[00:00] <joaopinto> RenatoSilva, not, it will be kept
[00:00] <TheCheeze> it'
[00:00] <ActionParsnip> RenatoSilva: no, you can still install it
[00:00] <TheCheeze> s not intel.. it's broadcom i think
[00:00] <ActionParsnip> !info pidgin karmic
[00:00] <arand> habanany: firefox-3.7 -safe-mode
[00:00] <TheCheeze> Hp Pavilion dv2000 series laptop
[00:00] <RenatoSilva> ActionParsnip: what if I didn't have it?
[00:00] <tanath> which is good. empathy is not up to par yet.
[00:00] <mattwj2002> is #ubuntu+1 closed?
[00:00] <RenatoSilva> joaopinto: ^^
[00:00] <LjL> yessssssss
[00:00] <ActionParsnip> RenatoSilva: sudo apt-get install pidgin
[00:00] <MenZa> mattwj2002: Yes.
[00:00] <joaopinto> RenatoSilva, then you will not get it unless you chose to install it
[00:00] <RenatoSilva> LjL: hi
[00:00] <mattwj2002> why?
[00:00] <tanath> mattwj2002, 'cause there is no ubuntu+1 anymore
[00:00] <tanath> mattwj2002, it's released now
[00:01] <mattwj2002> shouldn't it cover 10.04?
[00:01] <miromanyth> TheCheeze: I'm afraid I don't know about that. Hopefully someone else can help. If not, search the forums! They always seem to work for me, eventually anyway.
[00:01] <RenatoSilva> joaopinto: but pidgin came installed, why not the new client?
[00:01] <tanath> mattwj2002, doesn't exist yet
[00:01] <mattwj2002> oh okay
[00:01] <fxhp> 9.04
[00:01] <ActionParsnip> mattwj2002: lucid is in hugely early stages
[00:01] <lircdbugr> joaopinto: via Passwords and Encryption keys?
[00:01] <joaopinto> RenatoSilva, pidgin does not get installed by default on karmic
[00:01] <RenatoSilva> joaopinto: ubuntu always came with some IM installed, why not this time
[00:01] <arand> mattwj2002: it opens ub on the 5th when the toolchain is uploaded
[00:01] <joaopinto> lircdbugr, yes
[00:01] <Chriz1> is 9.10 lts?
[00:01] <fxhp> 9.10
[00:01] <dksoba88> quick question... if I type 'ls *.vis' it'll show all .vis files... How would I get a listing of all not *.vis files?
[00:01] <ubuntu__1> !session
[00:01] <joaopinto> RenatoSilva, it does come with empathy
[00:01] <fxhp> No
[00:01] <mattwj2002> sounds good
[00:01] <fxhp> 8.4
[00:01] <ActionParsnip> Chriz1: no 10.04 is the next lts
[00:01] <mattwj2002> I am dieing for Gnome 3!
[00:01] <mattwj2002> :D
[00:02] <RenatoSilva> joaopinto: who said pidgin get installed by default in karmic?
[00:02] <mattwj2002> 9.10 is awesome though I just installed it
[00:02] <mattwj2002> and I love it
[00:02] <mattwj2002> great work
[00:02] <mattwj2002> :D
[00:02] <joaopinto> RenatoSilva, grrr, <RenatoSilva> joaopinto: but pidgin came installed, why not the new client?
[00:02] <FloodBot1> mattwj2002: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:02] <Chriz1> cool, 8.10 will be support till 2012 right?
[00:02] <conb123> tanath: Ahhh maybe it was because my usb stick didn't have a boot flag. gparted just added one, do you think that was it?
[00:02] <tanath> conb123, quite possibly
[00:02] <Alan> Bah, what is the point of a verification utility that can't detect when the disk is broken? :(
[00:02] <arand> mattwj2002: Though that'll probably no be in lucid, I think...
[00:03] <RenatoSilva> joaopinto: I AM UPGRADING to 9.10, so you can easily infer I'm talking about < 9.10 ;)
[00:03] <mattwj2002> O_o
[00:03] <ActionParsnip> When will the repos be updated with karmic RC stuffs, or has it already happened?
[00:03] <joaopinto> Chriz1, for servers, yes, not desktops
[00:03] <mattwj2002> I thought it would be
[00:03] <ubuntu__1> ActionParsnip: karmic is out
[00:03] <millertimek1a2m3> i'm having trouble with eclipse. see details here
[00:03] <millertimek1a2m3> http://pastebin.com/m31b89e2e
[00:03] <Chriz1> joaopinto, what if we used the desktop cd and run it as a server?
[00:03] <joaopinto> RenatoSilva, and we already answered you that pidgin will be kept on upgrade :)
[00:03] <RenatoSilva> joaopinto: so emphaty comes with 9.10, so I'll get 2 IMs installed in the end of update?
[00:03] <joaopinto> RenatoSilva, yes
[00:03] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu__1: i know but are the repos up to date with the rC packages
[00:03] <RenatoSilva> joaopinto: aaaah :P
[00:03] <daleharvey> ok, I have a barely surviving fresh install of karma that freezes every few minutes, I have no way to install a new version so I could really do with help to get this one up and running
[00:03] <mattgyver> Anybody currently upgrading, specifically downlading the new packages?
[00:04] <lircdbugr> joaopinto: your reiterating that made me quadruple-check and finally it makes sense: right-clicking the "folder" dropdown allows a blank password.  thanks!
[00:04] <RenatoSilva> joaopinto: thanks john
[00:04] <rick__shadey> First time user.  Just installed 9.10 off a USB stick with a nearly flawless install.  You developers ROCK!
[00:04] <lippij> hey, I have a problem.  Gnome is not loading.  GDM loads and I log in and I get a black screen and a mouse pointer and that is it.
[00:04] <coordinador> Somebody can help me?
[00:04] <ubuntu__1> ActionParsnip: they should be updated with the final packages
[00:04] <MenZa> rick__shadey: Enjoy!
[00:04] <coordinador> Hey guys look at this video, this is happening to me when i enter to gnome in ubuntu 9.10:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipD2rQwJpM0
[00:04] <kh_pylon> how can I force ubiquity to use a specific hard drive?  It doesn't detect my drive
[00:04] <Alan> rick__shadey: how did you create your USB installer?
[00:04] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu__1: cool, thanks
[00:04] <JediMaster> Hey guys, got 9.10 installed from USB stick, working very nicely, extremely fast too =), lovely fresh install with ext4 =D
[00:04] <RenatoSilva> joaopinto: emphaty looks a bit like pidgin, is it the same code base?
[00:04] <ubuntu__1> ActionParsnip: your welcome
[00:04] <Yos> ActionParsnip: I followed each of those steps but it didn't solve the problem
[00:04] <bhearsum> i'm running Ubuntu 9.04 with the Filipino translation - there isn't a filipino 9.10 available yet though - what  happens if i upgrade to karmic? it reverts to english?
[00:04] <Flynsarmy> Short wav files stuff up in karmic. They play super quickly - the pidgin message received sound anyway. every time it plays in pidgin it goes super fast. first time it plays in default media player it does too but after that for the most part its fine
[00:04] <RenatoSilva> joaopinto: didn't try it yet, but it seems just a pidgin with voice and video
[00:04] <MenZa> RenatoSilva: Nothing like it.
[00:04] <ActionParsnip> JediMaster: ext4 will reduce thelife ofthe USB due to the journal
[00:04] <rick__shadey> It actually didnt work with the default installer off the iso.  I used the second suggestion and that worked perfect...
[00:05] <joaopinto> RenatoSilva, not they don't have the same codebasse
[00:05] <RenatoSilva> MenZa: nothing from pidgin? Then it should be good
[00:05] <ActionParsnip> JediMaster: ext2 will prolong its life
[00:05] <MenZa> RenatoSilva: Certainly.
[00:05] <JediMaster> ActionParsnip: sorry, I meant I did the install FROM the USB stick to the HDD
[00:05] <dksoba88> coordinador, wow that's odd...
[00:05] <RenatoSilva> MenZa: how about IRC support
[00:05] <Alan> rick__shadey: second suggestion?
[00:05] <RenatoSilva> MenZa: doesn't look like XChat right?
[00:05] <ifeanyi> I got my built-in mic working now
[00:05] <joaopinto> millertimek1a2m3, Eclipse was updated on karmic, just go to Software center and install it
[00:05] <Argos> anyone yet to try ubuntu 9.10
[00:05] <MenZa> RenatoSilva: It has some, but it's very limited.
[00:05] <ActionParsnip> RenatoSilva: i use carrier, its a fork of pidgin but you can directly ask the devs for functionality
[00:05] <JediMaster> and even so, the live USB stick was damn fast, especially considering it's an old stick
[00:06] <joaopinto> ifeanyi, what have you done ?
[00:06] <VCoolio> hello, I implemented a hack some time ago that when I get "blahblah you need to install package X" terminal also asks "install now?" but I can't find the howto anymore; someone knows the link?
[00:06] <ifeanyi> just recompiled the alsa driver
[00:06] <mattgyver> can you upgrade from the live cd, im getting a really crappy download speed from the servers right now?
[00:06] <GhostWolfy> hi all. i know the new version of ubuntu 9.10 is out today only question i have is if i want to update to that and download it i have to save all my files i have on my hdd right?
[00:06] <gogeta> Argos: been sence beta lol
[00:06] <JediMaster> quick question, the ubuntu site mentions ipod sync with rythmbox, but I can't seem to find any options to do it, am I right in thinking the iphone has to be jailbroken first?
[00:06] <RenatoSilva> MenZa: limited IRC? Hum maybe I will need fudgin still
[00:06] <funkyHat> bhearsum: you will probably find a mixture of filipino and english language
[00:06] <rick__shadey> Alan: Yeah. sorry.  It worked with unetbootin
[00:06] <Alan> rick__shadey: you mean second suggestion on the community wiki? using unetbootin?
[00:06] <ubuntu__1> mattgyver: not that i know of
[00:06] <ActionParsnip> mattgyver: well everyone is upgrading, so it will be slow. think about it
[00:06] <Argos> got a real fast download link ..
[00:06] <RenatoSilva> ActionParsnip: does carrier IM still exist?
[00:06] <Argos> if anyon is interested
[00:06] <Alan> rick__shadey: ooh, awesome - i've just started trying with that :)
[00:06] <MenZa> mattgyver: No - I suggest a clean install, but you can update from the alternate CD. If it's slow, try a torrent.
[00:06] <bigfootbuilt> GhostWolfy: I didnt have to save anything
[00:06] <ActionParsnip> RenatoSilva: totally
[00:06] <bhearsum> funkyHat: ah
[00:06] <MenZa> RenatoSilva: Or, you can use a proper IRC client like XChat, or irssi.
[00:06] <GhostWolfy> bigfootbuilt, what?
[00:07] <mattgyver> ActionParsnip, I know that ;) thats why i wanted to try a live cd
[00:07] <bhearsum> funkyHat: so basically...anything translated will be translated...
[00:07] <gogeta> JediMaster: old ipods can sync itouch and iphone need to be jailbroken for a wifi sync
[00:07] <RenatoSilva> ActionParsnip: I stopped using it when I felt it was a failed fork
[00:07] <Alan> rick__shadey: coulda used you an hour ago :P
[00:07] <Flynsarmy> How do you set the volume level from the terminal in karmic? amixer set 'Master' 75% no longer works
[00:07] <bhearsum> funkyHat: i guess i need to look on launchpad to see how much is translated?
[00:07] <rick__shadey> alan: I'd say good luck, but it was seemless.  Now I just have to learn a whole new OS>  Should be fun though
[00:07] <NoelJB> JediMaster, probably jailbroken and backlevel.  iPhones and iPod Touches are pretty much locked down.
[00:07] <RenatoSilva> MenZa: XChat is -ugly-
[00:07] <MenZa> JediMaster: The keyword is 'iPod' - it will only work with classic iPods.
[00:07] <bigfootbuilt> Ghostwolfy: What are you asking?
[00:07] <MenZa> !iphone > JediMaster
[00:07] <pooky1> hmmmm, there is no Hashes on the UbuntuHashes for Karmic.... ???
[00:07] <MenZa> RenatoSilva: Only as ugly as you make it.
[00:07] <Yos> ActionParsnip: Do you have any other ideas about what I can do ?
[00:07] <GhostWolfy> oh save sorry thought you meant say.. so it didn't format your hdd when you updating to 9.10 from the cd?
[00:07] <netbook> Does anyone have this problem? I click on "System" and I don't have icons for Preferences, Advanced, etc. I do have icons for "Places" and "Applications" HELP!
[00:07] <RenatoSilva> MenZa: huh???
[00:07] <funkyHat> bhearsum: yeah, you probably know better than me how to find that though
[00:07] <NoelJB> !alternative
[00:07] <Flynsarmy> netbook, i have that issue
[00:07] <MenZa> RenatoSilva: You can customise it if you wish. I use irssi myself, but that's all a matter of taste.
[00:08] <RenatoSilva> MenZa: why feel offended? wait I know, you're not
[00:08] <trism> netbook: you can enable the icons again on System/Preferences/Appearance on the Interface tab
[00:08] <bhearsum> funkyHat: ok - thanks!
[00:08] <JediMaster> fair enough, I've got a 3GS begging to be jailbroken, I'll have to blow the dust off my 24" imac I never use to jailbreak it ;-)
[00:08] <MenZa> RenatoSilva: Not at all :)
[00:08] <Argos> wow got it in 15 minutes.
[00:08] <NoelJB> does anyone know off-hand if the alternative install will let you install GRUB1 on a clean install?
[00:08] <netbook> Thank you trism
[00:08] <bigfootbuilt> Ghostwolfy: If you are asking if you have to back up anything, I didn't have to. But I used the update manager to upgrade
[00:08] <JediMaster> Argos, why Argos?
[00:08] <jeremi> hello
[00:08] <netbook> exit
[00:08] <netbook> ;P
[00:08] <NoelJB> I'm in the process of downloading to look, but it will be a while (couple of hours at the current rate).
[00:08] <Argos> dowloadied it in 15 minutes ubuntu
[00:08] <GhostWolfy> bigfootbuilt, ok but if i was to do it from the live cd i would have to right?
[00:08] <JediMaster> Argos, anything to do with the british chain store?
[00:08] <funkyHat> Argos: torrent?
[00:09] <Argos> no..lol
[00:09] <JediMaster> Argos: www.argos.co.uk =)
[00:09] <Argos> no..lol
[00:09] <RenatoSilva> MenZa: it uses the same old-fashioned of aMSN iirc
[00:09] <MenZa> RenatoSilva: No... it doesn't.
[00:09] <RenatoSilva> MenZa: I really wonder wtf is that ugly ui in aMSN
[00:09] <RenatoSilva> MenZa: not GTK certaintly
[00:09] <bigfootbuilt> Ghostwolfy: I'm sorry, I haven't tried live CD
[00:10] <MenZa> RenatoSilva: It is.
[00:10] <GhostWolfy> bigfootbuilt, its ok just asking thats all
[00:10] <gogeta> pidgin forever
[00:10] <RenatoSilva> MenZa: why is aMSN so ugly then, and looking so different from the whole system ui?
[00:10] <MenZa> RenatoSilva: http://video.linux-noob.com/screenshots/ubuntu/7.04/post-1-1178099902.png <- It should look like that.
[00:10] <Flynsarmy> Anyone else experiencing audio issues on pidgin message received sound?
[00:10] <MenZa> RenatoSilva: Oh, aMSN is still not GTK. I thought you meant xchat.
[00:10] <NoelJB> netbook, Flynsarmy -- it is not a bug, it is a new feature.  There is an LP item on it related to the decision.
[00:10] <gogeta> nope
[00:10] <daleharvey> I have a working install that im scared to go out of the shell because it keeps on freezing, does anyone have any ideas about how I can recover it?
[00:10] <GhostWolfy> bigfootbuilt, i was thinkin i would have to save my files i have which is alot if i was going to do it through live cd
[00:10] <localnnuser__> how can i add windows and ubuntu installers into the same pendrive? is it posible to modify grub to boot both os installations?
[00:10] <Ergo^> hello
[00:11] <NoelJB> netbook, Flynsarmy -- you can turn the icons back on, if you wish.
[00:11] <RenatoSilva> MenZa: no, aMSN. What ui then, do you know?
[00:11] <Chronon> I downloaded Kubuntu 9.10 via BitTorrent and verified md4sums.  I burned to CD and it lets me select language, but any selection besides "boot from first hard drive" results in a blinking cursor in the upper left corner.  Trying to install AMD64-desktop-kubuntu
[00:11] <Argos> thx jedi didnt even know that place existed lol
[00:11] <Ramunas> any of you could recommend a decent php editor?
[00:11] <Ergo^> where do i seek help after my dist-update on server ? it doesnt seem to boot up or something
[00:11] <olhado> hey
[00:11] <gogeta> localnnuser__: just make the partations and ubuntu will do the rest
[00:11] <RenatoSilva> MenZa: http://video.linux-noob.com/screenshots/ubuntu/7.04/post-1-1178099902.png ----> UGLY
[00:11] <dksoba88> quick question... if I type 'ls *.vis' it'll show all .vis files... How would I get a listing of all not *.vis files?
[00:11] <erUSUL> Ergo^: here oor maybe over in #ubuntu-server
[00:11] <olhado> question: how can i get wireless going on ubuntu? i have a linksys wireless adapter
[00:11] <olhado> i imagine it needs drivers
[00:12] <bigfootbuilt> Ghostwolfy: I am still kind of new and not sure what live cd is lol. But when I updated from the manager, it went flawlessly and lost nothing
[00:12] <Flynsarmy> Ramunas, komodo has intellitext or calltips or whatever you call them and is free
[00:12] <MenZa> RenatoSilva: Not at all. But this is straying offtopic :)
[00:12] <NoelJB> olhado, yes, it would need drivers.  and generally recognizes any hardware it can use.
[00:12] <bruno123> hey what is a program to trace my route to a certain ip address?  I used to have...but cant remember the name to install it
[00:12] <funkyHat> Come onnnnnnn steam :(
[00:12] <GhostWolfy> bigfootbuilt, live cd is when you download ubuntu from the cd and burn it on a cd
[00:12] <mattgyver> !torrents
[00:12] <olhado> noel, where can i find those?
[00:12] <NoelJB> bruno123, tracepath
[00:12] <RenatoSilva> MenZa: not at all in YOUR opinion. Opinions still exist you know
[00:12] <bruno123> thanks NoelJB
[00:12] <coordinador> dksoba88, and i didnt uploaded that video, i just found because happened to other people
[00:13] <Ramunas> bruno123: system>administration>network tools
[00:13] <gogeta> tracerought
[00:13] <erUSUL> dksoba88: find . ! -name '*.vis' -print
[00:13] <dksoba88> coordinador, so you're saying it's not all that uncommon?
[00:13] <Chronon> ubottu: talking to me?
[00:13] <dksoba88> erUSUL, I'll give that a shot
[00:13] <NoelJB> olhado, not a clue.  I take it that it isn't being recognized when you insert the device?
[00:13] <RenatoSilva> MenZa: about aMSN, do you know what ui it is?
[00:13] <bigfootbuilt> Anyone else know if you have to backup your files if you upgrade with live cd?
[00:13] <dksoba88> erUSUL, thanks
[00:13] <Tetracomm> Hello.
[00:13] <jdahm> Is there keyserver.ubuntu.com not working properly, I can't seem to get a key
[00:13] <Flynsarmy> Does anyone here have pidgin installed and the message received sound turned on and have it playing correctly - ie not faster than it should?
[00:13] <NoelJB> olhado, I'd also monitor udev to see what it thinks/sees as the hardware is processed.
[00:13] <Tetracomm> How do I configure a switch or router in Ubuntu?
[00:13] <erUSUL> jdahm: use the mit keyserver
[00:13] <olhado> ok
[00:14] <jdahm> erUSUL: address?
[00:14] <cepfpg264> hi
[00:14] <Penol> jdahm: it uses some time.
[00:14] <olhado> ok
[00:14] <gogeta> Flynsarmy: i think the sound theme changed
[00:14] <pooky1> Tetracomm try type in ur DNS (192.168.0.x) in web browser
[00:14] <zealiod> how can i i have 3 vlans configured on my ubuntu server - is it possible to get dhcp3 to issue ip addresses to all agents connecting on those vlans? efforts so far, seem no
[00:14] <olhado> what's ndiswrapper?
[00:14] <llua> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1304744
[00:14] <llua> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1304744
[00:14] <llua> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1304744
[00:14] <bruno123> Ramunas NoelJB Im talking about a program that shows a globe and north america and how you connect to a server etc
[00:14] <FloodBot1> llua: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:14] <oldjingleballics> Tetracomm, same as in Windows... Use Firefox
[00:14] <Flynsarmy> gogeta, Nah, it's a wav issue i have. i copied the sound from my xp machine onto ubuntu. first time i play it in the default media player it stuffs up too. seems to work fine for the most part after that
[00:14] <bigfootbuilt> Tetracomm: It could also be 182.168.1.1
[00:14] <tanath> anyone having issues with compiz blacking out the desktop?
[00:14] <gogeta> Flynsarmy: both the im clents in 9.10 use the same sound theme
[00:14] <erUSUL> jdahm: google ;) → pgpkeys.mit.edu
[00:15] <bigfootbuilt> 192.168.1.1 i mean
[00:15] <Chronon> Any ideas about non-booting 64-bit-desktop LiveCD?
[00:15] <cepfpg264> please does somebody know how to configure samba in ubuntu 9.10
[00:15] <daleharvey> this just sucks
[00:15] <cepfpg264> please...
[00:15] <coordinador> dksoba88, i just did a quick search in google and found that youtube vid with my case, is the same videocard if should be important...
[00:15] <RenatoSilva> epiphany is not in ubuntu karmic ?????
[00:15] <pooky1> cepfpg264 i wish.... gimme some feedback if u get...
[00:15] <tanath> Tetracomm, it depends on the router
[00:15] <erUSUL> !find epiphany
[00:15] <Tetracomm> Ok.
[00:15] <NoelJB> bruno123, Oh!  Not a clue.  Something could building on geoip, I suppose.
[00:15] <Alan> Well this is interesting...
[00:15] <oldjingleballics> Tetracomm, use ifconfig to find the gateway ip #
[00:15] <Tetracomm> It is asking for a password.
[00:15] <Tetracomm> Thank you.
[00:15] <lstarnes> !info epiphany karmic | RenatoSilva
[00:15] <Alan> no icons for System menus....
[00:16] <tanath> Tetracomm, consult manual?
[00:16] <lstarnes> Tetracomm: or use route -n
[00:16] <Tetracomm> I will get that password.
[00:16] <RenatoSilva> lstarnes: bot failed
[00:16] <NoelJB> bruno123, so you want the same output but in a pretty map view instead of raw text?
[00:16] <pooky1> Tetracomm : try admin with no pasword if it is a D-link
[00:16] <lstarnes> RenatoSilva: no
[00:16] <Malignus> Anyone else use Xchat-Gnome?
[00:16] <RenatoSilva> lstarnes: no
[00:16] <lstarnes> RenatoSilva: it just responded
[00:16] <hinchy> my ubuntu install hangs after printing "[    1.864764]  [<c0104007>] kernet
[00:16] <hinchy> _
[00:16] <hinchy> oops
[00:16] <tanath> compiz is blacking out my desktop. anyone know how to fix?
[00:16] <Tetracomm> Linksys.
[00:16] <NoelJB> cepfpg264, client or server?  client should JUST WORK (tm).
[00:16] <lstarnes> Malignus: the regular version of xchat is preferred over xchat-gnome
[00:16] <RenatoSilva> lstarnes: so the diff is that now it is optional not default?
[00:16] <cepfpg264> client please
[00:17] <foxray> hi having an issue with karmic UNR on my dell mini 9, I installed it, but no ethernet shows up
[00:17] <pooky1> Tetracomm oki, try default as a password and username....
[00:17] <Malignus> So I've noticed, but I wanted to give it a shot.
[00:17] <cepfpg264> I mean server
[00:17] <daleharvey> can I just set all packages to reinstall?
[00:17] <hinchy> my ubuntu install hangs after printing "[    1.864764]  [<c0104007>] kernel_thread_helper+0x7/0x10"
[00:17] <lstarnes> RenatoSilva: it's never been installed by default afaik
[00:17] <Malignus> I was just trying to get a list of online persons to populate.
[00:17] <gogeta> Tetracomm: look for linksys defult password if you have chnage and forgot it you can set it back to defult by holding the reset buttion for like a minut
[00:17] <NoelJB> Malignus, I am using xchat (GTK).  The gnome version pretty much sucked last time I looked.
[00:17] <RenatoSilva> lstarnes: hum crappy update process then
[00:17] <dioz_mio> how can i make it so that ubuntu wont ask me sudo password everytime??
[00:17] <cepfpg264> the problem isI'm trying to conect a windows machine to my network
[00:17] <RenatoSilva> lstarnes: should suggest me a clean install
[00:17] <erUSUL> hinchy: eso es un oops. looks like the karmic kernel does not like your machine
[00:17] <RenatoSilva> lstarnes: didn't installed epiphany ever
[00:17] <hinchy> bummer
[00:17] <fxhp> Tetracomm: default password is admin, user is blank
[00:17] <netbook> How can I copy many directory using "cp" but exluding one or two files/directories.
[00:17] <Malignus> Thanks, NoelJB.  :)
[00:18] <erUSUL> hinchy: that is an linux kernel oops. looks like the karmic kernel does not like your machine
[00:18] <lstarnes> RenatoSilva: what about the epiphany-browser package?
[00:18] <michaelpalone> foxray: You have no connections at all? have you tried wired?
[00:18] <cepfpg264> but I can see it, but from windows I cannot see ubuntu
[00:18] <Bwyard> how do i mount a harddrive partition
[00:18] <NoelJB> cepfpg264, I've not had to do anything to make SAMBA client work on Ubuntu in ... well, ages.  It just works, and I use it often.
[00:18] <foxray> michaelpalone, its like it doesn't even see the wireless at all
[00:18] <erUSUL> !mount | Bwyard
[00:18] <RenatoSilva> lstarnes: should be default in 2 or 3 releases ago, then changed to FF and epiphany wasn't suggested for removing
[00:18] <skorpion> Hi
[00:18] <fxhp> cepfpg264: windows is not very friendly to ext files systems
[00:18] <RenatoSilva> lstarnes: what about epiphany-package?
[00:18] <coordinador> WOW NOW i have a very weird problem, in the middle of a session the filesystem converts to readonly :S:S:S:S
[00:18] <hinchy> erUSUL: does that mean I'm out of luck with ubuntu?
[00:18] <NoelJB> cepfpg264, ah, well if you can't see Ubuntu from MS-Windows, that would be needing to configure SAMBA as a server.
[00:18] <RenatoSilva> lstarnes: what about the epiphany-browser package?
[00:19] <Yos> This is strange...I'm halfway connected to the internet :(
[00:19] <Chronon> Neither 64-bit Ubuntu nor 64-bit Kubuntu LiveCD will boot on my machine -- Dell XPS 630i with Q6600 (Core 2 quad).  Any ideas?
[00:19] <foxray> michaelpalone, the wireless controller is supposed to show up as a proprietary driver, karmic doesn't even recognize it
[00:19] <sirjoebob> Anyone notice issues with karmic as far as using tab in terminal? ie apt-get ins(press tab) does not want to complete the line ???
[00:19] <cepfpg264> exactly
[00:19] <lstarnes> RenatoSilva: I forge
[00:19] <lstarnes> *forget
[00:19] <erUSUL> hinchy: really dunno; maybe some bios setting help. or a boot option to the kernel.-
[00:19] <erUSUL> !boot | hinchy
[00:19] <cepfpg264> But I dont know how configure it
[00:19] <RenatoSilva> who was talking to me about aMSN fudgin XChat?
[00:19] <S_SubZero> Chronon: Do When you say they won't boot, they are apparently doing something else.  What are they doing?
[00:19] <RenatoSilva> lstarnes: forget what
[00:19] <cepfpg264> I'm knew on ubuntu
[00:19] <cepfpg264> I mean new
[00:19] <lstarnes> RenatoSilva: never mind
[00:20] <RenatoSilva> lstarnes: ok
[00:20] <Tetracomm> Thanks, it works.
[00:20] <NoelJB> cepfpg264, there are a lot of tutorials for it.  I've got a configuration at home for my server, but am not in a position to grab and paste a sanitized version right now/
[00:20] <lstarnes> RenatoSilva: I can't think today
[00:20] <erUSUL> coordinador: remount read only == hard drive/filesystem serious error
[00:20] <gogeta> sirjoebob: its nevere tabbed install style works on remove thow
[00:20] <RenatoSilva> lstarnes: good to know that update process doesn't uninstall unused apps
[00:20] <Chronon> S_SubZero: Thanks.  It takes me to a black screen with blinking cursor in upper left hand corner.  Boot from first hard drive works correctly
[00:20] <lonchiton> ubuntu 9.04 i have a black screen anyone have an idea to solve my problem
[00:20] <RenatoSilva> lstarnes: it makes me think about reinstallking ubuntu completely
[00:20] <NoelJB> cepfpg264, try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba
[00:20] <lstarnes> RenatoSilva: there's really no way for it to easily know what is and is not used
[00:20] <sirjoebob> gogeta, my point is it isn't completing items correctly when pressing tab in terminal. Is this a common issue or something I have messed up or something?
[00:20] <coordinador> erUSUL, but, this happen in the middle of the session, and my drive is a SDHC
[00:20] <cepfpg264> look could somebody send to my e-mail the right configuration???
[00:21] <lstarnes> RenatoSilva: just remove the unwanted packages
[00:21] <localnnuser__>  i need to do something i dont know how to start... i need to put windows installer and kubuntu installer on the same pendrive... how can i do this?
[00:21] <RenatoSilva> lstarnes: which makes me lazy, because I have some customizations to make it actually pretty to me, like in here: http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/981/nicel.png
[00:21] <pooky1> RenatoSilva thats what i do each time it is a x.10 or so
[00:21] <S_SubZero> Chronon: sounds kinda "I can't figure out the MBR"ish.  The LiveCD simply won't start?
[00:21] <fxhp> lstarnes: RenatoSilva: Janitor?
[00:21] <coordinador> bought yesterday and the system was installed today
[00:21] <RenatoSilva> lstarnes: what packages? I don't even know how many ubuntu is leaving here
[00:21] <lippij> hey
[00:21] <lippij> does anyone know why GDM/gnome would freeze after i log in?
[00:22] <RenatoSilva> pooky1: but I'm lazy :( my ubuntu is beautiful http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/981/nicel.png
[00:22] <lippij> and just show a black screen with a cursor?
[00:22] <lstarnes> RenatoSilva: you can find all installed packages with dpkg -l
[00:22] <lippij> i made another user account and it works
[00:22] <daleharvey> lippij: seems to be happening with quite a lot of people
[00:22] <cepfpg264> let me try with that, but I've seen a lot of tutorials
[00:22] <gOLDfeesh> I get the following issue everytime I update or install something /sbin/ldconfig.real: libraries libtiff.so.4 and libtiff.so.3 in directory /usr/lib have same soname but different type.
[00:22] <pooky1> yeah i understand that
[00:22] <lippij> hm
[00:22] <Chronon> S_SubZero: It gets as far as accepting my language selection and showing the menu.  The only menu item that works properly is "boot from first hard drive".  Boot LiveCD, Check Disk for Errors, Install, etc. all fail
[00:22] <lippij> thanks dale
[00:22] <daleharvey> but I havent got any advice about it
[00:22] <lippij> ok
[00:22] <lippij> well you can pass on that if you useradd another account, it works
[00:22] <pooky1> RenatoSilva : how did u do transparency ???
[00:22] <jhass840> On Ubuntu 9.10 64-bit, I am getting a Network Error when I try to sign on to AIM using empathy's AIM protocol, does anyone know how to fix this?
[00:22] <lippij> temporarily
[00:23] <mandrew> någon svensk här?
[00:23] <Diddleha> Tja
[00:23] <pooky1> RenatoSilva : for taskbar and windows ?
[00:23] <cepfpg264> look, please somebody send me the right conf. my email is cepfpg264@hotmail.com
[00:23] <RenatoSilva> lstarnes: ubuntu updater should say "hey epiphany is not installed by default in this new version, it was replaced by a better browser FF, which will be installed anyway. Would you like to remove Epiphany". IT SHOULD DO THIS for all apps, the same for fudgin / emphaty
[00:23] <daleharvey> lippij: mines happening often before / just after grub
[00:23] <mandrew> tjabab
[00:23] <cepfpg264> be mercy... jajaja
[00:23] <oldjingleballics> anybody use wine-doors on 9.10?
[00:23] <MenZa> !anybody | oldjingleballics
[00:23] <Diddleha> mandrew: Läget ?
[00:23] <lstarnes> RenatoSilva: submit a feature request please
[00:23] <S_SubZero> Chronon: hmm.. so the LiveCD kinda starts but then hangs while going to the actual Live OS.  Sounds like it doesn't like some component.
[00:23] <RenatoSilva> pooky1: in the properties, right click it
[00:23] <mandrew> kan du ngt om iphonen
[00:23] <jhass840> I have already triple checked my password and it's not that
[00:23] <NoelJB> cepfpg264, there is no right config for your config that someone could send you/
[00:23] <mandrew> d e lugnt själv?
[00:23] <daleharvey> its happening during install as well
[00:23] <Sorinello> hello. I installed latest ubuntu on a virtual machine. after installing guest operating system package, i get the login screen at a much higher resolution. can someone help me fix that ?
[00:23] <RenatoSilva> lstarnes: you're from cannonical?
[00:23] <Diddleha> mandrew: Fint det.
[00:23] <RenatoSilva> s/nn/n
[00:24] <mneptok> !se | mandrew
[00:24] <lstarnes> RenatoSilva: no
[00:24] <MenZa> mandrew: For support på svensk kan du bruge #ubuntu-se her er der kun engelsksproget support.
[00:24] <NoelJB> cepfpg264, there are pretty simple general things, and I already gave you the URL, but you need to tune (for example, WHAT are you sharing and to WHOM)?
[00:24] <lstarnes> RenatoSilva: but there is http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/
[00:24] <cepfpg264> ok I got it
[00:24] <RenatoSilva> lstarnes: an ubuntu developer then? you just talked like one :)
[00:24] <tanath> compiz is blacking out my desktop, and not displaying icons. anyone know how to fix?
[00:24] <jdahm> anyone else here use pulseaudio and MPD?  I'm getting an error with MPD "Failed to open ALSA device...."
[00:24] <Chronon> S_SubZero: Yeah.  I verified md5sums and also the burn checked out okay.  I was hoping to switch to 64-bit on this cycle, but I guess I'll stick with upgrading to the 32-bit version for now.
[00:24] <daleharvey> S_SubZero: yup, again, same here
[00:24] <erUSUL> jdahm: configure mdp tu use pulseaudio
[00:24] <RenatoSilva> lstarnes: I think brainstorms conflicts with LP's blueprints and bug tracker
[00:24] <NoelJB> Sorinello, there is a config file for gdm where you can run xrandr.  I've had to do that in some cases.
[00:24] <lstarnes> RenatoSilva: if you have an idea for a new feature for ubuntu, you can submit it to that site that I just listed
[00:24] <cepfpg264> simple, I wanna share a simple folde and my printer
[00:25] <RenatoSilva> lstarnes: * brainstorm
[00:25] <dksoba88> I have 3 partitions, if I have ubuntu 9.04 on one, and windows vista on another, I should be okay to install ubuntu 9.10 on the third, right? They're all big enough. Oh yea, there's a 4th partition for swap too
[00:25] <lstarnes> RenatoSilva: it is used in conjunction
[00:25] <xendon> hello plp, i've upgreaded to 9.10 now my HDD's are showing 2 times into nautilus ... hey are mounted by my /etc/fstab the other HDD's are unmount because they are all ready mounted by fstab .. .. any idea ?
[00:25] <MK13> ok, so i just moved my /home to a new partition everthing seems to be working but when i ran "chown -R usrname:usrname /home/usrname" the only error it spits out is "/home/usrname/.gvfs': Permission denied"
[00:25] <seme> hi guys
[00:25] <not_recognized> i am new to ubuntu and have a wireless g usb adapter TP-LINK Model: TL-WN422G  (Ver 2.1). the adapter is not recognized. if i do iwconfig my adapter is NOT listed. please, help!
[00:25] <seme> :)
[00:25] <not_recognized> i am running ubuntu 9.04
[00:25] <seme> ubuntu 9.10 rocks
[00:25] <not_recognized> http://pastebin.ca/1648501
[00:25] <seme> :)
[00:25] <cepfpg264> and I wanna  share them to my partner
[00:25] <FloodBot1> seme: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:25] <RenatoSilva> lstarnes: I've found that site today, but I still think it conficts with LP
[00:25] <RenatoSilva> lstarnes: I'd report a bug in LP
[00:25] <seme> any way to make the downloads of the software faster
[00:25] <seme> for some reason it is taking forever
[00:25] <dksoba88> anyone want to comment on their favorite new feature of 9.10 Karmic Koala?
[00:25] <Chronon> seme: Use bittorrent.  It's much faster
[00:26] <Emery> How would i start etoile via xinit ?
[00:26] <MenZa> dksoba88: Not in here.
[00:26] <RenatoSilva> lstarnes: I had the same feeling I have when I see ctrl+c/v'd code
[00:26] <MenZa> dksoba88: Try #ubuntu-release-party
[00:26] <mickster04> can i ask about a bug in karmic here?
[00:26] <dksoba88> MenZa: Cool. Sorry, didn't know. What's this channel primarily for?
[00:26] <mickster04> seeing as its released?
[00:26] <tanath> dksoba88, lack of desktop </sarcasm>
[00:26] <MenZa> dksoba88: It is exclusively for support - and with the release of 9.10, it's even busier than normal :)
[00:26] <pooky1> Chronon: x2, took me less than 10 mins at ~700kbps
[00:26] <judson_> my   ubuntu    upgrade is froze  whats wrong its stuck on    downloadin  file  279   :(
[00:26] <gOLDfeesh> I fixed the ld issue
[00:27] <mandrew> well thanks for thelp ;)
[00:27] <aboucher95> how do you fix a corrupt install of updates. my computer froze while i tried to install updates and had to force reboot my computer. now i cannot try to reinstall them, how do i fix this
[00:27] <dksoba88> MenZa: Thanks. Good to know
[00:27] <Diddleha> dksoba88: Do you like the new 9.10 ?
[00:27] <Daimonic> RxDx: I found somehow the error, most of the commands I wrote to rc.local don't work if I enter them into the shell: Permission denied (with sudo(!)) I need to switch to root with -i, then it works, is there a way to use root for rc.local ?
[00:27] <MenZa> dksoba88: Not a problem :)
[00:27] <Emery> How would i start etoile via xinit ?
[00:27] <seme> no not the iso
[00:27] <RxDx> Diddleha, what?
[00:27] <RenatoSilva> who I was talking to about aMSN pidgin???????
[00:27] <seme> downloading apps after you have installed ubuntu
[00:27] <dksoba88> Diddleha, still installing
[00:27] <seme> it is dirt slow
[00:27] <MenZa> RenatoSilva: Me.
[00:27] <NoelJB> cepfpg264, have you tried right clicking on the foldering and selecting Sharing Options?
[00:28] <cepfpg264> already done
[00:28] <Mike_lifeguard> How can I eject a CD from CLI?
[00:28] <cepfpg264> and nothing happens
[00:28] <lstarnes> Mike_lifeguard: eject /dev/cdrom
[00:28] <Lars_G> Hi all.
[00:28] <RenatoSilva> pooky1: I'd like to record a video of my PC, specially the 3d effects, but I don't know how
[00:28] <tanath> Mike_LaMar, 'eject -t'
[00:28] <NoelJB> cepfpg264, OK.
[00:28] <Diddleha> dksoba88: I was going to, but im listening to Jamendo via rhythmbox and didnt want to break the partymode :)
[00:28] <conb123> tanath: damn no luck just keep getting a meesage saying failed to boot press any key to restart
[00:28] <RenatoSilva> MenZa: hi, sorry this channel is so busy
[00:28] <Lars_G> FAQ, is there an easy way to go build->final on karmik?
[00:28] <Gaming4JC> hey all, just installed 9.10 but it's not detecting my webcam. Any suggestions? (I've tested Cheese, CamStream, and some others, no luck says device not found)
[00:29] <MK13> should "/home/usrname/.gvfs': Permission denied" be a concern when trying to get permissions back?
[00:29] <raik> how to upgrade from alternate cd ?
[00:29] <lstarnes> Lars_G: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade (the normal package update routine)
[00:29] <RenatoSilva> MenZa: http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/981/nicel.png ---> pidgin sucks, but this is prettier than XChat imo
[00:29] <Flynsarmy> The sounds either plays correctly or doesnt play in pidgin if the messages are close enough together...if theyre too far apart the sound gets screwed up. anyone else experiencing this in karmic?
[00:29] <jrib> MK13: "trying to get permissions back"?
[00:29] <dksoba88> Diddleha, I see. Well...in the eventual future I take it?
[00:29] <Gaming4JC> fyi: it's for a clients computer not my own so I was kinda hoping to resolve it soon. :D
[00:29] <tanath> Mike_lifeguard, 'eject -t' or 'eject -h' for options
[00:29] <jdahm> erUSUL: I still get the error http://papernapkin.org/pastebin/view/6600/
[00:29] <Lars_G> lstarnes: changing repos? I guess
[00:29] <pooky1> RenatoSilva: i think ive seen a software.... like go see on youtube the guys that make videos in linux... kind of recording device that record part or all ur desktop...
[00:29] <daleharvey> ok, ive managed to boot 2 times in a row now, thats a record
[00:29] <Diddleha> dksoba88: Absolutely!
[00:29] <lstarnes> Lars_G: you don't change repos
[00:29] <tanath> conb123, did you use the usb creator? i find that to be the one that worked for me
[00:29] <oren_> hi
[00:29] <rance> hey
[00:29] <RenatoSilva> pooky1: lazyyyy
[00:29] <Lars_G> lstarnes: Ah they're the same repos using during beta/alpha? thanks
[00:29] <lstarnes> Lars_G: the repos that were used for pre-release builds of karmic are the same as the release ones
[00:29] <conb123> tantath: Yup
[00:30] <MK13> jrib, i just moved my /home to a seperate partition
[00:30] <judson_> is it   normal  for the  karmic install to get  stuck on    file 279  ?
[00:30] <Diddleha> dksoba88: Im thinking tomorrow even ;)
[00:30] <pooky1>  RenatoSilva: ill look at it
[00:30] <jrib> MK13: ok?
[00:30] <aziz> how do I print the full command (including args) of a process?
[00:30] <RenatoSilva> pooky1: no need
[00:30] <diofeher> huhu, i will install ubuntu now
[00:30] <llua> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1304744
[00:30] <diofeher> \o/
[00:30] <MK13> jrib, not to mention i can't even see the file when browsing in nautilus
[00:30] <pooky1>  RenatoSilva: as you wish :p
[00:30] <mickster04> if anyone can help me, i always get battery problems with karmic UNR it reports the wrong time left or the battery is broken:/
[00:30] <RenatoSilva> pooky1: don't want to disturb
[00:30] <tanath> conb123, what iso did you use? sure the iso is good?
[00:30] <jrib> MK13: the short answer is yes it is normal as .gvfs is special somehow, but I was trying to understand why you were in that mess anyway
[00:30] <Sorinello> NoelJB: that only fixes the resolution after logging it. my problem is before logging
[00:31]  * Gaming4JC ponders his borked webcam issue...
[00:31] <daleharvey> can I "refresh" the kernel install?
[00:31] <pooky1>  RenatoSilva: not really disturbing... im still figure out how i can manually compare the hashes of my ISO
[00:31] <KurtKraut> I've noticed that on Karmic, notify-osd is showing alerts in a much lower position. This is quit anoying. Is this normal? Here is a sample: http://www.kurtkraut.net/images/isitnormal.gif
[00:31] <RenatoSilva> pooky1: found the transparency option?
[00:31] <tanath> daleharvey, reinstall it?
[00:31] <jrib> daleharvey: can you define "refresh"?
[00:31] <pooky1> i got the original from the website... but transmission dont gimme something good
[00:31] <Lars_G> lstarnes: None updated, so I guess I'm already on final.
[00:31] <Lars_G> meh
[00:31] <sweetandy> daleharvey: You could always compile your own kernel
[00:31] <erUSUL> jdahm: sorry dunno what that means...
[00:31] <conb123> tanath: Only just got it from the karmic torrent today, i think i may have found the soltuion though someone on forums is mentioning issues with my particular stick when booting
[00:31] <Lars_G> Of course I need to report carrying bugs
[00:31] <NoelJB> Sorinello, no, there is a file that is used to establish the login screen.
[00:31] <Lars_G> :)
[00:31] <pooky1>  RenatoSilva: yeah but doesnt really work too good... the icons stay on black background... maybe its my theme...
[00:31] <tanath> conb123, ah
[00:31] <Alan> Does anybody know how ubuntu disambiguates between multiple sources for the same package, i.e. which one to use?  I have a local mirror, and i'm wondering if i NEED to put my local deb lines at the beginning, or if i can instead put them in sources.list.d/local.list ...
[00:31] <MK13> jrib, i just moved my /home to a different partition then i installed 9.10 and mounted the specified the new /home to mount during setup
[00:32] <RenatoSilva> pooky1: check hash of a downloaded file? SOme day I'll find out too
[00:32] <tony> anyone having problems with flash with 64 bit version?
[00:32] <lstarnes> Lars_G: check lsb_release -a
[00:32] <tanath> Alan, tends to prever highest version
[00:32] <arand> tony: what kinds?
[00:32] <jrib> MK13: I don't see why you would have permissions issues though
[00:32] <daleharvey> jrib: something has very obviously gone wrong during the install, my karmic is freezing constantly, I have no way to reinstall it, but I can get an occasional boot working
[00:32] <RenatoSilva> pooky1: it seems your theme, it looks nice here
[00:32] <dksoba88> Diddleha, will you do an upgrade or just reinstall?
[00:32] <sweetandy> Alan: apt's -t option... check out backports
[00:32] <e2> tony, yes
[00:32] <tanath> Alan, you can select a package in synaptic and press ctrl+e to choose a version
[00:32] <pooky1>  RenatoSilva: lol.... if i dont find it soon im gonna f*** off and burn it anyway
[00:32] <Emery> How would i start etoile via xinit ?
[00:32] <tony> can you describe your e2?
[00:32] <daleharvey> so I am trying to think of random ways to recover the broken install
[00:33] <e2> arand, http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8326264.stm
[00:33] <NoelJB> Sorinello, Sorry, not gdm, XDM.  :-)
[00:33] <Pelo> evening folks,
[00:33] <MK13> jrib, me either, which is why i am asking
[00:33] <e2> tony http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8326264.stm
[00:33] <Gaming4JC> Ah another question... do 9.04 debs work on 9.10? When I upgraded it kept the 9.04 WINE install? o.O
[00:33] <jrib> daleharvey: if you believe the install did not complete successfully then do a fresh install
[00:33] <NoelJB> Sorinello, /etc/xdm/Xsetup
[00:33] <Diddleha> dksoba88: I have upgraded for some versions now, thought id just continue doing that :)
[00:33] <Alan> tanath: i'm on about the same version
[00:33] <jrib> MK13: You asked a different question...
[00:33] <tanath> daleharvey, delay, and keep updating? tends to work for me :P
[00:33] <daleharvey> jrib: I cant do a fresh install, because it never works
[00:33] <Alan> tanath: hence the "mirror"
[00:33] <jrib> MK13: presumably you are attempting to change permissions
[00:33] <arand> e2: what does that have to do with flash issues?
[00:33] <NoelJB> Sorinello, ok, that's not there on karmic ... I'd have to look.
[00:33] <jMCg> Hello happy people.
[00:34] <redtime> how can i downgrade ubuntu karmic to jaunty?
[00:34] <lstarnes> redtime: you can't
[00:34] <erUSUL> !downgrade | redtime
[00:34] <jrib> daleharvey: well I would debug *that*
[00:34] <jMCg> Could someone pastebin me an ldd of /usr/bin/ldapsearch ?
[00:34] <Pelo> there is a feature of Nautilus that I see while upgrading but I can'T figure out how to do it when the install is over , lavender colour text below icons in the nautilus window in icon mode,  size of file and number of files in a folder , anyone know how to turn that on ?
[00:34] <RenatoSilva> MenZa: http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/5646/wowvm.png
[00:34] <RenatoSilva> pooky1: http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/5646/wowvm.png
[00:34] <NoelJB> Sorinello, which VM ?  VMware or VB?
[00:34] <choronzon> !upgrade
[00:34] <redtime> lstarnes: oh :(
[00:34] <RenatoSilva> lstarnes: http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/5646/wowvm.png
[00:34] <Sorinello> VMWare
[00:34] <mickster04> daleharvey,  have u tried running without changing then installing from there
[00:34] <tanath> Alan, but it may not use exactly the same version name. try ctrl+e anyway
[00:34] <Sorinello> NoelJB: VMWare
[00:34] <lstarnes> RenatoSilva: you can highlight multiple people on one message
[00:34] <Ergo^> is #ubuntu-server open now ?
[00:34] <MK13> jrib, do the permissions not need to be changed? i am just following these instructions
[00:34] <e2> arand plays fine in 32bit with mediabuntu,,, not with 64bit
[00:34] <MK13> !home
[00:34] <redtime> lstarnes: my bcm4312 is not working on karmic :(
[00:34] <RenatoSilva> lstarnes: isn't it client stuff?
[00:35] <caleb_> I don't seem to have an driver for my ati card anymore. As I understand, my card is not supported by ATI anymore, but on jaunty, compiz fusion worked fine. Can anyone point me to how I can install this on Karmic?
[00:35] <Alan> tanath: it will - my question is, given 2 servers with the exact same package, version, etc., will it prefer my local mirror over the remote mirror?
[00:35] <Lars_G> lstarnes: 9.10, codename karmic, no lsb modules available
[00:35] <daleharvey> jrib: I get exactly the same problems with installing from a cd / external drive / usb, the install freezes at some arbitrary point in time
[00:35] <aresnick> Hi!  I'm looking to expand my /usr partition--I have a GParted LiveCD, but I was wondering: under what conditions do I lose data?  Can I move partitions around?  Or only expand them?  (I'd like to expand several, and assuming they're contiguous, I would guess that means I need to move several to make room)
[00:35] <lstarnes> RenatoSilva: yes, but most clients can see someone's nick in places other than at the beginning
[00:35] <daleharvey> the cd usually very early
[00:35] <e2> arand, sorry... i know tony btw...was the question he was asking
[00:35] <Alan> so far, if i put the deb lines for the local mirror at the beginning, it will
[00:35] <Diddleha> dksoba88: Let me know how it works when done.
[00:35] <jrib> MK13: I don't see anything there about changing permissions unless something goes wrong
[00:35] <Alan> sweetandy: hmm?
[00:35] <Sorinello> NoelJB: but I don;t think that's relevant what VM I am using ...
[00:35] <jrib> daleharvey: did you run "check the cd for defects"?
[00:35] <tanath> Alan, that i don't know
[00:36] <redtime> hm :(
[00:36] <RenatoSilva> lstarnes: ok
[00:36] <e2> arand, you are running 64bit?
[00:36] <tanath> Alan, probably whichever is highest in the list of alternates you see when you press ctrl+e
[00:36] <MK13> jrib, it did go wrong, after installing ubuntu all my files in my /home/usrname directory had locks on them
[00:36] <llua> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1304744
[00:36] <nick_h> i've been trying to configure the external monitor that's attached to my laptop, but haven't had any luck other than cloning the screen. however, after i ran xrandr, the external monitor extends the desktop, and this persists between reboots.
[00:36] <daleharvey> jrib: the iso md5'd correctly, anything attempting to check the disk dies
[00:36] <madsen> so hows the new ubuntu ?
[00:36] <nick_h> this is great, but i haven't a clue why it works. any hints?
[00:36] <daleharvey> and there is no way all 3 mediums are broken
[00:36] <Alan> tanath: and what if i'm not using synaptic?
[00:36] <jrib> madsen: that shouldn't happen, no
[00:36] <jrib> argh
[00:36] <xtsuname> does anyone know the version of mplayer in ubuntu 9.10?
[00:37] <lstarnes> !info mplayer karmic | xtsuname
[00:37] <Alan> I tend to use aptitude...
[00:37] <jrib> MK13: that shouldn't happen, no
[00:37] <daleharvey> the cd very possibly, but not the external disk drive
[00:37] <Pelo> aresnick, you can do pretty much anything you want but if you move the partition you will have to edit the fstab file to point to the new partition
[00:37] <tanath> Alan, i'm suggesting you use it to answer your question
[00:37] <plitter> does anyone know how to get the shutdown button all the way to the right?
[00:37] <MK13> jrib, what shouldn't happen?
[00:37] <dksoba88> Diddleha, yea np
[00:37] <RenatoSilva> lstarnes: hey, I jsut got a list of unsupported packages at least, which includes epiphany and pidgin, they will be suggested for removing after the upgrade process if I don't check universe repo. Better than nothing
[00:37] <pooky1> RenatoSilva: thats nice FX, but beside being eyecandy... or use as alt-tab or screensaver i dont see why sorking on a cube, if it doesnt stay as a cube...
[00:37] <jrib> MK13: locks
[00:37] <mickster04> anyone having battery problems
[00:37] <VCoolio> in karmic, screen in terminal has changed? I have to press enter to pass a messages screen and there is no menu, function keys don't work; what's the new deal?
[00:37] <xtsuname> thx lstarnes
[00:37] <pooky1> but i tried from inside and it was funny !
[00:37] <Pelo> plitter, right click > move
[00:37] <RenatoSilva> pooky1: FX?
[00:37] <MK13> jrib, well it did...
[00:37] <pooky1> RenatoSilva: effetcs*
[00:37] <daleharvey> mickster04: thats basically what I want, a 'fresh' install over this one
[00:37] <Lars_G> mickster04: yeah, my neighbors complain when I play the battery
[00:37] <jrib> MK13: anyway, what exactly have you run since then regarding permissions?
[00:37] <lstarnes> RenatoSilva: I think pidgin is still in main
[00:37] <aresnick> Pelo: I just mean something like "move to the 'right' to make room"--I assume the partition would remain the same, no?
[00:37] <tanath> Alan, if all you have is CLI, then try 'apt-cash show packagename' and it'll prolly pick the first one listed
[00:37] <plitter> Pelo: i only get remove and about
[00:38]  * raid0 goodnight all
[00:38] <RenatoSilva> pooky1: doesn't stay as a cube?
[00:38] <arand> Pelo: icon view, increase zoom
[00:38] <arand> Or go to nautilus preferences, display, icon captions, an move the captions up one step (means they'll appear on lower zoom)
[00:38] <trism> VCoolio: that functionality was in screen-profiles which doesn't seem to be install with screen anymore
[00:38] <tanath> Alan, sorry, 'apt-cache...'
[00:38] <Lars_G> I guess this room is right for the transition phase, but should people go to #ubuntu now that it's offitial?
[00:38] <MK13> jrib, terminal, nautilus, firefox
[00:38] <Starcraftmazter> I'm wondering, would hardware raid involve Ubuntu at all, or is it irrelevant to the OS?
[00:38] <Pelo> plitter, move the other stuff out of the way first
[00:38] <RenatoSilva> lstarnes: it is listed here
[00:38] <mickster04> Lars_G, ?
[00:38] <Yos> I have my internet up on ubuntu finally but it doesn't show on the network and I cannot browse...please help
[00:38] <Alan> tanath: that still doesn't help - it only shows the available repo sections, not available mirrors...
[00:38] <MK13> jrib so, should i be concerned about the .gvfs since everything else works fine?
[00:38] <jrib> MK13: you got an error before.  Did you not get it while running some command?
[00:38] <pooky1> RenatoSilva:  in gutsy it didnt.... well you couldnt type while viewing a cube...
[00:38] <RenatoSilva> lstarnes: hum no, just pidgin-otr
[00:38] <Pelo> plitter, check to see if you donT' have a locked check box
[00:38] <Lars_G> Starcraftmazter: The kernel would need to recognize the raid controller, but beyound that, it's transparent to ubuntu
[00:38] <VCoolio> trism: ah right, will install that, thx
[00:38] <sweetandy> Yos: wicd beats network-manager
[00:38] <pooky1> RenatoSilva: now 3d acceleration isnt supported on my laptop so having hard time playing around with compiz
[00:39] <mickster04> daleharvey, well if u run the live disk, then run the installer off that, it normally works fine
[00:39] <Starcraftmazter> Lars_G: would there be a list somewhere of supported controllers, or manufacturers that provide oss drivers?
[00:39] <Alan> tanath: i.e. jaunty-updates vs jaunty-security
[00:39] <RenatoSilva> pooky1: gutsy is OLD hehe
[00:39] <tanath> Alan, i have more than one package from different locations providing the package 'firefox' and when i run 'apt-cache show firefox' both are listed...
[00:39] <Lars_G> Starcraftmazter: for normal use that is. if you want to reconfigure, a very few raid controllers will have linux software, some a bios interface and some a windows only software
[00:39] <tony> plitter: right click and select move
[00:39] <ProfOak> Hey guys, how is ext4 files ystem as of now?
[00:39] <Pelo> aresnick, you'll need todo that from the live cd, but yo shoudlnT' lose anything
[00:39] <Yos> I tried network mananger, it doesn't list my ISP
[00:39] <arand> e2: I'm using the 64bit prerelease, and for issues with unstable flash on 64bit I was going to recommend it.
[00:39] <tanath> Alan, in that case, i know security takes priority
[00:39] <aresnick> Pelo: OK, and I won't need to edit fstab, right?
[00:39]  * Pelo never gets any helps
[00:39] <MK13> jrib, i got the error when running "chown -R usrname:usrname /home/usrname"
[00:39] <Lars_G> Starcraftmazter: I'd google for the model and linux
[00:40] <RenatoSilva> lstarnes: don't know what is pidgin-otr
[00:40] <Pelo> aresnick, if the uuid of the partition remains the same no
[00:40] <pooky1> RenatoSilva: thats the version that was released when i turned my back on windows... but hardy was already coming out the end of the month... and no more compiz for me =(
[00:40] <tanath> ProfOak, depends who you ask :P
[00:40] <Starcraftmazter> ok thanks Lars_G
[00:40] <Lars_G> ProfOak: so far so good
[00:40] <Pelo> aresnick, I'm assuming that /usr is already on a seperate partitons ?
[00:40] <aresnick> Pelo: yep
[00:40] <dooglus> !devede
[00:40] <lstarnes> RenatoSilva: it's a plugin for OTR in pidgin.  OTR is a chat encryption system
[00:40] <aresnick> Pelo: what would cause the uuid to change?
[00:40] <RenatoSilva> pooky1: sorry could you start again, I don't know what you mean
[00:40] <leaf__> hello
[00:40] <plitter> tony Pelo i get all amsn evolution, volume, ibus, network all the way to the right, and i dont know how to move them...
[00:40] <arand> Pelo: Or go to nautilus preferences, display, icon captions, an move the captions up one step (means they'll appear on lower zoom)
[00:40] <daleharvey> jrib: do you have any suggestions where to go from here? im guessing recovering a half working install might work
[00:40] <RenatoSilva> lstarnes: ok
[00:40] <ProfOak> Last release, it wasn't encouraged to use ext4.
[00:40] <jrib> MK13: so why didn't you tell me that when I asked?  Anyway, create a new user, check the permissions of .gvfs and make sure your user's permissions match
[00:40] <dooglus> is anyone familiar with 'devede'?  I asked it to make a 4.4GB iso for burning to a DVD from a .avi movie
[00:40] <pooky1> RenatoSilva: yeah i figured out for the MD5.... and after 2nd download its full
[00:41] <Pelo> aresnick, if the uuid stays the same there should not be any problem , I think you might end up , extending to the right and then in a second step resizing it from the left but whatever
[00:41] <dooglus> and it has made a 2GB .sio
[00:41] <dksoba88> Diddleha, installing from USB... very nice to not use CD's IMHO
[00:41] <dooglus> iso
[00:41] <jrib> daleharvey: have you tried the alternate install?
[00:41] <leaf__> any one knows what is the best firewall for ubuntu?
[00:41] <e2> arand, thats a worry... this link for example http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8326264.stm works fine in 32bit... not playing in 64bit with a new install etc..
[00:41] <MK13> jrib, i had all that in the earlier chat
[00:41] <RenatoSilva> lstarnes: I'll talke a look at emphaty's support for IRC, if it's ok then I'll remove fudgin
[00:41] <pooky1> <(* *)>
[00:41] <tanath> ProfOak, if you're concerned about data loss, you might wanna hold off a bit longer
[00:41] <Lars_G> dooglus: I know it's a spanish spelling for how dvd sounds
[00:41] <daleharvey> the image usb-creator made might be broken, but ive lost my ubuntu install now, can you make new images with osx?
[00:41] <dooglus> leaf__: iptables.  it's built into the kernel
[00:41] <Lars_G> dooglus: nothing else
[00:41] <MK13> jrib, and how do i do what you just said?
[00:41] <lstarnes> RenatoSilva: as far as irc support goes, xchat and irssi are the best
[00:41] <xrandr> ok, so i have the 9.10 beta installed. How do i switch from beta to release?
[00:41] <dooglus> Lars_G: thanks man.  you rock.
[00:41] <leaf__> dooglus how can i see/configure?
[00:41] <Lars_G> dooglus: :P
[00:41] <aresnick> Pelo: OK; thanks!
[00:41] <tanath> dooglus, it tends to use what it needs only
[00:41] <pooky1> !final xrandr
[00:42] <lstarnes> leaf__: there are frontends to iptables such as firestarter
[00:42] <pooky1> miss... =(
[00:42] <dksoba88> MenZa: Where can I ask questions about general things about Ubuntu... like the history or things like that?
[00:42] <Pelo> arand, thanks I'lll try that ,
[00:42] <mage__> how am i supposed to do cron jobs with upstart?
[00:42] <xrandr> !ubuntu
[00:42] <tanath> dooglus, i often find it smaller than estimated too
[00:42] <lstarnes> leaf__: there is also ufw and its graphical frontend, gufw
[00:42] <xrandr> !final
[00:42] <dooglus> tanath: ok, fair enough.  the picture quality is a bit crappy, but made the .avi was too
[00:42] <jrib> MK13: which step are you not sure how to do?
[00:42] <ProfOak> tanath: ok thanks, I'll just wait until it's the standard.
[00:42] <MidnightDevil> hi
[00:42] <Alan> tanath: that's still different repos, not mirrors of the same repo
[00:42] <arand> e2: Hmm, xrandr if you are fully upgraded, you are in final
[00:42] <FFEMTcJ> Is anyone having problems trying to get 9.10 to dual boot, with win7 installed first?
[00:42] <leaf__> lstarnes i can go by command line?
[00:42] <Pelo> plitter, the way to do it is with right click,  don'T know why you are not getting it
[00:42] <e2> arand, bound to be a simple explanation... not a huge issue.. and i can see there are lots more important issues at the moment... most youtubes/ flash working...
[00:42] <MK13> when you say compare the permissions
[00:42] <tanath> dooglus, well it can't make it magically better, so increasing size would do nothing without better source file, yes
[00:42] <FFEMTcJ> I have installed 9.10 twice and my system will still only boot into Windows
[00:42] <jrib> MK13: ls -ld PATH_TO_FILE
[00:42] <MidnightDevil> i need help with my network.. i just got karmic installed and i have a acer laptop.. but network isnt working at all. neither wired or wireless.. can someone help me out? it seems like is detected but disabled
[00:42] <MK13> jrib, when you say compare the permissions
[00:42] <tanath> ProfOak, as am i
[00:43] <lstarnes> leaf__: iptables is command-line (see man iptables)
[00:43] <dooglus> xrandr: just do an apt-get update && apt-get dist upgrade and you'll have the 'final' release
[00:43] <Sgeo> Will bad things happen if I install a package for 7.10 on a 7.04 system?
[00:43] <Alan> tanath: it doesn't disambiguate between "gb.archive.ubuntu.com jaunty main" and "helios jaunty main"
[00:43] <Alan> if you catch my drift
[00:43] <tanath> ProfOak, had FSes corrupt under ext4
[00:43] <lstarnes> Sgeo: probably
[00:43]  * RenatoSilva thanks all
[00:43] <Sgeo> Bleh
[00:43] <MK13> jrib, and just make a random username?
[00:43] <e2> arand, just installed clean from final....
[00:43] <xrandr> already up2date then
[00:43] <lstarnes> Sgeo: 7.10 and 7.04 are both out of date and unsupported
[00:43] <jrib> Sgeo: bad things will happen if you use 7.04 as it's unsupported anyway
[00:43] <MenZa> dksoba88: Try #ubuntu-offtopic.
[00:43] <jrib> MK13: sure
[00:43] <Sgeo> lstarnes, I'm too lazy to upgrade a system I rarely use anymore anyway
[00:43] <arand> e2: sorry, was talking to xrandr
[00:43] <dooglus> xrandr: that's what I did - installed the beta, and update/dist-upgrade day by day
[00:43] <Lars_G> Sgeo: it will probably fail to install for dependency failure, and then if you force it, it'll probably fail to run, which on the case of a library can cause lots of damage
[00:43] <tanath> Sgeo, potentially, but usually not
[00:43] <leaf__> lstarnes thanks pall
[00:43] <Pelo> arand, thanks it worked, I would have looked forever for that
[00:43] <e2> arand, np..
[00:44] <MidnightDevil> someone please?
[00:44] <MidnightDevil> i need help with my network.. i just got karmic installed and i have a acer laptop.. but network isnt working at all. neither wired or wireless.. can someone help me out? it seems like is detected but disabled
[00:44]  * Pelo is off 
[00:44] <Sgeo> Anyone know of any Dropbox like things that don't require installing stuff?
[00:44] <dooglus> MidnightDevil: wired should be easy enough.  did you try 'sudo ifup eth0'?
[00:44] <bigfootbuilt> Wasn't the 9.10 update supposed to include Firefox 3.5.4?
[00:44] <tanath> Alan, if you need it to use a specific one, why don't you make that happen?
[00:44] <plitter> Pelo: when i right click on the symbols all the way to the right i get their options not the gui options, i followed tony advice about unlocking from panel and it worked but i only get it as far as the programs that take up the space all the way to the right
[00:44] <MK13> jrib, any clue what the permissions should be, i don't want to have to create a new user
[00:44] <lstarnes> bigfootbuilt: it includes firefox 3.5
[00:44] <Lars_G> Sgeo: www.adrive.com works with std protocols like webdav and ftp
[00:44] <vladik> hey guys quick question
[00:44] <leaf__> Any one knows how to run everest poker well? ive tryed wine, cedega etc but i cant put that run...
[00:44] <Sgeo> Lars_G, ty
[00:44] <tanath> Alan, otherwise, the implication is that you don't care, and it shouldn't matter
[00:45] <arand> Sgeo: ubuntuone is installed by default in ubuntu...
[00:45] <jrib> MK13: no, I don't have an ubuntu system at hand.  This is how you can solve the problem yourself
[00:45] <vladik> Im in a middle of installing a package with apt-get
[00:45] <Sgeo> arand, in 7.04?
[00:45] <MidnightDevil> dooglus when i type ifconfig .. i got lo only detected with the address 127... will it work?
[00:45] <Alan> tanath: because i have things like laptops that are sometimes inside my network, sometimes outside
[00:45] <arand> Sgeo: ah, no.
[00:45] <leaf__> Any one knows how to run everest poker well? ive tryed wine, cedega etc but i cant put that run...
[00:45] <dooglus> MidnightDevil: you need more than just 'lo' to get online
[00:45] <mage__> us.archive.ubuntu.com is an alias for ftp.acc.umu.se.
[00:45] <leaf__> i love poker
[00:45] <MK13> jrib, well, this is what i get anyway :(   dr-x------ 2 usrname usrname 0 2009-10-29 19:16 /home/usrname/.gvfs
[00:45] <leaf__> :P
[00:45] <mage__> isn't .se a different country?
[00:45] <FFEMTcJ> Is anyone having problems trying to get 9.10 to dual boot, with win7 installed first?
[00:45] <Diddleha> dksoba88: Yeah, cd's are less smooth.
[00:45] <jrib> MK13: great, compare that to a fresh new user's
[00:45] <TecnoBrat> MidnightDevil: sounds to me like your network card drivers aren't being detected / installed
[00:45] <vladik> Im in a middle of installing a package with apt-get , I cannot proceed since I need a prior package installed and I get 'dpkg was interrupted' but 'configure' won't work since I cannot continue the configuration , what to do ?
[00:45] <Alan> I want them to have external and internal mirrors available, such that it uses the local one when inside the network,  but fails over to the external one when it can't reach the internal one
[00:45] <tony> leaf__: have you tried pokerTH?
[00:45] <MidnightDevil> dooglus i know... and that's the problem, i got wireless and ethernet detected on lspci.. but i got nothing on ifconfig or iwconfig
[00:45] <dooglus> MidnightDevil: I always end up uninstalling the network-manager package and configuring everything manually, but that's probably frowned upon
[00:46] <LjL> vladik: "configure"? what's "configure"?
[00:46] <tanath> Alan, you could comment out certain repo lines depending on context (where you are)
[00:46] <leaf__> tony i want to play for real money
[00:46] <MK13> jrib, do i need to run the command as the new user on it's own .gvfs?
[00:46] <TecnoBrat> vladik: doesn't it say something about running dpkg-reconfigure?
[00:46] <dksoba88> Diddleha, yea plus you have to buy it, use it once, and then it's a coaster
[00:46] <jrib> MK13: of course
[00:46] <mikechelen> anyone know why my system doesn't notice there is a distro upgrade?
[00:46] <TecnoBrat> vladik: normally dpkg-reconfigure *package_name* is what you want
[00:46] <Alan> tanath: i don't want to comment/uncomment 5 times a day....
[00:46] <tanath> Alan, and would it not just use whichever was available?
[00:46] <woddf2> Hello
[00:46] <tony> leaf__ ok, that won't work then
[00:46] <netbook> I need some SSH help, I upgraded to KK, copied over my sshd_config and iptable rules. Did iptables-restore and ./init.d/ssh restart and now I am getting "Read from socket failed: Connection reset by peer" HELP
[00:46] <Alan> tanath: but both are available when inside the network...
[00:46] <vladik> TecnoBrat , I cannot configure that package until I install another one , I cannot install that one cause it's stuck.
[00:46] <Lars_G> mikechelen: have you been using RC/Beta? it might be up to date already
[00:46] <Diddleha> dksoba88: Aha!... but "RW" is ok. Slow though.
[00:47] <RayC> hello...
[00:47] <mage__> Alan: abuse a hosts file then
[00:47] <tanath> Alan, heh, in that case, just update repos and it'll use whatever is available
[00:47] <MidnightDevil> dooglus i got a "ignoring unknow interface eth=eth. ... what can i do? :(
[00:47] <mikechelen> Lars_G, only jaunty-updates and -backports
[00:47] <tanath> Alan, then it shouldn't matter inside the network
[00:47] <leaf__> tony yeah right lool
[00:47] <TecnoBrat> vladik: ... dpkg-reconfigure *package_name* the BROKEN package, not the one you are trying to install.
[00:47] <LjL> vladik: have you tried "sudo apt-get -f install"
[00:47] <RayC> this is my first time here and.. hmm.. let me see if people have answer for my question.
[00:47] <tanath> Alan, outside the network, it'll use the only one available
[00:47] <Alan> tanath: yes it should - quick vs. slow
[00:47] <Bwyard> how do i unmount an extra partition mounted to /
[00:47] <MidnightDevil> dooglus the previous release was working fine.. do u think if i install the 9.04 and i dist-upgrade will work ?
[00:47] <tanath> Alan, ah
[00:47] <Lars_G> mikechelen: if you're using one of the gui package managers, you have to update all packages before it'll show the option to dist upgrade
[00:48] <dksoba88> Diddleha, yea... plus they go bad because of scratches.
[00:48] <tony> leaf__ have you tried pokerstars?
[00:48] <TecnoBrat> vladik: it'll run the configure again on the package, and should "unstick" it
[00:48] <RayC> i've got Dell M1330 and I just installed ubuntu 9.10, and i can't get wireless working, does anybody have answer for this?
[00:48] <vladik> TecnoBrat, that's what I am doing. it asks me for the location of java binary, but since java isn't installed yet its just stuck
[00:48] <tanath> Alan, well, do you really need to be updating repos 5 times a day?
[00:48] <Alan> tanath: 300MB of updates over gigabit is better than pulling it down an ADSL connection...
[00:48] <woddf2> I am upgrading to Karmic. My Internet connection is a bit slow at the moment. What happens if I click Cancel in the upgrade dialogue box if it is at the "Getting new packages" stage?
[00:48] <leaf__> tony humm no but ive tryed bwin too and doesnt work..
[00:48] <Diddleha> dksoba88: Yeah, that blows.
[00:48] <pooky1> ?? is there a certain burning speed that i should use for burning Karmic ??
[00:48] <Alan> tanath: if i'm installing stuff from many locations, maybe, yes
[00:48] <RayC> Wireless problems anybody?
[00:48] <mikechelen> Lars_G, ah that must be it, there is one package that won't upgrade, happens with command line apt-get as well
[00:48] <Bwyard> how do i unmount an extra partition mounted to /
[00:48] <TecnoBrat> vladik: gonna have to force install it then
[00:48] <mage__> woddf2: you should be fine, apt usually downloads then does stuff
[00:48] <rwg> lstarnes: massive channel is massive. :P
[00:48] <jrib> pooky1: 2 or 4
[00:48] <Diddleha> pooky: Full speed ahead :)
[00:49] <MK13> jrib, should a guest account work?
[00:49] <LjL> Bwyard: how can you even have an "extra" partition mounted there?
[00:49] <tony> leaf__ I've used pokerstars in the past but not recently...have you tried and web based sites?
[00:49] <vladik> TecnoBrat, trying
[00:49] <jrib> MK13: I don't know
[00:49] <woddf2> mage__: What happens if I reboot after canceling?
[00:49] <RayC> ok.. i guess i won't be getting help here...
[00:49] <module000> with 9.10...it installed grub2.  how do i *re*install grub2 now that i've overwritten the mbr with another OS's loader.  I know how to do grub1, but grub2 seems like a whole new ballgame
[00:49] <mage__> woddf2: its not doing the upgrade yet
[00:49] <tanath> Alan, i'm not sure there's a particularly easy solution for you other than choosing on a case-by-case basis
[00:49] <Flynsarmy> Anyone else experiencing audio issues in pidgin and totem? If i play a short wav file it plays really fast however after that it'll play correctly unless i wait a while before retrying
[00:49] <fxhp> RayC: whats the matter?
[00:49] <leaf__> toni yeah web based work but is not the same thing
[00:49] <RayC> Wireless problem
[00:49] <pooky1> Diddleha: i had problem with old distro burned too fast or xbox games i did backup.... at full speed
[00:49] <vladik> TecnoBrat , tried it still asks me to run 'dpkg-reconfigure' but that doesn't help
[00:49] <woddf2> mage__: Does it revert the apt sources?
[00:49] <pooky1> thats why i ask...
[00:49] <fxhp> RayC: pm me
[00:49] <mage__> woddf2: I'm not sure when it changes the apt sources
[00:49] <Bwyard> um i do not know but i do
[00:50] <Alan> tanath: I already have a solution that works fine, but it's ugly - i'm trying to find out if the ugly can be avoided
[00:50] <dksoba88> Diddleha, okay... booting 9.10
[00:50] <woddf2> mage__: Will it be unbootable?
[00:50] <mage__> no
[00:50] <tony> leaf__ that's the extent of my poker expertise, good luck
[00:50] <TecnoBrat> vladik: try removing them both then, and install again
[00:50] <tanath> Alan, which is?
[00:50] <vladik> TecnoBrat, I can't finish configuring since I don't have java installed yet (I installed them in the wrong order by mistake)
[00:50] <Diddleha> pooky1: There should be no such issues unless its defect hardware.
[00:50] <woddf2> Thanks
[00:50] <pooky1> RayC: have you looked under system>hardware driver (third party and non-free driver)
[00:50] <TecnoBrat> vladik: force removing I mean
[00:50] <Alan> tanath: at the moment, i have my local mirror lines at the beginning - when it tries to fetch packages, it stops trying the local one if the first fetch from it failed, and continues with the remote one
[00:50] <Bwyard> i have thge original 10g partition mounted there then a 70 gig partition as well
[00:50] <vladik> TecnoBrat, I can't remove anything because the dpkg isn't finished yet, it just tells me to finish it first (even when trying to apt-get remove it)
[00:50] <pooky1> Diddleha: old gateway laptop thats open 24/7
[00:51] <Alan> tanath: what I'm trying to find out is if precedence is order-dependent
[00:51] <guest__> jrib, it's MK13, here is the ls -ld for the guest : drwx------ 2 guest guest 40 2009-10-29 19:47 /tmp/guest-home.vMAIgA/.gvfs
[00:51] <leaf__> toni thanks. ive alredy contact everest poker to incentive the development in open source
[00:51] <Alan> tanath: I want to have the SAME effect if i just drop a foo.list file in sources.list.d/
[00:51] <Diddleha> dksoba88: See what versions of gadmin-proftpd and gadmin-rsync are in it.
[00:51] <rwg> I realized something... this channel is like.. the epitome of IRC
[00:51] <leaf__> toni its a huge comunity using linux alredy
[00:51] <jrib> guest__: so you should make your user's .gvfs writable by the owner
[00:51] <mikechelen> Lars_G, "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" still isn't doing anything, even with all packages updated
[00:51] <rwg> about 5 people talking
[00:51] <Ben64> Sup guys, my friend has an Acer Aspire One, I'm trying to load Ubuntu on it, tried 9.04 and 9.10, same error happens.. Wireless doesn't work unless I first "modprobe ath5k" .. What do I need to do to fix it?
[00:51] <rwg> and the rest just there "staring" :P
[00:51] <dooglus> MidnightDevil: no, I don't think that would help
[00:51] <Diddleha> pooky1 :)
[00:51] <Alan> tanath: but I can't seem to find out if apt cares about the order of the lines in sources.list or whatever...
[00:51] <pooky1> ill go the slowest i can (10)
[00:51] <guest__> jrib how should i do that? (respond back to MK13)
[00:52] <tanath> Alan, mm, well personally i avoid useing sources.list.d/ in favor of centralizing repos in sources.list file
[00:52] <Lars_G> mikechelen: that on the command line will do nothing if you've not changed your repos to the newer version ones and done an apt-get update first
[00:52] <VCoolio> I just installed karmic (yay) but the grub2 menu didn't show. That's fine, there is nothing to choose atm, but is that what grub thinks too? Will it show when a kernel update is installed? Or does it default to not showing and do I need to hold <shift> on boot?
[00:52] <DB42> is ubuntu 9.10 finally worth going full 64-bit mode, or that still sucks, and i386 is the recommended way for normal users ?
[00:52] <jrib> MK13: chmod o+w ~/.gvfs
[00:52] <tanath> Alan, i don't know myself, sorry
[00:52] <Bwyard> so can someone help me
[00:52] <Ben64> DB42: 64 > 32
[00:52] <NoelJB> Sorinello, no really, but I believe that one issue might be what the virtual display driver reports as the available resolutions.
[00:52] <jrib> DB42: i've been using 64 bit ubuntu for years now...
[00:52] <mikechelen> Lars_G, oh, why do the repos have to be changed? thought it would notice the distribution upgrade automatically
[00:52] <DB42> Ben64, in linux 64 used to be a pain in the ass
[00:52] <Diddleha> pooky1: Reminds me of an old "Kiss" burner and MrData Cd's :)
[00:52] <leaf__> -------------------------------------------UBUNTU FOREVER-------------------------------------------
[00:52] <leaf__> :D
[00:53] <trism> VCoolio: it showed up for me by default on this clean install
[00:53] <Ben64> DB42: maybe a long time ago, but I've been doing it since I got my AMD64 3200+
[00:53] <mage__> DB42: depends on specific apps like flash and commercial software that isn't in 64bit for any linux distro
[00:53] <Ben64> flash has 64bit now
[00:53] <tanath> forever is a long time
[00:53] <Ben64> so everything is gravy
[00:53] <pooky1> DB42: im wondering that too... but i often see that 64bit application tends to be upgraded after 32bit clones...
[00:53] <dksoba88> Diddleha, how do I do that w/out installing them?
[00:53] <MK13> jrib, it didn't change what ls -ld gives to my user
[00:53] <redtime> how can i get new linux source for compile new kernel driver?
[00:53] <DB42> k
[00:53] <leaf__> well but if more games of windows work in linux the linux will be more used
[00:53] <jrib> MK13: maybe log out and run it?
[00:53] <rwg> I bet I could say horribly offensive things here and nobody would notice becasue they'd get flushed away by the conversations :P
[00:53] <Plugh> Ben64, which flashplayer is available in 64 bit now?
[00:53] <tomasz> hi
[00:53] <VCoolio> trism: do you have dual boot?
[00:53] <NoelJB> Sorinello, with karmic and Workstation 7, for me it comes up with a low resolution (e.g., login) and I have to raise it to what I want.
[00:53] <Ben64> Plugh: adobe's.
[00:53] <trism> VCoolio: yeah
[00:54] <Plugh> Ben64, cool. its about time.
[00:54] <pooky1> rwg: and what would be the point ?
[00:54] <Ben64> indeed
[00:54] <VCoolio> trism: that may be a significant difference: you have something to choose (bad for you ;) )
[00:54] <mikechelen> Lars_G, ahh, got it working, had to use Update Manager gui instead of Synaptic Package Manager
[00:54] <Diddleha> dksoba88: sudo apt-get install ProgramName then press CTRL+C or install it.
[00:54] <TecnoBrat> vladik: try this - "apt-get -f install" without a package name, and also try "apt-get -f remove" also without a package name
[00:54] <Sorinello> NoelJB: thanks ...
[00:54] <MK13> jrib, how do i run it after logging out?
[00:54] <Ben64> I used to use the 32bit version with the wrapper thing, and it sucked bad
[00:54] <bwyard> im back
[00:54] <jrib> MK13: log in at tty1
[00:54] <Ben64> now flash works flawlessly in 64bit
[00:54] <NoelJB> Sorinello, so I haven't looked to see how the new login screen handles resolution.  I do see a lot of people asking the question, and no answers.
[00:54] <MK13> kk jrib
[00:54] <bwyard> so how would i unmount a second partition mounted to /
[00:54] <jrib> Ben64: ahem "flawlessly"
[00:54] <Ben64> it's true
[00:54] <Richard_Martin> whats up
[00:54] <leaf__> can someone tell me if the ubuntu have born from canonical or from one user?
[00:54] <pooky1>  jrib: loll
[00:54] <Flynsarmy> with alsa-base.conf in modprobe.d will changing snd-hda-intel do anything if my sound card is a sigmaTel?
[00:55] <Ben64> I've yet to have any flash not work
[00:55] <Diddleha> dksoba88: or "N" as in No or "Y" as in yes :)
[00:55] <jrib> bwyard: that makes no sense, but you want to use "umount" I guess
[00:55] <TecnoBrat> vladik: generally that fixes things .. if not, I think there is an option with "dpkg" to force remove a package, but I don't remember for sure.
[00:55] <jacquesdupontd> hey guys
[00:55] <redtime> :(
[00:55] <bwyard> i tried it wont work
[00:55] <e2> Ben64, really? you are running 64bit? does http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8326264.stm play for you? it does in 32bit?
[00:55] <blankhead> how do you enable the nvidia driver in 9.10
[00:55] <arand> e2: see is the 64bit flash instruction at the very end of this article helps you: http://www.reddit.com/tb/9z2xk/
[00:55] <e2> arand, looking at it now
[00:55] <mikechelen> !nvidia | blankhead
[00:55] <Ben64> e2: plays fine
[00:55] <jacquesdupontd> i have a brand new laptop and i installed multi boot windows seven and ubuntu 9.04, would like to update to 9.10 is there an easy way to do it from my actual 9.04 ?
[00:56] <pooky1> blankhead: correct me if im wrong but i think nvidia has open sources drivers available to community so run out of the box ??
[00:56] <Flynsarmy> blankhead, system - administration - hardware drivers
[00:56] <Loafers> Why can't I remove adobereader-enu???? http://pastebin.com/d7f0208c4
[00:56] <rod> I upgraded to 9.10 today, can anybody tell we why there is a process called "dbus-daemon" occupying 50% of my CPU?
[00:56] <TecnoBrat> blankhead: what Flynsarmy said
[00:56] <netbook> can someone help me! : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8192314#post8192314
[00:56] <guest__> jrib, it worked, thnx
[00:56] <Mike_lifeguard> !update | jacquesdupontd
[00:56] <jacquesdupontd> so ?
[00:56] <vladik> TecnoBrat, "apt-get anything" doesn't seem to work until I finish configuring the first package I tried to install (even those last two). I've installed java-bridge before java, and during the configuration of java-bridge it asks for the location of java, until I give it one it won't finish it... but until I finish it I can't install java
[00:56] <jrib> guest__: cool
[00:56] <jacquesdupontd> ok thanks
[00:57] <TecnoBrat> vladik: and if you give it a dummy location?
[00:57] <aguitel> jacquesdupontd, sudo aptitude update and then sudo aptitude safe-upgrade
[00:57] <mage__> vladik: try apt-get remove java-bridge
[00:57] <MidnightDevil> dooglus the previous release was working fine.. do u think if i install the 9.04 and i dist-upgrade will work ?
[00:57] <dksoba88> Diddleha, package not found
[00:57] <TecnoBrat> vladik: just give it like "/dev/null"?
[00:57]  * pooky1 can't wait to format and switch to 9.10 =D
[00:57] <philip___> ok I wanna dist-upgrade to 10.04
[00:57] <vladik> TecnoBrat, it just asks again until it'll get a valid location
[00:57] <jrib> philip___: impossible it's not april yet
[00:57] <TecnoBrat> vladik: :(
[00:57] <Diddleha> dksoba88: sudo apt-get install squid ?
[00:57] <pooky1> philip___: good luck ;)
[00:58] <vladik> TecnoBrat, and dpkg claims java-bridge isn't installed yet, so it can't remove it
[00:58] <craigbass1976> Ok, I'm on Hardy, and my wife can't play facebook's farkle.  ANYONE else had this trouble and found a fix?
[00:58] <dksoba88> Diddleha, same thing
[00:58] <thiebaude> philip___, if you want to start testing it wait til  Nov 5
[00:58] <philip___> jrib: I'm just saying. I wanna struggle with an unstable system :-)
[00:58] <rod> can anybody tell we why there is a process called "dbus-daemon" occupying 50% of my CPU?
[00:59] <Diddleha> dksoba88: As i suspected. Networking down or apt lists bad etc ?
[00:59] <andril> i got a easy one - how do you remove the CD repositories
[00:59] <MatFarrel> hi i'm downloading ubuntu9.10 with DownThemAll and i have speed 128KB/s. lovely.
[00:59] <TecnoBrat> vladik: IIRC it requires the exact package name, including version etc
[00:59] <corden> by the way guys got error on wubi after booting - ntfs5 wubildr - any help? Tnx
[00:59] <jrib> andril: system -> administration -> software sources
[00:59] <plitter> Pelo tony it worked thanks:)
[00:59] <pooky1> in the repositories you can choose the website and add or delete them =D
[01:00] <tony> plitter: you're welcome
[01:00] <andril> jrib: cool how do i remove the cd images - not the checks
[01:00] <dksoba88> Diddleha, running sudo apt-get update
[01:00] <arand> philip___: --> gnome developmer kit ?
[01:00] <vladik> TecnoBrat, how can I tell the exact pacakge name? I installed it using "java-bridge-zend-server"
[01:00] <craigbass1976> I believe I've cleaned everything flashy out of the box and can start fresh
[01:00] <dksoba88> Diddleha, yea wireless not working...but eth0 is fine
[01:00] <jacquesdupontd> aguitel, that's what i was searching, it's working perfectly you tried it ?
[01:00] <jrib> arand: they should be listed there.  If you prefer, just edit /etc/apt/sources.list and run « sudo apt-get update »
[01:00] <jacquesdupontd> aguitel, not working not seeing the update
[01:00] <jacquesdupontd> in sources
[01:00] <jacquesdupontd> but works with the manager
[01:01] <jacquesdupontd> but i don't like it that's why i came here
[01:01] <rance> i have a question i forgot what % <-------WHAT does that mean in python i forgot
[01:01] <TecnoBrat> vladik: dpkg --list |grep java-bridge
[01:01] <braintorch> Hi. I can't switch logout/shutdown messages off. These "You will be logout in 60 seconds" thing. Does anybody know how to fix it?
[01:02] <Mike_lifeguard> rance: string interpolation?
[01:02] <mickster04> anyone having battery reporting problems
[01:02] <Mike_lifeguard> braintorch: Please let me know if you get an answer to that. Annoying as fuck 9_9
[01:02] <rance>       o ok thx ha
[01:02] <aguitel> jacquesdupontd, sorry ,make:alt+F2 and type:update-manager -d
[01:03] <Mike_lifeguard> yay, seb isn't here to let me know I used a bad word :D
[01:03] <LjL> Mike_lifeguard: but i am :(
[01:03] <preecher> lol
[01:03] <DigitalKiwi> !language | Mike_lifeguard
[01:03] <vladik> TecnoBrat, thanks! I finally got it removed and apt working again
[01:03] <TecnoBrat> vladik: no worries
[01:03] <leaf__> my pakage installer window is frosen what is the name of process to kill?
[01:04] <rod> can anybody tell we why there is a process called "dbus-daemon" occupying 50% of my CPU?
[01:04] <netrat> braintorch: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=7008668&postcount=38
[01:04] <Maximo> question: how you guys making out with new dist?
[01:04] <braintorch> Mike_lifeguard: yeah. And it seems, that gnome doesn't respect .config/user_dirs.dirs config. It just creating standart folders over and over
[01:04] <Maximo> is okay to upgrade it?
[01:04] <ctmjr> !ohmy | Mike_lifeguard: feel better now
[01:05] <leaf__> my pakage installer window is frosen what is the name of process to kill?
[01:05] <DigitalKiwi> and goodwill towards mn
[01:05] <ctmjr> Mike_lifeguard: :)
[01:05] <DigitalKiwi> men*
[01:05] <Yos> Anyone can help me get my internet to show up on the network so that I can browse ?
[01:05] <Mike_lifeguard> ctmjr: the smiley means I won't build a voodoo doll of you
[01:05] <jacquesdupontd> aguitel, thx a lot gonna try that new update
[01:05] <leaf__> daemon
[01:05] <braintorch> netrat: thanks
[01:05] <e2> arand Ben64 just done that.... nope.... still wont play.... most of the things do though.... Ben64 interesting that it's working for you... it's a trivial thing, but would be good to work out what the issue was for me...
[01:05] <leaf__> are you there
[01:06] <preecher> my 11th month windows free and 11th month on ubuntu-still learning but lovin it all the way
[01:06] <leaf__> are you there
[01:06] <Ben64> e2: you have 64 bit, and 64 bit flash 10?
[01:06] <leaf__> my pakage installer window is frosen what is the name of process to kill?
[01:06] <dksoba88> Diddleha, gadmin rsync is 0.1.2-1
[01:06] <craigbass1976> Nobody?
[01:06] <Diddleha> neat!
[01:06] <e2> Ben64, yes... fresh install few hours ago
[01:06] <tanath> compiz is blacking out my desktop, and not displaying icons. anyone know how to fix?
[01:06] <ctmjr> Mike_lifeguard: that's a relieve thanks
[01:06] <magr> can someone tell me why i cant connect with the nx client to my ubuntu machine? it says the nx service is not available...but i can connect with putty..i have the same .ket file for the ssh connection...
[01:06] <craigbass1976> Facebook? Farkle? Angry wife wanting XP after doing so well without it for 5+ years?
[01:06] <dksoba88> Diddleha, gadmin proftpd 1:0.3.5-4
[01:06] <andril> why did 9.10 remove Opera, Virtualbox  and Limewire?
[01:06] <Guest84455> hey guys, i just updated to 9.10, or so i thought. i ran "apt-get upgrade" and 50 minutes later after it has restarted. it wants me to upgrade to 9.10 again
[01:06] <pooky1> leaf__ synaptic or ubuntuone ?
[01:06] <dksoba88> Diddleha, why?
[01:07] <Ben64> e2: well.. are you _sure_ you are on 64bit flash? open firefox, go to about:plugins and make sure
[01:07] <e2> Ben64, used mediabuntu... also flashplayer-nonfree
[01:07] <stuff> why isn't there a .img in http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-netbook-remix/daily-live/current/ is 9.10 UNR not out yet?
[01:07] <leaf__> pooky1 synaptic
[01:07] <Diddleha> dksoba88: Wow, thats like brand new stuff. It was a bit old in the 9.04 rel
[01:07] <Jceed> Hi - I installed ubuntu under windows and I can't find it anywhere. Is it like an app or do I have to load at the start of booting up?
[01:07] <blaz2> alternate CD install doesn't work from USB stick :(((
[01:07] <Majost> because the companies which develop those products chose not to distribute their software through the partners repos
[01:07] <Diddleha> dksoba88: Ill upgrade tonight! :)
[01:08] <stuff> why isn't there a .img in http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-netbook-remix/daily-live/current/ is 9.10 UNR not out yet?
[01:08] <mage__> Guest84455: i thought apt-get upgrade was to update the current dist, or did you mean like "apt-get upgrade -flags"?
[01:08] <deco> is the updated ubuntuone-client available already ?
[01:08] <pooky1> leaf__ rightclick on it and close...
[01:08] <pooky1> its gonna forcequit
[01:08] <Diddleha> dksoba88: I have wireless internet so it takes a while (~3 Megabit/s) hehe
[01:08] <mickster04> Guest84455, that wasnt a question
[01:08] <e2> Ben64 interesting question... Shockwave Flash 10.0 r32
[01:09] <pooky1> if not... then list the processes and kill that PUID
[01:09] <Guest84455> mage: no i didnt use any flags. im still relatively new to linux OS. what can i write in terminal to upgrade then ?
[01:09] <leaf__> pooky1 good try but im not so foul lool. its frozen...
[01:09] <Chaorain> Can someone direct me to the torrent of 9.10?
[01:09] <redtime> what is [   12.108183] b43: probe of ssb0:0 failed with error -95
[01:09] <andril> i have the perfect wallpaper for 9.10 - source: http://alkore31.deviantart.com/art/Karmic-wood-141818439
[01:09] <redtime> ?
[01:09] <leaf__> pooky1 not close
[01:09] <Elias_> can I talk to someone about XFree86 configuration I just need some pointers, been reading things about it and fiddling with it on and off 3 days now, driving me insane.. wanna solve my own problem but need a point or two in the right direction, ty :)
[01:09] <Maximo> Is it okay to upgrade to 9:10?
[01:09] <mage__> Guest84455: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
[01:10] <Ben64> e2: odd...
[01:10] <pooky1> leaf__ well i use that button on Gnome that kills a program on GUI
[01:10] <Maximo> !torrents
[01:10] <Ben64> Shockwave Flash 10.0 r32
[01:10] <mage__> Guest84455: the gui option might be better
[01:10] <deco> anyone know if the ubuntu one client update is availble ? it was suppose to fix the mismatch
[01:10] <Chaorain> ty
[01:10] <craigbass1976> Jceed, you should see a grub menu at boot and be able to choose ubuntu
[01:10] <braintorch> netrat: sorry, but there is not such option in karmic -_-
[01:10] <Jceed> craigbass1976: okay, thanks.
[01:10] <daleharvey> http://arthurdejong.org/recovery.html looks handy
[01:11] <wolf23> somebody help plz! why i got this in terminal --> http://paste.ubuntu.com/304691/
[01:11] <Swish> I don't get it.  I'm trying to install ubuntu on a new server (many HDDs, no CD-ROM drive), so I put ubuntu 8.04LTS on a 1TB usb flash drive by using unetbootin.  Then I boot off the USB stick which works, but when I want to "Install Server" it croaks when it finds no CD-ROM drive.  I googled and I can't find a solution
[01:11] <craigbass1976> Jceed, I'm trying to fix a flash issue so I should be in here a while
[01:11] <Diddleha> andril: Cool image, is that the default BG ?
[01:11] <craigbass1976> Jceed, if you're going to reboot...  Just pm me when you get back
[01:11] <Chaorain> wait. can't I just upgrade from 9.04? (I'm on a different machine)
[01:11] <andril> nope - just found it and using it
[01:11] <Maximo> why am I been ignored....question...is it okay to upgrade to 9:10?     thanks
[01:11] <e2> Ben64, works fin on 32bit.... I'm in the UK so it's not as if they would block me by ip... most of the flash works...noticed the same thing with 64bit sidux ......32bit is fine..
[01:12] <libtech> wolf23: whats wrong?
[01:12] <deco> anyone know if the ubuntu one client update is availble ? it was suppose to fix the mismatch
[01:12] <pooky1> Maximo if you feel like getting new... or you could wait a month or two to be sure everything is okay
[01:12] <wolf23> libtech,  why this message, what can i type?
[01:12] <miromanyth> Maximo, Sure go ahead
[01:12] <craigbass1976> Maximo, Is that the K one?  I heard there was some issue with the bootloader, and you'll end up having to do a fresh install for the next version after that
[01:12] <libtech> wolf23: try typing Y and press enter
[01:12] <bigfootbuilt> Maximo....run update manager and get the regular updates first, then upgrade
[01:12] <netrat> Maximo: yes it's okay to upgrade
[01:13] <daleharvey> Maximo: I have lost my work machine and have been ignored for the last 3/4 hours, feel happy :P
[01:13] <wolf23> libtech,  so everything fine,there is no error?
[01:13] <deco> anyone know if the ubuntu one client update is availble ? it was suppose to fix the mismatch
[01:13] <randal> Hey i just install ubuntu 9.10 on my netbook and i would like to make my computer open everything in maximize can anyone help me plz
[01:13] <Guest84455> can anyone recomend a program so i can run a virtual machine? (windows 7, its required for my college course)
[01:13] <libtech> wolf23: not that i am aware of, use the GUI to upgrade instead if you like
[01:13] <Diddleha> andril: Perhaps a sleek city coala as well, with a tie and a cubicle :)
[01:13] <preecher> deco mine still says mismatched
[01:13] <szed> i have created an encrypted lvm. i want to ask me for the password of it every time i boot just like what happens on the default installation. is there any guide for this?
[01:13] <BassGuy> ok, now that I kinda like Ubuntu, is there any way to install it natively (i.e. not "over top of Windows")
[01:13] <deco> preecher: oh :/
[01:13] <mage__> Swish: i dont think ubuntu supports unetbootin :-/
[01:14] <libtech> randal: netbook remix does that by default
[01:14] <andril> that would be nice
[01:14] <Guest84455> BassGuy: are you looking to remove windows completely ?
[01:14] <BassGuy> no
[01:14] <murr5y> hi! my 9.10 installer won't separate my two 120GB drives, it just shows them in RAID as 240GB. what's up with that? i wanted to just install on one of them.
[01:14] <BassGuy> If I wanted to remove windows, I could just format/partition the drive
[01:14] <andril> anyone know why the Virtualbox, Opera and Limewire were uninstalled after my upgrade
[01:15] <Elias_> does anyone know something about XFree86 here I need a point or two in the right direction been about day 3 now on trying to just figure out WHERE THE DANG CONFIG FILE IS and stuff like that
[01:15] <Swish> mage__, howso?  I've created the USBstick manually with syslinux etc, and the same problem happened.  'No common CD-ROM drive was detected' and the Ubuntu installer wouldn't go beyond that step.
[01:15] <randal> libtech i know but i dont have remix i didnt like it but i did like how everything opens maximized do you know how to do this in the non remix thanks
[01:15] <Diddleha> BassGuy: What do you want to do ?
[01:15] <SeaPhor> i am on a HP mini- no ODD- on 8.10 because 9.04 will not install, i only get recovery shell, i just tried to upgrade to 9.10 but its upgrading to 9.04,,, first.,  any suggestions?
[01:15] <wolf23> libtech,  i type y and it is downloading, but nothing can remove or delete from my folders?
[01:15] <Guest84455> BassGuy: create a partition and install windows to that. windows 7 uses 16GB
[01:15] <abryant288> Guest84455: virtualbox worked fine for me to run windows 7
[01:15] <Diddleha> BassGuy: "over top of windows" ? :)
[01:16] <dark_> yeah
[01:16] <Swish> mage__, I've been trying using the 64bit server .iso...
[01:16] <mage__> Swish: the scripts in the initrd are probably looking for a cdrom drive specifically
[01:16] <Plugh> Elias, I think the version of X now being used doesn't use an xorg.conf by default. I'm not quite sure where the base X config is now stored. YOu can set some things with GUI admin tools. What are you trying to do?
[01:16] <mac9416> Hello, what packages are required by empathy to connect to xmpp?
[01:16] <mage__> Swish: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/karmic/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/ubuntu-installer/i386/
[01:16]  * Swish reads
[01:16] <mage__> boot that with whatever you're familiar with
[01:16] <BassGuy> When the Ubuntu ISO/CD is mounted, it gives an option to install "in windows". I don't want to do that. Is it possible to dual boot? or is my Windows install completely gone
[01:16] <BassGuy> ?
[01:16] <FiReSTaRT> my props to canonical!!! suspend FINALLY works and so does my internal mic!!!
[01:16] <Diddleha> Swoosch
[01:17] <andril> yeah but my sound is gone
[01:17] <Plugh> mac9416: If you tell synaptic (or apt-get) to install empathy, you will see a list of its dependencies that your machine may still need in order to run that program.
[01:17] <Yos> Is there a console based browser that I can use ?
[01:17] <randal> Hey i just install ubuntu 9.10 on my netbook and i would like to make my computer open everything in maximize can anyone help me plz
[01:17] <CavalierPrime> BassGuy just boot to the liveCD instead of autostarting in Windows
[01:17] <murr5y> and my disks are gone :p
[01:17] <Guest84455> BassGuy: i actually installed ubuntu again today. you are using a cd/dvd that you have ubuntu on ?
[01:17] <ctmjr> Yos: w3m
[01:17] <BassGuy> I'm using a Ubuntu LiveCD
[01:17] <stone1343> randal use netbook remix, i just installed, it's great
[01:17] <Plugh> FiReSTaRT: Nice. I don't have the built-in mic working on either of two machines.
[01:18] <CavalierPrime> did you start Windows or boot the CD?
[01:18] <Elias_> Plugh: man, ty for responding I've been looking around at aticonfig and been writing down usb IDs and stuff like that - my end goal is to have 2 monitors and 2 mice hooked up. I am just trying to figure out how the heck to locate the default config file and etc
[01:18] <Guest84455> BassGuy: your computer should ask you to boot off cd/dvd and hit a key, else it continues to boot windows.
[01:18] <isaac> BassGuy if you're running from the live cd the installer should give you an option to use part of the hard drive for Ubuntu, and set up a dual boot system.
[01:18] <isaac> BassGuy Where you choose which OS (Ubuntu or Windoze) to run on startup.
[01:18] <isaac> BassGuy It should give you a little slider to select how much of the hard drive you want to give to each OS.
[01:18] <netbook> help please: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8192314#post8192314
[01:18] <randal> stone1343, i guess but i just installed the non remix version
[01:18] <xim_> how can i tell if im on 64bit ubuntu or not?
[01:18] <FiReSTaRT> Plugh: if you don't have karmic, get it.. that's what did it for me
[01:18] <stone1343> randal i think you can add the package through synaptic
[01:18] <Alan> how do i stop the "accessible login" sound in Karmic?
[01:18] <Swish> mage__, I could try setting up an etherboot on USB stick to boot from that HTTP url...
[01:18] <Diddleha> BassGuy: Get a new computer and install it on. Leave the windows thing on the old compu and let it slowly rot as you enjoy the new one ;)
[01:19]  * Swish triess that
[01:19] <Cyboth> hey guys, am I the only one experiencing problems with installing Ubuntu 9.10 Netbook Remix? from the boot I select Install Ubuntu Netbook Remix, I see the ubuntu logo and then my screen goes black (I have an Aspire One)
[01:19] <Plugh> Elias_: Have you looked to see if you can set up what you need using the Display menu item under System -> Preferences?
[01:19] <mage__> Swish: the url might be too long
[01:19] <supertyco> hello
[01:19] <stone1343> randal it's the same as base ubuntu (as far as i can tell) just interface optimized for a netbook
[01:19] <Swish> mage__, alright I'll mirror it locally then.  let's see what happens :)
[01:19] <Plugh> FiReSTaRT: I am running Karmic.
[01:19] <supertyco> I Am sure I am over looking something very obvious
[01:20] <Flynsarmy> Anyone else experiencing audio issues in pidgin and totem? If i play a short wav file it plays really fast however after that it'll play correctly unless i wait a while before retrying
[01:20] <supertyco> but I cant ping out of my server
[01:20] <LiteHedded> how do I upgrade to 9.10?
[01:20] <supertyco> by IP or name
[01:20] <daleharvey> I have a list of packages, how do I generate install their checksums
[01:20] <FiReSTaRT> Plugh: sorry to hear that.. but at least it's a sign that they're fixing things up
[01:20] <andril> Karmic is nice
[01:20] <mage__> LiteHedded: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
[01:20] <snowrichard> i am getting an acer aspire 1 netbook with the 3G wireless next week .  Do you like yours?
[01:20] <Diddleha> Go Karmic! Go Karmic! :)
[01:20] <heylala> I get a fishy looking "support for some applications ended" message including some pretty important packages when trying to upgrade. I've gotten it before when attempting to upgrade to 9.10 beta 4, and my system was unusable after it. What do I do?
[01:20] <xim_> how can i tell if my ubuntu is 64bit?
[01:20] <Plugh> It might be a problem with Pulse Audio. From what I've seen, I don't think its ready for prime time yet. My audio problems usually come back to that.
[01:20] <randal> stone1343,  i know i had 9.04 with remix but i had some bugs how can i add remix in synapic
[01:20] <mage__> heylala: what are yo upgrading from?
[01:20] <heylala> mage__: jaunty
[01:21] <mac9416> Plugh, I can't get XMPP to work, yet all empathy depends/recommends/suggesteds are installed.
[01:21] <Wincerind> chrass
[01:21] <andril> Snow is melting from my Mac
[01:21] <stone1343> randal it's just ubuntu-netbook-remix
[01:21] <LiteHedded> mage_: thanks
[01:21] <supertyco> but I cant ping out of my server
[01:21] <dr3mro> plz having issue with karmic i can use fn keys with f5 or f6 to change volume
[01:21] <supertyco> is there a routing config I am missing
 <bigfootbuilt><netrat><daleharvey> thanks for recommending "upgrade to 9:10)  let me give it a try
[01:21] <pooky1> no prob =P
[01:22] <Diddleha> supertyco: ping IP or DNS-address ?
[01:22] <FiReSTaRT> Plugh: now i can't wait to get to a tv with an hdmi port to see if hdmi sound will also work.. i can live without it (got pc speakers next to where i keep my laptop) but if i'm on a roll...... :P
[01:22] <heylala> mage__: gcc is even on the list...
[01:22] <Plugh> Oh, right. Empathy is the new IM client.
[01:22] <digital_1> Turns out karmic-alternate-amd64.iso (last daily build dated 10/27) was the release version?  The hash checksums match.
[01:22] <lagreca> hi friends
[01:22] <supertyco> Diddleha: neither works
[01:22] <lagreca> the ubuntu is great
[01:22] <randal> stone1343, thanks i found it 9.10 is awsome
[01:22] <Maximo> bbl...
[01:22] <supertyco> ping ip and name
[01:22] <lagreca> the new ubuntu is great
[01:22] <supertyco> I can ping internal
[01:22] <Diddleha> supertyco: traceroute www.google.com
[01:22] <stone1343> randal agreed 9.10 is awesome
[01:23] <Diddleha> supertyco: Does it reach google ?
[01:23] <dr3mro> plz having issue with karmic i can use fn keys with f5 or f6 to change volume
[01:23] <pooky1> yeah about empathy, someone as some feedback, pro/cons with pidgin ??? does the videocall works in msn now ?
[01:23] <digital_1> Is there a decent speed mirror to use for the updates?
[01:23] <Plugh> FiReSTaRT: speaking of TV, I can't get any audio from MythTV. Nothing from live TV and nothing from programs previously recorded with MythTV
[01:23] <lagreca> does anyone here get a false positive bad sector warning in palimpsest?
[01:23] <emagweb> Hi there. I need help. I have 2 PC with Ubuntu 9.10. How can I make LAN Network in Ubuntu.
[01:23] <supertyco> Diddleha: it resolves the name but does not get there
[01:23] <hipitihop> I have an ION 330 based karmic + mtythv setup... is there a way to monitor temperatures remotely ?
[01:23] <andorin> Will the software in the Resource Center that is "not available in the current data" eventually become downloadable? I want the real Xchat, not the Xchat GNOME replacement.
[01:23] <Diddleha> supertyco: Bad default gateway address
[01:23] <Plugh> Reminds me that I wanted to delete empathy. I'm happy with pidgin
[01:24] <heylala> Anyone have any recommendation?
[01:24] <randal> stone1343, i love what they did with the boot its so pretty lol
[01:24] <Royall> Is it possible to upgrade from an ISO (or some sort of torrent so it wouldn't take ages)
[01:24] <andorin> I also want Exaile, but it's listed as unavailable as well...
[01:24] <enjo451> I just upgraded to 9.10... wireless isn't working. It worked fine under Jaunty...
[01:24] <FiReSTaRT> Plugh: try plugging in pc speakers.. that did the trick when i was playing movies on my tv :P
[01:24] <Diddleha> supertyco: Setup your clients networking again.
[01:24] <supertyco> Diddleha: I used DHCP
[01:24] <snowrichard> plug each pc into ports on a router, hook the router to your dsl/cable modem or whatever
[01:24] <digital_1> Anyone know of a decent mirror for the updates?  Just grabbing the nVidia driver is taking minutes
[01:24] <Royall> as opposed to wiping and reinstalling
[01:24] <andril> i am glad that Karmic came out well - because Dedian is backing ChromeOS as well
[01:24] <FiReSTaRT> Plugh: well i'm off to sleep.. good luck with the sound issues :)
[01:24] <pooky1> Royall: the torrent is really fast ATM
[01:24] <enjo451> The broadcom proprietary driver is installed and shows up under 'hardware drivers'
[01:24] <lagreca> enjo451, do you have a dell notebook?
[01:24] <supertyco> Diddleha: all other computers on network can get out
[01:24] <enjo451> lagreca: yep
[01:24] <Royall> pooky1: But I mean I want to upgrade, not reinstall
[01:24] <heylala> digital_1: check in package sources, it can automatically find the fastest mirror for you
[01:24] <lagreca> i had the same problem
[01:24] <enjo451> please tell me you could fix it:)
[01:24] <Diddleha> supertyco: Its a client behind a router then, ok.
[01:24] <CavalierPrime> supertyco check your firewall rules
[01:24] <lagreca> let me see what I did
[01:24] <heylala> I get a fishy looking "support for some applications ended" message including some pretty important packages when trying to upgrade. I've gotten it before when attempting to upgrade to 9.10 beta 4, and my system was unusable after it. What do I do?
[01:25] <andril> my smb wont work
[01:25] <supertyco> Diddleha: yes behind a cisco asa 5510
[01:25] <Plugh> FiReSTaRT: I have speakers plugged in. I've checked audio output that is selected. All my other programs with sound work. No problem with sound from totem or gmplayer.
[01:25] <pooky1> royall ah oki sry
[01:25] <enjo451> I found a thread from a week or two ago about installing 'bcmwl-kernel-source'... but that's already installed
[01:25] <Diddleha> supertyco: /etc/resolv.conf is ok ?
[01:25] <Plugh> FiReSTaRT: I'm going to rebuild mythtv without support for pulseaudio and see if that makes a difference.
[01:25] <hipitihop> Royall: if you get a response pls pm me
[01:25] <supertyco> Diddleha: yes
[01:25] <lagreca> i was gonna tell u to install it
[01:25] <Diddleha> supertyco: proxy settings ok ?
[01:25] <jumbers> So I was doing my upgrade via SSH and got disconnected in the middle when a package was prompting me for information. Now what am I supposed to do?
[01:26] <supertyco> Diddleha: no proxy
[01:26] <Cyboth> hey guys, am I the only one experiencing problems with installing Ubuntu 9.10 Netbook Remix? from the boot I select Install Ubuntu Netbook Remix, I see the ubuntu logo and then my screen goes black (I have an Aspire One)
[01:26] <jumbers> When I try to rerun do-release-upgrade, it just says to me "Unable to get exclusive lock"
[01:26] <andorin> Will the software in the Resource Center that is "not available in the current data" eventually become downloadable? I want the real Xchat, not the Xchat GNOME replacement.
[01:26] <Diddleha> supertyco: Ok, hmm...
[01:26] <stone1343> cyboth i just did it on my aao
[01:26] <hipitihop> jumbers: if use use 'screen' it would allow you to recnnect and continue the session. not sure what you do now though sorry
[01:26] <Cyboth> worked fine?
[01:26] <Diddleha> supertyco: "route" and see if it differs from the rest of your computers
[01:26] <stone1343> cyboth yep, usding it now
[01:26] <supertyco> ok
[01:27] <Cyboth> hmm, and all you did was make a bootable usb and installed it?
[01:27] <lagreca> friends, does anyone here get a false positive bad sector warning in palimpsest?
[01:27] <heylala> I get a fishy looking "support for some applications ended" message including some pretty important packages when trying to upgrade. I've gotten it before when attempting to upgrade to 9.10 beta 4, and my system was unusable after it. Recommendations?
[01:27] <stone1343> cyboth i always select 'use without changing system', so i can connect to my wireless
[01:27] <supertyco> Diddleha: this does not look right
[01:27] <supertyco> Diddleha: 10.0.1.0        *               255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 eth0
[01:28] <stone1343> cyboth yes, bootable usb made with usb creator
[01:28] <bostongeek24> how do i install my graphics driver
[01:28] <stone1343> cyboth brb
[01:28] <Cyboth> k, ill try with a different usb key I guess, thanks
[01:28] <Cyboth> k
[01:28] <mattperry> lagreca I got that too
[01:28] <bostongeek24> the one that came with 9.10 i think is bugged it causes the screen to flicker
[01:28] <bostongeek24> i downloaded the driver from intel i have a msi wind
[01:28] <Diddleha> supertyco: Its the client LAN (10.0.1. 0-254) ?
[01:29] <Plugh> bostongeek24: what drivers are you trying to use?
[01:29] <lagreca> mattperry, what did you do in order to solve this bug?
[01:29] <supertyco> Diddleha: yes
[01:29] <Diddleha> supertyco: route | grep -i "UG"
[01:29] <CavalierPrime> supertyco  looks ok, cept do you have a "default"  line below that?
[01:29] <andorin> Will the software in the Resource Center that is "not available in the current data" eventually become downloadable? I want the real Xchat, not the Xchat GNOME replacement.
[01:29] <Amanieu> In 9.04 I could control my laptop speaker volume independantly from my headphone jack volume, but in 9.10 there is only a single volume control option for both, which uses headphones when they are plugged in or speakers otherwise. Is there a way to get the old behavior back?
[01:29] <iuri> hi there, does anyone here know about amend src files of an applications
[01:29] <iuri> i want to put some printfs in the wget source and see the string when i run the command wget  http...
[01:29] <plitter> hey, i installed 9.10 and suddenly it threw me to the command line.... how can i get back to the gui? i am in the gui through the cd now.... so i know it is supposed to work
[01:30] <supertyco> Diddleha: default         10.0.1.1        0.0.0.0         UG    100    0        0 eth0
[01:30] <andril> anyone know if Pulse Audio has issues I have no sound
[01:30] <stone1343> cyboth, do you have the aao with SSD?
[01:30] <Cyboth> yes
[01:30] <Cyboth> 160g
[01:30] <stone1343> cyboth, not the 160G is a regular hard disk
[01:30] <mnaines> Hey...New recommendation for ya'll.  Check out "The Official Ubuntu Book"
[01:30] <Diddleha> supertyco: 10.0.1.1 is your router ?
[01:30] <mattperry> anyone else having trouble upgrading from ubuntu repos?
[01:30] <ripps> andril: http://drowninginbugs.blogspot.com/2009/10/caveats-for-audio-in-910.html if none of those work, file a bug with `ubuntu-bug pulseaudio`
[01:30] <stone1343> cyboth, i th
[01:31] <CavalierPrime> looks backwards
[01:31] <Cyboth> oh yea, sry
[01:31] <thiebaude> mnaines, you got a link?
[01:31] <supertyco> Diddleha: default         10.0.1.1        0.0.0.0         UG    100    0        0 eth0
[01:31] <stone1343> cyboth, ok cuz if you havd the ssd, i had a suggestion
[01:31] <mnaines> thiebaude: Its a physical book.  No link.
[01:31] <andril> ripps: thanks
[01:31] <thiebaude> mnaines, ahh, ok
[01:31] <bostongeek24> how do i install the video driver for intel p945 chipet
[01:31] <mnaines> thiebaude: $34.99 at Borders
[01:31] <Cyboth> kk, well, I have another usb key here, i'll try that, I dunno whats going on
[01:31] <stone1343> cyboth, anyway the live usb worked fine, so maybe it's your drive, like you suggested
[01:32] <szed> is there a tool to select the fastest mirror for ubunt via terminal?
[01:32] <Cyboth> thanks for the help
[01:32] <stone1343> cyboth np
[01:32] <johnboker> does anyone in here know anything about the i965 white screen problem ?
[01:32] <xxaaronxx> CAn i have some help in a private chat?
[01:32] <CavalierPrime> supertyco:  you can always try  sudo service networking restart
[01:32] <mnaines> xxaaronxx: Ask here.  We don't do private chats
[01:32] <Royall> About 4 hours remaining
[01:32] <bpun> there exfat driver?  does anybody know about this site? http://www.tuxera.com/products/exfat-for-embedded-systems/
[01:32] <Royall> About 5 hours remaining
[01:32] <mickster04> Royall, till wat?
[01:33] <bostongeek24> can someone help me??
[01:33] <supertyco> Cav: what will that do? wont it just set the same settings again
[01:33] <Royall> Till I get my damn update packages
[01:33] <Royall> er
[01:33] <Royall> sorry
[01:33] <mnaines> !ask | bostongeek24
[01:33] <mac9416> Hello, when trying to connect to Gtalk in empathy I get a "Network Error". Any ideas?
[01:33] <xxaaronxx> Oh, well i need to update from my current version, to8.04LTS
[01:33] <bostongeek24> i did
[01:33] <xxaaronxx> and i have no clue how with out using the cd, they are in a datacenter
[01:33] <mickster04> xxaaronxx, cant you download that?
[01:33] <xxaaronxx> and i cant get a cd and stick it in there
[01:33] <CavalierPrime> supertyco:  it may sort itself out, may not   but won't hurt to try it
[01:33] <bostongeek24> how do i install the graphics driver for intel p945 chipset
[01:33]  * xrandr wonders why he only gets 1mbps on his wireless connection
[01:34] <plitter> hey, i installed 9.10 and suddenly it threw me to the command line.... how can i get back to the gui? i am in the gui through the cd now.... so i know it is supposed to work and i dont want to have to install it again....
[01:34] <enjo451> Well that didn't work... I"m still having serious issues getting wireless to work on my dell laptop
[01:34] <mnaines> xrandr: That happens to me on the RT2500PCI drivers for my Linksys card.  There is no solution that I know of.
[01:34] <enjo451> broadcom card
[01:34] <andorin> Will the software in the Resource Center that is "not available in the current data" eventually become downloadable? I want the real Xchat, not the Xchat GNOME replacement.
[01:34] <cipherz> hello, I am trying to get unr 9.10 on my usb stick using the instructions from: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromImgFiles
[01:34] <Diddleha> supertyco: Hows it goings ?
[01:34] <stone1343> xxaaronxx you can burn the iso to a flash drive using USB creator
[01:34] <Andisu> hi anybody can help me?
[01:34] <xrandr> mnaines: i have a netgear WPN311NA card
[01:34] <mickster04> plitter, it's supposed to work by itself, try pressing ctrl+alt+f7(or 6)
[01:35] <supertyco> Diddleha: default         10.0.1.1        0.0.0.0         UG    100    0        0 eth0
[01:35] <Andisu> i´ve installing ubuntu 9 in my notebook
[01:35] <enjo451> I tried installing bcmwl-kernel-source (sudo apt-get install bcmw-kernel-source), but that doesn't really help
[01:35] <mnaines> thiebaude: Can I PM you?
[01:35] <cipherz> I cant get it to boot on it tho :/ i can see activity on the usb stick but then it fails to boot, tried booting the grub cmd from the already installed linux and it says bad partition table for the usb stick ( did it using dd if=iso of=/dev/devicenode bs=1M)
[01:35] <enjo451> just upgraded to 9.10
[01:35] <Andisu> but when i try to enter by grub, the computer restart
[01:35] <Diddleha> supertyco: Yah ? :)
[01:35] <enjo451> what are my options here
[01:35] <enjo451> ?
[01:35] <bostongeek24> does anyone know?
[01:35] <Sanchez> I want to upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10, and I need to export my private and public keys from Seahorse.  Highlighting a key and clicking "export" only seems to export the public key.  How can I export all the keys so I can import them again after upgrading?
[01:35] <supertyco> Diddleha: no luck still cant get out
[01:35] <xxaaronxx> So how can i upgrade from my current version to 8.04 LTS without puting a cd in the tray?
[01:35] <mickster04> bostongeek24, try just to keep your question to one liners, otherwise people get confused....
[01:36] <heylala> I get a fishy looking "support for some applications ended" message including some pretty important packages when trying to upgrade. I've gotten it before when attempting to upgrade to 9.10 beta 4, and my system was unusable after it. Recommendations?
[01:36] <stone1343> xxaaronxx should be able to
[01:36] <bostongeek24> ok
[01:36] <CavalierPrime> supertyco: sounds like a DNS issue or firewall rule
[01:36] <Diddleha> supertyco: Ping the primary DNS.
[01:36] <bostongeek24> for the 4th time
[01:36] <Royall> anyone have tips on increasing the download speed while you're downloading
[01:36] <johnboker> I just updated from 9.04 to 9.10 and upon booting for the first time the screen is completely white, then single pixel colored vertical lines start to appear.  I've looked for the past 2 hours and have found no real answers on how to fix this problem. here is more information on the issue https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/297245
[01:36] <sweetandy> Royall: Torrent it
[01:36] <bostongeek24> how do i install the graphics driver for intel p945 chipset
[01:36] <hanzomon4> Pizza helps with the download speed
[01:36] <plitter> mickster04: that just sort of changes the "terminal".... tried startx, /etc/init.d/gdm restart and /etc/init.d/xdm restart....
[01:36] <hanzomon4> Really just watch some tv
[01:36] <mickster04> plitter, sounds like its a broken install if non of that works:/
[01:37] <supertyco> Diddleha: 100% loss
[01:37] <plitter> mickster04: so i have to install it from scratch?
[01:37] <mikechelen> heylala, that warning didn't bother me since it mentioned they would only be removed if multiverse wasn't enabled, but if it caused probs for you before idk
[01:37] <Diddleha> supertyco: Ping the router
[01:37] <Andisu> hi, i install the Ubuntu 9, but when i choose ubuntu 9 in grub, my computer restart, anybody can help me?
[01:37] <supertyco> Diddleha: get a reply
[01:37] <lstarnes> Andisu: 9.04 or 9.10?
[01:38] <Sanchez> I want to upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10, and I need to export my private and public keys from Seahorse.  Highlighting a key and clicking "export" only seems to export the public key.  How can I export all the keys so I can import them again after upgrading?
[01:38] <Diddleha> supertyco: Fett tycho lixom
[01:38] <supertyco> Diddleha: ?
[01:38] <Andisu> [lstarnes]: 9.04
[01:38] <heylala> mikechelen: I had multiverse enabled as well. Still upgraded me to a relatively borked install (no desktop background, and messed up X). Oh well. I'll take a shot at it anyhow. *Flips Coin* Thanks.
[01:38] <Diddleha> nm
[01:38] <axisys> what channel do I talk about compiz
[01:38] <axisys> ?
[01:38] <Whitor>  #compiz
[01:38] <bostongeek24> anyone??
[01:38] <axisys> Whitor: thanks
[01:38] <CavalierPrime> supertyco:  nslookup your dns server
[01:38] <lstarnes> Andisu: I don't know what would cause that.  someone else might
[01:38] <Diddleha> supertyco: Do you have several subnets on the LAN ?
[01:39] <mikechelen> heylala, strange, it doesn't seem like any of the main gnome packages would stop being included. did anything else go wrong that time?
[01:39] <supertyco> Cav: I cant get out of the network
[01:39] <Yos> How can I force a program to close, like firefox ?
[01:39] <bostongeek24> ??
[01:39] <supertyco> Diddleha: No
[01:39] <Mike_lifeguard> Instead of waiting for overloaded servers, could I upgrade mysql from a karmic ISO?
[01:39] <daleharvey> kill all firefox
[01:39] <daleharvey> *killall
[01:39] <Mike_lifeguard> (not the alternate CD)
[01:39] <sweetandy> Yos: Open up a terminal, type in "sudo killall firefox-bin"
[01:39] <supertyco> its a routing issue I just cant figure out what it is
[01:39] <stone1343> yos i use system monitor
[01:39] <Mike_lifeguard> it'd be a full server iso
[01:39] <CavalierPrime> supertyco: nslookup your router
[01:39] <bigfootbuilt>  YOS CNTL-ALT-\ key
[01:39] <bostongeek24> hello??
[01:39] <Yos> thanks
[01:39] <DB42> does http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/file?info_hash=%3Cb%90%96%E7%26%D5%281%B2%F9%AF%95%07%27%7B6%F6%22%12 (the dvd) work for anyone ?
[01:39] <lstarnes> Yos: try killall name or pkill na,e
[01:39] <lstarnes> *name
[01:39] <Andisu> lstarnes when i select the location, the time is wrong (-2 hours)
[01:39] <heylala> mikechelen: not as far as I saw. Most of the packages on the list had to do with Qt, which was weird. This time gcc is on the list which is weirder. I didn't catch any error messages last time though during install, no.
[01:39] <andorin> Will the software in the Resource Center that is "not available in the current data" eventually become downloadable? I want the real Xchat, not the Xchat GNOME replacement.
[01:40] <lstarnes> Andisu: your computer's hardware clock may be off
[01:40] <johnboker> nobody has any answers for the issue im having?
[01:40] <Andisu> |lstarnes|: how to i turn on?
[01:40] <sweetandy> bostongeek24: type in "apt-cache search xserver-xorg", and then add the package that contains your driver
[01:40] <Whitor> Anyone have any idea why I don't have the ability to enable any proprietary drivers in Administration -> Hardware Drivers ?  ... in 9.04 I could enable Nvidia drivers (180)
[01:40] <supertyco> Cav: what does nslookup have to do with routing
[01:40] <Diddleha> supertyco: Cisco ASA... got special rules for this client in it or so ?
[01:40] <MiLLo> hey - would anyone be willing to give me a hand with issues with installing ubuntu?
[01:40] <mickster04> plitter, sounds like, when u use the live disk, run from it, without making cahnges then use the installer from that desktop
[01:40] <dksoba88> can I modify grub.cfg safely by moving around code blocks? It says don't edit but I want to remove and reorder some items
[01:40] <lstarnes> Andisu: I don't mean "off" as in "not enabled" or "not operating"
[01:40] <heylala> MiLLo: ask
[01:40] <CavalierPrime> tells me if your router is serving up dns correctly
[01:40] <dksoba88> (running 9.10 now just for reference)
[01:40] <lstarnes> Andisu: I mean "off" as in "not correct"
[01:40] <randal> c
[01:40] <supertyco> Didd: no its just another computer behind the network
[01:40] <heylala> johnboker: ask again didn't catch it
[01:41] <johnboker> I just updated from 9.04 to 9.10 and upon booting for the first time the screen is completely white, then single pixel colored vertical lines start to appear.  I've looked for the past 2 hours and have found no real answers on how to fix this problem. here is more information on the issue https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/297245
[01:41] <mickster04> johnboker, please keep your questions on one line, i cant find ur problem as an example
[01:41] <Whitor> Are the proprietary Nvidia video card drivers available for 9.10 ?
[01:41] <lstarnes> Whitor: they should be
[01:41] <mickster04> johnboker, thanks
[01:41] <johnboker> yup
[01:41] <randal> Hi i just upgraded to the new netbook remix and i want to switch it to classic mode but i cant figure it out plz help thanks
[01:41] <MiLLo> I've just downloaded the latest ubuntu, from the website, loaded to cd - no probs.  put in laptop, told it to boot from cd - it reboots, loads 2 lines regarding ubuntu (for less than a second), then reboots the pc - this is a continuous (and seemingly indefinite) process
[01:41] <Diddleha> dksoba88: Dont :)
[01:41] <hanzomon4> edit /etc/defaults/grub
[01:42] <Andisu> lstarnes ok i will try access the bios and enable something like this
[01:42] <mikechelen> MiLLo, try alternate install cd
[01:42] <lstarnes> Andisu: there is nothing to enable
[01:42] <johnboker> mickster04, 9.04 worked fine, suse had this same issue
[01:42] <heylala> MiLLo: try the alt install
[01:42] <mickster04> randal, if u find out let me know, i think u may have to install the desktop version?
[01:42] <jayferd> Hey guys - I'm running into problems trying to combine squashfs with unionfs-fuse to create extra space on my 4G eeepc.  I think I just need a quick tip.
[01:42] <jayferd> details: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/304705/
[01:42] <Andisu> [[lstarnes]]: uhn ok
[01:42] <lstarnes> Andisu: you just need to change your clock's settings
[01:42] <lstarnes> Andisu: ubuntu can change the clock for you
[01:42] <Andisu> [(lstarnes)]: no
[01:42] <CavalierPrime> supertyco:  also do a sudo ufw status, if it is enabled, sudo ufw disable and try it then
[01:42] <stone1343> randal you don't like netbook remix?
 MiLLo, try alternate install cd - such as/where from?
[01:42] <Andisu> lstarnes my ubuntu can`t start
[01:42] <lstarnes> Andisu: do you have another OS?
[01:42] <DB42> http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/file?info_hash=EolYj%1C%AF%3Bt%0E%B5%95%82%89b%5BJR%04%29 <-- why isn't this torrent working for me ? utorrent says it's an invalid file (ubuntu-9.10-dvd-amd64.iso) ?!?!?!?!?!
[01:42] <Andisu> when i choose ubuntu the computer restar
[01:43] <Andisu> yes
[01:43] <dksoba88> hanzomon4, thanks
[01:43] <Andisu> lstarnes windows 7
[01:43] <mikechelen> heylala, weird, i said okay at the warning too, will let you know in a couple hours if it worked okay :D
[01:43] <randal> stone1343, i like it but i also like the classic way and cant figure out how to switch on the old remix you were able too
[01:43] <Whitor> lstarnes, interesting. They are not. I'd like to get compiz going, but can't until I get my video card drivers going
[01:43] <stone1343> randal i don't remember off the top of my head
[01:43] <Random832> how do i change the icons in openoffice?
[01:43] <Random832> it just doesn't work, it keeps going back to Human
[01:43] <Roasted> Sup guys - I installed 9.10 just now. I have 4 drives in my system. My pair of 250gb drives are showing up as "nvidia_raid_member" and I have NO idea why. I'm trying to mount these drives but nothing is working. "device does not exist"
[01:43] <lstarnes> Andisu: windows and linux use the hardware clock differently
[01:43] <kevin009> hello, i think i'm having the file corruption bug on 9.10 with ext4
[01:43] <dksoba88> hanzomon4, but wait a minute... /etc/default/grub doesn't have all my listings in it
[01:43] <randal> stone1343, there use to be a setting you could change but i cant find it on this new one
[01:44] <lstarnes> Andisu: one expects it to be local time, the other expects it to be UTC/GMT
[01:44] <SeaPhor> Whitor, have you updated yet?
[01:44] <heylala> mikechelen: yeah...me too. about 5 hours heh. Unless I get impatient and cancel and reinstall from CD. Even odder is that the list of package changes on the screen right afterwards doesn't list the same packages for removal (actually it does for bluez but I think bluez actually has been replaced). We'll see how it goes I guess.
[01:44] <kevin009> if i copy a large file like the windows 7 rc image from my external hdd to the internal one and then run a diff after, they are different
[01:44] <kevin009> likewise with md5sum
[01:44] <randal> stone1343, im staring to think you cant
[01:44] <Whitor> SeaPhor, Yeah, Update manager says my system is up to date
[01:44]  * xrandr curses his wireless connection
[01:45] <DB42> http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/file?info_hash=EolYj%1C%AF%3Bt%0E%B5%95%82%89b%5BJR%04%29 <-- why isn't this torrent working for me ? utorrent says it's an invalid file (ubuntu-9.10-dvd-amd64.iso) ?!?!?!?!?!
[01:45] <Victory444> I have a question about IP addreses.  I purchased a vps yesterday. the IP of the companies website traces to Canada, the IP of my vps traces to Romania, the nameservers are in the Netherlands, and their datacenter, the PHYSICAL server, is in the USA. is that legal? O_O
[01:45] <Andisu> lstarnes uhn..
[01:45] <MiLLo> sorry guys - i'm fairly new to ubuntu etc. where do i find the alt cd/install?
[01:45] <stone1343> randal pretty sure i did with an earlier build
[01:45] <Arguile> Has anyone else had any permissions issues with webcams on Karmic?
[01:45] <lstarnes> Victory444: likely
[01:45] <Andisu> lstarnes hahahaha i active boot recovery in bios and ubuntu start!
[01:45] <randal> stone1343, i did to with 9.04 but with 9.10 i dont think you can
[01:45] <SeaPhor> Whitor, and you have restricted extras enabled?
[01:45] <Ben64> Victory444: probably not but who cares
[01:45] <Andisu> huahuahuahua ty!
[01:45] <MiLLo> it's an old ibm thinkpad/pentium 3/900mhz/512mb ram if that makes a difference
[01:45] <mikechelen> DB42, idk, works fine for me, try the magnet link? magnet:?xt=urn:btih:IVXWYWLKDSXTW5AOWWKYFCLCLNFFEBBJ
[01:45] <stone1343> randal maybe so, i haven't tried yet
[01:46] <Whitor> SeaPhor, That must be it! where is that ?
[01:46] <Andisu> lstarnes one week trying, thinking the problem was in Ubuntu, and the problem was in BIOS
[01:46] <Andisu> huahuahuahuhua
[01:46] <mikechelen> MiLLo, it's here: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors#alternate
[01:46] <Whitor> SeaPhor, wait ... It is enabled :(
[01:46] <kevin009> there were also 0 errors in dmesg
[01:46] <MiLLo> thanks mikechelen
[01:46] <johnboker> mickster04 this video issue is annoying
[01:47] <braintorch> I'm starting to think, that it'll be better to fall back to 9.04 :-|
[01:47] <Andisu> lstarnes but the time is wrong, here now is 23:48 o´clock and my notebook is 21:47
[01:47] <MiLLo> it's an ibm thinkpad/pentium 3/900mhz/512mb ram - is that capable of the latest ubuntu by the way - i coudln't find any system specs when I looked before
[01:47] <Ben64> Hey.. my friend has an Acer Aspire One, I'm trying to load Ubuntu UNR on it, tried 9.04 and 9.10, same error happens.. Wireless doesn't work unless I first "modprobe ath5k" .. What do I need to do to fix it?
[01:47] <johnboker> is there anyway to downgrade after upgrading ?
[01:47] <lstarnes> Andisu: which time zone are you in?
[01:47] <stone1343> randal you're right it doesn't seem possible
[01:47] <Lars_G> Is this still too hectic for help?
[01:47] <SeaPhor> Whitor, try this.. sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade sources.list
[01:47] <lstarnes> johnboker: downgrades are not supported
[01:47] <sweetandy> johnboker: no
[01:47] <mnaines> MiLLo: Karmic needs minimum 1GB of RAM and a 1GHz CPU
[01:47] <CavalierPrime> nope
[01:47] <johnboker> great..
[01:47] <stone1343> ben64 i'm on an AAO, no problems
[01:48] <daleharvey> I dont want to tempt fate but ive been running for about an hour now with no crashes!!
[01:48] <Roasted> guys - I have two 250gb drives that karmic is reading as "nvidia_raid_member" and I cannot mount them. In my old install with jaunty they mounted by fstab. But I cant mount them now. I cant even view the contents. wtf?
[01:48] <randal> stone1343, i like it but the thing i do not like is that you cant switch between them and when omething is maximized you cant see the window decoration
[01:48] <mickster04> randal, yeah there used to be "switch to dsktop mode" which karmic doesnt seem to have, so i assume it doesnt
[01:48] <Ben64> stone1343: what version? does the wireless light/switch work?
[01:48] <Whitor> SeaPhor, thanks, trying
[01:48] <mickster04> randal, u can ficx that with gconf editor
[01:48] <mikechelen> MiLLo, try Xubuntu, it uses the lightweight XFCE desktop manager
[01:48] <stone1343> ben64 karmic and yes the light works
[01:48] <randal> mickster04,  how do i do that
[01:48] <johnboker> i'll try a fresh install of 9.10 then just do another clean install of 9.04 if that doesnt work
[01:48] <Whitor> SeaPhor, nope, that didn't do it
[01:49] <Andisu> but i can´t choose screen resolution 1024x728
[01:49] <pronto> so i just updated from 8.10 to 9.04, how nessacary is it to reboot?
[01:49] <pronto> *blinks* also why did it remove mpd x.x
[01:49] <Ben64> stone1343: how did you install it? worked right out of the box? upgrade from 9.04?
[01:49] <mnaines> johnboker: I did a fresh install of 9.10 and never had problems
[01:49] <Black_Phantom> guys am freakin out, why my 9.10 cd wont boot on my Toshiba Satellite ????? am 100% sure its from ubuntu
[01:49] <johnboker> mnaines i did an upgrade and am having a lot of issues
[01:49] <heylala> Black_Phantom: try the alt cd as well
[01:49] <stone1343> ben64 live usb, 'run without changing system', connect to wireless, install
[01:50] <randal> mickster04,  is that in terminal or something
[01:50] <Whitor> Black_Phantom, will it boot on another computer ?
[01:50] <Black_Phantom> heylala I did
[01:50] <mnaines> johnboker: That is why I am not recommending the upgrade.  I always recommend a clean install.
[01:50] <daleharvey> what happened to ubuntus fancy screen?
[01:50] <Roasted> guys - I have two 250gb drives that karmic is reading as "nvidia_raid_member" and I cannot mount them. In my old install with jaunty they mounted by fstab. But I cant mount them now. I cant even view the contents. wtf?
[01:50] <stone1343> ben64 fresh install
[01:50] <Black_Phantom> Whitor yeah man
[01:50] <LiteHedded> can someone tell me why my screensaver doesn't display when i lock my screen?
[01:50] <mickster04> randal yeah
[01:50] <daleharvey> I quite liked that
[01:50] <andorin> Will the software in the "Software Center" that's marked as "not available in the current data" soon become available for download?
[01:50] <mickster04> randal pm me
[01:50] <SeaPhor> Whitor, look at System>Admin..>software sources,,, look at each tab
[01:50] <heylala> Black_Phantom: and your cd drive is at the top of your boot order yes?
[01:50] <johnboker> mnaines in 5 minutes i'll have the cd to install, i'll let you know how it goes
[01:50] <Ben64> well wth, i guess i need to try re-install
[01:50] <Damdempsel> Does anyone know how to install GDM themes in 9.10? Going to System->Administration->Login Screen doesn't seem to work.
[01:50] <juststopedforcou> Just installed 9.10 remix on Acer Apire One 751h. Its sooooo slow. Does anyone know what to do?
[01:51] <DB42> mikewhere do you get the magnet link from ?
[01:51] <mnaines> johnboker: It worked fine for me, so I do not think you will have any problems.
[01:51] <choronzon> !upgrade
[01:51] <braintorch> mnaines: and you aren't getting those annoying messages, when trying to logout/shutdown?
[01:51] <Black_Phantom> heylala I get to choose when I press F12 from which drive I want to boot from, I click CD/DVD but it doesnt detect while it does for other cds ( including other ubuntu versions )
[01:51] <ripps> Damdempsel: gdm was rewritten, it doesn't support theme changing yet
[01:51] <corden> where to find cd checksum of the iso?
[01:51] <Damdempsel> Ok, thanks.
[01:51] <mnaines> braintorch: No, I am not.
[01:51] <stone1343> ben64 unfortunately i'm not techie to help u debug it
[01:51] <netrat> wow the update servers are super slow with everyone upgrading to 9.10
[01:51] <darkham> are this ati-driver-installer-9-3-x86.x86_64 karmic compatibles?
[01:51] <braintorch> mnaines: lucky
[01:51] <darkham> please help?
[01:51] <mnaines> braintorch: It is because I did a clean install
[01:52] <Hillshum> How do I make a USB stick with the 11.2 RC?
[01:52] <Ben64> stone1343: that's fine. good to know someone else with this netbook has it working
[01:52] <heylala> Black_Phantom: and it spins up and then doesn't boot?
[01:52] <Recursive> I'm upgrading to Karmic; in the process, it gave me a list of packages that are no longer supported. Some of these, like gcc 4.3, I'm guessing are due to newer versions' availability. Is that the case for all of them? Or is Canonical dropping support for major functionality?
[01:52] <mnaines> braintorch: If you watch the conversations in this room long enough, you will see why I recommend a clean install
[01:52] <Ben64> stone1343: btw, UNR or regular Ubuntu?
[01:52] <syk> i get this error when i try to update my sources.list http://paste.ubuntu.com/304709/
[01:52] <Black_Phantom> heylala, yes then it switched to LAN booting then goes back to HDD
[01:52] <stone1343> ben64 working and loving it! UNR
[01:52] <sweetandy> Recursive: That would be evil. Gcc'll still be around.
[01:52] <Ben64> cool, thx for the info
[01:52] <Hillshum> Nevermind, wrong channel
[01:52] <stone1343> ben64 goodluck
[01:52] <dksoba88> in 9.10 is there a menu.lst?
[01:52] <heylala> Recursive: I just asked the same thing. I had one upgrade that borked my system. I'm taking a chance and doing it again
[01:52] <dooglus> Recursive: they're just all packages you no longer need.
[01:53] <Recursive> sweetandy, I know that, I'm wondering what's the meaning of all the other packages
[01:53] <SeaPhor> Whitor, did u run the update mgr after doing the upgrade of sources ?
[01:53] <Andorin> Will the software in the "Software Center" that's marked as "not available in the current data" soon become available for download?
[01:53] <braintorch> mnaines: i'm too. And when I upgraded from 9.04 to beta there wasn't those messages
[01:53] <Mike_lifeguard> netrat: who might have guessed!? use torrents!
[01:53] <dooglus> Recursive: they're stuff that 'apt-get autoremove' would remove if you ran it
[01:53] <Recursive> dooglus, OK thanks
[01:53] <Whitor> SeaPhor, yeah, thats where I looked, they are indeed enabled
[01:53] <mickster04> dksoba88, nmope
[01:53] <mickster04> dksoba88, nope
[01:53] <Pooky1> aight im bouncing good night or day guys and gals !
[01:53] <jayferd> Hey I think my request got buried.  Can somebody point me in the right direction? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/304705/
[01:53] <dave_atl> just upgraded server to 9.10 - mysql5.1 caused a few problems but it is now up and running
[01:53] <mnaines> braintorch: Well, I haven't had any problems, but then again, I tend to leave my machine running all the time
[01:53] <LiteHedded> can someone tell me why my screensaver doesn't come on when i lock my screen?
[01:53] <darkham> are this ati-driver-installer-9-3-x86.x86_64 karmic compatibles?
[01:53] <ProfOak> Is karmic running smoothly for anyone?
[01:53] <Whitor> SeaPhor, yes I did
[01:54] <corden> guys what's the official checksum of 9.10? just need to confirm my download tnx.
[01:54] <dooglus> ProfOak: not bad for me
[01:54] <dksoba88> mickster04, ic... any website you can recommend on modify the grub boot menu?
[01:54] <mickster04> ProfOak, yeah
[01:54] <mnaines> ProfOak: Its running seamlessly for me
[01:54] <dave_atl> ProfOak - working for m
[01:54] <swufty> netbook remix running smooth here on an acer aspire one
[01:54] <Black_Phantom> heylala any idea ?
[01:54] <SeaPhor> Whitor, look at System>Admin..>Hardware Drivers
[01:54] <stone1343> litehedded cuz locking the screen isn't the same as starting the screensaver
[01:54] <mickster04> dksoba88, the grub websote has loads of info regarding grub 2
[01:54] <dksoba88> mickster04, I found some 10_linux 00_header... etc files but they don't really seem to be intuitive
[01:54] <dooglus> corden: depends on the architecture and whether it's the desktop, netbook, etc. version
[01:54] <heylala> Black_Phantom: No actually. Try searching with your model number for any info.
[01:54] <Mike_lifeguard> corden: Can you not find them yourself? It really isn't that hard!
[01:54] <Whitor> SeaPhor, empty
[01:54] <ProfOak> Strange, it's giving me a bunch of gui glitches
[01:54] <LiteHedded> when i locked the screen in the past the screensaver would come on
[01:54] <TecnoBrat> Anyone know how to move the notifications (libnotify?) in 9.10?
[01:54] <stone1343> litehedded you need to wait for the screensave to come on
[01:55] <DB42> http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/file?info_hash=EolYj%1C%AF%3Bt%0E%B5%95%82%89b%5BJR%04%29 <-- why isn't this torrent working for me ? utorrent says it's an invalid file (ubuntu-9.10-dvd-amd64.iso) is there another link for that .torrent ?
[01:55] <Hillshum> Trying to start both vlc and Vbox gives me a bus error. Anyone know why?
[01:55] <corden> i been looking for it
[01:55] <mickster04> ProfOak, i am using an asus 900
[01:55] <SeaPhor> Whitor, so u have all updates...
[01:55] <Guest84455> does any one have a thinkpad here? using the ultranav to scroll ?
[01:55] <BuggerMe> i ain't even got no sound
[01:55] <c3l_> I just installed 9.10 and i accidentally klicked "skip" in the installation process. What was it that I skipped? :(
[01:55] <Whitor> SeaPhor, apparently
[01:55] <stone1343> litehedded logging out just puts up a login prompt
[01:55] <corden> ok ill look for it
[01:55] <FireCrotch> TecnoBrat: I believe here's a gconf key for it, and you can only move it left and right
[01:55] <jamieleshaw> Hello, any news on the Karmic compatinilty tester
[01:55] <Black_Phantom> heylala, do you I shall report it as a bug ? maybe they can give me a solution?
[01:55] <jayferd> anyone? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/304705/
[01:55] <LiteHedded> im not logging out
[01:55] <mikechelen> dksoba88, "startupmanager" package is helpful
[01:55] <Black_Phantom> think*
[01:55] <LiteHedded> i'm locking the screen
[01:55] <netrat> c3l_: probably the media test
[01:55] <SeaPhor> Whitor, so u have all updates...did the updates require a reboot? if so did you?
[01:55] <dooglus> c3l_: teh spellchekcer?
[01:56] <stone1343> litehedded what do you mean locking the screen then?
[01:56] <Mike_lifeguard> !torrent | DB42
[01:56] <TecnoBrat> FireCrotch: hmmm cause in 9.10 its lower than it was in 9.04, and kinda annoys me ....
[01:56] <LiteHedded> ctrl alt L
[01:56] <mnaines> SeaPhor: I didn't have to update 9.10 after I installed it
[01:56] <ashley__> anyone know a good window manager for running multiple displays?
[01:56] <Elias_> goodnight channel and especially, big thanks to Plugh for answering my XFree86 questions
[01:56] <dksoba88> mikechelen, thanks...
[01:56] <maggot_brain> !torrents
[01:56] <c3l_> netrat nothing important then?
[01:56] <ripps> darkham: don't install ati drivers from the manufacter, use the one's included in the repos or those in the ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates ppa
[01:56] <Elias_> if you ever feel like a beer man give me a holler :)
[01:56] <Plugh> Night, Elias_
[01:56] <Whitor> SeaPhor, I'll try another just to be safe
[01:56] <c3l_> dooglus, would it be possible to run that part of the installation again? ;p
[01:56] <choronzon> I downloaded the alternate cd and I'm trying to upgrade using it, but it is downloading some stuff from the servers, wasn't it supposed not to do that?
[01:56] <netrat> c3l_: no probabaly not
[01:56] <Plugh> Sure thing (although I'm not a beer drinker)
[01:56] <stone1343> litehedded brb
[01:56] <FireCrotch> TecnoBrat: I could be wrong about being able to move it left to right only... but I'm pretty sure that its still a gconf key
[01:56] <LiteHedded> ok
[01:56] <jayferd> okay, i guess i'll go elsewhere...
[01:56] <dooglus> c3l_: I wuz jokeing.  you don't need to run it
[01:56] <Lint> can you recommend me some mediaplayer with music library?
[01:57] <dooglus> Lint: rhythmbox?
[01:57] <Lars_G> Hal is not detecting my lid close, and it did on 9.04 :( sigh
[01:57] <mickster04> anybody gettin odd battery alert and info problems?
[01:57] <johnboker> burning cd now, hopefully this time it'll work...
[01:57] <Lars_G> So it's probably a kernel change
[01:57] <Lint> dooglus, obviously not
[01:57] <maggot_brain> Lint: Decibel Audio Player is what I use
[01:57] <c3l_> dooglus, ah oke, ty=)
[01:57] <darkham> ripps
[01:57] <darkham> ok
[01:57] <johnboker> it's going to take forever getting it back to the way i had things.
[01:57] <dooglus> Lint: why not?  it's a mediaplayer with a music library
[01:57] <TecnoBrat> FireCrotch: I'll see what I can dig up
[01:58] <Black_Phantom> is there any other way of installing ubuntu rather than booting from the BIOS ?
[01:58] <Lint> dooglus, because it's junk and its developers are scumbags?
[01:58] <stone1343> litehedded dunno, i'm using netboot remix, lock screen doesn't do anything for me
[01:58] <mickster04> Black_Phantom, what do you mean?
[01:58] <dooglus> Lint: ah, right.  amaroK then?
[01:58] <LiteHedded> bummer
[01:58] <dksoba88> mikechelen, how can I remove items from the boot menu...?
[01:58] <Darckengel> Anyone available to help me on my Flash problem?
[01:58] <LiteHedded> stone1343: thanks anyway
[01:58] <Lint> I need something that works?
[01:58] <mnaines> For all those who want to check out a book on Ubuntu, I would recommend "The Official Ubuntu Book", written by top contributors to the Ubuntu project.  It covers Ubuntu, Ubuntu Server, Kubuntu, Edubuntu, common problems and troubleshooting issues, command line stuff, and installation issues
[01:58] <Whitor> SeaPhor, Reboot was all it took. Thanks!
[01:58] <mickster04> Darckengel, yes
[01:58] <Black_Phantom> mickster04, like am seriously facing troubles regarding booting the 9.10 cd
[01:58] <dooglus> Lint: itunes?
[01:58] <stone1343> litehedded np sry
[01:58] <sabayonweb_48723> how do i upgrade to ubuntu studio ?
[01:58] <Roasted> I just installed karmic. My two backup drives, which are identical 250gb drives, are showing up as nvidia_raid_member when I run sudo blkid. I cant mount these drives. What happened to them??
[01:58] <netrat> dksoba88: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:58] <xdemo> hi, im about to install 64bit karmic, if i simply delete the current ubuntu partitions will my windows vista still be bootable within grub2?
[01:58] <Black_Phantom> mickster04, from the BIOS
[01:59] <SeaPhor> Whitor, so you're good ?
[01:59] <diofeher> heeeeey,  where's the menu.list file of grub? i don't found it
[01:59] <Andisu> how to i add a route for internet using gateway 192.168.0.1/24 ?
[01:59] <mickster04> Black_Phantom, well u could try the usb? boot everything boots from the bios?
[01:59] <mikh37> hello
[01:59] <dksoba88> netrat, 9.10 doesn't have that
[01:59] <sweetandy> diofeher: /boot/grub/menu.1st
[01:59] <diofeher> heeeeey,  where's the menu.list file of grub? i don't found it in 9.10 karmic ://
[01:59] <Whitor> SeaPhor, Yep I'm good. thanks again
[01:59] <Black_Phantom> mickster04 yes
[01:59] <sabayonweb_48723> how do i upgrade to ubuntu studio from xfce edition ?
[01:59] <stone1343> sabayonweb_48723 just add the package in synaptic, i've done it before
[01:59] <SeaPhor> Whitor, no prob,,,
[01:59] <bpun> anybody here know about exfat and if ubuntu is working on something for it?
[01:59] <dooglus> rhythmbox works ok for me.  I've not met its deveopers, so can't say whether they're scumbags or not, but if the software's ok I don't really care.
[01:59] <Recursive> Is there any easy and supported way to upgrade to Karmic with Bittorrent other than torrenting the ISO and reinstalling?
[01:59] <Black_Phantom> mickster04 I think the problem will presist since its not detecting the data as bootable !
[01:59] <Andisu> how to i add a route for internet using gateway 192.168.0.1/24 ?
[02:00] <diofeher> sweetandy: i know the path.. but this file doesn't exist here ://
[02:00] <mickster04> Black_Phantom, well theres a problem with ur disk?
[02:00] <Flannel> Recursive: torrent the alternate CD and upgrade
[02:00] <dooglus> Recursive: no.  if you're using bittorrent, you'll be downloading the whole ISO
[02:00] <netrat> Andisu: route add default gw 192.168.0.1
[02:00] <mikh37> I'm new in ubuntu and linux in general; I was trying to install vlc but then got an error while changing somethng in synaptic
[02:00] <Black_Phantom> mickster04, now I burned it 3 times and md5sum are perfect, and I tried the alternative cd but still the same problem
[02:00] <Lint> it's not ok, you cannot rename songs in the library
[02:00] <dooglus> Recursive: you could use the update-manager to upgrade your existing install, but it won't use bittorrent to do so
[02:00] <mikh37> can someone help me, please_
[02:00] <mikh37> ?
[02:00] <jiohdi> ok, what am I missing... 9.10 has no support for flash video, no support for flv and mp4 files?
[02:00] <CopyWriter> hey guys i'm downloading now, is 9.10 an lts release
[02:00] <lstarnes> ChogyDan: no
[02:00] <mickster04> Black_Phantom, you  could try a wubi install?
[02:00] <Ben64> CopyWriter: no
[02:00] <stone1343> copywriter no
[02:01] <lstarnes> ChogyDan: lts releases are ever 2 years (or 4 releases)
[02:01] <xdemo> does anyone know if i can reinstall ubuntu while keeping my vista partition? im switching from 32bit to 64bit karmic, and wondering if grub/grub2 will conflict
[02:01] <axisys> how do I install flash? i am using 64bit ubuntu desktop
[02:01] <Recursive> dooglus, are they going to support this at some point? It wants to download 1.6 GB of packages and the Ubuntu servers are soooo sloooow.
[02:01] <mickster04> have u tried booting whatever u have normally then inserting the disk
[02:01] <Whitor> mikh37, most likely, just ask your question
[02:01] <dooglus> Lint: I've not tried.  I've been able to rename the albums and artists of songs.  not tried editing the song names.
[02:01] <Roasted> I just installed karmic. My two backup drives, which are identical 250gb drives, are showing up as nvidia_raid_member when I run sudo blkid. I cant mount these drives. What happened to them??
[02:01] <lstarnes> ChogyDan: tentatively, the next LTS is 10.04
[02:01] <Ben64> next LTS is 10.04
[02:01] <Black_Phantom> mickster04, I need it as an OS, not a software inside Windows
[02:01] <ChogyDan> lstarnes: wrong person mate
[02:01] <lstarnes> ChogyDan: oops.
[02:01] <CopyWriter> oh... when is that going to be out
[02:01] <ChogyDan> :p
[02:01] <mickster04> Black_Phantom, its is bootable
[02:01] <dooglus> Recursive: go to 'software sources' and tell if to pick the 'best server'.  it'll find a non-ubuntu one that's faster.
[02:01] <qwyeth> CopyWriter, in 10/04 :D
[02:01] <lstarnes> CopyWriter: no, but 9.10 can be upgraded to 10.04
[02:01] <Ben64> 10.04 = 2010,04 = April, 2010
[02:01] <Black_Phantom> mickster04 it is, It booted successfully on my desktop, but it wont on my Toshiba Satellite
[02:01] <Edson`> How come when I put my flash drive in my PC while on Ubuntu, Ubuntu never reads it?
[02:02] <dooglus> Recursive: or just wait 24h and the ubuntu servers will be faster again
[02:02] <dooglus> today they seem to be slow for some reason.  perhaps planetary alignment or something, idk
[02:02] <mickster04> Black_Phantom, have u updated that bios ever?
[02:02] <Lint> amarok will take 219 MB, is that fscking joke? Please, name me just one player with working media library
[02:02] <bpun> Edson`, cuse you suck?
[02:02] <lstarnes> dooglus: there was a huge release
[02:02] <Black_Phantom> mickster04, I dont think so
[02:02] <CopyWriter> lol, now i understand the numbering scheme
[02:02] <Recursive> dooglus, thanks for the tip about "best server", that should help
[02:02] <dooglus> lstarnes: that's one theory
[02:02] <axisys> do I install flashplugin-installer or flashplugin-nonfree ?
[02:02] <axisys> !flash
[02:02] <mickster04> Black_Phantom, are you sure ur bios allows booting off a disk?
[02:02] <CopyWriter> thanks guys
[02:02] <lstarnes> axisys: try -nonfree
[02:02] <bpun> axisys, flash sucks
[02:02] <bpun> lol
[02:03] <Black_Phantom> mickster04, I think the problem is from ubuntu ?? since its booting every other cd including other ubuntu versions
[02:03] <jayrox> I need help installing 9.10 netbook remix...
[02:03] <axisys> lstarnes: thanks
[02:03] <qwyeth> axisys, flash worked fine in my upgrade but it failed after a clean install
[02:03] <egaudet> what package is the jar binary in?
[02:03] <Black_Phantom> mickster04, except 9.10
[02:03] <axisys> qwyeth: i am on 64 bit .. are you same too ?
[02:03] <mickster04> Black_Phantom, well if it has worked on the other pc...?
[02:03] <stone1343> jayrox what help, i'm running UNR
[02:03] <qwyeth> axisys, for that reason I'll be trying nonfree... tell me if it works for you
[02:03] <trism> axisys: flashplugin-nonfree just points to flashplugin-installer
[02:03] <Black_Phantom> mickster04, yes
[02:03] <Roasted> I just installed karmic. My two backup drives, which are identical 250gb drives, are showing up as nvidia_raid_member when I run sudo blkid. I cant mount these drives. What happened to them??
[02:03] <xdemo> how do i ensure my windows partition is still bootable after wiping my current 9.04 ubuntu partitions and installing karmic into them?
[02:03] <axisys> bpun: i need that to watch hulu
[02:03] <qwyeth> trism, axisys:  Ack, I meant froo
[02:03] <qwyeth> *free
[02:04] <qwyeth> wow typos are out tonight
[02:04] <Lint> can you recommend me some mediaplayer with music library, not sh*t like rhythmbox and amarok?
[02:04] <blah569> On the "Upgrading to Ubuntu 9.10" page, it says that I must be using 9.04 to upgrade.  However, I'm using 9.10 Alpha 2.  Are you able to update from Alpha 2?
[02:04] <qwyeth> axisys, no, I'm 32bit
[02:04] <mnaines> xdemo: Does the Windows partition have its own MBR?
[02:04] <jayrox> I need help installing it haha... how did you make a bootable USB? the download is an iso file right
[02:04] <mickster04> Black_Phantom, what im saying is that its niether the fisk nor the laptop:P so its a problem i cant fix:/
[02:04] <xdemo> mbr?
[02:04] <sabayonweb_48723> 9.10 has some serious regressions on older hardware
[02:04] <CopyWriter> hey guys, what'd be the difference between an lts release and one like today 9.10
[02:04] <xdemo> its on the same hard disk
[02:04] <ripps> !final | blah569
[02:04] <mnaines> xdemo: Master Boot Record
[02:04] <stone1343> jayrox, you using windows now?
[02:04] <CopyWriter> !lts
[02:04] <xdemo> im not sure
[02:04] <Black_Phantom> mickster04, thats whats driving me insane ;/
[02:04] <Edson`> How come when I put my flash drive in my PC while on Ubuntu, Ubuntu never reads it?
[02:04] <dooglus> egaudet: sun-java6-bin maybe?
[02:04] <mickster04> CopyWriter, long term support
[02:04] <Black_Phantom> mickster04, do u think updating the BIOS might help ?
[02:05] <jayrox> no i have 2 laptops. one is my mini 9 using 9.04 unr. the other is windows based
[02:05] <Recursive> CopyWriter, the idea behind LTS is that some people don't have the time/resources to upgrade their install every 6 months
[02:05] <egaudet> dooglus, nope
[02:05] <stone1343> jayrox i'm using ubuntu, i use USB Startup Disk Creator
[02:05] <CopyWriter> does it use the same software like in a stable branch
[02:05] <dooglus> egaudet: sun-java6-jdk then?
[02:05] <mickster04> Black_Phantom, maybe, but seeing as the most revent thing that worked was the cd id argue that the laptop is not playing fair
[02:05] <jayrox> how did u use it? please help
[02:05] <xdemo> well, if i copy my current grub section, for booting windows... if karmic doesnt find vista, can i just add the few lines to the grub config?
[02:05] <Recursive> CopyWriter, yeah, it's just that it will get out of date; upgrades will only improve stability and not add features
[02:05] <Black_Phantom> mickster04, true
[02:05] <Recursive> mostly
[02:05] <johnboker> mnaines The graphical install with the cd has the whitescreen problem i've been experiencing too
[02:06] <tianna> ok
[02:06] <CopyWriter> got it
[02:06] <CopyWriter> thanks guys
[02:06] <mnaines> xdemo: When people want to dual-boot, I recommend only plugging in one drive at a time when installing the operating systems.  Plug in one drive, install Windows, unplug that and plug in the second drive then install Ubuntu, then plug in the first drive.  This way, both of them will have their own master boot record.  Grub will see that and ask you which drive to boot into at startup.
[02:06] <qwyeth> I'm seriously looking forward to 10.04 LTS because so much progress has been made since '08
[02:06] <tianna> so i need help i am cconfused when trying to download adobe flash player
[02:06] <SJr> What should I do with this Warty Warthog machine?
[02:06] <lstarnes> tianna: are you using the flashplugin-nonfree package?
[02:06] <egaudet> sun-java6-jdk wants to install 6-16-0ubuntu1.9.04, which errors.  I'm using 9.10
[02:06] <pasteeater> is it possible to choose a repository before or during installation?  i'm using the alternate disc.
[02:06] <CopyWriter> !restricted
[02:07] <lstarnes> SJr: backup and install a newer relkease
[02:07] <dooglus> tianna: just use synaptic to install package 'flashplugin-nonfree' ?
[02:07] <Recursive> Yay ~800 kb/s down from package server, thanks dooglus
[02:07] <lstarnes> *release
[02:07] <qwyeth> mnaines, couldn't you just switch the boot order in the bios before each install?
[02:07] <dooglus> Recursive: you're very welcome
[02:07] <jayrox> ok i think i found out what i was doing wrong thanx though
[02:07] <tianna> see thats the problem i dont kow whta that is
[02:07] <lstarnes> tianna: look in system > administration > synaptic package manager
[02:07] <tianna> where is synaptic first of all
[02:07] <dooglus> Recursive: that server may be a little behind the *.ubuntu.com ones, but it's worth it for the extra speed
[02:07] <mickster04> anybody getting odd battery alert and info problems?
[02:07] <mnaines> qwyeth: This way is better because you don't need to change the BIOS settings at all, and I do not recommend changing BIOS settings unless you know what you're doing.
[02:07] <lstarnes> tianna: search for flashplugin-nonfree
[02:07] <dooglus> tianna: in system > administration menu
[02:07] <Darckengel> I need assistance with flash as well.
[02:08] <lstarnes> tianna: right-click on it, mark for installation, then apply changes
[02:08] <dooglus> lstarnes: tianna can't find 'synaptic'
[02:08] <mnaines> qwyeth: Plus, this way, if one drive fails, you can still boot up and recover the data off the other drive
[02:08] <Darckengel> I know this sounds weird, but my friends and I play HabboHotel at our work... in out free time of course, and it's laggy for me on my Acer Aspire One.
[02:08] <qwyeth> mnaines, see, I'm the opposite; I would rather my users not be pulling around cables unless they knew what they were doing :D
[02:08] <tianna> i caznt its not in system
[02:08] <lstarnes> dooglus: I pointed to its exact location
[02:08] <lstarnes> dooglus: oh
[02:08] <Darckengel> Any suggestions?
[02:09] <mnaines> qwyeth: Hardware is a lot harder for a beginner user to mess up than firmware and software are
[02:09] <Darckengel> I've tried converting back to the F9 drivers, r48 and the other one.
[02:09] <dooglus> lstarnes: so I see - it's hard keeping up when it's scrolling this fast...
[02:09] <Darckengel> I'm current on SwiftFox which seems to make browsing easier, but no affect on Flash.
[02:09] <Roasted> QUESTION - I have 4 drives in my system. I did a manual partitioning. I set up my first 2 drives just fine. My 2nd two I left alone to deal with later. I DID NOT FORMAT THEM. The file system becamecorrupt, according to GParted. Why in the world did installing 9.10 corrupt the file system on 2 of my 4 drives when I didn't make any settings changeds to those drives?
[02:09] <tianna> what is /bin /sh
[02:10] <qwyeth> mnaines, it's also a lot less convenient when the user *does* mess it up
[02:10] <dooglus> tianna: /bin/sh is a command shell
[02:10] <lstarnes> tianna: /bin/sh is a shell or command line
[02:10] <tianna> ok it says it need this
[02:10] <xdemo> can i post screenshot links in here?
[02:10] <dooglus> tianna: but you shouldn't need to know that.  why do you ask?
[02:10] <Darckengel> Roasted : Are they setup on a RAID?
[02:10] <tianna> but what command
[02:10] <lstarnes> tianna: it should be part of an ubuntu install
[02:10] <tianna> it told me that
[02:10] <mnaines> qwyeth: Yes, but guys like me who are hardware gurus can help them so that doesn't happen
[02:10] <johnboker> about ready to just install windows 7
[02:10] <lstarnes> tianna: /bin/sh
[02:10] <dooglus> tianna: it's like the "DOS Prompt" (cmd.txt) thing on windows
[02:10] <tianna> it is for adobe install packages
[02:10] <tianna> yes i know
[02:10] <seth__> I'm having a weird issue: I am running ubuntu J on my home desktop computer.  I am the only user set up on the computer.  Earlier today, I tried to open a large pdf file (in adobe reader) on my relatively old computer.  This took a long time and slowed things down immensely.  I ended up having to restart the computer by turning off and on the power bar.  Here's where things get weird: now, after starting up, the syst
[02:10] <seth__> em runs fine.  After a few minutes though, the system slows down immensely.  When I try to restart properly, it asks me for my administrative password since it says 'another user is logged in' (even though I am the only user on the computer).  This happens each time I restart the computer.  What the fuck is going on?
[02:10] <lstarnes> tianna: don't use adobe's installer
[02:10] <dooglus> you have /bin/sh already
[02:10] <FloodBot1> seth__: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:10] <tianna> ok
[02:10] <Darckengel> Flash just doesn't work well at all on Linux.. so yeah.
[02:11] <lstarnes> tianna: use sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[02:11] <Roasted> darckengel - No, theyre not. Which confuses me because sudo blkid says nvidia-raid-member. I have no idea why....
[02:11] <mike999> I'm having an issue in trying to install ubuntu 9.10 as it says not enough room on /boot. I went into Synaptics and removed all the extra kernel headers anything I can do to increase space on /boot ?
[02:11] <tianna> where do i start?
[02:11] <mattwj2002> !slow
[02:11] <lstarnes> Darckengel: it works pretty well with the official linux version
[02:11] <mickster04> johnboker, its not as bad as vista
[02:11] <lstarnes> tianna: type that in a terminal
[02:11] <tianna> where though durlin
[02:11] <xdemo> http://i35.tinypic.com/4g24vo.png   /dev/sda3 is my current 9.04 , and i need to know, when i install karmic... can i just simply format sda3 to ext4 and install karmic in the empty space?
[02:11] <johnboker> mickster04 yeah, i have windows 7  at work and like it
[02:11] <Lint> why am I asked for password while opening my drives in Places bar?
[02:11] <lstarnes> tianna: applications > accessories > terminal
[02:12] <mnaines> xdemo: I did that and had no problems
[02:12] <Darckengel> Flash is epic slow for me, even though I've already tried all the work arounds and I'm running Xubuntu.
[02:12] <Lint> how can I swith it off?
[02:12] <Recursive> query ubotto
[02:12] <lstarnes> Lint: it might require root/superuser permissions
[02:12] <qwyeth> lstarnes, which version would that be?
[02:12] <mickster04> Lint, cos to mount them u have to have permission
[02:12] <xdemo> ok, so windows will automatically be detected on grub2?
[02:12] <lstarnes> qwyeth: which version of what?
[02:12] <seth__> Anyone able to help me?  This issue is really screwing me over right now
[02:12] <mickster04> xdemo, in theory
[02:12] <mnaines> xdemo: Um...Only if you dual-boot the way I told you earlier
[02:12] <xdemo> ok thankyou. but if it isnt, i can manually add a grub entry for it though?
[02:12] <tianna> so i type the sudo thing in here
[02:13] <lstarnes> tianna: in the teeminal window
[02:13] <lstarnes> *terminal
[02:13] <qwyeth> lstarnes, you mean flash works well in karmic?  mine works after an upgrade, but my clean install hasn't been so clean with flash
[02:13] <Lint> in Hardy I've been not asked for it. Why the hell it's broken now?
[02:13] <lstarnes> qwyeth: if you're asking which version of flash I am using, I am using adobe's official 32-bit build of flash 10 for linux through ndiswrapper
[02:13] <mnaines> xdemo: Yes, but I do not know anything about GRUB so I cannot help you with the entries
[02:13] <egaudet> Does anyone know how to get jar binary or other jar extraction in 9.10
[02:13] <lstarnes> Lint: what are you using now?
[02:13] <juststopedforcou> Acer AO751h is very slow. Just installed 9.10 remix. Anyone able to help?
[02:13] <Lint> karmic
[02:13] <comicinker> seth__: sounds strange
[02:13] <tianna> command not found
[02:13] <qwyeth> *blinks*
[02:13] <xrandr> ok, what could cause me to have to constantly reboot to get sound working? sometimes it works in the beginning, then just fails. Songbird says my gstreamer is missing a plugin. ideas on what that could be?
[02:13] <lstarnes> Lint: karmic isn't hardy, so expect things to be different
[02:13] <seth__> I know.  And I have an assignment due tomorrow so I really need my computer working
[02:14] <LinuX2half> I'm having trouble upgrading my ubuntu operating system
[02:14] <lstarnes> tianna: what command did you type in?
[02:14] <Lint> lstarnes, would you please stop trolling please?
[02:14] <tianna> sudo flashplugion-nonfree the one you gave me earlier word for word though
[02:14] <mnaines> LinuX2half: I would recommend doing a clean install, not an upgrade.  There are too many issues with upgrading.
[02:14] <LinuX2half> When the program is fetching packages the program closed saying that the upgrade can't be installed
[02:14] <lstarnes> Lint: that is not trolling
[02:14] <comicinker> seth__: do you have adobe reader still running?
[02:14] <Cyboth> hey guys, am I the only one experiencing problems with installing Ubuntu 9.10 Netbook Remix? from the boot, I select Install Ubuntu Netbook Remix, I see the ubuntu logo and then my screen goes black (I have an Aspire One)
[02:14] <Darckengel> juststopedforcho : Try Xubuntu.
[02:15] <LinuX2half> mnaines: clean install?
[02:15] <Darckengel> XFCE is way faster than GNOME, although less customizable.
[02:15] <seth__> doesn't look like it... unless it is being run by some 'other user'
[02:15] <hans_> Hy everibody!
[02:15] <lstarnes> Lint: does it look like the normal "run as admin" applet?
[02:15] <tianna> now it says it is not allowed to execute as a root on local host
[02:15] <Recursive> LinuX2half, that means making an install disk and reinstalling Ubuntu
[02:15] <mnaines> LinuX2half: Meaning delete 9.04, reformat into ext4 and install 9.10
[02:15] <dooglus> what's the fastest desktop environment?  xfce4?  fluxbox?  what?
[02:15] <comicinker> seth__: check with ps ax | grep acro
[02:15] <Deathvalley122> well the upgrade is nice but the sound driver sounds a bit crappy
[02:15] <Darckengel> XFCE4
[02:16] <Lint> it's called 'Authorization required' and it's asking for my user password
[02:16] <xdemo> i'd say fluxbox  dooglus
[02:16] <hans_> I have a strange problem, but maybe I'm just stupid...
[02:16] <Recursive> dooglus, there are many different DE's out there
[02:16] <dooglus> Recursive: I know, but which is fastest?
[02:16] <Recursive> all with varying speed's/usabilities
[02:16] <seth__> Sorry.  I'm a relative beginner.  What does that mean exactly/how do I do that
[02:16] <qwyeth> dooglus, fluxbox is very fast, but xmonad is probably faster
[02:16] <dooglus> Recursive: on a low RAM box
[02:16] <juststopedforcou> hans: go for it :)
[02:16] <tianna> how do i access my files through linux to get them from windows?
[02:16] <jjrev> dooglus: xfce, fluxbox, openbox, awesome, etc.
[02:16] <mnaines> I cannot answer any questions about DE speed because I have too much RAM on a quad-core machine to get an accurate measurement of speed
[02:16] <seme> is anyone else having issues downloading apps on 9.10?
[02:16] <xtsuname> is there a channel here that help people on logic questions?
[02:16] <mattwj2002> man the mirrors are slllooowww
[02:16] <LinuX2half> Delete 9.04? How do I even delete it?
[02:16] <seme> I don't know why but it appears that downloads are really slow
[02:16] <qwyeth> dooglus, when you get down to DEs that are that small and trim, you start giving up major features in favor of speed
[02:17] <Royall> come on, magic 2111
[02:17] <jjrev> seme: possibly the servers are busy with all the installs?
[02:17] <xtsuname> LinuX2half, sudo rm -rf /
[02:17] <LinuX2half> There will be no operating system
[02:17] <lstarnes> seme: the mirrors are being slow right not due to hundreds of users installing ubuntu 9.10
[02:17] <mnaines> LinuX2half: Download the 9.10 ISO then boot from the CD and install that way
[02:17] <lstarnes> !danger
[02:17] <xdemo> LinuX2half, use gparted in liveCD mode, if you want to keep existing partitions
[02:17] <comicinker> seth__: see pm
[02:17] <dooglus> qwyeth: I don't really want major features.  I just want to be able to run a web browser & emacs quickly
[02:17] <dooglus> qwyeth: and switch between them
[02:17] <tianna> ?
[02:17] <Cyboth> hey guys, am I the only one experiencing problems with installing Ubuntu 9.10 Netbook Remix? from the boot, I select Install Ubuntu Netbook Remix, I see the ubuntu logo and then my screen goes black (I have an Aspire One)
[02:17] <tianna> no help
[02:18] <lstarnes> tianna: use sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[02:18] <lstarnes> tianna: you can use the ntfs-3g package to mount windows drives
[02:18] <tianna> ok i did it is not allowed on a root
[02:18] <dooglus> I wonder if anyone can tell me a way to get the photos off my Sony Erisson phone onto my ubuntu 9.10 laptop?
[02:18] <tianna> what does that mean
[02:18] <Recursive> dooglus, go with something like openbox or something like that
[02:18] <qwyeth> dooglus: fluxbox would suit your needs, but xfce would probably be more comfortable for a casual user.  Give xfce a shot.  also consider LXDE
[02:18] <lstarnes> tianna: what was the exact reply message?
[02:18] <anom01y> is there any way I can get gotomeeting to work in Linux ?
[02:18] <Recursive> dooglus, I personally like LXDE
[02:18] <anom01y> or is there an alternative ?
[02:18] <dooglus> my current method involves using WinXP to copy them onto a memory stick, then using the memory stick to move them here
[02:18] <dooglus> but that's obviously sub-optimal
[02:18] <tianna> not allowed to execute as a root local host local domain
[02:19] <Hillshum> dooglus: I'd take LXDE over XFCE
[02:19] <Recursive> dooglus, it's not completely barebones, it has the minimum features you expect without bloat
[02:19] <dooglus> I use XFCE atm
[02:19] <hans_> So: I have GPARTED installd on my machine, but I don't find it anywhere... Not at the Applications menu. Yes I'v checked the 'Edit menus', but nowhere... Is there something I do not notice? I'd really need to chop my partitions, because I have tot t
[02:19] <Morbrorfultjack> test
[02:19] <OmiKrOn> hi *
[02:19] <hans_> test encription in windows but dont have partittion
[02:19] <OmiKrOn> how to switch mirrors in apt?
[02:19] <dooglus> never heard of LXDE, but will give it a go
[02:19] <juststopedforcou> Cyboth I am having soooo much problems with 9.10 on AO5751h too. Try to load it and then start installation. That's what I did, cause my AO was freezing all the time.
[02:19] <hans_> and windows sins a while :_)
[02:19] <dooglus> OmiKrOn: use the 'software sources' tool
[02:19] <ChogyDan> hans_: it is under the Adminstration menu as Partition Editor
[02:20] <tianna> well thank you anyway darling i know it is probably frustrating,,
[02:20] <tianna> good night
[02:20] <ripps> hans_: restart gnome-panel and try looking again, I think it get put in system->administration
[02:20] <OmiKrOn> dooglus: how do I do that in text mode?
[02:20] <Lint> ok so what should I do to mount my own drives without password?
[02:20] <dooglus> OmiKrOn: in text mode I would just "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list"
[02:20] <preecher> i was using enlightenment (e17) in u9.04--anyone kno if it will work in 9.10
[02:20] <hans_> ripps ::: doing now...
[02:21] <OmiKrOn> dooglus: ok so where can I find new mirrors?
[02:21] <lstarnes> Lint: which filesystems are being used on the drives?
[02:21] <CopyWriter> it's so incredible how much i'm able to multitask using ubuntu
[02:21] <LinuX2half> how do I upgrade using the terminal?
[02:21] <scratchme> Hi all.  I was reading about the Ubuntu Enterprise Cloud (UEC) and I couldn't find if Windows VMs could be added to the system in any way.
[02:21] <ASrock> hey, im using ubuntu netbook remix 9.10 beta and when i try to use synaptic package manager to install progrms it can only get some packages but not others
[02:21] <rivercityransom> Guys I'm trying to recover data from a previous broken installation before formatting and installing karmic. It's telling me I do not have the permission to access the files.
[02:21] <Cyboth> juststopedforcou, tryed that even loading it won't work
[02:21] <Recursive> LinuX2half, man apt
[02:21] <Lint> lstarnes, fat16 and ntfs
[02:21] <rivercityransom> Using a live cd btw
[02:21] <CopyWriter> kinda take it for granted since i've not been using windows for a while
[02:21] <Recursive> LinuX2half, err, scratch that, try man aptitude
[02:21] <vingian> hello folks - trying ubuntu 9.10
[02:21] <dooglus> OmiKrOn: I'm not sure, but http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors#mirrors is a good starting point maybe?
[02:21] <Recursive> or man apt-get
[02:21] <xal> Hi
[02:22] <vingian> and i just installed it on my laptop - and now whenever i boot into it - muy screen doesn't stop flickerin
[02:22] <juststopedforcou> Does anyone run 9.10 Remix on AO751h here? :)
[02:22] <xal> I just upgraded to 9.10. I'm having trouble with java. It crashes firefox with an error about rt.jar. I have searched and cannot find a solution.
[02:22] <mnaines> CopyWriter: I have been using Ubuntu since June and before that, I was a hard-core Windows user.  Ubuntu is so much faster and is easily capable of multitasking better than Windows
[02:22] <lstarnes> Lint: I forget which utility controls user access permissions
[02:22] <lstarnes> Lint: it might be something related to policykit
[02:22] <lstarnes> Lint: if you almost always have them mounted, consider adding them to /etc/fstab
[02:22] <CopyWriter> darn right
[02:23] <Black_Phantom> my laptop is detecting 9.10 as a blank cd !!
[02:23] <scratchme> mnaines, CopyWriter:  One thing I was looking for was nxserver or freenx server doing per application remoting, like VMWare unity, or seamlessRDP.
[02:23] <vingian> anyone have screen flickering with 9.10?
[02:23] <Niq2> hey does anyone else think that the Ubuntu Software Center is slow when installing packages?
[02:23] <mnaines> scratchme: What do you need it for?
[02:23] <lstarnes> Niq2: it is
[02:23] <DanaG> It does bug me that it asks me for password on eSATA drives.
[02:23] <vingian> Niq2: its probably just too many ppl upgrading
[02:24] <Niq2> ok, just making sure it's me
[02:24] <scratchme> mnaines, I want to run some apps on a different machine, but remote them to another one, without the standard "desktop" window.
[02:24] <mnaines> DanaG: You can change that
[02:24] <Whitor> Black_Phantom, Do any other CD's boot in this drive ?
[02:24] <Niq2> not me
[02:24] <LinuX2half> aptitude safe full upgrade?
[02:24] <lstarnes> Niq2: the mirrors are overloaded due to a lot of people upgrading
[02:24] <Niq2> well that's true
[02:24] <hans_> ChogyDan! It is there... Maybe a sleep would have beater result then partitioning at the moment. Thank you guys anyway! Good night to you all!
[02:24] <Black_Phantom> Whitor yes
[02:24] <lstarnes> Niq2: try again in a couple days
[02:24] <daleharvey> what happened to the fancy gnu screen ubuntu used to have?
[02:24] <Whitor> Black_Phantom, Have you checked recently ?
[02:24] <Niq2> well, I hope that's all it is then.
[02:24] <vingian> anyone?? screen flickering.????
[02:24] <daleharvey> like - http://junk.arandomurl.com/dev.png
[02:24] <Black_Phantom> Whitor checked that.. ?
[02:24] <xal2> I'm having trouble with java in 9.10. It crashes firefox everytime an applet starts. I am on x64
[02:24] <lstarnes> daleharvey: as in the terminal utility screen?
[02:24] <ripps> !details vingian
[02:25] <daleharvey> yeh
[02:25] <ripps> !details | vingian
[02:25] <dr3mro> me fix video aspect ratio on totem actors are tall
[02:25] <Wise-Guy> hi
[02:25] <Whitor> Black_Phantom, Have you checked that another CD will boot in the drive oyu are having troubles with ... ?
[02:25] <daleharvey> when I go into screen now its blank
[02:25] <Whitor> recently ...
[02:25] <dr3mro> plz help me fix video aspect ratio on totem actors are tall
[02:25] <DanaG> Take a look in /usr/share/polkit-1/actions
[02:25] <Statix138> Hello everyone
[02:25] <Black_Phantom> Whitor yes 50 seconds ago, it detected 8.10 and many other cds
[02:25] <Yos> what command can I type to see which programs are running ?
[02:25] <DanaG> there's a devicekit.disks thingy there.
[02:25] <dukz_> can i use the ubuntu-9.10-desktop-amd64.iso to upgrade my system instead of the alternate cd?
[02:25] <lstarnes> Yos: ps ax
[02:25] <Yos> ty
[02:25] <Black_Phantom> Whitor its not even detecting it in Windows or Ubuntu
[02:25] <Madpilot> dukz_, don't think so, sorry.
[02:25] <Whitor> Black_Phantom, Ok... just checking,
[02:25] <dksoba88> dukz_, also want to know the answer to this
[02:25] <Flannel> dukz_: No, if you want to "upgrade" with the desktop CD you need to reinstall
[02:25] <lstarnes> dukz_: you can use that for a clean installation, but not an in-place upgrade
[02:26] <Rolcol> How'd the servers handle the traffic from 9.10?
[02:26] <lstarnes> Rolcol: the mirrors are being slow
[02:26] <dukz_> aw shucks... ok
[02:26] <Whitor> Black_Phantom, maybe it's a bad burn ... ?
[02:26] <vingian> Just installed 9.10 on my laptop - and now I can't boot into it because my screen flickers like crazy...
[02:26] <CopyWriter> i'm not that good at virtualization
[02:26] <Rolcol> Bittorrent is perfect for this.
[02:26] <Black_Phantom> Whitor, no I burned 3 times and checked the md5sum, and tried the alternative cd
[02:26] <CopyWriter> don't quite understandit got to dedicate some time to reading
[02:26] <dooglus> I wonder if anyone can tell me a way to get the photos off my Sony Erisson phone onto my ubuntu 9.10 laptop?
[02:26] <Black_Phantom> Whitor nothing worked :( i have been working on this since 5 hours
[02:26] <dooglus> my current method involves using WinXP to copy them onto a memory stick, then using the memory stick to move them here
[02:26] <dr3mro> can any one plz help me fix my fn keys
[02:26] <Yos> To see which programs are running right now ?
[02:26] <ukill> picasa dont work from the google repository for ubuntu ....mmmmm
[02:27] <scratchme> Rolcol, I downloaded 9.10 from University of Utah, and it was about 500KB/sec, which wasn't too bad overall.
[02:27] <Wise-Guy> i was running ubuntu 8.04 and tried to upgrade to 8.10 and accidentally installed the server version and can get only a command prompt, no gui, and want to know how i can install ubuntu desktop version 8.10 instead, with a command prompt
[02:27] <lstarnes> Yos: ps ax
[02:27] <Whitor> Black_Phantom, wow, sounds frustrating
[02:27] <Yos> hmm
[02:27] <Yos> ok
[02:27] <dksoba88> dukz_, I know...the in place upgrade didn't complete since I started it early this morning... (more than 12 hours) and to make it worse, I got disconnected from the internet which means I have to restart the whole damn thing
[02:27] <lstarnes> Yos: that will list all currently operating processes
[02:27] <lstarnes> Yos: for system load and process activity, use top or htop
[02:27] <ChogyDan> dksoba88: no, I don't think you will
[02:27] <dooglus> dksoba88: it should continue where it left off
[02:28] <Voss_> scratchme, if I could get 500kb/sec id be happy :)
[02:28] <yofel> dooglus: I can copy pictures from my nokia phone over bluetooth in ubuntu
[02:28] <dksoba88> dooglus and ChogyDan, thank goodness
[02:28] <ChogyDan> Wise-Guy: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[02:28] <mnaines> Right now, I'm getting 500MB/sec download speeds, which is average, but still good for all the traffic on the mirrors
[02:28] <dksoba88> dooglus and ChogyDan, err... Ubuntu
[02:28] <scratchme> http://ubuntu.cs.utah.edu/releases/karmic/
[02:28] <dooglus> yofel: this laptop doesn't have bluetooth - but I have a USB cable
[02:28] <Wise-Guy> ChogyDan, ok thnx
[02:28] <mnaines> 500KB/sec*
[02:28] <dukz_> dksoba88: I'm gonna download the alternate CD instead... I think it's going to be more stable then.
[02:28] <millstone> I cannot set my resolution to anything above 1280x1040? What's wrong?
[02:28] <dooglus> yofel: the phone (and memory stick) should appear as mass storage devices - but don't
[02:28] <Voss_> I have 1.2 dsl, which winds up being about 153k per second
[02:28] <dksoba88> dukz_, diff between alternate and regular?
[02:29] <mnaines> Voss_: I have 15MB/sec cable
[02:29] <vingian> according to the syslog its X server which is having issues
[02:29] <vingian> but I can't even log into through the virtual consoles
[02:29] <Flannel> dksoba88: As relevant to this discussion: You can upgrade from the alternate (but it's not a live CD)
[02:29] <vingian> coz even the virtual consoles flicker
[02:29] <comicinker> what does it mean to be logged in on pts/0 ?
[02:29] <dukz_> dksoba88: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading <--- it says you use it for in place upgrading
[02:29] <dksoba88> Flannel, what's the disadvantage to alternate?
[02:29] <scratchme> Voss_, ahh, well I have Cable and it's only supposed to be 7Mbit down, 1 up, but I seem to be getting 15/2 instead.
[02:29] <DanaG> one nice mirrir: mirrors.kernel.org
[02:29] <markITman> my upgrade to 9.10 does nothing
[02:29] <Voss_> mnaines, u mean 15mbps
[02:29] <xal2> I'm having trouble with java in 9.10. It crashes firefox everytime an applet starts. I am on x64
[02:29] <Flannel> dksoba88: It's not a LiveCD
[02:30] <Lint> are the some gui fstab editor?
[02:30] <mnaines> Voss_: Yes...15 down 1.5 up
[02:30]  * DanaG has only 5 megabits down, 0.5 up.
[02:30] <vingian> xal2: what version of java plugin do you have?
[02:30] <xal2> 6
[02:30] <Voss_> mnaines I get about 1.2 mbps, uverse when it comes out will have 24 mbps
[02:30] <Flannel> dksoba88: Also, installation takes slightly longer than the desktop CD, because it's gotta go through and use dpkg to install each package, instead of just copying stuff to your disk.  But that's not terribly important.
[02:30] <dukz_> my plan is to put the iso content into a usb, and detect the packages from there then do the in place upgrade...
[02:30] <vingian> xal2: how'd you install it?
[02:30] <xal2> through apt-get
[02:30] <DragonMinded> So i've just upgraded to 9.10 and the "authenticate" window refuses to show guest as an authenticatable login.  how do i explicitly allow it in say gdmsetup where it says in console "explititly ignoring guest"
[02:31] <scratchme> Voss_, not to get too off-topic, but I'd love to get fiber optic service at this location ;)
[02:31] <vingian> xal2: try the sun jvm :)
[02:31] <dooglus> !info pysdm | Lint
[02:31] <xal2> that's what i installed
[02:31] <jfeole> xal2- can either do a about:plugins in Firefox, or type java -version in a terminal
[02:31] <xal2> sun-java-plugin
[02:31] <xal2> sun-java6-plugin*
[02:31] <Voss_> scratchme, well fiber would increase Ubuntu download speeds...(staying on topic)
[02:32] <MBD123> Will erasing ubuntu 9.04 cause me to lose any files or data?
[02:32] <dksoba88> Flannel, does it still have to download packages?
[02:32] <mnaines> MBD123: Yes, it will.  I recommend backing up all your files to a flash drive or other external drive before installing 9.10
[02:32] <Yos> I need to kill the distribution upgrade; what is the name of the app that I have to use killall ?
[02:32] <scratchme> MBD123, doesn't erasing by definition require the file be "lost" ?
[02:32] <Flannel> dksoba88: the majority of the packages are on the CD itself, it only needs to download what it doesn't have
[02:33] <dksoba88> Flannel, ic...awesome
[02:33] <qaengineer> test
[02:33] <xrandr> hmm. lets see if it fixed itself :)
[02:33] <xal2> vingian, so i installed sun-java6-plugin. isn't that from sun?
[02:33] <dksoba88> Flannel, and thank you.
[02:33] <ChogyDan> xal2: yes, was it the only java you installed?
[02:33] <scratchme> Anyone know if UEC + Windows server images is possible?
[02:33] <xal2> yes
[02:34] <ChogyDan> xal2: try to make sure: sudo update-java-alternatives -s java-6-sun
[02:34]  * xrandr is really starting to dislike ubuntu right now. Sound is not working :(
[02:34] <FFEMTcJ> Is anyone having problems trying to get 9.10 to dual boot, with win7 installed first?
[02:34] <xrandr> if i remove gstreamer, what happens?
[02:34] <mnaines> xrandr: I haven't had any problems
[02:34] <xal2> none listed
[02:35] <mnaines> FFEMTcJ: Does the Windows 7 partition have its own Master Boot Record?
[02:35] <ChogyDan> xrandr: have you tried gsreamer-properties?
[02:35] <rivercityransom> guys karmic is too fast for me. I can't keep up!
[02:35] <dksoba88> lol downloading 9.10-alternate w/torrent completely saturates my 10megabite connection...awesome
[02:35] <FFEMTcJ> mnaines: Probably.. I installed it.. Booted, made sure it worked, then did 9.10.. Now it still only boots to Win.. No options at all
[02:36] <scratchme> dksoba88, Oh noes, the RIAA will bust you for sharing free software ;)
[02:36] <mnaines> FFEMTcJ: Can you boot into Windows with only the Windows 7 drive plugged in?
[02:36] <xrandr> ChogyDan: what would this accomplish for me?
[02:36] <slayton> I love karmic!
[02:36] <FFEMTcJ> mnaines: its a laptop..
[02:36] <DanaG> 10 megabyte?
[02:36] <boomernang> Hi, using 9.10. How can I find information on ntfs partitions automatically mounted with the fresh install? There are no entries in /etc/fstab.
[02:37] <DanaG> 80 megabit?
[02:37] <dksoba88> scratchme, lmao... I'm always worried about stuff like that
[02:37] <rivercityransom> I'm on a live CD right now and it's even faster than my 9.04 HD installation.
[02:37] <DanaG> Where do you get such a godawful-fast connection?
[02:37] <FFEMTcJ> mnaines: cant dc the second drive
[02:37] <slayton> I am sooo surprised by how fast 9.10 boots up
[02:37] <mnaines> FFEMTcJ: So its two partitions on one drive?
[02:37] <slayton> its by far the best improvement I've seen since 7.04
[02:37] <DanaG> s/godawful/ungodly/
[02:37] <FFEMTcJ> Nope.. Two 80g drives
[02:37] <scratchme> DanaG, I have a co-located server that could probably get that if a server was near/in the datacenter.
[02:38] <scratchme> DanaG, but that wouldn't get the image to my house any faster.
[02:38] <mnaines> FFEMTcJ: Hmm...Well, you're going to run into problems if you cannot disconnect the drives before installing the operating systems
[02:38] <dksoba88> DanaG, 10 megaBIT... it'sa bout 1.25 megabytes/s. At UCSD I get about 12 megaBYTES/s... ridiculus. That was downloading an install file for AutoDesk Inventor...
[02:38] <FFEMTcJ> mnaines: is that something new with grub2? never had a problem before
[02:38] <dr3mro> can any one help me fix video aspect ratio on totem after fresh install 9.10
[02:38] <mnaines> FFEMTcJ: I always run into problems if I try to install multiple operating systems under a single master boot record
[02:39] <FFEMTcJ> ive never had a problem before.. but i dunno if grub2 has somethin to do with it?
[02:39] <dksoba88> scratchme, lol yea at school I transfer things from our cluster to my PC at 50 MBytes/s... when I need those files at home and I use my internet connection it seems soo slow
[02:40] <mnaines> FFEMTcJ: Could be.  I do not know much about GRUB and I do not dual-boot, so I cannot help much
[02:40] <ChogyDan> xrandr: did that help?  I lost connection
[02:40] <justin_> Hello - I'm on 9.10 Beta; how do I upgrade to 9.10 release *from the command line*?
[02:40] <xrandr> ChogyDan: nope. dont know what to do in there
[02:40] <ChogyDan> !final | justin_
[02:40] <EruditeHermit> hi, can anyone help me fix my boot process? It shows that dmraid is starting and .ck-history takes a long time. http://imagebin.org/69558 How do I stop dmraid from starting as I don't have raid
[02:40] <lstarnes> justin_: if your packages are up to date, then it should be the release version
[02:40] <justin_> ubottu: awesome, thanks
[02:41] <dr3mro> can any one help me fix video aspect ratio on totem after fresh install 9.10
[02:41] <formolQC> hi.  does anybody is able to update, upgrade or install applications with 9.10?  i'm not able to install anything (exept for the nvidia driver, it took 5 minutes to download)
[02:41] <mnaines> formolQC: I have not had any problems with 9.10
[02:41] <ChogyDan> xrandr: under sound > output, try out every setting till you hopefully get working sound
[02:41] <xrandr> ChogyDan: if i remove gstreamer, what happens?
[02:42] <gogeta> formolQC: use a diffrent mirror main ones will be overloaded
[02:42] <Lint> why the hell volume control app is not installed by default?
[02:42] <ChogyDan> xrandr: I think all the programs that use gstreamer for sound won't work?
[02:42] <MBD123> Is just backing up my main folder enough? Should I back up anything else?
[02:42] <Psinetic> I'm on ubuntu 9.04. Why does firefox not show the videos when they are put in fullscreen sometimes? I put it in fullscreen to watch a video, and end up having refresh the page, making me have to rebuff the entire video, which are sometimes movies >_> any ideas on why it's doing this?
[02:42] <xrandr> ChogyDan: autodetect aint doing crap for me
[02:43] <gogeta> formolQC: go to softwhere sources slect other then hit scan for best it will auto slect the fatest mirror
[02:43]  * mnaines can answer 9.10 install questions and 9.10 security questions, so don't hesitate to ask if you're having problems
[02:43] <formolQC> gogeta, i tryed 4 or 5 servers, all occuped
[02:43] <kankan_> how are you people finding karmic?
[02:43] <Silver_Swords> yaaaaaa 9.10 is very nice!  =)
[02:43] <Rothen> go to update manager
[02:43] <Rothen> it should be in there
[02:43] <gogeta> formolQC: use the scan feature
[02:43] <ChogyDan> xrandr: are you using gst-props?
[02:43] <Rothen> I cant install it though, it keeps stopping due to error
[02:43] <xrandr> ChogyDan: gstreamer-properties
[02:43] <gogeta> formolQC: it will ping threw like 400 diffrent servers
[02:44] <MBD123> I'm going to have karmic as soon as I back up these files, but I need to know if I should back up more than my main folder
[02:44] <ChogyDan> xrandr: ya, don't use autodetect, just try each plugin, and then try every device under each plugin
[02:44] <Rothen> I cant install because it says I don't ubuntu-minimal software source or something o_o
[02:45] <MatFarrel> attention please! please more seed if using torrent file to download ubuntu9.10.
[02:45] <xrandr> ok
[02:45] <formolQC> gogeta, I will retry now, maybe it will be okay, i tryed earlier today, to scan the server, and it stoped because it was too slow (but, in another way, it's normal, the server are working, and we don't pay for it....)
[02:45] <MatFarrel> more seed please.
[02:45] <MBD123> I know I'm not supposed to ask multiple times, but this can't wait
[02:45] <gogeta> formolQC: yea if it does that et it alone it only sems frozen
[02:46] <tech-mike> sombody - i need help, need to know the device name of a hard drive just plugged in (internal IDE)
[02:46] <mnaines> MBD123: Take this advice from a security expert:  ALWAYS back up the mission-critical data to an external drive
[02:46] <JediMaster> I've got a bunch of files on an ubuntu server I want to be able to access on my ubuntu desktop, I've already got them shared with samba, but there's no easy way to mount them and get access to them through programs (they don't see the mount points), should I set them up in my /etc/fstab or is there another way?
[02:46] <MBD123> Which files should I back up before switching to 9.10?
[02:46] <timClicks> how do I get new GPG keys for apt-get? just installed karmic via LiveUSB and am trying to update packages...
[02:46] <Rothen> tech-mike we cannot figure that for you, search the bios for boot devices
[02:46] <Mike_lifeguard> MBD123: All of them?
[02:46] <timClicks> receive the following error:
[02:46] <timClicks> "W: GPG error: http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com karmic-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>"
[02:47] <mnaines> MBD123: Please see my previous message:  Any mission-critical data or personal data should always be backed up on a regular basis
[02:47] <MBD123> Mnaines: oh, I didn't realize you said something. Sorry
[02:47] <Rothen> never!
[02:47] <Rothen> always take a risk
[02:47] <Rothen> its more fun that way
[02:47] <tech-mike> the bios wont tell me the linux/ubuntu device name "/dev/sda" "/dev/hdb" ???
[02:47] <MBD123> Mnaines: Mission-critical?
[02:47] <timClicks> MBD123: consider creating a separate partition with /home as a mountpoint
[02:47] <Rothen> hmn...
[02:47] <Rothen> I see what you mean
[02:47] <timClicks> MBD123: it makes installs much easier
[02:47] <mnaines> MBD123: Mission critical meaning data that you cannot go without
[02:48] <Rothen> where are you trying to find this out tech mike?
[02:48] <Psinetic> ok i need someone to SERIOUSLY help me now. Yesterday I was on for three hours trying to figure out why i couldn't install anything from command line or use the update manager. Turns out it's because for some reason the system wouldn't let go of the Tor proxy i set systemwide. Even though I went into Network Proxy and disabled it system wide, it STILL looks for it. Ebb found this link: http://burakdd.wordpress.com/2009/08/24/removing-proxy-server-fro
[02:48] <Psinetic> m-ubuntu-9-04/ which tells me to run this command: unset http_proxy. I ran it and it worked. Now the problem has started up again, and that command won't fix it...so what the??? o.0
[02:48] <nixiepixel> Hello, can someone please help me troubleshoot a Grub error 17 on installation of Karmic Koala? Full explanation here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1305413
[02:48] <zenlunatic> whats with the MD5SUMS.gpg file?
[02:48] <MBD123> TimClicks: sorry, you lost me
[02:48] <Rothen> are you trying to find it on a cd installation or in ubuntu itself?
[02:48]  * Marfi is back to help
[02:48] <zatlite> hi, if I upgrade from 9.04 with ext3 file system to 9.10, will the file system change to ext4?
[02:48] <tech-mike> i dont know where - lspci doesnt help, the app hardware-info doesnt help....i need it so that with ntfsundelete i can tell it what device to scan
[02:48] <mnaines> Marfi: I can help with 9.10 install issues or 9.10 security issues
[02:48] <Psinetic> marfi, can u help me then? :D
[02:48] <Mike_lifeguard> zatlite: nobody knows what you're talking about. details!
[02:49] <Marfi> mnaines: Nope, I'm back on to help everyone here. =)
[02:49] <Marfi> tech-mike: What seems to be the problem?
[02:49] <timClicks> MBD123: have you used linux for long?
[02:49] <MatFarrel> attention please! please more seed if using torrent file to download ubuntu9.10. thank you.
[02:49] <Rothen> have you tried the gnome partition editor?
[02:49] <mnaines> Marfi: Great.  You can help people with the stuff I can't
[02:49] <trism> zatlite: no it won't, you need to do a clean install if you want ext4
[02:49] <t0rc> Repos being slow for anyone?
[02:49] <Rothen> it may help you in your quest
[02:49] <tech-mike> Marfi:  need to know where to look for device names
[02:49] <MrSchmo> anyone know how i can make my update sources list to 9.10? from the upgrade my source list still hold some things for 9.04 and i dont know whats new or old.
[02:49] <Marfi> tech-mike: It's in system > admin > devices, if I remember right
[02:49] <Psinetic> anyone have any idea why the system proxy simply WON'T go away and keeps blocking me from doing anything?
[02:49] <bigfootbuilt>  torc: I averaged 40kbps
[02:49] <pw> hey guys, how can i recover password from karmic ?
[02:49] <Rothen> I believe that will help you
[02:49] <zatlite> thanks trism
[02:49] <Marfi> tech-mike: Or lspci | grep <device>
[02:49] <MBD123> TimClick: no
[02:49] <Rothen> partition editor :D
[02:50] <ChogyDan> pw: the password for sudo'n?
[02:50] <tech-mike> Marfi:  ive tried lspci - i didnt see the device name though
[02:50] <Marfi> pw: Boot in single mode, and as root, passwd <user>
[02:50] <Marfi> tech-mike: What device are you looking for?
[02:50] <xrandr> ChogyDan: Ok, using custom, and ossink, it says another application is using the device. How can I check to see which app is using it?
[02:50] <Rothen> an IDE harddrive
[02:50] <Psinetic> anyone able to help me? o.0 :(
[02:50] <Mike_lifeguard> MatFarrel: Stop whining, there are plenty of seeds.
[02:50] <tech-mike> a newly added internal hard drive (ide)
[02:50] <Rothen> hes looking for a partition
[02:50] <vinoman> hi
[02:50] <timClicks> MBD123: okay. Basically you can split hard drives into partitions. Among other things, they allow your files to be semi-independent
[02:50] <pw> Marfi: does that work with karmic ?
[02:50] <Marfi> xrandr: ps aux | grep <applications>
[02:50] <zatlite> is the new speedy boot up times dependent on ext4 file system? or can you still get faster boot times when upgrading from ext3 Jaunty?
[02:50] <Rothen> so I said he should look in the gnome partition editor
[02:50] <pw> Marfi: i remember it not working with hardy
[02:51] <ChogyDan> xrandr: don't know.  That's what pulseaudio was supposed to solve
[02:51] <Marfi> pw: Yup, works with most versions of linux, and I don't see them disabling that any time soon
[02:51] <xrandr> lovely
[02:51]  * xrandr uninstalls pulseaudio and reinstalls
[02:51] <timClicks> MBD123: Your /home directory is where all of your personal files live (possibly the 'mission critical' ones)
[02:51] <ChogyDan> xrandr: nothing else works?
[02:51] <mnaines> zatlite: I do not think it is the file system so much as the read/write speeds of the hard drive itself
[02:51] <Marfi> zatlite: ext4 has a lot of new things. 9.10 is also a re-work. I would recommend re-installing instead of updating
[02:51] <xrandr> ChogyDan: nope
[02:51] <Mike_lifeguard> zatlite: best performance comes from ext4 filesystems created from nothing - ext3 upgraded to ext4 is 2nd best
[02:51] <pw> Marfi: i remember having to put in root passwd to run single user mode
[02:51] <pw> Marfi: i remember having to put in root passwd to run single user mode/recovery
[02:51] <MBD123> TimClick: Okay, but I don't think I have enough disk space
[02:51] <Marfi> pw: You shouldn't, not in recovery / single user mode
[02:51] <pw> Marfi: ok i will try. ty
[02:51] <Marfi> pw: Unless they changed it from 9.04 to 9.10
[02:51] <Marfi> pw: pn
[02:51] <mage__> pw: try a blank password?
[02:51] <Marfi> **np
[02:52] <Mike_lifeguard> zatlite: faster boot is a product of both using ext4 (which, even in jaunty, made a big difference) and using upstart (new in karmic)
[02:52] <tech-mike> Marfi:  ??
[02:52] <Psinetic> ANYONE?!??? :(
[02:52] <pw> i installed and somehow the damn pw didn't work :(
[02:52] <timClicks> MBD123: space itself shouldn't be too much of an issue
[02:52] <Rothen> I am having a lot of trouble upgrading from Hardy to Karmic
[02:52] <Ben64> !ask | Psinetic
[02:52] <Marfi> tech-mike: What are you looking for? Sorry, multitasking to help with the load. ^_^
[02:52] <Rothen> I keep on getting this error message
[02:52] <mage__> Psinetic: whats a system proxy
[02:52] <Rothen> After your package information was updated the essential package 'ubuntu-minimal' can not be found anymore.
[02:52] <Rothen> This indicates a serious error, please report this bug against the 'update-manager' package and include the files in /var/log/dist-upgrade/ in the bug report
[02:52] <Mike_lifeguard> Rothen: That's because doing so isn't supported.
[02:52] <Psinetic> Ben64 i've alrady asked the same stupid question four times
[02:52] <mnaines> Rothen: Do not upgrade.  There are too many issues with upgrading.  Just do a clean install.
[02:52] <ubuntunewuser> hello!! im using windows 7 and i want to install kubuntu from an usb pendrive, how do i do it??
[02:52] <Psinetic> mage__ the system proxy is a proxy you can set on the system
[02:52] <Madpilot> Rothen, skipping versions is unsupported.
[02:52] <Rothen> fuck I dont want to :(
[02:52] <vinoman> Rothen: do a clean install. it's much better way to go
[02:53] <Psinetic> System->Prefs->Network proxy
[02:53] <mage__> ah
[02:53] <Rothen> I need to get a disk now :\ or bother with a usb drive
[02:53] <Mike_lifeguard> Rothen: too bad, computers suck :)
[02:53] <tech-mike> Marfi:  i have pm'd u
[02:53] <MBD123> Timclicks: so, if I'm on a 16GB disk, I'll have enough room to create a partition in which to back up my Jaunty files?
[02:53] <Madpilot> Rothen, you could have gone 8.10->9.04->9.10, but not 8.10->9.10
[02:53] <vinoman> Rothen: you'll be glad you did. :)
[02:53] <Rothen> wait
[02:53] <Rothen> lol
[02:53] <blm14> hey guys
[02:53] <CopyWriter> burning the iso now
[02:53] <formolQC> ubuntunewuser, http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[02:53] <Psinetic> but just for Ben64, i'll post the question again :)
[02:53] <Rothen> I meant jaunty
[02:53] <Rothen> o_o
[02:53] <Psinetic> ok i need someone to SERIOUSLY help me now. Yesterday I was on for three hours trying to figure out why i couldn't install anything from command line or use the update manager. Turns out it's because for some reason the system wouldn't let go of the Tor proxy i set systemwide. Even though I went into Network Proxy and disabled it system wide, it STILL looks for it. Ebb found this link: http://burakdd.wordpress.com/2009/08/24/removing-proxy-server-fro
[02:53] <vinoman> adios
[02:53] <FloodBot1> Rothen: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:53] <mnaines> MBD123: Considering 9.10 only needs about 5GB, yes
[02:53] <Psinetic> m-ubuntu-9-04/ which tells me to run this command: unset http_proxy. I ran it and it worked. Now the problem has started up again, and that command won't fix it...so what the??? o.0
[02:53] <CopyWriter> anyone got any screenshots
[02:53] <FloodBot1> Psinetic: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:53] <blm14> anyone had problems with AMD64 and karmic koala?
[02:53] <vinoman> karmic is working fine.
[02:54] <Mike_lifeguard> Psinetic: Stop repeating yourself.
[02:54] <Marfi> tech-mike: Got it. ;_
[02:54] <Rothen> sorry about that, I loved hardy so much that I use it now
[02:54] <blm14> I am upgrading an amd64 system from 9.04 to 9.10 and it's frozen - last line in the /var/log/dist-upgrade/main.log is this "2009-10-29 21:31:39,457 WARNING no activity on terminal for 240 seconds (Configuring libpam0g)" and it's been stuck on that for like 2 hours. Any ideas?
[02:54] <Marfi> *;)
[02:54] <mage__> Psinetic: the proxy works via environment
[02:54] <timClicks> MBD123: ahh... the partitioning is really best done if you're working with a clean installation
[02:54] <t0rc> I'm having a hell of a time downloading the end files for freeglut
[02:54] <z3ro3x> I was running the 9.10 Release Candidate days before final release.  How come Update Manager hasn't told me there's a new upgrade available?
[02:54] <Psinetic> Mike_lifeguard, then someone answer the question >_> and Ben wanted to know the questoin, so i told him. READ my friend, READ
[02:54] <timClicks> MBD123: as far as backing up 16GB - a USB stick would come in handy
[02:54] <Marfi> t0rc: Mirrors are running slow. It won't speed up for a good week or 2
[02:55] <Marfi> z3ro3x: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:55] <Psinetic> mage__ i know how the proxy works, what i don't know is why it just won't turn off
[02:55] <ChogyDan> t0rc: try selecting a more local server in Software Sources
[02:55] <Mike_lifeguard> Psinetic: Maybe you didn't notice that folks here are volunteers. Flooding the channel with the same question repeatedly is a guaranteed way to not get help.
[02:55] <mage__> Psinetic: tor proxy is localhost? do "set |grep localhost" in a console and then it'll show PROXY=localhost:923 or something similar, try unset PROXY and then try from that terminal
[02:55] <kankan_> anybody use intel here?
[02:55] <MBD123> Timclicks: thanks for your help, but I just got some 1 on 1 help. Turns out I only needed to back up the home folder. Thanks anyway :)
[02:55] <ubuntunewuser> ive tried unetbootin but it doesnt work with windows 7...! any other app?? to install kubuntu from usb pendrive??
[02:55] <Marfi> z3ro3x: If that doesn't kick it in...update-manager -d from terminal
[02:55] <mage__> kankan_: intel what?
[02:55] <kankan_> mb.
[02:55] <TheFunkbomb> I just upgraded to 9.10 and I have a few issues.  First off, Firefox is STILL shiretoko
[02:55] <mage__> kankan_: i have an intel coffee warmer :D
[02:55] <Marfi> ubuntunewuser: Why not a CD? And unetbootin should work
[02:55] <blm14> WARNING no activity on terminal for 240 seconds (Configuring libpam0g) ... Anyone? :(
[02:55] <Mike_lifeguard> kankan_: Maybe it would be best to state your actual problem!
[02:55] <kankan_> graphics
[02:55] <hackmygibson> does anyone know why when you minimize windows in ubuntu 9.10 they dont show up on the bar at the bottom?
[02:55] <kankan_> compiz.desktop effect
[02:55] <KittyKis> hey, just got Karmic, quick questions: how do I enable timestamps and logging in Empathy?
[02:56] <linuxuz3r> is 9.10 stable
[02:56] <kohlrak> Ok guys, i'm not crazy. Random shutdown happened in karmic again.
[02:56] <Mike_lifeguard> hackmygibson: that'll be a bug, I think
[02:56] <Nevertaken9000> is there some sort of a tutorial or something someone can link me to for help with configuring xdaliclock? i'm having a hard time getting it how i want it, and i've seen some brilliant examples of it in use
[02:56] <millo87> hey guys - wrong channel, but the correct one seems dead - latest xubuntu, i'm at the install screen with the "boot options" and "Install Xubuntu" middle of the screen
[02:56] <Marfi> kohlrak: Check your hardware
[02:56] <timClicks> MBD123: am glad to hear you're on your way :)
[02:56] <millo87> where do i go from here?
[02:56] <ubuntunewuser> Marfi: the usb had ntfs file system and it gave me an error should i tried with fat32?
[02:56] <Mike_lifeguard> !xubuntu | millo87
[02:56] <Marfi> Nevertaken9000: man kdaliclock
[02:56] <Psinetic> Mike_lifeguard, well asking the question doesn't seem to get answers, so what do you expect me to do? just sit here and pray and hope that someone actually answers me? i understand what you're saying, i ask you to understand what i'm saying.
[02:56] <ubuntunewuser> !install ubuntu
[02:56] <Marfi> ubuntunewuser: You need to format it to fat32
[02:56] <linuxuz3r>  is 9.10 stable
[02:56] <DanaG> now... how long until the next +1 opens?  =þ
[02:56] <kohlrak> Marfi: we did this already. Hardware's fine. It shut down normally when i plugged it in and use the mouse, as if i went to shut down but i didn't. =p
[02:56] <Marfi> linuxuz3r: Yup
[02:56] <johnboker> back to 9.04 for me
[02:56] <ubuntunewuser> Marfi: thanks! and how can i recover grub2??
[02:57] <linuxuz3r> johnboker: why are you going back
[02:57] <linuxuz3r> Marfi: ok
[02:57] <formolQC> ubuntunewuser, try http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/  it will do everything alone
[02:57] <Marfi> kohlrak: Try to check your BIOS to see if there is anything funky for USB
[02:57] <Psinetic> mage__, it's still not working. i still get the same error
[02:57] <ubuntunewuser> Marfi: should i type, sudo update-grub && sudo grub-install /dev/sda?
[02:57] <johnboker> linuxuz3r 9.10 is having a lot of issues, i cant even boot now
[02:57] <linuxuz3r> did you install grub properly?
[02:57] <Mike_lifeguard> Psinetic: That's because nobody so far knows how to help you. Deal with it. Again: people here are volunteers. Some of us, being human, don't know everything and therefore cannot help you. Unfortunately, all the ones who *do* know everything are bots and thus not terribly helpful.
[02:57] <Marfi> ubuntunewuser: Not sure how they did grub2. IT used to be....yea, that should do it. I would get the grubLive disk, though.
[02:57] <jedivulcan> I'm going to try 9.10 shortly
[02:57] <MatFarrel> attention please! please more seed (don't limit upload speed) if using torrent file to download Ubuntu9.10. It's call community. Thank you.
[02:57] <kohlrak> Marfi: check my bios how? Plus, i've been using ubuntu for a while, didn't start 'till karmic. I'd send a bug report, but i don't know how to reproduce it yet.
[02:57] <jedivulcan> It'll be a "sidegrade" for me
[02:57] <linuxuz3r> johnboker: did you installl grub properly
[02:58] <millo87> hey guys - wrong channel, but the correct one seems dead - latest xubuntu, i'm at the install screen with the "boot options" and "Install Xubuntu" middle of the screen - can someone tell me where to go from here?
[02:58] <johnboker> linuxuz3r i upgraded from 9.04 and after rebooting the screen is completely white, i decided to do a fresh install of 9.10 and the installer has a white screen too
[02:58] <hackmygibson> wait i figured out what it was when im minimizing the window it is being closed instead
[02:58] <Mike_lifeguard> millo87: Ask in #xubuntu please
[02:58] <fxhp> Is this normal during an upgrade?: http://pastebin.com/m4df1763d
[02:58] <Psinetic> Mike_lifeguard, thank you for your help.
[02:58] <Marfi> kohlrak: Could be something with the USB, usually f2 or delete when you boot up. May want to run a mentest, too
[02:58] <linuxuz3r> johnboker: thats odd
[02:58] <millo87> I did ask there mike, but the channel appears dead, no response for over 5 minutes now
[02:58] <johnboker> linuxuz3r grub is fine, the graphics driver has some major issues for me
[02:59] <SnakDoc> am i getting message about repo failing due to traffic ?
[02:59] <seme> is there any way to make apt use a different mirror?
[02:59] <Marfi> millo87: Click the "try xubuntu without modifying the hard drive" and there will be an install script on the desktop
[02:59] <johnboker> linuxuz3r https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/297245
[02:59] <kankan_> the intel graphics issue still persisits.
[02:59] <linuxuz3r> johnboker: oh
[02:59] <linuxuz3r> johnboker: what graphics card
[02:59] <mage__> Psinetic: so the proxy isn't an environment variable?
[02:59] <johnboker> intel i965
[02:59] <IdleOne> kankan_: the intel regretion is gone on my hardware
[02:59] <kohlrak> Marfi: USB? How? What did they add with karmic that could make the USB tell my computer to shut down normally? I'll run the memtest, though.... It's possible, but i find it very unlikely considering it happened the very next day after i installed karmic from jaunty.
[02:59] <kankan_> intel i845
[02:59] <IdleOne> regression*
[02:59] <Psinetic> mage__ it is, and it worked yesterday, but it's like everytime i cut it off it simply comes back on. I have no idea why it's not working now, it fixed it yesterday.
[03:00] <tyoc> people, which program can I use for edit docbook files?
[03:00] <kankan_> IdleOne:how?
[03:00] <hackmygibson> i've only found the one bug for me in 9.10   everything else seems fine
[03:00] <Mike_lifeguard> IdleOne: do you also use compiz? I get crashes with any compiz effect after upgrading :\
[03:00] <linuxuz3r> johnboker: good luck with your problem
[03:00] <johnboker> i was looking forward to the update too, kinda disappointing
[03:00] <Marfi> kohlrak: If memory serves correctly, they switched from HAL to managing hardware to something else, don't remember what it was. That might be a place to start looking. ;)
[03:00] <Mike_lifeguard> IdleOne: But seems more stable otherwise (ie the *system* is stable, even if compiz is broken)
[03:00] <IdleOne> kankan_: I upgraded and 3d effects are working. Mike_lifeguard yes compiz seems to be fine also
[03:00] <Psinetic> mage__ i would get you a pastebin of the error....but it keeps saying it's spam...>_>
[03:00] <fxhp> during upgrade? : http://pastebin.com/m4df1763d
[03:01] <Mike_lifeguard> Psinetic: p.defau.lt is better
[03:01] <kankan_> what intel card do u use?
[03:01] <Marfi> Anyone who updated from 9.04 to 9.10....best way is to ALWAYS do a clean install. Less stuff breaks. This is from many errors on my part. Learn from my mistakes. Thank you. =)
[03:01] <seme> ha haa... I guess I'm  not the only one who is having software download slowness issues, http://mashable.com/2009/10/29/karmic-koala/
[03:01] <kohlrak> Marfi: Oh yeah, i heard about that. That's one of hte things they're looking for bugs the most for, i wish i could reproduce it for y'all, cause i know we're about to see this alot more.
[03:01] <IdleOne> kankan_: VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[03:01] <Mike_lifeguard> Marfi: Yeah, it is now KMS (I think that's what it is called... kernel mode setting)
[03:01] <Psinetic> mage__ http://p.defau.lt/?DWNRGBUEoCaoxdD8cXYR2A
[03:01] <xrandr> ChogyDan: odd. i get sound in KOpete, but audio as in music or anything from the net is negative
[03:01] <kohlrak> Marfi: and to hat about updating, then there should be a better process for upgrading...
[03:02] <johnboker> kankan: intel i965 is the one im having issues with
[03:02] <kankan_> you did anything to enable 3d effects?
[03:02] <ChogyDan> xrandr: hmm, maybe it's a gstreamer bug
[03:02] <the_hoser> FINALLY I can watch Jon Stewart with firefox!!! ^_^
[03:02] <kohlrak> marfi: anyway, i'll go do a quick memtest. I'll be back, i doubt it'll find anything but i better do it anyway...
[03:02] <IdleOne> kankan_: go to System, Prefs , Appearance and click the 3d effects
[03:02] <MenZa> Any screen experts who can tell me how to kill a window straight from the window list (C-a ")?
[03:02] <xrandr> ChogyDan: can firefox and amarok/rhythmbox be configured to use something other than gstreamer?
[03:02] <IdleOne> kankan_: also install compizconfig-settings-manager
[03:03]  * DanaG wonders if it's possible to get compiz to not speed up the GPU.
[03:03] <Nevertaken9000> this may be a stupid question, but if i try running "xdaliclock -root" nothing happens...how do i get xdaliclock to run without a window? i can get everything else about it to work but i want it to be stationary? what else do i have to do?
[03:03] <DanaG> Right now, compiz reduces battery life a lot.
[03:03] <ChogyDan> no idea
[03:03] <cdm10> DanaG: it doesn't speed up the GPU on mine until I DO something
[03:04] <Xgates> say anyone using VirtualBox for Ubuntu?
[03:04] <Mike_lifeguard> MenZa: What do you mean "the window list"?
[03:04] <FFEMTcJ> Xgates: yes,
[03:04] <ripps> xrandr: amarok can use xine, I think. But I'm pretty sure rhythmbox is stuck with gstreamer
[03:04] <FFEMTcJ> mnaines: I got it working... I had to reinstall grub2 via the livecd
[03:04] <mage__> Psinetic: is that from a console?
[03:04] <Psinetic> mage__ no that's from the update manager
[03:04] <mnaines> FFEMTcJ: Good job.  Sorry I could not help.
[03:04] <hackmygibson> this is reallllly homo, i have to load every program again and again if i have a maximized window infront of it
[03:05] <MenZa> Mike_lifeguard: If you're in screen, try C-a " - this'll give you a list of your active windows.
[03:05] <arunreddy> Hi All, Are there any issues upgrading to 9.10 from Update Manager.? Any one tried , thanks .
[03:05] <Psinetic> mage__ hmmmmm now THAT'S odd. running "sudo apt-get update" in terminal works fine. but it won't work in the update manager.
[03:05] <pelmen> guys, i need to copy some files from home folder using LIVECD, but i cannot acess it, because it says permission denied
[03:05] <Malignus> register t3mp0r4l wootchismo@yahoo.com
[03:05] <Xgates> FFEMTcJ: this url ---> http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Fix-VirtualBox-USB-Support-111715.shtml says that when you look at the groups you'll find a group entry there called 'vboxusers' but I see none. I know I can just add the name, but I'm wondering does any VB pkg set this up?
[03:05] <IdleOne> arunreddy: just completed upgrade about 1 hour ago. all went fine.
[03:05] <mnaines> arunreddy: Upgrading from 9.04 WILL cause 9.10 to break.  It is best to do a clean install of 9.10
[03:06] <Mike_lifeguard> MenZa: cool, never knew about that
[03:06] <jumbers> While trying to sudo apt-get update, I'm getting this error: "A error occurred during the signature verification. The repository is not updated and the previous index files will be used.GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com karmic-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>"
[03:06] <MBD123> Installing 9.10!!!
[03:06] <IdleOne> arunreddy: but just because it worked for me does not mean it will for you :/
[03:06] <arunreddy> mnaines : Thanks
[03:06] <spO> the downloads are too slow, do any of you have a server that is located in the usa but is not public?
[03:06] <TheFunkbomb> Wasn't Shiretoko supposed to rebrand to Firefox3.5 with 9.10?
[03:06] <pelmen> anybody ?
[03:06] <spO> LETS make it a torrent file!
[03:07] <Brent> Does anybody have time to help me with a grub problem?
[03:07] <mage__> Psinetic: evironment variables are inherited and when you set it system wide it didn't get passed down to the updater applet
[03:07] <mnaines> TheFunkbomb: Shiretoko was the codename for Firefox 3.5
[03:07] <isola73dsh33p> i can't install 9.10 for Amd64 using alternate CD, what could be the problem?
[03:07] <TheFunkbomb> mnaines, I know that
[03:07] <pelmen> guys, i need to copy some files from home folder using LIVECD, but i cannot acess it, because it says permission denied
[03:07] <Mike_lifeguard> !torrents | spO
[03:07] <FireCrotch> !torrents | spO
[03:07] <Ben64> spO: use the torrent from ubuntu.com
[03:07] <spO> thanks
[03:07] <Marfi> Brent: What seems to be the problem? It's slightly hectic here, as you can tell
[03:07] <TheFunkbomb> mnaines, but mine is still called shiretoko
[03:07] <Psinetic> mage__ how do i pass it down then?
[03:07] <MatFarrel> attention please! please more seed (don't limit upload speed) if using torrent file to download Ubuntu9.10. It's call community. Thank you.
[03:07] <Brent> i can see that
[03:07] <mnaines> TheFunkbomb: To answer your question, firefox 3.5 is default in 9.10
[03:07] <Marfi> Brent: =)
[03:08] <TheFunkbomb> mnaines, mine is still called shiretoko
[03:08] <Mike_lifeguard> MatFarrel: Stop whining, not everyone has infinite bandwidth, and there are plenty of seeds.
[03:08] <calebH> happy release day!
[03:08] <Brent> i installed 9.1 just today on a hard drive by itself, i wanted to hook up an old drive with windows xp on it as a slave and grab a ton of files off of it that i want, but when i do, grub tells me its out of memory and cant load
[03:08] <Xgates> Marfi: slightly hetic, LOL, that's why I made another ubuntu channel so in time there will another place a bit more relaxed
[03:08] <Rabbitbunny> Mike_lifeguard: Don't be a bummer.
[03:08] <anarki2004> how do I determine the drive numbers for "/dev/sda1"? (i.e. hd0,3)
[03:08] <Marfi> Brent: Set the other HDD as master
[03:09] <Brent> the one with winxp on it?
[03:09] <Marfi> Brent: No, the ubuntu one.
[03:09] <CrocoJet> did someone get success with webcam using new ubuntu?
[03:09] <Marfi> Brent: Another idea would be to make the Ubuntu one on it's own IDE cable, then put the other on on the other
[03:09] <Brent> it is, or should be i guess
[03:09] <Xgates> FFEMTcJ: did you check that URL?
[03:09] <ChogyDan> CrocoJet: I have some success
[03:09] <Mike_lifeguard> anarki2004: sda1 is hd0,0 I think
[03:09] <Brent> its jumpered cable select and on the first ide thingy
[03:09] <CrocoJet> I am getting image "down to up"
[03:09] <Marfi> CrocoJet: I did see an application in the install manager for a webcam. Don't know if that would help
[03:10] <anarki2004> Mike_lifeguard: thats sort of what I thought, but wasn't sure
[03:10] <Marfi> Brent: If they are on the same cable, then the ubuntu HDD needs to be master
[03:10] <Rabbitbunny> CrocoJet: THere's normally a setting to flip the image vertically.
[03:10] <CrocoJet> what application ?
[03:10] <Ben64> MatFarrel: ok, now I'm seeding the torrent with 100mbit, stop complaining
[03:10] <Marfi> Brent: Another way is to plug the one up as master, don't plug in the windows, boot into ubuntu, then plug the other in
[03:10] <hans_> Hey people! Back after a restart. Run into the same annoying thing as after all boots. Data partition is not mounted by default. Is there a way to automount a partition? That would be really nice....
[03:10] <MatFarrel> Mike_lifeguard: I mean if people have fast bandwidth, please more upload and don't limited.
[03:10] <Brent> so i just need to jumper it master and i should be all set?
[03:10] <hackmygibson> ANYone else having a problem with windows closing when you minimize,   just curious
[03:10] <Marfi> Brent: Yup
[03:10] <Mike_lifeguard> anarki2004: You can probably tell what's what with ... somecommandiforget in grub
[03:10] <Ben64> MatFarrel: theres only 2 leechers anyway, doesn't matter, shush
[03:10] <kankan_> how to show my home folder and trash icon on desktop?
[03:11] <Brent> i can plug the xp HDD in say
[03:11] <Brent> right now?
[03:11] <anarki2004> Mike_lifeguard: still haven't really figured out grub
[03:11] <Asad2005> exit
[03:11] <kohlrak> so much for the memtest
[03:11] <Mike_lifeguard> MatFarrel: Yeah, I heard you, now stop whining, it is really annoying and totally useless.
[03:11] <Marfi> Brent: Yup. Don't hit anything on the mobo though
[03:11] <nixiepixel> So I guess I should try re-installing grub from a live cd?
[03:11] <Mike_lifeguard> anarki2004: nobody has
[03:11] <anarki2004> Mike_lifeguard: but I am trying to use it right now....
[03:11] <Ben64> upload rate:    4.9 kB/s \\\ <--- good thing I jumped on the torrent
[03:11] <Brent> what will happen? ubuntu will just all of a sudden see the drive and allow me to browse it?
[03:11] <Andysalina5> hello
[03:11] <Xcell> kankan_-  go to configuration editor and under apps/nautilus
[03:11] <MatFarrel> Ben64: don't close your torrent until 2 week.
[03:12] <Ben64> don't tell me when to close my torrent
[03:12] <Rabbitbunny> Mike_lifeguard: You need to go read the freenode policies. Telling him to stop 'whining' is not in the spirit of freenode or Ubuntu.
[03:12] <kohlrak> marfi, know specifically where i might look on launchpad for my error incase it's already reported?
[03:12] <Ben64> Rabbitbunny: it is in the spirit of the Governator
[03:12] <kankan_> where is configuration editor?
[03:12] <Marfi> kohlrak: I would start by looking for usb errors with KMS
[03:12] <Mike_lifeguard> Rabbitbunny: clearly you don't know what you're talking about :)
[03:12] <al1as> hello guys
[03:12] <ebtek220> why are you suppose to update jaunty before you get karmic? what are the ramifications if i skip this step
[03:12] <kohlrak> marfi: thanks
[03:12] <Marfi> Yarrrrr AliceMargatroid
[03:12] <Marfi> ** al1as
[03:12] <Xcell> kankan_-  go to sys/prefs/main menu  and check it
[03:13] <Mike_lifeguard> ebtek220: upgrading between versions is complicated enough already, I really recommend you don't test your luck
[03:13] <doc_brown> if you dual boot two different ubuntu releases, can you transfer files from one release to the other?
[03:13] <CrocoJet> strange ... at 9.04 was working pretty nice .. now I have bad quality image (webcam)
[03:13] <TheFunkbomb> anyone know how I can rebrand shiretoko into firefox 3.5 in 9.10?
[03:13] <Mike_lifeguard> doc_brown: Yes.
[03:13] <Andysalina5> hey
[03:13] <CrocoJet> I have samsung Pleomax
[03:13] <Andysalina5> should i upgrade to 9.10?
[03:13] <al1as> I got "Warning: unable to find a suitable fs in /proc/mounts, is it mounted?". How can i fix it?
[03:13] <Xcell> kank IT WILL BE UNDER SYSTEM TOOLS
[03:13] <Andysalina5> im using 9.4
[03:13] <Marfi> Andysalina5: I recommend doing a clean install
[03:13] <Andysalina5> well
[03:13] <nixiepixel> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtBBl6HvdpM Re-installing Grub 2 would be similar to this, right?
[03:13] <snayth> Best place for Karmic i386 CDR download is ? ?
[03:13] <sweetandy> doc_brown: Some people have entirely separate Linux distros on the same computer with a shared /home partition, so yes
[03:13] <Andysalina5> i have important documents Marfi
[03:13] <Mike_lifeguard> !torrents | snayth
[03:13] <Xcell> check
[03:14] <Xgates> anyone running 9.10 on VirtualBox?
[03:14] <Andysalina5> VM ware fusion
[03:14] <Andysalina5> is what i use
[03:14] <xenogia> a quick question, how do i get into my boot menu like 9.04?
[03:14] <al1as> I got "Warning: unable to find a suitable fs in /proc/mounts, is it mounted?". How can i fix it?
[03:14] <z3ro3x> Marfi: I tried all the commands you mentioned.  And all of them tell me every thing is up to date.  I would have thought that there would be some updates to download once the final release comes out to update the release candidate I've been running.
[03:14] <Xgates> I know VMware :)
[03:14] <Andysalina5> yeah
[03:14] <Andysalina5> its awesome
[03:15] <Andysalina5> i use mac
[03:15] <Andysalina5> but
[03:15] <endersyrinx> Starting to use 9.10. How can I change the button configuration on a Wacom stylus?
[03:15] <Rabbitbunny> Andysalina5: The enter key is not puncuation.
[03:15] <Andysalina5> ubuntu/xubuntu is much better
[03:15] <Xgates> well for free VirtualBox is pretty awesome :)
[03:15] <Deathvalley122> hello can anyone help to fix a sr0?
[03:15] <doc_brown> sweetandy, i have 8.10 and 8.04, and i want to install 9.10.  but there are 110 GB of files i need, and my external died.  So i dont want to lose all of that
[03:15] <Deathvalley122> me**
[03:15] <Marfi> z3ro3x: You may be up-to-date. They normally kick out updates a day earlier for RC'ers, so they can get ahead of the traffic
[03:15] <doc_brown> sweetandy, install 9.10 as in the one and only OS
[03:15] <Andysalina5> Rabbitbunny.  I dont like typing so many words quickly because i am bound to make mistakes
[03:15] <Andysalina5> that could be embarrassing
[03:15] <Marfi> Andysalina5: Not to mention, it's free
[03:16] <Andysalina5> hmm
[03:16] <Andysalina5> well the thing is
[03:16] <xenogia> anyone
[03:16] <TheCheeze> i just upgraded to karmic from jaunty and am having a linking problem. pidgin and x-chat will not open firefox. has anyone else had this problem?
[03:16] <Marfi> Andysalina5: And cheaper. And stable.
[03:16] <sweetandy> doc_brown: you probably have everything on one partition, mounted as /. If that's the case, then you'll have to find a way to transfer the files. Keeping a separate /home partition is useful for just this reason.
[03:16] <spO> if I install ubuntu 9.10 will it recognize and write over my old ubuntu partition, or do i have to install windows 7 again first?
[03:16] <Andysalina5> my internet maxes out at about 300 kb/s
[03:16] <Andysalina5> so i have to order a copy of the disk
[03:16] <Marfi> TheCheeze: Try alt + f2, then type "firefox". see if that works
[03:16] <sweetandy> doc_brown: that way, you can keep all your files without touching them between installation of different OSes.
[03:16] <z3ro3x> Marfi, I was hoping for some patches considering the issues I've been having with Rhythmbox and Miro.
[03:16] <trism> TheCheeze: check out System/Preferences/Preferred Applications and see what is listed
[03:17] <mnaines> Andysalina5: That happens to me and I'm on a 15 down 1.5 up connection.  That's normal because of all the traffic on the mirrors right now.
[03:17] <spO> and, 300 kb/s is fast enough and you could download it overnigth
[03:17] <sweetandy> doc_brown: That's a LOT of files.
[03:17] <bastidrazor> spO: you can tell it to overwrite the 9.04 install.
[03:17] <Mike_lifeguard> Andysalina5: Please try to keep your sentences on one line. You can even put more than one sentence on a single line. This helps everyone in the channel. As well, you should address who you're talking to, otherwise they could easily miss it.
[03:17] <boomernang> Hi. Fresh install of 9.10 and my ntfs partitions were mounted fine! installed my mp3 stuff and flash when i opened konqueror then restarted my system. Now ubuntu hasnt mounted by ntfs partitions? How can this happen? Only way to get them back is to edit /etc/fstab?
[03:17] <TheCheeze> trism, says firefox
[03:17] <Psinetic> since i can't use the update manager, does anyone know of a way to upgrade to karmic via command line?
[03:17] <fool_> the repos are dead
[03:17] <doc_brown> sweetandy, when i realized my external was dying, i quickly backed up to my laptop 250 gb
[03:17] <Marfi> boomernang: places > click on your HDD from there
[03:17] <fool_> :/
[03:17] <Andysalina5> I dont have a computer that i can use to download all night.  My dad thinks all torrents are viruses due to a bad experience with windows
[03:17] <Marfi> boomernang: Or edit your /etc/fstab
[03:17] <TheCheeze> Marfi, i can launch firefox from cmd and the launchers
[03:18] <kankan_> how to show my home folder and trash icon on desktop?
[03:18] <Mike_lifeguard> Psinetic: do-release-upgrade ?
[03:18] <Deathvalley122> can someone help me with a sr0 problem?
[03:18] <TheCheeze> Marfi, alt+f2 firefox launches it as well
[03:18] <Marfi> TheCheeze: But you can't launch from the other programs...? Should you be able to? *confused look*
[03:18] <thansen_> what's the 'correct' way to set my default cpu governer? it's performance right now but I want ondemand?
[03:18] <hackmygibson> dude it wasnt a bug  the windows list got deleted   thanks
[03:18] <sweetandy> doc_brown: if you have all of your files backed up, after the fresh install, you can mount the laptop in question as a network drive, probably via SSH if it's also linux.
[03:18] <Marfi> z3ro3x: Patches for what? Too many names. =)
[03:18] <al1as> any msi wind users here?
[03:18] <doc_brown> Andysalina5, ALL torrents ARE viruses.  especially linux torrents
[03:18] <Deathvalley122> Oct 29 20:18:32 deathvalley122-desktop kernel: [ 2703.471272] VFS: busy inodes on changed media or resized disk sr0
[03:18] <TheCheeze> yes, i should be able to lol. i was using 3.5.3 in jaunty with no problems, so i know it shouldnt be a browser upgrade issue
[03:18] <Andysalina5> lol i know but my dad isnt very technology educated
[03:19] <Andysalina5> so he uses macosx cause its super easy
[03:19] <trism> TheCheeze: maybe try setting preferred applications to custom and using firefox %s
[03:19] <RPG_Master> If I want to replace an apps Icon, where should I put my icon I made?
[03:19] <kankan_> how to show my home folder and trash icon on desktop?
[03:19] <Marfi> RPG_Master: Anywhere. It defaults to /usr/share/Icons though
[03:19] <Marfi> kankan_: sudo apt-get install gtweakui , go to system > prefferences > gtweakui-nautalus
[03:19] <Marfi> kankan_: And it will be there
[03:20] <RPG_Master> Marfi: But what do I name the file, so that it will replace the default icon everywhere?
[03:20] <Deathvalley122> anybody?
[03:20] <doc_brown> sweetandy, can i create a partition to store the files, and install karmic on a separate partition?
[03:20] <TheCheeze> trism- is currently firefox -new-tab "%s"
[03:20] <Marfi> RPG_Master: You should be able to click the launcher in the menu and edit it from there, and that should change it everywhere. You may need to go into appearence, though
[03:20] <cn> I have a new install of Desktop 9.10 and there is a problem with my package manager the message is "E: Type 'Reading' is not known on line 54 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:20] <cn> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[03:20] <cn> Go to the repository dialog to correct the problem.
[03:20] <cn> E: _cache->open() failed, please report."
[03:20] <spO> are the rumors true that Microsoft intends on buying Ubuntu?
[03:20] <FloodBot1> cn: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:20] <calebH> RPG_Master: you should probably save it some place in your home directory, and replace the current with a symlink to the new one
[03:20] <Andysalina5> So i want to buy an older P4 computer with about 2 gigs of ddr2 ram.  Its single core clocked at 3.4ghz.  Should i install ubu 9.10 or should i use xubuntu instead?
[03:21] <docgnome> So i got the nvidia-glx-96 driver working, but it crashes X
[03:21] <docgnome> this is what lspci reports the card as 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NVCrush11 [GeForce2 MX Integrated Graphics] (rev b1)
[03:21] <Marfi> cn: Did you edit your sources.list file?
[03:21] <calebH> RPG_Master: I do this for the pgadmin3 icon (UGLY)
[03:21] <ionstorm66> hello
[03:21] <KurtKraut> Andysalina5, I run Ubuntu on a Celeron 630mHz and 512mb de RAM. I think you should try Ubuntu.
[03:21] <Marfi> Yar ionstorm66
[03:21] <Bhavesh2177> Hey is anybody know how to restrict  Control + mouse wheel up/down ?
[03:21] <DanaG> watch out when buying old stuff... make sure you don't pay more than you should.
[03:21] <ionstorm66> i did a fresh install of 9.10 on my lappy
[03:21] <Andysalina5> KurtKraut:  is it fast?
[03:21] <Marfi> KurtKraut: I feel sorry for you. /me hugs his celeron
[03:22] <ionstorm66> and my touch pad quit working
[03:22] <Marfi> Andysalina5: Nope. very slow
[03:22] <kankan_> Marfi:thanks a lot
[03:22]  * Andysalina5 kisses celeron
[03:22] <DanaG> Especially if you can get an equivalent new-ish-ish system for approximately similar price.
[03:22] <sweetandy> doc_brown: If the files are already on one partition, you'd need twice as much space as the files take up in order to create an extra partition that would not be touched in the reinstall. If you have the files backed up, check out Parted Magic LiveCD, but do some research to find out what you're doing.
[03:22] <Marfi> kankan_: Np. =)
[03:22] <RPG_Master> calebH: Yeah, I am making a replacement icon for gmountiso (BLEH!)
[03:22] <Andysalina5> im getting the computer for approx 99$
[03:22] <Andysalina5> its a steal
[03:22] <sweetandy> doc_brown: You may need to just do a wipe, but set it up right this time.
[03:22] <tyoc> an XML editor that support docbook?
[03:22] <KurtKraut> Andysalina5, no, but it is not slow either. I can use OpenOffice perfectly. Only intensive flash websites are noticeably slow.
[03:22] <Bhavesh2177> any help reguarding  Control + mouse wheel up/down
[03:22] <Marfi> tyoc: I would say to try gedit or emacs
[03:22] <doc_brown> Great Scott!!
[03:23] <tyoc> mmm, ok
[03:23] <Andysalina5> ic KurtKraut.  Why dont you try xubuntu?
[03:23] <cn> I have a new install of 9.10, package manager is broken with the following message:
[03:23] <cn> E: Type 'Reading' is not known on line 54 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:23] <cn> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[03:23] <cn> Go to the repository dialog to correct the problem.
[03:23] <cn> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[03:23] <FloodBot1> cn: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:23] <calebH> RPG_Master: if you want a suggestion, what I do is make a .icons directory in my home folder for all the various icons I like to use for specific purposes
[03:23] <ionstorm66> xorg on 9.1 stays at 90% cpu all the time
[03:23] <Marfi> cn: I already replied to that, and you never answered. Did you edit your sources.list?
[03:23] <cn> http://paste.ubuntu.com/304743/plain/
[03:23] <RPG_Master> calebH: Thanks for the suggestion :)
[03:23] <z3ro3x> I lost my connection, so I don't know if my last message made it, so sorry if this is a repeat message.  Marfi, In Rhythmbox music will be playing and randomly stops.  The program becomes non-responsive and I end up having to kill it.
[03:24] <KurtKraut> Andysalina5, because Xubuntu wouldn't interfere in the worst performance scenario: intensive flash websites.
[03:24] <Marfi> z3ro3x: Did you update?
[03:24] <Deathvalley122> can anyone help me?
[03:24] <Andysalina5> I understand KurtKraut
[03:24] <Marfi> z3ro3x: From 9.04?
[03:24] <z3ro3x> Marfi, I most have a day or so ago.
[03:24] <Andysalina5> How much for your box KurtKraut?
[03:24] <RPG_Master> now where would the individual icons be located?
[03:24] <cn> I have a problem with 9.10, just installed it and after loading a few programs I got this message: http://paste.ubuntu.com/304743/plain/
[03:24] <Marfi> z3ro3x: I would say to do a clean install and see if that gets it
[03:24] <Marfi> cn: Stop spamming your question. Did you or did you not edit your sources.list file?
[03:24] <daleharvey> anyone know how to set the dark theme on the new byobu (which was screen-profiles before)?
[03:24] <z3ro3x> Marfi, I ran a clean install with a burned 9.10 RC 64 bit disc.
[03:25] <KurtKraut> Andysalina5, how much I paid for it? 500 USD (in Brazil). It is an Eee PC.
[03:25] <Andysalina5> wow
[03:25] <Marfi> z3ro3x: Did you install the restricted drivers for the mp3's and whatnot?
[03:25] <z3ro3x> Marfi, I was running the RC about a day or two after it came out.
[03:25] <Andysalina5> thats a lot of cash for a celeron.  How much do you want for it?
[03:25] <cn> Marfi, I was having a problem with the paste didn't mean to spam
[03:25] <docgnome> well... this sucks
[03:25] <docgnome> turns out my problem is a known bug
[03:25] <LinuX2half> how long does it take to upgrade Ubuntu?
[03:25] <trism> daleharvey: byobu-select-profile, took me a bit to find it after I upgraded too
[03:26] <cn> marfi I did edit it
[03:26] <anarki2004> I am getting the error "device not found" while trying to dual boot winxp with ubuntu karmic. I am currently booted from a live cd. I ran gparted and identified that the drive I want is /dev/sda/5. Inside of GRUB i used the "root" command and got Error 21: Selected disk does not exist. Anybody know whats going on?
[03:26] <KurtKraut> Andysalina5, eletronics are expensive in latin America, mainly in Brazil.
[03:26] <Marfi> cn: It's okay. But did you edit that file? If so, it loosk like you may have saved it wrong. I would nano -w /etc/apt/sources.list, and look around that line and see if you foobared it
[03:26] <Roasted> Question - After installing Karmic, my 2 backup drives are not mount-able. I have no idea why. sudo blkid says nvidia-raid-member. I NEED the data on these disks. I had two for backups, and both are yielding this. I just... I need the data on them. Period. D one. Over. What did Karmic do?
[03:26] <Andysalina5> Yeah KurtKraut.  I could get the same thing here for under 200$
[03:26] <Marfi> Roasted: apt-cache search raid, and there should be a raidutils to install
[03:26] <trism> daleharvey: you may need to install byobu-extras...not sure
[03:27] <Roasted> marfi - why? what happened? I never set them up as raid - wtf is karmic doing?
[03:27] <Marfi> Roasted: You just said it was in an nvidia-raid
[03:27] <daleharvey> I just found stuff to chuck in screenrc which copies it, cheers
[03:27] <z3ro3x> Marfi, Yes, as I always to.  I listen to a lot of music and watch tv shows and DVDs.  Rhythmbox, Miro and Totem play every thing at the first.  The issue I have is Rhythmbox and Miro will just randomly stop playing and the programs become none-responsive.  Totem seems to be the only one that doesn't do it.
[03:27] <Roasted> marfi - blkid says that. But I didnt do it. I never set these up as raid. Ever. But karmic sees them like that and I have no idea why.
[03:27] <spO> the notebook remix version does not have a amd64 version , only a 32 bit version?
[03:27] <mrc> whats the best prog to remote to vnc/windows from ubuntu?
[03:27] <mikeru> I'm having problems with my USB CD/DVD burner
[03:27] <Marfi> z3ro3x: It could be trying to access a file it cannot see. I would see if there is a bug report for it
[03:28] <z3ro3x> Marfi, Right now I'm using Totem to play my mp3's.
[03:28] <Marfi> Roasted: Try to mount them as the individual disk
[03:28] <Marfi> z3ro3x: But the random crashes?
[03:28] <Andysalina5> well, i came here to ask for someones opinion about upgrading to 9.10.  should i do it?
[03:28] <daleharvey> ok, last question, can I set my terminal to always open as byobu ?
[03:28] <matman1> WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated! << could this be cause i can't do apt-get update ?
[03:28] <Roasted> marfi - I have. No dice.
[03:28] <Roasted> marfi - sudo fdisk -l says /dev/sdc1 and /dev/sdd1 exist. Yet when I try to mount, it says the device doesn't exist.
[03:28] <LiteHedded> i turned on a blur effect with compiz and now my desktop is borked
[03:29] <LiteHedded> how can i revert back that setting?
[03:29] <mikeru> when I try burning an ISO, brasero stays at "Starting to record", and thinks the CD only has 12MB free
[03:29] <Marfi> Roasted: ls /dev/sdc*. What do you see?
[03:29] <k> does anyone know what USE vim-with-x flag is? how to set it?
[03:29] <CorE_> I was doing an upgrade from 9.04 -> 9.10 but the system overheated and shut off in the middle of the upgrade and now things are borked... after doing a chroot from the latest livecd, what can i do to try and fix the system
[03:29]  * mikeru wonders why doesn't it work...
[03:29] <Marfi> Roasted: And is it the only drives? It may be /dev/sda, too
[03:29] <lstarnes> KurtKraut: where do you see that?
[03:29] <Roasted> marfi - below with yellow text, highlighted in black, it just says /dev/sdc
[03:29] <TheCheeze> trism, any other ideas? :(
[03:29] <lstarnes> KurtKraut: sorry, wrong user
[03:29] <kevin___> does anyone know what USE vim-with-x flag is? how to set it?
[03:29] <lstarnes> k: where do you see that?
[03:29] <Marfi> Roasted: Try /dev/sd*
[03:30] <Marfi> Roasted: ls /dev/sd*
[03:30] <Roasted> marfi - Im sorry - what? /dev/sdc1 and /dev/sdd1 are my two 250gb backup drives.
[03:30] <lstarnes> kevin___: is that for gentoo?
[03:30] <matman1> k: are you thinking of gvim ?
[03:30] <Marfi> Roasted: Do you have any other drives, or are they your only ones?
[03:30] <axisys> my core 2 duo with ext3 running 32 bit jaunty took 17 secs to boot.. now same laptop with ext4 and 64 bit karmic take 1 min 6 secs.. is that normal?
[03:30] <kevin___> lstarnes, i see that when attempting to copy from vim in console to os clipboard
[03:30] <LiteHedded> how can i shut off compiz and reset the settings?
[03:30] <almoxarife> !vim
[03:30] <lstarnes> kevin___: you can likely ignore that
[03:30] <Roasted> marfi - I have 4 drives. 1 with vista/Ubuntu, one taht is 500gb, (dev sdb1) and sdc1 and sdd1 which are 250gb drives.
[03:30] <kevin___> matman1, no, vim -- im trying to copy to console using vim
[03:30] <Decessus> ugh. is there an official torrent for karmic?
[03:31] <Marfi> Roasted: Pull one of the 250's out, and boot like that. It won't see them as a raid then
[03:31] <kevin___> lstarnes, do you happen to know how to copy to clipboard using vim while in console?
[03:31] <z3ro3x> Marfi, The programs aren't technically crashing.  They just stop playing music after a while in spite of the fact if I restart Rhythmbox and start playing on the mp3 it froze on it plays fine for a while then locks up again after a minute or two.  The locks ups don't happen the moment I start playing music, they happen after a minute or two after hitting the play button.
[03:31] <Marfi> Roasted: What it may be doing is see that your motherboard supports raid.
[03:31] <d9500> LiteHedded: are you able to get to the gui (gnome/kde, etc) desktop at all? or does logging in drop your straight to terminal?
[03:31] <lstarnes> kevin___: you should be able to copy from it like any other terminal window
[03:31] <seme> christ.. is software center working for anyone... I've tried about 100 installs and nothing works
[03:31] <_atomic> sup?
[03:31] <LiteHedded> no it's black
[03:31] <Marfi> z3ro3x: I've also had it happen to me from a mal-formed ID3 tag
[03:31] <Roasted> marfi - funny you mention that, I thought I remember reading reviews on newegg from people being bummed that my mobo did NOT support it. But who knows.
[03:31] <LiteHedded> I'm in a terminal
[03:31] <lstarnes> kevin___: you may need the vim-full package
[03:31] <kevin___> lstarnes, "should" being the operative word
[03:31] <Roasted> marfi - thanks for your time brosef. I'm gona pull a 250 and see how it looks when I boot up after.
[03:32] <isola73dsh33p> hello guys, i've downloaded the alternate-ubuntu-amd64 iso from 9.10. But its seems couldn't work, telling me it's not the right architecture. But i'm using amd turion X2 64. What could be the cause of the problem and how to solve this?
[03:32] <lstarnes> kevin___: that works for me
[03:32] <z3ro3x> Marfi, mal-formed ID3 tag?
[03:32] <kevin___> lstarnes, hmmm let me get that
[03:32] <brocgiddens> #ubuntu-release-party
[03:32] <BlacKnight> I'm looking for a video encoder All-in-1, easy to use.... i need to reduce the size of some mp4 videos, anyone knows one please?
[03:32] <almoxarife> I use VLC for music and vid, no issues, never crashes
[03:32] <dr3mro> please help me fix my fn f5 f6 ubuntu 9,10 i cant change my volume
[03:32] <brocgiddens> how long before 9.10 hits repos? anyone know?
[03:32] <disappearedng> Hey is there a brightness key for desktop?
[03:32] <Marfi> z3ro3x: If you got it from another country, in my case...anime music, a japanese character in rythmbox could not work
[03:32] <LiteHedded> d9500: any ideas??
[03:32] <lstarnes> brocgiddens: it's already hit the repos
[03:32] <z3ro3x> Marfi, I used the Picard software from the music brainz site to do my tags.
[03:32] <kevin___> lstarnes, hopefully it won't overwrite my .vimrc :-/ ...didn't think about that before downloading ..but we'll c
[03:33] <lstarnes> brocgiddens: but the servers are heavily loaded
[03:33] <lstarnes> kevin___: it won't
[03:33] <_Ubantu_Dude_> Man stay out of #ubuntu-release-party
[03:33] <dr3mro> plz help me to fix aspect ratio of videos that was not here in jaunty
[03:33] <leaf-sheep> isola73dsh33p: Run --> md5sum ubuntu-silly-amd.iso
[03:33] <brocgiddens> lstarnes: thanks
[03:33] <matman1_> WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated! << could this be cause i can't do apt-get update ?
[03:33] <lstarnes> kevin___: to be safe, back it up first
[03:33] <Marfi> z3ro3x: Have any anime or foreign music?
[03:33] <_Ubantu_Dude_> hellow is on a real power trip in there
[03:33] <_Ubantu_Dude_> He gets all mad when I say Ubantu and Loonix
[03:33] <RenatoSilva> Just upgraded to Karmic. Can't remove en_GB in FF! Why? How?
[03:33] <d9500> LiteHedded: ok, so if it drops you straight into terminal, then removing compiz using aptitude might work.
[03:33] <lstarnes> Decessus: see http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors#bt
[03:34] <Lint> wow this junk came out yesterday and it already has 13 MB of updates, great!
[03:34] <_Ubantu_Dude_> O hey Hellow is in this channel
[03:34] <LiteHedded> d9500: would i need to remove the configuration as well?
[03:34] <z3ro3x> Marfi, I think I might.  I live in the states and I have some European music.  But this music was playing fine in 9.04.  What would have changed to mess it up now?
[03:34] <RenatoSilva> Just upgraded to Karmic. Can't remove en_GB in FF! Why? How?
[03:34] <_Ubantu_Dude_> Hellow, I am saying Loonix again
[03:34] <CorE_> ive tried doing dpkg --configure -a --abort-after=999999
[03:34] <CorE_> but i get a list of many many packages with dependancy problems
[03:34] <calebH> Decessus: http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.10/ubuntu-9.10-server-i386.iso.torrent
[03:34] <calebH> Decessus: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors#bt
[03:34] <calebH> Decepticon: ^ the second one has the list of other "official" torrents
[03:34] <trism> TheCheeze: did you try it with just firefox %s? someone else was having problems with rhythmbox where %s wouldn't get substituted unless it had whitespace around it
[03:34] <kevin___> lstarnes, is the vimrc on ubutnu typically stored  in /etc/vim or are there other locations? is there a master and user version of this file?
[03:34] <FloodBot1> calebH: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:34] <calebH> er, Decessus... ^
[03:34] <_Ubantu_Dude_> O NOES
[03:34] <IdleOne> !ot | _Ubantu_Dude_
[03:34] <isola73dsh33p> leaf-sheep, done, but nothing appear. Btw, i'm new to ubuntu
[03:34] <brocgiddens> I have beta and have downloaded live cd iso...there anyway to update from there as opposed to having to do clean install?
[03:34] <RenatoSilva> how to remove an user from the login list?
[03:34] <Decessus> calebH, got it, ty
[03:34] <d9500> LiteHedded: you would need to do a full purge to get rid of the config files, I would think, if a particular plugin's configuration screwed up your desktop.
[03:35] <cdm10> RenatoSilva: without removing the user, you mean?
[03:35] <lstarnes> kevin___: ~/.vimrc for users, /usr/share/vim/vimrc for everyone
[03:35] <leaf-sheep> !md5sum | isola73dsh33p
[03:35] <tmm87> because its u(soft b)oontoo not ubahntu
[03:35] <leaf-sheep> isola73dsh33p: This is great way to find out if you actually downloaded a right ISO. :)
[03:35] <Hellow> Wtf?
[03:35] <lstarnes> RenatoSilva: do you have another language installed in firefox?
[03:35] <TheCheeze> trism, tried that noo... no good
[03:35] <cdm10> tmm87: what's a soft b?
[03:35] <Hellow> Why did _Ubantu_Dude_ follow me here?
[03:35] <_Ubantu_Dude_> HI HELLOW
[03:35] <lstarnes> !ot > _Ubantu_Dude_
[03:35] <mikeru> @IdleOne: I doubt he/she cares. he's trolling in #ubuntu-release-party
[03:35] <dr3mro> does any one have issues with video aspect ratio in karmic and was able to fix it
[03:35] <isola73dsh33p> leaf-sheep, ok, thanks :)
[03:35] <RenatoSilva> lstarnes: yes, en_US, pt_BR and pt_PT, trying to remove this last too
[03:35] <IdleOne> Hellow: he is trolling. ask an op to handle it please
[03:36] <cdm10> lstarnes: he's been trolling #u-r-p for a few hours
[03:36] <RenatoSilva> lstarnes: not en_US, sorry
[03:36] <Hellow> mikeru, I banned him there, he comes and trolls here.
[03:36] <Hellow> !ops
[03:36] <lstarnes> RenatoSilva: what happens when you try to remove them in firefox?
[03:36] <RenatoSilva> cdm10: yes, just remove from the login list
[03:36] <_Ubantu_Dude_> I hope its the op the klined my last 30 tor nodes a few months ago
[03:36] <kevin___> lstarnes, hmm..i've been editing /etc/vim/vimrc ..what is that? (it seems to work when i place new cmmds in there)
[03:36] <_Ubantu_Dude_> he was pretty pissy
[03:36] <notjoe7> my clock is all messed up
[03:36] <lstarnes> kevin___: that's another global vimrc
[03:36] <Marfi> from alcohol import Beer
[03:36] <notjoe7>  45 minuets off and i never touched it
[03:36] <Marfi> ops.beer(10000)
[03:36] <RenatoSilva> lstarnes: I can't remove
[03:36] <matman1_> i'm not liking ubuntu :|
[03:37] <RenatoSilva> lstarnes: remove button is doisabled!
[03:37] <RenatoSilva> lstarnes: disabled!
[03:37] <cdm10> notjoe7: have you enabled NTP?
[03:37] <Hellow> Madpilot, <3
[03:37] <beruchtigte> ubuntu is good ,but my old pc is too slow ,so i removed gnome and installed the openbox
[03:37] <lstarnes> RenatoSilva: they might be installed system-wide instead of just for your user
[03:37] <Magnesium> matman1_: Why not?
[03:37] <Marfi> matman1_: Alright...and why not?
[03:37] <almoxarife> RenatoSilva: remove with synaptic
[03:37] <leaf-sheep> !away > ericm
[03:37] <matman1_> Magnesium: i can't even complete apt-get update it hangs :(
[03:37] <Royall> I'm stuck at 1885/2111 MB downloaded
[03:37] <Royall> for the update
[03:37] <RenatoSilva> the pidgin sounds are weird! sort of being played twice at the same time
[03:37] <notjoe7> cdm10, where abouts. i didnt see it in the panel widget
[03:37] <RenatoSilva> almoxarife: what's the package name
[03:37] <LiteHedded> i think i've reset compiz to defaults. how can i stop it and reload it?
[03:37] <digitrev> Is there anyone who can help me with a linking problem?
[03:37] <d9500> LiteHedded: if you're certain that it's compiz causig the problem, do an apt-cache search for "compiz" (no quotes) make a listing of the packages with compiz in the name, and then run sudo aptitude purge [list of packages you wrote down from the search]
[03:38] <mikeru> I dislike empathy so much : O
[03:38] <matman1_> is it cause of the new release and people updating ?
[03:38] <Roasted> marfi - you were right. pulled a 250 and I was able to mount the single 250. I put the 250 back in and its back to thinking its raid. wtf happened between jaunty and karmic? I made ZERO BIOS adjustments and I dont even think my BIOS supports raid. How can I zap it from ubuntu?
[03:38] <mikeru> I prefer pidgin
[03:38] <RenatoSilva> lstarnes: ok
[03:38] <Magnesium> matman1_: That's weird...is your internet working properly?
[03:38] <RenatoSilva> he pidgin sounds are weird! sort of being played twice at the same time
[03:38] <matman1_> Magnesium: yes
[03:38] <cdm10> notjoe7: that's because the panel widget REALLY sucks. Stupid design decision. Go to System>Admin>Time and Date
[03:38] <notjoe7> all i can do i manually change the dead
[03:38] <matman1_> working great
[03:38] <almoxarife> RenatoSilva: should be same as you stated
[03:38] <cdm10> RenatoSilva: is this the sound design, or a bug?
[03:38] <notjoe7> cdm10, :-/
[03:38] <LiteHedded> it's definitely compiz. it was when i turned on a blur effect
[03:38] <Marfi> Roasted: Drives were the same, so that's hat it thought
[03:38] <Marfi> Gotta run, later!
[03:38] <bastidrazor> matman1_: actually, yes.
[03:38] <RenatoSilva> almoxarife: en_GB???
[03:38] <leaf-sheep> !away > M|ZzZz
[03:38] <matman1_> bastidrazor: are you sure ?
[03:38] <Shabalabadingda> Hello>
[03:39] <tmm87> cdm10: its an implosive consonant
[03:39] <Roasted> Question - does anybody know how I can prevent Ubuntu from thinking 2 of my identical drives are raid when they ARE NOT raid?
[03:39] <Guest35389> Hey, I just upgraded to the Karmic and can't seem to get my wireless working cos of the broadcom driver fix needed
[03:39] <cdm10> notjoe7: there's also a bug in Time and Date -- once you're in Time and Date and have it set to automatically sync with servers, make sure you add a working server like time-a.nist.gov (the default ones have nothing enabled)
[03:39] <RenatoSilva> cdm10: pidgin issue? seems a bug to me, happened after upgrading to karmic
[03:39] <Shabalabadingda> andy?
[03:39] <bastidrazor> matman1_: yes, it has been this way since the release. i'm having the same issues too.
[03:39] <notjoe7> it was set to sync
[03:39] <kevin___> lstarnes, "+"* seems to work for copying from console to console, but what if i wanted to copy from vim to say, gedit
[03:39] <Magnesium> matman1_: So when you run sudo apt-get update, how do you mean it hangs? Sometimes it takes a while the first time...
[03:39] <cdm10> RenatoSilva: oh. hmm -- try changing the sound method and seeing what happens
[03:39] <matman1_> and i keep getting >> WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!
[03:39] <RenatoSilva> cdm10: method?
[03:39] <golbez_jones> www. apparently my HD has many bad sectors after upgrading to karmic.
[03:39] <almoxarife> RenatoSilva: firefox localization ?????
[03:39] <matman1_> ^ could that be cause i haven't completed apt-get update
[03:39] <Guest35389> but when I try plugging in to my router through etherner, i get connected but cant seem to even ping the gateway
[03:39] <Shabalabadingda> HELLO I HAVE AN ANNOUNCEMENT TO MAKE!!!!!!!
[03:39] <Lint> how can I put logout/shutdown command in Application menu?
[03:40] <cdm10> RenatoSilva: yes, method :) in Preferences, in the Sound tab
[03:40] <matman1_> Magnesium: i get several ign and it is stuck at 97%
[03:40] <scott_ino2> Lint, remove the user switcher from the top right of the panel
[03:40] <matman1_> 98% now
[03:40] <matman1_> lol
[03:40] <scott_ino2> and it'll put it there automatically
[03:40] <snth> Using the alternate CD, I can have fully encrypted LVM disk. How Can I have my boot partition on a USB stick. So that the computer won't boot unless from the USB, then it hands off to my internal harddrive.
[03:40] <IdleOne> Shabalabadingda: make it with caps off and only if it is support related
[03:40] <Shabalabadingda> YOU GUYS USE LINUX CAUSE YOUR POOR
[03:40] <RenatoSilva> cdm10: ok, what option?
[03:40] <Shabalabadingda> YOU GUYS USE LINUX CAUSE YOUR POOR YOU GUYS USE LINUX CAUSE YOUR POOR
[03:40] <Shabalabadingda> YOU GUYS USE LINUX CAUSE YOUR POOR
[03:40] <FloodBot1> Shabalabadingda: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:40] <MenZa> !ops | Shabalabadingda
[03:40] <IdleOne> Shabalabadingda: that's right
[03:40] <cdm10> hahaha
[03:40] <RenatoSilva> cdm10: ALSA?
[03:40] <Magnesium> matman1_: OK, the authentication error comes when you don't have the signing keys for some packages...tell me, is it a fresh install?
[03:40] <cdm10> bot got 'im
[03:40] <kevin___> lstarnes, "+y ... there we go :) thanks for your help
[03:40] <RenatoSilva> cdm10: ALSA is working fine
[03:40] <calebH> matman1_: try switching to a different mirror.  Run the "Software Sources" tool, select "Download from: Other" and then press "Select Best Server"
[03:40] <snth> Using the alternate CD, I can have fully encrypted LVM disk. How  Can I have my boot partition on a USB stick. So that the computer  won't boot unless from the USB, then it hands off to my internal  harddrive.
[03:40] <cdm10> RenatoSilva: er, try each one 'till it works :)
[03:40] <RenatoSilva> cdm10: what is this?
[03:41] <notjoe7> ?
[03:41] <cdm10> RenatoSilva: okay, then stick with that :)
[03:41] <cdm10> RenatoSilva: what is what?
[03:41] <aaditya> what's the benefit of setting up LVM while installing ubuntu server?
[03:41] <matman1_> Magnesium: yeah it is a fresh install
[03:41] <Juzzy> aaditya: lvm is awesome
[03:41] <RenatoSilva> cdm10: why changing it maes it work, and what is exactly the 'method'
[03:41] <lstarnes> aaditya: lvm volumes can be more easily resized and moved around
[03:41] <brocgiddens> can I use an ISO of 9.10 live cd to update as opposed to doing a fresh install?
[03:41] <scott_ino2> aaditya, ability to shift volumes and resize them
[03:41] <cdm10> RenatoSilva: method is the sound system that Pidgin uses -- I guess one is buggy.
[03:41] <snth> aaditya: are you asking about the benefits of LVM? :)
[03:41] <titan_ark> can anyone suggest a solution to my problem?
[03:41] <lstarnes> brocgiddens: you will need the alternate cd for that
[03:41] <cdm10> brocgiddens: nope -- you can with the Alternate cd
[03:41] <brocgiddens> dang it
[03:41] <RenatoSilva> cdm10: ok
[03:41] <IdleOne> brocgiddens: use the Alternate cd to upgrade from cd
[03:41] <lstarnes> brocgiddens: or you could use the update manager
[03:41] <cdm10> lstarnes: damn. you got me.
[03:41] <notjoe7> cdm10, how long do i have to wait until the time automaticly adjusts>
[03:41] <c0l2e> will the old GDM splash / login screen compatible to 9.10 ??
[03:42]  * aaditya feels ignorant
[03:42] <mikechelen> snth, create usb startup disk and edit the fstab to mount the harddisk?
[03:42] <aaditya> !lvm | aaditya
[03:42] <brocgiddens> update manager isn't showing anything
[03:42] <cdm10> notjoe7: erm -- more bugginess -- go back to Manual, then hit the little "refresh" button. THEN switch back to Automatic :)
[03:42] <notjoe7> i dont have those
[03:42] <fluid> is there anything to do to go from beta to release?
[03:42] <leaf-sheep> !final | fluid
[03:42] <fluid> ty
[03:43] <snth> mikechelen: I thought about that. But what do I do while I am installing the distro itself on my harddisk when it asks for installing boot loader?
[03:43] <fluid> i figured as much, but i wanted to be sure. :)
[03:43] <snth> Is there a way I can skip this step?
[03:43] <Magnesium> matman1_: Hmmm...can you put up your /etc/apt/sources.list into a pastebin?
[03:43] <aaditya> ok, what does lvm cost?
[03:43] <trism> TheCheeze: I'm just not sure what the problem could be. If it were me, I might try adding a command for a different browser to see if it is a gnome problem or something with firefox
[03:43] <nowimproved> I cant even disable gdm in 9.10 anyone know how?
[03:43] <notjoe7> oh nvm
[03:43] <lstarnes> aaditya: it's free
[03:43] <tomg555> Hello, how do I upgrade to 9.10 from 9.04, from the console?
[03:43] <lstarnes> aaditya: it's available with ubuntu
[03:43] <notjoe7> dumb
[03:43] <matman1_> calebH: well done that worked i switched it to the main server it was set to usa server
[03:43] <c0l2e> I want to change the default login screen with the list of known posix users .. how can I do that now in 9.10 ????
[03:43] <Magnesium> !upgrade | tomg555
[03:43] <mikechelen> snth, what are you trying to do exactly? do you want system files on the hd or usb stick?
[03:43] <_JacK_>  how does tcpdump capture unix socket traffic?
[03:43] <matman1_> Magnesium: seems to be ok now
[03:43] <aaditya> lstarnes: i'm talking about cost in terms of computing resources...
[03:43] <TheCheeze> trism, maybe if i reinstall firefox
[03:44] <aaditya> lstarnes: there are no free lunches, remember? :)
[03:44] <lstarnes> aaditya: not much more than regular partitioning
[03:44] <brocgiddens> tomg555: from terminal try "update-manager -d"
[03:44] <tomg555> okay, thank you
[03:44] <lstarnes> aaditya: the difference in load is most likely negligible
[03:44] <cn> marfi I have looked around, is there a default version of sources.list that I can replace mine with
[03:44] <trakcyia> I have a PDF which seems to download data from the internet on a by request basis (page view leads to page download)
[03:44] <nowimproved> anyone know how to disable gdm in 9.10?
[03:44] <newbie01> hi, does anyone know of an official[looking] page of what's new in 9.10?
[03:44] <RenatoSilva> who told me about synaptic for removing the en_GB in FF?
[03:44] <Magnesium> matman1_: Okay, great...actually, I was temporarily having some problems earlier today as well....ubuntu servers were down from the load.
[03:44] <snth> mikechelen: I want my internal harddisk to be only a file system and fully encrypted. I know that we can't encrypt the boot partition. So, I am thinking about having my boot partition on a USB that I can have in my pocket and know that all of my harddrive data are kinda safe.
[03:44] <trakcyia> Is there a way I can download the PDF as a whole, with all pages located on the local hard rive?
[03:44] <RenatoSilva> lstarnes: can't find any ff package for en_US
[03:44] <trakcyia> ^drive
[03:44] <digitrev> Anyone having any problems with lg2c?
[03:45] <RenatoSilva> lstarnes: do you know howq to remove those langs from FF
[03:45] <lstarnes> RenatoSilva: you'll need to remove the en_GB language support from the whole system, I think
[03:45] <Bwild> Hmmm  [Waiting for headers]  .... Ubuntu 9.04 installer uses us.archive.ubuntu.com for main universe multiverse
[03:45] <shahdharmit> newbie01: get the release notes from Ubuntu site.
[03:45] <lstarnes> RenatoSilva: I may be wrong though
[03:45] <calebH> matman1_: no prob.  Side note: in my past experience I've noticed that sometimes the mirrors won't be updated with package updates as quickly as the main server (usually a day or two behind).  FYI.  If that bothers you, you can switch back to the main server in a few weeks when the big rush is over
[03:45] <newbie01> shahd: release notes?  thanks!!
[03:45] <matman1_> this message is gone to after i completed apt-get update  >> WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!
[03:45] <lstarnes> RenatoSilva: let me check
[03:45] <newbie01> ubuntu rocks!
[03:45] <RenatoSilva> lstarnes: it is listed as just English, as well as the 2 portugueses
[03:45] <leaf-sheep> snth: Sure you can! This is however a complicated progress!
[03:45] <Lint> !ot > newbie01
[03:45] <Bwild> I guess Ubuntu is not on university repos
[03:46] <mikechelen> snth, hmm okay, well then does it matter what bootloader is installed on the hd? if you are going to delete that partition
[03:46] <lstarnes> RenatoSilva: actually, sudo aptitude purge mozilla-firefox-locale-en-gb
[03:46] <cdm10> Lint: that's a bit harsh
[03:46] <matman1_> calebH: well i'm using the main server now and it is ok :p
[03:46] <RenatoSilva> lstarnes: why can't I see that package in synaptic?
[03:46] <t0rc> yeah thats kinda mean
[03:46] <lstarnes> RenatoSilva: it might have a different name
[03:46] <isola73dsh33p> leaf-sheep, there's no such hash in the UbuntuHashes :/
[03:47] <lstarnes> RenatoSilva: I'm checking from 8.04
[03:47] <mikeru> does someone know if LG USB CD/DVD drives are supported ?
[03:47] <Lint> not at all... there is #ubuntu-offtopic for puerile stuff
[03:47] <mikeru> I'd say they're
[03:47] <notjoe7> is /etc/sudoers ever used for multi user systems?
[03:47] <RenatoSilva> lstarnes: ok
[03:47] <leaf-sheep> isola73dsh33p: http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.10/MD5SUMS
[03:47] <snth> mikechelen: No. the HD shouldn't even have bootloader, should it?
[03:47] <lstarnes> notjoe7: of course
[03:47] <calebH> matman1_: cool, enjoy
[03:47] <digitrev> Can anyone point me to a fortran related channel?
[03:47] <notjoe7> all i see in my is root and %admin
[03:47] <snth> leaf-sheep: I am not a beginner :) .. I really need this setup though. :p do you have any thoughts on it?
[03:47] <IdleOne> #fortran??
[03:47] <aaditya> lstarnes: if i use LVM, what's the catch?
[03:48] <lstarnes> mikeru: if they support regular USB Mass Storage Device protocols (almost all devices do), then they should
[03:48] <mikechelen> snth, doesn't sound like it, just the encrypted partition
[03:48] <lstarnes> aaditya: support
[03:48] <leaf-sheep> snth: What happen when if you lost the USB? :o
[03:48] <LiteHedded> how do I restart X?
[03:48] <lstarnes> aaditya: some systems might not support LVM
[03:48] <lstarnes> aaditya: I'm not sure which ones though
[03:48] <snth> leaf-sheep: use the backup usb :p.
[03:48] <aaditya> also, is there an irssi option to hide extraneous joins/parts?
[03:48] <canthus13> LiteHedded: Log out and log back in.
[03:48] <LiteHedded> ctrl alt backspace isn't working
[03:48] <aaditya> lstarnes: it's a new box, so apparently it does
[03:48] <canthus13> LiteHedded: It's been disabled.
[03:48] <lstarnes> aaditya: /ignore #ubuntu joins quits parts nicks
[03:48] <isola73dsh33p> leaf-sheep, my hash fits amd64. O:
[03:48] <IdleOne> !dontzap | LiteHedded
[03:48] <LiteHedded> canthus13: can't do that if compiz is broken
[03:48] <matman1_> what about installing dvd codecs and win32codecs is that in ubuntu repos somewhere ?
[03:48] <Lint> switch it on in keyboard properties
[03:48] <TheFunkbomb> Anyone having issues with 9.10 not recognizing an overclock?
[03:49] <snth> leaf-sheep: it is easy to download a kernel, and make a startup boot USB again. .. it is no biggy
[03:49] <lstarnes> matman1_: it's in the medibuntu repos for ubuntu
[03:49] <canthus13> LiteHedded: Switch to a virtual terminal and kill it from the command line.
[03:49] <mikechelen> LiteHedded, switch to terminal with ctrl+alt+f1 and kill the process
[03:49] <aaditya> lstarnes: thanks
[03:49] <DanaG> SAK has a similar effect?
[03:49] <matman1_> for dvds do i just install libdvdread and run a script
[03:49] <DanaG> Wrong.
[03:49] <c0l2e> Anyone here knows how to change the theme for GDM / Login Window ???/
[03:49] <leaf-sheep> snth: Heh. You'll have to configure stuffs including cryptsetup, crypttab, initfs(sp) and whatnot. It can be pain in the butt. ;3
[03:49] <scott_ino2> TheFunkbomb, what's going on with your cpuspeed
[03:49] <DanaG> SAK causes a kernel panic, for me.
[03:49] <DanaG> Zap does not.
[03:49] <lstarnes> aaditya: I usually don't ignore those in order to prevent confusion
[03:49] <matman1_> lstarnes: where do i find them :\
[03:49] <DanaG> =þ
[03:49] <mikeru> @lstarnes: that's why I'm concerned. I think they do (they should, I've never seen an external USB burner that doesn't) but it won't burn. It reads discs but doesn't burn.
[03:49] <ANTRat> W
[03:49] <DanaG> Similar, my -- ahem, eyeball.
[03:49] <ANTRat> DME
[03:49] <lstarnes> !medibuntu > matman1_
[03:49] <ANTRat> ah ignore me
[03:49] <Termana> DanaG -  are you going to tell everyone that in every room your in? :P
[03:49] <mikeru> @lstarnes: I remembered it burned in older versions of ubuntu
[03:49] <TheFunkbomb> scott_ino2, I OCed my CPU from 2.5ghz to 3.3ghz via the bios.  9.10 still sees it at 2.5ghz
[03:49] <tmm87> just upgraded to karmic and software center isnt there . how do i get it?
[03:49] <ANTRat> screen+capslock are playing tricks on me
[03:49] <snth> leaf-sheep: I am sure it will be pain in the butt. That's why I am here talking to more advanced and smarter people than me to help me go through it :)
[03:50] <RenatoSilva> lstarnes: can't fid anything :(
[03:50] <Termana> DanaG - sorry ignore me
[03:50] <almoxarife> I am of the belief that help should be given first using a gui if avail and then via terminal if not avail, this stress tests the system as a whole and also keeps it simple for us simpletons, thoughts?
[03:50] <leaf-sheep> isola73dsh33p: Meaning your machine aren't capable of running amd64?
[03:50] <RenatoSilva> lstarnes: boring :(
[03:50] <scott_ino2> TheFunkbomb, and you're sure you're not being restricted by cpuspeed
[03:50] <aaditya> lstarnes: i'm inclined towards creating a single partition on this 640GB
[03:50] <Termana> DanaG - I thought I saw it in another channel as well
[03:50] <lstarnes> RenatoSilva: nothing with en-gb in it?
[03:50] <aaditya> lstarnes: would it matter in general?
[03:50] <TheFunkbomb> scott_ino2, I don't understand
[03:50] <lstarnes> aaditya: it might
[03:50] <canthus13> almoxarife: Terminal is much simpler.
[03:50] <leaf-sheep> snth: Well, what do you want to do? I suppose it is easy if you plug in the usb and do the fresh installation and point the usb for /boot.
[03:51] <pingya> hey, does anyone have a problem with totem not playing stuff from youtube?  i get this "Error Looking Up Video URI"
[03:51] <lstarnes> aaditya: I usually keep everything related to ubuntu in one partition with a spare swap partition, but it would probably be a good idea for me to separate /home
[03:51] <scott_ino2> TheFunkbomb, cpuspeed regulates what your cpu runs at are you aware of this? not sure your level of understanding of linux
[03:51] <snth> leaf-sheep: I have a VM running now to test that with. brb.
[03:51] <LiteHedded> what process do i kill?
[03:51] <TheFunkbomb> scott_ino2, it was fine in 9.04.  I upgraded to 9.10
[03:51] <aaditya> lstarnes: got my answer. At this time, single partition. In future, LVM.
[03:51] <aaditya> lstarnes: thanks for your time
[03:51] <leaf-sheep> snth: http://wejn.org/how-to-make-passwordless-cryptsetup.html#ed5e44ec607a374cc7496b66a7e37ce5
[03:51] <calebH> almoxarife: canthus13 is right, in that you can easily copy & paste most commands given here, whereas "click here, click there" instructions can he harder to follow...
[03:51] <oduda> karmic koala installation is very slow
[03:51] <daleharvey> is quick search in synaptic broken for everyone else?
[03:51] <lstarnes> aaditya: you can use multiple partitions without LVM
[03:52] <almoxarife> terminal is great for the terminal efficient types, when there is a gui I wan to use it, if I wanted back to dos I would love to learn linux terminal, my opinion
[03:52] <lstarnes> aaditya: it might be a good idea to keep a separaye swap partition
[03:52] <lstarnes> *separate
[03:52] <aaditya> lstarnes: it's a box i'm preparing for someone else, so I'm avoiding anything that might create a support issue.
[03:52] <aaditya> lstarnes: yes, separate swap of course
[03:52] <LiteHedded> nm got it
[03:52] <webbb82> ok i want to add Option "XAANoOffscreenPixmaps"  to my xorg.conf file to get the best performance from my intel grafix card,  would it mess up my system if i just make a xorg.conf file??
[03:52] <dibblego> does upgrading 8.04 -> 9.10 require the intermediate steps?
[03:53] <leaf-sheep> snth: Basically you would want to place the cryptkey on the usb (in /boot) so crypttab can access and read and unlock the cryptsetup (and lvm if included).
[03:53] <snth> leaf-sheep: haha that's awesome. That was going to be my second question. How to avoid typing in the password, and use a private key or something.
[03:53] <snth> lol
[03:53] <lstarnes> dibblego: yes
[03:53] <almoxarife> daleharvey proves my point, terminal does not see a broken synaptic, I know its not broke but the point is still valid
[03:53] <snth> leaf-sheep: I am going through the installation now. I just wanna see if I can assign the USB to /boot during installation.
[03:53] <dibblego> lstarnes, thanks
[03:54] <scott_ino2> TheFunkbomb, so cat /proc/cpuinfo is showing what... 2.4 as max?
[03:54] <fool_> hey guys, is there a way to check if a user is using ecryptfs ?
[03:54] <leaf-sheep> snth: Complicated complicated. For me, it took me a while before I was able to create a cryptkey and get the machine to read the key off the usb... Otherwise, no boot.
[03:54] <leaf-sheep> snth: Alright.  That link I gave you... helped clearing up lot of things.  Good luck! ^_^
[03:54] <calebH> almoxarife: is there something you need gui help with, or are you just trying to make a point?
[03:55] <oduda> karmic koala is very slow when installing at IBM Thinkcentre / Intel i865g graphics
[03:55] <TheFunkbomb> scott_ino2, it says 1600 mhz
[03:55] <MrSchmo> anyone having issue in 9.10 when running update manager?
[03:55] <leaf-sheep> !anyone | MrSchmo
[03:55] <snth> leaf-sheep: thanks. I am reading through it. And, does that mean you have this setup?
[03:55] <crohakon> Was 9.10 released?
[03:55] <maxxist> so the audio on my intel chipset sounds like crap in karmic now.  I get a pop before and sometimes after any audio is played.  never had this problem in older ubuntu.  anyone have a suggestion?  I have tried switching the audio system back to alsa.  still get the pops...
[03:55] <lstarnes> MrSchmo: if it's taking a long time to update, it's because the mirrors are overloaded due to the release
[03:55] <lstarnes> crohakon: yes
[03:55] <the_hoser> MrSchmo: did you autoselect a mirror?
[03:56] <crohakon> lstarnes; should I bother updating yet? lol
[03:56] <the_hoser> MrSchmo: i mean, did you use the feature to auto-select the fastest mirror?
[03:56] <leaf-sheep> snth: Yeah. XBMC + Encrypted 2TB HDD = WIN!
[03:56] <lstarnes> crohakon: that's up to you
[03:56] <RPG_Master> this stupid little dialog box won't go away :(
[03:56] <lstarnes> crohakon: I'm still on 8.04
[03:56] <pingya> is empathy supposed to have an icon in the notification area in 9.10
[03:56] <RPG_Master> http://imagebin.ca/view/eGl9Ao.html
[03:56] <almoxarife> maxxist: pulse still running?
[03:56] <oduda> join #ubuntu-br
[03:56] <snth> leaf-sheep: haha .. what do you do when you lose your USB?
[03:56] <losha> lstarnes: so am I
[03:56] <crohakon> lstarnes; well, I think I will stick with 9.04 for a while and let them work any bugs out.
[03:56] <maxxist> almoxarife, should i just completely remove it?
[03:56] <zatlite> something's a bit weird, I just upgraded using alternate cd and when I run update manager after the upgrade, it's doing another distro upgrade
[03:56] <brocgiddens> hoser: how do you do that? chose the fastest
[03:56] <matman1_> thanks guys :)
[03:57] <Ed54> http://imgur.com/don6A.png DONT TALK SHIT ABOUT TOTAL!
[03:57] <almoxarife> maxxist: I won't answer that
[03:57] <leaf-sheep> snth: I leave it mounted most of the time and I have a copy of "cloud.key" <-- I named it. <3
[03:57] <Ed54> lol tourettes script
[03:57] <scott_ino2> TheFunkbomb, what does it say for stepping
[03:57] <leaf-sheep> snth: Also, if the USB key is not detected, it'll prompt for passphrase -- but that would mean I have to plug the keyboard in.
[03:57] <bigfootbuilt> On both my PC's, the restart didn't work after the install completed, but I reset it and it still worked ok
[03:57] <TheFunkbomb> scott_ino2, 10
[03:57] <matador95321> how can I backup the PGP keys of the source list . because I want to make a clean installation of ubuntu karmic
[03:57] <trism> pingya: they seem to be disabled by default in karmic, there is probably an option in the prefs to enable it (pidgin in karmic was the same way for me)
[03:57] <RPG_Master> this stupid little dialog box won't go away :(    http://imagebin.ca/view/eGl9Ao.html
[03:57] <maxxist> almoxarife, lol.  i have never had much success with pulse.  thats why i first suspected it.
[03:57] <RPG_Master> Help mah :O
[03:58] <MrSchmo> the_hoser, i dunno even know where to select the auto-select option in update manager
[03:58] <Tekmoor> Hey everyone, I can't seem to burn a cd of 9.10 that doesn't fail the integrity check, anyone know what I can do?
[03:58] <leaf-sheep> snth: It depends on one's setup.  The best thing about linux -- is that it can be customized right down to the core.
[03:58] <mikeru> when acpi=off is used, is a laptop's fan forced to full speed or does it just stay off?
[03:58] <the_hoser> brocgiddens: System > Administration > Software Sources > Click on the box next to "Download From" > Other... > Select Best Server
[03:58] <oduda> leave
[03:58] <trism> pingya: they seem to really want us to use the indicator applet
[03:58] <almoxarife> maxxist: I can say I don't have those issues, but I don't have pulse running
[03:58] <isola73dsh33p> leaf-sheep, i'm not sure what do you mean. :/
[03:58] <oduda> left
[03:58] <the_hoser> MrSchmo read what I said to brocgiddens
[03:58] <snth> leaf-sheep: gotcha, so you do have boot loader setup on your hd as well.
[03:58] <bigfootbuilt> trism...I got rid of that little applet. It seemed redundant
[03:58] <snth> leaf-sheep: just in case the usb isn't mounted.
[03:58] <leaf-sheep> isola73dsh33p: It mean your machine aren't capable of running amd64 if it said that.  Use 32bit instead.
[03:59] <boomernang> Hey, using 9.10. Sound is working fine, however there is no sound in flash. I have an external USB sound card, and I think the reason has to do with 'default' cards.. but for some reason there is no asoundconf anymore. And asoundconf-gtk installs hte pulse audio volume controller that i cant open because it says connection refused.. Any ideas?
[03:59] <scott_ino2> TheFunkbomb, can you humor me and right click on the panel and click add to panel and start the cpu frequency monitor up
[03:59] <brocgiddens> hoser: got it, thanks
[03:59] <maxxist> almoxarife, i have a simpler question then.  how does one make sure pulse is not running?  without removing it.  hehe
[03:59] <almoxarife> maxxist: you will lose the volume applet though, something to consider, unless of course you loaed gnome alsa mixer :)
[03:59] <roffe> I'm trying to mount an ntfs-partition in fstab, but I'm not sure what to write
[03:59] <scott_ino2> TheFunkbomb, and see what the max is there, im guessing its gonna say 2.5, but im just double checking
[03:59] <leaf-sheep> snth: I leave the /boot on the hard drive.  Yes.  However, the crypttab script are written to check for USB key first to load private key, otherwise, fall back to passphrase.
[03:59]  * mikeru wonders about the acpi=off question
[04:00] <almoxarife> maxxist: can't tell you how in karmic, I did it in jaunty, and I don't know what would happen if you followed the directions for jaunty
[04:00] <maxxist> almoxarife, think i am about to try it.
[04:00] <almoxarife> maxxist: good luck
[04:00] <Royall> I broke 2000 MMB
[04:00] <Royall> MB*
[04:01] <Royall> Almost there, almost updated.. how long does it usually take to install all the packages?
[04:01] <phantomcircuit> So I downloaded the 9.10 amd64 cd iso and loop mounted it
[04:01] <TheFunkbomb> scott_ino2, I don't see where it says anything about the max
[04:01] <roffe> How do I mount an ntfs-partition in fstab?
[04:01] <snth> leaf-sheep: hmm, I am trying to decide whether I like this better .. or have an entirely unusable hd if the USB isn't in.
[04:01] <brocgiddens> ok....selected best server....updated repos....
[04:01] <maxxist> almoxarife, my question is really.  If I am experiencing this problem.  wouldnt many people with the intel chipset?  and how would this bug make it into a final release..
[04:01] <scott_ino2> when you click on the applet it should list out the various clock speeds
[04:01] <TheFunkbomb> scott_ino2, what applet?
[04:01] <leaf-sheep> snth: It depends on one's setup.  Like I said earlier. :)
[04:01] <phantomcircuit> shouldnt it pop up?
[04:01] <almoxarife> maxxist: I bet they do, they live with it I guess, I don't want to live with it
[04:02] <John47> Need help- Installed 64-bit Karmic today on my AMD64, and after reboot all I get is grub 1.97 and then a text login prompt to get in to ubuntu.  No graphical OS present.  Not sure what I did wrong.  Anyone have thoughts?
[04:02] <maxxist> almoxarife,  ditto
[04:02] <phantomcircuit> wait
[04:02] <scott_ino2> TheFunkbomb, sorry, I asked if you could just humor me and right-click on your top panel and select "add to panel" then select, "cpu frequency monitor" and hit add
[04:02] <leaf-sheep> snth: I'm planning to get a secondary hard drive -- Mainly for booting / system configuration and leave the large hard drive sole for data storage.
[04:02] <isola73dsh33p> leaf-sheep, but the hash is identical to the one for amd64. :/
[04:02] <phantomcircuit> crap i needed to get the alternate install cd
[04:02] <TheFunkbomb> scott_ino2, I missed that
[04:02] <phantomcircuit> >>>>>>>>>!!!!!!!
[04:02] <TheFunkbomb> hold on
[04:02] <leaf-sheep> isola73dsh33p: I know. And when you boot up the disc, it say what?
[04:03] <brocgiddens> John47: any errors upon boot or during install?
[04:03] <TheFunkbomb> scott_ino2, it was being scaled!
[04:03] <leaf-sheep> snth: So the secondary hard drive will be small as possible (in size). 20GB will be sufficient. :>
[04:03] <TheFunkbomb> thanks
[04:03] <isola73dsh33p> leaf-sheep, nothing, just the dialog for preparing upgrade
[04:03] <scott_ino2> TheFunkbomb, np
[04:03] <brocgiddens> after selecting best servers...still no updates available for me
[04:04] <scott_ino2> TheFunkbomb, that was just easier than using the command line
[04:04] <TheFunkbomb> scott_ino2, so if I restart conky, will it see it was 3.33 ghz now?
[04:04] <mikeru> huh···
[04:04] <webbb82> if i make a xorg.conf file and add Option "XAANoOffscreenPixmaps"    will it mess up my computer,, when i make a xorg.conf file in the past i make it swo i couldnt log in untill i del the xorg.conf file
[04:04] <leaf-sheep> isola73dsh33p: Run 'uname -m' -- What does it say?
[04:04] <John47> brocgiddens: No, no errors.  When I loaded the live cd I got a lot of kernel errors though - I googled and it sounded like when people updated the linux headers that was fixed...
[04:04] <scott_ino2> TheFunkbomb, perhaps... unless there's another issue happening
[04:04] <isola73dsh33p> leaf-sheep, i686 O_O
[04:05] <brocgiddens> John47: has it booted any into GUI after install?
[04:05] <leaf-sheep> isola73dsh33p: That's 32bit. :)
[04:05] <TheFunkbomb> scott, I guess there is one
[04:05] <leaf-sheep> isola73dsh33p: So you downloaded the wrong iso -- You wanted the i386.  >:(|)
[04:05] <isola73dsh33p> leaf-sheep, but why? on my laptop it says amd turion X2 64 D:
[04:05] <sagaci> when's #ubuntu+1 going to be up and running
[04:05] <John47> brocgiddens: No, no GUI.  And no Grub2....weird.  I have my home partition separate, so I formatted the /boot and / partitions when installing the new version.
[04:06] <isola73dsh33p> TT_TT
[04:06] <leaf-sheep> !schedule | sagaci
[04:06] <TheFunkbomb> sorry... scott_ino2 I guess there is one
[04:06] <TheFunkbomb> I'll get this figured out
[04:06] <scott_ino2> TheFunkbomb, I'd check the release notes, maybe they changed something in cpuspeed (which is what regulates cpu frequency)
[04:06] <leaf-sheep> isola73dsh33p: Well -- You burned and run the ISO at bootup, it stopped you right there.
[04:06] <mike999> I'm having an issue in trying to install ubuntu 9.10 as it says not enough room on /boot. I went into Synaptics and removed all the extra kernel headers anything I can do to increase space on /boot ?
[04:06] <TheFunkbomb> scott_ino2, good idea
[04:06] <brocgiddens> John47: also try to login when you get that prompt and see if you can "apt-get update" and "apt-get upgrade" to update the headers you were talking about
[04:07] <courpse> how can i chown a directory and all its files/subdirs at once?
[04:07] <lstarnes> courpse: chown -R
[04:07] <courpse> that does subs as well?
[04:07] <Decessus> yes
[04:07] <lstarnes> courpse: -R = recursive
[04:07] <scott_ino2> -r is usually the recursive option
[04:07] <pingya> trism, yes.  that does seem to be the case
[04:07] <TheFunkbomb> scott_ino2, thanks for your help :)
[04:08] <scott_ino2> np
[04:08] <John47> brocgiddens: oh, now there's an idea....hmmm....not sure if I need to just do this over again, but I was getting kernel errors on both the Karmic RC and now with the final version on 64-bit.  I didn't get those errors initially when I tried the 32 bit version.  Weird
[04:08] <courpse> Yeah, coz i tried that, and i still have locked files.
[04:08] <snth> leaf-sheep: If I decided to encrypt the whole hd, do you know if I still can detect if the hd has free space or not without booting into it?
[04:08] <Decessus> Is there anyway I can use gparted to format a thumb drive without having to have root to use said thumbdrive?
[04:08] <isola73dsh33p> leaf-sheep, u mean i should burn the iso into a cd?
[04:08] <leaf-sheep> isola73dsh33p: How did you try to install by the way?
[04:09] <leaf-sheep> isola73dsh33p: Yes, that was the idea.
[04:09] <brocgiddens> John47: you could try login and update or just simply reinstall as long as you have nothing critical you'd lose....if all else fails go back to 32 bit, personally I have RC or 64 bit and no probs
[04:09] <John47> brocgiddens: Thanks so much for your tip - I will give it a shot and check back! :-)
[04:09] <isola73dsh33p> on desktop, using mount -o loop <iso location>
[04:09] <scott_ino2> Decessus, ummm a live cd
[04:09] <leaf-sheep> snth: You'll have to access in to see the content first.
[04:09] <brocgiddens> John47: good luck
[04:09] <webbb82> if i make a xorg.conf file do i have to capitalise the x i Xorg
[04:09] <isola73dsh33p> leaf-sheep, on desktop, using mount -o loop <iso location>
[04:09] <ryanCH> how come my widgets won't stay in place on a reboot, in KDE?
[04:10] <Scunizi> webbb82: no. if you do it will not work
[04:10] <scott_ino2> webbb82, the correct path is /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:10] <Decessus> scott_ino2, but, gparted is not an included program and you need the superuser pass to use it anyway
[04:10] <boomernang> Hey, using 9.10 and konqueror. Flash video is fine. Kde/mp3 Sound is working fine, however there is no sound in flash. I have an external USB sound card, and I think the reason has to do with 'default' cards.. but for some reason there is no asoundconf anymore. And asoundconf-gtk installs the pulse audio volume controller.. but i cant even open that because it says connection refused.. Any ideas? (I've already tried installing alsa
[04:10] <boomernang> -oss and libflashsupport)
[04:10] <b0w> helloo! im using ubuntu 9.04, i got an iomega external drive, always used in a mac, but now when i connect it to ubuntu i dont have write permissions, never protected it on mac or something like that
[04:10] <scott_ino2> Decessus, might have to use something else then like knoppix
[04:10] <scott_ino2> that has it
[04:10] <webbb82> ok    last time i made one and add'd  stuff when i went to reboot it wouldnt let me log in until i del the xorg file
[04:11] <Decessus> And anyway, I find it very silly to have to boot into another instance just to format a flash drive ;\
[04:11] <leaf-sheep> isola73dsh33p: Well -- Make a backup of your precious data.  Burn the ISO to the disc.  Reboot with disc inside.  If things goes fine, you can install Ubuntu amd64.  Otherwise, it would halt and say wrong architecture.
[04:11] <webbb82> and add Option "XAANoOffscreenPixmaps"    to my xorg
[04:11] <b0w> helloo! im using ubuntu 9.04, i got an iomega external drive, always used in a mac, but now when i connect it to ubuntu i dont have write permissions, never protected it on mac or something like that
[04:11] <obiwan_> b0w maybe you mounted it without write permissions please w8 a mmoment
[04:11] <scott_ino2> Decessus, formatting requires root privileges ... it's built that way for a reason, is this not your comp?
[04:11] <icehawk78> So, I'm trying to make an image of my hard drive, but when I boot in to my 9.10 live CD, neither the "software center" nor apt-get can seem to install partimage.
[04:12] <zodiacpup> Hello. Could anyone help me with a Sony Memory Stick?
[04:12] <b0w> obiwan_: i just plug in the usb, didnt set any particular mount options
[04:12] <isola73dsh33p> leaf-sheep, looks like i need to buy a cd. TT_TT.. anyhow thanks very much for the help :)
[04:12]  * scott_ino2 is so glad i don't have to esplain fstab to users anymore... at least for the most part
[04:13] <b0w> zodiacpup: maybe they can help more if you tell what the problem is
[04:13] <Decessus> scott_ino2, no, it is my computer, but there is a difference between hd* and sd*, so I think for plug and play drives there should be an exception, or at the least, not set it's owner to root when it's formatted.
[04:13] <bigfootbuilt> Can anybody explain the difference between "aBrowser" and Firefox? Sure looks the same to me
[04:13] <Beastmode> HI everyone
[04:13] <obiwan_> b0w: use mode=0777
[04:13] <obiwan_> b0w: or mode=0700
[04:14] <Beastmode> Does anyone know how to stream nzb's in ubuntu?
[04:14] <b0w> bigfootbuilt: i think abrowser was the name firefox 3.5 it got on ubuntu 9.04
[04:14] <leaf-sheep> isola73dsh33p: You could do installation from USB.  Nevertheless, do back up your PRECCCIOUS DATA first.
[04:14] <zodiacpup> b0w: I started the computer with the memory inserted in the slot, but nothing is shown, when I switch it to an SD card, it does appears, but I don't know if I need any drivers or what.
[04:14] <tristan_> hello
[04:14] <scott_ino2> Decessus, didn't think it did that... or shouldn't at least
[04:14] <MasterofPuppets> Hi there. I'm in File Backup Manager and I'm trying to back up to my USB key, but it's telling me that I don't have permission. What do I do?
[04:14] <obiwan_> i tristan
[04:14] <vikb>  is there anything one can do to make the karmic koala repositories faster
[04:14] <b0w> obiwan_: ok, hahaha how can i do that?
[04:14] <obiwan_> w8 for d3 tristan_  ehehe
[04:14] <Decessus> scott_ino2, unfortunately, it does ;(
[04:14] <icehawk78> Should I not be trying to use partimage for making an image, or is that not the package name?
[04:15] <vikb> I am not able to upgrade even with a considerably faster connection
[04:15] <bradpitt> vikb : choose the best mirror..
[04:15] <Decessus> or it has every time I've used it
[04:15] <leaf-sheep> vikb: Shut the computer down.  Wait a week.  Boot up and retry. :)
[04:15] <scott_ino2> Decessus, just chmod the drive and be done with it if you have root access :)
[04:15] <icehawk78> Oh, nevermind, all betterish now.
[04:15] <obiwan_> b0w: use the mount like always, but with the mode=0777 value in it, for example mount.ext4 /dev/sdb /mount/point mode=0777
[04:15] <vikb> bradpitt: I did an upgrade from update manager it does not let me choose a mirror
[04:16] <Decessus> scott_ino2, I did that, but when that was done, it wouldn't auto mount
[04:16] <b0w> zodiacpup: after plugging it in type dmesg and check if its recognizing it
[04:16] <jeffhmb> gack ... apt-get update doesn't complete on my jaunty install.
[04:16] <isola73dsh33p> leaf-sheep, how can i boot from USB?
[04:16] <vikb> leaf-sheep:  Waiting for a week.... Sky will fall on my head ;)
[04:16] <b0w> obiwan_: ok let me give it a try
[04:16] <zodiacpup> b0w: in the terminal?
[04:16] <leaf-sheep> b0w: You want to chown your USB to get write access.
[04:16] <tmm87> ubu-noob: ?
[04:16] <William-Ubuntu> can i upgrade to 9.10 stable from beta? how?
[04:16] <Decessus> isola73dsh33p, first step is making sure your bios allows boot from usb
[04:17] <scott_ino2> Decessus, weird... never had that happen
[04:17] <mage__> my cron isn't running by default
[04:17] <obiwan_> ok b0w that's the only possible solution i know, if that doesn't work i can't help more :/
[04:17] <leaf-sheep> !final | William-Ubuntu
[04:17] <b0w> obiwan_: ok let me give it a try, but mounting it on ext4 wouldnt make some problem on the external drive when i connect it back to a mac?
[04:17] <bradpitt> vikb : system->administration->software sources and then choose the mirror near you.
[04:17] <leaf-sheep> isola73dsh33p: It is complicated.  You're better off using a blank disc. :)
[04:17] <b0w> leaf-sheep: yeah thats what i want
[04:17] <lakcaj> Hello.  Anyone here use dnscache-run?  I installed the package, and it is listening on 127.0.0.1, but I want it to listen on my network addy so the other machines on this network can use it.
[04:17] <Decessus> scott_ino2, yeah, It may have been a bad install, but it is very annoying lol
[04:17] <isola73dsh33p> Decessus, how to make sure?
[04:17] <Beastmode> can someone please help me with streaming nzb's while they are downloading? or keeping incomplete rar extracts. I usually like to see the quality of the movie before downloading to save bandwidth. thanks
[04:17] <scott_ino2> Decessus, well im sorry... seems it's an odd situation and quite frustrating
[04:18] <obiwan_> noe b0w , but that was an example, you must substitute the fields with your disk values, if it's fat 32, then mount.vfat and if it's on sdc1 then /dev/sdc1
[04:18] <leaf-sheep> b0w: "cd /media ; ls -l" --> List what?
[04:18] <b0w> yeah its ntfs
[04:18] <William-Ubuntu> thnaks leaf-sheep
[04:18] <Acegi> Hi got some problems trying to log in. The shell keeps "flashing" after I ran envyng to int
[04:18] <b0w> give me a sec ill be back
[04:18] <Decessus> isola73dsh33p, you will have to shut down your computer and get into your bios setup, then in boot device priority, check to see if 'usb device' or 'other device' is present (I find this method easier than googling it)
[04:18] <Acegi> to install ati drivers.
[04:18] <mikechelen> Beastmode, what usenet client are you using?
[04:19] <obiwan_> ok b0w  then mount.ntfs
[04:19] <Acegi> I can't get into the GDM stage
[04:19] <Beastmode> mikechelen, i got a couple that i have tried on ubuntu (just switched from windows). I have pan, klibido, and nzb
[04:19] <isola73dsh33p> Decessus, thanks :)
[04:20] <MasterofPuppets> Hi there. I'm in File Backup Manager and I'm trying to back up to my USB key, but it's telling me that I don't have permission. What do I do?
[04:20] <bradpitt> vikb : and after you reload. open the terminal and then type sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[04:20] <leaf-sheep> MasterofPuppets, You're having same problem as b0w does.  Run "cd /media ; ls -l" --> It lists what?
[04:20] <boknoy> hi guys, where can I get the loadbar for clearlooks? I want to use it as a loadbar in flash...
[04:21] <Acegi> Everytime I try to type anything even 1 keypress it is sent elsewhere (to the top left of the screen where there is a flashing cursor)
[04:21] <isola73dsh33p> leaf-sheep, btw, does the usb needs to be empty? I mean should it just containt the iso?
[04:21] <daleharvey> wow, my emacs is really slow
[04:21] <onats> what's a good wiki/blog that i can install locally to collect my notes/procedures? thanks
[04:21] <MasterofPuppets> leaf-sheep: Messaged you it
[04:21] <zodiacpup> b0w: did the dmesg, what should I look for?
[04:21] <daleharvey> like, I can see the redraw happen when I page up / down
[04:21] <Decessus> isola73dsh33p, yes, the device should start empty
[04:21] <daleharvey> firefox seems really fast
[04:22] <leaf-sheep> isola73dsh33p: It will have to be empty. It should not contain the ISO.
[04:22] <leaf-sheep> !usb | isola73dsh33p
[04:22] <Madpilot> onats, Tomboy is great
[04:22] <airforceguy> guys how to update from ubuntu beta to the offical version? please advise
[04:22] <rxd> i was right ubuntu going to implement it :)
[04:22] <leaf-sheep> MasterofPuppets: The USB label is 'Backup' ?
[04:22] <onats> Madpilot, googling, thanks..
[04:22] <Scunizi> airforceguy: keep doing your updates.... that's it
[04:22] <MasterofPuppets> leaf-sheep: Yes
[04:22] <Madpilot> airforceguy, just update, you'll be fine
[04:22] <zey> hi
[04:22] <rxd> anyone has 9.10 now? try mount any squashfs sfs file
[04:22] <isola73dsh33p> leaf-sheep, ok thanks :D
[04:22] <zey> i can not upgrade my ubuntu to 9.10
[04:22] <Madpilot> onats, it's in Ubuntu's repositories, just install and starting playing
[04:23] <mikechelen> Beastmode, maybe try lottanzb? dunno which has that feature
[04:23] <rxd> mount -t squashfs wine.sfs /wine -o loop
[04:23] <onats> ill take a look at it first, to minimize clutter
[04:23] <airforceguy> scunizi: when i type sudo apt-get update it's giving me an error..is there any other command line for terminal to update
[04:23] <rxd> mount -o remount,append:/wine /
[04:23] <onats> ahh thats the post its style right?
[04:23] <rxd> now you get your wine working
[04:23] <zey> ???
[04:23] <bradpitt> zey : i personally recommend a fresh install. make sure you back up your data first.
[04:23] <leaf-sheep> MasterofPuppets: Do "sudo chown $USER:$USER /media/Backup"
[04:23] <Mowind> guys I installed karmic and now my hard drive is failing :(
[04:24] <nowimproved> when I type alsamixer in terminal it says alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No s on 9.10
[04:24] <onats> i need a blog / wiki type
[04:24] <mikechelen> onats, try zim or tomboy notes
[04:24] <zey> @brad : should i do fresh install instead upgrade?
[04:24] <boknoy> or could you give me the default gtk theme name in Gnome? and where can I get the widgets?
[04:25] <onats> id also like to be able to attach images, files, etc..
[04:25] <lockd> boknoy: the default theme is Raleigh, but it's definitely not Ubuntu's default
[04:25] <leaf-sheep> MasterofPuppets: How is it going on your side?
[04:25] <onats> i've done so many things to my machines, but i haven't documented any
[04:26] <boknoy> lockd, thanks, where can I get the loadbar?
[04:26] <MasterofPuppets> leaf-sheep: says "invalid group, then my name follow by USER"
[04:26] <lockd> boknoy: loadbar?
[04:26] <mikechelen> onats, you can run a local copy of any blog or wiki software
[04:26] <amagee> hey i've just gone to try and upgrade my 9.04 system to 9.10, by typing "sudo update-manager -d", but it tells me "This is still a BETA release." .. what's up?
[04:26] <preecher> airforceguy, sudo apt-get update and then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:26] <leaf-sheep> MasterofPuppets: Hmm. Run "echo $USER"
[04:26] <MasterofPuppets> leaf-sheep: "No such file or directory"
[04:26] <mikeo> is it possible to take an existing ubuntu install, pull the hard drive, and then boot it in vmware?
[04:26] <onats> mikechelen, got any good suggestions? that's easy to install actually:)
[04:26] <boknoy> lockd, the alternating loadbar image
[04:27] <mikeo> i have an ubuntu server, and the hardware has failed, looking to virtualize the whole install
[04:27] <ikk-> amagee:  update-manager --help
[04:27] <_Dasda> guys i have a problem. everytime i try to download nzb's in ubuntu. My router messes up and has to be reset
[04:27] <kwinz> Hi!
[04:27] <kwinz> Everybody with an adobe account please vote this bug report up:
[04:27] <kwinz> http://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/FP-204
[04:27] <kwinz> It is webcam support in flash for ubuntu.
[04:27] <kwinz> If you do not have an account please take some time to sign up.
[04:27] <FloodBot1> kwinz: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:27] <kwinz> Thank you!
[04:27] <volnte> anyone know if this bug is getting fixed? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-panel/+bug/152091
[04:27] <amagee> ikk-: ah, good point, i was blindly following somethnig from stackoverflow
[04:27] <jeffhmb> mikeo: it's a hell of a lot easier to do with linux than with windows
[04:27] <`brandon`> how do i restart a file
[04:27] <b0w> leaf-sheep: done that command, should i paste you the output on a private msg?
[04:27] <lockd> boknoy: I don't know of any "load bar" unless you referr to the progress bar
[04:27] <veggteppe> Hey, Having some issues opening a program from the termial, i've cd'd to the dir, and i do ./name. But getting "No such file or dir" error:S any ideas?
[04:27] <deadlyninja> how can i make my wifi connection permanent instead of requiring an X session?
[04:27] <mikeo> jeffhmb: so it is possible?
[04:27] <leaf-sheep> MasterofPuppets: You want to chown your USB -- sudo chown username:username /media/Backup
[04:27] <deadlyninja> im having a hard time finding anything related to networking other than gui options
[04:28] <leaf-sheep> b0w: Sure.
[04:28] <boknoy> lockd, yeah the progress bar ^^;
[04:28] <jeffhmb> definitely, yes. I haven't done it with ubuntu or a recent kernel, but it should work.
[04:28] <ikk-> amagee: :)
[04:28] <onats> deadlyninja, use iwconfig
[04:28] <mikeo> jeffhmb: also will all the programs/services/etc still be configured propertly?
[04:28] <t0rc> my desktop icons disappeared...
[04:28] <mikeo> ok cool
[04:28] <mikeo> i'll have to test it out
[04:28] <t0rc> any help? I can't right-click on the background either
[04:28] <bradpitt> zey : its all up to you. if you're on dual-boot you may want to use upgrade instead of fresh install unless you have back up your data. but if you're on single boot like me i recommend you to do fresh install, make sure you back up your data first. unless you have different home and / partitions.
[04:28] <onats> deadlyninja, its a command line tool you can use to connect wifi
[04:28] <zodiacpup> So, any ideas on how to make my memory stick to work?
[04:28] <deadlyninja> onats, im looking to use wpa supplicant
[04:28] <mikeo> should be a lot easier to maintain and backup too as i'll be able to image it
[04:28] <vikb> bradpitt: Cool it seems to be faster thank you :)
[04:28] <b0w> leaf-sheep: the iomega drive its the one giving problems
[04:28] <deadlyninja> onats, and i dont want to write the scripts manually, i know there are config files i can edit
[04:28] <kwinz> hi @ all i do not know if you got this because the bot complained:
[04:28] <kwinz> Everybody with an adobe account please vote this bug report up:
[04:28] <`brandon`> Hello, how do i restart a file
[04:28] <jeffhmb> mikeo: I think so. You may have issues with certain devices, but that would be true with a clean linux VM install
[04:28] <kwinz> http://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/FP-204
[04:28] <bradpitt> vikb : np. have fun :)
[04:28] <onats> deadlyninja, i thnk that works too..
[04:28] <lstarnes> kwinz: we got it
[04:29] <kwinz> It is webcam support in flash for ubuntu.
[04:29] <boknoy> lockd, wait is raleight the ugly theme root uses? I'm referring to the nice blue and rounded theme.
[04:29] <lockd> boknoy: it'll be in /usr/share/themes/ThemeName/gtk-2.0
[04:29] <peepsalot> i have a problem playing some videos.  they show up with all the colors in negative.  I can't find a single media player that will show them correctly, any ideas?
[04:29] <mikeo> jeffhmb: its main use is a lamp server, so i don't really care if the GUI is all messed up
[04:29] <lstarnes> kwinz: please remember that this channel is for support.  you probably want #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:29] <_Dasda> can someone help me regards to router being messed up when downloading nzb's in ubuntu? Router doesnt mess up if i use windows to download nzb though.
[04:29] <cxo> I updated to 9.10 beta, from 9.04, now how do i update to 9.10 release?
[04:29] <lstarnes> !final  cxo
[04:29] <jeffhmb> I did it with an old Fedora server many years ago, and it's still running in a VM on my ubuntu server. It does mail, imap, basic web, etc.
[04:29] <lstarnes> er
[04:29] <MasterofPuppets> leaf-sheep: Ok, that worked, but now the USB is saying that there are files on it that can't be removed... a folder called "lost + found"
[04:29] <boknoy> lockd, thanks :)
[04:29] <lstarnes> !final | cxo
[04:29] <peepsalot> in the file properties, it says the codec is "Microsoft Windows Media 9"
[04:29] <ikk-> cxo:  It is auto
[04:30] <mikeo> awesome, i'll have to test it out when I get some freetime, thanks
[04:30] <leaf-sheep> MasterofPuppets: That's normal. Ignore that folder. :)
[04:30] <jeffhmb> mikeo: you should be fine.
[04:30] <kwinz> lstarnes: thank you for the clarification
[04:30] <jeffhmb> mikeo: are you going to use virtualbox or VMware?
[04:30] <mikeo> not sure yet
[04:30] <MasterofPuppets> leaf-sheep: It wants to delete it, though, and it can't, so it just stops the action :(
[04:30] <titan_ark> exit
[04:30] <titan_ark> ?exit
[04:30] <leaf-sheep> MasterofPuppets: Hmm, run the command again with -R (for recursively).
[04:30] <lockd> boknoy: raleigh is when the user has no theme set (i.e. default), and root doesn't have a theme set
[04:30] <JonathanEllis> I am installing Karmic desktop and I have got as far as the partitioner. I intend to select the option to use the largest continuous free space as I want to dual boot with windows (yes, I know!). Will this option automatically generate an appropriately sized swap partition or should I specify the partitions manually?
[04:30] <mikeo> thinking about using vmware player
[04:30] <boknoy> lockd, oh, so what]
[04:30] <jeffhmb> Are you going to continue using the disk or are you going to turn it into an image and still it on a new disk
[04:30] <leaf-sheep> MasterofPuppets: chown -R <--- same stuffs here
[04:31] <lockd> boknoy: was just mentioning it so you'd know that's not the one you want
[04:31] <Jeruvy> volante: that particular bug was marked invalid, not sure why but the duplicate is now in triaged state so the best answer is 'maybe'.
[04:31] <jeffhmb> vmware player only works with an existing VMware image
[04:31] <bradpitt> peepsalot : ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[04:31] <boknoy> lockd, sorry, pressed enter too fast. I meant to say: "So what's the name of the theme? I think it's murrine"
[04:31] <MasterofPuppets> leaf-sheep: Now it says that it can't remove /media/Backup, permission denied
[04:31] <jeffhmb> you need vmware server or workstation to create it.
[04:31] <cxo> thanks lstarnes
[04:31] <mikeo> its a 320gb sata disk, so i was planning on just plugging it into my desktop...
[04:31] <_Dasda> Can someone please help me with nzb issues in ubuntu? thanks
[04:31] <mikeo> and then maybe imaging that
[04:31] <S1aw> hi ppl
[04:31] <MightyTweek> JonathanEllis, no, you need to tell it to only use as much as the drive as you want it to
[04:31] <mikechelen> onats, mediawiki or docuwiki are good and easy to install, they are more system intensive though since it uses a full web server
[04:31] <leaf-sheep> MasterofPuppets: What was the command? Since you're trying to remove stuffs? o.O
[04:31] <boknoy> lockd, I was supposed to type ' but accidentally pressed enter :)
[04:32] <jeffhmb> mikeo: ok, I suggest you check the docs for whatever VM solution you are going to use.
[04:32] <S1aw> i updated to 9.10 and didnt update my menu.lst and now it boots the wrong kernal
[04:32] <lockd> boknoy: I have no idea, use Appearance to see what theme you have set. the Ubuntu default is "Human"
[04:32] <MasterofPuppets> leaf-sheep: I'm in File Backup Manager, I have it set to backup to /media/Backup. But it won't backup without erasing over everything on the drive, which is lost + found
[04:32] <peepsalot> bradpitt, ah, i just found the answer through google, for some reason the hue slider in the preferences got set all the way to the left, whereas it should have been in the middle
[04:32] <MightyTweek> _Dasda, what's the issue?
[04:32] <jeffhmb> mikeo: all the info for running off of an existing disk vs. an image should be there.
[04:32] <boknoy> lockd, ok thanks, I'll check it. :)
[04:32] <S1aw> could someone tell me what options i should put in
[04:32] <mikeo> yeah will do
[04:32] <BlackEyes> hi every one
[04:32] <mikeo> thanks for the help
[04:32] <mikechelen> _Dasda, maybe try lottanzb? dunno which has that feature
[04:32] <leaf-sheep> MasterofPuppets: You could remove it manually.
[04:32] <jeffhmb> mikeo: no problem, best of luck
[04:33] <JonathanEllis> MightyTweek: You mean it wont generate a swap partition? It will just fill up the free space with my root partition?
[04:33] <S1aw> can i just point it to the kernal or do ihave to know the uuid aswell?
[04:33] <_Dasda> MightyTweek: Everytime I try downloading nzb's in ubuntu. I get disconnected from internet and router has to be reset
[04:33] <agoole> karmic just installed, and now I can't login, anyone help ?
[04:33] <leaf-sheep> MasterofPuppets: Use "sudo rm -r /media/Backup/lost<tab to autocomplete>"
[04:33] <_Dasda> mkechelen, ok ill try searching for lottanzb
[04:33] <MightyTweek> JonathanEllis, I believe that's correct
[04:33] <mikechelen> _Dasda, sounds like a router problem, maybe try throttling download?
[04:33] <MasterofPuppets> leaf-sheep: I didn't have to, it started working after I kept asking it to lol
[04:33] <MightyTweek> _Dasda, you might want to see if there is updated firmware for your router
[04:33] <MasterofPuppets> leaf-sheep: I still appreciate everything you've done though, thanks! :)
[04:34]  * MasterofPuppets is so excited to install Karmic
[04:34] <deadlyninja> how can i make my wifi connection permanent (using wpa_supplicant) instead of requiring an X session?
[04:34] <JonathanEllis> MightyTweek: Thanks. For a machine with only 1GB of RAM what is a sensible size for the swap partition?
[04:34] <leaf-sheep> MasterofPuppets: No problem. :)
[04:34] <BlackEyes> i am new to linux, running ubuntu 8.04, trying to figure out how to get my mp3's to play
[04:34] <agoole> can anyone help me fix my login issues with karmic ?
[04:34] <KB1JWQ> JonathanEllis: 2 gigs.
[04:34] <_Dasda> mikechelen: it only happens if i use my laptop (ubuntu) to download nzb's. My desktop downloads them fine without messing up router
[04:34] <leaf-sheep> MasterofPuppets: What backup package are you using?
[04:34] <JonathanEllis> KB1JWQ: Thanks
[04:34] <_Dasda> MightyTweek: yea I have the latest firmware installed
[04:35] <leaf-sheep> !fstab | b0w
[04:35] <lockd> BlackEyes: and does other music play?
[04:35] <jeffhmb> agoole: more details....
[04:35] <Jeruvy> !mp3 | BlackEyes
[04:35] <MightyTweek> JonathanEllis, I think the installer creates swap as a file rather than a separate partition now, don't quote me on that though
[04:35] <jimbeam12> hey wsup dudes and duddetes
[04:35] <agoole> jeffhmb: I just updated and I see a login script, but thats it, it doesn't load anything past that,
[04:35] <agoole> jeffhmb: using terminal irssi right now
[04:35] <jimbeam12> everyone partying after the release of 9.10
[04:35] <lockd> by the way gst-ffmpeg can handle everything FFMpeg can, right?
[04:36] <pooky1> hi
[04:36] <jeffhmb> agoole: are you saying that X doesn't startup?
[04:36] <jeffhmb> agoole: in other words, you can login at a virtual console, but no X (gdm)
[04:36] <MasterofPuppets> leaf-sheep: Sorry, what do you mean? What backup set?
[04:36] <agoole> jeffhmb: it does, I see a login window, and when I hit the login it just freezes
[04:36] <leaf-sheep> MasterofPuppets: I mean the /media/Backup -- What app does that? ;o
[04:36] <agoole> jeffhmb: X starts up, but freezes after I login
[04:37] <stuck1> Hello
[04:37] <jeffhmb> agoole: then you c-a-F1 to go to a text console?
[04:37] <agoole> jeffhmb: can't restart it from the console either
[04:37] <MightyTweek> _Dasda, not sure what to tell you, except it sounds like a router issue
[04:37] <daleharvey> I  saved a desktop profile, now ubuntu freezes when its loading the stuff that was saved
[04:37] <BlackEyes> lockd: movies play fine, downloaded the ubuntu restricted formats through the package manager, even downloaded audacious and amarok just to see if maybe it was the program i was using
[04:37] <agoole> jeffhmb: yup, in here now
[04:37] <stuck1> I stumped on sshfs
[04:37] <snach14914> anyone install the 9.10 netbook remix? can u please pm me with help...
[04:37] <daleharvey> if I login to recover mode, what can I delete for it to forget the saved session
[04:37] <leaf-sheep> !sshfs | stuck1
[04:37] <jeffhmb> agoole: anything running as your userid besides your current shell (ps -ef).
[04:37] <mikechelen> BlackEyes, try VLC as well
[04:38] <lockd> BlackEyes: and audio does work with the movies?
[04:38] <jimbeam12> hmm have a problem i got 2 monitor..i can move stuff from one windows to another no problem..but when i try to move my mouse over to the right hand monitor i cant..
[04:38] <BlackEyes> lockd: yes, audio works fine
[04:38] <agoole> jeffhmb: yes I see a ton of stuff, apache among other things
[04:38] <Loafers> Has anybody else noticed that wifi is slow on Karmic?
[04:38] <ManateeLazyCat> Hey, guys, how to change gdm themes in Ubuntu 9.10?
[04:38] <mike999> Anyone with 2 Nvidia cards and 3 monitors connected through DVI and have a working xorg.conf + xinemera please msg me
[04:38] <Loafers> !gdm
[04:38] <MasterofPuppets> leaf-sheep: Um, the application? It's called File Backup Manager
[04:39] <BlackEyes> lockd: ill give vlc a quick dl see how it treats me
[04:39] <stuck1> Yep I'm confused... Does client create username for himself on remote computer with sshfs first and then adds himself to fuse group?
[04:39] <jeffhmb> agoole: try "ps -fu agoole" (or whatever your username is on the box
[04:39] <MasterofPuppets> leaf-sheep: Or do you mean, how did I name the USB drive "Backup"?
[04:39] <Brent> how do i disable chat logging in empathy?
[04:39] <JonathanEllis> I am setting up Karmic desktop dual booting with windows. Windows is already installed in the first primary partition. I am manually setting partitions as I want a swap partition. The only other partition will be the ubuntu root partition. Since there will only be three partitions is it best to use primary partitions so I can resize them at will if I later decide that windows is taking up too much space?
[04:39] <stuck1> Just not sure
[04:39] <leaf-sheep> MasterofPuppets: Ahh -- Neermind. I was curious. ;)
[04:39] <b0w> leaf-sheep: thanks, ill check fstab out
[04:39] <karmii> where can i download the alternated cd from for 9.10? i am currently using 8.10
[04:39] <dooglus> stuck1: I use sshfs
[04:39] <agoole> jeffhmb: I got 2 things mostly, bash and irssi, but I think i just killed the display not too long ago
[04:39] <jeffhmb> agoole: ok, that's fine
[04:39] <JonathanEllis> Oh. Actually there will be four partitions as I put a separate swap partition in for windows
[04:40] <MasterofPuppets> leaf-sheep: Sorry, I'm a complete Linux nub :(
[04:40] <leaf-sheep> karmii: http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.10/
[04:40] <n8tuser> karmii-> perhaps wait a week or two, alternatecd is not usually ready at 1st day
[04:40] <jeffhmb> agoole: have you tried startx?
[04:40] <dooglus> stuck1: to make my friend's filesystem appear inside my home, I just "sshfs him:/ ~/him"
[04:40] <agoole> jeffhmb: yeah, it switches over to the display but I just get a black screen
[04:40] <pooky1> l
[04:40] <BlackEyes> going to take a while for me to get used to using a manager and or compiling my programs
[04:40] <karmii> n8tuser: ok
[04:40] <dooglus> stuck1: where "him" is the name of the folder in my home directory to mount his filesystem, and also the name of the ssh account
[04:41] <jeffhmb> agoole: anything unusual in the messages printed to the console?
[04:41] <stuck1> Okay is your user name on his computer
[04:41] <Scunizi> mike999: perhaps the guy that posted this can give you some insight http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_p3X7CdE2oc
[04:41] <n8tuser> dooglus-> it is called mountpoint
[04:41] <EruditeHermit> hi, how do I find what is starting dmraid in my boot process? I don't have a RAID array and I've purge the dmraid package but I still see a dmraid process started in my bootchart
[04:41] <dooglus> stuck1: I define the hostname, username, port, etc. in ~/.ssh/config
[04:41] <agoole> jeffhmb: no, all seems normal, points to my xorg fine, no errors
[04:41] <karmii> n8tuser: can i  upgarde from any versin of ubuntu to 9.10 with an laternate cd?
[04:41] <dooglus> n8tuser: I know that.  stuck1 might not
[04:41] <lstarnes> karmii: no
[04:41] <jeffhmb> agoole: what about using the failsafe session?
[04:41] <lstarnes> karmii: you have to upgrade from 9.04
[04:42] <stuck1> What now thats really thrown me
[04:42] <kohlrak> I think i found something in syslog that might explain what is with the strange automatic shutdowns (can't believe i didn't see it before): http://kohlrak.pastebin.com/d4357f372 Can anyone tell me what this means?
[04:42] <zodiacpup> My memory stick isn't detected when I plug it in, even before starting the computer. Do I have to download any drivers to get it working or something? Seriously, this is getting annoying...
[04:42] <agoole> jeffhmb: can I do that from the terminal ?
[04:42] <fool_> where does gnome saved its background ?
[04:42] <sheroux> hi guys, is there a way to fully activate samba between Vista and Ubuntu Jaunty/karmic whitout user accounts ?? preparing for a backup and its not fully working both ways
[04:42] <n8tuser> karmii  nope, besides do a new install instead of upgrade, upgrades usually are problematic
[04:42] <fool_> where does gnome saved its background settings ?
[04:42] <Dayofswords> i installed ubuntu 9.10, and i managed to import my pgp keys, but when i went o try to encrypt, the right click isnt there, did they remove it? and remove the import key thing too?
[04:42] <karmii> n8tuser: ok
[04:42] <karmii> thanks
[04:42] <n8tuser> sheroux-> it does not makes sense. both systems needs authorizations..
[04:42] <dooglus> stuck1: I could just run:   ssh him@his.host.com:/home/him ~/him
[04:43] <gralco> hi, I'm not sure what's wrong, I think it may have something to do with pulse-audio but sound has not been working for me ever since interpid, and I'm now using karmic and it's still not working, can anyone please help?
[04:43] <dooglus> stuck1: if I didn't want to define the hostname, username, etc.
[04:43] <Brent> hm
[04:43] <snach14914> anyone install the netbook remix version? can you please msg me with help.....
[04:43] <KungFuJesus> annoyance #1 for karmic koala: Where did the delete key go?
[04:43] <leaf-sheep> stuck1: What are you confused about? I'll help. :)
[04:43] <sheroux> n8tuser:i know but i only wanna copy file from ubuntu -> vista, then do revers
[04:43] <daleharvey> ok, before I give up on this community, considering how many people have frozen screens during the install process and trouble with reading from installation media, is it an acknowledged problem? and is there anything I can do to help debug it
[04:43] <dr3mro> where is xorg.conf in ubuntu 9.10
[04:43] <KungFuJesus> Why did you get rid of the delete key functionlaity and how do you get it back?
[04:43] <stuck1> doog but do you need your  account name on your mates machine
[04:43] <theworstfriendev> hey guys, just a quick note for something that happened with me, i have 1 gb of ram, and 1 gb of swap. upon installation, only 10% of the ram was used and 27% swap, and it was swapping like crazy. anyway, if anyone else gets this problem, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1292582 has a solution
[04:44] <stuck1> Or do you use his?
[04:44] <jeffhmb> agoole: try "startx -- -config /etc/X11/xorg.conf.failsafe"
[04:44] <leaf-sheep> stuck1: No. You don't have to create a new account on your mate's computer.  You (local) install sshfs then add yourself to a new group (fuse).  Then from this point on, you can sshfs in anywhere that you can ssh in.
[04:44] <n8tuser> sheroux-> try to use sshfs, it will mount a network drive, and i think even ntfs  but you may have to use ntfs-3g
[04:44] <lockd> KungFuJesus: that seems like a bug, what do you mean "where did the delete key go". does "DEL" not work when typing a document?
[04:44] <agoole> jeffhmb: ok give me a sec
[04:44] <leaf-sheep> stuck1: In this case, you can use your mate's username; password -- Or you can use an account that your mate created for you (on his system).
[04:44] <sheroux> n8tuser: those are packages or apps ?
[04:45] <lockd> KungFuJesus: or do you mean you can't use del in Nautilus?
[04:45] <xzcvczx> has anyone else had a segfault trying to run empathy on a reasonably fresh karmic install?
[04:45] <EvRide> wewt, finally got ubuntu fully updated
[04:45] <KungFuJesus> Nautilus/Gnome has removed delete key functionality completely
[04:45] <n8tuser> sheroux-> sshfs ?  its an utilities app
[04:45] <stuck1> thanks leaf just needed someone to confirm!
[04:45] <EvRide> ya, empathy is having problems
[04:45] <EvRide> im sticking with Pidgin
[04:45] <xzcvczx> EvRide: ah, thanks..
[04:45] <Dayofswords> i installed ubuntu 9.10, and i managed to import my pgp keys, but when i went to try to encrypt, the right click option to encrypt isnt there, did they remove it? and remove the import key thing too?
[04:45] <lockd> KungFuJesus: does it work AT ALL in other apps?
[04:45] <stuck1> Thats sounds better!
[04:45] <KungFuJesus> as in "remove file".  The convention of delete sending to trash and shift delete just doing rm is a convention I'm so used to
[04:45] <zodiacpup> My memory stick isn't detected when I plug it in, even before starting the computer. Do I have to download any drivers to get it working or something? Seriously, this is getting annoying...
[04:46] <roffe_> Could I get a little help on mounting an ntfs-partition in fstab?
[04:46] <agoole> jeffhmb: file xorg.conf.failsafe doesn't exist, says invalid argument
[04:46] <stuck1> I suppose I test first just with ssh?
[04:46] <Deathvalley122> does anybody seem to have kernel issues in Karmic?
[04:46] <dooglus> stuck1: if you can log in with ssh, then you can use sshfs
[04:46] <JonathanEllis> roffe_: What do you want to know?
[04:46] <esf36> hello I am new to unbutu and I cant get anything to work....I seem to be missing things after I installed it ....things that the installer should have installed...
[04:46] <lockd> KungFuJesus: for me both seems to work
[04:46] <KungFuJesus> I'm sure there's nothing wrong with the key, the action listeners are gone in gnome/nautilus, though
[04:46] <agoole> jeffhmb: I have a xorg.conf.dist-upgrade-date file though
[04:46] <jeffhmb> agoole: ls /etc/X11/xorg.conf*
[04:46] <KungFuJesus> lockd: delete key deletes a file in nautilus for 9.10?
[04:47] <bradpitt> esf36: whats not working?
[04:47] <dooglus> stuck1: I didn't have to do anything about groups either - maybe 'cos I have an admin account, but idk
[04:47] <daleharvey> Deathvalley122: lots of people seem to have, it looks like problems with the install process
[04:47] <BoredKender> will anyone that just upgraded to karmic x64 do me a favor and try to open firefox from another program (such as clicking a link in here)?
[04:47] <lockd> KungFuJesus: don't see why it wouldn't in a fresh install, this is from alpha which is fully updated
[04:47] <leaf-sheep> stuck1: Sure.  If you can ssh in, then you can sshfs in.  You will have to point out all the correct paths and create an empty folder for the filesystem to show up under.
[04:47] <zeeble> what is the firefox 3.5.5 package that just upgraded itself?
[04:47] <agoole> jeffhmb: I have 2 results, one with the dist-upgrade-date, and one that is just xorg.conf.date
[04:47] <roffe_> JonathanEllis, I'm not exactly sure what to write, so far I've written "UUID=D06C7E816C7E61E0 /media/windows ntfs", but there should be more, I'm just not certain what
[04:47] <daleharvey> but noone has acknowledged it yet, just lots of complaints
[04:47] <KungFuJesus> lockd: this is an update from jaunty
[04:47] <stuck1> I'll try that first...Thankyou everyone!:-[
[04:47] <kaikun> o_o
[04:47] <agoole> jeffhmb: plus the regular xorg.conf file
[04:48] <zodiacpup> OH MY GOD THANKS TO YOU ALL FOR YOUR FEEDBACK!
[04:48] <Deathvalley122> daleharvey: something went terribly wrong with my dvd drive with the kernel
[04:48] <jeffhmb> OK, "mv xorg.conf xorg.conf.SAVE"
[04:48] <JonathanEllis> roffe_: OK. Give me a minute
[04:48] <n8tuser> roffe->  sudo blkid  to tell you that UUID
[04:48] <jeffhmb> agoole: OK, "mv xorg.conf xorg.conf.SAVE"
[04:48] <daleharvey> what happened?
[04:48] <jeffhmb> agoole: then "startx" again
[04:48] <Dayofswords> question, i installed ubuntu 9.10, and i managed to import my pgp keys, but when i went to try to encrypt, the right click option to encrypt isnt there, did they remove it? and remove the import key left click thing too?
[04:49] <n8tuser> roffe-> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab
[04:49] <KungFuJesus> hmmm, it must be buried in nautilus config
[04:49] <KungFuJesus> probably can find it somewhere in gconf too, but MAN that is annoying
[04:49] <Deathvalley122> daleharvey: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8193361#post8193361
[04:49] <agoole> jeffhmb: ok done, still black screen
[04:49] <stuck1> So does 9.10 have nfs gui?
[04:49] <agoole> jeffhmb: wait
[04:49] <agoole> jeffhmb: I get 2 errors now
[04:49] <EvRide> ya they need to make an either way to edit gconf
[04:49] <JonathanEllis> roffe_: Have a look at this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions/ThirdPartyNTFS3G
[04:49] <stuck1> Or a sshfs gui?
[04:49] <Deathvalley122> I also seem to have a different volume control
[04:50] <dhaval_> How do I set a password for a tar.gz file ?
[04:50] <agoole> jeffhmb: failed to initialize glx driver, and /dev/fb0 not found
[04:50] <dooglus> dhaval_: you don't?
[04:50] <n8tuser> stuck1-> try to learn the command line and dont rely too much on gui stuff
[04:50] <dhaval_> You mean I can't?
[04:50] <kohlrak> can anyone explain why my computer randomly shuts down on it's own here?: http://kohlrak.pastebin.com/d4357f372
[04:50] <dhaval_> and I have to use WINRAR?
[04:50] <EvRide> is ubuntu one free?
[04:50] <KungFuJesus> lockd: works again, there is a check box in nautilus to check to enable an option to bypass trash completely
[04:50] <dooglus> dhaval_: gzip doesn't support encryption, neither does tar
[04:50] <stuck1> Yeah I know but I'm crap at typing
[04:50] <mikechelen> stuck1, Places -> Connect to Server supports SSH
[04:51] <kohlrak> EvRide what do you mean?
[04:51] <dooglus> dhaval_: you could use crypt or something
[04:51] <KungFuJesus> apparently w/out it the delete shortcut sequence disappears altogether.  Apparently I found a bug
[04:51] <dhaval_> nevermind, I'll use winrar
[04:51] <EvRide> well there seems to be a new cloud hosting storage called Ubuntu One, didn't know if it was free or not
[04:51] <KungFuJesus> not even sure why it was missing, must be a default option that didn't carry or a parameter in a config file that didn't previously exist and during migration wasn't included
[04:51] <ck773> EvRide: 2GB is free, you can buy 50GB for a monthly fee
[04:51] <vix> :)  on ubuntu 9.10
[04:51] <EvRide> ah ok, thanks
[04:52] <JonathanEllis> EvRide: I understand Ubunto One is free for up to 2GB I believe
[04:52] <vix> i was wondering if i cn import pidgin contacts etc into empathy
[04:52] <Scunizi> EvRide: up to 2 gigs is free.. the next level is 50 gigs for $10 a month
[04:52] <EvRide> thanks
[04:52] <patrick> gloubarde
[04:52] <mikechelen> vix, maybe try conduit? pidgin can also sync with evolution
[04:52] <agoole> jeffhmb: should I be loading the glx drivers ?
[04:52] <jeffhmb> agoole: i'm getting stumped....
[04:52] <Deathvalley122> daleharvey: that doesn't seem normal does it?
[04:53] <stuck1> It's just that sharing from windows to ubuntu for windows users has been done okay but not ubuntu to ubuntu for windows users?
[04:53] <zimio> Does anyone know what's the name of the gnome applet that lets you change the CPU speed from power saving to performance?
[04:53] <EvRide> hmmm, before my update i had a custom icon theme, some of the icons are missing now
[04:53] <stuck1> Get me!
[04:53] <jeffhmb> agoole: what video card do you have? were you using proprietary drivers?
[04:53] <vix> chking on conduit
[04:53] <agoole> jeffhmb: I have an old nvidia card I can't even recal what it is
[04:53] <EvRide> anyone have problems with that? do the icons need a name change to work with a new version?
[04:53] <kohlrak> stuck1: problem is, windows doesn't like ubuntu's preferred protocols. They prefer you use windows protocols when there's a windows computer involved.
[04:53] <agoole> jeffhmb: did the upgrade remove the video drivers?
[04:54] <Dayofswords> question, i installed Ubuntu 9.10, and i managed to import my pgp keys, but when i went to try to encrypt, the right click option to encrypt isn't there, did they remove it? and remove the import key left click thing too?
[04:54] <mike999> Scunizi, sorry for the late reply but that guy is using synergy and I've done it with synergy but I find there is a bit of lag
[04:54] <agoole> jeffhmb: I couldn't download and install the nvidia drivers from the site,
[04:54] <sartan> Working on some disaster recovery for a failed 9.04 upgrade to 9.10... My kernel doesn't load ~ i'm resorting right now to using a USB thumbdrive and a tool called Super Grub.  when manually trying to boot vmlinuz-2.6.31-14-generic & properly setting my LVM root, grub freezes and nothing loads.    Ubuntu also failed to update my mbr/superblock/whtaever the heck my machine has set up
[04:54] <sartan> long story short is there a website i can download a the vmlinuz kernel image from?
[04:54] <lockd> well currently volume up/down/mute is broken, but that's because the current gnome build has zero support for ALSA
[04:54] <mikechelen> stuck1, what are you trying to do? Ubuntu supports SMB which is used for Windows shares
[04:54] <kohlrak> Dayofswords:still there for me, but i did an upgrade
[04:54] <stuck1> Hows avahi networking?
[04:54] <BlackEyes> lockd: just installed vlc, gave my pc a quick restart and things are rocking ^_^ thank you for the assistance
[04:54] <roffe_> JonathanEllis, Thanks a lot
[04:55] <Dayofswords> i did a fresh install
[04:55] <stuck1> in 9.10
[04:55] <jeffhmb> agoole: that's possible -- you might need to clean out any vestiges first.
[04:55] <EvRide> sartan, that's probably best asked on the forums
[04:55] <jeffhmb> agoole: $ lspci |grep GeForce
[04:55] <jeffhmb> 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV31 [GeForce FX 5600] (rev a1)
[04:55] <lockd> stuck1: you are saying that ubuntu to ubuntu doesn't work properly?
[04:55] <eduardo_> how can i get ubuntu 9.10 64 bits?
[04:55] <nanotube> !torrents
[04:55] <agoole> jeffhmb: of the old video drivers ?
[04:55] <Scunizi> mike999: did you look at any of the other referenced videos at the end of that one?  there was one with 3 monitors
[04:55] <Jordan_U> sartan: Do you have grub legacy or grub2 installed right now?
[04:55] <kohlrak> Dayofswords: can't say i can help you then.
[04:55] <vix> conduit does nt sync with pidgin
[04:55] <jeffhmb> agoole: yes
[04:55] <vix> i was wondering if i cn import pidgin contacts etc into empathy ?
[04:55] <lstarnes> eduardo_: the amd64 edition should be 64-bit
[04:55] <KungFuJesus> how do you edit the startup services through the GUI now?  I'd rather not manage this ubuntu install debian style
[04:55] <EvRide> yes vix
[04:55] <jeffhmb> agoole: i had some minor problems when I upgraded to Jaunty
[04:55] <vix> EvRide: ?
[04:55] <lockd> BlackEyes: good but I wasn't the one who suggested VLC :P
[04:55] <agoole> jeffhmb: ok, let me run sudo aptitude search nvidia
[04:55] <EvRide> when you start up emp there should be an option to do it automatically for you
[04:55] <eduardo_> lstarnes: where can i download it from
[04:55] <Jordan_U> !boot | KungFuJesus
[04:56] <bradpitt> dayofswords : what do you wanna install? third-party apps?
[04:56] <lstarnes> eduardo_: the same page where the 32-bit version is downloaded from
[04:56] <EvRide> i have been having problems with emp as well as someone else, so i'd stick with pidgin for now
[04:56] <stuck1> I'm saying that mandrake have a gui..So I'm told and suse..For people familiar with osx clicking or xp click and pointing without having to type
[04:56] <eduardo_> lstarnes: no
[04:56] <lockd> vix: you can import the accounts into empathy. the contacts are stored on the server
[04:56] <mike999> Scunizi, going through all the videos right now. Thanks again for the tip hopefully they'll respond. I just can't believe no one has made a guide of running Dual Video cards and 3/4 monitors for linux with xinemera before hehe
[04:56] <b0w> leaf-sheep: i added the lines i needed to the fstab file but now it doesnt mount it, it says it cant find it
[04:56] <lstarnes> eduardo_: yes
[04:56] <lstarnes> eduardo_: wait, they changed the layout
[04:56] <sartan> Jordan_U: i think lilo (!?!?!) is installed to the mbr of the first disk actually.  apparently i struggled with this boot stuff under a prevoius distro i was running, and was.. somehow chainloading it to the superblock of my hd0,0 partition.
[04:57] <esf36> ok question how do I get the cube desktop thing to work???
[04:57] <EvRide> why didn't the ubuntu dev team just create a new plugin for pidgin?
[04:57] <eduardo_> lstarnes: yea
[04:57] <Dayofswords> i want to know why files dont have a right click encrypt, and sign... and why the import key option for a left click of a asc file is gone
[04:57] <mikechelen> !compiz | esf36
[04:57] <BoredKender> will anyone that just upgraded to karmic x64 do me a favor and try to open firefox from another program (such as clicking a link in here) and tell me if it works for them?
[04:57] <lstarnes> eduardo_: click on the alternative download options link
[04:57] <vix> lockd: using cnduit?
[04:57] <wire-cracker> hello any one knows about backtrack 4
[04:57] <EntityReborn> EvRide, why don't you?
[04:57] <Scunizi> mike999: xinerama I believe has issues with mesa 7.xxx.. I remember reading something like that a while back
[04:57] <EvRide> seems that they had to do a whole lot more work to recreate pidgin
[04:57] <mikechelen> !ot wire-cracker
[04:57] <wire-cracker> any one??
[04:57] <sartan> basically right now i have no working bootloader installed, and lilo is loading some kernel from somewhere and i'm not exactly sure how to find out.  It's just branded 'linux' and linux old...
[04:57] <JonathanEllis> Will the Karmic installation import files and settings from an Ubuntu 8.04 partition located on a usb disk? I copied the partitions from my previous ubuntu installation to a usb disk before deleting the partitions on my main disk so I am formatting with fresh ext4 partitions. Trouble is I cant just try it just yet as the usb disk is busy backing up partitions from another machine at the moment. I dont want to wait for it to complete if the installati
[04:57] <Jordan_U> sartan: Lilo? I truly feel sorry for you and your boot sector :)
[04:57] <mikechelen> wire-cracker, this is ubuntu channel
[04:57] <EvRide> EntityReborn, I'm saying it's a hassle to redo everything
[04:58] <wire-cracker> well I am asking
[04:58] <EntityReborn> :P
[04:58] <jimbeam12_> hey all
[04:58] <EntityReborn> hm
[04:58] <wire-cracker> there is no backtrack
[04:58] <mike999> Scunizi, The issue right now is I can run 3 monitors no issues but when I open firefox it opens on my main screen which is a pain in the neck
[04:58] <wire-cracker> and is ubuntu based
[04:58] <ctmjr> wire-cracker: ask in #remote-exploit
[04:58] <sheroux> how can i access reading/writing in a windows folder from jaunty ?
[04:58] <jimbeam12_> anyone know how i can fix this error "[04:58] <wire-cracker> cool
[04:58] <stuck1> I'm from an Atari background to XP should'nt have to go through config scripts all the time.Where trying to make xp users jump the ship to us arent we
[04:58] <sartan> grub> kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.31-14-generic root=/dev/mapper/Mistrust-root ro 'should' be the right command to run, but the system locks up immediately, i do not see it try to extract the kernel
[04:58] <wire-cracker> thanks
[04:58] <vix> wel?
[04:58] <sartan> this is running grub from the super grub tool
[04:59] <EvRide> sheroux, is the folder in an internal, external, or network drive? drive,
[04:59] <eduardo_> lstarnes: how can i upgrade from terminal to 9.10 64 bits
[04:59] <agoole> jeffhmb: i'll try downloading and installing the nvidia drivers from the site
[04:59] <EvRide> lol oops
[04:59] <sartan> it's a godawful complicated setup and i'm sure i can fix it if i could boot /any/ working kernel even once so i can load up some grub/grub2 tools and rebuild everything.
[04:59] <lstarnes> eduardo_: you can't
[04:59] <lstarnes> eduardo_: you must reinstall with the 64-bit version
[04:59] <Dayofswords> question, i installed (fresh)Ubuntu 9.10, and i managed to import my pgp keys, but when i went to try to encrypt, the right click option to encrypt isn't there, did they remove it? and remove the import key left click thing too?
[04:59] <eduardo_> lstarnes: will i lose all my info?
[05:00] <Jordan_U> sartan: Do you get an error message from grub?
[05:00] <lstarnes> eduardo_: not if you back it up properly
[05:00] <stuck1> I like ubuntu so I'm not trying to flame.Just miffed that nfs is a pain.
[05:00] <jeffhmb> agoole: if you have an old video card, that might be a problem.
[05:00] <sheroux> EvRide, i want to have a folder on the windows hard drive to copy files on it, and retrieve it later..
[05:00] <esf36> umm I dont have compositing window manager........
[05:00] <lstarnes> eduardo_: do you have /home as a separate partition from /?
[05:00] <Jordan_U> sartan: You can always chroot in from a LiveCD
[05:00] <b0w> hello! someone can help me out on removing write protection to my iomega external drive? im using ubuntu 9.04
[05:00] <jimbeam12_> nevermind done it
[05:00] <sartan> jordan no, all i get is a status message '[Linux-bzImage, set up=0x3400, size=0x3bef40]'
[05:00] <eduardo_> lstarnes: i have windows vista and ubuntu here but my main system is ubuntu
[05:00] <agoole> jeffhmb: uh oh, I thought their drivers were good for all cards ?
[05:00] <sartan> which is pretty darned normal but that's as far as it gets
[05:01] <theham> Hello everyone, i just install the new ubuntu, and the wireless doesnt seem to work
[05:01] <agoole> jeffhmb: don't they have a legacy section ?
[05:01] <edugonch> Hello, do you know a software that allow me do benchmarks for may own programs that runs in Ubuntu?
[05:01] <fatbrain> Hi, I did an update through the update manager (netbook remix, karmic koala) and the "Switch Desktop Mode" application vanished. Is there some other that "took" its place?
[05:01] <sartan> Man, funny you mention that. the only disk i have burned is a 9.04 dvd, which apparently won't boot either.. slightly alarming =)
[05:01] <mikechelen> stuck1, why use NFS? samba is default for ubuntu
[05:01] <EvRide> sheroux go to Places>Computer, find the windows drive, double click it, create a folder, and save files to it
[05:01] <theham> I believ eihave a BCM4312 a/b/g with firmware sb v3
[05:01] <EvRide> you should automatically have write access to internal drives
[05:01] <theham> on the top right task bar, it says device not ready
[05:01] <sheroux> EvRide thats the problem, i cant open folder location on /mom-laptop
[05:01] <theham> Any suggestions ?
[05:01] <sartan> naturally the only dvd iburner i have available is in the hosed machine! wot a day
[05:01] <EvRide> sheroux, are you wanting to mount it in your home folder or something?
[05:01] <bradpitt> theham : fn+f2?
[05:01] <b0w> hello! someone can help me out on removing write protection to my iomega external drive? im using ubuntu 9.04
[05:02] <stuck1> I wanna use the tools that for between linux
[05:02] <stuck1> newtworking
[05:02] <sheroux> EvRide no simply backing up things on another computer under windows
[05:02] <sartan> holy crap, no, this is way older than i thought, ubuuntu 6.06
[05:02] <sheroux> and retrieve them
[05:02] <stuck1> bsd etc
[05:02] <theham> bradpitt, thanks for the respond, but it doesnt seem to do anything
[05:02] <Flannel> sartan: You can upgrade to 8.04 easily though!
[05:02] <n8tuser> !who | stuck1
[05:03] <KungFuJesus> anyboyd know how to manage startup services for ubuntu now?
[05:03] <sheroux> cuz i cant access /mom-laptop from linux, and i cant write on my /home shared folder
[05:03] <sartan> if it could boot ;)
[05:03] <n8tuser> KungFuJesus-> look into update-rc.d or invoke-rc.d
[05:03] <EvRide> ok sheroux, what specifically is the folder, like the full path? are you using bitlocker or another harddrive encrypter on Windows?
[05:03] <sartan> found my 9.04 alt install disk.
[05:03] <stuck1> I wanna plugin see someone else and share instantly transparent no friggin config scripts
[05:03] <agoole> jeffhmb: sry, how can i grep for my video card from the lspci ?
[05:03] <sheroux> no simple vista installation\
[05:03] <b0w> hello! someone can help me out on removing write protection to my iomega external drive? im using ubuntu 9.04
[05:04] <spaceman_stu> hi guys.  I'm having to run my webserver (glassfish) with sudo in order to make it work on port 80.  Is that normal?  Should I be able to run a service on port 80 without sudo'ing?
[05:04] <sheroux> EvRide simple vista installation, folder is /mom-laptop/C/Backup/blah
[05:04] <Scunizi> mike999: this may have a work-a-round for you http://support.mozilla.com/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?locale=ro&comments_parentId=103676&forumId=1
[05:04] <leaf-sheep> stuck1: You want Samba then.
[05:04] <leaf-sheep> !samba | stuck1
[05:04] <Jordan_U> stuck1: You can also install grub ( or a live distro ) to a thumb drive
[05:04] <KungFuJesus> n8tuser: any visual way?  I don't feel like learning hte syntax to this new fancy command
[05:04] <mneptok> spaceman_stu: it is normal. low ports are usually reserved.
[05:04] <N3bunel> hello,
[05:04] <lockd> stuck1: you can also install winscp
[05:04] <jayferd> anybody know whatever happened to unionfs-tools?
[05:04] <theham> My wireless doesnt seem to be working, i have a BCM4312 a/b/g with firmware sb v3. It says device not ready
[05:04] <ghindo> I've been having trouble with Flash - what's the best way to completely remove all traces of it so I can do a fresh reinstall?
[05:04] <vix> i was wondering if i cn import pidgin contacts etc into empathy ?
[05:04] <lstarnes> jayferd: try aufs-tools
[05:05] <spaceman_stu> mneptok: cool, so sudoing it is kosh then?  It felt a little icky
[05:05] <stuck1> Noo jeez. Ubuntu to ubuntu fug windows off!
[05:05] <n8tuser> KungFuJesus-> not that am aware of, why would it be so difficult for you to learn the command? all gui's have a commadn line behind them
[05:05] <leaf-sheep> vix: Empathy have the option to import Pidgin contact.  Sure!
[05:05] <lockd> stuck1: WinSCP on Windows is probably the fastest way to access your files on any system
[05:05] <EvRide> so sheroux, im a little lost here, is mom-laptop a remote computer? like over the network? the folder path doesn't look right
[05:05] <KungFuJesus> KungFuJesus: no kidding, but I've learned that so many things are different between ubuntu and debian
[05:05] <stuck1> Don't want anything to do with windows!
[05:05] <KungFuJesus> messing with Ubuntu's startup scripts leads to things not working correctly in ubuntu
[05:05] <lockd> stuck1: so you just want to transfer files between two ubuntu systems?
[05:05] <n8tuser> theham-> load the correct drivers?
[05:05] <sheroux> lol, ill explai that to u in PM, EvRide
[05:06] <KungFuJesus> err n8tuser I meant
[05:06] <nowimproved> I am running fluxbox on 9.10 and I have no sound, in that or firefox flash
[05:06] <mneptok> spaceman_stu: root should invoke the init script, but the app itself should then run as another user (usually www or somesuch)
[05:06] <EvRide> k
[05:06] <n8tuser> KungFuJesus-> what?
[05:06] <leaf-sheep> stuck1: Samba is a protocol.  Just like http, https, sftp, ssh, etc.  I use Samba for file sharing with other devices in my house especially printing!
[05:06] <theham> n8tuser, how do i do that?
[05:06] <merma> can someone recommend some nice podcasts?
[05:06] <N3bunel> i have a problem with my ubuntu, lastnight i try to upgrade to ubuntu 9.10 ,i start the upgrade  and now my machine was rebooted and its not start ... i run ubuntu in recovery mode and he say "read only filesystem" anyone who can help me ??
[05:07] <KungFuJesus> no kidding, but I've learned that so many things are different between ubuntu and debian
[05:07] <KungFuJesus> messing with Ubuntu's startup scripts leads to things not working correctly in ubuntu
[05:07] <mikechelen> merma, about ubuntu, or in general?
[05:07] <n8tuser> theham-> the driver? can be load at boot  up, i dont have the exact steps to do right now, but you may be able to find a tutorial on the infamous bmc43xx ddriver for ubuntu
[05:07] <merma> mikechelen, both
[05:07] <Madden10> is there a way in ubuntu to keep incomplete file while extracting? for example If i have first 10 rars of a movie. Can i extract it and check quality? Im thinking about using winrar in wine to extract just for this purpose but is there a program for ubuntu that can do the same? thanks
[05:07] <spaceman_stu> mneptok: cool, thanks for the advice
[05:07] <stuck1> But is'nt samba for Linux to winbloze only?
[05:07] <lockd> KungFuJesus: you can hose Debian's startup scripts pretty easily too
[05:07] <EvRide> nbunel, how specifically did you update? through the console?
[05:07] <nowimproved> I am running fluxbox on 9.10 and I have no sound, in that or firefox flash
[05:07] <EvRide> err terminal
[05:07] <lstarnes> stuck1: it also works between linux systems and from windows to linux
[05:07] <mikechelen> stuck1, nope, it works great linux-to-linux as well :)
[05:07] <KungFuJesus> but I know, even though I'm running this machien as a secondary backend, it's going to start a mysql instance on startup, screwing everything up.  I DO NOT WANT TO START MYSQL AT BOOT
[05:07] <KungFuJesus> grrrrr
[05:07] <mneptok> spaceman_stu: AFAIK, Glassfish is an app server, not a simple web server.
[05:08] <k0d3g3ar> any ubuntu software for downloading and recording youtube videos?
[05:08] <lockd> stuck1: what are you looking for? you seem to NOT want/need windows support
[05:08] <mneptok> spaceman_stu: you're serving server-side Java apps?
[05:08] <stuck1> Sure as hell no
[05:08] <Jordan_U> sartan: Does grub get to the menu when you boot normally?
[05:08] <mikechelen> merma, idk if there are any ubuntu-specific podcasts, otherwise might want to ask in #ubuntu-offotpic
[05:08] <n8tuser> k0d3g3ar-> try vlc perhaps? it can record streaming
[05:08] <mneptok> stuck1: all you need is openssh-server
[05:08] <libtech> k0d3g3ar: theres a way to do it with VLC player
[05:08] <costal> Hi
[05:08] <lockd> yes, just use SSH then
[05:08] <jayferd> [lstarnes] huh. that's cool.  do i just swap "unionfs" for "aufs" in the fstab, or does it work if i just leave the fstab alone and install aufs-tools?
[05:08] <k0d3g3ar> thanks.  I'll try vlc
[05:08] <N3bunel> k0d3g3ar : you can download the youtube videos with downloadhelper this is a firfefox addon
[05:09] <lstarnes> jayferd: I'm not sure
[05:09] <costal> How can I update from 9.10 test to 9.10 stable
[05:09] <mikechelen> k0d3g3ar, you don't need special software, use the direct .flv url
[05:09] <Jordan_U> !final | costal
[05:09] <N3bunel> i have a problem with my ubuntu, lastnight i try to upgrade to ubuntu 9.10 ,i start the upgrade  and now my machine was rebooted and its not start ... i run ubuntu in recovery mode and he say "read only filesystem" anyone who can help me ??
[05:09] <BoredKender> costal- did you try the update manager?
[05:09] <jayferd> okay, experimenting commencing
[05:09] <b0w> hello! someone can help me out on removing write protection to my iomega external drive? im using ubuntu 9.04
[05:09] <spaceman_stu> mneptok: jruby, but yeah
[05:09] <WSmart> Flash should be in your /tmp too.
[05:09] <jayferd> [lstarnes] thanks a bunch for the tip!
[05:09] <mneptok> spaceman_stu: yeah, Java.
[05:09] <stuck1> Jeez theres more than one way to skin a cat. Why the hell did they decide to use samba for Linux to linux file sharing and not nfs
[05:10] <costal> I did apt-get update but I still hitting some old bugs that apparently were fixed in the sable
[05:10] <Lint> Madden10, -kb
[05:10] <dr3mro> how to change system dpi ubuntu 9,10
[05:10] <Madden10> Lint: sorry what?
[05:10] <mikechelen> stuck1, why should they decide to use nfs instead of samba?
[05:10] <n8tuser> jayferd-> cat  /proc/filesystems  to see if that filesystem is suppported in your current kernel
[05:10] <mneptok> costal: did you dist-upgrade?
[05:10] <lstarnes> stuck1: you might be using a mixed network that has several linux and windows machines
[05:10] <RickZilla> Can somebody help me?  My usb drive won't mount all of a sudden...running jaunty. I'm not sure how to troubleshoot this.
[05:10] <costal> I'll try the dist-upgrade thanks
[05:10] <Lint> Madden10, unrar option to keep damaged files
[05:10] <WSmart> stuck1:  NFS transfers are faster here.
[05:10] <N3bunel> i have a problem with my ubuntu, lastnight i try to upgrade to ubuntu 9.10 ,i start the upgrade  and now my machine was rebooted and its not start ... i run ubuntu in recovery mode and he say "read only filesystem" anyone who can help me ??
[05:10] <Brent> is anyone available to help me with a SLI problem with ubuntu 9.1?
[05:11] <stuck1> There you go!!!
[05:11] <dr3mro> how to change system dpi ubuntu 9,10
[05:11] <Dayofswords> question, i installed (fresh)Ubuntu 9.10, and i managed to import my pgp keys, but when i went to try to encrypt, the right click option to encrypt isn't there, did they remove it? and remove the import key left click thing too?
[05:11] <Madden10> Lint: how do i use that option?
[05:11] <n8tuser> RickZilla->  use dmesg to see if it is even detected
[05:11] <Th3raid0r_> Hello fellow Linux enthusiasts!
[05:11] <RickZilla> n8tuser: Not sure what that is
[05:11] <Madden10> sorry i have used winrar on windows all my life. that just had a keep incomplete files option. I dont know much about ubuntu apps
[05:11] <stuck1> And does it hose the network?
[05:12] <Sensiva> dr3mro click System > Preference > Appearance > Details and type the desired dpi value
[05:12] <WSmart> Th3raid0r_: What up.
[05:12] <Lint> Madden10, unrar e -kb archive.part01.rar
[05:12] <lstarnes> stuck1: no
[05:12] <n8tuser> RickZilla-> in a terminal type dmesg  , also try to type man dmesg for additional info
[05:12] <Th3raid0r_> Oh, nothing much, yourself?
[05:12] <lstarnes> stuck1: we, disregard that last message from me
[05:12] <RickZilla> n8tuser: Got it, not sure what to do with all of that info in the terminal though
[05:12] <esf36> I cant get the cube to turn the page flops but I dont see the cude its-self how do I do that???
[05:12] <N3bunel> i have a problem with my ubuntu, lastnight i try to upgrade to ubuntu 9.10 ,i start the upgrade  and now my machine was rebooted and its not start ... i run ubuntu in recovery mode and he say "read only filesystem" anyone who can help me ??
[05:12] <mikechelen> Madden10, can try 7zip, think it handles .rar
[05:12] <WSmart> Th3raid0r_: Greetings.
[05:13] <Brent> is anyone available to help me with a SLI problem with ubuntu 9.1?
[05:13] <Th3raid0r_> WSmart, oh, nothing much, yourself
[05:13] <n8tuser> RickZilla-> it will indicate if your newly plugged-in usb drive is detected,  look at the very end
[05:13] <Rabbitbunny> WSmart, Th3raid0r_: Good to be nice to each other. Bad to chat in here.
[05:13] <crohakon> anyone got a second to help me with wine or point me in the correct direction?
[05:13] <RickZilla> n8tuser: Says it found it
[05:14] <exodus_ms> N3bunel, have you looked here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic/+source/boot/+bug/432237
[05:14] <Madden10> mikechelen ok ill try 7 zip. & Lint I'm trying to do that command now. Do i need to navigate to the rar directory first in terminal?
[05:14] <sulo_seppa> What do you need, crohakon?
[05:14] <Th3raid0r_> Jeez, i forgot how IRC works, lol, just getting the hang of it again. I do have a problem that needs fixing though.
[05:14] <n8tuser> RickZilla-> then mount it if not mounted yet
[05:14] <Lint> Madden10, yes
[05:14] <N3bunel> exodus_ms : i cant start it
[05:14] <stuck1> wine should work straight away after installling least in 9.04
[05:14] <N3bunel> exodus_ms : its not starting
[05:14] <aquachica> Hello everyone. I recently upgraded to 9.10 and noticed that my SCIM has been stripped of foreign languages. Has anyone else encountered this?
[05:15] <exodus_ms> N3bunel, if your at a command line try lynx https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic/+source/boot/+bug/432237 or w3m https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic/+source/boot/+bug/432237
[05:15] <crohakon> sulo_seppa; I would like to run a program, but the program does not require installation. I just tried placing the program and it's files in my home directory, but I get errors. Do I need to place the program and its support files somewhere special?
[05:15] <olman> #wine
[05:15] <mikechelen> Madden10, either cd to the directory with the file, or specify the full path after the program
[05:15] <N3bunel> exodus_ms : i canot activate the network
[05:15] <RickZilla> n8tuser: That's just it...I try to mount, and it gives me an error message that says "Unable to mount location, can't mount file"
[05:15] <sulo_seppa> crohakon: What program is it?
[05:15] <exodus_ms> N3bunel, on whatever computer your using to IRC visit that link
[05:15] <pshr_> hey, hello any software that records / captures what ever i do on the screen ?
[05:15] <n8tuser> RickZilla-> what was your exact command? with root priviledges?
[05:16] <RickZilla> right clicked on the icon, selected mount icon
[05:16] <crohakon> sulo_seppa; http://www.thecastle.com/walter.html#download  <--- It is a character generator for an old RPG.
[05:16] <stuck1> Anyone had problems with a virus that removes sql files by copying them onto your usb stick?
[05:16] <n8tuser> pshr_-> hey man script
[05:16] <N3bunel> exodus_ms : ok
[05:16] <Th3raid0r_> I seem to have an odd X crash, I am on a fresh install of 9.10 and when i boot I am lead to a flickering terminal. It seems as if the terminal is phasing between it and another terminal because when i type sometimes it appears in the terminal and sometimes it appears in the flicker... odd... I am also running on modest hardware but with an ATI HD 2600, i believe that may be the problem.
[05:16] <RickZilla> didn't do it from terminal
[05:16] <FireCrotch> pshr_: xvidcap
[05:16] <exodus_ms> N3bunel, I'm doing some searching myself, if I come across anything I will let you know
[05:16] <stuck1> I removed an entire HR companies sql files off there server
[05:16] <N3bunel> exodus_ms : ok thx
[05:16] <Dayofswords> question, i installed (fresh)Ubuntu 9.10, and i managed to import my pgp keys, but when i went to try to encrypt, the right click option to encrypt isn't there, did they remove it? and remove the import key left click thing too?
[05:17] <exodus_ms> N3bunel, sorry I couldnt be of more help. The main thing is to not mess with that box for the time being
[05:17] <stuck1> somehow still can't work out how
[05:17] <FireCrotch> pshr_: There's also "RecordMyDesktop"
[05:17] <sulo_seppa> crohakon: How are you attempting to execute this program?
[05:17] <pshr_> Thanks fellas ;)
[05:17] <stuck1> Could only be read in linux ubuntu
[05:17] <crohakon> sulo_seppa; I am currently in gnome, so I was just right clicking the main .exe and choosing to run it view wine program loader.
[05:17] <N3bunel> exodus_ms : ok thx
[05:17] <Madden10> mikechelen how do i specify directly to a dir in terminal? thanks
[05:18] <Madden10> lets say i want to go to documents
[05:18] <esf36> I only have 2 sides for the cube desktop when I get it to move why dont I see 6 sides???
[05:18] <IdleOne> Madden10: cd ~/documents
[05:18] <rww> Dayofswords: do you have the seahorse-plugins package installed?
[05:18] <sartan> i managed to reinstall grub to the MBR, though it just dropped a grub> prompt (implying my /boot/ paths need help)~  this is 1000% better than where i was for the last 3 hours as now i'm booted into 9.10 again.
[05:18] <sulo_seppa> crohakon: Ok, open a terminal (alt-f2 and enter xterm) then navigate to where the program is located, try wine [program name here] and report back the errors
[05:18] <knoppies> madden10 ~ = home directory
[05:18] <WilliamC> I downloaded 9.10 a few days before release, do I have to reinstall it to get it up to date?
[05:18] <mikechelen> Madden10, something like "tar -xvzf ~/Documents/somefile.tar.gz
[05:18] <mikechelen> "
[05:18] <Dayofswords> not sure, i just installed ubuntu
[05:18] <semanticpc> how do i give inline 'for' in tcsh ?
[05:18] <Scunizi> Madden10: cd ~/docu<TAB> .. if documents is capitalized then cd ~/Doc<TAB>
[05:18] <Th3raid0r_> I seem to have an odd X crash, I am on a fresh install of 9.10 and when i boot I am lead to a flickering terminal. It seems as if the terminal is phasing between it and another terminal because when i type sometimes it appears in the terminal and sometimes it appears in the flicker... odd... I am also running on modest hardware but with an ATI HD 2600, i believe that may be the problem. Sorry to be a pestilence, but i need thi
[05:18] <sartan> thankfully i had enough tools on 9.04's livecd to run some apt-get remove grub2 && apt-get install grub operations for my 9.10 install haha
[05:19] <rww> Dayofswords: then probably not. It's not installed by default any more for some silly reason. Try installing that.
[05:19] <Jordan_U> !final | WilliamC
[05:19] <Madden10> aah ok
[05:19] <exodus_ms> N3bunel, did you at anytime recieve a ""cannot mount filesystem" error" ?
[05:19] <Madden10> thanks guys
[05:19] <RickZilla> n8tuser: I right-click on the icon, select "Mount Volume"....gives me an error that says "unable to mount location, can't mount file"
[05:19] <WilliamC> ubottu, thanks.
[05:19] <Brent> is anyone available to help me with a SLI problem with ubuntu 9.1?
[05:19] <N3bunel> yep
[05:19] <N3bunel> exodus_ms : yes
[05:19] <WilliamC> I disabled getting pre-release updates after the last one prevented my display driver from functioning.
[05:19] <n8tuser> RickZilla-> what was your exact command? with root priviledges? <-- use the terminal and use the mount command to do same
[05:20] <RickZilla> k, just type in sudo mount?
[05:20] <knoppies> how do you get the menubar back in x-chat?
[05:20] <esf36> help my cube only has 2 sides and Idea how to have all 6??
[05:20] <Dayofswords> oh i'll try installing it tommorrow, its ina a laptop, and i have dial up on a desktop computer here
[05:20] <ctmjr> Brent: how many cards? and what is the problem
[05:20] <n8tuser> RickZilla-> man mount please
[05:20] <WilliamC> How do you get Ubuntu to auto-login?
[05:20] <sartan> so is there a way i can tell grub> setup to use /absolute/paths instead of /boot/absolute/paths so this doesn't happen again
[05:20] <Brent> 2 cards, geforce 7800gts
[05:20] <knoppies> esf36, if you want it to be a cube it can only have 4 sides, top and bottom cannot be desktops
[05:20] <dukz_> I lost power on my upgrade to ubuntu 9.10. Now, 9.04 can't boot. Something about fstab not finding the uuid/{XXXX....}, I can enter recover console, and then run dpkg --configure -a to continue the update, but then it spits out an error that the file system is read only. When I do a dpk --configure -a --force-all, it still tells me that the system is readonly. Help on this would be appreciated.
[05:20] <knoppies> esf36, but let me go find it quick.
[05:20] <Brent> when i installed ubuntu 9.1 i had no problems, then i installed the nvidia drivers, 185
[05:20] <IdleOne> esf36: change your number of desktops to 4 , bottom right of screen
[05:21] <WSmart> Can't get the DVD .torrent file, all 79,121 bits, to download without error, from http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/, link,  http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/file?info_hash=%9AAX%C2%90%87%A5%CA%05%D5F%13%EE%E3%DA%7D%A0%17S%18  .
[05:21] <Brent> and when it tried to boot, i would get no signal to the monitor
[05:21] <mikechelen> knoppies, right click -> view -> menubar or ctrl+f9
[05:21] <Brent> i couldnt get a display unless i took one of the cards out
[05:21] <crohakon> sulo_seppa; I still get the same errors. The program opens but it does not seem to beable to find all of the data it needs to work 100%
[05:21] <N3bunel> exodus_ms : the upgrade was intrerupted and shuted down
[05:21] <RickZilla> n8tuser: k, tried to mount via terminal, still didn't work
[05:21] <knoppies> mikechelen, thanks.
[05:21] <WilliamC> Brent, have you tried booting into safemode?
[05:21] <mikechelen> WSmart, someone had that problem earlier, maybe try using a magnet link?
[05:21] <exodus_ms> N3bunel, can you reboot and select an older kernel to lauch
[05:21] <wooker> hello
[05:21] <sulo_seppa> crohakon: As in you are missing dlls? Try and locate them on the web and store them in ~/.wine/drive_c/Windows/system32 or whatever
[05:22] <F5> hi wooker
[05:22] <Brent> nope! first thing i did was remove one of the cards and tried again
[05:22] <N3bunel> exodus_ms : yes but the same
[05:22] <Brent> and it came up with no problems
[05:22] <mikechelen> knoppies, glad it worked :)
[05:22] <ahmed> hi
[05:22] <WilliamC> Using pre-release updates is a bad idea, isn't it?
[05:22] <N3bunel> exodus_ms : was intrerupted when the last 10 15 package
[05:22] <Madden10> thank u guys. this "unrar e -kb archive.part01.rar" does the job
[05:22] <Jordan_U> dukz_: Have you tried editing your grub menu at boot replacing root=UUID=6161015c-0fe3-40ec-8614-6575e8db8b83 with root=/dev/sda1 ?
[05:22] <exodus_ms> N3bunel, you select an older kernel and your system still boots to command line?
[05:22] <Brent> do you know how i would go about getting sli to work?
[05:22] <crohakon> No, it is not a DDL error, it just does not seem to be able to find its support files... like the data directory
[05:22] <Brent> if i boot with both cards in i get no display
[05:23] <knoppies> WilliamC, Only if you not into the bleading edge (where stuff half works)
[05:23] <crohakon> sulo_seppa; No, it is not a DDL error, it just does not seem to be able to find its support files... like the data directory
[05:23] <daleharvey> http://pastebin.me/94425ea95cb4442608f85ebb3e5197ce my ubuntu freezes when doing a recovery mode boot, thats the last of the log messages
[05:23] <dukz_> Jordan_U: no, do you have a guide on how to do that from recovery console?
[05:23] <n8tuser> RickZilla->  what was your exact command from the terminal?
[05:23] <RickZilla> n8tuser: Do you want to see the results from the terminal when I tried to mount?
[05:23] <WilliamC> knoppies, well, last time it killed my driver.
[05:23] <N3bunel> exodus_ms : i chose a older kernel but not working the same eroro canot mount etc...
[05:23] <Rabbitbunny> crohakon: Do you have WINE set to the correct version of windows?
[05:23] <RickZilla> n8tuser: exact command was sudo mount
[05:23] <Cammy> What's with this new Ubuntu Software Centre, I can't Install or Remove anything?!
[05:23] <StrangeCharm> can a thin client with no hdd boot ubuntu over ethernet from a server?
[05:23] <crohakon> Rabbitbunny; yes.
[05:23] <Guest93701> any arabic person here?
[05:23] <n8tuser> RickZilla-> did you try to man mount and see how you issue the command?
[05:23] <Jordan_U> dukz_: You can't do it from the recovery console if you filesystem is read only
[05:24] <RickZilla> n8tuser: I don't know what that is
[05:24] <rww> !arabic | Guest93701
[05:24] <n8tuser> RickZilla-> okay, a good introduction to man pages,.. man man
[05:24] <exodus_ms> N3bunel, I'm sorry man. At this point all I can do is suggest links that I find.
[05:24] <durt> Cammy, just a replacement for Add/Remove, what errors are you seeing?
[05:24] <Jordan_U> dukz_: Reboot, hold shift during boot and when you see the grub menu press "e" to edit the first entry
[05:24] <Scunizi> StrangeCharm: yes.. look for info on ltsp
[05:24] <exodus_ms> N3bunel, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mountall/+bug/447747
[05:24] <Rabbitbunny> Guest93701: There are channels for most languages, append your language code to get there, such as #ubuntu-es for spanish.
[05:24] <vix> i was wondering if i cn import pidgin *accounts* etc into empathy ?
[05:24] <Cammy> durt, there's just no way to tick/untick any programs
[05:24] <mikechelen> StrangeCharm, yes, that is usually with PXE
[05:24] <Th3raid0r_> I seem to have an odd X crash, I am on a fresh install of 9.10 and when i boot I am lead to a flickering terminal. It seems as if the terminal is phasing between it and another terminal because when i type sometimes it appears in the terminal and sometimes it appears in the flicker... odd... I am also running on modest hardware but with an ATI HD 2600, i believe that may be the problem.
[05:24] <Cammy> And in the menu, Install and Remove won't highlight
[05:25] <x4556> i cannot enable desktop effects, and I have compiz installed?
[05:25] <dukz_> Jordan_U: ok, I'll do that. will get back to you.
[05:25] <RickZilla> n8tuser: Thanks, but I need to get some files onto a usb drive tonight, normally I don't mind learning that stuff, but I'm in a crunch for time tonight
[05:25] <N3bunel> exodus_ms : but how i rerun the instalation
[05:25] <jeffhmb> agoole: lspci |grep VGA
[05:25] <Scunizi> Th3raid0r_: most likely..
[05:25] <vix> its painful to add all accounts on empathy again :(
[05:25] <Lint> Cammy, remove this PoS, use Synaptic instead
[05:26] <Cammy> Lint, I'd rather work out how to get this one working, it looks nicer
[05:26] <creek23> hello, i need help upgrading from mounted iso -- cdromupgrade does not work.
[05:26] <Scunizi> Th3raid0r_: most likely it's the driver for the video card.. did you activate the propriatory driver?
[05:26] <Cammy> And so will be more appealing to the people I want to sell netbooks to
[05:26] <n8tuser> RickZilla-> what kind of filesystem is on the usb drive?
[05:26] <araa-kodok> hi all
[05:26] <x4556> i cannot enable desktop effects, and I have compiz installed?
[05:26] <Th3raid0r_> Scunizi: well i took out the fglrx modules via purge and i adjusted the computer to boot with radeonhd with the same problem.
[05:26] <exodus_ms> N3bunel, you can try dist-upgrade from the command line on your system
[05:26] <spO> i am trying to install this 9.10 on a hard drive that has windows 7 and ubuntu 9.04  , but i acnnot select it so it replaces the 9.10
[05:26] <Cammy> It looks more like an online shopping experience, which is how I think people prefer
[05:26] <ctmjr> Brent: you can try sudo  nvidia-xconfig --sli=on then reboot with both cards in
[05:26] <StrangeCharm> thanks, Scunizi , mikechelen
[05:26] <araa-kodok> how to detect mya video card
[05:26] <dsgahahahah> I have a quick question that maybe someone can help me with. I upgraded to Ubuntu 9.10, and now it seems that I can utilize the login app in order to bypass the initial login screen; i.e. to have automated login..... anyone know how to fix this? It's just grayed out when I open the login manager....
[05:26] <N3bunel> exodus_ms : i try this bun the replay was red only file system
[05:27] <Jordan_U> spO: Can you rephrase that please?
[05:27] <Lint> Cammy, people prefer context menus and working interface, no other way aroud
[05:27] <araa-kodok> i can't run compiz on my graph card
[05:27] <n8tuser> spO does it have an extra  space on your drive?
[05:27] <SjB> dukz_, you can mount your root fs rw with mount -rw -o remount /
[05:27] <dsgahahahah> sorry.... i meant to say I can't utilize the login manager
[05:27] <Jordan_U> dsgahahahah: You need to click the lock to unlock it
[05:27] <Cammy> Lint, shut up if you're not going to help me with it
[05:27] <Brent> thank you, i'll try that\
[05:27] <Th3raid0r_> Scunizi: needless to say I was using the proprietary driver before hand
[05:27] <bigfootbuilt> I have a problem that carried over from 9.04 to 9.10...I want a transparent terminal window that sees the window that is open behind it instead of the desktop wallpaper. My other PC does it just find. Any ideas? thank you
[05:27] <Cammy> Troll
[05:27] <dsgahahahah> I tried, it doesn't work
[05:27] <vix> its painful to add all accounts on empathy again :( can i import the accounts from pidgin?
[05:27] <exodus_ms> N3bunel, check that second link I gave you. I suggest at one point how to "mount" everything with the proper permissions from the command line
[05:28] <mikechelen> StrangeCharm, maybe check out Edubuntu, it is supposed to have some netbooting options
[05:28] <mneptok> Cammy: please be polite
[05:28] <Scunizi> Th3raid0r_: I'm not good with ati but I remember that with mesa 7.1+ some ati cards were broken.. not sure if that is still the case or not. and not sure if your card is on the list
[05:28] <esf36> ok now the cube works but the top and bottom is yellow why is there not a window there?
[05:28] <dxdemetriou> from "update manager" the distribution update is hang. it's grayed in downloading and I don't have the cancel option.
[05:28] <ck773> !abuse Cammy
[05:28] <n8tuser> bigfootbuilt-> sometimes if we do not know, you may be able to find answers via google
[05:28] <ck773> !abuse
[05:28] <spO> i guess i will install windows 7 again and then install the new ubuntu
[05:28] <Jordan_U> bigfootbuilt: You need to enable compiz ( desktop effects ) but if they aren't enabled by default you probably have a driver problem
[05:28] <RickZilla> n8tuser: I'm assuming fat32
[05:28] <Scunizi> spO: or install ubuntu and install wind 7 in a vm
[05:28] <vix> its painful to add all accounts on empathy again :( can i import the accounts from pidgin?
[05:28] <bigfootbuilt> Jordan_U: I'll check it out. thanks
[05:28] <Th3raid0r_> Scunizi: Well it must be a recent regression, I was running this card fine on both drivers with ubuntu 9.04
[05:29] <dsgahahahah> Jordan_u - any other suggestions?
[05:29] <Scunizi> Th3raid0r_: then your card isn't on the list.. 9.04 they were broke as well
[05:29] <dukz_> SjB: ok, will do that. thanks.
[05:29] <mikechelen> vix, does pidgin have any account export options/
[05:29] <n8tuser> RickZilla-> try  this first,  sudo fdisk -l   and paste it in pastebin for me to see the results
[05:29] <mikechelen> ?
[05:29] <Th3raid0r_> Scunizi: this is odd, everything worked fine on the live CD, but things are as broken as ever on an install, it doesn't add up.
[05:30] <spO> to install ubuntu i need only /  and swap mount points?
[05:30] <jdahm> Hey I'm running a program on 9.10 using X11libs and it's crashing with error 29 illegal seek, but the same program running on my friends computer with 9.04 seems to work fine.  Did something in the X11 libs break recently?
[05:31] <evilbug> i just upgraded to 9.10 (x64) and fluxbox apparently is incompatible with it :(
[05:31] <esf36>  ok now the cube works but the top and bottom is yellow why is there not a window there?
[05:31] <RickZilla> What's the url for the pastebin in here?
[05:31] <spO> what mount poitns do i need, usually,  just / and swap?
[05:31] <bigfootbuilt> Why is it when I open "hardware drivers", it only lists a driver for one item? On my laptop it lists the wireless card. On my PC it just lists the Nvidia card
[05:31] <durt> !paste
[05:31] <vix> mikechelen: i am looking to import pidgin accounts into empathy, i have just installed 9.10 and no pidgin here to go to export-accounts...can i import the accounts from a file in the pidgin folder?
[05:32] <sh4d3sl4y3r_> hello, can anyone provide me the hash to the 9.10 iso?
[05:32] <gOLDfeesh> I was just wondering about Ubuntu karmic if they fixed the udev issue with bitpim. Also, I'm running Jaunty, and I was wondering if it was really worth updating. I've heard that 9.10 (am64), is still buggy
[05:32] <Jordan_U> bigfootbuilt: It only lists drivers not enabled by default, i.e. proprietary drivers
[05:32] <RickZilla> n8tuser: http://paste.ubuntu.com/304809/
[05:32] <x4556> i cannot enable desktop effects, and I have compiz installed?
[05:32] <mikechelen> vix, there is an .xml file with all the pidgin accounts, but idk if empathy can import it
[05:32] <bigfootbuilt> Thanks again
[05:32] <vix> i cant see empathy in the "system tray"
[05:32] <mneptok> sh4d3sl4y3r_: the md5sums are in the download dirs on the mirrors
[05:32] <gOLDfeesh> sp0 you'd want /home too yeah?
[05:32] <mikechelen> vix, you can install pidgin again and the accounts should still be saved
[05:33] <mneptok> sh4d3sl4y3r_: and there is no single image file
[05:33] <Th3raid0r_> Scunizi: this is odd, everything worked fine on the live CD, but things are as broken as ever on an install, it doesn't add up.
[05:33] <dsgahahahah> anyone know why I can't unlock in the login screen settings?
[05:33] <n8tuser> RickZilla-> here is your clue line 16 Disk /dev/sdb doesn't contain a valid partition table
[05:33] <vix> mikechelen: how? its a fresh install
[05:33] <Lint> sp0 you don't need swap partition, unless you want hibernation.
[05:33] <WSmart> mikechelen: I'm more concerned with why it doesn't work.   Wondering if it's an ISP thing, or what.  Works there, all 79,121 bits?     http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/file?info_hash=%9AAX%C2%90%87%A5%CA%05%D5F%13%EE%E3%DA%7D%A0%17S%18
[05:33] <n8tuser> RickZilla-> it does not recognize what you got in your usb drive
[05:33] <mikechelen> vix, its icon is combined with the user controls
[05:33] <vix> my pidgin is on anther partition (fedora)
[05:33] <mneptok> Lint: you need swap if you have low amounts of RAM
[05:33] <RickZilla> n8tuser: Ok, would that be a bad drive perhaps? the usb drive itself is fubared?
[05:34] <Scunizi> Th3raid0r_: Ati is an odd one to configure.. sorry I don't have the answers.. I'd log a bug against it.
[05:34] <RickZilla> n8tuser: It worked fine last night
[05:34] <mikechelen> vix, well you can copy the pidgin accounts file over
[05:34] <n8tuser> RickZilla-> possibly. yeah, as the fdisk -l  command results indicates
[05:34] <spO> how come ubuntu 9.10 doesn't come with an installation option that simply writes over old ubuntu? instead i have to do manual or something similar
[05:34] <vix> and how do i import. i dont see any import option inempathy
[05:34] <n8tuser> RickZilla-> things can go bad within overnight.. so it may have been good last night, but not anymore..
[05:35] <x_newserver> favicons are broken in Firefox within the "Bookmarks Toolbar".  This is also visible on the Ubuntu homepage.  See here:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8193725
[05:35] <RickZilla> n8tuser: Thanks for taking the time to help, I'll see if I can track down another drive. Your help here is very much appreciated.
[05:35] <Lint> sp0, use an 'Alternative CD' for advanced installer
[05:35] <Bluey> wow I had some nutball mount points -- anyone notice mount points on usb drives with underscore (_) characters?
[05:35] <n8tuser> spO-> because it does not know if you want to save the old install? like if you have windows in one partition.. you can use a default of overwriting everything though
[05:36] <mneptok> spO: how old a version?
[05:36] <alejandro> hola
[05:36] <mikechelen> WSmart, yeah it seems to download fine with epiphany or wget
[05:36] <dr3mro> plz any on help me change my display dimentions as there is no xorg.conf i dont know how to make settings permenant dr3mro@Amilo:~$ xdpyinfo | grep dimension
[05:36] <dr3mro>   dimensions:    1280x800 pixels (339x212 millimeters)
[05:36] <mneptok> spO: if Jaunty, why not just upgrade in place from within the installed version?
[05:36] <merma> am i the only one who is feeling ubuntu 9.10 slower than 9.04?
[05:36] <almoxarife> merma: how?
[05:36] <Bluey> merma: it does seem slower
[05:36] <Offplanet> catch 22, wubi install of jaunty, updated to beta of Karmic worked fine. grub update to grub2 blew up! now cann't boot asus express go, vista, or Karmic. Looking for recovery suggestions to recove boot to each partition. thx
[05:37] <merma> almoxarife, Bluey it just feels less responsive, when moving/resizing/minimizing/maximizing windows
[05:37] <Scunizi> dr3mro: check out docs on xrandr and it's uses..
[05:37] <n8tuser> dr3mro-> try xrandr , i dont know all the details, but you can man xrandr
[05:37] <spO> lint, what is alternative cd?
[05:37] <_syntax_> It seems faster in my opinion
[05:37] <ejv> help! where are the 9.10 md5sum hashes?!?!?!
[05:37] <almoxarife> merma: I gained a lot of what I suppose is getup when I took it to ext4, you at ext4?
[05:37] <Bluey> merma: I seems much slower on big file copies
[05:37] <x4556> i cannot enable desktop effects, and I have compiz installed?
[05:37] <merma> almoxarife, yes
[05:37] <Jordan_U> Offplanet: wubi doesn't use a normal grub or grub2, I think it's a separate branch called grub4dos
[05:38] <durt> merma, if this is a new install, there could be one time only tasks running in the background
[05:38] <ctmjr> ejv: on the download page
[05:38] <n8tuser> Offplanet-> wubi is not a true installation, it is like a show model, so upgrading such is not really ideal
[05:38] <merma> durt, im rebooted several times
[05:38] <Loafers> Firefox doesn't display favicons, does not retain tabs and windows from previous sessions.  I posted in firefox, no response.  I posted on forums and others have the same problem too.  Now what do i do?  Sit and wait until someone fixes?
[05:38] <merma> ive*
[05:38] <ejv> ctmjr: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes - they are usually on this page
[05:38] <Jordan_U> Offplanet: You need to restore whatever bootloader wubi came with
[05:38] <almoxarife> merma: I think its faster now, or the same at least
[05:38] <ejv> ctmjr: and they aren't :(
[05:38] <Th3raid0r_> Hmm, yet another reason I am forced to use windows. Contrary to popular belief, Ubuntu doesn't just work in most cases. I am now stuck with a useless ext4 partition and an ATI Graphics Card that is causing weird bugs that won't let me even boot. It is this that is keeping most linux from going mainstream. As to my experiences, I am not new to ATI cards, and it is the new boot process that makes this problem difficult, I am una
[05:38] <wers> this is a silly question but, how do i send messages on gwibber 2.0 that comes with karmic? lol
[05:38] <Th3raid0r_> Loaded the buggy module.
[05:38] <durt> merma, that would not stop the tasks fro restarting
[05:38] <cyris|> Hey everyone. Will the 9.10 beta auto update to the release version of 9.10?
[05:38] <vix> where is the option in empathy
[05:38] <n8tuser> Loafers-> are you using tmpfs to run firefox?
[05:38] <Offplanet> Jordan_U thanks I will look
[05:38] <vix> to import cntacts
[05:38] <Lint> sp0 it's a distribution CD with text-mode advanced installer
[05:39] <raik> my net connection keeps disconnecting. any solution?
[05:39] <gOLDfeesh> cyris|, yes
[05:39] <Bluey> cyris|: yes
[05:39] <Loafers> n8tuser, I have no clue what that is, so unlikely no
[05:39] <vix> where is the option in empathy, to import pidgin accounts from an xml file
[05:39] <n8tuser> raik-> wifi? or  ethernet cable?
[05:39] <cyris|> gOLDfeesh, Bluey thanks
[05:39] <spO> lint, it comes with desktop cd destribution, rihgt?
[05:39] <gOLDfeesh> cyris|, no prob
[05:39] <And4713[LT]> wers, the box to type the messages is at the bottom but has no height, drag the bar up to see it
[05:39] <arachnid> #ubuntu-us-ny
[05:39] <hackel> I'm trying to install 9.10 from the alternate installer CD (lpia) and it appears to have stalled at "Setting users and passwords".  It looks like it is zeroing out my swap partition with dd.  Should I just leave this running indefinitely or what would you suggest?
[05:39] <jitender> hi every body
[05:40] <artophats> hey everyone. I cannot install any new packages in my fresh Kubuntu 9.10 install. The KDE Firefox installer brings up a message that says "Requested packages are already installed." Attempting to install anything from the terminal results in a "E: Package _________ has no installation candidate" error. what's going on?
[05:40] <Loafers> !hi | jitender
[05:40] <n8tuser> Loafers-> it meant you can run firefox from ram, makes it faster.. but you have to do some tricks to save the settings afterwards
[05:40] <wers> And4713[LT], coolness!! silly bug. lol
[05:40] <roh> hi there
[05:40] <Jordan_U> hackel: Did you choose the encrypted home option?
[05:40] <merma> it is very stable though
[05:40] <vix> where is the option in empathy, to import pidgin accounts from an xml file ?
[05:40] <Bluey> hackel: did you md5sum your download?
[05:40] <And4713[LT]> wers, I discovered it yesterday when wondering the same thing
[05:40] <Lint> sp0 no it's a separate iso to download from ubuntu site (if I understood your question correctly)
[05:40] <Loafers> !repeat | vix
[05:41] <jitender> ubottu, how we can convert ms -outlook mails in thunderbird
[05:41] <hackel> Jordan_U:  Yes I did...
[05:41] <wers> And4713[LT], good thing you figured out. it's hard to find that
[05:41] <Defcon1> just got KK up and running, but my primary monitors are backwards and I did not have this problem in 9.04... any ideas on how to change it?
[05:41] <hackel> Bluey:  No, but I will now. :)
[05:41] <rad_sci_guy> can't mount nfs share drive in karmic.  I'm using the same fstab line from my jaunty install where it worked fine anyone else having a problem with nfs mount?
[05:41] <roh> i just upgraded from 8.10 to 9.10 via 9.04 and having trouble regaining my old synaptics touchpad config
[05:41] <vix> :( ok
[05:41] <Bluey> hackel: hang on I;ll get you the values
[05:41] <agoole> hi, my xorg locks up saying it can't find /dev/fb0, how can I fix this ?
[05:41] <katyl> rad_sci_guy: Just checked mine, works fine
[05:41] <Dayofswords> i wonder wha the world would be like... f linux got 51% of market share...
[05:41] <Swish> any idea when 8.04.4LTS will be out?
[05:42] <Loafers> Dayofswords, more viruses would be made for linux :)
[05:42] <Scunizi> Swish: ??
[05:42] <rad_sci_guy> kathyl did you have to install any nfs packages?  I did a fresh install
[05:42] <vix> It is not currently possible to import accounts after you have completed the first-run assistant. - brilliant
[05:42] <Dayofswords> other than that
[05:42] <Bluey> hackel: here's the md5sums -- http://releases.ubuntu.com/karmic/MD5SUMS
[05:42] <Dayofswords> =p
[05:42] <Lint> Dayofswords, we would all already died. #ubuntu-offtopic is this way ------------------>
[05:42] <jitender> how we can see hidden files in ubuntu
[05:42] <Swish> Scunizi?  8.04.3LTS is out now.  I'm wondering when the next revision will come out
[05:42] <Offplanet> Has anyone resized ntfs partition with parted?
[05:42] <agoole> hi, my xorg locks up saying it can't find /dev/fb0, how can I fix this ?
[05:42] <Lint> jitender, Ctrl+H? -a?
[05:42] <Jordan_U> !anyone | Offplanet
[05:42] <Swish> Offplanet, I've done it with gparted's liveCD
[05:43] <daleharvey> anyone know what would cause a " Clocksource tsc unstable "
[05:43] <n8tuser> vix is the /home a separate partition? those can be moved over eh?
[05:43] <Bluey> jitender: are you using nautilus?
[05:43] <Lint> agoole, which graphic card do you have?
[05:43] <artophats> hey everyone. I cannot install any new packages in my fresh Kubuntu 9.10 install. The KDE Firefox installer brings up a message that says "Requested packages are already installed." Attempting to install anything from the terminal results in a "E: Package _________ has no installation candidate" error. what's going on?
[05:43] <jimbeam12_> a quick way to fix windowss??
[05:43] <Swish> daleharvey, what about if you've got "speedstep" or other clockspeed modifying stuff turned on?
[05:43] <almoxarife> testing pidgin, someone use my nick, please and thnks
[05:43] <jimbeam12_> install ubuntu ..l
[05:43] <vix> no home is on /
[05:43] <roh> meaning: xorg uses hal instead of direct access since 9.04 and i cannot find out how to get hal to set the right config for the synaptics driver in my case. i want the full touchpad to be a scrollregion (usually only on the right and lower border) in the old days that worked by setting the edges to 0
[05:43] <jitender> no i am not using
[05:43] <Defcon1> is there a way to switch primary monitors in ubuntu 9.10?
[05:43] <Loafers> jitender, Ctrl-h
[05:43] <Loafers> jitender, ls -a for bash
[05:43] <gOLDfeesh> Will i have to recompile my b43 drivers?
[05:43] <[A]KangB> Hi people, I need to download the PS3 ubuntu CD.. but, with this new release, the server has been colapsed.. does anybody knows where are the torrent page to download it? thanks
[05:43] <rad_sci_guy> Offplanet I also have done it with parted magic
[05:43] <eday> Hi! I was wondering how to get the "expert mode" installer in ubuntu-9.10-desktop-amd64.iso. Doesn't seem to be obvious in boot options.
[05:43] <Scunizi> Swish: the next LTS release is with 10.04.. there won't be a 8.04.4
[05:43] <agoole> Lint: an old one, Geforce 440 mx or something
[05:43] <gOLDfeesh> ah poo. I have to redownload packages.
[05:43] <bigfootbuilt> Has anyone else had problems getting a Rocketfish 7.1 sound card to work? It shows it is using a driver, ca0106 type, and it recognizes the card, but I have no sound. Nothing is muted either.
[05:43] <daleharvey> Swish: nope its a vanialla install
[05:44] <ctmjr> ejv: your right took me a minute here you go http://noncdn.releases.ubuntu.com/9.10/MD5SUMS
[05:44] <Loafers> [A]KangB, http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=1&ved=0CAsQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ubuntu.com%2Fgetubuntu%2Fdownloadmirrors&ei=F33qSvbqH8iWtgeGxrgw&usg=AFQjCNEja7icC8G-N1eF_etGEmvCZb4QAA&sig2=xp_p8AyZgLQC_GqUmg-oTQ
[05:44] <Offplanet> got my answer thank you
[05:44] <Swish> daleharvey, what about in your BIOS?
[05:44] <Jordan_U> !alternate | eday
[05:44] <Lint> eday, press F6 on the boot screen
[05:44] <agoole> agoole: I tried to remove all nvidia drivers, and reset my xorg but still nothing
[05:44] <ian_uk_me> hoy hoy
[05:44] <hackel> Bluey:  thanks, that didn't have the lpia images, but I found it, and it was fine.
[05:44] <hackel> I just got impatient, it is finishing up now.  Sorry. :)
[05:44] <eday> Jordan_U: I saw that, but was curious before I download another iso, since I already have -desktop
[05:44] <rad_sci_guy> It looks like you have to install nfs-common in order to get nfs share to work on fresh karmic install
[05:45] <[A]KangB> Loafers, thats for i386 and amd64...im looking for PPC+PS3
[05:45] <Bluey> hackel: okay that's usually something overlooked
[05:45] <Jordan_U> eday: What do you want to do specifically?
[05:45] <eday> Lint: I did, not an option. Just ACPI settings and free-sw only
[05:45] <daleharvey> there doesnt seem to be much fancy in bios
[05:45] <eday> Jordan_U: finer grained pkg installer
[05:45] <gOLDfeesh> !aptitude
[05:46] <Jordan_U> eday: Then you do need the alternate or minimal CD
[05:46] <jimbeam12_> anyon like ubunto 9.10?
[05:46] <eday> Jordan_U: ok, thanks! Wanted to double check before hitting the mirror again. :)
[05:46] <jitender> how we can convert ms-outlook mails in  Mozilla-thunderbird
[05:46] <Th3raid0r_> Okay, who really knows how to deal with ATI bugs? I need to talk to such a person.
[05:46] <Lint> eday, it could be because you have live-cd version? and no, even in expert mode you cannot choose which packages tyo install
[05:46] <Jordan_U> eday: np
[05:46] <artophats> hey everyone. I cannot install any new packages in my fresh Kubuntu 9.10 install. The KDE Firefox installer brings up a message that says "Requested packages are already installed." Attempting to install anything from the terminal results in a "E: Package _________ has no installation candidate" error. what's going on?
[05:46] <OsamaK_> Will my third-party software (that I installed on 9.04) be broken when I upgrade to the new release?
[05:46] <bigfootbuilt> jimbeam12: I like it, but would like it more if I could get the sound to work with my rocketfish card
[05:46] <Swish> jimbeam12_, I'm using it now (server version) because the 8.04LTS version didn't install properly from a USB flash stick
[05:46] <esf36> I am about to be shot for this comment but here goes....Ubuntu is linux based right....
[05:46] <ian_uk_me> does n e 1 use JTV? i need an address which i can't get using a PDA
[05:46] <Jordan_U> eday: And you can always torrent :)
[05:46] <lstarnes> esf36: yes, it is based on linux
[05:46] <Flannel> OsamaK_: Depends on whether the third party repos support Karmic
[05:47] <nick> almoxarife:
[05:47] <Bluey> esf36: yuppers
[05:47] <eday> Jordan_U: There's a mirror a couple miles away from me, but still a bit slow due to my connection. :)
[05:47] <Defcon1> is there a way to switch primary monitors in ubuntu 9.10? I have 2 external monitors plugged in
[05:47] <Vesayth> Hello! I just installed Ubuntu 9.04 on my desktop (64-bit) that already had Vista running on it. It doesn't seem to bring up grub when the computer boots now. It waits for about 10 seconds at a blank screen and then loads Vista
[05:47] <Vesayth> anyone have any ideas?
[05:47] <And4713[LT]> OK so I did an online upgrade with the alt-cd from 9.04 to 9.10 and now that it has finished it seems ubuntu is having trouble mounting the filesystems in the fstab, has anyone seen this problem and or found a solution
[05:47] <And4713[LT]> the message is "One or more of the mounts listed in /etc/fstab cannot yet be mounted" and then it lists the ones its waiting on
[05:47] <almoxarife> I system hangs on "shut down' and 'restart', mine is a upgrade from jaunty, is there a work around?, no in jaunty I didn't have the same issue, I can do a hard shut down with the power button, I thought I saw something mentioned on it, but I can't find it now
[05:47]  * vix is hating empathy
[05:48] <Bluey> Vesayth: which did you install last?  windows or linux?
[05:48] <Vesayth> bluey: ubuntu
[05:48] <ctmjr> !linux | esf36
[05:48] <Bluey> Vesayth: right answer!
[05:48] <S_SubZero> i don't "get" empathy.. it's .. I dont know
[05:48] <StrangeCharm> problem. on a fresh 9.10 install, with several crypted lvm disks, entering the first passphrase at boot goes ok, when prompted for the second, a bunch of messages appear before the phrase can be entered
[05:48] <wire-cracker> any one knows where  I can fin help on Backtrack??
[05:49] <wire-cracker> I need help
[05:49] <boomernang> !flashsound
[05:49] <Vesayth> I've not had this problem on my laptop with any distro of linux, it seems to be something I'm specifically running into on my desktop
[05:49] <ctmjr> wire-cracker: i told you before in #remote-exploit
[05:49] <agoole> Lint: any ideas ?
[05:49] <wire-cracker> no one answered there
[05:49] <Th3raid0r_> Okay, who really knows how to deal with ATI bugs? I need to talk to such a person.
[05:49] <chesss> does the cdrom's eject button work in Karmic Koala ?
[05:49] <Lint> jitender, MS Office Outlook or Outlook Experess?
[05:49] <And4713[LT]> should I rephrase the question or move channels or what?
[05:49] <Lint> agoole, I'm afraid no :(
[05:50] <chesss> or does it require a silly unmount first ?
[05:50] <jitender> Ms office outlook only
[05:50] <n8tuser> !who
[05:50] <ctmjr> wire-cracker: well no one here will help you as it is not ubuntu
[05:50] <OsamaK__> Flannel: what does make software broken with different releases? (gcc/kernel version maybe?) (I had a connection problem)
[05:50] <agoole> Lint: do you konw the command for me to setup a new xorg file ? I can't remember
[05:50] <merma> i copied some podcasts to my Podcasts folders , which Banshee is watching, why aren't them appearing on the podcast list on banshee? I already restarted it
[05:50] <And4713[LT]> n8tuser, no one had answered the initial and I didnt want to highlight anyone in particular
[05:50] <nick> wire-cracker: what's the problem?
[05:50] <ubuntu__1> chesss: does your cdrom eject button work?
[05:51] <Flannel> OsamaK__: Could be a number of things, kernel differences, yeah.  Also, core libraries change too
[05:51] <almoxarife> system hangs on "shut down' and 'restart', mine is a upgrade from jaunty, is there a work around?, no in jaunty I didn't have the same issue, I can do a hard shut down with the power button, I thought I saw something mentioned on it, but I can't find it now
[05:51] <dr3mro> xrandr --fb 1280x800 --fbmm 339x212 --dpi 85 --rate 60
[05:51] <n8tuser> And4713[LT]-> it was not specific to you, many are and it is confusing whose talking to whom
[05:51] <dr3mro> nothing happens
[05:51] <chesss> ubuntu__1: yes ,  but first one has to unmount the cdrom
[05:51] <Th3raid0r_> Okay, who really knows how to deal with ATI bugs? I need to talk to such a person.
[05:52] <wire-cracker> well i am tring to  compile with exploit.c and i get a message all is wrong
[05:52] <And4713[LT]> n8tuser, ahh
[05:52] <boomernang> Hi, I've recently installed 9.10. It's great except I can't get sound in flash videos!(the videos work fine)! MP3 & KDE sounds work fine aswell so it's not a driver issue atleast.. Just need to be pointed in right direction please! I've tried installing alsa-oss and libflashsupport, both not giving me sound after restarting browser.. Any ideas??
[05:52] <Lint> agoole, Xorg -configure?
[05:52] <wire-cracker> is a cross compiling with wine
[05:52] <ubuntu__1> chesss: you do? :) .. well if you say so. i know i dont have to
[05:52] <nick> wire-cracker: don't try to exploit someone else's thing then :)
[05:52] <OsamaK__> Flannel: so, ok. thanks.
[05:52] <n8tuser> almoxarife-> what does it mean hang? system freezes?
[05:52] <wire-cracker> what??
[05:52] <chesss> The initiate let his gaze climb the distinguished white-robed figure standing before him. The Supreme Worshipful Master. The man, in his late fifties, was an American icon, well loved, robust, and incalculably wealthy. His once-dark hair was turning silver, and his famous visage reflected a lifetime of power and a vigorous intellect. ?Take the oath,? the Worshipful Master said, his voice soft like falling snow. ?Complete your journey.? The
[05:52] <chesss> initiate's journey, like all such journeys, had begun at the first degree. On that night, in a ritual similar to this one, the Worshipful Master had blindfolded him with a velvet hoodwink and pressed a ceremonial dagger to his bare chest, demanding: ?Do you seriously declare on your honor, uninfluenced by mercenary or any other unworthy motive, that you freely and voluntarily offer yourself as a candidate for the mysteries and privileges of this
[05:52] <chesss> brotherhood?? ?I do,? the initiate had lied. ?Then let this be a sting to your consciousness,? the master had warned him, ?as well as instant death should you ever betray the secrets to be imparted to you.? At the time, the initiate had felt no fear. They will never know my true purpose here. The initiate let his gaze climb the distinguished white-robed figure standing before him. The Supreme Worshipful Master. The man, in his late fifties, was an
[05:52] <FloodBot1> chesss: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:52] <chesss> American icon, well loved, robust, and incalculably wealthy. His once-dark hair was turning silver, and his famous visage reflected a lifetime of power and a vigorous intellect. ?Take the oath,? the Worshipful Master said, his voice soft like falling snow. ?Complete your journey.? The initiate's journey, like all such journeys, had begun at the first degree. On that night, in a ritual similar to this one, the Worshipful Master had blindfolded him
[05:53] <esf36> I need a little help I am using a PCI Express X-Fi Xtreme Audio  sound card and well I need the driver for it and on their website they only have windows based one and Ideas???
[05:53] <ubuntu__1> how do i check the number of users in this room on irssi?
[05:53] <almoxarife> n8tuser: exactly, freeze at terminal, that's after leaving gui
[05:54] <jeffhmb> #ubuntu-ca
[05:54] <jimbeam12_> hey
[05:54] <Lint> jitender, http://kb.mozillazine.org/Import_.pst_files#Linux
[05:54] <Th3raid0r_> Okay, who really knows how to deal with ATI bugs? I need to talk to such a person.
[05:54] <linux_> Hola una pregunta por que los temas de emerald solo se aplican a la barra y no a toda la ventana?
[05:54] <jitender> lint pls help
[05:54] <dr3mro> how to set resolutiom to 1280x800 and dimensions to 399x212 without xorg.conf
[05:54] <linux_> en lo que queda de la ventana a parte de la barra de titulo queda la apariencia de gnome
[05:54] <tingtong> The initiate let his gaze climb the distinguished white-robed figure standing before him. The Supreme Worshipful Master. The man, in his late fifties, was an American icon, well loved, robust, and incalculably wealthy. His once-dark hair was turning silver, and his famous visage reflected a lifetime of power and a vigorous intellect. ?Take the oath,? the Worshipful Master said, his voice soft like falling snow. ?Complete your journey.? The
[05:54] <Lint> jitender, also Evolution should be able to import PSTs
[05:54] <tingtong> initiate's journey, like all such journeys, had begun at the first degree. On that night, in a ritual similar to this one, the Worshipful Master had blindfolded him with a velvet hoodwink and pressed a ceremonial dagger to his bare chest, demanding: ?Do you seriously declare on your honor, uninfluenced by mercenary or any other unworthy motive, that you freely and voluntarily offer yourself as a candidate for the mysteries and privileges of this
[05:54] <ubuntu__1> Th3raid0r_: try describing your bug and maybe someone will help
[05:55] <Jeruvy> !es | linux_
[05:55] <jimbeam12_> yo
[05:55] <satya> how can i get free latest ubuntu cd?????
[05:55] <tongting> The initiate let his gaze climb the distinguished white-robed figure standing before him. The Supreme Worshipful Master. The man, in his late fifties, was an American icon, well loved, robust, and incalculably wealthy. His once-dark hair was turning silver, and his famous visage reflected a lifetime of power and a vigorous intellect. ?Take the oath,? the Worshipful Master said, his voice soft like falling snow. ?Complete your journey.? The
[05:55] <tongting> initiate's journey, like all such journeys, had begun at the first degree. On that night, in a ritual similar to this one, the Worshipful Master had blindfolded him with a velvet hoodwink and pressed a ceremonial dagger to his bare chest, demanding: ?Do you seriously declare on your honor, uninfluenced by mercenary or any other unworthy motive, that you freely and voluntarily offer yourself as a candidate for the mysteries and privileges of this
[05:55] <almoxarife> linux_: esto es canal de edioma angles
[05:55] <wire-cracker> no one know the solution on the cross compiling with wine for Backtrack
[05:55] <Neil3> hey folks, just pondering switching to ubuntu one from drop box, service wise, they both look very similar though
[05:55] <nick> wire-cracker: #remote-exploit
[05:55] <Th3raid0r_> ubuntu__1: I already have, and i have been here for almost two hours, but people don't seem to know what to do with my bug, it is quite unusual.
[05:55] <wire-cracker> I tried
[05:56] <satya> how can i get latest ubuntu cd for free?????
[05:56] <almoxarife> yeah, what the bot said
[05:56] <ubuntu__1> Th3raid0r_: ah...ok
[05:56] <wire-cracker> but I cannot access I do not know why??
[05:56] <ubuntu__1> satya: burn the iso yourself :)
[05:56] <ubuntu__1> !shipit
[05:56] <Wele> satya: Just download it and burn, else register & you would get it after 10-15 days
[05:56] <Th3raid0r_> I seem to have an odd X crash, I am on a fresh install of 9.10 and when i boot I am lead to a flickering terminal. It seems as if the terminal is phasing between it and another terminal because when i type sometimes it appears in the terminal and sometimes it appears in the flicker... odd... I am also running on modest hardware but with an ATI HD 2600, i believe that may be the problem.
[05:57] <dr3mro> how to set resolutiom to 1280x800 and dimensions to 399x212 without xorg.conf
[05:57] <jimbeam12_> does anyone like the new ubuntu
[05:57] <chalcedony> jimbeam12_, i'm on 9.04 .. love it
[05:57] <WilliamC> Someone should update ubottu to say 9.10
[05:58] <ubuntu__1> Th3raid0r_: i am not a guru by anyways means but what driver are you using?
[05:58] <onats> i have a shell script, which im trying to create a launcher for on desktop. but it does not execute...file permissions have already been set to executable
[05:58] <jitender> how in evolution , we can do this
[05:58] <onats> how do you create shell script shortcuts anyway?
[05:58] <jitender> lint , pls guide
[05:58] <linuxNOOB> hey guys i want to use this theme that i found online, but i just dont know how to actually use it once i have donwloaded it. any help would be much appreciated.     http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Silent+Night+Dark+Enhanced?content=113625&PHPSESSID=1917c37150d836886dae000d9e1306f8
[05:58] <Jordan_U> onats: What are you entering for the laucher?
[05:59] <onats> application in terminal, then the shell script (full path)
[05:59] <wire-cracker> does any one know why some one could be banned from a room... is my first time
[05:59] <onats> @Jordan_U
[05:59] <onats> its such a hassle everytime i need to run this prog, i have to open up a terminal
[05:59] <Jeruvy> linuxNOOB: the easiest is to just drag the download into preferences appearence
[05:59] <wire-cracker> why i am banned... is my first time here
[05:59] <Th3raid0r_> ubuntu__1: well i was using the FGLXR driver, when i discovered that didn't work, i went in using recovery mode, purged that driver and reverted back to radeonhd in my xorg.conf file which had worked with the live cd. I am still suffering from the exact same problem.
[05:59] <wire-cracker> how can I remove it
[06:00] <Lint> jitender, sorry, I never worked with Outlook files. Try import PST in Evolution and then export in some format Thunderbird understands
[06:00] <ctmjr> wire-cracker: did you get banned in remote-exploit
[06:00] <wire-cracker> i never got in
[06:00] <wire-cracker> I just cannot access
[06:00] <creek23> has anyone tried upgrading from mounted ISO?
[06:00] <wire-cracker> and it sais I am banned
[06:00] <wire-cracker> but why
[06:00] <wire-cracker> is my first time here
[06:00] <Jeruvy> !ot | wire-cracker
[06:01] <Th3raid0r_> ubuntu__1: I guess the most peculiar thing about my problem is the fact that the live CD started up without any problems, but now, after the install, I have no clue exactly what went wrong, i do know that it has something to do with X though.
[06:01] <ubuntu__1> Th3raid0r_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI -- have you followed this howto already? if not, you can check it out
[06:01] <jitender> i have tried this for evolution but evolution not import .pst
[06:01]  * Bluey wonders if ubottu knows what a flying leap is?
[06:01] <wire-cracker> hey I am here ok!!
[06:01] <wire-cracker> I am not bodering no one
[06:02] <Jeruvy> jitender: you should export your pst as a csv and then try the import, but you will lose data
[06:02] <toolshed_> hey so I chose the no network upgrade option on the alternative cd and it dies with an error sayhing it can't download?
[06:02] <Bluey> wire-cracker: how can we help?
[06:02] <sakuramboo> i upgraded and now i have these little green on the left hand side, www.sakuramboo.com/Screenshot.png, is it a bug with the 185 nvidia driver?
[06:02] <ctmjr> wire-cracker: ask in #freenode channel and remote-exploit is like that
[06:02] <linuxNOOB> http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Silent+Night+Dark+Enhanced?content=113625&PHPSESSID=1917c37150d836886dae000d9e1306f8
[06:02] <linuxNOOB> how can i install that theme ?
[06:02] <ubuntu__1> Th3raid0r_: thats all the advice i can give. You can try searching the ubuntu forums or launchpad to see if any bug like yours was reported
[06:02] <jitender> ok , i will try
[06:02] <wire-cracker> thanks
[06:03] <ubuntu__1> !theme
[06:03] <daleharvey> if I am setting acpi off in the grub boot menu, whereabouts is it done? on the initrd line?
[06:03] <Th3raid0r_> ubuntu__1: Instructions that require repositories or other internet based objects are useless to me as the recovery with networking doesn't work with wireless. And I also have looked at launchpad and the forums, I can't find much of anything like my problem.
[06:03] <sakuramboo> daleharvey: no, in the kernel line
[06:03] <ubuntu__1> Th3raid0r_: ok. all the best then
[06:03] <daleharvey> ah, linux /boot/ ..... one?
[06:03] <ctmjr> wire-cracker: and it might have something to do with your nick
[06:04] <progmanos1> hi
[06:04] <toolshed_> seriously does network free upgrade?
[06:04] <toolshed_> does it work
[06:04] <sakuramboo> daleharvey: kernel /boot/vmlinux-[some_number]
[06:04] <Th3raid0r_> I seem to have an odd X crash, I am on a fresh install of 9.10 and when i boot I am lead to a flickering terminal. It seems as if the terminal is phasing between it and another terminal because when i type sometimes it appears in the terminal and sometimes it appears in the flicker... odd... I am also running on modest hardware but with an ATI HD 2600, i believe that may be the problem.
[06:05] <Lint> jitender, check http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-mini/Outlook-to-Unix-Mailbox.html
[06:05] <S_SubZero> how can I get empathy to be more proactive?  Right now it just goes "ding" and i have no idea why, until I think to click the envelope and see someone tried to get my attention.  I'd like their chat window to just "pop up" when they try to message me
[06:05] <progmanos1> toolshed_: it should work.  add the karmic cd to your apt source list
[06:05] <toolshed_> the script doesn;t do that?!!!
[06:05] <jitender> ok
[06:05] <Guest86054> hi, can someone say me, where i can find the menu.lst from my grub at 9.10?
[06:06] <Jordan_U> !grub2 | Guest86054
[06:06] <Blank__> /boot/grub/
[06:06] <losha> !torrents
[06:06] <Lint> Guest43962, /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[06:06] <progmanos1> toolshed_: use  apt-cdrom add
[06:06] <esf36>  I need a little help I am using a PCI Express X-Fi Xtreme Audio  sound card and well I need the driver for it and on their website they only have windows based one and Ideas???
[06:06] <Guest86054> Lint, thx
[06:06] <Jordan_U> Guest86054: But you should edit options in /etc/default/grub
[06:07] <EvRide> can someone tell me why Emp is better than Pidgin?
[06:07] <Guest86054> thx Jordan_U
[06:07] <nws> EvRide: it has a lot of potential
[06:07] <Jordan_U> Guest86054: np, be sure to run "sudo update-grub" afterwards for the changes to take effect
[06:07] <EvRide> so it was added prematurely?
[06:08] <jbj1> anyone having success with kubuntu-9.10-dvd-i386.iso torrent? it's just stalled for me but I was able to get torrents for other kubuntu-9.10-*.torrent
[06:08] <jitender> mozilla-thunderbird convert the .pst files but less then 1 gb data ,higer then i gb its go to hang
[06:08] <EvRide> there were errors with it, didn't even load my contact list, so i'm not even going to try it until an update comes out
[06:08] <b0w> anyone here knows how to use fstab? i have some questions about mounting a drive with write permissions
[06:08] <EvRide> ya bow
[06:08] <EvRide> alright, i'll pm you
[06:08] <b0w> EvRide: can you help?
[06:09] <wire-BT> well is not the name bro
[06:09] <Guest86054> ok Jordan_U =)
[06:09] <Guest86054> brb
[06:09] <chompy> I need some help, my external HDD stopped working, it was perfectly fine under 9.10. I took it out and put it in another linux machine and when i plugged it back into 9.10 it won't reconize. not even under windows
[06:10] <matman1> is there any programs that play dvds or is mplayer the only one that works :\
[06:10] <dr3mro> how to set resolutiom to 1280x800 and dimensions to 399x212 without xorg.conf
[06:10] <jitender> is shell script is necessary for schedule backup in ubuntu
[06:11] <jitender> any body give the answer
[06:11] <losha> matman1: vlc usually works too and is better with menus etc....
[06:12] <losha> !backups | jitender maybe this will help
[06:12] <matman1> losha: i tried kaffeine totem and xfmedia and they all fail :s
[06:12] <kankan_> anybody having trouble with login?
[06:12] <matman1> what's up with that :|
[06:13] <losha> matman1: so try vlc. Personally, I use mplayer....
[06:13] <daleharvey> oh awesome
[06:13] <daleharvey> the fix that lets me boot
[06:13] <kankan_> whenever i shut down my computer and afterwarsd starting it it just hanging up
[06:13] <daleharvey> doesnt let me on the internet
[06:13] <matman1> losha: i do to most of the time i just want something easy for my daughter
[06:14] <matman1> yay vlc works :)
[06:14] <And4713[LT]> Is anyone available to help me with a boot problem?
[06:14] <bazhang> And4713[LT], please ask the channel
[06:14] <agus> anyone can help me how to remove gnome from gdm list cz I have removed gnome but it still appear
[06:15] <kankan_> boot problem means are you facing problem in time og logging in??screen gets blank?
[06:15] <And4713[LT]> bazhang, can do
[06:15] <matman1> losha: thanks
[06:15] <And4713[LT]> no kankan_ it cant seem to mount all the filesystems in the fstab
[06:16] <losha> matman1: a pleasure...
[06:16] <Guest60383> Hi
[06:16] <bradpitt> matman1 : your daughter will love XBMC. its very teenager :)
[06:16] <And4713[LT]> I just completed an upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10 and when booting it stops when mounting the filesystems with the message "One or more of the mounts listed in /etc/fstab cannot yet be mounted"
[06:16] <Konvict> 9.10 is epic
[06:16] <Konvict> thats what im running
[06:16] <matman1> bradpitt: she's 5 :p
[06:16] <Guest60383> Ubuntu is Superb!!!!!!!!
[06:17] <And4713[LT]> I can either wait indefinitely or use the recovery console, but Ive run out of things to tey to get it working
[06:17] <erlegreer> I was able to right-click to encrypt files before I wiped and installed 9.10 fresh. I created a new key and still no right-click option. Need to install something? thx
[06:17] <And4713[LT]> anyone have any insight?
[06:17] <losha> And4713[LT]: does it say exactly which filesystems it can't mount?
[06:17] <bradpitt> matman1 : oops, my daughter is 12 :)
[06:17] <And4713[LT]> yes losha it says it is waiting on them
[06:17] <matman1> xbmc wasn't found :\
[06:18] <losha> And4713[LT]: can you comment out the filesystems which don't mount?
[06:18] <And4713[LT]> losha, it would be a bad idea to comment out / and /boot and /var
[06:18] <jitender> schedule backup
[06:19] <lvl21nerd> hello i have a problem on intrepid
[06:19] <losha> And4713[LT]: it says it cannot mount /, /boot and /var ? I can't imagine what would cause that...
[06:19] <JAMD4561> I upgraded to 9.10 and my wireless card which worked in 9.04 will not work,
[06:19] <JAMD4561> Upon checking my Wireless network key seems to have been cleared from the network settings manager
[06:19] <bazhang> jitender, try sbackup
[06:20] <lvl21nerd> when i go to add/remove apps i update avail software and it tells me a long list of things it cant download
[06:20] <roh> hm. seems i need udev or hal config expertise
[06:20] <And4713[LT]> losha, it seems to mount swap and the root partition at some point, but then later says it is waiting on all of them
[06:20] <arquebus> !mint
[06:20] <And4713[LT]> this is confirmed by the recovery console having access to /
[06:20] <dr3mro> hello xdpyinfo detects my dimntions wrong and that affects my video aspect ratio its reported  xdpyinfo | grep dimension
[06:20] <dr3mro>   dimensions:    1280x800 pixels (289x21 millimeters) but it should be 339x212 how can i change it so i fix video aspect ratio :)
[06:21] <arquebus> !mintsupport
[06:22] <bradpitt> matman1 : http://xbmc.org/wiki/?title=HOW-TO_install_XBMC_for_Linux_on_Ubuntu_with_a_minimal_installation_step-by-step
[06:22] <matman1> anyone know where you edit where cds are auto started :/
[06:22] <losha> And4713[LT]: Frankly, I suggest you downgrade back to 9.04. Er, you made a backup before you upgraded, didn't you?
[06:22] <roh> how does on set the 'not in ui' properties of a input device in x now?
[06:23] <And4713[LT]> losha, I do not have a backup of the os itself but all user data etc is fine
[06:23] <kankan_> facing trouble in time of booting....screen gets blank and hung up?
[06:23] <_Trullo> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/team-xbmc/ppa/ubuntu/ jaunty main can I write this or should it be karmic main ?
[06:23] <matman1> bradpitt: i'll try it on my gentoo system first it is in portage
[06:23] <bazhang> _Trullo, are you using karmic or jaunty
[06:23] <KurtKraut> I'm trying to remove all gwibber data but if I do a aptitude purge and then an aptitude install, gwibber comes back with all the previous settings. How can I really purge gwibber data?
[06:24] <dr3mro>   dimensions:    1280x800 pixels (289x21 millimeters) but it should be 339x212 how can i change it so i fix video aspect ratio :)
[06:24] <zeeble> KurtKraut: see if you have a .gwibber directory in your ~/
[06:24] <KurtKraut> zeeble, no, there isn't.
[06:24] <kankan_> anybody facing boot problem?
[06:24] <_Trullo> bazhang, karmic
[06:24] <matman1> i'm not even sure if it is ok to add jaunty things to koala things
[06:24] <KurtKraut> zeeble, he doesn't store any data in ~/gwibber
[06:24] <matman1> or how this stuff works :s
[06:24] <KurtKraut> zeeble, ~/.gwibber I mean
[06:24] <bazhang> _Trullo, does that PPA have a karmic repo
[06:25] <jhb1608> ok, I wonder if they still fixing Karmic
[06:25] <zeeble> what exactly is gwibber?
[06:25] <bradpitt> zeeble : micro blogging client
[06:25] <KurtKraut> zeeble, https://launchpad.net/gwibber/
[06:25] <_Trullo> ok, I wait awhile before installing xbmc then
[06:25] <bigmack83_> how would i make this show the username instead of the name of the computer in the prompt: export PS1='\[\033[0;35m\]\h\[\033[0;33m\] \w\[\033[00m\] $ '
[06:27] <quiescens> kurtkraut: it probably uses gconf
[06:27] <matman1> hmm
[06:27] <kankan_> losha:can you help me pls?
[06:27] <matman1> bigmack83_: add it to your bashrc
[06:28] <disappearedng>  Hey ever since I install awn my global key bindings in gconf-editor no longer works, any idea why?
[06:28] <bigmack83_> matman1, yea it is in there, but it shows the the host name instead of the username
[06:28] <losha> kankan_: if your boot problem is with 9.04 or 9.10, I can't help. I run 8.04....
[06:28] <matman1> hmmm that's what mine did too
[06:28] <Maleko> hey guys, when you do PS, how do list out only PID column?
[06:29] <Jargon>  /part
[06:29] <kankan_>  facing trouble in time of booting....screen gets blank and hung up..i am using 9.10
[06:29] <I_Hate_Freedom> Does anyone know why updating to 9.10 would cause the sound card to not be recognized?
[06:29] <Tesssa> seems like plenty of bugs in 9.10
[06:29] <gOLDfeesh> !boot
[06:30] <KurtKraut> Tesssa, agreed
[06:30] <gOLDfeesh> try thatt kancerman
[06:30] <gOLDfeesh> oops
[06:30] <gOLDfeesh> kankan_,
[06:30] <kankan_> yes?
[06:30] <losha> Maleko: ps -o pid
[06:30] <Codemaster> I am having various issues in Karmia with my Intel AGN4965 wireless chip (ie - disconnects very frequently); anyone have any more information and possible fixes for this>?
[06:30] <losha> Tesssa: no kidding...
[06:30] <gOLDfeesh> !boot | kankan_
[06:30] <Tesssa> my bug is no partition manager just a big white blank space
[06:31] <JonathanEllis> I just installed karmic desktop in a dual boot configuration with windows. Ubuntu wont boot - the machine just boots windows. No grub screen appears. /boot/grub is empty. I wondered about starting grub and typing setup (hd0) but it appears that grub is not installed. (After typing grub the terminal reports "The program 'grub' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing: sudo apt-get install grub". Any ideas please?
[06:31] <MrSchmo> anyone know how to fix firefox not remembering your previous opened tabs? i checked the setting on ff and its set to remember tabs on closing
[06:31] <dukz> ok, i just lost the vim-full package... which replacement should i get?
[06:31] <Maleko> losha, i mean display all processes but show only PID column
[06:31] <KurtKraut> quiescens, is it possible to wipe out data of a certain app thru gconf-editor? All editing options are grey.
[06:31] <losha> Maleko: ps -axo pid
[06:31] <Kerwonz> hello there, how can a i send files on empathy i have ubuntu 9.10 ???
[06:31] <dr3mro>   dimensions:    1280x800 pixels (289x21 millimeters) but it should be 339x212 how can i change it so i fix video aspect ratio :)
[06:32] <kankan_> gOLDfeesh:i cant log in to my system sometime..
[06:32] <I_Hate_Freedom> dukz: It killed vim-full for me as well.
[06:32] <Codemaster> nvm, seems my issue -might- be solved in kernel 2.6.31-6 - i will try this...
[06:32] <Kerwonz> somebody know if I can send files using the protocol MSN ???
[06:33] <mUrshEd> hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[06:33] <Kerwonz> somebody know if I can send files using the protocol MSN on empathy???
[06:33] <mUrshEd> now i'm eating KARMIC KOALA :P
[06:33] <dukz> I_Hate_Freedom: What package did you install to get it back?
[06:33] <mUrshEd> its really testy
[06:33] <mUrshEd> so sweet
[06:33] <And4713[LT]> losha, could it be because I have /tmp in a tmpfs
[06:33] <ashadowbane> @mUrshEd still download it
[06:33] <ashadowbane> :D
[06:33] <Jester86> hey guys, does anyone know if theres a program that allows you to right an image file to.. oh say a portable hdd/flash drive for linux?
[06:33] <ashadowbane> slow internet connection in indonesia
[06:34] <Jester86> i would google it but google is down at least where i am :(
[06:34] <[31d1]> kicking eveyone in ubuntu+1 == 'lame'
[06:34] <losha> And4713[LT]: I don't think so. It's more likely because 9.10 hasn't had enough testing yet....
[06:34] <[31d1]> i dont care about karmic anymore
[06:34] <ashadowbane> why
[06:34] <[31d1]> i wanna talk about the next guy
[06:34] <I_Hate_Freedom> dukz: vim-common
[06:35] <And4713[LT]> losha, heh well it is the first day, also I was mistaken some of those actually are mounted, just apparently not in the way the OS would prefer
[06:35] <mneptok> [31d1]: there's nothing to talk about with no libc yet
[06:35] <mUrshEd> hello all
[06:35] <mUrshEd> how r
[06:35] <matman1> bigmack83_: you still around ?
[06:35] <[31d1]> im just sad cause i got kicked and forcejoined by a robot
[06:35] <dukz> I_Hate_Freedom: it says i already have vim-common installed, but i can't find it anywhere in my path...
[06:35] <bigmack83_> matman1, yea
[06:35] <raik> 9.10 alternate cd for upgrade not working. asks for internet connection and fails. ??? solution
[06:36] <I_Hate_Freedom> dukz: Hmmm.
[06:36] <bigmack83_> i found the answer, i had to change the 'h' in the line to a 'u'
[06:36] <matman1> oh alright
[06:36] <mUrshEd> LOL
[06:36] <bigmack83_> matman1, was that what you were referring to?
[06:36] <I_Hate_Freedom> dukz: What other vim packages do you have installed?
[06:37] <dukz> I_Hate_Freedom: vim-common and vim-tiny. I'll try to remove them and reinstall
[06:37] <quizme> is there an ubuntu software that saves your terminal window positions?
[06:37] <matman1> bigmack83_: yes
[06:37] <quiescens> kurtkraut: you can probably do: gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/gwibber but I don't use it so I don't know for sure it would work
[06:37] <bigmack83_> ok
[06:37] <bigmack83_> yea i just found it
[06:37] <I_Hate_Freedom> Has anyone has their sound card disappear while upgrading?
[06:37] <FloodBot3> !netsplit
[06:38] <raik> how to upgrade 9.04 to 9.10 without internet connection?
[06:38] <bigmack83_> I_Hate_Freedom, yea, i had to go to the sound card preferences and change something. you using the also drivers?
[06:38] <bigfootbuilt> I Hate Freedom: Mine didn't disappear but I have no sound
[06:38] <EvRide> get a cd raik
[06:38] <I_Hate_Freedom> dukz: Use 'sudo apt-get install vim'.
[06:38] <Flannel> raik: Alternate CD
[06:38] <raik> what cd evride
[06:38] <EvRide> either request one, or burn it to cd
[06:38] <raik> alternate cd also needs internet connection flannel
[06:39] <RussellAlan> http://paste.ubuntu.com/304844/
[06:39] <Flannel> raik: Not if you've never had the internet (and don't have anything installed except what's on the alternate CD)
[06:39] <RussellAlan> Anyone help?
[06:39] <bigmack83_> I_Hate_Freedom, Sysytem -> sound -> output select the proper output
[06:39] <libtech> just updated to karmic, two-finger scrolling in firefox isnt very 'smooth'
[06:39] <I_Hate_Freedom> bigmack83: It doesn't show up in Sound/Preferences.
[06:39] <raik> i downloaded alternate cd but while upgrading it asks for internet connection and  later says fail? flannel
[06:40] <dukz> I_Hate_Freedom: it's asking me to choose between vim-nox or vim-gtk
[06:40] <I_Hate_Freedom> bigmack83: The only option it gives me is Dummy Output.
[06:40] <spO> where is the udev scripts located at?
[06:40] <spO> in some var directory i think
[06:40] <bigmack83_> I_Hate_Freedom, well my sound is based on alsa so im not sure if its different. you dont have the output tab in sound preferences?
[06:40] <dukz> I_Hate_Freedom: it's asking me to choose between vim-nox or vim-gtk
[06:40] <Jester86> can anyone tell me if there is a way in linux to burn an iso to a folder? .. I need to get an iso on my thumbdrive
[06:40] <jackobian>  hmmm
[06:40] <Flannel> raik: It might claim to need the internet, because it thinks you're doing a regular upgrade, but then it sees the packages on the alternate CD and calms down.  Again, if you have anything installed that isn't on the alternate CD, you'll need to download those packages.
[06:40] <brocgiddens> i'm officially totally up to date
[06:41] <binarysolo> does anyone know where i can obtain an invite for an academic/e-learning based torrent website like bitme, bitspyder, or elbitz?
[06:41] <bigmack83_> dukz, gtk if using gnome
[06:41] <I_Hate_Freedom> dukz: vim-nox unless you want the gui.
[06:41] <sobersabre> I have a dkms question.
[06:41] <raik> can i boot from alternate cd and upgrade 9.04? flannel
[06:41] <RussellAlan> Could anyone help with this http://paste.ubuntu.com/304844/
[06:41] <Jester86> ***** Can anyone please help me.. trying to burn/rip and iso to a file/folder location .. is there a linux tool for this?
[06:41] <dr3mro>   dimensions:    1280x800 pixels (289x21 millimeters) but it should be 339x212 how can i change it so i fix video aspect ratio :)
[06:41] <RussellAlan> I can't even get install
[06:41] <sobersabre> I have upgraded from ubuntu 9.04, and my X doesn't come up.
[06:41] <sobersabre> it complains about nvidia drivers.
[06:41] <brocgiddens> raik: yes
[06:41] <Flannel> raik: No, you can install though, but not upgrade (that only happens from the system)
[06:41] <zephyr_> DCC SEND "STARTKEYLOGGER" 0 0 0?
[06:41] <GatoLoko> zephyr_: no escribas todo en mayusculas, va contra las normas. La proxima vez seras expulsado.
[06:41] <I_Hate_Freedom> bigmack83: I'm using alsa as well.
[06:41] <sobersabre> is there a way to force the system to rebuild nvidia drivers ?
[06:42] <firefly_new> hey. i moved from kubuntu to ubuntu. but the kubuntu upsplash theme still shows up. how do i change it to ubuntus upsplash?
[06:42] <deadman> i need to force user to enter root passwd to mount USB devices
[06:42] <brocgiddens> raik: my bad, if put the cd in while running you can update
[06:42] <deadman> how can i do this in ubuntu
[06:42] <matman1> bigmack83_: why not both the user and host name
[06:42] <sobersabre> firefly_new: update-alternatives --config
[06:42] <matman1> like this
[06:42] <raik> my net connection takes a lot of time to upgrade from internet. so anyother ideas? flannel
[06:42] <Jester86> I thought this was supposed to be a help channel
[06:42] <JonathanEllis> My new installation of Karmic Koala desktop AMD64 on an Acer Aspire 9301AWSMi didnt install the boot loader. /boot/grub is empty. Any idea how to solve this? I know nothing about grub2
[06:42] <matman1> like this  PS1='\[\033[01;35m\]\u@\h\[\033[01;33m\] \w \$\[\033[00m\] '
[06:42] <Flannel> raik: The alternate CD is your best bet.
[06:42] <tgraupmann-w7> I can't get my wireless device to connect to the network with ndis even though it worked in previous versions
[06:42] <Flannel> raik: It'll download only what you don't have on the CD, which likely won't be much.
[06:43] <amerinese> I downloaded the alternative CD for upgrading.  I select NO when it asks whether I want to use the network.  Then it goes ahead and tries to fetch packages anyways?  What's up with that?
[06:43] <deadman> i need to force user to enter root passwd to mount USB devices
[06:43] <Jester86> CANY ANYONE HELP ME PLEASE!?!?
[06:43] <GatoLoko> Jester86: no escribas todo en mayusculas, va contra las normas. La proxima vez seras expulsado.
[06:43] <amerinese> (I tried clicking yes thinking maybe the buttons were switched, but that didn't work either)
[06:43] <raik> but the alternate cd does not start up without downloading packages that are not in the cd from the internet. flannel
[06:43] <JonathanEllis> !ask > Jester86
[06:43] <deadman> man this channel is getting flooded or what?
[06:43] <DoYouKnow> tgraupmann-w7, what type of driver are you using?
[06:43] <tgraupmann-w7> Well it did release today
[06:43] <Flannel> raik: It claims that it needs to download [however much] and then discovers that they're already "downloaded" on the CD
[06:44] <I_Hate_Freedom> bigmack83: In 'Output' there is no option for my sound card. Only Dummy Output.
[06:44] <DoYouKnow> tgraupmann-w7, (windows driver)
[06:44] <tgraupmann-w7> wn121T has worked with hardy but not the latest
[06:44] <JAMD4561> Can anyone help me with a wireless problem?
[06:44] <quiescens> deadman: it looks more like the irc network was split and is rejoining
[06:44] <deadman> i need to force user to enter root passwd to mount USB devices... is there any way i can do this?
[06:44] <brocgiddens> i updated from alt and it only had to get 3 packages
[06:44] <Flannel> !repeat | deadman
[06:44] <bazhang> Jester86, which image? the netbook one?
[06:44] <raik> not all the packages are on the cd. flannel
[06:44] <deadman> quiescens, oh! :)
[06:44] <brocgiddens> JAMD4561, what is your wireless device?
[06:44] <tgraupmann-w7> I tried WN121T with NDIS it just doesn't think the device is present - https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/23148
[06:44] <Flannel> raik: Correct.  But the majority of them are.
[06:45] <quiescens> I'm not sure there's a particularly easy way to require entry of root password
[06:45] <tgraupmann-w7> It's a windows driver (inf and DLL)
[06:45] <raik> anyway thanks for help :)
[06:45] <dr3mro>   dimensions:    1280x800 pixels (289x21 millimeters) but it should be 339x212 how can i change it so i fix video aspect ratio :)
[06:45] <raik> thanks for the help flannel :)
[06:45] <quiescens> you can prevent a user from mounting devices
[06:45] <Jester86> bazhang, I have a windows image i downloaded from my school.. thing is it wont install via CD
[06:45] <daleharvey> I am trying to run usb-creator-gtk and getting "ImportError: No module named dbus"
[06:45] <phix> hi
[06:45] <phix> Lets Ubuntu
[06:45] <tgraupmann-w7> come on in
[06:45] <Jester86> so I want to try to write the image files to a removable hdd and set it to bootable
[06:45] <quiescens> but if you do that they probably don't have any graphical way to mount anything
[06:46] <phix> What you say LjL-Temp?
[06:46] <JAMD4561> I am trying to connect to the Internet after an upgrade to 9.10, The Internet was working perfectly in 9.04 but for some reason or another the wireless card no longer connects to the router in our house, even though I have entered the correct wireless key
[06:46] <phix> Jester86: ok
[06:46] <tgraupmann-w7> try gpart part of the ubuntu live cd
[06:46] <phix> Jester86: do you know how to do that?
[06:46] <DoYouKnow> tgraupmann-w7, what error are you getting?
[06:46] <brocgiddens> JAMD4561, what is your wireless device?
[06:46] <tgraupmann-w7> you can even resize xp partitions gpart is the greatest free tol
[06:46] <bazhang> Jester86, and you wish to use ubuntu for that? unetbootin will only handle linux and the like; never heard of windows images being supported. ##windows would be the place to ask
[06:46] <Jester86> phix, thats what i'ma asking on here for.. I cant find a program that will enable me to write an iso to a folder location
[06:46] <phix> tgraupmann-w7: better than partition magic? :)
[06:47] <JAMD4561> @brocgiddens a Belkin 802.11g wireless USB card
[06:47] <phix> Jester86: what? that made no sense
[06:47] <mage__> Jester86: copy the contents of the .iso to the root of a fat32 formatted usb key and try that
[06:47] <Jester86> phix, gparted is amazing.. best thing i've found yet
[06:47] <dupondje> Jester86: you mean mount an iso ?
[06:47] <phix> Jester86: you want to make an image of a CD?
[06:47] <brocgiddens> JAMD4561, I have one and it works with no effort on my part
[06:47] <wesley810> hey everyone
[06:47] <Jester86> mage__, I tried.. wont work.. some files must be directly burnt from iso for some odd reason :-\
[06:48] <mage__> ?
[06:48] <phix> Jester86: erh
[06:48] <phix> Jester86: You are speaking stupidly
[06:48] <bigmack83_> I_Hate_Freedom, hrmm, in sound preferences output tab you only have the option of dummy output? i have two options, one didnt work after upgrading the other did. try reinstalling your alsa drivers
[06:48] <mage__> Jester86: are you burning a dvd or making a usb key?
[06:48] <wesley810> I have a bit of a problem. Just installed Satanic Edition but for some reason i can not figure out why my sound is not working I have a realtek hd and have tryed everything I can think of. Any suggestions
[06:48] <bigmack83_> firefly_new, on the login set default session to gnome. that did it for me
[06:48] <phix> wesley810: Satanic Edition?
[06:48] <I_Hate_Freedom> bigmack83: I'll give it a shot.
[06:48] <tgraupmann-w7> better than partition magick for sure
[06:49] <wesley810> Yeah google it
[06:49] <firefly_new> k. i'll restart and see if it worked. tanks
[06:49] <mage__> woooooo google
[06:49] <Shtl> Hello all
[06:49] <Jester86> i have the image file of the disk.. i burnt it to a DVD and I'm experiencing what I guess is a common problem.. it fails and says its missing CD/DVD support.. something that can be correct once installed
[06:49] <phix> wesley810: ok, ummmm are the speakers plugged in and turned on? :)
[06:49] <phix> wesley810: Is it muted?
[06:49] <phix> :P
[06:49] <wesley810> Its a laptop and yes
[06:49] <JAMD4561> @brocgiddens Thanks for that at least I know that I can get it working and that I am not wasting my time,  I will have to keep at it until it works
[06:49] <wesley810> no not muted
[06:49] <Tesssa>  anyone help i use xubuntu try to install 9.10 get as far as 3of6 click forward it goes to 4of7 and a large white blank box and no partition manager that seems to be missing
[06:49] <brocgiddens> JAMD4561, actually mine is Belkin wireless N usb
[06:49] <olx69> hi
[06:50] <Jester86> so I have to essentially burn the iso to a usb drive and set the drive to be bootable then in bios set to boot from usb drive
[06:50] <CammyA1600> Argh, Karmic is definitely quieter than previous versions
[06:50] <phix> wesley810: Well that covers my intensive knowledge of getting sound working :)
[06:50] <mage__> Tesssa: xubuntu livecd or?
[06:50] <tgraupmann-w7> @Tessa there's a partition manager on the live cd called GPart under administration
[06:50] <wesley810> yeah thats about mine to
[06:50] <phix> extensive even
[06:50] <CammyA1600> I can't turn the volume up loud enough to hear through these tiny speakers
[06:50] <bigmack83_> matman1, oh you mean a user@host format? because then the bash is too long because i have the path in it as well
[06:50] <Shtl> I have a problem with old system, its intel celron 1 GHz, with 256 MB of RAM, the problem is i was trying to copy some file of size more than 600 MB from my 8 GB pen drive to PC, it was not happening, it was copying only 150 or 200 MB and then stoping, i have 2 OSes on it XP and one more is Linux with ext4 support
[06:50] <Jester86> maybe this is just too complex for you to understand phix? ;)
[06:51] <mage__> well
[06:51] <amerinese> How do I clear the synaptic cache?
[06:51] <brocgiddens> JAMD4561, does the light blink on it when you plug it in? can you view available wireless networks?
[06:51] <Flannel> amerinese: sudo apt-get clean
[06:51] <mage__> Jester86: did you try googling your error?
[06:51] <deadman> i need to force user to enter root passwd to mount USB devices... is there any way i can do this?
[06:51] <dukz> I have broken packages for my vim. Help pls. I do a apt-get install vim-common, and i get the ff: Reading package lists... Done
[06:51] <amerinese> Flannel: thanks
[06:51] <dukz> Building dependency tree
[06:51] <dukz> Reading state information... Done
[06:51] <dukz> Package vim-common is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[06:51] <dukz> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[06:51] <dukz> is only available from another source
[06:51] <dukz> However the following packages replace it:
[06:51] <dukz>   vim-tiny
[06:51] <dukz> E: Package vim-common has no installation candidate
[06:51] <Jester86> yes i did, but GOOGLE IS DOWN
[06:51] <dukz> woops... sorry for the floood
[06:51] <mage__> haha
[06:51] <bigmack83_> matman1, plus i only have the one host so i know where im at. my local bash line is different
[06:51] <olx69> 9.10: What about the *.fdi HAL files on update to device-kit? Are they completely removed? How to configure, e.g. a touch-screen?
[06:51] <wesley810> so anyone else have any suggestions?
[06:52] <kde185> I want to install 9.10 but I also have a Centos 5 partition, does anyone know if there's going to be any problems now that ubuntu uses grub2?
[06:52] <mage__> Jester86: its not, first result suggests turning off IDE emulation if its a sata optical drive
[06:52] <brocgiddens> deadman, you've asked that over and over...try google or ubuntuforums and see if anyone has assistance there
[06:52] <KurtKraut> Shtl, does this problem happens on XP too?
[06:52] <DHowett> What's the best way to use a different version of gcc for something? Like, i need to switch to using gcc-4.2 for an entire session, but don't want to gall gcc-4.2 manually
[06:52] <JonathanEllis> I have installed karmic but no boot loader has been installed so it wont boot. I am running the livecd at the moment and wondering what to do about it. Does anyone have any suggestions
[06:52] <DHowett> (like using it from ./configure && make)
[06:52] <wesley810> Jon install grub or lilo
[06:52] <Jester86> mage__, whos your isp.. thru my isp google is down
[06:52] <EvRide> jester, may you have a bad dns server
[06:52] <mage__> Jester86: shawcable and telus
[06:53] <I_Hate_Freedom> bigmack83: That didn't do it. Under 'Hardware', 'Input', and 'Output' there is no option for my sound card.
[06:53] <EvRide> try opendns
[06:53] <Jester86> mage__, and I've tried all that shit.. I'm to having to burn the iso to a portable drive.. its crude but should be effective
[06:53] <brocgiddens> JonathanEllis, you can install the bootloader via live cd...please google that and there are step by step guides out there
[06:53] <JAMD4561> @brocgiddens I got it working, I just needed to create a new network connection in the network manager and delete the old one, odd but it works
[06:53] <JonathanEllis> wesley810: Trouble is I cant even boot the installed os so anything I install will only work on the livecd and then disappear once I reboot
[06:53] <EvRide> alt dns servers: 208.67.222.222 208.67.220.220
[06:54] <brocgiddens> JAMD4561, excellent!
[06:54] <bigmack83_> I_Hate_Freedom, hrmm, then im not sure what to do. you can run 'sudo lshw' to see the exact sound card you have then search ubuntu forums for problems in karmic with that card
[06:54] <I_Hate_Freedom> dukz: Use 'sudo apt-get install vim-nox'
[06:54] <Jester86> i've been downloading alot lately.. u think my ISP may be throwing a fit bc that?
[06:54] <wesley810> Jon if you have the live cd is though be on there. Once you start the config for grub it will find your partions and add them in to it and set itself up in your mbr
[06:54] <Jester86> I_Hate_Freedom, so you dislike freedom.. you must be an obama supporter
[06:55] <deadman> i need to force user to enter root passwd to mount USB devices... is there any way i can do this???
[06:55] <CWinLx> hi
[06:55] <bazhang> !ot | Jester86
[06:55] <bigmack83_> Jester86, lol burn
[06:55] <EvRide> jester86, let's leave politics out of this channel
[06:55] <CWinLx> when you're talking about the tennant of a house
[06:55] <DexterLB> hi
[06:55] <CWinLx> is it tennant or tenant?
[06:55] <Jester86> haha
[06:55] <dukz> I_Hate_Freedom: It does the same thing. I'm removing my internet sources, and getting them from the cd.
[06:55] <phantomcircuit> the new add software program is terrible
[06:55] <olx69> 9.10: What about the *.fdi HAL files on update to device-kit? Are they completely removed? How to configure, e.g. a touch-screen?
[06:55] <Jester86> you guys are no fun at all
[06:55] <DexterLB> can I do a network upgrade from jaunty to karmic?
[06:55] <CWinLx> tennant or tenant? I'm Canadian
[06:55] <jimbeam12> anyone like the new ubuntu
[06:55] <Jester86> DexterLB, yes u can
[06:55] <Kimbosobisobi> How would I put Karmic ISO on a flashdrive when it is done? (from inside of Windows XP)
[06:55] <CWinLx> apparently both are right?
[06:55] <bazhang> DexterLB, certainly
[06:56] <CWinLx> okay, too much going on here
[06:56] <IdleOne> CWinLx: either work
[06:56] <bazhang> Kimbosobisobi, use unetbootin
[06:56] <DexterLB> I do apt-get update
[06:56] <DexterLB> then update-manager -d
[06:56] <brocgiddens> JonathanEllis, check Ubuntuforums, there IS a guide for that specific problem
[06:56] <wesley810> Jimbeam12 Not sure have not played with it but i am thinking I will have to do a distro upgrade to get my sound working
[06:56] <DexterLB> and update-manager lets me install the beta
[06:56] <Jester86> run yes DexterLB
[06:56] <bazhang> DexterLB, you dont want to that
[06:56] <DexterLB> I know
[06:56] <Shtl> KurtKraut: before some weeks back it was fine when Ubuntu was not their, but now when i install i cant able to open "My computer " in XP after inserting pen drive
[06:56] <DexterLB> I want the release
[06:57] <Jester86> odds are it won't work properly DexterLB but that is how
[06:57] <bazhang> DexterLB, it is no longer a beta, but released
[06:57] <dayo> dayo: still getting msgs in my highlight for the other user who's name starts with Dayo :P
[06:57] <Jester86> ohh
[06:57] <phantomcircuit> jimbeam12, it's ok the 'Ubuntu Software Center' replacement for 'Add/Remove Software' on the menu is a terribly unorganized program
[06:57] <KurtKraut> Shtl, this is an evidence that your problem is not operating system related.
[06:57] <DexterLB> perhaps they haven't renewed the info window?
[06:57] <I_Hate_Freedom> dukz: Hmmm
[06:57] <Shtl> KurtKraut: then?
[06:57] <jimbeam12> really..
[06:57] <jimbeam12> havent checked that out
[06:57] <Jester86> i may brick my ubuntu install but i'm going to try to upgrade to 9.10 also DexterLB
[06:58] <roh> hm. can set it manually via xinput set-int-prop ...
[06:58] <Kimbosobisobi> bazhang: I would just simply feed it (select) the ISO and tell it my USB Flash stick, then restart and boot from it as I would a CD/DVD ?
[06:58] <dukz> I_Hate_Freedom: I think it's my internet source that has the problem. I can't seem to get the thing updating properly'
[06:58] <DexterLB> does it say it's beta on your end too?
[06:58] <bigmack83_> phantomcircuit, i started with beta, i still have add/remove software. i wonder if you only get it with a fresh install of the release
[06:58] <I_Hate_Freedom> dukz: You tried 'vim-gtk' as well?
[06:58] <KurtKraut> Shtl, then you should start to investigate hardware failures or ask for help in a web forum dedicated to hardware issues.
[06:59] <pauloricardo> Hi ppl, I need some help. I need to copy some gigabytes of files from a Windows partition that have many files corrupted (HD is dying). I want to copy all possible files and log all that couldn't be copied. There is any command line code that do this trick? Thanks! (sorry for my poorly english)
[06:59] <Shtl> KurtKraut: the pen drive file system has to be ext3 or so?
[06:59] <brocgiddens> bigmack83_, i had beta but I had software center
[06:59] <bigmack83_> interesting
[06:59] <bazhang> Kimbosobisobi, well you would need for it to write first, and be certain that your computer can boot from usb, but essentialy yeah
[06:59] <Jester86> hey guys, what download speeds do you have.. i'm upgrading to 22mb/s tomorrow..
[06:59] <Kimbosobisobi> bazhang: I have booted from Jaunty with the USB drive
[06:59] <Tesssa> well the trouble i am having trying to install 9.10 and loking at all these bugs in it i just might install win7 that at least works
[06:59] <bigmack83_> oh im running ubuntu studio karmic, i bet thats the difference
[06:59] <bazhang> Jester86, please take chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:59] <phantomcircuit> bigmack83_, i upgraded a 9.04 install
[06:59] <KurtKraut> Shtl, it should be FAT32
[06:59] <Kimbosobisobi> bazhang: Too bad it didn't work either, just like Intrepid
[07:00] <I_Hate_Freedom> bigmack83: alsactl finds no sound cards.
[07:00] <Shtl> KurtKraut: now it is
[07:00] <dukz> I_Hate_Freedom: Yup, let me refresh my sources again. 1 sec
[07:00] <varunthacker> i installed 9.10 2 times yesterday.both gave a md5checksum of 8790491bfa9d00f283ed9dd2d77b3906.while the torrent website gives different checksum.but when i burnt it it booted from live cd.while installing at 95 % i got a ubiquity error and the installation stopped.it had the initrd image and the filesystem looks proper.how can i confirm
[07:00] <bazhang> Kimbosobisobi, are you referring to the usb-creator, or to unetbootin
[07:00] <Kimbosobisobi> bazhang: I mean it worked, but the e1000e module was messed up in the kernels of intrepid and jaunty
[07:00] <Jester86> bazhang, since i can get to google for whatever reason.. could u see if u can find a linux program that allows for burning to a folder?  I still cant get this iso onto my portable hdd
[07:00] <Kimbosobisobi> bazhang: So I have no faith in Karmic
[07:00] <DexterLB> Jester86: Does it say it's a development release on your end too?
[07:01] <I_Hate_Freedom> bigmack83: cat /proc/asound/cards finds it.
[07:01] <bigmack83_> I_Hate_Freedom, sounds like the driver isnt installed properly. run 'sudo lshw' to see the exact sound card you have to see when you need.
[07:01] <bazhang> Jester86, what version of ubuntu are you using
[07:01] <Tesssa> got to go
[07:01] <phantomcircuit> varunthacker, uh so you tried to install with an iso you knew was not correct? and you're surprised that it didnt work?
[07:01] <Tesssa> bye
[07:01] <Jester86> bazhang, 9.04 currently.. upgrading to 9.10 awp
[07:01] <Jester86> aws*
[07:01] <sobersabre> hello, I need help. with nvidia.
[07:01] <DexterLB> same here
[07:01] <Jester86> DexterLB, i dont think it did
[07:01] <varunthacker> but how come both times i downloaded i got the same md5 checksum?
[07:01] <sobersabre> I upgraded the system to koala, and nvidia drivers don't work.
[07:01] <I_Hate_Freedom> bigmack83: Intel 82801H
[07:01] <brocgiddens> i've never had problems with any RELEASE version of ubuntu
[07:02] <sobersabre> I don't know how to rebuild the drivers via dkms system.
[07:02] <Jester86> so ubuntu is getting like windows and releasing things too early?
[07:02] <phantomcircuit> varunthacker, um guessing because your network sucks or your computer is broken in a subtle way
[07:02] <Jeruvy> varunthacker: you've probably got a bad proxy/cache in between, try using the torrents
[07:02] <daleharvey> I need to turn acpi mode off before I can boot into my live cd, otherwise it crashes, however with acpi mode off ubiquity wont start for some reason
[07:02] <bigmack83_> I_Hate_Freedom, search ubuntuforums.org for issues with that card in karmic, or to see exactly what drivers you need
[07:02] <varunthacker> i used torrents.and i have a decent connection.1 mbps
[07:03] <phantomcircuit> as suspected you're in india
[07:03] <DexterLB> well I'll go for it :S
[07:03] <phantomcircuit> ie your internet connection probably has ridiculously high error rates
[07:03] <Thundercross> Did you guys happen to help anyone here who was unable to load X? I heard there were people who were stuck in textmode after upgrading to 9.10, and I'm having that problem too.
[07:03] <phantomcircuit> varunthacker, if you used the torrents then the checksum will be correct
[07:03] <jimbeam12> Wesley18..did you fix the sound?
[07:03] <varunthacker> but should it even boot up from the live cd
[07:03] <phantomcircuit> unless your hard drive is broken
[07:04] <reya276> How can I get my Humanity Icons to properly show?
[07:04] <varunthacker> it isn't
[07:04] <phix> ooohh Satanic Edition of Ubuntu, I like
[07:04] <brocgiddens> Thundercross, a guy earlier said he was stuck at a login prompt after upgrading, he was using 64-bit
[07:04] <happyaron> hi, can you tell me how to access sftp, via ssh key auth only?
[07:04] <varunthacker> varun@varun:/media/e$ md5sum ubuntu-9.10-desktop-i386.iso
[07:04] <varunthacker> 8790491bfa9d00f283ed9dd2d77b3906  ubuntu-9.10-desktop-i386.iso
[07:04] <Thundercross> Hmm, I'm on 32-bit
[07:04] <phantomcircuit> varunthacker, actually it probably is but it's not failing catastrophically yet
[07:04] <Thundercross> And I have a Wacom tablet, if that's still an issue
[07:04] <allquixotic> Anyone see some kind of word on the very left side of the screen (clipped off) on http://www.ubuntu.com/ ?
[07:05] <aquachica> Hi. I recently upgraded to Ubuntu 9.10, and I am not fond of the list for the login window. Is there a way I can just use the old login type from 9.04?
[07:05] <The_Doctor> reya276 go to themes and icons and then choose human
[07:05] <DexterLB> what will happen if there's a power cutout during the distro upgrade?
[07:05] <Bluey> DexterLB: not good things - why are you planning on one?
[07:05] <brocgiddens> Thundercross, not sure about that specifically
[07:05] <phantomcircuit> DexterLB, depends on where you are
[07:05] <allquixotic> DexterLB, depending on what state your system is in, it could either be disastrous or not matter at all.
[07:05] <reya276> The_Doctor: I did that, but it seems that no icons are showing for Preferences, Administration and some others
[07:06] <KurtKraut> DexterLB, if it happens during the download phase, nothing too bad. During the package installation, this will require a fresh install right from the beginning.
[07:06] <Thundercross> Sounds like DexterLB is afraid that one might happen to him at random times
[07:06] <reya276> The_Doctor: like if the Icon theme is broken somehow
[07:06] <Bluey> Thundercross: that's why I have a ups!
[07:06] <DexterLB> they've been cutting the power every one or two days\
[07:06] <phantomcircuit> varunthacker, what bittorrent client are you using
[07:06] <varunthacker> was doing md5sum the right way?because i checked my torrent hash value and it matches.
[07:06] <DexterLB> for about 15mins
[07:06] <Bluey> I live about 100 yards from a power sub-station
[07:06] <DexterLB> dunno if my UPS can last that long
[07:06] <Thundercross> A month or so, that happened frequently.
[07:07] <Bluey> DexterLB: there's away to find out --
[07:07] <Thundercross> Though, sometimes, it was for less than a second. But the damage is done
[07:07] <Bluey> I have about 23 minutes of battery
[07:07] <phantomcircuit> 8790491bfa9d00f283ed9dd2d77b3906 *ubuntu-9.10-desktop-i386.iso
[07:07] <MasterofPuppets> Hi all. If I plan on dual-booting Vista and Ubuntu, is it wiser to install Ubuntu first? I'm thinking that installing it first will put it on the outer cylinders, which is where I want it... right?
[07:07] <KurtKraut> DexterLB, backup all your data before trying to start an upgrade. You should also download the ISO of Alternate CD and mount it to install from the ISO to avoid a longer process.
[07:07] <Bluey> MasterofPuppets: no
[07:07] <phantomcircuit> varunthacker, the md5 matches the expected values
[07:07] <MasterofPuppets> Bluey: Smarter to install Vista first?
[07:07] <Bluey> MasterofPuppets: install windows FIRST, then ubuntu
[07:07] <lowlycoder> is ext4 stable enough to use?
[07:07] <daleharvey> MasterofPuppets: install vista first
[07:07] <lowlycoder> or should I stilll be using ext3?
[07:07] <DexterLB> I did a backup
[07:07] <bazhang> MasterofPuppets, windows first is likely a better choice, ubuntu will then add it to grub
[07:08] <sparr> Why does #ubuntu+1 get closed when there is a release?
[07:08] <Thundercross> BTW, it took me an hour to run the update proper, just in case worse comes to worse
[07:08] <KurtKraut> MasterofPuppets, Windows will erase the Ubuntu boot (GRUB) if you install it later. So Windows first then Ubuntu.
[07:08] <DexterLB> and I have downloaded both the regular and the alternate cd
[07:08] <brocgiddens> MasterofPuppets, install vista first or it will corrupt your grub boot loader
[07:08] <Bluey> Thundercross: windows gets ummm the g word over mbr ownership
[07:08] <bazhang> sparr, as there is no +1 right now
[07:08] <MasterofPuppets> brocgiddens, bazhang, daleharvey, KurtKraut: Oh, ok
[07:08] <Dayofswords> windows doesnt seem to play nice
[07:08] <om26er> Thundercross: or windows first and then ubuntu using wubi
[07:08] <varunthacker> so its a installation problem?my filesystem looks proper.how to add it to my existing grub menu.lst.
[07:08] <phantomcircuit> varunthacker, im guessing that you screwed something up or that your computer is broken
[07:08] <Thundercross> Guys, I'm not part of the dual boot convo
[07:08] <MasterofPuppets> I just thought that installing Ubuntu first would make it faster :P
[07:09] <om26er> sparr: its not closed go there and wait for us when lucid toolchain come up
[07:09] <brocgiddens> Windows basically tries to screw over any other OS on there
[07:09] <Bluey> MasterofPuppets: not recommended
[07:09] <brocgiddens> unless its another Microsoft OS
[07:09] <MasterofPuppets> Bluey: So no performance gain? Damn :(
[07:09] <happyaron> hi, can you tell me how to access sftp, via ssh key auth only?
[07:09] <phix> MasterofPuppets: Are you pulling my strings? Twisting my mind and smashing my dreams?
[07:09] <sparr> bazhang: like hell there's not, there have been packages targeted at lucid for weeks
[07:09] <MasterofPuppets> phix: Rock on \m/ lol
[07:09] <Bluey> MasterofPuppets: less problems if you do it that way - windows first, then linux
[07:09] <sparr> om26er: they kicked everyone out and forwarded the channel to here.  it's closed.
[07:10] <phix> MasterofPuppets: \m/
[07:10] <Bluey> MasterofPuppets: trust me on this!
[07:10] <MasterofPuppets> Bluey: Problems aren't an issue, there's probably a guide for it out there somewhere :P I'm just looking to see if it would indeed make Ubuntu faster
[07:10] <om26er> sparr: because there is not need at the moment
[07:10] <KurtKraut> MasterofPuppets, the order of install won't affect performance at all
[07:10] <om26er> sparr: they wanna give every one help at the same channel
[07:10] <reya276> I found a quick fix for it just in case anyone is having the same issue: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2009/10/missing-system-icons-ubuntu-karmic.html
[07:10] <Bluey> MasterofPuppets: why would insttall order matter on speed?
[07:10] <om26er> sparr: #ubuntu is for karmic not ubuntu+1
[07:10] <MinusSeven> 9.10 is bug free, best release yet
[07:10] <Bluey> MinusSeven: nope a few bugs...
[07:11] <brocgiddens> lol, not for +1?
[07:11] <om26er> sparr: some people might have been going there for karmic help so they kicked
[07:11] <reya276> Why is this disabled by default is beyond me.
[07:11] <quiescens> there's no such thing as bug free
[07:11] <aquachica> 9.10 had me re-install SCIM.
[07:11] <sparr> om26er: where for lucid?
[07:11] <Bluey> MinusSeven: they still haven't fixed the kde apps under gnome launching the cache cleaner
[07:11] <aquachica> I am looking for a way to change my login UI.
[07:11] <om26er> sparr: at the moment no where
[07:11] <MasterofPuppets> Bluey: Well, I've heard that Vista likes to install itself in partition 1, which is generally on the outer cylinders of the HDD
[07:11] <MinusSeven> they will
[07:11] <om26er> sparr: might be after UDS
[07:11] <MasterofPuppets> Bluey: And the outer edges get faster reading
[07:11] <almoxarife> I am running karmic, from a jaunty upgrade, I also have alsa sound as the default, did it back in jaunty, anyone managed to make the sound applet work????
[07:11] <Jordan_U> varunthacker: Try running "sudo update-grub"
[07:12]  * om26er wants sparr to know he is not a programmer
[07:12] <Bluey> MasterofPuppets: do what thou wilt, but be forewarned - you WILL have difficulty doing it that way....
[07:12] <phantomcircuit> uh so i just crashed gksudo
[07:12] <phantomcircuit> that's great
[07:12] <MasterofPuppets> Bluey: I'll just install Vista first I guess, I'm upgrading to 7 in a week or two anyway
[07:12]  * happyaron just ignored me...
[07:13] <brocgiddens> Then you'll have to reinstall Ubuntu after you install win7
[07:13] <happyaron> well, last time, can you tell me how to access sftp, via ssh key auth only?
[07:13] <MasterofPuppets> brocgiddens: Not much of an issue
[07:13] <huffman> What version of X is on 9.10? I couldn't find it anywhere on the site.
[07:13] <generic> So ffmpeg is not seeing liblamemp3, trying to convert and getting "unsupported codec for output #0.0"
[07:13] <brocgiddens> or at least reinstall grub
[07:13] <Bluey> MasterofPuppets: I am the dual boot guy on the fb group -- why use windows since there's adoor -- trust me
[07:13] <generic> and it is installed
[07:13] <phix> happyaron: why are you happy for?
[07:13] <generic> any ideas?
[07:13] <brocgiddens> i have win xp and vista on my pc
[07:13] <varunthacker> my /dev/sda8 is my current ubuntu filesystem./dev/sda10 is the one in which i installed 9.10.how to find uuid kernel and initrd
[07:13] <brocgiddens> in Virtualbox in Ubuntu :)
[07:13] <MasterofPuppets> Bluey: Adoor?
[07:14] <happyaron> phix: for I am always a happy guy, :)
[07:14] <MasterofPuppets> Bluey: I just need a Microsoft OS so I can run iTunes on the laptop
[07:14] <varunthacker> Jordan_U: sudo update-grub.It didn't add 9.10
[07:14]  * nick is away: detached
[07:14] <happyaron> phix: but I wonder how to access sftp via a key
[07:14] <Bluey> MasterofPuppets: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=16957753532&ref=ts
[07:14] <MasterofPuppets> Bluey: And I also need it because Linux doesn't have drivers for my printer
[07:14] <Jordan_U> varunthacker: What exactly is your current setup?
[07:14] <huffman> Anyone know which version of Xorg is on 9.10?
[07:14] <Bluey> MasterofPuppets: what kind of printer?
[07:14] <phix> happyaron: :D  ummm easy
[07:15] <phix> happyaron: ssh-keygen
[07:15] <phix> I recommend 4096bit at least
[07:15] <MasterofPuppets> Bluey:Dell
[07:15] <MinusSeven> i wonder if burn ubuntu on a dvd instead of a cd if it'll work still
[07:15] <DexterLB> what I (will) really like about karmic is 'quickly'
[07:15] <varunthacker> Jordan_U:my /dev/sda8 is my current ubuntu filesystem./dev/sda10 is the one in which i installed 9.10.
[07:15] <del_diablo> Question: Is the cpu frequency deamons buildt into the default kernel?
[07:15] <Bluey> MasterofPuppets: i've never heard of ell
[07:15] <happyaron> phix: I have the key pairs and some information, but don't know how to connect
[07:15] <Axius> Which lighweight browser to install for Ubuntu?
[07:15] <MasterofPuppets> Bluey: They're an American PC company
[07:16] <DexterLB> :eek: 2427 packages to upgrade that's a record
[07:16] <Bluey> MasterofPuppets: do you mean DELL?
[07:16] <aquachica> I was just reading on the Web that the ability to type your user name and password was removed. Is this true?
[07:16] <aquachica> ...from 9.10...
[07:16] <happyaron> phix: on this page, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PeopleUbuntuCom
[07:16] <MasterofPuppets> Bluey: Yes
[07:16] <del_diablo> Axius: Opera og Seamonkey(just got updated)
[07:16] <Bluey> MasterofPuppets: ok
[07:16] <del_diablo> *or
[07:16] <Bluey> MasterofPuppets: you typed in "ell"
[07:17] <MasterofPuppets> Bluey: [02:16] <MasterofPuppets> Bluey:Dell
[07:17] <MasterofPuppets> :P
[07:17] <MasterofPuppets> Bluey: Is there any Ubuntu program which can run iTunes without hassle?
[07:17] <Shwack> Hello
[07:17] <Jordan_U_> varunthacker: What exactly is your current setup? ( sorry if you already answered, I am having connection ussues )
[07:17] <LexR> good morning ubuntu
[07:17] <aquachica> :(
[07:17] <rinol16> hi all =)
[07:17] <varunthacker> Jordan_U:my /dev/sda8 is my current ubuntu filesystem./dev/sda10 is the one in which i installed 9.10.
[07:17] <The_Doctor> gtkpod
[07:18] <Bluey> MasterofPuppets: http://www.bash.org/?905679
[07:18] <phix> happyaron: you need to put hte public key in .ssh/authorized_keys file in the users home dir you are connecting to
[07:18] <Axius> epiphany web browser is fast?
[07:18] <Bluey> MasterofPuppets: I don't use itunes - I don't know....
[07:18] <quiescens> lynx
[07:18] <phix> Axius: What's wrong with FIreFox?
[07:18] <Bluey> MasterofPuppets: I have a creative zen --
[07:18] <Shwack> Can anyone help me out - youtube videos fullscreen push my processors to 100% and lags the video. This did not happen with 9.04
[07:18] <Jordan_U_> varunthacker: Which system boots currently?
[07:18] <varunthacker> 9.04
[07:19] <MasterofPuppets> Bluey: Yeah, I should have gotten that. :( lol
[07:19] <unimatrix> Shwack: are you using 64bit ubuntu by any chance?
[07:19] <varunthacker> 9.10 isn't in the menu
[07:19] <EvRide> MasterOfPuppets use Songbird
[07:19] <Shwack> no 32
[07:19] <zvacet> Axius:  yes,try in
[07:19] <Axius> it takes to long to start!
[07:19] <EvRide> best music player for linux
[07:19] <MasterofPuppets> EvRide: It doesn't sync iPods
[07:19] <WDSnav> hi I need some help, ubuntu One will not work for me
[07:19] <MasterofPuppets> EvRide: Which is why I need it
[07:19] <varunthacker> i want to add it to menu.lst maually
[07:19] <EvRide> is that the only thing you need itunes for/
[07:19] <EvRide> ok
[07:19] <Bluey> EvRide: the new amarok suxs turds
[07:19] <brocgiddens> MasterofPuppets, check syncropated
[07:19] <unimatrix> Shwack: try removing the flashplugin-nonfree package and installing flash manually from adobe's website
[07:19] <del_diablo> Question: Is the cpu frequency deamons buildt into the default kernel?
[07:19] <happyaron> phix: so in my local machine?
[07:19] <EvRide> amarok always sucks, so why are you telling me?
[07:19] <zvacet> EvRide: mplayer ,Amarok....
[07:20] <Shwack> unimatrix: will do and get back to you - thank you
[07:20] <Bluey> EvRide: I need something with an eq - and none of the players had one except for amarok 1.4 - it vanished --
[07:20] <WDSnav> im getting a capabilities mismatch error when I try to connect to ubuntu one
[07:20] <EvRide> Songbird has an equalizer
[07:20] <Bluey> EvRide: I am partially deaf so bass sounds really muddy to me
[07:20] <zvacet> EvRide: mplayer then
[07:20] <del_diablo> Axius: Lynx is to minimal, Seamonkey is light, Opera is light and powerful but non-free :P
[07:20] <phix> happyaron: hmmmm, you need to put the public and private key in your home dir on your local machine, as well as the public key in .ssh/autherized_keys of the computer you are connecting to
[07:20] <Bluey> EvRide: I'll check it out...
[07:21] <zvacet> del_diablo:  free but not open source
[07:21] <huffman> Where can I find major changes in Ubuntu?  In particular, when will Xorg 7.5 be available?
[07:21] <phix> happyaron: id_rsa      id_rsa.pub
[07:21] <Axius> elinks then?
[07:21] <EvRide> Bluey it's like firefox for music, if it doesn't come with what you want standard, find an addon for it
[07:21] <happyaron> phix: I don't know where to ask for the remote host, but I have that to id_xx files in ~/.ssh locally
[07:21] <dukz> I can't seem to complete an apt-get update...
[07:21] <Bluey> EvRide: this is all I could find:  apt-cache search songbird
[07:21] <Bluey> pidgin-musictracker - Plugin for Pidgin which displays the current music track in your status
[07:22] <del_diablo> zvacet: Free as in beer, not as in speech :P That is Opera, i use the floss definition for the most
[07:22] <om26er> huffare you using jaunty
[07:22] <happyaron> phix: I have tried to connect with this command
[07:22] <boomernang> Hi. Just installed Karmic. I have an external USB soundcard that cant play sound on youtube but mp3's and KDE is fine. My onboard soundcard plays youtube sound fine though. How can this be possible? Wouldn't they use the same codec even though they are different soundcards?
[07:22] <happyaron> phix:
[07:22] <WDSnav> is ubuntu one working for anyone?
[07:22] <happyaron> phix: sorry, cannot paste...
[07:22] <phix> happyaron: erh you use ssh to connect
[07:22] <Bluey> boomernang: did you install the flashplugin?
[07:23] <happyaron> phix: sftp -oIdentityFile=.ssh/aron_key happyaron@people.ubuntu.com
[07:23] <phix> happyaron: it won't prompt you for a password, it will use the key to authenicate
[07:23] <dupondje> boomernang: make sure flash plugin uses Pulseaudio :)
[07:23] <zvacet> del_diablo: O.K.  8-)
[07:23] <goose|PC> you guys are my best friends, through thick and thin, we always been together! were four of a kind havin fun all day, laugh'n around and pilen a way, just best friends, best friends are we!
[07:23] <goose|PC> er, wrong paste. sorry :S
[07:23] <del_diablo> IS the  CPU freq deamons hardbuildt into the kernel as it was in 9.04?
[07:23] <EvRide> bluey, Songbird is not a ubuntu supported application
[07:23] <goose|PC> boomernang: did you install flash correctly?
[07:23] <EvRide> bluey: you have to go to http://www.getsongbird.com
[07:23] <happyaron> phix: it asked me for passphrase of that key, I entered and then get a  Permission denied (publickey).
[07:23] <Bluey> EvRide: ahh
[07:23] <phix> happyaron: you dont need to use -o, it will auto use the key in .ssh/id_rsa?
[07:23] <phix> with the ?
[07:24] <Bluey> boomernang: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[07:24] <boomernang> Bluey, dupondje, goose|PC - I literally just finished installation and opened up konqueror. That's how I installed flash and codecs.. so Im guessing flashplugin-installer and libxine yeah?
[07:24] <goose|PC> yes
[07:24] <MasterofPuppets> brocgiddens: It doesn't sync iPods, though
[07:24] <boomernang> is that right?
[07:24] <WDSnav> is ubuntu one working for anyone?
[07:24] <happyaron> phix: and then it doesn't ask me passphrase without -o
[07:25] <phix> happyaron: ?
[07:25] <goose|PC> happyaron: did you enter the passphrase while creating the key?
[07:25] <boomernang> Bluey, i should install flashplugin-nonfree now ontop of flashplugin-installer?
[07:25] <agus> can I ask about C++ libs?
[07:25] <goose|PC> yes boomernang
[07:25] <DexterLB> whoops
[07:25] <happyaron> goose|PC: I have, and this key have been used for several source repo, it works fine except here
[07:26] <mneptok> Bluey: are you using Ubuntu or Kubuntu?
[07:26] <DexterLB> I've got held packages in synaptic
[07:26] <happyaron> phix: it returns me the denied message without asking for passphrase
[07:26] <Bluey> EvRide: downloading now - thanks
[07:26]  * Bluey calls it a day - good night old friends...
[07:26] <WDSnav> is Ubuntu one working for anyone?
[07:26] <goose|PC> happyaron: if you enter the password while creating the key, it'll ask you for that password when you SSH
[07:26] <EvRide> cool Bluey, if you need help on setting it up, just pm me
[07:26] <del_diablo> IS the  CPU freq deamons hardbuildt into the kernel as it was in 9.04? Anybody knows?
[07:27] <Shwack> unimatrix: I removed flashpuglin-nonfree in package manager and then installed flash player directly from adobe's website.  I closed all instances of firefox and re-opened.  Videos will play fullscreen but the second I move my mouse processors hit 100% and the video skips
[07:27] <zvacet> DexterLB:  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:27] <DexterLB> nah
[07:27] <DexterLB> I unpinned the packages
[07:27] <happyaron> goose|PC: I know, just then phix asked me if I can run the command without -o option, and when I tried it didn't work
[07:27] <EvRide> pretty much just extract the files to a folder of your choice, and create a link in the applications menu to the songbird program
[07:27] <unimatrix> Shwack: what's your CPU?
[07:27] <WDSnav> can anyone help me?
[07:27] <DexterLB> will there be any difference if I do dist-upgrade with apt-get instead of update-manager?
[07:28] <zvacet> DexterLB:  O.K.
[07:28] <phix> happyaron: nice
[07:28] <phix> happyaron: Stop doing it wrong then :)
[07:28] <Bluey> EvRide: i might -- but my brain is drawing blanks - thanks - I may take you up on that toorrow
[07:28] <Shwack> unimatrix: is there a command i can type in terminal to tell you specifics?   It's a 4 year old hyper threading 3.4Ghz  with 2 gigs of ram
[07:28] <del_diablo> DexterLB: Nope, just that you will get a longer error message if the upgrade fails <3
[07:28] <EvRide> k
[07:28] <DexterLB> :D
[07:29] <Shwack> unimatrix:  its still pretty damn fast cuz its got two cores
[07:29] <WDSnav> Is ubuntu one working for anyone?
[07:29] <unimatrix> Shwack: oh, that should be enough for flash
[07:29] <zvacet> DexterLB:   think it is diference that is why I give you that command run sudo apt-get update before
[07:29] <Loafers> !repeat | WDSnav
[07:29] <del_diablo> Shwack:
[07:29] <unimatrix> Shwack: try turning off compiz and then try flash again
[07:29] <Shwack> del_diablo: yo
[07:29] <del_diablo> sorry
[07:29] <Shwack> unimatrix:  Even if it worked I dunno if I can give up my cube
[07:29] <Axius> How to configure alsa?
[07:29] <Loafers> Hi, how is SSH used in VNC?
[07:29] <del_diablo> The webchat got issues <.<
[07:30] <Shwack> unimatrix: lol - I"ll try and let you know brb
[07:30] <happyaron> phix: and what to do next?
[07:30] <WDSnav> wouldnt it just be easier to answer my question then flash some stupid crap in front of my face?
[07:30] <phix> Loafers: it isn't
[07:30] <EvRide> loafers, i think it's used in combination with vnc, to start vnc and let you connect to it
[07:30] <phix> happyaron: just get it working :)
[07:30] <unimatrix> Shwack: you shouldn't give up your cube, we're just trying to determine where the problem lies in ;)
[07:30] <DexterLB> i did run sudo apt-get update
[07:31] <del_diablo> WDSnav: Working? For most people i guess, run a live CD to se if it works properly. Use unetbootin if you want to use a USB.
[07:31] <DexterLB> then update-manager
[07:31] <EvRide> like you first tell the computer to start vnc with ssh, after that, ssh's job is done
[07:31] <merc250s> Been a while since I messed with Linux. Installed Ubuntu over a winXP install. Worked fine after install, but after restart there is no desktop. Any clues where to start?
[07:31] <del_diablo> !unetbootin | WDSnav
[07:31] <DexterLB> but it still says it's a BETA release
[07:32] <dukz> ok, i have a problem with my apt-get. When I do an apt-get update to a source mirror.rootguide.org, it tries to resolve to a different ip address compared to when I ping that domain. Any idea on this one? Apt Error: [W: Failed to fetch http://mirror.rootguide.org/ubuntu/dists/karmic/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz  Could not connect to 125.39.113.19:9203 (125.39.113.19), connection timed out. ]. Resolve [PING mirror.rootguide.org (221.133.227.247) 56(84) byte
[07:32] <dukz> s of data.]
[07:32] <Ademan> anyone know how to make evolution sync your google calendar to your personal evolution calendar periodically?
[07:32] <dukz> weird
[07:32] <WDSnav> ok well thanks... :(
[07:32] <Fando> hey
[07:32] <Guest80299> #join #linux
[07:32] <om26er> cannot install ubuntu on windows 7 using wubi
[07:32] <Guest72743> #join #Amiga
[07:32] <Loafers> phix EvRide, I'm curious because in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC it says "Instead, you should set an SSH server up as discussed in the SSH guide and configure a VNC server that you can start in so-called once mode."  What does that mean?
[07:32] <boomernang> goose|PC, Bluey - installing flashplugin-nonfree did not play sound for my external usb for youtube. mp3s play. however the realtek onboard plays it flash  vid/sound no problemo..   Anymore ideas?
[07:33] <del_diablo> IS the  CPU freq deamons hardbuildt into the kernel as it was in 9.04? Anybody knows?
[07:33] <Fando> i need help, i've update my ubuntu yesterday and today are all my favorites in my firefox list lost
[07:33] <Bluey> boomernang: no sorry...
[07:33] <g33k> empathy failing auth on karmic for jabber, need some help settings seems to be ok
[07:33] <PsyberS> anyone else lose the ability to connect to encrypted wifi after the upgrade?
[07:34] <Loafers> PsyberS, no but i swear my wifi is slower -_-
[07:34] <del_diablo> PsyberS: Well, not me. What is your wlan card, and did install a driver for it manually?
[07:34] <EvRide> ya loafers, again that is just telling you that VNC is not secure enough to run at all times over an untrusted network
[07:34] <Ademan> PsyberS: my dmesg oor /var/log/syslog had a bunch of crap about wpa_supplicant
[07:34] <goose|PC> so whenever I boot up, I have a "Linux crashed omg lol wtf would you like to submit a crash report to the devs" popup. So I hit yes, submit crash report, and I get "This problem cannot be reported: This is not a genuine Ubuntu package."
[07:34] <PsyberS> [  897.431763] ndiswrapper (iw_set_auth:1602): invalid cmd 12
[07:34] <PsyberS> im betting this is a problem :)
[07:34] <phix> Loafers: I don't know
[07:35] <EvRide> loafers, instead you connect to the server when you need to through ssh, start the vnc server with ssh, and then connect to the vnc server once it's started
[07:35] <EvRide> using a vnc client
[07:35] <Loafers> EvRide, why did it mention ssh?
[07:35] <EvRide> cause i said ssh is used to start vnc so it runs only when you need to
[07:36] <merc250s> I can boot into commandline. Any idea why desktop wouldn't load?
[07:36] <tehowe> Anyone else had a problem w/ Karmic not mounting the install disk? I tried both Ubuntu, UbuntuStudio 9.10, neither will install. :(
[07:36] <del_diablo> issyl0: the  CPU freq deamons hardbuildt into the kernel as it was in 9.04? Anybody knows?
[07:36] <Loafers> EvRide, sry i was busy reading your previous msg and typed but didn't scroll down X_X
[07:37] <DexterLB> finally
[07:37] <Axius> Where can I find a program to paste from the console to the web?
[07:37] <daleharvey> I have osx and an external hard drive, how to I make the hard drive bootable from an iso
[07:37] <DexterLB> the release version of karmic arrived at the server of bulgaria
[07:37] <Loafers> !pastebin | Axius
[07:37] <bazhang> Axius, install pastebinit
[07:37] <daleharvey> as I would with usb-creator
[07:37] <DexterLB> beginning upgrade!
[07:38] <asm`\> hi there
[07:38] <JAMD4561> !edubuntu
[07:40] <Guest35726> #ubuntu-release-party
[07:41] <Loafers> EvRide, thanks! i understand now
[07:41] <Tulga> in my 8.04, I cannot run path. what is "diff --git"?
[07:41] <Tulga> in my 8.04, I cannot run patch*. what is "diff --git"?
[07:41] <EvRide> great, yw
[07:42] <Guest35726> sain uu, Tulga
[07:42] <Tulga> Guest35726: sain uu
[07:42] <Guest35726> sain sain, IRC-d mongol huntei taarah saihan bna shu :)
[07:43] <Ademan> Tulga: diff --git compares two files and produces output useful for the git dvcs
[07:43] <Tulga> hehe
[07:43] <Tulga> Ademan: I have diff. but diff haven't option --git
[07:43] <Randy_> Hi.  i am upgrading using the Alternate x64 image file loop mounted to /dev/cdrom0. I responded NO to downloading from the internet, yet it is still downloading it's packages from the internet.  Also, the detail window is not functioning.  Also, the cdrom image is not set up to autorun like the documentation says it should.
[07:43] <Tulga> I should install another packages?
[07:43] <Axius> How to change a user name?
[07:44] <Simkin> hey guys
[07:44] <Simkin> i had to set up a windows 7 box at work
[07:44] <Simkin> it was mostly dreadful
[07:44] <Simkin> but it had one cool feature i had never seen before.
[07:44] <Simkin> in the audio mixer control, each application that had the sound device open showed up with it's own volume control.
[07:44] <Simkin> is there such a thing in the linux world?
[07:44] <daleharvey> urm, why is ubuntu asking me for login details on a livecd
[07:45] <Ademan> Tulga: i don't have --git either, hum, i don't know...
[07:45] <vox> Simkin: not that im aware of
[07:45] <vadviktor> Simkin: it's not win7 but vista new stuff
[07:45] <Ademan> daleharvey: i dunno, but username is ubuntu, password is either nothing or ubuntu as well
[07:45] <kyrandesa> daleharvey: it does if you want to install sth
[07:45] <Tulga> Ademan: I'm trying patch this file http://benno.id.au/android/armv4t.diff
[07:45] <Guest35726> Tulga: chi patch ajilluulah geed bga yum u? eswel 2 file-n diff (yalgaa)-g harah gej bgamu?
[07:45] <vadviktor> Simkin: but yes from 8.10 or so, Ubuntu has Pulseaudio as default, and it does just like that
[07:45] <Simkin> vadviktor: never had to use vista.
[07:45] <del_diablo> issyl0: the  CPU freq deamons hardbuildt into the 9.10 kernel as it was in 9.04? Anybody knows?
[07:45] <Simkin> pulseaudio
[07:45] <Simkin> i will check it out
[07:45] <Simkin> thanks vadviktor
[07:45] <RussellAlan> whats a command to install vncserver?
[07:46] <Ademan> Tulga: well you already have the diff, you don't need to run diff anymore
[07:46] <vadviktor> Simkin: and ubuntu had this feature well ahead Vista I think
[07:46] <Tulga> Guest35726: http://benno.id.au/android/armv4t.diff ene neg patch baigaa um. eniig ajilluulah geheer engiin patch-r hiij boldoggui
[07:46] <RussellAlan> on kde, sudo apt-get install vncserver ?
[07:46] <del_diablo> !kernel
[07:46] <Tulga> Ademan: I tried patch -p0 < armv4t.diff, but no luck
[07:46] <vikb> While in Jaunty I tried to install firefox 3.5 from the url http://www.ubuntusolutions.org/2009/07/installing-firefox-3-5-the-right-way-on-ubuntu-jaunty.html ... Ever since that the font rendering is not proper even after an upgrade to Karmic Koala
[07:47] <iceroot> i am using rtorrent, i have download 6 isos and then closed the program, if i start it again, it seems that my isos are not shared anymore (noone downloading from me) what to do so that others can download the isos from me?
[07:47] <Ademan> Tulga: what exactly happened when you did that?
[07:47] <spO> are any of you having rpoblems downloading  ttf-mscorefonts-installer  ?
[07:47] <zvacet> Randy_:  type gksu "sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade"
[07:47] <vadviktor> Simkin: on the new Karmic it is more advanced now, because I have  a Soundblaster card and until Jaunty I was not able to hack it and make it sound, and now In Karmic it is automatically configured as it should be, and with the pulseaudio server :)
[07:48] <iceroot> !error | spO
[07:48] <Tulga> Ademan: can't find file. I read git-diff. it uses a/ and b/. but a/ and b/ are not directory
[07:48] <vikb> The monospace font is appearing jagged now in firefox 3.5 .... they are not sharp!!! What could be wrong is it got to do with xulrunner?
[07:48] <Tulga> my system think a/ and b/ are directory
[07:49] <kwagga> Hi guys :)
[07:49] <daleharvey> ok, this isnt going to work
[07:49] <pradeep> my ubuntu one is giving error!! :-(
[07:49] <spO> I installed the new ubuntu, then i installed wine , and it tried to install  ttf-mscorefonts-installer , but it couldn't download it from sourceforge
[07:49] <Loafers> spO, yup its a known bug
[07:49] <daleharvey> can I create a bootable external drive with an ubuntu iso and osx?
[07:50] <Guest69777> Just upgraded my Ubuntu Netbook remix to 9.10. The only thing about it that I'm not liking, thusfar, is that my boot progress, boot splash, and login window screens are all from the Xubuntu distro. There's no functional issue here, I just don't like it because I don't use Xubuntu. I can't go in and edit this since they don't use GDM any more. Anyone have any ideas as to why this is?
[07:50] <pradeep> in ubuntu one ,GET_SERVER_HELLO : unknown protocol, some error like this when i try and connect using ubuntu one
[07:50] <Loafers> daleharvey, external as in flash drive?
[07:50] <Guest69777> Fawk...where'd my name go?
[07:51] <daleharvey> Loafers: its an external hard drive, I used usb-creator to make it bootable when I had linux
[07:51] <And4713[LT]> losha, are you still around I have discovered something
[07:51] <Loafers> daleharvey, i tried setting up ubuntu on external hard drive but it was a complete mess
[07:51] <PsyberS> for anyone curious i fixed my inability to connect to encrypted wifi by doing a renice +19 on dhclient
[07:52] <daleharvey> I dont want to set it up on an external drive, I just want to boot from one
[07:52] <del_diablo> Is the  CPU freq deamons hardbuildt into the 9.10 kernel as it was in 9.04? Anybody knows?
[07:52] <Guest69777> If anybody looked at the login question just wait a sec. I have to leave for a minute.
[07:53] <SmokeyD> jippy! 9.10 is available! :)
[07:53] <JAMD4561> The same thing happened to me, I had XFCE installed beside Ubuntu, What I did was I uninstalled XFCE components
[07:53] <EvRide> uh... ya smokey
[07:53] <del_diablo> SmokeyD: Do you know if the cpu scaling deamons is buildt into the kernel?
[07:53] <alabd> Good day everyone , here https://shipit.ubuntu.com/myrequest is written : ""becoming an Ubuntu member by contributing to Ubuntu, and thereby becoming eligible for more CDs"" how to become ubuntu member ?
[07:53] <SmokeyD> del_diablo: no clue
[07:53] <bibekdai> .
[07:53] <SmokeyD> \:)
[07:54] <JAMD4561> and reinstalled all of the Ubuntu packages that are involved with the splash screen and Login screen
[07:54] <SmokeyD> I was just about to check Karmic out
[07:54] <Loafers> daleharvey, how can you boot from external hard drive without setting it up first?
[07:54] <JAMD4561> from Synaptic Package Manager
[07:55] <daleharvey> Loafers: you set it up first
[07:55] <daleharvey> on linux I used usb-creator
[07:55] <Loafers> daleharvey, well anyway, i tried setting up ubuntu on my external hard drive so i could boot it up to and use it for library/school and it was a complete mess.
[07:56] <Loafers> daleharvey, most of the guides/methods are meant for flash drive
[07:56] <zvacet> alabd:   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership
[07:56] <Zeero> So anyways. Anybody have any idea why my boot/splash/login windows are Xubuntu, even though I've never touched that flavor of Ubuntu?
[07:56] <Loafers> daleharvey, i always thought it would work for external hdd too since it connects to comptuer via usb but apparently there are differences
[07:56] <Loafers> daleharvey, you can check out pendrivelinux
[07:56] <daleharvey> it works fine with an external hard drive
[07:56] <bibekdai> .
[07:56] <zvacet> alabd:  you can get CD from your loco team if there is one in your country
[07:56] <unimatrix> in Karmic, glxinfo hangs and prevents compiz from starting... how could i fix that?
[07:56] <del_diablo> daleharvey: How did you install it? Remember to use a PC without a hardisk when you install so grub gets correctly placed(been there and done it)
[07:57] <Randy_> zvacet: What is the difference between running gksu and running as root in terminal?  Also, what is the difference between /cdrom/cdromupgrade and /media/cdrom0/cdromupgrade?
[07:57] <quentusrex> What the hell happened to the game Freecell after upgrading to Karmic?
[07:57] <soreau> unimatrix: Which driver are you using?
[07:57] <bibekdai> .
[07:57] <unimatrix> soreau: nvidia 185, same as on jaunty
[07:57] <Zeero> Or rather...is there any way to change my boot/splash/login window from being Xubuntu to what they should be (regular ol' Ubuntu) in Karmic?
[07:57] <alabd> zvacet: thanks but should they send free ?
[07:57] <examancer> moving to ubuntu 9.10 on my netbook (aspire one)... anyone familiar with netbook remix vs desktop on a netbook? anyone have a preference?
[07:57] <kodokbleduk> i have problem with option globetrotter pcmcia with Option N.V. Qualcomm MSM6275 UMTS chip in karmic... it not recognize my modem.... work fine before in 9.04
[07:58] <iceroot> Randy_: there is no difference for being root or gksudo for starting GUI-Apps, but there are difference between sudo and gksdo (sudo cant get the X environment correct)
[07:58] <soreau> unimatrix: If glxinfo hangs your system, something is definitely wrong with your driver installation
[07:58] <PsyberS> the automatic X login stopped working after the upgrade, any way i can fix that via ssh?
[07:58] <Zeero> Normally I'd spend 30 seconds fixing up GDM, but they took it away from me.
[07:58] <alabd> zvacet: is this down ? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership
[07:58] <Zeero> And Examance: Try them both!
[07:58] <Zeero> I'm on NBR right now.
[07:58] <tehowe> CD-ROM doesn't mount, can't install 9.10 Has anyone else seen this, or have any suggestions to get it to work? This is for Ubunut-studio, but regular ubuntu freezes on the pulsing white symbol and says something similar if you hit CTRL-ALT-DEL as well
[07:58] <zvacet> Randy_ I just poated you command from  http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
[07:58] <examancer> Zeero: hehehe. well, i was hoping someone would save me some time :-P
[07:58] <Zeero> I use the traditional layout because it's what I'm most used to.
[07:58] <unimatrix> soreau: it doesn't hang my system, it hangs itself, and my driver was installed by ubuntu so what could really go wrong?
[07:59] <daleharvey> i dont have a pen drive, you arent suggesting anything relevant to what I am actually asking
[07:59] <Zeero> The NBR specific layout is nice. It's pretty. It's well thought out. And it uses surprisingly little resources.
[07:59] <damo22> is karmic an LTS release?
[07:59] <PsyberS> no
[07:59] <Loafers> daleharvey, no which is why i stfu
[07:59] <zvacet> aalab : no it is not down I checked just sec ago
[07:59] <examancer> Zeero: is it pretty easy to switch it from the default NBR layout to the traditional one?
[07:59] <Zeero> It just doesn't FEEL like a desktop operating system to me.
[07:59] <soreau> unimatrix: Pastebin the output of compiz from your terminal
[07:59] <jimbeam12> whats a good temperature program for ubuntu
[07:59] <Zeero> Examancer: IT's in your system settings. Hang on.
[07:59] <zvacet> alabd:  you you should get it for free
[07:59] <examancer> i used 9.04 NBR. was fairly pleased
[07:59] <kodokbleduk> anyone know how to fix Option N.V. Qualcomm MSM6275 UMTS chip problem in karmic?
[08:00] <shadypixie3> hai guys
[08:00] <examancer> but didn't like not being able to go back to a standard layout. didn't realize it was just a pref
[08:00] <th3raid0r> Hello again everyone, I got past my initial bug, but now when I start my computer using the FGLRX driver i get a frequency range error. Does anyone know how to scale this back to my monitor's capabilities?
[08:00] <shadypixie3> any way to configure tone (treble and bass for example) in Karmic Koala?
[08:00] <Zeero> It is just a preference.
[08:00] <Zeero> I believe...that they've taken away the "switch desktop mode" button.
[08:00] <Zeero> Way to go, Karmic.
[08:01] <unimatrix> soreau: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/304872
[08:01] <cruesch> Hi.
[08:01] <Zeero> I needed that button too.
[08:01] <unimatrix> soreau: that's where it hangs and in top glxinfo will have 100% cpu
[08:01] <shadypixie3> any way to configure tone (treble and bass for example) in Karmic Koala?
[08:02] <bibekdai> .
[08:02] <soreau> unimatrix: Sounds like you need to reinstall the nvidia glx driver
[08:02] <Zeero> Examancer: They killed the button. I just upgraded to karmic today, and I can't find it anywhere.
[08:02] <unimatrix> soreau: tried that, didn't help
[08:02] <Zeero> *Grumbles*
[08:02] <padi999> hi
[08:02] <shadypixie3> what button has been taken away?
[08:02] <padi999> after updating to 9.10, my firefox bookmarks are gone, can I get them back somehow?
[08:03] <Guitar_maniac> i upgraded to karmic.. now i cant update my system (it says that some lock cant be opened) dvd's wont work and timidity wont either...
[08:03] <Zeero> The "switch desktop mode" option under "Look and Feel" for the Ubuntu Netbook Remix.
[08:03] <th3raid0r> Hello again everyone, I got past my initial bug, but now when I start my computer using the FGLRX driver i get a frequency range error. Does anyone know how to scale this back to my monitor's capabilities?
[08:03] <Loafers> !repeat | th3raid0r
[08:03] <examancer> Zeero: thanks. i'm sure i could script a button if i find myself switching a lot
[08:04] <Admiral-Awesome> can somebody tell me how I switch from Pulseaudio to Alsa or oss?
[08:04] <Zeero> Also: My Ubuntu Netbook Remix still boots with the Xubuntu rat boot loading screen and login window. Has this happened to anybody else after the upgrade? It just seems so weird!
[08:04] <Admiral-Awesome> can somebody tell me how I switch from Pulseaudio to Alsa or oss? on9.10
[08:04] <Shwack> unimatrix: got a call from gf and stilll listening to her talk
[08:04] <jas4711> anyone know where i can find the checkbox report sent by my machine?  it says it sent it to launchpad...
[08:05] <unimatrix> Shwack: lol
[08:05] <examancer> does ntfs-3g normally take a lot of CPU to write? i have my server box writing torrent downloads (ubuntu 9.10 versions) to an external usb 2.0 ntfs formatted hard drive... the CPU is nearly pegged and ntfs-3g is taking up the lions share of it
[08:05] <Zeero> Whoopsidoodles.
[08:05] <Shwack> unimatrix: havent gotten anywhere this whole time
[08:05] <examancer> is that normal?
[08:05] <Guitar_maniac> What is akonadi? it is on my updates list but i cant select it :O
[08:05] <skx> why is everything so dark and ugly in karmic? do I have a bad karma or sth? can you get the previous colors back in some easy way?
[08:05] <skx> examancer, do you also seed/has torrents at the same time?
[08:05] <pnukeid> what the best feature of ubuntu 9.10
[08:05] <skx> seed/hash*
[08:05] <erle-> how can i import my old .evolution folder to evolution?
[08:06] <Loafers> pnukeid, nothing
[08:06] <examancer> skx: one of them is done and seeding, yes
[08:06] <skx> pnukeid, not breaking anything from 9.04 from what I see
[08:06] <Admiral-Awesome> can somebody tell me how I switch from Pulse audio to Alsa or oss? on 9.10
[08:06] <Loafers> Ubuntu no longer recognizes windows button... why did they do this!?!?
[08:06] <th3raid0r> Okay, does anyone know how to modify my Xorg.conf file to bring down my 3d card's frequency down to a level which my CRT can use? I have looked this up online with no decent results.
[08:07] <ripps> Admiral-Awesome: why? are you having issues with pulse?
[08:07] <infidx> Loafers the windows key in ubuntu is called <Super> i think
[08:07] <Zeero> Skx: Human-clearlooks is still the old orange. If you don't like any of the themes they give you, go to www.gnome-look.org and find something that fits your style!
[08:07] <infidx> Loafers so you proably have to map super to something in the keyboard options
[08:07] <Arinmal> hey everyone
[08:07] <Shwack> unimatrix: I found a forum with multiple posts about the new adobe not working well with flash in full screen - I'm going to follow up on htat for a while before removing compiz - ... "I like my cube"
[08:07] <skx> Zeero, I just liked the last one, I'm not 13 to go around and set every color ;)
[08:07] <Loafers> infidx, I tried using window button as hotkey to maximize and minimize all windows like i did in Jaunty, but in Karmic it doesn't even recognize it anymore
[08:07] <Squeak> Can anyone suggest how I go about stopping my resolv.conf file from being overwritten at boot?
[08:07] <Admiral-Awesome> ripps,cause of mumble
[08:07] <skx> Zeero, thanks though
[08:07] <alphaOmegaEpsilo> When trying to upgrade to koala my computer crashed and now I can not enter ubuntu. So I am entering via recovery mode in order to move important files to my usb but I do not know where my usb is mounted. It is mentioning "sdc" but there is no /dev/sdc (only /dev/sda*). (I do not have a live cd)
[08:07] <ripps> Admiral-Awesome: mumble?
[08:08] <unimatrix> Shwack: i didn't say 'remove' compiz i just said turn it off
[08:08] <Arinmal> I need some grub help :(
[08:08] <unimatrix> Shwack: it's 2 seconds of work
[08:08] <Zeero> Skx: Isn't the only difference that we now have a brown window border?
[08:08] <Loafers> alphaOmegaEpsilo, type dmesg
[08:08] <shadypixie3> any way to configure tone (treble and bass for example) in Karmic Koala?
[08:08] <Zeero> Other than the icons, that is.
[08:08] <examancer> red bull at 3am was a mistake
[08:08] <Shwack> unimatrix: im sorry im as newb as a linux newb gets i just installed for the first time this week :)
[08:08] <muhammad_baiquni> why my download so late
[08:08] <skx> Zeero, it's more than that -- selecion colors are also darker... everything is darker
[08:08] <unimatrix> Shwack: ok... System --> Preferences --> Appearance --> Visual Effects
[08:08] <muhammad_baiquni> when i using wget, my download is faster more than 50 KB/s
[08:09] <unimatrix> Shwack: put it to None to turn off compiz
[08:09] <muhammad_baiquni> but when i wanna update my system, the apt-get only download with 8000 B/s
[08:09] <alphaOmegaEpsilo> Loafers, I did but could not find the location. What should I look for?
[08:09] <xenefungus> anyone else experiencing PROBLEMS with intel cards? for me its an gm965 that gives me only half the fps @ glxgears
[08:09] <th3raid0r> Has anyone had any luck scaling down their own card's frequency range to better comply with an older monitor?
[08:09] <examancer> skx: that can all be switched pretty easily with a few clicks, right? can't you just change the theme?
[08:09] <Flannel> alphaOmegaEpsilo: You cna probably finish the install and it'll fix stuff: apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade (assuming your sources are moved over) or try update manager (not sure how well that will work with half-baked upgrades)
[08:09] <xenefungus> ..after the update to 9.10 of course
[08:09] <Shwack> unimatrix: currently all 3 are unchecked - if I checked none is there  way I can get all 3 unchecked again?
[08:09] <th3raid0r> Maybe using Xorg or some other tool?
[08:09] <Admiral-Awesome> ripps,Mumble is an open source, low-latency, high quality voice chat software
[08:09] <examancer> i for one like the new color scheme and welcome our black accented overlords
[08:09] <skx> Zeero, clearlooks does it for me
[08:09] <JAMD4561> Is the login question guy here?
[08:09] <unimatrix> muhammad_baiquni: that's ubuntu servers are overloaded right now
[08:09] <skx> Zeero, thanks again
[08:09] <Zeero> Woo.
[08:09] <Loafers> alphaOmegaEpsilo, unplug usb, plug in usb type dmesg and it should show what device was just plugged in
[08:09] <unimatrix> muhammad_baiquni: *because
[08:10] <ripps> Admiral-Awesome: well, disabling pulse is especially tricky now
[08:10] <unimatrix> Shwack: weird, just check None then
[08:10] <Admiral-Awesome> why is ubuntu starting to feel like windows more and more
[08:10] <Shwack> unimatrix: testing everything out right now one sec
[08:10] <odyi> Anyone been able to find a way to get the ALSA switch to turn headphones off to work since karmic?
[08:11] <Zeero> I blame all of Ubuntu's viruses and bloatware, Admiral-Awesome.
[08:11] <Admiral-Awesome> I hope I dont have to oay for it soon
[08:11] <Blank__> what do you mean, Admiral-Awesome? i thought that it's natural for this many bugs right after release
[08:11] <skx> Admiral-Awesome, it's the old x version and pulse
[08:11] <larsemil> how do i change kernel commands in grub2? cant find a menu.lst file..
[08:11] <daleharvey> its not natural for ubuntu
[08:11] <Admiral-Awesome> I just want sessions back
[08:11] <examancer> Admiral-Awesome: i think you are maybe just getting more used to it? i don't see drive by malware or infuriating installers yet...
[08:12] <skx> btw, anyone using these gnome desktop sharing vnc-like thingy? is it secure?
[08:12] <trijntje> larsemil, /boot/grub
[08:12] <skx> this*
[08:12] <odyi> larsemil: you want /etc/grub.d
[08:12] <daleharvey> isnt sessions identical to the startup menu?
[08:12] <odyi> I suggest you go do some reading
[08:12] <Admiral-Awesome> not its not
[08:12] <larsemil> trijntje: there are no config files there
[08:12] <alabd> Will ubuntu team (canonical) help to write a typographic book in other languages ??
[08:12] <mvalviar> hi i need a little help. I'm getting connection timed out whenever i try ssh uname@remotemachine
[08:12] <larsemil> odyi: really? will look
[08:12] <odyi> grub2 configuration is scripted and not fun to mess with
[08:13] <odyi> ther is no simple file that holds everything
[08:13] <Admiral-Awesome> anyway I just see less and less control of the environment going on imo
[08:13] <padi999> *sniff, all my firefox bookmarks...gone :(
[08:13] <odyi> Well there is but it gets over-written by grub-update
[08:13] <shadypixie3> where can i find Volume Control in Karmic?
[08:13] <iceroot> odyi: not so easy as /boot/grub/menu.lst before?
[08:13] <odyi> hell no
[08:13] <ripps> Admiral-Awesome: that has more do with Gnome's design decisions than ubuntu's
[08:13] <daleharvey> Admiral-Awesome: any explanation of how its different? if I remember correctly its identical
[08:13] <Blank__> too many changes :s
[08:14] <mvalviar> where can I get a torrent file for ubuntustudion 9.10 i386?
[08:14] <Admiral-Awesome> ok well I disagree
[08:14] <larsemil> odyi: its nothing like the old menu.lst
[08:14] <examancer> mvalviar: ubuntustudion?
[08:14] <odyi> larsemil: correct
[08:14] <daleharvey> it has the startup options on one tab, then "save current running applications" and "save session as you logout" on the other
[08:14] <Admiral-Awesome> If Im complaining from jaunty to karmic then something is wrong
[08:14] <mvalviar> ubuntustudio*
[08:15] <th3raid0r> shadypixie3: open up a terminal and type alsamixer
[08:15] <Zeero> Anyone think that I can  modify something in the /boot directory that will change my boot splash back to what it should be (IE: from Xubutu (how the heck did that get there!?) back to Ubuntu)
[08:15] <daleharvey> you cant disagree, it isnt an opinion
[08:15] <daleharvey> its the same or it isnt
[08:15] <examancer> mvalviar: all the official torrents are at the bottom of this page: http://releases.ubuntu.com/karmic/
[08:15] <Admiral-Awesome> Its dumbed down jaunty I think
[08:15] <Zeero> Because I just don't like that little rat guy.
[08:15] <Zeero> Somehow he's there though.
[08:15] <Zeero> Little bugger.
[08:16] <examancer> he's cute
[08:16] <Zeero> I didn't install him, though.
[08:16] <Zeero> He's just...there.
[08:16] <Admiral-Awesome> back to arch for the 5th time I guess
[08:16] <daleharvey> you are seriously moaning about the downfall of the operating system because they changed the word from sessions to startup?
[08:16] <aKuma-chan> hi
[08:16] <shadypixie3> thanks Th3raid0r - anything similar for pulseaudio?
[08:16] <examancer> mice are pervasive little creatures
[08:16] <Zeero> I don't get the Ubuntu boot splash or login screen.
[08:16] <hacker> please how do i resolve the problem of a white blinking cursor and jaunty not booting?
[08:16] <mvalviar> ubuntu studio isn't listed there
[08:16] <Zeero> I have the Xubuntu one for some reason
[08:16] <Shwack> unimatrix: it didnt help
[08:16] <Zeero> I would very much like for it to go away, though...mostly because I'm not using Xubuntu.
[08:17] <trijntje> !info | hacker
[08:17] <fahadsadah> Zeero: Splash screens are interchangeable.
[08:17] <Admiral-Awesome> Pulse audio is a joke I still dont understand why its used when we have alsa
[08:17] <Zeero> Also, Admiral-Awesome: I was just going to suggest Arch to you.
[08:17] <trijntje> !details | hacker
[08:17] <MarkGi> Hi, I am newbie trying to write a bash script.  I have this: http://pastebin.com/m4aee05d1  But it's failing on some machines, as their hardware identifies itself as "armv5tejl"  How can I change this to check with a wildcard: armv5*
[08:17] <th3raid0r> Zeero: sudo apt-get purge xubuntu-artwork ... then sudo apt-get install ubuntu-artwork .. tada!
[08:17] <Arinmal> can someone send me a pm..i messed my grub up and really wanna know how to fix it
[08:18] <MenZa> !pm | Arinmal
[08:18] <Zeero> th3raid0r: Well I'll be a monkey's uncle...
[08:18] <mvalviar> sorry guys. I just joined the irc chan for ubuntustudio. I'll ask from there. Anyway any hellp with my ssh problem?
[08:18] <Zeero> 12.8 MB of Xubuntu artwork? Where did that come from?
[08:18] <Shwack> unimatrix: I think im going to try and go back to old versions of flash  - thank you for your help
[08:18] <Zeero> Purgin' now.
[08:18] <ripps> Admiral-Awesome: because it solve alot of archetectual problems with alsa, and it allows for configure of sound that even a computer noob can learn to use.
[08:18] <unimatrix> Shwack: okay, good luck
[08:18] <th3raid0r> Zeero: I think we were all a monkey's relative at some point in life, lol
[08:18] <hacker> i have a problem with my jaunty jackalope. when i boot, it doesnt boot to desktop it jsut shows a black screen and a blinking white cursor at the top left corner and it just stays there
[08:19] <duncan_> Admiral-Awesome, what is wrong with pulse audio?
[08:19] <ripps> Admiral-Awesome: btw, this might help with disabling pulse, it's for jaunty, but since it doesn't involve uninstalling anything it might work in karmic: http://idyllictux.wordpress.com/2009/04/21/ubuntu-904-jaunty-keeping-the-beast-pulseaudio-at-bay/
[08:19] <Zeero> hacker: perhaps you should type " sudo do-release-upgrade "
[08:19] <loquitus> to upgrade to 9.10, do I run "do-release-upgrade"???
[08:19] <Admiral-Awesome> Ya I know it well I was just hoping ubuntu had finally stepped up ripps
[08:19] <Zeero> For to make a karmic.
[08:19] <loquitus> or sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:19] <daleharvey> ok, anyone know how to create a bootable drive / usb stick for ubuntu from osx?
[08:19] <examancer> mvalviar: oh, i see what's wrong. cdimage.ubuntu.com isn't up or is super slow so you need an alternate way to get the torrent
[08:19] <fahadsadah> loquitus: The former.
[08:20] <loquitus> fahadsadah: what is the latter for?
[08:20] <th3raid0r> Guys, for anyone that is complaining about pulse audio, you can still go to the terminal and use alsamixer and have the same old terminal interface.
[08:20] <fahadsadah> The latter will work if you change /etc/apt/sources.list to point at karmic repositories.
[08:20] <Arinmal> lol ok, I had 2 partitions with linux on them..and removed them after installing ubuntu cause i like it...problem is now grub wont give me a menu it just crashes at partition not found..im on the live cd now btw
[08:20] <mvalviar> examancer: should i just wait for it to be up?
[08:20] <ripps> Admiral-Awesome: actually, pulse has made alot of improvements, and lot of it's problems come from the fact the alsa drivers are a mess, there is little consistensy between the mixers and operations between cards
[08:20] <Admiral-Awesome> ya I saw that
[08:20] <ripps> Also, alsa has a stupid limitation on the number of streams that can play.
[08:21] <fahadsadah> ripps: Lol, wait a second?
[08:21] <examancer> mvalviar: you might want to try a torrent tracker. all the sites seem to be linking to that same cdimage.ubuntu.com link
[08:21] <fahadsadah> Ubuntu isn't using ALSA anymore?
[08:21] <ripps> fahadsadah: pluse is layer on top of alsa
[08:21] <examancer> i can't find anywhere hosting the .torrent directly either
[08:21] <th3raid0r> Has anyone had any luck scaling down their own card's frequency range to better comply with an older monitor?
[08:21] <th3raid0r> Maybe using Xorg or some other tool? it is beginning to bug me.
[08:21] <th3raid0r> Yeah, alsa is still very much there
[08:21] <Zeero> Fail.
[08:21] <Arinmal> anyone?
[08:21] <xenefungus> anyone else experiencing PROBLEMS with intel cards now? for me its an gm965 that gives me only half the fps @ glxgears after the installation of 9.10
[08:21] <Zeero> Still Xubuntu.
[08:22] <Zeero> It's just that I don't use Xubuntu...
[08:22] <Axius> How to add a user to sudoers?
[08:22] <examancer> mvalviar: http://www.mininova.org/search/?search=ubuntu+studio&cat=0
[08:22] <Zeero> Why is he there?
[08:22] <th3raid0r> Zeero: have you reinstalled ubuntu-artwork?
[08:22] <Zeero> Yes.
[08:22] <Admiral-Awesome> anyway I can still play regnum with openal so it fine
[08:22] <Zeero> And purged the xubuntu artwork.
[08:22] <examancer> the first two appear to be what you're looking for
[08:22] <Zeero> It's the karmic boot load progressy thingy.
[08:23] <Zeero> It looks like little fireflies.
[08:23] <trijntje> Zero: what does lsb_release -a say?
[08:23] <Admiral-Awesome> why didnt they go grub2?
[08:23] <fahadsadah> Axius: sudo visudo
[08:23] <th3raid0r> Zeero: okay, have you tried installing the package ubuntu-xsplash-artwork?
[08:23] <fahadsadah> Wait a second, sorry.
[08:23] <Zeero> No LSB modules are available.
[08:23] <Zeero> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
[08:23] <Zeero> Description:	Ubuntu 9.10
[08:23] <Zeero> Release:	9.10
[08:23] <Zeero> Codename:	karmic
[08:23] <FloodBot3> Zeero: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:23] <fahadsadah> That's not recommended.
[08:23] <mvalviar> examancer:that where I first looked for it. How come your search query returned a result and mine didn't :X
[08:23] <Zeero> Oooh crap. Forgot about that...
[08:24] <examancer> heh. maybe just added?
[08:24] <examancer> :-P
[08:24] <fahadsadah> Axius: sudo adduser *username* admin
[08:24] <fahadsadah> Use the latter, the former is deprecated.
[08:24] <th3raid0r> Has anyone had any luck scaling down their own card's frequency range to better comply with an older monitor?
[08:24] <trijntje> Zeero, that means you do have ubuntu, not xubuntu ;)
[08:24] <th3raid0r> Maybe using Xorg or some other tool? I really need to get it fixed soon, i need some sleep... 2 AM here in AZ
[08:24] <hacker> someone please help. ubuntu 9.04 not booting to desktop. it just stops at a black screen with a white blinking cursor
[08:24] <Zeero> Yes...but how and why the Xubuntu boot stuff got here...
[08:24] <Zeero> A more interesting question.
[08:25] <mvalviar> examancer: this is the first time i'll be installing from scratch. Can I create a startup usb from the iso and install from there?
[08:25] <daleharvey> hacker, wild guess, ddo you get to grub?
[08:25] <th3raid0r> Indeed, Zeero, Indeed
[08:25] <fahadsadah> Zeero: Perhaps you unintentionally installed Xubuntu packages.
[08:25] <Zeero> That has to be it...
[08:25] <Admiral-Awesome> I just want to know why I cant use sessions anymore and saying startup is the same them im laughing
[08:25] <examancer> mvalviar: yes. if you are currently in windows use unetbootin
[08:25] <hacker> yes i did
[08:25] <Zeero> But I don't know how that could be an accident.
[08:25] <examancer> if you are in ubuntu you can use that or another app
[08:26] <Zeero> And that xplash artork package told me it didn't exist.
[08:26] <billthepwny> hello, I've got some networking difficulties.  I'm running Ubuntu 9.04.  the NetworkManager states that there are no valid active connections found, and yet through Network Tools, I can ping, tracert, etc.  IRC works, but web browsers and other internet apps behave as though the network cable is disconnected.
[08:26] <daleharvey> Admiral-Awesome: what about "sessions" cant you use?
[08:26] <mvalviar> examancer: i'm in ubuntu jj :)
[08:26] <th3raid0r> So, I am guessing no one can answer my question. The Forums are failing me as well.
[08:26] <Shwack> unimatrix: FREEEDDOOMMMMM - off the phone finally - holy mother of god that was hard to sit through.. anyway it seems enough people have the problem to where there will be a fix soon.  I really do appreciate the help
[08:26] <daleharvey> im pretty sure the options inside those dialogs are identical to what they were before
[08:26] <Zeero> Woo! Synaptic crashed.
[08:26] <examancer> mvalviar: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[08:26] <Shwack> Linux is awesome
[08:26] <th3raid0r> Zeero: you spelled it wrong ubuntu-xsplash-artwork
[08:27] <Shwack> I can't believe i waited this long to try it out
[08:27] <Zeero> Yeah...that's what I typed.
[08:27] <Shwack> Fuck windows
[08:27] <Shwack> pardon my french
[08:27] <unimatrix> Shwack: it's unfortunate that we can't really fix flash, it all depends on adobe, because the damn thing is closed source
[08:27] <FloodBot3> Shwack: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:27] <billthepwny> NetworkManager lists no wired connections.  adding one, even manually adding IP and DNS addresses is unsuccessful.
[08:27] <th3raid0r> Zeero: Hmm... search it in synaptic instead of apt
[08:27] <Zeero> Wait.
[08:27] <Zeero> Fail.
[08:27] <vesayth1> Does anyone know if I can set up a samba share that uses an ext3 file system and if so where I can find the documentation to do so? I'm tired of using my Shared folders under NTFS as it is ridiculously slow
[08:27] <Zeero> But synaptic just crashed on me.
[08:27] <nikolam> this updatedb.mlocate is KILLING me . Everything just STOPS while it is active.. I started killing apps, till I realised that it hin that slows my machine every DAY in exact same time.. HOW do I change priority settings for the sucker?
[08:28] <th3raid0r> Zeero: Od
[08:28] <Zeero> Crash report was apparrently broken.
[08:28] <th3raid0r> *Odd
[08:28] <xenefungus> anyone else experiencing PROBLEMS with intel cards now? for me its an gm965 that gives me only half the fps @ glxgears after the installation of 9.10
[08:28] <Zeero> I DID type it wrong.
[08:28] <Zeero> from terminal.
[08:28] <Brent> anyone mind helping me with a SLI issue?
[08:28] <daleharvey> Admiral-Awesome:  http://www.techotopia.com/images/b/b5/Ubuntu_desktop_session_options2.jpg
[08:28] <Zeero> Or rather...I forgot "install"
[08:28] <daleharvey> whats the difference?
[08:28] <Azeotrope> how can i access the microphone by SSH?
[08:28] <Zeero>  /facepalm
[08:28] <mvalviar> could anyone help me with my ssh problem. I can ping the machine but i can't connect to it.
[08:28] <Zeero> I'm gonna relog and try this again. Back in 30 seconds (fast boot is fast).
[08:29] <th3raid0r> Zeero: ah, it is okay, we all screw up sometimes... I rather often
[08:29] <skx> does anyone know whether there is a workaround for this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-media/+bug/148181? it's really annoying
[08:29] <Admiral-Awesome> I see what u did there but its not 9.04 style...Again they dumbed it down
[08:29] <nikolam> xenefungus, It is known that Intel drivers on newer Ubuntu still sucks. Bit they were the better ones on previous Ubuntus. That is because of driver model change in Linux. it will pay off after year or something.
[08:29] <Admiral-Awesome> lol Has anybody tried the glrfx drivers with native games...Not impressed
[08:30] <th3raid0r> Please someone for the love of god, point me in some direction to solve my problem, which, to reitterate, is Has anyone had any luck scaling down their own card's frequency range to better comply with an older monitor?
[08:30] <Brent> anyone mind helping me with a SLI issue?
[08:30] <th3raid0r> Maybe using Xorg or some other tool?
[08:30] <xenefungus> nikolam: thansk, any way to use the previous drivers? they worked just fine.
[08:30] <ubunteez> hi
[08:30] <daleharvey> Admiral-Awesome: that screenshot was from may 2009. it was 9.04
[08:30] <twocarlo> i only use vesa
[08:30] <xenefungus> and why do they say improved support for intel cards when its isnt true at all?
[08:30] <Admiral-Awesome> yes I know
[08:31] <Zeero> Mostly fixed it, guys.
[08:31] <unop> nikolam, you'll have a cronjob in /etc/cron.daily/ for updatedb -- something like /etc/cron.daily/slocate, you just edit the file and give updatedb a nice nice value
[08:31] <mutantconman> say, after 9.10 install I noticed that /usr/lib/debug is around 1GB, I'm sure that wasn't the case before upgrading... can I delete it if I don't want the debug libraries?
[08:31] <Zeero> The rat still appears at the very beginning...and also at shutdown.
[08:31] <nikolam> xenefungus, not that I know. that may be one of reasons I stayed with latest LTS release. And added newer apps from getdeb.net on top of it etc.
[08:31] <Zeero> But my boot load progress shower thingy is Ubuntu.
[08:31] <Zeero> Huzzah!
[08:31] <nikolam> unop, thank you, will see to it, thanks
[08:31] <ubunteez> does anyone know if 9.10 final is compatible with the realtek wifi card on the newest thinkpad x200s? i know that it didn't work on the rc version a few days ago...
[08:31] <Admiral-Awesome> I just want sessions back or back to arch its simple
[08:32] <cdocbo> hey all, can't seem to upgrade to 9.10.  I click on update manager, click upgrade distribution, and it comes up with release notes, I click upgrade and it closes without any messages
[08:32] <Loafers> !wifi | ubunteez
[08:32] <lumis> Looking to buy a decently priced netbook, preferably with a 12 inch screen, any recommendations?
[08:32] <ubunteez> !wifi
[08:32] <nikolam> ubunteez, You can simly test it by downloading ISO, burnin CD and booting from it.
[08:32] <Zeero> Admiral-Awesome: Go back to Arch. It's not a big deal. It's really not. Linux is still Linux for the most part. As long as you're not switching back to Windows or Mac, we're solid.
[08:33] <Zeero> If Arch suits your needs better, there's no question.
[08:33] <daleharvey> Admiral-Awesome: are you complaining about something from before 9.04 then?
[08:33] <ubunteez> ubuntuforums contributors said that the card is not compatible
[08:33] <nikolam> lumis, Dell have some offers, 10 inch i think, with pre-installed Ubuntu
[08:33] <th3raid0r> Zeero: Gratz, now if you want to speed up your boot even more, edit the second line of your grub boot and add profile, you should see a performance increase not on that boot, but everyone thereafter (don't make that change permanent tho)
[08:33] <daleharvey> and I wouldnt mind knowing what these elusive sessions do
[08:34] <examancer> Admiral-Awesome: so what's the deal with this sessions thing? did 9.10 lose a feature? I'm not familiar with what you mean by sessions
[08:34] <nikolam> Zeero, do one using Arch can use Ubuntu repositories and packages? If not, I may ask.. why bother?
[08:34] <Admiral-Awesome> yes its gone
[08:34] <Zeero> That's not the point, nikolam.
[08:34] <duncan_> nikolam, no arch has seperate repositories and their own build system
[08:34] <Zeero> The point is that he really really wants a particular feature. Ubuntu doesn't have it. Arch does.
[08:34] <Admiral-Awesome> They seem to think they amalgamated it with startup stuff but thats a joke
[08:35] <Admiral-Awesome> but anyway I'll get over it
[08:35] <issyl0> I'm wondering whether to upgrade to 9.10 now or wait a bit until the bugs are maybe a bit more ironed out.. ?
[08:35] <nikolam> Aha Zeero I didnt pay atention what would he want
[08:35] <daleharvey> examancer: as much as I can extract he is annoyed they changed the menu "sessions" to "startup"
[08:35] <daleharvey> since they are identical over the last release
[08:35] <filgy> Admiral-Awesome: what do you mean by sessions? switch user should save your session and allow someone else to login to X
[08:35] <duncan_> Admiral-Awesome, what exactly is missing from sessions that you want?
[08:35] <Zeero> Also th3raid0r: modify the second line? Or delete it?
[08:35] <th3raid0r> Well, I must leave guys, if anyone hears anything about adjusting the frequency range to their monitor, hit me up so i can use the proprietary drivers.
[08:36] <Admiral-Awesome> hmm I dont think u get what Im saying
[08:36] <th3raid0r> Zeero- modify, but not permenantly
[08:36] <filgy> Admiral-Awesome: i don't think i do either.. that's why i'm asking you to clarify
[08:36] <duncan_> th3raid0r, you should be able to set refresh rate in your xorg.conf
[08:36] <Zeero> It's the grub-install(8), grub-floppy(8) line...
[08:36] <th3raid0r> Zeero: when you boot, make the change there
[08:36] <Zeero> Ohhh...
[08:36] <Zeero> Not menu.lst.
[08:36] <nikolam> Admiral-Awesome, me neither. I suppose you would like opened programs to stay open or the same apps to start next time you log in or something?
[08:36] <th3raid0r> duncan_: I know this, but i can never seem to make it work.
[08:37] <Admiral-Awesome> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-user-docs/+bug/439775
[08:37] <cdocbo> bah, need to file a bug report
[08:37] <th3raid0r> Zeero: lol, nope
[08:37] <issyl0> .wub 1
[08:37] <Zeero> Well darn.
[08:37] <issyl0> Ew, sorry
[08:37] <duncan_> th3raid0r, what is your monitor rated for?
[08:37] <Balsaq> anyone on the 910
[08:37] <Zeero> Hokay. Thanks for the help, t3raid0rz.
[08:37] <Zeero> Your name is hard to type.
[08:37] <LexR> is there a way to use sound mixer app that has all channels separetly or only the new one that has only one volume?
[08:37] <examancer> Arch looks interesting. kind of in their own little work it looks like. rolled their own package manager
[08:37] <demetris_> hello
[08:37] <examancer> any good? like apt good? or rpm good? huge difference :-P
[08:37] <demetris_> i need some help please
[08:38] <demetris_> i have installed 9.10 dual boot
[08:38] <LexR> ok
[08:38] <duncan_> I stopped using arch I got tired of stability issues and updates breaking functionality, it's not good for a work platform
[08:38] <cviorel> doen anyone experienced X server crashes in Karmic?
[08:38] <th3raid0r> duncan_: It is an old GEM monitor that reports an H of 30-56KHz and a V of 50-120Hz
[08:38] <Loafers> examancer, #archlinux
[08:38]  * odyi used arch for some time...
[08:38] <demetris_> but grub 2 didnt put win xp on selection screen
[08:38] <odyi> in the end it is all just linux
[08:38] <LexR> demetris_, what version of windows do you have>
[08:38] <LexR> ?
[08:38] <demetris_> in the installation detected
[08:38] <examancer> Loafers: something tells me the opinions there might be bias... but fair point
[08:38] <demetris_> win xp
[08:39] <odyi> boot start terminal, done. the terminal is always the same.
[08:39] <LexR> demetris_, open console, type sudo gedit and type in your password
[08:39] <Admiral-Awesome> linux gets like religion to many faiths only one god xD
[08:39] <filgy> Admiral-Awesome: so you want the confirmation dialog back or what? i'm gonna have to file this under a non-issue myself if that is the case ;p
[08:39] <Admiral-Awesome> yes
[08:39] <Zeero> We all just need to get along.
[08:39] <omar> First of all
[08:39] <examancer> Admiral-Awesome: which is funny because so many linux enthusiast I know are atheist
[08:39] <examancer> :-P
[08:40] <demetris_> LexR: ok now what?
[08:40] <Admiral-Awesome> Oh Im  a athiest
[08:40] <omar> Congratulations to the Ubuntu community for the new release!
[08:40] <Loafers> ubuntuce.com
[08:40] <Zeero> I'll hug somebody who uses Fedora, or Arch, or Open SUSE, or anything.
[08:40] <LexR> I am not an atheist! I belive in the Force
[08:40] <samekhmem> hi
[08:40] <examancer> same here
[08:40] <filgy> Admiral-Awesome: did you read the last post for that bug you linked?
[08:40] <samekhmem> is anyone available to assist me with a sound issue?
[08:40] <th3raid0r> Buddhist here... lol
[08:40] <LexR> demetris_, now, open a file /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:40] <filgy> Admiral-Awesome: it tells how to add the dialog back using gconf-editor
[08:40] <duncan_> discussing religion on IRC, not a good idea
[08:40] <Zeero> ...But not someone who uses Mint.
[08:40] <Zeero> They cheated.
[08:40] <Admiral-Awesome> lol
[08:40] <Loafers> There are religious ubuntu users: ubuntuce.com
[08:40] <th3raid0r> What is the problem samekhmem?
[08:40] <omar> Second of all: Why didn't Firefox 3.5.4  hit the repos yet?
[08:41] <samekhmem> Can someone please help me? Sound is not working on my 9.10 install
[08:41] <LexR> there are many linux flavours, some are religious, so what, don't use them if you do not want to...
[08:41] <duncan_> th3raid0r,       HorizSync       30.0 - 56.0
[08:41] <duncan_>       VertRefresh        50.0 - 120.0in your monitor section should do it
[08:41] <daleharvey> I may cry if this install actually works
[08:41] <Zeero> Wait wait wait, I got it. Let's all start using Free BSD!
[08:41]  * nick is back (gone 01:27:29)
[08:41] <daleharvey> I forgot how painful this process could be
[08:42] <LexR> demetris_, did you open that file?"
[08:42] <Admiral-Awesome> to be honest 9.10 ran right away on my toshiba laptop and not one distro before ever did
[08:42] <demetris_> lexr dont have menu.lst on that dir
[08:42] <samekhmem> th3raid0r, sound simply does not work
[08:42] <mistrynitesh> my processor supports 64 bit (intel E2180)... is it better to install 64-bit version? where do i find the pros/cons of ubuntu 32bit vs. 64bit?
[08:42] <samekhmem> th3raid0r, i see the sound icon, I see hardware loaded, but there is no sound
[08:42] <Zeero> sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst ?
[08:43] <th3raid0r> duncan_: so just paste that where? There is no monitor section in my xorg.conf
[08:43] <LexR> Zeero, does new grub have menu.lst file?
[08:43] <free1> apple strikes again, ya mean.  Ipod classic gtkpod no checksum.  where the has at?
[08:43] <Loafers> mistrynitesh, use the livecd and test yourself :D but i heard there are problems with the 64
[08:43] <examancer> LexR: i don't think anyone was bothered by the religious distros. i think the point was to draw a contrast since we were talking about people's almost religious devotion to distros sometimes despite the fact that many linux users are atheist. clearly not all though
[08:43] <daleharvey> and while ubuntu isnt entirely to blame, the way it blows up completely when turning acpi off fixes it work work fine does seem like something that could be done better
[08:43] <Zeero> Good question, LexR.
[08:43] <free1> ela re demetri
[08:43] <examancer> hard to pigeon hole a linux user really
[08:43] <demetris_> zeero: empty file
[08:43] <Admiral-Awesome> no sound in general or are u trying to play a game...Then use openal-soft
[08:43] <demetris_> ela
[08:43] <samekhmem> Admiral-Awesome, no sound in general
[08:43] <examancer> except for the living in mom's basement thing. clearly that's always true ":-P
[08:43] <omar> Why didn't Firefox 3.5.4  hit the repos yet?
[08:43] <free1> ti paizei
[08:43] <LexR> examancer, :)
[08:44] <cviorel> One or more of the mounts listed in /etc/fstab cannot yet be mounted.... does anoyone knows how to deal with this boot message?
[08:44] <Zeero> Where did everone's menu.lst go? I still have mine.
[08:44] <free1> diladi me to gtkpod ?
[08:44] <And4713[LT]> ok I have a new question, I upgraded from 9.04 to 9.10 and 9.10 wont boot unless /boot is commented out in my fstab, any ideas?
[08:44] <duncan_> th3raid0r, just add a 'Section "Monitor"' and then an EndSection after the syncs
[08:44] <demetris_> den mou dialekse to win xp sto dual boot
[08:44] <th3raid0r> samekhmem: open up the terminal and type alsamixer, what do you see?
[08:44] <And4713[LT]> cviorel, Im having similar problems
[08:44] <samekhmem> I have spent the past two hours trying to fix this
[08:44] <demetris_> exo mono ubuntu
[08:44] <daleharvey> Zeero: it went a bunch of places
[08:44] <SunlessHalo> yo
[08:44] <LexR> grub 1.94 i think beta is the new version in 9.10
[08:44] <demetris_> kai memtest
[08:44] <daleharvey> /etc/default/grub
[08:44] <LexR> what was the other file called?
[08:44] <filgy> Zeero: fresh 9.10 installs use grub 2.. an upgrade will still use grub1
[08:44] <Zeero> daleharvey: Erm...why?
[08:44] <Zeero> Ah!
[08:44] <Zeero> filgy explains it.
[08:44] <cviorel> And4713[LT], did you find some workarounds?
[08:44] <Zeero> Well that's odd.
[08:44] <alabd> Will ubuntu team (canonical) help to write a typographic book in other languages ??
[08:45] <LexR> ok, so in grub 2, which file do we have to edit?
[08:45] <SunlessHalo> please, how can I re-run my HDA Intel sound, if it actually doesn't load at all
[08:45] <samekhmem> i see a bunch of mixers
[08:45] <samekhmem> all of them maxed out
[08:45] <free1> skeftomai... ti marka einai o upologistis?
[08:45] <Admiral-Awesome> fresh install I noticed uses a beta grub2
[08:45] <demetris_> please save my win xp
[08:45] <And4713[LT]> cviorel, I have managed to get it to boot by commenting out /boot s entry in the fstab but that is hardly ideal
[08:45] <DJones> !gr | free1
[08:45] <demetris_> i dont want to fix mbr
[08:45] <daleharvey> I added stuff to /etc/default/grub then you need to sudo grub-update
[08:45] <LexR> demetris_, don't wworry, we only need to find a file to add xp path
[08:45] <SunlessHalo> !hda
[08:45] <daleharvey> thats only for options though
[08:45] <omar> Is there an IRC channel for Ubuntu repository administration?
[08:45] <samekhmem> th3raid0r, a bunch of mixers, all maxed out
[08:46] <demetris_> in god we trust :)
[08:46] <duncan_> Admiral-Awesome, I think most of the out of the box laptop functionality is coming from the kernel as I fixed all my issues in 9.04 by updating my kernel
[08:46] <LexR> !grub
[08:46] <LexR> !grub2
[08:46] <omar> *the* Ubuntu repos administration
[08:46] <demetris_> grub2 is buggy...
[08:46] <jmut> hi folks.        how do one take a full snap shot of ubuntu system.        Lets say I have another drive with partition of same size... is it possible that I just transfer whole ubuntu to that other partition
[08:46] <Zeero> Any advantage to having grub2?
[08:46] <demetris_> never had any prob with v1
[08:46] <free1> DJones: what's good with gtkpod and the new hash?
[08:46] <samekhmem> please help!
[08:46] <LexR> Zeero, not really, only better looking somone would say :)
[08:46] <th3raid0r> brb
[08:46] <duncan_> demetris_, I haven't had any issues with grub2 so far, what is it doing on your end?
[08:47] <DJones> free1: Sorry, I've not used it
[08:47] <odyi> Zeero: future themeing support!
[08:47] <Zeero> Better looking? It's white text on a black screen.
[08:47] <LexR> for day to day usage, no different than grub
[08:47] <demetris_> didnt put win xp on the selection screen
[08:47] <Zeero> I mean...at it's core.
[08:47] <cviorel> And4713[LT], the systems boots just fine, the message itself is harmless, since all partitions are mounted.
[08:47] <samekhmem> even though the mixers on alsamixer are maxed out it reads 0.00db
[08:47] <filgy> jmut: you could use 'dd' or any other number of programs to make a exact image of your hd or partition
[08:47] <demetris_> although it see xp on installation
[08:47] <DaveHope> Hi all. Great work on Karmic! (other than it broke my tty customisation). When you run 'aptitude update' it prints a status message, for example 'Current status: 4 updates [+4], 3623 new [+14]'. Is there a way to get this information without doing an aptitude update ?
[08:47] <demetris_> and ask me to import things from the partition
[08:47] <omar> Is there an IRC channel for the Ubuntu repository administration?
[08:47] <And4713[LT]> cviorel, mine does not continue past the message, it proceeds to wait indefinitely
[08:48] <coentakinte> #breunhild
[08:48] <filgy> DaveHope: apt-get update should print all updates available without having to download them
[08:48] <duncan_> demetris_, odd, it added my windows7 by default, I know during development there were some bugs, did you run from a development version or release?
[08:48] <Zeero> So what's grub2 like? Other than buggy.
[08:48] <samekhmem> please help - someone - I need help with my sound
[08:48] <demetris_> duncan: NO final
[08:48] <DaveHope> filgy: Thanks, But I just want to display a count of the pending updates to be installed.
[08:48] <Admiral-Awesome> I just want my sound to work better in regnum online and all is good in ubuntu world. I get sreaming sounds from OpAL
[08:49] <demetris_> installed yesterday night
[08:49] <filgy> DaveHope: that will list all pending updates
[08:49] <SunlessHalo> I need help with sound too... my HDA Intel main sound provider doesn't trigger at all
[08:49] <duncan_> demetris_, odd, file a bug report?
[08:49] <Zeero> samekhmem: Did you already check to make sure you had the asla drivers up to date?
[08:49] <demetris_> duncan_: first i need to fix this
[08:49] <LexR> demetris_, look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2 somewhere in the middle, you have a howto add new entry
[08:50] <DaveHope> flippo: Thanks, but I don't want the list of updates. I want a count of the updates that are needed based on the current package list information (I don't want to go and download it)
[08:50] <helpme> ineed help. 9.10 64 bit installedandwas working fine till reboot. now it hasa white box with mar@mark-desktop:$... not sure what todo
[08:50] <samekhmem> Zeero, how do I do that please?
[08:50] <jmut> filgy: thank you
[08:50] <Zeero> Someone suggested it a while back.
[08:50] <melrockz> I got a problem with virtualbox 3.0.10; usb devices cannot be connected to the VM. Plz help.
[08:50] <skx> hm, is Ubuntu One working? I can't connect
[08:50] <duncan_> Zeero, I think the main reason for grub was that it has default support for ext4, support for it in 1.5 was hacked in if I remember
[08:50] <cviorel> And4713[LT], you should try fsck...
[08:50] <thedude42> melrockz, did you download virtualbox from Sun's site?
[08:50] <melrockz> yes
[08:50] <duncan_> Zeero, grub 2 that is
[08:50] <Admiral-Awesome> I have problems with ubuntu one aswel
[08:51] <thedude42> melrockz, how did you configure USB?
[08:51] <LexR> is there a gui app to add/remove grub2 entries? if there is, you can simply install it from the repo and add xp manually from there.
[08:51] <And4713[LT]> cviorel, it said the partitions were clean
[08:51] <melrockz> ?
[08:51] <Zeero> samekhmem: Open up Synaptic and search for alsa. See if you have any packages installed for it.
[08:51] <helpme> i need help. 9.10 64 bit installed and was working fine till reboot. now it has a white box with mark@mark-desktop:$... not sure what to do
[08:52] <omar> Why didn't Firefox 3.5.4  hit the repos yet?
[08:52] <Zeero> And to the rest of you: Well...I have an upgrade...so I don't get to notice anything different.
[08:52] <thedude42> melrockz, at some point during the creation of the VM you would have had to tell it what devices to use on the USB bus
[08:52] <Azeotrope> I have a special terminal profile for irssi and I want to make a shortcut to quick access irssi in this profile. anyone can help me? geometry is 184x55 (or fullscreen)
[08:52] <duncan_> omar, too busy getting drunk after release? :p
[08:52] <melrockz> i didnt add any usb filters
[08:52] <helpme> karmic has serious bugs
[08:52] <Shwack> #unimatrix - looks like this problem has been around for lots of people and multiple releases :(
[08:52] <melrockz> even if i add, it doesnt work.
[08:52] <om26er1> helpme: you need serious help
[08:52] <omar> duncan_, what?
[08:52] <SunlessHalo> Zeero: my sound server worked well and is uptodate... it just didn't start today morning and since then It hasn't started yet
[08:53] <demetris_> i thing i fix it
[08:53] <demetris_> sudo update-grub
[08:53] <duncan_> omar, karmic release party, in all seriousness probably packaging and testing delays
[08:53] <helpme> i don't know what happened
[08:53] <LexR> demetris_, yeah, try that
[08:53] <thedude42> melrockz, is it a windows VM?
[08:53] <demetris_> Generating grub.cfg ...
[08:53] <demetris_> Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.31-14-generic
[08:53] <demetris_> Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-2.6.31-14-generic
[08:53] <omar> duncan_, I see.
[08:53] <demetris_> Found memtest86+ image: /boot/memtest86+.bin
[08:53] <demetris_> Found Microsoft Windows XP Professional on /dev/sda1
[08:53] <FloodBot3> demetris_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:53] <demetris_> done
[08:53] <melrockz> host ubuntu9.04 guest winXp
[08:53] <Zeero> Aha! I think I finally killed off all of the rogue Xubuntu stuff.
[08:53] <LexR> helpme, what happened?
[08:53] <filgy> melrockz: are you sure you are using vb from sun? the open source edition of vb that is in the ubuntu repos does not support usb devices in host machines iirc
[08:54] <examancer> demetris_: so, success?
[08:54] <Zeero> There was a usplash package that snuck its way onto my netbook, here.
[08:54] <Zeero> Sneaky little mouse.
[08:54] <melrockz> ya, the PUEL version
[08:54] <Zeero> Zeero has found you, yes.
[08:54] <StupidWeasel> Heh heh
[08:54] <helpme> i rebooted and there is a white terminal screen. i don't know what to type
[08:54] <Zeero> And now...he shall squash you!
[08:54] <demetris_> i have to reboot to check? or is there aother way?
[08:54] <Zeero> I'm going to make sure my boot is satisfactory, now.
[08:54] <Zeero> Back soon.
[08:54] <LexR> demetris_, reboot, and if there is windwos line at the bottom, you fixed it :)
[08:55] <LexR> helpme, what happened before reboot?
[08:55] <demetris_> ok i''ll be back
[08:55] <LexR> k
[08:55] <demetris_> thanks lexr!
[08:55] <Shwack> Does anyone know of the fix for youtube videos running very slow in fullscreen mode?
[08:55] <LexR> np :)
[08:55] <filgy> melrockz: sounds like a vb and not ubuntu issue then
[08:55] <duncan_> i'm really just waiting for 10.04, it seems they push alot of new software in between the LTSs to get them ready
[08:55] <helpme> nothing. everything was working. i updated flash and had to do some blacklist command to get usb wireless adapter working
[08:55] <ababa> hello i have a little problem with my mouse. for example if i want to create a new package in eclipse and if i click on finish to creat the package it dont work. or if i go to youtube and watch a non-hd video i cant click on pause or play. only if i watch hd videos i can click on those things. how to fix it?
[08:55] <helpme> was working fine until i rebooted and have this white screen
[08:55] <mozz^> onnect
[08:56] <ababa> i use ubuntu 9.10 on a dell latitude e5500
[08:56] <daleharvey> omg, I have a normal install
[08:56] <helpme> if i type exit it prompts me to log in.. after that it comes back
[08:56] <filgy> helpme: it sounds like gdm puked if it is booting straight to that terminal window with no window decorations
[08:57]  * Avash notifies about new channel #avash
[08:57] <And4713[LT]> cviorel, just retried it to be sure, filesystem is healthy
[08:57] <helpme> remedy? reinstall?
[08:58] <LexR> I did a clean install of kubuntu last night, and it went OK, but i did not have the time to test it thoroughly...
[08:58] <omar> duncan_, so it might take a couple days until the latest FF version is added to the repos?
[08:58] <filgy> helpme: maybe try typing 'sudo runlevel 3' in that terminal
[08:58] <duncan_> omar, yes
[08:58]  * Avash notifies about new channel #laptop
[08:58] <melrockz> so is there an IRC for virtualbox? I cant find one...
[08:58] <cviorel> And4713[LT], do you have some hard drive compatibility settings in your computer's bios?
[08:58] <filgy> helpme: that should drop you to straight command line.. login there as your user and try typing startx
[08:59] <daleharvey> one problem
[08:59] <daleharvey> wireless doesnt work without acpi :(
[08:59]  * Avash notifies about new channel #laptop
[08:59] <LexR> I only installed kubuntu because it has kmix with many channels in sound mixer, and ubuntu has a new one which I do not like. I use front mic, and i need to set it working, I don't know how in this new one :)
[08:59] <And4713[LT]> cviorel, I dont see how those would be relevant, it has worked perfectly for the last 2 releases
[09:00] <helpme> no such file or dir
[09:00] <cviorel> And4713[LT], yeap, I know, same here, but maybe thy broke something on the way :)
[09:00] <melrockz> I got a problem with virtualbox 3.0.10; usb devices cannot be connected to the VM. Plz help.
[09:01] <alabd> Will ubuntu team (canonical) help to write a typographic book in other languages ??  like give some sources and materials for some parts of book ? or money for printing it ? is here a member from canonical ?
[09:01] <helpme> i guess i will just reinstall and hope they send out a patch soon
[09:01] <And4713[LT]> cviorel, I t has something to do with that one in particular since both / and /var mount just fine
[09:01] <filgy> helpme: something sounds mighty messed up then.. could be hardware failure.. i'd suggest trying to reinstall if you don't have any data to lose
[09:01] <shadypixie3> anyway to change treble/bass/etc in PulseAudio?
[09:01] <helpme> i think they rushed karmic. this seems like a beta
[09:02] <helpme> have all data on separate hdd
[09:02] <RussellAlan> the release seems more beta then the pre releases
[09:02] <Brent> anyone free to help me with a sli question?
[09:02] <filgy> helpme: if those commands are not found then i'm assuming the system is not booting properly at all.. could be hd corruption.. could be a million other things
[09:02] <kankan_> facing big problem with logging in ..
[09:03] <ActionParsnip1> !ask | Brent
[09:03] <kankan_> getting a blank screen..
[09:03] <Kartagis> I did sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade but Firefox still shows me 9.04 homepage
[09:03] <cviorel> And4713[LT], some people managed to resolve their issue http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1301766
[09:03] <cviorel> And4713[LT], didn't work for me :(
[09:03] <filgy> Kartagis: first off.. NEVER do a release upgrade via apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:03] <jcdutton> helpme, Can you log in ?
[09:03] <jimbeam12> hi
[09:03] <ActionParsnip1> Kartagis: change it to 9.10 if it bothers you
[09:03] <helpme> i just spent like an hour tweaking everything the way i liked it then rebooted now this... i'm gonna try one more time before reverting to 9.04
[09:03] <Brent> !ask
[09:03] <And4713[LT]> cviorel, Ill take a look see
[09:04] <helpme> i canlog in but it takes me to the terminal window
[09:04] <demetris_> hi am back
[09:04] <filgy> helpme: so you are getting the normal graphical login screen?
[09:04] <jimbeam12> does anyone know a program thats monitors the quads cpu usage and temperatures for each core...
[09:04] <helpme> if i type exit it promps login splash screen
[09:04] <demetris_> win xp are ok
[09:04] <helpme> yes
[09:04] <bigon> hi, I'm trying to install karmic on machine with intel wifi (that need iwlang) and it seems that the module is not on the installer
[09:04] <ActionParsnip1> jimbeam12: lm-sensors
[09:04] <jimbeam12> hey action
[09:04] <jimbeam12> tried that ..
[09:04] <demetris_> grub2 is fixed
[09:05] <Brent> I have 2x geforce 7800 gts. after i installed the nvidia drive (185), i get no signal when ubuntu boots up. to fix it, i took one of the video cards out, and everything worked fine. how would i get a signal with both cards in, then enable sli?
[09:05] <filgy> helpme: try changing your default desktop or session or whatever it is labeled at the login screen for your user
[09:05] <Brianetta> Morning.  Is anybody else having trouble with Compiz on an ATI card after upgrading?  I have a white screen.  Metacity with compositing works fine.
[09:05] <demetris_> but i ask why they use beta versions especially on bootloaders
[09:05] <jcdutton> helpme, it sounds like you window manager is not configured correctly.
[09:05] <jimbeam12> it only shows me the temperatures of my graphics cards
[09:05] <JGodbout> I have a fairly fresh install of 9.04 (a month or so old) which is working pretty nicely. Is there much chance that upgrading (not reinstalling) to 9.10 will cause any problems? The word on the street is that upgrading isn't as reliable as reinstalling.
[09:05] <ActionParsnip1> jimbeam12: did you run: sudo sensors-detect
[09:05] <jimbeam12> hmm ok let me check
[09:05] <helpme> i did dl compiz and configure the cube
[09:05] <jcdutton> helpme, at the login screen, enter your username but not your password. You should then get a choice of window managers
[09:05] <helpme> dunno if there is a conflict there
[09:05] <ActionParsnip1> jimbeam12: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2780
[09:05] <kankan_> having problem with GRUB..
[09:06] <filgy> helpme: sounds like that is the problem then
[09:06] <Fayd> hi....can anyone help me with setting up a bootloader for an installed ubuntu?
[09:06] <LexR> helpme, did you set autologin?
[09:06] <kankan_> how to downgrade?
[09:06] <helpme> yes
[09:06] <ActionParsnip1> !downgrade | kankan_
[09:06] <helpme> autologin
[09:06] <And4713[LT]> cviorel, unfortunately I have seen this thread, although I will try to get any unfinished updates
[09:06] <iceroot> kankan_: reinstall
[09:06] <filgy> helpme: compiz may not support your video card.. or your video card may not be configured correctly ...
[09:06] <shadypixie3> anyway to change treble/bass/etc in PulseAudio?
[09:06] <helpme> it worked fine in 9.04
[09:07] <Kartagis> lsb_release -c
[09:07] <Kartagis> Codename:	jaunty
[09:07] <Shwack> Looking for help with flash videos running slow in fullscreen
[09:07] <LexR> maybe it is some config file in your home dir. try adding another user and login as that user, if it works, it is the settings of some sort possibly compiz. I had a simiral problem on kubuntu 9.04, fixed it by changing user name :) helpme
[09:07] <Brianetta> helpme: What's tyour video card?
[09:07] <kankan_> i am facing problem with logging in ,getting blank screen.is that a problem of new GRUB?
[09:07] <demetris_> is there a way i can install the last version of ati drivers that supported my grfx card on 9.10
[09:07] <ActionParsnip1> Shwack: have you installed and configured video drivers?
[09:07] <helpme> my wireless usb did also tho.. had to blacklist it for it to work in karmic
[09:07] <FiReSTaRT> just a quick announcement.. they fixed the flashplugin-nonfree and skype packages, so they're ready to dl :)
[09:07] <demetris_> current osd are not good
[09:07] <helpme> intel 945g
[09:07] <helpme> i think
[09:07] <Kartagis> dist-upgrade didn't work
[09:07] <helpme> its onboard
[09:07] <FiReSTaRT> elaboration: for karmic :)
[09:07] <ActionParsnip1> kankan_: the login screen is nothing to do with grub
[09:07] <Brianetta> Hmm
[09:07] <denubis> I have a query: I'm facing the same USB modem problems as in:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1232014 I upgraded to 9.10 today (which theoretically has the latest kernel?). I can connect successfuly on an older kernel, but not with the latest. The thread's suggestion (upgrade to the latest kernel) isn't all that useful as there isn't a stable version. What questions should I be asking to fix this problem? Also, how do I report that the default A
[09:07] <Shwack> actionparsnip1 yes - installed and tried newest version of flash
[09:08] <jimbeam12> hmm telling me unknow adapter ??? when i run lm sesors
[09:08] <normit08> hi all
[09:08] <Brianetta> Mine's an ATI Radeon 9800 Pro, and Compiz appears to be broken on that, too.
[09:08] <aprilhare> anyone notice tor in the repos is broken?
[09:08] <Fayd> I recently installed ubuntu alongside vista.   The bootmanager that ubuntu installed apparently isnt to be found.  I dont know which HDD it was installed to.  how do i configure either bootmgr in vista to recognize the ubuntu install, or install grub to the right drive?
[09:08] <filgy> Kartagis: upgrading to a new release via apt-get dist-upgrade has a HIGH chance of breaking your system.. do not try it
[09:08] <normit08> I solved the usb modem problem
[09:08] <kankan_> ActionParsnip1:so what cud be the prob?/
[09:08] <ActionParsnip1> Shwack: does: dpkg -l | grep flash; dpkg -l | grep gnash; dpkg -l | grep swf      ONLY output flashplugin-nonfree
[09:08] <denubis> normit08: how?
[09:09] <ActionParsnip1> kankan_: does it happen if you log on as another user?
[09:09] <kankan_> yes..
[09:09] <normit08> when you connect it, it will pop up as a cd drive. right click and safely remove then you can connect
[09:09] <filgy> Kartagis: you want to upgrade by doing apt-get install update-manager-core running sudo do-release-upgrade
[09:09] <Shwack> it returns flashplugin-isntaller and flashplugin-nonfree
[09:09] <helpme> i think it happened because i was praising the new release too much
[09:09] <And4713[LT]> cviorel, I have a question, which filesystem are you using for your /boot
[09:09] <normit08> it is a partial solution
[09:09] <helpme> reboot broke my system
[09:10] <demetris_> i need to install catalyst 9.3 on my 9.10 karmic
[09:10] <denubis> normit08: Gah. That's a hack... "safely remove" okay... is there a better fix that I can throw into fstab?
[09:10] <ActionParsnip1> kankan_: well thats interesting, so it wont be user settings as it happens to another user
[09:10] <demetris_> is that possible?
[09:10] <cviorel> And4713[LT], I am using EXT4 for all my partitions
[09:10] <normit08> if you can right a script to eject it automatically then you dont have to do it manually
[09:10] <sobersabre> hi.
[09:10] <ActionParsnip1> demetris_: then download it from www.ati.com and run it
[09:10] <sobersabre> I need help with nvidia card.
[09:10] <sobersabre> Ihave this card:
[09:10] <DigitalKiwi> normit08: writing a script is not the ubuntu way!
[09:10] <jcdutton> Fayd, dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc, the last config screen will tell you which device grub will install on.
[09:10] <LexR> demetris_, I think you can install newer version, 9.10 is out. I used 9.9 on jaunty
[09:11] <samekhmem> Please help. I have tried everything. I have -no- sound.
[09:11] <sobersabre> 05:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G71 [GeForce 7300 GS] (rev a1)
[09:11] <normit08> im looking fo a script as we speak
[09:11] <sobersabre> I have upgraded jaunty to karmic.
[09:11] <normit08> well as a said, it is a temporary solution
[09:11] <demetris_> lexr: where i can find it
[09:11] <And4713[LT]> cviorel, see I am using ext2 for /boot and then ext3 for / and /var, I wonder if that has something to do with it
[09:11] <kankan_> ActionParsnip1:i have only one use..it happens in karmic only
[09:11] <ActionParsnip1> sobersabre: ok, can you keep your text to 1 line, makes it easier to read
[09:11] <sobersabre> And nvidia doesn't work as now.
[09:11] <Shwack> ActionParsnip1: it returns flashplugin-installer and flashplugin-nonfree
[09:11] <danitetus> one question please... the repositories are overloaded??? They don't work!!
[09:11] <Fayd> jcdutton, do i do that from a liveCD?  as i can't boot into the installed ubuntu install right now
[09:11] <denubis> normit08: Right. Thank you for your assistance. I'll try your fix "safely remove" and report back. Thank you.
[09:11] <demetris_> 9.10 dont support 9600 pro!
[09:11] <ActionParsnip1> kankan_: boot to root recovery console and make a new user to test
[09:11] <sobersabre> ActionParsnip1: ok. I need to force rebuild the kernel driver, probably with dkms, but I don't know how to do this.
[09:11] <demetris_> or is?
[09:11] <normit08> anywho, my question is, with empathy i can see anyone in the people nearby thing
[09:11] <LexR> demetris_, you have two options: install fglrx from the repo (9.9) or download from ati site veriosn 9.10.
[09:12] <ActionParsnip1> Shwack: uninstall both, then install flashplugin-nonfree   only, you will need to close then reopen your browser
[09:12] <demetris_> lexr: does it support 9600 ?
[09:12] <sobersabre> how do I make my system build the nvidia driver ?
[09:12] <jcdutton> Fayd, yes, you can use the liveCD for that
[09:12] <daleharvey> ok, had to install alternative, how do I let make karmic login automatically?
[09:12]  * daleharvey the new login screen is nasty btw
[09:12] <normit08> but i must say this is a very nice release.
[09:12] <samekhmem> Please help. I have tried everything. I have -no- sound.
[09:12] <cviorel> And4713[LT], I am pretty sure is not an issue, this bug afects all filesystem types.... I also tried ext3, same behaviour
[09:12] <samekhmem> Please help. I have tried everything. I have -no- sound.
[09:12] <sobersabre> daleharvey: google up autologin
[09:12] <DigitalKiwi> daleharvey: really? it was getting mad reviews before
[09:12] <ActionParsnip1> sobersabre: what is the output of: lsb_release -c
[09:12] <sobersabre> and you have it in gdm settings.
[09:12] <Sinistrad> /Nick ki4cgp
[09:13] <samekhmem> Please help. I have tried everything. I have -no- sound.
[09:13] <LexR> demetris_, just a sec...
[09:13] <sobersabre> ActionParsnip1: karmic
[09:13] <Shwack> ActionParsnip1: I did this and it automatically selected flashplugin-installer to install with it.  I will uninstall both and try again making sure only flashplugin-nonfree is checked.  Brb.
[09:13] <Fayd> i found a piece of software called freebcd that claims to set up boot.ini to allow for other os's... but when i tell it to go to the linux partition, it doesn't work
[09:13] <normit08> Oh, is there a way i can make my wireless turn off with a keyboard shortcut
[09:13] <demetris_> ok
[09:13] <And4713[LT]> cviorel, yes but yours displayed the message and booted all the way, whereas mine did not finish booting
[09:13] <Fayd> do i need to install grub to the linux partition?
[09:13] <samekhmem> Please help. I have tried everything. I have -no- sound.
[09:13] <samekhmem> Please help. I have tried everything. I have -no- sound.
[09:13] <samekhmem> Please help. I have tried everything. I have -no- sound.
[09:13] <FloodBot3> samekhmem: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:13] <JGodbout> I have a fairly fresh install of 9.04 (a month or so old) which is working pretty nicely. Is there much chance that upgrading (not reinstalling) to 9.10 will cause any problems? The word on the street is that upgrading isn't as reliable as reinstalling.
[09:13] <DarkCore> guys
[09:13] <DarkCore> I have a quick question
[09:13] <rafiq>  a black shadow blocks my screen when many tabs are open..is there any way to fix it?
[09:13] <sobersabre> kernel: Linux computer 2.6.31-14-generic #48-Ubuntu SMP Fri Oct 16 14:04:26 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
[09:13] <samekhmem> I have no sound PLEASE HELP
[09:13] <ActionParsnip1> sobersabre: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install nvidia-185-modaliases nvidia-glx-185
[09:13] <cviorel> And4713[LT], yes. that's true
[09:13] <Coldhak> I started with the server version, and installed all the desktops(gnome, kde, xfce4, fluxbox, etc) over time. I no longer have a cdrom, but I want to get a fresh start.
[09:13] <DarkCore> How compatible with .NET is mono?
[09:13] <sobersabre> ActionParsnip1: trying...
[09:13] <nick> samekhmem: patience
[09:13] <Coldhak> how do I remove all that stuff?
[09:14] <daleharvey> cheers sobersabre
[09:14] <ActionParsnip1> Shwack: use the nonfree only, the installer package may be confusing stuff
[09:14] <LexR> demetris_, i dont think so, on amd's site, 9600 prompts 9.3 version. just download it and install it. it is a shell script, just run it as sudo and click next next finish :)
[09:14] <sobersabre> ActionParsnip1: Already installed.
[09:14] <Shwack> ActionParsnip1: Mark for removal or Mark for Complete Removal?
[09:14] <jcdutton> Fayd, use the livecd to reinstall grub-pc
[09:14] <DigitalKiwi> normit08: you sure you should be using ubuntu and not something else more suitable for what you seem to want in a system?
[09:14] <demetris_> LEXR: will do that!
[09:14] <demetris_> thanks man
[09:14] <LexR> i have 4650, it works like that :)
[09:14] <ActionParsnip1> sobersabre: then run: sudo apt-get --purge remove nvidia*; sudo apt-get --purge autoremove
[09:15] <LexR> you're welcome demetris_ :)
[09:15] <jcdutton> Fayd, it should automatically detect your linux and windows and them provide you with a grub boot menu to choose linux or windows
[09:15] <ActionParsnip1> sobersabre: then reboot, then rerun the command I gave
[09:15] <demetris_> reboot to linux!
[09:15] <demetris_> i hope i dont break anything
[09:15] <ActionParsnip1> Shwack: just use command line, less confusing
[09:15] <normit08> i definatly want ubuntu. all i want to be able to do is use the wireless slider. i have been using ubuntu for 2 years now
[09:15] <demetris_> fingers crossed
[09:15] <sobersabre> ActionParsnip1: I don't have to reboot, since the drivers are NOT present currently.
[09:15] <DigitalKiwi> normit08: k
[09:15] <LexR> keep ya fingers crossed at all times :-p
[09:15]  * Avash notifies every one who are fun lovers to join channe #avash which is truly a fun channel
[09:15] <Fayd> i'll try that now.
[09:16] <jcdutton> Fayd, it is possible that grub was not able to install on your HD. One reason is that there is not enough space in the boot sectors for it.
[09:16] <ActionParsnip1> sobersabre: fine, but they may be loaded, just not working. Your call
[09:16] <Shwack> ActionParsnip1: I am actually a complete linux noob.  I have been watching terminal intro videos but dont have complete confidence yet
[09:16] <billdozor> Coldhak: might be easier just to do a fresh install...i don't think there is a way to remove just xfce or things like that, as the xfce desktop is a pointer to all the packages that get installed
[09:16] <sobersabre> ActionParsnip1: NO, they're not loaded, lsmod doesn't show them.
[09:16] <Shwack> ActionParsnip1: I just got ubuntu this week :)
[09:16] <jcdutton> Fayd, a "fdisk -u -l /dev/sda" should tell you how much space there is. The first "start" should be 63 or above
[09:16] <billdozor> *without removing each of the packages individually
[09:16] <sobersabre> ActionParsnip1: are nvidia drivers supposed to be shown in lsmod when loaded ?
[09:16] <sobersabre> :)
[09:16] <helpme> at the login splash screen i have option to log into ubuntu or my main account. as soon as i authenticate it produces the terminal window and nothing else
[09:17] <bastid_raZor> Coldhak: you want just gnome?
[09:17] <Armageddon> I have a problem with my webcam, used to work on Jaunty now it doesn't on Karmic, any idea ?
[09:17] <Orangez> Does someone know how i can get my internal speaker to work?
[09:17] <DigitalKiwi> Shwack: terminal..intro..VIDEOS? I am pretty sure that's the most disgusting thing I've heard all week
[09:17] <sobersabre> OH! it builds finally!
[09:17] <sobersabre> :)
[09:17] <LexR> helpme, did you create a new user?
[09:17] <lowlycoder> how do i tell ubuntu, at gdm, to use .xession instead of gnome?
[09:17] <ActionParsnip1> Shwack: in terminal run: sudo apt-get --purge remove flashplugin-installer flashplugin-nonfree; sudo apt-get --purge autoremove; sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[09:17] <helpme> i created a user when i installed
[09:17] <Armageddon> lowlycoder: at login, there is that option
[09:17] <dto> lowlycoder: i think it's the session option at login bottom screen
[09:17] <ActionParsnip1> sobersabre: i believe so
[09:18] <Cantcme> hey guys im on windows 7 now and i want to shrink my partition so i can make room for ubuntu, problem is i can only shrink 1mb, anyone know of any programs that moves files located at the end of the partition to towards the start?
[09:18] <DigitalKiwi> Shwack: http://cb.vu/unixtoolbox.xhtml this is good
[09:18] <Shwack> DigitalKiwi: using the terminal has helped me with plenty sorry if I didn't use the correct terms
[09:18] <bastid_raZor> billdozor: there is a way, check out the !purekde and !puregnome factoids..
[09:18] <goodboy_> hello !my amule 2.2.6 kad firewalled how to do??
[09:18] <ActionParsnip1> sobersabre: yes it does
[09:18] <DigitalKiwi> Shwack: no I'm not against the terminal, I spend most of my time in one, I'm against the idea of videos showing how to use it
[09:18] <LexR> compiz probably broke, and it tries to start when you log in, thus the screen. Maybe I am mistaken.
[09:18] <Coldhak> bastid_razor: no, I want just what comes with the server version
[09:19] <helpme> i'm a noob. its prolly something i did when installing flash. frustrating because everything worked great till i decided to reboot
[09:19] <ActionParsnip1> Cantcme: a defrag may help, never resized personally. I always plan my partitions
[09:19] <billdozor> re bastide_raZor: good to know, thanks
[09:19] <Coldhak> i'm asking if there's an easy way to make the the install like-new, or if I've got to figure out how to get a cdrom.
[09:19] <lowlycoder> Armageddon , dto : I only see xterm, gnome, and gnome failsafe
[09:19] <Shwack> DigitalKiwi: lol - well surprisingly just seeing ls, ls -a,   running a program with ./       just those few things made all the diff
[09:19] <SunlessHalo> ActionParsnip1: please, my HDA Audio hasn't started since few last boots... how could I re-enable it?
[09:19] <DigitalKiwi> Shwack: http://omploader.org/vMjgyag
[09:19] <ActionParsnip1> SunlessHalo: ask the channel, not me
[09:19] <Armageddon> lowlycoder: do you have xsession installed ?
[09:19] <LexR> I cannot claim that is the problem, mine problem was similar on kde4, when I enabled compiz, it broke the similar way.
[09:19] <jonte> hi!when i am start the install of wubi it's came up windows-no disk why?
[09:20] <Cantcme> ActionParsnip1: yeh ive used the defragger built it in windows but it doesnt seem very good, so im about to try one by auslogic
[09:20] <sobersabre> ActionParsnip1: Thanks, man. the problem was as follows: the upgrade was interrupted in the middle. as a result I had to boot into single mode (with still jaunty kernel), and there to run dpkg --configure -a. then the drivers for the old kernel were built
[09:20] <ActionParsnip1> SunlessHalo: and in reply. I dont know how to resolve sound issues as Ive never had a single sound issue
[09:20] <ActionParsnip1> sobersabre: awesome
[09:20] <ActionParsnip1> sobersabre: glad you got the gold
[09:20] <helpme> now it won't install from the usb either
[09:20] <SunlessHalo> well... my issue is that my HDA Audio hasn't started since few last boots... how could I re-enable it?
[09:20] <Dada_> hey guys, does anyone know how I can install ubuntu without installing grub/lilo at all?
[09:20] <jonte> do you now wh
[09:21] <Armageddon> SunlessHalo: what version of ubuntu are you using ?
[09:21] <helpme> just sits there with a shiny ubuntu icon
[09:21] <Shwack> ActionParsnip1: I wish I knew all the commands you do
[09:21] <lowlycoder> is xsessin package lxsession?
[09:21] <sobersabre> ActionParsnip1: and then after reboot the karmic kernel had no drivers, and it started the annoying blinkage... so I had to do the dancing over ssh,
[09:21] <sobersabre> the --purge was the key thing.
[09:21] <sobersabre> thanks.
[09:21] <Coldhak> DaDa_, you could probably install a different bootloader, but as far as I know, you need to have one.
[09:21] <ActionParsnip1> Shwack: you'll learn what you need to know as you use the terminal
[09:21] <DigitalKiwi> Shwack: read that firrst link I gave you and you're off to a good start
[09:21] <LexR> Dada_, I dunno, I think you need a bootloader.
[09:21] <SunlessHalo> Dada_: if you are using the basic install CD, in last step you may press "advanced options" and "don't install boot loader"
[09:21] <Armageddon> Dada_: yes, when you install, the last phase, you get to choose if to or not install a bootloader
[09:21] <Dada_> Coldhak: I have one already, so I only need to prevent it from installing anything over it
[09:21] <helpme> gonna look for windows 7 disk
[09:21] <Dada_> ahh, okay
[09:21] <ActionParsnip1> sobersabre: --purge gets rid of the old config files that arent in ~
[09:22] <Dada_> Thanks
[09:22] <Shwack> ActionParsnip1: it just finished - testing now - fingers crossed
[09:22] <Shootfast> Hi folks, the ubuntu installer isnt detecting my hard disks correctly. It thinks theyre in a raid, and wont let me pick an individual disk
[09:22] <Armageddon> Dada_: why not ? the new grub works fine
[09:22]  * Dada_ uses chameleon boot loader
[09:22] <Armageddon> Dada_: ok
[09:22] <Dada_> because I also boot Mac OS X
[09:22] <Gunk> hi all, anybody had issues installing on virtualbox?
[09:22] <ActionParsnip1> Shwack: i'm sure theres some stuff you could show me in other OSs
[09:22] <Armageddon> Gunk: what's the issue ?
[09:22] <SunlessHalo> Armageddon: I'm using Kubuntu Karmic
[09:23] <LexR> :) how do you display that sort of a messge? (Dada_ uses chameleon boot loader)
[09:23] <SunlessHalo> up-to-date
[09:23] <Armageddon> SunlessHalo: and you have a problem with what exactly ?
[09:23] <Mowind> anyone had any luck enabling desktop effects on intel 82845G onboard?
[09:23] <Dada_> LexR: use /me blah blah
[09:23]  * Dada_ hello
[09:23] <LexR> thanx Dada_
[09:23]  * DigitalKiwi blah blah
[09:23] <Gunk> arma: i hope it's a rtfm issue, but everytime i choose install it seems to start up the live-cd
[09:23] <DigitalKiwi> by golly, it worked!
[09:23] <Gunk> i.e. i'm presented with a login screen
[09:23] <SunlessHalo> the sound used to be fine, except some crashes caused by amaroK
[09:24] <Armageddon> SunlessHalo: and now it doesn't work ?
[09:24] <Armageddon> are you using ALSA driver ?
[09:24] <Armageddon> Gunk: I don't quite get your problem
[09:24] <SunlessHalo> Armageddon: but, today morning the sound just didn't load... pulseaudio plays the system bell, but the main sound Inte HDA Realtek ALC660-VD doesn't work at all
[09:24] <Armageddon> !kubuntu | SunlessHalo
[09:25] <jimbeam12> hey action ran lm sensors and it didnt recognize the graphic card...(unknown adapter)
[09:25] <jack_spratt> Can someone help me connect my wireless from CLI??
[09:25] <SunlessHalo> Armageddon: I hardly suppose the problem could be treated differently
[09:25] <ActionParsnip1> jimbeam12: thats all i know dude. i don't use sensors
[09:25] <Gunk> with 9.04 if i chose install, the install would startup, i could choose location, disk, etc etc. There was no login screen
[09:25] <iceroot> jack_spratt: look at iwconfig
[09:25] <SunlessHalo> in the other channel
[09:25] <Armageddon> SunlessHalo: HDA is out from HDMI
[09:25] <Shwack> ActionParsnip1: Video playback in fullscreen is dramatically improved.  It only lags when moving my mouse around in circles.   Before if i did this it would take 5-10 seconds to recover after moving mouse in circles - now it takes about 1-2 seconds to recover.
[09:25] <jimbeam12> is there any other program i can use
[09:25] <jack_spratt> icreroot
[09:25] <Gunk> but with 9.10 i'm presented with a login box
[09:25] <Armageddon> SunlessHalo: I don't think it will work on your speakers if they are not plugged HDMI
[09:26] <NKjoep> got any problem with sun jdk and koala?
[09:26] <Gunk> before the install even begins
[09:26] <jack_spratt> iceroot: will that change the way it connects once I get back into gui? I just want to connect temporarily and not mess up my existing configuration for gui
[09:26] <ActionParsnip1> Shwack: yeah the installer packge is a bit weird in my experience. Ipersonally use the native 64bit plugin (which is alpha) but runs well
[09:26] <iceroot> NKjoep: why should it?
[09:26] <Jahithber> i have read about new 9.10 that will starts faster than 9.04 :P
[09:26] <Armageddon> Gunk: login screen where you put your password and stuff, there is an option there to choose which DE to login into
[09:26] <kankan_> after selecting ubuntu 9.10 from grub menu .when i hit enter after sometime the screen gets blank.
[09:26] <Jahithber> but its starting slower after update
[09:26] <Jahithber> :p
[09:26] <LexR> old sound app was waaaay better.
[09:26] <SunlessHalo> Armageddon: I am using centrino1duo asus laptop, the HDA was responsible for all sound
[09:26] <iceroot> jack_spratt: dont think so
[09:26] <Shwack> ActionParsnip1: it hardly seems right for a HT 3.4 Ghz with 2gigs ram and nvidia 8800 to be stuttering at all though
[09:26] <Armageddon> SunlessHalo: I'd try another option then the HDA
[09:26] <NKjoep> iceroot: every time i click a "cancel" button... eclipse simply die....
[09:26] <ActionParsnip1> Shwack: flash sucks
[09:27] <g33k> apache2-ssl-certificate: command not found, need help apache2-commons installed
[09:27] <Shwack> ActionParsnip1: as somebody who never stopped writing html in notepad.exe, i agree
[09:27] <dto> should i install chromium?
[09:27] <Armageddon> SunlessHalo: try internal audio
[09:27] <SunlessHalo> Armageddon: explain me, please
[09:27] <jack_spratt> iceroot: thanks :)
[09:27]  * DigitalKiwi hands SunlessHalo a 'to'
[09:27] <Brianetta> Right, my problem is that I'm running a software OpenGL emulator.  Can anybody hint as to why that might be?
[09:27] <Shwack> ActionParsnip1: But, I can watch my videos now thanks to you.  Thank you very much.
[09:28] <Armageddon> SunlessHalo: well I use gnome so it is fairly different that's why you need people using KDE to help, BUT on gnome, I go to sound preferences, I choose Hardware and I choose which one to use
[09:28] <ActionParsnip1> Shwack: well its proprietary to adobe so it can only be improved by adobe so you re screwed unless you use the open alternatives that dont implement some functionality in the adobe flash
[09:28] <Armageddon> SunlessHalo: I have an internal Audio and an HDMI one
[09:28] <Gunk> all i see is a coffee coloured screen with a the ubuntu logo and a login button beneath it, this is the first thing i see after pressing install at the cd-boot menu
[09:28] <ActionParsnip1> s/re/are
[09:28] <SunlessHalo> ok,
[09:28]  * SunlessHalo switches to gnome now
[09:28] <Armageddon> SunlessHalo: with inputs and outputs
[09:28] <kankan_> serious problem!! getting blank screen after logging in.
[09:28] <samekhmem> My Sound Icon is gone. When I try to access Sound Preferences I get "Waiting for sound system to respond" and I have NO audio at all. PLEASE HELP!!!
[09:28] <Armageddon> :/
[09:29] <Armageddon> samekhmem: which version of ubuntu ?
[09:29] <DigitalKiwi> he needs more screen + irssi
[09:29] <samekhmem> Armageddon, 9.10
[09:29] <nimrod0> !help
[09:29] <Shwack> ActionParsnip1: I'm fine with that - I'm loving linux and the open source scene and would rather throw up than go back to windows.
[09:29] <Armageddon> samekhmem: did you update
[09:29] <samekhmem> Armageddon,  apt-get update? yes
[09:29] <ActionParsnip1> Shwack: same, except my work lappy is XP
[09:29] <Armageddon> samekhmem: apt-get upgrade too
[09:30] <Shwack> XP is nice - Vista pushed me to try linux and i'm glad i did
[09:30] <samekhmem> Armageddon, did that
[09:30] <Shwack> Vista was on par with mac
[09:30] <ActionParsnip1> Shwack: random BSODs in 2000 I couldnt diagnose pushed me to linux
[09:30] <Armageddon> samekhmem: try opening the hardware Drivers does it open ?
[09:30] <samekhmem> Armageddon, yes, and it lists a video card.
[09:31] <billdozor> Is apt-get autoremove safe to do?
[09:31] <Armageddon> did you install that ?
[09:31] <Shwack> ActionParsnip1: I'll admit watching a youtube video of the Cube is what sealed the deal.... lol
[09:31] <Armageddon> samekhmem: did you install that ?
[09:31] <Armageddon> billdozor: yes
[09:31] <And4713[LT]> cviorel, same story when mounting it as ext3 the question is why only the /boot partition, grub isnt complaining about it
[09:31] <samekhmem> Armageddon, yes. it was effortless, I installed it while trying to get audio working
[09:31] <ActionParsnip1> Shwack: i hate the cube, LXDE baby
[09:31] <DigitalKiwi> Shwack: ;_; if you mean the compiz cube...
[09:31] <jimbeam12> sensors detect generates this report as follows..... #modprobe unknown adapter NVIDIA i2c adapter
[09:31] <DigitalKiwi> lxde is not that nice
[09:31] <Armageddon> samekhmem: did you restart after installing all updates and drivers ?
[09:31] <stoned> cr
[09:31] <samekhmem> Armageddon, I opened up hardware drivers and it asked if i wanted to upgrade to proprietary drivers
[09:31] <samekhmem> Armageddon, i did
[09:32] <samekhmem> Armageddon, i have multiple times during this ordeal
[09:32] <Armageddon> samekhmem: and the sound still doesn't work ?
[09:32]  * SunlessHalo re on gnome
[09:32] <Vegar> how on earth do you disable the password prompt on resume from suspend?
[09:32] <SunlessHalo> Armageddon: what shall I also do now?
[09:32] <Armageddon> samekhmem: did you try opening the sound options ?
[09:32] <samekhmem> Armageddon, worse, I can't even access the sound preferences anymore. I get, "waiting for sound to respond"
[09:32] <SunlessHalo> gnome didn't even play the system bell :\
[09:32] <Armageddon> SunlessHalo: right click on the sound button, go to preferences
[09:32] <jrib> Vegar: there used to be some gconf options
[09:32] <Armageddon> samekhmem: weird...
[09:32] <samekhmem> Armageddon, tell - me - about - it.
[09:33] <Vegar> jrib: they don't seem to work anymore since I upgraded to karmic
[09:33] <Shwack> DigitalKiwi and ActionParsnip1: I don't understand how you can not like the cube.  I dont spin it around with my mouse, I just enjoy the transition to other desktops if i click them.
[09:33] <Armageddon> samekhmem: don't worry I also have problems that I can't solve till now ;)
[09:33] <samekhmem> Armageddon, I've been at this for HOURS
[09:33] <samekhmem> Armageddon,  :D
[09:33] <Armageddon> I've been at this for months samekhmem
[09:33] <samekhmem> Armageddon, lol
[09:33] <Armageddon> samekhmem: no bluetooth, can't shutdown, and no cam
[09:33] <ActionParsnip1> Shwack: i use ctrl+alt+ left or right and it switches instantly
[09:33] <samekhmem> Armageddon, omg
[09:33] <SunlessHalo> fok
[09:33] <drygr> Shwack, what cube do you speak of
[09:33] <Armageddon> samekhmem: but I love linux too much
[09:33] <SunlessHalo> it works now
[09:33] <illusion> hi i need to boot my ubuntu 9.10 iso file from grub i dont have cd drive or usbstick can you help me ?
[09:33] <Armageddon> SunlessHalo: yes ?
[09:33] <Armageddon> SunlessHalo: see !
[09:34] <Shwack> ActionParsnip1:  Ctrl + Alt + left and right is niiiiiice
[09:34] <samekhmem> Armageddon, I love it too. And I am a big supporter of Ubuntu. I'm South African, like Mark Shuttleworth...
[09:34] <SunlessHalo> well, not sure if it will work back on kde as well :\
[09:34] <Shwack> ActionParsnip1: That's exactly the feel I like... a very quick transition.
[09:34] <Armageddon> illusion: grub is a bootloader, I don't think you can boot a non operating system with it
[09:34] <Shwack> ActionParsnip1: What is lxde?
[09:34] <Armageddon> illusion: unless I'm wrong
[09:34] <samekhmem> Armageddon, can't help me?
[09:34] <illusion> Aragon: http://pastebin.ca/1649031
[09:34] <ActionParsnip1> Shwack: but you have an animation to run for it which takes time
[09:34] <Armageddon> samekhmem: sorry mate, I have no idea !
[09:34] <ActionParsnip1> !info lxde | Shwack
[09:34] <DigitalKiwi> Shwack: I use awesome wm, vim, arch linux, lua, urxvt, irssi + screen, mpd + ncmpcpp, htop, and 90% of my time and work is spent in a terminal, that should pretty much sum up why I dislike compiz
[09:34] <illusion> Armageddon: http://pastebin.ca/1649031
[09:34] <samekhmem> reinstall fuck this shit
[09:35] <Armageddon> lol
[09:35] <Armageddon> I like that guy
[09:35] <illusion> but i got error from casper init error something ..
[09:35] <Armageddon> illusion: opening
[09:35] <DigitalKiwi> Armageddon: wrong, you can boot isos from grub
[09:35] <ActionParsnip1> Shwack: http://vavai.com/v2/wp-content/uploads/lxde.jpeg
[09:35] <Armageddon> DigitalKiwi: then I'm wrong, live and learn :) illusion you can
[09:36] <mrkwagga> Heya guys, what can I do if xrandr says "Can't Open Display" - since all the standard methods dont work. (dpkg-reconfigure, xorg.conf)
[09:36] <Armageddon> DigitalKiwi: if you have any idea how, can you help illusion ?
[09:36] <DigitalKiwi> ActionParsnip1: you do know lxde is just openbox with a few crappy apps (though there are one or two nice ones) right?
[09:36] <Shwack> DigitalKiwi - It's not that I wouldn't love to spend all my time in a terminal.  I dream about encryption algorithms at night... it's just that I've been using linux for exactly 4 days now and I'm soaking it all up with the GUI cuz there's just too much to try and not enough time to learn the commands :)
[09:36] <Coldhak> is there a way to revert the system back to default settings?
[09:36] <ActionParsnip1> DigitalKiwi: indeed
[09:36] <illusion> Armageddon: i have 2 hard drive i extract the iso image to second hard drive and configure grub to boot from vmzlinuz in 2 hard but i got casper error
[09:36] <DigitalKiwi> Armageddon: I've mever personally done it and the only person I know of to have done it (though I'm sure others have) is not online atm
[09:37] <JamesD1> I can't get 9.04 to upgrade from the 9.10 alternate iso.  I mount it and no upgrade dialog appears. :(
[09:37] <illusion> Armageddon: caper guive me this error : cant read /dev/sr0
[09:37] <SunlessHalo> Armageddon: you were right, it's a kde issue, but I can't fix it yet :(
[09:37] <Armageddon> JamesD1: add the CDRom into Software source, apt-get update and then use apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:38] <JamesD1> ok
[09:38] <SunlessHalo> gnome worked fine on defaults...
[09:38] <Armageddon> SunlessHalo: it might be the same problem with KDE, change the driver you are using on KDE into another one
[09:38] <Kartagis> do I need extra space while upgrading?
[09:38] <Armageddon> Kartagis: probably
[09:38] <billdozor> shoudl tell you how much will be downloaded
[09:38] <ActionParsnip1> JamesD1: mount the CD then run: gksu "sh /media/cdrom0/cdromupgrade"
[09:39] <Armageddon> illusion: this might help http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies-archive.cfm/925285.html
[09:39] <ActionParsnip1> JamesD1: it won't autorun for you, you have to kick off the script
[09:39] <illusion> Armageddon: thnx i will try it
[09:39] <Shwack> ActionParsnip1:    !info lxde |    returns dpkg -l | grep flash; dpkg -l | grep gnash; dpkg -l | grep swf
[09:39] <Shwack> woops
[09:39] <Armageddon> illusion: wait
[09:39] <tom05> only in english ?  how join a french canal ?
[09:39] <Shwack> Actionparsnip1: it returns  info lxde lxde | Shwack lxde | lxde |
[09:39] <DigitalKiwi> ActionParsnip1: if you know that then why do you promote it ;_; just promote openbox plus the few nice things lxde does right (lxapperance, using pcmanfm, -possibly- gpicview I can't remember) and various other light programs
[09:39] <illusion> Armageddon: ok
[09:39] <Armageddon> illusion: this might help also http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/booting-of-raw-iso-from-grublilo-though-preferably-grub-367901/
[09:40] <ActionParsnip1> DigitalKiwi: as i am a small contributor to Lubuntu :D
[09:40] <DigitalKiwi> pfft
[09:40] <ActionParsnip1> DigitalKiwi: don't forget lxpanel
[09:40] <Armageddon> I've never heard of Lubuntu
[09:40] <duncan_> what is a good ntp server?
[09:40] <DigitalKiwi> sucks
[09:40] <ActionParsnip1> !lubuntu
[09:40] <JamesD1> ActionParsnip1: Thanks! :D
[09:40] <DigitalKiwi> I didn't forget it, it's not good ;D
[09:41] <ubnew> hi!
[09:41] <ActionParsnip1> Armageddon: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu   soon to be official release using LXDE
[09:41] <Shwack> I like it
[09:41] <Armageddon> well soon to be official doesn't mean it is known yet
[09:41] <ActionParsnip1> Armageddon: who said it was known?
[09:41] <Shwack> ActionParsnip1: It looks good - can you help me out with the !info command? i couldn't get it to work
[09:41] <nimrod0> is there a hardware compatibility list for ubuntu ?
[09:41] <Armageddon> ActionParsnip1: I've been using gnome and I like it so far ! tried everything and came back to Gnome
[09:41] <ActionParsnip1> !hcl | nimrod0
[09:42] <Armageddon> nimrod0: like what ?
[09:42] <ubnew> I've updated my pc to ubutnu 9.10. Unfortunately, I ran into the madwifi problem. I've got an atheros AR5001 adapter and don't know how to get it run. Can you help me?
[09:42] <DigitalKiwi> great, another less than nice offshoot of debian added to the world, how nice
[09:43] <StrangeCharm> what's the command to start the ubuntu-desktop interface
[09:43] <ActionParsnip1> Shwack: you can use !info to get info on a package
[09:43] <And4713[LT]> cviorel, OH MY GOD HAHA, guess what, the mount point isnt empty
[09:43] <ActionParsnip1> StrangeCharm: startx
[09:43] <Sonja> what version of ruby does Koala let you install?
[09:44] <Shwack> Actionparsnip: so  I could type  !info flashplugin_nonfree
[09:44] <Alvinware> Can i uncheck the 'AT SPI Registry Wrapper' in start-up manager?
[09:44] <bigmack83_> im using devede to convert avi files to burn onto a dvd for use in a standard dvd player. each avi is 170mb but when i add them devede only lets me put 4 epidoes in before it says a 4.7gb dvd is full. but once i burn the .sio with the 4 episodes the iso is only 1.5gb . how can i make it so i can put more episodes on thedvd?
[09:44] <Sonja> is the next ubuntu going to be called Lunatic Llama?
[09:44] <Armageddon> Sonja: 1.9
[09:44] <Armageddon> Sonja: and 1.8
[09:44] <Sonja> Armageddon awesome 1.9!
[09:44] <solsTiCe> hi. is it normal the white glowing ubuntu logo stays so long there when i try to install ? or my cd is wrong (=> Trash)
[09:44] <TheJosh> is the keyserer down at the moment? I'm trying to add a key for a PPA, and its timing out
[09:44] <grawity> TheJosh: It's been down for most of the last two months, IIRC.
[09:44] <Gnea> !10.04
[09:44] <Armageddon> and 4.2, Sonja
[09:44] <bigmack83_> i should be able to put 12 avi's on one disc
[09:45] <grawity> TheJosh: Submit the key to any SKS keyserver - pool.sks-keyserver.net - and hope they'll sync soon.
[09:45] <Sonja> Armageddon 4.2  of what?
[09:45] <Armageddon> bigmack83_: depending on the space
[09:45] <TheJosh> grawity, No I want to use a PPA
[09:45] <Sonja> thanks gnea
[09:45] <bigmack83_> Armageddon, depending on the space?
[09:45] <ActionParsnip1> bigmack83_: not if each AVI is 1Tb in size
[09:45] <Armageddon> Sonja: an interpreter :/ no idea ! but it depends on ruby 1.8
[09:46] <Armageddon> bigmack83_: how big the avi are
[09:46] <bigmack83_> the avi's are only 170mb each, the dvd is a 4.7
[09:46] <Sonja> Armageddon ok cool! <3
[09:46] <grawity> TheJosh: keyserver.ubuntu.com is linked to pool.sks-keyservers.net; they have the same keys.
[09:46] <Armageddon> bigmack83_: should work
[09:46] <bigmack83_> ActionParsnip1, 1Tb ? :/
[09:46] <grawity> TheJosh: If you want to retrieve a key, it'll work too.
[09:46] <Armageddon> bigmack83_: 1 TeraByte
[09:46] <bigmack83_> Armageddon, yea but after i put 4 into devede it says disc is 98% full and cant put anymore
[09:46] <Armageddon> bigmack83_: that's 1024GB
[09:47] <TheJosh> grawity, so why hasn't launchpad been updated? that's a bit dumb.
[09:47] <ActionParsnip1> bigmack83_: indeed, if the videos are massive then you will fit most likely 0, therfe is no "should" about it, its all about data size
[09:47] <bigmack83_> Armageddon, i know what 1 tb is, i was being sarcastic as there is no way my avi file is 1 tb
[09:47] <Armageddon> bigmack83_: are you sure you chose 4.7GB dvd ?
[09:47] <bigmack83_> yea
[09:47] <Armageddon> bigmack83_: there are small DVDs
[09:47] <duncan_> i'm so glad i'm not running ubuntu on a 200mhz machine, added packages for openWRT on my router takes forever
[09:47] <bigmack83_> it shows the 4.7 dvd format is selected
[09:47] <bigmack83_> ActionParsnip1, no the avi's are only 170mb
[09:47] <grawity> TheJosh: Dunno. Lazy sysadmins?
[09:47] <Armageddon> bigmack83_: try using GnomeBaker or Brasero
[09:48] <TheJosh> grawity, Thanks.
[09:48] <bigmack83_> brasero will burn avi's into a format for dvd player?
[09:48] <xs> hi. is there documentation for ubuntu for people who are very familiar with linux? i cannot find anything via google or on ubuntu.com.
[09:48] <Armageddon> bigmack83_: should do so
[09:48] <Armageddon> bigmack83_: what format does the DVD player read ?
[09:48] <ActionParsnip1> bigmack83_: if each is 170Mb you can fit 19, I suggest you use Devede
[09:48] <TheJosh> Has anyone here installed the BFS+BFQ patches for the kernel (i.e. https://launchpad.net/~darxus/+archive/bfsbfq) ?? Had any problems?
[09:48] <bigmack83_> im using devede becuase it has to convert the avi's into mpeg for dvd compatibility
[09:49] <_PiLoT_> can anyone let me know how severly the postal strike will affect the shipping of the ubuntu cds
[09:49] <Salvad> Can someone plese tell me the version of Evince that comes with Ubuntu 9.04?
[09:49] <bigmack83_> ActionParsnip1, i am using devede, thats whats only letting me put 4 on one disc. after i put 4 in the box it says 98% full
[09:49] <Armageddon> Salvad: 9.04 or 9.10 ?
[09:49] <xs> _PiLoT_: the variance is high on delays: i've had stuff next day and stuff delayed by 2 weeks.
[09:49] <ActionParsnip1> bigmack83_: devede can fit more videos than that too but it will reduce quality
[09:49] <Salvad> The 9.04 one.
[09:49] <bigmack83_> Armageddon, mpeg4 i believe
[09:49] <_PiLoT_> why does it dsay 4 to ten weeks
[09:49] <ActionParsnip1> bigmack83_: click adjust size
[09:49] <courpse> How to make squirrelmail read from sql server?
[09:49] <Armageddon> bigmack83_: it is converting them before burning ?
[09:50] <ActionParsnip1> bigmack83_: have a chapter for each video
[09:50] <Shwack> ActionParsnip1: I try typing !info lxde l  and its coming up with a whole bunch of stuff a reallllly long list
[09:50] <Armageddon> bigmack83_: well of course it will take more space :/
[09:50] <Salvad> I upgraded to 9.10 and some parts of PDFs are ilegible.
[09:50] <ActionParsnip1> Shwack: !info is an irc command
[09:50] <bruteforce> hey ppl. :) just installed karmic :D empathy doesn't support musictracker :D
[09:50] <TheJosh> Salvad: http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[09:50] <Shwack> ActionParsnip1: lolllllll
[09:50] <bruteforce> can someone help? :S
[09:50] <bigmack83_> ActionParsnip1, yea but thats what i dont get, i do set chapter per video, yes it converts them before burning
[09:50] <Shwack> !info lxde | Shwack
[09:50] <mikunos> hi guys I need to create a VPN connection PPTP. I have installed the OpenVPN and the Cisco VPN as described here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VPN
[09:50] <darkfig> hi
[09:50] <om26er1> bruteforce: empathy lack many features that u can't imagine
[09:50] <Shwack> sigh
[09:50] <bigmack83_> Armageddon, i know it will take more space, but the finished dvd is only 1.5 gb
[09:51] <Armageddon> bigmack83_: well chapters and stuff put up more space, then convertion will take more space, of course it will be around 90%
[09:51] <bigmack83_> so i know i can put more data on the iso
[09:51] <mikunos> I have tried to create a new connection but the Apply button remain disabled
[09:51] <ActionParsnip1> bigmack83_: maybe it needs reinstalling, you could also try deleting ~/.devede
[09:51] <mikunos> why?!?!
[09:51] <bruteforce> om26er1: sad. so i install pidgin to get those features? back???
[09:51] <Armageddon> bigmack83_: I'm lost dude !
[09:51] <coz_> hey guys... many years with linux and I have not tested this...if I put in another video card  after installing ubuntu...will ubunt pick up on the new card or will I have to install?
[09:51] <bigmack83_> ActionParsnip1, i have tried that
[09:51] <duncan_> what was the reason for adopting empathy before it had feature parity?
[09:51] <Shwack> ubottu thx
[09:51] <_PiLoT_> ha
[09:51] <TheJosh> ubottu, thank you
[09:51]  * Shwack .
[09:52] <Armageddon> did Shwack just thank a bot ?
[09:52] <_PiLoT_> yes he did
[09:52] <om26er1> bruteforce: me to
[09:52] <Armageddon> :/
[09:52] <Armageddon> hehe
[09:52] <_PiLoT_> yup
[09:52] <bruteforce> om26er1: sad, but thanks for your help bro :)
[09:52] <Shwack> Armageddon actually i thought I typed the command wrong and somebody did it for me lol
[09:52] <quiescens> bots have feelings too ):
[09:52] <TheJosh> Armageddon, he is very helpful, or is it she is very helpful
[09:52] <darkfig> I did the last xorg update ... I checked this thread (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=240957) but apt-get don't find the package "xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10". I guess my sources.list is bad..
[09:52] <Armageddon> TheJosh: either way we all love ubottu
[09:52] <om26er1> bruteforce: empathy will improve in its next major release . it what they say
[09:52] <_PiLoT_> yeah i thinks the bot should have the thx command respod with your welcome
[09:53] <Armageddon> darkfig: try apt-cache search xserver-xort-core
[09:53] <Shwack> Armageddon this is my first time using irc so plz ignore my noob
[09:53] <TheJosh> Armageddon, I gotta go, gotta restart with a new kernel (BFS!)
[09:53] <grawity> _PiLoT_: why should it, "thx" is not even a word.
[09:53] <steakunderscore> Has anyone had problems with LVM and ubuntu 9.10?
[09:53] <_PiLoT_> because gravity
[09:53] <Armageddon> Shwack: no need dude, we are just having fun ;)
[09:53] <_PiLoT_> common courtisy is a must in this dy and age
[09:54] <darkfig> Armageddon, yes but this give me the last version
[09:54] <grawity> And because people on IRC don't know how to spell...
[09:54] <xs> is ubuntu only suitable for people unfamiliar with linux?
[09:54] <_PiLoT_> taht aswell
[09:54] <Shwack> Armageddon: hey btw can anybody here tell me if linux needs any special packages for firewalls / virus tools?
[09:54] <Armageddon> xs: no
[09:54] <_PiLoT_> lol
[09:54] <jrib> xs: nope, suitable for people familiar with linux as well...
[09:54] <Armageddon> xs: it is suitable to everyone from noobs to advanced users
[09:54] <duncan_> xs, negative, I switched from arch to ubuntu
[09:54] <mrwes> Shwack, no
[09:54] <Armageddon> duncan_: probably burned a couple of VGA's and a dozen of CPUs
[09:55] <_PiLoT_> so grawity, you think making the bot correct grammar would be a better way of doing stuff?
[09:55] <Armageddon> and melted the moterboard twice
[09:55]  * Shwack remembers windows + zone alarm + virus program and then nuts his pants
[09:55] <xs> duncan_: don't you find the documentation very annoying?
[09:55] <Armageddon> Shwack: and you should remember that the computer will stop working also
[09:55] <bigmack83_> Armageddon ActionParsnip1 ok. i have a 4.7 dvd and 170 mb avi files. i put them into devede and after 4 avi's it says 98% full for a 4.7 dvd. i have tried a chapter for each avi as well as 1 chapter for all avi's, and same result. even though it claims the 4.7 is full with these 4 170mb videos, after it converts them the final iso is only 1.5 gb. so i know it somehow *should* be able to but at least 12 videos per dvd. i know avi -> m
[09:55] <bigmack83_> peg4 will get larger but not That much that i can only put 4 per dvd.
[09:55] <Shwack> Armageddon blue screens of death
[09:55] <Armageddon> Shwack: what do you need with a firewall ?
[09:55] <mrwes> Shwack, Ubuntu comes with a firewall called ufw and the graphical interface is called Gufw. As for AV, there's really no need, unless you're sharing files to and from a Windows box
[09:56] <duncan_> xs, nah it's easy enough to filter through and I use manpages alot
[09:56] <Armageddon> Shwack: come on, the blue screen is a legacy
[09:56] <xs> duncan_: ubuntu document most of their stuff in manpages?
[09:56] <Coldhak> isn't it red since XP?
[09:56] <bman> anyone help with a php problem?
[09:56] <Shwack> Armageddon: I'm setting up a subdomain on one of my .nets to point to my home IP address so I can host a ventrilo server and a Waste again network
[09:56] <Armageddon> bigmack83_: it's converting them into DVD that's why it takes space
[09:56] <bigmack83_> ActionParsnip1, i tried to use adjust video and it went from 98% to 99% full
[09:56] <xs> duncan_: what wm do you use?
[09:56] <Armageddon> Shwack: you need a firewall ?
[09:56] <duncan_> xs, negative, ubuntu's documentation is in their wiki but everything upstream is in manpages, and gnome
[09:56] <Alvinware> Can i uncheck the 'AT SPI Registry Wrapper' in start-up manager?
[09:56] <mrwes> ActionParsnip1, o/
[09:57] <Armageddon> Shwack: try firestarter that's an easy one, and if you have windows computers you will need samba
[09:57] <bruteforce> bman: whats the problem?
[09:57] <mrwes> Armageddon, firestarter is outdated
[09:57] <bman> fpr this data $desc = "'he' - 'ho' - 'hum'";
[09:57] <bman>     if (strpos($desc, '\' - \'') !== false)
[09:57] <Armageddon> mrwes: what's new ?
[09:57] <bman> i expect that to pass
[09:57] <DarkCore> guys
[09:57] <bman> but its not
[09:57] <duncan_> I've been using Gufw, though firehol is very good if you want to handwrite your own firewall
[09:57] <xs> duncan_: also, coming from arch, how much crap does ubuntu install? e.g., *kit, hal? can you get rid of it easily?
[09:57] <mrwes> gufw / ufw -- Uncompitcated Firewall
[09:57] <Shwack> Armageddon: You're forgetting I showed up to linux knowing it had a cube
[09:57] <DarkCore> oh wait
[09:57] <dukz> my ubuntu one doesn't work. it doesn't ask me for my username or password. :(
[09:58] <PC_Nerd101> Hi, I'm trying to upgrade from a CD, but there is no /cdrom/cdromupgrade file to run as the autoprompt doesnt popup,... any suggestions?
[09:58] <Shwack> Armageddon - I didnt know I was never going to log on to windows again
[09:58] <pshr_> hey, how to delete the shortcuts that come u in places menu in the tool bar above
[09:58] <jrib> xs: start with a minimal ubuntu install and add only what you want
[09:58] <mrwes> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/gufw-simple-gui-for-ufw-uncomplicated-firewall.html
[09:58] <Armageddon> Shwack: once you go linux you never go back, tell me about it:P
[09:58] <Armageddon> mrwes: ?
[09:58] <bigmack83_> Armageddon, so while converting if each video would essentially need 1.15 gb or so for conversion, once that data is converted the extra is discarded. so how can i set it up so i can put 12 per disc? i will try brasero though
[09:58] <raevol> is keyserver.ubuntu.com down?
[09:58] <pshr_> hey, how to delete the shortcuts that come up in places menu in the tool bar above
[09:58] <Armageddon> bigmack83_: probably
[09:58] <blizzkid> Lo all. I have jaunty running on a mac mini PPC, I attached a USB drive, it shows up in dmesg as sda. parted shows 1 partition. Fdisk -l doesn't show the disk. fdisk /dev/sda says no partition map. Is it a common problem on PPC?
[09:58] <erUSUL> PC_Nerd101: is the alternate cd ?
[09:58] <Armageddon> raevol: test it
[09:58] <xs> jrib: so minimal lacks consolekit, devicekit, policykit, hal, avahi, etc?
[09:58] <ActionParsnip1> PC_Nerd101: gksudo "sh /media/cdrom0/cdromupgrade"
[09:58] <mrwes> firestarter is just the frontend to iptables
[09:59] <steakunderscore> raevol: It was up earlier today
[09:59] <jrib> xs: it should, yes
[09:59] <raevol> seems to have just come back up
[09:59] <erUSUL> raevol: yes; use pgpkeys.mit.edu
[09:59] <Armageddon> mrwes: fine, but I didnt understand what you said instead of firestarter
[09:59] <jrib> !minimal | xs
[09:59] <Shwack> Armageddon - lol.   i've been up till 4am every night having so much fun. I just took a midterm yesterday morning and couldn't study at all cuz I found integrated PGP and keyrings
[09:59] <duncan_> xs, I use most of what ubuntu installs by default, I got annoyed with spending hours setting things up in arch, as the point of distributions is to get a good base so people don't have to spend hours or days tweaking their system to a usable level
[09:59] <x3_iVaN> hello
[09:59] <PC_Nerd101> a find on the mounted CD doesnt find cdromupgrade... I'm not entirely certain if its the alternate CD...   a friend burnt it for me to to save the 1GB odd upgrade size.
[09:59] <TheJosh> so ubuntu + BFS kernel doesn't work very well :(
[09:59] <x3_iVaN> I need to active the classic desktop on netbook remix in 9.10. anyone knows how I do fix it?
[09:59] <mrwes> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuFirewall
[09:59] <erUSUL> PC_Nerd101: becouse the desktop cd can not be used to upgrade
[09:59] <duncan_> xs, but anything can be removed easily enough if you don't want it
[09:59] <TheJosh> apparently BFS doesnt like Xord
[10:00] <Armageddon> Shwack: haha tell me about it, Linux is the best OS ever made to humans, and I would laugh in the face of anyone that says otherwise
[10:00] <_PiLoT_> actually that reminds me
[10:00] <PC_Nerd101> * ahh - that would explain it.
[10:00] <xs> duncan_: did you switch your wm? that's actually a concern for me. it seems a lot of the ubuntu "policy" stuff is tied into gnome and won't carry over to other wms.
[10:00] <PC_Nerd101> ok, then I guess aGB upgrade it is... thanks :)
[10:00] <duncan_> xs, just autoremove through apt-get or remove in synaptic
[10:00] <xs> duncan_: ya, via debfoster.
[10:00] <Shwack> Armageddon: I  agree
[10:00] <ipatel> hi guys.... since the upgrade to 9.10 yesterday i noticed that open office crashes each time i try to open a file created using previous versions
[10:00] <CammyA1600> blizzkid, how well does Jaunty run compared to MorphOS on the MacMini?
[10:01] <xs> jrib: thanks. where can i find out about its precise contents? or is it a suck it and see kind of thing? ;-)
[10:01] <sixfish> anyone know how the iwlagn with 9.04 ? and aircrack-ng ?
[10:01] <Shwack> Armageddon: I have WINE and open office and Gimp... the only thing i dont have is a PTT for ventrilo
[10:01] <duncan_> xs, autoremove will remove all dependencies that aren't needed and synaptic will list orphaned packages
[10:01] <Armageddon> Shwack: I've been using Ubuntu for 9months now, and a lot of stuff do not work properly, compatibility issues with my hardware but I can't let it go, it's addictive !
[10:01] <_PiLoT_> ubuntu cliam they work with intel developing the UNR, to make the most of the atom processors. i was wondering whether the desktop additions also have the informatio included so that the desktop edition can be used on a netbook with no complaints
[10:01] <blizzkid> CammyA1600: never tried MorphOS, so don't really know. Jaunty works fine apart from some multimedia packages, but I use it as as dns/dhcp/backup server
[10:01] <Shwack> Armageddon: SAme dude! My speakers emit a high pitched buzzing sound in 5.1 surround mode unless i turn my subwoofer up past 10% - it gives my comp personality... I love it
[10:01] <duncan_> xs, I used gnome and kde in arch and gnome in ubuntu, so i'm not sure how the policies tie into kde or xfce
[10:02] <jrib> xs: I would just try it.  I've never installed it, but my guess is it just installs the ubuntu-minimal package and all of its dependencies so you can check packages.ubuntu.com
[10:02] <xs> duncan_: debfoster keeps track of preferences on orphaned packages and finds more than deborphan does (for example).
[10:02] <xs> jrib: cheers! :)
[10:02] <CammyA1600> Shame about the mm packages
[10:02] <_PiLoT_> im only asking because the UNR lloks a bit too much like a mobile phone UI
[10:03] <duncan_> xs, the minimal install cd should be similar to a slackware install (which is what arch is based on )
[10:03] <blizzkid> CammyA1600: and now this fdisk issue, so I guess Ubuntu on the PPC is not that great, I might switch to Debian
[10:03] <_PiLoT_> also theres the isue of a 1024x600 resolution
[10:03] <DigitalKiwi> duncan_: WHAT
[10:03] <blizzkid> CammyA1600: or even some BSD
[10:03] <DigitalKiwi> arch is NOT based on slackware
[10:03] <CammyA1600> Is it a G4 or G3?
[10:03] <_PiLoT_> im pretty sure the desktop edition wont like it
[10:03] <ActionParsnip1> PC_Nerd101: you NEED the alternate CD or its not going to upgrade your system
[10:03] <Shwack> Anybody use Waste?
[10:03] <LexR> arch is independent disto
[10:04] <ivanatwork> duncan_, on arch you have also to configure ... it's not Slackware ;)
[10:04] <DigitalKiwi> it was originally LFS with pacman homebrewed and it is inspired by crux
[10:04] <_PiLoT_> blizzkid what type of ppc u got?
[10:04] <PC_Nerd101> ActionParsnip1: Thanks - I've only got the standard desktop install CD ( like live boot etc).. so I'll just download...   cant wait :) - thanks for your help !:)
[10:04] <ActionParsnip1> PC_Nerd101: np man,
[10:04] <blizzkid> _PiLoT_: it's the original Mac mini
[10:04] <DigitalKiwi> with bsd like init scripts and in addition a ports like build system, but is not based on anything
[10:04] <_PiLoT_> ah ok i thought you meant pocket pc
[10:04] <CammyA1600> Damn, G3 I guess
[10:04] <ActionParsnip1> PC_Nerd101: the guide is a little off , you just need to run the command from the mount point of the cd
[10:04] <Armageddon> is there a way to write a bash file to automount all hard drives on startup ?
[10:05] <ActionParsnip1> PC_Nerd101: the guide assumes /cdrom when it should be /media/cdrom0
[10:05] <xs> Armageddon: edit /etc/fstab no?
[10:05] <ActionParsnip1> Armageddon: sudo mount -a
[10:05] <duncan_> DigitalKiwi, I stand corrected, I just remembered something in the Arch wiki about it
[10:05] <ActionParsnip1> Armageddon: mount -s will attempt to mount all drives in /etc/fstab
[10:05] <xs> ActionParsnip1: that gets executed at boot time anyhow.
[10:05] <PC_Nerd101> ActionParsnip1: ok...btw - on upgrading, it tells me that packages such as g++-4.3 are no longer supported and will be recomented to remove after upgrade.. does that mean that newer versions of these are available in 9.10 - or that they are no longer "officially" supported?
[10:05] <Armageddon> xs, ActionParsnip1 but it needs a password !
[10:05] <ActionParsnip1> well, partitions
[10:05] <_PiLoT_> is there a limit to how many hdds the os will handle?
[10:05] <xs> Armageddon: what needs a password?
[10:05] <DigitalKiwi> duncan_: it's cool, you'll know next time it comes up now at least :)
[10:06] <Armageddon> xs: the sudo
[10:06] <ActionParsnip1> Armageddon: not if you put it in /etc/rc.local !
[10:06] <FiReSTaRT> i'm getting ready to install karmic on a machine that already has grub2 installed and properly configured... will karmic get autodetected by grub or will the karmic install cd try to configure it?
[10:06] <weltall> hi does anyone know how to setup policies? for example to not make the frequency scaler ask every time to put the password to change frequency? there was a tool for gnome on the last version but it doesn't work on karmic anymore (even installing it shows an empty list for permissions)
[10:06] <grawity> Armageddon: 'sudo'? It wants _your_ _own_ password.
[10:06] <bigmack83_> ActionParsnip1 Armageddon for standard dvd quality, what should be the video bit rate in kbps? devede is defaulted to 5001 kbps
[10:06] <xs> Armageddon: ? if you add the disk to /etc/fstab then it will get automounted at boot.
[10:06] <Armageddon> can not be done on start up automatically !
[10:06] <ActionParsnip1> PC_Nerd101: not sure
[10:06] <duncan_> DigitalKiwi, but as far as minimalism goes they are quite similar, just one is rolling release the other is time-based
[10:06] <Armageddon> bigmack83_: no idea, google it, but you can choose it
[10:06] <Armageddon> xs: oh
[10:06] <ActionParsnip1> bigmack83_: i just use whatever devede recommends, works ok
[10:06] <Armageddon> xs: thanks
[10:06] <MrEgg964> Hi. Is is possible to dist-upgrade a remote computer, through ssh ?
[10:06] <xs> duncan_: does ubuntu have a rolling release like debian?
[10:06] <ivanatwork> duncan_, I agree ;)
[10:06] <PC_Nerd101> ActionParsnip1: ok
[10:07] <xs> Armageddon: there is probably a nice ui for doing this in ubuntu somewhere
[10:07] <bigmack83_> ok
[10:07] <joaopinto> MrEgg964, yes, with do-release-upgrade
[10:07] <joaopinto> MrEgg964, but, its still risky
[10:07] <Amnesia> hi does anyone know how to connect to a wireless AP with iwconfig?
[10:07] <Armageddon> Shwack: still tere ?
[10:07] <my007ms> since i update my ubuntu box virtual box stop working and i don't see boxdrv loaded in lsmod
[10:07] <Shwack> Armageddon Yep
[10:07] <my007ms> any idea ?
[10:07] <Armageddon> Shwack: read your query
[10:07] <duncan_> xs, closes you will get to rolling release with ubuntu is upgrading to the alphas as they are available, there is no unstable for ubuntu like debian
[10:07] <MrEgg964> joaopinto: do-release-upgrade is not just for Server Edition?
[10:07] <_PiLoT_> i have 5 internal hdds. will this be an issue
[10:07] <joaopinto> MrEgg964, no, it's for any edition,is the text counterpart for update-manager
[10:08] <xs> duncan_: but there is no testing either? debian testing is vetted more than unstable.
[10:08] <Armageddon> _PiLoT_: no
[10:08] <MrEgg964> joaopinto: thanks
[10:08] <Mowind> man all the karmic wall papers suck. :\
[10:08] <TheJosh> Well another reboot to try and get BFS working :)
[10:08] <Shwack> Armageddon where is that at?
[10:08] <duncan_> xs, correct, for ubuntu you have the current releases and the developmental release for the next version
[10:08] <Armageddon> Mowind: I got one great one if you like it, you may have it
[10:08] <Amnesia> iwconfig eth1 mode managed channel 6 key open 7177657274793132333435 essid linksys
[10:08] <Armageddon> Shwack: try to see all open windows
[10:08] <Amnesia> should be fine right?
[10:08] <duncan_> xs, for example once the 10.04 alpha is released that is similar to debian testing
[10:08] <xs> duncan_: okay. thanks. ubuntu -1.
[10:08] <Mowind> Armageddon: Sure.
[10:08] <DigitalKiwi> duncan_: yes they are similiar, frugalware was (and i think still is) based on slackware and uses a fork of pacman, fyi
[10:09] <Armageddon> Mowind: lemme find it for you
[10:09] <Snares> Does anyone here have a Creative X-Fi? If so, does your mic work?
[10:10] <Armageddon> Mowind: what I did is I made both taskbars transparent with the background, looks really good
[10:10] <ivanatwork> xs, and there is also Gwenview, if you want only free software (I feel a bit lost ...)
[10:10] <ivanatwork> xs, forget about it, wrong nick & window ;)
[10:10] <duncan_> DigitalKiwi, I liked pacman for it's simplicity
[10:10] <evenicoulddoit> Hi all. I've recently updated from 9.04 to 9.10 and I've found that my flash player is no longer responsive to clicks
[10:10] <xs> ivanatwork: no worries :)
[10:10] <joaopinto> duncan_, DigitalKiwi let's keep the change for support ;)
[10:10] <coz_> duncan_,  have you tried  njam then?
[10:10] <Snares> Does anyone here have a Creative X-Fi? If so, does your mic work?
[10:10] <DigitalKiwi> we are supporting
[10:10] <ivanatwork> xs, ty
[10:11] <nimrod0> thanks Armageddon , just wanted a list of supported hardware
[10:11] <ActionParsnip1> is this an official wiki or some 3rd party page: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Karmic
[10:11] <nimrod0> as there are always trouble with ubuntu especially on laptops with drivers
[10:11] <jrib> ActionParsnip1: 3rd party
[10:11] <DigitalKiwi> xs: you really want a rolling release that isn't debian or you were just hoping that ubuntu had one?
[10:11] <ActionParsnip1> jrib: thanks, thought so
[10:11] <Armageddon> Mowind: pvt me with your email please
[10:11] <duncan_> coz_, the package manager not the game :P
[10:11] <Armageddon> nimrod0: your welcome
[10:11] <ivanatwork> what is Gnusense? I mean, is it an Ubuntu with only free software?
[10:11] <h0ss> nimrod0: yar, I still cant get my wifi to work on 8.10 on AAO.
[10:12] <joaopinto> ivanatwork, yes
[10:12] <nimrod0> h0ss, have you considered upgrading ?
[10:12] <coz_> duncan_,  oh lol
[10:12] <DigitalKiwi> xs: http://oswatershed.org/
[10:12] <h0ss> nimrod0: very much so.  my bandwidth doesnt permit it at this time.
[10:12] <ivanatwork> joaopinto, so it's currently a 9.10 ? I'm a bit lost
[10:12] <coz_> duncan_,  i should have known :)
[10:12] <nimrod0> h0ss, what type of hardware for wifi
[10:12] <duncan_> coz_, :)
[10:12] <joaopinto> ivanatwork, I don't use gnewsense
[10:12] <DigitalKiwi> ubuntu is usually way far down but they had a release...so it's up temporarily
[10:13] <nimrod0> h0ss, request some free cd
[10:13] <ivanatwork> joaopinto, nor do I ;) just curious about new distros
[10:13] <nimrod0> there was a way to do that
[10:13] <h0ss> nimrod0: the wifi nic is an atheros AR5007EG
[10:13] <ivanatwork> btw, 9.10 has an horible brown by default ... lol I know ...
[10:13] <amgarching> Hi, what the the most "official" deb repository of  OOo 3.1 for Hardy LTS?
[10:13] <csaba> I've written a lang file for gedit, how to install it?
[10:14] <nimrod0> h0ss, atheros should be fully supported
[10:14] <h0ss> nimrod0: I will just wait until march to get a steady cat5 connection.
[10:14] <duncan_> DigitalKiwi, I don't put much stock in having the newest version of everything :)
[10:14] <DigitalKiwi> ivanatwork: don't they all have horrible brown/orange by default?
[10:14] <h0ss> nimrod0: and I am stuck with windblows :(
[10:14] <xs> DigitalKiwi: i was hoping ubuntu had one. thanks for the link :)
[10:14] <evenicoulddoit> Anyone get my issue?
[10:14] <ivanatwork> DigitalKiwi, 8.10 wasn't that bad
[10:14] <h0ss> nimrod0: not with 8.10 it isnt supported.
[10:14] <duncan_> ivanatwork, I prefer 9.10s horrible brown to 9.04s "{
[10:14] <xs> DigitalKiwi: !! i was looking for this link for ages! thank you so much :)
[10:14] <nimrod0> h0ss, that sucks really , these hardware manufacturers need a kick
[10:14] <csaba> I've written a lang file for gedit, how to install it?
[10:14] <DigitalKiwi> duncan_: that's not the only thing the distros that have up to date software have going for them over others that don't
[10:14] <xs> DigitalKiwi: i came across it months ago then forgot it!
[10:15] <DigitalKiwi> xs: yw
[10:15] <Foggy> does anybody know of a mail macro to sniff an incoming email parse a filename out of the list and attach it and respond
[10:15] <duncan_> DigitalKiwi, oh I know, I'm just commenting on the link :)
[10:15] <LexR> people, I dislike brow/orange theme as well, but there are other themes to choose from now...
[10:15] <h0ss> niimrod0: tell me about it.
[10:15] <DigitalKiwi> for example, how long would it take to update a 12 month old install of ubuntu to the newest release?
[10:15] <MasterJimmy> I'm having a problem with my upgrade to karmic. i keep getting this error: http://pastebin.com/d52770cfa
[10:15] <Shwack> Armageddon you in here?
[10:15] <LexR> If you want to customize the looks, goto gnome-look or kde-look
[10:15] <DigitalKiwi> and what are the chances of it surviving ;D
[10:16] <AmokPaule2> DigitalKiwi should work
[10:16] <duncan_> DigitalKiwi, I save myself the trouble and backup my home directory to my NFS and clean install
[10:16] <nimrod0> h0ss, please email the manufacturers and ask them to release drivers, the more of us that do that the better chance we have of making these people release drivers, because otherwise they know they'll lose money
[10:16] <DigitalKiwi> reinstalling is for windows users =D
[10:16] <duncan_> DigitalKiwi, and my laptop survived 9.04 to 9.10 fine, actually worked better after
[10:16] <DigitalKiwi> that's only 6 months
[10:16] <Snares> Does anyone here have a Creative X-Fi? If so, does your mic work?
[10:17] <AmokPaule2> my server hoster only gives very old releases per efault aswell i have to go over 4 releases
[10:17] <DigitalKiwi> if I understand right you can't do a years update in one go?
[10:17] <nimrod0> h0ss, we need to put the pressure on these guys, after all we pay for the hardware
[10:17] <duncan_> DigitalKiwi, yeah, you are supposed to take it in 6 month gaps
[10:17] <duncan_> DigitalKiwi, or 2 year gaps (LTS to LTS)
[10:17] <AmokPaule2> No go step by step
[10:17] <h0ss> nimrod0: from what I understand later releases of Ubuntu work fine with this hardware.
[10:17] <h0ss> nimrod0: also there are some packages that might makeit work
[10:17] <duncan_> DigitalKiwi, once 10.04 comes out i'll probably stick with it updating the few packages I need newer version of until 12.04
[10:17] <ActionParsnip1> h0ss: easier is to buy hardware from manufacturers whom support Linux
[10:17] <MasterJimmy> anyone? http://pastebin.com/d52770cfa
[10:17] <nimrod0> even if they do still put the pressure on the manufaccturers
[10:17] <joaopinto> !sound | Snares
[10:18] <ravic> hello everyone
[10:18] <ravic> I am having amd64 machine and instlled 64 bit os
[10:18] <ActionParsnip1> nimrod0: only buy hardware from manufacturers whom support Linux, vote with your wallet
[10:18] <ActionParsnip1> !detail | ravic
[10:18]  * DigitalKiwi giggles at his <30 minute update of whole system about 12 months old (it had been off twice in that time) not on ubuntu :)
[10:18] <Snares> joaopinto: Thank you this might actually help :)
[10:18] <ravic> jus wondering if any of u can gimme way to install 32 bit package
[10:18] <MasterJimmy> ravic, only the operating system is 64bit
[10:18] <sandhya> I'm trying to upgrade to karmic using the alternate iso and keep running into authentication issues with existing packages - I've disabled all third party repos.
[10:18] <Snares> DigitalKiwi: Only girls giggle.
[10:18] <kalauz1> hi all anyone know if is possible clone a ext3 partition to another with different size with dd, thx
[10:19] <ActionParsnip1> ravic: you can install ia32-libs    and use 32bit packages
[10:19] <DigitalKiwi> maybe I'm a girl
[10:19] <Randy_> alsa is buggy
[10:19] <duncan_> DigitalKiwi, Arch?
[10:19] <dto> hello ubuntu friends. clicking "burn playlist to cd" in rhythmbox does nothing. then when i try to drag the corresponding files into Brasero (as a workaround) it says Ogg is not suitable for writing to cd, even though it works for MP3s
[10:19] <DigitalKiwi> duncan_: ofc
[10:19] <joaopinto> Snadder, someone yesterday was reporting a non working mic, it fixed it by using the latest alsa drivers, compiled from source I guess
[10:19] <joaopinto> ops, was for Snares
[10:19] <Snares> DigitalKiwi: "DigitalKiwi giggles at his <30 minute" transvestite???!
[10:19] <Randy_> ...and by alsa being buggy, I don't mean just on ubuntu
[10:19] <nimrod0> ActionParsnip1, very well said . I'm not making the same mistake again that is for sure
[10:19] <sandhya> anybody encounter the same issue?
[10:19] <DigitalKiwi> Snares: ;D
[10:19] <saleh> Hi
[10:19] <Snares> joaopinto: Ok thanks, awesome :D
[10:19] <ActionParsnip1> nimrod0: shop smart, shop s-mart
[10:20] <C-S-B> So how is karmic for everyone?
[10:20] <saleh> I just upgraded from 9.04 to 9.10
[10:20] <saleh> and I can't boot ubuntu
[10:20] <Amnesia> ActionParsnip1: ever worked with iwconfig?
[10:20] <evenicoulddoit> Hi guys, I'm having some real issues with flash after updating to 9.10
[10:20] <ravic> i already installed it
[10:20] <sandhya> C-S-B: can't upgrade :(
[10:20] <ActionParsnip1> C-S-B: been flawless since alpha2
[10:20] <ravic> but still 32 bit app's fails
[10:20] <LexR> karma is serving me good...
[10:20] <MasterJimmy> is anyone able to tell me what the error is i'm getting when i try to upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10? http://pastebin.com/d52770cfa
[10:20] <ActionParsnip1> Amnesia: never, i always use the interfaces file
[10:20] <Amnesia> hm okay
[10:20] <C-S-B> ActionParsnip1, My acer aspire one zg5 isnt always picking up that ive removed the power cable
[10:20] <Amnesia> nvm then:p
[10:21] <Amnesia> sorry for bothering you;)
[10:21] <saleh> First it was a problem with nVidia
[10:21] <padi999> hi
[10:21] <Shikaku> hello
[10:21] <saleh> but I purged the driver
[10:21] <ActionParsnip1> ravic: you need to use force to install it as the system expects 64bit packages
[10:21] <CptnAwesome> whats the name of the deb installer package?
[10:21] <sandhya> sigh
[10:21] <saleh> and I could boot until before login window
[10:21] <C-S-B> ActionParsnip1, I should specfiy, gnome-power-manager, proc settings are correct
[10:21] <saleh> then nothing happens
[10:21] <saleh> just a background
[10:21] <padi999> in 9.10 I seem to have lost the firefox flash plugin (again), how do I have to proceed? (I tried installing flashplayer-nonfree) but no change in ff
[10:21] <saleh> anyone knows how to fix this?
[10:22] <ravic> i am try to have calendar addon to thunderbird
[10:22] <ActionParsnip1> C-S-B: nice
[10:22] <ravic> it doesnt :(
[10:22]  * sandhya has yet to complete a Linux install or upgrade without resorting to IRC for help :(
[10:22] <MasterJimmy> can someone PLEASE tell me what this error is and how to fix it? I'm trying to upgrade to 9.10 :( http://pastebin.com/d52770cfa
[10:22] <sandhya> and they wonder why it's not catching on :S
[10:22] <C-S-B> ActionParsnip1, any ideas?
[10:22] <duncan_> sandhya, what issues are you having?
[10:23] <[JackD]> the connect button bug on wpa/psk is very annoying :)
[10:23] <ActionParsnip1> MasterJimmy: looks like a bug to me, have you tried a reboot then run: sudo apt-get -f install
[10:23] <sandhya> duncan_: using the alternate iso to upgrade to karmic and run into authentication issues with existing packages.. I've disabled all third party repositories
[10:23] <ActionParsnip1> C-S-B: sorry dude
[10:23] <C-S-B> ActionParsnip1, :(
[10:23] <ActionParsnip1> C-S-B: i can't tell you what i don't know
[10:24] <Yos> If I upgrade to 9.10, will it change my network configuration ?
[10:24] <duncan_> sandhya, why are you using the alternate iso as upposed to running the update through the update manager?
[10:24] <C-S-B> ActionParsnip1, I usually help in here so it's a bugger when I cant help myself!
[10:24] <LexR> is smplayer made for kde or gnome? or indemendent?
[10:24] <MasterJimmy> ActionParsnip1, i can try to reboot. brb
[10:24] <Wikidude> How long does Karmic take to boot ( time taken from leaving grub - login screen)
[10:24] <duncan_> sandhya, just curious as the update manager worked fine on my end
[10:24] <yasin> hi. ubuntu 9.10 installing but frequency out of range bug. help!!. monitor philips 107e
[10:24] <ActionParsnip1> C-S-B: maybe someone else can pitch in
[10:24] <sandhya> duncan_: I've also got to upgrade the installations on a couple of relatives of mine and wanted to save the bandwidth.
[10:24] <Rabbitbunny> yasin: Hand edit xorg.conf
[10:24] <ivanatwork> yasin, try to use "vesa"
[10:25] <Name141> Is Wubi still about 100% accurate on how the OS will be when installed for real on it's own partitions ?
[10:25] <Yos> If I upgrade to Karmic will it change my network configuration ?
[10:25] <slawek> Is here anybody who can halp me with wireless internet on Ubuntu 9.04?
[10:25] <web5|org|ua> after clean install 9.10 black background and can't change to other !
[10:25] <Shikaku> i don't see why not.  except maybe the load times
[10:25] <sandhya> Yos: I don't think so.
[10:25] <duncan_> sandhya, ah, hmm, have you tried using the standard iso, inserting it into the cd drive should pop up the option to update via synaptic
[10:25] <ActionParsnip1> slawek: shouldnt do, it will only upgrade the apps
[10:25] <Name141> Shikaku: For Wubi ?
[10:26] <ActionParsnip1> slawek: sorry, wrong target
[10:26] <web5|org|ua> slawe: use the windows driver with ndiswrapper
[10:26] <ActionParsnip1> yos: shouldnt do, it will only upgrade the apps
[10:26] <ivanatwork> Yos, it should be an upgrade but if I were you I would back up my conf files ;)
[10:26] <Shikaku> Name141: I don't see why not, it's installed to a file that's mounted for Ubuntu.
[10:26] <sandhya> duncan_: nope, but I shouldn't have to, should I? It effectively runs the same thing except using the alternate CD as the source
[10:26] <Name141> Shikaku: OK, I will try it out before I decide to go full install then
[10:26] <novice> Can anyone help with udev? HID keyboard not working in 9.10 working in 9.04
[10:26] <Shikaku> defrag if you want faster load times
[10:26] <duncan_> sandhya, different installers, I'm just suggesting as i've never tried to upgrade via the alternative
[10:27] <Shikaku> and don't use NTFS file compression
[10:27] <csaba> I wrote a lang file for gedit, how to install it?
[10:27] <blueglasses> what do you think about ksplice?
[10:27] <Iormangund> heya, was wondering wether anyone had an Acer AspireOne and if they had tried UNR 9.10 and UMR 9,10 and which was better compatbility?
[10:27] <yasin> how edit xorg.conf in livecd
[10:28] <ActionParsnip1> yasin: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:28] <sandhya> duncan_: ah, thanks.. but I'd like to get it right with this.. one of the pcs I need to upgrade has a very intermittent net connection
[10:28] <ActionParsnip1> yasin: same as an installed system
[10:28] <yasin> okey.
[10:28] <ivanatwork> yasin, then log off
[10:28] <yasin> monitor black screen
[10:28] <sandhya> ok, I'm now getting errors during a jaunty apt-get update
[10:28] <sandhya> W: Failed to fetch http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/jaunty/main/binary-i386/Packages  404 Not Found
[10:28] <sandhya> etc.
[10:29] <zilt0id> hey guys is keyserver.ubuntu.com down?
[10:29] <zilt0id> its not responding very well
[10:29] <h1d> is wiki.ubuntu.com down?
[10:29] <Shikaku> http://wiki.ubuntu.com
[10:29] <warfare> hi all.
[10:29] <web5|org|ua> problem with background, can't change !
[10:29] <Shikaku> h1d: no
[10:29] <h1d> nvm, it was totally slow, but just on the topic, why is it hosted as https?
[10:29] <duncan_> sandhya, aye the standard iso will do an upgrade off the cd as well just through synaptic (sorry if I didn't make that clear) as opposed to going through the non-x installer (forget what it is called)
[10:30] <h1d> never mind*
[10:30] <ActionParsnip1> zilt0id: use pgp.mit.edu  instead
[10:30] <makf> Can anyone help with udev? HID keyboard not working in 9.10 working in 9.04
[10:30] <zilt0id> cheers for that
[10:30] <ActionParsnip1> sandhya: i get a 404 for that file too
[10:30] <slawek> My sis have T-mobile "web`n`walk Stick" She had Vista, but I installed her The Ubuntu 9.04, but web`n`walk manager which runs from this Stick doesn`t run on Ubuntu.
[10:30] <Shikaku> try another server?
[10:30] <grawity> ActionParsnip1: pgp.mit.edu? I thought it's not synced.
[10:30] <duncan_> sandhya, alternate install is simply for automated installations, computers with too little ram, and advanced configurations
[10:30] <warfare> Where do I ask for enhancements to NetworkManager? I want to setup a wifi-Adhoc network without dnsmasq.
[10:31] <ActionParsnip1> grawity: works here
[10:31] <ivanatwork> slawek, you have to search for the drivers
[10:31] <Squeak> Are there any Kubuntu users on at the moment?
[10:31] <ivanatwork> Squeak, tried it for a short time
[10:31] <warfare> slawek: the web'n
[10:32] <duncan_> Squeak, #kubuntu is guaranteed to have some :)
[10:32]  * raid0 goodmorning all
[10:32] <sandhya> duncan_: oh, I thought that the live cd did not support offline upgrades
[10:32] <mkulke> the ubuntu apt keyserver is timing out on me, does this happen to anyone else?
[10:32] <warfare> slawek: the web'n'walk stick should be a huawei e220. This would work with network manager out of the box.
[10:32] <Iormangund> anyone know which would be better for an aspire one? ubuntu netbook remix or ubuntu moblin remix?
[10:32] <ivanatwork> (!) ah
[10:32] <ewer> warfare, you can try zero config
[10:32] <sandhya> thanks - if things don't work later today, I'll give it a shot :)
[10:32] <blizzkid> mkulke: same here since yesterday
[10:32] <duncan_> sandhya, yep the livecd will act as a repository for the upgrade
[10:32] <warfare> ewer: It works, when I shut down NM and configure this by hand.
[10:33] <ActionParsnip1> mkulke: i've been using pgp.mit.edu  instead
[10:33] <warfare> ewer: I just want to use NM and click it ;)
[10:33] <SIRprise> if i "close" emphaty it seems to run anyway, but there is no icon in system tray. i must "restart" it over the starter
[10:33] <slawek> MODEL: GI0225
[10:34] <ewer> warfare, I wouldnt use a wireless network without dns configuration, you should think about using bluetooth instead
[10:34] <ActionParsnip1> SIRprise: have you tried renaming `/.empathy
[10:34] <ActionParsnip1> ~/.empathy
[10:34] <SIRprise> ActionParsnip1: no. what exactly should i rename?
[10:34] <magr> somebody who can help me with the freenx server?? i cant connect to it with the nx client from nomachine...=/
[10:35] <grawity> SIRprise: ~/.empathy
[10:35] <dj_> hey guys i want to run rar as sudo so i can split a file in volume, when i rightclick on the file ad to archive i can not do there i dont have root privilige, how to run rar with root priviliges
[10:35] <Squeak> duncan_: yeah, you have a good point :)
[10:35] <grawity> SIRprise: To, for example, "empathy.old"
[10:35] <dj_> i do sudo rar but it shows only command line
[10:35] <SIRprise> grawity: in console to start?
[10:35] <jrib> dj_: you don't need sudo to do that
[10:35] <ActionParsnip1> SIRprise: ~/.empathy   give it a different name then relaunch the app, if it works then the profile for the app is bad
[10:36] <dj_> jrib: i right  clik on the file then how to split the movie
[10:36] <ActionParsnip1> SIRprise: if it works with the stok profile you can either keep the empty profile and rebuild or rename the old profile back and troubleshoot
[10:36] <SandGorgon> hey guys.. i'm changing my icon preferences to "compact view", and my folder icons change layout accordingly - however my Desktop icons remain the same. how do I get my Folder icons to be laid out in Compact View as well ?
[10:36] <SIRprise> ActionParsnip1: i just created the profiles a few minutes ago
[10:36] <ewer> dj_, try gksudo instead
[10:36] <jrib> dj_: I mean, if you can do it with sudo, then you can do it without sudo, but I don't know how you actually do it using rar.  Alternatively, consider using the "split" command
[10:36] <ActionParsnip1> SIRprise: worth a try
[10:37] <dj_> ewer it shows command line
[10:37] <SIRprise> ActionParsnip1: ok,thx
[10:37] <ewer> dj, because you are using command line
[10:37] <makf> Can anyone help with udev? HID keyboard not working in 9.10, was working in 9.04. Trued to copy 5-udev-default and 60-persistent-input from 9.04 to /etc/udev/rules.d/, that didn't help. Touchpad, embedded in the keyboard, works, any ideas to debug?
[10:37] <dj_> i have a large file i want to split it to lower volume when i right click add archive then i see options to add volume but i need root password
[10:38] <jrib> dj_: what file? Where in the filesystem are you doing this?
[10:38] <archy008> did anyone upgrade through the torrent image?
[10:38] <dj_> jrib: on my desktop and i am admin
[10:38] <jrib> dj_: what are the permissions of the file?
[10:38] <rewati> hi i have ubuntu 9.10 installed and i cant find pydev in synaptic
[10:38] <ewer> dj_ dont you have root password on your own system?
[10:38] <iceroot> !anyone | archy008
[10:39] <SandGorgon> hey guys.. i'm changing my icon preferences to "compact view", and my folder icons change layout accordingly - however my Desktop icons remain the same. how do I get my Folder icons to be laid out in Compact View as well ?
[10:39] <rewati> hi i have ubuntu 9.10 installed and i cant find pydev in synaptic and i need python in eclipse
[10:39] <dj_> ewer: yes i have root password but how to start rar with root priviliges
[10:39] <Iormangund> anyone know which would be better for an aspire one? ubuntu netbook remix or ubuntu moblin remix?
[10:39] <ewer> dj_ are you talking about RAR or File Roller?
[10:40] <dj_> ewer: RAR
[10:40] <archy008> What is the best / safest way to upgrade? is the torrent upgrade ok or the best would be to do the network upgrade?
[10:40] <ewer> dj_ RAR is a command line utility
[10:40] <SIRprise> ActionParsnip1: i don't find that path (i'm noob) but i try it with reinstall
[10:40] <evenicoulddoit> Hello. Could someone help me with my flash player. Since I've upgraded it doesn't seem to function properly
[10:41] <ewer> dj, type man RAR
[10:41] <dj_> ewer: but when i rigth click on the file i see add archive
[10:41] <solsTiCe> archy008: it's the same. depends on your need. you need the alternate iso to upgrade
[10:41] <dj_> i want there to get root priviliges
[10:41] <jrib> dj_: you should not need root privileges if the file is on your desktop.  What are the permissions on the file?
[10:41] <evenicoulddoit> Can anyone even see this?
[10:41] <ewer> dj_, I see, you must extend nautilus
[10:41] <micronaut> hi, i would like to back up a transmission torrent download that is in progress before i upgrade to ubuntu 9.10.  is it possible to do this?  thanks for any assistance
[10:42] <jrib> evenicoulddoit: just ask your question
[10:42] <archy008> I want to upgrade to 9.10 but they say that it is recommended to use the network update.. but I think that will take too much time.. as opposed to the update through the downloaded alternate iso file
[10:42] <makf> Can anyone help with udev? HID keyboard not working in 9.10, was working in 9.04. Trued to copy 5-udev-default and 60-persistent-input from 9.04 to /etc/udev/rules.d/, that didn't help. Touchpad, embedded in the keyboard, still works, any ideas to debug? How can i find out what devices are added to the system?
[10:42] <ewer> dj, you may google for nautilus extensions rar
[10:42] <ManiS> I have a gfx chipset that only worked until 8.10 cameout, is there any way I can use this computer without upgrading..... arent there standard crappy drivers that come with ubuntu?
[10:42] <solsTiCe> micronaut: you're reformating ? because there should not need to back up i think
[10:42] <ActionParsnip1> SIRprise: the path is ~/.empathy  or /home/$USER/.empathy  or $HOME/.empathy
[10:43] <ActionParsnip1> SIRprise: i gave you the path, its just a hidden folder
[10:43] <micronaut> solsTiCe: i am currently running linux mint and would like to go to karmic
[10:43] <dj_> ewer that google was not much of a help
[10:43] <evenicoulddoit> Thanks jrib. My issue is that since updating from 9.04 to 9.10, my Adobe Flash player has become unresponsive to mouse clicks, making it impossible to play such content as the BBC iPlayer. Key strokes work, but no clicks register
[10:43] <ewer> dj_ or you may start nautilus with gksudo
[10:43] <damo22> whats the latest LTS release?
[10:43] <damo22> 8.04?
[10:44] <jrib> damo22: yes
[10:44] <bassliner> so how does one dump the actual current configuration of the running x server? i noticed there just even is no xorg.conf at all anymore and i would love to adjust the resolution, which completely fails with the graphical frontend...
[10:44] <Blizzerand> !google >ewer
[10:44] <hexa-> Results for >ewer on Google:
[10:44] <hexa-> --
[10:44] <dj_> i run gksudo: i get command line
[10:44] <jrib> dj_: can you answer my question?
[10:44] <solsTiCe> micronaut: you could make a tarball of ~/.config/transmission and your torrents directory
[10:44] <dj_> jrib: what was your question
[10:44] <ewer> ewer, try: gksudo nautilus
[10:44] <jrib> dj_: you should not need root privileges if the file is on your desktop.  What are the permissions on the file?
[10:44] <Tesssa> question tried to install xubunto 9.10 am using xubuntu 9.4 got as far as 3of6 clicked the right box then clicked forward it jumped from 3of6 to 4of 7, no partition mansger not only the it wiped the partion manager from the installed 9.4 .just had to reinstall 9.4 to get it back anyone tell me why
[10:44] <dj_> jrib: read write
[10:44] <micronaut> solsTiCe: ok. i'll take at look at that. thanks
[10:45] <bassliner> damn, this whole new HAL stuff is just the greatest PITA i've experienced within the last 15 years of configuring X, including dual head setups and sparcstations running BSD's.
[10:45] <solsTiCe> micronaut: with sparse file support to be safe
[10:45] <jrib> dj_: those aren't permissions.  What does: ls -l /path/to/file return?
[10:45] <ActionParsnip1> Tesssa: did you install from a CD?
[10:45] <damo22> how do i find out which ubuntu version i am running over ssh?
[10:45] <ActionParsnip1> damo22: lsb_release -c
[10:45] <jrib> !version | damo22
[10:45] <Reliant> Is there a good IDE for editing PHP that's not KDevelop?
[10:45] <ActionParsnip1> !ide | Reliant
[10:45] <MrWGW> hey there, I just did a 9.10 install, but Ubiquity crashed before installing the bootloader
[10:45] <ManiS> :'(, time to try hackintosh......
[10:46] <MrWGW> what command should I run from the live CD to manually install it?
[10:46] <ActionParsnip1> !grub2 | MrWGW
[10:46] <MrWGW> right but that doesn't help me
[10:46] <makf> Can anyone help with udev? HID keyboard not working in 9.10, was working in 9.04. Trued to copy 5-udev-default and 60-persistent-input from 9.04 to /etc/udev/rules.d/, that didn't help. Touchpad, embedded in the keyboard, still works, any ideas to debug? How can i find out what devices are added to the system?
[10:46] <MrWGW> all I'm asking is what command do I run to clean up Ubiquity's failure ot install it?
[10:46] <ActionParsnip1> Tesssa: did you mD5 test the ISO you downloaded? Did you run the CD verifier?
[10:47] <ActionParsnip1> MrWGW: you need to use the live CD to install grub2 to the disk
[10:47] <Iormangund> anyone know which would be better for an aspire one? ubuntu netbook remix or ubuntu moblin remix?
[10:47] <dj_> ewer:gksudo nautilus
[10:47] <dj_> Nautilus-Share-Message: Called "net usershare info" but it failed: "net usershare" returnerade fel 255: net usershare: cannot open usershare directory /var/lib/samba/usershares. Error Filen eller katalogen finns inte
[10:47] <dj_> Please ask your system administrator to enable user sharing.
[10:47] <FloodBot3> dj_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:47] <h4f> have problem with acer aspire 5720 microphone intel . should I install alsa ?
[10:47] <ewer> dj_, I wouldnt use nautilus as root, you can change the file permitions and then use "regular" nautilus
[10:47] <solsTiCe> md5sum test should not be needed if downloaded with torrent
[10:48] <MrWGW> ActionParsnip1: right
[10:48] <ActionParsnip1> solsTiCe: its good to test though, takes a minute and helps garuntee data integrity
[10:48] <dj_> ewer: i have file permission read write:
[10:48] <MrWGW> so what command do I run on the live CD to install GRUB 2?
[10:48] <Tesssa> diddnt think i needed to ActionParsnip as it was from a official download site
[10:48] <solsTiCe> ActionParsnip1: the bittorrent client should do that
[10:48] <ActionParsnip1> Tesssa: sure you do, you downloaded a massive block of data of a packet switched network
[10:49] <jrib> dj_: why would you think you need to run file roller as root.  It's writing to your Desktop.  You shouldn't just try to run things as root because it doesn't work otherwise...
[10:49] <ActionParsnip1> Tesssa: MD5 doesnt check its an official image, it makes sure it hasnt become garbaged in transit
[10:49] <dj_> jrib: it worked now
[10:49] <Tesssa> well as i am newish to ubuntu it doesnt tell me to do that
[10:49] <ActionParsnip1> solsTiCe: it should but its still good to check as single bit errors can cause havok
[10:49] <ewer> dj_, if you do, why would the system ask you to become root? are you trying to add a file to a read only external usb or something?
[10:49] <ActionParsnip1> !md5 | Tesssa
[10:50] <Deathvalley122> can someone look at my thread on the forum?
[10:50] <h4f> any one know . what's the default sound server alsa or pulseaudio?
[10:50] <jrib> dj_: of course it worked.  But like I said, you should not just go around running things as root because it doesn't work otherwise.  That's a great way to break your system.
[10:50] <ActionParsnip1> solsTiCe: technically it shouldnt happen with FTP as TCP should error check the data as its transmitted but THATstill fails
[10:50] <Tesssa> its supposed to be a new os
[10:50] <ActionParsnip1> MrWGW: the guide will tell you how
[10:50] <MrWGW> gah
[10:50] <coz_> hey guys...when will #ubuntu+1  be online?
[10:51] <ActionParsnip1> MrWGW: http://ubuntuguide.net/how-to-restore-grub-2-after-reinstalling-windows-xpvistawin7
[10:51] <Tesssa> didnt need to do that when i did the same installing 9.4 and thet worked perfect
[10:51] <c3l_> im running a dual monitor setup. the desktop cube looks just stupid at two monitors, is it possible to make it visible on only one screen?
[10:51] <ActionParsnip1> Tesssa: maybe you got lucky, its good to test
[10:51] <ActionParsnip1> Tesssa: there is also a checker on the CD to test the burned cD is error free too
[10:51] <ewer> never understimate the power off root
[10:52] <Tesssa> well tell me how to test and i will
[10:52] <solsTiCe> ActionParsnip1: yes but bittorrent has a sha1sum of every chunk so there already a check integrity there. and even sometimes a hash check for finished torrent
[10:52] <ActionParsnip1> !md5 | Tesssa
[10:53] <dj_> jrib: no this was what i was trying to do: i had a large file i wanted to rar it, i was right clickin on it, add archive then i saw option tar.gz on the left i saw options but i could not choose options to split it, now i see how rar works, i had to choose first what type of file i want to save as .rar or tgz then to split it on volume that i want then enter root password
[10:53] <ActionParsnip1> solsTiCe: yes but TCP has CRC and parity checks on each packet as they travel but that can still fail, thats why MD5 exists, no method is 100% fool proof
[10:53] <kwyjibo> can someone tell me how to change my window manager via command line?
[10:53] <foo> hm, I'm using synergyc and I just lost connection on my linux system. I'm on windows now. Is there anyway to start synergyc 192.168.0.4 and make it happen in X? So it can reconnect? Thanks
[10:53] <ActionParsnip1> kwyjibo: <name of manager> --replace
[10:53] <Tesssa> or better still go back to win7
[10:53] <ActionParsnip1> kwyjibo: e.g.   metacity --replace
[10:53] <jrib> dj_: you shoudln't have to enter any root password
[10:53] <ewer> kwyjibo, what exactly do you want to change?
[10:53] <gypsymauro> how to delete a menu entry in ubuntu ? (the wine one for example :)
[10:54] <dj_> jrib: of course i must enter root password iam compressin a file
[10:54] <kwyjibo> ewer: from metacity to openbox. but ActionParsnip1's command worked
[10:54] <ActionParsnip1> gypsymauro: alacarte can delete some
[10:54] <kwyjibo> ActionParsnip1: thanks :)
[10:54] <jrib> dj_: no, you said you were writing to your desktop.  Why would your user not be able to do that?
[10:54] <henryklyczkowski> Helllo
[10:54] <mitkok> Hey, guys.
[10:54] <Tesssa> so run the install disc for 9.10 and then find and use !md5
[10:54] <henryklyczkowski> Some new bugs founded? :)
[10:54] <ActionParsnip1> gypsymauro: if you look in ~/.config/menus/applications-merged   you will see the wine menu items, you can simply delete those
[10:55] <dariuzas> who know how to install nvidia drivers in to ubuntu ?
[10:55] <henryklyczkowski> dariuzas LOL google
[10:55] <makf> lots of, henry
[10:55] <ActionParsnip1> dariuzas: gksudo jockey-gtk
[10:55] <dariuzas> i have run file
[10:55] <john> hi all. need some help regarding burning dvds
[10:55] <dariuzas> downloaded
[10:55] <ActionParsnip1> !google | henryklyczkowski
[10:55] <mitkok> Just installed Ubuntu 9.10, but After enabling and disabling Effects no I cannot right-click on the desktop or change the Desktop wallpaper
[10:55] <ActionParsnip1> dariuzas: ignore that, use the packages
[10:55] <Madkiss> hi folks.
[10:55] <a_> hello
[10:55] <Madkiss> i am facing a problem with Karmic Koala; I have nfsroot, and apparently, rpc.statd is not started
[10:55] <gypsymauro> ActionParsnip1: in alacarte the delete button is disabled and in that file you said there is nothing about wine :(
[10:56] <makf> Can anyone help with udev? HID keyboard not working in 9.10, was working in 9.04. Trued to copy 5-udev-default and 60-persistent-input from 9.04 to /etc/udev/rules.d/, that didn't help. Touchpad, embedded in the keyboard, still works, any ideas to debug? How can i find out what devices are added to the system? It's useless to google about that, because it's the rare model of the dell notebook - m2010.
[10:56] <Tesssa> or where and when do i typ !md5
[10:56] <a_> apt-get update Error
[10:56] <a_>   Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2)
[10:56] <a_> 99% [12 Packages bzip2 0] [Connecting to th.archive.ubuntu.com (61.7.253.243)] bzip2: (stdin) is not a bzip2 file.
[10:56] <ActionParsnip1> gypsymauro: you should see long names relating to the folder structure
[10:56] <henryklyczkowski> ubottu Uff ,well basics are basics.
[10:56] <ActionParsnip1> gypsymauro: you could try: gksudo alacarte   to get access
[10:56] <Guest91602> anyone about to help me with problems i got burning dvds??
[10:56] <a_> How can I do ? Anybody help me please ~~~
[10:56] <gypsymauro> ActionParsnip1: yes I run as root, and I've just ~/.config/menus/applications.menu not the merged one
[10:57] <dj_> guest91602: what help you need
[10:57] <henryklyczkowski> makf More bugs than 8.04 lts had?
[10:57] <ActionParsnip1> gypsymauro: you run it as you, its your profile, not roots
[10:57] <makf> I have dmesg here, there seems to be some interesting info about it...
[10:57] <ActionParsnip1> gypsymauro: close the terminal and run it as YOU
[10:58] <ActionParsnip1> gypsymauro: you will find the entries
[10:58] <Grozzy> Hi!
[10:58] <foo> hm, I'm using synergyc and I just lost connection on my linux system. I'm on windows now. Is there anyway to start synergyc 192.168.0.4 and make it happen in X (via ssh)? So it can reconnect? Thanks
[10:58] <Guest91602> hi dj. ever since ive installed ubuntu im unable to burn dvds and i really dont want to go back to that other os. it keeps telling me all sorts of things about not being able to read file, wrong format etc. the film is an avi file.
[10:58] <dj_> jrib: can i rar even an .iso file
[10:58] <jrib> dj_: sure, why not
[10:58] <Grozzy> Sound issues in 9.10 :(
[10:58] <foo> Can I run a command via SSH but make it look like it's coming from my X session?
[10:58] <grawity> foo: Try this... DISPLAY=:0.0 synergyc blahblah
[10:58] <ActionParsnip1> Guest91602: did you md5 test the ISO?
[10:58] <dj_> grozzy: yes graphic issues and sound issues , whait for upgrade
[10:58] <Guest91602> its a film that was downloaded
[10:58] <Grozzy> Ah okey
[10:59] <Guest91602> not an iso
[10:59] <Chewtoy> Hello. :)
[10:59] <ActionParsnip1> Guest91602: ok what ormat is the film?
[10:59] <gypsymauro> ActionParsnip1: I got.. I was selecting the tree element and not the list element ... :) I need to sleep more on nights
[10:59] <Guest91602> the format is avi
[10:59] <ActionParsnip1> gypsymauro: cool :)
[10:59] <Tesssa> when and where do i type !md5 ActionParsnip i am a newcomer to ubuntu reallyjohn
[11:00] <ActionParsnip1> Guest91602: then i suggest you use devede to convert it to a video DVD which you can put in any hard DVD player and play it
[11:00] <gypsymauro> tank you
[11:00] <foo> grawity: thanks, looking for something like that, but that didn't work. What if DISPLAY needs to be set to something else?
[11:00] <foo> hm
[11:00] <ActionParsnip1> Tesssa: you don't. you read the links in the output
[11:00] <indus> hi hello
[11:00] <ActionParsnip1> !md5
[11:00] <henryklyczkowski> Karmic have more bugs than hardy had?
[11:00] <Creap> my upgrade to 9.10 has frozen at 90% "Installing the upgrades", is it a bad idea to kill the update and reboot? or what should I do
[11:00] <Creap> it's been like that for 10+ minutes
[11:00] <Guest91602> is that a programme that will convert it?? but then how do i copy it to dvd?? ive tried all kinds of copy software without much luck
[11:00] <daleharvey> ok, got a bunch packages that are in dodgy states because ubuntu froze during install
[11:01] <Ruby-g> ntfs-3g process takes 50 per cent cpu usage
[11:01] <daleharvey> apt-get remove doesnt work, it just errors
[11:01] <DigitalKiwi> DeVeDe is awesome
[11:01] <henryklyczkowski> Creap Best way is to do clean install, most of bugs are caused by upgrade
[11:01] <ActionParsnip1> Creap: i'd give it a while, if you select to view details is anything going on?
[11:01] <daleharvey> how can I get rid of them
[11:01] <Pachad93> hello
[11:01] <Creap> ActionParsnip1: no, and trying to close the window it says "not responding do you want to kill.."
[11:01] <Grozzy> HEY, I have no "System > Preferences > Sound" !!
[11:02] <Guest91602> is this devede software on the list or do i have to look for it?
[11:02] <ActionParsnip1> daleharvey: can you use http://pastebin.com   to provide the output of: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get -f install; sudo apt-get upgrade
[11:02] <ActionParsnip1> Creap: not good
[11:02] <kahen> the clock applet no longer supports manually setting whether it's showing 12 or 24 hour format? it's tied to user locale now?
[11:02] <Creap> henryklyczkowski: I don't want to lose all my installed apps etc
[11:02] <Guest11691> Hi I woundring if somone can help me. I have a sound prob. i just gone from Wind to Ubuntu 9.10 and my sound is lagging in Mozilla or Vlc some times it stops
[11:02] <Pachad93> Hello. I can't hear sound through my headphone jack. My laptop speakers, however, work fine... Please Help!!!
[11:02] <Madkiss> err, on my system, nfs-common has no init-script or upstart-job
[11:03] <Tesssa> looking at the bugs being repeorted here i think i will wait a while untill they get 9.10 sorted
[11:03] <daleharvey> sure, one second
[11:03] <kaie> good day. after upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10, mouse touchpad on ibm thinkpad t42 is no longer working
[11:03] <MrWGW> if I do a grub-install /dev/sda3, for example, that would install GRUB to that specific partition?
[11:03] <Tesssa> not good for a system that ubuntu says is better than windows
[11:03] <MrWGW> what I'd prefer to do is put grub 2 on the same partition that's root for my new Ubuntu install
[11:03] <MrWGW> and then chainload it for grub 1
[11:04] <Guest91602> where can i get devede from????????
[11:04] <Pachad93> Hello. I can't hear sound through my headphone jack. My laptop speakers, however, work fine... Please Help!!!
[11:04] <Brianetta> Can anybody tell me whether Ubuntu Software Centre can display the popularity of a package, and if so, how?
[11:04] <Tesssa> 9.4 works perfect now i have reinstalled it
[11:04] <henryklyczkowski> So many compaining people :)
[11:04] <filgy> newsflash people: new releases tend to have bugs.. don't upgrade immediately if your machine is mission critical..
[11:04] <iceroot> Tesssa: never touch a running system
[11:04] <Tobzion> Anyone in here that ar Op in Ubuntu-se?
[11:04] <MrWGW> I find the instructions on the wiki extremely vague and unhelpful btw
[11:05] <ango> ok guys how do i kill gdm in 9.10?
[11:05] <kwyjibo> ActionParsnip1: sorry to bother, but.. how can i make the new window manager choice stick? preferrably by command line. if i log out, the old one is back
[11:05] <henryklyczkowski> Creap Well if you isist to upgrade be prepared for bugs
[11:05] <ActionParsnip1> ango: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[11:05] <daleharvey> or I cant, because it freezes
[11:05] <Brianetta> ango: Ctrl-ALt-F1, log in, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[11:05] <Pachad93> Hello. I can't hear sound through my headphone jack. My laptop speakers, however, work fine... Please Help!!!
[11:05] <ivanatwork> Tobzion, try ask here ;)
[11:05] <ActionParsnip1> kwyjibo: if you add an entry to your startup items to run the command at logon
[11:05] <Chewtoy> How do you change the GDM-screen? I took a look at the Wiki(http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Karmic#Login_Menu_settings) but it seems to be wrong as it points to a place that doesn't exist..
[11:06] <Brianetta> Pachad93: You might want to instasll also-mixer and un-mute the headphones
[11:06] <Brianetta> alsa-mixer
[11:06] <henryklyczkowski> People don't upgrade, make clean install.
[11:06] <ango> thanks
[11:06] <Pachad93> i am looking at alsa-mixer right now
[11:06] <kwyjibo> ActionParsnip1: but isn't there a config file somewhere that's running the old command, i can edit?
[11:06] <coz_> Pachad93,  try opening a terminal and typing  alsamixer    see if any of the volume sliders are down low
[11:06] <Pachad93> heaphones are not muted
[11:06] <Pachad93> coz_, not muted
[11:06] <Pachad93> Brianetta, not muted
[11:06] <Pachad93> Brianetta, not muted
[11:06] <Pachad93> woops
[11:06] <coz_> Pachad93,  but are any of the sliders  down low
[11:06] <ActionParsnip1> kwyjibo: not sure there
[11:07] <Pachad93> coz_, nope
[11:07] <kwyjibo> k
[11:07] <coz_> Pachad93,  mm
[11:07] <kwyjibo> does anyone know how to perma-change the default window manager from the command line?
[11:07] <Tobzion> Whell i have a huge Sond lag, first it was mutet but whel i chang the volume ut to the right on desktop i get sound but laggy, and i am totaly new in ubuntu :P
[11:07] <theadmin> Grm. Karmic messed Pidgin up. Popups are at the wrong place
[11:07] <raph_ael> hi, anyone using mocp and experiencing a crash with it ?
[11:08] <Chewtoy> theadmin: Use Emapthy instead?
[11:08] <theadmin> Chewtoy: Good idea.
[11:08] <Pachad93> coz_, I think i found the issue, don't know if this helps
[11:08] <Pachad93> coz_, in alsa mixer, I have the choice between mic jack in or line in
[11:08] <coz_> Pachad93,  what have you found?
[11:08] <henryklyczkowski> I wonder if karmic have more bugs than hardy
[11:09] <Pachad93> coz_, and no volume control
[11:09] <partyhangover> henryklyczkowski: stop wondering
[11:09] <Pachad93> for the mic jack
[11:09] <henryklyczkowski> partyhangover :)
[11:09] <robin0800> Pachad93: alsamixer in terminal
[11:09] <nosklo> Pachad93: run "amixer contents" and pastebin the result
[11:09] <henryklyczkowski> partyhangover U suggest to install karmic?
[11:09] <coz_> Pachad93,   high light that part and push up the with arrows if a volume control ispossible it should open the volume slide
[11:09] <partyhangover> henryklyczkowski: have you upgraded? or waiting to upgrade
[11:10] <partyhangover> henryklyczkowski: why not, always nice to have newer releases, also it looks nicer
[11:10] <Pachad93> pastebin?
[11:10] <henryklyczkowski> partyhangover I'm waiting for LTS
[11:10] <partyhangover> henryklyczkowski: aah thats 10.10
[11:10] <alex_n> hallo
[11:10] <Pachad93> amixer contents
[11:10] <Pachad93> numid=17,iface=MIXER,name='Master Playback Switch'
[11:10] <Pachad93>   ; type=BOOLEAN,access=rw------,values=1
[11:10] <Pachad93>   : values=on
[11:10] <Pachad93> numid=16,iface=MIXER,name='Master Playback Volume'
[11:10] <Pachad93>   ; type=INTEGER,access=rw---R--,values=1,min=0,max=64,step=0
[11:10] <FloodBot3> Pachad93: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:10] <Pachad93>   : values=64
[11:11] <Pachad93>   | dBscale-min=-48.00dB,step=0.75dB,mute=0
[11:11] <Madkiss> wah. apparently, it's waiting until forever.
[11:11] <duncan_> partyhangover, 10.04
[11:11] <Pachad93> numid=11,iface=MIXER,name='Headphone Playback Switch'
[11:11] <henryklyczkowski> partyhangover It took me a long time to set up hardy for working
[11:11] <Pachad93>   ; type=BOOLEAN,access=rw------,values=2
[11:11] <Pachad93>   : values=on,on
[11:11] <Pachad93> numid=10,iface=MIXER,name='Headphone Playback Volume'
[11:11] <Pachad93>   ; type=INTEGER,access=rw---R--,values=2,min=0,max=64,step=0
[11:11] <Pachad93>   | dBscale-min=-51.00dB,step=0.20dB,mute=0
[11:11] <Pachad93> numid=7,iface=MIXER,name='Mic Jack Mode'
[11:11] <Pachad93>   ; type=ENUMERATED,access=rw------,values=1,items=2
[11:11] <partyhangover> duncan_: its not sure,
[11:11] <Pachad93>   ; Item #0 'Mic In'
[11:11] <FloodBot3> Pachad93: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:11] <Pachad93>   ; Item #1 'Line In'
[11:11] <Pachad93>   : values=0
[11:11] <Pachad93> numid=2,iface=MIXER,name='Capture Switch'
[11:11] <raph_ael> uhuh
[11:11] <Pachad93>   ; type=BOOLEAN,access=rw------,values=2
[11:11] <partyhangover> duncan_: could be 10.10 due to some gnome issue
[11:11] <Pachad93>   : values=off,off
[11:11] <nosklo> Pachad93: I said "pastebin" the results.
[11:11] <grawity> Floodbot fail O_o
[11:12] <niko> please Pachad93 stop flooding the channel
[11:12] <duncan_> partyhangover, ah, last I heard they were releasing 10.04 as the end of gnome2 and moving onto 3 after the LTS
[11:12] <vox> he stopped 25 seconds ago.
[11:12] <Pachad93>   ; Item #1 'Digital Mic 1'
[11:12] <Pachad93>   : values=1
[11:12] <Pachad93> numid=12,iface=MIXER,name='Mux Capture Volume'
[11:12] <grawity> vox: Did he?
[11:12] <Pachad93>   ; type=INTEGER,access=rw---R--,values=2,min=0,max=4,step=0
[11:12] <partyhangover> duncan_: could be,
[11:12] <duncan_> vox, apparently not :)
[11:12] <nosklo> the results of amixer contents are very big
[11:12] <vox> ...
[11:12] <partyhangover> Pachad93: use paste
[11:12] <ActionParsnip1> kwyjibo: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=463928  may help
[11:12] <henryklyczkowski> duncan In my opinion 8.04 its most stable
[11:12] <Tobzion> I am woundering whi it says i am banned from Ubuntu-se When i have never been in ther ore used linux before or irssi
[11:12] <generic112> hey, installing 9.10, it seems to have frozen on formatting the swap partition for a few minutes now, any suggestions?
[11:13] <nosklo> wait at least a couple minutes
[11:13] <jhattara> have there been any bigger issues with people updating Jaunty to Karmic ?
[11:13] <partyhangover> Tobzion: maybe someone used your ip
[11:13] <fasta> Is there some official URL which always lists the latest stable Ubuntu release?
[11:13] <grawity> Tobzion: You mean #ubuntu-se?
[11:13] <ActionParsnip1> Tobzion: then ask in #freenode
[11:13] <fasta> I mean stable over multiple years.
[11:13] <Tobzion> grawity: Yes
[11:13] <generic112> fasta: LTS is always listed on ubuntu.com
[11:13] <smego> hi
[11:13] <duncan_> henryklyczkowski, aye it is, i'm just wanting 10.04 as kernel and drivers etc aren't compatable with any of my hardware and I don't want to be doing massive leaps in kernel versions, etc
[11:14] <fasta> generic112, I mean in a format where a program can find it.
[11:14] <Pachad93> nosklo ?
[11:14] <vox> Pachad93: use a pastebin.
[11:14] <Pachad93> vox, http://paste.ubuntu.com/304950/
[11:14] <nosklo> Pachad93: I said "pastebin" the results.
[11:14] <Pachad93> nosklo, http://paste.ubuntu.com/304950/
[11:14] <keebus1> hello everyone :)
[11:14] <Pachad93> I was banned - don't think you could see me typing
[11:14] <DigitalKiwi> Pachad93: that was the idea
[11:14] <henryklyczkowski> duncan_ What do you mean by not compatible?
[11:14] <generic112> \d+\.d+ LTS regular expression would find it on the download page :)
[11:14] <grawity> Pachad93: You were banned because you were flooding the channel with a ton of lines from amixer.
[11:15] <Pachad93> That was an accident
[11:15] <Pachad93> Hardly ban-worthy
[11:15] <duncan_> henryklyczkowski, hardware not supported by drivers, for example my laptop requires at least the 2.6.30 kernel to be able to suspend and hibernate
[11:15] <vox> the ban stops your client from sending anything to channel
[11:15] <generic112> can anyone help me with my installer freezeup?
[11:15] <Pachad93> I had the results in my buffer instead of the web address
[11:15] <ActionParsnip1> Pachad93: i've been banned for less
[11:15] <keebus1> Just a quick question, I'm looking for some aid I couldn't find by myself googling around: Since revision 14 of the kernel 2.6.31 (the karmic built-in kernel version), my console, since it starts booting, get spammed by messages like "CPU0: Temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled"
[11:15] <nosklo> Pachad93: what are you using as sound source to test?
[11:16] <ActionParsnip1> Pachad93: i was banned for using away then back
[11:16] <Pachad93> nosklo, vlc
[11:16] <lianimator> hi. I've just installed 9.10 and I'm stuck on a commandline terminal login with a blinking screen.. and half of what I type does not get typed. please help
[11:16] <henryklyczkowski> duncan_ Some other issues?
[11:16] <Pachad93> nosklo, ubuntu system sounds and youtube doesn't work either
[11:16] <ActionParsnip1> lianimator: clean install or upgrade?
[11:16] <keebus1> I can't move to a console by CTRL+ALT+Fx because it gets soon full of those messages and I can't type anything.
[11:16] <ango> thanks whoever that was that told me how to kill gdm my screen res is right now
[11:16] <c3l_> I cant get my 5.1 sound system to work (9.10) sound is only playing from front left+right
[11:16] <keebus1> is anyone experiencing the same?
[11:16] <lianimator> ActionParsnip1: clean
[11:17] <ActionParsnip1> lianimator: did yo umd5 check and check the CD once booted to?
[11:17] <duncan_> henryklyczkowski, my desktop wouldn't even boot last time I checked, on the 8.04 cd
[11:17] <lianimator> ActionParsnip1: have not. will do it now. by the way, it's a NVidia GT 240M, maybe that's the problem? I think it's the usplash that's causing this.
[11:17] <henryklyczkowski> c3l_ Use Xine or amarok
[11:17] <theadmin> Empathy is neat... :D
[11:18] <ActionParsnip1> lianimator: maybe but checking te ISO and CD *BEFORE* install is good
[11:18] <ango> bye
[11:18] <henryklyczkowski> duncan_ Kinda strange
[11:18] <Pachad93> :(
[11:18] <GilJ> Anyone know why my I get fps lag when I play a simple game like teeworlds since I upgraded from 9.04 (no framelag there) to 9.10?
[11:19] <duncan_> henryklyczkowski, desktop has AMD 770 chipset for a phenon II CPU, which was released in the last few months
[11:19] <c3l_> henryklyczkowski, I am trying to use amarok, but I cant even add music to the playlist with it :S
[11:19] <isolatedsh33p> guys, i need help. My ubuntu is dead after trying to install 9.10
[11:19] <henryklyczkowski> duncan_ I ran 8.04 on 300 MHZ old pc
[11:19] <fjafjan> Ello
[11:20] <thedude42> GilJ, are you using a nonfree video driver?
[11:20] <fjafjan> I've got some problems updating my repositories
[11:20] <Brianetta> ah crap, the gedit gpg plugin has vanished from Karmic
[11:20] <fjafjan> I get 404 errors from the server
[11:20] <fjafjan> I AM running from a live CD
[11:20] <GilJ> thedude42: Don't know, how do I check what driver I use?
[11:20] <duncan_> henryklyczkowski, aye older harder isn't a problem it's brand new hardware that causes issues
[11:20] <fjafjan> Though really all I want to do is burn a DVD from an Image
[11:21] <ActionParsnip1> fjafjan: can you use http://pastebin.com to provide your /etc/apt/sources.list file please
[11:21] <fjafjan> (need new repos to install DVD burner)
[11:21] <Pachad93>       ___
[11:21] <Pachad93>      //  7
[11:21] <Pachad93>     (_,_/\
[11:21] <Pachad93>      \    \
[11:21] <Pachad93>       \    \
[11:21] <FloodBot3> Pachad93: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:21] <thedude42> gilj well if you didn't install it yourself or tell ubuntu to install it, chances are that the answer is no.... but you can look in the loaded modules to see what video module you are running
[11:21] <Pachad93>       _\    \__
[11:21] <Pachad93>      (   \     )
[11:21] <Pachad93>       \___\___/
[11:21] <fjafjan> ActionParsnip1: Thanks!
[11:21] <henryklyczkowski> duncan_ Well now they produce for quantity not quality
[11:21] <henryklyczkowski> Pachad93 ?
[11:21] <Pachad93> mistell
[11:21] <Brianetta> jussi01: How do you request a part, without kicking?
[11:22] <danitetuscs> what happened with the ubuntu repositories????
[11:22] <Pachad93> was typing that into world of warcraft
[11:22] <fjafjan> ActionParsnip1:  How do I use pastebin?
[11:22] <duncan_> the giant penis of doom
[11:22] <fjafjan> ie what should I paste
[11:22] <da65> hi, is the a torrent link for 9.10 plz
[11:22] <jussi01> duncan_: please dont
[11:22] <ActionParsnip1> jussi01: s/he was just moaning about being banned from another channel, ironic huh
[11:22] <GilJ> thedude42: intel_agp
[11:22] <Yoshi47> can someone kick Pachad93 out!
[11:22] <janhaj> hello.. i have a tv tuner Gigabyte U8000. In linux work only dvb-t. In jaunty, dvb-t works fine, in Karmic doesn't. Dmesg is OK, but me-tv, totem, vlc seize up.,, does anyone know way to resolve this problem?
[11:22] <doktor_dre> hello
[11:22] <henryklyczkowski> danitetuscs They disappeared like Michael Jackson
[11:22] <ActionParsnip1> fjafjan: copy the contents of the file, paste to the site and add your name. When the page changes. Give the addess of the new page
[11:22] <duncan_> jussi01, sorry, couldn't resist commenting on the ASCII
[11:22] <danitetuscs> lol
[11:22] <sipior> Yoshi47: already done, i believe.
[11:22] <Tiders> danitetuscs, If you mean because theyu are so slow its because everyone is downloading Karmic or updating their karmic etc all at once
[11:23] <Yoshi47> thanks
[11:23] <bibstha> not all apps now show icon in taskbar??
[11:23] <bibstha> what heppend?
[11:23] <bibstha> like gnome-do
[11:23] <danitetuscs> the servers are down??
[11:23] <bibstha> doesnot show icon
[11:23] <doktor_dre> is there some global music volume controller in ubuntu? the sound volume is much lower than what I have in windows!
[11:23] <FloodBot3> bibstha: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:23] <fjafjan> ActionParsnip1:  What file? My sources.list?
[11:23] <Pachad93> I'm sorry, is posting ascii not allowed?
[11:23] <ActionParsnip1> fjafjan: please
[11:23] <bibstha> any one got any idea why?
[11:23] <jussi01> !guidelines | Pachad93
[11:23] <Pachad93> thanks
[11:23] <ActionParsnip1> Pachad93: text is technically ascii
[11:23] <Tiders> bibstha, Im able to download from them
[11:23] <Chewtoy> da65: Yeah. http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors#bt
[11:23] <Oegly> I just installed Karmic through Wubi. When I try to boot it, I get the GRUB commandline. How do I boot Ubunto from there?
[11:23] <da65> ty
[11:23] <fjafjan> http://pastebin.com/mf549e97
[11:23] <Pachad93> ActionParsnip1, silly, you know what I mean :)
[11:24] <Pachad93> ActionParsnip1, but yes, spot on
[11:24] <doktor_dre> is there some global music volume controller in ubuntu? the sound volume is much lower than what I have in windows!
[11:24] <lianimator> how do I disable the usplash of an installed system from a liveCD?
[11:24] <janhaj> hello.. i have a tv tuner Gigabyte U8000. In linux work only dvb-t. In jaunty, dvb-t works fine, in Karmic doesn't. Dmesg is OK, but me-tv, totem, vlc seize up.,, does anyone know way to resolve this problem?
[11:24] <ce_imoet> ae
[11:24] <nathan7> ea
[11:24] <ActionParsnip1> Pachad93: and yo uwere moaning about being banned from the other channel
[11:24] <Grozzy> Ubuntu one not working ;]
[11:24] <amikrop> Hello, if I try to create an audio CD with a single mp3 of 1h 40m will the burn be successful, though, the mp3 will be cut at 80m?
[11:24] <Pachad93> ActionParsnip1, I was?
[11:24] <Pachad93> what?
[11:24] <nathan7> amikrop: It is converted to wav
[11:24] <amikrop> Or the burn will fail altogether?
[11:24] <ActionParsnip1> fjafjan: ok cool, that is a Gutsy CD
[11:25] <Sarge_TJ> Does anyone know when ubuntu one is going to be upgraded to a working version?
[11:25] <nathan7> amikrop: If it gets  cut off at 80min
[11:25] <ActionParsnip1> fjafjan: gutsy is dead
[11:25] <fjafjan> Is there anywhere I can get basic gutsu repos?
[11:25] <doktor_dre> is there some global music volume controller in ubuntu? the sound volume is much lower than what I have in windows!
[11:25] <nosklo> fjafjan: upgrade to hardy
[11:25] <fjafjan> Should be an archive somewhere no?
[11:25] <nathan7> amikrop: Make sure you use a data cd format
[11:25] <fjafjan> Yeah except that is a huge problem
[11:25] <nathan7> amikrop: And it wont get cut off
[11:25] <ActionParsnip1> fjafjan: possibly but i very much doubt it
[11:25] <grawity> fjafjan: oldreleases.ubuntu.com?
[11:25] <Pachad93> is anyone going to be helping me with my headphone jack issue?
[11:25] <fjafjan> thank you grawity
[11:25] <ActionParsnip1> fjafjan: you want at least hardy
[11:25] <amikrop> nathan7: will it get automatically cut at 80min (by Brasero, or Gnomebaker, or...)?
[11:25] <lockd> is there any documentation to remove PulseAudio? Several apps use over 200% CPU time when using pulse
[11:25] <nathan7> amikrop: Depends
[11:25] <fjafjan> Basically I can not burn CDs as I cannot access any working OS
[11:25] <amikrop> nathan7: I want to create an audio CD, not a data CD
[11:26] <fjafjan> And it seems this live CD does not have a burner built in
[11:26] <amikrop> (to play it at old CD players)
[11:26] <Pachad93> Can someone please help me with my headphone jack not working under ubuntu?
[11:26] <nathan7> amikrop: Then it gets cut off
[11:26] <Grozzy> How can i start the "System > Preferences > Sound" From terminal, it seems like it is not there wehen I look for it
[11:26] <lockd> I have actually removed the packages, and the gstreamer plugin. now, the only thing left is allowing Gnome's sound preferences to control alsa
[11:26] <amikrop> nathan7: so, will the burn be succesful but cut, or fail altogether?
[11:26] <Oegly> Excuse me, would anyone know how to solve my GRUB problem?
[11:26] <ActionParsnip1> fjafjan: latest release is karmic but jaunty is still pretty good and has 12 months support left in it
[11:26] <Pachad93> Can someone please help me with my headphone jack not working under ubuntu?
[11:26] <amikrop> nathan7: oh, so it will be successful but cut
[11:26] <amikrop> that's ok
[11:26] <fjafjan> Look I know there are more recent releases, the problem is I can not install them
[11:26] <ActionParsnip1> amikrop: you will need to edit the source mp3
[11:26] <Oli``> Where is the Ubuntu Keyserver? I need it up >_<
[11:26] <amikrop> I mean, I will be able to play the CD and listen normally until 80min
[11:26] <nathan7> amikrop: I guess brasero will ask to cut it off
[11:27] <fasta> Pachad93, probably you didn't raise the volume.
[11:27] <partyhangover> Pachad93: what you men not working? did you check under sound preferences
[11:27] <mikunos> Hi guys how can I connect with my server using the VPN? I have all the parameters but when I try to use the network-manager under gnome it refuse the connection. My parameters are pptp server ip, userid, password and Ip Drac Card, Netmask, Gateway. Does anybody here help me to configure this VPN connection?
[11:27] <nathan7> amikrop: Yeah
[11:27] <grawity> Oli``: If you want to download a key, try pool.sks-keyservers.net instead.
[11:27] <fasta> Pachad93, or the switch for the head phone.
[11:27] <amikrop> ActionParsnip1: manually? won't my burner do that itself?
[11:27] <partyhangover> Pachad93: see sound preferences>input >
[11:27] <amikrop> nathan7: ok, thank you :)
[11:27] <ActionParsnip1> fjafjan: gutsy isnt supported now the official repos don't have gutsy packages on so you will only have the install CD for packages
[11:28] <Pachad93> partyhangover, I see internal audio analog stereo
[11:28] <ActionParsnip1> amikrop: its not the burners job. The burners job is to make sure the data does not overflow the disk, then to put the data on the disk once everything is ok
[11:28] <Pachad93> fasta, switch for headphone?
[11:28] <partyhangover> Pachad93: ya there aer many tabs in preferences like hardware, input etc
[11:28]  * nathan7 is happy now
[11:28] <Pachad93> partyhangover, right.
[11:28] <partyhangover> Pachad93: check input and select some other mic like mic 2 or line in
[11:29] <doktor_dre> is there some global music volume controller in ubuntu? the sound volume is much lower than what I have in windows!
[11:29] <partyhangover> Pachad93: also which application are you using to test microphone , use sound recorder
[11:29] <Pachad93> I can't. Under input, there's only one device AND this isn't a mic issue it's a headphone issue
[11:29] <Sarge_TJ> My ubuntu one doesn't work. Googling says I should perform a post-installation upgrade of ubuntu one, but there's no upgrade available yet?
[11:29] <partyhangover> Pachad93: sorry
[11:30] <partyhangover> Pachad93: headphone problem then?
[11:30] <ActionParsnip1> Sarge_TJ: tried reinstalling the client?
[11:30] <partyhangover> Pachad93: where are you plugging it in
[11:30] <igama> Sarge_TJ, is you need an update
[11:30] <Pachad93> partyhangover, into the headphone slot
[11:30] <bad_alloc> hello, i have a problem with evince: every time i try to pint out a pdf document vertically it discards it an prints it horizontally. how do i fix this? (ubuntu 8.10, printer is an hp deskjet 520)
[11:30] <partyhangover> Pachad93: and does the sound get muted
[11:30] <Pachad93> partyhangover, the same slot that functioned perfectly in windows
[11:30] <Pachad93> partyhangover, only with headphones. my laptop speakers work fine
[11:30] <janhaj> i have a tv tuner Gigabyte U8000. In linux work only dvb-t. In jaunty, dvb-t works fine, in Karmic doesn't. Dmesg is OK, but me-tv, totem, vlc seize up.,, does anyone know way to resolve this problem?
[11:31] <partyhangover> janhaj: in lspci what is the card recognised as
[11:31] <igama> Sarge_TJ, go to Synaptic -> Settings -> Repositoris and activate the Updates repositorie .
[11:31] <Varan> Should Ubuntu One work? ... it says here it has compatibility issues ... should i just wait or is something wrong?
[11:31] <igama> bad_alloc, there are some bugs in Evince in the printing part, try using another
[11:31] <tmx> hello everybody
[11:31] <igama> Varan, you need to update.
[11:31] <Pachad93> I'm going to cry :(
[11:32] <Pachad93> I've been trying to get this headpone thing to work for 4 hours
[11:32] <Pachad93> my wife is shouting at me
[11:32] <ActionParsnip1> Varan: try reinstalling the client
[11:32] <lianimator> ActionParsnip1: I did md5sum on the iso and checked for defects on the CD. no errors.
[11:32] <bad_alloc> igama: what do you recommend?
[11:32] <Varan> hmm
[11:32] <fasta> Pachad93, install a different wife?
[11:32] <Pachad93> fasta, har har
[11:32] <partyhangover> Pachad93: what iam asking is, when you plug in the headphones does sound mute
[11:32] <Pachad93> partyhangover, yes.
[11:32] <ActionParsnip1> lianimator: cool, maybe some boot options will work or maybe you need to download the driver and install it outside of the desktop, then attempt a graphical boot
[11:32] <ionte> hi. i just have no access with my (wired) apple keyboard and ubuntu (9.04 and 9.10): i can't get alt-gr to work. it worked with 9.04. and strangely it still works in gnome terminal, but not in gedit, firefox, etc ...
[11:32] <ionte> no success...
[11:32] <fjafjan> grawity: Thank you! Using the archives worked
[11:32] <Pachad93> partyhangover, no sound from speakers or headphones
[11:33] <partyhangover> Pachad93: hmm plug it into another sockeet then
[11:33] <igama> Varan and bad_alloc , System -> Administration -> Synaptic : Settings -> Repositories -> Updates and activate Karmic-Updates
[11:33] <Pachad93> partyhangover, i only have one socket
[11:33] <partyhangover> Pachad93: try the line in
[11:33] <partyhangover> Pachad93: damn !
[11:33] <igama> Varan and bad_alloc , then just update the packges in your system
[11:33] <ce_imoet> ae
[11:33] <Mesaph> hi there. I need help installing ubuntu onto my notebook. I don't have got a cd-drive, so i've got to use an usb-stick. I tried unetbootin an usb-creator, but it doesn't work. I am able to boot from the stick, but at the beginning of the installation i get squashfs-errors or the display turns dark. Any ideas?
[11:33] <lianimator> ActionParsnip1: I can't even login because the blinking causes some keys to disappear.. my password is never correctly typed
[11:33] <SurfyDudee> does 9.10 have better support for usb wifi then 9.04?
[11:33] <bad_alloc> okay thanks, bye
[11:33] <Varan> whathmm  ah owke
[11:33] <partyhangover> Pachad93: ok open a terminal and type alsamixer
[11:33] <dalton2345> hi, so how's karmic
[11:33] <igama> Mesaph, try usbuntu
[11:33] <isolatedsh33p> hello guys, my ubuntu is dead, and i don't know how to install from USB. I want to use dual boot, I'm afraid that i would do something wrong that would make me lost everything in my XP. Can anyone help?
[11:33] <ActionParsnip1> lianimator: can you log on to a root recovery console?
[11:33] <janhaj> partyhangover: it is external USB tuner, in lspci i dont see anything..
[11:34] <Mesaph> igama: Okay, thank you.
[11:34] <Pachad93> partyhangover, everything is up way high
[11:34] <partyhangover> Pachad93: then i dont know what the problem is
[11:34] <ActionParsnip1> lianimator: you can install the nvidia driver there
[11:34] <dalton2345> how's karmic guys
[11:34] <isolatedsh33p> hello guys, my ubuntu is dead, and i don't know how to install from USB. I want to use dual boot, I'm afraid that i would do something wrong that would make me lost everything in my XP. Can anyone help?
[11:34] <nosklo> Pachad93: what happens if you remove the speaker and plug your headphones into the same socket?
[11:34] <xenon_karmic> what is difference between Ubuntu Desktop and Server Editions in terms of performance?
[11:34] <lasselasse> karmic' cool
[11:34] <tmx> is this the windows7 support channel ?
[11:34] <ActionParsnip1> dalton2345: been fine since alpha2 here
[11:34] <ActionParsnip1> !windows | tmx
[11:34] <partyhangover> janhaj: lsusb
[11:34] <grawity> tmx: Nope, try ##windows.
[11:34] <lianimator> ActionParsnip1: I'm in the recovery mode now.
[11:34] <dalton2345> ActionParsnip1: is it fast
[11:35] <isolatedsh33p> dalton2345, haven't really installed it. My ubuntu's dead
[11:35]  * grawity 's troll-o-meter is ticking :|
[11:35] <Guitar> hey!
[11:35] <ActionParsnip1> dalton2345: its as fast as you configure it
[11:35] <isolatedsh33p> hello guys, my ubuntu is dead, and i don't know how to install from USB. I want to use dual boot, I'm afraid that i would do something wrong that would make me lost everything in my XP. Can anyone help?
[11:35] <Guitar> cant update my akonadi... what is it?
[11:35] <lianimator> ActionParsnip1:  will try installing the driver
[11:35] <janhaj> partyhangover: please wait, something happen with tuner.. i must reboot
[11:35] <domjohnson> Grr
[11:35] <Pachad93> nosklo, well sir, the speakers are attached to the laptop and they work by default. the issue is when I plug the headphones in. The sounds mutes on the speakers and the headphones do not work
[11:35] <SurfyDudee> does 9.10 have better support for usb wifi then 9.04?
[11:35] <ActionParsnip1> lianimator: if you can get the .run file you can install the driver that way
[11:35] <indus> hello
[11:35] <isolatedsh33p> hello guys, my ubuntu is dead, and i don't know how to install from USB. I want to use dual boot, I'm afraid that i would do something wrong that would make me lost everything in my XP. Can anyone help?
[11:35] <dalton2345> ActionParsnip1: so u like karmic
[11:35] <indus> isolatedsh33p: you need to make a bootable usb disk
[11:35] <c3l_> is there a way to add music to my iPhone through ubuntu?
[11:36] <xenon_karmic> Ubuntu x64 any faster than x86 ?
[11:36] <indus> isolatedsh33p: do you have the 9.10 iso
[11:36] <Varan> why doesn't the update manager popup as an icon in gnome... i keep missing updates ... :(
[11:36] <ActionParsnip1> dalton2345: sure, its working the same as fom gutsy for me. My use is very basic
[11:36] <indus> isolatedsh33p: also, do you have windows
[11:36] <isolatedsh33p> indus, done that. But i don't have the guts to install it using that
[11:36] <Varan> in the systray i mean
[11:36] <c3l_> xenon_karmic, generally x64 is alot faster for heavier processes. about the same for ligh apps
[11:36] <indus> isolatedsh33p: its very easy why\
[11:36] <isolatedsh33p> indus, yes, i'm in XP now
[11:36] <xenon_karmic> ok
[11:36] <indus> isolatedsh33p: so created a bootable usb?
[11:36] <xenon_karmic> and what server edition?
[11:37] <quibbler> join #quickstart
[11:37] <dalton2345> ActionParsnip1: I'm asking cause i will install karmic for a friend..so far it looks good on reviews and here, not many complaints
[11:37] <Drazha> !torrent
[11:37] <isolatedsh33p> indus, i already have that. But i'm afraid if i did something wrong, i will have no dual boot
[11:37] <Drazha> !torrents
[11:37] <AmokPaule2> iso the lastr time i had isses with a lost dual boot was with suse linux like 5 years ago.
[11:37] <ActionParsnip1> Varan: could reinstall update-notifier
[11:37] <Pachad93> No wonder EVE Online isn't supported under Linux anymore. This O/S is getting even more convoluted by the day.
[11:37] <indus> isolatedsh33p: what wrong can you do
[11:37] <SurfyDudee> what is the difference between the cd release and the dvd release?
[11:37] <ActionParsnip1> dalton2345: try it, see how it goes. Thats the idea of the live cd
[11:37] <indus> isolatedsh33p: dont worry its quite simple to install, like a live cd
[11:37] <alankila> Pachad93: true. Linux isn't a very stable target and consequently you can't support it without continuous effort.
[11:37] <isolatedsh33p> indus, during the partition. I'm new to ubuntu. So i dont have the guts
[11:37] <grawity> SurfyDudee: The DVD release has more stuff?
[11:38] <Varan> ActionParsnip1, But it should be notifying me on the icon bar right? ... I have just reinstalled the whole system ...
[11:38] <ActionParsnip1> SurfyDudee: more packages on the DVD
[11:38] <c3l_> xenon_karmic, what do you mean? if your server hardware supports x64 you should definitely use that
[11:38] <indus> isolatedsh33p: just use the automatic partition option then
[11:38] <ActionParsnip1> Varan: not at all, just that app
[11:38] <dalton2345> ActionParsnip1: true, it's why i like live cd :)
[11:38] <indus> isolatedsh33p: why dont you try a wubi install?
[11:38] <Pachad93> All I want is to be able to have sound and EVE Online up and running on WINE
[11:38] <ActionParsnip1> Varan: why would you have to reinstall the whole OS just for a single notifier app
[11:38] <indus> Pachad93: hello iam partypooer
[11:38] <ActionParsnip1> Varan: makes no sense at all
[11:38] <SurfyDudee> does anyone here help make ubuntu i have a request
[11:38] <isolatedsh33p> indus, i've installed 9.04 before. But it's dead because one of the volume can't be mounted
[11:38] <BusMaster> I get a "Capabilities Mismatch" error in my just upgraded karmic. Google tells me to apt-get update and apt-get upgrade, but apt tells me that my ubuntu One is the most recent version. How should I make it work?
[11:38] <Pachad93> I am stuck at the sound part currently
[11:38] <Varan> ActionParsnip1, I didn't say i am going to do that ... i said i just did that ...
[11:38] <Pachad93> I -dread- trying to get wine to work for EVE Online
[11:39] <Azeotrope> how can I make a shortcut to irssi to be opened with the "irssi" gnome-terminal profile? also with geometry  183x52
[11:39] <isolatedsh33p> indus, what's a wubi install?
[11:39] <c3l_> is there a way to add music to my iPhone through ubuntu?
[11:39] <xenon_karmic> c3l_, I want to install on my laptop ( i do web-development using apache-server and mysql and my laptop supports x64 )
[11:39] <AmokPaule2> isolatedsh33p if something goes wrong it will most likly only something with the boiotloader and you can easlie recover that with the windows install cd
[11:39] <ActionParsnip1> Varan: sudo apt-get --purge remove update-notifier*; sudo apt-get --purge autoremove; sudo apt-get install update-notifier
[11:39] <indus> isolatedsh33p: it lets you install ubuntu from inside windows like a piece of software
[11:39] <Varan> ill try
[11:39] <raid0> hello
[11:39] <nosklo> AmokPaule2: check "man gnome-terminal" for how you load a profile
[11:39] <nosklo> ops
[11:39] <janhaj> partyhangover: i am here.. in lsusb http://paste.ubuntu.com/304964/
[11:39] <nosklo> Azeotrope: check "man gnome-terminal" for how you load a profile
[11:39] <indus> isolatedsh33p: iam not sure its possible from a usb disk though
[11:39] <isolatedsh33p> AmokPaule2, i don't have windows CD :/
[11:39] <jezlee> hi, using 9.10 and nvidia 185 - I receive error when saving resolution to X configuration file
[11:40] <indus> isolatedsh33p: explore the usb and click on wubi.exe
[11:40] <indus> isolatedsh33p: rest is automatic
[11:40] <ActionParsnip1> jezlee: whats the error?
[11:40] <janhaj> partyhangover: and this is dmesg.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/304965/
[11:40] <isolatedsh33p> indus, ok
[11:40] <indus> isolatedsh33p: do you see a wubi.exr, its there
[11:40] <GilJ> Are there any known issues with the "Intel 965 GM" video card?
 Failed to parse existing X config file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'!
[11:41] <indus> janhaj: excellent, seems fine, try software tvtime
[11:41] <ActionParsnip1> jezlee: yeah karmic doesnt have an xorg.conf file (annoyingly). You can make one by running: sudo nvidia-xconfig
[11:41] <c3l_> xenon_karmic, if the hardware supports x64 it is prefered to run x64. the system will be backward compatible for apps that are only x32 (x86). but most apps are built for both 32 and 64 these days. (i've been running x64 ststems on my desktop and server for a long time, never had problems with apps etc)
[11:41] <Pachad93> I give up. Linux isn't for me. I am literally going to shut this thing down and buy Windows 7 Ultimate tomorrow.
[11:41] <Pachad93> Thanks for -trying- to help me.
[11:41] <isolatedsh33p> indus, there's no such file
[11:42] <raid0> Can i have 4 desktops on compiz? while Horisontal virtual size is 4 on Desktop panel size of compizconfig/general options, and i see-use 4 virtual desktops, i cant work with them with devilspie (probably need 4true desktops, and not 4 virtual)
[11:42] <indus> Pachad93: oh wait will you
[11:42] <Pachad93> I'm tired of this crap. The sound at least should work out of the boxc
[11:42] <ActionParsnip1> Pachad93: try a different distro
[11:42] <janhaj> indus: in tvtime can i play dvb-t?
[11:42] <janhaj> indus: because analog is not working..
[11:42] <indus> janhaj: ok sorry whats dvb-t
[11:42] <ActionParsnip1> Pachad93: there is a WHOLE lot more to linux than just ubuntu
[11:42] <Pachad93> ActionParsnip1, that was my last cd-r and my last grain of patience
[11:42] <indus> !sound
[11:42] <Pachad93> ActionParsnip1, but what distro would you recommend just in case?
[11:42] <ActionParsnip1> Pachad93: your call. there is a lot better than ubuntu
[11:42] <indus> !sound | Pachad93
[11:42] <Madkiss> in karmic, how do I enable the NFS statd?
[11:43] <raid0> im using compiz on Gnome , ubuntu 9.10 with Nvidia drivers installed
[11:43] <janhaj> indus: what is dvb-t? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVB-T
[11:43] <ActionParsnip1> Pachad93: suse, fedora, mandriva, debian, pcbsd
[11:43] <AmokPaule2> But from those ubuntu is best i think
[11:43] <c3l_> Pachad93, oh no, you just cant. whats wrong with ubuntu, its super easy and works perfectly
[11:43] <BoredKender> is anyone else having this problem? after upgrading to karmic my speakers keep popping, even on mute
[11:43] <Pachad93> ActionParsnip1, Fedora and Debian - between the two?
[11:43] <Tex_Willer> Hello everyone
[11:43] <zyxxy> BoredKender, yes, i have it too
[11:44] <Pachad93> c3l_, apparently it's not super easy
[11:44] <ActionParsnip1> Pachad93: i'd shoot for fedora, debian is too close to the ubuntu you are disliking
[11:44] <BoredKender> zyxxy, laptop?
 That worked, thankyou!
[11:44] <zyxxy> BoredKender, no
[11:44] <blizzkid> Pachad93: stay away from RPM-based distro's afaic
[11:44] <indus> janhaj: ok i dont know all that but if you tv comes from a coaxial cable i too have the same, its analog transmission
[11:44] <ActionParsnip1> jezlee: sweet
[11:44] <Pachad93> blizzkid, RPM is fedora
[11:44] <zyxxy> the pop is just there wenn an application plays sound after the sound system has been completely idle
[11:44] <c3l_> Pachad93, what is failing?
[11:44] <blizzkid> Pachad93: Fedora is RPM-based yes
[11:44] <Tex_Willer> i'm having a  problem booting ubuntu...anyone could please help me?
[11:44] <zyxxy> e.g. the first time some application appears in the sound settings panel
[11:44] <Pachad93> c3l_, headphone jack
[11:44] <sixfish> guys, my ubuntu that i ust innstaled , grub is missing menu.lst i have a vista partition. can someone help me out
[11:44] <Pachad93> blizzkid, what's wrong with it?
[11:44] <ActionParsnip1> Pachad93: rpm is fine, its just a different packaging method, suse uses rpm and is pretty groovy
[11:44] <zyxxy> when i play a silent mp3 in the background, the pop isn't there
[11:45] <blizzkid> Pachad93: rpm's dependancy handling is inferior to deb's
[11:45] <AmokPaule2> Tex_Willer just write your issue if someone knows a solotion they will post :)
[11:45] <ActionParsnip1> Pachad93: explore linux, ubuntu is just an easy starting block
[11:45] <c3l_> Pachad93, ohh, sounds like the hardware is a bit strange, those kinds of stuff has always worked for me in any linux dists
[11:45] <janhaj> indus: yes, from coaxial cable, but for analog and fm radio linux does not have codec..
[11:45] <ActionParsnip1> blizzkid: i'd argue differently as would the many red hat certified engineers
[11:45] <SurfyDudee> why the fuccccck wont my wifi usb work in ubuntu
[11:46] <indus> janhaj: says who
[11:46] <blizzkid> ActionParsnip1: obviously RHCE wouldn't say RH sucks... duhu
[11:46] <janhaj> indus: i read it on the internet..
[11:46] <BoredKender> !sound
[11:46] <ActionParsnip1> SurfyDudee: run: sudo lshw -C network | grep product
[11:46] <Tex_Willer> ok i installed from cd karmic 9.10 with separate /home and root partitions in ext4  i also have window Xp installed in a ntfs partition when the install finishes i get the messages grub loading and then error: no such partiton grub rescue >
[11:46] <indus> janhaj: i watch tv well on my pc
[11:46] <BoredKender> double-clicking the volume control is not working...
[11:47] <ActionParsnip1> blizzkid: its not any worse, its just different. if deb was superior then all distros would use it
[11:47] <theadmin> ...you people did some horrible thing to notification library. It pops up not where it's supposed to but in a middle of a screen
[11:47] <indus> janhaj: i have a pinnacle tvtuner card with fm radio
[11:47] <janhaj> indus: yes.. but for my tv tuner probably isn't codec.. i have gigabyte..
[11:47] <ActionParsnip1> SurfyDudee: one of the lines will identify the chip, you can thn websearch that text
[11:47] <patrik> Hi I'm trying to get an emerald theme working. I've installed it but how do I enable it?
[11:47] <blizzkid> ActionParsnip1: that's BS, analogy: why doesn't Windows use ext, we all know it's superior to ntfs...
[11:47] <lockd> theadmin: yeah, I noticed that, I switched to notification-daemon
[11:47] <ActionParsnip1> theadmin: i did no such thing
[11:48] <theadmin> lockd: notification-daemon? Thanks, will try out.
[11:48] <indus> janhaj: could you try tvtime
[11:48] <ActionParsnip1> blizzkid: well its worked for MS since windows NT
[11:48] <janhaj> indus: ok.. i am installing..
[11:48] <blizzkid> ActionParsnip1: I've had far much trouble using rpm than deb when it comes to dependencies
[11:48] <c3l_> How do I mount all entries in fstab in ubuntu? 'normally' its  # mount -a though this doesnt work
[11:48] <indus> janhaj: it works fine really
[11:48] <Tex_Willer> i installed from cd karmic 9.10 with separate /home and root partitions in ext4  i also have window Xp installed in a ntfs partition when the install finishes i get the messages grub loading and then error: no such partiton grub rescue >
[11:48] <lockd> it's not "pretty", but i noticed notify-osd hitting 20% cpu time, and that's a waste
[11:49] <ActionParsnip1> blizzkid: ive had no  trouble with either, just because you had an issue doesnt necesarily mean every body else has
[11:49] <indus> janhaj: its recognised correctly by the kernel, please also give me dmesg output
[11:49] <kate__> why does ubuntu freeze whenever im trying to watch porn
[11:49] <theadmin> How do i use notification-daemon? Installed it, now what?
[11:49] <lianimator> ActionParsnip1: I installed the driver from the recovery console. thanks
[11:49] <janhaj> indus: http://paste.ubuntu.com/304965/
[11:50] <ActionParsnip1> lianimator: awesome, wtg :D
[11:50] <ActionParsnip1> theadmin: run it would be my guess
[11:50] <alabd> Good day every one , Can we copy historical materials and definitions from a FDL book and relicense it ?
[11:50] <indus> janhaj: thats lsusb paste but nvm
[11:50] <indus> janhaj: i dont know whetehr radio will work but here http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Gigabyte_U8000-RH
[11:50] <ActionParsnip1> !ot | alabd
[11:50] <poosz> ActionParsnip1 what will that do?
[11:51] <theadmin> Gotta reebot, i guess.
[11:51] <theadmin> reboot*
[11:51] <blizzkid> ActionParsnip1: true, but I'm talking about the way it deals with them... rpm -i package_a --> depends package_b... rpm -i package_b --> depends package_a... rpm -i package_a package_be --> error. dpkg -i package_a --> depends package_b... dpkg -i package_b --> depends package_b... dpkg -i package_a package_b --> installs
[11:51] <ActionParsnip1> poosz: what will what do?
[11:51] <kate__> so yeah.  firefox sucks
[11:51] <theadmin> It has to replace libnotify or whatever it was... right?
[11:51] <janhaj> indus: Currently only DVB-T digital TV/HDTV is working because there is no driver written for the CX25843-24Z audio/video decoder which is probably used for the analogue TV/FM radio portion of the device.
[11:51] <ActionParsnip1> blizzkid: urpmi resolves deps
[11:51] <indus> janhaj: but wait, first try with tvtime, i dont think you need drivers for this
[11:51] <theadmin> kate__: Use Opera then...
[11:51] <kate__> glad im talking to myself
[11:51] <Surfydudez> sudo lshw -C network | grep product'
[11:51] <Surfydudez> what will that do
[11:51] <indus> janhaj: ya and? do you want radio?
[11:52] <blizzkid> ActionParsnip1: but urpmi is not the default, right?
[11:52] <janhaj> indus: analog tv and radio is not working in linux, with this tuner..
[11:52] <indus> janhaj: aah ok you need analog
[11:52] <indus> janhaj: oh iam so sorry
[11:52] <shredder12> I am doing a reinstallation..How do i back up my thunderbird profile???
[11:52] <indus> janhaj: wait 1 min
[11:52] <ActionParsnip1> blizzkid: is in mandriva and suse afaik
[11:52] <ActionParsnip1> Surfydudez: that will list the network hardware but only output the product line for each device
[11:52] <janhaj> indus: i want dvb-t.. but tvtime plays only analog or no?
[11:52] <Surfydudez> ok
[11:52] <Surfydudez> will that fix it
[11:52] <ActionParsnip1> Surfydudez: one will be the wifi device and you can websearch away
[11:52] <blizzkid> ActionParsnip1: ok, that's 2 distros I'll personally never use again :)
[11:52] <acj> ola
[11:53] <blizzkid> _personally_
[11:53] <indus> janhaj: ya both i think, but i suggest you try tune first with it
[11:53] <kate__> tried that, anytime i play video in a browser it will randomly freeze. i turned off desktop effects and everything, im on an acer aspire one
[11:53] <ActionParsnip1> blizzkid: glad i could educate a little
[11:53] <indus> janhaj: i dont know dvb t or a b c d e and all that
[11:53] <Tex_Willer> Anyone knows how to fix a boot problem with Grub?
[11:53] <c3l_> VirtualBox OSE doesnt support usb. how do I get a virtual system that allows usb connections?
[11:53] <ActionParsnip1> Surfydudez: it wont fix it, it will tell you what it is so you can find guides
[11:53] <indus> janhaj: yours is analog i believe
[11:53] <blizzkid> ActionParsnip1: not because of the urpmi, but I had bad experiences in the past with Suse (although that was looooooong ago)
[11:53] <slacker_nl> :/
[11:53] <Surfydudez> ActionParsnip1: Will that make it work
[11:54] <slacker_nl> #ubuntu+1 is redirected to #ubuntu..
[11:54] <shredder12> anybody knows how to back up and restore your thunderbird data??
[11:54] <ActionParsnip1> blizzkid: its probably better now due to time, ubuntu has come a long way too, so has suse
[11:54] <ActionParsnip1> Surfydudez: once you find a good guide, yes
[11:54] <natschil> is it possible to use the live cd to help you upgrade from jaunty to karmic, as my internet connection is really slow so I don't want to download as much.
[11:54] <janhaj> indus: analog does not work anywhere in linux.. in jaunty i play only dvb-t which you don't know..
[11:55] <blizzkid> ActionParsnip1: sure, but you know how it goes... ubuntu never let me down, has always just worked for me, while suse at that time was a mess
[11:55] <ActionParsnip1> natschil: no, you must use the alternative
[11:55] <indus> janhaj: iam using analog buddy
[11:55] <Surfydudez> good guide?
[11:55] <indus> janhaj: but my tuner is different
[11:55] <slacker_nl> shredder12: tar zcvf thunderbird.tgz  $HOME/.mozilla-thunderbird
[11:55] <indus> janhaj: what do you mean doesnt work anywhere
[11:55] <ActionParsnip1> Surfydudez: i havent seen your output so I cant advise anything at all
[11:55] <janhaj> indus: tvtime does not working..
[11:55] <grawity> slacker_nl: I thought it's ~/.thunderbird
[11:55] <Surfydudez> ok
[11:55] <ActionParsnip1> blizzkid: maybe for you but for others they prefer it
[11:55] <slacker_nl> grawity: not on my box
[11:55] <natschil> ActionParsnip1: no workaround?
[11:56]  * natschil starts downloading the alternative
[11:56] <c3l_> how do I sync a jailbroken iphone 3gs in linux?
[11:56] <slacker_nl> grawity: but making a copy of $HOME is better (imo)
[11:56] <indus> janhaj: do you see any messages?  also check this one http://linuxtv.org/pipermail/linux-dvb/2008-August/028108.html
[11:56] <janhaj> indus: i test it in ubuntu 8.10 in 9.04..
[11:56] <ActionParsnip1> natschil: to what?
[11:56] <shredder12> slacker_nl: and will extracting it on the new system restore it??
[11:56] <indus> janhaj: test what
[11:56] <blizzkid> ActionParsnip1: yes, ofcourse, anyway, my point was you said rpm is not inferior because ao RHCE disagree... Well.. the majority can be wrong... (cfr Betamax/VHS)
[11:56] <natschil> ActionParsnip1: to use things on the live cd for an upgrade
[11:56] <JoshStrobl> good morning peeps
[11:57] <JoshStrobl> isn't Koala AWESOME!!!
[11:57] <wizztjh_> hi
[11:58] <ActionParsnip1> natschil: there is but its not advised, yu can run therough the installer, use custom partitoning then thell the installer not to format the system, then the files will be updated but it can possibly REALLY screw your system so I DO NOT ADVISE THIS. I only read this was possible but have never tried it
[11:58] <janhaj> indus: frames too short from uvcvideo... i try install, what i saw in internet, but no answer
[11:58] <theadmin> damn no, it still pops up at wrong place
[11:58] <ActionParsnip1> blizzkid: rpm is just different, its not inferior
[11:58] <sixfish> my grub has no menu.lst what do i do ??? anyone ?
[11:58] <indus> janhaj: you are using wrong device,
[11:58]  * blizzkid thinks Ubuntu certification being based on LPIC is totally ridiculous... why learn about RPM for UBUNTU certification???
[11:58] <natschil> ActionParsnip1: I don't think I'll risk it.
[11:58] <indus> janhaj: i had that message cos it was reading from webcam on video0
[11:58] <joaopinto> ActionParsnip1, there is nothing wrong with using that option, install without formatting
[11:59] <indus> janhaj: try tvtime --device /dev/video1
[11:59] <ActionParsnip1> joaopinto: i just don't like it and only read it somewhere so I am making myself clear :)
[11:59] <blizzkid> ActionParsnip1: we agree to disagree... for me RPM is inferior to deb just like ntfs is inferior to ext
[11:59] <ASrock> hello, i am using ubuntu 9.10 and i have an nvidia geforce 8600gt with dual monitors but the one on the left seems to be the default display, how do i change it so the right side one is?
[11:59] <ActionParsnip1> blizzkid: thats fine with me
[11:59] <indus> janhaj: i suggest forget about dvb t tech terms etc , install the drivers then try with tvtime
[11:59] <wizztjh_> i have a problem with apt-get , i install php5 but i control-c when installing and i install it again and php5 wont work ... i try to remove the thing and install again , but it dont seems to work as well
[11:59] <wizztjh_> can anyone help me?
[11:59] <NET||abuse> anyone able to advise me on reverse dns.... Other than more reliable acceptance of email relay, what benefits does it offer? and when setting reverse dns for an ip, do i just enter the domain (eg sitedomain.com) or do i enter the hostname? (www.sitedomain.com)
[12:00] <blizzkid> wizztjh_: tried apt-get install --reinstall?
[12:00] <ActionParsnip1> wizztjh_: --reinstall install it, then uninstall it
[12:00] <wizztjh_> trying!
[12:00] <blizzkid> wizztjh_: or even --purge when uninstalling
[12:00] <janhaj> indus: why install drivers when device is succesfully initialized and connected?
[12:00] <theadmin> Help me to remove the old kernel plz. How do i find what kernels i have? and how do i get rid of ones i don't need?
[12:01] <indus> janhaj: hmm true but according to links , not all hardware is loaded, i dont see tuner info
[12:01] <indus> janhaj: can i see dmesg output
[12:01] <indus> janhaj: it will say clearly, and if it  loads everything, tvtime should tune it
[12:01] <ActionParsnip1> theadmin: dpkg -l | grep linux-image
[12:01] <grawity> NET||abuse: Is "www" the real hostname?
[12:02] <indus> janhaj: i only know 2 words , analog and digital
[12:02] <ActionParsnip1> theadmin: you can remove them as you wish to harvest ~120Mb per kernel
[12:02] <indus> janhaj: no idea if mine is dvb - t or what
[12:02] <janhaj> indus: digital is dvb-t
[12:02] <ActionParsnip1> theadmin: you will need to run: sudo apt-get --purge autoremove     too to remove the modules for each kernel you remove, do NOT remove the current kernel
[12:02] <ActionParsnip1> theadmin: you can see that with: uname -a
[12:03] <NET||abuse> grawity, the email hostname would just be sitedomain.com   so user@sitedomain.com,, otherwise their website is also going to run on it, using ssl also on that ip
[12:03] <indus> janhaj: so you mean yours is digital broadcast?
[12:03] <grawity> NET||abuse: Then use sitedomain.com
[12:03] <janhaj> indus: http://paste.ubuntu.com/304981/
[12:03] <theadmin> http://paste.ubuntu.com/304980/
[12:03] <theadmin> Here is what i have.
[12:03] <NET||abuse> grawity, i'm dedicating that ip (one of the 7 on my server) to their site for the express purpose of they need ssl. so just looking into what the reverse dns is useful for. any other advantages to using it so?
[12:03] <ActionParsnip1> theadmin: you only have 1 surplus kernel
[12:04] <indus> janhaj: i dont see the tuner being recognised
[12:04] <wizztjh_> blizzkid: ActionParsnipl: i try both and it works
[12:04] <NET||abuse> ooh, update day?
[12:04] <indus> janhaj: just the card
[12:04] <patdk-lap> NET||abuse, reverse dns is normally only used for email
[12:04] <grawity> patdk-lap: You forgot IRC :)
[12:04] <wizztjh_> blizzkid: ActionParsnipl: thx dude! appreciate it!
[12:04] <theadmin> actionparsnip1: ONE? But it clearly lets me boot into systems with TWO kernels.
[12:04] <ActionParsnip1> wizztjhnp bro
[12:04] <patdk-lap> grawity, hmm, irc won't ban you though :)
[12:04] <NET||abuse> patdk-lap, ahah.. ok.
[12:04] <grawity> patdk-lap: Neither will email servers.
[12:05] <patdk-lap> hmm, lots of email servers do
[12:05] <mumtazah1> join #adempiere
[12:05] <indus> janhaj: did this work in 8.04?
[12:05] <ActionParsnip1> theadmin: you can only boot one kernel, you can remove the older kernel if you wish, leaving you with the 31 kernel
[12:05] <NET||abuse> indeed i'mve had email problems that were solved with reverse dns... stupid but there ya go.
[12:05] <grawity> NET||abuse: I don't know any other advantages... I perosnally just like rDNS to be correct and pretty.
[12:05] <patdk-lap> most require reverse dns to match forward and helo
[12:05] <theadmin> ActionParsnip1: Yes, i want to get rid of it. How?
[12:05] <NET||abuse> grawity, yeh, what if you host 3 domains on the one ip for email? it's kind hard then no?
[12:05] <janhaj> indus: in 8.04 i don!t know, but in jaunty works digital fine
[12:05] <indus> janhaj: ok and now you are on 9.10?
[12:06] <RanDom33> We have someone in our channel that speaks indonesian? is there an ubuntu indonesian channel?
[12:06] <patdk-lap> NET||abuse, no, easy, the mx record should match the hostname and reverse name
[12:06] <janhaj> indus: yes
[12:06] <Pici> !id | RanDom33
[12:06] <patdk-lap> the email server only has one name, not 3
[12:06] <ActionParsnip1> theadmin: sudo apt-get --purge remove linux-image-2.6.28-15-generic; sudo apt-get --purge autoremove
[12:06] <RanDom33> Pici,  thanks will send him that
[12:06] <patdk-lap> it can have 3 aliases, but only one primary
[12:06] <zkchong_> Hi guys. I am using Ubuntu KK now. However, the gdm start up before I can enter the password to unlock my encrypted partition. Any idea about this issue?
[12:06] <grawity> NET||abuse: One more reason though - if, for example, I do 'netstat -e' to check active connections, and your server has working rDNS, then I immediately can see that this connection is to your servers. (maybe it's a simple HTTP connection, maybe something malicious, maybe...)
[12:06] <ActionParsnip1> theadmin: will then leave you with only linux-image-2.6.31-14-generic
[12:06] <hypn0> on 9.10 with grub2, which file do i need to edit to remove "quiet splash" from /boot/grub/grub.cfg, seems that grub.cfg is read only
[12:06] <Blank__> is it natural for videos in flash to get laggier and laggier after about 5 seconds of playback?
[12:06] <zkchong_> or should I say, I want it to wait me unlock the partition first before the gdm is start.
[12:07] <zkchong_> any idea about this? :s
[12:07] <NET||abuse> patdk-lap, i'm not sure I get what you mean,,, so our office has a static ip, i can ask our isp to set reverse dns,, we have 3 email domains we use for 3 sub businesses we run..
[12:07] <grawity> NET||abuse: If rDNS was _not_ working, all I'd see was an IP address, and it would be much harder to find out its owner.
[12:07] <NET||abuse> grawity, so your just reliant on other people to have it setup though, anything malicious isn't going to, or even connections from home user to your server say.
[12:07] <patdk-lap> you name your smtp server, email.domain.com, then on all your domains, you set: domain2.com mx 5 email.domain.com
[12:07] <legend2440> hypn0: /etc/default/grub
[12:08] <ravic> When trying to install Lightning 0.9 by Mozilla Calendar Project, I see this error "not compatiable with your thunderbird build Linux_86_64_gcc3) "
[12:08] <ravic> any help
[12:08] <ravic> ?
[12:08] <NET||abuse> patdk-lap, ahhh, you use the other domain as the mx record for the domain2,, gotcha now, so as long as all the domains use the domain set in rDNS as their mx, it'll be very neat and tidy..
[12:08] <NET||abuse> that's awsome, thanks.
[12:08] <zkchong_> hi guys.. i have some problem with dm_crypt and gdm. It seems like ubuntuKK doest not give me time to unlock my partition before the gdm appear.
[12:08] <metabaronen> does anyone got some more information about the polkit-1 structure in karmic? the man files seems to be off
[12:08] <legend2440> hypn0: /etc/default/grub   then  run 'update-grub' afterwards to update
[12:08] <Lord-Readman> Hello, i have a windows boot disk floppy I use to update firmware / bios, but when i put it in ubuntu and try click floppy or right click floppy it says invalid media, how do i mount a fat / msdos floppy in ubuntu desktop
[12:09] <patdk-lap> zkchong, how are you unlocking it?
[12:09] <hypn0> thanks legend2440
[12:09] <patdk-lap> fstab? crypttab? pam_mount?
[12:09] <zkchong_> patdk-lap,  crypttab..
[12:09] <ravic> When trying to install Lightning 0.9 by Mozilla Calendar Project, I see this error "not compatiable with your thunderbird build Linux_86_64_gcc3) " any help
[12:09] <ActionParsnip1> ravic: is your system 64bit?
[12:09] <ravic> yes
[12:09] <patdk-lap> hmm, mine unlocks in crypttab long before gdm even boots
[12:09] <ActionParsnip1> ravic: ok should be ok, is there a repo for it someplace/
[12:09] <patdk-lap> you have to type in a password to unlock it?
[12:10] <zkchong_> patdk-lap,  urs is ubuntu kk too?
[12:10] <patdk-lap> yep
[12:10] <zkchong_> patdk-lap,  yes. need to type password to unlock the partition.
[12:10] <patdk-lap> but I don't type in a password, only my swap mounts in crypttab
[12:10] <zkchong_> patdk-lap,  do u have any idea why I have such problem?
[12:10] <patdk-lap> it's probably how long it takes to type your passwod
[12:10] <patdk-lap> since karmic uses upstart and does it all in parallel
[12:10] <patdk-lap> so gdm loading doesn't wait for crypttab like it used to
[12:11] <indus> janhaj: i keep reading that digital works fine and analog doesnt
[12:11] <zkchong_> patdk-lap, can I stop the upstart..?
[12:11] <phretor> two NFS clients, both jaunty server, same configuration; one can connect to the server, jaunty server as well, the other one fails with "mount.nfs: mount to NFS server '...' failed: RPC Error: Program not registered" - http://pastie.org/676580 - ideas?
[12:11] <Guest75778> Is anyone having problems with Kernel 2.6.31 crashing when inserting a broadband G3 card? In my case I have the AT&T "Wuicksilver" Option Icon 322.
[12:11] <patdk-lap> no, you can't stop upstart, but probably modify it
[12:11] <Vegar> does anyone know how to disable the screen lock after resuming from suspend?
[12:11] <indus> janhaj: so i guess without drivers it wont work, please file a request on launchpad
[12:11] <Guest75778> Correction "Quicksilver"
[12:11] <zkchong_> patdk-lap,  ic. how can I modify it?
[12:11] <ravic> ActionParsnip1, How to deal wiith it?
[12:11] <ActionParsnip1> ravic: all i can suggest is a PPA.
[12:12] <ravic> PPA?
[12:12] <ravic> i am not aware of it
[12:12] <ravic> please help
[12:12] <zkchong_> hi. anyone know how to slow down the upstart of ubuntu 9.10?
[12:12] <janhaj> indus: ok.. thank you for help..
[12:12] <grawity> zkchong_: Why would you need to slow down something?
[12:12] <th1> zkchong_, why ever would you want to slow it down?
[12:12] <indus> janhaj: sorry i didnt understadn it earlier
[12:13] <MaxFrames> help please, synergy is not working correctly after update to 9.10, I am trying to install synergy-plus to see if it makes any difference, but I am unable to add the third party repository because keyserver.ubuntu.com times out, can you help?
[12:13] <VirusTB> hi
[12:13] <SurfyDudee> ActionParsnip1 here is your results.
[12:13] <SurfyDudee> sudo lshw -C network | grep product
[12:13] <grawity> MaxFrames: pool.sks-keyservers.net
[12:13] <SurfyDudee> sam@ubuntu:~$ sudo lshw -C network | grep product
[12:13] <SurfyDudee> [sudo] password for sam:
[12:13] <SurfyDudee>        product: MCP73 Ethernet
[12:13] <FloodBot3> SurfyDudee: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:13] <janhaj> indus: it is fine.. thank you
[12:13] <indus> janhaj: you are saying (correct me if wrong) you want the analog to work , digital works fine
[12:13] <zkchong_> grawity, th1,  because the gdm start before I have enough time to unlock my partition (dm_crypt)
[12:13] <ActionParsnip1> SurfyDudee: use pastebin
[12:13] <SurfyDudee> ok
[12:13] <indus> janhaj: ok good luck and have a nice day
[12:13] <zkchong_> grawity, th1,  because the gdm start before I have enough time to unlock my partition (dm_crypt). Do u have any idea about this issue?
[12:14] <bofh_333> hi there
[12:14] <bofh_333> anybody tried 3g with 9.10 already?
[12:14] <MaxFrames> thanks
[12:14] <th1> zkchong_, you can put "sleep 10"  in /etc/init/gdm.conf
[12:14] <patdk-lap> bofh_333, works fine for me
[12:14] <th1> or how ever many seconds you want
[12:14] <Geine> 910 is out?
[12:14] <bofh_333> does for me, too, but only after I sudo killall -9 modem-manager NetworkManager; sudo modem-manager
[12:14] <ActionParsnip1> Geine: yes
[12:14] <Geine> ActionParsnip1, do you have download URL
[12:14] <SurfyDudee> ActionParsnip1: So any ideas?
[12:15] <bofh_333> otherwise NetworkManager does not show my card
[12:15] <MaxFrames> by any means, if someone is willing to help me with synergy (keyboard layoout mismatch after upgrading to 9.10) please feel free to query me
[12:15] <Sarge_TJ> Hi! I upgraded to karmic and my system doesn't recognize my mp3 player when connected anymore. It doesn't even show up with "fdisk -l". Can anyone help?
[12:15] <SurfyDudee> its a dwa 160 wifi usb
[12:15] <zkchong_> th1,  thanks. I try first. logout now.
[12:15] <henryklyczkowski> Geine www.ubuntu.com
[12:15] <xukun> hi guys how do I choose the headset in Karmic?
[12:15] <bofh_333> asarge: susb?
[12:15] <ActionParsnip1> SurfyDudee: use pastebin to give the whole output. the floodbot correctly stopped you flooding the chanel
[12:15] <bofh_333> @ sarge: lsusb?
[12:15] <th1> zkchong_, put it just before the "exec gdm-binary" line
[12:15] <SurfyDudee> lol k
[12:15] <ActionParsnip1> !torrents | Geine
[12:15] <zkchong_> th1 sure thanks. I am trying now. will be back in a moment
[12:16] <SurfyDudee> one sec pastbin is struggling to load
[12:16] <Mike_lifeguard> Hello. In Karmic, the fast-user-switch-applet was removed. What replaced it? There is nothing on the panels to log me out, switch to a guest user session, etc
[12:17] <G_A_C> Mike_lifeguard: I think it's been replaced by the Indicator Applet
[12:17] <Brianetta> Mike_lifeguard: It's all there for me.  You just choose logout, and the dialogue includes switcvh user.
[12:17] <th1> Mike_lifeguard, in the upper right corner is a power button it has that ?
[12:17] <th1> unless your panel config is messed up then you should reset it
[12:17] <ActionParsnip1> SurfyDudee: could use: http://www.pastie.org
[12:17] <VirusTB> join #c++
[12:17] <G_A_C> on my Karmic system, that serves the purpose of a) setting my IM status via Pidgin or Empathy and b) giving me a shut down/restart/standby menu
[12:17] <Mike_lifeguard> G_A_C: Thanks, that's correct.
[12:17] <VirusTB> join #c++
[12:18] <Mike_lifeguard> G_A_C: would benice if that got added automatically on upgrade :)
[12:18] <dbugger> Hey guys
[12:18] <Guest57640> hi! when i start ubuntu ( the 9.10 ) i am strapped in the start screen do u know how to get rid of that problem?
[12:18] <VirusTB> ? how do i get outta here and join the #c++ chatroom?
[12:18] <SurfyDudee> its done at http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/
[12:18] <dbugger> Can someone tell me how to see a notification when I receive a new message in empathy??
[12:18] <Mike_lifeguard> Brianetta: The indicator applet session doesn't get added on upgrade, apparently
[12:18] <G_A_C> Mike_lifeguard: I think mine did during the beta (IIRC), I'm surprised it doesn't in the final
[12:18] <Mike_lifeguard> th1: I had to add it manually
[12:18] <DJones> VirusTB: you need to use "/join #c++" without the quotes
[12:18] <ActionParsnip1> SurfyDudee: not quite, i need the link after you clicked paste
[12:18] <Brianetta> Mike_lifeguard: I didn't use it anyway.  If there's no applet, the "System" menu takes teh job on.
[12:18] <daleharvey> I have had to turn of acpi to get my ubuntu to stop freezing, but thats killed my wifi, can anyone think of a way round that?
[12:18] <Mike_lifeguard> G_A_C: mmmmmm, tastes buggy :P
[12:19] <VirusTB> thanks DJones
[12:19] <Guest57640> hi! when i start ubuntu ( the 9.10 ) i am strapped in the start screen do u know how to get rid of that problem?
[12:19] <SurfyDudee> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m1295031e
[12:19] <Boohbah> Guest57640: ctrl+alt+f1 and try to determine the error
[12:19] <G_A_C> Mike_lifeguard: I could be wrong, it's a few weeks since I upgraded to the beta, and when I use beta software I don't tend to take a lot of notice of things like that (ie manual changes), just assume they'll be made automatically on release. I just keep my eyes open for actual bugs, and since indicator-applet does what it says on the tin.... :)
[12:19] <ActionParsnip1> SurfyDudee: better :)
[12:20] <SurfyDudee> thanks
[12:20] <ActionParsnip1> SurfyDudee: can you pastebin the output of: sudo lshw -C network
[12:20] <Guest57640> Boohbah:i will try it.
[12:20] <Guest57640> thnx
[12:20] <agentbob> is there a non-Suhosin-Patch version of php in the ubuntu apt-get packagelist?
[12:20] <SurfyDudee> yep one sec
[12:21] <Mike_lifeguard> G_A_C: fair enough
[12:21] <FIreSoul> Any way how to restrict the path taken by the packets to the gateway from my computer ?
[12:21] <Nickion> Hey guys, just wondering if anyone is having problems with a G3 broadband card, in my case a a att quicksilver. I'm running 9.10 on kernel 2.6.31.
[12:21] <bofh_333> again: did  anyone had to do some extra steps to get their 3g to work under 9.10?
[12:21] <hacker> no
[12:22] <th1> bofh_333, only every time I insert it I have to Eject the virtual CD-ROM it shows before it will work
[12:22] <henryklyczkowski> Why cannonical don't put dvd encryption in repository?
[12:22] <bofh_333> k
[12:22]  * nick is away: screen detached
[12:22] <Mike_lifeguard> How can I install firefox 3.0 (the package firefox-3.0 is, oddly enough, not firefox 3.0)
[12:22] <bofh_333> tnx
[12:22] <FIreSoul> xvidcap: relocation error: /usr/lib/i686/cmov/libavdevice.so.52: symbol snd_pcm_htimestamp, version ALSA_0.9 not defined in file libasound.so.2 with link time reference
[12:22] <th1> but it didn't work at all in 9.04
[12:22] <akobed> after upgrading to 9.10 mysql-5.1 doesn't want to start anymore. please help :-/ i had a perfectly working minimally configured mythtv setup before and now i get: http://pastebin.com/d75d5fda7 :-(
[12:22] <Nickion> bofh_333, I haven't had any luck getting mine to work. system completely locks up.
[12:23] <ASrock> what is a good program to manage my monitors in ubuntu?
[12:23] <Guest79850> :-)
[12:23] <bofh_333> @ Nickion: outch
[12:23] <akobed> i even tried purging and removing all mysql and mythtv packages and reinstalling them but mysql server just does not want to start anymore
[12:23] <bofh_333> have you tried sudo killall -9 modem-manager NetworkManager; sudo modem-manager
[12:23] <bofh_333> will reset your network
[12:23] <bofh_333> It does work for me but is a pain
[12:23] <FIreSoul> what in the name of... what is that ?
[12:23] <ActionParsnip1> ASrock: what video card?
[12:23] <Nickion> no
[12:24] <Nickion> I have the ATT quicksilver. Option icon 322.
[12:24] <ASrock> nvidia geforce 8600gt
[12:24] <ActionParsnip1> ASrock: nvidia-settings   then
[12:24] <ASrock> um how exactly does that work?
[12:25] <unimatrix> is there any point in encrypting only the /home and not also the / (root) partition?
[12:25] <ASrock> i would like a gui if that is possible
[12:25] <alam_kalam> http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/calendar/lightning/releases/0.9/contrib/linux-x86_64/
[12:25] <ActionParsnip1> ASrock: it gets installed when you install the driver
[12:25] <ActionParsnip1> ASrock: it is a gui
[12:25] <dbugger> Someone please help me configure empathy please :(
[12:25] <nicklas_> hello, ubuntu changed from pidgin too empathy cause its supposed to have webcam support right? well i have a webcam and it works and all, but in empathy there isnt any option for starting webcam chat or anything like that?
[12:25] <ActionParsnip1> ASrock: i suggest you run: gksudo jockey-gtk
[12:25] <ASrock> would that be under System>Administration?
[12:25] <Geine> hi all
[12:26] <henryklyczkowski> I cannot eject audio cd :D
[12:26] <ActionParsnip1> ASrock: sounds like you havent installed the driver
[12:26] <roel-> updating to 9.10.. couldn't boot, had to boot with 9.10 USB and chroot into old disk :S
[12:26] <Jaymac> henryklyczkowski, tried right click > unmount or right click > eject?
[12:26] <Geine> is there a way to backup user profile in ubuntu 8.4
[12:26] <allenbradley> I'm upgrading to karmic right now, and I am getting a prompt to interrupt gdm
[12:26] <roel-> and now update-manager says "ImportError: No module named pygtk"
[12:26] <Jaymac> roel-, ubuntu desktop?
[12:26] <ASrock> it looks like jockey found it
[12:26] <Geine> and restore it in new pc with 910
[12:26] <roel-> Jaymac: yep..
[12:27] <Brianetta> So, anybody any ideas on the popularity contest?  The Ubunu Software Centre doesn't tell me how popular the applications are.
[12:27] <allenbradley> sShould I interrupt gdm during install?
[12:27] <bratizPirate> I Am BRATIZ PIRATE who leaked the Ubuntu 15 hour
[12:27] <bratizPirate> s on Pirate Bay before it WAS REleazed! !!!
[12:27] <G_A_C> Geine: "tar -cvjf /tmp/Geinebackup20091030.tar.bz2 /home/Geine" should do it
[12:27] <ActionParsnip1> ASrock: awesome, once its done, reboot and you can use nvidia-settings to configure stuff
[12:27] <Maciek> Hi, is there any way to install grub2 on fakeraid(raid0) partition. I installed Karmic but i can't load. It seems that grub didn't installed.
[12:28] <outy> hi
[12:28] <kde185> Is there anything I can do to help speed up firefox (and flash)?  I have an ATI R300 card and I have done the usual googling but haven't found anything that addresses performance issues
[12:28] <ASrock> um, but jockey cant actually install the driver it said "failed to fetch (long link) could not resolve 'us.archive.ubuntu.com"
[12:28] <th1> Maciek, it is possible but it is easiest to install it from inside grub itself
[12:28] <outy> i installed ubuntu to a second partition on the same drive my windows install is on,  but i cant boot into ubuntu
[12:28] <outy> it boots straight to windows
[12:28] <ActionParsnip1> ASrock: what driver did it recommend, the 185>
[12:28] <outy> what should i do?
[12:28] <henryklyczkowski> Jaymac :)
[12:28] <ASrock> oh i feel stupid, havent connected to my wireless :P
[12:28] <allenbradley> I am updating my install right now, and I get an option to interrupt gdm. should I do it or will my session crash?
[12:28] <Geine> G_A_C, I don't need to backup every things, just emails & home folder
[12:28] <Mike_lifeguard> How can I install firefox 3.0 if the package "firefox-3.0" isn't what it says on the tin?!
[12:29] <ActionParsnip1> ASrock: that'll do it
[12:29] <SurfyDudee> ActionParsnip1: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m45560129
[12:29] <bratizPirate> <---- is the one   .. who DID LEAK IT FROM PIRATE BAY !!! and it waz 15 hour b4 rldeazee!! !11
[12:29] <Brianetta> bratizPirate: I don't think anybody cares, dude
[12:29] <ActionParsnip1> SurfyDudee: your system doesnt have wifi, only wired
[12:29] <ASrock> haha yep, considering that...is there any way to make ubuntu automatically connect to my wireless?
[12:30] <ActionParsnip1> ASrock: network manager will handle that
[12:30] <SurfyDudee> Yes it does, I'm using a wifi usb reciever now...under windows
[12:30] <henryklyczkowski> There is finally mono down mix!
[12:30] <SurfyDudee> and i'm not connected to the router
[12:30] <SurfyDudee> via a wire
[12:30] <th1> ASrock, if you make it "available to all users" in the NetworkManager it will then connect at startup
[12:30] <ipatel> Hi guys! Anyone else experiencing extremely long boot time since upgrade to 9.10?
[12:30] <ASrock> ahh, thanks
[12:31] <bradpitt> bratizPirate : i don't care
[12:31] <ActionParsnip1> SurfyDudee: then i suggest you have the device unplugged when you boot, then plug it in once te system settles and run: dmesg | tail
[12:31] <Strizer> good morning!
[12:31] <ASrock> ipatel: nope mine boots up pretty quick
[12:31] <henryklyczkowski> Karmic rocks it have mono downmix.
[12:31] <SurfyDudee> ok
[12:31] <patdk-lap> iplatel, yep, seems to be using a normal harddrive with sreadahead mostly
[12:31] <ActionParsnip1> SurfyDudee: you will see the system react to the insertion
[12:31] <iceroot> ipatel: look at bootmessages (ctrl + alt + f1) or logs to see what is taking so long
[12:31] <allenbradley> I am updating my install right now, and I get an option to interrupt gdm. should I do it or will my session crash?
[12:31] <SurfyDudee> ok thanks brb ill do that
[12:31] <solsTiCe> virtualbox-ose-guest-additions depends on virtualbox. that's a bug or what ? virtualbox should not be needed for the guest addition ...
[12:31] <lelle> d
[12:31] <bratizPirate> u ph34rZ my 1337 5k1llz!!!!!!!!
[12:31] <lelle> wela
[12:31] <lelle> cm va
[12:32] <iceroot> solsTiCe: they are inside virtualbox
[12:32] <ipatel> ive used bootchart to map boot process
[12:32] <alabd> Is there  any else license allow us relicense ? like FreeBSD ?
[12:32] <sipior> ratizPirate: explore adolescence elsewhere, please
[12:32] <solsTiCe> iceroot: they should not
[12:32] <iceroot> solsTiCe: sure
[12:32] <weechat3> I need help.
[12:32] <bratizPirate> sprid0r: ur Zhuckz
[12:32] <liyingqiao> how to make ubuntu9.10 become kubuntu9.10?
[12:32] <bratizPirate> <---- is the one   .. who DID LEAK IT FROM PIRATE BAY !!! and it waz 15 hour b4 rldeazee!! !11
[12:32] <weechat3> I updated my 9.04 to 9.10
[12:32] <weechat3> but now my machine didn't boot
[12:32] <iceroot> solsTiCe: if you click on client (install guest...) virtualbox will mount the goust addons so the client can install them
[12:33] <jumbers> bratizPirate: ...
[12:33] <DJones> !ot | bratizPirate
[12:33] <nosklo> bratizPirate: we don't care. Please stop repeating that.
[12:33] <ipatel> sreadahead runs from 5secs to ~115secs
[12:33] <ActionParsnip1> weechat3: keep it on one line please, saves us having to piece togeter your issue from multiple lines
[12:33] <weechat3> the machine shows /dev/mem not founf
[12:33] <weechat3> *found
[12:33] <patdk-lap> ipatel, sreadahead is for ssd drives, it's broken for normal spinning harddrives currently
[12:33] <nightangel> how do i find md5sum and how do i run it
[12:33] <Bodsda> Anyone reported an issue with ubuntu.com or packages.ubuntu.com?
[12:33] <ipatel> how can i remove?
[12:33] <patdk-lap> personally I would comment out the exec line in /etc/init/sreadahead
[12:34] <ActionParsnip1> !md5 | nightangel
[12:34] <patdk-lap> ipatel, installing readahead-list would help, it moved mine down from 80sec to 60sec boottime, but it's not simple to re-install
[12:34] <nightangel> yea i read that and i was a bit confused about how to go about it
[12:34] <outy> i cant boot to my ubuntu partition, can someone help me ?
[12:34]  * nathan7 stabs nightangel with a unicycle
[12:34] <weechat3> Anyone had problems with 9.04 to 9.10 upgrade?
[12:34] <weechat3> MY machine didn't boot
[12:35] <nightangel> i was wondering if there was a way to dummy it down a bit more
[12:35] <weechat3> I have problems with grub
[12:35] <ActionParsnip1> nightangel: you can use: md5sum <iso file>   under linux, or you can download an app inwindows to calculate the sum
[12:35] <ipatel> patdk-lap: any info when a fix will be released?
[12:35] <sixfish> could anyone help me to reinstall grub2, curenlyti t displays no grub loader
[12:35] <DJones> Bodsda: There have been a few comments that *.ubuntu.com sites & services seem to be having problems or are very slow
[12:35] <Bodsda> can anyone test packages.ubuntu.com for me -- see if you can search and click to download on a package
[12:35] <patdk-lap> nope, they haven't made a fix yet, only info was it wasn't going be fixed before release :)
[12:35] <nathan7> sixfish: Hmm, okay
[12:35] <weechat3> and the machine can't boot in recovery mode
[12:35] <usuario> hi
[12:35] <sixfish> nathan7, thanks
[12:35] <bratizPirate> <---- iz th3 1337 Chrax0rz who dId L34k UBUNTU 9.1 in Pir8b8 LONG Be4 it was releazed. RESPECT 2 HIM !!!
[12:35] <nathan7> ...
[12:35] <usuario> ello
[12:35] <om26er1> !karmic
[12:35] <usuario> hello
[12:36] <iceroot> bratizPirate: stop that
[12:36] <sixfish> nathan7, ive just installed ubuntu 9.10 and evertie i boot it it shows grub loader loading and it goes away
[12:36] <Bodsda> DJones: ah, ok cheers -- a traceroute shows that problems begin once hitting eth0.peumo.canonical.com
[12:36] <usuario> hello
[12:36] <Pici> bratizPirate: Please stop, no one cares and its not topical for this channel.
[12:36] <nathan7> bratizPirate: It's availalable for 6 months before release to everyone
[12:36] <nathan7> !ops  12:35:45 < bratizPirate> <---- iz th3 1337 Chrax0rz who dId L34k UBUNTU 9.1 in Pir8b8 LONG Be4 it was releazed. RESPECT 2 HIM !!!
[12:36] <bazhang> he's gone
[12:36] <nathan7> Hmm.
[12:36] <ipatel> patdk-lap: thanks for the info...
[12:36] <zvacet> Bodsda:  it look it is down
[12:36] <ActionParsnip1> sixfish: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Installation
[12:36] <Strizer> does anyone know of a linux autodialer for marketing purposes?
 Hello, please paste your question... No need to introduce yourself.
[12:37] <Bodsda> zvacet: cheers
[12:37] <nathan7> sixfish: Not hard to write.
[12:37] <nathan7> Strizer: Not hard to write
[12:37] <nathan7> Strizer: For VoIP or a modom?
[12:37] <sixfish> is there some way i can delete entire grub2 and start all over?
[12:37] <zvacet> Bodsda:   :'(
[12:37] <nathan7> Strizer: *modem
[12:37] <sixfish> it has been installed, i would like to wipe the entire thing and start over
[12:37] <ActionParsnip1> sixfish: sudo apt-get --purge remove grub2
[12:37] <Strizer> i guess voip would be best
[12:37] <nathan7> sixfish: The whole system or just grub?
[12:38] <th1> sixfish, you can install grub1 or another bootloader it will effectively overwrite the boot scector and stuff
[12:38] <nathan7> Strizer: Hmm.
[12:38] <zyxxy> my headphone switch stopped working with karmic - sound is played via both the speakers and headphones, which is annoying when using voip
[12:38] <nathan7> :o
[12:38] <sixfish> grub thanks
[12:38] <ipatel> patdk-lap: upstart-udev-br, dd, rsyslogd and udevd are also taking a long time, same for you?
[12:38] <zyxxy> i can't find the control panel to check the "mute speakers when headphones connected" box
[12:38] <Strizer> i have a couple of people which owe me money... and im sick of calling over and over... i want to automate the bugging process
[12:38] <zyxxy> it used to be in audio/sound settings, but now the interface has changed and the box is gone. any way to fix that?
[12:38] <weechat3> Now I can't boot...because this dirty upgrade
[12:39] <nathan7> :o
[12:39] <nathan7> Hmm
[12:39] <weechat3> this grub2 can't find nothing and destroyed my machine
[12:39] <sixfish> th1, i tried isntalling grub, apt-get istall grub
[12:39] <lelle> wela
[12:39] <nathan7> I don't get why people get into problems when upgrading
[12:39] <FiremanEd> !torrent > FiremanEd
[12:39] <sixfish> th1 that helped in no way either :(
[12:39] <ActionParsnip1> weechat3: you can install grub from live cd
[12:39] <sixfish> ill try removing and installing again
[12:39] <SurfyDudee> ActionParsnip1: It found something when i plugged it in.
[12:39] <SurfyDudee> http://paste.ubuntu.com/305011/
[12:39] <om26er1> weechat3: make a clean install
[12:39] <nathan7> sixfish: you have to run grub-install
[12:39] <henryklyczkowski> Well I martyred karmic as I could and I found only few bugs
[12:39] <sixfish> nathan7 i will, i just removed
[12:39] <lelle> wats your name
[12:39] <nathan7> sixfish: grub-install '(hd0)'
[12:39] <weechat3> Yep, i was trusting in Ubuntu upgrade
[12:40] <weechat3> Now I know that I can't trust
[12:40]  * nathan7 stabs bratizPirate 
[12:40] <sixfish> nathan7 thats not grub2 right
[12:40] <nathan7> sixfish: Depends
[12:40] <sixfish> nathan7 ok
[12:40] <nathan7> sixfish: Depends which you have installed
[12:40] <bratizPirate> nathan7z urs 2 !!!!
[12:40] <CaptainThirdEye> Trying to setup up my Ubuntu machine to serve file around my home network. Any good tutorials around?
[12:41] <henryklyczkowski> weechat3 Upgrading is the orgin of most bugs
[12:41] <sixfish> mmm hey guys
[12:41] <sixfish> i just purged and removed grub2
[12:41] <bazhang> bratizPirate, please desist
[12:41] <sixfish> but its still showing grub loader!
[12:41] <sixfish> omg.. :(
[12:41] <sixfish> but laoder goes away it doesnt show the menu
[12:41] <bratizPirate> bazhang: <nathan7> ACTION stabs bratizPirate 
[12:41] <sixfish> could have i installed grub1 ?
[12:41] <bratizPirate> !!!
[12:41]  * nathan7 stabs bratizPirate again
[12:41] <Pici> nathan7: stop that
[12:41] <Bodsda> how can I force apt-get to pull updates from gb.archive.ubuntu.com? is it all in the sources.list or can I specify in the command what server to pull from?
[12:41] <ActionParsnip1> SurfyDudee: you can run: lsusb to see the device and websearch using the line from there
[12:41]  * ASrock drops a nuke on bratizpirate
[12:42] <zvacet> upgrade with alternate Cd is good option
[12:42] <pc_> hello guys
[12:42] <nathan7> Pici:hmm.
[12:42] <SurfyDudee> thanks
[12:42] <pc_> i went to set everything to use ALSA
[12:42] <pc_> do i need to reboot?
[12:42] <sixfish> this doesnt make any sense.. why would it show anything grub once i --purge and remove  anyone /
[12:42] <ipatel> Karmic taking ~150 seconds to boot!!!!!
[12:42] <pc_> is it fast or slow
[12:42] <nathan7> O_O
[12:42] <pc_> :)
[12:42] <knoxville> What small mp3 program would you recommend?
[12:42] <nathan7> <30s here
[12:43] <henryklyczkowski> knoxville totem
[12:43] <bazhang> knoxville, audacious is fairly light
[12:43] <IHS_Volunteer> So, if I -don't- want the floppy showing up on the desktop with no floppy inserted... How do I go about making it not show up? I'm seeing it 7 times on an LTSP client, specifically.
[12:43] <ActionParsnip1> ipatel: you can run:   dmesg | less     and see where the time is hanging
[12:43] <pc_> !sound
[12:43] <Strizer> Nathan7 are you able to make this app?
[12:43] <daveycakes> hey guys, whats a good channel to get help with flash/web design?
[12:43] <jumbers> knoxville: Are you looking for a small, Winamp like player?
[12:44] <jumbers> knoxville: Or a more full featured program
[12:44] <ActionParsnip1> !xmms | jumbers
[12:44] <nathan7> Strizer: Possibly, what VoIP app are you planning to use?
[12:44] <tmx> how can i play swf files on ubuntu 9.10
[12:44] <Strizer> i am using acanac\
[12:44] <jumbers> ActionParsnip1: I was going to suggest Audacious, a fork of xmms
[12:44] <knoxville> jumbers: a small program, not so many features, library is all i need.
[12:44] <jumbers> knoxville: Rhythmbox might be something you'd be interested in
[12:44] <sixfish> its apt-get --purge remove grub-pc
[12:45] <sixfish> grub-pc is called the new grub2
[12:45] <bratizPirate> <----- is gonn4 shank nathan7 with a rzrlade!!!!!11111111111#
[12:45] <knoxville> jumbers: im download audacious atm
[12:45] <ipatel> ActionParsnip1: [   16.492824] input: PS/2 Generic Mouse as /devices/platform/i8042/serio4/serio5/input/input12
[12:45] <ipatel> to
[12:45] <nathan7> =)
[12:45] <ipatel> [   59.725796] EXT3-fs warning: maximal mount count reached, running e2fsck is recommended
[12:45] <jumbers> knoxville: Audacious doesn't have a library feature, just playlists
[12:45] <ipatel> q
[12:45] <ActionParsnip1> ipatel: sounds like your mouse is flakey
[12:45] <Newbie> i'm getting this message: E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[12:45] <Newbie> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[12:45] <knoxville> jumbers: okay, i'll check it out! :)
[12:45] <bazhang> Newbie, run that commanded with sudo
[12:45] <ActionParsnip1> ipatel: or you could configure it hard somewhere so it detects quicker
[12:45] <weechat3> how to correct grub2 by command line
[12:45] <weechat3> ?
[12:46] <knoxville> How do I check if my graphic card is properly installed?
[12:46] <weechat3> quit
[12:46] <boris-> weechat3: what do you want to correct ?
[12:46] <tmx> how can i play swf files on ubuntu 9.10
[12:46] <ASrock> in nvidia settings which is clone and which spans across the screens? the options are seperate x screen, or twinview?
[12:46] <martinf> twinview is across the screens
[12:46] <IHS_Volunteer> tmx, install the ubuntu restricted extras, and then open the swf with firefox
[12:46] <Newbie> thnx
[12:47] <Mike_lifeguard> When running update-grub, what should I specify for device? the partition /boot lives on like /dev/sda6?
[12:47] <ActionParsnip1> ASrock: well, logically twinview wold clone the displays like a pair of twins
[12:47] <fsckroot> fully updated 9.10 installation - intel 82801G sound not working - any fix suggestions?
[12:48] <ipatel> ActionParsnip1: http://pastie.org/676619
[12:48] <pc_> does 9.10 include Alsa (1.0.21) by default?
[12:48] <tmx> @ IHS_Volunteer thx !
[12:48] <sixfish> nathan7, i just reinstalled grub-pc which is grub2, and reconfigured it, and yet still nto showing a grub menu, any idea?
[12:49] <martinf> I fresh installed karmic on my eee 900 and it is trying to do something with sdc (my usb card reader) on boot and doesn't get any further. When I disable it in the bios I get to a read error on my sdb (drive ubuntu is installed on) and then get dropped to a busybox shell with an initramfs prompt, any thoughts?
[12:49] <sixfish> can i install anythign else other then grub??
[12:49] <nathan7> sixfish: hmm
[12:49] <nathan7> sixfish: Not really
[12:49] <SurfyDudee> ActionParsnip1...this is what I use for internet http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/305020/
[12:49] <sixfish> nathan7, ok, what could it be causing though, it just wont bring up that vista partition up at all
[12:50] <sixfish> nathan7 /dev/sda1
[12:50] <sixfish> ntfs
[12:50] <fsckroot> anybody?
[12:51] <om26er1> fsckroot: what
[12:51] <nathan7> sixfish: hmm
[12:51] <lelle> wela
[12:51] <fsckroot> fresh 9.10 installation (fully update) intel 82801G sound not working
[12:51] <nathan7> sixfish: I have to go really, sorry
[12:51] <fsckroot> need a fix ASAP
[12:51] <lelle> wela cicci
[12:51] <hyperstation01> test
[12:52] <fsckroot> om26er1: any ideas?
[12:52] <om26er1> fsckroot: about what
[12:52] <ubuntistas_> why the icons in the panel of places aren't all shown
[12:52] <ubuntistas_> ?
[12:52] <fsckroot> om26er1: brand new 9.10 installation (all updates installed) and the intel 82801G sound isn't working
[12:52] <ArianHT> Hi, i've installed ubuntu 9.10, i don't like it's indicator applet and i want to remove it from my panel, what should i do?
[12:53] <om26er1> no
[12:53] <fsckroot> om26er1: on a Toshiba M500 if that info helps
[12:53] <thiebaude> ubuntistas_, you can enable them
[12:53] <om26er1> fsckroot: worked on jaunty?
[12:53] <om26er1> ArianHT: right click and remove from panel
[12:54] <ubuntistas_> how thiebaude?
[12:54] <eca> hae.........
[12:54] <fsckroot> om26er1: haven't the slightest clue, it's my gf's laptop
[12:54] <thiebaude> ubuntistas_, system-preferences-appearance-interface
[12:54] <knoxville> What site should I use for download themes?
[12:54] <eca> wwwwwoyyyy
[12:54] <DJones> !themes | knoxville
[12:54] <adac> After my upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10 I have no grafical anymore. Anyone knows what to do?
[12:54] <sixfish> cmon guys, someoen help me wit hthis stinkin grub, i really dnt want to delete my vista partition
[12:54] <thiebaude> show icons in menu
[12:54] <ChogyDan> sixfish: whats the problem?
[12:54] <kaneski> fsckroot: maybe it's on mute?
[12:54] <ActionParsnip1> SurfyDudee: the lsusb will give you the identifier, its an 8 character hex value, whic you can then serch for. If all else fails you can use ndiswrapper + windows driver
[12:54] <sixfish> ActionParsnip1, any idea friend ?
[12:55] <Animagladius> Hi.
[12:55] <fsckroot> kaneski: checked with alsamixer, everything unmuted and on 100%
[12:55] <ActionParsnip1> sixfish: not a sausage, sorry
[12:55] <eca> ??????????????????????????
[12:55] <sixfish> ActionParsnip1, is there a way i can get rid of this partition so it loads back to windows ?
[12:55] <sixfish> ActionParsnip1, can i just delete it soemhow
[12:55] <SurfyDudee> ActionParsnip1 is going to burn out lol
[12:55] <ubuntistas_> thx thiebaude , why it was not on default weird
[12:55] <SurfyDudee> his brain must work fast as
[12:55] <thiebaude> ubuntistas_, i dont know
[12:56] <thiebaude> np
[12:56] <c3l_> is there any handy tool for managing id3 tags etc for mp3
[12:56] <ActionParsnip1> sixfish: if you boot to windows you can delete the partition
[12:56] <ipatel> sixfish: i did not understand your issue
[12:56] <DJones> c3l_: I use easytag for editing the tags on mp3's
[12:57] <sixfish> ipatel, ok, i had windows vista installed prior to installing ubuntu 9.10
[12:57] <ipatel> ok
[12:57] <sixfish> ipatel now that i have instaleld it, whe nit loads it just goes throug hthe grub loader, it doesnt show amny menu at all
[12:57] <adac> Any idea why after upgrading to jaunty my X doesn't start anymore?
[12:57] <c3l_> DJones, thanks. ill try that one=)
[12:57] <sixfish> ipatel and it just starts booting into ubuntu, ive tried removing purging grub2 and reinstalling it. reconfiguring it, it does nothign differant
[12:58] <ipatel> sixfish: have you tried pressing esc, to check if it shows grub menu?
[12:58] <sixfish> ipatel now atleast i want to be able to remove this ubuntu partiont so it loads back to vista. there is some things i forgot to back up :(
[12:58] <sixfish> ipatel, it just goes throug hthe whole thing on its own
[12:58] <sixfish> ipatel should i try? it kinda goes through fast but enough timefor me to see grub loading.
[12:58] <ipatel> sixfish: removing the ubuntu parition will not fix you problem
[12:58] <sixfish> gonna try
[12:59] <sixfish> ok
[12:59] <ActionParsnip1> adac: no drivers for video, switch back to vesa driverin xorg.conf
[12:59] <Shockrates> hello guys. my desktop has a secondary internal ntfs hdd. how do i permanently mount it? thanks
[12:59] <ChogyDan> fsckroot: fwiw, I configure my sound through gstreamer-properties   good if you sound is working partially.  If it doesnt work at all, maybe something in gnome-volume-control?
[12:59] <ActionParsnip1> !ntfs-3g | Shockrates
[12:59] <sixfish> ipatel, ESC does nothign :(
[12:59] <ipatel> sixfish: i suggest you try pressing esc when grub is loading to check to see if you can view the grub menu
[12:59] <SikEnCide> Shockrates you need ot add it to /etc/fstab
[12:59] <cappiz> can i see the kernel versions used by my system?
[12:59] <ActionParsnip1> Shockrates: put an entry in /etc/fstab and it will mount at boot
[12:59] <sixfish> ipatel can not it just goes through :(
 I found the linux driver it says i just need to double click on it....but its rpm...ubuntu doesnt support that right?
[13:00] <kindofabuzz> my sound is always muted on reboot. any fixes?
[13:00] <Shockrates> ActionParsnip1: how?
[13:00] <ActionParsnip1> SurfyDudee: true, it prefers deb
[13:00] <ActionParsnip1> Shockrates: read the guide ubottu gave
[13:00] <ipatel> sixfish: have you checked whether your windows partition still exists?
[13:00] <dam0> how do i open a lzm file on ubuntu?
[13:00] <ActionParsnip1> SurfyDudee: you could try alien but its a bit hit and miss
[13:00] <sixfish> yes ive doen sudo blkid
[13:00] <hanasaki> how can I get a VNC server running on boo tthat some one can use to login?
[13:00] <sixfish> ipatel, it shows me the NTFS partition under /dev/sda1
[13:01] <SikEnCide> alien has work for me a few times.. you are right its a little hit or miss
[13:01] <SurfyDudee> how do i install alien with no internet?
[13:01] <roel-> why would pygtk be gone after the 9.10 upgrade? weird.
[13:01] <adac> ActionParsnip1, what line do I have to add for enabling vesa again?
[13:01] <ipatel> sixfish: can you pastie your /boot/grub/menu.lst
[13:01] <ubuntistas> which repository do i have to install to see videos and stream audio in karmic?
[13:01] <chateante> hola
[13:01] <sixfish> ipatel there is not one existed
[13:02] <dam0> what program can i decompress lzm with?
[13:02] <ActionParsnip1> adac: its     Driver "vesa"
[13:02] <sixfish> ipatel i thought grub2 only works off of grub.cfg ?
[13:02] <ActionParsnip1> adac: in the configured video device    section
[13:02] <ipatel> sixfish: ahhh ok... i wasnt aware that you are using grub 2
[13:02] <sixfish> ipatel ok sorry
[13:02] <sixfish> ipatel grub-pc
[13:02] <Mike_lifeguard> After editing /etc/default/grub, how do I update grub on-disk?
[13:02] <sixfish> ipatel apt-get install grub-pc
[13:02] <chateante> i need google wave
[13:02] <hanasaki> nothing happens when I try to join ubuntu+1 .. is it down?
[13:02] <SurfyDudee> how do i install alien?
[13:03] <Shockrates> guys this link
[13:03] <Shockrates> says nothing
[13:03] <ActionParsnip1> SurfyDudee: sudo apt-get install alien
[13:03] <Shockrates> isnt there a more detailed
[13:03] <Shockrates> ?
[13:03] <FloodBot3> Shockrates: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:03] <ActionParsnip1> !alien | SurfyDudee
[13:03] <ChogyDan> hanasaki: it goes here
[13:03] <ubuntistas> do i have to enable karmic partner and source?
[13:03] <ubuntistas> which repository do i have to install to see videos and stream audio in karmic?
[13:03] <adac> ActionParsnip1, in Section Device?
[13:03] <DJones> hanasaki: ubuntu+1 isn't needed at the minute, the next version hasn't been released yet, so anybody joining is redirected to here
[13:03] <sixfish> ipatel any ideas
[13:03] <ipatel> sixfish: what version of windows are you dual booting with?
[13:03] <sixfish> ipatel windows vista
[13:04] <hanasaki> ah
[13:04] <sixfish> ipatel vista 64
[13:04] <Mike_lifeguard> ubuntistas: No. Try vlc, and enable Medibuntu if you need to
[13:04] <dam0> what program can i decompress lzm with?
[13:04] <thiebaude> ubuntistas, i installed ubuntu-restricted-extras and medibuntu
[13:04] <hanasaki> how do I get gdm to let others login from vnc on a wn box
[13:04] <Shockrates> ActionParsnip1: the link isnt good
[13:04] <ActionParsnip1> adac: in the section that says Section Device    Identifier "Configured video device     EndSection
[13:04] <SurfyDudee> ill give it a go, do you know where i get alien from?
[13:04] <ChogyDan> ubuntistas: install flashplugin-installer for flash, is that what you are looking for?
[13:04] <ActionParsnip1> Shockrates: what link?
[13:04] <Shockrates> ActionParsnip1: i need a complete example how to mount it
[13:04] <hanasaki> dam0 try 7zip
[13:04] <Shockrates> ActionParsnip1: this http isnt good at all
[13:05] <Shockrates> guide shit
[13:05] <thiebaude> !language
[13:05] <ionut> hi.how can i update from ubuntu 8.04 to ubuntu 9.10 (if i can ,ofcourse) ?
[13:05] <ipatel> sixfish: insert a vista cd and then access the repair section and then run the following commands bootrec /FixBoot and bootrec /FixMbr
[13:05] <sixfish> ok let me try
[13:05] <ChogyDan> Shockrates: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab
[13:05] <ipatel> sixfish: that should reset your MBR (this is where grub is installed to)
[13:05] <sixfish> i am on differant laptop
[13:06] <sixfish> ipatel ok let me try
[13:06] <hanasaki> what is karmic vs koala?
[13:06] <ActionParsnip1> Shockrates:  /dev/hda1 /media/windows ntfs ro,dmask=0222,fmask=0333 0 0     assuming the ntfs partition is /dev/hda1 and the mount point /media/windows exists
[13:06] <SMiTTY> Shockrates, a quick google of    'mount ntfs ubuntu' turns up a number of pages that tell you exactly how to do it
[13:06] <adac> ActionParsnip1, Ok I added it. Still the same: no X after reboot
[13:06] <ipatel> sixfish: after that your windoze should boot
[13:06] <ActionParsnip1> !karmic | hanasaki
[13:06] <Squideshi> I am trying to mount an external USB hard drive on Ubuntu 9.04; but I don't know where the drive is appearing in /dev. How can I determine this?
[13:06] <sixfish> ipatel ok loading cd
[13:06] <ChogyDan> ionut: its probably best to backup and do a clean install
[13:06] <ionut> can anyone help me,i want to upgrate from ubuntu 8.04 to ubuntu 9.10 .how can i do that ?
[13:06] <ionut> ow
[13:06] <ActionParsnip1> adac: then you will need to check /var/log/Xorg.log.0
[13:06] <worldsayshi> Seems like when I try installing 9.10 netbook remix from usb it freezes just after choosing either install or desktop trial on bootup. Is this a bug that should be reported?
[13:06] <thiebaude> !upgrade
[13:06] <sixfish> ipatel it can not be a windows xp cd by any chance can it ?
[13:06] <SMiTTY> Squideshi,  dmesg and see what it came up as
[13:06] <Jaymac> ionut, you  have to upgrade step by step. i.e. 8.04 > 8.10 > 9.04 > 9.10
[13:07] <ChogyDan> ionut: if you don't have anything too complicated, then just backup your /home
[13:07] <ionut> yes
[13:07] <Shockrates> ActionParsnip1: so i first creat the mount point. then run mount /dev/hda1 /media/windows ntfs ro,dmask=0222,fmask=0333 0 0 ?
[13:07] <Shockrates> ActionParsnip1: what about fstab
[13:07] <hedkandi> hello
[13:07] <hedkandi> I've just installed karmic
[13:07] <ActionParsnip1> ionut: you cant jump like that, you must upgrade through each release in order
[13:07] <hedkandi> and there are items in the grub menu for ubuntu 9.04 and the old kernel
[13:07] <ActionParsnip1> Shockrates: thats the fstab entry
[13:07] <hedkandi> why is that?
[13:07] <ionut> i have 3 operating systems :ubuntu 8.04 open suse 11.1 and windows
[13:08] <ActionParsnip1> Shockrates: you will need to check which partition is the ntfs with: sudo fdisk -l
[13:08] <ChogyDan> ionut: you will be able to jump with 10.04, so 8.04 -> 10.04.  You could have to wait 6 months...
[13:08] <ActionParsnip1> Shockrates: you NEED to do this to verify as I have no way of knowing your partition layout
[13:08] <VirusTB> ionte,  nice, i got a tripple boot Laptop :P ubuntu, Win7 and XP (and then i got a Mac, and a server with Unbuntu)
[13:08] <hanasaki> what are the pros/cons of the rdp vs vnc servers?  I need encrption , connection from win and linux clients and auth against the saem /etc/password
[13:08] <thiebaude> ionte, can you burn a cd?
[13:08] <ActionParsnip1> hanasaki: vnc has no encryption
[13:08] <Squideshi> SMiTTY: I just unplugged and replugged, then checked the dmesg file in /var/log but it doesn't seem to have appended anything new to that log file. Am I doing something wrong?
[13:08] <ionut> yes
[13:08] <Shockrates> ActionParsnip1: so the complete commands are. after i find the partition and make the directory. mount /dev/hdb1 /media windows ntfs ro,dmask=0222,fmask=0333 0 0 ??
[13:09] <hanasaki> ActionParsnip1:  does rdp?
[13:09] <jesterjje> Hi, I've just upgrated to koala and I'm no longer able to paste into a gmail email, although paste works everywhere else.  It's the same in firefox -safe-mode.  Any ideas how to fix this?
[13:09] <adac> ActionParsnip1, Well there is the error like Open ACPI failed, has the acpid deamon died? try restarting it
[13:09] <ActionParsnip1> hanasaki: but you can implement it by using vnc through an ssh tunnel
[13:09] <thiebaude> ionte, got the ubuntu web site
[13:09] <thiebaude> goto
[13:09] <ActionParsnip1> hanasaki: rdp has encryption built in
[13:09] <hanasaki> ActionParsnip1:  hmm that's too much for my users :(
[13:09] <ActionParsnip1> adac: sounds like you need some boot option
[13:09] <lam2888> Hello!有中国人吗？
[13:09] <ActionParsnip1> !vnc | hanasaki
[13:09] <mrchrisadams> hi guys, I'm looking for a tutorial to help me upgrade a my netbook to the karmic netbook remix
[13:09] <echohhh> 有
[13:09] <thiebaude> ionte, it has all the details
[13:09] <hedkandi> I just installed karmic, and there are several kernels in /boot
[13:09] <ActionParsnip1> hanasaki: once you set it up its easy
[13:09] <mrchrisadams> can you do it without booting from a flashdrive?
[13:09] <ionut> ok,is ionut not ionte
[13:10] <hedkandi> notably 2.6.28-11 and 2.6.31-14
[13:10] <SMiTTY> Squideshi, try and simply type dmesg at the command prompt and see whats in the ring buffer
[13:10] <hedkandi> why is that?
[13:10] <Grozzy> What is the black box in the upper right corner called?
[13:10] <mrchrisadams> i.e. run something like update-manager from the commandline?
[13:10] <ActionParsnip1> hedkandi: you can uninstall the old kernels if they are surplus to release ~120Mb a kernel
[13:10] <thiebaude> ionut,
[13:10]  * lupine_85 installs karmic on his company's new LTSP server
[13:10] <lupine_85> go go gadget ltsp!
[13:10] <thiebaude> ionut, sorry
[13:10] <hedkandi> do you uninstall them with apt-get?
[13:10] <ionut> no problem
[13:10] <om26er1> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/160655
[13:10] <nfrs> trying to dist-upgrade 9.04->9.10 (the gui method couldn't resolve dependencies). there are like 200 packages that dist-upgrade wants to remove. how can I minimize this number?
[13:11] <fsckroot> actionparsnip1: intel 82801G sound not working on a Toshiba M500 - any suggestions?
[13:11] <OerHeks> Grozzy, black box upper right ? it supposed to be network icon
[13:11] <om26er1> ActionParsnip1: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/160655
[13:11] <OerHeks> you've found a bug !
[13:11] <ActionParsnip1> fsckroot: ive never had to troubleshoot sound in my life so im not a good help here
[13:11] <l3> Hi all: I just upgraded to 9.10 from 9.04 last night, and now i get a grub error 15: file not found
[13:12] <adac> ActionParsnip1, seems so. cause startx does work
[13:12] <fsckroot> ActionParsnip1: thanks anyway
[13:12] <lam2888> 请问Grub前面的memtest没找到怎么办？
[13:12] <Tesssa> found only 1 bug?
[13:12] <hanasaki> what is package gdm vs gdm-2.20  ?
[13:12] <ActionParsnip1> !bootoptions | adac
[13:12] <ubuntistas> is vlc and amsn ready for karmic?
[13:12] <l3> I thought grub 2 wouldnt try to install if I have grub 1, and googling claims that the bug if from a poor grub upgrade?
[13:12] <Squideshi> SMiTTY: Weird. It's talking about "SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices" but this is an IDE drive in an external USB enclosure!
[13:12] <ActionParsnip1> !info vlc
[13:12] <ActionParsnip1> !ino amsn
[13:12] <echohhh> lam2888 编辑一下menu.lst
[13:12] <adac> ActionParsnip1, k thx!
[13:12] <om26er1> ubuntistas: what kinda question is that
[13:13] <ActionParsnip1> ubuntistas: looks like amsn isnt on the official repos, theres nothing stopping you using a PPA
[13:13] <natschil> where can I find karmic md5sums?
[13:13] <l3> Ubuntu upgrade broke my distro :(  is this a known issue?
[13:13] <lam2888> 没有menu.lst,grub2的！
[13:13] <sixfish> ipatel i have no windows vista cd :(
[13:13] <sharperguy> !releasenotes
[13:13] <ActionParsnip1> natschil: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[13:13] <bazhang> lam2888, echohhh english here please, #ubuntu-cn for Chinese
[13:13] <jumbers> So last night my server went down unexpectedly and I contacted support and they told me the system had halted. Is there any place I might find a log of what happened to cause it to halt?
[13:13] <error404notfound> My system hangs up at "Deactivating swap" on shutdown, i found this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/449055 which tells that its fixed in 2.6.31-generic #48-Ubuntu. but as you see i have "Linux blade 2.6.31-14-generic #48-Ubuntu SMP Fri Oct 16 14:05:01 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux" and i am still facing the issue.
[13:13] <SMiTTY> Squideshi, yeah I believe one of my external drives do the same thing. Does it give you the device listed ? ie : /dev/sda ?
[13:14] <blue-pearl> natschil: http://noncdn.releases.ubuntu.com//releases/9.10/MD5SUMS
[13:14] <natschil> ActionParsnip1: thanks
[13:14] <wangbo> list
[13:14] <martinf> does the live cd contain a tool to check a physical disk for errors? I suspect my SSD might be failing
[13:14] <vika23> which application to use to monitor cpu temp in 9.10
[13:14] <ActionParsnip1> ubuntistas: https://launchpad.net/~amsn-daily/+archive/ppa   is the amsn daily build
[13:14] <lam2888> My english is very very bad!
[13:14] <tMx> how big should my swap drive be
[13:14] <lam2888> so sorry!
[13:14] <thiebaude> ubuntistas, i use vlc witj no problem
[13:14] <ipatel> sixfish: i am not too familiar with windoze workarounds
[13:14] <thiebaude> with
[13:14] <cyphase> is it just me, or is firefox slower in karmic?
[13:14] <Squideshi> SMiTTY: Not explicitly, but I did notice some mention of simply "sdb" and I just found that file in /dev; so I'm thinking that I should be able to mount it now.
[13:14] <ActionParsnip1> tMx: 2 x RAM if you have less than 2Gb. 1 x RAM if you have more or equal to 2Gb RAM
[13:15] <echohhh> lam2888 哦我这里还有的哦，你是全新安装的？如果是升级上来的应该还有的
[13:15] <blue-pearl> tMx: generally double of ur RAM
[13:15]  * thiebaude time to buy a new keyboard
[13:15] <Guest57640> yes firefox is slower
[13:15] <ipatel> tmx: atleast the sixe of ur RAM
[13:15] <tMx> ok thx
[13:15] <l3> why does swap need to be size of ram, at least?
[13:15] <Crippler> WTH did they drop Pidgin
[13:15] <cyphase> anyone know why firefox is slower?
[13:15] <bsusa> hello
[13:15] <ipatel> tMx: this is to ensure that the hibernation functionality works as it should
[13:15] <l3> If you have 12 Gig of ram, is it really needed?  does it get used for hybernate or whatever?
[13:15] <bsusa> does someone know how to change the default tv tuner settings globally?
[13:15] <jesterjje> Hi, I've just upgrated to koala and I'm no longer able to paste into a gmail email, although paste works everywhere else. It's the same in firefox -safe-mode. Any ideas how to fix this?
[13:15] <ActionParsnip1> l3: for hibernate as well as giving space for the swap to take place
[13:15] <lam2888> 我是安装的。
[13:16] <kankan_> anybody facing problem regarding booting?
[13:16] <echohhh> bazhang okok ^_^ but how do u know it's chinese ?
[13:16] <ActionParsnip1> l3: if you never exceed 12Gb used ram you can omit swap
[13:16] <ipatel> kankan: yes!!!!
[13:16] <l3> ActionParsnip1: what if you have memory in swap, and full ram, then hybernate?
[13:16] <ActionParsnip1> l3: not sure, i avoid hibernate,its a waste of time
[13:16] <echohhh> lam2888 then i think i can't help u, sorry
[13:16] <SMiTTY> Squideshi, Cool deal..
[13:16] <Squideshi> SMiTTY: Yes. Thanks again!
[13:16] <Mike_lifeguard> How can I install firefox 3.0? (the package named "firefox.3.0" isn't that)
[13:16] <kankan_> ipatel:what kind of prob are u facing?
[13:16] <l3> ActionParsnip: I usually find performance is so slow when i go over 12 G, that I only use 0.5 times swap to give me time to recover
[13:17] <natschil> doesn't bittorrent do any validation of content? I downloaded ubuntu-desktop-9.10 using bittorrent, but the md5hash is completely wrong. That sucks. I guess there isn't a way to find out which blocks are wrong, is there?
[13:17] <ipatel> kankan: ~150 secs of boot time
[13:17] <ionut> where i can download ubuntu 9.10 ?
[13:17] <ActionParsnip1> l3: nice
[13:17] <ActionParsnip1> !torrents | ionut
[13:17]  * natschil found the check data option of ktorrent.
[13:17] <Idhan> where are the repositories for xine and w32codecs in 9.10???
[13:17] <ipatel> kankan: check this out http://pastie.org/676619
[13:17] <lam2888> Ok!谢了！
[13:17] <l3> So, anyone know why my ubuntu 9.10 upgrade wrecked my grub?  getting error 15: file not found
[13:18] <xguru> anyone have any idea why the adobe flash 10 shows up for update, but it is being held back?
[13:18] <SMiTTY> Squideshi, no problem at all
[13:18] <emilioeduardob> hi! how can i check if the ubuntu install im using is 386 or 64bit release?
[13:18] <thiebaude> Idhan, for w32 codecs use medibuntu
[13:18] <SMiTTY> emilioeduardob,   uname -a
[13:18] <ActionParsnip1> emilioeduardob: uname -a
[13:18] <thiebaude> !medibuntu
[13:18] <ipatel> kankan: focus on lines 900 and 938
[13:18] <emilioeduardob> SMiTTY: tks!
[13:18] <SMiTTY> np
[13:18] <ActionParsnip1> emilioeduardob: I686 == 32BIT   X86_64 == 64Bit
[13:19] <Banane> Then what is the difference beetween i386 and i686
[13:19] <Idhan> thiebaude: thanks1
[13:19] <thiebaude> Idhan, np
[13:19] <Dieguito> Morning, can you remember me the name of the package of complements for ubntu?
[13:19] <Dieguito> *ubuntu?
[13:19] <ionut> does anyone  know the most important updates that comes with the new ubuntu (9.10?) i mean new features ?
[13:19] <nfrs> trying to dist-upgrade 9.04->9.10 (the gui method couldn't resolve dependencies). there are like 200 packages that dist-upgrade wants to remove. how can I minimize this number?
[13:20] <ActionParsnip1> Banane: i386 is the old intel 80386 @ about 16Mhz
[13:20] <ActionParsnip1> Banane: i686 references P3 and above
[13:21] <starcube> how would I play DVD's in ubuntu karmic on a fresh install? will smplayer do it without any other requirements?
[13:21] <igama> ActionParsnip1, but Ubuntu now days is all i486 or am i wrong?
[13:21] <thiebaude> !dvd
[13:21] <starcube> thiebaude:Thanks
[13:21] <ActionParsnip1> Banane: i586 referes to chips from 1993 to 1999 @ 300Mhz ish and regards MMX CPUs
[13:21] <ipatel> ionut: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/910
[13:21] <ActionParsnip1> igama: the installer is i386 to run on maximum CPUs
[13:21] <kankan_> ActionParsnip1:help me pls.i cannot log into ubuntu.it gets a blank screen after selection from grub menu.
[13:21] <nicklas_> hello, i am using the playdeb repos in karmic, also did in jaunty, in jaunty it installed latest warsow 0.5, but now it installs 0.42 ... why is that and how do i solve it?
[13:21] <sergeykish> Hello, I have a problem with upgrade - not enought space, 6 GB is good for system work, how can I make it use home partition for update?
[13:21] <knoxville> what is the apt-get command to download flash player?
[13:22] <ActionParsnip1> kankan_: if you make another user does it happen?
[13:22] <ionut> ipatel: thx
[13:22] <Banane> @ActionParsnip1 Ty
[13:22] <mattgyver> Hi, im using x11vnc to connect to my computer remotely.  I just upgraded to 9.10 now when i enter login info at the GDM it just restarts the GDM and does not login, anyone have this issue?
[13:22] <ActionParsnip1> knoxville: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[13:22] <ergy> is there any different quality between gstreamer and xine ?
[13:22] <kankan_> ActionParsnip1:no.
[13:22] <ActionParsnip1> Banane: wikipedia has good articles on it
[13:23] <Banane> ActionParsnip1: I'll look for it
[13:23] <natschil> sergeykish: try running apt-get clean. It will clean out your old downloaded package files.
[13:23] <Guitar_maniac> Coul anyone help me with timidity? i have installed it but nothing happens.. i try to get guitar pro working
[13:23] <gnubie> ionut;   http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/910features/     you might check here also
[13:23] <kindofabuzz> my sound is always muted on reboot. any fixes?
[13:23] <ActionParsnip1> kankan_: then i suggest you use your new user to move the ~/.g* folders into a new folder for holding. there is a dodgy bit in your gnome conf some place
[13:23] <vinay1> hi.trying to configure wireless network in ubuntu. but it is disabled..any driver is required?
[13:23] <Mondo> Anyone have sound issues upgrading to 9.10 with snd-hda-intel?  I alsa can't see any sound cards
[13:23] <joeD1> how to force a programm starting on e.g. the second workspace? e.g. "firefox &" typed in the bash will start firefox on the same workspace. anybody knows where to find the info? Thanks.
[13:24] <ipatel> vinay1: version of Ubuntu?
[13:24] <sergeykish> natschil: of course I tried,
[13:24] <ChogyDan> joeD1: wmctrl  naybe
[13:24] <sergeykish> natschil: I want `mount --bind` temp dirs
[13:25] <Kartagis> is there a way to convert chm to pdf?
[13:25] <Rewt`> is there a way via bash to list ip addresses of other computers on the network?
[13:25] <Kartagis> !chm
[13:25] <ActionParsnip1> Rewt`: you can use nmap
[13:25] <Sagaci> Guitar_maniac: on 9.10?
[13:25] <igama> Rewt`, look at nmap
[13:25] <unimatrix> is it a good idea to reserve 5% of the root partition for the superuser? i think it's a waste of space
[13:25] <Rewt`> Kartagis: you can open it, and use a print to pdf
[13:26] <Guitar_maniac> yes
[13:26] <Rewt`> ah.. nmap.. thanks.
[13:26] <Guitar_maniac> Sagaci: yes
[13:26] <ActionParsnip1> unimatrix: you can reduce it, this is of great debate as drives get bigger, 5% becomes a substantial amount of data
[13:26] <Mondo> Rewt: Use nmap or you can try arp -a (will list devices in the arp table)
[13:26] <lupine_85> Is there anyone on here I can poke to get a mirror approved? It's causing some problems for our users trying to upgrade to Karmic...
[13:27] <joeD1> ChogyDan: ok, check it out. Will tell you later. Thx so far.
[13:27] <unimatrix> ActionParsnip1: but what if i set it to 0%? what do i lose?
[13:27] <ubuntistas> do i have to enable karmic partner and source?
[13:27] <igama> ubuntistas, i recommend the partener
[13:27] <ActionParsnip1> unimatrix: you will be using ext2 essentially
[13:27] <igama> ubuntistas, i recommend the partener, the source is not needed
[13:27] <alabd> Is there  any else license allow us relicense ? like FreeBSD ?
[13:28] <prv> hello
[13:28] <vinay1> it's 2.6.27-7-generic
[13:28] <rafa_nunes> Hi all!
[13:30] <vinay1> Hi ipatel.. it's 2.6.27-7-generic
[13:30] <ubuntistas> when i put ppa in sources is it necessary to have enabled source code?
[13:30] <joaopinto> ubuntistas, no
[13:30] <prv> is there any Kubuntu users here, how's your karmic experience
[13:31] <ergy> prv : #kubuntu
[13:32] <MortarMan> hi i have upgraded to ubuntu 9.10. my mouse cursor hangs when i move cursor and press any key on keyboard at once, since ive downloaded some updates. how do i fix this ?
[13:32] <ChogyDan> ubuntistas: no
[13:32] <vinay1> Hi ipatel.the ubuntu version what i am using is 2.6.27-7-generic
[13:32] <Berzerker> MortarMan: are you on a laptop?
[13:32] <MortarMan> Berzerker: yes
[13:32] <Berzerker> MortarMan: you probably have "disable touchpad while typing" enabled
[13:33] <Berzerker> MortarMan: a feature designed to guard against inadvertant touchpad movements/clicks while typing
[13:33] <MortarMan> Berzerker: thanks, do you know where exactly, or at least cli command ?
[13:33] <Berzerker> MortarMan: it's under mouse preferences.
[13:33] <Berzerker> MortarMan: System > Preferences
[13:33] <theadmin> Well, Karmic is awesome.
[13:33] <MortarMan> Berzerker: thanks bb good luck
[13:34] <slaxz> hey guys, i've recently installed kubuntu 9.10 and have the following problem: i have 2 sound devices (sb audigy for music and ac97 for mic) - on boot either audigy is used for soundoutput in the browser and ac97 for amarok or vice versa. - i would like to have the audigy device for complete sound output (excepting skype)
[13:34] <rafa_nunes> I download the ubuntu 9.10 and mount the ISO. How can I run that?
[13:34] <ubuntistas> i just put ppa for amsn i did update and upgrade and only a few packages are installed not amsn and amsn data skins any clue?
[13:34] <Banane> rafa_nunes: Burn it
[13:34] <theadmin> rafa_nunes: Run an upgrade? Or do you want a fresh install?
[13:34] <Kartagis> rafa_nunes, mount -o loop
[13:35] <vinay1> can anybody help me in configuring wireless network in ubuntu.. i am using 2.6.27-7-generic version.
[13:35] <theadmin> vinay: 9.10?
[13:35] <Banane> rafa_nunes: If u want a fresh install you have to burn the image and simply boot it
[13:35] <vinay1> may be.. dont now..how to check?
[13:35] <rafa_nunes> theadmin: A fresh install, I did the upgrade bust a lot of things stopped. So, It would be better start from a fresh install
[13:36] <rafa_nunes> Banane: Can not do that, no cd drive.
[13:36] <joeD1> ChogyDan: As far as I see no, wmctrl is not the solution. I'm looking for something where I can force anykind of programm to start on the specified workspace, by writing one command in the bash. Any other idea, where to look?
[13:36] <theadmin> rafa_nunes: Burn it, with brasero for instance, and boot from it.... If you can't burn, i can't help with that.
[13:36] <chazco> Hi... on 9.04 I used totem-xine to watch DVB. This doesn't seem to work on 9.10 with totem-gstreamer - any fixes?
[13:36] <ionut> i have one question , i want to overwrite the 9.10 version (in the /dev/sda5) what i must to do ?
[13:36] <Banane> rafa_nunes: ShipIt
[13:36] <jetienne> !info rails
[13:36] <ubuntistas> i just put ppa for amsn i did update and upgrade and only a few packages are installed not amsn and amsn data skins any clue?
[13:36] <rafa_nunes> theadmin: Can't burn, no cd drive
[13:37] <theadmin> ubuntistas: Then those are already the latest.
[13:37] <theadmin> rafa_nunes: get one. Or order a free CD at http://shipit.ubuntu.com
[13:37] <tavish> rafa_nunes: try usb creator
[13:37] <EagleScreen> ionut: is root partition "/" in sda5?
[13:37] <jo> who is the know all today
[13:37] <rohan> what is the procedure to make liveusb stick for ubuntu 9.10? usb-creator on ubuntu 8.04 doesn't seem to work
[13:37] <IonutB> kernel error, ubuntu 9.10. printscreen: http://i38.tinypic.com/mwt7ao.png . any idea ?
[13:37] <ionut> yes
[13:37] <ionut> rohan: yes
[13:38] <rohan> ionut: yes what?
[13:38] <EagleScreen> install the new system and set its root / in sda5, formatting
[13:38] <theadmin> rohan: Try unetbootin
[13:38] <rafa_nunes> theadmin: No, I don't have a CD/DVD drive on my computer.
[13:38] <ionut> in /dev/sda5 i have ext3
[13:38] <theadmin> rafa_nunes: As stated, you can't install it without having one.
[13:38] <ubuntistas> so how do i install amsn theadmin
[13:38] <rohan> theadmin: hmm ok
[13:39] <rafa_nunes> Banane: I meant I do not have a CD/DVD driver on my computer.
[13:39] <xukun> I'm really liking karmic, so far everything is working out of the box on my first machine. I sound and my headset are working like they should. This is the first time for me anyway
[13:39] <kindofabuzz> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded. but when i do a dist-upgrade it still says the same
[13:39] <Banane> rafa_nunes: I dont know any method without a CD
[13:39] <theadmin> kindofabuzz: What do you have? Jaunty?
[13:39] <syk> !wubi
[13:40] <vinay1> hi..plz guide me in configuring wireless network
[13:40] <rafa_nunes> Banane: That's fine, thank you anyway.
[13:40] <snellcode> rafa_nunes: use a usb stick
[13:40] <kindofabuzz> theadmin, no, karmic server
[13:40] <bthomson> dist upgrade!! scary
[13:40] <rafa_nunes> theadmin: Thank you anyway.
[13:40] <xukun> vinay1, what is the problem?
[13:40] <nfrs> trying to dist-upgrade 9.04->9.10 (the gui method couldn't resolve dependencies). there are like 300 packages that dist-upgrade wants to remove. how can I minimize this number?
[13:40] <theadmin> kindofabuzz: Maybe you can't upgrade because Karmic is the latest. Happened yesterday.
[13:40] <theadmin> nfrs: I wouldn't worry.
[13:40] <Geysser> Guys,I can't upgrade to 9.10!Can't fetch new repositories!Any idea?
[13:41] <Guest57640> Hi again! i can't get in to ubuntu i am trapped in the start screen do u know why.i have try to write alt +ctrl+f1 but it still not work ( I am tired )
[13:41] <nfrs> theadmin: well, it wants to remove packages like bzr (?!)
[13:41] <Banane> rafa_nunes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[13:41] <thedude42> Geysser, change your download location
[13:41] <kindofabuzz> theadmin, no it says 2 packages have been held back. usuall a dist-upgrade instaed of a normal upgrade takes care of that
[13:41] <DeadmanIncJS> what is the room name for compiz?
[13:41] <u1> hi
[13:41] <ubuntistas> i just put ppa for amsn i did update and upgrade and only a few packages are installed not amsn and amsn data skins any clue?
[13:41] <patrickT> !compiz
[13:41] <DeadmanIncJS> nm i got it
[13:41] <Geysser> TheDude24, I try to upgrade from update manager.How do I do that?
[13:41] <DeadmanIncJS> thanks though PatrickT :)
[13:41] <nfrs> theadmin: I obviously don't want to install all them by hand after doing the upgrade...
[13:41] <patrickT> :)
[13:42] <u1> My Logitech USB mouse freezes very frequently, so I have to unplug the cable and plug it to get work, but after a while it freezes again
[13:42] <thedude42> Geysser, inder administration -> software sources
[13:42] <Scuttle> Hm, I am trying to add two keys to my apt gpg keychain, but keyserver.ubuntu.com doesn't seem to respond...something wrong?
[13:42] <theadmin> nfrs: Well, if you don't know what it is don't worry, i can tell everything works fine. bzr is some old stuff, most likely nobody even needs it by now, same with others
[13:42] <Guest57640> pleas I can't get in to ubuntu i am trapped in the start screen do u know why.i have try to write alt +ctrl+f1 but it still not work ( I am tired )
[13:42] <patrickT> Guest57640: did it show any errors?
[13:42] <nfrs> theadmin: I d oknow what it is, and I don't want it removed
[13:42] <Guest57640> no
[13:43] <Guest57640> patrickT: it's freze
[13:43] <patrickT> Guest57640: start screen you mean when you logged into ubuntu
[13:43] <theadmin> nfrs: It removed, like, 750 old packages here, so? It still works, even better then 9.04 as a matter of fact.
[13:43] <Guest57640> yes
[13:43] <Geysser> Found it!Main server or server from US?
[13:43] <theadmin> Geysser: Main is prefferable, it works for sure
[13:43] <patrickT> reboot pc and when ubuntu starts loading press esc to see the loading text and look for any errors
[13:44] <Scuttle> "apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 91E7EE5E 318C7509"... it just sits there..
[13:44] <cwill747> Guest57640: try using ctrl+alt+backspace
[13:44] <chazco> Is there any way to install a piece of software if it conflicts with something else?
[13:44] <Geysser> Thanks Dude!!! :)
[13:44] <Guest57640> patrickT: ok i will try
[13:44] <grawity> Scuttle: pool.sks-keyservers.net
[13:44] <theadmin> chazco: Most likely not, cause you can ruin stuff
[13:44] <JuJuBee> How do I view nis login authentications?  I don't see them in auth.log
[13:44] <EagleScreen> can I pass a Ubuntu CD iamge to an usb-stick with dd?
[13:44] <patrickT> did you install any graphics drivers?
[13:44] <bourke> hi, when I click 'connect' in my ubuntu one folder, nothing happens, anyone have any suggestions?
[13:44] <patrickT> EagleScreen: you want to boot from usb
[13:44] <patrickT> ?
[13:45] <EagleScreen> yes
[13:45] <nfrs> theadmin: I use a lot of these packages: brasero, amarok, deluge, evince, evolution, exaile, gconf2(!), gksu(!), etc
[13:45] <patrickT> look for unetbootin
[13:45] <patrickT> !unetbootin
[13:45] <chazco> theadmin - Ah... in other words I can either have local playback (gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad) or DVB (gstreamer0.10-fluendo-mpegdemux). Pity :(
[13:45] <vinay1> wired connection is working..i tried configuring by preferences>>network configuration>>wireless..but it is not recognising..when i run the command  sudo lshw -C network sudo lshw -C netwok,i got below otput
[13:45] <vinay1>        description: Network controller
[13:45] <vinay1>        product: BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN
[13:45] <vinay1>        vendor: Broadcom Corporation
[13:45] <vinay1>        physical id: 0
[13:45] <FloodBot2> vinay1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:45] <web5|org|ua> 9.10 a bit broken.
[13:45] <vinay1>        bus info: pci@0000:01:00.0
[13:45] <cwill747> EagleScreen: you can also try the ubuntu USB disk creator
[13:45]  * crescendo tests
[13:45] <cwill747> EagleScreen: it's under System -> Administration
[13:46] <patrickT> EagleScreen: !unetbootin
[13:46] <EagleScreen> I only want to know if dd method works
[13:46] <zyxxy> any fix yet for the headphone switch regression?
[13:46] <ZykoticK9> bourke, i have the same problem with UbuntuOne right now -- i haven't upgraded, i'm still on my 9.04 - as it was working fine yesterday -- perhaps this is just a temporary problem with the servers?
[13:46] <nsahoo> is there a way to upgrade to ubuntu 9.10 from 9.04 remotely?
[13:46] <EagleScreen> dd if=ubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdc
[13:46] <bourke> ZykoticK9: thats what Im hoping..
[13:47] <zyxxy> on jaunty, my speakers were muted automatically when plugging in headphones in the front panel; it's broken on karmic.
[13:47] <Geysser> BTW, is there any risk?Could I loose data?
[13:47] <SurfyDudee> Hey I have a driver for my dwa 160 usb wifi dongle....but its as an rpm...i cant install alien as i dont have net under ubuntu...would anyone kindly convert it for me?
[13:47] <bourke> ZykoticK9: I can log into the web interface fine, but the client wasnt working yesterday either. its disappointing Id like to give it a go
[13:47] <coz_> hay guys..well clean install of karmic and it goes something like this... turn computer on... about 5 seconds to pull up grub menu...then a 30 second black screen...then the white ubuntu logo for about 10 seconds.. then ubuntu with throbber progress bar...then log on then ubuntu with throbber again.... somehow this all seems like slow overkill to me..just thought I would mention it :)
[13:47] <Tesssa> once again help.. why when i try to install 9.10 i have downloaded and burned to a cd as required does it install up to 3of6 the timezone thewn i click forward and it jumps to 4of7 and instead of the partition manager all i get is a white blank box and it also wipes the partion manger from xubuntu 9.4
[13:47] <vinay1> any driver problem it is!!
[13:47] <Tesssa> i have jst had to reinstall 9.4
[13:48] <SurfyDudee> ftp://ftp.dlink.co.uk/wireless/dwa-160/DWA-160_driver_3.2.0.17_rev_A1_linux.zip
[13:48] <elpapa16> alguien que hable español
[13:48] <SurfyDudee> I need that file as a .deb
[13:48] <BlouBlou> how can I configure evolution for get hotmail's email?
[13:48] <Pici> !es | elpapa16
[13:49] <cwill747> EagleScreen: check out http://bit.ly/wIKSp . search for To make a bootable flash drive
[13:49] <kindofabuzz> what package is the add-apt-repository included in? i'd like to have it on my server
[13:49] <vinay1> plz anybody guide me in configuring wireless network..It seems all are busy:)
[13:50] <ubuntistas> i just put ppa for amsn i did update and upgrade and only a few packages are installed not amsn and amsn data skins any clue?
[13:50] <DJones> BlouBlou: It should just be a ase of adding a new account, hotmail now allows pop3 for all accounts, the settings are listed here http://www.mydigitallife.info/2009/01/16/hotmail-free-pop3-and-smtp-access-and-server-configuration-settings/
[13:50] <cwill747> vinay1: do you already have it set up? Like your WAP and everything? and are just trying to get to it on ubuntu?
[13:50] <n8tuser> vinay1-> have you ever tried to google for some tutorial first?
[13:50] <kindofabuzz> !add-apt-repository
[13:50] <BlouBlou> DJones: thanks :)
 i want to share the internet connection between a kubuntu and xubuntu box via ethernet. they kubuntu box only has internet access
[13:51] <Shockrates> --> agelos (n=agelos@ppp089210213146.dsl.hol.gr) has joined #kubuntu
 how can i do it?
[13:51] <geolr> Hi all! Scanbuttond Epson Perfection 610 (on USB) and a Logitech webcam. How to prevent scanbuttond to acquire from the webcam instead of the scanner? Thanks!
[13:51] <cwill747> !wireless > vinay1
[13:51] <aresnick> Is it possible to shrink a partition without losing data?  (say, if it's 45% used)
[13:51] <JuJuBee> Where does NIS log authentications?
[13:51] <guimaluf> galera, tó querendo comprar um router/accesspoint pra uma sala de apróx 12 máquinas em rede wireless. O que deve ser levado em consideração na hora de comprar o equipamento pra evitar interferencia e ter o melhor aprovietamento da banda??
[13:52] <n8tuser> Shockrates-> you want to use your host as a router?
[13:52] <Pici> !br | guimaluf
[13:52] <geolr> aresnick: should be, i guess parted would be a tools to check out. But watch out this is a tricky and risky task.
[13:52] <guimaluf> sorry
[13:52] <idaho_> hi :) and by, xchat automat is not what i was looking for... ca
[13:52] <kindofabuzz> what package is the add-apt-repository included in? i'd like to have it on my server
[13:52] <Geysser> I'm upgrading!i'm upgrading!S...t I'm scared!!!!
[13:52] <vinay1> i tried sir.. even i can get the trouble shooting page of ubuntu.. but i am not clear..
[13:52] <syberhunter> Hello,  i upgraded from 9.04 to 9.10 last night and all went well except Ubuntu Software Center did not load, still have Synaptic and Add/Remove..anyone know how to change this?
[13:53] <IHS_Volunteer> Does canonical update the install disks they offer for download after a while?
[13:53] <h4f> libqt-mt.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory : trying to install with --force-architecture an 32bit application. I just had installed libqt-mt3 but that didn't help
[13:53] <cwill747> aresnick: you should be able to, if you use gparted. It's supposed to safely do it from a live cd
[13:53] <aresnick> cwill747, geolr: OK, awesome--thanks!
[13:53] <cwill747> !gparted | aresnick
[13:54] <ionte> hey, i'm the only one with keyboard troubles in 9.10? for example: alt-gr works in gnome terminal, but not in gedit, firefox, etc ... (alt-gr is needed on a swedish keyboard)
[13:54] <nsahoo> remote upgrade to karmic?
[13:54] <n8tuser> IHS_Volunteer-> the big livecd iso is created once, and the new updates are downloadable but i dont think as a new iso
[13:55] <ionut> when i wanted to install the 9.10  i got this message:  coudn't find the boot loader
[13:55] <ionut> what  i must to do ?
[13:56] <cwill747> syberhunter: try using sudo apt-get install software-center
[13:57] <beachdaze> if I add something similar to fstab "//<IP of host>/path/to/share /home/<user>/folder cifs auto 0 0" it gets mounted as root?
[13:57] <cwill747> syberhunter: that's the package for the software center
[13:57] <zer0her0> should i be asking 9.10 questions in here?
[13:57] <h4f> where do I get getlibs.deb from ?
[13:57] <mattgyver> Anybody having issues with gnome-do starting on login in 9.10?
[13:57] <cwill747> zer0her0: yes. go for it
[13:57] <DJones> zer0her0: Yes, 9.10 questions are fine here
[13:57] <bazhang> zer0her0, yep
[13:57] <ActionParsnip1> zer0her0: yes as it is officially released now
[13:57] <SMuZZ> are there people that has problem with suspend hibernate on laptops on a upgraded karmic install ?
[13:57] <blackxored> mattgyver, which kind of issues
[13:58] <IHS_Volunteer> So, I'll probably be updating my home computer to karmic tonight.
[13:58] <cwill747> h4f: from the forums, i got the site http://frozenfox.freehostia.com/cappy/
[13:58] <zer0her0> in 9.04 screen launched a nice set up app, i of course forgot to back up my .screenrc file, and screen in 9.10 doesn't seem to launch that setup anymore, is there a way to kick that back into gear or is that gone?
[13:58] <blackxored> mattgyver, I'm running gnome-do without issues here
[13:58] <mattgyver> blackxored: sorry its not starting on login, though set, i thought i put that i guess not ;x
[13:58] <Psinetic> I need some serious help :(. I'm new to ubuntu, i was on ubuntu 9.04, tried to upgrade to 9.10. I couldn't upgrade via update manager because the system proxy wouldn't stop trying to connect to tor even after i removed it. I was able to run "do-release-update" (or do-release-upgrade i don't remember). It said it had some kind of bug or something, so i rebooted the computer, and it keeps telling me it can't boot to the hard drive. I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO
[13:58] <Psinetic>  someone please help!!! :( :'(
[13:58] <h4f> cwill747: thanks
[13:59] <mr-dedup> do any of you know of an airodump[aircrack-ng] IRC channel
[13:59] <syberhunter> thanks cwill747
[13:59] <MK13> is there anyone here who can help me get the network icon back on the panel?
[13:59] <blackxored> mattgyver, it's displayed on gnome-session-properties
[14:00] <cwill747> MK13: this may seem a little obvious, but did you right click and hit "add to panel"?
[14:00] <keba> ive installed kubuntu karmic recently. i forgot to save my grub2-files and after installting, kubuntu does not want to boot. in a chroot i cannot do update-grub2 oder grub-install because my partitions werent found correctly
[14:00] <keba> ive done a "sudo grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg" before
[14:00] <Psinetic> is anyone going to help me? :(
[14:00] <MK13> cwill747, i tried but didn't know which app to add
[14:00] <bazhang> Psinetic, patience please
[14:00] <cwill747> MK13: yeah, i was just looking at it too
[14:00] <jonte> hi I am using ubuntu 9.10 installed with wubi (dual boot with windows xp ) now when I  chose ubuntu in dual boot it came up gnu grub?
[14:00] <Psinetic> bazhang: ok, thank you
[14:01] <beachdaze> if I add something similar to fstab "//<IP of host>/path/to/share /home/<user>/folder cifs auto 0 0" it gets mounted as root?
[14:01] <MK13> cwill747, i think it is the notification one... but everything else shows (battery/sound)
[14:01] <IHS_Volunteer> jonte, grub is what boots linux.
[14:01] <ktzkk> I can not upgrade to 9.10 , it shows no connection to internet
[14:01] <MK13> cwill747, i just have a blank spot where the network one goes
[14:01] <ktzkk> but i connect already
[14:01] <dreambox> hello friends. I am planning on installing Ubuntu this weekend, I have a long fbsd experience so i guess I won't face serious issues, but I'd like to know if there's someone that has installed it on a TOSHIBA SATELLITE A300 (I am not sure about the short model)
[14:01] <jonte> IHS_Volunteer: heheh  what shall I do when it came up?
[14:02] <mr-dedup> anyone aircrack-ng?
[14:02] <ubuntistas> how can i refresh desktop icons dissapeared
[14:02] <syberhunter> it worked cwill747...thanks again!
[14:02] <IHS_Volunteer> jonte, let it do its thing until Ubuntu boots, unless it gives an error.
[14:02] <cwill747> syberhunter: no problem
[14:02] <fakeer> downloaded alternate CD .. thought I'll upgrade but now I want to do a clean reinstall. Never used anything other than LiveCD . Looking for a webpage with screenshots or steps for a alternate CD ubuntu installation
[14:02] <nanotube> mr-dedup: doesn't seem to be one on freenode...
[14:02] <mr-dedup> just looking for some help on good troubleshooting docs, I understand what I am supposed to be doing, but the tools are not working....a channel would be GREAT!  thanks
[14:02] <jonte> IHS_Volunteer: it dosen't do anything
[14:02] <nanotube> mr-dedup: try looking on oftc
[14:02] <mattgyver> blackxored: yeah i see it enabled within startup applications, and i see it turned on within gnome-do itself, however i have to manually start it then it works.  On login its not.
[14:02] <cwill747> MK13: try adding the notification bar again
[14:03] <blackxored> mattgyver, weird
[14:03] <_scribeb0> hey, im looking for a program that can batch convert a ton of wmv's to xvid /divx avi's any suggestions?
[14:03] <mikebeecham> hi guys...I've recently upgraded to Karmic (9.10) and I've suddently realised that Synaptic is broken? Is this a known issue?
[14:03] <mr-dedup> nanotube: thanks!  I will
[14:03] <VirusTB> :(
[14:03] <jayce> Has anybody installed karmic with multiple hard drives installed in their computer yet????
[14:03] <mattgyver> blackxored: yea i know not sure why its like that.
[14:03] <hit> hi,everybody!
[14:03] <dreambox> mikebeecham : What laptop
[14:03] <ActionParsnip1> mikebeecham: what is the output of: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[14:03] <fbn> Hi, I have the problem that Ubutnu One does not connect, any idea why?
[14:03] <mattgyver> blackxored: it worked in 9.04, i just upgraded to 9.10 and thats the only issue.
[14:03] <tMx> exists a programm to convert a youtube video to mp3  for ubuntu ?
[14:03] <IHS_Volunteer> jonte, strange. Grub often has a wait time, then boots the OS. ubuntu usually has a very small wait time. Wubi might make some changes... I don't dual boot in any way, so I'm not sure what'd happen
[14:03] <Psinetic> bazhang: are you working on my problem or did you mean patience as far as just waiting for someone else to?
[14:03] <ActionParsnip1> mikebeecham: use http://pastebin.com
[14:03] <nobilis> can i install moblin 2.0 on top of karmic?
[14:04] <Lord2> on karmik: "ping cname" -> "unknown host" But "host cname" -> correctly solves the address. thanks
[14:04] <hit> how can i make a bootdisk with my flash disk?
[14:04] <ZykoticK9> fbn, i think it's down right now (hear web interface IS working)
[14:04] <ubuntistas> how can i refresh desktop icons dissapeared
[14:04] <fakeer> how to install Ubuntu using Alternate CD. Any tutorial or screenshots?
[14:04] <bazhang> hit an iso to usb flash key?
[14:04] <MK13> cwill747, it just added a blank one
[14:04] <blackxored> mattgyver, I got similar issues with awn in karmic beta, what I did at that time was to disable them both on gnome-session-properties and in the app interface, then log out and in enabling and log out and in again, try that :P
[14:04] <Psinetic> hit, you can make a bootdisk with an ubuntu live cd, it has the program for that
[14:04] <ActionParsnip1> hit: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/usb-ubuntu-904-persistent-install-windows/
[14:04] <hit> no
[14:04] <Psinetic> hit, let me find you the name of the software, maybe you can install it
[14:04] <cwill747> hit: got to System -> Administration ->USB creator
[14:04] <ZykoticK9> ubuntistas, open terminal type xkill click on "start menu" will restart nautilus which draws desktop icons
[14:05] <mattgyver> blackxored: it sounds so simple, it just might work!
[14:05] <cwill747> MK13: i'm looking around
[14:05] <jonte> IHS_Volunteer: i have install ubuntu before in same computer and it worked fine
[14:05] <hit> i want to create my own
[14:05] <Psinetic> hit "USB Startup Disk Creator"
[14:05] <mikebeecham> ActionParsnip1: http://pastebin.ca/1649265
[14:05] <rhebus> I have two normal users on my system: pgp and pgp2. My login screen only displays pgp2, and not pgp. [I login using "Other..."] I suspect this is because pgp is user number 652 and pgp2 is number 1001, but I'm not sure. How can I fix it so that pgp is also listed at the login screen?
[14:05] <mikebeecham> ActionParsnip1: the pastebin you gave me kept tripping out..I used another
[14:05] <dreambox> mikebeecham : What laptop .
[14:05] <blackxored> hit, try unetbootin and remastersys
[14:05] <cwill747> MK13: look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=423543
[14:06] <mikebeecham> dreambox: no laptop P4 PC
[14:06] <fbn> ZykoticK9, ah thanks I already thought so. Just too bad that there is no information to the user
[14:06] <hit> thx
[14:06] <jayce> Has anybody installed karmic with multiple hard drives installed in their computer yet????
[14:06] <IHS_Volunteer> jonte, I don't know what to tell you, then. I might grab a windows box and try wubi later, but right now, I can't really help, no experience with that particular setup.
[14:06] <ActionParsnip1> mikebeecham: ok can you run: sudo dpkg --configure -a sudo apt-get -f install        if you get any error outputs please use pastebin
[14:06] <cwill747> jayce: yes.
[14:06] <Psinetic> if someone is working on my problem please let me know so that I will know there's someone working on it :(
[14:06] <jonte> IHS_Volunteer: okay  :(
[14:06] <bazhang> fakeer, I just installed fresh with the alternate, what questions/issues did you have
[14:06] <jayce> cwill747 - did you have any issues? Im having a helluva headache with karmic an dmultiple drives....
[14:07] <mikebeecham> ActionParsnip1: thanks man...seems to be good now :D
[14:07] <dkalaluhi> Has anybody had any success installing the nVidia 190. driver for a Quadro NVS 280 SD?
[14:07] <cwill747> jayce: they pretty much all worked for me, but all my other drives are NTFS. So i've been using NTFS-3g. what's your problem?
[14:07] <ActionParsnip1> mikebeecham: cool
[14:07] <mattgyver> blackxored: this is what i get for not wanting to do a clean install ;)
[14:07] <fakeer> bazhang: thanks..u r here too :P ..... i couldn't find the graphic interface i used to find earlier with LiveCD...
[14:08] <fakeer> bazhang: so scared I quit..and began searchign for tutorials :(
[14:08] <blackxored> mattgyver, my karmic is through upgrades as well, I'll probably do a clean-install but only for x86_64 migration, it's working fine
[14:08] <AL__> I am looking for support for installing karmic 64-bit on a hard drive with multiple Os.  Is this the correct place to ask?
[14:08] <jayce> cwill747 - I have 4 drives in my system. 1 main, 1 backup (for me) and 2 samba drives. the other 3 drives are mounted by fstab, I always take care of that.
[14:08] <bazhang> fakeer, right, it is ncurses based, you need to use the tab key to get through the various choices, along with the arrow keys
[14:08] <conb123> Hey is there anything for grub that can load usb sticks? Because i have a bootable ubuntu usb stick here but my bios will not boot usb for some unknown reason
[14:08] <zer0her0> sorry, stepped away from the keyboard for a minute, i see no highlights i take it no one used the screen thing in 9.04
[14:08] <ziyou> 怎么没人说话啊？
[14:08] <jayce> cwill747 - I installed karmic and it keeps thinking my two samba drives are raid - and they are not. my motherboard doesnt even support raid.
[14:09] <mattgyver> blackxored: yeah im just going through checking out my crash reports, i think some of these crashing or non-working apps might not have been installed from the repos, i might have done it manually at the time, i cant remember.
[14:09] <bazhang> ziyou, english here, #ubuntu-cn for Chinese
[14:09] <cwill747> !msg ubottu cn
[14:09] <tMx> this is a song la la la la elmo song
[14:09] <hit> ziyou ,Äã»áËµººÓï°¡
[14:09] <bazhang> tMx, ??
[14:09] <jayce> cwill747 - as if that wasnt enough of a headache, if I plug just 1 samba drive in, the raid thing is gone. So I thought - awesome, mount it by fstab, reboot, power on last drive, maybe itll be fine. But when I mount by fstab and try to open the drives up, I get an error about it failing and only root can do it.
[14:09] <blackxored> mattgyver, fine
[14:09] <zer0her0> what's the ubuntu chat/offtopic chan?
[14:09] <DJones> !ot | zer0her0
[14:09] <fakeer> bazhang: alright, but what to do when i reach partitioner? and language etc?? are you sure i won't have much problem..??
[14:09] <bazhang> #ubuntu-offtopic zer0her0
[14:09] <cwill747> !cn | ziyou
[14:09] <jayce> cwill747 - Ive used fstab many times, so its frustrating to be at a place now where my 3 backup drives arent accessible cause karmic isnt playing nice.
[14:10] <zer0her0> DJones: thanks :)
[14:10] <ZykoticK9> cwill747, it's "/msg ubottu" not "!msg ubottu"
[14:10] <DMK> Has anybody had any success installing the nVidia 190. driver for a Quadro NVS 280 SD? on karmic..guess I should clarify
[14:10] <DMK> and that would be rev c1
[14:10] <cwill747> ZykoticK9: yeah. i know. can't i hit a wrong key? haha
[14:10] <fakeer> bazhang: i am fine with text based installers too but i was afraid if i have type partition locations or commands as i am not comfortable with it.... though i am fine with TAB
[14:10] <ActionParsnip1> DMK: i have
[14:10] <bazhang> fakeer, I'm not sure, but its not terribly difficult; is this on a different computer from the one you are currently irc'ing on
[14:11] <ActionParsnip1> DMK: http://www.webupd8.org/2009/08/how-to-install-nvidia-190xx-drivers-in.html I use this repo
[14:11] <AL__> Hello,
[14:11] <AL__> I currently have 64-Bit machine that has a 250 GB SATA drive that has three primary partitions and a extended partition. The three primary partitions sda1, sda2, and sda3 are 20.5 GB each and have jaunty 64-bit, hardy 32-bit, and windows 7 RC Os installed previously on them, respectively. The extended partition (sda4) is about 171.7 GB and is divided uniformly and consecutively as follows:
[14:11] <AL__> sda9 4GB Linux swap
[14:11] <AL__> sda10 12GB NTFS --used
[14:11] <FloodBot2> AL__: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:11] <AL__> sda11 25GB ext3 ---> empty partition I wish to place the new Karmic 64-bit OS
[14:11] <AL__> sda5 33.2GB NTFS --used
[14:11] <klaas2> why does ubuntu netbook remix require more RAM than standard Ubuntu?
[14:11] <AL__> sda6 34.5 GB NTFS --used
[14:11] <AL__> sda7 34.7 GB NTFS -- used
[14:11] <cwill747> jayce: yeah, I think in general samba drives are headaches. the samba conf file was prob the biggest project i've ever done. I cant think of what's up with yours
[14:11] <AL__> sda8 28.3 GB NTFS --used
[14:11] <AL__> My question is if I try to install the Karmic 64-Bit OS on the above empty partition, will the new partitioner install a grub boot menu that will recognize all the other operating systems? If not, what is the best way to install it to allow all of them to be recognized at boot menu? How can I use the manual partitioner so that all of them are recognized.
[14:11] <bazhang> AL__, use pastebin
[14:11] <AL__> I tried to install Karmic in the above manner. When I got to the partitioning screen, it showed all of the other other systems and had the radio button filled ["install side by side"] but did not instruct me on where to install the OS. When I pressed the option to go to the next screen, I received the message "Everything will be deleted."
[14:11] <ActionParsnip1> klaas2: tweak the oS
[14:11] <DJones> !paste | AL__
[14:11] <AL__> Thanks,
[14:11] <fakeer> bazhang: i am irc'ing from Vista and it's on smae computer...in another partion..9.04 installed..but messed up..so want a fresh install..
[14:11] <xukun> Hi everybody. I just installed ubuntu karmic 64 bit on usb, installation went ok but after reboot it says "grub error 15' any idea why or how to fix this?
[14:11] <jayce> cwill747 - it has nothing to do with samba, though. Im fine with samba. These drives are mounted within ubuntu by fstab and it cant even do that in karmic.
[14:12] <LiteHedded> where do I go to adjust the brightness of my display?
[14:12] <beachdaze> if I add something similar to fstab "//<IP of host>/path/to/share /home/<user>/folder cifs auto 0 0" it gets mounted as root?  Need it mounted as user
[14:12] <klaas2> ActionParsnip1: 512 RAM is listed as minimum on the canonical.com netbook section, while karmic only requires 256
[14:12] <bazhang> fakeer, will you be doing manual partitioning, or guided
[14:12] <jari> lista
[14:12] <syk> xukun, does it hang there?
[14:12] <DMK> ActionParsnip1 thx
[14:12] <jonte> when I dual boot ubuntu in windows,grub came up and it says sh: grub_ what shall I write ?
[14:12] <ActionParsnip1> klaas2: its only recommended
[14:13] <DMK> will try this..and see what happens
[14:13] <ActionParsnip1> klaas2: it is interesting though
[14:13] <cwill747> jayce: i know, i was just complaining. i don't know what the problem could be.
[14:13] <xukun> syk, yes it does
[14:14] <fakeer> bazhang: manual...as i'll put 9.10 in the same partition where 9.04 is right now..no other change...so, i guess partitioning is already done
[14:14] <MK13> cwill747, any idea how to disable the login prompt sound
[14:14] <klaas2> ActionParsnip1: the site says "minimum hardware requirements" = 512 RAM, is that incorrect?
[14:14] <klaas2> MK13: system -> preferences -> sound
[14:14] <MarcoPau> hello guys, I just dist-upgraded to karmic and wireless is not working any more. wlan0 is up but not associated with essid, thou it's properly set in /etc/network/interfaces and seen by iwlist scan
[14:14] <ActionParsnip1> klaas2: ive not use NBR personally, i'd just use a lighter DE
[14:14] <bazhang> fakeer, will you be making a separate /home partition and are you familiar with the other partitions you need to set up
[14:14] <gburton> hi
[14:14] <MK13> klaa2, i mean the sound when the login screen is ready
[14:15] <[TK]D-Fender> Hello all.  I'm new to the thought of 64 bit system really, and was wondering what the impact would be of running 62 vs 32 on something like a Core2Duo w/ only 2gig ram.  I wouldn't need the 64 bit for RAM requirements... it there any reason to go 64 just yet?  Last I heard there wre still a alrger volume of software that wasn't built to compile for it yet...
[14:15] <ActionParsnip1> xukun: i'd suggest reinstalling grub
[14:15] <gburton> im trying to make a copy of a 12gb file (a virtualbox .vdi file) and basically everything grinds to a halt while this is being done... is there a way to copy a huge file slowly, like throttling?
[14:15] <AL__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/305087/
[14:15] <apps> Help plz. I went to system>>users and groups and change my account. Now i dont know the root password. BUT i didnt specify it in the beginning so how do i get it back??
[14:15] <gburton> im using cp oldfile nefilename currently
[14:15] <jonte> shall i install grub when i am dual boot
[14:16] <patdk-lap> [TK]D-Fender, I would only go 64bit if you plan to upgrade to or past 4g ram, or use harddrives >2tb
[14:16] <klaas2> MK13: system -> administration -> login?
[14:16] <gburton> apps: it would be the first user you created (why are added to sudoers)
[14:16] <MK13> klaas2, has no options for sound :(
[14:16] <Younder> why do my mpeg's not play?
[14:16] <klaas2> ActionParsnip1: I guess ill have to try it and see how bad it is ;). thanks for your help
[14:16] <cwill747> MK13: yeah, that's where it used to be. i'm looking around again
[14:16] <n8tuser> gburton-> thats is common, your bus can only accomodate so much, plus your hd controller may only be one controller
[14:16] <fakeer> bazhang: no i always put entire ubuntu on one partition (on disk it's just after Vista (0) i.e. on (1) ) and everytihg /home etc are inside that partition..atleast i don't create anything ever myself..got 2GB ram so no swap too..though i put it later from inside Ubuntu wehre ever want...
[14:16] <da65> just installed 9.10, thanks, not bad :)
[14:16] <MK13> cwill747, yea i had it done on 9.04 but it vanished :O
[14:17] <gburton> n8tuser: right, but surely you can throttle the copy?
[14:17] <jayce> QUESTION - Anybody have Karmic installed with drives auto-mounting in fstab with any issues?
[14:17] <apps> true but i dont know the root password. i didnt make one.
[14:17] <da65> emapthy is a bit of a pidgin rip off though lol
[14:17] <bazhang> fakeer, how big a partition overall
[14:17] <ergy> Younder : ubuntu-restricted-extras was installed?
[14:17] <MarcoPau> I even tried iwconfig wlan0 essid "NETGEAR" manually but that doesn't have any effect. module is loaded and everything seems ok, but essid is not associated...
[14:17] <klaas2> MK13: In that case i dont know, i'm not on ubuntu no so I cant check. Good luck with finding the solution!
[14:17] <gburton> apps: there isnt one, its the password to your first account. unless thats what you forgot.
[14:17] <n8tuser> gburton-> i doubt it, perhaps some tricks with hdparm, but i would not do it for just that single copy
[14:17] <fakeer> bazhang: it's  a 35 GB
[14:17] <apps> nope i tried it but i says authentication failure
[14:17] <fakeer> partition
[14:18] <[TK]D-Fender> patdk-lap: OK, this may be an issue for servers for me before too long.. thanks for the heads up
[14:18] <Younder> Ok installing 9.10
[14:18] <gburton> n8tuser: i dont want to discuss the particulars but "other oses" are capable of multitasking hdd access...
[14:18] <bazhang> fakeer, ok. good idea to create swap though
[14:18] <blue-pearl> apps: by default u dont make a root password in ubuntu... u use sudo command
[14:18] <da65> ooo, restricted drivers available, nice
[14:18] <patdk-lap> [TK]D-Fender, I run x64 on all my of systems, since 2 years ago
[14:19] <l3> Hi all: ubuntu 9.10 upgrade broke my grub bootloader - can i get some advice on how to fix my bootloader?
[14:19] <da65> does skype run on 64 now?
[14:19] <Younder> 45 minutes on my system
[14:19] <apps> but its asking for "password for root" and when i put in my normal password it says authentication failure
[14:19] <n8tuser> gburton-> you common denominator is your bus to the controller and the controllers ability to do dma
[14:19] <jbicha> why does help.ubuntu.com not have the help pages for Karmic yet?
[14:19] <MK13> klaas2, no problem and thanks for the help
[14:19] <ActionParsnip1> jbicha: because its super new
[14:19] <snellcode> da65: yes, most stuff runs on 64, and also 32 can usually run on 64
[14:19] <[TK]D-Fender> patdk-lap: Will keep this in mind... thanks again.
[14:19] <fakeer> bazhang: yeah right..but never done it .. and i always do it after installing ubuntu..isn't that good..because at the time of installation i may have to create another partition for that which i don't want to do
[14:19] <da65> plus, who needs help?  Works perfect :)
[14:20] <cwill747> MK13: all i can find is that you can't do it.
[14:20] <Kartagis> !grub | l3
[14:20] <gburton> n8tuser: so what are "other oses" doing that linux is not?
[14:20] <san2345> how to create lan conection in u
[14:20] <cwill747> MK13: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm/+bug/445747
[14:20] <jayce> QUESTION - Anybody have Karmic installed with drives auto-mounting in fstab with any issues?
[14:20] <tompaw> Hello.
[14:20] <tompaw> Is this a good place to ask psubuntu questions?
[14:20] <fakeer> bazhang: so..what do you say?? now u know what i want and know...shall i start ?? or i should rather download LiveCD .. i have a 10kbps download speed... :(
[14:20] <beachdaze> jayce, having some issues yes
[14:20] <ActionParsnip1> san2345: connect LAN cable, DHCP will complete and give you a connection, job done
[14:20] <n8tuser> gburton-> you are not paying attention much to what i said, at low level, it doesnt really matter if the common denominator is your bus limitations and dma capabilities
[14:20] <jayce> beachdaze - your drives wont auto mount with fstab? Do you get errors?
[14:21] <san2345> how to set static ip adress?
[14:21] <cwill747> MK13: you can remove all ubuntu sounds
[14:21] <san2345> for lan
[14:21] <da65> during installed hated the windows splash background copy lol
[14:21] <MK13> cwill747, how to i disable all the sounds?
[14:21] <cwill747> MK13: if you just don't want them. sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-sounds
[14:21] <da65> pull speaker cables out
[14:21] <n8tuser> san2345-> use of ifconfig or ip  command
[14:21] <PaperBug> hi can someone please help me?  I dont know how to run ISPmanager.  I installed it based on my vps instructions.
[14:21] <vubuntor9930> 9.10 Karmic have someproblem
[14:21] <beachdaze> jayce, everything (remote)  mounted as root, no user access, also get a messge on boot that error w/fstab
[14:22] <bazhang> fakeer, it is really intuitive; sounds with your minimal partitioning that it wont be much of an issue--be sure to back up all important data (of course) beforehand though
[14:22] <MK13> cwill747, ouch not willing to do that :(
[14:22] <jayce> beachdaze - Im trying to mount 3 backup drives in fstab. None of th em work. Its so frustrating its unreal since it worked since the beginning of time with other ubuntu versions.
[14:22] <cwill747> MK13: haha i thought so. that's the only thing i've found. same problem - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8159175#post8159175
[14:22] <beachdaze> jayce, exactly same entries in fstab in 9.04 worked fin here too
[14:22] <da65> cwill, they usb?
[14:23] <AL__> ttp://paste.ubuntu.com/305092/
[14:23] <dreambox> hello friends. I am planning on installing Ubuntu this weekend, I have a long fbsd experience so i guess I won't face serious issues, but I'd like to know if there's someone that has installed it on a TOSHIBA SATELLITE A300 (I am not sure about the short model)
[14:23] <vadviktor1> san2345: and example http://paste.ubuntu.com/305093/
[14:23] <fatbrain> Hi, what would be a good way to mount cue/bin cd-images in Ubuntu?
[14:23] <vubuntor9930> Question: When I close my Lidscreen on my laptop,Ubuntu 9.10 freeze,what's wrong?
[14:23] <cwill747> da65: what do you mean?
[14:23] <mychew> hmm..now my D-link Dwa-140 break =(
[14:23] <san2345> im on windows now
[14:23] <n8tuser> jayce-> how are you mounting those 3 drives? manually? or at least can you try a manual mount to test before using fstab?
[14:23] <da65> how they connected?
[14:23] <jayce> beachdaze - I guess this is where we play the waiting game and wait for an update.
[14:23] <vadviktor1> san2345: well this is an Ubuntu channel :)
[14:23] <san2345> i cant connect net on ubuntu
[14:23] <san2345> ya
[14:23] <MK13> cwill747, i could also probably rename the sound file right?
[14:23] <fakeer> bazhang: yeah backedup /home and as i had cleaned up after package installs i could do AptOnCD .. so it's fine I guess..and besides everything was on Dropbox too (almost ) :)
[14:23] <san2345> i know
[14:23] <san2345> i use ubuntu
[14:23] <jayce> n8tuser - If I remember correctly I can mount them manually
[14:23] <n8tuser> vubuntor9930-> it works on my ibm t42 thinkpad, but im using 8.10
[14:23] <san2345> its on ubuntu im not able to set
[14:23] <jayce> n8tuser - but not to be a jerk, I cant have that. I need the fstab thing.
[14:23] <ergy> !who | san2345
[14:24] <da65> geez fglrx driver seems big
[14:24] <cwill747> MK13: oh. good point. that would probably work. it miight give you an error though
[14:24] <ActionParsnip1> san2345: do you get DHCP from your connection device?
[14:24] <n8tuser> jayce-> try it now again manually, and then move forward to fstab once you got it going
[14:24] <san2345> ya
[14:24] <edgy> hi, what's the command to rsync the my beta dvd iso to the latest karmic? I keep getting errors
[14:24] <ActionParsnip1> san2345: is it wired or wireless?
[14:24] <vadviktor1> san2345: so that's what i have sent you, ubuntu setup for static ip
[14:24] <jayce> n8tuser - it does NOT work with fstab. It doesnt. Ive tried.
[14:24] <fakeer> bazhang: any issues installing GRUB?? I remeber I check a box while using LiveCD....any instructions you wanna give??
[14:24] <san2345> well im using xchat anyshortcut to paste usr nick
[14:24] <ActionParsnip1> san2345: tab complete my nick at the start of lines if they are addressed to me
[14:24] <san2345> its wired lan
[14:24] <del-> hmm
[14:25] <n8tuser> jayce-> once more, try not with manual mount.. perhaps you can show me your exact command
[14:25] <fakeer> bazhang: it's strange I couldn't find any tutorial or screenshots for Alternate CD... you know any?
[14:25] <beachdaze> n8tuser, same basic issue as jayce, when mounting thru fstab nas drives are mounted as root, not user as in 9.04?
[14:25] <jayce> n8tuser - try not with manual mount?
[14:25] <ActionParsnip1> san2345: ok so can you ping your routers internal IP?
[14:25] <n8tuser> beachdaze-> depends on the options of mount
[14:25] <bazhang> fakeer, for karmic? not really, though others online should be quite similar
[14:25] <san2345> well thats not my issue
[14:25] <san2345> wen i try to set it static the save tab is greyed
[14:25] <n8tuser> jayce-> i meant use the mount command to mount i manually.. have you tried it yet?
[14:26] <fakeer> bazhang: no , i couldn't find one for even jaunty
[14:26] <bazhang> san2345, please prepend the person's nick that you are addressing
[14:26] <san2345> sorry
[14:26] <MK13> cwill747, any clue where it is located?
[14:26] <vadviktor1> san2345: on xchat, start typing then tab the name out, like in the terminal
[14:26] <ActionParsnip1> san2345: well whats your issue
[14:26] <beachdaze> n8tuser, same as it was in 9.04,  "//<IP of host>/path/to/share /home/<user>/folder cifs auto 0 0"
[14:27] <mikebeecham> sorry to be a pain, but I am finding more and more issues with Karmic...I've just discovered that Ubuntu no longer recognises that I have an Audigy 4 sound card, and I have to use some generic internal driver.  What happens now though is when my boys play supertux, the sound in intrermittent with crackling and noise??
[14:27] <beachdaze> n8tuser, that line worked fine in 9.04
[14:27] <david__> hi does any one know how to convert flv to wmv9 format please
[14:27] <jayce> beachdaze, n8tuser - I dont even do THAT much in fstab. I simply put the UUID and the path I want it to mount. n8tuser just hits me with errors....
[14:28] <n8tuser> beachdaze-> may i suggest doing a man mount, or man fstab and look for the user vs users option i believe
[14:28] <san2345> ActionParsnip1, actualy i mainly use xp i hav a lan but recently i installed ubuntu to just try it out but in ubuntu ipv4 cant b change and i hav to change it
[14:28] <ActionParsnip1> san2345: try running the app using gksudo
[14:28] <cwill747> MK13: /usr/share/sounds/ubuntu/stereo
[14:28] <Wrb> hi
[14:28] <c3l_> is it possible to have different wallpapers on different monitors? (running dual monitor setup)
[14:28] <Wrb> can somebody help me with font problems in Firefox?
[14:29] <Younder> what font problems?
[14:29] <beachdaze> n8tuser, did that already, when adding the users to the fstab, it allows browsing but no writing
[14:29] <n8tuser> jayce-> thats the point of i want you to try this manually so you can see the errors,  perhaps your uuid is wrong,  use  sudo blkid to find it
[14:29] <ActionParsnip1> san2345: or you can use /etc/network/interfaces to define the addressing
[14:29] <san2345> i want to change my ipv4 but as i keep manual and change it the Apply options dissapears
[14:29] <jayce> n8tuser - I did :)
[14:29] <Dezent> Anyone know how to edit the grub menu in 9.10? /boot/grub/menu.lst dosn't work
[14:29] <leaf-sheep> c3l_: GIMP! Make those wallpapers into one gigantic file!
[14:29] <MK13> cwill747, the system ready i am guessing?
[14:29] <Wrb> I can't get the fonts to change...I set default to Times New Roman but it doesn't look any different
[14:29] <jayce> n8tuser - I can assure you, my UUID is perfect. I've looked at it a thousand times.
[14:29] <Wrb> I basically want it to look like does in windows haha
[14:29] <leaf-sheep> !grub2 | Dezent
[14:29] <n8tuser> beachdaze-> look for more options, i cant remember all of them, look in particular regaring ability to read/write for the users
[14:29] <ActionParsnip1> Dezent: /boot/grub/grub.cfg  but it will get changed after kernel installs
[14:30] <c3l_> leaf-sheep, time consuming! why cant it work like in KDE?
[14:30] <Dezent> Thanks!!
[14:30] <jayce> n8tuser - I dont get any errors until Im in ubuntu. Then when I select places and I click on the hard drive that fstab auto-mounted, it gives me an error that only root can do that.
[14:30] <c3l_> leaf-sheep, well what about different wallpapers on different desktops?
[14:30] <leejongwook> what's new with 9.10 ?
[14:30] <beachdaze> n8tuser, I'll go back and re-read, but I find it strange that 9.10 broke this...thanks for the help!
[14:30] <ActionParsnip1> Dezent: you will need to edit config scripts and files for grub2 to be permanently changed
[14:30] <Younder> This would be easier if not for old Pici
[14:30] <Dezent> ActionParsnip1: Thanks!!!
[14:30] <Pici> Younder: I'll be done soon
[14:30] <leejongwook> :)
[14:30] <leejongwook> abc
[14:30] <HiThereC> Hi, booted the 64-bit Live CD of 9.10 (Desktop) and it's asking me to login, tried user ubuntu with blank password (and ubuntu as password) and nothing works
[14:30] <HiThereC> How do I get in? :(
[14:30] <leaf-sheep> c3l_: Well, if you don't -- It'll stretch out. This is only a suggestion but you're welcome to find another solution. :)
[14:30] <ActionParsnip1> !grub2 | Dezent
[14:30] <leejongwook> ddd
[14:31] <ubuntistas> how can i install mediubuntu
[14:31] <cwill747> MK13: yeah. that's what it sounds like
[14:31] <ubuntistas> how can i install mediubuntu?
[14:31] <ActionParsnip1> HiThereC: restart the x server and just wait, it will auto login
[14:31] <HiThereC> How do I restart the X server?
[14:31] <ActionParsnip1> !medibuntu | ubuntistas
[14:31] <TheInfinity> !medibuntu
[14:31] <ActionParsnip1> HiThereC: alt + print screen + k
[14:31] <HiThereC> OKay thanks
[14:31] <Xserver> hi everyone
[14:31] <c3l_> leaf-sheep, okay =) well ill try to find a proper solution ;) if KDE can, GNOME should be able to do it too
[14:31] <ZykoticK9> ubuntistas, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[14:31] <leejongwook> freaking annoying iggy people bothering this channel
[14:31] <HiThereC> will try 1min
[14:32] <n8tuser> jayce-> okay i take your word for it, i dont use 9.10 yet, but if you can also find out if the user is using fuse.. i dont the intimate details til i have to google for it
[14:32] <Xserver> anyone please suggest me a better way to remote desktop my ubuntu server
[14:32] <DJones> leejongwook: Details of whats new in 9.10 are listed at http://www.ubuntu.com/news/ubuntu-910
[14:32] <ActionParsnip1> Xserver: ssh + x forwarding
[14:32] <n8tuser> Xserver-> what do you meant by a better way? ssh is common
[14:32] <teolicy> Hi. I can not record sound in 9.10 (neither Skype nor in Sound Recorder). I checked the volume preferences, they seem fine. How else should I diagnose this?
[14:32] <Younder> Xserver, better than what
[14:32] <Xserver> ssh for remote desktop or CLI ?
[14:32] <leaf-sheep> HiThereC: Run this in the TTY1 will work too --> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[14:32] <ActionParsnip1> Xserver: both, you can run the x based apps using remote X server
[14:32] <HiThereC> couldnt get a tty
[14:33] <cobalt_> expressfr
[14:33] <n8tuser> Xserver-> ahh, use xvnc
[14:33] <Scuttle> hm...I seem to have lost the sound in Ubuntu... just installed 9.10, and now when I start X, there is no audio-device present
[14:33] <Xserver> Younder : Better than CLI .. as i need to run WINE on ubuntu server
[14:33] <ActionParsnip1> Xserver: why do you need the full desktop?
[14:33] <Scuttle> is there a way to "reinstall" the soundcard?
[14:33] <unimatrix> is it better to configure encryption during installation or to configure truecrypt later?
[14:33] <HiThereC> no getty was running or something, just saw some "Authentication Failure" messages and no login prompt or shell
[14:33] <xdfm> Xserver, openvnc
[14:33] <Younder> Your server has bee set up for remote access using SSH
[14:33] <Xserver> Younder : yes
[14:33] <leaf-sheep> unimatrix: cryptsetup and Truecrypt is not the same thing.
[14:33] <Xserver> but wine doesn't work without Desktop
[14:33] <EdwardIII> hey, trying this on ubuntu (sudo -u www-data apache2 -t -D DUMP_MODULES) and getting an error: apache2: bad user name ${APACHE_RUN_USER}
[14:33] <Xserver> so need to install gnome / kde
[14:33] <ActionParsnip1> Xserver: it will if you use a remote x server
[14:34] <Daedauls-Sax> hello i have a question, i have a ati x1300, which with the current driver offered from ubuntu is quite literally not functional. always crashes, didn't before 9.04. anyways, i now have a nvidia 6200, and i couldn't find any problems online with this card and 9.04-9.10, but have you heard of any problems here? I don't want to switch graphics cards and lose graphics power just for a card that's also gonna have linux probs
[14:34] <[manas]> i got internal hardisk whit ntfs particion so everytime i restart my machine i need to mount it is it any change i can avoid it???????
[14:34] <MK13> cwill747, i added the notification applet then relogged in and the network icon is back, thanks
[14:34] <unimatrix> leaf-sheep: which one is better?
[14:34] <grawity> [manas]: /etc/fstab
[14:34] <fakeer> bazhang: thank you...i think i will install now..hope i don not ruin my other partitons :) .. still a tutorial would instill some confidence in me :)
[14:34] <ActionParsnip1> Xserver: if you are using a linux client you can run: ssh -X user@server
[14:34] <san2345> ActionParsnip1, i am very new to linux also to irc
[14:34] <Xserver> ActionParsnip1 : Sorry ... but i am on Windows
[14:34] <ActionParsnip1> Xserver: you can then launch X based apps and they will appear on the client system but be running on the server
[14:35] <leaf-sheep> unimatrix: It depends on one's preferences. My belief is that cryptsetup is nice/better because that's something native in linux.
[14:35] <ActionParsnip1> Xserver: then you can install and run xming
[14:35] <da65> !chat
[14:35] <ActionParsnip1> Xserver: you can then use: putty -X user@server
[14:35] <simmerz> Hi. I've upgraded a server domU (using Xen) to karmic, but it refuses to boot, saying: mountall:/proc: unable to mount: Device or resource busy
[14:35] <bazhang> fakeer, have been looking but have not found (ie with screenshots); I will be around if you need assistance at various points in the process though
[14:35] <[manas]> grawity, /etc/fstab command not found
[14:35] <da65> is there a ubuntu chat/gripe area?
[14:35] <grawity> [manas]: It's a file to edit, not a command.
[14:36] <Overflow> [manas], gedit /etc/fstab
[14:36] <san2345> so mwen u try to set manually wat do u get?
[14:36] <[manas]> grawity, i can u tell my what i need to edit cos i got no clue
[14:36] <Xserver> ActionParsnip1 : regardless of Desktop not available on Ubutnu ?
[14:36] <ActionParsnip1> san2345: there is a guide here, you can define addresses in the interfaces file: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/setting-up-an-network-interfaces-file/
[14:36] <inthevidual> Hi, a friend of mine had a failure after upgrading to karmic
[14:36] <boscop> how can I change the permission of files in the trash so that they can be deleted??
[14:36] <grawity> [manas]: First, run "sudo blkid" and find out the partition's /dev name
[14:36] <inthevidual> mountall won't run
[14:36] <grawity> [manas]: Or even better, the UUID.
[14:36] <Younder> ActionParsnip1, What windows program is that you wish to run remotely, and how did you get yourself in this precarious situation?
[14:36] <inthevidual> and when dropping to recovery shell, it asks for a password
[14:36] <da65> boscop: why put them there?
[14:36] <boscop> will it mess up things to do it manually?
[14:36] <ActionParsnip1> Xserver: totally, as long as the app you need is installed with its deps then you can run them in this style
[14:36] <grawity> boscop: ~/.local/share/Trash/
[14:36] <inthevidual> but, is there any kind of root/recovery shell password in ubuntu?
[14:37] <grawity> boscop: chown, chmod, or - if you prefer - rm -rf.
[14:37] <grawity> inthevidual: If you had set a root password, use that.
[14:37] <boscop> grawity: I know, but there are special info files in Trash/info
[14:37] <Boohbah> inthevidual: you may boot single user mode by selecting the "Recovery mode" kernel at the grub menu
[14:37] <Daedauls-Sax> i have a ati x1300 that crashes with ubuntu's 8.10 and higher, works perfect with 8.04. i have a nvidia 6200, not nearly as good, but im willing to take the hit if i am not gonna have the saem problem with ubuntu. i don't want to have to buy new hardware every 2 years just to have ubuntu, might as well buy windows then.... anyone else have this problem?
[14:37] <da65> inthevidual: yeah, reinstall
[14:37] <grawity> boscop: Eh, just nuke the entire thing and it'll be okay.
[14:37] <fakeer> bazhang: i may get in touch with you from a friend's computer in case of a trouble...many thanks..leaving now..
[14:37] <grawity> inthevidual: If you haven't -- then it should not ask.
[14:37] <Younder> inthevidual, no, you would need a fedora style startup for that
[14:37] <grawity> inthevidual: However, there are ways to bypass it...
[14:37] <boscop> grawity: should I also delete the info files?
[14:37] <gianluigisk8> hello.....if i install ubuntu 9.10 after windows 7 ....in the grub i can see  windows?
[14:37] <da65> does ubuntu have a chat area plz
[14:37] <[manas]> grawity, /dev/sda5: UUID="460063AD0063A2A3" LABEL="WD320" TYPE="ntfs"
[14:37] <san2345> ActionParsnip1, plzz help me out
[14:37] <Pici> da65: #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:37] <da65> ty
[14:37] <Xserver> ActionParsnip1 : can i pm you ? i can't see anything in this msg floods ...
[14:38] <grawity> [manas]: Okay. Now where do you want to mount it? /media/somewhere or such.
[14:38] <inthevidual> Boohbah: the problem is that that doesn't work either, the single user mode. it still asks for a root password even though i never set one
[14:38] <ActionParsnip1> Younder: i'm showing how a full desktop isnt needed and you can use x forwarding
[14:38] <Marchingknight11> hey I just installed ubuntu 9.10 and i cant get my wireless to work
[14:38] <ActionParsnip1> Xserver: sure
[14:38] <ZykoticK9> Daedauls-Sax, i don't know about the 6200 specifically, but generally moving from ATI to Nvidia will NOT be a performace hit - it's gonna work a lot better.  best of luck.
[14:38] <grawity> inthevidual: 'Recovery mode' is exactly the same as "single user"...
[14:38] <inthevidual> I used remastersys yo make the original install cd, could that have had any effect?
[14:38] <Marchingknight11> it looks like the driver isnt installed
[14:38] <san2345> ActionParsnip1, wen i try to set ip manually they apply option greys out
[14:38] <ActionParsnip1> san2345: the guide I gave is as clear as I can make it
[14:38] <Younder> inthevidual, set runlevel 2 to text login single user etc
[14:38] <Marchingknight11> can anyone help
[14:38] <grawity> inthevidual: You can try appending this instead: init=/bin/bash
[14:38] <Xserver> SELECT FROM #ubuntu where UserID = "ActionParsnip1" <<<<------------ Hope this would have worked ...
[14:38] <[manas]> grawity, i just want it to be allway when i restart my machine
[14:38] <san2345> ActionParsnip1,  sorry i missed the mssg
[14:38] <inthevidual> grawity: I know, but it still asks me for a root password when dropping to recovery shell
[14:38] <ActionParsnip1> san2345: use the /etc/network/interfaces file to define the IP
[14:39] <crypto_> no sound i upgraded to ubuntu 9.10
[14:39] <HiThereC> Ubuntu is now stuck on the pulsing ubuntu logo on startup, CD drive has stopped and its doing  nothing... or is it?
[14:39] <grawity> [manas]: You already said that three tiems. Now answer the question.
[14:39] <HiThereC> now theres two ubuntu logos
[14:39] <crypto_> synaptics pointing not working
[14:39] <da65> empathy is not very good is it
[14:39] <WilliamC> Are there any benefits to rebuilding the Kernel?
[14:39] <crypto_> lots of problems
[14:39] <grawity> inthevidual: The init= one has always worked for me.
[14:39] <crypto_> help!!
[14:39] <G_A_C> hey guys, I'm having trouble with the ubuntu keyserver...what's the hostname for the other server that "mirrors" it? I can't remember
[14:39] <Younder> Xserver, that is SQL
[14:39] <grawity> G_A_C: pool.sks-keyservers.net
[14:39] <da65> cant even join another room
[14:39] <san2345> ActionParsnip1, i am pretty noob so i wont know what entry to modify
[14:39] <Marchingknight11> 9.10 wireless not working
[14:39] <[manas]> grawity, media should be fine
[14:39] <Daedauls-Sax> zykoticK9: well, actually the x1300 blows the doors off the nvidia card i have in every way, faster ram, more ram, faster clock speeds, better shaders, more pipeelines, all around whoops the nvidia
[14:39] <ZykoticK9> WilliamC, not unless you have a VERY compelling reason to do so.
[14:39] <G_A_C> thanks grawity
[14:39] <[manas]> grawity, just like normal hhd
[14:40] <WilliamC> ZykoticK9, last time I tried it, it took hours and it failed to boot afterward.
[14:40] <grawity> [manas]: Can you tell the exact path? /media/windows, or /media/media, or /media/WD320, or...
[14:40] <boscop> grawity: can I just delete the entire Trash folder?
[14:40] <grawity> boscop: Yes.
[14:40] <magr> anyone who can help me acces the usb stick in the terminal, what command do i have to write??
[14:40] <pax-> Any update on this issue? I just run update manager and updated the client but still get the error, x64 9.10 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8191856
[14:40] <ZykoticK9> Daedauls-Sax, if i had a Ferrari without a steering wheel would i be able to beat my Civic that does have a steering wheel?
[14:40] <Marchingknight11> i just installed 9.10 and my wireless doesnt work
[14:40] <teolicy> How is audio recording done in vanilla 9.10? I want to troubleshoot, and would like to save some reading by reading just about the right components. Specifically, how do kernel drivers, alsa, pulseaudio and maybe others interact?
[14:40] <WilliamC> ZykoticK9, only if it has no bends.
[14:40] <Younder> boscop, you might want to limit yourself to the content
[14:40] <ZykoticK9> WilliamC, i'm recommending you DON'T recompile kernel.
[14:40] <Qubes> magr : cd /media
[14:41] <WilliamC> ZykoticK9, I know, I don't plan to.
[14:41] <[manas]> grawity, /media/WD320
[14:41] <Marchingknight11> can anyone help me get my wireless working
[14:41] <crypto_> ubuntu 9.10 sucks
[14:41] <san2345> :)k
[14:41] <crypto_> no hardware support
[14:41] <san2345> lol hahaha crypto lol
[14:41] <Overflow> crypto_, yea
[14:41] <magr> qubes: yeah but cd /media is not a problem, its when i type cd /disk-1 in /media its doesnt work...
[14:41] <grawity> [manas]: Okay, now can you type 'id' and paste the output?
[14:41] <crypto_> my synaptics pointing device not working
[14:41] <Younder> NO Hardware support crypto
[14:41] <crypto_> no sound
[14:41] <Daedauls-Sax> ZykoticK9: Lol, in a drag race yes, but i get your point. having better hardware that doesn't work right because of the drivers given by ubuntu is not as good as a card that runs well because of drivers that run perfect in ubuntu
[14:41] <ajunior> I don't problem with 9.10. It's better for me.
[14:42] <Younder> that sounds insane
[14:42] <[manas]> uid=1000(zion) gid=1000(zion) groups=4(adm),20(dialout),24(cdrom),46(plugdev),106(lpadmin),121(admin),122(sambashare),1000(zion)
[14:42] <boscop> Younder, grawity: I have read and write permissions on the two subfolders "files" and "info", but I somehow can't delete them, as if I didn'T have the privileges
[14:42] <Kottisen> How do I add someone to the "sudoers file"?
[14:42] <san2345> plzz help some1
[14:42] <Marchingknight11> can anyone help me with my wireless
[14:42] <crypto_> i will resterat again
[14:42] <[manas]> grawity, uid=1000(zion) gid=1000(zion) groups=4(adm),20(dialout),24(cdrom),46(plugdev),106(lpadmin),121(admin),122(sambashare),1000(zion)
[14:42] <leaf-sheep> crypto_: It is just you. You're assuming Ubuntu sucks because it does not work for you.
[14:42] <san2345> 4
[14:42] <WilliamC> Who do I complain to about the default theme?
[14:42] <ZykoticK9> Daedauls-Sax, exactly -- I have used Nvidia under linux for a long time -- WAY better then ATI
[14:42] <chazco> Hi... does anyone know what happened to totem-xine in karmic? Totem-gstreamer still can't handle DVB or DVD...
[14:42] <Younder> boscop, do a 'sudo su' and try again
[14:42] <MK13> what is the replacement for /boot/grub/menu.lst in 9.10?
[14:42] <Kottisen> How do I add someone to the "sudoers file"?
[14:43] <grawity> Kottisen: 'sudo visudo'
[14:43] <san2345> hey some1 plzz help m mee  set up my lan ipv4 adres manualy
[14:43] <grawity> Kottisen: Or, better, 'sudo adduser someone admin'
[14:43] <joaopinto> WilliamC, you don't complain, you do suggestions, a good place would be to report a bug on launchpad, or use brainstorm to suggest the theme change
[14:43] <sergeykish> Hello, tutorial step require download files from http://swiss.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=7773647&postcount=13, but forum response with "SergeyKish, you do not have permission to access this page" why and how can I get files?
[14:43] <SMiTTY> Kottisen,   sudo visudo
[14:43] <hdon> hi all. how do i make the VM in sun-java6-jre the default java vm?
[14:43] <Kottisen> grawity: Okey, thanks.
[14:43] <slurp> i have a problem with wireless card
[14:43] <WilliamC> joaopinto, I just don't like how brown it is.
[14:43] <leejongwook> DJones, thanks :)
[14:43] <nanotube> !sudo | Kottisen
[14:43] <slurp> it's not work
[14:43] <grawity> [manas]: Thanks. I've put the instructions at http://sprunge.us/RCSN
[14:43] <Marchingknight11> can someone help me with wireless
[14:43] <sam_> chazco, totem doesn't have xine support anymore. you should use dragon player or something else on klde
[14:43] <Daedauls-Sax> does anyone know if ubuntu's open source driver is being worked on for the x1300? because the x1300 with the currently used ubuntu driver is horrible, ultra crashy, and doesn't do that at all on my xp partition, which is actually where i am hailing you from right now
[14:43] <slurp> can you help me?
[14:43] <joaopinto> WilliamC, that is a personal problem nothing we can help you with :)
[14:43] <ActionParsnip1> san2345: thats why i gave the link
[14:43] <Marchingknight11> slurp: i have the same problem
[14:43] <slurp> hi
[14:44] <chazco> sam_ - Ah, thats bad news. Thanks anyway.
[14:44] <WilliamC> Marchingknight11, you probably need to install a driver or something
[14:44] <postcard> hi
[14:44] <Marchingknight11> williamc: how do i do that
[14:44] <[manas]> grawity, let me try
[14:44] <Younder> boscop, you hear me?
[14:44] <WilliamC> I don't know, I never had the problem.
[14:44] <Daedauls-Sax> well thanx for the info ZykoticK9.
[14:44] <boscop> Younder: yes
[14:44] <Marchingknight11> great, thanks
[14:44] <slurp> if i write lspcmcia
[14:44] <slurp> , the response is 0000000
[14:44] <Marchingknight11> can anyone actually help me
[14:44] <ZykoticK9> Daedauls-Sax, good luck man!
[14:44] <joaopinto> WilliamC, please do not provide random useless replies, that does not help
[14:44] <exiton> I have a ATI Radeon Mobility 7500 and problems with my graphics driver. What can i do? do i have to make a xorg.conf?
[14:44] <Daedauls-Sax> ty'
[14:44] <Daedauls-Sax> peace, out! (that was pretty lame sorry)
[14:44] <sam_> hi, i've mysql-server installed and don't want it to start every time i start my system. how can i disable it so that it only starts when i want it?
[14:45] <WilliamC> joaopinto, I'm pretty sure that it means that it has no driver, I could be wrong.
[14:45] <Younder> boscop, did it work?
[14:45] <grawity> [manas]: Oh, one more thing I forgot. Use "gksudo gedit /etc/fstab" to edit that file.
[14:45] <ptn107> Marchingknight11: what kind of wireless device/card do you have
[14:45] <netrat> sam_, go into /etc/rc2.d and find S??mysql, rename it to K??mysql
[14:45] <ZykoticK9> sam_, System / Admin / Services - uncheck it
[14:45] <SurfyDudee> hello
[14:45] <Marchingknight11> ptn107: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g (rev 01)
[14:45] <Younder> boscop, do a 'sudo su' and try again
[14:45] <m1k3y_> hey everyone
[14:45] <joaopinto> WilliamC, drivers are built-in the system except for a very rare cases, for closed driver sources, you have no idea if his card is supported or if he just missing some configuration
[14:46] <Younder> to remove acess restricted files
[14:46] <SurfyDudee> i found the driver for my usb wifi dongle....but its rpm.....any ideas? i cant install alien
[14:46] <da651> 9.10 is great, empathy sucks, get rid of it :)
[14:46] <WilliamC> joaopinto, oh, so Linux no longer has that lack of drivers issue?
[14:46] <grawity> SurfyDudee: Why not?
[14:46] <joaopinto> SurfyDudee, installing a driver from RPM even after using alien will not work and may break your system
[14:46] <Marchingknight11> ptn107: when i installed the driver was not found and it doesnt show up under hardware drivers
[14:46] <boscop> Younder: yes, thanks
[14:47] <ajunior> where I turn on my 3g connection?
[14:47] <leejongwook> da651, what made you think great  ?
[14:47] <joaopinto> WilliamC, linux has evolved a lot on hardware support on the last years, that does not mean every hw is supported
[14:47] <da651> leejong: all works here :)
[14:47] <ptn107> Marchingknight11: so you've done a       sudo apt-get update     and nothing shows up under System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers?
[14:47] <leejongwook> wish i could see 9.10
[14:47] <sam_> netrat, thanks. now i can start it with 'sudo service mysql start' i guess?
[14:47] <WilliamC> joaopinto, first few years I used Linux, most hardware didn't work, or required someone reverse-engineering the drivers.
[14:47] <WilliamC> I remember when WinModems were the bane.
[14:47] <Marchingknight11> ptn107: i havent done a sudo yet let me try that
[14:47] <QaDeS> hiyas. what's the easiest way to set up bridged networking with qemu in ubuntu linux?
[14:48] <eniacpx> I did a dist-upgrade to Karmic about two weeks ago, is it worth doing a clean install? Will it be that different?
[14:48] <joaopinto> WilliamC, and the isse is not with linux, but with the vendors, drivers are vendors responsibility
[14:48] <da651> yeah that software moem was a pain
[14:48] <da651> modem even
[14:48] <Kottisen> thanks
[14:48] <Kottisen> i think it works now
[14:48] <m1k3y_> how does everyone like ubunutu 9.10???
[14:48] <joaopinto> eniacpx, if you don't have any problem, it doesn't worth a reinstall
[14:48] <Younder> boscop, Don't set a root passwd alla 'sudo passw root'
[14:48] <da651> 2 cans and string was faster :)
[14:48] <WilliamC> joaopinto, well, the issue is that they don't take us seriously enough, but it's getting better.
[14:48] <cellofellow> I'd like to install Ubuntu to a USB drive from an iMac and run it on that Mac, without using a CD. Is there some way to do that?
[14:48] <Younder> password
[14:48] <Marchingknight11> ptn107: i think that might have done it ill let you know
[14:48] <eniacpx> joaopinto: thanks
[14:49] <brahmana|web> Hi all,
[14:49] <simmerz> Hi. I've upgraded a server domU (using Xen) to karmic, but it refuses to boot, saying: mountall:/proc: unable to mount: Device or resource busy. any ideas?
[14:49] <ptn107> Marchingknight11: k
[14:49] <brahmana|web> Anyone knows what is the default connect timeout?
[14:50] <Younder> 1 minute?
[14:50] <QaDeS> are there any tools to set up virtual (tun/tap or whatever) networking?
[14:50] <QaDeS> preferably graphical tools ^^
[14:50] <cellofellow> cdimage.ubuntu.com seems hammered
[14:51] <m1k3y_> is anyone having issues with installing software from the ubuntu software center in 9.10?? almost every program i goto install says "not available in the current data" any ideas what that means?
[14:51] <simmerz> why would mountall fail on booting a karmic virtual guest?
[14:51] <SurfyDudee> how do i install an rpm driver under ubuntu then?
[14:51] <Younder> kermit?
[14:51] <Younder> SurfyDudee, you don't
[14:51] <leaf-sheep> Ubuntu Kermit!
[14:51] <WilliamC> joaopinto, the only issue I have is that since I installed 9.10 it's not auto-logging in.
[14:51] <Younder> rpm is fedora/redhat distribution
[14:52] <leaf-sheep> !alien | SurfyDudee
[14:52] <Younder> SurfyDudee, use the .deb files
[14:52] <boscop> I'm going to upgrade to karmic now, why does it want to uninstall so many packages?
[14:52] <SurfyDudee> there is no .deb file
[14:52] <SurfyDudee> just an rpm
[14:52] <Flynsarmy> How do i get the update manager appearing in my system tray when there are updates like in previous versions? (on karmic)
[14:53] <cellofellow> SurfyDudee: then install from source
[14:53] <joaopinto> SurfyDudee, then pleask ask the vendor to provide a deb, or check if there is a compatible driver already on the kernel
[14:53] <SMiTTY> so I just upgraded another desktop here in our lab to 9.10....it rebooted and is blinking at the login prompt. Didn't even try to bring up gui login....I've ssh'd in to apt-get update && apt-get upgrade .  Hopefully that fixes it.
[14:53] <Younder> SurfyDudee, the get the source distribution
[14:53] <SMiTTY> 2 other desktops went without issue btw
[14:53] <boscop> is karmic faster in execution than jaunty?
[14:53] <yasin> hi
[14:53] <joaopinto> boscop, nothing significant
[14:53] <MmikeNekud> What is wrong with http://packages.ubuntu.com ?
[14:53] <WilliamC> Boscop, I haven't noticed a difference.
[14:54] <boscop> joaopinto: too bad :(   why is ubuntu soo slow compared to win xp?
[14:54] <WilliamC> Boscop, it shouldn't be.
[14:54] <xaxaxax> axmm
[14:54] <yasin> ubuntu jaunty livecd error > "Frequency out of range". Not installing karmic.
[14:54] <gburton> BEEP BEEP BEEP flame war approaching
[14:54] <xaxaxax> good
[14:54] <gburton> boscop: dont start a flame war dude
[14:54] <joaopinto> boscop, because it provides more services & features
[14:54] <gburton> here it comes
[14:54] <ActionParsnip1> boscop: poor config
[14:54] <joaopinto> boscop, if you have a lower resources system you would better use xubuntu
[14:54] <xaxaxax> where r u from?
[14:54] <yasin> ubuntu karmic livecd error > "Frequency out of range". Not installing karmic.
[14:54] <dios_mio> my wired icon looks like the plug is pulled?
[14:54] <boscop> WilliamC: it is! in takes 96% cpu with opera playing 2 or 3 youtube videos
[14:54] <Tohuw> Stop feeding the trolls.
[14:55] <erUSUL> yasin: install karmic. is the latest stable
[14:55] <ActionParsnip1> boscop: not here, maybe your config sucks
[14:55] <da651> trolls usually have a point
[14:55] <joaopinto> ActionParsnip1, uh ? Ubuntu requirements are higher tan XP, that is not a configurtion issue, it's the regular system requirements
[14:55] <da651> I know, been there
[14:55] <cellofellow> joaopinto: actually, last time I checked Xubuntu uses more memory out of the box than ubuntu.
[14:55] <xaxaxax> americans ??
[14:55] <Flynsarmy> How do i get the update manager appearing in my system tray when there are updates like in previous versions? (on karmic)
[14:55] <cellofellow> Lubuntu is lighter but... so far haven't seen an official release of Lubuntu yet.
[14:55] <joaopinto> cellofellow, that is not expected, if it does you should file a bug report, since that is not how it's listed on the system requirements
[14:55] <ActionParsnip1> joaopinto: none of my systems will take XP, but will runlinux admirably
[14:56] <boscop> joaopinto: is 2 Ghz cpu lower resource? or 1GB ram? I had a computer with 256 MB ram and 1.5 Gzh before and it ran faster (on win xp)
[14:56] <dios_mio> my wired icon looks like the plug is pulled? how come?
[14:56] <Marchingknight11> ptn107: i got disconnected it said i had to reboot and after doing that it still isnt working
[14:56] <WilliamC> boscop, you're doing something wrong.
[14:56] <joaopinto> ActionParsnip1, so you are lucky, that doesn't change the facts, please read the Ubuntu system requirements if you have doubts
[14:56] <cellofellow> boscop: CPU is less important than RAM.
[14:56] <boscop> WilliamC: what is it?
[14:56] <nsahoo> hi .. after upgrading to karmic I can't find the Bitstream Vera fonts
[14:56] <boscop> cellofellow: but the cpu is often at max
[14:56] <WilliamC> Boscop, maybe it's Opera.
[14:56] <Marchingknight11> ptn107: it shows 2 broadcom drivers,  B43 wireless driver and STA wireless driver
[14:56] <gburton> boscop: that suggests something is horribly wrong...
[14:56] <joaopinto> boscop, ok, that is not a very low system, so you are likely to have some problem causing the performance degradation
[14:56] <ActionParsnip1> joaopinto: i dont doubt what some site says. I'm telling you what Ive actually seen and experienced
[14:56] <carresmd> when will they replace the damn keyserver, it constantly down!!
[14:56] <boscop> WilliamC: I even had to stop using firefox
[14:56] <cellofellow> boscop: anything greater than 800Mhz should do fine, and a 1/2GB RAM is just barely enough.
[14:56] <yasin> Please.ubuntu karmic livecd error > "Frequency out of range". Not installing karmic. Philips 107E
[14:56] <grawity> nsahoo: Do you have DejaVu fonts? (If I recall correctly, DejaVu ones are just extended Bitstream Vera.)
 I have the driver but its RPM.... and I can't use Alien cuz someone told me it will screw everything up
[14:57] <ptn107> Marchingknight11: you want the b43 one
[14:57] <Younder> SurfyDudee. I suppose you know the mantra. install in /usr/src do a tar azvf. a .configure and a make and a make install
[14:57] <WilliamC> boscop, have you considered reinstalling?
[14:57] <joaopinto> ActionParsnip1, the user was not asking about your experience, was asking about a general question about performance between OSes
[14:57] <grawity> !info ttf-bitstream
[14:57] <nsahoo> grawity: i have those, let me try using them
[14:57] <Marchingknight11> ptn107: ok, i activated that and rebooted and it still isnt working
[14:57] <boscop> gburton: what could it be? I didn't change anything except updating/upgrading since installation
[14:57] <ActionParsnip1> joaopinto: well i can only call it as i see it
[14:57] <Consty> When upgrading to ubuntu server 9.10 from 9.04, if I closed do-release-upgrade before it finished, can I simply re-run it again, or will it attempt to upgrade to the next version of ubuntu in development?
[14:57] <cellofellow> boscop: try using System Monitor, htop, or plain top to see what is hogging your resources.
[14:57] <joaopinto> there is a misconception that Ubuntu can run everywhere faster than any OS, which is not true
[14:57] <gburton> boscop: open a terminal and run top
[14:58] <lazarus> i've found major bug in 9.10
[14:58] <boscop> WilliamC: what would that change?
[14:58] <nsahoo> grawity: i guess they are fine
[14:58] <ActionParsnip1> SurfyDudee: if there is an RPM there may be source code you can compile
[14:58] <joaopinto> ActionParsnip1, and how does that help the question ?
[14:58] <da651> alyone from Wales here and use Boinc, please join the Welsh team, I am the founder, sry for the plug buts its for a good free cause :)
[14:58] <WilliamC> boscop, hopefully the problem.
[14:58] <flan_suse> I asked in the xubuntu channel, but got no response: I'm having a problem with saving my wireless WPA passhprase using Xubuntu. I have "Start GNOME services" enabled, and I also installed "Seahorse" via Synaptics.
[14:58] <flan_suse> However, the NetworkManager is not saving my WPA passphrase. And the one time it did, it left it unprotected (plaintext, not a hash, like GNOME does.)
 I have no idea how to do that...im new to ubuntu
[14:58] <flan_suse> When I open up Seahorse, I cannot "change password" for the login key.
[14:58] <apostasiopoihmen> so many users
[14:59] <boscop> WilliamC: the problem is, that apps take so much cpu, often operapluginwrapper is at the top
[14:59] <SurfyDudee> can you tell me in easy terms please
[14:59] <ptn107> Marchingknight11: you can try the other then, just make sure you deactivate b43 first
[14:59] <module000> flan_suse: http://wicd.sourceforge.net/
[14:59] <chazco> One of the regressions introduced in 9.10 is that DVB support seems to have been lost (due to the removal of totem-xine)... how can I get this back?
[14:59] <hatchetman82> wow ... post 9.10 rush hour
[14:59] <WilliamC> boscop, that shouldn't happen, ever.
[14:59] <flan_suse> module000, I don't like wicd.
[14:59] <Marchingknight11> ptn107: ok thanks ill try that
[14:59] <boscop> WilliamC: with windows, minimized apps don't take so much cpu
[14:59] <gburton> lol i just noticed the 1698 users O_o
[14:59] <flan_suse> module000, wicd stores your passphrase in plaintext in a global file, accessible by anyone.
[14:59] <hatchetman82> the more the merrier ?
[14:59] <WilliamC> boscop, how long have you been having this problem?
[14:59] <n8tuser> flan_suse-> i do not use those other gui tools, can you not do it manually in the /etc/network/interfaces  file?
[14:59] <lazarus> i am on an acer aspire 5315 when i installed karmic processor overheat and caused pc to shut off
[14:59] <boscop> WilliamC: what can I do? if I reinstall it, I delete all my configs
[14:59] <module000> flan_suse: odd, mine does not, it's sha2'd
[15:00] <Consty> When upgrading to ubuntu server 9.10 from 9.04, if I closed do-release-upgrade before it finished, can I simply re-run it again, or will it attempt to upgrade to the next version of xubuntu in development?
[15:00] <boscop> WilliamC: it has been slow since installation
[15:00] <flan_suse> module000, what version of wicd?
[15:00] <hatchetman82> is there  a way to bind a mouse key to a different key-combo depending on which application has mouse focus ?
[15:00] <dios_mio> my wired icon looks like the plug is pulled? how come?
[15:00] <Scuttle> is there a way to completely reinstall my sound? I tried installed XBMC, and for some reason, Ubuntu no longer think I have a soundcard
[15:00] <ActionParsnip1> Consty: you may have to run: sudo apt-et -f install
[15:00] <module000> flan_suse: 1.5.9
[15:00] <brotkasten> is anyone experiencing random crashes with the new release 9.10 ? Gnome just randomly crashed and I found myself in the login screen. I checked /var/log/messages and found only one thing about pid.c and pulseaudio
[15:00] <hatchetman82> (like having the tile wheel issue shift+tab to firefox and alt+left to nautilus)
[15:00] <SurfyDudee> Younder how do i do a source install
[15:00] <gburton> i think we should split the channel... everybody, to #ubuntu-network or #ubuntu-hardware!
[15:00] <WilliamC> boscop, it really should never behave like that.
[15:00] <prv> hi all.
[15:00] <module000> flan_suse: i had endless troubles with wifi in networkmanager though, that's what prompted the switch
[15:00] <carresmd> when will they replace the damn keyserver, it constantly down!!
[15:00] <da651> Boinc-Rosetta I should say
[15:00] <flan_suse> module000, I've tried the latest version of wicd, and it's still stored in the wireless.conf file, unhashed.
[15:00] <Consty> ActionParsnip1: Would the command fail if it didn't work? Because I reran it a second time and it seems to be doing it, but have no idea what version it's upgrading to
[15:01] <Guest925> when trying to upgrade form 9.04 to 9.10, will not update dkms, fakeroot and lupin-support.  keeps asking for cd "Ubuntu 9.10 _Karmic Koala_ - Release i386 (20091028.5)" which i never had.  i cant even find that cd image. can someone assist please
[15:01] <SurfyDudee> Can anyone tell me how to do a source install of an rom driver
[15:01] <SurfyDudee> rpm*
[15:01] <module000> flan_suse: what flags are you compiling with? that should not be default behavior
[15:01] <ActionParsnip1> carresmd: use  pgp.mit.edu  instead
[15:01] <DJones> !rpm | SurfyDudee
[15:01] <boscop> WilliamC: I thought linux handles resources better than windows. but apparently, it does not so good
[15:01] <ActionParsnip1> Consty: it should hopefully resume the install and fix stuff
[15:01] <conb123> Will the ubuntu karmic iso still work if i burn it to a dvd-rw?
[15:01] <gburton> boscop: stop complaining, its freeeee!
[15:01] <Consty> ActionParsnip1: Haha, guess I'll test it then
[15:01] <carresmd> ActionParsnip1, but I want to publish my keys to keyserver.ubuntu.com so I can use it in launchpad.. :-(
[15:01] <merl15> hi. I'm on Karmic and I just tried installing grip, the CD ripping software, and it's not in the repositories, though it was in previous versions of Ubuntu, apparently. I noticed that some other software that should be available and was in earlier ubuntu releases isn't anymore. Can anyone explain why that is? Have the packages perhaps just not been added to the repositories yet?
[15:02] <brotkasten> Consty: 99.5% yes :)
[15:02] <boscop> gburton: that's why I still use it
[15:02] <gburton> if i gave you free ice cream would you complain that it didnt have enough chocolate chips?
[15:02] <ActionParsnip1> carresmd: they rsync between each other
[15:02] <boscop> gburton: and I love it, but I just wish it would be faster :(
[15:02] <brotkasten> conb123: 99.5% yes
[15:02] <brotkasten> Consty: sorry ... wrong nick :)
[15:02] <Plugh> merl15, I was looking for grip too and found it missing.
[15:02] <WilliamC> merl15, have you checked your sources?
[15:02] <carresmd> ActionParsnip1, ok. I'll try that, thanks
[15:02] <gburton> you said your CPU was maxed out, that tells me you have a problem.
[15:02] <gburton> my cpu is at 4% right now
[15:02] <flan_suse> module000, not compiling. Binary .deb from the wicd ppa.
[15:02] <ActionParsnip1> boscop: try a different distribution then, maybe ubuntu isnt for you
[15:02] <conb123> brotkasten: Brilliant thanks
[15:02] <boscop> WilliamC: would it help to install the other 1 GB ram I have outside?
[15:03] <module000> flan_suse: hrm..i don't haev any advice there, i don't know what flags they use in their binary offerings
[15:03] <merl15> Plugh, oh :(
[15:03] <WilliamC> boscop, I have 512 MB of RAM and a slower processor and don't have that problem.
[15:03] <boscop> ActionParsnip1: but everyone suggests their distro only, I don't know what's right for me
[15:03] <merl15> WilliamC, yes, what about them?
[15:03] <ActionParsnip1> boscop: you just need to try some to see what you like
[15:03] <boscop> WilliamC: can you play games fast enough?
[15:04] <module000> flan_suse: back to network manager...have you tried destroying it's local settings and restarting it?  maybe there are some conflicting preferences saved causing adverse behavior
[15:04] <tMx> whats the best game in linux ?
[15:04] <da651> you wont get better than ubuntu unless your running non gui
[15:04] <mnass> does any skype binarypackage works on 9.04?
[15:04] <WilliamC> boscop, yes.
[15:04] <leleobhz> packages.ubuntu is down?
[15:04] <snellcode> tMx: alien arena
[15:04] <boscop> ActionParsnip1: actually, I want a working system, not having to transfer my data all the time and reconfiguring all stuff
[15:04] <fasta> boscop, you seem to have the idea that there is a difference between distributions. I have news for you. There isn't any interesting difference between them.
[15:04] <tMx> k
[15:04] <ActionParsnip1> tMx: frets on fire imho. There is no best
[15:04] <erUSUL> !best | tMx
[15:04] <squidly> mnass: I have skype working in 9.04 xubuntu
[15:04] <da651> non, gui go Debian everytime, superb
[15:04] <san2345> intel grafics working any better on 9.10?
[15:04] <ActionParsnip1> tMx: penumbra is pretty cool too  (its paid for but the demo is free)
[15:04] <WilliamC> merl15, make sure you have all of the install sources checked so you can install all packages.
[15:04] <flan_suse> module000, in my home directory you mean?
[15:04] <mnass> wich packache do you use squidly
[15:04] <notfoo> Where does BitchX store its settings/config? ~/.BitchX ?
[15:05] <module000> flan_suse: yes, just a shot in the dark though
[15:05] <ActionParsnip1> boscop: then have a seperate home partition
[15:05] <merl15> WilliamC, yeah, they are all "checked"
[15:05] <flan_suse> module000, I did not have this problem on Ubuntu. It only gives me this issue on Xubuntu.
[15:05] <WilliamC> ActionParsnip1, I'm trying to play Penumbra in WINE and it doesn't work.
[15:05] <module000> flan_suse: does xubuntu also use network-manager by default?(i've never used it and don't know)
[15:05] <merl15> are some packages just not available in the karmic repositories yet?
[15:05] <fasta> boscop, you can replace the distro kernel with your own kernel if you want. You can install stuff from source if you want on all of them. They all have the same drivers. They sometimes have different package systems, but that's about it.
[15:05] <ActionParsnip1> WilliamC: theres a linux version, you dont need wine
[15:05] <dAlfa89_> WilliamC, why didn't you get the Linux version?
[15:05] <Marchingknight11> ptn107: i attempted to activate broadcom sta wireless driver and it wont let me
[15:06] <ActionParsnip1> WilliamC: its a native linux game
[15:06] <WilliamC> ActionParsnip1, I picked it up from the bargain bin, plus my laptop runs XP and that's my main computer.
[15:06] <Mike_lifeguard> How can I install firefox 3.0 in Karmic?
[15:06] <notfoo> sigh
[15:06] <Mike_lifeguard> The Karmic repositories only have 3.5 :\
[15:06] <schaze> Hi, I just noticed that the pydev package for eclipse is missing. Will that be added again to the repos for karmic?
[15:06] <da651> is there a online scabble available?
[15:06] <module000> flan_suse: check(or possibly destroy) /etc/NetworkManager settigns also
[15:06] <da651> scrabble even
[15:06] <Plugh> Marchingknight11: Which device do you have? I have karmic on a laptop with a Broadcom 4312. I just put the WiFi firmware files in place and was able to activate the broadcom sta drivers.
[15:07] <saji> Mike_lifeguard, I think you can use ubuntuzilla script to install older firefox versions..
[15:07] <ActionParsnip1> WilliamC: i see, yeah theres a native linux game
[15:07] <module000> flan_suse: some user-settings could be conflicting with some system-wide settings specified there
[15:07] <n8tuser> flan_suse-> is there like a /etc/wicd.conf file? or does /etc/NetworkManager/*.conf file?
[15:07] <crypto_> hey i need help
[15:07] <Marchingknight11> plugh:  Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g (rev 01)
[15:07] <Mike_lifeguard> saji: What is that?
[15:07] <dAlfa89_> !ask | crypto_
[15:07] <ActionParsnip1> WilliamC: http://www.gameupdates.org/details.php?id=2450
[15:07] <crypto_> sound comes from both the default and headphone speakers when headphones are plugged in
[15:07] <flan_suse> module000, I'll check them out.
[15:07] <gribouille> hi
[15:07] <[manas]> grawity, thanks works good
[15:07] <san2345> ActionParsnip1, any codec pack for ubuntu?
[15:07] <flan_suse> n8tuser, what do you mean?
[15:07] <Plugh> Marchingknight11: ok, same device I have. Have you run the process to extract the WiFi firmware?
[15:07] <bibekdai> .
[15:07] <gribouille> my windows system has wiped out grub. what can I do ?
[15:08] <saji> Mike_lifeguard, Its a pyhton script available for install via synaptic itself...
[15:08] <n8tuser> Plugh-> curious where did you put that firmware file? at /lib/firmware?
[15:08] <san2345> ActionParsnip1, i need to play avi mkv flv etc.
[15:08] <module000> san2345: you mean codecs for mp3/divx etc?
[15:08] <ActionParsnip1> !codec | san2345
[15:08] <Flynsarmy> How do i get the update manager appearing in my system tray when there are updates like in previous versions? (on karmic)
[15:08] <san2345> yup
[15:08] <Marchingknight11> plugh: how do i do that
[15:08] <crypto_> Sound comes from both the notebooks default speakers and the headphones when the jack is put in
[15:08] <crypto_> can anyone help
[15:08] <n8tuser> flan_suse-> is there like a /etc/wicd.conf file? or does /etc/NetworkManager/*.conf file?  does these files exist?
[15:08] <rafa_nunes> I could access a cd driver over the Network, can I run some cd from there?
[15:08] <WilliamC> ActionParsnip1, shame the disk didn't come with both
[15:08] <crypto_> thanks in advance
[15:08] <dios_mio> my wired icon looks like the plug is pulled? how come?
[15:08] <ActionParsnip1> WilliamC: i'm suprised too
[15:08] <Shockrates> hi how to i change the encoding of a txt with kate?
[15:08] <flan_suse> n8tuser, it's a per-user setting, so the nm settings are in ~/ for me.
[15:08] <n8tuser> rafa_nunes-> what do you mean? can you elaborate a little bit?
[15:08] <WilliamC> ActionParsnip1, maybe it does and I just wasn't looking
[15:08] <Mike_lifeguard> saji: I don't see it.
[15:08] <saji> Mike_lifeguard, You can use it to compile your own Firefox any version, usually newest version, but you can use it for installing older versions too...
[15:09] <ptn107> Marchingknight11: what ubuntu you have
[15:09] <brotkasten> crypto_: remove them and put them in again
[15:09] <ubuntu_giant> First of all 9.10 is awesome!  It boots really quickly.
[15:09] <ubuntu_giant> However, recently (near the end of 9.04), my wireless stopped working (wireless is "Atheros Communications Inc. AR5001 Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)").  I tried downloading the driver via the instructions on the Atheros site, but nothing worked.
[15:09] <ubuntu_giant> Any ideas?  Thanks.
[15:09] <FloodBot2> ubuntu_giant: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:09] <bratiz> hey
[15:09] <boscop> WilliamC: could it be that my graphic card is bad?
[15:09] <Marchingknight11> ptn107: 9.10 just installed last night
[15:09] <brotkasten> crypto_: i have the same problem, when waking up from suspend mode
[15:09] <WilliamC> boscop, is the driver installed?
[15:09] <rafa_nunes> n8tuser: I'm trying to do a fresh install 9.10, but I does not have a cd driver in my computer.
[15:09] <n8tuser> flan_suse-> i doubt it, a nic or managing a nic is a system resource, not a per user kind of thing, thats why one has to sudo or have root priviledge to modify such
[15:09] <crypto_> still the same problem
[15:09] <crypto_> i put it in the sound coming from both
[15:10] <ais523> Shockrates: File|Save As..., and choose a different encoding from the dropdown at the bottom
[15:10] <brotkasten> crypto_: usually unplugging and plugging in again works for me
[15:10] <Flynsarmy> the update manager doesnt even appear when there are updates in karmic. its ridiculous. isn't there a better way?
[15:10] <crypto_> headphone and default speakers
[15:10] <Mike_lifeguard> saji: Yes, but I would need the script itself first :)
[15:10] <crypto_> doesnt work
[15:10] <crypto_> :(
[15:10] <th1> can any1 post the link to that ext4 large files bug?
[15:10] <brotkasten> crypto_: mhhh ... strange ...
[15:10] <n8tuser> rafa_nunes-> and you are trying to do what now? pxe install or network install?
[15:10] <boscop> WilliamC: VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07)
[15:10] <Plugh> gribouille: Boot from a livecd and re-install grub from there would be one option
[15:10] <apostasiopoihmen> geiaaa
[15:10] <th1> I wanted to test it
[15:10] <crypto_> there was no sound in headphones at all in 9.04
[15:10] <apostasiopoihmen> kanas ellhnas?
[15:10] <WilliamC> boscop, that might be the problem, I'm not sure
[15:10] <dj_> hey guys when i right click on avi file i can creat rar file when i click on iso file i can not  creat rar file why is that can i rar .iso file
[15:10] <saji> Mike_lifeguard, Isn't 'UbuntuZilla' there is Synaptic Karmic repository?
[15:10] <rafa_nunes> n8tuser: I did the upgrade from 9.0.4 and a lot of things just stop. Can I access a cd driver in the network to start the fresh install?
[15:10] <MK13> how do I add an entry to the grub boot menu, i have noticed /boot/grub/menu.lst is missing in 9.10 and the only thing that looks similar is /boot/grub/grub.cfg which says not to edit it?
[15:10] <crypto_> now there is sound but from both the speakers and headphones
[15:11] <disco_lemonade> how many in here PREFER CLI usage
[15:11] <Mike_lifeguard> th1: I thought I heard it was fixed? In any case, you probably want to try #ext4 on irc.oftc.net
[15:11] <boscop> WilliamC: how can I find out? I only know that my graphics card has 32 MB
[15:11] <Plugh> n8tuser: IIRC, it was /lib/firmware. I'd have to turn on the laptop to check.
[15:11] <MK13> disco_lemonade, me
[15:11] <disco_lemonade> cuz i definitely do
[15:11] <WilliamC> boscop, I don't know
[15:11] <ptn107> Marchingknight11: i did two clean installs on two different laptops 9.10 32-bit, 9.10 64-bit, both use broadcom cards 4312,4318 and the b43 driver works for them,  i can't figure this one out
[15:11] <disco_lemonade> nice MK13
[15:11] <Mike_lifeguard> saji: No, it is not there.
[15:11] <Marchingknight11> plugh: how do i run the process you told me to run?
[15:11] <th1> Mike_lifeguard, I was referring to the one on launchpad I don't think it's fixed
[15:11] <disco_lemonade> I feel so awesome when I use command line
[15:11] <MK13> disco_lemonade, but then again i am used to freebsd now XD
[15:11] <th1> Mike_lifeguard, but also not confirmed hence I wanted to test it
[15:11] <brotkasten> crypto_: what are your mixer settings, right click on mixer "sound preferences" ... then "Output" Tab
[15:11] <Plugh> Marchingknight11: I'm looking for the infromation. I found a web site that told me how to do it.
[15:11] <Mike_lifeguard> ah
[15:11] <Marchingknight11> ptn107: that's fine  thanls for trying
[15:11] <Mike_lifeguard> th1: well, I have no info for you then
[15:12] <disco_lemonade> MK13: OH NO! haha cool man...i've been using Arch and a little Gentoo
[15:12] <brotkasten> crypto_: what connector?
[15:12] <th1> Mike_lifeguard, np I'll try to find it from google
[15:12] <Marchingknight11> plugh: thanks I'll loook around too
[15:12] <saji> Mike_lifeguard, Just a minute..
[15:12] <crypto_> internal audio analog stereo
[15:12] <crypto_> Its my headphone 3.5 mm jack
[15:12] <MK13> how do i add boot entries to the grub menu?
[15:12] <ptn107> Marchingknight11: np
[15:12] <notfoo> Where does BitchX store its settings/config? ~/.BitchX ?
[15:12] <apostasiopoihmen> kanas ellhnas??
[15:12] <crypto_> i got one more option
[15:12] <Plugh> Marchingknight11: I don't think it was the page I used but this may help --> http://my.opera.com/e-mak/blog/configuring-a-builtin-broadcom-4312-wireless-card-on-hp-pavilion-dv6059ea
[15:13] <crypto_> r700 audio device Radeon HD 4000 series digital stereo(HDMI)
[15:13] <brotkasten> crypto_: try it
[15:13] <crypto_> but the first one is selected
[15:13] <crypto_> no sound comes if i select the ATI one
[15:13] <MK13> Marchingknight11, what are you trying to do?
[15:13] <IHS_Volunteer> disco_lemonade, some things, like IRC, and system maintenance are better in the CLI. Other things, like web browsing, suck in the CLI.
[15:13] <u0ath1> Hey guys! I am having some problems with my microphone. It doesn't work . Can anyone help ?
[15:13] <brotkasten> crypto_: hdmi ... sorry
[15:13] <th1> Mike_lifeguard, found it from googling launchpad karmic ext4 corruption md5summd5sum: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic/+source/linux/+bug/453579
[15:13] <brotkasten> crypto_: yes ... mhhh
[15:13] <brotkasten> crypto_: and you mixer settings?
[15:14] <Marchingknight11> MK13: I upgraded to 9.10 yesterday and my wireless driver seems to be missing.
[15:14] <dj_> hey guys can i rar an .iso file
[15:14] <Mike_lifeguard> th1: Yeah, not the bug I was thinking of
[15:14] <djk> Just did apt-get dist-upgrade on a server, rebooted  but /etc/issue still show 9.04 instead of 9.10
[15:14] <IHS_Volunteer> wait, ext4 is still corrupting things? That hasn't been fixed yet? D:
[15:14] <ph33r> is anyone running karmic with intel video drivers ? I had memory leaks till I went back to older intel drivers in jaunty, just wanted to check f anyone faced any problems in karmic
[15:14] <MK13> Marchingknight11, i am guessing you have a broadcom?
[15:14] <crypto_> where are my mixer settings
[15:14] <crypto_> ??
[15:14] <squidly> dj_: you can
[15:14] <ubuntu_giant> Anybody having trouble with Atheros wireless drivers lately?
[15:14] <patrickT> type in console alsamixer
[15:14] <squidly> crypto_: alsamixer in the console
[15:14] <u0ath1> Mike_lifeguard: When I raise the mic levels manually all I get is static ;  (
[15:15] <Marchingknight11> mk13: yes. the lspci is Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g (rev 01)
[15:15] <dj_> squidly: how when i right click on .avi files i see add archive, but when i click on .iso file i dont see add archive
[15:15] <IHS_Volunteer> ubuntu_giant, on 64bit? yes. on 32bit? occasional freezing.
[15:15] <saji> Mike_lifeguard, Download it from-    http://sourceforge.net/projects/ubuntuzilla/
[15:15] <disco_lemonade> is anyone having any MAJOR issues with Karmic?
[15:15] <ubuntu_giant> IHS_Volunteer: On 32-bit, my wireless is completely gone.
[15:15] <crypto_> it gave me some options
[15:15] <MK13> Marchingknight11, have you tried running "sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter"?
[15:15] <crypto_> master PCM
[15:15] <crypto_> etc etc
[15:15] <squidly> dj_: why do you need to rar it?
[15:15] <hanasaki> how do I set up a vnc server that will prompt with gdm?
[15:15] <crypto_> where to go
[15:15] <FloodBot2> crypto_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:15] <IHS_Volunteer> ubuntu_giant, odd. I don't have that problem on 9.04.
[15:16] <dj_> squidly: becaul i want it you know how to do it or no and stop asking stupid questions
[15:16] <squidly> dj_: ok open up a terminal and type man rar
[15:16] <Travis-42> Ubuntu has a lot of groups created by default (with no user):q: backup, operator, list, irc, tape
[15:16] <Marchingknight11> mk13: do i have to reboot now or anything?
[15:16] <Travis-42> are they used for anything?
[15:16] <crypto_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/305135/ have a look please
[15:16] <ptn107> Marchingknight11: b43-fwcutter is the same as enabling the b43 driver in Hardware Drivers      installing bcmwl-kernel-source is the same as enabling the STA driver
[15:16] <brotkasten> crypto_: sorry ... had to go for a sec
[15:17] <crypto_> no problem
[15:17] <edgy> Hi, how can I upgrade my old karmic-dvd-i386 to the stable version, please, using rsync?
[15:17] <crypto_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/305135/ have a look please
[15:17] <squidly> dj_: typically linux files are "rared" with things like tar and gz
[15:17] <MK13> Marchingknight11, yea, try restarting to see if wlan0 then shows up for iwconfig
[15:17] <IHS_Volunteer> Karmic's installer sure is nice.
[15:17] <squidly> to make a tarball tar -zxcf filename.tar.gz $path_to_files_to_include
[15:17] <naser67> hi to all
[15:17] <Plugh> bbl...
[15:17] <u0ath1> http://bit.ly/1hCEfs  my problem
[15:17] <dj_> squidly: but how can i do it just like an avi when i rigth click i can rar it why i must use command line on terminal
[15:17] <squidly> dj_:
[15:18] <squidly> http://coderstalk.blogspot.com/2008/03/create-and-extract-rar-files-in-linux.html
[15:18] <naser67> i'm using xampp 1.7.1 and i wanna install apc extension on it
[15:18] <coordinador> Hi, how can i open docx in openoffice?
[15:18] <squidly> dj_: because it's not an options when you right click.
[15:18] <naser67> what should i do?
[15:18] <soeren> hi folk
[15:19] <maehze> hi. i got a problem.... i use an upgraded karmic. if i want to install grub2, apt-get says that it wants to remove grub(1) ... but i want to install grub2 and grub1, so i can test it with a chainload
[15:19] <Bodsda> squidly: you could have a nautilus script to do it
[15:19] <t00r> hi @ll
[15:19] <dj_> squidly: why i dont see any example on google
[15:19] <brotkasten> crypto_: mhhh looks good to me
[15:19] <squidly> Bodsda: I dont use nautilus
[15:19] <brotkasten> crypto_: just like mine
[15:19] <crypto_> so why is the sound isnt coming only from the speakers
[15:19] <crypto_> I mean headphones
[15:19] <dj_> squidly: why i dont see any example on google
[15:19] <Bodsda> squidly: fair enough
[15:19] <crypto_> i have a dv6-1161Tx
[15:20] <squidly> dj_: i gave you and example of how to do it via the cli.
[15:20] <squidly> hold one sec let me get you a link
[15:20] <Marchingknight11> mk13: after rebooting it still shows no wireless option
[15:20] <module000> maehze: grub2 is a different beast, i went through that last night
[15:20] <brotkasten> crypto_: instead you have no headphones in your mixer
[15:20] <soeren> Can someone help me with nvidia grafik drivers? Maybe private chat?
[15:20] <Marchingknight11> I'm going to try the other driver
[15:20] <ccooke> Hi. Anyone seen a grub error? It's refusing to boot because it can't find the UUID... but the UUID is correct and if I tell it not to look for UUID, it works.
[15:20] <brotkasten> *except
[15:20] <dj_> squidly i see man rar but it does not help i need example of creating volumes
[15:20] <squidly> dj_: http://tinyurl.com/yfyssyq
[15:20] <brotkasten> crypto_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/305140/
[15:20] <brotkasten> crypto_: this is mine
[15:20] <ptn107> Marchingknight11: you on a laptop?
[15:21] <maehze> did u manage it to load grub2 via grub ?
[15:21] <MK13> Marchingknight11, is the device turned on (sorry, trying to be thorough)
[15:21] <Marchingknight11> ptn107: yea a dell vostro 2510
[15:21] <crypto_> so what should i do brot
[15:21] <Marchingknight11> mk13: yes it is turned on
[15:21] <ptn107> Marchingknight11: make sure the wireless button is on (and lit)
[15:21] <crypto_> how to get the settings same as yours
[15:21] <ptn107> Marchingknight11: o ok
[15:21] <Marchingknight11> ptn107: the switch is on, but the light is not lit
[15:21] <blizzkid> grmbl flash is broken after installing ureadahead
[15:21] <ccooke> There seems to be a few people with the UUID problem online, but I've not found a single solution yet :-/
[15:22] <ptn107> Marchingknight11: press it again
[15:22] <dj_> squidly your link does not help again
[15:22] <Mike_lifeguard> If I download the required .deb packages from https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-security/+archive/ppa/+build/1312134 could I install them on Karmic even though they're for Jaunty?
[15:22] <slacker_nl> anyone here with an iso of the alternate CD?
[15:22] <Marchingknight11> ptn107: no luck
[15:22] <ptn107> Marchingknight11: gahh
[15:22] <MK13> Marchingknight11, what driver did you use before the one that shows up system>admin>hardware driver
[15:22] <bibekdai> why is there no /etc/grub/menu.lst file in karmic ?
[15:22] <hopper_irc> how to update release 9.04 to 9.10
[15:22] <Marchingknight11> ptn107: the bluetooth light is on but the wifi is not
[15:22] <squidly> bibekdai: because 9.10 went to grub2
[15:22] <dj_> squidly your link does not help again
[15:22] <daleharvey> !grub2
[15:22] <Marchingknight11> mk13: the other driver option is broadcom sta wireless driver
[15:22] <ais523> hopper_irc: System | Update Manager should give you a button to update
[15:23] <bibekdai> ok, thanks
[15:23] <merl15> so, can anyone recommend a GUI CD audio ripping software? Grip and sound-juicer are not available for me in the repositories for some reason..
[15:23] <ActionParsnip1> bibekdai: its grub2 now
[15:23] <brotkasten> crypto_: maybe you have a wrong sounddriver ?
[15:23] <squidly> dj_: I will help those willing to help them selfs
[15:23] <hopper_irc> hmm
[15:23] <maehze> squidly: not if u upgraded it
[15:23] <bthomson> guys, how to get back the logout menu in upper right corner in 9.10?
[15:23] <ActionParsnip1> !info grip
[15:23] <Bodsda> slacker_nl: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors#alternate
[15:23] <gburton> i dont know why people upgrade their OSES, i find that something always breaks.
[15:23] <brotkasten> crypto_: did you check alsa drivers for your card ?
[15:23] <dj_> squidly i asked you how to rar iso file
[15:23] <brotkasten> crypto_: lspci ?
[15:23] <wolfgang> Wo ist hier eine schoene Frau, die deutsch sprechen kann?
[15:23] <ActionParsnip1> merl15: nautilus can rip CDs
[15:23] <brotkasten> hier
[15:23] <dj_> ok your link you gave its worthless
[15:23] <gburton> wolfgang: nobody, we all speak english
[15:23] <ActionParsnip1> !de | wolfgang
[15:23] <Flynsarmy> How do i get the update manager appearing in my system tray when there are updates like in previous versions? (on karmic)
[15:23] <module000> maehze: when you upgrade it doesn't ugprade to grub2, but you can remove grub1 and replace pretty painlessly
[15:23] <maehze> wolfgang: das hier ist keine date-platform
[15:23] <brotkasten> haha :)
[15:24] <merl15> ActionParsnip1, to different audio formats?
[15:24] <crypto_> so how to get a correct sound driver
[15:24] <brotkasten> what does lspci tell you?
[15:24] <blizzkid> und, Deutsch ist eine blöde Sprache!
[15:24] <t00r> I have a problem, I have to order some ubuntu-cd for my student-comitee to make in install party and when I log in shipit, it says I actually receive some cd
[15:24] <ActionParsnip1> merl15: i believe there are settings in nautilus some place
[15:24] <module000> maehze: if you 'sudo apt-get install grub-pc' and it installs grub2, removes grub1, then issue 'grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg && grub-install /dev/sda(or your primary device)', that will do it
[15:24] <brotkasten> crypto_: what audio device ?
[15:24] <squidly> dj_: I told you to go to the cli and look up how to do it that way.. that would do what you need. You said "how can I right click it". I dont use Nautilus so I dont know.. thus the link to lmgtfy
[15:24] <t00r> what can I do to get some cd's?
[15:24] <brotkasten> crypto_: and what does lsmod say?
[15:24] <Bodsda> t00r: shipit, or download them
[15:24] <ActionParsnip1> !shippit | t00r
[15:24] <mr-dedup> where are my C header files to match my running kernel?  I seem to be able to find all kernels except my rinning kernel
[15:24] <ewb> get a mac
[15:25] <maehze> apt-get install grub2 -> will be removed:  grub
[15:25] <maehze> will be installed:  grub-pc grub2
[15:25] <ActionParsnip1> ewb: sure if you pay for it
[15:25] <Skaperen> anyone know where to get OFFICIAL MD5 checksums of the ISOs?
[15:25] <eduard> i have a question the question is how do i use compiz to show me both ubuntu and windows?
[15:25] <ewb> get a job
[15:25] <ERNANDES> no
[15:25] <brahmana|web> anyone knows of a machine/website which is currently down?
[15:25] <crypto_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/305144/ output of lsmod
[15:25] <ActionParsnip1> ewb: got one
[15:25] <blizzkid> ewb: ActionParsnip1 a Mac makes a fine machine to run Ubuntu :D
[15:25] <module000> maehze: that's what you want
[15:25] <ewb> brahmana|web: 1.1.100.1
[15:25] <dj_> does anyone know how to rar iso file
[15:25] <jacquesdupontd> hi guys
[15:25] <ActionParsnip1> Skaperen: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[15:25] <maehze> ok
[15:25] <kyentei> Hello everyone. I hope somebody can help me here. My Toshiba keeps freezing when it runs 9.10... I can't seem to find a solution either.
[15:25] <Skaperen> ActionParsnip1: thanks
[15:25] <jacquesdupontd> i update 9.04 to 9.10
[15:26] <ActionParsnip1> ewb: just that mac is appauling value for money
[15:26] <bazhang> !ot
[15:26] <ghostlines> is it possible to install 32 bit printer drivers on a 64 bit distro?
[15:26] <n8tuser> kyentei-> using livecd?
[15:26] <ERNANDES> seis sao tudo americanos
[15:26] <ewb> kyentei: probably hardware
[15:26] <maehze> but if i want to test it.... and load grub2 via grub1 in a chainload? don'tt i have to have grub1 installed?
[15:26] <kyentei> Livecd, live usb, installed. Everything works fine for a certain amount of time. 9.04 worked.
[15:26] <slango> is anyone using Ubuntu 9.10 in Parallels?
[15:26] <dj_> does anyone know how to rar iso file
[15:26] <ghostlines> i have the ia32-libs install but still no luck
[15:26] <t00r> Bodsda, ActionParsnip1  shipit doesnt let me order them and to give them to new users it's always better to have "original"-cd
[15:26] <dj_> does anyone know how to rar iso file
[15:26] <rwat> ok I've got an intel mac mini that just upgraded to karmic but has - init: sreadahead main process (2163) terminated with status 1
[15:26] <frostburn> how do you move guake to the top of the screen?
[15:26] <blizzkid> ActionParsnip1: the same old "value for money" FUD again? Dgee... try to make an equal PC that looks as sexy as a Max for the same money...
[15:26] <boscop> how can I disable the lock-screen after 10 minutes?
[15:26] <eduard> anone have a guide for using compiz the one from ubuntu gives me all kinda errors feels like im still using windows...
[15:27] <brotkasten> dj_: use 7zip
[15:27] <ERNANDES> responde?
[15:27] <n8tuser> dj_-> umm how would you normally rar a regular file? it should not any more different yes?
[15:27] <dj_> no i want rar
[15:27] <ActionParsnip1> blizzkid: i dont care aout looks, i want bang for buck. I also dislike vendor lockin
[15:27] <Pici> !rar | dj_
[15:27] <bratiz> dj_: yeah iz rar command is sudo apt-get install rar and rar a -v1000 ubucd.rar ubuntu-9.10-desktop-i386.iso
[15:27] <lazarus> kyentei, alot of peoples laptops including my own now on 9.4 after bad update it kept overheating and shutting off so i went back to 9.04
[15:27] <BlouBlou> boscop: system >> preferences >> screensaver
[15:27] <mr-dedup> does anyone know how to find the C headers that match my running kernel, I belive the app is looking for version.h, and I have several on my system, not sure which is correct and my /usr/src/"running kernel header dir" doesnt have the version.h file....what the hell?
[15:27] <jacquesdupontd> appart some problem of X and some little others it seems to have worken good, the thing is it has a weird boot like it's going into a console before it start but seems it's still starting ont 7th so i think all is ok for that, i come to you cause i don't know what ati drivers to install cause i just managed to install catalyst 9.10 that just went out and my card is working but really not as much as it should, so could anyon
[15:27] <jacquesdupontd> e help me with ati card driver and configuration on that new ubuntu 9.10 ?
[15:27] <erUSUL> mr-dedup: « sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) »
[15:28] <dj_> bratiz how can i rar iso file
[15:28] <brotkasten> dj_: 7zip can create rar archives
[15:28] <module000> maehze: you could, but i haven't tried that
[15:28] <bratiz> dj: its with that command i just showed
[15:28] <bratiz> or use other # than 1000 if u want differenet part size than 1 mb
[15:28] <Logan83> hei
[15:28] <blizzkid> ActionParsnip1: there's no vendor lockin with a Mac, you can perfectly run Ubuntu on it
[15:28] <torger> hello, I have windows 7 installed on my secondary drive and karmic on my primary drive, karmic boots fine but windows 7 will only boot when I directly boot the drive and not through grub2, grub2 says that there is no such device
[15:28] <ActionParsnip1> blizzkid: if you like looks over speed I can gut you an old dell and put it in a mac case so it "looks nice"
[15:28] <rafa_nunes> every laptop can boot from usb?
[15:29] <MoTec> dj_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=708398
[15:29] <ActionParsnip1> blizzkid: then you've paid double price for mac hardware
[15:29] <brahmana|web> ewb: that was smart. Thank you. I did not know about the reserved IPs
[15:29] <ewb> rafa_nunes: most
[15:29] <IHS_Volunteer> rafa_nunes, no.
[15:29] <ccooke> Anyone know about grub2 not being able to find parititions by UUID?
[15:29] <IHS_Volunteer> I have 3 laptops which can not boot from CD.
[15:29] <mr-dedup> erUSUL - "something is happening" stand by.....
[15:29] <IHS_Volunteer> Er, boot from USB
[15:29] <jacquesdupontd> and also something weird the update did not put my computer into grub 2
[15:29] <rafa_nunes> Uhn, that's what I tought
[15:29] <jacquesdupontd> ok I Repeat my self
[15:29] <ewb> brahmana|web: np
[15:29] <ActionParsnip1> IHS_Volunteer: got a usb stick free? you can install from USB
[15:29] <blizzkid> ActionParsnip1: I'd prefer a Mac over a Dell anytime. I refuse to work with companies that change their hardware in the same machine depending on the warranty you buy
[15:29] <jacquesdupontd> appart some problem of X and some little others it seems to have worken good, the thing is it has a weird boot like it's going into a console before it start but seems it's still starting ont 7th so i think all is ok for that, i come to you cause i don't know what ati drivers to install cause i just managed to install catalyst 9.10 that just went out and my card is working but really not as much as it should, so could anyon
[15:29] <jacquesdupontd> e help me with ati card driver and configuration on that new ubuntu 9.10 ?
[15:29] <bratiz> dj_: like rar a -v20000 ubucd.rar ubuntu-9.10-desktop-i386.iso for 20 mb partz
[15:30] <ahmedabdellatif> h need help
[15:30] <mikebeecham> hi there, I have an Audigy 4 soundcard, which is no longer recognised under Karmic, when it was with 9.04.  On top of that, whenever my sons play games on the machine, the sound is very crackly and intermittant.  Can anyone help?
[15:30] <MoTec> bratiz: nice gui for that cli challenged here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=708398
[15:30] <ActionParsnip1> blizzkid: i refuse to pay over the odds when I can get the same spec for nearly half the price
[15:30] <sipior> ActionParsnip1 blizzkid: gentlemen, this is not really the place for mac/pc dogfighting, i think.
[15:30] <IHS_Volunteer> ActionParsnip1, Maybe if the 3 laptops booted from USB. They don't boot from CD< either...busted CD-ROM drives that are of a particular and difficult to replace variety. I could buy an equivalent laptop for less than the CD-ROM drives :(
[15:30] <brotkasten> ccooke: did you try to use old fashion style (hdX,X) ?
[15:30] <lazarus> 9.10 sucks atm  including my own now on 9.4 after bad update it kept overheating and shutting off so i went back to 9.04
[15:31] <mikebeecham> My soundcard is labelled as an Internal Audio 1 Output device
[15:31] <IHS_Volunteer> 2 boot from the network though!
[15:31] <jacquesdupontd> me too
[15:31] <ActionParsnip1> IHS_Volunteer: do they have floppies you can boot from?
[15:31] <blizzkid> sipior: I agree, and also not the place to spread FUD of any kind
[15:31] <jacquesdupontd> in 9.10 i have some problems that freeze the desktop
[15:31] <docmax> i updated to 9.10... why do i still have grub1?
[15:31] <mr-dedup> erUSUL: ding dong the withc is dead, the witch is dead, ding dong the wicked witch is dead
[15:31] <jacquesdupontd> so nobody's here and could help me ?
[15:31] <kyentei> I guess I'll go ahead and install the netbook remix 9.10..
[15:31] <mr-dedup> thanks erUSUL
[15:31] <Pici> docmax: upgrades will not change the grub version
[15:31] <IHS_Volunteer> ActionParsnip1, 2 of them do. and 2 support netbooting. SO, I do have options.
[15:31] <kyentei> docmax: Grub1 remains unless you install it manuallly
[15:31] <erUSUL> mr-dedup: ;) no problem
[15:31] <m4t> hey, is anyone aware of a way to keep avahi from starting at boot? i tried adding exit to the scripts in /etc/networ/if-, commented out the 'start on' lines in /etc/init, modified symlinks in /etc/rc.N, etc.
[15:31] <H2O> Happy Britney Ubuntu ...............!!
[15:31] <docmax> jacquesdupontd, downgrade to 9.04
[15:31] <Flynsarmy> How do i get the update manager appearing in my system tray when there are updates like in previous versions? (on karmic)
[15:31] <ccooke> brotkasten: I haven't tried any direct intervention in grub yet. I can bot by manually removing search lines from the grub menu
[15:32] <jacquesdupontd> i have to find a blank cd to erase and install 9.10 from the beginning
[15:32] <jacquesdupontd> it's a brand new computer so i don't have so much things installed
[15:32] <bratiz> motec: is hard 2 use gui inside hacxked sever shell ;)
[15:32] <ActionParsnip1> IHS_Volunteer: you can get special floppy images that will allow you to then boot usb
[15:32] <docmax> kyentei, but new standard for 9.10 is grub2, right?
[15:32] <jacquesdupontd> seems the update sucks a lot
[15:32] <lazarus> you need to install from fresh to use ext4 and grub 2.0
[15:32] <Skaperen> OK, the mirror at host "mirrors.tera-byte.com" has bad ISOs ... MD5s are wrong from there
[15:32] <tMx> its ext3 oder ext4 better ?
[15:32] <merl15> ActionParsnip1, I can't find anything to do with audio ripping in Nautilus and Rhythmbox, which I've set to rip to flac crashes when I start the ripping process. Any other suggestions for what ripping program to use? :)
[15:32] <ccooke> brotkasten: basically, it does a search - for the right UUID - and fails to find it. At which point I can edit the search away and it works (With linux finding the partition by UUID correctly. Same uuid)
[15:32] <ActionParsnip1> IHS_Volunteer: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/use-a-floppy-to-boot-usb-pendrive-linux/
[15:32] <brotkasten> ccooke: i boot my windows partition using root (hd0,1);makeactive;chainloader +1
[15:32] <ActionParsnip1> !rip
[15:33] <brotkasten> ccooke: dont know if grub2 is capable of it, too
[15:33] <ewb> is it possible to use zune store on ubuntu
[15:33] <MoTec> bratiz: true.. i use cli myself (my ubuntu 'server' doesn't even have X installed) but it's looked usefull and i thought you might be interested :)
[15:33] <erUSUL> merl15: sound-juicer ? or  my old time favorite "grip"
[15:33] <ccooke> brotkasten: That looks like a grub1 config. I'm not trying to boot windows, here, either
[15:33] <tMx> its ext3 oder ext4 better ?
[15:33] <ccooke> grub2 is not booting linux
[15:33] <jacquesdupontd> lazarus, just a question it's working perfectly with windows seven i guess ?
[15:33] <madakralc> Anyone knows if there is a way to use XenCenter in ubuntu?
[15:33] <bratiz> it was only 4 dj_ who asked 4 it .. mayB he wants the gui command
[15:33] <tyrone> hi I just updated to 9.10 and for some reason my laptop speakers are popping every few seconds, even when the earphones are plugged in. Can someone help me?
[15:33] <brotkasten> ccooke: oh ... then i misunderstood
[15:34] <jacquesdupontd> ok i'm gonna repair myself and then come here to help everybody cause it seems there's a lot of people with problems that i can solve
[15:34] <sipior> Mx: in the vast majority of use cases, it will make very little difference which you choose.
[15:34] <jacquesdupontd> have to find that blank cd
[15:34] <labouti> htllo
[15:34] <lazarus> jacquesdupontd, 9.10 sucks atm  including my own now on 9.4 after bad update it kept overheating and shutting off so i went back to 9.04 any idea what that problem is
[15:35] <Logan1983> hello
[15:35] <slacker_nl> 9.10 doesn't suck
[15:35] <labouti> i'm in trouble installing ubuntu 9.10 on my macbook, someone did it before here ?
[15:35] <brotkasten> ccooke: menuentry "Chainload my OS" {
[15:35] <labouti> Mac os X snow leopard is fresh install, bootcamp worked well, rEFIT is ok i can boot either on the cd or the hd
[15:35] <th1> I wish the background in 9.10 was still that dark colour it has in the login screen by default
[15:36] <labouti> but when ubuntu comes, the screen goes dark
[15:36] <labouti> and then it ends
[15:36] <gondim> hi all, I have a problem in Server 9.10. the swap sometimes mount and sometimes not mount.
[15:36] <raid0> i need a download manager, compitable with flashgot, and rapidshare, with  "set maximum download speed' option. any ideas?
[15:36] <Logan1983> sarebbe fico trovare qualcuno che capisce una mazza
[15:36] <Logan1983> :D
[15:36] <brotkasten> ccooke: menuentry "Chainload my OS" { set root (hdX,X) ; chainloader +1 } ... this is what you are looking for?
[15:36] <merl15> erUSUL, I like grip a whole lot as well, but neither of them are available for me for some reason. I'm using all repositories too..
[15:36] <erUSUL> !info tucan
[15:36] <blizzkid> !it | Logan1983
[15:36] <ccooke> brotkasten: how will that stop grub from failing to find a partition by uuid?
[15:36] <Pici> !it | Logan1983
[15:36] <lazarus> slacker_nl,  it does if it doesent work
[15:36] <SvdB> Hi! After upgrading to 9.10, my desktop doesn't come up anymore. It does as soon as I manually start dbus. Any ideas why dbus isn't started?
[15:36] <merl15> erUSUL, I'm on karmic btw
[15:36] <erUSUL> merl15: still in jaunty...
[15:36] <erUSUL> !find grip
[15:36] <labouti> hum, well, no idea ?
[15:36] <brotkasten> ccooke: why is it so important to you to use the UUID instead of hdX,X notation if it works for you
[15:37] <n8tuser> gondim-> it mounts sometimes? what do you mean? how often are you shutting down your system or changing init level?
[15:37] <brotkasten> ccooke: this is my question ... sorry for ignoring the uuid thing
[15:37] <raid0> i need a download manager, compitable with flashgot, and rapidshare, with  "set maximum download speed' option. any ideas?
[15:37] <Kottisen> When I click "Activate" nothing happend, why? http://cdn.solidfiles.net/i/8b0c79b6b908c071babb0b896c6a77fc.png
[15:37] <erUSUL> raid0: tucan <<<
[15:37] <ccooke> brotkasten: I have a normal install of Ubuntu. Fresh this morning. *Ubuntu* configured grub2 to search for the grub root by uuid.
[15:37] <carresmd> ActionParsnip1, one problem... the keyservers don't 'rsync' when the damn keyserver.ubuntu.com is down :-(
[15:37] <ccooke> I have verified that is the correct uuid.
[15:37] <ccooke> It fails to find it.
[15:37] <gondim> n8tuser: hi, in shutdown ou reboot system
[15:37] <merl15> erUSUL, okay, thanks. Maybe the packages aren't in the karmic repositories yet..
[15:38] <ActionParsnip1> carresmd: true, could ask in #MOTU
[15:38] <raid0> erUSUL: tucan has gui?
[15:38] <n8tuser> gondim->  come again, im not understanding you..
[15:38] <carresmd> ActionParsnip1, there isn't anyone in #MOTU :-)
[15:38] <erUSUL> raid0: yes
[15:38] <ActionParsnip1> gah
[15:38] <DanaG> !shipit
[15:38] <LuYu> in jaunty, i cant type chinese into QT apps
[15:38] <LuYu> why is that?
[15:38] <brotkasten> ccooke: so it lists your windows 7 partition with uuid, right?
[15:39] <gondim> n8tuser: rebooting system sometimes the swap mount and other not
[15:39] <goodnight> !bug 453579
[15:39] <ccooke> brotkasten: why do you assume I want anything to do with windows? version 7 or any other?
[15:39] <goodnight> ext4 bug is real?
[15:39] <ccooke> I have not mentioned windows at all
[15:39] <jonathan__> Does anyone know if the version of rapidSVN in the 9.10 repos is broken.  I keep getting an error whenever I try to do a check out
[15:39] <SvdB> Is rcconf still relevant with upstart?
[15:39] <gondim> n8tuser: I´m using LVM
[15:39] <n8tuser> gondim-> and how are you verifying these?
[15:39] <jacquesdupontd> lazarus, are you sure it sucks ?
[15:39] <th1> goodnight, i'm testing it now on several machines
[15:40] <gondim> n8tuser: free command
[15:40] <jacquesdupontd> lazarus, for me atm it sucks but i think with a fresh install should work ok they couldn't put something that sucks like that
[15:40] <ccooke> I am attempting to boot ubuntu, but this is only possible every other reboot, and then by editing the grub menu entry
[15:40] <Mist__> So.. how does Karmic seem this far? :)
[15:40] <gondim> Swap:   0    0     0
[15:40] <sin7ax> Q: In Karmic I have mounted windows shares through double clicking them in nautilus
[15:40] <brotkasten> ccooke: haha ... then i answered a totally different question SORRY :P I thought you were the guy who had problems to dual boot his windows 7
[15:40] <jacquesdupontd> everybody saying that it sucks Mike_LaMar
[15:40] <jacquesdupontd> Mist__,
[15:40] <ActionParsnip1> Mist__: s'ok
[15:40] <gondim> n8tuser: Swap:    0   0    0
[15:40] <ccooke> brotkasten: heh
[15:40] <sin7ax> but my /mnt folder is empty??
[15:40] <lazarus> it may be the case of a fresh install for now i'll stay on 9.4
[15:40] <jacquesdupontd> im searching a blank cd to do a fresh install but, Ubuntu is still real s.... to do directe update
[15:41] <sin7ax> how do i mount the smb/win share so i can access it through the cli?
[15:41] <ActionParsnip1> sin7ax: you can see where stuff is mounted if you run: mount
[15:41] <carresmd> ActionParsnip1, do the MOTU guys run the keyserver then?
[15:41] <Mist__> Pretty good statements considering how it was back at 7.x :P
[15:41] <ccooke> no, I'm trying to find out why grub2 (apprantely dreduncantly) searches for its root partition by the correct UUID and fails to find it
[15:41] <Pici> sin7ax: It mounts them using gvfs, so you'd need to look in ~/.gvfs
[15:41] <n8tuser> gondim-> i dont think that meant it is not mounted, use  mount to see what are mounted
[15:41] <ActionParsnip1> carresmd: i'd think they'd know who if its not them
[15:41] <CSWookie> I'm currently running hardy.  I want to get svn 1.6.5, which is in karmic.  Could I just change my sources.list, apt-get update, apt-get install subversion and be ok until this weekend, when I'll have time to do a proper distribution upgrade?
[15:41] <BoredKender> after upgrading to karmic my speakers keep popping, even on mute. has anyone found a fix for this?
[15:41] <kevin009> i just nuked my ext4 installation and reinstalled with ext3 to avoid that data bug
[15:41] <blizzkid> CSWookie: no
[15:42] <GHRockerTaps09> hello. I just downliaded 9.10, and I am wondering how to get support for my Linksys WMP45G Wireless Card.
[15:42] <brotkasten> ccooke: ok ... sorry for that. don't know ... but as long as it fails ... my recommendation would be to use the old fashion style and put your partition numbers instead of uuids
[15:42] <CSWookie> blizzkid: I was afraid someone would say that.
[15:42] <ccooke> Ugh. I am also typing on my Dad's keyboard, which is horrible. (It's his system - I'm upgrading it since I'm up atm)
[15:42] <brotkasten> ccooke: same thing
[15:42] <ActionParsnip1> sin7ax: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=255872&highlight=Permanently+mount+samba+share
[15:42] <th1> kevin009, its not for sure it is an ext4 bug yet
[15:42] <carresmd> ActionParsnip1, it was #ubuntu-motu ;-)
[15:42] <th1> kevin009, there are manuy other things it could be
[15:42] <ccooke> brotkasten: that is not an option
[15:42] <blizzkid> CSWookie: you can install svn from source though
[15:42] <ActionParsnip1> carresmd: ahh i see
[15:42] <carresmd> ActionParsnip1, thanks anyway :-)
[15:42] <module000> BoredKender: tried tweaking pulseaudio?
[15:42] <ActionParsnip1> np :D
[15:42] <n8tuser> GHRockerTaps09-> try to boot from livecd and see if it works first
[15:42] <CSWookie> blizzkid: Yeah, I was hoping to avoide that.  However, it's looking like that's what I'm gonna do.
[15:43] <gondim> n8tuser: rebooting and now free show me: Swap:     2625528      0   2625528
[15:43] <ccooke> brotkasten: linux can boot and find things by uuid. grub already *does* find its root by the old-style hd0,x
[15:43] <GHRockerTaps09> where can i get livecd for 9.10?
[15:43] <kevin009> i have another box where I installed 9.04 with ext4 and upgraded it to 9.10 rc and i don't think it has the problem
[15:43] <dual> I upgraded to 9.10 today, but now my mouse lags when I preform keyboard shortcuts like ctrl+c and such. Any ideas why?
[15:43] <GHRockerTaps09> the one that was released today
[15:43] <blizzkid> GHRockerTaps09: www.ubuntu.com
[15:43] <th1> GHRockerTaps09, www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu
[15:43] <ActionParsnip1> !downloads | GHRockerTaps09
[15:43] <CSWookie> I suppose in that case I will once again avoid distribution upgrade.
[15:43] <GHRockerTaps09> thanks
[15:43] <ActionParsnip1> !download
[15:43] <ccooke> but grub *ALSO* searches by uuid and fails. and I can't see a way to disable that that won't be overwritten by an update... which means the computer becomes a time bomb that'll summon me back up here to fix it.
[15:44] <sin7ax> Ok, i found them in ~/.gvfs  --> if i want to mount foo to /mnt/t what's the command??
[15:44] <ccooke> What's more, I can't see where this search is even coming from in the config
[15:44] <xukun_> do I install the nvidia 185 driver version or the 190 driver version. I have nvida 9400 onboard gpu
[15:44] <LuYu> in 9.04, i cant get SCIM to work with QT apps
[15:44] <ActionParsnip1> sin7ax: you could symlink the folder
[15:44] <LuYu> why is this?
[15:44] <Guest80925> hey guys, I'm on Ubuntu 9.10 on a virtual machine (virtualbox) on a mac 10.6 (snow leopard) host and I'm trying to share files from my host to Ubuntu. can someone help me out?
[15:44] <LuYu> is it a bug or a missing package?
[15:44] <sin7ax> symlink?
[15:44] <ActionParsnip1> xukun_: the 185 is the newest stable, 190 is beta
[15:44] <CVirus> I just installed amarok on ubuntu and mp3 is not working while I have ubuntu-restricted-extras installed .. what could be wrong ?
[15:45] <xukun_> ActionParsnip1, stable it is
[15:45] <jacquesdupontd> if i had to make a difference between this 9.10 (updated from 9.04 that's maybe why itsucks) and Windows Seven i know that i would choose Windows Seven but would prefer to be on ubuntu, hope fresh install will do the trick even if i don't know what could have been wrong i already made 6 updates since i'm on ubuntu 6.10
[15:45] <ActionParsnip1> sin7ax: yeah it will make a "folder" that links to the folder in ~/.gvfs
[15:45] <sin7ax> do i need to know the inode in order to do that?
[15:45] <ActionParsnip1> sin7ax: the OS will think the link is a folder but its just a link
[15:46] <sin7ax> ActionParsnip: what's the command?
[15:46] <ActionParsnip1> sin7ax: no, just run: sudo ln -s ~/.gvfs/what/ever /mnt/whatever
[15:46] <szeck> Hi guys i have updated to KArmic and i cant' load the os? Anyone can help?
[15:46] <sin7ax> awesome
[15:46] <sin7ax> thanks
[15:46] <brotkasten> ccooke: i know that you can use UUIDs and I know ubuntu does ... but if it does not work for you at the moment i suggest to use a workaround until you find the problem
[15:46] <AceKing> How do I create a file in a folder that requires root privileges?
[15:46] <brotkasten> ccooke: 1st aid so to speak
[15:46] <n8tuser> gondim-> has it affected your system or not?
[15:46] <ActionParsnip1> sin7ax: its really handy if you have USB drives and you want a folder for it in ~
[15:46] <szeck> Hi guys i have just updated to KArmic and i cant' load the os! Anyone can help?
[15:47] <dual> Anyone else experiencing mouse lag in 9.10?
[15:47] <Guest80925> hey guys, I'm on Ubuntu 9.10 on a virtual machine (virtualbox) on a mac 10.6 (snow leopard) host and I'm trying to share files from my host to Ubuntu. can someone help me out? I installed the guest addons and even restarted my virtual pc, but i just cant seem to get it to show up. mounting isn't working, either
[15:47] <AceKing> dual, I am noticing a lag also
[15:47] <szeck> Hi guys i have just updated to KArmic and i cant' load the os! Anyone can help?
[15:47] <nameless`> Guest80925, !!
[15:47] <th1> CVirus, sudo aptitude install phonon-backend-xine libxine1-ffmpeg
[15:47] <nameless`> Guest80925, help me please :)
[15:47] <th1> CVirus, and see bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351319
[15:48] <dual> AceKing, intel & nvidia?
[15:48] <ActionParsnip1> Guest80925: you can setup folders that appear as devices in the virtualbox
[15:48] <gondim> n8tuser: swap is a logical volume. Cn this be?
[15:48] <AceKing> dual, nvidia
[15:48] <gondim> n8tuser: swap is a logical volume. Can this be?
[15:48] <nameless`> Guest80925, i have rEFIT installed, but i can't boot on the live cd, when i start the "install without hurting your computer", the screen goes dark and it stops
[15:48] <m4t> is there a way to get a samba (cifs) 'gvfs' mount to be persistent through multiple logins/boots?
[15:48] <ccooke> brotkasten: there *is* no workaround for this at the moment.
[15:48] <dual> AceKing, me too. I've installed the same driver as I used in 9.04, but it didn't lag then
[15:48] <dual> AceKing, I mean, it didn't lag in 9.04
[15:49] <szeck> Hi guys i have just updated to KArmic and i cant' load the os! Anyone can help?
[15:49] <Mene-Mene> I recently installed a version of Windows 7 RC1, however upon installation it did not add itself to GRUB, attempting to follow these instructions as closely as I could, I get an error which I believe says that the sector is not found. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1036547
[15:49] <erUSUL> !details | szeck
[15:49] <th1> szeck, what's the error message
[15:49] <brotkasten> ccooke: how do you boot right now?
[15:49] <ActionParsnip1> m4t: you can use smbfs in fstab
[15:49] <ccooke> brotkasten: the grub menu contains a search by uuid for the filesystem containing the kernel. This search is what fails. I can't see where that search comes from
[15:49] <MrNaz_cic> how's the esata support in 9.10 ?
[15:49] <m4t> ActionParsnip1 , i'd like to use the gvfs mount helper
[15:49] <AceKing> dual, are you using wireless or wired mouse?
[15:49] <m4t> and have it in ~/.gvfs, etc
[15:49] <XVampireX> Say, I'm using nvidia drivers from repos, is there any way to use vsync on? cause there's tearing in videos and games...
[15:49] <ActionParsnip1> m4t: not used it personally
[15:49] <brotkasten> ccooke: can you pastebin your grub config ?
[15:49] <ccooke> brotkasten: I boot, watch grub fail (and not give me a menu). Reboot, get a menu, edit the search-by-uuid out, boot. That works.
[15:49] <CrocoJet> when happen one kerneloops after resume from supend mode, is necessary reboot of computer ?
[15:49] <erUSUL> XVampireX: use nvidia-settings ?
[15:50] <m4t> normally you'd do places->connect to server
[15:50] <m4t> and it'd appear on the desktop
[15:50] <naser67> i'm using xampp 1.7.1 and i wanna install apc extension on it
[15:50] <naser67> what should i do?
[15:50] <m4t> but it doesn't remain
[15:50] <thor^^> is it possible to expand the crypto disk on the usb boot disk?
[15:50] <ActionParsnip1> m4t: sure but its not so accessible at cli
[15:50] <devslash> im getting error 15 file not found when i boot ubuntu. can anyone help me figure out how to make ubuntu boot ?
[15:50] <erUSUL> CrocoJet: if the machine does not respond seems like the only way...
[15:50] <module000> ccooke: stop using UUID and jsut specify with the hd(x) syntax
[15:50] <szeck> Hi guys i haafter the first white image the screen turn black thl, erUSUL
[15:50] <m4t> ActionParsnip1 sure it is
[15:50] <m4t> cd .gvfs/share name
[15:50] <szeck> after the first white image the screen turn black thl, erUSUL
[15:50] <dual> AceKing, wired. Logitech G5
[15:51] <erUSUL> szeck: can you boot into recovery mode ?
[15:51] <th1> XVampireX, go to System->Administation->Nvidia X SServer Settings and then goto X Screen 0 and OpenGL settings and tick "Sync to VBlank"
[15:51] <ActionParsnip1> m4t: nice, i just use fstab and its there like a folder like any other partition
[15:51] <m4t> heh ActionParsnip1 k, thanks
[15:51] <awop> Hey everyone.
[15:51] <szeck> erUSUL i can try......
[15:51] <CrocoJet> 21896 WARN_ON's reported
[15:51] <CrocoJet> suspend_test_finish(resume devices)		10767	
[15:51] <CrocoJet> wow
[15:51] <szeck> erUSUL i have to try?
[15:51] <DareDevil0> Is there any screenlet or something that permit have msn conversations in the gnome-desktop background?
[15:51] <Tuvok> Does anyone know how to change the password which is inserted during installation?
[15:51] <Mene-Mene> Resuts.txt of Boot Info: http://pastebin.com/d352f1659 menu.lst http://pastebin.com/d593b25d3
[15:51] <XVampireX> thl, thanks
[15:52] <ActionParsnip1> Tuvok: passwd
[15:52] <devslash> im getting error 15 file not found when i boot ubuntu. can anyone help me figure out how to make ubuntu boot ?
[15:52] <AceKing> dual, ok, I am using a wireless.. I switched with my another mouse and I'm working fine
[15:52] <ccooke> http://pastebin.com/m6d72a961
[15:52] <ActionParsnip1> Tuvok: will allow you to change your logon password
[15:52] <n8tuser> gondim-> i believe you can use an LVM for swap,  but again is it affecting your system operations or now?
[15:52] <n8tuser> not*
[15:52] <Tuvok> ActionParsnip1 thanks
[15:52] <ccooke> brotkasten: the search I'm referring to is line 52
[15:52] <dual> AceKing, usb?
[15:52] <erUSUL> szeck: maybe the fix Xserver helps
[15:52] <ActionParsnip1> Tuvok: to change another users password use: sudo passwd <username>
[15:52] <n8tuser> devslash-> missing stage1_5  is whats causing that
[15:52] <vato> Is there any way to get a walkthrough on kernel configuration (i'm patching a kernel with grsec and I don't think i've done it properly..)
[15:52] <awop> Anyone have issues with the kernel after upgrading to ubuntu 9.10 from 9.04?
[15:52] <AceKing> dual, I switched with another wireless from my laptop
[15:52] <amerinese> Upgarding to Karmic but the installer is now stuck on the Adobe flashplugin installer, what should I do?
[15:52] <szeck> erUSUL fix what????????
[15:52] <raid0ff> erUSUL:  ty my friend tucan does the job perfectly
[15:53] <dual> AceKing, ok, heard of anyone else having this problem?
[15:53] <th1> vato: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile
[15:53] <bazhang> amerinese, in the command line?
[15:53] <AceKing> dual, not yet
[15:53] <erUSUL> szeck: in recovery mode there is an option to fix the gui
[15:53] <wers> cant play flash vids on karmic 64. youtube doesnt play even if i click the play button. any idea/
[15:53] <AceKing> dual, do you have another mouse to try?
[15:53] <vato> thank you =)
[15:53] <erUSUL> raid0ff: no problem
[15:53] <ccooke> brotkasten: you can see that linux is being passed actual devices - I disabled root=UUID in /etc/default/grub. That didn't have any effect on this search, though.
[15:53] <amerinese> bazhang: I'm installing from GUI
[15:53] <amerinese> Standard Gnome desktop
[15:53] <dual> AceKing, hmm, yes, I'll try another one later.
[15:53] <szeck> erUSUL where is the option how to do that
[15:53] <CVirus> th1: thanks a lot
[15:54] <szeck> erUSUL anh why fix the gui
[15:54] <erUSUL> szeck: booting into recovery mode from grub menu
[15:54] <AceKing> dual, OK, I hope it works for you
[15:54] <module000> ccooke: how did you gen your grub.cnf?
[15:54] <dual> AceKing, yes, it's annoying
[15:54] <erUSUL> szeck: wll black screen usually means foobared X server
[15:54] <awop> Anyone have issues with the kernel after upgrading to ubuntu 9.10 from 9.04? *PM Me please*
[15:54] <th1> CVirus, you're welcome
[15:54] <module000> ccooke: with grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg    ?
[15:54] <erUSUL> !pm | awop
[15:54] <ccooke> module000: I installed Ubuntu. That's what I got.
[15:54] <ActionParsnip1> awop: keep it in the channel, it may help others
[15:54] <module000> ccooke: did you upgrade ubuntu or install from scratch? (this is relevant)
[15:55] <thor^^> is it possible to expand the usb disk you create with the gui from a live disk? I'd like it to use all 16GB instead of just 4
[15:55] <szeck> erUSUL foobared? what does it means?
[15:55] <awop> oh
[15:55] <awop> ok
[15:55] <jacquesdupontd> let go for a fresh install i count on ubuntu not to deceive me :)
[15:55] <ccooke> module000: yeah, this is a fresh install
[15:55] <MK13> how can i modify the entries in the grub boot loader?
[15:55] <erUSUL> szeck: fscked? broken? etc
[15:55] <module000> ccooke: and what has happened since that install that has caused grub to stop?
[15:55] <v4vijayakumar> hi, Is there any option to upgrade from locally downloaded packages ?!
[15:55] <ccooke> module000: (to fix *different* problems with an upgrade.)
[15:55] <Mikhy> Ciao
[15:55] <module000> ccooke: or has it not worked at all
[15:55] <ccooke> module000: grub never worked
[15:55] <szeck> erUSUL ok i ca give it a try
[15:55] <brotkasten> ccooke: if you comment it out in your config and save it then is uncommented again when rebooting?
[15:55] <szeck> erUSUL later bro
[15:55] <dj_> hey how do i use rar to rar iso file with volumes
[15:55] <module000> ccooke: So when you remove the UUID tab on line 52 it boots?
[15:55] <ccooke> brotkasten: until the next grub update.
[15:56] <ccooke> module000: yes
[15:56] <AceKing> dual, mine was even double clicking on it's own
[15:56] <You_> hi..where can i get assistance with freezes?
[15:56] <ccooke> brotkasten: this is my dad's PC. I live a few hundred miles away, and grub is not really remote-fixable
[15:56] <dual> AceKing, I haven't experiencing that, only lag
[15:56] <ActionParsnip1> You_: does it unfreeze?
[15:56] <You> nope
[15:56] <brotkasten> ccooke: ahhh :)
[15:57] <module000> ccooke: can you check that the UUID there matches the /dev/disk/by-uuid of the disk it should be looking at?
[15:57] <ccooke> (... and explaining to him how to fix it over a phone would be Pain. He's mostly deaf)
[15:57] <ActionParsnip1> You: not helpful :(
[15:57] <ccooke> module000: it does.
[15:57] <devslash> my ubuntu system is hosed
[15:57] <gondim> n8tuser: not affect now
[15:57] <devslash> it wont boot any more
[15:57] <ccooke> module000: checed that first time I booted :-)
[15:57] <gburton> devslash: why did you put a hose inside your computer you fool
[15:57] <gondim> n8tuser: I have memory :)
[15:57] <SGM> I am not going back to a 8x version to see if it works.
[15:57] <amerinese> bazhang: Finally timed out, a little bit strange that the download timeout is so long...
[15:57] <SGM> but machine freezes right after login
[15:58] <Loki> Good After, I upgraded my ubuntu system to 9.10 and now when I start to play DVDs, everything is in a bluetint, and with messed up audio.
[15:58] <AceKing> dual, I may have had a different problem then. It may have just been my mouse going bad
[15:58] <module000> ccooke:  i can't say why it doens'tw ork, but obviously you want to stop the default behavior of it adding the 'search' line and specifying UUID's i would guess?
[15:58] <dual> AceKing, hmm, hard to say.
[15:58] <Mikhy> where is italian ubuntu servers? ='(
[15:58] <ccooke> module000: yes... if I could find where that came from. I'm trying to trace the generation files now
[15:58] <dj_> hey how do i use rar to rar iso file with volumes
[15:58] <civciv> Anyone care to help me out with a very complex and odd issue?
[15:58] <v4vijayakumar> hi, Is there any option to upgrade from locally downloaded packages ?!
[15:58] <module000> ccooke: i'm looking also, but most of the generation is done by rules in /etc/grub.d
[15:58] <c3l_> can I get a virtual machine (running win7) to read my local files? (pref ext3 fs, if not its still good if it can access a ntfs fs)
[15:59] <MK13> how do you add an OS to the grub menu?
[15:59] <ccooke> module000: it's not in there.
[15:59] <civciv> Network + windows + linux + server side .exe + wine to make that .exe work
[15:59] <ccooke> module000: no search in that directory. I'm now tracing sourced files
[15:59] <troynt> How do you change the default pgp keyserver in Ubuntu?
[15:59] <ccooke> got it.
[15:59] <n8tuser> gondim-> so do not worry about it then
[16:00] <civciv> any idea where can I look up for the mentioned issue?
[16:00] <troynt> keyserver.ubuntu.com seems down
[16:00] <Loki> :o
[16:00] <module000> ccooke: where was it?
[16:00] <ccooke> module000: the search is added in /usr/lib/grub/grub-mkconfig_lib
[16:00] <civciv> web? irc? winehq? forums?
[16:00] <gondim> n8tuser: ok. thanks :)
[16:00] <ccooke> module000: inside the function prepare_grub_to_access_device ()
[16:01] <Loki> Any ideas?
[16:01] <module000> ccooke: i see it now..now you can stop it generating those.  still begs to question why they malfunctioned though
[16:01] <ccooke> I think I see the safe option
[16:01] <ccooke> I need to remove the UUID
[16:01] <ccooke> editing this file isn't useful - it'll be replaced by an upgrade
[16:02] <dcibelios> Hello to everyone
[16:02] <ccooke> but if I remove the UUID, it shouldn't add the search
[16:02] <dcibelios> do you know if netbook remix has an upgrade to 9.10?
[16:02] <johnmn3> hello
[16:02] <janis96> hi there
[16:02] <module000> ccooke: when you say remove the UUID, you mean the noUUID option in /etc/defaults/grub?
[16:02] <BoredKender> module000, how does one do that? i had no problems in Jaunty
[16:02] <Mene-Mene> I recently installed a version of Windows 7 RC1, however upon installation it did not add itself to GRUB, attempting to follow these instructions as closely as I could, I get an error which I believe says that the sector is not found. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1036547 Resuts.txt of Boot Info: http://pastebin.com/d352f1659 menu.lst http://pastebin.com/d593b25d3
[16:02] <johnmn3> I seem to have broken my apt
[16:02] <module000> BoredKender: system-preferences-sound, poke around in there
[16:02] <joaopinto> Mene-Mene, are you using ubuntu 9.10 ? grub 2 ?
[16:03] <thux> Hi, got karmic on netbook wind u100 after boot it flash screen brightness? jaunty didn't
[16:03] <BoredKender> there is no sound in system - prefferences
[16:03] <c3l_> is there any working solution to read files in my ubuntu from windows?
[16:03] <ccooke> module000: No, I mean see if I can remove the UUID from the filesystem itself
[16:03] <johnmn3> when I do "sudo aptitude install vlc" I get back "Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "vlc""
[16:03] <ccooke> module000: not sure if I can (safely) but it seems my only option
[16:03] <yfk> Is the 9.10 RC the same as final?
[16:03] <David1> No
[16:04] <module000> ccooke: hrm...i don't know how to do that, never tried
[16:04] <yfk> David1, where can I find a list of changes?
[16:04] <bazhang> yfk, update and it will be
[16:04] <Mene-Mene> joaopinto: Ubuntu 9.10, not sure where to check the version of grub.
[16:04] <awozniak> Is there a way to upgrade from 9.10 RC to 9.10 ?
[16:04] <[manas]> after upgrading from 9.4 to 9.10 my video codecs are gone, where i can download new ones???
[16:04] <bunjee> how do i get flash player working on 64 bit firefox i keep getting an architecture error trying to install the player
[16:04] <bazhang> awozniak, just keep updating
[16:04] <janis96> of course the normal update
[16:04] <Pici> !final | awozniak
[16:04] <izzi> Mene-Mene: uname -r
[16:04] <ccooke> module000: ... I think I'm going to kludge it.
[16:04] <joaopinto> Mene-Mene, open a terminal and run: sudo os-prober && sudo update-grub
[16:04] <BlouBlou> [manas]: from  medibuntu repos
[16:04] <Mene-Mene> joaopinto: 9.04... I thought for sure it was 9.10
[16:04] <ccooke> module000: hello, 'chattr +i' :-)
[16:05] <yfk> bazhang, I have a CD that I downloaded and wish to install it on several machines. I'm not sure the changes are crucial so would rather find a list of changes...
[16:05] <th1> [manas] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[16:05] <tesuki> How do I get the volume applet in 9.10 that was default in 9.04? (I can't rightclick and "remove from panel")
[16:05] <johnmn3> is there a "sudo aptitude unbreak-myself" command?
[16:05] <izzi> bunjee: apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras or kubuntu-restricted-extras
[16:05] <joaopinto> Mene-Mene, oh, so please ignore, my incructions were for 9.10
[16:05] <Mene-Mene> sorry.
[16:06] <ccooke> right, time to reboot and see if that was everything wrong...
[16:06] <Mene-Mene> joaopinto: 2.6.28-13-generic for grub.
[16:06] <levu> hi, i have grafic problems with libnotify and "ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility M6 LY" as grafic card
[16:06] <szeck> erUSUL hei i'm in the recovery mode in a irc for terminal ca you hear me?
[16:07] <awop> Ok, sorry guys.
[16:07] <dios_mio> levu, my libnotify makes the popup appear not exactly at the corner
[16:07] <levu> the notifys are shown as a black rounded rectangle with white pixels in it
[16:08] <levu> no text visible
[16:08] <awop> Anyways, I just updated from 9.04 to 9.10 and now it won't boot. It is telling me I have to install the kernel first.
[16:08] <Sypher|NL> hmmhesays-, anyone else experiencing problems with MySQL when going from 9.04 -> 9.10? I am unable to start MySQL-server
[16:08] <khanhpt> quit
[16:08] <Sypher|NL> hmm stupid tab completion
[16:08] <chompy> I just did a fresh install of 9.10 on a laptop and it doesn't want to open any flash drives or external hd
[16:08] <SAIDias> Howdy, will someone help me with my crontab file?  I can't seem to figure out why its not running a script.....
[16:08] <brunop> anyone using Jaunty/Karmic with an Intel G43 chipset ... ?
[16:09] <MK13> how do i add an OS to the boot menu?
[16:09] <awop> Anyone have any ideas as to what happened?
[16:09] <SAIDias> Howdy, will someone help me with my crontab file?  I can't seem to figure out why its not running a script.....http://pastebin.com/m2495227c
[16:09] <haskellnoob> Hi. There is an application called "trayer" that I have been using with Ubuntu, and which has gone away when I updated from 9.04 to 9.10. There seems to be no 9.10 package for trayer, to go by this page : http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=trayer . Is there a way I can install trayer on 9.10, perhaps from a package for 9.04 or some such? Thanks.
[16:09] <san2345> module000, wer can i get a .deb package for rp
[16:09] <tesuki> #
[16:09] <Dergel> hey there. i get the error 15 after installing grub2 on my system... I started with LiveCD an tryed update-grub but it says "Cannot find list of partitions." but my /boot/grub/device.map is correct.
[16:09] <chambera> hai
[16:09] <Mene-Mene> izzi: 2.6.28-13-generic for grub.
[16:10] <ccooke> module000: and it works.
[16:10] <lwells> is it wise to upgrade to 9.10 through the Update Manager??
[16:10] <[manas]> th1, i intalled packedges but still doesnt work
[16:10] <Tiders-> Is UCP worth the 350 dollars to get it?
[16:10] <sin7ax> what's the command to remove a symlink?
[16:10] <joaopinto> lwells, yes
[16:10] <ccooke> Horribly kludged, but it works
[16:10] <BlouBlou> lwells: yes, it's more recommendable than with alternate CD
[16:10] <lwells> Anything I should be careful about?
[16:10] <th1> sin7ax, rm
[16:11] <san2345> wer can i get a .deb for roaing penguin
[16:11] <awop> I just updated from 9.04 to 9.10 and now it won't boot. It is telling me I have to install the kernel first. Anyone have any ideas why?
[16:11] <c3l_> is there any working solution to read files in my ubuntu from windows?
[16:11] <BlouBlou> lwells: maybe you should backup your important files
[16:11] <san2345> or can anyone help me to build the source for rp
[16:11] <shahdharmit> I m going to install Karmic on my laptop. I already am running Fedora 11. What care should I take so that there's no problem in GRUB and that I can load both OSes perfectly?
[16:11] <Dergel> who can help me with my grub problem?
[16:11]  * Tetsu1992 Ubuntu 9.10 got someproblem on laptop
[16:11] <Sarge_TJ_> Sarge_TJ, ok
[16:11] <c3l_> Dergel, whats the problem?
[16:11] <joaopinto> shahdharmit, there is a grub linux os prober that should detect both systems
[16:12] <Appiah> Hello I upgraded from Jaunty to Karmic , now my Wired and Wireless connection wont work , ifconfig -a just shows loopback
[16:12] <[manas]> th1 i installed w64codecs,libdvdcss2
[16:12] <yos> How do I make the task bar re-appear ?
[16:12] <fission6> where is pidgin installed by default on ubuntu
[16:12] <san2345> please some one atleast say if there are the build essentials present to build the roaring penguin package
[16:12] <skyred> my Ubuntu Update Manager hasn't notified me about 9.10. why?
[16:13] <Dergel> c3l_: i get the error 15. i tried update-grub with a live-cd but it says "cannot find list of partitions!"
[16:13] <th1> [manas], install w32codecs as well
[16:13] <shahdharmit> joaopinto: Ok. When I installed 9.04, I had to work around alot and had to manually modify the conf file whenever there was a kernel update in Fedora
[16:13] <lwells> Is Karmic a stable platform now, or should I wait?
[16:13] <joaopinto> shahdharmit, you could try to run "sudo os-prober" frm the livecd, to check if it will detected your other partition
[16:13] <Appiah> fission6: /usr/bin/pidgin ?
[16:13] <levu> who can help me with my grafic problems?
[16:13] <IdleOne> skyred: what version you running now?
[16:13] <[manas]> th1 but i got 64 bit machine
[16:13] <janis96> no pdigin :'(
[16:13] <shahdharmit> ***Tetsu1992 : What problem does it have?
[16:13] <th1> [manas], and restart your media player if you didn't already ..
[16:13] <Blu3_Scr33n> hello
[16:13] <th1> [manas], you need both the codecs packs
[16:13] <jpds> lwells: Yes.
[16:13] <skyred> IdleOne, 9.04
[16:13] <joaopinto> shahdharmit, well, I don't know how "smart" os-prober is with a Fedora install :)
[16:13] <quickvfr> I just upgraded from 9.04 to 9.10 (i386).  On boot, I get to the splash screen, it flickers black, goes back to the splash; over and over, etc.  Any suggestions?  My AMD64 machine upgraded without issue.
[16:13] <tesuki> fission6: pidgin is removed on 9.10, empathy is the new IM client.
[16:13] <fission6> Appiah: fission6: /usr/bin/pidgin ? nope
[16:13] <MK13> !grub
[16:13] <Blu3_Scr33n> 9.10 rocks
[16:14] <lwells> jpds: It is stable?
[16:14] <spowers> i can't turn off compiz animations module in 9.10, anyone else notice this?
[16:14] <[manas]> th1 thanks stupid me
[16:14] <IdleOne> skyred: look and see in the Software sources if you have your updates set to Normal releases
[16:14] <MK13> how can i add a new OS to the grub menu?
[16:14] <Appiah> fission6: thats where it is
[16:14] <fission6> nah i have pidin i can find its path and its plugin folder for that mater
[16:14] <jpds> lwells: It's been released and officially supported.
[16:14] <th1> [manas], you're welcome
[16:14] <sin7ax> th1: rm ln -s??
[16:14] <Blu3_Scr33n> very good indeed
[16:14] <janis96> tesuki: and empathy has no IRC tools
[16:14] <joaopinto> pidgin is available, it is just not installed by default
[16:14] <shahdharmit> joaopinto: :) I'll give it a try. Thanks.
[16:14] <th1> sin7ax, just "rm NAMEOFLINK"
[16:15] <EvanCarroll> pidgin > empathy
[16:15] <EvanCarroll> that new program sucks
[16:15] <EvanCarroll> what an unpolished piece.
[16:15] <Appiah> pre karmic
[16:15] <lwells> jpds: I am more concerned with the upgrade process
[16:15] <th1> it will just delete the symlink
[16:15] <skyred> IdleOne, checked. it's normal releases and I ran sudo apt-get dist-upgrade once, can't find 9.10
[16:15] <AppleBoy> is there any difference between the desktop and server version in tweaks at the network layer?
[16:15] <theclaw> hi
[16:15] <fission6> okay the program is there /usr/bin (as expected) trying to find the plugin folde
[16:15] <janis96> hi
[16:15] <jumpkick> Is there a way to get variables loaded into the ENV during init?  i.e. does /etc/profile get loaded for scripts executing from the /etc/init.d/* directory?
[16:15] <Athena28> Hola
[16:15] <FloodBot2> EvanCarroll: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:15] <theclaw> how do I enable xsplash on karmic? (I upgraded from jaunty). Does it work with radeon graphiccards?
[16:15] <th1> EvanCarroll, go to Ubuntu Software Centre and reinstall pidgin :)
[16:15] <janis96> EvanCarroll: youre right
[16:15] <sin7ax> i know this is gonna sound stupid... but how do i know what the name of the link is...? and is it stored in a file like 'env' somewhere?
[16:15] <LjL> EvanCarroll: please, discuss that in #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:15] <shahdharmit> For the first time I am excited for Ubuntu. I've been using Fedora since I shifted to Linux about 8 months back.
[16:15] <LjL> (others: same)
[16:16] <EvanCarroll> th1: the upgrade didn't uninstall it.
[16:16] <brunop> ... is definitely G43 not supported by ubuntu ?
[16:16] <th1> sin7ax, pls describe what it is you're trying to do in more detail because I'm not sure I follow you
[16:16] <IdleOne> skyred: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo do-release-upgrade
[16:16] <erUSUL> brunop: intel chips are well supported by ubuntu. but jaunty has issues with them
[16:16] <erUSUL> !intel | brunop
[16:17] <brunop> erUSUL: and karmic has more...
[16:17] <sshc> Dergel: devslash: if you haven't solved this already, you probably forgot to choose a device (with spacebar) when you were configuring it
[16:17] <ShadowHawkBV> Anyone know how to get "System/Administration/HardWare drivers" to reset itself and show the restricted drivers that are installed?
[16:17] <henryklyczkowski> 9.10 Have many bugs
[16:17] <awop> I just updated from 9.04 to 9.10 and now it won't boot. It is telling me I have to install the kernel first. Anyone know why?
[16:17] <[manas]> th1 look sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[16:17] <[manas]> Reading package lists... Done
[16:17] <[manas]> Building dependency tree
[16:17] <[manas]> Reading state information... Done
[16:17] <[manas]> E: Couldn't find package w32codecs
[16:17] <FloodBot2> [manas]: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:17] <sin7ax> th1: i created a link from ~/.gvfs/foo to /mnt/k   what i really wanted was ~/.gvfs/foo/k to /mnt/k
[16:17] <erUSUL> brunop: anecdotal evidence (yours) is not evidence at all ;)
[16:17] <IdleOne> !medibuntu | [manas]
[16:17] <skyred> IdleOne, sudo do-release-upgrade seems to be working
[16:17] <tesuki> janis96: you can connect to IRC with it. you just have to add a new IRC account.
[16:17] <shahdharmit> Oh, does BCM4312 work well under Karmic? I needed to download some stuffs to make it work on Fedora.
[16:17] <Travis-42> how do I set the user for a cron.daily script, or should I use /etc/crontab or the crontab -e command (a little confused)
[16:18] <th1> sin7ax then just rm /mnt/k
[16:18] <IdleOne> skyred: glad it did
[16:18] <i_is_broke> manas, try sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[16:18] <erUSUL> shahdharmit: you have to install b43-fwcutter package online to dl the firmware
[16:18] <[manas]> IdleOne, i add it
[16:18] <janis96> tesuki: oh youre right
[16:18] <wsch> so why is 64bit 9.10 not listed?
[16:18] <sshc> Dergel: devslash: to fix your grub 15 error, you need to find a way to boot, and then "apt-get purge grub-pc && apt-get install grub-pc" (or grub2 if that's what you installed)
[16:18] <shahdharmit> erUSUL: Okay...
[16:18] <erUSUL> wsch: where ?
[16:18] <Guest69371> hi. I have run the upgrade from 8.4 to 9.10 and all proceeded without errors however I have a problem; when i get to my desktop I'm limited to a 800x600 display. when i use the display tool from system->preferences it does not give me any options other than 600x480 and 800x600. I see that the monitor is not detected however hitting the detect monitor button does nothing :( how i can i get a decent resolution please? note i'm not after anything extraordi
[16:18] <Guest69371> nary just 1280x1024 would be nice :)
[16:18] <janis96> but i think pidgin is better
[16:18] <wsch> erUSUL, homepage
[16:18] <sin7ax> "rm cannont remove /mnt/k: Is a directory
[16:18] <skyred> IdleOne, thanks
[16:18] <erUSUL> wsch: amd64 == 64 bits
[16:19] <brunop> erUSUL: the symptoms described are not what i get since the jaunty release...
[16:19] <sshc> Dergel: devslash: you can burn either an ubuntu CD or a supergrub CD
[16:19] <erUSUL> !cli | sin7ax
[16:19] <wsch> erUSUL, if i click download theres no option to choose 64 bit, i know amd64 is 64bit
[16:19] <LjL> ehm, how do i get to know which X video card driver my Hardy is actually using, given it's left unspecified in xorg.conf?
[16:19] <devslash> ok
[16:19] <EvanCarroll> you know, there is a certain quality of stupid in FloodBot2 reprimanding users publically for conversing publically in order to eliminating traffic -- I mean out of all things that should go over pvmsg that is the poster child.
[16:19] <wsch> erUSUL, i know i can go trough a mirron and get it there
[16:19] <Pici> LjL: Look at your xorg log file
[16:19] <wsch> erUSUL, i just think its a really retarded decision not to list it on the homepage
[16:19] <th1> [manas], sorry you're right
[16:19] <LjL> EvanCarroll: feel free to discuss that in #ubuntu-ops. there is a reasonfor that, anyway
[16:20] <Dergel> anyone can help me with my grub2 error 15?
[16:20] <stefano_> ciao
[16:20] <[manas]> th1 look http://paste.ubuntu.com/305179/
[16:20] <stefano_> !list
[16:20] <boraklavun> hello everyone
[16:20] <sshc> Dergel: can you scroll up, and read what I said?
[16:20] <erUSUL> LjL: grep -i driver /var/log/Xorg.0.log should shed some light
[16:20] <stefano_> msg ubottu !bot
[16:20] <tom___> hi guys...  short question:  i made a comparison kubuntu vs. ubuntu on my laptop...  and ubuntu turned out to be MUCH faster....  Does anyone have an explanation for this?
[16:20] <erUSUL> wsch: ok; understood
[16:20] <th1> [manas], why are you downloading it manually?
[16:20] <Dergel> ohh sorry... yes
[16:20] <HorizonXP> my touchpad is shaky since upgrading to karmic; help?
[16:21] <sshc> Dergel: you pretty much need to reinstall grub-pc
[16:21] <tom___> (both with desktop effects enabled etc...
[16:21] <LjL> stefano_: con un / all'inizio. per parlare in italiano, /join #ubuntu-it
[16:21] <boraklavun>  ı would like to ask som  question about ubuntu 9.10  amd 64 bit
[16:21] <module000> ccooke: excellent...just got back to the office so a delayed response ;]
[16:21] <[manas]> th1 trying to be cool
[16:21] <sshc> Dergel: your mistake is that you didn't select any options in the device thing
[16:21] <[manas]> th1 oll
[16:21] <th1> [manas], if you *really* want to install 32 bit packages you can do it with --force-architecture
[16:21] <[manas]> th1 lol
[16:21] <sshc> Dergel: (press spacebar to select it)
[16:21] <[manas]> th1 i just want to watch movie
[16:21] <bernardo_> hi guys, after upgrading to 9.10, my videos now got this very strong blue-ish color, what can I do?
[16:21] <boraklavun> first of all anyone installed 9.10 and how is the difference
[16:22] <LjL> erUSUL: i suppose "(II) NV: driver for NVIDIA chipsets: RIVA 128, RIVA TNT, RIVA TNT2" hints that i'm using "nv" rather than "nvidia"?
[16:22] <[manas]> th1 and i dont care if it 32 bit or 64
[16:22] <Dergel> well im already in with a ubuntucd...
[16:22]  * gburton adjusts bernardo_'s monitor connection
[16:22] <th1> [manas], if you just want to watch movie then follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[16:22] <gburton> there, done
[16:22] <_sana> I have a problem with ubuntu's clock; it changes from time to time, what can I do  ?why does it change ?
[16:22] <ShadowHawkBV> Anyone know how to get "System/Administration/HardWare drivers" to reset itself and show the restricted drivers that are installed?  I have the nvidia drivers installed, but because it doesn't show there, I can't get compiz to work.
[16:22] <HorizonXP> i upgraded to karmic, and my touchpad is now very shaky and jittery when i use it. any ideas on how to fix it?
[16:22] <bernardo_> gburton, only the videos, my monitor is OK, screen right now has the correct colors
[16:22] <LjL> _sana: changes like what? i'm not sure, but i think by default the ubuntu clock is supposed to be synced from the internet
[16:22] <bernardo_> but if I open up a video it has this blueish tone
[16:22] <sshc> Dergel: are you booted onto a live sesion?
[16:23] <_sana> LjL how can i stop being synced from the internet ?
[16:23] <[manas]> th1  i did i installed packageds but it same shi...
[16:23] <erUSUL> LjL: probably. the nvidia driver is more verbose :)
[16:23] <Dergel> yeah... im already chroot and so.
[16:23] <sshc> Dergel: I'd suggest burning supergrub
[16:23] <th1> [manas], which media player are you trying to use
[16:23] <marko-_-> i can't add mp3's to k3b, how do i fix that?
[16:23] <LjL> _sana: i'm not sure, there might be an option in the clock setting dialog, but i'm not on gnome and on an old ubuntu version so i don't really know
[16:23] <sshc> Dergel: if you're using your normal filesystem, you can reinstall it already
[16:23] <[manas]> th1 totem
[16:23] <marko-_-> i can't add mp3's to k3b, how do i fix that?
[16:24] <[manas]> th1 it played before
[16:24] <_sana> LjL thanks man
[16:24] <sshc> Dergel: you can burn supergrub and use it to boot normally
[16:24] <Dergel> complete reinstall?
[16:24] <KiiK> hi, i cannot find msgcat command on my Ubuntn, what can i do
[16:24] <sshc> Dergel: only reintally grub-pc
[16:24] <_sana> LjL looks like the timezone was not right
[16:24] <sshc> Dergel: nothing else
[16:24] <_sana> now all is ok :)
[16:24] <_sana> i had problems with messages on maillists :)
[16:24] <Guest69371> hi. I have upgraded 8.4 to 9.10 and i'm limited to 800x600 screen resolution. please how can i increase the resolution? system->preferences->display did not offer any other options
[16:24] <th1> [manas], try reinstallnig mplayer
[16:24] <Dergel> ok... ill try it
[16:24] <Jaredu> guest - make sure that you download the drivers for your graphics card
[16:25] <sshc> Dergel: you just need to boot normally, and then apt-get purge grub-pc && apt-get install grub-pc
[16:25] <[manas]> th1 how?
[16:25] <sshc> Dergel: you can use Synaptic Package Manager to reinstall it too
[16:25] <Dergel> all right thx ill try this
[16:25] <th1> [manas] sudo aptitude reinstall mplayer
[16:25] <erUSUL> KiiK: install gettext
[16:25] <Guest57640> hi! I have install ubuntu with wubi,dual boot with windows.When I am starting ubuntu it's freezes down do you know why? ( third time I am here today)
[16:25] <erUSUL> Guest69371: which graphic card ?
[16:25] <vadviktor1> What is the difference between deny and reject rules in iptables?
[16:25] <Guest69371> i do not know how to download drivers for my graphics card. it seems to be an intel
[16:26] <kwagga> he he... sounds like a lot of people have been having problems with the new display system... I'm also having a big issue.... xrandr keeps telling me it can't find a display....
[16:26] <quickvfr> I just upgraded from 9.04 to 9.10 (i386).  On boot, I get to the splash screen, it flickers black, goes back to the splash; over and over, etc.  Any suggestions?
[16:26] <brunop> erUSUL: i cannot test your solution because i need to upgrade from intrepid, so do you know when it will be fixed ?
[16:26] <ShadowHawkBV> Guest69371 type sudo nano /etc/etc/X11/xorg.conf and add the line "modes "1280x1024" to the Display Subsection"
[16:26] <bluegoon> Hey chaps, if you install ubuntu 9.10 from within Windows, does it still install the Ext4 file system?
[16:26] <KiiK> erUSUL: already installed, but still not found.
[16:26] <jonte> ShadowHawkBV: ok i will try
[16:26] <erUSUL> brunop: you are in intrepid ?
[16:26] <airstrike> someone convince me to download ubuntu instead of just debian
[16:27] <module000> airstrike: why?
[16:27] <joaopinto> !ot | airstrike
[16:27] <brunop> erUSUL: its the latests version that doesn't crash
[16:27] <airstrike> joaopinto: thanks
[16:27] <th1> airstrike because you ask inside #ubuntu?
[16:27] <Guest69371> from searching i tried to manually add a subsection display with modes 1280x1024 and 1024x768 but no change was evident
[16:27] <ShadowHawkBV> airstrike Ubuntu has a nicer user facing finish.
[16:27] <erUSUL> KiiK: well the jaunty package has the binary...
[16:27] <BoredKender> can anyone tell me why i don't have a "sound" option in my system - preferences on Karmic?
[16:27] <Kottisen> When I click "Activate" nothing happend, why? http://cdn.solidfiles.net/i/8b0c79b6b908c071babb0b896c6a77fc.png
[16:27] <BoredKender> Kottisen, you need to restart after you activate
[16:27] <Kottisen> i know
[16:27] <ShadowHawkBV> Guest69371 have you logged out and then back in after changing xorg.conf?
[16:28] <hatchetman82> anyone know where i can find xse (wrapper for xsendevent) for 9.10 ?
[16:28] <Guest69371> i rebooted
[16:28] <Kottisen> but should the busston just be without anything happend
[16:28] <Kottisen> it didn't say anything
[16:28] <bratiz> how can i get cd key for ubuntu PRo?
[16:28] <erUSUL> brunop: do a clean karmic install ?
[16:28] <[manas]> th1 same sh... i reintalled player codecs
[16:28] <th1> [manas], wat's the error msg?
[16:28] <IdleOne> bratiz: ask in #ubuntupro
[16:28] <vadviktor1> What is the difference between deny and reject rules in iptables?
[16:28] <ASrock> what is the command to quit X and then what is the one to start it?
[16:28] <ionut> when i wanted  to install linux ubuntu 9.10 i got this error: ISO linux 3.63 debian ....... boot: Couldn't find kernel image: linux
[16:28] <KiiK> erUSUL: I think i am already install it. 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. (9.10)
[16:28] <brunop> erUSUL: it doesn't even boot :)
[16:29] <erUSUL> vadviktor1: the msg sent back to the client i guess
[16:29] <bazhang> bratiz, there is not an Ubuntu Pro. please desist.
[16:29] <Mike_lifeguard> How can I check for and remove duplicate emails in Evolution/
[16:29] <erUSUL> brunop: then stay in intrepid... dunno what you want from me...
[16:29] <[manas]> th1 it no eror it just dont shows everything is in blue
[16:29] <vadviktor1> erUSUL: then on deny a reply is sent back, and reject is the silent version?
[16:29] <erUSUL> ASrock: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm sto|start|restart ?
[16:30] <ionut> when i wanted  to install linux ubuntu 9.10 i got this error: ISO linux 3.63 debian ....... boot: Couldn't find kernel image: linux
[16:30] <th1> [manas], ok ten its a different problem nothing todo with codec .. what graphics card do you have? and what drive?
[16:30] <outy> hey guys,  i installed ubuntu and now i cant get into windows,  i think the boot loader is pointing to the wrong partition, how can i edit the boot loader ?
[16:30] <erUSUL> vadviktor1: no drop is the silent version iirc
[16:30] <brunop> erUSUL: i just want to know _when_ the g43 will be suported
[16:30] <[manas]> th1 i got nvidia and driver dont know
[16:31] <th1> [manas], check in System->administration->hardware drivers if you got the recommended one
[16:31] <dj_> hey how can i rar an iso file
[16:31] <Guest69371> I also note that the xorg.conf from 8.40 is identical to the one 9.10 created
[16:31] <Dergel> sshc: I reinstalled grub-pc but at the end it also says "Cannot find list of partitions!"
[16:31] <erUSUL> brunop: as you can see becouse you are using it in intrepid it is already suported. if there are bugs in other version you have to report it and be willing to help the devs to see it fixed.
[16:31] <Guest69371> how can i set it to use the correct monitor please?
[16:32] <bratiz> dj_: i tolz u already !?
[16:32] <leaf-sheep> dj_: Why do you need to rar an ISO file? It is illogical. :3
[16:32] <erUSUL> brunop: just winning here wont help anyone including you. thanks
[16:32] <Guest69371> as the xorg log says that various resolutions are not available
[16:32] <[manas]> th1 yes its on the recomend one
[16:32] <dj_> leaf sheep: i want to split the iso file in smaller volumes
[16:32] <erUSUL> dj_: install the rar package then right click on the iso and choose add to archive
[16:32] <Rohtie> Can someone help me? I installed fedora 11 on my laptop which had ubuntu. Now it wont boot, not even load grub
[16:33] <bratiz> dj_: rar a -v20000 l33t-rele4ze.rar warez.iso
[16:33] <dj_> when i right click there is no option add to archive
[16:33] <brunop> erUSUL: it was reported, marked as important and never fixed
[16:33] <HorizonXP> no one has had problems with their touchpad in karmic?
[16:33] <sshc> Dergel: how did you boot?
[16:33] <IdleOne> Rohtie: #fedora should be able to help.
[16:33] <Dergel> i didnt boot it says it directly at the installation
[16:33] <antii> Hmm, I installed ubuntu (dualbooted) with windows 7 and then removed the ubuntu partition from windows, now I cant boot my windows, just getting: GRUB loading. error: no such partition, how can I get into windows again?
[16:34] <IdleOne> brunop: add a comment to that bug so the maintainer gets notified that it is still broken
[16:34] <linxeh> antii: reinstall the windows boot loader from the windows 7 cd
[16:34] <sshc> Dergel: how did you reinstall it if you didn't boot?
[16:34] <th1> antii, you deleted the partition grub was on and now it can't load. you need to reinstall the windows bootloader this is not a ubuntu question
[16:34] <erUSUL> antii: ask in ##windows how to restore the win7 bootloader from the win7 installcd
[16:34] <dj_> bratiz : v2000 is that just 20.mb
[16:34] <dj_> or its 200mb
[16:34] <MasterofPuppets> Hi all. Just a tiny question; how does one make OpenOffice do autospellcheck? I've enabled it, but misspelled words aren't being underlined.
[16:34] <bratiz> dj_: its 20mb
[16:34] <sshc> Dergel: you need to boot into your ubunt installation, and not into a live session
[16:35] <kevin009> yep. i installed an ext3 system and it still fails to checksum a copied file of 2 gigs
[16:35] <[manas]> th1 it not first time i got problems whit my card i cant run propaly my desktop configuration and compiz and etc
[16:35] <dj_> bratiz what is iz for 200mb
[16:35] <kevin009> guess i have to go back to 9.04
[16:35] <kevin009> even with ext3
[16:35] <th1> [manas], give me a second I remember something that sometimes fixes for some nvidia cards...
[16:35] <Dergel> well I started a live session and then mounted everything necessary and then chroot into my ubuntu installation... isnt that the same?
[16:35] <goatrider> is it possible to use ubuntu one on server distro?
[16:35] <outy> I DID A REALY BAD THING
[16:36] <thiebaude> kevin009, you can enable ext4 in 9.04
[16:36] <BoredKender> can anyone tell me why i don't have a "sound" option in my system - preferences on Karmic? i can't find how to set my audio to ALSA
[16:36] <IdleOne> !caps | outy
[16:36] <marko-_-> i can't add mp3's to k3b, how do i fix that?
[16:36] <outy> i moved both my toolbars to the top and made one autohide, now they are broken
[16:36] <th1> [manas], try this: go to System->Administration->Nvidia X Server Settigns and click X Screen 0 and XServer Xvideo Settings, and then click "sync to vblank" off
[16:36] <outy> sorry about caps
[16:36] <sshc> Dergel: yes, that should be the same.
[16:36] <MK13> !msg ubottu
[16:36] <erUSUL> !resetpanels | outy
[16:36] <marko-_-> !k3b mp3
[16:36] <erUSUL> MK13: /msg ubottu
[16:37] <outy> i dont have any toolbar buttons anymore and i cant make a new toolbar, its like the toolbar has bugged out
[16:37] <outy> so how do i open a terminal ?
[16:37] <MK13> erUSUL, yea i know, i just got used to justin.tv too much XD
[16:37] <Dergel> i think so... but, what can i do now?
[16:37] <th1> [manas], if it doesn't work chances are your nvidia card are screwed. then you can maybe disable the nvidia driver and it will work, but unaccelerated.
[16:37] <[manas]> th1 did it what next
[16:37] <erUSUL> outy: alt + f2 ?
[16:37] <bazhang> outy, alt f2 working?
[16:37] <goatrider> is it possible to use "ubuntu one" with out a gui?
[16:37] <bratiz> dj_: duhhhhh
[16:38] <outy> alt f2 doesnt work
[16:38] <[manas]> th1 doent work
[16:38] <bratiz> dj_: just put extra 00 in the end bro
[16:38] <dany__> hi, i can ste visual effects for applications normally but they dont work for gnome menu, any ideas why?
[16:38] <LMJ> Hi
[16:38] <th1> [manas], as I said then it's probably your card. try disabling compiz and/or the nvidia driver.
[16:38] <MK13> any way to add another OS to the grub boot menu?
[16:38] <genu_> hey...I'm trying to connect to my wireles network on my leptop...but it won't work...it has always worked with all previous versions...what can I do?
[16:38] <erUSUL> MK13: grub2 ?
[16:38] <marko-_-> !k3b mp3
[16:39] <marko-_-> i can't add mp3's to k3b, how do i fix that?
[16:39] <genu_> It works only if I disable the password on the network...
[16:39] <LMJ> Anyone noticed issues with embedded webcam on 9.10 ? Got 2 laptops where webcams was working like a charm on 9.04 but only once a while on 9.10
[16:39] <outy> so uh, i cant get to a terminal to reset the toolbars
[16:39] <[manas]> th1 let me try download diferent player
[16:39] <MasterofPuppets> Hi guys, I've enabled autospellchecking in OpenOffice, but it won't underline misspelled words. Anyone?
[16:39] <erUSUL> marko-_-: install libk3b3-extracodecs ??
[16:39] <MK13> erUSUL, yea... i have notice menu.lst is no longer used and grub.cnf says not to edit it
[16:39] <th1> [manas], chances are it will be the same if the player uses overlays/xvideo
[16:39] <marko-_-> erUSUL, thanks.
[16:39] <ricklerre1> I need to install the server kernel on an existing isntallation of karmic desktop, I installed the linux-server, linux-headers, and linux-image packages.  How exactly do I get it to boot into the kernel (not showing up in grub)
[16:39] <TURDS> ?DCC SEND "OLDSKEWL_LOVES_YOU" 0 0 0
[16:39] <IdleOne> marko-_-: did you install ubuntu-restricted-extras? I believe it installs support for mp3 to applications
[16:40] <marko-_-> yes i did
[16:40] <gpgp> can anyone help me with a karmic wireless issue ?
[16:40] <docmax> how do i install ubuntu server edition on eeepc 900 ?
[16:40] <erUSUL> !ask | gpgp
[16:40] <BNF> Hi Guys! are there any command similar to the  "Select Best Server" synaptic option in console mode?
[16:40] <voodoo> Hi .... anyone has a 5.1 surround system arround here?
[16:40] <erUSUL> docmax: a server edition on a eeepc ??
[16:40] <Jaredu_> whoops, I broke empathy O_o
[16:40] <MK13> what was with that mass ban?
[16:40] <gpgp> !ask | gpgp
[16:40] <docmax> yeah
[16:41] <docmax> i wanna have eeepc as server
[16:41] <IdleOne> MK13: that was a troll using a exploit to make people get kicked off irc
[16:41] <Wipster> hi all, having a bit of trouble with getting the serial port working, in ubuntu 9.04 it worked ok now in 9.10 it doesn't (code hasn't changed) it gets down to the serialport.new command and spits an error "wrong number of arguments (5 for 2)" has anyone else seen this?
[16:41] <MK13> IdleOne, ouch
[16:41] <gpgp> sorry having trouble sseeing private messages in this new pidgin layout
[16:41] <BNF> Hi Guys! can you help me? are there any command similar to the  "Select Best Server" synaptic option in console mode?
[16:41] <Wipster> using ruby
[16:41] <[manas]> th1 no it works thit vlc
[16:41] <sshc> Dergel: if you chroot'd correctly, then you should be able to ls /dev/sda1 after you chroot?
[16:41] <Defcon1> so i just installed 9.10 and grub did not run upon restart and menu.lst does not appear to be in /boot/grub/menu.lst and advice on how to fix?
[16:41] <MK13> erUSUL, do you know how to add to the grub2 menu?
[16:41] <th1> [manas], because vlc doesn't use overlays/xvideo
[16:41] <IdleOne> MK13: seems your not affected by it :)
[16:41] <BNF> apt-spy and netselect seems not be in repositories
[16:42] <MK13> IdleOne, i think it is because i don't automatically accept dcc
[16:42] <erUSUL> Defcon1: karnmic uses grub2 so no menu.lst
[16:42] <genu_> anybody?
[16:42] <Dergel> yea
[16:42] <wsch> BNF, /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:42] <IdleOne> MK13: it has to do with a bug in some routers
[16:42] <Xisdibik> Does anyone know if the Simple Login Manager (SLiM) is in the ubuntu repos, and if so where is it located/named?
[16:42] <sshc> Dergel: if you can't reinstall grub-pc or grub2, and Google doesn't help any, you should use supergrub
[16:42] <Defcon1> @erUSUL so how would I got about adding windows for a booting option?
[16:42] <MK13> IdleOne, ohhh.... i am in my university so, the router should be pretty decent/well kept
[16:42] <usser> Defcon1, boot from the livecd chroot into your installation, and run grub-install
[16:42] <hanasaki> how can I setup my box so upto 10 people can connect with VNC or RDP and get a GDM login prompt and later disconnect / reconnect to their session without ending the session on disconnect?
[16:42] <gpgp> gnome network manager was working in alpha but is not in full release, i have also tried wicd with same results
[16:42] <genu_> The network mananger just says "linksys" activating...but it never connects....this just happends if I have a password on the network...whats the problem?
[16:42] <BNF> wsch: I know where to change i just want a tool to ping all servers and chose the best one
[16:42] <sshc> Dergel: I'm going away now, you'll need to ask somebody else or elsewhere if you need further help
[16:43] <erUSUL> Defcon1: files in /etc/grub.d/ controll that now
[16:43] <BNF> wsch: like "select best server" in synaptyc
[16:43] <usser> hanasaki, google for ltsp
[16:43] <usser> !ltsp
[16:43] <agent42> outy: got the terminal?
[16:43] <Dergel> sshc: ok then i rly try supergrub
[16:43] <Kurious> l
[16:43] <erUSUL> Defcon1: there is a /etc/grub.d/20_windows_xp in my install
[16:43] <hanasaki> usser:  thanks.. bbl
[16:43] <Kurious> hi everyone
[16:43] <Gintulis> hi
[16:43] <sshc> Dergel: but when you do try supergrub, first try booting with supergrub
[16:43] <bluegoon> er guys, just did 9.10 installation via windows, now when it boots, throws me out to a GRUB loader command prompt..
[16:44] <Defcon1> !erUSUL I have windows 7 on another partition and apparently it did not recognize it
[16:44] <[manas]> th1 so what shoul i do now wait for updates??
[16:44] <bluegoon> something about NTFS5, then the GRUB loader prompt...9.10 a bit broken when installing from Windows?
[16:44] <th1> [manas], no its your card
[16:44] <erUSUL> Defcon1: well the you will have to add it by hand...
[16:44] <hanasaki> usser:  hmm so vnc was not the way to go?   does ltsp work from win clients too?
[16:44] <gburton> ubottu: are you sure you are a bot?
[16:44] <Kurious> anyone try 9.10 netbook-remix and a bluetooth headset?
[16:44] <th1> [manas], you get a new gfx card or disable the Nvidia driver from Hardware Drivers
[16:44] <darkham> why i can't find .gvfs folder in "add folder" windows on gmusicbrowser preferencies?
[16:44] <gburton> ubottu: i dont believe you
[16:44] <[manas]> th1 a??
[16:44] <bluegoon> Any help please? :)
[16:44] <IdleOne> !botabuse > gburton
[16:44] <Defcon1> !erUSUL thats what I figured, just needed to know where the new grub list was, thanks for the help!
[16:44] <in4box> кто из Украины?
[16:45] <fizzle> anyone familiar with installing xubuntu on a ppc g3.  i have problems when booting the cd.
[16:45] <th1> !ru | in4box
[16:45] <erUSUL> !ru | in4box
[16:45] <[manas]> th1 its intergraded nvidia 8200 512mb
[16:45] <IdleOne> Defcon1: don't put ! in front of your sentence, it triggers ubottu and makes it get confuzzled
[16:45] <marcusesses> So has anyone else had problems with wireless connections in 9.10?
[16:45] <hanasaki> ltsp.org is down :(
[16:45] <gpgp> no network manager will work with my karmic install as far as wifi is concerned
[16:45] <bluegoon> Windows Black > Ubuntu install from inside Windows > Reboot > Ubuntu > Grub Loader Command Prompt > wtf
[16:45] <th1> [manas], you can try one of the other driver versions that's not "recommended"
[16:45] <vika23> i have ati 4200 hd integrated in MB , i was wondering should i use proprietary driver , or default , any idea which gives better performance, thanks
[16:45] <Kurious> 9.10 wireless is working fine for me
[16:45] <Mike_lifeguard> Is it safe to install a .deb for firefox 3.0.15 for Jaunty on a Karmic system?
[16:45] <Defcon1> @IdleOne sorry, is the proper method the @ symbol?
[16:45] <[manas]> th1 i will now
[16:45] <Letterbomb05> Hi, I'm having some trouble with 9.10... I've upgraded directly from 9.04 and I've got a few problems. The first problem I have is that my touchpad doesn't work... I'm running a Dell Inspiron 1501, can anyone help? [http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8196636]
[16:46] <IdleOne> Defcon1: just the name is enough :)
[16:46] <bluegoon> Windows Black > Ubuntu install from inside Windows > Reboot > Ubuntu > Grub Loader Command Prompt > wtf
[16:46] <agent42> where to find torrent files? i want to seed isos
[16:46] <hanasaki> usser:  hmm that won't work.. I need to just share the screen and do all processing on the linux host.. no client mods other than rdp or vnc client software
[16:46] <gpgp> Kurious:  it worked for me in alpha but not since
[16:46] <antii> whoho, accesed a ubuntu livecd, how do I enter the the grub config so I can boot my windows again?
[16:46] <th1> !torrents | agent42
[16:46] <agent42> th1 tak
[16:46] <th1> agent42, yw
[16:47] <andry_> salve
[16:47] <andry_> ki c'è?
[16:47] <bluegoon> Ubuntu 9.10 just screwed me bad.
[16:47] <Defcon1> erUSUL is there an new way of calling the boot sequence? or can I just copy the way that my laptop calls windows 7 after changing all of the locations and such?
[16:47] <th1> andry_, please speak english
[16:47] <Kurious> gpgp: i actually backedup my home account and did a free install from a usb stick
[16:47] <outy> ok cool i managed to fix the toolbars
[16:47] <marcusesses> so NO network managers work, or the network manager works for wireless?
[16:47] <Debian-user> What's the command for release upgrade ?
[16:47] <erUSUL> Defcon1: "calling the boot sequence" ?
[16:47] <gpgp> none for wireless
[16:48] <IdleOne> andry_: Italiano o espagnole?
[16:48] <outy> now i need some help getting back to booting into windows
[16:48] <leaf-sheep> !upgrade | Debian-user
[16:48] <Letterbomb05> Is anyone else having a problem with sound on 9.10? Havn't had any sound since I upgraded...
[16:48] <fizzle> !powerpc
[16:48] <Debian-user> From 9.04 to 9.10
[16:48] <erUSUL> Defcon1: in my install there is a file /etc/grub.d/20_windows_xp <<< i can paste it if you want
[16:48] <bluegoon> Does ubuntu 9.10 break if you install it from Windows?
[16:48] <BoredKender> Letterbomb05, i have sound, but it is very crackly
[16:48] <Defcon1> erUSUL ya that would be great
[16:49] <BoredKender> Letterbomb05, it even crackles while mutes
[16:49] <bazhang> bluegoon, are you referring to a wubi install
[16:49] <Kurious> Letterbomb05: i have sound it is fin
[16:49] <hanasaki> does gdm in 9.10 use /etc/gdm/gdm.conf or is it now obsolete?
[16:49] <bluegoon> bazhang, yes that one, it just broke.
[16:49] <marcusesses> So any idea how to get around this wireless problem (if others have similar problems)?
[16:49] <daevski> How can I change grub back to my previous install (linux and linux side-by-side) ?
[16:49] <bluegoon> bazhang, when booting, it throws me out to GRUB LOADER Command line.
[16:49] <Letterbomb05> Hmm, is there anyone else that can't activate the visual effects? I just get an error saying they can't be enabled :/
[16:49] <wsch> !it | IdleOne
[16:49] <bluegoon> bazhang, when i say START or w/e, it sais kernel not found.
[16:49] <wsch> !es | IdleOne
[16:49] <RoyK> hi
[16:50] <gpgp> marcusesses:  i have none thats why i am in here
[16:50] <bazhang> wsch, he knows
[16:50] <robin0800> outy: /etc/default//grub
[16:50] <Kurious> anyone else having bluetooth headset problems with 9.10?
[16:50] <RoyK> is there a short/trivial 'show ubuntu version' commandline command somewhere?
[16:50] <marcusesses> ack
[16:50] <IdleOne> thank you wsch but I wanted to figure out where andry was from
[16:50] <bluegoon> set show_panic_message=true
[16:50] <bluegoon> if search -s -f -n /ubuntu/install/boot/grub/grub.cfg; then
[16:50] <bluegoon>     if configfile /ubuntu/install/boot/grub/grub.cfg; then
[16:50] <bluegoon>         set show_panic_message=false
[16:50] <bluegoon>     fi
[16:50] <bluegoon> else
[16:50] <FloodBot3> bluegoon: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:50] <th1> [manas], try http://www.ubuntugeek.com/fix-for-video-playback-problem-in-compiz-fusion.html
[16:50] <HorizonXP> so is anyone having jittery touchpad problems?
[16:50] <bazhang> bluegoon, dont know anything about wubi really.
[16:50] <marcusesses> Well, I don't think this channel will help much
[16:50] <erUSUL> Defcon1: http://paste.ubuntu.com/305201/ they are sh scripts
[16:50] <wsch> IdleOne, bazhang ah ok i just saw that one line i figured you were looking for italian or spanish help
[16:50] <daevski> Royk: try uname -a
[16:50] <IdleOne> wsch: :) no worries
[16:51] <gpgp> any suggestions on a channel that might ?
[16:51] <Kageno> is it me or are the updates really slow?
[16:51] <bazhang> wsch, its hard to read when it scrolls this fast :)
[16:51] <marcusesses> nope
[16:51] <nickolai> @letterbomb check if your video driver is enabled : system->administration->hardware drivers
[16:51] <pdebruic> is there anyplace I can read about the specific differences between server and desktop versions?  in server I get a seg fault but in desktop it runs fine both 9.04 and 9.10.  thanks in advnace
[16:51] <jwfoxjr> does anyone know if empathy can work with Google Apps Premier?
[16:51] <gpgp> ubuntu irc ops reccomended this channel
[16:51] <wsch> bazhang, i just came back in i didnt pay attention lol
[16:51] <Defcon1> erUSUL thanks, going to try and figure out this new grub :)
[16:51] <Kageno> apt is dling really slowly
[16:51] <jwfoxjr> I know that I can get it working with my regular gmail account
[16:51] <RoyK> daevski: that shows me kernel version and so on, not distro
[16:51] <wsch> Kageno, you can try to use another server
[16:51] <bluegoon> God damn i think i just basically threw away 30 gigs to Ubuntu
[16:51] <Letterbomb05> Does anyone know why my touchpad might not work after upgrading to 9.10?
[16:51] <marcusesses> If you go to ubuntuforums, there seem to be a lot of threads along the same lines
[16:52] <bazhang> Kageno, karmic was released yesterday, that would have an effect
[16:52] <vika23> i have ati 4200 hd integrated in MB , i was wondering should i use proprietary driver , or default , any idea which gives better performance, thanks
[16:52] <erUSUL> pdebruic: basically kernel version and selection of default packages
[16:52] <theBoon> Are 9800gt drivers available for the 64bit version?
[16:52] <IdleOne> Kageno: the servers are being hammered
[16:52] <bluegoon> hwat do you call the ubuntu within windows isntall again?
[16:52] <gpgp> yes there are manythey are hardware specific many wireless problems but
[16:52] <erUSUL> !wubi | bluegoon
[16:52] <IdleOne> bluegoon: wubi
[16:52] <bluegoon> thanks
[16:52] <bazhang> bluegoon, wubi
[16:52] <gOLDfeesh> I had an issue updating ubuntu
[16:52] <gpgp> network manager worked in alpha , i dont get it
[16:52] <marcusesses> What wireless driver are you using....and you're using network manager, you say?
[16:52] <wsch> nm-applet is basically just crap
[16:52] <n8tuser> gpgp-> and now?
[16:53] <bazhang> gpgp, which chipset
[16:53] <wsch> really really really crap
[16:53] <pdebruic> erUSUL: ok so just dpkg -l and check the kernel versions then?
[16:53] <gpgp> broad com
[16:53] <RoyK> lsb_release -r shows ubuntu release, it seems
[16:53] <gpgp> holdon
[16:53] <marcusesses> Because I thought hte problem was with network manager, so I uninstalled and installed wicd (which I was using for 9.04), and that didin't work either
[16:53] <emyller> hello
[16:53] <erUSUL> wsch: works wonderfully for me. but anecdotal evidence (both your and mine) is not evidence at all
[16:53] <gpgp> BCM4312 802.11b/g
[16:53] <emyller> how can i downgrade a package version throught aptitude?
[16:53] <cap> I have a Dell Latitude X-300 Notebook and not sure the keyboard mapping is correct for it. How can I check this and if necessary, rectify the issue?
[16:53] <wrapster> anyone using skype on 9.04(64)
[16:53]  * MBSTO use 8.04 (H)
[16:53] <daevski> RoyK: cat /etc/*-release
[16:54] <pdebruic> wrapster: yes... why?
[16:54] <cap> !keyboard
[16:54] <daevski> RoyK: That works on my system
[16:54] <wrapster> im having major issues with medibuntu pkg
[16:54]  * lupine_85 notes interestedly that LTSP and compositing just don't seem to play nicely together
[16:54] <gpgp> marcusesses:  i have tried the same
[16:54] <devin> does anyone have a problem with grub hanging for a unusual amount of time before loading the menus?
[16:54] <lupine_85> direct rendering and stuff, I guess
[16:54] <Kurious> 9.10 bluetooth problems anyone?
[16:54] <lupine_85> wonder if it'd work as a LocalApp
[16:54] <daevski> Kurious: /join ubuntu+1
[16:54] <RoyK> daevski: sure, but I was looking for a _command_, not looking through fscking etc
[16:54] <wrapster> pdebruic: all of a sudden it fails to respond and i dont even know when it dies.
[16:54] <devin> in 9.10
[16:54] <Pici> daevski: 9.10 is released.
[16:54] <bazhang> daevski, its here now as karmic is released
[16:54] <pdebruic> did it ever work?
[16:54] <IdleOne> daevski: that channel is closed
[16:54] <daevski> ohhhhhh okay
[16:55] <marcusesses> ok, first, how do I block users ? Because the signal to noise ratio on here is very low and I want to fix that
[16:55] <yancho>  anyone can help me get flash 10 work on ubuntu 9.04's firefox 3.5 please? I tried: http://queleimporta.com/en/finally-adobe-releases-native-64-bit-flash-10-for-linux/ and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash#flashtrouble to no avail .. any help is super appreciated :)
[16:55] <marcusesses> then maybe we can sort this out
[16:55] <daevski> RoyK: Okay sorry :)
[16:55] <antii> anyone know how I can restore windows boot manager from ubuntu livecd?!?
[16:55] <soapy_illusions> does anyone know where I can go for fan issues with 9.10 (that didnt exist in 9.04)
[16:55] <wrapster> pdebruic: so i have to keep making test calls to see if its online..
[16:55] <wsch> erUSUL, i met this guy once that does unix recruitment for a company that works for NASA... he got years of experience and didnt understand why the static ip he assigned didnt work, i told him to uninstall nm-applet, and it worked fine
[16:55] <IdleOne> !grub | antii
[16:55] <gpgp> right click on name
[16:55] <erUSUL> marcusesses: disable joins parts and quits
[16:55] <bazhang> marcusesses, which client
[16:55] <th1> marcusesses, nobody is forcing you to be in here.
[16:56] <wsch> erUSUL, if even someone with that kind of experience has trouble with it, then its crap imho
[16:56] <wrapster> and after it dies i have to go to system monitor kill skype and skype real then restart it...
[16:56] <wrapster> so far the longest its worked is like 15min s
[16:56] <cap> I think the ubottu answered my question. Will tinker with it a bit and see.
[16:56] <marcusesses> how do I disable that stuff (I'm using a terminal, so is ther a command for it?)
[16:57] <[manas]> th1 no it doent work and i just realized my flash player doant work too
[16:57] <daevski> How can I change grub back to my previous install (linux and linux side-by-side) ?
[16:57] <soapy_illusions> can i get help with kernel issues here or another channel
[16:57] <erUSUL> IdleOne: most of that docs are know pretty outdated... grub2
[16:57] <bazhang> marcusesses, irssi ?
[16:57] <BoredKender> help please? after upgrading to karmic my speakers keep popping, even on mute. has anyone found a fix for this?
[16:57] <awop> I just updated from 9.04 to 9.10 and now it won't boot. It is telling me I have to install the kernel first. Anyone know why?
[16:57] <Kurious> is there a bluetooth channel?
[16:57] <marcusesses> no, sirc
[16:57] <IdleOne> erUSUL: not everybody is using grub2 but I will remember that some/most are
[16:57] <th1> [manas], try adding this line to your /etc/X11/xorg.conf in the Device section: Option "NoXVideo"
[16:57] <gpgp> BoredKg optionender:  it has to do with a power savin
[16:57] <th1> [manas], then reboot and see if it helps
[16:58] <gpgp> i saw it earlier in the forums
[16:58] <pdebruic> wrapster: oh not my experience at all.  it runs all day just fine.   not using medibuntu version.
[16:58] <cappiz> someone having problems with newest kernel in 9.10? i have big issues with load and my 3ware raid controller. Takes 2 min to mkdir
[16:58] <akatsuki> hi everyone
[16:58] <wsch> [manas], (on 9.04, not sure about 9.10) sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer should do the trick to make flash work
[16:58] <simplexio> cappiz: does dmesg tell something ?=
[16:58] <outy> how can i edit my grub2 config ?
[16:58] <akatsuki> what command to use to get the internal and external ip addresses of my machine?
[16:58] <th1> wsch, it's not a problem of him not having the plugin but of nvidia causing problems with xvideo
[16:58] <wsch> [manas], that should install flash 10 (there were lots of trouble with flash9, especially on 64bit systems)
[16:58] <soapy_illusions> im having fan issues in 9.10 cause of the new kernel, running full speed 24/7
[16:59] <erUSUL> IdleOne: i fearing all the messed up installs by people using directions for grub1 on grub2 installs... :S. Not to count using supergrubcd blindly on grub2 installs
[16:59] <wsch> th1, ah ok, good luck lol
[16:59] <devin> what file replaced menu.list in grub so we can edit the menus?
[16:59] <BoredKender> gpgp, do you recall where to find it or how to fix it?
[16:59] <wsch> th1, i scrolled up for the conversation but couldnt find it
[16:59] <Kurious> quit
[16:59] <erUSUL> outy: /etc/default/grub and /etc/grub.d/README
[16:59] <erUSUL> devin: ^
[16:59] <th1> wsch, yeah ther'es a lot going on in here :)
[16:59] <gpgp> search the forums i saw it earlier today, its a known prob with workarounds in place
[16:59] <devin> erUSUL cool thanks
[16:59] <Xisdibik> So is SLiM not in the 9.10 repos, as i cant seem to find it or search apt for it :/?
[17:00] <nikitis> So are there any major issue people are having with 9.10?
[17:00] <bratiz>  	
[17:00] <bratiz> bok dan en son profesyonel ubuntu
[17:00] <soapy_illusions> can anyone help with fan troubles or wrong channel
[17:00] <wsch> th1, yeah i know, but i mean i did check first
[17:01] <wsch> soapy_illusions, are they stalking you?
[17:01] <wsch> :p
[17:01] <soapy_illusions> what?
[17:01] <marcusesses1> OK, using pidgin now
[17:01] <TopherSPI> I am attempting to update to 9.10 from 9.04 and I get the message: "Could Not Download Release notes. Please Check Your Internet Connection". Anybody know what I shoudl do to fix this?
[17:01] <wsch> soapy_illusions, #hardware is probably a good place for that unless its a software problem
[17:01] <michael__> dont update yet
[17:01] <mneptok> bratiz: stop that behavior, right now.
[17:01] <michael__> its not a very stable release
[17:01] <ska178> is anyone else having a problem trying to fetch the upgrade files when they try to upgrade?
[17:01] <wsch> soapy_illusions, lol it was a joke, fans are also people that are a fan of you
[17:01] <marcusesses1> So, wireless problems...
[17:01] <wsch> not only the rotating things
[17:01] <TopherSPI> Hmm. OKay then. Thanks
[17:01] <IdleOne> michael__: according to who?
[17:02] <michael__> ummm i've tested it
[17:02] <soapy_illusions> wsch, well i have a bug report out but very few answers, and lol too early in the morning to keep up
[17:02] <michael__> not compatable with a lot of hardware
[17:02]  * raid0 :)
[17:02] <michael__> mostly wireless stuff
[17:02] <wsch> soapy_illusions, ah its a software problem? with ubuntu controlling the fans or something?
[17:02] <outy> ok so what im trying to do is change the partition grub points to for windows
[17:02] <akatsuki> what command to use to get the internal and external ip addresses of my machine?
[17:02] <outy> im using grub2
[17:02] <soapy_illusions> ya and lm_sensors cannot detect my fan speed
[17:02] <gpgp> ifconfig for internal
[17:02] <IdleOne> michael__: well then, let's all downgrade cause it doesn't work for you :) see !wifi
[17:02] <soapy_illusions> so i cant control it with that
[17:02] <gpgp> traceroute will expose external
[17:03] <wsch> soapy_illusions, ah then this is definitely the good channel if you use ubuntu :p
[17:03] <wsch> cant help though sorry
[17:03] <soapy_illusions> hahaha kk
[17:03] <ska178> the upgrade files fail to load during the process, am I going to have to do a clean install of koala?
[17:03] <soapy_illusions> ill keep trying to find someone who can
[17:03] <IdleOne> michael__: keep it in the channel please
[17:04] <wsch> soapy_illusions, make sure they understand its ubuntu controlling the fans thats the problem, if you ask about it
[17:04] <kottlett> help! I upgraded a box to 9.10 which uses PXE boot - now it wont boot as long as I keep the fstab entry which mounts /home from a nfs share! It just says that it waits for the nfs-drive to be mounted. do I need to register nfs disks somewhere else now, not fstab anymore?
[17:04] <soapy_illusions> wsch, well i tried with opensuse 11.2 and had the same problem
[17:04] <wsch> soapy_illusions, in that case ##linux is also a good place'
[17:05] <marcusesses> sa
[17:05] <marcusesses> So who's having wireless problems again?
[17:05] <quickvfr> I just upgraded from 9.04 to 9.10 (i386).  On boot, I get to the splash screen, it flickers black, goes back to the splash; over and over, etc.  Any suggestions?  My AMD64 machine upgraded without issue.
[17:05] <th1> yeah the Ubuntu repos seem really slow at the moment I'm getting like 200k/second when updating
[17:05] <helix_> hi
[17:05] <helix_> anyone there? :P
[17:06] <gOLDfeesh> is there an issue with the repos today? Anytime I try to update ubuntu I get: W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/jaunty-updates/multiverse/i18n/Translation-en_US.bz2  Unable to connect to us.archive.ubuntu.com http:
[17:06] <ska178> can anyone help me? i've tried upgrading ubuntu the past couple days and it keeps failing when it tries to fetch the upgrade files
[17:06] <th1> gOLDfeesh, yeah its really slow atm
[17:06] <helix_> hey i'm wondering if something is possible:
[17:06] <gOLDfeesh> th1, I'm guessing it's because everyone is updating eh
[17:06] <Ank3n> no problems here!
[17:06] <akatsuki> gpgp: i traceroute my internal ip, but not showing my external, how do u get that to work?
[17:07] <mdmkolbe> How do I get a list (as text file) of programs that I've directly asked Synaptic to install?  (i.e. I don't want packages that were only installed because they were dependancies)
[17:07] <pradeep> My network manager keeps crashing frequently on Karmic. Any fixes?
[17:07] <th1> akatsuki, it depends on your network/router setup
[17:07] <fluid> i get consistent failures when trying to update repositories on a fresh 9.10 cd install no matter what mirror i select.
[17:07] <helix_> i have a virtual drive, but my game that i run on wine doesn't recognize the virtual drive as a cd medium (the game asks for the cd). my cdrom player is slow so i get laggs in game. is it possible to fool wine into thinking the virtual drive is cdrom0 ?
[17:07] <gOLDfeesh> mdmkolbe, I beleive there's an option to export the list of installed software
[17:07] <th1> fluid, are you using wireless connection?
[17:07] <fluid> no
[17:07] <quickvfr> For the updates, try doing the upgrade using the alternate cd from the torrents.  This worked for me.
[17:08] <yuval> anyone figure out how to get otr working with empathy?
[17:08] <simplexio> helix_: also known as cdrom check and copy protection. so you have options
[17:09] <helix_> simplexio, such as ? i have software to mount s
[17:09] <th1> yuval, you need to rebuild it manually .. i stick with pidgin until they get it fixed
[17:09] <akatsuki> th1: my internal ip is 192.168.248.225. i used the command traceroute 192.168.248.225 and got this:traceroute to 192.168.248.225 (192.168.248.225), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
[17:09] <akatsuki>  1  akatsuki-laptop.local (192.168.248.225)  0.050 ms  0.012 ms  0.012 ms
[17:09] <helix_> simplexio, cd images. but the game still doesn't think the cd is inserted
[17:09] <pradeep> My empathy client does not show my contact list and who are all online
[17:09] <gOLDfeesh> Alright so I ran "dist-upgrade"  and it only wanted to download 10MB? http://pastebin.com/d6acf35be
[17:09] <th1> akatsuki, yes of course that is expected
[17:09] <th1> akatsuki, when you traceroute to yourself then it doesn't go outside your PC
[17:10] <mdmkolbe> gOLDfeesh: I don't see an option like that
[17:10] <mikechelen> gOLDfeesh, check http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading#Network%20Upgrade%20for%20Ubuntu%20Servers%20%28Recommended%29 ?
[17:10] <outy> what do i have to do to edit grub.cfg ?
[17:10] <akatsuki> th1: what is the right way then?
[17:10] <simplexio> helix_: well.. #ubuntu isnt for teaching howto get nocd crack and howto disable copy protections.. google is for it, and try gamecopyworld
[17:10] <th1> akatsuki, go to www.whatismyip.com :)
[17:10] <nukem> hey I'm trying to share my home directory through NFS but every time I try to share it I get that my home directory doesn't support NFS export
[17:10] <harjot> help
[17:10] <soapy_illusions> still looking for help with a fan speed issue one 9.10
[17:10] <harjot> desperate help
[17:10] <Mike_lifeguard> Anyone have info on notification bubbles appearing in the wrong location (ie not in the corner)?
[17:10] <akatsuki> th1: yes, that is my external ip, right?
[17:10] <harjot> needed
[17:10] <helix_> simplexio, no it's not a no cd crack. I have the cd and the game runs but my player is too slow. Sorry I am very bad at explaining!
[17:10] <fluid> here is output from 'apt-get update' - http://pastebin.ca/1649451
[17:10] <harjot> anyone wish to assist me?
[17:11] <th1> akatsuki, yes (or your proxy's in some rarer cases)
[17:11] <mikechelen> !ask | harjot
[17:11] <helix_> simplexio, basically I want to mount the cd directly on the computer for faster reading
[17:11] <IndyGunFreak> Mike_LaMar, you probably haver a notification area somewhere else on your panel...
[17:11] <docmax> how do i install ubuntu server edition on eeepc 900 ?
[17:11] <gOLDfeesh> mikechelen, that seems to be for servers should it still work no matter what?
[17:11] <harjot> mikechelen: its not exactly a problem
[17:11] <fluid> the "Ign" lines shouldnt be ... i just installed. it should at least pull the package lists once.
[17:11] <ricklerre1> Can anyone tell me how to switch from the generic kernel to the server kernel?
[17:11] <helix_> simplexio, so I have the .img, i mont it into ~/virtual-drives/1
[17:11] <harjot> mikechelen: well it is in a way
[17:11] <akatsuki> th1: okay, but how do I obtain it using the terminal?
[17:11] <Berzerker-> docmax, you should be using the desktop version, or even ubuntu netbook remix
[17:11] <simplexio> helix_: yeas, i totally understand your problem, and easiest way to get it working is get nocd crack so game thinks your cdimage is right cd
[17:11] <IndyGunFreak> docmax, why would you put server edition o n an eee?
[17:11] <th1> akatsuki, one solution is shown here: http://www.experts-exchange.com/Web/Q_20997692.html
[17:11] <mikechelen> gOLDfeesh, it seems to be the proper way to upgrade via command line, otherwise follow desktop guide for gui
[17:12] <helix_> simplexio, the thing is how to specify where the image is.. it can't guess :p
[17:12] <mikechelen> harjot, nobody can help unless you say what the problem/notproblem is :)
[17:12] <docmax> IndyGunFreak, to habe a server?
[17:12] <docmax> have
[17:12] <jonte> Hi.I have installed ubuntu as dual boot with windows.now when i chose ubuntu in dual boot its freezes down like hacking but aren't working. Do you know why?
[17:12] <harjot> mikechelen: il type it in asec
[17:12] <nukem_> hey I'm trying to share my home directory via NFS but exportfs says my home directory does not support NFS export
[17:12] <simplexio> helix_: you can try mount -o loop image.ido /media/cdrom/
[17:13] <simplexio> helix_: winecfg has place where you tell it where is you cdrom dir
[17:13] <dbruns> yesterday I started a dist-upgrade from within screen, today I came back and now I cant reattach my screen session because it says screen is not installed . . . is there any way to recover from this?
[17:13] <IndyGunFreak> docmax, that is probably a severely underpowered machine to run a server
[17:13] <helix_> simplexio, ok h/o i will try one of these
[17:13] <module000> dbruns: did the box reboot or something?
[17:13] <fluid> i believe the Ign errors from apt-get are 404 errors on the repositories. but these are core package lists its failing on. hehe
[17:13] <simplexio> helix_: but i much doubt that it work without nocd crack
[17:13] <mikechelen> harjot, ubuntuforums.org is also good if the question is long
[17:13] <gharz> guys, i have just installed ubuntu 9.10... i'm just wondering how i can activate my broadcom 4312 wireless
[17:13] <LjL> dbruns: is the screen still running according to ps aux?
[17:13] <gharz> normally in the previous ubuntu... i'll just activate the restricted driver and voila... it runs
[17:13] <Berzerker-> gharz, System > Administration > Hardware drivers
[17:14] <gharz> please helpo
[17:14] <docmax> IndyGunFreak, for a fileserver???
[17:14] <mikechelen> IndyGunFreak, ubuntu server edition can run with very low resources depending on configuration
[17:14] <shifteleven> gharz, I too am having this issue
[17:14] <pjman> Hi - How can I configure the terminal to use the system-wide socks proxy setting? The proxy is working as FF is using it. I've ready many howtos to set this up using http proxy but I'm looking for socks/ssh
[17:14] <dbruns> module000: i don't thikn so.. it said itw as going to take 5+ hours so I detatched, left came back and now it says screen isn't installed
[17:14] <jonte> It is freezes down when log in screen come up or before that.
[17:14] <dbruns> LjL yes
[17:14] <module000> dbruns: check `uptime` to be sure
[17:14] <gharz> shifteleven: yes... i'm a bit sad about this
[17:14] <iholst> How do I set gpicview as the default image viewer?
[17:14] <Berzerker-> gharz, for some reason, it doesn't appear automatically, you'll need to open the actual app
[17:14] <IndyGunFreak> mikechelen, i wasn't referring to the fact that it couldn't run the server software.
[17:14] <Younder> what is this ?  Gdk-WARNING **: XID collision, trouble ahead
[17:14] <module000> dbruns: and do you see your session still going with `ps faux` if indeed it has not erbooted
[17:14] <dbruns> module000: no it didn't restart
[17:14] <grawity> pjman: $HTTP_PROXY is honoured by many programs. However, for SOCKS proxies, there is only one way - tsocks or similar.
[17:14] <gharz> berzerker: what do u mean open the actual app?
[17:14] <th1> akatsuki, the simplest seems to be this one: wget http://dynupdate.no-ip.com/ip.php
[17:14] <Berzerker-> gharz, System > Administration > Hardware Drivers
[17:14] <Younder> I get it running emacs 23.1
[17:14] <Berzerker-> gharz, use the B43 driver
[17:15] <shifteleven> Berzerker-: I do that but nothing's listed
[17:15] <mikechelen> IndyGunFreak, oh ok, well even older systems like p3 will happily run ubuntu server
[17:15] <grawity> pjman: So you'd run "tsocks" and you'd get a new shell, which is entirely socksified.
[17:15] <dbruns> module000: yes it is still going
[17:15] <th1> akatsuki, IP=`wget -q -O - http://dynupdate.no-ip.com/ip.php`
[17:15] <gharz> Berzerker: i already did it... it asks me to activate... when i click activate nothing happens
[17:15] <module000> dbruns: then apt-get install screen and screen -rD to it
[17:15] <LjL> dbruns: maybe you could download the screen package manually, extract it and start the binary
[17:15] <IndyGunFreak> mikechelen, i'm aware of that.. but that wasn't my point at all.
[17:15] <iholst> anyone?
[17:15] <Berzerker-> gharz, you need to be connected to the internet
[17:15] <dbruns> i can't apt-get install anything
[17:15] <Berzerker-> gharz, connect it wired.
[17:15] <Mereep> did close browser and opened new one but it still lags horrible
[17:15] <yancho>  anyone can help me get flash 10 work on ubuntu 9.04's firefox 3.5 please? I tried: http://queleimporta.com/en/finally-adobe-releases-native-64-bit-flash-10-for-linux/ and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash#flashtrouble to no avail .. any help is super appreciated :)
[17:15] <[manas]> th1 im f.. now no gnome is loading after that line
[17:15] <akatsuki> th1: yep, looking at it now :) thanks mate. :)
[17:15] <dbruns> "Unable to lock the administration directory, blah blah blah"
[17:15] <mikechelen> IndyGunFreak, oh ok, what was the issue then?
[17:15] <th1> akatsuki, np :)
[17:16] <grawity> th1: For extra geek points, do: dig +short myip.opendns.com @resolver1.opendns.com
[17:16] <outy> can someone please help me
[17:16] <gharz> berzerker: i am already connected to wired... i'm using it right now... but it doesn't download the files... should ubuntu be downloading the files for the wireless?
[17:16] <dbruns> LjL i tried downloading the source and compiling it but it complains about a dependancy
[17:16] <outy> i need to change the partition grub2 points to for my windows partition
[17:16] <IndyGunFreak> dbruns, clos synaptic, and anything else running root, and just go to adobe.com and download the .deb fie
[17:16] <HBX> whats the latest kernel for karmic
[17:16] <Berzerker-> gharz, when you click activate, it should say downloading and installing drivers.
[17:16] <LjL> dbruns: forget about the source, just download the binary
[17:16] <module000> dbruns: you might have to kill it and `dpkg --configure a` to get it to pick up where it left off
[17:16] <Berzerker-> shifteleven, lspci shows a broadcom 4312?
[17:16] <olga__> hi. My computer has crashed so I am using a live cd in order to copy important files before I do a clean installation. I am trying to copy my thunderbird profile but i can not access .mozilla-thunderbird.
[17:16] <hanasaki> how can I run another GDM from the command line on a new VT?
[17:16] <shifteleven> Berzerker-: it's not showing anything.
[17:16] <IdleOne> LjL: his apt is locked
[17:16] <noppe> Yay ubuntu 9.10!
[17:16] <shifteleven> but i'm not connected to the internet
[17:16] <pjman> grawity: thank you - I will give this a try
[17:17] <Berzerker-> shifteleven, no, does lspci show it?
[17:17] <Arinmal> hey everyone
[17:17] <LjL> IdleOne: that's why i said "manually"
[17:17] <[manas]> th1 my ubuntu doent work how i can restore it back
[17:17] <dbruns> IndyGunFreak: adobe.com? for a .deb?
[17:17] <jonte> Pleas i need help,I have installed ubuntu as dual boot with windows.now when i chose ubuntu in dual boot its freezes down like hacking but aren't working. Do you know why?It is freezes down when log in screen come up or before that.
[17:17] <IdleOne> LjL: oh
[17:17] <dupondje> can somebody try printing from flash ? does it show printers ?
[17:17] <Scunizi> olga__: you can't access it or change into that directory?
[17:17] <stz184> hello. xrandr --output LVDS --set BACKLIGHT_CONTROL native doesnt work anymore in ubuntu 9.10. HELP? how to fix it?
[17:17] <LjL> dbruns: i386 or md64?
[17:17] <dbruns> md64
[17:17] <dbruns> this is funning on a virtual server
[17:17] <dbruns> running*
[17:17] <Berzerker-> dbruns, if you're on 64-bit, you'll need to download the .deb
[17:17] <LjL> dbruns: still, 32 or 64 bit?
[17:17] <Berzerker-> dbruns, otherwise you can install it via aptitude.
[17:17] <dbruns> Berzerker-:  quick pointer to where i can find it?
[17:18] <LjL> dbruns: ah sorry didn't read
[17:18] <th1> [manas] go Ctrl+Alt+F1 and log in and then edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf back
[17:18] <LjL> dbruns: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/s/screen/screen_4.0.3-13ubuntu4_amd64.deb
[17:18] <Berzerker-> dbruns, http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html
[17:18] <[manas]> th1 gnome doent load
[17:18] <[manas]> th1 just command line
[17:18] <LjL> dbruns: download that using wget or something, into a directory of its own, then type "ar x *.deb" to extract it
[17:18] <th1> [manas], yeah then edit the xorg.conf back with command line and reboot
[17:18] <shifteleven> Berzerker-: it's showing the Broadcom with lspci
[17:18] <olga__> Scunizi, I am trying to enter that directory but it tells me I do not have the permissions. I also tried a 'su myusername' but it tells me it can not find that user
[17:19] <module000> dbruns: your problem is no screen, and your' previous screen has your upgrade going, correct?
[17:19] <LjL> dbruns: then type "tar xf *.tar.gz"
[17:19] <[manas]> th1 how dont know
[17:19] <outy> i need some help editing grub2
[17:19] <th1> [manas], sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[17:19] <dbruns> module000: correct
[17:19] <module000> dbruns: then you need to kill the screen[and upgrade process], dpkg --configure a, then retype the upgrade commadn to pick up where it left off, or report it is complete
[17:19] <outy> i know what i need to change,  but i cant figure out how to get permissions, etc, to change the file
[17:19] <LjL> dbruns: actually, type "tar xf data.tar.gz"
[17:19] <stone1343> I can't tell you all how much I love Ubuntu and Ubuntu Netbook Remix - Kudos to Canonical and everyone else who did such a great job with Karmic
[17:19] <gharz> shifteleven: when i run lspci it shows broadcom corp bcm4312
[17:19] <dupondje> can somebody try printing from flash ? does it show printers ?
[17:19] <dbruns> LjL:  yeah I should be able to go from here with the .deb
[17:19] <module000> dbruns: the screen is probably waiting for a y/n style input
[17:19] <LjL> dbruns: then type « ./usr/bin/screen -r »
[17:19] <gOLDfeesh> when trying to update I get http://pastebin.com/d34963e43
[17:19] <gharz> shifteleven: have u managed to fix your wireless?
[17:19] <maehze> hi - anyone got a PPA for grub2-gfxmenu ??? (x64)
[17:19] <Scunizi> olga__: this directory should be in your /home.. so if you're at terminal type "cd /home/<username>/.mozill<TAB> and you should be there.
[17:19] <fluid> could someone with working updates please pastbin their sources.list for me please? this is getting old. ;)
[17:20] <dbruns> I'm not completely helpless, just haven't used ubuntu for a few years.. been forced to use SLES (I hate it)
[17:20] <grawity> Scunizi: Why '/home/<username>/' when '~/' is enough?
[17:20] <DasKreech> Hello
[17:20] <DasKreech> Dose grub2 still use menu.lst?
[17:20] <hahahaman> 0.0
[17:20] <module000> dbruns: both solutions work...the one to manually install screen, or the process i'm telling you to stop the upgrade adn resume it outside of screen
[17:20] <fluid> grub.cfg
[17:20] <th1> the grub2 config scheme in ubuntu is a shamles
[17:20] <Arinmal> speaking of grub.cfg
[17:20] <Scunizi> grawity: ~ is enough.. but with new users sometimes it help for them to understand where they are actually going..
[17:21] <Younder> rythmbox in ubuntu 9.10 doesn't work
[17:21] <gharz> be right back
[17:21] <Arinmal> i messed my install up and need to reinstall grub from the live cd..any know how?
[17:21] <maehze> /etc/grub.d/
[17:21] <DasKreech> It says I shouldn't edit it directly Is tehre a tool for it?
[17:21] <Younder> rythmbox in ubuntu 9.10 doesn't work
[17:21] <Berzerker-> DasKreech, menu.lst has been moved to /etc/default/grub
[17:21] <Scunizi> !repeat | Younder
[17:21] <shankhs> hi I am trying to upgrade to 9.10 from 9.04 but the update manager is not displaying the upgrade option.What to do?Please help
[17:21] <Berzerker-> once that is modified, sudo update-grub
[17:21] <Younder> why is that
[17:21] <th1> Younder, it doesn't work better if you say it again and again
[17:21] <helix_> simplexio, the mount -o loop image.img /media/cdrom/ worked ;)
[17:22] <olga__> Scunizi, I do not know much about live cd's (actually, a live usb) but the impression I have go is that I am on another partition because my username is not under /home/
[17:22] <Younder> Scunizi, yes, I repeated
[17:22] <maehze> DasKreech: sudo apt-get install startupmanager
[17:22] <helix_> simplexio, no longer need cd (nor crack) :D thanks for the cmd :)
[17:22] <Berzerker-> shankhs, go into a terminal and sudo apt-get update, then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[17:22] <th1> Younder, you also didn't ask a question
[17:22] <yuval> th1, much thanks . i'll probably stick until the binaries are available. seems to be what a lot are doing
[17:22] <mneptok> Berzerker-: that does not upgrade versions
[17:22] <Scunizi> Younder: and you're making statements.. Ask a question and maybe someone will answer.
[17:22] <Berzerker-> mneptok, it did for me.
[17:22] <DasKreech> maehze: That installs all of Gnome:-(
[17:22] <albasheers> After installing Karmic kola  palipsest disk utility says my hard drive is having bad sector
[17:23] <mathieu> hello can someone give me a link to a tested howto page for the ati radeon hd 3400 linux (ubuntu) driver? any help appreciated :)
[17:23] <mneptok> Berzerker-: dist-upgrade gets you new kernels for your current installed version
[17:23] <maehze> DasKreech: oh, sry. didnt know that u arent unsing gnome
[17:23] <dbruns> I'm back in!
[17:23] <dbruns> TY
[17:23] <mneptok> shankhs: sudo do-release-upgrade
[17:23] <IndyGunFreak> dbruns, sorry.. yeah,there's an ubuntu .deb file on adobe.com.. just go there and download it, and use it to install flash
[17:23] <maehze> *using
[17:23] <Berzerker-> mneptok, dist-upgrade gave me 9.10 from 9.04
[17:23] <woble> hey there: someone also notices the following bugs on upgrading to Karmic:  Brightness change doesnt work anymore, external USB mouse doesnt work anymore, sound output is distorted?
[17:23] <Scunizi> olga__: so you're on a live cd .. you are already root and the user name is ubuntu... typically
[17:23] <Berzerker-> I can guarantee that it will work
[17:23] <TheCheeze> ok, i turned off the powersaver function in the ALSA config file as was explained on the forums, but now i have NO sound
[17:23] <dbruns> IndyGunFreak:  flash?....
[17:23] <agentbob> can someone help me with a apt-get problem? trying to install libapache2-mod-php5 but getting the following error: http://pastebin.com/de8b3610 i tried to create a custom pkg of php, but i've since removed them using dpkg -r and apt-get remove and reinstalled the normal php packages.. except for the libapache2-mod-php5* ones
[17:23] <dbruns> IndyGunFreak: i don't need flash for anything
[17:23] <maehze> Anyone experience with grub2-gfxmenu and ubuntu karmic x64? =D
[17:23] <dupondje> somebody can test it for me plz ?
[17:23] <dupondje> can somebody try printing from flash ? does it show printers ?
[17:23] <IndyGunFreak> dbruns, didn't you say you were having trouble installing flash
[17:24] <IndyGunFreak> sorry, confused you w/ someone else
[17:24] <dbruns> IndyGunFreak:  no . . .
[17:24] <gOLDfeesh> when trying to update I get http://pastebin.com/d34963e43
[17:24] <TheCheeze> oop, there was some
[17:24] <TheCheeze> my mistake
[17:24] <dbruns> LjL, module000 : thanks guys I'm back in
[17:24] <olga__> Scunizi, yes that is correct. But I can not enter the .mozilla-thunderbird directory
[17:24] <IndyGunFreak> yancho, did you get flash working?
[17:24] <mneptok> Berzerker-: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/305226/
[17:24] <DasKreech> Berzerker-: maehze Ok I'll jsut edit it driectly
[17:24] <mneptok> Berzerker-: so much for your guarantee ;)
[17:24] <DasKreech> Berzerker-: Thats not menu.lst :)
[17:24] <yancho> IndyGunFreak,  no :(
[17:25] <olga__> Scunizi, actually I do not know how to get there via the terminal so I am using nautilus
[17:25] <dbruns> I got the warning about doing a dist-upgrade from ssh, so I went into a screen session to do it.. OOPs ;p
[17:25] <IndyGunFreak> yancho, just close anything running root, go to adobe.com and download the ubuntu.deb for flash.. and install it
[17:25] <gharz> guys, anyone who can help me fix my broadcom wireless 4312? hardware drivers under system doesn't fix this
[17:25] <Berzerker-> DasKreech, you shouldn't modify grub.cfg directly unless you're changing partition information, update-grub will automatically detect new partitions
[17:25] <Scunizi> olga__: ah.. hit CTRL+H to view hidden directories.. any directory beginning with a "." is hidden.
[17:25] <yancho> IndyGunFreak,  how to close anything running? and i have ubuntu 64 not 32 .. will it work? and how to force it?
[17:26] <th1> gharz, you can try bleeding edge drivers from http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Download
[17:26] <Berzerker-> mneptok, sorry if it doesn't work for you, but it worked for me.
[17:26] <DasKreech> Berzerker-: It has things listed multiple times. I'm taking out some of them
[17:26] <osman_> eh
[17:26] <Berzerker-> mneptok, in multiple situations
[17:26] <shankhs> Berzerker-: I am getting Failed to fetch http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/u/update-manager/update-manager_0.111.10_all.deb  404 Not Found E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[17:26] <IndyGunFreak> yancho, oh, 64bit.. i'm not sure how to do it w/ 64
[17:26] <mathieu> hello, can someone give me a link to a tested howto page for installing the ati radeon hd 3400 linux (ubuntu) driver? any help appreciated :)
[17:26] <osman_> yancho install the ubuntu-restricted-extras the flash player is coming there
[17:26] <olga__> Scunizi, yes I know it is hidden and so on but when I try to enter it I get a message telling me I do not have the permissions necessary
[17:27] <shifteleven> gharz: i still don't have it fixed
[17:27] <albasheers> gnome-disk-utility in karmic kola gives a pop up that my hdd has bad sectors
[17:27] <yancho> osman_,  should i remove the current .so i have? http://pastebin.com/d2c60a5ef
[17:27] <Scunizi> olga.. restart nautilus from terminal with "gksudo nautilus" and then you should be able to
[17:27] <mathieu> hi
[17:27] <erana> mathieu: www.xfree86.org , check the drivers
[17:27] <gharz> shifteleven: yes... me too... hardware drivers doesn't fix this
[17:27] <Berzerker-> shankhs, try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade --fix-missing
[17:27] <gharz> at least my bcom lan worked
[17:27] <shankhs> Berzerker-: ya trying this one
[17:27] <mneptok> Berzerker-: it works for me. dist-upgrade does exactly what it is supposed to do.
[17:27] <Berzerker-> gharz, LAN is on a different chip
[17:28] <MythGuy> How do I make sure my ATI drivers are working?
[17:28] <Berzerker-> mneptok, all I know is I was on jaunty, now I'm on karmic with all my packages successfully updated, and all I did was a dist-upgrade
[17:28] <xrfang> hello there, I just upgraded to 910, I cannot find the services manager program which was in the system administration menu, help please
[17:28] <mneptok> Berzerker-: with a -u modifier for apt-get?
[17:28] <shankhs> Berzerker-: tried but still got : Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y Err http://in.archive.ubuntu.com jaunty-proposed/main update-manager 1:0.111.10   404 Not Found Failed to fetch http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/u/update-manager/update-manager_0.111.10_all.deb  404 Not Found
[17:28] <Berzerker-> mneptok, sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade. that's all I wrote.
[17:29] <Laserbeak> hello I have 2 soundcards, both recognized by Alsamixer. all channels are unmuted and volume is up. the problem is, one is broken and i don't use it cause it outputs on one channel. the other works on every OS i've used it on, but gives me no sound on this installation. I've added myself tothe use audio devices group, plugged everything in and turned the speakers all the way up and still get nothing can someone pls help?
[17:29] <Berzerker-> shankhs, strange, looks like it can't find a required package
[17:29] <shankhs> Berzerker-: ya
[17:29] <iholst> I need some help
[17:29] <shankhs> Berzerker-: I am googling for some help
[17:30] <shifteleven> gharz: i think I may try this shortly. http://onlyubuntu.blogspot.com/2008/10/how-to-setup-broadcom-wireless-bcm4312.html
[17:30] <mathieu> umm... i was hoping for a wici page. i got one last time and things where working but then every thing broke so here i am again
[17:30] <hanasaki> I am doing a sudo -u userName "sh -c ; pwd ; antoher command"
[17:30] <hanasaki> why does pwd show the username home directory correctly but the antoher command says it has no perms on the home directory I am running sudo from?
[17:30] <iholst> how do I install login screens
[17:30] <osman_> eh
[17:30] <n8tuser> hanasaki-> which dir are you on when running sudo?
[17:30] <shifteleven> gharz: or maybe this would be better: http://jetpackweb.com/blog/2009/10/29/ubuntu-9-10-karmic-koala-and-broadcom-bcm4312/
[17:30] <IndyGunFreak> shifteleven, i'd try to find ome more current instructions
[17:30] <TheCheeze> ok, now i only have one problem with karmic. ever since i upgraded i can't launch firefox with links in messengers/xchat/etc
[17:30] <Berzerker-> iholst, you can't change the login screen, GDM has been completely rewritten and doesn't have that support yet.
[17:31] <codeswing> why karmic koala
[17:31] <IndyGunFreak> shifteleven, lol, that would probably be better
[17:31] <codeswing> what are the major features ?
[17:31] <iholst> oh
[17:31] <giacomo_c> i've upgraded to 9.10, an it seems to have killed my audio.  how do i setup sound in 9.10?
[17:31] <hanasaki> n8tuser:  mine.. not the -u  persons
[17:31] <felixjet> hi
[17:31] <DopeGhoti> hanasaki: try: sudo "this; that; the other" rather than just sudo this; that; the other
[17:31] <derek_smart> how do i install ubuntu on a laptop, do i need a special cd or does the cd with the normal site work with desktops and laptops alike
[17:31] <felixjet> which is the root password? :/
[17:31] <shankhs> Berzerker-: the server was overloaded
[17:31] <felixjet> i cant sudo
[17:31] <woble> -->  xrandr --output LVDS --set BACKLIGHT_CONTROL native  <-- allows me to set backlight
[17:31] <Berzerker-> shankhs, probably.
[17:31] <woble> but it doesnt get to full potential
[17:31] <hanasaki> DopeGhoti:  please expalin more
[17:31] <iholst> If i'm using karmic?
[17:31] <Berzerker-> iholst, yes.
[17:31] <TheCheeze> derek_smart, normal install iso works great with laptops too
[17:31] <Sirex> anyone else finding karmic upgrade from jaunty has killed their networking cept for ping ?
[17:31] <giacomo_c> has anyone else been having sound problems after upgrading to 9.10?
[17:32] <felixjet> which password is the default for sudo?
[17:32] <Sirex> yes ^ giacomo_c
[17:32] <IndyGunFreak> shifteleven, i'm curius if you need internet access to run that command, or if youcan run that from the install CD
[17:32] <TheCheeze> giacomo_c, i had some crackle problems, but solved it
[17:32] <Berzerker-> felixjet, your password
[17:32] <felixjet> oh, ok
[17:32] <codeswing> why should I install karmic
[17:32] <woble> Sirex , it killed almost everything down here.. but network
[17:32] <derek_smart> according to research normal install iso works ok with laptops brb
[17:32] <codeswing> anything great over 8.10
[17:32] <felixjet> forgot to test lol
[17:32] <happyface> How do I change grub default? Koala is on a logical partition so menu.lst and grub.conf aren't in /boot/grub
[17:32] <olga__> I am on a live cd trying to enter the .mozilla-thunderbird directory but I do not have the required permissions. What do I do_
[17:32] <shifteleven> IndyGunFreak: good call.  interesting
[17:32] <TheCheeze> and for your problems, right-click on your volume icon and hit properties. change around profiles and see if that helps
[17:32] <n8tuser> hanasaki-> what is the u person?
[17:32] <iholst> How would I change an icon of a program to one of my own pistures?
[17:32] <Laserbeak> Sirex: wheni try to upgrade from 9.04 it complains about my network, even though i've used the same utility to update 9.04
[17:32] <Sirex> woble ive lost networking and sound, mostly :(
[17:32] <Berzerker-> codeswing, faster boot time, support for ext4, new grub, rewritten GDM
[17:32] <Berzerker-> codeswing, new icons also
[17:32] <woble> codeswing no if you are planning to use it as your maind esktop
[17:32] <giacomo_c> well, how do you get audio working at all?  i used to have pulseaudio with 9.04 and it worked great, but now, i can't get it to work
[17:32] <codeswing> Berzerker-: hmm
[17:32] <packet-sent> If I have 2 network drives and copy between them will packets come to my machine then over to the other machine or will the packets know the quickest route and send them directly to 2nd machine
[17:33] <IndyGunFreak> shifteleven, if you've got a wired connection you can hook up to for a minute, then its no big deal.. but if you don't... it could e a problem
[17:33] <woble> Sirex , my audio is distorted
[17:33] <hanasaki> n8tuser:  I am in ~hanasaki when I run it
[17:33] <codeswing> I am currently backing up data of 8.10
[17:33] <night13> felixjet, root - root but you can use it with x-server
[17:33] <woble> but it works
[17:33] <night13> cannot
[17:33] <codeswing> Berzerker-: so that I could install 9.10 karmic
[17:33] <Laserbeak> hello I have 2 soundcards, both recognized by Alsamixer. all channels are unmuted and volume is up. the problem is, one is broken and i don't use it cause it outputs on one channel. the other works on every OS i've used it on, but gives me no sound on this installation. I've added myself tothe use audio devices group, plugged everything in and turned the speakers all the way up and still get nothing can someone pls help?
[17:33] <n8tuser> hanasaki-> and what is the exact command?
[17:33] <mathieu> hello can someone give me a link to a tested howto page for the ati radeon hd 3400 linux (ubuntu) driver? any help appreciated  sorry for repeats but no awnsers
[17:33] <TheCheeze> giacomo_c, as i said, hit your properties in your audio icon and change profiles to see if any of them work
[17:33] <Berzerker-> codeswing, I'd so a clean install and use ext4
[17:33] <codeswing> Berzerker-: should I choose ext4
[17:33] <Cheery> when installing the new ubuntu system, what would be preferable to backup?
[17:33] <shifteleven> IndyGunFreak: right now I don't have a network connection that I can use
[17:33] <DopeGhoti> is 910's wireless support any better than Jaunty's?  I'm having wifi issues with an old laptop I'm trying to ressurect
[17:33] <Cheery> (from the old ubuntu system)
[17:33] <[manas]> th1 so what shoul i do now whit my video card
[17:33] <Berzerker-> codeswing, yes.
[17:33] <IndyGunFreak> shifteleven, that could be an issue..
[17:34] <giacomo_c> under the hardware tab TheCheeze?
[17:34] <shifteleven> IndyGunFreak: lol...agreed
[17:34] <codeswing> Berzerker-: GDM rewritten means ?
[17:34] <IndyGunFreak> :)
[17:34] <TheCheeze> giacomo_c, yes
[17:34] <shankhs> Berzerker-: I am still getting sudo apt-get dist-upgrade Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done Calculating upgrade... Done 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[17:34] <shankhs> Bewrany help!
[17:34] <MythGuy> How do I figure out the video driver that's in use?
[17:34] <Berzerker-> codeswing, faster, more efficient, new themes.
[17:34] <shankhs> Berzerker-: any help!
[17:34] <IndyGunFreak> shifteleven, i'd be willing to bet that is on the CD.... but i'm not sure
[17:34] <Berzerker-> shankhs, I guess try sudo do-release-upgrade
[17:34] <TheCheeze> MythGuy, system - administration - hardware profiels
[17:34] <Koterpillar> How do I make deskbar applet look like http://www.nongnu.org/gnomolicious/pixmaps/deskbar.png ?
[17:34] <TheCheeze> profiles*
[17:35] <iholst> how would you change the icon of a launcher?
[17:35] <hanasaki> sudo -u person2 sh -c "cd ~person2; pwd ; vnc4server :1"   <= complains that it cannot get to ~hanasaki/.vnc .....
[17:35] <shankhs> Berzerker-: tried this one too sudo do-release-upgrade Checking for a new ubuntu release No new release found
[17:35] <codeswing> guys how are you finding karmic
[17:35] <LjL> !ot
[17:35] <IndyGunFreak> iholst, is it on the desktop, or in the menu?
[17:35] <Berzerker-> shankhs, did you sudo apt-get update before that?
[17:35] <shankhs> codeswing: couldnt upgrade to karmic
[17:35] <shankhs> ya
[17:35] <iholst> in the menu
[17:35] <codeswing> what are the major changes you like more
[17:35] <fluid> and he probably got tons of Ign lines like im getting
[17:35] <codeswing> shankhs: sad
[17:35] <TheCheeze> codeswing, i like it ok, just having some firefox-related issues with it
[17:36] <techno-geek> does anyone know what happened with the sound engine? they said they "reworked" it?
[17:36] <Berzerker-> shankhs, are you using the default sources for apt?
[17:36] <gharz> !bcm4312
[17:36] <techno-geek> in karmic
[17:36] <lemahdois> hi, i have a problem reading video on firefox
[17:36] <IndyGunFreak> iholst, right click the menu, edit the menu, on the left, choose the sub menu, on the right, highlight the launcher, click Properties, then clcik tghe "Icon" and it will open up a window to brose to a new icon
[17:36] <shankhs> Berzerker-: ya
[17:36] <MythGuy> TheCheeze: Do you mean Hardware Drivers? I'm not seeing profiles.
[17:36] <DopeGhoti> hanasaki: try sudo -u person2 "~person2/vnc4server :1"
[17:36] <Berzerker-> MythGuy, yes hardware drivers.
[17:36] <TheCheeze> MythGuy, oops, yes
[17:36] <yancho> osman_,  i installed ubuntu-restricted-extras to no avail :( still no flash and firefox finds no plugins
[17:36] <teddymills> debian is great, but more cranky than ubuntu
[17:36] <derek_smart> right now i want to now how do i partition correctly the drives i dont know for example how many drives and partitions to make
[17:36] <IndyGunFreak> gharz, soeone posted this earlier, it might help  http://jetpackweb.com/blog/2009/10/29/ubuntu-9-10-karmic-koala-and-broadcom-bcm4312/
[17:36] <Berzerker-> gharz, try sudo apt-get install bcwml-kernel-source dkms
[17:36] <th1> [manas], I suggest you buy a different one
[17:36] <fluid> i see like 3-5 people sitting here complaining about problems that stem from the same point.
[17:36] <th1> [manas], if you can
[17:37] <TheCheeze> now if someone can help me with my none of my apps will launch firefox since i upgraded, that would be great :)
[17:37] <happyface> How do I change grub2 menu settings in koala?
[17:37] <hanasaki> DopeGhoti:  no way... vnc4server is the command its in /usr/bin
[17:37] <IndyGunFreak> Berzerker, can you run that w/o internet access, w/ only the CD as the source?
[17:37] <Koterpillar> happyface, /etc/default/grup
[17:37] <MythGuy> Thank you!
[17:37] <Berzerker-> happyface, sudo pico /etc/default/grub
[17:37] <IndyGunFreak> or do you need net access?
[17:37] <Koterpillar> sorry, grub
[17:37] <Berzerker-> happyface, then when you're done, sudo update-grub
[17:37] <iholst> but how do I change it to one of my own icons
[17:37] <happyface> Thank you Koterpillar Berzerker
[17:37] <gharz> thanks, guys. i'll try this and i'll let you know
[17:37] <derek_smart> As per the ubuntu forums i think maybe i should format three partitions in total ONE fat for windows compatibalitay and one EXT3 for linuxens am i correct?
[17:37] <Scunizi> Berzerker-: is that where the new grub lives?  they changed it from /boot/grub ??
[17:38]  * IndyGunFreak hates grub2
[17:38] <DopeGhoti> hanasaki: try sudo -u person2 "cd ~person2/; pwd; /usr/bin/vnc4server :1"   perhaps?
[17:38] <[manas]> th1 u see what a new mother bored i bot like a couple months  ago but it was working in 9.4 ubuntu why not in 9.10
[17:38] <giacomo_c> ah, finally, thanks TheCheeze
[17:38] <jayce> QUESTION - Has anybody had trouble with karmic and adding drives to fstab to auto-mount drives when you boot up?
[17:38] <codeswing> tell me more about Karmic Koala people
[17:38] <TheCheeze> giacomo_c, worked for you i take it? glad to help :)
[17:38] <th1> Scunizi, the files in /boot/grub are generated from other ones :( and it's a mess the way it is done in 9.10
[17:38] <Laserbeak> hello I have 2 soundcards, both recognized by Alsamixer. all channels are unmuted and volume is up. the problem is, one is broken and i don't use it cause it outputs on one channel. the other works on every OS i've used it on, but gives me no sound on this installation. I've added myself tothe use audio devices group, plugged everything in and turned the speakers all the way up and still get nothing can someone pls help?
[17:38] <IndyGunFreak> codeswing, well what do you want to know?..
[17:38] <yancho> IndyGunFreak,   i installed ubuntu-restricted-extras to no avail :( still no flash and firefox finds no plugins
[17:38] <Scunizi> th1: wonderful .. :(
[17:38] <derek_smart> i have two soundcards two but i asked my question first
[17:39] <Younder> sound doesn't work in ununtu 9.10
[17:39] <iholst> codeswing: It has a new IM program
[17:39] <Berzerker-> Scunizi, it's still in /boot/grub, but the settings were moved to /etc/default/grub, it still generates /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[17:39] <th1> [manas], maybe the proprietary driver wasn't in use in 9.04? try disabling it.
[17:39] <iholst> its called empathy
[17:39] <gharz> Berzerker: it says bcwml-kernel-source and dkms are the newest versions
[17:39] <shankhs> I am dying to try karmic anybody please help me to upgrade
[17:39] <IndyGunFreak> yancho, told you, i have no idea about 64bit
[17:39] <Younder> How do I fix it
[17:39] <Scunizi> Berzerker-: so no more menu.lst?
[17:39] <IndyGunFreak> iholst, lol, a new IM program that sucks.
[17:39] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[17:39] <Berzerker-> Pidgin is miles ahead of empathy, IIRC
[17:39] <yancho> ok sorry IndyGunFreak  thanks
[17:39] <Berzerker-> Scunizi, nope.
[17:39] <Berzerker-> IMO*
[17:39] <[manas]> th1 how??
[17:39] <codeswing> IndyGunFreak: all great things
[17:39] <DopeGhoti> shankhs: update-manager should see that the new release is available
[17:39] <giacomo_c> TheCheeze: yeah, well i had to choose the right device under the output tab, and then it worked.  (my internal card doesn't work, so i have a usb audio adapter that i had to select)
[17:39] <DopeGhoti> is 910's wireless support any better than Jaunty's?  I'm having wifi issues with an old laptop I'm trying to ressurect
[17:39] <th1> [manas], it surely sounds like the gfx card is bad. But if you only bought it a couple months ago it should have warranty still?
[17:39] <Scunizi> Berzerker-: new things to learn all the time..
[17:39] <iholst> Pidgin is better than empathy
[17:39] <Laserbeak> derek_smart: excuse me? :)
[17:39] <IndyGunFreak> codeamuk, just google it, there's info out there, this is a support channel
[17:39] <shankhs> DopeGhoti: it isnt thats the problem
[17:39] <Younder> sound doesn't work in ununtu 9.10
[17:39] <codeswing> iholst: im = pidgin right ?
[17:39] <jayce> QUESTION - Has anybody had trouble with karmic and adding drives to fstab to auto-mount drives when you boot up?
[17:39] <DopeGhoti> shankhs: try "update-manager -d"
[17:39] <Younder> How do I fix it
[17:40] <iholst> yes
[17:40] <Grozzy> Hi, my windows lags very much!
[17:40] <plb__> Hm how come there is no install option for ubuntu-restricted in software center?
[17:40] <Koterpillar> !anybody | jayce
[17:40] <gharz> be right back and do a restart
[17:40] <IndyGunFreak> iholst, i had a problem w/ 2.5.2 crashing constantly... upgraded to 2.5.3, and its working great
[17:40] <Alien_Freak> I was running the beta of 9.10 .. do I need to do anything special to convert to the "stable"
[17:40] <Alien_Freak> or just update-manager -c
[17:40] <derek_smart> i said i have two sound cards dont need to get juicy
[17:40] <xangua> hi everyone, yesterday i updated to karmic and now when i turn on my pc it first starts normal but after a while it gets slower; and then after 15 or 30 minutes it shut down with no reason
[17:40] <Laserbeak> juicy?
[17:40] <Berzerker-> Alien_Freak, sudo apt-get upgrade sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[17:40] <hanasaki> DopeGhoti:  the isuse is that vnc does not see that it is a new suer ID for running
[17:40] <shankhs> DopeGhoti: I have did it like 100 times still no use
[17:40] <th1> [manas], go into System->Administration->Hardware Drivers and then select the driver that's enabeld and click Remove
[17:40] <iholst> IndyGunFreak: you mean Pidgin
[17:40] <[manas]> th1 i bot on ebay so no garanty are u sure it card bad???
[17:40] <DopeGhoti> Alien_Freak: just run update-manager and you'll be running the released version
[17:40] <jayce> koterpillar - Actually, if you notice, I did ask a question. It's a broad question. Does anybody have issues with fstab. Fstab mounts drives. It either does or does not. If I'm having issues, most people would suspect that it is NOT working properly. ;) Thanks, though.
[17:40]  * Laserbeak shrugs
[17:40] <jayce> QUESTION - Has anybody had trouble with karmic and adding drives to fstab to auto-mount drives when you boot up?
[17:40] <th1> [manas], only 80% sure
[17:40] <Berzerker-> jayce, no
[17:40] <x_> ola
[17:41] <IndyGunFreak> iholst, yeah, pidgin 2.5.2, vs 2.5.3
[17:41] <IdleOne> shankhs: sudo do-release-upgrade
[17:41] <jayce> Berzerker - do you have multiple drives in your karmic system?
[17:41] <Berzerker-> jayce, yes, they auto-mount fine
[17:41] <derek_smart> problem: i have a usb dongle that i want to plug but i dont know if its supported in ubuntu
[17:41] <xangua> hi everyone, yesterday i updated to karmic and now when i turn on my pc it first starts normal but after a while it gets slower; and then after 15 or 30 minutes it shut down with no reason. Can someone help me ¿
[17:41] <iholst> hmm, I dont know much about it, I just use it
[17:41] <DopeGhoti> shankhs: sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade; sudo do-release-upgrade
[17:41] <shankhs> IdleOne: tried that one and its giving : shankhs@shankhs-desktop:~$ sudo do-release-upgrade Checking for a new ubuntu release No new release found
[17:41] <jayce> berzerker - Do you mount by Device ID or UUID?
[17:41] <th1> derek_smart, try to plug it in and find out
[17:41] <Koterpillar> jayce, well, everything mounts fine... and still, a specific question would be better
[17:41] <[manas]> th1 can we test it some how??
[17:41] <vadash> hi to all!
[17:41] <th1> [manas], first try to disable the driver
[17:41] <Koterpillar> jayce, I plug by UUID
[17:41] <giacomo_c> derek_smart: what kinda usb dongle is it?
[17:41] <Berzerker-> jayce, device ID, but everyone is different.
[17:42] <jayce> kotepillar - did you add your UUID entries to fstab yourself?
[17:42] <IndyGunFreak> iholst, sorry, that should be 2.6.2, and 2.6.3.. i dunno what the prob was, it was randomly crashing on my laptop, but worked fine on my PC.. i upgraded via the pidgin repository, and it has worked perfect, go figure
[17:42] <derek_smart> im ashamed to specify its kind of private and embarrising
[17:42] <Koterpillar> jayce, yes
[17:42] <Younder> sound doesn't work in ununtu 9.10
[17:42] <Younder> How do I fix it
[17:42] <xangua> hi everyone, yesterday i updated to karmic and now when i turn on my pc it first starts normal but after a while it gets slower; and then after 15 or 30 minutes it shut down with no reason. Can someone help me ¿
[17:42] <derek_smart> if i explained the dongle i would get kicked
[17:42] <jayce> koterpillar - gahhhhhh.
[17:42] <derek_smart> its for adults
[17:42] <giacomo_c> hahaha
[17:42] <Berzerker-> Younder, sudo apt-get install alsa
[17:42] <Younder> This is booring
[17:42] <th1> derek_smart, then why does it need USB ?!
[17:42] <jayce> koterpillar - I have 4 drives in my system. 1 main, 3 backups. I added the 3 backups to fstab, just like I did in 7.10, 8.04, 8.10, 9.04, etc. Yet they dont mount properly in karmic.
[17:42] <derek_smart> ...because it vibrates
[17:42] <iholst> IndyGunFreak : sorry, Im new to ubuntu and dont know much about it, or the programs
[17:42] <giacomo_c> well, its freakin linux, if it doesn't work off the bat, im sure you could get it to work
[17:42] <vadash> I have upgraded to 9.10 but my touchpad dont work
[17:42] <mathieu> hello can someone help me... I have a ATI mobility radeon HD 3400 series and I cant activate desktop effects and I have done the hardware driver check. what can I do?
[17:42] <Laserbeak> derek_smart: sounds juicy
[17:42] <[manas]> th1 disabled same shi..
[17:42] <th1> derek_smart, it probably only uses power from the USB so it doesn't need a driver
[17:42] <jayce> koterpillar - when I try to access the "mounted" drives, it errors out and sa ys only root can mount these devices.
[17:42] <madsen> cant one use windows share name e.g. //server/folder instead of //ip/folder when mounting with cifs under ubuntu ??
[17:43] <TheCheeze> derek_smart, if ther eis no software that goes with it, it should work. the usb still outputs the same voltage regardless
[17:43] <shankhs> DopeGhoti: getting : Err http://in.archive.ubuntu.com jaunty-updates Release
[17:43] <Koterpillar> jayce, what does mount -a say?
[17:43] <Laserbeak> yeah unless it has roleplay drivers
[17:43] <IndyGunFreak> iholst, oh ok.. no big deal.. i wasn't really looking for a solution, just couldn't figur eout why it worked on one, and not on the other.. :)...
[17:43] <DopeGhoti> shankhs: have you tried changing to a different apt repo?
[17:43] <jayce> koterpillar - gahh... I wish I could tell you. I'm at work now...
[17:43] <DopeGhoti> shankhs: the one you're using may not have updated yet for some reason
[17:43] <shankhs> DopeGhoti: trying
[17:44] <iholst> IndyGunFreak : how would I change the icon of a launcher to one of my own pictures
[17:44] <derek_smart> ive been told that instead of drivers its all about the modules rage in linux, how do i find out if this dongle uses a module or a driver or a what the hey
[17:44] <Kuprin> hey ubuntu guys, I just installed 9.10, and tried Exaile. Great player, but if it's playing when I close it, it keeps going and I have NO IDEA how to make it stop. I've tried kill/killall, there's no icon, and running its own script doesn't give me any ui.
[17:44] <jayce> koterpillar - I was just trying to find if more people had this issue. I asked in here earlier and like 4 people said they too were having issues with fstab in karmic.
[17:44] <IdleOne> shankhs: also make sure your updates are set to normal in Software Sources
[17:44] <IndyGunFreak> iholst, int he menu?
[17:44] <vadash> I have upgraded to 9.10 but my touchpad dont work
[17:44] <shankhs> IdleOne: ya checked
[17:44] <iholst> yes
[17:44] <agentbob> can someone help me with a apt-get problem? trying to install libapache2-mod-php5 but getting the following error: http://pastebin.com/de8b3610
[17:44] <xangua> hi everyone, yesterday i updated to karmic and now when i turn on my pc it first starts normal but after a while it gets slower; and then after 15 or 30 minutes it shut down with no reason. Can someone help me ¿+
[17:44] <Koterpillar> jayce, it's helpful usually. It either mounts it, or tells why it can't. And then syslog will contain the information
[17:44] <TheCheeze> derek_smart, try a ubuntu cd-rom and use it as a live disc to see if it works?
[17:44] <DopeGhoti> Kuprin: look at the output of pstree -p; that will show you everything running on your system with the PIDs to kill
[17:45] <th1> xangua, it probably needs activation have you entered your CD key ;)
[17:45] <derek_smart> ok ill report my findings
[17:45] <jayce> koterpillar - I remember it saying something in regard to only root can mount this partition....
[17:45] <IndyGunFreak> iholst, right click the menu, choose edit menu, on the left, choose the sub menu, then on the right, highlight the launcer, then click properties, then click the icon, then use the next window to browse to the new icon
[17:45] <dr3mro> plz help me fix dpi of my screen .. not of fonts i need to change the global dpi i used to change through add -dpi 85 to xserver of gdm but the new gdm properties has no x srver config and gdm.conf is far different
[17:45] <ais523> xangua: try running top in a terminal while it's on
[17:45] <xangua> th1: activation of what¿¿ i updated from jaunty
[17:45] <th1> xangua, oh wait that's another OS :)
[17:45] <Koterpillar> jayce, well, then you didn't write the line properly. Paste the line?
[17:45] <Alien_Freak> thanks Berzerker , DopeGhoti
[17:45] <ais523> xangua: look for processes which are taking much more CPU and/or memory than they should
[17:45] <th1> xangua, it was just a silly joke ;)
[17:45] <xangua> .........................
[17:45] <iholst> IndyGunFreak, none of the pictures will show up
[17:45] <[manas]> th1 maybe i should reintalled hole ubuntu, i remeber long time ago i was playing whit the drivers trying to get mythtv and something else too
[17:45] <jayce> koterpillar - what line? the UUID entry in fstab?
[17:46] <Kuprin> DopeGhoti, Yeah, I see the parent process, but killing it by number doesn't DO ANYTHING.
[17:46] <Koterpillar> xangua, System - Administrations - System Monitor
[17:46] <Koterpillar> jayce, yes
[17:46] <th1> [manas], I don't guess it will help but you can try of course
[17:46] <erana> dr3mro: try -dpi 100
[17:46] <xangua> is geting slower, in any minute may shutdown
[17:46] <xangua> with no reason :(
[17:46] <DopeGhoti> Kuprin: try kill -9 PID
[17:46] <IndyGunFreak> iholst, none of them will show up?.
[17:46] <th1> xangua, try to run "top" from inside terminal
[17:46] <dr3mro> erana, where ??
[17:46] <Kuprin> DopeGhoti, that killed it, what was that flag?
[17:46] <IndyGunFreak> iholst, what menu item are you trying to change?
[17:46] <iholst> IndyGunFreak: nope
[17:46] <jayce> koterpillar - Well, I'm using the same fstab I've used in previous ubuntu versions... and it worked then but not now... but I posted on forums about this issue, so I can dig it up and copy the line, 1 second.
[17:46] <mathieu> hello can someone help me... I have a ATI mobility radeon HD 3400 series and I cant activate desktop effects and I have done the hardware driver check. what can I do?
[17:46] <jayce> koterpillar - UUID=b2354e40-cd24-41eb-b41b-0aadc9933166 /media/localbackup ext3 defaults 0 2
[17:46] <Koterpillar> xangua, might also be overheating! Check temp in BIOS after restart
[17:46] <vadash> I have upgraded to 9.10 but my touchpad dont work can someone help me?
[17:46] <[manas]> th1 cos i dont know what else to do, can we test a card ???
[17:46] <iholst> IndyGunFreak: The powder Toy
[17:46] <DopeGhoti> Kuprin: -9 sends a SIGKILL signal rather than SIGTERM; it's a more… impolite way to kill a process
[17:47] <agentbob> can anyone help with this: The following packages have unmet dependencies: libapache2-mod-php5: Conflicts: libapache2-mod-php5filter but 5.2.6-2ubuntu4.3 is to be installed
[17:47] <iholst> I made a custom launcher
[17:47] <agentbob> ?
[17:47] <DopeGhoti> Kuprin: basically, "Die, now." rather than "please shut yourself down."
[17:47] <Kuprin> DopeGhoti, ahh, gotcha, thanks. Anyway, any idea what might be causing the exaile problem in the first place?
[17:47] <th1> [manas], you can try with driver from Nvidia's website
[17:47] <IndyGunFreak> iholst, ok, did you download n icon for it?
[17:47] <Koterpillar> jayce, if it wasn't mounted during boot, there were some errors. mount -a will try again, after that you have to look in syslog
[17:47] <ck773> mathieu: is your card in the hardware compatibility list?
[17:47] <DopeGhoti> Kuprin: sorry, not familiar with the program
[17:47] <iholst> no
[17:47] <th1> [manas] http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html
[17:47] <iholst> It didnt come with one
[17:47] <erana> mathieu: try vesa for example
[17:47] <jayce> koterpillar - so just run sudo mount -a /dev/sdb1 /media/localbackup on my own in term and check syslog afterwards?
[17:47] <IndyGunFreak> iholst, ok, did you download one for it?
[17:48] <iholst> IndyGunFreak, no
[17:48] <fluid> so what do i do if nothing is listed in Hardware Drivers?
[17:48] <IndyGunFreak> iholst, well that would be the first thing to do,is download an icon for it
[17:48] <iholst> IndyGunFreak, what format
[17:48] <mathieu> im shure its a driver... somthing .run
[17:48] <Kuprin> Aha. It seems when it's playing something from Unknown it doesn't like terminating properly. It's something plugin-related.
[17:48] <IndyGunFreak> or use one of the default ones.. but it may not be the exact icon for that app.
[17:48] <Koterpillar> jayce, just mount -a will attempt to mount everything in fstab (again). You can also try mount /dev... /media... , but i wasn't sure what driver did you want to mount
[17:48] <Kuprin> Seems I'm best off trying to get Audacious to work with Ubuntu >_>
[17:48] <IndyGunFreak> iholst, jpg or png usually work best.. whats the app called again?
[17:49] <Midnight> hi
[17:49] <dawit> Hello! New to irc! can somebody help, please?
[17:49] <Koterpillar> How do I make deskbar applet look like http://www.nongnu.org/gnomolicious/pixmaps/deskbar.png ?
[17:49] <jayce> koterpillar - I can mount in terminal with the mount command. sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/localbackup mounts the drive perfectly fine. Its just fstab is erroring out. And I know I have the right UUID... I copied it right from terminal when I ran blkid to find the UUID of the drives....
[17:49] <mathieu> ... theres a wiki page page it
[17:49] <iholst> IndyGunFreak, Its just one exe file
[17:49] <[manas]> th1 how i can found out my gpu version ???
[17:49] <stz184> I have problem with xandr and Ubuntu 9.10. Please help!
[17:49] <IndyGunFreak> iholst, did you install it in wine?
[17:49] <Scunizi> dawit: you just ask your question.. don't wait for someone to ask what you want to ask
[17:49] <mathieu> i mean theres a wiki page on it
[17:49] <bratiz> how can 1 make ubuntuu looksz like Mac?
[17:49] <netbook> Hi, I have just updated using Update Manager and I still have "Capabilities mismatch"
[17:49] <netbook> anyone know how to fix this?
[17:49] <iholst> IndyGunFreak, no, and I have an icon (png) but it doesnt show up
[17:49] <niuniek> Siema
[17:49] <Koterpillar> jayce, so is it mounted or not?
[17:50] <dawit> Thanks scunizi
[17:50] <erana> bratiz: gtk , mac theme e.themes.org
[17:50] <IndyGunFreak> iholst, doesnt show up?
[17:50] <IndyGunFreak> you mean when you browse ?
[17:50] <dawit> This is so exciting to talk to you guys ... I'm from Ethiopia
[17:50] <iholst> IndyGunFreak, exactly
[17:50] <Koterpillar> jayce, to be sure, run mount -a, that's what happens when you start the system
[17:50] <Koterpillar> (with root, of course)
[17:50] <th1> [manas], check here: http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/190.42/README/appendix-a.html
[17:50] <Scunizi> netbook: I hate to take you to terminal but go there and do the following.. sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade .. this might fix all your woes but maybe not.  worth a shot.
[17:50] <xangua> agg my pc shuted down and is superheat
[17:51] <IndyGunFreak> iholst, it won't.. all your doing is selecting a directory.. navigate to the directory you want, hit OK, and when the next window comes up, any picture file will be in the window, choose it
[17:51] <dj_> bratiz: thanx it worked
[17:51] <iholst> IndyGunFreak, ohhhhhhh
[17:51] <netbook> Alright i'll try it scunizi
[17:51] <dj_> bratiz: you are genius rar man
[17:51] <bratiz> how can make ubuntu in2 lookz like mac with GUI??
[17:51] <jayce> koterpillar - all right. I'll run mount -a when I get home. Im juust saying, I can mount fine in terminal by device ID. But fstab and UUID just doesnt do it automatically without erroring out. But Ill give it a shot when I get home
[17:51] <iholst> IndyGunFreak, Thank you so much
[17:51] <xangua> agg my pc shuted down with no reason and is superheat. How can i fix it¿ (updated from jaunty to karmic)
[17:51] <dawit> I want to start a loco team and contribute to Ubuntu ... how do I go about doing that ... and specifically start an IRC channel for the team?
[17:51] <ck773> mathieu: https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/catalyst_86_linux.html
[17:51] <ohmy> hi
[17:51] <IndyGunFreak> iholst, np, misunderstood the problem
[17:51] <daevski> I need grub help: I just installed Karmic (Kubuntu) side by side with Jaunty (Ubuntu) -- Now Kubuntu owns the boot -- I just did grub-install /dev/sda4 from Ubuntu, but grub still uses Kubuntu's grub :(
[17:51] <ohmy> I'd like to know if some of you have installed KDevelop on Karmic please
[17:52] <jar> Anyone notice that Firefox and QT apps behave under different font hinting settings than normal gtk/gnome apps? I changed the font hinting styles in GNOME's preferences but qt and Firefox still behave under the default settings.
[17:52] <iholst> IndyGunFreak,  it worked, thank you
[17:52] <IndyGunFreak> iholst, np...
[17:52] <jj__> ubuntu italia?
[17:52] <Koterpillar> xangua, System - Administration - System Monitor - Processes. Who's taking up most CPU?
[17:52] <Younder> my sound still doesn't work (ubuntu 9.10 update)
[17:52] <ohmy> I'm using Karmic, i've expected that KDevelop will have the same projects templates as the previous versions
[17:52] <Scunizi> daevski: then grub is on a different drive.
[17:52] <LjL> !it | jj__
[17:52] <bratiz> dj_: hey cool bro
[17:52] <xangua> Koterpillar: "gnome do"
[17:52] <Koterpillar> xangua, it might also be overheating by itself. Check the hardware, if unsure, turn it off to avoid damage
[17:52] <ripps> daevski: first, try `sudo os-prober && sudo update-grub`
[17:52] <xangua> it's using like 25 mb
[17:52] <daevski> Scunizi both installs are on sda, just seperate partitions.
[17:53] <Younder> I reinstalled the asla driver already, no joy
[17:53] <ohmy> KDevelop Only allows Qt based project or simple 'Hello world' applications, Where's gone Autotool project templates and the rest please .?
[17:53] <xangua> Koterpillar: this wasn't a problem in jaunty
[17:53] <Koterpillar> xangua, kill it and uninstall
[17:53] <[manas]> th1 u know what let me try to reintall
[17:53] <Koterpillar> then troubleshoot :)
[17:53] <daevski> ripps: one sec to check, that sounds good. brb
[17:53] <th1> [manas], ok good luck
[17:53] <Koterpillar> at least you will have a working computer...
[17:53] <erana> ohmy: try the share dirts
[17:54] <Koterpillar> AFAIK Gnome DO is still unstable
[17:54] <Younder> my sound still doesn't work (ubuntu 9.10 update)
[17:54] <Younder> I reinstalled the asla driver already, no joy
[17:54] <MK13> what is the command for making a file executable?
[17:54] <dawit> *hmm ... * I was hoping to find some help ... scunizi or anybody, please?
[17:54] <erana> MK134 : chmod +x filename
[17:54] <MK13> erana, thanks
[17:54] <bratiz> iz nobody know.. how i can make ubuntu look like a mac in the ui?
[17:54] <erana> Younder: try OSS
[17:54] <zleap> MK13, i would use man chmod to find out more about the chmod command too
[17:55] <daevski> ripps: Well os-prober wasn't found, but I updated grub. I fear my kubuntu still owns it though.
[17:55] <arun_palal> i am using ubuntu 9.04 . i want a scanner driver for my epson cx2800 .may somebody help me
[17:55] <preetam> hi anybody has upgraded from ubuntu 9.04 to 9.10..any issue in the upgradation
[17:55] <daevski> ripps: Grub-install should have fixed it, I thought...
[17:55] <MK13> i am hating this new way to add a new OS to grub menu....
[17:55] <th1> bratiz, check this one: http://maketecheasier.com/turn-your-ubuntu-hardy-to-mac-osx-leopard/2008/07/23
[17:55] <Sirex> im finding firefox in karmic is having a real trouble with dns resolution, even though resolv.conf looks fine.
[17:56] <ripps> daevski: install os-prober, it scans all your harddisks in device.map for viable boots and adds them to you grub2 config
[17:56] <dawit> some help on how to start an IRC channel, please?
[17:56] <blubbar> bratiz: http://maketecheasier.com/turn-your-ubuntu-hardy-to-mac-osx-leopard/2008/07/23
[17:56] <ironfoot495> Hello can someone help find a way to install desktop on my 9.10 server
[17:56] <erana> Younder: Open Source Sound , oss.org
[17:56] <grawity> dawit: /join #channel-name
[17:56] <preecher> a few hours ago someone said that if you upgraded from 9.04 instead of doing a fresh install it would be more "buggy"- i am not having any problems that i know of but i went ahead and dloaded the iso--since i did the upgrade would i be better off to do a install from the cd or should i be ok?
[17:56] <th1> blubbar, lol alraedy posted that to him ;)
[17:56] <derek_smart> ok the dongle works as expected
[17:56] <gharz> shifteleven & berzerker: i finally made it work... i just followed this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1288865
[17:56] <derek_smart> what the modules
[17:56] <gharz> now it's working!!!!
[17:56] <gharz> thanks
[17:57] <DopeGhoti> preecher: if it ain't broke, don't break it :)  I'd say ou're probably fine :)
[17:57] <aresnick> Hi!  I was wondering where I might find out about how to shrink an LVM partition without losing data?  Gparted doesn't seem to support lvm.
[17:57] <zleap> anyone giving away ubuntu cd's to trick or treaters tomorrow :)
[17:57] <erana> ironfoot495: apt-get install x-window-system
[17:57] <mcphail> preecher: only reinstall if you are running into major problems
[17:57] <dawit> grawity, explain more, please
[17:57] <DopeGhoti> zleap: that's a brilliant idea!
[17:57] <daevski> ripps: I have a hunch I don't know how to confirm... Kubuntu is using grub.cfg as a menu.lst, while Ubuntu is using menu.lst -- are they different versions of grub?
[17:57] <bman> smoak moar
[17:57] <zleap> one of the reasons I am making copies now
[17:57] <dawit> I need to START (CREATE) an IRC
[17:57] <ripps> daevski: depends on which os was installed last. The last one is the one that is written to you MBR
[17:58] <zleap> however I have rugby training sunday so can give some away then
[17:58] <arun_palal> i am using ubuntu 9.04 . i want a scanner driver for my epson styluscx2800 .may somebody help me
[17:58] <grawity> dawit: I KNOW, RIGHT? NO NEED TO SHOUT.
[17:58] <preecher> DopeGhoti, and mcphail  thx and ok
[17:58] <preecher> \
[17:58] <SteveVinci> helllloooo every one
[17:58] <blubbar> th1: oh so you also know the magic of google :)
[17:58] <th1> blubbar, yep :)
[17:58] <grawity> dawit: Further IRC-related questions go to #freenode.
[17:58] <preecher> DopeGhoti, and mcphail  thx and ok
[17:58] <osubuck> just installed 9.10, very nice and extremely smooth
[17:58] <ripps> daevski: in this case, you should be using the one supplied by karmic, because it has the highest compatiblity, especially when used with os-prober
[17:58] <daevski> ripps: Correct, Kubuntu was last, as a trial. I want my Ubuntu back as MBR owner :(
[17:58] <dawit> I didn't mean to, sorry
[17:58] <Younder> that is the most annoying web site in history
[17:59] <rosebj> anyone know how to get 9.10 not resume from suspend whena laptop lid is lifted?
[17:59] <erana> arun_palal: google: epson site:hp.com
[17:59] <boscop> what does this mean? "The NetworkManager applet could not find some required resources.  It cannot continue."
[17:59] <DopeGhoti> rosebj: look in power management, I'd guess
[17:59] <dawit> grawity: so I just type "#freenode"?
[17:59] <arun_palal> thanks . let me try
[17:59] <ironfoot495> erana: Thanks I really appreciate that.
[17:59] <grawity> dawit: ...no.
[17:59] <IdleOne> dawit: /join #freenode
[17:59] <ripps> daevski: you can add custom entries to your grub by modifyin files in you Karmic's /etc/grub.d and regenerating your grub.cfg with update-grub
[17:59] <rosebj> DopeGhoti, It doesnt have any settings for lifting the lid
[17:59] <Counterspell> I'm having trouble saving the settings in the Qt Configuration utility. I am increasing the font-size and going to File > Save. I close then reopen the Qt Configuration utility and the settings were in fact not saved. Also set settings don't appear to effect any Qt applications.
[18:00] <derek_smart> how do i render the ubuntu modules?
[18:00] <dawit> grawity & IdelOne: Thanks guys, but, obviously, I am new to this thing :)
[18:00] <derek_smart> someone told me grep was a good idea but i dont know what thats all about
[18:01] <grawity> dawit: To join a channel, type /join #channel-name
[18:01] <derek_smart> GREP
[18:01] <bman> grep++
[18:01] <derek_smart> GREPS
[18:01] <daevski> ripps: But if I do that, I can't delete the Karmic partition, correct?
[18:01] <dawit> grawity & IdleOne: will I leave this "room" and not talk to you guys anymore? (I sort of like the talk here)
[18:01] <grawity> dawit: If the channel did not exist, it will be created automatically.
[18:01] <erana> derek_smart: man grep or grep keyword filenames
[18:01] <grawity> dawit: So now join #freenode.
[18:01] <jan__> Hey. After connecting a second monitor to my freshly installed 9.10 box and configuring it using gnome-display-properties, the gnome-panel stays on the first one and isn't displayed on the second one. How can I change this to be the other way around?
[18:01] <ripps> daevski: no, you couldn't
[18:01] <_akahige_> nautilus has decided that it doesn't want to display all of the contents of a certain directory. it opens it, displays the subdirectories and a few text files (possibly all of them), but none of the rest of the files. the progress throbber just sits there and spins. any way to fix that without restarting the entire desktop?
[18:01] <yancho>  anyone can help me get flash 10 work on ubuntu 9.04's firefox 3.5 please? I tried: http://queleimporta.com/en/finally-adobe-releases-native-64-bit-flash-10-for-linux/ and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash#flashtrouble to no avail .. any help is super appreciated :)
[18:01] <grawity> dawit: No, you can be in as many channels as you want.
[18:01] <erana> derek_smart : also try egrep
[18:01] <acr0nym> hello everyone, quick question, I want to build a minimal ubuntu version without any apps.. what would be the best way to approach this?
[18:01] <IdleOne> dawit: no it should open another window
[18:01] <grawity> dawit: (Technically, there _is_ a limit of channels per network, but it doesn't matter yet.)
[18:02] <daevski> ripps: :( the goal is to give /sda4 back the MBR, so I can delete the Karic... Any ideas?
[18:02] <erana> acr0nym: try the debian floppys
[18:02] <trism> acr0nym: get the alternate cd and do a command line install, then install any extras you want
[18:02] <DopeGhoti> acr0nym: start with Ubuntu server edition, NBR, or xubuntu, I'd say
[18:02] <IdleOne> !minimal | acr0nym
[18:02] <acr0nym> thanks trism :)
[18:02] <dawit> grawity & IdleOne: I feel at home already! So, IRC works, really! Cool stuff man!
[18:02] <ripps> daevski: you can boot back into your older ubuntu os, you can reinstall it's grub into your mbr, so it ignore's karmic's
[18:02] <legend2440> arun_palal: install libsane-extras from synaptic. i think that works with that scanner according to this  http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/karmic/man5/sane-epkowa.5.html
[18:02] <nefast> Hello everyone.
[18:02] <xanwito> hello there thsi is XANGUA , now i am in windows and ubuntu just keep shuting down and overheating
[18:03] <boscop> what does this mean? "The NetworkManager applet could not find some required resources.  It cannot continue."
[18:03] <Untouchab1e> hi.. Having some problems here.. Running Ubuntu 9.10 x86.. Trying to kill x-server, but sudo gdm stop just gives me a "Failed to acquire org.gnome.DisplayManager error :/
[18:03] <xanwito> what can I do¡¡¡
[18:03] <chieh> hello, for ubuntu 9.1 server, can somebody explain to me what EC2-based private cloud capability means?
[18:03] <derek_smart> chieh: someone told me to grep
[18:03] <xanwito> hello there thsi is XANGUA , now i am in windows and ubuntu just keep shuting down and overheating ; what can I do¡¡¡
[18:03] <Royall> Compiz isn't working
[18:03] <derek_smart> chieh: /etc
[18:03] <daevski> ripps: I thought I did that from older OS with 'grub-install /dev/sda4' -- but after reboot I still had Karmic menu.
[18:03] <Scunizi> Untouchab1e: try sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[18:03] <dawit> grawity & IdleOne: Thanks a million guys and (grawity: thanks for accepting my apologies!)
[18:03] <chieh> what?
[18:03] <JoeSomebody> hi, i am downloading 9.10, but i cant find 9.10 docs, do they exist?
[18:03] <Untouchab1e> Scunizi, tried that, but it just tells me to use gdm stop instead >.<
[18:03] <ColtonLee> i need help with wireless on karmic
[18:03] <IdleOne> dawit: no problem, anytime. Welcome to Ubuntu!
[18:04] <soreau> Royall: What happens if you set sys>prefs>Appearance>Visual Effects tab to Extra?
[18:04] <chieh> i'm just curious what the EC2 feature means....
[18:04] <Scunizi> Untouchab1e: what happens when you do that?
[18:04] <Untouchab1e> then I get the error mentioned above
[18:04] <xanwito> hello there , now i am in windows and ubuntu just keep shuting down and overheating ; what can I do??
[18:04] <Scunizi> soreau: your eyes will spin in your head :)
[18:04] <Untouchab1e> and if I cant kill the  x-server, im screwed.. cuz then I cant install the nvidia drivers
[18:05] <derek_smart> chieh: use grep
[18:05] <daevski> ripps: Is grub-install from the old OS correct. or should I try update-grub or... ? they seem to be the same to me. No way to reclaim the MBR for older OS?
[18:05] <derek_smart> chieh: someone told me grep is good in ubuntu
[18:05] <xanwito> hello there , now i am in windows and ubuntu just keep shuting down and overheating ; what can I do??
[18:05] <proteusguy> Got Karmic Koala. Everything's great except audio mostly doesn't work. Specifically Xine seems useless and it's the only engine installed that PulseAudio can get to. Are there other backend engine options?
[18:05] <Scunizi> Untouchab1e: right... have you done all the updates already?
[18:05] <dr3mro> plz help me to set the xrandr --fbmm 339x212 i type it in terminal nothing happms
[18:05] <Royall> soreau: visual effects can not be enabled or something
[18:05] <MK13> does anyone here know how to convert an old menu.lst entry to the new format for grub2?
[18:05] <daevski> ripps: Sorry :-p I'm still a litttle confused.
[18:05] <Untouchab1e> Scunizi, Indeed I have.. all three of them
[18:05] <chieh> is that suppose to be a joke?
[18:05] <MK13> Untouchab1e, what are you trying to do?
[18:05] <soreau> Royall: Can you pastebin the output of 'compiz &' from your terminal to pastebin.com?
[18:05] <Untouchab1e> MK13, I am trying to kill X-server
[18:05] <ripps> daevski: actually I don't think grub-instal writes to mbr, check out this link http://maketecheasier.com/how-to-restore-grub-in-ubuntu/2008/04/11
[18:05] <r3cord> I messed up owners and permissions (with chown) in /usr and sudo is not working anymore (it's not setuid anymore). Should i make a complete re-install or can recover owners and permissions somehow?
[18:05] <Scunizi> Untouchab1e: only 3 huh.. I haven't upgraded so I'm not aware of how many there are..
[18:06] <MK13> Untouchab1e, what have you tried so far?
[18:06] <nefast> Just a quick question, when upgrading from 9.04 to 9.10 using the alternate iso, no personal files get deleted? [just to be certain]
[18:06] <Untouchab1e> but sudo gdm stop just gives me a error: "Failed to acquire org.gnome.DisplayManager".. "Could not acquire name; bailing out"
[18:06] <ColtonLee> jow do i get my belkin n wireless adapter to work when windows when ndisgtk shows that the hardware is not present and i have tried rebooting
[18:06] <z987k> I just upgraded to 9.10, and it broke my network.  Everything was working perfect before, but now I cannot see other computers on the network(linux) and they cannot see me
[18:06] <dawit> IdleOne: thanks so much!!! This is so real, you know what I mean?!
[18:06] <shankhs> DopeGhoti: Now this will kill me. I changed the server and used normal updates and when i did this:  shankhs@shankhs-desktop:~$ sudo do-release-upgrade  Checking for a new ubuntu release No new release found
[18:06] <xanwito> hello there , now i am in windows and ubuntu just keep shuting down and overheating ; what can I do??
[18:06] <Untouchab1e> Scunizi, considering 9.10 was just released, its not that surprising.. but still.. I should be able to kill the x-server
[18:06] <ergy> is it safe to use gnome shell on ubuntu karmic?
[18:06] <Scunizi> Untouchab1e: use nicks or your replies will get lost in the noise..
[18:06] <derek_smart> z987k: you have to use grep i think im trying to fix things in ubuntu too
[18:06] <Royall> soreau: http://pastebin.com/d4da3a382
[18:06] <Royall> also
[18:07] <Royall> os[Linux 2.6.28-11-generic i686] distro[Ubuntu "karmic" 9.10] cpu[2 x Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU     T5750  @ 2.00GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 2.00GHz] mem[Physical: 2.9GB, 90.1% free] disk[Total: 549.4GB, 16.3% free] video[Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller] sound[HDA-Intel - HDA Intel]
[18:07] <FloodBot3> Royall: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:07] <dawit> grawity & IdleOne: I successfully joined the freenode ... but it's sort of quiet in there ... :)
[18:07] <Scunizi> Untouchab1e: yes you should.. perhaps boot into the recovery mode and drop to the shell from there..
[18:07] <Lapinux> can one upgrade from 9.10 beta, and if so is it a good idea?
[18:07] <MK13> Untouchab1e, what error are you getting when trying to kill X?
[18:07] <ripps> daevski: you'll probably have to do that from a jaunty livecd
[18:07] <z987k> derek_smart, what about grep?
[18:07] <Untouchab1e> MK13 I just told you..
[18:07] <JoeSomebody> hi, anyone, I cant find 9.10 docs, do they exist? I would think https://help.ubuntu.com/
[18:07] <Iuly> hi everybody ! I am trying to create an USB start up disc, but is not working, says " cannot determinate number of partition" I use ubuntu 9.04 and I try to create a start up usb with UNR 9.10
[18:07] <DopeGhoti> shankhs: you sure you're not already running Karmic? ;)
[18:07] <Untouchab1e> "Failed to acquire org.gnome.DisplayManager".. "Could not acquire name; bailing out"
[18:07] <Scunizi> Lapinux: just do your updates and you'll be there automatically
[18:07] <shankhs> DopeGhoti: ya
[18:07] <ais523> chieh: see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazon_EC2>; the Ubuntu thing is similar
[18:07] <IdleOne> dawit: if you like there is also #ubuntu-offtopic ( random chat ) we try to keep this channel for support related topics only
[18:07] <derek_smart> z987k: use grep in the network files and search
[18:07] <shankhs> DopeGhoti: very much
[18:07] <daevski> ripps: Hmm. Okay. Thank you a lot for all your help :)
[18:07] <ais523> Lapinux: yes, the beta will upgrade to the release version if you just update normally, and it is a good idea
[18:07] <grawity> dawit: #freenode is a help channel - and it's only active when people ask for help
[18:08] <z987k> derek_smart, I don't even know what I'm searching for though
[18:08] <chieh> ok thank you very much
[18:08] <DopeGhoti> shankhs: could you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[18:08] <derek_smart> z987k: im not sure
[18:08] <z987k> derek_smart, something broke, but as far as I can tell nothing was changed
[18:08] <chieh> so you can setup your own cloud in your own office?
[18:08] <derek_smart> z987k: wait im confused
[18:09] <Sensiva> Any news about how to fix resolution in Karmic?
[18:09] <MK13> Untouchab1e, have you tried to change to a different tty then "ps -x" look for the PID for X, then run "sudo kill <PID-HERE>"?
[18:09] <shankhs> DopeGhoti: http://paste.ubuntu.com/305252/
[18:09] <Appiah> I upgraded from Jaunty to Karmic now my Broadcom NetXtreme gigabit ethernet and Intel WiFi Link 5100 is not working anymore, any pointers?
[18:09] <ColtonLee> ow do i get my belkin n wireless adapter to work when windows when ndisgtk shows that the hardware is not present and i have tried rebooting
[18:09] <r3cord> does anyone know how i can recover correct owners/permissions in /usr and it's subfolders without re-installing) (for example sudo is not working)
[18:09] <Lapinux> ais523: i know the full release is a good idea over a beta, just didnt know if "upgrading" from one was a good idea
[18:09] <arun_palal> in epson site there is no scanner driver for ubuntu. Then how can i get it.?
[18:09] <Royall> soreau: anything I can do?
[18:09] <soreau> Royall: Your drivers are broken. Can you pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log file?
[18:10] <Untouchab1e> hmm.. now "sudo gdm stop" worked.. or it doesnt really work cuz all it does is log me out and throw me back to the login screen :/
[18:10] <erana> r3cord: try vi /etc/sudoers
[18:10] <DopeGhoti> shankhs: can you back that file up and run a command for me
[18:10] <Guest44897> how to install db-devel in ubuntu 9.10 ?
[18:10] <JoeSomebody> little busy in here :) I cant find 9.10 docs, do they exist? I would think https://help.ubuntu.com/
[18:11] <Royall> soreau: http://pastebin.com/d33a2c045
[18:11] <erana> r3cord: chmod -R r2cord:wheel /usr
[18:11] <r3cord> erana: sudo is not setuid anymore beause permissions in /usr are messed up
[18:11] <shankhs> DopeGhoti: sure
[18:11] <grawity> erana: uhh. chmod sets modes, not owner.
[18:11] <dawit> grawity & IdleOne: Now I get it!
[18:11] <Scunizi> arun_palal: check out ... http://support.epson.ru/upload/library_file/11/scanner_linux.pdf
[18:12] <erana> Guest44897: apt-cache search db-devel; if it exists apt-get install dbXXX-devel
[18:12] <derek_smart> Guest44897: ubuntu 9.10 karmic or koala?
[18:12] <DopeGhoti> shankhs: sudo sed -i 's/ubuntu.ipacct.com/us.archive.ubuntu.com/g' /etc/apt/sources.list      ← Run that *after* backing up the original file, then apt-get update and try the release upgrade again
[18:12] <Defcon1> has anyone else had success getting grub2 to recognize windows 7 partitions?
[18:12] <jimmy51_> can a ubuntu system installed in OEM mode be imaged and redepolyed on other machines (with different hardware) after running the "prepare for shipping" app?
[18:12] <soreau> Royall: Can you pastebin the output of 'ls -l /dev/dri/card0' and 'groups'?
[18:12] <arun_palal> thanks, let me try.
[18:12] <erana> r3cord: try running a shell from the CD and reinit the root passwd
[18:13] <Royall> soreau: first: ls: cannot access /dev/dri/card0: No such file or directory
[18:13] <codeswing> if you like to point it out .. tell me what are the top 5 best features of karmic
[18:13]  * Blues-Man good blues bye
[18:13] <ripps> Defcon1: first, try `sudo os-prober && sudo update-grub`
[18:13] <shankhs> DopeGhoti: what does the command do?
[18:13] <Guest44897> derek_smart, how to know karmic or koala ?
[18:13] <Royall> soreau: then: root adm dialout fax cdrom tape audio dip video plugdev scanner fuse lpadmin netdev admin sambashare usbfs
[18:13] <dawit> grawity & IdleOne: internet is sort of slooow here and the lines are freezing on my screen; but here's a question how can I install 1)a webcam [logitech] on Ubuntu 2) a ZTE wireless modem 3G?
[18:13] <skysong> Defcon1: http://erickoo.wordpress.com/2009/06/14/how-to-add-vista-partition-to-grub-2-ubuntu-9-10-karmic-koala/
[18:13] <derek_smart> which one should i get for laptops karmic or koala 9.10?
[18:13] <soreau> Royall: Well your DRM is messed up.. did you compile your own kernel or using a different one than the one ubuntu provides?
[18:13] <DopeGhoti> shankhs: that changes all of your apt repos to the one I'm using, which is offering me the opportunity to update to 9.10
[18:14] <DopeGhoti> s/this/that means 'change this to that'
[18:14] <Royall> soreau: I used the update manager to upgrade
[18:14] <shankhs> DopeGhoti: ok thanx
[18:14] <codeswing> if you like to point it out .. tell me what are the top 5 best features of karmic
[18:14] <soreau> Royall: Ok, hang on
[18:14] <gidna> Hi
[18:14] <derek_smart> codeswing: THIS IS NOT ubuntu general electric discussion this is ubuntu SUPORT
[18:14] <derek_smart> codeswing: TAKE your attitude ELSEWHERE
[18:14] <ColtonLee> can someone plz help with my wireless problem
[18:14] <daevski> ripps: I followed that in older os, and I think it might have worked. sudo grub actually loads the grub> bash-like command-line, just like on boot grub command-line.
[18:14] <codeswing> Defcon1: okay
[18:15] <ripps> daevski: good
[18:15] <derek_smart> codeswing: and are you using karmic or koala?
[18:15] <codeswing> derek_smart: should i use ext4 or ext3 ?
[18:15] <Untouchab1e> rofl
[18:15] <daevski> ripps: I'm going to reboot. I might stop back in and let you know :) otherwise I'm reinstalling Ubuntu :-p but thank you anyways!
[18:15] <esperegu_> after upgrading to karmic I don't see all the sound channels anymore in the mixer. And alsamixer gives this error:alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory .... Any suggetions???
[18:15] <codeswing> derek_smart: I am going to install it on my work machine
[18:15] <Untouchab1e> I cant shut down x-server no matter what I do..
[18:15] <Sensiva> !resolution
[18:15] <derek_smart> codeswing: ext4 is faster but ext3 might be slower in amd
[18:15] <gidna> I've installed ubuntu 9.10 and I receive Disk has many bad sectors and to replace it... with the former ubuntu I didn't reiceive anything like this
[18:15] <soreau> Royall: Can you pastebin the output of 'dmesg|grep drm'?
[18:15] <Defcon1> skysong I tried that and still cannot seem to get it to add windows 7, i copied and pasted those lines of code
[18:15] <dmsuperman> So I see that ctrl+alt+backspace doesn't restart X but there is no "dontzap"
[18:15] <dmsuperman> What's the new method to fix that?
[18:15] <erana> Untouchable: killall -9 Xorg/X
[18:15] <derek_smart> erana: NO
[18:16] <niadh> Is ubuntu recommended installing from scratch (as per this bug 453579) cos I am currently manipulating large video files and this bug would really be a pain, is there a fix, does it only occur under certain situations?
[18:16] <derek_smart> erana: ERANA NO
[18:16] <sharp1> How to know it is karamic or kaola ?
[18:16] <DopeGhoti> dmsuperman: gconf-editor
[18:16] <Defcon1> skysong the first line is supposed to be "#! /bin/sh -e" correct?
[18:16] <codeswing> also how is new GDM
[18:16] <dmsuperman> DopeGhoti: What's the key?
[18:16] <DopeGhoti> dmsuperman: one sec, I'll find it
[18:16] <derek_smart> sharp1: uname -a|grep
[18:16] <ColtonLee> can someone plz help with my wireless problem
[18:16] <dmsuperman> DopeGhoti: Much appreciated :)
[18:16] <Royall> soreau: I wish I could-- it's getting difficult to switch between windows with this lag and stuff.. one sec
[18:16] <grawity> Defcon1: I don't think -e is necessary.
[18:16] <h00k> dmsuperman: its in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Options -> Keyboard Layout
[18:16] <DopeGhoti> dmsuperman: I don't know why they killed C-A-Bksp either.
[18:17] <derek_smart> sharp1: is it which one is it
[18:17] <DopeGhoti> dmsuperman: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-enabledisable-ctrlaltbackspace-in-ubuntu-9-10-karmic.html
[18:17] <gidna> why Dosn't it work goos as the former?
[18:17] <MK13> does anyone here know how to convert the old menu.lst entry to one accepted by grub2?
[18:17] <FFEMTcJ> What is another key server assides from keyserver.ubuntu.com ?
[18:17] <[B]randon> What's the apt-get command to upgrade your distro?
[18:17] <grawity> FFEMTcJ: pool.sks-keyservers.net
[18:17] <[B]randon> Apt-get dist-upgrade?
[18:17] <dmsuperman> h00k, DopeGhoti: Thanks ^.^
[18:17] <DopeGhoti> dmsuperman: also, what h00k said :)
[18:17] <FFEMTcJ> grawity: thanks.. keyserver.u sucks
[18:17] <DopeGhoti> [B]randon: do-release-upgrade
[18:18] <Defcon1> ripps any other suggestions if that does not work?
[18:18] <sharp1> derek_smart, 2.6.31-14-generic #48-Ubuntu SMP
[18:18] <[B]randon> thank you DopeGhoti
[18:18] <FFEMTcJ> grawity: is there a list of keyservers somewhere?
[18:18] <derek_smart> sharp1: the 48 means its karmic, koala is faster
[18:18] <Untouchab1e> erana that doesnt work :S
[18:18] <derek_smart> sharp1: get koala
[18:18] <ColtonLee> can someone plz help with my wireless problem
[18:18] <DopeGhoti> [B]randon: that'll be €8 ;)
[18:18] <Royall> soreau:
[18:18] <Royall> [   25.184662] [drm] Initialized drm 1.1.0 20060810
[18:18] <Royall> [   25.203945] [drm] Initialized i915 1.6.0 20080730 on minor 0
[18:18] <freakabcd> hi all
[18:18] <ripps> Defcon1: than you might need to manually add an entry for it... let me do some google
[18:18] <h00k> !ask | ColtonLee
[18:18] <grawity> FFEMTcJ: http://sks-keyservers.net/ has a list of all keyservers linked to the pool. (Including the Ubuntu one.)
[18:18] <[B]randon> How about I get one of my girl-friends to blow you DopeGhoti
[18:18] <freakabcd> are the dvd isos released already?
[18:18] <orudie_> 1734 people in here, wow !!! the most i've seen so far , i wonder if it ever going to get to 2000
[18:18] <sharp1> derek_smart, how can I change it to koala ?
[18:18] <h00k> !ohmy | [B]randon
[18:18] <grawity> FFEMTcJ: but just use pool.* and it'll always work. (That's the entire point of pool, afterall.)
[18:18] <FFEMTcJ> thanks
[18:18] <derek_smart> sharp1: im not sure im new
[18:18] <DopeGhoti> [B]randon: I think my GF would be upset with that idea.  Also, please keep this channel family-friendly.
[18:18] <FFEMTcJ> awesome..
[18:19] <ripps> Defcon1: http://erickoo.wordpress.com/2009/06/14/how-to-add-vista-partition-to-grub-2-ubuntu-9-10-karmic-koala/
[18:19] <dawit> grawity & IdleOne: thanx but cnxn is really bad; will try again later! g'd nite!
[18:19] <derek_smart> sharp1: a guy told me in ubuntu.com you can download it
[18:19] <z987k> after upgrading to 9.10 I get this error:"Unable to mount location - Failed to retrieve share list from server" when trying to browse the network.
[18:19] <[B]randon> I'm sorry :(
[18:19] <beckerpd> having a problem loading karmic, running 680i motherboard, stalls at white ubuntu symbol any ideas?
[18:19] <erana> sharp1: new CD 10
[18:19] <DopeGhoti> [B]randon: no harm, no foul :)
[18:19] <[B]randon> :D
[18:19] <[B]randon> DopeGhoti, mind helping a noob out some more? :D
[18:19] <ColtonLee> my belkin n wireless adapter doesnt show up in karmic and i have both ndiswrappers and ndisgtk and are working fine but still no wireless after i installed my drivers
[18:19] <DopeGhoti> [B]randon: that's why we're here :) how can we help?
[18:19] <daevski> ripps: That did it. It worked perfect. sudo grub ftw :) -- now I just need to install future versions with no bootlader, right? that would bybass this silly hacking?
[18:19] <sharp1> derek_smart, I am actually trying to install db-devel ! so does it really make difference if it is karmic or kaola ?
[18:19] <[B]randon> I have a logitech USB headset, but for some reason it won't install on ubuntu.
[18:20] <[B]randon> I'm very new to the linux distros, just came over from winbloz.
[18:20] <rafiq> a black shadow is blocking my screen leaving me to forcequit...anyone know how to fix it
[18:20] <rafiq> ?
[18:20] <[B]randon> I have no clue what I'm doing what so ever, any ideas?
[18:20] <DopeGhoti> [B]randon: what happens when you try?
[18:20] <xanwito> hello i a, using my old kernel, how can i fox overheating with the new one? (recently updated to karmic)
[18:20] <z987k> what are the default firewalls installed with 9.10?
[18:20] <sharp1> derek_smart, if it does not make differnce guide me to install db-devel .. !!
[18:20] <soreau> Royall: Well I'm not too sure. Maybe ask in #intel-gfx
[18:20] <DopeGhoti> z987k: if I recall, I think it's ufw
[18:20] <[B]randon> Nothin at all.
[18:20] <derek_smart> sharp1: i dont know what db devel is IM NOT YOUR PERSONAL SUPPORT
[18:20] <DopeGhoti> [B]randon: what model is it?
[18:20] <[B]randon> There is no CD to install, it just automatically installs.
[18:20] <Defcon1> ripps tried that before, but i think i will try again
[18:20] <[B]randon> My headset?
[18:20] <derek_smart> sharp1: i just heard that karmic is slower than koala
[18:20] <erana> xanwito: try the bios
[18:20] <z987k> DopeGhoti, how do you edit things in it, I've never used it?
[18:21] <derek_smart> sharp1: and koala has more useflags rendering
[18:21] <DopeGhoti> derek_smart: karmic *is* koala
[18:21] <derek_smart> sharp1: 90% more rendering koala useflags
[18:21] <eXeC001er> Hello!
[18:21] <vge> karmic lizards o.0
[18:21] <alfatau> hello, i would want to install ubuntu from a USB key, but following instructions i should run an application called usb-creator.exe which should be inside the cd i burned from ISO image. well, that file doesn't exist inside the ISO image so how can i do? i don't have a cdrom drive to install ubuntu from cd. thank you for your attention
[18:21] <ripps> Defcon1: how do you have your system setup, is you windows on the same drive as ubuntu, or is it on a seperate one?
[18:21] <erana> derek_smart: db devel is probably BSD db 4.10 and so on
[18:21] <sharp1> how to install db-devel in ubuntu 9.10 ?
[18:21] <derek_smart> DopeGhoti: thats a common misconception i was told in bsd mailing list that koala is the testing version
[18:21] <DopeGhoti> z987k: I don't know, sorry.. I use shoreline firewall :)
[18:21] <DopeGhoti> !ufw | z987k
[18:21] <roy> Hi! my ubuntu 9.04 is currently using ~20GB in 4 partitions. I want to make a fresh install of the Karmic in that space, in new ext4 partitions. How should I allocate the spaces and what partitions would be idal ... with 2GB RAM?
[18:21] <joaopinto> sharp1, what are you trying to achieve ?
[18:22] <derek_smart> erana: koala is released 6 months like karmic
[18:22] <xanwito> hello i a, using my old kernel, how can i fox overheating with the new one? (recently updated to karmic)
[18:22] <erana> ripps: try net booting if it doens not work, ask again
[18:22] <xanwito> erana: try wath with the bios?
[18:22] <ebtek220> is computer janitor safe to use in 9.10. i've heard that you should just not use it cause it might delete needed data
[18:22] <Berzerker-> roy, you can have ubuntu automatically manage it for you, if you don't need to keep all 4 partitions
[18:22] <eXeC001er> I need to change field "SECTION" for many packages. How can i do it?
[18:22] <ripps> erana: huh?
[18:22] <rafiq> a black shadow is blocking my screen leaving me to forcequit...anyone know how to fix it
[18:22] <ColtonLee> my belkin n wireless adapter doesnt show up in karmic and i have both ndiswrappers and ndisgtk and are working fine but still no wireless after i installed my drivers
[18:22] <rafiq>  ?
[18:22] <Defcon1> ripps 2 Hard drives  HD1: Partition for ubuntu / Partition for windows  HD2: Home Partition for Ubuntu / Home partition for Windows
[18:22] <derek_smart> joaopinto: he is trying to port a 9plan userspace along with brazil the window manager to linux i told him thats impossible
[18:22] <joaopinto> derek_smart, koala was the test version, is the current version now !
[18:22] <jctsunami> Is anyone familiar with the error "Xlib:  extension "Generic Event Extension" missing on display ":1000.0".", I seem to be getting this when I run the eclipse program from an NX client.
[18:22] <derek_smart> joaopinto: thats a common misconception, the hurd has been in testing before koala
[18:22]  * tjuboy a
[18:22] <ironfoot495> erana: ok I downloaded it but how do I get it to come up?
[18:22] <derek_smart> joaopinto: it is a micro kernel rendering
[18:22] <erana> xanwito: try setting the overclocking keys in the bios, for example 400FSB Mhz multiplied by the procerssor core's speed
[18:23] <joaopinto> derek_smart, uh , what are you talking about ? Karmic Koala is Ubuntu 9.10, the current stable version
[18:23] <bsanders> Anyone using VMWare Workstation with Karmic?  I upgraded and now when I start VMware it wants to compile new kernel modules and fails
[18:23] <zouhair> hi, info cat only gives manpage of cat, is there any package that gives the real info file,
[18:23] <h00k> xangua: be very careful setting overclocking
[18:23] <ripps> Defcon1: yeah, what I gave you won't work, because Windows won't boot from a slave drive. You need to trick it into thinking it's on a prime
[18:23] <rafiq> a black shadow is blocking my screen leaving me to forcequit...anyone know how to fix it
[18:23] <rafiq>  ?
[18:23] <derek_smart> joaopinto: look, go to the koala ppa
[18:23] <derek_smart> joaopinto: launchpad.net
[18:23] <xangua> i donn't like ovberclocking :S
[18:23] <igama> bsanders, run VMware has root
[18:23] <joaopinto> derek_smart, that is the context for the current channel
[18:23] <sharp1> joaopinto, trying to install iproute2 .. got error as " arpd.c:19:20: error: db_185.h: No such file or directory"
[18:23]  * xangua wanwito is xangua
[18:23] <roy> Berzerker: I want to delete all the current linux partitions. Would "automatic" be better or a manual one?
[18:23] <h00k> ermac0: why are you telling xangua to overclock?
[18:23] <erana> ironfoot495: I forgot what you asked ?
[18:23] <Berzerker-> derek_smart, Karmic is the current stable version, it was released yesterday.
[18:24] <derek_smart> joaopinto: the context is linux support do not tell me arguements to koala
[18:24] <Defcon1> ripps any suggestions?
[18:24] <IdleOne> derek_smart: the context here is Ubuntu support
[18:24] <h00k> derek_smart: please see the /topic
[18:24] <DopeGhoti> derek_smart: again, Karmic and Koala are _exactly_ the same release.
[18:24] <derek_smart> Berzerker-: he was trying to enable plan 9 support in linux userspace im trying to render koala
[18:24] <ironfoot495> erana: how to get desktop on the new ubuntu 9.10?
[18:24] <IdleOne> #linux for linux support
[18:24] <rafiq> a black shadow is blocking my screen leaving me to forcequit...anyone know how to fix it
[18:24] <rafiq>  ?
[18:24] <DopeGhoti> derek_smart: 9.10 is "Karmic Koala"
[18:24] <Scunizi> bsanders: you need to install the linux headers for your current kernel for vmware to complete..
[18:24] <joaopinto> derek_smart, not realy, the context is UBUNTU support, not linux in general, for that please join #linux
[18:24] <ripps> Defcon1: just a sec, I'm rewriting a script for you.
[18:24] <h00k> derek_smart: stop trolling.
[18:24] <ironfoot495> server
[18:24] <funkiwan> i just upgraded to karmic, and am finding alt+tab switching quite slow. any thoughts on what might be going on, or where to look?
[18:24] <Scunizi> bsanders: sudo apt-get install build-essential may take care of it easily
[18:24] <derek_smart> joaopinto: i was here before trying that
[18:25] <erana> irondfoot495: If you install the x-window-system with apt-get you can add gnome or KDE
[18:25] <derek_smart> joaopinto: grep /etc/rc.d/ ? post the output
[18:25] <subbu> ironfoot495: what do you mean by 'get desktop on the new ubuntu?"
[18:25] <ironfoot495> erana: I'm having a heck of a time figuring that out!!!
[18:25] <erana> subbu: he runs server
[18:25] <subbu> oh ok got it :)
[18:25] <bsanders> thanks, all, I'll get those packages and try again
[18:25] <Laserbeak>  i was an admin, but someone told me it isn't safe to be an admin  and using the PC regularly. so i took myself off the admin group and now sudo doesn't work"daddy is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported."
[18:25] <subbu> i was confused with his question
[18:25] <rafiq> a black shadow is blocking my screen leaving me to forcequit...anyone know how to fix it
[18:25] <rafiq>  ?
[18:25] <h00k> derek_smart: this isn't linux general support, this is the official support channel for Ubuntu Karmic Koala
[18:25] <erana> ironfoot495: try apt-get install gnome-libs or gnome
[18:25] <IdleOne> Laserbeak: put yourself back in the admin group
[18:26] <Berzerker-> Laserbeak, if you're the main user of the computer, being an admin is fine.
[18:26] <xangua> how can i fix overheating¿ updated from jaunty to karmic
[18:26] <Laserbeak> IdleOne: that's safe?
[18:26] <ironfoot495> erana: ok
[18:26] <Laserbeak> and running irc?
[18:26] <DopeGhoti> shankhs: any luck?
[18:26] <derek_smart> h00k: im aware of the title im not sure why you imply im confused with linux main channel
[18:26] <subbu> exit
[18:26] <subbu> q
[18:26] <joaopinto> Laserbeak, being an admin group member is fine, being root is not fine
[18:26] <pvandewyngaerde> if i want to run all my wine programs as a different user, and to disable virusses, is it safe to the setuid  option on the /usr/bin/wine file ?
[18:26] <SnakDoc> subbu: /quit
[18:26] <Laserbeak> oh ok
[18:26] <h00k> derek_smart: You had said before ythat you thoughht it was linux in general
[18:26] <roy>  Berzerker: What would be the ideal partitioning for 20GB space and 2GB RAM?
[18:26] <IdleOne> Laserbeak: is you want sudo to work you must be in the admin group. what is not safe is to run as root all the time
[18:26] <ColtonLee> my belkin n wireless adapter doesnt show up in karmic and i have both ndiswrappers and ndisgtk and are working fine but still no wireless after i installed my drivers
[18:26] <shankhs> DopeGhoti: trying its downloading a lot of files
[18:26] <Berzerker-> Laserbeak, unless you stupidly accept a DCC transfer not knowing with the file is, and put in your password when it asks to run, you'll have no problems
[18:26] <ripps> Defcon1: okay, try this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/305267/
[18:26] <DopeGhoti> shankhs: that's promising!
[18:26] <Berzerker-> roy, do you need the other partitions?
[18:26] <rafiq> a black shadow is blocking my screen leaving me to forcequit...anyone know how to fix it
[18:26] <derek_smart> h00k: ... please quote me on this
[18:26] <rafiq>  ?
[18:26] <Laserbeak> hehe ok thx guys
[18:27] <DopeGhoti> shankhs: sounds like your old repos wren't updated after all
[18:27] <roy>  Berzerker: Yes, I have XP and 7 installed :)
[18:27] <xangua> how can i fix overheating¿ updated from nautny to karmic
[18:27] <erana> pvandewyngaerde: yes, but try chown user:wheel
[18:27] <erana> then g+x
[18:27] <grawity> erana: Isn't it :root?
[18:27] <ripps> Defcon1: that should replace 11_windows in grub.d
[18:27] <Berzerker-> roy, I wouldn't have 3 OSs installed on a 20GB hard drive.
[18:27] <xangua> how can i fix overheating¿ updated from jaunty to karmic
[18:27] <nhuisman> hey i'm having problems with 9.10 and the ati drivers for dual head
[18:27] <derek_smart> xangua: nautny is NOT an ubuntu version, you are either trolling or the package has been compromised
[18:27] <joaopinto> xangua, I don't know how, but repeating here will not help for sure
[18:28] <pvandewyngaerde> erana:  who is wheel ?
[18:28] <Defcon1> ripps if the windows partition is partition 3 do i need to change "drivemap -s (hd1,3) $root" ?
[18:28] <shankhs> DopeGhoti: hey man this is what I got http://paste.ubuntu.com/305268/
[18:28] <derek_smart> the offical versions are as follow Jaunty and Karmic and Koala
[18:28] <xangua> derek_smart: i am not trolling, i make a mistake
[18:28] <roy>  Berzerker: 20GB is where currently Jaunty is, I have 750GB in this PC
[18:28] <nhuisman> anyone here using 9.10 and ati and dual head?
[18:28] <erana> pandewyngaerde:
[18:28] <shankhs> DopeGhoti: I think I am missing something i donno what!
[18:28] <erana> pvandewyngaerde: wheel is the root group sort off
[18:28] <bsanders> ok, I checked and I already have build-essential and the linux headers for my kernel installed.  I've tried running it as root as well, and it fails at the same place
[18:28] <DopeGhoti> derek_smart: Karmic Koala is *one* version.  Karmic ≡ Koala.
[18:28] <Scunizi> !anyone | nhuisman
[18:28] <IdleOne> derek_smart: please stop giving wrong answers. if you don't know, stay silent
[18:28] <derek_smart> xangua: that mistake could've easily costed someone else's installation because eveyrthing one says is a point for reference
[18:28] <xangua> and joaopintoi repeated because i misspelling jaunty
[18:28] <derek_smart> IdleOne: prove me wrong idle, prove me wrong i have sources
[18:28] <xangua> ¿¿¿
[18:28] <pvandewyngaerde> erana:  i want to give it less permissions, not more
[18:28] <icehawk78> I've just transplanted a hard drive with 9.04 installed from one computer to another with completely different hardware. Is there anything I need to do in order to have Ubuntu check for new hardware and install the proper drivers, or will it do that all on its own? (ie new graphics, audio, network, etc)
[18:29] <derek_smart> IdleOne: ubuntu.com
[18:29] <xangua> mispelled*
[18:29] <ColtonLee> b elkin n wireless adapter doesnt show up in karmic and i have both ndiswrappers and ndisgtk and are working fine but still no wireless after i installed my drivers
[18:29] <ripps> Defcon1: yeah, what your trying to do is remap the windows boot partition as 0,1
[18:29] <archy008> after upgrading to 9.10 keep getting this error about failing to load the FastUserSwitchApplet.. did anyone else have the same problem?
[18:29] <IdleOne> derek_smart: prove to me your sources are correct
[18:29] <Sashi1> is it possible to use "Desktop Wall" from compiz or something like that without running compiz?
[18:29] <IdleOne> !troll > derek_smart
[18:29] <ripps> Defcon1: actually, wait
[18:29] <erana> pvandewyngaerde : try chmod u-x filename
[18:29] <nhuisman> the problem is, I do aticonfig --initial=dual-head with a base install after ive gone ahead and installed the driver.  The ati control panel doesn't show an option for two  monitors
[18:29] <freeman> icehawk78 check system options
[18:29] <DopeGhoti> Sashi1: if you mean multiple desktops, yes.
[18:29] <gOLDfeesh> Stupid question, but am I going to lose anything doing this update?
[18:29] <derek_smart> !troll > IdleOne
[18:29] <krankzinnig> I just installed 9.10 and when I boot I get the GRUB screen. What do I do??
[18:29] <joaopinto> gOLDfeesh, no
[18:29] <gOLDfeesh> Probably should have asked before doing it.
[18:29] <derek_smart> how does that feel
[18:29] <Scunizi> icehawk78: should do it on its own.. however if the previous computer was ati based and the new one has an nvidia card.. you might have some changes to make manually
[18:29] <derek_smart> jesus
[18:29] <gOLDfeesh> joaopinto, alright thanks.
[18:29] <Berzerker-> roy, ah, I see.
[18:29] <gOLDfeesh> !troll
[18:29] <xangua> how can i fix overheating¿ updated from nautny to karmic and using intel video card
[18:29] <n8tuser> gOLDfeesh-> do a fresh install instead of doing upgrade
[18:30] <derek_smart> im trying to help people and this big jerk keeps attacking me
[18:30] <erana> krankzinnig: hit return :-)
[18:30] <blinkiz> Installed a clean version of Karmic today. Audio does not work out of the box. Headphone does not work at all. Where do I find information how to solve this?
[18:30] <Sashi1> DopeGhoti: i don't mean multiple desktops but mean the method of switching to desktops when the mouse goes to the corner of one desktop
[18:30] <roy>  Berzerker: So...
[18:30] <blinkiz> Has intel hd audio
[18:30] <Berzerker-> roy, if you're not using it as a main OS, I'd give it close to 40-50GB with about 512-1GB of swap space.
[18:30] <joaopinto> !ops | derek_smart playing the troll
[18:30] <pvandewyngaerde> erana:   i dont want a  virus through wine that deletes all my file to delete my linux profile  files
[18:30] <IdleOne> derek_smart: I have read all the factoids the bot knows. please stop acting like a jackass and maybe you can be useful to the people who need help
[18:30] <n8tuser> blinkiz-> google?
[18:30] <DopeGhoti> Sashi1: I recall having that working before, yes, but I don't remember exactly how to set it up
[18:30] <nhuisman> hey i downloaded the 9.10 cd like 3 days ago when it was rc, is the final release now any different?
[18:30] <gOLDfeesh> !manners | derek_smart
[18:30] <Tesssa> makes me feel like your a idiot derek_smart
[18:30] <blinkiz> n8tuser, yeah, give me the keywords then
[18:30] <derek_smart> !whats going on
[18:30] <ripps> I think I wrote it wrong, try this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/305272/
[18:30] <subbu> pvandewyngaerde:you can contain wine
[18:30] <derek_smart> !what the modules
[18:30] <erana> xangua: overheating is fixed by lowering the ,ulitplicator in the bios
[18:30] <krankzinnig> If I hit return, it just makes a new sh:grub> line
[18:31] <n8tuser> blinkiz-> audio ubuntu karmic ?
[18:31] <ColtonLee> my belkin n wireless adapter doesnt show up in karmic and i have both ndiswrappers and ndisgtk and are working fine but still no wireless after i installed my drivers
[18:31] <roy>  Berzerker: I only have this 20GB to spare. All the other drives are almost full :(
[18:31] <icehawk78> Scunizi: I think it might be for that. Anywhere I should look on getting that straightened out?
[18:31] <funkiwan> any ideas on what would cause alt+tab app switching to take over 1 second. i'm not running compiz.
[18:31] <derek_smart> ok we need to come to terms in this because the hurd wont be built in a day with this
[18:31] <xangua> how can i fix overheating¿ updated from jaunt to karmic and using intel video card and is shuting down with no sence
[18:31] <krankzinnig> When I choose Ubuntu from the loader, I get the grub terminal screen
[18:31] <derek_smart> koala and karmic are the same or not
[18:31] <erana> krankzinnig: try boot
[18:31] <Sashi1> DopeGhoti: ow :( do you remember what application you used for it?
[18:31] <krankzinnig> I did, it says no kernel
[18:31] <xangua> erana: you told me something abput overclocking to be able to do that, am i wrong ?
[18:31] <Berzerker-> roy, 20GB is fine, I'm barely using 10. 768MB of swap space should do.
[18:31] <Amaranth> derek_smart: Hurd is something completely different and offtopic for this channel.
[18:31] <DopeGhoti> Sashi1: IIRC, it was just part of GNOME.
[18:31] <n8tuser> ColtonLee-> does it show in dmesg? what does lshw -C network tells you? can you post in pastebin the results?
[18:31] <shankhs> derek_smart: ubuntu 9.10 is codenamed karmic koala
[18:31] <derek_smart> is koala and karmic the same version
[18:32] <shankhs> derek_smart: yes
[18:32] <rosebj> yes
[18:32] <erana> xangua: over or lesser clocking that is
[18:32] <Berzerker-> derek_smart, ...seriously?
[18:32] <Berzerker-> derek_smart, ubuntu.com
[18:32] <subbu> hi derek_smart: yes it is the same
[18:32] <DopeGhoti> shankhs: okay, I'm officially baffled, then :(
[18:32] <pvandewyngaerde> subbu: how would you  contain wine  ?
[18:32] <DopeGhoti> derek_smart: Yes.  Karmic Koala is the successor to Jaunty Jackalope.
[18:32] <derek_smart> well then WHY THE hecks did he tell me it was two different one for laptop one for desktop?
[18:32] <roy>  Berzerker:  Do you recommend creating a /boot? What are the "must-have" ones other that swap and root?
[18:32] <jctsunami> Is anyone familiar with the error "Xlib:  extension "Generic Event Extension" missing on display ":1000.0".", I seem to be getting this when I run the eclipse program from an NX client.
[18:32] <shankhs> DopeGhoti: and I am feeling like a fool it was never a problem since 7.04 and this time its frustrating :(
[18:33] <Scunizi> icehawk78: boot first on the new machine and see what happens.. if it drops you to a terminal then .. sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade adn see if it pulls in the needed packages.. editing xorg.conf can be an excersise in futility sometimes.
[18:33] <Berzerker-> derek_smart, whoever did that does not know what they're talking about
[18:33] <DopeGhoti> derek_smart: without knowing who 'he' is what what precisely yo uwere told, it's hard to say.
[18:33] <rosebj> derek_smart,  there is a netbook version and a regular desktop version
[18:33] <trism> derek_smart: you might be thinking about the desktop version and UNR
[18:33] <Defcon1> ripps so the grub2 boots from the /home hard drive?
[18:33] <tck9> i have 2gb ram installed. bios shows 2gb, lshw & dmidecode show 2gb, however when i check with free -m or top it shows only 1gb.
[18:33] <ColtonLee> n8tuser: not in dmesg
[18:33] <tck9> any idea why linux isn't recognizing the full 2gb?
[18:33] <krankzinnig> Can anyone help me? I installed 9.10 clean and all I get is the GRUB command line. "boot" doesn't work, says no loaded kernel
[18:33] <DopeGhoti> shankhs: no, you're not a fool; it's your computer that's being foolish ;)
[18:33] <derek_smart> and the grep is true however? moreso than the hurd ive been trying to render?
[18:33] <subbu> pvadewyngaerde: go to this link, scroll down to wine section and follow the simple instructions http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=518012
[18:33] <Berzerker-> derek_smart, regardless of the version, they're all karmic koala. There is desktop version, Ubuntu netbook remix, and 64-bit and 32-bit versions, but they're all karmic koala
[18:33] <DopeGhoti> shankhs: you could try downloading and burning a Karmic CD and using that to upgrade
[18:33] <Berzerker-> roy, just mount it as /, everything will be under /
[18:34] <trijntje> krankzinnig: try to install again? or would that be too troublesome?
[18:34] <Untouchab1e> I dont want anything to happen when I close the laptop lid. Since I have connected the laptop to my TV, I would like to be able to close the laptop lid without the picture on the TV going blank..
[18:34] <Tesssa> ah well even i a puter illiterate know the difference between a laptop and a desk top
[18:34] <Amaranth> derek_smart: Stop talking about hurd.
[18:34] <n8tuser> ColtonLee->  what does lshw -C network tells you? can you post in pastebin the results?
[18:34] <ripps> Defcon1: well, it's configs are, but I probably loaded it's mbr into your 1st harddrive. Not too much of an issue, unless you remove the second second harddrive disapeers
[18:34] <krankzinnig> I guess I am going to have to while I am gone, should I report this?
[18:34] <Untouchab1e> but the Power Management Preferences only lets me select Blank Screen, Suspent, Hibernate or Shutdown
[18:34] <icehawk78> Scunizi: It loads and appears that everything is fine, but the previous machine was an integrated nvidia, and the new one has a dedicated ATI. If the display still comes on, does that mean that drivers were updated and found correctly?
[18:34] <IdleOne> Amaranth: he is just trolling in circles.
[18:34] <derek_smart> it'd be a whole lot easier if ubuntu choose representative names for their releases -- names that could be reflective of the revisions, say, i dont know... something simplistic like 9.10
[18:34] <Untouchab1e> I dont have the option to do nothing :/
[18:34] <Berzerker-> derek_smart, karmic koala is merely a codename
[18:34] <joshyfluff> my sound suddenly stopped working on 9.10, any help?
[18:35] <Untouchab1e> Anyone?
[18:35] <DopeGhoti> derek_smart: "Karmic Koala" is the *codename* for Ubuntu 9.10. Is that what you mean?
[18:35] <th1> derek_smart is a  troll
[18:35] <Berzerker-> he also left.
[18:35] <Defcon1> ripps ok, so is the code you gave me right? or were you going to change something?
[18:35] <shankhs> DopeGhoti: ya thinking of that but gksu "sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade" isn't working either
[18:35] <Scunizi> icehawk78: looks to be exactly what happened.. you might also look in System>Admin>Hardware drivers and see if anything is listed there.
[18:35] <Tesssa> a marroon one as well
[18:35] <masule> Can I modify the directory name of ~/Ubuntu\ One and still use the Ubuntu One service?
[18:35] <Amaranth> Untouchab1e: blank screen should just turn the screen off
[18:35] <th1> Berzerker, I think he "was left" :)
[18:35] <trijntje> krankzinnig, if you can. But you should try to find out more about the error before filing a bug i think
[18:35] <Tesssa> he left
[18:35] <roy> Berzerker: / and /swap?
[18:35] <Untouchab1e> Amaranth, yes, but it also kills the picture on the TV.. all I get is a black screen after closing the laptop lid
[18:35] <Scunizi> icehawk78: just try doing that on a windows system sometime.. ouch.. how it will complain
[18:36] <joshyfluff> so could anyone help with my sound issue?
[18:36] <ColtonLee> n8tuser: Hardware Lister (lshw) - B.02.14
[18:36] <ColtonLee> usage: lshw [-format] [-options ...]
[18:36] <ColtonLee>        lshw -version
[18:36] <ColtonLee> 	-version        print program version (B.02.14)
[18:36] <ColtonLee> format can be
[18:36] <FloodBot3> ColtonLee: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:36] <ColtonLee> 	-html           output hardware tree as HTML
[18:36] <ripps> Defcon1: I think I just defined the root and remap incorrectly, If your windows is the 3rd partition on your second slave drive, it should work
[18:36] <Amaranth> Untouchab1e: try disabling the screensaver
[18:36] <Scunizi> Untouchab1e: did you figure out how to stop gdm?
[18:36] <erana> jsohyfluff: do ask.
[18:36] <erana> joshyfluff: do ask
[18:36] <icehawk78> Scunizi: Hah, well, it's a media center/web server, and Windows ain't touching anything that's visible to the rest of the world if I have anything to say about it. Plus, Windows would just assume you stole a copy and lock itself down, if you tried doing what I did, lol.
[18:36] <ripps> Defcon1: make sure you run `sudo update-grub`
[18:37] <Defcon1> ripps ok, well I will try messing with it again after class. thanks for the help!
[18:37] <Scunizi> icehawk78: yep! :)
[18:37] <derek_smart> why kick me
[18:37] <Defcon1> ripps i will def check that
[18:37] <n8tuser> ColtonLee->  what does lshw -C network tells you? can you post in pastebin the results?
[18:37] <joshyfluff> erana: this is my 2nd day of having 9.10 installed and already the sound has stopped working. i think it is to do with login as the sounds are skippy and only the drums play, not the login sound;.
[18:37] <icehawk78> Scunizi: Either way, mostly just wanted to make sure there wasn't anything obvious I was missing that needed to be done. Next step is upgrading to 9.10
[18:37] <derek_smart> wait who kicked me look im trying to install this thing a ma gig
[18:38] <skysong> will 5.1 sound work out of the box with 9.10?
[18:38] <trijntje> derek_smart, what are you trying to do?
[18:38] <skysong> anyone?
[18:38] <derek_smart> where is ubuntu-general whats the channel for general ubuntu discus
[18:38] <joaopinto> !ot | derek_smart
[18:38] <Untouchab1e> Amaranth, doesnt help
[18:38] <ColtonLee> oh well
[18:38] <yancho> any one can please help me get firefox to see my plugins please? i am on firefox 3.5.4 and the guys from #firefox told me to speak with you guys due to problem with path
[18:38] <derek_smart> im trying to install this and everyone is kicking me or one guy was
[18:38] <n8tuser> ColtonLee->  what does lshw -C network tells you? can you post in pastebin the results?
[18:38] <ellar> using the new karmic: where to tell xorg to use the fglrx driver, theres no more an /etc/X11/xorg.con!
[18:38] <IdleOne> !appeal | derek_smart
[18:38] <Scunizi> icehawk78: backup backup backup... if you have a seperate /home that will make it easier.. personally I haven't had much success using the "upgrade" path.. I typically just install fresh using my old  /home ..
[18:38] <joaopinto> skysong, sound is not my expertise, but I guess it depends on the audio card model
[18:39] <derek_smart> im using a netbook and a desktop i just want to make sure i have the correct cd for the laptop
[18:39] <CPrgmSwR2> No sound on kubuntu 9.10
[18:39] <n8tuser> ellar-> no /etc/X11/xorg.conf exist?  am justcurious
[18:39] <roy> Berzerker: u gone?
[18:39] <Amaranth> ellar: System->Administration->Hardware Drivers does it for you
[18:39] <joshyfluff> no sound on my ubuntu 9.10 either
[18:39] <boojit> so i think i am dumb and just need someone to confirm. I downloaded the 9.10 desktop iso and i figured i could also use it to upgrade an existing 9.04 installation -- but it looks like you can only do this with the alternate iso, is this correct?
[18:39] <CPrgmSwR2> is anyone else having this issue
[18:39] <igama> derek_smart, the DesktopCD can be used on the laptop, its just a name
[18:39] <skysong> joaopinto: thanks.. i had quite a bit of trouble trying, in vain, to have the 5.1 working in other distros, thats why im asking.
[18:39] <CPrgmSwR2> n8tuser: 9.10 removed xorg.conf
[18:39] <joaopinto> boojit, yes, that is correct
[18:39] <trijntje> derek_smart, if you have a low end laptop (ie. netbook) you should use Ubuntu Netbook Remix
[18:39] <IdleOne> boojit: correct
[18:39] <ellar> Amaranth, i tried, but there's nothing in the list!
[18:39] <Amaranth> boojit: Right, the live cd can only do new installs
[18:39] <roy> Damn... :(
[18:39] <derek_smart> igama: then why did someone told me the unr
[18:39] <CPrgmSwR2> joshyfluff: what sound card
[18:39] <n8tuser> CPrgmSwR2-> replaced with what?
[18:39] <icehawk78> Scunizi: Yep. I was actually moving from a laptop to a desktop, so the "backup" is already made when I imaged the drive to get it onto the other hard drive. I mostly just don't want to have to reconfigure apache and ruby again.
[18:39] <skysong> BUT it did owrk fine with 9.04
[18:39] <joaopinto> skysong, you could try with the livecd first
[18:39] <shankhs> why isnt gksu "sh /cdrom0/cdromupgrade" this working
[18:40] <skysong> work*
[18:40] <ellar> Amaranth, should i reinstall the restricted-driver manager?
[18:40] <Amaranth> ellar: What video card?
[18:40] <DopeGhoti> shankhs: aha, I just saw that to do an upgrade from CD, you need the 'alternate install CD'; is that the one you have?
[18:40] <boojit> ah awesome. I figured i was dumb. So that's what you get for downloading first and asking questions later
[18:40] <Scunizi> icehawk78: don't blame you a bit
[18:40] <CPrgmSwR2> n8tuser: I don't quite recall but it was being discussed in #kubuntu
[18:40] <igama> derek_smart, the UNR is for NETBOOKS, low end laptops, those small ones like Asus EEE.
[18:40] <joaopinto> skysong, so it whould work fine, unless there is a regression :\
[18:40] <ellar> Amaranth, ATI Technologies Inc M22 [Mobility Radeon X300]
[18:40] <derek_smart> igama: i have a msi wind netbook not a asus
[18:40] <joshyfluff> CPrgmSwR2, i have no sound any more, my sound card i dunno but i will find out in a sec, it should work as i have had ubuntu installed on this d610 since 8.04
[18:40] <boojit> thanks joaopinto, IdleOne, Amaranth
[18:40] <Amaranth> ellar: fglrx only supports RadeonHD cards, you want to use the open source driver (which was setup automatically)
[18:40] <zakwilson> Following auto-upgrade, I have no video acceleration. Should I try it with no xorg.conf before doing further troubleshooting?
[18:40] <roy> Somebody please tell me what would be the ideal partitioning for Karmic on 20GB space and 2GB RAM...
[18:40] <skysong> joaopinto: yeah;) doesn't think there.. ive tried 9.04 years after the other ubuntu i used.. way beyond my imagination
[18:40] <quentusrex> Anyone know what happened to the game freecell????
[18:40] <Amaranth> zakwilson: If you don't use fglrx or nvidia then yes, try without xorg.conf
[18:40] <n8tuser> CPrgmSwR2-> generically is it going away from using X11 ?
[18:41] <IdleOne> boojit: you can pass the live cd on to a friend
[18:41] <skysong> so ill give it a go:)
[18:41] <trijntje> derek_smart, http://www.canonical.com/projects/ubuntu/unr
[18:41] <igama> ellar, your graphic card is not supported by ATI anymore, there are no more drivers to install. You use the ones Ubuntu already is using.
[18:41] <Scunizi> roy: 6 gigs for root "/", 1 gig swap .. the rest for /home
[18:41] <zakwilson> roy: there is no ideal.
[18:41] <n8tuser> roy trial and error to suits your needs
[18:41] <CPrgmSwR2> n8tuser: I am not sure
[18:41] <raven_> hi - which system (like clusterknoppix) would you take for a load-balacing-cluster of a few machines?
[18:41] <igama> derek_smart, so, use the UNR if you have a netbook
[18:41] <Berzerker-> roy, sorry, 19.3GB for / and 700MB for swap is ideal
[18:41] <Berzerker-> roy, everything will be under /
[18:41] <derek_smart> igama: is it compatible with msi and asus?
[18:41] <ellar> igama, yes under 9.04 i had 3d accel and now i don't have so i want to find the right...
[18:41] <igama> derek_smart, yes
[18:41] <woble> Karmic: display dim doesnt work anyone knows a fix?
[18:42] <n8tuser> Berzerker-> not ideal, have /home in a separate partition
[18:42] <DopeGhoti> ellar: System -> Hardware Drivers
[18:42] <Amaranth> woble: intel graphics?
[18:42] <xlq> Is there an alternative to Alt+F2 to view the boot messages?
[18:42] <woble> Yes
[18:42] <igama> ellar, you need to make a special config. there are no more driveres from ATI for you.
[18:42] <Berzerker-> n8tuser, unnecessary
[18:42] <xlq> Since Alt+F2 no longer works.
[18:42] <woble> Amaranth yes
[18:42] <Amaranth> woble: is this a macbook? :)
[18:42] <ellar> DopeGhoti, is empty and shows nothing
[18:42] <derek_smart> igama: is it compatible with Intel brand graphics?
[18:42] <woble> No, HP Compaq
[18:42] <n8tuser> xlq try ctrl+alt+f1 to f4 to see which console it uses
[18:42] <Amaranth> woble: ah, well it may be the same 'fix'
[18:42] <igama> ellar, look in the forum or google for "Ubuntu Karmic x300"
[18:42] <Tesssa> someone shoot him
[18:42] <Halitech> roy, I've got a 20gig / (over kill) and I've installed a lot of apps and I'm still only using 4.5gig
[18:42] <woble> Probably since its a realyl general PC
[18:43] <igama> derek_smart, the UNR is Ubuntu Karmic but with a special interface for netbooks.
[18:43] <roy> Berzerker: If I allocate around 4GB for swap, would that be more stable/fast?
[18:43] <k0rupted> anyone know of a good wifi strength monitor? ... not just pretty bars but the actual signal strength?
[18:43] <ripps> ellar: have tried installing an updated mesa (3d stuff) from the ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates ppa?
[18:43] <innomen> I have a strange problem, i reinstalled my machine a lost an app i downloaded and i cant recall the name of it, it was a video audio capture utility, can yuo guys just start naming some off? i'll know it when i see it, it has a white little webcam icon if that helps
[18:43] <xlq> n8tuser: ok, right. Well, I'll probably disable it, since it just shows a useless white Ubuntu logo. But I can't understand this new-fangled GRUB configuration :\
[18:43] <raven_> hi - which system (like clusterknoppix) would you take for a load-balacing-cluster of a few machines?
[18:43] <k0rupted> signal strength*
[18:43] <n8tuser> Berzerker-> not true, if you ever have to recover, having the /home in a separate partition is nice
[18:43] <CPrgmSwR2> Oh My gosh
[18:43] <Amaranth> woble: Try adding "nomodeset" to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT in /etc/default/grub and rebooting
[18:43] <joshyfluff> i'm gonna try analog stereo duplex
[18:43] <derek_smart> igama: i have a msi netbook with Intel brand graphics is it compatible with the graphics sub-system?
[18:43] <CPrgmSwR2> This room is freaken busy
[18:43] <DopeGhoti> innomen: cheese is the only one I can think of
[18:43] <Amaranth> woble: oh, wait, before you reboot you have to run `sudo update-grub`
[18:43] <igama> derek_smart, yes
[18:43] <Berzerker-> n8tuser, I didn't say it was bad, I said it was unnecessary
[18:43] <grawity> last CPrgmSwR2
[18:43] <grawity> errr.
[18:43] <n8tuser> xlq-> i dont know about the newest 9.10 am assuming you have a choice
[18:44] <derek_smart> igama: is it compatible with intel HD audio Realtek codec?
[18:44] <innomen> DopeGhoti, it was one not in the repos
[18:44] <woble> Wil give it a shot Amaranth tnx :)
[18:44] <Berzerker-> roy, so you can do 5GB for /, 14 for /home and 1 for swap
[18:44] <igama> derek_smart, try it.
[18:44] <innomen> does anyone know where i could find an aexhastive list of webcam capture software?
[18:44] <CPrgmSwR2> grawity: what?
[18:44] <Tesssa> only one way to find out derek_smart is to instakk it
[18:44] <Amaranth> xlq: remove "splash" from GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT in /etc/default/grub and run `sudo update-grub`
[18:44] <hellyes> can I load my nVidia GeForce drivers on ubuntu?
[18:44] <grawity> CPrgmSwR2: Nothing.
[18:44] <Halitech> innomen, motion is good
[18:44] <Berzerker-> hellyes, hell yes.
[18:44] <derek_smart> igama: I dont want to try it because first i have to know the compatibles
[18:44] <igama> derek_smart, like i said, Ubuntu UNR = Ubuntu Karmic Desktop with diferente interface.
[18:44] <DopeGhoti> innomen: it's in 'universe'; have you that repo enabled?
[18:44] <Amaranth> hellyes: System->Administration->Hardware Drivers
[18:44] <derek_smart> igama: else i get problems
[18:44] <igama> derek_smart, it is compatible
[18:44] <Amaranth> hellyes: That'll do it for you
[18:44] <dragon> There was an interactive `screen` program on Jaunty desktop. What package provides that?
[18:44] <MasterofPuppets> Hey guys, I'm setting up a dualboot for Vista and Ubuntu. Ubuntu's already installed, so I'm partitioning a drive for Vista; it has to be Fat32 right?
[18:44] <innomen> DopeGhoti, no no, the one i want is not in the repo
[18:44] <th1> derek_smart, try a live cd and see if it works or not
[18:44] <hellyes> thanx!
[18:44] <IdleOne> igama: save yourself the aggravation, he is trolling
[18:45] <xlq> Amaranth: hmm, odd, it's lilo-ish now? :P
[18:45] <DopeGhoti> dragon: byobu
[18:45] <Scunizi> hellyes: update your system and look in System>Admin>hardware drivers and see if there is an Nvidia driver waiting to be activated.
[18:45] <Tesssa> i have loaded my nvidia drivers on xubuntu
[18:45] <gerzel> Hey I got a dual boot machine and want to use a font that's available on the windows side but not on linux side.  Anyone know where I should put this font in Ubuntu and does anyone know off the top of their head where windows stores its fonts?
[18:45] <ellar> i will look thanks fo the hints
[18:45] <ais523> MasterofPuppets: no, NTFS
[18:45] <innomen> Halitech, will it capture audoo and video at the same time?
[18:45] <sammy> is it possible to use the alternate-iso cd to upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10 *without* using the update-manager gui?
[18:45] <Amaranth> xlq: something like that
[18:45] <K4nkr0> สวัสดีครับ
[18:45] <derek_smart> th1: i have to know first which one to try
[18:45] <MasterofPuppets> ais523: Alright, thank you very much!
[18:45] <roy> Berzerker: Would 4GB swap be of any good? And the rest / ?
[18:45] <innomen> Halitech, and is it gui
[18:45] <Tesssa> using the now and they work fine
[18:45] <derek_smart> th1: UNR or Karmic Koala
[18:45] <joaopinto> MasterofPuppets, no, linux handles ntfs just fine
[18:45] <Halitech> innomen, not sure on audio, I think its just for video and no, runs from the cli
[18:45] <Amaranth> sammy: You could add the cd to /etc/apt/sources.list manually but what is wrong with the update-manager UI?
[18:45] <DopeGhoti> roy: 4GB swap sounds a touch excessive, but it won't do any harm
[18:45] <cxo> Whats the ubuntu equivalent of, rpm -qil [installed_package_name], it basically lists all the files in a package thats installed on the system
[18:45] <libtech> i upgraded to 9.10 from 9.04 netbook remix, maximus is not maximizing the windows properly (i can still see the title bar at the top of each window), also, icons are really jumbled in the netbook launcher
[18:45] <raven_> which distri/system easily builds up a performance-cluster?
[18:45] <Scunizi> roy: 4 gigs of swap is overkill.. unless you're doing lots of video production
[18:45] <innomen> hehe then its not good
[18:45] <joaopinto> th1, igama , please ignore derek_smart  he is trolling
[18:45] <th1> derek_smart, it doesn't matter much as one can be converted to the other after the event
[18:45] <dragon> DopeGhoti: thanks.
[18:45] <dragon> byobu is installed on this karmic server, but the interactive thing wouldn't show up. ideas?
[18:46] <DopeGhoti> cxo: apt-cache -L pagkagename
[18:46] <woble> amaranth I dont have an /etc/default/grub ^^
[18:46] <sammy> Amaranth: I'm trying to upgrade an ubuntu-server install which doesn't have X.
[18:46] <igama> joaopinto, yep just noticed that...
[18:46] <zakwilson> So things are improved with no xorg.conf (it doesn't take seconds for text I type to appear) but still no direct rendering.
[18:46] <Berzerker-> roy, swap space more than the amount of RAM you have is not useful
[18:46] <zakwilson> http://pastebin.com/m5b18b8c0 <-- Xorg.0.log
[18:46] <joshyfluff> ok, my sound problem is fixed. CPrgmSwR2, are you still having problems?
[18:46] <MasterofPuppets> joaopinto: Alright, cool. Do you know how much Vista needs, ideally? I'm only thinking of giving it about 30 gigs...
[18:46] <innomen> jesus i couldent have picked a worse time, release yesterday
[18:46] <Amaranth> sammy: Oh, try do-release-upgrade
[18:46] <DopeGhoti> dragon: rename or remove your ~/.screenrc and rerun byobu
[18:46] <CPrgmSwR2> joshyfluff: yep
[18:46] <CPrgmSwR2> joshyfluff: yep
[18:46] <derek_smart> th1: im going to try and install a Lightweight system
[18:46] <woble> MasterofPuppets 30 is enough for Vista
[18:46] <subbu> pvandewyngaerde:did it help?
[18:46] <innomen> thanks for the help guys, good luck :)
[18:46] <Amaranth> sammy: Dunno if it has a system for adding the CD though
[18:46] <joaopinto> MasterofPuppets, no idea, that would be a question for #windows ;)
[18:46] <ripps> roy: you want your swap to be greater than or equal to your amount of ram
[18:46] <joshyfluff> CPrgmSwR2, PM me
[18:46] <th1> derek_smart, then install Windows 3.1
[18:46] <woble> MasterofPuppets I run vista on 25GB
[18:46] <K4nkr0> Hello
[18:46] <IdleOne> joaopinto: it is a shame that someone who has enough time to troll does not spend it helping others.
[18:46] <MasterofPuppets> woble: How much does the OS itself take up?
[18:47] <xlq> Hmm. Ubuntu One hasn't worked once yet for me.
[18:47] <sammy> Amaranth: I'm not sure either :) thanks for that suggestion, though. that is the way to do it from a server install, but I was trying to download a torrent and keep the load off the poor, overloaded mirrors :)
[18:47] <ripps> ripps: rule of thumb, use 1.5-2x the amount of you ram
[18:47] <trijntje> derek_smart, UNR stands for Ubuntu Netbook Remix, its for netbooks. The lates version of UNR is Karmic Koala
[18:47] <derek_smart> th1: im trying to install an Ubuntu Karmic Koala Lightweight Systems
[18:47] <woble> MasterofPuppets roughly 10GB
[18:47] <roy> I see. So 2GB swap would be most stable/fast?
[18:47] <CPrgmSwR2> joshyfluff: I used the beta disc to upgrade, so I have been with this problem for a while
[18:47] <Scunizi> xlq: try it with a browser and see if you have success
[18:47] <woble> MasterofPuppets taking the error logs and other shit in account 15 GB
[18:47] <Berzerker-> roy, you don't even need that much, 1GB will be fine.
[18:47] <juststopedforcou> anyone run 9.10 remix on Acer AO751h?
[18:47] <igama> PPL pls remember this when helping someone with an ATI : ATI does not support Graphic card < H2000, there are no more proprietary drivers, So restricted drivers has no drivers for then. THe only drivers are the opensource that Ubuntu is already using.
[18:47] <CPrgmSwR2> Joshyfluff Hi
[18:47] <Shikaku> Quick question, I just booted up after a bad boot that froze linux to a black screen, where can I get error logs?
[18:47] <ripps> !who | roy
[18:48] <th1> Shikaku, /var/log/syslog
[18:48] <derek_smart> roy: swap should be twice as ram because when you hibernate it makes an image of ram in the swap partition
[18:48] <igama> Shikaku, /var/log/
[18:48] <Halitech> igama, that started way back when 9.04 was released, you would think people would know by now
[18:48] <roy> I play lots of HD stuff, and do multitasking, like downloading torrents, video chatting etc
[18:48] <MasterofPuppets> woble: So if I want to fit my music and shiz on there as well, 40 gigs should be fine?
[18:48] <th1> Shikaku, but if it crashed hard it may not have saved the end of the logs
[18:48] <matu> hi
[18:48] <cxo> I want to play alienarena, but i'm on 64bit ubuntu. And it complains about missing 32bit libs
[18:48] <wildc4rd> evenin' all
[18:48] <th1> MasterofPuppets, it very muhc depends how much music and shiz you have ;)
[18:48] <woble> MasterofPuppets reserve 15GB for the system and add whatever you need
[18:48] <derek_smart> Halitech: there are a lot of versions
[18:48] <Berzerker-> roy, swap space only helps if you're performing heavy operations
[18:49] <Berzerker-> roy, downloading a torrent doesn't do swap space useage
[18:49] <Halitech> cxo, install is32-libs (I think its called)
[18:49] <woble> MasterofPuppets just take into account you cant access linux drives from vista, but you can access vista from linux
[18:49] <igama> cxo get the alienarena for 64bits, or did you install with apt-get ?
[18:49] <MasterofPuppets> woble: I'll just partition it to 50 for safety's sake
[18:49] <derek_smart> Berzerker-: that is not true, swap is also needed for hibernation
[18:49] <Berzerker-> roy, neither does multitasking anything
[18:49] <dragon> DopeGhoti: there is no ~/.screenrc
[18:49] <ripps> roy: I have 1gig of ram, and I don't even use my swap, I turn it off most of the time. What you described don't use up too much memory.
[18:49] <derek_smart> Berzerker-: stop confusing people
[18:49] <sammy> Amaranth: thanks again.
[18:49] <Halitech> derek_smart, alot of versions of what?
[18:49] <nicklas_> hello, there seems to be something wrong with ubuntu-restricted-extras / flash ... i can watch flash and all, but when i want to jump in the clip or change volume or something, i cant click in the flash window?
[18:49] <cxo> igama, i didnt realise it was in the repos, i'll try
[18:49] <roy> Berzerker: HD videos + video chat?
[18:49] <Berzerker-> derek_smart, ...I didn't say it wasn't used for anything.
[18:49] <MasterofPuppets> woble: that's fine, I just need it to run certain programs.
[18:49] <derek_smart> Halitech: of Ubuntu
[18:49] <hyakuhei> Eeep, I updated a few days ago (stable) just rebooted and X is a little broken, doesn't detect the screen size correctly
[18:49] <th1> derek_smart, stop telling other people what stuff when you know next to nothing yourself and troll constantly
[18:49] <dragon> DopeGhoti: isn't byobu supposed to provide one?
[18:49] <Shikaku> i'm not sure how bad it crashed th1.  it happens randomly at bootup, where it just goes into a black screen as if it's on a screensaver mode with the monitor off and no buttons work
[18:49] <Halitech> derek_smart, I know
[18:49] <derek_smart> Berzerker-: well he will use it if he hibernates
[18:49] <cxo> igama, its not in the repos
[18:49] <Berzerker-> derek_smart, I didn't say that he didn't.
[18:49] <xlq> Crumbs, looks like it might be working
[18:49] <cantigas> For 9.10 live usb install, I want to set aufs and root fs as noatime, any ideas/hints/ptrs?
[18:49] <derek_smart> th1: swap is used for hibernation
[18:49] <ripps> roy: in fact swap just slows things down, it's meant to be used in case you run out of ram
[18:49] <Berzerker-> derek_smart, try reading, thanks.
[18:49] <nicklas_> im on 9.10 btw
[18:50] <raven_> which distri/system easily builds up a performance-cluster?
[18:50] <igama> cxo, apt-cache search alien arena
[18:50] <igama> alien-arena - Standalone 3D first person online deathmatch shooter
[18:50] <Berzerker-> roy, nope, video chatting is just internet.
[18:50] <derek_smart> Berzerker-: swap is used for hibernation it must be as equal or more than ram
[18:50] <Shikaku> karmic btw, and it started on karmic, never happened before in jaunty
[18:50] <woble> amaranth I dont have an /etc/default/grub but I also dont have grub 2.0 (came from Jaunty) could that be the problem?
[18:50] <Berzerker-> derek_smart, that's not true.
[18:50] <th1> derek_smart, I know but "stop confusing people" is a bit rich coming from a troll
[18:50] <derek_smart> Berzerker-: it is
[18:50] <yancho> any one can please help me get firefox to see my plugins please? i am on firefox 3.5.4 and the guys from #firefox told me to speak with you guys due to problem with path
[18:50] <Berzerker-> derek_smart, only if you're using all of your RAM.
[18:50] <roy> ripps: So when does large swap actually help?
[18:50] <cxo> igama, how do i know which version that is, before installing it?
[18:50] <joaopinto> ripps, swap does not slows things down unless it's nedded, which means you don't have enough RAM :)
[18:50] <zakwilson> I have another more minor problem as well: synclient no longer accepts a RightEdge value less than 1751. It now claims: X Error of failed request:  BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation)
[18:50] <xlq> yancho: which plugins?
[18:50] <Amaranth> woble: ah, in that case you have to edit /boot/grub.cfg or whatever
[18:50] <pjman> I'm trying to add a PPA along with the PPA's key from a terminal. My works network blocks the traffic to do this so I’m trying to route my traffic over a SSH/SOCKS proxy. Earlier today grawity pointed me towards tsocks. That got me further as I’m able to retrieve the proxy nat’ed IP from whatismyip.com in the terminal window. The PPA / key add is still failing with “keyserver timed out”. Any ideas?
[18:50] <Berzerker-> roy, lots of video converstions
[18:50] <archy008> can somebody tell me please how to fix the bug with the xubuntu splashscreen and gdm login screen that I get on startup after updating to Ubuntu 9.10
[18:50] <th1> Berzerker, he is in fact right that swap partition is used for hibernate
[18:50] <Amaranth> woble: don't remember the file name exactly
[18:50] <Dovydas> 9.10 Remix is running verrrryyyy slow on Acer 751h. Any ideas?
[18:50] <igama> cxo look in synaptic
[18:50] <woble> k
[18:51] <Berzerker-> th1, I didn't say it wasn't.
[18:51] <derek_smart> Berzerker-: are you suggesting that he should keep tabs on his ram usage before hibernating?
[18:51] <rogerrei1> Hey guys!, I am having a problem with my 9.10: when i enter the youtube , i click the player but nothing happens, i have the flash player plug in to firefox.
[18:51] <woble> but is Grub 2.0 worth upgrading to?
[18:51] <derek_smart> Berzerker-: because thats not good advice
[18:51] <Berzerker-> derek_smart, you're never going to use 100% ram
[18:51] <K4nkr0> how to install amsn
[18:51] <Berzerker-> derek_smart, again, stop trolling.
[18:51] <derek_smart> Berzerker-: ...thats an assumption
[18:51] <joaopinto> pjman, I believe there is a problem with ubuntu's keyserver
[18:51] <yancho> xlq,  no plugins found at all .. they are all in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins and in /usr/lib/firefox* [i have some versions] all are soft linking to that folder
[18:51] <th1> K4nkr0, sudo aptitude amsn
[18:51] <derek_smart> Berzerker-: using 100% ram is perfectly viable situation...
[18:51] <roy> Berzerker: I don't do conversion in linux, but what if I want to record a live chat?
[18:51] <robertj> my dog chewed my bluetooth USB dongle into itty-bitty-bits, anyone want to put in their 2c as to a good brand that will play nice in both Karmic and Windows?
[18:51] <Scunizi> rogerrei1: you might have the plugin but do you have flash installed?  if not go to adobe and get the latest .deb
[18:51] <xlq> Wheey! Ubuntu One worked!
[18:51] <ripps> roy: if your doing things that take up alot of memory, like video/sound/graphic editing. If you just playing multimedia, it doesn't tend to take up as much memory as editing them
[18:51] <Berzerker-> derek_smart, no...it's not. if you use 100% RAM, you need more RAM.
[18:51] <th1> robertj, MSI
[18:51] <dragon> `screen` is different from `byobu` now. Anyone aware of this change? Any documentation?
[18:52] <derek_smart> Berzerker-: fact is that swap must be as large as ram to guarantee proper hibernation
[18:52] <Berzerker-> derek_smart, I have 2GB of RAM and 500MB of swap, and my hibernate works fine all the time.
[18:52] <derek_smart> Berzerker-: that doesnt keep him from using it to that extent
[18:52] <igama> derek_smart, bull shit :)
[18:52] <joaopinto> Berzerker, actually linux tries to use 100% of your RAM, if is not needed for apps, it's used for caching :)
[18:52] <Berzerker-> derek_smart, again, stop trolling thanks.
[18:52] <robertj> th1, know if it is generally available retail anywhere in the US?
[18:52] <DopeGhoti> dragon: how can I help you with byobu?
[18:52] <wsch> if i want to install ubuntu 9.10 but i want to have grub ONLY on my partition, and start grub with BCD, how would i do it?
[18:52] <Berzerker-> joaopinto, sure, but caching isn't used in hibernation
[18:52] <wsch> i tried just selecting my partition at the last window you get
[18:52] <derek_smart> Berzerker-: suggesting that he should buy more ram instead of increasing swap is kinda not productive
[18:52] <wsch> when installing
[18:52] <th1> robertj, no I'm in Europe but a google products search should find one
[18:52] <roy> ripps: I do do photo editing... on multi-layered RAW files
[18:52] <wsch> but that doesnt weem to work
[18:52] <pjman> joaopinto: thanks! Is there a way to query the keyserver from a browser to see if it's up or does it not accept browser traffic?
[18:52] <IdleOne> Berzerker: He will disagree with you until he is wrong then agree with you until you are wrong and never stop until you stop feeding him
[18:52] <grawity> pjman: Use pool.sks-keyservers.net
[18:52] <Berzerker-> derek_smart, again, stop trolling thanks.
[18:52] <Shikaku> wsch, do you have multiple hard drives?
[18:52] <joaopinto> pjman, no idea, just saw another people complaining about the keyserver
[18:52] <ripps> dragon: screen can be called the vanilla of byoubu. byoubo is just a complex screen setup
[18:52] <Berzerker-> IdleOne, I'll just keep telling him that
[18:53] <derek_smart> Berzerker-: read the hibernation documentation you are clearly the one trolling because swap and hibernation works this way
[18:53] <igama> derek_smart, again you are wrong. I even disable swap on some computers. more ram is the best solution
[18:53] <Berzerker-> derek_smart, again, stop trolling thanks.
[18:53] <Tesssa> why don't you just ban him
[18:53] <dupondje> can somebody try printing from flash ? does it show printers ?
[18:53] <derek_smart> igama: we are talking about hibernation
[18:53] <pjman> grawity: great - I'll try that. BTW - tsocks is a neat tool. Thanks again!
[18:53] <ripps> roy: yes, so having some swap on hand is probably a good idea
[18:53] <Berzerker-> derek_smart, you're pulling things out of your ass, derek_smart, again, stop trolling thanks.
[18:53] <joaopinto> pjman, http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/ , but hum, it looks up to me
[18:53] <wsch> Shikaku, nope just one, this is a laptop
[18:53] <wsch> Shikaku, AHCI is turned on should that mather
[18:53] <derek_smart> Berzerker-: it is a fact that the compressed hibernation image resides on swap...
[18:54] <derek_smart> Berzerker-: unless you use tuxonice but that requires patching the kernel
[18:54] <n8tuser> derek_smart-> look into tmpfs.. this may give you a clue as an alternative to swapping into a hd
[18:54] <Tesssa> leave it out derek smart
[18:54] <roy> ripps: So you think 2GB swap wouldn't be overkill?
[18:54] <Tesssa> please
[18:54] <derek_smart> Berzerker-: n8tuser hibernation does not work that way
[18:54] <ctmjr> !stop | derek_smart
[18:54] <ripps> roy: how much ram do you have?
[18:54] <IndyGunFreak> roy, not really...  i believe the general rule of thumb for swap, is 1.5-2x your physical ram
[18:54] <roy> ripps: 2GB
[18:54] <igama> IndyGunFreak, that is a old rule.
[18:54] <dragon> DopeGhoti: I was trying to invoke `byobu` by running `screen`, and was completely unaware of http://dustinkirkland.wordpress.com/2009/06/02/byobu-2-8-change-in-launch-behavior/ . I think I'm good now; wouldn't mind recommendations regarding a usable setup for a non-techie friend.
[18:54] <Shikaku> wsch, can't really help you then... sorry
[18:54] <Berzerker-> IndyGunFreak, swap more than the amount of RAM you have is not necessary.
[18:54] <derek_smart> n8tuser: hibernation image must reside in hdd not it ram... otherwise it would be suspend to ram
[18:54] <joaopinto> igama, which stills makes sense :)
[18:55] <wsch> Shikaku, no problem thanx fro trying
[18:55] <ripps> roy: I'd probably up it to 3gb, especially if you ever want to use the hibernation function
[18:55] <IndyGunFreak> Berzerker, fine with me, thats why i said i believe...
[18:55] <joaopinto> anyway, swap sizing is a debaable question, let's not go over it here
[18:55] <Berzerker-> roy, anything more than 1GB is not necessary.
[18:55] <kwagga1> Good Evening Ladies and Gentlemen all the way from a stormy Pretoria
[18:55] <roy> IndyGunFreak: I thought that too, but folks here seem to be telling me quite the opposite. I'm really confused
[18:55] <derek_smart> joaopinto: a sizable swap is necesary for proper hibernation.... it is a relevant suggestion
[18:55] <IndyGunFreak> i figured w/ machines coming out w/ tons of ram, 1.5-2x was probably  overkill for most
[18:55] <Berzerker-> roy, 1.5x-2.0x again, is an old rule
[18:55] <wsch> rohow much ram have you got?
[18:55] <IndyGunFreak> roy, just make swap however big you want, it doesn't matter
[18:55] <Berzerker-> roy, 1GB will be fine, really.
[18:55] <derek_smart> joaopinto: and Berzerker- is telling people to undersize swap....
[18:55] <woble> Lol, cant install grub 2 because it depends on grub-pc
[18:55] <theadmin> Can anyone tell me what is "Checking whether build environment is sane... yes". I laugh every time i see it.
[18:55] <Berzerker-> derek_smart, again, stop trolling thanks.
[18:55] <woble> cant install grub-pc because it depends on grub2
[18:55] <Berzerker-> afk
[18:55] <wsch> roy, how many RAM you have?
[18:56] <igama> IndyGunFreak, yep, swap = ram is usually the normal rule these days
[18:56] <derek_smart> Berzerker-: would you stop spamming
[18:56] <IndyGunFreak> igama, good to know.
[18:56] <ripps> roy: do you plan on using hibernate, if you do, your swap needs to the bigger than your ram, otherwise, 1gig might suffice
[18:56] <DopeGhoti> dragon: I just have an "alias screen=byobu" in my .profile.  Also, wow, this channel scrolls fast :)
[18:56] <roy> wsch: 2GB
[18:56] <ripps> roy: *don't
[18:56] <joaopinto> derek_smart, swapping is not just about hibernation, there are mutiple factors for swap sizing, again, it's debatablle and this is not the right channel for a debate
[18:56] <gOLDfeesh> I'm not siding with, but I'm rather confused as to why derek_smart is getting in trouble. He's simply talking and giving alternatives.
[18:56] <preecher> why did he put memory in his ass
[18:56] <wsch> roy, then i would use 3GB SWAP, personally
[18:56] <petsounds> how can i install medibuntu. i already add the sources. thanks
[18:56] <derek_smart> joaopinto: i realize that swap isnt just about hibernation, but it must be big enough for it to allow hibernation... he is suggesting the opposite
[18:56] <IndyGunFreak> roy, truthfully, i agree w/ wsch
[18:56] <wsch> roy, i would recommend at least 2GB
[18:56] <theadmin> petsounds: medibuntu provides many packages, which one do you want?
[18:57] <dragon> DopeGhoti: yep it's fast
[18:57] <gOLDfeesh> !medibuntu
[18:57] <Tesssa> why don't a op ban him
[18:57] <DopeGhoti> derek_smart: I have a system with 2GB of RAM and 512MB of swap. And it can hibernate. So you are demonstrably wrong here.
[18:57] <derek_smart> joaopinto: this is the support channel. as such, lets avoid breaking peoples hibernate functions
[18:57] <G_A_C> DopeGhoti: maybe because you're not actually using more than 512Mb
[18:57] <tooth> okay so, on koala. I attempted to move the window with alt+mouseclick. it seems I hit the windows key instead, and it zooooomed way way in instead
[18:57] <IndyGunFreak> roy, are you severely low on disks space?
[18:57] <tooth> how do you.... unzoom?
[18:57] <roy> Well, I think 2GB is the average of all you contradicting geeks.
[18:57] <derek_smart> DopeGhoti: /etc/sysctl has values for image compression...
[18:57] <kwagga1> gee whiz... the channel is motoring!
[18:57] <adac> After upgrading to 9.10 my X server won't start on boot anymore. I can start X with startx though. Any ideas what's wrong?
[18:57] <derek_smart> DopeGhoti: they can be compressed under ram, but its not guaranteed
[18:58] <wsch> roy, 2GB would be fine, but since 1GB is not much these days...
[18:58] <DopeGhoti> G_A_C: the point being that "swap size must be ≥ RAM size" is incorrect :)
[18:58] <derek_smart> DopeGhoti: were you using all of your ram at the time you hibernated?
[18:58] <derek_smart> DopeGhoti: most likely not
[18:58] <ripps> roy: swap is complicated, and different amounts are need for different scenarios.
[18:58] <gOLDfeesh> !swap
[18:58] <Bearcat> hey folks, using ubuntu netbook remix 9.10. I can't find the system..preferences item (i can't even find prefernces) to turn off the netbook laucher and get me to a standard desktop like in the last version. How do i do that?
[18:58] <DopeGhoti> derek_smart: the point being that "swap size must be ≥ RAM size" is incorrect :)
[18:58] <roy> IndyGunFreak: 20GB to spare. 730GB too important
[18:58] <petsounds> theadmin : i want codecs for 3gp video, if im not mistaken it's .amr. i search on synaptic then i install it. but still i dont get the audio.
[18:58] <shankhs> Will this downlaod give me an alternate CD for ubuntu http://www.ubuntu.com/GetUbuntu/download?
[18:58] <nick125> Hey..I'm having a bit of a problem. I'm trying to upgrade to 9.10 on my Eee, but there isn't enough disk space. Any ideas or should I just reinstall?
[18:58] <KnickLighter> I just tried to upgrade my ubuntu server and this is what I get:
[18:58] <KnickLighter> http://pastebin.com/m298e5028
[18:58] <wildc4rd> in the grub bootloader menu.lst, do I just change the position of OS's to determine which is the default? (ie, first booted)
[18:58] <G_A_C> DopeGhoti: not necessarily, you might get away with it 9 times out of 10, but it's that 10th one, where you're doing a LOT of work and thus using a LOT of RAM that's gonna get you
[18:58] <derek_smart> DopeGhoti: i was making that suggestion as a safe starting point, your usage pattern wasnt exploiting the safe net to its fullest
[18:58] <theadmin> petsounds: Install... uhm, restricted-codecs
[18:58] <derek_smart> DopeGhoti: if you had been using your total ram
[18:58] <TNA5000> does anyone know how i can install tor on Ubuntu Karmic?
[18:59] <ripps> roy: ignore everybody here and just read this and make your own decision: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq
[18:59] <th1> nick125, how short of space are you? starting with "sudo aptitude clean" may give you some extra space
[18:59] <raven_> which distri/system easily builds up a performance-cluster?
[18:59] <derek_smart> DopeGhoti: hibernation wouldnt have been a possibility
[18:59] <Bearcat> nick125: i would just reinstall. I just did that. Back up first of course
[18:59] <derek_smart> DopeGhoti: this is well documented in the kernel source code comments
[18:59] <DopeGhoti> G_A_C: derek_smart: If I'm using all of my RAM, I'm probably not at a point where I'm thinking about hibernating my cimpoter.  *shrug*
[18:59] <nick125> th1: About 500MB short. I already ran aptitude clean and I only got about 250MB.
[18:59] <derek_smart> DopeGhoti: how about you give them a thorough read and comprehension session
[18:59] <nick125> I knew I shouldn't have gone for the 4GB SSD!
[18:59] <Idhan> I have problem with adobe-flashplugin , not sound with firefox.. any idea? ubuntu9.10
[18:59] <hellyes> can I load Photoshop onto ubuntu?
[18:59] <roy> ripps: Ok, thanks.
[18:59] <th1> nick125, if you are looking to tidy up the disk I can warmly recommend kdirstat
[18:59] <luca> !it
[18:59] <wsch> DopeGhoti, thats not the point
[18:59] <petsounds> theadmin : if u mean ubuntu restrcited extras then i have installing it
[18:59] <woble> hellyes , CS2 works in wine
[18:59] <innomen> What can i use to capture audio and video that has a gui?
[19:00] <myNickName> hi, does the desktop release of ubuntu 9.10 allow to use fde?
[19:00] <theadmin> hellyes: Use Wine
[19:00] <wildc4rd> hellyes, tried Gimp?
[19:00] <derek_smart> DopeGhoti: that is irrelevant. your ram usage pattern shouldnt be altered because of hibernation
[19:00] <zakwilson> It seems my direct rendering problem was the result of nvidia-glx-96 being installed and attempting to enable an nvidia driver along with the ATI driver.
[19:00] <Scunizi> What's the advantage of byobu over screen?
[19:00] <G_A_C> DopeGhoti: OTOH it's exactly where I might want to hibernate. Right in the middle of something, if I need to step away for a break or other reason, or I need to sleep and carry on in the morning, that's exactly when I would want to hibernate
[19:00] <Shikaku> sudo apt-get install non-free-codecs
[19:00] <th1> nick125, especially if yuo have lots of stuff in your homedir but don't know where the big stuff is
[19:00] <ctmjr> derek_smart let it go
[19:00] <wsch> i hate it when people are wrong and start conpleining that someone is trolling
[19:00] <theadmin> petsounds: No, restricted-codecs from medibuntu
[19:00] <yancho> xlq,  any ideas please?
[19:00] <trism> Idhan: did you install the adobe deb manually or did you install flashplugin-installer from the repos?
[19:00] <innomen> !capture
[19:00] <wsch> BAH
[19:00] <derek_smart> DopeGhoti: and making suggestions on that principle alone is ignorant
[19:00] <roygbiv> on 9.04 how can i upgrade firefox to 3.5? i don't know which package to get
[19:00] <theadmin> Damn, it's so noisy here.
[19:00] <DopeGhoti> wsch: All I was saying is that the assertion that you will not be able to hibernate if you have less swap than RAM is not completely accurate.
[19:00] <VirusTB> Rawr!
[19:00] <Idhan> trism: repos
[19:00] <nick125> th1: I only have about 50MB of stuff in /home on there
[19:00] <wsch> is you don't know what you are talking about then for the love of god DONT help
[19:00] <derek_smart> ctmjr: you do realize that bad advice like this has consequences
[19:00] <G_A_C> roygbiv: firefox-3.5 from universe
[19:00] <linved> hey i need some help, to get WPA work in 9.10, last time i got my wificard to work whit WPA was whit ubuntu 8.X. (and works great in windows)
[19:00] <petsounds> theadmin : ok, gimme the cmd line, please
[19:00] <Idhan> trism: should I do it manually?
[19:00] <hellyes> woble: what is gimp? is it native to ubuntu?
[19:00] <derek_smart> ctmjr: on people that dont know better
[19:00] <TNA5000> theadmin: WHAT?
[19:00] <icehawk78> Will Ubuntu send a kill signal to an app that may be trying to eat up all of the computer's memory? Like, say, a ruby script that's filling up a hash variable almost indefinitely?
[19:00] <adac> TNA5000, Is there no TOR package in the repository?
[19:00] <th1> nick125, maybe you can expand your partition?
[19:00] <zakwilson> The problem now is that that package also seems to be the source for libGLcore.so.1, the lack of which is a bit of a problem if I want to use 3D pretty much anything.
[19:00] <derek_smart> ctmjr: namely just about everyone thats here
[19:00] <roygbiv> G_A_C ty
[19:00] <trism> Idhan: nope, that should work
[19:00] <TNA5000> adac: no there is not
[19:00] <woble> hellyes , gimp = linux photoshop
[19:00] <grawity> adac: Tor is not in repos anymore. (Security reasons.)
[19:01] <DopeGhoti> icehawk78: using ulimit can prevent that sort of thing from being a problem.
[19:01] <wsch> woble, untrue
[19:01] <woble> hellyes , but its opensource.. and better :)
[19:01] <innomen> !webcam
[19:01] <wsch> woble, gimp does not only run on linux
[19:01] <adac> grawity, TNA5000 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TOR
[19:01] <wsch> woble, gimp is just a free photoshop alternative
[19:01] <nick125> th1: Nope. It's already at the full 4GB.
[19:01] <hanasaki> how do I turn on xmdcp in koala?
[19:01] <Shikaku> gimp is open source and runs on windows too
[19:01] <woble> wsch , i know but this is easier to explain
[19:01] <grawity> adac: Which is Tor's repo, not Ubuntu's.
[19:01] <adac> grawity, which security reasons?
[19:01] <wsch> woble, its still incorrect
[19:01] <th1> nick125, ok it's probably going to be hard to cut enough out ;)
[19:01] <Idhan> trism: which package should I install (from the repos)  the nonfree , installer, there is a few options
[19:01] <icehawk78> DopeGhoti: Prevent it from being a problem, how? By doing the killing, or by preventing it from being killed?
[19:01] <adac> grawity, Yea tors repo
[19:01] <th1> maybe reinstall is better
[19:01] <hellyes> woble: where can I get that? is it compatible with photoshop i.e. - opening/closing photoshop files?
[19:02] <woble> wsch , could have said: gimp is an equivalent of photoshop that also works on linux
[19:02] <TNA5000> adac: no karmic repo
[19:02] <woble> hellyes , it comes with ubuntu
[19:02] <grawity> adac: IIRC, Tor devs made their own repository because it's very important for Tor to be updated as soon as possible.
[19:02] <nick125> th1: That's what I'm starting to think....I guess I better get the USB drive out
[19:02] <Halitech> hellyes, it is normally installed by default, look under graphics
[19:02] <rockrat> hello
[19:02] <woble> hellyes , start -> graphics -> gimp
[19:02] <Shikaku> hellyes: it's installed by default on ubuntu, but you can go to http://gimp.org
[19:02] <wsch> woble, it doesnt mahter its just that some people might now think that gimp is linux only, thats all
[19:02] <K4nkr0> amsn can not install
[19:02] <DopeGhoti> icehawk78: ulimit can limit a user's processes memory or process count usage, for example, so such a runaway will be killed
[19:02] <adac> grawity, Ahh i see. Of course that is a good decision
[19:02] <hellyes> will gimp open photoshop files?
[19:03] <DopeGhoti> hellyes: I believe it will
[19:03] <wsch> woble, didnt mean it in a bad way
[19:03] <roy> ripps: I think the FAQ is strongly recommending 1x to 2x swap is HDD space is available
[19:03] <adac> TNA5000, already tried to replace jaunty with karmic?
[19:03] <Halitech> hellyes, its opened everything I've thrown at it
[19:03] <woble> wsch, i know ;)
[19:03] <ripps> roy: yes
[19:03] <linved> hey i need some help, to get WPA work in 9.10, last time i got my wificard to work whit WPA was whit ubuntu 8.X. (and works great in windows)
[19:03] <adac> TNA5000, MEan in the repository
[19:03] <myNickName> hi all - does anyone know if the desktop install cd of ubuntu 9.10 supports installation on an encrypted root fs (luks)?
[19:03] <wsch> roy, correct
[19:03] <sd32> my usb sound card isnt working in 9.10, the sound settings sees it but no sound how can i get it working?
[19:03] <derek_smart> roy: that much swap is undeeded
[19:03] <jonaskul> Can I have some help with Wine?
[19:03] <woble> someone already installed Grub2 on Karmic after Jaunty upgrade without cyclic dependency error?
[19:03] <wsch> roy, most people use 1.5times amount of RAM now
[19:03] <Amaranth> myNickName: To setup luks you have to use the alternative install disc
[19:03] <derek_smart> roy: stop suggesting users should waste their hdd space like that
[19:03] <hellyes> do windows device drivers work with ubuntu?
[19:03] <icehawk78> DopeGhoti: I'm actually trying to do the exact opposite. I've got a program that I want to have access to basically all possible memory unless it will literally crash the computer. I'm trying to map out the entire progression of a prng, so it'll need *lots* of memory.
[19:03] <duffydack> hellyes, It will open them, but I`m unsure as to if it can save layer information as psd.... its best to use gimps .xcf format
[19:04] <petsounds> theadmin : r u with me?
[19:04] <myNickName> Amaranth: thank you!
[19:04] <wsch> roy, unless you are rally short on diskspace or something i woudl recommend 3GB
[19:04] <kwagga1> What can I do if ubuntu picked up a too large resolution? - since setting the right res, causes funny lines to appear, it looks severely stretched...
[19:04] <woble> swap? what swap? do we use swap? :P
[19:04] <TNA5000> adac: i'm sorry? what do you mean "MEan in the repository"?
[19:04] <wsch> for 2GB RAM
[19:04] <Ademan> sd32: have you tried opening up the sound prefereces (right click on the speaker, hit preferences) and tried to enable all of the mixers you can, and crank them up? it's possible some obscure mixer setting is muted or something
[19:04] <grawity> TNA5000: Just read the page adac gave you.
[19:04] <Amaranth> woble: Try using aptitude to do it
[19:04] <grawity> TNA5000: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TOR
[19:04] <ripps> roy: just so you know, since have a large amount of ram, you might want to change your vm.swappiness (bottom of the faq) so that linux will use more of your ram and cache to swap less. This will make things more responsive
[19:04] <Amaranth> woble: sudo aptitude install grub-pc
[19:04] <roy> derek_smart: I am not suggesting anything to anybody. It's on Ubuntu FAQ
[19:04] <sg999> hi i just upgraded to 9.10 and have  VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82945G/GZ Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02) and am unable to get display settings greater than 800x600.  Any suggestions?
[19:04] <TNA5000> ok will do.
[19:04] <TNA5000> thanks
[19:04] <Shikaku> sd32: System, Preferences, Sound and Click the output tab and select the usb sound card
[19:04] <Shikaku> i use swap for hibernation and VM
[19:04] <albasheers> blue tooth not working after installing karmic kola
[19:04] <DopeGhoti> icehawk78: Interesting.  You'll want, then, to tell ulimit *not* to limit you, but I'm not going to help set off a fork bomb in here ;)
[19:04] <jonaskul> How can I install Wine beta release on Karmic?
[19:04] <derek_smart> wsch: thats too much... ubuntu is being presented as an unbloated alternative to windows, stop making people dispose of precious hdd space like that
[19:05] <clainth> hello
[19:05] <K4nkr0> hello
[19:05] <netbook> Can someone pastebin their Iptables where ssh ip is blocked after a few tries?
[19:05] <boscop> why does ubuntu show the black screen after 1 minute idle?
[19:05] <hellyes> will windows device drivers work with ubuntu?
[19:05] <woble> Amaranth , nopez same error.. but browsing through bug reports atm :)
[19:05] <sd32> Ademan,shikaku thanks
[19:05] <boscop> I set it to 10 min
[19:05] <wsch> derek_smart, im just gonna ignore you, you are severily annoying
[19:05] <igama> hellyes, no
[19:05] <adac> TNA5000, /etc/apt/sources.list add those: http://pastie.org/677166
[19:05] <clainth> does anyone experience connectivity with ubuntuone
[19:05] <roy> ripps: Thanks, thats really great tip
[19:05] <Halitech> hellyes, mostly no but some wireless drivers will
[19:05] <nick125> netbook: I use denyhosts, which uses /etc/hosts.deny rather than iptables
[19:05] <dupondje> can somebody try printing from flash ? does it show printers ?
[19:05] <woble> once this is solved there is only one more thing to solve: the frickin' drums on startup ^^
[19:05] <myNickName> bye folks, thank you for the help!
[19:06] <woble> who invented these things anyways
[19:06] <Amaranth> jonaskul: install the wine1.2 package
[19:06] <icehawk78> DopeGhoti: Is there a simple way to at least tell if ulimit is installed/running, to see if that's what I need to look for?
[19:06] <derek_smart> wsch: eventually you wont be able to, since what youre doing is directly against this channels code of conduct
[19:06] <Shikaku> dupondje: ok, brb
[19:06] <netbook> nick125 is that better/worse than iptabels
[19:06] <adac> After upgrading to 9.10 my X server won't start on boot anymore. I can start X with startx though. Any ideas what's wrong?
[19:06] <G_A_C> netbook: it's more automatic and does the job you want
[19:06] <Amaranth> derek_smart: I think you're a bit confused
[19:06] <ArianHT_> hi, i'm running ubuntu 9.04 and my Software Sources looks like this : http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/214/screenshotsoftwaresourc.png     , how should i remove that Blueman item from list?!(When i click on remove, nothing happens!)
[19:06] <DopeGhoti> icehawk78: ulimit should be installed by default
[19:06] <tooth> aha! Found it. So FYI,  WindowsKey (Super) + mousewheel == Desktop ZOOM with Compiz enabled
[19:06] <igama> adac, graphic card?
[19:06] <derek_smart> Amaranth: as to what
[19:06] <Amaranth> derek_smart: The Code of Conduct, for one
[19:06] <nicklas_> ubuntu 9.10 is really good, just missing some features in empathy, such as notify icon, possibility to turn of logging, and webcam support
[19:06] <netbook> nick125 i have a netbook and thus get multiple ips, deny host only allows a static ip?
[19:06] <derek_smart> Amaranth: ive been trying to render hurd since i got here
[19:06] <hellyes> igma: how do you get proper ubuntu drivers for your devices? do I have to go search them all out or does it recognize them itself?
[19:06] <DopeGhoti> icehawk78: to check, run 'ulimit'; if it replies 'unlimited', fork bomb away :)
[19:07] <dupondje> nicklas_: and file transfer support imo
[19:07] <petsounds> anybody can help me to get 3gp audio work on karmic?
[19:07] <igama> hellyes, most devices are recognized by them self
[19:07] <nick125> netbook: denyhosts will only block a host if they try to SSH in with the incorrect password too many times.
[19:07] <sampo_> hello
[19:07] <nicklas_> dupondje, it dont have that either?
[19:07] <igama> hellyes, the big majority of then have no problems
[19:07] <innomen> is there a list or wiki somewhere for all software?
[19:07] <netbook> nick125 how do i set that up.
[19:07] <adac> igama, Well it is a persisten live usb stick I only had the "normal" drivers installed and on jhaunty it worked on everys amchine I've tried
[19:07] <dupondje> nicklas_: don't think so :P
[19:07] <netbook> nick125 can you pastebin yoru conf?
[19:07] <icehawk78> DopeGhoti: Hm, I ran that and it did say unlimited. But the last time I tried the script, it still stopped midway and just exited with "Killed"
[19:07] <sampo_> I need a hand of assistance...concerning wireless drivers
[19:07] <jonaskul> Amaranth, Thanks a lot!
[19:07] <enjo451> Hi all... I have a Dell Inspiron running a Broadcom wireless 4312. Worked great under 9.04. Upgrading to 9.10 broke it. I've tried the fix of installing bcmwl-kernel-source... I have the Broadcom STA driver available and activated under 'Hardware Drivers'. I can see my local network, but it simply refuses to connect to it. It prompts me for the password.. I enter it... it doesn't actually connect.
[19:07] <gigabytes> hello
[19:08] <sg999> hi i just upgraded to 9.10 and have  VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82945G/GZ Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02) and am unable to get display settings greater than 800x600.  Any suggestions?
[19:08] <sampo_> apua
[19:08] <nick125> netbook: I'm using the default config.
[19:08] <DopeGhoti> icehawk78: something else must be watchdogging it for you, then.
[19:08] <sampo_> kuka puhuu suomea sisalla?
[19:08] <gigabytes> my computer freezed while installing a restricted driver for a broadcom wireless card
[19:08] <nicklas_> dupondje, :-( then why did they change? and have you changed back to pidgin?
[19:08] <gigabytes> now, dpkg seems screwed up
[19:08] <coz_> sampo_,  I know too little about wireless set ups  and driver issues   ...howver...if no on here can help  you may want to go to ##linux channel
[19:08] <dupondje> nicklas_: sudo aptitude install pidgin ? :P
[19:08] <roy> I currently have a very large swap, with default spwappiness. (60) I think that's why my ubuntu is rather slow.
[19:08] <kisuke> how does one upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10? do you need a CD? or can you do it from command line?
[19:08] <Shikaku> dupondje: yes it does work
[19:09] <adac> igama, should I try to install the vesa driver gaian?
[19:09] <adac> *again
[19:09] <nicklas_> dupondje, lol yes
[19:09] <G_A_C> kisuke: do-release-upgrade from the command line should start the upgrade
[19:09] <gigabytes> I can't remove the bcmwl-kernel-source and the restricted drivers window doesn't work anymore
[19:09] <gigabytes> how can I solve this?
[19:09] <th1> roy, how much swap does "free" tell you it's using
[19:09] <hanasaki> how d you turn off syntax coloring / highighinting in vim?
[19:09] <nick125> kisuke: You can do it without a CD. If you have a GUI, update-manager, otherwise do-release-upgrade (iirc)
[19:09] <enjo451> kisuke: Easiest way is to use the upgrade tool under system
[19:09] <G_A_C> kisuke: or click the new version button in the graphical update manager
[19:09] <sampo_> ubuntu 9.10 does not have drivers for my wirless card, what to do?
[19:09] <dupondje> hmz Shikaku: it shows printers when you try priting from a flash page ?
[19:09] <ArianHT_> hi, i'm running ubuntu 9.04 and my Software Sources looks like this : http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/214/screenshotsoftwaresourc.png     , how should i remove that Blueman item from list?!(When i click on remove, nothing happens!)
[19:09] <enjo451> sampo_: which card is it?
[19:09] <CrocoJet> sad that webcams are not working 100% at kernel 2.6.31
[19:09] <DopeGhoti> Hahahan: check your ~/.vimrc
[19:09] <kisuke> domo arigato all
[19:09] <sampo_> I have hp530 notebook
[19:09] <sg999> sampo try ndiswrapper
[19:09] <nick125> kisuke: Although, I've found it faster _with_ a CD, as you can grab the ISO from bittorrent rather than congested mirrors.
[19:09] <sampo_> I think intel
[19:10] <sampo_> yes, Intel
[19:10] <roy> th1: What's "free" ?
[19:10] <sg999> sampo add the wndows .inf driver for your wireless device
[19:10] <th1> th1, command to type in the terminal
[19:10] <Kate> Greetings
[19:10] <kisuke> nick125: not blody likely, i have 23 gig worth of torrent going id be wating for a day or 2 either way
[19:10] <sampo_> I downloaded the 9.10 version, but I was not able to use my wifi card...the only way to have access to net...
[19:10] <Kate> Hey...
[19:10] <Kate> Anybody know much about partman-auto?
[19:10] <wsch> th1, you highlighted yourself lol
[19:10] <th1> roy, command to type in the terminal :)
[19:11] <TNA5000> adac: grawity: Err http://mirror.noreply.org karmic/main Packages        404  Not Found    Err http://mirror.noreply.org karmic/main Sources         404  Not Found
[19:11] <th1> wsch, yeah just noticed ;)
[19:11] <netbook> what is benefeit of ufw logging?
[19:11] <sampo_> any suggested drivers?
[19:11] <netbook> and where can i access them?
[19:11] <wsch> th1, i tohught you missed it :)
[19:11] <grawity> TNA5000: Use 'jaunty' for a while, until the Tor devs update their repository.
[19:11] <roy> th1: System monitor reports 1.9MB of 3.8GB swap in use now
[19:11] <sg999> any ideas on resetting display to larger than 800x600?
[19:11] <TNA5000> ok, i'll give that a shot
[19:11] <th1> roy, if it's only using 1.9MB it's not likely to be contributing to any slowness
[19:12] <dupondje> Shikaku: its weird :x
[19:12] <dawid> cześć
[19:12] <adac> grawity, Yeah listen to grawity. I'm sure the karmic repo will come soon
[19:12] <Scunizi> sg999: that's typically a video driver issue.. what kind of vid card do you have?
[19:12] <wsch> roy, i think your speed problems are totally unrelated to your swap, your swap should be fine
[19:12] <wsch> considering your RAM size
[19:12] <Laserbeak> how do i check my vidcard and install the latest drivers for it? it's an intel card
[19:12] <sg999>  VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82945G/GZ Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02
[19:12] <roy> The links in the built-in help open very slowly, and pictures open like animations.
[19:12] <sampo_> ?
[19:12] <Halitech> Laserbeak, lspci | grep VGA
[19:13] <th1> roy, you can always try to unmount the swap partition (sudo swapoff -a) to see if it makes a difference. you have enough RAM that it shouldn't break anything.
[19:13] <crazy2k_> How do I install a specific version of a package?
[19:13] <Laserbeak> Halitech: thx
[19:13] <th1> crazy2k_, aptitude -t repository package-name
[19:13] <sampo_> any one?
[19:13] <Scunizi> sg999: that had some issues with the 9.04 release but is suppose to be fixed in 9.10... have you done a full system update yet?
[19:13] <G_A_C> crazy2k_: either apt-pinning, or IIRC you can do something like "aptitude install package/repo"
[19:13] <sg999> yes just got done and have been *&^**!! wrestling with this for a cpl of hrs now
[19:14] <gh0zt> can gparted resize partitions?
[19:14] <crazy2k_> th1: And the version number?
[19:14] <IndyGunFreak> sampo_, well, i've been unable to find a "my wifi card" w/ Google.. so perhaps you should tell us what wifi card you hae
[19:14] <Laserbeak> Halitech: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 03)
[19:14] <Laserbeak> now what do i do?
[19:14] <trijntje> !wifi|sampo_,
[19:14] <distant_voice> I installed the beta, so it seems like I'm in the development tree (whatever that means). Can I get back to the stable tree now that Koala is released?
[19:14] <IdleOne> gh0zt: yes but you must unmount the partition to do so
[19:14] <hanasaki> how do you enable xdmcp ?  the login prefs no longer have the option.. what ifile do I edit?
[19:14] <differentreality> hi, i upgraded today from 9.04 to 9.10 and I seem to have a huge problem with videos, I cannot play neither avi nor mp4 with any of my players (vlc, mplayer/kmplayer)  is this a known problem? is there a thread with a solution or sth ?? thanks!
[19:14] <sg999> i've even resinstalled xserver-xorg-video -intel to no avail
[19:14] <gh0zt> IdleOne: k, thanks
[19:14] <G_A_C> crazy2k_: you can't just pick a version number; you have to use a version which is available in a repo. so you have to use whichever repo has the version you want in it, and if none of them have it, you can't install it with apt.
[19:14] <IndyGunFreak> differentreality, thats odd, i play everything fine.
[19:14] <Scunizi> sg999: open synaptic package manager and search for intel or 945 and see what pops up.. you might have to install the driver from there.
[19:14] <netbook> I just did "sudo /etc/init.d/networking stop" and I am still connected to internet :/
[19:15] <differentreality> IndyGunFreak,  have you upgraded or do you have a clean install ?
[19:15] <th1> crazy2k_, if it's not the latest version in one of your repositories you must download the .deb file manually and install it using dpkg -i filename.deb
[19:15] <sg999> yah, tried that
[19:15] <IndyGunFreak> differentreality, always do a clean install
[19:15] <Halitech> differentreality, you may need to re-enable the medibuntu repos and reinstall ubuntu-restricted-extras
[19:15] <wsch> gh0zt, and take a backup!
[19:15] <xjkx>  i share a connection by NAT, just so the computer in the living room can have internet too, there is no router, its just one machine connected to another. the thing is, the connection in the living room downloads too slow, while the connection in the "server" downloads fine, but i am not doing anything there in the computer in my room, if i could get all the connection speed from the server(room) to the client(living room) that would be great. I can't just 
[19:15] <crazy2k_> th1: I want a version from a jaunty repo. But now I'm on karmic.
[19:15] <IndyGunFreak> Halitech, really, vlc should play those formats w/o medibuntu
[19:15] <ubuntu_> Hi
[19:15] <differentreality> IndyGunFreak,  i c :)  well so it could be the case that there is some old file or sth that is creating this problem i guess, but it is really really weird indeed
[19:15] <Jeruvy> differentreality: not really, more info needed about your issue.
[19:15] <sg999> weird thing is when i dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg i don't get any kind of dialog
[19:15] <wsch> i cant get grub working on my partition, i intend to start grub with BCD, that part works fine, only grub immediately gives me a CLI
[19:16] <Halitech> IndyGunFreak, ok, missed vlc with the room scrolling as fast as it is
[19:16] <wsch> no error or anything that i can see
[19:16] <th1> crazy2k_, which package is it?
[19:16] <G_A_C> sg999: I think you need to use dpkg-configure -p low xorgblah to make it ask more questions during the installation.
[19:16] <IndyGunFreak> Halitech, lol gotta go full screen to keep up here.. :)
[19:16] <n8tuser> xjkx-> have a drawing of your network layout? paste it please, a pix is worth a thousand words
[19:16] <wsch> any suggestions?
[19:16] <sampo_> http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/SoftwareIndex.jsp?lang=en&cc=us&prodNameId=3375995&prodTypeId=321957&prodSeriesId=3375953&swLang=13&taskId=135&swEnvOID=1093
[19:16] <gh0zt> wsch: i don't do backups, that's sooooooo 80's :)
[19:16] <Halitech> IndyGunFreak, I am in full screen ~L~
[19:16] <Scunizi> sg999: you may be able to do that from the rescue mode on boot.. I seem to remember there is a video reconfiguration choice there.
[19:16] <sampo_> this the link for the specifications of my laptop:(hp530 notebook)
[19:16] <sampo_> with 9.04 wifi drivers were ok
[19:17] <sampo_> so, I reinstalled 9.04
[19:17] <wsch> xjkx, you can setup QoS (quality over service)
[19:17] <IndyGunFreak> sampo_, that still tells us nothing... open a terminal and type "lspci" no quotes.. then hit enter, and see how it identifies your wireless device
[19:17] <sg999> thnx lemme try that
[19:17] <th1> sampo_, you may find the compat-wireless bleeding edge drivers can help you.
[19:17] <wsch> gh0zt, you are insane unless you dont have data on your comp you cannot loose
[19:17] <roy> I have changed the swappiness to 10. Now I"ll reboot and see. See you guys later
[19:17] <xjkx> n8tuser: what do you mean ? you want my iptables commands ? :P if you wanna know how the machines are connected, there is a blue cable connecting them, thats all
[19:17] <th1> sampo_, http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Download
[19:17] <IndyGunFreak> roy, 10?.. 10 what?
[19:17] <G_A_C> roy: you can just do "sudo sysctl -a", no need to reboot
[19:18] <xjkx> wsch: gonna google thanks
[19:18] <wsch> xjkx, no problem, you can probably also do it simpler
[19:18] <sampo_>  lspci
[19:18] <n8tuser> xjkx-> easier to discuss a drawing than what you have described (for me),
[19:18] <sampo_> 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GME Express Memory Controller Hub (rev 03)
[19:18] <sampo_> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GME Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[19:18] <sampo_> 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[19:18] <sampo_> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)
[19:18] <FloodBot3> sampo_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:18] <sampo_> 00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express Port 1 (rev 01)
[19:18] <quentusrex> Can someone help? do-release-upgrade is hanging
[19:18] <IndyGunFreak> sampo_, are you retarded?.. i said your wireless device, not the whole damn lspci
[19:18] <quentusrex> Right after 'Checking for a new ubuntu release'
[19:18] <dual_> I've upgraded to 9.10 but every time I visit a page with flash, I hear a very loud "pop" from the loudspeakers. It's really annoying, any idea how to fix it?
[19:19] <wsch> n8tuser, its his modem that goes to a computer, and that computer does NAT to a second computer, if i understood correctly but im pretty sure i did
[19:19] <G_A_C> quentusrex: it may be that the mirror you are using is slow
[19:19] <Scunizi> IndyGunFreak: calma.. calma..
[19:19] <IndyGunFreak> Scunizi, lol, i was born calm. :)
[19:19] <crazy2k_> th1: Will it work if I try to install a deb with an old version?
[19:19] <Halitech> dual_, don't go to pages with flash? ;)
[19:19] <wsch> n8tuser, and the second computer has less bandwidth then the other
[19:19] <quentusrex> G_A_C, nope. because it is only on one of my servers
[19:19] <sampo_> Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g (rev 01)
[19:19] <n8tuser> wsch-> a layout is much easier to discuss, words sometimes gets mis-interpreted
[19:19] <ubuntistas> how do i install jdownloader?
[19:19] <quentusrex> all the rest of the servers works
[19:19] <IndyGunFreak> but breathing requires a modicum of common sense, which he apparently lacks.. "A channel of 1800 people, so i'll post my whol lspci here..lol"
[19:19] <th1> crazy2k_, it depends .. which .deb is it?
[19:19] <ubuntistas> any clue?
[19:19] <roy> G_A_C: I don't see any vm.swappiness there. Should I enter it? And "save"?
[19:19] <sampo_> are there some drivers?
[19:19] <StarMatt> Hello, I'm on the live of karmic and I would like to know how to enable the Moblin interface (I'm on the desktop version), can you help me plz ?
[19:19] <Halitech> dual_, did you reinstall flashplugin-nonfree?
[19:19] <dual_> Halitech, I know, I know, but stumbleupon.com still takes me to flash pages every once in a while
[19:20] <ctmjr> IndyGunFreak, be nice
[19:20] <dual_> Halitech, no, I just upgraded from 9.04
[19:20] <G_A_C> roy: you can edit /etc/sysctl.conf to change sysctl settings, and yes; if what you want isn't there, then add it
[19:20] <IndyGunFreak> ctmjr, i'm being realistic.. if he can't grasp that, do you think he's gona grasp any instructions?
[19:20] <Halitech> dual_, maybe try (re)installing it
[19:20] <G_A_C> roy: I typed sysctl -a didn't I? I meant sysctl -p :D
[19:20] <th1> roy, there is no need to adjust swappiness on a normal desktop system.. only servers with certain non-standard workloads may benefit in special cases
[19:20] <dual_> Halitech, yea, I'll give it a try
[19:20] <G_A_C> roy: to set sysctl stuff, edit /etc/sysctl.conf to add/edit the value you're changing, and then run sysctl -p to make it take effect
[19:21] <dual_> Halitech, hmm, seems like every time something is going to make a sound, I get the pop now
[19:21] <crazy2k_> th1: python-wxgtk2.8
[19:21] <dual_> Maybe it's a pulseaudio issue?
[19:21] <IndyGunFreak> sampo_, i'm not sure if you can do this w/o an internet connection or not...  http://jetpackweb.com/blog/2009/10/29/ubuntu-9-10-karmic-koala-and-broadcom-bcm4312/
[19:21] <wsch> th1, he has speed problems and thinks they are related to his SWAP partition :s
[19:21] <Halitech> dual_, could be ... maybe check your mixer settings
[19:21] <digital-rouge> hey anyone having cdrom trouble wiht the new update?
[19:21] <JonathanEllis> I am trying to resize partitions on a usb disk using gparted. I unmount the partitions first but for some reason they automatically remount during the resize operation so it fails. Why do the partitions keep remounting?
[19:21] <Ed54> #ubuntu achieved a max peak of 1866 users by binaryDragon on Thu Oct 29 10:20:48 2009.
[19:21] <raven_> which distri/system easily builds up a performance-cluster?
[19:21] <Acegi> Quick question, what do I search in synaptics to install java?
[19:22] <th1> crazy2k_, from looking at the karmic version of that package it will probably work. unless some other packages on your karmic depend on the newer version.
[19:22] <Acegi> Not sure what to install
[19:22] <helloyou> hi, I am trying to install ubuntu via a live cd but when it comes to the step where I am supposed to prepare partitions it can not find my HD. When I try to mount (by right clicking and selecting mount) the HD I get nothing back
[19:22] <IndyGunFreak> Acegi, sun-java6 i think.... there's quite a few packages for it..
[19:22] <n8tuser> JonathanEllis-> because of udev, uses auto mount
[19:22] <Halitech> Acegi, search for jre, you probably want the version 6
[19:22] <ctmjr> !java | Acegi
[19:22] <JonathanEllis> Acegi: searh for openjdk or sunjava
[19:22] <dungodung> when I wanted to start epiphany-browser in karmic, I got the "unlock keyring" dialog, but neither the default keyring password nor the "deny" button work. the dialog just keeps popping and prompting me for a password; killing the process(es) restarts the dialog and I can't seem to get rid of it.
[19:22] <th1> crazy2k_, the worst that can happen is that that package and those depending on it won't work until you reinstall the karmic version, so it's worth a try
[19:22] <Scunizi> helloyou: is it a fresh HD with nothing on it?
[19:22] <Acegi> ok thanks!
[19:22] <wsch> helloyou, yesterday someone was in here with the exact same problem
[19:23] <sampo_> I don't have my own net connection, without wifi, I am out of the net, so when I install 9.10, I have NOT net
[19:23] <roy> G_A_C: Did that. Terminal shows swappiness =10. Is it in effect currently or reboot required?
[19:23] <G_A_C> roy: that's it, it's in effect
[19:23] <sampo_> I have net through wifi only...municipality wifi
[19:23] <helloyou> Scunizi, no it contains files
[19:23] <G_A_C> (for what little effect it probably will have)
[19:23] <LiteHedded> installed 9.10 and my compiz window open effects are choppy now. anyone know why?
[19:23] <sampo_> sudo apt-get install won't work...:(
[19:23] <brian_> my system is crashing every couple hours. I've looked through the system logs and right before my system crashes this shows up in the syslog "wpa_supplicant[1545]: CTRL-EVENT-SCAN-RESULTS "
[19:23] <helloyou> wsch, do you know how it was solved?
[19:23] <Digit0> Hello
[19:23] <Halitech> LiteHedded, what video card?
[19:23] <LiteHedded> it's a sony laptop
[19:23] <LiteHedded> not sure exactly
[19:23] <th1> crazy2k_, download it from the bottom of the page here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/python-wxgtk2.8
[19:24] <Digit0> empathy is not connecting with msn, may it be an issue of server / port ??
[19:24] <wsch> helloyou, no sorry, the person had to leave, it was very strange
[19:24] <Halitech> LiteHedded, open a terminal and paste the output of lspci | grep VGA
[19:24] <th1> crazy2k_, then save it and run sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[19:24] <ripps> roy: calls to sysctl take effect immedietly, but to make sure, reset your swap. `sudo swapoff -a && sudo swapon -a`
[19:24] <LiteHedded> k
[19:24] <wsch> helloyou, im curious aswell on how to solve the problem
[19:24] <Stavros> hello
[19:24] <Digit0> it connects if I use meebo.com web
[19:24] <Stavros> how can i change my screen gamma by default?
[19:24] <MasterofPuppets> Guys, if I label a partition "C:" in GParted, think that will fool Vista into taking it in as its own?
[19:24] <StarMatt> Nobody knows how to use Moblin on karmic plzzzz ?
[19:24] <dr3mro> i followed this guide in jaunty and it did fix my fn keys http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=97472 but after upgrade to karmic i can apply fix any more can you help me
[19:24] <JonathanEllis> !hi | Stavros
[19:24] <helloyou> Scunizi, and the HD is already ext3 (but contains files). Should I format it, would that be the key?
[19:24] <wsch> helloyou, if you find a solution and im still here, if you remember you can highlight me if you want
[19:25] <LiteHedded> Halitech: nothing happens
[19:25] <grawity> MasterofPuppets: Doubt it... Windows has its own disk manager, uses UUIDs.
[19:25] <helloyou> wsch, i'll try not to forget :)
[19:25] <Halitech> LiteHedded, did you copy and paste the command? it should give you something
[19:25] <roy> ripps: swappoff shows a promptand returned nothing
[19:25] <Scunizi> helloyou: only if you don't mind loosing those files.
[19:25] <LiteHedded> just comes back to command line
[19:25] <MasterofPuppets> grawity: Argh. All I've got to work with are my Windows recovery disks, and they won't install without either erasing my entire drive or finding a C: drive :C
[19:25] <ripps> roy: give it a second, its clearing your swap
[19:25] <wsch> helloyou, thanx, if i think of anything that can help in the meantime ill let you know
[19:25] <helloyou> Scunizi, I alreay have a backup so I'll try that
[19:25] <Halitech> LiteHedded, ok, run lspci and use pastebin to give us the output
[19:26] <LiteHedded> whoops lower case vga
[19:26] <brian_> I'm new to linux and need some help figuring out why my system is crashing randomly can someone help me
[19:26] <LiteHedded> Halitech: intel 915gm/gms/910gml
[19:27] <LiteHedded> integrated intel graphics
[19:27] <Halitech> !intel | LiteHedded
[19:27] <LiteHedded> it worked in 9.04
[19:27] <Digit0> messenger.hotmail.com port 1863 is working ?
[19:27] <Halitech> LiteHedded, that doesn't help much, myabe they didn't get the bugs out in 9.10 regarding intel video cards
[19:27] <antii> Anyone know how the compability with ATI HD4870 & Ubuntu 9.10 is?
[19:27] <ripps> roy: also, with my 1gb of ram, turning my vm.swappiness to 0 gives me a good deal of performance, but if you ever do exceed your ram's limit expect your system to freeze for few seconds, as it needs to intialize swap (which it hadn't been using till then)
[19:27] <sampo_> where to find broadcom drivers, and how to build it when I have no connection to the net?, that's the question
[19:28] <helloyou> ok, I want to format a partition @ 103 GB but GParted only finds one @ 96GB. Is this the correct partition? (btw, I do not want to format the whole HD as I am using the computer as a dual boot)
[19:28] <Halitech> antii, should be fine
[19:28] <almoxarife> i have a karmic installed on a VM running on karmic, i lose the keyboard on return from sleep, anyone else had like issue?
[19:28] <Sashi1> hello is it possible to switch workspaces by moving the mouse to one side of the screen without using compiz?
[19:28] <brian_> I'm new to linux and need some help figuring out why my system is crashing randomly can someone help me
[19:28] <helloyou> btw, should I use ext3 or ext4 for ubuntu 9.10? Is ext4 better?
[19:28] <sampo_> :X
[19:28] <gunther_> Hi there. I upgraded my netbook to 9.10, but now I am no longer able to connect to _hidden_ wireless networks (WPA2 in this case).Created "connection setting", but when trying to connect, the "connect" button is greyed out. Does anyone know about that?
[19:28] <Kate> GOsh
[19:28] <_jonesy_> I have a Macbook pro that I am going to dual boot Ubuntu 9.10 and Snow Leopard. Should I go with the x64 or x86 version of Ubuntu?
[19:28] <almoxarife> lose kyboard control in the vm, that is
[19:29] <Kate> I wish the Ubuntu 9 partman-auto script worked: (
[19:29] <Kate> T_T
[19:29] <Stavros> how can i add xorg.conf settings in karmic?
[19:29] <sampo_> polla zitas
[19:29] <wsch> almoxarife, i believe with vmware you can choose between uSB keyobard / mouse and PS2, try using PS2 if its set to USB
[19:29] <Stavros> sampo_: oust
[19:29] <trism> Sashi1: check out the brightside package, that might be what you need
[19:29] <IndyGunFreak> _jonesy_, i always go w/ 32bit.. but 64bit has come a long way w/ compatibility
[19:29] <sampo_> lol
[19:29] <Stavros> :P
[19:30] <sampo_> mporeis na me boitheiseis?
[19:30] <Stavros> what's wrong?
[19:30] <_jonesy_> IndyGunFreak: I have 4GB's of memory in this laptop, so that was why I was thinking of going with 64bit
[19:30] <Take0n> op 2 ellines :P
[19:30] <roy> ripps: Still no response from terminal. Stopped at the prompt
[19:30] <Stavros> ela re patrida :p
[19:30] <Bearcat> does anyone know how to turn off the netbook remix launcher in 9.10 so i ahve a 'standard' desktop?
[19:30] <wsch> almoxarife, what are you using btw? virtualbox? vmware? qemu? ...
[19:30] <sampo_> ebala 9.10, alla den exei tous drivers gia th wifi cardmou
[19:30] <Stavros> hmm
[19:30] <Stavros> ndiswrapper?
[19:30] <ripps> roy: oh well, your swap will be cleared on reboot
[19:30] <Take0n> sampo_, nai to akousa apo 3 diaforetika atoma auto :p
[19:30] <almoxarife> wsch: virtualbox
[19:30] <Sashi1> trism: thanks alot :D i'll try it
[19:30] <Take0n> simera..
[19:30] <rpj8> If one installs ubuntu with "wubi," does it actually install it to a separate partition, or does it leave the original partitions intact? I've never actually used it myself.
[19:30] <yancho> any one can please help me get firefox to see my plugins please? i am on firefox 3.5.4 and the guys from #firefox told me to speak with you guys due to problem with path
[19:31] <Stavros> rpj8: it installs in a file, no partitioning
[19:31] <sampo_> den exo diko mou net, otan bazo karta exo net mono, wifi tou dimou athinaion
[19:31] <carresmd> anyone noticed that empathy is 'losing' messages?
[19:31] <IndyGunFreak> _jonesy_, i guess if that 500mb of ram that it won't recognize means that much to you, then use 64bit.
[19:31] <brian_> I'm new to linux and need some help figuring out why my system is randomly crashing can someone please help me
[19:31] <roy> ripps: So I"ll have to input swapon then?
[19:31] <Stavros> sampo_: vale to ndiswrapper me windows driver, tha doulepsei
[19:31] <Halitech> rpj8, wubi installs as a file inside windows leaving the partitions intact
[19:31] <rpj8> Stavros: So does it boot windows first then, and THEN ubuntu inside of the windows boot?
[19:31] <ripps> roy: what does `free -m` say? It should tell you if your using any swap or not
[19:31] <sampo_> pos tha to kano auto...newbie..:)
[19:31] <Stavros> rpj8: no, i think it reads the file from the ntfs drive to boot
[19:31] <jedivulcan> 8gb enough to install karmic without many programs?
[19:31] <Bearcat> brian_: you might try the #linux-help room. Might be less busy
[19:31] <Stavros> sampo_: des edo, efkolo einai https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[19:31] <wsch> almoxarife, i cant check on this comp, no virtualbox here atm, dunno if you can choose USB / PS2 keyboard on virtualbox, never had keyboard issues
[19:31] <sampo_> thanx
[19:31] <LiteHedded> it's weird that wobbly windows looks find
[19:31] <LiteHedded> fine
[19:32] <trism> jedivulcan: should be plenty, I'm only at 3 gigs at the moment
[19:32] <ripps> roy: yes, you should always have your swap on, just in case
[19:32] <Guest17321> not ubuntu related: does anyone know a way to make a domain stop resolving?  Like set the nameservers to something that does not exist?
[19:32] <LiteHedded> but open effects are choppy
[19:32] <IndyGunFreak> !packages | sampo_ you might be able to download it here... I dunno.
[19:32] <LiteHedded> also 3d gaming is fine
[19:32] <Stavros> jedivulcan: mine uses 6gb with a programs and things
[19:32] <roy> ripps: The terminal is stuck at a prompt with no message after swapoff -a. What do I do?
[19:32] <trism> jedivulcan: although that isn't including my /home
[19:32] <th1> crazy2k_, did you get it working?
[19:32] <IndyGunFreak> sampo_, it might be on the ubuntu CD, are you sure the CD is part of your source list?
[19:32] <ripps> roy: oh, to cancel any process in the termil, just hold ctrl+c.
[19:33] <grawity> terminal*
[19:33] <logan__> Hi, just upgraded my Ubuntu to Koala and having a whole range of issues. 1: No sound. 2: Video is strange colors. 3: My menu bar decided to be huge all of a sudden (resolution is fine). 4: Can't scroll to switch desktops anymore. That's the main things I've found so far. Help? :D
[19:33] <linved> cant get WPA to work in 9.10 (Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection (rev 02) )
[19:33] <G_A_C> roy: it's probably getting everything out of swap and back into main RAM. that can take a while
[19:33] <jedivulcan> thanks guys
[19:33] <mythguy> I'm having trouble playing DVDs with Totem. Could someone help?
[19:33] <rpj8>  /close
[19:33] <logan__> FYI, while I can screw around with settings quite well, I'm essentially a Linux noob.
[19:33] <rpj8> gay
[19:33] <roy> ripps. Thanks. used1, free 3904
[19:33] <rpj8> gah***
[19:33] <subbu> logan: did you do an upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10?
[19:33] <FloodBot3> rpj8: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:34] <Scunizi> !dvd | mythguy
[19:34] <sampo_> well, I installed 9.10, and I tried to find drivers on the 9.10 cd, but not able...newbie:(
[19:34] <IndyGunFreak> mythguy, did you install libdvdcss2?
[19:34] <logan__> subbu, yes, I did.
[19:34] <ripps> roy: lol, was having trouble with that last megabyte.
[19:34] <mythguy> IndyGunFreak: No. I'll try that now.
[19:34] <KenBW22> can anyone explain why Empathy throws a "Network error" at me when Pidgin works fine?
[19:34] <athlan> hi,
[19:34] <subbu> logan_: can u go to the update manager and check if any more updates are available?
[19:35] <IndyGunFreak> sampo_, well how would you even know what youw ere looking for
[19:35] <wsch> i cant get grub to work
[19:35] <xlq> The new gdm now switches keyboard layouts! Perfect!
[19:35] <raven_> which distri/system easily builds up a performance-cluster?
[19:35] <wsch> i installed grub only on my ext4 ubuntu 9.10 partitiorn
[19:35] <sampo_> I tried for drivers
[19:35] <wsch> and i start grub with BCD (windows bootloader)
[19:35] <sampo_> wireless drivers
[19:35] <wsch> grub starts fine so taht part is working
[19:35] <athlan> is there a way to backup the ubuntu desktop profile somehow? Panels usw.
[19:35] <wsch> but it allmsot immediately gives me a CLI
[19:35] <logan__> subbu, nope, no new updates are available.
[19:35] <wsch> and no error
[19:35] <wsch> s
[19:36] <wsch> so what can be my problem?
[19:36] <IndyGunFreak> sampo_, http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/bcmwl-kernel-source
[19:36] <wsch> im here asking for the second day allready
[19:36] <wsch> so any help is MUCH appreciated
[19:36] <grawity> athlan: All of your personal settings and data are contained in your homedir -- /home/athlan, or something.
[19:36] <gnuskool> if i wanna dual, which OS goes on first?
[19:36] <G_A_C> raven_: there's a CentOS-based distro dedicated to building clusters called Rocks. I haven't seen anything similar for Ubuntu, apart from Eucalytpus which I think is a different thing altogether
[19:36] <subbu> logan__: looks really strange !
[19:36] <KenBW2> Is Pulseaudio still as buggy as it was in Hardy?
[19:36] <innomen> Seriously this is very time critical, please just say some video capture utulities you're aware of for ubuntu
[19:36] <grawity> athlan: Specifically, panel settings are in Gconf - ~/.gconf
[19:36] <logan__> innomen, what are you trying to capture?
[19:36] <innomen> logan__, audio and video, inverted
[19:37] <ctmjr> innomen, recordmydesktop
[19:37] <innomen> logan__, i had an app that will do it but i forgot the name
[19:37] <Stavros> innomen: from a camera or from the screen?
[19:37] <innomen> ctmjr, not it, thanks for trying
[19:37] <innomen> Stavros, webcam
[19:37] <athlan> grwity so just saving the home folder should be enough? I wanna upgrade to ubuntu 9.10
[19:37] <sampo_> ok...I wil try those...but need to reinstall 9.10 again...:(....hope it works...
[19:37] <logan__> innomen, for video, Cheese Webcam Booth has a few nice tricks up it's sleeve, but it doesn't do Audio, I think.
[19:37] <innomen> i keep thinking lucview or something like that, but i googled it and thats not it
[19:37] <IndyGunFreak> sampo_, try this before doing that
[19:37] <Sashi1> trism: i got a bit of a problem installing using brightside, when i want to run brightside I get "Daemon already running, exiting..." when I use "killall brightside" and start brightside again nothing happens...
[19:37] <sampo_> ok...what...
[19:37] <marcinkuzmisnki> hi all, anyone knows a good solution to disable xsplash (it just so anoying) i like to see what's going on during the boot
[19:38] <roy> ripps: this is what free -m says: http://pastebin.ca/1649621
[19:38] <innomen> logan__, cheese is worthless, thanks though, name off a few others?
[19:38] <sampo_> http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/bcmwl-kernel-source?
[19:38] <sd32> what does it mean when software "isnt available in the current data"?
[19:38] <trism> Sashi1: k, let me install and test it one sec
[19:38] <G_A_C> athlan: when I'm backing up to reformat, I tend to back up /etc /opt /usr/local and /home - that will get pretty much all personal data, and system config data (plus /opt and /usr/local for any of my self-compiled software)
[19:38] <IndyGunFreak> sampo_, boot the cd, and then make sure the cd, is part of the source list.. then open a terimnal, and type that command.. cuz i bet those files are on the CD
[19:38] <Digit0> anybody else having problems connecting to msn ?
[19:38] <innomen> i mean really anything that will do audio video capture will do.
[19:38] <K4nkr0> Yes
[19:38] <Stavros> innomen: http://www.smcc.demon.nl/camstream/ how about that?
[19:38] <logan__> innomen, VLC would work. :P
[19:38] <Stavros> oh, vlc might work, yeah
[19:38] <koki_> could someone please help me repair my grub2, it just loads and never shows menu, i have vista installed also
[19:38] <innomen> logan__, nope
[19:39] <ctmjr> !webcam | innomen
[19:39] <innomen> vlc wont invert the video
[19:39] <IndyGunFreak> Digit0, w/ what?.. I'm on it no problem w/ pidgin
[19:39] <sabitertan> hi there
[19:39] <innomen> ctmjr, yea i googled and i've been googling
[19:39] <nick125> Hm. I'm having athroughput problem with iwl3945. Anyone else having issues with throughput and iwl3945?
[19:39] <LiteHedded> looks like it's opening applications that's slow. not my graphics
[19:39] <Digit0> IndyGunFreak, using empathy
[19:39] <Stavros> koki_: grub-install?
[19:39] <LiteHedded> lags a little even with compiz effects disabled
[19:39] <sabitertan> ubuntu servers must be very busy
[19:39] <sabitertan> :)
[19:39] <fizzle> guys i get a (initramfs) prompt and a Target file system does not have /sbin/init error when booting the xubuntu power pc live cd.
[19:39] <Digit0> IndyGunFreak, but anyway I have tried amsn and emesene and no luck either
[19:39] <ripps> roy: very nice. next to no swap is being use, 371mb are being used to cache files that have been used and 713mb are still just sitting there being unused.
[19:39] <innomen> i want personal experiance suggestions, or an exhuastive list of video capture software
[19:39] <logan__> In the meantime, I still don't have any audio and my video IS inverted lawl! :D But not my normal desktop. It's frickin' hilarious.
[19:39] <IndyGunFreak> Digit0, empathy absolutely sucks... i'd switch to pidgin.
[19:39] <gnuskool> if i wanna dual, which OS goes on first?
[19:39] <koki_> Stavros: well this kid said i need to hold SHIFT while it loads
[19:39] <logan__> (not really all the funny)
[19:39] <Swindle> anyone get lm_sensors to install in karmic?
[19:39] <sabitertan> i didnt get ppa keys
[19:39] <Stavros> koki_: you can't boot at all?
[19:39] <JonathanEllis> How do I stop partitions on a usb disk mounting automatically? I unmount them but they remount automatically while I am trying to resize them in gparted so it fails. Its very annoying
[19:39] <sampo_> I entered 9.10 cd, what command to enter...I am running on 9.04 now
[19:39] <koki_> stavros let me try this ill be back
[19:40] <athlan> G_A_C what oubt firefox congfiguration and evolution, and tomboy notes? Are they covered too?
[19:40] <IndyGunFreak> Digit0, empathyis about the worst idea team ubuntu has come up w/... and its not ready...
[19:40] <koki_> Stavros:  i can boot, but all it does it just shows Loading Grub. and it goes away
[19:40] <G_A_C> athlan: they're all in hidden folders inside your /home/athlan folder so yes :)
[19:40] <IndyGunFreak> sampo_, http://jetpackweb.com/blog/2009/10/29/ubuntu-9-10-karmic-koala-and-broadcom-bcm4312/
[19:40] <Stavros> koki_: hmm
[19:40] <ctmjr> gnuskool, dual boot what
[19:40] <koki_> strav let me try
[19:40] <IndyGunFreak> the first one for "no wireless"
[19:40] <gnuskool> karmic win7
[19:40] <Stavros> koki_: get a livecd and install grub again
[19:40] <Stavros> ok
[19:40] <koki_> Stavros: let me try this first brb ok
[19:40] <innomen> this is incomprehensible
[19:40] <sbt> hi, I just installed koala. I have a lenovo x200 laptop with an intel wireless link 5300. the connection starts to go extremely slow after about 15 - 30 minutes after boot. reboot fixes the problem. is this a known bug?
[19:40] <gnuskool> ctmjr: karmic, win7
[19:40] <koki_> Stavros:  let me try this first brb
[19:40] <raven_> is there a minimal-system which provides networkboot for machines they cannot run it directyl but to start from cd/usbhdd...?
[19:40] <ctmjr> gnuskool, win7 first
[19:40] <Digit0> IndyGunFreak, well, if the video / audio call really works, it would be better for me
[19:40] <innomen> am i seriously the only person to have ever wanted to record video and audio form a computer?
[19:41] <logan__> No, but inverted is interesting :P
[19:41] <gnuskool> ctmjr: thx
[19:41] <trism> Sashi1: after installing it, all I had to do was invoke brightside-properties and I could configure the desktop switching, and it just worked
[19:41] <ERNANDES> certo
[19:41] <IndyGunFreak> Digit0, yeah, i alwyas forget pidgins issues w/ that, cuz i don't use them.
[19:41] <zilt0id> hey guys a question, i cant get any centre channel or lfe in karmic with my xfi card
[19:41] <zilt0id> any suggestions
[19:41] <roy> ripps: So, what do you suggest - if using hybernation and memory-intensive tasks? 2GB swap and just "/" ?
[19:41] <innomen> what in the world good would a silent video be? what am i charlie chaplin?
[19:41] <sampo_> if I try that command, it will connect to the net...do I want that?
[19:41] <Stavros> innomen: what do you mean invert the video?
[19:41] <IndyGunFreak> sampo_, have you read that link at all?
[19:41] <Take0n> should I upgrade to 9.10 yet or stay with 9.04 for a while?
[19:41] <logan__> Thought, innomen, record with VLC, then use a secondary program... like that KDE thing, forgot what it was called, to invert it?
[19:41] <Sashi1> trism: thank you didn't knew that ;)
[19:41] <Take0n> I don't want problems with sound network etc..
[19:42] <sampo_> noops
[19:42] <innomen> Stavros, the camera is mounting on my ceiling the video neds ot be inverted to make sense
[19:42] <IndyGunFreak> sampo_, then quit asking questions till you read links people give you
[19:42] <Scunizi> innomen: www.getdeb.net  .. look for LiVeS!
[19:42] <Stavros> innomen: just postprocess it
[19:42] <wsch> jesus this is getting tiring
[19:42] <sampo_> ok...sorry
[19:42] <Swindle> the only prob with 9.1 i have is cant get lm_sensors to work
[19:42] <Take0n> sampo_, na mino me 04 e? :P
[19:42] <sampo_> I got it
[19:42] <TheCheeze> can anyone help figure out why my 3rd party apps like x-chat and pidgin will not launch firefox?
[19:42] <ripps> roy: sounds good, but it's your choice. Just make sure you have enough swap for hibernation (also take into account the possibility of upgrading your ram)
[19:42] <wsch> anyone thats into grub, please?
[19:42] <sampo_> den ksero
[19:42] <innomen> Stavros, must be real time, its a security camera
[19:42] <sampo_> 9.10 einai kalytero
[19:42] <TheCheeze> started when i upgraded to karmic. was using firefox 3.5.3 on jaunty too
[19:42] <ripps> wsch: what's the problem?
[19:42] <Stavros> innomen: hmm
[19:42] <innomen> i had the app installed i just upgraded and it vanished and i dont recall the name
[19:43] <sampo_> apla dokimazo kati me thn wifi carta mou, den paizei sto 9.10...me boithisane edo
[19:43] <sampo_> thank
[19:43] <innomen> all i need is a good long list
[19:43] <roy> ripps: All 2 slots in my 946 motherboard cooupied, so no RAM upgrade... at least on this pc.
[19:43] <athlan> G_A_C is there a quick way to copy them all into one directory?
[19:43] <innomen> but apprently there arent any to pupulate sucha  list judging form the foorums this channel and google and wiki
[19:43] <karname> Hi , how can me add group nobody ?
[19:43] <bigjocker> karname, it should be there by default
[19:43] <innomen> i tried putting "video capture" into source forge and that was a laugh riot
[19:43] <wsch> ripps, installed 9.10 RC, and grub only to the partition, not the MBR of my disk
[19:44] <ripps> roy: okay, good luck than
[19:44] <wsch> ripps, i use BCD to start grub
[19:44] <phix_> hey guys, I have a question about Grub 2: if I recently installed Windows 7, which wiped out my GRUB bootloader, is it possible to install GRUB 2 so that it sees my Ubuntu 9.04 and Win7 partitions? (and then upgrade to 9.10)?
[19:44] <wsch> ripps, grub starts fine, however it allmost immediately gives me a CLI
[19:44] <wsch> ripps, and no errors that im fast enough to read
[19:44] <innomen> checking out lives now
[19:44] <sampo_> by the way, when I installed 9.10, I had a couple of bad sectors...should I be worried of my HDD?It says I should change my HDD...
[19:44] <fx> guys, i really need help, I need to remove a LUKS key and reboot, so it doesnt ask for my password on boot
[19:44] <ejv> I would be worried, yes
[19:44] <JonathanEllis> sbt: I have a similar problem on a Dell Latitude C610 running either Hardy or Jaunty. I havent been able to find a solution yet
[19:45] <Scunizi> innomen: recordmydesktop .. "motion" .. Ubuntu Security Notice Monitor
[19:45] <ctmjr> innomen, here knock yourself out http://linuxappfinder.com/multimedia/videocapture
[19:45] <Gopher1> It wont let me upgrade to 9.10 in update manager cause it says it cant connect to the internet, but clearly I can.  Anyone know what wrong?
[19:45] <xlq> Gopher1: I got that. I think it's because the servers are being hammered.
[19:45] <Scunizi> innomen: http://www.google.com/linux?hl=en&q=ubuntu+security+camera+recording&btnG=Search
[19:45] <roy> ripps: I have a c2d 1.86GHz cpu and a GTS250 1GB card. But it seems photoshop cs4 needs WAY faster stuff for 3rd party stuff like vertus fluid mask etc. So probably will get a brand new one sometime... though not quite soon.
[19:45] <innomen> Scunizi, wont invert, i need ot see the output and i'll look into it
[19:45] <jimcooncat> karname: sudo addgroup nobody
[19:46] <nick125> innomen: You might want ot look into zoneminder too.
[19:46] <Gopher1> xiq: So basically just chillax and let it work itself out?
[19:46] <ejv> they make c2d at 1.86ghz?
[19:46] <qs> hello, i've upgraded to karmic and i'm having a variety of problems with pulseaudio, perhaps someone can help?
[19:46] <ripps> wsch: hrmm... sound outside my field of expertise... All I can suggest is booting a livecd and trying to reinstall grub...
[19:46] <yotam> Hi guys. I have just installed ubuntu koala om my machine. I think that my graphic card, intel g45 is givving me some problems. The computer went to sleep mode and won't start again. Also, I can't run vlc, presumable for the same reason.
[19:46] <logan1> Got dc'd
[19:46] <TheCheeze> can anyone help figure out why my 3rd party apps like x-chat and pidgin will not launch firefox since my karmic upgrade?
[19:46] <logan1> Am logan__ from just now.
[19:46] <nick125> ejv: probably low-power
[19:46] <ejv> nick125: cool beans :)
[19:46] <qs> my old setup: a laptop with intrepid and a server running jaunty
[19:46] <innomen> Scunizi: must be 64 bit
[19:47] <qs> all audio was passed to the jaunty server to be played out through the speakers
[19:47] <roy> See you guys.
[19:47] <rumpel2> qs, specify your problems
[19:47] <wsch> ripps, how? i need to make very sure its not installed to my MBR
[19:47] <Scunizi> innomen: won't they work with the 32 bit libs installed?
[19:47] <innomen> ctmjr, thats a great start, its not on that list, i wish i had any idea how rare that app was, it had a very professional looking page and the application was top notche, tons of options clean interface
[19:47] <aibo> hi, upgraded to karmik koala, and mysql won't start, nothing in logs :(
[19:47] <qs> rumpel2, everything used to be fine, but now whenever i try to play audio, pulseaudio crashes
[19:47] <raven_> is there a minimal-system which provides networkboot for machines they cannot run it directyl but to start from cd/usbhdd...?
[19:47] <edoceo-fluorine> My upgrade to Karmic from Jaunty had xfce install gnome powermanager - now I have two power managers :(
[19:47] <ripps> wsch: ? grub can only work from the mbr... I don't understand how it can work without it.
[19:47] <TNA5000> adac: grawity: The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[19:47] <TNA5000>   tor: Depends: libevent1 (>= 1.3e) but it is not installable
[19:47] <Tetracomm> Hello.
[19:47] <qs> it doesnt seem to be every time i play audio
[19:47] <logan1> So, does anyone have any ideas on what I can do to fix my: 1) Lack of audio. 2) Strangely colored video (as if a color channel was turned off) 3) My huge taskbar 4) lack of scrolling between desktops?
[19:48] <qs> definitely when i use audio from firefox/flash
[19:48] <innomen> Scunizi, getdeb only has i386 of lives
[19:48] <aibo> btw, one more question, which package contains /etc/init.d/mysql ?
[19:48] <Tetracomm> Is there any way to test my parallel port in Ubuntu?
[19:48] <wsch> ripps, i have had it like this before, only on a partirion
[19:48] <wsch> partition
[19:48] <qs> other times at random it seems
[19:48] <rumpel2> qs, i myself have removed pulseaudio and use plain alsadaudio... runs finde, except i have to use the alsamixer in console instead of the applet
[19:48] <xlq> aibo: dpkg -S /etc/initpd/mysql
[19:48] <xlq> aibo: dpkg -S /etc/init.d/mysql
[19:48] <innomen> apprently i dreramed this application
[19:48] <th1> logan1, try creating a new user and log in as him and see if that fixes 2) 3) and 4)
[19:48] <logan1> th1, k.
[19:48] <qs> also whenever i play audio, local pulseaudio uses 99% CPU
[19:48] <ripps> wsch: grub installs it's config files to a partition, but ultimately it installs a hook in your mbr to load the files from the partition
[19:48] <nick125> logan1: Does your video appear blue-ish?
[19:49] <aibo> xlq: thx, I see it's mysql-server-5.1, but I've reinstalled it twice, still no /etc/init.d/mysql file :(
[19:49] <haven489> hey all
[19:49] <rumpel2> qs, try removing pulseaudio... apt-get remove pulseaudio
[19:49] <logan1> nick125, yes, it does. As if a color channel is missing.
[19:49] <th1> qs, don't remove pulseaudio just yet
[19:49] <qs> rumpel2, my setup involves sending audio over the network so sources from different machines get mixed together - for that i do need pulseaudio
[19:49] <TheCheeze> can anyone help figure out why my 3rd party apps like x-chat and pidgin will not launch firefox since my karmic upgrade?
[19:49] <Scunizi> logan1: on what piece of software?  most have an adjustment for color..
[19:49] <rumpel2> qs, bummer :/
[19:49] <wsch> ripps, well it didnt install anything to my MBR and yet it starts, gives me a CLI
[19:49] <qs> it was working fine til i upgraded the laptop to karmic...
[19:49] <haven489> I am trying to upgrade to Ubuntu 9.10 and is stays it cannot read release notes any Answers there?
[19:49] <logan1> Scunizi, Totem. It was working fine before I updated from 9.04 to 9.10
[19:49] <ripps> wsch: than that means it installed to your mbr
[19:49] <xlq> I've just downloaded an Ubuntu ISO, but there's an md5sum mismatch. Is there an rsync server I can use to fix the download?
[19:49] <wsch> ripps, ok i just went to ask in #grub
[19:50] <wsch> ripps, its NOT impossible to have grub NOT on MBR
[19:50] <adac> TNA5000, Well it seems that thaqt package is no longer available in karmic. I guess you have to wait until the new version of tor for karmic comes out then.
[19:50] <boscop> why does ubuntu show the black screen after 1 minute idle?
[19:50] <boscop> I set it to 10 min
[19:50] <wsch> ripps, its just RECOMMENDED to have grub on MBR
[19:50] <aibo> xlq: fixed with purge && reinstall
[19:50] <xlq> ooh, there is!
[19:50] <wsch> please everyone READ THAT
[19:50] <chasedawg> I'm having a problem with my sound. Can someone help me?
[19:50] <Royall> Okay so I'm getting an Errno 30: Read-only hard disk or something when I try to install 9.10 on my laptop
[19:50] <th1> qs pulseaudi may need reconfiguring if you have a complex setup its changed a bit.. but still only works for some people :/
[19:50] <wsch> because everyone keeps teling me grub needs MBR
[19:50] <wsch> and its untrue
[19:50] <jamil_1> Sound is only coming only from the headphone jack not from the speakers
[19:50] <Kate> Hmm
[19:50] <nick125> logan1: Hmm.I have the same issue...I havent't found the fix yet, though.
[19:50] <xlq> jamil_1: right-click on the volume icon in the top-right corner, Sound Preferences
[19:51] <duffydack> !usb
[19:51] <Scunizi> logan1: I've had the same issue with my version on 8.04 & 8.10.. ended up just using the built in color adjustments to set it correctly.. or vlc :)
[19:51] <ripps> wsch: true, it can be chainloaded from another bootloader, but something needs to be in the mbr that tells the bios what to boot
[19:51] <xlq> jamil_1: you can choose the connector in the "Output" tab
[19:51] <haven489> All: i am trying to upgrade to ubuntu 9.10 and it says it cannot read the release notes does anyone have an answer to that????
[19:51] <yancho> any one can please help me get firefox to see my plugins please? i am on firefox 3.5.4 and the guys from #firefox told me to speak with you guys due to problem with path
[19:51] <Royall> does anyone know how to fix that? "Errno: 30 Read-only hard disk" on install
[19:51] <wsch> ripps, yes BCD is on my MBR like i said
[19:51] <qs> th1, i have tried the various configuration applets etc but haven't got anywhere with them - any recommendations of where to go from here?
[19:51] <lstarnes> haven489: how are you upgrading?
[19:51] <wsch> ripps, also BCD boots grub fine
[19:51] <wsch> ripps, then grub gives me its CLI allmost instantly
[19:52] <xlq> haven489: make sure you're using a mirror that's working and up-to-date. Also, wait a bit and try again. I had the problem yesterday. I suspect it's caused by everyone trying to upgrade at once
[19:52] <haven489> Istarnes: in the update manager
[19:52] <th1> qs, you say you are streaming audio over hte net?
[19:52] <qs> hmm, pulseaudio is now using 98% cpu again, even though i'm not playing audio
[19:52] <IndyGunFreak> yancho, are you using 64it?
[19:52] <wsch> if theres a error (i dunno) i cant read it or anything since its so insanely fast
[19:52] <qs> th1, local network, yes
[19:52] <IndyGunFreak> *bit
[19:52] <logan1> Scunizi, But I don't want to use an alternate fix to fix it, I want it to be fixed :P This is a terrible upgrade. :D
[19:52] <yancho> yes IndyGunFreak
[19:52] <ubuntu_mad> hello,Update manager wont launch on Karmic terminal gives this http://pastebin.com/m55500963
[19:52] <th1> qs, you have same pulseaudio version on both ends?
[19:52] <IndyGunFreak> ..
[19:52] <lstarnes> haven489: I'm not sure what would be causing that
[19:52] <IndyGunFreak> !flash64
[19:52] <Fleet> Just installed Karmic Koala and my USB storage devices aren't being picked up; any chance of some help?
[19:52] <demonspork> Hello, I just installed 9.10 and I messed up the GRUB install.  The Grub directory exists, but I can't get grub to find /boot/grub/stage1 from the livecd
[19:52] <jamil_1> xlq: I have tried that but of no use ...
[19:52] <mMezquitale> yancho, so you want to downgrade to firefox 3.5.3?
[19:52] <lstarnes> haven489: try doing it again later.  it may be a temporary issue
[19:52] <ripps> wsch: I'm not familiar with BCD or how it might interfere with grub, so better to ask somebody else
[19:52] <qs> th1, no but i don't think i had the same version previously
[19:53] <th1> qs, but the newer version in karmic might well be incompatible with the other end
[19:53] <happyface> How can I enable mic boost in 9.10? (looks like a new audio control panel)
[19:53] <qs> th1, hmm that's true
[19:53] <haven489> Istarness: ok i will wait, but i am probably just going to DL an ISO burn it and then upgrade with that.
[19:53] <Fleet> Just installed Karmic Koala and my USB storage devices aren't being picked up; any chance of some help?
[19:53] <yancho> mMezquitale,  anything goes - aslong as i see flash videos heh
[19:53] <KaiL> are there some very serious issues between 9.10 and intel 855 graphics known?
[19:53] <wsch> ripps, sure thanx for trying anyway
[19:53] <lstarnes> haven489: use the alternate iso if you want an in-place upgrade
[19:53] <qs> th1, though, it's not every case that causes problems - some are fine
[19:54] <haven489> Istarnes: ok
[19:54] <th1> qs, I'd still try with streaming to another instance of the same version and see if it helps
[19:54] <mMezquitale> yancho, so what youre trying to do is to see flash videos with firefox using ubuntu?
[19:54] <qs> th1, i've tried playing from spotify (wine/alsa plugin) and it's fine; totem is fine; anything with firefox/flash just crashes pulseaudio on the other end
[19:54] <koki_> stavros where you at
[19:54] <nick125> logan1: What graphics drivers are you using?
[19:54] <th1> qs, they probably use some features that the remote end doesn't support
[19:54] <solman0> hello :)
[19:54] <th1> qs, I'd try with the same verison on the other end
[19:54] <mMezquitale> !ask | solman0
[19:54] <qs> th1, ok, what's the best way of going about that? are there packages for jaunty for 0.9.19?
[19:54] <nick125> logan1: nvidia?
[19:54] <qs> th1, or packages for karmic for 0.9.14?
[19:55] <binod> i want ubuntu DVD since mine computer has problem in reading CD. how can i get  free DVD? where can order its DVD who does free shipping?
[19:55] <weary> where did unionfs go with karmic?
[19:55] <happyface> How can I enable mic boost in 9.10? (looks like a new audio control panel)
[19:55] <yancho> mMezquitale,  have flash and java .. coz there are no plugins at the moment
[19:55] <rohan_> the ubuntu 9.10 iso are the new hybrid ISOs which can just be dd "dumped" on a usb stick to make liveusb?
[19:55] <th1> qs, I don't think so.. definitely not the 2nd one because karmic uses features that aren't in the old pulseaudio
[19:55] <Royall> DISK HAS MANY BAD SECTORS <- does this mean I have to replace the HDD itself? Is there a way to fix this?
[19:55] <th1> I would boot the other end from a USB stick or liveCD just to see if it works. if it does it might be worth trying to backport it (could be fairly easy)
[19:55] <paulus68> is there a specific channel for virtualbox?
[19:55] <lstarnes> paulus68: maybe #vbox
[19:55] <th1> unless you can upgrade the other one to karmic that is
[19:55] <rohan_> binod: you can't get free DVD anywhere
[19:56] <rohan_> paulus68: yes, #vbox
[19:56] <strywgr> binod : https://shipit.ubuntu.com/ try this page.
[19:56] <Scunizi> paulus68: #vbox.. but what's your question?
[19:56] <mMezquitale> yancho, I am not following, do you have flash and java, yes or not, what is the issue you are having with firefox under ubuntu?
[19:56] <Matisse> hi
[19:56] <phix_> could someone help me with reinstalling the bootloader? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8199070#post8199070 Thanks!
[19:56] <yancho> mMezquitale,   the problem is that all the .so are in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/ but firefox is finding no plugins
[19:56] <xlq> Just downloaded karmic-desktop-i386.iso, and its md5sum is different to that of the UbuntuHashes page. Tried using rsync, and rsync thinks it's up-to-date. I assume the image has changed. How can I get an up-to-date md5sum?
[19:56] <Matisse> I'm logged in a computer via ssh. How do I see if the upgrade to Karmic is finished?
[19:57] <binod> strywgr: there is only for CD
[19:57] <Jordan_U_> wsch: !grub | phix ( these instructions work with grub legacy and grub2 )
[19:57] <Jeruvy> Royall: depends, but probably.  Run smartmontools and do a test
[19:57] <Jordan_U_> !grub | phix ( these instructions work with grub legacy and grub2 )
[19:57] <N3M35I5> hey guys
[19:57] <binod> rohan_: oh i see
[19:57] <solman0> how do you install sh.file
[19:57] <paulus68> Scunizi: the question is as follows I have a server running ubuntu and I want to be able to reinstall my server first virtually with 2 or 3 other virtual pcs which i want to connect to the server is this possible
[19:57] <th1> Matisse, assuming the upgrade is running in a desktop session it's really hard unless you have remote desktop enabled.
[19:57] <n8tuser> Matisse-> use ps -aux
[19:57] <losha> Royall: it's a bad sign. By the time you see this, the disk has already tried (and failed) to worl around the bad sectors by reallocating them. Do you have any valuable data on the disk? If so, back it up now///
[19:57] <logan1> Right, making a new user only gives me more problems, nick125
[19:57] <Psinetic> i connected my laptop to the second NIC port on my desktop (the desktop is what i'm on now). how do i remote desktop to it?
[19:57] <yancho> mMezquitale,  the problem is that i have firefox 3.5.4 even though i downloaded from ubuntu's rep
[19:57] <Jordan_U_> solman0: What are you trying to install? There is probably a better way.
[19:57] <wsch> Jordan_U_, thanx
[19:58] <N3M35I5> iv upgraded from 8 to 9, and now i keep getting a stupid popping noise via my speakers i dont get with xp and 8. only on 9.10. any suggestions? thanks
[19:58] <n8tuser> Psinetic-> both ends must have an ip address first
[19:58] <yotam> Hi guys. I have just installed ubuntu koala om my machine. I think that my graphic card, intel g45 is givving me some problems. The computer went to sleep mode and won't start again. Also, I can't run vlc, presumable for the same reason.
[19:58] <Matisse> th1, I started the upgrade not via ssh, so would X-Forward still help me?
[19:58] <logan1> 9.10 is giving me giant grief. I just want to watch my movies and tv-shows damnit :P
[19:58] <Scunizi> paulus68: I just found this link that might help.. for headless running http://www.howtoforge.com/vboxheadless-running-virtual-machines-with-virtualbox-3.0-on-a-headless-ubuntu-9.04-server
[19:58] <Psinetic> n8tuser: uh....how do i put an ip to the laptop? 0.0
[19:58] <n8tuser> Matisse-> all process have an entry, so ps aux and parse the results
[19:59] <th1> Matic`Makovec, the only way it could help you is to let you enable remote desktop ;)
[19:59] <yotam> logan1, what is your graphic card? I don't think I can help you but I want to know if we have the same problem
[19:59] <losha> logan1: so boot 8.04 instead...
[19:59] <N3M35I5> iv upgraded from 8 to 9, and now i keep getting a stupid popping noise via my speakers i dont get with xp and 8. only on 9.10. any suggestions? thanks
[19:59] <paulus68> Scunizi: thanks
[19:59] <mMezquitale> Matisse, lsb_release -a
[19:59] <th1> Matisse, that was for you not Matic`Makovec sorry tabbing error
[19:59] <Jordan_U_> wsch: I actually didn't mean the !grub for you, it's only the re-installing after windows that is applicable to grub2
[19:59] <aibo> i can't start mysqld after karmik upgrade!
[19:59] <Scunizi> paulus68: np :)
[19:59] <zilt0id> anyone here use an xfi card in karmic
[19:59] <n8tuser> Psinetic-> you have to manually do it or if your other host has to serve dhcp on that port your laptop is connected to
[19:59] <logan1> yotam, I have an NVidia 9600 GSO.
[19:59] <nick125> logan1: If you have a nvidia card, start playing a file and open the nvidia-settings dialog (System->Admin->Nvidia X Settings)
[19:59] <xlq> N3M35I5: it sounds like PulseAudio going wrong.
[19:59] <paulus68> n8tuser: hi how are you
[19:59] <rumpel2> N3M35I5, can you record the noise and put it somewhere online to listen?
[19:59] <solman0> program that works through For Java 2
[19:59] <logan1> losha, Erm... that may be a problem :P Custom menu.lst and NO idea how to get to an old kernel. I also think the update manager REMOVED the old kernels.
[19:59] <n8tuser> paulus68-> am okay
[20:00] <mMezquitale> yancho, try uninstalling firefox using synaptic and purge the software then reinstall it again
[20:00] <Matisse> mMezquitale, sais it is karmic :)
[20:00] <N3M35I5> rumpel2, its like the noise when you first turn your speakers, a slight pop
[20:00] <dust_t> Hi I just updated to 9.10 Right now my theme still looks like the one i was using in 9.04. Is it possible for me to get the latest default theme without loosing my custom panel buttons?
[20:00] <yancho> mMezquitale,  sudo apt-get autoremove purge firefox-3.5 right?
[20:00] <Jordan_U_> wsch: For your problem, when you run "echo $prefix" and "ls -l" from the command prompt grub gives you what does it output?
[20:00] <paulus68> n8tuser: glad to hear that
[20:00] <logan1> What the hell, nick125, that fixed the colors.
[20:00] <wsch> Jordan_U_, it can actually be usefull for me aswell :D
[20:00] <mMezquitale> Matisse, congrats!
[20:00] <mage__> dust_t: change theme like you would normally
[20:00] <yotam> logan1, Sorry, can't help you. not even the same card
[20:00] <wsch> Jordan_U_, theres no ls in my grub CLI
[20:00] <logan1> yotam, No worries.
[20:01] <epinky> Psinetic: use ifconfig
[20:01] <wsch> Jordan_U_, but i need to go for a moment, somone in ##linux is gonna take a look at it when i get back
[20:01] <logan1> nick125, But then when I close it and start the media file again, colors flip back to fail.
[20:01] <Scunizi> yancho: not sure what the issue is with FF but if you did the upgrade you might have some plugins that are causing you problems.. rename the .mozilla directory in your /home and then restart/start FF and see if it works then
[20:01] <wsch> gonna pastebin it all
[20:01] <KaiL> EXA support got dropped from the intel driver and UXA is still not usable for some chipsets?
[20:01] <dust_t> mage__, How can I know what is the default theme in 9.10 ?
[20:01] <losha> logan1: downgrading isn't supported anyway. You'd have to do a from-scratch install of 8.04 from a live cd....
[20:01] <Matisse> th1, what do I do then with the remote desktop? I wont see the things which happen in the desktop session, right?
[20:01] <Psinetic> epinky, i did ifconfig, and no ip address is shown on the lappy :(
[20:01] <mage__> dust_t: theres one way
[20:01] <solman0> how do I extract .sh file?
[20:01] <mMezquitale> yancho, "sudo apt-get remove firefox" and then "sudo apt-get --purge autoremove" and "sudo apt-get clean"
[20:01] <nick125> logan1: It looks like you're getting hit by a nvidia graphics bug: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-180/+bug/395476
[20:01] <logan1> losha, Yeah, that's... so not happening.
[20:01] <mage__> Hey guys whats the default theme in 9.10? dust_t wants to know!
[20:01] <Jordan_U_> KaiL: Which chipsets is it not usable for?
[20:01] <epinky> Psinetic: ifconfig -a ?
[20:01] <KaiL> Jordan_U_, intel 855
[20:02] <losha> logan1: :-). Have fun with 9.10 then....
[20:02] <mMezquitale> yancho, you can use synaptic to remove the software though, i highly recommend you use synaptic to remove firefox
[20:02] <Scunizi> mMezquitale: that won't remove the users configuration files found in /home..
[20:02] <KaiL> X-Server hangs at random times; very typical for the old UXA issues
[20:02] <logan1> losha, Thanks for being wonderfully pointlessly mean.
[20:02] <Royall> !torrents
[20:02] <mMezquitale> Scunizi, can you please show us how to do that?
[20:02] <Matisse> mMezquitale, does lsb_release ... karmic mean than I can safely shutdown the computer via ssh, assuming the upgrade has finished?
[20:02] <logan1> nick125, Any knowledge on a fix?
[20:02] <phix_> what's better for a root partition: reiserfs or ext4?
[20:02] <N3M35I5> iv upgraded from 8 to 9, and now i keep getting a stupid popping noise via my speakers i dont get with xp and 8. only on 9.10. any suggestions? thanks. the popping noise is like the slight pop you get when you turn your speakers on
[20:02] <subbu> logan1: i am not really able to figure what has gone wrong with ur upgrade !
[20:03] <n8tuser> Matisse-> all process have an entry, so ps aux and parse the results  <-- will tell you if it is done
[20:03] <Jordan_U_> Matisse: No
[20:03] <Wildbat> WOW OH! 9.10~!
[20:03] <mMezquitale> Matisse, it means that the machine has karmic installed.
[20:03] <Psinetic> epinky: http://pastebin.com/d409140ba
[20:03] <mage__> phixxor: thats a ymmv question
[20:03] <Scunizi> mMezquitale: there's a hidden .mozilla directory in /home that can be renamed.. once renamed FF won't see it.  Use nautilus and hit ctrl+h to reveal the hidden directories and look for one starting with .mozilla
[20:03] <phixxor> mage__: ymmv?
[20:03] <phixxor> oh
[20:03] <mage__> !ymmv
[20:03] <losha> logan1: I dispute that. There's very much a point to my meanness. 9.10 isn't suitable for beginners or people who 'just want it to work'. It's one day out of beta and your expectations were unrealistic...
[20:04] <Jordan_U_> Matisse: If "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" shows nothing to upgrade then the upgrade is finished
[20:04] <nick125> logan1: It looks like you can fix apps that use gstreamer (totem, etc) by running gstreamer-properties and setting a noine-zero hue.
[20:04] <Scunizi> mMezquitale: if FF is open when you rename the directory you'll have to restart it for the change to take effect.. it will recreate the directory with default items.
[20:04] <mMezquitale> yancho, look at Scunizi 's post, you can try renaming ".mozilla" under your "/home" directory
[20:04] <nick125> *non-zero
[20:04] <epinky> Psinetic: What about eth0? I mean you want to configure eth1 onl,  don't you?
[20:04] <yotam> Hi all. My system video card fills wrong. The system doesn't response smoothly. I think the intel driver is wrong. Any ideas? thanks
[20:04] <solman0> Trying to install from desktop can anyone help thinkorswim_other_installer.sh
[20:04] <yancho> mMezquitale,  im removing everything including the .mozilla directory and starting rom fresh
[20:04] <logan1> losha, I had no idea, my box said "Upgrade". I can't be expected to be constantly up to date and I had no more expectations than "getting an upgrade".
[20:04] <Jordan_U_> Matisse: The package that controlls the output from lsb_release is upgraded very early in the upgrade process
[20:04] <dust_t> mMezquitale, is there a firefox profile issue?
[20:05] <logan1> nick125, Testing that now.
[20:05] <phixxor> mage__: ok. I heard a long time ago that ext3 was better for /home because it was more stable/accessible, and reiserfs was generally better/faster for root partitions. If that's not true, or if it's different for each person, I'd like to know!
[20:05] <Matisse> Jordan_U_, says its still locked...
[20:05] <Scunizi> yancho: you don't have to remove it .. just rename it someting like .mozilla.backup
[20:05] <Psinetic> epinky: eth0 is my desktop, which is connected directly to the internet. i have two ports on my NIC to use, so i plugged the other up to the other port, eth1.
[20:05] <N3M35I5> iv upgraded from 8 to 9, and now i keep getting a stupid popping noise via my speakers i dont get with xp and 8. only on 9.10. any suggestions? thanks. the popping noise is like the slight pop you get when you turn your speakers on
[20:05] <yancho> too late Scunizi :(
[20:05] <athlan>  how do i copy multiple directories using cp?
[20:05] <datacrusher> what they mean saying that 9.10 will break?
[20:05] <Scunizi> yancho: oh well.. won't really matter.
[20:05] <mMezquitale> dust_t, yancho is having issues with firefox, he says he installed 5.3.4 but something is not working correctly
[20:06] <losha> logan1: I fully agree with you. If this were a product sold on tv, it would probably be considered of unmerchantable quality....
[20:06] <dust_t> athlan, i think you can specify multiple dirs within {dir1,dir2}
[20:06] <Matisse> n8tuser, http://paste.ubuntu.com/305335/
[20:06] <JoeSomebody> hi, I just got 9.10, have 3 windows boxes, i read docs about setting up samba (looks like i need better docs) last month, networking , for me , was impossible, who is an expert in this area and can help me? havent installed yet, waiting on whoever :)
[20:06] <zenlunatic> phixxor: ext3 is proven
[20:06] <Steve1972> Hello. I'm working on installing 9.10. Did GPT get compiled into the kernel by default? We're havingproblems getting 9.10 to boot.
[20:06] <sharp1> how to install glibc ? I am getting following error : checking for as... as checking version of as... 2.20, bad
[20:06] <epinky> Psinetic: and you want to configure ip, right?
[20:06] <Matisse> n8tuser, thats the ps aux output
[20:06] <logan1> nick125, grande. Now video won't play anymore at all. :D
[20:06] <mMezquitale> N3M35I5, do you hear that noise when you first boot up?
[20:06] <techryan> Is there an alternate easy way to download the 9.10 update since apparently the servers are busy and the update manager is freaking out about release notes
[20:07] <N3M35I5> only when ubuntu loads
[20:07] <Steve1972> We have 6tb arrays we're trying to use as boot partition.
[20:07] <zenlunatic> phixxor: i wouldn't rely on ext4 for "production" stuff
[20:07] <subbu> logan1 what exactly did yo do
[20:07] <xlq> Any application to burn an ISO image to a CD? K3b depends on pretty much the whole of KDE, and Brasero doesn't let me choose the burning mode (TAO/DAO/SAO), so if there are no others I shall have to use wodim
[20:07] <Psinetic> epinky: i just want to be able to remote desktop it. :P but an ip would be nice :D
[20:07] <athlan> dust_t hows the correct syntax then?
[20:07] <Jordan_U> sharp1: What are you trying to install? There is probably a better way to get it than compiling it yourself
[20:07] <seth83> is anyone else having a problem with elasticfox and UEC?
[20:07] <zenlunatic> xlq: dd
[20:07] <nick125> logan1: Well...that's progress....just not in the direction we want
[20:07] <phixxor> zenlunatic: true. It's really really stable. I'm not even talking about ext4. But is reiserfs better than ext3 performance wise?
[20:07] <xlq> zenlunatic: you can't dd to a cd
[20:07] <mage__> haha
[20:07] <zenlunatic> phixxor: for what?
[20:07] <logan1> nick125, Wait, no, fixed it. Forgot the autosync command thingy.
[20:07] <athlan> dust_t aah i see
[20:07] <seth83> I am unable to connect to my UEC cluster with Elasticfox. I've reinstalled twice and tried the 1.06 version as well
[20:08] <logan1> nick125, *autovideosink
[20:08] <Jordan_U> !burning | xlq
[20:08] <sharp1> Jordan_U, I am trying to install glibc, iproute2
[20:08] <Steve1972> phixxor: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ext4_benchmarks&num=6
[20:08] <logan1> nick125, on the bright side, that fixed my colors.
[20:08] <subbu> logan1: glad to hear that
[20:08] <phixxor> zenlunatic: for the rootfilesystem
[20:08] <mage__> phixxor: some people have great performance with reiserfs and some people have to run out of a burning building with it
[20:08] <xlq> O_o wow Jordan_U, lots of choice there!
[20:08] <dust_t> athlan, if you had a,b,c as the dirs this command will work cp -a {a,b} c
[20:08] <solman0> anyone know ow to extract .sh fles
[20:08] <phixxor> hahaha :)
[20:08] <phixxor> Steve1972: thanks
[20:08] <InitMass> projectm - the visualizer doesn't seems to "hear" the sound. at least its not i rhythm
[20:08] <nick125> logan1: rename ~/.gstreamer* to something else, like ~/.gstreamer-backup and see if that gets the video playing
[20:08] <xlq> yes, and some people can't use reiserfs for more than a few months without murdering their wife
[20:08] <logan1> losha, Well, it should have had a warning label on it, something, anything.
[20:08] <N3M35I5> iv upgraded from 8 to 9, and now i keep getting a stupid popping noise via my speakers i dont get with xp and 8. only on 9.10. any suggestions? thanks. the popping noise is like the slight pop you get when you turn your speakers on
[20:08] <seth83> Is there a different channel I should be asking UEC related questions in?
[20:08] <zenlunatic> xlq: cdrecord
[20:09] <dust_t> solman0, You can usually view them in any text editor like vi
[20:09] <yancho> mMezquitale,  Scunizi   still it is saying no plugins :(
[20:09] <defrysk> solman0, sh blah.sh
[20:09] <xlq> zenlunatic: superseded by wodim, which I mentioned
[20:09] <zenlunatic> phixxor: for your personal machine or work or what?
[20:09] <guntbert> solman0: usually those are plain text files with commands for the shell
[20:09] <phixxor> zenlunatic: strictly personal. but I still wouldn't like it to crash!
[20:09] <mMezquitale> yancho, what plugin youre trying to use?
[20:09] <losha> logan1: and yet I don't see anyone else mentioning this. So, not *pointlessly* mean...
[20:09] <yotam> is there any intel support channel?
[20:09] <solman0> vi?
[20:09] <zenlunatic> xlq: nautilus
[20:09] <N3M35I5> iv upgraded from 8 to 9, and now i keep getting a stupid popping noise via my speakers i dont get with xp and 8. only on 9.10. any suggestions? thanks. the popping noise is like the slight pop you get when you turn your speakers on. it happens every few mins. Very annoying.
[20:09] <zenlunatic> phixxor: you're not going to notice speed differences.  build a raid if you want speed
[20:09] <logan1> nick125, Renamed it, video still plays. I had already fixed it. Forgot the audiovideosink command in gstreamer properties.
[20:10] <phixxor> Steve1972: cool! so there's really not much difference between them, at least for compression algorithms
[20:10] <zenlunatic> phixxor: or get a ssd
[20:10] <xlq> zenlunatic: you're not helping me at all. Nautilus uses brasero.
[20:10] <kevin__> uiuit
[20:10] <yancho> mMezquitale,  Scunizi   http://pastebin.ca/index.php
[20:10] <n8tuser> Matisse-> it looks like in line 101 your update is still running
[20:10] <Scunizi> yancho: what kind of plugins are you looking for? you might have to reinstall them
[20:10] <phixxor> zenlunatic: kk. Good advice.
[20:10] <athlan> dust_t whats -a? and is c the destination?
[20:10] <mage__> N3M35I5: did you look at pulseaudio yet?
[20:10] <nick125> logan1: So it works?
[20:10] <yancho> mMezquitale,  Scunizi   http://pastebin.ca/1649663
[20:10] <defrysk> solman0, no privating please
[20:10] <seth83> I am unable to add my UEC installation to the regions of my elasticfox plugin. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
[20:10] <logan1> nick125, That fix works. But without sound, watching videos is shitty :P
[20:10] <Steve1972> We've got a new IBM x3650 m2 with 6tb RAID and Ubuntu installs but won't boot unless we use the 9.10 install CD and choose 'boot from first hard drive' We're looking for advice.
[20:10] <zenlunatic> xlq: well good luck
[20:10] <dungodung> when I wanted to start epiphany-browser in karmic, I got the "unlock keyring" dialog, but neither the default keyring password nor the "deny" button work. the dialog just keeps popping and prompting me for a password; killing the process(es) restarts the dialog and I can't seem to get rid of it. anyone has any idea?
[20:10] <dust_t> athlan, -a is for copying all the files inside each dir recursively and yes c is the destination.
[20:10] <solman0> k
[20:10] <N3M35I5> mage_ im not sure how to do that. sorry. can you point me in the right direction
[20:11] <Jordan_U1> sharp1: iproute2 is installed by default in Ubuntu
[20:11] <Mike_lifeguard> How can I install firefox 3.0.15 in Karmic? Would it be safe to add the security updates PPA line for jaunty?
[20:11] <chasedawg> Hey can someone help me with some sound issues?
[20:11] <Jordan_U1> sharp1: Why are you trying to compile it from source?
[20:11] <digital-rouge> HEY GUYS I NEED SOME HELP WITH MY CDROM NOT RECONIZED IN 9.10
[20:11] <logan1> So... I can live with the big taskbar, and I can sorta survive not scrolling through desktops, but... without sound... Imma go nuts.
[20:11] <logan1> digilink, nice caps, calm down.
[20:11] <Mike_lifeguard> digital-rouge: Don't shout
[20:11] <defrysk> !caps
[20:11] <logan1> Err...
[20:11] <mage__> N3M35I5: i actually dont know, kill the process
[20:11] <digital-rouge> well sorry been here a minute
[20:11] <logan1> What they said, to the right person >__>
[20:11] <yancho> Scunizi,  mMezquitale  - the .so 's are in the plugins folder - its a soft link to the lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root    25 2009-10-30 21:06 plugins -> ../firefox-addons/plugins which in turn is a soft link to lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 25 2009-10-30 21:07 ../firefox-addons/plugins -> /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/
[20:11] <mage__> defrysk: slow on the ball there ;)
[20:11] <defrysk> ;p
[20:11] <sharp1> Jordan_U1, how to know if iproute2 is installed ? and how about glibc ?
[20:12] <addisonj> a quick question, if  was already running the beta, will just a dist-upgrade get me current?
[20:12] <logan1> So, sound, any ideas anyone?
[20:12] <mage__> !final | addisonj
[20:12] <logan1> Restarting alsa doesn't work.
[20:12] <defrysk> addisonj, yup
[20:12] <gus> hello all
[20:12] <Jordan_U1> sharp1: Type "ip" in a terminal, if you get output ( you will ) it's installed
[20:12] <addisonj> thought so
[20:12] <solman0> what is vi
[20:12] <logan1> *pokes his sound with a stick*
[20:12] <gus> does anybody knows about acx111 ?
[20:13] <mage__> solman0: text editor
[20:13] <Scunizi> yancho: did I read right .. did you install this version yourself? or is it the default install?
[20:13] <logan1> Oh yeah, that's dead.
[20:13] <chasedawg> Hey can someone help me with some sound issues?
[20:13] <dust_t> solman0, it is a text editor
[20:13] <nick125> logan1: Hmm. That's...strange
[20:13] <digital-rouge> chase dog sup
[20:13] <logan1> chasedawg, I can't, but I'm having some as well. What are yours.
[20:13] <sharp1> Jordan_U1, yes I get some out put . and how abt glibc ?
[20:13] <defrysk> solman0, if you have to ask, dont use it
[20:13] <chasedawg> not much
[20:13] <losha> !sound
[20:13] <N3M35I5> mage_
[20:13] <athlan> dust_t how do i know if cp is working? doesnt show me any progress bar.
[20:13] <N3M35I5> i killed it
[20:13] <yancho> Scunizi,  ;will i sound too dumb if i say i dont remember what i did?
[20:13] <logan1> nick125, Well, the video issue is fixed. So that's 1 out of 4, we're well on our way here.
[20:13] <N3M35I5> but it started right up and made a pop
[20:13] <DesertEagle> hello all!
[20:13] <N3M35I5> so im quessing it is that
[20:13] <mage__> hmmm
[20:13] <defrysk> athlan, no output is corract usage
[20:13] <zenlunatic> athlan: probably -v
[20:13] <dust_t> athlan, use -v to show all the files being copied
[20:13] <zenlunatic> athlan: maybe -h
[20:14] <DesertEagle> i just upgraded to Koala and now my firefox menu icons are gone, any clues? thanks!
[20:14] <logan1> nick125, Now I just need sound. No idea where to start (thanks for the help on the video btw)
[20:14] <trism> DesertEagle: System/Preferences/Appearance, Interface Tab, enable icons in menus (probably)
[20:15] <nick125> logan1: What issue are you having with the sound?
[20:15] <Scunizi> yancho: weeelllll...... if you're on 9.10 you should have the latest preinstalled.. if you're on 9.04 or before and installed FF 3.5 then it will show up in Accessories>Internet>Shiretko
[20:15] <zenlunatic> DesertEagle: gnome 2.18 disabled those menu icons
[20:15] <logan1> nick125, It's not there? At all? As if my entire soundcard isn't seen.
[20:15] <DesertEagle> D= noooooo
[20:15] <zenlunatic> DesertEagle: 2.28 rather
[20:15] <DesertEagle> noooooooooooo ooo ooo oooooo
[20:15] <logan1> nick125, When I start audacity or secondlife, my speakers pop and then nothing.
[20:15] <zenlunatic> DesertEagle: disabled, not removed
[20:15] <DesertEagle> oh ok :D
[20:15] <zenlunatic> DesertEagle: just reinabled them
[20:15] <phixxor> could I get help with this question? (only one view so far) thanks! http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1306646
[20:15] <yancho> looooool Scunizi  :)))) it did work!! haha
[20:15] <DesertEagle> yey! they're back
[20:15] <Scunizi> yancho: so it's a different link in the menu then the normal FF link
[20:15] <Pelo> !grub2
[20:15] <solman0> Am just trying o figure out ow to extract .sh file is there a way to do it without editor?
[20:16] <DesertEagle> trism: thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you!
[20:16] <yancho> how stupid of me Scunizi  :)) thanks alot!
[20:16] <nick125> logan1: Does the card show up in /proc/asound/cards?
[20:16] <DesertEagle> kthxbai everyone! :D
[20:16] <Scunizi> yancho: glad we finally figured out what was going on :)
[20:16] <gunther_> Does anyone know how to switch between netbook-Interface and standard-desktop?
[20:16] <Kate> The heck. >.<
[20:16] <logan1> nick125, How do I see that? Terminal and then just to the dirs?
[20:16] <OzoneNerd> I am temporarily without a blank CD-ROM.  Is there a reasonably easy way for me to install the new release without it? (I have a large flash drive, if it will be of use.)
[20:16] <zenlunatic> solman0: what do you mean extract
[20:16] <yancho> how come it has its name changed ? :S Scunizi
[20:16] <Kate> the stupid Ubuntu installer is using partman-auto_84ubuntu4_amd64.udeb instead of partman-auto_89ubuntu4_amd64.udeb
[20:16] <Kate> *stabs it
[20:16] <Scunizi> !install | OzoneNerd
[20:17] <defrysk> solman0, for reading it open it in gedit
[20:17] <lorenzo> hi everyone, since I'm going to do a fresh install for karmic i'd like to know if I should install the 64bit version...i used the 64 for hardy heron it in but switched to the 32bit one cos frankly the flash plugin in firefox was practically unusable at the time. are things any better now? thanks
[20:17] <[kingnerd> solman0, extract?
[20:17] <athlan> If i do cp -a, does it replace existing files, or skip?
[20:17] <nick125> logan1: terminal and run 'cat /proc/asound/cards'
[20:17] <Scunizi> OzoneNerd: the last link is for usb and other ways.
[20:17] <xlq> lorenzo: flash plugin's working fine here.
[20:17] <defrysk> solman0,  gedit blah.sh
[20:17] <[kingnerd> You can edit it with any text editor.  Chmod +x then double click to run, or use sh [x].sh
[20:17] <xlq> lorenzo: just install flashplugin-nonfree
[20:17] <OzoneNerd> Scunizi: Thanks, I'll read it.
[20:17] <jMyles> I'm getting the following error when I try to upgrade to karmic from the alternate CD iso: Could not find the upgrade application archive, exiting
[20:17] <logan1> HDA Intel shows up.
[20:17] <logan1> nick125, HDA-Intel shows up, as does my USB webcam.
[20:17] <codeswing> What is md5 checksum of ubuntu karmic i386
[20:17] <lorenzo> xlq, yeah that was what i had but it was still crashing all the time.
[20:18] <pqwer1> Hi, I seem to be having display issues post karmic upgrade... how do I force xorg to use generic display drivers rather than openchrome drivers?
[20:18] <xlq> lorenzo: hmm. Well I can only say, it works fine here
[20:18] <pqwer1> I was not having *any* issues with jaunty
[20:18] <nick125> logan1: Do you have mplayer installed?
[20:18] <adac> How can I force X server to start at booting?
[20:18] <athlan> If i do cp -a, does it replace existing files, or skip?
[20:18] <logan1> nick125, lemme check.
[20:18] <xlq> lorenzo: alternatively you can get the unstable 64-bit plugin from Adobe. I used that for a while on another distro, and it didn't crash once
[20:18] <lorenzo> xlq, ok, thanks, i'll give it another shot then :)
[20:18] <defrysk> athlan, man cp
[20:18] <xlq> surprisingly
[20:18] <logan1> nick125, Yep.
[20:18] <lorenzo> xlq, ah cool
[20:18] <adac> After an upgrade X won't start anymore. However I'm able to start X with startx
[20:18] <nick125> logan1: Okay...try this then: mplayer -ao alsa <some file>
[20:18] <daleamon> has anyone had the jaunty->karmic do-release-upgrade get stuck saying "100% [Working]" forever?
[20:19] <codeswing> What is md5 checksum of ubuntu karmic i386
[20:19] <dust_t> athlan, if you want to be sure use -i it will ask you before overwriting any file
[20:19] <zenlunatic> !md5
[20:19] <cantigas> For 9.10 live usb install, I want to set aufs and root fs as noatime, any ideas/hints/ptrs?
[20:19] <lorenzo> xlq, how about those applications that are not availble for 64? is it easy to always force the install?
[20:19] <codeswing> zenlunatic: I want result of it
[20:19] <logan1> nick125, File plays, surprisingly in a blue hue, with no sound :D
[20:19] <solman0> Can i extract .sh file without using text editor?
[20:19] <codeswing> I have done that..
[20:20] <pqwer1> anybody?
[20:20] <xlq> lorenzo: which applications? I think for packages like Google Earth, for which there are Ubuntu packages, the 32-bit libraries will get installed automatically
[20:20] <zenlunatic> codeswing: md5sum file.iso
[20:20] <Scunizi> lorenzo: there's a 32bit lib you install for 32 bit apps on a 64 bit install.. I can't remember the name though
[20:20] <nick125> logan1: the blue hue isn't surprising.
[20:20] <codeswing> zenlunatic: yeah I have done that step
[20:20] <codeswing> my cd is not booting up
[20:20] <logan1> nick125, It is to me, but I take it Mplayer doesn't use gstreamer.
[20:20] <AkuAku> exit
[20:20] <zenlunatic> codeswing: okay just look for the corresponding md5sum list on any download mirror and make sure they match, if so you're good to go
[20:20] <nick125> logan1: exactly.
[20:21] <xlq> there are many lib32blah packages
[20:21] <defrysk> mplayer uses w32 or w64 codecs
[20:21] <sam_> some one plz tell me how i install tar.gz through terminal ?
[20:21] <logan1> nick125, Alright, but no sound.
[20:21] <garymaurizi> can anyone please tell me how to check and see if my webCAM is using the v4l uvc driver i just attempted too install?
[20:21] <xlq> sam_: where have you got this tar.gz file?
[20:21] <defrysk> sam_, why  would you do that ?
[20:21] <lorenzo> xlq, Scunizi, ok i'll try to figure that out
[20:21] <digital-rouge> ok guys ima hang around just shoot me an im when you got time for me
[20:21] <zenlunatic> codeswing: if its not booting your iso file could be corrupt
[20:21] <Greggaz> Any Reason When i Boot ubuntu 9.10 When installing it goes straight to Terminal?
[20:21] <Greggaz> Im been Having this issue for few hours now
[20:21] <defrysk> sam_, use the package ubuntu provides ?
[20:21] <Scunizi> sam_: a tar is usually a collection of files like a zip file.. you don't install it directly .. you typically uncompress it in a folder and compile it.. what program is it?
[20:22] <nick125> logan1: Do you have padevchooser installed?
[20:22] <guntbert> !ask | digital-rouge
[20:22] <Greggaz>  Any Reason When i Boot ubuntu 9.10 When installing it goes straight to Terminal?
[20:22] <garymaurizi> help ^^:oX
[20:22] <logan1> nick125, I don't think so. But apt-get is about to tell me :D
[20:22] <jrib> !away > gh0zt_away
[20:22] <nubble33> where can I find info about why my bind9 config suddenly isn't working?
[20:22] <dan___> Help: What is best way to mount 2nd HDD on startup?
[20:22] <Greggaz>  Any Reason When i Boot ubuntu 9.10 When installing it goes straight to Terminal?
[20:22] <logan1> nick125, I'll have it in a minute.
[20:22] <sam_> scunizi: i want the procedure
[20:22] <logan1> nick125, Installed.
[20:22] <Snadder> Anyone know if ubuntu have good support for ntfs?
[20:23] <Greggaz>  Any Reason When i Boot ubuntu 9.10 When installing it goes straight to Terminal?
[20:23] <gunther_> Karmic: No WPA2 on eee-netbook?
[20:23] <Scunizi> !compile > sam_
[20:23] <phixxor> if I just installed windows 7, should I restore grub1, then upgrade to grub2, or just install grub2?
[20:23] <guntbert> !repeat | Greggaz
[20:23] <MrKimm> Hey, anyone know how to get Gnome-DO above windows in Karmic?
[20:23] <logan1> Fine support, Snadder .
[20:23] <Greggaz> ok
[20:23] <ole-> !torrents
[20:23] <yancho> Scunizi many many thanks :)
[20:23] <garymaurizi> can anyone please tell me how to check and see if my webCAM is using the v4l uvc driver i just attempted too install?
[20:23] <Scunizi> yancho: you're welcome :)
[20:23] <KnifeySpooney> Snadder: What do you define as "good support"? I have two ntfs partitions and I haven't noticed any problems.
[20:23] <Greggaz> let me know when you have an answer for me
[20:23] <nick125> logan1: I think you'll also need pavucontrol
[20:24] <defrysk> garymaurizi, install cheese and check with that prog ?
[20:24] <KnifeySpooney> Snadder: Accessing the drives goes fine, but you may need Samba if you want to access network ntfs drives
[20:24] <dan___> Greggaz what version did you instalL?
[20:24] <garymaurizi> defrysk cheese does not tell you what driver the webcam is currently using, only displays the image
[20:24] <Greggaz> dan___, 9.10
[20:24] <dan___> Greggaz you might not have installed Desktop 9.10
[20:24] <dan___> Greggaz there are four versions of 9.10, alt, server, netbook, and Desktop
[20:24] <logan1> nick125, I have that. Currently looking at the pulse audio thingy.
[20:24] <solman0> flashplugin-nonfree will auto extract .sh file?
[20:25] <guntbert> Greggaz: it is generally ragarded sensible to repeat your questions every 10-15 minutes, just not *so* often :)
[20:25] <nubble33> where can I find info about why my bind9 config suddenly isn't working?  default log location?  not in /var/log/bind ?
[20:25] <dan___> Greggaz you want desktop
[20:25] <dr3mro> plz can any one help me fix fn laptop keys
[20:25] <defrysk> garymaurizi, check prefs in cheese, device used is shown
[20:25] <nick125> logan1: make sure that the output device isn't muted and its above 0
[20:25] <Scunizi> Greggaz: 9.10 server or Desktop?  you can reinstall the desktop by typing ... sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop .. when it's done you should be able to reboot into the gui
[20:25] <dr3mro> my fn f5 f6 dont work in karmic
[20:25] <Greggaz> yes
[20:25] <lorenzo> xql, are there any other problems i may encounter using the 64 version? thanks
[20:26] <sam_> then what should be the procedure ?
[20:26] <dan___> Greggaz I would just burn the right copy to CD and reinstall.
[20:26] <rohan> are ubuntu ISOs hybrid iso which can be just dumped on a pen drive to make liveusb?
[20:26] <dan___> to avoid problems
[20:26] <Greggaz> Ok thank you Scunizi
[20:26] <daleamon> I'll try again: has anyone had the jaunty->karmic do-release-upgrade get stuck saying "100% [Working]" forever?
[20:26] <zenlunatic> lorenzo: just read the release notes i assure you none of us has them memorized
[20:26] <losha> logan1: for what it's worth. I just got 9.10 sound working under vmware by following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenSound but choosing ALSA instead of OSS, and rebooting. No idea if that will work for you....
[20:26] <logan1> nick125, New program, so... err... where do I find that? I've got a tiny icon in my toolbar for pulse audio and no idea where to click in it's menu :P
[20:26] <dan___> Help: What is best way to mount 2nd HDD on startup?
[20:26] <Greggaz> ok dan___ The Ubuntu 9.10 AMD is Downloading via Torrent Now :)
[20:26] <Scunizi> dan___: that would be the long way around for Greggaz ..
[20:26] <linux_dr> I'm really confused on how to configure apache in Ubuntu 9.10.... I'm trying to turn on the RewriteLog to no avail... ideas?
[20:26] <phixxor> if I just installed windows 7, should I restore grub1, then upgrade to grub2, or just install grub2?
[20:26] <logan1> losha, Well, I am using ALSA already.
[20:26] <Greggaz> dan___, its grub loading a terminal
[20:26] <Greggaz> Thats the Issue
[20:26] <crohakon> linux_dr; #ubuntu_server
[20:27] <jMyles> am I the only one having trouble upgrading to karmic from CD?
[20:27] <linux_dr> thanks
[20:27] <Greggaz> When installing Grubs Loading the terminal
[20:27] <Snadder> knifeyspooney: I mean that writing alot of data to an ntfs partition goes flawless
[20:27] <lfaraone> crohakon: you mean #ubuntu-server, right?
[20:27] <arand> !liveusb | rohan
[20:27] <Greggaz> Scunizi, When installing Grubs Loading the terminal
[20:27] <dan___> Greggaz so it says "grub> "
[20:27] <defrysk> phixxor, reinstall gub
[20:27] <Greggaz> dan___, yes
[20:27] <arand> !usb | rohan
[20:27] <nick125> logan1: apps->sound/video->pa volume control
[20:27] <demonspork> 9.10, How do I install Grub from the LiveCD, the instructions online don't work
[20:27] <xlq> jMyles: no, I managed to lose libstdc++ and nothing would work :\
[20:27] <StarMatt> Hi
[20:27] <lfaraone> demonspork: where does it stop working?
[20:27] <sampo> hello
[20:27] <Snadder> KnifeySpooney: to a local disk
[20:27] <sampo> yes
[20:27] <sampo> thank you people
[20:27] <phixxor> defrysk: thanks
[20:27] <dan___> Greggaz your menu.lst is messed up, you will need to setup grub correctly. Did you have previous version on your comp?
[20:27] <sampo> I managed to activate my wifi card
[20:27] <losha> !flash
[20:28] <crohakon> lfaraone; yeah, oops
[20:28] <jMyles> xlq, et. al.: I cannot even manage to start the upgrade dialogue from the Karmic alternate CD.
[20:28] <garymaurizi> dmesg less shows [  108.738878] uvcvideo: Found UVC 1.00 device Microsoft® LifeCam Show(TM)(045e:0729)[  108.743951] input: Microsoft® LifeCam Show(TM) as /devices/   pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.7/usb1/1-1/1-1:1.0/input/input6
[20:28] <crohakon> linux_dr; #ubuntu-server
[20:28] <Greggaz> dan___, No i didnt i Just installed this version
[20:28] <defrysk> phixxor, its the safer choice imo
[20:28] <demonspork> lfaraone, find /boot/grub/stage1 doesn't find the grub dir, and grub doesn't even seem to recognize the disk
[20:28] <StarMatt> I just installed Ubuntu 9.10 desktop on my eeePC and I was wondering how to enable the MOBLIN interface, can you help me PLEASE ?
[20:28] <garymaurizi> but cheese is set to /dev/video0?1!?!?!
[20:28] <sampo> running on 9.10...+it looks great
[20:28]  * mikeru is Still waiting for root device
[20:28] <dan___> Greggaz did you install bootloader when installing?
[20:28] <lfaraone> demonspork: is your disk ext4?
[20:28] <garymaurizi> does that mean cheese is not ucing UVCVIDEO?
[20:28] <sbt> empathy doesn't scroll properly. it's EXTREMELY annoying. will there be a fix for this soon?
[20:28] <phixxor> demonspork: did you mount the partitions?
[20:28] <lfaraone> demonspork: if so, you have to be installing grub2.
[20:28] <demonspork> lfaraone, ext3
[20:28] <arand> demonspork: I think you'll have to use the grub-install command, or just grub-setup to install mbr..
[20:28] <Scunizi> dan___: Greggaz 's grub might just be installed on the wrong drive if he has a multi drive setup.. still he'll need use the grub reinstall.. unfortuantly I don't know how to do that with grub2
[20:28] <Greggaz> dan___, Formatted the HDD Before Installing and yes Created bootloader
[20:28] <defrysk> garymaurizi, if the driver works whats the issue ?
[20:28] <lfaraone> sbt: check to see if there's a bug filed, otherwise probably no.
[20:28] <logan1> nick125, not muted, all set to 100%, I'm playing a song right now and the volume meter is flippin' out :P But over here... it's all silent.
[20:29] <arand> demonspork: this on 9.10 with grub2
[20:29] <lfaraone> sbt: use pidgin, or file a bug on Launchpad/Freedesktop.org
[20:29] <nick125> logan1: open up a terminal and run alsamixer -c0
[20:29] <nick125> make sure it isn't muted there
[20:29] <garymaurizi> defrysk Karmic Koala does not come with UVC  driver default for my cam, i just installed it but cheese is showing the image as if its NOT USING the newly installed UVCvideo driver
[20:29] <phixxor> logan1: maybe your speakers are unplugged? :P
[20:29] <logan1> nick125, doesn't work.
[20:29] <Greggaz> Scunizi, dan___ only one hdd, one partition
[20:29] <garymaurizi> dmesg less shows [  108.738878] uvcvideo: Found UVC 1.00 device Microsoft® LifeCam Show(TM)(045e:0729)[  108.743951] input: Microsoft® LifeCam Show(TM) as /devices/   pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.7/usb1/1-1/1-1:1.0/input/input6  but cheese prefs say its using /devices/video0
[20:29] <vsMS> Hi! need to create an initscript for a firstboot mechanism in karmic. what would be the best to do this? traditional sysV init or upstart - and if upstart: how?
[20:29] <nubble33> is there a configuration checking utility for bind9??
[20:29] <logan1> phixxor, I had that thought, but no :P Funny though.
[20:30] <dan___> Greggaz how many HDD do you ahve
[20:30] <dan___> also if someone can answer my question:
[20:30] <dan___> Help: What is best way to mount 2nd HDD on startup?
[20:30] <phixxor> logan1: it's always worth a shot though!
[20:30] <phixxor> :P
[20:30] <zenlunatic> nubble33: um no one here runs dns server im sure
[20:30] <demonspork> Arand, 9.10 amd64 with whatever is installed by default to a preexisting ext3 partition. I set it to install Grub to /dev/sda5 rather than to the MBR, but the preexisting loader isn't working right so I just want to install grub to the MBR, but grub on the livecd isn't recognizing the disk
[20:30] <Greggaz> dan___, 1 HDD
[20:30] <Greggaz> I Removed OSX
[20:30] <Greggaz> And Cleaned my HDD
[20:30] <logan1> nick125, when I try to run alsamixer normally, without added command, I get this: alsamixer
[20:30] <logan1> alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory
[20:30] <nubble33> heh, nobody in here runs internal DNS? I find that hard to believe
[20:30] <Greggaz> Then Installed Bootloader & Ubuntu 9.10 from Disc
[20:31] <daleamon> I guess no one has seen that problem then. Is it safe to just kill the hung do-release-upgrade? Will I still have a bootable firewall afterwards? I am going away for 6 weeks 36 hours from now and need this to be working when I leave.
[20:31] <guntbert> dan___: put it into /etc/fstab ?
[20:31] <mage__> nubble33: i have used it occasionally
[20:31] <centHOGG> <serv2003
[20:31] <_Techie_> i have made a persistant usb of karmic using an extracted livecd, however it recreates the user ubuntu at each boot so i am unable to change the password or details
[20:31] <mage__> but right now i just put lan ips on my public domain :)
[20:31] <Scunizi> dan___: install pysdm as a graphical drive mounting program.. on reboot the drives you mounted should automatically load
[20:31] <Greggaz> dan___, 1 Hard Drive - 1 Partition
[20:31] <nick125> logan1: that's strange
[20:31] <zenlunatic> nubble33: believe what your want
[20:31] <garymaurizi> how can i tell karmic koala too use V4L for my webcam instead of whatever is default too karmic? please? anyone
[20:32] <StarMatt> I just installed Ubuntu 9.10 desktop on my eeePC and I was wondering how to enable the MOBLIN interface, can you help me PLEASE ?
[20:32] <logan1> nick125, quite.
[20:32] <dan___> guntbert alright i was wondering if there was a better method
[20:32] <Greggaz> dan___, Are you still able to help me?
[20:32] <mage__> _Techie_: so make a user called dudebuntu?
[20:32] <nick125> logan1: pastebin /proc/asound/cards please
[20:32] <logan1> nick125, When I go to PA Volume control and then to "devices" it doesn't list any.
[20:32] <dan___> Greggaz hold your horses i am looking at grub2 commands
[20:32] <defrysk> garymaurizi, probably you need to blacklist the original and set up the new module
[20:32] <phixxor> daodebuntu
[20:32] <xlq> Is it safe to disable AT SPI Registry Wrapper if I don't use the accessibility features?
[20:32] <Greggaz> ok Thanks dan___
[20:32] <garymaurizi> defrysk, i dont know how to do this, anywhere on google to point me too? or can you tell me?
[20:33] <guntbert> dan___: is it a built in disk?
[20:33] <_Techie_> mage__, i dont want to have an unpassworded user that automatically logs in
[20:33] <logan1> nick125,  0 [Intel          ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel
[20:33] <logan1>                       HDA Intel at 0xeb300000 irq 22
[20:33] <logan1>  1 [U0x46d0x9a4    ]: USB-Audio - USB Device 0x46d:0x9a4
[20:33] <logan1>                       USB Device 0x46d:0x9a4 at usb-0000:00:1a.7-3, high speed
[20:33] <FloodBot3> logan1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:33] <dan___> guntbert it is an internal disk
[20:33] <logan1> Sorry! :P
[20:33] <demonspork> I install 9.10 amd64 with whatever grub is installed by default to a preexisting ext3 partition. I set it to install Grub to /dev/sda5 rather than to the MBR, but the preexisting loader isn't working right so I just want to install grub to the MBR, but grub on the livecd isn't recognizing the disk
[20:33] <norrec> so what is a good program for disk imaging for backup?
[20:33] <dan___> Greggaz do "--help" or "/help"
[20:33] <coz_> hey guys   power manager set to "never"  screensaver disabled  yet the moniutor goes to sleep  any solutions?
[20:33] <jrib> norrec: partimage
[20:33] <Greggaz> ok dan___
[20:33] <Scunizi> norrec: clonezilla
[20:34] <zenlunatic> coz_: monitor's own settings firmware?
[20:34] <nick125> logan1: What about sudo alsamixer -c 0
[20:34] <guntbert> dan___: then you will have to tell the system which partitions you want to mount where - so use /etc/fstab please
[20:34] <logan1> nick125: wrong -c argument '0'
[20:34] <coz_> zenlunatic,   mm   no it didnt do this in jaunty or fesity  or any of them
[20:34] <phixxor> demonspork: could you pastebin the output of what you're doing, and grub not recognizing the disk?
[20:34] <Greggaz> dan___, Unknown Command
[20:34] <norrec> Scunizi, jrib is there any major differences between partimage and clonezilla and i want to install it to a server, so does it have a web based interface or would it be all command line?
[20:35] <nick125> logan1: What about -c 1 then?
[20:35] <logan1> but nick125, I don't get any cards available for configuration in PA volume control.
[20:35] <dan___> Greggaz try grub-edit
[20:35] <logan1> nick125, same message.
[20:35] <jrib> norrec: I am not familiar with clonezilla.  I do not believe partimage has a web interface, no.  It has a command line and gui interface
[20:35] <TheCheeze> can anyone help figure out why my 3rd party apps like x-chat and pidgin will not launch firefox since my karmic upgrade? i tried upgrading to 3.5.4 and it did not fix it
[20:35] <sorush20> hi.. my usb webcam doesn't get recognised fast enough. I have to unplug and replug it everytime.
[20:35] <nick125> logan1: Anything pertaining to audio/pulseaudio in /var/log/messages?
[20:35] <logan1> nick125, how do I check?
[20:36] <pqwer1> Hi, I seem to be having display issues post karmic upgrade... how do I force xorg to use generic display drivers rather than openchrome drivers?
[20:36] <pqwer1> I was not having *any* issues with jaunty
[20:36] <Scunizi> norrec: partimage I think is a ncurses interface for cli access.. you'll have to read up on them
[20:36] <nick125> logan1: cat /var/log/messages and look through it
[20:36] <demonspork> phixxor, http://pastebin.com/m4c59cc21
[20:36] <Crayboff> i've been trying to upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10, however it hangs when it gets to file 500 out of 1663, so I just tried to change to a mirror server ( mirror.cc.columbia.edu ) and an error occurred. the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 6AF0E1940624A220
[20:36] <norrec> jrib, Scunizi alright, thanks for ur help guys
[20:36] <digital-rouge> hey guys im having cdrom issues since karmic update
[20:36] <dan___> Greggaz check pm
[20:37] <E4rlGrey> *yawn*
[20:37] <phixxor> demonspork: ok, and what tutorial are you using to install it?
[20:37] <MasterofPuppets> Hey guys. I'm trying to install Vista, already have Ubuntu installed. I've got the disc in the computer but it won't boot from it; any way to force that?
[20:37] <nick_h> while booted into a KUbuntu Live CD, i modified xorg.conf and restarted kdm. however, kdm didn't come back up. does something special need to be done?
[20:37] <zleap> MasterofPuppets, this is a ubuntu channel
[20:37] <bright> how do you enable alsa?
[20:37] <E4rlGrey> MasterofPuppets ... depends on your computer... but press whatever button will take you to the boot menu
[20:37] <MasterofPuppets> zleap: I know, hence why I'm asking here
[20:38] <E4rlGrey> then choose to boot from cd/dvd
[20:38] <Scunizi> MasterofPuppets: if you're not playing win games use virtualbox and install vista there.
[20:38] <Kuprin> Hey ubu guys, running 9.10 amd64 here and trying to get stuff installed on Eclipse. Problem: sometimes some of the buttons don't work. Clicking them presses them down, highlights them, and does nothing. Usually they work after that if I press enter. Persists over multiple known-good versions of eclipse from other systems. Probably Java VM related - any known solution yet?
[20:38] <root_> My system doesn't boot...problem no karnel ..so how do I fix the karnel without loose my data ?
[20:38] <Tesssa> and why install vista
[20:38] <digital-rouge> bright go to sound in the system-admin menu
[20:38] <MasterofPuppets> Scunizi: Does virtualbox support iPod syncing?
[20:38] <demonspork> phixxor, I am just doing those 2 commands, I had to sudo apt-get install grub first though because grub doesn't seem to be included on the LiveCD first
[20:38] <logan1> nick125, Erm, nope.
[20:38] <innomen> ok i really really cant do this on my own, i cant recall the name of the application, it recorded video and audio, i keep thinking the name was lvcview or uvc or something like that, it had tabs, and tons of options and a deb file, i need help trying to find a way to recall refind this application
[20:38] <digital-rouge> need help cdrom not mounting
[20:39] <norrec> MasterofPuppets, why dont u just use a ubuntu based ipod manager
[20:39] <phixxor> demonspork: I think your problem may be that grub2 is installed by default with 9.10 installations, and the recovery methods are completely different
[20:39] <crohakon> I keep vista install on a second hard drive on this laptop just so I can continue to play games when I need to reduce stress. Battlefield 2 is so good for that.
[20:39] <E4rlGrey> innomen:  Avidemux?
[20:39] <demonspork> phixxor, I have done this so many times previously with Ubuntu, I am quite surprised this isn't working.  I might have to get out an older Ubuntu LiveCD because I know their grub works fine
[20:39] <Laserbeak> hello, i was getting a message "Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".K2 - Fatal Error: CHost::Init() - Unable to find a suitable FBConfig" so i installed mesa-utils and when i try to run glxgears i get the message "Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual" what do i do?
[20:39] <digital-rouge> hey i just got my ipod working in ubuntu
[20:39] <innomen> the icon was a little white camera
[20:39] <demonspork> phixxor, ooooh
[20:39] <digital-rouge> works just like i tunes
[20:39] <MasterofPuppets> norrec: none work unless it's jailbroken
[20:39] <innomen> E4rlGrey, it was a capture program not an editor
[20:39] <nick125> logan1: Okay. Let's try this, then. pulseaudio --kill then run pulseaudio -vvv and _pastebin_ the output
[20:39] <dcider> i have auto login enabled but still need a password for evolution, is there away turn this off?
[20:39] <fizzle> has anyone installed jaunty on a power pc?
[20:39] <Scunizi> MasterofPuppets: yes if you install the version from virtualbox.. not the one in the repos.. there are further instructions to get the usb connection working but that better asked in #vbox
[20:39] <Kroptax> hi
[20:39] <Kroptax> i installed ubuntu on a separate partition when i had windows vista installed, and ive been using the grub bootloader to boot into vista/linux, but now i just upgraded to windows 7 and the bootloader is gone so i cant boot into linux any more... how can i get the grub bootloader back ?
[20:39] <phixxor> demonspork: yeah, so if you installed grub2, you just have to use the correct grub2 recovery method... googling for it now
[20:40] <root_> My system doesn't boot...problem no karnel ..so how do I fix the karnel without loose my data ?
[20:40] <norrec> MasterofPuppets, my gf used songbird to do it on ubuntu
[20:40] <logan1> nick125, yeah, that gives me a bunch of error messages.
[20:40] <norrec> MasterofPuppets, i know it has a plugin
[20:40] <innomen> someone here knows what it is, i know it
[20:40] <innomen> i just have to find them
[20:40] <MasterofPuppets> norrec: It doesn't work unless the iPod is jailbroken :(
[20:40] <E4rlGrey> MasterofPuppets... I can also recommend songbird... pretty good program
[20:40] <logan1> nick125, After kill command: E: main.c: Failed to kill daemon: No such process
[20:40] <innomen> i've been searching for 3 hours
[20:40] <nick125> logan1: pastebin the output from pulseaudio -vvv
[20:40] <norrec> MasterofPuppets, well her's wasnt jail broken, it was a new ipod classic
[20:40] <DesertEagle> round two...
[20:40] <Hlokisn> hello
[20:40] <Kroptax> does anyone know ?
[20:41] <Scunizi> norrec: you won't need to jailbreak it in a vm of vista though
[20:41] <Hlokisn> server online?
[20:41] <nick125> (pastebin it at pastebin.ubuntu.com and paste the link here)
[20:41] <root_> ?
[20:41] <logan1> No command 'pulsaudio' found, did you mean:
[20:41] <logan1>  Command 'pulseaudio' from package 'pulseaudio' (main)
[20:41] <logan1> pulsaudio: command not found
[20:41] <solman0>  installer .sh file anyone familiar with this?
[20:41] <MasterofPuppets> norrec: this one is a Touch, they use a different hashing scheme
[20:41] <Kroptax> i installed ubuntu on a separate partition when i had windows vista installed, and ive been using the grub bootloader to boot into vista/linux, but now i just upgraded to windows 7 and the bootloader is gone so i cant boot into linux any more... how can i get the grub bootloader back ?
[20:41] <Scunizi> solman0: sudo sh <filename.sh>
[20:41] <DesertEagle> anyone know why my keyboard volume thing is all slow now? (the screen pop-up with the sound bar takes forever to show and the volume forever to change)
[20:41] <logan1> nick125, did you catch that?
[20:41] <phixxor> demonspork: this may be what you're looking for http://www.ubuntu-inside.me/2009/06/howto-recover-grub2-after-windows.html
[20:41] <nick125> logan1: typo ;-)
[20:41] <digital-rouge>  
[20:41] <norrec> MasterofPuppets, well Scunizi says you wouldnt need to if u made a virtual machine of vista in ubuntu
[20:42] <Diddleha> "Landscape" crashed and i wanted to send a report on it (Newly installed Kosmic Coala) but i ended up somewhere i need to insert my email and password etc ???. Why, and was it reported ok ?
[20:42] <phixxor> demonspork: if not, google is your best friend, and you can always come back here for help. Good luck!
[20:42] <digital-rouge> ?join #linux
[20:42] <pqwer1> how do I force x to use generic drivers rather than openchrome?
[20:42] <logan1> nick125, >____> It's doing a bunch of things now.
[20:42] <bostrt> hi, i am trying to ssh into my computer and when i nmap the port it is filtered. i altered iptables by adding a new rule to accept all traffic but still no
[20:42] <nick125> logan1: pastebin that output...
[20:42] <demonspork> phixxor, I am going to have to redo my entire boot loader setup, because it appears that easybcd in windows doesn't know how to deal with grub2, which I think is starting my whole issue,
[20:42] <MasterofPuppets> norrec: That's what I'm trying to do
[20:42] <demonspork> thanks for the help
[20:42] <vasi> is there no default IRC client in karmic?
[20:43] <mdmkolbe> What is the right way to install ubuntu onto a machine I plan to reformat without using a CD (I have an external (USB) hard drive I'd like to install from)?  Google turns up a number of different ways and I'm not sure which are out dated.  So what is the "right" method for 9.10?
[20:43] <MasterofPuppets> Scunizi: Is it in the repos?
[20:43] <norrec> MasterofPuppets, ah i missed that part, i thought u were trying to dual boot
[20:43] <vasi> or rather, no IRC client included in the default install, i mean
[20:43] <Scunizi> bostrt: did you install ssh on the computer you're trying to connect to?
[20:43] <logan1> nick125, http://paste.ubuntu.com/305362/
[20:43] <pqwer1> anybody?
[20:43] <dbruns> i'm trying to install Ubuntu 9.10 on an old Dell with the 32 bit x86  desktop CD burned from the ISO i downloaded from a mirror. Its not booting to the CD.. anything in particular I should look for?
[20:43] <pqwer1> it can't be that frigging hard can it?
[20:43] <bostrt> Scunizi: yes an the .conf is configured correctly
[20:43] <vasi> pqwer1, tried editing xorg.conf?
[20:43] <Kroptax> i installed ubuntu on a separate partition when i had windows vista installed, and ive been using the grub bootloader to boot into vista/linux, but now i just upgraded to windows 7 and the bootloader is gone so i cant boot into linux any more... how can i get the grub bootloader back ?
[20:43] <Scunizi> MasterofPuppets: yes but that version doen't have usb support .. you have to use the .deb file direct from www.virtualbox.org
[20:43] <phixxor> demonspork: no problem. you can probably reinstall grub with an old boot cd without any problems
[20:43] <pqwer1> vasi: there is no such file
[20:43] <vasi> pqwer1, you can create it
[20:43] <bostrt> Scunizi: I think it is...should be
[20:43] <vasi> mdmkolbe, there are several options
[20:44] <MasterofPuppets> Scunizi: Alright, downloading :) Thanks!
[20:44] <Diddleha> vasi: xchat is always the best.
[20:44] <pqwer1> vasi: and add what exactly?
[20:44] <nick125> logan1: D: module-udev-detect.c: /dev/snd/controlC1 is accessible: no
[20:44] <pqwer1> vasi: is there a guide by any chance?
[20:44] <vasi> pqwer1, unsure in your particular case, you'll have to use google for more info
[20:44] <Scunizi> bostrt: strange.. all I do on the host machine is sudo apt-get install ssh and it does the client and server.. from the other I ssh <username@IP_Address>
[20:44] <alabd> Good day everyone , On a flash USB ubuntu is installed on ext3     partition and another fat32 partition is beside it , but windows can not open even fat32 partition ,why ?
[20:44] <vasi> Diddleha, yeah, that's what i'm using, i'm just surprised there's nothing included
[20:44] <logan1> nick125, I don't know what that means, but that smiley has me worried.
[20:44] <RhysTM> I can't get anything to work in 9.10 :(
[20:45] <solman0> Anyone understand this i la-min terms. For Unix or Unix-like operating systems:
[20:45] <solman0> 1. For Java 2, after downloading, type java -jar launcher.jar
[20:45] <solman0> 2. For Java 1.1, after downloading, type jre -cp launcher.jar install
[20:45] <solman0> 3. If that does not work, try java -classpath [path to] classes.zip:launcher.jar install
[20:45] <solman0> 4. If that does not work either, on sh-like shells, try
[20:45] <FloodBot3> solman0: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:45] <solman0> cd [to directory where launcher.jar is located]
[20:45] <vasi> mdmkolbe, if the drive has nothing important on it, you can just treat it like a flash drive and use the USB Install Creator thingy
[20:45] <wsg> hi, can anyone help me with an audio problem on ubuntu kk?
[20:45] <bostrt> Scunizi: Yes. sometimes it will work. when execute the ssh command i will let the attempt time out and the port will be open
[20:45] <Diddleha> vasi: It should be, perhaps. Xchat has been the best for the past 10 years or so
[20:45] <solman0> sorry
[20:45] <nick125> logan1: Well, it says that pulseaudio can't open the audio device.....
[20:45] <pqwer1> vasi: I'd just like to get *any* display and worry about 3D etc. later
[20:45] <pqwer1> vasi: is there a switch for that?
[20:45] <subbu> dbruns: i guess there is a mismatch with md5 check
[20:45] <logan1> nick125, That's not good. I really want it to open my audio device :P
[20:45] <subbu> dbruns: did you already do the check?
[20:45] <Scunizi> bostrt: did you change any of the config options manually?
[20:46] <nick125> logan1: lsof /dev/snd/controlC1
[20:46] <dbruns> subbu: with the ISO?
[20:46] <mdmkolbe> vasi: in my case the external hard drive is going to be my backup of my user data durring the reformat
[20:46] <bostrt> Scunizi: yes i am using an alternate port
[20:46] <mythguy> How do I access my Windows files?
[20:46] <subbu> dbruns: yes
[20:46] <bostrt> Scunizi: but that is it
[20:46] <dbruns> subbu: yes
[20:46] <logan1> nick125, pastebin that output too?
[20:46] <binod> i am trying to install ubuntu 9.10 by bootable pendrive. but i am not able to change the  BIOS booting order. once i change the booting order to USB  hard drive , it automatically boots  from hard-drive.
[20:46] <Scunizi> bostrt: also are you doing this inside your lan or from outside
[20:46] <subbu> dbruns: was there any mismatch?
[20:46] <nick125> logan1: yes
[20:46] <logan1> nick125, http://paste.ubuntu.com/305367/
[20:46] <bostrt> Scunizi: i am on a university network
[20:46] <Scunizi> bostrt: that is.. are both machines in the same lan?
[20:46] <Diddleha> vasi: Is it IBm that makes the "landscape" things ? It just crashed, but i seem to have to login somewhere i dont have an account (Yuck, for this bugreporting thing)
[20:46] <DesertEagle> any reason for sound applet thing to respond slowly?
[20:47] <dbruns> subbu:  not that I noticed... why?
[20:47] <wsg> hi, can anyone help me with an audio problem on ubuntu kk? my microphone doesn't work, instead loudspeakera have no problems
[20:47] <lws> Hey, I just tried to dist-upgrade to karmic and it failed somewhere halfway :/
[20:47] <RhysTM>  anyone know how to get pptp working in 9.10
[20:47] <lws> Now my system is f00bar
[20:47] <bostrt> Scunizi: i believe, i'm not sure how the network is setup here. I know they are on same subnet
[20:47] <bright> digital-route: I don't see alsa in the sound options. Could you help a little more? Thanks :)
[20:47] <vasi> mdmkolbe, also if you have windows installed, you can use wubi to install without a disk at all
[20:47] <pqwer1> lws: it did for me too.. and when I reran it, it continued from where it left off
[20:47] <lws> Anyone know any magical repair techniques?   I'm booted from live cd and have chrooted on to my old system and tried to get dpkg to fix it -- but no avail.
[20:47] <nick125> logan1: Hmm. I'd try a reboot, just for kicks and giggles.
[20:47] <Scunizi> bostrt: ah.. the Univ. might be blocking a ton of ports
[20:47] <sam_> what's the feature on ubuntu-9.10
[20:47] <subbu> if there is a mismatch then you will not be able to do an installation correctly
[20:47] <Diddleha> vasi: Are the crash logs saved somewhere possibly for bugbuddy ?
[20:47] <subbu> you will face lot of problem
[20:47] <pqwer1> lws: I'm so having fun with this :S
[20:47] <pqwer1> not
[20:47] <logan1> nick125, Okay, back in a flash. :P
[20:47] <blackxored> how can I change keyboard layout from the console in ubuntu??? can't remember
[20:47] <vasi> Diddleha, no idea, sorry, ask the channel
[20:48] <dbruns> subbu: i can't even get it to boot the CD
[20:48] <crazyboy11> When I boot ubuntu instead of getting a GUI I seem to get what looks like a terminal asking me to log in, how can i boot in a safe graphics mode?
[20:48] <dbruns> subbu: it will boot to CD on another box
[20:48] <lws> pqwer1: I wish it had fixed it for me... :/
[20:48] <bostrt> Scunizi: i tryed port 22 for a short time and it still did not work
[20:48] <subbu> dbruns: oh!
[20:48] <Diddleha> vasi: They saw the question, thx though.
[20:48] <fokuslee302> Q: hi did anyone install 9.10 on fake / bios raid? can you confirm the process the guide on fakeraidhowto only cover 9.04
[20:48] <Scunizi> bostrt: can you port scan the ip of the machine you're trying to reach and see if you can get to it that way
[20:48] <dan___> Scunizi he needed to set root in grub2
[20:48] <pqwer1> crazyboy11: tat's my question as well :)
[20:48] <dan___> Scunizi then he booted right up... weird
[20:48] <nick125> fokuslee302: Why are you installing on fakeraid?
[20:48] <Scunizi> dan___: yep .. strange
[20:48] <dbruns> subbu: i have a 9.04 server CD it won't boot too also... just looking for tips on what to look for.. i changed the boot order, disabled the hard drive for boot sequence, etc  and it still won't boot to the CD
[20:48] <norrec> so how is the compatibility of the 64 bit version these days. When i used it a couple years back most of the stuff didnt work, and i had to compile pretty much everything myself.
[20:48] <fokuslee302> nick125, i need to dual boot windows
[20:48] <Kroptax> i installed ubuntu on a separate partition when i had windows vista installed, and ive been using the grub bootloader to boot into vista/linux, but now i just upgraded to windows 7 and the bootloader is gone so i cant boot into linux any more... how can i get the grub bootloader back ?
[20:48] <subbu> dbruns: one more question, when you brun the CD do you use the high speed or the lowest speed?
[20:49] <bostrt> Scunizi: I ssh'd into a machine in another location that works fine and port scanned the computer i am trying to ssh into and the port is filtered
[20:49] <blackxored> anyone?
[20:49] <mdmkolbe> vasi: the computer has an old version of ubuntu (that I plan to trash when I reformat) on it right now (though I'm considering making it a dual boot with windows, so I might go the install windows first route)
[20:49] <Scunizi> bostrt: set it up for a different port
[20:49] <fokuslee302> nick125, also too cheap to by 3ware HAHA
[20:49] <bostrt> Scunizi: when i portscan localhost on the comptuer i am trying to getinto the port is open
[20:49] <subbu> dbruns: oh then it looks like it is not the issue with CD
[20:49] <zleap> Kroptax, you may be able to boot from live cd and reinstall the bootloader from that
[20:49] <lws> pqwer1: What did you do to restart it?   I'm just trying to apt-get dist-upgrade
[20:49] <dbruns> subbu: right ;-)
[20:49] <Scunizi> bostrt: that's not a good test..
[20:49] <nick125> fokuslee302: Can you setup a fakeraid for Windows and use software RAID for Ubuntu?
[20:49] <pqwer1> lws: I was using the alternate install cd
[20:49] <Kroptax> zleap i dont have a cd.. i downloaded it
[20:49] <bostrt> Scunizi: okay, im going to change port, brb
[20:50] <purplefool> hey all, just updated to 9.10 and fixed my graphics problem but now am having trouble with internet...it works but takes a long time to call up the page.  has anyone else this problem too?
[20:50] <Scunizi> bostrt: try one above 2000
[20:50] <vasi> mdmkolbe, if you already have grub installed, you can probably install directly from an iso file
[20:50] <vasi> mdmkolbe, google for "iso-scan/filename"
[20:50] <lws> pqwer1: What's that do?
[20:50] <epinky> blackxored: Check out setxkbmap
[20:50] <Scunizi> bostrt: don't forget you have to restart the ssh server to use the new port
[20:51] <afallenhope> I shtere a reason as to why Ubuntu devlopers decided to give Karmic a "mobile" look?
[20:51] <logan1> nick125, back, lemme try the video :P
[20:51] <pqwer1> lws: lets you use the cd as a repository
[20:51] <mdmkolbe> vasi: thanks, that looks like how I'll want to do it
[20:51] <bright> Could anyone else help me enable alsa? Can't find it...
[20:51] <fokuslee302> nick125, im not sure what process that will be, put /boot on a single disk ? how bout the MBR grub will see the bios raid?
[20:51] <logan1> nick125, Right, colors are still fine, still no sound though.
[20:51] <lws> pqwerl: Hmm.   Well I have the net right now anyways, so it should be good if I could get these dependencies to resolve.
[20:51] <geysser> After upgrading to Karmic Koala and Amarok 2.2, local collection shows 0 tracks.Any idea why that happens?Appreciate your help!
[20:52] <vasi> mdmkolbe, good luck, tell me how it goes
[20:52] <pqwer1> lws: what happenes if you restart dist-upgrade?
[20:52] <areay> hello, i just upgraded to karmic, and during the 'boot experience' my monitor tells me the input is out of range... how can i fix this?
[20:52] <lws> pqwer1: It halts because of too many errors
[20:52] <ManiS> is there any way for me to use the unichrome driver in 9.10?
[20:52] <bostrt> Scunizi: okay i think it is the school's network not letting any traffic into my computer
[20:52] <dAlfa89_> Is there a keyboard shortcut to open a terminal?
[20:52] <DesertEagle> no
[20:52] <DesertEagle> but you can make one!
[20:52] <bostrt> Scunizi: i can sign on to a server here at school then ssh into my computer fine
[20:53] <lws> pqwerl: I'd like to just force upgrade all the packages.   There shouldn't be any conflicts once -- and I"m booted from the live CD now anyways since it fubared everything
[20:53] <nick125> logan1: hmm. pavucontrol still shows no devices?
[20:53] <Halabund> Hi!  Since upgrading to Karmic (from Jaunty), DNS lookup are slow as hell for the first time.  They take around 15-20 second.  The problem appears only when I connect through a VPN (which is practically all the time since this is the only way I can access the internet at this university).  I tried disabling ipv6, but it didn't help.  Interestingly not all programs are affected, but Firefox, Chrome, apt-get and Synaptic do have the problem.  XCh
[20:53] <Halabund> at doesn't.  Does anyone know how to fix this?  It makes Karmic almost unusable for me
[20:53] <dAlfa89_> DesertEagle, I can't, Compiz just died, taking most everything with it, save for IRC ):
[20:53] <ricklerre> Hey all, I tried to install linux-server kernel on a desktop install of karmic, but it didn't boot into that kernel and the option doesn't appear on the grub menu, is there something further that I need to do?
[20:53] <Scunizi> bostrt: universities lock down a lot
[20:54] <bostrt> Scunizi: yea, it's such a pain to have to ssh into one machine to get to another
[20:54] <DesertEagle> dAlfa89_ Keyboard Shortcuts
[20:54] <mlissner> is anybody else noticing that OO looks like crap on karmic? I have strange black boxes all over the screen....
[20:54] <lws> Halaband: That's not a karmic problem likely.   You probably have your regular DNS as your first entry in resolv.conf which is no longer accessible due to the VPN.    It has to time out before it moves on
[20:54] <mlissner> and by OO, I mean OpenOffice.org...
[20:54] <logan1> nick125, Nope.
[20:54] <lws> Halaband:   I've had similar problems when NOT connected to VPN due to the remote DNS being inserted first.
[20:54] <lws> Halaband: Make sense?
[20:54] <Scunizi> mlissner: probably your video card driver
[20:54] <jthing> OK. I am using ubuntu 9.10
[20:54] <Halabund> lws, it's 'Halabund' (use tab completion).  (I'm saying that just so I don't miss your replies)
[20:55] <Mnemonic> Hi .. I am SOOO Frustrated. I cannot boot on the Ubuntu 9.10 netbook remix Live CD on my LG X110. The screen just turns blank while booting. I trued a number of different USB keys, and the Wubi installation too.... It does not work.. Any help will be appriciated.
[20:55] <jthing> sound doesn't work
[20:55] <pqwer1> lws: have you done a simple update, upgrade? as your repositories have probably been modified
[20:55] <epinky> blackxored: if you don't have X then: man loadkeys
[20:55] <jthing> but apperenty chat does
[20:55] <lws> Halabund: Terribly sorry, I've got my comp hooked up to a crappy TV at the moment.
[20:55] <mlissner> Scunizi, no, it's only in OpenOffice.org...it's like the GUI hinting is programmed wrong with the theme or something.
[20:55] <crohakon> What are the advantages of running your own DNS server?
[20:55] <areay> Mnemonic, welcome to the new 'boot experience'
[20:55] <lws> pqwerl: Yeahp
[20:55] <crohakon> oops, wrong channel
[20:55] <Trezker> Hi, I have a pulseaudio issue
[20:56] <logan1> Trezker, Do tell :D
[20:56] <th1> Mnemonic, it worked on all the laptops and Pc's I tried it on. how did you create the USB stick? using the tool inside Karmic or inside Jaunty?
[20:56] <pydroid> i can't find the 'quit' button like in jaunty anymore... except ctrl-alt-del, anyone know where to locate it? (netbook remix)
[20:56] <Trezker> When I mark pulseaudio for complete removal, it also removes ubuntu-desktop
[20:56] <logan1> Trezker, I'm having one too.
[20:56] <Halabund> lws, I didn't mess with DNS settings.  Everything worked fine with Jaunty (and it works fine in Windows).  The first entry in resolv.conf is actually from the VPN.
[20:56] <jthing> Trezker, me to
[20:56] <logan1> Trezker, Not having that one :P
[20:56] <Trezker> is that something I need or can just not give a *?
[20:56] <Mnemonic> th1: I tryed the tool for windows on the ISO, and the 3-party they recommend on the webpage.
[20:56] <jthing> I reistalled alsa, no joy
[20:57] <lws> Halabund: There's no logical reason why DNS would be slow over VPN unless it's trying to use the wrong DNS server.
[20:57] <Scunizi> Trezker: it's just a meta package.. wont' hurt anything
[20:57] <lws> Halabund: Do you still have a jaunty install to test it?   It could just be their DNS is acting up coincidentally.
[20:57] <th1> Mnemonic, maybe the tool has problems with the karmic image. it works with the USB creator inside Karmic and Jaunty
[20:57] <lws> Halabund: Or windows even
[20:57] <innomen> where is the data for the top bar located?
[20:57] <Diddleha> vasi: Why isnt the built in GNU/MC editor used in UBUNTU ? /Its not usable to code with as is.
[20:58] <jthing> Carma, anear death experiences aside
[20:58] <th1> Mnemonic, if you have a real machine with ubuntu (or that can boot from LiveCD) try creating the USB stick from in there
[20:58] <vasi> Diddleha, why do you keep asking me?
[20:58] <Mnemonic> th1: I allso tryed Wubi in Windows .. :( ???
[20:58] <Scunizi> Diddleha: what editor are you looking for?
[20:58] <th1> Mnemonic, a guy from the office had created a USB stick with the windows tool and it couldn't run the installer (but could boot ok though), and running "check media" didn't show any errors
[20:58] <jthing> Anyone here have a 9.10 version in which SOUND actually works?
[20:58] <Diddleha> vasi: Oh, sorry.. was unaware you frowned upon it :=)
[20:58] <_Techie_> Mnemonic, have you tried using unetbootin from windows to creata a live USB?
[20:58] <Trezker> ah, awesome. youtube has sound again
[20:58] <lws> pqwerl: Okay I think I see what's going on, there's a bunch of half installed packages that are not configured.   Update refuses to continue
[20:58] <th1> Mnemonic, sorry I don't know much about the various Windows tools since I rarely use Win
[20:58] <Mnemonic> th1: Check media does the same .. Black screen
[20:59] <talha> I just upgraded (or tried to) to karmic via "do-release-upgrade", I'm getting problems with package nvidia-185-kernel-source :<
[20:59] <Halabund> lws: I checked the the settings in Windows, and it seems to use the same DNS servers as Karmic, in the same order.  Actually Karmic also has the 3 old DNS servers (which are not from the VPN) listed at the end of resolv.conf.  I don't have Jaunty any more, I upgraded it to Karmic.  Does the system try to use the DNS servers in the same order as they appear in resolv.conf?
[20:59] <logan1> I'd really like to get my sound working.
[20:59] <logan1> :P
[20:59] <blaz_> th1: was he trying to put 'alternate install CD' on the usb?
[20:59] <vasi> Diddleha, it's ok if we're already talking about something related....but if it's something completely random, i'm not more likely to know than the channel at large
[20:59] <Trezker> and diablo 2 has the sound back too
[20:59] <talha> exec error when installing or removing via any dpkg util
[20:59] <jthing> Seeems to me 9.10 is a bit of a turkey
[20:59] <logan1> jthing, it's a bit buggy :D
[20:59] <th1> blaz_, no it was the ordinary live CD .. when you got to the "select language" thing it would just freeze there with the "waiting" mouse pointer forever
[21:00] <verylazyguy> where is the option to have my screen flash from a system bell in karmic???
[21:00] <pqwer1> jthing: I agree :(
[21:00] <Trezker> So, why is Ubuntu so deermined to keep pulseaudio all the time?
[21:00] <DesertEagle> where is vlc? i upgraded, launched it.... but it won't show up
[21:00] <pqwer1> jthing: no sound for you, no display for me
[21:00] <Alien_Freak> anyone know how I get around this:  Removing libapache2-mod-python ...    /var/lib/dpkg/info/libapache2-mod-python.postrm: 7: a2dismod: not found
[21:00] <Halabund> lws, and a strange thing is that not all programs are affected.  XCHat connects very quickly.  Unfortunately Firefox and apt-get are affected.
[21:00] <unimatrix> jthing: i've got 3 different sound cards and they all work in 9.10... but i did have to configure one manually in daemon.conf
[21:00] <nick125> logan1: alsamixer -c0 no go?
[21:00] <Scunizi> verylazyguy: probably under Assistive Technologies in System>Prefereneces
[21:00] <logan1> nick125, no go.
[21:00] <th1> Trezker, I don't know, and with the state of PulseAudio it should be possible to deselect it, unfortunately in Karmic even the volume control applet depends on it so you're pretty screwed if you decide to nuke it
[21:01] <Diddleha> PLEASE HAVE UBUNTU COME WITH A VERSION OF GNU/MC WE CAN USE TO CODE WITH :=) /Yeah yeah etc... :)
[21:01] <talha> Anyone got an nvidia card working in 9.10?
[21:01] <fokuslee302> so im reading this if i use alternative install cd dmraid is already provided and everythign should just work for the bios raid?
[21:01] <pqwer1> lws: dpkg-reconfigure etc. might be the ticket
[21:01] <lws> Halabund: that is weird.   I wonder if Karmic added some other place programs get DNS information...?
[21:01] <talha> using proprietary drivers
[21:01] <unimatrix> talha: yup me
[21:01] <Halabund> lws, that's what my resolv.conf looks like. http://pastebin.com/d3dd46744
[21:01] <dAlfa89_> talha, yep
[21:01] <blaz_> th1: umh. I've used unetbootin to put mini.iso which worked, but alternate install cd will not work from
[21:01] <guntbert> !shout | Diddleha
[21:01] <logan1> nick125, http://paste.ubuntu.com/305379/
[21:01] <talha> I just upgraded via do-release-upgrade
[21:01] <blaz_> th1: umh. I've used unetbootin to put mini.iso which worked, but alternate install cd did not work from usb
[21:01] <talha> and everything is falling apart
[21:01] <Trezker> I don't use the volume control applet though, I have a knob on my speakers
[21:01] <lws> pqwer1: thats what I wanted.   I was trying dpkg --configure -a
[21:01] <veneficuz> Hi, I'm having some problems installing from the Alternate Xubuntu disk. It stops at "Setting users and passwords 26%". In /var/log/syslog it says "user-setup: Done", but after that nothing happens. Anyone know how to fix this?
[21:01] <logan1> nick125, that's what I get when I try to reload alsa.
[21:01] <Halabund> lws, the 129.* are from the VPN.  ipconfig /all in Windows lists the same two DNS servers for the VPN
[21:01] <dAlfa89_> talha, that seems to be the pattern for 9.10 at the moment  \:
[21:02] <talha> Yay :/
[21:02] <drbobb> hello, could someone please help me find some clue?? suspend/hibernate stopped working altogether on my laptop a few days ago. at first after installing the karmic beta it worked, but stopped (after some update?)
[21:02] <th1> blaz_, well I didn't investigate it further, I just verified it did what he said and hten I gave him one of my usb sticks to install from :)
[21:02] <jthing> I already mentioned reistalling also with no success
[21:02] <talha> Any way to revert to jaunty?
[21:02] <nick125> logan1: Are you reloading it as root (i.e., sudo)
[21:02] <DesertEagle> ditto!
[21:02] <th1> talha, only reinstall I'm afraid
[21:02] <Scunizi> Diddleha: midnight commander is in the repos.. just install it.. sudo apt-get install mc
[21:02] <guntbert> and Diddleha: this is not a channel where you will find many ubuntu developpers/packagers - so please submit a bug report
[21:02] <verylazyguy> how do I get the old sound preferences window back?
[21:02] <DesertEagle> >_O where's VLC?
[21:02] <dgfitch> Trying to get console tty framebuffer resolution increased; the old grub0 vga= method is obsolete, but nothing in the wiki or forums are really helping me out... I can get the grub2 menu to a higher resolution, but not the console
[21:02] <talha> Woo
[21:02] <logan1> nick125, good point. Less errors :D
[21:02] <talha> Should be fun :/
[21:02] <th1> talha, why do you need to revert?
[21:03] <logan1> nick125, http://paste.ubuntu.com/305384/
[21:03] <jthing> another midnight commander user!
[21:03] <talha> Because X won't launch
[21:03] <th1> talha, ok that's a good enough reason I guess ;)
[21:03] <epinky> logan1: Sound card model?
[21:03] <talha> And I can't use dpkg at all
[21:03] <logan1> epinky, onboard intel sound.
[21:03] <nick125> logan1: Does alsamixer work now?
[21:03] <talha> I'm in recovery mode atm, using irssi
[21:03] <th1> talha, surely there's something else wrong with the system then
[21:03] <logan1> nick125, nope.
[21:03] <Halabund> lws, also, the third and fifth server don't work when I'm connected to the VPN (I tried testing them with nslookup.  I hope I did it right.  Using nslookup was a bit confusing)  So there are (may be) two DNS servers that don't work.  Maybe it's trying to use them for some reason.
[21:03] <lws> pqwerl: Fail.    It seems I'm in some lalaland where packages refuse to be configured because of dependency problems, and packages refuse to install because stuff hasn't been configured yet.
[21:03] <logan1> nick125: alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory
[21:03] <jthing> Sound on my systenm is buildt i on the card
[21:03] <talha> It's nvidia-185-kernel-source
[21:03] <foo> hm, how can I remux a file via command line in linux? what tool would you recommend?
[21:03] <jthing> in
[21:04] <lws> Halabund: "host" is easier to use FYI.
[21:04] <epinky> logan1: lspci ?
[21:04] <th1> talha, try installing the 190 driver from nvidia's page
[21:04] <logan1> epinky, Err?
[21:04] <Halabund> lws, I wonder if it's possible to edit resolv.conf by hand.  Does anyone know if this is possible and if it is necessary to do anything special to make the settings take effect?
[21:04]  * talha has a go
[21:04] <talha> Brb
[21:04] <jthing> I have a nvidea graphics board as well a 7300 model
[21:04] <Halabund> lws, Thanks, I'll take a look at man host
[21:04] <fokuslee302> Q: ok how about this, i have 4 gig ram so i just make 512mb of swap is enough right?
[21:04] <innomen> YEESSSSS!!!!
[21:04] <logan1> epinky, I'm versed enough to tinker with my menu.lst but that's sorta where my expertise ends, beyond that, I need sorta... straight directions and questions. Else I have no idea what I'm doing.
[21:04] <lws> Halabund: It's very possible, that's what I was suggesting.   Hypothetically the dns libaries read it whenever a program is launched
[21:04] <Scunizi> Halabund: yes you can.. and you'll have to restar the network for it to take effect
[21:05] <lws> Halabund: So if you connect to vpn and leave firefox on you would have problems... for example.
[21:05] <innomen> http://guvcview.berlios.de/downloads.html <-----< that is what i was lookign for
[21:05] <Diddleha> Scunizi, guntbert: Problem is its unusable as is. The Fedora thing works much better but its suffereing from a destroyer from Germany as it seems.
[21:05] <lws> Halabund: Man resolv.conf, it's format is really trivial
[21:05] <DasEi> !test
[21:05] <DesertEagle> oh God!
[21:05] <DesertEagle> he's aliiiiiiiiive
[21:06] <DesertEagle> O_O RUUUUN
[21:06] <FloodBot3> DesertEagle: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:06] <epinky> logan1: sudo lspci -v
[21:06] <Scunizi> innomen: looks interesting
[21:06] <Diddleha> !test !test !titties
[21:06] <Diddleha> :)
[21:06] <[manas]> th1, mate u still alive???
[21:06] <fokuslee302> votebay Diddleha LOL
[21:06] <fokuslee302> voteban*
[21:06] <jeffery> In 9.10, which package includes sshfs?
[21:06] <innomen> Scunizi, it is the best video capture for ubuntu, easily
[21:07] <logan1> epinky, http://paste.ubuntu.com/305387/
[21:07] <guntbert> Diddleha: what is your real problem?
[21:07] <epinky> logan1: It's importan to know which chipset is
[21:07] <verylazyguy> jeffery: try the package "sshfs"
[21:07] <logan1> epinky, I understand that. I had no idea about this command :D
[21:07] <talha> No luck
[21:07] <verylazyguy> alternatively, you can type "sshfs" on the command line and it will tell you which package it's in
[21:08] <Diddleha> guntbert: Well, i cant code using MC natively on Ubuntu because its not using the correct internal editor. The one you use is not usable at all now (Press F4 on a file, edit and save it)
[21:08] <addisonj> hm, anyone anyone else have a problem with left click not working in the alpha for 64bit flash?
[21:08] <innomen> i never did find it via google, i ended up looking at every file in my home directory searching for a config file named like the app
[21:08] <innomen> it totally worked heh
[21:09] <epinky> logan1: what "aplay -l" says?
[21:09] <Scunizi> innomen: that's one way to skin a cat :)
[21:09] <logan1> epinky, aplay: device_list:223: no soundcards found...
[21:09] <unimatrix> addisonj: works fine here... any particular flash website where this occurs for you?
[21:09] <desko> mame ciao a tutti
[21:10] <innomen> Scunizi, is there someway i can share this with people? like put it on a !webcam for the bot or something? because i'm nto kidding it is an awesome application
[21:10] <addisonj> all flash websites
[21:10] <fokuslee302> Q: ok how about this, i have 4 gig ram so i just make 512mb of swap is enough right? also does the 32bit version support 4 gig of ram?
[21:10] <addisonj> or content i should say
[21:10] <Diddleha> guntbert: See if you can have another compile/version included by default. Id appreciate that very much.
[21:10] <logan1> innomen, Oh, you found something? What did you find?
[21:10] <epinky> logan1: http://www.linuxant.com/alsa-driver/
[21:10] <PlasmaSheep> I can't upgrade to 9.10 from 9.04. I get this error message: http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/2994/screenshot001g.png
[21:10] <Trezker> anyone, a volume control I can use after removing pulseaudio?
[21:10] <addisonj> just quit working when i moved to the beta of 9.04
[21:10] <innomen> logan1,  http://guvcview.berlios.de/downloads.html
[21:10] <innomen> it should be shipped with ubuntu, seriously
[21:10] <guntbert> Diddleha: well - I guess I never used the internal editor of mc - always switched to vim, so I'll be no big help there - sorry - but in earnest: file a bug against mc on launchpad
[21:10] <jeffery> verylazyguy:  this is what I get:
[21:11] <DarK``> hi all. I just installed Ubuntu Netbook Remix 9.10 on my EEEpc. Is there a way to switch off the default UNR interface and get the default gnome interface?
[21:11] <Scunizi> innomen: you can put it on www.ubuntuforums.org and if you can find an appropriate location in the community docs section of the ubuntu website
[21:11] <guntbert> !bug | Diddleha
[21:11] <jeffery> sshfs tells me to install sshfs.
[21:11] <innomen> Scunizi, i'm banned formt eh forums
[21:11] <epinky> slogan1: install it
[21:11] <chriz_> hello together
[21:11] <Diddleha> guntbert: Theres nothing wrong with the MC, it just need a dustoff and return to the roads as we say ;)
[21:11] <jeffery> apt-get install sshfs says sshfs command not found
[21:11] <omar> hiii
[21:11] <logan1> epinky, This is for a modem?
[21:11] <omar> i have ubuntu 9.10 the RC
[21:11] <epinky> nope
[21:11] <logan1> epinky: ALSA driver enhanced for Conexant HDA modem support
[21:11] <innomen> Scunizi, pity too, there ar a bunch of people begging for a capture app suggestion other than cheese
[21:11] <epinky> ok ok
[21:12] <omar> I have the 9.10 RC what i have to do to upgrade to the final version ?
[21:12] <archy008> can somebody help me please? after updating I get this error un startup - OAFID:GNOME_FastUserSwitchApple...
[21:12] <jeffery> package manager can't find sshfs either
[21:12] <epinky> logan1: just try
[21:12] <IndyGunFreak> omar, im pertty sure if your system is up to date... then you're up to date
[21:12] <Diddleha> guntbert: As a developer i expect this will be fixed.
[21:12] <guntbert> Diddleha: I understand - but there are mainly two ways to reach this goal: do it yourself - or - file a bug
[21:12] <Scunizi> DarK``: check out http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-laptop-and-netbook-25/other-designs-for-netbooks-762706/
[21:12] <speedxxx1ore> what is the terminal command to search for files?
[21:12] <logan1> epinky, It failed to install.
[21:12] <test34> speedxxx1ore, locate
[21:13] <Scunizi> speedxxx1ore: first "sudo updatedb" then locate <file>
[21:13] <Diddleha> guntbert: I have compiled it myself for the past years (Since it got borked). Its time to make it work again.
[21:13] <epinky> logan1: did you unzip it right?
[21:13] <DarK``> Scunizi: so I need desktop-switcher. I'll try installing it. Thanks a lot :)
[21:13] <logan1> epinky, using the .deb file.
[21:13] <Scunizi> innomen: baned? why?
[21:13] <talha> exit
[21:13] <guntbert> Diddleha: so submit the patch :)
[21:13] <talha> my bad >.<
[21:13] <Diddleha> guntbert: You see its useless as an editor right ?
[21:13] <junior__> hi. my gma 500 not function correctly. help me
[21:13] <Scunizi> DarK``: good luck!
[21:14] <epinky> logan1: error?
[21:14] <strywgr> mkk hogaye
[21:14] <chriz_> i have a soundproblem with my dell precision m90 notebook... i cant regulate the loudness (only off - extrem loud - more extream loud)... with lspci | grep -i audio i found the chip 82021G from Intel... can somebody help me ?
[21:14] <speedxxx1ore> Scunizi: test34: thanx
[21:14] <logan1> epinky, good question, let me find. Can't copypaste from the system.
[21:14] <Diddleha> guntbert: Problem is, that patch will bork German "Umlauts". Im willing to code with someone though.
[21:14] <Diddleha> guntbert: We need unity in this area
[21:14] <strywgr> Is their anyway I can upgrade using th CD instead of downloading?
[21:14] <jo1993> I'm installing for the first time. Have a windows vista system. I thought it automatically transferred my preferences and my desktop, including wallpaper. I didn't. How do I do this?
[21:14] <guntbert> Diddleha: this is way off toic now - I never used that editor so I could not say if it was useful or useless
[21:15] <guntbert> *off topic
[21:15] <test34> Does the netbook remix also include the standard desktop drivers?
[21:15] <logan1> epinky, http://paste.ubuntu.com/305394/
[21:15] <ubuntu_> hello
[21:15] <Appiah> In the latest karmic kernel ,my network card is not working and the same with my wlan card. If I select the older kernel It works but I dont have any sound. How can I fix the network?
[21:15] <ne0_> hi
[21:15] <xlq> Anyone know where I can find rastertoz600?
[21:15] <Diddleha> guntbert: I have coded about 15 applications for GNU/other free oses using it. Its good if i dont have to waste time correcting bugs
[21:16] <Diddleha> guntbert: Do i have a point ?
[21:16] <jo1993> If this is not the place to ask questions about installation, where is the right place?
[21:16] <ubuntu_> i'm install 9.10 yesterday and cant seem to get the nvidia driver working
[21:16] <epinky> logan1: you need kernel sources
[21:16] <PlasmaSheep> I can't upgrade to 9.10 from 9.04. I get this error message: http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/2994/screenshot001g.png
[21:16] <junior__> Hey guys, my netbook ao1 not work correctly... there an driver for intel gma 500?
[21:16] <strywgr> !nvidia
[21:16] <logan1> epinky, how do I get those?
[21:16] <guntbert> Diddleha: :-) - but we are off topic
[21:16] <ubuntu_> i tried 185 that ubuntu recommened first
[21:16] <logan1> epinky, and what is it exactly that I'm doing?
[21:16] <DarK``> Scunizi: desktop-switcher isnt found in the repositories.
[21:16] <MrSchmo> for the upgrade to 9.10 is anyone having issue with flash? i cant right click into flash setting and when watching youtube, i cant interact with the menu, fastward, replay and etc
[21:17] <ubuntu_> when i re booted the screen would onlt flash
[21:17] <test34> jo1993, why do you say it's not the place?
[21:17] <guntbert> PlasmaSheep: the other way round?
[21:17] <Scunizi> DarK``: are you using synaptic?
[21:17] <kubuntuser> I need some help with my laptop. Every once in a while the laptop (I think the screen) makes a popping sound. It normally happens on big screen changes like turning on or shutting off. I now found that it makes the sound every time I start warzone2100 (it is in window mode). Does anyone know what could be going on?
[21:17] <DarK``> Scunizi: yes.
[21:17] <m0los> Having really really low audio with the upgrade from working 04 to 10, what could be the problem? Speakers are maxed, volume controll on the system is not respoding
[21:17] <Diddleha> guntbert: Alrighty, now... a terrible thing will befall things if the MC params arent considered.
[21:17] <strywgr> ubuntu_ : try downloading the drivers from Nvidia website.
[21:17] <Diddleha> :)
[21:17] <DarK``> Scunizi: but I also tried command line, no luck though.
[21:17] <PlasmaSheep> guntbert: what
[21:17] <Diddleha> Muhahah
[21:17] <Scunizi> DarK``: just type switcher in the search bar.. I found it
[21:17] <ajunior> Hey guys, my netbook ao1 not work correctly... there an driver for intel gma 500?
[21:17] <ENOEHT> can someone help me configure pulseaudio in xubuntu 9.10
[21:17] <jo1993> Because I see a lot of very techie talk but nothing for newbies
[21:17] <Guest78291> does x11 use DRI itself?
[21:18] <PlasmaSheep> guntbert: yeah, sorry
[21:18] <test34> I'm going back to 32bit now that the final version is out
[21:18] <Scunizi> DarK``: or install with sudo apt-get install desktop-switcher
[21:18] <Guest78291> for window drawing, does x11 use DRI
[21:18] <guntbert> PlasmaSheep: sorry, I misread your question
[21:18] <PlasmaSheep> guntbert: wait, it's right :P
[21:18] <logan1> jo1993, Just ask the questions, I'm a newbie too. :) And eventually you get help.
[21:18] <DarK``> Scunizi: it doesnt here. Only results for "switcher" are byobu and gnome-applets.
[21:18] <Guest78291> aa\
[21:18] <logan1> jo1993, it takes a minute.
[21:18] <christopherolah_> kubuntuser:  That isn't necessarily something to worry about. Some monitors just do that.
[21:19] <jo1993> logan1: thx
[21:19] <kubuntuser> christopherolah_: it is only in linux
[21:19] <DarK``> Scunizi: tried that, didnt work. The package desktop-switcher is not available, but it referred ot by another package...
[21:19] <Scunizi> DarK``: byobu is a reimplimentation of screen.. not sure what gnome-appelets is.. I'm on 9.04 .. you might be able to download the deb directly from packages.ubuntu.com
[21:19] <kubuntuser> christopherolah_: which means it is a linux software problem. And it scares me to death :-\
[21:19] <Ashfire908> Could someone recommend a intermediate bash scripting tutorial/guide?
[21:19] <batrick> !torrents
[21:19] <ne0_> since the update to ubuntu 9.10 my huawei e169 dont work,
[21:20] <ubuntu__> is there someway to run update-initramfs as part of an install when /proc/modules don't exist?
[21:20] <kubuntuser> Ashfire908: I am looking for it :-)
[21:20] <guntbert> Ashfire908: http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/
[21:20] <kubuntuser> Ashfire908: http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/
[21:20] <kubuntuser> Ashfire908: damn
[21:20] <kubuntuser> I am slow XD
[21:21] <lws> pqwer1: A lot of my package configurations are failing because of not having /proc for my current kernel......
[21:21] <Hans_Henrik> problem: my WLAN card works from longer distance with WinXP than Ubuntu (but else, works correct)
[21:21] <christopherolah_> kubuntuser: If it only happens in Linux, than it probably a fault on that end. Have you tried searching for similar problems with that type of laptop?
[21:21] <Ashfire908> Intermediate = Advanced? lol I already knew about that guide, I was hoping... one sec
[21:21] <kubuntuser> christopherolah_: I can not find anything
[21:22] <kubuntuser> Ashfire908: advanced means it will make you advanced
[21:22] <PlasmaSheep> I can't upgrade to 9.10 from 9.04. I get this error message: http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/2994/screenshot001g.png
[21:22] <christopherolah_> kubuntuser: Sorry, I don't have any idea.
[21:22] <kubuntuser> christopherolah_: no problem
[21:22] <jthing> PlasmaSheep, be glad
[21:22] <Ashfire908> Sorry, power's not stable here. I was hoping for a simpler guide, but that will do.
[21:22] <RenatoSilva> My custom login theme was removed in Karmic!
[21:22] <RenatoSilva> Can't we have custom login screens anymore?
[21:23] <KevinD> o.o
[21:23] <KevinD> Umm
[21:23] <TheCheeze> so we have established that after my karmic upgrade, gnome will not launch URL's into firefox
[21:23] <lws> guess I will use Live CD's proc dir to fool it...
[21:23] <jthing> PlasmaSheep, In my experience sound doesn't work in 9.10
[21:23] <lws> hopefully they're similar kernels...
[21:23] <kubuntuser> Ashfire908: that will teach you everything. If you have a problem you do not understand, ask here or #bash
[21:23] <gpgp> my sound works in 9.10
[21:23] <DarK``> Scunizi: I've just been told the ubuntu devs dropped desktop-switcher due to some issues. Thats why its not included, meaning I'll have to keep using this UNR-interface for now...
[21:23] <nowimproved> with 9.10 you can click buttons in flash for firefox good, like on youtube
[21:23] <Xx1337xX> How come whenever I try updating to ubuntu 9.10 I get the message check internet connection
[21:23] <jthing> I am now living in total silence
[21:24] <lws> what's the base package for gnome?
[21:24] <Scunizi> DarK``: keep looking there may be another way around it.
[21:24] <RenatoSilva> My custom login theme was removed in Karmic!
[21:24] <Xx1337xX> I'm trying to update through update manager
[21:24] <RenatoSilva> Can't we have custom login screens anymore?
[21:24] <test34> nowimproved, do you mean "can't" and on 64 bit version?
[21:24] <jthing> 9.10 is a turkey
 PlasmaSheep, In my experience sound doesn't work in 9.10
[21:24] <dibblego> what command would touch all files recursively?
[21:24] <christopherolah_> Xx1337xX: Are you on the Internet? apt needs Internet access (with a few exceptions) to run.
[21:25] <DasEi> lws: hard to answer, apt-cache search gnome for an overview, gnome-panel is what I guess you look for
[21:25] <PlasmaSheep> That doesn't mean it won't work for me.
[21:25] <guntbert> PlasmaSheep: Xx1337xX you seem both to have the same problem - did you try with a different mirror?
[21:25] <kubuntuser> dibblego: I would make a bash script for that
[21:25] <PlasmaSheep> guntbert: How can I switch mirrors?
[21:25] <Scunizi> lws: it's called gnome.. if you want the whole ubuntu desktop install then it's ubuntu-desktop
[21:25] <RenatoSilva> How to remove an user from the login list without disabling it to log in?
[21:25] <lukasz> hello, anybody got idea wich drivers should I use with ATI Mobility RadeonHD 3650?
[21:25] <LoRe> i've upgraded to karmic, now the gtk libs or so are broken somehow, it's hard to describe so i've created a screencast: http://data.rbfh.de/out-2.ogv (988K)
[21:26] <Welshy-Rob> OFF TOPIC "anyone want to play odst to try to get a vidmaster achievement ???
[21:26] <RenatoSilva> How to customize login screen with another theme?
[21:26] <dibblego> kubuntuser, I think there are more practical languages for scripting than bash, but I'd need to know what command to run
[21:26] <LoRe> somebody an idea?
[21:26] <EvaLuaTe> hello
[21:26] <guntbert> PlasmaSheep: system/administration/software sources: the first page
[21:26] <nowimproved> anyone have problems with flash on 9.10?
[21:26] <DasEi> nowimproved: not so far
[21:26] <test34> nowimproved, ubuntu 64bits?
[21:26] <Larik> nowimproved: except high cpu load, no
[21:26] <kubuntuser> dibblego: bash is extremely practical for small things. I mean a script you can run on one line.
[21:26] <Wildbat> ll
[21:27] <kubuntuser> dibblego: I will make you one quickly
[21:27] <dibblego> kubuntuser, ok ta
[21:27] <nowimproved> DasEi, on youtube videos, flash links are unresponsive unless I click them like 100 times and it is 32bit
[21:27] <Diddleha> LureOfTheTemptress (LoRe): Whaa ?
[21:27] <gpgp> my problems with karmic are wireless and compiz. neither were problems in alpha
[21:27] <PlasmaSheep> guntbert: I'll try that, thanks.
[21:27] <EvaLuaTe> sorry, i got disconected
[21:27] <guntbert> PlasmaSheep: Good luck :-)
[21:28] <strywgr> !lampp
[21:28] <strywgr> !lamp
[21:28] <DasEi> nowimproved: after ensuring the graphics were in order I just installed ubuntu-restricted-extras vlc* mozplugger, then until now it was fine
[21:28] <Fager> Hi all. Just moved from 8.10 to a 9.10 install from scratch.
[21:28] <EvaLuaTe> so, could someone please point me to a tutorial on how to make the grub OS chooser look nicer? (something like this one: http://www.j6o3s6e.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2006/08/Capture-ubugrey.png)
[21:29] <Xx1337xX> Hey is the network down?
[21:29] <Xx1337xX> I can't update through update manager
[21:29] <Xx1337xX> to 9.10
[21:29] <PlasmaSheep> guntbert: I changed the server from "United States" to "Main Server" and it worked.
[21:29] <Fager> can't say I like some of the new features
[21:29] <Xx1337xX> anyone?
[21:29] <alfatau> hello, i've a notebook with a not working cdrom drive. I would like to install ubuntu 9.10 desktop edition, but i would need to boot the installer from a usb pen drive. can you help me? i tried unetbootin-windows-377.exe but the key wasn't bootable as i needed. thank you for your attention
[21:29] <PlasmaSheep> Xx1337xX: <guntbert> PlasmaSheep: system/administration/software sources: the first page
[21:29] <kubuntuser> dibblego: while read file; do touch $file; done < <(find)
[21:29] <nowimproved> anyone know how to disable gdm on 9.10?
[21:29] <guntbert> PlasmaSheep: thx for reporting back
[21:29] <kubuntuser> dibblego: sorry it took so long :-\
[21:30] <kubuntuser> dibblego: that will run touch on all files in the cwd.
[21:30] <Fager> Do anyone know if I can get the indicator applet to sort of blink on happenings?
[21:30] <zooko> Hm.  Why does it take 13 seconds to open an ssh connection to my ubuntu workstation from my mac os 10.4 laptop?
[21:30] <Xx1337xX> Plasma
[21:30] <zooko> It seems like it must be waiting for something that times out after 10 or 13 seconds.
[21:30] <Xx1337xX> what do I need to look in there?
[21:30] <Xx1337xX> It only says something about 9.04
[21:31] <zooko> I don't *remembeR* this happening back when I was running intrepid a few weeks ago.
[21:31] <millertimek1a2m3> i'm trying to upgrade with a cd and the upgrade dialog doesn't show when i put the cd in
[21:31] <millertimek1a2m3> or when I mount the iso file
[21:31] <guntbert> Xx1337xX: choose a different mirror
[21:31] <millertimek1a2m3> i even ran the gksu sh/cdrom/cdromupgrade
[21:31] <millertimek1a2m3> and it isn't working
[21:31] <Xx1337xX> there
[21:31] <mikejet> how do I download the new nvidia drivers?
[21:31] <Xx1337xX> changed it from us server to main server
[21:31] <Xx1337xX> thanks :d
[21:32] <kubuntuser> dibblego: you still here?
[21:32] <nowimproved> you used to be able to disable gdm in the startup applications in 9.0.4 but you cant now
[21:32] <millertimek1a2m3> can anyone help me?
[21:32] <kb9tui> hello all.
[21:33] <SnakDoc> kb9tui:  hey
[21:33] <kubuntuser> !hi | kb9tui
[21:33] <guntbert> PlasmaSheep: just for the future: maybe you could have gotten a quicker response by explicitly telling your problem (instead of pointing to an image)
[21:33] <karmic_police> anyone have 9.10 64 bit?
[21:33] <kubuntuser> karmic_police: I do
[21:34] <Kate> Anybody able to help with this install error? It's giving me "Can't have a partition outside the disk!" ... Picture a paste of my partitioning: http://www.pastie.org/677397
[21:34] <karmic_police> ran into any bugs yet? i had a wierd one earlier.. rebooted computer then it only had a white terminal window
[21:34] <karmic_police> had to reinstall
[21:34] <PatrickStarfish> My video driver doesn't work anymore in 9.10, I have switched to vesa driver which works, but I need to have a refresh higher than 60 Hz to avoid headaches. Can I change it?
[21:34] <jiohdi> yesterday no codecs could be found for mp4 flv and flash would not install, today, everything worked fine
[21:35] <videl> hello
[21:35] <Drainy> Evening, is there anyone here that is good with corrupted deb packages that wont uninstall and wont reinstall after an upgrade? (9.04 -> 9.10)
[21:35] <Scunizi> PatrickStarfish: what kind of vid card?
[21:35] <kubuntuser> karmic_police: I have no idea. Mine is running fine.
[21:35] <Royall> Where does banshee store playlists?
[21:35] <karmic_police> cool.. maybe just a corrupt install.. i was messing with compiz and adobe flash
[21:35] <PatrickStarfish> Scunizi: SiS 760 onboard graphics. It freezes up now with the SiS driver.
[21:36] <PatrickStarfish> or does other weird stuff, but if I use the Jaunty kernel to boot with, then it works ok but that breaks sound and other stuff
[21:36] <punzada> Wireless not working for two versions since I've gotten this laptop now, I'm about ready to call it quits.
[21:37] <punzada> >>
[21:37] <Scunizi> PatrickStarfish: gad.. I hate Sis on linux.. check synaptic and see if xserver-xorg-video-sis is installed.. beyond that I'm stumped
[21:37] <jiohdi> I have bin pkg installed from 9.04 on a different partition... can they work if I just change owners?
[21:38] <PatrickStarfish> I know I should buy a real card... unfortunately I gave away my nvidea card to a relative but then I became unemployed, and then the SiS stopped working.
[21:38] <karmic_police> try this for the wireless echo "blacklist rt2800usb" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[21:38] <karmic_police> echo "blacklist rt2800usb" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[21:38] <PatrickStarfish> Scunizi: thanx for your idea
[21:38] <DesertEagle> can someone tell me why VLC runs but doesn't appear anywhere? thanks
[21:38] <PlasmaSheep> guntbert: perhaps :P
[21:38] <Scunizi> PatrickStarfish: ask around to friends and family for somone that has just upgraded their computer.. you might fid a whole machine to canabalize
[21:38] <strywgr> Ubuntu!
[21:39] <mage__> DesertEagle: maybe you changed the default gui
[21:39] <karmic_police> my wireless wasn't working.. i had to do that and it works fine now
[21:39] <PatrickStarfish> (The vesa driver works, but I don't know if I can up the refresh rate with it.)
[21:39] <DesertEagle> mage: nope
[21:39] <kubuntuser> DesertEagle: did you try killing and restarting vlc?
[21:39] <mage__> DesertEagle: run it from a terminal and see what happens
[21:39] <DesertEagle> just upgraded
[21:39] <BLACK_MAN> Hello fellow ubuntu users
[21:39] <BLACK_MAN> black man here
[21:39] <DesertEagle> kubuntuser: yes
[21:39] <Royall> Anyone know anything about Banshee? I transfered over my /home/ folder to another computer and now Banshee thinks all my music files are in ~/Music instead of where they really are
[21:39] <mage__> the cryptic errors are usually googleable
[21:39] <BLACK_MAN> Royall
[21:39] <BLACK_MAN> yes i can help you
[21:39] <PatrickStarfish> Scunizi: thanks, that's a good idea too
[21:39] <guntbert> !ot | BLACK_MAN
[21:39] <BLACK_MAN> Royall
[21:39] <BLACK_MAN> are you there?
[21:39] <DesertEagle> mage__: [0x8cc6c40] qt4 interface error: Could not connect to X server
[21:39] <Tomas_> #ubuntu.si
[21:39] <Royall> BLACK_MAN: uh sure
[21:39] <pteague> is there something wrong with keyserver.ubuntu.com ?
[21:40] <zsquareplusc-liv> no IRC client is installed on the live cd? how to get help then...
[21:40] <guntbert> Tomas_: its /j #ubuntu-si
[21:40] <Tomas_> yeah thanks
[21:40] <BLACK_MAN> Royall
[21:40] <BLACK_MAN> Okay what you need to do to fix that is very simple
[21:40] <jar> Chrome's fake GTK scrollbar is annoying me.
[21:40] <jar> ugh
[21:40] <BLACK_MAN> are you familiar with the ORT-9a subset protocol?
[21:40] <PatrickStarfish> zsquareplusc-liv you can use empathy for IRC, that's what I'm using
[21:40] <guntbert> BLACK_MAN: please stop
[21:40] <BLACK_MAN> its very basic stuff
[21:40] <zsquareplusc-liv> any one else having a failure with karmic live and two monitors?
[21:41] <BLACK_MAN> basically, you need to open up the ORT-91 subset protocol of loopback dev.core 8a.c.01
[21:41] <BLACK_MAN> and just in the {}open folder{ line
[21:41] <Scunizi> zsquareplusc-liv: you can also install irssi .. a cli client
[21:41] <BLACK_MAN> you need to type in the folder u want it to open from
[21:41] <Tomas_> guys, my netbook mix I was downloading from ubuntu.com has crashed
[21:41] <jrib> BLACK_MAN: if you aren't here to seriously help people, then please leave
[21:41] <guntbert> !ops | BLACK_MAN trolling
[21:41] <zsquareplusc-liv> PatrickStarfish: ok. i have not found irc there. just a lot of other IM. must have missed it. (don't find that user interface easy to use)
[21:41] <BLACK_MAN> jrib
[21:41] <BLACK_MAN> I am helping people
[21:41] <Tomas_> anyone know why?
[21:41] <BLACK_MAN> perhaps you are not familiar with ORT-9a subset protocol
[21:41] <Roey> When I tried to install Kubuntu, it didn't recognize my /dev/md* drives...  If I'm installing to a softraid1 partition, do I need the alternate disc?
[21:41] <BLACK_MAN> that is not my fault
[21:41] <ary> I will install a netbook remix in a netbook with 2gb ram. how many swap does I need?
[21:42] <PatrickStarfish> zsquareplusc-liv: yeah it isn't real obvious, but it is in the list of account types
[21:42] <ary> 2gb? or 4gb?
[21:42] <nDuff> ary2, 2gb should be quite enough.
[21:42] <guntbert> ary: with a netbook you will want to suspend - so at least your ram-size
[21:43] <zsquareplusc-liv> any one else having a failure with karmic live and two monitors? i just get blinking garabge. it uses the NV driver. it works when i unplug one monitor :/ should i file a bug?
[21:43] <mage__> Roey: the alt cd is easier to push around
[21:43] <TLF> hello
[21:43] <TLF> can I update to karmic without using the CD?
[21:43] <mage__> zsquareplusc-liv: file a bug and possibly try and use an older version of the driver
[21:43] <zool> just upgraded to karmic xubuntu and for some reason my sound is gone ...
[21:43] <panopticon> what has gnome-obex-server been replaced with in 9.10?
[21:43] <ary> guntbert: yes... you are right. Does you recommend more than 2gb?
[21:43] <Roey> ok
[21:44] <zool> just upgraded to karmic xubuntu and for some reason my sound is gone ... need help
[21:44] <Roey> mage__: ok.
[21:44] <Roey> thanks.
[21:44] <DasEi> !dist-upgrade | TLF , yes
[21:44] <Andorin> To this day I've never found an audio equalizer program in the repos that actually WORKS. Can anyone suggest one that will really let me fix track volume in tracks of FLAC, OGG and/or mp3?
[21:44] <Roey> can I boot with nocd?
[21:44] <TLF> !upgrade
[21:44] <cellofellow> what's an ID3/Vorbis tag editor that supports regular expression search/replace?
[21:44] <Roey> 'nocd' boot option, right?
[21:44] <panopticon> what has gnome-obex-server been replaced with in 9.10?
[21:44] <Andorin> I just tried normalizer-ogg and it makes the tracks quieter, which is ridiculous.
[21:44] <arand> TLF: if you have internet yes, just use update-manager
[21:44] <ary> guntbert: or with 2gb is suficient?
[21:44] <Andorin> (They need to be louder.)
[21:44] <TLF> thanks, DasEi
[21:44] <zsquareplusc-liv> mage__: well it's hard to use an older driver when the LiveCD does not even give you a screen :/
[21:45] <joaopinto> zsquareplusc-liv, try to boot without usplash
[21:45] <slhsen> hi, does anyone have problems with aptitude on 9.10
[21:45] <joaopinto> !details | slhsen
[21:45] <mario_> 9.10 seems ok
[21:45] <mario_> 9.10 is faster
[21:46] <guntbert> ary: it should be sufficient if you don't run too many memory hungry apps - because if swap gets used in the running system (which is rarely the case with 2GB) *then* you would need more - but not much more
[21:46] <ubuntu_> So I'm having a problem trying to fix my system from livecd
[21:46] <lws> I can't install package slike dbus because their SETUP wants to LOAD the damn thing
[21:46] <mario_> running on 3 gyg and a 250gyg hard drive on an acer 5735z
[21:46] <lws> how do I get around this?  and just install my packages so I can reboot into my system
[21:47] <zsquareplusc-liv> joaopinto: well the white pulsating logo is displayed. it fails when switching to the screen with the horizontal effect that used to be a progress bar. and the problem is only there with two monitors
[21:47] <wsch> why is there only one file in /boot/grub/ ?
[21:47] <wsch> only /boot/grub/grubenv exists
[21:47] <mario_> it took 5hours to upgrade from ubuntu 9.04
[21:47] <mage__> lws: the installer is supposed to replace start-stop-daemon with /bin/true for the install :-/
[21:47] <slhsen> http://paste.ubuntu.com/305428/ it seems aptitude is not able te resolve ip adresses
[21:47] <dean> hey guys anyone know an alternative keyserver i can use
[21:47] <mario_> but was woth it
[21:47] <mage__> dean: whats wrong with uh
[21:47] <lws> mage__: Hmm
[21:47] <digitalice> hi
[21:47] <digitalice> hello
[21:47] <dean_> its not responding
[21:47] <ancientpaint> hello i am having a problem with Pidgin, I am using Ubuntu 9.10.  When I start Ubuntu Pidgin will automatically start. Is there a way I can prevent this? I tried to "startup applications" but don't see anything related to pidgin
[21:48] <lws> mage__: anything else?  LIke initramfs-update wants to access /proc and whatnot
[21:48] <digitalice> ive got a question
[21:48] <mage__> lws: are you doing a chrooted upgrade?
[21:48] <nemo> Say. Why does the Humanity theme have 5 separate svgs for, say, start-here.svg - isn't the whole point of SVG so that you don't have to do that?
[21:48] <digitalice> about netbook remix
[21:48] <Fager> mario_: 5 hours! almost like compiling the distro
[21:48] <mage__> mount -t proc none /proc
[21:48] <lws> mage__: update-manager died half way through and my system crashed and wouldn't reboot when updating to Karmic.   I'm trying to fix it.
[21:48] <dean_> gpg: requesting key CEC06767 from hkp server keyserver.ubuntu.com
[21:48] <dean_> gpg: keyserver timed out
[21:48] <dean_> gpg: keyserver receive failed: keyserver error
[21:48] <dean_> i got that
[21:48] <FloodBot3> dean_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:48] <LinuX2half> why when I want to upgrade my distribution, the update manager said "couldn't download release note and please check your internet connections?"
[21:48] <lws> mage__: Yeah, that's exactly what I'm trying to do
[21:48] <DarK``> Scunizi: I fixed it. If anyone wonders how to remove the default UNR interface in 9.10: sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-netbook-remix, download the i386 .deb of desktop-switcher (can be found through Google), sudo dpkg -i deskto-pswitcher_0.4.6_i386.deb . The "Desktop switcher" item is now available, click it, switch it and log out and in to see the results.
[21:48] <nemo> even if it is to offer slightly better rendering at different levels, seems surely all 5 resolutions don't need that...
[21:48] <guntbert> dean_: try http://pgp.mit.edu/
[21:48] <dean_> thanks
[21:48] <frostburn2> anyone else lose multitouch upgrading ubuntu remix
[21:48] <digitalice> who can I switch to normal desktop in ubuntu eee remix?
[21:49] <verylazyguy> jeffery: your repos are probably screwed up
[21:49] <mage__> lws: what do you get when you try to mount /proc ?
[21:49] <digitalice> karmic koala
[21:49] <lws> mage__: I'm booting from a live cd right now because of the update failure.   I just want my system fixed :(
[21:49] <mario_> go into compris
[21:49] <lws> mage__: that one worked.
[21:49] <arand> dean_: the ubuntu keyserver seems to be shaky every now and then...
[21:49] <slhsen> any idea? i am using 9.10 http://paste.ubuntu.com/305428/
[21:49] <Voldenet> Hello
[21:49] <Roey> how can I boot and still hvae the CD drive available?
[21:49] <lws> mage__: I thought proc was particular to the kernel though?  As in a virtual filesystem
[21:49] <mario_> and alter it there
[21:49] <lws> mage__: I guess I hope the livecd uses the same basic setup? :)
[21:50] <Roey> (using livecd) how can I boot and still be able to remove the CD so that I can insert others ?
[21:50] <Berzerker-> frostburn, check in mouse preferences. System > Preferences > Mouse
[21:50] <DasEi> lws: chroot in the broken sys and try to fix it
[21:50] <guntbert> slhsen: please give the details *here*
[21:50] <Berzerker-> Roey, you can't.
[21:50] <mage__> lws: its a virtual fs but you need to mount it where you want it
[21:50] <Roey> what/
[21:50] <ekimmargni> arand: Yeah, because it is totally overloaded :\
[21:50] <Andorin> What program does Nautilus use to play a music track when you mouse over it?
[21:50] <mage__> lws: like inside your chroot dir
[21:50] <Voldenet> i'm trying to get apt-keys with command: apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com <key1> <key2> ... <keyN>
[21:50] <Roey> Berzerker-: isn't there some 'nocd' kernel boot parameter?
[21:50] <ancientpaint> I am having some problems with pidgin, can some one PM me ? thanks
[21:50] <Berzerker-> Roey, no...how will it boot from the CD if you take the CD out?
[21:50] <Voldenet> and i'm getting answer that "server is inaccesible"
[21:50] <guntbert> Voldenet:  try http://pgp.mit.edu/
[21:50] <arand> Roey: I think that isn't possible with the ubuntu livecd, you can always bott from usb instead...
[21:50] <lws> mage__: Yeah I did that, so I'm chrooted, and have mounted /proc inside it, fixed resolv.conf inside it.   Anything else I need to do inside chroot before I can install dbus and whatnot?
[21:51] <Roey> arand: I've done this before actually,I just don't remember the option.
[21:51] <ekimmargni> Voldenet: There are so many people trying to do the same thing that the server probably can't keep up. Perhaps try later.
[21:51] <meoblast001> what is the package for PHP MySQL
[21:51] <mage__> lws: mount /sys while you're at it i guess
[21:51] <Roey> Berzerker-: it boots and loads into memory.
[21:51] <mage__> that should be all you need
[21:51] <meoblast001> i've installed what logically seems like it's the right package
[21:51] <xlq> lws: did you know, you can mount -o bind /etc/resolv.conf /path/to/chroot/etc/resolv.conf  ?
[21:51] <meoblast001> i hate GLAMP hell
[21:51] <mage__> mount bind a single file?
[21:51] <mage__> wow
[21:51] <Berzerker-> Roey, never heard of it. only way I know is USB boot
[21:51] <Voldenet> guntbert: thanks for pgp.mit.edu, works like a charm
[21:51] <arand> Roey: Ah, then you know more than me :) I though that option wasn't enabled for the ubu live...
[21:51] <TLF> it's there a ppa or something of JDownloader?
[21:51] <Voldenet> ;-)
[21:52] <lws> xlq: Yeah, but there isn't much advantage to doing that instead of copying it..
[21:52] <digitalice> hi
[21:52] <mage__> Roey: i know knoppix has that option the ubuntu cd might not have it
[21:52] <guntbert> Voldenet: you're welcome :-)
[21:52] <EvRide> hey dudez
[21:52] <slhsen> ok, when i open a terminal window and write "sudo aptitude update"  output is >> [Connecting to ubuntu.gnu.gen.tr (1.0.0.0)]
[21:52] <Roey> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
[21:52] <Roey> knoppix does.
[21:52] <Roey> ok
[21:52] <slhsen> but if i ping the address first
[21:52] <slhsen> it connects
[21:52] <wsch> ok how in Gods name am i supposed to get grub working on a partition instead of my MBR?
[21:52] <Roey> mage__: what's the option calld in knoppix again?
[21:52] <Roey> bbr
[21:52] <arand> TLF: I don't think soo, it updates itself...
[21:52] <digitalice> can anyone help mehhh ... :P? how do i change to normal desktop in karmic koala netbook remix?
[21:52] <wsch> im searching for an answer for 3 days no
[21:52] <wsch> w
[21:52] <mage__> Roey: i dunno i haven't used knoppix since 2004
[21:52] <wsch> and i helped people ehile i was waiting
[21:52] <lws> mage__: yep apt-get update still halting because of too many errors
[21:53] <Bilz> i want to install an operating system from a .iso file, and im using ubuntu (new to both VMWare and Ubuntu)
[21:53] <Bilz> specifically when it says whether I want a virtual drive or i want access to the cd drive in the options to set up the virtual machine. im unable to browse for the iso file
[21:53] <DasEi> wsch: yes that works
[21:53] <wsch> DasEi: it doesnt here nad i dunno what the problem is
[21:53] <mage__> Bilz: supporting vmware is way out of the scope of this channel
[21:53] <boomernang> Hi, how can i search for the latest created file in a folder?
[21:53] <DasEi> wsch: karmic ?
[21:53] <Voldenet> Bilz, use VirtualBox - it's far easier
[21:53] <lws> mage
[21:53] <slhsen> so my problem is aptitude cannot connect to host unless i ping it myself, any ideas? (karmic)
[21:53] <mage__> Bilz: virtualbox is easier and theres a channel on freenode
[21:54] <losha> Roey: toram ?
[21:54] <Bilz> Voldenet, after spending all that time installing it! is virtualbox better though?
[21:54] <wsch> DasEi: correct
[21:54] <bbunnelle> Is this ubuntu tech support IRC?
[21:54] <lws> mage__: dbus is failing to upgrade because it can't access some unix socket in /var/  Thus I can't install much else
[21:54] <jrib> bbunnelle: yes
[21:54] <mage__> Bilz: for virtualization use whatever you're comfortable
[21:54] <Voldenet> Bilz: You need to pay for VMWare workstation, so i assume it is better.
[21:54] <mage__> lws: so mkdir the dir behind it
[21:54] <EvRide> for can't mount a hard drive partition, works all the time, but now it says resource temporarily unavailable
[21:54] <EvRide> any tips?
[21:55] <th1> is there Xen support in ubuntu?
[21:55] <lws> mage__: the dir is there, the socket is not
[21:55] <mage__> lws: mkdir -p `dirname /whatever/its/asking/for`
[21:55] <mage__> oh
[21:55] <duffydack> Bilz, I turned away from vmware when the guest additions would never compile on newer distros/kernels and they denied the existance of a problem..  Vbox has never let me down yet#
[21:55] <lws> mage__:/var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket not existant.
[21:55] <DasEi> wsch: I'm not too trained with that, but it's easier in grub2 I read, maybe we should move to #grub to have better eyes on ..
[21:55] <bbunnelle> Has anyone addressed the DNS resolving problem  in ubuntu 9.10 (karmic) ? Im using open DNS right now but it takes an eternity to load pages when just using the regular GNOME network manager default configurations
[21:55] <Bilz> time to get rid of vmware then :)
[21:55] <Bilz> thanks
[21:55] <firefly2442> What does a "triaged" bug mean under Launchpad?
[21:55] <mage__> lws: thats odd, try starting dbus
[21:55] <lws> mage__: kind of annoying that configure reallly badly wants to test dbus out.  Anyway to hinder that?
[21:55] <mage__> firefly2442: check wikipedia
[21:55] <th1> firefly2442, it means someone else checked the bug report out and it makes sense
[21:55] <wsch> DasEi: sure im there allready
[21:55] <mage__> also, welcome to english ;)
[21:56] <lws> mage__: dbus is running on the livecd.   THat's been my problem Anytime I get another copy of dbus running it screws up the live cd's stuff and I have to reboot
[21:56] <firefly2442> th1: thanks
[21:56] <p-f> is there a way to remap the volumeup/down buttons to what they used to do pre-karmic? They used to only control the Master channel, whereas they now do weird stuff with both Master and PCM.
[21:56] <th1> p-f, the problem is the new volume control applet controls PulseAudio while the old one controled Alsa
[21:56] <mage__> lws: go into /etc/init.d and rename the dbus script to something else and then ln -s /bin/true dbus
[21:57] <th1> and the volume control applet is what intercepts those keys
[21:57] <mage__> lws: i'm not sure what exactly its called though
[21:57] <test34> if I chose to encrypt my /home, is the whole /home encrypted or just /home/username ?
[21:57] <Dergel> hello. who can help me? I installed grub2, but after a reboot i got error 15. Then I tried to reinstall grub via liveCD but i get the error "Cannot find list of partitions!"...
[21:57] <jthing> you knw THOR?
[21:57] <p-f> th1, thanks, I'll get rid of the gnome applet then
[21:57] <mage__> lws: also you will want to put it back afterwards ;) I gotta get going soony :-/
[21:57] <th1> p-f, problem is the old one is no longer bundled and then you won't have anything happen when you press volume up/down :(
[21:58] <Andorin> What program does Nautilus use to play a music track when you mouse over it?
[21:58] <lws> mage__: I found an open bug for it.
[21:58] <jthing> I hate union networks
[21:58] <bbunnelle> Anyone have any ideas on the DNS errors in ubuntu 9.10?
[21:58] <lws> mage__: Maybe a solution in here somewhere .  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dbus/+bug/441100
[21:58] <test34> How can I know which files/partitions are encrypted ?
[21:58] <slhsen> aptitude cannot connect to the host (tries to connect 1.0.0.0) unless i ping the host myself first, any ideas? (karmic)
[21:58] <bbunnelle> other than OpenDNS
[21:58] <p-f> th1, there's a bunch of programs to handle that
[21:58] <Jad-J> I need help
[21:58] <Voldenet> slhsen: nameserver fails?
[21:58] <th1> p-f, yep but none I found that stick in the panel
[21:58] <Jad-J> with my package manager
[21:58] <z987k> after upgrading to 9.10, something happened that broke my local network I get "Failed to retrieve share list from server" when trying to browse the network from nautilus.  I cannot figure out why, I went as far as to uninstall anything related to a firewall
[21:58] <apparle> WHat does this meen "[   42.816029] ata5: lost interrupt (Status 0x58)" in kernel log, it takes 30 seconds while booting, and PC just stops till then..... after that it continues normally
[21:58] <Jad-J> im getting an error.. on jaunty
[21:59] <p-f> th1, not that much of a problem for me
[21:59] <th1> p-f, ok then you'll be fine
[21:59] <mawno> hey guys
[21:59] <p-f> th1, the gnome one is buggy as hell anyway
[21:59] <bbunnelle> z987 - did you do a fresh install for upgrade?
[21:59] <bbunnelle> from 9.04
[21:59] <mathepic> I accidently removed GEdit from the main menu - Any way I can get it back (With its Icon, etc)
[21:59] <Urden> has anyone else had their atheros wifi cards quit working when upgrading to 9.10?
[21:59] <fasthans> hello. in karmic there is a new login screen. how/where can I change that?
[21:59] <z987k> bbunnelle, upgrade
[21:59] <ancientpaint> can someone PM to help with pidgin?
[21:59] <th1> p-f, I think it's more Pulseaudio that's buggy :( and it doesn't cleanly remove from karmic
[21:59] <mathepic> I don't mind resetting all my preferences since I just reinstalled to update to Karmic
[21:59] <slhsen> Voldenet: yeah but it works if I ping the host, and fine after that its just the first time for every browser
[21:59] <Thorv> I have a 9.04 server setup for ISPconfig 3. Will it be safe for 9.10 upgrade?
[21:59] <dreambox> Hello people.. I am starting to read https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/switching/index.html in an attempt to make my transition as easier possible.. Is this guide up to date?
[21:59] <guntbert> !pm | ancientpaint
[22:00] <z987k> bbunnelle, everything worked fine in 9.04
[22:00] <dreambox> I am trying to understand the philosophy of the document, for example: The following major audio formats are proprietary and so are not supported by default in Ubuntu: mp3, etcetc..
[22:00] <slhsen> Voldenet: s/browser/server/
[22:00] <dreambox> this does not help a lot.
[22:00] <terje_> ?
[22:00] <Dergel> who can help me? I installed grub2, but after a reboot i got error 15. Then I tried to reinstall grub via liveCD but i get the error "Cannot find list of partitions!"...
[22:00] <th1> dreambox, it's code for "enable the medibuntu repository" ;)
[22:00] <hellyes> is there a way to newtwork ubuntu and windows 7?
[22:00] <iWolf> Where could i get the ubot code?
[22:00] <losha> slhsen: check the default route on your client....
[22:00] <tdi> hi all, does anybody has issues with 9.10 on lenovo x60s ?
[22:00] <maria2> anyone:  Is there a way to minimize Evolution mail to the tray?
[22:00] <mage__> dreambox: what would help? "we dont include mp3 support by default because paying the man is SOOOO LAME dude"
[22:01] <bbunnelle> ok there are nothing but horror stories from upgrades with any OS. Karmic has implemented many new changes including REPLACING kernel and many other software packages that Ubuntu depended on instead of updating them. I would recomend backing up your system and getting a fresh copy of the ISO of Ubuntu 9.10 and install from scratch
[22:01] <ajunior> puts a intel gma 500 fuck me
[22:01] <hkm> alguien habla español?
[22:01] <slhsen> losha: I use dhcp
[22:01] <th1> !es | hkm
[22:01] <ajunior> hkm, yo. um powuito
[22:01] <ajunior> poquito
[22:01] <Jad-J> ubottu: Tijj
[22:01] <z987k> bbunnelle, ah... I've been trying to avoid that
[22:01] <mathepic> How can I restore gedit to the main gnome menu?
[22:01] <losha> slhsen: try renewing the lease. And check the default route and the dns supplied by dhcp anyway....
[22:01] <mage__> bbunnelle: so it removes the old kernel?
[22:01] <guntbert> !language | ajunior
[22:02] <hellyes> can windows 7 be networked to ubuntu?
[22:02] <sshc> Dergel: don't use the liveCD to reinstall grub
[22:02] <mage__> hellyes: be more specific
[22:02] <sshc> Dergel: can you try burning Supergrub?
[22:02] <punzada> is keyserver.ubuntu.com experiencing issues still?
[22:02] <nowimproved> anyone run fluxbox on 9.10?
[22:02] <test34> mathepic, system - preferences - main menu
[22:03] <dreambox> mage__ : Uhm, if it's supposed to be a win -> ubuntu newbies guide, what WOULD help would be ".. but there are numerous other FREE applications that support these files." I didn't get the obsession to state the mp3 is proprietairy format. As if one day everyone'd have to pay for it.
[22:03] <guntbert> punzada:   try http://pgp.mit.edu/
[22:03] <bbunnelle> its a complete upgrade. its changed to the new Kernel which was posted on the Ubuntu website upon beta release for people to be warned that there are bugs from upgrading. There is no way to address these issues becuase every machine is different.
[22:03] <Andorin> What program does Nautilus use to play a music track when you mouse over it?
[22:03] <punzada> ty
[22:03] <slhsen> loshe: no luck, even tried different dns server, same result
[22:03] <hellyes> mage_: after I install SMB, I can network an XP laptop, but windows 7 has this IPv4 thing going on.  I can't get windows 7 to see my ubuntu machine
[22:03] <Dergel> sshc: ahh yes you told me that but i had to go also... ok ill give it a try
[22:03] <bbunnelle> You have a mix going on of old sofrtware and new and its just not working out..  i would reinstall from scratch
[22:03] <ajunior> guntbert, what the problem?
[22:03] <Max-P> Hi, I have a strange bug since I upgraded to Karmic. The USB receiver of my mouse just keeps turning on and off, which blocks the mouse. Any idea?
[22:03] <slhsen> losha: no luck, even tried different dns server, same result
[22:03] <ajunior> hkm, do you need help?
[22:03] <losha> slhsen: and the default route shown by netstat -rn
[22:04] <hellyes> mage_: I can work on it, I just need to know if it's possible
[22:04] <laza> hi
[22:04] <mage__> hellyes: I've been using \\192.168.0.10 for the past 10 years
[22:04] <guntbert> ajunior: please don't use swear words here
[22:04] <test34> How can I know which files/partitions are encrypted?  I want to copy all encrypted files to an un-encrypted partition before re-installing ubuntu
[22:04] <hkm> yep
[22:04] <mage__> hellyes: i gave up on netbios resolution even with straight windows
[22:04] <laza> what do i need to run a 32bit applications? i have 64bit ubuntu right now
[22:04] <phixxor> is it possible to convert ubuntu into xubuntu?
[22:04] <ajunior> guntbert, so sorry. i undestand now.
[22:04] <mage__> laza: start with a 32bit glibc
[22:05] <guntbert> ajunior: :)
[22:05] <Sepling> I'm trying to 'apt-build install xorg' and I get "dpkg-buildpackage: binary only upload (no source included)" - is this an odd temporary error, or isn't the source supposed to be avaliable?
[22:05] <mage__> phixxor: xcfe-desktop
[22:05] <mage__> well maybe its xubuntu-desktop, do a package search for -desktop and see what you get
[22:05] <phixxor> mage__: and apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop?
[22:05] <dan___> HELP: I clicked "Normal Effects" and accidentally clicked cancel on searching for avaliable drivers and now it never searches for them, even though I have them
[22:05] <hkm> ajunior yes i need help
[22:05] <sshc> phixxor: I'd stick with ubuntu, and install xfce via Synaptic Package Manager
[22:05] <laza> mage__, is there a package name of it?
[22:05] <th1> dan___, try disabling the effects and closing and then trying again
[22:05] <sshc> phixxor: after you install xfce, you can have the choice of using either.
[22:05] <slhsen> losha: http://paste.ubuntu.com/305447/
[22:05] <mage__> phixxor: i'd leave ubuntu-desktop personally
[22:05] <ENOEHT> i need help configuring pulseaudio, everytime I try to listen to music or play streaming media, it messes up. I am running xubuntu 9.10
[22:05] <Larik> Phixxor: removing ubuntu-desktop wont remove "ubuntu/gnome"
[22:06] <dan___> th1 tried that, i will logout and log back in.
[22:06] <sshc> phixxor: quick search "xfce", and if can't find that, search "xubuntu"
[22:06] <slhsen> losha: are the first two line normal
[22:06] <Fager> How can increase the terminal resolution?
[22:06] <mage__> laza: i dont know what the pkg is called
[22:06] <Larik> phixxor: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[22:06] <mathepic> How can one reset preferences to their original state?
[22:06] <phixxor> mage__: sshc: Larik: thanks. I'll look for it :)
[22:06] <th1> Fager, you mean the text console?
[22:06] <mage__> laza: worst case you fire up synaptic and search for "32" ;)
[22:06] <laza> mage__, thanks anyway
[22:06] <Fager> th1 yhea
[22:06] <arand> Fager: The tty:s you mean? Karmic?
[22:07] <guntbert> !ask | hkm
[22:07] <Berzerker-> anyone here running karmic moblin remix?
[22:07] <dreambox> Ok, I have currently a WinVista (sucks) installation on my Toshiba Satellite A300 Laptop. I'd like to use Ubuntu as the primary O/S, but cause of Adobe stuff (:( ) should keep a Vista Installation.
[22:07] <Fager> arand exactly
[22:07] <losha> slhsen: yes, provided you have a router at 192.168.1.1. Do you?
[22:07] <bbunnelle> Is anyone else having trouble getting DNS to resolve over wirless with Ubuntu 9.10 KARMIC
[22:07] <lws> Yay! Did I get it?  Did my system finally upgrade successfully?
[22:07] <AndyR> !ask audacity
[22:07] <dreambox> What would you suggest me doing?
[22:08] <Voldenet> dreambox: install ubuntu
[22:08] <dreambox> (shit it's crazy in this channel..)
[22:08] <slhsen> losha: thats correct
[22:08] <Berzerker-> dreambox, like what
[22:08] <Voldenet> as 2nd system
[22:08] <Berzerker-> dreambox, Adobe CS? There are no linux versions...
[22:08] <guntbert> !ohmy | dreambox
[22:08] <dreambox> Berzerker that's why I'm keeping a Windows partition..
[22:08] <Berzerker-> dreambox, that's your best bet
[22:08] <losha> slhsen: Did thjs setup work previously? If so, power cycle the router :-)
[22:08] <Fager> arand: any idéas?
[22:08] <lxn> hello people,I want some help with a couple of things that I can't make to work
[22:09] <Voldenet> dreambox: because of 'few' apps i got my old xp running
[22:09] <dreambox> Berzerker I do graphics, wouldn't risk on not having fully functional Adobe CS on my machine no...
[22:09] <phixxor> lxn: go ahead
[22:09] <test34> dreambox, split your vista partition in at least 2
[22:09] <arand> Fager: you need to add an option: gfxpayload=***x*** to the grub boot line
[22:09] <Voldenet> but i spent 90% of time using linux
[22:09] <Voldenet> until now
[22:09] <hellyes> is there a native IRC client on ubuntu?
[22:09] <Voldenet> hellyes: hell yes
[22:09] <Voldenet> ;-)
[22:09] <dreambox> Voldenet : thing is I'm confused as how to do the partitioning, what to keep, what to format, what to backup .....
[22:09] <slhsen> losha: both worked with 9.04 and windows, power cycle? sorry dont get it
[22:09] <arand> Fager: eg 1024x768
[22:09] <Voldenet> xchat is
[22:09] <mage__> hellyes: native?
[22:09] <Fager> arand. Ok thanks
[22:09] <Voldenet> dreambox: backup nothing
[22:09] <mage__> hellyes: are you running mirc in wine? :)
[22:09] <Berzerker-> dreambox, that's why I told you that keeping dual booting was your best bet
[22:10] <Voldenet> just use resize
[22:10] <phixxor> hellyes: I don't believe any come preinstalled -- except maybe pidgin or empathy might have irc plugins
[22:10] <Voldenet> in gparted
[22:10] <hellyes> mirc
[22:10] <lws> Which xorg package has nvidia support?  How does that work?
[22:10] <lxn> I want to use clonzilla from ubuntu and I found on ubuntu forums the solution,BUT I can't make the launcher to start clonezilla
[22:10] <Voldenet> and create 2nd partition
[22:10] <Berzerker-> dreambox, I would backup just in case
[22:10] <tom967> hellyes is running obvious
[22:10] <dreambox> Voldenet : I can Resize ??
[22:10] <phixxor> hellyes: there are tons of irc programs that run native in ubuntu though
[22:10] <jrib> lxn: you should use partimage instead
[22:10] <Voldenet> dreambox: Yes, NTFS partitions can be resized.
[22:10] <dreambox> Voldenet isn't resizing an NTFS partition risky business ?
[22:10] <hellyes> phixxor: are there any that are pre-installed?
[22:10] <Voldenet> dreambox: hmm... maybe
[22:10] <Voldenet> i tried that 8 times
[22:10] <dan___> Alright i just tried, didn't fix it
[22:11] <Voldenet> and screwed only once
[22:11] <Voldenet> ;P
[22:11] <test34> dreambox, always backup before messing with partition
[22:11] <joaopinto> dreambox, no, just as risky as any partition operation, if your data is important, back it up
[22:11] <dreambox> Voldenet : what should I be careful for?
[22:11] <zcat[1]> bit of a puzzle here, perhaps someone can explain this; when we look at top there are process like pdflush which don't appear on a pstree.. how does that work?
[22:11] <losha> slhsen: usually a situation like this is because when you first send packets, you get an arp table entry for the next hop. The router provides that. I suspect it's gotten 'stuck'....
[22:11] <phixxor> hellyes: pidgin came preinstalled with 9.04, I don't know if empathy has irc, but you could check
[22:11] <Voldenet> dreambox: be patient, that's all
[22:11] <mathepic> empathy has irc
[22:11] <ctmjr> !nvidia | lws
[22:11] <mathepic> Im on it now
[22:11] <lxn> well,I used a lot in the past partimage but with ext4fs it did't work quite well
[22:11] <dreambox> I am.. although i have only one weekend. :)    So , "gparted" . How where do I get this
[22:11] <dan___> HELP: I clicked "Normal Effects" and accidentally clicked cancel on 'searching for drivers' and now it never searches even though they are there
[22:11] <phixxor> mathepic: hellyes: there you go then. empathy has irc :)
[22:11] <Voldenet> start ubuntu cd
[22:11] <Berzerker-> dreambox, again, I would backup just in case.
[22:11] <dan___> is there a way to reset gnome-settings or something?
[22:11] <Berzerker-> dreambox, you never know what might happen.
[22:12] <Voldenet> dreambox: if you got important data
[22:12] <hellyes> phixxor: thanx!
[22:12] <Voldenet> i'd backup them
[22:12] <dreambox> Okay I ll get myself an external ..
[22:12] <Voldenet> it's a chance to screw everything up ;-)
[22:12] <dreambox> So, how do I begin the process,
[22:12] <Berzerker-> dreambox, but you can download a live CD of ubuntu and run that
[22:12] <Voldenet> start with ubuntu live cd
[22:12] <Berzerker-> that comes with gparted installed on it
[22:12] <phixxor> hellyes: no prob!
[22:12] <dreambox> I downloaded the new .iso
[22:12] <Kurious> anyone having bluetooth headset problems with 9.10?
[22:12] <ctmjr> dan___, your trying to reset gnome to default?
[22:12] <Voldenet> start apps > terminal
[22:12] <Voldenet> or sth like that
[22:12] <Voldenet> and write gparted there
[22:12] <test34> if you loose power while partitioning you are probably screwed
[22:13] <dreambox> I was thinking of going directly with the install cd ,
[22:13] <Voldenet> an gui should appear
[22:13] <Berzerker-> Voldenet, please...stop
[22:13] <losha> slhsen: sorry. I'm out of time & have to go. Good luck!
[22:13] <FloodBot3> Voldenet: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:13] <arand> dan___: you could always go into hardware drivers and install tyhe drivers there
[22:13] <strycore> hello everyone
[22:13] <dreambox> doesn't this take care of the partitioning thing ?
[22:13] <Berzerker-> dreambox, when you boot into the CD, go to System > Administration > Partition Editor
[22:13] <dan___> arand they are already installed
[22:13] <Berzerker-> dreambox, that's GParted
[22:13] <lekro> what file is used to store the keyring that NetworkManager needs for VPN connections? I'm reinstalling and can't find the old keyring in my backup
[22:13] <dan___> ctmjr I accidentally clicked cancel on searching for driver when switching between normal and no effects
[22:13] <strycore> anyone knowing enough about couchdb to help me ?
[22:13] <dan___> ctmjr now they never search for them
[22:14] <dan___> ctmjr i think resetting something will fix this
[22:14] <nowimproved> why in 9.10 cant I disable gdm , in 9.0.4 I could
[22:14] <fasthans> can one change the login dialog in karmic?
[22:14] <strycore> I have problems accessing to the web interface of the local server
[22:14] <test34> !ask | strycore
[22:14] <mathepic> Can someone please tell me how to reset the main menu to defaults? Revert in Menu preferences does not work
[22:14] <dreambox> Berzerker : Why should I go through the LIVE CD process? Can't I do it directly with the Install iso of the latest version?
[22:14] <th1> Fager, resizecons might work . it's different from when I last used console mode :)
[22:14] <lxn> ...so,to continue with my asking,I want to make a launcher for clonezilla.I tried one with the command :sudo gnome-terminal -x /home/a/Work/drbl/sbin/clonezilla ,butit dose't start
[22:14] <dan___> ctmjr when you click between normal and no effects does it search for drivers?
[22:15] <strycore> oh thanks a lot test34
[22:15] <lxn> it dosen't start
[22:15] <Berzerker-> dreambox, if you're going to resize a partition other than ubuntu, yes.
[22:15] <joaopinto> dreambox, the live cd is the regular install process
[22:15] <guntbert> lekro: here it is .gnome2/keyrings/login.keyring
[22:15] <Segaja> is there a good reason, why php5.3 didn't make it into ubuntu 9.10?
[22:15] <Berzerker-> dreambox, you can't resize ubuntu on ubuntu. It doesn't work like that.
[22:15] <dreambox> Ops ,lost ya
[22:15] <mage__> dreambox: resize partitions while not running off of them (livecd)
[22:15] <dreambox> I just have Windows Vista on my machine right now... In case I wasn't clear !
[22:15] <nowimproved> nope it does not help
[22:16] <Berzerker-> dreambox, you need to boot to the live cd and resize it on there
[22:16] <lekro> guntbert: thanks. Is there any way to decrypt this file? seahorse doesn't seem to recognize it
[22:16] <Berzerker-> dreambox, then install ubuntu to the free space
[22:16] <dreambox> aha I see
[22:16] <ctmjr> dan___,  it searches for hardware  settings did you try to reboot
[22:16] <dreambox> Ok, next question, what do I do with my multimedia files. Do I keep them in the Win partition ?
[22:16] <carlartsua> hi
[22:16] <th1> dreambox, if you want to access them from both windows and linux, then yes
[22:16] <Berzerker-> dreambox, you'll be able to access them on the windows partition from ubuntu.
[22:16] <guntbert> lekro: sorry - I never looked at it
[22:17] <poet> has anyone else been unable to sync evolution contacts to Ubuntu One? (files and tomboy notes work file)
[22:17] <Berzerker-> dreambox, I need to get going now, good luck.
[22:17] <dreambox> and I guess, as it used to be, WIndows can't access Linux files...
[22:17] <lxn> phixxor,could you tell me what is wrong in that launcher?
[22:17] <dan___> ctmjr I have not tried rebooting
[22:17] <dreambox> Berzerker- thanks man :)
[22:17] <th1> dreambox, unless you install a special driver in Windows then yes :)
[22:17] <Bodsda> dreambox: not without third party drivers, no
[22:17] <carlartsua> I need to know how I can fix the next problem: I have a nokia n99 but the cam is always on tv cellphone
[22:17] <th1> carlartsua, n99??
[22:17] <dan___> ctmjr when you switch between normal and no effects under appearances does it search?
[22:17] <mathepic> How can I re-add gedit if I accidently removed it
[22:17] <mathepic> (from the menu)
[22:17] <laza> would you guys recommend a widgets application?
[22:17] <dreambox> Ok... let's download this cd :-)
[22:17] <th1> carlartsua, I have an n97 and I thought it was the latest ;)
[22:18] <Voldenet> drembox: windows can read linux files
[22:18] <Bodsda> mathepic: Accessories > Terminal >> type    sudo apt-get install gedit
[22:18] <Voldenet> just use ext3 and ext3fs drivers
[22:18] <lobonegro_rlopez> Hello, I need help
[22:18] <ctmjr> dan___,  no it just turns effects off
[22:18] <dan___> ctmjr and now go back to normal effects, does it search
[22:18] <mathepic> Bodsa: Nothing happened. I still have gedit, I just want it back on my menu
[22:18] <th1> !help | lobonegro_rlopez
[22:19] <karmic_police> anyone running 9.10?
[22:19] <poet> has anyone else been unable to sync evolution contacts to Ubuntu One? (files and tomboy notes work fine)
[22:19] <lobonegro_rlopez> ok
[22:19] <Voldenet> karmic_police: I am.
[22:19] <dreambox> Okay wait, is THAT the LIVECD ? ubuntu-9.10-desktop-i386.iso
[22:19] <Bodsda> !repeat | poet
[22:19] <lobonegro_rlopez> I don
[22:19] <Royall> Is there an easy way to change my main, root password (I know the current one)
[22:19] <th1> karmic_police, nooo, nobody ;) ..
[22:19] <Bodsda> dreambox: yes
[22:19] <karmic_police> i tried uninstalling evolution and i can't login to the machine after rebooting
[22:19] <phixxor> lxn: thats not how you would usually start a program
[22:19] <Bodsda> Royall: yes, but I am not allowed to tell you how
[22:19] <dreambox> I am confused, I thought it was a different from the normal installation.
[22:19] <th1> karmic_police, how did you try to uninstall evo?
[22:19] <poet> Bodsda: two minutes seems fine in such a high traffic channel
[22:19] <Bodsda> dreambox: that is the standard 32bit live cd
[22:20] <phixxor> lxn: first check if your program can be run from terminal
[22:20] <lxn> yes,but clonezilla needs to be root
[22:20] <karmic_police> through the synaptics manager
[22:20] <Bodsda> poet: 5 minutes is recommended
[22:20] <dan___> ctmjr did you try that?
[22:20] <phixxor> lxn: oh
[22:20] <guntbert> mathepic: edit the menus yourself - right click on applications - edit menus
[22:20] <poet> Bodsda: ok, will do that from now on
[22:20] <Bodsda> poet: cheers
[22:20] <mathepic> guntbert: It doesn
[22:20] <th1> karmic_police, and what happens now when you try to log in?
[22:20] <lxn> and i have to give it the password
[22:20] <poet> L)
[22:20] <poet> :)
[22:20] <dreambox> Bodsda : are you sure? I didn't see anything related to "livecd" when I downloaded this on the ubuntu website.
[22:20] <mathepic> guntbert: It doesn't give me the icon, and gedit is gone from Nautilius now
[22:20] <phixxor> lxn: : try this for starters: gksu /home/a/Work/drbl/sbin/clonezilla
[22:20] <karmic_police> white terminal screen
[22:20] <ctmjr> dan___,  did i try what?
[22:20] <carlartsua> sorry Im new in this, but i want my cellphone can be used as webcam but it aint
[22:20] <karmic_police> no desktop
[22:20] <farchumbre> hi, i need HELP. i tried to upgrade to 9.10 and when restarted the system crashes. anyone can help?
[22:20] <Bodsda> dreambox: all ubuntu cd's excpet the 'alternate' cd are live cd's
[22:20] <phixxor> lxn: note that your binary also has to be allowed to run as an executable
[22:20] <morydd> upon rebooting after running the upgrade my drives are failing to mount
[22:21] <dan___> ctmjr check pm
[22:21] <th1> karmic_police, try this (on the white terminal screen): sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop
[22:21] <poet> farchumbre: you're going to have to  be more specific about what is actually happening.  Do you see any error messages ?
[22:21] <guntbert> mathepic: then you could remove it completely and the reinstall it
[22:21] <lxn> and what bothere me more is that i tried all of the combinations I know:sudo su,gksu,gksudo ,etc
[22:21] <Voldenet> farchumbre: by word "crashes" u mean what?
[22:21] <dreambox> Bodsda ooooh! cool dat! thanks. Didn't know
[22:21] <guntbert> *then reinstall
[22:21] <ctmjr> !pm | dan___
[22:21] <dreambox> Bodsda so I get the option to either install or just go play directly
[22:21] <lobonegro_rlopez> For some reason, my Ubuntu stopped detecting my graphics card and turned off any visual efffects i was using. I canceled the Karmic upgrade, now Ubuntu does, but only one the other account on the computer. When I try to turn mine on, they work except the computer tuns really slow.
[22:21] <ProfOak> Is Ubuntu One working correctly in 9.10, or am I just having problems.
[22:21] <Bodsda> dreambox: correct
[22:21] <karmic_police> i already reinstalled.. i'm a noob sorry
[22:21] <Kurious> 9.10 bluetooth anyone?
[22:22] <mathepic> okay, I'm doing that now
[22:22] <Voldenet> lobonegro_rlopez: what gpu are u using?
[22:22] <phixxor> phixxor: try chmodding your file... that might help "chmod +x /path/filename" will make your file executable
[22:22] <dreambox> Ok Last question, anyone here got TOSHIBA SATELLITE A300 and Ubuntu up and working ?.....
[22:22] <OerHeks> ProfOak, i just tried, works perfectly
[22:22] <akonmech> can u help me sir??
[22:22] <th1> !help | akonmech
[22:22] <carlartsua> someone use nokia cellphone as webcam?
[22:22] <poet> ProfOak: I have been unable to get evolution contacts working, but everything else seems to be working fine.   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/Tutorials
[22:22] <ProfOak> OerHeks: Mine won't connect due to a "capabilities mismatch"
[22:22] <karmic_police> i may just leave evolution alone.. i am used to thunderbird. thats why i was uninstalling evoluton... apparantly they are interlinked somehow
[22:22] <lxn> it doesn't want to start from the launcher,but if I start the terminal and i type sudo ......the path/to/clonezilla ,it ask me about password,I type it and clonezilla starts
[22:22] <Dergel> sshc: well thats strange. i installed supergrub on my usb-stick. then i restarted but i was to slow to change to boot from usb so it bootet normal... and suceed. I restarted once more without the stick and it now boots normally. why ever.
[22:22] <lobonegro_rlopez> Voldenet:i'm not sure
[22:22] <akonmech> yaaaaaaaaaa
[22:22] <dan___> ctmjr try going from no effects to normal effects, does it search for driver?
[22:23] <arand> Royall: "passwd username" For just changing your normal user password
[22:23] <phixxor> lxn: just so you know, sudo is for commandline only, and gksu and gksudo are for any graphical application (they do the same thing)
[22:23] <Bodsda> lxn: see if you can get a properties on the launcher and tell us the command it is executing
[22:23] <phixxor> lxn: hmm, ok
[22:23] <farchumbre> when i turn the computer it begins to run and then appears init:mountall post-stop process (757) terminated with staturs 171
[22:23] <ProfOak> poet: I'm using the ubuntu one that came pre-installed when I got 9.10.
[22:23] <farchumbre> 127 sorry
[22:23] <poet> ProfOak: you'll have to upgrade, I've heard that it doesn't work
[22:23] <Royall> arand: what about the administrative password (which in this case is the same)
[22:23] <phixxor> lxn: what happens if you put gksudo /path/to/clonezilla in the launcher
[22:23] <mathepic> gedit stil isn't in my menu!
[22:23] <morydd> I get the kubuntu splash screen then /: waiting for /dev/disk/by-uuid/{uuid}
[22:23] <karmic_police> is it a known bug that evolution uninstallation breaks gnome desktop in 9.10?
[22:23] <lxn> sudo gnome-terminal -x /home/a/Work/drbl/sbin/clone
[22:23] <phixxor> lxn: I mean does it give you an error
[22:23] <dan___> CAN SOMEONE TEST THIS: Does it search for driver everytime you go from no effects to normal/advanced...
[22:23] <Ashfire908> How many bad sectors on a floppy would qualify as a bad disk?
[22:24] <th1> karmic_police, I don't think so. did the reinstall of ubuntu-desktop work
[22:24] <joaopinto> ProfOak, there is a known problem with ubuntuone for some users, it's being worked
[22:24] <joaopinto> !caps | dan___
[22:24] <lobonegro_rlopez> Voldenet: how do I find out?
[22:24] <Loafers> Why is my wifi slower?  Has anybody else noticed the wifi is slow?
[22:24] <karmic_police> it does in my netbook. search for driver that is
[22:24] <dan___> sorry. the pm rule is kind of dumb.
[22:24] <joaopinto> Loafers, not mine, that's driver specific
[22:24] <dAlfa89_> dan___, it does for me too, it's just seeing if the driver is installed activated
[22:24] <dan___> karmic_police now when you click cancel, do it again, does it search for driver
[22:24] <dAlfa89_> Installed and activated*
[22:24] <dan___> dAlfa89_ now when you click cancel, do it again, does it search for driver
[22:24] <OerHeks> ProfOak, i tried = sudo apt-get update and yes it wants to update my Ubuntu One client
[22:24] <phixxor> lxn -- I g2g - I'm sure someone else will be able to help you though!
[22:25] <dan___> Cancel on the serach
[22:25] <arand> Royall: If you have a normal install there is no difference between the user pssword and the one you use for sudo.
[22:25] <phixxor> lxn: also, try ticking "run in terminal" maybe that will help
[22:25] <OerHeks> and now it runs oke
[22:25] <dan___> *Cancel on the search for driver
[22:25] <Loafers> Did they change wifi drivers or something?  Karmic is noticeably slower than Jaunty
[22:25] <joseph> q
[22:25] <dAlfa89_> dan___, yeah, seems to
[22:25] <farchumbre> after 9.10 upgrade ubuntu does not startup and crashes.
[22:25] <farchumbre> mountall: symbol lookup error: mountall: undefined symbol: udev_monitor_filter_add_match_subsystem_devtype
[22:25] <farchumbre> init: mountall main process (756) terminated with status 127
[22:25] <farchumbre> rm: cannot remove '/forcefsck': read-only file system
[22:25] <farchumbre> init: mountall post-stop process (757) terminated with status 1 			 		
[22:25] <FloodBot3> farchumbre: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:25] <_dean> anyone can help me
[22:25] <_dean> im not getting any centre or lfe channels in 5.1
[22:25] <slhsen> losha: it worked thanks alot :)
[22:25] <SmokeAJ> evenin yall
[22:25] <dan___> dAlfa89_ so it doesn't search for driver anymore?
[22:25] <lxn> well,if i put gksudo /path/to/clonezilla ,the request for password appears and after i type in the password it happen nothing
[22:25] <akonmech> anyone can help me???????????????//
[22:25] <poet> farchumbre: used paste.ubuntu.com for log posts
[22:26] <SmokeAJ> i have a driver issue that i caint seem to resolve
[22:26] <poet> *use *long
[22:26] <th1> !ask | akonmech
[22:26] <ProfOak> OerHeks: Thanks, i'll give that a shot
[22:26] <dAlfa89_> dan___, I meant if I cancel, it searches when I try again?
[22:26] <dan___> dAlfa89_ yes
[22:26] <Fager> lxn: does it work for other applications?
[22:26] <akonmech> i hv a hp pavilion dv5 1006ax model
[22:26] <Voldenet> lobonegro_rlopez: turn on terminal and write lspci | grep VGA
[22:26] <_dean> how do i check to see if a channel is muted alsa old ubuntu 9.04 style
[22:26] <_dean> is there a way
[22:26] <dan___> dAlfa89_ click cancel on search and try again
[22:26] <farchumbre> how do i chroot the original drive?
[22:26] <akonmech> i need the fingerprint reader driver
[22:26] <lxn> with partedimage it worked this way : gnome-terminal -x Partedimage
[22:26] <Bodsda> farchumbre: sudo chroot /mnt/point
[22:26] <th1> akonmech, Note this part of what ubottu said: "ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily"
[22:27] <poet> _dean: you can run 'alsamixer' from the command line and see what channels are muted
[22:27] <zedster> hi, I have no sounds on a dell d830 with an intel chipset, any one else have this issue?
[22:27] <ctmjr> _dean, alsamixer in a terminal
[22:27] <_dean> poet: with alsa mixer how can i tell to see if its muted
[22:27] <SmokeAJ> for some rason my soundmax hardware isnt being recognized
[22:27] <akonmech> ok
[22:27] <dAlfa89_> dan___, It's stopped trying to search for the driver, it now works automatically, maybe it's every time that X is restarted or something?
[22:27] <th1> akonmech, that is especially important when there are so many peopel talking in the channel
[22:27] <_dean> does it show MM
[22:27] <poet> _dean: muted has an 'MM' at the bottom of the channel
[22:27] <th1> akonmech, otherwise most people won't even see your whole question and won't know what you mean
[22:27] <_dean> ah it does
[22:27] <lobonegro_rlopez> Voldenet: ok, should I paste what it told me?
[22:27] <poet> _dean: if it's not it as a '00'
[22:27] <akonmech> ya i understood.. sorry
[22:27] <_dean> how i do i unmute it
[22:27] <poet> _dean: type M
[22:28] <farchumbre> Bodsda: it says that it can't change because directory does not exist
[22:28] <lxn> sorry it was partimage
[22:28] <Voldenet> lobonegro_rlopez: Ye, it should be 1 or 2 lines
[22:28] <DigitalKiwi> !pastebin | lobonegro_rlopez
[22:28] <_dean> thanks for that
[22:28] <dan___> dAlfa89_ I logged out and logged back in. Do you think it is *really* using driver since you canceled search?
[22:28] <lobonegro_rlopez> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0c)
[22:28] <Bodsda> farchumbre: /mnt/point needs to be the point where you mounted the old hard drive
[22:28] <lobonegro_rlopez> voldenet:
[22:28] <dan___> dAlfa89_ log out and log in restarts X, still doesn't search
[22:28] <lobonegro_rlopez> voldenet:00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0c)
[22:28] <DigitalKiwi> did I do it wrong?
[22:28] <dAlfa89_> dan___, well I know that my video driver is installed and in use anyway, so it should work either way for me
[22:28] <lxn> anyway,it needed the terminal to run in it,like clonezilla needs,but clonezilla doesn't want to start
[22:29] <DigitalKiwi> !karmic | DigitalKiwi
[22:29] <dAlfa89_> Although now, Compiz has died ):
[22:29] <DigitalKiwi> wut :(
[22:29] <th1> ubottu is dead
[22:29] <DigitalKiwi> oh, k, thanks
[22:29] <Larik> RIP
[22:29] <DigitalKiwi> good riddance, is all I can say
[22:29] <dan___> dAlfa89_ ok so now you have same bug I do
[22:29] <poet> dan___ if you want to see what drivers X is using, examine the output of 'cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep driver'
[22:30] <dan___> dAlfa89_ we need to find a way to make it search again
[22:30] <farchumbre> Bodsda: I am trying to recover my system. I upgraded to 9.10 and now it doesn't work, i am running ubuntu 9.04 from a cd. i found that if i chroot the original drive and type sudo apt-get-dist-upgrade i may be able to recover it
[22:30] <theresa> Could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_feisty_universe_source_Sources - open (2 No such file or directory)
[22:30] <Bodsda> farchumbre: that does not sound like it will help I am afraid
[22:30] <theresa> what's that mean? tried doing an apt-get
[22:30] <dan___> dAlfa89_ I seem not to have an X log
[22:30] <farchumbre> Bodsda: do you have any suggestions?
[22:30] <dAlfa89_> dan___, that's peculiar
[22:31] <SmokeAJ> ok i installed ubuntu on my gateway laptop which has soundmax hardware and its not recognizing it ....... i caint seem to resolve this issue any help would be greatly appreciated
[22:31] <Codemaster> so I have an issue with 9.10 Karmia - for some reason, using my Synaptics touch pad, I cannot enable vertical edge scrolling; I had this issue also in Jaunty, but not in Hardy which is bothersome :)
[22:31] <dan___> dAlfa89_ nevermind, i had quotes arund command
[22:31] <dan___> lol
[22:31] <WhiteCrow1> hi guys what's best firewall ?
[22:31] <dAlfa89_> Heh
[22:31] <lxn> well I still can't figure out how to make that launcher work
[22:31] <lobonegro_rlopez> Voldenot: http://paste.ubuntu.com/305462/
[22:31] <theresa> WhiteCrow1, PF
[22:31] <dan___> (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//nvidia_drv.so ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 4.0
[22:31] <Codemaster> WhiteCrow1: iptables? lol; possibly PFSense
[22:32] <Royall> E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[22:32] <camadas> server irc.ptnet.org
[22:32] <mellop> Help i cant connect to WPA wireless networks. What can i do about what?.. :(
[22:32] <Voldenet> lobonegro_rlopez: ok, saw that before
[22:32] <farchumbre> HELP I upgraded to 9.10 and stopped working, it doesn't boot. i am running 9.04 now from a cd. how can i recover the system ?
[22:32] <Codemaster> Royall: sudo rm -rf /var/cache/apt/archives/lock
[22:32] <dAlfa89_> dan___, using the same driver as me
[22:32] <ugarit> Ok can someone help with this http://pastebin.ca/1649836 I've been trying for days and ftp://ftp.3drealms.com/share/1rott13.zip timesout. how do supress that file?
[22:32] <frostburn> codeamuk, pf is  only on freebsd
[22:32] <Bodsda> Royall: that usually means synaptic/apt is already running
[22:32] <dan___> dAlfa89_ can you use compiz now?
[22:32] <Royall> I don't have any other windows open that are using apt
[22:32] <dAlfa89_> dan___, yeah, it's working
[22:32] <Codemaster> Royall: then just nuke the lock file
[22:32] <dan___> dAlfa89_ hmmmmm
[22:32] <Hackboy125> #ubuntu-release-party
[22:32] <wsch> how do i disable the forsakened CDROM entry from my apt sources if i can only use CLI?
[22:32] <SmokeAJ> ok i installed ubuntu on my gateway laptop which has soundmax hardware and its not recognizing it ....... i caint seem to resolve this issue any help would be greatly appreciated
[22:32] <Royall> Codemaster: sounds like a good troll to me
[22:32] <Bodsda> Royall: log out then back in will probably resolve. Either that or delete the lockfile
[22:33] <dan___> dAlfa89_ it is searching for driver again lol
[22:33] <camadas> Hi ppl, im having a little problem. My bluetooth of my laptop was working perfect on Ubuntu 9.04 and now whit 9.10 it just doesnt work, it says that i dont have any Bluetooth device
[22:33] <DigitalKiwi> ubottu!
[22:33] <erUSUL> wsch: edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[22:33] <Bodsda> wsch: use vim and edit /etc/apt/sources.list -- comment out the cdrom line
[22:33] <Codemaster> Royall: no, not trolling you to be honest...
[22:33] <mikeru> !ubottu
[22:33] <SmokeAJ> ok i installed ubuntu on my gateway laptop which has soundmax hardware and its not recognizing it ....... i caint seem to resolve this issue any help would be greatly appreciated
[22:33] <Bodsda> !msgthebot > mikeru
 (In the future, please use a private message to investigate) Ubuntu 9.10 (Karmic Koala) is the current release of Ubuntu. Download: http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.10/ - Release Info:  http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/910
[22:33] <zylche> Ubuntu 9.10 - Known bug about the cursor not being shown to move on the screen while a key is held down at the same time?
[22:33] <DigitalKiwi> wut
[22:33] <FloodBot3> DigitalKiwi: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:33] <Voldenet> lobonegro_rlopez: try writing "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg" in terminal
[22:34] <lxn> man,it's very frustrating to be unable to make a simple thing like that launcher to work
[22:34] <morydd> also getting: dpkg: unable to access dpkg stays area: Read-only file system
[22:34] <Royall> it worked, sorry Codemaster T_T
[22:34] <LjL> !aptfix | Royall, actually no, it's really just a command that will remove a stale lock file
[22:34] <mellop> Help i cant connect to WPA wireless networks. What can i do about what?.. :(
[22:34] <Codemaster> Royall: it's quite alright :)
[22:34] <farchumbre> can anyone help me !! i upgraded to 9.10 and now it doesn't boot,
[22:34] <ugarit> Ok can someone help with this http://pastebin.ca/1649836 I've been trying for days and ftp://ftp.3drealms.com/share/1rott13.zip timesout. how do supress that file?
[22:34] <LjL> Royall: but you do need to make *sure* it's stale. type "ps aux | grep apt" and make *very* sure there's no apt program running
[22:34] <zedster> anyone have 9.10 working with an intel-hda chipset?
[22:34] <DigitalKiwi> saying hi to ubottu is investigating? >.> probably thinks anyone that talks to him nicely is trying to get in its pants, too
[22:34] <Codemaster> farchumbre: try reinstalling grub
[22:34] <lxn> i can't find a way to invoke the clonezilla through gnome-terminal using sudo
[22:35] <arand> mellop: what kind of wpa?
[22:35] <farchumbre> Codemaster: how do i do that? i am running ubuntu 9.04 from cd
[22:35] <Bodsda> ugarit: run this command     sudo dpkg --configure -a
[22:35] <mellop> Just WPA not 2 or tkit
[22:35] <lobonegro_rlopez> Voldenet:http://paste.ubuntu.com/305467/
[22:35] <ugarit> Bodsda: did you read my pastebin?  i am
[22:35] <Voldenet> lobonegro_rlopez: it's fine
[22:35] <Voldenet> try restarting ur ubuntu now
[22:35] <th1> ugarit, can you try, "sudo dpkg -r rott"
[22:35] <Voldenet> it should be "different" now ;-)
[22:36] <lobonegro_rlopez> Voldenet: What's fine?
[22:36] <Codemaster> farchumbre: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/reinstall-ubuntu-grub-bootloader-after-windows-wipes-it-out/
[22:36] <boscop> where do I apply these two patches: http://blogs.gnome.org/hughsie/2009/08/17/gnome-power-manager-and-blanking-removal-of-bodges/?
[22:36] <Th3raid0r> Hello everyone, I am having difficulty making my graphics card work with my old monitor's refresh rate. I have already manually set the refresh and sync but I still get a frequency error from my monitor, please help me
[22:36] <Bodsda> ugarit: what is the error?
[22:36] <EruditeHermit> hello, how fast are you guys booting into Karmic?
[22:36] <th1> Bodsda, it's in his pastebin message
[22:36] <mitur> Are there any hotkey for "goto menu" in the netbook rmx?
[22:36] <Bodsda> EruditeHermit: < 10 seconds.
[22:36] <Voldenet> lobonegro_rlopez: Your configuration has been replaced to which u start with.
[22:36] <lenswipe|server> ╻ ╻┏━╸╻ ╻   ┏━┓╻  ╻
[22:36] <lenswipe|server> ┣━┫┣╸ ┗┳┛   ┣━┫┃  ┃
[22:36] <lenswipe|server> ╹ ╹┗━╸ ╹    ╹ ╹┗━╸┗━╸╹
[22:36] <nicklas_> hello, i see warsow 0.5 is added to the karmic playdeb repos, but i cant mark it for update?
[22:36] <EruditeHermit> Bodsda, do you have a bootchart of it?
[22:36] <FloodBot3> lenswipe|server: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:36] <McPeter> oO
[22:36] <Bodsda> lenswipe|server: good bye
[22:37] <DigitalKiwi> epic
[22:37] <ugarit> It never completes download of the .zip in question and so after tens of hours nothing happens
[22:37] <th1> lenswipe, lamer
[22:37] <OerHeks> what did lenswipe|server  say ??
[22:37] <boscop> where do I apply these two patches: http://blogs.gnome.org/hughsie/2009/08/17/gnome-power-manager-and-blanking-removal-of-bodges/
[22:37] <lenswipe|server> ╻ ╻┏┓╻╻┏━╸┏━┓╺┳┓┏━╸   ┏━┓┏━┓╺┳╸   ╻┏━┓   ╻ ╻┏━┓┏━┓╺┳╸
[22:37] <mikeru> @OerHeks: hey all
[22:37] <lenswipe|server> ┃ ┃┃┗┫┃┃  ┃ ┃ ┃┃┣╸    ┣━┫┣┳┛ ┃    ┃┗━┓   ┃╻┃┃┃┃┃┃┃ ┃
[22:37] <lenswipe|server> ┗━┛╹ ╹╹┗━╸┗━┛╺┻┛┗━╸   ╹ ╹╹┗╸ ╹    ╹┗━┛   ┗┻┛┗━┛┗━┛ ╹
[22:37] <FloodBot3> lenswipe|server: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:37] <lobonegro_rlopez> Voldenet: But when I turn on Visual Effects, my computer runs extremely slow
[22:37] <boscop> my screen flashes black sometimes
[22:37] <mitur> Guys, is there a way to setup a hotkey for the netbook rmx menu?
[22:37] <DigitalKiwi> mikeru: you ruined it! :(
[22:37] <mikeru> @OerHeks: unicode art is woot
[22:37] <lenswipe> hmm
[22:37] <mikeru> :O
[22:37] <ugarit> sudo dpkg -r rott helped
[22:37] <erUSUL> !ops | lenswipe|server
[22:37] <ugarit> thanks
[22:37] <OerHeks> ah thnx mikeru
[22:38] <mikeru> is there any unicode art app ?
[22:38] <Codemaster> fidget might help, mikeru
[22:38] <lenswipe|server> the program is called Toilet
[22:38] <lenswipe|server> its in the repos
[22:38] <Loafers> lenswipe|server, seriously lol?
[22:38] <DigitalKiwi> is 'sex' in the repos?
[22:38] <Max-P> Hi, I have a strange bug since I upgraded to Karmic. The USB receiver of my mouse just keeps turning on and off, which blocks the mouse. Any idea?
[22:38] <steveccc> i am trying to install flash player plugin for mozilla but software centre is saying its not availble for my architecture - is it not available for 32bit intel processors?
[22:38] <mikeru> lol
[22:38] <bgr> sheesh this place is crazy and busy, I hope we get some people to join #ubuntu-geeks and get a smaller nicer channel going
[22:38] <mikeru> what a name
[22:38] <jpds> lenswipe|server: Please don't do that.
[22:39] <Voldenet> lobonegro_rlopez: http://linux.dell.com/wiki/index.php/Ubuntu_7.10/Issues/Compiz_Fusion_965GM_Incompatibility
[22:39] <DigitalKiwi> 42 aur/sex 1.0-1 (24) Spouts silly mad-lib-style porn-like text
[22:39] <ryan_> lenswipe|server, lame
[22:39] <Deiz> Any of you recognize the game on the left? http://www.ubuntu.com/files/masthead/910/tour/ubuntu-910-games.jpg
[22:39] <lenswipe|server> ╺┳╸┏━┓╻╻  ┏━╸╺┳╸   ┏━┓┏━┓┏━╸╻┏ ┏━┓   ┏┳┓╻ ╻   ┏━┓┏━┓┏━╸╻┏ ┏━┓
[22:39] <lenswipe|server>  ┃ ┃ ┃┃┃  ┣╸  ┃    ┣┳┛┃ ┃┃  ┣┻┓┗━┓   ┃┃┃┗┳┛   ┗━┓┃ ┃┃  ┣┻┓┗━┓
[22:39] <lenswipe|server>  ╹ ┗━┛╹┗━╸┗━╸ ╹    ╹┗╸┗━┛┗━╸╹ ╹┗━┛   ╹ ╹ ╹    ┗━┛┗━┛┗━╸╹ ╹┗━┛
[22:39] <FloodBot3> lenswipe|server: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:39] <Th3raid0r> Hello everyone, I am having difficulty making my graphics card work with my old monitor's refresh rate. I have already manually set the refresh and sync but I still get a frequency error from my monitor, please help me
[22:39] <OerHeks> Max-P, mouse what brand ?
[22:39] <LjL> !ops | lenswipe|s
[22:39] <th1> !ops lenswipe|server and lenswipe need a flood ban
[22:39] <jpds> LjL: Ohai!
[22:39] <Codemaster> Deiz: maybe OpenArena?
[22:39] <mauri> with partiton menager my usb external disk is not recognized correctly (1Tb)
[22:39]  * DigitalKiwi lawled
[22:39] <LjL> jpds: my brain had already given the command to hit Enter by then :P
[22:39] <Deiz> HUD doesn't match
[22:40] <Deiz> It's not OpenArena, Alien Arena, Nexuiz, based on the HUD.
[22:40] <logan1> Hey everyone, I just compiled the latest ALSA, due to sound issues, now I need to know how to load the module, can anyone help me? :)
[22:40] <pqwer1> anybody able to help with a display driver issue?
[22:40] <Loafers> Deiz, It might be Warsow
[22:40] <pqwer1> he's back
[22:40] <pqwer1> oh
[22:40] <lobonegro_rlopez> Voldenet:It was working fine for me since July, when I installed Jaunty. And it works on the other user accounts, just not mine
[22:41] <tonyyarusso> I have an odd issue on my home network.  SSH connections take a long time to initialize (5-10 seconds), but everything else seems normal.  It's between a hardy machine and a karmic one.  Any ideas?
[22:41] <Codemaster> so I have an issue with 9.10 Karmia - for some reason, using my Synaptics touch pad, I cannot enable vertical edge scrolling; I had this issue also in Jaunty, but not in Hardy which is bothersome :)
[22:41] <Loafers> Deiz, even if it isn't warsow you should try it out.  It's currently the best FPS open source game on linux atm imo
[22:41] <deelazy> hello, I'm searching for a software like sam broadcaster but uder linux, help plz
[22:41] <firefly2442> Deiz: http://tremulous.net/ Tremulous is fun too
[22:42] <Vertel> Question about sound on Karmic. I have the sound from another computer piped into Line In on my machine. Pre-Karmic, this just went straight to the output. Now it's muted or being intercepted, and I can't find where to adjust that.
[22:42] <Voldenet> lobonegro_rlopez: then i think problem lies in your /home folder
[22:42] <Vertel> I can set Line In as a recording source, but I need it as a sound source.
[22:42] <logan1> Can anyone help me load my newly compiled ALSA module?
[22:42] <Phalcon> Hello!  I just upgraded to 9.10.  It broke postfix in several creative ways.  The last one I'm fighting is that it is reporting "User unknown in virtual alias table" even though I had it working before.   Can anyone help troubleshoot postfix?
[22:42] <airforceguy> guys i accidently deleted the wireless icon from my panel how do i get it back please help
[22:42]  * pqwer1 takes a shotgun to Karmic
[22:42] <dr3mro> can any one help me fix stuck multimedi keys on ubuntu fn f5 f6 ???
[22:42] <pqwer1> worst distro ever!
[22:42] <red_eric> lol
[22:42] <LjL> !ot
[22:42] <Th3raid0r> Hello everyone, I am having difficulty making my graphics card work with my old monitor's refresh rate. I have already manually set the refresh and sync but I still get a frequency error from my monitor, please help me
[22:43] <sven_oostenbrink> Question, 9.10, just installed apache, php, etc.. Added hostname "kas-local" to /etc/hosts.. over SSH I start epiphany http://kas-local, works perfect.. The person itself, in a gnome session, uses firefox, epiphany, whichever, same URL but gets messages that the host is not found... What is this about??
[22:43] <Hans_Henrik> where is chile?
[22:43] <lobonegro_rlopez> Voldenet:ok, what should I do to fix it?
[22:43] <bgr> pqwer1: what Ubuntu?
[22:43] <Loafers> !chile | Hans_Henrik
[22:43] <OerHeks> airforceguy, try reboot ?
[22:43] <LjL> tonyyarusso: this seems like a possibility: http://www.mail-archive.com/secureshell%40securityfocus.com/msg01893.html
[22:43] <module000> sven_oostenbrink: the person itself? what do you mean
[22:43] <pqwer1> bgr: 9.10... just upgraded today :S
[22:43] <LjL> tonyyarusso: at least, it makes sense that from the outside world, DNS would resolve your machine quickly, while inside, there would be no DNS to do that
[22:44] <airforceguy> oerheks: i did still not there
[22:44] <pqwer1> I've been spending the last 6 hours trying to get this POS working
[22:44] <bgr> pqwer1: what giving ya problems?
[22:44] <nowimproved> anyone running fluxbox in 9.10?
[22:44] <fsufitch> can someone help me use supergrubdisk to boot from a USB?
[22:44] <JonathanEllis> I have installed Karmic desktop AMD64 but it wont boot. It drops to a grub2 prompt. I have tried to fix it using https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Using%20CLI%20to%20Boot. It looks like the initrd.img is missing. The commands I have tried are at http://pastebin.com/d699a503f. I dont know what to do next. Can someone help, please?
[22:44] <Voldenet> lobonegro_rlopez: got no idea, but you can see if there are some of those files in ur home (use ls -a ~)
[22:44] <tonyyarusso> LjL: I'm using IP addresses to connect, so I'm not sure that applies?
[22:44] <ctmjr> !panels | airforceguy
[22:44] <sshc_> JonathanEllis: are you getting error 15?
[22:44] <Voldenet> .*x* .*gdm* .*gnome*
[22:44] <lobonegro_rlopez> Voldenet:How?
[22:44] <pqwer1> bgr: display... what was working fine in Jaunty has stopped working in Karmic.. I can't get past the login screen
[22:44] <Voldenet> just write that
[22:44] <Voldenet> and see output
[22:44] <LjL> tonyyarusso: it might still be attempting to reverse DNS for some reason. i'd give putting names in /etc/hosts a shot
[22:44] <Voldenet> u'll see some files
[22:44] <tonyyarusso> all righty
[22:45] <bgr> pqwer1: hmm that's not good
[22:45] <Voldenet> which u can inspect to see what is wrong with them
[22:45] <airforceguy> ubottu: thank you it worked
[22:45] <LjL> tonyyarusso: i was right about that. http://www.yaleman.org/2007/12/09/ssh-reverse-dns-lookup-disable/
[22:45] <Bodsda> tonyyarusso: Ill second putting names in /etc/hosts as long as the machine is using a static IP
[22:45] <Bodsda> the remote machine
[22:45] <logan1> Hey everyone, I just compiled the latest ALSA, due to sound issues, now I need to know how to load the module, can anyone help me? :)
[22:45] <Th3raid0r> Hello everyone, I am having difficulty making my graphics card work with my old monitor's refresh rate. I have already manually set the refresh and sync but I still get a frequency error from my monitor, please help me
[22:45] <module000> logan1: make install should do it
[22:45] <bgr> pqwer1: I think the F keys can boot you over to a console like any other distro and then go look at your logs
[22:45] <sven_oostenbrink> module000: Im SSHing to another laptop. Then there trying to access the kas-local (which just is localhost) using firefox over SSH from my laptop, and it works fine.. When the guy behind the laptop itself tries the same thing, he gets host not found..
[22:45] <Voldenet> lobonegro_rlopez: but i might be wrong, and ur problem is more complicated. Try posting ur problem on ubuntu forums.
[22:46] <steveccc> can anyone help me to find why the flash plugin for mozilla isnt available in software centre
[22:46] <lobonegro_rlopez> Voldenet:ok
[22:46] <module000> sven_oostenbrink: well he doesn't have your host entry though, that's why he can't look it up
[22:46] <module000> sven_oostenbrink: he would also need to be able to resolve <hostname> to your lan IP
[22:46] <pqwer1> bgr: yes and the last dmesg points at the openchrome driver.. which was working fine in jaunty :(
[22:46] <firefly2442> deelazy: checkout icecast
[22:46] <module000> sven_oostenbrink: try explicity using your IP from the remote machine, that should work
[22:46] <cobra> hello
[22:46] <sven_oostenbrink> module000: no no, I added the host entry in HIS /etc/hosts file...  Im doing everything on the remote machine..
[22:46] <cobra> can somebody help my with taskbar
[22:46] <strywgr> why my screen is blinking :o
[22:47] <strywgr> after the last update? is anyone having the same problem?
[22:47] <SeaPhor> ok,, i'm on 8.10 because 9.04 gives me nothing but a locked up system, i cannot upgrade because it errors out, i just tried upgrading and it goes to 9.04, not 9.10,,, can anyone help?
[22:47] <cobra> is there anyway that i get top taskbar and bottom taskbar in one taskbar?
[22:47] <morydd> After running the upgrade t o 9.10, my system won't start up. I get "/: waiting for /dev/disk/by-uuid/{uuid}" If I hit "esc" to get to the recovery shell and run "dpkg --configure -a" I get "unable to access dpkg file area: read-only file system"
[22:47] <sven_oostenbrink> module000: Im doing everything over SSH on his machine.. including running epiphany..
[22:47] <logan1> module000, that gives me a giant error.
[22:47] <Bodsda> sven_oostenbrink: are you saying that someone typing kas-local is expecting to get redirected to 127.0.0.1 but isnt?
[22:47] <cobra> like windows taskbar..?
[22:47] <SteveVinci> Whats good everyone?
[22:47] <tonyyarusso> LjL, Bodsda: That definitely did the trick.  Interesting.
[22:47] <SteveVinci> does anyone here read the drudge report?
[22:47] <apparle> I am getting a blinking cursor for 30 seconds before login screen after splash screen.... why
[22:47] <mitur> Guys, is there a way to setup a hotkey for the netbook rmx menu?
[22:47] <ProfOak> So yeah, Ubuntu One doesn't work... still. Even after the upgrade.
[22:47] <sven_oostenbrink> Bodsda: when kas-local is added to /etc/hosts , it should work yeah
[22:48] <cobra> anybody?
[22:48] <Bodsda> sven_oostenbrink: yes it should. The only reaosn that it would is if the entry is incorrect. I believe /etc/host trumps a DNS server but Im not certain
[22:48] <arand> cobra: specify your problem, if someone knows they'll say.
[22:48] <areay> hi everyone... i'm having trouble running binaries... whenever i run a binary i downloaded i get an error like 'no such file or directory' when the file is clearly there...
[22:48] <tonyyarusso> Of course, now I forgot what I was opening the SSH connection *for*, but oh well...it will come to me.
[22:48] <LjL> tonyyarusso: a support question solved in #ubuntu! incredible.
[22:48] <cobra> arand i have
[22:48] <pqwer1> ah fuck it.. I give up
[22:48] <KenBW2> is there a reason i'd get Grub 1.94 on a clean Karmic install?
[22:48] <LjL> pqwer1, mind the language please
[22:48] <Bodsda> LjL: are we allowed to do that so early after relase day? Fix things?
[22:49] <Flannel> KenBW2: That's "Grub2"
[22:49] <module000> logan1: compilation went bad then
[22:49] <sven_oostenbrink> Bodsda: it should, it always has.. thats why I don't get this..
[22:49] <module000> sven_oostenbrink: i don't understand what you are saying..your host has apache etc, and has a local hostname entry
[22:49] <LjL> Bodsda: well, it wasn't a problem *specific* to the new release... so i though i could...
[22:49] <Loafers> Why is the Windows Key disabled on Karmic?  I can't use it as hotkey to minimize/maximize all windows anymore...
[22:49] <JonathanEllis> sshc: No I am not getting any error message. It just boots straight into the grub prompt. After install, it wouldnt even start grub and I had to do a grub update to get this far.
[22:49] <module000> sven_oostenbrink: and you are trying to reach it form a remote machine, using a hostname that it has no clue how to lookup
[22:49] <KenBW2> Flannel: 1.94 = 2? :S
[22:49] <Bodsda> LjL: ah I see. In that case its ok, I want tell :)
[22:49] <Flannel> KenBW2: er, 1.97 beta4 is 2, yeah.
[22:50] <Bodsda> sven_oostenbrink: strange one. Update the file, reboot and hope the planetary alignment sorts itself out?
[22:50] <Voldenet> KenBW2 1.94 is almost 2
[22:50] <test34> always round up
[22:50] <Vertel> Does anyone know how to make Line In audible on 9.10?
[22:50] <sven_oostenbrink> module000: no, there are 2 laptops.. A and B.. Im on A but doing EVERYTHING on B... When I access http://kas-local using epiphany on laptop B, I see the site, works fine.. when the guy behind laptop B does the same, he does NOT see the host.. which is... weird..
[22:50] <arand> cobra: Either you could go in properties for the top panel and change orientation to bottom, that'll give a double one...
[22:50] <logan1> module000, compilation was... problematic. I need some serious help with this.
[22:50] <KenBW2> Voldenet: 1.99 != 2.0 - 1
[22:50] <Flannel> KenBW2: GRUB was always 0.97, never 1
[22:50] <KenBW2> Flannel: random, fair enough
[22:50] <sven_oostenbrink> Bodsda: We already tried to microsoftsolution reboot the machine.. no effect..
[22:51] <module000> sven_oostenbrink: yes, that makes sense
[22:51] <Flannel> KenBW2: There is nothing higher than GRUB 1.97b4 right now.  If you want GRUB 2.0, you're out of luck.
[22:51] <module000> sven_oostenbrink: you are working on box B from A via ssh, right?
[22:51] <Bodsda> sven_oostenbrink: thats not just weird, that sounds impossible if I understand networking correctly. Have you tried refreshing his browser cache?
[22:51] <KenBW2> Flannel: so was there never a v1?
[22:51] <cobra> arand..but i want one taskbar only
[22:51] <arand> cobra: or just add the applets to one single panel, they're all add-able.
[22:51] <Voldenet> KenBW2: 1.99 == 2.0 - 0.01
[22:51] <afallenhope> So is there a reason why every 30secs I hear a "noise"
[22:51] <Voldenet> it means beta
[22:51] <Voldenet> ;-)
[22:51] <Flannel> KenBW2: No, 0.97: http://svn.savannah.gnu.org/viewvc/tags/?root=grub
[22:51] <cobra> how to do this?
[22:51] <KenBW2> Voldenet: erm, my bad
[22:51] <cobra> sorry i am new..
[22:51] <sven_oostenbrink> Bodsda: he tried firefox and epiphany..
[22:51] <areay> can anyone tell me why i'm getting a 'no such file or directory' error trying to run a program that's clearly there?
[22:51] <KenBW2> Flannel: strange set up. ah well
 back with another problem. updated to 3.5.4 and can't open my facebook inbox
[22:52] <BoredKender> oops, wrong window
[22:52] <sven_oostenbrink> Bodsda: proxy.. there you go...
[22:52] <KenBW2> Voldenet: but in version number, i didn't think they worked from the decimal system
[22:52] <Bodsda> sven_oostenbrink: clean the FF profile    sudo mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla.old   then try again
[22:52] <Voldenet> KenBW2: This numeration is bad - dunno why someprogram 3.5 is told to be "4"
[22:52] <sven_oostenbrink> Bodsda: He had proxy configured... thats why it didnt work..
[22:52] <Bodsda> sven_oostenbrink: that should not explain anything. What you do via ssh goes through the same pipes as if you were on the laptop
[22:53] <Bodsda> you are executing commands on a remote machine, as if you were typing on it
[22:53] <tim> having trouble with my broadcom wireless card after installing 9.10 x64
[22:53] <mikeru> wah
[22:53] <KenBW2> Voldenet: the best way is X.Y.Z where X = major version, Y=major change within X and Z = bug fix/minor change
[22:53] <Loafers> How can I determine what resolution I have?
[22:53] <unknown_> Hello, I've just installed ubuntu 9.10... during instalation (partitioning) I've checked to mount partition to specified folder... I'm sure that format was "unchecked" now I see that partition is empty :/ is anyway to recover that partition???
[22:53] <mikeru> how can I see from grub if i'm running efi grub or pc grub?
[22:53] <arand> cobra: yea, so just add all the applets to one.
[22:53] <tim> the proprietary drivers no longer show up
[22:54] <KenBW2> unknown_: if it's root (/) then it has to be formatted
[22:54] <AeroXUniv> Hello, how do i get SPDif to work with Ubuntu? I have a Asus P5B. AC97 soundcard with 2 devices. 0 = Analog, 1 = Digital.
[22:54] <sven_oostenbrink> Bodsda: it does explain everything, he is another user as me.. so his browsers have another configuration, a proxy, which I was not using :)
[22:54] <poet> tim: what's the chipset?
[22:54] <afallenhope> !noise
[22:54] <cobra> what is name of applet that shows you what you have open?
[22:54] <unknown_> KenBW2: it wasn't root... it was /dev/sda8 and I wanted to mount that to /media/Others...
[22:54] <mikeru>  /me wonders how to know from Grub 2 if it is EFI or PC Grub2
[22:54]  * mikeru wonders how to know from Grub 2 if it is EFI or PC Grub2
[22:54] <afallenhope> So is there a reason why every 30secs I hear a "noise"  it's like a flicker..
[22:54] <Bodsda> sven_oostenbrink: oh, so the user had a proxy configured, not the laptop -- makes sense, cheers
[22:55] <sven_oostenbrink> Bodsda: exactly :)
[22:55] <KenBW2> unknown_: also, if you change the filesystem (eg ext3 to ext4) it'll be formatted
[22:55] <martbeat> Hello - oh great Koala gods... got sound card problems (upgrade from Jaunty) - alsa seems to have them but they don't appear in the hardware list in the sound preferences - any suggestions for a semi-newbie (I've tried things in the forums with no joy)
[22:55] <sven_oostenbrink> Bodsda: thanks anyway
[22:55] <tim> poet: ummm broadcom.....
[22:55] <pappanz> hello. yesterday I upgraded from ubuntu 9.04 to 9.10. first of all, many thanks and congratulation for the good work to anybody has been involved
[22:55] <tim> poet: how can i check?
[22:55] <pasi> is there an ubuntu tool for configuring mounts? i.e. something to edit /etc/fstab for me
[22:55] <pasi> i'm lazy :P
[22:55] <FoolishOwl> I'm having trouble with poor audio quality.
[22:55] <Bodsda> cobra: window list
[22:55] <aZZe> hi
[22:55] <Mini> Hello, is it right that 9.1 UNR can't switch desktop mode any more, 9.1 beta could.
[22:55] <unknown_> KenBW2: so there is no chance to recover it in home ??? :(
[22:55] <morydd> After running the upgrade t o 9.10, my system won't start up. I get "/: waiting for /dev/disk/by-uuid/{uuid}" If I hit "esc" to get to the recovery shell and run "dpkg --configure -a" I get "unable to access dpkg file area: read-only file system"
[22:56] <almoxarife> martbeat: load package gnome-alsa-mixer
[22:56] <KenBW2> unknown_: have you gone through the format?
[22:56] <mitur> Is there anyway to get backspace to work as "Go back" in ffox?
[22:56] <cobra> wouu
[22:56] <martbeat> I had a problem with the partitions changing UUID
[22:56] <cobra> thats fantastic
[22:56] <poet> tim: lspci -n | grep '14e4:43'
[22:56] <KenBW2> pasi: yea there is something
[22:56] <cobra> tnx dude :)
[22:56] <FoolishOwl> Since I upgraded, I'm getting a lot of glitchy sound -- static, clipping, etc.
[22:56] <martbeat> fortunately only the linux-swap
[22:56] <KenBW2> pasi: i'll look
[22:56] <tim> poet: Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN (rev 02)
[22:56] <aZZe> I installed 9.10 NBR on my netbook today. Ubuntu cannot find my WLAN card. Atheros AR928X
[22:56] <pappanz> I have a major problem however, because my laptop has an intel video card (I think intel 855GM) and xorg crashed nearly always.
[22:56] <andresmh_> if i do sudo apt-get install gnome-shell will it add gnome shell as an option when logging in? or will it replace my current gnome for the shell?
[22:56] <martbeat> so it was an easy fix
[22:56] <poet> hrm, that should defintely be supportedc
[22:56] <pasi> KenBW2, cheers :)
[22:56] <aZZe> can anyone help?
[22:56] <unknown_> KenBW2: I think so... there was a message "creating filesystem on  ...(that drive) " :/
[22:56] <martbeat> have a look in fstab if you can
[22:57] <MrGoose> does anyone know a linux distribution that will work from a usb drive with persistence?
[22:57] <KenBW2> unknown_: then unfortunately you're screwed :(
[22:57] <Bodsda> andresmh_: it will be a session chosen at GDM screen i believe
[22:57] <morydd> martbeat: is that directed at me?
[22:57] <Bodsda> MrGoose: persistance?
[22:57] <c_korn> hello. is anyone using an Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 4965 AG or AGN wlan card in a Dell Latitude D830. the problem is that since karmic the led does not blink any more. in earlier version I just had to install linux-restricted-modules to fix it. but now this package seems to have been dropped.
[22:57] <andresmh_> thanks Bodsda
[22:57] <Wombleness> I give up trying to get my usb wifi to work
[22:57] <hvgotcodes> how do i get suspend/hibernate to work with fglrx?
[22:57] <zylche> Ubuntu 9.10 - Known bug about the cursor not being shown to move on the screen while a key is held down at the same time?
[22:57] <linxeh> are there any tools for doing sketch/mockups of software userinterfaces - something like balsamiq but open source ?
[22:57] <aZZe> i loaded ath9k already but the card is not recognized
[22:58] <tim> poet: tim@tim:~$ lspci -n | grep '14e4:43'
[22:58] <tim> 03:00.0 0280: 14e4:4311 (rev 02)
[22:58] <ezequiel> hi
[22:58] <dreambox> Does UBUNTU comes with KDE preinstalled and as the default GUI?
[22:58] <Wombleness> does anyone know if 9.10 offers better support for usb wifi dongles?
[22:58] <Bodsda> dreambox: no, but Kubuntu does
[22:58] <zylche> dreambox: that's Kubuntu
[22:58] <MrGoose> Bodsda: like an actual install and not via the live cd iso
[22:58] <tim> dreambox, KUBUNTU is what you are after
[22:58] <goose> omg, hi MrGoose :D
[22:58] <russianzilla> Hey, just of curiosity, does anyone else have an issue with the new volume manager muting sound on and below 15%?
[22:58] <Bodsda> Wombleness: there is always continued development
[22:58] <Smoke1> im on a gateway laptop and im having issues with my soundcard(soundmax) for some reason its not working and i caint seem to resolve the issue  if i could get any help it would be greatly appreciated
[22:58] <dreambox> oh ok, not interested in that thanks , just wondering what'll happen at first boot.
[22:58] <poet> tim: yeah thats the 4311, not sure why the non-free driver isn;t showing up :/
[22:58] <Wombleness> i spent 10 hours trying to get it to work last night, im tired as lol
[22:58] <KenBW2> unknown_: there's a remote chance you could get it if you use a file recovery program
[22:59] <Bodsda> MrGoose: you can install to usb in the normal way. Start the installer and choose the usb drive instead of a hard drive
[22:59] <Wombleness> if anyone has a miracle ill pay them $100 us
[22:59] <coincoin161> hi guys this is the second i have this problem with usb: when inserting any usb device nothing is done, in fact the kernel does not even notice that they are plugged in. the first it happened, it was on a hp laptop, the module for the integrated webcam seemed to block any kernel usb stuff: one removed (the module) everything worked fine. on this computer i have the same problem, something is blocking all the kernel usb stuff and i don
[22:59] <pax-> The bar where i see what windows i have open and can switch between workspaces suddenly disapered, how do i recover it?
[22:59] <ner0x> Anyone have an linode in here?
[22:59] <farchumbre> HELP I can't start ubuntu after 9.10 upgrade.  it begins to boot, passes the bios and then the ubuntu symbol appears, after a while a black screen appears with the following line:   MOUNTALL: SYMBOL LOOKUP ERROR: MOUNTALL: UNDERFINED SYMBOL: UDEV_MONITOR_FILTER_ADD_MATCH_SUBSYSTEM_DEVTYPE       INIT:MOUNTALL MAIN PROCESS (329) TERMINATED WITH STATURS 127    can anyone help me please!!!!
[22:59] <trism> mitur: go to about:config and set browser.backspace_action to 0
[22:59] <unknown_> KenBW2: Thanks, I'll try everything before I'll go to hung myself ;]
[22:59] <MrGoose> Bodsda: it didnt let me
[22:59] <MrGoose> Bodsda: let me try again
[22:59] <tim> poet: i have rebooted a few times, nothing
[22:59] <zylche> russianzilla: Tested there, didn't notice any similar problems
[22:59] <nowimproved> anyone use fluxbox in 9.10 and run youtube videos?
[22:59] <SteveVinci> how are you guys having all these problems
[22:59] <russianzilla> zylche: Hmm, alright, thanks.
[22:59] <Mini> When we'll see Karmic official documentation???
[22:59] <MrGoose> Bodsda: one more thing. Im running the installer from the same usb drive
[22:59] <KenBW2> unknown_: im no expert, but i think formatting overwrites everything that file recovery programs rely on though
[23:00] <Bodsda> nowimproved: not in karmic, but I have done so in Jaunty. If it works in gnome then there is no reason for it not to work in flux
[23:00] <MrGoose> Bodsda: is that going to be a problem?
[23:00] <pappanz> so... i know there are some problems with ubuntu and intel graphics cards, mine (855GM) makes xorg freeze and I need to restart the laptop. Is there any workaround you may know of?
[23:00] <Smoke1> im on a gateway laptop and im having issues with my soundcard(soundmax) for some reason its not working and i caint seem to resolve the issue  if i could get any help it would be greatly appreciated
[23:00] <Wombleness> I have a driver for it but its rpm
[23:00] <poet> tim: this might be a confirmed bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/421095
[23:00] <Wombleness> and ubuntu wont let me install rpm
[23:00] <Bodsda> MrGoose: yes. You cant run the installer from some space it will try to partition
[23:00] <russianzilla> pax: Right-click on the panel, go to Add to Panel, and choose Workspace Switcher from the list.
[23:00] <Th3raid0r> Hello everyone, I am having difficulty making my graphics card work with my old monitor's refresh rate. I have already manually set the refresh and sync but I still get a frequency error from my monitor, please help me
[23:00] <Bodsda> !alien > Wombleness
[23:00] <MrGoose> Bodsda: crap!
[23:00] <MrGoose> Bodsda: thanks anyway.
[23:01] <Wombleness> alien doesnt work
[23:01] <Smoke1> im guessin this is a bad time to be askin questions after the new release eh
[23:01] <Bodsda> Wombleness: then find a deb
[23:01] <chemaher76> hola
[23:01] <DopeGhoti> Smoke1: there's no bad time to ask questions :)
[23:01] <Wombleness> they only have the rpm driver file
[23:01] <farchumbre> HELP I can't start ubuntu after 9.10 upgrade.  it begins to boot, passes the bios and then the ubuntu symbol appears, after a while a black screen appears with the following line:   MOUNTALL: SYMBOL LOOKUP ERROR: MOUNTALL: UNDERFINED SYMBOL: UDEV_MONITOR_FILTER_ADD_MATCH_SUBSYSTEM_DEVTYPE       INIT:MOUNTALL MAIN PROCESS (329) TERMINATED WITH STATURS 127    can anyone help me please!!!!
[23:01] <Wombleness> tis d link 160
[23:01] <cfedde> yo fish!
[23:01] <Bodsda> Smoke1: good luck getting a response :) we need all the help we can get
[23:01] <areay> "/opt/firefox/run-mozilla.sh: 399: /opt/firefox/firefox-bin: not found" <-- i got this error but /opt/firefox/firefox-bin exists... i don't understand why... im getting these errors on other binaries too..
[23:01] <russianzilla> I did have one particularly pleasant experience with the upgrade when my backup apparently failed
[23:01] <DopeGhoti> cfedde: cheers :)
[23:01] <russianzilla> Tip: Avoid Simple Backup Suite
[23:02] <NeoCicak> hello..... i have to say after upgrading to 9.10... my computer is a lot slower :(
[23:02] <Smoke1> if i could help i would man
[23:02] <JonathanEllis> I did a clean install of Karmic desktop AMD64 over a windows xp installation, setting it up to dual boot. At boot time windows simply starts. I checked the contents of /boot/grub and it was empty. Someone in here told me to update grub which I did. Now it boots into a grub prompt but gets no further. I dont get any error messages. I tried to fix it by following ﻿https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Using%20CLI%20to%20Boot. It looks like the init
[23:02] <tim> poet: so its a regression from 9.04 then?
[23:02] <Smoke1> im a n00b on linux
[23:02] <kbp> could anyone confirm that Ubuntu Server Edition can run on Intel Atom? I'm planning to build a server
[23:02] <KenBW2> pasi: i cant put my hand on it atm, but "mountmanager" says it edits fstab
[23:02] <AussieGuy> I wasnt advised id need to stop gdm to upgrade to karmic koala. When I did the apt-get dist-upgrade, I got a configuration screen for libc saying gdm would need to be stopped to proceed. When I stopped gdm, down went X along with the terminal the upgrade was running in. After retrying several times I restarted, logged into X, now update-manager is telling me to do a partial-upgrade
[23:02] <igama> kbp, yes it can
[23:02]  * logan1 is sad that he has no idea how to get his sound working.
[23:02] <amon__> karmic ftw
[23:02] <poet> tim: looks like there are a couple open bugs related to broadcom 4311 on launchpad, so possibly.  maybe make a post on the forum?
[23:02] <fsufitch> Can someone help me boot an OS from a USB drive using SuperGrubDisk? Even pointers would be appreciated, since this is sort of urgent.
[23:02] <dreambox> https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/switching/applications-equivalents.html  : There is a LINUX Skype version for SKYPE, no need for replacements there I suppose
[23:02] <apparle> Plz help http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3107441.msg202755#msg202755
[23:03] <Bodsda> AussieGuy: sounds like it did not finish installing all the packages. Go ahead with the partial
[23:03] <pasi> KenBW2, ok, i'll check it out. i can always do it by hand anyway, it's not a big deal really but just figured there might be a tool
[23:03] <boscop> empathy crashes when I choose "import contacts from pidgin" :((((
[23:03] <SteveVinci> http://www.vincireport.com has alot of good ubuntu info...
[23:03] <Wombleness> hey if i just say fuck it and buy a different bit of hardware to pick up wireless what would work easy as with ubuntu? obviously not usb dongles
[23:03] <AeroXUniv> Solved my issue with SPDif. Cya all
[23:03] <KenBW2> pasi: yea it's make sense
[23:03] <russianzilla> JonathanEllis: I'm assuming /boot/grub didn't have a menu.lst in there?
[23:03] <DopeGhoti> !language | Wombleness
[23:03] <KenBW2> pasi: it'd*
[23:03] <AussieGuy> theres also no desktop, its been replaced with a all white background
[23:03] <Bodsda> boscop: run empathy from the terminal then see the error message when it crashes, it will help us debug the problem
[23:03] <Smoke1> anyone know of a soundmax(sound card) driver fix
[23:03] <dreambox> and why "Totem" ?? isn't there VLC MPlayer??!
[23:03] <AussieGuy> hopefully partial upgrade will fix that
[23:03] <tim> poet: yeh there is a post on the forum already, someone on there just rebooted over and over, eventually, the drivers appeared
[23:04] <DopeGhoti> dreambox: I believe  because VLC is closed-source.
[23:04] <russianzilla> dreambox: First off, VLC and MPlayer are different programs. Secondly, you're free to install them.
[23:04] <Smoke1> tim you talkin bout the soundmax issue
[23:04] <kbp> igama: both server edition & desktop edition or just desktop edition?
[23:04] <farchumbre> HELP I can't start ubuntu after 9.10 upgrade.  it begins to boot, passes the bios and then the ubuntu symbol appears, after a while a black screen appears with the following line:   MOUNTALL: SYMBOL LOOKUP ERROR: MOUNTALL: UNDERFINED SYMBOL: UDEV_MONITOR_FILTER_ADD_MATCH_SUBSYSTEM_DEVTYPE       INIT:MOUNTALL MAIN PROCESS (329) TERMINATED WITH STATURS 127    can anyone help me please!!!!
[23:04] <igama> kbp, both
[23:04] <Wombleness> hey if i just say beep it and buy a different bit of hardware to pick up wireless what would work easy as with ubuntu? obviously not usb dongles
[23:04] <Bodsda> dreambox: VLC has non-free codecs bundled with it and therefore cannot be installed legally in all countries which is why it is not installed by default
[23:04] <dreambox> russianzilla : VLC Media Player was the acronym..
[23:04] <boscop> Bodsda: it outputs some errors while running, and it shows a popup with mission-5 or something
[23:04] <martbeat> Hello - oh great Koala gods... got sound card problems (upgrade from Jaunty) - alsa seems to have them but they don't appear in the hardware list in the sound preferences - any suggestions for a semi-newbie (I've tried things in the forums with no joy)
[23:04] <Bodsda> Wombleness: every belking wireless dongle I have bought works fine since Gutsy
[23:04] <logan1> blerp.
[23:04] <samtihen> hi. i have my /home directory seperated on a special partition. when i install ubuntu 9.10, i want to keep all of my users files (videos, images, music), but i really don't want to keep any other settings like desktop backgrounds, bash history files, .ssh directories, etc. i'd like to start totally clean, EXCEPT for the core data that i have. should i move all the core data from /home/myuser to /home/databackup or something, and then de
[23:04] <samtihen> lete /home/myuser directory right before i install?
[23:05] <JonathanEllis> russianzilla: No the /boot/grub folder was completely empty. Now after the grub update it has a bunch of files in it but anyway I understand that the new grub that ships with Karmic does not use menu.lst anyway
[23:05] <tim> poet: do you know if the ath5k drivers are working yet? i have an atheros card sitting around which i originally swapped for this broadcom one because ath5k was so unreliable
[23:05] <logan1> fuck it, I'll just go dualboot to windows where at least I'll have sound and fix this tomorrow.
[23:05] <boscop> Bodsda: the runtime output is: (empathy:2962): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: instance of invalid non-instantiatable type `(null)';(empathy:2962): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_signal_connect_data: assertion `G_TYPE_CHECK_INSTANCE (instance)' failed
[23:05] <D7> Hi there, I created a usb disk for ubuntu netbook remix, when I boot it hangs on a screen blinking a cursor _ -- could somebody advise?
[23:05] <russianzilla> dreambox: For VLC? I've never heard of VLC referred to that way, so my apologies. Are you trying to install VLC?
[23:05] <Bodsda> boscop: best bet is to google the errors im afraid
[23:05] <dreambox> Bodsda aha, legal stuff.. but in any case, these stuff should be mentioned on the "Switching to WIndows" document.. I think its pretty essential...
[23:05] <logan1> (pardon the language)
 I have a dwa and the only driver they have is rpm...any ideas?
[23:05] <areay> "/opt/firefox/run-mozilla.sh: 399: /opt/firefox/firefox-bin: not found" <-- i got this error but /opt/firefox/firefox-bin exists... i don't understand why... im getting these errors on other binaries too..
[23:05] <Wombleness> what do you do to get it to work
[23:05] <funnyplay> hi
[23:05] <areay> can anyone help me
[23:05] <Bodsda> dreambox: what document?
[23:05] <Wombleness> ill pay anyone if they get it to work, please save me from using windows
[23:05] <AussieGuy> farchumbre: that means a program called mountall, cant find a symbol in its libraries
[23:05] <dreambox> russianzilla just going through the document, installing in the following days and wouldn't like surprises ...
[23:05] <Bodsda> Wombleness: nothing, all out of the box
[23:05] <AussieGuy> not sure why
[23:05] <dreambox>  https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/switching/applications-equivalents.html
[23:05] <farchumbre> how do i chroot the origianl drive (i am running ubuntu from cd and the original drive is the hard drive)
[23:05] <funnyplay> I got some problems with Ubuntu 9.10
[23:06] <martbeat> Have you?
[23:06] <kbp> igama: thank you :)
[23:06] <funnyplay> yes
[23:06] <theresa> Wombleness, use mplayer commandline, it's bulletproof...and easy on system resources, and comes with win32 codec binaries...
[23:06] <morydd> After running the upgrade t o 9.10, my system won't start up. I get "/: waiting for /dev/disk/by-uuid/{uuid}" If I hit "esc" to get to the recovery shell and run "dpkg --configure -a" I get "unable to access dpkg file area: read-only file system"
[23:06] <Bodsda> farchumbre: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[23:06] <martbeat> Me too
[23:06] <russianzilla> dreambox: Ah. Well, there really aren't any surprises with VLC. Running "sudo apt-get install vlc" in a terminal will do it.
[23:06] <farchumbre> AussieGuy: do you have any idea how to solve that?
[23:06] <theresa> Wombleness, meant for dreambox
[23:06] <Wombleness> lol figured
[23:06] <poet> tim: your best bet is probably going to be to stick with the broadcom.  the non-free drivers are known to work, there is just some kind of configuration/detection issue.  You could always download the drivers from broadcom's website and install manually
[23:06] <AussieGuy> not really
[23:06] <funnyplay> It did already freeze completely two times
[23:06] <dreambox> russianzilla heh I guessed so, I know VLC guys are pretty decent
[23:06] <funnyplay> and
[23:07] <dreambox> russianzilla FF and VLC is like the linux pride IMHO
[23:07] <funnyplay> I cannot install any application via software center
[23:07] <AussieGuy> but it sounds like that program might not be properly installed
[23:07] <Smoke1> IF ANYONE HAS A SOUNDMAX DRIVER FIX msg me plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
[23:07] <Wombleness> anyone know how to get a d link 160(dwa) usb dongle to work....
[23:07] <funnyplay> including codecs for totem
[23:07] <joaopinto> !caps | Smoke1
[23:07] <funnyplay> so I can't play any kind of media
[23:07] <Bodsda> !shout > Smoke1
[23:07] <tim> ah right.
[23:07] <AussieGuy> if you can reinstall it, or its dependancies it might work
[23:07] <Bodsda> joaopinto: damn you, slow those fingers down :)
[23:07] <farchumbre> Bodsa: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt   is not working
[23:07] <tim> poet: i might give that a try then
[23:07] <russianzilla> dreambox: Can't argue with that. Firefox speaks for itself and VLC is like the Swiss Army Knife of media formats.
[23:07] <dreambox> If we could take over the ADOBE stuff too we'd be big as MAC within a year ..
[23:07] <poet> tim: I used to have a broadcom, I know how much of a pain they can be :-p
[23:07] <Bodsda> farchumbre: pastebin the output of this command    sudo fdisk -l
[23:07] <theresa> mplayer....
[23:08] <Wombleness> OMG I'm going to have to use WINDoWs
[23:08] <|Logitech|> lol
[23:08] <stapel> I want to backup my complete home folder, about 25G, to a USB drive and then do a clean install of Ubuntu on my pc. I have tried a normal "cp" but afterwards I could not open some of the photos that I backed up. Is there a better tool for doing this?
[23:08] <funnyplay> Is it always that buggy when they release a new version?
[23:08] <|Logitech|> windows is sucks
[23:08] <tim> poet: it was flawless in 9.04
[23:08] <Bodsda> Wombleness: have fun - please dont add un-needed traffic to this bust channel
[23:08] <DopeGhoti> stapel: tar.
[23:08] <Xcell> Wombleness-    ftp://ftp.dlink.co.uk/wireless/dwa-160/DWA-160_driver_3.2.0.17_rev_A1_linux.zip
[23:08] <funnyplay> @logitech: i agree
[23:08] <Royall> does "Keep Aligned" on the desktop STILL not work?
[23:08] <dreambox> funnyplay : use VLC ... !
[23:08] <ryan_> i like windows7
[23:08] <Wombleness> I dislike windows but i dont have net and the driver is rpm
[23:08] <AussieGuy> try upgrading from xp to windows 7
[23:08] <funnyplay> i know
[23:08] <[kingnerd> stapel, I assume that was a permissions issue... make sure everything was 777
[23:08] <funnyplay> i tried to install it
[23:08] <FiremanEd> !ot
[23:08] <funnyplay> but doesn't work
 thanks i have that driver buts its rpm
[23:08] <Bodsda> funnyplay: theres always a few teething problems as with anything
[23:08] <farchumbre> Bodsda: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[23:09] <poet> tim: oh interesting.  The last time I ran it was 8.04 I think.  Hope you get it fixed soon :)
[23:09] <apparle> Plz help http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3107441.msg202755#msg202755
[23:09] <Xcell> not rpm ^
[23:09] <Wombleness> serious?
[23:09] <stapel> kingnerd: not a permissions issue, because some of the photos copied ok
[23:09] <Wombleness> SERIOUS?
[23:09] <farchumbre> Bodsda: Disk /dev/sda: 64.0 GB, 64023257088 bytes
[23:09] <farchumbre> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 7783 cylinders
[23:09] <farchumbre> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[23:09] <farchumbre> Disk identifier: 0x333abbc7
[23:09] <farchumbre>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[23:09] <FloodBot3> farchumbre: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:09] <farchumbre> /dev/sda1   *           1        7134    57303823+  83  Linux
[23:09] <Xcell> go get it
[23:09] <funnyplay> is it possible that some servers of ubuntu are down
[23:09] <funnyplay> ?
[23:09] <dreambox> funnyplay what seems to be the problem?
[23:09] <[kingnerd> If you mean mirros then yes.
[23:09] <funnyplay> well
[23:09] <[kingnerd> mirrors*
[23:09] <poet> farchumbre: copy and paste the results to here http://paste.ubuntu.com
[23:09] <Bodsda> funnyplay: packages.ubuntu.com has been down today yes
[23:09] <funnyplay> ok
[23:09] <erUSUL> Wombleness: what chip does the dongle uses ? use  « lsusb »
[23:10] <funnyplay> and languages?
[23:10] <Wombleness> i think it is rpm
[23:10] <dreambox> funnyplay just go to their homepage and get it from there, dont need to go through the package managers all the time!
[23:10] <dreambox> (gash! noobs!:P)
[23:10] <funnyplay> on the website of VLC
[23:10] <russianzilla> JonathanEllis: Looks like the GRUB2 equivalent of menu.lst is grub.cfg. You should be able to configure your entries there.
[23:10] <funnyplay> they said to use apt-get
[23:10] <funnyplay> problem: cannot install a thing via apt-get
[23:10] <igama> funnyplay, change your ubuntu repositories
[23:10] <Mini> There is no libstdc++5 in synaptics (9.1) Without it i can't install lexmark z600 driver for my printer lexmark x1270. Need a help! Any ideas?
[23:10] <funnyplay> only via .deb packages
[23:10] <fdvalero1> alguien habla espanol
[23:10] <russianzilla> funnyplay: Did you use sudo?
[23:11] <Xcell> Wombleness-   then youll prolly have to do this:    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1282783
[23:11] <funnyplay> yes
[23:11] <erUSUL> funnyplay: change mirrors ?
[23:11] <fdvalero1> necesito hacer una pregunta
[23:11] <Bodsda> funnyplay: in order:   apt, google for a deb, their sit, compile from source
[23:11] <lstarnes> !es | fdvalero1
[23:11] <igama> funnyplay, go to : Synaptic -> Settings -> Repositories and choose another server
[23:11] <dreambox> change mirrors yea
[23:11] <funnyplay> ok
[23:11] <funnyplay> i'll try that
[23:11] <fdvalero1> bueno quiero sabes si alguien tiene alguna invitacion de ggogle wave
[23:11] <fdvalero1> necesito una
[23:11] <JonathanEllis> russianzilla: Yes I tried that. The steps I took are at http://pastebin.com/d699a503f and I think the initrd.img is missing so the kernel cant boot. But I dont know how to fix that
[23:11] <funnyplay> i'll let you know when I tried it
[23:11] <funnyplay> seeyah
[23:11] <erUSUL> !es | fdvalero1
[23:11] <dreambox> if I say "fuck" just for once followed by iPhone owners and users, is it OK?!
[23:11] <fdvalero1> ya me registre pero no me han enviado nada
[23:12] <MrSchmo> anyone having issue with interacting with flash menu with 9.10?
[23:12] <Bodsda> !language > dreambox
[23:12] <ZachK_> o
[23:12] <Bodsda> ty ZachK_
[23:12] <ZachK_> ok...who needs help
[23:12] <ZachK_> no prob Bodsda
[23:12] <dreambox> okee donkee !
[23:12] <Bodsda> ZachK_: how did you do that? its silent
[23:12] <Wombleness> I tried using the windows driver it loaded it but still doesnt work
[23:12] <Bodsda> ah there we go
[23:13] <Xcell> ah
[23:13] <morydd> After running the upgrade t o 9.10, my system won't start up. I get "/: waiting for /dev/disk/by-uuid/{uuid}" If I hit "esc" to get to the recovery shell and run "dpkg --configure -a" I get "unable to access dpkg file area: read-only file system"
[23:13] <ZachK_> Bodsda: how did i do what?
[23:13] <Xcell> bummer
[23:13] <Wombleness> yeah bummer thanks tho appreciate it
[23:13] <joaopinto> morydd, i have seen other people reporting a similar problem, please search on launchpad, probably it's already reported, and maybe there is a workaround
[23:13] <Wombleness> Doing my head in
[23:13] <seme> hey guys... I think I've figured out why the package manager appears to take forever... if I install with apt-get I get an error saying that the packages can't be authenticated
[23:13] <Wombleness> i wish i could just plug it in and it work
[23:13] <MrWGW> hey there
[23:13] <Xcell> Wombleness-  did you try here:   http://www.opendrivers.com/company/22678/d-link-free-driver-download.html
[23:13] <moquillo> how can I install 9.10 on a disk with existing LVM2?
[23:14] <mac9416> Hey, y'all, is it possible to uninstall aptitude without breaking apt?
[23:14] <MrWGW> I was installing 9.10, and ubiquity crashed before installing GRUB; I also don't think it setup an initrd
[23:14] <seme> how do I add the correct key so that this doesn't happen
[23:14] <MrWGW> what do I do to recover?
[23:14] <Bodsda> seme: good be an issue with ppa's -- have you added anything to your sources.list ?
[23:14] <joaopinto> mac9416, yes, aptitude is not required
[23:14] <Wombleness> you can make ubuntu accept rpm aye?
[23:14] <lstarnes> mac9416: why do you need to uninstall it?
[23:14] <MrWGW> this was a new install on a machine that had GRUB installed from another linux distro already
[23:14] <erUSUL> !gpgerr | seme
[23:14] <seme> Bodsda, I haven't added anything I've been doing everything through the UI
[23:14] <Bodsda> Wombleness: aye, with alien but it is 'not' advised
[23:14] <Xcell> never tried
[23:14] <ZachK_> mac9416: my question exactly..why would you want to uninstall
[23:14] <n8tuser> moquillo-> i believe you have to have a separate partition for /boot  to boot linux from
[23:14] <erUSUL> seme: but gpg errors do not sllow things down
[23:14] <erUSUL> !lvm | moquillo
[23:15] <russianzilla> seme: Could just be an issue with the server. They're a little hosed after the release.
[23:15] <blizzkid> Lo all. I would like to switch from a generic kernel to a customized kernel, but I don't know what I can safely disable and what not. Is there an "easy" way to do so?
[23:15] <lstarnes> Wombleness: alien can attempt to convert rpms, but it's not guaranteed to be safe
[23:15] <stapel> is there a way of doing more reliable copies, something that maybe do a MD5 check after the copy and retries if it does not match?
[23:15] <moquillo> n8tuser: thanks, I do have /boot on a separate partition
[23:15] <joaopinto> MrWGW, you should only need to reinstall grub, assuming the install was sucessfull
[23:15] <Bodsda> n8tuser: a seperate /boot partition is not mandatory
[23:15] <seme> hrm... not sure
[23:15] <MixMix> !isitout
[23:15] <Wombleness> i cant install alien tho with no net
[23:15] <seme> it is hard to know what exactly is missing in terms of the keys
[23:15] <russianzilla> seme: You could try a different mirror. You can change that in System -> Administration -> Software Sources.
[23:15] <MrWGW> joaopinto: I don't see an initrd in /boot
[23:15] <mac9416> lstarnes, joaopinto, ZachK_  a program I develop for checks whether aptitude is installed to determine whether it is a Debian machine. I wondered what if someone had uninstalled aptitude.
[23:15] <bazhang> MixMix, yes
[23:15] <seme> it doesn't relaly say
[23:15] <meowbang> hi all anyone know a good cd burner that does everything but is low on resources. thanks
[23:15] <seme> ok
[23:15] <seme> one sec
[23:15] <MrWGW> does the install on 9.10 still generate an initrd in /boot?
[23:15] <MrWGW> there is one in /
[23:15] <farchumbre> i upgraded to 9.10 and now ubuntu won't start. how can i reinstall 9.04 without erasing parts of the disk
[23:15] <joaopinto> stapel, that would make copies much slower
[23:16] <n8tuser> Bodsda-> sure it is  if the rest are LVM
[23:16] <joaopinto> MrWGW, that is not the install per si, the initrd is a pice of the linux-image (kernel package)
[23:16] <stapel> joaopinto: thats ok, ive got time :)
[23:16] <joaopinto> piece
[23:16] <Xgates> anyone here work with Ubuntu, I have a question regarding a Ubuntu channel name?
[23:16] <lstarnes> Wombleness: download the .debs for it and its dependencies, put them on a cd or other removable media, then install them on the ubuntu machine with dpkg -i
[23:16] <Bodsda> n8tuser: if /boot is not seperate you can just point to / no?
[23:16] <ZachK_> farchumbre: well you cant...really
[23:16] <ZachK_> Xgates: ask
[23:16] <Xcell> lol
[23:16] <MrWGW> joaopinto: right but I believe i need one to boot
[23:16] <n8tuser> Bodsda-> nope, it would not work like that
[23:16] <MrWGW> and I'm not seeing one in the /boot directory
[23:16] <Bodsda> n8tuser: ignore me then :)
[23:16] <Xgates> ZachK_: you work for Ubuntu?
[23:16] <erUSUL> Xgates: looks like a better question for #ubuntu-irc
[23:16] <farchumbre> ZachK: what do you suggest me to do?
[23:17] <moquillo> I thought I've read lvm2 was supported in ubuntu's installer /-:
[23:17] <joaopinto> stapel, well, cp assumes your hardware is reliable :)
[23:17] <ZachK_> Xgates: no but are you trying to make an official channel?
[23:17] <Xgates> erUSUL: ahh ok
[23:17] <camadas> Guys any one have the Ubuntu 9.10 installed on a toshiba a200 1kb laptop ?? On 9.04 my bluetooh worked, and now on 9.10 isnt working
[23:17] <Bodsda> Xgates: Canonical dont govern this channel anyway
[23:17] <ZachK_> farchumbre: backup your important data and then use an install cd of 9.04
[23:17] <Wombleness> is anyone able to take the rpm file and make it into a .deb ?
[23:17] <lstarnes> Xgates: your question likely does not require someone who works for ubuntu/canonical to answer it
[23:17] <lxn> did someone try to install supergrubdisk on ubuntu ?
[23:17] <Wombleness> i'll pay you for your time
[23:17] <joaopinto> Wombleness, that is possile using alien, but not recommended
[23:17] <Bodsda> Wombleness: no - please stop spamming the channel
[23:17] <stapel> joaopinto: mine isn't obviously. cp did not work for me :(
[23:17] <joaopinto> Wombleness, what are you tryong to do ?
[23:18] <MrWGW> Wombleness: meh just install CentOS on a VM :-p
[23:18] <meowbang> arg i prefer not to use 9.10 untill few months after its been running problems like this always come up
[23:18] <Xcell> I dont take american express
[23:18] <FFEMTcJ> I did a clean install of 9.10 today on my laptop.. i was running 9.04 before.. I have a laptop connect card through AT&T wireless that worked perfectly, and installed with no problems on 9.04.. It wont work on 9.10.. All I know is that it won't connect to AT&T.. Any idea what I need to do to fix?
[23:18] <lstarnes> Wombleness: are there any forms available that are not .rpm?
[23:18] <h4f> in 9.04 I had an applet for viewing the temperature of hardware and hardisk. can't find it in 9.10
[23:18] <joaopinto> stapel, then you have a faulty hardware, what is exactly your problem ?
[23:18] <Wombleness> no its only a double click rpm
[23:18] <seme> that was it
[23:18] <Xgates> lstarnes: no I need to talk with someone that does work with them...
[23:18] <seme> the mirror I was using was hosed
[23:18] <seme> thanks guys
[23:18] <lstarnes> Xgates: why?
[23:18] <n8tuser> FFEMTcJ-> you still have your old 9.04 kernel? boot from it and look at your ppp config files
[23:18] <Wombleness> trying to get a d link 160 usb wifi dongle to work
[23:18] <farchumbre> ZachK: If i backup the home directory, will I save also all my preferences and bookmarks, etc, etc?
[23:18] <Juerd> Hi there. Is there a way to set the working directory for commands run with a custom keyboard shortcut?
[23:18] <FFEMTcJ> n8tuser: no I don't.. I did a clean install. :-(
[23:18] <stapel> joaopinto: I want to backup my complete home folder, about 25G, to a USB drive and then do a clean install of Ubuntu on my pc. I have tried a normal "cp" but afterwards I could not open some of the photos that I backed up. Is there a better tool for doing this?
[23:19] <joaopinto> farchumbre, yes, it will save your user related settings
[23:19] <lstarnes> Xgates: you can probably get an answer from someone else.  If it's irc-related, try #ubuntu-irc
[23:19] <th1> .I get a "capabiities mismatch" with my UbuntuOne client in Karmic UNR, is that a known problem?
[23:19] <Th3raid0r> Hello everyone, I am having difficulty making my graphics card work with my old monitor's refresh rate. I have already manually set the refresh and sync but I still get a frequency error from my monitor, please help me
[23:19] <joaopinto> stapel, that is very odd, either your USB is failing or you are hitting a bug
[23:19] <ZachK_> farchumbre: your webbrowser bookmarks?
[23:19] <n8tuser> FFEMTcJ-> okay, those connection via phone are like serial modems. so look into ppp to establish the connection
[23:19] <joaopinto> stapel, are you using an ext3 partition ?
[23:19] <jpds> th1: Have you upgraded recently? There was an update of U1 earlier today.
[23:19] <farchumbre> YES
[23:19] <jdoghacker> hey does anyone know how to get a ranger plus wireless network usb adapter to work on ubuntu linux
[23:19] <erUSUL> stapel: you should use cp -a to preserve permissions and stuff. and the usb drive has to be a unix filesystem if it is ntfs you should use tar to do the backup
[23:19] <farchumbre> ZachK: yes
[23:19] <th1> Th3raid0r, can you pastebin the contents of /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[23:19] <Smoke1> anyone here good with soundcard issues i have a soundmax sound card and the buttons on it works ex: raising and lowering the volume as well as muteing  BUT i get no sound
[23:20] <meowbang> hi all anyone know a good cd burner that does everything but is low on resources. thanks
[23:20] <Bodsda> meowbang: brasero?
[23:20] <stapel> joaopinto: ext4 on usb and ext3 on harddisk
[23:20] <jdoghacker> hey does anyone know how to get a ranger plus wireless network usb adapter to work on ubuntu linux
[23:20] <joaopinto> stapel, please check the release notes, there is a known issue with ext3 and large files
[23:20] <Bodsda> !repeat > jdoghacker
[23:20] <ZachK_> farchumbre: ok go to Bookmarks->Manage Bookmarks->Export HTML
[23:20] <joaopinto> stapel, ops, i mean ext4
[23:20] <FFEMTcJ> n8tuser: I don't really know what I'm looking for..
[23:20] <Bodsda> ZachK_: if he backs up his .mozilla folder, he should preserve his bookmarks
[23:20] <ZachK_> farchumbre: save the file to your desktop and then a flash drive
[23:20] <th1> jpds, I updated a few hours ago but I can see there is indeed a ubuntuone-update in update manager. I'll try it and see if it fixes it
[23:20] <meowbang> Bodsda, no to bloated for my os
[23:21] <jdoghacker> hey does anyone know how to get a ranger plus wireless network usb adapter to work on ubuntu linux
[23:21] <stapel> joaopinto: how larg is large?
[23:21] <Bodsda> meowbang: try asking bestbot in #ubuntu-bots
[23:21] <equex> hey... how do i  make gnome art manager actually use its cache (under 8.04 lts)
[23:21] <joaopinto> stapel, your problem is not about the copy tool, you have a system or hw problem that os corrupting the copy
[23:21] <Bodsda> jdoghacker: please see ubottu's pm
[23:21] <apparle> Plz help http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3107441.msg202755#msg202755
[23:21] <ZachK_> Bodsda: yes but this way it will work..if he backs up his mozilla folder he can cause issues with jaunty as it's mozilla ff 3.0 not 3.5
[23:21] <equex> it keeps reloading every time
[23:21] <Th3raid0r> th1: No i can't, i am using my windows partition to be here. However I can tell you that it isn't a problem with X or anything. It starts just fine, my monitor just can't handle what the ATI driver wants to set as the default resolution and freq.
[23:21] <Bodsda> ZachK_: really? ignore me then
[23:21] <joaopinto> stapel, you can use rsync, which does validate contents, at least it will do it on the second copy
[23:21] <Bodsda> !pm > jdoghacker
[23:22] <joaopinto> stapel, but again, it will just be retrying over your problem
[23:22] <th1> jdoghacker, what's the USB ID? run lsusb to get it
[23:22] <ZachK_> Bodsda: was that serious? i'm sorry if i offended you
[23:22] <joaopinto> Wombleness, some of those dongles are not supported on Linux
[23:22] <Wombleness> well there is a linux driver for the exact model
[23:22] <Wombleness> just its rpm
[23:22] <Smoke1> anyone here good with soundcard issues i have a soundmax sound card and the buttons on it works ex: raising and lowering the volume as well as muteing  BUT i get no sound plz msg if u know of any fixes.......tysvm
[23:22] <mrkrow> hello everyone. Was wondering if I could get some assistance. I have just updated/upgraded to 9.10 and can't play DVDs now. All my previous steps for 9.04 seem to be installed so i removed them and reinstalled them and still can't play. Any ideas?
[23:23] <th1> Th3raid0r, if you added the refresh rate manually in xorg.conf it's very relevant to see what's in the log file,s ometimes it discards the modes for various reasons and it helps to have it
[23:23] <DopeGhoti> !dvd
[23:23] <tim> poet: for next time http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1304845
[23:23] <manuel_> where's ubuntu offtopic channel?
[23:23] <th1> Th3raid0r, if you can reboot into ubuntu and copy xorg.conf and that log file out maybe we can help you better
[23:23] <DopeGhoti> !ot > manuel_
[23:23] <GhostWolfy> hi all. got a question, im thinkin of installing windows as well as the newest ubuntu which i already have installed and burned, my question is this, is there a way without rebooting when i do install windows and ubuntu to switch back n forth?
[23:23] <jdoghacker> 1737.0070
[23:23] <Bodsda> GhostWolfy: not without rebooting
[23:23] <arand> Roey: "TORAM=yes" ref (last entry of): https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/casper/+bug/25496/comments/36
[23:23] <ZachK_> GhostGum__: no...you will have to reboot each time..unless you do a vm
[23:23] <th1> GhostWolfy, only with virtualization such as Xen or Virtualbox or vmware
[23:24] <GhostWolfy> Bodsda thats what i thought :S my windows hdd died
[23:24] <lockd> GhostWolfy: use VirtualBox and install Windows 7 in a virtual machine
[23:24] <lxn> did anyone install supergrubdisk on ubuntu?
[23:24] <Bodsda> GhostWolfy: and youll need yo repair grub if you already have ubuntu installed
[23:24] <janhouse> Hi! Can I access Linux files from windows? I am using ext4 file system.
[23:24] <mrkrow> GhostWolfy: have you looked into virtualbox
[23:24] <GhostWolfy> lockd i don't have win7 i only have winxp
[23:24] <Max-P> Hi, I have a strange bug since I upgraded to Karmic. The USB receiver of my mouse just keeps turning on and off, which blocks the mouse. Any idea?
[23:24] <GhostWolfy> mrkrow, no cause i only have a gig of ram
[23:24] <mrkrow> janhouse: yes, are you using a virtualbox
[23:24] <lockd> GhostWolfy: oh, I thought you said newest ubuntu and newest windows my mistake
[23:24] <joaopinto> Max-P, no idea, but you should file a bug report at launchpad
[23:24] <Th3raid0r> th1: Well how would i go about mounting an ntfs partition and copying my xorg.conf file to the drive all through command line. I am a good power user, but I am no Guru at the command line.
[23:24] <janhouse> mrkrow, no
[23:24] <lockd> GhostWolfy: still the method is the same
[23:24] <GhostWolfy> lockd, no just the newest ubuntu
[23:24] <janhouse> dual boot
[23:24] <th1> Max-P, is there anything periodic in /var/log/syslog that coincides with that? try tail -f /var/log/syslog in a terminal and see
[23:24] <mrkrow> GhostWolfy: I think XP only needed 512. But still a prob. Hmmmm
[23:25] <jdoghacker> hey does anyone know how to get a ranger plus wireless network usb adapter to work on ubuntu linux
[23:25] <GhostWolfy> mrkrow well i never did a vm before and wouldn't know how
[23:25] <tmx> whats my detriment from 32bit to 64bit
[23:25] <mrkrow> janhouse: so are you booting from a disk and trying to get the host files
[23:25] <arand> janhouse: No luck there I think, I know there's a driver for doing ext3 but for ext4 I don't think.
[23:25] <ASrock> hey, i want to install KDE on Ubuntu 9.10, is this just a matter of selecting the KDE packages in synaptic or is it more complex than that?
[23:25] <Bodsda> Th3raid0r: find out the device name of your ntfs partition by doing    sudo fdisk -l    then mount with    sudo mount /dev/sda# /mnt     then     sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /mnt/
[23:25] <erUSUL> jdoghacker: please tell us what chip the dongle uses. « lsusb » on a terminal
[23:25] <th1> Th3raid0r, "sudo mount /dev/sdaX /mnt -t ntfs-3g" where X is the partition number of your ntfs partition (use fdisk -l /dev/sda to get it) then copy the files with cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /mnt/
[23:26] <erUSUL> ASrock: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[23:26] <mrkrow> GhostWolfy: it is pretty easy. It is like building a pretend machine. Very easy. you set up the HD, RAM and where to boot from. For instance an ISO or your host CD Rom
[23:26] <stapel> joaopinto: is there maybe an easy way of backing up to dvd?
[23:26] <GhostWolfy> only reason i need windows is cause having problems with some programs to copy dvd movies i have
[23:26] <joaopinto> stapel, no idea, i always backup to usb :\
[23:26] <Max-P> th1: There's only something about wpa_supplicant, nothing even related to usb
[23:26] <mdmkolbe> I want to install grub-pc from the karmic repo on my jaunty machine?  (I'm not wanting to install karmic just yet.)
[23:26] <jdoghacker> what do you mean
[23:26] <ASrock> erUSUL: then can i chose between gnome and kde at bootup or how does that work?
[23:26] <janhouse> arand, mrkrow, thank you. I'l just make another ntfs partition and store files there.
[23:26] <Bodsda> arsenip: you choose through the menus at the login prompt
[23:26] <erUSUL> ASrock: on the login manager
[23:26] <th1> Max-P, ok, wpa_supplicant is just scanning for wireless networks it's nothing with that
[23:26] <tesuki> Can someone direct me to a guide on how I can disable pulseaudio and get the old (8/9.04) system. Since the sound quality are bad.
[23:26] <ASrock> ok thanks, i will let you know how it goes
[23:26] <enduser000> hello, I installed 9.10 yesterday and needed to make another user so I did.  after that I deleted the other user but now when I log in I can't see my main user and I can see the deleted one, can anyone help me?
[23:27] <Wombleness> Bye ubuntu...going to an rpm distro lol
[23:27] <arand> janhouse: yea, that's the normal solution afaik
[23:27] <Max-P> th1: it's just like if the kernel was powering on/off all the time
[23:27] <mrkrow> janhouse: that would work too. sorry wasn't much help. I am still a newbie myself
[23:27] <th1> Max-P, I'm not sure what it can be then
[23:27] <Bodsda> tesuki: sudo apt-get remove pulseaudio
[23:27] <frostburn> ASrock, you do that at your login, which you can change at system > admin > login screen
[23:27] <erUSUL> tesuki: pulseaudio was default in 9.04 and 8.10 too
[23:27] <ZachK_> enduser000: hmmm
[23:27] <th1> Max-P, if it was, it would probably show in the syslog
[23:27] <n8tuser> FFEMTcJ-> look into something like this http://samat.org/2007/01/28/sprints-evdo-mobile-broadband-on-ubuntu-linux
[23:27] <Th3raid0r> th1:  and wherer is the log file located again?
[23:27] <th1> Max-P, maybe you have power overload on your USB? can you try a different USB port?
[23:27] <farchumbre> are the mozilla browser bookmarks in the home directory?
[23:27] <th1> Th3raid0r, /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[23:27] <mrkrow> i came in here to get some DVD help and ended up trying to help myself. How fun. I figured I was too much of a newb
[23:28] <GhostWolfy> mrkrow, ok but only reason im thinkin about doing a dual boot is cause my hdd in my windows machine died don't have a spare hdd and i tend to make copies of my dvd movies and even tho i find k9copy good but i think i don't know how it totally works and dvd shrink has problems on some movies
[23:28] <th1> Th3raid0r, and when you're done just type "sudo reboot"
[23:28] <frostburn> farchumbre, ~/.mozilla
[23:28] <Smoke1> anyone here good with soundcard issues i have a soundmax sound card and the buttons on it works ex: raising and lowering the volume as well as muteing  BUT i get no sound
[23:28] <tesuki> erUSUL: in these I could choose in System -> Preferences -> Sound to use alsa even OSS.
[23:28] <Wombleness> fuck you all =)
[23:28] <enduser000> also, my username (current one) doesn't show up in "users and groups"
[23:28] <shadowh511> hello, i am having an odd issue with karmic
[23:28] <th1> Th3raid0r, and you probably need sudo for the cp commands as well since ntfs will be mounted as root user
[23:28] <lstarnes> Wombleness: that is not appropriate
[23:28] <Max-P> th1: it was working just fine in Jaunty and the receiver is alone on the port
[23:28] <Wombleness> ubuntu is a fanboy distro
[23:28] <ZachK_> !language | Wombleness
[23:28] <mikejet> ubuntu keeps asking me to submit crash reports, but it doesn't let me see what's in them.
[23:28] <frostburn> !ask | shadowh511
[23:28] <tesuki> Bodsda: Thank you.
[23:28] <ObsidianX> hey folks, how does karmic do its boot splash sequence?
[23:28] <Max-P> th1: it's the only thing USB plugged in fact
[23:28] <ObsidianX> i know its running through X11 but im trying to find the actual configs/processes that are running
[23:29] <ZachK_> shadowh511:
[23:29] <Bodsda> tesuki: your welcome
[23:29] <Th3raid0r> th1:  lol, i got that much, but sometimes i am just unsure where the location of some files are and mounting is always something i don't like doing. But i will be right back.
[23:29] <Wombleness> mark shuttleworth is getting rich for all your work
[23:29] <mdmkolbe> I want to install a single package from the karmic (9.10) repo on my jaunty (9.04) machine?  (I'm not wanting to install karmic just yet.)
[23:29] <Wombleness> silly people
[23:29] <bazhang> Wombleness, be civil and stay on topic
[23:29] <lstarnes> Wombleness: stop trolling
[23:29] <Wombleness> your being used
[23:29] <ZachK_> shadowh511: what is your question
[23:29] <mdmkolbe> s/I want/How do I/
[23:29] <Bodsda> Wombleness: take it elsewhere please
[23:29] <ZachK_> Wombleness: please leave
[23:29] <shadowh511> whenever i launch videos, i get a gstreamer general stream error
[23:29] <adnc> hello, are there anywhere upgrade notes from 9.04 to 9.10?
[23:29] <Wombleness> my usb dongle wont work i have nothing to lose now
[23:29] <Wombleness> hahaha
[23:29] <Bodsda> !ops | Wombleness
[23:29] <erUSUL> !backports | mdmkolbe
[23:29] <shadowh511> i tried reinstalling gstreamer*
[23:30] <janhouse> How can I make Ubuntu not to automatically mount my MP3 player. If it mounts it it can't get accessed by rhythmbox and won't work.
[23:30] <th1> Max-P, try running udevadm monitor and see if something happens periodically there
[23:30] <th1> sorry "sudo udevadm monitor"
[23:30] <janhouse> So how to make that device won't automount
[23:30] <meowbang> Bodsda, in #ubuntu-bots bestbot sux as he has linuted knowledge and his poles are to small.
[23:30] <Bodsda> meowbang: heh, he gets better as more people use him
[23:31] <shadowh511> its really frustrating
[23:31] <n8tuser> janhouse-> perhaps look at your udev rules and delete the rules for that?
[23:31] <enduser000> hello, can anyone help me delete a user and get mine to show at the login screen? my current one doesn't show but a deleted user does instead
[23:31] <shadowh511> only hulu desktop works
[23:31] <ZachK_> thanks bazhang
[23:31] <Max-P> th1: it show's nothing. The receiver turns on and off then on then off but nothing displays (ran as root)
[23:31] <Enissay_> Hi guys, i need help with rename please:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8196700#post8196700
[23:31] <erUSUL> janhouse: on nautilus preferences. open a nautilus window go to Edit>Preferences|| Last tab
[23:31] <janhouse> n8tuser, how can I do that?
[23:31] <lxn> i want to install suergrubdisk on ubuntu.Can someone help me with some guidings?
[23:31] <BiDOrD> Hi, what is the command to automatically probe the kernel list in menu.lst ?
[23:31] <gerald_> hi where is the banshee plugin directory?
[23:31] <th1> Max-P, if nothing shows with udevadm it means the kernel is not detecting any insert/remove events. that is truly weird
[23:31] <GhostWolfy> does anyone know how to use k9copy here?
[23:31] <Max-P> th1: it's just like if the device was suspended
[23:32] <camadas> Guys any one have time to help me out ? I have all rdy asked about 4 times if any one know what my problem was and no one anwser me
[23:32] <mdmkolbe> erUSUL: the package/version I'm after isn't in jaunty-backports
[23:32] <th1> Max-P, yes but that would show in udevadm monitor
[23:32] <n8tuser> janhouse-> or try erUSUL suggestion first, the udev rules are a bit complicated
[23:32] <Max-P> th1: I can even turn it on back with echo on > level
[23:32] <th1> Max-P, which "level" file is that?
[23:32] <n8tuser> camadas-> can you repeat and elaborate on the problem, things scrolled too fast
[23:32] <ObsidianX> where can i find the step-by-step config that starts the bootsplash for karmic?
[23:33] <camadas> Oki
[23:33] <Smoke1> anyone here good with soundcard issues i have a soundmax sound card and the buttons on it works ex: raising and lowering the volume as well as muteing  BUT i get no sound
[23:33] <camadas> Guys any one have the Ubuntu 9.10 installed on a toshiba a200 1kb laptop ?? On 9.04 my bluetooh worked, and now on 9.10 isnt working
[23:33] <Max-P> th1: in /sys/bus/usb/devices/5-2/power
[23:33] <camadas> That is my problem n8tuser
[23:33] <ZachK_> camadas: i'm using Karmic but on a Dell system
[23:33] <th1> Max-P, try fuser on that file
[23:33] <joaopinto> ObsidianX, i dont know a step-by-step, but you will ant to learm about usplash and xsplash
[23:33] <ObsidianX> ah, xsplash, alrighty
[23:33] <ObsidianX> i know of usplash
[23:33] <ObsidianX> i didn't know what the new one was
[23:33] <joaopinto> usplash is before X starting, xsplash is after X
[23:33] <joaopinto> both are used
[23:33] <camadas> Zachk_ Dell system is hard to find here at Portugal hehe :p
[23:33] <Max-P> th1: command returns nothing (fuser ./level)
[23:33] <meowbang> Bodsda, how can mintbot get poles i dont see him asking questions from ppl
[23:33] <n8tuser> camadas-> i never owned a bluetooth device, so i cant really help you.. anyhow see if bluetooth demon is running first
[23:34] <ZachK_> camadas: ah i see
[23:34] <ObsidianX> really? but there isn't any framebuffer splash anymore in karmic
[23:34] <Brando753> guys, how long should the upgrade take?
[23:34] <Max-P> th1: and when I echo on on that file, it stays on longer.
[23:34] <zedster> Hi, I have a intel-hda audio chipset on a dell d830, upgraded to 9.10 and now no sound, anyone get that chipset to work?
[23:34] <joaopinto> ObsidianX, you have usplash between kernel loading and X
[23:34] <th1> Max-P, it sounds very strange, either the kernel or some daemon is changing its power state
[23:34] <n8tuser> Brando753-> may i suggest a fresh install instead of an upgrade? lesser headaches
[23:34] <frostburn> Brando753, depends on your net speed and connection to mirror, mine took a few hours due to many people downloading at the same time
[23:34] <th1> Max-P, I've never seen it before
[23:34] <joaopinto> now X is started earlier
[23:34] <bta123> Hi, I tried to uninstall evolution, and after that re-install ubuntu-desktop. Now I can´t start in graphical mode. What can I do?
[23:34] <ObsidianX> joaopinto: ah alright, i guess its just transparent then
[23:34] <enduser000> can anyone help me fix my user accounts? a deleted one shows at the login screen and mine doesn't
[23:35] <th1> Max-P, I'm at a loss if there's nothing in dmesg or syslog or udevadm monitor, sorry :(
[23:35] <joaopinto> ObsidianX, yup :)
[23:35] <ZachK_> enduser000: hmmm odd
[23:35] <camadas> n8tuset ? bluetooth demon is running first ? It as been a while since i worked on linux, i decided to work whit linux once more hehe, so i forgot many thinks
[23:35] <ObsidianX> joaopinto: any reason for it to start?
[23:35] <zedster> sounds issues, 9.10 anyone?
[23:35] <ObsidianX> joaopinto: if its not going to do any boot animation then why have it?
[23:35] <Max-P> th1: I noticed that the power applet now tells me the battery state of the device, which seems false too (it reports a bad model number)
[23:35] <enduser000> ZachK_: it is odd, do you know how I could fix it?
[23:35] <Brando753> well i alredy downloaded and its taking forever to install / also i cannot do a fresh start i just got all the files and programs the way i want the m :P
[23:35] <Brando753> took 24 hours to download :P
[23:35] <kodokbleduk> anyone know how to fix my option pcmcia problem in 9.10... it wont detect my modem...
[23:35] <ZachK_> enduser000: what version are you using
[23:36] <enduser000> 9.10
[23:36] <joaopinto> ObsidianX, it will, maybe on Lucid :)
[23:36] <GhostWolfy> does anyone here know how to use k9copy?
[23:36] <ZachK_> enduser000: give me five...need to create the error myself to understand
[23:36] <th1> Max-P, try acpi_listen does that show anything?
[23:36] <Sharok> hello everyone
[23:36] <Max-P> th1: it tells me that my keyboard batteries are at 70%, but the keyboard it pretty old and maybe don't even support this
[23:36] <Max-P> th1: will try
[23:36] <gionnico> hello
[23:36] <ObsidianX> joaopinto: i just dont see why if X is so much better at it :P
[23:36] <th1> Max-P, the receiver probably supports it :)
[23:36] <morydd> After running the upgrade t o 9.10, my system won't start up. I get "/: waiting for /dev/disk/by-uuid/{uuid}" If I hit "esc" to get to the recovery shell and run "dpkg --configure -a" I get "unable to access dpkg file area: read-only file system"
[23:36] <ZachK_> hello gionnico
[23:36] <enduser000> ZachK_: ok thanks, I made a user, deleted it, and then tried to log in
[23:36] <gionnico> how do i install openssh-server in 9.10?
[23:36] <Sharok> where can i get support for flash player?
[23:36] <gionnico> seems it's obsolete
[23:36] <Max-P> th1: command hangs and doesn't return anything
[23:36] <ZachK_> enduser000: did you make a different user before logging out?
[23:37] <ZachK_> Sharok: right here
[23:37] <lstarnes> Sharok: you could try asking here
[23:37] <th1> Max-P, that's normal unless there are events. try unplugging the power supply if its a laptop and you should see someting
[23:37] <Brando753> guys how long should it take to install the  upgrade not download / / in the terminal all it shows is "y"
[23:37] <ZoeyMarie> I installed a real time kernel, and while it works great with my soundcard, my usb wireless adapter stopped working. Any ideas on how I could fix this?
[23:37] <n8tuser> gionnico-> what happens when you do a sudo apt-get install open-sshserver?
[23:37] <Max-P> th1: since I putted on in level, the receiver stays on
[23:37] <ZachK_> Brando753: ah well hit the y key and then press enter
[23:37] <piero> how can I set a password and a background image in grub-pc (grub2??)
[23:37] <Max-P> th1: I will set it back to auto
[23:37] <piero> It was so easy in grub-legacy :(
[23:38] <Sharok> okay... So i "fixed" my flash player by installing the x64 one BUT one page makes it crash
[23:38] <th1> Max-P, maybe the driver is being over intelligent and doesn't think the device is in use.. if you keep it in level and it solves your problem I'd settle for that ;)
[23:38] <Sharok> before i fixed it, the pages was not crashing firefox
[23:38] <gionnico> n8tuser: open-sshserver?
[23:38] <n8tuser> Brando753-> it can take you a few hours if downloading stuff right now, many are accessing same servers
[23:38] <gionnico> not openssh-server ??
[23:38] <lstarnes> gionnico: openssh-server
[23:38] <n8tuser> gionnico-> something like that..
[23:38] <Max-P> th1: got battery events, nothing while I unplugged and plugged the receiver
[23:38] <Max-P> th1: sounds really like autosuspend
[23:38] <farchumbre> I upgraded to 9.10, i can't restart now, is there anyway to repair it or shall i install 9.04 again and erase the hard drive
[23:38] <th1> Max-P, yes but I don't know how to disable that, other than the solution you found
[23:38] <ZachK_> Brando753: are you typing "sudo apt-get upgrade"?
[23:39] <Sharok> Both flash player packages are bugged T_T what should i do?
[23:39] <weegi> any one offering pygame help?
[23:39] <Smoke1> anyone here good with soundcard issues i have a soundmax sound card and the buttons on it works ex: raising and lowering the volume as well as muteing  BUT i get no sound
[23:39] <th1> Max-P, you can add a udev rule to always echo "on" to the level file when the receiver is plugged in
[23:39] <Bodsda> weegi: try in #python
[23:39] <Max-P> th1: how do I do that?
[23:39] <ZachK_> farchumbre: stick in the install cd if you burned one and choose repair system from the installation menu
[23:39] <tbc> Hi. It's been quite a while since I was on this channel. I've been playing with Twitter as tbc0.
[23:39] <enduser000> ZachK_: I don't remember
[23:40] <farchumbre> ZachK: I don't have repair system option
[23:40] <astrojp> Does anyone know why the terminal still does not respond to 'CONTROL-C'? I still have to manually kill the process every time.
[23:40] <Brando753> ZachK_: no im using upgrade tool
[23:40] <ZachK_> !ops | Wombleness
[23:40] <th1> Max-P, create a rules file in /etc/udev/rules.d/99-my.rules and put an entry  as described here : http://www.reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html
[23:40] <weegi> Bodsda: #python does not appear to be a channel
[23:40] <lstarnes> weegi: it is
[23:40] <th1> its a bit involved#
[23:40] <tbc> I installed 9.10 and tried to install proprietary drivers. No joy. Is this a known bug?
[23:40] <lstarnes> weegi: but you must be registered with NickServ prior to joining
[23:40] <tbc> Live CD.
[23:41] <enduser000> ZachK_: I made the new user to change my normal uid (so I acn write to an apple hfs+ partition)
[23:41] <ZachK_> astrojp: it's ctrl + shift + c if you want to copy
[23:41] <Bodsda> weegi: trust me it is. You need to be authenticated to nickserv before you can join though
[23:41] <weegi> *facepalm
[23:41] <th1> Max-P, to test it run udevadm test /sys/bus/usb/devices/...
[23:41] <Brando753> ZachK_: here is what it looks like
[23:41] <weegi> kay
[23:41] <GhostWolfy> is there anyone here that knows how to use the program k9copy here? i need some help with it
[23:41] <Brando753> ZachK_: http://img101.photolava.com/2009/10/30/screenshot-distribution-upgrade-hkp48bnr.png
[23:41] <weegi> Bosda: i didnt know srry
[23:41] <MrWGW> ok I fixed it, yay
[23:41] <Bodsda> weegi: no worries
[23:41] <Bodsda> !yay > MrWGW
[23:41] <MrWGW> that that bug existed though was a huge wtf
[23:41] <Sharok> If i do not fix flash player, i will be forced to quit ubuntu, but i love using it D:
[23:42] <bhuey> Hello, is there an Intel Macbook channel that I can talk to folks about an issue I'm having with Karmic ?
[23:42] <th1> Max-P, it's the best way I can think of to fix it but it's not ideal :) at least it's a workaround
[23:42] <tbc> It's also been a while since I was in an IRC channel with 1.6K people in it. J
[23:42] <MrWGW> now I have one additional problem; Pidgin and empathy both, when someone IMs me, print an annoying and distracting notification to the screen
[23:42] <Juerd> I asked if there is a way to set the working directory for commands run with a custom keyboard shortcut. Solved the problem with a tiny shell script.
[23:42] <MrWGW> is there some way I can disable that?
[23:42] <mOrO^> Sharok, flash player installation should be a snap.
[23:42] <ZachK_> farchumbre: hmmm
[23:42] <Max-P> th1: I think I should repport that as a bug, like suggested by someone when I asked my question, but never did that =/
[23:42] <lstarnes> Sharok: you could try loading the 32-bit version of flash with nspluginwrapper
[23:42] <make0rbreak> bye guys
[23:42] <Sharok> flash player is heavily bugged on my pc
[23:42] <Bodsda> bhuey: I dont believe there is a specific channel for it, but if it is an ubuntu issue, it can be raised here
[23:42] <ZachK_> astrojp:
[23:42] <astrojp> ZachK_: My god, I feel like an idiot. :) That freaking worked!
[23:43] <th1> Max-P, I think you should, but it's always worth investigating as much as possible before reporting :) and either way a workaround is good to have, until it can be fixed. be sure to include the USB ID of the device in the bug report
[23:43] <Sharok> nspluginwrapper hum.....
[23:43] <ZachK_> astrojp: and it's ctrl + shift + v for pasting
[23:43] <bhuey> Bodsda: the track page on my MacBook doesn't work with the latest Karmic
[23:43] <nicklas_> Hux Flux - Idiot :-D
[23:43] <Max-P> th1: yeah but I never did bug reports so I wonder if it really worth it...
[23:43] <Sharok> where do i find nspluginwrapper
[23:43] <ZachK_> astrojp: don't worry...it took me forever myself to get used to that...
[23:43] <th1> Max-P, it's easy just type ubuntubug :)
[23:43] <Bodsda> bhuey: best to address the channel. I am no good with macs
[23:43] <bhuey> Bodsda: ok
[23:43] <lstarnes> Sharok: sudo apt-get install nspluginwrapper
[23:44] <th1> Max-P, sorry ubuntu-bug
[23:44] <bhuey> has anybody tried karmic on a macbook 2.1 ?
[23:44] <Sharok> thank you :)
[23:44] <ReAn> ubuntu seems to only be using one of my nic cards, how can i get it to use both?
[23:44] <bhuey> I was wondering what can be done about the trackpad no working on that platform ?
[23:44] <Sharok> it is already installed -.-
[23:44] <Sharok> so im dead D:
[23:44] <bhuey> that's ust about the only thing that's not working in that release. It was working in the previous jaunty install
[23:44] <gerald_> hi does anyone know of a good banshee lyrics plugin for jaunty
[23:45] <erUSUL> ReAn: use both ? detect both or use both as if it were only one (bonding)
[23:45] <lstarnes> Sharok: not quite
[23:45] <DopeGhoti> ReAn: first: it's NIC, not "NIC Card". The C stands for card. anyhow, pastebin the output of ifconfig if you please.
[23:45] <acad2> Is anybody in here interested in getting their blackberry to work on Ubuntu? Looking for someone with a blackberry to test a new program.
[23:45] <astrojp> Strange how the command to copy to clipboard also kills a process, always used Ctrl-C. Thanks again.
[23:45] <ZachK_> acad2: no not really
[23:45] <lstarnes> Sharok: check nspluginwrapper -l
[23:45] <mOrO^> Sharok, have you tried a linux program for flash ?
[23:45] <erUSUL> gerald_: default one does not work ?
[23:45] <ReAn> ok
[23:45] <ZachK_> astrojp: no prob my man
[23:45] <Sharok> linux program for flash?
[23:45] <Bodsda> astrojp: it is a design feature of BASH
[23:45] <weegi> REGISTER yoda42 wii.gii.2@gmail.com
[23:45] <usser> astrojp, ctrl+c is not the command to copy to clipboard, selection of text is :)
[23:45] <nerdy_kid> how do i install b43 driver without internet?  i know its fwcutter, but what do i do? please help
[23:45] <gerald_> erUSUL, can you point me to the default one?
[23:45] <Brando753> guys should ubuntu upgrde look like this http://img101.photolava.com/2009/10/30/screenshot-distribution-upgrade-hkp48bnr.png
[23:45] <Max-P> th1: I will do that later, I have homeworks to do before ;) Now that I can use my mouse without getting it freezing all time, I will do that first. Thanks a lot
[23:45] <Bodsda> Sharok: flashplugin-nonfree   or use  gnash
[23:45] <ZachK_> usser:  i got it...
[23:45] <erUSUL> gerald_: banshee-extension-lyrics
[23:45] <ReAn> let me clarify, u have 2 nics in my machine, it listed both in the install, but when i use ifconfig it only displays eth0 and the loopback device
[23:45] <weegi> yup that worked
[23:46] <th1> Max-P, you're welcome sorry I couldn't be of more help
[23:46] <th3raid0r> th1:  are you still here?
[23:46] <th1> th3raid0r, yes
[23:46] <siks> can anyone tell frm the top of their head how to configure gnome (well, metacity i guess) so if i grab a window with alt + right mouse i can resize it?
[23:46] <knoppies> acad2, I would help you out, but I dont have a blackberry. Got a 2003se PPC though.
[23:46] <Sharok> nonfree is bugged
[23:46] <Sharok> gonna try gnash
[23:46] <nomopofomo> anyone happen to know how i can decrypt pgp files in kde like i can in gnome?
[23:46] <kc> after installing 9.10 when attempting to boot into new install, all i get is "press a key to reboot", what's gone wrong?
[23:46] <bazhang> weegi, try again and use the server window; we all just saw that
[23:46] <th3raid0r> th1:  okay, here is my xorg.conf http://pastebin.com/m503528c
[23:46] <camadas> Guys what i need do on 9.10 to check my hardware  ? I cant find it on system->administraction
[23:46] <ASrock> is there a task manager for ubuntu like the one in windows?
[23:46] <erUSUL> ASrock: System>Admin>system monitor
[23:46] <ZachK_> kc: ah did you just finish installing?
[23:46] <gerald_> erUSUL, is it availbale through aptitude?
[23:46] <weegi> bazhang: lul, i know
[23:46] <Sharok> brb
[23:46] <acad2> knoppies: thanks! unfortunately i need someone with a blackberry & linux.
[23:46] <nerdy_kid> how do i use fwcutter to install wireless drivers
[23:46] <erUSUL> ASrock: there top and htop for terminals
[23:47] <kc> ZackK_: yes
[23:47] <Bodsda> ASrock: take a look at the 'top' and 'htop' commands - they are similar
[23:47] <erUSUL> gerald_: yes afaik
[23:47] <Max-P> th1: It's stille better than nothing. It's the first time I get help on IRC. Many times before, I simply got no answers at all
[23:47] <knoppies> acad2, you can put linux on a blackberry?
[23:47] <ZachK_> kc: have you removed the install cd yet?
[23:47] <usser> ASrock, iftop for networking
[23:47] <th1> th3raid0r, you need a line in Screen: Monitor "Default Monitor"
[23:47] <th1> th3raid0r, for it to pull the monitor def into your screen config
[23:47] <kc> ZackK_: yes, removed disk and reset boot order in bios
[23:47] <Bodsda> acad2: I have both
[23:47] <JarlG> Is it a bad idea to install a display driver from Ati.com? Will this driver perhaps provide extra functionality compared to the proprietary fglrx driver?
[23:47] <camadas> Guys what i need do on 9.10 to check my hardware  ? I cant find it on system->administraction
[23:47] <th3raid0r> th1:  and here is my log file http://pastebin.com/m12b39bd5
[23:47] <acad2> knoppies: no no- connecting a blackberry to linux. syncing contacts, emails, etc.
[23:47] <weegi> bazhang: how?
[23:48] <erUSUL> JarlG: is a bad idea...
[23:48] <mattgyver> Hey, has anyone had an issue with gnome-do not starting on login with 9.10 and fixed it??
[23:48] <knoppies> acad2, thats what I thought you meant first time round. Sorry i cant help.
[23:48] <usser> JarlG, driver from ati.com IS fglrx
[23:48] <bazhang> weegi, lets go to #freenode for this
[23:48] <ZachK_> kc: well you didn't need to reorder bios boot configuration....
[23:48] <Sharok> it failed
[23:48] <gerald_> erUSUL, thanks
[23:48] <tbc> Anyone have 9.10 on a 2133?
[23:48] <JarlG> erUSUL: Okay, thanks. :)
[23:48] <lee_> exit
[23:48] <weegi> kay
[23:48] <Sharok> why it is the only distro that flash NEVER works?
[23:48] <lee_> quit
[23:48] <tbc> Or any other platform using the proprietary Broadcom wireless driver?
[23:48] <Voldenet> Sharok: Wut?
[23:48] <th1> th3raid0r,  "No monitor specified for screen "Default Screen"       Using a default monitor configuration.
[23:48] <Bodsda> lee_: your missing a '/' before the commands
[23:48] <JarlG> usser: Aha, I had a SMALL hunch, thanks for confiming :)
[23:48] <kc> ZachK_: also tried "boot from first hard disk" from install disk
[23:48] <th1> th3raid0r, that's likely your probkem
[23:48] <gerald_> erUSUL, by the way what does afaik mean?
[23:49] <acad2> Bodsda: would you be interested in testing this program? It is basically a package with a script & GUI around barry that auto-configures it (a few simple questions).
[23:49] <Voldenet> Sharok, i installed flash without problems on 9.10
[23:49] <Sharok> i've tried many flash player packages and they all fail
[23:49] <ZachK_> kc: hmmm
[23:49] <Sharok> im on x64
[23:49] <th1> th3raid0r, if you add the line: Monitor "Default Monitor" into your Screen section it will probably work
[23:49] <th3raid0r> th1:  okay, i will adjust and come back with my results
[23:49] <Voldenet> Sharok, tried flash-nonfree? :-)
[23:49] <Sharok> yes
[23:49] <th1> th3raid0r, ok :) good luck
[23:49] <JarlG> gerald_: afaik = as far as I know
[23:49] <ZachK_> Sharok: where did you install package from?
[23:49] <Bodsda> acad2: sorry I am busy. Send me an email on the forums, my nick is Bodsda. Ill take a look some other time
[23:49] <Sharok> everything work fine except streaming video
[23:49] <Sharok> i mean, watching streams
[23:49] <gerald_> JarlG, ah thanks :)
[23:49] <Juerd> Hi. I have no sound since I installed 9.10 (from scratch).
[23:50] <ZachK_> Juerd: ok
[23:50] <Juerd> alsamixer shows no channels muted except microphone
[23:50] <LordFDisk> Is there a way to get Alsa back to my default/
[23:50] <Juerd> Can anyone suggest a solution? :)
[23:50] <erUSUL> gerald_: afaik as far as i know
[23:50] <sabat> I installed ubuntu 9.10, I'm on a wired network, and my internet speeds are absolutely crap, I get about 30k/sec tops from any site. my local network speeds are still fast, but my internet is almost like it's capped at 30k, any ideas?
[23:50] <gerald_> erUSUL, thanks
[23:51] <tbc> sabat: sorry, no. I'm trying to get wireless running on my 2133.
[23:51] <sabat> what's weird is it's 30k/sec TOTAL, I can hit multiple sites, and get multiple downloads going, but the total is never more than 30k/sec or so.
[23:51] <Sharok> i left ubuntu many times because flash don't works -.- im sick of this
[23:51] <shadowh511> gstreamer is encounreing a general stream error for every video file i use
[23:51] <fokuslee302> Q: hi want to dl the alternative install cd for x64 running intel
[23:51] <lockd> LordFDisk: you can uninstall all pulseaudio packages and install Debian's gnome-media packages (for volume control)
[23:51] <fokuslee302> is it the same as amd64?
[23:51] <lstarnes> fokuslee302: no
[23:51] <lockd> LordFDisk: the little media keys still won't work unless you bind them manually
[23:51] <lstarnes> fokuslee302: er
[23:52] <nomopofomo> can someone  please help me figure out how to decrypt pgp files in kubuntu?
[23:52] <erUSUL> fokuslee302: yes is the same
[23:52] <lstarnes> fokuslee302: it is the same
[23:52] <sabat> sharok: what do you mean no flash? works fine for me, I had to install the amd64 flash player, but that took, maybe 30 seconds?
[23:52] <luca> !it
[23:52] <fokuslee302> thanks
[23:52] <Sharok> i did and it crashes
[23:52] <erUSUL> nomopofomo: gpg --decrypt file
[23:52] <Sharok> anyway, gonna eat, brb
[23:52] <nomopofomo> erUSUL: thanks, is there a frontend for it?
[23:52] <Roey> losha, it's  called toram?
[23:53] <sabat> I'm about to go back to 9.04, this internet speed is HORRIBLE
[23:53] <erUSUL> nomopofomo: i do not use kde probably there is some extension for konqueror or dolphin or whatever filemanager...
[23:53] <erUSUL> nomopofomo: ask in #kubuntu
[23:53] <sabat> and nobody seems to have ANY ideas :P
[23:53] <qwyeth> So!  Karmic broke my network capability somehow.  my Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88E8001 Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 13) is working fine in the Jaunty live CD, but when I boot into Karmic it intermittently fails to recognize that an ethernet connection is present.  I have restarted the networking service and network manager, and also looked for a module to unload and reload (there isn't one, apparently it's compiled in).  The re
[23:53] <qwyeth> levant line in lspci is the same in Karmic as it is in Jaunty.  If I reboot the system, it will sometimes recognize a connection and work fine until the next time I reboot, or I may reboot 3 or 4 times without resolving the issue.
[23:53] <Bodsda> sabat: see if there is a bug report pn launchpad. If not, file one
[23:53] <th1> sabat, did you try the compat-wireless drivers?
[23:53] <nomopofomo> erUSUL: i was :P nobody knows. thanks for putting me on the right track, pgp was doing nothing in software manager
[23:54] <guido> #natal
[23:54] <sabat> I dont' have any wireless
[23:54] <ZachK_> !pastebin | qwyeth
[23:54] <zealiod> Can I have 3 vlans on the same subnet?
[23:54] <th1> sabat, ok :) there are some network driver issues in karmic
[23:54] <erUSUL> zealiod: ##networking ?
[23:54] <LordFDisk> lockd,  I have removed the pulseaudio and have no volume control ... so now it's on too the gnome-media packages ... so thank you I'll give it a try
[23:54] <sabat> this is wired, gigabit, I get 60mb/sec on my local network, and no more than 30k/sec over the internet, Even from ftp sites I used to get 500k/sec from
[23:54] <lockd> LordFDisk: yep, Ubuntu has removed gnome-volume-control.gstreamer
[23:54] <th1> overall I think karmic is a huge success, there are lots of people who have some prolems but hey compare that to when MS releases a new version and they only do it every 3-4 years :)
[23:54] <erUSUL> sabat: same router/modem ?
[23:54] <qwyeth> ZachK_: a single comment that is all conversational with no code that happens to flow over to a second line doesn't call for pastebin, IMO
[23:54] <sabat> ya
[23:55] <lockd> LordFDisk: gnome-volume-control-applet is pulseaudio only, even in debian gnome-media
[23:55] <qq99> what is wmaster0-00 network interface?
[23:55] <sabat> I was running 9.04 last night, installed 9.10, and now my network's basically capped at 30k. nvidia motherboard, with built on gigabit, connected to a procurve switch to a surfboard cablemodem
[23:55] <Sharok> im back, and i still got flash issues
[23:55] <Smoke1> anyone here good with soundcard issues i have a soundmax sound card and the buttons on it works ex: raising and lowering the volume as well as muteing  BUT i get no sound plz msg if u got any ideas tysvm in advance
[23:56] <erUSUL> qq99: a dummy interface used to configure some weird things
[23:56] <sabat> I can get on my xp laptop and hit that ftp right now, and get 460k/sec, if I connect from my ubuntu system, I get 22-25k/sec
[23:56] <erUSUL> qq99: normal uses do not need to touch that
[23:56] <th1> qq99, it's your wireless adapter's main control interface
[23:56] <Euvius> hello. how do i install msttcorefonts.  aptget keeps giving resolve errors.  or... how do i remove it from aptget upgrade list
[23:56] <sabat> 30k/sec feels like dialup
[23:56] <bazhang> Euvius, for arial.exe ?
[23:57] <th1> sabat, lol :)
[23:57] <ZoeyMarie> My wireless adapter doesn't work when I run the 686-multimedia real time kernel, though it works when I run the generic, how I would I get it to work? It's not listed when I lsusb, and I'm not sure what else to try.
[23:57] <meowbang> anyone interested in a 5sec boot ubuntu baised os
[23:57] <Euvius> bazhang, close.  andala
[23:57] <mom> i have a list of file names in a text file separated by a space . . . is there a way to insert it into a command?
[23:57] <th1> sabat, what ethernet adapter do you have?
[23:57] <Sharok> for peoples who say that flash x64 nonfree works well: chris.pirillo.com
[23:57] <Sharok> let it load
[23:57] <th3raid0r> th1: well, that wasn't it
[23:57] <WebcamWonder> Where can I find the list of "features" for karmic?
[23:57] <th1> th3raid0r, did you get a new log file?
[23:57] <Bodsda> meowbang: got one, its called Karmic
[23:57] <bazhang> Euvius, having the same issue myself
[23:57] <th3raid0r> th1:  of course, here it is http://pastebin.com/m6181e218
[23:57] <th1> th3raid0r, that part was certainly wrong in the old one
[23:57] <meowbang> Bodsda, openbox
[23:57] <sabat> 04:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 01)
[23:57] <th3raid0r> th1:  something about and edid
[23:58] <Euvius> bazhang, do you know how i can remove it from updating
[23:58] <fokuslee302> how do i resize the exisiting paritions using alternative install cd?
[23:58] <meowbang> Bodsda, but is that with only 100mb ram??
[23:58] <qq99> erUSUL do I ever need to worry about it?  and are all interfaces defined in /etc/network/interfaces (and if so, how does my wlan0 and eth0 get initialized if only iface lo is in that file?)
[23:58] <Bodsda> meowbang: openbox is a WM not a distro -- this is also not the time or the pkace to discuss it
[23:58] <fokuslee302> do i use parted? and will it handle ntfs?
[23:58] <bazhang> meowbang, is this on topic for Ubuntu support ? you are speaking of crunchbang?
[23:58] <meowbang> no
[23:58] <Sharok> idk what i sould do....
[23:59] <meowbang> a custem build
[23:59] <Smoke1> anyone here good with soundcard issues i have a soundmax sound card and the buttons on it works ex: raising and lowering the volume as well as muteing  BUT i get no sound plz msg if u got any ideas tysvm in advance
[23:59] <nerdy_kid> KaiForce sorry took so long i am trying to install b43 driver without internet
[23:59] <th1> th3raid0r, "Display1: No EDID information from DDC." and "Output DFP1 using monitor section Default Monitor"
[23:59] <th1> th3raid0r, those are the problems
[23:59] <bazhang> #ubuntu-offtopic please meowbang
[23:59] <Bodsda> meowbang: this is an ubuntu support channel. Please take offtopic chat somewhere else
[23:59] <meowbang> you have to compile it yourself from scratch
[23:59] <ZoeyMarie> what commands would I try if I wanted to diagnose why my usb wireless adapter isn't working when I run my realtime kernel?
[23:59] <th1> th3raid0r, is it connected to the analogue port?
[23:59] <Turl> hi, can you help me with a bootchart? http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/553461/HAF-932-karmic-20091030-2.png
[23:59] <DrRabbit> AAA_awright: Stop it.