[00:20] <tate_> Hello gents, I'm having some sound drama I need some guidance on.
[00:20] <tate_> I just installed mythbuntu 9.10 and when mythtv is running no other sound can play.
[00:21] <tate_> Is this a setting or is it just a nasty, nasty bug?
[00:32] <bubba_> I can't tell you anything about it, but I've observed similar behavior on my ubuntu 9.10 desktop
[00:33] <bubba_> I just tested and I could not start vagalume with mythtv open
[00:33] <bubba_> vagalume will not play if it can't access the audio device (I think)
[00:34] <bubba_> my guess is that it's pulseaudio related
[00:38] <mrand> tate_: hold on a second... there is something that might help you.
[00:38] <tate_> I've had SO much trouble with pulseaudio
[00:39] <tate_> I'm likely going to attempt a gentoo installation soon.
[00:39] <tate_> It's my media center and ubuntu can't give me working sound.
[00:39] <bubba_> yeah, I just hear people complain about it a lot and I've had lots of problems
[00:39] <mrand> tate_ check out the work-around on: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/460579
[00:39] <bubba_> have you done the basics like check alsamixer
[00:45] <tate_> Yeah, that's a negative; didn't resolve the problem
[00:51] <tate_> Also my speakers often crackle when mythtv isn't running.
[00:51] <tate_> Pulseaudio sucks
[00:51] <tate_> I hate this.
[00:51] <mrand> tate_: we do too.
[00:52] <tate_> Is Fedora in bed with it?
[00:53] <mrand> Yes.  Pulse Audio is the future for linux audio.  Rollout has been pretty bad though.
[00:53] <mrand> I'd found a thread about disabling pulse audio in the past... let me see if I can find it again.
[00:55] <tate_> I tried that in 9.04 and had no luck.
[00:55] <tate_> My logic in moving to gentoo is that I can have a distribution without pulseaudio
[00:55] <tate_> But I've had so much trouble with this.
[00:57] <mrand> tate_ : are you running mythtv on top of GNOME?
[00:58] <tate_> Among others yes
[00:58] <tate_> I run it over kde, xfce, and gnome
[00:58] <mrand> tate_: the bug that the above bug references (https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/436792) contains considerably more information about the types of things that people have tried, including a link to the forums.
[00:59] <mrand> If you do find a combination of things, we'd greatly appreciate hearing about it on Bug #460579
[01:24] <quinten_> can i safely upgrade from 8.10 to 9.10? or do i need to upgrade to 9.04 first?
[01:24] <hads> You need to go through 9.04 is you're doing an in-place upgrade.
[01:25] <hads> If you want to reinstall with your old database saved that should work okay.
[01:26] <quinten_> hmm, i guess there's no other software installed that i need
[01:26] <quinten_> that would mean just downloading the .iso and installing over the existing install?
[01:27] <foxbuntu> quinten_, it will format the drive
[01:32] <mrand> foxbuntu: actually, if you don't select "format", it won't ;-)
[01:33] <quinten_> i'll just do the upgrade in two stages. just thinking of reducing strain on the servers
[01:33] <foxbuntu> mrand, yes, but I was making the assumption he wasnt going to dual boot mythbuntu and mythbuntu
[01:33] <quinten_> is mysqldump a good enough way to backup the db?
[01:33] <foxbuntu> quinten_, yes
[01:36] <quinten_> anything else i should backup? will any of the .mythtv files get overwritten, or my lirc configs?
[01:36] <mrand> foxbuntu: not talking dual boot either. when I was doing a little upgrade testing, I found that if you do not tick the format box, it will just overwrite the files it needs to and leaves everything else alone (like files my home directory).  I'm not saying it is a suggested upgrade path, since it seems likely that it would overwrite your database and such.  Just an interesting tid-bit, really.
[01:36] <foxbuntu> quinten_, I would backup anything you might have customized
[01:37] <foxbuntu> mrand, ah...I guess I had never tried that
[01:37] <foxbuntu> brb...switching window managers
[01:37] <mrand> quinten_: for example, I have apache set up for stuff other than mythweb, so I'd want to save those.  And stuff in my home directories.  And yes, I'd probably save lirc related configs, just in case.
[01:37] <mrand> brb... switching shoes
[01:38] <Pwen> hi all. anyone care to help me with my harmony 525/soundgraph imon combo?
[01:49] <Pwen> the problem I am having is rather strange. it was working before, but then I rebooted, and now its not working. irw doesnt pick anything up but when I try to use mode2 to grab the raw codes I cant because the lirc hardware device is already in use (by lircd I would assume)
[01:54] <mrand> Sorry, I'm rusty on my lircd stuff... did you try to kill or stop lircd?
[01:55] <Pwen> yeah, when I stop lircd and use mode2, it can grab the raw codes
[01:55] <Pwen> so the remote/hardware is ok
[01:55] <Pwen> and when I start lircd again it appears to be behaving normally
[01:55] <Pwen>  3639 ?        Ss     0:00 /usr/sbin/lircd --output=/var/run/lirc/lircd --device=/dev/lirc0
[01:56] <Pwen> thats all good, lirc0 is the device node I capture the raw from using mode2, the output is the socket that irw reads
[01:56] <mrand> sorry - so it works when you manually start it?
[01:57] <Pwen> no. irw doesnt ever see any keycodes as translated by lircd
[01:58] <Pwen> mode2 can read the hardware and grab the hex values, but from there lircd isnt reading those hex values or isnt passing the keycodes onto irw - not sure which
[01:58] <Pwen> even tho the lircd.conf is exactly the same as before :|
[01:59] <mrand> so would that point to a problem with the hardware.conf file?
[02:01] <Pwen> good thought
[02:01] <Pwen> I havent used lircd before a few days ago so Im still a bit lost ^_^
[02:01] <Pwen> everything in hardware.conf appears normal
[02:01] <mrand> I haven't messed with it in nearly a year, and even then it just worked for me.
[02:01] <Pwen> loading the correct modules etc
[02:02] <Pwen> ... I can move the mouse around on the screen with the arrow keys, but irw still doesnt pick anything up
[02:02] <Pwen> now Im really confused
[02:03] <mrand> ah... something else is grabbing it and treating it like a keyboard and/or mouse.
[02:04] <Pwen> well, its got that dual functionality
[02:06] <mrand> Well, I mean its grabbing the keyboard portion and not passing it on to lircd maybe.  I don't have any specific ideas beyond looking over this wiki page I put together a while back... the remote is obviously different, but the concepts might still apply (as I recall, Adam Pierce talked about something grabbing the input as well):  http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Gyration-based_MCE_Remotes#Linux_Installation
[02:09] <Pwen> hmmm
[02:09] <Pwen> both the devices mention mouse
[02:09] <Pwen> in my listing by-id
[02:09] <Pwen> but I think that is normal
[02:15] <Pwen> I fixed the remote
[02:16] <Pwen> note to everyone who didnt know: lircd.conf cannot have any comment-only lines
[02:16] <Pwen> I put a comment in the file and effectively split the config in two
[02:16] <Pwen> D:
[02:22] <foxbuntu> Pwen, what do you mean?
[02:23] <foxbuntu> Pwen, there are comments in it by default
[02:26] <Pwen> foxbuntu: yeah but they are no more than one crlf seperating each config option
[02:27] <Pwen> so it might say
[02:27] <Pwen> KEY_BLAH xyz
[02:27] <Pwen> KEY_BLAH1 abc
[02:27] <Pwen> if you put a # comment in between those lines, apparently lircd breaks
[02:27] <Pwen> at the end of each line is fine tho
[02:28] <foxbuntu> Pwen, oh you mean you put one between the code state/end sections
[02:28] <Pwen> yah
[02:28] <mrand> Man, who comes up with these parsers?!
[02:28] <foxbuntu> Pwen, yes, that will bust it
[02:31] <Pwen> ^_^
[03:16] <freakqnc> does anyone know if http://mythbuntu.com/ is don?
[03:16] <freakqnc> down
[03:17] <freakqnc> nevermind http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythTV_distros has a wrong link .com instead of .org
[03:17] <freakqnc> :)
[03:19] <superm1> .com used to redirect to .org i thought
[03:19] <superm1> that could still be a problem
[03:51] <jrjackso> hey, i just upgraded to 9.10. previously my remote was working (hauppage wintv card)
[03:51] <jrjackso> now no /dev/lirc0 is being created
[07:35] <Cuco3> hi
[07:35] <Cuco3> I planned to uninstall mythtv and I deleted the mythtv account. problem is, when I go to remove mythtv, it won't let me uninstall. probably I need that account. can anyone help?
[07:39] <nurettin> i am using avert tv analog cad
[07:39] <nurettin> i am changed system
[07:39] <nurettin> v4lctl video standart is ntsc
[07:43] <nurettin> how can i change
[07:43] <nurettin> to pal
[07:53] <nurettin> http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/m444d91af
[08:33] <Seventoes> anyone know where to get a cheap low profile vid card with composite out?
[08:38] <satfan39> Hi
[08:41] <satfan39> Hi, looking for support for mirobridge and cron
[08:45] <satfan39> mirobridge runs fine when started from the terminal but crashes after a few seconds when started via crontab
[08:46] <satfan39> according to mythtv.org this is because it can not connect to mythconverg because it does not find the "config.xml" file
[08:46] <satfan39> But in my case, the  config.xml file is ok and located in the .mythtv directory so I am lost
[08:47] <satfan39> I use miro 2.5.3 and ubuntu Jaunty kernel 2.6.30
[08:47] <satfan39> I run the latest version of svn ( 22659 )
[08:53] <satfan39> I mean mythtv 0.22 svn 22659
[08:54] <satfan39> this is the error message that I get when attempting to run mirobridge via crontab
[08:54] <satfan39> /var/lib/python-support/python2.6/MySQLdb/__init__.py:34: DeprecationWarning: the sets module is deprecated
[08:54] <satfan39>   from sets import ImmutableSet
[08:54] <satfan39> 2009-10-31 09:52:01,298 - mirobridge - INFO - Using python library 'pyparsing' version 1.5.0
[08:54] <satfan39> /usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/MythTV/MythLog.py:34: DeprecationWarning: BaseException.message has been deprecated as of Python 2.6
[08:54] <satfan39>   self.message = message
[08:54] <satfan39> Exception AttributeError: "'MythDB' object has no attribute 'db'" in <bound method MythDB.__del__ of <MythTV.MythDB.MythDB object at 0xb79df26c>> ignored
[08:54] <satfan39> 2009-10-31 09:52:04,320 - mirobridge - CRITICAL - MythTV python bindings could not be imported
[10:31] <herby_> Hello everybody
[10:34] <herby_> I have a problem with mythstream on MythTV 0.22. Could it be possible that anybody can help me? (Please excuse my unperfectly english its not my first language)
[12:46] <pknight_> hey, just upgraded to 9.10 and having a heck of a time gettiing my remote to work again.. no /dev/lirc0 device
[12:47] <pknight_> (hauppauge win tv go plus remote - used to work fine with "Hauppage TV Card" picked)
[15:01] <jeffjeffdejeff> hi all, probably a simple one for you.  i'm running frontend/backend on one machine, and ubuntu with mythtv installed on another machine.  having difficulty connecting to the backend.  in control center, i can test the connections succesfully, but when i try to watch tv, it says "could not connect to the master backend server -- is it running? is the ip address set for it in the setup program correct?" any suggestions?  do i ha
[16:01] <caustic386> !help
[16:02] <caustic386> just installed 9.10 this morning, anybody else have trouble with USB?  my usb ports compeltely stop working after boot, so no keyboard or mouse
[16:02] <caustic386> it also refuses to mount CDs, so I can't install any wireless utils to try and troubleshoot from CLI
[16:04] <jeffjeffdejeff> anyone able to help?  have set up mythnews and have selected the feeds that i'm interested in, but i don't seem able to view them when i select them.  any suggestions?
[17:26] <tmkt> where can i see mytharchive status without using the fe?
[17:27] <tgm4883> tmkt, mythweb?
[17:36] <tmkt> yeah..looked there
[17:36] <tmkt> couldn't find anything
[17:41] <tmkt> another issue
[17:41] <tmkt> when mytharchive is installed
[17:41] <tmkt> project-x isn't a dependency
[17:41] <tmkt> so using myth archive fails
[17:57] <tgm4883> tmkt, it's a suggests
[17:58] <tgm4883> which means it isn't a requirement
[17:58] <tgm4883> does it not function at all without it?
[17:58] <tgm4883> what does project-x do?
[17:58] <Spirits-Sight> can MythBuntu be installed along side windows XP like regualer Ubuntu 9.10
[17:58] <tgm4883> Spirits-Sight, yea
[17:59] <tgm4883> Spirits-Sight, are you talking about wubi, or dual boot?
[17:59] <Spirits-Sight> so it will give the same option when installing ubuntu (dual boot)
[17:59] <Spirits-Sight> ubuntu = mythbuntu
[18:00] <tgm4883> Spirits-Sight, I'm not sure, I assume so, but I don't have any windows machines to test on
[18:00] <tgm4883> are you talking about during partitioning?
[18:03] <Spirits-Sight> I believe so
[18:04] <tgm4883> Spirits-Sight, we use the same partitioner, so yea it should be fine
[18:04] <Spirits-Sight> OK thanks
[18:04] <tgm4883> I got to run though, birthday party
[18:14] <ourtv> i have lots of empty recordings.  is myth.find_orphans.pl what i use to clean them up?
[18:26] <android6011> does anyone use xbmc instead of mythfrontend?
[19:12] <ourtv> well i'll be if i can get myth.find_orphans.pl to work.  what's the magic word?
[19:13] <tmkt> tgm4883: nope..fails without it
[19:13] <tmkt> tgm4883: not quite sure what it does
[19:15] <ourtv> frustrating having all of these empty recordings and not being able to mass delete them.
[20:03] <Cuco3> Hi is anyone around?
[20:04] <Cuco3> I have a question about uninstalling MythTV. The backend won't completely uninstall; it gives me an error msg when I try "sudo apt-get remove mythtv-backend" ...dpkg: error while cleaning up:
[20:04] <Cuco3>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[20:04] <Cuco3> Errors were encountered while processing:
[20:04] <Cuco3>  mythtv-backend
[20:04] <Cuco3> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) 			 		
[20:55] <Cuco3> I have a question about uninstalling MythTV. The backend won't completely uninstall; it gives me an error msg when I try "sudo apt-get remove mythtv-backend" ...dpkg: error while cleaning up:
[20:55] <Cuco3> subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[20:55] <Cuco3> Errors were encountered while processing: mythtv-backend
[20:55] <Cuco3> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) 			
[20:57] <Nickni_Name> hello, can someone help me i cant activated tvout. when i use atitvout the tv make some "blinks" and its activaeted but nothing i see
[21:26] <Cuco3> I have a question about uninstalling MythTV. The backend won't completely uninstall; it gives me an error msg when I try "sudo apt-get remove mythtv-backend" ...dpkg: error while cleaning up:
[21:26] <Cuco3> subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[21:26] <Cuco3> Errors were encountered while processing: mythtv-backend
[21:26] <Cuco3> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) 			
[21:36] <quinten> is there a good OSD for mythui?
[21:36] <quinten> i'm not a big fan of the default one. i like the new mythbuntu theme though, very nice
[21:37] <quinten> just want an OSD to go along with it :)
[21:50] <ourtv> yay! huludesktop and boxee from the main menu!  that's sweet
[21:52] <Cuco3> I have a question about uninstalling MythTV. The backend won't completely uninstall; it gives me an error msg when I try "sudo apt-get remove mythtv-backend" ...dpkg: error while cleaning up:
[21:52] <Cuco3> subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[21:52] <Cuco3> Errors were encountered while processing: mythtv-backend
[21:52] <Cuco3> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) 			
[22:29] <Cuco3> I have a question about uninstalling MythTV. The backend won't completely uninstall; it gives me an error msg when I try "sudo apt-get remove mythtv-backend" ...dpkg: error while cleaning up:
[22:29] <Cuco3> subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[22:29] <Cuco3> Errors were encountered while processing: mythtv-backend
[22:29] <Cuco3> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) 			
[23:16] <darthanubis> mythtvfrontend on one remote goes all zombie
[23:17] <darthanubis> I can use the frontend to do everything BUT watchtv and play recorded shows
[23:17] <darthanubis> This seems to just began out of nowhere
[23:17] <darthanubis> on another frontend the auio plays fine, but the video plays extremly fast
[23:18] <darthanubis> everything seems to work correctly on the backend, except for the backend not reading videos from themounted nfs share. The muisc module is reading the nfs mounted music folder just fine however?
[23:19] <darthanubis> Seem it broke after going final. RC worked flawlessly
[23:20] <darthanubis> there is no crash file for the frontend as I have to kill it manually
[23:35] <Cuco3> I have a question about uninstalling MythTV. The backend won't completely uninstall; it gives me an error msg when I try "sudo apt-get remove mythtv-backend" ...dpkg: error while cleaning up:
[23:35] <Cuco3> subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[23:35] <Cuco3> Errors were encountered while processing: mythtv-backend
[23:35] <Cuco3> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) 			
[23:45] <superm1> Cuco3, you'll probably need to add a "set -x" on the second line of /var/lib/dpkg/info/mythtv-backend.postinst to debug that
[23:50] <Cuco3> Thanks will try this out now! :)
[23:52] <Cuco3> This is how my mythtv-backend.postinit looks like:
[23:52] <Cuco3> #!/bin/sh -e
[23:52] <Cuco3> set -x
[23:52] <Cuco3> case "$1" in
[23:52] <Cuco3>     configure)
[23:52] <Cuco3> (the first few lines, at least)
[23:52] <superm1> something like that yeah
[23:53] <superm1> and hopefully when you try to remove it will shows you clearly where it's failing now
[23:53] <Cuco3> ok, so now I try uninstalling ...?
[23:53] <Cuco3> ah ok
[23:54] <superm1> oh wait Remove
[23:54] <superm1> it should be in postrm
[23:54] <superm1> my bad :)
[23:54] <Cuco3> np
[23:54] <superm1> /var/lib/dpkg/info/mythtv-backend.postrm
[23:54] <Cuco3> here was the results for what its worth
[23:54] <Cuco3> + [ -x /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend ]
[23:54] <Cuco3> + update-rc.d mythtv-backend defaults 24 16
[23:54] <Cuco3> + which invoke-rc.d
[23:54] <Cuco3> + [ -x /usr/sbin/invoke-rc.d ]
[23:54] <Cuco3> + invoke-rc.d mythtv-backend start
[23:54] <superm1> !pastebin | Cuco3
[23:54] <superm1> oh wait i think Zinn is mia
[23:55] <superm1> try to put that in http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/ instead of the channels
[23:55] <Cuco3> ah sorry
[23:57] <spirits-sight> Is installing MythBuntu from scratch better then installing Ubuntu then mythbuntu on top ?
[23:58] <Cuco3> http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/m55a38956
[23:58] <Cuco3> so I removed "set -x" from postinit and added it to postrm
[23:58] <Cuco3> that pastebin was the result
[23:59] <superm1> Cuco3, how do you not have /home/mythtv?
[23:59] <superm1> that's the cause of your problem clearly