| dtchen | ok, seriously, this is becoming ridiculous | 00:03 |
|---|---|---|
| BUGabundo | dtchen: ? | 00:04 |
| dtchen | just about two of every three "no sound" bugs coming in are caused by people running Jaunty's kernel in Karmic due to some grub-conffile-not-being-updated-properly snafu | 00:04 |
| BUGabundo | :) | 00:05 |
| dtchen | on one hand, it's pretty simple to script: it just looks mismatched DistroRelease and ProcVersionSignature | 00:05 |
| BUGabundo | how did that escape beta? | 00:05 |
| BUGabundo | lol | 00:05 |
| bdmurray | dtchen: I've done a dist-upgrade today and didn't see that. Do you have any more information? | 00:06 |
| dtchen | on another, it is really just a waste of my time | 00:06 |
| dtchen | bdmurray: I don't have any more | 00:06 |
| dtchen | but, I can just sling bugs your way | 00:06 |
| dtchen | my gmail account is cluttered with them | 00:06 |
| bdmurray | I've seen some of them | 00:06 |
| BUGabundo | bdmurray: users on 2.6.28 upgradng to karmic don't get grub to boot from 2.6.31 | 00:07 |
| BUGabundo | that's the result of the bug | 00:07 |
| BUGabundo | I still don't get why we aren't pushing grub-pc | 00:07 |
| BUGabundo | when are we expected to upgrade it? next cycle? | 00:07 |
| MsMaco | BUGabundo: but not ALL upgraders are hitting it | 00:08 |
| MsMaco | BUGabundo: thats whats got bdmurray and i confused. we both upgraded and havent hit it | 00:08 |
| BUGabundo | let me guess: diferent pockets enabled :) | 00:08 |
| MsMaco | s/i/me/ | 00:08 |
| dtchen | I wonder what FS type is being used. | 00:08 |
| dtchen | MsMaco: may I bother you to stick something in the forums shortly? | 00:09 |
| dtchen | sticky* | 00:09 |
| MsMaco | aye | 00:10 |
| MsMaco | np | 00:10 |
| * MsMaco scowls at laptop lid | 00:10 | |
| MsMaco | stay open! | 00:10 |
| MsMaco | dtchen: can i pxe boot a karmic i386 install from your laptop tonight? | 00:10 |
| MsMaco | this laptop has to go get fixed and the one i'll be switching the hard drive into cant run the amd64 installed on it and has a broken cd drive :( | 00:11 |
| BUGabundo | humm | 00:11 |
| BUGabundo | that reminds me | 00:11 |
| BUGabundo | we should have a *really* easy to install from PXE | 00:11 |
| BUGabundo | like an image that boot as server | 00:12 |
| BUGabundo | or a easy to setup service on a lan pc :) | 00:12 |
| dtchen | MsMaco: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8201048#post8201048 | 00:15 |
| dtchen | MsMaco: thanks, and sure | 00:15 |
| MsMaco | BUGabundo: it turns out it is easy. dtchen did it in like 5 minutes last time i had to install on that laptop | 00:16 |
| MsMaco | dtchen: stuck | 00:16 |
| BUGabundo | MsMaco: sure its easy for advanced users | 00:16 |
| MsMaco | BUGabundo: i got the impression it was like 3 commands or so | 00:17 |
| MsMaco | dtchen: no wonder people still think youre a core-dev. your forum banner still says "ubuntu developer" | 00:17 |
| dtchen | thanks | 00:17 |
| dtchen | that banner was only added this cycle IIRC | 00:17 |
| dtchen | timing for everything seems to be abysmal | 00:18 |
| BUGabundo | ehe | 00:18 |
| dtchen | anyhow, I really don't feel like spending my Friday night telling everyone to reboot into Karmic's kernel, but I'll end up doing it. | 00:18 |
| bcurtiswx | dtchen: had to look up IIRC.... i feel i've been around here forever but never long enough | 00:18 |
| bcurtiswx | <--- convo killer | 00:20 |
| MsMaco | bcurtiswx: install bsd-games and then you can get the wtf program. type "wtf iirc" in a terminal and itll define it for you :P | 00:22 |
| bcurtiswx | so, Lucid Lynx. Time to start thinking Lucid Milestones in bugs now.. or Karmic-updates? | 00:22 |
| dtchen | both, of course | 00:23 |
| dtchen | if you're lucky, you get bugs all the time, so it really doesn't matter | 00:23 |
| bcurtiswx | MsMaco: i've been on the interwebs for such a long time.. im appalled at myself for not knowing that | 00:23 |
| bcurtiswx | im afraid for empathy and triage once everyone gets their hands on it for Karmic.... | 00:24 |
| MsMaco | oh god yeah | 00:24 |
| bcurtiswx | its just too bugy IMO... shouldn't have included it quite yet | 00:24 |
| MsMaco | i got it to work once for video chat with wgrant | 00:25 |
| MsMaco | on the 3rd try | 00:25 |
| bcurtiswx | keyword: once | 00:25 |
| MsMaco | tried to repeat with dholbach the next day...6 tries...gave up | 00:25 |
| bcurtiswx | theres so much work that _needs_ to be done with it... all I can do is push ideas(bugs) their way, i don't know GTK+ to be helpful with patching etc.. | 00:26 |
| dtchen | MsMaco: even with the version in karmic-proposed? | 00:26 |
| MsMaco | this was a week ago | 00:27 |
| * MsMaco checks for updates | 00:27 | |
| bcurtiswx | yeah proposed... i got it but didn't check... i wonder if there were lots of bug fixes in it <goes and checks> | 00:27 |
| dtchen | well, yes, there are bug fixes | 00:27 |
| MsMaco | dtchen: i need to disable proxying through your apt-cacher, eh? | 00:27 |
| dtchen | MsMaco: well, I have it cached *here* | 00:28 |
| dtchen | you probably can't punch through the firewall, though | 00:28 |
| bcurtiswx | wow.. lucid toolchain uploaded already.. | 00:28 |
| MsMaco | dtchen: ok so yes | 00:28 |
| MsMaco | didnt know if youleft that laptop here and took the netbook with you :P | 00:28 |
| dtchen | I hate netbooks | 00:29 |
| dtchen | if it isn't "please actually boot into Karmic's kernel", it's "please install linux-backports-modules-alsa-karmic and reboot" | 00:29 |
| BUGabundo | bcurtiswx: *already* ?? | 00:30 |
| dtchen | however, that's a good thing -- I can easily be replaced by a robot! | 00:30 |
| bcurtiswx | probably not.. i just see lucid in http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=empathy | 00:30 |
| * BUGabundo backups apt sources | 00:30 | |
| MsMaco | dtchen: actually thats a good idea.... | 00:31 |
| MsMaco | jussi01: can ubottu be taught to tell people to run "sudo update-grub" if they dist-upgraded and lost sound? | 00:31 |
| bcurtiswx | MsMaco: that would make an interesting installfest.... | 00:31 |
| dtchen | MsMaco: err | 00:31 |
| mastermolch | hi, i did my first bug report 4 days ago about a sound card problem on my notebook with ubuntu 9.10. there was no reaction to it on launchpad. is there any way to speed up the fixing process. i would to help a bit more on fixing it, but i m just a normal user. | 00:31 |
| dtchen | that might not be a good bot-toid | 00:31 |
| chrisccoulson | bcurtiswx - that doesn't mean anything - the lucid version there was just pocket copied from karmic-proposed | 00:32 |
| dtchen | oh geez. | 00:32 |
| chrisccoulson | but yes, the toolchain is nearly uploaded | 00:32 |
| * bcurtiswx beats up packages.ubuntu.com | 00:32 | |
| MsMaco | hahahaha | 00:32 |
| dtchen | mastermolch: which bug number? | 00:32 |
| MsMaco | mastermolch: any chance you upgraded from jaunty to karmic? | 00:32 |
| mastermolch | 462283 | 00:32 |
| bcurtiswx | chrisccoulson: didn't waste any time | 00:32 |
| mastermolch | it is a fresh installation of karmic | 00:33 |
| dtchen | mastermolch: neither of them will be addressed immediately, as fixes require rather invasive changes to linux and pulseaudio. | 00:34 |
| dtchen | mastermolch: your non-stereo profile symptom is a dupe; search Launchpad. | 00:34 |
| dtchen | mastermolch: in other words, look for fixes in 10.04 LTS, not 9.10. | 00:35 |
| mastermolch | a dupe? you mean the reason is somewhere else? | 00:36 |
| dtchen | mastermolch: sorry to have to be the bearer of bad news. | 00:36 |
| dtchen | mastermolch: no, I'm saying that your non-stereo profile badness symptom has been reported about a half-dozen times before. | 00:36 |
| MsMaco | mastermolch: dupe = duplicate | 00:36 |
| mastermolch | it is ok, but i would like it to use it in april again :D | 00:36 |
| mastermolch | ok | 00:37 |
| dtchen | mastermolch: we'll likely have staging versions in the ubuntu-audio-dev PPA | 00:37 |
| mastermolch | i disabled pulseaudio in 9.04 and used alsa alone, but 9.10 has no guis for alsa now | 00:38 |
| mastermolch | it is not as easy to use alsa only now | 00:38 |
| dtchen | it's still quite straightforward | 00:38 |
| dtchen | create an ~/.asoundrc that re-redefines pcm.default and ctl.default | 00:38 |
| dtchen | or, rm /usr/share/alsa/pulse.conf | 00:39 |
| mastermolch | ok, i will read about it in the wiki again | 00:39 |
| dtchen | disable autospawn, etc. | 00:39 |
| mastermolch | ok, the 5.1 problem is not so hard for me, i use my headphones most time, so stereo is ok now, 5.1 is like a nice option for me on this computer | 00:42 |
| mastermolch | i just wondered why it behaves that strange | 00:42 |
| dtchen | 99% certain it's just mixer settings | 00:42 |
| dtchen | of course it'll end up being "well, alsa shouldn't be doing that" | 00:43 |
| MsMaco | are you ranting to yoursef again | 00:43 |
| MsMaco | ? | 00:43 |
| dtchen | who's ranting? | 00:43 |
| * bcurtiswx agrees with MsMaco | 00:44 | |
| * BUGabundo is confused with MsMaco new nick | 00:45 | |
| MsMaco | would you prefer /nick maco_isnt_using_quassel ? | 00:45 |
| mastermolch | ok, can you have a look to another bug i reported this week? | 00:46 |
| mastermolch | number: 462921 | 00:46 |
| mastermolch | maybe they need more information? | 00:46 |
| bcurtiswx | i prefer /nick maco_isnt_using_quassel_so_bugabundo_should_stop_asking_questions | 00:46 |
| MsMaco | bug 462921 | 00:47 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 462921 in xserver-xorg-video-intel "[i945GM] OpenGL problems on "Samsung Q25 Ruby" Notebook with i945GM graphics with Ubuntu 9.10" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/462921 | 00:47 |
| MsMaco | oh i have a 945 here... | 00:47 |
| mastermolch | i tried to use audacity yesterday, recording worked, but the playback was stuttering in the first seconds and audacity had a freeze later | 00:47 |
| BUGabundo | bcurtiswx: I didn't make a Q | 00:48 |
| mastermolch | i wonder a bit if this is connected to the other problem | 00:48 |
| bcurtiswx | BUGabundo: not yet.. :P | 00:48 |
| mastermolch | maybe it is a chipset problem and not a graphics problem | 00:48 |
| mastermolch | or i dont know | 00:48 |
| mastermolch | i just wondered if my bug report is right this wax | 00:48 |
| mastermolch | way | 00:48 |
| dtchen | mastermolch: 462921 is fine; it has already been marked Confirmed. Just hang tight, please. | 00:49 |
| dtchen | We all appreciate your enthusiasm, but things are pretty hectic the week of release. | 00:49 |
| mastermolch | yes sure, i forgot a bit :) i use karmic for 2 weeks now for testing. | 00:50 |
| mastermolch | but you are right | 00:50 |
| MsMaco | so when can we upgrade to lucid? | 00:51 |
| === yofel_ is now known as yofel | ||
| dtchen | it already exists (http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid/) | 00:52 |
| * BUGabundo claps hands | 00:57 | |
| MsMaco | yeah but there arent repos for it :P | 01:04 |
| BUGabundo | I'll just add it to sources | 01:09 |
| BUGabundo | once stuff comes porign in I'll get ut :) | 01:09 |
| BUGabundo | *it | 01:09 |
| monteiro | anyone knows a way to find a method in a set of files? | 02:23 |
| bcurtiswx | dtchen: not to beat a dead horse down or anything... but would you know why my sounds not working right now? | 04:08 |
| lifeless | bcurtiswx: boot into a karmic kernel | 04:09 |
| bcurtiswx | does it not do that by default? | 04:09 |
| bcurtiswx | lifeless: im in a karmic kernel... no sound | 04:12 |
| bcurtiswx | ah ha | 04:14 |
| bcurtiswx | its muted in a weird way | 04:14 |
| dtchen | bcurtiswx: as in zero/muted at login? | 04:18 |
| bcurtiswx | yeah | 04:19 |
| bcurtiswx | dtchen: ^^ | 04:19 |
| dtchen | that's probably the PA bug we've been chasing | 04:20 |
| bcurtiswx | dtchen: alrightie | 04:20 |
| dtchen | seems there's a regression in the move from module-volume-restore -> module-stream-restore | 04:20 |
| dtchen | from all accounts a race -- need to inspect it later | 04:21 |
| bcurtiswx | ah, ok.. gl! | 04:21 |
| deuxpi | someone seems to have a problem with some libraries not binding properly in bug 464734. User should probably run ldconfig, but is there anything else to look for? | 04:44 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 464734 in software-center "Ubuntu Software Center crashes on launch with ImportError in <module>()" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/464734 | 04:44 |
| trgbeck | ok I seen a flaw in Karmic it is in the mouse orientation to switch right to left handed doesnt work | 07:20 |
| trgbeck | ok I seen a flaw in Karmic it is in the mouse orientation to switch right to left handed doesnt work | 07:21 |
| ^arky^ | Hi, Anyone seen these ALSA underrun and wake errors http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/304936/ | 08:42 |
| ^arky^ | Is launchpad down, getting a lot of timeout errrors? | 09:25 |
| x3464 | Can anyone confirm the following bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.5/+bug/466299 | 09:57 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 466299 in firefox-3.5 "favicons are absent in "Bookmarks Toolbar"" [Undecided,New] | 09:58 |
| ikt | favicons working for me | 10:03 |
| ikt | have been updating since alpha 6 | 10:04 |
| ikt | broken in vm install of the ubuntu rc | 10:07 |
| x3464 | ikt: seems as though not a lot of people have noticed this bug because they've upgraded and not fresh installed the final. | 10:19 |
| ikt | the bug is present on the gold relase | 10:32 |
| joaopinto | hello | 11:26 |
| joaopinto | there are multiple bugs related to libsdl-alsa , does anyone see a problem on settimg them as duplicates ? | 11:26 |
| bddebian | Boo | 12:32 |
| anatolich | hi all! not sure it`s a bug, but grub2 does not write boot sector to a partition during installation. Can anybody consult me? | 12:34 |
| bala | hi, i have upgraded to karmic (dell 1525), and am unable to resume after suspend, is there anything i could do to fix this? | 13:18 |
| MrKanister | bala: I got exactly the same laptop (dell inspiron 1525). But I reinstalled Ubuntu instead of upgrading and suspend/resume works fine. | 13:21 |
| bala | MrKanister: unfortunately, i am not in a position to reinstall. :( | 13:22 |
| MrKanister | bala: Well, if you got a seperate partition for /home/, it would be very easy. If not do a backup, reinstall, and copy back the content to /home/ | 13:23 |
| bala | MrKanister: thanks. i will keep that in mind. meanwhile, i will try to look for something that wouldn't take as much time. if i can't find one, i will follow your way. | 13:26 |
| bala | MrKanister: but do you have any guess on what could have gone wrong? | 13:26 |
| MrKanister | bala: hm, as far as I know, suspend/resume has only to do with the kernel and the regarding drivers | 13:27 |
| MrKanister | bala: Maybe you can post your problem in a forum and attach them your dmesg-log ("dmesg > log.txt") in a terminal | 13:28 |
| bala | MrKanister: yup. unfortunately, my kde doesn't show options to shutdown and reboot anymore! | 13:28 |
| carresmd | For some reason running ubuntu in karmic disables 'DeviceKit' suspend functionallity. Can someone confirm this for me using the following python script? http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/2416123/test_suspend.py | 14:13 |
| carresmd | oops | 14:14 |
| carresmd | I meant running karmic in virtualbox | 14:14 |
| carresmd | It used to work in karmic beta. And I haven't seen anything in the virtualbox changelog which might have caused this. | 14:21 |
| carresmd | no one willing to help? | 14:36 |
| JonyBlaze | i would if i had karmic installed in a virtualbox but i dont :| | 14:38 |
| carresmd | JonyBlaze, yeah I sounded a bit harsh didn't I? | 14:50 |
| carresmd | JonyBlaze, sorry about that | 14:50 |
| Sauliusl | hey there | 14:56 |
| Sauliusl | got completely lost trying to fix asus run hotkey (fn+space) after updating to 9.10 | 14:56 |
| caio | anyone knows what is this? http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/1355/karmicgnomepanel.png | 14:57 |
| Sauliusl | > ~$ sudo /lib/udev/keymap -i input/event8 | 14:57 |
| Sauliusl | scan code: 0x00 key code: screenlock | 14:57 |
| Sauliusl | scan code: 0x00 key code: 14A | 14:57 |
| Sauliusl | scan code: 0x00 key code: prog1 | 14:57 |
| Sauliusl | how I am supposed to assign a keymap to 0x00's ? | 14:57 |
| caio | :( | 14:58 |
| caio | Sorry, the program "telepathy-butterfly" closed unexpectely | 15:00 |
| caio | buggy koala | 15:01 |
| carresmd | caio, looks like a graphical glitch to me | 15:03 |
| caio | it appears in the login screen too.. | 15:05 |
| caio | very strange and irritating, blinking every time :( | 15:05 |
| carresmd | caio, are you using a proprietary video driver? | 15:07 |
| carresmd | Sauliusl, are you using somekind of guide? If so, can you give me the url? | 15:09 |
| Sauliusl | carresmd https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Hotkeys/Troubleshooting | 15:09 |
| caio | carresmd: nvidia... | 15:10 |
| Sauliusl | and /usr/share/doc/udev/README.keymap.txt | 15:10 |
| carresmd | caio, can you check if it happens without using the proprietary driver? | 15:11 |
| carresmd | Sauliusl, what is fn+space supposed to do? | 15:13 |
| Sauliusl | I don't actually remember, though it has a running man symbol, so I call it "run" key | 15:14 |
| Sauliusl | though that is not screenlock | 15:14 |
| Sauliusl | at all | 15:14 |
| carresmd | Sauliusl, so currently if you press fn+space it locks your screen? | 15:15 |
| Sauliusl | the keypress event gets detected by acpi_listen, by lshal-m, | 15:15 |
| Sauliusl | xev lists it as keymapNotify and the keymap -i shows all multimedia key scan codes 0x00 | 15:15 |
| Sauliusl | yes it does | 15:16 |
| Sauliusl | unless i kill gnome-screensaver | 15:16 |
| Sauliusl | the key did not work at all at jaunty, though i was able to easily patch it adding script to acpi/events | 15:18 |
| Sauliusl | though now, when I do that it executes both: my script, and the lock screen binding | 15:18 |
| carresmd | Sauliusl, what does '$ grep -ir screenlock /lib/udev/keymaps/' outpyt? | 15:20 |
| carresmd | !paste | Sauliusl | 15:20 |
| ubot4 | Sauliusl: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com (or !pastebinit for CLI) | For pasting !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin Please give us the URLs for your posts! | 15:20 |
| Sauliusl | http://paste.ubuntu.com/305982/ | 15:21 |
| Sauliusl | I still wonder why all multimedia keys have the same scancode, but different assigments to them (and they actually work) | 15:23 |
| carresmd | Sauliusl, they all are 0x00? | 15:23 |
| Sauliusl | yes | 15:23 |
| carresmd | Sauliusl, missed that | 15:23 |
| Sauliusl | http://paste.ubuntu.com/305986/ that is weird | 15:25 |
| Sauliusl | isnt it? | 15:25 |
| carresmd | yeah, it isn't supposed to be like that | 15:26 |
| Sauliusl | and the keymap's dump for input/event8 | 15:27 |
| Sauliusl | contains only a single line: ### evdev 1.0.0., driver 'Asus Laptop extra buttons' | 15:27 |
| carresmd | what is you change 'input/event8' to 'input/event<nummer>' replace <number> with a number ^^. Check which are available via '$ ls -l /dev/input/' | 15:28 |
| Sauliusl | input/event4 is for regular keyboard keys | 15:29 |
| Sauliusl | input/event8 is for multimedia | 15:29 |
| Sauliusl | event4 does not detect the multimedia, nor event8 detects regular keypresses | 15:29 |
| carresmd | Sauliusl, hmm didn't know that :-) | 15:29 |
| Sauliusl | :) | 15:30 |
| carresmd | input/event4 is for multimedia keys on my machine :S | 15:31 |
| Sauliusl | i guess you're not on asus, are you? | 15:31 |
| carresmd | true | 15:31 |
| Sauliusl | i think I should submit this into tracker | 15:32 |
| Sauliusl | though i am not sure where the problem is exactly so dont know which package to add the bug to | 15:32 |
| carresmd | probably udev | 15:33 |
| carresmd | https://bugs.launchpad.net/udev-extras/+bugs | 15:33 |
| Sauliusl | why is launchpad so slow? | 15:34 |
| Sauliusl | There are currently no open bugs. | 15:34 |
| Sauliusl | thats awesome :D | 15:34 |
| carresmd | lol | 15:35 |
| Sauliusl | Udev extras does not use Launchpad as its bug tracker. | 15:35 |
| carresmd | it isn't slow for me | 15:35 |
| Sauliusl | hah | 15:35 |
| carresmd | no I saw it | 15:35 |
| carresmd | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/udev-extras | 15:35 |
| carresmd | Ooopss! Sauliusl, don't report it in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/udev-extras .. it's old | 15:45 |
| Sauliusl | :D | 15:45 |
| Sauliusl | ha | 15:45 |
| carresmd | if you haven't already done so, report it in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/udev :-) | 15:45 |
| Sauliusl | alright | 15:46 |
| mlourenco | 9.10 Samba bug - invoke-rc.d: initscript samba, action "start" failed....can anyone help? | 17:09 |
| dtchen | that's insufficient info; we need the spew prior | 17:13 |
| mlourenco | what does it look like/start with? | 17:17 |
| dtchen | the entire upgrade log? | 17:18 |
| mlourenco | how do get you the entire log? | 17:19 |
| === yoasif_ is now known as yoasif | ||
| dtchen | I presume you didn't use apport-bug/ubuntu-bug? | 17:21 |
| dtchen | if not, see /var/log/apt/term.log and /var/log/dpkg.log | 17:22 |
| mlourenco | Log started: 2009-10-31 13:19:02 | 17:32 |
| mlourenco | Selecting previously deselected package samba. | 17:32 |
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| mlourenco | (Reading database ... 163031 files and directories currently installed.) | 17:32 |
| mlourenco | Unpacking samba (from .../samba_2%3a3.4.0-3ubuntu5_i386.deb) ... | 17:32 |
| mlourenco | Processing triggers for man-db ... | 17:32 |
| mlourenco | Processing triggers for ufw ... | 17:32 |
| mlourenco | Processing triggers for sreadahead ... | 17:32 |
| mlourenco | Setting up samba (2:3.4.0-3ubuntu5) ... | 17:32 |
| mlourenco | update-alternatives: using /usr/bin/smbstatus.samba3 to provide /usr/bin/smbstatus (smbstatus) in auto mode. | 17:33 |
| mlourenco | Generating /etc/default/samba... | 17:33 |
| mlourenco | * Starting Samba daemons | 17:33 |
| mlourenco | ...fail! | 17:33 |
| mac_v | wth! | 17:33 |
| mlourenco | invoke-rc.d: initscript samba, action "start" failed. | 17:33 |
| mlourenco | dpkg: error processing samba (--configure): | 17:33 |
| mlourenco | subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1 | 17:33 |
| mlourenco | Errors were encountered while processing: | 17:33 |
| mlourenco | samba | 17:33 |
| mlourenco | Log ended: 2009-10-31 13:19:07 | 17:33 |
| mac_v | mlourenco: pls use pastebin | 17:33 |
| mlourenco | what's the syntax for pastebin? | 17:34 |
| mac_v | !pastebin | 17:34 |
| ubot4 | pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic | 17:34 |
| mlourenco | how do i send a msg directly to a user like you did :mac_v | 17:36 |
| mac_v | mlourenco: not needed again , but for future reference | 17:36 |
| mac_v | mlourenco: hmm? what msg directly? i didnt message anything :) | 17:37 |
| mac_v | oh you mean this > ? <mac_v> mlourenco: pls use pastebin | 17:37 |
| mlourenco | yes | 17:38 |
| mac_v | type the initial letter of the username and use tab key for auto completion , like for your name i just use "mlo" +tabkey | 17:38 |
| mlourenco | mac_v, testing | 17:39 |
| mac_v | thats it :) | 17:39 |
| mlourenco | thx! | 17:39 |
| mlourenco | dtchen, 2009-10-31 13:19:02 startup archives unpack | 17:40 |
| mlourenco | 2009-10-31 13:19:02 install samba <none> 2:3.4.0-3ubuntu5 | 17:40 |
| mlourenco | 2009-10-31 13:19:02 status half-installed samba 2:3.4.0-3ubuntu5 | 17:40 |
| mlourenco | 2009-10-31 13:19:03 status triggers-pending man-db 2.5.6-2 | 17:40 |
| mlourenco | 2009-10-31 13:19:03 status half-installed samba 2:3.4.0-3ubuntu5 | 17:40 |
| mlourenco | 2009-10-31 13:19:03 status triggers-pending ufw 0.29-4ubuntu1 | 17:40 |
| mlourenco | 2009-10-31 13:19:03 status half-installed samba 2:3.4.0-3ubuntu5 | 17:40 |
| mlourenco | 2009-10-31 13:19:03 status triggers-pending sreadahead 1.0-5 | 17:40 |
| mlourenco | 2009-10-31 13:19:03 status half-installed samba 2:3.4.0-3ubuntu5 | 17:40 |
| mlourenco | 2009-10-31 13:19:03 status unpacked samba 2:3.4.0-3ubuntu5 | 17:40 |
| mlourenco | 2009-10-31 13:19:03 status unpacked samba 2:3.4.0-3ubuntu5 | 17:40 |
| mac_v | mlourenco: pls use pastebin! | 17:40 |
| mlourenco | 2009-10-31 13:19:03 trigproc man-db 2.5.6-2 2.5.6-2 | 17:40 |
| mlourenco | 2009-10-31 13:19:03 status half-configured man-db 2.5.6-2 | 17:40 |
| mlourenco | 2009-10-31 13:19:03 status installed man-db 2.5.6-2 | 17:40 |
| mlourenco | 2009-10-31 13:19:03 trigproc ufw 0.29-4ubuntu1 0.29-4ubuntu1 | 17:40 |
| mac_v | mlourenco: not copy paste lines here! | 17:40 |
| mlourenco | 2009-10-31 13:19:03 status half-configured ufw 0.29-4ubuntu1 | 17:40 |
| mlourenco | 2009-10-31 13:19:04 status installed ufw 0.29-4ubuntu1 | 17:40 |
| mlourenco | 2009-10-31 13:19:04 trigproc sreadahead 1.0-5 1.0-5 | 17:40 |
| mlourenco | 2009-10-31 13:19:04 status half-configured sreadahead 1.0-5 | 17:40 |
| mlourenco | 2009-10-31 13:19:04 status installed sreadahead 1.0-5 | 17:40 |
| mlourenco | 2009-10-31 13:19:05 startup packages configure | 17:40 |
| mlourenco | 2009-10-31 13:19:05 configure samba 2:3.4.0-3ubuntu5 2:3.4.0-3ubuntu5 | 17:41 |
| mlourenco | 2009-10-31 13:19:05 status unpacked samba 2:3.4.0-3ubuntu5 | 17:41 |
| mlourenco | 2009-10-31 13:19:05 status unpacked samba 2:3.4.0-3ubuntu5 | 17:41 |
| mlourenco | 2009-10-31 13:19:05 status unpacked samba 2:3.4.0-3ubuntu5 | 17:41 |
| mlourenco | 2009-10-31 13:19:05 status unpacked samba 2:3.4.0-3ubuntu5 | 17:41 |
| mac_v | !ops | 17:41 |
| ubot4 | Help! Seveas, Hobbsee, gnomefreak, coleSLAW, or dholbach | 17:41 |
| mlourenco | 2009-10-31 13:19:05 status unpacked samba 2:3.4.0-3ubuntu5 | 17:41 |
| mlourenco | 2009-10-31 13:19:05 status half-configured samba 2:3.4.0-3ubuntu5 | 17:41 |
| mlourenco | 2009-10-31 13:19:05 update-alternatives: run with --install /usr/bin/smbstatus smbstatus /usr/bin/smbstatus.samba3 10 --slave /usr/share/man/man1/smbstatus.1.gz smbstatus.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1/smbstatus.samba3.1.gz | 17:41 |
| mlourenco | 2009-10-31 13:19:05 update-alternatives: link group smbstatus updated to point to /usr/bin/smbstatus.samba3 | 17:41 |
| mlourenco | 2009-10-31 13:19:06 update-alternatives: run with --install /usr/bin/smbstatus smbstatus /usr/bin/smbstatus.samba3 10 --slave /usr/share/man/man1/smbstatus.1.gz smbstatus.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1/smbstatus.samba3.1.gz | 17:41 |
| mlourenco | 2009-10-31 13:19:07 startup packages configure | 17:41 |
| mlourenco | 2009-10-31 13:19:07 configure samba 2:3.4.0-3ubuntu5 2:3.4.0-3ubuntu5 | 17:41 |
| mlourenco | 2009-10-31 13:19:07 status half-configured samba 2:3.4.0-3ubuntu5 | 17:41 |
| mlourenco | 2009-10-31 13:19:07 update-alternatives: run with --install /usr/bin/smbstatus smbstatus /usr/bin/smbstatus.samba3 10 --slave /usr/share/man/man1/smbstatus.1.gz smbstatus.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1/smbstatus.samba3.1.gz | 17:41 |
| mlourenco | 2009-10-31 13:19:08 update-alternatives: run with --install /usr/bin/smbstatus smbstatus /usr/bin/smbstatus.samba3 10 --slave /usr/share/man/man1/smbstatus.1.gz smbstatus.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1/smbstatus.samba3.1.gz | 17:41 |
| mlourenco | !pastebin | 17:41 |
| ubot4 | pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic | 17:41 |
| mac_v | mlourenco: pls do *not* paste multiple lines in the channel , use pastebin if someone has saked for information | 17:42 |
| mac_v | asked for* | 17:43 |
| mlourenco | dtchen, http://paste.ubuntu.com/306073/ | 17:45 |
| dtchen | sorry, I'm busy debugging another sound issue ATM, will look in ~30 minutes | 17:46 |
| mlourenco | dtchen, no problem. | 17:48 |
| dtchen | is there a Thibault DUPUIS present? | 18:02 |
| dtchen | ok, so more info for people triaging audio bugs: | 18:03 |
| dtchen | if you see that a reporter's symptoms are resolved by installing linux-backports-modules-alsa-karmic-generic, please make the following changes to the bug report: | 18:03 |
| dtchen | Change the affected source package to linux, and mark it Fix Committed with Importance Low | 18:03 |
| dtchen | Add a linux-backports-modules-2.6.31 task, and mark it Fix Released | 18:03 |
| dtchen | thanks! | 18:03 |
| dtchen | (if you have a burning question and I'm not responding, contact maco/MsMaco, and she can relay it) | 18:04 |
| MsMaco | how can i relay it? you're not home! | 18:06 |
| MsMaco | dtchen: ^ | 18:06 |
| joaopinto | dtchen, that should be added to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting | 18:07 |
| joaopinto | dtchen, is the alsa from linux-backports expected to fix problems when there is no sound with PA running, but plays fine without PA ? | 18:22 |
| dtchen | joaopinto: no, it isn't | 18:31 |
| joaopinto | hum ok :\ | 18:32 |
| joaopinto | any hints ? | 18:32 |
| dtchen | joaopinto: it's limited to specific hardware (namely, Realtek and IDT/Sigmatel HDA codecs) | 18:32 |
| dtchen | MsMaco: you can SMS | 18:32 |
| joaopinto | how does pulseaudio interfere in such a way that there is no sound playback when ALSA plays just fine ? | 18:32 |
| MsMaco | dtchen: ohok | 18:33 |
| dtchen | joaopinto: PA has its own set of mixer profiles. | 18:34 |
| joaopinto | so in this case is most likely to be a PA bug at the mixer level ? | 18:35 |
| dtchen | joaopinto: and no, the triaging procedure is for people who triage bugs (bugcontrol, etc.) | 18:35 |
| dtchen | in "this" case? | 18:35 |
| joaopinto | dtchen, ok | 18:35 |
| dtchen | there is no one catch-all case | 18:35 |
| dtchen | every single bug needs to be evaluated individually | 18:36 |
| joaopinto | dtchen, aplay plais fine without PA, no sound with PA | 18:36 |
| dtchen | joaopinto: in that particular set of symptoms, you look at the output from 'amixer' with and without PA running. | 18:36 |
| joaopinto | it will report different values ? | 18:37 |
| dtchen | if that doesn't reveal anything, that's a much bigger problem, and you need to use codec debugging, e.g., wiki/ALSA/JackSense | 18:37 |
| joaopinto | erm, I am still missing something, does PA contain codec specific code ? isn't that the ALSA level only ? | 18:37 |
| dtchen | it *should* reveal different values | 18:40 |
| dtchen | if it *doesn't*, you have either a linux bug or a hardware bug | 18:40 |
| dtchen | hence my referring to codec debugging | 18:40 |
| dtchen | PA doesn't (and can't) meddle with the codec directly -- everything is proxied through alsa-lib by design | 18:40 |
| dtchen | finally finished triaging this morning's round of 50 "grub didn't update properly" bugs | 18:42 |
| joaopinto | erm, an HW bug which is triggered by the PA mixer but not but by ALSA mixer ? | 18:42 |
| dtchen | joaopinto: the PA mixer *is* the ALSA mixer | 18:42 |
| dtchen | joaopinto: there is no difference | 18:42 |
| dtchen | joaopinto: I simply explained every conceivable problem | 18:42 |
| joaopinto | dtchen, you mentioned mixing profiles, so there is an extra level of management in PA, regarless if the backend is the alsa mixer | 18:42 |
| dtchen | joaopinto: yes, but the fact that it touches the alsa mixer is the only relevant portion | 18:43 |
| joaopinto | dtchen, I am trying to understand this particular scenario, where you have 0 sound with PA, and regular mixed sound without it | 18:43 |
| dtchen | if it works fine w/o PA, then you look at the mixer element settings before and after running PA | 18:43 |
| dtchen | it *should* be obvious which mixer elements have been modified | 18:44 |
| dtchen | if it *isn't*, you have a *serious* codec bug | 18:44 |
| dtchen | some HDA and AC'97 codecs *do* have these sort of bugs -- they will incorrectly cache their codec settings without actually updating upon read | 18:44 |
| dtchen | in that case, the only way to troubleshoot is to require a full powercycle where you wait 2-3 minutes between powering down and powering on to allow the capacitors to drain | 18:45 |
| joaopinto | ok, next time i will check the amixer output, tks | 18:46 |
| dtchen | FWIW, for some small percentage of the codecs, you can reset all the pins after completely unloading and reloading the sound driver, but you need hda-analyzer | 18:47 |
| dtchen | so, to summarise: check the amixer settings before and after PA is running (usually prior to gdm's greeter being started) | 18:48 |
| joaopinto | ok | 18:49 |
| dtchen | mlourenco: I don't think that pastebin url contains everything I asked for | 18:53 |
| === asac_ is now known as asac | ||
| dtchen | welp, that's certainly one way to prevent people from filing bugs via the LP web ui. Just OOPS. :-) | 19:03 |
| MsMaco | haha | 19:23 |
| MsMaco | dtchen: you told me to ask for /boot/grub/grub.cfg on here, but i dont know what to do with it http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1307155 | 19:32 |
| dtchen | MsMaco: hd0,1 should never be a floppy drive. | 19:41 |
| dtchen | MsMaco: the reporter needs to check her/his bios settings more closely | 19:41 |
| jthill | So, I'm guessing that I'm one of very, very few people who ran jaunty with a root partition mounted data=ordered? | 19:46 |
| MsMaco | dtchen: ok... | 19:48 |
| MsMaco | dtchen: im still not sure what to tell them | 19:48 |
| jthill | not sure if it's new with the karmic version of mount or what, but after upgrade the initial root mount was ro,data=writeback, which mount refuses to remount as rw,data=ordered | 19:50 |
| jthill | guess what that did when i rebooted my shiny new karmic system | 19:50 |
| jthill | All better now, I did the manual mount to rw,data=writeback and fixed my fstab. | 19:52 |
| jthill | I don't see any bugs regarding this and wonder if I should even bother reporting it since it seems nobody else has hit it yet. | 19:53 |
| dtchen | report it, please. | 19:53 |
| dtchen | ubuntu-bug linux, etc. | 19:54 |
| jthill | then that's what I'll do, thanks | 19:54 |
| dtchen | MsMaco: walk her/him through checking the UUI | 19:55 |
| dtchen | UUID* | 19:55 |
| MsMaco | ... | 19:56 |
| MsMaco | i dont know how | 19:56 |
| dtchen | man blkid | 19:59 |
| MsMaco | thanks | 19:59 |
| MsMaco | i assumed itd be one of the uuid* commands but thats not it | 19:59 |
| malikkit1 | hi | 20:35 |
| tanath | can someone help me with what package to file a bug report in? | 20:37 |
| tanath | i get random freezing | 20:39 |
| MsMaco | kernel panic, or X freezing? | 20:41 |
| MsMaco | if caps lock and num lock and such lights are flashing, its the former. if not, likely the latter | 20:41 |
| tanath | sometimes the kernel freezes (panicked once) sometimes not | 20:41 |
| tanath | it's very random :-/ | 20:41 |
| tanath | i can find no commonality | 20:42 |
| MsMaco | thats always fun | 20:42 |
| tanath | but it started after karmic release | 20:42 |
| MsMaco | which has new both... | 20:42 |
| tanath | been using karmic for months. didn't have this before | 20:42 |
| MsMaco | well if you know 1 was a panic, try "ubuntu-bug linux" | 20:42 |
| adiroiban | Hi. Do you know how I should report upstream a VIM ? | 20:43 |
| adiroiban | ah... found it. | 20:43 |
| MsMaco | hi adiroiban | 20:43 |
| tanath | mcas, not sure i'll be able to run it | 20:44 |
| tanath | oops | 20:44 |
| tanath | meant MsMaco | 20:44 |
| adiroiban | it looks like the project is vimonline | 20:44 |
| MsMaco | tanath: that reports the bug to launchpad.net | 20:44 |
| tanath | i know | 20:44 |
| tanath | i mean, if i run it, there's a good chance it'll freeze again | 20:44 |
| tanath | MsMaco, many apps seems to cause it to freeze (sometimes immediately, sometimes not...) | 20:46 |
| tanath | particularly gnome apps | 20:46 |
| MsMaco | if you do it from a tty it wont launch any gui apps | 20:46 |
| tanath | that's not true | 20:47 |
| tanath | i just did, and it ran apport | 20:47 |
| tanath | and now won't let me cancel | 20:47 |
| MsMaco | hmm? | 20:47 |
| MsMaco | wait did you do that from a terminal inside X? | 20:47 |
| MsMaco | or did you do it from ctrl+alt+f1? | 20:47 |
| tanath | well, yeah | 20:47 |
| MsMaco | because from a tty it should say "hey, i'm not running inside X, so i'll use apport-cli..." | 20:48 |
| tanath | yeah, it did. it should do the same in a terminal too >.< | 20:48 |
| tanath | well, that's debatable. nvm | 20:48 |
| tanath | was annoying that it ignored my persistent clicking of the cancel button though >.< | 20:49 |
| MsMaco | yeah.... | 20:49 |
| tanath | um, vty one says it'll open a web browser... | 20:50 |
| MsMaco | does it open w3m? | 20:50 |
| tanath | not sure that'll work from vty, but if it does, it'd prolly freeze the comp | 20:51 |
| tanath | not sure i want to find out. my default browser is chrome, and it frequently seems related to freezing | 20:51 |
| tanath | um, the file it wants to send is 173MB o.O | 20:52 |
| tanath | *report | 20:52 |
| MsMaco | w3m is a text based web browser | 20:52 |
| tanath | isn't that a bit much? | 20:53 |
| tanath | ah, i think my default text-based browser is elinks | 20:53 |
| MsMaco | sounds like it, yeah... | 20:53 |
| tanath | which i still don't like that much :P | 20:53 |
| tanath | 173.4mb | 20:54 |
| JanC | there is also a way to make a bug report and then upload it on another PC | 20:54 |
| tanath | oi | 20:54 |
| tanath | just this one :-/ | 20:54 |
| tanath | why would it be so big? | 20:55 |
| tanath | that'll take some time to upload, and it might freeze before it finishes, tbh | 20:55 |
| tanath | i'm surprised it hasn't frozen yet TBH | 20:56 |
| JanC | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs#Filing%20bugs%20when%20off-line | 20:56 |
| tanath | yeah, already chose keep | 20:57 |
| tanath | i was wondering if someone here might be able to help me narrow it down | 20:58 |
| tanath | i could do a better report if i knew where the problem was | 20:59 |
| JanC | run memtest overnight? ;) | 20:59 |
| tanath | oi. i'd like to be able to use my comp sooner than that :P | 21:02 |
| tanath | but i've run memtest for a while before. i don't think the ram is the issue | 21:02 |
| tanath | aw hell | 21:13 |
| tanath | 'something went wrong in launchpad' | 21:13 |
| tanath | i can't file my bug report | 21:18 |
| tanath | it keeps saying something went wrong | 21:18 |
| tanath | mm, trying the redirect disable | 21:19 |
| tanath | there we go | 21:19 |
| mlourenco | 9.10 Samba bug - invoke-rc.d: initscript samba, action "start" failed....can anyone help? | 21:50 |
| mlourenco | error happens on the installation. | 21:51 |
| === ebb is now known as ebbeyes | ||
| kklimonda | is there some bug related to upgrading kernel? | 23:01 |
| kklimonda | I've seen again problem which was related to running 2.6.28 kernel on 9.10 system | 23:01 |
| kklimonda | he has .31 installed but it didn't show up in his menu.lst | 23:02 |
| === yofel_ is now known as yofel | ||
| ikt | yeah I've seen that as well kklimonda | 23:36 |
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