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sistpotyjdong: mind taking a look at sru bug #405318 (I peer-reviewed the patches during motu-release handling, all look fine and these come from upstream)01:08
ubottuLaunchpad bug 405318 in lmms "various patches" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/40531801:08
sistpoty(sitting already in -proposed)01:08
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jdongheh, WTF at bug 32808905:02
ubottuLaunchpad bug 328089 in splashy "[Jaunty] splashy 0.3.13-3ubuntu1 fresh install conflicts with lsb-base" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/32808905:02
jdongwhy don't we just directly yank obviously broken packages out of the archive?05:02
jdongI mean, kudos for wanting to fix it the right way (lsb-base)... but until then it's a BOOOM for anyone unfortunate enough to try installing splashy from the repos.05:03
ScottKjdong: We do when we notice them.05:05
jdongScottK: *nods* it's just unfortunate we had so many people looking at the bug and nobody waved the big red flag...05:06
jdongeven some people with the power to pull the plug05:06
ScottKThere's always the SRU to an empty package strategy05:06
jdongwell I'd rather we SRU out the lsb-base-logging.sh file for now or something else that compromises splashy without borking the package manager05:07
jdongneither synaptic nor the Update Manager handles the case of a half-installed package correctly....05:07
jdongi.e. by backing out the chain of reverse-deps that caused it to be installed05:08
lifelessuhm05:21
lifelesswe don't support downgrading05:21
lifelessthats the most proximate cause05:21
ScottKRight, but we should support install failing gracefully.05:21
jdonglifeless: well if I double click splashy in synaptic and mark it for install and hit apply...05:24
jdongit'll tell me that the package is broken and to look at the broken filter.05:24
jdongwhich is... not an intuitive message as to how to make my package manager work again.05:24
jdongand at that point, update-manager gives equally confusing errors05:24
jdongand to the end user there's not a readily obvious way to recover05:24
ScottKKpackagekit recommends use of a full featured packagemanager like synaptic or aptitude in these situations.05:26
jdong*nods*05:36
ScottKNot only is kpackagekit unsuitable as standard package manager for Kubuntu.  It's not clear to me that it actually aspires to be suitable.05:46
jdonglol that is a hilarious admission of defeat from kpackagekit05:48
lifelessjdong: file a bug about synaptic bailing in that regard05:54
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hyperairbdmurray: re bug #463974, is there a reason you switched the visibility back to private?08:04
ubottuBug 463974 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/463974 is private08:04
^arky^Hi, Anyone seen these ALSA underrun and wake errors http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/304936/08:41
hyperairanyone from motu-sru around? i'd like to get the fix for bug #248392 into karmic if possible09:33
ubottuLaunchpad bug 248392 in ia32-libs "32bit libgl search for dri at wrong place on 64bit system" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/24839209:33
ys___hi, i need some help with ppas... how can i make a package also compiles on jaunty? it only compiles on karmic and i have to make another release changing the target in the changelog09:45
ys___thanks :)09:46
lifelessys___: thats right09:49
ys___lifeless, can't i make the same version also compiles on jaunty? i saw this on another ppas, by example https://launchpad.net/~nvidia-vdpau/+archive/ppa/+packages09:52
lifelessys___: you can copy from older to newer09:54
ys___copy from older to newer? i don't understand that09:55
cemckeyserver.ubuntu.com not working?10:25
cemclol, never mind...10:25
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sebnerhuh bddebian12:31
bddebianHi folks12:32
bddebianHeya sebner12:32
geserHi sebner and bddebian12:38
sebneraloha geser :)12:38
bddebianHi geser12:44
monteiroanyone knows how can i enable GST_DEBUG? I've enabled debug on configure.. but GST_DEBUG never appears.13:03
Shockrateshello developers. sagemath 4.2 is available in the site, and we still have 3.1 in our repos.14:00
Shockratesdo something14:00
Shockratesits time to14:00
azeemShockrates: it'll be updated in lucid shortly if Debian has the new version14:01
Shockratescan i get it before lucid gets out?14:02
Shockratesfrom backdoors14:02
azeemwhich backdoors?14:02
kklimondaShockrates, backports? no14:03
kklimondabackports are done only for packages that are already in the newer ubuntu release14:03
Shockratesport in greek means door14:05
Shockrateslol14:05
Shockrates:D14:05
Shockratesporta14:05
kklimondaShockrates, that's why we are trying to abstain from making language specific jokes here - no one would get them anyway ;)14:05
Shockratesanyway can someone tell me where the sagemath packages saves the software at?14:06
azeemShockrates: "the software"?14:06
kklimondawhat do you mean?14:06
Shockratesfor example if i get the 3.1 package from the repos, where will the binary be saved at14:06
azeemShockrates: maybe read the manual14:06
azeemShockrates: that's a general Ubuntu question more appropriate in #ubuntu14:07
Shockratesok14:07
azeemi.e. which files are in a package, and what is their path14:07
hedkandihi folks, I have installed the new ubuntu so thanks for producing it. I prefer it to windows!16:15
zookoHey that's the guy who was complaining about Ubuntu devs not working hard enough the other day, and pissed people off.16:18
zookoThat was nice of him to come back and say "Thank you".16:18
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iulianHeh.16:32
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MattJA package new in Debian since Karmic will be pulled into universe by default in Lucid?21:05
hyperairyes21:05
MattJGreat, thanks :)21:05
hyperairas long as before freeze21:05
MattJIt happens automatically though? or do I need to poke people?21:06
sebnerMattJ: automatically21:06
MattJPerfect :)21:06
hyperairpoking required only during freeze21:19
randomactionbut it has to be in testing21:32
sebnerrandomaction: unstable ..-21:33
randomactionsebner: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS21:33
sebnerWTH?21:34
sebnerrandomaction: at least not with Hardy. We synced there everything with unstable as usual21:34
randomactionyep, this was added to the page in Sep 200921:35
sebnergrr21:36
sebnerstupid21:36
randomactionI guess manual syncs from unstable will be possible21:36
randomactionbut don't know how welcome that'll be21:37
sebnerrandomaction: sure they'll be and I'll do many of them welcoming by me a lot ;)21:38
hyperairheh21:38
sebnerhyperair: btw, what's the roadmap for banshee now?21:38
hyperairsebner: what roadmap?21:39
sebnerhyperair: ~2.0~21:39
hyperair2.0?21:39
hyperairi don't think i've heard of anything of that sort21:39
hyperairprobably will be a long way down the road21:39
sebnerhyperair: I mean 1.6 of course, sry21:39
hyperairah21:40
hyperairprobably will be ready by lucid..21:40
hyperairor we'll have to rush things again =.=21:40
hyperairhow stressful.21:40
sebnerack21:40
hyperairmmhmm21:40
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