/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2009/10/30/#ubuntu-ops.txt

* nalioth is still sore about them jettisioning irssi from the defaults . . 00:04
Flannelnalioth: Amen to that00:05
topylidamn those ubuntu people00:05
Flanneltopyli: eh, it's important in the case of X breakage.  "irc" at a terminal starts up a happy-friendly-help session00:05
topyliwhut00:06
topylii've never had irssi on ubuntu, so i wouldn't know how painful it is. my irssi runs on a debian server00:06
Flanneltopyli: Since irssi isn't installed by default, you have no IRC client should X break00:06
Flannel(by default)00:07
topylithis much i know00:07
Flanneltopyli: Back when irssi was, you did.00:07
topylihmm00:08
topylii still wouldn't include irssi on the cd. apparently, you would :)00:08
FlannelI just think having some live communication from broken-X is an important safety net00:09
topylisure, agreed00:10
topylinot sure if a newbie with broken X would think about this though00:10
Flannelwhether that means installed by default, or hand-held through installing/using when X breaks, or whatever.00:10
Flanneltopyli: Right.  but "irc" does start irssi through alternatives00:10
Flannelso, one needn't know about irssi exactly00:11
topylihrm. except it doesnt?00:11
Flanneltopyli: do you have irssi installed?00:12
Seeker`irssi \o/00:13
Seeker`is it out yet?00:13
Flanneldoes "irc" start whatever GUI you've got?00:13
topylinot on ubuntu. it's on the server over there somewhere00:13
Flanneltopyli: Ah well, it does!00:13
topyliFlannel, 'irc' says there is nothing, and advices me to install.... OHHH NOW I SEE00:14
topylithis really is not good00:14
Flanneltopyli: if you have irssi installed, "irc" starts irssi (/etc/alternatives/irc)00:14
topylibut program-not-found doesn't even mention it00:15
MenZaCould someone watch llua in #u?00:15
nikothe best place for irssi in into a screen on a server00:15
topylihaha00:15
FlannelMenZa: Just removed from -ot00:15
MenZaFlannel: Aye, I saw00:16
MenZaFlannel: He's re-spamming in #u00:16
mnainesI found a good book to recommend to people who want to get more in-depth information about Ubuntu01:39
FlannelHowdy mnaines, how can we help you tonight?01:39
mnainesFlannel, I found a book to recommend to people who want to get more in-depth info about Ubuntu01:39
mnaines"The Official Ubuntu Book", written by some of the top contributors to the Ubuntu project01:40
mnainesIt covers Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Edubuntu, common problems and troubleshooting issues, installation and use, ubuntu server, and command line stuff01:42
Seeker`sorry, I seem to have missed how the is relevant to -ops01:43
mnainesSeeker`: I figure the ops would be able to recommend the book to people if the question cannot be answered in the support room01:43
Seeker`if people are asking questions in #ubuntu and don't get an answer, there are better options than a book to refer them to next01:44
mnainesTrue01:45
mnainesAnyway, I'm out01:45
krummlaufuh01:46
Seeker`how can we help you?01:48
Madpilotum, does everyone with a membership cloak have ops in -release-party?02:43
naliothMadpilot: that's what the ACL says02:45
Madpilotah02:45
naliothwhy do you ask?02:45
FlannelHellow's relishing in it still, I imagine.02:46
Madpilotjust had a random member attempt to bounce a quasi-troll02:46
Madpilotyes, Hellow02:46
naliothfeel free to rein 'em in (via PM, preferably)02:46
Madpilotvs Ubantu_Dude, who thankfully is being ignored02:46
FlannelHowdy mnaines, how can we help you today?03:14
mnainesI do not know how to call the ops to the support room, but we are having an issue with a particular room member03:14
Flannelmnaines: Whos that?03:14
mnainesGoes by the name MatFarrel, he's whining that there aren't enough seeds on the torrent and he keeps telling people to help him make the download faster03:14
Flannelmnaines: I'll keep an eye on him, thanks for the headsup03:15
mnainesNot a problem03:15
krummlaufwheres ikonia03:25
cdm10(Ubantu is in #u, in case no one noticed)03:34
ubottuHellow called the ops in #ubuntu ()03:36
cdm10Shabalabadingda03:40
ubottuMenZa called the ops in #ubuntu (Shabalabadingda)03:40
MenZaNo ops around?03:41
MenZa!staff03:41
ubottuHey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick, seanw, Dave2, Christel, tomaw, Gary, Vorian, PriceChild, niko or stew, I could use a bit of your time :)03:41
* Amaranth loves Floodbot03:41
MenZaAmaranth: Could you clean up in #u?03:42
AmaranthDepends on what clean up means :)03:42
AmaranthMenZa: You don't have access?03:42
MenZaNope.03:42
MenZaUbantu, Shabalabadinga.03:42
cdm10erm, he's back?03:43
AmaranthMenZa: Have at it :)03:43
MenZaNot anymore, apparently.03:43
* Amaranth is doing some programming stuff right now03:43
cdm10Amaranth: it's THAT easy to get ops in #u? Damn, shoulda tried that a long time ago! :)03:43
Amaranthcdm10: MenZa is an op, just not in #ubuntu03:44
cdm10Amaranth: ah. Haven't seen him around.03:44
Amaranthhrm, guess he doesn't want to do it03:45
MenZaI did not notice that until now, Amaranth :P03:45
AmaranthWell, I guess you can just call for ops as needed03:45
AmaranthI'll be gone (bed) in about 45 minutes03:45
MenZaShall do, you seem to be the only one around.03:46
ubottuScottTesterman called the ops in #kubuntu ()03:46
_Ubantu_Dude_I am being unfairly treated in the ubuntu channels03:47
AmaranthHow do?03:47
Amarantherr, how so?03:47
_Ubantu_Dude_Well Hellow banned me from Ubuntu-release-party because I accused him of being a douche bag because his mom took away all of his anime and grounded him03:47
AmaranthUh03:48
_Ubantu_Dude_and tonyyarusso banned me from #ubuntu-offtopic because I told him I fornicated with his imaginary girlfriend03:48
Amaranth_Ubantu_Dude_: You're not getting unbanned, you might as well just leave now03:48
MenZa_Ubantu_Dude_: Please stop trolling.03:48
MenZaOr at least go to a different channel so you can get k-lined.03:48
_Ubantu_Dude_and I forgot why I got banned from #ubuntu but I think I said some ethnic slur or something anit-hew03:48
_Ubantu_Dude_jew03:48
_Ubantu_Dude_I forget what I do these days03:48
MenZa_Ubantu_Dude_: Then maybe you shouldn't be in the #ubuntu channels.03:49
MenZa!coc > _Ubantu_Dude_03:49
ubottu_Ubantu_Dude_, please see my private message03:49
_Ubantu_Dude_O its cool, ive been klined atleast 30 times from freenode03:49
Amaranth!ops03:49
ubottuHelp! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) -  elky,  imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, Madpilot, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso,  PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow, nickrud, jpds, bazhang, jussi01, Flannel or ikonia!03:49
ubottuAmaranth called the ops in #ubuntu-ops ()03:49
MenZanalioth, would you care to take alook at the above statement?03:49
cdm10_Ubantu_Dude_: you're Doing It Wrong03:49
MenZacdm10: Please don't interfere :)03:49
cdm10sorry :)03:49
_Ubantu_Dude_I am just using some random tor exit node at the moment to be honest03:49
_Ubantu_Dude_Dude Amaranth did you summon like captian planet or something03:50
_Ubantu_Dude_maybe even voltron?03:50
AmaranthYou're obviously not because those are flagged as such by freenode. Try again.03:50
_Ubantu_Dude_I would say 90% of them are03:51
_Ubantu_Dude_but anyway03:51
MenZa!staff | _Ubantu_Dude_ (K-line evasion)03:51
ubottu_Ubantu_Dude_ (K-line evasion): Hey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick, seanw, Dave2, Christel, tomaw, Gary, Vorian, PriceChild, niko or stew, I could use a bit of your time :)03:51
_Ubantu_Dude_si am I getting unbanned or what?03:51
Amaranth_Ubantu_Dude_: Nope03:51
_Ubantu_Dude_Aww why not?03:51
_Ubantu_Dude_you guys are no fun03:53
_Ubantu_Dude_its bed time anyway03:53
_Ubantu_Dude_have a good night!03:53
ubottuyuriy called the ops in #kubuntu ()03:54
MenZaFor the record, I notified jayne of his comments, Amaranth03:56
MenZacdm10: Do you have any further?03:56
cdm10MenZa: er, about?03:57
MenZacdm10: You tell me. :)03:57
MenZacdm10: Please not our non-idling policy in the /topic03:57
cdm10MenZa: oh, sorry :)03:57
MenZanp :)03:57
Flannelwow, still going.05:53
jussi01!isitout06:16
ubottuNo! It's not out yet! Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party, and be sure to read channel /topic!06:16
jussi01!no, isitout is <reply>YES!!! its out! Please try to use a torrent or a mirror to get your downloads. Torrents can be found at http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/ and support is in #ubuntu06:18
ubottuI'll remember that jussi0106:18
jussi01!isitout06:18
ubottuYES!!! its out! Please try to use a torrent or a mirror to get your downloads. Torrents can be found at http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/ and support is in #ubuntu06:18
MenZajussi01: so. many. exclamation. marks.06:23
* MenZa cries for humanity06:23
Tm_T!!!!!!1106:23
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about 1106:23
MenZalol06:23
MenZa!4206:23
ubottuThe Answer to Life, the Universe, and Everything.06:23
jussi01MenZa: its for release party mostly, it needs them :P06:24
MenZa:D06:24
MenZajussi01: Then I demand "YES!!11oneonecos(2b^(2y/3x^2))"06:24
MenZaIf you're going to overdo it, overdo it properly!06:24
ubottuFloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (mass join)06:25
jussi01rofl06:25
jussi01thats probably my fault06:26
ubottuFloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (mass join)06:26
jussi01the mass join I mean.06:26
jussi01I just forwarded #ubuntu+1 to #ubuntu and cleared the channel.06:27
jussi01we will re-open it soon.06:27
Flannel!!!!!punctuation | MenZa06:30
ubottuMenZa: Punctuation is good, but its overuse hurts readability:  Please refrain from adding many ?'s or !'s to the end of your sentences.  See also !enter06:30
MenZa:D06:30
FlannelMenZa: cos(2b^(2y/3x^2))?  intersting06:30
MenZaRather.06:31
FlannelInteresting surface at any rate.06:31
MenZaSet it to = 0, then try to solve it.06:31
MenZaProvide solution.06:31
Flannelpi/4 = b^(2y/3x^2), ln(pi/4) = ln(b^(2y/3x^2)06:32
mneptokjussi01: did my e-mail make it to the list?06:33
jussi01mneptok: yes06:33
mneptokexmohlent06:33
FlannelMenZa: y = ln(pi/4)/ln(b) 3x^206:35
Flannelbooorrrinnggg06:35
Flannelmath broke the servers :(06:38
jussi01haha06:38
jussi01ubot3`: isitout06:38
ubot3`No! It's not out yet! Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party, and be sure to read channel /topic!06:38
* jussi01 sighs... mayb in a few mins...06:39
* mneptok outs ubot3` 06:39
Tm_Tjussi01: you didn't immune me (:06:40
jussi01Tm_T: theres is no immunity, unless you happen to be freenode staff :06:41
ubottuFloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)06:42
ubottuFloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)06:42
Tm_Tjussi01: bah, then that's no fun06:45
jussi01hehe06:46
Flanneljussi01: You should've kicked ubottu first from +106:53
jussi01Flannel: ?06:53
Flanneljussi01: bantracker is full of a bajillion removes from +106:53
jussi01crap, thats a good point.06:54
Flannel(bajillion is a technical term, by the way)06:54
jussi01hehe06:54
MenZadear lord, Flannel06:55
FlannelMenZa: I didn't do it!06:55
Tm_T0853.22 < partyanimal3_> well some idiot guy posted his link with this name on facebook06:55
Tm_Tsillyness06:55
MenZaFlannel: I meant the solution to my expression06:56
MenZaChrist dude.06:56
FlannelMenZa: Oh, what?06:56
MenZaKu. Dos.06:56
* MenZa is not a mathematician.06:56
MenZanow write it in latex!06:56
* MenZa whips06:56
Flannely &= \ln \frac{\frac{\pi{}}{4}}{\ln b} 3x^206:58
MenZay &= \cos\left(2b^{\frac{2y}{3x^2}--yeah.06:58
MenZa:P06:58
MenZaLaTeX is wonderful.06:58
MenZaAnd stop it, you're keeping me from doing work.06:58
MenZaFlannel: By the way, the database is coming along sexily.06:58
FlannelAwwww, how cute.  We both assume multiline equations :)06:58
MenZaYes. :306:58
MenZaalign <306:58
Madpilotspeaking of numbers, did we ever break 2000 in #ubuntu?06:59
MenZa1800-something, I believe was our max06:59
FlannelMadpilot: nope, 186506:59
* MenZa modifies supybot to fork repeatedly and join #ubuntu07:00
jussi01not bad tho07:00
MenZanot at all07:00
Flanneland -r-p peaked at 117707:00
* jussi01 forks MenZa07:00
Madpilotya, that's the most I saw07:00
FlannelI don't remember what our peak was prior, I've only had chanpeak loaded for a release or two, I want to say dapper had a big #u07:01
Madpilotbut I had lousy connectivity all afternoon, the landlady's awful router hates fast bittorrent connections and I was torrenting both ISOs...07:01
Flannelbut, it mightve been 18 something07:01
jussi01oh, thats new....07:01
jussi01http://edition.cnn.com/2009/TECH/10/29/internet.domains.languages/index.html07:01
Flanneljussi01: great....07:01
bazhanginstalling a windows iso from within Ubuntu? possible/on topic ?07:02
jussi01hehe07:04
jussi01One question that has not yet been resolved, however, is how people in countries that use the Latin script will be able to access Web sites with Korean, Hindi or Arabic domain names. ICANN doesn't have an answer to that, but is confident a new technology will fill that gap soon.07:04
FlannelYeah, we'll be going to domains that I don't know how to read, let alone pronounce.07:05
Flanneland we'll have g[random o-ish letter][random-oish letter]gle.com!07:05
Flannelphishing? what's that!07:05
jussi01göögle.com?07:05
jussi01:D07:05
jussi01I think I need to register that :D07:06
Flanneljussi01: Nah, they'll find things that look identical.  Although, goeoegle is interesting indeed.07:06
Tm_Tgøøgle ?07:06
mneptokhttp://www.google.com/intl/xx-bork/07:06
mneptokbork bork bork!07:06
jussi01Flannel: funny thing is, göögle would be pronounced gurgleh :P07:07
FlannelTm_T: My sister was once bitten by a moose!07:07
Flannelnø realli!07:07
jussi01löl07:08
MenZawin.07:08
MenZagøøgle!07:08
Tm_Tõöøöóò and what else...07:10
jussi01Tm_T: www.micrösöft.com07:10
jussi01www.yåhoo.com07:10
jussi01www.yähoo.com07:10
jussi01the list could go on forever07:11
Tm_Tjussi01: å is o07:11
jussi01Tm_T: we are talking about looks, not actual sounds...07:11
Tm_Twas about to say that (:07:11
mneptokVeelkomm tiw Miikrosuft! Zee niw Veenders Servin eez bin ryoolesed!07:12
mneptokBORK BORK BORK!07:13
Flannelbjork bjork bjork!07:13
jussi01mneptok: ...07:13
mneptokjussi01: *gasp* you don't know the Swedish Chef?!07:14
mneptokhttp://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=swedish+chef&search=Search07:14
krummlaufwe can say whatever we want here huh07:15
krummlaufBORK BORK BORK BORK07:15
krummlaufEHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHhhehehehehhehhehehhehhhehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe07:15
bazhang?07:15
mneptokkrummlauf: if you have no current business with the ops team, we ask you do not idle. please read the /topic07:18
krummlaufhuh07:21
krummlaufi do07:21
krummlaufi do07:21
mneptokwhich is ...07:21
krummlaufoh07:21
krummlaufikonioa07:21
krummlaufgivin me probs07:22
mneptokidle     : 0 days 8 hours 9 mins 0 secs [signon: Wed Oct 28 15:07:48 2009]07:22
mneptoksafe to assume you will not be speaking about it with him soon.07:23
mneptokyou should /part and then /join later to see if he's active.07:23
topylii'm all for unicode domains. motörhead can finally create an official website, and they totally deserve one07:25
jussi01topyli: hehe07:26
mneptoktopyli: lånce ðis böil ön my fåce07:29
topylihöhöhö07:29
mneptoktrå lå lå07:29
jussi01höh07:31
Tm_Tkids...07:33
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mneptokkrummlauf: i have tried to be nice. please leave this channel until ikonia is active.07:38
dholbachgood morning07:38
mneptokdholbach: moin!07:38
* mneptok heads to bed07:43
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jussi01_!forget isitout-#ubuntu-release-party08:41
ubottuIn #ubuntu-ops, jussi01_ said: !forget isitout-#ubuntu-release-party08:41
jussi01_@login08:41
ubottuError: Your hostmask doesn't match or your password is wrong.08:41
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jussi01@login08:41
ubottuThe operation succeeded.08:41
jussi01!forget isitout-#ubuntu-release-party08:41
ubottuI'll forget that, jussi0108:41
Mamarokcan somebody have an eye on #kubuntu, please? I am hungry...09:39
Tm_TMamarok: I'll try a moment, but not sure how long I can09:46
MamarokTm_T: mostly to prevent Jonathan aka eagles to tell silly stuff09:47
Tm_Troger09:47
Tm_Tok, I really cannot help I notice, being busy here with two ~1 year old kids10:00
nikowhat's wrong with floodbots ?11:12
Tm_Tthey are not flooding11:15
Tm_Tbots, I mean11:15
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bratizPirate474 #ubuntu You're banned from that channel14:36
bazhangbratizPirate, yes that's right14:36
bratizPiratecan b unbaned plz??14:36
PiciWhy?14:36
bratizPirateonly bcoz nathan 71 said he waned to shank me14:36
bratizPirateand then i said it for him14:37
bratizPiratesorry14:37
PiciWhat about the whole 'I leaked the iso to pirate bay' thing?14:37
bratizPiratei tought it was cool14:37
PicibratizPirate: Even after being asked to stop and being removed from the channel?14:38
PicibratizPirate: Please take a look at our channel guidelines:14:38
Pici!guidelines14:38
ubottuThe guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines14:38
bratizPirateits because of what nathan said14:38
bratizPiratei wantd to provoke him14:38
bratizPiratebut i wont doit again14:38
bratizPiratei think it was well rude that nathan cud say that and nothing happend to him but i got banned14:43
bratizPiratenot nice to say some1 that u wanna shank them14:43
PicibratizPirate: Both of you were asked to stop14:45
bratizPiratehe did 2 times... <nathan71> <---- stab again bratiz14:46
PicibratizPirate: What do you intend to do if you do get back into #ubuntu ?14:46
bratizPiratei wont say more that i leaked it in pir8 b8 and i wont say nothin to nathan14:46
bratizPirateonly if he says somethign 2 me14:47
PicibratizPirate: I mean, the channel is only for support questions and answers, is that why you want to be in there?14:48
bratizPirateyeah14:49
bratizPiratei cna changed nick into bratiz14:49
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bratizcan i b unbanend plz?14:50
Picibratiz: Did you take a look at the guidelines that ubottu posted above15:02
Pici(sorry, busy here at work too)15:02
bratizyeap i readed it15:03
Picibratiz: I've unbanned you, if you continue the same behavior from before you will find yourself outside the channel and we won't be so lenient the next time.15:08
bratizok thanx15:09
mneptokuhhhh .... "pirate bait?"15:51
bazhanggburton, how may we assist you16:23
gburtonahh, i was just curious. i shall exit the channel now...16:23
bazhang<bratiz> how can i get cd key for ubuntu PRo?16:29
ubottuFloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)16:39
ubottuFloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)16:39
erUSULhi there; grub2 is confusing many people... has someone an idea or webpage for a quick factoid?17:00
Pici!grub217:01
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager in Karmic. For more information on GRUB2 please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub217:01
bazhangthe wiki looks pretty solid17:01
ubottuIn ubottu, erUSUL said: grub2 is To change the configuration of grub2 menu check the /etc/default/grub and /etc/grub.d/README files.17:02
erUSULoops did not know about that factoid17:02
* erUSUL should have checked17:02
bazhangheh17:02
bazhangI'm not getting into trouble over this one :)17:03
erUSULciao17:03
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ubottujoaopinto called the ops in #ubuntu (derek_smart playing the troll)18:30
Mamarokok, off for tonight, somebody should watch #k, lot of people in there right now18:31
joaopintocan someone ban derek_smart ? he is been trolling #ubuntu for quite some time18:33
Amaranthjoaopinto: He doesn't seem to be obviously doing anything wrong18:33
AmaranthI'd say he is probably a troll but until he actually does something...18:34
joaopintoAmaranth, did you read the part where h called jerks to those which explained that Karmic Koala is a release name ?18:34
joaopintohe18:34
joaopinto<derek_smart> im trying to help people and this big jerk keeps attacking me18:34
joaopintobecause he is insting that Karmic and Koala are different versions on trolish manners18:35
Take0nI can't join #ubuntu and I don't know why :\18:46
Take0nI got disconnected and after that I was unable to join..18:46
AmaranthTake0n: checking18:47
Take0nI got disconnected with read error 54 I think..18:48
Take0nand now I get redirected to ubuntu-read-topic18:48
Amaranthah, exploit18:49
Amaranthdid you read the topic?18:49
Take0nyeah18:49
Take0nthe thing is.. I don't have any router etc :\18:50
Amaranthyour modem counts18:50
Take0nand what kind of exploit? where? and from who?18:50
Take0nI have no modem either :P18:50
Take0nand from nowhere?18:50
Amaranth!exploit18:51
ubottuThere are people around who think it is funny to abuse a bug in certain routers by sending invalid DCC commands. When bitten by this bug ops in #ubuntu remove users so they are no longer targets. To fix it have a look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixDCCExploit18:51
AmaranthTake0n: did you type "test me" in #ubuntu-read-topic?18:51
Take0nyes18:51
Take0nand I got disconnected :\18:51
Amaranthok, so you need to change what port you connect to18:52
Take0nyou mean 6667?18:52
Amaranthyou need to connect to freenode on port 800118:52
Amaranththen type "test me" in #ubuntu-read-topic again and it'll unban you automatically18:52
Take0nbut I want to understand why..18:53
AmaranthTake0n: How do you connect to the internet?18:53
th1can we have derek_smart banned pls? he is trolling in a very disruptive, persistent and annoying way18:53
joaopintoth1, I already warned about that, Amaranth does not agree18:53
th1ok..18:54
th1just wanted to point it out ;) keep an eye on him18:54
Take0nI live in sweden and they recently installed fiberoptic I think they are called.. internet connections so every house in stockholm (or most of the houses) have jacks (are they called jacks? connectors or something) on the wall so I plug the ethernet cable on the wall and then on my computer18:54
AmaranthTake0n: Ok, did they put a box in your basement or outside the house or something?18:55
Take0nThere is a box on our appartment but I don't use routers etc.. I don't know if they have builtin router to give internet to every room18:55
AmaranthOk, that's it then18:55
AmaranthThe apartment building has a router, it has the bug18:55
Take0nThere are 2 Ext ports.. I am connecting through the first Ext1 (no router) the rest of the house are connected to a router which is connected on Ext218:55
Take0nand that router is a netgear18:56
AmaranthLook, somewhere between you and your ISP there is a router with exploitable firmware18:56
Take0nso I should contact my ISP providere18:56
Take0nand tell them about this?18:56
Take0nprovider*18:56
AmaranthThe fact that you get disconnected with this exploit is all the proof you need18:56
AmaranthSure, maybe they can patch the firmware18:56
AmaranthBut for now you need to connect to freenode on port 8001 to get back into #ubuntu18:56
Take0ndo you know the command to get me disconnected?18:56
AmaranthI do18:57
Take0nI want to try it to be sure..18:57
Take0ncould you try it on me?18:57
AmaranthUsing it will probably get me klined18:57
Amaranthjust have the bots test you18:57
Take0nhow? if I type test me will it test it?18:57
Take0nAmaranth, thanks :)19:02
Take0nI will call them on monday to let them know19:02
AmaranthAlright, cool19:02
Take0nbye bye :)19:02
AmaranthIf the ISP fixes it your neighbors won't have to worry about it :)19:02
wschcan someone talk to derek_smart ?19:06
wschin #ubuntu19:06
wschhes getting kindof annoying19:06
AmaranthDone19:07
wschthank you19:07
derek_smartrequest to unban me plz19:21
derek_smartAmaranth: who banned me19:23
Amaranthderek_smart: You were generally disruptive and somewhat offtopic and you were told about it a couple times19:31
AmaranthYou seem to not understand how #ubuntu works19:31
derek_smartno i was making sure they understood swap some dude was saying that it should be small but its not true19:33
derek_smartif they follow advice then hibernation doesnt work19:33
derek_smartakin to rm -rf /19:33
Amaranth...19:33
derek_smartcheck the logs19:33
Amaranth1) No, not true19:33
derek_smartim not lying and i know u can check the logs19:33
Amaranth2) Never put that command in an IRC channel19:33
derek_smartlol?19:33
AmaranthYou kept telling me about rendering hurd19:33
derek_smartexample19:33
derek_smartyes i admit that is ot19:34
derek_smarti have sources for the swap thing... kernel.org... if you want to ban until i get them thats ok19:34
derek_smartur call19:34
AmaranthEssentially whenever I asked you to settle down you gave me a snarky reply19:34
derek_smartif you explicitely said hey swap doesnt work that way, then yes, i did19:34
derek_smartbecause i had to for the benefit of the users19:35
derek_smartagain pointless without my sources19:35
derek_smartyou tell me19:35
Amaranthderek_smart: It depends on RAM usage19:35
derek_smartand whats the idea19:35
derek_smarthey dont max out your ram because i suggested that swap should be xyz?19:35
AmaranthHibernating drops all disk caches before writing RAM out to disk19:35
derek_smartram can be maxed out and the caches get paged out19:35
AmaranthSo right now I've got 2GB of RAM but would only need 768MB or so swap to hibernate19:36
derek_smartwhats more complicated19:36
AmaranthSure, it can be19:36
derek_smartmicromanaging ram for a new ubuntu user or hey, be safe, swap=ram or more...19:36
AmaranthBut it's not absolutely correct that swap needs to equal RAM for hibernate to work and this is what they were trying to tell you19:36
derek_smartAmaranth: its the safest assumption because even implying that a common ubuntu user should be keeping tabs on their ram in order to properly hibernate is rediculous19:37
AmaranthBut I've had several people ask to have you removed from the channel for being disruptive so I'm not sure I want to let you back in right now19:37
derek_smartif by being disruptive you mean talking about basic kernel behaviour then yea i was... i guess you dont want to read the log19:37
derek_smarti was literaly explaining that19:37
AmaranthI was in the channel at the time19:37
derek_smartyes the odd hurd mention19:38
derek_smartdoesnt warrant a ban tbh19:38
derek_smarti just wanna help out the community and i am PASSIONATE about it19:38
derek_smartPASSIONATE19:38
AmaranthYou were talking about koala and karmic and a laptop specific install and how this was all hurd and you were rendering it and on and on19:38
AmaranthPerhaps dial the passion down just a little and come back in 24 hours19:38
derek_smarti was confused about the release system usually distros say stuff like 9.10 or whatever19:39
derek_smart24 hours jesus christ19:39
derek_smarti jay walked and youre treating it like 3rd degree murder man19:39
AmaranthYou don't seem to understand the reason you were banned19:40
derek_smarti do it was the hurd19:40
AmaranthIt doesn't matter if you were right, wrong, etc19:40
AmaranthYou were disruptive19:40
AmaranthNo, that was just the cherry on top19:40
derek_smartit does because my advice, even while disruptive, kept some people from potentionally screwing hibernation19:41
derek_smartsometimes you gotta prioritize19:41
ikoniaderek_smart: do you need anything else as it's been 20 minutes since the conversation ended20:16
ikoniaderek_smart: I can see you active in #gentoo and fedora can you please respond20:20
derek_smartwhat20:22
derek_smartim not banned anymore or what20:23
ikoniaahhh thank you for responding20:23
ikoniaI believe you've been told to come back in 24 hours20:23
derek_smartoh20:23
MenZaooh, elky day!21:06
ubottuguntbert called the ops in #ubuntu (BLACK_MAN trolling)21:41
Seeker`is there an "elky day" now?21:44
ubottuIn ubottu, guntbert said: !keyserver is <reply> The ubuntu key server is to be found at http://keyserver.ubuntu.com. If this one is unresponsive you can use most other gpg key servers as well - for instance http://pgp.mit.edu/21:58
th1hey22:29
th1ubottu seems to be dead22:29
ikonia!ping22:30
ikoniacertainly responding slow22:30
th1he didn't respond at all for several triggers in #u and pm22:30
ikoniaodd, if the host is having a problem she normally dies22:30
Seeker`it usually either recovers by itself or dies totally22:31
th1he's not even responding to ctcp ping22:31
th1must be link-dead22:31
th1or crashed22:31
Seeker`if something is going slowly, prodding it even more won't help it recover any faster22:32
th1usually a ctcp ping can be dealt with in a couple of ms ;)22:32
th1even for perl22:32
jpdsIt's python.22:32
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)22:33
ubottupong!22:33
Seeker`th1: still, prodding it more won't help22:33
th1ok he's working again :)22:33
th1thanks and see you later22:33
ubottuerUSUL called the ops in #ubuntu (lenswipe|server)22:38
BodsdaAssistance in #ubuntu please22:38
Bodsdalenswipe|server is spamming the channel22:38
jpdsWatching.22:38
Bodsdacheers jpds -- for your info. He has spammed several lines of ascii text images twice now22:39
ubottuLjL called the ops in #ubuntu (lenswipe|s)22:39
jpdsBodsda: He will be no more of a nuisance to you.22:39
Bodsdathanks jpds, I appreciate it22:40
jpds;)22:40
Seeker`heya elky22:45
Seeker`how are you doing?22:45
elky_e71pouting about being in hospital on my birthday22:47
Flannelelky_e71: Could be worse!22:47
elky_e71?22:48
=== bazhang_ is now known as bazhang
bazhangHappy Birthday elky_e71 !!22:58
bazhangwe missed your presence at the release party22:58
ikoniahappy birthday elky_e71 - I'm sorry you're suffering in Hospital for it23:01
elky_e71just asked how much longer... nobody knows. graaaaaaaagh23:26
bazhanghope you get well asap elky_e7123:27
ubottuBodsda called the ops in #ubuntu (Wombleness)23:29
MenZaSuch a bad troll. :[---wait, elky_e71 is in hospital?!23:30
* MenZa rushes to blog, twitter, and facebook23:31
bazhangMenZa, yep23:31
MenZaWhat's she done now?!23:31
elky_e71as far as i am concerned, i am well. These morons just have no chain of communication going on23:31
* MenZa hugs elky_e71 23:32
jpdswombles got -devel too.23:32
bazhangjpds, thanks have him in PM23:34
bazhangnow in -ot23:35
elky_e71menza infectetd tooth23:37
ubottuZachK_ called the ops in #ubuntu (Wombleness)23:40
jpdswut23:40
Flannelsigh23:41
Flannellast time I trust ZachK's judgement23:41
bazhanghe was muted and in PM..23:41
FlannelMmmm, it was a mute not a ban.23:42
FlannelI know I'd need a +b go up23:42
Flannelseen even, not need.23:51
bazhanghehe23:51

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