lost window in reboot
[20:13] <geos_de> g_: it was removed before?
[20:14] <geos_de> g_: the reinstall it: sudo apt-get install knetworkmanager
[20:15] <DasKreech> sideu6: -o turns on options. The option is the umask which setups the permissions. You want umask=0022
[20:16] <sideu6> wrong syntax i dont have the whole thing
[20:16] <DasKreech> sideu6: It's in your history as well so You can just press up and get it back
[20:16] <sideu6> didnt run it in the shell before
[20:16] <DasKreech> oooooh :)
[20:17] <DasKreech> sudo mount /dev/device /path/to/mount -t hfsplus -o umask=022
[20:17]  * DasKreech hits bigbrovar with a chicken leg
[20:18] <Turin> real_ate: Yes, from site
[20:18] <g_> geos_de it says package not available when when i go to install knetworkmanager it says another package is installed
[20:18] <bigbrovar>  DasKreech> yum yum
[20:18] <sideu6> ran it but it failed
[20:18] <sideu6> and i need to run again
[20:18] <g_> geos_de thanks dude i found it by referrel of other packages
[20:18] <real_ate> Turin: then its not really anything that anyone on the ubuntu/kubuntu side can fix
[20:18] <ralph_> no one that can help me?... :(
[20:18] <real_ate> Turin: skype should be the ones to fix it
[20:19] <geos_de> g_: so it works now?
[20:19] <real_ate> Turin: but from the effort that they have shown to put into skype for linux it will take YEARS for them to fix anything
[20:19] <Turin> real_ate: So, maybe they have some bug collector too.
[20:20] <bigbrovar> Turin: i dont know what your problem with skype is (just came in) but i found the latest skype doesnt seem to play well with kubuntu had to use the version from jaunty
[20:20] <real_ate> ... i severly doubt it
[20:20] <real_ate> ^^^ i meant to say that to Turin ;)
[20:20] <Turin> bigbrovar: Now i haven't problems, thanks to real_ate
[20:20] <Turin> bigbrovar: It was a microphone issue
[20:20]  * real_ate blushes ;)
[20:21] <bigbrovar> Turin> oh ok
[20:21] <bigbrovar> Turin> aight
[20:21]  * DasKreech takes pictures of the real_ate blush
[20:22] <cantigas> For 9.10 live usb install, I want to set aufs and root fs as noatime, any ideas/hints/ptrs?
[20:24] <real_ate> DasKreech: that will be worth a pretty penny when i'm famous ;)
[20:26] <rohan> are kubuntu ISOs hybrid iso which can be just dumped on a pen drive to make liveusb?
[20:26] <DasKreech> !usb
[20:27] <colin_> odd, manual ati driver install works perfectly... why doesn't the easy way work?
[20:27] <memenode> :(
[20:28] <memenode> tab completion doesn't work on skulpture..
[20:28] <memenode> the best theme
[20:29] <Anpu> anyone had fail upgrading from 9.04 to 9.10?
[20:29] <benni> Anpu: yes ;-)
[20:29] <Anpu> benni: did you have any consequences and how you solved them?
[20:30] <colin_> yes, I have one computer I tested the update on and now I get some no screens found error
[20:30] <benni> Anpu: Still trying to rescue the entries of my home-dir...something killed my encrypted root-fs
[20:30] <Anpu> I dont see desktop at all, and when I start some programs, it returns me to login screen
[20:30] <benni> Anpu: seems that i solved that problem, now i cannot login in gui-mode
[20:30] <Anpu> also, some program reports crash constantly
[20:31] <Anpu> hm
[20:31] <Alt666> hi,who install qutim on new kubuntu 9.10...please re:!
[20:31] <Anpu> every upgrade there is fail
[20:31] <Anpu> :\
[20:31] <Larik> Anpu: I had problems with a manual installed NVIDIA driver (switchiung from 9.04 to 9.10)
[20:32] <Alt666> Y,libqt4 old((
[20:32] <alid> I have added a network printer successfully in kubuntu 9.10 and it works perfectly. I can't change the printer's settings from the System Settings, though. Can anybody help me please?
[20:33] <ralph_> # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
[20:33] <ralph_> #
[20:33] <ralph_> # Use 'blkid -o value -s UUID' to print the universally unique identifier
[20:33] <ralph_> # for a device; this may be used with UUID= as a more robust way to name
[20:33] <ralph_> # devices that works even if disks are added and removed. See fstab(5).
[20:33] <FloodBotK2> ralph_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:33] <ralph_> #
[20:35] <ralph_> can some one see why my sda5 is read only (sorry for the flood) did't know...
[20:36] <teliti> Hello. I do have a problem with kile, or texlive. I installed texlive-full and it seems to be that I cannot use "ä" "ö" "ü" ... do you know why?
[20:39] <nick_h> hey guys. while booted into a KUbuntu Live CD, i modified xorg.conf and restarted kdm. however, kdm didn't come back up. does something special need to be done?
[20:41] <Larik> !help
[20:41] <Turin> real_ate: Good bye!
[20:43] <Alt666> what sofrware for resize HDD into kubuntu,say please!???
[20:46] <djSupport-linux_> nikitis: :-)
[20:46] <ralph_> gparted maybe
[20:46] <Alt666> GParted is the Gnome Partition Editor application...........and for KDE ? ? ?
[20:47] <DasKreech> Alt666: Gprated or partition-manager
[20:47] <ralph_> it will work,,, for KDE i don't know... maybe anyone els ;)
[20:47] <etric> @ Alt666 http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/KDE+Partition+Manager?content=89595
[20:47] <Alt666> snx
[20:49] <rohan> gparted will work on kde without any problem
[20:53] <ralph_> I solve the problem with read write... i did copy a folder to the root (where no folders where visable, than refresh and itś al there again. Remove the new folder and the whole partition wil read and write again) trange...
[20:57] <djSupport-linux> Quick question... Ive downloaded a game where does the system usually put them?
[20:58] <djSupport-linux> latest kubuntu
[20:58] <DasKreech> djSupport-linux: which game?
[20:58] <djSupport-linux> nexuiz
[20:58] <Shockrates> hi
[20:58] <djSupport-linux> it works now :-)
[20:59] <djSupport-linux> just gotta copy my settigs ovver
[20:59] <djSupport-linux> from the vista side
[20:59] <Shockrates> whats the difference of a binary and a package?
[21:00] <DasKreech> Shockrates: they can be the same
[21:00] <DasKreech> A binary is what it says A file written completely in binary
[21:00] <anpu> quick quuestion: how to fix system stability problem? i have no cd btw
[21:01] <DasKreech> A package is a set of settings and files put together in one file. It's possible that it is a binary file as well
[21:01] <djSupport-linux> DasKreech: is there a default area
[21:01] <djSupport-linux> ?
[21:01] <DasKreech> anpu: dependson what is causing it
[21:01] <Shockrates> look i needed a program but couldnt find the package in the repos so i downloaded a binary of it from the site. if i want to launch it now i have to change directory using the console, and i cant directly type its name. what can i do?
[21:01] <DasKreech> djSupport-linux: type whereis nexuiz
[21:01] <anpu> DasKreech: it caused todays upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10
[21:01] <djSupport-linux> cheers
[21:02] <pqwer1> so, again I ask... does anybody know how I can force kubuntu to use generic display drivers rather than openchrome drivers that currently isn't working for me.
[21:02] <pqwer1> ?
[21:02] <DasKreech> anpu: Right I figured but I don't know what's causing it. Does it crash when you do something in partticular? what hardware are you using?
[21:02] <pqwer1> DasKreech: no help in #xorg unfortunately
[21:02] <DasKreech> openchrome ow
[21:02] <pqwer1> :(
[21:02] <anpu> well, if i start firefox, quassel, or any program I used before, it brings login screen
[21:03] <anpu> and there is one crash report whenever i login
[21:03] <DasKreech> pqwer1: You can ask in #ubuntu as well it's a system issue it's not KDE or GNOME specific
[21:03] <Unksi> hi anpu :D
[21:03] <pqwer1> but really, why is it such a clustfsck to get the equivalent of safe mode going? :(
[21:03] <anpu> hey Unksi :)
[21:03] <DasKreech> anpu: look in ~/.xsession-errors
[21:03] <Unksi> :p
[21:03] <anpu> kblueplugd reports error
[21:03] <anpu> and thats all
[21:03] <DasKreech> pqwer1: There is a safe mode on the grub screen
[21:03] <anpu> my hardware is amd sempron 2600
[21:03] <anpu> 2gb ram
[21:03] <pqwer1> DasKreech: the recovery mode?
[21:04] <DasKreech> in .xsession-errors ?
[21:04] <anpu> sata hd
[21:04] <DasKreech> Right recovery mode that's the name of it :)
[21:04] <rexx> installed kdevelop today, package crashes. whe creating new proj from template.  same version worked on my LFS partition. where to report?
[21:04] <Shockrates> what can i do?
[21:04] <Shockrates> any ideas?
[21:05] <pqwer1> DasKreech: that seems more like a safe mode for safe mode :S
[21:05] <DasKreech> Shockrates: which program?
[21:05] <Shockrates> sagemath
[21:05] <DasKreech> pqwer1: pretty safe eh!
[21:05] <pqwer1> :)
[21:05] <pqwer1> doesn't do what I want though.. use safe drivers and get the system up
[21:05] <DasKreech> !info sagemath
[21:05] <pqwer1> !xorg
[21:06] <Shockrates> DasKreech: this isnt the latest
[21:06] <Shockrates> the last is 4.-
[21:06] <DasKreech> Shockrates: Ok so what kind of file is it?
[21:06] <Shockrates> binary
[21:07] <Shockrates> but i want the last package
[21:07]  * pqwer1 huggles Windows 7 tightly
[21:07] <anpu> sorry, maximizing window, lead me to login screen :\
[21:08] <anpu> DasKreech: there are many things in that file, but i cannot copy to pastebin
[21:08] <anpu> due to my ff sending me to os login screen
[21:08] <DasKreech> Shockrates: You can bug the maintainer from https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sagemath
[21:09] <teliti> Hi. Does anyone knows why "ä" "ö" "ü" Umlaut arent in latin1 ??? I cannot compile Umlaut with texlive!!!
[21:09] <Shockrates> DasKreech: but i want 4.2
[21:09] <DasKreech> Shockrates: I know you said you downloaded it what kind of file is it?
[21:09] <Shockrates> binary
[21:09] <DasKreech> is it just one big file with an extension ?
[21:09] <Shockrates> i need the package though
[21:09] <DasKreech> why do you say that?
[21:10] <Shockrates> yes its tar
[21:10] <Shockrates> i unzipped it
[21:10] <Shockrates> and i can run it
[21:10] <Shockrates> if i cd and then ./sage
[21:11] <anpu> DasKreech: there are 238 lines in .xsessions-errors
[21:12] <teliti> nevermind ... instead of latin1 one should use utf8!
[21:13] <bjb1959> I can't get raw1394 to load at boot on kubuntu 9.10 any ideas?
[21:15] <jrdnyquist> can anyone tell me how to suppress idle status message in kopete? it's contant saying I or someone goes idle or comes back, etc
[21:15] <memenode> still buggy :S
[21:15] <DasKreech> Shockrates: ok so which package do you need?
[21:15] <Shockrates> sagemath 4.2
[21:15] <DasKreech> anpu: Any errors?
[21:15] <Shockrates> ubuntu has 3....
[21:16] <Shockrates> why?
[21:16] <Dario_Andres> Hi. Are you distributing the Network Manager plasma widget by default on Kubuntu 9.10 ?
[21:16] <memenode> I tried to install a bunch of splash screens to try and it installed only 2 (I tried like a dozen).. and now when I closed the settings manager it wont even open.. meh
[21:16] <DasKreech> Shockrates: Mail the maintainer on the page I pointed you to before
[21:16] <Shockrates> what you mean
[21:16] <Shockrates> maintainer
[21:16] <anpu> DasKreech: yeah, you can choose... from "invalid" to "X Error" "dbus" and stuff
[21:16] <DasKreech> Shockrates: You can put sage in your path and it will be a normal command
[21:17] <DasKreech> anpu: Pastebin it
[21:17] <anpu> i cannot, if i start firefox, it will bring me to os login screen
[21:17] <DasKreech> Shockrates: Each package in Ubuntu has someone who is assigned to maintain it and update it when a new version of the program comes out.
[21:17] <anpu> i ll ask one friend to pastebin for me
[21:18] <DasKreech> Shockrates: They can make a choice to not update to a newer version because of stabilty problems or to package a in development version if it's stable and has enough significant changes etc
[21:18] <DasKreech> Shockrates: E-mail the sagemath maintainer and request a newer version
[21:18] <DasKreech> anpu: install pastebinit
[21:19] <DasKreech> sudo apt-get install pastebinit && pastebint ~/.xsession-errors
[21:19] <DasKreech> djSupport-linux: Hi again
[21:19] <djSupport-linux> hi
[21:20] <djSupport-linux> DasKreech: when i first ran amarol it suggested getting some audio packages for playing stuff I cannot find that anymore do you know what im looking for?
[21:20] <anpu> DasKreech: done, how to initilaze it?
[21:20] <anpu> (start it)
[21:20] <djSupport-linux> amarok^
[21:21] <DasKreech> anpu: just type pastebinit ~/.xsession-errors
[21:21] <Shockrates> DasKreech: how do i put the file at my path
[21:21] <anpu> hm awesome tool ty :)
[21:21] <anpu> DasKreech: http://pastebin.com/f4a9eb3ee
[21:21] <DasKreech> Shockrates: type chmod +x sage && sudo cp sage /usr/bin
[21:22] <darkmist> аллоха!!!
[21:22] <Shockrates> but what i have is a folder with the program in my desktop
[21:22] <DasKreech> !ru
[21:22] <Larik> !cz
[21:22] <DasKreech> Shockrates: Right make it executable and copy that file to /usr/bin
[21:23] <darkmist> koi 8 ru???
[21:23] <DasKreech> darkmist: #ubuntu-ru
[21:24] <Shockrates> DasKreech: and where will the rest of the program be? if i only copy the shell
[21:25] <DasKreech> anpu: ugh. type sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[21:25] <Shockrates> DasKreech: btw the maintainer is Ubuntu Development Team
[21:25] <Shockrates> how do i contact them? or contact the owner?
[21:25] <DasKreech> #ubuntu-devel
[21:26] <anpu> DasKreech:  upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded
[21:28] <DasKreech> anpu: Why does it keep saying that things that shuld be installed aren't there then
[21:29] <anpu> no idea at all
[21:29] <anpu> its not that i m lucky with os upgrade..
[21:29] <Shockrates> DasKreech: so i talk to them at the irc channel?
[21:29] <DasKreech> heehee ;-)
[21:29] <DasKreech> Shockrates: You can
[21:29] <Shockrates> DasKreech: cause the developer is the team, and the dont respond
[21:29] <apparle> Hi guys.... after the splash screen the computer just shows a blank screen with a cursor blinking for 15 seconds.....
[21:30] <anpu> it says that kubuntu-desktop is already the newest version etc
[21:30] <DasKreech> anpu: Right and dist-upgrade is ok
[21:30] <anpu> seems like upgrade "passed" with some errors
[21:32] <anpu> though i remember after installation, it mentioned some "dpkg" command, but added it ll be done automatically, so I didnt write down
[21:33] <InforMed> Hi! I need some help... I install karmic and now my sound is crackling every 5 seconds. Even if no app is playing! :(
[21:35] <DaSkreecH> anpu: Bah It's catching
[21:35] <DaSkreecH> I just had a reboot forced
[21:35] <anpu> i wrote you this:
[21:35] <anpu> though i remember after installation, it mentioned some "dpkg" command, but added it ll be done automatically, so I didnt write down
[21:35] <anpu> no problem mate
[21:36] <anpu> thanks anyway for spending your time to help this noob :-)
[21:36] <DaSkreecH> anpu: really? try sudo dpkg --configure -a
[21:37] <kebomix> when i installed Ati card from their website ,and reboot , it doesn't boot up and caused kernel panic , any solution ?
[21:37] <kebomix> i use kubuntu 9.10
[21:38] <anpu> DaSkreecH: that command passed, no messages or anything. should i restart?
[21:38] <DaSkreecH> anpu: I guess
[21:38] <apparle> WHat does this meen "[   42.816029] ata5: lost interrupt (Status 0x58)" in kernel log, it takes 15 seconds while booting, and PC just stops till then
[21:39] <anpu> ok, /me crosses fingers
[21:40] <Roey> Hello
[21:40] <Roey> When i tried to install Kubuntu, it didn't recognize my /dev/md* drives...
[21:41] <jane__> Hello
[21:41] <Roey> if I'm installing to a softraid1 partition, do I need the alternate disc?
[21:41] <Roey> hey!
[21:42] <DaSkreecH> Roey: yep
[21:42] <Roey> ah.
[21:42] <Roey> DaSkreecH: hey!!!!!
[21:42] <Roey> you don't know what kinda hell I've been going through before you told me this.
[21:42] <ubuntu> anyone has any idea how this is possible? I've a dual boot winXP - kubuntu 9.04 I want to remove the 9.04 and replace it with 9.10 so, i use the liveCD to test and then install 9.10 When i go into the installer, i got to the step with the partitioning...and i don't see anything...i should see 2 HDD's, 1 of 160GB, whole as NTFS, 1 of 250 GB (which has 20GB partition of NTFS (windows), +-193GB NTFS data, and 3 linux partitions with the old
[21:42] <ubuntu>  9.04 kubuntu on it (/, /boot and swap)
[21:42] <anpu> DaSkreecH: no luck. btw if it means anything, at loading os, there shuold be 5 icons, it shows only 3 now: hdd, settings icon and kmenu one
[21:43] <anpu> i mean, it shows like that after upgrade, not after this restart
[21:43] <Roey> DaSkreecH: I had done this backwards; I tried installing the Desktop CD by booting to the livecd, downloading mdadm, assembling my raid array, and thn starting the installation process.  When I rebooted, the system couldn't find /dev/md*.  Which is bad, because this holds /boot nad /.
[21:43] <DaSkreecH> anpu: o_O
[21:44] <DaSkreecH> anpu: Can You jump into #kubuntu-devel and inform them?
[21:44] <anpu> sure np, thanks!
[21:44] <DaSkreecH> Roey: Yeah alternate would be the way to go
[21:44] <Roey> alright then.
[21:44] <Roey> brb
[21:45] <Roey> DaSkreecH: how do I boot without the CD?  'nocd'?
[21:45] <ubuntu> *remark i forgot...the 2 hdd's are connected to the sata ports of a mainboard with only 2 sata ports, and the controller on the thing demands i set the hdd's in some raid array altough i don't use raid on any of the disks...i just put each disk in it's own array so i don't have raid...the problem i described above didn't occur in any older version i used...
[21:46] <DaSkreecH> Roey: Eh?
[21:47] <DaSkreecH> ubuntu: If you are doing raid then you need the alternate CD
[21:47] <Roey> I want to burn a CD on the fly... I want to take the liveCD out.  Does Kubuntu have a 'nocd' option?
[21:47] <Roey> ubuntu: dude I've spent four days with that problem.  Just use the alt cd
[21:47] <ubuntu_> what's going on with kubuntu 9.10 and flash player anyway????
[21:47] <mfraz74> could you put the live cd on a usb stick instead?
[21:47] <Roey> are you asking me?
[21:47] <Roey> (or DaSkreech)
[21:48] <mfraz74> you roey
[21:48] <Roey> ah.
[21:48] <Roey> if I had one with m
[21:48] <Roey> me
[21:48] <Roey> sure.
[21:48] <Roey> isn't ther ea 'nocd' boot option?
[21:48] <ubuntu> DaSkreecH: the thing is...i don't use raid and i don't want it...all previous version i used worked perfect with the normal cd and not the alternate so my guess it's something with this installer...and i doubt if it has anything to do with the non-raid raid arrays....
[21:49] <ubuntu_> i can't get flash player working on my kubuntu 9.10. Is there anyone with the same problem here?
[21:50] <DaSkreecH> ubuntu: is it set to a raid or JBOD ?
[21:50] <mfraz74> ubuntu_ how have you tried installing?
[21:51] <ubuntu> DaSkreecH: i don't have that option, mainboard was 1 of the first with sata ports (6 years old) the only option i had was to make 2 raid arrays of 1 disk, each raid 0 resulting in 2 normal hdd's with no raid functionality...it works fine with windows and older kubuntu's but not this time it seems
[21:53] <ubuntu_> mfraz74: If you install flash player from Adobe's site and after update something, flash stops working....and crash all the package manager!
[21:54] <DaSkreecH> ubuntu: actually you are right if it's hardware raid it should just turn up
[21:54] <mfraz74> i just installed ubuntu restricted extras without going to adobe's site
[21:55] <ubuntu_> mfraz74: have you kubuntu or ubuntu?
[21:55] <fede> mfraz74: medibuntu repo?
[21:55] <Sepling> I'm trying to 'apt-build install xorg' and I get "dpkg-buildpackage: binary only upload (no source included)" - is this an odd temporary error, or isn't the source supposed to be avaliable?
[21:56] <mfraz74> ubuntu#
[21:56] <mfraz74> i've got medibuntu enabled too
[21:56] <Thundercross> Whenever I load Kubuntu 9.10, it takes me to a textmode login screen, and I can't load X at all.
[21:56] <DaSkreecH> Thundercross: What have you tried ?
[21:56] <DaSkreecH> There aer three ways of loading X
[21:56] <ubuntu> DaSkreecH: as far as i know is the controller lazy and let do the cpu all the work of the raid if any...but, if i want raid, i just have to make the arrays and tell the mainboard if i want raid 0 or raid 1 (and maybe i even have the option raid 10 but i don't know exactly) so i guess you could call it hardware raid
[21:57] <Thundercross> I'm not really sure what to try. I don't think it's supposed to take me to textmode in the first place
[21:57] <DaSkreecH> Thundercross: It's not. Can You login there?
[21:57] <Thundercross> Yes. What are these three ways?
[21:58] <ubuntu_> mfraz74: Is your flash player working under kubuntu 9.10 ?
[21:59] <mfraz74> yes
[22:01] <iWolf> Where could i get the ubotu code?
[22:01] <ubuntu_> mfraz74: after installed kubuntu, which package do you downloaded?
[22:01] <buckethead> Whats the encryption type for kubuntu encrypted home directories?
[22:01] <mfraz74> kubuntu-restricted-extras
[22:01] <Thundercross> The thing is, you say it's not supposed to take me into text mode. So the moment it does do that, something has obviously gone wrong.
[22:01] <ubuntu_> mfraz74: have you got firefox?
[22:01] <iWolf> !me
[22:02] <mfraz74> ubuntu_: yes, i'm using firefox
[22:03] <ubuntu_> mfraz74: i'm thinking doing another format and install kubuntu again, that's why ask you :)
[22:06] <fede> Thundercross: maybe something went wrong with nvidia binaries?
[22:06] <Squarc> Hey, my sound is not working after I upgraded from 9.04 to 9.10
[22:07] <Squarc> I didn't had to do any hack or change when I installed kubuntu (8.10).. and after the upgrade to 9.04 it kept working... but now its just.. dead...
[22:07] <Thundercross> There's a release note saying that Xorg will crash if there's a Wacom tablet, and I do have a tablet
[22:07] <Squarc> I only have some default channels in kmix... not the long list of chan's for the in and outputs I used to have
[22:07] <Squarc> any thoughts?
[22:08] <jaem_n810> I was trying the beta on a friend's laptop, and was having issues with the screen brightness (nVidia card).  Does anyone know if that's been fixed in the release?
[22:08] <fede> Squarc: maybe karmic didn't set some drivers needed options
[22:08] <fede> Thundercross: omg i'm upgraing on a hp tx2130el ... so i'm doomed? :o
[22:09] <Squarc> fede: looks like it I think, I cant open alsamixer anymore (always could before (in terminal)): alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory
[22:09] <Squarc> \
[22:09] <Thundercross> Well, the release note specifically said Wacom tablet
[22:09] <Thundercross> So maybe another brand will be better
[22:10] <scyth> any ideas why I'm having increased sound playback latency (and generaly, sound operations) after upgrade to 9.10
[22:10] <fede> Squarc: hmm it's worse than i espected.... no clue for an error like this :(
[22:10] <scyth> I removed pulseuadio*
[22:11] <jaem_n810> Thundercross: I'll ping a friend and ask her to check, if she's around
[22:12] <etric> Thundercross: you have starting problems with your wacom tablet? try to delete all wacomdetails from your xorg.conf and let HAl handle it
[22:12] <etric> works for my Wacom Bamboo
[22:15] <Squarc> fede: I think I found someting:
[22:15] <Squarc> when restarting alsa I get the default messages, plus 10 of these masages after eachother: WARNING: Deprecated config file /etc/modprobe.conf, all config files belong into /etc/modprobe.d/.
[22:16] <Squarc> and after the last of those messages, the program is terminated.. as in: it's supposed to be "reloaded".. which I don't believe
[22:16] <tmartins> Hello, I just upgraded to KDE 4.3, and somehow I can't get rid of the "notifications" icon on the system tray. Any Ideas?
[22:18] <Sepling> tmartins: Click the tray, choose properties, then uncheck both "show notifications" and "File transfers and other jobs".
[22:18] <Sepling> That's the only way I got it to disappear.
[22:19] <fede> Squarc: i assume you didn't let overwrite alsa-base by configurator
[22:19] <Squarc> ?
[22:19] <fede> which is bad.... i prefer to backup before overwrite, then doing it
[22:20] <Squarc> what do you mean ?
[22:20] <fede> you upgraded from jaunty right?
[22:20] <Squarc> yes
[22:20] <fede> when packages has been updated you probably were asked to overwrite older config files
[22:21] <Squarc> yes, 2
[22:21] <Squarc> and I checked out the diffs of those
[22:21] <Squarc> and ehm, alsa-base or anything that had to do with sound wasn't in it
[22:21] <fede> oh sorry then ^^ I just got asked for alsa-base... 120 secs ago :P
[22:22] <tmartins> Sepling: uhn, that's nice, but... well, it disable ALL notifications... I just wanted the icon to hide when nothing is reported, like on kde 4.3
[22:22] <Squarc> fede: np
[22:23] <Squarc> fede: you know how to see my boot log ?
[22:23] <Sepling> tmartins: I know, me too.
[22:23] <memenode> meh, you know what? We'll have to wait till KDE 4.9 for it to be freaking stable
[22:23] <memenode> meh
[22:23] <Squarc> ( all the stuff I see comming trough when I'm booting (I removed the splash screen in the boot arguments in the grub menu file)
[22:23] <Sepling> Fortunately I mostly find notifications annoying, so turning them off entirely wasn't that much of a sacrifice.
[22:24] <fede> hmm no...i'm used to read "dmesg|less"
[22:25] <fede> btw, your error sounds like if modprobe.conf tries to load files outside /etc/modprobe.d which is considered now bad. I can only suggest if this makes sense by reading modprobe.conf
[22:26] <Squarc> ok
[22:26] <Squarc> I'll check it out :)
[22:26] <ubuntu> hi
[22:26] <Squarc> lol @ nick
[22:27] <Squarc> fede: cat /etc/modprobe.conf gives: options parport_pc io=0x378 irq=7 dma=3
[22:27] <inma> Hello
[22:27] <fede> i'm close to a end-upgrade restart. There are so many problems that i'm scared. I'm going to pray even if i'm not at all used to :/
[22:27] <Squarc> well, I copied /etc/modprobe.conf to /etc/modprobe.d/modprobe.conf
[22:28] <Squarc> fede: good luck ! :)
[22:28] <Squarc> I guess you'll let us know how it went :)
[22:28] <Squarc> I must say,,, I like 9.10 verry much
[22:28] <inma> I was updating from 9.04 to 9.10, and there was a power cut in my house in the middle of the proccess...
[22:28] <Squarc> except for ther sound :p
[22:28] <Squarc> inma: awh :s sucks
[22:28] <Squarc> inma: something broken ?
[22:28] <inma> How can I fix it?
[22:28] <inma> kubuntu does't load
[22:29] <inma> I get the root console
[22:29] <Squarc> sounds bad :s
[22:30] <inma> I tried: dpkg --configure -a, but I get: "Unable to access dpkg status area: Read-only file system"
[22:30] <Squarc> are you a bit fammiliar with linux ?
[22:30] <Squarc> hmm
[22:30] <Squarc> yes, that is verry likely just a busybox you're dropped in
[22:30] <inma> it was ALMOST installed
[22:30] <Squarc> ehm
[22:30] <inma> it was just before the "cleaning" phase
[22:31] <Squarc> you might concider backing up you're home directory, then reinstalling karmic/9.10 from startup
[22:31] <Squarc> and then replace you're home dir
[22:31] <inma> and no, I am not familiar with linux....
[22:31] <Squarc> that would mean you have to reinstall all programs
[22:31] <Squarc> but, all programs that have saved their settings in you're home dir (which are a lot), will be able to open their configs again
[22:32] <inma> omg no :(
[22:32] <inma> don't even remember the name of all the programs I've installed...
[22:32] <Squarc> hmm :s
[22:32] <slow-motion> hi
[22:32] <Squarc> hi slow-motion
[22:33] <slow-motion> hi Squarc
[22:33] <Guest75378> hello , where to fine /var in kubuntu ?
[22:33] <inma> so there's no way to fix it?
[22:33] <Squarc> inma: I don't think from that busybox
[22:33] <Squarc> you might request help on the forums
[22:33] <inma> all new packages had been dowloaded
[22:33] <inma> what's a busybox?
[22:33] <Squarc> they might be able to help you doing some magic with a live CD
[22:34] <Squarc> ehm,.. I mean that root shell you're dropped in to
[22:34] <Squarc> when booting
[22:34] <inma> oh, I'll try the forums them
[22:34] <inma> thanks
[22:34] <Byron> Hello everyone
[22:35] <Byron> Quick question
[22:35] <Byron> How do I get rid of KDE and stick to just Plasma-Netbook?
[22:35] <Guest75378> sorry for repeat , but where can i find /var directory !
[22:36] <Byron> Guest75378: You answered your own question
[22:36] <Squarc> Guest: In the root !
[22:36] <Squarc> in /
[22:36] <Squarc> the / = the start (root) of all directory's
[22:36] <Squarc> like.... ehm... C:/ on windows
[22:37] <Squarc> Guest: do: alt+F2, then type: dolphin /var
[22:37] <Squarc> it'll start dolphin in the dir you're seeking :)
[22:40] <xxx001> can some suggest a video card for 9.10
[22:40] <mauri> with partiton menager my usb external disk is not recognized correctly (1Tb)
[22:40] <xxx001> I bought a new machine and tried installing 9.10 and 9.04 the install fails
[22:41] <Squarc> xxx001: I use the nVidia 8800GTX, which is verry well supported with the nvida driver (version: 180.44)
[22:42] <xxx001> the intel video tells me the configuration failed, forgot to mention is there a good cheap one
[22:42] <Squarc> xxx001: are you able to boot into the live environment on the install cd?
[22:43] <xxx001> no, it tells me the crt configuration failed
[22:45] <xxx001> this is the error I get
[22:45] <xxx001> ubuntu failed restore crtc configuration
[22:46] <mauri> with partiton menager my usb external disk is not recognized correctly (1Tb)
[22:48] <apparle> I am getting a blinking cursor for 30 seconds before login screen after splash screen.... why
[22:50] <morydd> After running the upgrade t o 9.10, my system won't start up. I get "/: waiting for /dev/disk/by-uuid/{uuid}" If I hit "esc" to get to the recovery shell and run "dpkg --configure -a" I get "unable to access dpkg file area: read-only file system"
[22:50] <Thundercross> etric, I looked at my xorg.conf. The one in etc/X11, right? There's no reference to Wacom there at all
[22:56] <Athen> #channels
[22:57] <ep> My error, but the 9.10 install repartitioned /home and left half of it free space.  What's an easy method to regrow (resize) this partition back to the way it orginally was?
[22:59] <ep> Installing 9.10 l from disk. I've got three partitions swap / and /home  I really just wanted to wipe out / for the OS and keep all the data already on /home.  How do I do this?
[22:59] <fernao> smeone can help meå
[22:59] <fernao> smeone can help meå
[22:59] <fernao> smeone can help meå
[22:59] <fernao> ?
[23:01] <morydd> After running the upgrade t o 9.10, my system won't start up. I get "/: waiting for /dev/disk/by-uuid/{uuid}" If I hit "esc" to get to the recovery shell and run "dpkg --configure -a" I get "unable to access dpkg file area: read-only file system"
[23:01] <jeroen_> hey everyone. can somebody help me with my setup for 2 monitors. i cant seem to access fglrxconfig..
[23:04] <apparle> Plz help http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3107441.msg202755#msg202755
[23:07] <ep> I simply need to resize a ext3 /home partition.  Can anyone one kindly recomend a gui front end for doing this, preferably qt or kde based?
[23:08] <kubuntuser> ep: gpart live cd
[23:08] <Byron> How do I get rid of KDE and stick to just Plasma-Netbook?
[23:08] <kubuntuser> ep: if it is not a mounted partition, you can use gpart without the livecd
[23:09] <ep> kubuntuser: will the 9.10 install CD do it.  It's what cut it in half in the first place.
[23:09] <kubuntuser> ep: I do not know. I don't use the install cd :-(
[23:09] <ep> half of it is free space now.  So it should be and easy fix
[23:10] <ep> you use gpart right?
[23:10] <Squarc> anyone else having sound problems after upgrading to 9.10 ?
[23:10] <Squarc> this is the solution: http://monespaceperso.org/blog-en/2009/08/31/upgrade-alsa-1-0-21-on-ubuntu-jaunty-9-04/
[23:10] <kubuntuser> ep: I think it can do it. I have used gpart
[23:11] <Thundercross> Okay. The suggestion I'm getting in order to get KDE to work is to purge my xorg.conf of all references to Wacom, but the one in /etc/X11 has no such reference to Wacom. Where's the xorg.conf I need to change?
[23:12] <Carbamide> Byron: I've been wondering the exact opposite. How do I get rid of plasma-netbook and just stick to plasma-desktop. I'm running on an eee, but I'm almost always   connected to an external monitor, so the plasma -desktop works better.
[23:12] <kubuntuser> Thundercross: that is it
[23:14] <Byron> Carbamide: Let me know what you find out.
[23:14] <Carbamide> Will do.
[23:20] <apparle> Anyone used the microblogging widget with twitter
[23:22] <christaker> i have kubuntu 9.10 and i've installed kubuntu-restricted-extras but i have no sound with flash player!
[23:22] <christaker> anyone to help me?
[23:23] <Byron> Carbamide: How did you try to remove plasma-desktop?
[23:29] <rockprincess> anyone else experiencing problems with the netbook remix livecd?
[23:30] <Thundercross> kubuntuser, I guess I'll try again. Since the problem apparently fixed itself.
[23:30] <christaker> plz anyone about the flash player problem? it getting me crazy!
[23:31] <Carbamide> Byron: I can't even figure out where the command gets executed. I'm gonna' google when I have time to mess with it.
[23:33] <Logan_Lockwood> Hi, good people!
[23:33] <Logan_Lockwood> Has anyone noticed that Kubuntu new installer is SLOW?
[23:33] <Logan_Lockwood> I mean, not to copy on the disk, but asking to the user about configurarion.
[23:34] <Logan_Lockwood> At least, in alpha 6, it was smooth, but now it seems laggy
[23:36] <cosmic303> hiya all..im havin really big problems after updating from 9.04 to 9.10 ..i dont even get my BIOS screen up. all my screen says is "out of range"
[23:36] <cosmic303> i cant even boot from a rescue cd
[23:36] <cosmic303> anyone care to help?
[23:37] <nomopofomo> can't figure out how to decrypt pgp files in kubuntu karmic
[23:37] <nomopofomo> can't figure out how to import .asc key files either
[23:38] <cosmic303> anyone?
[23:39] <nomopofomo> what's up cosmic?
[23:39] <cosmic303> [00:36] <cosmic303> hiya all..im havin really big problems after updating from 9.04 to 9.10 ..i dont even get my BIOS screen up. all my screen says is "out of range"
[23:39] <nomopofomo> i take it you're on another computer now?
[23:39] <cosmic303> i never had this before..it should at least show the POST?
[23:39] <cosmic303> yes i am
[23:40] <nomopofomo> you might want to check your video cables... if those are fine then i'd recommend checking your videocard and making sure it's properly seated in its slot
[23:40] <apparle> cosmic303: laptop or desktop
[23:40] <cosmic303> ok lemme check that
[23:40] <cosmic303> [apparle]: its a desktop
[23:41] <cosmic303> asus mainboard with geforce gfx
[23:41] <christaker> i've installed flash player pluin with kubuntu restricted extras and i have no sound!
[23:41] <christaker> anyone?
[23:42] <nomopofomo> have you restarted the browser since you installed the plugin?
[23:42] <nomopofomo> do you have soundnormally?
[23:42] <cosmic303> videocard is fine, so are the cables...im really clueless :(
[23:42] <christaker> nomopofomo: yes, also i restarted my system! i have sound
[23:42] <nomopofomo> did you have sound before you installed the plugin?
[23:43] <nomopofomo> oh wait never mind
[23:43] <nomopofomo> i'm reading too fast
[23:43] <apparle> cosmic303: if it had been a problem with linux, you would at least have seen the POST
[23:43] <christaker> nomopofomo: yes i did
[23:43] <cosmic303> [apparle]: indeed...lemme try and replace the videocard...
[23:43] <cosmic303> i have an old geforce2 somewhere..
[23:43] <nomopofomo> christaker: are you saying you have no sound at all now?
[23:44] <apparle> christaker: check if removing pulseaudio makes it work......obviously if you don't need pulse audeo
[23:44] <christaker> nomopofomo: at flash videos
[23:44] <christaker> nomopofomo: i have kubuntu 9.10....will be any problem if i remove pulseaudio?
[23:45] <nomopofomo> i'm not sure, i woudln't recommend it personally but maybe apparle knows more about it than i do
[23:45] <nomopofomo> anyways, anyone know how i can decrypt pgp files in kde like i can in gnome?
[23:45] <apparle> christaker: Or ellse set OSS instead of ALSA but I don't remeber how to do it
[23:46] <apparle> christaker: I dunno.... it was a suggestion only
[23:47] <drakon> Hay, How do i got about running Dolphin as root? can some one tell me the command?
[23:47] <drakon> go*
[23:48] <drakon> Hay, How do i go about running Dolphin as root? can some one tell me the command?
[23:49] <JontheEchidna> kdesudo dolphin
[23:49] <drakon> Thank you
[23:49] <drakon> I'll try that
[23:51] <drakon> Okay umm that didn't seem to work, I'm using Kubuntu 9.10
[23:52] <nomopofomo> anyone know how to decrypt pgp files in kubuntu?
[23:52] <drakon> I'm trying to edit my samba config file but i have to do it as root
[23:52] <drakon> how do i got about doing that
[23:53] <cosmic303> ok this is weird..i just connected a 17" tft screen and it works...
[23:53] <cosmic303> only my 19" samsung wont display any picture
[23:53] <memenode> Anyone using skulpture KDE style?
[23:54] <apparle> cosmic303: check if monitor is alright
[23:54] <cosmic303> well before the update it was..lol
[23:56] <cosmic303> i just might try to set the resolution to 1280x1024 and 60hz with the 17" and switch back to 19"
[23:57] <drakon> I'm trying to edit my samba config file but i have to do it as root, how do i do that?
[23:57] <cosmic303> type sudo vi /etc/samba/smb.conf
[23:57] <drakon> Thank you