[00:00] <DrRabbit> Just... don't.
[00:00] <erUSUL> qq99: no this days network manager manages all interfaces except lo
[00:00] <ZoeyMarie> nm I'm gonna go upgrade to 9.10 and see if that does anything.
[00:00] <Euvius> every time i use aptget now, it doed the failed msttcorefonts timing out thinge  how do i remove msttcorefonts from my current upgrade activitites
[00:00] <Bodsda> Euvius: remove tha package
[00:00] <gionnico> how do i add a module to autostart????
[00:01] <th3raid0r> th1:  my monitor is connected to one of the DVI ports with a VGA-DVI adapter
[00:01] <lstarnes> gionnico: add it to /etc/modules
[00:01] <daleamon> Third try on this question: has anyone had the jaunty->karmic do-release-upgrade get stuck saying "100% [Working]" forever? Just after the download?
[00:01] <gionnico> lstarnes: ahh thanks!
[00:01] <Bodsda> gionnico: there is a startup applications section in preferences menu
[00:01] <Euvius> Bodsda,  remove didnt work
[00:01] <Sharok> msttcorefonts is impossible to install here
[00:01] <th1> th3raid0r, ok
[00:01] <Bodsda> gionnico: nvm, ignore me
[00:01] <qq99> erUSUL, is there a default internet connection? for example, if I'm wired or wireless, is there a way to refer to my internet connection by an alias?
[00:01] <gionnico> Bodsda: i'm talking about modules ^_^
[00:01] <tbc> Simple question: how do I bootstrap my wireless? I need the Broadcom proprietary driver. I tried to enable, but the list is empty. I need help populating the list. I am on my work box now (Windoze :() and can download and transfer. Help?
[00:01] <Bodsda> Euvius: why not?
[00:01] <Sharok> apt say it is an error, and in add/remove there is no install button
[00:01] <qq99> erUSUL: what I need to do is create a bridged networking connection for internet for my virtualboxes
[00:02] <erUSUL> mom: while IFS=' ' read -r file do; command "$file" ; done << file_with_filenames
[00:02] <Bodsda> Sharok: if you have nothing constructive to say, please keep it to yourself or a different channel
[00:02] <frostburn> how does one configure the libnotify messages
[00:02] <Sharok> oh well, gonna search for another distro
[00:02] <Euvius> Bodsda, when i did  apt-get remove msttcorefonts, it does the same thing as when it tries to install it
[00:02] <erUSUL> qq99: i thought that Vbox managed that automatically...
[00:02] <th3raid0r> th1:  I am guessing I need to set the resolution manually, as well as everything else?
[00:02] <linuxuz3r> qq99 do u use vmware
[00:02] <qq99> erUSUL: I don't think so
[00:02] <Turl> hi, can you help me with a bootchart? http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/553461/HAF-932-karmic-20091030-2.png
[00:02] <qq99> linuxuz3r: nope
[00:02] <Bodsda> Euvius: can you pastebin all the output please?
[00:02] <Bodsda> !pastebin > Euvius
[00:02] <lstarnes> Turl: what help do you need with it?
[00:02] <Euvius> Bodsda, ok
[00:02] <Fixo> my live CD from Karmic Coala dos not work ! I've checked the m5sum and it is ok :(
[00:03] <erUSUL> qq99: is there a default internet connection? no that i know of there is a default gateaway or route
[00:03] <Bodsda> Fixo: did you burn as an image or as a data cd?
[00:03] <Turl> lstarnes: why is so slow?
[00:03] <frostburn> Fixo, mine didn't work either, think it was a hardware issue
[00:03] <mom> erUSUL, there wouldnt be a simpler way like command echo$textfile commandoptions?
[00:03] <qq99> erUSUL: well, my connection will be either via wlan0 or eth0
[00:03] <th1> th3raid0r, no it's just not matching up your display wiht the port
[00:03] <Turl> lstarnes: jaunty was faster
[00:03] <Fixo> Bodsda as image !!
[00:03] <th1> th3raid0r, I'm researching it will take a while don't think I've given up ;)
[00:03] <Sharok> if anyone know a fix for flash + a way to get msttcorefonts please tell me T_T
[00:03] <lstarnes> Turl: I don't know anything about booting in karmic
[00:03] <th3raid0r> th1:  okay, thanks so much for your help.
[00:04] <mathepic> How do you change the login screen in Karmic?
[00:04] <mathepic> I was able to do it in Jaunty
[00:04] <mathepic> But I can't find it in Karmic
[00:04] <Fixo> but my jaunty was ok  !!!
[00:04] <linuxuz3r> mathepic: change the gdm theme
[00:04] <erUSUL> mom: well i did the hard part for you ;P
[00:04] <lockd> Sharok: you can download an msttcorefonts deb and just install it manually
[00:04] <Euvius> Bodsda, remove worked this time. ty
[00:04] <linuxuz3r> im on windows so i cant help
[00:04] <Bodsda> Euvius: glad to hear
[00:04] <drbobb> hello, my system fails to hibernate or suspend, for no good reason I can figure out. Note I did not say it fails to restore, I said it does not hibernate or suspend - just locks the screen. And this issue just appeared sort of overnight a few days ago, before that those functions worked fine!!
[00:04] <lockd> Sharok: but, your mirror could be out of date
[00:04] <Sharok> okay, 1 so 1 prob fixed, im still stuck with flash
[00:04] <laza> which one i should get? http://paste.ubuntu.com/305503/ i have a NVIDIA Quadro FX 570M
[00:04] <mathepic> linuxuz3r: And how do I do that?
[00:04] <Sharok> my mirror out of date?
[00:05] <Sharok> how i fix that
[00:05] <Fixo> I think there is a problem with my CD but I don't know how to check.... the m5sum is fine
[00:05] <knoppies> fixo, what do you think is wrong with it?
[00:05] <justfil> I'm installing the new 9.10 right now and I'm wondering do I have to make a swap partition because I got 2gb ram and I think that's enough to don't use swap. I'm using ubuntu since half year now and I wasnt using swap since then. What will you suggest me?
[00:05] <laza> pls help
[00:05] <meowbang> for a 5sec boot with 100mb ram try this out you start with ubuntu strip it down and have to compile it yourself.. but its worth it. http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=34554
[00:05] <daleamon> ah, still too busy here for me to get help. Too many problems hitting too few solvers I fear. I guess I will have to reboot my firewall and simply pray the upgrade did not destroy it.
[00:05] <almoxarife> drbobb: could your swap de smaller than what is needed?
[00:05] <erUSUL> justfil: swap == ram is needed for suspend to disk
[00:06] <nerdy_kid> where do i extract b43 firmware to with b43-fwcutter?  please help very very very urgent
[00:06] <fede1> Hello chan
[00:06] <frostburn> Fixo, i tried mine in two different cd drives, burned it at the slowest speed, didn't boot in one computer, booted fine in another... i had to install an older version and upgrade to 9.10
[00:06]  * horton uses who-buntu
[00:06] <knoppies> justfil, I would still make a swap partition, but with 2g ram you shouldt need alot of it.
[00:06] <drbobb> almoxarife: negative.
[00:06] <Fixo> knoppies there is a folder called "ubuntu" every time I click on it, appears other folder with the same name... ad infinitum
[00:06] <drbobb> almoxarife: I said the issue also affects suspend-to ram
[00:06] <Smokey> anyone else having problems with wireless network?
[00:06] <erUSUL> nerdy_kid: if you install b43-fwcutter with apt-get it will do everything autmatically for you
[00:06] <mikejet> What is causing the "crash report detected" icon?
[00:07] <knoppies> fixo, im not sure then. Did you burn the .iso file to a disk, or did you burn it as an image?
[00:07] <nerdy_kid> erSUL yea but i dont got internet lol
[00:07] <frostburn> mikejet, click it and find out
[00:07] <lockd> knoppies: justfil: you need more swap than you have RAM if you plan to suspend
[00:07] <erUSUL> mikejet: your kernel ? see "dmesg" output
[00:07] <drbobb> almoxarife: fwiw I have 1 GB RAM and 2 GB swap
[00:07] <qwyeth> I found the relevant bug report to my eth0 problem: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/384403
[00:07] <Bodsda> nerdy_kid: download it form packages.ubuntu.com and usb stick it across
[00:07] <th1> th3raid0r, I had to download a 83 mb driver to get the ATI docs :)
[00:07] <mikejet> frostburn : It doesn't say! It just asks me if I want to report it.  About every 5 minutes.
[00:07] <knoppies> lockd, I dont often suspend, but thanks for the info.
[00:07] <tbc> brb
[00:07] <justfil> So, with 2gb ram how big should I make the swap? 1.5x?
[00:07] <mom> erUSUL, so lets say i make a text file that contains only -a . . . there is no way to type at the bash line: ls (insert text file contents here)
[00:07] <frostburn> mikejet, odd, it should say
[00:08] <Bodsda> justfil: 4 to be safe
[00:08]  * horton uses who-buntu
[00:08] <lstarnes> justfil: at least 2
[00:08] <frostburn> mikejet, try  submitting it and see where it brings you on launchpad
[00:08] <Fixo> knoppies I choose the .iso file on "brasero" and make a CD...  recordind an image...
[00:08] <daleamon> I guess there is no one here who was involved with the installer who cares that it might have a machine destroying bug in it...
[00:08] <erUSUL> mom: which line ? is the file allways a one liner ?
[00:08] <justfil> thank you all
[00:08] <fede1> i need little help..is there a command to get keycode of keyboard?
[00:08] <nerdy_kid> Bodsda did, but b43-fwcutter needs a firmware file, which i got looking at logs: http://downloads.openwrt.org/sources/wl_apsta-3.130.20.0.o  but now i need to know what to do with it
[00:08] <mom> erUSUL, in that case it is producing ls -a
[00:08] <lstarnes> daleamon: have you tried filing a bug report on launchpad?
[00:08] <th3raid0r> th1: yikes! well here that takes a few minutes, but i have to leave for a moment, I will stay logged in. If you can find a solution before i get back, please send a private message so it doesn't get lost.
[00:08] <mow> has anyone tryed ubuntuone
[00:08] <mom> erUSUL, the file is one line right now already
[00:08] <erUSUL> mom: you want to execute commands stored on a text file ?
[00:09] <digifor> Can you upgrade offline using the Ubuntu DVD like you can with the alternate installer?
[00:09] <Bodsda> nerdy_kid: im not sure, I would need to see the error message when installing b43-fwcutter
[00:09] <daleamon> lstarnes: no, this is an emergency situations.
[00:09] <th1> th3raid0r, what's the max refresh rate your monitor supporst?
[00:09] <erUSUL> mom: was not a file with filenames ?
[00:09] <orly_owl> How can I limit the speed when uploading files to a website with Firefox 3.5.4?
[00:09] <qwyeth> fedel: you might be looking for xev
[00:10] <mom> erUSUL, i have a textfile right now that has the name of textfiles separated by a space all on one line
[00:10] <fede1> thanks qwyeth i will give it a look
[00:10] <brandon__> anyone having DNS name resolving issues in ubuntu 9.10? Karmic
[00:10] <th3raid0r> th1: H 30-56KHz V 50-120HZ
[00:10] <Smoke1> anyone here good with soundcard issues i have a soundmax sound card and the buttons on it works ex: raising and lowering the volume as well as muteing  BUT i get no sound plz msg if u got any ideas tysvm in advance
[00:10] <Fixo> the m5sum of the disk is ok too
[00:10] <nerdy_kid> Bodsda the error was it couldnt get the file, i manualy ran it and it extracts the a bunch of files.  I am assuming im stuck somehow sticking them into the kernel, how do i do that?
[00:10] <moeen> I have an Image which is in use, and by mistake, I moved another file on it. It's still in use, so I know it's not removed yet, but is there any way I can recover it ?
[00:10] <Bodsda> mom: this sounds like a programming task (sorry for interrupting erUSUL )
[00:10] <erUSUL> mom: ok then do as i said. is the safe way to do things
[00:10] <joaopinto> Smoke1, please open a terminal and type: uname -a
[00:10] <drbobb> nerdy_kid: IIRC the b43-fwcutter package does it all for you when you install it, I'm using it myself
[00:10] <Bodsda> nerdy_kid: no idea, sorry
[00:10] <mom> erUSUL, i just want to be able to type at bash command line:  cat (insert content of text file) > file
[00:10] <erUSUL> Bodsda: yep --> while IFS=' ' read -r file do; command "$file" ; done << file_with_filenames
[00:10] <drbobb> nerdy_kid: aah sorry I read too slow
[00:11] <nerdy_kid> drbobb please help im desperate lol spent hours trying
[00:11] <mom> Bodsda, its my ubuntu command line
[00:11] <Bodsda> mom: you want to be able to create a text file from cli without loading an editor?
[00:11] <qwyeth> mom: you can do that with bash, but you're getting pretty close to things that are easier to do in awk
[00:11] <Bodsda> erUSUL: your wizardry confuses me :)
[00:11] <drbobb> nerdy_kid: I can't find the statement of your problem, it's too far back
[00:11] <erUSUL> mom: what does (insert content of text file) exactly means ? cat file1 file2 > file3 do just that...
[00:12] <erUSUL> Bodsda: just do like me and iddle a while each day in #bash ;P
[00:12] <nerdy_kid> drbob b43-fwcutter gave me a folder named b43legacy with a bunch of .fw files in it.  I need to know what the heck im supposed to do with them.
[00:12] <morydd_> in the "maintnence shell" is there any way to make the file system writeable?
[00:12] <erUSUL> Bodsda: only a while or your head will explode
[00:12] <frostburn> morydd_, yes you need to remount as rw, sec ill get you the command
[00:12] <Bodsda> erUSUL: I did that. then i found python, at least my head doesnt explode with it :)
[00:12] <mom> erUSUL, a simple example was the one i just did of producing ls -a . . . you have textfile that contains the text ¨-a¨
[00:12] <drbobb> nerdy_kid: how did it "give" you that folder, where is it located?
[00:13] <kokos> i have a question
[00:13] <Bodsda> mom: echo "something" > somefile
[00:13] <fede1> ask it kokos
[00:13] <frostburn> morydd_, mount -n -o remount,rw /partition
[00:13] <nerdy_kid> i manually downloaded a file it needed and ran b43-fwcutter file in ~ it gave me all that in ~
[00:13] <nerdy_kid> drbobb i manually downloaded a file it needed and ran b43-fwcutter file in ~ it gave me all that in ~
[00:14] <mom> Bodsda, right but at the command line type ls echo ¨textfile¨ (which contains -a)?
[00:14] <drbobb> nerdy_kid: start from the beginning please, what did you do?
[00:14] <UbuntN> <3 Ubuntu
[00:14] <daleamon> okay, I have to get this firewall into a stble state somehow before I travel. Ain't no free eyeballs here to advise...
[00:14] <nerdy_kid> drbobb ok, im trying to get a wireless card working without internet.
[00:14] <kokos> what id have "usr" group?
[00:14] <drbobb> nerdy_kid: you have no wire to connect to?
[00:14] <Bodsda> mom: sorry, your not makiing sense. ls list files in directories, echo prints what you type and > redirects stdout to a file
[00:14] <nerdy_kid> drbobb nope
[00:14] <th1> th3raid0r, ok check private msg
[00:14] <erUSUL> mom: ls "$(cat file_with_-a_inside)" ??
[00:15] <mom> like how would you produce ls -a output using a text file that contains "-a"
[00:15] <kisuke> how do i switch desktop managers?
[00:15] <drbobb> nerdy_kid: ok I get it. Just a min. please
[00:15] <UbuntN> writeln ('good night');
[00:15] <UbuntN> end.
[00:15] <mom> erUSUL, that might work let me try
[00:15] <qq99> if /etc/network/interfaces don't define eth0 and wlan0, what does? you said network manager, does it always do it dynamically or does it have a conf file?  if I add them to /etc/network/interfaces, it seems to screw things up until I remove them and reboot, /etc/init.d/networking restart fails too
[00:15] <Welshy-Rob> night peeps xD
[00:15] <Bodsda> mom: use pips -- ls `cat textfile_that_contains_-a`
[00:15] <erUSUL> mom: you are doing very wrong thisngs if you want to store options in textfile
[00:16] <frostburn> kokos, there isn't a usr group unless you've created one, cat /etc/passwd|grep "usr:"
[00:16] <Bodsda> erUSUL: haha -- I wass thinking, is it not easier to type -a?
[00:16] <myk_> anyone having troubles installing 9.10 64bit?
[00:16] <drbobb> nerdy_kid: you should end up with two folders: b43, and b43-legacy, but you probably really need only one of them - I can't tell you which, it depends on the exact chip you have
[00:16] <erUSUL> qq99: does it dinamically but can be configured via System>references>Network connections. it stores conf in gconf
[00:16] <Smoke1> anyone here good with soundcard issues i have a soundmax sound card and the buttons on it works ex: raising and lowering the volume as well as muteing  BUT i get no sound plz msg if u got any ideas tysvm in advance
[00:16] <qq99> mom... the textfile contains the results of ls -a and "-a" at the very top?
[00:16] <justdave> I have an nVidia Mac Mini and had Jaunty working fine... after upgrading to Karmic there's no sound.  The trick used on Jaunty to make sound work (explicitly setting the model via modprobe.d config) doesn't appear to work.  Anyone have any ideas what to check?
[00:16] <erUSUL> !who | qq99
[00:16] <kokos> i create because i have multi-user system
[00:16] <linuxuz3r> so do you need a 32bit chroot environment to use 32bit programs in a 64bit machine
[00:16] <mom> erUSUL, that was a simple example . . . i have 300 pdf pages that im trying to use pdftk with to generate one pdf
[00:16] <justdave> I'm not having much luck finding anything relevant on Google or the Ubuntu Forums
[00:16] <kokos> but i remove it and i want to create it again
[00:16] <nerdy_kid> drbobb i got b43legacy
[00:17] <qq99> !tab
[00:17] <justdave> of course, the forums are buried under all the posts from people upgrading the last two days, and Google hasn't indexed it recently enough... :)
[00:17] <nerdy_kid> drbobb do i somehow compile it into the kernel?
[00:17] <mom> so i did ls 00* > file.txt
[00:17] <drbobb> nerdy_kid: those folders should be placed in /lib/firmware, I mean as folders with all they contain, not just the files in them
[00:17] <frostburn> justdave, google indexes it quite quickly
[00:18] <myk_> can someone help with a 64bit install from a pen drive
[00:18] <nerdy_kid> drbobb thank u *1000 trying right now...
[00:18] <drbobb> nerdy_kid: no you don't need to compile anything, after you reboot your wifi interface should be enabled
[00:18] <mom> echo $(< list.txt) > list.tx
[00:18] <daleamon> FWIW, the answer is... do-release-upgrade did not trash my firewall before hanging. It reboots and still works. So I am not going to touch it again until I return in 6 weeks.
[00:18] <p-f> what's a decent very lightweight graphical web browser? I used to use dillo, but it seems like it's been pulled from the repositories in Karmic
[00:18] <Bodsda> mom: you would need to run a command upon a string in a file and iterate over the lines until reaching EOF. I suggest you learn bash/python/perl
[00:18] <mom> to remove line breaks
[00:18] <ptc> In KDE, the application khotkeys offers a feature so I can bind a key shortcut to type out a string (e.g: when I press Win+H it types out "http://") ...Is there any similar application in Gnome?
[00:18] <drbobb> p-f: try arora
[00:18] <erUSUL> p-f: midori ?
[00:18] <frostburn> p-f, prism for standalone applications
[00:18] <linuxuz3r> later guys
[00:18] <lockd> arora? lightweight?
[00:18] <BoredKender> so has anyone figured out the crackling sound issues (even when muted) as well as the notify sounds being too fast in karmic?
[00:18] <p-f> drbobb/erUSUL: thanks, I'll have a look
[00:19] <drbobb> lockd: well, not?
[00:19] <p-f> frostburn, this is for general documentation searching, not for a specific web app
[00:19] <fede1> kokos: you can use the user & group tools
[00:19] <lockd> drbobb: it requires all of kdelibs/qt
[00:19] <tate_> Alright, I am have a serious problem with sound in Ubuntu
[00:19] <daleamon> As to whether I now have a system that is upgradeable by any means...
[00:19] <drbobb> lockd: on any decent system you have them already ;-)
[00:19] <p-f> lockd, I don't mind size-wise as long as it loads very fast
[00:19] <dr3mro_> please help me install multimedia codecs ubuntu
[00:19] <kokos> it doesn't matter what id have that group?
[00:19] <qq99> my next question: how to enable DMA on my harddrive? copying large amount of files seems to bring my system to a halt and I've been told DMA would improve this.  hdparm -d1 /dev/sda fails
[00:19] <lockd> chromium seems to be the fastest "full featured" browser
[00:20] <Bodsda> dr3mro_: vlc installs most of them as dependencies
[00:20] <lockd> it's still not stable
[00:20] <p-f> doesn't quite load quickly enough for me
[00:20] <Bodsda> lockd: its also not 'full featured'
[00:20] <lockd> what's missing?
[00:20] <frostburn> qq99, sudo? whats the error
[00:20] <p-f> a real MDI
[00:20] <lockd> and here's the PPA for dillo: https://launchpad.net/~d.filoni/+archive/dillo
[00:20]  * p-f ducks
[00:21] <p-f> ah neat, thanks
[00:21] <myk_> instaling from flash on 64bit machine gets stuck, any ideas?
[00:21] <wolf23> somebody help plz!
[00:21] <qq99> frostburn: http://pastebin.com/d7bbd0b5c
[00:21] <lockd> but, what's -missing- in Chromium? yes, I know it's unstable
[00:21] <kokos> group id is 1;100? 0 can not because 0 have root xD
[00:22] <Kingsy101> does ubuntu 8.04 have a xvid codec built into it?
[00:22] <qq99> frostburn: seems it can't even check the status of the drive's DMA
[00:22] <lockd> Kingsy101: gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg
[00:23] <erUSUL> mom: what was wrong with « pdftk 00*.pdf cat output output_file.pdf » ??
[00:23] <wolf23> anyone tell me about gfceu cannot work with ubuntu 9.10, anyida plz my child need to play games!
[00:23] <Kingsy101> lockd - do I need to install that or is there by default?
[00:23] <lockd> Kingsy101: it's not built in, but that will support most codecs known in the modern world
[00:23] <Kingsy101> ok cool
[00:23] <qq99> frostburn: also thinking maybe my drive settings might factor in? I think it's set to AHCI
[00:23] <Kingsy101> so just a sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg will do?
[00:23] <Wicked> hmm. anyone else having issues with flash under firefox or chrome with 9.10? all flash videos tend to stutter now and long videos tend to crap out after a few mins of playing
[00:23] <Kingsy101> lockd - ^^^^
[00:23] <drbobb> again asking for a hint: hibernate/suspend is not working on my system, the menu commands seem to do nothing - what might be the reason??
[00:23] <frostburn> qq99, i know that hal has been deprecated, might have something to do with it
[00:23] <Wicked> !flash
[00:23] <matu> where is the new .img netbook remix ?
[00:23] <lockd> Kingsy101: yes
[00:24] <BoredKender> think i found another bug... the x-chat tray icon is gone
[00:24] <timepilot> running karmic, rhythmbox wont play mp3s.  other apps (moc, miro, etc) will.  ideas?
[00:24] <matu> where is the new net book remix img ?
[00:24] <lockd> Bodsda: well what feature are you looking for?
[00:24] <matu> did you stop releasing this ?
[00:24] <mom> erUSUL, hmmm yep that works too
[00:24] <qq99> frostburn: was doing this in 9.04 too (was it deprecating before then?)
[00:24] <erUSUL> timepilot: install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[00:24] <timepilot> i did
[00:24] <matu> please i want to download the 9.10 img and send it to disk
[00:24] <fede1> kokos: you want to recreate the usr group right?
[00:24] <frostburn> qq99, no it wasn't
[00:24] <BoredKender> oop, got it back
[00:24] <kokos> yes
[00:24] <Bodsda> lockd: working proxy support with plugins
[00:25] <erUSUL> mom: it is right there in the pdftk webpage ;)
[00:25] <nerdy_kid> drbobb its not working
[00:25] <kokos> but i don't know what id have group user before
[00:25] <lockd> Bodsda: well, then Firefox is kind of your only choice for plugins
[00:25] <wolf23> anyone tell me about gfceu cannot work with ubuntu 9.10, anyidea plz my child need to play games!
[00:25] <drbobb> nerdy_kid: so you probably need the other folder ;/
[00:25] <Kingsy101> lockd - weird looks like it was already installed
[00:25] <The_Journey> is anyone's new ubuntu version hanging?
[00:25] <Marsmensch> hi, i have some problems to install a software. i have a installing instruction from the producer, but this is for suse linux. it worked quit well. but at this point i had problems ... http://pastebin.com/d74b452bc. i don't know how to handle it in ubuntu ... for /etc/sysconfig/ethercat i coosed /etc/ethercat, but i think this will couse trouble ... and the init script installation failt also ...
[00:25] <kisuke> how can i switch my desktop envirment?
[00:25] <lockd> Kingsy101: hmm, maybe in by default, that's odd, but it doesn't work?
[00:25] <The_Journey> my new ubuntu keeps hanging whenever I start firefox or other intensive application
[00:25] <mom> erUSUL, ive been reading about bash and was thinking of > that i just learned
[00:26] <frostburn> qq99 i'd suggest googling/posting on the forum, i've haven't an issue with setting it before =\
[00:26] <timepilot> any other ideas?
[00:26] <drbobb> nerdy_kid: ina terminal window, plz type `dmesg | grep b43'
[00:26] <nerdy_kid> drbobb yeah but i copyed the url right out of the error log ... ok on sec
[00:26] <drbobb> nerdy_kid: (with no quotes)
[00:26] <qq99> frostburn: thanks, I'm looking into it now
[00:26] <Bodsda> lockd: http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=20989&colspec=ID%20Stars%20Pri%20Area%20Type%20Status%20Summary%20Modified%20Owner%20Mstone%20OS
[00:27] <n8tuser> The_Journey-> you have enuff memory to run those gui apps?
[00:28] <nerdy_kid> drbobb ok i got something; the card is recognized, but its giving an error to a site for an updated firmware, ill go get it so hang on (and im not a complete nube lol ;) )
[00:28] <mikejet> [ 6438.200535] npviewer.bin[3268]: segfault at ff99cd48 ip 00000000ff99cd48 sp 00000000ffc3ddfc error 14
[00:28] <alid> I installed kubuntu 9.10 last night and it was all working. Today, for some reason, I am unable to play any video format. Except for youtube, none of my offline video files are being played. Any ideas?
[00:28] <n8tuser> alid try the vlc player
[00:29] <timepilot> alid: somewhat similar to my issue.  mp3s wont play in rhythmbox but will in other apps.  i agree w/ n8tuser, try another app.
[00:29] <alid> n8tuser: That's exactly how I am trying to play video. But vlc keeps saying: "vlc does not support the audio or video format ...."
[00:29] <timepilot> alid: then try mplayer
[00:30] <n8tuser> alid then perhaps convert it to become compatible
[00:30] <timepilot> n8tuser: it was working for him yesterday
[00:30] <alid> timepilot: I tried Dragon player, but it didn't work either. I think there should be something wrong with my codec packs.
[00:30] <drbobb> nerdy_kid: you could have d/l'ed the deb of b43-fwcutter on a different machine (or in windows) and installed it from a usb stick
[00:30] <myk_> 64bit live on usb disk hangs after splash, anyone have any idea?
[00:30] <kankan_> how to install xorg for intel?
[00:31] <drbobb> nerdy_kid: never mind, it still needs to download stuff to become operative, forgot that
[00:31] <frostburn> myk_, hangs on mine with iso too, i installed an older  version and ugpraded to 9.10
[00:31] <nerdy_kid> drbobb yeah lol
[00:31] <n8tuser> timepilot-> perhap he changed some configs.. same file he tried to play yesterday?
[00:31] <alid> n8tuser: I was able to play all video formats last night. I really don't what wrong I have done from last night.
[00:31] <BoredKender> noob question... how do i comment out something?
[00:31] <th1> kankan_, it should get installed by default
[00:31] <SeaPhor> why would it play in the last release and not in this?? i thought this was a "growth" not a z"lets change stuff just to change it"...
[00:31] <myk_> thanks frostburn, thats the info I was looking for, I will wait till they fix it.
[00:31] <frostburn> BoredKender, comment out where
[00:31] <th1> BoredKender, it depends which file it is :)
[00:31] <BoredKender> a .conf file
[00:32] <th1> BoredKender, often it's a "#" in the start of the line
[00:32] <th1> BoredKender, but it varies from program to program
[00:32] <n8tuser> alid updates? anything you installed?
[00:32] <frostburn> BoredKender, it depends on the application, typically it's a #, but all recognize it
[00:32] <BoredKender> thank you, i think that is corect
[00:32] <th1> BoredKender, for XML files it's "<!-- comment -->"
[00:32] <BoredKender> gonna restart and see if it fixes it
[00:32] <alid> n8tuser: I installed a lot of things. And yes, I just updated the system.
[00:32] <myk_> frostburn, thanks again, I am out!
[00:32] <drbobb> th1: an xml file wouldn't usually be called like *.conf
[00:33] <th1> drbobb, sometimes they are ;)
[00:33] <th1> drbobb, like the xmltv files
[00:33] <n8tuser> alid that certainly could have changed your settings..
[00:33] <drbobb> th1: that's perverse :P
[00:33] <JediMaster> anyone happen to know how to make the nvidia x server setting permanent? It can't write to the xorg.conf file
[00:33] <alid> n8tuser: Can I roll back?!
[00:33] <AAA_awright> What do I use to see what packages I have installed?
[00:33] <n8tuser> alid i am not aware of any rollback that works
[00:33] <agent_j> i'm planning on upgrading to 9.10 next week, and i have atheros wireless; how much trouble am i in for?
[00:34] <justdave> huh, I removed pulseaudio and now my sound works. :|
[00:34] <Turl> AAA_awright: a package manager? try synaptic
[00:34] <justdave> that's probably not optimal
[00:34] <alid> :(
[00:34] <AAA_awright> I can get a list of installed packages, but that isn't the same.
[00:34] <n8tuser> AAA_awright-> dpkg -l
[00:34] <Pritesh> AAA_awright : dpkg -l
[00:34] <th1> drbobb, yeah but the funny thing is that most of the xmltv config files aren't even in xml ;)
[00:34]  * justdave wonders what was hosed in pulse's config
[00:34] <Pritesh> what a timing ..lol
[00:34] <Kohnrad82> anyone else with longer boot times in 9.10?
[00:34] <jason__> has anyone figured out how to renable ctrl alt backspace in xubuntu 9.10?
[00:34] <nowimproved> no the boot times are nice, its gdm that is slow as hell
[00:34] <JediMaster> jason__, it's in the keyboard settings
[00:34] <spO> how do i install i386 arch  dshowserver  on an 64 bit system ?  I have the .deb file
[00:35] <pappanz> hi. after upgrade to 9.10 I have no audio anymore. I can't execute either amixer or alsamixer and the device is "dummy audio card" although in lsmod I can see "snd_intel8x0"
[00:35] <JediMaster> jason__, literally did it 30 sec ago
[00:35] <th1> jason__, isn't it an xorg.conf option that was already disabled by default in 9.04?
[00:35] <jbu> hi all, just upgraded from 9.04 to 9.10 and no sound and no hardware appears under preferences->sound.../var/log/messages & dmesg show any egregious errors but then again I'm not familiar with a lot of it.  Can anyone help?  I have realtek sound hw
[00:35] <jbu> don't show any *
[00:35] <jason__> JediMaster, did you do it for xubuntu?
[00:35] <KenBW2> How do I replace Pulseaudio?
[00:35] <JediMaster> jason__, no, sorry standard ubuntu 9.10
[00:35] <Kohnrad82> my boot time is almost 2 min now. wayyyyyyy longer than 9.04
[00:35]  * th1 thinks there needs to be a "No sound in 9.10" and "How do I disable pulseaudio" FAQ
[00:35] <JediMaster> Kohnrad82, 25-30 sec here, faster for me
[00:36] <jason__> JediMaster, its cool, cant figure it out for the life of me
[00:36] <th1> BoredKender, did it work :)
[00:36] <nerdy_kid> drbobb ok restarting
[00:36] <bj0> jason__, it's like DontZap or something
[00:36] <Shwack> What is the best game to get in Software Center?
[00:36] <JediMaster> no, dontzap isn't on 9.10
[00:36] <JediMaster> just checked
[00:36] <AAA_awright> n8tuser Pritesh: Yeah that's all installed packages. What about the ones I installed?
[00:36] <KenBW2> th1: i have sound, it's just too buggy
[00:36] <jason__> yea its not there
[00:36] <pappanz> th1, so is there a conflict between alsa and pulseaudio?
[00:36] <sharperguy> Anyone else having trouble in 9.10 with the volume control applet? As in, there isn't one, even in the add-to-panel menu?
[00:36] <AAA_awright> I know it keeps track *somewhere*
[00:36] <devon> so when does the next alpha come out?
[00:36] <fager> Hi all
[00:36] <n8tuser> AAA_awright-> is it managed via dpkg?
[00:37] <frostburn> sp0, you can force it at the commandline, i don't recall the switch, make sure you have the lib32 libraries as well, there's tons of documentation on it
[00:37] <KenBW2> sharperguy: it in the notification area...
[00:37] <th1> pappanz, pulseaudio is a layer above alsa so technically no.. but pulseaudio is buggy so in practice yes that's what it amounts to
[00:37] <p-f> sharperguy, there was one on mine until I disabled it because it's so buggy
[00:37] <sharperguy> KenBW2, I don't see one
[00:37] <devon> is there a volume control applet for JACK?
[00:37] <KenBW2> next to the network icon?
[00:37] <felixsulla> How do you execute a .run file from the command line?
[00:37] <KenBW2> sharperguy: next to the network icon?
[00:37] <fager> I need help with my ATI drivers on 9.10. How do I install them? system -> admin -> hardwaredrivers won't find anything
[00:37] <th1> felipe_, sh filename.run
[00:37] <AAA_awright> n8tuser: Default setup, yeah, apt-get (that's dpkg-based yes?)
[00:37] <pappanz> th1, is there a workaround at the moment for the problem? I guess it is quite widespread, as it affects intel audio cards
[00:37] <drbobb> hello once again asking for help in debugging my issues with suspend & hibernate, which kind of just stopped working.. does anyone have any idea what is invoked when i choose 'suspend' from the gnome menu, and how do i figure out why it fails?
[00:37] <joaopinto> fager, which card model ?
[00:37] <n8tuser> AAA_awright-> yes, apt-get has dpkg behind it
[00:38] <sharperguy> KenBW2, Nope. I did upgrade though. Maybe it's because I disabled pulseaudio a while back
[00:38] <p-f> felixsulla, most like with sh, but you could double check by doing "file your_file", which will tell you what kind of file it really is
[00:38] <p-f> likely*
[00:38] <nerdy_kid> drbobb YESSSS thank u SO much
[00:38] <drbobb> nerdy_kid: worx?
[00:38] <KenBW2> sharperguy: pass, i did a clean install
[00:38] <sharperguy> hmm
[00:38] <felixsulla> Thanks everyone.
[00:38] <sharperguy> Well right now I have to control the volume with alsamixer
[00:38] <nerdy_kid> drbobb yes worked perfectly thanks a TON man :D
[00:38] <KenBW2> th1: so how do i replace it?
[00:38] <BoredKender> not sure yet th1. nobody has triggered a sound yet
[00:38] <drbobb> nerdy_kid: 'K, have a drink to celebrate ;)
[00:39] <agent_j> Shwack: get Battle for Wesnoth and BZFlag, and also an FPS game of some kind.
[00:39] <th1> pappanz, you can disable pulseaudio but then your volume control applet won't work. if that doesn't bother you can put autospawn=no in /etc/pulse/client.conf and kill pulseaudio
[00:39] <BoredKender> why is my s-xhat icon nit staying int the tray though?
[00:39]  * Xcell pours nerdy_kid  a drink
[00:39] <nerdy_kid> lol to young ; only 16 lol
[00:39] <Shwack> agnent_J:   thx
[00:39] <fager> joaopinto: its a radeon 9600
[00:39] <drbobb> nerdy_kid: duh, sorry ;)
[00:39] <pappanz> th1, isn't that strange? I mean, it should be a problem of the beta-stage, but it went straight to the final release
[00:40] <th1> KenBW2, it needs to be fixed in a better way :(
[00:40] <Kurious> bluetooth and karmic ... tried to connect .. beats once then turns itself off
[00:40] <th1> there is none at the moment
[00:40] <jbu> th1, if i change autospawn to "no" do i need to remove that semicolon in the beginning of the line?
[00:40] <fager> I did download and install the packages but I can't run aticonfig
[00:40] <nerdy_kid> drbobb lol its the thought that counts right?! haha
[00:40] <th1> I'm thinking of creating a PPA
[00:40] <Take0n> is there any guitar apps for ubuntu?
[00:40] <th1> jbu yes
[00:40] <jbu> th1, nevermind, looks like i do...it's a comment
[00:40] <Lym> Does it make a difference if I just upgrade to the official release from the beta or if I do a clean install?
[00:40] <mattgyver> Conky keeps crashing in 9.10, anyone else having that issue?
[00:40] <BoredKender> th1- nope. still crackling a little :(
[00:40] <sharperguy> Take0n, What kind of guitar app? Like tab display?
[00:40] <joaopinto> fager, is that an old model ? one of those which is no longer supported by the ATI drivers ?
[00:41] <th1> BoredKender, it could be alsa too
[00:41] <joaopinto> Lym, a clean install is prefered
[00:41] <BoredKender> but i am sure that was the correct way to comment out as it was used elsewhere in the file
[00:41] <KenBW2> th1: in Hardy i just switched all the dropdowns in System > Preferences > Sound to ALSA, but they're no longer ther ein Karmic - what's the equivalent?
[00:41] <evon> I am trying to set up an ftp server but I am having trouble with it because I have a dynamic ip. Can anyone help me make my dynamic ip a static one?
[00:41] <fager> joaopinto: yhea, its an old card. Is there no need for me to install the drivers?
[00:41] <th1> KenBW2, yes, problem is that karmic is pretty much pulse centric and there is no easy way to switch it off completely
[00:41] <qq99> apparently, DMA doesn't work for SATA drives anyway... so that was why... but why is my file operation so slow / cause IOWait to kill performance so badly?
[00:41] <Take0n> sharperguy, I don't know.. I had one on windows long time ago.. it had different songs like from metallica etc (many many artists and groups) and it showed the tabs or chords as it played the song..
[00:41] <BoredKender> th1 i am having all kinds of fits trying to track down how to fix this. have been going at it for almost 24 hours (sleep time included)
[00:41] <Take0n> something like that..
[00:41] <Xcell> KenBW2-  i think that switch is in gstreamer settings
[00:41] <th1> I am thinking they made the wrong decision there since pulse is still buggy for many
[00:41] <joaopinto> fager, there are no 3D Capable drivers available any longer, ATI dropped support for them, for those older models
[00:42] <drbobb> duh, does nobody really have a clue how to debug issues w/suspend?
[00:42] <Take0n> something that could help me learn..
[00:42] <BoredKender> th1 please pm me sith suggestions, i gotta put the kids to sleep
[00:42] <KenBW2> th1: so put up or shut up (literally)?
[00:42] <Take0n> except of ebooks and a teacher :P
[00:42] <test34> wow ecryptfs is very slow
[00:42] <th1> KenBW2, yeah or force-uninstall pulseaudio :)
[00:42] <th1> KenBW2, all you lose is the volume control applet and that can be worked around e.g. with alsamixer
[00:42] <Xcell> KenBW2-   i have not tried it but take a look in    gstreamer-properties
[00:42] <Flannel> KenBW2: Please remain polite, thanks
[00:42] <KenBW2> th1: i may have already apt-get removed pulseaudio
[00:43] <sharperguy> Take0n, Hmm. Well the closest thing I can think to that is TuxGuitar. Which basically just lets you view guitar tab files which you can get from certain websites (often for free). You can get it to play the midi version of the song although I don't think it syncs to the real song.
[00:43] <th1> Flannel, there was nothing impolite in KenBW2's message
[00:43] <KenBW2> Flannel: it wasn't meant with unpolite intent
[00:43] <fager> joaopinto: so I can uninstall the drivers and software for ati?
[00:43] <Flannel> KenBW2, th1: Alright
[00:43] <jdsandeson> Anyone know how to get karmic to do remote logg in?
[00:43] <VladTheImpaled> what is the best way to extract and download video from YouTube, and then convert it to a format that OpenOffice presentation can use to include it in a presentation?
[00:43] <Take0n> TuxGuitar huh? Is it free?
[00:43] <kyle__> has anyone heard of flash not being able to pause because of something on ubuntu 9.04
[00:43] <joaopinto> fager, you dont need to uninstall nothing
[00:44] <KenBW2> th1: if pulseaudio is removed and my volume control applet is still working is it waiting for a restart?
[00:44] <Xcell> yes
[00:44] <kyentei> kyle__:nope, always worked just fine for me. Works smooth on 9.10 now too!
[00:44] <th1> KenBW2, yes you can pkill -9 pulse to make sure
[00:45] <kyle__> i just upgraded to 9.04 and the videos upload and play fine its just i cant pause them or use any of the other comands
[00:45] <kebomix> how to install ati driver on ubuntu 9.10 ?
[00:45] <KenBW2> th1: well now that you tell me i can't have the applet i'd rather put up with pulseaudio
[00:45] <icehawk78> I've set a static IP and now can't get online out, but can still connect into it from outside, but could when I got info from DHCP. Is there something I need to set besides /etc/network/interfaces?
[00:45] <th1> KenBW2, that's what I ended up with as well
[00:45] <kyentei> kyle__:You are talking about YouTube I suppose?
[00:45] <th1> I just wish the old applet was still around or installable
[00:45] <dr3mro_> plz can any one help me install codec in ubuntu
[00:46] <kyle__> ya. and everyother video playing site
[00:46] <th1> dr3mro_, which codec?
[00:46] <KenBW2> th1: argh, why make half-baked software mandatory
[00:46] <erUSUL> icehawk78: what error you get when you try to ocnnect ? maybe no DNS's ? or the route lacks a default gateaway ?
[00:46] <kyentei> kyle__:Adobe Flash you said? Have you tried re-installing the Addon? (I suppose you are using Firefox)
[00:46] <VladTheImpaled> kyle:  the YouTube videos should be FLV files, which VLC can play and pause ok
[00:46] <th1> KenBW2, it's also what I question..
[00:46] <th3raid0r> th1, nothing worked
[00:46] <lockd> KenBW2: while the applet is kind of nice, I'd rather not use 200% CPU time on running some ill behaved ALSA apps
[00:46] <fager> joaopinto: What can I do to get better performance of my old ati card now?
[00:46] <teicah> Thanks to karmic developers.  Now question:  where/how do I control bootup services?
[00:47] <th1> dr3mro_,  http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[00:47] <th1> th3raid0r, i'm sorry to hear it
[00:47] <erUSUL> !upstart
[00:47] <lockd> KenBW2: note, if you set your pulseaudio to dmix/dsnoop, you can run traditional alsa apps just fine, but the volume control won't control them
[00:47] <KenBW2> lockd: is that why sound hangs when i do something CPU intensive?
[00:47] <kebomix> how to install ati driver on ubuntu 9.10 ?
[00:47] <kyle__> ya. i tried reinstalling but i get some error message because i have a 64bit and there is some pluginn deal that i dont know how to use. do you know anything about it?
[00:47] <th3raid0r> th1, for some odd reason xorg was spouting errors about invalid entries and that it couldn't parse xorg.conf
[00:47] <lockd> KenBW2: yep
[00:47] <Take0n> sharperguy, thank you very much!
[00:48] <jbu_>  is there a sound problems ubuntu faq page, anyone?
[00:48] <th1> th3raid0r, I couldn't find better docs from the fglrx driver ... but look in /usr/share/doc/fglrx/driverfaq.html
[00:48] <KenBW2> th1: i suppose you could apply the same question to NotifyOSD and that envelope in the notification area
[00:48] <lockd> KenBW2: ALSA can do that too, of course, since Linux isn't realtime. but it's less noticeable
[00:48] <erUSUL> !sound
[00:48] <KenBW2> lockd: all i see is that alsa never did it for me but PA is doing
[00:48] <icehawk78> erUSUL: "Could not resolve"
[00:48] <th1> KenBW2, yes but at least they just sit there and do little harm
[00:48] <kyentei> kyle__: I do not have a direct answer for you. You could try the VLC suggestion which was suggested above. Or you could try and find another alternative on flash players. Though, I'm pretty sure the Adobe website should have just the right package for you.
[00:48] <KenBW2> th1: apart from make simple operations take more clicks
[00:48] <lockd> KenBW2: what I do? Just remove pulseaudio, install gnome-media from Debian Sid
[00:49] <th1> I mean overall Karmic is great but the decision to go all-out with pulseaudio was imho plain wrong
[00:49] <erUSUL> icehawk78: then the problem is with DNS's probably the dhcpd server provided them
[00:49] <lockd> th1: not Ubuntu's decision
[00:49] <th1> lockd, whose then?
[00:49] <KenBW2> lockd: but the volume control applet is pretty important to me :(
[00:49] <nerdy_kid> hey guys, what flash package should i install?  ive tryed adobe but it lags big time in fullscreen...
[00:49] <lockd> th1: Gnome
[00:49] <lockd> KenBW2: well, you get a volume control applet that you can add to the panel with gnome-media from Sid
[00:49] <g0th_> hi
[00:49] <th1> lockd, ubuntu has a lot of clout in that sort of thing :) we could have said "forget it we're not having it" and kept a patch queue against it
[00:49] <g0th_> I upgraded to karmic
[00:50] <KenBW2> lockd: oh you mean use actual debian packages on ubuntu?
[00:50] <dr3mro_> th1 all
[00:50] <th1> lockd, pulseaudio is simply not ready for the mainstream
[00:50] <lockd> KenBW2: yes, exactly
[00:50] <g0th_> but somehow all my mail settings vannished. Where can I find them?
[00:50] <g0th_> I used shredder
[00:50] <KenBW2> lockd: any issues i should know about?
[00:50] <icehawk78> erUSUL: Is there something that I can look for to set that, then?
[00:50] <th1> the only good thing is that pulseaudio has actually got a lot better in the last 3 months because of this
[00:50] <erUSUL> icehawk78: add a line like "dns-nameservers ip_dns_1 i_dns_2" to interfaces in the apropiate section
[00:50] <lockd> th1: and ALSA just barely. it has better device support but is not quite as useful as OSS
[00:50] <th1> e.g. now it works ok with my Eee 1000he
[00:50] <fede1> hi i'm uploading a problem from the pidgin integrated tool
[00:50] <lockd> th1: and believe me it's even harder to switch all packages to use OSS
[00:51] <th1> lockd, Alsa is fine.. and so is pulseaudio it's just not ready for mainstream yet
[00:51] <lockd> KenBW2: you have to define the media-keys yourself, or use xfce4-volumed
[00:51] <KenBW2> lockd: media keys?
[00:51] <th1> there's nothing wrong with pulseaudio as a concept it's just too buggy yet
[00:51] <fede1> the problem information will contain other info regarding telepathy or just pidgin?
[00:51] <lockd> KenBW2: well,if your keyboard or sound card has buttons that let you set the volume
[00:51] <g0th_> I upgraded to karmic. Before I used the shredder mail client, after the upgrade to karmic I dont find my mail settings anymore. How do I get them back?
[00:52] <g0th_> That involves over 1GB mail data
[00:52] <KenBW2> lockd: meh, i never use them anyway
[00:52] <AussieGuy> My ubuntu upgrade was interrupted due to the fact that I was running gdm at the same time as the upgrade. I had to terminate gdm to configure certain packages, which interrupted the upgrade. Now ive done a full partial-upgrade. My system boots and has all kinds of display and network problems
[00:52] <AussieGuy> is it possible to re-run the upgrade to karmic?
[00:52] <th1> g0th_, can't you get the shredder client back?
[00:52] <g0th_> th1: how?
[00:52] <th1> g0th_, from Software Center?
[00:52] <g0th_> it is not listed
[00:52] <g0th_> only thunderbird
[00:52] <teicah> how to launch upstart graphical interface?
[00:53] <th1> g0th_, maybe it's deprecated
[00:53] <drbobb> hello I need some help debugging issues with suspend/hibernate!!
[00:53] <g0th_> I dont know what is the case
[00:53] <g0th_> I just want to know where I can find my mail data
[00:53] <th1> g0th_, I never used it
[00:53] <KenBW2> lockd: am i adding a repo or just installing a/some .deb's?
[00:53] <g0th_> it is certainly not deprecated
[00:53] <AussieGuy> DNS problems abound, dhclient wont find my network adapter, one tty is full of strange and unusual characters
[00:53] <g0th_> but maybe the name changed since they made an official release
[00:53] <th1> g0th_, I can't even find it from aptitude search
[00:53] <g0th_> or something like that
[00:53] <erUSUL> g0th_: shredder is TB 3 ? install that
[00:53] <kyentei> AussieGuy: Ubuntu and all other linux distro's are quite vulnerable to interruptions like that. I'd suggest you run a live-cd/usb and back-up the files you need. After that, run a complete, fresh install and learn from this mistake.
[00:53] <KenBW2> g0th_: i'd assume it'd be in ~/.shredder in your old installation
[00:54] <ptc> In KDE, the application khotkeys offers a feature so I can bind a key shortcut to type out a string (e.g: when I press Win+H it types out "http://") ...Is there any similar application in Gnome?
[00:54] <g0th_> I dont have that directory
[00:54] <lockd> KenBW2: just one deb
[00:54] <BoredKender> th1- so uninstalling pulse may help?
[00:54] <g0th_> erUSUL: I installed TB 3
[00:54] <th1> g0th_, maybe its just thunderbird now and all you have to do is rename the directory?
[00:54] <lockd> KenBW2: http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/g/gnome-media/gnome-media_2.28.1-1_amd64.deb
[00:54] <g0th_> th1: which directory?
[00:54] <erUSUL> g0th_: but mail is missing ?
[00:54] <th1> the one where the data files are stored
[00:54] <AussieGuy> there needs to be a warning not to run gdm (the program that runs X for most users), most users would take the upgrade offer
[00:54] <g0th_> erUSUL: I had like 5 GB mail data
[00:54] <th1> g0th_, but I don't know I'm just guessing here
[00:54] <AussieGuy> it should be run from a terminal, no X, no gdm
[00:54] <KenBW2> lockd: im on 32 bit - i've found http://packages.debian.org/sid/gnome-media
[00:55] <AussieGuy> update-manager shouldnt even offer to upgrade it
[00:55] <lockd> oh oops, my mistake
[00:55] <g0th_> erUSUL: not only mail missing, all the account settings too
[00:55] <AussieGuy> cos it runs on X
[00:55] <erUSUL> g0th_: that has to be easy to find... use the disk use analizer on your home dir
[00:55] <KenBW2> lockd: so am i reinstalling pulseaudio before this deb?
[00:55] <g0th_> disk use analizer?
[00:55] <kyentei> AussieGuy: are you saying that running X f'd up your upgrade?
[00:55] <lockd> KenBW2: i thought you removed pulseaudio and lost the mixer
[00:55] <ascheel> Anybody else having an issue with CPUFreq not starting up after upgrading 9.04 to 9.10?  "The panel encountered a problem while loading "OAFIID:GNOME_CPU_FreqApplet"."
[00:55] <AussieGuy> gdm which controls X
[00:56] <sabat> Why does ubuntu use pulse audio when 75% of the howto's/faq's/manuals say it sucks, you should remove it and use alsa/whatever instead... so why still have it default with ubuntu when EVERYONE out there making fixes and howto's says "step 1, disable pulseaudio," or is that ubuntu's attempt to be somewhat like microsoft and include faulty and weak extra's... sigh.
[00:56] <KenBW2> lockd: mixer is still in Sound Preferences
[00:56] <alid> I just removed "libavcodec52" and "libformat52" and it spoiled my system. Now, I can't play any video or audio files. Is there any way to fix it (please)?
[00:56] <marcelcohrs> how do i look up my ip address via conseole in ubuntu 910 server?
[00:56] <AussieGuy> a configuration terminal popped up, saying gdm cannot be run at the same time as this reconfiguration
[00:56] <marcelcohrs> whats the command?
[00:56] <Blizzerand> I'm thinking of writing an article on Installing Ubuntu in Windows . So which title would be a betterr title , Install ubuntu with wubi or Install Ubuntu inside windows
[00:56] <ascheel> marcelcohrs: ifconfig
[00:56] <drbobb> g0th_: just look for a folder in your home dir that is over 5GB phat
[00:56] <kyentei> I see. It's too late for a solution now though. I don't think you  can re-upgrade. It might be worth posting on the Ubuntu forums
[00:56] <marcelcohrs> @ ascheel
[00:56] <marcelcohrs> doesnt work
[00:56] <marcelcohrs> ?
[00:56] <erUSUL> marcelcohrs: ifconfig -a
[00:56] <th1> Blizzerand, the 2nd one
[00:56] <AussieGuy> so pretty much yes
[00:56]  * jbu_ gives up
[00:56] <marcelcohrs> from wich director\y
[00:56] <qq99> sabat: their goal to get people interested in linux, then disappoint that audience into making them create their own distros or modify others ;)
[00:56] <marcelcohrs> ?
[00:56] <KenBW2> lockd: should i put PA back or leave as is
[00:56] <ColdLunch> Hey.
[00:56] <th1> Blizzerand, since those who want to do that won't know what the 1st one means :)
[00:56] <ascheel> marcelcohrs: tell us more than 'doesn't work'.  Why doesn't it work? What does it say?
[00:56] <fede1> Blizzerand: the 2nd one ...or "install ubuntu like a app"
[00:56] <marcelcohrs> ?
[00:56] <FloodBot3> marcelcohrs: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:56] <drbobb> g0th_: its name probably starts with a dot, so it's normally hidden
[00:57]  * erUSUL has no problems with PA
[00:57] <ColdLunch> I have a problem and I'm a noob. Can anyone help? :)
[00:57] <Blizzerand> th1 , thanks
[00:57] <lockd> KenBW2: wait, what distro version?
[00:57] <galaxyinside> Hi people
[00:57] <ascheel> !ask | ColdLunch
[00:57] <Blizzerand> fede1 : Thanks for the suggestion
[00:57] <sabat> qq99 that makes sense. I kinda consider the whole pulse-audio deal to be ubuntu trying ot be microsoft-like.
[00:57] <KenBW2> lockd: Karmic
[00:57] <KenBW2> ColdLunch: yea, if you put your problem
[00:57] <th1> Blizzerand, if you do write it send me a mail with the url
[00:57] <lockd> KenBW2: karmic's mixer applet shouldn't work without pulseaudio, if it's still working pulse is probably still running
[00:57] <Nixed> Hi. I'm experiencing an issue with my new Karmic Install, which I may have narrowed down, but don't know how to fix.
[00:57] <ColdLunch> I am trying to install adobe-flashplugin to watch youtube videos, but whenever I try a popup box says "You can only have 1 software manager open at a time"
[00:57] <Blizzerand> th1 : w
[00:57] <g0th_> drbobb: didnt find it
[00:57] <ColdLunch> but i only have one open!!!
[00:57] <sabat> i.e.: Let's include this, it doesn't work right yet, but if we use it we get more support calls!
[00:58] <beilabs> Karmic seems to have ruined my sound.....gnome-volume-control-applet doesnt work at alll...
[00:58] <qq99> sabat: it's not a bad idea for a project, what would be cooler is if you could control streams.. like VOIP to my right ear, music to my left
[00:58] <Nixed> Karmic hang after it launches the desktop, but works fine with the proprietary driver everytime I startx in Recovery Mode.
[00:58] <Blizzerand> th1 : How do I know your email lol
[00:58] <ascheel> Can someone tell me the difference between Alsa and PulseAudio and why both are included?
[00:58] <KenBW2> lockd: i'll put it back then before it realises it's gone :P
[00:58] <Nixed> Something is starting up with startx, that's causing it to hang on normal boot
[00:58] <erUSUL> marcelcohrs: you made a typo « ifconfig -a » ; « ip a » can be used too
[00:58] <sabat> I thin BoFH has somethign to do with the developement of pulse-audio.
[00:58] <BoredKender> restarting again
[00:58] <sabat> think*
[00:58] <nick125> ascheel: PulseAudio is a program that "sits ontop" of ALSA. ALSA is a part of the kernel
[00:58] <Nixed> Anyone know where the startx file is called from on boot?
[00:58] <erUSUL> sabat: not true :)
[00:58] <g0th_> I just dont find the data anymore
[00:58] <ascheel> nick125: gotcha.
[00:59] <g0th_> I have no clue where it is
[00:59] <AussieGuy> Most users run gdm to control their X. Update-manager, which runs on X, offers to upgrade to karmic. There is a package which requires gdm (and therefore X) to be shut down in order to fully upgrade. Thats why update-manger should not offer to upgrade to karmic
[00:59] <g0th_> I need those mail datas
[00:59] <sharperguy> Anyone have any idea how I can get the mixer back? I think it's to do with the fact that I disable pulseaudio a while back because it was causing way more problems than any benefit.
[00:59] <erUSUL> Nixed: startx is not called on boot. startx has to be called explixcity
[00:59] <g0th_> they involve stuff from my work
[00:59] <mado> howdy folks! ...
[00:59] <galaxyinside> I installed steam in my ubuntu 9.10 64bits with wine and everything run good until I want play...The steam goes freeze!! and I can't play...Help please.
[00:59] <nick125> ascheel: The reason for using Pulseaudio is that it handles mixing and it also allows the user to do things, such as change the sound output of an application in real-time.
[00:59] <Colonel_Panik> ColdLunch, use command line ps aux and see if you have a zombie process of update manager running
[00:59] <ascheel> nick125: thank you.  :)
[00:59] <sabat> sharperguy you might need to install it, but try alsa-mixer and see if its working
[00:59] <meowpup> hi i am having trouble burning  iso files. if i mount iso and copy that to cd will it boot.
[00:59] <g0th_> pulseaudio crashed for me though
[01:00] <Nixed> erUSUL: Okay, I migght be confused. What launches X at boot time then?
[01:00] <KenBW2> lockd: argh, there it goes again - jumpy sound when PA isntalls
[01:00] <bryan__> hello all, i just upgraded and now my touchpad doesnt work
[01:00] <sabat> and just like everyone else, I would suggest you disable pulse-audio anyways.
[01:00] <mado> er ... am i blind or do i search with wrong keywords or something? ... i'm looking for a way to change all the icons and "install" some icons i found on "gnome-look.org" ->
[01:00] <erUSUL> Nixed: init system launchs gdm
[01:00] <mado> can anyone please help me?
[01:00] <mado> ubuntu 9.10
[01:00] <g0th_> it partially works but it is slow and buggy to all my knowledge so far
[01:00] <sharperguy> sabat, What package might it be in?
[01:01] <lockd> KenBW2: can you believe this developed as a part of Enlightenment which used to be a lightweight window manager?
[01:01] <sabat> alsa-utils
[01:01] <KenBW2> lockd: PA did?
[01:01] <sabat> #sudo apt-get install alsa-utils
[01:01] <dclark1235> hi I cannot find how to view what services are running in 9.10.  8.04 had a services menu item in the system menu
[01:01] <sharperguy> sabat, It seems to already be installed
[01:01] <lockd> KenBW2: well, ESD did, PA is basically a newer ESD
[01:01] <sharperguy> sabat, But no mixer applet or alsa-mixer command
[01:01] <IndyGunFreak> mado, what did you download some theme tar files?
[01:01] <sabat> it's a console mixer
[01:01] <bryan__> i am unable to get my laptops touchpad to work..
[01:01] <sabat> open a term and run it
[01:01] <sharperguy> sabat, you mean alsamixer?
[01:02] <sabat> ya
[01:02] <galaxyinside> Hi people! I need your help please with a  problem with Steam in ubuntu 9.10
[01:02] <KenBW2> lockd: so we gain the ability to vary the volme per-app
[01:02] <Xcell> mado-  usually all you have to do is download the icon theme.. then go to themes and click install and navigate to where you downloaded it
[01:02] <erUSUL> g0th_: do you seea ~/.thunderbird/ folder in your home ?
[01:02] <lockd> KenBW2: true it's got more features like moving streams and being able to control the volume per app
[01:02] <KenBW2> lockd: hardly worth sacrificing your CPU for
[01:02] <sharperguy> sabat, Well that's the problem I'm trying to sort because that's all I can use at the moment
[01:02] <lockd> KenBW2: yep, which OSS has natively
[01:02] <nick125> Anyone here know how to get the Ubuntu installer to create a journalless ext4 FS?
[01:02] <beilabs> sharperguy, sound not working?
[01:02] <Nixed> erUSUL if GDM launches it, then how do I control it's settings?
[01:02] <KenBW2> lockd: what's up with OSS then
[01:02] <r4z0rw0lf> i need help getting empathy to work
[01:02] <erUSUL> Nixed: what settings exactly ?
[01:02] <Phenomenon> ..
[01:03] <drbobb> helloooo I am still looking for help debugging suspend/hibernate. It plain doesn't work for me
[01:03] <kankan_> serious problem!! booting problem.screen getting blank and irresponsive just after selection from GRUB
[01:03] <ascheel> After upgrading Jaunty to Karmic, anybody know why I'd get this error:  The panel encountered a problem while loading "OAFIID:GNOME_CPUFreqApplet".
[01:03] <sharperguy> beilabs, Sound is fine but theres no volume control/mixer applet so I have to use alsamixer
[01:03] <mado> IndyGunFreak, i didn't download anything at all at the moment ... because i wanted to check for a gui-based tool that helps me to install new icons ... as far as i know i've seen something like this in KDE ... but i'm an apprentice ... so ... don't take my word for it
[01:03] <lockd> KenBW2: used to be proprietary, so it'll never get in kernel
[01:03] <erUSUL> g0th_: is a hiden folder you have to use "ls -a" in terminal or press crtl + h on nautilus to see it
[01:03] <g0th_> erUSUL: no but .thunderbird-3.0
[01:03] <KenBW2> *used* to be?
[01:03] <hewlett> ciao a tutti
[01:03] <Nixed> erUSUL: I wan tto control the parameters it passes to X on booth. Something it initiates, causes my desktop to crash. When I startx from Recover Mode's Command Line, it works flawlessly
[01:03] <erUSUL> g0th_: and the mail is not there ?
[01:03] <g0th_> some mail is
[01:03] <KenBW2> lockd: surely if it's GPL now it can be in the kernel?
[01:04] <g0th_> but if I start thunderbird it is not recognized
[01:04] <fede1> mado: you can download the icon pack e drag it in the themes tool
[01:04] <g0th_> ie. it asks me to fill in the account settings
[01:04] <beilabs> sharperguy, had the same issue.  sharperguy, the way I got it to work was to delete the pulse audio cookie in the home directory...seemed to lock everything up. then kill all of pulseaudio, start it back up and then run gnome-volume-control from the console
[01:04] <lockd> KenBW2: well, Linus would have to approve. It's VERY hard to get "redundant" code into the kernel
[01:04] <mado> fede1, ... what do you mean? ... the ol' drag and drop?
[01:04] <fede1> mado: yes
[01:04] <KenBW2> lockd: redundant, as in when it already has ALSA?
[01:05] <galaxyinside> It's ok just give a channel in spanish for help.
[01:05] <erUSUL> Nixed: well the difference between gdm and startx is that gdm rads conf from xsession and startx read it from xinitrc
[01:05] <mom> erUSUL, fyi you can do ls $(< textfile) too
[01:05] <hewlett> eo
[01:05] <lockd> KenBW2: yes. and alsa has more hardware supported, so Linux would still need to keep it
[01:05] <mado> :) ... and which tab should be open? ... i mean ... there is nothing written for icons
[01:05] <th3raid0r> th1, I did it! yai *executes happy dance*
[01:05] <th1> th3raid0r, excellent :) what was it?
[01:05] <kankan_> serious problem!! booting problem.screen getting blank and irresponsive just after selection from GRUB
[01:05] <cecilia> hi, I can't lauch update manager... i'm using jaunty 9.04, want to upgrade to 9.10 but I just can't... I tried sudo apt-get dist-upgrade but nothing happened from terminal
[01:05] <sharperguy> beilabs, Wow, worked perfectly, thanks!
[01:05] <Nixed> erUSUL: Okay, so my issue would be with xsession then?
[01:05] <mado> wait wait fede1 ... i think i found it now ...
[01:06] <KenBW2> lockd: so we're in the usual problem - noone uses it so it's not supported, so noone uses it...
[01:06] <beilabs> sharperguy, no problemo, glad I could help....
[01:06] <Oli``> Is DVB Daemon packaged?
[01:06] <erUSUL> g0th_: maybe you can import it to TB 3. Tb stores mail in mbox files try to import the old ones
[01:06] <g0th_> erUSUL: should I just rename the directory and everything will magically work?
[01:06] <erUSUL> Nixed: could be.
[01:06] <mickster04> hey im gettin repeated battery report problems when i turn on my eee900
[01:06] <mado> theme -> edit -> icons ;=)
[01:06] <lockd> KenBW2: yeah, and if solaris dies, nobody at all will use it
[01:06] <g0th_> erUSUL: it didnt show me anything in the wizard
[01:06] <fede1> mado: ok exactly
[01:06] <mado> there it is fede1 IndyGunFreak
[01:06] <r4z0rw0lf> i need help with empathy please?
[01:06] <KenBW2> lockd: solaris uses OSS?
[01:06] <mado> thanks fede1
[01:06] <erUSUL> g0th_: dunno; maybe there is some how to in the web
[01:06] <Xcell> lol
[01:07] <th3raid0r> th1, I just had to read the documentation myself to see where to put those values. They all belong under device and they also require the Option "something" "argument" format.
[01:07] <fede1> mado: ;)
[01:07] <mado> how could i miss this entry?
[01:07] <mado> well ... maybe i'm tired :)
[01:07] <MightyTweek> cecilia: go into synaptic and check which repository it's pointing to, you might want to try another one
[01:07] <th3raid0r> th1, I can forward you my xorg.conf file so you can help others if you like.
[01:07] <drbobb> g0th_: I would make a copy of the folder just in case, before launching any thunderbird or doing anything else on it
[01:07] <cecilia> how can i do this?
[01:07] <deusr_> hi
[01:07] <cecilia> at synaptic? where should i look?
[01:07] <fede1> mado: probably :)
[01:07] <th1> th3raid0r, yeah please
[01:07] <lockd> KenBW2: yes, OSS/Boomer
[01:08] <MightyTweek> cecilia, go into System>Administration>Software Sources
[01:08] <KenBW2> lockd: so im just installing this gnome-media as normal?
[01:08] <cecilia> alright
[01:08] <kankan_> Nixed:ou stated a problem.may i know the problem?
[01:08] <mado> fede1, IndyGunFreak ... i'll probably have to ask some more things later or ... maybe after some sleep :)
[01:08] <hewlett> c'è qualcuno che mi capisce?? :-)
[01:08] <bios> installed samba4 and changed workgroup name still cannot open shard folers
[01:08] <alid> Is there any way to repair an ubuntu installation? I have accidentally removed a bunch of packages.
[01:08] <fede1> ciao hewlett dimmi ;)
[01:08] <g0th_> drbobb: too late but yeah I did a copy of .thunderbird-3.0 as soon as I realized there was something wrong (but I already started the client etc)
[01:08] <mickster04> hey so no one else is getting repeated battery report problems when they turn on their laptops
[01:08] <hewlett> ei fedel
[01:08] <drbobb> *sigh* no help here for me, byebye
[01:08] <Flannel> alid: Just reinstall them
[01:08] <TheCheeze|away> ok, uninstalled pulse... let's see what happens
[01:08] <erUSUL> g0th_: i would make a copy of the folder and then make some tsts if something goes wrong you still have the copy
[01:08] <fede1> mado: if i will be there ok
[01:09] <norrec> mickster04, nope
[01:09] <lockd> KenBW2: if you're going to continue to use PulseAudio, you don't need to, but if you want to switch to just alsa, just install it with dpkg
[01:09] <mado> thanks fede1
[01:09] <deusr_> Does anyone know how I do to get the screen that appears when you install a new kernel?
[01:09] <mado> *smiles*
[01:09] <kankan_> how to start X from recovery mode?
[01:09] <MightyTweek> alid, if ubuntu-desktop is not installed, install it, it should install everything you need
[01:09] <alid> Flannel: I tried but it gave me an error with respect to dependencies.
[01:09] <norrec> mickster04, whats the error?
[01:09] <mickster04> norrec, hmm, anybody use and eee900 with the unr?
[01:09] <Flannel> alid: What error?
[01:09] <g0th_> erUSUL: what would you try for tests?
[01:09] <hewlett> siccome sono nuovo di qst programma mi sapresti dire come cercare??
[01:09] <bios> mickster04 - does it last for loong
[01:09] <bios> without power support
[01:09] <fede1> hewlett: cosa devi cercare
[01:09] <cecilia> it didn't open... just like update manager... i'm having this sort of problem with some programs since yesterday
[01:09] <mickster04> norrec, well it just reports the battery is at 1.4% yeah its last as normal, just at first it complains
[01:09] <KenBW2> lockd: so doing this will have me with reliable sound that doesn't die, and i'll still have use of volume control applet?
[01:09] <erUSUL> g0th_: you talk about renaming the folder...
[01:09] <andey> sorry to interupt something, but does anyone know how to stop the auto file creation of Documents/Music/Pictures/Public/Templates/Videos
[01:09] <deusr_> someone??
[01:09] <g0th_> erUSUL: I already tried it
[01:10] <hewlett> c'è differenza?
[01:10] <deusr_> help me!
[01:10] <cecilia> system--administration---software sources... nothing happened
[01:10] <MightyTweek> cecilia, open a terminal and type upd
[01:10] <Ahmuck> does ubuntu have a notifier for the upgrade?
[01:10] <cecilia> ok
[01:10] <BlakStone> Is there a way to upgrade and default any dialog boxes that might come up?
[01:10] <MightyTweek> cecilia, open a terminal and typ
[01:10] <adaptr> Ahmuck: it does, yes
[01:10] <erUSUL> g0th_: :| i do not use TB myself so can not help further... maybe there is a TB channel here...
[01:10] <th3raid0r> th1, wow, i got clickjacked when going to pastebin, haha, good thing I am on Ubuntu. But here is my xorg.conf http://pastebin.org/49663
[01:10] <fede1> hewlett: be si
[01:10] <alid> Flannel: "A package dependency could not be found. More information is available in the detailed report."
[01:10] <scottj> If I'm not running Gnome then what should I use to select a wireless network and connect?
[01:10] <KenBW2> andey: maybe remove their references from ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs
[01:10] <BlakStone> really stinks when i choose to upgrade and wake up the next morning to find it still waiting for input from some new version of phpmyadmin or something...
[01:10] <sharperguy> Oh, but the volume control doesn't actually do anything... And apparently doesn't work in amarok.
[01:10] <MightyTweek> cecilia, open a terminal and type update-manager
[01:10] <cecilia> type what?
[01:10] <cecilia> ok
[01:10] <theham> Hello everyone, i have installed the new ubutu on my laptop first, and then i installed the windows 7. i think it kinda overided the grub booting thing. is there a way to make it work?
[01:10] <Flannel> alid: And the detailed report?  Is this through synaptic? or what?
[01:10] <hewlett> a si?! vabbè mettiamo un gioco
[01:11] <norrec> mickster04, hmm, and u didnt have it with a previous version unr?
[01:11] <adaptr> BlakStone: there are flags you can use with apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:11] <mickster04> norrec, nope
[01:11] <MightyTweek> apparently super-space maps to "enter" when you don't have gnome-do installed :/
[01:11] <alid> Flannel: I am running kubuntu 9.10. It is KPackageKit.
[01:11] <andey> thanks
[01:11] <mickster04> norrec, even does it hen plugged in
[01:11] <hewlett> come funziona con gli script?
[01:11] <fede1> hewlett: be di sicuro non devi cercarlo qui
[01:11] <ctmjr> scottj, try wicd
[01:11] <alid> Flannel: In the detailed report it says: Remove the package libpostproc51 before
[01:11] <Ahmuck> adaptr: mine seems as though it's not working
[01:11] <cecilia> MightyTweek, look: http://paste.ubuntu.com/305520/
[01:11] <adaptr> Ahmuck: why do you need to be notified ? just upgrade
[01:11] <MightyTweek> !fixgrub | theham
[01:11] <Flannel> alid: Er, Try using apt-get, it'll give you a more detailed explanation
[01:12] <KenBW2> lockd: so doing this will have me with reliable sound that doesn't die, and i'll still have use of volume control applet?
[01:12] <qq99> what's the best flash player?
[01:12] <mickster04> !best| qq99,
[01:12] <sven_oostenbrink> I have an ubuntu-server 9.04 which I want to upgrade to 9.10.. I know to use update-manager on ubuntu normal, but how do I upgrade on ubuntu-server?
[01:12] <Ahmuck> adaptr: i've tried.  "sudo aptiutde update" and then "sudo aptitude full-upgrade".  however i'm still on 9.04
[01:12] <adaptr> sven_oostenbrink: there is no difference between versions
[01:12] <th3raid0r> th1, so do you see what I had to do?
[01:12] <norrec> mickster04, hm, well that means its a problem with the power management package prob, but i havent seen anyone else with that problem today
[01:12] <mickster04> qq99, just get adobe flash?
[01:12] <adaptr> Ahmuck: apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:12] <kankan_> serious problem!! booting problem.screen getting blank and irresponsive just after selection from GRUB
[01:12] <lockd> KenBW2: yes, you will just have to add an applet "Volume Control" in add to panel
[01:12] <hewlett> ok e dove..cioè io usavo mirc su windows e li serviva uno script x la ricerca
[01:12] <mickster04> norrec, well thanks, my friend who also has an asus gets the same thing
[01:13] <Ahmuck> sven_oostenbrink: same answer, "sudo aptitude dist-upgrade"
[01:13] <sven_oostenbrink> adaptr: yes there is, ubuntu-server doesn't have anything graphic installed..
[01:13] <th1> lol th3raid0r I got clickjacked too
[01:13] <KenBW2> lockd: oh, like it was in older ubuntus?
[01:13] <sven_oostenbrink> Ahmuck: ah, thanks!
[01:13] <lockd> KenBW2: it's still possible to cause ALSA to die of course. but if you don't have alsa-oss emulation, you should be fine
[01:13] <adaptr> sven_oostenbrink: since you already know this, you also know how to use apt-get
[01:13] <th1> th3raid0r, it seems almost what I said, what was different?
[01:13] <norrec> mickster04, hmm well its just not reporting it correctly, pm me the details and i'll try to report a bug for that package
[01:13] <KenBW2> lockd: is it reversible by just uninstalling gnome-media?
[01:14] <MightyTweek> cecilia, sounds like you may have uninstalled something you shouldn't have. What happens if you run apt-get install ubuntu-desktop?
[01:14] <th3raid0r> th1, just my understanding of it, you left out the option part as well.
[01:14] <Ahmuck> sven_oostenbrink: nm
[01:14] <shadow98> nice to have the new version installed
[01:14] <sven_oostenbrink> adaptr: nah, I was talking about update-manager, a graphical app.. aptitude sounds better
[01:14] <Ahmuck> adaptr: that did not work
[01:14] <cecilia> ok, let me try it
[01:14] <norrec> mickster04, like ur hardware details, or u can see if they have a bug report on it already, i'm not sure what the name of the package is, i would have to look it up
[01:14] <adaptr> Ahmuck: that tells us nothing - what did it do
[01:14] <th1> th3raid0r, so the main point was right? :)
[01:14] <lockd> KenBW2: Sid's gnome-media contains a wrapper for the volume control. it chooses between pulse or gstreamer
[01:15] <ascheel> Anybody ever see this error in syslog?  bonobo-activation-server (art-2662): could not associate with desktop session: /bin/dbus-launch terminated abnormally with the following error: Autolaunch error: X11 initialization failed.
[01:15] <alid> Flannel: I tried apt-get and it did it. But when I was removing those packages from the system, there were some dependencies who also got removed. Now apt-get fixed one of the packages that I had removed, but what about the rest of them (dependencies)?
[01:15] <Ahmuck> ... Calculating Upgrade, Done ...
[01:15] <cecilia> well, it says here that ubuntu desktop is already installed and it is the newest version
[01:15] <th3raid0r> th1, yes, indeed it was, thank you so much for pointing me in the right direction.
[01:15] <Flannel> alid: If you install package A, everything that is a dependency of A will get installed, etc.
[01:15] <Ahmuck> it just exits, 0 packages to upgrade
[01:15] <KenBW2> lockd: so if for some reason (hey, i might feel like hitting myself) i wanted to revert to PA, how would i do it
[01:15] <Flannel> alid: So apt takes care of it, you don't have to worry about it
[01:15] <th1> th3raid0r, ok I'm glad it worked for you :)
[01:16] <lockd> KenBW2: install pulseaudio
[01:16] <th1> th3raid0r, I've emailed that config to myself if anyone should ask again
[01:16] <KenBW2> lockd: oh, i shouldn't have PA installed?
[01:16] <Ahmuck> adaptr: ... Caculating Upgrade ... Done ... 0 packages upgraded "
[01:16] <Xyzumi> hi, today i've upgraded to 9.10 and lost audio. Any help?
[01:16] <lockd> KenBW2: if you don't want to use pulseaudio, don't install it. it'll run if it's in /etc/init.d/, and it's better to uninstall than to rm that file
[01:16] <adaptr> Ahmuck: apt-get update first, to make it aware of the possibility of a dist-upgrade
[01:16] <jdoghacker> how to i get wireless internet on ubuntu linux
[01:17] <Smoke1> im having issues with my SoundBox sound card im runnin a gateway laptop and well the buttons for the volume work ex. turnin up and down the volume but no sound comes out......anyone have any ideas it would be greatly appreciated plz msg me tysvm in advance
[01:17] <KenBW2> lockd: i assume i'll have to restart?
[01:17] <qq99> ugh, I accidentally installed Gnash, now I can't switch back to the Adobe flash player in firerfox :S
[01:17] <lockd> KenBW2: no, just sudo killall pulseaudio
[01:17] <Ahmuck> adaptr: apt-get and aptitude perform the same operation, correct?
[01:17] <evilaim_> wtf...
[01:17] <administrador> hola
[01:17] <adaptr> Ahmuck: not quite
[01:17] <alid> Flannel: So, I removed "libavcodec52" and "libavformat52" and all their dependencies from KPackageKit,and from then I was unable to play any media file on my computer. Now I could get "libavcodec52" back, but still I can't play any media file. Can you guess why?
[01:18] <lockd> KenBW2: shouldn't even need to restart the desktop, but you WILL have to add the panel applet
[01:18] <Flannel> alid: No idea
[01:18] <Smoke1> im having issues with my SoundBox sound card im runnin a gateway laptop and well the buttons for the volume work ex. turnin up and down the volume but no sound comes out......anyone have any ideas it would be greatly appreciated plz msg me tysvm in advance
[01:18] <jdoghacker> how do i get wireless internet on ubuntu linux
[01:18] <alid> Flannel: OK. Thank you :-)
[01:18] <KenBW2> lockd: no panel applet...
[01:18] <yousef> hi... is there a package for the eclipse gef plugin? (I'm on linux mint)
[01:18] <cecilia> MightyTweek, it says here ubuntu-desktop is the newest version
[01:18] <erUSUL> alid: install ubuntu-restricted-extras see if that helps
[01:18] <KenBW2> lockd: nothing that mentions "volume" in Add to panel"
[01:18] <erUSUL> !mint | yousef
[01:19] <lockd> KenBW2: after installing gnome-media from sid?
[01:19] <KenBW2> lockd: yep
[01:19] <Xyzumi> my audio card is a conexant High Definition Audio on a HP DV6000 Laptop
[01:19] <xrfang> hello just installed 910, but cannot find the service manager, could anyone help please
[01:19] <lockd> KenBW2: ouch, it might have been something I built by hand
[01:19] <yousef> !mintsupport
[01:19] <MightyTweek> cecilia, can you try an apt-get install python-gtk2?
[01:19] <yousef> thanks.
[01:19] <cecilia> ok
[01:19] <urix> Hey guys/gals
[01:19] <mado> oi! fede1 ?
[01:19] <alid> erUSUL: I have already intalled them, though. I think the problem is with some of the main underlying codec modules.
[01:19] <Ahmuck> adaptr: same result
[01:19] <jdoghacker> how to i get wireless internet on ubuntu linux
[01:19] <mado> have a look at -> http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/LaGaDesk-BlueNight?content=109343
[01:19] <KenBW2> lockd: gdebi did tell me there was a version of gnome-media in the repos - would that work?
[01:20] <erUSUL> alid: install gstreamer-plugins-*
[01:20] <alid> erUSUL: That is why I am trying to repair my installation.
[01:20] <mickster04> xrfang, its under start up apps or something similar
[01:20] <fede1> mado: yes?
[01:20] <mado> which one of those sets is the right one to "drag and drop" ?
[01:20] <cecilia> it said:  python-gtk2 is the newest version
[01:20] <xrfang> mickster04: startup apps are personal
[01:20] <urix> I just wanted to thank all the coders / etc on 9.10! Im a long time windows user first time linux and so far everything is working great with no problems at all!
[01:20] <xrfang> I am looking for the service manager
[01:20] <alid> erUSUL: I am running kubuntu. Does it work for kubuntu as well?
[01:20] <mickster04> xrfang,  oh ok
[01:20] <xrfang> which manages system-wide startups
[01:20] <lockd> KenBW2: looks like you need a gnome-applets that was built properly
[01:20] <xrfang> those in init.d
[01:20] <tuxydex> when will wubi 9.10 be available?
[01:20] <herrgott073> my software center does not show up under my applications drop down after upgrading to 9.10
[01:21] <fokuslee302> what is the resize too in alternative install cd? is it gparted?
[01:21] <mickster04> xrfang, what do u mean by personal
[01:21] <xrfang> it was in the SystemAdministration menu
[01:21] <sven_oostenbrink> urix: you're very welcome..
[01:21] <fokuslee302> i mean Tool
[01:21] <urix> :)
[01:21] <xrfang> personal means, they load on/after gnome login
[01:21] <KenBW2> lockd: gnome-applets from sid?
[01:21] <erUSUL> alid: dunno; ask in #kubuntu maybe you are using libxine instead of gstreamer ? phonon ?
[01:21] <xrfang> I want the stuff which manages rc.d i.e. services
[01:21] <tuxydex> when will wubi 9.10 be available?
[01:21] <jdoghacker> how do i get wireless internet on ubuntu linux
[01:21] <erUSUL> fokuslee302: alternatecd has no X so gparted can not run
[01:21] <shadow98> hey guys i have an nvida 9600 gs i tried installing the hardware drivers and things didn't work so well with trying to get my dual monitors to work..
[01:21] <lockd> KenBW2: yeah. at this rate... it feels like I'm moving from karmic to sid piece by piece
[01:22] <fokuslee302> erUSUL, sorry i meant to say parted
[01:22] <MightyTweek> cecilia, try apt-get --reinstall install python-pygtk2
[01:22] <KenBW2> lockd: indeed
[01:22] <KingKimi> Hi..! My update manager shows 380 mb of  updates available... before upgrading to koala,  i should get these updates in , right ? but it says first fix broken packages.. but i didnt find broken packegs from synaptic.... any help how to update that 380 mb ??????????????
[01:22] <mado> or asked differently fede1 -> how do i know which set i have to drag and drop into this theme/icons-menu?
[01:22] <cecilia> ok
[01:22] <shadow98> i removed the drivers and decided to download from nvida
[01:22] <lockd> KenBW2: it's annoying, but it's not like there's really a choice if you don't want pulse
[01:22] <ptc> In KDE, the application khotkeys offers a feature so I can bind a key shortcut to type out a string (e.g: when I press Win+H it types out "http://") ...Is there any similar application in Gnome?
[01:22] <erUSUL> fokuslee302: really dunno i allways do partitions beforehand
[01:22] <shadow98> however it says on nvida I may want to use the ones supplied by my distro...
[01:22] <apn> jdoghacker: click on the "network computer" icon in the top right corner.
[01:22] <shadow98> what should i do..
[01:22] <Xcell> shadow98-  nvidia put out 190.42 drivers out.. and some folks report that dual monitors work better than ever
[01:22] <fede1> mado: usually the tar.gz pack
[01:22] <ctmjr> lockd, why are you installing stuff from sid if i maight ask
[01:22] <alid> erUSUL: I am pretty sure that I am using libxine. But sudo apt-get install libxine gives an error.
[01:22] <KenBW2> lockd: im already considering removing NotifyOSD and its stupid envelope and empathy - back to Jaunty soon
[01:23] <lockd> ctmjr: well, they are deb packages, which beats recompiling gnome-media and gnome-applets
[01:23] <shadow98> xcell: so i should do a sh ./filename
[01:23] <sandipraj> hey guys. quick question.. i am using ubuntu .. and i am trying to open a windows share on another computer ... any tips on how to do that ?
[01:23] <fede1> mado: if this not work,extract it and drag & drop the item extracted
[01:23] <herrgott073> after updating to 9.10 i can no longer connect with world of warcraft.  the breaking news will load but when i try to login it instantly says "disconnected from server"
[01:23] <erUSUL> sandipraj: Places>Network>Windows Network
[01:23] <KingKimi> Hi..! My update manager shows 380 mb of  updates available... before upgrading to koala,  i should get these updates in , right ? but it says first fix broken packages.. but i didnt find broken packegs from synaptic.... any help how to update that 380 mb ??????????????
[01:23] <mado> ok ... i'll try that
[01:23] <cecilia> MightyTweek, it said:Couldn't find package python-pygtk2
[01:23] <KenBW2> lockd: and what's with the idea of Gnome's to kill icons from everywhere?
[01:24] <Xcell> shadow98-  just go to their site and get them..  but do not forget to uninstall what you have before you install the new ones
[01:24] <nhasian_> KenBW2, you can re-enable the menu icons.
[01:24] <MightyTweek> cecilia, sorry, i meant apt-get --reinstall python-gtk2
[01:24] <ptc> In KDE, the application khotkeys offers a feature so I can bind a key shortcut to type out a string (e.g: when I press Win+H it types out "http://") ...Is there any similar application in Gnome?
[01:24] <KenBW2> nhandler: already have
[01:24] <sandipraj> yep.. tried that .. but it wont find the other computer .. i do know the other computer's ip address.. is there a way to type the ip address to open the shares ?
[01:24] <Xcell> 190.42 works fabulous
[01:24] <lockd> KenBW2: you can just remove the envelope easy enough
[01:24] <ctmjr> lockd, you do understand what debian sid is and that it is not ubuntu
[01:24] <erUSUL> sandipraj: Places>Connect to Server
[01:24] <KenBW2> lockd: it was gone hours ago
[01:24] <MrYuk> I am having trouble recovering my home directory from a previous install because I don't have read permissions, how can I access the files?
[01:24] <fokuslee302> erUSUL, yeah i am always bad at planning, should have put fat32 for the shared drive too
[01:25] <fokuslee302> oh well maybe i just back up everthing and do reinstall
[01:25] <lockd> ctmjr: I understand that Karmic removed some files from Sid's packages
[01:25] <ASrock> im configuring kubuntu-desktop on my computer, what do i want the default display manager to be, gdm or kdm?
[01:25] <ptc> does ANYONE use keyboard shortcuts in Gnome that type out a string? ...ANYONE???
[01:25] <erUSUL> fokuslee302: ntfs works just fine you d not need a special sharing partition
[01:25] <enull> hi
[01:25] <adaptr> heh, mine exits with error 127
[01:25] <nhasian_> ptc, yes i do
[01:25] <ptc> nhasian: which application do you use for that?
[01:25] <cecilia> then i asked apt-get --reinstall install python-gtk2
[01:25] <nhasian_> ptc, the program you want is called autokey there is a ppa for that.
[01:25] <cecilia> ok
[01:26] <KenBW2> lockd: is it worth me trying to install sid's gnome-applets?
[01:26] <enull> im new in this IRC channel. I am having problem starting my karmick koala.is there anyone who is interested to help me out ?
[01:26] <lockd> KenBW2: probably not
[01:26] <erUSUL> !ask | enull
[01:26] <queso_> I remember a game I played when I first used linux years ago. You were a "ball" and had to hit other balls against the side of the screen to destroy them. Anyone remember the name of that game?
[01:26] <th1> KenBW2, you're better off getting the source for gnome-applets and building it with different configure options
[01:26] <ptc> nhasian: what's a "ppa" i couldn't find it with apt-get
[01:26] <cecilia> oops... it looks like it has found some kind of error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/305530/
[01:26] <mickster04> !ot| queso_
[01:26] <fokuslee302> erUSUL, oh your right, last time i used it ntfs-3g was still experimental its been a while
[01:26] <KenBW2> lockd: erm, sudo apt-get install pulseaudio then :(
[01:26] <sandipraj> erusul - when typing in the computer name for the server.. should i use back slack .. like how we use in windows ?
[01:27] <lockd> KenBW2: do you really need the GNOME-blessed applet?
[01:27] <Animagladius> Help :O I just did the distribution-upgrade to 9.10. I'm running Ubuntu 9.10 with xfce. Now everytime someone goes online/offline on Pidgin and everytime I change the volume, I get this annoying popup that says "xx%" or "$user is online" ... Any way to disable that? :(
[01:27] <enull> !ask having problem starting karmic koala. UNable to mount filesystem
[01:27] <erUSUL> sandipraj: yes afaik but i do not use that much
[01:27] <ptc> nhasian_: what's a "ppa" i couldn't find it with apt-get
[01:27] <ctmjr> lockd, are you doing this or telling someone to do it
[01:27] <shadow98> xcell: it won't le tme install while im running X.  How do i kill X and get to command line only
[01:27] <zash> ptc: personal package archive
[01:27] <th1> Animagladius, inside pidgin config you can disable it
[01:27] <erUSUL> Animagladius: #xubuntu
[01:27] <KenBW2> lockd: never thought about alternatives
[01:27] <zash> ptc: it's a repository
[01:27] <nhasian_> ptc well once you add the ppa to your sources, then you can use apt-get
[01:28] <erUSUL> !ppa
[01:28] <Xcell> shadow98-  did you first uninstall what you had first?
[01:28] <lockd> KenBW2: ctmjr: I have DONE this, and am only saying what /I/ have done to solve the problem
[01:28] <shadow98> xcell: yes I did..
[01:28] <ptc> !ppa
[01:28] <Xcell> ok hang on.. im going to type some instructions
[01:28] <Animagladius> th1: I wish I could. But it's not about Pidgin. :/ As I said, it even pops up when I change the volume.
[01:28] <ASrock> are there any good online multiplayer games for linux?
[01:28] <Guildenstern> I#m a bit sad. In 9.04 my noteboock hardware (espacially the wlan stuff) was detected right. I need acerhk. This time 9.10 did not recognize it... or could is this because I installed 9.10 without internet connection?
[01:28] <erUSUL> ptc: there is no need to call the factoid twice... irc clients have scroll
[01:29] <Ahmuck> do i need apturl?
[01:29] <lockd> but I was mistaken that Debian applets contained the volume control. that was a package I built by hand
[01:29] <Animagladius> erUSUL: Sorry, I didn't know that also belongs to #xubuntu just because I moved from Gnome to xfce. Thanks, I'll ask over there.
[01:29] <erUSUL> ASrock: what type? rts? fps?
[01:29] <Ahmuck> ASrock: yes
[01:29] <herrgott073> after updating to 9.10 i can no longer connect with world of warcraft.  the breaking news will load but when i try to login it instantly says "disconnected from server."  any ideas?  wow works fine on my wifes vista laptop
[01:29] <KenBW2> lockd: so my options are: (1) live with PA (2) try installing gnome-panels from source or (3) removing PA and using a non-gnome volume applet?
[01:30] <Smoke1> im having issues with my SoundBox sound card im runnin a gateway laptop and well the buttons for the volume work ex. turnin up and down the volume but no sound comes out......anyone have any ideas it would be greatly appreciated plz msg me tysvm in advance
[01:30] <Xcell> shadow98-  ctl+atl+f4  then   sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop      then  sudo sh ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86-190.42-pkg1.run      shadow  make sure the download is in your home folder before doing this
[01:30] <lockd> KenBW2: I used to use "volwheel" but I don't really like it because it's slow. but it works
[01:30] <Clerm> I installed 9.10 and have a problem: I can't get my computer to keep running when the lid is closed (and my laptop is connected to an external dispplay). In the power management options, the only settings available are: blank screen; Suspend; Hibernate; Shut down. There is no "Do Nothing" option. Any idea what I could do?
[01:30] <enull> !ask requesting help: unable to start karmic koala. error message unable to mount certain file system
[01:30] <ptc> hmm i found this one
[01:31] <Guildenstern> my fault.. it's wlan is working now...
[01:31] <sven_oostenbrink> on ubuntu-server, I just did sudo aptitude dist-upgrade, and a cat /etc/issue still shows 9.04. How to update to 9.10?
[01:31] <shadow98> xcell: well here goes nothing
[01:31] <Xcell> youll do fine
[01:31] <Snares> ubottu: Come on don't ever call yourself stupid! Think positively!
[01:31] <ptc> nhasian_: i have this one here https://launchpad.net/~cdekter/+archive/ppa but if you notice on #5 it says "add the line" but they don't specify one
[01:32] <erUSUL> !upgrade | sven_oostenbrink
[01:32] <ptc> nhasian_: nevermind
[01:32] <mado> fede1, --- drag and drop doesn't work
[01:32] <Snares> Can anyone here play flash with sound? I have Ubuntu 9.10 amd64 and flash works fine, but there is no sound.
[01:32] <sven_oostenbrink> erUSUL: thanks
[01:32] <lockd> KenBW2: or use a distro that supports not using pulse
[01:32] <enull> requesting help: unable to start karmic koala. error message unable to mount certain file system
[01:32] <Xcell> mado-  i once instructed you the easy way
[01:32] <KenBW2> lockd: believe me, that's becoming tempting what woth where Ubuntu's going
[01:32] <mado> Xcell, ?
[01:32] <fede1> mado: you do drag&drop on the icons tabs?
[01:33] <cecilia> then it said: run sudo dpkg --configure -a to fix the problem when i repeated the command
[01:33] <sandipraj> Yo erusul .. thanks mate.
[01:33] <Xcell> mado-  the icon theme?
[01:33] <cecilia> so...
[01:33] <nhasian_> ptc, with karmic its easy.  ppa:cdekter/ppa  to your system's Software Sources
[01:33] <fede1> mado: you must drag & drop on the main window
[01:33] <mado> Xcell, yeah ... sorry ... i may have missed your line due to tiredness
[01:33] <Snares> Oh, and does anyone have a problem where if they minimize firefox, it kind of hiccups when they click to open it back up?
[01:33] <KenBW2> lockd: so for me to use option (3) i uninstall PA, install volwheel and add it to the panel and i'm done?
[01:33] <erUSUL> sandipraj: no problem;
[01:33] <Clerm> I can't get my computer to keep running when the lid is closed (and my laptop is connected to an external display). In the power management options, the only settings available are: blank screen; Suspend; Hibernate; Shut down. There is no "Do Nothing" option. Any idea what I could do?
[01:34] <cecilia> http://paste.ubuntu.com/305532/
[01:34] <mado> Xcell, can you write it again? ...
[01:34] <lockd> KenBW2: volwheel is not a panel applet
[01:34] <mado> fede1, hmm ... let's see
[01:34] <lockd> KenBW2: it sits in system notification area
[01:34] <Xcell> fede1-  said it right.. but for you the easier way is to go to themes in appearances and click install and migtate to your downloaded theme
[01:34] <KenBW2> lockd: oh, either way
[01:34] <Snares> lockd: When you minimize firefox, does it hesitate a little before it comes back up?
[01:34] <Snares> lockd: Like maybe 700-800ms?
[01:35] <lockd> Snares: no, I'm also not running the eye candy window manager Compiz
[01:35] <KenBW2> lockd: so uninstall PA and install volwheel?
[01:35] <Xcell> mado-  once it installs.. go to customize and go to icons and click what your desire is.. have fun.
[01:35] <Snares> lockd: Let me turn that off and see if it helps :D
[01:36] <resno> the touch pad on my laptop stopped working when i upgraded
[01:36] <Snares> lockd: Nope didn't help. Are you on amd64?
[01:36] <lockd> KenBW2: you can only decide. you might not get any support without PulseAudio
[01:37] <lockd> Snares: yes, I am
[01:37] <KenBW2> lockd: yea ive decided - i'm just asking if that's the procedure
[01:37] <lockd> KenBW2: for now it is. it won't get any easier
[01:37] <WACOMalt> hi ho. I am at work on a centos machine, without root access. And there is no flash! what am I to do?
[01:38] <KenBW2> lockd: yea i guessed - hopefully PA will get better
[01:38] <sinthetek> can someone help me affirm whether dma is properly enabled on my via ide?
[01:38] <KenBW2> lockd: maybe i'm starting to outgrow Ubuntu
[01:38] <bazhang> WACOMalt, perhaps #centos can help
[01:38] <WACOMalt> I tried
[01:38] <WACOMalt> they mostly ignore :P
[01:38] <WACOMalt> I came here because you guys are actually helpful
[01:38] <bazhang> WACOMalt, its offtopic here; try ##linux
[01:38] <Smoke1> im having issues with my SoundBox sound card im runnin a gateway laptop and well the buttons for the volume work ex. turnin up and down the volume but no sound comes out......anyone have any ideas it would be greatly appreciated plz msg me tysvm in advance
[01:39] <cecilia> MightyTweek?
[01:39] <sinthetek> according to my googling, it should be using via-ide or pata-via but modprobe indicates neither driver exists (as a module anyway)
[01:39] <WACOMalt> mmk
[01:39] <lockd> KenBW2: well if you need help in installing a singular package, maybe not. remember, that's something that's nearly "taboo"
[01:39] <meowpup> i got problems with my sound card
[01:39] <KenBW2> lockd: installing a deb?
[01:39] <sinthetek> hdparm -d /dev/sda just errors with: inappropriate ioctl for this device
[01:39] <lockd> KenBW2: installing something from a different distro
[01:39] <erUSUL> sinthetek: check dmesg msgs regarding the disk/controller
[01:40] <resno> looking for help with non-working touchpad
[01:40] <KenBW2> lockd: how is that taboo if it works
[01:40] <resno> on a dell latitude d810
[01:40] <sinthetek> erUSUL dmesg says nothing of ide, sata or dma
[01:40] <cecilia> I thank you for trying to help me, but i must go
[01:40] <MightyTweek> cecilia, that's a strange error... any idea about anything you may have done that would have started these problems?
[01:40] <meowpup> anyone know about ubuntu sound problems
[01:40] <cecilia> well
[01:40] <KenBW2> lockd: i thought that was what linux is all about - having the freedom to make it what you want (and to really screw it up in the process)
[01:40] <cecilia> typed yesterday apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:41] <sinthetek> or via*
[01:41] <mado> fede1, Xcell ... thank you!
[01:41] <Xcell> ok mado  y/w
[01:41] <meowpup> here what i get no sound. with cmeida sound card. it did work with fresh install
[01:41] <cecilia> and some new kernel was installed, as well as firefox and other updates, but it wasn't an upgrade really
[01:41] <sinthetek> i can tell you the controller if ya want though (thanks to lshw and lspci)
[01:41] <MusicalGenius> why do the hard drives on my desktop go away when i reboot?
[01:41] <cecilia> asome mistake ocurred and the process was apparently incomplete
[01:41] <fede1> mado: no worry
[01:41] <MusicalGenius> the hard drive icons
[01:42] <toyo|desk> is there a way to see what files are open on a drive so that you can close them and unmount it?
[01:42] <erUSUL> sinthetek: "dmesg | grep -i ata"
[01:42] <meowpup> everthing is set in alsamixer adn in volume mixer
[01:42] <cecilia> firefox was not behaving correctly as well, not launching, like update manager
[01:42] <KenBW2> lockd: dont suppose volwheel comes with a nice .deb does it?
[01:42] <Smoke1> im having issues with my SoundBox sound card im runnin a gateway laptop and well the buttons for the volume work ex. turnin up and down the volume but no sound comes out......anyone have any ideas it would be greatly appreciated plz msg me tysvm in advance
[01:42] <cecilia> but it's fixed now
[01:42] <toyo|desk> I keep trying to unmount my USB drive and it wont let me
[01:42] <sinthetek> erUSUL still nada
[01:42] <toyo|desk> says there are files open
[01:42] <toyo|desk> :/
[01:42] <wojtek> hello
[01:42] <shadow98> xcell: well everything is working so far...i have yet to reboot and see if settings save...i have a question do
[01:42] <lockd> KenBW2: nope, and it doesn't even come on CPAN
[01:42] <mage__> toyo|desk: lsof -n |grep /media
[01:42] <meowpup> here what i get no sound. with cmeida sound card. it did work with fresh install everthing is set in alsamixer adn in volume mixer
[01:42] <resno> how can i start the upgrade again?
[01:43] <erUSUL> sinthetek: you should see something like ata5.01: configured for UDMA/133
[01:43] <alid> The following packages have unmet dependencies: libxine1-ffmpeg: Depends: libxine1-bin (= 1.1.16.3-0ubuntu4) but 1.1.16.3-0ubuntu2~xine-vdpau~karmic~ppa6 is to be installed
[01:43] <Xcell> shadow98-  shoot
[01:43] <sinthetek> erUSUL tail /var/log/dmesg outputs stuff but grep indicates nothing related to hd for some reason
[01:43] <cecilia> I'm having some problems with this PC, it gets "stuck" and freezes out of nowhere and i need to restart by brute force
[01:43] <alid> Does anybody know how to fix this errorThe following packages have unmet dependencies: libxine1-ffmpeg: Depends: libxine1-bin (= 1.1.16.3-0ubuntu4) but 1.1.16.3-0ubuntu2~xine-vdpau~karmic~ppa6 is to be installed
[01:43] <MusicalGenius> my music folder is in a separate hard drive and i have to open that hard drive for the files to appear in rhythmbox
[01:43] <toyo|desk> mage__, it didnt show anything when I ran that command
[01:43] <shadow98> xcell: do you know of an application that will allow you to quickly snap windows to the second monitor
[01:43] <cecilia> i have done it like 10 times since yesterday, it was necessary...and it's getting worse
[01:43] <wojtek> I've just installed my kubuntu and have aproblem with grub: error 15 - don't have dual boot, I've got only kubuntu on my hdd
[01:43] <mage__> toyo|desk: where is the card mounted?
[01:43] <wojtek> can anyone help me?
[01:43] <MightyTweek> cecilia, try apt-get --reinstall install python-support
[01:43] <Xcell> shadow98-  not off hand
[01:43] <mage__> something should show up if its not going to let you umount :-/
[01:43] <cecilia> ok
[01:43] <toyo|desk> mage__, its /media/disk
[01:44] <Trizicus> in synaptic how can I install 32 bit apps instead of the 64 bit equiv?
[01:44] <jorrit> I can't believe it. After three(!) updates Ubuntu still has missing sound. It cannot even *find* my soundcard anymore
[01:44] <shadow98> xcell: for example in windows i used multimon taskbar which allowed me to hit ctrl-alt-left and right to quickly send apps from one monitor to the next
[01:44] <knoppies> are there better drivers for geforce cards? or radeon ones?
[01:44] <Xcell> shadow98-  not sure..
[01:44] <erUSUL> !ati | knoppies
[01:44] <sinthetek> dmsg | grep ide, ata, dma, sd, via, dma and disk output nothing
[01:44] <obiwan_> please how's that possible that /lusers says ~4300 clients and 0 servers and ~25k users? it's imposible that there's only 4300 people here, it's just impossible
[01:44] <Xcell> toyo|desk-  i installed mountmanager for stuff like that.. but thats me
[01:45] <knoppies> thanks erUSUL
[01:45] <sinthetek> (with -i, fyi)
[01:45] <cecilia> MightyTweek, look: http://paste.ubuntu.com/305535/
[01:45] <merma> how can I add the TWiT podcast with gpodder? I cant find a usable link :/
[01:45] <fulat2k> hi folks, i'm running 8.10.  do i need to upgrade to 9.04 before going to 9.10?
[01:45] <erUSUL> sinthetek: that's very weird but maybe your dmesg got filled with some other msgs..
[01:45] <lstarnes> obiwan_: that's 4300 users on your server and 25k on the network as a whole
[01:45] <lstarnes> fulat2k: yes
[01:45] <Snares> Is there a way to install all the dependencies for a package, but not the package itself?
[01:45] <erUSUL> sinthetek: "grep -i ata /var/log/messages"
[01:45] <nick125> fulat2k: Either that or backup/reinstall
[01:46] <tomoyuki28jp> How can I start network-manager after manually killing it?
[01:46] <fulat2k> lstarnes: ok cool.
[01:46] <obiwan_> ok ehehe thanks lstarnes !
[01:46] <fulat2k> nick125: i'll take the upgrade route ;P
[01:46] <bj0> tomoyuki28jp, nm-applet i think
[01:46] <obiwan_> lstarnes: and why there are 0 servers? it's impossible a server with 0 servers running :$
[01:46] <sinthetek> erUSUL nada
[01:46] <JeffPB> Question:  I've tried UNR on my HP mini via the bootable flash drive.  The wi fi does not seem to be working, though the normally HP MIE OS finds connections with ease.  Has anyone else tried UNR 9.10 with an HP mini 110?
[01:46] <lstarnes> obiwan_: add the number of hidden users to the shown number for the total
[01:46] <boscop> how does ubuntu choose which apps to uninstall with apt-get autoremove?? it wants to uninstall okular and latex, although I use them very often!!!
[01:46] <erUSUL> sinthetek: o.0! that is impossible...
[01:46] <lstarnes> obiwan_: this network hides the actual number of servers for security reasons
[01:47] <IdleOne> obiwan_: that info may be disabled by the server
[01:47] <sshc> wojtek: if you haven't fix grub error 15 already, I made the same mistake you did
[01:47] <bj0> anyone seen the problem where X freezes randomly not long after the desktop finishes loading (this is on the liveCD)
[01:47] <IndyGunFreak> bj0, no
[01:47] <jorrit> Just upgraded from Ubuntu 9.04 to Ubuntu 9.10 (both 64 bit) and my sound has stopped working. I have an Intel-HD Audio controller as part of the ICH10 chipset. aplay -l does not even show soundcards
[01:47] <erUSUL> boscop: if they where isntalled as dependencies or sugeestions for a package that was later removed apt will try to autoremove them
[01:47] <bj0> well I've got it :b
[01:47] <sinthetek> erUSUL oh yeah, i forgot kern.log is full of 'unable to turn cooling device 'off'' errors
[01:47] <bj0> and a few other people using laptops seem to have it too
[01:47] <sinthetek> err
[01:47] <sinthetek> s/off/on
[01:48] <sshc> wojtek: when you were configuring it, you should have had a series of selections (or one)
[01:48] <boscop> erUSUL: how can I tell it which ones to keep?
[01:48] <IndyGunFreak> bj0: so use the alternate install cd
[01:48] <IndyGunFreak> thats what its for
[01:48] <wojtek> sshc: namely? what mistake you did?
[01:48] <erUSUL> sinthetek: so you logs are being spamed so any usefull msg is lost??
[01:48] <sshc> wojtek: if you read the text that preceded it carefully, you should have selected all of them or one
[01:48] <sinthetek> i don't remember how to disable that with jaunty, heh. it used to just be modprobe -r fan :\
[01:48] <tomoyuki28jp> bj0: thanks, but it wasn't the one I am looking for.
[01:48] <bj0> IndyGunFreak, if the livecd freezes, why wouldn't the fully installed version freeze?
[01:48] <KiRiLoS> Hello,i get the error:"Could not change permissions to <file>" when i try to copy files from a NTFS driver to another using dolphin.The one driver is just an external hdd and the other is a partition mounted to my system(I just mounted it a few minutes ago).I am using kubuntu 9.10,Thanks
[01:48] <cambazz> hello. how can i see which rc services are on at boot
[01:48] <IndyGunFreak> sigh..
[01:48] <cambazz> and how can i add remove from rc.d
[01:48] <erUSUL> boscop: i think that aptitude has a method to mark them as manually installed but i dunno how
[01:48] <sshc> wojtek: unfortunately, none of the choices are selected by default.
[01:48] <Haberdasher456> Does anybody know why gnome system monitor might show 3.1 instead of a full 4 gig of ram? (OS = Ubuntu 9.10 amd64)
[01:49] <sshc> wojtek: you should have pressd spacebar to select the device
[01:49] <sinthetek> erUSUL some of them, to some degree
[01:49] <MightyTweek> cecilia, I think maybe try an aptitude clean, then apt-get --reinstall install python-support again
[01:49] <carter> Hi Ilost my icons for controling sound and others on new release 9.10 can someone help me with this?
[01:49] <sinthetek> but yeah, crap
[01:49]  * sinthetek goes to look up how to disable that stupid thing again
[01:49] <jorrit> Haberdasher456, does your graphics card share memory with your main RAM?
[01:49] <KiRiLoS> Hello,i get the error:"Could not change permissions to <file>" when i try to copy files from a NTFS driver to another using dolphin.The one driver is just an external hdd and the other is a partition mounted to my system(I just mounted it a few minutes ago).I am using kubuntu 9.10,Thanks
[01:49] <sshc> wojtek: I solved it by burning supergrub, and booting into my normal installation
[01:49] <ptc> nhasian_: thanks i got it all figured out :)
[01:49] <sshc> wojtek: from there, I did "apt-get purge grub-pc && apt-get install grub-pc"
[01:49] <wojtek> sshc what's the command for private msgs?
[01:50] <fede1> carter: the icon for control the sounds is still there on the up right
[01:50] <cecilia> ok
[01:50] <Haberdasher456> jorrit, the graphics card is not built into the motherboard so i'd imagine not
[01:50] <zeenix> hi
[01:50] <TheCheeze|away> are there any volume control apps karmic can use besides pulse to have a volume popup when i adjust it?
[01:50] <sshc> wojtek: /msg sshc foo
[01:50] <TheCheeze|away> makes working with my remote when using as a media center much more convenient
[01:50] <sshc> wojtek: or /query sshc to open the message screen
[01:50] <MightyTweek> cecilia, I'll warn you though, it's starting to sound like things got messed up when you tried to upgrade, you may need to reinstall
[01:50] <bj0> IndyGunFreak, what? isn't the point of the livecd to see if it works on your hardware? obviously something didn't work
[01:50] <obiwan_> please, anybody knows about scripting? i need a simple script, just to say hello $nick and bye $nick when it reads a hello, hi, greetings or something like that and bye, goodbye, cya, or sth like that from a client , i'm getting my wrists burnt as i say hello and bye everyday to everybody
[01:50]  * zeenix just upgraded to karmic and was only able to boot to his normal gnome session using recovery mode
[01:51] <cecilia> reinstall what?
[01:51] <erUSUL> sinthetek: sudo hdparm -I /dev/sdx
[01:51] <MightyTweek> cecilia, reinstall ubuntu
[01:51] <sshc> wojtek: but can we discuss this in #ubuntu in case it helps anybody else?
[01:51] <cecilia> oh
[01:51] <carter> fede1 I tried to find them but it's not working?
[01:51] <cecilia> how can i do this?
[01:51] <resno> just upgraded, sound and touchpad not working. what cani do?
[01:51] <sshc> wojtek: you need to reinstall grub after booting into your normal installation, and not in a live session
[01:52] <KiRiLoS> Hello,i get the error:"Could not change permissions to <file>" when i try to copy files from a NTFS driver to another using dolphin.The one driver is just an external hdd and the other is a partition mounted to my system(I just mounted it a few minutes ago).I am using kubuntu 9.10,Thanks
[01:52] <marcelcohrs> ifconfig doesnt display the gateway etc
[01:52] <fede1> carter: mine is working.  what type of error you get?
[01:52] <erUSUL> marcelcohrs: route displays the routing table
[01:52] <marcelcohrs> thx
[01:53] <cecilia> MightyTwweek, the same error was accused: http://paste.ubuntu.com/305542/
[01:53] <ProfOak> Hey guys, can you use desktop share with skype on ubuntu 9.10?
[01:53] <sshc> wojtek: after you boot into your normal ubuntu installation and not in a live session, open a terminal and "apt-get purge grub-pc (or grub2) && apt-get purge grub-pc".  You can burn supergrub to boot
[01:53] <godstar> Jaunty Jackalope is not upgrading to Karmic Koala. My update manager is turning gray. Any suggestions?
[01:54] <marcelcohrs> ho do i start my apache server?
[01:54] <d9500> KiRiLoS: when you opened dolphin, did you do so by clicking on file manager in the kickoff menu, or by running kdesudo dolphin in terminal?
[01:54] <scunizi> marcelcohrs: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[01:54] <resno> marcelcohrs: /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[01:54] <lorenzo> hi, i fresh installed karmic, i cant find my "open as root" option in my right click menu in nautilus. how do i get it back please? thanks
[01:54] <Take0n> /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[01:54] <resno> marcelcohrs: add the sudo
[01:54] <KiRiLoS> d9500, i just opened it from the kickoff menu
[01:55] <resno> the upgrade ruined my install
[01:55] <marcelcohrs> thanks guys
[01:55] <PokeyOats> Ubuntu upgrades tend to do that...
[01:55] <KiRiLoS> d9500, i am pretty sure i did something wrong with mounting the NTFS partition :P
[01:55] <Take0n> resno, from 9.04 to 9.10?
[01:55] <resno> Take0n: yep
[01:55] <TheCheeze|away> are there any volume control apps karmic can use besides pulse to have a volume notify when i adjust it?
[01:55] <ner0x> 9.10, how can I install lighttpd?
[01:55] <Take0n> okay.. I'll stay with 9.04 for a while then :p
[01:55] <resno> Take0n: no 9.08
[01:56] <zash> ner0x: with sudo apt-get install
[01:56] <d9500> KiRiLoS: i once ran across a similar problem in an ubuntu live session copying files to a flash drive. it would let me copy the files but not paste them. which ntfs partition do you think you mounted wrong?
[01:56] <Take0n> 9.08?
[01:56] <gerzel> Where do I install fonts for Ubuntu?
[01:56] <resno> Take0n: 9.04 was the last version right?
[01:56] <fede1> lorenzo:   vai qui ti spiega:  http://forums.opensuse.org/archives/sf-archives/archives-tips-tricks-tweaks/342886-open-root-right-click-gnome.html
[01:56] <gerzel> Folder path?
[01:56] <Take0n> yeap
[01:56] <ner0x> zash, is it in the repo?
[01:56] <Take0n> 9.10 the new one
[01:56] <resno> Take0n: yea thats where i came from
[01:56] <carter> fed1 you can't find sound speaker or anything???
[01:56] <PokeyOats> waaaah.. VMWare scrolls better than Virtual box, sigh....
[01:56] <lorenzo> fede1, grazie
[01:56] <zash> ner0x: it is in hardy at least
[01:56] <resno> Take0n: touch pad stopped working on laptop and sounds gone... etc
[01:56] <fede1> lorenzo: nulla!
[01:56] <scunizi> PokeyOats: what do you mean?
[01:57] <ner0x> zash: Any idea on how to add them? I just got an linode and it's choices are small.
[01:57] <kostkon> gerzel, 9.10?
[01:57] <gerzel> yes
[01:57] <resno> is alsamixer no longer being used?
[01:57] <zash> ner0x: sudo apt-get install lighttpd
[01:57] <KiRiLoS> d9500, the partition that is permanent on my system.Not the external drive.that's the target folder for the files i wanna copy
[01:57] <scunizi> PokeyOats: did you install the guest additions in vbox?
[01:57] <icehawk78> If a computer that has a fresh install of 9.04 will not play anything from the speakers, but a live CD of 9.10 does play sounds, is there something in particular I should be looking for?
[01:57] <kostkon> gerzel, just double click on them and you will have the option to install them
[01:57] <Take0n> resno, I had the same problem years ago when I upgraded from 7.10 to 8.04.. so from then I either do afresh install or wait a month or so :P problems usually get solved..
[01:57] <PokeyOats> In pidgin there is smooth scrolling for the irc room - using VMWare Workstation the scrolling is silky smooth, but sound wasn't working, so someone tells me to "Use Virtual box" - I swear, Limnux users these days, it's all about using something else rather than solving the problem.
[01:58] <ppotter> Hi all
[01:58] <peepsalot> is there an application for configuring/testing joysticks/racing wheels?
[01:58] <d9500> KiRiLoS: you just mounted it by clicking on it then entering your password when prompted, then?
[01:58] <ppotter> Does anybody know where you can get a working deb of rapache?
[01:58] <PokeyOats> Anyway, I installed Virtual box and now the scrolling when the page fills is really jumpy - I know I'm a crybaby...
[01:58] <resno> Take0n: last upgrade went smoothly, so i pushed forward..
[01:58] <fede1> peepsalot: try with xev
[01:58] <Turl> peepsalot: a game? :)
[01:58] <Theham> How do i add windows 7 to grub list?
[01:58] <MightyTweek> cecilia, sorry, I'm running out of things to try
[01:58] <KiRiLoS> d9500, no it's a partition of my internal drive,i mounted it from /etc/fstab
[01:58] <ppotter> The standard deposit one locks up.
[01:58] <resno> Take0n: should i just wait or  reinstall?
[01:58] <coordinador> hi
[01:58] <_GRUB_> how's 9.10 working for everyone?
[01:58] <coordinador> i have a problem
[01:58] <Turl> Theham: update-grub should add it
[01:58] <Theham> When i open the grub menu list, there's nothing in it
[01:58] <cecilia> ok
[01:58] <KiRiLoS> d9500, i must have given wrong permissions or something.
[01:59] <ppotter> 9.10 working well here
[01:59] <Take0n> resno, I am pretty sure your problems have solutions :)
[01:59] <resno> !ask coordinador
[01:59] <TheCheeze|away> how can i make karmic use the notify-OSD for volume like jaunty did without using pulseaudio?
[01:59] <coordinador> i have webcam in /dev/ but none program recognizes it
[01:59] <resno> !ask | coordinador
[01:59] <Turl> coordinador: tried cheese?
[01:59] <lorenzo> fede1, bastava installare rpm, non ricordavo fosse un'estensione a parte! :)
[01:59] <wojtek> while issueing update-grub I get "Cannot find list of partitions" - what's the problem?
[01:59] <scunizi> PokeyOats: well.. Did you install the guest additions?  That's what you need to fix the jumpyness.. it's part of vbox and listed in their install instructions
[01:59] <resno> Take0n: yea. but i am sure how to get them fixed..
[01:59] <cecilia> tell me, can i install 9.10 ubuntu from a live cd and solve these problems?
[01:59] <quiescens> _GRUB_: the problem is you're asking that in the support channel
[01:59] <peepsalot> fede1, i don't see xev in the repo
[01:59] <PokeyOats> I most certainly did install guest additions - everything is unusable without.
[01:59] <mattgyver> Can you reposition the pidgin notifications (User Logged in, IM text) mine is about 2 inches down the screen which... just looks bad
[01:59] <coordinador> sorry resno, well that is my problem i have a webcam in /dev/v4l...  but my programs doesnt recognize it
[01:59] <Take0n> besides sound and mousepad any mroe probs?
[02:00] <cecilia> i have have lots of problems with 9.04
[02:00] <jmspeex> Anyone knows how to configure a SecurID-based VPN in Ubuntu?
[02:00] <fede1> lorenzo: be l'importante e che funziona :)
[02:00] <_GRUB_> quiescens: lol touché
[02:00] <PokeyOats> Obviously, I installed VM tools on my VMWare 9.10 as well - vmtools appears to handle video better than VBOX's guest additions..
[02:00] <ppotter> Does there exist a good GUI for Apache?
[02:00] <fede1> peepsalot: try to run from the terminal...xev is installed by default
[02:00] <scunizi> PokeyOats: I've used both vmware and vbox.. 2 yrs with vmware and going on 2 with vbox.. I have no issues with vbox on 3 machines.. with linux host or windows host.
[02:00] <Turl> ppotter: webmin, ispanel?
[02:00] <icehawk78> ppotter: vi?
[02:00] <Hellow> Well, this is slightly large.
[02:00] <Haberdasher456> jorrit, the graphics card is not built into the motherboard so i'd imagine not
[02:01] <TheCheeze|away> is there a way to see a list of apps you recently removed?
[02:01] <ppotter> Well, just after something simple to setup and use.
[02:01] <fede1> peepsalot: it will maybe good for you for test if the joystick work
[02:01] <PokeyOats> scunizi - ummm, my problem is a pedanticism, not necessarily an issue...
[02:01] <peepsalot> fede1, it does not respond to any joystick inputs
[02:01] <zeenix> anyone else having issues with encrypted filesystem in karmic?
[02:01] <d9500> KiRiLoS: sounds like it, but alas, you're getting into more technical territory than i'm used to. i still have to look up the steps to copy into terminal when i need to mount a partition from the terminal, much less using fstab. still a relative newbie.
[02:01] <jorrit> Haberdasher456, Yes, I ve read that. In that case I don
[02:02] <Turl> zeenix: release notes said sth about that, go read them
[02:02] <jorrit> Haberdasher456, Yes, I ve read that. In that case I don't know what would cause this memory gap
[02:02] <Theham> Turl, it didnt work =( it ask me to generate a menu.lst
[02:02] <Wesley__> Ah, the good old Ubuntu channel.
[02:02] <icehawk78> If a computer that has a fresh install of 9.04 will not play anything from the speakers, but a live CD of 9.10 does play sounds, is there something in particular I should be looking for?
[02:02] <ppotter> Rapache looks really good but locks up.
[02:02] <ptc> nhasian_: still around?
[02:02] <obiwan_> please, anybody knows about scripting? i need a simple script, just to say hello $nick and bye $nick when it reads a hello, hi, greetings or something like that and bye, goodbye, cya, or sth like that from a client , i'm getting my wrists burnt as i say hello and bye everyday to everybody
[02:02] <D3RGPS31> i'm having issues with my ati r hd 4850 graphics card; after installing the supported drivers, then reboot, the screen goes black and i freeze
[02:02] <Turl> icehawk78: newer alsa for sure
[02:02] <kostkon> TheCheeze|away, open synaptic and then File → history
[02:02] <coordinador> help please, my cam appears in /dev/video0 but my progrmas doesnt recognize it
[02:02] <cecilia> MightyTweek, i really must be going,,, thanks a lot for trying to help
[02:02] <godstar1> icehawk78: www.medibuntu.org
[02:02] <nhasian_> ptc, yes
[02:03] <MightyTweek> cecilia, no problem, sorry I couldn't be more help
[02:03] <KiRiLoS> d9500, ok then keep up!
[02:03] <KiRiLoS> Hello,i get the error:"Could not change permissions to <file>" when i try to copy files from a NTFS driver to another using dolphin.The one driver is just an external hdd and the other is a partition mounted to my system(I just mounted it a few minutes ago).I am using kubuntu 9.10,Thanks
[02:03] <fede1> peepsalot: so i will not be helpfully for you because i only know xev
[02:03] <icehawk78> Turl: Is that something I can just upgrade?
[02:03] <bostrt> hi, i have a server with ubuntu 8.10, is there any way (without reinstalling) to update to the current release
[02:03] <cecilia> that's alright... thanks! :)
[02:03] <green_peppers> hello. looking in /tmp procures an entry labeled "ssh-cF*****" with an anent.*** file inside. what is this? i don't believe i'm using ssh at the moment. help? thanks in advance
[02:03] <piero> How can I set a password to grub?
[02:03] <piero> grub2!
[02:04] <nhasian_> piero, not supported yet in grub2
[02:04] <green_peppers> *agent.*** file inside
[02:04] <Take0n> KiRiLoS, kapou se ksero..
[02:04] <TheCheeze|away> kostkon, thank you
[02:05] <KiRiLoS> Take0n, alh8eia? :P
[02:05] <Take0n> o nai :P
[02:05] <fede1> i have upgraded to karmic from jaunty...but...is it possible that i have the same grub and not grub2? because i see grub 1.5.*
[02:05] <D3RGPS31> i get a blank screen then freeze after the black/white splash; Ubuntu 9.10; ATI R HD 4850
[02:05] <jorrit> Can't get sound to work after upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10. lspci shows audiocard. Alsamixer shows correct soundcard. aplay -l show "no soundcards found". I'm using hda-intel-sound on Ubuntu 9.10 64Bit
[02:05] <KiRiLoS> Hello,i get the error:"Could not change permissions to <file>" when i try to copy files from a NTFS driver to another using dolphin.The one driver is just an external hdd and the other is a partition mounted to my system(I just mounted it a few minutes ago).I am using kubuntu 9.10,Thanks
[02:05] <green_peppers> worst part is that I can also do "killall ssh-agent" and a process terminates
[02:05] <TheCheeze|away> is there a way to make karmic use the notify-OSD for volume like jaunty did without using pulseaudio?
[02:05] <kostkon> fede1, does it say 1.5something~beta?
[02:05] <hikerguy> hello all. Just wondering if anyone has had problems getting Amarok to work on Jaunty
[02:05] <Xcell> I must say: evolution mail does a great job.  i converted from thunderbird.
[02:05] <hikerguy> in particular, the audio
[02:06] <TheCheeze|away> i took out pulseaudio and now my volume doesnt notify and neither does my weather
[02:06] <kostkon> fede1, actually, since you upgraded you indeed still have grub1
[02:06] <coordinador> when i try to use webcam i got "cannot open device /dev/video0 for read write"
[02:06] <piero> Why grub2 is the default boot manager if it doesn't support a basic and very important feature like a password?
[02:06] <brian_> hello all
[02:06] <fede1> kostkon:  oh,and can i upgrade to grub2 without hassle? it is worth it?
[02:07] <Haberdasher456> Does anybody know why gnome system monitor might show 3.1 instead of a full 4 gig of ram? (OS = Ubuntu 9.10 amd64)
[02:07] <g8tor> hello all
[02:07] <D3RGPS31> i get a blank screen then freeze after the black/white splash; Ubuntu 9.10; ATI R HD 4850; supported proprietary drivers
[02:07] <analyser> Haberdasher456: using 32 bits version?
[02:07] <kostkon> fede1, not without hasle i suppose, but risky, yes
[02:07] <stlsaint> Haberdasher456: your not gonna utilize a full 4gb ram anyways
[02:07] <zash> Haberdasher456: 32bit?
[02:07] <Haberdasher456> no, amd 64
[02:07] <Theham> How do i add windows 7 to grub list??
[02:07] <MightyTweek> Haberdasher456, what's the output of "uname -a"?
[02:08] <francescofrances> # torrent
[02:08] <francescofrances> #torrent
[02:08] <francescofrances> boh
[02:08] <hikerguy> 1500+ spending their Friday night talking about Ubuntu. Gotta love it:-D
[02:08] <esmit> Hello friends, are you experiencing some bugs in GNOME-PANEL, like at system tab, no icons showing, or the WORST, it freezes with no reason and start consuming all computer resources (ram memory and cpu)
[02:08] <esmit> ?
[02:08] <francescofrances> c'è un canale dove si parla di torrent?
[02:08] <KiRiLoS> Hello,i get the error:"Could not change permissions to <file>" when i try to copy files from a NTFS driver to another using dolphin.The one driver is just an external hdd and the other is a partition mounted to my system(I just mounted it a few minutes ago).I am using kubuntu 9.10,Thanks
[02:08] <g8tor> how can I boot to a terminal? I would like to startx manually is that possible with Ubuntu?
[02:08] <coordinador> Hello, when i try to use webcam i got "cannot open device /dev/video0 for read write"
[02:08] <Guest90098> hello everyone i am new got a tech ??
[02:09] <nhasian_> Theham, sudo update-grub
[02:09] <green_peppers> is it typical for ssh-agent to run when logging into xserver? and is this a security liability in general?
[02:09] <Haberdasher456> MightyTweek, Linux HOST 2.6.31-14-generic #48-Ubuntu SMP Fri Oct 16 14:05:01 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[02:09] <godstar1> francescofrances: type /join #torrent
[02:09] <AussieGuy> how do I flush the DNS resolver cache on karmic? In other words the equivalent of the windows command ipconfig /flushdns
[02:09] <jorrit> francescofrances, Please move to a channel for Torrents, this channel is for Ubuntu only(!)
[02:09] <Guest90098> type /join
[02:09] <Haberdasher456> analyser, I've bought it, so I'd like to use it!
[02:09] <josh__> hello, how can I change my user ID? I have only one user account (other than root)
[02:09] <francescofrances> thanks
[02:09] <zash> Haberdasher456: output of `free` and /proc/meminfo
[02:10] <francescofrances> but there is only me
[02:10] <francescofrances> ...
[02:10] <Guest90098> I have a acer aspire m5630 can't change resolution?
[02:10] <jorrit> Haberdasher456, right you are! 4GB can be quite handy when doing heavy graphics, sound or video editing
[02:11] <godstar1> Guest90098: have you done a hardware scan to see if it saw available software?
[02:11] <zash> !pm | Haberdasher456
[02:11] <datta> i am trying to free up the computer a bit and want to know if in the synaptic, the resdiual configs are acutally needed
[02:11] <Theham> nhasian, thanks for replying, but it doesnt seem to be able to find win7. only generic and memtst was found
[02:11] <jorrit> francescofrances, Maybe there is a channel called bittorrent instead.
[02:11] <zash> !pastebin | Haberdasher456
[02:11] <datta> because i saw that freeing that would help a lot
[02:11] <resno> Take0n: no sure luck. ill keep scoping out the forums
[02:11] <coordinador> Hello, when i try to use webcam i got "cannot open device /dev/video0 for read write"
[02:11] <almoxarife> KiRiLoS: check permissions on the problem drive
[02:12] <corden> what the support channel of wubi?
[02:12] <datta> the computer is now running really slow
[02:12] <godstar1> coordinador: make sure you have permissions in users and groups.
[02:12] <camadas> Hi ppl, do u ppl know why my compiz doesn't save the configuracion ? I have to configure it every time i start a new session
[02:12] <KiRiLoS> almoxarife, i am not really familiar with permissions so could u help me out?
[02:12] <corden> i always get can error when loading loading via wubi
[02:12] <josh__> hello, can anyone help me change my uid? usermod -u # name doesn't work for me as I only have one user and don't know how to log in as root
[02:12] <nhasian_> Theham, hmm i remember reading in the karmic release notes that if windows wasnt picked up by grub2 that a sudo update-grub would fix it. where you using grub2?
[02:12] <fede1> francescofrances: prova su rtorrent
[02:12] <datta> i also tried the sudo autoremove in terminal which freed some of the space
[02:12] <corden> wudildr error
[02:13] <test34> josh__, cat /etc/passwd
[02:13] <corden> wubildr error
[02:13] <datta> but because i had kde installed before it has taken a big part of that in the residual part of the synaptec
[02:13] <test34> josh__, cat /etc/passwd | grep username
[02:13] <almoxarife> Killerkid: I am not familiar with dolphin but you should be able to click on the drive perhaps right click? look for permissions then
[02:13] <Hexbomber> Has anyone been having issues upgrading to 9.10? I've got 9.04 now, and when I try and update it says "Can Not Download Release Notes"... I have tried every single mirror for the sources, and nothing worked.
[02:13] <jorrit> Anyone with intel / realtek sound who has no sound after upgrading from ubuntu 9.04 to 9.10?
[02:13] <green_peppers> hello i have a question about ssh and ssh-agent, particularly when logging into an xserver. can anyone help me?
[02:13] <francescofrances> ciao!
[02:13] <camadas> ppl know why my compiz doesn't save the configuracion ? I have to configure it every time i start a new session
[02:14] <Morydd> since upgrading to 9.10, flash is not working in FF3.5 It is installed, but doesn't show up in FF's list of add-ons. Any suggestions?
[02:14] <fede1> josh__: you can use the user & group tools from system->administration
[02:14] <esmit> Hello friends, are you experiencing some bugs in GNOME-PANEL, like at system tab, no icons showing, or the WORST, it freezes with no reason and start consuming all computer resources (ram memory and cpu)?????
[02:14] <Theham> Theham, i have followed this guide to reinstall grub after installing windows 7 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[02:14] <josh__> test34: I;ve tried changing it that way, it's also greyed out in system > users and groups as I'm logged in
[02:14] <Haberdasher456> zash, What you requested... http://paste.ubuntu.com/305550/
[02:14] <Theham> nhasian_, i have followed this guide to reinstall grub after installing windows 7 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[02:14] <godstar1> Morydd: you may want to go into Synaptic and mark for reinstallation flash non-free and FF plus all the FF trimmings.
[02:14] <AussieGuy> Im getting DNS problems with karmic, both from "run ubuntu without modifying my machine" and the new install itself. Xchat thinks irc.freenode.org is 1.1.1.1 Mozilla wont open google (I beleive it has a similar problem). Typing in the correct IP works, but anyone have any idea how to fix the problem?
[02:15] <test34> josh__, oop sorry I thought you wanted to know oyour user_id
[02:15] <datta> please help i need help to keep this clean
[02:15] <corden> any wubi user?
[02:15] <josh__> test34:  nope :P, want to change it to 501 so I can write to a hfs+ partition
[02:15] <fede1> josh__: in user&groups tools,you must click in the lower icon with the graphics of a key and type your root password
[02:15] <Take0n> resno, I wish you all luck buddy
[02:15] <datta> please help me with cleaning up the system hasn't anyone done that before?
[02:15] <josh__> fede1: umm hmm, did that. as I am loggen in it won't let me change it though : (
[02:15] <camadas> Guys any of u know why my compiz doesn't save the configuracion ? I have to configure it every time i start a new session
[02:16]  * Xgates gets dizzy watching the text fly by --- @_@
[02:16] <Morydd> godstar1: even thought the flashplugin-nonfree is listed as a transitional?
[02:16] <test34> josh__, usermod -u UID username ?
[02:16] <resno> Take0n: thanks, it might just be worth a reinstall. or switching back to windows till 9.10 gets working
[02:16] <datta> what got into me is that there are some linux images will they have effect on how i use the computer?
[02:16] <Take0n> no dude.. switch back to windows is not an option!!
[02:16] <josh__> test34: nope, user is currently logged in
[02:16] <Take0n> fresh install or just reinstall 9.04..
[02:17] <jon5000> I am having a problem getting citrix receiver set up on my ubuntu linux computer.  previously had it working fine, then reinstalled os (9.10 Karmic) now, it installs fine but doesnt let me save a connection i am creating (grayed out)
[02:17] <datta> if not please tell me so that i can clear up the system
[02:17] <Phenomenon> !me
[02:17] <jorrit> I have just removed and reinstalled pulseaudio. Signing off now...
[02:17] <coordinador> godstar1, i am theonly user and ticked all things in the graphical tool to manage groups and users
[02:17] <camadas> Josh__: do this, go to the console, type sudo passwd then it will ask for your user password, then u can change the root password
[02:17] <nhasian_> Theham, okay so you had ubuntu working, then you installed windows7 and it clobbered grub?
[02:18] <AussieGuy> for some reason links can access every website
[02:18] <zash> Haberdasher456: well, it says you have ~3.2 GB RAM for some reason?
[02:18] <josh__> camadas: and then I can log in as root with the new password?
[02:18] <Refefer> Hi there, a friend of mine has a couple of worries about upgrading to 9.10 because of grub 2.  He uses kgrubeditor to manage his menu and doesn't want to lose any functionality.  If he does an in-place upgrade, will grub 2 blow up his current config?
[02:18] <Theham> nhasian_, yes =(
[02:18] <camadas> Yes, it will ask u for the root password, and will ask u to confirm it
[02:18] <camadas> then u can try to su
[02:18] <josh__> camadas: thanks, I'll try that
[02:18] <Flannel> josh__: There's really no reason to set a root password
[02:19] <MenZa> Refefer: It will completely eradicate it and replace it with a new one.
[02:19] <camadas> any time josh__
[02:19] <Haberdasher456> zash, In my bios it happily sees 4 gig. Windows too
[02:19] <MenZa> Refefer: Grub2 has an entirely different way of handling OS selections.
[02:19] <josh__> Flannel: thanks
[02:19] <alexb92> gday guys ive got some problems upgrading to 9.10 using the upgrade ccd, it runs up to the stage where it starts to calulate
[02:19] <MenZa> Refefer: Currently, you can't even edit menus as far as I know :)
[02:19] <camadas> Guys any of u know why my compiz doesn't save the configuracion ? I have to configure it every time i start a new session
[02:19] <Xcell> well  i used the server kernel so i can see my 3g ram
[02:19] <test34> dont upgrade, do a fresh install
[02:19] <datta> please anyone who can actually help me
[02:19] <Xcell> 4g
[02:19] <datta> please respond because i have been waiting here for quite some time
[02:19] <Refefer> MenZa: that's worrisome.  He's a graphically oriented guy (terrified of the shell) and that'll definitely throw him off
[02:20] <datta> please help
[02:20] <alexb92> then a message box appears saying  that an unresolvable problem was caused whilst calculating the upgrade and it says it may be caused by held packages
[02:20] <Refefer> MenZa: is there an option to NOT install Grub 2?
[02:20] <alexb92> but before this happens i have a large list of pakages that arent supported by canonical
[02:20] <CheeseGamer> I like cheese.
[02:20] <MenZa> Refefer: If you update, it won't. It's too complicated to handle, so as FAR AS I KNOW, it'll stick with Grub legacy.
[02:20] <MenZa> Refefer: Have a look at the upgrade notes for it, though.
[02:20] <resno> datta: there are alot of people looking for help, including me. just sit tight and wait form someone to drop an answer
[02:20] <gl1d3r> me too
[02:20] <gl1d3r> cheesegamer
[02:20] <alexb92> and to make matters worse i cant get access to the internet on ubuntu due to corrupt files
[02:20] <Refefer> MenZa: I'll take a peak, thanks
[02:20] <Phenomenon> Quick question
[02:21] <MenZa> Refefer: No worried - good luck.
[02:21] <CheeseGamer> Code monkey like freetos, code monkeys like tab and Mn. Dew... /sings
[02:21] <MenZa> Phenomenon: EVEN QUICKER ANSWER. (No, do go on)
[02:21] <Phenomenon> How do i download from Launchpad?
[02:21] <MenZa> !ot > CheeseGamer
[02:21] <hasadmin> iki_scream
[02:21] <gl1d3r> goodbye cheesegamer
[02:21] <MenZa> Phenomenon: What do you want to download?
[02:21] <MenZa> Phenomenon: PPA packages?
[02:21] <camadas> Guys any of u know why my compiz doesn't save the configuracion ? I have to configure it every time i start a new session
[02:21] <Phenomenon> https://code.launchpad.net/~tsimpson/ubuntu-bots/tweak
[02:22] <green_peppers> hello
[02:22] <Phenomenon> •MenZa• https://code.launchpad.net/~tsimpson/ubuntu-bots/tweak
[02:22] <MenZa> Phenomenon: Install bazaar revision control and check out the branch.
[02:22] <green_peppers> is it typical for ssh-agent to run when logging into an xserver?
[02:22] <coordinador> hello, my /dev/vide0 is not recognized by any program, help please
[02:22] <Phenomenon> How
[02:22] <Phenomenon> Do i do that
[02:22] <Haberdasher456> zash, This is a newly built system and a freshly installed operating system
[02:22] <corden> help "Try hd(0,0): NTFS5: No wubildr"
[02:22] <MenZa> Phenomenon: sudo apt-get install bazaar; bzr branch lp:~tsimpson/ubuntu-bots/tweak <--- if I recall correctly.
[02:22] <alexb92> any ideas? i dont want to lose the data that is already on the ubuntu partition
[02:23] <Phenomenon> Windows
[02:23] <Phenomenon> sorry
[02:23] <Phenomenon> :P
[02:23] <Phenomenon> Anyway
[02:23] <MenZa> Phenomenon: Find a bazaar client for Windows - there should be some out there.
[02:23] <camadas> Guys any of u know why my compiz doesn't save the configuracion ? I have to configure it every time i start a new session
[02:23] <Phenomenon> Adn then
[02:23] <MenZa> camadas: Calm down, you don't need to repeat yourself every 30 seconds.
[02:24] <camadas> Have been here for 4 min all rdy and no anwser :P, i have been helping ppl while i wait
[02:24] <green_peppers> hello. i have asked my question 5 times. please help
[02:24] <resno> camadas: well join the crowd
[02:24] <MenZa> camadas: If people know, they will say.
[02:24] <wfoster> green_peppers: Depends.
[02:24] <alexb92> hmm
[02:24] <Haberdasher456> Does anybody know why gnome system monitor might show 3.1 instead of a full 4 gig of ram? (OS = Ubuntu 9.10 amd64)
[02:24] <bazhang> camadas, repeat every 15-20 minutes or so, check ubuntuforums whilst you wait
[02:24] <alexb92> u guys had any troubles upgrading ubuntu with alternate cd?
[02:25] <test34> green_peppers, ssh_agent should always be running if you need it
[02:25] <green_peppers> test34. i don't believe i need it. i don't use it for servers. i simply log on and it's running. is this normal?
[02:25] <camadas> Im searching goole and forums at the same time while i wait
[02:25] <esmit> There is some programmers room?
[02:25] <resno> if i decide to reinstall ubuntu on a dual boot, will the other install be safe?
[02:25] <pblchai> yes
[02:25] <pblchai> why?
[02:26] <MenZa> resno: the other install being Windows?
[02:26] <resno> MenZa: ya...
[02:26] <green_peppers> thank you all
[02:26] <MenZa> resno: Should be. It's still advised you back up any really important files, though.
[02:26] <hkm> some boddy can help me to run warcraft 3 in ubuntu 9.10?
[02:26] <resno> MenZa: i figured as such...
[02:26] <resno> hkm: !wine
[02:26] <MenZa> resno: And follow instructions carefully, you don't want Ubuntu to erase your drive because you're not attentive :)
[02:27] <resno> hkm: | !wine
[02:27] <hkm> i know wine, but dot work
[02:27] <KiRiLoS> Hello,i get the error:"Could not change permissions for <file>" when i try to copy files from a NTFS driver to another using dolphin.The one driver is just an external hdd and the other is a partition mounted to my system(I just mounted it a few minutes ago through fstab).I gave permissions to root:plugdev and chmod 770
[02:27] <hkm> dont*
[02:27] <bravo03> whats command to list channels?
[02:27] <resno> hkm: thats the only way... as far as i knw
[02:27] <KiRiLoS> bravo03, /list
[02:27] <resno> MenZa: that would be a terrible occurance...
[02:27] <Nixed> Can anyone help? My desktop crashes after 12 second after it appears. It works fine in recovery mode.
[02:27] <bravo03> unknown
[02:27] <hkm> resno: some web with explaind?¿
[02:27] <MenZa> hkm: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=897 <- Have a look there.
[02:27] <Nixed> I'm using Karmic
[02:27] <Morydd> since upgrading to 9.10, flash is not working in FF3.5 It is installed, but doesn't show up in FF's list of add-ons. Any suggestions?
[02:28] <Morydd> I tried reinstalling flash and FF packages.
[02:28] <enduser000> hello, why does gnome not show my user (in users & groups or the log in screen) in 9.10 when I change my username? ked does just fine, I used the same method
[02:28] <resno> MenZa: i know you dont know, but if you had to guess. if i just upgraded and things arent working would you troubleshoot or just reinstall? (try livecd)
[02:28] <enduser000> kde*
[02:29] <MenZa> resno: Um, did you just upgrade and failed it?
[02:29] <resno> MenZa: the upgrade worked, but a few devices arent working
[02:29] <pat_> has anyone had a problem with ubuntu 9.10 not showing the desktop after login?
[02:29] <test34> Morydd, did you install it using synaptic ?
[02:29] <ewb> pat_: what does it show instead
[02:29] <resno> MenZa: ie) sound, touch pad
[02:29] <Nixed> Pat: does the system hang?
[02:29] <MenZa> resno: Then why don't you ask about those devices instead? Your support request could take us in many different places if you don't be more speficific.
[02:30] <enduser000> why does gnome not show my user (in users & groups or the log in screen) in 9.10 when I change my username? kde does just fine, I used the same method
[02:30] <pat_> @ ewb: the mouse pointer and the spotlight background
[02:30] <ewb> pat_: if you're comfy with a console, hit ctrl-alt-F1 and then check out /var/log/*{gdm,X}*
[02:30] <MenZa> resno: Personally I'd Google around to see if others are having the same problems, if not, re-install. If so, see if there are fixes provided.
[02:30] <ewb> or ~/.xsession-errors or w/e that file is
[02:30] <kosmic> I shallu
[02:30] <ewb> pat_: to answer your direct question, no, i have not had that problem :(
[02:30] <resno> MenZa: i saw an audio fix but it didnt work. i think i will try the livecd, if it works ill prob re-install
[02:30] <ZoeyMarie> I just upgraded to 9.10, and now my usb wireless adapter isn't working. What do I do?
[02:31] <resno> MenZa: thanks
[02:31] <Morydd> test34: I did the reinstall of the flash plugin both via synaptic and CLI
[02:31] <kosmic> I shall upgrade to Karmic Koala Kubuntu (KKK) without closing all open applicattions
[02:31] <pat_> @ ewb: no response from the keyboard. Might go back and do a fresh reinstall
[02:31] <MenZa> resno: Welcome.
[02:31] <ewb> pat_: 's what i'd do :(
[02:31] <ewb> the livecd worked, yeah?
[02:31] <pat_> @ ewb; its early yet :)
[02:31] <alexb92> guys is there a back way to upgrade using the alternate cd? mine keeps crashing :(
[02:31] <enduser000> why does gnome not show my user (in users & groups or the log in screen) in 9.10 when I change my username? kde does just fine, I used the same method
[02:31] <ewb> kosmic: good luck with KKK
[02:31] <MenZa> alexb92: A 'back way'?
[02:32] <alexb92> as in my upgrade keeps crashing when its calculating the changges
[02:32] <alexb92> under the " setting new software channels section "
[02:32] <joljam> i am trying to install Karmic on my brand new AMD Phenom x4 desktop.. but for some reason after the whole installation I come to the command prompt... how can in start the GUI
[02:32] <MenZa> joljam: Try 'startx'.
[02:32] <ewb> alexb92: sounds like dpkg or apt is hosed, file a bug?
[02:33] <alexb92> i dunno
[02:33] <ewb> alexb92: does apt-get update from the commandline work?
[02:33] <ewb> and apt-get upgrade
[02:33] <ewb> if not, hosed
[02:33] <ewb> either way, file bug :)
[02:33] <boscop> okular can't open pdf files anymore after upgrading to karmic :(
[02:33] <coordinador> Help, i have my webcam recognized, but my programs dont find it
[02:33] <coordinador> i dont know why
[02:33] <alexb92> it comes up saying " an unresolvable problem occured whilst calculating the upgrade: E:Error, Pkgproblemresolver::resolve geenerated breaks, this may be caused by held packages
[02:33] <MenZa> ewb: Filing a bug without trying different options seems like a stupid idea. It'll probably be marked invalid or incomplete.
[02:34] <ewb> MenZa: that's fine, honestly
[02:34] <ewb> data about what kinds of things people are opening bugs about is good usability study
[02:34] <alexb92> and it sucks becoz i was installing 9.04 before when it first came out
[02:34] <ewb> it's not invalid if somebody had a problem :)
[02:34] <camadas> Im searching goole and forums at the same time while i wait
[02:34] <alexb92> and i had a power outage
[02:34] <camadas> Guys any of u know why my compiz doesn't save the configuracion ? I have to configure it every time i start a new session
[02:34] <enduser000> hello, can anyone help me write to hfs+ drives in ubuntu 9.10? by changing my uid in kubuntu 9.10 it works
[02:34] <alexb92> but it recovered but not the protocol for internet so i cant access anything net related on that computer hence the upgrade to 9.10
[02:35] <bazhang> camadas, have you also asked in #compiz
[02:35] <test34> How can I flip horizontally all images from my webcam (independently from the program that is using it)?
[02:35] <MenZa> alexb92: Erm, do a fresh install if your current setup is broken.
[02:35] <ewb> test34: probably have to hack the driver to do that
[02:35] <malv0> anyone else using the nvidia driver having problems?
[02:36] <malv0> my desktop seems to hang now
[02:36] <MenZa> !anyone | malv0
[02:36] <MenZa> And no.
[02:36] <alexb92> no other solutions ? it comes up with a box saying that theres packages that arent supported by canonical
[02:36] <alexb92> so i was thinking if i uninstall those that might be able to fix it?
[02:36] <ewb> alexb92: potentially, sure
[02:36] <ewb> sounds like you're in apt hell
[02:36] <alexb92> hahahaha
[02:36] <ewb> :)
[02:36] <alexb92> im just in hell lol
[02:36] <Pici> alexb92: And? Thats normal.
[02:37] <ewb> alexb92: so yeah, start with that.
[02:37] <alexb92> so annoying, had downloaded a crap load of packages
[02:37] <MenZa> It sounds like his entire box is hosed. I mean, he said his 9.04 install broke because of a powerout, so it makes sense that it's horribly broken?
[02:37] <ewb> the packages will be cached on your system at least
[02:37] <malv0> any known bugs with the alternate install cd?
[02:37] <alexb92> and to find out that i have to reinstall would be a huge bummer
[02:37] <test34> ewb, could that be v4l1_compat ?
[02:37] <alexb92> well i mean 9.04 works fine, internet is screwed on it thats all
[02:37] <ewb> test34: no idea, i haven't used webcam drivers in a long time
[02:37] <MenZa> malv0: Check the release notes. This isn't really the place to ask. Or in that fashion, anyway.
[02:38] <D3RGPS31> after installing fglrx drivers; i freeze after boot splash at a black screen; Ubuntu 9.10 fresh install; ATI 4850
[02:38] <ewb> test34: but it would likely involve recompiling either a kernel module or some userspace stuff that uses it
[02:38] <ewb> after, you know, coding in horiz rotate support
[02:38] <ewb> i'd ask the v4l dudes
[02:38] <ewb> if i were you
[02:38] <Morydd> test34: I did the reinstall of the flash plugin both via synaptic and CLI
[02:38] <test34> thanks ewb
[02:38] <Morydd> oops
[02:38] <ewb> good luck
[02:38] <malv0> eh, it's not worth my time... i'm amazed how many weird issues i've been having with a fresh install. think it's time i switch distros. each ubuntu release has more and more problems out of box
[02:38] <Morydd> since upgrading to 9.10, flash is not working in FF3.5 It is installed, but doesn't show up in FF's list of add-ons. Any suggestions?
[02:38] <Roasted> Hey guys - I got a real quick command question. I have 2 drives mounted respectively on /media/storage and /media/storagebackup. I want to COPY all of the data on storage to also be on storagebackup. But when I run my cp command, a folder named "storage" gets created within storagebackup. I don't want it to be storagebackup/storage. I just want storagebackup/data. What am I doing wrong?
[02:38] <MenZa> alexb92: You don't always notice internal bleeding.
[02:38] <AussieGuy> ive found internet is no good on 9.10, firefox thinks most domains have the IP of 1.1.1.1 (dns problem). Funnily enough console programs access the net fine, links for example will go to any website
[02:39] <ewb> Roasted: so the naive answer is cp storage/* /wherever/else
[02:39] <ewb> but
[02:39] <MenZa> alexb92: I hope you get my metaphor. Just because you can see a bruise (i.e., no internet connection), doesn't mean more can't be broken.
[02:39] <jken146> Morydd: sudo apt-get remove --purge flashplugin* && sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[02:39] <ewb> you can always mv data/storage/* data/
[02:39] <ewb> afterwards
[02:39] <ewb> so it doesn't really matter
[02:39] <ewb> mv is fast
[02:39] <FloodBot3> ewb: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:39] <Roasted> ewb - ah yes, thats right.
[02:39] <Diddleha> This is the magic Karmic 9.10 cmd to play dvds and such things: # sudo apt-get install gstreamer-tools ubuntu-restricted-extras*
[02:39] <D3RGPS31> after installing fglrx drivers; i freeze after boot splash at a black screen; Ubuntu 9.10 fresh install; ATI 4850
[02:39] <Roasted> ewb - didnt think of that -thanks bro
[02:39] <ewb> np brah
[02:39] <coordinador> Help, i have my webcam recognized, but my programs dont find it
[02:40] <test34> ewb, do you type 100 words a minute?
[02:40] <Roasted> ewb - duur. OR I could just run my rsync script and itll move it anyway.
[02:40] <Diddleha> mandrak!!! :)
[02:40] <ewb> test34: dvorak duh :D
[02:40] <alexb92> menza: yeah thats true , ive got a bit of a conundrum now, i have to uninstall acl but acl is linked with all these other packages
[02:40] <alexb92> so its kinda bad
[02:40] <bazhang> Diddleha, please desist
[02:40] <ewb> Roasted: yeap.
[02:40] <Roasted> ewb - I'm trying to move my backup drives to ext4 so I have to do 1 at a time, move data, format to ext4, move data back, etc.
[02:40] <Roasted> ewb - headache infatuated...
[02:40] <ewb> i hate filesystem moves
[02:40] <LogicalDash_mibb> I just did a clean upgrade from an old install where I'd set up ecryptfs. I forgot to decrypt my files before copying them over. I've got the password I used, but not the unwrapped passphrase. How might I go about getting the unwrapped passphrase?
[02:40] <Diddleha> baz, hows it hangin ? :)
[02:40] <test34> ewb, I need to try that;)
[02:40] <Roasted> ewb - I've never done it, to be honest. ext3 was always around since Ive been on ubuntu.
[02:40] <MenZa> alexb92: I wouldn't provide support on a system like yours. It's most likely broken in a million different pieces and I highly, HIGHLY recommend a fresh install.
[02:40] <jken146> D3RGPS31: reboot in recovery mode; reconfigure X (make sure you have the right driver package for your card installed and do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg)
[02:41] <ewb> Roasted: fwiw ext3 is still good enough
[02:41] <adonai2009> some onde know a channel dedicated to backtrack linux ?
[02:41] <adonai2009> remote exploit ?
[02:41] <scunizi> #blackhat?
[02:41] <enduser000> does anyone know how to fix this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8196244 it seems to be a 9.10 problem and I'm having it also
[02:41] <D3RGPS31> jken146: thank you
[02:42] <Dom_> Hello everybody
[02:42] <bazhang> adonai2009, #remote-exploit
[02:42] <test34> ewb, do you always carry a keyboard with you? they are not very popular
[02:42] <assoguerozen_sx> guys you know some good stuff about upstart?
[02:42] <Roasted> ewb - Oh yeah, I have no problems with it. Im just kinda bored and want to play around with the newest FS is all.
[02:42] <ewb> test34: nah just remap the keys in software
[02:42] <dox_drum> hi pl!
[02:42] <ewb> Roasted: try out btrfs prereleases :D
[02:42]  * scunizi remembers his grandfather talking about upstarts
[02:42] <test34> ewb, good idea
[02:42] <Roasted> ewb - is that test-machine material?
[02:43] <ewb> Roasted: if you don't care about your test machine data, sure
[02:43] <boscop> for some pdfs, okular refuses to open them and I have to use evince :(
[02:43] <boscop> why can't okular open them then?
[02:43] <ZoeyMarie> Okay, so I've found the linux drivers for my wireless adapter, can someone help me understand the directions for installing them?
[02:43] <Roasted> ewb - is that the FS way off in the future for linux?
[02:43] <Diddleha> adonai2009: I like #2600 on 2600. They are fairly ~
[02:43] <Roasted> ewb - I read something about it but forgot the name.
[02:43] <shankhs> \quit
[02:43] <ewb> Roasted: might be or might not be, depends where the distro go, i guess
[02:43] <Dom_> I need some help. I tried to uninstall evolution, but now I don't have graphical mode. I guess it's because it take out ubuntu desktop too
[02:43] <MenZa> ZoeyMarie: Toss me whatever instructions you have and I'll have a go at it.
[02:43] <xiambax> Is there anyway to access ubuntuone from another os or via web?
[02:43] <troy1> had to shut my comp off in middle of Jaunty > Karmic upgrade. Now all it says on reboot is "/etc/fstab cannot yet be mounted"... any help?
[02:43] <Diddleha> adonai2009: I suggest skills
[02:44] <xiambax> nm
[02:44] <xiambax> i signed up but i had to subscribe also
[02:44] <xiambax> its lame
[02:44] <coordinador> Help, i have my webcam recognized, but my programs dont find it
[02:44] <MenZa> troy1: Sounds like you might need a re-install on that box. That's probably the worst possible thing you could do to trash your system.
[02:44] <jken146> xiambax: look at the FAQs at one.ubuntu.com -- I think you can, but check there to be sure
[02:44] <scunizi> xiambax: http://one.ubuntu.com
[02:44] <Diddleha> sudo apt-get install w32codecs (Yeah!:)
[02:44] <ubuntu> I am trying to get Ubuntu to run on a Vista System. I installed it / on a partition, and I used easybcd to add Ubuntu to the Vista boot loader, but when it attempts to load from the ext4 partition it finds no system. What do I have to do to grub to get this to work?
[02:44] <ewb> is there a way to do iphone syncing on ubuntu yet?
[02:44] <MenZa> Diddleha: Please stop.
[02:44] <MenZa> !iphone > ewb
[02:44] <sevenless> Why is 9.10 so big, couldn't they just send out a diff version?
[02:45] <Diddleha> MenZa: To be able to play VOB's
[02:45] <troy1> MenZa: Thanks, it's what I figured, I might as well get started
[02:45] <MenZa> Diddleha: Noone asked about it. Pleae don't.
[02:45] <MenZa> troy1: heh, better luck this time :)
[02:45] <ewb> MenZa: cool
[02:45] <test34> I just did a fresh install from a 64bit beta (updated to final) with encrypted home partition to 32bit final no encryption and it seems like it's 10x faster
[02:45] <scunizi> sevenless: because ubuntu has a lot of new users each release.. no diff to do
[02:45] <Diddleha> MenZa: On Karmic. I asked today, noone knew. Knowledge is good, dont you think ?
[02:45] <jken146> troy1: The easiest thing might well be to do a clean install of karmic from a CD.  You can mount your hard disk(s) from the CD and make sure you don't lose your data.
[02:45] <ewb> wow
[02:46] <Dom_> I tried to install ubuntu-desktop but it asks for the cd, but is like it doesn't recongnize it. So I would like to know how to install from Internet
[02:46] <MenZa> Diddleha: Yes. But this is not #ubuntu-advice, it's purely for direct support.
[02:46] <ewb> iphone on linux is real green still
[02:46] <sevenless> scunizi: but if you have 9.04, why not just send you a diff to upgrade, instead of this 1Gb monstrosity
[02:46] <ewb> i'm surprised
[02:46] <bazhang> Diddleha, please take chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:46] <MenZa> Dom_: Remove the CD from System -> Administration -> Software Sources
[02:46] <Theham> please help.. I can't add win 7 to grub list =(
[02:46] <WanHouse> MenZa: Its training as it always was
[02:46] <ZoeyMarie> MenZa: thank you. It wants me to "define the GCC and LD of the target machine" and I have no idea what that means.
[02:46] <coordinador> Help, i have my webcam recognized, but my programs dont find it
[02:46] <troy1> jken146: Thanks I will give that a try, if it doesn't work I'll clean install
[02:46] <ubuntu> theham: you need easybcd to do that
[02:46] <Roasted> you can rsync FROM any file system TO any file system as long as linux supports it right?
[02:46] <jken146> ubuntu: Why did you not let it install grub?
[02:46] <MenZa> ZoeyMarie: Humm, do you have the guide handy? That sounds rather obscure.
[02:46] <scunizi> sevenless: that's what the upgrade button does under the update option..
[02:47] <MenZa> ZoeyMarie: Perhaps if I can see it in a context it'll make more sense.
[02:47] <Dom_> MenZa: Right now Im from live-cd
[02:47] <ubuntu> jken146: I just ran the default install from cd
[02:47] <sevenless> scunizi: I'm upgrading right now, and it's still 1Gb of files
[02:47] <ZoeyMarie> How should I send it to you?
[02:47] <MenZa> Dom_: Well, boot your system, then.
[02:47] <ubuntu> i am also in live-cd right now
[02:47] <jken146> test34: that's because of the encryption
[02:47] <MenZa> ZoeyMarie: Where are these instructions? In a README file? Try putting them in a pastebin - http://paste.ubuntu.com
[02:47] <xiambax> no more ubuntu+1?
[02:47] <xiambax> i like dat chan
[02:47] <WanHouse> ZoeyMarie: export CC=`/Path/to/CC-of-your-choise`
[02:47] <bazhang> xiambax, not for a little while, no
[02:47] <MenZa> xiambax: We have no use for it right now.
[02:47] <sevenless> if they just send the differences between the 9.04 and 9.10 files I bet it would be a lot smaller
[02:48] <dan__904> okay.  i'm trying to install 9.10, no graphics show up.  i tried the alternate cd, and it craps out when it's time to write grub to the master boot record.  i have 2 radeon x1950 video cards.  anyone know how i can do this?
[02:48] <scunizi> sevenless: most things are rebuilt/compiled for each release because of the gross number of changes
[02:48] <sevenless> Oh, OK, that makes sense.
[02:48] <ZoeyMarie> WanHouse, what?
[02:48] <Dom_> MenZa: I did, but I don't have graphical mode. At this moment Im from live cd
[02:48] <Theham> please help.. I can't add win 7 to grub list =(
[02:48] <high-rez> Is there a good ubuntu solution for multitouth trackpads ?
[02:48] <MenZa> Dom_: You can edit it with sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:48] <high-rez> s/good ubuntu solution/ubuntu solution
[02:48] <high-rez> :)
[02:48] <MenZa> Dom_: Simply comment out the CD line.
[02:48] <test34> jken146, they should not even offer it in the install... or they should add a warning
[02:48] <ZoeyMarie> MenZa: http://paste.ubuntu.com/305560/
[02:48] <sevenless> high-rez: after installing ubuntu, my trackpad on my Dell is actually much better than it was under XP
[02:49] <Xcell> oi
[02:49] <high-rez> sevenless: Mine works - but its multitouch features dont. E.g. two finger scrolling.
[02:49] <ZoeyMarie> MenZa: can you make sense of any of that? I have no idea what any of the steps mean. :(
[02:49] <jken146> !grub > ubuntu
[02:49] <jken146> Qgrub
[02:49] <jken146> !grub
[02:49] <MenZa> ZoeyMarie: One moment :)
[02:49] <sevenless> high-rez: I get 2 and 3 fingers fine
[02:49] <sevenless> Dell Inspiron here
[02:50] <high-rez> sevenless: Did you have to do anything special to enable it ?
[02:50] <sevenless> high-rez: absolutely nothing.
[02:50] <high-rez> Or did it just work 'out of the box' ?
[02:50] <Dom_> MenZa: ok. I'll try...
[02:50] <high-rez> Hmmf
[02:50] <leejo> Hey all
[02:50] <leejo> I'm completely new to ubuntu
[02:50] <WanHouse> ZoeyMarie: HMM="/bin/ls" && $HMM (Switch your $CC that way you could)
[02:50] <Roasted> Question - if I run rsync with the -a function, it should carry over the group as long as I own the directory of the folder in question. But it doesn't copy over as jason:samba, it copies as jason:jason. It doesn't retain the group.... why wouldn't it retain the group?
[02:50] <Morydd> jken146: no change
[02:50] <ubuntu> jken146: I never had grub to begin with. No ubuntu here until recent install.
[02:50] <sevenless> hi leejo
[02:50] <MightyTweek> Welcome, leejo!
[02:50] <MenZa> ZoeyMarie: I've been on Linux for four years now, and I've never seen any README files that obscure, sorry. :\
[02:50] <ZoeyMarie> WanHouse what is that mean?
[02:50] <leejo> well, not completely....I've tried installing and using in the past....didn't work....but i'm determined to get 9.10 working and useable
[02:50] <Dom_> MenZa: after that It will automatically do it from Internet?
[02:50] <dan__904> i'm trying to install 9.10, no graphics show up.  i tried the alternate cd, and it craps out when it's time to write grub to the master boot record.  i have 2 radeon x1950 video cards.  anyone know how i can do this?
[02:51] <leejo> thanks for the welcome
[02:51] <MenZa> Dom_: sudo apt-get update - then it will.
[02:51] <leejo> i'm having some trouble getting my wireless working
[02:51] <WanHouse> ZoeyMarie: How to set your $CC
[02:51] <leejo> i've tried to setup my ssid and the wpa pass code....but had no luck
[02:51] <leejo> is there anyone that can help with this?
[02:51] <jken146> ubuntu: the installer should install grub as the final step. you can do it manually though
[02:51] <ZoeyMarie> I don't even know what the CC is... I'm supposed to define it in a config file.
[02:51] <leejo> i'm using an IBM T41
[02:51] <WanHouse> Kindergarten in all its glory ;)
[02:51] <Capt_Blackwood> can somebody help me with my sound?
[02:52] <MightyTweek> leejo, what happened when you tried to connect to the wireless network?
[02:52] <trism> ZoeyMarie: c compiler
[02:52] <Capt_Blackwood> it's producing distortion/ringing/crackling...
[02:52] <WanHouse> ZoeyMarie: Take it from the beginning. What are you trying to do ?
[02:52] <Dom_> MenZa: OK. Thanks. I'll let you know in a while. Bye
[02:52] <test34> zoeymarie: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-837548.html is this related?
[02:52] <MenZa> Dom_: good luck.
[02:52] <Capt_Blackwood> hello?
[02:52] <leejo> MightyTweek: well, the icon looked like it was trying to connect...but then didn't connect and just disconnected
[02:53] <ubuntu> jken146: I have a grub folder in my /boot directory.  I think the issue is that grub is not set up properly.
[02:53] <ZoeyMarie> test34: I was just starting to read that when you sent the same link to me! :D  it looks like it might help
[02:53] <WanHouse> ZoeyMarie: ?
[02:53] <xiambax> brb
[02:53] <jken146> !grub
[02:53] <Capt_Blackwood> Guys i'd really like some assistance... :(
[02:54] <alexb92> menza : quick question mate, can i do a repair using the 9.04 cd? then do an upgrade using 9.10 alternate?
[02:54] <MenZa> !sound | Capt_Blackwood (have a look at this)
[02:54] <test34> Capt_Blackwood, pastie the output of dmesg might help
[02:54] <MenZa> alexb92: You can just install from the 9.10 alternate.
[02:54] <ZoeyMarie> WanHouse: I just upgraded to 9.10 and my wireless adapter stopped working. I found the linux drivers for it, but I don't understand the readme file. It's telling me to do a bunch of stuff that I can't make sense of. We just found a thread that might help me out though. ;)
[02:55] <alexb92> menza: oh right i see, so that should repair then problems then?
[02:55] <Morydd> since upgrading to 9.10, flash is not working in FF3.5 It is installed, but doesn't show up in FF's list of add-ons. Any suggestions?
[02:55] <gluonman> What are the advantages of installing a 64-bit version of Ubuntu over a 32-bit version? Disadvantages?
[02:55] <MenZa> alexb92: If you install it from scratch, it'll remove your problems :P
[02:55] <harushimo> I was just wondering what is format to establish a export statement in bashrc file
[02:55] <Annonymorse> I just installed my webcam drivers under WINE because easycam isn't worth a crap for old cameras. Do I have to install an additional browser under WINE to use this cam?
[02:55] <jken146> Morydd: sudo apt-get remove --purge flashplugin* && sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[02:55] <test34> gluonman, stick with 32bit
[02:55] <WanHouse> ZoeyMarie: I really really really want to play some vob files but that too stopped working it seems :(
[02:55] <mbrigdan> Is there a reason that upgrading to 9.10 wants to remove selinux and install apache? (Neither of which I want)
[02:55] <Morydd> jken146: no change
[02:55] <camadas> Guys any of u know why my compiz doesn't save the configuracion ? I have to configure it every time i start a new session.
[02:55] <camadas>  Belive it or not, i still not found info about this
[02:55] <WanHouse> ZoeyMarie: Its a laugh your brains out comedy dvd
[02:56] <gluonman> test34, could you give me some reasons?
[02:56] <Capt_Blackwood> test34, how am i supposed to paste all that?
[02:56] <test34> gluonman, a few things was faster for me but I had many problems (maybe programs dont work or don't work as expected)
[02:56] <jamiewan_> anyone having trouble login to facebook, (Jaunty) my browser FF doesnt want to know about it all of a sudden
[02:57] <test34> Capt_Blackwood, http://pastie.org/
[02:57] <gluonman> test34, alright. Do you know why someone would use 64-bit in the first place?
[02:57] <Annonymorse> ﻿I just installed my webcam drivers under WINE because easycam isn't worth a crap for old cameras. Do I have to install an additional browser under WINE to use this cam?
[02:57] <mbrigdan> gluonman: If you have lots of ram
[02:57] <jken146> !64bit
[02:57] <WanHouse> ZoeyMarie: Hmm, had to press "yes" to allow the Java install (Thought that was free now) ?
[02:57] <test34> gluonman, maybe to report bugs
[02:57] <StarMatt> Hi everybody
[02:57] <gluonman> mbrigdan, why is that?
[02:58] <coordinador> i found that , and my cam doesnt work
[02:58] <coordinador>  hub 1-0:1.0: Cannot enable port 6.  Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[02:58] <jken146> gluonman: it should be faster for some things, and you can have more RAM
[02:58] <test34> gluonman, if you want to help the 64 developers, you could use it and report what is wrong
[02:58] <Capt_Blackwood> test34, http://pastie.org/677672
[02:58] <gluonman> jken146, so the appeal behind 64-bit is just to optimize on speed?
[02:58] <Capt_Blackwood> i doubt this'll do any good
[02:58] <mbrigdan> gluonman: 32-bit technically only supports 4GB of ram, but I think ubuntu pushes it to 64GB. Personally, 64-bit works fine for me, but unless you know a decent amount about linux, I would stick to 32-bit
[02:59]  * Annonymorse might go back to XP...
[02:59] <jken146> test34, gluonman: 64bit ubuntu works just as well as 32bit these days
[02:59] <StarMatt> I'm trying the Netbook Remix version at the moment, and I was wondering what are the big differences with "easy peasy". Do you know about it ?
[02:59] <aresnick> Hi!  I have an LVM that I'd like to shrink, and I've found it surprisingly difficult to find out how to do this.  I have a single Physical Volume (sda1) and several Logical Volumes (/home is the one I want to shrink, so I can expand root, usr, var, tmp, and swap_1)  I'm running ext3.  Any hints or pointers would be much appreciated.
[02:59] <Capt_Blackwood> I have a 5.1 surround card that's getting screwed over hardcore...this not looking good
[02:59] <enduser000> can anyone help me with this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/465980
[02:59] <jken146> gluonman: I'm no expert.  Look up 64bit on wikipedia or something
[02:59] <WanHouse> Annonymorse: Whats the problem ?
[02:59] <mbrigdan> Is there a reason that upgrading to 9.10 wants to remove selinux and install apache? (Neither of which I want)
[03:00] <baltadt> what text editor has root permissions?
[03:00] <Annonymorse> ﻿I just installed my webcam drivers under WINE because easycam isn't worth a crap for old cameras. Do I have to install an additional browser under WINE to use this cam?
[03:00] <jken146> aresnick: the server guide has some info on LVM and it links to a very full guide
[03:00] <jken146> !server
[03:00] <test34> jken146, it doesnt but yes it's alot better then it used to be
[03:00] <Capt_Blackwood> MenZa, the sound guide was not what i'm after. I have a sound problem where the speakers are distorted badly
[03:00] <mbrigdan> baltadt: Thats not really a question. The user is the one that determines what privlidges a program has
[03:00] <courpse> My firefox buttons dont work, the back/forward refresh, stop are all disabled and dont come back enabled after restart, i used apt-get remove firefox and the firefox is still there, how do i reinstall or resolve the problem at hand?
[03:00] <KnifeySpooney> Umm.. I just rebooted from Windows (dual boot) into Karmic and I got hit with a "Error mounting filesystem" error. Luckily I was able to run "fsck" and fsck fixed it in a few seconds. A few bad sectors I think it said. Is there anything else I should do? This makes me a little nervous about my ext4 [root] filesystem.
[03:00] <gluonman> mbrigdan, that was very informational, thank you. I'm familiar with linux, but I haven't really used 64-bit before. I just wanted to learn some things.
[03:00] <WanHouse> Annonymorse: Try to put the nick youre talking to first in the sayings, that way we can pick it up.
[03:01] <jken146> test34: I've had no trouble on various machines.  Depends what you want to do with it -- best tool for the job and all that.
[03:01] <Annonymorse> WanHouse, ﻿I just installed my webcam drivers under WINE because easycam isn't worth a crap for old cameras. Do I have to install an additional browser under WINE to use this cam?
[03:01] <baltadt> I want to boot faster so I need to use a text editor
[03:01] <mbrigdan> baltadt: If you want something simple, goto a terminal and type gksudo gedit <file>
[03:01] <baltadt> thank you
[03:01] <courpse> My firefox buttons dont work, the back/forward refresh, stop are all disabled and dont come back enabled after restart, i used apt-get remove firefox and the firefox is still there, how do i reinstall or resolve the problem at hand?
[03:01] <WanHouse> Annonymorse: You dont need windows drivers. What brand and model is it ?
[03:01] <Theham> How do you show the grub menu selection list when booting?
[03:01] <bthornton> Does Karmic support LVM partitioning in the graphical installer yet or do I still need to download the alternate image for that?
[03:02] <jken146> Annonymorse: please stop flooding!  no one knows.  Ask in the forums or google a bit
[03:02] <test34> capt_blackwood: [    9.420031] hda-intel: no codecs found!, maybe try to download codec from intel's website
[03:02] <Annonymorse> WanHouse: GE Minicam Pro 98756
[03:02] <harushimo> I need some bash scripting because i'm doing some experimenting. any help would be great
[03:02] <aresnick> jken146: I only found ext2 support there; was I missing something? (see, e.g. http://bit.ly/3qmRKf)
[03:02] <Capt_Blackwood> It's not an intel it's a Creative Labs SoundBlaster X-Fi....
[03:02] <mbrigdan> gluonman: Well, the main problems I have is that a few programs (not from the repositories) need 32-bit libs, you can fix it, its just a pain. But yeah, unless you plan to do major development, 64-bit should be fine
[03:02] <Capt_Blackwood> it's supposed to work out of the box with NO problems
[03:02] <jken146> bthornton: you can install with the desktop CD and then set up an LVM afterwards.  see the server guide
[03:02] <Annonymorse> jken146: I wouldn't be here if google didn't already tell me
[03:02] <test34> Capt_Blackwood, do you have on-board and pci sound card?
[03:02] <KnifeySpooney> [[ I just rebooted from Windows (dual boot) into Karmic and I got hit with a "Error mounting filesystem" error. Luckily I was able to run "fsck" and fsck fixed it in a few seconds. A few bad sectors I think it said. Is there anything else I should do? This makes me a little nervous about my ext4 [root] filesystem. ]]
[03:02] <alexb92> menza: well looks like thats the only way to fix it lol, is there a way to backup like registry or packages or something? i dont really want to lose everything
[03:03] <Capt_Blackwood> PCI Sound card
[03:03] <mbrigdan> gluonman: Oh, and the flash plugin needs a little bit of tinkering to install, but its really easy
[03:03] <test34> Capt_Blackwood, do you also have on-board?
[03:03] <jken146> Annonymorse: ok, sorry.
[03:03] <Capt_Blackwood> the one before that generated the same issues
[03:03] <Capt_Blackwood> nope...that's also a card
[03:03] <WanHouse> Annonymorse: I just upgraded to "Karmic 9.10", this command lets me play DVD's again (.VOB's) == sudo apt-get install gstreamer-tools ubuntu-restricted-extras*
[03:03] <bthornton> jken146: I've already got LVM setup on an existing Ubuntu (Jaunty) install would would like to utilize that same partition structure. Looks like text-based for me...
[03:03] <Annonymorse> will try that, thanks
[03:03] <WanHouse> Annonymorse: Now i can help others
[03:03] <WanHouse> as im pleased
[03:03] <mbrigdan> Is there a reason that upgrading to 9.10 wants to remove selinux and install apache? (Neither of which I want)
[03:03] <JackLY> .
[03:03] <jken146> bthornton: you have
[03:04] <ZoeyMarie> Ok. How would I install drivers that are in a tar.bz2 package?
[03:04] <WanHouse> Annonymorse: USB ?
[03:04] <Capt_Blackwood> test34, ideas?
[03:04] <Annonymorse> WanHouse: yes
[03:04] <jken146> bthornton: you have LVM already but you want to upgrade to karmic?  Just type do-release-upgrade
[03:04] <PRIDE> can you partician after an os is installed?
[03:04] <gluonman> mbrigdan, I work at this place that gave me a laptop they are going to use for polycom and general astrophysical purposes. It needs to be a dual-boot linux and Windows with the option of booting the Windows partition from a virtual box in linux.
[03:04] <offsense> my desktop hangs anytyme i try to enable desktop effct on karmic, any soultion? *am using intel 82945G
[03:04] <jken146> ZoeyMarie: what are they for?  Is there a package in the repositories that does what you want?
[03:04] <bthornton> hmm...
[03:04] <gluonman> mbrigdan, so I just wanted to know if it would be wise for me to go with 64-bit, or if it would just be a pain and make my work more difficult.
[03:05] <camadas> Guys what is the option on LS to see the folders that start whit a . ? i dont remenber
[03:05] <FyreFoX> gluonman: do you have more than 4G of ram?
[03:05] <WanHouse> Annonymorse: Tested Xsane, Qcam and other programs ?
[03:05] <penthief> camadas, ls -a
[03:05] <camadas> Thanks
[03:05] <Annonymorse> just manycam so far
[03:05] <jken146> PRIDE: yes.  You can't do some things to partitions that are mounted though, so using a live CD to do the rearranging gives you most freedom.  Be careful of losing data though!
[03:05] <mbrigdan> gluonman: I'd go with 32-bit to be safe, but as long as it actually is a 64bit PC, either will work fine
[03:06] <bthornton> jken146: good call. Thanks! :)
[03:06] <Annonymorse> WanHouse: just easycam so far and cheese.
[03:06] <PRIDE> jken146, thx a bunch
[03:06] <esmit> Does somone had experienced problems with GNOME-PANEL, like it using 500mb of RAM becouse of a deadlock that consumes all resources?
[03:06] <dan__617> hello.  i have a problem.  i can not install 9.10 from either the regular desktop cd or the alternate cd.  it won't install grub to the master boot record at the end of the install with the alternate cd.  has anyone had this experience?
[03:06] <adonai2009> i got a pertinent question , if there is a linux version callled backtrack , so no computer in world is safe anyway , this is true ?
[03:06] <gluonman> FyreFoX, it's dual-core
[03:06] <jken146> bthornton, PRIDE : np
[03:06] <offsense>  my desktop hangs anytyme i try to enable desktop effct on karmic, any soultion? *am using intel 82945G
[03:06] <adonai2009> backtrack got tools to penetrate any computer os ?
[03:06] <WanHouse> Annonymorse: My suggestion is to try some camera capture programs.
[03:06] <mbrigdan> Is there a reason that upgrading to 9.10 wants to remove selinux and install apache? (Neither of which I want)
[03:06] <FyreFoX> gluonman: thats nice. Do you have more than 4G of ram?
[03:06] <Capt_Blackwood> I was looking forward to this release...what happened?
[03:06] <test34> Capt_Blackwood, my only idea is intel, sorry
[03:06] <jken146> esmit: kill it off: type 'killall gnome-panel'
[03:07] <Annonymorse> WanHouse: My camera does not work on Tinychat or CHEESE.
[03:07] <gluonman> mbrigdan, it is a 64-bit PC, that's why I was wondering. But I guess I'll just test it out and find out for myself. I just need this done by Monday.
[03:07] <shiznebit_TB> Annonymorse: whats the camera
[03:07] <adonai2009> my ubuntu is upgrading now to ubuntu 9.10
[03:07] <Annonymorse> WanHouse: is there another driver installation tool that I can acquire?
[03:07] <WanHouse> Annonymorse: First check the logs /var/log/messages etc to see if its detected and a driver is loaded for it
[03:07] <Capt_Blackwood> the intel card was screwing up too
[03:07] <tecna> Hello I am having issues with deleted users not staying gone after deletion. Is there a file that can be manually edited by chance or a solution?
[03:07] <scunizi> adonai2009: that's a question (or statement) you should do on #ubuntu-offtopic .. not here.
[03:07] <adonai2009> i hope it will beb better and safer
[03:07] <PRIDE> Annonymorse, whats tinychat? is it voip?
[03:07] <Annonymorse> shiznebit_TB: GE Minicam Pro 98756
[03:07] <test34> gluonman, flash doesnt work well with 64bit, that is probably the worst problem
[03:07] <WanHouse> Annonymorse: Driver doesnt matter for higher level programs
[03:07] <jken146> tecna: did you use userdel?
[03:07] <Annonymorse> PRIDE: webcam chat, like stickam but with no registration
[03:07] <linuxmonger> Can anyone tell me how to enable home folder encryption for the second user?
[03:08] <PRIDE> Annonymorse, thx
[03:08] <gluonman> test34, alright. That's good to know.
[03:08] <mbrigdan> test34: Works fine for me, as long as I don't leave a flash game running more than 4 hours
[03:08] <tecna> jken146: Is that a cmd line? And what would be the syntax please?
[03:08] <jken146> linuxmonger: IIRC there's an option when you create the user
[03:08] <FyreFoX> test34: I dont have any problems with flash on 64bit been using it since jaunty
[03:08] <WanHouse> Anders, Raska Taska Pa, Tva Tre ChaChaCha :)
[03:08] <dan__617> well does anyone know how to get 9.10 working with 2 radeon x1950 cards?
[03:08] <test34> mbrigdan, I tried flash64bit and flash32bit with ubuntu 64 bit and had problems with both
[03:09] <jken146> tecna: yes
[03:09] <WanHouse> HabaHaba söt söt, rockNroll
[03:09] <WanHouse> :)
[03:09] <tecna> jken146: They wont stay gone from the graphic interface which is why I need another alternative.
[03:09] <WanHouse> Robert Gustavsson rocks
[03:10] <ZoeyMarie> jken146: They are for my wireless adapter, and I haven't been able to find a package that looks like it'd be it.
[03:10] <Capt_Blackwood> Who here has a creative X-FI running with NO Problems?
[03:10] <jken146> tecna: Actually you should use deluser rather than userdel (bit safer).  What you said about the GUI doesn't make sense to me
[03:10] <Annonymorse> WanHouse: XSane does not detect the camera
[03:11] <jken146> ZoeyMarie: I see.  I don't know much about wireless, but I do believe there is a wireless troubleshooting guide at help.ubuntu.com -- I'd go through that first if I were you
[03:11] <WanHouse> Annonymorse: Log-check first. See if it can load a driver for the cam or if it cannot detect it. In the latter case youll need a driver
[03:11] <tecna> jken146: It shows up in GDM, but userdel says it does not exist...
[03:11] <jken146> !wireless
[03:11] <jken146> !wifi
[03:11] <ZoeyMarie> jken146: thank you
[03:12] <Dom1> MenZa: Hi Men. Your advise worked pretty well. Now I have my ubuntu back. THANKS YOU
[03:12] <test34> FyreFoX, you probably mean flash32 because the flash64bit just came out (it's still alpha)
[03:12] <Annonymorse> WanHouse: Everything lately has been coming up undetected, including in Device Manager
[03:12] <FyreFoX> test34: whatever it is, it works well :P
[03:12] <TheCheeze> ok... i am starting to get pissed... the erratic sound issues when away when i uninstalled pulseaudio, but i lost all of my notifications including my temperature in the tray
[03:12] <jken146> tecna: is there a directory for that user in /home ?  Is there an entry in /etc/passwd
[03:12] <jken146> ?
[03:12] <Wolfcastle> I get an error when trying to update from 9.04 to 9.10
[03:13] <test34> FyreFoX, it doesn't for me... so I guess it could be worth a try
[03:13] <WanHouse> Annonymorse: Hmm, FC10 was like that for me. Everything is fixable nowdays though. even the most obscure things.
[03:13] <Wolfcastle> it says "could not download. please check your internet connection"
[03:13] <tecna> jken146:No entires in either
[03:14] <PRIDE> so ubuntu 9.10....before i switch to it whats everyones opinion on it?
[03:14] <test34> Wolfcastle, does it say that while you talk on IRC
[03:14] <Wolfcastle> test34: yes
[03:14] <webbb82> does anyone know if they are still working on screenlets or did something new come along
[03:14] <Xcell> Wolfcastle-  some times ive had to disconnect and re-connect.. some times that works.
[03:14] <lmartin92> good evening, I'm in an Archlinux host and am trying to install Kubuntu. I have it on disk but getting it to load is another story. I want to chroot the ubuntu install in my arch install and manage to fix it up so lvm2 will work, can someone help me or point me in the right direction?
[03:14] <jken146> tecna: try restarting GDM: 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart' (bear in mind that this will kill your GUI session
[03:14] <Xcell> or
[03:14] <tecna> PRIDE: So far I like it aside from a few bugs.
[03:14] <Xcell> its busy
[03:14] <Silver_Swords> PRIDE: it's smarter.  =)
[03:14] <FyreFoX> test34: apt-cache show flashplugin-nonfree, shows Architecture: amd64 Version: 10.0.32.18ubuntu1
[03:14] <jken146> tecna: failing that working, restart and see if the problem persists
[03:15] <PRIDE> tecna, Silver_Swords, thx
[03:15] <jamiewan_> anyone having trouble login to facebook, (Jaunty) my browser FF doesnt want to know about it all of a sudden
[03:15] <FyreFoX> test34: flashplugin-nonfree_10.0.32.18ubuntu1_amd64.deb  << thats 64bit isnt it? *shrug*
[03:15] <preecher> PRIDE, i did the upgrade from 9.04 and havent had any problems other than a couple of programs i had dloaded for some reason disappeared but i just dloaded them again and now all is fine
[03:15] <test34> FyreFoX, yes 64bit version is out now, but not at the same time as ubuntu 8.10
[03:15] <Xcell> jamiewan_-  are cookies enabled?
[03:16] <PRIDE> preecher, thx mind telling me what those programs were tho?
[03:16] <SystemIsBroken> Hi! When the system boot ,It's show me :  One or more of the mounts listed in /etc/fstab cannot yet be mounted (9.04 upgrade 9.10)???   How can I solved it?
[03:16] <FyreFoX> test34: oh ok. well the one i have works quite well
[03:16] <jken146> lmartin92: You can use the ubuntu server/alternate CD (at least one of those) to install ubuntu with an LVM.  See the ubuntu server guide for instructions on LVM.  That's the way I've done it without much trouble.
[03:16] <greg_> Hello -- I hope someone can help. I have an ATI X1200 video card and I really want to upgrade to karmic. I understand kernels greater than 2.6.29 do not support this card, but I want o know if there is some way to install an older version of fglrx on a newer kernel.
[03:16] <linuxmonger> Question about encrypted home folders, On installation, there is a check box, but afterwards, for the second user, I can't find one, any clues?
[03:16] <Nehal> how do i set grub to boot to windows by default? in /etc/default/grub there is a GRUB_DEFAULT=0 line but i dont know what to change it to? how do i find out without rebooting?
[03:16] <test34> FyreFoX, you can pause, rewind fastforward a youtube video?
[03:16] <Roasted> Hey guys - Question. I'm having a problem at the partitioning screen of Karmic. My question is, do Live CDs change? We all know updates can fix things but, do they ever update the Live CDs to fix problems that may reside on the Live CD image itself?
[03:16] <preecher> PRIDE, i had to re-install wireshark and ettercap
[03:17] <FyreFoX> test34: sec, I'll check
[03:17] <jken146> SystemIsBroken: look in /etc/fstab and look at the output of 'mount' and of 'sudo fdisk -l' to figure out which partition(s) are not mounting
[03:17] <Capt_Blackwood> test34, fixed my problem, i turned "button sounds" off
[03:17] <PRIDE> preecher, dont use those so shouldnt affect me much, peace in mind, thx bro
[03:17] <lmartin92> jken146: I have it installed already with the other regular cd and would rather not waste another day downloading a CD due to my slow inet connection, I understand it works and I understand how to make it install to hd. I once made it work but have forgotten how and someone had pointed me in the right direction so I was guessing maybe someone could help
[03:18] <WanHouse> Annonymorse: Hmm, playing a 1024MB vob-file seems to have killed Metacity using Karmic. Playing VOB's was a bit slow (fast-forward etc) in 9.04 but it wasnt this slow. I hope this gets fixed because the rest of the dist is awesome!!! :)
[03:18] <joljam> MenZa: I tried startx but for some reason it does not work
[03:18] <SuperDefenderX> Anyone here find the audio in 9.10 a little wonky?
[03:18] <SystemIsBroken> jken146: I try,Come back later
[03:18] <Annonymorse> WanHouse: 9.04 wouldn't install for me, I'm on 8.04.3
[03:18] <jken146> Roasted: not between releases, no.  The exception is the LTS releases (there are Live CDs for 8.04, 8.04.1 and 8.04.2)
[03:18] <FyreFoX> test34: ah. I cant get to the gui of that machine right now, but I'll later and let you know
[03:18] <test34> Capt_Blackwood, where did you find that ?
[03:18] <webbb82> does anyone know if they are still workin on screenlets or is something better out
[03:18] <tecna> jken146: Appears to have fixed the problem. Thanks for the userdel command. :)
[03:18] <test34> FyreFoX, ok
[03:19] <TheCheeze> PRIDE, what audio card do you have?
[03:19] <Roasted> jken146 - oh man... that's a big problem then...
[03:19] <lmartin92> jken146: I even have an older kernel that half works but doesn't load some odd encryption support that I need for the new installation
[03:19] <WanHouse> Annonymorse: Oh, hmm... ok. Im actually feeling a bit speechless for once :)
[03:19] <joljam> MenZa: The message that I am getting is: unable to connect tox server
[03:19] <joljam> to x  server
[03:19] <test34> Capt_Blackwood, I mean where can you disable that?
[03:19] <TheCheeze> a lot of people, myself included, are having problems with crackling and speed on our audio notifications
[03:19] <Annonymorse> WanHouse: how come?
[03:19] <jken146> lmartin92: ok, so you've already installed ubuntu?  Just follow the LVM instructions in the server guide then (boot into ubuntu to do this and it should work)
[03:19] <Morydd> jken146: no change
[03:19] <Morydd> since upgrading to 9.10, flash is not working in FF3.5 It is installed, but doesn't show up in FF's list of add-ons. Any suggestions?
[03:19] <lmartin92> jken146: ok
[03:20] <Daveycal> i want to do a fresh install of both windows and ubuntu... is there any problem with doing ubuntu first and leaving a partition for windows, then doing windows later?
[03:20] <jken146> Roasted: why, what's your actual problem?
[03:20] <WanHouse> Annonymorse: I upgrade more or less as soon as a new upgrade is out. Ive never been dissapointed.
[03:20] <test34> I was having sound problems on boot but since I did a fesh install it works fine
[03:20] <trism> Daveycal: windows will overwrite grub, so you'll need to fix grub after you install
[03:20] <scunizi> Daveycal: you're better off doing it the other way around
[03:21] <Annonymorse> WanHouse: well I'm glad it's worked for you, I get segfaults on my 9.04 disc even though the md5 hash was correct for the iso
[03:21] <Daveycal> trism: so i should re-install windows and then ubuntu
[03:21] <Xcell> depending hardware  some times upgrading works  some times not
[03:21] <Phenomenon> Where could i download the ubottu code?
[03:21] <Roasted> jken146 - I have 4 drives in my system. When I boot to 9.04 and manually edit the partitions, I see all 4 drives. In 9.10, I don't. It's very strange. I installed 9.10 and decided to try and addt hem to fstab but that was a disaster - fstab has an issue to be worked out in 9.10 it seems (several other users confirmed the same problem).
[03:21] <WanHouse> Annonymorse: Sure, some things could be more perfect but i feel they are getting very close to "HOT" :)
[03:21] <jken146> Daveycal: Do windows first, then ubuntu.  This will avoid bootloader problems and a lot of grief if you don't know what you're doing.
[03:21] <Daveycal> ok then for a shared folder (for both filesystems) what is the best format
[03:21] <WanHouse> Annonymorse: 64 arch or bad ram ?
[03:21] <Phenomenon> Where could i download the ubottu code?
[03:21] <Roasted> jken146 - fstab issues can be fixed with a patch later. Okay fine. But what about the live cd? I'd like to be able to not only DETECT my drives but also mount them to the corresponding directories. 9.10 didn't even pick up my 2 250gb drives, and theyre just normal SATA drives.
[03:21] <mbrigdan> Is there a reason that upgrading to 9.10 wants to remove selinux and install apache? (Neither of which I want)
[03:22] <jken146> Roasted: sudo fdisk -l   <-- that doesn't show them?
[03:22] <WanHouse> Annonymorse: 10 years ago i refused to think new ram could be faulty. Believe me it can.
[03:22] <Roasted> jken146 - it sure does. That's why I'm so confused...
[03:22] <Annonymorse> WanHouse: It was the 32bit version, but judging from the age and abuse of this machine, it's probably bad ram
[03:22] <joljam> I flushed out windows 7 and installed Karmic on my HP Pavilion bt for some reason when I boot it it stops at th ee command prompt
[03:22] <Xcell> corsair ftw
[03:22] <Roasted> jken146 - I have to do more testing later. Currently Im back on 9.04 and getting my drives to ext4 file systems. But it was very weird....
[03:22] <alexb92> hey guys is there a way to backup ur packages and stuff for further use?
[03:22] <Roasted> jken146 - thats what I get for installing an OS that (at the time) was 2 hours old :P
[03:22] <Annonymorse> WanHouse: dell inspiron 7500
[03:22] <WanHouse> Annonymorse: I have a few kilos of sdram. If only i could FAX it to you :=)
[03:22] <alexb92> im trying to fix up a corrupt instal of 9.04 so i can upgrade
[03:23] <WanHouse> Ah
[03:23] <test34> WanHouse, 10 years ago they were testing it, now they just sell it right off the production line from china
[03:23] <Bluey> alexb92: it's best to prolly backup critical data then start over
[03:23] <jken146> Roasted: It *should* have worked :p  Use a more stable distro if you don't like this sort of thing (Debian)
[03:23] <ska178> i cannot update ubuntu..i get this error   W:Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/karmic-updates/universe/source/Sources  404 Not Found [IP: 130.239.18.165 80]
[03:23] <ska178> , W:Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/karmic-updates/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages  404 Not Found [IP: 130.239.18.165 80]
[03:23] <ska178> , E:Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[03:23] <WanHouse> test34: Its cheap though.
[03:23] <greg_> could someone please provide advice for irc. I am new to irc -- tried 3-4 times to ask questions but I never receive a response. It it difficult to watch all of the conversations fly by and keep track of all. I assume I must not be following proper etiquette... willing to do what is necessary, but I'm feeling a little lost. I just want Ubuntu to work with my ATI x1200 series card (no longer supported in kernels above 2.2.29)
[03:24] <Roasted> jken146 - why would I want to do something foolish like that? :P
[03:24] <TheCheeze> anyone know of a fix for the crackling noise on karmic without removing pulse?
[03:24] <test34> WanHouse, yes, that's what almost everybody wants;|
[03:24] <alexb92> bluey : mate ive downloaded tons of packages and i just wanna backup those and reinstall
[03:24] <Roasted> jken146 - nothing against debian, but I've tried like 30 different distros and ended up back on Ubuntu each time. Its solid, stable, easy to use, etc. Its just what I get for installing a distro version that was so young.
[03:24] <fizzle> anyone familiar with the 9.10 powerpc release? the alternate cd wont detect my hard drive
[03:25] <Bluey> alexb92: whats preventing you from backing up?
[03:25] <jken146> greg_: It can be hard at first, especially in this channel, which moves really really fast.  Try ubuntuforums.org perhaps or just persevere here -- there may be no one on who knows the answer!
[03:25] <alexb92> bluey : i dont really wanna redownload everything, my bandwidth isnt the bestt
[03:25] <Roasted> jken146 - Im sure when debian pumps out a new version theyre not 100% problem proof :P
[03:25] <joljam> someone hel me with Karmic installation
[03:25] <Bluey> alexb92: what do you mean re-download everything?
[03:25] <alexb92> bluey : is there just a way to backup packages and reinstall them once ive donee the system files?
[03:25] <WanHouse> test34: In contrast, it very well is. But the most expensive RAM can also be broken. I ordered a few of those as well.
[03:25] <jken146> Roasted: ok, cool, whatever works best for you.  Debian stable is *very* stable though (after all, that is the point)
[03:25] <Bluey> alexb92: not that I know --
[03:25] <jken146> Roasted: but that's off-topic isn't it
[03:25] <ska178> is anyone else having a problem downloading the packages when trying to update ubuntu to karmic?
[03:26] <ska178> through the update manager that is
[03:26] <jrjackso> hey,just upgraded my mythbuntu box to karmic 9.10.. lirc not working - no /dev/lirc0 device . Any ideas?
[03:26] <luller> Hello, I seem to be having a strange issue with Ubuntu 9.10 Live USB.  Ubuntu seems to be turning my brightness up and down like crazy, by itself, and I can't seem to get it to stop.  Any ideas?
[03:26] <Roasted> jken146 - we dont wanna get yelled at for being off topic when talking about linux in a linux chat. (I know how that goes in here)
[03:26] <WanHouse> test34: Crusial ECC for example can also be broken.
[03:26] <Bluey> joljam: what's up?
[03:26] <drakeman> hey good evening guys
[03:26] <WanHouse> evenin
[03:27] <test34> WanHouse, yeah price isnt everything either... luckily I haven't had any bad RAM yet
[03:27] <Bluey> alexb92: at some point you have to bite the bullet, and start over to go forward - I've had to do that many times with many things in my life.
[03:27] <jken146> alexb92: yes.  Copy all the .deb package files from /var/cache/apt/archives somewhere and put them back there in your fresh install, then use apt to install what you want, and it won't have to download them all again (unless there are newer versions available of course)
[03:27] <alexb92> bluey : as in download all the packages again once ive upgraded to 9.10
[03:27] <luller> ...and it just stopped.  Nevermind, apparently.
[03:27] <Bluey> alexb92: good luck with that...
[03:27] <joljam> Bluey: I got a new HP Pavilion today.. it had WIndows 7 in it.. I flushed out Windows 7 and installed Karmic... but when I rebooted after finishing the install, I can restart and come to the command prompt and not any further
[03:27] <jken146> Roasted: I was OT talking about debian.  Now, where were we with your ubuntu trouble?
[03:27] <WanHouse> test34: Ive had plenty. If i get computers that are perfect hardware wise ill be very happy. (Almost never happens)
[03:28] <jken146> joljam: Did you get any errors?
[03:28] <alexb92> cheers guys, will give that a whirl
[03:28] <abhiroopb> Need some help with Bash: basically I have a very simple script that executes a very long rsync command. Instead of putting it all in one line (and it looking very messy) is there anyway to put each command on a new line? When I hit ENTER to put it on a new line and try and run the script the script fails to run (although when I don't hit enter it runs fine). Thanks
[03:28] <WanHouse> test34: Say you order 50000 computers or so.
[03:28] <Bluey> joljam: private message ok?
[03:28] <drakeman> hey guys, i have a little question hope you guys can help me actually im using debian testing, but the flash player with youtube videos really sucks, looks really slow  and i dont know because i saw some videos of ubuntu 9.10 and looks great, how is the flash video player like youtube in ubuntu? the videos run smooth?
[03:28] <greg_> jken146: thanks for responding! by persevere, should I continue to repeat my question occasionally as people constantly drop out and new people arrive... or is this just considered rude?
[03:28] <Roasted> jken146 - not sure if theres anything that can be trouble-shot now. I'm on 9.04. Figured Id give 9.10 a few weeks before I try it again.
[03:28] <quiescens> abhiroopb: you can put \ at the end of a line to indicate that it continues on the next line
[03:29] <test34> WanHouse, I only had a couple bad HD in 20 years
[03:29] <abhiroopb> thanks!
[03:29] <jken146> abhiroopb: yes.  the first line should say #!/bin/bash and then you put each command on a new line
[03:29] <Ds7opia> anyone havin issue with sudo apt-get install libglib1.2-dev
[03:29] <WanHouse> test34: IBM or Intel i say, to keep them running for a while.
[03:29] <jken146> greg_: you can do, but this can be annoying if you do it too often.  BTW, what is wrong?~
[03:29] <pblchai> hello anyone helpme to do ecercitation, itsmatematical, how much is 10111100 + 00010101 ???
[03:29] <Jarlaxle> I just upgraded to 9.10 and my plug-in mic isn't working at all. Can anyone help?
[03:29] <WanHouse> test34: Those usually break after some usage
[03:29] <pblchai> binary +
[03:29] <Ds7opia> i upgraded from 8.04 to 9.10 , my glx is finaly working
[03:30] <WanHouse> test34: IBM-DFT rocks then.
[03:30] <abhiroopb> jken146: yes the first line does say that. Basically its just one long terminal command. When I put it on different lines it executes each line as a separate command. But, I think quiescens solution should work
[03:30] <scunizi> pblchai: check in #math
[03:30] <pblchai> its a chanel?
[03:30] <WanHouse> test34: Its a drive test but can also fix them
[03:30] <drakeman> any advises about the flash plugin in ubuntu?
[03:30] <sevenless> Update finished, and 9.10 is great, it fixed my flash problem in firefox and looks better
[03:30] <tonyyarusso> What's the current method of setting up wireless with WPA2 on a command line system?
[03:30] <Ds7opia> drake, im installin flash right now for firefox
[03:31] <alexb92> jken146: is there any other directories where apps and packages are stored so i can back them up too?
[03:31] <jken146> Roasted: it's the disks not being recognised is it?  That's happened to me in the past when I've changed kernels.  You could try to upgrade from jaunty to karmic directly later on, when it's (hopefully) fixed -- no need for a Cd
[03:31] <WanHouse> test34: Its like a DOS CD /LOL, but it does the job right.
[03:31] <greg_> jken146: I want to upgrade to Karmic but I had an ATI X1200 series graphics card, which is not supported in kernels 2.6.29 and greater. I am hoping for a way to install an older fglrx so I can make this work.
[03:31] <jrjackso> looking for some help with lirc (no /dev/lirc0 after installing karmic) /msg plz
[03:31] <WanHouse> Sector/Nibble copy
[03:31] <webbb82> so no one knows what replaced screenlets
[03:31] <WanHouse> They let you in didnt they ?
[03:31] <trism> tonyyarusso: wpa_supplicant
[03:32] <WanHouse> :)
[03:32] <drakeman> Ds7opia,  ok, i hope you can give me a feedback if you play a video in youtube to see if the video runs smooth.
[03:32] <test34> WanHouse, nowadays you need bloated software to get the job done
[03:32] <drakeman> beacuse in my debian sucks: (
[03:32] <Roasted> jken146 - it wouldnt be a problem if I could edit Fstab to mount my drives by UUID. But karmic was just acting very very weird. Having other users confirm the same thing just made me think I jumped the gun too soon. So I'm sticking with 9.04 for a few weeks till I hear 9.10 settles down, at least in the fstab department. Other than that I hear great things about it.
[03:32] <DesertEagle> ok so... any clues as to why VLC launches but won't appear?
[03:32] <droid> how do I make some text-x-(filetype) files stop getting their text rendered in the icon?
[03:32] <preecher> webbb82,  i still have swcreenlets
[03:32] <tonyyarusso> trism: No friendlier method, like a cli network-manager eh?  Okie dokie.
[03:32] <Ds7opia> alright, ill let u know, im just install in the package dep.
[03:32] <droid> DesertEagle, did you run it from a terminal?
[03:32] <module000> WanHouse: supporting in here an hour a week is like 50 hours at the soupkitchen
[03:32] <DesertEagle> droid: yup
[03:32] <WanHouse> test34: However, check memtest ;)
[03:32] <D3RGPS31> I just installed ubuntu 9.10 (unteenth time) and noticed there's no xorg.conf; whenever i installed fglrx drivers i would get a blank/black screen during splash, freezing; reconfiguring xorg didn't help
[03:32] <jken146> alexb92: there are configuration files all over the place.  If you want to preserve your current setup, it's best to upgrade rather than doing a fresh install.
[03:32] <megamanx1978> Shouldn't envy work for your ati drivers greg?
[03:32] <DesertEagle> droid: googled the output... no luck :(
[03:33] <WanHouse> module000: I wouldnt know. Im a government official.
[03:33] <alexb92> jken146: cant tried lol
[03:33] <test34> Wanderer, memtest... I will try it next time I reboot
[03:33] <module000> WanHouse: i gave back my camo in '02
[03:33] <WanHouse> Sweet!
[03:33] <jken146> Roasted: ok, fair enough.  I suppose you've tried editing fstab from a live CD
[03:33] <pblchai> i think the answer its a 11010001
[03:33] <Ds7opia> sudo apt-get install libglib1.2-dev - anyone havin issues?
[03:33] <WanHouse> module000 <- Owner lost a red golf-cart somewhere ?
[03:33] <module000> D3RGPS31: you do not have a xorg.conf at /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[03:34] <D3RGPS31> module000: none
[03:34] <module000> WanHouse: hrm..not that i know of
[03:34] <WanHouse> Neetoe!
[03:34] <module000> D3RGPS31: that's not normal, why don't you run the dpkg config to gen one
[03:34] <quiescens> module000: actually no xorg.conf is normal
[03:34] <quiescens> by default anyway
[03:35] <scunizi> module000: D3RGPS31 not much goes in it anyway.. xrandr handles video now..
[03:35] <D3RGPS31> :< it needs to handle it better
[03:35] <Xcell> you have to create 1
[03:35] <seme> my god!!!! irc without join leave messages is all of a sudden usable ;)
[03:35] <greg_> megamanx1978: envyng would install only the most recent ATI drivers (9.10), which does not support my X1200 card.
[03:36] <module000> quiescens: i still see the config script for xserver-xorg here in the package for 9.10 though, and it writes a xorg.conf
[03:36] <test34> some developer should look at this bug, the solution is listed: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/372843
[03:36] <pblchai> como se dice cuenta matematica en ingles?
[03:36] <Roasted> jken146 - I have not tried that. I just decided to bag that idea cause my computer also acts as a file server, so I kinda need it running, and to have fstab giving me a headache when that same fstab (I have it backed up) works on every other known version of ubuntu to man, well....
[03:37] <alyaji> Installed Ubuntu on a different physical drive than Windows. Now GRUB only give me the option to start up with Ubuntu. I want to have the option to start with windows. Can anyone help?
[03:37] <seme> pblchai, count or account mathematica
[03:38] <dassouki> any ideas on stk11xx webcam on ubuntu 9.10 ?
[03:38] <Xcell> slya set the drive to master
[03:38] <Xcell> alyaji-
[03:38] <quiescens> it can exist if its required, but not having an xorg.conf doesn't neccesarily mean anything is wrong
[03:38] <pblchai> thank you seme
[03:38] <D3RGPS31> any idea on why i get a blank/black screen and freeze after splash; after install fglrx drivers on a fresh install of ubuntu 9.10
[03:38] <mediadata> hi guys...
[03:39] <alyaji> yes Xcell
[03:39] <mediadata> can i join 2 isp to up bw ?
[03:39] <seme> yo creo que usted entender "accounting"
[03:39] <jken146> alyaji: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/add-windows-xp-entry-to-grub-434986/
[03:39] <WanHouse> mediadata: RockNRoll, Rock and Roll.
[03:39] <seme> pero me espanol no es bueno
[03:39] <mediadata> WanHouse: you mean ?
[03:39] <jken146> !es | seme
[03:39] <webbb82> what do you guys think about superkaramba
[03:39] <poyntz> hi folks, I just upgraded to karmic koala and it screwed up in boot. can't even open up a console. help!!!
[03:40] <WanHouse> mediadata: Be well and prosper ?
[03:40] <alyaji> Thank you jken146. Will check right away
[03:40] <WanHouse> Iunno
[03:40] <jken146> poyntz: Can you give more details?  Can you boot in recovery mode?
[03:40] <poyntz> Im dual booting with dreamlinux, which is why you see me here now :/
[03:40] <mediadata> WanHouse: i have 2 connection internet and i want to joint it
[03:40] <seme> jken146, I am an english speaking person... just trying to help out pblchai
[03:40] <mediadata> WanHouse: more faster
[03:40] <Phenomenon> Where might i download the ubottu code?
[03:40] <jken146> seme: oh, sorry.
[03:40] <greg_> D3RGPS31: Have you checked to see if your ATI card is still supported by the latest fglrx? My card is not longer supported in kernels 2.6.29 and later, so I also experience problems. You might try the non-proprietary drivers (but 3D will suffer).
[03:40] <poyntz> jken146: nope dreamlinux runs the boot screen
[03:40] <WanHouse> mediadata: 1 server, several clients ?
[03:41] <mediadata> 1 server
[03:41] <D3RGPS31> greg_: it is
[03:41] <scunizi> !bot | Phenomenon
[03:41] <webbb82> are there any widget engines that still maintain and make new widgets??????????
[03:41] <WanHouse> mediadata: Hai! fast, sexxi no ? :)
[03:41] <Phenomenon> I know
[03:41] <braggdt> me too
[03:41] <D3RGPS31> greg_: ATI R HD 4850
[03:41] <Phenomenon> where do i download it
[03:41] <poyntz> jken146: as in, all the recovery options it gives me are for dreamlinux (i didn't mean to do this when I fiddled with the partitions, but yeah...
[03:41] <WanHouse> Kids these days, funny as ever
[03:41] <mediadata> WanHouse: you mean sexxi ?
[03:41] <c64zottel> hello, i upgraded from 9.04 to 9.10, and now, when i try to start, the splash shows up, for few seconds and then the console shows up with busyBox and a propmt initramfs, what can i do?
[03:41] <jken146> poyntz: try reinstalling grub then (you can do this in dreamlinux)
[03:41] <WanHouse> mediadata: Hai!
[03:42] <mediadata> WanHouse, hai...
[03:42] <poyntz> jken146: how do I do that? - and would I be running the risk of smashing the dreamlinux distro as well?
[03:42] <c64zottel> there is written that the disk/by-uuid/some number does not exist
[03:42] <greg_> D3RGPS31: Have you tried installing the ATI drivers directly from their website rather than from repositories? I have read o other people having success this way.
[03:43] <D3RGPS31> greg_: yes, video playback is choppy
[03:43] <WanHouse> mediadata: Robert Gustavsson rocks! :)
[03:43] <seme> is anyone else having problems using flash on ubuntu 9.10?
[03:44] <Xcell> ok WanHouse
[03:44] <jken146> poyntz: you could mess it up, yes, but it would be fixable with a live CD.  I think 9.10 uses grub version 2, which might give you trouble when sharing with another distro.  It will definitely be fixable!  You should look up reinstalling grub.
[03:44] <seme> I can play video but can't use the buttons
[03:44] <module000> seme: free or non-free flash?
[03:44] <greg_> D3RGPS31: I can not even get my X1200 card to work with the new fglrx, so I am probably not much help then -- sorry.
[03:44] <D3RGPS31> :<
[03:44] <dublued2> Hello all
[03:44] <pblchai> como se dice al fin en ingles?
[03:44] <seme> I am using adobe flash but if they both work I don't have any preference
[03:45] <poyntz> jken146: i failed to mention that I don't have xserver on dreamlinux (i screwed it up LOL). but if I can find some tutorial that makes it explicit in e-links i'm good. would there be one out there?
[03:45] <scunizi> pblchai: google has a translator
[03:45] <module000> seme: about:plugins in firefox, make sure you aren't using the open source flashtrash
[03:45] <drakeman> pblchai,  end,
[03:45] <drakeman> seme,  how is your flash plugin performance
[03:45] <jken146> poyntz: you can't really do it in a GUI
[03:45] <jken146> !grub
[03:45] <seme> it says shockwave flash
[03:45] <seme> I think thats adobe
[03:46] <seme> performance is not great... it plays video but it had to stop many times to buffer... also the buttons won't work
[03:46] <Bluey> !hcl
[03:46] <WanHouse> Xcell: Hows Reeperbahn nowdays ? :=)
[03:46] <Xcell> couldnt tell you
[03:46] <WanHouse> Sazzy
[03:47] <Xcell> im from the 60's era..
[03:47] <julio> hey i've started do-gnome-update
[03:47] <WanHouse> Xcell: Top of the mornin to ya
[03:47] <Xcell> k
[03:47] <julio> should i encomend myself to god?
[03:47] <Xcell> yes
[03:47] <poyntz> jken146: thanks!
[03:47] <julio> my bad
[03:48] <WanHouse> Xcell: Perhaps some more skills has finally entered ?
[03:48] <julio> do-release-upgrade
[03:48] <Xcell> I am in remission
[03:48] <mediadata> how to join 2 connection internet / isp  in 1 ubuntu ?
[03:48] <WanHouse> Xcell: Im trying to quit nicotine... its not very easy
[03:48] <poyntz> jken146: the only difference is, I didn't lose grub when I installed dreamlinux - i've had DL for a while. I lost it when I upgraded to 9.10 in ubuntu. Will the tutorial still be applicable?
[03:48] <Xcell> sue the tobacco industry
[03:49] <WanHouse> Xcell: Im not much for suing anyone but in theory youre correct
[03:49] <jken146> poyntz: I'd hope so -- the docs are meant to be maintained!  I'll have a little look through them
[03:49] <Xcell> and install willpower
[03:49] <Xcell> I stifle.
[03:49] <WanHouse> Xcell: If i get very angry i blow stuf up instead ;)
[03:49] <b0nn> Hi all, I am trying to read an sd card, that I have placed into one of the sd card slots in my Aspire One.  No mention of the card is made in /var/log/messages
[03:49] <b0nn> how do I troubleshoot this?
[03:50] <jken146> b0nn: How about in dmesg?
[03:50] <WanHouse> Xcell: However only in theory.
[03:50] <b0nn> jken146: Doesnt appear to be
[03:50] <redwar> Hello all
[03:51] <b0nn> jken146: no, nothing, only problems with the wifi chip
[03:51] <Lapinux> wow this upgrade is going to take forever
[03:51] <pngwen> b0nn:  What version of ubuntu are you running?
[03:51] <jken146> b0nn: Does the card work in another device?
[03:51] <fizzle> when booting the powerpc 9.10 cd, its not detecting my ide disk. i checked in the lib/modules folder and there are no ide drivers. now im stuck
[03:51] <b0nn> pngwen: NBR
[03:51] <b0nn> jken146: yes, I pulled it from my camera
[03:52] <jken146> fizzle: Does it come up in the output of 'sudo fdisk -l'?
[03:52] <socks4anon> why is sound in linux so crappy and everything else pretty good?
[03:52] <PreZ> ugh ... "Rebuild in progress - 6% Complete - Time Remaining: 84 hr 45 min 12 sec"
[03:52] <WanHouse> Xcell: Have you tried quitting nicotine before ?
[03:52] <mdprotacio> i've got a problem that i don't know how to fix. before i freshly install karmic, whenever i plug in a usb device it is automatically mounted but on karmic it is not the case. hope someone could give me help, please.
[03:52] <jrjackso> just upgrade to 9.10 . previously my remote was working (hauppage wintv go card). now no luck - /dev/lirc0 not created.  help plz?
[03:52] <jken146> b0nn: right.  Do any other cards work in this slot, or did this slot work just before you installed karmic?
[03:53] <b0nn> jken146: I have no other cards to test with, but I have tested this card in both slots of the aspire
[03:53] <fizzle> there is no fdisk in busybox... :s
[03:53] <jken146> socks4anon: Because something has to suck
[03:53] <socks4anon> jken146: Why did they not go with OSS virtualbox is broken without OSS and so is skype.
[03:53] <jken146> b0nn: Is this a new problem with karmic?
[03:54] <Ed54> socks4anon: skype is working perfectly for me with pulse
[03:54] <b0nn> jken146: I don't know, I've never tried this before
[03:54] <mediadata> hi guys...
[03:54] <jken146> socks4anon: I don't know.  You could pester the devs about it I suppose but you won't get very far I don't think
[03:54] <socks4anon> it works but it takes up too much cpu with pulse
[03:54] <WanHouse> Xcell: Seems the best way to subvert the mind is to occupy it alot. Or physical training. However, i have found the best way, and that it to mix the nicotine with pulversized bread (ströbröd in Swedish). Ill post a perfect solution on this theorem later on
[03:54] <socks4anon> and you have to use the new beta version of it has bad memory leaks
[03:54] <jken146> b0nn: OK, I was just trying to see if it was perhaps a hardware issue.
[03:55] <jayanga> hello
[03:55] <Xcell> im being baited.. i can see it.
[03:55] <fizzle> i think that i must have a bad iso. damn wireless ;/
[03:55] <b0nn> jken146: it may well be
[03:55] <jayanga> can some body help me to configure my eclipse in ubuntu 9.10
[03:55] <socks4anon> like most games and stuff wont work while playing music
[03:55] <socks4anon> ect..
[03:55] <WanHouse> Xcell: This mix would also solve a smokers problem, as its much less addictive
[03:55] <bazhang> WanHouse, please desist
[03:55] <mdprotacio>  i've got a problem that i don't know how to fix. before i freshly install karmic, whenever i plug in a usb device it is automatically mounted but on karmic it is not the case. hope someone could give me help, please
[03:55] <socks4anon> i just dont like alsa.. I think OSS makes more sense anyone switched?
[03:55] <high-rez> Is launchpaid pretty hosed at the moment ?
[03:55] <jken146> !ot | WanHouse
[03:55] <WanHouse> ballhang: shut the hell up for gowds sake, please!
[03:56] <Xcell> woops
[03:56] <jimbeam12> anyone use lm-sensors or having problems with it
[03:56] <jken146> mdprotacio: In karmic, does your device show up in the output of 'sudo fdisk -l'  ?
[03:56] <frustratedw910> !torrents
[03:56] <mediadata> how to join 2 usb modem ( 2 connections ) to faster internet ?
[03:56] <mdprotacio> yes
[03:56] <mdprotacio> it does
[03:56] <jken146> mediadata: I don't think this is possible
[03:56] <mdprotacio> whenever i plug it in
[03:56] <dublued2> can i upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10 using the cd and not having to do a clean install?
[03:56] <Juzzy> mediadata: for dialup?
[03:57] <mdprotacio> disk utility can also show the device
[03:57] <mediadata> jken146, so it's can't do it ?
[03:57] <beruchtigte> how can i play wmv with mplayer ?
[03:57] <Juzzy> mediadata: for dialup or cable/dsl?
[03:57] <poyntz> jken146: actually, i should have said that it does get to the login screen for the console. except stuff is flashing all over the place
[03:57] <high-rez> mediadata: I think what you're interested in doing is called multilink ppp...
[03:57] <mdprotacio> but unlike jaunty, the device would not be listed on Places menu and would not be displayed as an icon on the desktop
[03:57] <jken146> mediadata: I don't honestly know.  That's not something I've ever heard of.
[03:57] <mediadata> Juzzy, 2 hsdpa with 2 user different each other
[03:57] <mdprotacio> it seems that i still have to manually mount it somewhere
[03:57] <Xcell> mediadata-  you have to have 2 isp providers for that.. and its not 2 easy.
[03:57] <bderrly> upgrade soo slow...
[03:57] <jken146> poyntz: flashing?  text?
[03:57] <marcelcohrs> i changed my eth0 settings to static
[03:57] <mediadata> high-rez, yes... pp0 + ppp1 maybe to faster
[03:58] <mdprotacio> @jken146 you got my reply?
[03:58] <jken146> mdprotacio: Right.  That's weird, but at least you can mount things manually.
[03:58] <redrebel> why should I upgrade from ubuntu 9.04 to 9.10? my friend said itś basically the same thing
[03:58] <marcelcohrs> how do i restart the networking interface, to apply the changes?
[03:58] <mediadata> high-rez, i have 2 acc in 1 isp
[03:58] <poyntz> jken146: yeah, all the things it loads up
[03:58] <mdprotacio> @jken146 it is very troublesome for me
[03:58] <poyntz> jken146: then when it gets to login
[03:58] <Xgates> for now I'm happy with pekwm, seems to work pretty good
[03:58] <poyntz> jken146: it keeps flashing
[03:58] <mdprotacio> @jken146 it's not supposed to be like that when in jaunty it is not like that
[03:58] <omani> marcelcohrs, easy way is "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart"
[03:58] <poyntz> jken146: and when I try to type in username and password
[03:59] <jken146> mdprotacio: there might be an option in gconf for automounting that is responsible for that.  I can;t think of what else would be doing it.
[03:59] <poyntz> jken146: it causes me to miss letters
[03:59] <poyntz> jken146: for example, c and r
[03:59] <maf2> #u
[03:59] <poyntz> jken146: so I can't actually log in
[03:59] <jken146> poyntz: how weird.  If I were you, I'd reinstall I think
[03:59] <mdprotacio> @jken146 would you know exactly how?
[03:59] <poyntz> jken146: how would I do that?
[03:59] <high-rez> mediadata: You won't be able to do that easily with HSDPA/UMTS/EDGE/GPRS. When you create a PDP Context, while it will be PPP - the other end needs to support multilink PPP- and I doubt the remote ends supports that.  Besides, the speed of the connection is probably limited on the Gi/Gn side.
[03:59] <maf2> hi all
[03:59] <jken146> mdprotacio: no.  Look in gconf-editor, or google it even!
[04:00] <mdprotacio> @jken146 ok thanks
[04:00] <ian_mac> mediadata, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=481961
[04:00] <Arsin> Hey, my mouse isn't functioning. It starts for 10s then stops anyone have this problem?
[04:00] <poyntz> jken146: or do you mean I should scrap the ubuntu partition and install a fresh?
[04:00] <arquebus> !urt
[04:00] <jken146> poyntz: just get a ubuntu CD (do the CD integrity check) and install ubuntu again
[04:00] <ian_mac> mediadata, http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?s=343a315af06c2c3196a948b492b1967d&p=2909885&postcount=4 in particular
[04:01] <mediadata> ian_mac, i go there... thx...
[04:01] <poyntz> jken146: is there any way I could get my files back ? :/
[04:01] <ian_mac> disclaimer - never tried or attempted
[04:01] <ian_mac> just found it on google
[04:01] <jken146> poyntz: yes, sure.  If you can boot from the live CD you should be able to mount your partitions there and copy files somewhere safe.
[04:01] <poyntz> jken146: actually. don't answer that. i'll try to mount it, copy the files to an ext HD, then ask if I get stuck
[04:02] <marcelcohrs> how do i start the  mysql service ?
[04:02] <marcelcohrs> i installed lamp
[04:02] <jken146> marcelcohrs: sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start
[04:02] <jimbeam12> anyone having problems with lm-sensors
[04:02] <high-rez> ian_mac:He's tryiung to use HSDPA devices.  Even if it were technically possible to multilink those (i dont think it is), the performance issue is almost always between the tower and the GGSN (e.g. congested link).
[04:02] <marcelcohrs> thx jken
[04:03] <jken146> !mysql | marcelcohrs
[04:03] <dublued2> is there a way to do a distribution upgrade using the cdrom?
[04:03] <ian_mac> well, that post mentioned that you couldn't multilink with HSDPA
[04:03] <ian_mac> but
[04:03] <jken146> dublued2: yes.  You can use the alternate CD to du that without having to use an internet connection
[04:03] <marcelcohrs> thx u bottu ;)
[04:03] <dublued2> jken146:  thanks, so i assume the standard live cd cannot do that
[04:03] <mattgyver> anybody have conky randomly dissapear, or crash in 9.10??
[04:04] <jken146> dublued2: nope
[04:04] <ian_mac> it did suggest other solutions.  I'm not claiming it will work, just reporting what I found.  I figure he is able to evaluate on his own and make his own decision as to whether or not to try it
[04:04] <dublued2> jken146: thanks
[04:04] <mediadata> ian_mac, that's clue ?
[04:04] <ian_mac> you never know until you try :)
[04:04] <marcelcohrs> does the lastest ubuntu server version come with a ftp server?
[04:04] <jken146> dublued2: although you can just do a fresh install with a live CD
[04:04] <marcelcohrs> 910
[04:04] <jken146> marcelcohrs: yes, several.  See the server guide
[04:04] <jken146> !server | marcelcohrs
[04:04] <marcelcohrs> link, please
[04:04] <marcelcohrs> oh cool
[04:05] <poyntz> jken146: actually. if it helps, everything starts flashing midway through boot (once I've selected an OS). Is there any suggestion you could make on what the problem might be?
[04:05] <poyntz> jken146: I can pastebin files if need be
[04:05] <ian_mac> mediadata, the post I linked to mentioned two solutions - one using shorewall, and the other using some other setup.  It is apparently rather complicated to setup and the recommendation seems to be that you should know your networking very well
[04:05] <mattgyver> Is there a way to force a user not to show up within the GDM selection screen?
[04:05] <jken146> poyntz: not really, sorry
[04:05] <Lapinux> only 1 day 14 hrs left to download all files for my upgrade, woo hoo
[04:06] <Lapinux> im sure everyone is updating :)
[04:06] <poyntz> jken146: thanks anyhow
[04:06] <poyntz> Lapinux: hopefully it doesn't corrupt your OS like it did mine
[04:06] <C1S4n7> hola!!!!!!!111
[04:06] <C1S4n7> como estan todos aqui
[04:06] <jken146> mattgyver: yes, there must be.  There are many users that don't show up (just look in /etc/passwd to see how many there are).  I don't know how though
[04:06] <high-rez> mediadata: Have at it - but I think you'll just be wasting your time.  Your performance bottleneck on HSDPA is almost due to two things: 1) radio idle and 2) congestion on the Gn side of the network.  You can't solve 2, but 1 can be solved by keeping a ping going in the background.  That's my experience, at least.
[04:06] <poyntz> !spanish | C1S4n7
[04:07] <C1S4n7> lol
[04:07] <C1S4n7> sorry
[04:07] <mattgyver> jken146, yeah i have a number of false users w/o permission to login to X for samba shares, however they appear in my GDM list and its killing me :)
[04:07] <Lapinux> poyntz: im upgrading from 9.10 beta, havent done much to the system, what were you updating from?
[04:07] <Ds7opia> do i need ubuntu 9.10 alt for raid 0
[04:07] <Ds7opia> on /
[04:07] <poyntz> Lapinux: 9.04
[04:07] <mediadata> high-rez, hmmm... my friend success combine with dlink hardware
[04:08] <jken146> Ds7opia: I think you do, yes
[04:08] <Ds7opia> will it work with normal version mdadm
[04:08] <ppotter> Right, I found out about Brasero being broke in 9.10, but is Gnomebaker working ok?
[04:08] <Ds7opia> i already installed os without raid
[04:08] <Lapinux> poyntz: did you backup your important stuff?
[04:08] <mediadata> high-rez, he test with speedtest get up to 2mb ( 1 isp 2 acc, 1 acc have up 1mb )
[04:08] <greg_> ...giving up for now (again) :(. Apparently I am not asking the proper questions for ATI support in Ubuntu or no one here has the answer... will try the forums. Thanks anyway.
[04:08] <v4vijayakumar> upgraded to 9.10. no restart required ? wow, linux rocks. :)
[04:08] <oblenob> Hi
[04:08] <Jaredu> eh?
[04:09] <Jaredu> ati?
[04:09] <tonyyarusso> Okay, so I'm trying to configure wpa_supplicant, but I keep getting "No suitable AP found" - any idea what I may be doing wrong?
[04:09] <oblenob> just upgraded to 9.10
[04:09] <Ds7opia> lol
[04:09] <Ds7opia> me2
[04:09] <oblenob> and now I can't work
[04:09] <poyntz> Lapinux: nope :/
[04:09] <Jaredu> greg_ what kind of support are you looking for
[04:09] <Ds7opia> upgraded from 8.04
[04:09] <oblenob> I do graphics for a living
[04:09] <Ds7opia> big change
[04:09] <oblenob> 3d
[04:09] <poyntz> Lapinux: I can still mount Ubuntu through DL
[04:09] <Lapinux> poyntz: bummer, im sure you will next time right?  ;)
[04:09] <oblenob> and blender wilnae run
[04:09] <CodeNinja> I'm having problems getting my wifes laptop to move display to an external LCD, I was getting help in #xorg with this, but because the X version is so old, there was not much more help than what I've gotten, I can paste the xorg conf and log if needed, but I'm getting 'screen(s) found, but no usable configuration found' when starting x with X -config /etc/X11/xorg.conf, any suggestions?
[04:09] <Lapinux> poyntz: i would
[04:09] <oblenob> nor will any opengl related thing
[04:09] <oblenob> or compositing
[04:09] <poyntz> Lapinux: so the files aren't a problem, it's just annoying I have to redownload a live CD of Karmic :/
[04:09] <ppotter> Gnomebaker jammed on 1 min and 99% when trying to blank a CD.
[04:09] <jken146> mattgyver: try this http://forum.nginx.org/read.php?26,15228,15636#msg-15636 for disabling the list altogether
[04:09] <Wolfcastle> hello
[04:10] <Wolfcastle> how can I upgrade jaunty to 9.10 in a terminal?
[04:10] <nikos_> just clean upgraded (and installed xchat..) and bought a webcam. I'm not new with ubuntu, but i don't know hot to use my webcam with them.. i already got a picture from vlc, but when i tryed again, it says "Your input can't be opened:
[04:10] <nikos_> VLC is unable to open the MRL 'v4l2://'. Check the log for details."
[04:10] <mdprotacio> @jken146 the problem still persist on my usb
[04:10] <mesa> how do you upgrade safely?
[04:10] <greg_> Jaredu: I have an ATI X1200 card, which is no longer supported in kernels 2.6.29 and greater. I want to upgrade to Karmic.
[04:10] <high-rez> mediadata: Have at it.  I don't personally believe it, based on my experience.  Your HSDPA radio, btw supports 3.6 megabit or 7.2 megabit.  He could be just using a single radioat once and getting those speeds.
[04:10] <poyntz> Lapinux: but yeah, just in case lol
[04:10] <Lapinux> poyntz: ;)
[04:10] <oblenob> Anyone able to help me?
[04:10] <jken146> greg_: It's probably just that no one here knows how to help you -- sorry we can't be of more assistance!
[04:10] <oblenob> even just point me in the right direction of getting some kind of error code
[04:10] <mdprotacio> @jken146 the usb device is still not automatically mounted even when enabling it on gconf-editor
[04:10] <greg_> Jaredu: thanks for the response!  will try the forumns
[04:10] <mattgyver> jken146, great article thanks
[04:11] <poyntz> Lapinux: I keep making the mistake of thinking that Ubuntu is forward compatible. Gets me every time...
[04:11] <Jaredu> greg_ have you checked to see if there's an official driver on the ATI site? I don't see how it's no longer supporte.d..
[04:11] <Jaredu> greg_ no prob dude :\ wish I could be a bit more help lol
[04:11] <ppotter> Gnomebaker has blanked the CD! It's just somewhat odd that it appears to freeze rather than giving you the running progress.
[04:11] <greg_> Jaredu: yes, ATI list my card as legacy, with no support. Too bad, as it is integrated in a system board I purchased only 2 years ago :(
[04:11] <jken146> mdprotacio: hmm, did you change anything in gconf?
[04:12] <poyntz> Lapinux: I started on Hardy. Upgraded to Intrepid stuffed things up. and now from Jaunty to Karmic, things are being stuffed up. The funny thing is when I upgraded to Jaunty from Intrepid all my problems were fixed LOL!
[04:12] <mdprotacio> not really coz media-automount is already enabled
[04:12] <Jaredu> greg_ ouch... :( They weren't supporting the mobility HD 2600 a few months ago, but recently released a driver, so there's probably still hope. (the card has been out for ages)
[04:12] <wolf23> Wolfcastle,  sudo apt-get install update-manager && sudo do_release_upgrade
[04:13] <jken146> mdprotacio: I don't know how it works beyond that level.  Sorry.
[04:13] <mdprotacio> @jken146 thanks :D
[04:13] <greg_> Jaredu: I had thought maybe there would be some way to use the older fglrx drivers with kernel 2.6.31 or later, so I could use Karmic. Emails to ATI were no help, so I was brought here.
[04:13] <jimbeam12> hi
[04:13] <BlackenHysteria> O.O
[04:13] <jimbeam12> anyone using lm sensors
[04:13] <Wolfcastle> wolf23: I have update manager installed but it's now working for some reason...was looking for an alternative
[04:13] <Concretesledge> whats that new GNOME gui
[04:13] <Concretesledge> called
[04:14] <wolf23> Wolfcastle,  ok
[04:14] <EruditeHermit> hi, can anyone help me speed up my boot? Karmic seems to have tripled my boot time. http://imagebin.org/69558
[04:14] <Jaredu> greg_ couldn't you downgrade the kernel? on my vaio P I am running a much older kernel with 9.04 because the drivers were broken, unless there were some super big changes for 9.10 i assume you could do something similar
[04:14] <module000> Wolfcastle: an alternative to update?
[04:14] <mediadata> high-rez, thx...
[04:14] <jken146> greg_: might be less hassle to scavenge a newer graphics card from somewhere.  It doesn't have to be *that* new by any means!
[04:14] <Wolfcastle> module000: yes, i think i read that you can upgrade with apt-get?
[04:15] <Random832> !torrents
[04:15] <module000> Wolfcastle: yes, that's the way update manager uses anyway
[04:15] <Random832> so are you supposed to use the torrent in preference to downloading the upgrade from the online package repositories?
[04:15] <Wolfcastle> ok, well maybe it gives me some more info on why it's failing
[04:15] <module000> Wolfcastle: it's apt-get install dist-upgrade, check apt-get --help for details
[04:15] <module000> Wolfcastle: sorry, it's 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'
[04:15] <mesa> how do you upgrade safely?
[04:16] <mesa> last time I upgraded and my machine was all messed up
[04:16] <greg_> jken146: I agree -- that *might* be easier. my problem is I am living in Taiwan and I don't speak Chinese well. So, even though most of these cards are designed here, I can't even get the guy at the computer store to understand what a graphics card is. LOL
[04:16] <Wolfcastle> module000: ok thanx
[04:16] <mesa> how do you upgrade safely?
[04:16] <mesa> last time I upgraded and my machine was all messed up
[04:16] <jken146> Random832: no, you can upgrade with apt or you can do a clean install.  up to you.  The command for an upgrade is 'do-release-upgrade'
[04:16] <jken146> greg_: lol.  Take your old card in perhaps?
[04:16] <Random832> i was wondering if the topic was meant to imply you should use the torrent and use apt-cdrom rather than downloading all the packages from a mirror
[04:17] <Wolfcastle> weird, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade doesn't install anything
[04:17] <Random832> Wolfcastle, you probably still have the old version in the sources.list
[04:17] <juken> Is the 9.10 iso for i386 install 9.04 for anyone else?
[04:17] <oblenob> Hello?
[04:17] <Wolfcastle> Random832: ah, i have to change the version there ok thanx
[04:17] <nikos_> how can i use a webcam i just bought and plugged in?
[04:17] <jken146> Wolfcastle: do-release-upgrade is what you want
[04:18]  * Random832 is just using the gui update manager
[04:18] <Wolfcastle> jken146: yes I'm running that now, thanx....and it seems to be working, don't know what was up with update-manager
[04:18] <jken146> nikos_: start cheese and see if you see yourself!
[04:18] <omani> nikos_, "dmesg | tail" for information about ur device
[04:18] <toni> aaa
[04:18] <greg_> Jaredu: possibly I could downgrade the kernel. I am not sure what other issues this might bring. I love linux, but I have spent SOOO much time trying to repair things after making seemingly small changes. I am afraid of what things might not work with an older kernel... and not knowing if issues are due to Karmic being new or due to a kernel that was not intended for Karmic.
[04:18] <|{urse> nikos use amsn for webcamchat
[04:19] <deadowl_> does anyone know if evolution has full support for google calendar yet?
[04:19] <Rubin> anyone know what the "audio converter" app that was in the sound/video menu in previous versions is called (doesnt seem to be installed by default anymore)
[04:20] <nikos_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/305616/
[04:20] <juken> I just downloaded the 9.10 iso, checked the md5sum (which is the one 9.10 says it has), and it keeps instaling 9.04
[04:20] <nikos_> the command you just gave me...
[04:20] <Jaredu> greg_ wouldn't know until you try... it may be of use to just upgrade a bit :\ I'd suggest an nvidia card, because while the drivers are closed source, they release one for each card and support it quite well. ATI, not so much
[04:20] <Rubin> juken, lol
[04:21] <omani> nikos_, looks fine. u should be able to watch urself in cheese
[04:21] <toni> Hola alguien hable español
[04:21] <Wolfcastle> toni prueba en #ubuntu-es
[04:21] <ArtVandalae> Is anyone experiencing very slow speeds with KVM on Karmic? I'm also noticing an issue with using .raw files (as opposed to .qcow2) formats. I'm trying to install Windows XP to a virtual machine.
[04:22] <jken146> ArtVandalae: do you have a newish processor?
[04:22] <greg_> Jaredu: I agree -- I have 3 computers with ATI cards and all 3 suffer from poor support. All new purchases will have NVIDIA cards. I guess I will try to find a new card for this mobo. Hopefully the rest of the mobo works with Karmic!
[04:22] <nikos_> no... I get a funny picture though, you know, the kinda you see in tv with the colors of the rainbow and a square of snow at right bottom :s
[04:22] <DanaG> argh... every time I press "enter" to open a picture in Nautilus... the picture viewer opens in front of the nautilus window.... UNFOCUSED.
[04:22] <DanaG> It's really annoying.
[04:22] <ArtVandalae> jken146, yes, it has hardware virtualisation support.
[04:23] <Arvan> hi,guys.
[04:23] <DanaG> More than half the time, I end up accidentally closing (with alt-f4) the Nautilus window instead of the picture.
[04:23] <jken146> greg_: I agree too.  nvidia support is better, and intel is better still (tends to be integrated things)
[04:23] <ak> My dvd playing used to work.. now I get (from vlc): 'could not open disk /dev/scd0'
[04:23] <poyntz> bbl. thanks people for the help
[04:24] <Arvan> i have a question,please help me.i remember there is a command, something like "man what",it could show a unix directory details.
[04:24] <megamanx1978> Has anyone tried the 9.10 upgrade on ultimate edition besides me?
[04:24] <jken146> DanaG: look in gconf for the setting for that... you can tell it (somewhere) to make new windows appear in focus
[04:24] <omani> nikos_, look which device is given in the preferences of cheese
[04:24] <Arvan> could you tell me what is ?
[04:24] <nikos_> it's /dev/video0
[04:24] <jken146> Arvan: man shows manual pages for things
[04:24] <Slasher01> megaman what you mean ultimate edition?
[04:24] <jken146> !man
[04:25] <mdprotacio> @jken146 you know anything about gnome-mount?
[04:25] <Arvan> jken146, oh...no,i know what man can do.
[04:25] <mdprotacio> @jken146 it's not installed by default on karmic?
[04:25] <greg_> jken146: Intel? I understood the Intel cards are supported well, but how does performance compare to nvidia? Personally I prefer AMD processors but, if graphics cards are forcing me to Intel, I will choose what is supported in Linux.
[04:25] <megamanx1978> Ultimate Edition linux
[04:25] <omani> nikos_, plugged in for the first time? try to replug the device
[04:25] <krammer_> evening all anyone good at burning ? tried k3b and brasero
[04:25] <nikos_> plus nikos@hotmachine:~$ cheese
[04:25] <nikos_> libv4l2: error setting pixformat: Invalid argument
[04:25] <nikos_> libv4l2: error setting pixformat: Invalid argument
[04:25] <FloodBot3> nikos_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:25] <San234> hey can any1 here plzz help me
[04:25]  * DanaG uses ATI and is just fine with it.
[04:25] <megamanx1978> It is a ubuntu based distro
[04:26] <Arvan> i mean some command 'man xxxxx' can show a details about unix directories.
[04:26] <krisgesling> hey has anyone had a problem upgrading using the alternate image where it has to download the 700meg even if you tell it not to?
[04:26] <tukangkod> helo
[04:26] <jken146> mdprotacio: is it not?  that's strange.  It should be, I'd have thought.  Install it and see if that does the trick.  IDK anything about it really, but its manpage looks promising
[04:26] <oblenob> can anyone tell me how to unmount a volume?
[04:26] <ak> On startup, I get error "ATA revalidation failed".. does that refer to hard drive or to the cdrom drive? something I should be worried about?
[04:26] <San234> how do i run mp3 songs and avi movies in ubuntu? i m new and i dont hav net enabled in ubuntu i m curently in xp
[04:26] <bazhang> megamanx1978, its not supported here
[04:26] <DanaG> The only real thing blocking me from using the open-source drivers nowadays, is lack of power management when on KMS.
[04:26] <Arvan> umount /mountpoint
[04:26] <Guest54414> Hi everyone: Having trouble with Atheros wifi driver from 9.04 upgrade, now getting kernel problems after I un-blacklisted the ath5k driver.  Anyone help?
[04:27] <jken146> greg_: if you want to play games in Windows or do some crazy stuff in blender, you'll have a decision to make.  If you just want graphics that work, get any old card that has support.
[04:27] <ak> San234: there's vlc that I think works with avi's and amarok player for mp3s
[04:27] <kermit> why does -rootwin not work in mplayer?
[04:27] <p-f> is there a way to make gnome not override what I'm doing? I did "xset dpms force off" to turn my lcd off and about five minutes later some silly power management ting kicked in and turned the lcd back on with a black screen (which is insanely bright when you're in a dark room).
[04:27] <rick_> hi all. need help.. i cant seems to install flash plugin.
[04:27] <San234> ya i know but vlc is available for linux?
[04:27] <p-f> or at least make it really turn the lcd off?
[04:27] <bravo03> San234, yes
[04:27] <jken146> Arvan: do you mean ls ?
[04:27] <krisgesling> Rick: what happens when you try
[04:28] <San234> and how do i install it
[04:28] <krammer_> evening all anyone good at burning ? tried k3b and brasero
[04:28] <Arvan> rick_, go to adobe.com,and download flash-plugin in deb.
[04:28] <bravo03> San234, PPA will let you install VLC
[04:28] <rick_> is gives me error
[04:28] <Algaeman> How do I get ubuntu 9.10 to not activate a framebuffer?  even if I do vga=normal at grub, it switches to a framebuffer a bit into the boot.
[04:28] <ctmjr> !media | San234
[04:28] <woddf2> Wubi gives me an error!
[04:28] <Arvan> jken146, nope...
[04:28] <megamanx1978> It is basicly ubuntu with extra goodies so what works with ubuntu should work with ultimate edition
[04:28] <ak> San234: synaptic package manager will also let you install it
[04:28] <greg_> jken146: Mainly I just want Compiz to work.  need my eye candy you know ;)  It won't work with the non-proprietary ati drivers on my computer.
[04:28] <jken146> rick_: try this first: sudo apt-get remove --purge flashplugin* && sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[04:29] <peter> Is there a wifi driver group?
[04:29] <ctmjr> !codecs | San234
[04:29] <woddf2> It says that the application configuration is incorrect!
[04:29] <San234> i use winamp in xp cos it takes least ram space any1 can tell wich is the best player? wich is light
[04:29] <bazhang> megamanx1978, not the point, its not supported here
[04:29] <nikos_> thanks omani, I can see my face now :) I still though got a problem with vlc... It just cant open my webcam :/
[04:29] <rick_> could not find flash plugin contex
[04:29] <Arvan> San234, Audacious.
[04:29] <rick_> im using the 9.10 btw
[04:30] <jken146> greg_: anything will do really.  I have an nvidia geForce 3 card that makes compuz work
[04:30] <DigitalKiwi> mpd + ncmpcpp > * for music, that or maybe cmus but ncmpcpp is awesome so...
[04:30] <San234> 1 more thing i hav LAN and i downloaded ip msg for linux but it didnt install in it
[04:30] <pratyaksha> Sorry, new here, wondering where the best place is to find help for Atheros wifi drivers for 9.10
[04:30] <jken146> !atheros
[04:30] <Arvan> rick_, i m using 9.10 too, like i said, just go to adobe.com,and download flash-plugin,and install it.sudo dpkg -i
[04:30] <woddf2> Can anyone see this?
[04:30] <pratyaksha> thanks jken146
[04:30] <DigitalKiwi> http://omploader.org/vMjgyag San234 lower left
[04:30] <jken146> woddf2: yes
[04:31] <mdprotacio> @jken146 will gnome-mount work even with devicekit-disks?
[04:31] <p-f> woddf2, no
[04:31] <jken146> mdprotacio: no idea
[04:31] <mdprotacio> @jken146 or it is only for hal?
[04:31] <jken146> mdprotacio: the man page in jaunty says it's for HAL
[04:31] <greg_> jken146: thanks for the advice. ...time to leave for now.  I need to reboot now (sound quits working every few days and rebooting is the only fix). I was hoping Karmic would fix this, but first I need to solve the video issue.
[04:31] <woddf2> I see no messages from anyone...
[04:31] <jimbeam12> anyone using lm-sensors
[04:32] <mdprotacio> @jken146 aw.. so there is no guarantee that installing gnome-mount will work since 9.10 is using devicekit-disks and not hal
[04:32] <rick_> arvan, thanks
[04:32] <jken146> mdprotacio: BTW, stop it with the @ signs please!  This is IRC!
[04:32] <rick_> then what about mp3 plugin
[04:32] <Arvan> rick_, you are welcome.
[04:32] <centHOGG> jimbeam12: yeah the gnome aplet
[04:32] <mdprotacio> sorry
[04:32] <bazhang> woddf2, did you have a support question
[04:32] <mdprotacio> :D
[04:32] <xTCx> night
[04:32] <jken146> :)
[04:32] <jimbeam12> i cant get it to work..
[04:32] <woddf2> Did I miss anything?
[04:32] <jken146> night xTCx
[04:32] <zetheroo> I downloaded the ISO of Ubuntu 9.10 .... is it possible to upgrade my Jaunty boxes with this ISO?
[04:32] <woddf2> Wubi refuses to work. It gives me an error.
[04:32] <centHOGG> jimbeam12: has it work previously?
[04:32] <jimbeam12> its coming with #modprobe unknown adapter NVIDIA i2c adapter
[04:32] <lstarnes> zetheroo: is it the alternate?
[04:33] <jimbeam12> yes it worked under 9.04
[04:33] <zetheroo> lstarnes: no
[04:33] <woddf2> It says that the application configuration is incorrect.
[04:33] <lstarnes> zetheroo: you'll need the alternate for in-place upgrades
[04:33] <jken146> zetheroo: You need the alternate CD to upgrade without an internet connection, otherwise use the command do-release-upgrade.  Alternatively, do a fresh install with a live CD
[04:33] <centHOGG> jimbeam12: kewl, did you try a reinstall
[04:33] <jimbeam12> hmm y es
[04:33] <jken146> woddf2: Do you have to use wubi?  How about installing ubuntu properly?
[04:33] <jimbeam12> n
[04:33] <woddf2> jken146: I cannot burn CDs.
[04:34] <zetheroo> lstarnes jken146 so it's completely impossible to upgrade without the alternative ISO?
[04:34] <D3RGPS31> using the fglrx driver (ATI R HD 4850) my 2d graphics are choppy; but when i enable compiz, they're smooth; why D:
[04:34] <woddf2> jken146: UNetbootin did not work.
[04:34] <Arvan> woddf2, use USB flash disk to boot your iso file.
[04:34] <woddf2> Arvan: I do not have any USB flash drives to use for that.
[04:34] <jimbeam12> anyone else know of any other monitoring program
[04:34] <lstarnes> zetheroo: you can install over the old installation, but not actually upgrade without overwriting
[04:34] <jken146> zetheroo: you can upgrade from within jaunty
[04:35] <Algaeman> anybody know how the framebuffer works in 9.10?
[04:35] <Jaredu> greg_ hopefully- the only issues ive had is to reinstall the nvidia driver via command line (just /etc/init.d/gdm stop sh /home/user/Desktop/nvidia.run and /etc/init.d/gdm start) when a new kernel update comes out, check the nvidia drivers site before buying a new card! :D
[04:35] <jken146> !install
[04:35] <DigitalKiwi> Algaeman: magic
[04:35] <zetheroo> jken146: with the ISO I have?
[04:35] <pratyaksha> sorry, new here & to irc: looking for help with atheros wifi card, jken146 suggest "!atheros," what does the exclamation point mean?
[04:35] <Algaeman> bad magic on my machine.
[04:35] <jken146> zetheroo: no
[04:35] <Arvan> woddf2, what error messages did you get?
[04:35] <megamanx1978> I guess edubuntu or xubuntu is not supported here eather?
[04:35] <jken146> !atheros | pratyaksha
[04:35] <jken146> !bot | pratyaksha
[04:35] <lstarnes> megamanx1978: they are, but #edubuntu and #xubuntu are better for those
[04:35] <_Er1K_> Okay, I stumped.  How can I change a user's X environment that is started from gdm without access to the console?  I have an executable ~/.xsession, have it symlinked to $/.xinitrc ...how can I make gdm use that for a given user without (convenient) access to gdm and it's "Session" menu?
[04:35] <woddf2> Arvan: It says that the application configuration is incorrect.
[04:36] <zetheroo> why the heck do they make an ISO that you cannot upgrade with? ....
[04:36] <pratyaksha> thank you, but i've looked through the community documentation already.
[04:36] <justfil> Hello, I'm trying to change certain settings in about:config of Opera but after the restart they doesn
[04:36] <albertxiaoyu> If my system  upgrade to Ubunut 9.10 from Ubuntu 9.04,   Will  my previous software   disappear ?
[04:36] <bazhang> megamanx1978, those are official canonical releases, so yes they are
[04:36] <justfil> Hello, I'm trying to change certain settings in about:config of Opera but after the restart they doesnt seem to change.
[04:36] <lstarnes> albertxiaoyu: how are you upgrading?
[04:36] <crunchbang> how kool is this
[04:36] <mimcpher> Is there a way in the 9.10 installer to create a full disk encryption?
[04:36] <albertxiaoyu> through the internet
[04:36] <pratyaksha> upgraded recently to 9.10, then lost wifi.  got it back by unblacklisting a driver, but now having kernel problems.  just wondering if it could be related?
[04:37] <tehowe> backupbackupbackupbackup
[04:37] <jken146> zetheroo: because of the way live-bootable CDs work
[04:37] <San234> i m not an engener so i dont understand how to install PPAs plzz help som1 and wer can i get link to dlod audacious
[04:37] <Arvan> it won't happen. please make sure you run wubi,and then choose a windows partition for installing, and choose your installation size, set root pwd.
[04:37] <Guest65552> crunchbang rocks
[04:37] <spsneo> jockey does not work with http authentication
[04:37] <spsneo> I mean http proxy
[04:37] <Arvan> San234, sudo aptitude install audacious
[04:37] <woddf2> Arvan: What won't happen?
[04:37] <San234> Arvan , wer will i get link to download audacious
[04:38] <spsneo> also ubuntu software center is not working http proxy with authorization
[04:38] <centHOGG> <handbrake noob
[04:38] <Arvan> woddf2, i mean your errors. you could try once more.
[04:38] <jken146> San234: use the package manager!
[04:38] <San234> right now i m in xp and i will download the setups then i will switch to ubuntu and instal them
[04:38] <woddf2> Arvan: I get the same error message...
[04:38] <Arvan> San234, it will install audacious directly.
[04:38] <Guest65552> anyone else using crunchbang?
[04:38] <San234> i dont have net in ubuntu i repeat i dont hav internet in ubuntu
[04:38] <_Er1K_> The "user" is set for automatic login, the system has no keyboard or mouse, so clicking the "Session" menu is a PITA without digging around behind my tv
[04:39] <jken146> centHOGG: Be nice to the newbies please!
[04:39] <San234> and how to activate root
[04:39] <Guest65552> su
[04:39] <centHOGG> jken146: :) you know much about handbrake?
[04:39] <bazhang> Guest65552, the folks in #crunchbang will offer support
[04:39] <Arvan> San234, wait a while,let me find a deb package for you.
[04:39] <fizzle> will i be able to upgrade to from 9.4 to 9.10 without reinstalling/.
[04:39] <San234> ok
[04:39] <mimcpher> fizzle: Yes.
[04:39] <fizzle> k.
 ok
[04:40] <Guest65552> just chillin testing this out
[04:40] <jken146> San234: oh, sorry.  You can download the packages individually from packages.ubuntu.com but you need to make sure you get all the dependencies as well.  This is a pain without a package manager!
[04:40] <mimcpher> fizzle: If you open the updates thing, it should say "New release available: 9.10" and you can click upgrade
[04:40] <albertxiaoyu> does it lose the previous software ?
[04:40] <fizzle> im not an ubuntu guy. i usually use slackware but im going to use ubuntu for my mac.
[04:40] <Arvan> San234, http://www.getdeb.net/app/Audacious
[04:40] <zetheroo> fiddle sticks ... I cannot download another ISO :(
[04:40] <fizzle> k
[04:40] <durt> !upgrade | fizzle
[04:40] <fizzle> ;)
[04:40] <jken146> centHOGG: no, sorry, what are you trying to ask?
[04:40] <megamanx1978> Well there is no ultimate edition room that I know of and it is closer to reguler ubuntu than those two distros (Just extra themes and programs) so that is why I am here
[04:41] <centHOGG> jken146: yeah just the best way to rip (Xvid or h.264)
[04:41] <Guest65552> exit
[04:41] <PC_Nerd1011> Hi - aptitude --purge remove bind9 hangs on attempting to stop bind9... bind 9 is not running and wont run and I want to clean its install and start again... how can I remove it completely?
[04:41] <bazhang> megamanx1978, install regular ubuntu and you are welcome to support here
[04:41] <Balsaq> what is pppoe setup? (yting to get this online)
[04:42] <assoguerozen_sx> damn, office 2007 running so nice in wine
[04:42] <San234> Arvan, thanks for that link now how to install that deb file in ubuntu?
[04:42] <bazhang> centHOGG, you have handbrake from the PPA ?
[04:42] <fizzle> assoguerozen_sx; screenshot? ;)
[04:42] <jken146> PC_Nerd1011: try stopping bind9 yourself
[04:42] <spsneo> jockey does not work with http proxy authentication
[04:42] <durt> Balsaq, 'sudo pppoeconf' IIRC
[04:42] <Arvan> San234, sudo dpkg -i xxxxxxx.deb
[04:42] <centHOGG> bazhang: hi, whaz the PPA
[04:42] <pratyaksha> is there a wifi group?  the problems is that the ath5k driver is replaced in 9.10, but i think because i did not deactivate madwifi in 9.04 there is a problem.  wifi worked fine from live cd but could not be enabled until i changed the /etc/modprobe.d blacklist file.  sorry for all the info, just love ubuntu and don't know what to do other than fresh install
[04:42] <assoguerozen_sx> fizzle ok about to show it
[04:42] <holstein> got on issue with zynaddsubfx... 'zombified - calling shutdown handler' when changeing patches.. outputs disappear from JACK
[04:42] <jken146> spsneo: file a bug report then
[04:42] <iwobbles> does synaptic delete files after it unistalls them or do I need to do a sudo aptget clean or whatever ?
[04:42] <_Er1K_> Any suggestion on how I can make user "mythtv" use the ~/.xsession script instead of starting xfce WITHOUT physical access to the console gdm is running on would be appreciated
[04:42] <PC_Nerd1011> jken146: bind 9 isnt running... when I manually try and start it it fails, when I try and stop it rndc says it failed to connect.
[04:43] <justfil> Can I use my existing windows installation as virtual machine image in Ubuntu?
[04:43] <bazhang> centHOGG, personal package archive
[04:43] <bazhang> !ppa > centHOGG
[04:43] <centHOGG> bazhang: oh, nah
[04:43] <jken146> iwobbles: it deletes what it removes.  apt-get clean will remove downloaded package files from the cache
[04:43] <mimcpher> justfil: Windows doesn't entirely like this; It'll want to re-active its license.
[04:43] <_Er1K_> I've googled, read the gdm man pages, all the x related man pages (that I can find), and I can't seem to figure out where an individual user's default session is stored
[04:43] <jken146> PC_Nerd1011: weird.  try 'sudo killall bind9'
[04:43] <mimcpher> justfil: but vmware can do that.
[04:43] <iwobbles> ta jken146
[04:44] <PC_Nerd1011> jken146: "bind9: no process found"
[04:44] <Yanick_> hi, I just installed removed Ubuntu 9.04, cleared most of my /home/user/.config files (exception Mozilla and such), then installed Ubuntu 9.10, and all I see is a white screen... can anyone help me find the source of the problem?
[04:44] <d9500> iwobbles: if you choose the option for "mark for complete removal" it should remove the package and its config files. you can also use computer janitor to clean up any leftover cruft on your syste,
[04:44] <San234> Arvan, right now i m in xp and and in xchat is ther and linux version of xchat? so that i directly chat thru unbuntu my frend has given me proxy and it works in ubuntu
[04:44] <holstein> i think it would depend on your hardware too justfil.. probably have driver issues
[04:44] <Yanick_> *just removed*
[04:44] <justfil> thanks, mimcpher and holstein
[04:44] <bazhang> San234, yes there is xchat in ubuntu software repositories
[04:44] <PC_Nerd1011> jken146: but netsat -aunt gives me something listening on :::53 and localhost:53 - so it is running? - rather confusing.
[04:45] <pratyaksha> if the community docs on wifi fail, where is the best place to turn?
[04:45] <Arvan> San234, yeah,there's a linux version of xchat
[04:45] <jken146> PC_Nerd1011: I don't know anything about bind9 really :)
[04:45] <linux> Is setting up wifi in wubi the same as in a regular install?
[04:45] <PC_Nerd1011> jken146: ok, np
[04:45] <jken146> pratyaksha: ubuntuforums.org
[04:45] <megamanx1978> Anyone know how to get the xfce4 panal back in the xfce window manager ver 4.6 in "Ubuntu"
[04:45] <Arvan> San234, try to install it by Software Center.
[04:45] <San234> Arvan, does it come default in ubuntu or i will hav to dlod if then wers the link
[04:45] <_Er1K_> PC_Nerd1011:  add -p to your netstat and it will show you what pid owns the listening socket
[04:45] <pratyaksha> ok thank you jken146
[04:45] <DengHa> Anyone from Sweden, or know the language. Get "Det ä Kanon" (Im laughing my ass off:)
[04:45] <jken146> pratyaksha: and google, and here, potentially
[04:45] <|{urse> sup Decepticon
[04:45] <|{urse> tabfail
[04:45] <Arvan> San234, you need download it.
[04:46] <holstein> give it a try though justfil.. image it with clonezilla or something.. cant hurt anything, just dont depend on it to be your backup
[04:46] <jken146> !packages | San234
[04:46] <linux> Is setting up wifi in wubi the same as in a regular install?
[04:46] <|{urse> sup Decessus
[04:46] <pratyaksha> tried google, search the forums, other than posting to the forum or trying here, don't know what else to do
[04:46] <|{urse> rather
[04:46] <jken146> linux: yes
[04:46] <San234> Arvan, plzz giv link to dlod that version
[04:46] <pratyaksha> wifi is up i just can't tell if the kernel problems i'm getting are related to the driver
[04:46] <jken146> pratyaksha: post in the forums.
[04:46] <PC_Nerd1011> _Er1K_: it just gives me a "-" instead of a pid etc.
[04:46] <pratyaksha> cool thanks again jken146
[04:46] <_Er1K_> PC_Nerd1011:  "sudo netstat -auntp | grep -w 53" should tell you what is bound to port 53 mighty quick
[04:46] <justfil> holstein, what I meant is to be able to use it and make changes that will stay in the actual install
[04:46] <linux> jken146: its the gui windows wireless installer , under system?
[04:46] <Decessus> sup |{urse
[04:47] <albertxiaoyu>  I want to know, If my system upgrade to Version 9.10, Will the software I install before lose?
 <albertxiaoyu> Thanks for a help.
 <albertxiaoyu> I plan to  upgrade the system through internet .
[04:47] <oorah> how do i kill gnome power manager?
[04:47] <iwobbles> d9500 Im getting the error E:Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2) using janitor eh
[04:47] <zetheroo> so there is absolutely no way to get Synaptic to look at my Ubuntu CD and update its packages from it?
[04:47] <jken146> linux: what do you mean?
[04:47] <pratyaksha> !dd
[04:47] <Arvan> San234, wait...
[04:47] <marcelcohrs> im creating a new user; what is a room number?
[04:47] <PC_Nerd1011> _Er1K_:  2526/named - I've been having issues with named having permission to read /etc/ssl/openssl.cnf for starting bind9 - so then is it an issue with named instead?
[04:47] <jken146> oorah: pkill gnome-power-manager
[04:47] <DengHa> BajsPolka inne i Linneförrådet :)
[04:47] <San234> Arvan, ya waiting...
[04:48] <oorah> jken146, thanks
[04:48] <DengHa> Ah, the parties
[04:48] <_Er1K_> oorah: Nuke it in ~/.config/autostart if you are trying to get it out of your life permanently
[04:48] <centHOGG> oh well later
[04:48] <Arvan> San234, http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=xchat&searchon=names&suite=karmic&section=all
[04:48] <Benalex> zetheroo AlternateCD maybe?
[04:48] <BoredKender> ok... so this module "ubuntu-desktop" is messing with my x-chat tray icon and tray weather status... anyone else having this problem in Karmic?
[04:48] <jken146> marcelcohrs: the number of a place in a building enclosed by walls in real life... leave it blank and press enter!
[04:48] <San234> Arvan, i hav got proxy for 2 hours within that i need to make mp3 files and avi vids run in ubuntu and also i hav to install softs.
[04:48] <FeasibilityStudy> How long (on average) does it take a mirror to be synced up with the main Ubuntu servers?
[04:48] <marcelcohrs> sweeeeet
[04:48] <linux> jken146: someone told me they could not find the wireless driver installer in their wubi install - I don't have wubi (I use real install), so wanted to verify how to acess the wireless driver setup app.
[04:49] <d9500> iwobbles, if computer janitor does not work, and you want to make sure a package and its configuration files are removed, you can also do a complete removal via terminal with sudo aptitude purge [name of package]. you do need to know the exact package name to do that though. i would recommend the complete removal option in synaptic if you're not sure of the same.
[04:49] <Arvan> San234, you need download xchat-common,xchat-gnome,xchat-gnome-common
[04:49] <marcelcohrs> okay how do i change the default home dir for my new user?
[04:49] <zetheroo> Benalex: yeah .... I just downloaded the other one and cannot download another ISO
[04:49] <d9500> of the name i mean
[04:49] <_Er1K_> PC_Nerd1011: I'm going to guess that bind/named is either dropping privs to one that does not have read access to said file, or is running a chroot jail that does not have access to said file
[04:49] <Arvan> San234, try search and download it from packages.ubuntu.com
[04:49] <jken146> linux: I don't know, sorry.  It should all work the same way, but I'm not normally a wubi user
[04:50] <marcelcohrs> i want it to got to home/ftplinux
[04:50] <linux> jken146: okay.  thanks for chatting with me.
[04:50] <PC_Nerd1011> _Er1k_: ok.... so no specific ideas as to how to fix that ?
[04:50] <megamanx1978> Albert Some software will be replaced with newer versons and some repositorys will be unmarked but I think that is about it
[04:50] <jken146> marcelcohrs: system>admin>users
[04:50] <Benalex> zetheroo the LiveCD doesn't have installable packages that might be used by synaptic
[04:50] <San234> Arvan, y my softwares r unable to get installed? even though i hav dloded their ubunti version
[04:50] <joosengee_> หวัดดีครับ
[04:50] <millstone> yo people
[04:50] <zetheroo> Benalex: seems to be that way
[04:50] <jken146> San234: how are you trying to install them?
[04:51] <_Er1K_> PC_Nerd1011: You can verify that with "sudo chmod a+rX /etc/ssl" and "sudo chmod a+r /etc/ssl/openssl.cnf"
[04:51] <iwobbles> d9500 I closed down all other apps the erros went away and the janitor finished ok thanks for the tip eh
[04:51] <marcelcohrs> permission denied
[04:51] <DaveyAM> hi guys hello ebdy
[04:51] <marcelcohrs> what do i have to type in the bash
[04:51] <San234> jken146, i m try to run thier linux version setups
[04:51] <d9500> iwobbles,  np.
[04:51] <Arvan> San234, why not? what message did you get?
[04:51] <_Er1K_> PC_Nerd1011:  that will leave things pretty ummmmmmm open.  If that fixes it, it's a permissions issue, and you should then adjust accordingly
[04:51] <oorah> _Er1K_, how do i do that exactly?
[04:51] <D3RGPS31> anyone with an ATI 48xx card
[04:51] <hsn> hey guys... i upgraded to ubuntu 9.10 today from 9.04 and my mouse doesnt work (laptop) any tips?
[04:52] <San234> Arvan, its a long message everytime i will hav to chek
[04:52] <jken146> San234: what do you mean?  Are you in ubuntu?
[04:52] <San234> Arvan, hey can i join t his chat from any browser?
[04:52] <judibeefl> how do we log in to irc?
[04:52] <Arvan> San234, i m so confused that you are online under winxp,why not be online under ubuntu???
[04:52] <_Er1K_> oorah: if from a shell "ls ~/.config/autostart/*gnome*power*.desktop" shows exactly one file....  then "rm ~/.config/autostart/*gnome*power*.desktop" will make it go away
[04:52] <lstarnes> judibeefl: /msg nickserv help identify
[04:52] <San234> jken146, no right now in xp cos i dont hav xchat in ubuntu
[04:52] <hsn> anyone/
[04:53] <San234> becoz i dont have xchat in ubuntu!
[04:53] <San234> thats y online in xp
[04:53] <hsn> its a synaptic touchpad
[04:53] <PC_Nerd1011> _Er1K_ no fix...   killed the proccess listening on port 53, manually restarted bind9.... /var/log/syslog gives me a long kernel error, specifically naming requested_mask="::r" and denied_mask="::r"
[04:53] <jken146> San234: you can't install linux binaries in windows!!  Install ubuntu and reboot into that.
[04:53] <Arvan> San234, i have no idead.
[04:53] <holstein> hsn: external mouse? :)
[04:53] <San234> Arvan, its ok
[04:53] <assoguerozen_sx> http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/7439/office2007.png  fizzle
[04:53] <hsn> no laptop
[04:53] <hsn> holstein: laptop :)
[04:53] <assoguerozen_sx> sry about slowing
[04:53] <millstone> anyone like to play chess?
[04:53] <Random832> so what's the next version of ubuntu?
[04:53] <holstein> hsn: no that was my seuggestion :)... are you sure its not hardware?
[04:54] <Random832> after karmic
[04:54] <Random832> !10.4
[04:54] <hsn> no...
[04:54] <icehawk78> Is there a way to find the nameservers/dns that's assigned by DHCP for a static IP?
[04:54] <hsn> it was fine in 9.04
[04:54] <jken146> San234: then install it in ubuntu!!! Do you have internet access in ubuntu?
[04:54] <D3RGPS31> anyone with an ATI 48xx card :/
[04:54] <hsn> i just upgraded and it doesnt work
[04:54] <hsn> sucks :(
[04:54] <FloodBot3> hsn: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:54] <holstein> drag
[04:54] <Random832> !lucid
[04:54] <San234> Arvan, ther are 2 options amd64 and i386 i m runing in 32bit then do i choose i386?
[04:54] <DaveyAM> guys i need install the odb connector for sql server and sybase.. a friend tell me about Freetds but i can install this.. i dont know how install or configure it :S
[04:54] <hsn> anyyyyyyone?
[04:54] <Nehal> icehawk78: ifconfig ?
[04:54] <Arvan> San234, yes, i386.
[04:54] <jken146> icehawk78: whois ipa.ddr.ess.foo
[04:54] <San234> jken146, ya i hav a frends proxy
[04:55] <millstone> how many of u have ever chewed chunky milk
[04:55] <DengHa> holstein: The best beer in the world!!!
[04:55] <hsn> so anyone?
[04:55] <holstein> i guess do the usual stuff hsn, lspci and what not, and see if it shows up
[04:55] <_Er1K_> PC_Nerd1011: As root, make sure named is not running (killall -9 named), then try "named -g" and see what it does.
[04:55] <icehawk78> Nehal: So, set it to auto, run ifconfig, then use info from that to set /etc/resolv.conf?
[04:55] <holstein> DengHa: really?
[04:55] <coordinador> Hey, how can I deactivate the bluetooth service or another, graphically?
[04:55] <holstein> can you link to i DengHa? i didnt know
[04:55] <millstone> anyone ever licked a cactus?
[04:55] <DengHa> holstein: I also like SanMiguel and NorrlandsGold
[04:55] <jken146> San234: then boot into ubuntu, set up the proxy settings (system -> preferences -> proxy) and then use software centre or synaptic to install xchat
[04:55] <hsn> zzz so no one can tell me how to get my mouse working????
[04:56] <holstein> hsn: did you run lspci yet?
[04:56] <corden> how to solve this one: ntfs5: wubildr error?
[04:56] <nikos_> how can i record video from my webcam except cheese in mp4 or somethink like it?
[04:56] <PC_Nerd1011> _Er1K_: I'll paste bin the error:   http://pastebin.com/m7275f6cf
[04:56] <San234> okies guyz rebooting in ubuntu hope it works thanx for help i will come bak to ask how to install that deb files
[04:56] <DengHa> holstein: A beer should have "Roooundness, Fuuulness" as or good friend Dr Bundy said.
[04:56] <bazhang> !ot | DengHa
[04:56] <DengHa> or/our
[04:57] <hsn> holstein: what is that? i'm a newbie :p
[04:57] <Yanick_> please help! I have a white screen when I boot Ubuntu 9.10. I tried doing a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, but nothing changed
[04:57] <Denis> Hi. I encountered an error whilst upgrading from 9.04 to 9.10. I do not have a selection to load 9.10 when loading from grub (i dual boot) only 9.04. Additionally, it seems to load 9.04 with that load screen for about 15 seconds before switching to the new 9.10 load screen. Same happens when shutting down. Furthermore, I have encountered a kind of multi-coloured death screen 3/5 times I tried to get into Ubuntu. I only have the abi
[04:57] <demonspork> I found ntfs-config to be an invaluable tool for setting up my NTFS partitions in Fstab, are there any utilities in 9.10 to replace it or am I going to have to look for it in another place, because it isn't available in the repository anymore
[04:57] <corden> ntfs5: wubildr error?
[04:57] <DengHa> bazhang: Go away. If people want fun its what we want. Stuff your rule book somewhere.
[04:57] <D3RGPS31> my fglrx driver displays 3D perfectly, but 2D is extremely choppy; what can i do?
[04:58] <mattgyver> Anyone installed grub2 manually in 9.10?
[04:58] <_Er1K_> PC_Nerd1011: Okay, I'm a sucker for somebody with an easy problem :)  I'm installing bind9 right now so I can see where debian puts things these days and I'll tell you what other files to pastebin
[04:59] <DaveyAM> odbc driver for sql and sybase .... i dont know how install / configure Freetds... iam reading oficial website with i can do this.. some body know about one graphic odbc driver configuration?
[04:59] <PC_Nerd1011> _Er1k_: Thanks :)
[04:59] <Nehal> icehawk78: hmm.. sorry i misread your question, nm
[04:59] <judibeefl> Thanks for the login help :>
[05:00] <demonspork> in 9.10 64bit with Google Chrome 64bit, I can't seem to click on controls in some flash videos, such as Hulu.com
[05:00] <demonspork> and youtube
[05:00] <demonspork> oh noes
[05:00] <holstein> got on issue with zynaddsubfx... 'zombified - calling shutdown handler' when changeing patches.. outputs disappear from JACK
[05:00] <icehawk78> Nehal: It's alright. I went from DHCP to static IP, but I keep getting "no route found" errors, presumably because /etc/resolv.conf is empty, but I'm not sure what should be there
[05:01] <jken146> demonspork: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/mountwindows
[05:01] <marcelcohrs> hi guys, using vsftpd and would like to change the permissions of my main account to be able to write
[05:02] <Nehal> icehawk78: check your routing table 'route'
[05:02] <Random832> so why is mouse pointer type part of the theme? It's so annoying to change it back whenever I set a new theme - no theme ever comes with mouse pointers, it just always goes back to tiny white
[05:02] <Nehal> icehawk78: that doesn't sound like a DNS error but a routing problem
[05:02] <demonspork> jken146, I know how to do it, I just have soo many different partitions, I loved using ntfs-config because it would automatically set them each up to use NTFS-3g rather than Fuseblk which the system tries to automatically mount them with. It also recognized the partitions by uuid, which was nice if I rearranged hard drives
[05:02] <Random832> I know it used to be in mouse preferences, like a couple years ago
[05:03] <icehawk78> Nehal: Well, when it's on DHCP, it gets online fine. Not sure what I should be looking for, if not that.
[05:03] <demonspork> jken146, that guide uses the ntfs-config tool, which is no longer in the package repo
[05:03] <jken146> demonspork: oh, sorry, aysiu must have changed it since I last read it ages ago!
[05:04] <jken146> demonspork: you can do it by uuid manually
[05:04] <demonspork> jken146, yeah, I know, but I have 6+ partitions at any given time
[05:04] <imi> hello
[05:04] <marcelcohrs> hi guys, using vsftpd and would like to change the permissions of my main account to be able to write
[05:04] <jken146> demonspork: only needs setting up once
[05:04] <imi> I am unable to use the new kdevelop. is there somewhere any helping material?
[05:05] <demonspork> jken146, I pulled a .deb from 9.04 for ntfs-config, it seems to be working
[05:05] <hsn> does anyone know how to make a synaptic touchpad work in ubuntu? i upgraded from 9.04 and it doesnt work
[05:05] <hsn> help!
[05:05] <Denis> Hi. I encountered an error whilst upgrading from 9.04 to 9.10. I do not have a selection to load 9.10 when loading from grub (i dual boot) only 9.04. Additionally, it seems to load 9.04 with that load screen for about 15 seconds before switching to the new 9.10 load screen. Same happens when shutting down. Furthermore, I have encountered a kind of multi-coloured death screen 3/5 times I tried to get into Ubuntu. I only have the abi
[05:05] <jken146> demonspork: cool
[05:05] <D3RGPS31> my fglrx driver displays 3D perfectly, but 2D is extremely choppy; what can i do?
[05:05] <icehawk78> Nehal: Aha, got it figured out. Finally.
[05:06] <Nehal> :)
[05:06] <[V]ortex`> tex`
[05:06] <hsn> anyone?
[05:06] <[V]ortex`> how do i upgrade to 9.10 from within 9.04?
[05:06] <djsjr> Can anyone help with Ubuntu 9.10 install, I can't see my hard disks in the partitioner?
[05:06] <BoredKender> ok... so this module "ubuntu-desktop" is messing with my x-chat tray icon and tray weather status... anyone else having this problem in Karmic?
[05:06] <icehawk78> !patience > hsn
[05:06] <DaveyAM> mmm no upgrade for now...
[05:06] <Denis> [V]ortex: Go to upgrade manager
[05:06] <jken146> [V]ortex`: do-release-upgrade
[05:07] <gh0zt> sudo do-release-upgrade
[05:07] <marcelcohrs> hi guys, using vsftpd and would like to change the permissions of my main account to be able to write
[05:07] <Nehal> [V]ortex`: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
[05:07] <djsjr> I can see the drive in Gparted though.
[05:07] <Yanick_> can somene PLEASE help me??
[05:07] <[V]ortex`> clarification: how do i do fresh install from within 9.04?
[05:07] <Yanick_> I have a white screen when I boot Ubuntu 9.10
[05:08] <corden> is there a support channel for wubi?
[05:08] <djsjr> Yanick have you tried alternate install cd?
[05:08] <jken146> corden: there's a section on ubuntuforums.org
[05:08] <gh0zt> it wouldn't be fresh if you did it within 9.04
[05:08] <Psinetic> I need some serious help. After the upgrade to karmic my hard drive won't boot. I've tired installing the grub again....but it won't work! someone help please? :(
[05:08] <Yanick_> what?
[05:08] <lstarnes> Yanick_: what kind of video card are you using?
[05:08] <Nehal> Yanick_: did you check the xorg logs?
[05:08] <D3RGPS31> my fglrx driver displays 3D perfectly, but 2D is extremely choppy; what can i do? :/
[05:08] <Kniht> how can I switch to a text terminal (e.g. ctrl-alt-F2) when ubuntu is running in a virtualbox VM on a ubuntu host?
[05:09] <Yanick_> I have an ATI Radeon HD 3600
[05:09] <alokito> how to bring back the icons for Preferences, Administration etc. menu in karmic?
[05:09] <Nehal> Psinetic: you need to be more specific? at what point does it fail, does the grub boot menu show up?
[05:09] <drakeman> hey guys, im normally a debian user, i want to migrate into kubuntu, is there any way to change the boot process in kubuntu, for the normal process in where i see all the components loading at start?
[05:09] <corden> ok tnx - still cannot load wubildr
[05:09] <drakeman> i dont want to see that kubuntu screen
[05:09] <d9500> kniht: open terminal and type sudo services gdm stop
[05:09] <lstarnes> drakeman: edit the config for grub and remove the "quiet" boot option
[05:09] <Psinetic> nehal, grub doesn't show up at all. i forget the error it displays, something about UUID
[05:09] <lstarnes> drakeman: there may also be a "splash" option
[05:09] <Yanick_> I have a fresh install of 9.10, it worked FINE with 9.04. I removed all .conf in my /home dir before whiping the old 9.04 and installing 9.10
[05:09] <jken146> drakeman: you could change the option in grub to remove 'splash' and 'quiet'
[05:09] <coordinador> ***WHy there is no graphical tool to edit services??
[05:09] <Psinetic> nehal, it tells me it can't mount the disk
[05:10] <d9500> Kniht, then you can switch between VTs w/ alt+2, alt+3, etc
[05:10] <Kniht> d9500: thanks, I'll try it out
[05:10] <drakeman> jken146,  thanks,
[05:10] <d9500> i mean alt + f2...err
[05:10] <drakeman> lstarnes, thanks
[05:10] <drakeman> going to try it
[05:10] <Denis> Hi. I encountered an error after upgrading from 9.04 to 9.10. I do not have a selection to load 9.10 when loading from grub (i dual boot) only for 9.04. Additionally, it seems to load 9.04 with that load screen for about 15 seconds before switching to the new 9.10 load screen. Same happens when shutting down. Furthermore, I have encountered a kind of multi-coloured death screen 3/5 times I tried to get into Ubuntu. I only have the 
[05:10] <hsn> does anyone know how to make a synaptic touchpad work in ubuntu? i upgraded from 9.04 and it doesnt work
[05:11] <[V]ortex`> what does this error msg mean during upgrade? W:Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/karmic-security/main/source/Sources.bz2  Hash Sum mismatch
[05:11] <[V]ortex`> , E:Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[05:11] <BoredKender> hsn mine works just fine and i upgraded from 9.04...
[05:11] <jken146> Denis, hsn: please stop reposting your problems.  come back later on when different people are here.  In the mean time, why not google a bit and/or post in the forums?
[05:11] <Nehal> Psinetic: hmm, did you try a filesystem check? perhaps it can't get the second stage loader
[05:11] <lstarnes> [V]ortex`: it could mean that the file is corrupt.  it's probably a temporary issue
[05:12] <Kniht> d9500: 'services' is the right command? wouldn't think I don't have it installed, if so, but can't find it
[05:12] <[V]ortex`> lstarnes: what do i do then?
[05:12] <DesertEagle> can someone help me figure out why VLC won't show up, please?
[05:12] <mattgyver> Has anyone had the luxury of installing grub2 in 9.10 manually?
[05:12] <Psinetic> Nehal: i don't have a clue what you just said
[05:12] <hsn> i did google jken146, and i didnt find anything, thats why im here
[05:12] <lstarnes> [V]ortex`: wait a couple hours then try again
[05:12] <icehawk78> If a live-cd of 9.10 works on a system, is it likely safe to upgrade after backing up?
[05:12] <jken146> icehawk78: likely, yes.  Guaranteed, no.
[05:12] <Yanick_> is this happening to anyone else, or am I the only unfortunate one to have a damn white screen (completely white, nothing else) after logon??
[05:12] <jken146> icehawk78: (but nothing is guaranteed)
[05:13] <[V]ortex`> lstarnes: ok i'll give it another try first
[05:13] <ctmjr> DesertEagle: try it in a terminal and see if you get any errors
[05:13] <icehawk78> jken146: That's what I thought, just checking. Thanks!
[05:13] <d9500> kniht: um, try service. i don't think it should be plural.
[05:13] <veggteppe> Hi, was just wondering about the "Ubuntu Certified Professional Training". Is the exam hold in person? or over the internet?, and is the certification something that u can put on your job application?
[05:13] <Nehal> Psinetic: let's start from the beginning, how are you installing grub? are you doing it from the ubuntu install disc?
[05:13] <djsjr> Yanick, I've had that problem on ATI and NVIDIA cards, sometimes just have to use alternate (text) based install
[05:13] <Yanick_> why would it do that on a fresh install??
[05:13] <hsn> ?????????
[05:13] <DesertEagle> ctmjr: main interface error: no suitable interface module
[05:13] <d9500> kniht: if it doesn't work, i'll try it to see
[05:13] <Kniht> d9500: thanks much
[05:14] <Kniht> 'service' was it
[05:14] <hsn> does anyone know how to make a synaptic touchpad work in ubuntu? i upgraded from 9.04 and it doesnt work
[05:14] <alokito> i don't have any icon in preference, administrations etc. menu in karmic
[05:14] <alokito> is that a bug?
[05:14] <Psinetic> nehal, i'm on the live cd right now. someone else helped me before but we couldn't install grub, it wouldn't take.
[05:14] <Yanick_> anyone?
[05:14] <IndyGunFreak> Psinetic: whats wrong?
[05:14] <icehawk78> Will do-release-upgrade work on desktop systems over ssh, or is that just for server installs?
[05:15] <d9500> kniht: yeah, my initial pluralization was incorect. that's what i get for trying to help people after being up 16 hours
[05:15] <lstarnes> icehawk78: it should work, but you should not use ssh when upgrading
[05:15] <Yanick_> djsjr, what you mean by altenate text install??
[05:15] <oorah> with the new version my brightness flickers up and down at startup and when i try to adjust it. is there a fix?
[05:15] <Psinetic> IndyGunFreak: i can't boot to my hard drive, it says it can't mount it and says something about two UUID's
[05:15] <IndyGunFreak> hmm.
[05:15] <Yanick_> djsjr, the install went alright, all graphics were showing right and all, and then reboot.... then BAM. The screen is all white and end of the line
[05:15] <djsjr> Yanick it's a different install ISO / Disk
[05:15] <coz_> hey guys.... is there a repository for degub symbols for karmic/?  I am not finding any .dbg in synaptic
[05:15] <Kniht> well get some sleep :)
[05:16] <icehawk78> Istarnes: So it's time to dig out a keyboard and mouse, then?
[05:16] <djsjr> yanick, sorry didn't see that you had already installed
[05:16] <lstarnes> icehawk78: that would be a good idea
[05:16] <icehawk78> Oh goodie
[05:17] <djsjr> Yanick when you get the white screen can you do CTRL-ALT-F3 and login with terminal?
[05:17] <Yanick_> djsjr, yes
[05:17] <IndyGunFreak> Yanick_: are you using ATI graphics?
[05:17] <hsn> does anyone know how to make a synaptic touchpad work in ubuntu? i upgraded from 9.04 and it doesnt work
[05:17] <ctmjr> DesertEagle: do you have qt4 installed vlc needs this for it's gui you can also run cvlc "some media file" to see if it works
[05:17] <Yanick_> IndyGunFreak, yes, but Ubuntu 9.04 worked well for the past 6 months without any problem
[05:18] <Yanick_> I am NOT installing 9.10 over 9.04, all .conf were removed, and the whole partition was wiped clean
[05:18] <_Er1K_> hsn: install the "gsynaptics" package, and make sure you have the "synaptics" driver explicitly in your xorg.conf....if you need an example to copy/paste, hollar
[05:18] <Psinetic> IndyGunFreak: Nehal, any idea what might be going on?
[05:18] <Yanick_> so why now won't it work?
[05:18] <lstarnes> Yanick_: it could be a bug in 9.10
[05:18] <jken146> Yanick_: have you done the integrity check on the CD you used?
[05:19] <[V]ortex`> what does the following do? sudo apt-get install -f
[05:19] <djsjr> Yanick, obviously a different radeon driver between 9.04 and 9.10
[05:19] <Yanick_> jken146, as a matter of fact I did, and it passed
[05:19] <jken146> [V]ortex`: it finishes installing packages that it's half done
[05:19] <Yanick_> djsjr, I was using the proprietary one before and it worked fine
[05:19] <lstarnes> [V]ortex`: it attempts to install and fix broken packages
[05:19] <Yanick_> even the recovery mode display a damn white screen
[05:20] <[V]ortex`> lstarnes: a google suggested this solution to my previous problem; should i go ahead?
[05:20] <[V]ortex`> jken146: thanks
[05:20] <IndyGunFreak> Psinetic: no, that doesn't make a whole lot of sense...
[05:20] <jken146> Yanick_: right.  That's the most obvious cause discounted.  Erm, try going into recovery console and setting it up with the non-free driver
[05:20] <Yanick_> I would HOPE at least to have a VGA only display in debug mode....
[05:20] <djsjr> Yanick, I'm sure that Ubuntu default installs the open source version and then you have to install proprietary version after boot
[05:20] <lstarnes> [V]ortex`: probably not
[05:20] <Psinetic> IndyGunFreak: >_>
[05:20] <jken146> Yanick_: oh, even then?  ewww, that's not nice
[05:20]  * Psinetic cries
[05:20] <lstarnes> [V]ortex`: that seems like an error on the repository mirror itself
[05:20] <IndyGunFreak> Psinetic: how did you attempt to do this install?
[05:20] <IndyGunFreak> were you disconnecting drives, etc?
[05:21] <[V]ortex`> lstarnes: so it is not my fault?, as in there's a server problem?
[05:21] <lstarnes> [V]ortex`: exactly
[05:21] <djsjr> Yanick , I miss xorg.conf
[05:21] <lstarnes> [V]ortex`: at least that's the most likely case
[05:21] <[V]ortex`> lstarnes: oh, ok... is any another way to get to another server?
[05:21] <IndyGunFreak> djsjr: you and me both... i took one I had on 9.04 and used it.. :)
[05:21] <lstarnes> [V]ortex`: I'm not sure if the security repos have a mirror
[05:21] <[V]ortex`> lstarnes: and this must mean everyone else is getting the same problem?
[05:21] <Yanick_> ... ok, that was weird
[05:21] <boomer84> Guys, is it ok to ask for a bit of (stupidly simple) technical help here?
[05:21] <Psinetic> IndyGunFreak: this is how i attempted it: "do-release-upgrade" or "do-release-update" i don't remember which
[05:21] <lstarnes> boomer84: yes
[05:22] <KB1JWQ> boomer84: Don't ask to ask, just ask.
[05:22] <KB1JWQ> boomer84: I promise we'll tell you if you're in the wrong place. :-)
[05:22] <gh0zt> don't tell them to not ask to ask, just answer
[05:22] <gh0zt> :P
[05:22] <IndyGunFreak> Psinetic: oh ok, you did an upgrade from 9.04.... was thinking you clean installed
[05:22] <lstarnes> [V]ortex`: actually, I think it is mirrored
[05:22] <boomer84> cool, I am trying to install usb-creator, I have unpacked the tarball but not sure where to go next, my usual route of ./configure aint working.
[05:22] <Yanick_> the thing is that I don't know how to configure my wifi other than with the applet (xserver).... and since I can't get anything to display, I can't configure my wifi
[05:22] <Yanick_> so I can't install the proprietary drivers
[05:22] <lstarnes> boomer84: what happens when you do that?
[05:23] <[V]ortex`> lstarnes: ok, thanks for your input; i'll try again tmr or something
[05:23] <lstarnes> Yanick_: there should be a way to configure it from the console
[05:23] <boomer84> says no such file or directory
[05:23] <Psinetic> IndyGunFreak: no, it wasn't a clean install. but it's really extremely frustrating that i'm having so many problems with ubuntu. >_>
[05:23] <lstarnes> boomer84: pastebin the list of files included with it
[05:23] <Yanick_> the question is: how do I remove the ATI drivers from the shell when I don't know the name of the package I need to remove??
[05:23] <IndyGunFreak> Psinetic: believe me, i understand, i ended up reinstalling on my laptop, and it seems to be running swimmingly now.
[05:23] <boomer84> Sorry Istarnes, I dont understant
[05:23] <lstarnes> boomer84: type ls
[05:23] <djsjr> Yanick, what happened?
[05:24] <Psinetic> IndyGunFreak: haha, no, you don't. i've had ubuntu for a month now and have been "fixing" the darned thing ever since. everytime i turn around something breaks.
[05:24] <lstarnes> boomer84: then go to http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste its output there, then give me the resulting link
[05:24] <Yanick_> djsjr, I don't know, was bombarded with CTCP requests or something
[05:24] <boomer84> bin, debian, desktop, gui, man. scripts, setup.py, usbcreator
[05:24] <wit_273> I am a loss on what to do to trouble shoot this problem -- I updated to 9.10.  Now my wireless will not connect.  I can see the network and it shows great signal (just not connected) until I try to connect.  Once I try to connect it shows no signal--but I still see it is there.
[05:24] <robin01> hi
[05:24] <boomer84> all folders apart from setup.py
[05:24] <lstarnes> boomer84: try python ./setup.py
[05:24] <Kniht> d9500: that works, but did what I was hoping it wouldn't-- closing down X. I just realized I can remote in to the VM though, so I'm going to do that, unless you know another way?
[05:24] <IndyGunFreak> Psinetic: well.. that happens... i cant tell you how many times i installed/reinstalled during my first 3-4mo.. but typically, its hard to really bork something in ubuntu
[05:25] <IndyGunFreak> Psinetic: but it does get easier once you get the hang of it... i rarely have problems that result in a reinstall nowdays.
[05:25] <Yanick_> how to configure xserver to use VGA only in the shell console?
[05:25] <Psinetic> IndyGunFreak: well...i still can't boot grub...
[05:26] <IndyGunFreak> Psinetic: yeah, are you on a 9.04 live cd, or 9.10 live cd?
[05:26] <boomer84> err, command not found. although I have an install.py the scripts folder
[05:26] <lstarnes> boomer84: you don't have python?
[05:26] <Yanick_> if I can at least get a GUI, I can manage to fix my problem, but now I'm in a dead end with a broken fresh 9.10 install
[05:26] <boomer84> err maybe not. lol
[05:26] <Psinetic> 9.04
[05:26] <boomer84> Istarnes, I will explain the real problem.
[05:26] <djsjr> Yanick, dpkg --get-selections | grep phpdpkg --get-selections | grep ATI
[05:26] <Psinetic> IndyGunFreak: sry, 9.04
[05:27] <lstarnes> boomer84: try python -c "print 'foo'"
[05:27] <IndyGunFreak> Psinetic: i dunno if you can install grub from the live CD or not.
[05:27] <IndyGunFreak> Psinetic: i know w/ regular grub, you could.. don't know about grub2(which i hate, by the way)
[05:27]  * Psinetic slams head on desk
[05:27] <exodus_ms> !grub
[05:27] <Yanick_> djsjr, was that the command to get the ATI packages installed?
[05:27] <boomer84> oh wait, I actually needed to type "python ./setup.py
[05:27] <IndyGunFreak> exodus_ms: problem is, all those docs, refer to grub.. not grub2.
[05:27] <djsjr> Yanick yes
[05:27] <oorah> with the new version my brightness flickers up and down at startup and when i try to adjust it. is there a fix?
[05:28] <tritium> 9.10 no longer finds my HP networked all-in-one fax option, nor does X-Sane find it as an available scanner in 9.10
[05:28] <exodus_ms> !grub2 > Psinetic
[05:28] <Yanick_> I'll try that, will need to reboot, be back after
[05:28] <bazhang> tritium, which HP model
[05:28] <djsjr> Yanick may need to try to grep radeon or flxgr depending on the name of the package
[05:28] <exodus_ms> IndyGunFreak, read the output from !grub next time partna :P
[05:28] <tritium> bazhang: Officejet L7650 All-In-One
[05:28] <djsjr> Yanick, don't remember the package names myself?
[05:29] <losha> !grub2
[05:29] <d9500> kniht: not really. you may be able to work around the closing down of x by setting your gnome session to remember your currently running apps when you log back in, and then once you're drop to VT and done whatever administering you needed to do from terminal, run sudo service gdm start and logging back in. hopefully, your apps will be running right where they left off. haven't tried it though
[05:29] <Psinetic> exodus_ms: problem with this is i have no idea how to install it to a disk that doesn't mount to begin with.
[05:29] <andey> im just curious, how long does it take for a raid to grow from 3 to 4 drives.... 1tb 7200k sataII each drive. Are we talking hours or days. I have a quad 2.4ghz, and 4gb ddr2 ram
[05:29] <Yanick_> djsjr, thanks! I appreciate it
[05:29] <kaikun> anyone know if mencoder comes with mplayer in ubuntu ?
[05:30] <boomer84> Istarnes, the real problem is that my computer wont seem to boot from a usb created by unetbootin on windows. the usb key works on other  netbooks but not on my eeepc so I thought trying usb-creator on linux might work instead
[05:30] <kaikun> nvm i got my answer
[05:30] <tritium> bazhang: it still finds the printer, just not the fax or scanner.  In 9.04, when installing a printer, I could choose between hplip and another driver (PS, I think).  The hplip driver offered found both the printer and the scanner.  No such choice over drivers in 9.10.
[05:30] <Kniht> d9500: thanks for helping in any case
[05:30] <Shwack> All of my sounds work except for in games, can anybody help?
[05:30] <bazhang> tritium, just checking the forums now, thanks for the additional info
[05:30] <djsjr> I can't select any drives under the partions install under live-cd, but I can see them in gparted?
[05:31] <San234> Arvan, u ther?
[05:31] <boomer84> Will try some other things n check back, thanks for the help. And now I know I am allowed to ask questions here I wont ask to ask ;-)
[05:31] <IndyGunFreak> Psinetic: have you tried running the commands to see what happens... probably would be difficult to use a 9.04 disk, to check grub on 9.10 system
[05:31] <tritium> bazhang: thanks!
[05:31] <Psinetic> IndyGunFreak: i'll try.
[05:31] <San234> guyz wen i took proxy in ubuntu the browser worked OK but IRC dint got conected
[05:32] <SoftwareExplorer> I once messed with ltsp, but now I don't need any ltsp images / related stuff, so how can I free up the space they use? is it safe to delete everything in /opt/ltsp?
[05:32] <San234> i dont hav internet in ubuntu so i hav taken proxy but the problem is that Google and yahoo are loading but gmail and yahoomail sites arent opening even xchat isnt conecting plzzz help!!!!!!
[05:33] <Shwack> I have sound with everything except in Ubuntus packaged games like tetris and such - does anybody know how to fix?
[05:33] <jeffhmb> Upgrade time! How slow are the servers?
[05:33] <IndyGunFreak> jeffhmb: dunno till you start. :)
[05:33] <Psinetic> IndyGunFreak: ok, i ran the first command: http://pastebin.com/d67b89fb4 but how am i absolutely POSITIVE it didn't just install it to the live cd  temp folder?
[05:33] <IndyGunFreak> they're always slow for at least a few days.
[05:34] <tritium> bazhang: it would appear to be an unfortunate regression in 9.10
[05:34] <djsjr> Jeffhmb, I torrented and got 9.10 in less than 6 minutes
[05:34] <San234> some1 plzz help me i have taken proxy but mail sites like gmail and yahoomail arent opening and xchat IRC is also failing to conect
[05:34] <IndyGunFreak> Psinetic: thats not what i was talking about
[05:34] <bazhang> tritium, from launchpad? is there a bug number?
[05:34] <Psinetic> IndyGunFreak: huh?
[05:34] <IndyGunFreak> Psinetic: scroll down to where it says "Recover grub2 via live cd"
[05:34] <tritium> bazhang: not that I've found, no.
[05:34] <d9500> kniht: you still here?
[05:34] <Psinetic> IndyGunFreak: ok
[05:34] <San234> guyz plzz help
[05:34] <jeffhmb> djsjr: I'm using dist-upgrade
[05:34] <Kniht> yes
[05:34] <bazhang> tritium, will keep looking :)
[05:35] <tritium> bazhang: me too.  Thanks!  :)
[05:35] <d9500> kniht: try host key (default is the ctrl key) + f1, f2, etc
[05:35] <djsjr> jeffhmb, sorry
[05:35] <coz_> San234,  if no one can help here try the ##linux channel... I am not up on networking issues at all
[05:35]  * Kniht buys d9500 a beer
[05:36] <d9500> kniht: thanks, but you gotta buy beers for the guys who started google too :)
[05:36] <Kniht> d9500: as soon as you said that I remembered it has a bunch of shortcuts with that key, besides ungrabbing, works perfectly
[05:36] <San234> coz_, if u dont know networking then can u tell me y my softwares arent getting installed in ubuntu/? i hav thier linux version setups still the y arent geting installd
[05:36] <Psinetic> IndyGunFreak: you want me to wipe my hard drive? "$ sudo fdisk -l" and "$ sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt"?
[05:36] <jeffhmb> San234: what's your networking setup? proxy?
[05:36] <Kniht> what did you query? (I couldn't find it)
[05:36] <IndyGunFreak> Psinetic: ?.. thats not gonna wipe your hard drive
[05:36] <San234> jeffhmb, ya  i hav taken proxy from my frend
[05:37] <Psinetic> IndyGunFreak: format disk doesn't wipe the disk?
[05:37] <d9500> kniht: use ctrl alt f1 in ubuntu virtualbox
[05:37] <djsjr> I wonder why the 9.10 installer will not see my hdd, but gparted and fdisk will?
[05:37] <IndyGunFreak> Psinetic: thats not the format disk command.
[05:37] <AAA_awright> The upgrade wants to install cvs and python, is there some way to figure out why with the change in repository URL? What is so incredibly broken that there is no rolling release?
[05:37] <IndyGunFreak> Psinetic: the first command, simply lists your partition layout... the second command, mounts whatever partition you tell it to.
[05:37] <jeffhmb> San234: socks proxy? how are you specifying it?
[05:37] <SoftwareExplorer> Psinetic: It list the partitions on a disk IIRC
[05:37] <Psinetic> you know what. just tell me how to put my home directory on the partition i put up for it before and i'll just do a clean install.
[05:38] <San234> jeffhmb, i went to preferences there network proxy their my frends ip and port 808
[05:38] <Kniht> d9500: think part of it was my use of 'terminal' instead of 'vt' too >< oh well, take care
[05:38] <IndyGunFreak> Psinetic: try doing what the faq says, it might work... hell your nowhere now, you might as well try.... fdisk only formats a drive whne you tell it to, and neither of those commands should do that
[05:38] <jeffhmb> San234: in Xchat? What Type: setting?
[05:38] <Psinetic> IndyGunFreak: ok
[05:39] <jbuncher> !grub2
[05:39] <San234> jeffhmb, sorry? dint got u?
[05:39] <bazhang> http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/models/officejet/officejet_pro_l7600.html#note5 tritium someone has it working in Karmic at least; need to find out who that is :)
[05:39] <subramaniam> hi ...i just upgraded frm 9.04 to 9.10 .....i lost my wifi....if i go to hardware drivers it says broadcom wireless drivers not install ... if i try to install i doesnt
[05:39] <jeffhmb> San234: are you using Xchat?
[05:39] <cycrosism> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8202752#post8202752
[05:39] <cycrosism> i need some help
[05:39] <tritium> bazhang: wow, thanks for finding that!
[05:40] <San234> jeffhmb, right now i m in xp i installed Xchat IRC in ubuntu but it dint worked i failed to conect to irc.ubuntu.com
[05:40] <jbuncher> subramaniam, you may have to use a wired connection to get your proprietary broadcom drivers installed so wireless will work.  That or you may need the cd in the drive bay.
[05:40] <jeffhmb> What did you set the Proxy Server Type to?
[05:40] <SoftwareExplorer> What should I do to free up space from ltsp images that I don't need anymore? Is it safe to delete /opt/ltsp?
[05:40] <San234> jeffmb, same is the problem with site google and yahoo are opening but gmail and yahoomail are not opening
[05:40] <icehawk78> Is the network upgrade for desktops interactive, or can I just start it overnight and let it run?
[05:40] <goddard> hello there
[05:40] <jeffhmb> San234: The choices are (Disabled), Wingate, Socks4, Socks5, and HTTP
[05:41] <goddard> Is there a Linux version of Safari?
[05:41] <Psinetic> IndyGunFreak: the hard drive seems to already be mounted as ext3
[05:41] <San234> jeffhmb, wer r these choices?
[05:41] <subramaniam> jbuncher: i hav a wired network....i click to activate the driver it doesnt ...it reports a bug
[05:41] <Psinetic> IndyGunFreak: wait nvm
[05:41] <cycrosism> I need some heelp
[05:42] <cycrosism> wtf was that
[05:42] <icehawk78> Floodbots flooding
[05:42] <quiescens> why exactly does there need to be 3 bots doing what looks like the same thing
[05:42] <SoftwareExplorer> goddard: I've ran safari under wine for like five minutes, but I dont usually use safari
[05:42] <IndyGunFreak> cycrosism: just ask your question, if we canb help, we will
[05:42] <cycrosism> This is my question http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8202752#post8202752
[05:44] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - If you couldn't speak to the channel during the past minutes, please try again now.
[05:44] <cycrosism> why are all these people joining then leaving
[05:44] <Psinetic> IndyGunFreak: uh..../etc/default/grub doesn't exist....
[05:44] <djsjr> cycrosism, good luck with getting DTV working on linux period, I've got a supported card and it don't work?
[05:44] <cycrosism> STOP FLOODING
[05:44] <marcelcohrs> weired
[05:44] <IndyGunFreak> Psinetic: yeah, i was afraid of that, you really need a 9.10 live CD to run those commands
[05:45] <marcelcohrs> WTF
[05:45] <cycrosism> Why do people do this do they have no lifes
[05:45] <Psinetic> wtf is going on with the irc?
[05:45] <Benalex> cycrosism you may disable join part  msgs
[05:45] <joe75> net split
[05:45] <cycrosism> KB1JWQ: Ty!
[05:45] <KB1JWQ> Not this time. :-)
[05:45] <IndyGunFreak> cycrosism: and when you call attention to them, it only fuels them
[05:45] <cycrosism> djsjr: So it wont work?
[05:45] <cycrosism> Then I shall switch to windows
[05:46] <Psinetic> cycrosism: good luck with that
[05:46] <cycrosism> if its THAT hard to get a tv driver working
[05:46] <Psinetic> cycrosism: don't even talk to me about how hard it is to fix a problem in ubuntu. >_>
[05:46] <IndyGunFreak> cycrosism: the problem is most of them don't have very good driver support.. i'ev got an old analog card that works great
[05:47] <subramaniam> plz help me out...
[05:47] <Kate> Hmm
[05:47] <cycrosism> and new ones ddont work?
[05:47] <IndyGunFreak> i didn't say that
[05:47] <Kate> Hey, anybody know how to get the Ubuntu installer to auto-purge MD raid devices on 9.10?
[05:47] <Kate> =/
[05:47] <djsjr> cycrosism, the newer the card usually the more immature the drivers
[05:48] <djsjr> Kate I saw something bout that in the release notes?
[05:48] <Psinetic> cycrosism: it really depends. hardware venders sometimes don't support linux, and WE have to make those drivers, it takes a while, because sometimes the drivers don't work. there are substitutes that you can use, but sometimes they don't perform at max perficiency.
[05:48] <cycrosism> why is that
[05:48] <IndyGunFreak> djsjr: the same could be said for almost any device under Linux
[05:48] <cycrosism> I just installed a shit load of drivers and it wont work :(
[05:48] <Psinetic> !language > cycrosism
[05:48] <IndyGunFreak> cycrosism: then write the developer and complain
[05:48] <Viking667> Any way to cache these debs so I can upgrade my Kubuntu at the same time?
[05:48] <djsjr> Indy, true, but it's a hardware manufacturer issue not Linux
[05:48] <Viking667> I'm currently using the software updater, it's on the downloading packages step.
[05:48] <Wingard> Hi. I am here on behalf of a friend who is currently trapped in install limbo.
[05:48] <IndyGunFreak> djsjr: EXACTLY!
[05:48] <Wingard> Ahem.
[05:49] <as5sin3> hi
[05:49] <Wingard> "What's that dpkg-- command that you use when an install breaks and you want to free it?"
[05:49] <quiescens> -f
[05:49] <djsjr> Indy, I learned a long time ago to buy with LInux compatibility in mind
[05:49] <quiescens> or was that apt
[05:49] <quiescens> hmm
[05:50]  * Psinetic goes to download the karmic cd. but IndyGunFreak, how do i burn a live cd when i'm using a live cd?
[05:50] <jeffhmb> Kate: what do you mean by auto-purge?
[05:50] <Viking667> so, any answers for my current problem, so I don't hit the bandwidth too hard?
[05:50] <IndyGunFreak> djsjr: yeah, i build all my own stuff, so i usually am researching for a while... laptops, i research a LONG time.. :)
[05:50] <IndyGunFreak> Psinetic: well, that could be a problem if you don't have two CD drives... can your machine boot a thumb drive?
[05:50] <bmears> hello
[05:50] <djsjr> Indy, I've got a Macbook Pro early 08 that works nicely with Ubuntu
[05:50] <Psinetic> IndyGunFreak: nope
[05:51] <SoftwareExplorer> Psinetic: Some livecd's let you run them from ram, if you have enough, I don't know about ubuntu
[05:51] <preecher> under u9.04 i had wireshark and wireshark as root and zenmap and zenmap as root--now after upgrading to u9.10 i no longer have the progs with root and dont even have them listed in software center or synaptic--any ideas?
[05:51] <goddard> Is there a Linux version of Safari?
[05:51] <cycrosism> preecher: compile them from source
[05:51] <Psinetic> SoftwareExplorer: i have 8 Gigs, if it can i should be able to
[05:51] <linc_bur> hi
[05:51] <ctmjr> cycrosism: what do you get when you run dmesg | grep dvb
[05:51] <IndyGunFreak> djsjr: yeah, i've got a 3yr old acer Laptop, that has actually worked pretty darn good from day 1.
[05:51] <jeffhmb> cycrosism, give it some time. you just posted ~30 minutes ago.
[05:51] <Psinetic> goddard, try sudo apt-get install safari
[05:52] <IndyGunFreak> Psinetic: how old is your machine?
[05:52] <losha> Psinetic: I don't think ubuntu does livecd run-without-cd. I think knoppix does. Google ubuntu toram
[05:52] <cycrosism> I get nothing ctmjr
[05:52] <Psinetic> IndyGunFreak: maybe a year, built it myself from random parts that weren't quite so random
[05:52] <Jason__> hi
[05:52] <coz_> goddard,  I wanted that as well  but  the closest thing would be google chrome already made for you
[05:52] <Psinetic> losha: what do you mean ubuntu doesn't do live cd?
[05:52] <IndyGunFreak> Psinetic: i see, and you're sure it doesn't booth a USB device?
[05:52] <goddard> is there google chrome for linux?
[05:52] <Jason__> The Translation in Kubuntu 9.10 is not so good.
[05:52] <Psinetic> if it does i have no idea how to do it...
[05:52] <goddard> how does ephipany match up??
[05:53] <ctmjr> cycrosism: is it a usb card?
[05:53] <cycrosism> ctmjr: yes
[05:53] <losha> Psinetic: you misread it. Ubunto does livecd, but not without having the cd inserted....
[05:53] <IndyGunFreak> Psinetic: you have to set it in your boot sequence int he bios.
[05:53] <Kate> So it auto-writes over the md type partitions =/
[05:53] <coz_> goddard,  yes there is google chrome for linux or you can get webkit and build your own :)
[05:53] <ctmjr> cycrosism: unplug it then plug it back in then run dmesg | tail
[05:53] <mneptok> goddard: i prefer Midori for lightweight browsing
[05:53] <Psinetic> losha, ah ok
[05:53] <d9500> goddard,  yes, but not the branded version. there's a browser called chromium built on the same source code as chrome.
[05:53] <San_> i m currently in xp cos i dont have internet in ubuntu so i took proxy of my frend in ubuntu google and yahooo loaded but gmail and yahoomail are able to load plzz help
[05:53] <Psinetic> IndyGunFreak: *sigh* hang on a sec
[05:53] <IndyGunFreak> Psinetic: here's my thinking...
[05:54] <maxjezy> anyone using a mobile connection?
[05:54] <San_> i m currently in xp cos i dont have internet in ubuntu so i took proxy of my frend in ubuntu google and yahooo loaded but gmail and yahoomail are unable to load
[05:54] <San_> i m currently in xp cos i dont have internet in ubuntu so i took proxy of my frend in ubuntu google and yahooo loaded but gmail and yahoomail are unable to load
[05:54] <maxjezy> i need help!
[05:54] <goddard> i see
[05:54] <IndyGunFreak> Psinetic: if you can boot a USB device, you can use the 9.04 live CD, to download a 9.10 live CD, use unetbootin to put the ISO on a flash drive(probably 2gigs).. boot it, and try to use the flash drive, to restore grub2
[05:54] <cycrosism> ctmjr: [28921.777479] dvb-usb: found a 'Leadtek WinFast DTV Dongle H' in cold state, will try to load a firmware
[05:54] <jbuncher> gnome-shell seems pretty interesting
[05:54] <losha> Psinetic: another possibility is unetbootin, which supports booting from isos without requiring a cd reader: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[05:55] <San_> CMON GUYZ HELP! M ASKING FOR HELP SINCE 2 HOURS!
[05:55] <San_> i m currently in xp cos i dont have internet in ubuntu so i took proxy of my frend in ubuntu google and yahooo loaded but gmail and yahoomail are unable to load
[05:55] <foo_> anyone else get the Grub Error 15 after 9.10 install?
[05:55] <Psinetic> OMG why is it so darned hard just to get ubuntu to freaking work?!!
[05:55] <Psinetic> for crying out loud....
[05:55] <tom-davidson> hi, i have hardy server. I installed some x apps (such as pulseaudio config tools). i ssh to the box from another ubuntu machine (ssh -X user@host) but when i try to run an app i get "Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:"
[05:55] <maxjezy> IndyGunFreak, you don't need a usb device, unetbootin can mount the iso from harddrive to
[05:55] <Necrogami> San_: did you set your nameservers?
[05:55] <bazhang> Psinetic, please calm down
[05:55] <Ignatius> somehow... I managed to completely foobar my ubuntu... I get grub error 17 and if I use a live distro (which I'm doing now) I can't access the partition with Ubuntu on it. Any ideas how I could get into that partition?
[05:55] <San_> SITES LIKE YAHOMAIL GMAILARENT OPENING IN UBUNTU EVEN IRC FAILS TO CONECT
[05:55]  * Viking667 shrugs
[05:55] <San_> NO I DINT SET
[05:55] <bazhang> San_, please dont use caps
[05:56] <Psinetic> bazhang: i'm trying,  but my computer has been out of commission for two days already...
[05:56] <maxjezy> Psinetic, just download unetbootin and it's running in 2 minutes
[05:56] <Necrogami> San_: lowercase please ...
[05:56] <maxjezy> if you got the iso
[05:56] <jeffhmb> Kate, i had a hard time with when I installed the last Ubuntu LTS on a server with existing raid partitions.
[05:56] <Necrogami> San_: you probably need to set your resolv.conf
[05:56] <ctmjr> cycrosism: did it load the firmware or no?
[05:56] <cycrosism> ctmjr: i dont know :(
[05:56] <jeffhmb> Kate, that was a while ago though ...
[05:56] <IndyGunFreak> maxagaz: but he's still gonna need to boot the "Live" version to try and repair his grub config on his hard drive
[05:56] <cycrosism> ctmjr: [29061.913300] dvb-usb: downloading firmware from file 'dvb-usb-dib0700-1.20.fw'
[05:56] <cycrosism> [29062.119062] dib0700: firmware started successfully.
[05:56] <D3RGPS31> i'm using the fglrx driver; 3D performance is perfect but 2D performance is aweful, videos and window movement is extremely choppy; what can i do (ati r hd 4850, ubuntu 9.10 x86)
[05:57] <San_> can u explain in simple words cos i m new in ubuntu just installed it yesterday
[05:57] <cycrosism> but  it wont find it on me-tv ctmjr
[05:57] <jeffhmb> San_, why are you trying to use a proxy?
[05:57] <losha> Psinetic: one reason is people insist on running stuff that's fresh out of beta. New software is buggy, folks. Try 8.04 LTS instead...
[05:57] <Necrogami> jeffhmb: i think it's because his local network isn't working
[05:57] <Necrogami> eg: he doesn't have the correct nameservers et.
[05:57] <Necrogami> set*
[05:58] <San_> jeffhmb, becos i want internet in ubuntu also
[05:58] <IndyGunFreak> losha: now thts just plain silly
[05:58] <ctmjr> cycrosism: do not trust me-tv it is not very reliable
[05:58] <cycrosism> ctmjr: What should I use then?
[05:58] <maxjezy> IndyGunFreak, there are lots of ways solving that prob
[05:58] <Necrogami> San_: can you be on irc and ubuntu at the same time?
[05:58] <San_> jeffhmb, actuall problem is that i havnt created a internet conection in ubuntu cos i dont know how to cos m new to it so trying proxy
[05:58] <maxjezy> IndyGunFreak, but indeed that way is one way
[05:58] <ctmjr> cycrosism: did you install the dvb-utils package?
[05:58] <IndyGunFreak> maxjezy: then by all means, offer to help.
[05:58] <gluonman> Anyone think it's a bad idea to install 64-bit Ubuntu when I have only 2GB of RAM?
[05:59] <cycrosism> ctmjr: ill install it now
[05:59] <Psinetic> IndyGunFreak: so basically it's like this: 1. Boot to ram with an ISO that i have to re-download -> 2. in lie cd-ram mode, download and burn the live-cd for karmic -> 3. boot to the new live cd -> 4. figure out how to fix grub and HOPE it works this time -> 5. MAYBE get my computer working in a week.
[05:59]  * Necrogami facepalms
[05:59] <jeffhmb> San_, what is your network hardware....
[05:59] <Necrogami> gluonman: no it's not a bad idea.
[05:59] <San_> Necrogamri, no IRC fails to conect this chat rooms in ubuntu i m having some proxy prob
[05:59] <jeffhmb> Kate, I'm looking up the raid stuff now.
[05:59] <maxjezy> go live and just reinstall grub
[05:59] <maxjezy> no big deal
[05:59] <bazhang> gluonman, its entirely up to you; 64bit is well supported now
[05:59] <San_> jeffhmb, asnt?
[05:59] <gluonman> Necrogami, bazhang, thanks
[05:59] <IndyGunFreak> Psinetic: boy you read way more into that than i even suggested.. where the hell did you get all that?
[05:59] <Hans_Henrik> Psinetic: whats wrong with grub?
[05:59] <jeffhmb> San_, what is asnt?
[05:59] <Necrogami> jeffhmb: good luck .. he's not on ubuntu right now so we can't walk him through step by step
[06:00] <Psinetic> IndyGunFreak: well that's what i thought you meant. sry
[06:00] <[V]ortex`> hello how do i map local drives (non ext. format) upon startup automatically?
[06:00] <IndyGunFreak> Psinetic: i think thats part of the problem you're not listening
[06:00] <cycrosism> ok i instaled it ctmjr
[06:00] <Psinetic> Hans_Henrik: grub doesn't work. that's what's wrong :P
[06:00] <maxjezy> Psinetic, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-24113.html
[06:00] <D3RGPS31> i'm using the fglrx driver; 3D performance is perfect but 2D performance is aweful, videos and window movement is extremely choppy; what can i do (ati r hd 4850, ubuntu 9.10 x86) :/
[06:00] <jeffhmb> Necrogami, also he seems to think this is sms or twitter
[06:00] <maxjezy> follow that guide dude
[06:00] <Necrogami> jeffhmb: lol
[06:00] <foo_> Anyone else get the Grub Error 15 after 9.10 install?
[06:00] <IndyGunFreak> maxjezy: thats for grub1
[06:00] <jbuncher> [V]ortex`, throw them in your /etc/fstab, with largely the same syntax, just need to change the fs option
[06:00] <jeffhmb> San_, ;-)
[06:00] <Hans_Henrik> Psinetic: like... error?
[06:00] <Psinetic> maxjezy: that might work if i had the right live cd, but i don't
[06:01] <cycrosism> ctmjr: what should I try now?
[06:01] <maxjezy> IndyGunFreak, sorry my stone
[06:01] <San_> jeffhmb, loL!hahah
[06:01] <[V]ortex`> jbuncher: what do  you mean? sorry i'm new
[06:01] <Psinetic> Hans_Henrik: yes, it gives me an error on bootup saying it can't mount the disk at all and says something about two UUID's (dunno what that is)
[06:01] <maxjezy> IndyGunFreak, no hard feelings bro, just try to help out
[06:01] <IndyGunFreak> maxjezy: here's the problem, since you've not folowed it at all,, he's trying to use a 9.04 disk(which uses grub1) to fix a 9.10 problem(which uses grub2), now if you're gonna tell people there's other ways to do things(insinuating i don't know), at least know whats going on
[06:01] <frank_b> I have 8.10 installed on a laptop and want to upgrade directly to 9.10, bypassing 9.04. What's the "apt-get dist-upgrade" command I have to use?
[06:01] <celestial> hi, after upgrading to 9.10, usb mice stopped working (touchpad is fine) what's the problem?
[06:02] <frank_b> (hi everyone)
[06:02] <maf2> hi
[06:02] <IndyGunFreak> maxjezy: but when you're not even paying attention to the conversation, you don't help at all.
[06:02] <jbuncher> [V]ortex`, google "adding mount points to fstab" or something like that, it should take you through it.
[06:02] <maxjezy> IndyGunFreak, i just got up from bed
[06:02] <bazhang> frank_b, there isnt one
[06:02] <[V]ortex`> jbuncher: ok thanks
[06:02] <IndyGunFreak> Psinetic: do you have a 2gig thumb drive?
[06:02] <jeffhmb> Kate, I had to manually clear out the partition identifiers so the auto-raid kernel code wouldn't fire up during install.
[06:02] <ctmjr> cycrosism:but they both need some configuration i use mplayer and freevo to watch tv
[06:02] <Psinetic> IndyGunFreak: i think we're all a little frustrated. the irc is flooded with people having problems left and right.
[06:02] <losha> frank_b: if your 8.10 does all you need, I'm not even sure why you'd want to upgrade...
[06:02] <frank_b> bazhang, oh, ok. yes, I was begining to suspect that. thank you very much for your answer. take care.
[06:02] <Psinetic> IndyGunFreak: i'll have to look
[06:02] <jbuncher> [V]ortex`, the file you'll want to edit is /etc/fstab (File System TABle}
[06:03] <Necrogami> IndyGunFreak: are you actually in indy?
[06:03] <maxjezy> anyone got a mobile connection to help me out?
[06:03] <IndyGunFreak> Psinetic: i'm not frustrated at alll, all he's done is make undercut sugestions that i'm tellignn you something wrong, and he knows squat about whats going on
[06:03] <bazhang> frank_b, do you have a separate home partition
[06:03] <frank_b> losha, I guess it's always a good idea to have the latest software
[06:03] <jeffhmb> Kate, I believe I did this from within the live CD, or perhaps using my old favorite for fixing stuff, sysresccd.
[06:03] <IndyGunFreak> Necrogami: beech grove more specifically, but yes
[06:03] <Necrogami> IndyGunFreak: did you goto BGHS?
[06:03] <cycrosism> ctmjr: How do I configure them?
[06:03] <ctmjr> cycrosism: are you in the usa?
[06:03] <cycrosism> ctmjr: Australia
[06:03] <Psinetic> IndyGunFreak: ok, well, then let's move on and see if we can't nick this thing in the bud. let me go to the restroom and grab an energy drink.
[06:03] <jeffhmb> Kate, I have no idea if ubuntu has made any changes to deal with this situation.
[06:04] <jbuncher> losha, because it's going to be EOL in 6 months anyway?
[06:04] <[V]ortex`> jbuncher: Ok thanks for the input! i'll upgrade to 9.10 and change from there
[06:04] <IndyGunFreak> Necrogami: nope, when i was younger, i lived in Indy, and went to howe
[06:04] <losha> frank_b: actually, the smart money says it's always a good idea to run a couple of releases behind the 'bleeding edge'
[06:04] <maxjezy> IndyGunFreak, now i know. but i keep my mouth shut cuz you can help him out, i thought he got the 9.10 or windows installed. really morningtired.
[06:04] <frank_b> bazhang, in this computer no. otherwise I could play with that, yes. I know how could I do that if I have seperate root and home partitions. thanks
[06:04] <Necrogami> lol okay IndyGunFreak i graduated from bghs that's why i asked lol
[06:04] <jbuncher> [V]ortex`, you should be able to get it set up in 9.04 first
[06:04] <Kate> Hmm
[06:04] <Kate> Weird. =/
[06:04] <Kate> Ya
[06:04] <IndyGunFreak> maxjezy: its best you stay quiet, lol...
[06:04] <jbuncher> [V]ortex`, what is the filesystem you are trying to get mounted at boot automatically?
[06:04] <[V]ortex`> jbuncher: after i upgrade, will the settings keep?
[06:04] <Kate> It's kinda annoying. There is purge_lvm..
[06:04] <IndyGunFreak> he did get 9.10 installed
[06:04] <pwnguin> so im having an unexpected difficulty; i upgraded to 9.10 and now firefox doesn't know how to handle .torrent files
[06:04] <Kate> But no purge_raid option :(
[06:04] <frank_b> losha, oh, ok. :) I didn't know that. my experience tells me you might be right. thanks for the tip :)
[06:04] <[V]ortex`> jbuncher: windows xp, cos my rthymplayer keeps not detecting the songs i have on my other hdd
[06:05] <jeffhmb> Kate, are these boot command-line options?
[06:05] <maxjezy> yeah
[06:05] <celestial> hi, can't get usb mice to work, i have two of them and none of them is working, though i clearly see its red light. usb thumbdrive is working fine and i don't know why i'm having trouble with just mice. someone help.
[06:05] <maxjezy> so, help me out then.
[06:05] <bravo03> pwnguin, FF isnt reading a torrent when asked to open or save?
[06:05] <Kate> installer through preseed file
[06:05] <cycrosism> ctmjr: I know Australia uses PAL?
[06:05] <silentx> Hey .. I have Ubuntu 9.10 .. and there is Keys issue " the output of apt-get update is attached " .. I have tried to clean the apt-get but the problem still the same .. could you help me please .. http://pastebin.com/m3b9c0847
[06:05] <jbuncher> [V]ortex`, they should, yes.  Do you know what partition (/dev/sda1 or whatever) that your xp partition is on?  and where you would like to mount it to?
[06:05] <losha> frank_b: most people assume newer is always better. That might be true for cars or refrigerators, but it isn't true for software...
[06:05] <[V]ortex`> jbuncher: another hdd
[06:05] <jeffhmb> I didn't think to look for that.
[06:06] <[V]ortex`> jbuncher: what do you mean? i don't understand?
[06:06] <frank_b> losha, :) I see...
[06:06] <cab938_lappy> Andyone use the update-motd package?
[06:06] <[V]ortex`> jbuncher: my 9.10 download is completing soon within 1 min.. and appartenly it says i cannot stop after it starts installing
[06:06] <ctmjr> cycrosism: look in /usr/share/dvb there should be freq's for your location
[06:06] <jeffhmb> I just set the partition types to Linux (83) after being very confused for a while.
[06:06] <cab938_lappy> it says it installs in usr/sbin/update-motd, but there is nothing there
[06:06] <[V]ortex`> jbuncher: so i think i'll do it in 9.10; there is no diff right?
[06:06] <cycrosism> ctmjr: But I don't think it is detecting it
[06:06] <Bragex9> I have major problems after upgrading to 9.10. The computer will not start properly. Only a black command screen...And I have no idea about how to operate from there
[06:06] <pretender> running unr 9.10 how do i stop that unr launchuncher and get back t the normal gnome thats in ubuntu
[06:06] <jeffhmb> I had forgotten that my recycled disks had been used in a different raid array.
[06:07] <jbuncher> [V]ortex`, there shouldn't be any difference, correct.
[06:07] <[V]ortex`> jbuncher: ok, i have to restart; if i have any problems i'll come back; thanks alot!!
[06:07] <frank_b> losha, and thinking better... I think I'm gonna take your advice on that. it's the computer my mom uses, and she's not interested on the latest features, just on functionality... :)
[06:07] <D7> is there a way to switch to regular desktop mode in netbook remix?
[06:07] <bravo03> D7, i don't believe so in 9.10
[06:07] <bravo03> somebody please correct me if i am wrong
[06:08] <jeffhmb> I'm getting about 15 kB/s for my upgrade speed.
[06:08] <jeffhmb> About 20 hours remaining.
[06:08] <jeffhmb> Nice.
[06:08] <almoxarife> silentx: did you use 'sudo'
[06:08] <gluonman> What is an optimal partition table for a dual-boot Ubuntu and Win7?
[06:08] <jbuncher> frank_b, on the other hand, if you're using Intrepid (8.10), security updates for desktop-related packages for that distro will stop in about 6 months, so you'll want to upgrade anyway.
[06:08] <D7> bravo03, really? bummer, I really liked 9.4 in regular desktop mode
[06:08] <losha> frank_b: in that case, leave well enough alone and use the time you saved yourself to make a backup of 8.10 in case you need it....
[06:08] <silentx> almoxarife: in which way ?
[06:08] <frank_b> losha, I might upgrade only later, some weeks from now, after some bugs have been solved...
[06:08] <jbuncher> gluonman, one for root, one for home, one for swap, zero for win 7 (har har har)
[06:09] <almoxarife> sudo apt-get............................................
[06:09] <silentx> yes .. that what i have done in the output attached
[06:09] <NoCode> http://www.webupd8.org/2009/10/fixing-popping-sound-in-ubuntu-karmic.html IS this safe to do to get rid of the popping noises in Karmic?
[06:09] <gluonman> jbuncher, I'm setting this up for work. So that's not very helpful.
[06:09] <nascentmind> hi. After i installed virtualbox and tried to install ubuntu 64 bit on it, it gives an error saying "installing 64 bit on an i686". my host os is ubuntu 64bit karmic. how can i fix this?
[06:09] <frank_b> losha, ok
[06:10] <losha> jbuncher: actually, unless there's a feature you cannot live without, 8.04 looks like the most stable release
[06:10] <frank_b> jbuncher, yes, like I said, I think I'll wait some weeks for bugs to be fixed and then install 9.10 before the support for 8.10 ends
[06:10] <ctmjr> cycrosism: according to your dmesg it loaded the driver and the firmware
[06:10] <cycrosism> ctmjr: But me-tv says no drivers are found and so does mythtv
[06:10] <jbuncher> gluonman, if it's anything like vista, I have 2 vista partitions on /dev/sda1 (that's the recovery), /dev/sda2 (Vista), and the /dev/sda3 is my root install, then /dev/sda5 is /home, with /dev/sda6 the swap.  It works well for me.
[06:10] <IndyGunFreak> losha: that is 100% ridiculous, why do you spread nonsense?
[06:10] <IndyGunFreak> 8.04, is just as stable as 8.10, and 9.04
[06:11] <jeffhmb> 8.04 is LTS, so it's a good choice for stability.
[06:11] <jeffhmb> I've been using it on my server since just after it came out.
[06:11] <silentx> almoxarife: yes .. that what i have done in the output attached
[06:11] <jeffhmb> Very solid, and only updates that are security or critical bugs.
[06:11] <bigfootbuilt> Anyone else noticing more lockups with 9.10, on laptops in particular?
[06:11] <IndyGunFreak> jeffhmb: 8.04 LTS, has only to do with a corporate environment, where you have t omaintain a lot of machines, or ins ome cases a server
[06:11] <Bragex9> is there a way to go back to the previoios version of ubuntu? Nothing works after installing 9.10. The computer won't even start. I only get to the command line...
[06:12] <jbuncher> losha, yeah, I'm still running 8.04 for my "production" partitions.  Can't remember why intrepid didn't work.  Jaunty's intel issues and the horrible version of kile they packaged made that a non-starter.  Karmic is quite solid though.
[06:12] <frank_b> well, I better get going. thank you very much for your help and for your tips, bazhang, losha and jbuncher. take care all of you. ;)
[06:12] <maxjezy> IndyGunFreak, some experience 9.04 less stable with intel grafics than 8.04.
[06:12] <nascentmind> anybody?
[06:12] <gluonman> jbuncher, thank you.
[06:12] <losha> IndyGunFreak: actually, I don't know of any statistics, official or otherwise, to prove it your way or mine...
[06:12] <IndyGunFreak> maxjezy: you've lost all credibility with me, so what you say means little
[06:12] <almoxarife> silentx: I saw it, hang on
[06:12] <IndyGunFreak> losha: which is why its nonsense to suggest such a thing w/o evidence..
[06:12] <jbuncher> gluonman, I should add that partitions 5 and 6 are in an extended partition, as you can only have 4 primaries on a disk.
[06:13] <maxjezy> that's sick thinking
[06:13] <IndyGunFreak> 8.04 LTS, doesnt mean its more stable, it means ubuntu will support it with security updates for(i think) 3yrs.
[06:13] <silentx> almoxarife: oky .. Thnx for your help in advanced ..
[06:13] <jeffhmb> IndyGunFreak, I realize that. I use it on my home server.
[06:13] <IndyGunFreak> jeffhmb: then why are you telling people LTS is more stable?
[06:13] <pwnguin> bravo03: sorry, paged elsewhere momentarily. it seems to download to /tmp but doesn't launch deluge when told what to run
[06:13] <IndyGunFreak> its not...
[06:13] <gluonman> jbuncher, alright.
[06:13] <ctmjr> cycrosism: run ls /dev/dvb/adapter0 or just ls /dev/dvb
[06:14] <bravo03> pwnguin, just save torrent and right click open with deluge for now ... : /
[06:14] <IndyGunFreak> LTS has nothing to do w/ stability
[06:14] <jbuncher> IndyGunFreak, next one will, though.
[06:14] <pwnguin> bravo03: i got that part, but this used to work
[06:14] <jeffhmb> IndyGunFreak, it's more stable in the sense that you can leave it alone once it is working for you, but still get security and critical updates.
[06:14] <IndyGunFreak> unless you consider not upgrading every 6mo
[06:14] <IndyGunFreak> jeffhmb: i mentioned that
[06:14] <jbu> hi all...can i revert the upgrade to 9.10 somehow?
[06:14] <jeffhmb> IndyGunFreak, super great!
[06:14] <jbu> back to 9.04
[06:14] <jbu> sound doesnt work
[06:14] <bravo03> pwnguin, look under your FF settings and maybe you clicked "Always do this for now on" Option by accident
[06:14] <losha> IndyGunFreak: it's my considered *opinion*. You're welcome to your own. I will note that you don't seem to understand the software life-cycle...
[06:14] <IndyGunFreak> jeffhmb: but thats not stability, thats support...
[06:14] <Anarki2004> I have a legit copy of windows xp home(fresh install), and I just installed ubuntu 9.10. I now get the error message inside grub "device not found". any help?
[06:14] <pwnguin> bravo03: always do what action?
[06:15] <pwnguin> do nothing is an action?
[06:15] <Hans_Henrik> jbu: tried go on sound-settings->hardware ?
[06:15] <jeffhmb> IndyGunFreak, whatever, I'll let you get back to winning your argument with the other guy.
[06:15] <IndyGunFreak> losha: lol, i'll note never to get advice from you, i understand the software lifecycle perfectly
[06:15] <pwnguin> bravo03: TORRENT file: Always Ask
[06:15] <bravo03> pwnguin, Main>Downloads
[06:15] <jbu> Hans_Henrik, are you talking about system->preferences->sound->hardware?
[06:15] <IndyGunFreak> losha: you insinuated LTS is more stable, and its not... its simply supported longer.... there's probably still bugs w/ 8.04 that haven't been worked out
[06:15] <Hans_Henrik> jbu: yup
[06:15] <bravo03> pwnguin, Okay good, so it works now?
[06:16] <Hans_Henrik> jbu: is it "disabled" there?
[06:16] <pwnguin> no
[06:16] <losha> IndyGunFreak: that's fine. Can we agree to disagree and move on?
[06:16] <jbu> Hans_Henrik, no, there's nothing listed
[06:16] <IndyGunFreak> losha: only if you stop spreading BS.
[06:16] <Hans_Henrik> oh
[06:16] <bravo03> pwnguin, no idea.
[06:16] <Anarki2004> I have a legit copy of windows xp home(fresh install), and I just installed ubuntu 9.10. I now get the error message inside grub "device not found" when trying to boot ubuntu. Windows boots fine. Any help?
[06:16] <IndyGunFreak> thast the 3rd time you've said that nonsense
[06:17] <demonspork> Anarki2004, you are in window right now?
[06:17] <jbuncher> IndyGunFreak, that could be true, but that also means 8.04 has had over a year of bugfixes since it's release, and 3 point releases since then to help with installer issues.  Also, the next LTS will certainly be "more stable", that's part of the dev plan.
[06:17] <IndyGunFreak> jbuncher: because the next LTS.. will be a NEW VERSION.. so yes, it will be more stable.
[06:17] <IndyGunFreak> jeez... talk about throwing smoke on an issue...
[06:18] <Bragex9> somone please hlp get my ubuntu pc work again....
[06:18] <jeffhmb> IndyGunFreak, oh lord, that's ridiculous.
[06:18] <IndyGunFreak> jeffhmb: whatever... use LTS if you like, i could truthfully care less, but spreading lies really helps nobody.
[06:18] <jbuncher> IndyGunFreak, no, it will be more stable than previous releases because they're going to sync with debian testing and not be a feature based released, unlike all previous releases (including LTS ones) where they sync with unstable.
[06:18] <bravo03> LTS is suppose to resemble a milestone for each release
[06:19] <Benalex> Folks, this is a support channel, would you guys please move your argument somewhere else? and leave this main for technical question
[06:19] <Benalex> s
[06:19] <pwnguin> jeffhmb: Canonical will typically dedicate more effort to testing and bugfixing leading up to an LTS
[06:19] <Hans_Henrik> jbu: here's ppl with same problem, maybe you should read it http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1178856
[06:19] <IndyGunFreak> jbuncher: lol, ok...
[06:19] <jeffhmb> IndyGunFreak, I use both the the LTS and the latest. It just depends on the application. This "spreading lies" stuff is just inflammatory.
[06:19] <jbuncher> IndyGunFreak, why is that funny
[06:19] <jbu> Hans_Henrik, I appreciate the help, I'll look at it now....looks like the thread is describing my same driver
[06:19] <jbu> hardware*
[06:20] <cycrosism> ctmjr: ls: cannot access /dev/dvb/: No such file or directory
[06:20] <IndyGunFreak> jeffhmb: cconsidering i wasn't talking to you anyways, nor really referring to anything you said, you shouldn't be taking it personally.. you clearly don't have a clue how this discussion started
[06:20] <jeffhmb> pwnguin: They really didn't for 8.04 LTS in some areas. But, I really give them credit for cleaning it up in the month or two after the first release.
[06:21] <pwnguin> Anyone else having troubles opening torrent files with firefox? (ie http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors#bt)
[06:21] <jeffhmb> IndyGunFreak, didn't stop you from lumping me in with the "lies" crowd.
[06:21] <Psinetic> How do i copy an ISO image from ubuntu over rdesktop to windows xp?
[06:21] <D3RGPS31> i'm using the fglrx driver; 3D performance is perfect but 2D performance is aweful, videos and window movement is extremely choppy; what can i do (ati r hd 4850, ubuntu 9.10 x86) :/
[06:21] <IndyGunFreak> jeffhmb: then don't get involved int he conversation... i hadn't said a word to you till you butted in
[06:22] <assoguerozen_sx> directx 10 works in wine?
[06:22] <Bragex9> what does "update grub bootloader" mean? Can that fix the problem with 9.10 not booting?
[06:23] <Banjooie> So I have dragged out an old computer after one of mine died in an unfortunate power outage
[06:23] <San234> plzzzz tell me how to install .bz or .gz files in ubuntu
[06:23] <Banjooie> It is still on feisty, and I am having a heck of a time upgrading this sucker, because I can't apt-get install update-manager.
[06:23] <fire_> hi, can someone help me with getting my 9.10 install working?
[06:23] <Banjooie> Because it has a bunch of dependencies I can't seem to fix. Where should I go to read how to fix this?
[06:24] <jeffhmb> pwnguin, works for me on 9.04 -- Transmission opens up.
[06:24] <MinusSeven> with grub, is the process the same as before with menu.lst, where you edit the file?
[06:24] <MinusSeven> or is there something else I have to edit?
[06:24] <d9500> San234, you mean tar.gz and tar.bz2 files?
[06:24] <jeffhmb> San234, .bz and .gz files are just compressed files.
[06:25] <bluegoon> 9.10 rocks baby!!!!!!
[06:25] <bluegoon> it rocks!
[06:25] <jbuncher> Banjooie, I'm not even sure if you can, Fiesty and its successor (Gutsy) are both End-Of-Life on the desktop at least, so I don't know if you can even upgrade them anymore.
[06:25] <aleix> hi, can anyone tell me where to find karmic's cds md5 sums?
[06:25] <Banjooie> Right. Right, that is the bit I want to /fix/.
[06:25] <fire_> I believe my GUI won't load.
[06:25] <Hans_Henrik> fire_: i guess there's someone here that can help you yes, but try be more informative with your help-request-post :p
[06:25] <Banjooie> Alternately: This thing is only a 1ghz 256mb ram thingy, is it worth my while to try to upgrade anyway?
[06:25] <Banjooie> Or should I just, like, try to find ancient software considering all it has to do is basically run finch
[06:26] <Benalex> MinusSeven GRUB 2 Basics in here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1195275
[06:26] <Hans_Henrik> banjooie: i'd say yes
[06:26] <MinusSeven> thanks
[06:26] <Banjooie> To the first or the last thing
[06:26] <d9500> san234, or by "install" do you mean that you've downloaded a source tarball (for example "source_foo.tar.gz), and you want to know how to compile and install the program?
[06:26] <Hans_Henrik> Banjooie: low spec, upgrade anyway? question.
[06:26] <fire_> well when I boot into Ubuntu (9.10) the little white ubuntu logo appears, but then a terminal login appears, that's flickering and won't let me enter anything. I then tried booting via recovery mode. That allowed me to type something in, but when I tried 'startx' it says no screens were found (or nvidia drivers or something)
[06:26] <Banjooie> Oh.
[06:26] <maxjizzy> Banjooie, i'm on 900mhz and 256 ram and 16mb grafic. it is superfast.
[06:26] <Banjooie> Okay. Awesome.
[06:26] <roccity_> Banjooie, you can try the mini cd and install xfce-core on it and build from there
[06:26] <jbuncher> Banjooie, can't say, not even sure what finch is :)  If you're just planning on having a stripped down box, maybe try debian or something where you can customize the install a bit more.
[06:27] <negativeglow> hey yall
[06:27] <Banjooie> The trick here is I am really trying for a low-effort option where I just type things and they happen, as opposed to things where I have to burn CDs. I will /do/ that if I have to I just really don't want to
[06:27] <Hans_Henrik> Banjooie: btw tried Xubuntu?
[06:27] <Banjooie> Well, no.
[06:27] <Bragex9> fire, exactly the same problem with my 9.10
[06:27] <jeffhmb> Bragex9, fire_, what video card?
[06:27] <Benalex> San234 Please read this http://amitech.50webs.com/installing/index.php.html#source
[06:28] <roccity_> Banjooie, what about crunchbang?
[06:28] <fire_> jeffhmb: NVIDIA GeForce4
[06:28] <Banjooie> My god but my ignorance is showing--I am assuming that is some kind of fancy desktop manager
[06:28] <roccity_> Banjooie, it has heaps of stuff that works out of the box
[06:28] <Bragex9> jeffhmb, I am not sure whick videocard. I think nvidia something
[06:28] <Banjooie> Mostly: I need to be able to A: surf the web to some degree (no sound required) and B: utilize delicious IM clients
[06:28] <jeffhmb> lspci |grep VGA
[06:28] <jeffhmb> 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV31 [GeForce FX 5600] (rev a1)
[06:28] <arussel> I'm having this error: java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: Cannot load 64-bit SWT libraries on 32-bit JVM when starting eclipse on karmic. Can anyone help ?
[06:28] <Banjooie> Also I guess a telnet program
[06:28] <jeffhmb> Try, "lspci |grep VGA"
[06:29] <jeffhmb> You guys are starting to scare me with NVidia driver problems.
[06:29] <maxjizzy> Banjooie, try SSL
[06:29] <Benalex> Same here
[06:29] <fire_> in cmd line, jeffhmb?
[06:29] <fire_> or 'terminal'
[06:29] <jeffhmb> I will have Karmic in between 6 and 30 hours. :-)
[06:29] <Yanick_> thanks to all those who helped me, I finally booted 9.10 with no white screen :)
[06:29] <Yanick_> yay!
[06:29] <fire_> whatever you call it :p ;)
[06:30] <jeffhmb> fire_, you have to type that in a terminal or in one of the virtual consoles.
[06:30] <jbuncher> jeffhmb, I upgaded from jaunty with a 6800 GT and it works fine (maybe it's a GTX?  can't remember)
[06:30] <arussel> is there a ia32 java packages on karmic ?
[06:30] <wooly> Hi all, I did a fresh install of 9.10 and I set my encrypted home partition to mount as home, and I told it it needed a username/password to decrypt/mount. I used the same username/pass as the previous install.
[06:30] <Hans_Henrik> Banjooie: you should read/consider this sometime http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/xubuntu
[06:30] <jeffhmb> jbuncher, yeah, but that's much newer than mine.
[06:30] <fire_> alright i'll try it in recovery mode.
[06:30] <Banjooie> I am frankly cool with whatever.
[06:30] <Banjooie> I am just really hoping I can pull something that doesn't require burning a CD
[06:30] <jeffhmb> fire_, what if you do Ctrl-Alt-F1 to get to a console?
[06:30] <wooly> unfortunately the home doesnt mount and I just have a .desktop file and a readme.txt. WHen I run ecryptfs-mount-private it says it's not setup properly. Can anyone help? I made a thread here Hi all, I did a fresh install of 9.10 and I set my encrypted home partition to mount as home, and I told it it needed a username/password to decrypt/mount. I used the same username/pass as the previous install.
[06:31] <raik> DSL internet not working on new 9.10 ubuntu?
[06:31] <jbuncher> jeffhmb, yeah, but not *that* much newer than a 5600.  1 year tops?
[06:31] <wooly> and since my home directory isnt writable, the OS/desktop is pretty much useless
[06:31] <Kate> Hmm
[06:31] <fire_> i'm in a console now
[06:31] <wooly> err that was supposed to be a link, not the same paragraph again
[06:31] <wooly> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8201612
[06:31] <jbuncher> Yanick_, how'd you fix it?
[06:32] <jeffhmb> jbuncher, I ran into a problem when upgrading from intrepid to jaunty with my nvidia drivers.
[06:32] <jeffhmb> it was a common problem and I found most of what I needed to know on launchpad, but it was a little nerve-wracking.
[06:32] <[V]ortex`> hello i just upgraded to 9.10, but it doesn't look any different. How to tell if this is actually 9.10 i'm running?
[06:32] <jbuncher> jeffhmb, ah, that sucks.  I *think* that went well for me, though I did it a while ago so I can't remember.  I know they were certainly *eventually* working, though.
[06:32] <lstarnes> [V]ortex`: lsb_release -a
[06:33] <[V]ortex`> lstarnes: do i type that into the terminal?
[06:33] <jbuncher> [V]ortex`, yup
[06:33] <fire_> jeffhmb: it returned 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce 4 MX 440 AGP Hx] (rev a2)
[06:33] <wooly> does anyone know how to decrypt and mount my encrypted home directory
[06:33] <paulus68> I just did a fresh install of 9.10 however I notice that my processor is running like crazy any thoughts what the reason can be? running 9.10 64 on 2ghz with 2 gigs of ram
[06:33] <Hans_Henrik> Banjooie: umm.. maybe you should go at #Xubuntu and ask how to change desktop environment.. (add Xubuntu repo's, uninstall gnome, install Xfce~)
[06:33] <[V]ortex`> jbuncher: ok yep karmic it is
[06:33] <raik> does ubuntu 9.10 support DSL connection?
[06:33] <jeffhmb> fire_, what does "dpkg -l nvidia* | grep ^ii" show you?
[06:33] <Banjooie> okay
[06:34] <DaveyAM> guys synaptic send me error when i try to download packs... i did use a proxy configuration today in my job but iam without proxy now.. synaptic try to connect to proxy :S
[06:34] <Yanick_> jbuncher, I did "sudo dpkg --get-selections | grep radeon" (and fglrx) and removed them all, thus allowing me to boot without white screen. I then reinstalled everything, re-activated the restricted drivers from hardware manager and everything was fine
[06:34] <[V]ortex`> Does 9.10 uninstall firefox 3.5? how come my links are broken?
[06:34] <jbuncher> Yanick_, ah, so was the problem with the open drivers?
[06:34] <lstarnes> raik: I haven't heard anything about it not supporting DSL
[06:34] <goose> DaveyAM: then disable your proxy
[06:34] <qq99> how does one find a file in linux?! never before would I have thought this so annoying, but with the myriad of package managers installing everything to cryptically named directories, you'd think something would be done about this
[06:34] <Yanick_> jbuncher, note that, when reinstalling the packages, some new packages were also installed, which I had not before
[06:34] <lstarnes> [V]ortex`: it installs 3.5
[06:34] <qq99> I'm looking for mysql_config
[06:34] <jeffhmb> Yanick_, that's the general approach I took when upgrading from Intrepid to Jaunty as well, although with nvidia drivers.
[06:34] <sloggerkhan> So mplayer doesn't work on 9.10 for me...
[06:34] <goose> qq99: "find" in terminal
[06:35] <lstarnes> qq99: locate mysql_config
[06:35] <goose> sloggerkhan: use VLC? It's better anyways, imo
[06:35] <DaveyAM> is done... but error continue...
[06:35] <raik> lstarnes my dsl internet conenction is failing to connect in new ubtuntu 9.10 ?
[06:35] <sloggerkhan> vlc sucks
[06:35] <wooly> does anyone know how to decrypt and mount my encrypted home directory
[06:35] <qq99> lstarnes: returns nothing
[06:35] <[V]ortex`> lstarnes: does this mean firefox 3 is uninstalled?
[06:35] <Yanick_> jeffhmb, I suspect it was the fglrx kernel driver....
[06:35] <jbuncher> jeffhmb, I may have done that when upgradeing as well.  Almost certainly didn't that when going from hardy to intrepid at least.
[06:35] <jeffhmb> It really seems like Ubuntu needs to automate this fallback process to non-proprietary drivers.
[06:35] <lstarnes> [V]ortex`: no
[06:35] <fire_> jeffhmb: No packages foudn matching nvidia.
[06:35] <fire_> ..is what it returned.
[06:35] <qq99> goose: returns find: `mysql_config': No such file or directory
[06:35] <sloggerkhan> vlc with 9.10 doesn't even do vdpau
[06:35] <lstarnes> [V]ortex`: 3.0 has been replaced
[06:35] <lstarnes> qq99: try locate my.cnf
[06:35] <goose> qq99: it's "locate", then. I forgot which command.
[06:36] <hydester> hi.  i was upgrade my amd64 from jaunty to karmic and it froze part way through.  now i can't boot back into the OS.  is there a smart way to salvage the install/upgrade via CD/DVD?
[06:36] <wooly> does anyone know how to decrypt and mount my encrypted home directory? Thread here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8201612
[06:36] <matyd> is there any way to move /home or should i repartition? i just used the default partition layout when i installed 9.04 kubuntu heh
[06:36] <jbuncher> [V]ortex`, you can install firefox-3.0 from the universe repository still, I think.  The only reason to do so would be if you have plugins that haven't been updated for 3.5 yet
[06:36] <zedster> anyone get intel-hda audio to work in 9.10?
[06:36] <qq99> lstarnes: thanks, I think I found it
[06:36] <sloggerkhan> normally I use smplayer, but all mplayers are not working with any video overaly... x11, xv, vdpau, etc
[06:36] <[V]ortex`> jbuncher: ok thanks; i'm supposed to create keyring... do you know waht is that? wrt empathy
[06:36] <jbuncher> zedster, what chipset?
[06:36] <sloggerkhan> incidentally, flash no longer works full screen
[06:36] <Tekmoor> Hi, a question for anyone: can ubuntu write/read properly to partitions that are formatted by vista/win7?
[06:36] <wooly> Tekmoor: yes
[06:37] <zedster> jbuncher: stac52xx
[06:37] <goose> Tekmoor: yes, it can handle FAT
[06:37] <DaveyAM> iam without proxy conf now.. soo why synaptic try to use it?? :s
[06:37] <jeffhmb> fire_, I think you left the * off the end of nvidia.
[06:37] <goose> DaveyAM: have you tried rebooting?
[06:37] <IndyGunFreak> Tekmoor: it should read/write NTFS ok also...
[06:37] <Bragex9> jeffhmb, I have the same problem as Fire. During installation I got several error messages about nvidia... 173 or something
[06:37] <jbuncher> [V]ortex`, it's the place where gnome will safely store passwords and things like that.
[06:37] <zedster> jbuncher: dell d830
[06:37] <DaveyAM> yes
[06:37] <fire_> oh.. I did. haahah thanks.
[06:37] <DaveyAM> 2 times
[06:37] <wooly> does anyone know how to decrypt and mount my encrypted home directory? Thread here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8201612
[06:37] <paulus68> !patience | wooly
[06:37] <paulus68> I just did a fresh install of 9.10 however I notice that my processor is running like crazy any thoughts what the reason can be? running 9.10 64 on 2ghz with 2 gigs of ram
[06:37] <Tekmoor> The reason I ask is I thought I read that ntfs is different in vista versus xp
[06:37] <jbuncher> zedster, ok, I don't have that one.  My intel audio is working though.
[06:37] <raik> my dsl connection not connecting on new 9.10? need help!!!
[06:37] <fire_> jeffhmb:  there's 4 results
[06:38] <fire_> do you want me to post them?
[06:38] <zedster> jbuncher: can you pastbin me your alsa.conf?
[06:38] <IndyGunFreak> Tekmoor: i dunno, all i know, is i mount read/write ntfs partitions no problem
[06:38] <jeffhmb> fire_, Sure.
[06:38] <fire_> alright.
[06:38] <lstarnes> raik: what kind of modem are you using?
[06:38] <jbuncher> zedster, sure, if you tell me where to find it
[06:38] <matyd> when you install ubuntu and select the default partitioning (all of the hd) is there a way to install say 9.10 or any other version for that matter freshly without losing all your stuff?
[06:38] <Tekmoor> IndyGunFreak: cool and they were formatted by vista or in linux?
[06:38] <fire_> 1st one is: nvidia-173-modaliases 173.14.20-0ubuntu5
[06:38] <jeffhmb> Bragex9, what's your video card?
[06:38] <wooly> can someone tell me how to decrypt and mount my home partition? I set the username/pass the same in the install and told it it had to decrypt/mount but it didnt do anything!! Please help I have an unusable OS now!
[06:38] <raik> i have a wireless ISP so modem is not really there. lstarnes
[06:38] <zedster> jbuncher: /etc/modprobe/alsa.conf
[06:39] <paulus68> !patience | wooly
[06:39] <[V]ortex`> ugh the program "telephathy butterfly" crashed on my; only that i didn't even know it was running, what gives?
[06:39] <IndyGunFreak> Tekmoor: honestly, i can't remember.
[06:39] <DaveyAM> i dont know what is the problem with my synaptic...
[06:39] <IndyGunFreak> i've had it set up this way for years
[06:39] <Bragex9> jeffhmb, I am not sure what my videocard is..
[06:39] <lstarnes> raik: so you're connecting using a wireless card?
[06:39] <Tekmoor> IndyGunFreak: okay thanks!
[06:39] <fire_> 2nd one: nvidia-185-modaliases 185.18.36-0ubuntu9
[06:39] <jbuncher> zedster:  don't have one, do have /etc/modprobe/alsa-base.conf though   Want that one?
[06:39] <raik> an antenae is connected at rooftop and that comes to splitter and to my pc. lstarnes
[06:40] <zedster> jbuncher: yes, my bad
[06:40] <[V]ortex`> what is the program "telephathy butterfly"? does anyone know?
[06:40] <node357> Hi, congrats on new Ubuntu. Anyone know how to enable line-in on a SB X-Fi card?
[06:40] <fire_> 3rd one: nvidia-96-modaliases 96.43.13-0ubunutu6
[06:40] <lstarnes> raik: what is your pc connected to?  is it using an ethernet cable?
[06:40] <Tekmoor> I'm sure I read that vista formats ntfs differently than xp and it's not fully supported by ubuntu... but maybe I'm crazy
[06:40] <jeffhmb> Bragex9, can you get to a console? Use Ctrl-Alt-F1?
[06:40] <fire_> anddd last one: nvidia-common 0.2.15
[06:40] <fire_> ^^ jeffhmb
[06:41] <jeffhmb> fire_, Bragex9, I'm probably going to hit the same problem as you guys.... in about 13 hours.
[06:41] <fire_> :s
[06:41] <DaveyAM> iam using pidgin and firefox with the new no proxy config without problems.. but synaptic try to connect using proxy conf.. i need to do something more ? :S
[06:41] <fire_> so you can't help us? :(
[06:41] <jeffhmb> fire_, Bragex9, take a look at this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1288302
[06:41] <truzzi> I just installed ubuntu 9.04 in my laptop.... killall doesnt work in ubuntu? o.O ( I keep trying to kill wpa_supplicant but it never goes >.< ) any ideas? And also when I plug my ethernet cable it doesn't recognize it...
[06:41] <jbuncher> zedster, http://paste.ubuntu.com/305677/
[06:41] <lstarnes> truzzi: try sudo killall wpa_supplicant
[06:41] <zedster> truzzi: have you tried sudo killall -9
[06:42] <lstarnes> truzzi: if that fails, add the -9 option
[06:42] <Bragex9> jeffhmb, the problem is that my keyboard does not have the function keys....
[06:42] <fire_> ah, thanks jeffhmb! :)
[06:42] <jbuncher> [V]ortex`, pretty sure the butterfly protocol lets telepathy/empathy chat on the msn network
[06:42] <truzzi> lstarnes: naaa, I was with root access ( sudo su )
[06:42] <fire_> i'll read.
[06:42] <truzzi> lstarnes: and I tryed kill -9 -now
[06:42] <lstarnes> truzzi: you should use sudo -i instead of sudo su
[06:42] <grumpan> Hi all
[06:42] <zedster> jbuncher: do you have pulse audio installed?
[06:42] <jeffhmb> Bragex9, surely you jest? Isn't there some way to enable them?
[06:42] <zedster> or oss?
[06:42] <node357> Does anyone know how to enable line-in on SB X-Fi card?
[06:43] <truzzi> lstarnes: I really doesnt like this in ubuntu, I am an old su man ;/
[06:43] <[V]ortex`> jbuncher, ok thanks!
[06:43] <wooly> anyone know of any other places I can go for support? Tried ubuntuforums and linuxquestions but havent go a response (besides the one that broke my system)
[06:43] <jbuncher> zedster, yup.
[06:43] <grumpan> pretty excited about karmic but UNR keeps freezing at startup & I have to hard shutdown :( anyone have any ideas?
[06:43] <zedster> jbuncher: lol, both?
[06:43] <node357> wooly, maybe you could ask here.
[06:43] <lstarnes> truzzi: sudo -i handles the environment better for me
[06:43] <poyntz> does anyhow know how to get xserver up and running again when upgrading to karmic broke it?
[06:43] <paulus68> DaveyAM: you should go into system administration synaptic package manager choose preferences network tab and see zhat is mentioned there
[06:43] <truzzi> lstarnes: but any ideas why it doesn't recognize the ethernet cable?
[06:43] <judibeefl> unr?
[06:43] <wooly> node357 I tried someone keeps telling me to "have patience"
[06:43] <zedster> grumpan: need more info, try telling grub to be verbose
[06:43] <wooly> does anyone know how to decrypt and mount my encrypted home directory? Thread here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8201612
[06:44] <lstarnes> truzzi: that sounds like either an issue with networkmanager or an issue with your drivers
[06:44] <[V]ortex`> how do i get rhythmbox to auto detect songs on other drives so that i don't have to keep loading them at startup?
[06:44] <jbuncher> zedster, I guess?  this karmic install is an upgrade from a jaunty fresh install, and I haven't really mucked with audio, so whatever should be there should be there
[06:44] <savior021> does anyone know of a player for ubuntu that supports m2ts????
[06:44] <poyntz> one of the most significant problems, is I can't do anything from console because I took my username out of the admin group :/
[06:44] <zedster> jbuncher: hmm... I did the same things and go nothing :-/
[06:44] <poyntz> so I can't use sudo...
[06:44] <jeffhmb> fire_, Bragex9, another thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8163944#post8163944
[06:44] <savior021> tried kaffeine but doesnt support
[06:44] <node357> yeah wooly, I've heard that... instead of trying to answer... people just tell you to be quiet.. I could try to help you, if you ask a question.
[06:44] <truzzi> lstarnes: I dont know.... the live cd worked amazingly
[06:44] <savior021> anyone?
[06:44] <fire_> it's working! :D
[06:45] <wooly> node357: i just did, about decrypting and mounting my home directory
[06:45] <fire_> thanks, jeffhmb! :)
[06:45] <lstarnes> poyntz: you could try booting into recovery mode and using gpasswd -a USERNAME admin
[06:45] <jbuncher> zedster, yeah, probably too different of chipsets or something.  I've really enjoyed the "all intel" chipset on this thing, haven't really had an issue with audio/graphics/wireless ever.
[06:45] <truzzi> i am now updating everything to see what happens lstarnes:
[06:45] <node357> oh sorry wooly, I wasn't here when you said it.
[06:45] <reflous> for some reason I can't select the font "Bitstream Vera Sans Roman" anyone know why that is & how I can fix it?
[06:45] <poyntz> lstarnes: I accidentally partitioned over recovery mode. is there another way?
[06:45] <zedster> jbuncher: ya, dell really messed up when they went with the stac chips
[06:45] <jeffhmb> fire_, please list the steps you did to get it working.
[06:45] <savior021> does anyone know of a player for ubuntu that supports m2ts????
[06:45] <fire_> the first link you posted.
[06:45] <fire_> someone had posted a method.
[06:46] <savior021> ???
[06:46] <fire_> I did it a little differently to what they did, so I'll post it.
[06:46] <Psinetic> I need some help. I'm on Ubuntu 9.04, i need to make a fresh install, but i can't burn the live cd b/c i only have one cd drive. Now I've got my windows laptop networked to my desktop directly (it doesn't have internet capability), i can rdesktop to it. i need to  transfer this .iso image for the 9.10 ubuntu over to the desktop of my windows computer. can anyone help me with this please?
[06:46] <jbuncher> reflous, it got replaced with the deja vu fonts, so it doesn't exist anymore.  This pisses off mathematica 6 by the way, so you'll want to set up a font substitution if that's what you're using.
[06:46] <lstarnes> poyntz: ubuntu's recovery mode uses the same partition as the regular install
[06:46] <node357> Sorry savior021, I don't know.
[06:46] <wooly> node357: i've got a thread about it here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1305339 basically another guy said he had the same problem but the installer asked if he wanted to decrypt his home and it worked so I did that and it failed
[06:46] <lstarnes> poyntz: it should be an option in the grub menu
[06:46] <savior021> dayummmmm
[06:46] <jeffhmb> fire_, "dpkg-reconfigure nvidia-185-kernel-source" ?
[06:46] <jbuncher> zedster, what brand are the stac chips?  I don't think I've heard of them......
[06:46] <reflous> jbuncher, doh - what is an equivalent?
[06:46] <fire_> I did sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak
[06:46]  * node357 checks out the thread
[06:46] <poyntz> lstarnes: yeah, that's what I mean. it's not. all the recovery modes are for DL only :/
[06:46] <fire_> and then sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf
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[06:47] <wooly> node357 thanks!
[06:47] <jbuncher> reflous, the deja vu fonts should be an equivalent, deja vu just has some extra glyphs and such apparently.
[06:47] <jbu> if someone puts a realtek karmic sound patch in the ubuntu store i will buy
[06:47] <lstarnes> poyntz: did you ever set a root password?
[06:47] <[V]ortex`> how do i install flash?
[06:47] <jeffhmb> fire_, OK, yes that often does the job. I was trying to help out somebody here yesterday, but that method did not work.
[06:47] <DaLvLaL> anyone here uses apt-p2p? I can't even get apt-get update to finish with that...it just freeze
[06:47] <jbuncher> reflous, from what I could tell, deja vu was a superset of bistream vera, so that's why bitstream vera got removed.
[06:47] <fire_> and then sudo aptitude install nvidia-173-kernal-source
[06:47] <fire_> and then startx
[06:47] <lstarnes> [V]ortex`: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[06:47] <fire_> and boom! it worked :D
[06:47] <Bragex9> jeffhmb, should I try to do the same as Fire?
[06:47] <jeffhmb> fire_, oh, you needed 173?
[06:48] <fire_> I'm not sure.
[06:48] <zedster> jbuncher: stac is an idt holdover, I think they bought someone else and use the chip for a little
[06:48] <reflous> jbuncher, ah, man that looks a lot better, thanks a lot
[06:48] <lstarnes> wooly: I think there may be a way to recover data from ecryptfs, but I'll need some time to figure out the procedure
[06:48] <fire_> I just did what someone had said on the first link you posted for me to look at.
[06:48] <jeffhmb> Bragex9, the removal of the xorg.conf is always a good first thing to try.
[06:48] <Psinetic> anyone know how to do this pls?
[06:48] <[V]ortex`> lstarnes, is there a package for media apps and fonts?
[06:48] <jbuncher> reflous, what were you trying to use that font in?
[06:48] <node357> Sorry wooly, no idea.. :(
[06:48] <fire_> Bragex9: It worked for me, can't hurt to try.
[06:48] <wooly> lstarnes: i have to recover? There's no way to simply mount it? I backed up /var/lib/ecryptfs if it's of any use
[06:48] <lstarnes> [V]ortex`: ubuntu-restricted-extras and msttcorefonts might be relevant
[06:48] <raik> lstarnes, yes it is using ethernet cable.
[06:48] <reflous> jbuncher, for my fixed width font, every thing I picked made it look HORRIBLE until I tried DejaVu Sans Mono Book
[06:49] <wooly> node357 thanks for looking...I wish they would have this better supported before they included it in the OS!!
[06:49] <Bragex9> Fire, I wil try now
[06:49] <[V]ortex`> lstarnes, that's waht i was looking for thanks!
[06:49] <wooly> especially when it can render your system useless
[06:49] <fire_> thanks for all the help :)
[06:49] <wooly> i cant write any configuration files to home so I have no desktop
[06:49] <poyntz> lstarnes: yeah, but I can't use sudo because I took my username out of the admin group :/
[06:49] <raik> lstarnes yes it is using ethernet cable
[06:49] <lstarnes> wooly: I'm not sure if you can copy that data into the new /var/lib/ecryptfs
[06:49] <[V]ortex`> lstarnes, how do i access that restricted extras?
[06:49] <lstarnes> raik: I saw.  please try not to repeat
[06:49] <node357> I know wooly.. they release every 6 months whether its' ready or not... I'm still stuck in Windows :|
[06:49] <lstarnes> [V]ortex`: it's a package.
[06:49] <wooly> yea /var/lib/ecryptfs isnt even used in 9.10 apparently
[06:49] <Random832> so... the icon isn't shown in the upper left corner anymore in the human theme... how do i get it back short of changing to a different window manager theme
[06:49] <[V]ortex`> lstarnes, do i search for it in the synap?
[06:49] <fire_> is it Ctrl+Alt+Backspace that restarts graphics or something?
[06:50] <lstarnes> [V]ortex`: yes.  it is a package
[06:50] <jbuncher> reflous, ah ok.  Well, glad it helped!  It took me *forever* to figure out why the mathematica 6 fonts in some places were ridiculously pixelated.  Apparently the choice of bitstream was hard-coded in somewhere, without a font substitution if it couldnt find them.  Had to stumble upon that one by accident and set up the right font substitution so things were sane.
[06:50] <Bragex9> Fire, was it the post of adder1972 you used to get it work?
[06:50] <lstarnes> [V]ortex`: so you look for it in a package manager.
[06:50] <rafiq> a black shadow is blocking my screen,anyone one know how to fix it?
[06:50] <node357> fire_, you have to activate that key combination in the keyboard layout settings.
[06:50] <lstarnes> fire_: that restarts the display service
[06:50] <fire_> yes, Bragex9 :)
[06:50] <wooly> node357 so back to my other question...any other places where I can get support? I tried the ecryptfs irc but the server was down
[06:50] <fire_> node357: thanks I'll do that now.
[06:50] <lstarnes> raik: what is the ethernet cable connected to?
[06:50] <reflous> jbuncher, haha that is some bad coding
[06:50] <truzzi> there is any specific distribution for notebooks? or the 9.10 will work fine?
[06:50] <jeffhmb> fire_, that doesn't work in ubuntu by default. You have to enable that somewhere. You should be able to find it on google.
[06:50] <lstarnes> wooly: there's also ##linux on this network
[06:50] <jbuncher> zedster, ah ok.  I just have the ICH7 family hda intel audio.
[06:51] <wooly> thanks
[06:51] <jbuncher> reflous, that's Wolfram for ya.
[06:51] <[V]ortex`> lstarnes, do i have to change sources first?
[06:51] <node357> Only really busy forum I know for general GNU/Linux questions is linuxquestions.org :/
[06:51] <lstarnes> [V]ortex`: no
[06:51] <raik> it is connected to small device just like spliiter where the ethernet cable from the rooftop device is also connected. and the device is powered by an adapter lstarnes
[06:51] <lstarnes> [V]ortex`: you might need the multiverse repo
[06:52] <[V]ortex`> lstarnes, sorry i still don't understand. What is a repo?
[06:52] <node357> I'm no help. But I'm good at asking for help. Anyone know how to enable line-in on the SB X-Fi card?
[06:52] <lstarnes> [V]ortex`: repository
[06:52] <lstarnes> [V]ortex`: software source
[06:52] <rafiq> a black shadow is blocking my screen,leaving me to forcequit,anyone one know how to fix it?
[06:52] <[V]ortex`> lstarnes, is it under ubuntu software centre?
[06:52] <lstarnes> [V]ortex`: I don't know.  maybe
[06:52] <rafiq> a black shadow is blocking my screen,leaving me to forcequit,anyone one know how to fix it?
[06:53] <Concretesledge> how can i rip a dvd
[06:53] <Concretesledge> down to a cd
[06:53] <huangguoji> helo
[06:53] <Madpilot> is Launchpad timing out for anyone else, or does it just hate me tonight?
[06:53] <lstarnes> [V]ortex`: I usually do it the old way (system > administration > software sources or /etc/apt/sources.list)
[06:53] <rafiq> a black shadow is blocking my screen,leaving me to forcequit,anyone one know how to fix it?
[06:53] <jeffhmb> rafiq, turn off the bright light behind your head?
[06:53] <node357> Madpilot, I find it slow, but it does respond here.
[06:53] <[V]ortex`> lstarnes, ok thanks, that was helpful
[06:53] <jeffhmb> rafiq, just kidding, what do you mean?
[06:53] <Yaya_> Whats up guys
[06:53] <Random832> in karmic my setting for touchpad clicks being disabled isn't preserved from jaunty
[06:53] <Random832> >_<
[06:53] <fire_> thanks for that. :)
[06:53] <Madpilot> node357, lucky you, trying to file a bug and it's timed out six or eight times on me
[06:54] <Infinitas> Switching from kde to gnome today, woot. :)
[06:54] <lstarnes> raik: were you using another version of ubuntu before?
[06:54] <node357> Ugh Madpilot, that sucks.
[06:54] <DaveyAM> 3d cube effect for my desktop? where i need to go? what url ? :)
[06:54] <Yaya_> Can anyone help me out
[06:54] <Random832> (i only had to go in and change again, but what else am i going to have to configure again? that's a user setting, how'd my profile get changed?)
[06:54] <Psinetic> I need some help. I'm on Ubuntu 9.04, i need to make a fresh install, but i can't burn the live cd b/c i only have one cd drive. Now I've got my windows laptop networked to my desktop directly (it doesn't have internet capability), i can rdesktop to it. i need to  transfer this .iso image for the 9.10 ubuntu over to the desktop of my windows computer. can anyone help me with this please?
[06:54] <Madpilot> node357, can't even get thru to LP to file a bug against LP :)
[06:54] <lstarnes> DaveyAM: it comes with the plugin package for compiz
[06:54] <judibeefl> what is in the restricted extras?
[06:54] <jbuncher> DaveyAM, install the compizconfig-settings-manager, play around in there.
[06:54] <Yaya_> Can anyone help me out :(?
[06:54] <raik> yes i was using 9.04 and net was running fine with the same settings and steps. lstarnes
[06:54] <lstarnes> DaveyAM: if you have visual effects enabled, you can use it
[06:54] <node357> haha Madpilot
[06:54] <jbuncher> !ask | Yaya_
[06:54] <DaveyAM> compiz? i have full visual effects enabled
[06:55] <Yaya_> Ok
[06:55] <lstarnes> raik: it could be a driver issue
[06:55] <rafiq> oh  imean,bowser complains its because of newly opened site,jus some shadow kind of thing cover window and nothin can be done except forcequit
[06:55] <DaveyAM> but i havent that effect :S
[06:55] <jeffhmb> Psinetic, why can't you burn the CD from your ubuntu box?
[06:55] <lstarnes> raik: see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1307107
[06:55] <Yaya_> Im trying to install 9.10 from the ISO file, any idea how i can run the installer? I already have the iso mounted
[06:55] <jbuncher> DaveyAM, that's why I said to install the settings-manager, so that you can go in and really tweak things, such as turning on the cube
[06:55] <lstarnes> Yaya_: is it the alternate iso?
[06:55] <raik> ok lstarnes
[06:55] <fire_> does anyoe know if 9.10 has a wallpaper slideshow feature?
[06:56] <Psinetic> jeffhmb: because i have to use the live cd from my box....
[06:56] <Yaya_> No, I'm running 8.04 and the update servers are running very slow
[06:56] <sohrab> hi all
[06:56] <rafiq> jeffhmb: are u getting me?
[06:56] <sohrab> i have a problem
[06:56] <node357> Could someone please answer me? How do I enable line-in on a SB X-Fi sound card?
[06:56] <sohrab> ?
[06:56] <Yaya_> Its the standard i386
[06:56] <raik> lstarnes that thread is created by me
[06:56] <DaveyAM> where i can get the compizconfig-settings-manager?
[06:56] <lstarnes> Yaya_: you should probably burn it onto a disc and boot from it
[06:56] <sohrab> hos know how could i work with smbfs ?
[06:56] <jeffhmb> rafiq, sorry no. I didn't see any other messages from you until this one.
[06:56] <zhaozhou> Yaya_: How are you trying to install this? Which installer do you want to start?
[06:56] <PatrickStarfish> fire_ : I don't see one, except it does include a space pictures slideshow, don't know if you can change the pics
[06:57] <lstarnes> DaveyAM: look in the package manager
[06:57] <jeffhmb> Psinetic, did you dowloand the 9.10 iso to your 9.04 box?
[06:57] <bazhang> DaveyAM, from synaptic package manager
[06:57] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[06:57] <jbuncher> DaveyAM, should just be in the repositories, though it might be in universe.
[06:57] <Yaya_> I'm trying to start the installer from the ISO image
[06:57] <lstarnes> DaveyAM: it may already be somewhere in the appearence settings
[06:57] <poyntz> lstarnes: is there no way for me to get access? i'm on DL atm
[06:57] <lstarnes> Yaya_: that isn't supported afaik
[06:57] <lstarnes> poyntz: DL?
[06:57] <zhaozhou> Yaya_: The "install ubuntu"-one?
[06:57] <poyntz> lstarnes: DreamLinux
[06:57] <poyntz> lstarnes: I'm dual booting
[06:58] <poyntz> lstarnes: both my xservers are screwed
[06:58] <Psinetic> jeffhmb: if you had noticed before, i can't boot to my box and am currently in live cd of 9.04. i can't burn it on here because i'm using the only cd drive i have. so i need to use my laptop, which is networked directly to my box.
[06:58] <node357> Yaya_, the only thing that will work if you just mount the image is Wubi.
[06:58] <sohrab> i need to active smbfs
[06:58] <judibeefl> can anyone tell me what is the restricted package?
[06:58] <Yaya_> yea, buts a .exe
[06:58] <poyntz> lstarnes: the only difference is that I can actually do things on the DL console... karmic is really tossed up (so I can't run apps)
[06:58] <lstarnes> !ubuntu-restricted-extras | judibeefl
[06:58] <zhaozhou> Yaya_: Short answer; you can't.
[06:58] <DaveyAM> i find compizconfig-settings-manager in synaptic but crap >.< i have the same error...
[06:58] <poyntz> lstarnes: not to mention I cant use sudo
[06:59] <Yaya_> I;m trying to pull off a fresh install from the ISO image
[06:59] <jeffhmb> Psinetic, oh yes, the grub, grub2, etc. discussion. Yes, I didn't follow all of that.
[06:59] <kankro> Hello
[06:59] <jbuncher> DaveyAM, what error?
[06:59] <Psinetic> jeffhmb: it's ok
[06:59] <zhaozhou> Yaya_: Then you'd have to actually boot the ISO.
[06:59] <lstarnes> poyntz: for ubuntu, edit its command line when booting so that it has the root=blah part followed by ro single
[06:59] <DaveyAM> i cant download anything because synaptic try to connect with proxy
[06:59] <DaveyAM> i did use a proxy today but not now..
[06:59] <jeffhmb> Psinetic, so you just want to get the 9.10 iso from the 9.04 box to the windows lappy. right?
[06:59] <San234> hey guyz! plzzz help! me! i want to install a software named ipmsg for LAN i download tar.gz file its a zip like file now wat to do to instal? in ubuntu
[06:59] <poyntz> lstarnes: without sudo I can't apt-get update && agupgrade my way out out of anything :/
[06:59] <Yaya_> So it can't be done unless i burn the image?
[06:59] <San234> hey guyz! plzzz help! me! i want to install a software named ipmsg for LAN i download tar.gz file its a zip like file now wat to do to instal? in ubuntu
[06:59] <node357> judibeefl, as far as I can tell, restricted-extras are software that are proprietary or could have patent issues.
[06:59] <DaveyAM> and synaptic send me error...
[06:59] <sohrab> i need to install smbfs autofs
[06:59] <K4nkr0> ..
[06:59] <jbuncher> DaveyAM, Ah, yeah.  no idea.
[07:00] <sohrab> whos working
[07:00] <poyntz> lstarnes: i'll give it a shot
[07:00] <lstarnes> poyntz: if you can do what I just described, it should get you into ubuntu's recovery console
[07:00] <poyntz> lstarnes: menu.lst yeah?
[07:00] <node357> Attempting to repress mounting frusration.
[07:00] <[V]ortex`> does 9.10 support ubuntu-restricted-extras? i can't find it  in my synp repo (multiverse)
[07:00] <judibeefl> node  TY
[07:00] <DaveyAM> iam using pidgin and firefox without problem because i disable the proxy
[07:00] <lstarnes> poyntz: yes
[07:00] <lstarnes> [V]ortex`: yes
[07:00] <node357> np judibeefl
[07:00] <[V]ortex`> lstarnes, i still can't find it =(
[07:00] <Yaya_> Ok...then a second thought...is there a thrid party update server i can use?
[07:00] <lstarnes> poyntz: from there, you can add yourself back to the group with sudo gpasswd -a USER admin
[07:00] <[V]ortex`> lstarnes, can you kindly point the way?
[07:00] <jeffhmb> San234, go to a terminal window or console, and type "tar -xzvf file.tar.gz"
[07:00] <DaveyAM> iam using direct dhcp but synaptic try to connect to proxy :(
[07:00] <Infinitas> Excuse me, can anyone tell me the best packages for audio/video codecs on ubuntu and which package manager to get them from?
[07:00] <Sagaci> where's the equivalent of /boot/grub/menu.lst in ubuntu 9.10
[07:00] <shahdharmit> I ran the livecd of Karmic. I use Fedora 11 and ran "sudo os-prober" but it didn't detect Fedora. I need to run Fedora too. What shall I do?
[07:01] <DaveyAM> what i need to do guys?
[07:01] <node357> I'm trying to enable line-in on SB X-Fi sound card, but it doesn't work in GNOME mixer or alasmixer.
[07:01] <Psinetic> jeffhmb: yes, i think i can get it manually thought just by putting it on a thumb drive, so give me a sec
[07:01] <judibeefl> Vortex i have it in my Synapse Package Manager
[07:01] <DaveyAM> how i can tell to synaptic "hey iam not using proxy now..!"
[07:01] <[V]ortex`> judibeefl, how do i do that?
[07:01] <aah> 'lo all.  I've got Xvnc running on a machine w/ multiple monitors; the monitors give me a desktop of.. umm.. 3248x1200.  No matter what options I give vncserver at start up (e.g., -geometry 1024x768), the size is ignored and I get my :0 size.  Any thoughts?
[07:01] <jbuncher> Psinetic, if you can boot from a livecd and then chroot into the box that doesn't like to boot, maybe you could just install grub over grub2?
[07:01] <jeffhmb> Psinetic, not a bad idea. For moving a file over the network, it's pretty easy to enable file sharing on the windows box, and then connect to that share from the linux box.
[07:01] <erkerk3> for some reason it gnome explodes when i enable root and log in as it
[07:02] <erkerk3> how do i fix this
[07:02] <node357> Does anyone even care that I can't get this working?
[07:02] <lstarnes> [V]ortex`: try opening a terminal and running sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[07:02] <Ford> San234, extract the tar file using tar -xzvf file.tar.gz and navigate to it at the terminal.  look for a read me file which might have instructions on how to install
[07:02] <Yaya_> Is there a way to update from a 3rd party server?
[07:02] <lstarnes> erkerk3: you should never do a graphical login as root
[07:02] <Animagladius> Night
[07:02] <lockd> this is rather annoying... I have a program which needs a threaded LibXML, and ubuntu doesn't supply that
[07:02] <jbuncher> erkerk3, in all seriousness, don't log in as root.
[07:02] <IndyGunFreak> jeffhmb: unfortunately at this point, its VERY unlikely grub is his only problem, he's gonna have to reinstall most likely anyways
[07:02] <[V]ortex`> lstarnes, E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[07:02] <[V]ortex`> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[07:02] <judibeefl> Vortex System-->Administration--->Synaptic Package Manager
[07:02] <maxjizzy> aah, are you using nivida?
[07:03] <lstarnes> [V]ortex`: close all other package management applications
[07:03] <[V]ortex`> judibeefl, i searched but nothing comes up
[07:03] <aah> maxjizzy: ruh roh, yes.
[07:03] <trgbeck> ok I seen a flaw in Karmic it is in the mouse orientation to switch right to left handed doesnt work
[07:03] <erkerk3> :/
[07:03] <Yaya_> Anyone know if there is a way to update from a 3rd party server since the main update servers are so slow?
[07:03] <jeffhmb> IndyGunFreak, OK.
[07:03] <poyntz> lstarnes: ok. now i'm getting a weird message when I try to mount ubuntu. it tells me sda1 is not a block device :/
[07:03] <bazhang> trgbeck, please file a bug
[07:03] <judibeefl> nothing under Administration menu?
[07:03] <[V]ortex`> lstarnes, Package ubuntu-restricted-extras is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[07:03] <[V]ortex`> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[07:03] <[V]ortex`> is only available from another source
[07:03] <[V]ortex`> E: Package ubuntu-restricted-extras has no installation candidate
[07:03] <bazhang> !bugs | trgbeck
[07:03] <node357> Does ANYONE know how to enable line-in on SB X-Fi???????
[07:03] <FloodBot2> [V]ortex`: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:03] <lstarnes> poyntz: it does exist, right?
[07:03] <jbuncher> Yaya_, there should be a little app in the "software sources" program to find a close mirror.
[07:03] <[V]ortex`> judibeefl, nope nothing
[07:03] <maxjizzy> you must save the settings manually i think
[07:03] <[V]ortex`> oops sorry for flooding
[07:03] <lstarnes> [V]ortex`: did you enable the multiverse and restricted repos?
[07:03] <poyntz> lstarnes: well that's what i've been mounting it from in the past
[07:04] <maxjizzy> aah, i'll try to find the link for that
[07:04] <poyntz> lstarnes: unless the system oddly changed the name on the last boot
[07:04] <[V]ortex`> lstarnes, multiverse yes, is restricted repos the same?
[07:04] <Yaya_> ok coo, i'll give that a try
[07:04] <lstarnes> poyntz: that could happen
[07:04] <lstarnes> [V]ortex`: no
[07:04] <judibeefl> Are you on 9.04 or 9.10 Vortex?
[07:04] <aah> maxjizzy: thank you.  googling too, nothing obvious (what am I looking for?)
[07:04] <node357> Why is everybody ignoring me?
[07:04] <lstarnes> [V]ortex`: they're different repos, but more or less do the same thing
[07:04] <arussel> how can I list broken package on my machine ?
[07:04] <poyntz> lstarnes: I also tried sudo fdisk -l which doesn't seem to work on DL.. :/
[07:04] <[V]ortex`> lstarnes, i'll go look
[07:04] <lstarnes> node357: we might nopt have an ansert for your question
[07:05] <lstarnes> node357: er, we might not have an answer
[07:05] <node357> Thanks. That's better than not getting a response at all.. kinda lol
[07:05] <obiwan_> hey guys, do you think tux disguiste is too freaky/geek for halloween? hehe
[07:05] <lstarnes> node357: but I can assure you that people here have at lease seen it
[07:05] <judibeefl> lol  lstarnes
[07:05] <lstarnes> *least
[07:05] <maxjizzy> aah, now i remember
[07:05] <poyntz> lstarnes: just checked. the only sda<numbers> are sda1 and sda3
[07:05] <node357> wb wooly.. any luck?
[07:05] <enzyme> node357: You may have to switch to OSSv4 to access SB X-Fi line in.
[07:05] <judibeefl> WB Wooly
[07:05] <Bragex9> jeffhmb, Fire, It is not working in my system. Maybe I am doing something wrong. I am completely new to ubuntu and have no experience with this. I get several error messages after startx: Error api mismatch error: failed to initialize the nvidia kernel module. Please ensure that there is a supported nvidia gpu in this system and that the nvidia device files have been created properly
[07:06] <fire_> can I get flurry back in 9.10? :(
[07:06] <jeffhmb> You know what rocks? Network block device. I used to mount debian CDs from an old 200 MHz Pentium laptop that didn't have a CDROM drive, by mounting the CD on my server and then exporting that as a NBD.
[07:06] <wooly> lol i've not even got started yet
[07:06] <node357> ugh
[07:06] <wooly> yea
[07:06] <maxjizzy> aah, sudo nvidia-settings
[07:06] <maxjizzy> you have to do it with the sudo
[07:06] <wooly> ic ant really find any kind of useful documentation that would help me begin to know how to mount/decrypt
[07:06] <maxjizzy> to get it save
[07:06] <node357> enzyme, thanks. I might try that, or the driver from creative labs. I just hope it doesn't conflict with the alsa driver... was hoping Ubuntu would "just work" for once, but I guess not.
[07:06] <aah> maxjizzy: from within the vnc session?
[07:06] <p-f> anyone else getting a bunch of python errors when trying to do pretty much anything in gpodder on karmic?
[07:07] <node357> Windows and Linux making me hate computers.
[07:07] <p-f> the program is practically unusable
[07:07] <jeffhmb> Bragex9, did you try 'dpkg-reconfigure nvidia-185-kernel-source'
[07:07] <lstarnes> wooly: you still have your username/passphrase, right?
[07:07] <p-f> I'm surprised a gui shows up at all
[07:07] <jbuncher> node357, x-fi's have had a lot of problems with linux, iirc
[07:07] <erkerk3> didn't they open source its driverfs?
[07:07] <enzyme> node357: Don't blame the OS; blame Creative.
[07:07] <wooly> lstarnes i know the password I used and I kept the /var/lib/ecryptfs if that's what you mean
[07:07] <Bragex9> jeffhmb, no. did not try that
[07:07] <node357> jbuncher, i know.. but the alsa driver included in recent kernels worked fine for me on other distros...
[07:08] <node357> enzyme, i only have a problem with this card on Ubuntu Karmic.
[07:08] <Ford> node357, I always tell people that they should not hate or blame computers if the are unable to do something rather they should seek to know how to do it
[07:08] <node357> Ford, I'm too old to learn C/C++ and Python :(
[07:09] <jbuncher> node357, wonder if it's a pulse bug then, or if other distros weren't using the 31 kernel and something happened from pre31 to 31
[07:09] <judibeefl> node i am 49 and want to learn those
[07:09] <raik> http://www.worldlink.com.np/wireless/wizooome_surfwell_premium/index.php  this is the my connection lstarnes
[07:09] <lstarnes> wooly: I think you can specify the path to the key file in the mount options
[07:09] <node357> maybe jbuncher... and I'd like to help, but I'm not well and having a usable system is most important to me right now.
[07:09] <maxjizzy> aah i'm not really sure, it was long time i did work that shit out.
[07:10] <Ford> node357, great scientists like Albert Einstein discovered most stuff at old age! :)
[07:10] <node357> well judibeefl maybe too old is kind of narrow minded of me to say
[07:10] <KushedVapors> sooo wat does the deluge daemon do?
[07:10] <aah> maxjizzy: heh.  no prob.  thanks for the pointer, I'll play around.
[07:10] <node357> lol yeah Ford
[07:10] <maxjizzy> i'm totally stoned
[07:10] <[V]ortex`> do i have to restart after package installation?
[07:10] <wooly> lstarnes so should I just put /var/lib/ecryptfs back where it was then specify there when mounting?
[07:10] <metaphlex> will HTML5 replace flash games?
[07:10] <node357> I'm just not sure I want to spend a few years learning how to code hardware drivers before I can use my computer.
[07:10] <p-f> Ford, uhm, didn't Einstein fizzled out after his 30s?
[07:10] <jbuncher> node357, use what works then, nothing wrong with that
[07:10] <p-f> -d
[07:10] <lstarnes> wooly: try mount -t ecryptfs /dev/HD /mnt -o keyfile=PATH/TO/KEY
[07:10] <Boohbah> KushedVapors: seeds/downloads torrents in the background
[07:11] <Ford> p-f, that is old, according to me :)
[07:11] <jussi01> !language | maxjizzy
[07:11] <^Einstein> lies, I'm perfectly healthy! now, back on-topic. :)
[07:11] <judibeefl> node you can do anything your heart and mind will you to do
[07:11] <Bragex9> jeffhmb, I tried dpkg-reconfigure nvidia-185-kernel-source, and it answered with "need an action option"
[07:11] <node357> :)
[07:11] <Boohbah> jussi01: what about maxjizzy's language was not family friendly?
[07:11] <maxjizzy> srry
[07:11] <Ford> [V]ortex`, not a must, buy you can if it does not take effect
[07:11] <maxjizzy> i'm 420 friendly but the world is not.
[07:11] <digdug> I've been using the 9.10 beta the last couple weeks, and updated about 3 days ago; when I checked for updates today, there was no partial upgrade to install, just roughly 6 or 7 packages to update, am I running the release or am I still running the beta?
[07:11] <poyntz> lstarnes: i'll try to reboot. thanks in the meantime!
[07:11] <Sagaci> how do you edit grub in ubuntu 9.10??
[07:11] <node357> hah, Einstein.
[07:11] <voraistos> 9.10 finally fixes the intel driver, it looks absolutely fantastic! Todo next: gain back win3.1 functionality such as settings for the screensavers.
[07:11] <KushedVapors> Boohbah, so it consumes less cpu than puttin it in the taskbar?
[07:12] <lstarnes> wooly: replace the all-caps parts with the right values (HD = hard disk device, PATH/TO/KEY = full location of key file)
[07:12] <K4nkr0> .
[07:12] <jbuncher> digdug, you're running the final
[07:12] <node357> maxjizzy, not everyone smokes green :P
[07:12] <bazhang> digdug, the final
[07:12] <maxjizzy> i'm totally slow in my head
[07:12] <wooly> lstarnes gonna try brb
[07:12] <DaveyAM> guys i need help with synaptic... :(
[07:12] <[V]ortex`> what other packages should i install - other than restricted extras?
[07:12] <jeffhmb> Bragex9, did you run it under sudo?
[07:12] <maxjizzy> must have been something i eat
[07:12] <lstarnes> [V]ortex`: it depends on what you need
[07:12] <drygr> i have a question that isnt specifically about ubuntu, but it relates to the file system...
[07:12] <jbuncher> [V]ortex`, depends on what you want to do
[07:12] <enzyme> DaveyAM: Try sudo apt-get update to see if you get a problem still.
[07:12] <DaveyAM> how i can reconfigure the synaptic connection settings in console?
[07:13] <judibeefl> i had 13  Friday and 41 after the init install Thursday
[07:13] <broken_puppy> Anyone know of a good source for recovering files deleted from ext3?
[07:13] <Sagaci> !grub
[07:13] <maxjizzy> please, anyone with a mobile connection?
[07:13] <lstarnes> drygr: go ahead and ask
[07:13] <Sagaci> !grub2
[07:13] <[V]ortex`> lstarnes, jbuncher, for normal purposes? like surfing net, simple office apps etc?
[07:13] <Bragex9> jeffhmb, I will try again. I think I misstyped. Is it dpkg-reconfigure or dpkg reconfigure?
[07:13] <drygr> i have a USB drive that is on an ms-dos filesystem, how do i format it to a unix filesystem?
[07:13] <lstarnes> [V]ortex`: firefox and openoffice are installed by default, I think
[07:13] <Ford> broken_puppy, look for a tool known as ext3grep.  It works if you are patient enough
[07:14] <bazhang> drygr, gparted
[07:14] <DaveyAM> error
[07:14] <Madpilot> drygr, you probably don't want or need to. fat32 is understood everywhere
[07:14] <lstarnes> drygr: it depends on which unix fs you want. ext2/ext3 is very widely supported
[07:14] <jeffhmb> Bragex9, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure nvidia-185-kernel-source"
[07:14] <broken_puppy> Ford, Thanks!
[07:14] <DaveyAM> its try to connect to proxy
[07:14] <voraistos> oh and the sta broadcom drivers finally actually work too. thanks for your work guys.
[07:14] <Deathvalley122> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8193361<----this is the problem I am running into can anyone help me?
[07:14] <[V]ortex`> lstarnes, ok thanks
[07:14] <axionix> can someone helpme with mpd?
[07:14] <DaveyAM> but iam not using proxy now! :(
[07:14] <Bragex9> jeffhmb, ok
[07:14] <lstarnes> drygr: you can use mkfs.ext2 or mkfs.ext3
[07:14] <[V]ortex`> lstarnes, waht about a firewall ap?
[07:14] <drygr> whats the difference
[07:14] <Boohbah> KushedVapors: no, it enables you to connect to it with different interfaces, e.g. GUI or text-mode
[07:14] <lstarnes> [V]ortex`: iptables and ufw are installed by default
[07:14] <node357> DaveyAM, I'm gonna boot into my Wubi-fied Ubuntu and take a look at Synaptic, maybe I can help you figure it out.
[07:14] <Boohbah> KushedVapors: kind of like mpd
[07:14] <lstarnes> drygr: ext3 has journaling
[07:15] <slurp> hi
[07:15] <[V]ortex`> lstarnes, iptables and ufw are firewall progs?
[07:15] <DaveyAM> i try sudo apt-get update but its try to connect with proxy enabled...  :(
[07:15] <Appiah> my network (wlan and wired) does not work in Karmic, upgrade, fresh install and live CD is the same , its beacuse of the kernel, I tried a older kernel but here my sound dont work.
[07:15] <DaveyAM> ok
[07:15] <Appiah> What should I do?
[07:15] <DaveyAM> tks
[07:15] <slurp> can you help me with a wireless pci card?
[07:15] <lstarnes> [V]ortex`: yes.  I wouldn't have mentioned them if they weren't
[07:15] <jre2> anyone know how to fix home, end, and delete in gnome-terminal?
[07:15] <eagles0513875> !patience | Deathvalley122
[07:15] <lstarnes> [V]ortex`: they have graphical frontends such as firestarter and gufw
[07:15] <KushedVapors> Boohbah, never really used MPD, dont like to load and nload files constantly but thnx 4 the info
[07:16] <[V]ortex`> lstarnes, ok which would you reccommend? firestarter or gufw?
[07:16] <lstarnes> [V]ortex`: I don't use either
[07:16] <jbuncher> [V]ortex`, well, you've got firefox for browsing, openoffice for word processing / spreadsheets / presentations, gimp for raster editing.  I usually install thunderbird as my mail client, pidgin for instant messaging (I like it better than Empathy), inkscape for vector graphics, latex and kile for technical documents, gThumb as a quick image editor, and some other things as well.
[07:16] <Boohbah> KushedVapors: http://www.chnorton.com.au/2007/09/30/deluge-web-interface/
[07:16] <maxjizzy> vortex, firestarter is nice
[07:16] <Balsaq> if i am happily hooked up with 9.04, is it nuts to take 910? do irisk losing my ability to watch online vids...or risk losing sound?
[07:16] <[V]ortex`> lstarnes, ok you don't have firewall?
[07:16] <lstarnes> [V]ortex`: I do
[07:16] <[V]ortex`> jbuncher, ok thanks a lot! can you reccommenda  firewall?
[07:17] <jbuncher> [V]ortex`, sorry, not that well versed in the firewall stuff.
[07:17] <Deathvalley122> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8193361<----this is the problem I am running into can anyone help me?
[07:17] <lstarnes> [V]ortex`: almost everyone with a linux installation made in the past few years has iptables
[07:17] <lstarnes> [V]ortex`: ubuntu comes with ufw too
[07:17] <DaveyAM> node357 some idea?
[07:17] <Bragex9> jeffhmb, it says that /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: nvidia-185-kernel-source is not installed
[07:17] <voraistos> don't most people have hardware firewalls nowadays ?
[07:17] <judibeefl> Death post an abbreviated message you posted here
[07:18] <lstarnes> [V]ortex`: I usually manually configure things using iptables.  I'm behind a firewalled router so I don't need to do as much configuration of the software
[07:18] <eagles0513875> anyone able to help my friend Deathvalley122 with his issue as i have tried and have no idea how to fix it
[07:18] <zhaozhou> eagles0513875: what seems to be the problem, sir?
[07:18] <judibeefl> Eagle state the issue again please?
[07:18] <[V]ortex`> lstarnes, i see.. so since i'm behind a router, i can just leave it right?
[07:18] <Ford> eagles0513875, tell him to post it hear
[07:18] <lstarnes> [V]ortex`: probably
[07:19] <eagles0513875> Ford: zhaozhou: this is the problem he has http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8193361
[07:19] <node357> Waited a year for Ubuntu to support my sound card, now I have to wait another 6 months.
[07:19] <littlesteve> hi
[07:19] <[V]ortex`> lstarnes, ok thanks, you've been very helpful
[07:19] <judibeefl> Eagle copy/paste from there  paste in here
[07:19] <eagles0513875> judibeefl: its long will spam the channel
[07:19] <Ford> node357, patience pays, and if you are brave enough contribute, they normally appreciate one's input
[07:19] <judibeefl> lol sorry to hear that node
[07:20] <eagles0513875> would rather link his forum post cuz in a way its like using pastebin
[07:20] <jeffhmb> Bragex9, you have two choices, I think.
[07:20] <zhaozhou> eagles0513875: so this spam happends when?
[07:20] <node357> DaveyAM, I checked Synaptic. Go to settings -> Preferences, then Network, then select Direct Connection
[07:20] <Deathvalley122> yea
[07:20] <eagles0513875> !paste | zhaozhou:
[07:20] <eagles0513875> zhaozhou: when you paste more then 3 lines
[07:20] <zhaozhou> eagles0513875: eh?
[07:20] <[V]ortex`> does peercast/shoutcast run in linux? anyone know?
[07:20] <lonejack> hi, does someone know if on remix repository has been inserted eclipse pdt? I'm using 9.04 and was thinking to upgrade. Thank you
[07:21] <jeffhmb> Bragex9, 1) what does "dpkg -l |grep nvidia |grep kernel-source" say?
[07:21] <enzyme> node357: You can have support for the X-Fi card (I have the same card and using it now for recording) with OSSv4.1
[07:21] <DaveyAM> i did that..
[07:21] <eagles0513875> zhaozhou: or Ford are either of you guys able to help him :(
[07:21] <DaveyAM> and nothings happend
[07:21] <zhaozhou> eagles0513875: when does this happen?
[07:21] <jeffhmb> Bragex9, answer that and then I'll get back to telling you the two choices....
[07:21] <voraistos> DeathValley122: I think this is a kernel issue, I'm not too sure why, probably just a minor bug. What is really strange is that you can mount it and unmount it manually. NOTE: Back in the old days, we had mount and unmount a CD before to be able to eject it. Otherwise you'll have to use root in CLI to eject it.
[07:21] <DaveyAM> its try to connect to proxy
[07:22] <roffe_> in windows I had a scroll-function with the middle button on my mouse. How do I get it in  Ubuntu?
[07:22] <eagles0513875> zhaozhou: ask him he is in here his name is Deathvalley122
[07:22] <zhaozhou> so, Deathvalley122, when does this happen?
[07:22] <madman1> roffe_: you mean the scroll wheel, or an actual button
[07:22] <Deathvalley122> yes voraistos but I did a fresh install and I am still getting the problem
[07:22] <judibeefl> Eagle it sounds like a driver issue, check with SONY and Ubuntu for driver updates
[07:22] <DaveyAM> i dont know why because iam using direct dhcp for all my settings.. :(
[07:22] <eagles0513875> judibeefl: ping Deathvalley122 with the info as he is in here
[07:23] <DaveyAM> and now i cant download anything..
[07:23] <slurp> help please
[07:23] <node357> okay enzyme, I will try it.. I just wish I could rely on apt to keep things updated instead of having to compile every time the kernel is updated
[07:23] <Deathvalley122> zhaozhou: this happens when I put in a cd then eject it
[07:23] <zhaozhou> !ask | slurp
[07:23] <Ford> Deathvalley122, it may probably be a kernel issue, try to recompile it
[07:23] <slurp> ok
[07:23] <roffe_> madman1, I mean the scroll wheel, when you press it like a button it gave a scroll-function
[07:23] <zhaozhou> Deathvalley122: ahh.
[07:23] <node357> Maybe it's a bug DaveyAM, and if it is I'm really sorry.
[07:23] <voraistos> ok, just encountered a bug in ff
[07:23] <DaveyAM> what i can do?
[07:23] <eagles0513875> Deathvalley122: ask in ubuntu-kernel they might be fixing it for the next minor patch update
[07:23] <Deathvalley122> how can I recompile a kernel?
[07:23] <Bragex9> Jeffhmb, ooops.. where on the keyboard is the letter before "grep" located? I think I have to get a normal keyboard to get through this. I am onlu using this one: http://phonenext.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/logitech-dinovo-mini-keyboard.jpg
[07:23] <voraistos> oh no. I just updated xul, didnt restart, stupid me :P
[07:23] <zhaozhou> Deathvalley122: do you get the error if you do "eject" instead?
[07:24] <slurp> i have a problem with a wireless card PCI, i don't found the driver
[07:24] <DaveyAM> synaptic haven't one conf file?
[07:24] <slurp> the model is http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=WLG-1101
[07:24] <node357> DaveyAM, I'll look.
[07:24] <IndyGunFreak> slurp: whats the chipset on the card?
[07:24] <pvn> is there any one knows about supervisor client/server system that allows its users to monitor and control a number of processes on UNIX-like operating systems.
[07:24] <DaveyAM> i dont know :S
[07:24] <madman1> roffe_: ok i see what you mean now, have you found anything under system, prefrences, mouse?
[07:24] <Deathvalley122> it ejects it then it floods me with log errors zhaozhou
[07:24] <madman1> im on a laptop and have no scroll wheel
[07:24] <enzyme> node357: check out the ubuntu forums. There's a post on how to convert to OSSv4.1 and disable Pulseaudio and ALSA. OSSv4.1 is the repositories so you don't have to compile anything.
[07:24] <slurp> IndyGunFreak i don't know the chipset
[07:25] <pvn> supervisor client/server system that allows its users to monitor and control a number of processes on UNIX-like operating systems.
[07:25] <zhaozhou> Deathvalley122: Is the device still 'mount'ed when you eject it?
[07:25] <node357> Oh great enzyme, thanks!
[07:25] <socks4anon> is OSS 4.1 better?
[07:25] <bazhang> slurp, check it with lspci in the terminal
[07:25] <slurp> ok
[07:25] <[V]ortex`> how do i get rhythmbox to auto detect songs on other drives so that i don't have to keep loading them at startup?
[07:25] <slurp> !paste
[07:25] <jgornick> Can anyone make some recommendations for a good web cam with mic for Ubuntu/Skype?
[07:25] <Boohbah> socks4anon:
[07:25] <node357> sorry DaveyAM .. I don't see any setting for proxy in any of the apt configuration files :(
[07:26] <zedster> I get no audio, zip nada. If i do aplay I get no sound card found
[07:26] <Deathvalley122> no I have mount it zhaozhou
[07:26] <IndyGunFreak> bazhang: will a pccard show up in lspci?
[07:26] <Boohbah> socks4anon: http://insanecoding.blogspot.com/2009/06/state-of-sound-in-linux-not-so-sorry.html
[07:26] <jeffhmb> Bragex9, it's the "pipe" symbol -- a vertical bar.
[07:26] <Deathvalley122> to**
[07:26] <wooly> lstarnes: i'm not quite sure I know which file is the key file. I tried using unwrapped-passphrase and Private.sig, both of which were in the /var/lib/ecryptfs directory. Both return the error [-20] Not a directory
[07:26] <slurp> http://paste.ubuntu.com/305694/
[07:26] <roffe_> madman1, i didn't find anything of interest in there
[07:26] <zhaozhou> Deathvalley122: if you umount sr0 then eject it, do you get the errors?
[07:26] <bazhang> IndyGunFreak, a pci card? thought that is what he said
[07:26] <slurp> i paste the response
[07:26] <Boohbah> enzyme: also, have you read this? http://insanecoding.blogspot.com/2009/06/state-of-sound-in-linux-not-so-sorry.html
[07:26] <DaveyAM> soo where synaptic save configs ? :(
[07:26] <Deathvalley122> no
[07:26] <bazhang> slurp, looking now
[07:26] <jeffhmb> Bragex9, don't worry about it. Just try "dpkg -l nvidia-*" in the terminal and visually look for the kernel-source package.
[07:26] <enzyme> socks4anon: OSSv4.1 does have advantages. For me, the quality of sound is much better on my system. By default I can adjust the volumn on different programs without the need for something like pulseaudio.
[07:26] <lstarnes> wooly: what full command are you trying?
[07:26] <maxjizzy> jgornick, microsoft webcam maby? it works out for me..
[07:26] <slurp> bazhang do you see it?
[07:26] <Deathvalley122> only happens when it's mounted
[07:26] <voraistos> Deathvalley122 then I guess its a gnomeVFS bug
[07:27] <enzyme> Boohbah: Yes, I have. Interesting read.
[07:27] <slurp> thank bazhang
[07:27] <Bragex9> jeffhmb, ok
[07:27] <node357> Gah, searching for OSS or OpenSound in Synaptic didn't help too much.
[07:27] <zhaozhou> Deathvalley122: so, when you eject it via the button, is it still mounted?
[07:27] <voraistos> Deathvalley, tried updating gnom-vfs or something ?
[07:27] <DaveyAM> because iam not using proxy settings now.. T_T how i can reconfigure that in console? :(
[07:27] <Boohbah> enzyme: good to hear OSSv4 is in ubuntu repo's. i may have to try it out
[07:27] <madman1> roffe_: sorry if i was on my desktop machine i could help you better
[07:27] <socks4anon> plus you dont get that where certain games dont play audio and virtualbox sux and mic's dont work through flash?
[07:27] <lstarnes> DaveyAM: it might be in /etc/apt somewhere
[07:27] <socks4anon> some of the issues with pulseaudio drive me nuts
[07:27] <GJLenon> Evening
[07:27] <Deathvalley122> no it get unmounted but I have mounted it when I put in a cd
[07:27] <zhaozhou> evening. :)
[07:28] <DaveyAM> how i can configure the network settings for all system in console?
 thnx for the link
[07:28] <zhaozhou> Deathvalley122: i'm not following.
[07:28] <obiwan_> 2
[07:28] <Deathvalley122> okay
[07:28] <obiwan_> ups xd
[07:28] <voraistos> zhaozhou: ejecting via the button when still mounted should normally fail, unless something like gnome-vfs is running
[07:28] <wooly> lstarnes: well i couldnt figure out how to mount the usb key where I backed up /var/lib ecryptfs to so I rebooted in the livecd which also couldnt see the home directory then mount -t ecryptfs /dev/sda6 /mnt/home -o KEYFILE=/media/disk/ecryptfs/wrapped-passphrase
[07:28] <DaveyAM> because i configure it in graphic mode but not work for synaptic :S
[07:28] <Xcell> my new screensaver:  http://abstract.desktopnexus.com/get/64687
[07:28] <GJLenon> I'm having an issue, was hoping for advice. :)  I'm running 9.04 64 bit, and want to upgrade.  All my buddies run 32-bit and swear that it's superior.  Are they wrong?
[07:28] <Deathvalley122> it gets unmounted ejected but when I put in a disc it won't mount it so I have to mount it
[07:28] <zhaozhou> voraistos: no idea what gnome-vfs is, but yes, it should fail. I'm thinking it ejects anyway, and tries to read the cd when it isn't there
[07:28] <obiwan_> 1
[07:29] <Deathvalley122> when***
[07:29] <lstarnes> wooly: keyfile should be lowercase, I think
[07:29] <wooly> lstarnes then it prompts for passphrase, asks what kind of encryption (aes, etc), 16 bit, 32, etc then a bunch of others and I Just select the default and get -20 error
[07:29] <obiwan_> sry :(
[07:29] <node357> Um, purging pulseaudio removes ubuntu-desktop.
[07:29] <Deathvalley122> sorry bad grammar
[07:29] <wooly> lstarnes oh lol you told me KEYFILE ;)
[07:29] <wooly> brb
[07:29] <lstarnes> wooly: what other files do you have?
[07:29] <lonejack> I'm thinking to upgrade 9.04 to 9.10. I would like to see what packets are inserted on 9.01 repository. How can I see it by internet? Thank you
[07:29] <enzyme> node357: Don't remove that yet. Here, I'll try and find the article on how to convert .. don't do anything yet
[07:29] <IndyGunFreak> node357: thats just a metapackage, it doesn't actually uninstall the desktop
[07:29] <metaphlex> so i figure this is important for linux in general due to copyright issues: will games be able to be played using HTML5 without flash, and will flash games be able to be played using HTML5? Cause then linuc could do away with flash entirely
[07:30] <node357> okay enzyme, thanks
[07:30] <Deathvalley122> zhaozhou: I have reported a bug about it but haven't gotten a response back
[07:30] <node357> IndyGunFreak, I tried to purge pulseaudio in 9.04.. it really did remove gnome and everything.
[07:30] <voraistos> Deathvalley: cheap redneck solution, transform the dvd player into a powerful laser, and get your stuff exclusively from TPB and apt :P
[07:30] <lstarnes> metaphlex: flash games still need flasg
[07:30] <lstarnes> *flash
[07:30] <enzyme> node357: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenSound try that.. and i'll find some more
[07:30] <IndyGunFreak> node... hmm, i'd have to see that to believe it.. if you pay attention, "ubuntu-desktop" gets removed a lot during uninstalls.
[07:31] <wooly> lstarnes: still [-20] Not a directory
[07:31] <Deathvalley122> voraistos: I would if I had a app do that with lol
[07:31] <node357> enzyme, that's what I was just following... I think it's pretty dated. I would write new documentation if I could get this system working right.
[07:31] <lstarnes> wooly: you need a directory, I think
[07:31] <lstarnes> wooly: is /mnt/home a directory?
[07:31] <wooly> i created /mnt/home
[07:31] <zhaozhou> Deathvalley122: yes, but, is the cd still mounted after it's been ejected via the button?
[07:31] <jeffhmb> GJLenon, 64bit apps will use more memory, but they can also be faster. 32bit might be "easier" since you might have a hard time finding 64bit proprietary plugins for certain apps.
[07:31] <[V]ortex`> how do i get rhythmbox to auto detect songs on other drives so that i don't have to keep loading them at startup?
[07:31] <node357> IndyGunFreak, when enzyme finds the article, I'll purge pulseaudio and let you know if I still have a de lol
[07:31] <voraistos> Deathvalley122 did it stop working after upgrade, or is this a fresh install or what?
[07:31] <Deathvalley122> no zhaozhou
[07:32] <mayki> i got a question here, should be easy, but i have a mind cramp for some reason (probably because am stuck on a windows machine atm)
[07:32] <slurp> bazhang: nothing?
[07:32] <GJLenon> Lonejack:  Try http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/ and see if that is what you are looking for.
[07:32] <Deathvalley122> this is a fresh new install voraistos
[07:32] <lstarnes> wooly: actually, I think the keyfile is supposed to be a .pem
[07:32] <lonejack> GJLenon: okay, thx
[07:32] <Bragex9> jeffhmb... i am about to give up. My keyboard does not even have a *...Is there another way to find out?
[07:32] <Deathvalley122> and it did it on a upgrade too voraistos
[07:32] <bazhang> slurp, still checking
[07:32] <wooly> lstarnes i dont think I have a .pem file but i'll check
[07:33] <IndyGunFreak> node357: roger.. :)
[07:33] <jgornick> Curious, does anyone have this webcam?
[07:33] <jgornick> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826105219
[07:33] <slurp> ok thx
[07:33] <IndyGunFreak> bazhang: everything i saw for that card, was for hoary and breezy..
[07:33] <GJLenon> Jeffhmb:  Since I'm only running 2g RAM, are the two going to run at equal speed?  I read that 64-bit excels by allowing programs to use in excess of 3g RAM.
[07:33] <jeffhmb> Bragex9, Fn-P seems to be a * .
[07:33] <lstarnes> wooly: it might be something different
[07:33] <marcelcohrs> i cant access my mysql with my account error 1045 access denied for user marcel
[07:33] <IndyGunFreak> looks like a pretty old card
[07:33] <zedster> "lsof: WARNING: can't stat() fuse.gvfs-fuse-daemon" issue with my sound, anyone know this one?
[07:33] <metaphlex> lstarnes, i was having an argument with a friend that we won't be able to kill flash cause of online games
[07:33] <marcelcohrs> can anybody help?
[07:34] <maxjizzy> jgornick, i have a similair
[07:34] <deviant> hi nice see you still alive
[07:34] <Bragex9> jeffhmb... nope it's an \
[07:34] <jtmoney> i set the date/time/weather applet to display weather, but it's not updating... anyone else experiencing this?
[07:34] <jgornick> maxjizzy, And with Ubuntu and Skype, seems to work OK?
[07:34] <wooly> lstarnes there doesnt appear to be anything in there that would be a key besides unwrapped-passphrase and Private.sig
[07:34] <marcelcohrs> yo
[07:34] <Deathvalley122> so what should I do in this situation zhaozhou?
[07:34] <metaphlex> he's a mac fan and brought up something about how adobe created something where flash games can easily be converted to run on the iphone as an example of how we would get past that, but it doesn't seem likely to me
[07:34] <maxjizzy> jgornick, yes offc
[07:34] <marcelcohrs> i cant access my mysql with my account error 1045 access denied for user marcel, PLEASE
[07:34] <aaron116> Hello does anyone know how to config a ZTE AC8700 modem. Its a USB modem and I've tried wvdial before but it said that /dev/ttyUSB0 doesn't exist! Im working on Jaunty and want to jump on top of a Koala ;) but there is no internet for me!
[07:35] <jeffhmb> GJLenon, I don't have a simple answer for you. Your life is likely to be easier with 32bit if you only have 2G of RAM and have no plans to go to 4 or more?
[07:35] <GJLenon> metaphlex:  By nature, flash runs on your system, only using the Internet to send small packets back and forth, as opposed to playing a server based game.  Are you purposefully trying to crash Flash or what?
[07:35] <wooly> lstarnes not sure how I was supposed to know what files to backup...I guess I just hoped I would be able to put in the right username and pass and it'd work :\
[07:35] <node357> Okay, ubuntu-desktop is gone. Haha. brb
[07:35] <Deathvalley122> I never had this problem on Jaunty it's mostly a bug or a kernel issue either one ...
[07:35] <jeffhmb> Bragex9, you'
[07:35] <jeffhmb> Bragex9, you're still in a text window, right?
[07:35] <voraistos> Deathvalley122 I suggest your try force-reinstalling gnome-vfs and related files. Normally that lib (gnomvfsDrive) is what handles that stuff, and it seems to be broken, possibly absent
[07:35] <Bragex9> yes
[07:36] <node357> IndyGunFreak, you were right, and I was paranoid.
[07:36] <Bragex9> jeffhmb, yes still in text window
[07:36] <IndyGunFreak> node357: i wasn't gonna tell you so, but yeah, i knew i was right.. :)
[07:36] <node357> enzyme, I'm giong to follow the rest of that page, thanks much.
[07:36] <bazhang> slurp, what (if anything ) does sudo modprobe sk98lin   return
[07:36] <node357> :D
[07:36] <lstarnes> wooly: you could try http://www.kaijanmaki.net/blog/2009/10/26/recovering-files-from-ecryptfs-encrypted-home/
[07:36] <voraistos> DeathValley: I also suggest reinstalling metapackages such as "gnome" or ubuntu-desktop
[07:36] <maxjizzy> aaron116, got a usbstick?
[07:36] <metaphlex> GJLenon, no, i'm just ignorant to a degree about HTML 5. If everyone still needs a flash plugin to play all of the millions of online games, how could html5 "kill" flash?
[07:36] <Deathvalley122> how do I install that voraistos?
[07:36] <jeffhmb> Bragex9, ok, run aptitude.
[07:37] <daf_> Can anyone tell me if there is a later mini.iso of karmic the one I found is Oct 17th.
[07:37] <node357> Would that cause a problem on an upgrade though, having no ubuntu-desktop?
[07:37] <Threetimes> Hi, I can't connect myn phone, or a cardreader (USB). syslog says http://pastebin.com/d5d53d81b
[07:37] <jeffhmb> Bragex9, after it loads, hit / (slash key) and then type kernel-source in the search box.
[07:37] <wooly> lstarnes: looking, thanks
[07:37] <Bragex9> jeffhmb, ok brb
[07:37] <mayki> file comparison: http://paste.ubuntu.com/305698/
[07:38] <lstarnes> metaphlex: html 5 has support for many elements that html 4 lacked, but that alone likely isn't enough.  Improvements in javascript would be needed in conjunction with html 5 to replace things like flash
[07:38] <alexander_> Hey guys, I'm using Ubuntu 8.0.4 LTS and I'm trying to upgrade to kubuntu 9.01, I d/l and burnt the install DVD but it refuses to read it upon startup. I have my DVD drive set before my HDD in boot order, anyone know something I'm missing??
[07:38] <slurp> bazhang, FATAL: Module sk98lin not found.
[07:38] <voraistos> Deathvalley122: reinstalling gnome or ubuntu-desktop will a: require working internet and b: take a good amount of time.
[07:39] <tjboudreaux> hey guys, I'm having a small problem.  I can connect to my server via ssh remotely, but when I'm logged into the server itself, if i try to ssh into the server itself, i.e ssh localhost or ssh 67.207.129.99 (my public ip) I get a long time of waiting and then a connection refused message.
[07:39] <voraistos> and it might not even work
[07:39] <tjboudreaux> Any suggestions?
[07:39] <node357> Oops. there is no asound.conf. Now I have no sound support at all.
[07:39] <bazhang> alexander_, 9.10? check the md5 sum and do the disk integrity check after burning very slowly?
[07:39] <maxjizzy> alexander if you mount the cd in ubnutu 8.04 is it readable?
[07:39] <metaphlex> lstarnes, thanks. hopefully this was somewhat relevant to linux given that it is a copyright issue.
[07:39] <Deathvalley122> voraistos: I already did a fresh format on my pc for karmic it didn't work
[07:39] <bazhang> slurp, this is the Marvell Pci-e card?
[07:39] <voraistos> damn
[07:39] <enzyme> node357: http://www.harshj.com/2009/05/16/get-rid-of-all-pulseaudio-problems-use-oss/#more-603
[07:40] <GJLenon> metaphlex:  My understanding is that HTML 5 is being pushed by Microsoft to create an "industry standard" to control plug-ins.  An easy way to think about this is to compare it to DirectX.  Before DirectX there were many platforms, but DirectX was implimented and through added versatility and added benefits pushed all others out of the market until DirectX virtually controls all dynamic media.  Whether this is superior or not is up for debate.
[07:40] <lstarnes> metaphlex: I do not see how that is related to copyright
[07:40] <slurp> i don't know tha model is this http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=WLG-1101
[07:40] <node357> Thank you enzyme ..  I might have to start over since I went ahead after you asked me to wait, but I will try this.
[07:40] <chris062689> What are some ggood wireless ethernet cards (on newegg?) that provide good compatablility, and are cheap?
[07:40] <lstarnes> metaphlex: it might be related to the fact that html 5 and javascript are open standards with open implementations, while flash is largely closed
[07:40] <alexander_> maxjizzy: actually.. it isn't. K3B said sucessful burn with no errors :S thats odd
[07:40] <RPG_Master> How should I go about importing my entire .Evolution folder on a fresh install?
[07:40] <voraistos> GJLenon: come on, DirectX is the only good thing Microsoft ever produced
[07:41] <maxjizzy> alexander that's your problem then
[07:41] <metaphlex> lstarnes, flash is a proprietary format that we must install in linux to enable full use of the internet, while html5 may replace that with open standards
[07:41] <RPG_Master> When I start Evolution it goes into the whole start up dialog :/
[07:41] <alexander_> bazhang: yeah, its kubuntu 9.10-dvd-i386.iso
[07:41] <alexander_> bazhang: my bad, i always mix version numbers up :S fingers go faster than brain sometimes
[07:41] <Deathvalley122> voraistos: I don't think the developers know about this and that's 1 and 2 I don't know if anybody else is having this issue
[07:41] <maxjizzy> alexander probably burning to fast
[07:41] <Madpilot> RPG_Master, did you do an export from your old evolution install? not everything is in .evolution
[07:41] <slurp> bazhang, the model is this http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=WLG-1101
[07:41] <metaphlex> lstarnes, yeah, sorry didn't read that in time
[07:42] <Bragex9> jeffhmb, nothing happens after typing kernel-source in the search box...
[07:42] <bazhang> alexander_, then corrupt iso (md5 it) or bad burn
[07:42] <voraistos> Deathvalley122: apparently there already are bug reports on the issue
[07:42] <Threetimes> Hi, I can't connect myn phone, or a cardreader (USB). syslog says http://pastebin.com/d5d53d81b
[07:42] <RPG_Master> MadGirl: Actually, I backed up my entire Home folder :P
[07:42] <RPG_Master> .files and alll
[07:42] <bazhang> slurp, yep checking now
[07:42] <RPG_Master> *all
[07:42] <alexander_> bazhang: MD5 100% match
[07:42] <alexander_> I'll try again, slower. See what happends hopefully it will work :) thanks guys
[07:42] <jeffhmb> Bragex9, OK, then go for this: sudo apt-get install nvidia-185-kernel-source
[07:42] <Deathvalley122> hmm any fixes voraistos?
[07:42] <foo> 20
[07:43] <slurp> tnx bazhang
[07:43] <socks4anon> where is the writeup on replace the sound system in jaunty with oss 4.1
[07:43] <socks4anon> sounds like the way to go
[07:43] <voraistos> deathvalley122: just hang around the bugtracker, make sure this goes through, give any info required, until the thing gets "critical" and is corrected. then all you have to do is update, or apply offered fix
[07:43] <metaphlex> GJLenon, i thought microsoft was apprehensive about html5... also i don't want to add confusion to this chatroom, if this conversation is too off-topic is there a better channel someone may suggest?
[07:43] <maxjizzy> alexander_ try unetbootin if you want to save some cd's
[07:43] <GJLenon> voraistos:  I contest that any product which controls the entire market is bad.  Competition is what creates excellence.  Look at US airports.  Without healthy competition, the standards have gone down hill.  While I agree that DirectX has done some amazing things, at some point it will begin to stagnate variable media.  Look at all the advances in console gaming.  When was the last time you saw a TRULY innovative PC game?
[07:43] <node357> socks4anon, http://www.harshj.com/2009/05/16/get-rid-of-all-pulseaudio-problems-use-oss/#more-603
[07:43] <schmukkk2_> I'm getting stuck in initramfs
[07:44] <socks4anon> ty
[07:44] <schmukkk2_> mount /dev/loop //rootfs.squahfs
[07:44] <schmukkk2_> invalid argument
[07:44] <GJLenon> metaphlex:  Microsoft is the only company involved in the HTML 5 effort that is both a browser developer and an RIA tool developer.  They are apprehensive about it, but still supporting it.
[07:44] <[V]ortex`> how do i get rhythmbox to auto detect songs on other drives so that i don't have to keep loading them at startup?
[07:44] <schmukkk2_> *//filesystem.squashfs
[07:44] <Bragex9> jeffhmb....well now it worked with the search box. It says bcmwl-kernel-source
[07:44] <nurettin> hello i am using mythtv
[07:44] <GJLenon> Hello nurettin.
[07:44] <bazhang> slurp, couple of questions; have you had this card work before, and if so, how did you do so--the forums threads indicate a need for ndiswrapper, which means the last resort for getting that card going
[07:45] <socks4anon> allright gonna try this
[07:45] <nurettin> i have got two tv card
[07:45] <nurettin> one analog the other one digital
[07:45] <voraistos> GJLenon: PC games suck because their devs have no imagination. DirectX is superior to their only true competition, openGl-based, what-we-use-on-linux SDL and SDL sucks, even on linux. Things like UT run better on wine that they do with SDL linux binaries :O
[07:45] <jeffhmb> Bragex9, but no nvidia, right? If so, then try the install command I sent before
[07:46] <Bragex9> jeffhmb, ok. I will try that
[07:46] <maxjizzy> nurettin, cool, do you got alot of satelite channels to watch?
[07:46] <slurp> this is the first time that i use it. yes i read about ndiswrapper but i don't have the cd driver and don't find the drive on the net
[07:46] <node357> voraistos, doesn't SDL render with OpenGL?
[07:46] <voraistos> yes
[07:46] <slurp> bazhang, this is the first time that i use it. yes i read about ndiswrapper but i don't have the cd driver and don't find the drive on the net
[07:47] <Threetimes> Hi, I can't connect myn phone, or a cardreader (USB). syslog says http://pastebin.com/d5d53d81b
[07:47] <voraistos> node357: openGL is dealt with by mesagl on linux
[07:47] <bazhang> slurp, presumably this is an older computer without builtin wireless; its not well supported in linux (ie the need for ndiswrapper)
[07:47] <bus2525> hi bazhang
[07:48] <GJLenon> voraistos:  I'm thinking about the 80's and 90's, with games back then.  Sierra was a master at pushing out games of quality, but so were a myriad of other companies.  These days there are only three or four major PC game manufacturers.  There are dozens for console games.  You cannot tell me this has nothing to do with DirectX and it's insane licensing policies.
[07:48] <bazhang> !ot
[07:49] <node357> GJLenon, I think it might also have something to do with how easy it is to make and distribute unauthorized copies of PC games.
[07:49] <slurp> bazhang, oh yes i undestand, but without driver it not work
[07:49] <bus2525> thank my bazhang
[07:49] <GJLenon> node357:  True, it's a complex issue.
[07:50] <bazhang> please take the licensing chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:50] <RPG_Master> Can I make an Evolution archive manually? (like, without actually using Evolution?
[07:50] <voraistos> GJLenon: then they can use something else! But non-one is interested. DirectX offered higher  everything, and it's supported by a big company. Remember that the company that created OpenGL went bust. I'm not even sure who's in charge of it nowadays.
[07:50] <GJLenon> Apologies, I'll keep it on-topic.
[07:50] <jfbeghin> Hi,I try to upgrade my Ubuntu version 9.04 but I have an error with "ubuntu minimal" cannot be found. Can you help me ?
[07:51] <GJLenon> Anyone know if it is possible to upgrade from 9.04 64-bit to 9.10 32-bit?
[07:51] <voraistos> GJLenon: There was also another 3D standard deveopped by 3dfx. While I loved these cards, Many games didn't work with them
[07:51] <RPG_Master> So, any help with Evolution?
[07:51] <voraistos> GJLenon: with a bit of hacking that should be possible
[07:51] <GJLenon> Ugh.  My hacking skills are very limited.
[07:51] <nikitis> 3dfx was the smoothest
[07:51] <node357> Gah, I almost pasted a bunch of terminal commands into the chat window. btw, Empathy not supporting IRC kinda sucks.
[07:52] <nikitis> OpenGL is way better actually than directx
[07:52] <qq99> Empathy kinda sucks in general
[07:52] <voraistos> GJLenon: the thing is you have to make sure absolutely everything has to be replaced, so good luck. Even config files would need changing for it to work
[07:52] <enzyme> nikitis: mmmmmmm..... that's a harsh debate....
[07:52] <node357> I'm following this article on how to setup OSS, and I get permission denied trying to write to a conf file, even with sudo.
[07:53] <enzyme> node357: sudo su
[07:53] <GJLenon> Maybe I should just do a fresh install.  Could I just save my /home directory to keep all my personal data?
[07:53] <nikitis> Game developers just design in dx cause they don't think they can sell large volumes of games with open source
[07:53] <node357> crazy. so much for sudo, lol. Thanks enzyme
[07:53] <nikitis> They go were the money is
[07:53] <Flannel> node357: What command are you trying?
[07:53] <nikitis> But if you co
[07:53] <DigitalKiwi> nikitis: also dx is easier to use than the alternatives >.>
[07:54] <node357> If I ever get my act together, I want to push to make Ubuntu the best for games.
[07:54] <Hajuu> Hey guys i'm having some problems with my ubuntu virtual machines (vm's)
[07:54] <node357> Flannel, sudo cat /lib/linux-sound-base/noALSA.modprobe.conf >> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[07:54] <Hajuu> er sorry, let me type this out in entirety.
[07:54] <nikitis> Pare detailed screenshots of the two OpenGL can render better quality
[07:54] <node357> "permission denied"
[07:54] <enzyme> node357: You mean GNU/Linux :)
[07:54] <Flannel> node357: cat /lib/whatever | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[07:54] <nikitis> But not by much
[07:54] <RPG_Master> nvm :P
[07:54] <Flannel> node357: That's the proper command (you don't need to sudo the cat, you want to sudo the write)
[07:54] <jgb> what is the reason for not having a .jigdo for ubuntu-9.10-desktop-i386 ?
[07:55] <Flannel> jgb: jigdo doesn't make sense for desktop CDs
[07:55] <node357> Thanks Flannel. I was just copying and pasting from this article, but I see it's wrong now.
[07:55] <theadmin> jgb: Meh, we have torrents, it's enough
[07:55] <Hajuu> Hey guys i'm having some problems with my ubuntu virtual machines (vm's), mainly to do with networking. Sometimes it seems very difficult to get my VM's working with the internet, but they used to work perfectly. The vm's themselves havent been modified, although obviously over time the copy of ubuntu has been modified.
[07:55] <Hajuu> So from this I deduce it's an ubuntu problem.
[07:55] <voraistos> GJLenon: shouldn't be a problem. Just get rid of all the config files/dirs in the /home dir though
[07:55] <enzyme> Hajuu: Which Virtual Machine software are you using?
[07:55] <jgb> Flannel: can I install the same system with the alternate cd as with the desktop one?
[07:55] <Flannel> jgb: There's like a dozen small packages on the desktop CD, the bulk of it is the casper image
[07:55] <Hajuu> Basically it connects to the ethernet connection fine, but I cannot access the internet
[07:55] <Flannel> jgb: You can, yes.
[07:56] <Bragex9> Jeffhmb, I don't understand this. I only get to a black screen prompting for desktop login...
[07:56] <Hajuu> it even seems to resolve domains (it resolves googles ip but I cant ping it)
[07:56] <node357> enzyme, I do want new and old games to work on all of GNU/Linux, but since Ubuntu seems to be really popular, I'd probably focus on it. I feel like pulseaudio is a step in the wrong direction for game support.
[07:56] <slurp> bazhang, can you help me to find the driver? i don't find it
[07:56] <Flannel> theadmin: Please don't be so dismissive
[07:56] <jgb> Flannel: thanx.
[07:56] <theadmin> Sorry, Flannel.
[07:56] <Hajuu> enzyme: I'm using vmware um, 5 I think
[07:56] <node357> People like Arch Linux and Slackware don't push pulseaudio, so I find them better for games...
[07:56] <bazhang> slurp, not found one yet
[07:56] <Hajuu> Oh, vmware 6
[07:56] <Hajuu> workstation
[07:56] <jgb> theadmin: jigdo is better for locally hosted mirrors...
[07:56] <jeffhmb> Bragex9, I wish I could help you; I think you're pretty close at this point.
[07:57] <voraistos> nikitis: it's got nothing to do with opensource
[07:57] <jeffhmb> I gotta go to bed, though.
[07:57] <enzyme> Hajuu: try changing the networking in VMware to either Bridged or Hosted NIC.
[07:57] <GJLenon> voraistos:  Sorry to be ignorant, but how will I know if it is conflicting?
[07:57] <Bragex9> jeffhmb, thanks anyway! I will play around and see what happens
[07:57] <voraistos> nikitis DirectX is a complete platform, OpenGL is only the equivalent of Direct3D. then you've got DirectSound, etc...
[07:58] <slurp> ah, mmm, ok tnx bazhang, i buy a new wireless card eheh :)
[07:58] <node357> God, this whole article is full of mistakes.
[07:58] <Hajuu> OH! thanks for the hint enzyme, it wasnt a problem with that but with the interface it was automatically selecting to use for the internet
[07:58] <tend> I tried to upgrade a laptop Acer 5612 AWLMi from Ubuntu 8.04 to 9.10 and I took: General error mounting filesystems. root@tasos-laptop:~#what can i do to have my last system!
[07:58] <bazhang> voraistos, please take chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:58] <Hajuu> Manually set it now, lets give this a try!
[07:58] <voraistos> GJLenon: it probably will. I'm sure your config isn't irreplaceable, just keep your Music, movies and stuff, remove the rest
[07:58] <jgb> Flannel: how is the squashfs for desktop iso's generated?
[07:58] <Jesi> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8202661#post8202661 <-- input needed for potential tut video
[07:59] <GJLenon> voraistos:  Bleh, ok.
[07:59] <node357> I feel like I'm entering programs into my TI-99 from a book, configuring sound this way.
[07:59] <GJLenon> Ooh, maybe I'll upload all that stuff to the new ubuntu One!
[07:59] <voraistos> GJLenon: It's just that I have no idea how the installer will handle it.
[07:59] <Flannel> jgb: I'm not up on the details, but I imagine you can read all about it on this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[07:59] <jgb> thx
[07:59] <[V]ortex`> how do i get rhythmbox to auto detect songs on other drives so that i don't have to keep loading them at startup?
[07:59] <GJLenon> voraistos:  Ok.  Thanks for the advice, I appreciate it.
[08:00] <voraistos> GJLenon: also keep in mind the default for 9.10 is ext4. I don't know what it is you've got now
[08:00] <enzyme> node357: Yeah, it's a bit unorthadox on Ubuntu, but once you get it it works great.
[08:00] <GJLenon> voraistos:  I dunno.  I'll probably reformat the drive anyway.
[08:00] <telive> nick
[08:00] <voraistos> lol OK :P
[08:00] <telive> nick
[08:00] <blinkiz> Tried a couple of days ago to get a key from keyserver.ubuntu.com but it did not work. Same thing today. Is the keyserver down?
[08:01] <Hajuu> Ok now i'm really not seeing why i'm unable to say, ping google.
[08:01] <savior02> wow i got locked out of my box by going to the command line
[08:01] <node357> I sure hope so, enzyme .. I was really looking for a "just works" OS, but hopefully this is the only major tinkering I have to do. brb
[08:01] <GJLenon> Is there a way to save all the message rules and passwords for Evolution though?  Took me a while to get it to remove the thousand or so spam a day I get.
[08:01] <Madpilot> blinkiz, a lot of the ubuntu servers are slow - release is hammering them, so keyserver might be affected
[08:01] <Hajuu> I have a valid network connection on my ubuntu vm, which I can ping from my windows host through the router (non-directly), but the ubuntu machine cant ping google, yet it resolves its ip.
[08:01] <telive> hello
[08:02] <blinkiz> Madpilot, ok
[08:02] <enzyme> Hajuu, by chance, are you using Windows 7?
[08:02] <voraistos> Madpilot: This is a bug. Ubuntu servers should have no problems serving Ubuntu :D
[08:02] <hkuieagle> hello,telive
[08:02] <Hajuu> No, XP
[08:02] <enzyme> Do you have your firewall enabled?
[08:02] <Hajuu> Although I will be upgrading to windows 7 and vmware 6.5 soon
[08:02] <telive> hi hk
[08:02] <Hajuu> Nah and like I say, it was all working
[08:03] <Madpilot> voraistos, heh. It gets a bit busy around release time, as you might have noticed :)
[08:03] <SingAlong_> whats the command to start the terminal? I want to add the shortcut to the terminal to the panel.
[08:03] <enzyme> Hajuu, have you tried VirtualBox?
[08:03] <Hajuu> sometimes id have to disable and reenable the connection in my vm in order to reconnect it, mainly if I restored from a suspend
[08:03] <Hajuu> I'm a software developer
[08:03] <Hajuu> so VMWare offers some very nice features
[08:03] <karmic_police> has anyone uninstalled evolution successfully without it breaking gnome?
[08:04] <voraistos> Madpilot: actually I was installing a few packages earlier on, I had full speed (Ok, from a mirror but still....)
[08:04] <almoxarife> Hajuu: the ubuntu is the vm on windows?
[08:04] <Hajuu> Yeah, XP
[08:04] <node357> NOTE! You are using trial version of Open Sound System
[08:04] <theadmin> man, it got so noisy here after Karmic was released -_-
[08:04] <G_A_C> SingAlong_: gnome-terminal
[08:04] <karmic_police> i uninstalled evolution and when i rebooted all i had was a terminal window
[08:04] <Madpilot> voraistos, nice. I've gotten in the habit of torrenting the Alternate CD and upgrading from that, almost always faster than doing a full upgrade from the servers on release day
[08:04] <almoxarife> Hajuu: xp is firewalled?
[08:04] <Hajuu> you probably removed parts of gnome MadGirl
[08:05] <Hajuu> er Madpilot
[08:05] <SingAlong_> G_A_C: I'm running xfce. the xfce terminal seems a bit pretty.
[08:05] <enzyme> node357: uhh, that doesn't sound right. OSSv4 is open source.
[08:05] <Hajuu> almoxarife: Nah it was working before, but now its not
[08:05] <Madpilot> Hajuu, huh? was that for karmic_police?
[08:05] <Hajuu> Thus why I dont understand
[08:05] <GJLenon> Anyone else notice increased download speeds in 9.04?  I run a very nice internet connection and I can "drain" it with ubuntu.  D/L speeds of 300k+  High enough that no one else on the network can do anything on the net.
[08:05] <karmic_police> i used synaptics and checked anything associated with evolution
[08:05] <Hajuu> lol sorry
[08:05] <Hajuu> it was
[08:05] <node357> karmic_police, looks like you can uninstall evolution without problem.
[08:05] <Hajuu> Meh it would be associated with gnome
[08:05] <Hajuu> not with evolution
[08:06] <node357> enzyme.. I duno.. I installed the .deb from the OSS web site mentioned in the article you showed me.
[08:06] <enzyme> ehhhh, I should have looked it over.. brb.. I'll check it out
[08:06] <voraistos> Madpilot: I never ever upgrade. I usually temper too much with the system for it to work smoothly. I just keep the home partition :P
[08:06] <G_A_C> SingAlong_: my mistake, I thought you were running Ubuntu with GNOME, I don't know what the xfce terminal is called :)
[08:06] <node357> Ugh. Now I don't have a sound mixer.
[08:06] <node357> Okay enzyme, thanks.
[08:06] <SingAlong_> G_A_C: thanks anyway. got it. xfce4-terminal
[08:06] <enzyme> node, yeah you do, it's ossxmix
[08:06] <enzyme> if it's installed with that deb
[08:07] <enzyme> ...
[08:07] <node357> enzyme, does it run only in text mode? that's what i have riight now.
[08:07] <karmic_police> i searched in synaptics and uninstalled evolution associated packages.. unless they were also associated with gnome also
[08:07] <Madpilot> voraistos, I've fallen into the habit of upgrading for two or three releases, then doing a clean install (separate /home partition FTW)
[08:07] <enzyme> node, no, ossxmix is gui, ossmix is cli
[08:07] <almoxarife> has the sound applet issue been resolved when alsa is the default sound system?
[08:07] <karmic_police> i'm a linux noob so bear with me.. had it exactly a month now
[08:07] <Hajuu> hah now its back working again random as ever
[08:07] <node357> Ah got it. Thanks enzyme.
[08:07] <Hajuu> I think it just takes some time for some reason
[08:07] <Hajuu> :/
[08:08] <raven_> hi.... i just did the upgrade to karmic and now have huge problems with hardware and software
[08:08] <node357> What the heck!! Still no line-in at all.
[08:09] <karmic_police> i love karmic... i had to blacklist my usb wireless adapter to get wireless working .. otherwise no problems
[08:09] <raven_> node357, sound problems? it is the same with my pc....
[08:09] <node357> That sucks raven_ .. this is so frustrating.
[08:09] <voraistos> Madpilot: I'm wondering if I won't stick with the next LTS. I've got an intel card and my system as it was 2 or 3 days ago was unbearable. It's actually harder to use Ubuntu with custom kernel/X/OtherStuff than to run something like Gentoo.
[08:09] <tim> Totem gives me the following error message when i try to play a video from youtube "GStreamer encountered a general supporting library error"
[08:09] <karmic_police> i'll never go back to windows
[08:09] <raven_> node357, is the error with your notebook?
[08:10] <node357> Looks like I HAVE to go back to Windows.
[08:10] <karmic_police> why?
[08:10] <node357> No raven_, I am using a desktop computer with a SB X-Fi sound card.
[08:10] <fahadsadah> !sound | node357
[08:10] <Madpilot> voraistos, ya, I know intel graphics cards hated 9.04
[08:10] <fahadsadah> Did you try all of those?
[08:10] <raven_> fahadsadah, in my case there is NO device i could select
[08:11] <karmic_police> youtube problem... you running 64bit?
[08:11] <node357> Yes fahadsadah, I tried changing the device in the gnome mixer, and changing, um-muting levels in alsamixer.
[08:11] <voraistos> Madpilot: The fact that it made it to release (in ubuntu but in Debian too :O )was unbelievable
[08:11] <jfbeghin> DDo you know if the server be.archive.ubuntu.com have a problem ?
[08:11] <karmic_police> tim are you running 32 or 64?
[08:11] <maxjay> yeah, finally i got it working!
[08:11] <fahadsadah> node357: Try sudo dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/dsp
[08:11] <GJLenon> ubuntu One in conflict for anyone else?
[08:12] <rafiq> wen i uninstalled older version of firefox from multiple versions installed, firefox shows a black rectangle instead of its icon..anyone knows hw to fix it.?
[08:12] <node357> Argh!! that hurt, fahadsadah
[08:12] <fahadsadah> Sorry...
[08:12] <fahadsadah> Ctrl+C to stop
[08:12] <mjbrooks> bwahahaha
[08:12] <voraistos> GJLenon: One servers have some sort of bug related to the previous client or something, that's why we can't use it
[08:12] <node357> lol, that's okay. Sound output is fine, line-in does not work .. works on Windows, though.
[08:12] <karmic_police> the sound is much better in 9.10 than 9.04
[08:12] <raven_> WHY an upgrade everytime sucks with ubuntu like that - WHY
[08:12] <fahadsadah> We have OSS, don't have ALSA.
[08:13] <GJLenon> voraistos:  Ahh, ok.   Thanks again for the help. :)
[08:13] <jfbeghin> when I try to ping it, i receive no response
[08:13] <fahadsadah> node357: Wait. You are on 9.10, aren't you?
[08:13] <node357> So far neither OSS or ALSA will allow the line-in to work.
[08:13] <GJLenon> Night guys, I'm going to bed.  2 hours until 9.10 is finished downloading.  I'm super psyched!
[08:13] <node357> Yes fahadsadah
[08:13] <karmic_police> i wouldn;t upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10 ext3 and ext4 won't get along
[08:13] <karmic_police> fresh install is best
[08:13]  * Dr_Willis wonders how 2 filesystems 'conflict' :)
[08:14] <SwedeMike> so... karmic on lenovo x200 laptop, by default I get audio/video desync of .5 second or so both with pulseaudio and alsa, known problem? google doesn't seem to find much previously written
[08:14] <node357> I heard fresh install defaults to EXT4, and that EXT4 can corrupt large files... not very good for a new user.
[08:14] <voraistos> Is it not possible to mount ext3 as ext4 or something? Like ext2/ext3 ?
[08:14] <sugoruyo> fresh installs are always the best
[08:14] <IndyGunFreak> karmic_police: i wondered how that would go for people upgrading.. i clean installed myself
[08:14] <rgnr> hey all
[08:14] <rgnr> ppl
[08:14] <rgnr> who did the upgrade?
[08:14] <DigitalKiwi> ext3 can be converted to ext4 easily it's just the extra features don't go on existing files
[08:14] <node357> I was all hyped for new Ubuntu, now I'm very depressed.
[08:14] <DigitalKiwi> that and I still don't trust ext4
[08:14] <rafiq> wen i uninstalled older version of firefox from multiple versions installed, firefox shows a black rectangle instead of its icon..anyone know hw to fix it.?
[08:15] <karmic_police> i read forums before upgrading.. i have all my data on separate hdd so i do frequent fresh installs
[08:15] <voraistos> node357: large files are over a TB. We don't see those very often
[08:15] <raven_> rgnr, i did and nothing works any more
[08:15] <rgnr> i have ext4 and i'm not satisfied
[08:15] <IndyGunFreak> DigitalKiwi: i didn't either, but honestly, its been fine for me for about a month...
[08:15] <IndyGunFreak> karmic_police: sounds like me and you have similar setups.
[08:15] <karmic_police> i hear large files can be lost in ext4.. hope they fix that pronto.. lol
[08:15] <mehdi2> anybody knows about font changes in Karmic ? I prefer Jaunty fonts...
[08:15]  * DigitalKiwi sighs at the ex windows users who think they need to reinstall linux all the time :(
[08:15] <rgnr> raven_: they say to enable community support
[08:16] <karmic_police> i have 500gb of music i would rather not lose :P
[08:16] <node357> DigitalKiwi, I can't even install once and get a working system, much less over and over.
[08:16] <rafiq> wen i uninstalled older version of firefox from multiple versions installed, firefox shows a black rectangle instead of its icon..anyone know hw to fix it.?
[08:16] <IndyGunFreak> DigitalKiwi: i dont do frequent reinstalls, i just don't upgrade my OS's, i always clean install, so its easier to keep my data on another partition, and when a new release comes out, i just install it over th eold one
[08:16] <zeltak1> hi guys..i remember a while ago i saw an applet/prog that changed the taskbar into "icons" ala win7..cant find it now..anyone knows anything 'bout that?
[08:16] <voraistos> karmic_police: It's not lost, it's all over bittorrent :D
[08:16] <karmic_police> well, i used to do frequent installs.. when i had windoze. lol
[08:16] <node357> Anyone know why the line-in won't work on my SB X-Fi sound card?
[08:16]  * DigitalKiwi just uses rolling release OSes and then doesn't ever have to reinstall muwahaha
[08:17] <IndyGunFreak> !awn | zeltak1
[08:17] <MrAlexandro> anyone who know a channel where i can get help with portable apps?
[08:17] <ArtVandalae> Is there any way I can tell which programs I've installed *after* the base Ubuntu desktop install?
[08:17] <karmic_police> i know.. i just have everything categorized.. took a lifetime to collect..lol
[08:17] <joaopinto> zeltak1, you mean a dock system ? ala Mac, not Windows :)
[08:17] <rafiq> wen i uninstalled older version of firefox from multiple versions installed, firefox shows a black rectangle instead of its icon..anyone know hw to fix it.?
[08:17] <MaxJizzy> how do i check if i have 3D support?
[08:17] <tim> karmic_police, 64 bit karmic
[08:17] <DarK``> where do I set the time the grub bootloader is shown? It used to be in /boot/grub/menu.lst but that file doesnt exist anymore in 9.10 ?
[08:17] <joaopinto> ArtVandalae, you could list all the installed apps with dpkg -l
[08:18] <IndyGunFreak> MaxJizzy: sys/pref/appearance/visual effects, and set it to extra... if it goes w/o error, you should be ok
[08:18] <lstarnes> DarK``: it might be grub.conf
[08:18] <almoxarife> rafiq: delete it if its on the tool bar
[08:18] <joaopinto> those which are not include on ubuntu-minimal and ubuntu-desktop are post install
[08:18] <node357> God, I'm gonna break this computer. Nothing works!
[08:18] <ionut> MaxJizzy:  you have nvidia or ati
[08:18] <IndyGunFreak> node357: what now?
[08:18] <joaopinto> !grub2 | DarK``
[08:18] <DarK``> lstarnes: there is a file /boot/grub/grub.cfg but it doesnt set a time-variable as far as Ican tell...
[08:18]  * IndyGunFreak hates grub2
[08:18] <zeltak1> nah IndyGunFreak  and joaopinto i mean a taskbar with icons instead of long boxes with app names..like win7 and tint2 (in crucnhbang)
[08:18] <DigitalKiwi> wah ubuntu actually switched to that beta stuff, haha
[08:19] <voraistos> He broke his computer out of frustration with windows, and now complains it doesn't work anymore, even with *nixes :D
[08:19] <node357> The sound card, the line input doesn't work with ALAS or OSS.. it works in Windows, so I know it's not broken.
[08:19] <karmic_police> tim. try this for your youtube prob.   sudo apt-get remove flashplugin-* --purge             then         sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[08:19] <IndyGunFreak> zeltak1: only thing i'm aware of, even remotely like that, is avant window manager.
[08:19] <DarK``> ubottu: okay, thanks :)
[08:19] <joaopinto> zeltak1, i have no idea what are you talking about :)
[08:19] <karmic_police> that worked for me
[08:19] <sugoruyo> hey I've a quick question: do ATI cards work with 3D and video on karmic?
[08:19] <dopple> hey could someone tell me how to create a md5 hash from a specified file?
[08:19] <node357> voraistos, I really want to get away from Windows, but every time I try GNU/Linux something doesn't work, and I can never find a solution to the problem.
[08:19] <tim> karmic_police, i installed the 64 bit alpha from adobe
[08:19] <jimbeam12> hey all
[08:19] <Dr_Willis> !md5
[08:19] <joaopinto> sugoruyo, as long as they are supported by ATI yes, older card modesl, do not
[08:19] <Snicksie> node357, does your sound card work with pulse-audio?
[08:19] <DigitalKiwi> sugoruyo: that depends, on what card and how you define works
[08:20] <MaxJizzy> IndyGunFreak, it say, searching for temporary drivers, and then desktop effects could not be enabled.
[08:20] <node357> Snicksie, yes, except for line-in.
[08:20] <dopple> thanks Dr_Willis
[08:20] <jimbeam12> could anyone help me with this message........"Could not update ICEauthority file "
[08:20] <IndyGunFreak> MaxJizzy: so you don't have 3D
[08:20] <karmic_police> does the alpha work? i have read that it is problematic
[08:20] <DigitalKiwi> there is a factoid on a bot I love "!ati" returns "Get nvidiai!"
[08:20] <zeltak1> IndyGunFreak: joaopinto: look at this screen: http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/8528/screenshot020.png
[08:20] <IndyGunFreak> MaxJizzy: what graphics device do you have
[08:20] <DigitalKiwi> s/nvidiai/nvidia/
[08:20] <MaxJizzy> IndyGunFreak, i did have 3D in 8.04
[08:20] <voraistos> node357: I can't say, My sound cards always worked fine :) The only problem I ever had was with broadcom wireless, and it works pretty well now.
[08:20] <node357> :(
[08:20] <IndyGunFreak> MaxJizzy: well, what version are you using now?
[08:21] <Snicksie> node357, perhaps you can try to install pavucontrol and perhaps that will work to get it working?
[08:21] <joaopinto> zeltak1, like we said, that's a dock
[08:21] <zeltak1> its a taskbar with "icons" instead of the normal tasks as long boxes
[08:21] <Psinetic> IndyGunFreak:
[08:21] <MaxJizzy> IndyGunFreak,  intel 830 M i think
[08:21] <IndyGunFreak> Psinetic: ?
[08:21] <Psinetic> didn't work..
[08:21] <joaopinto> zeltak1, and it's a Mac OS X concept, not windows one
[08:21] <MaxJizzy> IndyGunFreak, 9.10
[08:21] <Psinetic> >_>
[08:21] <zeltak1> nah its not LOL..look at the tine2 project http://code.google.com/p/tint2/
[08:21] <dupondje> can somebody try to print from an flashplayer application (like a flash page with print button on a site) ? Does it see any printers ?
[08:21] <zeltak1> i just wondered if gnome panel had that
[08:21] <joaopinto> zelfje, search for "dock" on the softwate center
[08:21] <rgnr> anyways ppl, is 9.10 worth to upgrade to?
[08:21] <IndyGunFreak> Psinetic: i think your hard drive is hard bread
[08:21] <joaopinto> zelfje, yes it is
[08:21] <voraistos> node357: and that's with years and years of use, with many different machines
[08:21] <Searcher6> nah
[08:22] <joaopinto> ops, zeltak1
[08:22] <karmic_police> don't upgrade unless u absolutely have to.. do a fresh install
[08:22] <ipatel> hey guys...
[08:22] <karmic_police> and yes its miles ahead of 9.04
[08:22] <sugoruyo> I like gnome do best for a dock and launcher
[08:22] <ipatel> anyone know how i can boot into single user mode using Karmic#
[08:22] <ipatel> GRUB2
[08:22] <Psinetic> IndyGunFreak: i'm going to see if maybe wiping the partition with a windows cd will do the trick. i honestly don't understand how upgrading an operating system can totally screw a harddrive. i mean really?
[08:23] <IndyGunFreak> Psinetic: well, it really sounds like a hardware problem... see if you can get the drive to format..
[08:23] <SwedeMike> so far I've seen two problems with 9.10, it wont handle crypted volumes properly at startup (doesnt handle the waiting for passphrase correctly), and 0.5s a/v desync in mplayer/vlc
[08:23] <node357> X is forgetting the text I copy >:(
[08:23] <G_A_C> does anyone here with Intel Mobile graphics (the GM45) have really poor Flash performance? I had it in Jaunty but assumed that was down to the known Intel problems in Jaunty, but it's still bad in Karmic :( I'm using 64bit Flash from the Flash PPA on Launchpad, but I've also tried gnash and swfdec-mozilla which crashed most of the time and still had poor performance
[08:23] <Psinetic> yeah....this is just totally screwed up...omg
[08:23] <karmic_police> ext3 upgraded to ext4 may be trouble
[08:23] <voraistos> joaopinto: it's not a mac concept, it's a CDE (Unix) concept.
[08:23] <IndyGunFreak> Psinetic: lol, i bet you never quit an upgrade in the middle ever again...lol
[08:24] <SwedeMike> G_A_C: I have GM45, what should I try?
[08:24] <raven_> what's this please "GSynaptics couldn't initialize.
[08:24] <raven_> You have to set 'SHMConfig' 'true' in xorg.conf or XF86Config to use GSynaptics" there is NO ENTRY like that
[08:24] <joaopinto> voraistos, whatever :P
[08:24] <node357> pavucontrol says "connection refused"
[08:24] <Lartza_> HI, Would tehre be a way to easily customize the ubuntu cd while I am on ARch Linux?
[08:24] <IndyGunFreak> Psinetic: but that might explain why the upgrade froze, if the hard drive took a dump
[08:24] <Psinetic> lol i bet if it does this again i'm gonna buy a mac....for serious, this is starting to piss me off
[08:24] <Dr_Willis> raven_:  thats the old way.. tne new way was using FDI files.. but im not sure how to do it in 9.10
[08:24] <G_A_C> SwedeMike: just playing things like Youtube videos, I get single numbers of frames per second, and low ones at that, it renders maybe 3 frames per second
[08:24] <Psinetic> yeah...that would explain it
[08:24] <Lartza_> I know you can use Reconstructor while on ubuntu, but on another distro?
[08:24] <karmic_police> my a/v are fine in vlc
[08:25]  * Psinetic throws something inexpensive against the wall....>_>
[08:25] <SwedeMike> G_A_C: I dont have that problem with my lenovo x200 anyway, but I'm running 32bit
[08:25] <karmic_police> sudo apt-get install libdvdread4                                         sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh
[08:25] <joaopinto> Lartza_, this is for ubuntu support, not other distro, and I don't think recunstrcutor works with karmic
[08:25] <node357> lol, I duno where to direct my anger. Ubuntu site makes it look like the perfect alternative to Windows, til you use it.
[08:25] <Lartza_> Ohh :S
[08:25] <ionut> can i install sketchup (of google) in ubuntu 9.10  ?
[08:25] <dabukalam> how can i find out what domain/realm my computer is in from a terminal. I can't connect to the samba share without it, and workgroup ain't working
[08:26] <Psinetic> if windows fixes my hard drive then maybe i won't hate it as much....
[08:26] <IndyGunFreak> node357: its a very good alternative, but you have to learn how to use it, and you have to understand, not all hardware manufacturers co-operate by making linux drivers, so Linux developers have to figure otu a way to make things work
[08:26] <IndyGunFreak> this is a developer problem, nto a linux issue
[08:26] <G_A_C> SwedeMike: thanks, I think that might be my problem; I run AMD64 as I was hoping to upgrade the RAM in my laptop to 4 gigs down the line, but 64bit Flash is pretty bad. Maybe I should look into either reinstalling it as 32bit, or IIRC there's a way of running a 32bit firefox on a 64bit system, which would let me run the 32 bit stable Flash plugin rather than the 64bit alpha
[08:26] <IndyGunFreak> *hardware developer, that is
[08:26] <lao5> s
[08:26] <MaxJizzy> Psinetic, try format with windows, install windows, download the iso fresh from a torrent, then download unetbootin and browse the iso. set it to mount from hardrive and not usb. then you are ready for a fast new install of ubuntu. do parition on your disk with windows installation. like 4 gb's of windows partition and rest to linux, leave the rest unformated.
[08:26] <Psinetic> has anyone else experienced this problem? i just want to make sure IndyGunFreak that this wasn't actually caused by the installer for karmic.
[08:27] <ionut> can i install sketchup (of google) in ubuntu 9.10  ?
[08:27] <ionut> can i install sketchup (of google) in ubuntu 9.10  ?
[08:27] <node357> The ALSA drivers in Slackware work, but I don't want to spend my entire life compiling source code for everrything.. I don't understand why a 2-day old release of Ubuntu could not provide the same support for this sound card...
[08:27] <SwedeMike> ionut: don't do that.
[08:27] <ionut> sorry , but i am in a hurry
[08:27] <MaxJizzy> Psinetic, and then leave the iso for a safety, if anything fails you just load the windows bootloader and run live cd
[08:27] <Psinetic> MaxJizzy: you miss the point...i cna't boot any of my partitions with the live cd. i won't install windows, there's nothing wrong with the live cd at all. somehow the hard drive got jacked in the middle of my upgrade
[08:27] <IndyGunFreak> Psinetic: its very unlikely.. its been a logn time since software caused hardware failures.. if it did.. then the drive was probably close to toast anyways
[08:27] <SwedeMike> ionut: you're being rude.
[08:27] <Dr_Willis> ionut:  you did check google for an answer if you are in a real hurry?
[08:28] <karmic_police> 9.10 in netbook reads false positive for faulty hdd
[08:28] <MaxJizzy> Psinetic, i have had that prob
[08:28] <Dr_Willis> ionut:  i see mentiuon of it working in wine
[08:28] <ionut> i so that
[08:28] <ionut> but without wine, i can't install it ?
[08:28] <Pricey> ionut: sketchup lists Linux as an "Unsupported Environment". That took 10 seconds on a google search. As Dr_Willis mentioned however, there's success with wine.
[08:28] <Psinetic> MaxJizzy: and this is how you had to fix it? was by wiping the partition with windows cd?
[08:28] <MaxJizzy> windows format do the trick, it's always nice to have a windows beside the ubuntu, it's like jing and jang. good and bad. god and satan.. so on.
[08:28] <raven_> Dr_Willis, what is necessary to restart after updating the preferences.fdi?
[08:28] <Dr_Willis> ionut:  its a windows app.... so yes wine would be needed
[08:28] <node357> And the disk utility says my brand new SATA drive has " a few bad sectors"
[08:29] <MaxJizzy> Psinetic, yepp
[08:29] <Dr_Willis> raven_:  i would imagine so.. or at least restart X
[08:29] <Pricey> Dr_Willis: It works on osx too.
[08:29] <ionut> ok,thx to all
[08:29] <loris> hello
[08:29] <Psinetic> MaxJizzy: what caused the problem to begin with, you know?
[08:29] <raven_> Dr_Willis, do you also know what i could do to enable the internal soundcard?
[08:29] <MaxJizzy> Psinetic, ubuntu installation
[08:29] <Dr_Willis> Pricey:  like i am ever going to care about OS-X :)
[08:29] <MaxJizzy> from a bad source.
[08:29] <Dr_Willis> raven_:  No idea.
[08:29] <MaxJizzy> corrupt cd, and hardware.
[08:29] <MaxJizzy> cd installations is bad, mkey?
[08:30] <Dr_Willis> http://wiki.winehq.org/GoogleSketchup
[08:30] <IndyGunFreak> MaxJizzy: i'm actually leaning towards hardware problem.... he has a 9.04 CD that he knows is good, because he's used it before, and gets to the partition stage, and freezes
[08:30] <ipatel> guys.. single user mode in KArmic? anyone know? plz help
[08:30] <Pricey> IndyGunFreak: MaxJizzy: Why trust hte past, you can run an integrity check before booting from it?
[08:30] <Psinetic> MaxJizzy: then do you think we might want to let the upper level guys know they need to find a way to fix this if it ever happens again?
[08:30] <IndyGunFreak> i think he was jst unlucky that the drive took a dump during the upgrade
[08:30] <MaxJizzy> Pricey, but my hardware problem is my cd reader
[08:30] <IndyGunFreak> Pricey: he said he did
[08:31] <node357> Anyone know how to enable line-in on SB X-Fi sound card?
[08:31] <MaxJizzy> and it did screw up my hard disk
[08:31] <Dr_Willis> I like how i can get 9.10 booting from the ISO File on a pen drive via Grub2 :)
[08:31] <MaxJizzy> gpardet did not able to format
[08:31] <MaxJizzy> but windows did
[08:31] <MaxJizzy> my laptop is 10 years old
[08:31] <n3o> ubuntu-fr
[08:31] <node357> No one replied on Ubuntu fourms either. This sucks.
[08:32] <MaxJizzy> and still running well. without a working cd
[08:32] <Dr_Willis> node357:  the x-fi has a history of bad linux support sadly.
[08:32] <node357> Dr_Willis, I've been able to use it on every distro except Ubuntu.
[08:32] <Psinetic> IndyGunFreak: MaxJizzy: so what can we do to solve this problem for everyone else?
[08:33] <Dr_Willis> node357:  play with the mixer i guess. or install the other alsa-mixers and twiddle with the mixers then
[08:33] <lizzzy> Anyone know what do I do for a "Load Error 15"?
[08:33] <IndyGunFreak> Psinetic: don't quit an upgrade in the middle of upgrading
[08:33] <Psinetic> IndyGunFreak: it bugged out, not my fault ::P
[08:33] <IndyGunFreak> Psinetic: exactly, and since we dont know why it happpened, there's nothing we can do to prevent it for other people
[08:33] <IndyGunFreak> i suspect hardware.. but we'll see
[08:33] <lockd> Dr_Willis: node357: supposedly the X-Fi drivers for OSS are a little better
[08:33] <IndyGunFreak> it could have been any number of things that caused it
[08:34] <lizzzy> I get it before grub loads
[08:34] <Psinetic> IndyGunFreak: i'm suggesting yes that i use the windows cd to fix it, but in case this happens again to someone else for any reason, there should be a walkthrough to get them back on track
[08:34] <node357> lockd, I just set up OSS, and the line-in still doesn't work. Something in Ubuntu is messing it up.
[08:34] <bobsacamano> hi, i have ubuntu netbook edition running gnome, and its great. i installed xubuntu-desktop (xfce) to see if i could get better power-management, but it was very little change. 2 questions- how do i uninstall xfce, and whats a light gui to install? i prefer gnome to remain the default one, but id like to have a somewhatstripped down thing like windowmaker or something similar to conserve battery power
[08:34] <IndyGunFreak> Psinetic: well, walkthroughs aren't created for when something fails.
[08:34] <aprilhare> question: if 2.6.30 kernel had support for your webcam and you discovered karmic's 2.6.31 has mysteriously dropped your webcam, what should you do?
[08:34] <IndyGunFreak> they are typically created to make things go right.. but like i said, i think you have a hardware problem
[08:34] <joaopinto> aprilhare, file a bug report
[08:35] <lockd> aprilhare: and then install uvcvideo
[08:35] <MOUD> Hey all
[08:35] <aprilhare> joaopinto: i filed reports on launchpad in cheese and under the kernel
[08:35] <aprilhare> lockd: uvcvideo? ok i'll try that (whatever that is)
[08:35] <IndyGunFreak> Psinetic: unfortunately, there could be a myriad of things that caused the upgrade to fail(server failure, conneciton failure on your part), or you could ahve had some sort of hardware failure, or who knows what else.. bottom line, an upgrade got hosed in the middle of upgrading
[08:35] <Psinetic> IndyGunFreak: yes i understand. i'm saying, at least something that may work. heck i got like 1,000 windows xp cd's from work, and if it works, i'd be happy to upload it to some kind of server for everyone to grab so they can use it to fix this problem, but honestly ubuntu should be prepared for this.
[08:35] <lockd> node357: ugh, even making sure the mixer is set properly in ossxmix can be a pain
[08:36] <joaopinto> Psinetic, windows xp CDs do not fix hardware problems
[08:36] <IndyGunFreak> Psinetic: ok... assuming its a hardwaer problem.. how can ubuntu prepare for hardware problems?
[08:36] <IndyGunFreak> joaopinto: i been tryin to explain that for 20min.
[08:36] <Pricey> aprilhare: giving us the device id (the output from the command 'lsusb') would be helpful so we know exactly what chipset your camera has.
[08:36] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[08:36] <raven_> could ANYONE tell me why this upgrade sucks everytime
[08:37] <aprilhare> uvcvideo not available in synaptic?
[08:37] <aprilhare> Pricey: good idea
[08:37] <Dr_Willis> raven_:  it hates you?
[08:37] <lockd> aprilhare: it's the usb video class drivers. and there's no guarantee that it's a kernel issue
[08:37] <Zero_Cool> whats going on everyone
[08:37] <raven_> i do not have the time to fix every ...... problem that appears here permanently
[08:37] <joaopinto> Psinetic, the proper solution for your problem is well know, go to your vendor as ask for a repair, or buy new hardware
[08:37] <joaopinto> known
[08:37] <Psinetic> IndyGunFreak: no i mean, if the windows cd is able to wipe the partition and sets it straight, then that means that the ubuntu partitioner is not prepared to handle such a situation where windows is. i'm not saying it's better, i hate windows anyways, but it seems to be my only option at the moment. i'm just hoping the windows partitioner is able to wipe the drive.
[08:37] <IndyGunFreak> Psinetic: you need to isolate this to either a software problem, or a hardware problem... ranting about ubuntu, is not going to fix a hardware problem, if its a software rpoblem, fix it.. crap happens... something happened during your upgrade, its happened to quite a few folks at one time or another
[08:38] <Pricey> Psinetic: The Ubuntu cd is able to do that.
[08:38] <node357> So why is Ubuntu disabling the line-in on my sound card?
[08:38] <IndyGunFreak> Psinetic: IF.. boot the xp cd and see if it can
[08:38] <bobsacamano> anyone know? i do sudo apt-get remove xubuntu-desktop but it only says 1pkg and 45k will be freed up
[08:38] <aprilhare> lockd: ok. but a package named uvcvideo not present. what do i install?
[08:38] <IndyGunFreak> Pricey: ... i'd not wander into this mess if i were you... :)
[08:38] <Pricey> bobsacamano: afterwards, do sudo apt-get autoremove
[08:38] <GrossHans> wau.. looks like the update for Ubuntu One client in 9.04 works
[08:38] <Dr_Willis> bobsacamano:  its a meta-package that just 'pulls in' other packages when installed...
[08:38] <joaopinto> Psinetic, wiping partitions is not fixing a problem, anyway you should be able to delete partitions with the regular "fdisk" if gparted fails
[08:38] <IndyGunFreak> Psinetic: you're saying if if if... but yu've not verified if xp can fix the drive yet.
[08:38] <Dr_Willis> bobsacamano:  trying to remove stuff in bulk like that can often remove thints you dont want
[08:38] <lockd> aprilhare: check to see if it's supported here http://linux-uvc.berlios.de/
[08:38] <IndyGunFreak> if XP fixes the drive and allows you to install.. then you'd have a logical complaint
[08:39] <bobsacamano> Dr_Willis, right. how do i uninstall all those packages that came with xfce though? they dont uninstall with the xubuntu-destkop removal id prefer not to hunt through synaptic :)
[08:39] <Psinetic> :P ok IndyGunFreak imma log off now and see if it works
[08:39] <Pricey> bobsacamano: afterwards, do sudo apt-get autoremove
[08:39] <Psinetic> be back in a little while folks
[08:39] <PsyberS> anyone know why amixer (or ALSA in general) is still trying to connect to pulseaudio, after i uninstalled pulseaudio? =o
[08:39] <IndyGunFreak> ok
[08:39] <aprilhare> lockd: i'd like to point out the webcam worked under 2.6.30 kernel (nightly build)
[08:39] <lockd> aprilhare: and yes, you have to install the Linux headers and compile it
[08:39] <bobsacamano> Pricey, ran it, noothing freed up
[08:39] <Dr_Willis> bobsacamano:  try what Pricey  said.. but watch carefully what its removeing.
[08:39] <Pricey> bobsacamano: how did you install xubuntu-desktop?
[08:39] <lockd> aprilhare: oh, well do you still have that kernel?
[08:39] <kevin__> help! I need to free up some space on my drive -- i literally have 0 bytes left. are there some log files i can delete or something?
[08:39] <bobsacamano> Pricey, apt-get
[08:39] <node357> PsyberS, sound in Ubuntu doesn't make any sense...
[08:40] <joaopinto> PsyberS, /usr/share/alsa/pulse.conf
[08:40] <joaopinto> node357, please stop doing useless comments
[08:40] <aprilhare> lockd: not on website mentioned
[08:40] <Pricey> !puregnome | bobsacamano See the following, but be *very* careful at looking at what it removes. Don't just accept it without looking. Make sure you do not remove critical stuff.
[08:40] <lockd> aprilhare: your camera isn't?
[08:40] <mercury^> Hi. How can I disable pulseaudio this time?
[08:40] <Pricey> bobsacamano: hmm... that isn't what I Wanted
[08:40] <bobsacamano> kevin__, check /var/log
[08:40] <aprilhare> lockd: still have that kernel.
[08:40] <joaopinto> mercury^, touch $HOME/.pulse_a11y_nostart ; echo autospawn = no|tee -a ~/.pulse/client.conf ; killall pulseaudio
[08:41] <aprilhare> lockd: it was a nightly build and as such had limitations.
[08:41] <joaopinto> mercury^, but the gnome mixer applet will stop working
[08:41] <DigitalKiwi> Pricey: ! we thought you were dead
[08:41] <Pricey> bobsacamano: http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome be very careful with that.
[08:41] <aprilhare> but yes it worked with my webcam
[08:41] <node357> joaopinto, please don't label my comments as useless, it's insulting and I won't take the abuse
[08:41] <Dr_Willis> kevin__:  theres also some apt-get clean, or apt-get autoremove command that can clean out some things.
[08:41] <PsyberS> joaopinto: good thought, but that files removed when i removed 'pulseaudio' ;)
[08:41] <mercury^> joaopinto: thanks!
[08:41] <Trezker> I installed kmix to get a sound applet
[08:41] <joaopinto> node357, you have just insuled all the ubuntu developers, which work to get sound in Ubuntu, so please do not offend other people first
[08:41] <Dr_Willis> kevin__:   5% of your hard drive is 'reserved' also for root ussage. thats tuneable with the 'tune2fs' command.
[08:41] <lockd> aprilhare: oh, I was going to suggest "holding" the kernel until it got fixed
[08:41] <joaopinto> node357, specially on a support channel
[08:42] <node357> joaopinto, I can tell you first-hand that sound does not work right in Ubuntu.
[08:42] <lockd> Trezker: if you don't use kde you can just install gnome-applets/mixer
[08:42] <node357> You wouldn't know that because you've been ignoring me up until I said something that bothered you.
[08:42] <joaopinto> node357, and I was refering to your comments, not to your person, and youc comments are useless because they don't provide any usefull purpose for the person seeking help
[08:42] <joaopinto> !ot | node357
[08:42] <Pricey> node357: Sound works well in Ubuntu for me.
[08:42] <akrohit> Hi, I am having problems with mplayer in karmic
[08:43] <bobsacamano> Pricey, thanks man, i think thats what im looking for. but i dont think its uninstalling thme, it hits a few missing packages and i think its stop
[08:43] <Dr_Willis> Pricey:  same here. :) but i gave up on creative cards.
[08:43] <Pricey> node357: Sound does not work well in Ubuntu for you, on your hardware, with your current configuration.
[08:43]  * DigitalKiwi blames linus
[08:43] <joaopinto> node357, I don't ignore anyone, I don't have nothigng to help you, so I don't reply, and you should do the same when replying to other users, if you don't have nothing useful to reply, don't
[08:43] <aprilhare> lockd: there is already lsusb output attached to my bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/460118
[08:43] <DigitalKiwi> it's all  his fault!
[08:43] <node357> Pricey, it's Ubuntu's fault. Not my hardware's. Every other distribution works fine with the same damn ALSA drivers in recent kernels.
[08:43] <node357> I'm done with this crap.
[08:43] <DigitalKiwi> if he hadn't started this social revelation we could all be happily using windows
[08:44] <Dr_Willis> It would be nice tohave some 'mic input' training/config wizard - seems often getting line/mic in working canbe more effort then it really should be,
[08:44]  * aprilhare followed proper bug reporting proceedures
[08:44] <lockd> Linus let in ALSA, which isn't bad, all Unices have their own special audio drivers
[08:44] <dupondje> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.5/+bug/466228
[08:44] <dupondje> please confirm
[08:44]  * IndyGunFreak blames mark shuttleworth
[08:44] <Trezker> gnome-applets/mixer ? I don't think a package/executable has a / in it
[08:44] <lockd> Trezker: that's a gnome package and a subdir
[08:44] <aprilhare> dupondje: yes firefox is a bug ;)
[08:45] <Dr_Willis> its always fun when you spend  an hr trying to get mic in working.. then you plug the thing into the proper input.. it works in 3 sec.. :)
[08:45] <aprilhare> dupondje: genuine 64 bit flash is not supported by canonical
[08:45] <lockd> Trezker: it's in the gnome-applets source, but it's not built, so you have to go back and build it
[08:45] <aprilhare> dupondje: by which i refer to the 64 bit flash alpha Adobe have on their website
[08:45] <DigitalKiwi> which is quite nice
[08:45] <PsyberS> hey i dont mind pulseaudio, it worked fine in 9.04 for me but in karmic my SPDIF refuses to work now with pulseaudio installed
[08:45] <dupondje> aprilhare: well I know, but still, its prolly same issue with plugin included
[08:46] <PsyberS> uninstalling pulseaudio lets the SPDIF work through ALSA, but for some reason ALSA is defaulting to still try to use pa!
[08:46] <bobsacamano> Pricey, do you have a small x-server gui that you like? ive heard about windowmaker and fluxbox, what are your thoughts? i stripped xfce down a bit but it didnt offer much better battery life than gnome
[08:46] <Marsmensch_> i have some problems to understand this howto for suse http://pastebin.com/m2b6382b7 and bring it to run in ubuntu ... i have placed the config file in /etc/sysconfig/ ... but i don't think it is the right place ... but can anyone explain me what means line 5 an 7?
[08:46] <Pricey> bobsacamano: I use gnome.
[08:47] <mercury^> Well, I don't see why the installation would default to pulseaudio, as very few really need it and everyone else has to live with the delay it adds.
[08:47] <DigitalKiwi> openbox is the best floating wm out there :D
[08:47] <Dr_Willis> bobsacamano:  reducing your window manager is not going to do much to  battery life. theres all sortsof other things that suck down battery faster.
[08:48] <aprilhare> dupondje: we all have bugs reported that won't get touched in a long time. for instance this one https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cups/+bug/452765
[08:48] <Trezker> and how do I build the gnome mixer?
[08:48] <Dr_Willis> bobsacamano:  cpu is one big drain yes.. but the HD & LCD brightness are  proberly also  big drains
[08:48] <lockd> Trezker: is all you want a mixer, or is sound broken?
[08:48] <Trezker> Just the mixer, sound works fine
[08:48] <lockd> Trezker: well, just use kmix if you already installed it and don't want to mess with compiling
[08:49] <bobsacamano> Dr_Willis, i have the cpu throttled ok, and a ssd. :) thanks though
[08:49] <bobsacamano> Pricey, Dr_Willis thanks your guys help. im out for the evening, have a good night
[08:49] <PsyberS> Trezker: sudo apt-get install gnome-alsamixer
[08:49] <Dr_Willis> bobsacamano:   You are proberly going to get about much battery life as you can.
[08:49] <Dr_Willis> bobsacamano:  get a little foot powered generator.. :)
[08:50] <g0th> hi
[08:50] <Sensiva> !upgrade
[08:50] <lockd> Trezker: you also won't have the gnome sound preferences, so you have to use gconf to turn off alert sounds and all
[08:51] <mediadata> hi guys...
[08:51] <mediadata> how i find a driver print canon pixma ip1800 with ubuntu jaunty
[08:51] <g0th> when I upgraded from karmic my whole mail system "vannished". Before I used shredder now I have thunderbird (I thought they were the same?!). Anyway, 90% of my mail is gone, a lot of settings are lost, I had to rename .thunderbird-3.0 to .mozilla-thunderbird to get any information at all and certificates and passwords dont properly work anymore. What do I do?
[08:52] <kevin__> do i need any logs found in /var/log?
[08:53] <lockd> mediadata: cups drivers search shows 0 hits for pixma
[08:53] <ugur> hi, all. I have upgraded jaunty to karmic and now when i try to recconfigure virtualbox for the new kernel via /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup it says: unable to find the sources of your current Linux kernel
[08:53] <kevin__> anyone hit this error before: "Please check for broken packages with synaptic, check the file permissions and correctness of the file '/etc/apt/sources.list' and reload the software information with: 'sudo apt-get update' and 'sudo apt-get install -f'."
[08:53] <mediadata> lockd, i try...
[08:54] <ugur> kevin__: have you installed sun java lately?
[08:54] <g0th> anyone please?
[08:54] <kevin__> trying to get eclipse-pydev
[08:54] <kevin__> ugur, trying to get eclipse-pydev
[08:55] <mediadata> lockd, so un support it ?
[08:55] <ugur> try installing it via command prompt instead of synaptic
[08:55] <kbp> I'm planning to buy a single-core Atom cpu for Ubuntu server. Will I notice any difference if I use dual-core? Which one does Ubuntu work best with? Thanks
[08:55] <goodnight> grub 2 is beta in karmic?
[08:55] <lockd> mediadata: it says it's supported here, but I've never used Canon due to previous annoyances http://www.openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Canon-PIXMA_iP1800
[08:56] <PsyberS> kbp: that really depends on your needs, but for a *server* you probably want multiple cores
[08:56] <dr3mro> hey guys i did hear that rhythmbox is ceased development and no new features any more does that mean it will not be part of next ubuntu ??
[08:56] <mediadata> lockd, go there... thx...
[08:56] <ugur> kevin__: It may be because it requires you to agree on something which you dont see in synaptic but you may see in apt-get
[08:56] <DigitalKiwi> lol atom server...
[08:57] <dondako> sziasztok
[08:57] <kbp> PsyberS: the need is a home server to store files, and possible, web server as well
[08:57] <IndyGunFreak> goodnight: i don't think its beta anymore, or it probably wouldn't have been used in the release
[08:57] <kevin__> ugur, hmm weird, i had run out of diskspace so couldn't complete the install/download of requried packages...but ocne i freed upp enough space and finished...it worked
[08:57] <kevin__> ugur, so much for failing gracefully huh? thanks for the help
[08:57] <ugur> kevin__: fine. Failure is the way to understanding
[08:57] <PsyberS> kbp: to be honest, most atom devices im aware of are clients and not servers, if you insist on using an atom i would highly recommend the multi-core
[08:58] <dr3mro> hey guys i did hear that rhythmbox is ceased development and no new features any more does that mean it will not be part of next ubuntu ??
[08:58] <kevin__> ugur, understaning a failure is the way to understanding
[08:58] <PsyberS> dr3mro: no need to repeat the same message over and over
[08:58] <IndyGunFreak> dr3mro: dunno... who cares, there's plenty of good music apps
[08:58] <kevin__> ugur, ubuntu sometimes makes this hard
[08:58] <dr3mro> IndyGunFreak, can you plz point me to one so i can try
[08:59] <DigitalKiwi> mpd + ncmpcpp
[08:59] <dryg> xmms
[08:59] <DigitalKiwi> audacious > xmms
[08:59] <dryg> ;[
[08:59] <kbp> PsyberS: I decided to go with atom because of its 60W power consumption. It beats all micro-atx/atx system in this field :)
[08:59] <IndyGunFreak> dr3mro: banshee, amarok, audacious, songbird.. those are 4 that immediately come to mind
[08:59] <Dr_Willis> when in doubt - check the package manager.. its amazing the things you find in there
[08:59] <dondako> hi I have a problem.  ubuntu 9.10. wifi signal very low. wifi type: Tp-Link  TL-WN422G. Idea?
[08:59] <secret901> My desktop is just a black screen.  I tried changing my desktop background but the desktop image stays the same.
[09:00] <assoguerozen_sx> guys, u know how to resolve the winspool.drv error in wine (takes alot to start wine)?
[09:00] <lockd> dr3mro: songbird seems to be the best if you're looking to replace rhythmbox
[09:00] <dr3mro> banshee >>mono . amarok >>kde audacoius >>no liberary - songbird >>>memory hug
[09:00] <Dr_Willis> secret901:  ive seen some issues where the wallpaper dident change. till i logged out/in..  not sure why. some service crashed/restarted I think
[09:00] <Rhubarb_> kbp, my server is currently a crusoe 800MHz low power unit, it's fine for personal webserver / file sharing / print server
[09:00] <DigitalKiwi> dr3mro: http://omploader.org/vMjgyag lower left is ncmpcpp, it's awesome assuming you like cli stuff...
[09:01] <zanden2> i've a certain package in two ubuntu repositories , the first one ubuntu universe , the second from ppa , how to force apt-get install to install the package from ppa repository ?
[09:01] <secret901> Dr_Willis: When I log out, I do see my desktop background, but it disappears once I log in again.
[09:01] <lockd> dr3mro: audacious no library? it uses WAY more than libc
[09:01] <Dr_Willis> secret901:  thats... weird.. Unless you got some compiz settings changeing it.
[09:02] <secret901> Dr_Willis: I upgraded to 9.10 from 9.04 and didn't change any Compiz setting.
[09:02] <kbp> Rhubarb_: how much power does it need? (i.e. the psu)
[09:02] <MasterofPuppets> Hey guys, if I'm using Ubuntu right now and I want to make my system boot from a windows disk, how do I do that?
[09:02] <Rhubarb_> kbp, I'm not sure, it's an old laptop, I'd guess at 20W or less
[09:02] <secret901> MasterofPuppets: you have a separate partition containing your Windows installation?
[09:03] <spO> are any o you using deluge ? it doesn't work after install karmic
[09:03] <cooter> can anyone help me out with getting my wirless to work on an hp laptop
[09:04] <IndyGunFreak> cooter: whats the chipset on the device?
[09:04] <secret901> cooter: does Ubuntu recognize the device?
[09:04] <psinetic> IndyGunFreak, up and running.
[09:04] <IndyGunFreak> psinetic: great... see if you can install 9.10
[09:04] <Lunar-> c
[09:05] <psinetic> already did
[09:05] <IndyGunFreak> oh.. damn that was fast.
[09:05] <secret901> After I upgraded to Karmic Koala, my desktop background is just a black screen.  I tried changing it but don't see any difference.
[09:05] <IndyGunFreak> psinetic: now i'm curious why gparted wouldn't format the drive
[09:05] <cooter> it recognized it when i installed ubuntu and it showed the available networks but when i restarted the computer this morning it didnt even recognize that it had a wireless chip installed
[09:05] <IndyGunFreak> but it doesn't really matter at this point
[09:06] <psinetic> yeah...so now we need to make a solution for this problem. it's obvious i'm not the only one that this has happened to. so, for some reason whatever it is, the upgrade crashed in the middle of it. it doesn't matter why it crashed, fact is, it did, and it almost wrecked the hard drive in the process.
[09:06] <secret901> cooter: is there a button on your laptop that enable/disables the wireless?
[09:06] <IndyGunFreak> psinetic: well, obviouisly something happened during the upgrade.. it could have still been hardware related(ie, server failed, you or the server lost its connection etc.)
[09:06] <secret901> cooter: is your wireless light on?
[09:06] <lockd> psinetic: it does matter why it crashed otherwise there's no way to fix it yeah
[09:07] <IndyGunFreak> again, way to many variables to try and just say, "Oh, it was the upgraders fault"
[09:07] <joaopinto> psinetic, a software install will not affect your hardware integrity, if there is something wrong with your hard disk, it is not related to the install, it was just exposed during the install
[09:07] <psinetic> IndyGunFreak, lockd, no, what i mean is, the way i fixed it was with a windows cd formatting the partition
[09:07] <IndyGunFreak> psinetic: and i've yet to see someone w/ your problem, other than you.
[09:07] <psinetic> that other guy earlier said he had the same problem and had to do the same thing
[09:07] <bjarni> hi
[09:07] <secret901> My desktop background is just a black screen and I can't change it.
[09:08] <IndyGunFreak> psinetic: there were probably other options... but you got it worked out, drink a milkshake and relax
[09:08]  * psinetic goes and grabs a milkshake and sits back to watch the simpsons
[09:08] <psinetic> :D
[09:08] <bjarni> will my day be ruined if I upgrade 9.04 to 9.10?
[09:08]  * IndyGunFreak is watching Married w/ Children
[09:08] <Dr_Willis> secret901:  see if it works for a newly made user..  every so often i just bite the bullet and totally clean out all my gnome settings and start from stratch.
[09:08] <IndyGunFreak> bjarni: not just your day, your next few days
[09:08] <psinetic> bjarni, just don't quit the install midway through
[09:08] <psinetic> LOL
[09:08] <cooter> i have been working on this for a couple of days and the pressure switch is pressed it wont work to turn the wireless back on so when i got the driver activated again i disconnected the switch in the on position and it was working but know it doesnt even recognize there is a driver installed
[09:08] <Dr_Willis> bjarni:  your mileage may vary. :)
[09:08] <lockd> I used to have to nuke the partition table before Anaconda would install properly, but I've never seen anything like that in Ubuntu/Debinstall
[09:09] <IndyGunFreak> psinetic: lmao.. that should realy go w/o saying
[09:09] <secret901> Dr_Willis: I just changed my compiz settings to none
[09:09] <IndyGunFreak> lockd: me either, but go figure...
[09:09] <psinetic> *sigh* that was really..REALLY annoying
[09:09] <bjarni> im running at turtle speed these days - cant make that much difference
[09:09] <secret901> Dr_Willis: and my background appears
[09:09] <psinetic> ok so i give it 30 minutes before my next problem comes up
[09:09] <Dr_Willis> secret901:   compiz hjas some feature to do wallpaper. but i never use it.
[09:09] <bjarni> here goes....
[09:10] <natschil> I'm getting an invalid signature error for jaunty security, how can I fix this?
[09:10] <PsyberS> secret901: oh ya, i had that problem in jaunty and forgot how i solved it :)
[09:10] <secret901> PsyberS: does it have to do with Compiz?
[09:10] <PsyberS> secret901: you cant let compiz manage the desktop wallpaper and nautilus
[09:10] <secret901> Dr_Willis: I don't want to disable Compiz, but it seems to be my solution right now
[09:10] <IndyGunFreak> psinetic: lol, 30min?
[09:11] <PsyberS> secret901: theres a setting in compiz to do wallpapers, disable that
[09:11] <Dr_Willis> secret901:  clean out all the old settings. or explore compiz and find the setting
[09:11] <psinetic> IndyGunFreak, you have no idea how many bugs and problems i've run into back to back on ubuntu.
[09:11] <PsyberS> secret901: the plugin 'Wallpaper'
[09:11] <Dr_Willis> I found a neat Compiz setting that puts ROOT: in the title of any windoes running  with root access :) by exploring compiz
[09:11] <IndyGunFreak> psinetic: no disrespect, are they actual bugs and problems, or user malfunctions?.. cuz honestly, i've not had major problems w/ ubuntu, since probably 6.10
[09:12] <secret901> PsyberS: how do I change my Compiz settings? I only disabled it via Appearance
[09:12] <Dr_Willis> IndyGunFreak:  I see lots of PEBKAC also :)
[09:12] <IndyGunFreak> Dr_Willis: exactly.. :)
[09:12] <Dr_Willis> !ccsm | secret901
[09:12] <PsyberS> secret901: i installed simple-ccsm
[09:12] <sl1ck> how do I KILL upstart ?
[09:12] <Dr_Willis> sl1ck:  err.. why doyou even think you need to do that?
[09:12] <psinetic> IndyGunFreak, well maybe it is user malfunctions, but i just see them as problems that just won't go away >_>
[09:13] <IndyGunFreak> i did have a wireless issue for about 4mo in 8.04, but i think thats cuz the device was to new.. it came around in 8.10
[09:13] <peterP> I just installed Ubuntu 9.10 server on an USB stick, attached the stick to an old PC and booted it. Grub loads without problems, but than nothing (black screen) happens and the system just restarts after a couple of minutes. the normal 9.10 desktop install works fine this way. how do I find the problem?
[09:13] <sl1ck> Dr_Willis: err.. why do you think I don't want to?
[09:13] <lockd> sl1ck: upstart is INIT.. you do NOT want to kill that
[09:13] <IndyGunFreak> psinetic: well, what problem doesn't go away?
[09:13] <Dr_Willis> sl1ck:  because upstart handles all the init processes - its replacing the sysv system. its not somthing you just start/stop
[09:13] <PsyberS> secret901: use 'compizconfig-settings-manager', search for 'wallpaper' and make sure its unchecked
[09:13] <lockd> sl1ck: start with init=/bin/sh :P
[09:13] <secret901> PsyberS: I called compiz-manager and it crashed on me
[09:14] <sl1ck> lockd: it wont allow me to kill other pids
[09:14] <psinetic> IndyGunFreak, well i'll have to see how it goes in karmic, but in jaunty i had at least three problems that no one knew how to fix. i was on the irc for a week asking for help and no one knew
[09:14] <sl1ck> how do I kill random pids ?
[09:14] <PsyberS> i recently upgraded to karmic, and i have a broken ankle... what package do i remove to fix it?
[09:14] <sl1ck> it resurrects them
[09:14] <juniecho> hi, i'm on 9.10 now, can't get any usb mice to work. thumbdrives are working fine, only mice are causing trouble. what's the problem?
[09:14] <IndyGunFreak> psinetic: well what was one of those problems?.. just curious
[09:14] <Dr_Willis> sl1ck:  what are you trying to kill exactly?
[09:14] <psinetic> IndyGunFreak, for example: i could go into the places menu and click on one of the links at the top column (there are three columns total, the top one though) and it would up and play a dvd if i had one in, and if i dind't have one in, it wouldn't do anything.
[09:15] <sl1ck> Dr_Willis: for example wpa_supplicant or avahi just to name a few
[09:15] <Dr_Willis> sl1ck:  to stop services  you should be using the proper command to stop them. not just killing the pid.
[09:15] <Rhubarb_> juniecho, that's weird, try running:  sudo lsusb   which should tell you what ubuntu sees connected to your usb ports
[09:15] <Dr_Willis> sl1ck:  'sudo service SeRVICENAME stop'
[09:15] <lockd> sl1ck: wpa_supplicant isn't being started by init directly, it's being started by NetworkManager
[09:15] <PsyberS> anyone know why i have to 'renice +19 dhclient' in order to connect to encrypted wifi networks?
[09:15] <MasterJimmy> IndyGunFreak, changed my nick from Psinetic to MasterJimmy
[09:15] <IndyGunFreak> MasterJimmy: lol, well, thats a first i heard on that one.
[09:15] <MasterJimmy> IndyGunFreak, yeah, no one knew how to fix it
[09:16] <sl1ck> lockd: if I kill NetworkManager upstart restarts it again
[09:16] <joaopinto> PsyberS, no idea, but you should file a bug report about that
[09:16] <MasterJimmy> IndyGunFreak, also another problem:
[09:16] <lockd> sl1ck: sudo service NetworkManager stop
[09:16] <lockd> sl1ck: err, sudo service network-manager stop
[09:16] <cooter> indy: you got any ideas on the wireless driver issue?
[09:16] <IndyGunFreak> MasterJimmy: again, no disrespect, but when you have a problem that nobody else has, and it is an unknown problem to this channel or forum, its usually the one variable this channel can't predict..(i'll let you figure out the answer)
[09:16] <MasterJimmy> IndyGunFreak, my system wouldn't get rid of the system wide proxy settings. it always tried to connect to tor. even after i took it off and applied system wide
[09:17] <sl1ck> ouch...what happened to the good ol' kill/pkill stuff ...
[09:17] <juniecho> Rhubarb_, ubuntu seems to recognize my mice. it's in the list.
[09:17] <raven_> is there any boot-system that provides netboot options also to systems they can't do netboot itself?
[09:17] <Dr_Willis> raven_:  ive seen netbook 'cd' and 'floppies' that sort of jumpstart non net-bootable machines
[09:18] <lockd> sl1ck: again like Dr_Willis said you should use the service manager or /etc/init.d/service-name stop
[09:18] <joaopinto> MasterJimmy, that is not a system problem, is a user proble, you were the one setting it up to use a proxy
[09:18] <MasterofPuppets> Hey guys, if I'm using Ubuntu right now and I want to make my system boot from a Vista disk, how do I do that?
[09:18] <Dr_Willis>  init.d/whatever may NOT be the proper way any more in 9.10 :)  use the 'service' command :)
[09:18] <raven_> Dr_Willis, netbook??
[09:18] <sl1ck> this upstart thingy is one persnickety little ...
[09:18] <secret901> MasterofPuppets: You want to reboot the computer and log onto Vista?
[09:18] <MasterJimmy> IndyGunFreak, haha, yeah i know what you mean. i'm quite sure alot of these problems i bring on myself, but at least if i report them as a possible problem no matter how bizar, someone should be able to help, and if not, as a community sit down and figure it out for the next guy who comes along witht he same problem.
[09:18] <joaopinto> MasterJimmy, sudo os-prober && sudo apt-get grub-update
[09:18] <sl1ck> fine, fine
[09:18] <TheFunkbomb> could someone help me permanently mount a partition using fstab?
[09:18] <Rhubarb_> juniecho, I don't have much experience with x input devices (unless it's a wiimote) :s
[09:18] <cooter> anyone know anything about wireless drivers?
[09:18] <chazco> On Ubuntu 9.04 you could watch DVB by using totem-xine - but this isn't possible on 9.10 (regression again?). Any fix? Using me-tv currently but it's a bit buggy...
[09:18] <sl1ck> thanks anyways
[09:18] <Dr_Willis> raven_:   my aao netbook can netboot :)
[09:18] <lockd> Dr_Willis: well I was saying /etc/init.d/ was the proper way with sysv
[09:18] <Caroline83> hello, good morning
[09:19] <MasterJimmy> joaopinto, what's the first one do?
[09:19] <IndyGunFreak> MasterJimmy: thats just not feasible
[09:19] <Caroline83> May I please ask for help?
[09:19] <Dr_Willis> lockd:  yep. and now 9.10 is a bit of a mixture of the 2. perhaps the next release will be all upstart.
[09:19] <joaopinto> MasterJimmy, it will attempt to detected other OSes boots
[09:19] <MasterofPuppets> secret901: When I reboot, I'd like the system to boot from the DVD instead so that I can install it
[09:19] <MasterJimmy> !ask | Caroline83
[09:19] <raven_> Dr_Willis, do you remember which system this can do? what you described is something i am looking for
[09:19] <Caroline83> Thanks ubottu, will do
[09:19] <MasterJimmy> joaopinto, oh, well the problem is solved now :)
[09:19] <TheFunkbomb> lol
[09:19] <secret901> MasterofPuppets: What is it currently doing?
[09:20] <lockd> Dr_Willis: isn't upstart a drop-in replacement for init? or are there some quirks
[09:20] <raik> dsl internet not connecting in 9.10 after upgrade?
[09:20] <Dr_Willis> raven_:  not really. I just watch distrowatch and saw it on there. I think  the edubuntu disrto may of had some extras like tha talso
[09:20] <secret901> MasterofPuppets: does it currently boot straight into Ubuntu?
[09:20] <MasterofPuppets> secret901: Yeah, straight into Karmic
[09:20] <assoguerozen_sx> guys, u know how to resolve the winspool.drv error in wine (takes alot to start wine)?
[09:20] <Dr_Willis> lockd:  thers all kinds of quirks. :) one of which is people trying to use the sysv commands.
[09:20] <secret901> MasterofPuppets: Change your BIOS settings to boot from the DVD drive
[09:20] <joaopinto> MasterofPuppets,  sudo os-prober && sudo apt-get grub-update
[09:20] <aprilhare> best method to burn ubuntu iso's to cd?
[09:20] <joaopinto> oh, DVD drive
[09:20] <joaopinto> sorry
[09:20] <joaopinto> :P
[09:20] <Caroline83> I just installed Ubuntu 9,10.  After rebooting, it drops me into a tty session and a logon prompt.  How can I fix my display tyoe and start X?
[09:21] <joaopinto> !burn | aprilhare
[09:21] <alexb92> hey guys, just wondering if theres a quick way to install packages that i have already downloaded, i havea massive folder of over 2500 and i dont want to go through each one individually
[09:21] <TheFunkbomb> could someone please help me set up a mount point for a partition using fstab?
[09:21] <kosmic> License: Open Source
[09:21] <kosmic> Price: Free
[09:21] <kosmic> Heh you'll have to get rid of that
[09:21] <cooter> my computer recognized my wireless driver when i installed ubuntu and i was able to use it till i shut down my computer last night when i restarted it this morning it doesnt even show up in the hardware drivers. any one got any ideas?
[09:21] <MasterofPuppets> secret901: How does one do this? :P
[09:21] <joaopinto> alexb92, sudo dpkg -i *.deb, but be carefull, make sure you dont install incompatible packages
[09:22] <zcat[1]> alexb92: dpkg -i *.deb
[09:22] <secret901> MasterofPuppets: when you reboot your computer, you can typically go into the BIOS settings by pressing F2
[09:22] <zcat[1]> heh
[09:22] <TheFunkbomb> cooter, plug in with an ethernet cable and type sudo apt-get update
[09:22] <Dr_Willis> alexb92:   last i did a bulk install like that.. a lot of the packages were also older versions/extras/redunand... to be carefull
[09:22] <alexb92> what goes in place of the asterisk?
[09:22] <Dr_Willis> alexb92:  * is a wildcard. :) bash basics
[09:22] <alexb92> ohk cool
[09:22] <raven_> who knows a system that boots up a pc from usb-drive or cd and then gives a list of netboot systems?
[09:22] <Dr_Willis> alexb92:  try 'echo *' and see
[09:22] <Rhubarb_> alexb92,   dpkg -i *.deb
[09:22] <cooter> thefunkbomb: thanks man will try
[09:22] <mrfelton> Since upgrading to Karmic the other day, my mouse has been acting up a little. It seems to freeze for about half a second quite freequently. Generally, it is when I do something like closing a tab in firefox (ctrl+w), or switching virtual desktop using a hot key (ctrl+1/2/3/4). I'd say that it almost always involves using the ctrl key...
[09:22] <alexb92> yeah its all good, ive just backed up my old ubuntu packages after that install screwed up
[09:22] <TheFunkbomb> it always works for me
[09:22] <Dr_Willis> with that many packages alexb92  * may not work.
[09:23] <lockd> the only dir I have with over 2500 packages is the APT cache
[09:23] <mrfelton> is this known about?
[09:23] <alexb92> so im trying to restore things slowly
[09:23] <secret901> MasterofPuppets: your computer should briefly display a message like "Press F2 to enter BIOS" on bootup
[09:23] <mrfelton> anything I can do?
[09:23] <Dr_Willis> alexb92:  theres a limit to the #/size of a command line.
[09:23]  * MasterJimmy reaches out and gives IndyGunFreak a really really big hug and hands him a box with a blowup doll in it. "So long and thanks for all the fish." :D lol, i'm not leaving though, so just thanks for all the help and sorry for the headache
[09:23] <MasterofPuppets> secret901: Oh, alright, sounds good :)
[09:23] <lockd> alexb92: it's probably better to reinstall
[09:23] <chazco> mrfelton - I've noticed that with cut/copy/paste... using ctrl... interesting
[09:23] <alexb92> dr_wilis: sorry but would u be able to give me an example of what to type into terminal, im kinda a noob at all this
[09:23] <Dr_Willis> alexb92:  if the packages are in the  /var/cache/apt directory  and you try to reinstall the package. it should use the version allready downloaded and not redownload them
[09:23] <IndyGunFreak> MasterJimmy: lol, you can keep the blow up doll... no problem, glad its resolved
[09:23] <Severite> I purchased a used computer, and loaded ubuntu 9.10 on it, but apparently the wireless card is Broadcom and I cant figure out how to install the firmware.  I have the firmware for both fwcutter and the broadcom drivers sitting on the desktop, but Im at a loss of the next step.....  Thank you very much if anyone can help me
[09:23] <alexb92> lockd : yeah i did, i just upgraded to 9.10
[09:23] <secret901> MasterofPuppets: you should do it quickly before it boots into Ubuntu
[09:23] <mrfelton> chazco, yep, copy/paste does it to... and opening a new tab in firefox
[09:24] <aprilhare> hmmm the default cd burning software misreports the free cd space as 12 MB
[09:24] <lockd> alexb92: so why do you need to install that many packages?
[09:24] <IndyGunFreak> Severite: which broadcom is it?.. do you have a option to enable it in sys/admin/hardware drivers
[09:24] <aprilhare> yes brasero
[09:24] <mrfelton> chazco, I have a Dell XPS M1330
[09:24] <cooter> the funkbomb: its done. do i need to restart?
[09:24] <TheFunkbomb> cooter, unplug the wire and then give it a shot
[09:24] <alexb92> lockd : had them from the past version i had installed, i didnt really want to bother and re download them all again
[09:24] <TheFunkbomb> if it doesn't work, try rebooting
[09:24] <Caroline83> dir
[09:24] <Severite> No, I do not, but it is in the list of "supported" chipsets
[09:25] <InsomniaCity> Hi! My Koala upgrade install stage is running at the moment, but whenever it tries to retrieve something from the web, like mstt-corefonts or flashplugin-installer, it tries to retrieve it from 1.0.0.0...
[09:25] <secret901> MasterofPuppets: http://michaelstevenstech.com/bios_manufacturer.htm
[09:25] <MasterofPuppets> secret901: Alright, sounds good! Time to re-find my Vista :P
[09:25] <IndyGunFreak> Severite: which chpset is it?
[09:25] <alexb92> dr_willis : so if i copy all the packages in there, they will install, correct?
[09:25] <joaopinto> alexb92, you should not intall .debs prepared for other ubuntu version, they are likely to break your system
[09:25] <cooter> the funkbomb: it still doenst show up in hardware drivers so ill restart and be back in a minute
[09:25] <TheFunkbomb> cooter, no wait
[09:25] <alexb92> joaopinto: even if they worked fine in 9.04?
[09:25] <Dr_Willis> alexb92:  No.. they will be there if you try to install them with the normal package manager tools.. they wont redownload
[09:25] <TheFunkbomb> cooter, don't look in the hardware drivers, just try to use the wireless card
[09:25] <Severite> BCM 4311
[09:26] <lockd> they will if they are old packages, Dr_Willis
[09:26] <joaopinto> alexb92, yes, .debs are developed and tested for specific releases
[09:26] <MasterJimmy> a friend of mine once before gave me a list of all the apps he had installed on his computer. http://psinetic.pastebin.com/m4bcd4990 how do i set these all to install at once on my computer through terminal?
[09:26] <joaopinto> !clone | master_of_master
[09:26] <Dr_Willis> lockd:  yep.. thats a benifit :) you dont want tobe forceing older stuff to install
[09:26] <joaopinto> ops
[09:26] <joaopinto> ^ MasterJimmy
[09:26] <MasterJimmy> that is i
[09:26] <alexb92> dr_wilis: ohk cool , thanks, yeah i got all the packages from /var/cache/apt/archives so im trying to put them all back in place thats all
[09:26] <cooter> thefunkbomb: im still not getting the option to turn my wireless on
[09:27] <TheFunkbomb> cooter, restart then
[09:27] <cooter> thefunkbomb: alright back in a sec
[09:27] <alexb92> joaopinto : i aim to install everything not caring if they are compatible or not, and then get synaptic to update them all
[09:27] <KeiKurono> hi
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[09:27] <secret901> cooter: is the wireless light on in your laptop?
[09:27] <zcat[1]> or sudo rmmod b43 ; sudo insmod b43  should work
[09:27] <KeiKurono> what's better supported, ubuntu or debian, nowadays?
[09:27] <Dr_Willis> alexb92:  the safeest way would of been to generate a list of what was installed befor.. then reinstall them properly.
[09:27] <IndyGunFreak> Severite: does the machine have internet access, other than wireless?
[09:27] <MasterJimmy> joaopinto, you were going to say something?
[09:27] <cooter> secret901: no
[09:27] <Dr_Willis> KeiKurono:  depends on how you defind 'support' :)
[09:27] <Severite> No =(
[09:27] <joaopinto> alexb92, well, you have been warned, don't get back here complaining about a broken system
[09:27] <alexb92> jaopinto : when i was using 9.04, during the installation process i had a power outage, the interent protocol andd many other things screwed up, so i couldt fix them the conventional way
[09:28] <TheFunkbomb> could someone please help me with permanently mounting an NTFS partition?
[09:28] <IndyGunFreak> Severite: http://es-la.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=167701472697&comments&ref=mf
[09:28] <Caroline83> I just installed Ubuntu 9,10.  After rebooting, it drops me into a tty session and a logon prompt.  How can I fix my display type and start X?
[09:28] <secret901> cooter: is there a button or a combination of buttons on the keyboard you can use to turn it on?
[09:28] <alexb92> jaopinto : even the alternnate cd didnt work for me to upgrade my system, so i did a clean install and am putting things back
[09:28] <IndyGunFreak> Caroline83: well what happens when you type startx
[09:28] <KeiKurono> Dr_Willis, with the largest / better community, and with more / better packages
[09:28] <Dr_Willis> TheFunkbomb:  install/run ntfs-config tool.. can automate that
[09:28] <joaopinto> Caroline83, login into the console and try: startx
[09:28] <MasterJimmy> joaopinto,
[09:28] <Dr_Willis> TheFunkbomb:  or add a line to fstab similer to -> /dev/sda1 /media/VistaBoot ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 0
[09:28] <alexb92> joaopinto : its all good, in my opinion i have nothing to lose :)
[09:28] <joaopinto> !clone | MasterJimmy
[09:29] <TheFunkbomb> yes, that's what I wanted
[09:29] <Dr_Willis> KeiKurono:  ubuntu community is proberly the largest out there..
[09:29] <TheFunkbomb> fstab
[09:29] <cooter> secret901: yes but i disconnected it when i got my wireless working last night because when you press the switch itll shut the wireless off and im left with the same problem i have now
[09:29] <IndyGunFreak> Severite: lemme know if that works, i've been curious about that, and don't have any broadcom devices
[09:29] <KeiKurono> Dr_Willis, as i thought thx
[09:29] <MasterJimmy> joaopinto, ok now that's just outright confusing
[09:29] <PoOkette> Bonjour
[09:29] <proctis> elo
[09:29] <g0th> hi can anyone in here help me with shredder to thunderbird upgrade?
[09:29] <Dr_Willis> TheFunkbomb:  it pays to readup/learn how linux mounts things and the fstab works. :) the ntfs-3g docs are good to read also. Lots of neat things in it.
[09:30] <secret901> cooter: what did you disconnect?
[09:30] <PoOkette> Bonjour à tous! vous en avez marre de votre server !! venez sur /server -m irc.tchat-world.fr ou sur http://tchat-world.fr pour java ! Nous recherchons CM, op, Géo... pour d'éventuelle poste a venir :)Bonjour à tous! vous en avez marre de votre server !! venez sur /server -m irc.tchat-world.fr ou sur http://tchat-world.fr pour java ! Nous recherchons CM, op, Géo... pour d'éventuelle poste a venir :)Bonjour à tous! vous en avez
[09:30] <PoOkette> Bonjour à tous! vous en avez marre de votre server !! venez sur /server -m irc.tchat-world.fr ou sur http://tchat-world.fr pour java ! Nous recherchons CM, op, Géo... pour d'éventuelle poste a venir :)Bonjour à tous! vous en avez marre de votre server !! venez sur /server -m irc.tchat-world.fr ou sur http://tchat-world.fr pour java ! Nous recherchons CM, op, Géo... pour d'éventuelle poste a venir :)Bonjour à tous! vous en avez
[09:30] <FloodBot2> PoOkette: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:30] <Severite> Im perusing it now, looks like it may be beyond my level atm, though.  Im green to linux in general
[09:30] <IndyGunFreak> g0th: thats really an application issue..
[09:30] <cooter> secret901: the pressure switch
[09:30] <msk> hi
[09:30] <IndyGunFreak> Severite: beyond your level?.. he tells you exactly what to do.
[09:30] <IndyGunFreak> you can't browse a CD?
[09:30] <secret901> cooter: that switch turns on or off the wireless?
[09:30] <infidx> can a live cd be used to tell me if ubuntu will let me use my 2 monitors as dual monitors?
[09:31] <IndyGunFreak> infidx: sometimes.. my dual screen nvidia works on the live CD
[09:31] <Dr_Willis> infidx:  depends on your video card... :)
[09:31] <msk> please help me out i am not able to open lotus notes 8.0.2 in ubuntu 9.10
[09:31] <infidx> i have nvidia
[09:31] <Dr_Willis> infidx:  i often find the live cd's out do not activate both lcd's here.
[09:31] <IndyGunFreak> infidx: which nvidia card
[09:31] <infidx> IndyGunFreak did it work out of the box
[09:31] <Dr_Willis> infidx:  or  they activate both in clone mode by default.
[09:31] <cooter> secret901: when i disconnected it i still had the option to turn the wireless on and off from the network connections and it worked there but when i restareted my computer this morning it wont even recognize the driver
[09:31] <pradeep> is there no gui for ubuntu server jaunty??
[09:31] <IndyGunFreak> Dr_Willis: i think it gets activated in clone..
[09:31] <lockd> infidx: but note, when you install your shiney proprietary nVidia drivers, that can gum up the works
[09:32] <Dr_Willis> infidx:  getting twinview /2 monitors going on a single nvidia card is rather straight forwared
[09:32] <infidx> Nvidia Geforce 9100 integrated 256mb graphics dvi/vga
[09:32] <Dr_Willis> IndyGunFreak:  yep. and it clones badly here.. i got 2 different sized monitors.
[09:32] <Caroline83> joapinto: thanks!  will reboot and try startx, hold onn...
[09:32] <infidx> i dont like clone mode
[09:32] <Dr_Willis> Install nvidia drivers.. run nvidia-settings tool.. activate both monitors/twinview.. restart X server. :)
[09:32] <IndyGunFreak> infidx: the biggest problem i had, was saving the settings to xorg.conf, because it doesn't exist in 9.10 anymore, so i took a xorg.conf from my 9.04 install, plugged it in, and nvidia-settings saved the settings just fine..
[09:32] <secret901> cooter: is your wireless card a physical card that you can physically disconnect from your laptop?
[09:33] <IndyGunFreak> other than that, it worked fine
[09:33] <Dr_Willis> IndyGunFreak:  yea. I had a backup of my old xorg.conf i used.
[09:33] <IndyGunFreak> Dr_Willis: yeah,t hat was the only annoyance i had w/ it
[09:33] <cooter> secret901: yes theres a card underneath the cover on the bottom of my laptop that has two wires on it
[09:33] <Dr_Willis> the nvidia-settingds tool is getting a little old.. it needs  a refresh :)
[09:33] <x3464> anybody else notice that "favicons" are broken in the "Bookmarks Toolbar" in Firefox?
[09:34] <Caroline83> joapinto: when i type startx, i get "fatal server error, no screens found"
[09:34] <Severite> IndyGunFreak didn't realize it would self install, I was trying to figure out the terminal commands, Im installing htem now, I will let you know if it is successful
[09:34] <infidx> lockd arent all nvidia drivers proprietary? are you saying that installing them will mess things up?
[09:34] <Dr_Willis> infidx:  you may want to save my xorg.conf as an example in case you need to copy a fuller xorg.conf to your system (url follows)
[09:34] <Dhuski> What is a good alternative to WinSCP for Ubuntu?
[09:34] <Dr_Willis>  pastebinit  /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:34] <Dr_Willis> http://pastebin.com/f27237d80
[09:34] <IndyGunFreak> Severite: thanks.. keep in mind, you'll have to restart
[09:34] <secret901> cooter: how old is your laptop?
[09:34] <alexb92> oh guys interesting thing, i installed ubuntu to a separate hard drive on my computer, and grub has taken over as the default bootloader for all the hard drives on my computer
[09:34] <Severite> I suspected as much
[09:34] <Dr_Willis> Dhuski:  you can use the normal gnome file manager to access ssh/sftp systems
[09:34] <robin0800> cooter: you may have to press the wireless switch for a while to turn the card on
[09:34] <alexb92> is there a way to change this back ?
[09:35] <Dhuski> Dr_Willis, k thanks.
[09:35] <lockd> infidx: well, the open source nvidia drivers don't support 3D, and are little more than glorified VGA adapters
[09:35] <x3464> anybody else notice that "favicons" are broken in the "Bookmarks Toolbar" in Firefox?
[09:35] <cooter> secret901: im not sure its a compaq 6515b. i bought it off a friend if i had to guess its about a 2005 or 2006
[09:36] <Pumba> Hey where can I find stuff out about OSPF?
[09:36] <lockd> infidx: apparently Dr_Willis got twinview working fine with the proprietary drivers though
[09:36] <IndyGunFreak> looks like the morning crowd is showing up.
[09:36] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[09:36] <Pumba> Got a networking exam Monday
[09:36] <Pumba> @IndyGunFreak hey I like guns too!
[09:36] <Hajuu> facebook?
[09:37] <IndyGunFreak> Pumba: lol
[09:37] <secret901> cooter: and in order to have wireless capabilities, you have to use a separate card, right? do you know the model of your wireless card? it should say so on the card
[09:37] <lockd> Pumba: if you don't have a thick tome or notes with all the routing protocols described, then I say you probably have put off studying
[09:37] <Caroline83> joaopinto: when i type startx, i get "fatal server error, no screens found"
[09:37] <x3464> Can someone with Karmic please confirm that there are no favicons in the "Bookmarks Toolbar" within Firefox?
[09:38] <cooter> secret901: its a broadcom bcm4311
[09:38] <severity1> x3464, icons working fine inside bookmarks
[09:38] <Pumba> @lockd not really, just a few specific problems with no answers in course notes. I'm engineering, had a few big ass assignments right at the end of term so couldn't start studying till later than I wanted
[09:39] <x3464> severity1:  I mean in the "Bookmarks Toolbar".
[09:39] <amerinese> Anyone ever run into problems with Swiftfox on Ubuntu?  Don't see much information on it out there.
[09:39] <weili> Hi, could somebody help me? I updated Ubuntu yesterday and can't get Empathy to work with gmx-jabber. I tried lots of different settings, but none of them works and even tried reinstalling empathy and its libraries
[09:39] <Scorpion_on> join #ubuntu-ru
[09:39] <secret901> cooter: so the card is connected to the laptop when you booted up Ubuntu?
[09:39] <x3464> severity1:  Do you have a "dinosaur head" icon beside the "Getting Started" button?
[09:39] <lockd> Pumba: all I know of is Wikipedia and the RFCs. Which can be a nightmare to comprehend
[09:39] <cooter> secret901: yes
[09:40] <lockd> Pumba: and, I have been there
[09:40] <robin0800> amerinese: the beta? chrome is running fine here
[09:40] <severity1> x3464, yep the zilla icon
[09:40] <lockd> chromium works fine for me, except for some plugin crashes
[09:40] <secret901> cooter: are there lights on the card? are they on?
[09:40] <cooter> secret901: no lights on the card
[09:41] <amerinese> robin0800: I didn't know there was a beta version.  Wanted to know if it was really faster than FF and stable.  But not much in a quick Google search.
[09:41] <Pumba> @lockd I know it's a bitch. Thanks anyway!
[09:41] <C-S-B> robin0800, you running chrome or chromium?
[09:41] <secret901> cooter: so how do you know whether it's working?
[09:41] <rahmu> just upgraded to karmic, sound has gone off. help anyone ?
[09:41] <robin0800> cooter: lights on laptop?
[09:41] <juniecho> hi, usb mice are not working even after I removed "blacklist usbmouse" from /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf. mice are recognized correctly to ubuntu, can see their presence as when i type lsusb there are my mice on the list, and i can see red light coming in but it won't move. touchpad is working fine. what is the problem?
[09:41] <apuokas> try increasing the sound
[09:41] <apuokas> the volume
[09:41] <cooter> it was working last night when i reinstalled ubuntu
[09:42] <robin0800> C-S-B: crome .....................google
[09:42] <amerinese> Oh, no Swiftfox is an optimized compile of Firefox.
[09:42] <cooter> robin0800: yes there is a light on the laptop but its not on
[09:42] <ydur> hi there!
[09:42] <C-S-B> robin0800, is it running better than chromium?
[09:42] <secret901> cooter: where is this light?
[09:42] <lockd> juniecho: usbhid has replaced those devices
[09:42] <cooter> secret901: to the left of the mouse pad
[09:43] <robin0800> cooter: hold wireless switch till it lights
[09:43] <lockd> juniecho: err, replaced those drivers
[09:43] <pradeep> is there no gui for ubuntu server jaunty??
[09:43] <secret901> cooter: what is the label for this light?
[09:43] <ydur> i have a question: is there an alternative to torrents for downloading some good music?
[09:43] <x3464> severity1:  Did you do a fresh install of Karmic or upgrade?
[09:43] <juniecho> lockd, so is it better to leave those(usbmouse, usbkeybd) drivers blacklists?
[09:43] <cooter> secret901: a wireless icon
[09:43] <weili>  Hi, could somebody help me? I updated Ubuntu yesterday and can't get Empathy to work with gmx-jabber. I tried lots of different settings, but none of them works and even tried reinstalling empathy and its libraries
[09:43] <C-S-B> pradeep, no, why would you want one?
[09:43] <robin0800> C-S-B: yes very well no crashes at all
[09:43] <raik> dsl connection failing after upgrade to 9.10?
[09:43] <lockd> juniecho: probably. does the system have old PS/2 ports?
[09:43] <secret901> cooter: and there is a switch that can make that light go on and off?
[09:43] <th1> pradeep, the whole point of server is to save resources by omitting the guy
[09:43] <th1> s/guy/gui/
[09:44] <C-S-B> robin0800, does it do flash and java
[09:44] <lockd> juniecho: and/or does it work with another distro?
[09:44] <pradeep> th1:I know. I am using it for the first time so
[09:44] <severity1> x3464, a fresh install
[09:44] <juniecho> lockd, no. only usb. but either way(usbmouse blacklisted or not) it won't move. it worked fine with 9.04.
[09:44] <lockd> C-S-B: flash, yes, java plugin is kind of iffy
[09:44] <robin0800> C-S-B: yes flash java don't know
[09:44] <Pumba> @ydur have you tried Jamendo or some of the creative commons licensed music?
[09:44] <lockd> juniecho: okay, that tells me it's probably HAL configuration
[09:44] <th1> pradeep, if you really want to have a gui you can install one of the desktops on your server effectively "upgrading" to xubuntu or ubuntu desktop
[09:45] <cooter> secret901: yes but i disconnected it last night after i got it working and the computer recognized the driver but now i dont even get the option to turn it off and on from network connections
[09:45] <ydur> Pumba no never..i'll take a look
[09:45] <pradeep> th1: how do i do that
[09:45] <juniecho> lockd, oh thanks, but i'm not too familiar with ubuntu so where should i start?
[09:45] <ydur> Pumba what's it about?
[09:45] <IndyGunFreak> Severite: did it work?
[09:45] <Pumba> @ydur it's pretty sweet aye, mostly techno and electronica
[09:45] <secret901> cooter: so this swich is not part of your laptop or your wireless card?
[09:45] <lockd> juniecho: start with udevadm monitor, pull and replug the mouse, and pastebin the results
[09:46] <Severite> IndyGunFreak:  reinstalling the packages corrected it, thank you.  Any idea why it didn't detect/slash install them?
[09:46] <Pumba> @ydur basically music put out by artists with a creative commons license
[09:46] <ydur> Pumba mm..i need something more "universal"..
[09:46] <IndyGunFreak> Severite: because they are restricted apparently...
[09:46] <Pumba> @ydur so indy stuff
[09:46] <th1> pradeep, e.g
[09:46] <pradeep> th1: is it sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[09:46] <cooter> yes it is a part of the laptop i disonnected the ribbon under neath the keyboard
[09:46] <MasterofPuppets> Hi again all... how do I get to the grub menu exactly? Hitting escape on startup isn't doing anything and I can't edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:46] <Pumba> @ydur how do you mean? What instruments/genres
[09:47] <th1> pradeep, yes but that will install the full gnome desktop and all programs that go with it.. you may want something more lightweight for a server
[09:47] <juniecho> lockd, can you be a bit more... detail? udevadm says 'missing or unknown command'
[09:47] <ydur> Pumba yes..all kind of genres
[09:47] <robin0800> MasterofPuppets: its shift on grub 2
[09:47] <Severite> How would I have done it without them preinstalled on the LIVEcd?
[09:47] <IndyGunFreak> MasterofPuppets: well, menu.list, doesn't exist anymore w/ grub2
[09:47] <matahari> hi guys
[09:47] <th1> pradeep, one could be "sudo aptitude install -R xubuntu-desktop"
[09:47] <pradeep> th1: so what do i do
[09:47] <th1> pradeep, -R meaning "don't install recommended packages only required ones"
[09:47] <ydur> Pumba i used to run amule
[09:47] <th1> pradeep, that keeps it light weight
[09:47] <Dr_Willis> grub2 likes to hide the menu when you dont want it to.. :)
[09:47] <juniecho> lockd, i did udevadm monitor
[09:47] <pradeep> th1: ok
[09:47] <ydur> Pumba now i don't have fastweb anymore
[09:47] <MasterofPuppets> robin0800: Ah, shift is the key to be pressing? K
[09:47] <juniecho> lockd: is this right?
[09:47] <IndyGunFreak> Severite: you'd ahve either had to get a wired connection, or download them in some other way... thank broadcom for being jackasses, not Linux
[09:47] <MasterofPuppets> IndyGunFreak: Any equivalent file?
[09:47] <Pumba> @ydur it has that, basically anything you can think of
[09:48] <Pumba> @ydur, just google it and check it out!
[09:48] <IndyGunFreak> MasterofPuppets: grub.conf i think, but i have no idea how to edit it.
[09:48] <lockd> juniecho: err, that's odd, you should have at least gotten a suggestion to install a certain package
[09:48] <matahari> i am looking for a way to setup an ecnrypted directory where 2 users can write to. All files that the users write to that directory shall be read-and writeable by both users. has someone of you an idea how to solve that? is that possible with ecryptfs? Thanks in advance!
[09:48] <ydur> Pumba ok i'll have a look
[09:48] <MasterofPuppets> IndyGunFreak: I'll just try restarting and hitting shift, thanks @ thanks at robin0800! :)
[09:48] <Dr_Willis> MasterofPuppets:  if using gub2 you really want to edit the proper grub2 config files and rerun update-grub
[09:48] <ydur> Pumba thx
[09:48] <Padron_Toni> Hi everybody! As I didn't find the MINIMAL CD on ubuntu.com, I searched it "manually" and found this:
[09:48] <Padron_Toni> http://www.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/karmic/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/mini.iso
[09:48] <Padron_Toni> Is it reliable?
[09:48] <robin0800> IndyGunFreak: /etc/default/grub
[09:48] <FloodBot2> Padron_Toni: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:48] <secret901> MasterofPuppets: were you able to get into the BIOS settings?
[09:48] <juniecho> lockd, sorry it was already installed, i'll pastebin now
[09:48] <Dr_Willis> /etc/default/grub
[09:48] <apuokas> hello, anybody could help with font and flash problems in firefox?
[09:48] <MasterofPuppets> secret901: I don't think so
[09:49] <Pumba> @ydur no probs, hopefully it's what you're looking for
[09:49] <Dr_Willis> #GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=0
[09:49] <Dr_Willis> Note its 'commented' out. not just set to 0
[09:49] <IndyGunFreak> robin0800: i know that, but i don't think you can edit it easily like youc oudl w/ menu.lst
[09:49] <courpse> Humm, my sendmail is broked.
[09:49] <Dr_Willis> that should alaways force the menu to show.
[09:49] <secret901> MasterofPuppets: how did you install Ubuntu anyhow?
[09:49] <th1> courpse, why are you using sendmail?
[09:49] <juniecho> lockd, here you go http://paste.ubuntu.com/305748/
[09:49] <robin0800> IndyGunFreak: well i can
[09:49] <courpse> Um, why not?
[09:49] <dvrvm> good morning. just upgraded my server to karmic, now the system won't boot because the file system doesn't mount anymore... known problem?
[09:49] <MasterofPuppets> secret901: Downloaded the karmic image from the main site and installed
[09:49] <IndyGunFreak> robin0800: hmm, maybe its something i'm doing.. i've not really messed much w/ it
[09:49] <th1> courpse, because it's so 80's? ;)
[09:50] <lockd> juniecho: it seems to be provided by package 'udev', which if you don't have that's scary
[09:50] <courpse> Usually works fine.
[09:50] <robin0800> IndyGunFreak:  it uses uuid's
[09:50] <th1> courpse, but it's a monster to set up and maintain
[09:50] <IndyGunFreak> hmm
[09:50] <secret901> cooter: I'm not sure how to help you.  I think you should get that wireless light working again and see if Ubuntu would recognize the card again.
[09:51] <courpse> Well i have my own mail server, well at least did tell sending out going msgs failed, ;/
[09:51] <juniecho> lockd, i tried apt-get install udev and it reports that udev is installed and latest version.
[09:51] <Severite> Is there a good place to read up on how to install various things, and otherwise learn the ropes for this OS?  My last foray was xandros, and I ended up just giving up on it.
[09:51] <courpse> Now i cant send out with anyting it seems.
[09:51]  * MasterofPuppets is going to go try shift
[09:51] <lockd> juniecho: then I'm not sure why udevadm would be missing
[09:51] <Dr_Willis> Severite:  theres's 100's of sites for learning linux, and ubuntu basics. :) depends on where you want to start.
[09:51] <Dr_Willis> !training
[09:51] <IndyGunFreak> Severite: lots of sights.
[09:51] <Dr_Willis> Severite:  theres the gnome docs for starters
[09:51] <jimbeam12> anyone use lm-sensors
[09:52] <IndyGunFreak> Severite: google "Ubuntu guide" or "ubuntu pocket guide".. something like that... its a PDF that is useful... if you can't find it, i can email it to you
[09:52] <Dr_Willis> Severite:  since 9.10 just came out - some guides/docs might be a little out of date also. but the core fundamentals still apply
[09:52] <smegzor> What happened to freecell in 9.10?  Its completely missing!  My wife is mad at me for losing her favourite game :O
[09:52] <lockd> juniecho: but, did you do a clean install or an upgrade?
[09:52] <juniecho> lockd, udevadm was not missing. sorry i just made a mistake by not trying 'udevadm monitor'. i just did 'udevadm' and it just required 'monitor'
[09:52] <Dr_Willis> smegzor:  instgall pysol  :) it has 2000+ solitare variants
[09:53] <Severite> Ok, thank you, I will go see if I can track it down
[09:53] <th1> smegzor, you're right it's missing!
[09:53] <juniecho> locked, so i did 'udevadm monitor', and plugged out & in the mouse and it gave me this : http://paste.ubuntu.com/305748/
[09:53] <lockd> pysol is gone!
[09:53] <th1> smegzor, maybe you can install it from the old version
[09:53] <juniecho> locked: sorry i gave you confusion
[09:53] <Dr_Willis> Severite:  check the ubuntu links at -> http://delicious.com  also
[09:53] <IndyGunFreak> Severite: http://www.ubuntupocketguide.com/index_main.html
[09:53] <Dr_Willis> lockd:  its pysol-ng now i think.
[09:54] <lockd> well I mean it's not in apt
[09:54] <Dr_Willis> lockd:  i thinki had to get it from the web site last time also. been a while
[09:54] <smegzor> th1: I hope so or I'm in a lot of trouble!
[09:54] <dariuzas> maybe enybody know how to fix internet speed on ubuntu 9.10 ?
[09:54] <mesa> http://www.caglecartoons.com/images/preview/%7Bcc6d7125-7648-46e8-955d-ffcca926dce2%7D.gif
[09:54] <robin0800> Severite: the built in help is quite good IMHO
[09:54] <mesa> whoops
[09:54] <mesa> wrong window
[09:54] <FloodBot2> mesa: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:54] <Dr_Willis> lockd:  i always set it up on the friends windows bpxs :)
[09:54] <smegzor> of all the daft things to remove from Ubuntu.
[09:55] <Dr_Willis> smegzor:  i got IsleRiot solitare here
[09:55] <lockd> juniecho: well it detects the mouse all right, so it's probably X. anyway was this a clean install?
[09:55] <Dr_Willis> AisleRiot is a part of GNOME Games
[09:55] <juniecho> lockd, yes it was a clean install
[09:55] <lockd> juniecho: yeah, that makes it worse
[09:55] <dariuzas> maybe enybody know how to fix internet speed on ubuntu 9.10 ?
[09:55] <lockd> juniecho: can you paste the xorg log?
[09:56] <lockd> juniecho: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[09:56] <juniecho> lockd, what is the xorg log and how can i get access to it?
[09:56] <juniecho> lockd: thanks
[09:57] <Severite> I got beaten on trying to manually compile programs that wouldn't load with the autocompiler, most things (games, mostly) just wouldn't seem to load.  I appreciate all the help
[09:57] <Dr_Willis> what 'autocompiler' ?
[09:57] <juniecho> lockd: it's too long but here you go http://paste.ubuntu.com/305751/
[09:57] <crypto_> I need to remove my old kernels from the boot menu
[09:57] <crypto_> ow should i do it
[09:57] <Dr_Willis> Severite:  a lot depends on the exact program/package/whaterver  ;)
[09:58] <crypto_> How*
[09:58] <ki4cgp> dariuzas, I'm in the same boat as you.  I think it's a DNS issue.  I think it is getting hung up while trying to find the IP.  Once on a site, it seems to work fine until the server name changes
[09:58] <Severite> xandros utility that would install random programs
[09:58] <smegzor> Dr_Willis: She wants her old solitaire game back.  Nothing else is as good.
[09:58] <Dr_Willis> crypto_:  that system -> admin -> computer janitor tool can remove them.. but i would always leave at least one 'old' kenrel installed.
[09:58] <smegzor> Removing female friendly games from an OS is dangerous. :)
[09:59] <Dr_Willis> smegzor:  girls dont use linux... go install hello-kitty  games for her.
[09:59] <apuokas> smegzor, dual boot with windows for that game then :)
[09:59] <apuokas> wine could help too
[09:59] <smegzor> she already dual boots, but only for the tv (tuner)
[09:59] <Dr_Willis> My wife likes pysol.
[09:59] <crypto_> I have four boot options too kernels and two recovery
[09:59] <Pumba> So ... 5.56 or 7.62?
[09:59] <th1> smegzor, I wonder what the package was called in Jaunty because I can't find anything there that isn't in karmic
[09:59] <crypto_> So should i remove the old kernels?
[09:59] <Pumba> Glock or m1911?
[10:00] <Pumba> AR or AK?
[10:00] <Dr_Willis> crypto_: 2 kernels is not excessive.. remove the old if you want.
[10:00] <lockd> smegzor: wait, get a new HDTV tuner that actually supports Linux (and digital TV)
[10:00] <smegzor> I'm installing pysol in wine (didn't find a linux package)
[10:00] <Pedric> hi - are there any audigy2 users here?
[10:00] <dj__> hey guys i want to upgrade to 9.10 is there any problem with 9.10
[10:00] <crypto_> I have only two kernels, but i get two boot options for vista too, windows vista loader two times adn why is that?
[10:00] <smegzor> lockd: I have 3 including Hauppage.  None support Linux.
[10:00] <juniecho> lockd, i looked into the logfile and found out it IGNORED my trackball explorer: http://paste.ubuntu.com/305751/ what the heck!?
[10:01] <th1> smegzor, just a sec . :)
[10:01] <crypto_> cant find the computer janitor tool:(
[10:01] <Dr_Willis> crypto_:  on my machines one is for the 'recovery' partition these  PC makers like to put on your hard drives to 'restore' windows
[10:01] <gabel> hello i need a help new ubuntu 9.10 - firefox. i cant add any addon like adblock etc.. i cant even download xpi file from mozillas web. clear system... noob here :)
[10:01] <Dr_Willis> crypto_:  and the other is the actual windows system.
[10:01] <ki4cgp> crypto_, If I had to guess, it might be seeing both of your windows drives. one is a recovery partition
[10:01] <crypto_> Yes i have one recovery partition
[10:01] <Dr_Willis> crypto_:  system -> admin -> its in there on 9.10 at least..
[10:01] <lockd> smegzor: none of these? http://www.hauppauge.com/Pages/faq/support_faq_linux.html
[10:01] <th1> smegzor, it is still ther and always was :)
[10:02] <MasterJimmy> ok, i have to go grab some grub2.
[10:02] <juniecho> lockd: and clearly i DON'T have too many input devices... just built-in laptop keyboard, touchpad, tablet and this mouse :( can't believe this is too many.
[10:02] <lockd> juniecho: well, it's called someone should be fired, but they were probably an Xorg dev so weren't hired in the first place :P
[10:02] <crypto_> And i have one more problem, the same old headphone problem, sound comes from both headset and the default notebook speakers even if i put in the headset
[10:02] <dvrvm> looks like my updated karmic machine is still running on old kernel and therefore not loading the FS. how do i get it to run on the new one?
[10:02] <gabel> hello i need a help new ubuntu 9.10 - firefox. i cant add any addon like adblock etc.. i cant even download xpi file from mozillas web. clear system... noob here :) please help me...
[10:02] <th1> smegzor, try to run from command line, "/usr/games/sol --freecell"
[10:03] <smegzor> lockd: I got the PVR 3000 (with digital tv support).
[10:03] <th1> smegzor, I think you'll find it's the same from before
[10:03] <lockd> juniecho: ouch, it could be this... http://www.mail-archive.com/xorg@lists.freedesktop.org/msg07970.html
[10:03] <Severite> Thank you for your help, good night
[10:03] <smegzor> th1: Yay!  I'm saved!  Thanks :D
[10:03] <lockd> juniecho: well be glad your AT keyboard didn't get disabled, as has happened
[10:04] <MasterJimmy> i gotta go. dinner time. later folks.
[10:04] <juniecho> lockd, yeah it scares me :) well i think this is the right one but i'm not that good so what should i do with this?
[10:04] <Wibble-> Help! Trying to upgrade 9.04 to 9.10 my computer restarted half way through... Now I can get to a recovery shell, but otherwise it says that "one or more of the mounts listed in /etc/fstab can't be mounted"... Is my laptop pooped? Do I need to do a completely fresh install? or can I somehow recover stuff?
[10:04] <lockd> juniecho: maybe no choice but ripping out the new Xorg/HAL/evdev or whatever
[10:05] <juniecho> lockd: is this solvable by myself or do i just have to wait?
[10:05] <dvrvm> Wibble-: having a similar problem right now, on my box it looks like the system is still booting on the old kernle
[10:05] <crypto_> here is my alsamixer output http://paste.ubuntu.com/305754/
[10:05] <lockd> juniecho: well, it's like the opposite of waiting, it's going back
[10:05] <Wibble-> dvrvm, my install didn't finish and the new kernel isn't available
[10:05] <quimkaos> hi all! i had in 9.04 an application in system admin were i could see and restart system services... i'm not finding any packages for it in 9.10... does anyone knows the name of the/similar program
[10:06] <Pedric> Does anyone know how to get an Audigy2 to produce multi-channel surround sound through the new PulseAudio in 9.10? The old solution of setting default-sample-channels in /etc/pulse/daemon.conf does not work for me...
[10:06] <juniecho> lockd: okay... sounds scary, hope it doesn't disable my tablet pc...
[10:06] <dvrvm> Wibble-: In this case, I can't help you a lot :/
[10:06] <crypto_> hello can anyone tell me
[10:06] <ki4cgp> Wibble-, I would put the livecd back in and make sure you have all you need backed up, and then do a fresh install.  No telling what sorta mess that will make even if you finish off the install.
[10:06] <crypto_> Why aint the headphone working?
[10:06] <juniecho> lockd: and how can i go back?
[10:06] <speme> how can I run by LiveCD with harddisk power off?
[10:07] <Wibble-> :(
[10:07] <th1> crypto_, probably because of pulseaudio :(
[10:07] <crypto_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/305754/
[10:07] <crypto_> here is my alsamixer output
[10:07] <lockd> juniecho: well, it's a headache dealing with stuff like that, especially when you can't simply install old packages without possible breakage in other places
[10:07] <epinky> gabel: Try to create a new profile
[10:08] <th1> crypto_, its not possible to see everything on that dump
[10:08] <th1> crypto_, there is more to the right
[10:08] <lockd> juniecho: but from reading the mailing lists, I don't get the idea that the devs really care upstream
[10:08] <crypto_> thats it
[10:08] <gabel> epinky i will try and come back.. thx for idea
[10:08] <crypto_> Nothing more
[10:08] <ki4cgp> Wibble-, I know.  But I would advise that of any system that was hosed.  Even if the install finishes, you'll probably have things breaking afterwards, or at the very least, the system complaining about endless things
[10:08] <lizzzy> Hi!
[10:09] <crypto_> I have correct audio driver
[10:09] <SmokeyD> hey people. I just upgraded to karmic, but how can I change the theme of gdm? When i go to system->Administration->Login screen I can only choose if there is a login screen or if a user logs in automatically
[10:09] <alokito> !hi | lizzzy
[10:09] <crypto_> but the sound comes from both the speakers and the headset
[10:09] <SmokeyD> but I can't change the settings of the loginscreen anymore
[10:09] <th1> crypto_, that's pulseaudio's doing
[10:09] <Wibble-> ki4cgp, Thanks
[10:09] <crypto_> so what should I do?
[10:09] <th1> you're not hte only one with that problem after upgrading
[10:09] <crypto_> th1
[10:09] <alokito> SmokeyD: GDM is now version 2
[10:09] <Wibble-> ki4cgp, sorta :D
[10:09] <lizzzy> I'm getting a grub "load error 15" after I installed kubuntu from a liveUSB.
[10:09] <juniecho> lockd: so is this a BUG?
[10:09] <lockd> juniecho: a severe bug
[10:10] <SmokeyD> alokito: ok, so how do I change the look of gdm2
[10:10] <lockd> juniecho: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1221671
[10:10] <ki4cgp> Wibble-, You can keep asking.  I'm just a nobody =)
[10:10] <athlan> hi
[10:10] <slurp> hi, i have a problem with the mount of partition. exactly the disk manager say that the partition Dati is mount, but i don't find it on nautilus. please help me
[10:10] <lockd> juniecho: you say a tablet? it looks like it's related to the wacom tablet using up the allotted character devices
[10:10] <alokito> SmokeyD: search synaptic for gdm2 themes, im not sure if any is available yet
[10:10] <juniecho> lockd: it's tablet pc
[10:10] <quimkaos> ok then ... just how do i restart apache2
[10:11] <lizzzy> GRUB Loading stage1.5. GRUB loading, please wait... Load Error 15 .... ANYONE?
[10:11] <ki4cgp> Wibble-, I don't know all of this stuff, but I was just throwing out there what I would do
[10:11] <Wibble-> ki4cgp, Well I kinda figured that'd be the answer... but I'm still not happy with it :) Downloading the live cd now :/ (the standard desktop is also the live CD yes?)
[10:11] <lockd> juniecho: which has a touch screen, aka a tablet
[10:11] <ki4cgp> Yes, it normally is
[10:11] <sim642> I have live CD of Ubuntu 9.10 (downloaded when ubuntu.com already said it is relased / md5 hash match). Works but on shutdown the CD is ejected and my computer will just wait (black screen). Why the CD is ejected?
[10:11] <SmokeyD> alokito: but where do I change those settings of gdm2. Which tool do I use to make those settings?
[10:11] <deo> SmokeyD: I am not sure if this what you want buy try System/Preferences/Appearance
[10:11] <alokito> lizzzy: run update-grub from a live cd
[10:11] <mrwes> quimkaos, sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart  ?
[10:11] <SmokeyD> where do I choose the theme once it is installed
[10:11] <juniecho> lockd, yes, but touchscreen (finger touch) is not working, which is fine (i don't use finger touch)
[10:11] <th1> crypto_, try uninstalling pulseaudio and see if it still does the smae
[10:11] <alokito> lizzzy: are u using karmic or older ubuntu?
[10:11] <slurp> help me please
[10:11] <athlan> i havew an external hdd splitted into 2 ntfs partitions. Is it possible to merge those 2 partitions without loosing or deleting any data on the hd?
[10:11] <gluonman> I just attempted a dual-boot with Ubuntu 9.10 and Windows 7. I installed Windows 7 last and then used the Ubuntu live disc to recover grub. However, when I boot into Ubuntu, the mouse on my laptop no longer works with Ubuntu.
[10:11] <lizzzy> alokito: karmic
[10:11] <lockd> juniecho: did that just stop working too?
[10:12] <mrwes> SmokeyD, System | Pref | Appearance
[10:12] <SmokeyD> deo: no that is not what I want. I want to change the look of the login screen=gdm2, not of my desktop
[10:12] <fgt> !python
[10:12] <fgt> !python ide
[10:12] <alokito> lizzzy: ok sudo update-grub should work
[10:12] <athlan> and without formatting either partition?
[10:12] <mrwes> SmokeyD, you can't do that in Karmic, it was removed to speed boot time
[10:12] <th1> gluonman, the mouse working or not is completely unrelated to Windows 7/ dual booting
[10:12] <lizzzy> kewl, will do that alokito. Thanks :)
[10:12] <DigitalKiwi> !lua
[10:12] <DigitalKiwi> NOOOO! :(
[10:12] <lockd> juniecho: installing git master of hal or xorg, I'm not really sure, is supposed to support more devices
[10:12] <lockd> juniecho: but that's not easy either
[10:12] <SmokeyD> mrwes: I can't change the look of the loginscreen anymore on karmic?
[10:12] <Xed> Can someone help me solve an internet issue? Unable to open any site but ping is working...
[10:12] <mrwes> SmokeyD, not really :)
[10:13] <sun``> Im trying to install Ubuntu 9.10 but instead of using the disc, it starts downloading the files. Why?
[10:13] <gluonman> th1, well, it worked prior to installing Windows 7, and after installing it it stopped working, but only in Ubuntu. It still works in Windows 7.
[10:13] <al_> anyone know a free place i can host a 100meg image?
[10:13] <epinky> slurp: what sudo mount says?
[10:13] <lockd> juniecho: the easiest solution is probably downgrading until this gets fixed, which likely won't happen in Karmic at all
[10:13] <SmokeyD> that is a real shame! I had such a nice login screen!
[10:13] <Pumba> With the Cisco IOS, does anyone know how to interpret the output of the 'show ip route' command?
[10:13] <ki4cgp> sim642, The CD is ejected because it assumes your CD is not your OS, what is on your hard drive is the OS, and it is expecting you to resume your HD's install on reboot
[10:13] <juniecho> lockd, don't know. can't be sure as this 9.10 karmic is the first ubuntu version to make tablet working out-of-the-box. previous versions required manual compilation of tablet drivers... well it didn't work from the 9.10 installation surely.
[10:13] <juniecho> lockd, that's bad :(
[10:14] <DigitalKiwi> al_: omploader.org
[10:14] <alokito> sun``: what iso are u using?
[10:14] <athlan> i havew an external hdd splitted into 2 ntfs partitions. Is it possible to merge those 2 partitions without loosing or deleting any data on the hd?
[10:14] <athlan> and without formatting either partition?
[10:14] <juniecho> lockd: so looks like i have to wait for 10.04?
[10:14] <alokito> live cd?
[10:14] <kebomix> hello , i have ATI Radeon 3650 , how to install it's driver on ubuntu 9.10 ?
[10:14] <lockd> juniecho: oh, wait, 9.04 the tablet drivers didn't work?
[10:14] <SmokeyD> Why can't I choose what I want. It is cool that the default is not using themes for the gdm screen, but why can't I change the default. This is starting to look like windows where you can't change anything anymore
[10:14] <al_> DigitalKiwi: ta
[10:14] <Xed> Pumba: #cisco
[10:14] <DigitalKiwi> iirc it is 2^30 bytes
[10:15] <Dr_Willis> athlan:  you could resize one/ shrink the other some.. then copy the files from #2 to #1.. then repeate.. eventually shrinking #2 down till its empty
[10:15] <DigitalKiwi> i should know this offhand, i wrote a script to upload to it...
[10:15] <alokito> SmokeyD: u can switch back to old gdm if you want
[10:15] <juniecho> lockd, in 9.04 i needed to manually compile and install tablet drivers. in 9.10 the tablet works out-of-the-box
[10:15] <mrwes> SmokeyD, karmic uses GDM 2.28, vs the old 2.20, which most themes were written. I heard they are working on a GUI, but it might not be out until 10.04
[10:15] <slurp> epinky: i paste
[10:15] <slurp> !paste
[10:15] <juniecho> lockd: and in 9.04 touchscreen worked, though i always disabled it
[10:15] <gabel> epinky, it didnt work... i cant add addons for firefox when i run from live cd...
[10:15] <erUSUL> SmokeyD: new shiny gdm version. Less options and polish. You will have to wait till they are added back
[10:15] <Dr_Willis> athlan:  no idea whata you mean by 'without formating' :)
[10:15] <lockd> juniecho: hmm, and was this with a special driver set?
[10:15] <SmokeyD> mrwes, erUSUL: ok, they will be added back, than I'll be patient
[10:16] <juniecho> lockd, you mean 9.10?
[10:16] <SmokeyD> as long as they didn't drop it permanently
[10:16] <gabel> epinky, btw i cant access the ubuntu czech web on www.ubuntu.cz but from windows i can...
[10:16] <Xed> Hi Dr_Willis.... Can you help me solve an internet issue? Unable to open any site but ping is working...
[10:16] <lockd> juniecho: the drivers you manually installed
[10:16] <sun``> !torrents
[10:16] <alokito> I have no problem with the new gdm, it's cooler than before :)
[10:16] <slurp> epinky: the partition is sda5 http://paste.ubuntu.com/305757/
[10:16] <juniecho> lockd, just linuxwacom drivers.
[10:16] <yancho> anyone uses ubuntuzilla please?
[10:16] <Dr_Willis> Xed:  if you can ping via ip. but not via name - thats a sign of 'dns' issues.
[10:16] <DigitalKiwi> al_: yeah, up to a gig, enjoy the random crap >.>
[10:16] <erUSUL> SmokeyD: added back as in a few ubuntu releases not in a few days
[10:16] <epinky> gabel: then it's a conexion problem
[10:16] <smileg33k> Using Intel Core 2 Duo CPU 4400 @ 2.00 Ghz , 2 GB Ram, 300 GB Disk Space, what should ya all recommend to use , 64 bit or 32 bit OS ?
[10:16] <mrwes> SmokeyD, IMHO, it was kept pretty quiet about the change. But it was needed to get to meet the boot speed goals. you can check out this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8194795#post8194795
 I'm able to ping by name.
[10:17] <al_> DigitalKiwi: heheh ok
[10:17] <alokito> yancho: u don't need ubuntuzilla in karmic! ff 3.5 is already default in it
[10:17] <Dr_Willis> Xed:  depends on what app is doing it then. it could be a app specific or proxy setting issue then.
[10:17] <yancho> alokito,  .04 still just waitinga bit more befoer upgrading
[10:17] <lockd> juniecho: this is probably useless but it's a proposed solution: http://www.mail-archive.com/xorg@lists.freedesktop.org/msg07970.html
[10:17] <epinky> slurp: which partition do you want on nautilus?
[10:17] <lockd> oh, that's bluetooth issues only
[10:17] <mrwes> SmokeyD, however, I'm not all that impressed with the boot speed anyhow :)
[10:17] <SmokeyD> mrwes, erUSUL: ok, thanks for the info.
[10:17] <dj__> hey guys i want to upgrade to 9.10 is there any problem with 9.10
[10:17] <slurp> sda5 on /Dati
[10:17] <DigitalKiwi> al_: if you end up using it enough I have a lua script that lets you upload the files (and get the url) from the command line :)
[10:17] <volp> hola, buenos dias
 Fresh install.. no program is able to connect..
[10:18] <alokito> yancho: huh? I've upgraded to 3.5.4 right after installing karmic
[10:18] <SmokeyD> mrwes: it is ok here.
[10:18] <slurp> epinky sda5 on /Dati
[10:18] <erUSUL> !es | volp
[10:18] <alokito> it was in the update repo
[10:18] <Joric> hellp
[10:18] <erUSUL> !ask | Joric
[10:18] <dj__> hey guys i want to upgrade to 9.10 is there any problem with 9.10
[10:18] <gabel> epinky, yes.. but why on the same netbook on windows i can do that and on ubuntu i cant? properties are the same. i really dont know what now
[10:18] <ki4cgp> smileg33k, If you plan on ever putting in 4 Gigs of Ram, I'd use 64 bit
[10:18] <yancho> alokito,  i mean i am waiting a bit more to update to karmic .. im still on 9.0.4
[10:18] <Joric> i meant hello and help simultaneously
[10:18] <al_> DigitalKiwi: how else was i going to get the url to give to othres?
[10:18] <Joric> well ok
[10:18] <ubuntu> i just updated to karmic and it's really slow and there is no sound
[10:18] <dvrvm> can someone please send me a copy of his menu.lst to check something? it looks like update-grub sees my kernels but doesn't update menu.lst properly
[10:18] <juniecho> lockd, it looks promising but if this is a patch how could i... apply it?
[10:18] <alokito> dj__: nope but a fresh install performs better
[10:18] <Joric> 9.10 says monitor out of range
[10:18] <H2O> what should i do whit the hang over damn it :)
[10:18] <ubuntistas> Just installed gnome-shell how can i start it? i tried with terminal but nothung
[10:18] <lockd> juniecho: it won't work, it's bluetooth only
[10:19] <alokito> yancho: oh ok u didn't say u use jaunty
[10:19] <lockd> juniecho: the only way I can think of is digging through kernel/HAL/Xorg code and disabling the check manually
[10:19] <mrwes> dj__, I upgraded without any issues
[10:19] <daking> need help
[10:19] <DigitalKiwi> al_: well that's the point of it returning the url ;) otherwise it wouldn't do too much good
[10:19] <H2O> yo ppl do any one have any err in 9.10 ..
[10:19] <Joric> ---
[10:19] <Joric> while installing 9.10 says monitor out of range is there any workarounds excluding textmode install???
[10:19] <Joric> ---
[10:19] <dj__> alokito: i did upgraded 2 days ago i had problems with my grpahic card and sound problems
[10:19] <H2O> ??
[10:19] <alokito> yancho ubuntuzilla is very easy to use.... just download the .deb file from sourceforge and run ubuntuzilla.py from terminal after installing the deb package
[10:19] <lockd> juniecho: which would likely be commenting out a single line of code, but I can't really help much with that
[10:19] <daking> i know its the wrong place but but
[10:19] <alokito> dj__: yup u should do a fresh install
 Might be related, but I'm unable to change the system time
[10:19] <erUSUL> Joric: add vga option to boot options of the livecd...
[10:19] <yancho> alokito,  my question was about the plugins directory - but found it now :) thanks just the smae
[10:19] <daking> how do i block a certain internal ip  from internet
[10:19] <erUSUL> !boot | Joric
[10:20] <Haberdasher456> Does anybody know why gnome system monitor might show 3.1 instead of a full 4 gig of ram? (Ubuntu 9.10 64 bit)
[10:20] <Xed> its got the wrong time
[10:20] <erUSUL> !ufw | daking
[10:20] <juniecho> lockd, isn't that like compiling kernel or something? :(
[10:20] <alokito> yancho: your older plugins and preferences will remain
[10:20] <lockd> juniecho: worse, changing it
[10:20] <slurp> epinky the command says that the partiotion is mount but i don't visualize it
[10:20] <daking> !ufw?????
[10:20] <erUSUL> Haberdasher456: what does « uname -m » says ?
[10:20] <ki4cgp> Haberdasher456, Not sure, mine is showing 3.9G
[10:20] <Xed> I remember having net connectivity issues if the system time is off by a long margin
[10:20] <erUSUL> daking: is a firewall
[10:20] <juniecho> lockd: holy... i don't think i can do it :(
[10:20] <dj__> alokito: my graphic card is not supported on 9.10
[10:20] <daking> it is smoothwall
[10:20] <Dr_Willis> daking:  ufw it the normal firewall config tool for ubuntu
[10:20] <Joric> erUSUL, please be king tell me how to set vga mode on install
[10:21] <Dr_Willis> !info smoothwall
[10:21] <mrwes> erUSUL, good to point people to ufw and gufw, many keep telling people to use firestarter
[10:21] <nano> what are the commands for volume up/down ?
[10:21] <bcj> Just installed Ubuntu 9.10, however Ctrl+C doesn't work in the terminal.
[10:21] <daking> !info smoothwall
[10:21] <Haberdasher456> erUSRL, x86_64
[10:21] <juniecho> lockd, then is there anything like "device manager" from windows in ubuntu?
[10:21] <alokito> dj__: whats ur graphics card? it should work in karmic if it worked in jaunty
[10:21] <erUSUL> Joric: i directed to you the web page where to find the info. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[10:21] <ubuntu> anyone know how to get sound working in karmic?
[10:21] <lockd> juniecho: well, you can rip out the wacom drivers entirely
[10:21] <alokito> I don't see any reason why the driver would be removed in 9.10!
[10:21] <Haberdasher456> ki4cgp, you have 4 gig installed?
[10:21] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu:  it works here.. so perhaps give more info on your card and other details to the channel
[10:21] <smileg33k> ki4cgp: is 2 GB Ram, not enough ?
[10:21] <juniecho> lockd: so i can disable some devices of my choice... like bluetooth dongle
[10:21] <lockd> juniecho: also if you compile HAL and Xorg from their development repositories, it's supposed to support more devices at the same time
[10:22] <ki4cgp> Haberdasher456, I have 4 Gigs installed
[10:22] <erUSUL> mrwes: :) well i do not use it mayself but it is "official"; isn't it?
[10:22] <lockd> juniecho: it's only character devices
[10:22] <ubuntu> it worked fine before on 9.04, i just updated and there is no sound now
[10:22] <lockd> juniecho: and only the "event*" ones
[10:22] <mrwes> erUSUL, absolutely :)
[10:22] <dariuzas> maybe enybody know how to fix internet speed on ubuntu 9.10 ?
[10:22] <dariuzas> maybe enybody know how to fix internet speed on ubuntu 9.10 ?
[10:22] <ki4cgp> smileg33k, It depends on what you use it for.  In most cases, yes, it is enough.  If you are editing movies, then maybe not
[10:22] <Takinator> hi, I am using lmms on Ubuntu 9.10 and I cannot play anything. If I run lmms in a terminal, there is no error (except one "Notice: could not set realtime priority.")
[10:22] <FuzzyFox0> I am after some help (I have tried googling). I have a hp dv6000 and even when on mute I get the occasional click from the speakers. This is also true when I am not on mute. Audio is working though.
[10:22] <Takinator> When I click on the play button, nothing happens.
[10:22] <Haberdasher456> ki4cgp, I can't fathom why a 64 bit OS wouldn't see the full 4 gig
[10:22] <erUSUL> Haberdasher456: the it is very weird that do ot see all ram. Probably a kernel or bios bug. Can you pastebin your dmesg ?
[10:22] <alokito> !repeat | dariuzas
[10:23] <erUSUL> !paste | Haberdasher456
[10:23] <Takinator> Anybody can help me ?
[10:23] <FuzzyFox0> ubuntu 9.10 btw
[10:23] <slurp> epinky can you help me?
[10:23] <MiraiWarren0_0> ubuntu: elaborate
[10:23] <lockd> juniecho: so disabling devices probably won't help at all unless you want to disable all your input
[10:23] <epinky> slurp: are you sure they're ext4?
[10:23] <alokito> dariuzas: what's wrong with internet speed in 9.10?
[10:23] <dariuzas> internet speed is wery low
[10:23] <juniecho> lockd: sound bad :(
[10:23] <epinky> maybe that could be the problem
[10:23] <slurp> yes
[10:23] <ubuntu> the sound doesn't work. i don't know what's wrong with it. it worked fine in 9.04. i just updated, it doesn't work now... what else?
[10:23] <slurp> epinky yes
[10:23] <alokito> dariuzas: no it's not in my pc
[10:23] <dj__> alokito:  VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 01)
[10:24] <ki4cgp> Haberdasher456, 64 bit is designed mainly to address memory allocations 4G and larger
[10:24] <th1> is there an easy command to clean up (remove) all outdated kernel packages? I had karmic for several months and always updated so now there are like 10 old versions
[10:24] <ubuntu> i just updated to 9.10
[10:24] <alokito> dj__: karmic has better support for intel
[10:24] <juniecho> lockd: guess i'll just stick to win7 for now and wait for 10.04...
[10:24] <slurp> but
[10:24] <erUSUL> th1: use synaptic to remove the packages
[10:24] <slurp> mmm
[10:24] <alokito> dj__: do a fresh install and see what happens
[10:24] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu:  did it work on the live cd? thats a good 'test'
[10:24] <lockd> juniecho: oh, I thought you were just going to go back to 9.04
[10:24] <dj__> how is to do fresh install never done that
[10:24] <epinky> slurp: what happens when you open it with nautilus?
[10:24] <SmokeyD> erUSUL: this looks good as well: http://www.ubuntumini.com/2009/09/hack-karmics-gdm-login-screen.html
[10:24] <Haberdasher456> erUSUL, http://paste.ubuntu.com/305766/
[10:24] <lockd> juniecho: you do have backups, right?
[10:24] <erUSUL> th1: install linux-image that is a metapackage that will depend on the last-kernel aviable
[10:24] <slurp> epinky i delete the folder found&lost
[10:24] <alokito> dj__: I mean remove your old ubuntu and install karmic
[10:25] <ubuntu> Dr_Willis, i don't have cd rom. i updated from the updates window
[10:25] <th1> erUSUL, I have both of those but the older ones don't get deleted automatically
[10:25] <athlan> Dr_Willis i mean i dont want to format the disk, loosing all the files, and then reformat to one partition
[10:25] <th1> I was looking for an automatic way to do it
[10:25] <slurp> epinky i don't visualize the partition Dati
[10:25] <MiraiWarren0_0> ubuntu: probably a pulseaudio problem, using combined output maybe?
[10:25] <juniecho> lockd: of 9.04? yeah but i don't install many packages so it's no difference :)
[10:25] <dj__> alokito:is there any tutorial for upggrade fresh install
[10:25] <ubuntu> so how do i fix it?
[10:25] <Haberdasher456> ki4cgp, so it would see 8 gig, but not 4?
[10:25] <jhg> keyserver.ubuntu.com is DOWN ... any one here with ideas?
[10:25] <alokito> dj__: whats a "upgrade fresh install"? :o
[10:25] <slurp> epinky i don't visualize the partition Dati on the left of window
[10:25] <alokito> fresh install is fresh install
[10:26] <juniecho> lockd: will this bug be fixed in 10.04? maybe...
[10:26] <Diapo> hello, I have a problem. I have just update Ubuntu Desktop from 9.04 to 9.10. Now it doesn't boot. I can boot the machine using the "Recovery mode", then I run startx and I have access to the desktop. Could someone help me??
[10:26] <ki4cgp> Haberdasher456, Yes, it should see anything you have
[10:26] <epinky> slurp:what happens when you  put /Dati on nautilus
[10:26] <dj__> alokito: so you mean to format my pc and install 9.10
[10:26] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu:  i would make a live cd, or use the usb-creator tool to test it from a live-usb to verify that it does work.  I alway do clean installs, i never upgrade.
[10:26] <BlouBlou> Diapo: did you updgrade grub to grub2?
[10:26] <slurp> i don't see /Dati
[10:26] <FuzzyFox0> anyone?
[10:26] <Diapo> BlouBlou no, I have grub 1.5
[10:26] <alokito> dj__: no I mean to install 9.10 in a free space on your harddisk
[10:26] <epinky> just write it
[10:26] <jhg> keyserver.ubuntu.com, gpg: keyserver timed out
[10:26] <jhg> gpg: keyserver receive failed: keyserver error -- anyone got access to ubuntu staff?
[10:27] <alokito> why would u want to destroy all data in your hard drive to install ubuntu!?
[10:27] <epinky> slurp: just write it
[10:27] <jhg> alokito: move data to external drive?
[10:27] <ubuntu> Dr_Willis, there should be to get it to work though, right? it was just working a little while ago.. before the upgrade
[10:27] <BlouBlou> Diapo: try to updgrade to new grub, ubuntu 9.10 uses by default grub2 (with new installations)
[10:27] <jhg> alokito: people that dont use windows :p
[10:27] <erUSUL> Haberdasher456: i only see this Calgary: Unable to locate Rio Grande table in EBDA - bailing!    <<<
[10:27] <Haberdasher456> ki4cgp, Thats odd, I'm missing almost 25% of my memory
[10:27] <FuzzyFox0> I am after some help (I have tried googling). I have a hp dv6000 and even when on mute I get the occasional click from the speakers. This is also true when I am not on mute. Audio is working though.
[10:27] <alokito> jhg: do u have all data in the system partition?
[10:27] <Diapo> BlouBlou ok, I will go to upgrade the grub. Thank you
[10:27] <ki4cgp> Haberdasher456, Yep, it is very odd.  Mine shows up fine
[10:27] <natrixnatrix89> I just upgraded to new distribution and now all atheros madwifi drivers are lost. What to do?
[10:27] <jhg> alokito: I partition ;-)
[10:27] <erUSUL> Haberdasher456: dunno if it is important enough. report a bug against the kernel and provide the dmsg and /proc/meminfo
[10:27] <alokito> that's not very intelligent
[10:27] <erUSUL> !bugs | Haberdasher456
[10:28] <BlouBlou> Diapo: no problem
[10:28] <slurp> epinky i don't know what to do
[10:29] <Haberdasher456> erUSUL, I've never done that before. I'll see what I can do
[10:29] <MiraiWarren0_0> ubuntu: I think I remember now, I changed my output settings to "analog output" from "analog headphones.
[10:29] <dvrvm> BlouBlou: how do i get my system to install grub2 if i can't boot properly?
[10:29] <erUSUL> Haberdasher456: ok; good luck
[10:30] <erUSUL> !intelhda | FuzzyFox0
[10:30] <yancho> alokito,  problem is that NO plugins are found - and i would like to find the directory which they are in and soft link to /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/
[10:30] <ubuntu> MiraiWarren0_0, how do i do that? in what settings? i looked in sound but did not find anything i could change like that...
[10:30] <Diapo> dvrvm can you boot in the "Recovery mode"?
[10:30] <BlouBlou> dvrvm: try with live CD
[10:30] <mathew> how do I execute this command automatically every time my system boots? modprobe usbserial vendor=0x05c6 product=0x6539
[10:30] <DigitalKiwi> al_: did omploader/is omploader working for you?
[10:30] <matahari> how can i check the umask for a directory?
[10:30] <FuzzyFox0> erUSUL: thank you
[10:30] <MiraiWarren0_0> ubuntu: system->preferences->sound fourth tab from left
[10:30] <dvrvm> Diapo: no, because my file systems won't mount
[10:31] <meatbun> anyone got a link to the md5sum digest of 9.10?
[10:31] <ubuntu> MiraiWarren0_0: ya, the only option available is "dummy output"
[10:31] <Diapo> dvrvm ok, then try with the "boot CD"
[10:31] <Dr_Willis> mathew:  you could put that in /etc/rc.local for a fast and easy way
[10:32] <erUSUL> mathew: no need to do that edit /etc/modprobe.d/usb_serial_opt.conf file and add a line that says « options usbserial vendor=0x05c6 product=0x6539 »
[10:32] <mathew> i put it in /etc/modules but it is not working
[10:32] <al_> DigitalKiwi: it did thanks
[10:32] <danielle> for all those that have had the audiobug that comes with upgrading 904 to 910 please run this "sudo alsa force-reload"
[10:32] <erUSUL> mathew: the file can have the name you want
[10:32] <erUSUL> mathew: but it has to end in .conf :)
[10:32] <DigitalKiwi> al_: interested in the script so you don't have to go to the web interface to upload?
[10:32] <mathew> thanks erUSUL
[10:33] <zzzzzZZZZzzz> ◕ ◡ ◕
[10:33] <jpds> 4/13
[10:33] <yancho> anyone knows what is the plugins directory used by ubuntuzilla please?  problem is that NO plugins are found - and i would like to find the directory which they are in and soft link to /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/
[10:33] <danielle> to everyone that was involved with ubuntu 9.10 i THANKYOU cheers danielle
[10:33] <erUSUL> meatbun: it is in the same folder as the iso itself in all the mirrors
[10:33] <erUSUL> jpds: ? ;P
[10:34] <meatbun> erUSUL, i clicked download and it didn't give me antything, just a pop for DL and that's it
[10:34] <ubuntistas> i did a gnome-shell --replace how can i go to default now?
[10:35] <erUSUL> meatbun: ok; http://xx.releses.ubuntu.com/9.10/ <<< where xx is the iso code of your country ( us; uk ; es ; it etc )
[10:35] <posix> anyone awake?
[10:36] <CliffS> Hi.  I have an odd problem with pidgin. Whenever it starts up, it prints two pages each containing a few garbage characters. Pidgin v 2.5.5 Ubuntu 0904. Any ideas?
[10:36] <raik> dsl not connecting on new ubuntu 9.10?
[10:36] <posix> can anyone give me a hand with video problems on karmic?
[10:36] <AJH101> Hello - I have a very old laptop I would like to try Ubuntu on. What version would run on a ^$MB RAM machine please?
[10:36] <erUSUL> !ask
[10:36] <ubuntistas> i did a gnome-shell --replace how can i go to default now?
[10:36] <danielle> posix whats up
[10:36] <erUSUL> AJH101: ^$MB RAM ??
[10:37] <jefinc> is upgrading to karmic recommended?
[10:37] <BlouBlou> jefinc: yes
[10:37] <jrib> jefinc: depends on your situation.  If a supported version of ubuntu works for you, then that's fine
[10:38] <mathew> how do I enable laptop speakers?
[10:38] <telive> of course
[10:38] <BlouBlou> jefinc: well, it depends, if you use ubuntu LTS for servers bla bla.... you should wait to 10.04
[10:38] <posix> i'm having problems playing video on karmic using totem
[10:38] <AJH101> all: Hello - I have a very old laptop I would like to try Ubuntu on. What version would run on a ^$MB RAM machine please?
[10:38] <Ublondie> question re upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10  ....I'm assuming upgrade will not change ext3 file system to ext4?
[10:38] <erUSUL> posix: install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[10:38] <posix> also problems with videos in firefox (youtube etc)
[10:38] <danielle> jefinc just after you do run this command "sudo alsa force-reload"
[10:38] <jefinc> regular desktop usage
[10:38] <erUSUL> Ublondie: no it will not afaik
[10:38] <chazco> What is the best solution for the totem regression (ie, loss of totem-xine, so loss of dvb and quite a few video formats) in 9.10?
[10:38] <jimbeam12> hey all
[10:38] <BlouBlou> Ublondie: no, you need change it manually
[10:38] <Slart> AJH101: ^$MB RAM?
[10:38] <posix> erUSUL: I did, they play but then videos freeze after a few minutes
[10:38] <Ublondie> thanks erUSUL
[10:39] <Ublondie> is it best to run with ext4?
[10:39] <erUSUL> chazco: install proper xine-ui :)
[10:39] <meatbun> http://art.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1304802  <--- that is this guy saying about md5sum -c md5sum.txt
[10:39] <meatbun> it does't work. i am not doing it right
[10:39] <BlouBlou> Ublondie: or reinstall ubuntu 9.10 formatting with ext4
[10:39] <barcara> help: I want to kill pulseaudio, and never, ever have it start again
[10:39] <meatbun> http://art.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1304802  <--- WHAT IS this guy saying about md5sum -c md5sum.txt
[10:39] <posix> the problem with flash is that sometimes youtube controls (play pause and other buttons) work and sometimes they don't
[10:39] <danielle> Ublondie only if your fresh installing buf i think resizerfs is faster :P
[10:39] <Dr_Willis> meatbun:  thats one way you can check the md5sum of a file.
[10:39] <ubuntistas> i did a gnome-shell --replace how can i go to default now?
[10:39] <chazco> erUSUL - Thought another player would be likely... seems a pity since before everything worked great all in one
[10:40] <erUSUL> meatbun: what error you get? the iso has to be in the same folder as md5sum.txt and in the same as you are with the shell
[10:40] <Slart> Is there an alternative filesystem recommended for SSDs? or just use plain ext3/4 ?
[10:40] <BlouBlou> barcara: killall pulseaudo, and unistall it with sudo apt-get purge pulseaudio
[10:40] <ElVinz> bonjour tout le monde !
[10:40] <Dr_Willis> meatbun:  md5sum filetocheck and compare the # it makes with the # in the md5sum file thats suppiled.
[10:40] <meatbun> md5sum: WARNING: 57 of 57 listed files could not be read
[10:40] <Ramblurr> is there a way to downgrade the version of gdb to 6.8, the 7.0 version that comes with karmic isn't supported by my dev env
[10:40] <Slart> !fr | ElVinz
[10:40] <danielle> posix update to flash 10
[10:40] <posix> uh this channel is busy, irc is not what it used to be...
[10:40] <mathew> how do I enable my laptop speakers?
[10:40] <jrib> meatbun: he just gives the command to check the iso once you have downloaded the file containing the md5sums...
[10:40] <ElVinz> ooops sorry
[10:40] <Ublondie> ok ....I have separate partitions for core install, swap and for /root ....is that recommended/not recommended or even not necessary?
[10:40] <posix> danielle: I did, downloaded from adobe web site...still sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't...
[10:40] <Ublondie> ...sorry for wrong terminology
[10:40] <ElVinz> Hi everybody ! (just woke up !)
[10:40] <Dr_Willis> meatbun:  you are either in the wrokg directory, or someting is missnamed
[10:40] <barcara> BlouBlou: I thought i did that - but it keeps showing up.... thanks
[10:40] <Slart> mathew: depends on what kind of laptop, what kind of ubuntu version and so on.. we need details
[10:40] <Pedric> Back in Jaunty, it was possible to enable surround sound on PulseAudio and an Audigy2 using the default-sample-channels entry in /etc/pulse/daemon.conf - now you need to select a hardware profile (analogue stereo, analogue 7.1 output etc.) in the GUI - however, if I choose anything other than Stereo Out for my Audigy2 there, it does missing from the Output devices tab - regardless of the daemon.conf entry... Does anyone know a solution t
[10:40] <danielle> posix agreede
[10:40] <ubuntistas> i did a gnome-shell --replace how can i go to default now?
[10:41] <BlouBlou> barcara: sudo apt-get autoremove pulseaudio (try it)
[10:41] <erUSUL> chazco: well gstreamer is the future did you miss the memo ;). seriously really dunno, probably they thought totem was mature enough... totem xine was allway a hack
[10:41] <danielle> people for got to use google i say lazyness
[10:41] <barcara> BlouBlou: thanks
[10:41] <mathew> Slart, Acer AMD 64, Jaunty, I have the sound in headphones, but not in laptop speaker
[10:41] <posix> danielle: hehe, not that I haven't I've searched all over the place, still nothing on video and flash problems
[10:41] <ext4_doubt> hi, i am running ubuntu 9.04 and have the following partitions : / (ext3)   /usr (ext3)   /var (ext3)  /home (ext3)   and swap. I plan to do to a FRESH installation of Karmic. my /home partition's size is 130 gig . Since i do not have the means to back up my home partition, shall i keep as ext3 or will perhaps the ubuntu installer migrate it to ext4 WITHOUT losing any data?
[10:41] <Slart> Ublondie: I would say recommended would be separate root, home and perhaps swap.. but for a simple home desktop machine it's not necessary
[10:41] <jimbeam12> does anyone know what this means.......Could not update ICEauthority file /home/jimbeam12/.ICEauthority
[10:42] <meatbun> guy, i mounted the IOS, copied the md5sum.txt out and i use the command "md5sum -c md5sum", thta guy said i have to mount it first
[10:42] <posix> danielle: not sure if you've seen my video problems (totem) but it plays ok for a minute or two and then starts freezing
[10:42] <meatbun> guys
[10:42] <chazco> erUSUL - Is it possible to remove totem and gstreamer altogether then i wonder, could use the space if i'm installing other players...
[10:42] <Slart> mathew: check the volume settings.. there might be a separate slider for the speakers
[10:42] <simh> hi everyone
[10:42] <posix> danielle: tried with vlc as well but it's even worse
[10:42] <jrib> meatbun: you don't have to mount it.
[10:42] <Slart> jimbeam12: been running gui apps with sudo?
[10:42] <simh> i have a problem installing ubuntu 8.04 server
[10:42] <ubuntistas> i did a gnome-shell --replace how can i go to default now?
[10:42] <SingAlong> hi all
[10:42] <mathew> Slart: I see only one slider
[10:42] <BlouBlou> !ask | simh
[10:42] <Ublondie> thanks Slart ...I do like the idea of separate partition. ...I am on laptop and do quite a bit of work on it re web developing etc.
[10:42] <jimbeam12> hmm dont know
[10:43] <jimbeam12> maybe
[10:43] <an0therb0x> new user question ... i download virtualbox-3.0_3.0.8-53138_Ubuntu_jaunty_i386.deb and i have version 2 already install , how do i upgrade packages in ubuntu ?
[10:43] <mathew> Slart: I enabled the headphone sound using alsamixer, I do nto see an option for speakers there
[10:43] <simh> the installer does not find a module for my hdd and therefore it oesnt see any HDD so i cant install :)
[10:43] <MiraiWarren0_0> ubuntu: if you need sound now, try removing pulseaudio.  besides that, there is probably a problem with detecting your audio card. that's all I can say.
[10:43] <SingAlong> How do i change the list of options i get for desktop environments while logging in?
[10:43] <jimbeam12> i just installed ubuntu 9.10 not too long ago and did the updates
[10:43] <Slart> Ublondie: the separate home partition is mostly so you can reinstall without backing up your home folder..
[10:43] <ElVinz> i am doing computations on my computer, and need to get the amoutn of free memory on a periodic basic when I launch one. However, the command 'free' count cached memory as used memory, and, it seems that cached memory is freed before memory is filled enough to go to swap. Is there a command to get the 'real' free memory left before swapping ?
[10:43] <vashitn> hey i saw powerpc version of 9.10 last week but i lost the link does anyone could give it to me :)
[10:43] <Slart> mathew: then I don't know
[10:43] <simh> BlouBlou: ubottu sure thing :)
[10:43] <BlouBlou> an0therb0x: if you have got old version, with new .deb packet it will update automatically
[10:43] <meatbun> jrib, ok, but that guy's way, he said to mount it first
[10:44] <static_> Has anyone gotten Ubuntu 9.10 to work with a dual boot with Windows 7?
[10:44] <Slart> ElVinz: I think there is a different column in free for the actual free memory
[10:44] <jrib> meatbun: and I'm telling you that that is not necessary...
[10:44] <Slart> static_: yes
[10:44] <Ublondie> Slart: thanks. That's what I understood it to be. Have already done it and was happy that I had separate partition.
[10:44] <AJH101> hello all
[10:44] <chazco> static_ - Yep, working fine here :)
[10:44] <AJH101> what version runs on a 64MB RAM laptop?!
[10:44] <ubuntistas> i did a gnome-shell --replace how can i go to default now?
[10:44] <jrib> !verify | meatbun
[10:44] <barcara> AJH101: hi
[10:44] <ubuntistas> i did a gnome-shell --replace how can i go to default now?
[10:44] <SingAlong> anyone?
[10:44] <vashitn> !powerpc
[10:45] <static_> any suggestions, I install windows 7 32bit, it works fine, I leave unallocated space for ubuntu and install ubuntu to that space and afterwards windows 7 BSODs with a chkdsk /r error, can't get chkdsk to run on it either of course...
[10:45] <Slart> AJH101: try xubuntu or perhaps DSL or puppylinux..or running without X at all
[10:45] <AJH101> or do you know where I could find the answer?!
[10:45] <MiraiWarren0_0> ubuntistas: default what?
[10:45] <meatbun> jrib, i am interesting doing it the another way beside "md5sum ubun.iso > result" then "diff result REAL_Digest"
[10:45] <fgt> !compiler
[10:45] <jrib> meatbun: ok, so run md5sum -c FILE_CONTAINING_MD5SUMS ...
[10:45] <meatbun> jrib, how to utilize the md5sum.txt already contained in the ISO?
[10:45] <BlouBlou> AJH101: lubuntu
[10:46] <jrib> meatbun: see my last
[10:46] <an0therb0x> BlouBlou: i am getting an error "virtualbox-3.0 conflicts with virtualbox virtualbox-2.2 provides virtualbox and is present and installed"
[10:46] <jrib> meatbun: wait, IN the iso?  Just use the "check cd for defects" option when you boot the iso then
[10:46] <ubuntistas> default gnome not 3 as i have now miraiwarren0_0
[10:46] <epinky> AJH101: Ubuntu with Fluxbox
[10:46] <Ublondie> will an updated Ubuntu 9.04 to 9.10 be in any way 'bloated' or 'not quite' a full 9.10 install?  ....my thought is that it's best to start with freshly formatted drives/partitions. If I format /root and /swap, can I still leave my /home partition untouched from 9.04 (obviously leaving it with ext3 partition)?
[10:46] <BlouBlou> an0therb0x: sudo apt-get purge virtualbox   | sudo apt-get autoremove virtualbox    | and then install .deb
[10:46] <phixxor> help! my computer no longer boots into ubuntu after upgrade (screen flashes at text login prompt, can't log in) could someone help me troubleshoot this broken install?
[10:47] <meatbun> jrib, what? do you mean "md5sum -c ubuntu.iso" ?
[10:47] <meatbun> jrib, cause file containing the md5sum is the ISO
[10:47] <ripedar> Hello. I have problem with sound after update. It's working but at very poor quality. I had this problem before on 8.10 but i can't remember how i solved it before. I was searching the forums but can't find something. Can someone help me? Thanks. PM me if you can
[10:47] <ubuntistas> i did a gnome-shell --replace how can i go to default now?
[10:47] <woddf2> Hello
[10:48] <meatbun> jrib, no i don't want to check for defect after cd is burnt. too late
[10:48] <ubuntistas> i did a gnome-shell --replace for gnome 3 how can i go to default now?
[10:48] <Dr_Willis> meatbun:  you are calculatiing the sum OF the iso file. the md5sum file was a second file you downloaded.
[10:48] <natschil> Is it possible to avoid having to download several package files twice when doing a upgrade on two computers by using one as,for example a server?
[10:48] <woddf2> I did a fresh install of Karmic. How do I add Windows XP to the GRUB2 menu?
[10:48] <SingAlong> How do i change the list of options i get for desktop environments while logging in?
[10:48] <phixxor> can someone walk me through the boo recovery mode to help me fix the broken update?
[10:48] <Dr_Willis> natschil:  install the apt-cacher-ng server on one box and let the other box use the cache-server is one way
[10:48] <Joric> 9.10 is soo screwed - can't initialise proper mode on a common agp cart the whole ubuntu is so screwed
[10:48] <jhotta> #ploneconf2009
[10:48] <natschil> Dr_Willis: thanks
[10:48] <Ublondie> is it considered rude to re-post a question?
[10:48] <jrib> meatbun: look.  There are two things you can do: 1) Just use the "check the CD for defects" option when you actually boot the cd.  Or 2) Download the MD5SUMS file from one of the mirrors (e.g. releases.ubuntu.com) to the same directory containing the .iso and then run the command « md5sum -c MD5SUMS »
[10:48] <Dr_Willis> natschil:  im using that on my home lan of 4 pc's
[10:48] <jrib> Ublondie: wait about 10 minutes
[10:49] <SmokeyD> hey people. Where do I set my UbuntuOne account settings?
[10:49] <Ublondie> sure
[10:49] <phixxor> !grub2 | woddf2
[10:49] <ubuntistas> i did a gnome-shell --replace for gnome 3 how can i go to default now?
[10:49] <ace> the qt settings in vlc installation is removed in karmic?
[10:49] <SmokeyD> I have an account, but don't know where to enter the settings
[10:49] <jhotta> #ploneconf2009
[10:49] <user__> hi
[10:49] <meatbun> Dr_Willis, i am trying to do an md5sum using the md5sum.txt file inside the ubuntu.iso. that md5sum.txt list a bunch of hashes, like 50 of them
[10:49] <barcara> BlouBlou: thanks again
[10:49] <SmokeyD> I have the applet in the notification area but when I click "connect" nothing happens
[10:49] <BlouBlou> barcara: no problem :)
[10:49] <goodnight> any news about ext4 bug?
[10:49] <phixxor> could someone help me recover my broken system?
[10:49] <Dr_Willis> meatbun:  thats the sums of the files on the cd.. not the sum of the cd - i imagine.
[10:50] <ripedar> Hello. I have problem with sound after update. It's working but at very poor quality. I had this problem before on 8.10 but i can't remember how i solved it before. I was searching the forums but can't find something. Can someone help me? Thanks. PM me if you can
[10:50] <simh> is it possible to downgrade completly from 9.04 to 8.04? I need 8.04 but it has problems detecting my hdd during the installation
[10:50] <BlouBlou> ripedar: I have this problem too :(
[10:50] <Slart> !downgrade
[10:50] <ys___> SmokeyD, applications » accesories » passwords and keys
[10:50] <Dr_Willis> simh:  not really.
[10:50] <_newbie_> hi. I am on karmic, and I don't know how to stop iptables. /etc/init.d/iptables stop doesn't work. Help!!
[10:50] <eshat> Hi all,... i would like to use emacs as a reader instead of less, because of the syntax highlighting, but is there a paramater to to open a file readonly,  so that I don't change something by mistake ?
[10:50] <ace> please help.My vlc installation in xubuntu 9.10 looks very ugly.
[10:50] <ys___> ripedar, follow this http://drowninginbugs.blogspot.com/2009/10/caveats-for-audio-in-910.html
[10:50] <meatbun> Dr_Willis, yes, correct
[10:50] <BlouBlou> _newbie_: sudo ufw disable
[10:50] <macrobat> ripedar, maybe pkill pulseaudio
[10:51] <ys___> maybe not, it will respawn :P
[10:51] <_newbie_> BlouBlou: ufw is not installed
[10:51] <Ublondie> Ace: I have read previously today that VLC shouldn't be necessary.... I'm normally a VLC fan too
[10:51] <SmokeyD> ys___: no that is not what I mean
[10:51] <BlouBlou> _newbie_: firestarter?
[10:51] <simh> so how can I install 8.04 lts if it doesnt detect my hdd?
[10:51] <natschil> Ublondie: Though installing a fresh release every time there is one might be the best option performance wise, it is often more practical to upgrade, and I doubt that there are many performance issues when upgrading.
[10:51] <_newbie_> neither
[10:51] <SingAlong> anyone using the new Ubuntu 9.10? Hows the experience? I have a lot of problems with it on my netbook.
[10:51] <BlouBlou> !iptables | _newbie_
[10:51] <SmokeyD> how do I connect to ubuntuone. The giude on http://unixlab.blogspot.com/2009/10/ubuntu-one-on-karmic-koala.html tells me that when the browser launches and I login to ubuntoone, it should ask me if I want this computer to be added
[10:52] <SmokeyD> but it doesn't ask me
[10:52] <SingAlong> >	i switch from power supply to battery power and the netbook suspends. i get the screen to full brightness and it suspends again and resets the brightness to 50%
[10:52] <H2O> 9.10 rocks.......... big time
[10:52] <H2O> i have no problemos
[10:52] <BlouBlou> !ot | H2O
[10:52] <ys___> SmokeyD, then check where i tell you to see if there's some ubuntu one thing already, and delete it, then try again
[10:52] <phixxor> could someone help me recover a system broken by the upgrade? I can't log in anymore
[10:52] <Lat> all: new user question     Who installed ubuntu on asus f5r. What problems?
[10:52] <_newbie_> guarddog is stop, but iptables -L give me active rules. It's unbelivable
[10:53] <ys___> phixxor, can you start in recovery mode?
[10:53] <DJJeff> how do I do a CRC check on a ubuntu 9.10.iso file ?
[10:53] <ys___> DJJeff, crc32 file.iso
[10:53] <H2O> ubottu sorry may bad ..
[10:53] <phixxor> ys___: kind of, but things are screwed up there as well -- the screen sometimes doesn't refresh so it's hard to see what's going on
[10:53] <BlouBlou> H2O: ubottu is a bot
[10:53] <Jaycob> whats the easiest way to reset ubuntu and delete all personal data?
[10:53] <SmokeyD> ys___: it's not there.
[10:53] <H2O> lol ok
[10:53] <woddf2> http://paste.ubuntu.com/305778/ This does not appear to work...
[10:53] <BlouBlou> !bot > H2O
[10:54] <ys___> phixxor, using nvidia driver?
[10:54] <woddf2> When I select the option, I see a blinking cursor...
[10:54] <Ublondie> natschil: thanks. I'm not so concerned about 'most practical' (I have separate partitions). Just after best option. If upgrade is not much different, then that will be fine for now.
[10:54] <phixxor> ys___: yes, I believe so
[10:54] <ys___> SmokeyD, i don't know then :(
[10:54] <H2O> how come the boot still speaking to me ..
[10:54] <ys___> phixxor, you installed the drivers from the nvidia installer, right?
[10:54] <H2O> ubottu i did and im sorry ..
[10:54] <phixxor> ys___: from jockey, in 9.04
[10:54] <hellyes> when I share a folder with a windows machine, I can see the folder on the windows network, but when I click to open it, it keeps saying I don't have permission even though I unchecked "read only".  Can someone help me?
[10:54] <H2O> lool
[10:55] <Yaya> Hello flks
[10:55] <ys___> phixxor, weird.... well... run from a live cd, mount your partition and remove the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file, then try to boot again
[10:55] <ubuntistas> i did a gnome-shell --replace for gnome 3 how can i go to default now?
[10:55] <eshat> Is theres a "less" like program, that has syntax highlighting ?
[10:55] <ubuntistas> i did a gnome-shell --replace for gnome 3 how can i go to default now?
[10:55] <Jaycob> how to reinstall ubuntu?
[10:55] <ubuntistas> i did a gnome-shell --replace for gnome 3 how can i go to default now?
[10:55] <FloodBot2> ubuntistas: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:55] <Ublondie> To everyone who has a hand in developing Ubuntu and for those helping in the chatrooms  ....thank you and congrats to all of you. It is sensational!!
[10:55] <ys___> phixxor, i mean the xorg.conf file inside there
[10:55] <athlan> would you guys recommend to use ext4? is it save to use now? or still buggy?
[10:55] <Yaya> everyone enjoying 9.10? :)
[10:55] <ubuntistas> i did a gnome-shell --replace for gnome 3 how can i go to default now?
[10:56] <dariuzas> how to exit the X server ?
[10:56] <phixxor> ys___: alright -- it also said the upgrade failed and I might be left with a broken system -- something about not being able to upgrade flashplugin-nonfree
[10:56] <cheery> hi, trying ubuntu karmic, though my mouse is not working properly
[10:56] <natschil> athlan: I've used ext4 since jaunty and haven't had any issues with it.
[10:56] <BlouBlou> ubuntistas: please stop
[10:56] <phixxor> ys___: do I need to run a partial upgrade too?
[10:56] <BlouBlou> ubuntistas: ask one time, don't flood with your question
[10:56] <Yaya> whats the diff between ext3 and ext4?
[10:56] <H2O> hangover  no good
[10:56] <dariuzas> how to exit the X server (ubuntu 9.10 for nvidia driver instalation)?
[10:56] <BlouBlou> !ext4 | Yaya
[10:56] <ys___> phixxor, just flashplugin-nonfree? shouldn't be an issue
[10:57] <athlan> Yaya ext 4 isaid to be faster...
[10:57] <cheery> when I move my mouse, after a while it moves to a point on the screen and stays there until I move it again
[10:57] <BlouBlou> Yaya: ext is faster saving/loading files
[10:57] <BlouBlou> ext4*
[10:57] <cheery> anyone has this before? anyone knows what it is?
[10:57] <ys___> cheery, ati?
[10:57] <Yaya> I see...
[10:57] <phixxor> ys___: there may have been more... that's just the one I remember
[10:57] <woddf2> To be safe, I used ext3 instead...
[10:57] <Dr_Willis> dariuzas:  you have tried installing the Nvidia driver by the settints->admin-Hardware drivers tool first?  instad of trying the nvidia.com drivers package?
[10:57] <nicklas_> http://www.dumpt.com/img/viewer.php?file=a35269uvx8dk5e1s2n0u.png
[10:57] <cheery> vs___ you mean this'd may be graphics card trouble?
[10:58] <hellyes> phixxor: can you help me with networking my ubuntu machine with my windows XP machine? in ubuntu: I share a certain folder and uncheck "read only". I can then see it on the network from my XP machine, but when I try to open it, it says I do not have permission.  Can you help?
[10:58] <cheery> I have nvidia card
[10:58] <Yaya> Well, i just spent the whole night upgrading! hopefully its worth it!
[10:58] <ys___> phixxor, perhaps the other are more important... well... do you know how to chroot?
[10:58] <dariuzas> Dr_Willis: yes it works but i hawe newer version
[10:58] <jordan_> I can't access to user management in configuration system because my password is wrong it says, but i'm log in in ubuntu , so I can't understand  : root password and user password (I installed myself ubuntu) are not same ? This is the only password i created during the installation. Does someone can help me ?
[10:58] <phixxor> ys___: I can do it using a tutorial or following instructions :P
[10:58] <Dr_Willis> dariuzas:  using the ones from nvidia.com can.. break things..
[10:58] <Copywriter> !flash
[10:58] <simh> can any1 help with installation of 8.04 lts when the installer doesn't detect my hdd?
[10:59] <woddf2> http://paste.ubuntu.com/305778/ This does not appear to work...
[10:59] <woddf2> When I select the option, I see a blinking cursor...
[10:59] <Dr_Willis> dariuzas:  'sudo service gdm stop'  - can stop gdm service
[10:59] <BlouBlou> simh: try ubuntu 9.04, or wait to 10.04 lts
[10:59] <phixxor> hellyes: I didn't really want to answer because windows shares can work differently for different people, but try asking ubottu for help with samba
[10:59] <Copywriter> guys i can't seem to get flash working on karmic even when using the restricted extras
[10:59] <BlouBlou> simh: try 9.10, sorry
[10:59] <phixxor> !samba > hellyes
[10:59] <ys___> phixxor, i know this is from gentoo but it applies to ubuntu too http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Chroot_from_a_livecd
[10:59] <SmokeyD> argh, UbuntuOne doesn't ask me if I want to add this computer to my UbuntuOne account
[10:59] <simh> BlouBlou: i need 8.04 lts. i need a system that is 100% supported by vmware
[10:59] <ys___> phixxor, please make surte the live cd is 64 bits if you're running a 64 bits system
[10:59] <Yaya> Anyone ever tried to upgrade from 8.04 to 9.10 in one night?
[10:59] <athlan> would you guys recommend to use ext4? is it save to use now? or still buggy? has anyone noticed advantages, disadvantages in desktop use?
[11:00] <ys___> phixxor, then, from a chrooted environment, you can use apt to check the status of the upgrade
[11:00] <SmokeyD> the giude says that when I login to UbuntuOne through the applet, ubuntuone should ask this, but it doesn't
[11:00] <BlouBlou> simh: wich hdd have you got?
[11:00] <ys___> SmokeyD, ensure ubuntuone is upgraded
[11:00] <Yaya> How big is the improvement with intel chipsets?
[11:00] <simh> BlouBlou: i have samsung f1 raid edition. 2x 1tb
[11:00] <SmokeyD> ys___: I just updated everything to the most recent karmic version
[11:00] <phixxor> ys___: alright, I can give it a try
[11:01] <xaxxon> is there an apt-get to just install a aton of crap?  like.. the top 100 packages or something?
[11:01] <ys___> phixxor, you know the apt basics right?
[11:01] <phixxor> ys___: I think I'll try deleting xorg.conf first though and seeing what happens :P
[11:01] <ys___> phixxor, yes, maybe that's better
[11:01] <boscop> how do I know which graphics driver I need?
[11:01] <phixxor> ys___: apt-get install -f fixes things, apt-get -d upgrade does distro upgrade
[11:01] <Yaya> ! ask anyone know how big the improvement with the intel chipsets is?
[11:01] <BlouBlou> simh: do another ubuntu versions detects it?
[11:01] <boscop> VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07)
[11:02] <hellyes> !samba
[11:02] <H2O> falsh free site    http://www.dailymotion.com/en
[11:02] <ys___> SmokeyD, kill al the ubuntuone related stuff, please ensure there are no keys stored, remove cache, sessions and close the browser
[11:02] <Jesi> Broken pipe: Overrun occurred. in recordmydesktop, what does it mean?
[11:02] <ys___> SmokeyD, then start ubuntuone from the menu and try again
[11:02] <simh> BlouBlou: yupp. currently i have 9.04 there installed. but its not supported by vmware server 2
[11:02] <natrixnatrix89> I'm trying to install madwifi, but I get this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/305780/
[11:02] <phixxor> ys___: btw, this kind of sounds like my bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/464591
[11:03] <Yaya> Anyone getting a lot of software crashes? I have reported atleast 3 since the update finished about an hour ago
[11:03] <BlouBlou> simh: and.. does ubuntu 8.04 fails when you try to install? any error? or just it says you haven't got any hdd?
[11:03] <ys___> phixxor, well... that's ok, you should try dist-upgrade first, then update and dist-upgrade, then -f if something goes wrong
[11:03] <meatbun> jrib,  md5sum -c MD5SUMS   i am doing this command, but it looks like it's hanging. last time i do a calculation took lik3 20 seconds. but now it's been 1 minute
[11:03] <meatbun> jrib, never mind. just finished
[11:04] <pshr_> I am unable to update to karmic it says .. unable to find release notes the server might be busy
[11:04] <Copywriter> mozilla-plugin-gnash i got it :) installed the plugins
[11:04] <Yaya> phr
[11:04] <Jesi> Broken pipe: Overrun occurred. in recordmydesktop, what does it mean? <---- also, I added the gui frontend but have no idea how to start it
[11:04] <Yaya> psh*
[11:04] <BlouBlou> pshr_: change server
[11:04] <simh> BlouBlou: "no hdd detected. if you know the name of the driver, you can choose it from the list" and a list. i need ata_piix but there is no such thing on the list
[11:04] <SmokeyD> ys___: that worked, thanks
[11:04] <phixxor> ys___: gotcha. man dist-upgrade is the first thing I'm doing after chroot
[11:04] <ys___> phixxor, that's a problem with the nvidia driver and some configurations (i've only seen them from the nvidia installer until now, though)
[11:04] <Yaya> Go System>Admin>software sources>select main server
[11:05] <BlouBlou> Yaya: use "user:" before message please ;)
[11:05] <ext4_doubt> on a FRESH install would there be a problem if i migrate /  /usr  /var  to ext4 but keep /home as ext3  ?
[11:05] <ys___> phixxor, definitely, don't do that... comment the loadmodule glx line, and change driver nvidia to driver nv
[11:05] <Yaya> Sorry, that was for psh
[11:05] <ys___> phixxor,  on the xorg.conf i mean
[11:05] <meatbun> jrib, that guy from the forum confused me telling me to mount it. i thought it's good to learn a 2nd way to check.
[11:05] <jrib> meatbun: k
[11:05] <phixxor> ys___: oh, sorry. just changing nvidia back to nv then
[11:05] <dariuzas> IT WORKS THANX :D
[11:06] <ys___> phixxor, don't even delete it, yes, that will make it start again, i think, just try
[11:06] <phixxor> ys___: be back in a few minutes
[11:06] <natrixnatrix89> at least. is there a way to downgrade to Jaunty?
[11:06] <mrwes> natrixnatrix89, NO
[11:06] <jrib> !downgrade | natrixnatrix89
[11:06] <Animagladius> Hi.
[11:06] <bazhang> natrixnatrix89, full reinstall
[11:07] <Yaya> Hehehe i <3 ubuntu
[11:07] <Yaya> Good bye folks
[11:07] <joep> Hi, Is everybody upgrading today? as my download connection is ridiculously slow.
[11:07] <BlouBlou> natrixnatrix89: we don't recomment it
[11:07] <natrixnatrix89> mrwes: but why does not madwi work anymore?
[11:07] <BlouBlou> Yaya: bye :)
[11:07] <jrib> natrixnatrix89: never used madwifi but I'm pretty sure you haven't had to compile it for a while
[11:07] <Yaya> joep: System>Admin> software source>main server. i went from downloading 20~ kb to 900kb+
[11:07] <jrib> !wifi > natrixnatrix89
[11:07] <mrwes> natrixnatrix89, no idea, I don't use it
[11:08] <MasterJimmy> hey, quick queztion. i has long listy of apps my friend installed that he put on my pastebin for me. um...how do i save those to a file and have them installed allat once? here's the list: http://psinetic.pastebin.com/m4bcd4990
[11:08] <joep> Yaya: Thanks. I'll try that.
[11:08] <Yaya> No problemo :)
[11:08] <pshr_> after i press upgrade the update manager stops responding.. what is this ?
[11:08] <meatbun> when i use gnome's auto mount iso, file browser opens, where is it mounted? i want to cd into it via command line
[11:08] <mrwes> MasterJimmy, have your friend run this command: sudo dpkg --get-selections > installed.software
[11:08] <meatbun> i don't see it in /media or /mnt
[11:09] <jrib> mrwes: I think that's what he pastebinned
[11:09] <pshr_> New dist available 9.10 but cant upgrade
[11:09] <mrwes> MasterJimmy, and then give you a copy of the installed.software file -- it's text only
[11:09] <mrwes> MasterJimmy, then on your end run: dpkg --set-selections < installed.software
[11:09] <mrwes> jrib, I didn't look at it :)
[11:09] <MasterJimmy> mrwes, thanks :)
[11:09] <simh> BlouBlou: do you know, is there maybe other channel i can ask for help? i see here are mostly 'desktop questions' :)
[11:10] <pshr_> why ? is this happening.. why can't i upgrade
[11:10] <BlouBlou> simh: private
[11:10] <joep> Yaya: Do I have to stop upgrading first?
[11:11] <O__o> hi just one question, i just downloaded the img from ubuntu.com.  Is it the official release of 9.10 ??
[11:11] <mrwes> 0__o: hrmm...yah
[11:11] <bazhang> O__o, the iso ? yes
[11:11] <mrwes> you check the MD5sum on it?
[11:12] <CliffS> Last time when I upgraded to 9.04 it all broke on the FGLRX drivers not being ready.  Am I going to hit the same problem this time around?
[11:12] <O__o> i didnt check the checksum
[11:12] <O__o> i just burn it to a cd
[11:12] <mrwes> 0__o: why wouldn't be official if  you downloaded it from www.ubuntu.com ?
[11:12] <ViaNocturn85> hey, anyone able to help me with bursts of energy internet?
[11:12] <O__o> i mean i dont know if it is still beta or not
[11:12] <mrwes> sigh
[11:13] <AJH101> what is the difference btwn lubuntu and you-lite?
[11:13] <bazhang> ViaNocturn85, please re-phrase
[11:13] <Dr_Willis> O__o:  what was the complete file name?
[11:13] <erUSUL> !final > O__o
[11:13] <meatbun> jrib, u know what.  it does work.  i also can mount iso first then do md5sum. i suppose this way it only checks the important installation files (only 57 files) but not the entire CD.
[11:13] <ViaNocturn85> haha, I can't describe better
[11:13] <ViaNocturn85> ok
[11:13] <hellyes> phixxor: is it possible yet to network an ubuntu machine w/ a windows 7 machine? I can network XP, but using the same steps I still can't manage to share w/ win 7
[11:13] <jrib> meatbun: k
[11:13] <O__o> Dr_Willis, ubuntu-9.10-desktop-i386.iso
[11:13] <Jesi> Broken pipe: Overrun occurred. in recordmydesktop, what does it mean? <---- also, I added the gui frontend but have no idea how to start it
[11:13] <ViaNocturn85> basically my internet is great one minute and ridiculously slow the next
[11:14] <ext4_doubt> on a FRESH install would there be a problem if i format  /    /usr    /var  as  ext4   but have  /home as ext3? has anyone here done that and did not suffer any performance problems or stability issues?
[11:14] <BlouBlou> O__o: it0s seems final release
[11:14] <Dr_Willis> hellyes:  networking and 'getting samba/network neighborhood' are related. ;) but different. i had no issuesx with windows7 beta and my ubuntu box's
[11:14] <ViaNocturn85> its just took me 1/2 hour to send an email with a 52kb attachment!
[11:14] <erUSUL> ext4_doubt: no problem what so ever.
[11:14] <SwedeMike> ext4_doubt: you can have any fs on any partition, doesn't really matter.
[11:14] <BlouBlou> O__o: it hasn't got "RC" or "beta" in file name, so... I think it's final
[11:14] <AJH101> what is the difference btwn lubuntu and u-lite?
[11:14] <erUSUL> any unix fs*
[11:14] <Dr_Willis> hellyes:    thers proberly some samba guides out there updated for win7  you may want to track down
[11:15] <Dr_Willis> AJH101:  lubuntu = lxde desktop. No idea on u-lite - check its homepage
[11:15] <meatbun> jrib, it's nice to know another way. but u don't sound excited...
[11:15] <babak> hi
[11:15] <hellyes> Dr_Willis: thanx!
[11:15] <jrib> meatbun: no, because checking the md5sum of the .iso makes more sense
[11:15] <AJH101> Dr-Willis: ldxe? I am a newbie
[11:15] <MasterJimmy> mrwes, that command didn't actually install anything. it just went to the next line.
[11:15] <BlouBlou> AJH101: lubuntu uses lxce, another desktop, and ubuntu lite is not official, is ubuntu with much programms unistalled
[11:15] <epinky> AJH101: www.distrowatch.com
[11:15] <babak> where can i paste (upload). my errors in ubuntu?
[11:16] <Dr_Willis> AJH101:  another desktop. Stick with Ubuntu if you dont know what other things are.. or check them out via google.  Its just a light-desktop.
[11:16] <mrwes> MasterJimmy, sudo apt-get update
[11:16] <AJH101> I want to try it on a 64mb machine
[11:16] <meatbun> jrib, yes, it does. but sometime u don't have md5sum.  and have to go for a less desirable route
[11:16] <mrwes> MasterJimmy, sudo apt-get upgrade
[11:16] <ViaNocturn85> anyone able to help with internet that is either nice and fast or terribly slow?
[11:16] <erUSUL> !paste | babak
[11:16] <MasterJimmy> mrwes, neither of those installed anything
[11:16] <ntnroz_> can i get a link for a good known mIRC client plz
[11:17] <Dr_Willis> ntnroz_:  mirc is one of many IRC clients.. theres dozens of irc clients out there
[11:17] <mrwes> MasterJimmy, sudo dpkg --set-selections < installed.software :0
[11:17] <Dr_Willis> ntnroz_:  xchat is a common one used on ubuntu
[11:17] <erUSUL> ntnroz_: use x-chat
[11:17] <ntnroz_> thanks
[11:17] <BlouBlou> ViaNocturn85: this is usually your isp problem or ubuntu server's conection
[11:17] <ViaNocturn85> i use kvirc
[11:17] <MasterJimmy> ntnroz_: sudo apt-get install xchat
[11:17] <meatbun> jrib, my volunteer work place has all sort of stuff, no documentations. no nothing. so using the raw md5sum in the iso is last resort. though not safe...
[11:17] <mrwes> MasterJimmy, is the installed.software file located in your /home directory?
[11:17] <Dr_Willis> quassle on KDE/Kubuntu has some neat features also for an IRC client
[11:17] <babak> how can solve this problem?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/305789/
[11:17] <ViaNocturn85> but how is that possible when its been going brilliant up and till a week ago
[11:17] <ntnroz_> i got some link to bitchx.org, but there was nothing about the irc client there
[11:18] <MasterJimmy> mrwes, yes, in the desktop
[11:18] <natschil> ntnroz_: konversation is also quite nice, I prefer its interface to xchat.
[11:18] <ntnroz_> thanks all
[11:18] <ys___>  babak paste somewhere your /etc/apt/sources.list file
[11:18] <mrwes> MasterJimmy, sudo dpkg --set-selections < ~/Desktop/installed.software
[11:18] <Ublondie> thanks all ...ciao  :)
[11:18] <ziggy> any one here?
[11:18] <meatbun> jrib, like where am i going to find the digest for ubuntu 4.x? i ll have to assume the guy who first downloaded it. did it for .iso. and i am just redoing it for the a double check
[11:19] <joep> ViaNocturn85: I have the same problem. I have also chello as provider and I started upgrading jaunty and the connection is terribly slow. I think everyone is upgrading now.
[11:19] <MasterJimmy> mrwes: psinetic@psinetic-desktop:~/Desktop$ sudo dpkg --set-selections < ~/Desktop/installed.software
[11:19] <MasterJimmy> psinetic@psinetic-desktop:~/Desktop$
[11:19] <babak> ys___: http://paste.ubuntu.com/305792/
[11:19] <BlouBlou> !paste | MasterJimmy
[11:19] <MasterJimmy> BlouBlou, it was two lines for crying out loud. i have a three line rule, that wasn't three lines. ffs
[11:19] <mrwes> shrug...works for me all the time brutha
[11:19] <meatbun> jrib, i belive that's that the ubuntu cd does, at boot time, check for cd defects.
[11:19] <ViaNocturn85> oh no, dont get me wrong, the upgrade went nice and thats just it. I can be really fast on it, then the next moment its so slow it's unbelievable
[11:20] <mrwes> heh
[11:20] <ys___> babak remove the bad line breaks, all lines should start with "deb"
[11:20] <ViaNocturn85> I disabled the ipv6, that helped a little
[11:20] <ys___> babak, so the second line should end in restricted multiverse
[11:20] <fgt> ViaNocturn85; check your DNS
[11:20] <BlouBlou> MasterJimmy: all code or error lines should be pasted in pastebin
[11:20] <ys___> babak, the same for the next two lines
[11:20] <MasterJimmy> w/e
[11:20] <ziggy> is it normal to not have compiz fushion with dull screens ?
[11:20] <fgt> I had the same kind of issue, and it's not ipv6
[11:21] <fgt> that's just a myth
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> ziggy: if i had dual screen, i still wouldnt use compiz
[11:21] <ziggy> ok
[11:21] <BlouBlou> ziggy: it depends, it should works fine
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> ziggy: dull?
[11:21] <ViaNocturn85> what ya want me check on it exactly?
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> ziggy: or did you mean dual?
[11:21] <epinky> babak: what's on line 3 in /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:21] <ziggy> dual i'm a bad speller sorry
[11:21] <vashitn> any problems so far with 9.10
[11:22] <ntnroz_> i've just installed 9.10 now, the only problem i got so far is, that my built-in notebook mouse isn't respondind, my usb un-wired mouse, works fine
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> vashitn: not since alpha2
[11:22] <babak> ys___: is this ok?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/305795/
[11:22] <ntnroz_> responding
[11:22] <ys___> babak, no
[11:22] <ViaNocturn85> ok sounds kinda dumb, but how do i check the DNS
[11:22] <ys___> babak, no "deb", just deb
[11:22] <ys___> babak, i mean you must remove the extra line breaks you have there
[11:22] <joep> ViaNocturn85: I'm upgrading now and speed varies from 1Kb/s to 90 KB/s where I normally have up to 2 MB/s.
[11:23] <ziggy> could anyone explane to me what i should do with installing adobe flash for you tube its not working
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> !slow | joep
[11:23] <^Anonymous> SUP a_n_o_n_
[11:23] <^Anonymous> !!
[11:23] <a_n_o_n_> yo
[11:23] <a_n_o_n_> anonymous!
[11:23] <^Anonymous> Whats going on man
[11:23] <fgt> hey a_n_o_n_ want me to help you with that issue you've been having?
[11:23] <babak> ys___: is this ok?   http://paste.ubuntu.com/305797/
[11:24] <fgt> with lunix?
[11:24] <^Anonymous> hav't seen you in ages!!
[11:24] <a_n_o_n_> not really
[11:24] <ziggy> could anyone explane to me what i should do with installing adobe flash for you tube its not working
[11:24] <a_n_o_n_> i figured it out
[11:24] <a_n_o_n_> but thanks man
[11:24] <fgt> oh
[11:24] <BlouBlou> !ot ^Anonymous amd a_n_o_n_
[11:24] <resno> has anyone been able to get their laptop touchpad working?
[11:24] <a_n_o_n_> turns out suse is pretty easy to use :)
[11:24] <fgt> did you install open suse?
[11:24] <BlouBlou> !ot | ^Anonymous amd a_n_o_n_
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> ziggy: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[11:24] <a_n_o_n_> lolwut
[11:24] <ViaNocturn85> resno: mine worked out the box
[11:24] <a_n_o_n_> someone's a party pooper
[11:24] <ys___> babak, it's ok, but you can attach the extra words to the lines before them, not just remove them
[11:24] <ys___> babak, ill fix it, wait
[11:24] <ziggy> ty so much i'll go try it
[11:24] <resno> ViaNocturn85: clean install or upgrade?
[11:25] <ziggy> Action your the man dude
[11:25] <^Anonymous> whats going on here guyz
[11:25] <ziggy> :)
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> ^Anonymous: ubuntu support
[11:25] <a_n_o_n_> failbuntu*
[11:25] <a_n_o_n_> f'xd
[11:25] <ntnrozen> great, xchat looks cool
[11:25] <^Anonymous> Whats the internet guys?
[11:25] <cheery> heh, this time: http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/9062/hiirivika.jpg
[11:25] <ys___> babak, http://paste.ubuntu.com/305800/
[11:25] <^Anonymous> how to internet?
[11:25] <^Anonymous> anyone know?
[11:25] <babak> ys___: please fix this   http://paste.ubuntu.com/305799/
[11:25] <ntnrozen> did anyone besides me got a problem with his built in notebook mouse?
[11:26] <joep> ubottu: Yes I would like but how when the upgrade is downloading. Can I stop the process and change the main server ?
[11:26] <fgt> ^Anonymous; reboot your routers, the tubes might be clogged
[11:26] <born2live> hi i was wondering what is a better os to try windows 7 or ubuntu
[11:26] <resno> ntnrozen: you mean the touchpad?
[11:26] <^Anonymous> OH right
[11:26] <ViaNocturn85> mine was upgrade
[11:26] <a_n_o_n_> u need one of them there cornpewters, anonymoose
[11:26] <^Anonymous> THANKS MAN
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> ^Anonymous: can you expand please
[11:26] <^Anonymous> what do you mean?
[11:26] <Blank__> born2live, why are you asking here
[11:26] <yancho> anyone knows what is the plugins directory used by ubuntuzilla please?  problem is that NO plugins are found - and i would like to find the directory which they are in and soft link to /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/
[11:26] <Blank__> you know what answer you'll get
[11:26] <joep> Does anyone know how to change download mirror without interrupting the download process?
[11:26] <ziggy> i beta tested windows 7 its stable but driver support is always slow
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> ^Anonymous: "how do you internet" is a very badly worded question
[11:26] <ntnrozen> resno: yes, i think so, i got an hp
[11:27] <^Anonymous> I dont know man
[11:27] <born2live> ziggy is driver support better in ubuntu?
[11:27] <^Anonymous> what do I do to internet?
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> ^Anonymous: what do you mean
[11:27] <a_n_o_n_> anonymous
[11:27] <babak> ys___: thx
[11:27] <resno> ntnrozen: same problem here, seems  a big issue without many solutions. ive read the livecd works but upgrades it doesnt
[11:27] <a_n_o_n_> i think i know what your problem is
[11:27] <^Anonymous> how do I go to the internet?
[11:27] <a_n_o_n_> i think you accidentally the internet
[11:27] <^Anonymous> oh shit
[11:27] <BlouBlou> !repeat | ^Anonymous
[11:27] <^Anonymous> i may of
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> ^Anonymous: launch firefox, you will then be able to browse the web
[11:27] <a_n_o_n_> you didn't the whole thing did u?
[11:28] <^Anonymous> I think I accidentally my WHOLE internet
[11:28] <a_n_o_n_> OH SHI-
[11:28] <ziggy> i would say ubuntu was flakey about 3 years ago
[11:28] <cumulus007> I'm having problems with Flash on Ubuntu 9.10, 32 bit
[11:28] <cumulus007> Flash applets don't respond to user input
[11:28] <^Anonymous> What firefox?
[11:28] <vox> guys, surely you can find something better to do with your time
[11:28] <bazhang> !ot
[11:28] <^Anonymous> you guys set foxes on FIRE HERE?
[11:28] <resno> vox: my thoughts exactly
[11:28] <ziggy> it was mostly learning x server stuff like that manuly haveing to setup everything
[11:28] <cumulus007> ^Anonymous, 3.5 and google chrome from the ppa
[11:28] <bazhang> ^Anonymous, please stop
[11:28] <ViaNocturn85> hey question, you know i got internet oddities...well, i WAS messing with iptables firewall rules
[11:28] <dariuzas> how i can return to the desktop when i pree Ctrl+Alt+F1 ?
[11:29] <ViaNocturn85> could that have anything to do with it
[11:29] <resno> vox: thanks!
[11:29] <BlouBlou> vox++
[11:29] <^Anonymous> what happened
[11:29] <dariuzas> how i can return to the desktop when i press Ctrl+Alt+F1 ?
[11:29] <ViaNocturn85> startx?
[11:29] <bazhang> dariuzas, ctrl alt f7
[11:29] <fgt> Did you fix your problem with the internets ^Anonymous?
[11:29] <^Anonymous> not yet
[11:30] <ntnrozen> dar: cancel maybe?
[11:30] <ziggy> o i have another qustion i notice that ubuntu doesn't give you the option on downloading 2 things at the same time is there anyway around that
[11:30] <BlouBlou> dariuzas: cconts + alt + F7
[11:30] <dariuzas> bazhang: thanx
[11:30] <ViaNocturn85> ziggy: I know
[11:30] <dariuzas> ok
[11:30] <BlouBlou> cntr*
[11:30] <^Anonymous> does anyone here know how to internet?
[11:30] <vox> ^Anonymous: last warning
[11:30] <odder> hello people, I've got a nooby question: how do I remove the icons from the gnome main menu?
[11:30] <fgt> ^Anonymous; you might have to reboot the internet
[11:30] <^Anonymous> how to do that?
[11:30] <ViaNocturn85> if you have firefox, then go to addons and look for download acc...;-)
[11:31] <DukkaN> [odder]: lol
[11:31] <ViaNocturn85> it should automatically but its faster...or in my case...WAS
[11:31] <fgt> ^Anonymous; I think you have to call up Microsoft
[11:31] <ziggy> i thought linux was known for there abiltiy to do many things at once but i feel stuck at times like its not going to its fullest
[11:31] <^Anonymous> Oh ok
[11:31] <^Anonymous> whats their number?
[11:31] <fgt> ^Anonymous; idk lol
[11:31] <odder> DukkaN: yep, that's pretty nooby. I remember it was doable with one-click on 8.04 but forgot how to do that
[11:31] <born2live> i heard linux is slower than windows
[11:32] <bazhang> born2live, lets move chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:32] <siva> Need Help - upgraded from 9.04 to 9.10 yesterday night
[11:32] <Hylle> nah
[11:32] <ikonia> born2live: it can be - it can be faster but this channel is for support only,
[11:32] <ViaNocturn85> siva whats the problem?
[11:32] <resno> !ask | siva
[11:32] <born2live> how are you gonna move the whole chat just like that/
[11:32] <born2live> dont forget to tell me when the chat moves to offtopic, i'll go for sure
[11:32] <ikonia> born2live: you can join when ever you want
[11:32] <born2live> when the chat goes
[11:32] <born2live> ill move too
[11:33] <bazhang> born2live, /join #ubuntu-offtopic  ie stop chatting here
[11:33] <siva> after upgradation I am not able to install / remove any new application
[11:33] <siva> need help
[11:33] <BlouBlou> born2live: linux is just a kernel, go to #ubuntu-offtopic for discuss it
[11:33] <DukkaN> [odder]: =( sorry I am noob too
[11:33] <DukkaN> kkkkkkkkkk
[11:33] <born2live> wat this is a public channel
[11:33] <born2live> stfu
[11:33] <vox> aww beat me
[11:33] <ikonia> damn it
[11:33] <shredder12> Hello people, I have just installed ubuntu karmic and when i restarted my system after successful installation i found that grub didn't have any entry to boot into ubuntu, it has only 3 options (2 memory checks and 1 windows boot option)... how do i recover my installed system.??
[11:33] <ziggy> so whats a MUST GET ON UBUNTU ??? come on Share the knowledge
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> siva: can you use http://pastebin.com to give the output of: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[11:33] <ViaNocturn85> siva: have you tried the newUbuntu Software Centre?
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> ziggy: depends what you want to achieve
[11:34] <siva> yes sir I tried and did 7 upgrades
[11:34] <a_n_o_n_> http://p.defau.lt/
[11:34] <a_n_o_n_> imo
[11:34] <a_n_o_n_> cleaner than pastebin
[11:34] <ziggy> anything for visual basics ?
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> a_n_o_n_: i use pastebinit
[11:35] <shredder12> Hello people,, after installing karmic I found out that I couldn't boot into ubuntu because grub didn't have configuration scripts in /etc/grub.d/.. what should i do now??
[11:35]  * a_n_o_n_ shrugs
[11:35] <siva> but after one unsuccessful downloading I could not add / remove any old application
[11:35] <ziggy> ok lets go easy i can just use a vitural for that
[11:35] <joep> I request again: Do you know if I have to stop the downloadprocess before switching main server and what happens with upgrad if I dothat?
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> ziggy: http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS3057967810.html
[11:35] <MisterNutsack> i'm trying to connect to my laptop that is plugged into my desktop on an extra nick. i ran these and it's notw orking, can someone help please? http://pastebin.com/m39b2c9f6
[11:35] <phixxor> ys___: hey, fixing xorg.conf did let it boot! But it uncovered more problems :(
[11:35] <gluonman> I'm having difficulty adding Windows 7 to my Grub menu. I just get logged into Ubuntu by default never having the option of booting into Windows 7. Help please?
[11:35] <siva> i have taken a screen shot of the problem - but do not know how to upload here
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> siva: can you provide the pastebin please
[11:35] <apuokas> hello, is anybody having font problems with firefox?
[11:35] <a_n_o_n_> nope
[11:36] <ziggy> what about Gooogy looks like cool things on the desktop to be appealing to the eye
[11:36] <siva> sorry - what is the pastebin (i am very new to this IRC)
[11:36] <ys___> phixxor, can't you solve them with apt?
[11:36] <fgt> apuokas; try installing the language packs
[11:36] <ViaNocturn85> siva: I found that in the software sources there are lots of 'disabled at upgrade to karmic', I ticked those and it fixed my problem
[11:36] <phixxor> gluonman: you'll have to edit grub 2
[11:36] <fgt> apuokas; all of them
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> !paste | siva
[11:36] <gluonman> phixxor, which is what I've been doing, but haven't had much success.
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> siva: us that to provide the output of: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[11:36] <ikonia> MisterNutsack: you need to setup full networking
[11:37] <matahari> how can i boot into the recovery console with Karmic?
[11:37] <MisterNutsack> ikonia, how do i manage that?
[11:37] <ikonia> MisterNutsack: it's better if your second network card is on a different ip range than your primary to stop routing confusion
[11:37] <shredder12> I don't have scripts in /etc/grub.d/ after installation.. that is why i don't see any option to boot into ubuntu in grub?? what should I do now..??
[11:37] <ziggy> ty for the url
[11:37] <phixxor> ys___: no -- sudo apt-get remove -f didn't work -- error was "update-alternatives: error: no alternatives for iceape-flashplugin"
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> matahari: grub2 has a recovery console option in its menu
[11:37] <phixxor> gluonman: sorry man, but I've never had to do that myself, so I'm not sure how to help. Have you read any grub2 guides?
[11:37] <ys___> phixxor, how much still not configured packages do you have?
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> phixxor: uninstall the package, then try again
[11:38] <phixxor> ys___: I don't know -- it says 1 to remove and 2 not upgraded
[11:38] <phixxor> ActionParsnip: I don't know how to remove it, it won't remove
[11:38] <gluonman> phixxor, yes, which I've been trying to follow for the last hour or so, but nothing's working.
[11:38] <ys___> phixxor, so it's ok, just make what ActionParsnip said, remove the package and reinstall again
[11:38] <siva> ubottu : the message is : "Package operation failed.  The installation or removal of a software package failed.  details : E:I wasnt able to locate file for the adobe-flashplugin package"
[11:38] <ikonia> MisterNutsack: you can you network manage if you're in gnome to configure your second nic
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> phixxor: sudo dpkg -r iceape-flashplugin
[11:38] <ikonia> MisterNutsack: https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/internet/C/networkmanager.html
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> !info iceape-flashplugin
[11:39] <phixxor> ActionParsnip: oh, remove that package. gotcha ;)
[11:39] <siva> whenever trying to install / remove - it stops just after 3% and gives the same error, everytime.
[11:39] <progre55> hi people! I've updated my ubuntu.. and now my mouse pointer trambles when I move the mouse via the touchpad.. what can it be?
[11:39] <siva> i even tried restarting after the initial upgrade after upgrading to 9.10
[11:39] <MisterNutsack> ikonia, i have no idea what you just said
[11:40] <phixxor> ActionParsnip: that diesn't work either. E: couldn't find package
[11:40] <ikonia> MisterNutsack: are you using gnome ?
[11:40] <MisterNutsack> ikonia, yes
[11:40] <kane77> hi, how do I remove repository that I added with add-apt-repository command?
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> phixxor: then run: dpkg -l | grep ice
[11:40] <ikonia> MisterNutsack: check the url I've just sent you, it will show you how to add an IP address to a network card, follow that procedure but use the second network card
[11:40] <resno> should i be able to exectue pulseaudio via terminal?
[11:40] <siva> sir, any solution
[11:40] <phixxor> gluonman: hmm, can you describe what's not working in a little more detail? maybe that will help the channel troubleshoot it
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> phixxor: actually that may show a lot
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> resno: sure
[11:40] <ikonia> MisterNutsack: to make it easier for yourself put the second network card on a totally different IP range, that stops problems with the default routing
[11:41] <mrwes> kane77, System | Admin | Software Sources
[11:41] <phixxor> ActionParsnip: how about -l | flashplugin
[11:41] <MisterNutsack> ok thanks ikonia :)
[11:41] <phixxor> grep flashplugin
[11:41] <resno> ActionParsnip: when i try i get a bunch of errors, let me pastebin them
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> siva: you havent given a pastebin of the output of the commands I asked for
[11:41] <gluonman> phixxor, I'll be back with some details after a little while
[11:41] <siva> problem : Actionparsnip : I could not understand as to how to do what you are asking .... sorry
[11:42] <apuokas> anyone having very small fonts in firefox that can't be changed through regular settings?
[11:42] <ziggy> is it hard to get the plug ins for the desktop like the ones on this picture http://www.tweakhound.com/images/susedesktop_17aug07.png         i see the rocket doc thing like the apple and the cpu thingy i see thats its suse but does ubuntu do the same
[11:42] <phixxor> gluonman: good luck!
[11:42] <kane77> mrwes, thanks.. I forget that there are gui tools :D
[11:42] <resno> when i do pulseaudio in terminal i get this error: http://pastebin.com/m6ec274ed
[11:42] <ntnrozen> is a ext3 to ex4 upgrade recommended? if works well at all?
[11:42] <mikefleming> Hi can someone help a luddite with error 21 on install, pls?
[11:42] <Bodsda> ziggy: the dock could be 'awn' or 'avant window navigator' and the thing on the right is 'conky'
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> siva: go to http://pastebin.com     in a terminal run: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade    copy the entire output and pase it on the website, type a name in the box, click the paste button, the page will then change, copy the address in the address bar and paste it in here
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> siva: we will then be able to read the output you pasted
[11:43] <mrwes> kane77, sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list :)
[11:43] <ntnrozen> ziggy: i use awn, and its great
[11:43] <siva> ActionParsnip : thanks give me a minute and I will do it. thanks for this guidance
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> ntnrozen: you can change ext3 to ext4 but you do not get the full benefits of ext4 with a converted file system
[11:43] <phixxor> ActionParsnip: the only thing I could find with "ice" in the name is "rc icedtea-java7-bin" which doesn't sound too much like iceape
[11:44] <ziggy> ty for the information eveyone
[11:44] <a_n_o_n_> can ^Anonymous has unmute?
[11:44] <jelvis> hello, having problem installing 9.10 on a fakeraid setup
[11:44] <jelvis> Anyone with some input?
[11:44] <jelvis> I have read the fakeraid howto but that doesn't have info for 9.10
[11:44] <resno> jelvis: what problems.
[11:44] <jelvis> And 9.04 use the old version of grub
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> phixxor: ok well the rc means its uninstalled but the config is still lingering, you can remove it with: sudo dpkg -P icedtea-java7-bin
[11:44] <ziggy> now is this something that i may be able to get thro the add and remove or is it a secondarly thing
[11:44] <kane77> mrwes, but the ones added by add-apt-repository command are not added there. probably to /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ ?
[11:44] <phixxor> ActionParsnip: ok, will try
[11:45] <Sagaci> kane77: or gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:46] <kahen> i've been thinking... since you are technically distributing GPL software when using bittorrent to download an ISO... what would happen if someone asked you for the source code to the stuff on the CD? of course it's almost certainly a hypothetical question, but still... my google-fu is not strong enough to find whether someone has answered that question
[11:46] <resno> i get an error via terminal when issunig pulseaudio: http://pastebin.com/m6ec274ed cant get sound working after upgrade
[11:46] <phixxor> ActionParsnip: ys___ purging icedtea was sucessful, but I'm getting the same error for sudo apt-get remove -f
[11:46] <ntnrozen> action: so lets say, that if i don't want to reinstall my whole system, i should stay with ext3? (not that i know much about it, besides reading of it before installing 9.10,  some hours ago) :)
[11:46] <matahari> how can i boot into recovery mode under karmic? i am using Grub as bootloader, but i don't see it anymore at startup - it seems timeout is 0s or similar
[11:46] <siva> ActionParsnip : I have done and it is 126. Name : siva
[11:47] <ys___> matahari, keep pressing ESC key, it should show up
[11:47] <resno> siva: please post the the full address and submitting
[11:47] <ys___> phixxor, install it then
[11:47] <resno> siva:  after submitting
[11:47] <phixxor> ActionParsnip: ys___ : dpkg: error processing flashplugin-installer (--remove): subprossess installed pre0fremoval script returned error exit status 2 postinst called with argument 'abort'remove'
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> siva: I need the address of the page that your browser went to after you clicked paste
[11:47] <jumbers> Is there any reliable way to keep a shell user from snooping around outside of his/her home directory?
[11:47] <kane77> ziggy, the upper bar is either cairo dock, or docky.. cairo dock should be in repositories and for docky there is ppa..
[11:47] <Sagaci> siva: the URL of the page after you clicked paste
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> phixxor: sudo apt-get --reinstall install flashplugin-installer
[11:48] <siva> sir, there was no "paste" only the send
[11:48] <matahari> ys___, let me try
[11:48] <kahen> jumbers: man chroot
[11:48] <siva> http://pastebin.com/m36491045
[11:48]  * nonix4 ponders... sorry for the spam, but don't remember how to scroll down w/ irssi...
[11:48] <siva> is this the one - sir
[11:48] <siva> sorry for my ignorance
[11:48] <mikefleming> Error code 21 on Grub 1.5 after Ubuntu install onto IBM Thinkpad R50e with 40 Gb HDD (34Gb usable)  Install offered to repartition, as it could also see WD USD HDD (160Gb).  Can boot from install disk selecting boot from first hard disk option, which shows HD1,4 ext 3 as the boot. Any ideas?
[11:48] <resno> siva: yes thats should be it
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> siva: perfect :D
[11:48] <phixxor> ActionParsnip: ys___: the other thing is the upgrade broke my wifi so I don't think flashplugin installer will be able to uninstall with no internet
[11:48] <dual> Anyone else experiencing mouse lag when pressing any letter on the keyboard in 9.10?
[11:48] <siva> THANKS (i am shouting in joy) dont mind please
[11:49] <ys___> phixxor, i have to go, sorry
[11:49] <babak> how solve this problem?   http://paste.ubuntu.com/305816/
[11:49] <phixxor> ys___: no prob -- thanks for all your help!
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> siva: ok if you run your software sources, you need to remove the Jaunty CD as a repository. Then you will get zero errors
[11:49] <siva> and if you dont mind - i am seeing your names in colour, how is that
[11:49] <aMVadder> siva: hit escape | page up / page down = scrolling irssi screen
[11:49] <siva> please continue sir
[11:49] <phixxor> ActionParsnip: that doesn't work either. depends: nspluginwrapper but it is not installable
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> 1INFO python-beaker
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> !info python-beaker
[11:49] <vertagano> Upgraded to Ubuntu 9.10, now my Hauppauge 1600's remote won't work; /dev/lirc0 is never created.
[11:50] <a_n_o_n_> siva: they hacked your irc client and made their names colorful
[11:50] <a_n_o_n_> siva: prob because they're fruity
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> phixxor: can you run: sudo dpkg -r flashplugin-installer
[11:50] <siva> anon - dont joke
[11:50] <nonix4> oh, "/sb end" was it... not obvious :/
[11:50] <Sagaci> siva: go system > administration > software sources, and on the first tab, untick the bottom box which should be JAUNTY cd or something
[11:50] <a_n_o_n_> but it's fun :(
[11:50] <siva> will try now and get back - Sagaci
[11:50] <Sagaci> siva: then reload your sources
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> phixxor: you may have to manually download debs for the packages at fault to get squared up
[11:51] <babak> how can solve this problem?   http://paste.ubuntu.com/305819/
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> babak: sudo apt-get install python-beaker
[11:51] <vertagano> Upgraded to Ubuntu 9.10, now my Hauppauge 1600's remote won't work; /dev/lirc0 is never created.
[11:52] <phixxor> ActionParsnip: ok. dpkg -r gives same error : "dpkg: error processing flashplugin-installer (--remove_: subprocess installed pre-removal script returned error exit status 2" / postinst called with argument 'abort-remove'
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> siva: another way to do it is to manually edit your souces file and comment out the CD ROM LINE
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> phixxor: IVE SEEN THIS SORT OF THING BEFORE
[11:52] <babak> ActionParsnip: this error show  http://paste.ubuntu.com/305820/
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> sorry for caps
[11:52] <siva> Sagaci : I did it and still the message after "dpkg" is"E: /var/cache/apt/archives/adobe-flashplugin_10.0.32.18-1jaunty1_i386.deb: subprocess new pre-removal script returned error exit status 2"
[11:52] <Sagaci> ActionParsnip: I think it would be easier to untick it via the gui
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> this crap keyboard has the most sensitive capslock key ever
[11:53] <phixxor> ActionParsnip: lol, np. I thought you were just really excited
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> Sagaci: oh totally, its just an alternative
[11:53] <siva> if it is too difficult - i will reinstall (enjoy 4 hours to do that too)
[11:53] <socks4anon> wow OSS 4.2 is like 10x better than ALSA/pulseaudio
[11:53] <ripedar> how to ignore sound driver's misreported dB information :( . Can you help me?
[11:54] <siva> it is so confusing here - so many problems, and so many answers - how you people manage to address to right ones
[11:54] <a_n_o_n_> ripedar: don't look at your computer screen
[11:54] <ntnrozen> i have searched for it, but could't get it to work, but since you guys are updated, is there a way to use different backgrounds for workspaces? (i have read it's possible only on KDE)
[11:54] <a_n_o_n_> ripedar: just ignore it
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> phixxor: its the massive weakness in package based systems, if the packages arent all square you can't install / remove anything
[11:54] <socks4anon> everything is clearer, mixes better no stuttering why is OSS 4 not standard?
[11:54] <ripedar> a_n_o_n_: in pulseaudio config
[11:54] <Dr_Willis> ntnrozen:  its possible via compiz i hear - but it can be a pain to get going.
[11:55] <ntnrozen> thanks dr_wi
[11:55] <Sagaci> siva: there's potentially over 1500 people to answer questions
[11:55] <Yarri> Hej! I just upgraded to 9.10. It was rather smooth but I can not connect to gTalk using pidgin nor to gmail using imap on Thunderbird.
[11:56] <Yarri> My google foo fails me. Does anyone had such a problem?
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> phixxor: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/adobe-flashplugin/+bug/371890
[11:56] <babak> ActionParsnip: this error show  http://paste.ubuntu.com/305820/
[11:57] <resno> i imagine alsamixer has been removed
[11:57] <jagadeesh> how do to install xbmc on karmic?
[11:57] <madsj> hi; does anyone know a fast repository ? downloading packages with < 25 KB/s is not acceptable, when I have a 30 mbit-connection (it's shared, though)
[11:58] <mikefleming> I'm new to this, can someone just ping my name, so I know I'm being seen pls?
[11:58] <madsj> I'm currently trying to upgrade to 9.10
[11:58] <kasper> madsj 9.10 is just out... everything is slow
[11:58] <bazhang> mikefleming, hi
[11:58] <crazylaws> it maybe nothing new, but sound device is missing after upgrade to 9.10...
[11:58] <kasper> everyone is upgrading
[11:58] <Dr_Willis> madsj:  thers a mirror select tool in synaptic that can scan/pick a better server perhaps
[11:58] <jagadeesh> mikefleming: hi
[11:58] <yancho> can i burn ubuntu 9.10 on a dvd instead of a cd ?
[11:58] <sokeri> Yes
[11:58] <mikefleming> thx bazhang
[11:58] <bazhang> yancho, sure
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> jagadeesh: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/team-xbmc-svn/ppa/ubuntu karmic main   use that repo
[11:58] <Dr_Willis> yancho:  ive never had that work. You can easially put it on a flash drive
[11:58] <kasper> yancho , yes but make it bootable
[11:58] <jagadeesh> ActionParsnip: thanks
[11:58] <madsj> kasper: ok; perhaps I should just cancel, and wait for a couple of months
[11:59] <kasper> madsj , will be better next week
[11:59] <resno> crazylaws: they banished alsamixer and now use pulse... same problem here
[11:59] <mikefleming> need help on error 21 on Grub 1.5, can any one help pls?
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> !slow | madsj
[11:59] <madsj> kasper: I suppose it will resume the downloads, when I close the upgrade manager ?
[11:59] <schaze> Hi, I am just trying to enable xfowarding in KARMIC. but I cannot find anywhere any settings neiher in gconftool-2 nor in he 'mighty' gui. HELP Please..
[11:59] <typhoon> you can change the source server in software sources, but I wouldn't bother for now.9.10 is brand new
[11:59] <crazylaws> resno: could you pls advise how to fix it?
[11:59] <kasper> mikeflemming , HD recognized in BIOS?
[11:59] <Dr_Willis> schaze:  X forwarding for SSH? you mean?
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> schaze: if you use openssh-server   xforwarding is enabled by default
[12:00] <mikefleming> y, see both c and usd hdd
[12:00] <eklo> I've just finished downloading 9.10 and I wonder if there's a way I can burn both ISOs onto one dvd disc and have it so I can select which version to boot
[12:00] <resno> crazylaws: i did just say, i have no sound either. i found this souce, but it hasnt helpedhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1307491
[12:00] <schaze> No, I mean changing my KArmic X server to allow incoming X connections
[12:00] <ntnrozen> for me it took 6 hours, not a big deal
[12:00] <crazylaws> resno: clear thx...
[12:01] <Dr_Willis> eklo:  i made a bootable flash drive using grub2 - just to do that. :) i got 3+ ubunutu 9.10 iso/variants on it.. Not sure how you would do it with a DVD however
[12:01] <schaze> I do a ssh -XY to my ubuntu 8.10 server, set the display variable to the karmic box:0.0 and do a xhost + on the Karmix box
[12:01] <schaze> but I cannot even start xclock
[12:01] <mikefleming> kasper -  Error code 21 on Grub 1.5 after Ubuntu install onto IBM Thinkpad R50e with 40 Gb HDD (34Gb usable)  Install offered to repartition, as it could also see WD USD HDD (160Gb).  Can boot from install disk selecting boot from first hard disk option, which shows HD1,4 ext 3 as the boot. Any ideas?
[12:01] <eklo> I've found a way to do it with flash drives, but a disc for me is preferable
[12:01] <schaze> when I check ps -ef | grep X it tellst me : /usr/bin/X :0 -br -verbose -auth /var/run/gdm/auth-for-gdm-OXuf5v/database -nolisten tcp
[12:01] <a_n_o_n_> i've got a question
[12:02] <Dr_Willis> schaze:  check the ssh configs to be sure it allows X forwarding.. you may as well make it the 'default' to be on. then you wont need the -X option
[12:02] <a_n_o_n_> is there a fucking wordfilter in this damn room?
[12:02] <a_n_o_n_> nope
[12:02] <Dr_Willis> schaze:  err.. the 'sshd' configs perhaps.
[12:02] <phixxor> ActionParsnip: thanks so much for the link! that solution worked
[12:02] <BlouBlou> !ops | a_n_o_n_
[12:02] <kasper> mikefleming , reconfigure GRUB
[12:02] <phixxor> !ops a_n_o_n_
[12:02] <schaze> it is working for my other ubuntu 9.04 laptop
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> phixxor: good lad
[12:02] <mikefleming> kasper - I'm a newbie, where do I edit it, pls?
[12:03] <Dr_Willis> schaze:   ssh has -V and -VVV and up options to enable verbose messages for trouble shooting..
[12:03] <schaze> Dr_Willis: I believe the problem is that my Karmic X server does not even allow connecting
[12:03] <schaze> Dr_Willis: ok, I'll try the -VVV
[12:03] <ntnrozen> Btw talking about kgrub, now that i installed 9.10, my kgrub editor is missing, and also in console mode i can't find it, any help?
[12:03] <Dr_Willis> schaze:    the X server isent doing anything.. I can ssh to a  box with no X going at all and run stuff
[12:03] <Venko> Anyone use Google's Jabber service via Apps for your Domain? I'm new to Empathy but guessing it should "just work" normally as there's a Google Talk account option
[12:03] <Dr_Willis> schaze:  the xhost stuff shouldent be needed , or the exporting of DISPLAY either
[12:04] <atterdag> I've just upgraded mythbuntu from 9.04 to 9.10, and now I can't see my Hauppauge Nova-T 500 DVB-T cards from mythtv-setup. But I can see in dmesg that the modules have been loaded fine
[12:04] <Venko> The only difference is I'm using Apps for Your Domain so putting me@mydomain.com in the login ID then talk.google.com in the override server box
[12:04] <kasper> anyone else with intel 965 and Karmic suffering "cant enabled advanced desktop graphics" <-- thought this was solved in karmic?
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> schaze: just connect with: ssh -X user@host     and you will be able to run x forwarded apps
[12:04] <schaze> Dr_Willis: Oh man :) I am so stupid. I just tried it the same way as on my HPUX work boxes...
[12:04] <ntnrozen> it works fine, and i guess it uses the previous grub, since i've read it has issues with other os's, for now
[12:04] <nelson8874> hello
[12:04] <Sixes> This is most odd. Every time I start any IRC client, my printer (HP Photosmart) spews out two pages with about 8 characters of junk on them. Any clues anyone?
[12:04] <brazhang> hello
[12:04] <schaze> Dr_Willis: But you are right, without doing anyhting it works :)
[12:05] <Yaya> Anyone know if WINEHQ is working with 9.10?
[12:05] <Younder> Ok got sound system to work under 9.10
[12:05] <schaze> Dr_Willis: Thanks a lot!
[12:05] <elky> a_n_o_n_, i take it you will behave this time?
[12:05] <Dr_Willis> schaze:  :) i use the ssh-copy-id thing also to set up where i dont enve need to enter a password. :)
[12:05] <a_n_o_n_> wait
[12:05] <a_n_o_n_> wat
[12:05] <a_n_o_n_> oh
[12:05] <a_n_o_n_> behave
[12:05] <kasper> mikefleming , did you install grub on 2nd HD?
[12:05] <FloodBot2> a_n_o_n_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:05] <Dr_Willis> schaze:  then ya can make launchers that run stuff on the remote box locally. saves time
[12:05] <john> hi all can anyone help me with a firewall problem??
[12:05] <a_n_o_n_> sorry... habit
[12:05] <janhouse> Can I make network manager applet control only one network card? Or can I make exception so that it could not control one of my network cards?
[12:05]  * a_n_o_n_ grumble grumble
[12:05] <typhoon> has anyone heard any news about the sis 671 chipset driver? Seems its all gone quiet since 8.10, bit of a problem now we are on 9.10
[12:05] <unsinn> hello
[12:05] <dextro> hello
[12:05] <mikc> I am unable to upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10
[12:05] <fgt> ! hello
[12:05] <brazhang> !hi
[12:06] <schaze> Dr_Willis: Oh I already to priv/pub key authentication no problem with that
[12:06] <elky> a_n_o_n_, do you have a question about Ubuntu support?
[12:06] <schaze> ssh -c is working fine like that :)
[12:06] <twisted-ferrett> hello i am new to ubuntu and linux and was wandering if anyone can help me with a desktop problem
[12:06] <test34> janhouse, you can manually setup a network card in /etc/netword/interfaces
[12:06] <a_n_o_n_> yes
[12:06] <mikc> "Impossible to download the release notes. Please check your internet connexion
[12:06] <yuanmin> hello everybody, i have a problem, i can't upgrade my 9.04 to 9.10 from the first time i canceled the upgrade downloading, anybody can help me?
[12:06] <Yaya> QUESTION- Anyone tried out WINE with 9.10 yet?
[12:06] <a_n_o_n_> why is it filled with so many n00bs?
[12:06] <mikefleming> kasper I think it has, but don't know how to see the partitions.  I've adjusted the bios to look at the 2nd disk first, but no joy.
[12:06] <fgt> ! question | elky
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> Yaya: yeah i use it
[12:06] <a_n_o_n_> not that i mind, it's good lulz
[12:06] <yuanmin>  can't upgrade my 9.04 to 9.10 from the first time i canceled the upgrade downloading, anybody can help me?
[12:06] <janhouse> test34, but I would like to make exception for only one card
[12:06] <elky> fgt, please don't.
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> Yaya: 1.1.32 is in the repos
[12:06] <Guest28961> im fairly new to ubuntu and on my firestarter firewall i get serious incoming attempts, i was told this is normal but what is a ipv6 protocol as most of the serious connections are through this???
[12:07] <ntnrozen> mikc: i also had some problems before i updated my 9.04, did you update before upgrading to 9.10?
[12:07] <yuanmin>  can't upgrade my 9.04 to 9.10 using CD from the first time i canceled the upgrade downloading, anybody can help me?
[12:07] <elky> a_n_o_n_, i think you're in the wrong place. Please do not disrupt this channel for those who need it.
[12:07] <a_n_o_n_> oh, and i do have a question
[12:07] <a_n_o_n_> ok
[12:07] <Yaya> yuanmin: having download speed issues?
[12:07] <a_n_o_n_> but this one is serious
[12:07] <roffe_> yuanmin, why don't you make a fresh install instead?
[12:07] <a_n_o_n_> what was this about?
 !ops a_n_o_n_
[12:07] <FloodBot2> a_n_o_n_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:07] <yuanmin> cause  downloading is slow
[12:07] <kasper> mikefleming , download supergrub and reinstall
[12:07] <nelson8874> i have a out of scale problem on the 9.10 live version.... any help?
[12:07] <elky> a_n_o_n_, you're annoying people and disrupting the channel, so people reported you to ops like me.
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> Yaya: the wine repo doesnt have a karmic repo yet, only jaunty
[12:07] <test34> janhouse, for example if you want to make an exception for eth0: http://pastie.org/677842
[12:07] <mikefleming>  is that the editor?
[12:07] <a_n_o_n_> ah
[12:07] <BlouBlou> a_n_o_n_: this command tells ops when someone is trolling, in this case, you
[12:07] <mikc> ntnrozen: you mean apt-get update  before?
[12:08] <a_n_o_n_> sweet deal
[12:08] <janhouse> test34, thank you! :)
[12:08] <a_n_o_n_> good system you guys have here
[12:08] <janhouse> Long live the Ubuntu comunity! :)
[12:08] <twisted-ferrett> i cannont change the desktop from black to any sort of image in 9.10 can anyone help me please
[12:08] <shadow98> hey guys just installed 9.10 fresh.  Been waiting for it for a while.  I am having problems with video card not working correctly.  I have an nvidia 9600 GS and I downloaded and installed from nvida's website the latest drivers released on 10-27.  The problem is the video settings for the second monitor will not save after reboot..im using twinview which is the only setting that will work..
[12:08] <test34> np janhouse
[12:08] <brazhang> ho to register my freak nick name?
[12:08] <Yaya> ActionParsnip any compatibility problems?
[12:08] <elky> a_n_o_n_, if you're not going to ask a question about Ubuntu applications or settings or so forth, could you please keep quiet in the future? thanks.
[12:08] <mikefleming> kasper, just googled it, thx, I'll download and try again.
[12:09] <kasper> ;)
[12:09] <Younder> There was some serious sound issues with ubuntu 9.10
[12:09] <Guest28961> anyone help plz??
[12:09] <schaze> ActionParsnip: Thanks for the help! That went quick :)
[12:09] <dextro> ok guys anyone hear about the chipset intel 945GME with karmic ?any problem known ???
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> Yaya: runs office 2k3, firefox and theme park world  fine
[12:09] <Younder> I hade to reinstall all my drives
[12:09] <Younder> sound drivers
[12:09] <ntnrozen> mikc: well i used "update-manager -d", i had some updates for 9.04, only after i updated, the upgrade worked for me
[12:09] <janhouse> And how can I start some process from terminal in background? So I could add them to rc.local...
[12:10] <a_n_o_n_> i don't know... i kinda like the sound of my own keyboard
[12:10] <Yaya> ActionParsnip: Alright, thanks. I'm gonna try and see if 2k7 runs and a couple of games
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> dextro: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/universe-bugs/2009-June/105348.html
[12:10] <a_n_o_n_> !ops elky
[12:10] <janhouse> for apps that don't have daemon mode
[12:10] <nelson8874> i have no image on the 9.10 live cd, it says Out Of Scale. any help?
[12:10] <mikc> ntnrozen: 9.04 is already fully upgraded
[12:10] <ntnrozen> mikc well so
[12:10] <ntnrozen> mikc well sorry then :)
[12:10] <Guest28961> yay! anon finally booted lol
[12:11] <mikc> ntnrozen: I tried from alternate CD not to have to download all packages, it says "impossible to check signature of packages"
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> Yaya: http://appdb.winehq.org/objehttp://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=4992ctManager.php?sClass=version&iId=4992
[12:11] <Yaya> mick: go system>admin>sofware sources>updates>release updates>select normal
[12:11] <fgt> ^Anonymous; I think I solved your problem, oh were you muted???
[12:11] <phixxor> hey lets not have reverse trolling either
[12:11] <Yaya> mick: you should see upgrade option next time you open  update manager, also, change the update server on the first tab to main server
[12:11] <Yaya> mick:a lot faster
[12:12] <Exile> hey guys I've just upgraded and cant boot anymore
[12:12] <Guest28961> i think il ask my question later. seems to busy in here at the moment!
[12:12] <Younder> still problems though
[12:12] <typhoon> exile - what do you mean can't boot?
[12:12] <babak> how solve this problem???   http://paste.ubuntu.com/305832/
[12:12] <fgt> Guest23506; it's always this busy
[12:12] <jrib> Guest28961: well the more people there are the more likely someone can help you
[12:12] <Exile> I'm getting an '/tmp: waiting for (null)'
[12:13] <Exile> error
[12:13] <Younder> rythmbox won't run, and 90% of the music on utube won't play
[12:13] <Younder> But the drives seems ok
[12:13] <Younder> driver
[12:13] <Guest28961> its nothing bad, just wanted to know what a ipv6 is cus on my firewall the serious ones seem to be trying to get through like this. is it normal???
[12:13] <Subby83> Hi, is there any possibility to install karmic without home encryption?
[12:13] <typhoon> exile; how did you upgrade?
[12:13] <typhoon> cd, iso, update manager?
[12:14] <kasper_> alright, that was a crash
[12:14] <Dr_Willis> Subby83:  i dont think homewncryption was forced on you.     Ive not used it on any of the 3 machines i have
[12:14] <fgt> Guest23506; ipv6 isn't good at all, get rid of it
[12:14] <PsychoMario> Is it possible to get XFCE on a different computer over serial line?
[12:14] <grawity> fgt: Is it?
[12:14] <Guest28961> fgt how do i?? im new to ubuntu and its only my 3rd day running it
[12:14] <grawity> PsychoMario: apt-get remove all xfce-related things.
[12:14] <Roland> when installing ubuntu 9.10, on which partition will it put GRUB on?
[12:14] <Younder> mike is down
[12:14] <Dr_Willis> PsychoMario:  You could use pppd and  X/ssh X forwarding I guess... but thats going to be slow I imagine
[12:14] <nelson8874> after booting the 9.10 live cd i have no image on the monitor it says "out of range" :(
[12:14] <Subby83> Dr_Willis: I installed Karmic and my home was encryptet. i installed it twice and did not see any quiestion for encryption
[12:15] <woble> "compiz --replace" crashes desktop on Karmic, no proprietary drivers (none listed either), cant enable advanced desktop graphics either. Intel 965
[12:15] <Dr_Willis> Subby83:  Its definatly not enctyped on these 3 machines. I recall seeing a check box to enable encryption. but ive been running the beta/rc not done a clean;full install from final yet.
[12:15] <PsychoMario> i already know i can do ssh X forwarding, i want to set up my laptop as kind of a dumb terminal, connect to my desktop via serial cable, and get a GUI not just a terminal
[12:15] <Younder> circle of life on utube plays
[12:15] <incorrect> i don't see how i can change the gdm theme, something went wrong during the upgrade and now its uber ugly
[12:16] <babak> how can install mercurial ?
[12:16] <typhoon> guys\gals..is there any news you've heard of on the sis671 driver?
[12:16] <Subby83> Dr_Willis: Okay, so I have to take a better look ;)
[12:16] <Dr_Willis> PsychoMario:  yes.. thats why you sould use pppd you basically would be doing 'dialup' over the serial cable as if it was a network card.
[12:16] <Rak68> hello all, i try to install ubuntu but it dosnt recognize my partitions. i have 7 partitions, but it sees my hard as a unpartitioned hard. what should i do?
[12:16] <OerHeks> PsychoMario, you want PXE boot ?
[12:16] <Dr_Willis> PsychoMario:  i did somthing similer like 10 years ago. :)
[12:16] <Younder> babak, sudo apt-get install mercurial
[12:16] <PsychoMario> PXE boot is different. i'm going to install some light distro on the lappy, and look into pppd as mentioned.
[12:17] <NoOova> hi all!! why i cant install 9.10 from dvd? black screen after booting
[12:17] <Younder> ouch
[12:17] <Dr_Willis> PsychoMario:  be easier to track down some cheap network cards. :)
[12:17] <pretender> runing ubuntu 9.10 netbook remix hoe do i get to the classic gnome desktop .  theres no desktop switcher
[12:17] <progre55> hey all! I've updated my ubuntu to 9.10.. and now my mouse pointer kinda trambles when I move the mouse via the touchpad.. what can it be?
[12:17] <typhoon> loads of graphics error on Karmic is seems, you're not alone no)ova
[12:17] <babak> Younder: this error show  http://paste.ubuntu.com/305837/
[12:17] <sl> hi
[12:17] <Guest28961> fgt you here?
[12:17] <PsychoMario> i have network cards for all the computers. i just want to try something pointless and time consuming
[12:18] <fgt> Guest23506; I can't help you
[12:18] <fgt> sry
[12:18] <NoOova> why i cant install 9.10 from dvd? black screen after booting
[12:18] <sl> i have tried the upgrade with the alternate cd and the internet upgrade
[12:18] <sl> but i have that problem
[12:18] <Dr_Willis> PsychoMario:  just play with a serial terminal then. :) i have several in the garrage i no longer use..
[12:18] <Guest28961> hi you said that ipv6 was bad and needed to get rid of it.. how?? im new to ubuntu and only had it 3 days, still learning and now getting worried im being hacked!!
[12:18] <Dr_Willis> PsychoMario:  there used to be a 'make your own isp' howto - i followed ages ago..
[12:18] <unsinn> how much was the increase of speed using intel graphic card w/ ubuntu 9.04?
[12:18] <nelson8874> well i see that the 9.10 still have too many problems, maybe it is better to keep on the 9.04 version....
[12:18] <sl> first this http://www.ubuntu-pics.de/bild/29212/screenshot_001_7i1OCF.png
[12:19] <typhoon> no0ova - try the alternate cd iso
[12:19] <dj_> hey guys i upgradeed to 9.10 now my screen resolution is bad i want to fix it, here is my graphic card VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device, my resolution is only 800
[12:19] <phixxor> does anybody remember the command that tells you information about your wifi devices/connections? (Mine seem broken)
[12:19] <shadow98> hey guys just installed 9.10 fresh.  Been waiting for it for a while.  I am having problems with video card not working correctly.  I have an nvidia 9600 GS and I downloaded and installed from nvida's website the latest drivers released on 10-27.  The problem is the video settings for the second monitor will not save after reboot..im using twinview which is the only setting that will work..
[12:19] <sl> and this http://www.ubuntu-pics.de/bild/29215/screenshot_002_z204P7.png
[12:19] <woble> phixxor ifconfig ?
[12:19] <mandy_> hello
[12:19] <typhoon> ive had to drop back to VESA (yuck)
[12:19] <sl> someone can help me ?
[12:19] <phixxor> woble: that might be it
[12:19] <PsychoMario> i dont really have the resources for a serial terminal. cant buy one (only a kid)
[12:19] <typhoon> iwconfig
[12:19] <Dr_Willis> shadow98:  did you run the nvidia-settings tool as root and save them?
[12:19] <sl> i can't do the upgrade i have an error that i have uploaded the photo
[12:19] <woble> phixxor or ifconfig wlan0
[12:19] <phixxor> !hello | mandy
[12:20] <mandy_> is it recommended to use ubunut 9.10 on a production sever or is it best to stay with 8.04
[12:20] <Dr_Willis> PsychoMario:   i got mine from the garrbage :)
[12:20] <typhoon> phixxor; iwconfig too
[12:20] <woble> mandy_ i wouldnt recommend it.. not yet
[12:20] <phixxor> woble: typhoon : alright, I'll give them a go
[12:20] <Dr_Willis> PsychoMario:  i remember when vt100 serial terminals where 'cutting edge tech' :)
[12:20] <yancho> i cannot use a dvd for ubuntu 9.10 and i have no cd's .. is there omething to check before making a usb boot?
[12:20] <mandy_> so staying with 8.04 is best?
[12:20] <Semtex> hey guys I have screwed my install by upgrading from 9.04 to 9.10
[12:20] <phixxor> mandy_: until all the installation bugs get ironed out
[12:20] <PsychoMario> im way too young for that :) but im interested in older hardware stuff
[12:20] <mandy_> ok
[12:20] <Dr_Willis> yancho:  i alwyas use usb-boot media now a days.. they install faster for me.
[12:21] <psypointer> hi
[12:21] <Semtex> I'm getting an /tmp: waiting for (null) error
[12:21] <Guest28961> fgt, did you recieve my last message??
[12:21] <fgt> no
[12:21] <phixxor> mandy_: some people have no troble, some have a lot. It's safest to wait awhile
[12:21] <fgt> send it again
[12:21] <yancho> Dr_Willis,   but this is an old amd 1500 XP - not sure the motherboard support usb boot
[12:21] <mandy_> ok
[12:21] <psypointer> i've got a fresh buntu install and an geforce 9600 gt. the restricted driver manager doesn't offer me the nvidia treiber, it simply shows nothing. is that ab ug?
[12:21] <woble> psypointer , im with you.. no idea how to solve
[12:21] <sl> i have a little problem doing the upgrade
[12:21] <Dr_Willis> yancho:  one way to find out i guess...
[12:21] <dj_> hey guys i upgradeed to 9.10 now my screen resolution is bad i want to fix it, here is my graphic card VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device, my resolution is only 800
[12:21] <fgt> ! /msg
[12:22] <yancho> hehe true Dr_Willis  :)
[12:22] <fgt> ! /msg | Guest23506
[12:22] <phixxor> wobble: typhoon : seems like my wireless device isn't enabled in karmic anymore...
[12:22] <sl> yancho !
[12:22] <Seeker`> -13:28:00- :^Anonymous : I think I accidentally my WHOLE internet
[12:22] <Seeker`> -13:28:16- :^Anonymous : What firefox?
[12:22] <Seeker`> -13:28:35- :^Anonymous : you guys set foxes on FIRE HERE?
[12:22] <Seeker`> -13:28:41- :cumulus007 : ^Anonymous, 3.5 and google chrome from the ppa
[12:22] <Seeker`> -13:28:46- ~s~ ^Anonymous < (i=Unknown@114.77.138.156) has left #ubuntu [requested by vox: "you should know better"]
[12:22] <Guest28961> fgt: you said need to get rid of ipv6. im new to ubuntu (3 days) and i dont know how. can you advise me on how to do this and a decent firewall (using firestarter now)
[12:22] <Subby83> Dr_Willis: I have my Notebook in front and Installing right now, lets see if there is an option to disable encryption ;)
[12:22] <sl> can you help me please
[12:22] <Dr_Willis> yancho:  i got a usb flash drive with grub2 on it - it can boot any of the 4+ ubuntu iso files I have on it. :)
[12:22] <FloodBot2> Seeker`: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:22] <phixxor> !ops | Seeker`
[12:22] <phixxor> oh wait maybe not
[12:22] <Seeker`> sorry
[12:23] <albasheers> vlc , mplayer are not playing video in ubuntu karmic kola
[12:23] <woble> albasheers, codecs installed?
[12:23] <woble> albasheers, restricted extras?
[12:23] <sl> woble: hi
[12:23] <yancho> Dr_Willis,  ok ill check how that is done - never did such an install
[12:23] <Semtex> how can I fix my install? I tryed doing an upgrade and now I cant boot. I getting an '/tmp: waiting for (null)' error
[12:23] <woble> whats the problem sl ?
[12:24] <typhoon> phixxor: PCI or usb? you can get the list from lsusb or lspci - see if there is anything you recognise
[12:24] <nicklas_> http://www.dumpt.com/img/viewer.php?file=hi9ezo6c67wfq1sg38nj.png
[12:24] <albasheers> Woble: i have installed all codecs i am able to play the files in gnome mplayer
[12:24] <nonix4> which'd be the fastest way to generate altcd .iso if I already have dvd .iso? zsync?
[12:24] <aanderse> if i'm using module-assistant to build an nvidia package (version y)  but i want to specify that it build an older version (y) how do i tell it to work with the older version?
[12:24] <sl> woble: the upgrade can't be done because of that error : http://www.ubuntu-pics.de/bild/29215/screenshot_002_z204P7.png
[12:24] <woble> sl just hit close and enable the community repos after upgrade
[12:25] <philipp_> Hallo?
[12:25] <dreambox> hello guys! I am wondering if I could start the installation from a USB stick
[12:25] <dreambox> or an external disk
[12:25] <dreambox> instead of burning a CD
[12:25] <typhoon> dreambox: yes you can
[12:25] <PsychoMario> how would i go about forwarding a whole desktop environment (something light) over ssh (X forwarding)
[12:25] <Dr_Willis> dreambox:  thats how i always do installs.. via usb
[12:25] <Semtex> hey guys is my bootproblem fixable? or have I lost all my data?
[12:25] <sl> woble: i have done that and after i had that problem : http://www.ubuntu-pics.de/bild/29212/screenshot_001_7i1OCF.png
[12:25] <ntnrozen> i've asked before, and got answered i'm not the first one to have a touch pad issue, (only external usb mouse is working), does is happen only on HP notebooks?
[12:25] <dreambox> I suppose I just "unzip" the iso to the usb stick? while this being empty?
[12:25] <frostburn> PsychoMario, ssh -X
[12:26] <Dr_Willis> Semtex:  you could al2ways boot a live cd. and copy your imporntant data somewhere safe..
[12:26] <PsychoMario> frostburn, that can do specific programs, how do i do the whole destop e.g. XFCE
[12:26] <dj_> hey guys this is my screnn resolution how to fix this http://www.pastebin.ca/1650363
[12:26] <Dr_Willis> dreambox:  you do NOT unzip the iso to  a usb stick.
[12:26] <Younder> ryhmbox dumps with a 'can't find pygtk'
[12:26] <dreambox> typhoon Dr_Willis : how do i do it
[12:26] <typhoon> dreambox: i "hacked" around last time, i created a bootable usb stick, using the usb installer, then replaced all the files with ones from the iso
[12:26] <frostburn> PsychoMario, xfce is just a program, run that
[12:26] <Dr_Willis> dreambox:  you use a tool like unetbootin or usb-disk-creator to make a bootabel flash drive
[12:26] <typhoon> dreambox: seemed to work for me :D
[12:26] <PsychoMario> ooh, ill have to try that.
[12:27] <Younder> as a pt-get refuses to acknolege such  a module exists
[12:27] <Subby83> Dr_Willis: there is really _no_ option to choose for encryption. but after installation it is encrypted :(
[12:27] <sl> woble: i have tried the installation with internet and with alternate cd i have the same problem
[12:27] <Younder> apt-get
[12:27] <dreambox> Dr_Willis : ok trying to find these tools.. how much space do I need?
[12:27] <sl> woble: http://www.ubuntu-pics.de/bild/29212/screenshot_001_7i1OCF.png
[12:27] <Dr_Willis> dreambox:  a cd is 700 mb.. so.. :) 700mb.. + a little more
[12:27] <Semtex> Dr_Willis I have over 500GB of data to move if I cant fix it!
[12:27] <Dr_Willis> Semtex:   it pays to have backups.. i would suggest backing up anything.. in any case.
[12:28] <dreambox> I wonder if I could do that with Windows 7 too...
[12:28] <Semtex> If worst comes to worst I'll have to format but my data is still there
[12:28] <phixxor> typhoon: I found the answer. Same bug as these guys http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1305812&highlight=karmic+madwifi
[12:28] <Dr_Willis> dreambox:  ive seen guides to make bootable win7 flash drives.
[12:28] <anatolich> hi all! i got a problem installing grub2 on a partition (Karmic). Can anybody consult me?
[12:28] <Semtex> the install is just screwed and I dont how to fix it
[12:28] <PsychoMario> could i forward XFCE over serial over ssh from putty in windows?
[12:28] <Dr_Willis> Semtex:  backup befor formatng. :) of course..  No idea on fixing your install... its always a good idea to havbe bacjups
[12:29] <dreambox> Dr_Willis : just asking cause the pack of dvd's costs like 30-40E here..
[12:29] <dreambox> Dr_Willis dont feel like paying that !
[12:29] <Dr_Willis> PsychoMario:  over 'serial' is the tricky part.. theres several ways to do serial connections
[12:29] <Semtex> where would be the best place to get help with "One or more of the mounts listed in /etc/fstab cannot yet be mounted:
[12:29] <Semtex> (ESC for recovery shell)
[12:29] <Semtex> swap: waiting for UUID=19ec2898-8e83-4b1c-9b8f-8790d42fd56a" error?
[12:29] <Dr_Willis> dreambox:  i use redundant stacks of external usb hard drives now.. DVDs are not worth the hassle for me any more
[12:29] <aanderse> anyone here ever use module-assistant to build their nvidia drivers?
[12:30] <Dr_Willis> dreambox:  for the cost of dvd media.. i can get a exteranl 1 tb hd..
[12:30] <detrix> Hello everyone.  upgraded to 9.10 a few days ago.  just realized, that I have no sound. I had sound with 9.04.  I am not sure why.
[12:30] <dreambox> Dr_Willis yeap totally.. so UNetbootin, Universal Netboot Installer .. is this what we want
[12:30] <DigitalShankar> hi tux friends
[12:30] <phixxor> is it save to enable the nvidia driver in jockey? or will it break the system again?
[12:30] <coz_> aanderse,  no  however you want to manually install the nvidia driver correct?
[12:30] <Dr_Willis> dreambox:  thas  a good tool to make a booteable flash drive..
[12:30] <Dr_Willis> dreambox:  the pendrivelinux.com site has other tools and guides.
[12:30] <aanderse> coz_: yeah i used module assistant to build version x, but now i want to use it to build version x
[12:30] <dreambox> so it should be a usb stick, not an external usb disk..
[12:31] <Subby83> Can anybody confirm, there is no way to install Karmic without home encryption when using a manual partioning?
[12:31] <aanderse> coz_: i don't know how to use module-assistant to specify the version it builds
[12:31] <PsychoMario> Dr_Willis: ive decided to do ppp to get networking on the windows box, then ill ssh over that ppp line with putty (?) with X forwarding enabled, and try to start an X program. Shame i can't try these things yet, i need my dad to order me another serial-usb
[12:31] <Dr_Willis> dreambox:   unetbootin i think can doit to external hd. but ive never done it that way
[12:31] <Dr_Willis> PsychoMario:  thats how it would be done basically.  and it will be nasty slow i imagine.. perhaps not very useable at all.
[12:31] <typhoon> phixxor: ok, cool. well at least you're not alone :)
[12:31] <PsychoMario> ill find out when i try :) thanks for the help
[12:31] <Balug> Hello, can i ask something. cause im a bit stuck :$
[12:31] <Dr_Willis> PsychoMario:  but  for windows.. you need a X server also.. not just putty. ie:  xming
[12:32] <phixxor> typhoon: I'm usually not anymore :P
[12:32] <thunderbird> hello
[12:32] <coz_> aanderse,  you need to be sure you have build-essential installed  then  download the nvidia driver .sh install pacakge    ctrl+alt+F1   log in     server gdm stop    ..I believe... cd to location of driver...sudo NVIDIA........sh  pacakge  ..answer yes to all questions then reboot
[12:32] <woble> shite "desktop effects could not be enabled"
[12:32] <PsychoMario> i can't remember how i did it before, ill look into it. i just need to find out how to get ubuntu to listen on the serial and give the ppp connection...
[12:32] <thunderbird> I'd need some help with that too (Desktop effects)
[12:32] <woble> upgraded from jaunty to Karmic thunderbird?
[12:32] <[OpenSys]> hello, i upgrade to the new 9.10 and now my snd-emu10k1 was a sound very metalic, like digital sound when is playing. As i can solve this ?
[12:32] <Balug> Cause im having a problem with wubi.. When I reboot, and i select Ubuntu it says No Wubildr.. does someone know how to fix that. or what is wrong?
[12:32] <thunderbird> yes
[12:32] <coz_> thunderbird,  make sure your video drivers are installed properly
[12:33] <woble> thunderbird intel 965?
[12:33] <thunderbird> I have a Radeon 9600
[12:33] <Halabund> Since I upgraded to Karmic from Jaunty, DNS lookups are unbearably slow when I connect through the university's VPN (I need to do that to access the internet).  This makes Karmic almost unusable.  Does anyone have any idea how to fix it?  I've been already trying for 3 days now, and wasted many hours googling for a solution, but still couldn't fix it.
[12:33] <woble> coz_ there are no proprietary drivers in the list for me
[12:33] <woble> Halabund disable Ipv6
[12:33] <coz_> woble,   you have intel then?
[12:33] <thunderbird> I've tried both fglrx and the radeon driver, but it doesn't show up in the proprietary drivers for me either
[12:33] <LSD|Ninja> when the installer says its "configuring apt", what is it doing exactly, "apt-get update" ot whatever? In other words, if you're on a slow network connection it'll take forever and six days?
[12:33] <woble> coz_ yes, intel 965
[12:33] <darrenoc> hey guys can anyone give me a quick recommendation on whether to go 64bit or 32bit for karmic
[12:33] <coz_> Compiz requires at least a Radeon 7000 (or M6). From the 7000 to the X1950, you can use the open source "radeon" driver. All cards newer than the X1950 must use the proprietary "fglrx" driver.
[12:34] <jrib> darrenoc: how much ram do you have?
[12:34] <darrenoc> i have a core 2 duo but always go 32bit anyway
[12:34] <darrenoc> jrib 2gb
[12:34] <Dr_Willis> darrenoc:  if the machine can handle 64bit.. use 64bit. :)
[12:34] <Halabund> woble, how would I do that?  The method I tried didn't help (comment #30 I think from https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/417757 )
[12:34] <twisted-ferrett> ello can anyone help me with a desktop problem on 9.10 please IM me
[12:34] <Subby83> Has anybody managed it to install karmic without home encryption?
[12:34] <sdfsd> Do i bother upgrading to 9.10 ? there that many new features is it stables ?
[12:34] <darrenoc> compatibility issues???
[12:34] <Dr_Willis> darrenoc:  i use all 64bit on my home lan now.
[12:34] <Halabund> woble, (not sure it's #30, it takes ages to load any page from any new domain)
[12:34] <Dr_Willis> darrenoc:  not very many thsat ive seen.
[12:34] <spiritof76> darnoc I wouldn't go 64 bit with ubuntu
[12:34] <coz_> sdfsd,   9.10  is passable
[12:34] <jrib> darrenoc: you don't really need 64bit then, but 64bit issues are pretty much non-existant now...
[12:34] <spiritof76> firefox flash don't work real well
[12:34] <PsychoMario> i don;t have encryption... i got an option in the installation process, i chose no
[12:34] <darrenoc> will I see a performance boost
[12:34] <coz_> sdfsd,   you get new libraires  and stuff but booting is ugly and messy in my opinion
[12:35] <Halabund> woble, No, I tried comment #32.  Is that the right way to do it?
[12:35] <darrenoc> I develop in Java and C++.. im told il see better performance
[12:35] <Dr_Willis> darrenoc:  for my video encoding - yes - i do see a boost
[12:35] <detrix> I am thinking of going back to 9.04
[12:35] <Balug> I'm having a problem with wubi.. When I reboot, and i select Ubuntu it says No Wubildr.. does someone know how to fix that. or what is wrong?
[12:35] <dj_> hey guys this is my screnn resolution how to fix this http://www.pastebin.ca/1650363
[12:35] <Subby83> PsychoMario: did you use manuell partitioning?
[12:35] <darrenoc> what about general usage?
[12:35] <phixxor> jrib: well almost non-existant :P
[12:35] <thunderbird> so you're saying I should use the fglrx driver?
[12:35] <PsychoMario> Subby83: nope, just the defaults
[12:35] <sdfsd> coz_, i thought they said there would be boot speed up ?
[12:35] <dj_> jrib:this is my screnn resolution how to fix this http://www.pastebin.ca/1650363
[12:35] <Dr_Willis> darrenoc:  if the pc is idling at 1% cpu ussage 99% of the time.. does it matter. :)
[12:35] <Eyesis> hi, my amarok why can't play songs? (karmic)
[12:35] <twisted-ferrett> hello can anyone help me with a desktop image problem on 9.10 please IM me if the can
[12:35] <jrib> !fixres > dj_
[12:35] <Subby83> PsychoMario: I am using manuell and there isno option :(
[12:36] <jrib> !pm | twisted-ferrett
[12:36] <krishna> How do i forward ports for my deluge torrent client ??????????????????
[12:36] <spiritof76> sdfsd 9.10 works real good or most people
[12:36] <darrenoc> ok maybe I'l try it
[12:36] <Balug> I'm having a problem with wubi.. When I reboot, and i select Ubuntu it says No Wubildr.. does someone know how to fix that. or what is wrong?
[12:36] <darrenoc> is there anything else I need to think about I might be forgetting
[12:36] <darrenoc> or just go ahead and install
[12:36] <phixxor> krishna: that usually depends on your rounter, not your os
[12:36] <PsychoMario> Subby83: oh, i havnt used manual for ages, i cant really be bothered to set it up :) i just let it choose for itself
[12:36] <babak> when i want install mercurial from synaptic this error show http://paste.ubuntu.com/305852/  what do i have to do?
[12:36] <Tiders> Do you think that a tablet that says it only supports Windows OSs would work on Ubuntu?
[12:36] <krishna> phixxor, ?
[12:37] <twisted-ferrett> i have installed 9.10 and cannot change the background from black to any kind of image can anyone help please
[12:37] <sdfsd> ok , I upgrade .. how much free space i need i only have 2 gb left on my hard drive this enough ?
[12:37] <dj_> jrib:this  :http://www.pastebin.ca/1650368  så ser ut min xorg  this is my xorg i upgraded to 9.10 now my graphic card is not working
[12:37] <PsychoMario> krishna: http://portforward.com/
[12:37] <Subby83> PsychoMario: I was afraid that my home is too small so I wanted to set it on my own
[12:37] <russss> hi, I've just upgraded from Jaunty to Karmic and the sound is broken (again). I've tried the usual steps to try and diagnose it, but it's got me stumped. (the underlying device works fine, it's a pulseaudio issue)
[12:37] <spiritof76> darranoc are you upgrading or new install
[12:37] <Halabund> woble, how can I disable IPv6?
[12:37] <krishna> phixxor, in xp, i got proper portforwarding without configuring any. but here it always says "no incoming connections"
[12:37] <darrenoc> spiritof76 new install, im on Mint at the moment
[12:37] <jrib> babak: you've mixed repositories or installed .deb's manually not intended for your version of ubuntu
[12:37] <Dr_Willis> Tiders:  'only supports' is missleading...
[12:37] <krishna> PsychoMario, my modem is not listed there :( what shall i do now ?
[12:37] <Tiders> Dr_Willis, What do you mean?
[12:37] <ntnrozen> ok, it took me some time to notice, but i got no Sound!, is it possible to fix that?
[12:37] <[OpenSys]> i put the new 9.10 and now my snd-emu10k1 was a sound very metalic, like digital sound when is playing. As i can solve this ?
[12:38] <PsychoMario> krishna: i dont have any expierience with modems
[12:38] <Thihi> Hmmm. Does anyone have any idea why ubiquity in Karmic doesn't show me my /dev/sdb (eventho gparted does)?
[12:38] <Dr_Willis> Tiders:  its all intel/normal hardware .. dont expect to call the company 1-800# and get any support.
[12:38] <phixxor> krishna: there are ways computers get around router port forwarding, such as upnp, but port forwarding will definitely work in ubuntu
[12:38] <LSD|Ninja> [OpenSys]: open your PC, take out the BSLive, grab an axe and smash it :P
[12:38] <babak> jrib: now how can install mercurial?
[12:38] <spiritof76> damaroc I did upgrade from 9.04 went real smooth
[12:38] <thunderbird> also, I just noticed my soundcard has stopped working. this new release seems to be kinda buggy, no?
[12:38] <Eyesis> please help me in amarok
[12:38] <phixxor> krishna: google search for deluge port forwarding, and you'll probably find a good guide
[12:38] <Thihi> sdb is my boot disk and has my current grub2 along with two partitions with windows and karmic beta installed.
[12:38] <Tiders> Dr_Willis, Are there any tablets supported in Ubuntu?
[12:38] <krishna> phixxor, ok..
[12:39] <Dr_Willis> Tiders:  ive seen web sites selling linux tablets.. so Yes.
[12:39] <phixxor> krishna: don't worry, it's usually pretty easy!
[12:39] <sdfsd> hah does anyones sound card work after an upgrade?
[12:39] <[OpenSys]> LSD|Ninja, no... i love this card, in old versions it works
[12:39] <obg_> Hi, does anybody know whether it will be possible to upgrade straight from Hardy Heron LTS to Lucid Lynx LTS?
[12:39] <krishna> phixxor, i like deluge more than transmission... deluge has good gui :P
[12:39] <anatolich> URGENT! Need help with GRUB2 during Karmic installation! Please!
[12:39] <Tiders> Dr_Willis, Any chance you could point me to any... Im not looking for an artist one just for note taking
[12:39] <Dr_Willis> sdfsd:  i always do clean installs
[12:39] <ntnroz> do you guys all have sound? (hp pavilion)
[12:39] <Subby83> Dr_Willis: you were right, the option was "Use password for login and accessing the home directory"
[12:39] <LSD|Ninja> [OpenSys]: heh, every Creative PCI card has sucked in one way or another
[12:39] <Dr_Willis> Tiders:  id have to say hit google  i recall some site with '76' in the name that had linux machines
[12:39] <Dr_Willis> Subby83:  :) thats a tad missleading I guess...
[12:39] <Halabund> Since I upgraded to Karmic from Jaunty, DNS lookups are unbearably slow (15-30 sec) when I connect through the university's VPN (I need to do that to access the internet).  This makes Karmic almost unusable.  Does anyone have any idea how to fix it?  I've been already trying for 3 days now, and wasted many hours googling for a solution, but still couldn't fix it.
[12:40] <phixxor> krishna: heh, transmission is my favorite, but I haven't tried deluge yet.
[12:40] <PsychoMario> Subby83: the default settings for me are: 8.65Gb swap, 289.44Gb /
[12:40] <krishna> phixxor, mm! ok
[12:40] <Semtex> right somehow I've made my filesystem readonly
[12:40] <Subby83> Dr_Willis; Yes, I thought without this option, the enrypted directory is accessed without password, and not that it isn't encrypted ;)
[12:41] <krishna> phixxor, do you know a way to check whether port is forwarded or not ??
[12:41] <[JackD]> PsychoMario: if you ever had to use 8.65gb of swap space you machine would be slow as hell
[12:41] <frostburn> Halabund, use a different dns server
[12:41] <Thihi> Gnaaaa, this is driving me crazy :P Damn ubiquity.
[12:41] <Semtex> anyone how how I can make it writeable again?
[12:41] <aaron11> Hello I have a burnt DVD disc and I want to upgrade from it. Does anyone here know how to upgrade from a DVD disc. Thank You!
[12:41] <Dr_Willis> Subby83:  doing an install in virtualbox. and i dident even notice that option
[12:41] <thunderbird> Semtex, try a chown
[12:41] <PsychoMario> [JackD]: that was the default, i dont do manual partitioning
[12:41] <thunderbird> recursive, and target /
[12:42] <phixxor> krishna: sometimes bittorrent clients will let you do that in the preferences... otherwise I saw a connection-checker-torrent on the internet a while back -- you could try searching for that
[12:42] <[JackD]> better to have more ram and no swap ;)
[12:42] <cheery> gah, after all I have troubles with nvidia drivers. :(
[12:42] <caio> why my gnome-panel is so ugly now? http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/1355/karmicgnomepanel.png
[12:42] <Subby83> Dr_Willis: But it is the default (encryption), probably it is in te final only, you said you used beta
[12:42] <phixxor> krishna: to actually set up port forwarding you need to log into your router, and that's what you'd need a guide for
[12:42] <obg_> Semtex, word of warning though, some directories need to be owned by root. So if you do a recursive chown on the entire system, you'll eventuallt get error messages.
[12:42] <torjehoa> Anyone who can help me with mounting an isofile, please?
[12:42] <lavish> hi all! Is there anyone using remastersys on karmic? I'd like to be sure if it's supposed to work or not
[12:42] <obg_> Hi, does anybody know whether it will be possible to upgrade straight from Hardy Heron LTS to Lucid Lynx LTS?
[12:42] <saleem> how can install winrar
[12:43] <cheater99> hi guys
[12:43] <phixxor> torjehoa: usually it's "sudo mount -o loop isofile.iso"
[12:43] <jrib> !rar > saleem
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> Subby83:  i am using final iso in virualboxx and dident see the option. I did how tell it to automatcally partition the drive.. so that may bypass the question
[12:43] <spiritof76> what is safe way to run fsck ?
[12:43] <krishna> phixxor, i entered my ip address in firefox. it asked for password and username.. i entered both.. then a page appeared.. but it had no word called "port forward" :(
[12:43] <cheater99> i have just run the update manager and it has a HUGE list of updates. some of them are deselected and i can't select them. why is that?
[12:43] <jrib> babak: well did you do any of the things I mentioned?
[12:43] <Bodsda> Hi, I'm running Jaunty with dual monitors. After about 20 - 30 minutes my screens go black, like a screen saver or a power saving mode. How can I stop this or find out whats causing it? I don't think it is a setting on the monitors, I think it is a configuration issue
[12:43] <babak> jrib: no
[12:44] <Semtex> ok what the hell has happend?
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> Bodsda:  thers the screen savers AND theres  the power savers.. check both the settings for them.
[12:44] <thunderbird> Krishna, it might be called port triggering, forwarding, on something along these lines
[12:44] <phixxor> krishna: it's labeled differently for many rounters.. I think mine was under security settings or something
[12:44] <babak> jrib: i can't understand your mean
[12:44] <thunderbird> and yes, its location may also differ
[12:44] <Semtex> I done a distro upgrade and now eveything is read-only?!?!
[12:44] <penthief> I've just upgraded and my laptop can barely startup without freezing. Anyone else with this problem?
[12:44] <jrib> babak: pastebin the following: 1) the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list* 2) the result of « sudo apt-get update && apt-cache policy python mercurial »
[12:44] <Balug> I'm having a problem with wubi.. When I reboot, and i select Ubuntu it says No Wubildr.. does someone know how to fix that. or what is wrong?
[12:44] <Bodsda> Dr_Willis: cheers - I have changed monitor sleep from 40 mins to never. Hope this works, cheers dude
[12:44] <phixxor> penthief: could you describe your problem?
[12:45] <wsch> can somebody help me get grub working? i get no error whatsoever because it allmost immediately gives me itc CLI
[12:45] <spiritof76> is fsck safe to run ?
[12:45] <Halabund> Since I upgraded to Karmic from Jaunty, DNS lookups are unbearably slow (15-30 sec) when I connect through the university's VPN (I need to do that to access the internet).  Is anyone else seeing this problem? This makes Karmic practically unusable.  Does anyone have any idea how to fix it?  I've been already trying for 3 days now, and wasted many hours googling for a solution, but still couldn't fix it.
[12:45] <Dr_Willis> Bodsda:  i noticed befor it would kick in the screen saver.. id wiggle mouse.. then it would power down the monitor. :)  it can be weird
[12:45] <penthief> phixxor, when it boots, I get prompted for the keyring password, then it fails after connecting to Wifi
[12:45] <wsch> im unable to install linux.... this has NEVER happened before
[12:45] <krishna> phixxor, i dont have a static ip.. so it will come ?
[12:45] <Semtex> anybody know what the '/tmp: waiting for (null)' error i get on bootup is?
[12:45] <[OpenSys]> LSD|Ninja, solved... i was instaled a new mixer and removed the digital output
[12:45] <Bodsda> Dr_Willis: haha, that would be irritating.
[12:45] <torjehoa> phixxor: yes, I've gotten that far but that only makes it accessible for root, ownership of the directory changed to user #400... so I cant access it without being root
[12:46] <ntnroz> does anyone here got audio issues? i got no errors, but also - no sound
[12:46] <krishna> phixxor, a DSL router i have from nokia siemens
[12:46] <Tiders> Dr_Willis, Do you think Wacom (the biggest tablet manufacturer) would work on Linux?
[12:46] <cheater99> guys why are there items in my update manager that i can't select? what does this mean?
[12:46] <phixxor> krishna: sorry, what about a static ip?
[12:46] <Guest28961> fgt you here?
[12:46] <shredder12> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1307643  some help plz...
[12:46] <Subby83> Bye everybody
[12:46] <penthief> phixxor, fails as in screen freezes and nothing works except a hard reboot
[12:46] <smacfarl> help! After installing 9.10 on a dual boot system I load into the grub2 command console. What went wrong?
[12:46] <phixxor> penthief: your whole computer fails?
[12:46] <babak> jrib: this is sources.list   http://paste.ubuntu.com/305867/
[12:47] <aaron11> Hello I have a burnt DVD disc and I want to upgrade from it. Does anyone here know how to upgrade from a DVD disc. Thank You!
[12:47] <krishna> phixxor, but i saw a similar in portforward.com ... but the screenshot there has some options underwhich one can find portforwarding.......... for my, it is not showing that at all.. i have checked all in that page..
[12:47] <PsychoMario> what has replaced /etc/inittab in 9.10?
[12:47] <diddy> Where can I download the alternate CD for Ubuntu 9.10? I want the one that allows full OS encryption. I can only find the normal Desktop ISO.
[12:47] <Sagaci> aaron11: it needs to be an alternative install disc
[12:47] <rohdef> is there some useful tools for dual monitoring?
[12:47] <Guest28961> anyone else about for help plz?
[12:47] <Sagaci> aaron11: alternate*
[12:48] <Semtex> hey guys I have a question, if I install a 64-bit distro if ubuntu can I still use all the 32-bit apps?
[12:48] <Sagaci> !ask | Guest28961
[12:48] <Dr_Willis> rohdef:  for what exactly?
[12:48] <phixxor> torjehoa: where are you mounting it? could you post the command?
[12:48] <ntnroz> so i'm the first one to have audio issues
[12:48] <aaron11> Sagaci: How do I get an Alternate DISC
[12:48] <Halabund> Is it possible to automatically downgrade to Jaunty from Karmic, or is a complete reinstall needed?
[12:48] <ntnroz> heh
[12:48] <ebouza_> Does anyone know how to report that the keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com is not responding to request
[12:48] <Bodsda> Semtex: yes, but most have 64bit versions
[12:48] <Dr_Willis> Semtex:  i do here. :) thers a few apps that dont work.. but i can only think of 1. :)
[12:48] <babak> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/305869/
[12:48] <rohdef> eg. I would like to set monitor 1 as workspace 1 and monitor 2 as workspace 2
[12:48] <penthief> phixxor, I don't have the problem when ctrl-fX-ing to a terminal. But when I switch to gnome it suddenly fails. I've just killed compiz disabled a dozen services, uninstalled a bunch of networking apps, and unplugged my mouse. Just about working but with no title bars now.
[12:48] <shredder12> etc->grub.d has only 20_memtest script .... is it normal??
[12:48] <PsychoMario> rohdef: no can do i dont think
[12:48] <Guest28961> fgt was helping me to revove a ipv6 (or something) but hes gone offline and im new to ubuntu and dont know what the hell im doing!
[12:48] <Sagaci> aaron11: Bittorrent etc
[12:48] <shredder12> or should it have more scripts??
[12:48] <krishna> what command must i enter to find my ip address ?
[12:48] <speedhunt3r> guys ubuntu 9.10, does anyone see the update notifier icon ever? i haven't seen it on the panel yet
[12:48] <Dr_Willis> shredder12:   i got about 6 scripts in there here.
[12:49] <jrib> babak: lsb_release -c
[12:49] <PsychoMario> krishna: ifconfig
[12:49] <atmaslo27> is anyone using a 'NVidia GeForce 9100 m G'... is the new NVidia rest. driver better than the last???
[12:49] <rohdef> PsychoMario, bummer
[12:49] <shredder12> Dr_Willis: I just installed Ubuntu 9.10 and couldn't find an option to boot into ubuntu in grub
[12:49] <aaron11> Sagaci: Can you give me the link to the torrent file?
[12:49] <rohdef> Dr_Willis, generally to enable more possibilities
[12:49] <phixxor> penthief: hmm, that's really strange! I don't know what it could be, but maybe someone else might
[12:49] <shredder12> Dr_Willis: I think its because of not grub scripts
[12:49] <babak> jrib: jaunty
[12:49] <pknight_> hey, just upgraded to 9.10 and having a hell of a time getting my remote to work :( - no /dev/lirc0 for hauppage TV card - used to work fine before upgrade . any ideas?
[12:49] <diddy> Where can I download the alternate CD for Ubuntu 9.10? I want the one that allows full OS encryption. I can only find the normal Desktop ISO.
[12:49] <saleem> all cam chat site not open in fire fox
[12:49]  * ebouza_ Does anyone know how to report that the keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com is not responding to request
[12:49] <aaron11> shredder12: Are you running LiveCD
[12:49] <Sagaci> aaron11: hold a tick
[12:50] <ntnroz> speedhunt3r: try update-manager -d in console
[12:50] <shredder12> aaron11: no, i did a full install
[12:50] <PsychoMario> rhodef: i have dual monitors, their just joined together to give me a large display, i think you can set them up as seperate X displays (so two people can log in at once) they are the only options on nvidia cards
[12:50] <[OpenSys]> atmaslo27, i have a GeForce 9500 GT e note some better performace
[12:50] <Dr_Willis> shredder12:  the update-grub command reads/runs those scripts to generate the proper /boot/grub/grub.cfg  -
[12:50] <aaron11> diddy: I have the same question too
[12:50] <krishna> PsychoMario, possible to show ip address alone plz?
[12:50] <rohdef> is there other advanced dual monitor settings that can be enabled? I would say there should be more settings, than to mirror displays or not to
[12:50] <jrib> babak: well why are your sources.list pointing to intrepid repos if you are running jaunty then?
[12:50] <phixxor> krishna: hmm, try looking under all the preferences/settings for port forwarding. It should be there somewhere
[12:50] <shredder12> Dr_Willis: ya, and that's why i can't even recover grub to solve the problem.... coz.. i don't have appropriate scripts
[12:50] <aaron11> shredder12: Try bazhang or Dr_Willis
[12:51] <Halabund> Is it possible to automatically downgrade to Jaunty from Karmic, or is a complete reinstall needed?
[12:51] <atmaslo27> OpenSys, I noticed its less buggy than the last one I used with Ubuntu 9.04. THanks for the input
[12:51] <jrib> Halabund: complete reinstall
[12:51] <[OpenSys]> krishna, ifconfig | grep "inet addr"
[12:51] <Dr_Willis> shredder12:  you could boot live cd.. chroot in, and reinstall the grub2 packages I guess... ive never had the issue. so im not sure of how to fix it
[12:51] <Halabund> jrib, thanks
[12:51] <Guest28961> :-(
[12:51] <aaron11> Sagaci: Give me the link please?
[12:51] <jrib> Halabund: well it's probably possible but completely unsupported and likely to cause frustration and hammer-wielding...
[12:51] <Sagaci> aaron11: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors#bt
[12:51] <shredder12> Dr_Willis: what packages do i need to install the scripts?? any clue??
[12:52] <Halabund> jrib, I've had enough of that, that's why I want to go back to Jaunty.  Reinstall then.
[12:52] <saleem> cam chat site not open
[12:52] <wsch> can someone help me find out why grub2 wont boot? this is the FOURTH day im trying to find help
[12:52] <rm200910_> Hello, I installed 9.10 today. used to have cups-pdf in ubuntu 9.04 to create/print to PDF files. The installation removed it. Is that because there is better/newer method? Thanks
[12:52] <PsychoMario> krishna: ifconfig | grep "inet addr:"
[12:52] <gnubie> Guest28961;    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1307259&highlight=ipv6     you might check here I haven't tried this myself
[12:52] <Dr_Willis> shredder12:  grub-pc perhaps
[12:52] <jrib> babak: do you understand?
[12:52] <penthief> I think I have the same problem as this person: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1306926
[12:52] <krishna> phixxor, no matter what number i set.. transmission preferences windows shows "port CLOSED" only ..   transmission cannot open ports by itself :P :P ??
[12:52] <shredder12> Dr_Willis: kk.. thanks 4 the advice i will try it out...
[12:53] <atmaslo27> have a good weekend everyone. out.
[12:53] <babak> jrib: yes myself change it
[12:53] <jrib> babak: ok, why?  You need to use jaunty repos if you are on jaunty
[12:53] <PsychoMario> how do i set up my ubuntu as a dial in server. for ppp connections
[12:53] <phixxor> krishna: yes, that's right. You have to open the port from your router, and then put that port number into transmission
[12:53] <speedhunt3r> ntnroz, i'm trying to make the icon notifier come back, not upgrade to karmic
[12:53] <dj_> jrib: i upgraded from 9.4 to 9.10 now my screen resoultion is 800 how to change this anyone who can assist me i am readin google it does not help
[12:53] <phixxor> krishna: you said you have a nokia siemens router?
[12:53] <Guest28961> gnubie: fgt was in the middle of helkping me out when he went off. still got my terminal open half done
[12:53] <krishna> phixxor, True
[12:53] <ntnroz> 3 issues for me, anyone that can help, : 1. touch pad not working 2. how do i reconfigure my Kgrub, as i used to from the Applications menu, until today 3. no audio!, and i don't get any errors, it seems like it's playing, from any media player, but no sound
[12:54] <Dr_Willis> PsychoMario:  i would check for that 'make your own isp howto'  I doubt if anyone in here will have done that. :)
[12:54] <krishna> phixxor, but it doesnt match with the one in portforward.com
[12:54] <pknight_> hey, just upgraded to 9.10 and having a hell of a time getting my remote to work :( - no /dev/lirc0 for hauppage TV card - used to work fine before upgrade . any ideas?
[12:54] <thunderbird> anybody know where to get a driver for an Intel integrated sound chip? Googling the HWID didn't bring up anything useful
[12:54] <dj_>  i upgraded from 9.4 to 9.10 now my screen resoultion is 800 how to change this anyone who can assist me i am readin google it does not help
[12:54] <phixxor> krishna: could you find the model number on it? Different models will probably have different settings
[12:54] <rohdef> is there any shortcuts to move a window from one monitor to another?
[12:54] <torjehoa> phixxor: sudo mount -o loop /home/torje/ISO/dreamfall/isofile.iso /media/isomounter/
[12:54] <MisterNutsack> in the irc, how do i change my status to "here" /away just sets it to "away"
[12:54] <ntnroz> speedhunt3r: oops, sorry :) i misunderstood you i guess
[12:54] <Dr_Willis> rohdef:  you can set such shortcuts in the gnome settings (keyboard shortcuts) i recall
[12:55] <krishna> phixxor, is model number = mac number ??
[12:55] <rohdef> Dr_Willis, thanks
[12:55] <frostburn> rohdef, ctrl alt arrow key
[12:55] <PsychoMario> Dr_Willis: ISPConfig ring a bell?
[12:55] <phixxor> krishna: no. mac number has to do with your network. your router should have the model number written on it somewhere, like nokia 1600 or something
[12:55] <krishna> phixxor, Nokia siemens networks. . .. residential router 1600 ......... rat8hg 12vdc  700 MA .............
[12:56] <krishna> phixxor, yes yes yes. it is .. residential router 1600
[12:56] <phixxor> torjehoa: that looks right. Maybe try mounting it to /media/cdrom0 if that's a possibility
[12:56] <MisterNutsack> anyone?
[12:56] <Dr_Willis> PsychoMario:  last i messed with pppd over serial was when i had my amiga.. 10+ yrs ago.. so No. :) not much about it rings any phone bells
[12:56] <iceroot> MisterNutsack: #freenode
[12:56] <Dr_Willis> PsychoMario:  you do have null-modem cable/adaptors right?
[12:56] <phixxor> krishna: ok -- can you search for port forwarding for that specific router model?
[12:56] <krishna> phixxor, ok.
[12:57] <dj_>  i upgraded from 9.4 to 9.10 now my screen resoultion is 800 how to change this anyone who can assist me i am readin google it does not help
[12:57] <cg> hello. any program for base64 coding ?
[12:57] <PsychoMario> Dr_Willis: yep, theyr behind me :)
[12:57] <jrib> dj_: use the specific instructions ubottu gave you
[12:57] <rohdef> frostburn, nopes that's workspaces, the word monitors was meant literally
[12:57] <MrStein> Any reason the shell history does not remember the cmd line " /usr/bin/totem file:///tmp/aruk-ar-ipv6-2.sdp"
[12:57] <dj_> jrib: i got diffrent card thats not working for me
[12:57] <MrStein> ?
[12:57] <jrib> dj_: the page isn't card-specific
[12:57] <MrStein> does the leading space bithers it?
[12:57] <MrStein> bothers
[12:57] <dj_> jrib: yes it is
[12:57] <jrib> dj_: no, it's not
[12:58] <torjehoa> phixxor: still permission denied when trying to access it as a user
[12:58] <iceroot> v_v: base64 --help
[12:58] <babak> jrib: for install mercurial j have to change sources.list
[12:58] <dj_> jrib: xrandr --output LVDS --mode 1024x768 it does not work for me
[12:58] <pat_> if i add a new drive will ubuntu pick up the drive and mount it? or will i have to edit fstabv?
[12:58] <wsg> Hi, can someone help me? My micorphone doesn't work :(
[12:58] <wsg> microphone
[12:58] <iceroot> pat_: automaticly
[12:58] <sampo> buy a new mic
[12:58] <v_v> iceroot , ok thanks
[12:58] <wsg> great....
[12:58] <dj_> jrib: xrandr --output LVDS --mode 1024x768 it does not work for me
[12:58] <jrib> babak: no, to have a working system you need to change your repositries to jaunty ones.  Once you do that, you should be able to install mercurial
[12:59] <cheater99> why are there items in my update manager that i can't select? what does this mean?
[12:59] <dj_> jrib: xrandr --output LVDS --mode 1024x768 it does not work for me
[12:59] <pat_> @ iceroot: thanks
[12:59] <Dynetrekk> is there a way to virus scan a winXP partition when booting from an Xubuntu partition? e.g. with clam or something like that?
[12:59] <wsg> alsa isnt't well configuredf
[12:59] <Dr_Willis> MrStein:  the history feature has options to rember all lines, or changed lines, or other settings.. it could be its seeing an earlier history entry. so not rembering that one.
[12:59] <dj_> jrib: xrandr --output LVDS --mode 1024x768 it does not work for me
[12:59] <jrib> dj_: because you are blindly copying an example command instead of READING and UNDERSTANDING
[12:59] <wsg> in my opinion
[12:59] <jrib> dj_: and I don't need you to repeat things over and over until I respond...
[12:59] <PsychoMario> Dr_Willis: I can't find anything, except this: http://developers.sun.com/solaris/technotes/linuxppp.html
[12:59] <Dr_Willis> Dynetrekk:  there are AV software for linux you can install that can scan windows machines.
[12:59] <phixxor> torjehoa: that is really odd! What if you tried making a new folder in your user directory and mounting it there?
[12:59] <wsg> which is the command to configure alsa? there isn't alsaconfig  in 9.10
[12:59] <Dr_Willis> PsychoMario:  check tldp.org the 'howtos'
[12:59] <MrStein> Dr_Willis: no. I just tried " echo foo" and that is not remembered either. This is a plain Live Ubuntu 9.04 CD
[12:59] <ntnroz> i'm asking again, about that i don't have audio at all, you all have sound, right?
[13:00] <Dynetrekk> Dr_Willis: on the same disk, different partition?
[13:00] <phixxor> torjehoa: I'm sorry if you've already tried all this already
[13:00] <Dr_Willis> MrStein:  could be history is disabled..
[13:00] <Dynetrekk> Dr_Willis: any recommendations on software? Clam?
[13:00] <babak> jrib: i test with first repositries but it say not command find
[13:00] <MrStein> Dr_Willis: no, other cmds are remembered.
[13:00] <Dr_Willis> Dynetrekk:  yes.. you can use it to scan anything you can access...
[13:00] <dual> After upgrading to 9.10 my NTFS external drive wont mount. Can you help?
[13:00] <jrib> babak: show me what you actually did.  I don't understand what you just said
[13:00] <Dynetrekk> Dr_Willis: great, thanks, I'll try after installing xubuntu
[13:00] <Dr_Willis> MrStein:  check the history options I guess..
[13:00] <dj_> jrib: this is my xrand http://www.pastebin.ca/1650398
[13:00] <Sagaci> dual: won't mount or won't mount automatically
[13:00] <wsch> can someone help me find out whats wrong with grub? it boots into its CLI and doesnt give me any error
[13:00] <jrib> dj_: yeah...?
[13:00] <wsch> that imfast enough to read antyway
[13:00] <krishna> phixxor, thankyou for guiding.!
[13:00] <pat_> anyone seen totem crash when trying to play an avi?
[13:01] <dual> Sagaci, wont mount
[13:01] <Asad2005> I have made a fresh install and have the old user .evolution which i copied over new user .evolution but that did not bring old settings and mail? Please help
[13:01] <dj_> jrib: how to change it
[13:01] <babak> jrib: now how can i solve this problem ?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/305880/
[13:01] <Balug> Can someone help me,  after installing Wubi he says: No Wubildr
[13:01] <jrib> dj_: use the instructions in ubottu's link but actually read what it says between commands
[13:01] <phixxor> krishna: no problem -- did you get it working?
[13:01] <jrib> dj_: hint: you don't have LVDS but you have something else
[13:01] <dual> Sagaci, in gparted there's a warning sign next to /dev/sdb1 which is my external disk
[13:01] <krishna> is downloading the alternate.iso and mounting the same to upgrade to 9.10 is same as using update manager ????? because i have friends who do not have a internet connection... any suggestions ?
[13:01] <jrib> babak: did you change your repositories yet?  What is your new sources.list?
[13:02] <torjehoa> phixxor: still permission denied, the odd thing is that directory owner id is changed to 400
[13:02] <krishna> phixxor, no. but i'll .. later  /thanks
[13:02] <Dr_Willis> krishna:  in theory yes.
[13:02] <Electric|Master> When I installed Windows 7, it overwrote GRUB. Now I can't access Ubuntu. How do I fix this?
[13:02] <Balug> Guys; Why am i getting No Wubildr?
[13:02] <krishna> krishna, in practice ?
[13:02] <wsch> can someone help me find out whats wrong with grub? it boots into its CLI and doesnt give me any error
[13:02] <Dr_Willis> !fixgrub | Electric|Master
[13:02] <dj_> jrib: http://www.pastebin.ca/1650368  can you tell me what to do here
[13:02] <phixxor> torjehoa: so when you try to mount the iso, it changes the permissions?
[13:02] <Dr_Willis> !grub2
[13:02] <ntnroz> i\ve go a hp pavilion dv-6*, no sound for me, and i guess no hp support for linux, is it a known issue, and should be fixed soon? or did i miss something?
[13:02] <PsychoMario> Dr_Willis: i found one, but there is way too much stuff that i don't need. I jsut need the dialin bit
[13:02] <phixxor> krishna: alright. good luck!
[13:02] <Electric|Master> Thanks :)
[13:02] <Dr_Willis> PsychoMario:   this is when you read and learn. :)
[13:02] <jrib> dj_: nothing.  Read the link I gave you and pretend I typed it to you
[13:03] <lockd> hmm, I wonder why SDL is trying to use DGA mouse support
[13:03] <Balug> Does someone know Wubi a bit?
[13:03] <babak> jrib: i don't change it
[13:03] <jrib> babak: you need to change all the "intrepid" to "jaunty"
[13:03] <PsychoMario> Dr_Willis: Ok, could take a while...
[13:03] <iceroot> !wubu | Balug
[13:03] <iceroot> !wubi | Balug
[13:03] <Dr_Willis> PsychoMario:  you wanted a time waster. :) you got one.
[13:03] <torjehoa> phixxor: that is correct... and the odd thing is that it isn't even cahnging owner to root
[13:03] <dual> Sagaci, any ideas?
[13:03] <lockd> DGA mouse driver is broken with evdev
[13:03] <krishna> Dr_Willis, i first am needed to make aptoncd.iso with all updates of 9.04 from my computer... and then give him my new alternate.iso ?  then it will get proper upgradation ?
[13:03] <PsychoMario> Dr_Willis: well, yes :)
[13:03] <wsch> can someone help me find out whats wrong with grub? it boots into its CLI and doesnt give me any error.
[13:03] <Balug> iceroot: Well i got the No Wubildr error
[13:03] <dj_> jrib: xrandr --output VGA-0 --mode 1024x768
[13:04] <jetienne> !info ruby
[13:04] <dj_> jrib: xrandr --output VGA-0 --mode 1024x768 does not work
[13:04] <krishna> Dr_Willis, sorry for my english, i dont belong to an english speaking country
[13:04] <iceroot> !details | Balug
[13:04] <jrib> dj_: why are you trying VGA-0?
[13:04] <dj_> jrib: what to try
[13:04] <jrib> dj_: what your xrandr output listed
[13:04] <dj_> jrib: VGA1
[13:04] <jetienne> ruby 4.2 :)
[13:04] <phixxor> torjehoa: I think this problem is beyond me... the only thing I can think of is trying it with another iso image to see if your .iso is corrupt maybe
[13:05] <jrib> dj_: there you go...
[13:05] <dj_> xrandr --output VGA1 --mode 1024x768
[13:05] <dj_> xrandr: cannot find mode 1024x768
[13:05] <smacfarl> I installed 9.10 on a dual boot system, when booting into 9.10 I am launched into the grub2 console, what went wrong?
[13:05] <torjehoa> phixxor: ok, thank you for your time :)
[13:05] <krishna> torjehoa, i think there is some tool for checking md5sum.. did you do that frnd ?
[13:05] <jrib> dj_: so keep reading, the page ubottu gave you tells you how to add modes iirc.
[13:05] <ntnroz> i\ve go a hp pavilion dv-6*, no sound for me, and i guess no hp support for linux, is it a known issue, and should be fixed soon? or did i miss something?
[13:05] <phixxor> torjehoa: sure thing! Try searching the forums too -- this might have happened to someone else too
[13:06] <Balug> Im having a problem with Wubi Rev 160 [or actually all.] Im running windows 7, and i wanna use Wubi next to that. When Wubi wants me to reboot. i got no errors. but when i get into my bootloader and i select ubuntu i get: "Try hd(0,0): NTFS5: No wubildr" and stops working.
[13:06] <rm200910> Hello, I installed 9.10 today. used to have cups-pdf in ubuntu 9.04 to create/print to PDF files. The installation removed it. Is that because there is better/newer method? Thanks
[13:06] <krishna> Dr_Willis, are you not there ??? is my way ok ? if not, my frnd will kil me.. so plz ?
[13:06] <dj_> xrandr --addmode S-video 1024x768
[13:06] <dj_> xrandr: cannot find output "S-video"
[13:06] <torjehoa> krishna: no, I havn't ... meybe I should....
[13:06] <wsch> can someone help me find out whats wrong with grub? it boots into its CLI and doesnt give me any error.
[13:06] <saleem> any one help abut install paltak in ubuntu
[13:06] <jrib> dj_: because S-video isn't the name of your output......
[13:06] <dj_> jrib: is it vga1
[13:06] <jrib> dj_: what did you realize last time you saw that error?
[13:07] <jrib> dj_: right
[13:07] <krishna> torjehoa, http://portableapps.com/apps/utilities/winmd5sum_portable if you are in windows os
[13:07] <pechenie> hi, is there any ATI R500 (X1xxx) user on Karmic?
[13:07] <dj_> jrib: xrandr --addmode VGA1 1024x768
[13:07] <dj_> xrandr: cannot find mode "1024x768
[13:07] <iceroot> !anyone | pechenie
[13:07] <PsychoMario> Dr_Willis: i'm following a tutorial/howto, but it asks for /etc/inittab. now i know that isnt used anymore. what has replaced it?
[13:07] <Dr_Willis> krishna:  i never bother with the cd's to upgrade my systems.. I think the alternative installer cd can work as an  'upgrade'  repository. but ive never used it as that.. the desktop cd can NOT work as a upgrade-repository
[13:07] <Balug> Im having a problem with Wubi Rev 160 [or actually all.] Im running windows 7, and i wanna use Wubi next to that. When Wubi wants me to reboot. i got no errors. but when i get into my bootloader and i select ubuntu i get: "Try hd(0,0): NTFS5: No wubildr" and stops working. Does someone know how i can solve this?
[13:07] <jrib> dj_: keep reading
[13:07] <Dr_Willis> PsychoMario:  Not sure :) depends on what its trying to do.
[13:07] <torjehoa> krishna: I think I just use md5sum filetobechecked :)
[13:08] <krishna> Dr_Willis, i know that we should not use desktop cd...... but my question was different...
[13:08] <wsch> can someone help me find out whats wrong with grub? it boots into its CLI and doesnt give me any error.
[13:08] <Dr_Willis> PsychoMario:  if its wanting to start things for the serial ports you may want /etc/init/*
[13:08] <phixxor> krishna: Dr_Willis : the alternate cd _can_ be used to upgrade -- just make sure you download the correct one for your system
[13:08] <PsychoMario> Dr_Willis: "S1:2345:respawn:/sbin/mgetty ttyS1" it runs/respawnd the mgetty prog
[13:08] <jetienne> so how stable is the 9.10 ?
[13:08] <Dr_Willis> PsychoMario:  make a new entry/file in /etc/init/  like shown for the other consoles..
[13:08] <dj_> jrib: i dont understand this section There are several ways to make xrandr customizations permanent from session to session: a) .xprofile, b) kdm/gdm, c) xorg.conf. Each of these mechanisms will be discussed in turn
[13:08] <smacfarl> ANyhelp with grub2? Anyone?
[13:08] <BlouBlou> jetienne: totally
[13:08] <krishna> phixxor, ok.. before giving my frnd alternate 9.10.iso. i should give him all updates till date in 9.04.. right ?
[13:08] <iceroot> !anyone | smacfarl
[13:09] <krishna> phixxor, or is this step not needed ?
[13:09] <jrib> jetienne: once it's released, it's stable.  i.e. no more non-security related changes
[13:09] <PsychoMario> Dr_Willis: so; ttyS0.conf?
[13:09] <Dr_Willis> PsychoMario:  thats as good a name as any :)
[13:09] <jrib> dj_: you read too far ahead.  Read the line after the "addmode" command
[13:09] <Balug> iceroot: Im having a problem with Wubi Rev 160 [or actually all.] Im running windows 7, and i wanna use Wubi next to that. When Wubi wants me to reboot. i got no errors. but when i get into my bootloader and i select ubuntu i get: "Try hd(0,0): NTFS5: No wubildr" and stops working. Does someone know how i can solve this?
[13:09] <jetienne> jrib: i was thinking about bug fixing
[13:09] <phixxor> krishna: it's recommened, but I'm not sure if it's actually needed. That's a very good question to ask this channel!
[13:09] <PsychoMario> Dr_Willis: Thanks
[13:09] <D3RGPS31> i'm using the fglrx driver; 3D performance is perfect but 2D performance is aweful, video and window movement is extremely choppy; what can i do (ati r hd 4850, ubuntu 9.10 x86)
[13:09] <St0n3-C0l> Enjoying Xubuntu :)
[13:09] <St0n3-C0l> 9.10
[13:09] <jrib> jetienne: bugs.ubuntu.com and release notes are your best bet
[13:09] <wsch> i dont know whats wrong with my grub2, so can someone help me find out whats wrong with grub? it boots into its CLI and doesnt give me any error.
[13:09] <pechenie> i have activated KMS & DRI2 on my ATI X1600 and I finally got compiz working without any glitches, also there is finally native display resolution in TTY1-6, but there is a little bit performace loss. Is there further tips to "tune" opensource ATI radeon drivers?
[13:09] <jetienne> jrib: ok let me rephrase
[13:10] <dj_> jrib: i am done with that i adde moded
[13:10] <jrib> dj_: and were you able to change the mode now?
[13:10] <jetienne> q. how 9.10 release is going ?
[13:10] <geekk1d> guys need help please! I cant get my cube to rotate using my scroll button ?
[13:10] <blankhead> how do i enable automatic login in 9.10
[13:10] <phixxor> do you absolutely need to upgrade to the latest 9.04 packages before using the alternate cd to upgrade?
[13:10] <krishna> phixxor, even my update manager has 300+ mb of updates.. but its not updating.... after entering password.. it says "fix broken first" and in synaptic , it shows no broken packages to fix... now what say ?
[13:10] <cg> hello. any tool to convert between defferent base ? eg. i want to convert a string of hex like '61626361' to lettters
[13:10] <boomer84> Hey guys, that weird button with the square wavey icon on the bottom left of my keyboard isn't outputting anything when I try to assign it as a shortcut, anyone got any ideas?
[13:10] <St0n3-C0l> jetienne: Not really sure, how it's going but certainly for me Xubuntu 9.10 working well :) using livecd.
[13:10] <dj_> jrib: xorg.conf
[13:10] <sassyn> hi
[13:10] <jrib> cg: pick your favorite programming language?
[13:10] <jetienne> St0n3-C0l: ok
[13:10] <jrib> dj_: I asked a yes or no question...
[13:11] <ntnroz> HP doesn't have linux support, right?
[13:11] <St0n3-C0l> and on intel i810 :)
[13:11] <sassyn> does 9.10 support dom0 xen ?
[13:11] <bazhang> ntnroz, sure it does
[13:11] <St0n3-C0l> display is there, something which Kubuntu 9.10 RC missed it.
[13:11] <iceroot> ntnroz: depending on the hardware
[13:11] <dj_> jrib:yes
[13:11] <phixxor> krishna: try checking with the commandline: open terminal and type "sudo apt-get install -f" without the quotes
[13:11] <Dr_Willis> !info bc
[13:11] <iceroot> St0n3-C0l: use the final
[13:11] <pechenie> i have activated KMS & DRI2 on my ATI X1600 and I finally got compiz working without any glitches, also there is finally native display resolution in TTY1-6, but there is a little bit performace loss. Is there further tips to "tune" opensource ATI radeon drivers?
[13:11] <sassyn> I want to use 9.10 server as a DOM0
[13:11] <sassyn> with XEN can i?
[13:11] <iceroot> sassyn: yes
[13:11] <jrib> cg: bc should work if you want something in your shell too
[13:11] <krishna> phixxor, 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1343 not upgraded.
[13:11] <iceroot> sassyn: why not?
[13:11] <cg> jrib: that will be too much  :) i just want a short shell script or util
[13:12] <wsch> i dont know whats wrong with my grub2, so can someone help me find out whats wrong with grub? it boots into its CLI and doesnt give me any error.
[13:12] <sassyn> iceroot: casue the kernel musy xenable!
[13:12] <cba123> geekk1d, When you press the button, or when you scroll?  Install compizconfig-settings-manager or ccsm, and the option should be in there, they either call it button2 or button3 depending on your mouse.
[13:12] <phixxor> krishna: did you already start upgrading to 9.10?
[13:12] <sassyn> I don't know if it support it?
[13:12] <jrib> !repeat | wsch
[13:12] <geekk1d> cba123, when i scroll
[13:12] <iceroot> sassyn: there is xen-support until 2.6.18 imo
[13:12] <iceroot> sassyn: from
[13:12] <cg> jrib: thanks
[13:12] <krishna> NO .. i still have jaunty .... and downloading torrent alternate.iso
[13:13] <luca> !it
[13:13] <smacfarl> iceroot: Asked twice already. I installed 9.10 as dual boot. Rather than loading the grub2 menu when I select a created ubuntu option from easybcd, I end up in the grub2 console. Don't know how to use grub2 console. ls for example is an unrecognized command. Currently in live-cd looking at grub.cfg which looks ok, but doesn't explain why grub2 loads to console rather than menu.
[13:13] <sassyn> Yep, I know but it want to use 2.6.31.5 with xen based kernel
[13:13] <jrib> cg: echo 'obase=16; 12' | b
[13:13] <phixxor> krishna -- you shouldn't have that many packages waiting to be upgraded... I don't know why that happened
[13:13] <jrib> cg: echo 'obase=16; 12' | bc
[13:13] <krishna> phixxor, i always install updates daily
[13:14] <jrib> dj_: what don't you understand exactly about the other section?
[13:14] <iceroot> smacfarl: i dont scroll the whole channel to see if you asked a real question before. just always use a real question and not "does anyone..."
[13:14] <dj_> jrib:xrandr --addmode DVI-1  instead of dvi-1 i add vga1, but what is this dvi-0 do i get there vga-0
[13:14] <rohdef> is there a command to put the displays to sleep?
[13:14] <iceroot> smacfarl: also see #grub
[13:14] <grawity> rohdef: Try xset dpms force off
[13:14] <Dr_Willis> rohdef:  the xrandr command can do that also.. i think
[13:14] <blankhead> how do i enable automatic login in 9.10?
[13:14] <cba123> For some reason, my screen gets pixelated and I don't know why, seems to be some times when I play media, karmic nvidia 190 drivers, happened when I had jaunty and 185 drivers too http://imagebin.ca/view/HN8QHY.html
[13:14] <smacfarl> #grub
[13:14] <jrib> dj_: DVI-1 is the name of your display.  xrandr lists your displays
[13:14] <krishna> phixxor, but now, it says 380 mb to be updated... i enter your command and also entered autoremove command... but still update manager says "fix broken first" but i have no broken in synaptic
[13:14] <cg> jrib: it's ok if the num is lt 16
[13:14] <Dr_Willis> blankhead:  the gdm login manager config tool has a optiopn for that
[13:14] <jrib> cg: hmm?
[13:14] <rohdef> grawity, thanks :) I'll try
[13:14] <eross> ok I've read all the problems for karmic in the forums, anyone loving the new install? I'm still on 9.04
[13:14] <blankhead> dr_willis thank you
[13:15] <dj_> jrib:its vga1 but why in this example he does dvi-1 and dvi-0
[13:15] <rohdef> Dr_Willis, thanks I'll look into it if the first one doesn't work
[13:15] <penthief> OK, this 9.10 freezing showstopper bug: If I ctrl-fX to a terminal before the network-manager starts, and killall compiz.real then unlock the default keyring, then open a terminal and run compiz in the background, everything seems to work perfectly.
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> eross: been fine since Alpha2 here
[13:15] <jrib> dj_: because that's the name of his displays
[13:15] <sysrpl> good god my ubuntu installl has been a nightmare
[13:15] <boomer84> hey guys, my "windows" key doesnt seem to want to assign as a shortcut. Anyone got any ideas why this is? Just installed 9.10(ofc)
[13:15] <phixxor> krishna: could you check something for me? "less /etc/apt/sources.lst" and see if they say "jaunty"
[13:15] <iceroot> !bug | penthief
[13:15] <dj_> jrib: my displaed listed only vga1
[13:15] <D3RGPS31> i'm using the fglrx driver; 3D performance is perfect but 2D performance is aweful, video and window movement is extremely choppy; what can i do (ati r hd 4850, ubuntu 9.10 x86) xorg http://pastebin.com/m62b0aefc ; lspci http://pastebin.com/m25c231a3
[13:15] <jrib> dj_: because you have one display, sure
[13:15] <Tiders> boomer84, Most people refer to it as the "super" key just for future reference
[13:15] <Dr_Willis> boomer84:  because the windows key is a 'special' key. (aka super key) much like alt and ctrl.
[13:16] <rohdef> grawity, thanks, it works :)
[13:16] <boomer84> ahh ok, super key. Cheers.
[13:16] <cba123> geekk1d, You have to click the desktop or something first, that works when I click the desktop and scroll anyways.  Don't much like that feature myself though.
[13:16] <penthief> I thought it was called the 'inferior' key.
[13:16] <krishna> phixxor, hey. that command told "no such file or directory"
[13:16] <sysrpl> what is the best irc channel to complain about koala install issues?
[13:16] <Dr_Willis> compiz makes a lot of use of the super-key for its special features
[13:16] <smacfarl> iceroot: grub channel seems to be empty. How do I debug what is happening in grub2 console?
[13:16] <ct529> hi everybody! my firefox 3.0.14 and 3.5.3 have stopped automatically loading the live bookmarks when they start up .... is that normal????
[13:16] <Dr_Willis> sysrpl:  #/dev/null ? :)
[13:16] <sysrpl> because i grade the instal as a BIG FAT "F"
[13:16] <geekk1d> cba123, dont know mate that dose not work !
[13:16] <dj_> jrib: so i dont need to add this line xrandr --addmode DVI-0 "1680x1050_60.00" i mean vga-0
[13:16] <geekk1d> anybody else can help out!
[13:16] <Dr_Willis> sysrpl:  file bug reports is the best thing to do.
[13:16] <joaopinto> !ot | sysrpl
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> ct529: remove the plugin then re-add it
[13:16] <jrib> sysrpl: it would be better to document your issues as bugs on bugs.ubuntu.com if a bug doesn't exist yet
[13:16] <phixxor> krishna: sorry! it should be "less /etc/apt/sources.list"
[13:16] <St0n3-C0l> the concept of xorg.conf has been ended in 9.10 release or what?
[13:16] <UbuntuLove> !inxi
[13:17] <jrib> dj_: adding thaat line to the right file would work, yes
[13:17] <phixxor> krishna: this is the file that tells apt-get what upgrades to download
 is that a known issue?
[13:17] <boomer84> Dr_Willis, would I be able to assign it to launch the main menu still?
[13:17] <dj_> jrib: to my file
[13:17] <St0n3-C0l> because I don't find any xorg.conf in /etc/X11
[13:17] <Dr_Willis> St0n3-C0l:  its been getting phased out since 9.04  :)  i still have one in 9.10
[13:17] <jrib> dj_: to your proper file sure...
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> ct529: no idea, not something i use
[13:17] <St0n3-C0l> Oh
[13:17] <Tiders> St0n3-C0l, Are you using a Nvidia Driver?
[13:17] <St0n3-C0l> Nope :) Intel
[13:17] <Dr_Willis> boomer84:  no idea. I just use GNOME-DO and use that as a fast-launcher.. its better then the main-menu on windowskey any day
[13:17] <Dr_Willis> !info gnome-do
[13:17] <wsch> so since ubuntu uses grub2, i cannot get it booting anymore, im looking for a solution for 4 days, it would be nice if someone can actually try to help me
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[13:17] <Balug> Im having a problem with Wubi Rev 160 [or actually all.] Im running windows 7, and i wanna use Wubi next to that. When Wubi wants me to reboot. i got no errors. but when i get into my bootloader and i select ubuntu i get: "Try hd(0,0): NTFS5: No wubildr" and stops working. Does someone know how i can solve this?
[13:18] <Tiders> Dr_Willis, Really they are getting rid of xorg.conf?
[13:18] <ActionParsnip> ct529: i thought it sounded like an addon
[13:18] <cba123> geekk1d, You clicked the desktop and tried scrolling and nothing happened?  Does the cube work if you do ctrl+alt+click and drag?
[13:18] <phixxor> Tiders: yeah I think they are
[13:18] <Dr_Willis> Tiders:  its been getting smaller and smaler each release of X. many of my machines dont have one at all.
[13:18] <LucaFerrixman> Hi everybody...
[13:18] <boomer84> Dr_Willis: cheers, will have a look at that as well.
[13:18] <Dr_Willis> Tiders:  X auto-configures for the most part
[13:18] <LucaFerrixman> sorry, I have a big problem with Ubuntu Jaunty installation
[13:18] <LucaFerrixman> can someone help me please?
[13:18] <Tiders> Dr_Willis, Oh sounds good.. I still have one since I used nvidia-xconfig to get my dual display going
[13:18] <cwillu> !ask | LucaFerrixman
[13:19] <phixxor> LucaFerrixman: could you describe yoru problem for everyone?
[13:19] <cg> jrib: bc doesn't work with strings. it only takes care of numbers
[13:19] <jrib> cg: what do you mean by that?
[13:19] <Balug> Im having a problem with Wubi.Im running windows 7, and i wanna use Wubi next to that. When Wubi wants me to reboot. i got no errors. but when i get into my bootloader and i select ubuntu i get: "Try hd(0,0): NTFS5: No wubildr" and stops working. Does someone know how i can solve this?
[13:19] <krishna> phixxor, http://paste.ubuntu.com/305895/ here go
[13:19] <Dr_Willis> Tiders:  yep. Keep a copy of your nvidisa's xorg. configs handy for that :)
[13:19] <geekk1d> cba123, the cube works
[13:19] <bala> after upgrading to karmic on my dell 1525, i am unable to suspend/resume. anyone knows how to fix this?
[13:19] <dj_> jrib: its working now
[13:20] <jrib> dj_: great
[13:20] <phixxor> krishna: yeah they say karmic
[13:20] <Aeriel> Hi all! Anybody here is having troubleshoot with .avi reproduction after upgrading to karmic??
[13:20] <artcore> hi
[13:20] <artcore> @al
[13:20] <geekk1d> cba123, is just that it dose not rotate on scroll.
[13:20] <dj_> jrib:i think i will apply to oxford
[13:20] <LucaFerrixman> During set-up, the installer sees my HD as a single raid disk, even if I disabled it from BIOS. If I start the installer with the nomdraid option, the installer doesn't see my disks anymore
[13:20] <jrib> dj_: :)
[13:20] <phixxor> krishna: which means it thinks it's upgrading already
[13:20] <Pilif12p> hi, im trying to run cron on /usr/bin/pisg but it wont work
[13:20] <artcore> anybd have problems with ACPI in karmic?
[13:20] <cba123> geekk1d, Does the scrolling work when you click on the desktop?
[13:20] <mimis> hi, how can i set a static ip?
[13:20] <cwillu> LucaFerrixman, was it previously set up as a raid?
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> mimis: you can set it in network manager
[13:20] <Dr_Willis> !satic
[13:20] <dj_> jrib: do i need to make changes all time i log in or this one will be saved on xorg everytime i log in
[13:20] <Dr_Willis> !static
[13:21] <geekk1d> cba123, no unless i hold the scroll buton down
[13:21] <pechenie> hey! radeon R500 users!)) i have activated KMS & DRI2 on my ATI X1600 and I finally got compiz working without any glitches, also there is finally native display resolution in TTY1-6, but there is a little bit performace loss. Is there further tips to "tune" opensource ATI radeon drivers?
[13:21] <artcore> mimis ifconfig xx.xx.xx.xx. netmask xx.xx.xx.xx
[13:21] <phixxor> krishna: try opening the file in nano and changing every instance of "karmic" back to "jaunty"
[13:21] <jrib> dj_: if you followed the directions there on making it permanent, then you shouldn't have to do it every time you login
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> mimis: or you can use /etc/network/interfaces file and tis guide: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/setting-up-an-network-interfaces-file/
[13:21] <Aeriel> Hi all! Anybody here is having troubleshoot with .avi reproduction after upgrading to karmic??
[13:21] <wsch> so since ubuntu uses grub2, i cannot get it booting anymore, im looking for a solution for 4 days, it would be nice if someone can actually try to help me (like ive helped others)
[13:21] <phixxor> krishna: then run sudo apt-get update
[13:21] <wsch> this is getting extremely frustrating :(
[13:21] <Tiders> Dr_Willis, One thing I dont understand abotu Linux... Ubuntu supports so much hardware right off the bat and thats why so many people like it... Why dont OSs like Debian and CentOS try and support more as well?  Wouldnt that substantially increase their users?
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> wsch: you can install grub if you prefer
[13:22] <Dr_Willis> Tiders:  its all about the kernels supporting 'hardware' and then the various sub sustems doing things to actually make the  hardware useable.
[13:22] <phixxor> Tiders: one problem is many drivers aren't free software
[13:22] <LucaFerrixman> it was once set up as raid, but ever since I formatted it, and I was using Jaunty 'till today, no issues with it. If I start with nomdraid option in Karmic live session, GParted sees everything correctly
[13:22] <e204543> hi
[13:22] <Aquilai> Hi, how can I set shortcuts? I have compiz running but both compiz->commands and the "System->Preferences->Keyboard shortcuts" don't seem to let me set my shortcut for "gnome-terminal"
[13:22] <jrib> wsch: it's not that people don't want to help you, it's that they don't know how :)
[13:22] <Dr_Willis> Tiders:   with identical kernel/modules the same hardware is supported by each disrto in theory
[13:22] <Paraj> Ubuntu 9.10 (surprise surprise). StartUp-Manager doesn't actually set GRUB2 settings and running 'sudo update-grub' after modifying /etc/default/grub doesn't work either (saves to menu.lst not grub.cfg), how do I save my configuration Grub2?
[13:22] <Aquilai> Well they let me set it but pressing the shortcut won't work.
[13:22] <artcore> anyone have karmic works fine on Acer laptops?
[13:22] <jrib> wsch: why not just go back to the older grub?
[13:22] <cwillu> artcore, acer makes a lot of laptops
[13:22] <Dr_Willis> artcore:  acer makes a large varity of laptops. :)
[13:22] <wsch> ActionParsnip: ok how? i never had to do this before since all the other ubuntu's didnt have the crappy grub2 builtin
[13:22] <cwillu> artcore, works fine on mine, for what that's worth :p
[13:22] <Dr_Willis> the wife took my Netbook AAO.
[13:22] <Tiders> phixxor, True and I really love free software TO A POINT though... In my opinion proprietary is totally fine if its used for the companies own hardware.
[13:22] <wsch> jrib: even the people at #grub dunno how to help me
[13:22] <e204543> i'm new her
[13:23] <e204543> her
[13:23] <artcore> dr_willis acer 6930g
[13:23] <dj_> jrib: http://www.pastebin.ca/1650415  this is my xorg now
[13:23] <e204543> here
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> wsch: just instal it like you normally would
[13:23] <artcore> :)
[13:23] <phixxor> Tiders: I agree :)
[13:23] <joaopinto> !language | wsch
[13:23] <krishna> phixxor,  oh! ok,.
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> wsch: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[13:23] <artcore> cwillu which model u own?
[13:23] <wsch> ActionParsnip: ok then i better get any ubuntu before 9.10 and install that one from scratcvh, thats how i do it normally
[13:23] <Tiders> phixxor, Meh all those other distributions are just stubborn xD
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> wsch: install grub from the repos then run the usual commands to install grub to the mbr
[13:23] <jrib> dj_: ubottu's page gave you other methods to "save" your resolution
[13:23] <protocol1> there a way I can get UNR 9.10 to do a 1024 X 768 resolution?
[13:23] <St0n3-C0l> Youtube will identify on LiveCD, how intel is working.
[13:24] <phixxor> Tiders: it might also have something to do with Canonical having lots of money to support Ubuntu with :P idk
[13:24] <dj_> jrib: Setting xrandr commands in kdm/gdm startup scripts
[13:24] <dj_> Both KDM and GDM have startup scripts that are executed when X is initiated. For GDM, these are in /etc/gdm/, while for KDM this is done at /etc/kde4/kdm/Xsetup. In either case, you can paste in an xrandr command line string into one of these scripts.
[13:24] <dj_> This process requires root access and mucking around in system config files, but will take effect earlier in the startup process than using .xprofile, and will apply to all users including the login screen.
[13:24] <wsch> joaopinto: erm, what did i say wrong mister policeman?
[13:24] <FloodBot2> dj_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:24] <St0n3-C0l> protocol1: It should, tried out Display settings? Or Screen Size?
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> protocol1: install and configure video drivers
[13:24] <wsch> ActionParsnip: the problem is i only want it on a partition?
[13:24] <wsch> ActionParsnip: sorry i should have been more clear about that
[13:24] <cba123> geekk1d, It might be hard to get that to work to be honest, since most programs use scrolling, you'd probably have to disable scrolling globally.
[13:24] <jrib> !grub > wsch
[13:24] <smacfarl> when in grub2 console ls is unrecognized command. How does grub2 find a cfg file?
[13:25] <jrib> wsch: you should be able to just use something like super grub disk, no?
[13:25] <joaopinto> wsch, calling "crappy" to someone elses work is not friendly
[13:25] <Bodsda> smacfarl: grub has a 'find' command
[13:25] <ct529> anyone using live bookmarks on ubuntu?
[13:25] <protocol1> ActionParsnip, I did install nvidia drivers 185 but I only see 640 X 480
[13:25] <web5|org|ua> where is conf for monitor ?
[13:25] <geekk1d> wow is this somthing new in Ubuntu 9.10
[13:25] <D3RGPS31> i'm using the fglrx driver; 3D performance is perfect but 2D performance is aweful, video and window movement is extremely choppy; what can i do (ati r hd 4850, ubuntu 9.10 x86) xorg http://pastebin.com/m62b0aefc ; lspci http://pastebin.com/m25c231a3
[13:25] <phixxor> smacfarl: I think the command may be "find"
[13:25] <wsch> joaopinto: hahahahahahhahahaahahhaahahahah
[13:25] <Paraj> Shouldn't be this difficult to save a GRUB2 config....
[13:25] <geekk1d> cba123, I had this on 9.04 no problem.
[13:25] <Aquilai> Hi, how can I set shortcuts? I have compiz running but both compiz->commands and the "System->Preferences->Keyboard shortcuts" don't seem to let me use my shortcut for "gnome-terminal".
[13:25] <Tiders> phixxor, True... I read that the owner of Conical is loaded and thats why they are able to send away free CDs right? xD
[13:25] <boomer84> Bala, suspend and resume is a real hit and miss thing
[13:25] <LucaFerrixman> noone can help me about it? how can I solve this raid problem?
[13:25] <kevdog> When is the droid supposed to be released?
[13:26] <phixxor> Tiders: something like that :P
[13:26] <artcore> i have a problem with acpi - when i'm switch acpi off on boot when wireless and LAN is works, if acpi still enabled(by default) i have no any network
[13:26] <mimis> ActionParsnip: if i write sudo vi /etc/network/interfaces it appears:  auto lo
[13:26] <mimis> iface lo inet loopback
[13:26] <Paraj> If I want to change basic Grub2 option I edit /etc/default/grub and run 'sudo update-grub' right? What happens when that doesn't work?
[13:26] <dj_> jrib: i will apply to area 51
[13:26] <phixxor> artcore: soundsl ike you need to configure your boot so it uses noapic every time
[13:26] <wsch> jrib: dunno about superdisk didnt try
[13:26] <dany__> anyone alse getting errors when downloadinf from package manager to 9.10?
[13:27] <bala> boomer84: is there anything i can do to figure out exactly what is wrong?
[13:27] <moDumass> hey all, does anyone know of a white noise or rain sound generator in lunix? for people that have tinnitus?
[13:27] <artcore> phixxor i have a laptop and i need in acpi :)
[13:27] <wsch> jrib: but then i still need to get grub installed, i cant allways boot from a cd lol
[13:27] <Bodsda> Paraj: I believe it is /boot/grub/grub.cfg although I am not sure as I still use the old grub. But a change to the menu does not require you to run the update command
[13:27] <jrib> wsch: that was just my suggestion to get back to grub 1 easily
[13:27] <phixxor> artcore: oh, in that case, idk. Good luck@
[13:27] <Paraj> Bodsa: Can't modify it directly anymore apparently
[13:27] <jrib> wsch: you would use it to install grub1
[13:27] <zysoft> Hi all, did anyone found a iwlagn fix for 2.6.31-14 kernel about the MAC is in deep sleep ?  downgrade to 2.6.31-12 works, but it might be possible to run it on the latest kernel
[13:27] <wsch> jrib: oh, i can also boot a liveCD and if its needed i can chroot into my system aswell
[13:27] <kankan_> Bodsda:do you use karmic or what?
[13:27] <artcore> zysoft i have a same problem
[13:28] <Bodsda> Paraj: well that sucks :)
[13:28] <Bodsda> kankan_: no, Im on jaunty. I will upgrade 1 month after initial release
[13:28] <artcore> strange that ubuntu hase released distro wuth buggy kernel
[13:28] <Paraj> Bodsa: No kidding, I use Linux to not be treated like a child perhaps I should just go back to Debian...
[13:28] <Bodsda> artcore: the kernel is not buggy afaik. And if it was there is nothing stopping you from reverting to an older kernel
[13:28] <zysoft> artcore did you find something? I saw a fix to iwlagn source, but still dunno how to rebuild it
[13:29] <phixxor> krishna: sorry, but I have to go. Good luck with everything!
[13:29] <Bodsda> Paraj: they will have the same downfalls. May I suggest Arch, Slackware, Gentoo or a custom LFS
[13:29] <randomtime> Hey, I've just upgraded from Windows XP to 9.10 :) - Just a copule of annoying details, everything else is very smooth. My middle mouse scroll wheel works but if I press it I can't get it to scroll up or down automatically with the mouse
[13:29] <artcore> zysoft only that i have done that on boot switch acpi off
[13:29] <Dr_Willis> you dont modify /boot/grub/grub.cfg directly for a REASON.. it get overwritten when you run update-grub so you changes get lost
[13:29] <zysoft> artcore how did you do that?
[13:29] <Paraj> Bodsa: I use Ubuntu because I couldn't be bothered to spend my time configuring Debian, so if it's not Ubuntu then it's going to be Debian :P
[13:29] <zysoft> I don't know the kernel flags well
[13:30] <Paraj> Still, I just want to save my damn Grub configuration using the methods outlined in the wiki, but it doesn't work
[13:30] <Bodsda> Dr_Willis: so what is the equivilant of /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[13:30] <Younder> now i claims pygtk isn't istalled. But wings IDE which uses it runs
[13:30] <Dr_Willis> if you want to alter the grub.cfg properly edit the proper  grub config files so they work with the update-grub system
[13:30] <Younder> sigh
[13:30] <artcore> zysoft: on boot menu press E and add after kernel options acpi=off
[13:30] <Bodsda> Paraj: revert to Grub1
[13:30] <wsch> jrib: i dunno how to install grub1
[13:30] <wsch> jrib: and i cannot find it in your links
[13:30] <wsch> i dont even know if the links are about grub1 or grub2
[13:30] <Paraj> Dr_Willis: I did that, update-grub doesn't update the grub.cfg file and the GUI StartUp-Manager does nothing either
[13:30] <Dr_Willis>  Bodsda  that Is the equilivent. but you dont edit it directly. If you want to add an entry to it. you make one in /etc/grub.d/##_whatever
[13:30] <kankan_> i am having a major problem.happening all the time.whenever i switch on my pc and right after selection ubuntu from GRUB menu the screen gets blanc
[13:30] <wsch> this is all extremely confusing
[13:30] <artcore> zysoft: fedora 11 works fine on my laptop
[13:30] <zysoft> artcore, true, thanks
[13:30] <bala> wsch: apt-get install grub
[13:30] <Younder> the system installer is called grub not grub1
[13:31] <zysoft> artcore, but I love ubuntu :)
[13:31] <Dr_Willis> Paraj:  gui startup-manager is obsolete now . and you did rerun update-grub after making the file?
[13:31] <bala> wsch: that should get you the old grub
[13:31] <Bodsda> Dr_Willis: I'll stick to Grub1 thanks. Works fine for me
[13:31] <artcore> ubuntu as ussualy - still buggy
[13:31] <protocol1> I have an nvidia 6200 series card...which would work better driver version 173 185 or 96?
[13:31] <Dr_Willis> Paraj:  ive added my own entries to the grub2 menus this way
[13:31] <wsch> bala: thats it, it configures on its own?
[13:31] <protocol1> I am currently using 185
[13:31] <Paraj> Dr_Willis: If you read what I said, I said I ran 'sudo update-grub' after editing the file
[13:31] <Dr_Willis> Bodsda:  i will stick with grub2 now that i got it booting ISO files..
[13:31] <Bodsda> artcore: you are free to use something else if you dont like it. There will always be bugs straight after a release
[13:31] <artcore> zysoft: i think you love nice interface :)
[13:31] <Paraj> Dr_Willis: It updated menu.lst not grub.cfg
[13:31] <Bodsda> Dr_Willis: touche
[13:31] <bala> wsch: yup
[13:31] <Dr_Willis> Paraj:  you made the file EXECUTABLE ? :) like the docs say?
[13:31] <web5|org|ua> where is xorg.conf in 9.10 ?
[13:31] <Younder> My mode is to fix it
[13:31] <wsch> bala: ok and theres no problem to do this from chroot?
[13:31] <Dr_Willis> Paraj:  if you have a menu.lst - then somthing is odd. and you got parts of grub1 there.
[13:32] <morydd> my wireless connection worked last night after upgrading to 9.10 today when I run "ifup eth1" I get "wpa_supplicant: /sbin/wpa_supplicant daemon failed to start"
[13:32] <bala> wsch: it will remove your grub-pc package and install the old one
[13:32] <JoshuaL> how to restart sound services?
[13:32] <zysoft> artcore really? So what's the difference between gnome on fedora and ubuntu? theme? ha
[13:32] <Bodsda> web5|org|ua: It does not exist by default, as in 9.04. You can create one if you like
[13:32] <Dr_Willis> Paraj:  i got no menu.lst at all on any of my 3 machines.
[13:32] <wsch> bala: perfect, thats what i ewant, and can i do it from a chroot env ?
[13:32] <Paraj> Dr_Willis: Did a fresh install so I don't understand why update-grub is making it there
[13:32] <bala> wsch: no, just make sure that your /dev and /proc are mounted at the right places
[13:32] <D3RGPS31> i'm using the fglrx driver; 3D performance is perfect but 2D performance is aweful, video and window movement is extremely choppy; what can i do (ati r hd 4850, ubuntu 9.10 x86) xorg http://pastebin.com/m62b0aefc ; lspci http://pastebin.com/m25c231a3
[13:32] <artcore> zysoft: ubuntu a little bit nicer than fedora
[13:32] <wsch> bala: the only way to get into my installed system is chrooting in from a liveCD
[13:32] <LucaFerrixman> How can I install Ubuntu Karmic Koala on a system with no RAID controller configured, but with Ubuntu pretending I have one, and if I start the installer with the "NODMRAID" option, the installer doesn't see my two hard disks anymore?
[13:32] <protocol1> I have an nvidia 6200 series card...which would work better driver version 173 185 or 96?
[13:32] <artcore> opensolaris is nice too
[13:32] <web5|org|ua> Bodsda: ok, but where is now stored info for display and xserver ?
[13:33] <bala> wsch: yup. i screwed up my grub2 install yesterday and fixed it with 8.04
[13:33] <Bodsda> artcore: this is not the place to discuss distro's please take it elsewhere
[13:33] <wsch> bala: could you tell me how please? just so im sure
[13:33] <bala> wsch: live cd, that is.
[13:33] <Bodsda> web5|org|ua: I am not sure. But the best way to influence it is to create an xorg.conf in /etc/X11/
[13:33] <wsch> bala: the /proc and /dev part especially
[13:33] <artcore> bodsda: sorry but this kernel bug affects many laptops
[13:33] <wsch> the rest shouldnt be a problem
[13:33] <bala> wsch: just a sec,
[13:33] <zysoft> artcore I tried arch, fedora, plain debian, open suse, open solaris and some others. I found that ubuntu looks good for my development purposes. It has a lot of thing done that you usually do by hand. And it's fast
[13:33] <artcore> i'm not alone with tis kind of problem
[13:33] <wsch> bala: sure
[13:34] <Younder> I disagree. This IS the place to discuss the distro
[13:34] <Bodsda> artcore: this is also not the place to discuss kernel issues. This is for ubuntu support. Not Linux programming
[13:34] <Paraj> Dr_Willis: Even when I delete menu.lst 'update-grub' keeps wanting to make a new one instead of grub.cfg >.<
[13:34] <artcore> zysoft: u r right
[13:34] <Younder> or errors in it at any rate
[13:34] <artcore> ubuntu support?
[13:34] <artcore> here?
[13:34] <kankan_> zysoft:i am having a major problem.happening all the time.whenever i switch on my pc and right after selection ubuntu from GRUB menu the screen gets blanc
[13:34] <psinetic> i'm on ubuntu 9.10 trying to play songs on rhythmbox. it keeps telling me i need some windows codec?
[13:34] <Bodsda> Younder: 'this' distro can be 'discussed' in #ubuntu-offtopic. Support can be found here
[13:34] <bala> wsch: sudo mount --bind /proc /pathtoyourchroot_root/proc
[13:35] <pticochon> hi
[13:35] <LucaFerrixman> thank you very much... you've been of no help at all...
[13:35] <bala> wsch: likewise for /dev
[13:35] <Bodsda> psinetic: no, you need media codecs
[13:35] <pticochon> my sound doesn't work with 9.10 ubuntu
[13:35] <pticochon> just upgraded to that version
[13:35] <Younder> But a buggy distro is on topic
[13:35] <artcore> i'm still googling and reading forums about acpi problems but ubuntu guys are very busy to make a patch
[13:35] <pticochon> well, doesn't work "well"
[13:35] <psinetic> bodsda, ok from where?
[13:35] <Younder> not off-topic
[13:35] <wsch> bala: ok thanx
[13:35] <ikonia> Younder: do you have a support question ?
[13:35] <Dr_Willis> Paraj:  sounds like you some how got the grub-legacy older grub installed.
[13:35] <pticochon> anyone with this problem too?
[13:35] <protocol1> there a way I can force 1024 X 768 with my nvidia 185 driver?
[13:35] <Bodsda> psinetic: installing vlc is the easiest option. Or you can install the gstreamer packages
[13:35] <Bodsda> !codecs | psinetic
[13:35] <protocol1> Im using UNR 9.10
[13:35] <zysoft> kankan_: did you try do disable graphics boot?
[13:36] <krishna> phixxor, thanks.. thats helped me to fix.
[13:36] <Paraj> Dr_Willis: Well when I boot it's Grub2 and I did a fresh install so it should be gone, dead, caput
[13:36] <Bodsda> protocol1: take a look at the 'xrandr' command
[13:36] <kankan_> zysoft:no.how to do that pls?
[13:36] <bala> wsch: you are welcome :)
[13:36] <kankan_> i am alll new..
[13:36] <zysoft> kankan_: hold on a sec...
[13:36] <protocol1> Bodsda, thx will thry that
[13:36] <Younder> ikonia, OK, why doesn't rhythmbox work in the 9.10 distro
[13:36] <pechenie> hey! radeon R500 users!)) i have activated KMS & DRI2 on my ATI X1600 and I finally got compiz working without any glitches, also there is finally native display resolution in TTY1-6, but there is a little bit performace loss. Is there further tips to "tune" opensource ATI radeon drivers?
[13:36] <anoob> hi, i have a realtek 8187 that just works next to the router...
[13:36] <bala> wsch: i had forgotten to select the device to which grub2 should have been installed
[13:36] <ikonia> Younder: could you define doesn't work please.
[13:36] <anoob> how can i solve it?
[13:36] <Younder> I have spendt all day fixing it
[13:36] <bala> wsch: i got it working the second time i installed it.
[13:37] <Dr_Willis> Paraj:  somthing really quirky then.. actually I dont even recall seeing the phrase 'grub2' in the grub2 menus.. its version # is somthing like 1.93? let me check
[13:37] <atterdag> I got a problem on a newly upgrade karmic (from jaunty) that udev isn't creating the devices for my nForce-4 CK804 soundcard
[13:37] <jhghjhj> is Kamric going to be a LTS release?
[13:37] <D3RGPS31> i'm using the fglrx driver; 3D performance is perfect but 2D performance is aweful, video and window movement is extremely choppy; what can i do (ati r hd 4850, ubuntu 9.10 x86) xorg http://pastebin.com/m62b0aefc ; lspci http://pastebin.com/m25c231a3
[13:37] <kankan_> no.
[13:37] <Dr_Willis> jhghjhj:  no.
[13:37] <ikonia> jhghjhj: no
[13:37] <Paraj> Dr_Willis: No it's 1.93 but everyone refers to it as Grub2 because everyone is weird :P
[13:37] <Dr_Willis> !lts
[13:37] <Bodsda> jgornick: I dont believe so
[13:37] <BlouBlou> !lts | jhghjhj
[13:37] <Dr_Willis> Paraj:  :) yep
[13:37] <zysoft> kankan_: try this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76704
[13:37] <Younder> ikonia, OK, it aborts with a 'could not import gygtk'
[13:38] <Younder> pygtk
[13:38] <wsch> bala: ok i wrote it down to make sure i cant forget it :p
[13:38] <artcore> !acpi
[13:38] <zysoft> kankan_: try to edit boot flag on the fly first
[13:38] <wsch> bala: brb all reboot and try it, just to make sure ill alo use 8.10
[13:38] <Dr_Willis> I definatly dont have a menu.lst here.. odd this ONE machine always says 'entering rescue mode' befor it actually boots grub..
[13:38] <Younder> ikonia, odd, since it has pygtk
[13:38] <Bodsda> !apci
[13:38] <Phantomas> Hello, where is the desktop-switcher on unr karmic? :(
[13:38] <kankan_> zysoft:cud this be a GRUB problem?downgrade to grub1 will help?
[13:38] <artcore> :>
[13:38] <mentr> Hello, fresh installed 9.10 RC.. running good after install. But after updates wired network is lost... anyone?
[13:38] <bala> wsch: cool. what happened to your grub installation?
[13:38]  * artcore still waiting for fc12
[13:38] <ikonia> Younder: Hmmmm, checked the obvious, permissions on the libraries ?
[13:38] <ikonia> artcore: offtopic
[13:38] <Younder> ikonia, yes
[13:38] <wsch> bala: the ubuntu installer tried installing grub2, thats what happened
[13:38] <codeswing> could not install as cd rom is not working and boot from usb is not working
[13:38] <zysoft> kankan_ I don't know. But it seems like usplash can't run graphics well
[13:39] <artcore> i know
[13:39] <sharperguy> Still having serious sound problems with Karmic. Not working in firefox or totem and changing the volume doesn't actually have any effect on amarok. This is after disabling pulseaudio on the previous release and then upgrading
[13:39] <Guest47310> ciao
[13:39] <ikonia> artcore: then don't do it
[13:39] <artcore> but i have a big problems with karmic
[13:39] <bala> wsch: oh okay
[13:39] <wsch> bala: grub2 and / or ubuntu installler are crap basically
[13:39] <Guest47310> !list
[13:39] <varuka> Just upgraded and only problem so far is I can't switch between workspaces with the scroll wheel anymore.  Any suggestions?
[13:39] <ikonia> Younder: you're the first I've heard mention this, let me grab my karmic box
[13:39] <Bodsda> artcore: then ask a question. Provide useful information. Offtopic banter is not on topic here
[13:39] <wsch> bala: which one it is im not sure, but if installing grub legacy fixes it im more then happy
[13:39] <Thundercross> How's Grub2 different from Grub1?
[13:39] <bala> wsch: they don't install grub2 by default, do they? ( i was upgrading)
[13:39] <bala> wsch: good luck. :)
[13:39] <Mallarky> I just bought a router but ubuntu cannot connect to it.  Running 9.04 and an ADSL modem but connected directly to the modem using PPPOE. Cannot ping the router.  Works fine on Windows machine so its not the router.
[13:39] <kankan_> zysoft:can you tell me how to log in to ubuntu with command line or root console?
[13:39] <Bodsda> Thundercross: you would have to check the release notes for a full description
[13:39] <wsch> bala: it did over here anyway, from the CD
[13:39] <nperry> Thundercross: Grub2 has had a total recode, so more efficent!
[13:40] <Paraj> Thundercross: It's newer and more 'flexible' but it's also more painful for ordinary users to configure >.<
[13:40] <morydd> my wireless connection worked last night after upgrading to 9.10 today when I run "ifup eth1" I get "wpa_supplicant: /sbin/wpa_supplicant daemon failed to start"
[13:40] <wsch> bala: if you upgrade probably not, clean install however did (at least here)
[13:40] <Baughn> Since I installed 9.10, mplayer refuses to go into fullscreen mode. What's with that?
[13:40] <Thundercross> Okay. Well, the Grub I've been using for a while is perfectly fine for me.
[13:40] <bala> wsch: ok
[13:40] <zeroXten> is it me or is the nvidia support getting worse? my new karmic install doesn't even see my graphics card as needing proprietry drivers =(
[13:40] <zysoft> kankan_: do you mean single user mode, grub options or from graphical interface?
[13:40] <nperry> zeroXten: Its you.
[13:40] <artcore> morydd do you have a laptop or desktop?
[13:40] <ikonia> Younder: just opened fine for me, let me do a little more digging/testing
[13:40] <morydd> artcore: laptop
[13:40] <artcore> one more
[13:40] <artcore> lol
[13:40] <artcore> ok
[13:40] <zeroXten> nperry: is there anything special i need to  do then? it works quite happily in Hardy
[13:41] <sharperguy> Amarok2 is set to use pulseaudio and plays ok but the volume control applet has no effect. Totem and flash I have no idea how to set and don't play anything. Alsa doesn't seem to be able to produce sound either
[13:41] <artcore> moryd try switch acpi on boot
[13:41] <kankan_> zysoft:from recovery mode?
[13:41] <artcore> morydd: switch off
[13:41] <mentr> Fresh Karmic install, after updates + reboot  > wired network gone... anyone?
[13:41] <D3RGPS31> i'm using the fglrx driver; 3D performance is perfect but 2D performance is aweful, video and window movement is extremely choppy; what can i do (ati r hd 4850, ubuntu 9.10 x86) xorg http://pastebin.com/m62b0aefc ; lspci http://pastebin.com/m25c231a3
[13:41] <pticochon> is pulseaudio a worthless piece of trash?
[13:41] <Bodsda> pticochon: no
[13:41] <zysoft>  kankan_: yes, this should be single user mode
[13:41] <pticochon> then why doesn't it work?
[13:41] <nperry> zeroXten: Shouldn't have to do anything. On my main computer havent had a clean install since hardy!
[13:41] <Baughn> pticochon: Not entirely
[13:42] <Bodsda> pticochon: define 'doesnt work'
[13:42] <Paraj> Speaking of pulseaudio, does karmic actually configure it correctly or am I going to have to pretty much do it myself again? :/
[13:42] <kankan_> zysoft:how to do that pls?
[13:42] <Baughn> Paraj: The latter.
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> pticochon: depends on how you config it really
[13:42] <pticochon> whenever I have its process running, I get no sound
[13:42] <Cheery> can you explain where the boot menu has disappeared from the ubuntu bootup?
[13:42] <Baughn> Paraj: Well, unless you enjoy poor resampling
[13:42] <pticochon> when I kill it I get some sound
[13:42] <Pilif12p> How do i fix cron: can't lock /var/run/crond.pid, otherpid may be 11212: Resource temporarily unavailable
[13:42] <Cheery> (and how to get it back?)
[13:42] <pticochon> just in certain apps
[13:42] <Paraj> Baughn: Great, there goes my incentive to upgrade my main workstation to karmic :/
[13:42] <italianu11> hy
[13:42] <carresmd> I'm looking for some that's running karmic in a VM and willing to test something for me
[13:42] <italianu11> i'm new in this irc
[13:42] <Baughn> Paraj: At least the configuration amounted only to editing two lines in /etc.
[13:43] <jibadeeha> how do i upgrade to kernel version 2.6.31-15
[13:43] <italianu11> and i want if someone can tell me how to become a hacker
[13:43] <artcore> jibadeeha
[13:43] <varuka> I can't scroll between workspaces since I upgraded.  Worked fine before.  Any ideas?
[13:43] <morydd> artcore: how do I do that?
[13:43] <zysoft>  kankan_: try typing "e" in grub menu. It will give you a set of lines, then choose the needed one and place e again. Then delete "splash" and place enter. then place "b" and you will boot with you changes
[13:43] <bazhang> italianu11, hack the kernel?
[13:43] <rob> italianu11: LOOOOOOOOL
[13:43] <italianu11> if anyone know please contact me
[13:43] <Dr_Willis> jibadeeha:  wait for it to be avail via the repos and upgrade. is the best way
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> jibadeeha: sudo apt-get install linux-image-2.6.31-15-generic
[13:43] <rob> i must have come in the wrong time
[13:43] <rob> lol
[13:43] <Bodsda> !pm > Warre
[13:43] <jibadeeha> thanks ActionParsnip
[13:43] <artcore> morydd: on boot menu press E and add after kernel options acpi=off
[13:44] <D3RGPS31> i'm using the fglrx driver; 3D performance is perfect but 2D performance is aweful, video and window movement is extremely choppy; what can i do (ati r hd 4850, ubuntu 9.10 x86) xorg http://pastebin.com/m62b0aefc ; lspci http://pastebin.com/m25c231a3 :/
[13:44] <m3F> need help with Kubuntu Karmic sound system
[13:44] <bratiz> yo yo my name's brat
[13:44] <carresmd> I'm looking for some that's running karmic in a VM and willing to test something for me
[13:44] <bratiz> iz
[13:44] <iceroot> !ask | m3F
[13:44] <sysrpl> i wasted my entire evening with ubuntu installing last night
[13:44] <bazhang> bratiz, please stop that
[13:44] <leachim6> hey
[13:44] <nicklas_> can you trust ubuntu one?
[13:44] <m3F> ok
[13:44] <bratiz> stop ww
[13:44] <bratiz> what
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> jibadeeha: its not in the standard repos, you will need a PPA
[13:44] <leachim6> I need to compile alsa for my HP-Mini 110 ... how can I figure out with ALSA driver to use ?
[13:44] <Dr_Willis> nicklas_:  as much as you can trust any online storage places i guess..
[13:44] <sysrpl> when i installed from from a cd (burned from a downloaded iso), it took forever to get past that little white ubuntu symbol in the middle of the screen, then it went to a text mode screen for a minute, then the screen when black and everything stopped working
[13:44] <v0lksman> anyone know where I can get wsgi 2.5+ for jaunty?
[13:45] <m3F> Kubuntu Karmic does not play Surround
[13:45] <artcore> carresmd: u can try it by yourself - it's easy :)
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> !info wsgi
[13:45] <Bodsda> !u | artcore
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> v0lksman: whats wsgi?
[13:45] <toogreen> question here: just installed ubuntu karmic amd64 version... in the LiveCD my Nvidia card was seen and could be setup with a driver, now after install it can't!! I can only run 2D without desktop effects. Any ideas? I know i could run Envy.. but do I really have to?
[13:45] <artcore> sry
[13:45] <iceroot> m3F: sure it does
[13:45] <nicklas_> Dr_Willis, oh, i mean can it crash or something, so the files disappear? do they have backup systems?
[13:45] <v0lksman> apache2 mod....libapache2-mod-wsgi
[13:45] <m3F> i have an Audigy SE 5.1 channels and playing music with Amarok my rear never plays
[13:45] <v0lksman> !info libapache2-mod-wsgi
[13:45] <Dr_Willis> nicklas_:  i imagine they got some redundancy  - if they are planing on selling the service. :)
[13:45] <Shockrates> hi. how can i check the md5 hash of a tar?
[13:45] <Dr_Willis> nicklas_:  it pays to keep backups of course
[13:45] <RhysTM> anyone know how to get pptp working in 9.10
[13:46] <nicklas_> Dr_Willis, yes
[13:46] <bratiz> you shockrates my man u just type : md5sum phile.tar
[13:46] <v0lksman> I tried the karmic package but it has unresolved deps
[13:46] <ActionParsnip> toogreen: have you installed the nvidia driver?
[13:46] <artcore> !u | bratiz
[13:46] <m3F> iceroot: i mean, in my system of course
[13:46] <leachim6> hey
[13:46] <nicklas_> Dr_Willis, im currently without backup :-P
[13:46] <Paraj> According to http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1195275 there is an update-grub2 command.... but there isn't
[13:46] <Shockrates> bratiz: do we have this tool by default ?
[13:46] <Shockrates> i use kubuntu
[13:46] <Dr_Willis> nicklas_:  backup your backups also
[13:46] <sysrpl> is there anyway to speed up adding software through the software enter? i've been "installing" ubuntu restricted extras for over an hour and it's only at 15%
[13:46] <artcore> kewl
[13:46] <Younder> You need the native nvidea driver
[13:46] <leachim6> I need to compile alsa for my HP-Mini 110, how can I figure out which alsa driver to use?
[13:46] <toogreen> ActionParsnip, nope, when I go to Hardware drivers, its not there as an option (although it WAS in the LiveCD!!)
[13:46] <bratiz> i have it w/o installin somethin
[13:46] <ActionParsnip> toogreen: run: gksudo jockey-gtk
[13:46] <sysrpl> is there anyway to speed up adding software through the software center? i've been "installing" ubuntu restricted extras for over an hour and it's only at 15%
[13:47] <D3RGPS31> i'm using the fglrx driver; 3D performance is perfect but 2D performance is aweful, video and window movement is extremely choppy; what can i do (ati r hd 4850, ubuntu 9.10 x86) xorg http://pastebin.com/m62b0aefc ; lspci http://pastebin.com/m25c231a3 :/
[13:47] <Phantomas> I installed unr karmic with the classic desktop and now I can't change to the netbook desktop
[13:47] <Dr_Willis> sysrpl:  the servers are a little slow right now. You could tr different mirrors.
[13:47] <damagednoob> newly upgraded gnome koala, the brightness on my gateway laptop keeps changing on it's own. If I hibernate it, when the machine comes back up, the brightness has changed.
[13:47] <damagednoob> is it related to this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/415023
[13:47] <nicklas_> Dr_Willis, ubuntu one is a monthly cost, it might be better and more economical too buy an external hdd or a big usb memory or somehing
[13:47] <Younder> it isn't distributed with ubuntu as the source code is propriatary
[13:47] <Bodsda> sysrpl: It is likely to be your internet connection.
[13:47] <Dr_Willis> nicklas_:  first 2gb is free.. so do what you want. :)
[13:47] <anstei> i just upgraded to 9.10, now the encryption of my home dir is fucked up, "ERROR: Encrypted private directory is not setup properly" -- what can i do?
[13:47] <preecher> after upgrading to 9.10 i lost 2 progs and they arent listed in ubuntu software center or synaptic--they are wireshark root and zenmap root--does anyone know how i can get them back?
[13:47] <nicklas_> Dr_Willis, yeah
[13:47] <sysrpl> Bodsda: i can download from other internet sites just fine
[13:47] <carresmd> I'm looking for someone that's running karmic in a VM and willing to test something for me?
[13:47] <Shockrates> thanks bratiz
[13:47] <Younder> but the linux driver is excelllent
[13:47] <iceroot> anstei: watch your language
[13:47] <toogreen> ActionParsnip, just did what you said... Same thing tho, it says No proprietary drivers are in use blah blah
[13:47] <Dr_Willis> nicklas_:  ubuntu one has had uptime/stabiltiy issues during beta.. so it always pays to have flash drives :)
[13:47] <sysrpl> Bodsda: i downloaded a 1gb torrent in 20 minutes
[13:48] <mentr> Fresh Karmic install, after updates + reboot  > wired network gone...  pm plz
[13:48] <Nalleman> hi, i would like to switch desktop enviroment from netbook remix to ordinary gnome. how can this be done?
[13:48] <m3F> iceroot: Phonon detects front and rear, and when i test those channels phonon plays sound through them
[13:48] <Bodsda> sysrpl: you could grab the package from packages.ubuntu.com  -- the Ubuntu mirrors are still being hit very hard at the moment. Slow speeds are expected
[13:48] <nicklas_> Dr_Willis, hm
[13:48] <artcore> one more --> mentr
[13:48] <Paraj> So... how do I execute update-grub2 ? Or am I being led down the garden path?
[13:48] <v0lksman> hrm...weird...tried the karmic package again and it worked...
[13:48] <m3F> iceroot: but when a play amarok i just hear fronts
[13:48] <iceroot> m3F: ask a full detailed question to the channel, icant help you
[13:48] <Younder> Paraj, Why do you need to update grub?
[13:49] <Paraj> Younder: I'm trying to change my configuration
[13:49] <artcore> this will affect wifi and/or eth
[13:49] <Dr_Willis> Paraj:  just type that command (with sudo) but on my systems at least the 2 commands update-grub and update-grub2 are the same script
[13:49] <Paraj> Dr_Willis: As I said, that doesn't work :/
[13:49] <toogreen_> ActionParsnip, sorry, got dc for some reason... Should I just install Envy?
[13:49] <wsch> who was helping me agian? :( i forgot the nickname
[13:49] <pechenie> anyone!! who uses DRI2 & KMS on ATI radeon on karmic??
[13:49] <ActionParsnip> toogreen: ok then run: sudo apt-get install nvidia-185-modaliases nvidia-glx-185
[13:49] <Younder> Paraj, So.. you can do that from grub
[13:49] <Mallarky> Can i get some help installing a router. I cannot connect to it.  If i ping it it says network is unreachable.  Not router or cable.
[13:49] <artcore> is there some king laptop related channel?
[13:49] <diddy> Where can the alternate CD for 9.10 be downloaded?
[13:49] <thunderbird> hi
[13:49] <artcore> ubuntu+laptop
[13:50] <Dr_Willis> Paraj:  at least i think thy are the same.. double checking
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> Mallarky: i'd ask in #networking
[13:50] <diddy> I would like to encrypt the OS.
[13:50] <thunderbird> can anyone help me get an ATI Radeon 9600 working on Karmic?
[13:50] <Bodsda> Dr_Willis: run  a 'dff' on both the files
[13:50] <Mallarky> ty
[13:50] <Paraj> Dr_Willis: Well update-grub2 isn't even on my system :/
[13:50] <Bodsda> diff*
[13:50] <Dr_Willis> cat /usr/sbin/update-grub2
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> Mallarky: all i can suggest is make sure your adapter gets dhcp
[13:50] <m3F> iceroot: i do not know what else to say, i always have these surround problems in Ubuntu/Kubuntu
[13:50] <Dr_Willis> ---> exec update-grub "$@"
[13:50] <Dr_Willis> :)
[13:50] <toogreen_> ActionParsnip, ok, its installing, thanks
[13:50] <artcore> diddy: what you mean?
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> Mallarky: you may need to use a cable to initially set it up
[13:50] <Paraj> When I edit /etc/default/grub and run 'sudo update-grub' it decides to make a menu.lst instead of a grub.cfg
[13:50] <Dr_Willis> Bodsda:  one just calls the other. heh
[13:50] <pechenie> thunderbird, whats wrong?
[13:50] <wsch> bala: was it you who was helping me a bit earlyer with my grbu problem? sorry if it was not you, i dont recall the nickname
[13:50] <diddy> I am looking for the Ubuntu 9.10 alternate CD that allows full OS encryption.
[13:51] <thunderbird> I can't get the desktop effects working, and I've tried radeon and fglrx
[13:51] <Dr_Willis> Paraj:  sounds like gurb2 for some reason is not installed..
[13:51] <diddy> I can not find the link.
[13:51] <m3F> iceroot: now in Ubuntu everything is ok if i configure the daemon.conf and set 4 channels
[13:51] <Paraj> So my configuration isn't actually saved, and I'm running Grub 1.93 because when I boot the version is as clear as day
[13:51] <leachim6> any ideas?
[13:51] <Bodsda> Dr_Willis: how utterly pointless. My guess it is there for future expansion and compatibility
[13:51] <bala> wsch: yup
[13:51] <Dr_Willis> Paraj:  but some how it got installed to the mbr..
[13:51] <wsch> bala: in that case:
[13:51] <wsch> $ sudo mount /dev/sda6 /mnt mount: unknown filesystem type 'ext4'
[13:51] <morydd> artcore: that seems to have done the trick
[13:51] <D3RGPS31> i'm using the fglrx driver; 3D performance is perfect but 2D performance is aweful, video and window movement is extremely choppy; what can i do (ati r hd 4850, ubuntu 9.10 x86) xorg http://pastebin.com/m62b0aefc ; lspci http://pastebin.com/m25c231a3 :/
[13:51] <Dr_Willis> Bodsda:  or for ease of removeale later..
[13:51] <artcore> diddy: you can only encrypt partition or folder or file
[13:51] <thunderbird> pechenie, I can't get the desktop effects working, and I've tried radeon and fglrx
[13:51] <Bodsda> Dr_Willis: true
[13:51] <bala> wsch: ah
[13:51] <artcore> morydd: it is ok now?
[13:51] <Mallarky> ActionPartnership  I am using a cable
[13:51] <wsch> bala: can i do this from 9.10 aswell?
[13:52] <Paraj> Dr_Willis: Meh, I'll just try installing the whole thing again
[13:52] <morydd> artcore: network is functional
[13:52] <dalton2345> hi everyone, so how is karmic?
[13:52] <bala> wsch: i believe so.
[13:52] <artcore> morydd: i think we must wait for kernel update
[13:52] <m3F> iceroot: how can i tell phonon to send audio to both channels, front and rear? because it does not happen with the configuration i have
[13:52] <diddy> artcore, what? They changed it? I always encrypted everything.
[13:52] <mentr> Fresh Karmic install, after updates + reboot  > wired network gone...  how do i get it back
[13:52] <wsch> bala: just sudo apt-gt install grub it wa right?
[13:52] <bala> wsch: you will need some live cd with ext4 support, 9.10 should be good for that.
[13:52] <thunderbird> dalton2345, bit unfriendly to hardware IMHO
[13:52] <artcore> diddy: you mean files?
[13:52] <bala> wsch: yup
[13:52] <wsch> bala: ok c u in a bit
[13:52]  * wsch reboots
[13:52] <bala> wsch:
[13:52] <anstei> i just upgraded to 9.10, now the encryption of my home dir is broken, "ERROR: Encrypted private directory is not setup properly" -- what can i do?
[13:52] <Shockrates> does anyone use sagemath?
[13:53] <dalton2345> thunderbird: ouch, thats not good
[13:53] <ActionParsnip> wsch: i recommend you make a subfolder in /mnt and mount to that
[13:53] <ugur> hi all. I have upgraded from jaunty to karmic and i want to compile virtualbox with new kernel but when i run /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup it says : Your kernel source for kernel 2.6.31-14-generic cannot be found
[13:53] <bala> wsch: and you can force it to install on any hdd,
[13:53] <diddy> artcore, with the alternate CD you used to be able to encrypt the entire operating system. You couldn't boot without entering a decryption password.
[13:53] <bala> wsch: by using grub-install /dev/yourhdd
[13:53] <Bodsda> I know this is unsupported at the moment but is there any plans for Ubuntu to provide a downgrade option?
[13:53] <ActionParsnip> wsch: you may need to use the -t option to specify the file system type
[13:53] <sysrpl> when i installed from from a cd (burned from a downloaded iso), it took forever to get past that little white ubuntu symbol in the middle of the screen, then it went to a text mode screen for a minute, then the screen when black and everything stopped working
[13:53] <artcore> diddy: it is encrypted filesystem
[13:53] <diddy> artcore, correct.
[13:53] <bala> wsch: still there?
[13:53] <bazhang> sysrpl, tried in recovery mode? any bootoptions?
[13:54] <diddy> artcore, therefore I need the alternate CD.
[13:54] <ActionParsnip> sysrpl: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded? Did you verify the CD once initially booted to?
[13:54] <D3RGPS31> i'm using the fglrx driver; 3D performance is perfect but 2D performance is aweful, video and window movement is extremely choppy; what can i do (ati r hd 4850, ubuntu 9.10 x86) xorg http://pastebin.com/m62b0aefc ; lspci http://pastebin.com/m25c231a3 :/
[13:54] <artcore> diddy: try to search on mirrors
[13:54] <Bodsda> sysrpl: did you md5 check the cd? Try the check cd for defects option
[13:54] <sysrpl> yes
[13:54] <johni> hello everybody, have a problem with 9.10 (after upgrade from 9.04). I get "Association request to the driver failed" with wpa_supplicant ....
[13:54] <kankan_> how to login to desktop through root console?
[13:54] <sysrpl> and yes
[13:54] <kankan_> or command line?
[13:54] <ActionParsnip> sysrpl: please tab complete my niock if you are addressing me so the text highlights
[13:54] <m3F> iceroot: myabe if i ask in #kubuntu
[13:54] <sysrpl> the problem is ubuntu is trying to use a video mode not supported by my monitors which are lcd
[13:54] <Bodsda> kankan_: if you mean how do I start the xserver it is   xstart  or maybe   startx   I can never remember which
[13:54] <RhysTM> does anyone know how to get network-manager-pptp working?
[13:54] <bazhang> Bodsda, not sure but there is backintime-gnome and backintime-kde
[13:55] <Bodsda> bazhang: sweet, I'll look into it, cheers buddy
[13:55] <DexterLB> hello
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> sysrpl: then use boot options to either specify safe graphics mode, or set the resolution
[13:55] <artcore> rhystm: you mean pptp connection or only manager?
[13:55] <bazhang> Bodsda, described as 'rsync for the very lazy'
[13:55] <Athanasios> hello
[13:55] <RhysTM> anyway of getting a pptp vpn connection
[13:55] <Bodsda> bazhang: hah. Well I fit into that catagory :)
[13:55] <epinky> johni: wpa_supplicant, ok and ...?
[13:55] <Younder> johni, 9.10 distribution is buggy
[13:55] <RhysTM> i have network-manager-pptp installed
[13:56] <leachim6> is there a command I can run to find out what to put in my alsa conf?
[13:56] <artcore> rhystm i have tested it today - all is ok
[13:56] <DexterLB> I upgraded to karmic and created a new user. Now on when gnome starts X restarts if I haven't selected failsafe gnome.
[13:56] <bazhang> Younder, thats not helpful
[13:56] <kankan_> ActionParsnip:cud upls help me.i am in serious problem.
[13:56] <sysrpl> ActionParsnip: it took me forever to firgure that was the problem, because the screen was dumping to text, then the montior and drive tured offf
[13:56] <Athanasios> can i get some help with my graphics driver?
[13:56] <johni> Younder, it worked well with 9.04 kernel, is the kernel or wpa_supplication ?
[13:56] <DexterLB> I also tried removing ALL stertup applications, including gnome settings daemon, still the same effect
[13:56] <RhysTM> i keep getting a failed connection and i know the details are all correct
[13:56] <toogreen_> ActionParsnip, installation will be finished soon, after that i go back into Hardware Drivers?
[13:56] <Paraj> bazhang: In comparison to what? :P
[13:56] <RhysTM> :( strange
[13:56] <D3RGPS31> i'm using the fglrx driver; 3D performance is perfect but 2D performance is aweful, video and window movement is extremely choppy; what can i do (ati r hd 4850, ubuntu 9.10 x86) xorg http://pastebin.com/m62b0aefc ; lspci http://pastebin.com/m25c231a3 :/
[13:57] <DexterLB> what should I do?
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> toogreen_: no, just resrtart x sever
[13:57] <johni> epinky, well I cannot connect to my wireless network ... wpa_supplicant fails. After that errors I get other errors about the pre-shared key not being valid and many more
[13:57] <Younder> bazhang, sorry about that , but I am getting all sorts of repors. And my problems are not neccesairly the ones shared by others
[13:57] <toogreen_> ok thanks
[13:57] <pshr_> kate || kdevelop ?
[13:57] <leachim6> hey
[13:57] <artcore> RhysTM: try look on pptp server side - what's happen
[13:57] <pshr_> hi | leachim6
[13:57] <sysrpl> ActionParsnip: and even when i got another crt monitor, hen i couldn't switch out of 2048x1526
[13:58] <RhysTM> artcore: i dont know because i dont have access to the network without a pptp vpn connection
[13:58] <sulan> xdpyinfo | grep resolutions shows 305x305 dpi for my 42" LCD which is clearly wrong - suggestions of where to fix it?
[13:58] <artcore> RhysTM: i work with Mikrotik pptp server
[13:58] <epinky> johni: post the complete log, it could be hundred of things
[13:58] <sysrpl> and even when i got another crt monitor, then i couldn't switch out of 2048x1526
[13:58] <RhysTM> this is a ms native pptp server
[13:58] <johni> epinky, wpa_supplicant log ? syslog ? which one would be better ?
[13:58] <DexterLB> ok I'll ask this in another way: What is a failsafe gnome session different from a regular one except for not starting the customized startup apps?
[13:59] <epinky> johni: wpa_supplicant I guess
[13:59] <Athanasios> How do i become super-user when i open a .run file in terminal?
[13:59] <D3RGPS31> how do i enable 2d acceleration :/
[13:59] <Younder> Athanasios, suso su
[13:59] <sysrpl> i am only getting 2000 bytes per second downloads for my software packages
[13:59] <Younder> sudo
[13:59] <bazhang> D3RGPS31, iirc there is a launchpad bug with that
[13:59] <DexterLB> Athanasios: sudo -s or sudo su
[13:59] <bazhang> !slow | sysrpl
[14:00] <wsch> bala: istn apt-get install grub gonna install it to my MBR?
[14:00] <nperry> !ubuntu+1
[14:00] <bazhang> sysrpl, so is everyone
[14:00] <preecher> after upgrading to 9.10 i lost 2 progs and they arent listed in ubuntu software center or synaptic--they are wireshark root and zenmap root--does anyone know how i can get them back?
[14:00] <nperry> When is #ubuntu+1 going to unforwarded?
[14:00] <wsch> bala: also grub is not evailable, only grub-pc :(
[14:00] <sysrpl> i already have the cd iso, how do i chane the mirrors for apt-get?
[14:00] <Athanasios> the problem is i am opening the file into terminal, to run the executable, so i cant type in sudo before the command
[14:00] <DexterLB> can anybody help me please?
[14:00] <DexterLB> :S
[14:00] <Shockrates> Where is sagemath SAVED?
[14:00] <wsch> how can i get GRUB LEGACY PLEASE???????
[14:00] <kubuntuser> nperry: when there is a new release comming
[14:00] <D3RGPS31> bazhang: you have a link to it?
[14:01] <bazhang> D3RGPS31, let me take a look; hang on a second
[14:01] <nperry> kubuntuser: There already is!
[14:01] <sysrpl> how do i change the mirrors for apt-get? i am only getting 2000 bytes per second download on my package installs
[14:01] <Shockrates> what is the red line.?
[14:01] <bazhang> sysrpl, did you see my responses?
[14:02] <kubuntuser> nperry: no there isn't :-\. I do not believe it has a name, alpha, or anything
[14:02] <halezeynep> i'm using toshiba satellite u400 with ubuntu 9.10 and my bluetooth, card reader and webcam didn't work
[14:02] <sysrpl> no
[14:02] <Younder> sysrpl, funny I am getting 600K bytes pr second
[14:02] <bazhang> Shockrates, where you last left on when switching between channels
[14:02] <nperry> kubuntuser: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=377 Lucid
[14:02] <mentr> misschien is het makkelijk om dat te grbeuiken
[14:02] <DexterLB> ah and one more thing: DNS lookup is VERY slow on karmic... anyone else have this problem?
[14:02] <mentr> Fresh Karmic install, after updates + reboot  > wired network gone...  how do i get it back
[14:02] <sysrpl> i am in the us, east coast
[14:02] <mentr> ifconfig shows eth0 but no IP
[14:02] <bazhang> sysrpl, karmic was just released. repos will be slow
[14:03] <Shockrates> bazhang: i would have never figured alone
[14:03] <Shockrates> .lol
[14:03] <DexterLB> repos for my mirror are superfast :P
[14:03] <sysrpl> but 2000 bytes per second slow?
[14:03] <epinky> mentr: and?
[14:03] <damagednoob> how do you turn off multiple workspaces in karmic koala ?
[14:03] <bazhang> sysrpl, mine are even slower
[14:03] <sysrpl> bazhang: but 2000 bytes per second slow?
[14:03] <kubuntuser> nperry: there is still no alpha. So what would be the point? The point of #ubuntu+1 is to get support for alpha/RC version
[14:04] <mentr> epinky: and what?
[14:04] <wsch> how do i get grub legacy please :(
[14:04] <lukas__> Hi all, I've just succeded in installing 9.10 on my desktop. It uses and old and borken CRT that fails to send the correct edid, but I managed to create a working modeline with cvt for 1024x768. is there any way I can get Ubuntu to use this mode as early as during the boot process and the login screen? in 800x600, it's all quite unusable to me
[14:04] <zob> anyone else having problems with flash on the new 9.10, 64bit (only when compiz is turned on - and embedded videos in particular)? Fx. this site: http://www.linuxhaxor.net/
[14:04] <epinky> mentr: never minds
[14:04] <sysrpl> bazhang: it took me four hows to install a video driver so i could put away my crt ... ubuntu was refusing to use any resolution other than 2048x1526
[14:04] <Baughn> mplayer refuses to go into fullscreen on 9.10. Help!
[14:04] <sysrpl> bazhang: it took me four hours to install a video driver so i could put away my crt ... ubuntu was refusing to use any resolution other than 2048x1526
[14:05] <sysrpl> it took me four hours to install a video driver so i could put away my crt ... ubuntu was refusing to use any resolution other than 2048x1526
[14:05] <revant> Zob: are you on Nvidia?
[14:05] <DexterLB> O M G
[14:05] <zob> revant, yes nvidia
[14:05] <Paraj> Is there a nifty GUI to modify Grub on 9.10?
[14:05] <Younder> the nvidea driver works for me
[14:05] <wsch> how do i get grub legacy please? if i boot 8.10 i dont have ext4 support and 9.10 dpes not seem to have grub-legacy
[14:05] <lukas__> I'm on an old i915, btw.
[14:05] <sysrpl> four hours was the download time
[14:06] <aguitel> wsch, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1247994
[14:06] <sysrpl> bazhang: four hours was the download time
[14:06] <Athanasios> My problem is that the video card drivers from the software center dont work, so i downloaded a driver from ati and got a .run file, when i then open it, "Run in Terminal" as an executable, it uncompresses, and then when installing i get an message saying, "you need to run this as a super-user" then it exits the terminal. Can someone help?
[14:06] <doos> zob: yes, but only with the flash controls (youtube etc)
[14:06] <revant> zob: then switch to metacity for a while when you watching youtube
[14:07] <epinky> Athanasios: use sudo
[14:07] <kahen> i'm puzzled. who the heck decided that traceroute6 should be included in karmic, but not traceroute?!
[14:07] <Younder> Athanasios, so run it as supersuser, use sudo su
[14:07] <wsch> aguitel: and how can i make sure grub installas to my partirion only?
[14:07] <Shockrates> Athanasios: ela re athanasie ubuntiane
[14:07] <Paraj> kahen: a genius :P
[14:07] <wsch> aguitel: i dont want it on my MBR
[14:07] <Athanasios> i cant use sudo
[14:07] <johnmn3> hi.  I'm at a loss.  I can't figure out what's wrong with apt
[14:07] <zob> doos, yes flash controls on youtube site, but can't play embedded videos unless i switch off compiz
[14:07] <Younder> Athanasios, ?
[14:07] <epinky> Athanasios: why?
[14:07] <Athanasios> i open the file from the file browser into the terminal
[14:08] <johnmn3> I'll do a "sudo aptitude install vlc" for instance
[14:08] <revant> zob: Its because of nvidia binary drivers
[14:08] <zob> revant, how is the easy way to switch to metacity? Is that the compiz-switch?
[14:08] <Paraj> apt-get
[14:08] <johnmn3> Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "vlc"
[14:08] <lukas__> anybody? Help with setting custom modes for intel/kms during boot?
[14:08] <aguitel> wsch, i think you need in mbr to normal boot
[14:08] <epinky> Athanasios: use command line interface
[14:08] <zob> revant, ok. so a nvidia driver update might help?
[14:08] <revant> yes with the fusion-icon its on the fly
[14:08] <pronoy> johnmn3: have you enabled the repositories ?
[14:08] <doos> zob: same here, ati video though
[14:09] <Rumo> hi out there... Im trying to activate USB's at SUN virtualBox but without success...
[14:09] <wsch> aguitel: i got another bootloader on my MBR, with that one i can start grub on a partirion, it worked like that before
[14:09] <sysrpl> why would setup use 2048x1526 as the default resolution? that is very stupid
[14:09] <revant> no.. Driver is updated at Nvidia's will :)
[14:09] <wsch> bala: still around?
[14:09] <sysrpl> most lcds can't support that
[14:09] <Athanasios> how do i open the file from the terminal so i can use sudo?
[14:09] <johnmn3> pronoy: I'm pretty sure.. from the sources gui tool
[14:09] <kahen> keyserver.ubuntu.com is insanely slow at the moment O_o
[14:09] <johnmn3> using apt-get: E: Couldn't find package vlc
[14:09] <pronoy> johnmn3: do sudo apt-get update
[14:09] <aguitel> wsch, what bootloader?
[14:09] <revant> zob: sudo apt-get install fusion-icon
[14:10] <wsch> aguitel: BCD (windows)
[14:10] <zob> doos, it seems we are more people with that problem, so I guess someone will be looking for a fix soon. In the meantime compiz-switch is helpful.
[14:10] <Younder> revant, nvidea drivers seem reliable to me
[14:10] <epinky> Athanasios: ALT+F2 , then enter xterm and execute
[14:10] <wsch> aguitel: and no i cannot replace it
[14:10] <ulisse> 'lo guys
[14:10] <johnmn3> pronoy: did it a hundred times. but it's like the database it pulls down is wrong.. wondering if I should post up my sources.list somewhere
[14:10] <nperry> Athanasios: What type of file is it?
[14:10] <wsch> aguitel: i wont take the risk i dont trust grub
[14:10] <ulisse> anybody using blender here?
[14:10] <aguitel> wsch, i not working with this so
[14:10] <doos> zob: flash videos from other sites eg. dumpert.nl (dutch) doesn't seem to have that problem
[14:10] <Younder> they are not part of the ubuntu distribution though
[14:10] <Athanasios> .run
[14:10] <sysrpl> why would setup use 2048x1526 as the default resolution? that is very stupid. most lcds can't support that and just go black during setup after 15 minutes, once ubuntu reaches the setup configuration screen
[14:10] <Rumo> hi out there... Im trying to activate USB's at SUN virtualBox but without success...
[14:10] <nperry> sudo ./file.run
[14:11] <wsch> aguitel: no problem, thanx for trying to help anyway
[14:11] <nperry> ^^ Athanasios
[14:11] <FLJohn> how do I upgrade from 8.04 to 9.04 without losing what I have on my drive?
[14:11] <revant> Nvidia + compiz = problems (my experience)
[14:11] <pechenie> ati + linux = problems (my expirience)
[14:11] <DexterLB> yup
[14:11] <Younder> FLJohn, shouldn't be  a problem
[14:11] <FLJohn> Yes pecheneie
[14:11] <zob> doos, yeah that's true. maybe only youtube embedded.
[14:11] <CrazyTux> Hey guys, ok this is driving me crazy
[14:11] <pronoy> johnmn3: no idea then...sorry,
[14:11] <FLJohn> yon
[14:12] <CrazyTux> I've got a Logitech wireless nano mouse
[14:12] <DexterLB> especially ati pre-HD
[14:12] <aguitel> wsch, i think windows bootloader NOT boot linux
[14:12] <CrazyTux> My single clicks are 95% of the time interpreted as a double click
[14:12] <CrazyTux> I've googled and found lots of results in regards to this, but no specific solution as of yuet
[14:12] <CrazyTux> yet*
[14:12] <sharperguy> What command needs to be running to display the volume control in the notification area?
[14:12] <CrazyTux> So I thought I'd stop in here, anyone else experience this same behavior / know of a fix?
[14:12] <Younder> CrazyTux, get a new mouse
[14:13] <CrazyTux> Younder: this is a $120.00 brand new mouse
[14:13] <CrazyTux> Younder: I do not think it is the mouse
[14:13] <CrazyTux> Younder: and it works perfectly on windows.
[14:13] <DexterLB> OMG I've been talking to myself, didn't know I hadn't identified with nickserv :D
[14:14] <DexterLB> can you see me now?
[14:14] <pronoy> DexterLB: :D
[14:14] <bala> wsch: hey
, it is not a bug, it's a feature?)
[14:14] <DexterLB> so
[14:14] <magicbu> quit
[14:14] <pronoy> whats happening to the bots ?
[14:14] <sysrpl> why would setup use 2048x1526 as the default resolution? that is very stupid. most lcds can't support that and just go black during setup after 15 minutes, once ubuntu reaches the setup configuration screen
[14:14] <wsch> bala: hi
[14:14] <DexterLB> I also tried removing ALL stertup applications, including gnome settings daemon, still the same effect
[14:14] <CrazyTux> pechenie: how can I resolve this feature, I've tried adjusting the threshold to its MAXIMUM
[14:14] <pronoy> sysrpl: so don't
[14:14] <DexterLB> I upgraded to karmic and created a new user. Now on when gnome starts X restarts if I haven't selected failsafe gnome.
[14:14] <bala> wsch: how did it work out for you?
[14:14] <Younder> pechenie, that is unhelpful
[14:14] <wsch> bala: so grub is not in my repo
[14:14] <DexterLB> I also tried removing ALL stertup applications, including gnome settings daemon, still the same effect
[14:14] <johnmn3> peace
[14:14] <CrazyTux> pechenie: but it is still 95% of the time interpreted as a double click
[14:15] <wsch> bala: 9.10: grub not in repos
[14:15] <revant> zob: can you play youtube now?
, maybe hardware problem?
[14:15] <wsch> bala: 8.10 no ext4 support
[14:15] <bala> wsch: uhm,
[14:15] <Rumo> hi out there... Im trying to activate USB's at SUN virtualBox but without success...
[14:15] <CrazyTux> pechenie: again, it works fine on windows
[14:15] <DexterLB> Rumo: what guest OS?
[14:15] <CrazyTux> pechenie: on the SAME hardware
[14:15] <johni> epinky, here is my wpa_supplicant log : http://pastebin.com/m29dd868c
[14:15] <CrazyTux> pechenie: and this is a brand new like $120.00 mouse
 that's strange...
[14:15] <johni> epinky, not sure why the association fails :(
[14:15] <wsch> bala: also my repos are broken, i cannot do apt-get update (and yes this is a clean install.....)
[14:15] <bala> wsch: that sounds odd, because, i had already upgraded to 9.10 when this happened,
[14:15] <Rumo> DexterLB: home ubuntu guest winXP
[14:16] <sysrpl> pronoy: so don't what?
[14:16] <zob> revant, yes I can play youtube when I switch off compiz, so it's not about life and death, just slightly annoying.
[14:16] <wsch> bala: i have a clean isntall, not a upgrade
[14:16] <DexterLB> Rumo: and what USB device do you want to attach?
[14:16] <wsch> what in gods name happened to ubuntu :(
[14:16] <pronoy> sysrpl: don't use it as the default resolution... !
[14:16] <DexterLB> reboot brb
[14:16] <wsch> im really concerned i cannot ever use linux anymore other then in a virtual machien
[14:16] <pronoy> wsch: it got better :D
[14:16] <bala> wsch: that is true, my repos were already pointing to 9.10 when i did this, so the grub package must have come from there.
[14:16] <sysrpl> pronoy: i wasn't offered a choice
[14:16] <epinky> johni: pre-shared key may be incorrect
[14:17] <pronoy> sysrpl: boot into recovery and try recoverx
[14:17] <epinky> johni: post wpa_supplicant.conf
[14:17] <bala> wsch: anyway, another option is to manually download the package from ubuntu archives site, and install it using dpkg
[14:17] <Rumo> DexterLB: i have 3 devices , usb-stick, camera and modem
[14:17] <pronoy> sysrpl: or fix x
[14:17] <wsch> bala: good idea
[14:17] <sysrpl> pronoy: setup just runs for 15 minutes, dumps to a text scren, then everything goes black and all the drives stop spinning
[14:17] <johni> epinky, did not change the configuration from 9.04 and rechecked to make sure (with wpa_passphrase) that it still matches
[14:17] <sysrpl> pronoy: this was during setup
[14:17] <pronoy> sysrpl: ok so you haven't installed ubuntu then have you ?
[14:17] <wsch> where can i report broken crapmirrors plese?
[14:18] <wsch> its possible my intire country has this problem by default....
[14:18] <wsch> oh wait nobody cares anyway
[14:18] <cornwall> Hi, every time I resume my computer, Apport tells me I have a serious kernel error. It then tells me that it can't get any information about the problem. Is there a log I can see?
[14:18] <sysrpl> pronoy: i am on another pc at the moment
[14:18] <zmjjmz> is it advisable to run a partial upgrade if you're upgrading from karmic beta?
[14:18] <cornwall> (I'm on karmic)
[14:18] <bradpitt> wsch : contact the webmaster.
[14:18] <pronoy> sysrpl: so the setup has a resolution of whatever that is you mentioned ?
[14:18] <johni> any other ideas?
[14:19] <sysrpl> pronoy: why does the setup au such a crazy resoltution 15 minutes into setup?
[14:19] <bazhang> cornwall, apport has a bug filed against it in karmic
[14:19] <epinky> johni:  What are you using in your AP?
[14:19] <ksdfpr1> hi 2 all
[14:19] <epinky> johni
[14:19] <bala> wsch: i can see the grub package in karmic repository, though. : http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/grub
[14:19] <epinky> johni: WPA or WPA2?
[14:19] <pronoy> sysrpl: mine doesn't...so i really can't say, are you using a GPU ?
[14:19] <ksdfpr1> can anyone explain what to do to work my sata (here is the way http://wiki.debian.org/pata_marvell but I m only few minutes user!!!
[14:19] <johni> epinky, WPA2
[14:20] <cornwall> bazhang, thanks, I've been unsuccessful in finding a report...
[14:20] <wsch> bala: i dunno why i cannot see it then
[14:20] <bala> wsch: what exactly is the problem with your repo?
[14:20] <wsch> bala: oh wait sorry i do know
[14:20] <sysrpl> pronoy: setup switched to an unsupportedreolution of 2048x1526 after about 15 miutesaiting while watching the u logo
[14:20] <bazhang> cornwall, let me try to dig it up
[14:20] <sysrpl> pronoy: ubuntu logo
[14:20] <cornwall> bazhang, thank you very much
[14:20] <wsch> bala: Could not connect to be.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (195.238.1.5), connection timed out
[14:20] <pronoy> sysrpl: are you using a GPU /
[14:20] <bala> wsch: ah
[14:20] <Paraj> lol, funny that the grub.d scripts are create a grub.cfg that Grub2 keeping bitching about because it's using deprecated options.... on a new release :P
[14:20] <wsch> bala: half of it downloads fine
[14:20] <Paraj> creating*(
[14:20] <Exile> hey guys I'm running 9.10 and does anyone know how I can get the 'Add/Remove programs' like in 9.04?
[14:20] <bala> wsch: try again. :)
[14:20] <apuokas> hi, anybody having problems with chaotic firefox fonts?
[14:20] <sysrpl> pronoy:  have an nvidiagrapcard is that is what you wanted to ask
[14:21] <apuokas> that can't be changed through settings?
[14:21] <wsch> bala: i guess when they loose half of all users in my country they will probably fix it
[14:21] <pronoy> sysrpl: yes, you might want to disable that and then try
[14:21] <sysrpl> pronoy:  nvidia graphics card
[14:21] <johni> epinky, my wpa supplicant has proto=WPA RSN
[14:21] <bala> wsch: this sounds like a temp problem with the net connection
[14:21] <sysrpl> pronoy: disable the video card?
[14:21] <henux> does Empathy support OTR or does it have OTR plugin?
[14:21] <bala> wsch: or maybe a lot of people are upgrading to karmic right now ;)
[14:21] <pronoy> sysrpl: are you on a laptop ? or a desktop ?
[14:21] <wsch> bala: nope yesterday same situation
[14:21] <BlouBlou> henux: no, it doesn't support
[14:21] <sysrpl> pronoy: desktop
[14:22] <johni> epinky, the only difference would be the driver compiled differently for this kernel. was reading online that there two options for wpa2 support
[14:22] <mave83> hi, I looking for some help (prefered in german). I have a ATI 4870 with 2 Monitors and installed the (i know, i know) closed FGLRX driver. I got my Gnome Dektop on 2 screens and can move windows from one to the other. My Problem is I want the right screen als "main" and the left as additional space (so that the gnome menu is shown on the right screen), but I can't find a way to do that ;(
[14:22] <bala> wsch: i see, you can change the mirror if you wan
[14:22] <bazhang> wsch, slow mirrors?
[14:22] <henux> BlouBlou: and no plugins?
[14:22] <Fenix1> anyone know anything about bind
[14:22] <DexterLB> I'm back
[14:22] <wsch> bazhang: since when is that slow? it does not respond
[14:22] <Paraj> wsch: You're having problems with grub too right? What version of grub are you running currently? Try 'grub-install -v'
[14:22] <bala> wsch: you could choose a mirror which responds fine from your country
[14:22] <kane77> for quite a while now I get Capabilities mismatch with server when trying to connect to Ubuntu One.. Is anyone having the same?
[14:22] <pronoy> sysrpl: try removing the graphics card, running the setup, then later plugging it in. The hardware drivers will be installed later
[14:22] <wsch> bala: yeah im gonna try
[14:22] <teyteydragon> guys my bluetooth, card reader and webcam didn't work at ubuntu 9.10, my lspi: http://pastebin.com/m56215b5a
[14:22] <bazhang> wsch, karmic +2 days release will be the cause
[14:22] <BlouBlou> henux: ubuntu's empathy is old version, it doesn't have anything
[14:22] <epinky> johni: could you post wpa_supplicant.conf?
[14:22] <Rumo> DexterLB: I restart my computer but still the same problem with usb
[14:22] <pronoy> sysrpl: but be careful
[14:22] <henux> BlouBlou: got it
[14:23] <D3RGPS31> bazhang: did you find it o:
[14:23] <wsch> bazhang: oh great :S i guess
[14:23] <henux> BlouBlou: thank you
[14:23] <kankan_> how to install grub legacy
[14:23] <bazhang> D3RGPS31, just a second, loading now
[14:23] <wsch> bazhang: i must honestly say im really disappointed in this release
[14:23] <sysrpl> pronoy: oh great, and when i remove the video card, how shall i know what is happening?
[14:23] <DexterLB> Rumo: but what device do you want to connect? A FDD? A camera?
[14:23] <teyteydragon> guys my bluetooth, card reader and webcam didn't work at ubuntu 9.10, my lspi: http://pastebin.com/m56215b5a
[14:23] <wsch> some peopple's harddisks dont get detected while they worked fine aith all previous releases
[14:23] <SkyHigh> just got finished upgrading to 9.10!!!!
[14:23] <BlouBlou> henux: try pidgin
[14:23] <wsch> and apprentlyits very normal that repos do not respond
[14:23] <DexterLB> now the other B I G question: in karmic DNS lookups are SO slow! In all apps, even wget. Anyone else experiencing this?
[14:24] <pronoy> sysrpl: 1st you'll be able to install ubuntu(hopefully). there is a serial port other than the graphics card, native to the motherboard
[14:24] <wsch> and on top of that grub2 installs broken by default if you choose a partition instead of MBR
[14:24] <bazhang> wsch, at this point in time sure
[14:24] <pronoy> sysrpl: plug your monitor into that
[14:24] <Nauser> wsch oh really? I was going to upgrade too ... thanks
[14:24] <emma> BlouBlou, i wonder why they replaced pidgin with empathy if empathy has no support or plugins.
[14:24] <artcore> teytey: how about wifi ?
[14:24] <johni> epinky, wpa configuration http://pastebin.com/d4691588c
[14:24] <SkyHigh> whats the difference of 9.04 and 9.10???
[14:24] <wsch> bazhang: im assuming actual releases should work fine, or not get released
[14:24] <Nauser> so karmic is totally broken?
[14:24] <DexterLB> SkyHigh: HUGE
[14:24] <emma> Sky3RN, .06
[14:24] <Rumo> DexterLB: when no machine is active I can configure the filters... but when the machine runs, all USB devices are grayed out...
[14:24] <Exile> hey guys why is the ubuntu software center so crap?
[14:24] <FLJohn> Ok is there a Sudo for upgrading from 8.04 to 9.04 without losing anything on the hardrive?
[14:24] <wsch> Nauser: i didnt update i installed from scratch
[14:24] <artcore> skyhigh: many
[14:24] <Exile> its not installing anything
[14:24] <emma> SkyHigh, .06
[14:24] <kankan_> anyone know how to install grub legacy?
[14:25] <Paraj> wsch: What version of grub are you running currently? Do a 'grub-install -v'
[14:25] <pronoy> !upgrade | FLJohn
[14:25] <SkyHigh> >_> like wat the differences??
[14:25] <sysrpl> pronoy: why are you assuming i have a seial port other than the graphics card on my system. i don't
[14:25] <artcore> Nauser:  not totally :)
[14:25] <wsch> Paraj: first things first, i need to fix me repositories or i can forget about using ubuntu
[14:25] <DexterLB> Rumo: did you try right-clicking the USB icon in the VirtualBox system tray?
[14:25] <BlouBlou> emma: because people normally hates pidgin, and Canonical changes to another one... what is better, yes, but *new* version, don't change by old version, it hasn't got anything :s
[14:25] <bradpitt> Exile : what do ya want to install?
[14:25] <wsch> bala: i cannot find any working repos, can you just tell me which one you use?
[14:25] <pronoy> sysrpl: the motherboard usually is equipped with one.
[14:25] <Nauser> hmm, I guess I'll stick with Debian for mission critical things
[14:25] <mave83> how to make the right screen to primary on a dual screen setup? (ati driver)
[14:25] <bazhang> D3RGPS31, is this amd
[14:26] <DexterLB> SkyHigh: new fancy bootloader, new fancy usplach, new fancy gdm, and lots of more new fancy cool stuff :P
[14:26] <emma> BlouBlou, yeah that's a bummer. OTR is good technology to be in a messenger.
[14:26] <Exile> a lot of software from the repos
[14:26] <johni> epinky, initially got those values from the iwlist scan
[14:26] <artcore> Nauser:  i'm right now under 9.10 - works fine with one BIG but
[14:26] <revant> Software center is crap because its 1.0 Hope it will rock when it reaches 3.0
[14:26] <Rumo> DexterLB: thats where they are grayed out...
[14:26] <Deihmos> is there a way to get microsoft fonts?
[14:26] <DexterLB> SkyHigh and lots of lots of cool new fancy bugs
[14:26] <DexterLB> :P
[14:26] <Exile> well can I use the old add/remove programs
[14:26] <Exile> ?
[14:26] <bala> wsch: oh, i use the indian mirror, in.archives
[14:26] <sysrpl> pronoy: my motherboards do not. i don't buy stuff with integrated video.
[14:26] <artcore> new version new bugs
[14:26] <Exile> I got a lot to intsall
[14:26] <emma> The new Ubuntu comes with the feature that your wishes come true.
[14:26] <fliebel> hello, im currently going through a new Karmic installation process, im at the "prepare partitions" screen (I dual boot with Vista). There used to be a "use free space" button, but there isnt. What options should i choose to install a fres 9.10 over 9.04?
[14:26] <computa_mike1> Hi -
[14:26] <SkyHigh> lol, yea i noticed the kick ass boot screen, i thought that was really cool! but it lagged a little bit cause my computer sucks :(
[14:26] <windwhinny> Deihmos,copy...
[14:26] <BlouBlou> emma: I never used it, I sometimes use msn, normally I use irc, or just phone with friends heh
[14:26] <joaopinto> Exile, you can, but the new software center is the default
[14:26] <D3RGPS31> bazhang: yes
[14:27] <DexterLB> emma: yeah, especially the quickly command
[14:27] <bazhang> Deihmos, its in the ubuntu-restricted-extras package
[14:27] <DJones> !fonts | Deihmos
[14:27] <fliebel> I have just made 72444MB of free space <-- 1x Primary /   and 1 swap?
[14:27] <teyteydragon> guys my bluetooth, card reader and webcam didn't work at ubuntu 9.10, my lspi: http://pastebin.com/m56215b5a
[14:27] <joaopinto> emma, except that it's not reliable :)
[14:27] <wsch> bala: ill see if that one works, if grub is fixed i can change it back anyway
[14:27] <sysrpl> pronoy: what next?
[14:27] <ancientpaint> I have a question about pidgin on ubuntu 9.10
[14:27] <ancientpaint>  I am trying everything to stop pidgin from running when I start ubuntu....but I can't fig out how to do it
[14:27] <HorizonXP> hey, my touchpad is shaky since upgrading to karmic. any ideas on how to fix it?
[14:27] <pronoy> sysrpl: ok sorry then, that was the only solution i could think of. Try posting your question again. and the resolution you mentioned ins' the default resolution btw
[14:27] <computa_mike1> I was thinking about installink Karmic on my system - I have a separate Home partition which I already use for jackelope - are there any special installation instructions?
[14:27] <Paraj> Well I fixed my problem, even though Grub2 was booting I still had Grub1 crap around (even on a complete fresh install? mbr?) so following the upgrade process to grub to grub2 worked
[14:27] <bazhang> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/440233 D3RGPS31 could be this
[14:27] <Prage> could anyone tell me what those green bars are: http://i35.tinypic.com/wl59uu.png
[14:27] <DexterLB> every new distro is not reliable until the first few of updates
[14:27] <ksdfpr1> can anyone explain what to do to work my sata (here is the way http://wiki.debian.org/pata_marvell but I m only few minutes user!!!
[14:27] <Rumo> DexterLB: thats where they are grayed out... (status bar)
[14:27] <HorizonXP> when i leave my finger on my touchpad, the pointer seems to "shake" in a small square
[14:27] <DexterLB> Rumo: ok
[14:28] <D3RGPS31> bazhang thank you
[14:28] <Paraj> Must have selected the wrong bootloader options during install :/
[14:28] <Exile> kool joaoppinto do you know how?
[14:28] <HorizonXP> it also seems to "misclick" sometimes as a result when i'm using it normaly
[14:28] <DexterLB> Rumo: hmm
[14:28] <Exile> it would make me very happy
[14:28] <Paraj> Dr_Willis: Thank you for responding :)
[14:28] <henux> joaopinto: how not reliable?
[14:28] <sysrpl> why would setup use 2048x1526 as the default resolution? that is very stupid. most lcds can't support that and just go black during setup after 15 minutes, once ubuntu reaches the setup configuration screen. an NO i don't have integrated video on my mobo, onan nvidia card
[14:28] <johni> epinky, any ideas ?
[14:28] <DexterLB> Rumo: /join #vbox
[14:28] <epinky> johni: put just RSN on proto
[14:28] <ubuntard> Why cant ubuntu's udev keep a static ip address
[14:28] <epinky> proto=RSN
[14:28] <bazhang> cornwall, was this an upgrade from jaunty to karmic (the apport bug)
[14:29] <bratiz> how 2 undelete files??
[14:29] <Rumo> DexterLB: what does it mean?
[14:29] <wolfgang> wolfgang
[14:29] <ubuntard> I have to do the eth0 eth1 eth2 eth3 bullshit each time
[14:29] <DexterLB> anyone else experiencing very slow DNS lookups on karmic?
[14:29] <cornwall> bazhang, yes, it was. Did it the day it came out
[14:29] <mave83> how to make the right screen to primary on a dual screen setup? (its allways the left one)
[14:29] <ubuntard> I can't believe that shits not fixed
[14:29] <preecher> after upgrading to 9.10 i lost 2 progs and they arent listed in ubuntu software center or synaptic--they are wireshark root and zenmap root--does anyone know how i can get them back or will i be better to go back with u 9.04
[14:29] <bazhang> ubuntard, watch the language
[14:29] <ubuntard> even when you set it thru the network mgr
[14:29] <DexterLB> Rumo: go to the #vbox chat room and ask there
[14:29] <KiiK> Hi, how to remove all folder (but not remove files in dir) with command
[14:29] <cornwall> bazhang, Apport is "gathering information" as we speak (first time it has done that: Usually it just fails)
[14:29] <epinky> johni: also just put your clear text pass-phrase between ""
[14:29] <usser> mave83, move the monitors around :)
[14:29] <Rumo> DexterLB: ok
[14:29] <Rumo> DexterLB: thank you a lot!
[14:29] <usser> KiiK, with find
[14:30] <bratiz> i did rm * .rar insted of *.rar how can i get othr files back_
[14:30] <Prage> can I repeat a question?
[14:30] <fliebel> Would "logical" and "mount point: /" be good for a dualboot system? overwriting 9.10 over 9.04
[14:30] <DexterLB> Rumo: Don't mention it, I did nothing :(
[14:30] <bazhang> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic/+source/update-manager/+bug/465619 cornwall might be this
[14:30] <mave83> i tryed this, but this will only cause my desktop to be wrong (i have to move windows to the wrong side and the Gnome Panel is still on the wrong screen ;()
 do you know how I would install the old 'add/remove' thingy?
[14:30] <Nalleman> hi, i would like to start all over with ubuntu. Whipe out my present distro and make a fresh install. how should I do?
[14:30] <llutz> bratiz: get your backup, restore the files
[14:30] <epinky> johni: psk="myclearpasswd"
[14:30] <sysrpl> why would setup use 2048x1526 as the default resolution? that is very stupid. most lcds can't support that and just go black during setup after 15 minutes, once ubuntu reaches the setup configuration screen. an NO i don't have integrated video on my mobo, onan nvidia card
[14:30] <cornwall> bazhang, is apport not supposed to be enabled? :-)
[14:30] <D3RGPS31> bazhang: that link wasn't about 2d acceleration :c
[14:31] <bazhang> Nalleman, get the iso, burn to cd then boot from cd
[14:31] <johni> epinky, let me try :)
[14:31] <vika23> i was wondering why network manager does not up my nic , i have to use ip link set dev eth0 up , every time after boot
[14:31] <splashote> hey, i get a screeninit failed after trying to downgrade X following this guide http://tan-com.com/posts/technology/fix-ubuntu-904-ati-driver-issue
[14:31] <Nalleman> bazhang, will it be no problem with grub?
[14:31] <bratiz> !!!! i have lost all my files in download dir
[14:31] <wsch> bala: ok i finally got working repos
[14:31] <bratiz> is no way for fixing__
[14:31] <Dr_Willis> Nalleman:  backup anything impornatnat..  boot install cd.. and reformat/reinstall is one way...
[14:31] <bazhang> D3RGPS31, you can look at that site, and then look for others, or file a bug yourself
[14:31] <usser> KiiK, ie find /path/to/lookin -type d -exec rm -r {} \; BE CAREFUL, rm -r is dangerous combined with find especially, dont run this command i wrote if you dont understand what it does
[14:31] <wsch> bala: so now apt-get install grub would install grub to my MBR right?
[14:31] <bazhang> Nalleman, dual boot?
[14:31] <ubuntard> udev is total fail
[14:31] <Nauser> Ok, so the general consensus is NOT to install Karmic under any circumstances?
[14:32] <sysrpl> why would setup use 2048x1526 as the default resolution? that is very stupid. most lcds can't support that and just go black during setup after 15 minutes, once ubuntu reaches the setup configuration screen. an NO i don't have integrated video on my mobo, only an nvidia graphics card
[14:32] <bazhang> Nauser, no
[14:32] <Nalleman> bazhang, yes, i have xp as well
[14:32] <fliebel> Would "logical" and "mount point: /" be good for a dualboot system? overwriting 9.10 over 9.04, dual booting with vista
[14:32] <Dr_Willis> wsch:  that would install grub package.. update-grub command would then install the grub bootloader to the drive's mbr
[14:32] <wsch> Nauser: just take backups
[14:32] <dAlfa89_> Hey, say I had two HDD's, and Ubuntu was on one, how would I enter the other in fstab?
[14:32] <bazhang> Nalleman, you will be okay as xp is installed first
[14:32] <wsch> Dr_Willis: ok, and can i choose to have it NOT on my MBR?
[14:32] <Dr_Willis> fliebel:  / can be a logical or primary partition.
[14:32] <Nauser> wsch I'll just wait until they get rid of the major bugs. I've been stung a couple of times like this ...
[14:32] <Dr_Willis> wsch:   update-grub has options to tell it where to install to.
[14:32] <usser> dAlfa89_, that depends on what /dev node that other hdd is and what filesystem is on it
[14:33] <Dr_Willis> wsch:  i always put it on the MBR.
[14:33] <fliebel> Dr_Willis, its a HP and already has 3 partitions (backup stuff), is a 4th primary possible?
[14:33] <wsch> Dr_Willis: aaaah thanx man
[14:33] <bazhang> the grub2 is pretty informative if people actually read it
[14:33] <bazhang> the wiki that is
[14:33] <wsch> Dr_Willis: i have BCD on the MBR and that can boot grub, i need BCD there because of something else that grub cant boot
[14:33] <Dr_Willis> fliebel:  4 primaries max. one of which Can be a extended.. extended partitions hold logicals..
[14:33] <sysrpl> Dr_Willis: why would setup use 2048x1526 as the default resolution? that is very stupid. most lcds can't support that and just go black during setup after 15 minutes, once ubuntu reaches the setup configuration screen. an NO i don't have integrated video on my mobo, only an nvidia graphics card
[14:33] <SingAlong> is there anyway to modify the settings of the notifications?
[14:33] <fliebel> Dr_Willis, so i could make a primary with 9.10 and an extended swap
[14:33] <Dr_Willis> wsch:  good luck then. Ive never needed bcd..  :)  what can grub not boot?
[14:33] <usser> sysrpl, the resolution is autodetected, its not default
[14:34] <SingAlong> the notifications are very annoying. i atleast want to reduce the time for which a notification is displayed
[14:34] <SingAlong> anywhere i can change the settings of the notifications?
[14:34] <usser> fliebel, not that it matters much nowadays, but i prefer to put swap as the first primary partition
[14:34] <bazhang> !bugs | D3RGPS31
[14:34] <Dr_Willis> fliebel:   3 primaries. 1 extended with 2 logicals (/ and swap) is proverly what you need.. unless you remove some primaries
[14:34] <wsch> Dr_Willis: i just did update-grub --help... i think it wrote to my MBR :'(
[14:34] <sysrpl> usser: why is setup detecting an unsupported resolution?
[14:34] <johni> epinky, here is a new log ... no luck http://pastebin.com/d76119803
[14:34] <Dr_Willis> wsch:  it pays to read the docs/man pages I guess
[14:34] <SingAlong> anyone?
[14:35] <Dr_Willis> wsch:  whtout a sudo on the front.. i doubt if it did.
[14:35] <Mave82> re.. disconnected my monitor and caused ubuntu9.10 to stop working xD
[14:35] <fliebel> Dr_Willis, so i cant make the ubuntu partition primary, and extend the swap on it?
[14:35] <wsch> Dr_Willis: im chrooted...
[14:35] <crypto_> is linux mint better than ubuntu in hardware support?
[14:35] <bazhang> wsch, you have read the grub2 wiki correct?
[14:35] <usser> sysrpl, some monitor manufacturers dont entirely adhere to standards and it may confuse ubuntu's xorg
[14:35] <Dr_Willis> fliebel:  4 primaries Max.. IF you want a extended partition.. then you lose a primary
[14:35] <bazhang> crypto_, please take to #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:35] <wsch> bazhang: no, i hate grub2 and i never want to use it
[14:35] <Dr_Willis> crypto_:  i dont think so.
[14:35] <usser> sysrpl, you can boot into safe graphics mode, its an install cd you're trying to boot, correct?
[14:35] <fliebel> Dr_Willis, tnx, im going to change a bit in my vista area then
[14:36] <usser> crypto_, they are identical
[14:36]  * Dr_Willis will stick with grub2 for now. :)
[14:36] <Mave82> usser: i switched the monitor connectors.. it worked xD maybe there should be a message or a option to do that by screen setup
[14:36] <c3l_> is ubuntu known to have a problem with flash buttons? lol
[14:36] <sysrpl> usser: i've tried both a samsung lcd, and a dell lcd and have the same problem. are you saying it's the same fault with both monitor manufactures?
[14:36] <splashote> any chance to get gnome running after screen init failed?
[14:36] <Dr_Willis> fliebel:  normally windows dosent like it if its not on  the first primary. thats somthing to watch out for.
[14:36] <usser> sysrpl, in that case, your problem is something else
[14:36] <bazhang> sysrpl, this is livecd?
[14:36] <Daedalus-Sax> hello, i was about to install nvidia's driver for ubuntu 9.10, and so i used ctrl-alt-f1. in there i get this in a constant printout till the end of time: powernow-k8: failing targ, change pending bit set
[14:36] <epinky> johni: "proto=RSN" right?
[14:36] <fliebel> Dr_Willis, I have HP recovery partitions.. never used them
[14:37] <myxiplx> Hey folks, can anybody give me a hand getting 9.10 to boot from a 2nd hard disk?
[14:37] <wsch> Dr_Willis: im looking for a solution for 3 or 4 days now, it would be nice if you could jsut tell me how to use update-grub to install it to a partirion (/dev/sda6)
[14:37] <Daedalus-Sax> and i didn't get this in 9.04
[14:37] <johni> epinky, correct
[14:37] <linnuxxy> does wubi use desktop CD or the alternative CD?
[14:37] <epinky> johni: now change to proto=WPA2 and see if it works
[14:37] <SkyHigh> how do i get my bluetooth to work? i have the adapter in, but when i go to add new device it doesnt recognize them...
[14:37] <sysrpl> usser: this is the i386 32 bit 9.10 iso on a cd
[14:37] <wsch> Dr_Willis: i would even be amased if it was possible with update-grub
[14:38] <Dr_Willis> wsch:  actuyally it may be 'grub-install' for that.    update-grub calls grub-install
[14:38] <SingAlong> anyone on the notifications system settings?
[14:38] <sysrpl> bazhang: this is the i386 32 bit 9.10 iso on a cd
[14:38] <bazhang> sysrpl, and you tried in safe mode?
[14:38] <test34> In Liferea 1.6.0, my Unread folder says I have one unread, but it is empty and it still says 1 even if I right click it and chose "Mark All as read". What can I do to clear the Unread Folder?
[14:38] <usser> sysrpl, there's a safe mode option
[14:38] <Dr_Willis> wsch:  grub-install /dev/sda1  from what i just read on the grub docs
[14:38] <splashote> what to do to get a gnome running after "sreen init failed"
[14:38] <eugenio> hey does anyone know how to put into work my fingerprintreader, i have a hp dv5t-1000
[14:38] <sysrpl> bazhang: all i see is "install" "try out" and "test cd for defects"
[14:39] <linny> hi all anyone having trouble with speeds from gb.archive.ubuntu.com i have a 50meg speed and im getting less that 50kb/s from it, do you think its busy because of karmics rls
[14:39] <sysrpl> usser: all i see is "install" "try out" and "test cd for defects"
[14:39] <bazhang> linny, that is happening every where as it is karmic release day +2
[14:39] <wsch> Dr_Willis: ok thanx reboot time
[14:39] <usser> sysrpl, at the bottom it should say "you can press f6 or f5 button, for options" or some such dont quite remember
[14:39] <linny> yea i thought as much thanks
[14:39] <teyteydragon> guys my bluetooth, card reader and webcam didn't work at ubuntu 9.10, my lspi: http://pastebin.com/m56215b5a
[14:39] <raven_> hi - i cannot use machine-names (dns) - something wrong with my ubuntu settings or with the dns? tnx
[14:39] <KiiK> usser: do I missing something ? it remove all my files and dir,  find ./ -type d -exec rm -r {} \;
[14:40] <Mave82> what e-mail client is the best to handle >100k mails?
[14:40] <bazhang> Mave82, per day?
[14:40] <Dr_Willis> KiiK:  for things like that - its good to test with 'echo' not rm
[14:40] <artcore> lol
[14:40] <Athanasios> ok, well, i got the file to run, but the setup wont finish
[14:40] <Mave82> no overall (last 2 years) and with deleted spam
[14:40] <SingAlong> ah! someone????
[14:40] <eugenio> does anyone knows how to make a fingerprintreader to work
[14:40] <johni> epinky, nothing ... still receive errors
[14:40] <Dr_Willis> KiiK:  sure you want -r and not -R ?
[14:40] <Athanasios> i get to the options and it says it is aborted
[14:41] <SingAlong> how do you guys put up with the stupid notifications?
[14:41] <c3l_> whats the correct way to give httpd read and write access to specific files/folders
[14:41] <epinky> ok, wpa_supplicant is 755 right?
[14:41] <bazhang> SingAlong, which ones
[14:41] <SingAlong> NotifyOSD sounds like a big problem
[14:41] <yhuang> i just upgraded to 9.10 from 9.04 and im missing theme for desktop and login screen
[14:41] <yhuang> no human theme
[14:41] <Dr_Willis> KiiK:  http://www.wagoneers.com/UNIX/FIND/find-usage.html
[14:41] <yhuang> plain login screen
[14:41] <epinky> johni: wpa_supplicant executable is 755 right?
[14:41] <SingAlong> bazhang: it keeps popping up some notification or the other. I just want to change its settings. any idea how i can do that?
[14:41] <dAlfa89_> usser, sorry to bother you, would it be safe to assume that the name of the drive (In /dev/disk/by-uuid) would be the name I put in fstab, before the mounting point?
[14:41] <yhuang> any help?
[14:41] <usser> KiiK, did you run it from within the directory you trying to tidy up?
[14:42] <bazhang> SingAlong, sorry, could you give an example application or notification message?
[14:42] <daho> where can I get avant themes??
[14:42] <KiiK> yes. I run it in my testing directory
[14:42] <usser> KiiK, ie running find test/ -type d rm -r {} \; removes test directory
[14:42] <johni> epinky, correct 755
[14:42] <SingAlong> bazhang: I'm refering to the notifications that appear on the right of the screen.
[14:42] <raven_> hi - i cannot use machine-names (dns) - something wrong with my ubuntu settings or with the dns? tnx
[14:42] <epinky> johni. you've got to make sure WPA2 only is set on your AP
[14:42] <bazhang> daho, gnome-look.org ?
[14:42] <SingAlong> bazhang: I want to change its settings or disable it atleast
[14:42] <usser> KiiK, ie running find ./ -type d rm -r {} \; from inside test directory doesnt
[14:43] <johni> epinky, I do not think I have control over that
[14:43] <bazhang> SingAlong, ah like transmission, or music player changing track and such?
[14:43] <SingAlong> bazhang: the notifications stick for too long on my screen. something like 5 seconds. and mine is a netbook screen and its really annoying
[14:43] <usser> KiiK, you can see what gets selected for removal by running find ./ -type d
[14:43] <SingAlong> bazhang: no. lol. the notifications.. "switched to battery power", "connection lost", etc that appear on top
[14:43] <japanferd> hey all, got a little problem with my soundcard, getting alot of static and jumpyness, whilst it still plays the song, it's still unlistenable. Running an XFi, only issued since the update to 9.10
[14:43] <epinky> if you can't then use WPA, maybe that's causing the problem
[14:43] <asd_> ddd
[14:43] <artcore> wpa2-psk not working on intel cards w/o firmware patch
[14:44] <epinky> johni: if you can't then use WPA, maybe that's causing the problem
[14:44] <atterdag> does anyone have any idea why udev is creating devices nodes in wrong path?
[14:44] <pcalc> hi
[14:44] <artcore> use wep be happy
[14:44] <splashote> hot to UNLOCK a lot of packets within the terminal?
[14:44] <arand> Oh, joy, now the dupes start plopping in for the no-icons "bug" :/
[14:44] <Mave82> any hint to choose the right e-mail proggy to handle >100k e-mails (I don't want to delete them, except spam)?
[14:44] <usser> dAlfa89_, yes, also run blkid just to make sure
[14:45] <pcalc> where is the menu services in ubuntu karmic ?
[14:45] <Dr_Willis> splashote:  clarify what you mean.
[14:45] <Mave82> on windows I used "the bat!"
[14:45] <knumar> every time my computer starts I have to manually change the screen resolution from 87hz(interlace) to the correct 75hz. I do this in the nvidia x server settings program in the system menu in ubuntu, and I have to do this after every single restart of the computer. How can i change the HZ permanently?
[14:45] <johni> epinky, but it worked with 9.04 ... that is why I do not understand what is going on ... the only difference that I can think of is a different compilation of the drivers
[14:45] <petsounds> Mave82 : thunderbird?
[14:45] <Athanasios> Im running Ubuntu in Virtualbox, i have an ati hd 4570M and i am trying to get the driver to install, i dled it and got it to run, but now when i try to continue the setup it aborts "ERROR: vcdk is missing. Installation aborted."
[14:45] <Dr_Willis> knumar:  run the nvidia-settings program as root.. and save the changes to the xorg.conf. i dont think that menu item launches it with the root permissions
[14:45] <usser> knumar, run nvidia configuration utility with sudo and if i remember correctly it had save changes to xorg.conf button
[14:45] <Dr_Willis> knumar:  gksudo nvidia-settings
[14:45] <epinky> drivers, that's right but change to WPA and see if it works
[14:46] <Mave82> petsounds: don't know, is it good? can it handle large pop3 accounts?
[14:46] <johni> epinky, in the wireless settings I have two options when I try WPA2 - the encryption algorithm TKIP or TKIP+AES
[14:46] <LSD|Ninja> How is Mobile Broadband supposed to work? I see the tab in network manager, I have my connection set up (I think), but I don't see where to enable the connection
[14:46] <arand> Athanasios: the virtualbox guest tools?
[14:46] <artcore> for what installing ATI drivers in VM ?
[14:46] <epinky> TKIP+AES
[14:47] <splashote> how to UNLOCK PACKAGES within the terminal?
[14:47] <petsounds> Mave82 : it is great, you'll love it :)
[14:47] <epinky> johni: TKIP+AES, TKIP and CCMP, right?
[14:47] <usser> Athanasios, virtualbox doesnt have direct access to graphics card, instead guest OS should use virtualbox's own drivers, install guest additions
[14:47] <bourke> hi can anyone tell me the file that contains modules to load on boot?
[14:47] <johni> epinky, not sure what you mean
[14:47] <Athanasios> ok thx
[14:47] <Dr_Willis> splashote:  unlock packages makes no sence.   You can Install packages (.debs) with dpkg -i whatever.deb
[14:47] <bazhang> splashote, which packages
[14:48] <epinky> johni: just use TKIP+AES
[14:48] <bazhang> splashote, do you mean tar.gz .zip .rar and the like?
[14:48] <johni> epinky, that is what I use (correct)
[14:48] <Mave82> petsounds: k I will try out, thanks ;)
[14:48] <_Narc_> Hi everyone. Just a simple question. Last time I installed Jaunty, I put my Home on a separate partition and I wondered if there's anything i should mind during the install, except for not overriding my hom partition of course. What about using the same username ? Would the installer create a new folder or use the old one without touching it ? Thanks
[14:48] <johni> epinky, as far as I know    TKIP+AES = CCMP TKIP
[14:49] <computa_mike1> Can i just ask - is there a recommended IRC client for Ubuntu - I'm on Jackelope, and what I find is that if someone replies to my question it scrolls off the edge before I have had a chance to reply..  Anyone recommend a good client or plugin or something?
[14:49] <epinky> johni: did you switch to WPA? not WPA2
[14:49] <johni> let me try
[14:49] <Guest97736> hello
[14:49] <bazhang> computa_mike1, what are you using now
[14:49] <Guest46458> can anyone recommend a decent firewall that dont need anykind of programming cus new to this os.
[14:49] <petsounds> Mave82 : np
[14:49] <Dr_Willis> computa_mike1:  i reccomend using xchat
[14:49] <johni> epinky, on WPA should I use TKIP or AES ?
[14:49] <dios_mio> do guys notice that the notify box appears not exactly in the corner?
[14:49] <computa_mike1> bazhang: I've got pidgin
[14:49] <Dr_Willis> Guest46458:   do you really need a firewall?
[14:49] <splashote> bazhang: no, i was trying to downgrade x-server to use ati-drivers within jaunty. therefore i "locked" the old intrepid packages (xserver, ati etc.) within synaptic. now i get a "screen init failed" and want to try to update the locked packages to get my ubuntu back
[14:49] <Dr_Willis> !firewall | Guest46458
[14:49] <epinky> johni: just TKIP
[14:50] <knumar> dr_willis, shall i merge with existing file when saving to xorg conf?
[14:50] <Dr_Willis> dios_mio:  yes. ive seen that.
[14:50] <pechenie> anyone uses DRI2 on ATI with Koala?
[14:50] <Arsin> Hey, my mouse doesn't want to work after the login any udea why?
[14:50] <Dr_Willis> knumar:  thas what i do.
[14:50] <bazhang> computa_mike1, irssi weechat xchat konversation quassel there are a ton
[14:50] <usser> _Narc_, when installing you have to partition manually and set your home partition mount point to /home, if the folder that corresponds to your username already exists on /home installer wont touch it. the only problem you might have is broken permissions, due to different uid of your old user and new one, but that easily fixable once everything is installed
[14:50] <SingAlong> holy shit! NotifyOSD sounds like a bloody bug to me.
[14:50] <Dr_Willis> knumar:  i also keep backups of my old xorg.confs when i  make changes.. just in case
[14:50] <raven_> cannot access a machine using the DNS-Name - what can i do?
[14:50] <Daedalus-Sax> how do i stop it from printing "powernow-k8: failing targ, change pending bit set" on the screen
[14:50] <japanferd> anyone know how to change my sound output from 96khz to 48khz? (using opt. obviously)
[14:50] <Dr_Willis> raven_:  if its a static ip. you could put its name/ip in /etc/hosts
[14:50] <usser> raven_, do you have a dns server on your network?
[14:50] <Guest46458> im new to all this doc and programming im not good with! im currently running firestarter but im getting loads of serious incoming attempts
[14:51] <computa_mike1> bazhang: ok - i'll try those...
[14:51] <raven_> usser yes
[14:51] <_Narc_> usser: Okay, that's what I thought, but wanted confirmation, thanks :)
[14:51] <raven_> Dr_Willis, no it's not static
[14:51] <Dr_Willis> Guest46458:  dont run services you dont need..   I let my router block most everything.
[14:51] <ultimatepower> jo
[14:51] <brunoscunha> hi
[14:51] <usser> raven_, is it home network with router/dns or serious network with its own dedicated dns?
[14:51] <KiiK> run ./ -type d, it include ./ and /test , so how can i exclude ./
[14:51] <Guest46458> im not on a router. im hooked up directly to cable modem
[14:51] <dios_mio> Dr_Willis, why is it not exactly in the corner? thats annoying
[14:52] <KiiK> run find ./ -type d, it include ./ and /test , so how can i exclude ./
[14:52] <_Narc_> usser: Once Karmic installed, if any permissions problem appears, running chmod -R would be enough ?
[14:52] <kankan_> desktop effects could not be enabled
[14:52] <brunoscunha> i've downloaded karmic and burned it to a dvd, and no matter what I do, I can't make it boot on my laptop
[14:52] <Dr_Willis> dios_mio:  no idea. i rarelys see it.. and on my 2 monitor setup.. its basically in the middle of the monitosrs..  so i dont worry about it.
[14:52] <ultimatepower> karmic is sooo buggy
[14:52] <brunoscunha> is the iso available bootable or not=
[14:52] <brunoscunha> ?
[14:52] <Bodsda> KiiK: ./ is just the current working directory
[14:52] <raven_> usser home
[14:53] <Dr_Willis> brunoscunha:  its bootable.
[14:53] <jason__> how about karmic
[14:53] <Dr_Willis> brunoscunha:  if you burn it correctly :)
[14:53] <Dracofodder> Hello everyone.  I just finalized my upgrade from Jaunty to Karmic.. So far I like what I see int he new release... but, I had the compiz settings on before the upgrade (low level, just allowing things like scroll wheel switch between workspaces) and now, it appears to be disabled and I cannot find where to set this up again... I have nvidia video FX 5950, and in that dilaog I thought there was a setting for the 3D support.  I don't see that anymore.)
[14:53] <artcore> brunoscunha, try to burn dvd with lower speed
[14:53] <brunoscunha> I used brasero at 3.6x
[14:53] <xrfang> hello, why the Services Manager disappeared in 9.10? Help please.
[14:53] <brunoscunha> maybe slower
[14:53] <johni> epinky, still no luck :(((
[14:53] <Dr_Willis> brunoscunha:  whats on the cd? one BIG iso file? or lots of files?
[14:54] <Guest46458> doc im running directly from cable modem with firestarter. i dont want to go back to that other rubbish os cus of a problem like this.
[14:54] <epinky> johni: proto=WPA ?
[14:54] <KiiK> I am in CWD, run find ./ -type d -exec rm -r {} \; and it remove my /test dir and zip file in CWD, why ?
[14:54] <usser> _Narc_, chown -R
[14:54] <brunoscunha> I glots of files
[14:54] <kane77> Dracofodder, do you have the compizconfig-settings-manager package installed? that's where you set details of compiz..
[14:54] <Bodsda> Dracofodder: turn it on through the 'Appearence' dialog. Configure compiz through 'ccsm' compizconfig-settings-manager
[14:54] <brunoscunha> *lots
[14:54] <raven_> usser, Dr_Willis what can i do to identify where the problem is?
[14:54] <_Narc_> usser: Oh, right, thanks
[14:54] <Guest97736> tk'ptun
[14:54] <Dr_Willis> Guest46458:  you are proberly worring about nothing..  install some firewall front end.. and set up some basic rules..  even without a firewall its safer then windows
[14:54] <nonix4> Hrm, altcd install stuck at 26% of creating users... is that a known issue or is it just slow?
[14:54] <usser> raven_, most routers have crippled dns, you can try using winbind to resolve hostnames, if you have any windows machines on the network
[14:54] <johni> epinky, switched my router to WPA,  updated proto to WPA, pair and group to TKIP
[14:54] <artcore> brunoscunha, did you try live cd?
[14:54] <raven_> usser no i haven't
[14:54] <amar> restored my Firefox profile of Vista in Ubuntu using FEBE. Some extensions like Gears is not working. How to remove such extensions?
[14:55] <brunoscunha> don't have live cd
[14:55] <suppermann> Hello. How do I get the initrd.img and vmlinuz files for the new version of ubuntu?
[14:55] <Raiders32> I just upgraded from Jaunty to Karmic.  Now evolution doesn't work.  When I run evolution from the command line I get messages saying: "/usr/local/lib/libxml2.so.2: no version information available ...".  Any suggestions on how to fix this?
[14:55] <hghgd> hey I'm having some sound issues
[14:55] <Bodsda> KiiK: Im no expert but it looks like that command will execute the rm -r command on the results of the find command
[14:55] <hghgd> not sure, I just don't get sound from applications, system sounds work
[14:55] <Dracofodder> kane77: would the upgrade have removed that package?  I'm checking now.. Bodsda: am looking there too..
[14:55] <brunoscunha> it just does not boot
[14:55] <epinky> johni: scan_ssid=1 ?
[14:55] <kankan_> i cannot enable desktop effects
[14:55] <wsch> Dr_Willis: so my MBR is messed up, thanx for your harmfull advice
[14:55] <sgm> anyone aroudn to assist with atheros drivers?
[14:55] <Helsinkiii> hi
[14:55] <Guest46458> thanks doc. so all these serious incoming connections i keep seeing like ipv6 etc are nothing to worry about?? cus i know nothing about ubuntu yet...still learning as i go.
[14:55] <artcore> Raiders32, try to upgrade evolution
[14:55] <Helsinkiii> how can i set permanent "open with" in ubuntu
[14:55] <Dr_Willis> wsch:  w you are welcome.
[14:55] <binrapt> I installed Ubuntu 64-bit 9.10 in Virtual Box on a Windows 7 host system. I forgot to increase the number of CPUs to 8 right when I was installing it - it was still set to 1. Now that I increased it to 8 and rebooted the VM g++ no longer works: "g++: Internal error: Bus Error." Any ideas?
[14:55] <johni> epinky, yeap
[14:55] <jason__> I can't install vim-full
[14:55] <Helsinkiii> i hate how my MP3s open with MovePlayer
[14:55] <Helsinkiii> MoviePlaer*
[14:55] <brunoscunha> but after booting ubuntu, the dvd contents shows up when i insert the dvd
[14:55] <kane77> Dracofodder, I believe upgrade should keep packages
[14:55] <japanferd> has anyone here actually got an Xfi and have it working in 9.10?
[14:56] <epinky> johni: same error?
[14:56] <johni> epinky, correct
[14:56] <Bodsda> jason__: try vim-gnome
[14:56] <johni> epinky, exact same error about the pre-shared key
[14:56] <Raiders32> artcore: sudo apt-get upgrade evolution?
[14:56] <wsch> Dr_Willis: i reported you to the ops, i got to leave now though, to reinstall my intire system
[14:56] <Dr_Willis> Guest46458:   you could always set up some broad blocks - but  if people are scaning your machine looking for expoits they will still be doing so.
[14:56] <artcore> binrapt, your ubuntu will use smp mode
[14:56] <Dr_Willis> wsch:  perhaps you should read the grub docs..?
[14:56] <wsch> Dr_Willis: if it makes you feel any worse: i got backups of everything
[14:56] <jason__> Bodsda, is it the same thing?
[14:56] <bazhang> wsch, ??
[14:56] <wsch> Dr_Willis: perhaps YOU should read the grub docs before "helping" people
[14:56] <Sashi1> Hello does anybody know if it is possible to use "ring switcher" or something that looks like it without using compiz?
[14:57] <Dr_Willis> wsch:  whatever..
[14:57] <wsch> yeah sure
[14:57] <petsounds> helsinkii : right-click, properties, open with.
[14:57] <Guest46458> thanks doc. by the way, does anyone know of a programme i can use to encrypt a folder? i did try this keyring thing but cant get it working for some reason.
[14:57] <Dr_Willis> wsch:  yes sure..
[14:57] <epinky> johni: you'll have to recompile wpa_supplicant from sourcecode
[14:57] <artcore> Raiders32, sure
[14:57] <Bodsda> jason__: when I try to install 'vim-full' it installs 'vim-full' and 'vim-gnome'
[14:57] <binrapt> artcore anything I can do to fix it? :(
[14:57] <knumar> Dr_willis, thanks!! it worked
[14:57] <wsch> Dr_Willis: im not the one to decide, just reported it since your reaction
[14:57] <sgm> so i am trying to get my atheros wifi drivers to work. No luck
[14:57] <epinky> johni: and see if it works
[14:57] <binrapt> I guess I could just reinstall it from scratch but that sounds silly
[14:57] <sgm> anyone with experiance with these?
[14:57] <Helsinkiii> *how can i set program defaults for audio and video*
[14:57] <artcore> binrapt, you must reinstall it
[14:57] <Dr_Willis> gee now i feel bad..
[14:57] <binrapt> Are you serious? Oh boy
[14:57] <Raiders32> artcore:  I just tried it.  Zero files were upgraded
[14:58] <johni> epinky, you think there is a problem with correct version distributed with ubuntu ?
[14:58] <bazhang> Dr_Willis, nothing to feel bad about
[14:58] <Dr_Willis> I was going to ask him how installing the boot loader trashed his sytem.. but i guess he wouldent want to share.
[14:58] <johni> epinky, will try to reinstall wpa supplicant
[14:58] <isak-kar> \msg isak-kar dsadsa
[14:58] <Dr_Willis> bazhang:  thats what i was thinking also.
[14:58] <Dracofodder> kane77: thanks... unsure why, but it appears I have quite a few of the compiz components installed except the compiz-config-manager  will apply that and see how it goes.
[14:58] <Dr_Willis> bazhang:  hm stull wondering what he was gooting that Grub would NOT boot...
[14:58] <bazhang> he refused to read the docs and then blamed others for it
[14:58] <epinky> johni: maybe, with supplicant we're not sure of anything
[14:59] <Dr_Willis> bazhang:  so.. should i send him the bill or not? :)
[14:59] <jetienne> q. how much faster is 9.10 on intel gfx chip ? 915gm in my case
[14:59] <artcore> muah
[14:59] <bazhang> heh
[14:59] <Bodsda> Dr_Willis: its £200 isnt it?
[14:59] <artcore> jetienne, that what?
[14:59] <Dr_Willis> bazhang:  aparently he knew enogh to use BCP or whatever that is.. but not enough to read the grub docs.. i guess
[15:00] <bazhang> jetienne, it seems to have been fixed relative to jaunty you can check on launchpad
[15:00] <kane77> Dracofodder, it may be because it is in universe. I suppose upgrade removes universe packages, but I might be wrong..
[15:00] <Dr_Willis> and here ive spent MANY an hr reading the actual docs at grub.org  (or whatever its called)
[15:00] <johni> epinky, do you know a guide that can help me to install from source ?
[15:00] <jetienne> bazhang: ok
[15:00] <Daedalus-Sax> how do i turn off the constantly printing "chkconfig --del cpuspeed"
[15:00] <Daedalus-Sax> oops
[15:00] <bazhang> right BCD
[15:00] <Bodsda> bsd?
[15:00] <Dr_Willis> Ive yet to find a OS that grub couldent boot..
[15:00] <bazhang> some kind of super grub disk
[15:01] <hghgd> hey hey. I messed up my sound config, now I only have system sounds, no more application sounds. (pulseaudio). any ideas?
[15:01] <Daedalus-Sax> i meant how do you turn off the constantly printing "powernow-k8: failing targ, change pending bit set "
[15:01] <kane77> where is the proper place to file a bug for grub? launchpad or grub bugtracker?
[15:01] <raven_> usser?
[15:01] <usser> raven_, yea
[15:01] <RadSurfer> Can someone tell me please the Libraries needed for Ogg Vorbis support?
[15:01] <bazhang> !bugs | kane77
[15:01] <Daedalus-Sax> i can't do anything untill thats off
[15:01] <Bodsda> Dr_Willis: it refused to boot 'Skynet' for me... something about the end of the world, meh I wasnt expecting much from it anyway
[15:01] <Arsin> Hey, I'm having a problem where my mouse is dying off ater 3 seconds of use. I tried two mice and both are doing the same.
[15:01] <Dr_Willis> I need to write up that 'how to put a ubuntu.iso' on your hard drive parttion to make a 'restore' partition feature for ubuntu :)
[15:01] <erana> hghgd: in gnome try the system settings
[15:01] <raven_> usser, Dr_Willis what can i do to identify where the problem is?
[15:01] <Trezker> In system monitor I see a proces without a name and N/A under memory
[15:01] <bazhang> kane77, you could try either or both
[15:01] <matahari> how can i switch off that cups automatically configures a printer on karmic?
[15:01] <Trezker> what is that?
[15:01] <Dr_Willis> raven_:  ive frogotten what the probmlem even was.. :) mom called me just now on the phone.
[15:02] <mikejet> Is CompbizConfig standard now? I'm a little confused on what that is and how it is different from last release.
[15:02] <erana> matahari: for example kill cupsd somewhere
[15:02] <epinky> johni: this is very outdated but process still the same, just be sure to download latest version of source code  https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2004-November/010619.html
[15:02] <raven_> Dr_Willis, no dns-option
[15:02] <bazhang> mikejet, ccsm? you need to install it
[15:02] <kane77> bazhang, I am searching now if such bug already exists
[15:02] <Daedalus-Sax> powernow-k8: failing targ, change pending bit set constantly displays, so i cant fix the machine, how do you stop it? ubuntu 9.10 is installed
[15:02] <Trezker> The noname process keeps changing ID too...
[15:03] <Daedalus-Sax> !powernow
[15:03] <Dr_Willis> raven_:  well..  Ive never had that ever work other then for samba services.. just somthing i never use.   so i always use the /etc/hosts stuff and set my router/dhcp server to assign static ip's
[15:03] <Bodsda> Trezker: if the ID is changing then the program is ending and then being started again
[15:03] <DexterLB> hi
[15:03] <mikejet> bazhang : well everything seems fine without compbiz - not sure why i needed that before.
[15:03] <matahari> erana, but cups should still work. i just doens't want it to automatically recognize new devices. it breaks usb connection to these devices through vmware-server
[15:03] <aleite> Anyone having problem with intermitent wireless connection on karmic?
[15:03] <johni> epinky, the latest version posted on the website is 0.6.3 and it is the same as the one distributed with ubuntu
[15:03] <jo_> Hey, In the company we have a firewall and NAT-server and I want to SSH into a box behind the firewall. This is not possible because the of the adress translation. But it is possible to acces the windows machines with teamvieuwer. How can I acces my linux box?
[15:03] <johni> epinky, sorry 0.6.9
[15:03] <bazhang> mikejet, upgrade or fresh install?
[15:03] <Trezker> well it's always there, ID is up to 16000 now
[15:04] <erana> try the cups sysadmin tool, it's a webpage with a lgoin contained in the cups paxkage
[15:04] <DexterLB> I upgraded to karmic, and now gnome-panel and Xorg are taking my entire CPU. I think gnome-panel is making constant requests for something to Xorg. There's nothing except loading applets in the gnome-panel output.
[15:04] <mikejet> bazhang : fresh install. I think i needed it for multiple workspaces. dunno.
[15:04] <Daedalus-Sax> whoever set up powernow or whatever to constantly display an error message hasn't any brains, becuase then you can't diagnose, you can't type ina command or read what it says
[15:04] <dassouki> is there a way to make the volume mute when the icon is double clicked
[15:04] <Bjarni> *sigh* That update went well.... 9.04-9.10.  Can anyone help me get my gnome back?
[15:04] <bazhang> mikejet, same here (fresh install) dont see it in my preferences
[15:05] <Dr_Willis> dassouki:  perhaps go to that brainstorm  url and add that suggestion..
[15:05] <sl> hi
[15:05] <raven_> Dr_Willis, i need dynamic ips...
[15:05] <sl> someone can help me ?
[15:05] <Daedalus-Sax> gdm restart? (i'm assuming you meant the desktop, not the actual files)
[15:05] <erana> dassouki : you can mute it with alsa-tools
[15:05] <bazhang> sl please ask a question
[15:05] <epinky> johni: what drivers are you using? madwifi?
[15:05] <johni> wext
[15:05] <Dr_Willis> raven_:  i actually have dynamic ip's but only for machines ive not told the router to 'rember the ip' for.
[15:05] <johni> epinky, wext
[15:05] <Daedalus-Sax> or is it gdm--restart, i forget
[15:05] <sl> bazhang: i have a problem with upgrading 9.10 with internet and Alternate CD : http://www.ubuntu-pics.de/bild/29212/screenshot_001_7i1OCF.png
[15:06] <Dr_Willis> raven_:  so its the best of both worlds.. any new machines go to 192.168.1.100+  and my other box's stay where they are
[15:06] <carlos_> hello, i have a problem. Ive just deleted my panel where mi windows minimized i made another one but now windows dont minimize there the get lost after minimizing them plz HELP
[15:06] <mikejet> bazhang : I'm not a big fan of fancy window animation, so i'll stick with the default. it works great.
[15:06] <carlos_> hello, i have a problem. Ive just deleted my panel where mi windows minimized i made another one but now windows dont minimize there the get lost after minimizing them plz HELP
[15:06] <raven_> Dr_Willis, can i do anything on the system to tell the server it's name?
[15:06] <carlos_> plzz help
[15:06] <Bodsda> carlos_: right click on the panel and add the 'Window list'
[15:06] <Dr_Willis> carlos_:  right click, add to panel.. its  one item in there. :)
[15:06] <Daedalus-Sax> doesn anyone know how to make powernow stop reporting errors. it prints "powernow-k8: failing targ, change pending bit set" once a freakin' second, LOL
[15:06] <carlos_> hello, i have a problem. Ive just deleted my panel where mi windows minimized i made another one but now windows dont minimize there the get lost after minimizing them plz HELP
[15:06] <carlos_> hello, i have a problem. Ive just deleted my panel where mi windows minimized i made another one but now windows dont minimize there the get lost after minimizing them plz HELP
[15:06] <FloodBot3> carlos_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:06] <kermit> why cant i get anyhting to show up in the rootwin? (mplayer, screensavers)
[15:07] <Dr_Willis> raven_:  im not sure how it even get the names. other then via samba.  Theres some dns service you could be running . but ive never needed to mess with it on my 5 pc lan.
[15:07] <bazhang> sl at what point in the process did this occur? what does lsb_release -a say in terminal
[15:07] <dassouki> flash on 9.10 seems to be consuming 10 - 20% processor power, is this normal
[15:07] <erUSUL> !resetpanels | carlos_
[15:07] <Dr_Willis> raven_:  you are refering to the use of 'ping' and other commands right? or are you refering to samba share/server names?
[15:07] <cba123_> For some reason, my screen gets pixelated and I don't know why, seems to be some times when I play media, I currently I have ubuntu karmic nvidia 190 drivers, happened when I had ubuntu jaunty and 185 drivers too http://imagebin.ca/view/HN8QHY.html
[15:07] <Daedalus-Sax> i wouldnt be asking for help if there was something on the forum or whe i googled it, actually there is a lot of info, but no answer.
[15:07] <Daedalus-Sax> powernow-k8: failing targ, change pending bit set
[15:07] <raven_> Dr_Willis, vnc, ssh, ping,....
[15:08] <bazhang> cba123_, the 190 from nvidia site?
[15:08] <epinky> johni: what card is it?
[15:08] <sl> bazhang: it comes after that screen : http://www.ubuntu-pics.de/bild/29215/screenshot_002_z204P7.png
[15:08] <Dr_Willis> raven_:   then you need to do some dns stuff I think. thats one of the things ive not messed with.
[15:08] <jo_> Hey, In the company we have a firewall and NAT-server and I want to SSH into a box behind the firewall. This is not possible because the of the adress translation. But it is possible to acces the windows machines with teamvieuwer. How can I acces my linux box? I can't find a thing on goolge
[15:08] <Dr_Willis> raven_:  for my small lan. its just not worth the hassle.
[15:08] <cba123_> bazhang, Yes, same thing happened with 185 (from restricted drivers manager) on jaunty
[15:08] <erana> jo_: try the iptables docs
[15:09] <bazhang> cba123_, the 190 is beta?
[15:09] <erana> jo_: for kernels 2.4 and up
[15:09] <johni> epinky, ENCORE ENUWI-N
[15:09] <cba123_> bazhang, Not anymore, just released
[15:09] <artcore> jo_: NAT usually allow to connect to any ports outside
[15:09] <Daedalus-Sax> powernow-k8: failing targ, change pending bit set wont stop, pleas ehelp
[15:09] <bazhang> cba123_, not sure ; only install from hardware drivers here
[15:10] <sampo> :x
[15:10] <jo_> erana: I'll google iptables tx.
[15:10] <sl> bazhang: that happen just before the intallation
[15:10] <zorael> How can I unload my sound module (snd-hda-intel) when there are 17 sound modules in total depending on eachother?
[15:10] <bazhang> sl and the installation continued?
[15:10] <sl> bazhang: no
[15:10] <jo_> artcore: I mean that I want to connect from outside to my ubuntubox. :)
[15:11] <bazhang> sl so what does lsb_release -a say in terminal
[15:11] <VanRoy> hi
[15:11] <sampo> hi
[15:11] <sl> bazhang: can extra applications like ubuntu tweak bin in the cause of that ?
[15:11] <sl> bazhang: ok
[15:11] <MenDan> Hello,How to set nautilus as the default file browser?Because there are installed dolphin,But do not want to uninstall the dolphin.Thanks
[15:11] <artcore> jo_: then open port on your box but first You must sure that dst-nat is configured for You box ip
[15:11] <sl> bazhang: LSB Version:	core-2.0-ia32:core-2.0-noarch:core-3.0-ia32:core-3.0-noarch:core-3.1-ia32:core-3.1-noarch:core-3.2-ia32:core-3.2-noarch:core-4.0-ia32:core-4.0-noarch:cxx-3.0-ia32:cxx-3.0-noarch:cxx-3.1-ia32:cxx-3.1-noarch:cxx-3.2-ia32:cxx-3.2-noarch:cxx-4.0-ia32:cxx-4.0-noarch:desktop-3.1-ia32:desktop-3.1-noarch:desktop-3.2-ia32:desktop-3.2-noarch:desktop-4.0-ia32:desktop-4.0-noarch:graphics-2.0-ia32:graphics-2.0-noarch:graphics-3.0-ia32:graphics-3.0-noarch:
[15:11] <sl> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
[15:11] <sl> Description:	Ubuntu 9.04
[15:11] <sl> Release:	9.04
[15:11] <FloodBot3> sl: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:11] <sl> Codename:	jaunty
[15:11] <sampo> package manager
[15:12] <johni> epinky, I am trying to get wpa_supplicant from source ... lets see how that works
[15:12] <bazhang> sl lets keep it here in channel please
[15:12] <[manas]> i thinking to intall ftp server i google it and i found it to many of them i just want very simple one and easy to install and ofcourse secure so my friends can download and upload some data any ideas
[15:12] <VanRoy> I would like to extract some extracts (2 samples , 5 minutes) from my DVDisc, how can I do that , please ?
[15:13] <nonix4> as a reply to myself: yes, it was just really slow after/at the user creation part
[15:13] <epinky> johni: but you've got to compile wpa_supplicant against your wireless card source code driver
[15:14] <johni> epinky, holly smoke ... have no clue what those are
[15:14] <erUSUL> !ftpd | [manas]
[15:14] <D3RGPS31> using any fglrx driver under ubuntu 9.10, i have no 2D acceleration; on 9.04 i did and all was fine; ati 4850
[15:14] <artcore> [manas]: apt-get install proftpd
[15:15] <epinky> johni: it should be using Ralink rt2870 chipset
[15:15] <johni> epinky, that is correct
[15:16] <Defcon1> anyone have any advice for how I can get grub2 to recognize a windows7 partition?
[15:16] <johni> epinky, where do I specify the driver ?
[15:16] <kudi> anyone else wish they did a fresh install instead of upgrading?
[15:16] <D3RGPS31> kudi: i regret both :D
[15:16] <Bjarni> Hi - gdm seems gone after the 9.04-9.10 update - I only have the tty.  What to do?  Reinstall gdm?  Should I get gdm2 then?
[15:16] <sl> bazhang: My default language is arabic but i tried to make the upgrade from an english session.
[15:17] <kudi> D3RGPS31: theres something about firefox 3.5
[15:17] <epinky> johni: you've got to edit Makefile and point to driver' source code path
[15:18] <D3RGPS31> kudi: i like the new firefox o: just the lack of fglrx support (from both sides >.>)
[15:18] <johni> epinky, I do not think I have the source code for the driver
[15:18] <sl> bazhang: are u here ?
[15:18] <infogulch> hi guys. i just tried to install 9.10, but nothing recognizing my file system. i have 2 sata 3 drives
[15:18] <bazhang> sl yep
[15:19] <erUSUL> infogulch: bios raid ?
[15:19] <incorrect> is there a way to configure gdm, i can't see how to change the theme etc any more
[15:19] <johni> epinky, looks like it is a big task ... I will leave it for another day
[15:19] <kudi> D3RGPS31: for some reason after browsing the web for a couple mins my system freezes, thats never happened before
[15:19] <infogulch> no raid
[15:19] <sl> bazhang: so have an idea of what i should do ?
[15:19] <johni> epinky, thank you very much for your help. I appreciate all the advice
[15:19] <epinky> johni: you've got to get it, and compile it and load it
[15:19] <MenDan> Hello,How to set nautilus as the default file browser?Because there are installed dolphin,But do not want to uninstall the dolphin.Thanks
[15:19] <bazhang> sl hang on im on the phone
[15:19] <epinky> johni: you're welcome and good luck
[15:19] <erUSUL> infogulch: make sure sata controller is in ahci mode works best for linux that way
[15:19] <sl> bazhang: k
[15:19] <infogulch> erUSUL: in bios?
[15:20] <erUSUL> infogulch: correct
[15:20] <infogulch> ok. anything else?
[15:20] <artcore> infogulch: you don't drives or partitions?
[15:20] <johni> ls
[15:20] <erUSUL> infogulch: no; without any other info i can not think on anything else
[15:20] <artcore> don't see
[15:20]  * |Logitech| brb
[15:20] <artcore> sry
[15:21] <dixon85> hi.  I was just wondering if anyone could help. I've just installed Karmic Koala. I've backed up my old ssh private key using seahorse, but in Karmic I can't import the key...
[15:21] <infogulch> artcore: i don't see either
[15:21] <infogulch> gparted says:  "No devices detected"
[15:22] <zebastian> I'm on ubuntu hardy using lxde as desktop environment, how do i change the default file manager from pcman file manager to nautilus?
[15:22] <artcore> infogulch: strange, usually any linux systems see any kind of drives
[15:22] <infogulch> and when i get to the manage partitions part of the 9.10 setup it just stays totally blank
[15:22] <artcore> infogulch: what BIOS said? drives are online?
[15:22] <infogulch> that's what i  was thinking
[15:22] <bdelin88> i was doing a distribution upgrade on my intrepid server remotely and i guess the connection got lost after all the files were downloaded.  There was a config screen that came up, how can i resume that configuration?
[15:23] <dog> I just upgraded my system to 9.10. When I run Update Manager, it crashes. Any suggestions?
[15:23] <artcore> dog apt-get update from console
[15:23] <kudi> dog: a lot of things are crashing for me
[15:23] <DexterLB> I upgraded to karmic, and now gnome-panel and Xorg are taking my entire CPU. I think gnome-panel is making constant requests for something to Xorg. There's nothing except loading applets in the gnome-panel output.
[15:24] <DexterLB> What can I do?
[15:24] <infogulch> artcore: i'm gonna try a restart
[15:24] <infogulch> thx guys
[15:24] <preecher> after upgrading to 9.10 i lost 2 progs and they arent listed in ubuntu software center or synaptic--they are wireshark root and zenmap root--does anyone know how i can get them back or will i be better to go back with u 9.04
[15:24] <infogulch> see you in a bit
[15:24] <erUSUL> bdelin88: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude safe-uppgrade && sudo dpkg --configure --pending
[15:24] <Bodsda> DexterLB: kill the panels (killall gnome-panel) and see if it was a one off
[15:24] <DexterLB> Bodsda: tried that. X restarts.
[15:24] <rdz> is it true, that acpi-cpufreq and and other similar modules are not modules anymore, but compiled directly into the kernel?
[15:24] <DexterLB> :(
[15:24] <kamagatos> preecher
[15:24] <preecher> kamagatos,
[15:25] <Bodsda> DexterLB: that sounds strange, X should not restart
[15:25] <erUSUL> rdz: probably done to speed up boot
[15:25] <kamagatos> preecher: i still have wireshark but u can try to reinstall it from the project website
[15:25] <rdz> erUSUL, i see.. it's a reasonable reason.... too bad :-(
[15:25] <DexterLB> yes but it restarts because I haven't done a clean install since gutsy... :(
[15:25] <erUSUL> rdz: yep
[15:25] <Deihmos> trying to locate the font settings for widows 7 so i can match it with ubuntu
[15:25] <bdelin88> erUSUL: it says unable to lock admin directory
[15:25] <rdz> erUSUL, thanks for the info
[15:25] <drools> how do i set grub to default to booting vista?
[15:25] <preecher> i have wireshark--but b4 the upgrade i had wireshark and wireshark as root
[15:26] <MarkusVN> help me plz
[15:26] <DexterLB> (please don't tell me to DO a clean install, you're not helping :-D )
[15:26] <erUSUL> bdelin88: reason ?
[15:26] <preecher> same thing with zenmap
[15:26] <MarkusVN> Help me plz
[15:26] <erUSUL> !aptlock | bdelin88
[15:26] <bdelin88> erUSUL: couldn't rebuild package cache, could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock ?
[15:26] <kamagatos> preecher just run it from the terminal
[15:26] <dios_mio> hey how do i change my hostname?
[15:26] <dog> artcore: Thanks, that runs without a crash. Does that command perform the equivilant actions to the Update Manager, no need for an 'install' or other commands?
[15:26] <erUSUL> bdelin88: make sure first that no apt is still running
[15:26] <MarkusVN> I cant login
[15:26] <kamagatos> preecher as root
[15:26] <MarkusVN> i cant even login to Recovery mode in 9.10
[15:26] <Bodsda> dios_mio: edit /etc/hostname ?
[15:26] <preecher> i tried but it doesnt give me root privledges as b4
[15:27] <preecher> wait lemme try
[15:27] <Bodsda> preecher: gksudo wireshark
[15:27] <rdz> erUSUL, i don't know, if your're familiar with phc-linux, it let's you undervolt your cpu in order to save power. however, it requires to build acpi-cpufreq as a module... it means recompiling the kernel entirely in recent versions of ubuntu...
[15:27] <bdelin88> yea i think that worked it asked to force kill a process (dpkg)
[15:27] <MarkusVN> Help me PLZZZZ
[15:27] <MarkusVN> i cant login my Karmic
[15:28] <dios_mio> Bodsda, thats exactly what i had in mind man! but i thought maybe ubuntu has some wizardy thing for that too
[15:28] <erUSUL> rdz: no i'm not familiar with it. but is third party thing so... you are on your own i guess
[15:28] <MarkusVN> i cant even login to recoverymode after Hibernate :(
[15:28] <supersasho> hi.. i've got problem with proftpd, it wont restart .. when i type "sudo /etc/init.d/proftpd restart" it says "ProFTPd is started from inetd/xinetd." (new installation of karmic)
[15:28] <Bodsda> dios_mio: Linux is entirely based on config files. There probably is a graphical way of doing it, but chances are it just edits that file :)
[15:28] <kamagatos> preecher try sudo wireshark, it works here
[15:28] <kamagatos> preecher: i hav the same privilege
[15:29] <erUSUL> !hostname | dios_mio
[15:29] <DexterLB> top
[15:29] <Daedalus-Sax> ok i fixed my last error, it was caused by giving vga some extra ram. now i need to totally stop gdm, but gdm stop used after i ctrl-alt-f1 just puts me back to what i am trying to stop, the x server.
[15:29] <preecher> kamagatos,  and Bodsda  thx a million--im a noob and its working ok with the gksudo command
[15:29] <MarkusVN> Help :'(
[15:29] <DexterLB> oops
[15:29] <leoncino240> salve
[15:29] <Bodsda> erUSUL: just out of interest, why would sudo stop working if I changed my hostname in /etc/hostname but not in /etc/hosts ?
[15:29] <dios_mio> thx erUSUL man
[15:29] <Bodsda> preecher: your welcome
[15:29] <MarkusVN> Help meeeeee
[15:29] <MarkusVN> help me plzzzz
[15:29] <Bodsda> !helpme | MarkusVN
[15:29] <robin0800> MarkusVN: did you not set a username and password
[15:30] <kamagatos> preecher,  :)
[15:30] <MarkusVN> no
[15:30] <erUSUL> Bodsda: it bails out saying it can not resolve "hostname" (dunno why it need to do it though)
[15:30] <leoncino240> ciaooo
[15:30] <MarkusVN> it crash at the splash screen
[15:30] <Bodsda> erUSUL: yeah, I was confused why it would need to know that. Oh well. Cheers
[15:30] <BCCHowdy> Good morning!  I'm confused about "software channels".  I'll search for something in the software center and not find it.  So I download the .deb package from a website.  Every one of them that I've run says "There's a newer version available in the software channel".  As far as I know all of the possible repositories are checked in the software center.  Why can't I find it and what does this mean?
[15:31] <lukas__> !repeat
[15:31] <ShakaGoldSaint> can haz kms? haz radeon r480
[15:31] <Bodsda> !who > lukas__
[15:31] <flan_suse> How do I configure the GDM login screen on Karmic like I used to be able to on Jaunty?
[15:32] <zorael> How would PulseAudio affect battery life?
[15:32] <[manas]> artcore, how to configure now proftpd???
[15:32] <MarkusVN> logout
[15:32] <MarkusVN> then Alt F1
[15:32] <lukas__> Bodsda and ubottu, using empathy I cannot easily distinguish private messages from public ones
[15:32] <Bodsda> zorael: it is probably more power hungry then alsa, but not by much
[15:32] <MarkusVN> to tty menu
[15:32] <robin0800> BCCHowdy: try synaptic package manager
[15:32] <ShakaGoldSaint> !kms
[15:32] <Daedalus-Sax> how do you stop xserver? i have tried 3 different commands (9.10)
[15:32] <erUSUL> Daedalus-Sax: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[15:32] <ShakaGoldSaint> Daedalus-Sax, sudo service gdm stop ?
[15:32] <kamagatos> flan_suse: the new GDM wont work with ur old theme, there is no way to configure it right now, just be patient (it has been totaly rewrite)
[15:33] <BCCHowdy> Checking...
[15:33] <erUSUL> !search gdm
[15:33] <MarkusVN> help meeeeeeeeeeeee
[15:33] <Daedalus-Sax> yeah, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop doesn't work
[15:33] <flan_suse> kamagatos, so they are looking into bringing back the same functionality of the former GDM setup?
[15:33] <Guest64599> Sorry to butt in, but could someone answer a question about wireless drivers? (not necessarily related to Ubuntu)
[15:33] <MarkusVN> i cant login cause of crash splash screen
[15:33] <MarkusVN> after hibernate i cant login
[15:33] <robin0800> Daedalus-Sax: you have to set it in the keyboard settings first
[15:33] <Daedalus-Sax> i tried both those commands, gdm refuses to stop
[15:33] <Daedalus-Sax> how do i do that?
[15:34] <supersasho> Hi guys. I've got problem with proftpd, it wont restart. when i type "sudo /etc/init.d/proftpd restart" it says "ProFTPd is started from inetd/xinetd." (new installation of karmic, in intrepid it was just fine)
[15:34] <Xcell> Daedalus-Sax-  ctl+alt+f4   then enter that command
[15:34] <Daedalus-Sax> ohh, not f1, hmm thanx
[15:34] <kamagatos> flan_suse: dont know. i think they told nothhing 4 the moment
[15:34] <l0l3> hey guys, is there a way to repair ubuntu?
[15:34] <MarkusVN> helppppppp
[15:34] <l0l3> 9.10 messed everything up
[15:34] <MarkusVN> i cant login after hibernate
[15:35] <randomtime> l0l3: did you do an upgrade?
[15:35] <BCCHowdy> hmmm.  Found it.  So what's the difference between synaptic and software center?  Asthetics?
[15:35] <zorael> Will I need an -rt kernel to use PulseAudio without getting bad sound?
[15:35] <tonyyarusso> So, I just started up Empathy, and I got a notification bubble that someone requested that I add them as a contact, but I can't figure out how to actually approve it.  Ideas?
[15:35] <randomtime> MarkusVN: can you log in after rebooting?
[15:35] <l0l3> hey guys, is there a way to repair ubuntu?
[15:35] <MarkusVN> no
[15:35] <MarkusVN> :(
[15:35] <randomtime> ugh
[15:35] <Guest64599> I have a Belkin wireless USB  adapter that I want to patch for packet injection, but I didn't know whether I have to download Ubuntu drivers for it first or if I just download the patch/drivers/whatever. More importantly, will doing any of this mess up the wireless card already in my laptop?
[15:35] <tonyyarusso> BCCHowdy: Basically, yes.  Also, Synaptic shows all packages, including libraries and stuff, whereas software center just shows a selection of key things.
[15:35] <MarkusVN> i use ALT CTrl DEL to reboot
[15:35] <MarkusVN> but nothing happen
[15:35] <MarkusVN> still crash
[15:35] <IndyGunFreak> l0l3: well how bad did you screw it up?
[15:36] <randomtime> Guest64599: Ubuntu shipped with drivers for my belkin wireless USB card. I think these should be fine for injection
[15:36] <BCCHowdy> Outstanding.  Thank you for the explanation.
[15:36] <[manas]> anyone can help?? i intalled proftpd now i need to configure it give users and etc...
[15:37] <flan_suse> kamagatos, I see.
[15:37] <john-saint> hi all. can anyone recommend software for encrypting folders? i cant get this 'keyring' to work for me.
[15:37] <flan_suse> Is there a way to completely remove pulseaudio without removing the "ubuntu-desktop" meta package?
[15:37] <erUSUL> !encfs
[15:37] <desnaike> randomtime last i fooled around with injection usb not supported could be wrong
[15:37] <Guest64599> Well I have a the F5D7050 v4000, and I'm pretty sure that specific one doesn't support injection unless you download a patch, but I could be wrong
[15:37] <erUSUL> flan_suse: no
[15:37] <antreality> hello to all (testing)
[15:37] <l0l3> hey guys, is there a way to repair ubuntu?
[15:38] <Xcell> whats broke
[15:38] <antreality> To lol3: Use alternate cd.
[15:38] <Jcpn> ei cara sabe transferir o grub da mbr para a partição do ubuntu?
[15:38] <flan_suse> erUSUL, darn.
[15:38] <psychosmose_> Hello ubuntu-fr !
[15:38] <kamagatos> flan_suse: i think there is a way to remove it, do u speak french?
[15:38] <Jcpn> alguem fala portugues?
[15:38] <l0l3> antreality: can i reinstall it
[15:39] <l0l3> if i use alternate cd
[15:39] <jrib>  !pt | Jcpn
[15:39] <l0l3> i want to remove the whole thing and reinstall it
[15:39] <flan_suse> kamagatos, no, why?
[15:39] <john-saint> anyone know to folder encryption software as i cant get my keyring to work
[15:39] <zorael> Will I need an -rt kernel for PulseAudio to work well?
[15:39] <flan_suse> kamagatos, even on Jaunty, when I tried to remove pulseaudio, it wanted to remove the ubuntu-desktop meta package.
[15:39] <antreality> don't get what u mean but i know there's option for repair in alternate cd.
[15:39] <Guest79349> Well anyway, if I'm downloading wireless drivers and stuff, will Ubuntu know that I'm downloading them for a specific card/adapter, or could it accidentally screw something up and give it the wrong drivers or something? sorry for nooby questions
[15:39] <l0l3> lolok
[15:39] <yancho> i installed 9.10 on an old pc i have which has nvidia 420mx .. however after installing the drivers it is only alowing me to set the reslution to 640x480 .. how can i increase this plese?
[15:39] <l0l3> thxbvye
[15:39] <kamagatos> flan_suse: let me look 4 it on a blog, www.korben.info
[15:40] <BCCHowdy> I'm also having an issue with windows shares.  I can see some folders but not others on the same computer.  For example I can see a folder called "Media" but not one called "Transfer Stuff".  I can use Go/Location... and type the share in manually and it'll mount just fine.  Why doesn't it show as a share in the network folder?
[15:41] <sl> bazhang: re
[15:41] <supersasho> Hi, i need help. I've got problem with proftpd, it wont restart. when i type "sudo /etc/init.d/proftpd restart" it says "ProFTPd is started from inetd/xinetd." (new installation of karmic, in intrepid it was just fine)
[15:41] <mgv2> im planning to install ubuntu again because of some problems - how can i install kde instead of gnome?
[15:41] <Debian-user> Dr_Willis: Hi,
[15:41] <Daedalus-Sax> it gives me all sorts of errors and refuses to stop gdm, lol.
[15:41] <kamagatos> flan_suse: ok, i've found the how to, but it's in french
[15:41] <erUSUL> mgv2: dl the kubuntu iso ?
[15:42] <robin0800> BCCHowdy: have you set up sharing on your folders?
[15:42] <flan_suse> kamagatos, but it shows line by line commands?
[15:42] <kamagatos> flan_suse: ok
[15:42] <Defcon1> can anyone help me with getting gurb2 to recognize my windows7 partition?
[15:42] <mgv2> erUSUL, yes great - where can i download the altarnate for kubuntu?
[15:43] <BCCHowdy> Robin0800: I have.  They are visible from other windows computers.
[15:43] <airforceguy> guys im trying to set up thunderbird for emails ...and i need a bit help
[15:43] <erUSUL> mgv2: google ?
[15:43] <Daedalus-Sax> well i can rest in the knowledge that xserver is unstoppable in 9.10, a feat that was almost reversed in 9.04, LOL
[15:43] <robin0800> Defcon1: /etc/default/grub2
[15:43] <mikejet> When doing an update, i get W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xulrunner-1.9.1/xulrunner-1.9.1_1.9.1.4+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.9.10.1_amd64.deb
[15:43] <shiznebit> is there anyway to have pulseaudio automatically select my digital mic when the computer starts ?
[15:43] <airforceguy> what is the out going server for homtmail guys
[15:43] <aaron11> Hello everyone! Im using Empathy on IRC
[15:43] <mgv2> i use ask..com erUSUL but im looking at the website
[15:44] <shiznebit> I am running 9.10
[15:44] <kamagatos> flan_suse: sudo apt-get remove pulseaudio
[15:44] <Arsin> Hey, my mouse isn't working, any help?
[15:44] <freevryheid> glade doesn't install on Karmic - what repos must be enabled?
[15:44] <kamagatos> flan_suse: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[15:44] <artcore> how to edit grub?
[15:44] <SirTopHat> I can go into my windows laptop from my Ubuntu laptop, how can I change the wallpaper of it from here? it's Vista
[15:44] <kamagatos> flan_suse: sudo apt-get install esound
[15:44] <kermit> AHHH i installed the firefox upgrades and it wiped out my firefox-3.5 info
[15:45] <erUSUL> !grub2 | artcore
[15:45] <Daedalus-Sax> why does evolution like to go into offline mode. ever since 9.04, i have had to uninstall evolution and then install thunderbird becuase evolution likes to kick into offline mode
[15:45] <robin0800> artcore: : /etc/default/grub2
[15:45] <mikejet> kermit: oh no.
[15:45] <kamagatos> flan_suse:  sudo cp /etc/X11/Xsession.d/70pulseaudio /etc/X11/Xsession.d/70pulseaudio.back
[15:45] <InsomniaCity> Guys, this problem with all video being blue - is there a fix for mplayer?
[15:45] <DexterLB> help?
[15:45] <flan_suse> kamagatos, why do I need esound?
[15:45] <mgv2> i assumed there is no alt for kde ubuntu - erUSUL
[15:45] <DexterLB> gnome-panel is killing me!
[15:45] <flan_suse> kamagatos, and if I reinstall ubuntu-desktop, it will add pulseaudio as a dependency.
[15:45] <desnaike> airforceguy http://afifplc.blogspot.com/2008/01/how-to-setup-hotmail-windows-live-mail.html
[15:45] <TommiH> Has anyone upgraded to GRUB2 manually after upgrading from 9.04 to 9.10?
[15:45] <trayzz> can someone please have a look at my thread in ubuntuforums http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1307895
[15:46] <artcore> robin0800: i'm looking where update-grub store config after editing /etc/default/grub
[15:46] <artcore> and there are no /etc/default/grub2 !
[15:46] <erUSUL> mgv2: let me google that for you... http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/download look at the torrents links
[15:47] <kamagatos> flan_suse: arrrff!!! it's not the good tuto
[15:47] <erUSUL> artcore: then you are using grub1 is /boot/grub/menu.lst
[15:47] <Defcon1> robin0800 that is just the grub settings I am trying to get a windows partition added to the list
[15:47] <flan_suse> kamagatos, don't worry.
[15:47] <kamagatos> flan_suse: try this http://www.korben.info/desinstaller-pulse-audio-ubuntu.html
[15:47] <artcore> erUSUL: i
[15:47] <flan_suse> I will see what happens if I remove ubuntu-desktop as well.
[15:47] <flan_suse> I have to go now!
[15:47] <robin0800> artcore: perhaps you upgraded and then you won't have grub 2
[15:47] <Defcon1> anyone have any luck adding a windows 7 partition to grub2?
[15:47] <artcore> erUSUL: i'm using default karmic grub
[15:47] <flan_suse> Thank you, kamagatos.
[15:47] <artcore> robin0800: it is default from karmic
[15:47] <kamagatos> flan_suse: ure welcome
[15:47] <erUSUL> artcore: ok then follow the link ubottu gave you
[15:48] <airforceguy> desnaike: thank you
[15:48] <infogulch> still not detecting any devices :(
[15:48] <IndyGunFreak> Defcon1: did you try sudo update-grub2
[15:48] <mgv2> erUSUL, thank you but ive got it already using without even using ask.com
[15:48] <robin0800> artcore: only on a clean install
[15:48] <bdelin881> erUSUL: what was that command for resuming an upgrade again?
[15:49] <TheCheeze> can anyone tell me the name of the app that runs the user indicator on the taskbar?
[15:49] <Defcon1> IndyGunFreak i did, but that did not see it
[15:49] <erUSUL> bdelin88: try this --> sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude safe-uppgrade && sudo dpkg --configure --pending
[15:49] <TheCheeze> mine stopped working
[15:49] <bdelin881> erUSUL: thanks!
[15:49] <Daedalus-Sax> trayzz did you run e2fsck?
[15:49] <IndyGunFreak> Defcon1: hmm, what did you do, disconnect your 7 drive while you installed ubuntu?
[15:49] <erUSUL> TheCheeze: right click on the pannel choose add to panel. It should be there
[15:49] <lianimator> hi guys. I've installed skype and video was working yesterday. but now, it no longer shows.. just a black screen in the test and messed up video in the call. any help is appreciated
[15:49] <bdelin881> erUSUL: i don't know how you guys remember all of that stuff
[15:49] <D3RGPS31> i'm using the fglrx driver; 3D performance is perfect but 2D performance is aweful; (ati r hd 4850, ubuntu 9.10 x86) xorg http://pastebin.com/m62b0aefc lspci http://pastebin.com/m25c231a3 :/
[15:50] <erUSUL> bdelin881: well we know how to use man ;P
[15:50] <bdelin881> erUSUL: did you use man dpkg?
[15:50] <Celsius> I have an issue
[15:50] <Celsius> with 9.1
[15:50] <erUSUL> bdelin881: to make sure
[15:50] <Defcon1> no, i made an image using the dd command, and now I put it back on my re organized drive and I checked to see that all of the files are there, but i guess it does not recognize it as bootable?
[15:51] <Defcon1> IndyGunFreak: no, i made an image using the dd command, and now I put it back on my re organized drive and I checked to see that all of the files are there, but i guess it does not recognize it as bootable?
[15:51] <IndyGunFreak> Defcon1: unfortunately i have no clue,
[15:51] <BCCHowdy> I have to go now.  Thank you very much for the help.
[15:52] <piotr> hi. is here any user of tvtime? i've problem with soound in tvtime on koala karmic. can anyone help me?
[15:52] <robin0800> Defcon1: you will have to set as bootable and chainload it
[15:52] <TommiH> Hi! After upgrading to karmic, my system doesn't mount my mp3 player anymore... Has anyone else got anything similar?
[15:52] <Defcon1> IndyGunFreak thanks for trying to help :)
[15:52] <Dmole> is btjunkie down for anyone?
[15:52] <notfoo> http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2470/4060479335_a6cd313f22_o.jpg  ---- anyone have an idea of how to fix grub
[15:52] <TheCheeze> thanks erUSUL
[15:52] <IndyGunFreak> !grub2 | Defcon1 have you looked here
[15:52] <artcore> i have grub-install (GNU GRUB 1.97~beta4)
[15:52] <bdelin881> erUSUL: i switched locations/computers do you think you could look up the "resource unavailable" cmd line code that the other guy had posted?
[15:52] <erUSUL> TheCheeze: no problem
[15:52] <notfoo> only boots properly when i use CD & choose boot from 1st hdd^
[15:52] <dcider> Dmole, its been down foe a week
[15:53] <ubuntu_gabe> hello
[15:53] <erUSUL> bdelin881: dunno what cmd you are talking about...
[15:53] <TheCheeze> my machine had some fits after i removed "ubuntu-desktop" package thanks to pulseaudio
[15:53] <ubuntu_gabe>  I have a hardware problem with ubuntu 9.10.
[15:53] <Celsius> can anyone help me with a issue on 9.1. I installed and restarted but got no x server. I found that my NVIDIA drivers were not working so I went to NVIDIA and got the right driver installed it using the command line. After install rebooted, got the Ubuntu logo before the loading screen but I never get to the loading screen. The Ubuntu logo disappears and it does not load Ubuntu
[15:53] <Dmole> dcider: wow do we know why?
[15:53] <TheCheeze> going to reboot and see how it goes
[15:53] <Defcon1> robin0800 and ubottu I have tried to follow this http://erickoo.wordpress.com/2009/06/14/how-to-add-vista-partition-to-grub-2-ubuntu-9-10-karmic-koala/
[15:53] <mgv2> im downloading kubuntu torrent at 4 kb per sec and if i will put the computer on the table it can stop downloading
[15:53] <mgv2> im downloading kubuntu torrent at 4 kb per sec and if i will put the computer on the table it can stop downloading
[15:53] <freevryheid> anyone - glade-3 repo ??
[15:53] <ubuntu_gabe> my mouse isn't working, it worked with ubuntu 8.04.3
[15:53] <supersasho> Hi, i need help. I've got problem with proftpd, it wont restart. when i type "sudo /etc/init.d/proftpd restart" it says "ProFTPd is started from inetd/xinetd." (new installation of karmic, in intrepid it was just fine)
[15:53] <amar> restored my Firefox profile of Vista in Ubuntu using FEBE. Some extensions like Gears is not working. How to remove such extensions?
[15:54] <bdelin881> erUSUL: some other guy posted it when I was on the other computer and basically it looked for programs that were running that could affect dpkg upgrades and it asked me if i wanted to force quit them
[15:54] <IndyGunFreak> mgv2: 4kb?..are you on dial up?
[15:54] <freevryheid> 4 karmic
[15:54] <infogulch> omg, it's insane in here o_O
[15:54] <Celsius> anyone know how to fix the issue with ubuntu not loading?
[15:54] <ubuntu_gabe> it's an Icon7 D100 USB mouse
[15:54] <erUSUL> supersasho: "ProFTPd is started from inetd/xinetd." <<< look wat inetd is a what it does. you will understand. Probably you can also configure proftpd to not use inetd is that is what you want
[15:54] <dcider> Dmole, havent looked into it, i just pick another site, i use torrents.to
[15:54] <dual> Can I use gparted to make a 5gb partition and install Windows XP on it and be able to boot it?
[15:55] <ayeshakhine> hello
[15:55] <piotr> hi. is here any user of tvtime? i've problem with soound in tvtime on koala karmic. can anyone help me?
[15:55] <mgv2> IndyGunFreak, no but this is what the wireless able from the neibhors
[15:55] <Celsius> .
[15:55] <artcore> supersasho: reconfigure it for standalone mode
[15:55] <erUSUL> !aptlock | bdelin881
[15:55] <Defcon1> robin and ubottu my windows partition is located on sdb3, so i changed "set root=(hd0,1)" to "set root=(hd1,3)" is that the correct change for that code?
[15:55] <Celsius> I need some help people
[15:55] <xangua> amar go to you fx profile and search it & erase it . /home/yourusername/.mozilla/firefox/yourfxprofile.default/extensions
[15:55] <Dmole> supersasho: did you try sudo /etc/init.d/xinetd restart ?
[15:55] <IndyGunFreak> mgv2: gonna take quite a while to download that ISO at that speed... the torrents are usually really fast.
[15:55] <mgv2> IndyGunFreak, its the alt cd
[15:55] <blkno1> Have a fresh install of 9.10 server on a 20inch monitor.  screen is like 8x6 how do I config to use the whole res?
[15:55] <newbie> hi, can someone tell me how to disable ipv6 in 9.1 please, I've tried various things but it's not working. My internet has got significantly slower sonce I upgraded to 9.1
[15:55] <Defcon1> robin0800 and ubottu my windows partition is located on sdb3, so i changed "set root=(hd0,1)" to "set root=(hd1,3)" is that the correct change for that code?
[15:55] <supersasho> artcore: erUSUL: but standalone takes more resources, doesn't it?
[15:55] <IndyGunFreak> mgv2: doesnt matter, i've hit 900k w/ the torrents regularly.
[15:56] <erUSUL> supersasho: is allways running yes
[15:56] <supersasho> Dmole: yes i tried
[15:56] <artcore> supersasho: of course
[15:56] <ayeshakhine> i am instlling ubuntu desktop on an old sony laptop without network connection
[15:56] <mgv2> IndyGunFreak, i like things when the slow
[15:56] <mgv2> y
[15:56] <Dmole> dual: try 10 or 20 GB
[15:56] <fnda> hi
[15:56] <newbie> hi, can someone tell me how to disable ipv6 in 9.1 please, I've tried various things but it's not working. My internet has got significantly slower sonce I upgraded to 9.1
[15:56] <amar> xangua: thanks..i'll just do it
[15:56] <dual> Dmole, but will it work?
[15:56] <erUSUL> !aptlock | bdelin881
[15:56] <fnda> why startup messages are hidden in 9.10? how can I enable them?
[15:56] <robin0800> Defcon1: grub 2 uses uuid nod sda etc
[15:56] <ayeshakhine> i had the load bar for sometime, but now the screen is just blank
[15:56] <ubuntu_gabe> how can I fix the mouse problem?
[15:56] <Dmole> dual: yes, you will need to reinstall grub after
[15:57] <MenDan>  I have a system with ubuntu + kubuntu installed. I want to make nautilus
[15:57] <MenDan>   the default file manager in gnome again, but currently whenever I
[15:57] <MenDan> click on places-home folder konqueror fires up.
[15:57] <MenDan> How can I restore nautilus as the default file manager?
[15:57] <MenDan> thanks..
[15:57] <FloodBot2> MenDan: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:57] <supersasho> artcore: erUSUL: the ftp is just for 3-4 users, so should i take the standalone?
[15:57] <dual> Dmole, any guides on that?
[15:57] <artcore> supersasho: do you have a problems with RAM? :) today i think it is not a big deal to get some extra gigs :)
[15:57] <newbie> hi, can someone tell me how to disable ipv6 in 9.1 please, I've tried various things but it's not working. My internet has got significantly slower sonce I upgraded to 9.1
[15:57] <notfoo> http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2470/4060479335_a6cd313f22_o.jpg  ---- anyone have an idea of how to fix grub? -- only boots properly when i boot to install cd & choose boot from 1st hdd. also, why the hell did grub get rid of menu.lst
[15:57] <erUSUL> supersasho: it is your choice/call to make. not mine
[15:57] <erUSUL> !grub2 | notfoo
[15:57] <Celsius> I am having issues with Ubuntu not loading, can anyone help?
[15:57] <notfoo> thx
[15:57] <Dmole> supersasho: I would read "man xinetd" and "man proftpd"
[15:57] <robin0800> Defcon1:  Use 'blkid -o value -s UUID' to print the universally unique identifier
[15:57] <supersasho> erUSUL: ok, thanks :)
[15:58] <notfoo> Celsius: gotta include more info than that man, for real.
[15:58] <newbie> hello, anyone know how to disable ipv6 in 9.1 PLEASE?
[15:58] <Daedalus-Sax> Celsius: can you be more specific, (i was afk)
[15:58] <drools> can anyone recommend a mp3 player?
[15:58] <Celsius> can anyone help me with a issue on 9.1. I installed and restarted but got no x server. I found that my NVIDIA drivers were not working so I went to NVIDIA and got the right driver installed it using the command line. After install rebooted, got the Ubuntu logo before the loading screen but I never get to the loading screen. The Ubuntu logo disappears and it does not load Ubuntu
[15:58] <ubuntu_gabe> can anybody help me?
[15:58] <robin0800> newbie: set it to ignore
[15:58] <erUSUL> supersasho: no problem
[15:58] <iPwned> iPhone user
[15:58] <IndyGunFreak> drools: like a program, or a portable device?
[15:58] <xangua> !ask | ubuntu_gabe
[15:58] <Dmole> dual: most simple thing is to partition install xp then install ubuntu
[15:58] <drools> sorry program not device :)
[15:58] <supersasho> artcore: nope, i've got 3.9 GB so thats not the issue, ok i'll read some more info about the inet.d and decide, thx for help :)
[15:59] <Defcon1> robin0800 can you give me an example of how i should use that?
[15:59] <IndyGunFreak> drools: well, rythmbox is installed w/ the base system, its good.. after that, i like banshee, then audacious.
[15:59] <Dmole> Celsius: pastebin your log files
[15:59] <Daedalus-Sax> celsius: i might be wrong about this but the nvidia driver and ubuntu 9.10 aren't mixing very well, i would suggest uninstalling it for now and using a fglrx driver, sorry
[15:59] <dual> Dmole, but I can't. I have ubuntu like I want it but I need xp for checking CPU temps, because I think bios and ubuntu are wrong. Virtualbox doesn't work
[15:59] <Asad2005> How do i import from old .evolution folder
[15:59] <newbie> hello, anyone know how to disable ipv6 in 9.1 PLEASE?
[15:59] <usser> Daedalus-Sax, Celsius that doesnt make any sense, fglrx driver is ati
[15:59] <Celsius> how do i uninstall it and use fglrx, is there some documentation?
[16:00] <Daedalus-Sax> oops right, duh, sorry
[16:00] <ubuntu9> hey guys i need urgent help, i upgraded to 9.10 now when i start my screen is black i can not log in, now iam on recovery mode using irssi, help me i need urgent help what to do
[16:00] <robin0800> with your win 7 connected run blkid in a terminal
[16:00] <TommiH> My mp3 player isn't mounted when plugged in. This worked fine in jaunty, but not in karmic. All my other usb devices work well. Any ideas?
[16:00] <ubuntu_gabe> !ask my Icon7 D100 usb mouse isn't working in ubuntu 9.10, it worked in ubuntu 8.04.3
[16:00] <Guest81375> hello, How can I restore grub to recognize different OSs in two hdds? I have a 2nd hdd with another OS but I need to make grub recognize it. Any suggestions?
[16:00] <tend> Hello, i have problems with new ubuntu 9.10. In my laptop (upgrade to 9.10) i take blacksreen in root (i tried in recivery mode with fsck)and i dont Know how i'll get back my old files!
[16:00] <Asad2005> I want to transfer my settings from a bcked up .evolution folder
[16:00] <ubuntu_gabe> my Icon7 D100 usb mouse isn't working in ubuntu 9.10, it worked in ubuntu 8.04.3
[16:01] <Daedalus-Sax> celsius: that's right, i got mixed up, fglrx is ati, i meant the open source nvidia driver through ubuntu who's name escapes me
[16:01] <ubuntu9> hey guys i need urgent help, i upgraded to 9.10 now when i start my screen is black i can not log in, now iam on recovery mode using irssi, help me i need urgent help what to do
[16:01] <yancho> i installed 9.10 on an old pc i have which has nvidia 420mx .. however after installing the drivers it is only alowing me to set the reslution to 640x480 .. how can i increase this plese?
[16:01] <artc0re> got disconnected
[16:01] <m4rk> how do I encrypt a folder
[16:01] <ubuntu_gabe> !ask
[16:01] <m4rk> or home directory or what ever
[16:01] <usser> !truecrypt
[16:01] <jo_> how can you tunnel into a linuxbox behind a NAT without ports being opened (forwarded) from another ubuntu?
[16:01] <Daedalus-Sax> can't help anymore, i gotsta' restart pc, bye bye
[16:01] <newbie> Asad: start up evolution, go to settings, and selct restore from file, and browse to where it is and selct it
[16:01] <m4rk> thanks usser I will look at that
[16:01] <ubuntu_gabe> !dmesg
[16:01] <newbie> hello, anyone know how to disable ipv6 in 9.1 PLEASE?
[16:01] <Dmole> dual: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/reinstall-ubuntu-grub-bootloader-after-windows-wipes-it-out/
[16:01] <desnaike> newbie: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-disable-ipv6-in-ubuntu.html
[16:02] <Guest81375> or is there any graphical tool to guide me to restore grub?
[16:02] <ubuntu9> hey guys i need urgent help, i upgraded to 9.10 now when i start my screen is black i can not log in, now iam on recovery mode using irssi, help me i need urgent help what to do
[16:02] <dual> Dmole, could I make XP run of an usb drive and still get access to my CPU temperature?
[16:02] <IndyGunFreak> ubuntu9: the screen is just black?
[16:02] <artc0re> jo_: NAT must accept upnp
[16:02] <IndyGunFreak> Guest81375: not that i know of...
[16:02] <ubuntu9> IndyGunFreak: yes i can not do anything its locked
[16:02] <jo_> artc0re: Tx, what is upnp (googling it now)
[16:02] <lilyshu> sorry to be pain.. but i need help cause java applet on ubuntu make firefox not responding.
[16:02] <Asad2005> newbie: But i dont have it as file its the .evolution folder from my 904 /home
[16:02] <tstebut> Hi, how dyou remove a network interface
[16:03] <IndyGunFreak> ubuntu9: well, kinda hard to know what happened there...
[16:03] <newbie> thanks desnaike
[16:03] <Guest81375> hello, How can I restore grub to recognize different OSs in two hdds?
[16:03] <Dmole> dual: probably
[16:03] <artc0re> jo_ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Plug_and_Play
[16:03] <tstebut> like I've got a dummy0 (state down) interface, and I just want to erase it ....
[16:03] <dual> Dmole, then that would be a better way, as I only need it for that
[16:03] <Dmole> Guest81375: edit /boot/grub/menu.1st
[16:03] <ubuntu9> IndyGunFreak: do i need to re-install 9.4 back again
[16:03] <alexis_> Hi! I just try to make my dvb usb workin (cinergy t usb xxs / firmware dvb-usb-dib0700-1.20.fw). It is supposed to work but, it is impossible for me to optain a result... Have you an idea?
[16:03] <jo_> artc0re: tx
[16:03] <alexis_> (im using karmic / kernel 2.6.31..)
[16:03] <robin0800> Guest81375: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2
[16:04] <IndyGunFreak> ubuntu9: thats probably what i would do.... and its 9.1
[16:04] <RhysTM> is there anyway to resize by root partition whilst its being used?
[16:04] <Dmole> dual: sure if you can do that, give it a try
[16:04] <Dr_Willis> Grub2 is so much fun. ;)
[16:04] <robin0800> Dr_Willis: aint it just
[16:04] <ubuntu9> IndyGunFreak: i have 8.4 disc, what you suggest me to do not upgrade to 9.10 after installin
[16:04] <m4rk> usser: is there any change to truecrypt with 9.10?
[16:04] <IndyGunFreak> Dr_Willis: is there a way to use grub instead of grub2?.. i wish it were an option.
[16:04] <Dr_Willis> I had external usb hard drives plugged in with ubuntu on the and update-grub saw and added them all.
[16:05] <Dmole> RhysTM: gparted
[16:05] <Dr_Willis> IndyGunFreak:  proberly is.. but i will stick to grub2
[16:05] <newbie> Could someone TELL me how to disable ipv6 in 9.1, nothing on the internet seems to work
[16:05] <Arsin> Hey my mouse doesn't work after login, any help?
[16:05] <IndyGunFreak> ubuntu9: did you try upgrading from 8.04, to 9.1?
[16:05] <RhysTM> is there anyway to resize by root partition whilst its being used?
[16:05] <Asad2005> newbie: But i dont have it as file its the /home/user/.evolution of my ex 904 install
[16:05] <Dr_Willis> I got thos box set to boot a ubuntu.iso file as a 'recovery' option even . :)
[16:05] <erUSUL> Dr_Willis: /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober probably XD
[16:05] <usser> m4rk, shouldnt be, actually you probably dont need truecrypt as you wanted to encrypt folders not drives
[16:05] <dcider> any way to disable the bootup slash screen and turn on text???
[16:05] <RhysTM> wow my irc is going crazy
[16:05] <ubuntu9> IndyGunFreak: yes upgradin to 9 works fine
[16:05] <IndyGunFreak> Dr_Willis: eh, i guess i've just not figured out grub2 yet
[16:05] <black_paul> i wish to participate in art ubuntu community far making it more beautiful ever
[16:06] <IndyGunFreak> ubuntu9: that wasn't my question, did you upgrade from 8.04, to 9.10?
[16:06] <nkei0> !virtualbox nkei0
[16:06] <m4rk> so how do I encrypt a folder?
[16:06] <newbie> Could someone TELL me how to disable ipv6 in 9.1, nothing on the internet seems to work
[16:06] <ubuntu9> IndyGunFreak: no i upgrade from 8 to 9 then from 9 to 9.10
[16:06] <cj_> Is anyone here using ubuntu on a mac?
[16:06] <robin0800> newbie: edit network connections and set the ipv6 tab to ignore
[16:06] <nkei0> How do I copy files from Jaunty to a Windows 7 install ran on Virtualbox OSE?
[16:06] <arvinoids> hi all, just installed karmic. when i clicked on the accessibility button, the gtk interface changed color. may i know how i can revert it back to the original dark brown/black?
[16:07] <yancho> i installed 9.10 on an old pc i have which has nvidia 420mx .. however after installing the drivers it is only allowing me to set the resolution to 640x480 .. how can i increase this please?
[16:07] <nkei0> arvinoids, Try going into Appearance?
[16:07] <IndyGunFreak> ubuntu9: that should have worked
[16:07] <Dmole> cj_: interesting question, what do you want to know?
[16:07] <ubuntu9> arvinoids: mv gkonf .gkonfold
[16:07] <Deihmos> anyone tried eeebuntu
[16:07] <arvinoids> i want to change the color on the login screen, not the desktop...
[16:08] <newbie> robin, it is like that, but i still get very slow internet using firefox, just yesterday using 9.04 my internt was 10X faster, and I've just upgraded to 9.10, so I'm assuming it must be ipv6 that's causing the problem
[16:08] <arvinoids> ok let me try that
[16:08] <usser> m4rk, there was something about encryptfs-utils and encrypted home folder in jaunty
[16:08] <usser> m4rk, cant find that info now
[16:08] <nkei0> m4rk, You can always use Cryptkeeper.
[16:08] <RhysTM> gparted cant resize whilst its in use though can it?
[16:08] <ubuntu9> IndyGunFreak: yes it worked i could log in the first time
[16:08] <nkei0> RhysTM, Nope, you have to run it off of the liveCD
[16:08] <cj_> Dmole: I have an old powerbook g4 that I wanted to install Ubunto as a dual boot.  Just wondering how well it works on a mac
[16:09] <arvinoids> by the way where is that gkonf located?
[16:09] <RhysTM> right ok time to dig out the cd rive then
[16:09] <IndyGunFreak> ubuntu9: oh ok, i was under the impression it never worked
[16:09] <robin0800> newbie: there was an update to firefox yesterday
[16:09] <usser> m4rk, ecryptfs-utils sorry
[16:09] <Dr_Willis> IndyGunFreak:  yep. ive been reading/learning grub2.. same as i had tolearn GRUB when lilo got replaces
[16:09] <nkei0> RhysTM, You can use a usb stick.
[16:09] <hedkandi> hello
[16:09] <ubuntu9> arvinoids: alt+f2 then just type there
[16:09] <Daedalus-Sax> the ubuntu update servers are slow on my pc, is that because of 9.10's release or am i having a strange bug, because the rest of my "net" experience with 9.10 is blazing fast
[16:09] <hedkandi> is there a channel for mozilla firefox?
[16:09] <newbie> ok, I'll try to update, but I think i am up to dat, but i'll try
[16:09] <Dmole> cj_: not sure about g4 but you should just try the live usb or cd
[16:09] <newbie> thanks
[16:09] <IndyGunFreak> Dr_Willis: yeah, i've just not really felt like messing with it yet, and i'm such a "Well, if ti works, why change it" type... it annoys me
[16:09] <nkei0> Daedalus-Sax, More than likely the release is causing it.
[16:09] <RhysTM> nkei0: indeed i can and i already have a persistent install on one :p
[16:10] <hedkandi> the latest version shows the url twice in the location bar
[16:10] <RhysTM> nkei0: good remidning
[16:10] <hedkandi> How do you fix that?
[16:10] <ChristW> Ok, it seems that just about every second person falls into this trap... I want to change mount options for an external drive (iPod in this case) to also have the 'user' or 'users' mount option (this would enable R/W access for every user, right?). So, I check the current mount options (using 'mount') and paste those into the 'mount options; in the volume's 'Mount options'. I eject the drive and reconnect, and get greeted by an error message 'bad 
[16:10] <IndyGunFreak> Dmole: ubuntu won't work on a g4
[16:10] <RhysTM> reminding*
[16:10] <Daedalus-Sax> nkei0: ok as long as it's not on my end, LOL
[16:10] <ubuntu9> IndyGunFreak: can it be soemthing wrong with my screen resolution
[16:10] <usser> Daedalus-Sax, its the release rage. all the mirrors are struggling under load
[16:10] <bluesjerez> hola
[16:10] <milaz> Hi everybody!
[16:10] <Daedalus-Sax> danka!
[16:10] <hedkandi> buenos dias
[16:10] <ubuntu9> IndyGunFreak: can it be soemthing wrong with my screen resolution 'cause i changed there .hmm
[16:10] <nkei0> Anyone here have experience using Virtualbox?
[16:10] <hedkandi> donde estas?
[16:10] <Daedalus-Sax> thought it was on my end
[16:10] <IndyGunFreak> ubuntu9: i realy don't know.
[16:10] <LjL> !es
[16:10] <joeJamison> ...i use VirtualBox
[16:10] <Dmole> cj_: and there you have it re IndyGunFreak
[16:10] <RhysTM> im seeding from all our major sites at work on the torrent
[16:10] <hedkandi> exactamente
[16:11] <RhysTM> 4mb/s up on all
[16:11] <nkei0> joeJamison, I need to know how to copy files from my host computer to my virtualmachine
[16:11] <IndyGunFreak> cj_: are you needing ubuntu for a g4
[16:11] <nkei0> joeJamison, except host is jaunty and virtual is windows7
[16:11] <arvinoids> ubuntu9: it says no such file or directory
[16:11] <pedaga> hola a todos
[16:11] <Arsin> Hey my mouse doesn't work after login, any help? I tried two mice and it has the same result
[16:11] <airforceguy> ubuntu rocks
[16:11] <enduser000> has anyone had/knows how to fix this problem before? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/465980 it's really messing with my account
[16:11] <milaz> Does anybody know what package should I use to report a bug in that thing that automatically updates Ububntu to a new release?
[16:11] <hedkandi> no se permite hablar espanol en esta canal
[16:12] <artc0re> airforceguy: it's rocks on good hw
[16:12] <nkei0> milaz, Use the forums.
[16:12] <Daedalus-Sax> arvinoids: you might have to get out of home and into / (i only caught part of your post so i could be goofed up)
[16:12] <erUSUL> hedkandi: no; entra en #ubuntu-es
[16:12] <hedkandi> I'm talking ingles
[16:12] <Dr_Willis> Arsin:  it works in the GDM login screen however?
[16:12] <usser> enduser000, ehm, why did you change your UID?
[16:12] <Daedalus-Sax> no hable en englais?
[16:13] <usser> enduser000, thats generally not a good idea
[16:13] <Arsin> Dr_Willis: For about 3 seconds then it freezes
[16:13] <themiddleman> how can I change my screensaver to something that is not 3d without showing the 3d preview (3d doesnt agree with my driver)
[16:13] <enduser000> usser: write access to an hfs+ partition
[16:13] <arvinoids> well, my problem is that i just want to revert to the default style for the login screen
[16:13] <hedkandi> este canal
[16:13] <newbie> robin- yes i am on the latest firefox, and I have all the latest updates with everything, but my internet is very much slower than with 9.04
[16:13] <darrend> having major problems with rhythmbox crashing if any other application is using sound.  Anyone know why?
[16:13] <usser> enduser000, how is uid related to writing to hfs+?
[16:13] <joeJamison> WOW.  I use Jaunty, and Windows 7 in VirtualBox.
[16:13] <MJ94> Umm, I uninstalled the 8.* one, and it shows up in dual boot, but when I try to to it, it doesn't boot. How do I fully remove it?
[16:13] <hedkandi> anyway has anyone else noticed the latest firefox shows the url twice in the location bar?
[16:13] <hedkandi> how do you fix that?
[16:13] <usser> enduser000, can you point to docs about that?
[16:13] <artc0re> m4rk: which version you own?
[16:13] <m4rk> usser, thanks mate
[16:14] <enduser000> usser: with hfs+ you need both the same username and uid to write to a partition (at least the kind disk utility from os x makes)
[16:14] <enduser000> usser: sure 1 sec
[16:14] <ubuntu_gabe> my Icon7 D100 usb mouse isn't working in ubuntu 9.10, it worked in ubuntu 8.04.3
[16:14] <joeJamison> ...it's really easy.  I do it by sharing my home folder with samba, and then map the share as a drive in the guest os.
[16:14] <Daedalus-Sax> to vhange your screen saver withgout the gfx, try this page: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=738545
[16:14] <drools> can i see my windows partition in linux?
[16:14] <ubuntu_gabe> http://www.icon7.com/proinfo_02.aspx?pid=P_00000045&cid=C_00000013&cname=Wired&ccid=C_00000001&pname=D100
[16:15] <Daedalus-Sax> drools: yes
[16:15] <usser> enduser000, wow if thats true thats bad implementation of the driver on the linux side.
[16:15] <newbie> @robin- yes i am on the latest firefox, and I have all the latest updates with everything, but my internet is very much slower than with 9.04
[16:15] <drools> Daedalus-Sax: where is it? /mnt?
[16:15] <aaron11> :) I like Ubuntu Karmic
[16:15] <wendal_> Hola a todos
[16:15] <Daedalus-Sax> drools: no /media
[16:15] <ubuntu_gabe> I don't like Ubuntu Karmic
[16:15] <enduser000> usser: seems to be true, though I had no problem changing my uid in ubuntu 9.04 and kubuntu 9.10
[16:15] <nkei0> newbie, It could just be your isp.  Internet speeds aren't usually caused by kernels.
[16:15] <themiddleman> ubuntu_gabe: thanks
[16:16] <nkei0> ubuntu_gabe, Why not?
[16:16] <secret-el> my firefox doesn't correspond with google reader . my firefox version is 3.5.4 and ubuntu 9.10
[16:16] <Daedalus-Sax> who had the question about changing the screen saver?
[16:16] <sgm> why don't i have root access to scr usr folder?
[16:16] <ice-nine> So ubuntu, or Kubuntu.  That is the question I am facing right now.
[16:16] <meanburrito920_> Certain ranges of songs in my music collection are extremely quiet, almost as if t hey were automatically equalized to the wrong levels. is there a way to manually set how audio is equalized?
[16:16] <usser> sgm, /usr/src?
[16:16] <ubuntu_gabe> first of all my usb mouse isn't working anymore
[16:16] <sgm> correct
[16:16] <enduser000> usser: hmm, I think I'll try this: http://www.ubuntuproductivity.com/journal/macintosh/08/2009/readwrite-to-hfs-on-ubuntu/
[16:16] <RhysTM> wow i started 12 sites at work seeding the 9.10 torrent on friday total of 3812gb uploaded so far :p
[16:16] <arvinoids> hi all, let me post my question again. fresh install of Karmic, looking good. Then on the login screen, I clicked on the Accessibility button and the color changed. How do I revert it back to the original black/brown color?
[16:17] <secret-el> hi every body
[16:17] <usser> meanburrito920_, theres gain boost in almost every player no automatic though as far as i know
[16:17] <Arsin> Dr_Willis: No clue?
[16:17] <robin0800> meanburrito920_: you need replay gain google for it
[16:17] <secret-el> i have a question
[16:17] <meanburrito920_> usser: this is across players though
[16:17] <secret-el> my firefox doesn't correspond with google reader . my firefox version is 3.5.4 and ubuntu 9.10
[16:17] <milaz> nkei0: foums? I need just a tiny package name, nobody knows?
[16:17] <SoftwareExplorer> RhysTM: Wow
[16:17] <newbie> @nki0- well I get normal download rates, but it takes a long while to load up a webpage- these are the exact problems I've had with other computers, and the problems were solved by disabling ipv6- these were much earlier versons of ubuntu though- so I'm assuming this must also be an ipv6 issue
[16:17]  * mdeonte is upgrading his grandma's computer via SSH
[16:17] <mdeonte> lol
[16:17] <johni> epinky, I solved the problem :) with WPA2 I had to blacklist the rt2800usb module. Somehow in 9.10 is trying to load two modules for my card http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=960642&page=11
[16:18] <aaron11> helo
[16:18] <ice-nine> How is the multi monitor support in this release (3 monitors)
[16:18] <nkei0> milaz, Oh, perhaps I read someone else's question but connected it to your name.  Sorry.
[16:18] <Daedalus-Sax> arvinoids: you mean the appearance changed? the "theme"?
[16:18] <aaron11> Does anyone know how to setup a live messenger account in empathy?
[16:18] <RhysTM> I have permission from work to keep it going till xmas aswell i shudder to think how much will have been uploaded by then
[16:19] <Daedalus-Sax> aaron11: i know you have to use yourname@live.com for the user name
[16:19] <IndyGunFreak> aaron11: empathy seems to have a ton of issues right now...
[16:19] <milaz> nkei0: it's ok
[16:19] <Balsaq> help uninstalling alinux firewall
[16:19] <Balsaq> cant get online
[16:19] <arvinoids> Daedalus-Sax: i think so. Now it is the same color as the regular desktop theme. It was supposed to be dark brown/black, can you verify?
[16:19] <aaron11> IndyGunFreak: Yeh Ive tried that but Its not showing my buddies
[16:19] <Dr_Willis> Arsin:  during beta testing a few people  mentioned mouse issues.. some of them were only after a hibernate/suspend.. some also got fixed if they unpluged/pluged in the mouse again.. other then that - no clue
[16:19] <quidnunc> Why does cat big-file | lzma -c > foo.lzma not start growing the file foo.lzma immediately?
[16:20] <NoReflex> Hey guys! Does anyone have problems with /proc/kcore? I was running a game in wine and after about an hour I had no space left on the root partition; even though prior to starting the game a had about 6 GB free. I've read kcore shouldn't take up any space on the FS but I can't find another explanation. I'm using 2.6.31
[16:20] <IndyGunFreak> aaron11: dunno, have you tried pidgin?
[16:20] <ababa> hello since ubuntu 9.10 i cant burn a audio cd with non of the burn programs
[16:20] <Balsaq> can i unistall a linux firewall?
[16:20] <NoReflex> I only have 4 GB of RAM but kcore has 4.6 GB
[16:20] <erUSUL> Balsaq: yes
[16:20] <Daedalus-Sax> arvinoids: what hapens when you go under system-preferences-appearance and change it?
[16:20] <aaron11> IndyGunFreak: Yeh, totaly fluent with it
[16:20] <Balsaq> how
[16:20] <secret-el> my firefox doesn't correspond with google reader . my firefox version is 3.5.4 and ubuntu 9.10
[16:20] <secret-el> my firefox doesn't correspond with google reader . my firefox version is 3.5.4 and ubuntu 9.10
[16:20] <Arsin> Dr_Willis: I tried that too. Hmm it worked yesterday, the onlything different I did was switch monitors
[16:20] <ababa> for example k3b says: Unable to handle the following files due to an unsupported format: You may manually convert these audio files to wave using another application supporting the audio format and then add the wave files to the K3b project. /home/.../CHRONIC 2001/01.mp3
[16:20] <Balsaq> cant get it online
[16:20] <IndyGunFreak> Balsaq: did you try configuring the firewall? because by default, its open.
[16:20] <newbie> @nki0- well I get normal download rates, but it takes a long while to load up a webpage- these are the exact problems I've had with other computers, and the problems were solved by disabling ipv6- these were much earlier versons of ubuntu though- so I'm assuming this must also be an ipv6 issue
[16:20] <Balsaq> i just dd it the easy way
[16:21] <Balsaq> newbie
[16:21] <erUSUL> secret-el: what does "doesn't correspond" means
[16:21] <arvinoids> Daedalus-Sax: I think that does not change anything. That will only work for the user style, but not the login screen.
[16:21] <newbie> ye?
[16:21] <usser> ababa, search for k3b-extracodecs or some such in synaptic
[16:21] <Dr_Willis> ababa:  for k3b ther4 used to be a extra package or 2 you had to install to get it to read/convert mp3 files.
[16:21] <mikejet> getting lots of npviewer.bin segfaults.
[16:21] <IndyGunFreak> Balsaq: did what the easy way?.. did you configure the firewall?
[16:21] <Dr_Willis> mikejet:  gotta love flash seg faultung. :(
[16:21] <Balsaq> sorry dont know about that
[16:21] <Balsaq> just put it in cant get online
[16:21] <ebtek220> is computer janitor safe to use? anything in particular that i should watch for it not to get rid of?
[16:21] <Daedalus-Sax> arvinoids: ohh, that's under system-administration-login screens
[16:22] <Balsaq> trying for 16 hours to get online
[16:22] <Daedalus-Sax> *login screen
[16:22] <Dr_Willis> ebtek220:  i likes to remove things  :) be sure what it wants to remove is what YOU want it to remove...
[16:22] <IndyGunFreak> Balsaq: put what in?... the firewall, or you just installed, and you can't get online?...
[16:22] <Balsaq> default linux browser is all i nknow
[16:22] <drools> can i play things i purchased on itunes on linux
[16:22] <trayzz> can somebody pls help me fix this problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1307895
[16:22] <trayzz> i can't access ubuntu anymore
[16:22] <IndyGunFreak> Balsaq: well if you can't provide basic information, nobody is gonna be able to help you
[16:22] <Balsaq> i choose the no question default linux firewall need to get rid of it
[16:22] <Dr_Willis> ebtek220:  like it always wants to remove all the 'unofficial' stuff ive installed.. which is not 'unused' by my definition
[16:22] <iWolf> Hello
[16:22] <arvinoids> Daedalus-Sax: Probably, but that screen does not show any settings for the appearance.
[16:22] <Bilz> trying to install ati properietary drivers, any idea why im getting these errors in terminal? http://paste.ubuntu.com/306023/
[16:22] <ebtek220> dr_willis: i'm a bit of a newbie and sure what everything always is
[16:23] <iWolf> I need support on ubottu
[16:23] <Daedalus-Sax> drools: yes, depending on format, anyone know if the itunes format is playable via something like songbird, etc?
[16:23] <Balsaq> it was called the question linux firewall choice
[16:23] <Balsaq> the no question linux firewall was recommended i took it
[16:23] <newbie> anybody know how to diable ipv6 in 9.10 without pointing me to a thread?- I can't find anythng that works
[16:23] <Balsaq> now i realize i have averizon firewall also
[16:23] <lockd> Daedalus-Sax: m4a will be playable, but m4p is encrypted (and thus is no use)
[16:23] <Daedalus-Sax> arvinoids: i see what your saying, in 9.04 thats where it was, im gonna do some diggin brb
[16:23] <Balsaq> but i can go to the configure firewall thing
[16:24] <arvinoids> thanks alot ;)
[16:24] <Balsaq> i am in linux firewall utuility now
[16:24] <robin0800> drools: its drm thing problem
[16:24] <iWolf> Hello
[16:24] <MJ94> Umm, I uninstalled the 8.* Ubuntu, and it shows up in dual boot, but when I try to to it, it doesn't boot. How do I fully remove it?
[16:24] <drools> robin0800: sucks.
[16:24] <iWolf> I tried downloading the ubottu supybot plugins
[16:24] <Balsaq> cant fins a linux firewall uninstall
[16:24] <newbie> anybody know how to diable ipv6 in 9.10 without pointing me to a thread?- I can't find anythng that works
[16:24] <trayzz> can somebody please help me to fix my filesystem? have errors since upgrade to 9.10. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1307895
[16:24] <iWolf> I try to load Encyclopedia
[16:24] <iWolf> And i get this
[16:24] <enduser000> usser: hey, putting uid=1000 in fstab didn't work, how do you think I could change my uid without gnome freaking out?
[16:25] <iWolf> LinuxSupport	Phenomenon: Error: No module named pytz
[16:25] <yago> eae?
[16:25] <b3rz3rk3r> Balsaq, firestarter
[16:25] <MsMaco> b3rz3rk3r: not what was asked
[16:25] <Dr_Willis> ebtek220:  when in doubt.. leave it alone... :)
[16:25] <TommiH> Woow, just upgraded to GRUB 2, and still booting...! Excellent!
[16:25] <Bilz> trying to install emacs, also getting this error :\ think ive broken my ubuntu
[16:25] <Roasted> Question - is the lost and found folder created on newly formatted hard drives just a BS folder I can delete, or does it serve some use that I may want to keep it?
[16:25] <Bilz> http://paste.ubuntu.com/306025/
[16:25] <ebtek220> in computer janitor what will it do if something is under the optimie section
[16:25] <usser> enduser000, yea in that guide i didnt see anything about changing your uid, that entry in fstab looked fine.
[16:25] <usser> enduser000, what is your uid now?
[16:25] <sgm> why dont I have root access to usr/src
[16:25] <ebtek220> optimize
[16:25] <MsMaco> Balsaq: iptables, the firewall, is built into the kernel, but it is not configured to block anything by default
[16:25] <b3rz3rk3r> MsMaco, ah, just re-read
[16:25] <enduser000> usser: changed it back to 1000
[16:25] <yago> mans, I'm new user of this service, please, help me ?
[16:26] <trayzz> can somebody please help me to fix my filesystem? have errors since upgrade to 9.10. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1307895
[16:26] <newbie> anybody know how to diable ipv6 in 9.10 without pointing me to a thread?- I can't find anythng that works
[16:26] <usser> enduser000, and it doesnt mount?
[16:26] <rkb> Hey, I cant chat in pidgin with my yahoo id
[16:26] <usser> enduser000, or mounts but doesnt write?
[16:26] <Balsaq> MsMaco ok thanks get cant online
[16:27] <enduser000> usser: it mounts without write access
[16:27] <trayzz> can somebody please help me to fix my filesystem? have errors since upgrade to 9.10. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1307895
[16:27] <sirk> rkb empathy replaced pidgin i believe
[16:27] <Skillen> Does anyone have any suggestions for me?
[16:27] <usser> enduser000, can you pastebin the results of ls -al on the mountpoint
[16:27] <rkb> i am in 9.04
[16:27] <MsMaco> newbie: what do you want to disable in it? if you're annoyed at timeouts for AAAA DNS resolution, comment out IPv6 stuff in /etc/hosts
[16:27] <Balsaq> verizon ip can see me but i cant get online
[16:27] <sirk> have you tried that one
[16:27] <Dmole> anyone want to send me a Hexagon invite ?
[16:27] <sirk> oh nvm
[16:27] <Balsaq> i wonder if someone is using my port
[16:27] <MsMaco> newbie: i dont think ipv6 support can be removed though
[16:27] <Daedalus-Sax> arvinoids: bummer dude, for some reason the ubuntu people removed that feature. i don't know if this will help you, but what changes you can make are discussed on this page: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1294929
[16:27] <IndyGunFreak> rkb: are you sure your username/password are right?.. i'm using yahoo and pidgin NP.
[16:28] <lilyshu> is it ok if /home is ext3 and / is ext4?
[16:28] <enduser000> usser: http://pastebin.com/d590925c4
[16:28] <erUSUL> lilyshu: yes
[16:28] <MsMaco> !sudo | sgm
[16:28] <trayzz> > mountall: filesystem has errors: /home
[16:28] <boomernang> newbie, there will be a line in /etc/default/grub that says GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash".. change it to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="ipv6.diable=1 quiet splash"
[16:28] <MsMaco> lilyshu: yep!
[16:28] <patrickstarfish> lilyshu: sure
[16:28] <trayzz> can someone pls pls help me to fix that
[16:28] <boomernang> newbie: then type sudo update-grub
[16:28] <Bilz> trying to install emacs, also getting this error :\ think ive broken my ubuntu, http://paste.ubuntu.com/306025/
[16:28] <ababa> ussers and dr_willi thanks to you
[16:28] <arvinoids> Daedalus-Sax: well, let me check on that. thanks alot dude
[16:28] <newbie> @MsMaco- well my internet browsing is being really slow (but download rates are normal) apparently this is becasue it's trying ipv6 first, but then failing, becasue my router doesn't support it, and then doing ipv4. So I want to disbale ipv6
[16:29] <x-Na> Hmh, anyone else having problems with Ubuntu One? It doesn't give me the page to add my machine, never has given that page.
[16:29] <MsMaco> lilyshu: that's what i've been recommending to people who want a speedy system but safer user data
[16:29] <Daedalus-Sax> arvinoids: no prob, i don't think i helped much anywayz
[16:29] <usser> enduser000, and your fstab record?
[16:29] <Dr_Willis> x-Na:  its been a little flakey for some time. :( its still a work in progress it seems
[16:29] <lilyshu> MsMaco, patrickstarfish, erUSUL, merci beaucoup :)
[16:29] <x-Na> It's a shame
[16:30] <MsMaco> x-Na: i think servers are overloaded due to release
[16:30] <boomernang> newbie: ubuntu 9.10 does not come with a ipv6 module, so the only way to disable it as a kernel boot parameter.. follow what i said :)
[16:30] <x-Na> My karmic in vbox do work
[16:30] <MsMaco> x-Na: everybody *else* is trying it right now too :P
[16:30] <enduser000> usser: http://pastebin.com/d506d1948
[16:30] <x-Na> MsMaco, it doesn't even give the page to add my machine. It gave it to my Karmic in vbox, tho
[16:30] <Dr_Willis> x-Na:  I will say - during beta testing. it dident work very well either. :(
[16:30] <x-Na> I noticed it too
[16:30] <Daedalus-Sax> x-Na: vbox is a totally different set of hardware than your actual machine
[16:30] <usser> enduser000, so you dont mount it from fstab, what is the command you used to mount that partition?
[16:31] <usser> enduser000, oh wait nvm
[16:31] <x-Na> Daedalus-Sax, and you assume I don't know that because...?
[16:31] <enduser000> usser: yeah, it's /dev/sda5
[16:31] <MsMaco> x-Na: ive had it work before, but i havent used it in about 8 months (no need for it, only one machine :P)...i think they weren't prepared for how many people would hit the servers
[16:31] <nicola_> hallo
[16:31] <enduser000> nicola_: hello
[16:31] <Daedalus-Sax> x-Na: sorry dude, got only a part of the conversation.
[16:31] <trayzz> got filesystem error in /home since upgrade to karmic koala, posted it in a thread here  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1307895
[16:32] <newbie> @boomernang- I've already tried altering /etc/default/grub, but despite what instructions on the internt tell me, the file is actually empty
[16:32] <c64zottel> hello, i found out that my initramfs is using the wrong uuid, how ca i fix this?
[16:32] <x-Na> Oh well, maybe I'll try it later
[16:32] <usser> enduser000, how about that line /dev/sda5               /media/data             hfsplus user,auto,uid=1000,gid=1000 0 0
[16:32] <x-Na> 2 gigs isn't that much anyways
[16:32] <usser> enduser000, did you try that?
[16:32] <trayzz> any ideas? someone?
[16:32] <emblem> this is common:? i'm currently installing 9.10, i'm at 88% installing language packs, remaining time changes up and down between 50-8 mins for the last 30 mins
[16:32] <cameron> Hi all.. I've installed Ubuntu 9.10 onto an NVIDIA ION (Zotac IONITX N330) board and I can't get 720p let alone 1080p videos to play acceptably
[16:32] <enduser000> usser: nope, I'll give it a shot now
[16:32] <x-Na> emblem, servers are crowded, slow downloads
[16:32] <erUSUL> trayzz: tried to run fsck on the parition from recovery mode or a livecd on the affected parition ?
[16:33] <erUSUL> !slow | emblem
[16:33] <rkb> IndyGunFreak, My id and pass is write i m using jaunty and pidgin 5.5
[16:33] <thiebaude> emblem, instaling the language packs i skipped
[16:33] <MsMaco> emblem: it may be fetching the rest of the lang packs from the net
[16:33] <boomernang> newbie: are you opening the file as root?
[16:33] <usser> enduser000, is that your OSX system partition? or more like a shared dump/storage?
[16:33] <n8tuser> emblem-> also note that there are multiple downloads done by your installer..so be patient
[16:33] <emblem> x-Na: ok patience
[16:33] <trayzz> erUSUL I tried recovery mode, that didn't work apparently
[16:33] <enduser000> usser: shared storage
[16:33] <enduser000> usser: journaling disabled, brb
[16:33] <newbie> @boomernang- I use sudo gedit ... to open the file
[16:33] <IndyGunFreak> rkb: pidgin 5.5?.. the current version is 2.6.3...
[16:33] <yancho> guys after tying to modify x11conf as per: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=8202492&postcount=33 when restart i am ending up in tty-1 . how can i fix this please?
[16:33] <erUSUL> trayzz: but you did actually run fsck on the parition ? (with  suitable options )
[16:34] <trayzz> erUSUL nope
[16:34] <nailora> i have a problem adding a webdav calender in evolution. if i add it as "on the web" it ends up being read only. if i change the type to "caldav" and leave all other parameters the same it wont work at all...
[16:34] <newbie> "sudo gedit /etc/default/grub" opens gedit, but with nothing in the file
[16:34] <robin0800> c64zottel: edit sudo /etc/default/grub look at etc fstab to get uuid's
[16:34] <erUSUL> trayzz: do it
[16:34] <rkb> sorry, 2.5.5
[16:34] <jcoco> ?
[16:34] <trayzz> erUSUL so just typing "fsck -h" for instance?
[16:34] <mlourenco> Hello. Just upgraded to Karmic and Samba fails to install correctly. "script error". Can anyone please help?
[16:34] <robin0800> newbie: its grub2
[16:34] <IndyGunFreak> rkb: thats an old version, if ir ecall correctly(and it was a while ago).. there ws a problem w/ an old versionof Pidgin, and Yahoo.. i would try upgrading pidgin
[16:35] <Arsin> Hey my mouse doesn't work after login, any help? I tried two mice and it has the same result
[16:35] <notfoo> how do you change remote desktop port in this new 9.10. it's not in the REmote Desktop options gui anymore
[16:35] <notfoo> where's the config located?
[16:35] <Skaperen> how much trouble are people having with unetbootin when trying to put their 9.10 ISO image into an SD card or USB memory stick?
[16:35] <trayzz> gotta reboot then, brb
[16:35] <enduser000> usser: no go with that fstab string
[16:35] <Daedalus-Sax> trayzz: "If I change RAMRUN and RAMLOCK to "no" in /etc/default/rcS, my machine boots every time." did you try this?
[16:36] <dalton2345> hi, can i install amarok in ubuntu?
[16:36] <IndyGunFreak> Skaperen: i've put 9.10 on a usb drive and installed it on several systems
[16:36] <IndyGunFreak> dalton2345: of course...
[16:36] <usser> enduser000, whats the ls -al on mountpoint, btw you dont have to restart to remount stuff from fstab
[16:36] <dalton2345> IndyGunFreak: ty
[16:36] <newbie> @robin- there doesn't seems to be anuthing in the the 'grub2' file either
[16:36] <MsMaco> dalton2345: yep
[16:36] <Skaperen> IndyGunFreak: OK ... I'm looking for the people who have problems with it
[16:36] <IndyGunFreak> dalton2345: it will just want to install a bunch of kde depenncies, but its no big deal
[16:36] <MsMaco> !yahoo | Skaperen
[16:36] <erUSUL> trayzz: i would do a first pass with -vnf (to not modify the filesystemand see the errors) then change n to ckp  (so -vfpck ) to actually repair the filesystem
[16:37] <MsMaco> Skaperen: that's whats been hitting 9.04 users for months
[16:37] <dalton2345> IndyGunFreak: thats fine with me, I just love amarok with the shoutcast radio
[16:37] <IndyGunFreak> MsMaco: that was a LONG time ago, and i'm pretty sure that has long since been resolved
[16:37] <enduser000> usser: sry, internet's scethchy here sometimes. did you say anything?
[16:37]  * Skaperen wonders why yahoo is relevant
[16:37] <boomernang> newbie: can you pastebin a ls of /etc/default?
[16:37] <rkb> IndyGunFreak, i dont know how to upgrade, i m a newbie to linux
[16:37] <IndyGunFreak> Skaperen: upgrade your version of pidgin, and it should be fine
[16:37] <usser> enduser000, whats the ls -al on mountpoint, btw you dont have to restart to remount stuff from fstab
[16:37] <MsMaco> IndyGunFreak: in karmic.... i dont know if the backport ever went through for jaunty
[16:37] <IndyGunFreak> MsMaco: hmm, maybe not.
[16:37] <Skaperen> IndyGunFreak: pidgin?
[16:37] <dalton2345> by the way i tried to connect to empathy, no success
[16:37] <IndyGunFreak> rkb: its pretty easy....
[16:37] <MsMaco> Skaperen: i thought that was what you were asking about....yahoo+pidgin? but i guessed from what IndyGunFreak  was saying
[16:37] <p1und3r> hey i just upgraded to 9.10... i can't find ubuntu software center, it was on the bottom of applications when i downloaded prerelease, anyone know?
[16:38] <usser> enduser000, you can sudo umount /mountpoint and sudo mount -a to check your changes to fstab
[16:38] <IndyGunFreak> rkb: its easy.. go here.. http://www.pidgin.im/download/ubuntu/
[16:38] <theadmin> p1und3r: It's at the same place
[16:38] <MsMaco> dalton2345: are you on 9.04 or 9.10? amarok in 9.10 plays CDs (not the 9.04 one though)
[16:38] <mlourenco> Hello. Just upgraded to Karmic and Samba fails to install correctly. "script error". Can anyone please help?
[16:38] <aaron11> Hello Im having a lot of apport crashes. It says the kernel incounterd a serious problem
[16:38] <rkb> IndyGunFreak, there is no option in the help menu of pidgin as like as other windows apps
[16:38] <dalton2345> MsMaco: 9.10
[16:38] <p1und3r> theadmin: anyone reason it wouldn't show on mine?
[16:38] <enduser000> usser: okay thanks, you want ls -al on /dev/sda5? or on /media/data?
[16:38] <theadmin> p1und3r: No, sorry.
[16:38] <Skaperen> MsMaco: no ... nothing to do with IM ... I'm looking for people who have had problems with unetbootin
[16:38] <usser> enduser000, ls -al /media/data
[16:39] <_Maximus> hello, anyone could suggest a file comparision tool like total commander's "Synchronize directory" ? so that I can easily see if the files on my dvd are 100% identical to the ones on my hard drive?
[16:39] <Skaperen> MsMaco: to have them try an alternative
[16:39] <IndyGunFreak> rkb: type this w/o quotes, i'll talk you through upgrading.. its not hard at all... "/join #indygunfreak"
[16:39] <NetLarIrvine> I just installed Karmic but it will not connect to my wireless network, just keeps asking for my pass
[16:39] <Threetimes> I'm having problems connecting my phone (as usb mass storage). It always worked... http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m2e381694
[16:39] <robin0800> newbie: your right they renamed grub2 to grub you shold use nano with sudo and gksu for gedit
[16:39] <p1und3r> theadmin: is there a terminal command i can see if i have it installed?
[16:39] <yancho> guys after tying to modify x11conf as per: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=8202492&postcount=33 when restart i am ending up in tty-1 . how can i fix this please? gdm seems borked :S
[16:39] <usser> _Maximus, md5sum
[16:40] <MsMaco> Skaperen: oh ok. sorry then
[16:40] <enduser000> usser: http://pastebin.com/d4c0ada32
[16:40] <X-TaZ> Why wireshark still not availible in synaptics ( or apt-get) on ubuntu 9.10 ?
[16:40] <erUSUL> !find wireshark
[16:40] <bdelin881> i just upgraded my intrepid server to karmic and it says there is an error processing bind9... i have a couple of folders mounted in fstab with bind how can i fix this?
[16:40] <MsMaco> p1und3r: dpkg -l software-center
[16:40] <erUSUL> !find wireshark karmic
[16:40] <p1und3r> does anyone know a terminal command for ubuntu software center
[16:40] <p1und3r> MsMaco: thanks
[16:40] <MsMaco> p1und3r: if the last line starts with "ii" its installed
[16:40] <erUSUL> X-TaZ: it is there
[16:40] <usser> enduser000, hm, it didnt seem to make any difference. you sure you edited fstab with uid=1000 and gid=1000 options?
[16:40] <_Maximus> usser, do you know any tool that calculates the md5sum for all the files on the cd and then of all the files on the hdd and then compares them? :)
[16:40] <Skaperen> MsMaco: OK, n/p ... FYI ... my alternative is an image I created (from the original ISO) that can work BOTH as an ISO and as a hard drive image ... one file to d/l ... can be burned to a CD/DVD ... and can be dd'd to a flash drive
[16:41] <p1und3r> msmaco: wow thats interesting, the upgrade didn't install i
[16:41] <MsMaco> Skaperen: nice
[16:41] <lilyshu> anyone here using ubuntu nbr on eee pc 1000HE?
[16:41] <DarK``_> p1und3r: software-center
[16:41] <newbie> looking in etc/default, there doesn't even seem to be a grub folder, but gedit or gksu doesn't complain, it just opens a blank file
[16:41] <Threetimes> X-TaZ: try clicking "update" or try 'sudo apt-get update' first
[16:41] <enduser000> X-TaZ: wireshark is available, sudo apt-get install wireshark, try sudo apt-get update first
[16:41] <mlourenco> Does Samba work on 9.10?
[16:41] <MsMaco> p1und3r: O_o thats kinda broken
[16:41] <Threetimes> I'm having problems connecting my phone (as usb mass storage). It always worked... http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m2e381694
[16:41] <ctmjr> yancho: did you back up the old one first
[16:41] <milaz> Skaperen: what tools did you use to create a custom image?
[16:41] <yancho> ctmjr,  yes and replaced it but to no avail
[16:41] <Skaperen> milaz: I wrote a script to do it
[16:42] <enduser000> usser: yeah, my /etc/fstab: http://pastebin.com/d53093025
[16:42] <X-TaZ> Ok i've done it
[16:42] <milaz> Skaperen: can you share it?
[16:42] <Skaperen> milaz: I'll be putting the script online later
[16:42] <X-TaZ> ( the update
[16:42] <X-TaZ> but it
[16:42] <MsMaco> mlourenco: it should, though i havent tested it personally
[16:42] <purple_processor> dhcp dosent seem to be working for my ralink 2770 but works fine for my atheros ath5k. ifconfig seems to report the wrong mac according to stickers on adaptor could be a manufacturing hicup or is there something else to check? I can assoate with ap but just updated to 9.04 now adaptor is wlan not ra0 but hcp failed b4 upgrade as well... setting the ip and default gw and it works fine..
[16:42] <Skaperen> milaz: sure ... just haven't gotten around to that, yet
[16:42] <X-TaZ> still tels me no paquet found*
[16:42] <Skaperen> milaz: gimme a few and I can do it now
[16:42] <enduser000> X-TaZ: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[16:42] <newbie> looking in etc/default, there doesn't even seem to be a grub folder, but gedit or gksu doesn't complain, it just opens a blank file
[16:42] <X-TaZ> i can see in the apt-get update that there are loads of ignored repos
[16:42] <joeJamison> i have a problem.  when i shut down my computer (gateway p-7801u laptop, may 2008 - ubuntu 9.04 32bit) everything goes fine, i am logged out of the session, gdm is shut down, and the usplash shows up, with the bar going down, as it usually does.  when it gets very near to the end, it freezes.  if i hit ctrl+alt+f8 to see whats happening, the screen goes crazy with colors and static, and the computer just sits there, until i cut the powe
[16:43] <X-TaZ> I'm running the UNR 9.10
[16:43] <MsMaco> purple_processor: check that /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules lists the right information about the devices
[16:43] <bdelin881>  i just upgraded my intrepid server to karmic and it says there is an error processing bind9... i have a couple of folders mounted in fstab with bind how can i fix this?
[16:43] <ctmjr> yancho: no errors it just does not load the gui?
[16:43] <[manas]> need help whit proftpd how i can add user???????????????????????????
[16:43] <QaDeS_> hiyas. how do i connect to a pts from the command line?
[16:43] <Skaperen> milaz: it is NOT user friend ... it needs major polishing ... the concept is for the distribution builder to run the script and release the image it produces
[16:43] <usser> _Maximus, hm, of the top of my head no, something like this might work find . -name "*" -exec md5sum {} \; | md5sum
[16:43] <enduser000> X-TaZ: you could try synaptic (has a reload button too you could hit first). sunno if that'll make a diff though
[16:43] <X-TaZ> I've tryed it too
[16:43] <MsMaco> Skaperen: send an email to ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com ?
[16:44] <purple_processor> MsMaco: ok.. will do thanks anint played with udev yet...
[16:44] <Skillen> I've updated my thread I had running in the forums. If someone could offer any help I would be very grateful. The thread is here... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8206271#post8206271
[16:44] <notfoo> how do you change remote desktop port in this new 9.10. it's not in the REmote Desktop options(vino-preferences) anymore. anyone know where the config file is located????
[16:44] <X-TaZ> I see some ignored repos in swy
[16:44] <X-TaZ> synaptics too
[16:44] <yancho> ctmjr,  it just takes me to login prompt at tty-1
[16:44] <usser> enduser000, hm thats weird, try remounting it, sudo umount /media/data && sudo mount -a
[16:44] <dalton2345> I was trying karmic on the live cd its speedy
[16:44] <milaz> Skaperen: don't worry about it, I just need something to understand the idea in general, so any unpolished script will be OK
[16:44] <Kellur> Do anyone know command which shows if filesystem is mounted as ext4 or is it real ext4?
[16:44] <yancho> ctmjr,  not sure where to chck for errors
[16:44] <AaronMT> Where can I download Ubuntu 5.04
[16:44] <notfoo> wtf?
[16:44] <notfoo> :P
[16:44] <usser> Kellur, if the FS is mounted as ext4 it is ext4
[16:44] <Consty> has anyone had an issue with 9.10 where SSHD isn't working properly? The service is running, and I can ssh into myself, but can't from any other PC on my network. The odd thing is I can use telnet on 22 to see the OpenSSH signature, but when using ssh on another box it just sits there and hangs
[16:44] <erUSUL> AaronMT: it was eoled long ago
[16:44] <enduser000> X-TaZ: software sources are in ubuntu software center if you want to look there
[16:45] <erUSUL> !5.04 | AaronMT
[16:45] <newbie> looking in etc/default, there doesn't even seem to be a grub folder, but gedit or gksu doesn't complain, it just opens a blank file
[16:45] <usser> Kellur, if the fs is mount as ext3 it could be ext3 or ext4
[16:45] <grayson> Hi all,
[16:45] <AaronMT> I need 5.04
[16:45] <milaz> mlourenco: Samba works OK. You have to update just after install, they fixed some important bugs about it. And now it works perfectly for me.
[16:45] <[manas]> need help whit proftpd how i can add user??? cant find it in conf file
[16:45] <aaron11> !10.10
[16:45] <X-TaZ> May I uncomment the backorts repos on sources.list to get the wireshark ?
[16:46] <MsMaco> aaron11: look online for the ubuntu museum. there are vm images of all the old releases
[16:46] <trayzz> back in ubuntu...feels good
[16:46] <erUSUL> AaronMT: maybe in old-releases.ubuntu.com
[16:46] <usser> AaronMT, why do you need 5.04 maybe something more recent can suit your purposes?
[16:46] <grayson> Hi all, I updated to 9.10 problems Just want to save my downloaded Packages and reload. help please and thank you
[16:46] <Skaperen> milaz: here ... have fun with it ... http://slashusr.net/ubuntu/iso-for-hd-2009-10-31-124414.tar.gz
[16:46] <MsMaco> AaronMT: that was aimed at you
[16:46] <MsMaco> aaron11: sorry
[16:46] <newbie> anyone know where the GRUB files are stored? There's nothing in /etc/default to do with grub
[16:46] <Kellur> usser, OK, but if you mount ext3 as ext4, there are some features that are not enabled..?
[16:46] <AaronMT> 9.10 does not work. 5.04 does. I need 5.04.
[16:46] <enduser000> usser: sudo umount /media/data && sudo mount -a.. same result
[16:46] <MsMaco> newbie: are you sure grub is installed? also, do you mean old grub or new grub?
[16:46] <richard> help!
[16:46] <usser> Kellur, you cant mount ext3 as ext4, i think.
[16:46] <richard> help!
[16:46] <MsMaco> !ask | richard
[16:46] <milaz> Skaperen: thank you!
[16:46] <CPrgmSwR2> How do I change my sound to come out of the speakers versus the headphones
[16:47] <X-TaZ> !fing wireshark
[16:47] <CPrgmSwR2> ?
[16:47] <bdelin881>  i just upgraded my intrepid server to karmic and it says there is an error processing bind9... i have a couple of folders mounted in fstab with bind how can i fix this?
[16:47] <X-TaZ> !find wireshark
[16:47] <boomernang> newbie: did you upgrade from 9.04?
[16:47] <newbie> i hust updated to 9.10 so i'm imagining it'll be grub2
[16:47] <grayson> pS aptoncd will not work
[16:47] <usser> enduser000, if its a fie dump and permissions dont matter, try sudo chmod -R 777 /media/data
[16:47] <usser> *file
[16:47] <newbie> yes it did boomernang
[16:47] <MsMaco> newbie: nope it should still be grub1
[16:47] <boomernang> newbie: what does grub --version say?
[16:47] <newbie> *i did
[16:47] <docmax> hello. how can i disable booting into GUI in ubuntu 9.10?
[16:47] <trayzz> if i ran fsck and had to fix erros, can i view a logfile of that?
[16:47] <MsMaco> newbie: replacing grub is a little too risky, so only new installs get grub2
[16:47] <tormod> newbie, if you upgrade you will keep grub 1
[16:47] <PMantis> Isn't anyone seeding the torrents?
[16:47] <newbie> "GNU GRUB 0.97"
[16:48] <usser> newbie, upgrade does not reinstall your bootloader if you had grub1 before you'll end up with grub1 after upgrade
[16:48] <wsg> hi, can anyone help me? My microphone doesn't work...
[16:48] <MsMaco> docmax: ubuntu or kubuntu?
[16:48] <sshc> foo: if you're still getting error 15 with grub2, look at the warning in red text on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2
[16:48] <docmax> MsMaco, ubuntu
[16:48] <mizipzor> i use the mouse very little on this box, this makes windows a bit of a pain to work with... i dont know what the feature is called but ive seen it other window managers, can gnome "split" the view area into several rectangles and then "assign" a window to one area and when maximized it only fills that area? i hope i make myself understandable now :p
[16:48] <enduser000> usser: very nice, worked like a charm. thanks ^^
[16:48] <diskin> Alt-Fx keys switch me to VTx, why? I.e., Alt-F4 closes active window, but also switches me to VT4! Anybody saw this?
[16:48] <raven_> LADSPA Audio plugins - where is the folder i put the .so files in? tnx...
[16:48] <mapper> I just upgraded from 9.04 to 9.10 yesterday. but the sound stops working. When I go to "System" -> "Preference" -> "Sound", it keeps saying "Waiting for sound system to respond", and just hang up like that.
[16:48] <Kellur> usser, I think you can http://www.debian-administration.org/article/Migrating_a_live_system_from_ext3_to_ext4_filesystem
[16:48] <usser> enduser000, no problem. still weird though.
[16:48] <Guest28473> ubuntu crashes from moving my mouse pointer
[16:48] <wsg> mapper
[16:49] <Skaperen> milaz: if you want to try out my image, it is here:  http://slashusr.net/ubuntu/ubuntu-9.10-desktop-i386.iso.img
[16:49] <newbie> ok, but i don't have a grub folder at all in /etc/default- all I want to do is disable ipv6
[16:49] <captainm> mizipzor: You're thinking of a tilling window manager. Something like Xmonad or awesome
[16:49] <enduser000> usser: yeah I know, I'm going to check it out in the other os's. thanks again :)
[16:49] <wsg> mapper you must edit the module file
[16:49] <arand> AaronMT: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/
[16:49] <wsg> mapper, sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[16:49] <mapper> wsg: how can I do that?
[16:49] <Guest28473> ubuntu crashes from moving my mouse pointer and it freezes
[16:49] <mapper> ok
[16:49] <trayzz> i ran "fsck" to fix filesystem errors, i would like to revise everything, does anyone know where the logfile for fsck is saved?
[16:49] <wsg> what sound card do you have?
[16:49] <Shockrates> hello. do releases of new open sofware become available every 6 months?
[16:49] <Cobalt> Hi, I've just installed Karmic, and I cannot for the world of it get my Bluetooth Aluminium Keyboard to work. There is just one message in the logs: apple 0005:05AC:022D.0002: parse failed and apple: probe of 0005:05AC:022D.0002 failed with error -14. Originally, pairing with bluetooth was not working well either.
[16:49] <mapper> wsg: I am not sure.
[16:49] <boomernang> newbie: so now go into /boot/grub/menu.lst
[16:50] <wsg> have you windows?
[16:50] <Skaperen> milaz: since you don't know me, of course you'd want to boot something I make only in a VM or sacrificial box :)
[16:50] <notfoo> sshc: thanks.
[16:50] <khan> that autoconnect is a little annoying
[16:50] <wsg> mapper, is a brand pc?
[16:50] <notfoo> was my problem.
[16:50] <mizipzor> captainm; i see, tiling... got it... i assume my best bet is to switch wm entirely? its not something gnome can do? ... from my searches, it sadly looks like (for some reason) tiling wm's assume that i want to work with text mostly as well...
[16:50] <erUSUL> mizipzor: they are tilling window managers such as xmonad; ratpoison; ion3; awsomewindowmanager etc
[16:50] <IndyGunFreak> Shockrates: a new OS comes out every six months, doesn't necessarioly mean all the software is new, but usually at least some of it is
[16:50] <trayzz> i ran "fsck" to fix filesystem errors, i would like to revise everything, does anyone know where the logfile for fsck is saved?
[16:50] <mapper> wsg: It's Lenovo T61
[16:50] <usser> Kellur, hm i guess you can, didnt know it was forward compatible, it doesnt matter though, even if you enable extents and all the features of ext4 they will only have effect on newly created files
[16:50] <raven_> LADSPA Audio plugins - where is the folder i put the .so files in? tnx...
[16:50] <wsg> mapper, ok wait
[16:50] <grayson> Hi where do I find my downloaded packages, etc var user ?
[16:50] <sshc> notfoo: see warning in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2  ;you need to use supergrub (not a live session) to boot into your normal installation and purge grub-pc with "apt-get purge grub-pc" (or purge grub2 if that's what you installed) and then "apt-get install grub2", even if you previously installed grub2.  Don't run any upgrade-grub commands after the reinstallation.
[16:50] <boomernang> newbie: you should be able to see the kernel line under your ubuntu TITLE.... kernel=            at the end will be ro quiet ... add ipv6.disable=1 to it
[16:50] <Guest28473> ubuntu crashes from moving my mouse pointer and it freezes
[16:50] <erUSUL> !software | grayson
[16:50] <mizipzor> erUSUL: isnt ratpoison geared towards text only envoirments? or did i just missonderstand the site
[16:50] <Skaperen> Guest28473: sounds like bad RAM
[16:51] <Guest28473> can some one help me!
[16:51] <Shockrates> IndyGunFreak: i have heard that if a new version of lets say a math sofware comes availabe i cant use it, until 6 months have passed
[16:51] <sshc> notfoo: np :)
[16:51] <arand> trayzz: look in /var/log/fsck/
[16:51] <notfoo> sshc: thanks man :D
[16:51] <subbu^> hi all, when i go to Update Manager i see an update for Adobe Flash under the section of Distribution updates. How do i install it? it is not selectable!
[16:51] <Skaperen> Guest28473: run the memory test
[16:51] <ctmjr> yancho: try this cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep -i WW | less
[16:51] <Roasted> When you install Virtualbox from the actual web site - where does it go? I can't find it in my menu.
[16:51] <grayson> erUSUL, thanks
[16:51] <Kellur> usser, OK, how can I check if extends are enabled?
[16:51] <MsMaco> mizipzor: you can run window managers other than metacity and compiz inside gnome. for about 6 months i ran gnome with xmonad
[16:51] <Threetimes> diskin: that's strange. Sure you didn't press/hold control?
[16:51] <i_am_null> i just did the dist upgrade, but menu.lst was not updated, still running 2.6.28-14-generic, how do i update menu.lst to karmic ?
[16:51] <trayzz> arand thanks
[16:51] <wsg> mapper, i'm looking for your sound card
[16:51] <arand> Roasted: I think in acessories?
[16:51] <wsg> mapper wait 5 minutes
[16:51] <mapper> wsg: ok
[16:51] <mapper> wsg: sure
[16:51] <MsMaco> mizipzor: then i switched to kde+xmonad ;)
[16:52] <Roasted> arand - do I have to reboot or anything? It's not there, and when I dbl click the .deb again it says reinstall package - so I know its in here somewhere.
[16:52] <diskin> Threetimes, absolutely. I will try to reboot and see if it helps, syste uptime is 20+days
[16:52] <IndyGunFreak> Shockrates: i dont know why that would be, you can use it as long as you have it installed
[16:52] <subbu^> hi all, when i go to Update Manager i see an update for Adobe Flash under the section of Distribution updates. How do i install it? it is not selectable!
[16:52] <Threetimes> disappearedng: you might try another keyboard
[16:52] <mizipzor> MsMaco: oh right, they are separate... so i got a window manager and a window decorator... what would i call the software which role is currently filled by gnome?
[16:52] <PMantis> My 9.10 torrents all say 0 connected peers. Anyone seeding?
[16:52] <Threetimes> diskin: ^
[16:52] <MsMaco> mizipzor: desktop environmnet
[16:52] <MsMaco> mizipzor: *environment
[16:52] <trayzz> arand mmh doesn't say too much
[16:52] <arand> Roasted: it may not add a menu item then. Try running virtualbox for teminal then?
[16:53] <trayzz> arand basically just that i had errors, not what i fixed manually
[16:53] <MsMaco> PMantis: i'm seeding over ipv6...
[16:53] <diskin> Threetimes, what does "^" mean? :)
[16:53] <MsMaco> diskin: its an arrow
[16:53] <arand> trayzz: yea, s
[16:53] <Guest28473> can some one help!
[16:53] <Threetimes> diskin: read two lines higher
[16:53] <wsg> mapper you have a soundmax HDA
[16:53] <mapper> wsg: ok
[16:53] <Roasted> arand - I did, and it said not installed and I should run sudo apt-get virtualbox to install it. But we allknow the virtualbox in the repos is an older version than what's from the web site....
[16:53] <MrEgg964> Hi. Just upgrade to karmic, and now it tells me cpu scaling is not supported for my cpu. Worked fine with Jaunty. Any suggestions?
[16:53] <wsg> mapper i must check how to edit your module config.
[16:53] <trayzz> arand some gnome features had errors now, just some gui pannels still i wonder if there is more lost
[16:53] <Threetimes> diskin: as in i autocompleted the wrong name
[16:53] <mapper> wsg: ok
[16:53] <MsMaco> MrEgg964: file bug?
[16:53] <erUSUL> MrEgg964: which cpu ? a p4 ?
[16:53] <mizipzor> MsMaco: got it... i installed ratpoison and it shows up as a selectable environment (alongside gnome and kde) when i am to login... but you mean i can switch inside gnome itself?
[16:53] <Roasted> Does anybody know if there was a patch to fix the Karmic bug when using multiple hard drives???
[16:54] <MrEgg964> erUSUL: yes, a p4
[16:54] <milaz> Skaperen: thank you, I'll try it. Of course, the most precious part for me is to read some code and learn how such images can be created :)
[16:54] <trayzz> arand anyways, thanks alot mate
[16:54] <diskin> Threetimes, nope, it's laptop!
[16:54] <Threetimes> try an usb keyboard
[16:54] <thedude42> Roasted, do you have a link to the bug report?
[16:54] <mizipzor> found a tool that lets me switch... i switched to blackbox (which i apparently have installed)...
[16:54] <Arsin> Hey my mouse doesn't work after login, any help? I tried two mice and it has the same result
[16:54] <ravenger> i wan know the converting software mp3 to .dcf for nokia mobiles
[16:54] <res22> Can someone help me change my mouse cursor, it seems to be stuck on oxy-black
[16:54] <erUSUL> MrEgg964: well the n they are right your cpu does not support scaling... it was a hack and now they (the kernel dev) no longer support it
[16:54] <newbie> @boomernang- in the middle is 'ro quiet splash' and at the end there is just 'quite', whicg one shall I put this line by? Or shall I just put it at the end?
[16:54] <wsg> mapper, do in "sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf" in console
[16:54] <amgarchIn9> anybody knows how to disable UbuntuOne applet from starting on login in KDE sessions?
[16:54] <mapper> wsg: I am there now..
[16:54] <diskin> Threetimes, first I will try to reboot I guess. Thanks for the tips. Just do not have USB keyboard around...
[16:55] <Roasted> thedude42 - I don't... crap... I just had this problem and I read on a ZDNet.com review that other users were having the same issue and it was reported. I didn't get the actual bug report though.
[16:55] <wsg> and copy the last row
[16:55] <joeJamison> i have a problem.  when i shut down my computer (gateway p-7801u laptop, may 2008 - ubuntu 9.04 32bit) everything goes fine, i am logged out of the session, gdm is shut down, and the usplash shows up, with the bar going down, as it usually does.  when it gets very near to the end, it freezes.  if i hit ctrl+alt+f8 to see whats happening, the screen goes crazy with colors and static, and the computer just sits there, until i cut the powe
[16:55] <Threetimes> diskin: ok
[16:55] <ravenger> i wan know the converting software mp3 to .dcf for nokia mobiles
[16:55] <wsg> mapper sorry for my English, I'm italian
[16:55] <raven_> LADSPA Audio plugins - where is the folder i put the .so files in? tnx...
[16:55] <mapper> wsg: no problem
[16:55] <ravenger> i wan know the converting software mp3 to .dcf for nokia mobiles
[16:55] <wsg> mapper write here the last row
[16:55] <zash> Is there any chance whatsoever that Ubuntu could break the fan in a crappy netbook?
[16:56] <res22> My problem can be seen here http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/7736/mouseevidence.png
[16:56] <thedude42> Roasted, the only reason I ask is because karmic introduced a couple things that may have issues with multiple hard drives.... ext4, btrfs, grub2....
[16:56] <MrEgg964> erUSUL: is that why I can't even modprobe cpufreq_powersave ? That module isn't even found on my system.
[16:56] <wsg> mapper I must know what does it say
[16:56] <Take0n> guys where can I find themes for ubuntu 9.04 gnome? I want to change the color of my windows etc.
[16:56] <Take0n> where should I look
[16:56] <Roasted> thedude42 - karmic didnt introduce ext4 though...?
[16:56] <mapper> wsg: the last line is: options snd-hda-intel power_save=10 power_save_controller=N
[16:56] <captainm> Take0n: www.gnome-look.org
[16:56] <erUSUL> MrEgg964: probably or just they made it builtin in this version
[16:56] <ravenger> i wan know the converting software mp3 to .dcf for nokia mobiles
[16:56] <wsg> mapper ok is the standard config
[16:56] <Take0n> captainm, I am there right now but don't know where to look
[16:56] <thedude42> Roasted, karmic made ext4 the default file system on install, i beleive... someone correct me if i'm wrong
[16:56] <wsg> mapper i must check the right snd-xxxxxxx
[16:56] <Take0n> GTK 2.x?
[16:56] <Kellur> Find it.... lsattr was on same article.  Thanks!'
[16:56] <wsg> mapper wait few minutes
[16:56] <Take0n> I use compiz
[16:57] <mapper> wsg: ok, I have no idea about sound configuration
[16:57] <epinky> ravenger: ffmpeg ?
[16:57] <Roasted> thedude42 - oh yes, thats right. I just knew ext4 EXISTED before karmic. It came with jaunty but not by default, but it was an option.
[16:57] <MsMaco> who's asking about sound?
[16:57] <MrEgg964> erUSUL: right. Well I'm going to dd back to Jaunty then, because I'm getting some serious overheating over here
[16:57] <MsMaco> raise your hand: o/
[16:57] <ctmjr> Take0n: look for emerald themes
[16:57] <captainm> Take0n: Yes, that's it
[16:57] <Guest28473> desktop freezes in 9.10 by moving my mouse can someone please help!
[16:57] <Roasted> thedude42 - it just seems karmic gets pissy when dealing with multiple hard drives mounting uatomatically in fstab - IF it even detects them. Karmic only detected 1 of my 3 backup SATA drives. The user in ZDNet said it detected 2 our of his 3 SATA drives. So something is off somewhere...
[16:58] <boomer84> I know it is the latest version and everything but should 9.10 really give this much of an improvement? I was running 8.04 for about a year (travel makes upgrades difficult) Karmic seems a million miles ahead in comparison
[16:58] <MsMaco> Guest28473: have you done the memory tests like others have said to?
[16:58] <SkyHigh> lmms (linux multimedia studio).... the sound is distorted... how to fix??
[16:58] <TheCheeze> has anyone found a fix for the speaker crackling and notify sound speed issues with karmic? i did not have these problems in jaunty
[16:58] <joeJamison> oh, i forgot.  first you have to give yourself permission to do that.
[16:58] <erUSUL> MrEgg964: then that's a bug. the module/driver should work only to prevent heat damage (not for powersaving)
[16:58] <wsg> mapper tell me your email adderss, I will send the right row by it
[16:58] <tstebut> hi
[16:59] <mapper> wsg: zzyybb@hotmail.com
[16:59] <MsMaco> wsg, mapper: one of you having a sound problem?
[16:59] <joeJamison> i have a problem.  when i shut down my computer (gateway p-7801u laptop, may 2008 - ubuntu 9.04 32bit) everything goes fine, i am logged out of the session, gdm is shut down, and the usplash shows up, with the bar going down, as it usually does.  when it gets very near to the end, it freezes.  if i hit ctrl+alt+f8 to see whats happening, the screen goes crazy with colors and static, and the computer just sits there, until i cut the powe
[16:59] <thedude42> Roasted, yeah I'm not sure about that one but it sounds like something that would have a pretty specific condition that causes it
[16:59] <mapper> MsMaco, I have sound problem
[16:59] <help> hi
[16:59] <MsMaco> mapper: what's it doing?
[16:59] <TheCheeze> MsMaco, i do too
[16:59] <MrEgg964> erUSUL: besides, I have SpeedStep on/off in my Bios - so I just took it for granted I had cpu scaling
[16:59] <SkyHigh> does anyone know anything about lmms?
[16:59] <Threetimes> I'm having problems connecting my phone (as usb mass storage). It always worked... http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m2e381694
[16:59] <res22> Really interested compiz related problem on karminc -> http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/7736/mouseevidence.png thanks for any help
[16:59] <help> hey
[16:59] <wsg> mapper I'm have a problem related to micorphone but loudspeakers works, the problem is related to modules configursation
[16:59] <mapper> MsMaco: No sound.
[16:59] <MsMaco> mapper: 9.04 --> 9.10 upgrade?
[17:00] <mapper> MsMaco, yes
[17:00] <MsMaco> mapper: uname -r
[17:00] <ravenger> yeah but how run the ffmpeg
[17:00] <ravenger> i dont find any gui
[17:00] <mapper> 2.6.28-11-generic
[17:00] <zsquareplusc> does someone want to hurt my eyes? it seems firefox gets a more tiny font in each ubuntu release :((
[17:00] <ixian_> Do I need the "alternate" install CD to do a software RAID-1 on Ubuntu 9.10, or can I just use the normal graphical installation CD?
[17:00] <MsMaco> mapper: run "sudo update-grub" the trouble is you're not running 9.10's kernel
[17:00] <ravenger> th gksudo command is not working
[17:00] <erUSUL> MrEgg964: wee i dunno the details but seems like p4 only went iddle when asked to lower its freq so you did not get much powersavings just overheat protection
[17:00] <tstebut> WTf I still have this "dummy0" interface I can't erase it
[17:00] <epinky> ravenger: http://www.guia-ubuntu.org/index.php?title=Conversi%C3%B3n_de_formatos_multimedia
[17:01] <MsMaco> TheCheeze: does what i just said to mapper  apply to you too
[17:01] <MsMaco> TheCheeze: ?
[17:01] <wsg> MsMaco can you help me? My microphone doesn't work
[17:01] <Threetimes> I'm having problems connecting my phone (as usb mass storage). It always worked... http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m2e381694
[17:01] <wsg> MsMAco but loudspeakers work
[17:01] <ravenger> epinky: I WILL TRY THAT
[17:01] <TheCheeze> MsMaco, my sound issue is a crackling noise and double-speed notify sounds
[17:01] <rednammoc> hi guys. short question. why "sh -c echo "hello" > world" doesnt put me the word hello in the file world ?
[17:01] <erUSUL> tstebut: sudo modprobe -r dummy
[17:01] <mapper> MsMaco, I think I did that yesterday, but it seems it keeps using the old kernel
[17:01] <MsMaco> wsg: for that, you file a bug. "ubuntu-bug linux" and then once you have a bug number "apport-collect -p alsa-base 12345" with your bug number instead of 12345
[17:01] <MsMaco> mapper: did you reboot after doing that?
[17:01] <wsg> msmaco ok thanks
[17:02] <MrEgg964> erUSUL: ok, thanks. Any idea how to get the different governors modprobed ?
[17:02] <LjL> teddymills: because you need to put the *whole* command inside "quotation marks" after -c
[17:02] <mapper> MsMaco, I think so. Currently, For the kernel line: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.31.3 root=UUID, for the initrd line: /boot/initrd.img-2.6.28-11-generic, is this normal?
[17:02] <tstebut>  erUSUL doesn't work : FATAL: Module pdummy0 not found
[17:02] <ilmenite^> anyone knows any ncurses based ide for c++/Python/Perl/Bash ?
[17:02] <MsMaco> mapper: no that is not normal
[17:02] <erUSUL> MrEgg964: nope
[17:02] <XVampireX> I've got another little question folks, if anyone can help me
[17:02] <Machtin> hm.. i tried to install a pdf-printer.. but it doesn't print a file. anyone got an idea what might be wrong? the dialogue says "Printer 'CUPS-PDF_printer': 'cups-insecure-filter'.
[17:02] <erUSUL> tstebut: i typed dummy not dummy0
[17:02] <XVampireX> I can't get into a local network...
[17:02] <MsMaco> mapper: should be /boot/initrd.img-2.6.31-14-generic
[17:03] <MrEgg964> erUSUL: thanks anyway. Bye.
[17:03] <erUSUL> MrEgg964: no problem
[17:03] <enduser000> usser: thanks again, it works well in kubuntu, ubuntu, and os x
[17:03] <mapper> MsMaco, even after running that command, which said "Updating /boot/grub/menu.lst, it still shows up as I mentioned above
[17:03] <XVampireX> It says failed to retrieve share list from server
[17:03] <[manas]> how to unistall program in terminal????
[17:03] <MsMaco> mapper: oh god...grub is breaking in worse ways than i realized
[17:03] <Roasted> I installed virtualbox from the web site with a deb - and now I have no idea where it is.???
[17:03] <ixian_> Do I need the "alternate" install CD to do a software RAID-1 on Ubuntu 9.10, or can I just use the normal graphical installation CD?
[17:03] <airforceguy> guys how do i get a trash icon on desktop ???? this is pissing me please help
[17:03] <tstebut> erUSUL, oh sorry, right, so : FATAL: Module pdummy not found.
[17:03] <boomer84> Anyone know if there is going to be a new eeeconfig for the eeePC? that package was a godsend!
[17:03] <malikkite> hello to everybody
[17:04] <erUSUL> tstebut: again dummy not pdummy
[17:04] <wolfgang> wolfgang
[17:04] <erUSUL> tstebut: drop the p
[17:04] <enduser000> is "passwd -l" a good idea to disable all root logins? I used passwd "password" to enable them now I want to get rid of it
[17:04] <ravenger>    epinky: but there is no mp3 to .dcf in that software
[17:04] <Threetimes> Roasted: applications > system tools > sun virtualbox
[17:04] <TimeRider> dahdi-linux on karmic 64bit - can't get it to compile... anyone been here?
[17:04] <ravenger> epinky:  i had seen it
[17:04] <tstebut> erUSUL all right thats it thanks a lot
[17:04] <Dr_Willis> airforceguy:  easy way..find/install ubuntu-tweak it has a chgeck box for it
[17:04] <erUSUL> tstebut: no problem
[17:04] <mapper> MsMaco, I do see the file initrd.img-2.6.31-14-generic under /boot folder, maybe I could just manually change it to that one ..
[17:04] <epinky> ravenger: but it supports it, check  manual
[17:04] <Roasted> threetimes - system tools isnt even listed...
[17:04] <Dr_Willis> airforceguy:  i hate the trashcan on the desktop :)
[17:04] <TheCheeze> MsMaco, thanks for the grub update advise. will go restart and try
[17:04] <MsMaco> mapper: yes do that
[17:05] <Daedalus-Sax> is there a way to make the new software center be as verbose as the old add/remove programs feature was? the software center doesn't let you see the console or let you see in depth how the download progress is going....
[17:05] <TimeRider> notice in linux-source - a link to linux (which aint there)
[17:05] <Threetimes> Roasted: it might be slightly different as I don't have ubuntu in English.
[17:05] <MsMaco> Daedalus-Sax: no its not done yet...
[17:05] <MsMaco> Daedalus-Sax: might want to use synaptic
[17:05] <Bsims> I just upgraded to karmic and everything works but my keyboard lights... numlock nor capslock work anyone have anyideas?
[17:05] <airforceguy> dr_willis: me 2 but i needed for my avan dock
[17:05] <theartoftech> dual monitor issue with Dell 610 and 22" monitor
[17:05] <Daedalus-Sax> MsMaco: thanx dude, ill do that.
[17:06] <MsMaco> Daedalus-Sax: dudette ;)
[17:06] <Daedalus-Sax> MsMaco: sorry dudette... LOL
[17:06] <robin0800> Daedalus-Sax: you can use the synaptic package manager
[17:06] <ollie___> Hey, how can i check to see what my disk drive can do? ie can it write / rewrite dvds etc?
[17:06] <Guest26827> hello. i have a fresh installed 9.10 and have trouble enabling the orca magnifier.
[17:06] <Roasted> threetimes - got it, thanks
[17:06] <mapper> MsMaco, It could be failing because I compiled a vanilla kernel ..
[17:06] <Threetimes> Roasted: and, what was it?
[17:07] <llutz> ollie___: wodim -prcap
[17:07] <Dr_Willis> airforceguy:  i much perfer gnome-do;s dock  :)
[17:07] <Daedalus-Sax> thats the first thing i do is make a icon on the gnome deskbar using gksu synaptic. no prob
[17:07] <Machtin> hm.. i tried to install a pdf-printer.. but it doesn't print a file. anyone got an idea what might be wrong? the dialogue says "Printer 'CUPS-PDF_printer': 'cups-insecure-filter'..
[17:07] <Dr_Willis> airforceguy:  actaully most docks have a trashcan feature for them also
[17:07] <mapper> vmlinuz-2.6.31.3 is the vanilla kernel I compiled before ..
[17:07] <Daedalus-Sax> bye all again
[17:07] <yancho> ctmjr,  fixed it .. i had an extra "i" in monitor name lol :) thanks alot
[17:07] <ollie___> Thanks :)
[17:07] <MsMaco> ollie___: "sudo lshw | less" then type "/cdrom" to scroll down to that part
[17:07] <MsMaco> ollie___: there'll be a "capabilities: " line a bit below it
[17:07] <i_am_null> i just did the dist upgrade, but menu.lst was not updated, still running 2.6.28-14-generic, how do i update menu.lst to karmic ?
[17:07] <Roasted> threetimes - system tools was marked to show up, but it didnt because there werent any valid programs within it. Virtualbox was in there twice, and only 1 of them was marked. I marked the other one instead and now it showed up since the valid virtualbox was listed. I just deleted the other virtualbox entry, no idea why I had 2, but only 1 worked, hence why system tools only showed up when it had the VALID virtualbox link
[17:08] <Guest26827> http://paste.debian.net/50394/
[17:08] <Bsims> I just upgraded to karmic and everything works but my keyboard lights... numlock nor capslock work anyone have any ideas?
[17:08] <mapper> MsMaco, that update-grub command didn't attempt to add a single line for the 9.10 kernel
[17:08] <ctmjr> yancho: your welcome funny how just one little typo can ruin your day
[17:08] <Guest26827> i got this error in console when trying to enabling the magnifier
[17:08] <Threetimes> Roasted: ah, it is system tools after all :D
[17:08] <fran7ic> hi all. my movie player is not working. when i start the movie it is just showing one big black screen and thats it. how can i fix that?
[17:08] <ixian_> Do I need the "alternate" install CD to do a software RAID-1 on Ubuntu 9.10, or can I just use the normal graphical installation CD?
[17:08] <TheCheeze> still says 2.6.31-14-generic MsMaco
[17:09] <malikkite> hello, i would like to know the following: I got the 8.04 lts and i know the next lts is the ubuntu 10, so if i´ll wait the new relise, to upgradind to it, i´ve to upgrade trought each normal version or i will able to upgrade directly from 8.04 lts to 10.04 lts? thank you on advance.
[17:09] <Threetimes> I'm having problems connecting my phone (as usb mass storage). It always worked... http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m2e381694
[17:09] <MsMaco> TheCheeze: yours is fine.youve got a normal audio bug. file it
[17:09] <MsMaco> mapper: pastebin your menu.lst please?
[17:09] <enduser000> fran7ic: what kind of movie are you trying to play? (might need codecs)
[17:09] <yancho> ctmjr,  now off to fix another issue ith a webcam - on 9.04 works fine and 9.10 nothing - just pink
[17:09] <wojtekrj> I have problem with my deskbar, and I haven't find solution in forums/google. When I add Deskbar-applet to my gnome-panel, it consuming 100 % of my CPU's time and take 3-8 MB of RAM per second. Deskbar works on other account on my computer. Does anybody have same problem? I've already deleted deskbar configuration in .local and .gconf
[17:09] <Fager> too bad my ati 9600 M10 work so poorly with latest ubuntu
[17:09] <TheCheeze> how do i file an audio bug? MsMaco
[17:09] <VCoolio> malikkite: you can upgrade from lts to lts directly
[17:09] <Fager> google earth becomes unusable
[17:09] <stimpie_> It appears I cant install anything using the software center (it did work yesterday) is this me or is there a server problem?
[17:10] <fran7ic> enduser000: i have all codecs, and the movie is just for test but it is "Fight club"
[17:10] <malikkite> than VCoolio
[17:10] <malikkite> yhank
[17:10] <drumbug1> stimpie_: I just used software center to install xchat... moments ago
[17:10] <malikkite> thank
[17:10] <mapper> MsMaco, I just changed it
[17:10] <Dr_Willis> fran7ic:  run the video player from terminal, play video. look for error messages
[17:10] <AlexQ> Friend cannot connect using Pidgin to freenode. What could be up?
[17:10] <MsMaco> TheCheeze: "ubuntu-bug linux" then once you have a bug nmber "apport-collect -p alsa-base 12345" replacing 12345 with your bug number
[17:10] <enduser000> fran7ic: hmm, you're using totem, right? you could try vlc to make sure it's a gstreamer error (I don't think vlc uses gstreamer)
[17:10] <MsMaco> mapper: ok well try to boot into your changed one then
[17:11] <Dr_Willis> I much perfer vlc to totem also.
[17:11] <MsMaco> mapper: you need to be running 2.6.31-14-generic
[17:11]  * drumbug1 likes vlc
[17:11] <TheCheeze> MsMaco, also, when i removed the pulse/ubuntu-desktop, my xchat icon went back to where it belongs. with them installed it is not in the tray
[17:11] <Ruby-g> I want Firefox starts in fullscreen mode, how does it do
[17:11] <fran7ic> Dr_Willis, no errors
[17:11] <mapper> MsMaco, http://pastebin.com/m68794567, I still have it as the 2nd boot option
[17:11] <fran7ic> enduser000: yes, it is totem, and ok, i will try vlc
[17:11] <Dr_Willis> fran7ic:  no sound either?
[17:12] <mickster04> is there a equaliser program for general sound output?
[17:12] <Arsin> Hey my mouse doesn't work after login, any help? I tried two mice and it has the same result every time. Tried unplugging and putting it back, which does nothing.
[17:12] <drumbug1> Ruby-g: F11
[17:12] <enduser000> fran7ic: okay good luck
[17:12] <fran7ic> Dr_Willis: there is sound, but it is just one black screen
[17:12] <Balsaq> help getting online
[17:12] <fran7ic> enduser000: thanks
[17:12] <MsMaco> TheCheeze: i dont use gnome
[17:12] <Thrae> Anyone here use CrashPlan for backup services? I'm having trouble using it over a VPN. It's listening on both sides and is trying to connect, but never succeeds. Backup Source = Ubuntu Stable, Backup Dest = Windows XP
[17:12] <Tesssa> question did a upgrade from xubuntu 9.4 to xubuntu 9.10 took just over 2 hours  then it restarted up came the new xubuntu desktop and stopped at the login window with my name in it click on it and then entered my password the screen flickered arrived back at the start up and the login window and thats as far as i9 got just kept returning to the login window
[17:12] <Dr_Willis> fran7ic:  try disabling compiz, it could be a compiz issue.. or some vdeo codec that totam has no idea what to do with
[17:12] <MsMaco> mapper: you ned to change the initrd line...
[17:12] <stimpie_> drumbug1: I have switched to another mirror, works again
[17:13] <mapper> MsMaco, yes, both lines in my case
[17:13] <Fager> t looks like I can't play music with rythembox and play a video with totem or vlc. The movie players crashes
[17:13] <Fager> any one know something about this?
[17:13] <Helsinkiii> hi. there is a green label on my top left corner that says SAMSUNG 19".How do I disable this
[17:13] <mapper> ok, I have to reboot ..
[17:13] <fran7ic> Dr_Willis: i think it is some codec that totem doesn't know what to do with it, how can i remove it?
[17:13] <mickster04> Helsinkiii, its part of the display option
[17:13] <mickster04> s
[17:14] <Helsinkiii> mickster:how to disable?
[17:14] <fran7ic> Dr_Willis: it says that it is using something and i can't remove it :C
[17:14] <Edmund> @boomernang- if you're there, thanks, I now have speedy internet
[17:14] <julianoliver> Tesssa: sure the password is the same?
[17:14] <Dr_Willis> fran7ic:  remove totem? Dont.. Just intall vlc and gnome-mplayer and try those.. install the w32codecs also from the medibuntu repos.
[17:14] <ForestBear> guys i can't boot after updating to Karmic
[17:14] <ForestBear> basically gdm fails
[17:14] <Dr_Willis> fran7ic:  get away from the windows mentality of always haveing to 'remove' thiungs.. :)
[17:14] <Tesssa> oh yes i am certain my password was correct
[17:14] <fran7ic> Dr_Willis: okay, thanks :)
[17:15] <mickster04> Helsinkiii, systyem>pref>displ and uncheck"display in panel"
[17:15] <fran7ic> Dr_Willis: i'll keep that in mind, about the removing things ^^
[17:15] <ravenger> epinky: when i tried to convert an mp3 to .dcf  is giving the following error  http://paste.org/pastebin/view/11448
[17:15] <ForestBear> guys why doesn't my gdm start? started after upgrading to karmic
[17:15] <boomernang> Edmund: nice one! enjoy it
[17:15] <drumbug1> ForestBear: do you get an error?
[17:16] <boomernang> Fager: are you talking about mp3's and closed video formats?
[17:16] <julianoliver> Tesssa: alternatively, i would check #xubuntu - ask in there. i'd say there's a file that needed to be deleted/altered in the upgrade that wasn't.
[17:16] <airforceguy> dr.willis: gnome docky is the same as gnome do
[17:16] <Guest83257> Are there instructions for getting an ATI card to work properly? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI doesn't seem to cover 9.10.
[17:16] <Tesssa> i did type a wrong password in it to see what would happen tolde me password not authenticated but with the correct password just kept returing to the login window
[17:16] <ravenger>  epinky: when i tried to convert an mp3 to .dcf  is giving the following error  http://paste.org/pastebin/view/11448
[17:16] <airforceguy> is gnome docky same as gnome do search ...
[17:16] <boomernang> Fager: try installing ubuntu-restricted-formats
[17:16] <ForestBear> drumbug1:Unable to find users: no seat-id found
[17:16] <mastermolch> hi, i have a problem with 5.1 sound and karmic. when i set 5.1 in the sound config, all sounds sound hard, metalized, unnatural. i read other users have this to, its a problem with pulseaudio. is there any way to fix it?
[17:16] <ForestBear> drumbug1:/etc/profile: 29: [[: not found
[17:17] <epinky> ravenger: dya have any dcf file?
[17:17] <julianoliver> Tesssa: definitely try the #xubuntu channel.
[17:17] <SJr> I suspect that my upgrade to Karmic didn't go so well, it got locked up a few times, and thten I finally just completed it with dpkg --configure -a, but now my system seems unstable, things like Appport crash, I can't hibernate or suspend to RAM and bring the system back up. Is there perhaps something I forgot to do, or is it time to reinstall?
[17:17] <somaunn> hello guys
[17:17] <mickster04> hi
[17:17] <SJr> !torrents
[17:17] <Tesssa> i have had to reinstall xubuntu 9.4 to get on the net
[17:17] <ctmjr> airforceguy: yes docky is just a dock for gnome-do with other options
[17:17] <ForestBear> drumbug1:GdmDisplay: display lasted  0.01245 seconds
[17:17] <julianoliver> SJr: damn, i would probably consider copying off your home directory and doing a clean install.
[17:17] <Tesssa> ok will do thanks
[17:18]  * artcore is back
[17:18] <epinky> ravenger: I mean a working dcf file
[17:18] <ForestBear> drumbug1: then it says to check X log for errors, and when i try startx it says "radeon" module not found
[17:18] <drumbug1> ForestBear: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/consolekit/+bug/433928
[17:18] <satbir7> Hey GUYS..
[17:18] <somaunn> got error-5 when installing karmik koala
[17:18] <airforceguy> ctmjr: how do i download the docky one .i have gnome do
[17:18] <EtherNet> COngratulations people.. Karmic Koala seems to has fixed a lot of issues.
[17:18] <natschil> Hello. I upgraded ubuntu from karmic, and left it for a while. It rebooted, and then came a bunch of errors. Basically what I think happened is the grub was not installed properly, as there is no 9.10 option in grub...I have an ubuntu live cd here, so I tried to run grub-install, which worked somewhat but there is no menu, only a shell. Any suggestions on how to fix this?
[17:18] <satbir7> new to Ubuntu
[17:18] <EtherNet> I've migrated all my personal computers from Jaunty to Karmic correctly.
[17:18] <mickster04> satbir7, whats your problem
[17:18] <SJr> julianoliver,  yeah my home directory is a seperate partition.
[17:19] <artcore> EtherNet: what do You mean?
[17:19] <satbir7> alps touchpad is slow
[17:19] <IndyGunFreak> EtherNet: some would argue it has created more issues... :).. its all in the eye of the beholder.
[17:19] <chiwawa_42> Hi ! what's the current replacement for easyubuntu ? I've heard of a soft to enable codecs and things like dvd playback almost automaticaly
[17:19] <andresmh> in order to help debug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/409819 I was told to do  sudo apt-get install inux-backports-modules-alsa-karmic, however i get this error: E: Couldn't find package inux-backports-modules-alsa-karmic eventhough I have checked "Unsupported updates" in the Software Sources app. Any ideas?
[17:19] <julianoliver> SJr: ok, you're ready to go then.
[17:19] <somaunn> SJr: yeah for me too
[17:19] <satbir7> response is slow ...
[17:19] <erana> natschiL : try running startx
[17:19] <IndyGunFreak> chiwawa_42: google "medibuntu"
[17:19] <Bsims> I just upgraded to karmic and everything works but my keyboard lights... numlock nor capslock work anyone have any ideas?
[17:19] <mickster04> !ask | satbir7,
[17:19] <UbuntuUser> hi
[17:19] <ctmjr> airforceguy: am not to sure put there should be an option for the dock in preferences been awhile since i tried it
[17:19] <trothigar> HI, is hd0 always /dev/sda or can it be /dev/sdb etc?
[17:20] <mickster04> satbir7, just so you know
[17:20] <erUSUL> chiwawa_42: install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[17:20] <CPrgmSwR2> My sound will only come out of my mic
[17:20] <somaunn> SJr: but when trying installing karmik i'm receiving an error-5 msg
[17:20] <CPrgmSwR2> oops
[17:20] <natschil> erana: how? I can't boot, what I'm getting is the grub shell..
[17:20] <CPrgmSwR2> my sound will only come out of my headset
[17:20] <CPrgmSwR2> how can I get it to come out of my speakers
[17:20] <erana> trothigar: yes
[17:20] <satbir7> allright Sir... the thing is that my alps touchpad is slow , how can we fix that?
[17:20] <mickster04> anybody having battery problems with UNR
[17:20] <_Maximus> diff -r dir1 dir2 = total commander's synchronize tool ;)
[17:21] <chiwawa_42> IndyGunFreak: thanks
[17:21] <erana> natschil: Oh sorry, I thought you were in the login shell
[17:21] <ElectricBill> What 's different in Karmic that prevents KVM VM from responding to shutdown signal from virsh shutdown?  Any ideas?
[17:21] <boomernang> Fager: sorry the package is called ubuntu-restricted-extras
[17:21] <chiwawa_42> erUSUL: ok, will try that
[17:21] <Fager> boomernang: The video players till crash
[17:21] <drumbug1> ForestBear: does that bug look like the same problem you're having?
[17:21] <trothigar> erana, ty. have you got any idea why I'm being dumped in a grub rescue shell, after a fresh install of karmic?
[17:21] <erana> natschil: try readign the grub docs for fixing the boot problem
[17:21] <Shockrates> c
[17:21] <kankro> hell
[17:21] <Fager> boomernang: Yhea I notices the name
[17:21] <satbir7> the thing is that my alps touchpad is slow , how can we fix that?
[17:21] <EtherNet> artcore, I had lot of issues with intel graphic cards, and they're solved.
[17:21] <EtherNet> artcore, GNOME works much better on this version also
[17:21] <petfrogg> hello
[17:22] <natschil> trothigar: It seems several of us are having grub issues.
[17:22] <UbuntuUser> what's going on. My Ubuntu is updated painfully slow! I have extreemly fatsinternet connection (1MB/s) and system is updated painfully slow (60kB/s)
[17:22] <anachronik> are the grub issues also for upgrades from jaunty?
[17:22] <SJr> Should I use the 64-bit or 32-bit version of Ubuntu, I threw the 64-bit version on my server, but my laptop was running the 32-bit version.
[17:22] <trothigar> UbuntuUser, what servers are you using?
[17:22] <erana> natschil: I f I'm not nistaking you have to grub-install from the CD
[17:22] <LjL> !slow | UbuntuUser, what mirrors are you using?
[17:22] <anachronik> is there that probability?
[17:22] <erana> s/to/to run
[17:22] <SJr> The only problem I've ever had with 64 bit is with vp7 codecs
[17:22] <mourya> can someone help me configure internet on karmic
[17:23] <raven_> (how) can i connect RHYTHMBOX to jack?
[17:23] <satbir7> mickster04,  the question was that the alps touchpad is slow in ubuntu 9.10
[17:23] <Fager> boomernang: This is what VLC gives me : X11 request 132.19 failed with error code 11:
[17:23] <Fager>  BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)
[17:23] <mourya> stuck since last 48 hours
[17:23] <trothigar> SJr, I've had an issue with flash performance on karmic 64, its documented
[17:23] <mickster04> satbir7, yeah ok, i cant help you but mayb someone can
[17:23] <natschil> erana: that's what I've done, but I only get an  empty grub shell w/ no kernels.
[17:23] <zedster> hi, can someone whos booting into 9.10 post me their grub list?
[17:23] <X-TaZ> I still cant get wireshark with "apt-get install wireshark" under 9.10 UNR. Can i get some help ?
[17:23] <ElectricBill> mourya, whatsa matta?
[17:23] <UbuntuUser> trothigar: don't know exactly. i simply pushed ubdate to 9.10 button
[17:23] <julianoliver> mourya: what's the problem?
[17:23] <satbir7> grub list?
[17:24] <erana> Fager: maybe the /tmp dir is full
[17:24] <satbir7> it had ..
[17:24] <mickster04> zedster, there is a grub list still?
[17:24] <satbir7> two entries for ubuntu
[17:24] <milaz> LjL: is there a way to change mirrors, when upgrade is run from Update Manager?
[17:24] <SJr> So there is no reason to really upgrade to 64 bit ubuntu correct?
[17:24] <satbir7> two for vista
[17:24] <zedster> satbir7: boot/grub/menu.lst
[17:24] <mourya> @ElectricBill i can see my modem in the network manager
[17:24] <boomernang> Fager: can you start vlc without opening a movie?
[17:24] <satbir7> and two mem test
[17:24] <satbir7> sorry ...
[17:24] <zedster> satbir7: I did an in place install so still the old grub
[17:24] <natschil> zedster: can you pass it on to mee too?
[17:24] <Fager> erana: do I dare to rm -rf the /tmp dir?
[17:24] <satbir7> looged in to vista right now
[17:24] <LjL> milaz: i *think* that if it's only downloading, you can still interrupt it safely. but don't quote me on that.
[17:24] <mourya> But i cant activate auto connect for et0
[17:24] <trothigar> zedster, is that file auto generated now
[17:24] <andresmh> in order to help debug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/409819 I was told to do  sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-alsa-karmic, however i get this error: E: Couldn't find package linux-backports-modules-alsa-karmic eventhough I have checked "Unsupported updates" in the Software Sources app. Any ideas?
[17:24] <asterix15> I've upgraded to 9.10 and now all my 2D is really choppy. Tried enabling the proprietary ATI drivers but that's not working. Any suggestions on how to fix this?
[17:24] <erana> milaz: try modifying /etc/apt.sources
[17:24] <zedster> trothigar: in place install
[17:24] <ElectricBill> mourya, sorry, I'm not good with modems with Network manager...
[17:24] <Fager> boomernang: Yes I can
[17:25] <drumbug1> ForestBear: I'd also be curious about what's in your /etc/profile file.
[17:25] <trothigar> LjL, milaz is correct
[17:25] <UbuntuUser> if canonical want to save money for cds then they should do something with update mechanisms
[17:25] <ElectricBill> I typically hand configure ppp if I must use a modem.
[17:25] <zedster> trothigar: since I went 9.04->9.10  I still have the old grub
[17:25] <anachronik> is there any place where we can check real time the load on the ubuntu repositories?
[17:25] <natschil> is there a command for doing *only* the grub installing part of an install?
[17:25] <trothigar> zedster, ok
[17:25] <LjL> trothigar: about what?
[17:25] <zedster> natschil: yet
[17:25] <mourya> how to hand confuire
[17:25] <mourya> ?
[17:25] <mourya> ppp?
[17:25] <drumbug1> UbuntuUser:  you could host a mirror if you've got better resources
[17:25] <zedster> natschil: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24113
[17:25] <trothigar> LjL, I ment to say you were correct about interrupting it
[17:25] <ElectricBill> mourya, u said "modem", as in dialup over POTS, right?
[17:25] <LjL> ah
[17:26] <milaz> erana: I did. It's changing them back anyway. In fact, it even can't complete getting a list of packages from the server!
[17:26] <mourya> as in DSL
[17:26] <zedster> anyone have a working install of a 9.04 to 9.10 upgrade?
[17:26] <mickster04> zedster, unr but yeah
[17:26] <boomernang> Goto>System>Preferences>Multimedia Systems Selector (it may not be enabled in your menu, enable if not)...Choose Video, under default output change this to X Window System (No Xv), it may need a reboot to take effect, hope this helps... (thats from ubuntu forums for your error)
[17:26] <grawity> mourya: DSL doesn't have modems, and it uses PPPoE
[17:26] <mickster04> oh wait, i have the desktop version also working now:D
[17:26] <IndyGunFreak> drumbug1: its a lot easier to gripe than actually do something... :)
[17:26] <mickster04> zedster, oh wait, i have the desktop version also working now:D
[17:26] <mourya> sorry yes
[17:26] <boomernang> Fager: ^^
[17:26] <mourya> its pppoe
[17:26] <UbuntuUser> my last bus goes for 1h 30min. don't have more time.
[17:26] <zedster> mickster04: can you pastbin me your /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[17:26] <mourya> i tried using pppoeconf
[17:26] <ElectricBill> mourya, OK...
[17:26] <UbuntuUser> how to use mirro?
[17:26] <mourya> it detects oth eth0,eth1
[17:26] <UbuntuUser> soryy mirror
[17:27] <mickster04> zedster, i have the new grub
[17:27] <erana> milaz: try running apt-get update
[17:27]  * ElectricBill scratches head and strokes chin
[17:27] <milaz> LjL: trothigar: I don't afraid of interrupting it, since it can't get a list of packages from the server yet.
[17:27] <pechenie> /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[17:27] <zedster> wait, on an update?
[17:27] <mourya> bt when i try auto configure it doesnt respond
[17:27] <drumbug1> IndyGunFreak: :-)
[17:27] <mourya> time out
[17:27] <mickster04> zedster, i installed it
[17:27] <zedster> mickster04: how?
[17:27] <somaunn> receiving errno5 at 39% of the install process of karmik
[17:27] <pelmen> guys anyone experiencing really loud "BUMP" on new 9.10 when sound card awakes. For example if i was not using sound card (in any apps) for 1 minute, and then start watching movie on youtube is always starts with loud "BUMM" from speakers, and then goes to normal. Same for other apps. anyone ?
[17:27] <ElectricBill> mourya, I don't know anything about net mgr, maybe someone else does, but...
[17:27] <milaz> erana: ok
[17:27] <UbuntuUser> drumbug1: how to use mirror?
[17:27] <LjL> milaz: right, but i thought the upgrade (as opposed to a simple dist-upgrade with apt-get) did something to the system initially to prepare it for the upgrade
[17:27] <zedster> being stupid I left the old list in place, now I get no sound since its the new alsa and the old kernal
[17:27] <satbir7> any one ..... wants to help me with the slow response of Alps touchpad in ubuntu 9.10?
[17:28] <natschil> zedster: thanks.
[17:28] <mickster04> zedster, grub websote then the instructions, try sudo apt-get install grub
[17:28] <ElectricBill> If you have a shell and the ethtool command, you can determine which port it is attached to  to get started
[17:28] <pechenie> pelmen, russky? :)
[17:28] <drumbug1> UbuntuUser: What are you trying to do?  Download an ISO, or update from Jaunty - Karmic?
[17:28] <pelmen> pechenie: russki russki
[17:28] <airforceguy> how do you install a software that's already downloaded on your desktop ...what is the command in terminal
[17:28] <pechenie> pelmen, тоже со звуком траблы?
[17:28] <mourya> i am a newbie
[17:28] <zedster> mickster04: websote?
[17:28] <Fager> boomernang: it looks promesing, If I press the Test button without Xv I can see the test window. If I do it with Xv the configuration app crash!
[17:29] <mourya> how to use ethtool
[17:29] <LjL> !ru
[17:29] <pelmen> pechenie: угу а у тебя что ?
[17:29] <tstebut> can one tell me what is th command to graphically kill an app ?
[17:29] <mickster04> zedster, just google grub?
[17:29] <tstebut> With gnome
[17:29] <UbuntuUser> drumbug1: update jaunty-karmic
[17:29] <IdleOne> airforceguy: dpkg -i filename.deb
[17:29] <pechenie> pelmen, щелкает периодически
[17:29] <mickster04> zedster, i cant remember
[17:29] <cJ__> I installed 9.10 yesterday with a fresh install. I can't get my AT&T network card to work now. anyone have any ideas?
[17:29] <milaz> LjL: infact, it changed software sources.
[17:29] <mourya> @CJ_
[17:29] <pelmen> pechenie: оно щелкает когда звукавуха просыпаеться. ну ты прочел мое сообщение
[17:29] <milaz> LjL: but if I press Cancel, it reverts them back.
[17:29] <mourya> i am facing similar problem
[17:30] <mickster04> !ru| milas
[17:30] <Fager> boomernang: Thank you very much!
[17:30] <airforceguy> idleone: thank you
[17:30] <Fager> Every thing works now
[17:30] <singpolyma> I just upgraded to karmic, and the upgrade process froze (think my laptop overheated) halfway through the "cleaning up" stage.  I've run dpkg -a --configure and apt-get install -f and everything seems to be working... except my touchpad.  My touchpad no longer works at all.  Any ideas?
[17:30] <IdleOne> airforceguy: no problem
[17:30] <milaz> LjL: what I don't like is that it auto-guessed an update server based on my locale (I read the code)
[17:30] <zedster> cJ__: if you lsusb or lshw do you see it?
[17:30] <tstebut> mm ?
[17:30] <Ruby-g> I want Firefox starts in fullscreen mode, how does it do
[17:30] <LjL> milaz: ah, there is a cancel. i didn' even really know that
[17:30] <mourya> configure pppoe manuall
[17:30] <cJ__> mourya no luck at all?
[17:30] <boomernang> Fager: Boom. By any chance did you try set up an external display for your laptop recently?
[17:30] <zedster> Ruby-g: f11
[17:30] <pechenie> pelmen, не знаю, бывает несколько щелчков подряд. Допустим стираешь сообщение, жмешь бакспейс и символы кончились, и он вместе 3х нормальных звуков дает 3 щелчка
[17:30] <UbuntuUser> everyone must update ubuntu here and now? next time i'll update it week after release
[17:30] <LjL> !ru | pechenie, pelmen
[17:30] <milaz> LjL: and the update server is ru.archive.ubuntu.com it's very slow for me
[17:30] <mickster04> !en
[17:30] <XVampireX> Can anyone please help me?
[17:30] <Ruby-g> Zedde: automatically
[17:30] <mourya> @zedster
[17:30] <cJ__> zedster the network manager recognizes it
[17:31] <mourya> i tried using lusub
[17:31] <pelmen> pechenie: ааа это у тебя включены системные звуки....
[17:31] <airforceguy> idleone: i just did but nothing is happening..dpkg -i filename.deb right?
[17:31] <mourya> it shows my router
[17:31] <yancho> Anyone can help me with these two problems please: (1) All the title bars of the windos have disappeared. I tried to recompile the kernel but to no avail. (2) I have a webcam which used to work fine on my Ubuntu 9.04. Now on the .10 (on another PC) it is just displaying pink lines. Thanks!
[17:31] <aaron11> Hello!
[17:31] <pelmen> pechenie: го systems -> sound i tam mute system sounds
[17:31] <mickster04> yancho, i can help with the miximise thing#
[17:31] <boomernang> Fager: from what im reading, a lot of people have the same issue with an intel driver.. and it comes along after xorg.conf changes
[17:31] <ManDay> I'm having a little trouble with updating since Karmic came out - can anyone help? When I try to upgrade it says that it can't fetch the release notes and for a normal update it takes like forever
[17:31] <pelmen> pechenie: конечно не решение, но меньше бесит
[17:31] <IdleOne> airforceguy: correct, you need to cd to the dir you saved the .deb in first
[17:31] <yancho> mickster04,  yes please :)
[17:31] <boomernang> Fager: but awesome anyway - enjoy your vids :)
[17:31] <mickster04> yancho, terminal> gconf-editor
[17:31] <Fager> Thanks
[17:31] <cJ__> zedster it is showing in lsusb
[17:32] <pechenie> pelmen, da ne, menya silno ne besit
[17:32] <aaron11> ManDay: Do you have Internet connection
[17:32] <mickster04> yancho, then apps>maximus
[17:32] <LjL> !ru | pelmen, pechenie, are you going to keep ignoring this?
[17:32] <drumbug1> UbuntuUser: Go to Update Manager
[17:32] <MsMaco> yancho: can you alt+click-and-drag windows around?
[17:32] <Spirits-Sight> Can I install Ubuntu aside of Windows XP with out it messing up windows xp using Grub2
[17:32] <UbuntuUser> drumbug1: yes
[17:32] <IdleOne> airforceguy: i.e. cd Desktop > sudo dpkg -i filename.deb ( replace the filename with the real name )
[17:32] <pechenie> pelmen, lets go ubuntu ru :)
[17:32] <UbuntuUser> drumbug1: and then...
[17:32] <zedster> cJ__: have you stied ndiswrapper?
[17:32] <pelmen> Cmon guys, noone else reponded to my problem
[17:32] <ManDay> aaron11, of course...
[17:32] <drumbug1> UbuntuUser: go to Settings
[17:32] <yancho> yes MsMaco
[17:32] <mourya> @spirits high yes
[17:32] <pelmen> you ignored mine :)
[17:32] <MsMaco> yancho: if so, youve got a window manager, just no decorator. in which case id assume youve got compiz running. system -> preferences -> appearance -> desktop effects. disable them
[17:32] <gh0zt_> is there an equivelant of windows 'system restore' or am i going to have to make a full backup before doing updates?
[17:32] <drumbug1> UbuntuUser: use the "Ubuntu Software" tab
[17:32] <ManDay> im currently talking to you aaron11  - shod be proof enough
[17:32] <LjL> pelmen: this channel is in english. period.
[17:32] <Arsin> Hey my mouse doesn't work after login, any help? I tried two mice and it has the same result every time. Tried unplugging and putting it back, which does nothing.
[17:32] <cJ__> zedster, don't know what that is
[17:32] <mincevv> can comeone hel me with 9.10 ubuntu - to set up my wacom graphire tablet?
[17:33] <mickster04> MsMaco, it still doesnt work if gconf isnt set up right if its unr
[17:33] <aaron11> ManDay: Why not download the ISO and burn onto a cd then insert then update
[17:33] <airforceguy> idleone: this is the file name on my desktop cairo-dock-2.1.0.tar.bz2 ..no i really have no idea what is cd means
[17:33] <drumbug1> UbuntuUser: and where it says "Download From" you can select a different mirror (ideally one that is geographically close to you)
[17:33] <MsMaco> mickster04: oh...ok
[17:33] <ManDay> well... because update manager should be capable of doing that for me aaron11
[17:33] <zedster> cJ__: its a program (install from apt-get) that lets you use windows drivers for linux networking
[17:33] <MsMaco> mickster04: /me runs back to kde
[17:33] <ManDay> but of course, aaron11 , it would be a last resort
[17:33] <crohakon> anyone else ever get 10kbs or less when updating packages? This is going really slow.... it has even dropped below 1kbs.. =(
[17:33] <mickster04> MsMaco, you may be right tho
[17:33] <mickster04> let him try that
[17:33] <jonte> Hello! this is so that i have installed ubuntu with wubi dual boot with windows.When I chose ubuntu in dual boot gnu grub came uo and never countinun
[17:34] <mincevv> 9.10 ubuntu - wacom graphire tablet works all except eraser? Help?
[17:34] <cJ__> zedster, I have no Internet connection right now. I'm on my cell
[17:34] <trism> airforceguy: you should just be able to right click on the package and choose install, then you can use gdebi to install it
[17:34] <IdleOne> airforceguy: that is a different animal. why not install cairo from Synaptic package manager?
[17:34] <MsMaco> mincevv: im not surprised
[17:34] <yancho> thanks MsMaco  - fixed :)
[17:34] <drumbug1> UbuntuUser: does that make sense?
[17:34] <Defcon1> ripps so i re-did my partitions last night, still cannot get it to recognize my windows partition
[17:34] <mincevv> MsMaco: can I fix it?
[17:34] <UbuntuUser> let's check it
[17:34] <Spirits-Sight> mourya: so I should not run into any issue that would make my gf very unhappy?  I ask as I did the WBUI thing and it does not run as great as its not using ext4 or Grub2 it first goes to windows boot menu then a grub menu
[17:34] <IdleOne> airforceguy: right click on the file and extract it then look at the README file for instructions on installing
[17:34] <UbuntuUser> drumbug1: let's chek it
[17:35] <MsMaco> mincevv: i havent figured out all the buttons on my wacom bamboo fun tablet :-/
[17:35] <cJ__> zedster it says it connects but has an odd ip address and no connection to the outside world
[17:35] <drumbug1> UbuntuUser: what do you mean?
[17:35] <ManDay> where is the 9.10 minimal setup?
[17:35] <DarkKnight> how can i disable login for some user?
[17:35] <Jamesth> hi
[17:35] <boomernang> Fager: if you want to understand what you just did  - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_video_extension - read the first paragraph. Your driver must of got messy with 9.10. peace
[17:35] <zedster> cJ__: whats the ip?
[17:35] <UbuntuUser> drumbug1: so should I cancel update now?
[17:35] <ripps> Defcon1: *shrugs* I don't know then
[17:35] <drumbug1> UbuntuUser: are you in the middle of an update?
[17:35] <Jamesth> i was wondering if someone could help me with a hibernation issue that I have on my sony laptop please?
[17:35] <blaher> Hi, I'm having problems with my RAM being fully reconized
[17:35] <UbuntuUser> drumbug1: yes
[17:35] <Defcon1> ripps i think i might have to resort to reinstalling windows, oh well
[17:35] <airforceguy> idleone: i searched for cario no answer
[17:35] <aftertaf> !nfs
[17:35] <mincevv> MsMaco: what does 9.10 use there is nothing in xconf nor hal
[17:35] <IndyGunFreak> Defcon1: whats wrong that you need to reinstall windows?
[17:35] <ManDay> Is there any minimal version of 9.10 ?
[17:36] <blaher> I switched from 64bit vista with 4 gigs of ddr3 ram
[17:36] <MsMaco> mincevv: udev
[17:36] <Tesssa> once again how  after upgrade from xubuntu 9.4 to 9.10 do i keep being returned to the login window after the restart my login name and password are correct
[17:36] <blaher> and when I do a "free -mt"
[17:36] <ElectricBill> mourya, ethtool simply shows the physical state of an ethernet interface ... ethtool eth0
[17:36] <MsMaco> ManDay: you can do a minimal install from the Alternate cd
[17:36] <trism> airforceguy: sudo apt-get install cairo-dock
[17:36] <MsMaco> ManDay: minimal being...no X
[17:36] <Tesssa> no on answers on #xubuntu
[17:36] <R0b0t1> Hello, my computer was restarted while it was upgrading to 9.10, and boots, but only to a tty. I'm fairly familiar with a CLI interface, but I have no idea how to restart the upgrade. Help? :)
[17:36] <blaher> I only get 2499 total ram
[17:36] <UbuntuUser> drumbug1: now ubuntu dowloads new packages
[17:36] <cJ__> zedster 166.204.244.69
[17:36] <mincevv> MsMaco: man... every new version is on new input app
[17:36] <DarkKnight> how can i disable login for some user? (postgres)
[17:36] <Defcon1> IndyGunFreak i still cannot get grub to recognize my windows partition
[17:36] <IdleOne> airforceguy: try this link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CairoDock
[17:36] <IndyGunFreak> Tesssa: well, how did you upgrade from 9.4.. it doesn't exist
[17:36] <MsMaco> mincevv: the fdi file from hal should work with udev
[17:36] <drumbug1> UbuntuUser:  Ideally, you set that setting *before* you start a major download like that.  I would not advise cancelling the update if it's already started installing packages.... if it's only started downloading....you may be able to cancel and restart
[17:36] <adnc> hello, when i use a usb device the notification bubbles of from libnotify do not appear here with karmic. notification as such do work here, am i missing anything for karmic?
[17:36] <ViaNocturn85> hey, anyone able to help with internet problem?
[17:36] <ManDay> MsMaco, I'm talking about the minimal install which was there for 9.04 - so there is NO MORE minimal install for 9.10?
[17:37] <IndyGunFreak> Defcon1: oh thats right....well w/ grub 1, it would be easy... grub2... not so much.
[17:37] <MsMaco> mincevv: i got my wacom around alpha5 of 9.10 and used the hal fdi file from the wiki with udev
[17:37] <Tesssa> oh yes it does well 9.04 whatever
[17:37] <R0b0t1> Hello, my computer was restarted while it was upgrading to 9.10, and boots, but only to a tty. I'm fairly familiar with a CLI interface, but I have no idea how to restart the upgrade. Help? :)
[17:37] <mincevv> MsMaco: will try - but on 9.04 i had no luck with hal
[17:37] <MsMaco> ManDay: er...are you saying the alternate cd no longer offers that?
[17:37] <ManDay> Any idea why "check for updates" takes forever?
[17:37] <grawity> R0b0t1: Try 'apt-get upgrade'
[17:37] <MsMaco> mincevv: yeah i dont think the fdi file is complete, but i dont know enough / cant find enough docs...to figure out hwo to complete it
[17:37] <Tesssa> and it still returns me to the login window
[17:37] <cJ__> manday repos are really busy?
[17:37] <zedster> cj thats a proper cingular/at&t ip
[17:37] <IndyGunFreak> Tesssa: welt here's a big difference...
[17:38] <wildc4rd> evening all
[17:38] <ManDay> MsMaco, I'm not talking about the alternate cd. There was a download for "9.04 minimal" i cant find anything comparable for 9.10
[17:38] <Defcon1> ripps if i follow this (just to make sure I am doing this right) http://erickoo.wordpress.com/2009/06/14/how-to-add-vista-partition-to-grub-2-ubuntu-9-10-karmic-koala/  if windows is on /dev/sdb3 then i change hd0,1 to hd1,3 correct?
[17:38] <MsMaco> !mini | ManDay
[17:38] <ManDay> cJ__, prolly not - its trying to get updates for 9.04 which are outdated
[17:38] <drumbug1> wildc4rd: morning here  :-)
[17:38] <Tesssa> you know what i meant
[17:38] <MsMaco> mincevv: may i PM?
[17:38] <mourya> @ElectricBill it says Curent message level: 0x00000007(7)
[17:38] <zedster> cj__: that ip is good, maybe you need to log into something via your browser or something
[17:38] <R0b0t1> grawity: Nah, I know that's not it, it was something like dist-upgrade
[17:38] <ViaNocturn85> does anyone know why internet is fast one second then slower that 56k the next?
[17:38] <mourya> Link Detected:Yes
[17:38] <Tesssa> just some help if possible would be nice
[17:38] <cJ__> zedster, hmm. I always get ips that are 10. something. can you ping it?
[17:38] <ripps> Defcon1: yes, I belive so...
[17:38] <Spirits-Sight> mourya: did you get my post?
[17:38] <Belgarion> Good evening
[17:38] <grawity> R0b0t1: apt-get dist-upgrade, then.
[17:38] <blaher> I did install ubuntu 64 bit, so I'm not sure why I don't have 4gigs
[17:38] <IndyGunFreak> drumbug1: there was a guy here earlier who canceled an upgrade in the middle of installing, and couldn't figure out why he had a problem..
[17:39] <ManDay> MsMaco, thats it
[17:39] <zedster> cJ__: http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/ipall/?tool_id=67&token=&toolhandler_redirect=0&ip=166.204.244.69
[17:39] <bdelin881> after a karmic upgrade on my server i am getting this error: "mount:unknown filesystem type 'bind'" I get this error after doing mount -a, I have 2 binded directories on my server that are not getting bound when the system reboots
[17:39] <cJ__> zedster never had to login special before in 9.04
[17:39] <trism> ManDay: the minimal cd just downloads the packages from the internet, if you want a minimal install, you should do a command line install from the alternate cd as suggested...although https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[17:39] <Belgarion> I've upgraded another box to karmic from jaunty and am unable to log in
[17:39] <ElectricBill> mourya, ethtool will display many lines of output if there is a valid ethernet device there
[17:39] <DarkKnight> how can i disable login for some user? (postgres)
[17:39] <mourya> ya
[17:39] <MsMaco> mincevv: can i talk to you in a private message?
[17:39] <drumbug1> IndyGunFreak:  That's why I don't recommend it
[17:39] <mourya> it showed for eth0
[17:39] <trism> ManDay: first link on that page, karmic minimal cd
[17:39] <ctmjr> airforceguy: did you figure out how to get cairo-dock yet?
[17:39] <leaf-sheep> DarkKnight: System --> Admin --> Login
[17:39] <mincevv> MsMaco: yes
[17:39] <ripps> Defcon1: did you use remap it so that windows thought it was booting from hd(0,1) not (1,3)?
[17:39] <ManDay> trism, with the minimal cd i can choose what exactly i want
[17:39] <mourya> about supported ports
[17:39] <cJ__> zedster can't follow the link on my cell
[17:39] <ManDay> thats just what i need
[17:39] <airforceguy> idleone: problem solved i found it in packege manager ....i hope it works ..downloading now
[17:39] <ViaNocturn85> anyone else having internet trouble?
[17:39] <IndyGunFreak> drumbug1: me either, i always backup important stuff and reinstall...
[17:39] <drumbug1> Patience with the mirrors people, Patience!!
[17:40] <bdelin881> please help! :)
[17:40] <ManDay> anyway, what do I need to do to make that ISO bootable from USB`
[17:40] <ManDay> just dd?
[17:40] <thedude42> if anyone cares, the multiple disk thing that Roasted was talking about only affected the Karmic AMD64 RC release
[17:40] <IdleOne> airforceguy: glad to hear it :)
[17:40] <UbuntuUser> drumbug1: it is useless. nothing was changed. speed is painfully slow
[17:40] <ElectricBill> mourya, the last line will indicated whether it detected anything attached (Link detected; yes)
[17:40] <ManDay> prolly not, eh?
[17:40] <leaf-sheep> bdelin881: #ubuntu-server for server stuffs. ;)
[17:40] <xrandr> ok, how can I make my pc prefer my wireless connection for internet access rather than my hard wired connection
[17:40] <bdelin881> thanks!
[17:40] <Take0n> guys I have a problem with my sources list but I don't know where the problem is.. I have 2 entries with ppa.launchpad.net one for vlc and one for something else I see the error about launchpad but I don't know which of them is causing it
[17:40] <jken146> ManDay: unetbootin as a GUI tool that will do it all for you
[17:40] <ManDay> i didnt know it also existed for linux
[17:40] <ManDay> just knew it for win
[17:40] <Spirits-Sight> do I need do any thing speacail before instaling Ubuntu aside of windows XP? or after the fact? or will grub take care of it?
[17:40] <milaz> drumbug1: if I found out correctly, after you click on "Upgrade" button, it still chooses a server based on your locale.
[17:40] <drumbug1> UbuntuUser:  Sorry to hear that.  Next time try selecting a mirror near you - For now you will have to use patience and just let it work
[17:40] <DarK``_> Take0n: put a # in front of one and try again?
[17:40] <R0b0t1> How do you restart the upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10 from a tty.
[17:40] <ripps> Defcon1: Fabien in the comments give you a good example that might help
[17:40] <DarkKnight> leaf-sheep: not found
[17:40] <CobZo> blaher: so how much do you have?
[17:40] <xrandr> any takers?
[17:40] <IndyGunFreak> Take0n: why do you have a PPA entry for VLC?.. its in the repository
[17:40] <ZoeyMarie> Can someone help me figure out how to install the drivers for me wireless adapter? It stopped working when I upgraded to Karmic (it's something with the kernel). The readme file with the drivers is terrible. :(
[17:40] <grawity> R0b0t1: apt-get dist-upgrade
[17:41] <R0b0t1> Thank you
[17:41] <lianimator1> hi. I'm trying to use hal to configure my wacom.. but first. how do I name the fdi file?
[17:41] <Take0n> because I want latest version
[17:41] <ricree> Anyone know where to start diagnosing sound breaking for a single program after the upgrade?  So far, everything else seems to work fine for me
[17:41] <zedster> cJ__: the ip is a mobile one for cingular
[17:41] <IndyGunFreak> ZoeyMarie: whats the chipset on your wireless device?
[17:41] <jken146> ManDay: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[17:41] <mourya> yes it says yes
[17:41] <drumbug1> milaz: I believe that's right.... you can also set this.
[17:41] <leaf-sheep> DarkKnight: Meh? What do you mean? Not found? You don't see "Login Screen" under Administration?
[17:41] <R0b0t1> Now, my aformentioned ubuntu computer which is stuck in a tty has no internet nor dhcpd daemon. How could I get it connected to the internet?
[17:41] <Defcon1> ripps i put ubuntu and windows on the same drive along with the home folders all on the same partition, should I change how I have the drives plugged in(switch the plugs of the sata hard drives)?
[17:41] <natschil> my grub is screwed up, and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24113 solution 1 isn't very clear/not sure whether it works with karmic, and solution 2 says that there is no grub installed...any suggestions as to how I can only install grub only on my hard drive?
[17:41] <Bilz> people i seem to have broken my ubuntu. apt-get isn't working for me anymore, i posted it in the ubuntu forums but really want to get this fixed as quick as possible so I can get to work: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1308009
[17:41] <Jamesth> any ideas how I can get my laptop to hibernate when I close the screen?
[17:41] <ZoeyMarie> IndyGunFreak: Ralink 3070
[17:41] <jken146> Spirits-Sight: install windows first
[17:41] <blaher> system moniter only says I have 2.4 gigs
[17:41] <cJ__> zedster, ok. I wonder y I can't get Internet then. any ideas?
[17:42] <zedster> cj__:I would call them, or if you have anything on your computer like apache I can see if I can see it, pm me about that
[17:42] <jken146> R0b0t1: do-release-upgrade
[17:42] <IndyGunFreak> ZoeyMarie: hm, hadn't read anything on the ralinks... is anything in sys/admin/hardware drivers?
[17:42] <UbuntuUser> drumbug1: i have selecded one mirror nearby me but nothing changes
[17:42] <Spirits-Sight> jken146: windows on system already (XP)
[17:42] <grawity> lianimator1: /etc/hal/fdi/policy/ -- maybe 20-wacom.fdi, it isn't very important.
[17:42] <DarkKnight> leaf-sheep: yeah, but i cant disable login for postgres user
[17:42] <drumbug1> UbuntuUser: use patience, sorry
[17:42] <CobZo> blaher: what about the free -m command?
[17:42] <ArmyMan007_> hi
[17:42] <ViaNocturn85> can anyone tell me why my internet slows down really bad, then another time its really fast?
[17:42] <UbuntuUser> drumbug1: anyway thank a lot for helping me out
[17:42] <ArmyMan007_> i need some help with the installation process, and i need someone to PM me thorugh the process
[17:42] <ManDay> Once again: Can anyone tell me why my update-manger complains "Could not download the release notes - Please check your internet connection" when I try to upgrade to 9.10 ? The internet connection is clearly there (I'm here in the chat + "Check for updates" works)??
[17:42] <ZoeyMarie> IndyGunFreak: I don't think so (goes to check). It was working fine before the upgrade.
[17:42] <IndyGunFreak> UbuntuUser: you have to understand, there's a bazillion people trying to upgrade right now... i think you can download an alt. install cd, and use it to upgrade
[17:43] <jken146> Spirits-Sight: then just install ubuntu alongside it
[17:43] <blaher>              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[17:43] <blaher> Mem:          2499       1050       1448          0         55        633
[17:43] <drumbug1> UbuntuUser: sorry I couldn't help more.  Good luck with Karmic once you get it finished! :)
[17:43] <lianimator1> grawity: okay. after that. do I need to restart?
[17:43] <Spirits-Sight> jken146: so when I install ubuntu I will tell it install alongside it, so which boot loarder will it use?
[17:43] <ArmyMan007_> can anyone help me with the install?
[17:43] <K4nkr0> How to Boot Windows XP From UIbuntu
[17:43] <jken146> ManDay: have you tried do-release-upgrade ?
[17:43] <dodddummy> hmmmm, clicking on tasks in the taskbar doesn't always bring the task up.  that just me or is it a known issue?
[17:43] <K4nkr0> *Ubuntu
[17:43] <drumbug1> ArmyMan007: someone will: just ask your question
[17:43] <Take0n> I didn't add the key
[17:43] <ZoeyMarie> IndyGunFreak: Nope, nothing there but Nvidia stuff.
[17:43] <izzi> ManDay: try sudo aptitude update ; aptitude upgrade in een terminal
[17:43] <ArmyMan007_> T_T
[17:43] <jken146> Spirits-Sight: GRUB
[17:43] <fur2007> ть
[17:44] <Spirits-Sight> good
[17:44] <fur2007> ауу
[17:44] <milaz> UbuntuUser: yes, if you download an alt- with torrent, it would be much faster, and you will have an ability to upgrade with it
[17:44] <IndyGunFreak> ZoeyMarie: yeah, sorry i can't be more help, not really familiar w/ ralinks
[17:44] <RobLikesBrunch> Hello. I have all my music stored on a separate hard drive, and when I boot up each time I have to authenticate it...is there anyway to avoid this?
[17:44] <R0b0t1> jken146: Apparently, my computer is at the point where it JUST IS 9.10
[17:44] <cJ__> zedster also my subnet is 255.255.255.255 and default route 10.64.64.64
[17:44] <ArmyMan007_> i want to install ubuntu to a diffrent partition. already created one with 60GB, and i don't what to do in the install process
[17:44] <pelmen> guys anyone experiencing really loud "CLICK" on new 9.10 when sound card awakes. For example if i was not using sound card (in any apps) for 1 minute, and then start watching movie on youtube is always starts with loud "CLICK" from speakers, and then goes to normal. Same for other apps. anyone ?
[17:44] <ArmyMan007_> i want to install ubuntu to a diffrent partition. already created one with 60GB, and i don't what to do in the install process
[17:44] <ZoeyMarie> IndyGunFreak: I have the Linux drivers for it, I just can't figure out how to install them. :(
[17:44] <X-TaZ> is there a specific irc chan for the Netbook remix ?
[17:44] <ArmyMan007_> *know
[17:44] <UbuntuUser> milaz: it is imposible. my ubuntu is installed as windows application
[17:45] <zedster> cJ__: ya I cannot ping you... hmmm
[17:45] <izzi> !netbook
[17:45] <jken146> R0b0t1: OIC.  Then apt-get dist-upgrade might finish the process (although it might not work completely)
[17:45] <IndyGunFreak> ArmyMan007_: when it comes time to partition the drive, use the manual partition
[17:45] <zChris> X-TaZ: #easypeasy
[17:45] <Take0n> now i have another question, how do I change the terminal colors to black background and white text?
[17:45] <ArmyMan007_> IndyGunFreak: then what?
[17:45] <Thihi> Any ideas why ubiquity in karmic doesn
[17:45] <Spirits-Sight> jken146: I won't have to do any thing to GRUB2 to have it show the windows option?
[17:45] <chibihogoshino> pelmem:  yes i Amaranth
[17:45] <RobLikesBrunch> How do I automatically authenticate a hard drive...
[17:45] <grawity> Take0n: setterm -background black
[17:45] <Thihi> t show my /dev/sdb
[17:45] <ripps> Defcon1: Personally, how I set my up, is that I first had a small drive that would be only for windows. I connected only it to the computer and I than installed windows on it. Next, I took my larger drive and connected as the primary and the windows drive as my slave. I then installed Ubuntu on that drive and os-prober automatically added windows to my config. However, if my grub is ever botched, I can just disconnect my ubuntu drive, 
[17:45] <somaunn> does someone got a solution for errno 5 on karmik koala ?
[17:45] <jken146> Spirits-Sight: no, it should put an entry in for you
[17:45] <grawity> Take0n: Or, wait, what terminal you're talking about...
[17:45] <ViaNocturn85> btw how do i find out what drivers are being used for my wlan0?
[17:45] <X-TaZ> zChris i'm talking about the Ubuntu Netbook Remix
[17:45] <grawity> Take0n: ...try Edit -> Profiles.
[17:45] <milaz> pelmen: it was discussed week or two ago on #ubuntu+1, if I remember correclty
[17:46] <zChris> X-TaZ:i thought that was easypeasy :P
[17:46] <jken146> ViaNocturn85: sudo lshw
[17:46] <pelmen> milaz: ah... what was the result ?
[17:46] <ArmyMan007> what do i do after i choose manual?
[17:46] <ZoeyMarie> IndyGunFreak: Did you say anything while my ethernet port was frizzing out?
[17:46] <chibihogoshino> any way to get the samba to work like it did in 9.04 ?
[17:46] <Spirits-Sight> thanks
[17:46] <milaz> pelmen: I'm sorry, I don't remember the way, but that was fixed
[17:46] <r00to3> I am getting multiple hits from 127.0.0.1 on my firewall, what is ubuntu trying to get into?
[17:46] <IndyGunFreak> no
[17:46] <boomernang> pelmen: that sounds like the power saving stuff kicking in on your hda audio card. (new in karmic.)  comment out thelast line in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf with #
[17:46] <cJ__> zedster it worked perfect in 9.04 with no config needed
[17:46] <grawity> r00to3: From 127.0.0.1 to 127.0.01?
[17:46] <old_man> hello. I am using Karmic and Synaptic is unable to reload and get the new sources from both the main server as well as the server for India. The error shown is here, http://paste.ubuntu.com/306075/  . please help
[17:46] <satya> how can i load turbo c in ubuntu 9.04????
[17:46] <milaz> pelmen: like that guy updated the kernel, but I'm not sure
[17:47] <zedster> cJ__: pm your ifconfig
[17:47] <pelmen> boomernang: at last something :) thanks i'll try that
[17:47] <r00to3> grawity, yes!
[17:47] <Tesssa> everything works ok on 9.04
[17:47] <milaz> pelmen: or it was hardware setting...
[17:47] <grawity> r00to3: Very often, programs use loopback TCP connections (from and to 127.0.0.1) to communicate with other programs on the same PC.
[17:47] <UbuntuUser> actually when 9.10 was released? tday or yesterday?
[17:47] <pelmen> boomernang: i knew it was powesave or sleepmode... but did not know where to dig
[17:47] <natschil> hallo. Ich habe von jaunty auf karmic upgegraded, und nun klapp mein grub nicht :( Ich versuchte von einer live cd grub-install /dev/sda zu machen, aber das klappte auch nicht :( wie kann ich *nur* die installation von grub von der livecd laufen lassen?
[17:47] <Defcon1> is there any way to preview what grub2 will display without rebooting?
[17:47] <metropolis> I'm having trouble with my e1000e ethernet device on my thinkpad x200 since installing karmic. I can see the device in lspci, but that's it; dmesg reports no knowledge of the hardware. Any pointers on how to start debugging?
[17:47] <R0b0t1> UbuntuUser: yesterday
[17:47] <jbu> hi all. karmic realtek883 sound problems...the preference->sound tool doesn't show anything under hardware and syslogs don't show anything egregiously bad.  Can anyone help?
[17:47] <Bilz> people i seem to have broken my ubuntu. apt-get isn't working for me anymore, i posted it in the ubuntu forums but really want to get this fixed as quick as possible so I can get to work: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1308009
[17:47] <arand> UbuntuUser: 29th
[17:47] <DarkKnight> natschil: try #ubuntu-de or speak english
[17:48] <grawity> r00to3: Remember, 127.0.0.1 always means your own PC. If both ends are 127.0.0.1, then it does not go anywhere outside.
[17:48] <cJ__> zedster I don't know that I can start a pm with this app. send me one and I'll see if I can respond
[17:48] <TheCheeze> anyone know of a fix for crackling in Karmic with a Nvidia HDA soundcard?
[17:48] <r00to3> grawity, ty
[17:48] <robin0800> UbuntuUser: thursday
[17:48] <Take0n> thank you very much :)
[17:48] <natschil> DarkKnight: oh sorry, I thought I posted that in #ubuntu-de :)
[17:48] <CobZo> blaher: what about dmesg? it should tell the amount of memory you really have. if it doesn't tell the truth, then either your bios is buggy or your hardware simply doesn't support the amount of memory you have
[17:48] <UbuntuUser> where to get alternate cd?
[17:48] <RobLikesBrunch> Is there anyway I can automatically authenticate a hard drive on start-up?
[17:49] <natschil> so yeah, translation of that is: how can I fix my grub from the livecd without instaling everything else?
[17:49] <dalton2345> who like epiphany?
[17:49] <Belgarion> UbuntuUser: ubuntu.com
[17:49] <alazyworkaholic> I have 3 computers  & a VERY slow internet connection. I'm installing 9.10 on all the machines, & downloading updates & software for each one individually would take a week. Can I set up the computers on this home network so that they'll check each other for software updates & software packages before going online?
[17:49] <UbuntuUser> Belgarion: will be fast?
[17:49] <skalka> i've installed karmic and i cannot have frequency scaling, with jaunty everything worked fine
[17:49] <boomernang> TheCheeze: comment out the last line in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf - the clicking comes from the new power saving option for HDA cards in karmic.
[17:49] <sinelaw> hi, what's the default theme for the new ubuntu?
[17:49] <RobLikesBrunch> Is there anyway I can automatically authenticate a hard drive on start-up?
[17:49] <ViaNocturn85> is it right for ethernet connection to be vboxnet0?
[17:49] <Belgarion> UbuntuUser: torrents are available
[17:49] <dalton2345> sinelaw: human
[17:49] <milaz> UbuntuUser: if you choose torrent, it will certainly be!
[17:49] <sinelaw> dalton2345, thanks
[17:49] <milaz> UbuntuUser: the more users download, the faster torrent is.
[17:50] <tehboriz> hey guys i just updated to 9.10... and my wireless doesn't work anymore :( ndiswrapper is fine but my hidden network won't connect.. wifi-radar doesn't work either
[17:50] <UbuntuUser> may i updatte existing ubutu distro using laternate cd?
[17:50] <UbuntuUser> sorry alternate
[17:50] <milaz> UbuntuUser: yes.
[17:50] <kudi1> i just upgraded to 9.10 and im trying to figure out why my system freezes after maybe 20 mins of no use, the time is also frozen and im forced to restart. any idea on where I should start?
[17:50] <jken146> old_man: this means that apt is already running.  Check that you are not using software centre or apt-get, aptitude or apt from the command line, and that there are no other synaptics open
[17:51] <milaz> UbuntuUser: you boot into your Ubuntu, then put Alternate CD in, and it offers you an update
[17:51] <Belgarion> UbuntuUser: read the upgrade help page for a guide
[17:51] <jbu> all, what was the sound server before pulseaudio/karmic release
[17:51] <UbuntuUser> whithout internet connection is it possible too?
[17:51] <TheCheeze> boomernang, i tried that already. did not work
[17:51] <milaz> UbuntuUser: yes
[17:51] <Belgarion> yes
[17:51] <jken146> old_man: If that doesn't help, type 'sudo killall apt' and try again.
[17:51] <old_man> jken146: ok! I'll try to see if it's running elsewhere using System Monitor.
[17:51] <kosmic> what the hell is UBUNTU ONE
[17:51] <jtran> i have separate home partition formatted to ext3 and / partition to ext4 for karmic do i have to reformat my /home to ext4 to get speed benefits?
[17:51] <kosmic> wtf
[17:51] <Belgarion> you can also just mount the iso file and save yourself the burning and the cd
[17:51] <jken146> !one | kosmic
[17:51] <dalton2345> does rythmbox handle shoutcast radio as amarok
[17:51] <jken146> kosmic: one.ubuntu.com
[17:52] <grawity> kosmic: One gigabyte of online storage. Something you are not forced to use.
[17:52] <milaz> UbuntuUser: it will only try to download sveral packages you had installed which are not on CD.
[17:52] <boomernang> TheCheeze: did you restart?
[17:52] <kosmic> hah. oh i see
[17:52] <theartoftech> Display problems with ubuntu 9.10 on Dell610 connected to DVI LCD 22" monitor
[17:52] <Spirits-Sight> what the  IRC for MythBuntu
[17:52] <TheCheeze> boomernang, yep
[17:52] <kosmic> Back up your life with Ubuntu One
[17:52] <milaz> UbuntuUser: AFAIK, you can opt out of this, and, in general, an update will be done
[17:52] <kosmic> Is it encrypted ;)
[17:52] <tehboriz> kosmic, no haha
[17:53] <grawity> Why isn't it?
[17:53] <bright> has anyone got eclipse or aptana working on 9.10?
[17:53] <UbuntuUser> milaz: using gprs connection it will be painfully slow and extremly expensive
[17:53] <jtran> can someone help me? i have separate home partition formatted to ext3 and / partition to ext4 for karmic do i have to reformat my /home to ext4 to get speed benefits?
[17:53] <theartoftech> can use either laptop monitor or LCD but not both
[17:53] <jken146> jtran: no, don't bother
[17:53] <zedster> bright: no, but eclipse just needs java, just never install it from apt-get :-)
[17:53] <tehboriz> grawity, cause in my location i doubt anyone is gonna try connecting because nobody knows what a mac filter is.. and i know they're unreliable and easy to crack but in my small town I don't think so
[17:53] <billybigrigger> anyone here have a working ms lifecam vx1000 in 9.10?
[17:53] <Belgarion> anybody know what the procedure is to debug display driver issues?
[17:54] <milaz> UbuntuUser: yes, but do you have another connection?
[17:54] <jtran> jken146: thanks and will all my applications data be saved?
[17:54] <boomernang> TheCheeze: can ya show me what you commented out in pastebin>?
[17:54] <grawity> tehboriz: kosmic was asking about UbuntuOne, not your WLAN.
[17:54] <kosmic> hah
[17:54] <zedster> billybigrigger: have you tried cheese and see if it works?
[17:54] <billybigrigger> yup
[17:54] <grawity> tehboriz: At least I think so.
[17:54] <tehboriz> oh ok
[17:54] <kosmic> i suspect google will buy canonical sometime
[17:54] <alazyworkaholic> I have 3 computers  & a VERY slow internet connection. I'm installing 9.10 on all the machines, & downloading updates & software for each one individually would take a week. Can I set up the computers on this home network so that they'll check each other to share software updates & software packages before going online?
[17:54] <billybigrigger> nothing but green image
[17:54] <jken146> jtran: if you format a partition all data on it will be lost
[17:54] <zedster> kosmic: shuttleworth > google
[17:54] <milaz> alazyworkaholic: check apt-cacher-ng
[17:54] <zedster> alazyworkaholic: just do it from disc
[17:55] <TheCheeze> boomernang, is just one line, so mind if i pm it?
[17:55] <milaz> alazyworkaholic: or upgrade one machine, and then copy its /var/cache/apt to another
[17:55] <Arsin> Hey my mouse doesn't work after login, any help? I tried two mice and it has the same result every time. Tried unplugging and putting it back, which does nothing.
[17:55] <jtran> jken146: but i dont have to so say i redownload amarok its .amarok in my home folder so will the applications data be lost in the upgrade?
[17:55] <Promethes> hi, ive updated jaunty to karmic and now i see 1214 manually installed deb packages in synaptic (there are core packages like linux-image-generic-xxxx). What is going on with that? Anyone?
[17:55] <milaz> alazyworkaholic: it will save you a lot of bandwidth
[17:55] <boomernang> TheCheeze: sure
[17:55] <skalka> I cannot have frequency scaling working, any suggestion?
[17:55] <thedude42> alazyworkaholic if you have another spare machine you can build an ipcop box and install a proxy addon that caches all the downloads
[17:55] <boomernang> kosmic: google will buy microsoft before it buys canonical
[17:55] <om26er> Arsin: my touchpad doesn't work at boot i have to disable and then enable it
[17:56] <Promethes> also linux-image-generic is marked for automatic deletion in karmic
[17:56] <zash> milaz: how crazy would it be to have /var/cache/apt on nfs?
[17:56] <zedster> billybigrigger: have you tired cheese?
[17:56] <Arsin> om26er: Doesn't work for me, tried that too
[17:56] <milaz> zash: it depends on the stability of nfs
[17:56] <billybigrigger> zedster, yes i said
[17:56] <Belgarion> anybody know what the procedure is to debug display driver issues?
[17:56] <billybigrigger> nothing but a green image
[17:56] <milaz> zash: I never tried it
[17:56] <jken146> alazyworkaholic: look into creating an apt repository on your LAN
[17:56] <pakair> installed 9.10 on VirtualBox, res is 800x600, there is no /etc/X11/xorg.conf hence cannot change to a higher res. Any ideas?
[17:56] <ZoeyMarie> does tar -xvzf work for .bz2?
[17:56] <milaz> zash: but you can try this on Samba :)
[17:57] <milaz> zash: my preferred method still is apt-cacher-ng
[17:57] <w3wsrmn> ZoeyMarie: xvjf for bz2
[17:57] <sebsebseb> hi
[17:57] <ZoeyMarie> w3wsrmn: Thanks
[17:57] <ezzieyguywuf> tar xvf seems to just work for everything
[17:57] <RobLikesBrunch> Is there anyway I can automatically authenticate a hard drive on start-up?
[17:57] <Arsin> sebsebseb:  my mouse doesn't work after the login screen any clue why?
[17:57] <zash> ezzieyguywuf: yes, at least for local files
[17:57] <jken146> jtran: if you have a separate /home partition and you just format the / partition and install karmic on that, and tell it in the installer which partition is /home (but don't format /home) then all your personal files and setups will be preserved.
[17:58] <Promethes> ive updated jaunty to karmic and now i see 1214 manually installed deb packages in synaptic (there are core packages like linux-image-generic-xxxx). What is going on with that? Anyone?
[17:58] <xcode> hello i have a problem
[17:58] <xcode> can somebody please help me
[17:58] <hdon> hi all. i don't know if a recent update caused this, but i can no longer reorganize my vdesktops by dragging around the little squares on my pager! (my pager is the default, Workspace Switcher 2.26.0)
[17:58] <zChris> xcode: ask the question and see if someone knows
[17:58] <Pilif12p> xcode: ask
[17:59] <sebsebseb> Wow  1727  nicks,  Karmic did that!  about 1500 when I was last here just over a week ago
[17:59] <epinky> xcode: just ask
[17:59] <Belgarion> anybody know what the procedure is to debug display driver issues?
[17:59] <sebsebseb> Arsin: Did you message me by mistake?
[17:59] <Belgarion> pretty please?
[17:59] <zedster> billybigrigger: did you try vlc?
[17:59] <billybigrigger> yes
[17:59] <alazyworkaholic> Milaz: I'm looking up apt-cache-ng. I've heard of rsync (I think that's its name) maybe that could keep /var/apt/cache synced?
[17:59] <alazyworkaholic> Zedster: What do you mean?
[17:59] <alazyworkaholic> thedude42: what's an ipcop box? I don't have a spare machine, but is this something I could run on my regular desktop?
[17:59] <alazyworkaholic> jken146: would that require me to download just about everything in the repos though? Do you know where I can find out how to do that?
[17:59] <FloodBot2> alazyworkaholic: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:59] <billybigrigger> i've been trying throughout the whole development cycle of karmic, this vx1000 doesn't want to work
[18:00] <billybigrigger> but it worked in 9.04
[18:00] <xcode> i have problem with the multimedia buttons when i press the volume up or down it freezes my computer and i have to restart and i have an hp dv3625ee model and i dont know wat to do i searched online for a solution i couldnt get anywhere
[18:00] <poseidon> How do I find out what sound card/chipset I have?
[18:00] <xcode> ?
[18:00] <Belgarion> alazyworkaholic: you should also check out unison
[18:00] <billybigrigger> i think it has something to do with the gspca driver built into the kernel
[18:00] <LjL> poseidon: sudo lshw -C sound
[18:00] <epinky> ls
[18:00] <Arsin> sebsebseb: You just seem to fix a lot of peoples problems I thought you might know how to fix mine
[18:00] <zedster> billybigrigger: you tried this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1275793
[18:00] <thrope> is there any where I can read about why ubuntu uses this non-standard dist-packages instead of site-pacakges for python in recent versions
[18:00] <milaz> alazyworkaholic: rsyncing them on local machines is not a very good idea.
[18:00] <epinky> poseidon: lspci -vv
[18:00] <bohne> hi, using ubuntu 9.10 i want access windows 7 shares, but theres always an error
[18:00] <jken146> alazyworkaholic: you'd have to download new versions of every package you have installed (the versions are all different in karmic from jaunty)
[18:00] <XVampireX> Can anyone please help me? :-/
[18:00] <thrope> what is the point of it - just seems to break a lot of stuff for the sake of it
[18:00] <Kagee> What are the other servers i can use if keyserver.ubuntu.com does not respond?
[18:01] <kebomix> anyone had luck to make ATI Radeon 3650 work on Ubuntu 9.10 karmic ?
[18:01] <XVampireX> I actually have the same problem as bohne
[18:01] <grawity> Kagee: Use pool.sks-keyservers.net
[18:01] <zedster> bohne: does it ask for a password?
[18:01] <Shockrates> does ubuntu have gui for more things compared to other distros using gnome?
[18:01] <bohne> zedster: yes and it is accepted
[18:01] <billybigrigger> zedster, that is for 9.04, gspca is now built into the kernel
[18:01] <XVampireX> "Failed to retrieve share list from server"
[18:01] <XVampireX> That's what I'm getting
[18:01] <fornix> why is empathy better than pidgin. I would like to remove empathy completely and use pidgin alone
[18:01] <Cheery> I thought there's package for zsnes is karmic
[18:01] <zedster> bohne: hmm... same issue here
[18:01] <jken146> poseidon: lspci -v
[18:01] <poseidon> epinky, also how do I find out what version of pulseaudo/alsa I'm using (i have 9.10)
[18:01] <Cheery> anyone knows where to find that one?
[18:02] <bohne> XVampireX: exactly the same here
[18:02] <XVampireX> :-/
[18:02] <Promethes> ive updated jaunty to karmic and now i see 1214 manually installed deb packages in synaptic (there are core packages like linux-image-generic-xxxx). What is going on with that? Anyone?
[18:02] <xcode> hello does anyone know how to fix  my problem
[18:02] <milaz> fornix: who is saying it is better? it is disastrous!
[18:02] <zedster> bohne: did you by any chance turn one wmp12 web streaming?
[18:02] <alazyworkaholic> jken146: If I put packages I have from 9.04 on apt-on-cd then install them on 9.10, won't the machine only have to download updates to them?
[18:02] <fornix> milaz, why is it the default in ubuntu then?
[18:02] <Kagee> grawity: quick, and thanks
[18:02] <kebomix> hello , i got kernel panic after installing ati radeon catalyst 9.10 , any solution  ?
[18:02] <jken146> Promethes: that sounds normal
[18:02] <XVampireX> I'm actually struggling with samba for quite some time, that's one of the most disgusting problems i've had in linux
[18:02] <RobLikesBrunch> Is there anyway I can automatically authenticate a hard drive on start-up?
[18:02] <Jibual> does anyone know how i can filter certain error messages from ever getting logged to maillog?
[18:03] <milaz> fornix: I think they made a big mistake with it
[18:03] <bohne> zedster: what's that?;)
[18:03] <CVirus> (rhythmbox:20959): CRITICAL **: atk_object_set_name: assertion `name != NULL' failedafter upgrading to karmic koala .. rhythmbox won't start with this error
[18:03] <Assid> err whens the next release?
[18:03] <CVirus> oops
[18:03] <leaf-sheep> fornix: http://live.gnome.org/Empathy -- They chose Empathy to make it more integrated with Gnome -- Same as Evolution.
[18:03] <milaz> fornix: but seriously, they preferred architectural opportunities over user experience
[18:03] <sebsebseb> Arsin: Pretty  basic problems usaully,  my  hardware is standard enough  plus a desktop, to not get mouse issues.  As for the new GDM....
[18:03] <amikrop> if I sudo mount then I cannot right click and unmount
[18:03] <amikrop> any solution?
[18:03] <jken146> alazyworkaholic: No.  An update is a new version of the package.  Each time you update something, you download a completely new package.
[18:03] <sebsebseb> !lucid |  Assid
[18:03] <amikrop> how to fake "mount" I am root
[18:03] <CVirus> after upgrading to karmic koala .. rhythmbox won't start with this error  (rhythmbox:20959): CRITICAL **: atk_object_set_name: assertion `name != NULL' failed
[18:03] <mourya_> u can
[18:03] <amikrop> or something like that
[18:03] <zedster> bohne: no, I really need to know, that was when mine went nutz, I turned it on so I could get my music at the office :-)
[18:03] <milaz> fornix: maybe they expect Empathy will become mature very soon
[18:04] <Assid> oh.. i miss the current release party
[18:04] <bohne> XVampireX: ubuntu 9.10 is guest on a virtualbox hosted by win7
[18:04] <sebsebseb> Assid: So did I, I was away in Spain and didn't have Internet access.
[18:04] <hskr> I need help with my disk space. When ever I try to get on the web or anything, a little mesage pops up in the corner and syas something like 'root disk space %100' how do I clear it?
[18:04] <XVampireX> Here I'm trying to access a windows xp share (My brothers computer)
[18:04] <sebsebseb> Assid: you meant the channel?
[18:04] <amikrop> or, how to mount as user?
[18:04] <fornix> milaz, ooh. its gnome im client
[18:04] <epinky> poseidon: cat /proc/asound/version
[18:04] <Tesssa> well the amount of bugs in 9.10 and the help could turn one to win7
[18:04] <Assid> yeah im normally in every release party
[18:04] <gh0zt_> anyone know of an application similar to adobe illustrator that's specific to linux?
[18:05] <Tesssa> ugh the thought
[18:05] <bohne> XVampireX: ah ok, so its not a win 7 special error
[18:05] <XVampireX> bohne, there's a whole thread about it on ubuntuforums
[18:05] <jken146> gh0zt_: what does illustrator do?
[18:05] <mourya_> sebsebseb chk the message
[18:05] <trism> gh0zt_: Inkscape is similar (although not as advanced), not specific to linux though
[18:05] <kebomix> aaaaaaa,   i hate ATI :S :S ,  i spent 2day trying to get their card working under ubuntu karmic , their catalyst 9.10 cause kernel panic to my system , anyone got it working ?
[18:05] <XVampireX> bohne, everyone is so pissed about this bug
[18:05] <Belgarion> :(
[18:05] <angelo_> ciao
[18:05] <bohne> zedster: wmp = winamp somthing?
[18:05] <gh0zt_> trism: thanks i'll check that out
[18:05] <Pilif12p> angelo_: ciao
[18:05] <zedster> bohne: windows media player
[18:05] <hskr> My computer says that my root folder is compleatly full, though there is nothing in it. How do I fix this?
[18:06] <Cheery> ah. there's no x86-64 -version of zsnes in karmic
[18:06] <Cheery> anyone knows how to get one?
[18:06] <sebsebseb> mourya_: I don't know, and  your better off asking your question to the whole channel, rather than to just one person in pm.
[18:06] <Promethes> jken146: also i have tzdata package in package list that should be automaticly removed, but when i try to remove it then whole system need to be removed too
[18:06] <milaz> bye all!
[18:06] <joaopinto> !sound
[18:06] <ecolitan> what's the best project management software for ubuntu?
[18:06] <jken146> gh0zt_: inkscape is vector graphics.  gimp is raster.  there are others too
[18:06] <XVampireX> bohne, windows media player
[18:06] <blue0488> how can I get ubuntu 10 on a raid 1 I have the right disk but it can't get the grub loader to install
[18:06] <sebsebseb> !pm >  mourya_
[18:06] <IdleOne> blue0488: there is no ubuntu 10
[18:06] <XVampireX> bohne, I don't know how that has to do with anything though....
[18:06] <jken146> Promethes: why do you want to remove tzdata?
[18:06] <gh0zt_> jken146: i'm looking for the best vector i can get so i can move completely away from windows
[18:06] <merkoth> hskr: It happened the same to my home folder
[18:07] <blue0488> ubuntu 9.10
[18:07] <twisted-ferrett> hello can anyone help me with setting a desktop[ image
[18:07] <ZoeyMarie> Does anyone know how I would "define the GCC and LD of the target machine" or "define the compiler flags CFLAGS" in the config.mk of this driver file I'm trying to install? (for my wireless adapter that stopped working with the new kernel). My little newb brain is about to explode with these directions. :(
[18:07] <jibadeeha> is there a way to make ubuntu switch cpu scaling to performance when on power and on demand when on battery
[18:07] <n8tuser> blue0488-> separate /boot
[18:07] <hskr> I need help with my root folder
[18:07] <merkoth> twisted-ferrett: right click your desktop and select change desktop background
[18:07] <hydester> hi.  i upgrade from jaunty to karmic on an AMD64 machine.  firefox 3.5 now hogs the CPU and basically is unusable.  i tried firefox 3.6 and it seems to work fine.  i tried 3.5 both from the repos and mozilla directly, both with cpu issues.  any ideas how to fix 3.5?
[18:07] <Spirits-Sight> I want to make sure that I can install mythbuntu along side windows like I was informed can be done with normal Ubuntu is that correct I don't want gf to be pissed because I was surprised when installing finished
[18:07] <UbuntuUser> can i mount alternate cd using acetoneiso and update my ubuntu somehow? please give me direction what to do after getting alternate cd
[18:07] <bderrly> has anyone else had their raid array break after the upgrade to karmic? i cannot get my raid array to function at all
[18:07] <Promethes> jken146: i dont want to do it but is in list of packages that need to be automaticly removed in synaptic
[18:07] <twisted-ferrett> thanks merkoth i try that but any image i click wont load and it constantly stays black in the window
[18:08] <hdon> can anyone tell me why i can't reorganize my windows with Desktop Switcher applet anymore?
[18:08] <joaopinto> Spirits-Sight, yes, just make sure you dont select to use the entire disk, firs you will need to shrink your windows partition
[18:08] <c3l_> how do I acces "  gphoto2://[usb:001,008]/  " in a terminal?
[18:08] <grawity> c3l_: You cannot?
[18:08] <Cobalt> Hi, can someone tell me what the legacy notification package is called if you don't want the new notification system that appeared in Jaunty? And is there a way to customize that?
[18:08] <jken146> Promethes: I don;t know why that would be.  You can set it to manually installed
[18:08] <grawity> c3l_: Actually, try gvfs-mount
[18:08] <blue0488> how can I get ubuntu 9.10 on a raid 1 I have the right disk but it can't get the grub loader to install I have it set up /boot 20gb swap 20gb and / 960gb and it doesn't gork
[18:08] <trism> UbuntuUser: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading#Upgrading%20Using%20the%20Alternate%20CD/DVD
[18:08] <blue0488> work*
[18:08] <epinky> XVampireX: http://www.1stbyte.com/2009/05/31/join-windows-7-to-samba-pdc/
[18:08] <natschil> how can I install grub2 onto /dev/sda where /dev/sd6 is /boot and /dev/sda8 is / ?
[18:08] <grawity> c3l_: Or even check if it's already mounted inside ~/.gvfs/
[18:08] <Spirits-Sight> joaopinto: the install will do that for me when I tell it install along side ???
[18:09] <grawity> c3l_: But I doubt.
[18:09] <c3l_> grawity, well I can view it in the stupid file browser, its showing the wrong paths then?
[18:09] <Tesssa> help again why after a upgrade from xubuntu 9.04 to 9.10 and after a restart does it kee returning me the the login window my login name and password are correct no one answers in xubuntu
[18:09] <merkoth> twisted-ferrett: did it use to work? did you just install ubuntu?
[18:09] <bderrly> Cobalt: libnotify?
[18:09] <R0b0t1> Hello, sorry to ask again, but how do I resume a dist upgrade? apt-get dist-upgrade?
[18:09] <n8tuser> blue0488-> separate /boot  as separate partition and not part of raid.....am not sure if ubuntu can boot off of a raid yet
[18:09] <Cobalt> bderrly: Er, and to customize the new stuff?
[18:09] <twisted-ferrett> it has never worked for me on 9.10 but 9.04 used too
[18:09] <grawity> c3l_: See, Nautilus has a few libraries of _its own_ - it's integrated with GPhoto and such things.
[18:09] <bderrly> Cobalt: i'm not sure what the new stuff is
[18:09] <jken146> R0b0t1: depends on how far you got the first time, but in general yes
[18:09] <bderrly> my raid is busted which is my homedir so i can't use X at the moment
[18:09] <merkoth> twisted-ferrett: maybe something wrong happened in the update process
[18:10] <n8tuser> Tesssa-> try to test your log on in a console or terminal.. ctrl+alt+f1 to f6
[18:10] <erana> for he desktop witcher applet : rm -rf ~/.gnome*
[18:10] <blue0488> I got it to work with 9.04
[18:10] <grawity> c3l_: The path is correct, it just won't work outside Nautilus. Have you tried gvfs-mount like I asked?
[18:10] <n8tuser> !who
[18:10] <hskr> Can someone help me with my root space disk?
[18:10] <merkoth> twisted-ferrett: try reinstalling the ubuntu-artwork package from synaptic
[18:10] <bala> hi anyone help me i've karmic koala
[18:10] <twisted-ferrett> i have installed it about 6 times now from disk
[18:10] <XVampireX> bohne, http://img249.imageshack.us/i/screenshotdn.png/
[18:10] <twisted-ferrett> thanks i will try that now
[18:10] <grawity> c3l_: gvfs-mount gphoto2://blahblah/ ; cd ~/gvfs ; ls
[18:10] <c3l_> grawity, oh.. well thats good in one way. no how do I mount it? fsdisk -l doesnt show it
[18:10] <XVampireX> That's what I see :-/
[18:10] <R0b0t1> jken146: Hmm, that's not working... Anything else you might suggest?
[18:10] <c3l_> grawity, oh like that, ty
[18:10] <joaopinto> Spirits-Sight, is up to you to select was the install will do, it will not guess :)
[18:10] <grawity> c3l_: IT IS A VIRTUAL FILESYSTEM, not a real one. That's why it has gphoto2:// before it.
[18:11] <merkoth> twisted-ferrett: maybe you burned a corrupt image... it's very strange
[18:11] <p1und3r> has anyone been able to customize their login screen again in 9.10?
[18:11] <R0b0t1> jken146: Says something about failing to process a pakcage, then exits.
[18:11] <lmartin92> in case anyone tries to install kubuntu onto fake raid with lvm, the way one does this (assuming all partitions and vg's are already created) is chroot /target /bin/bash and then apt-get install lvm2 dmraid, then copy files from /boot to your boot directory (if you're using 2 linux distros)
[18:11] <Dink> hskr, try System/Administration/Computer Janitor
[18:11] <grawity> c3l_: er, cd ~/.gvfs ; not ~/gvfs
[18:11] <bala> my screen resolution problem help me
[18:11] <grawity> c3l_: Typo.
[18:11] <ripthejacker> some 1 help i need to set up a pppoe connection
[18:11] <sebsebseb> p1und3r: you can't
[18:11] <twisted-ferrett> i thought that but each install was from a fresh download from ubuntu site
[18:11] <natschil> upgrading from jaunty screwed up my grub :( so any suggestions would be great.
[18:11] <ripthejacker> i req a .deb of rp-pppoe
[18:11] <sebsebseb> p1und3r: well colours and icons,  and that's it
[18:11] <Tesssa> once it does that i cant gewt into anything else had to reinstall 9/04
[18:11] <Spirits-Sight> joaopinto: just making sure :-)
[18:11] <c3l_> grawity, i see, well thanks =)
[18:11] <p1und3r> sebsebseb: hmmm where can I change colors and icons?
[18:11] <n8tuser> blue0488-> see what lmartin92 just posted
[18:12] <sebsebseb> p1und3r: those nice GDM themes from before,  nope you can't change those with the new GDM 2.   as for how to change the colour or icons, very basic customizing,  I am not sure of the details,  might have to edit source code even to do it
[18:12] <olivier2> salut la foule !
[18:12] <mourya_> Anyone who can help me activate eth0 manually
[18:12] <merkoth> anyone having disk space errors? my karmic install says that my home is taking 17 gb, but when I check how mush does each folder take, the numbers don't add
[18:12] <n8tuser> mourya_-> tried ifup eth0  as root yet?
[18:12] <IdleOne> !fr | olivier2
[18:12] <p1und3r> sebsebseb: are there are plans to ever implement customized themes with GDM2? or is it just not gunna happen
[18:13] <Zxcvb> is it a bad idea to upgrade from jaunty to karmic?
[18:13] <joacodr> I want to share folders between mac and ubuntu
[18:13] <n8tuser> Zxcvb-> i suggest a fresh install instead of an upgrade
[18:13] <Zxcvb> n8tuser: is it safe to keep /home, at least?
[18:13] <mourya_> @n86user Ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0
[18:13] <olivier2> IdleOne, oh sorry, this is the default channel when I connect from my ubuntu :) and this is french selected everywhere
[18:13] <DarkKnight> how can i disable login for some user? (postgres)
[18:13] <R0b0t1> How would I resume a distribution upgrade? apt-get dist-upgrade seems to not work, I don't know why, although my computer seems to think it's 9.10 already :)
[18:13] <grawity> DarkKnight: sudo passwd -l postgres
[18:13] <erana> joacodr: try mount -t hfs /dev/sdX /mnt
[18:13] <n8tuser> Zxcvb-> yes its a recommended idea to have the /home separate for this kind of moves..
[18:13] <bderrly> R0b0t1: apt-get -f install
[18:14] <grawity> R0b0t1: Any error messages?
[18:14] <DarkKnight> grawity: thx
[18:14] <c3l_> grawity, i now assume it was stupid even trying to write to this dir? :)
[18:14] <jetienne> q. how to boot ubuntu from a usb stick ?
[18:14] <grawity> c3l_: Which one?
[18:14] <Zxcvb> n8tuser: ok, because I heard that keeping /home could cause problems due to older config files with newer versions of software
[18:14] <R0b0t1> grawity: Failing to install a package, but that's it.
[18:14] <bderrly> jetienne: search google, there are a million pages on that
[18:14] <c3l_> grawity, the virtual fs, the iphone
[18:14] <n8tuser> jetienne-> your mobo has to support booting off of a usb
[18:14] <CriminalMacabre> hello
[18:14] <jibadeeha> just found /etc/init.d/ondemand that is setting the cpu governer to ondemand after 60 seconds so that explains it
[18:14] <DarK``_> does anyone know an image viewer which can show multiple .svg and .sgvz files at once?
[18:14] <trism> p1und3r: actually, the new gdm has it's own appearance manaager, you can access it with gksudo -u gdm dbus-launch gnome-appearance-properties
[18:14] <Zxcvb> n8tuser: but wiping /home and manually reloading desired data is a royal pain
[18:14] <R0b0t1> bderrly: Error processing "transmission-daemon", then it exits.
[18:14] <grawity> c3l_: Since it's handled by gphoto2, I doubt it'll support any kind of write operation...
[18:14] <joacodr> How to share folders between ubuntu and mac?
[18:14] <D7> Can I use this mail/messages notification icon to tell me when I get new gmail?
[18:14] <jetienne> n8tuser: how to put it on usb
[18:14] <lianimator1> has someone tried sliding the sound output balance while playing a vdo?? the sound cracks up if the bar is at either end
[18:15] <stevecoh1> Aargh!.  Using Ubuntu 9.04.  I had previously downloaded firefox 3.5 (Shiretoko).  This morning an update for Firefox came into my box and I accepted it only to find it doesn't work.  Invoking it brings up a tiny window with nothing in it.  The title of the Window is Firefox 3.5.
[18:15] <n8tuser> Zxcvb-> correct. so keep a copy of the old /home .. your good stuff
[18:15] <Valentina> I have problem getting a user cron job to work. Why isn't it working creating a /etc/cron.allow file and putting my username in it, then run crontab -e and set a cron tab? I'm using Ubuntu 9.10.
[18:15] <erana> jetienne: try mounting the usb stick drive in the ubuntu installer
[18:15] <Promethes> jken146: so if i mark all of these "manually" installed packages as installed automatically then everything will be ok?
[18:15] <Arsin> Hey my mouse doesn't work after login, any help? I tried two mice and it has the same result every time. Tried unplugging and putting it back, which does nothing.
[18:15] <trism> p1und3r: let's you change the wallpaper, gtk theme, etc
[18:15] <c3l_> grawity, though it is jailbroken, i can ssh into it. problem is though that I want to add images, and I dont know where the img folder is located, the structure is stupid :>
[18:15] <mourya_> @n8tuser ignoring unknown interfaces eth0=eth0
[18:15] <Zxcvb> n8tuser: so old config files in /home won't hurt anything?
[18:15] <CriminalMacabre> I have an issue with the mozilla addon installer
[18:15] <n8tuser> jetienne-> there are tutorials on this, kindly do some goggling to assist you
[18:15] <bderrly> R0b0t1: any more details than that?
[18:15] <CriminalMacabre> it gimes me error 228
[18:15] <meTTy> hey all! i want to acess to my ubuntu server via remote controll from my netbook(ubuntu 9.04) is there any software which i can use?
[18:15] <p1und3r> trism: thanks im gunna try that up now :D
[18:15] <merkoth> meTTy: ssh?
[18:15] <joaopinto> Valentina, it doesk work, and you dont need to change /etc/cron.allow, cron is allowed by default, if it doesn't worx as expect then you have an error at the scripting level
[18:15] <blue0488> I want to install ubuntu 9.10 to a hard ware raid 1
[18:15] <bderrly> meTTy: either ssh or vnc
[18:15] <russss> hi, I'm trying to troubleshoot a pulseaudio problem (the problem being it's not working) after upgrading jaunty to karmic. Any takers?
[18:15] <n8tuser> Zxcvb-> it should not.. perhaps some minor conflicts, but you can easily resolve it
[18:16] <R0b0t1> bderrly: Not really, that's all it says. It does list a fuckton of packages I could remove with autoremove, however.
[18:16] <Zxcvb> n8tuser: so not like the bad old 2.0.3x days
[18:16] <joaopinto> russss, how do you know it's related to pulseaudio ? what does not work ?
[18:16] <n8tuser> mourya_-> have an entry of eth0 on your /etc/network/interfaces file
[18:16] <grawity> c3l_: If you can ssh, then... mount it using sshfs, and use the magic of 'find' to see where does it hide all the porn^H^H^H^Hpictures.
[18:16] <meTTy> merkoth, bderrly , k thx i will have a look at that, will i have to install ssh on my netbook as well?
[18:16] <stevecoh1> So what is up with this Ubuntu Firefox upgrade?  How do I fix the mess?
[18:16] <a> can someone help me please! My HD is recognized in blkid as hfsplus, but I thought it was ntfs! how do I know for sure what fs it has?
[18:16] <merkoth> meTTy: shuld be installed by default
[18:16] <russss> joaopinto: killing pulseaudio and using aplay as root works fine. Pulseaudio just...doesn't work.
[18:16] <bderrly> meTTy: you likely have an ssh client installed on the netbook, but if not you'll have to install one
[18:16] <n8tuser> Zxcvb-> i dont know for sure, try it and help out the community if you discover anything that makes it faulty
[18:16] <nesw> I seem to be hitting the Installer hangs at 80% on "Configuring apt"  bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/445385 - any ideas how i can proceed with install? is it safe to hit "skip" at this point?
[18:16] <Valentina> joaopinto: The cron.allow file was empty? I didn't even find it. Can I remove the file completely from /etc/cron.allow?
[18:16] <rictec> hi people
[18:17] <VCoolio> is there a way to let add-apt-repository use another keyserver instead of the always-timing-out default?
[18:17] <stevecoh1> I had a working browser, now I don't.
[18:17] <joaopinto> Valentina, you can
[18:17] <merkoth> nesw: likely to be hung checking repos
[18:17] <dalton2345> seems to me lots of people having problem with karmic
[18:17] <c3l_> grawity, ah smart. hahah no videos for porn..!
[18:17] <rictec> anyone here can help me with vdpau?
[18:17] <bderrly> R0b0t1: you can try removing that package for now with 'apt-get remove' or 'dpkg --remove' (jot down the name so you remember later) and see if processing with 'apt-get -f install' will continue
[18:17] <n8tuser> dalton2345-> its common for new releases
[18:17] <merkoth> nesw: you can skip it, and later activate the repost by hand
[18:17] <bderrly> R0b0t1: then you can install that package again later
[18:17] <odder> does anybody know how to disable icons in the apps menu?
[18:17] <trism> p1und3r: it does seem to add an icon to your task tray for universal access properties, but you can turn it off again in System/Preferences/Keyboard, on the Accessibility tab
[18:17] <shashi_irc> I have just installed 9.10 64-bit. After login, if i look into my home directory, i can see the directories like Documents, Downloads, Music, etc. These directories pictures are embedded with some pictures. If i create a directory, how can i embed a picture like Downloads, Documents, Music, etc... ?
[18:17] <Suhail> anyone here know how to install mysql from source on ubuntu, trying to install the latest version because i don't see a package for it (5.1.40)?
[18:17] <dalton2345> n8tuser: its scaring me lol
[18:17] <joaopinto> russss, uname -a
[18:17] <erana> VCoolie: try vi /etc/apt.sources
[18:18] <russss> Linux russ-desktop 2.6.31-14-generic #48-Ubuntu SMP Fri Oct 16 14:04:26 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
[18:18] <Valentina> joaopinto: I wrote this using crontab -e: 15 * * * * /home/username/path-to-script.sh Willl that be right?
[18:18] <joaopinto> ok
[18:18] <p1und3r> trism: lol thanks that just happened :D
[18:18] <nesw> merkoth: ok thanks
[18:18] <a> help!!!
[18:18] <stevecoh1> Can anyone see my posts?
[18:18] <n8tuser> Suhail-> kindly do a google for tutorials on those...
[18:18] <bderrly> Suhail: aptitude install mysql-server-5.1
[18:18] <IdleOne> dalton2345: usually people without issues don't complain. like watching the news all you here about is the bad stuff happening
[18:18] <joaopinto> russss, you have checked the mixer settings right ?
[18:18] <rictec> simple question how can i check if vdpau is enalbled?
[18:18] <hdon> how can i rotate my display 90 degrees?
[18:18] <epinky> stevecoh1: yep
[18:18] <trism> p1und3r: and you need to reboot before you can see the new theme
[18:18] <Suhail> bderrly: n8tuser: LATEST version
[18:18] <n8tuser> hdon look into xrandr
[18:18] <russss> joaopinto: yep. It's a bit annoying that the sound test button has gone from the sound preferences in this release.
[18:18] <dalton2345> IdleOne: yes, true
[18:18] <hdon> n8tuser: ok, i'll do that
[18:18] <VCoolio> erana: I'm certainly not going to use vi and I know how to add repos, but it would be convenient to do it in one command but the keyserver always times out as usual
[18:18] <n8tuser> Suhail-> correct, please google for it
[18:18] <Suhail> bderrly: are you sure that's the latest stable vresion?
[18:19] <stevecoh1> that's good.  Now can anyone tell me how to fix the mess that Ubuntu upgrade did to my Firefox?
[18:19] <Suhail> n8tuser: Why do you assume that I haven't already?
[18:19] <p1und3r> trism: it appears that I'm missing HumanLoginTheme, that one i guess came with 9.10?
[18:19] <joaopinto> russss, file a bug report about it
[18:19] <CVirus> after upgrading to karmic koala .. rhythmbox won't start with this error: (rhythmbox:20959): CRITICAL **: atk_object_set_name: assertion `name != NULL' failed
[18:19] <mourya_> @n8tuser nope there is no input abt eth0
[18:19] <bderrly> Suhail: no i'm not, but it is the latest version in the repo...do you absolutely have to have the latest release?
[18:19] <mourya_> just auto lo
[18:19] <Valentina> joaopinto: Using my username instead of "username" ofcourse.
[18:19] <Suhail> bderrly: Yes I do
[18:19] <mourya_> iface lo inet loopback
[18:19] <n8tuser> Suhail-> am not here to argue with you, but the way you post your question is as if you have not done so
[18:19] <Suhail> bderrly: i am using intrepid
[18:19] <quidnunc> How do I run a command under sudo over ssh and pipe the output back to my local machine?
[18:19] <a> why do I have so many yellow texts?
[18:19] <merkoth> stevecoh1: did you try deleting .firefox from your home dir?
[18:19] <joaopinto> russss, well, you could disable pulseaudio, if we can't figure what's wron
[18:19] <joaopinto> wrong
[18:19] <sebsebseb> p1und3r: I don't know,  for that very reason though, I don't like GDM 2
[18:20] <JPSman> !isitoutyet?
[18:20] <stevecoh1> And lose all my settings?
[18:20] <bderrly> Suhail: mysql-server-5.1 == 5.1.37
[18:20] <n8tuser> mourya_-> man interfaces for a sample entry.. or google for one please
[18:20] <Suhail> n8tuser: I don't know where you got that from
[18:20] <Valentina> joaopinto: Shall I use sudo crontab -e or just crontab -e to set a cron job as user only?
[18:20] <a> !text
[18:20] <joaopinto> Valentina, crontab -e
[18:20] <trism> p1und3r: not sure
[18:20] <russss> joaopinto: yeah ok. I'll probably keep digging till I find the problem first, but I was just hoping this was a known issue. Pulseaudio doesn't like me but I'd like to try and solve it rather than just uninstalling it.
[18:20] <p1und3r> sebsebseb: bummers... it does seem faster
[18:20] <Valentina> joaopinto: Ok, thanks.
[18:20] <bderrly> Suhail: you can probably download the source tarball, untar it and do the normal "./configure; make; make install" routine, but i don't know why it is imperitive you have the absolute latest version
[18:20] <Suhail> bderrly: that'll do, when i do that it says it can't find that package
[18:20] <quidnunc> a: In your irc client?
[18:20] <LongBeach> hey
[18:20] <leaf-sheep> Because your nickname contains a single character
[18:20] <hdon> xrandr seems to have a problem :( http://paste.debian.net/50397
[18:20] <Suhail> bderrly: bug fixes
[18:20] <noren> i needed help in setting up obsidian file server
[18:20] <LongBeach> is there a Ubuntu virtual machine available ?
[18:21] <merkoth> russss: I had problems with audio, for some reason alsa decided to mute all my channels
[18:21] <leaf-sheep> a2: Do this --> /nick AngryShark
[18:21] <leaf-sheep> a2: See above ^^
[18:21] <Suhail> bderrly: do i need to add some location to my source list?
[18:21] <bderrly> Suhail: you can also search the web for debian/ubuntu packages for that specific version
[18:21] <LongBeach> is there a Ubuntu virtual machine available ?
[18:21] <epinky> noren: obsidian?
[18:21] <n8tuser> LongBeach-> look into vzopen
[18:21] <n8tuser> or vmware
[18:22] <hdon> oh, i need to enable it
[18:22] <merkoth> LongBeach: noren: virtualbox is good too
[18:22] <shashi_irc> I have just installed 9.10 64-bit. After login, if i look into my home directory, i can see the directories like Documents, Downloads, Music, etc. These directories pictures are embedded with some pictures. If i create a directory, how can i embed a picture like Downloads, Documents, Music, etc... ?
[18:22] <LongBeach> i want a Ubuntu VM that runs on VMware
[18:22] <joaopinto> russss, there have been some issues reported with sound in general for Karmic, but I am not aware of anything as your case
[18:22] <merkoth> shashi_irc: right click the icon, properties, maybe you can change it
[18:22] <n8tuser> LongBeach-> oh yeah it may be named virtualbox. so many out there, i cant remember all the names
[18:22] <Suhail> bderrly: I think i am a bit new to understanding how to find a package and then install it on a now slightly older version of ubuntu
[18:22] <jibadeeha> sharperguy, set an emblem through properties
[18:22] <R0b0t1`srvr> bderrly: Well, apt-get -f install doesn't fail and says it completes, but apt-get dist-upgrade doesn't do anything.
[18:23] <R0b0t1`srvr> Just exits
[18:23] <R0b0t1`srvr> saying complete
[18:23] <Suhail> bderrly: it seems like oyu have to do something special to take packages if your version of ubuntu is a bit older?
[18:23] <bderrly> Suhail: is there a specific bug fix you have to have in the latest version?
[18:23] <n8tuser> LongBeach-> a regular install iso can be used to run in a virtual machine
[18:23] <LongBeach> http://isv-image.ubuntu.com/vmware/
[18:23] <LongBeach> hmm
[18:23] <LongBeach> not the latest :(
[18:23] <odder> I am asking the question for like a third time today: does anybody have any idea how do I disable icons in the applications menu?
[18:23] <shashi_irc> The embed picture is appearing on the top , but not in the middle
[18:23] <bderrly> R0b0t1`srvr: if there are no upgrades needed then dist-upgrade won't do anything
[18:23] <russss> joaopinto: yeah, I have a slightly exotic sound card but that hasn't really been the root cause of my previous problems. It just seems I'm really unlucky with pulseaudio and this machine has been dist-upgraded about 4 times.
[18:23] <merkoth> odder: maybe no one knows
[18:23] <n8tuser> odder perhaps no one here knows the answer yet, so be patient?
[18:23] <stevecoh1> OK, renaming my ~/.mozilla/firefox-3.5 directory did not help matters.  Firefox-3.5 is still broken.
[18:23] <russss> I *want* to like pulseaudio, but it doesn't want to like me
[18:23] <R0b0t1`srvr> bderrly: Then, apparently, my ubuntu is upgraded, but without a working GUI.
[18:24] <Valentina> jibadeeha: Do I have to somewhat restart cron to let it start running my cron job or will it work automatically after I have saved the crontab file?
[18:24] <bderrly> no one else has experienced RAID problems after the upgrade to karmic?
[18:24] <joaopinto> russss, :)
[18:24] <grawity> odder: In IRC, if nobody knows the answer, then nobody will reply. Get used to it... maybe #gnome will know
[18:24] <jibadeeha> shashi_irc, is that really important
[18:24] <Suhail> bderrly: um, perhaps it's the unknown that scares me, I know in 5.1.28 there definitely is so I want to just resolve any other problems there maybe
[18:24] <Valentina> jibadeeha: Sorry, wrong person.
[18:24] <jibadeeha> Valentina, ??
[18:24] <bazhang> odder, you mean in nautilus?
[18:24] <jibadeeha> lol
[18:24] <odder> n8tuser: I am patient, have waited several hours before re-asking
[18:24] <arand> LongBeach: canonical doesn't supply any, there are stuff from unofficial sources I think, but google knows more than me...
[18:24] <stevecoh1> Why would the update distributed by Ubuntu this morning break my browser?
[18:24] <Valentina> jibadeeha: ;)
[18:24] <Arsin> I can't move my mouse what is going on. This is making Ubuntu useless now
[18:24] <grawity> bazhang: No, he means the applications menu.
[18:24] <carlee> russs: pulseaudio is still extremely buggy, people who have problems are advised to simply remove it and use alsa.
[18:24] <NetLarIrvine> Wireless does not seem to work in 9.10 does it?
[18:24] <merkoth> stevecoh1: because it was a firefox update
[18:24] <Cyber-Dogg> which ssh server do you recommend?
[18:24] <grawity> bazhang: You know, gnome-panel.
[18:24] <Cyber-Dogg> openSSh?
[18:24] <grawity> Cyber-Dogg: OpenSSH, of course.
[18:24] <bderrly> Cyber-Dogg: yes
[18:25] <odder> bazhang: I mean the application menu (gnome-main menu), it has been changed in gnome 2.28 afaik
[18:25] <Valentina> joaopinto: Do I have to restart cron or will it work only exiting and saving the crontab file?
[18:25] <bazhang> grawity, ah sorry
[18:25] <arand> stevecoh1: in what way?
[18:25] <Paulo39> hi, why does avidemux cant open ogv files?
[18:25] <stevecoh1> and how do I find out how to fix it?
[18:25] <merkoth> stevecoh1: try reinstalling firefox
[18:25] <bazhang> odder, let me try
[18:25] <NetLarIrvine> Worked fine in 9.04, not in 9.10
[18:25] <noren_> epinky, yes i cant get it to wirk any leads would be helpful
[18:25] <stevecoh1> Geez.
[18:25] <noren_> !server
[18:25] <n8tuser> NetLarIrvine-> make sure your driver is supported and loaded
[18:25] <grawity> Cyber-Dogg: The package is named 'openssh-server
[18:25] <bderrly> Suhail: unless you know for certain there is a major security fix in the latest version that directly affects 5.1.37 then i think you're "safe"
[18:25] <epinky> noten_: amarok involved?
[18:25] <epinky> noren_: amarok involved?
[18:25] <noren_> anyone here using obsidian fserver
[18:25] <Suhail> bderrly: *sigh* okay how do I install 5.1.37 :P
[18:25] <merkoth> stevecoh1: you said you were using a pre-release version right?
[18:26] <NetLarIrvine> n8tuser: where do i load the driver?
[18:26] <noren_> epinky, no its an irc fserver
[18:26] <joaopinto> carlee, do you have any tecnhical skills to comment about pulseaudio ? Your oppinion does not match the comments from those which are involved on the sound development area
[18:26] <carlee> Paulo39: read http://www.garytang.co.cc/photos/category/5-halloween-2009
[18:26] <stevecoh1> I guess it was pre-release.
[18:26] <raven_> no of my ubuntu-systems can create BOOTABLE CDS - what is going wrong with "basero" or ubuntu?
[18:26] <bderrly> Suhail: i already showed you ;)  aptitude install mysql-server-5.1 mysql-server-core-5.1
[18:26] <Suhail> oh hey cool
[18:26] <Suhail> http://mapopa.blogspot.com/2009/08/mysql-51x-from-source-on-ubuntu-jaunty.html
[18:26] <erana> Cyber-Dogg: lots of package names can be searched for on packages.debian.org for example
[18:26] <stevecoh1> Was the update this morning for firefox 3.0 or 3.5?
[18:26] <n8tuser> NetLarIrvine-> can you change your nick, so many have net as their first 3 chars and hard to tab
[18:26] <Suhail> bderrly: my server says that's an unknown package
[18:26] <epinky> noren_: :(
[18:26] <merkoth> stevecoh1: 3.5
[18:26] <joaopinto> per the sound dev ppl, mos of the problems are related to ALSA bugs exposed by pulseaudio
[18:26] <sahin> hi
[18:27] <bderrly> Suhail: are you on jaunty?
[18:27] <stevecoh1> So uninstall then reinstall?
[18:27] <bderrly> Suhail: you can always to 'aptitude search mysql'
[18:27] <bderrly> to see which packages are available
[18:27] <Suhail> bderrly: No, I said i was in on intrepid
[18:27] <bderrly> oh, i missed that
[18:27] <sahin> i download my VGA driver how can i install this driver
[18:27] <thomas_> I am currently upgrading to 9.10 but my download speed is as low as 5-16kb/s but when i am downloading the ISO from ubuntu.com the download speed is around 7-800 kB/s any thoughts to the difference?
[18:27] <stevecoh1> Is the command then sudo apt-get install firefox-3.5?
[18:27] <merkoth> stevecoh1: were you using the pre-release version or the repo one?
[18:27] <Guest20683> so, guessing the only way to update ubuntu is to completely re-install?
[18:27] <stevecoh1> pre-rel
[18:27] <Suhail> bderrly: I'd like to learn how to take down newer stuff on older versions of ubuntu =)
[18:27] <joaopinto> stevecoh1, firefox-3.5 is the default for Karmic
[18:27] <n8tuser> thomas_-> far too many users using same server perhaps
[18:27] <stevecoh1> what's Karmic?
[18:28] <odder> bazhang: how is it going?
[18:28] <garytang> its ubuntu 9.10
[18:28] <merkoth> stevecoh1: the latest ubuntu release
[18:28] <jontes> HI! is there any more ways than dual boot ubuntu with windows as wubi?
[18:28] <stevecoh1> Haven't installed that yet.
[18:28] <stevecoh1> I'm on 9.04
[18:28] <NetLarIrvine> n8tuser: it sees the wireless card but just does not connect to the network, keeps asking for the wpa pass
[18:28] <bderrly> Suhail: building mysql from source could be painful if you've never installed from source before...though i can't say from experience as i've never tried to compile mysql, but it is a large package
[18:28] <n8tuser> jontes-> install it permanently as dual boot
[18:28] <CVirus> after upgrading to karmic koala .. rhythmbox won't start with this error: (rhythmbox:20959): CRITICAL **: atk_object_set_name: assertion `name != NULL' failed
[18:28] <garytang> jontes: sure. you can create a ubuntu partition
[18:28] <IdleOne> !dualboot | jontes
[18:28] <bazhang> odder, just checking gconf-editor right now
[18:28] <merkoth> stevecoh1: then the update was for FF 3.0
[18:28] <jontes> where do i download that?
[18:28] <n8tuser> NetLarIrvine-> can you change your nick, so many have net as their first 3 chars and hard to tab .. its hard to type your nick
[18:28] <Suhail> bderrly: so since the package is from jaunty, i cannot install it?
[18:28] <garytang> jontes: thats on the ubuntu iso
[18:28] <stevecoh1> How could the 3.0 upgrade break 3.5?
[18:29] <Arsin> Hey my mouse doesn't work after login, any help? I tried two mice and it has the same result every time. Tried unplugging and putting it back, which does nothing.
[18:29] <bderrly> Suhail: you might be able to if the dependencies are met
[18:29] <jontes> garytang:but i can't read that
[18:29] <noren_> can anyone here help setting up fserver with xchat or simmilar thing
[18:29] <Suhail> bderrly: can i upgrade my distro to jaunty? :P
[18:29] <garytang> jontes: what do you mean you can't read that?
[18:29] <dfassdfj> i am having trouble with turning my computer on in ubuntu karmic
[18:29] <merkoth> stevecoh1: I assumed you were using karmic, I can't remember what version Shiretoko was supposed to be
[18:29] <bderrly> Suhail: you can do whatever you want, haha :)
[18:29] <joaopinto> Arsin, does it work on the login screen ?
[18:29] <k1ko> boom :)
[18:29] <sahin> i download my vidocard  driver how can i install this driver
[18:29] <jontes> I can't open the file
[18:29] <jontes> hehe
[18:29] <garytang> jontes: you burn it to a cd
[18:30] <merkoth> sahin: what driver?
[18:30] <bderrly> Suhail: you might want to backup important data and do a fresh install of karmic
[18:30] <stevecoh1> How painful is the 9.04 -->9.10 update.  Maybe it's time.
[18:30] <Suhail> bderrly: is it possible?
[18:30] <jontes> garytang: ahh ok
[18:30] <joaopinto> sahin, you should install drivers from the official repositories, not from your vendor's site
[18:30] <Arsin> joaopinto: For a few seconds
[18:30] <Suhail> bderrly: oh do upgrades not typically go well?
[18:30] <sahin> via KM400
[18:30] <Suhail> sometimes
[18:30] <merkoth> stevecoh1: can't really tell. just did a fresh install
[18:30] <IdleOne> !burn > jontes
[18:30] <joaopinto> Arsin, that's odd :\
[18:30] <D7> Can I use this mail/messages notification icon to tell me when I get new gmail?
[18:30] <sahin> my card onboard
[18:30] <jontes> ok
[18:30] <bderrly> Suhail: they usually do, but an upgrade from that far back to the current would be scary
[18:30] <stevecoh1> hmm.
[18:30] <Suhail> bderrly: haha ok
[18:30] <Suhail> bderrly: jeez that far back :P
[18:31] <Suhail> bderrly: it's been a year!
[18:31] <stevecoh1> maybe i'm best off uninstalling shiretoko and installing again?
[18:31] <bderrly> Suhail: you can try it if you're daring
[18:31] <gorillamonky> i need some help with my speakers, i know the speakers are working but i cant get any sound out of them in ubuntu
[18:31] <trism> D7: well, you could use gnome-gmail-notify
[18:31] <natschil> now i've also screwed up the usb stick I use for booting as a live cd :(... Is there a way I can delete everything from its loopback device (i.e. any changes I have made?)
[18:31] <Suhail> bderrly: jeez how do people who have stuff deployed on servers handle this then?
[18:31] <bderrly> Suhail: i upgraded from jaunty to karmic over last night and now my home directory (on raid) is inaccessible
[18:31] <vgambit> is it just me, or are the Acceleration and Sensitivity options in Mouse Preferences in Karmic reversed?
[18:31] <trism> D7: gnome-gmail-notifier I mean
[18:31] <joaopinto> gorillamonky, upgrade or clean install ?
[18:31] <abe3k> Hello Guys!
[18:31] <gorillamonky> can somebody help me get my speakers working?
[18:31] <francesca> hi all
[18:31] <Suhail> bderrly: that sounds horrible hah
[18:32] <garytang> vgambit: havenot noticed any differences.
[18:32] <francesca> i have a problem with wifi on karmik koala
[18:32] <bderrly> Suhail: they usually do a LTS server and have backports enabled so they get security updates to packages
[18:32] <vgambit> just fumbled around for 2 minutes until I realized that changing acceleration actually changed movement speed and changing the sensitivity messed with the acceleration
[18:32] <bderrly> Suhail: yeah, i'm not pleased, i can't figure out what the problem is
[18:32] <lmartin92_> n8tuser: I had further instructions but then a transformer blew where I live and power was out for a sec
[18:32] <lucka01> HEllo there.
[18:32] <n8tuser> francesca-> tells us what you did to troubleshoot?
[18:32] <lmartin92_> n8tuser: remember to sud cp /proc/module(s?) to /target/proc/module(s?) before chroot
[18:32] <abe3k> I've upgraded from 9.04 to 9.10 today and I was wondering, what is the grub version that ships with ubuntu 9.10
[18:32] <francesca> this is my board: 0e:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Wireless WiFi Link 5100
[18:32] <merkoth> stevecoh1: ok, now I see. Shiretoko was FF 3.5 codename
[18:32] <trism> abe3k: grub2, but it won't be installed if you upgrade
[18:32] <francesca> n8tuser, networkmanager says the device is disabled
[18:32] <mikeru> every once in a while, when a sound... sounds, if there was more than about a minute without doing any sound, it does a weird buzz...
[18:32] <garytang> abe3k: the upgrade doesn't upgrade to grub2
[18:33] <Suhail> bderrly: seems like oyu have to do total data mrigrations to get the real updated distros then
[18:33] <blue0488> how can I get the flash player to work?>
[18:33] <n8tuser> lmartin92_-> not me you were chatting with before..
[18:33] <merkoth> stevecoh1: you can try downloading FF 3.5 from mozilla.com to see if it works
[18:33] <Suhail> bderrly: which sounds like a nightmare
[18:33] <abe3k> trism : I see, should I do that manually or what ?
[18:33] <garytang> abe3k: you need to do it manually by isntalling the package grub2
[18:33] <mikeru>        
[18:33] <bderrly> Suhail: not necessarily
[18:33] <n8tuser> francesca-> look in dmesg for indications and sudo lshw -C network too
[18:33] <lmartin92_> n8tuser: you refered my info to someone... is why I refered this back to you
[18:33] <Suhail> bderrly: anyway building from source it is
[18:33] <jontes> wich software do you think are best for to burn iso?
[18:33] <abe3k> garytang : I see that grub2 is called a dummy package, is that safe to install ?
[18:33] <Suhail> bderrly: i found a good article on it
[18:33] <bderrly> Suhail: i've done upgrades for multiple versions for years with little pain
[18:33] <joaopinto> !best | jontes
[18:33] <merkoth> jontes: brasero does the trick
[18:33] <garytang> yes, it is
[18:33] <k1ko> blue0488: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[18:34] <garytang> abe3k: follow all instructions here: http://www.ubuntu-inside.me/2009/06/howto-upgrade-to-grub2-on-ubuntu-jaunty.html
[18:34] <n8tuser> lmartin92_-> i cant recall whats past five minutes ago.. what was the problem about again?
[18:34] <Suhail> bderrly: did you migrate data?
[18:34] <gorillamonky> is there a way to make it so when i scroll my mouse on the desktop it dosnt changed desktops?
[18:34] <pshr_> !ics
[18:34] <Valentina> Is there any way in Ubuntu to check what scripts have been run? I want to check if my cron job really starts my script.
[18:34] <lmartin92_> n8tuser: about fakeraid + lvm installing from the desktop live cd
[18:34] <trism> abe3k: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2#Installing (Ubuntu 9.10)
[18:34] <abe3k> garytang : what other things should I upgrade next to the grub 2 ?
[18:34] <bderrly> Suhail: no, i've always had /home on a separate partition so i wasn't concerned about losing data if things went crazy
[18:34] <vak> hi all
[18:34] <jontes> ok
[18:34] <k1ko> h1 :)
[18:34] <garytang> abe3k: only grub2
[18:35] <mikeru> particularily, with alert sounds. like  if I backspace on an empty line in Xchat, it does an alert sound and that weird buzz/noise sounds. If I continue doing so, it won't. But if I wait another minute, it does so again.
[18:35] <n8tuser> lmartin92_-> and you were successful right? so i referred the other individual to see your post that seemed to work
[18:35] <abe3k> garytang : will grub 2 improve boot speeds ?
[18:35] <garytang> abe3k: nope.
[18:35] <ubuntu> IndyGunFreak: i got it! let's keep on going!
[18:35] <vak> does wubi allows to install on the existing ext4 partition without reformating it?
[18:35] <lmartin92_> n8tuser: yep fully works
[18:35] <francesca> n8tuser, last dmesg lines... ive tryied to shut down and restart the card with the button: http://dpaste.com/114681/
[18:35] <not_real> hi. my lagno(reversi) crashes when i try to make a network game. is this a known problem?
[18:35] <wrapster> cant i zip an entired dir...(frankly im not that big a fan of zip but have to send a few files over to a windows machine and have no choice but to use it)
[18:35]  * mikeru wonders if it is related to closing and opening audio device or something like that...
[18:35] <jontes> merkoth: i can't open the file
[18:35] <abe3k> garytang : the problem is that 9.10 is botting way slower than 9.04 so I thought that the grub had something todo with it
[18:35] <merkoth> anyone else experiencing weird hd space usage errors in karmic
[18:36] <n8tuser> lmartin92_-> good posting you have, i wish i can remember it next time someone ask for similar
[18:36] <vak> any Wubi-experts?
[18:36] <meTTy> what is a good way to fill my samba fileserver with files :D (pics,videos, textfiles,...) midnigh commander?
[18:36] <lmartin92_> n8tuser: I'll put it on lmartin92.weebly.com if you like
[18:36] <ArmyMan007> IndyGunFreak: i got it!!!
[18:36] <ArmyMan007> let's keep on going!
[18:36] <lucka01> I just installed ubuntu 9.10 but some of the shortcuts on my laptop won't work. I own acer aspire 5410 which has come with deault preinstalled Linpus. But I've decieded to try ubuntu 9.10 and here I am with partially working keyboard :) I can't darken screen or lighten it. If I press the button which disables touchpad I can't use it anymore even if I press on it again. Any ideas what package do I need in order to fix this. Let me say one more time that this
[18:36] <merkoth> jontes: how so? open brasero->burn image->select the image->burn
[18:36] <garytang> abe3k: grub2 is a bootloader, which means it only gives a choice of OS. it doesn't really have anything to do with the ubuntu loading process
[18:36] <jontes> merkoth: i can't open hehehe
[18:36] <n8tuser> thanks lmartin92_ i will book mark that
[18:36] <pshr_> !ics
[18:36] <vak> Q: can I use Wubi to resurrect my broken Karmic installation?
[18:36] <ababa> hello my ubuntu cant write some letters like äöüß and so on? how can i change this?
[18:36] <pshr_> !ics
[18:36] <garytang> jontes: you mean you can't open brasero?
[18:37] <lmartin92_> n8tuser: no prob, I'll get it up within today, (waiting for inet to stabalize here)
[18:37] <francesca> n8tuser, this is lshw: http://dpaste.com/114683/
[18:37] <alive> hey guys
[18:37] <alive> guys, I'm going to be a pirate tonight for Halloween.  I'm just missing a sword.
[18:37] <rance> hey
[18:37] <alive> Does a fencing sword work?
[18:37] <k1ko> haha
[18:37] <rance> yeah
[18:37] <alive> or does it have to be a saber
[18:38] <alive> I'm sure that pirates didn't use fencing swords
[18:38] <thrope> just upgrades to 9.10 and get xubuntu startup/xlogin - how can I hcange this back to default gdm
[18:38] <k1ko> light saber might do
[18:38] <rance> well pirates raided other ships soo im sure they picked up a fencing sword sometime
[18:38] <merkoth> alive: a saber is more accurate
[18:38] <satbir7> the thing is that my alps touchpad is slow , how can we fix that?
[18:38] <lmartin92_> n8tuser: it'll be at exactly http://lmartin92.weebly.com/weblog.html and I'll give you the post (blog post) url later
[18:38] <francesca> n8tuser, can u help me?
[18:38] <garytang> thrope: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[18:38] <n8tuser> francesca-> can you post your /etc/network/interfaces file?
[18:38] <fjgfjh> hey im using ubutnu hardy heron 8,4 and my network using mikrotik os router but in windows i have intrnet  ubuntu no intrnet i try avry thing but nothing ubuntu still no intrnet
[18:38] <n8tuser> lmartin92_-> thanks again
[18:38] <wrapster> I mean my actual que was ... I zipped a 57MB file and it got compressed to 56MB .. Do ppl even call it compression.?
[18:38] <fjgfjh> eny body help me plz
[18:38] <satbir7> GUYS how can we fix the slow speed of touchpad?
[18:38] <mikeru> hello ?
[18:38] <satbir7> alps touchpad..
[18:39] <merkoth> wrapster: what kind of file did you compress?
[18:39] <thrope> garytang: thanks - just tried - selected gdm from choice of kdm and gdm, but it is still xubuntu branded
[18:39] <trism> wrapster: depends on what was in the directory, if it was a bunch of videos or images, you won't see much compression because they are already compressed
[18:39] <wrapster> merkoth: photos
[18:39] <garytang> thrope: change the login screen theme?
[18:39] <ArmyMan007> can anyone help me?
[18:39] <fjgfjh> i dont have intrnet on my ubuntu box.
[18:39] <merkoth> wrapster: dod you know that png and jpgs are already compressed files, right?
[18:39] <alive> for text files best go with 7z
[18:40] <goothr3n> hi all....i have a big problem...i'm installed the Ubuntu 9.10 to my PC,and when I start the Ubuntu Software Center,it closes automatically....somebody can help me?
[18:40] <bohne> XVampireX: still there?
[18:40] <thrope> garytang: how do i do that?
[18:40] <satbir7> can anyone help?
[18:40] <wrapster> oh.. but im so used to seeing gzip / 7zip work marvellously well
[18:40] <alive> 7zip is the best utility ever made
[18:40] <merkoth> wrapster: there's little point in compressing them
[18:40] <francesca> n8tuser, http://dpaste.com/114686/
[18:40] <XVampireX> bohne, yes
[18:40] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1288352 odder to disable hide the icons? forgive me as I came in halfway through this
[18:40] <KhyaosDrone> Hello Guys, Good job all btw with the new Ubuntu release. I have a small question. My home has 2 internet connections both wired eth0 and eth1 what i am trying to do is make an application use one of those connections. How can i do this. IE: Firefox takes internet from nic1 Xchat from nic2
[18:40] <satbir7> alps touchpad is slow in ......Ubunut 9.10
[18:40] <sebsebseb> fjgfjh: hmm  well when I  upgraded the other computer from 8.04,  to  8.10,  I lost the ethernet connection,  I did a clean install of 8.10  no ethernet,  turns out it woudn't work on the Live CD either.   I put 9.04 on,  and it worked no problem like 8.04.  8.04 is old now,  maybe you should try 9.10  or at least the hardware on the Live CD.
[18:40] <bohne> XVampireX: strange, i could mount the share manually
[18:40] <garytang> thrope: youll have to browse around on the system menu for a while, but i beleive its calllled "themes"
[18:40] <wrapster> no the whole point here is .. I need to mail it across.. so was wondering if anything could be done..
[18:40] <trism> wrapster: you can use 7zip compression if you want, sudo apt-get install p7zip-full
[18:41] <Fager> Why have ubuntu 9.10 developers messed up the gdm?
[18:41] <alive> if you've going to try and compress video then gzip2 would be best
[18:41] <om26er> Fager: whats wrong
[18:41] <XVampireX> I can't even share it manually though >_<
[18:41] <wrapster> trism: I have 7zip..  But i have to mail it to a windows machine..
[18:41] <trism> wrapster: it is marginally better, but still, you are unlikely to get huge compression on already compressed files...you can't put m pigeons in n holes
[18:41] <om26er> Fager: its looking cool
[18:41]  * Theexperts Hiiiiiiiiiii
[18:41] <lucka01> I just installed ubuntu 9.10 but some of the shortcuts on my laptop won't work. I own acer aspire 5410 which has come with deault preinstalled Linpus. But I've decieded to try ubuntu 9.10 and here I am with partially working keyboard :) I can't darken screen or lighten it. If I press the button which disables touchpad I can't use it anymore even if I press on it again. Any ideas what package do I need in order to fix this. Let me say one more time that this
[18:41] <Paulo39> how can i change the splash screen on startup? an the GDM?
[18:41] <merkoth> wrapster: using RAR might give slightly better results
[18:41] <om26er> Fager: no need to add user name just select and add password. made things easier i guess
[18:41] <sebsebseb> Fager: The Ubuntu developers messed something up in 9.04 a bit,  and didn't do what upstream Gnome did,  but now  upstream Gnome has messed GDM up, not  the Ubuntu developers.
[18:41] <ArmyMan007> i need some help with the free space i made for installing ubuntu
[18:41] <bohne> XVampireX: try to use the IP adress instead of pc name
[18:41]  * ruthgard testar
[18:42] <ArmyMan007> cna anyone help me plz?
[18:42] <k1ko> Paulo39: System -> Prefs. -> Appearance
[18:42] <satbir7> Armyman, wht is the problem?
[18:42] <merkoth> ArmyMan007: what's the problem?
[18:42] <wrapster> ok.. thanks..
[18:42] <om26er> ArmyMan007: go on
[18:42] <ZoeyMarie> Just in case anyone is wondering, I totally found out how to get the Ralink 3070 chipset for wireless adaptors working in the new kernel! :D
[18:42] <wrapster> so there is really no point you say...
[18:42] <ArmyMan007> merkoth: can u pm me?
[18:42] <francesca> n8tuser, bad news?
[18:42] <ArmyMan007> om26er: can u pm me?
[18:42] <wrapster> sorry for bothering you folks...
[18:42] <trism> ZoeyMarie: excellent!
[18:42] <bohne> XVampireX: did work for me: sudo mount -t cifs //192.168.0.198/hsr
[18:42] <guntbert> !pm | ArmyMan007
[18:43] <Paulo39> k1ko: i'm in Karmic, and i think is not possible anymore by that way
[18:43] <merkoth> ArmyMan007: what ubottu said :)
[18:43] <satbir7> anyone?
[18:43] <sergio_> scusate  per il server in italiano?
[18:43] <sebsebseb> !it |  sergio_
[18:43] <satbir7> slow speed of alps toucpad.
[18:43] <ArmyMan007> merkoth: join my pm with om26er
[18:43] <Fager> sebsebseb: do you know where I can change the gdm theme?
[18:43] <epinky> ZoeyMarie: yep, excellent!
[18:43] <francesca> !it
[18:43] <sebsebseb> Fager: you can't,  there is a way to do icons and colours though and that's it
[18:43] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. how does one 'join' a pm? :)
[18:44] <satbir7> freaking .. slow...  touchpad.
[18:44] <XVampireX> bohne, what's the cifs thing?
[18:44] <thrope> how can I select/change gdm theme?
[18:44] <trism> Fager: gksudo -u gdm dbus-launch gnome-appearance-properties
[18:44] <satbir7> the settings dont change a thing..
[18:44] <Dr_Willis> thrope:  basically at this time.. i think you dont...
[18:44] <sebsebseb> thrope: see what I just put to  Fager
[18:44] <Gyndawyr> I was wondering if somebody could help me answer a hardware related question?
[18:44] <Sordna> morning all.   Just installed netbook remix 9.10 and can't find a way to switch to classic view like there was on the previous version.  Am I missing something or is it just gone?
[18:44] <k1ko> Gyndawyr: go on :)
[18:44] <bohne> XVampireX: i think the protocol, newer version of smbfs
[18:44] <Dr_Willis> thrope:  theres a few little things you can change.. but its not as themeable as the old gdm was
[18:44] <merkoth> Gyndawyr: ask away
[18:44] <JPSman> when did 9.10 get released?
[18:44] <fjgfjh> HeLP pLZ
[18:44] <dalton2345> i dont like empiphany i cant connect to irc
[18:44] <fjgfjh> sebsebseb* but i had intrnet befor from the router dlink after they install the server of mikrotik i dont have intrnet now
[18:44] <JPSman> ~9.10
[18:45] <bazhang> fjgfjh, with what
[18:45] <JPSman> !9.10
[18:45] <Dr_Willis> JPSman:  a few days ago
[18:45] <pblchai> 9.10 get release october 30th 2009
[18:45] <Gyndawyr> I could buy the Samsung SM2343NW (here: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/158908) for £150
[18:45] <bohne> sudo mount -t cifs //192.168.0.198/hsr /mnt/winshare -o username=USER,password=PASSWORD,iocharset=utf8,file_mode=0777,dir_mode=077
[18:45] <thrope> Dr_Willis: but mine is xubuntu themed - all blue with some shimmering dots... I just want to get the standard ubuntu one
[18:45] <pblchai> or 29th
[18:45] <bohne> XVampireX: sudo mount -t cifs //192.168.0.198/hsr /mnt/winshare -o username=USER,password=PASSWORD,iocharset=utf8,file_mode=0777,dir_mode=077
[18:45] <lucka01> Anyone please ;( My acer aspire 5410 came with preinstalled Linux linpus but now that has ubuntu only works partially ;(
[18:45] <bazhang> 29th pblchai
[18:45] <Gyndawyr> or I could buy the Dell SP2309W (here: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MO-031-DE) for £50 more
[18:45] <pblchai> ok
[18:45] <XVampireX> ah ok
[18:46] <Dr_Willis> thrope:  no idea on that .  id say just stick with the xubuntu one.. or try installung the ubuntu-desktop package to see if that does the change. I dont worry about  gdm eyecandy much
[18:46] <rictec> anyone ?
[18:46] <sathiya> i face a problem in 9.10
[18:46] <Gyndawyr> which one should I buy essentially?
[18:46] <sebsebseb> pblchai: Today it's the 31st of October Halloween,  in some time zones it's already the 1st of November.
[18:46] <pblchai> thrope, just, download a ubuntu from www.ubuntu.com you can choise betwen 32 and 64 bits architecture
[18:46] <merkoth> Gyndawyr: the dell seems to be better
[18:46] <Gyndawyr> but is it £50 better?
[18:46] <XVampireX> bohne: Mounting the DFS root for a particular server not implemented yet
[18:46] <XVampireX> No ip address specified and hostname not found
[18:47] <sathiya> which is i have a wrong entry /etc/fstab, so while bootin it says there is an entry which i have not mounted
[18:47] <k1ko> Gyndawyr: i like the samsung more :)
[18:47] <sathiya> and asks to press ESC to goto troubleshoot ..
[18:47] <merkoth> Gyndawyr: It's hard for me to say
[18:47] <Sordna> just a note, ubuntu netbook remix 9.10 appears to work flawlessly on my acer aspire one 10.1 inch netbook.
[18:47] <merkoth> k1ko: why?
[18:47] <thrope> pblchai: eh? i have ubuntu installed - same install since 2004 or so
[18:47] <k1ko> Gyndawyr: the samsung has more contarst
[18:47] <bazhang> fjgfjh, what is mikrotik (keep it in channel)
[18:47] <Gyndawyr> both have provided similar specification but neither really informed me of their manufacturing process
[18:47] <sathiya> but when i go there, and working it automatically boots and gives me the login screen
[18:47] <epinky> lucka01: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AspireOne
[18:47] <sathiya> does some body clarify me whether that is a bug ..
[18:47] <lilyshu> hi. what should i install openjdk or java?
[18:47] <sathiya> what should do i now ?
[18:47] <fjgfjh> hello
[18:47] <Gyndawyr> most of the technology used in the televisions are of similar ability and technology, and so going by these minor dfferences isnt really useful
[18:48] <fjgfjh> i have problem with my intrnet
[18:48] <merkoth> k1ko: I always thought that 80000:1 was better than 20000:1
[18:48] <john-saint> hi all. how do you uninstall a programme on ubuntu. trying to uninstall truekrypt
[18:48] <fjgfjh> i had intrnet befor
[18:48] <bazhang> fjgfjh, what is mikrotik
[18:48] <fjgfjh> but no no intrnet on my box
[18:48] <Gyndawyr> the manufacturing process is more important, but I cannot find any information on it
[18:48] <Sordna> lilyshu, depends on what you are using it for.  I have some stuff that won't run on openjdk.
[18:48] <bohne> XVampireX: hm.. ? DFS root?
[18:48] <k1ko> whoooops my bad :D
[18:48] <durt> bazhang, it's a standalone router distro
[18:48] <k1ko> sorry
[18:48] <joeyeye> I need help with compiz on karmic ... it's not working apparently
[18:48] <fjgfjh> lo00ol durt36
[18:48] <lucka01> epinky: will it work? :S
[18:48] <sathiya> nobody ?
[18:48] <bazhang> durt thanks
[18:48] <fjgfjh> he dont know mikrotik os router
[18:48] <XVampireX> bohne, no idea, I copied your line and changed the ip >_<
[18:49] <sathiya> k let me try some where else..
[18:49] <sathiya> thanks..
[18:49] <Gyndawyr> dynamic contrast ratio means pretty much nothing. static contrast ratio tells you a bit, but generally its a waste of time anyway. they are tested under "ideal conditions"
[18:49] <sathiya> bye ..
[18:49] <guntbert> john-saint: you can use a GUI or the CLI - which one do you want?
[18:49] <fjgfjh> some body help meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[18:49] <bazhang> fjgfjh, what is the relation to ubuntu
[18:49] <merkoth> joeyeye: video card?
[18:49] <rictec> anyone here can help put a vpau enable system?
[18:49] <lilyshu> Sordna : i'm using it for uploading photos on facebook.
[18:49] <rance> does anybody know python-twitter
[18:49] <epinky> lucka01: read all drawbacks on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AspireOne
[18:49] <john-saint> guntbert hi. im new to ubuntu and still learning the system. how do i do that???
[18:49] <sathiya> where to post bug for ubuntu -- if am not sure about it ?
[18:50] <IdleOne> !bug | sathiya
[18:50] <leaf-sheep> !bug | sathiya
[18:50] <k1ko> Gyndawyr: dell has DVI & HDMI
[18:50] <grawity> sathiya: https://bugs.launchpad.net/
[18:50] <joeyeye> merkoth, it's Intel ... hang on
[18:50] <Sordna> lilyshu, if the program will run on openjdk then go for it I would say.
[18:50] <rance> anybody know python-twitter??
[18:50] <leaf-sheep> IdleOne: ^^
[18:50] <rictec> fjgfjh,  with what?
[18:50] <Gyndawyr> k1ko: does that mean anything?
[18:50] <Gyndawyr> Samsung has VGA.
[18:50] <bazhang> rictec, no one is sure
[18:50] <joeyeye> merkoth, it's Intel 945G
[18:50] <lucka01> epinky: my model isn't listed there I hae acer aspire 5410 :|
[18:50] <bohne> XVampireX: you should change user and password, and also the target directory for the mount, create a new one for that
[18:50] <Dasda> can someone reccomend a good software for burning on ubuntu?
[18:50] <k1ko> Gyndawyr: yeah... but DVI is better than VGA
[18:50] <rictec> bazhang,  ok lol
[18:51] <bazhang> fjgfjh, what is this in relation to ubuntu
[18:51] <Gyndawyr> £50 better? :P
[18:51] <grawity> Dasda: Brasero.
[18:51] <tstebut> Hi
[18:51] <guntbert> john-saint: you can go to system/administration/add remove software
[18:51] <john-saint> dasda: try devede. best software ever!
[18:51] <IdleOne> Dasda: gnomebaker,k3b,brasero.....
[18:51] <merkoth> joeyeye: argh, I know those meant trouble in Ubuntu 9.04
[18:51] <Makavel> Hi... how can i get rid of grub from Live CD?
[18:51] <epinky> lucka01: you'll have to solve lot of things
[18:51] <merkoth> joeyeye: I don't know what's the current situation
[18:51] <Dasda> i have brasero  but its saying "cant burn with current plugins"
[18:51] <rictec> i need someone who knows if vdpau is enabled om mythbuntu 9.10
[18:51] <tstebut> I want to log debug info into a file, is it possible ?
[18:51] <joeyeye> merkoth, it was working fine in 9.04 - I just upgraded today to 9.10
[18:51] <bazhang> fjgfjh, please answer me here (NOT pm)
[18:51] <tstebut> sh -x myscript > logfile
[18:51] <thrope> oh and the karmic upgrade has disabled ctrl-alt-backspace for x restart again - how to i reenable it? (i forgot)
[18:51] <john-saint> guntbert: i cant find it in there
[18:51] <tstebut> but I never get debug info
[18:51] <merkoth> joeyeye: kno idea then, sorry
[18:52] <blenderman345> hi all
[18:52] <fjgfjh> i have intrnet from a network and this network using server mikrotik befor they install the mikrotik server i had intrnet but after i have no intrnet so plz help me if u intrsting caz this problme making me very sad no intrnet in my box and i love ubuntu i dont like using windows :Dcaz windows is sucks but im ne to ubuntu and no intrnet so im using my freind pc now to resolve this problem
[18:52] <IdleOne> Dasda: what is it your trying to burn? and try gnomebaker ( works best for me )
[18:52] <NetLarIrvine_> I guess Ubuntu 9.10 has a problem with WPA wireless, or is there a work around?
[18:52] <guntbert> john-saint: sorry, forgot to ask what version of ubuntu you are using
[18:52] <joeyeye> merkoth, ok - no problem - will research ...
[18:52] <trism> thrope: see https://wiki.edubuntu.org/X/Config/DontZap
[18:52] <john-saint> the new one 9-10
[18:52] <Makavel> Hi... how can i get rid of grub from Live CD?
[18:52] <bazhang> fjgfjh, do you have the computer there to troubleshoot
[18:52] <trism> thrope: there is a new method for karmic to enable it
[18:52] <Dasda> Idleone: itss avi file that i have to burn. Its a documentary called "Life and Debt". I need it for school
[18:52] <lilyshu> Sordna : idk, cause i havent installing it yet. and one more thing i have installing flash which is recommended for playing poker on facebook but it seems that flash is not working. what did i miss?
[18:52] <fjgfjh> my computer is working very good
[18:53] <fjgfjh> but only no intrnet
[18:53] <Sordna> lilyshu, no idea there, sorry.  I have never even looked at facebook.
[18:53] <bazhang> fjgfjh, do you have the computer there to troubleshoot (ie get on the internet)
[18:53] <alberto> hey guys i'm unable to write on a WD external Hard drive,i can browse the files but can't write/delete them, anyone can help? thanks
[18:53] <IdleOne> Dasda: I believe if you install ubuntu-restricted-extras it adds support for certain file types
[18:53] <guntbert> john-saint: then open system/administration, the first item should be add/remove
[18:53] <lilyshu> Sordna : ok thanks
[18:53] <hdon> hi all. i created a custom keyboard shortcut to run gvim, but it tells me "Error while trying to run (/usr/bin/gvim) which is linked to the key (whatever)"
[18:53] <k1ko> alberto: do you have the rights to do so?
[18:54] <lilyshu> anybody else can help me?
[18:54] <jmpurser> Alberto: What are your permissions on the mount point?
[18:54] <spp> hello everyone...  just did a clean  install of xubuntu 9.10 and now the system is hanging without any apparent reason...  I've gone though the log files  but really can't understand what's going on.... any suggestions... besides from keep on googling... thanks...
[18:54] <hdon> is there a log anywhere of the output of the command?
[18:54] <fjgfjh> hellooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[18:54] <leaf-sheep> alberto: You need to chown your external hard drive.  In the terminal, run "cd /media ; ls -al" --> Paste the output
[18:54] <fjgfjh> some body help mee
[18:54] <Dasda> IdleOne: sorry what extras?
[18:54] <thrope> trism: crap - none of those work for me becuase they're on a per user basis and I want it enabled from gdm
[18:54] <john-saint> guntbert: first thing on that lis is janator. nothing in there for add/remove
[18:54] <bazhang> fjgfjh, do you have the computer there
[18:54] <trism> thrope: although, alt+sysrq+k is easy enough (the new ctrl+alt+backspace)
[18:54] <IdleOne> Dasda: the package is called ubuntu-restricted-extras
[18:54] <fjgfjh> nop
[18:54] <quidnunc> Is there a way to set a download rate limit in aptitude without resorting to trickle?
[18:54] <fjgfjh> im with my freind next door
[18:55] <thrope> trism: ill try that - also i didnt see the hal one
[18:55] <fjgfjh> using his computer
[18:55] <IdleOne> Dasda: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras or you can look for it in Synaptic package manager
[18:55] <fjgfjh> (A)
[18:55] <bazhang> fjgfjh, how are you going to get internet on it without it there to troubleshoot and try what we suggest
[18:55] <guntbert> john-saint: strange but doesn't really matter, further down should be an item "synaptic ..."
[18:55] <thrope> trism: ah yeah alt+sysreq+k works fine - but a little harder to do since i dont have the muscle memory yet!
[18:55] <fjgfjh> brother
[18:55] <xiambax> Sista!
[18:55] <fjgfjh> :S
[18:55] <john-saint> guntbert: yes i can see package manager
[18:55] <trism> thrope: yeah, it is taking some practice for me to remember too
[18:55] <freak_> whats up ppl
[18:56] <ZoeyMarie> what's the difference between "mark for removal" and "mark for complete removal" in synaptic?
[18:56] <leaf-sheep> Karmic works great.  However, I'm unable to get my nm-applet to work.  Device not managed. I checked /etc/resolv.conf -- It looks fine. Any suggestions will be nice.
[18:56] <Dasda> IdleOne: k will try that
[18:56] <fjgfjh> some body help me
[18:56] <guntbert> john-saint: start that please, you have to type *your* passsword
[18:56] <freak_> it means to clear fron cache
[18:56] <IdleOne> ZoeyMarie: first one removes the app, second removes app and configs
[18:56] <Dr_Willis> ZoeyMarie:  the latter purges all config files for the program from the system,
[18:56] <k1ko> ZoeyMarie: also removes configuration files
[18:56] <durt> ZoeyMarie, complete removal purges config files.
[18:56] <bazhang> fjgfjh, I'm trying. You need to answer my question
[18:56] <penguin42> leaf-sheep: Did you ever hand configure it in /etc/network/interfaces?
[18:56] <thrope> trism: its cos I usually have the box headless - so when it restarts x is at the wrong resolution so i pop the monitor in and reset so that vnc etc is at the right resolution
[18:56] <Dr_Willis> ZoeyMarie:  but NOT the users owned configs in their home dirs..,
[18:56] <xiambax> be more specific to the level of help you need. Im not a physiologist .
[18:56] <thrope> trism: thanks
[18:56] <john-saint> guntbert: ok done that
[18:56] <fjgfjh> yes
[18:56] <ZoeyMarie> Yay! Thank you all. :)
[18:57] <k1ko> :)
[18:57] <crohakon> nice, do an auto update and now firefox will not lunch.
[18:57] <freak_> any one here who has configured vmware 7 on ubuntu 9.10?
[18:57] <alberto> leaf-sheep: "drwxr-xr-x  7 root    root     4096 2009-10-31 14:17 .
[18:57] <alberto> drwxr-xr-x 22 root    root     4096 2009-10-31 00:39 ..
[18:57] <alberto> lrwxrwxrwx  1 root    root        6 2009-04-25 09:19 cdrom -> cdrom0
[18:57] <alberto> drwxr-xr-x  2 root    root     4096 2009-04-25 09:19 cdrom0
[18:57] <alberto> lrwxrwxrwx  1 root    root       45 2009-08-19 18:09 .directory -> /etc/kubuntu-default-settings/directory-media
[18:57] <FloodBot2> alberto: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:57] <alberto> -rw-r--r--  1 root    root       98 2009-10-31 14:17 .hal-mtab
[18:57] <leaf-sheep> penguin42: Not on this machine.  it's a fresh installation.
[18:57] <IdleOne> crohakon: might not be hungry :)
[18:57] <rictec> thope, do twice that it works
[18:57] <tanath> anyone know why karmic freezes so much?
[18:57] <guntbert> john-saint: now in the quick-search textbox type the name of your app
[18:57] <crohakon> IdleOne; oops, =) launch
[18:57] <Spirits-Sight> Is there any way of shrinking Win XP NTFS partation before installing Ubuntu?  I got a error when ubuntu tryed to do it?
[18:57] <leaf-sheep> penguin42: I have auto lo, ifauto
[18:57] <tanath> my comp is virtually useless now that karmic has been released >.<
[18:57] <john-saint> guntbert: ok found that
[18:57] <fjgfjh> brother look
[18:57] <leaf-sheep> penguin42: Oops.
[18:57] <xiambax> tanath, Its all dependant on your install and hardware. Its not so much the OS as something thats specific to you
[18:57] <IdleOne> crohakon: try launching from terminal and see if it spits out any errors
[18:58] <xiambax> I havent had any issues with my install on this box
[18:58] <tanath> xiambax, no, it's the OS. it was fine before release
[18:58] <eni23> hello. did someone knows a console-prog for visualizing aufio files ? (save to an image or somethig would be great)
[18:58] <mikc> Spirits-Sight: check it and defragment it with windows before
[18:58] <fjgfjh> i know u trying to help me
[18:58] <Dr_Willis> Spirits-Sight:  ther are windows tools you can run in windows to shrink windows partitions. ask in #windows about them
[18:58] <trism> Spirits-Sight: you may need to make sure you defrag the partition before you try to resize it, so all the files are on one side mostly
[18:58] <alberto> leaf-sheep: http://paste.ubuntu.com/306116/
[18:58] <spp> tanath: I have the same problem...
[18:58] <xiambax> tanath, Then its something specific to you.
[18:58] <somekool> Hi All ! congrats on your excellent 9.10 release.
[18:58] <xiambax> Not the distro as a whole
[18:58] <chemjeff> Hi all, anybody got a moment for a question?
[18:58] <phzin> I have ubuntu 9.04 and have an option in ubuntu to upgrade him to 9.10, is a problem in updating it??
[18:58] <tanath> xiambax, that's a non-sequitur
[18:58] <crohakon> IdleOne; how do I launch it from terminal?
[18:58] <guntbert> john-saint: in front of your app there is a green icon, right click on it and choose "mark for removal"
[18:58] <xiambax> What issues are you having? What are you doing during system freezes?
[18:58] <IdleOne> crohakon: firefox
[18:58] <tanath> spp, i've seen someone else mention the same issue in here the other day
[18:58] <jmpurser> chemjeff, just ask.
[18:59] <somekool> I was wondering if the whole desktop is compiled with -O2 flag ? did -OS been considered ???
[18:59] <crohakon> IdleOne; makes sense
[18:59] <Dr_Willis> phzin:  upgrade if you want or need the new features.. or not if you dont want to risk any potential issues from upgradeing
[18:59] <john-saint> guntbert: ok done that
[18:59] <leaf-sheep> alberto: Do you know which path is the one with your external drive?
[18:59] <IdleOne> crohakon: usually the name of the app will launch it
[18:59] <tanath> xiambax, sometimes nothing. i've had it happen simply while booting up
[18:59] <saji> phzin, You shoudn
[18:59] <alberto> jmpurser: i'm not the owner and can't change the permissions as root
[18:59] <chemjeff> I'm having trouble installing the hardware sensors.  The sensors applet yields "No sensors enabled!".  I installed lm-sensors so I don't know what else I need to do.
[18:59] <chibihogoshino> i should not have to install samba to get the samba to work in nautilus browser
[18:59] <guntbert> john-saint: and now select "apply"
[18:59] <Spirits-Sight> trism: any tool that u would recommend for this? not windows tool I hope also kikc thanks also
[18:59] <xiambax> tanath, What type of video card do you have?
[18:59] <crohakon> IdleOne; does nothing when I use firefox in terminal. It does not even attempt to run or output an error.
[18:59] <tanath> xiambax, i can't seem to find a single commonality, though running chrome or chromium seems to cause it more frequently
[18:59] <alberto> leaf-sheep: yeap
[18:59] <xiambax> Onboard or PCIX
[18:59] <fjgfjh> i know u trying to help me
[18:59] <fjgfjh> :'(
[18:59] <tanath> xiambax, old ati
[18:59] <saji> phzin, sorry.. You shouldn't be getting any problems.. But you'll know only on trying..
[18:59] <chemjeff> I should say I'm having trouble installing the hardware sensor monitors, not the sensors themselves.
[18:59] <tanath> xiambax, 9200
[19:00] <leaf-sheep> chibihogoshino: It will install as soon as you toggle the samba on for usage.
[19:00] <fjgfjh> :'( (&( **(
[19:00] <Dasda> IdleOne: I had that installed. Its same thing when i try to burn as video project. Im burning it now as a data cd though
[19:00] <IdleOne> crohakon: hmmm remove and reinstall perhaps
[19:00] <mzawieska> hello guys
[19:00] <thrope> one more 9.10 question - can I disable the pop up notifications that appear on the right of the screen - there seems to be something broken so I cant get rid of them - when I mouseover they disappear, but move the mouse away and they come back
[19:00] <trism> Spirits-Sight: the default tool in XP works fine for me for defragging
[19:00] <xiambax> Did you install the proper drivers. The pm;y issue with lock ups i have had was with drivers. even at boot.
[19:00] <phzin> saji,  ok :)
[19:00] <bazhang> fjgfjh, are you trying to get wired or wireless
[19:00] <xiambax> because they wernt in the kernel
[19:00] <fjgfjh> wired
[19:00] <xiambax> My install of chromium seems to run smooth
[19:00] <hdon> how can i set the default dimensions of gnome-terminal?
[19:00] <jmpurser> alberto: then you have an issue.  without permissions  you're not allowed to write to that device.  It's possible that the device can be mounted locally under your directory and that might fix it.  Check with your sysadmin about this.
[19:00] <DigitalKiwi> lol that sounded weird "I shouldn't have to install something to use it!"
[19:00] <stevecoh1> reinstalling shiretoko worked
[19:00] <Spirits-Sight> trism: where you find it? I have not used XP long time
[19:00] <crohakon> IdleOne; will I lost my bookmarks?
[19:00] <bazhang> fjgfjh, and what do you get when you type ifconfig in the terminal of that computer
[19:00] <tanath> xiambax, there's lots of chatter. if you don't use usernames i'll miss your comments
[19:00] <Isgren> Hi i have a problem with flash in someway my friend wanted to play a flashgame on my computer , but it doesnt work , i have installed the flashplugin-installer from synaptic pm, im using ubuntu 9.10 at the moment. anyone know what can be wrong ?
[19:00] <saji> xiambax, YA chromium runs fine.... and low on memory too...
[19:00] <[manas]> can anyone help me whit proftp got some error http://pastebin.com/m2e76808c
[19:00] <Dasda> when u update from 9.04 to 9.10. Does it loose all installed themes and what not?
[19:00] <spp> tanath:  what can be done? roll back to 9.04 ??
[19:01] <leaf-sheep> alberto: My Passport or My Passport-1?  Either way, you want something like this --> sudo chown -R alberto:alberto /media/My<tab to autocomplete>
[19:01] <chibihogoshino> yeah. i did that .. i should not have to do that tho.. it works fine in 904 . 910 is supposed to be better..
[19:01] <IdleOne> crohakon: backup
[19:01] <john-saint> guntbert: thank you so much. it worked great! sorry for sounding a bit thick lol. this is only my 3rd day on ubuntu after many years using that other os.
[19:01] <xiambax> tanath, pm me
[19:01] <fjgfjh> i got my ip and all info about my eth0 its all right
[19:01] <meTTy> what is a good way to fill my samba fileserver with files :D (pics,videos, textfiles,...) midnigh commander?
[19:01] <doltek> Anybody know where I can get good video tuts for my fiance?
[19:01] <trism> Spirits-Sight: been a while since I used XP too, I believe it is either under Accessories/System Tools, or if you click properites on the drive there should be an option
[19:01] <tanath> spp, i think it's being worked on. eventually updates should fix the issue. it's a matter of time. rolling back i don't think is feasable
[19:01] <saji> Isgren, Is that a web-based flash game or native one?
[19:01] <alberto> leaf-sheep: My Passport
[19:01] <bazhang> fjgfjh, and what happens when you type sudo dhclient eth0
[19:01] <xiambax> brb, I gotta drop the cosbeys off at the pool.
[19:01] <k1ko> Isgren: try sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-sxtras
[19:01] <guntbert> john-saint: don't worry, we are here to help - have fun
[19:01] <alberto> leaf-sheep: ok, i'm gonna try it
[19:01] <boomernang> Hi, where can I find the sound files to empathy in ubuntu 9.10?thanks
[19:01] <somekool> Dasda: everything in your $HOME dir is untouched. everything else to be removed is upon your acceptance.
[19:01] <Dr_Willis> doltek:  there was some ubuntu video tutorial sites.. but ive never looked at them much. check google perhaps?  I dont know if they still exist or have been updated recently
[19:01] <mzawieska> I am gettin this error when i go to my nvidia S server setting for setting up the twineview  "Failed to parse existing x config file /etc/x11/org.conf any1 know what the problem might be
[19:02] <fjgfjh> bazhang
[19:02] <Dasda> somekool: thanks
[19:02] <fjgfjh> im no on my pc now
[19:02] <tanath> xiambax, get my pm?
[19:02] <bazhang> fjgfjh, go check it then
[19:02] <typhoon22> hi guys\girls
[19:02] <firefly> Can someone tell me what is the difference between https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-screensaver and https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-screensaver?
[19:02] <somekool> Dasda: you can always reinstall missing stuff later
[19:02] <trapo> hola
[19:02] <fjgfjh> brother im smoking now:$
[19:02] <crohakon> IdleOne; sadly, it is stuff like this that keeps linux far behind windows and macos... =(
[19:02] <somekool> i updated last night... IMO its rather harmless upgrade
[19:02] <typhoon22> does anyone have any info on sis 671 drivers, the 9.04 ones don't work :S
[19:03] <om26er> any tried remastersys in karmic. its installation asks to remove grub-pc and install grub
[19:03] <trapo> coño cuanto ingles
[19:03] <durt> !es | trapo
[19:03] <somekool> my touch pad seems disabled though since I upgraded.
[19:03] <penguin42> firefly: One is the source package; any source package may have multiple binaries
[19:03] <mattgyver> Is there a way to change the notification popups so they appear in the same location each time?? (ie: pidgin buddy login/message, voulme, etc)
[19:03] <trapo> como entro?
[19:03] <bazhang> fjgfjh, well you said you wanted help; you need to give us some info. sudo dhclient eth0 on that computer
[19:03] <penguin42> firefly: Oops
[19:03] <IdleOne> crohakon: it's stuff like $139 for an upgrade cd for windows that keeps me using linux
[19:03] <mzawieska> I am gettin this error when i go to my nvidia S server setting for setting up the twineview  "Failed to parse existing x config file /etc/x11/org.conf any1 know what the problem might be
[19:03] <leaf-sheep> crohakon: Linux is not trying to dominate the market. It only want the world to know that there actually are something else than Windows.
[19:03] <chemjeff> I'm having trouble installing the hardware sensor monitors.  The sensors applet yields "No sensors enabled!".  I installed lm-sensors so I don't know what else I need to do.
[19:03] <joaopinto> om26er, I don't think remastersys works with Karmic
[19:03] <tanath> mattgyver, there's supposed to be, but it doesn't work for me :P
[19:03] <quidnunc> Is there a way to download but not install upgrade with aptitude
[19:03] <saji> firefly, I guess the difference is that the first is for reporting errors in the source code. The second one is for reporting errors that you may experence.. I mean runtime errors...
[19:03] <quidnunc> ?
[19:03] <om26er> joaopinto: thanx
[19:03] <spp> I'll see if the propietary Nvidia drivers solve my problem... will be back after reboot...
[19:03] <penguin42> firefly: Actually, I think one of those is the gnome screensaver project on launchpad, the other one is the bugs for the ubuntu gnome screensaver package
[19:04] <pretender> ruining unr 9.10 how do you kill the netbook launcher and start the normal gnome desktop
[19:04] <mikeru> HELLO????
[19:04] <Dasda> How long does Brasero usually take for "creating checksum for files"? Myne is taking forever
[19:04] <fjgfjh> but brother if im in ubuntu now i cant talk with u here caz no intrnet
[19:04] <om26er> joaopinto: is there any other such type of app
[19:04] <guntbert> trapo: type /join #ubuntu-es
[19:04] <fjgfjh> how dose i answer u
[19:04] <mattgyver> tanath, do you have a resoucrce like a link or so you could send me?
[19:04] <tanath> quidnunc, yeah, check man aptitude
[19:04] <thrope> in 9.10 in nautilus - can I get drives to show their names instead of "250GB Filesystem" the name shows up correctly in properties
[19:04] <joaopinto> om26er, not that i know
[19:04] <fjgfjh> and no intrnet3
[19:04] <[manas]> can anyone help me whit proftp got some error http://pastebin.com/m2e76808c
[19:04] <alberto> leaf-sheep: i tried it and it didn't work...
[19:04] <trism> crohakon: it is really easy to backup your bookmarks, go to Organize Bookmarks and click import and backup
[19:04] <typhoon22> pretender: you need to download the desktop-switcher
[19:04] <bazhang> fjgfjh, how can you expect to troubleshoot the computer if it is not there.
[19:04] <bostongeek24> i am trying to report a bug but it won't let me its telling me im not speficing a program but its not a problem with a program its a problem with the system itself
[19:04] <tanath> mattgyver, it's in prefs i think
[19:04] <leaf-sheep> alberto: Paste "ls -al /m
[19:04] <firefly> Oh
[19:04] <leaf-sheep> alberto: Oops.
[19:05] <tanath> mattgyver, somewhere in the menu there's an app to configure popup notifications
[19:05]  * mikeru NEEDS HELP!
[19:05] <mzawieska> I am gettin this error when i go to my nvidia S server setting for setting up the twineview  "Failed to parse existing x config file /etc/x11/org.conf any1 know what the problem might be
[19:05] <nameeqa> hi
[19:05] <mattgyver> tanath, okay ill dig around i never saw anything like that, but thanks again!
[19:05] <leaf-sheep> alberto: Paste --> "ls -al /media/"
[19:05] <fjgfjh> i will go home now and talk with u :)
[19:05] <joaopinto> bostongeek24, what is your problem ?
[19:05] <guntbert> !pastebin alberto leaf-sheep
[19:05] <tanath> mattgyver, np. can't point you right to it since i'm not on gnome ATM
[19:05] <fjgfjh> brb
[19:05] <guntbert> !pastebin | alberto leaf-sheep
[19:05] <mikeru>     ?
[19:05] <julianoliver> mikeru: tell us the problem
[19:05] <mikeru>       ?
[19:05] <bazhang> mikeru, ask a question then
[19:05] <mikeru> I've already askedx
[19:05] <mattgyver> tanath, no biggy, i thought i remembered something in jaunty but didnt see it in karmic however im sure i just passed by it
[19:06] <mikeru> every once in a while, when a sound... sounds, if there was more than about a minute without doing any sound, it does a weird buzz...
[19:06] <typhoon22> mzawieska: your xorg.conf is corrupt probably, post it up on the forums
[19:06] <IdleOne> mikeru: ask and be patient please
[19:06] <mikeru> particularily, with alert sounds. like  if I backspace on an empty line in Xchat, it does an alert sound and that weird buzz/noise sounds. If I continue doing so, it won't. But if I wait another minute, it does so again.
[19:06] <alberto> leaf-sheep: http://paste.ubuntu.com/306120/
[19:06] <quidnunc> tanath: I did. I didn't find it. "aptitude download" is for individual packages. I want to do the fetch part of a full-upgrade but not the install (yet)
[19:06] <firefly> penguin42: k.. Thanks
[19:06] <mzawieska> well i had the same problem
[19:06] <nameeqa> on ubuntu 9.04 i was trying to setup network sharing when i messed up everytihng, now i can not use the network on tat machine can anyone help me reset my network config??
[19:06] <mzawieska> in this computer
[19:06] <PsychoMario> is there any way i can put programs that are setuid on my webserver, and dowload them, still setuid root?
[19:06] <mzawieska> but some how i got this working
[19:06] <willy> sal
[19:06] <mzawieska> i forgot what was the command in terminal
[19:06] <Kai_> why is lo only found with ifconfig on Karmic?
[19:06] <Kai_> wlan0 is present on Jaunty
[19:06] <tanath> quidnunc, i suppose you could run it, and then hit ctrl+c at the appropriate point
[19:06] <xiambax> Whats the command to run to tell you what your system specs are?
[19:06] <leaf-sheep> alberto: echo $USER --> it said alberto, right?
[19:06] <joaopinto> mikeru, that bug is probably already reported, search for it on launchpad and set as "affect me"
[19:07] <julianoliver> mikeru: that's a strange problem. is this on 9.10?
[19:07] <PsychoMario> Kai_: Try ifconfig eth0 up in the terminal
[19:07] <bazhang> xiambax, sudo lshw
[19:07] <om26er> when is the UDS?
[19:07] <mikeru> yes, 9.10
[19:07] <mfraz74> lshw
[19:07] <leaf-sheep> !schedule | om26er
[19:07] <Kai_> lshw -C network shows the Wifi card, ethernet card, etc
[19:07] <crohakon> IdleOne; so, I rebooted to see if that would help... and it did... I clicked on firefox and it started and finished the update process... then it proceeded to open 50 firefox windows... one for ever time I tried to start it before the reboot. lol
[19:07] <crohakon> IdleOne; now it works fine
[19:07] <alberto> leaf-sheep: yeap it said alberto
[19:07] <Isgren> k1ko, gonna try that now and see if it works
[19:07] <Kai_> also, in kern.log, I found: "iwlagn: HW not ready" or something
[19:07] <IdleOne> crohakon: lol sounds like fun, glad it's working.
[19:08] <splashote> hi, i want to mount an ext. harddrive: after sudo mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt the terminal shows: "can't find ext4 filesystem on dev sdc. sie müssen den dateisystemtyp angeben.
[19:08] <julianoliver> mikeru: it looks a little like this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-alsamixer/+bug/454224
[19:08] <joaopinto> bostongeek24, help is the channel, not on private :)
[19:08] <leaf-sheep> alberto: Perhaps it is not My Passport.
[19:08] <Kai_> PsychoMario: ethernet doesnt work in Jaunty or Karmic :S
[19:08] <om26er> this page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KarmicReleaseSchedule says 16/11 is it updated?
[19:09] <alberto> leaf-sheep: but it's mounted on /media/My Passport
[19:09] <lmartin92_> n8tuser: are you in ubuntu atm? can  you do ls /proc | grep module and tell me does it have /proc/module or /proc/modules?
[19:09] <nameeqa> on ubuntu 9.04 i was trying to setup network sharing when i messed up everything, now i can not use the network on tat machine can anyone help me reset my network config??
[19:09] <leaf-sheep> alberto: Can you "cd /media/My<tab to autocomplete path>" and then "ls -al" inside --> See if you can see the list of your data in /media/My Passport
[19:09] <julianoliver> mikeru: you could try disabling Pulse Audio.
[19:09] <PsychoMario> how can i put a setuid program on my webserver, and let my clients download it as setuid???
[19:09] <saketh> hello
[19:09] <mikeru> julianoliver: well...not really. It happens when there hasn't been audio output for about aminute, and then there is audio output again
[19:09] <guntbert> splashote: try with  sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sdc1 /mnt
[19:09] <penguin42> PsychoMario: You mean execute it rather than download it ???
[19:10] <leaf-sheep> alberto: In that case, you should unmount it and mount it again. Should work now since you're the owner of the said path.
[19:10] <mikeru> julianoliver:  I wouldn't...  >_>
[19:10] <saketh> i am unable to change the brightness no my laptop with ubuntu karmic
[19:10] <saketh> its dell studio 1555
[19:10] <PsychoMario> penguin42: i want them to be able to download it, and run it as setuid
[19:10] <julianoliver> mikeru: it's very odd. i can't see any bug that matches this issue
[19:10] <mikeru> :S
[19:10] <penguin42> PsychoMario: Oh I see, the best way I guess would be to tar it up - and they download the tar
[19:10] <alberto> leaf-sheep: ls: it said "cannot open directory .: Permission denied "
[19:10] <mikeru> julianoliver:  should I record the sound?
[19:10] <julianoliver> mikeru: try disabling Pulse Audio: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio
[19:10] <leaf-sheep> alberto: Add sudo at beginning of the command.
[19:11] <PsychoMario> penguin42: i'll try that
[19:11] <mikeru> julianoliver:  it's because it's not really a buzz... I don't know how to describe it :P
[19:11] <guntbert> PsychoMario: that seems a bit problematic - securitywise
[19:11] <nameeqa> on ubuntu 9.04 i was trying to setup network sharing when i messed up everything, now i can not use the network on that machine can anyone help me reset my network config??
[19:11] <splashote> guntbert: "wrong fs type"...
[19:11] <Dr_Willis> guntbert:  extreame problematic security wise. :)
[19:11] <om26er> how can i change the width of the entries of window list
[19:11] <hdon> are there bugs involving VERTICALLY ADJACENT virtual desktops? i just changed my six horizontal desktops to six vertical desktops, and now i cannot switch between desktops at all, neither using my pager applet (Workspace Switcher) nor using any shortcut keys
[19:11] <alberto> leaf-sheep: with sudo i can see them
[19:11] <PsychoMario> guntbert: i know, thast the point, im seeing what kind of problems it can cause, and how i could stop it
[19:11] <R0b0t1> How would I change the size of the text in the firefox menus? I see they got larger from 9.04 to 9.10
[19:11] <ard1an[BRB]> Im having problem with Ubuntu 9.10 :( my machine is not turning off or rebooting it just stuck
[19:11] <epinky> nameeqa: edit /etc/network/interfaces
[19:12] <penguin42> PsychoMario: Another way, would be if it was explicitly for Ubuntu or Debian you could try making a debian package and they could download and install that - it can also be signed so your clients knew it came from you and hadn't been tampered with
[19:12] <jepson> I'm new to Linux and Ubuntu, but I have been using 9.04. Yesterday, after I installed Karmic -- I had no sound in _windows_. In ubuntu it was fine, in windows it wasn't. I thought it was something else, so I did a fresh install of Windows, but again, after installing Karmic, the sound in windows is gone! any thoughts on this would be deeply appreciated!
[19:12] <mattmyers83> How is everyone?
[19:12] <guntbert> splashote: ok, what file system do you have on your extern HD?
[19:12] <leaf-sheep> alberto: Do try unmount and unplug the external HDD and plug it again.
[19:12] <r00to3> R0b0t1, Firefox has options to change the size of the text.
[19:12] <PsychoMario> penguin42: the user is not root
[19:12] <om26er> ubuntu key server is causing problems is there any alternative
[19:12] <julianoliver> jepson: i don't see how it's possible for an Ubuntu installation to affect the sound in Windows.
[19:12] <R0b0t1> r00to3: If I'm thinking of the one you're talking about, that only changes the text on the pages.
[19:12] <R0b0t1> r00to3: Under the content tab?
[19:12] <IdleOne> jepson: ubuntu would not have any effect on windows sound
[19:12] <penguin42> PsychoMario: Then they can't download a setuid program
[19:12] <alberto> leaf-sheep: ok i'm gonna try that
[19:13] <splashote> guntbert: i'm sorry but i don't have a clou
[19:13] <IdleOne> jepson: maybe ask in ##windows for some help
[19:13] <r00to3> R0b0t1, lol yes, i read the Q wrong, no idea
[19:13] <mattmyers83> Jepson try reseting to default settings in your Bios
[19:13] <bostongeek24> how do i report a bug on the system?
[19:13] <Dr_Willis> I imagine the untaring would not let them make a suid bit set on the binary..
[19:13] <Valentina> Will cron jobs that I set using crontab -e when I'm logged in as my user really be run as my user and not root?
[19:13] <mattmyers83> Do you have a Dell?
[19:13] <leaf-sheep> !bug | bostongeek24
[19:13] <nameeqa> epinky: i followed an online tutorial and did some comands like sudo iptables -t nat -A POSTROUting -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE
[19:13] <julianoliver> bostongeek24: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/
[19:13] <IdleOne> leaf-sheep: :P +1
[19:13] <penguin42> PsychoMario: If you let someone download a setuid program then anyone could get root
[19:13] <bostongeek24> its not a bug with a package
[19:13] <leaf-sheep> IdleOne: Right before you this time! :)
[19:13] <Sylphid|netbook> jepson, is windows running as a a guest in a virtual install?
[19:13] <bostongeek24> its a bug with the system in general
[19:13] <epinky> nameeqa: "sudo iptables -F"
[19:13] <PsychoMario> penguin42: yes i realise that, im trying to secure against it
[19:13] <jepson> Julianoliver, IdleOne, that's what I thought aswell. I even installed Grub on a secondary hdd, but the sound is missing even when I boot with windows own bootloader.
[19:14] <julianoliver> bostongeek24: that's fine. register it there.
[19:14] <PsychoMario> if i tar the setuid program, it still stops bing setuid after i download it
[19:14] <jepson> Sylphid|netbook, No, it's a plain install. I use two separate hdds for windows and ubuntu aswell. And separate bootloaders
[19:14] <guntbert> splashote: then we'll find a clue: in terminal type sudo fdisk -l and look for a line with sdc1
[19:14] <om26er> keyserver.ubuntu.com is not responding so is there any other way to register a ppa key?
[19:15] <alberto> leaf-sheep: no, it didn't work... i'm frustrated
[19:15] <arand> om26er: use an alternative keyserver.
[19:15] <penguin42> PsychoMario: When a non-priveliged user untars it it'll lose the uid of the thing you are trying to setuid to (It might keep the setuid flag itself - can't remember)
[19:15] <om26er> arand: is there any?
[19:15] <om26er> arand: and how to user
[19:15] <Sylphid|netbook> jepson, i dont see any way that the ubuntu install could affect the windows install then
[19:15] <splashote> guntbert: it says hpfs/ntfs
[19:15] <nameeqa> epinky: i did it what should i do next?
[19:16] <IdleOne> jepson: someone mentioned checking the bios settings.
[19:16] <PsychoMario> penguin42: so theres no way you can transfer setuid programs? i already know that you cant over a memory stick, because the 'defaults' for automounting is nosetuid
[19:16] <dr3mro> I followed this guide to fix my fn f5 f6 keys in jaunty and worked but its not applicable to karmic any ideas plz help me i need help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=97472
[19:16] <jepson> Sylphid|netbook, neither do I -- however, it's done it twice now. Quite interesting
[19:16] <epinky> nameeqa: gedit /etc/network/interfaces and change it to initial values
[19:16] <lucka01> OMG... on my acer aspire 5410 even CDROM doesn't work. I jsut put in a DVD with video content and nothing happens. Where can I access cdrom?
[19:16] <nameeqa> epinky: i do not see Auto eth0 in the Network connections
[19:16] <leaf-sheep> alberto: If you want to, you can turn on all permissions.
[19:16] <penguin42> PsychoMario: Only if the person on the destination side is privileged
[19:16] <TheCheeze> so i am a douche and forgot the person's name that was just helping me...
[19:16] <lucka01> and a few mins ago I watched that same dvd on TV
[19:16] <guntbert> splashote: ah, its probably then ntfs from windows - so replace -t ext3 with -t ntfs
[19:16] <jepson> IdleOne, Yes, I will try that. However it's not an on-board card, so I don't see what settings would affect it.
[19:16] <splashote> guntbert i already tried to mount it with -t ntfs but it says: "... doesn't dseem to have a valid NTFS
[19:16] <PsychoMario> penguin42: well thats a relief
[19:16] <gregorovius> Hi. I have a thumb drive with ubuntu 9.04 which I use for tech support work. Anybody knows if/how can I upgrade it to 9.10? Or do I have to start from scratch?
[19:16] <epinky> nameeqa: then add what's missing
[19:16] <leaf-sheep> alberto: sudo chmod -R 777 /media/My<tab>
[19:17] <ctrlesc> It took me for a long time to installing language package
[19:17] <Dr_Willis> gregorovius:  how did you make the thumbdrive?
[19:17] <guntbert> om26er: http://pgp.mit.edu/ is one
[19:17] <Valentina> What does the x permission mean to a text file?
[19:17] <gregorovius> Dr_Willis, the usb startup disk creator
[19:17] <meTTy> do i have to close a ssh connection in my shell, after doing some remote stuff?
[19:17] <penguin42> Valentina: Executable - for a shell script
[19:17] <arand> om26er: use the password & encryption keys in acessories and in preferences set anothe keyserver, then do a search and add the key in question.
[19:17] <Sylphid|netbook> jepson, you say that it happened twice... how did you fix it last time
[19:17] <Valentina> I have a text file that has got rw but not the rwx as permissions. What does x mean to a text file?
[19:17] <mesula> Ubuntu made me physically sick last night.
[19:18] <typhoon22> gregorovuis: I managed to "upgrade" my usb stick to 9.04 just by copying the files on the iso onto the stick
[19:18] <Dr_Willis> gregorovius:  Hmm.. No sure how to properly  Upgrade that with a persistant home/save file. (if you are using one) You could just make a new one using the same tool then copy the casperrw file (i think thats the name) over to the new drive
[19:18] <Valentina> penguin42: Ok, but what does it mean for a text file, not a script?
[19:18] <om26er> arand: thnx
[19:18] <Brova> gergorovius: System > Administration > Update Manager.
[19:18] <penguin42> Valentina: Nothing, if you tried to run it it would try and execute the text file as a script
[19:18] <Valentina> penguin42: Does it do any difference if a text file has got rwx or only rw?
[19:18] <typhoon22> not sure if itll work up to 9.10 though
[19:18] <Dr_Willis> Brova:  in mot sure that will work for one made with usb-disk-creator
[19:18] <Dr_Willis> :)
[19:18] <penguin42> Valentina: Nope, probably best not to have the x
[19:18] <Valentina> penguin42: Ok, thank you.
[19:18] <guntbert> splashote: strange - I'm out of ideas for now - please ask the channel again, with as much details as possible
[19:18] <Brova> wilis: its how i did it
[19:19] <bostongeek24> im not sure but i don't think its the battery because the battery says its charged i unplugged it then the computer shuts off i don't think thats the battery because this is a brand new computer also im having an issue with the graphics system when the computer first comes on the screen blicks and lowers and raises the brightness also when i try to raise or lower the brightness it does the same thing im also having an issue with
[19:19] <bostongeek24> my network card sometimes it drops the connection but it still shows that its connected
[19:19] <gregorovius> i thought about that, Brova, does it work to upgrade inside the live os?
[19:19] <mesula> Ubuntu made me physically sick last night.
[19:19] <IdleOne> Valentina: a script is basically a text file. the x just makes it executable. if there is no command to execute nothing will happen
[19:19] <piratepenguin> ubuntu 9.10 desktop or netbook remix for an eee pc used by a power user? is it easy to remove the things I dont like on remix?
[19:19] <Dr_Willis> Brova:  that would seem very very odd...  since most of the stuff is in a read only file. then the change/caser file is used..
[19:19] <bazhang> mesula, please take chat elsewhere
[19:19] <typhoon22> piratepenguin: programs add remove same as the full release
[19:19] <mblack154> Anyone have any problems disabling GDM
[19:19] <mesula> bazhang: Command declined.
[19:20] <IdleOne> !ot | mesula
[19:20] <Brova> gregorvious: install ubuntu from the boot disk and upgrade it from there
[19:20] <mesula> It's not offtopic.
[19:20] <piratepenguin> typhoon22: ill give remix a go then, cheers
[19:20] <Dr_Willis> Brova:   Idont have one of those to test any more..  i made a grub2 flash drive that boots the iso file now. :) so i dont have persistant saves on it yet.
[19:20] <splashote> i try to mount an ext. HD but it isn't recognised as a NTFS, any suggestions?
[19:20] <leaf-sheep> alberto: How is it going on your side?
[19:20] <r00to3> piratepenguin, i installed UNR but switched to desktop bcuz of the desktop view
[19:21] <nameeqa> epinky: i added the wired connection by adding the mac address of eth0 i found with ifconfig , but still nothing is showing up, when i plug in the ethernet cable it tried to determine the IP but after some time it says not connected
[19:21] <obiwan_> hi! please one question, while downloading karmic with wget , i got asleep. Now i see a 6xxM file. I tried to resume the wget just to know if it's finished or not, but i get SIZE 724... REST 775... i searched a little about what's rest, and it's the size of the file i've yet downloaded, but how can rest then be higher than the total file (SIZE?)
[19:21] <r00to3> piratepenguin, desktop 9.10 on my netbook runs perfect.
[19:21] <PsychoMario> Dr_Willis: How did you manage to make a usb flash drive that boots isos?? i'd like to use that!
[19:21] <Brova> Willis: want to tell me how you did that? lol
[19:21] <Dr_Willis> PsychoMario:  thats a new feature of Grub2.. let me pastebin my grub.cfg :)
[19:21] <epinky> nameeqa: use the network manager
[19:21] <typhoon22> note of advice guys (while I'm awake) If you put the full install, then the UNR on a netbook and use desktop-switcher between the 2 take your SD cards out first
[19:21] <Dr_Willis> Brova:  :) i will just paste my delicious.com links
[19:21] <piratepenguin> r00to3: did you need to install a different kernel to contol everything? (fans is a big one, they were constantly loud on 8.10)
[19:21] <alberto> leaf-sheep: ok, you're gonna kill it was My Passport-1... i feel so dumb, sorry
[19:22] <Brova> willis: ok thanks
[19:22] <nameeqa> epinky: how to do that ?
[19:22]  * Dr_Willis read/researched grub2 during beta. :)
[19:22] <mblack154> IS update-rc.d -f remove gdm working for anyone.  It states that it works, but boots back into GDM
[19:22] <leaf-sheep> alberto: Heh. That's okay. You got it working now, right? :0
[19:22] <piratepenguin> can i switch from 9.10 remix to desktop without reinstalling?
[19:22] <bostongeek24> so how do i report that to ubuntu?
[19:22] <Dr_Willis> http://delicious.com/dr_willis/grub2
[19:22] <i00nsu> ppl, very cool visual upgrade in koala..
[19:22] <alberto> leaf-sheep: it changing the owner
[19:22] <r00to3> piratepenguin, No.
[19:22] <epinky> did you restart networking ?
[19:22] <typhoon22> piratepenguin: i have both installed on my AA1 - i haven't dared to remove either :|
[19:23] <bostongeek24> ??
[19:23] <epinky> nameeqa: did you restart networking ?
[19:23] <leaf-sheep> alberto: In that case, you should do "sudo chown -R alberto:alberto /media/Correct-Path"
[19:23] <nameeqa> no
[19:23] <i00nsu> I have a litle question: it is possible to get a specific application with a specific language pack ?
[19:23] <nameeqa> how do i ?
[19:23] <bostongeek24> hello??
[19:23] <Dr_Willis> Brova:  it was rather easy to get going.. installed grub2 to the pendrive.. hand made a grub.cfg for it.
[19:23] <piratepenguin> typhoon22, r00to3: ok guys thanks for the info :)
[19:23] <PsychoMario> Dr_Willis: Thanks so much, i've been trying to do that for ages :)
[19:24] <i00nsu> I mean .. OpenOffice with all menus in a specific language
[19:24] <om26er> times new roman, arial and courier new are not in my font. what do i need to install to get them
[19:24] <Dr_Willis> PsychoMario:  it wasent doable with grub1. :) and its ONLY doable with disrtos/iso images designed to handle the special options
[19:24] <i00nsu> om26er, msfonts
[19:24] <Brova> hey. while im here i may aswell ask. does anyone know how i can remap my 5 button mouse to work like it does in windows/mac osx ?
[19:24] <om26er> i00nsu: no
[19:24] <PsychoMario> Dr_Willis: Like knoppix?
[19:24] <m4rk> why isn't truecrypt part of the distro?
[19:24] <Dr_Willis> PsychoMario:  i couldent get the alt-ubuntu iso to boot with it however.. just  Kubuntu and ubuntu iso;s and tiny core linux so far.
[19:24] <guntbert> i00nsu: you install the regular openoffice and the you add a language pack
[19:24] <IdleOne> !mouse | Brova
[19:24] <alberto> leaf-sheep: yeap i did that but it didn't work...
[19:24] <om26er> i00nsu: how to install them. but msfonts are free?
[19:25] <Dr_Willis> PsychoMario:  ive not botherd with knoppix in years
[19:25] <Hypnus9> How do I find a channel for Ardour?
[19:25] <i00nsu> om26er, yes
[19:25] <obiwan_> hi! please one question, while downloading karmic with wget , i got asleep. Now i see a 6xxM file. I tried to resume the wget just to know if it's finished or not, but i get SIZE 724... REST 775... i searched a little about what's rest, and it's the size of the file i've yet downloaded, but how can rest then be higher than the total file (SIZE?)
[19:25] <p1und3r> has anyone else got "One or more of the mounts listed in /etc/fstab/ cannot yet be mounted" and found a solution?
[19:25] <epinky> nameeqa: /etc/init.d/networking restart
[19:25] <joaopinto> m4rk, because it does not use a Free Software compatible license
[19:25] <odder> bazhang: that was the one
[19:25] <typhoon22> does anyone know if anyone is working on a sis671 driver, (or at least updating the old one). the version for 9.04 doesn't work with 9.10
[19:25] <Brova> thanks ubbtu
[19:25] <om26er> i00nsu: are they the same that come with ubuntu restricted extras
[19:25] <odder> bazhang: I have looked into gconf, too, no results
[19:25] <guntbert> Hypnus9: try /msg alis list *ardour*
[19:25] <jacquesdupontd> hey guys
[19:25] <klaido> hey guys. i have just installed 9.10 but i want to go back 9.04. how can be done that?
[19:25] <m4rk> ok...but neither do other things, and you can still get them in universe?
[19:26] <bazhang> odder, there have been some bugs filed against it as well on launchpad
[19:26] <guntbert> !downgrade | klaido
[19:26] <om26er> klaido: format
[19:26] <leaf-sheep> alberto: That's strange.  You should have the permission now since you're the owner.
[19:26] <IdleOne> klaido: backup and fresh install
[19:26] <jacquesdupontd> i'm on 9.10 and i'm bored about those fuc....g ati drivers that doesn't vertical sync good
[19:26] <i00nsu> guntbert, and all menus will be in that specific language ?
[19:26] <sun`> 9.10 is actually better klaido. why go back?
[19:26] <m4rk> I am on 9.10 and no problems so far (touch wood! ;-))
[19:26] <om26er> jacquesdupontd: was that a comment
[19:26] <PsychoMario> Dr_Willis: i havnt used knoppix either, but that is an example that comes to mind. so it wouldnt be useablefor anything like konboot or similar (konboot bypasses windows authentication(i dont use it for bad deeds))
[19:26] <jacquesdupontd> anybody has an idea how to configure an ati xorg.conf on 7.4 ?
[19:26] <klaido> my pc and net is slower.
[19:26] <p1und3r> im liking 9.10 too, other than this error on boot "One or more of the mounts listed in /etc/fstab/ cannot yet be mounted"
[19:26] <jacquesdupontd> om26er, nope a question
[19:26] <c0ld> Ive found some problems on 9.10
[19:26] <guntbert> i00nsu: you can then switch the GUI language at will
[19:26] <k1ko> !hop
[19:27] <typhoon22> klaido: I'm with you
[19:27] <Dr_Willis> PsychoMario:   i got my grub2 configs on the hdrd drive instaleld system setup to boot the isos from the /boot/ partition also so i can recover/reinstall if needed from hd also.. let me give you that url for a example also
[19:27] <Deihmos> is there anything to share media with xbox 360
[19:27] <Dr_Willis> willis@cow:/etc/grub.d$ pastebinit  40_custom
[19:27] <Dr_Willis> http://pastebin.com/f3c279963
[19:27] <i00nsu> very cool, thanks
[19:27] <jacquesdupontd> om26er, im sure there's a way to stop that problem with flicking or vertical sync depends how you call it
[19:27] <Dr_Willis> PsychoMario:  thers ya go :)
[19:27] <bostongeek24> hello??????????????
[19:27] <IdleOne> Dr_Willis: do you have a machine named moo also?
[19:27] <jacquesdupontd> om26er, would like to find someone with an ati card that would tell me how to configure the best my xorg
[19:27] <crohakon> bostongeek24; hi
[19:28] <bostongeek24> how do i file a bug againest the system?
[19:28] <IndyGunFreak> bostongeek24: do you have a question, if so, state it
[19:28] <Dr_Willis> IdleOne:  Nope. :) this is a gateway machine with a cow motif :P
[19:28] <bostongeek24> i did
[19:28] <klaido> guntbert :how can i downgrade?
[19:28] <Dr_Willis> IdleOne:  i got a fileserver named server.. and a Pink netbook named Pinky
[19:28] <IndyGunFreak> bostongeek24: are you sure its a bug or something you just don't know how to fix?
[19:28] <c0ld> Im having problems installing Metasploit... any advice maybe someone can point me in the right direction
[19:28] <meTTy> when i try to copy a file from my desktop to my server: "scp user1@desktop: file user2@server: direction" i got an error; connection refused (port22) - what can i do?
[19:28] <bostongeek24> its a bug
[19:28] <Random832> klaido, reinstall from scratch - you can save the contents of your home directory if you don't want to lose settings
[19:28] <alberto> leaf-sheep: now, when i check the /media/My Passport-1 properties it says that i'm the owner but in the group it says "root"
[19:28] <IdleOne> bostongeek24: launchpad.net
[19:28] <bostongeek24> im having many different types of issues since updating to karmic
[19:29] <David-T> meTTy: are you actually putting a space after the : ?
[19:29] <PsychoMario> Dr_Willis: that looks like it will work. I'll look into that tomorrow; im not suposed to be on my computer at the moment (parents say so :))
[19:29] <Brova> Willis: LOL nice naming choices there ;)
[19:29] <Random832> (can the livecd install without reformatting and just erase everything except /home?)
[19:29] <joaopinto> bostongeek24, so you have several problems, and should file a bug for each of them, assuming you know they are bugs and not regular problems
[19:29] <leaf-sheep> alberto: Like I said earlier... In that case, you should do "sudo chown -R alberto:alberto /media/Correct-Path"    That's what the second alberto in the command is for. :)
[19:29] <meTTy> David-T, no
[19:29] <odder> bazhang: have you found any fixes for that?
[19:29] <bazhang> Random832, that is one benefit of a separate home partition
[19:29] <David-T> meTTy: if "scp user@host:/path/file user@host2:/path/file" gives 'connection refused' you need to run sshd on host2
[19:29] <leaf-sheep> alberto: The first one is for users ; the second one is for groups.
[19:30] <joaopinto> Random832, yes it can
[19:30] <bazhang> odder, as I have been on Karmic all of two days, not yet
[19:30] <klaido> random932: reinstall 9.10 or 9.04? because in 9.04 i upgraded and then upgraded again to 9.10
[19:30] <David-T> meTTy: or you've got a firewall between the two hosts blocking connections to port 22
[19:30] <odder> bazhang: I understand :-)
[19:30] <leaf-sheep> alberto: I have to leave. Good luck! This is little stuffs! The people in here can help you with that. :)
[19:30] <Random832> bazhang, yeah, but i'm guessing klaido doesn't have one
[19:30] <leaf-sheep> !away | crohakon|afk
[19:30] <Random832> klaido, if you want 9.04 install 9.04.
[19:31] <Random832> what problems are you having with 9.10?
[19:31] <meTTy> David-T, there is no firewall, but a router, but i can connect on the server, so i don't think that is the problem?
[19:31] <bazhang> Random832, not sure I have not inquired
[19:31] <dublued2> hi everybody!
[19:31] <crohakon> oh, and happy "dead things" and "dress like a whore day"
[19:31] <David-T> meTTy: you can do "ssh user@host2" on host2?
[19:31] <sweRasca1> sud
[19:31] <sweRasca1> q
[19:31] <cuddlefish> !offtopic | crohakon
[19:31] <Dr_Willis> crohakon:  how did you know this was my wedding aniversy?
[19:32] <crohakon> Dr_Willis; lol
[19:32] <Random832> klaido, back up the contents of your /home/[username] directory to somewhere (it may be possible to install without erasing this, but i'm uncertain) and just reinstall from the 9.04 cd. That's how you downgrade.
[19:32] <bazhang> crohakon, thats not appropriate for here. Please dont.
[19:32] <David-T> meTTy: and are you using NAT?
[19:32] <saketh> i am unable to change the brightness no my laptop with ubuntu karmic
[19:32] <saketh> its dell studio 1555
[19:32] <josefrichter> hi everyone. very basic question> which browser can run if fullscreen mode on ubuntu? I mean truly fullscreen without even a single button displayed
[19:32] <jacquesdupontd> so anybody has an idea to stop this vertical sync problem on ati card on ubuntu ?
[19:32] <klaido> random832. i dont have a cd. i upgraded to 9.04 from 8.10
[19:32] <Dr_Willis> saketh:  ive noticed some oddities in that area on my HP laptop also.
[19:32] <Random832> hey does anyone know why when i hit the key for brightness change it goes two steps? acer aspire 5515
[19:32] <sun`> Why wubi starts downloading data instead of using the DISC?
[19:32] <Random832> klaido, well, you could get one, or you could do the 'long way' and use your 8.10 cd.
[19:32] <meTTy> David-T, "ssh user@host2" on host2? u mean on host 1?
[19:33] <Deihmos> updates are taking forever. i am  getting less than 1KB
[19:33] <Dr_Willis> josefrichter:  theres themes/extensions for firefox for that.. or opera can i think.. and chromium can also.
[19:33] <David-T> meTTy: no, on host2
[19:33] <Random832> what problems have you had with 9.10 anyway?
[19:33] <PsychoMario> are there any _very_ light linux distros that fit on a floppy, that i don't have to compile?
[19:33] <bazhang> Deihmos, that is normal 2 days after a release
[19:33] <om26er> sun' processor architect difference
[19:33] <saketh> what should i do?
[19:33] <David-T> meTTy: it removes the router from the equation
[19:33] <Dr_Willis> PsychoMario:  a FLOPPY? Not that i know of.. TinyCoreLinux = 10mb
[19:33] <julianoliver> Deihmos: change to another mirror.
[19:33] <sun`> 9.04 never did that :o
[19:33] <sebsebseb> sun`: ,because you don't need the disc to do Wubi,  also  really it would be better to do a proper partitioned install
[19:33] <joaopinto> PsychoMario, try asking on #Linux, this is for ubuntu support, not linux in general
[19:33] <meTTy> David-T, yes that works (still doesn't make sense to me ;D)
[19:33] <dublued2> i'm having an issue with ATI x1950 PCI-E graphics card.  I have an asus mobo with onboard nvidia card.  i installed the new hardware hoping that it would automatically detect or atleast show me some picture so i can find and install the correct drivers.  what ends up happening is that ubuntu starts up fine but right when it boots up, i get a dialog box that i cannot read because the resolution is so messed up.  when i click ok on it, it takes me
[19:33] <dublued2> to another window which has 4 options, again not being able to read those options
[19:33] <sun`> i remember i had the same problem with 7.10 once.
[19:34] <PsychoMario> Dr_Willis: I did say i like old hardware. I have about 30 floppys
[19:34] <Deihmos> i am using update manager
[19:34] <manlymatt83> Any major differences between 9.04 and 9.10?  Just installed 9.04 but saw I could upgrade to 9.10.  Worth it for now?
[19:34] <NetLarIrvine> 9.10 is crap
[19:34] <sun`> anything which can be done? as it starts downloading the same iso again.
[19:34] <om26er> sun' vista or 7?
[19:34] <sun`> xp
[19:34] <joaopinto> !language | NetLarIrvine
[19:34] <typhoon22> so..any news on sis drivers? the 671 ones for 9.04 don't work on 9.10
[19:34] <SpinachHead> will an upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10 slow the system down?  Would it be better to do a clean install to 9.10 installed?
[19:34] <josefrichter> Dr_Willis: ok, thank you very much.
[19:34] <typhoon22> I'm wondering if anyone knows if these are being worked on?
[19:34] <typhoon22> josefrichter: run firefox and press f11 is that the kind of thing you want?
[19:34] <NetLarIrvine> 9.10 is awful??
[19:34] <m4rk> I prefer the startup animation on 9.04...I think the 9.10 look will take a bit to get used to
[19:34] <typhoon22> netlarirvine - it's not fun, put it that way
[19:34] <durt> !releasenotes | manlymatt83
[19:35] <Dr_Willis> PsychoMario:  TinyCoreLinux is the most 'small/features' disrto ive seen.. Puppy Linux is 2nd at 100mb in size. good luck :)
[19:35] <sebsebseb> NetLarIrvine: no
[19:35] <om26er> sun' so you can successfully install wubi in my case it gives a bcedit error during install
[19:35] <NetLarIrvine> going back to 9.04
[19:35] <cuddlefish> PsychoMario: Slitaz with netboot?
[19:35] <David-T> meTTy: ok. the router must be blocking connections from host1 to host2 port 22.
[19:35] <Deihmos> what ubuntu needs is a total make over. seems to be stuck in the windows xp era
[19:35] <josefrichter> typhoon22: probably yes. but F11 doesnt work in FF on MacOS, thats why I am asking about linux
[19:35] <tritium> NetLarIrvine: do you need help with something in particular?
[19:35] <David-T> meTTy: the reasons for that depend entirely on your network setup, the type of router, and the router configuration, so I can't really help much.
[19:35] <DeeTay> Bonsoir tout le monde !
[19:35] <Dr_Willis> Deihmos:  go use Kubuntu then perhaps
[19:35] <sebsebseb> NetLarIrvine: 9.10 is not awful  as far as I know
[19:35] <bazhang> !brainstorm > Deihmos
[19:35] <cuddlefish> !englis
[19:35] <julianoliver> Deihmos: yes the new theme is pretty disappointing.
[19:35] <petew> I need some help with my sound
[19:35] <meTTy> David-T, ok, so sshd can't be the problem?
[19:35] <solka> i've installed karmic on a hard drive, the installer created this line in /etc/crypttab: cryptswap1 /dev/sda3 /dev/urandom swap,cipher=aes-cbc-essiv:sha256. After that i connected the second hard drive to the machine, and booted off the first one. The second hard drive happened to be detected as /dev/sda, and ext4 filesystem on this "other" /dev/sda3 became corrupted. I suspect that cryptsetup could be the culprit, but found nothing susp
[19:35] <solka> icious in /etc/init.d/cryptdisks*. Any thoughts?
[19:36] <NetLarIrvine> tritium: the wireless network connections to wpa does not work
[19:36] <DeeTay> rah shit xD
[19:36] <Deihmos> kubuntu is a fogotten step child. buggy
[19:36] <bazhang> DeeTay, #ubuntu-fr pour francais
[19:36] <cuddlefish> petew: yes, what's broken?
[19:36] <joaopinto> ppl, could you please discussing theming and tastes on #ubuntu-offtopic ?
[19:36] <cuddlefish> !language > DeeTay
[19:36] <sun`> see, im trying to install using wubi. in copying files, it starts downloading data from Internet instead of copying it from disc.
[19:36] <tritium> NetLarIrvine: which wireless card do you have?
[19:36] <NetLarIrvine> tritium: i read up on it too and lot of people having problems
[19:36] <sun`> this is the second iso, i have downloaded.
[19:36] <typhoon22> josefrichter: ah ok, try the live cd then, itll only cost you a cd to find out..you can download packages and firefox plugins..if its not what you want then just bin the cd
[19:36] <tritium> NetLarIrvine: URL, please?
[19:36] <sebsebseb> sun`: Why Wubi,  instead of  doing a proper partitioned install from the CD?
[19:36] <om26er> sun' are you using a cd ?
[19:36] <petew> just installed karmic, the internal speakers are working but not the headphone jack
[19:36] <QPrime> NetLarIrvine: I've been playing with Karmic since Alpha1, and while it does have some rough edges, it's generally fine.  Lots of changes in preparation for 10.04 (the LTS release)
[19:36] <NetLarIrvine> linkssy
[19:36] <Picipod> !en
[19:36] <David-T> meTTy: nope, if you can run 'ssh user@host2' on host2, then sshd on host2 is working.  if the same command doesn't work from host1, it's something else between them that is the problem.
[19:36] <Dr_Willis> Id reccomend using virtualbox instead of Wubi
[19:36] <sebsebseb> sun`: in the long run,  a proper partitioned install is better,  for testing  Ubuntu maybe Wubi
[19:37] <saketh> Dr_Willis: what shud i do?
[19:37] <josefrichter> typhoon22: already starting up as virtual machine :-) will see
[19:37] <Dr_Willis> saketh:  about what?  I missed the issue. :P
[19:37] <sun`> I have been using Ubuntu from a long time and I have always installed it using Wubi.
[19:37] <NetLarIrvine> tritium: 9.04 was flawless for me
[19:37] <joeyeye> can anyone assist with compiz on 9.10 and Intel 945G video ?
[19:37] <meTTy> David-T, ok, thank you very much, appreciate that
[19:37] <sun`> NetLar, true.
[19:37] <bazhang> NetLarIrvine, wpa works fine here
[19:38] <saketh> Dr_Willis: i cant change the brightness on my studio 1555 laptop
[19:38] <om26er> sun' use an image not cd
[19:38] <mirak> hi
[19:38] <webbb82> im not sure what i did but . im running ubuntu with kde and gnome installed,   im running the gnome one rite now but i just tried to download gdm 2.20 in synaptic and then it crashed halfway threw.  so now im not sure what
[19:38] <saketh> Dr_Willis: i googled it, but couldnt find anything.
[19:38] <sun`> you mean mount a virtual cd?
[19:38] <typhoon22> josefrichter: heh heh, or you could do that :-P
[19:38] <om26er> sun' yes
[19:38] <mirak> is there a way to list only the real name of a file pointed by a symlink ?
[19:38] <infernix> trying to get some keys, is keyserver.ubuntu.com dead? keep getting timeouts again and again.
[19:38] <sebsebseb> webbb82: What do you see?
[19:38] <julianoliver> mirak: ls -l symlink
[19:38] <sebsebseb> webbb82: when trying to log in
[19:39] <mirak> julianoliver: yes but there are other infos
[19:39] <sun`> aright, let me try it to.
[19:39] <julianoliver> mirak: ahh sorry.. use awk.
[19:39] <webbb82> i didnt log out yet lol.  scared
[19:39] <om26er> sun`: win xp 32bit?
[19:39] <Isgren> Im having big problems with youtube i cant watch in fullscreen the window just gets grayed out and nothing more happends, running ubuntu 9.10
[19:39] <Jeruvy> infernix: it's not unusual, try another keyserver.
[19:39] <mirak> julianoliver: awk is hard to use
[19:39] <Dextorion> any known problems with upgrading ubuntu desktop to 9.10?
[19:40] <dublued2> i'm upgrading from my onboard vga card to ati x1950 and having some issues.  can i install the drivers first and then physically put the card in?
[19:40] <om26er> Isgren: i would say don't throw that as a karmic prblem
[19:40] <madsj> why isn't there a root-user that you can login with ?
[19:40] <julianoliver> mirak: ls -l /path/to/symlink | awk '{ print $10 } '
[19:40] <webbb82> so i think synaptic removed gdm when it was trying to install gdm 2.20 so should i do a -f install or
[19:40] <jken146> !root
[19:40] <cuddlefish> madsj: security
[19:40] <alberto> hey guys i'm unable to write on a WD external Hard drive,i can browse the files but can't write/delete them, anyone can help? thanks
[19:40] <om26er> Isgren: youtube works far more better for me on my netbook than it did on janut
[19:40] <sebsebseb> webbb82: You were trying to upgrade GDM?
[19:40] <om26er> jaunty
[19:40] <joeyeye> Am I in the right channel for karmic help / support ?
[19:41] <sebsebseb> joeyeye: yes now you are
[19:41] <jken146> joeyeye: yes
[19:41] <sebsebseb> joeyeye: since Karmic has been released
[19:41] <Isgren> om26er,  ok it works well in normal mode, but in fullscreen it wont work
[19:41] <om26er> joeyeye: yes
[19:41] <typhoon22> madsj: there is, you can go into user manager in system->administration and reset the password
[19:41] <madsj> cuddlefish: there is on most other distributions
[19:41] <cuddlefish> yeah but not ubuntu
[19:41] <joeyeye> can anyone assist with compiz on karmic and Intel 945G video ?
[19:41] <webbb82> no in synaptic there is a package called gdm-2.20 and i tried to install it thinking it was some theme  manager but i think it was installing gnome 2.20
[19:41] <cuddlefish> and gdm by default kills login by root
[19:41] <webbb82> i dunno
[19:41] <sun`> ahh no luck.
[19:41] <om26er> joeyeye: i think it should work out of box
[19:42] <fribuntu> Hi. I have a problem installing "cvs" completely which blocks a whole bunch of other packages. Error message: Setting up cvs (1:1.12.13-12ubuntu1) ...
[19:42] <fribuntu> install-info: No dir file specified; try --help for more information.
[19:42] <sebsebseb> webbb82: oh I see, you want to theme GDM?
[19:42] <Isgren> om26er, found some forum post to download the tar.gz file from adobe then put the file in usb/lib/firefox/plugins but still have the same problem
[19:42] <madsj> typhoon22: I suppose I can do that from a terminal when I've used "sudo su"
[19:42] <jken146> madsj: There is no root password in ubuntu.  Sudo will be sufficient for everything.  You *can* have a root password if you want, but there is no need.
[19:42] <sun`> i should go for cloning this system.
[19:42] <joeyeye> om26er, no compiz fails and fallsback to metacity
[19:42] <sun`> GHOOST!
[19:42] <om26er> Isgren: so you are using 64bit?
[19:42] <cuddlefish> madsj: if you are really obstinate: start in single-user mode and run startx
[19:42] <jken146> madsj: yes, or sudo -i
[19:42] <fribuntu> Can anyone tell me what I have to do to get this working? How and where do I specify a dir file?
[19:42] <sebsebseb> webbb82: This  new GDM can't be themed like the one one
[19:42] <Isgren> om26er, yes i am using the 64bit
[19:42] <josefrichter> maybe one more: can Mozilla Prism be fullscreen as well?
[19:42] <murcherson> hi folks, i could use some help with lm-sensor, trying to figure out what temp1,temp2 etc are actually monitoring
[19:42] <typhoon22> madsj: you can do..ust don't ask me the commands ;-)
[19:42] <soreau> joeyeye: If you come to #compiz, I will help you there
[19:42] <cuddlefish> webbb82: It uses the GTK theme for the user "gdm"
[19:43] <om26er> Isgren: 64bit and flash on ubuntu are not good friends in ubuntu
[19:43] <joeyeye> soreau, thanks will do
[19:43] <Deihmos> why would you install 64bit
[19:43] <klaido> NetLarIrvine: i agree totally with you. i am too going back to 9.04.
[19:43] <DigitalKiwi> madsj: it's really funny when people try to add themself to a group, typo, end up removing themself from wheel, and have to come here asking how to fix it...if there was a root account they wouldn't have this problem =D
[19:43] <sebsebseb> Deihmos: having a 64bit proccessor that's why
[19:43] <trism> webbb82: you can change the wallpaper and gtk theme, gksudo -u gdm dbus-launch gnome-appearance-properties
[19:43] <Deihmos> everyone knows it has bugs
[19:43] <madsj> DigitalKiwi: I don't screw up :P
[19:43] <zelrikriando> hello
[19:43] <Webtester01> Greetings.
[19:44] <fribuntu> Deihmos: And having 8 GB of RAM.
[19:44] <Isgren> om26er, oh okay =(
[19:44] <Guest21384> Can anybody tell me when grub2 will support booting btrfs?
[19:44] <jken146> DigitalKiwi: Ubuntu doesn't use wheel.  The sudoers gru
[19:44] <zelrikriando> I have some problems with an installation of Karmic
[19:44] <DigitalKiwi> madsj: I didn't say you did
[19:44] <jken146> DigitalKiwi: Ubuntu doesn't use wheel.  The sudoers group is admin
[19:44] <Isgren> om26er, wasnt the answer i wanted to hear :D
[19:44] <Deihmos> 8gb of ram n ubuntu? why
[19:44] <zelrikriando> I cannot install a dependency called libkrb53
[19:44] <DigitalKiwi> jken146: same diff
[19:44] <swindle> anyone know how to call system temp/voltage/fan speed on an asus Mobo in karmic?
[19:44] <Morydd> I've installed (and reinstalled) the flash installer package, it's run the download, but flash isn't showing up in FF. Any suggestions?
[19:44] <sebsebseb> Guest21384: that's off topic really for this channel  #ubuntu-offtopic  ##linux
[19:44] <jken146> swindle: lm-sensors
[19:44] <fribuntu> Deihmos: Because there is only one thing that is better than a lot of RAM. Even more RAM.
[19:44] <madsj> DigitalKiwi: but I get your point; ubuntu is just a bit different from a normal unix-installation in some ways
[19:44] <tritium> Morydd: you installed the ubuntu packge?
[19:45] <tritium> package*
[19:45] <penguin42> swindle: acpi -t should get you CPU temps
[19:45] <madsj> like slackware, which is what I've used earlier
[19:45] <Morydd> tritium: yes. via synaptic and apt-get via CLI
[19:45] <swindle> lm-sensors dostn work... acpi -t dosnt work
[19:45] <Guest21384> sebsebseb: Is it? I run ubuntu with grub2 and btrfs. So why is this off topic?
[19:45] <julianoliver> swindle: odd
[19:45] <Timo__> Anyone here has the same problem as I have? Ventrilo does not work on WINE anymore in Ubuntu Karmic...
[19:46] <Timo__> In 9.04 it worked fine (sry for 2 lines)
[19:46] <jken146> madsj: It's there to protect people from themselves.  Set a root password if you are confident you won't misuse it
[19:46] <julianoliver> swindle: what about cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THM0/temperature
[19:46] <Random832> is there a supported upgrade path to 64-bit? I installed 32-bit 9.04 from a cd from a friend
[19:46] <typhoon22> swindle: I had to install it
[19:46] <sebsebseb> Guest21384: ,because btrfs is not supported in Ubuntu
[19:46] <sebsebseb> Guest21384: since it's not out properly yet
[19:46] <swindle> no such file of dir.
[19:46] <IndyGunFreak> Random832: no.. you'd have to burn a 64bit disk
[19:46] <swindle> i installed sensors and acpi
[19:46] <Omen20> histo, is there any reason why i cant see my XFS drive to mount? gparted sees it.
[19:46] <julianoliver> swindle: 'sudo dpkg -l | grep acpi'
[19:46] <jken146> Random832: if you want to go from 32bit jaunty to 64bit karmic, you'll need to install afresh
[19:46] <typhoon22> swindle: sudo apt-get install acpi
[19:46] <klaido> hey guys that are using 9.10.  does 9.10 shut down normally? mine says: disconnecting swap...and it never shut down.
[19:46] <swindle> kk sec
[19:47] <julianoliver> klaido: seems to be a common problem.
[19:47] <sebsebseb> Guest21384: well as far as I know  btfs isn't supported
[19:47] <swindle> already installed
[19:47] <IndyGunFreak> klaido: mine shuts down fine on all 3 machines
[19:47] <madsj> jken146: wonderful world of su-login :-)
[19:47] <julianoliver> klaido: well, 5 or so people complaining here about it in the last hour.
[19:47] <julianoliver> swindle: what's the machine?
[19:47] <Guest21384> sebsebseb: but btrfs-tools is in universe repos
[19:47] <Omen20> hi is there any reason why I cant see my XFS hard drive to mount it?
[19:47] <zelrikriando> http://pastebin.com/m6f4982eb
[19:47] <zelrikriando> :(
[19:47] <sebsebseb> Guest21384: ok maybe I am wrong then
[19:47] <obiwan_> hey guys, why wget -c tells REST bigger than SIZE? ftp protoocl says that SIZE is the total, REST is the amount i have yet downloaded, so when i resume it, i start from REST on, so why do i have more downloaded than the total size? that's impossible!
[19:47] <swindle> asus p5n-sli deluxe core 2 duo
[19:48] <Webtester01> I have no sound with a clean install of Karmic. Here is the results of aplay -l: http://pastebin.com/d2c2cbc67
[19:48] <fribuntu> I'd really appreciate some help here. I cannot even uninstall the cvs package any more: Removing cvs ...
[19:48] <fribuntu> install-info: No dir file specified; try --help for more information.
[19:48] <fribuntu> dpkg: error processing cvs (--remove):
[19:48] <fribuntu>  subprocess installed pre-removal script returned error exit status 1
[19:48] <FloodBot2> fribuntu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:48] <crazed> i'm having a strange issue with ati on 9.10, i have two monitors and the restricted driver in use, both monitors are set to the same resulotion but the second monitor is always displayed with about an inch of blackness around the actual desktop
[19:48] <julianoliver> obiwan_: not if packets were dropped/lost
[19:48] <fribuntu> sorry for the flooding.
[19:48] <julianoliver> fribuntu: try dpkg --configure -a
[19:48] <fribuntu> julianoliver: hang on ... will try.
[19:49] <jken146> obiwan_: yes, that's impossible.  start the dl again
[19:49] <DigitalKiwi> use a torrent
[19:49] <jarnos> Hello. I am using lirc in jaunty. It does not work well with power management: My remote control device name changes from /dev/ttyUSB0 to /dev/ttyUSB1 and lirc starts to take a lot of CPU on resume, if I don't stop lirc before entering to suspend. Is this a bug in lirc or what?
[19:49] <murcherson> help me please:) trying to figure out what temp1,2 etc in lm-sensors is actually measuring
[19:49] <Morydd> I've installed (and reinstalled) the flash installer package, it's run the download, but flash isn't showing up in FF. Any suggestions?
[19:49] <fribuntu> julianoliver: does not do a thing.
[19:49] <klaido> julianoliver: i thought it would be better but 9.10 is worse.
[19:49] <cuddlefish> mucherson: try pwmconfig
[19:50] <om26er> klaido: its better
[19:50] <obiwan_> julianoliver: yeah, but then they're lost, REST is supposed to say the server the offset of bytes i have, so for example, if file is 10 bytes, i don't download them all, but just from the REST (6 for example) on, so i just downlaod the last 4 bytes, and not the whole 10. But what i have is a total size of 6, and a rest of 10, that's impossible!
[19:50] <julianoliver> fribuntu: now 'sudo aptitude remove cvs'
[19:50] <crazed> fuck it ati blows
[19:50] <r00to3> Morydd, try Ubuntu Software Center
[19:50] <julianoliver> obiwan_: yes this very strange.
[19:50] <erUSUL> !language | crazed
[19:50] <om26er> jaunty users join #ubuntu-1
[19:50] <assoguerozen_sx> guys, new menus not appearing when i install new apps (wine)
[19:50] <crazed> sorry
[19:50] <cuddlefish> crazed: language, but also YOU ARE CORRECT YOU WIN
[19:50] <julianoliver> obiwan_: i wouldn't trust the part file you have. start the download again..
[19:50] <typhoon22> klaido: here is what i've noticed..on my rubbish laptop, boot time between 9.04 and 9.10 is the same..my desktop however 9.10 is slower
[19:50] <Xgates> if anyone is into a smaller ubuntu channel let me know...
[19:50] <fribuntu> julianoliver: I still get the same error (install-info: No dir file specified; try --help for more information.)
[19:51] <madsj> is it possible to disable the searching for a command to find out what package I should install to make it availble ?
[19:51] <lepban> does anyone know about the EasyPeasy Fork for netbooks?
[19:51] <zelrikriando> is there a way to get the dependency libkrb53
[19:51] <zelrikriando> I cannot find it
[19:51] <hdon> hi all. my login fails every time if i create a ~/.xsession file! even if it just says "echo hi" (in which case my .xsession-errors file will end with "hi") or even if it is COMPLETELY BLANK
[19:51] <julianoliver> klaido: it's worse for some yes but i think it's having the greatest success on weird hardware i've seen so far. the channel's actually much less plagued with disaster upgrades than last Jaunty's release.
[19:51] <Jordan_U> madsj: Yes, remove the package "command-not-found"
[19:51] <Guest40101> I've seen some screenshots of people using ubuntu and they have this sidebar looking thing with info/stats about the computer, What is the name of the program/ where can i find it?
[19:51] <om26er> lepban: easy peasy is based on ubuntu netbook so y not ubuntu netbook
[19:51] <Random832> hdon, what does your .xsession look like?
[19:52] <trism> Guest40101: it's probably conky
[19:52] <Random832> when the last command it started exits (or if the last command is in the background), it will exit immediately and log you out
[19:52] <hdon> Random832: right now i deleted it because that was the only way i could login via gdm! even if it is A ZERO BYTE FILE i get a message immediately after logging in telling me "Your session lasted less than 10 seconds, blah blah"
[19:52] <julianoliver> klaido: all said, i think it's best to avoid the upgrade and just backup home and start from scratch.
[19:52] <julianoliver> klaido: a lot has changes (HAL etc)
[19:52] <fribuntu> julianoliver: Any more hints how to get rid of, or better still, how to install cvs on ubuntu 9.10 (amd64)?
[19:52] <klaido> typhoon22: 9.04 was much faster in my pc.
[19:52] <hdon> Random832: do i have to run something at the end of the .xsession file?
[19:52] <Random832> hdon, the xsession is a shell script. when it finishes it logs you out. most people start something at the end that will stay running for their entire session (the window manager)
[19:53] <julianoliver> fribuntu: are you using non-official repositories?
[19:53] <hdon> randabis: sorry, i knew that, i just forgot
[19:53] <Random832> what exactly are you trying to do with .xsession
[19:53] <mikeru> alsa's "default" device... sucks
[19:53] <trapo> #ubuntu-es
[19:53] <mikeru> so slow on mednafen, particularily
[19:53] <fribuntu> julianoliver: Nope. cvs from the standard ubuntu repositories.
[19:53] <mikeru> çççç
[19:53] <typhoon22> klaido: im going to go back to 9.04 on my pc, but use my laptop to see when 9.10 is worth upgrading to
[19:53] <julianoliver> fribuntu: strange. which mirror?
[19:53] <heatherRm> hello i've just updated to karmic and i can't log into xubuntu with my main account so i'm using my backup, I'm assuming that it's my display settings. how do i reset them from this account?
[19:53] <guntbert> trapo: type /join #ubuntu-es
[19:54] <purvesh> hey i have Ubuntu 8.10 Intrepid and i want to update to new ubuntu 9.10 , purvesh
[19:54] <fribuntu> julianoliver: de.archive.ubuntu.com
[19:54] <erUSUL> purvesh: you have to upgrade to 9.04 first then to 9.10
[19:54] <julianoliver> klaido: typhoon22 no harm in waiting for the first major update to 9.10. just like Windows 7, many people having problems after release.. best to wait if it's a critical machine.
[19:54] <awisgod> I've seen some screenshots of people using ubuntu and they have this sidebar looking thing with info/stats about the computer, What is the name of the program/ where can i find it?
[19:54] <mikeru> nevermind
[19:54] <julianoliver> fribuntu: try changing all sources to .dk or .nl, updating and trying again.
[19:54] <freevryheid> on Karmic: sudo apt-get install glade-doc fails: Depends: libscrollkeeper0 but it is not installable
[19:54] <purvesh> erUSUL, but i cant do directly to ubuntu 9.10
[19:54] <mikeru> mednafen is SLOW with pulse
[19:55] <erUSUL> awisgod: probably is conky
[19:55] <cuddlefish> awisgod: try screenlets
[19:55] <madsj> Jordan_U: I just did a "chmod -x"; safest way if I decide that it's useful again :-)
[19:55] <Random832> awisgod, link to a screenshot?
[19:55] <erUSUL> purvesh: no you can not.
[19:55] <Random832> (my guess would have been gkrellm, but that's because i'm old)
[19:55] <Dasda> is it ok to cancel ubuntu upgrade while its in the stage of "getting new packages". Myne says its gonna take 7 hours but i wont be home for that long
[19:55] <purvesh> erUSUL, u hav any command for update to 9.04
[19:55] <cuddlefish> Dasda: yes
[19:55] <erUSUL> !upgrade | purvesh
[19:55] <Random832> Dasda, my computer crashed during that stage and nothing bad happened
[19:55] <julianoliver> anyway, good luck all.
[19:55] <Dasda> and torrent is probaly way faster too then
[19:55]  * julianoliver waves
[19:55] <fribuntu> julianoliver: Should they not be identical? I mean, I downloaded the ubuntu 9.10 disk from a belgian server and the SHA1SUMs from the german repo and it worked just fine.
[19:55] <cuddlefish> it will resume from where it left off
[19:56] <Random832> (the crash was a power thing - the display reacted wrong to being put on AC)
[19:56] <typhoon22> julianoliver: I'm not "dissing" it, I just like having latest versions - I've already redone my desktop....What I am chasing is SiS671 drivers for said laptop as the ones for 9.04 don't work
[19:56] <petew> if my sound card isn't supported by alsa, what can I do?
[19:56] <purvesh> erUSUL, thanx... can u say me the . how much mb... it takes.. to update to 9.04?
[19:57] <fribuntu> petew: Buy a different one?
[19:57] <Webtester01> I need help getting sound working on my clean install of Kamic Koala, the results of aplay -l are here: http://pastebin.com/d2c2cbc67
[19:57] <petew> fribuntu: I
[19:57] <petew> fribuntu: I'm on a laptop
[19:57] <erUSUL> purvesh: depends on what software you have installed. but it can be a lot
[19:57] <fribuntu> petew: Seriously, you could also kindly ask the menufacturer of the sound hardware to support Linux.
[19:57] <erUSUL> purvesh: you can cut dl time by using the laternate cd
[19:57] <erUSUL> !alternate | purvesh
[19:58] <fribuntu> petew: menufacturer = manufacturer
[19:58] <ManTK> buenas
[19:58] <erUSUL> !es | ManTK
[19:58] <fribuntu> petew: But what is the sound hardware on your laptop that it is not supported? Seems strange ...
[19:58] <ManTK> sorry
[19:58] <dreamon> Upgrading to Karmic cost a lot of error -> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/148031/ -> im getting stucked with rest 8min. what can i do?
[19:58] <ManTK> hi all
[19:59] <purvesh> erUSUL, but if i do from cd.. then my all the   settings & software will be removed ?
[19:59] <Dasda> !torrents
[19:59] <erUSUL> purvesh: you use the cd as a cache of packages. you do not boot into it
[19:59] <erUSUL> purvesh: see the docs i linked
[20:00] <Thoku> Hi all
[20:00] <lepban> hi thoku
[20:00] <Thoku> I recently upgraded to Karmic and video play back is now distorted
[20:00] <Thoku> the colours seem inverted
[20:01] <manlymatt83> Is there another way to tether to a blackberry from verizon?  Barry works well but there's no ubuntu package for it in the default repos, so you have to either make one yourself or get one from a random site.
[20:01] <|Leech|> Hello everyone. I have recently acquired a 400gb Sata hard drive. I have a 250gb IDE hard drive that I plan on reusing soon, too. Which one will be better to put my /home directory on?
[20:01] <penguin42> manlymatt83: I see barry-util
[20:01] <KenBW2> anyone happen to have an LG U890 phone syncing with Ubuntu?
[20:02] <Dr_Willis> random site?   http:///dev/urandom ? :)
[20:02] <petew> fribuntu: via vt1708A
[20:02] <Dr_Willis> |Leech|:  you want lots of space.. so moar is always better. :)  400gb is good for home.. unless you do like i do and  have a  hd just for torrents
[20:03] <drakeman> Hey guys, good afternoon, guys, im using debian, but my flashplugin  runs really sluggish, problems with hd videos in fullscreen runs slowwwwww, i downloaded both isos, kubuntu and ubuntu 9.10, i want to know how is the peformance with flash plugin in this awesome distro, because if i get a good feedback definitly i change from debian to kubuntu (because i like kde)
[20:03] <zelrikriando> I cannot find libkrb53
[20:03] <drakeman> hope some of you can answer. thanks.
[20:03] <CopyWriter> brother in linux, should i clean install or upgrade
[20:03] <madakralc>  /help
[20:03] <Chunky_Ks> Afternoon, all. I've got some software I've been working on for a while. I've created the stuff necessary to build debian packages. I remember seeing a page on the wiki about how to start the process to actually try and get my stuff included in ubuntu, but I now can't find that page. Can anyone please point me in the right direction?
[20:03] <Thoku> As you can see here. The video playback is some what distorted. http://twitpic.com/nq1h4
[20:03] <jrib> drakeman: flash sucks everywhere.  distro-independent really as it's closed source
[20:03] <tanath> ok, this freezing is getting really frustrating
[20:03] <Yackal> oops
[20:03] <CopyWriter> either way isn't a problem, tho for curiosity sake i'd like to throw the question out
[20:04] <Sweetshark> Hi guys, I just updated to xubuntu 9.10, and my atheros wifi stopped working. is there a howto on how to get it going again?
[20:04] <tanath> this is the worst release yet >.<
[20:04] <jrib> !packaging | Chunky_Ks
[20:04] <drakeman> jrib, so, in ubuntu flash videos runs slowww too?
[20:04] <|Leech|> Dr_Willis: Thanks. I play some games, download Linux iso, play with virtualbox, and do a lot of Gimp editing. I need to buy cables for the sata drive and recover data from the IDE due to power cutting out during a partition resize. I should have backed up first =(. Thanks again
[20:04] <m4rk> what sort of code coverage for whitebox testing does ubuntu have? mainly thinking about trojans etc
[20:04] <freevryheid> CopyWriter 8 hrs vs 1 hr (your choice)
[20:04] <Chunky_Ks> Thank-you
[20:04] <CopyWriter> and are there advantages
[20:04] <_GRUB__> hello everyone
[20:04] <obiwan_> ey i'm trying to setup a router with qos, i have two fields : ip source address and ip destiantion address, in my two routers i have the same, i go tno idea what should i put in there, and the @@!~# manual isn't helpful at all either, so does anybody know please?
[20:04] <obiwan_> hi grub
[20:04] <Morydd> r00to3: software-center crashes when attempting to start
[20:05] <m4rk> what sort of code coverage for whitebox testing does ubuntu have? mainly thinking about trojans etc
[20:05] <tanath> please tell me someone is working on fixing the freezing issues
[20:05] <jrib> drakeman: my flash runs equally on ubuntu, arch, and debian for me.  Try ubuntu out on a spare partition for yourself though :)
[20:05] <docmax> hello, im searching for a picture manager like xnview... is there something on ubuntu?
[20:05] <m4rk> tanath: are you working on it? perhaps they could do with some help
[20:05] <icefire> Freezing on what tanath
[20:05] <tanath> m4rk, not sure how i can help...
[20:05] <zelrikriando> I would like to know how to install manually the dependency libkrb53 please
[20:05] <zelrikriando> I need it
[20:05] <drakeman> jrib, thanks, i ask because i read that some people have a great performance with the flashplugin-nonfree inside ubuntu or kubuntu
[20:06] <tanath> icefire, my comp keeps freezing since karmic was released, though was fine for months before that
[20:06] <zvacet> can somebody help me with http://paste.ubuntu.com/306164/
[20:06] <cherva> what is a LSO for target in iptables ?
[20:06] <icefire> Not having that problem :-/
[20:06] <tanath> icefire, seems pretty random
[20:06] <m4rk> tanath: well stating what septs you take, what you see and what you expect to see would help, telling them what hardware you are running
[20:06] <XtrHotMarSpy> i have a question. i just installed 9.1. my desktop is black, i can't see my desktop icons, tho the icons are there, i can hunt around and click on them and they open. i have tried changing themes and backgrounds. the themes will change on the windows i open, the background and entire desktop remains black. any ideas?
[20:06] <drakeman> my other possible reason to upgrade is the up to date software, much better than debian.
[20:06] <trism> docmax: I like gthumb, never used xnview before, although seems similar to the screenshots on their page
[20:06] <_GRUB__> what kind of boot times is everyone getting on netbooks?
[20:06] <_GRUB__> *are
[20:06] <Morydd> I've installed (and reinstalled) the flash installer package, it's run the download, but flash isn't showing up in FF. Any suggestions?
[20:07] <exodus_ms> is it safe to cancel the upgrade to karmic during the "Getting New Packages" part of the upgrade?
[20:07] <fribuntu> petew: What does "lspci" say about sound or multimedia interfaces?
[20:07] <Dr_Willis> XtrHotMarSpy:  seen someone earlier have a similer issue due to compiz/effects   having some issues.. you could try disabling compiz (if its enabled)
[20:07] <manlymatt83> hmmmm.  OK, thanks.  But I ASSume there's no way to remove software installed from a specific repository right?  I installed it from the manual repository entry I had to add to sources.list, but now I'd like to remove anything that was installed from that repository.  Would I have to reinstall?
[20:07] <m4rk> Morydd, I found that flash was quite difficult to get going on older versions of firefox/ubuntu, but now it just works
[20:07] <manlymatt83> (since I don't know what was and wasn't from that repository?)
[20:07] <manlymatt83> or does ubuntu keep track of where an existing installed package came from?
[20:07] <drakeman> hey here is any old debian user? to see if its worth the changeeeeee
[20:07] <penguin42> Morydd: Have you tried fully quickitting firefox and restarting? Does it show up in about:plugins?
[20:08] <Dr_Willis> manlymatt83:  synaptic can show installed things from specific repositories I belive
[20:08] <tanath> m4rk, i've seen someone else complaining about freezing in here too. i'm wondering if it's already been reported
[20:08] <m4rk> Morydd, what does about:plugins tell you?
[20:08] <XtrHotMarSpy> Dr_Willis, how do i check?
[20:08] <m4rk> tanath: do you know which component it is with?
[20:08] <tanath> m4rk, i poked around launchpad for a min, and there's tons of freezing reports, but i'm not sure if any of them are mine/related
[20:08] <Dr_Willis> XtrHotMarSpy:  disable compiz compltely and see if it works
[20:08] <dreamon> Please help.. Upgrade to karmic .. endless errors like this -> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/148031/
[20:08] <tanath> m4rk, no. seems pretty random
[20:08] <zvacet> exodus_ms:  it is possible it will crash your OS because upgrade is begin maybe I´ wrong
[20:08] <aquachica> Hi. I am having an issues with Network Monitor in 9.10. Is there a way for it to display the which service you are connected to?
[20:08] <tanath> m4rk, sometimes freezes before i can log in, or finish booting
[20:09] <Morydd> penguin42, m4rk: flash does not show up in about:plugins.
[20:09] <hackbench> manlymatt83: i thought you can see anything you installed from synaptic, but not sure
[20:09] <docmax> trism, semms to be good
[20:09] <tanath> m4rk, sometimes kernel freezes, sometimes not...
[20:09] <LongBeach> is SuperTux 2 a good game ?
[20:09] <XtrHotMarSpy> Dr_Willis, yep. thanks. it worked. what do i lose without compiz?
[20:09] <exodus_ms> ok, thanks zvacet I thought it might be safe since all it's doing is downloading the packages, not installing them
[20:09] <tanath> m4rk, sometimes happens when i run specific apps, sometimes not
[20:09] <m4rk> tanath: sorry mate. I don't know about this one. Do you know what is bloicking?
[20:09] <Morydd> I have reinstalled via synaptic and CLI. I've even done a reboot.
[20:09] <manlymatt83> I see that now.  The repository is something from launchpad.net.  ppa.launchpad.net/universe.  Are packages from there OK to trust?
[20:09] <tanath> m4rk, sorry?
[20:09] <zelrikriando> is there a way to edit a dependency????
[20:09] <m4rk> I don't know much about ubuntu by the way tanath, there is probably someone here who knows more than me
[20:09] <aquachica> In 9.04, it would allow me to see a list of possible connections.  Now, it only shows wlan0, eth0, lo...
[20:10] <guntbert> LongBeach: try it .... - we cannot know what is *good* for you :)
[20:10] <manlymatt83> http://ppa.launchpad.net/doctormo/barry-snapshot/ubuntu
[20:10] <m4rk> tanath, I meant to ask, do you know what is *blocking*
[20:10] <m4rk> nevermind
[20:10] <trism> LongBeach: it's pretty much a mario clone, if you like mario you'll probably like it (controls aren't as sharp though)
[20:10] <zvacet> exodus_ms . I never upgrade via net so maybe I´m not right person for that kind of advice
[20:10] <tanath> m4rk, explain
[20:10] <LongBeach> installing it now
[20:10] <penguin42> Morydd: OK, quit firefox, open a shell and go into .mozilla/firefox, and then into the weird named directory - there is a pluginreg.dat file - delete it - and try again
[20:10] <Dr_Willis> XtrHotMarSpy:  special defects :)
[20:11] <m4rk> tanath, I mean is there some sort of resource bottleneck or does it just hang
[20:11] <TLF> hello
[20:11] <XtrHotMarSpy> Dr_Willis, ah, cool! :)
[20:11] <Random832> what's this about a mario clone?
[20:11] <m4rk> i mean, it must be doing something, right?
[20:11] <TLF> it's true that in karmic adding a ppa will automatically download the GPG key?
[20:11] <petew> fribuntu: 04:01.0 Audio device: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT1708/A [Azalia HDAC] (VIA High Definition Audio Controller) (rev 10)
[20:11] <m4rk> the computer's clock doesn't just stop, does it?
[20:11] <trism> Random832: supertux
[20:11] <exodus_ms> cool zvacet thanks man
[20:11] <tanath> m4rk, well, sometimes it seems to grind to a halt, but sometimes it's very sudden
[20:11] <Webtester01> quit
[20:11] <neeD_help> hello where i can download the alternative CD to upgrade ubuntu can't find the .iso @ ubuntu's site thx
[20:11] <jake_> What does setting your user status in karmic koala do?
[20:11] <spp> Hello everyone...  running xubuntu 9.10 and I get Bus error when trying to run Firefox... any suggestions on what to do?
[20:11] <exodus_ms> !alternate
[20:11] <tanath> m4rk, and sometimes it seems completely frozen, but i can still move the mouse a bit
[20:11] <m4rk> ok. sorry I'm not being much help
[20:12] <zvacet> sorry I was not much of help
[20:12] <TLF> it's true that in karmic adding a ppa will automatically download the GPG key?
[20:12] <guntbert> jake_: its supposed for messaging programs
[20:12] <m4rk> tanath, what are you doing when this happens?
[20:12] <joaopinto> zvacet, yes
[20:12] <m4rk> watching porno or downloading torrents I expect
[20:12] <zvacet> joaopinto ????????????
[20:12] <tanath> m4rk, as far as i can tell there is no commonality
[20:12] <tanath> m4rk, seems random
[20:12]  * skysong saw porn somewhere...!
[20:12] <m4rk> tanath, got you...
[20:13] <m4rk> tanath, have you tried turning off ubuntu one?
[20:13] <guntbert> !ohmy | m4rk
[20:13] <tanath> m4rk, sometimes nothing. as i said, sometimes i can't even make it to the login screen
[20:13] <exodus_ms> neeD_help, http://releases.ubuntu.com/karmic/
[20:13] <m4rk> guntbert, sorry mate, I was just joking :)
[20:13] <XtrHotMarSpy> thanks you guys. see you later
[20:13] <tanath> m4rk, uh... how?
[20:13] <tanath> m4rk, i don't even know that it's on
[20:14] <neeD_help> exodus_ms tgx
[20:14] <neeD_help> exodus_ms thx*
[20:14] <exodus_ms> neeD_help, np
[20:14] <ManTK> hi all
[20:14] <Morydd> penguin42: now I'm seeing a flash plugin, but it's 9.0
[20:15] <Casper1> im trying to watch a wmv but it says its encrypted
[20:15] <m4rk> tanath, are you on version 9.10? if so then it's in synaptic package manager
[20:15] <tanath> TLF, i would hope not
[20:15] <drakeman> HEY is worth thechange from debian to kubuntu for a desktop pc
[20:15] <drakeman> ?
[20:15] <TLF> tanath: uh, oh?
[20:15] <tanath> m4rk, have been for months. freezing didn't start 'till after release BTW
[20:15] <bondolo> so i downloaded karmic cd via torrent and trying to upgrade. update-manage doesn't seem to consider the cd as a source and wants to download everything. how do i make update-manager consider the cd as a source
[20:15] <jrib> drakeman: only you can decide that.  Try both, and use what you like
[20:15] <TLF> tanath: but now it's possible to add ppa's via ppa: directly right?
[20:16] <mzawieska> any1 know how to set up share folder via samba
[20:16] <mzawieska> three computer set up to the same network
[20:16] <penguin42> Morydd: hmm odd, did you ever manually download it
[20:16] <joaopinto> bondolo, you can only upgrade with the alternate cd, not with the regular desktop cd
[20:16] <jrib> mzawieska: right click on folder -> share
[20:16] <mzawieska> i want to create share folder
[20:16] <tanath> m4rk, why would _turning off_ a feature be in synaptic?
[20:16] <guntbert> !ot | drakeman
[20:16] <anao> hallo@all where do i find the basics of karmic "inside" like gdm start/stop there is much new..
[20:16] <mzawieska> the folder is not showing in the other computer
[20:17] <mzawieska> i have set up everything but its not showing jrib?
[20:17] <zvacet> bondolo : you can upgrade with alternate CD did you downloaded that one
[20:17] <spp> anyone... firefox says Bus error ... what to do?
[20:17] <eper3z> im trying to download torrents via utorrent[wine obv], but i keep getting error when i try to apply permissions on the drive they just get reset?? how can i properly set my permissions
[20:17] <eper3z> ?
[20:17] <Casper1> can some1 help me im trying to watch a wmv but it says its encrytped
[20:17] <utku> Some icons under the system menu strangely disappeared. And I can't make them appear.
[20:17] <drakeman> guntbert, thanks
[20:17] <drakeman> jrib,  thanks..
[20:17] <cherva> what is a LSO for target in iptables ?
[20:17] <tanath> m4rk, i presume you mean to remove it? what's the packagename?
[20:17] <penguin42> utku: If they've all gone then you can turn them backon by going to preferences->appearance-> and there is an options to turn icons in menus on
[20:17] <trism> anao: check out http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/910overview
[20:18] <rictec> hum got here nice
[20:18] <bondolo> joaopinto, zvacet : nope, i download the standard desktop one. i was hoping by having the cd it would avoid most of the package downloads of an online install. :-( I guess I will just let it spend 7 hours downloading.
[20:18] <guntbert> !hi | rictec
[20:18] <fribuntu> btw: I found the problem with my cvs (and hence Eclipse) installation. I installed TeXLive 2008 manually and it had a conflicting install-info version that took precedence over the ubuntu one.
[20:18] <zelrikriando> what a .build does?
[20:18] <utku> penguin42: Worked! Thanks a lot.
[20:19] <penguin42> utku: Np
[20:19] <vak> hi all
[20:19] <rictec> anyone knows any simple way to check if i have mplayer xine and myth tv on 9.10 vdpau enable?
[20:19] <hiems> Hello... On Karmic, 64-bit, ATI proprietary driver make the system freeze at boot, right when it starts the x server, with a blank screen... Any idea?
[20:19] <tanath> m4rk, found it. it's not installed
[20:19] <fribuntu> The hint about "are you using the original repositories" made me wonder what might have gone wrong. So please, fwiw DON'T manually install anything if you don't have nerves of steel and know what you are doing.
[20:19] <zvacet> bondolo : make separarwe home if you don´t have one http://psychocats.s465.sureserver.com/ubuntu/separatehome
[20:19] <Morydd> penguin42: it's possible that I did at some point.
[20:20] <zelrikriando> what a .build does?
[20:20] <aquachica> Does anyone know why the broadcast list on Network Connections, in 9.10, is only showing "wlan0", "eth0", and "lo" instead of the broadcasts available?
[20:20] <m4rk> which package, tanath ?
[20:20] <jrib> mzawieska: what ubuntu versions?
[20:20] <tanath> m4rk, ubuntuone
[20:20] <guntbert> zelrikriando: I cannot understand your question - please rephrase
[20:20] <zvacet> bondolo: then install karmic on root and don´t format home
[20:20] <penguin42> Morydd: Hmm I wonder where you put it!  Maybe ~/.mozilla/plugins?
[20:20] <mzawieska> 9.10
[20:20] <Xgates> eper3z: why don't you just use Transmission, it works fine and less hassles...
[20:20] <jrib> mzawieska: on both server and client?
[20:20] <fribuntu> I only opted to manually install texlive, because the version provided by ubuntu is seriously outdated. 2007 as opposed to 2008 with 2009 in beta now.
[20:20] <mzawieska> !jrib 9.10
[20:20] <jrib> !who | mzawieska
[20:21] <zelrikriando> guntbert, I was wondering what a .build format means
[20:21] <jtheuer> Hi, does anyone know if ubuntuone is available for hardy? (is hardy still the most recent LTS version?)
[20:21] <fribuntu> Anyone else using LaTeX?
[20:21] <mzawieska> yea they run 9.10
[20:21] <Arsin> Hey, my songs are skipping like mad, I'm reading them off another drive and I'm using songbird
[20:21] <eper3z> im used to my utorrent!
[20:21] <tanath> Xgates, eper3z i'd recommend Deluge over Transmission
[20:21] <mebigfatguy> all: keyserver.ubuntu.com is timing out? expected? massive traffic?
[20:21] <eper3z> seems like its a drive permissions issue i have
[20:22] <Xgates> tanath: ahh didn't hear that one...
[20:22] <guntbert> zelrikriando: I don't recall "a .build format". are you talking about a file named something.build ?
[20:22] <zelrikriando> guntbert, I am trying to install root-system but I am having huge problems because of this : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/root-system/+bug/462059
[20:22] <vak> fonts in browsers... they are not that nice... how to fix it?
[20:22] <eper3z> just not knowledge to know how to set them manually, because via the gui doesnt seem to be working Xgates
[20:22] <mzawieska> two computers run on linux ubuntu 9.10 one is windows xp
[20:22] <tanath> Xgates, seems to be the best native linux torrent client.
[20:22] <mzawieska> i am trying to share the folder of my computer(ubuntu 9.10)
[20:22] <zelrikriando> guntbert, so I was actually wondering what was the file.build.gz posted on there
[20:22] <jrib> mzawieska: if you want me to be able to help you, please use my nick...
[20:23] <jrib> mzawieska: can you see the share on the server itself?
[20:23] <mzawieska> can we talk in privet room?
[20:23] <Xgates> tanath: actually maybe I did hear, just can't remember at the moment, but the GUI looks like I've seen it
[20:23] <tanath> eper3z, deluge is similar to utorrent
[20:23] <jrib> mzawieska: no, just use my nick
[20:23] <mzawieska> how can i do it?
[20:23] <Xgates> eper3z: just not knowledge for what?
[20:23] <s0101> is it only me having problem downloading ubuntu 9.10 from www.ubuntu.com
[20:23] <jrib> mzawieska: type the symbols "jrib: " before everything you say to me
[20:23] <trism> mzawieska: j<tab> your message here
[20:23] <om26er> eper3z: much similar and great in for ubuntu
[20:24] <mzawieska> jrib, okay
[20:24] <eper3z> to set the permissions for the directory/drive im trying to download my torrents to
[20:24] <Xgates> Deluge does like like uTorrent, pretty similar...
[20:24] <fribuntu> mzawieska: right click on the folder -- sharing options -- and do what it says
[20:24] <petew> fribuntu: any ideas about my sound problem?
[20:24] <mzawieska> i did it
[20:24] <mzawieska> doesnt work
[20:24] <fribuntu> petew: I am still waiting for that lspci output about sound and/or multimedia devices.
[20:24] <mzawieska> i am not able to see even on the network that my folders are shared
[20:24] <Hilariousity> Hi I messed up grub and have been attempting to fix it with the livecd but fdisk -l doesn't give me any output from the liveCD. Is there any other way that I can list the partitions
[20:25] <eper3z> when i try to edit file access settings in permissions tab, it just auto resets to "-" Xgates
[20:25] <iaindalton> I got the alternate CD and in the middle if installing, it's asking for another CD. Which one is that?
[20:25] <petew> fribuntu: 04:01.0 Audio device: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT1708/A [Azalia HDAC] (VIA High Definition Audio Controller) (rev 10)
[20:25] <trism> Hilariousity: did you use sudo for fdisk -l?
[20:25] <Morydd> penguin42: I show libswfdecmozilla.so in /usr/lib/swfdec-mozilla/ and /usr/share/ubufox/plugins/
[20:25] <mzawieska> jrib, do you see my msg
[20:25] <vak> Q: anyone knows how to get nice fonts? (I need them mainly for browsers)
[20:25] <guntbert> zelrikriando: sorry, no idea, but I *guess* it just a folder with source files....
[20:25] <jrib> iaindalton: did you "check the cd for defects" before trying to install?
[20:25] <jrib> mzawieska: no.
[20:25] <mzawieska> god
[20:25] <mzawieska> :/
[20:25] <iaindalton> jrib: Yeah.
[20:25] <erana> Hilariousity: disklabel -E
[20:26] <Xgates> eper3z: well like tanath said you should use Deluge, it's very similar to uTorrent, there's not reason not to use it, my god man you're in Linux, dump that Windows app and quit messing with Wine, because Wine can get complicated if you are not experienced... :)
[20:26] <mzawieska> jrib, any ideas how to solve it
[20:26] <jrib> iaindalton: and it said there were no errors?
[20:26] <zvacet> iaindalton : it must be some mistake there is no other cd
[20:26] <phantomcircuit> I have subpixel hinting turned on but it doesnt seem to be working in firefox
[20:26] <d0wn> Not sure if there is one of these for linux like there is Windows, but is there an app to scan an .mpeg file for common errors, and fix if it can?
[20:26] <jrib> mzawieska: I asked you a question already.  Can you see the share on the server itself?
[20:26] <tristil> I have a strange situation with Karmic. I can't use any of the gnome-control-center programs because of an error "Failed to open file '/usr/share/gnome-control-center/ui/display-capplet.ui'" Sure enough, that file doesn't exist.
[20:26] <iaindalton> jrib: no errors.
[20:26] <mzawieska> jrib, how can i do it?
[20:26] <eper3z> thanks Xgates, ill look into it
[20:26] <eper3z> :)
[20:26] <jrib> iaindalton: well it's not supposed to ask you
[20:26] <tristil> Or any files under /usr/share/gnome-control-center.
[20:26] <mzawieska> jrib, u mean on the network
[20:26] <mzawieska> jrib, the folder not showing off
[20:27] <tanath> why can't i find the link to file a new bug report?
[20:27] <jrib> mzawieska: on the same computer you are sharing from, see if the share shows up in Network or whatever
[20:27] <obiwan_> ey i'm trying to setup a router with qos, i have two fields : ip source address and ip destiantion address, in my two routers i have the same, i go tno idea what should i put in there, and the @@!~# manual isn't helpful at all either, so does anybody know please?
[20:27] <rm200910> Hi, I installed cups-pdf and would like to generate a PDF from my print output. The cups printer goes to 'pending' and does not generate anything. Any suggestions? Thanks
[20:27] <zelrikriando> guntbert, so far it looks like a file and not a folder
[20:27] <jrib> tanath: bugs.ubuntu.com
[20:27] <tanath> there's no link on bugs.launchpad.net
[20:27] <mzawieska> its not showing
[20:27] <newuser901> halloooooo
[20:27] <typhoon22> hi
[20:27] <newuser901> may i ask somethin about karmic koala?
[20:27] <jrib> mzawieska: did you get any output or feedback when you righclicked on the folder and set it up to be shared?
[20:27] <guntbert> zelrikriando: then I have really no idea at all - sorry
[20:28] <iaindalton> The title of the curses window is "Install the base system". It reads: Please insert the disk labeled: 'Ubuntu 9.10 _Karmic Koala_ - Release i386 (20091027)' in the drive '/cdrom/' and press enter.
[20:28] <guntbert> !ask | newuser901
[20:28] <petew> fribuntu: did you get my lspci data?
[20:28] <kulight> any one using weclipse?
[20:28] <tanath> jrib, thanks
[20:28] <mzawieska> jrib, this is what it says http://i37.tinypic.com/2j43s40.png
[20:28] <m4rk> anyone managed to get tinychat working on 9.10?
[20:28] <fribuntu> petew: Sorry overlooked it at first. Got it. I am thinking, googeling and trying to solve my own problems at the same time. Please wait :)
[20:28] <Xgates> eper3z: I sent ya a PM, get it?
[20:28] <mzawieska> the kuba-...its my brother computer
[20:29] <newuser901> i upgraded to the new release but with my radeon 9200 and compiz on the background disappear and all the effects go slow
[20:29] <jrib> mzawieska: try: smb://localhost
[20:29] <mzawieska> jrib, he runs on windows xp
[20:29] <newuser901> any idea to fix it?
[20:29] <petew> fribuntu: ok, thanks. take your time :)
[20:29] <krackpot> is there any way to change the gnome menu icon in karmic? i've tried the ubuntutweak, but it reloads the interface but the icon is still the same
[20:29] <tanath> jrib, um, clicking on File a Bug takes me to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[20:29] <mzawieska> jrib, could not find localhost
[20:29] <tanath> jrib, how the hell am i supposed to manually file a bug now?
[20:29] <penguin42> Morydd: Use dpkg _S to find which packages own each of those files
[20:30] <trism> tanath: yeah, they seem to have disabled it on launchpad, they want you to use ubuntu-bug now
[20:30] <penguin42> tanath: It's horrid, you have to use ubuntu-bug
[20:30] <hackbench> using 9.10 right now, where is that network icon under administration? i need to change dns settings
[20:30] <chinmaya> hi, data transfers are very slow at 4MB/sec
[20:30] <jrib> tanath: did you try reading the page?
[20:30] <newuser901>  i upgraded to the new release but with my radeon 9200 and compiz on, the background disappears and all the effects go really slow
[20:30] <mebigfatguy> keyserver.ubuntu.com is timing out? expected? massive traffic?
[20:30] <Xgates> penguin42: you can type apport-bug <app>
[20:30] <tanath> trism, penguin42 that's retarded. what if you can't?? >.<
[20:30] <chinmaya> does anyone know a fix to 9.04
[20:31] <trism> tanath: not disagreeing with you, just the way it is
[20:31] <mzawieska> jrib, it worked
[20:31] <penguin42> tanath: If you follow that page downt here is a way to do it on launchpad by a special URL
[20:31] <tanath> Xgates, not if you don't know the app
[20:31] <newuser901> and many other users seem to have this problema but can find how to fix it on the net
[20:31] <docmax> hello, im searching for a picture manager like xnview... is there something on ubuntu? (even something else than gthumb!)
[20:31] <penguin42> tanath: I agree with your sentiment
[20:31] <Xgates> tanath: :)
[20:31] <guntbert> mebigfatguy:  try http://pgp.mit.edu/
[20:31] <jken146> hackbench: use the network manager applet on the top panel
[20:31] <quinten_> hi, i just tried to upgrade from 8.10, to 9.04, to 9.10
[20:31] <newuser901> !ask
[20:31] <jrib> mzawieska: does it show up on the other ubuntu computer?  Enter "smb://local_ip_of_the_server" in the other one
[20:31] <tanath> trism, who's bright idea was that? >.<
[20:31] <chinmaya> hi, data transfers are very slow at 4MB/sec ? does anyone know a fix to jaunty
[20:31] <Random832> what is an "LSB Module" and why aren't any available?
[20:31] <quinten> after upgrading to 9.10, mysql is no longer working and can't be installed
[20:31] <Xgates> tanath: well let's see you want to file a bug? Peeps filing bugs should be geek enough to know their tools, yes?  :)
[20:31] <tanath> penguin42, thatnks
[20:31] <trism> docmax: why don't you just use xnview? there is a linux version listed on their site
[20:31] <mzawieska> jrib, how can i check what is my local ip
[20:32] <jrib> mzawieska: ifconfig
[20:32] <Bigshot_> how to install ATI Radeon HD 3200 in Karmic 9.10 Kernel?? what should the xorg.conf be?
[20:32] <trism> tanath: no idea
[20:32] <Random832> (output when running lsb_release with no argument)
[20:32] <acad2> what happened to the ability to right click on a file and add it to an archive in ubuntu? neither 9.04 or 9.10 let me do that
[20:32] <quinten> i tried doing a apt-get purge mysql-server, but i still can't reinstall. any suggestions on how to debug this?
[20:32] <tanath> Xgates, doesn't always work like that
[20:32] <mebigfatguy> guntbert: thanks -- seemed to work
[20:32] <hackbench> jken146, ah i see, checked that but missed ipv4 settings section, thanks
[20:32] <tanath> Xgates, and no. not necessarily
[20:32] <zvacet> chinmaya : it could be because servers are busy  everybody want Karmic
[20:32] <guntbert> mebigfatguy: np :)
[20:32] <mzawieska> jrib, this is the 192.168.1.6
[20:32] <typhoon22> mzawieska: open a terminal applications->accessories->terminal then type ifconfig
[20:32] <jrib> mzawieska: ok
[20:32] <almoxarife> is there a workaround for getting the sound applet to work when alsa is the default sound?
[20:32] <guntbert> Random832: try lsb_release -a
[20:32] <Juzzy> Random832 just add -a
[20:33] <chinmaya> zvacet, i didn't understand what do u mean ??
[20:33] <newuser901> anyone can answer me plz? thx
[20:33] <Bigshot_> how to install ATI Radeon HD 3200 "driver" in Karmic 9.10 Kernel?? what should the xorg.conf be?
[20:33] <newuser901> ps even in pm
[20:33] <Random832> guntbert, yeah but it's still confusing. what is a lsb module and where can i get one?
[20:33] <mzawieska> jrib, so just type smbsmb://localhost/196.192.1.6
[20:33] <guntbert> !please | newuser901
[20:33] <Morydd> penguin42: both show swfdec-mozilla
[20:33] <tanath> penguin42, didn't see the link
[20:33] <newuser901> !please
[20:34] <Bigshot_> guntbert: can you answer my question?
[20:34] <Xgates> tanath: I mean no offense, but newbies shouldn't be filing bugs for many reasons and the fact they can't figure out their tools to do so, proves one point, PLUS what one person sees as a bug with no experience typically ends up being user error many times, anyhow.....
[20:34] <zvacet> chinmaya . sorry  I probably  didn´t understans what are you asking ignore me
[20:34] <penguin42> Morydd: I'd try removing that
[20:34] <guntbert> Random832: see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=424432
[20:34] <Juzzy> Random832 it requires an argument: http://www.unixtutorial.org/commands/lsb_release/
[20:34] <Juzzy> lol guntbert, jinx twice
[20:34] <chinmaya> hi, data transfers for my pendrive are very slow at 4MB/sec ? does anyone know a fix to jaunty?
[20:34] <penguin42> tanath: See the bit Filing bugs at launchpad.net
[20:34] <jrib> mzawieska: no: smb://just_the_ip
[20:34] <alecwh> !torrents
[20:35] <tanath> Xgates, ok, it's debatable, sure - i take your point. but there are reasons why it should not be this way. the change is ill-advised
[20:35] <Random832> or maybe someone who is experienced with the thing they're filing a bug against shouldn't _also_ have to be an expert in bug-filing tools to file a bug
[20:35] <guntbert> Bigshot_: sorry, no
[20:35] <mzawieska> jrib, without local host?
[20:35] <jrib> mzawieska: correct
[20:35] <Bigshot_> how to install ATI Radeon HD 3200 "driver" in Karmic 9.10 Kernel?? what should the xorg.conf be?
[20:35] <newuser901> gunbert
[20:35] <Thoku> I seem to be getting video play back issues which can be tracked to a Karmic/NVidia official issue
[20:35] <Random832> Juzzy, says you. If no options are given, the -v option is assumed.
[20:35] <mzawieska> jrib,  is the a wait to set it up automatically as soon as the computer is restarted
[20:36] <newuser901> what must i do to be answered exactly? ^^
[20:36] <Thoku> are there any work arounds
[20:36] <Thoku> ?
[20:36] <epinky> newuser901: sudo more /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[20:36] <guntbert> !patience | newuser901
[20:36] <jrib> mzawieska: yes, this is just a troubleshooting step
[20:36] <newuser901> aw eheh
[20:36] <Random832> the question is what exactly a "LSB Module" actually _is_ (not answered), and why is -v a useless option on ubuntu
[20:36] <mzawieska> jrib, let me check it
[20:36] <chinmaya> hi, data transfers for my pendrive are very slow at 4MB/sec ? does anyone know a fix to jaunty?
[20:36] <mzawieska> jrib, brb
[20:36] <malikkite> bye
[20:37] <Xgates> tanath: oh yeah don't get me wrong the tools should possibly be made to be easier to do so, but again, people with no experience shouldn't really bother, UNLESS they know for certain it's a problem, sure sometimes a problem can be easy to tell, other times a user is messing things up and doesn't have things setup or configured properly, etc....
[20:37] <fribuntu> petew: Hmm
[20:37] <jrib> mzawieska: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[20:37] <[manas]> how i can change so i can easy copy and delete in var/www directory ????
[20:37] <fribuntu> petew: Hard to say from here.
[20:37] <jrib> !permissions > [manas]
[20:37] <newuser901>  i upgraded to the new release but with my radeon 9200 and compiz on, the background disappears and all the effects go really slow.. anybody can help me fixin it? thx
[20:37] <chinmaya> hi, data transfers for my pendrive are very slow at 4MB/sec ? does anyone know a fix to jaunty?
[20:37] <fribuntu> petew: I have read on various sources that they got it running on linux. What are your symptoms?
[20:37] <tanath> Xgates, you're not thinking right... what if, for instance, your bug is in the bug reporting tool?
[20:38] <obiwan_> ey i'm trying to setup a router with qos, i have two fields : ip source address and ip destiantion address, in my two routers i have the same, i go tno idea what should i put in there, and the @@!~# manual isn't helpful at all either, so does anybody know please?
[20:38] <tanath> Xgates, or otherwise prevents it from running?
[20:38] <guntbert> !ot | tanath
[20:38] <tanath> Xgates, it's just plain stupid
[20:38] <typhoon22> tanath: AARRGGH! The damage report machine is damaged!!
[20:38] <Bigshot_> how to install ATI Radeon HD 3200 "driver" in Karmic 9.10 Kernel?? what should the xorg.conf be?
[20:38] <Xgates> tanath: yeah sure, bugs in the bug tool, that's a good one, but of course I was just talking outside that, I'm sure you know... :)
[20:38] <epinky> newuser901: what's on /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[20:39] <tanath> Xgates, then you missed my point
[20:39] <mzawieska> jrib, it works
[20:39] <Morydd> penguin42: removing that package seems to have done the trick. Thank you very much.
[20:39] <mzawieska> when i type the ip
[20:39] <newuser901> wait i'll tell you, thx for listen
[20:39] <penguin42> Morydd: No problem
[20:39] <|Porsche> anybody knows whats the deal with the hangup at 26% with a fresh install of 64bit koala?
[20:39] <jrib> mzawieska: cool, did you see ubottu's last link?
[20:39] <jrib> mzawieska: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[20:39] <mzawieska> jrib, no
[20:39] <mzawieska> jrib, thnx alot
[20:39] <shazzr> Hi. I just did an installation of 9.10 from scratch, and my video card won't use any resolutions higher than 800x600. It's an Nvidia Ti 4400. Any solutions?
[20:39] <Doctor-46> ciao a tutti
[20:39] <guntbert> !it | Doctor-46
[20:40] <petew> fribuntu: when I've just started up ubuntu, the internal speakers work and the sound card shows up in the sound manager. the headphone jack doesn't work though. at some point sound stops working on the internal speakers as well and the sound card disappears from the sound manager
[20:40] <newuser901> epinky no xorg had been created in that location O_o
[20:40] <jepson> I'm trying to install the beta install of Wine, but the installer freezes under "applying changes" and then it doesn't remove properly. Is there an altarnative route to installing/removing the software? I'm using Ubuntu software center.
[20:40] <mzawieska> jrib, i cant fallow this
[20:40] <newuser901> weird
[20:40] <jrib> mzawieska: why?
[20:40] <|Porsche> anybody knows whats the deal with the hangup at 26% with a fresh install of 64bit koala?
[20:40] <mzawieska> jrib, this is to complicated well i am just sharing from linux to linux
[20:40] <petew> fribuntu: if I restart the system the speakers start working again but the headphone jack remains silent
[20:40] <jrib> mzawieska: take your time and read it
[20:41] <mzawieska> jrib, thnx
[20:41] <Xgates> tanath: sorry if you were talking about a bug in the bug tool and that was your point, mine was simplying being experienced to move past that and go onto the next step if there is one and if you don't know there is, then you shouldn't be bothering, because if you don't know or can't figure it out, well don't bother....
[20:41] <epinky> newuser901: sudo lspci -nn | grep VGA
[20:41] <shazzr> I tried with all te glx-drivers, and the 96-version gives me higher resolutions...but then Compiz won't work properly.
[20:41] <IndyGunFreak> shazzr: did you enable the restricted driver?
[20:41] <docmax> ok, there are a lot of windows
[20:41] <g-hennux> hi!
[20:41] <docmax> ok, there are a lot of windows
[20:41] <g-hennux> anyone here on 9.10 who's still able to mount nfs drives?
[20:41] <belguinha> boas tardes~
[20:41] <erUSUL> !br | belguinha boas tardes
[20:42] <jrib> mzawieska: maybe just creating a bookmark in nautilus is good enough for you, I don't know
[20:42] <g-hennux> my ubuntu virtual machines ("virtual flavour") can't mount nfs any more.
[20:42] <shazzr> IndyGunFreak: yes. It worked with the 96-version...but them Compiz wouldn't play along...
[20:42] <Fager> This is the second time my buttons for the volume stops responding in 9.10... This is a hp nc6000 laptop
[20:42] <docmax> ok, there are a lot of "windows-engines" qt3 qt4 gtk1 gtk2 ... where do i edit them (window skins)? and which other are there?
[20:42] <[manas]> jrib, em i getting it right user@host:/home/user$ ls -2 /var/www
[20:42] <mzawieska> jrib, what that could do/
[20:42] <jrib> [manas]: no
[20:42] <g-hennux> kernel is "2.6.31-14-generic-pae", might that be the problem?
[20:42] <lorenzosu> How can I installs the kde 3.5 libs only for compiling a program based on kde 3.5?
[20:42] <IndyGunFreak> shazzr: hmm, dunno...i don't do compiz.
[20:42] <Dasda> whats the best way to mount a iso in ubuntu?
[20:42] <jrib> mzawieska: give you a bookmark in nautilus (shortcut on the side bar) to your share
[20:43] <jordy240> hi
[20:43] <jrib> !iso | Dasda
[20:43] <alberto> hey guys i'm unable to write to an external WD hard drive, i can browse the files but can't delete them. Anyone can help?
[20:43] <chinmaya> hi, data transfers for my pendrive are very slow at 4MB/sec ? does anyone know a fix to jaunty?
[20:43] <UglyBear> Does anyone know a small media player I can install on an external HDD? Or one that is a simple .exe file?
[20:43] <tanath> Xgates, my point was that you shouldn't rely on a bug tool, and force people to use it, because it can be counter-productive. it's not always even possible (like if x won't run)
[20:43] <Dasda> oh nice jrib thanks
[20:43] <jrib> UglyBear: ubuntu doesn't use .exe
[20:43] <erUSUL> chinmaya: do you expect more from a pen drive ?
[20:43] <SetiAmon> hi
[20:43] <jrib> alberto: what filesystem?
[20:43] <Dasda> jrib: to use that command i would have to first navigate to the locating dir in terminal right?
[20:44] <chinmaya> erUSUL, ofcource it should be around 20MB/s
[20:44] <mzawieska> jrib, i want to create llike a shortcut
[20:44] <shazzr> The thing is that it worked perfect earlier today after I upgraded from 9.04. But after a fresh install from CD it gives me issues with the gfx. Irritating...
[20:44] <mzawieska> like u could do in windows
[20:44] <alberto> jrib: FAT
[20:44] <[manas]> jrib, sorry man bu i cant undertand can u tell me a comand
[20:44] <Xgates> tanath: but apport-bug is a bug tool CLI, so that was my point, don't seeing any being forced over that....
[20:44] <jrib> Dasda: well you can just give the path, something like: mount /foo/bar/blah /some/other/foo
[20:44] <jordy240> I don't want to touch any partition. I just want to use the freespace. As you can see in the screenshot: http://imgur.com/9QIzZ.jpg how can it wants to use the ENTIRE disk? that's not the option I selected
[20:44] <jepson> Anyone else having problems installing ttf-mscorefonts-installer (3.0)? I can't resolve downloads.sourceforge.net it seems... Weird since I can in firefox
[20:44] <fribuntu> petew: I am sorry, I cannot help you any further with that issue. Seems to be a buggy configuration more than a driver issue. But I am not sure. Try opening a bug and hope for the best. Good luck.
[20:44] <SetiAmon> I upgraded to karmic koala from jaunty and now my sound is messed up.staticy sound.Xfi  sound card.worked previously with my xfi drivers from creative but that doesn't seem to work anymore
[20:44] <jrib> [manas]: there is no magical command.  It depends on what you want to do.  So take the time to carefully read that page and understand it
[20:44] <ice83> hi all, I am wondering if there is a application for HD fixing?, I have a problem with HD
[20:45] <[manas]> jrib, sudo chmod 777 var/www like this???
[20:45] <Bigshot_> how to install ATI Radeon HD 3200 "driver" in Karmic 9.10 Kernel?? what should the xorg.conf be?
[20:45] <jrib> mzawieska: try creating a bookmark in nautilus then
[20:45] <mzawieska> jrib, yea i want to have the shortcut in the desktop of the folder i am sharing
[20:45] <nimro> Hi all, how does one recreate /var/log structure (keep getting 'Structure needs cleaning' errors ..)? TIA
[20:45] <zvacet> again can somebody help me with http://paste.ubuntu.com/306164/
[20:45] <Dasda> lol ok jrib, is there app though that makes it easier? like daemon tools for windows?
[20:45] <tanath> Xgates, mm, good point. anyway, got a warning and am trying to focus on bug reporting
[20:45] <jrib> [manas]: /var/www, not var/www.  That would give EVERYONE all rights
[20:45] <fribuntu> ice83: if the HDD is broken, unfortunately it cannot be fixed by software.
[20:45] <chinmaya> erUSUL, what will u say ? :(
[20:45] <jrib> Dasda: yes, there is a nautilus script (I do not know its name offhand though)
[20:45] <[manas]> jrib, i need just for me
[20:45] <guntbert> g-hennux: is your VM on NAT?
[20:45] <petew> fribuntu: Aww, ok. Thanks anyway, will keep searching for a solution
[20:45] <fribuntu> ice83: If you want to get data off that drive
[20:46] <jrib> [manas]: guess you should read that page then
[20:46] <jordy240> I don't want to touch any partition. I just want to use the freespace. As you can see in the screenshot: http://imgur.com/9QIzZ.jpg how can it wants to use the ENTIRE disk? that's not the option I selected
[20:46] <g-hennux> guntbert: sorry?
[20:46] <mzawieska> jrib, what is the command?
[20:46] <fribuntu> ice83: There is a special version of "dd" that does not stop in case of read errors.
[20:46] <Dasda> ok jrib, ill try google and osalt
[20:46] <g-hennux> guntbert: it's created with kvm and libvirt
[20:46] <[manas]> jrib, ok brb going to read
[20:46] <jrib> mzawieska: no command, just go to the bookmarks menu in nautilus
[20:46] <ice83> friubuntu: it is not broken, when I made some partition it start to show error, I wan to try to fix scanind it or something
[20:46] <jrib> alberto: pastebin the output of « mount »
[20:46] <Deihmos> getting like 10KB download sped
[20:46] <guntbert> g-hennux: sorry, I assumed virtual box :)
[20:46] <g-hennux> guntbert: seems like the problem is there is simply no nfs module in the kernel...
[20:46] <jordy240> is ubuntu's installer broken in 8.10 ?
[20:47] <jrib> jordy240: no?
[20:47] <fearthenofear> What is the pro's of going from 9.04 to 9.10
[20:47] <tigerswan> Hi all , help please my upgrade from 9.4 to 9.10 ended with a loop at the start up page. I can get to  root but have no knowledge of command line . After reading posts I feel that a clean installation may be better for me but will I lose my files doing this?
[20:47] <fribuntu> ice83: It is called "ddrescue". Oh well, he left.
[20:47] <jordy240> jrib: I don't want to touch any partition. I just want to use the freespace. As you can see in the screenshot: http://imgur.com/9QIzZ.jpg how can it wants to use  the ENTIRE disk? that's not the option I selected
[20:47] <guntbert> g-hennux: does showmount -e <targethost> work?
[20:47] <ice83> friubuntu: dd?, what is that?
[20:47] <guntbert> !ot | fearthenofear
[20:47] <|Porsche> anybody knows whats the deal with the hangup at 26% with a fresh install of 64bit koala? I think it has to do with the encrypted home
[20:47] <zvacet> jordy240 : try with manual way
[20:47] <erUSUL> chinmaya: well i get 5-4 MB/s from mine so i think is a good mark. Very good pendrives vcan get 7 MB/s (i'm talking flash based pendrives)
[20:47] <g-hennux> guntbert: yes
[20:47] <mebigfatguy> tigerswan: startx
[20:48] <jordy240> zvacet: I am not tech savy. Is this a bug with ubuntu's isntaller?
[20:48] <jrib> jordy240: weird, why are you using such an old version though?
[20:48] <fribuntu> ice83: dd (or ddrescue) dumps raw data.
[20:48] <fribuntu> ice83: But I see you have a different issue.
[20:48] <ice83> friubuntu: is that a application?
[20:48] <g-hennux> guntbert: but "dpkg -L linux-image-2.6.31-14-virtual | grep nfs" shows nothing
[20:48] <fribuntu> ice83: dd and ddrescue are programs, yes.
[20:48] <ice83> let me show you the issue..
[20:48] <jordy240> jrib: isn't this just 2nd to  last verion? and the latest version was releast yesterday?
[20:48] <SetiAmon> going from 9.04 to 9.10 has messed up my audio.not to mention half my apps are not working but one thing at a time
[20:49] <mzawieska> jrib, i have no idea how to do it..:< i am such a noobie LOl
[20:49] <chinmaya> erUSUL, dude this is USB2.0 and ... i'm very sorry to mention in XP it goes around 20-25MB/s
[20:49] <jrib> jordy240: in 6 months 8.10 won't be supported any more
[20:49] <jrib> mzawieska: go to your nautilus where you typed smb://blahblah before and then Bookmark -> Add bookmark or similar
[20:49] <stinky> is it safe to add SDLmame repository to ubuntu 9.04?
[20:49] <stinky> http://sdlmame.wallyweek.org/repository/
[20:49] <Bigshot_> how to install ATI Radeon HD 3200 "driver" in Karmic 9.10 Kernel?? what should the xorg.conf be?
[20:49] <jordy240> jrib: zvacet this is a bug with ubuntu, right?
[20:49] <erUSUL> chinmaya: then you have a better pendrive than mine ;)
[20:49] <guntbert> g-hennux: well, here under virtualbox mounting nfs shares works  - but you are obviously more advanced than I am - so I'll keep quiet :)
[20:49] <mzawieska> jrib, oh okay
[20:49] <nimro> After upgrading jaunty to karmic i get error messages stating that /var/log structure needs cleaning .. Any pointers as to how to achieve that are very welcome
[20:49] <mebigfatguy> fearthenofear: stay with 9.04 for a couple of weeks till things get ironed out
[20:50] <alberto> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/306199/
[20:50] <jrib> jordy240: sure it's at least a bug with the way it displays what it is going to do, maybe more.  Use a more recent version would be my advice
[20:50] <zvacet> jordy240 : from what I ssaw you can select to install on free space that is not  bug
[20:50] <[manas]> jrib, user@host:/home/user$ chmod u+x file1 ????
[20:50] <SporkWitch> mebigfatguy: sure, now i hear that, lol; just got here, but would the reason you say that be related to it not being able to use my laptop's keyboard or touchpad, heh?
[20:50] <jrib> [manas]: that would give the owner of file1 executable access... probably not what you want.
[20:50] <jordy240> zvacet: but the diagram of the disk says that selecting "use ONLY free space" means to ubuntu "use ENTIRE disk"
[20:51] <chinmaya> erUSUL, may be ..... but i've been waiting for a fix for this for ages, posted in Ubuntuforums , had long discussions, but no use !! U can check it at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1293336
[20:51] <modder> can you help me with youtube? i''m not able to watch youtube videos! i don't know how to solve this problem.. but i think there is something wrong with the flash player.. any suggestion???
[20:51] <en1gma> does anyone know if "Majic Jack" phone service can work in ubuntu yet?
[20:51] <mebigfatguy> sporkwitch: one of many things that happen when a new release comes out.
[20:51] <ice83> friubuntu: Count of remapped sectors. When the hard drive finds a read/write/verification error. it marks the sector as "reallocated" and transfers data to special reserved area (spare area)
[20:51] <mebigfatguy> sporkwitch: there are usually fixes for most things, but in a month, you won't have to deal with most of them.
[20:51] <jordy240> jrib: is it risky to install ubuntu by usb?
[20:51] <Doctor-46> we sera qualquno italiano ?
[20:51] <jrib> jordy240: I have yet to do so, but it should work fine
[20:51] <[manas]> jrib, i need not file folder so i if i change i file to var/www will be the same??
[20:51] <jrib> !install > jordy240
[20:51] <jken146> !it | Docteh
[20:52] <jken146> !it | Doctor-46
[20:52] <rance> can somebody help me if they know python plz pm me!!
[20:52] <ice83> friubuntu: the name of the error is: Reallocated sector count
[20:52] <eeepc> hello, where can i get desktop-switcher on ubuntu nbr karmic ? i cannot find it on synaptic.
[20:52] <Doctor-46> grz
[20:52] <guntbert> !pm | rance
[20:52] <jrib> [manas]: you will be giving executable rights to the owner.  But the owner is root by default and he already has them.
[20:52] <zeegeek> hi, I just installed Karmic. I'm experiencing a noticable lag whenever I move the mouse cursor fast, or watch youtube. It's like that the system pause for a fraction of a second every once in a while. I didn't have this issue in previous versions.
[20:52] <ajhtiredwolf> Running ubuntu 9.10, recieving the error when loading apparmor * AppArmor not available as kernel LSM. failed
[20:52] <xrandr> ok, anyone here have any experience using Audacity on ubuntu?
[20:52] <vigo> en1gma: Far as I read they do not have a Linux ready setup yet, keep hounding them , but be polite.
[20:52] <fantomas> Hi all. Which tool can display how processes use network? Some bandwidth is eaten by some process, but I have no idea how to see staticstics
[20:52] <jordy240> thanks jrib
[20:52] <|Porsche> anybody knows whats the deal with the hangup at 26% with a fresh install of 64bit koala? I think it has to do with the encrypted home
[20:52] <ice83> friubuntu: do you think if I format the HDD it can be solve?, any special format?
[20:52] <SporkWitch> mebigfatguy: guess just bad timing on my part, then; buddy swears up and down by ubuntu, figured i'd give it a shot since i'd heard it usually sees most laptop stuff out of the box, but yeah, once the GUI loads (which takes about 10-15 minutes, no exageration), i get no response from keyboard or touchpad (not even the numlock indicator, when i hit numlock), and it eventually puts itself to sleep due to lack of input
[20:52] <en1gma> "Majic Jack" and Linux anyobe?
[20:52] <en1gma> anyone?
[20:53] <zvacet> jordy240 :  no if you select guided use entire disc that will erase all your previous partitions
[20:53] <[manas]> jrib, so i need to give if it to the group??
[20:53] <jrib> alberto: /media/windows is what you are trying to write to?
[20:53] <dinoman1989> Upgrading from 9.04 to 9.10 broke my wifi; i'm using a AR5212 802.11abg NIC in a lenovo T61.  Whenever I try to ifconfig wlan0 up I get "SIOCSIFFLAGS: Unknown error 132"  Anyone have any ideas?
[20:53] <musikgoat1> en1gma: someone else asked about that way back, there was a forum thread about it
[20:53] <mebigfatguy> sporkwitch: fresh install or upgrade?
[20:53] <vigo> en1gma: It is not ready yet.
[20:53] <jrib> [manas]: no.  What do you want to accomplish *exactly*?
[20:53] <SporkWitch> en1gma: no idea, but skype should work perfectly fine, and i think is cheaper
[20:53] <en1gma> musikgoat1 i googled and it didnt return anything with an ubuntu forum
[20:53] <SporkWitch> mebigfatguy: livecd, didn't even try to install yet, because i haven't decided yet
[20:53] <guntbert> rance: and there is #python too :)
[20:54] <nitesh> I cannot connect to my wifi (wpa) after upgrading to karmic, I am checking system log entries and cant make anything meaningful out of them. How can I solve this ?
[20:54] <[manas]> jrib, i just want copy and paste delete in var/www
[20:54] <darrenoc> just installed 9.10 amd64
[20:54] <mebigfatguy> sporkwitch: livecd: good thinking :) wait a couple of weeks then
[20:54] <darrenoc> and it cant find any drivers for my gfx card
[20:54] <darrenoc> 8400M GS
[20:54] <jrib> [manas]: do you have more than one user on that computer?
[20:54] <SetiAmon> anyone having sound problems with karmic?
[20:54] <zvacet> SporkWitch : you can not upgrade with live cd
[20:54] <jrib> [manas]: or more than one user that needs to do that...?
[20:54] <SporkWitch> mebigfatguy: heh, been using Gentoo and FreeBSD off and on since i was a kid, i know better than to slap a new distro on without a test drive :P
[20:54] <scottj> If I'm running gnome-settings-daemon but not Gnome itself (I'm using another window manager) then are usb drives automounted and if not how can I get them to be?
[20:54] <vigo> GNU/FSF is currently working on a Land Line Phone, they are asking for help also, so look at fsf.org
[20:54] <modder> guys if i upgrade my 9.04 ubuntu, will i lose my hd data?
[20:55] <mebigfatguy> modder: upgrade no, fresh install yes
[20:55] <Exy> Hello?
[20:55] <jrib> modder: no (but you should have backups anyway)
[20:55] <alberto> jrib: sorry the external disk was not plugged http://paste.ubuntu.com/306204/ its My Passport-1
[20:55] <[manas]> jrib, no it only me i got one more user but only for samba
[20:55] <SporkWitch> zvacet: it's a brand  new laptop, pre-installed with win7, i'm not upgrading, i'm using the x86_64 arch iso linked in the "desktopand laptop" download page
[20:55] <SporkWitch> zvacet: and then using the "try without changing anything" option at boot
[20:55] <darrenoc> Guys, just installed 9.10 amd64.. It cant find drivers for my 8400M GS
[20:55] <jrib> alberto: ls -ld '/media/My Passport-1'
[20:55] <happyface> How can I use a USB keyboard media controls in koala?
[20:55] <en1gma> i already got the majic jack thing....it is currently on my gaming computer with vista... thing is....its my gaming computer and it is causing me to drop frame rate.....i dont have any other OS that it will work with...i have win98 and winme and ubuntu
[20:55] <modder> mebigfatguy: and it can be possible that i accidently lose them?
[20:55] <darrenoc> 9.04 32bit worked fine
[20:55] <Dasda> I munted the new karmic 9.10 iso using gISOMount. However, it does not autorun. How cna i make it run?
[20:55] <Exy> Hey, im a brand  new user to this distribution is there a newbie specific channel?
[20:56] <mebigfatguy> modder: anythings possible - but unlikely - should create a backup anytime you upgrade tho
[20:56] <jrib> Dasda: what do you want to do with it?
[20:56] <guntbert> !hi | Exy
[20:56] <erUSUL> Exy: no; this is th eonly support channel. apprt from the Local ones
[20:56] <jrib> Exy: this one!  Also take a look at help.ubuntu.com
[20:56] <alberto> jrib: drwxr-xr-x 14 alberto root 32768 1969-12-31 20:00
[20:56] <modder> mebigfatguy: how could i create a backup?
[20:56] <darrenoc> Ok one more try. I just installed 9.10 AMD64 and it cant find drivers for my 8400M GS. It worked fine in 9.04 i386
[20:56] <Dasda> jrib, upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10
[20:56] <darrenoc> What gives?
[20:56] <jrib> alberto: and you are user "alberto"?
[20:56] <jrib> Dasda: is this the alternate cd?
[20:56] <mebigfatguy> modder: you want to save off /home/modder to dvd or such
[20:56] <Exy> Ok, im haveing issues getting my distribution to accses my isp
[20:57] <en1gma> they must be working on a driver...(majic jack people say it will be out in early 2010) but i was thinking there is prob a beta driver somewhere if the right people cant point me to it
[20:57] <Dasda> jrib: ubuntu-9.10-desktop-i386
[20:57] <zeegeek> anyone else experiencing the lag program on Karmic?
[20:57] <darrenoc> :(
[20:57] <musikgoat1> en1gma: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=511689
[20:57] <modder> mebigfatguy: i''d like to save a copy on my hard drive.. i have no discs actually
[20:57] <jrib> Dasda: you can't use that disk to upgrade.
[20:57] <zvacet> SporkWitch : O.K. then if you like it install it you will be wall come to this comunity
[20:57] <darrenoc> anyone?
[20:57] <Dasda> oh
[20:57] <jrib> !upgrade > Dasda
[20:57] <musikgoat1> first link when i search for ubuntu majicjack
[20:57] <en1gma> will the majic jack driver be in a newer kernel?
[20:57] <CopyWriter> guys (i've noticed when it comes to kde and gnome) that i have more crashes with kde, i don't want to start any off topic discussions, has anyone else noticed this
[20:57] <ChrisH> anyone sucessfull using ubuntu 9.10 on an asus eeepc 1000H? installed kubuntu and it fails after entering the users password.... That user is a local user, same with nis users and autofs'ed $HOME. all over WLAN.
[20:57] <mebigfatguy> modder: hd isn't a good idea
[20:57] <darrenoc> Ok one more try. I just installed 9.10 AMD64 and it cant find drivers for my 8400M GS. It worked fine in 9.04 i386, what gives?
[20:58] <en1gma> musikgoat1 checking....i checked "majic jack linux"
[20:58] <mebigfatguy> modder: unless have external and can unplug
[20:58] <Xgates> darrenoc: are you using the hardware software tool?
[20:58] <CopyWriter> i've used them both over the last year or so and i'm leaning strongly to gnome
[20:58] <darrenoc> Xgates I think so
[20:58] <jrib> alberto: ?
[20:58] <en1gma> brb googling
[20:58] <Admiral_Chicago> my network manager icon has disappeared from my panel, any quick way to get it back?
[20:58] <Xgates> darrenoc: System->Administration->Hardware Drivers
[20:58] <darrenoc> Xgates "No proprietrary drivers in use on this system"
[20:58] <darrenoc> Xgates yep
[20:58] <modder> mebigfatguy: well, in the case i'd like to create a backup copy on my hd, in which format should i save my backup?
[20:58] <Xgates> darrenoc: ok open Synaptic
[20:58] <vigo> darrenoc_: Is Universe and Restricted enabled?
[20:58] <darrenoc> Xgates apt-get will do
[20:59] <mebigfatguy> modder: doesn't matter
[20:59] <darrenoc> vigo good point
[20:59] <[manas]> jrib, so i should do sudo chmod 777 /var/www ?? if it only me who is use in
[20:59] <jarle> After upgrading to Ubuntu 9.10 I am unable to access my samba shares on the updated machine. Anybody experienced the same?
[20:59] <xiong> My entire system seems to slow down at unpredictable times; when it does, this persists until I close a lot of things; it's not clear that it matters which. At first, I thought things were eating CPU time and that may be so -- but I notice that memory is nearly full and swap space totally unused. I wonder if there's a connection (since lack of memory is worse than a slow processor for overall system speed) and if so, what I can do to make my system utilize s
[20:59] <xiong> wap properly?)
[20:59] <mebigfatguy> modder: zip it if you like
[20:59] <alberto> jrib: drwxr-xr-x 14 alberto root 32768 1969-12-31 20:00
[20:59] <Dasda> thanks jrib for the alternate cd info.
[20:59] <SporkWitch> zvacet: lol, you're missing the point, lol.  i'm TRYING to try it, lol, but i'm running into an issue where modprobe returns an error, and it won't use the laptop's touch pad, keyboard, my 2.4GHz wireless keyboard or mouse (USB receiver), or bluetooth keyboard or mouse (also USB receiver).  but yeah, it's sounding like it may be due to latest version; to be expected, in any case, laptops are always a nightmare thanks to proprietary tech
[20:59] <erUSUL> [manas]: chmod 777 is never the answer
[20:59] <Random832> what's a good program to calibrate a gamepad
[20:59] <modder> mebigfatguy; right
[20:59] <Xgates> darrenoc: I wanted you to look in Synaptic to see what is installed, is all for Nvida
[20:59] <Bigshot_> how to install ATI Radeon HD 3200 "driver" in Karmic 9.10 Kernel?? what should the xorg.conf be?
[20:59] <alberto> jrib: sorry yeap
[20:59] <jarle> The shares are there, but the username/pw doesn't work anymore..
[20:59] <alberto> jrib: i am alberto
[20:59] <darrenoc> Xgates oh okay I thought you wanted me to install something
[20:59] <jrib> [manas]: that will work, but it's kind of ugly.  I would create a new group called www-editors, chgrp /var/www to www-editors and then give group write permissions on it
[21:00] <Xgates> darrenoc: no just looking for now...
[21:00] <Random832> i need to make the dead zone bigger
[21:00] <Dantheman> can anyone help?
[21:00] <jrib> alberto: what does « touch /media/'My Passport-1'/test » return?
[21:00] <Xgates> darrenoc: also as vigo said is Universe and Restricted enabled?
[21:00] <jrib> !ask | Dantheman
[21:00] <Loafers> When I run a program in the terminal, how do I bring back the prompt again?
[21:00] <Bigshot_> how to install ATI Radeon HD 3200 "driver" in Karmic 9.10 Kernel?? what should the xorg.conf be?
[21:00] <camadas> Guys what are programs are to use such as MSN ? We have Amsn and what others do we have ?
[21:01] <Loafers> Or how do I run a program in the background?
[21:01] <Bigshot_> jrib: answer my question man
[21:01] <Loafers> camadas, pidgin
[21:01] <darrenoc> Xgates see PM
[21:01] <mebigfatguy> Loafers: add & at end
[21:01] <ChrisH> xiong: I do nbot know how familiar you are with UNIXoid memory manafement, but unix'ish systems tend to use all avalibale memory.
[21:01] <camadas> Thanks
[21:01] <mebigfatguy> Loafers: will detach from terminal
[21:01] <alberto> jrib: "touch: cannot touch `/media/My Passport-1/test': Read-only file system
[21:01] <alberto> "
[21:01] <guntbert> Loafers: start the program with & appended (myprog &)
[21:01] <Loafers> mebigfatguy, space or no space?  also how do I see the list of processes
[21:01] <erUSUL> !im | camadas
[21:01] <jrib> Bigshot_: my bank account is kind of low ;)  nah, I don't know the answer, but check:
[21:01] <mebigfatguy> Loafers: add a space
[21:01] <Loafers> guntbert, ah okay thanks
[21:01] <jrib> !ati > Bigshot_
[21:01] <erUSUL> camadas: emesene and empathy
[21:01] <camadas> Thanks :D
[21:02] <jrib> alberto: check dmesg for anything interesting?
[21:02] <freevryheid> firefox plugins - should these be installed through firefox or apt?
[21:02] <[manas]> erUSUL, jrib  but sorry guys im really dont know what to do im not linux guru and i dont understand it at lot !!! and them u give me to read all of this toturials it doent say to me nothing im reading like nothing i know i can google it that why i came here so someone who knows can help me!
[21:02] <SetiAmon> xfi sound problems anyone?
[21:02] <IndyGunFreak> camadas: you could also try to use that trainwreck that ubuntu calls Empathy...lol
[21:02] <Loafers> mebigfatguy, let's say im already running a program, how would I make it run in the backgroudn?  also how can i see the list of background processes?
[21:02] <UbuntuGuy> hello friends
[21:02] <Timmymayes> Can anyone help me with a keyboard layout issue?
[21:02] <jrib> [manas]: please use periods...
[21:02] <guntbert> xiong: have a look at http://www.linuxatemyram.com/
[21:02] <UbuntuGuy> can any one help me !!!
[21:03] <mebigfatguy> Loafers: i don't know how to detach from console after it's launched: might be able to, i don't know
[21:03] <guntbert> !ask | UbuntuGuy
[21:03] <Loafers> mebigfatguy, ok thanks
[21:03]  * ajl59_ is struggling with a very odd desktop switcher bug. Using the desktop switcher applet has a different effect to using ctrl-alt-{left/right}. It's like I have a 4*4 grid of desktops.
[21:03] <UbuntuGuy> ok
[21:03] <mebigfatguy> Loafers: ps -ef                      lists processes
[21:03] <alberto> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/306208/
[21:03] <[manas]> jrib, can one user have one that one group??
[21:03] <jrib> [manas]: you should just put some effort into understanding that page ubottu gave you really.  You can understand it, but not with your current attitude that it's simply too difficult for you (that's not true).
[21:03] <UbuntuGuy> thank you <guntbert>
[21:03] <Loafers> mebigfatguy, ok thanks
[21:04] <jrib> [manas]: what?
[21:04] <ajl59_> also, using desktop switch applet makes the menubar vanish (which is why there are currently two of me - I can't get back to the other console
[21:04] <UbuntuGuy> i am new to ubuntu
[21:04] <balzac> hello
[21:04] <erUSUL> [manas]: a user can belong to as many groups as he/she wants
[21:04] <balzac> intel pro wireless 3945abg on ubuntu 8.10
[21:04] <balzac> i'm struggling
[21:04] <guntbert> UbuntuGuy: please state you question in *one* line
[21:04] <jrib> alberto: something to google then.  (You may consider reformatting if google turns nothing up on that error)
[21:04] <[manas]> jrib, english not my mother lunguege so belevme it very hard for me
[21:04] <UbuntuGuy> can we open private chat <guntbert>
[21:05] <jrib> [manas]: but I'm speaking in english to you :)
[21:05] <xiong> ChrisH, I don't object to memory being fully used. There is indeed some small amount free, which seems reasonable. But how else to account for the slowdown? I tend to suspect that when memory fills up (on my machine), applications are unloading and reloading subroutines when possible. Swap space is completely empty, all the time. I'd think the swapping process would be more efficient than application logic; that's what swap is for.
[21:05] <dinoman1989> I'm having trouble getting my wifi to work after upgrading from 9.04 to 9.10 on my lenovo t61.  My wireless card is an AR5212 802.11abg NIC.  When i try to ifconfig wlan0 up, I get SIOCSIFFLAGS: Unknown error 132
[21:05] <ajl59_> I'm using Jaunty (just upgraded last week, which is probably when the problem arose)
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[21:05] <guntbert> UbuntuGuy: please keep it in the channel
[21:05] <alberto> jrib: well, thanks, i will check on google
[21:05] <dinoman1989> HALP!
[21:05] <balzac> I also have an atheros chip I can install, in addition to a pcmcia slot 3com card, none of which I am able to install
[21:05] <UbuntuGuy> ok
[21:05] <r00to3> My netbook is dimming every 10 mins, i changed the option to not do it, but it still does?
[21:05] <ChrisH> anyone sucessfull using ubuntu 9.10 on an asus eeepc 1000H? installed kubuntu and it fails after entering the users password.... That user is a local user, same with nis users and autofs'ed $HOME. all over WLAN. .... strange is, from ps all relevant kde processes seem to run. Even I cannot see anyting on the tty7
[21:05] <UbuntuGuy> do you know openmpi
[21:05] <balzac> what should I use, intel pro wireless 3945abg or atheros internal chip?
[21:05] <guntbert> and UbuntuGuy no need for the < ... >, and see !tab
[21:06] <Bigshot_> jrib: there is no info. for 9.10 karmic
[21:06] <balzac> i've got three pieces of network hardware to choose from and they're all hellish to set up
[21:06] <en1gma> i never used a vmware before...im reading about using wmware to do windows xp....does that mean i need files off an original windows xp for vmware to emulate it?
[21:06]  * Dekko wonders how to delete a defunct icon theme from appearance settings? It shows up with a questionmark next to it, and won't be removed.
[21:06] <heatherRm> hello i've just updated to karmic and i can't log into xubuntu with my main account so i'm using my backup, I'm assuming that it's my display settings. how do i reset them from this account?
[21:06] <vigo> UbuntuGuy: Do you have the New to Ubuntu pdf?
[21:06] <[manas]> jrib, yes but this toturial they in english and they use some prarses which for me is hard to understand, sorry if i sonded rude or something im just here frastrating for atlist couple hours
[21:06] <UbuntuGuy> hello
[21:06] <erUSUL> balzac: intel and atheros  wifi chips have good support in linux (arguabily the best)
[21:06] <jrib> [manas]: basically a file has associated to it an OWNER and a GROUP.  Users that are neither the owner nor in the group are OTHERS.  Each of OWNER, GROUP, and OTHERS can have READ, WRITE, and EXECUTABLE permissions (that's 3x3=9 combinations).  You can change the OWNER and the GROUP as well as permissions for all 3 groups.
[21:07] <balzac> erUSUL: I'm ready to give it a whirl. I had each of them working once upon a time
[21:07] <xiong> Other users seem to have hit this "no swapping" problem, e.g.: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=704616
[21:07] <chinmaya> erUSUL, may be ..... but i've been waiting for a fix for this for ages, posted in Ubuntuforums , had long discussions, but no use !! U can check it at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1293336
[21:07] <dinoman1989> balzac, do you know something about getting atheros wifi chips to work?
[21:07] <balzac> i bought one because an upgrade broke the other
[21:07] <chinmaya> hi, data transfers for my pendrive are very slow at 4MB/sec ? does anyone know a fix to jaunty?
[21:07] <balzac> dinoman1989: currently the intel chip is installed
[21:07] <balzac> maybe i should install the atheros chip
[21:08] <ChrisH> xiong: In that case I use vmstat, iostat top to get an idea of what happes. check the load. I saw such  a bahviout with USB transfers increasing the load.
[21:08] <dinoman1989> balzac, what atheros do you have?
[21:08] <obiwan_> ey i'm trying to setup a router with qos, i have two fields : ip source address and ip destiantion address, in my two routers i have the same, i go tno idea what should i put in there, and the @@!~# manual isn't helpful at all either, so does anybody know please?
[21:08] <obiwan_> please just a quick help :$
[21:08] <lorenzosu> How can I installs the kde 3.5 libs only for compiling a program based on kde 3.5?
[21:08] <balzac> dinoman1989: i'll start with that. I'll open up my computer and install it
[21:08] <UbuntuGuy> Hello can any one help me !! using (OpemMPI)
[21:09] <lorenzosu> !help | UbuntuGuy
[21:09] <sebsebseb> lorenzosu: Which version of Ubuntu?
[21:09] <Dekko> can someone please help me with the problem with the icon theme?
[21:09] <lorenzosu> sebsebseb: 9.04
[21:09] <erUSUL> UbuntuGuy: offtopic and too advenced for this channel. ask in a progrmming oriented one
[21:09] <sebsebseb> !kde |  lorenzosu
[21:09] <sebsebseb> wrong one
[21:10] <sebsebseb> !kde3  |  lorenzosu
[21:10] <erUSUL> lorenzosu: what do you want to build ? is not in the repos ?
[21:10] <lorenzosu> erUSUL: No. It's testing stuff.
[21:10] <sebsebseb> lorenzosu: There's the KDE 3  remix CD  for 9.04, but there's also a ppa that can be added
[21:10] <balzac> dinoman1989: broadcom internal pci
[21:10] <SliMM> hello
[21:11] <SliMM> does ubuntu one work with distributions other than ubuntu as well?
[21:11] <lorenzosu> sebsebseb: I'm running gnome and only have the kde libs for kde stuff installed.
[21:11] <erUSUL> balzac: for broadcom you have to install while coneected to inet by other means the b43-fwcutter package
[21:11] <calaen0_> Is there a configuration option or method to tell a courier-pop3d server to not delete messages on the server for any user?
[21:11] <sebsebseb> lorenzosu: Have you installed the repo for KDE 3?
[21:11] <UbuntuGuy> how can i install openmpi & use it with synpatic package manager
[21:11] <sebsebseb> lorenzosu: the ppa I mean,  I guess not
[21:11] <lorenzosu> sebsebseb: I'm reading.
[21:11] <Joric> what's wrong with my computer ubuntu 9.10 always says out of range
[21:12] <Dasda> jrib: same thing. I have alternate cd mounted but its not autobooting
[21:12] <erUSUL> Joric: when trying to install ? tried with vga= options ?
[21:12] <erUSUL> !find openmpi
[21:12] <jrib> Dasda: it wouldn't.  Just use apt-cdrom yourself
[21:12] <Joric> it's a quite common lg flatron l1710 and 7600gs
[21:12] <SetiAmon> heck I'll just download and try a fresh install
[21:13] <xiong> ChrisH, Sorry, I'm not sure I follow that. I've only been using Linux for about a year; much is still new to me, although I have extensive tech background and a good feel for what's going on. I don't think swap is properly configured in the first place.
[21:13] <Joric> i wonder how they managed to break video drivers since 9.04
[21:13] <Dasda> jrib: what do I type in terminal to boot it?
[21:13] <jrib> Dasda: you don't boot it, you add it as a repository
[21:13] <[manas]> jrib, thanks i think i know and sorry again
[21:13] <camadas> Guys what is your advice on how much space should i give to the  / partition ?
[21:13] <jrib> Dasda: ubottu's link should explain this
[21:13] <jrib> [manas]: no need to be sorry!
[21:14] <jrib> camadas: between 10 and 30gb probably
[21:14] <erUSUL> camadas: 10-15 GiB
[21:14] <hinotf> hi all
[21:14] <UbuntuGuy> openmpi !!!! (HELP !!!)
[21:14] <Promethes> anyone having problems with switching youtube videos to fullscreen in karmic?
[21:14] <Joric> erUSUL, vga didn't work for me, textmode + nvidia glx 185
[21:14] <mebigfatguy> no sound: followed this: http://monespaceperso.org/blog-en/2009/10/29/upgrade-alsa-1-0-21-on-ubuntu-karmic-koala-9-10/comment-page-1/#comment-341       at the end shows 1.0.21 --- and sudo alsaconf says command not found.... and no sound .... grrr
[21:14] <jrib> UbuntuGuy: detailed questions!!! (Please !!!)
[21:14] <xiong> ChrisH, As I browse around, I see explanations of how to set up swap but they seem to disagree wildly.
[21:14] <Joric> it should be fixed imo
[21:14] <iaindalton> [manas]: I give myself 15G on a 160G HDD
[21:14] <camadas> So 20Gb to the /, 2Gb to the swap and 60Gb to the /home is more then enought ?
[21:14] <vigo> UbuntuGuy: Have you read the forums?
[21:14] <iaindalton> [manas]: If you have many games, though, you'll want more.
[21:14] <jrib> camadas: yeah, that sounds good
[21:15] <inx-mdg> Does anyone here use clive to dowload videos?  Any experience with watching in framebuffer?
[21:15] <erUSUL> camadas: yes
[21:15] <iaindalton> oops, a mean camadas not [manas]
[21:15] <thiebaude> camadas, sounds good
[21:15] <[manas]> iaindalton, it ok man
[21:15] <camadas> hehe :P
[21:15] <camadas> Thanks, but iaindalton for games i have the desktop
[21:15] <jrib> iaindalton: I think you want to target camadas , not [manas] ?
[21:15] <hinotf> network manager asked for passwrd after each logon
[21:15] <iaindalton> jrib: you're late ;-)
[21:15] <camadas> Since i have the linux on the laptop
[21:16] <jrib> iaindalton: :(
[21:16] <Dekko> isn't there anyone here who can help me with this issue?
[21:16] <jrib> !helpme | Dekko
[21:16] <hinotf> how can I prevent this?
[21:16] <msk> qq all
[21:16] <platius> UbuntuGuy, http://ubuntuforums.org/    you might find what you need foraging through here
[21:16] <jrib> hinotf: everyone who just read that has absolutely no clue what "this" is
[21:16] <Dasda> jrib: this did it gksu "sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade"
[21:16] <Dekko> jrib: do you know how to remove an icon theme entry from appearance settings that is no longer installed?
[21:16] <jrib> Dasda: good
[21:16] <hinotf> jrib: network manager asked for passwrd after each logon
[21:17] <jrib> Dekko: it must be installed, are you certain it is not?
[21:17] <guntbert> hinotf: does network manager ask for the password or does gnome-keyring ask for the passphrase?
[21:17] <xiong> ChrisH, One fellow had a mismatch between fstab and swapon -s but that doesn't seem to be my case.
[21:17] <iaindalton> hinotf: is it an encrypted network?
[21:17] <Dekko> jrib: I uninstalled it and it is gone, but the entry for it is not.
[21:17] <Enselic> I can't ping my new Ubuntu 9.10 box, but the Ubuntu 9.10 box can ping other computers on my local network, anyone know how to troubleshoot? I'm stuck
[21:17] <Dekko> jrib: there is a folder icon with a question mark next to it.
[21:17] <jrib> Dekko: how did you uninstall it?
[21:18] <Dekko> jrib: I selected 'Delete'.
[21:18] <ChrisH> enselic: netmask set correctly?
[21:18] <ajl59_> I have a problem with the workspace switch functionality. Hard to describe. I habitually use both the menu bar switcher applet and the ctrl-alt-{left/right} keystroke to change workspaces. If I use ctrl-alt-l/r, the visible programs change, but the applet still shows me as being on the same workspace. If I use the applet, the menu bars disappear (so I can't switch back) and I'm shown a completely different workspace.
[21:18] <jrib> Dekko: check your ~/.themes
[21:18] <Enselic> ChrisH: yes, ifconfig shows the correct netmask
[21:18] <rm200910> Hi. Is there a command line equivalent to double click in an explorer window? In cygwin/Windows I could do 'cygstart myfile.ext' and there may be something like that in ubunut/Gnome. Thanks
[21:18] <Dekko> jrib: themes empty.
[21:18] <Flannel> rm200910: gnome-open file
[21:18] <Enselic> ChrisH: and I can ping other computers, so it must be correct
[21:18] <ChrisH> enselic: firewall on the 9.10 box not allowing icmp from remote?
[21:18] <hinotf> yes, it's encrypted network, but applet network maanger asked for sudo password
[21:18] <Enselic> ChrisH: could be, how do I check?
[21:19] <rm200910> Flannel: Thanks! Works great
[21:19] <ChrisH> enselic: iptables -L
[21:19] <jrib> Dekko: you've closed Appearances and opened it again?
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[21:19] <jrib> UbuntuGuy: ?
[21:19] <happyface> How can I use a USB keyboard media controls in koala?
[21:20] <iaindalton> hinotf: That's because the network manager is storing the passwords for the networks in your keyring, which requires a password to access.
[21:20] <balzac> ok, i opened up the computer, took out the intel wireless and put in the atheros/broadcom
[21:20] <nsgn> argh! i'm trying to upgrade to 9.10 using the alternate ISO file mounted (rather than burned) on a computer without an internet connection. it fails every time complaining it can't connect to ubuntu's servers to fetch the ~1600 files needed. i told it NOT to use web upgrades.
[21:20] <mzawieska> jrib,  it worked man thank you
[21:20] <mikeru> ╻ ╻┏━╸╻  ╻  ┏━┓
[21:20] <mikeru> ┣━┫┣╸ ┃  ┃  ┃ ┃
[21:20] <mikeru> ╹ ╹┗━╸┗━╸┗━╸┗━┛
[21:20] <FloodBot2> mikeru: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:20] <UbuntuGuy> sorry for annying you
[21:20] <jrib> mikeru: do not do that
[21:20] <Enselic> ChrisH: looks ok, everything is ACCEPT
[21:20] <quickdraw> lol
[21:20] <Dekko> jrib: yes. Now I did try something else. Reinstalled the icon theme... now i have one working entry for it and the old non working entry for it STILL there.
 i want to ask you aspecific question but i want your attention pls Friend !!!!
[21:21] <jrib> UbuntuGuy: sure, go ahead
[21:21] <jrib> Dekko: don't know then
[21:21] <mebigfatguy> in alsomixer the first page is pulseaudio second page is SB Audigy is this wrong, should audigy be first?
[21:21] <erUSUL> not again...
[21:21] <Dekko> jrib: there must be some way to FIX that right?
[21:21] <Whitor> Does the 64bit version of ubuntu run 32 bit apps ?
[21:21] <jrib> Dekko: yes
[21:22] <UbuntuGuy> i want to install openmpi ??
[21:22] <UbuntuGuy> do you know it
[21:22] <jrib> Whitor: yes and no.  It can, but you won't have packages from the repository that are 32bit.  There isn't much need anyway
[21:22] <hinotf> iaindalton, how can I set autoaccess to keyring for network manager?
[21:22] <iaindalton> hinotf: AFAIK you can't.
[21:22] <rm200910> !help UbuntuGuy
[21:22] <quickdraw> if one makes a file executable with chmod, shouldn't you be able to mv or cp it to $PATH? or is there another way that I am not finding?
[21:22] <iaindalton> hinotf: But I don't know much.
[21:22] <ChrisH> enselic: 1. draw a picture of your network with all relevant information like router, firealls, ips, netmasks for you. 2. are there other devices involved?
[21:22] <ubuntuuser> I am trying to install ubuntu (I'm currently on my live cd) but the fourth step where I am supposed to "prepare partitions" it doesn't find any! I've tried setting the partition as unallocated, as unformatted, as formated to ext3, as formatted to ext4, as formatted to ext3 and mounted to /, as formatted to ext4 and mounted to /, but nothing works!
[21:22] <Whitor> jrib, ok thanks
[21:22] <jrib> UbuntuGuy: sure, just search for libopenmpi and install it I imagine
[21:23] <xiong> There seem to be a goodly number of users all with some variation of "ubuntu not using swap"
[21:23] <iaindalton> !helf | UbuntuGuy
[21:23] <erUSUL> quickdraw: you have to use sudo to copy to most PATH folders
[21:23] <iaindalton> oops
[21:23] <hinotf> thanks
[21:23] <k1ko> :)
[21:23] <iaindalton> !help | UbuntuGuy
[21:23] <quickdraw> hrmm.
[21:23] <quickdraw> erUSUL: I had tried that but it still came up with an error of No Such File or Directory.
[21:23] <Xgates> ubuntuuser: what type of hdd and you know it's not defective?
[21:23] <quickdraw> let me try again, just to cover my bases.
[21:24] <k1ko> :)
[21:24] <Enselic> ChrisH: ok
[21:24] <robdig> !find openmpi | UbuntuGuy
[21:24] <erUSUL> quickdraw: what was the exact command you used ?
[21:24] <k1ko> !help | k1ko
[21:25] <thepro> Hello
[21:25] <thepro> Any one have any idea how to get Japanese input to work with IBus?
[21:25] <quatar-it> hi all. In karmic, how to login by *typing* my username? (i don't want to let my users be listed in the login window)
[21:25] <quickdraw> erUSUL: sudo mv conky_start $PATH
[21:25] <Fager> How can I hide the little icon in the tasktray that gnome-settings-daemon puts there. Ididn't have it before
[21:25] <erUSUL> quickdraw: you can't do that ...
[21:25] <quickdraw> heh heh. I'm working off of a guide, and I'm an ubernewb to what $PATH is. lol.
[21:26] <quickdraw> haha. I had a feeling that was my problem.
[21:26] <erUSUL> quickdraw: $PATH is a list of folders not just one
[21:26] <UbuntuGuy8> help in openmpi
[21:26] <xiong> Ah. The "not using swap" issue may be triggered by a corrupt hibernation file.
[21:26] <ruthgard> Why can't you send files with empathy?
[21:26] <happyface> How can I use a USB keyboard media controls in koala?
[21:26] <erUSUL> quickdraw: sudo mv conky_start /usr/local/bin/ <<<
[21:26] <ruthgard> !empathy
[21:26] <mebigfatguy> !later
[21:26] <thepro> Any one know how to type Japanese?
[21:26] <quickdraw> so if a howto says "Move file to $PATH", I can basically just mv or cp the file to any of the ones listed in the error?
[21:26] <iaindalton> The LiveCD has an empty file called ubiquity-gtkui.desktop on the desktop. Despite being empty, the CD integrity test passes. How can I start the installation?
[21:26] <guntbert> !info openmpi-bin | UbuntuGuy8
[21:26] <dupondje> ruthgard: no support for transfers atm, quite sux imo ... just install pidgin again ;)
[21:27] <trism> thepro: it was a bit of a struggle for me, but it should just work going to System/Administration/Language Support, install the japanese support, set the input method to ibus and then go to System/Preferences/Ibus properties and set up the default properties (making anthy first in the input method list is useful)
[21:27] <Flannel> !details | UbuntuGuy8
[21:27] <ubuntuuser> Xgates, it's an "ATA" and I have freebsd as dual boot and it works (well it worked yesterday, now GRUB doesn't work so I can't boot into it) and ubuntu 9.04 was working on exactly this partition a few days ago. But the disk utility program tells me there are a few bad sectors, though I do not know what that means
[21:27] <trism> thepro: then reboot and you should be good to go
[21:27] <ruthgard> doh I want the default, I don't want to mess with the integrations etc
[21:27] <purplemojo> anyone else having problems with ACER netbooks and UNR wireless on Live CD?
[21:27] <UbuntuGuy8> how do i can install openmpi & run programm
[21:27] <ruthgard> I will just use my webserver instead then :D
[21:27] <barchamb> hello!  just upgraded from 9.04 to 9.10.  Under 9.04, i had a script that ran feh to do a slideshow.  in 9.10, it doesn't work.  feh gives me an error: "feh WARNING: couldn't open /mnt/Docs/Pictures".  i can ls or dir that directory just fine, so i know it's mounted...
[21:28] <ruthgard> purplemojo: it works good for me
[21:28] <ruthgard> purplemojo: I have the aspire one
[21:28] <balzac> i'm getting a segfault from leafpad
[21:28] <balzac> i really love leafpad
[21:28] <trism> thepro: once you have it correctly working, you should be able to use it just like scim, except I haven't managed to find a preference to enable it globally like scim (I have to enable it for each app with ctrl+space)
[21:28] <balzac> gedit is too fancy
[21:28] <iaindalton> barchamb: how about permissions?
[21:29] <sebsebseb> barchamb: yeah  would be nice to have a proper  random desktop background changer built into Gnome, but nope  there isn't one,  only  add on stuff.  KDE 3 and KDE 4 have one though.
[21:29] <Xgates> ubuntuuser: your hard drive is bad that is why Ubuntu doesn't see it --->  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bad_sector
[21:29] <friedrich__> hello  :)
[21:29] <Xgates> ubuntuuser: you need to get a new hdd
[21:29] <purplemojo> ruthgard - did you get wifi from liveCD? I have to run it this way...
[21:29] <barchamb> permission haven
[21:29] <barchamb> permissions haven't changed
[21:29] <markatto_> balzac: no, gedit is just plain bad. learn to use a real editor like vim or emacs.
[21:29] <ruthgard> purplemojo:  yes I did
[21:29] <sebsebseb> barchamb: The version of Gnome has changed.
[21:29] <balzac> markatto_: i use emacs
[21:30] <purplemojo> never had this problem with previous UNRs.
[21:30] <balzac> but i don't want to load it with all extensions for just a bit of text
[21:30] <balzac> leafpad is nice
[21:30] <dupondje> ruthgard: check http://telepathy.freedesktop.org/wiki/Protocols%20Support :)
[21:30] <balzac> gedit crashed once and i never gave it a second chance
[21:30] <markatto_> balzac: gvim loads in like 1 second
[21:30] <duffydack> Whats a good distro for 128mb ram>/
[21:30] <barchamb> here's the permissions: drwxr-xr-x 1 root root      12288 2009-10-18 18:56 Pictures
[21:31] <heatherRm> hello i can't log into my main account since i've upgraded to karmic. i can log into an xterm but not xsession. can someone please help
[21:31] <balzac> gvim has keybindings i'm not used to
[21:31] <balzac> i'll learn it eventually
[21:31] <markatto_> duffydack: not ubuntu. what cpu?
[21:31] <IndyGunFreak> duffydack: newpcnux...lol
[21:31] <balzac> i'll try it since leafpad got broken
[21:31] <haroelcabo> hi, what do I have to install in order to get the system temperature ?
[21:31] <sebsebseb> duffydack: Puppy Linux,  Daman Small Linux,  and  maybe  Ubuntu with 512MB SWAP space already on there so it will boot up the Live CD properly,  or you can try the alternate.
[21:31] <[manas]> jrib, sorry but it stupid me again, ok to create a group is sudo addgroup www_var, after sudo adduser manas www_var, but how to give privelleges to group????
[21:31] <balzac> others have noticed as well
[21:31] <erUSUL> !lm-sensors | haroelcabo
[21:31] <purplemojo> ruthgard, did you fix the wifi issues on your acer aspire?
[21:32] <Xgates> duffydack: if you like Ubuntu, you can always do a netinstall of Debian Lenny and install like Blackbox, Openbox, Fluxbox or Pekwm and it will run ok
[21:32] <heatherRm> am i muted or something?
[21:32] <markatto_> balzac: kate is way better than gedit, but kde stuff sucks
[21:32] <erUSUL> heatherRm: no
[21:32] <haroelcabo> erUSUL: thanks
[21:32] <daishadar> how can i determine what repository a package is coming from via the command line?
[21:32] <jrib> [manas]: first you want to change the group for /var/www using chgrp.  Then give the group write permissions: chmod g+w /var/www
[21:32] <markatto_> duffydack: debian > ubuntu anyways :P
[21:32] <heatherRm> i haven't been able to get an answer in here for days
[21:32] <mathepic> I don't think gedit is bad, but I wouldn't use it for anything big. For small things, its okay.
[21:32] <iaindalton> Is there a network install CD that downloads everything?
[21:32] <purplemojo> :)
[21:32] <Jordan_U_> daishadar: apt-cache policy package
[21:32] <Jordan_U_> !minimal | iaindalton
[21:33] <markatto_> mathepic: if you need to do "big things" then you need to learn vim or emacs.
[21:33] <ruthgard> purplemojo: I did not have any issues. Tho I am afraid I cant help you troubleshoot as I am not that good a power user
[21:33] <mathepic> exactly. I use emacs.
[21:33] <Ofanite> hi all, is this a good place to ask about wireless issues on 9.10? or is there a more specific channel for it?
[21:33] <robdig> daishadar: apt-cache policy <pkg> is one way
[21:33] <ruthgard> purplemojo: I can only tell you that it worked on my aspire one
[21:33] <erUSUL> Ofanite: here is a good place
[21:33] <mathepic> But in all honesty, if your going to make a README file, does it really matter what editor your using?
[21:33] <iaindalton> Jordan_U_: thx, http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors doesn't mention it.
[21:33] <UbuntuGuy8> how know openmpi well
[21:33] <Timmymayes> emacs is awesome but i alt is not M-x  :( anyone have an idea?
[21:34] <mathepic> timmymayes: Try Escape
[21:34] <mathepic> Alt is not M-x, Alt-x is
[21:34] <Timmymayes> esc works
[21:34] <Timmymayes> but i use Mx all the time
[21:34] <Timmymayes> well i know
[21:34] <guntbert> daishadar: try apt-cache policy <package>
[21:34] <purplemojo> ruthgard - I thought you said you had problems on your ASpire one?
[21:34] <Timmymayes> but alt-d for example
[21:34] <iaindalton> Does the Minimal CD work with wireless cards?
[21:34] <Timmymayes> sends a with .. over it
[21:34] <duffydack> thanks
[21:34] <Timmymayes> i can use esc but
[21:35] <IdleOne> UbuntuGuy: what is it you want to know about openmpi?
[21:35] <Timmymayes> esc everytime i want to delete a word is soooo inefficent
[21:35] <mathepic> Is your keyboard configured correctly
[21:35] <iaindalton> Timmymayes: Esc is for if you don't have a meta or alt key.
[21:35] <zeegeek> noticeable system lag experienced while moving mouse cursor, typing in terminal, playing flash, moving windows, etc. does anyone have any hints?
[21:35] <JessD> Anyone had any luck /w Karmic and Linksys usb wireless?
[21:35] <Timmymayes> mathepic: i believe
[21:35] <Ofanite> Thanks, I have been running 9.04 for a few weeks, everything was running smoothly, wireless worked with no configurations other than my wep key. Now I just updated to 9.10 and I cant connect to the internet... I don't seem to be getting an address from DHCP, when I assign a static address I can ping my gateway, resolve names, but for some odd reason I cant open webpages or connect to pidgin etc...
[21:36] <m4rk> how do i switch back the 9.10 login screen to the old login screen? I don't like the way it lists the available usernames
[21:36] <mathepic> Does <ALT> work correctly on other applications?
[21:36] <trism> JessD: I have a linksys WUSB54G and karmic is the first ubuntu release I didn't need ndiswrapper to get it to work
[21:36] <zeegeek> btw, I'm using 9.10 on thinkpad t61p
[21:36] <Timmymayes> mathepic: alt in xemacs works fine just not in xterm
[21:36] <sjefen6> solid ftp server?
[21:36] <UbuntuGuy8> hello
[21:36] <sebsebseb> m4rk: I don't think the old one can be installed easilly, if at all really
[21:36] <stsm> can i use xen on ubuntu 9.10?
[21:36] <Enselic> ChrisH: http://img37.imagefra.me/img/img37/2/10/31/f_n0bqt2ek9kem_3558d52.png
[21:36] <JessD> trism : Did it work just by plugging it in?  Cause it's not doing anything for me
[21:36] <mathepic> Does it work in GNU Emacs?
[21:36] <Timmymayes> mathepic: alt also doenot work with emacs style bash commands in xterm
[21:37] <ajl59_> I have a problem with the workspace switcher. I'm running Jaunty (updated from Intrepid last week, this probably triggered the problem). The problem is as described in http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=129634. Basically, the workspace switcher applet and the ctr-alt-{left/right} shortcut appear to move between completely different sets of workspaces. So using the switcher applet to get to workspace 2 then clicking ctrl-alt-right takes me to a workspace
[21:37] <trism> JessD: yes, just plugging in and configuring with network manager
[21:37] <Enselic> ChrisH: A can ping B, B can't ping A
[21:37] <Timmymayes> mathepic: whats hte command for gnu emacs? i use emacs -nw to get a terminal version
[21:37] <quatar-it> @all question about gnome notifications (the black boxes appearing on the top right)..: why do them pop up a little ...far... from the screen margin?
[21:37] <Wesley_> !ping H
[21:37] <thepro> ありがとう
[21:37] <IdleOne> UbuntuGuy: what is it you want to know about openmpi?
[21:37] <sebsebseb> m4rk: you could try KDM instead,  the KDE 4 version has a nice  blue bubble theme
[21:37] <trism> thepro: you're welcome, glad you got it working
[21:37] <thepro> Thanks a bunch, worked like a charm
[21:38] <mathepic> Timmymayes: Alt doesn't seem to work in xterm
[21:38] <dupondje> who is using flashplayer here (from the package) ? I need somebody to test something for me :)
[21:38] <mathepic> I just tried it
[21:38] <adnc> hello, unfortunately empathy did delete my accounts and does not show me MSN from the possible account protocols anymore. is this a known bug or is there a workaround?
[21:38] <Enselic> ChrisH: no other devices involved. It should be noted that both A and B are using wireless interfaces, but I don't see how that could matter much..
[21:38] <ChrisH> enselic: in that case something in between A and B is  the bad guy. can B ping B or other devices in the network?
[21:38] <mathepic> Err, GNU emacs is just emacs for me.
[21:38] <Ofanite> forgot to specify, using WUSB600N, and am currently on my 9.04 live cd and it works fine ;)
[21:38] <thepro> I spent a lot of time trying to make it work, hours. And you made it so simple, thanks a lot
[21:38] <jayferd> are there any known issues with aufs and mountall in karmic?  my eeepc refuses to mount aufs and squashfs in conjunction, and it's now wiping my fstab on each boot.
[21:38] <ermenegildo> hello
[21:38] <mathepic> xemacs is a completely different distro, different from GNU Emacs (X11)
[21:38] <ermenegildo> i'm a trouble
[21:38] <Timmymayes> well i didn't download it
[21:38] <Timmymayes> its ubuntu default
[21:39] <mathepic> Okay, then its GNU
[21:39] <Timmymayes> so its probably actually gnu
[21:39] <Xgates> duffydack: I sent ya a PM
[21:39] <Timmymayes> sorry i was using xemacs on windows up until a few days ago
[21:39] <IndyGunFreak> ermenegildo: the problem?
[21:39] <Enselic> ChrisH: yes B can ping Router (and access the internet)
[21:39] <mathepic> M-x works fine in gnome-terminal but not in xterm
[21:39] <mattgyver> I had a custom GDM login on 9.04, upgraded and obviously it doesnt work anymore but its throwing errors in .xsession-errors, is there a way to totally remove its config so it stops?
[21:39] <ermenegildo> i can modify in xubuntu http proxy
[21:39] <Timmymayes> how do i adjust the look of gnome terminal then?
[21:39] <Timmymayes> i hate the white terminal
[21:39] <mathepic> Its in preferences
[21:40] <ermenegildo> i have a problem pardon
[21:40] <tritium> Timmymayes: Edit -> Profile Preferences
[21:40] <sebsebseb> mattgyver: Don't know, but you could try KDM
[21:40] <JessD> Anyone had any luck /w Karmic and Linksys usb wireless wusb54gsc v 2?
[21:40] <ryan_> 9.10 UNR is sweet
[21:40] <ermenegildo> how i set ?
[21:40] <mathepic> You can change the background (ie solid color, or transparent)
[21:40] <ChrisH> enselic: there is another device involved... the WLAN-AP!
[21:40] <ermenegildo> in gnome ?
[21:40] <Timmymayes> how do you do tranparent?
[21:40] <Enselic> ChrisH: oops! yes sorry
[21:40] <trism> Timmymayes: you can fix alt+x in xterm by adding XTerm*eightBitInput: false to .Xresources
[21:40] <m4rk> sebsebseb, It's not the theme, I just want to turn off the bit that lists the usernames before you log on
[21:40] <Enselic> ChrisH: well that's the Router
[21:41] <mathepic> under background, select transparent background
[21:41] <trism> Timmymayes: or UXTerm if you use that
[21:41] <Enselic> ChrisH: it's a combined router and wlan AP
[21:41] <sebsebseb> m4rk: I don't think you can, unless you edit the source code yourself.
[21:41] <Enselic> ChrisH: connected directly to internet
[21:41]  * Strife89 downloads Ubuntu 9.10 (i386).
[21:41] <mathepic> for some reason, my xterm is now white background and I'm not sure why
[21:41] <Timmymayes> oh i found it
[21:41] <m4rk> bugger. OK
[21:41] <ChrisH> enslic: thats why I suggested to draw a picture... I assume the router does some filtering
[21:41] <Timmymayes> eh transparency is kind of over rated
[21:41] <tritium> m4rk: you want to change the gdm login screen?
[21:42] <Timmymayes> anyone point me in the right direction to install themes?
[21:42] <Enselic> ChrisH: maybe, let me browse my router settings
[21:42] <sebsebseb> Timmymayes: themes for  the log in screen, or Gnome?
[21:42] <mathepic> I like having a very light transparent background
[21:42] <mathepic> Gets rid of the annoying white while keeping it readable
[21:42] <ermenegildo> modify http and ftp ecc. with epiphany
[21:42] <stsm> can i use xen on ubuntu 9.10?
[21:42] <mathepic> I absolutely cant change login screen for some reason on Karmic
[21:42] <mathepic> I could on Jaunty
[21:42] <Timmymayes> sebsebseb, gnome
[21:42] <joebodo> !theme
[21:42] <trism> m4rk: I figured out how to turn that off, gksudo -u gdm dbus-launch gconf-editor; then set search for the disable_list_users key and set it to true
[21:42] <sebsebseb> !thmes |  Timmymayes
[21:43] <Timmymayes> is that an app ?
[21:43] <Timmymayes> or a command
[21:43] <sebsebseb> Timmymayes: Is what?
[21:43] <scarface> i cant connect to australian ubuntu server?
[21:43] <ermenegildo> indygunfreak do you know ?
[21:43] <trism> m4rk: unfortunately, there is still this annoying button to click before you can enter your username, I didn't see an options for that
[21:43] <Timmymayes> !theme
[21:43] <Timmymayes> oh ok
[21:43] <sebsebseb> Timmymayes: that's a bot trigger
[21:43] <scarface> im trying to download new progs, cant conect to the server?
[21:43] <sebsebseb> !bot |  Timmymayes
[21:44] <wilker> \join #ceara
[21:44] <dupondje> scarface: try other server :)
[21:44]  * thiebaude everyone have a good one, have to go trick or treat
[21:44] <trism> m4rk: my mistake, it is disable_user_list
[21:44] <freevryheid> firefox plugins - should these be installed through firefox or apt?
[21:44] <ermenegildo> where is the panel to edit connections ?
[21:45] <mathepic> how do i change my login screen on karmic?
[21:45] <Enselic> ChrisH: I can't find anything strange
[21:45] <Plugh> ermenegildo: Network connections?
[21:45] <dupondje> freevryheid: if its possible tru apt, do apt :)
[21:45] <IndyGunFreak> Timmymayes: joebodo if you guys are interested in some good themes, here's a nother good repo of themes.. i like them.. http://www.bisigi-project.org/?page_id=8&lang=en
[21:45] <m4rk> trism: cool! where do I set disable_user_list ?
[21:45] <stealth-> freevryheid: firefox plugins are stored locally to the user, so installing them via firefox is fine. However flash can be a different matter, keep in mind
[21:45] <Xgates> freevryheid: apt is better
[21:45] <Timmymayes> ok now another terminal type questions
[21:45] <freevryheid> same for python modules ? apt rather than easy_install?
[21:45] <Plugh> ermenegildo: System -> Preferences -> Network connections
[21:45] <Timmymayes> how can i make a set of alias's that will be loaded on any new instance of gterm
[21:45] <joebodo> IndyGunFreak, thx
[21:46] <m4rk> trism, sorry I see your previous message...
[21:46] <m4rk> I'll try gksudo -u gdm dbus-launch gconf-editor
[21:46] <mathepic> just gterm, or do you mean any instance of bash
[21:46] <Xgates> freevryheid: do as much through apt that way Ubuntu controls the updates/patches/security etc., for you...
[21:46] <ermenegildo> i don't have in xubuntu 9.04
[21:46] <dupondje> freevryheid: general rule, apt > manual :)
[21:46] <erUSUL> Timmymayes: define them on ~/.bashrc
[21:47] <trism> freevryheid: well, for python modules, sometimes apt is really outdated (and then not really useful), so in that case, you might be better with easy_install
[21:47] <freevryheid> ad-block thru apt fails on a fresh Karmic
[21:47] <m4rk> cool. I will try logging out and in again
[21:47] <Xgates> freevryheid: sent ya a pm
[21:47] <trism> m4rk: the button you need to click annoys me though, so I switched it back
[21:48] <ermenegildo> and if i go to terminal ?
[21:48] <Mandrew> hello anyone here that knows how to tether the iphone
[21:48] <thepro> Btw, one more question. Do you have any idea how I switch between hiragana and katakana?
[21:48] <Mandrew> with ubuntu 9.10
[21:48] <gilligan_> Mandrew, how is that ubuntu related?
[21:49] <Mandrew> well how is it not?
[21:49] <trism> thepro: you can configure that in the anthy configure, if you are in anthy mode, on the little language bar in the bottom right there should be an option to edit anthy preferences
[21:49] <trism> thepro: I set alt+1 for hiragana, alt+2 katakana, and alt+3 latin...but that's just me
[21:49] <Xgates> freevryheid: well use apt when you can of course but if there are problems, then manually install, but try it through Synaptic and CLI, also you have to make sure in your software sources universe and restricted are checked
[21:49] <mathepic> How do I change my login theme in Karmic since Administration/Login Screen does not let me do that?
[21:50] <Enselic> ChrisH: I got to go now, thanks a lot for trying to help, appreciated
[21:50] <trism> mathepic: gksudo -u gdm dbus-launch gnome-appearance-properties; this will let you set the gtk theme and wallpaper, etc
[21:50] <JAMD456> Can any one help me, I am trying to share a printer connected to my Ubuntu machine on a Windows network, Windows "sees" the printer but will not connect and throws up error messages
[21:50] <IndyGunFreak> mathepic: i believe thats quite a bit more involved w/ Karmic... i've not really dove into figuring it out yet
[21:50] <thepro> The bar with the star?
[21:50] <Stronze> did anyone else's OS break after the disto upgrade?
[21:51] <trism> thepro: yes, it is one of the buttons on there
[21:51] <ermenegildo> i can configure the connections for a proxy server
[21:51] <ryan_> Stronze, yes, I resorted to a clean install
[21:51] <dupondje> Stronze: 'break' .. could you be more specific ?
[21:51] <mathepic> trism, that doesn't work
[21:51] <mathepic> it doesn't have anything about login screen
[21:52] <trism> mathepic: it will say gnome appearance properties, but it will edit the gdm theme
[21:52] <thepro> trism: I can't find anything else than the ability to choose what language and the "about"
[21:52] <dupondje> btw, somebody knows how to change language of spelling checker in XChat ?
[21:52] <trism> thepro: not the task bar icon, switch to anthy mode (assuming you're using anthy), and on the language bar where you select hiragana/katakana etc, there is an option to edit the preferences
[21:52] <Mandrew> ok anyone that k nows were i can find any info on how to tether my ipone in ubuntu 9.10?
[21:52] <acadmin> windows 2008 64 bit
[21:52] <mathepic> Does anyone know how to stop empathy from telling me whenever someone enters/leaves an irc room?
[21:52] <dupondje> Mandrew: try google :)
[21:53] <Mandrew> well i have
[21:53] <tstebut> I want to remove interface pethO without removing eth0, how can I do this ?
[21:53] <Tatjana_81_NS> i have a problem
[21:53] <Mandrew> iwe spent hours on google
[21:53] <Tatjana_81_NS> heloo
[21:53] <haroelcabo> erUSUL: you know, sensors-detect does not detect any sensors in my hardware, which is weird. What should I do ?
[21:53] <Tatjana_81_NS> can i ask?
[21:53] <trism> Tatjana_81_NS: ask your question
[21:53] <thepro> I can't find any Anthy bar (using Anthy)
[21:54] <Tatjana_81_NS> i can not connect on mu usual irc server
[21:54] <tstebut> hey, erUSUL, I'm afraid to remove inteface eth0 now, will it go back after reboot ?
[21:54] <ermenegildo> are we sleep?
[21:54] <trism> thepro: do you have the language panel enabled in the ibus properties?
[21:54] <Tatjana_81_NS> i dont know what is hte problem
[21:54] <swimmerr> I'm awake
[21:55] <dupondje> Tatjana_81_NS: we neither, maby a better error description would help ?
[21:55] <Timmymayes> ok i have an internet issue
[21:55] <Timmymayes> my wlan0 gets set to 1mb
[21:55] <Timmymayes> instead of 54
[21:55] <Timmymayes> how do i set it up to always load 54MB
[21:55] <thepro> Yes i do
[21:55] <Timmymayes> i changed it once and it was fine till i reboot
[21:55] <thepro> And it seems to be my language pannel
[21:55] <thepro> I turned on always now, and it is in the same spot
[21:55] <dupondje> Timmymayes: normally it uses best speed availible ... if you further away from hotspot .. it will lower speed
[21:55] <acadmin> how can you extend windows activation server 2008 64bit
[21:56] <chemjeff> Hi all, could someone share with me where the GNOME applets are installed in Ubuntu?
[21:56] <Timmymayes> well when i do a speed test i get 0.38 mb/s down adn 0.05 up. when i manually chaanged it to 54mbs i was getting 10.20 down and 3.59 up
[21:56] <Timmymayes> now i'm back to 0.38mb/s
[21:56] <one-star> join #what.cd
[21:56] <guntbert> !ot | acadmin
[21:56] <Timmymayes> its literally located downstairs
[21:56] <dupondje> Mandrew: ask in channel ?
[21:57] <Tatjana_81_NS> ja cu da odlepim  :) eto :)
[21:57] <Andril> Happy Halloween to all - gimme my candy
[21:57] <guntbert> !ot | Andril
[21:57] <trism> thepro: ok, I found a shortcut to launch it from the command line, /usr/lib/ibus-anthy/ibus-setup-anthy
[21:57] <ewig> hi all, upgraded to 9.10 today, all went fine but one thing is annoying me, I have two hdds I have put to sleep with hdparm, but something is waking them up every 30 min
[21:57] <ewig> the hdds are unmounted
[21:57] <m4rk> trism, thanks for your help. It works!
[21:57] <ewig> any ideas who the culprit is?
[21:57] <Andril> ok hello all
[21:57] <trism> thepro: not sure why it isn't in /usr/bin, that seems like a bug
[21:58] <Plugh> I'm working on my list of paper cuts re: ubuntu. How do I get a picture to appear beside my name on the gdm login screen? I have a picture beside my name on my laptop but not on the desktop. I have a .face file in my use account on both machines.
[21:58] <vigo> ewig: Is it or could it be an Update of something that is making them active?
[21:58] <mdgeorge1> hello
[21:58] <Mandrew> is there any channel for ubuntu 9.10 support?
[21:58] <ermenegildo> are there irc chanell ubuntu italy
[21:58] <icehawk78> Just upgraded to 9.10 and have a strange issue. My external hard drive mouts with permissions of 700, and I can't even sudo chmod it to 755 in order to write to it as a non-owner
[21:58] <linny1> this is it !
[21:58] <ermenegildo> s
[21:58] <mdgeorge1> I just upgraded to karmic, and suddenly my sound doesn't work.  Can anyone help?
[21:59] <guntbert> Mandrew: you are there
[21:59] <Mandrew> im here
[21:59] <vigo> !it | Mandrew
[21:59] <linny1> mdgeorge1: what sound card do you have ?
[21:59] <guntbert> !it | ermenegildo
[21:59] <Gnusboy> Hi all
[21:59] <mdgeorge1> linny1: how do I find that out?
[21:59] <Dextorion> hi
[21:59] <dupondje> icehawk78: NTFS ?
[21:59] <torrentow> Hi. How to kill GDM in ubuntu 9.10 ?
[21:59] <icehawk78> dupondje: Yes.
[22:00] <Timmymayes> how do i make the command sudo iwconfig wlan0 54MB happen on bootup?
[22:00] <dupondje> you don't have permissions on NTFS ..
[22:00] <dupondje> the user that mounts it has all perms ..
[22:00] <Gnusboy> I need to find out why the new upgrade to 9.10 will take 3.22 hrs to install
[22:00] <dupondje> its windows shit ;)
[22:00] <ewig> vigo: very likely, I thought it was smartmontools first, but it still happens after I stopped the daemon
[22:00] <dupondje> Gnusboy: get fiber
[22:00] <sebastianffx> hi, someone knows how to solve the no-sound problem in 9.10, i have no device on the hardware tab :(
[22:00] <icehawk78> dupondje: Well, I can't access it via a samba share on my windows machine anymore, but what previously able to
[22:00] <Plugh> Timmymayes: Add it to /etc/rc.local
[22:01] <crazed> how can i change where notifications popup? seems to be too low instead of right under the time/date
[22:01] <artcore> hi all
[22:01] <ryan_> any know if eee-control is available for karmic?
[22:01] <kim12> hey
[22:01] <mdgeorge1> linny1: lspci lists 00:08.0 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP79 High Definition Audio (rev b1)
[22:01] <dupondje> icehawk78: you can actually give options when mounting it, to give everyubody access
[22:01] <artcore> my hw- http://paste.ubuntu.com/306223/
[22:01] <Timmymayes> Plugh: thanks
[22:01] <vigo> ewig: My first guess or suspect would be an updater in the background, any updater, Clam, Wine etc.etc.etc.
[22:01] <guntbert> !hi | Mandrew
[22:01] <Timmymayes> Plugh do i need to put sudo in?
[22:02] <Plugh> Timmymayes: yw
[22:02] <trism> torrentow: I believe with upstart it should be sudo stop gdm (but I haven't tried it yet)
[22:02] <artcore> still problems with wifi card
[22:02] <thepro> So I am suppose to set bindings for the keys? Because I did, but nothing changes when I hit apply
[22:02] <demonspork> Flash player controls don't work in flash with 64bit 9.10, how do I fix this? Flash version is 10,0,32,18 and this occurs regardless of the browser I use
[22:02] <Timmymayes> or just sudo edit
[22:02] <guntbert> !pm | Mandrew
[22:02] <Plugh> Timmymayes: no. Anything in rc.local is run as root during startup. You will need 'sudo' to be able to edit the file.
[22:02] <icehawk78> dupondje: I don't manually mount it - is there a way to give it permissions by default whenever it's mounted so I don't have to repeat it everytime I restart?
[22:03] <dupondje> icehawk78: you can set it in /etc/fstab
[22:03] <Gnusboy> I have 3-5 mbps DSL abnd a AMD 9850 processor. I have D/l the update, but it says it will take 3.22 hours to install it.
[22:03] <linny1> Gnusboy: the repos are slow atm
[22:03] <icehawk78> dupondje: ALright, thanks, I'll take a look
[22:03] <petx> hi, anyone know how to get alsa mixer by 9.04 in 9.10.. it seems 9.10 doesnt have alsa mixer... ??
[22:03] <linny1> Gnusboy: i have 50mb line and they are slow for me too
[22:03] <thepro> It seems like what ever I do inside the setup changes nothing
[22:04] <Gnusboy> Again: I have the update ON my computer now
[22:04] <Plugh> That reminds me I need to mod my rc.local to start the device driver for my Space Navigator
[22:04] <ajl59_> I have a problem with the workspace switcher. I'm running Jaunty (updated from Intrepid last week, this probably triggered the problem). The problem is as described in http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=129634. Basically, the workspace switcher applet and the ctr-alt-{left/right} shortcut appear to move between completely different sets of workspaces. So using the switcher applet to get to workspace 2 then clicking ctrl-alt-right takes me to a workspace
[22:04] <lordganesh> can anybody tell me how to use 'at' command
[22:04] <dupondje> petx: you don't need alsamixer imo, there is no PulseAudio
[22:05] <mdgeorge1> hello
[22:05] <artcore> Gnusboy: try to change country for updates
[22:05] <Plugh> ajl59_: Check your keyboard shortcut settings
[22:05] <mdgeorge1> I just upgraded to karmic, and suddenly my sound doesn't work
[22:05] <mdgeorge1> can anyone help?
[22:05] <linny1> lordganesh:  man at ?
[22:05] <wildc4rd> Im getting strange colour errors in mplayer and movie player since updating to 9.10, any ideas why?
[22:06] <lordganesh> linny1:  i can't understand it from man at
[22:06] <marcelcohrs> hallo freunde
[22:06] <marcelcohrs> naaah
[22:06] <chemjeff> ARGH is there an updated lm_sensors package available for Ubuntu, one that can handle Core i7 chips?
[22:06] <stsm> can i use xen on ubuntu 9.10?
[22:06] <linny1> mdgeorge1: there is a page for sound problems here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1144009
[22:06] <marcelcohrs> wahr ihr auch alle artig?
[22:06] <Plugh> wildc4rd: what sort of strange errors?
[22:06] <mdgeorge1> linny1: thanks
[22:06] <swimmerr> my 910 works just great...... best to date !!!
[22:06] <vigo> !man | lordganesh
[22:06] <guntbert> !de | marcelcohrs
[22:06] <CVirus> After upgrading to karmic koala my internet is not working properly .. I can ping my router and google.com but firefox times out and amsn won't connect .. wtf ?
[22:06] <marcelcohrs> hhahha
[22:06] <artcore> marcelcohrs: english please
[22:06] <Gnusboy> Y'all don't seem to get it. Is there another channel that can answer my question?
[22:06] <petx> dupondje, but I need to set both the master sound and the headphone jack sound... I cant set them up without alsa mixer like in 9.04
[22:06] <stsm> !de | marcelcohrs
[22:06] <Strife89> Hmmm, suppose I want to install 9.10 but keep my 9.04 setup. How will that work out?
[22:06] <marcelcohrs> just kiddin
[22:06] <wildc4rd> plugh, mainly colours not showing right, in films, people are blue etc
[22:07] <stsm> ah !de doesnt exist lol
[22:07] <marcelcohrs> hey guys anybody familiar with vhost and cake?
[22:07] <dupondje> petx: should work I bet in PulseAudio
[22:07] <vigo> !man
[22:07] <Strife89> The cake is a lie.
[22:07] <artcore> !ge marcelcohrs
[22:07] <dupondje> else there is a commandline 'alsamixer'
[22:07] <dupondje> :)
[22:07] <vigo> ratso
[22:07] <guntbert> !ot | marcelcohrs
[22:07] <marcelcohrs> !ge?
[22:07] <Strife89> !manpoage
[22:07] <marcelcohrs> ?ot
[22:07] <Strife89> !manpage
[22:07] <linny1> lordganesh:  so what dont you understand what do you want to do ?
[22:08] <ubersoldat> (OFFTOPIC) Alguien tiene un TDT de estos con grabador por USB???
[22:08] <Strife89> Quick question: I want to install 9.10 but keep my 9.04 setup. How will that work out?
[22:08] <swimmerr> trick or treat ?
[22:08] <Gnusboy> This is exactly why I despise IRC. thanks!
[22:08] <Plugh> I found even the command line alsamixer didn't fully help with some sound issues I had (max volume seemed a little on the quiet side). Install the gnome-alsamixer GUI program.
[22:08] <ubersoldat> sorry wrong channel
[22:08] <CodingFreak> @strife89: 2 partitions
[22:08] <daishadar> how do i get 'apt-cache policy' to print the full url of the repository of a package?  it only prints the domain...
[22:08] <Strife89> Gnusboy: What is it?
[22:08] <vigo> here: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/
[22:08] <Strife89> CodingFreak: GRUB will be handled just fine?
[22:08] <mattwj2002> hi guys
[22:09] <petx> dupondje, sry I dont understand with pulse audio, what do you mean...??
[22:09] <mattwj2002> I was wondering if I could get a little help
[22:09] <swimmerr> hi mattw
[22:09] <lupus_> Hello, I upgraded from Ubnutu 9.04 to 9.10, i have encrypted lvm up and running, now it says it cant mount those partions, but sure enough it seems like its being mounted
[22:09] <Plugh> mattwj2002: Not unless you tell us your problem.
[22:09] <lupus_> But not before the error
[22:09] <mattwj2002> I need help with flash on ubuntu 9.10 amd64
[22:09] <CodingFreak> think so, not sure. else u could handle it manually :-D
[22:09] <stsm> mattwj2002, its best to just ask the question, if someone can help they will reply
[22:09] <ajl59_> I've figure out a workaround for the aforementioned desktop switching weirdness - the wmctrl command (found in the package of the same name) can be used to switch back to a desktop that has menu bars.
[22:09] <mattwj2002> how do I install it?
[22:09] <ajl59_> still very weird.
[22:09] <artcore> mattwj2002: what exacly?
[22:10] <linny1>  mattwj2002: cant you just use apt ?
[22:10] <linny1> artcore:  flashplayer i think
[22:10] <artcore> mattwj2002: apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[22:10] <linny1> ;)
[22:10] <Timmymayes> in gterm how do i make the font bigger? xterm was shift +
[22:10] <kholerabbi> Can I manage partitions in the alternate (text based) ubuntu installer?
[22:10] <Mandrew> im running ubuntu 9.10 and what
[22:10] <linny1> dont forget sudo mattwj2002 :)
[22:11] <MikeChelen> are there any game server browsing utilities that include friends lists?
[22:11] <cox> hi all. how do i start a new session in ubuntu?
[22:11] <mathepic> Does anyone know how to make the font smaller in terminal mode (As in REAL terminal mode, not an emulator)
[22:11] <CodingFreak> @cox: huh? what do yo mean?
[22:11] <Plugh> Timmymayes: Go to Edit drop down menu
[22:11] <artcore> yep :>
[22:11] <linny1> cox: ctl alt F* ??
[22:11] <Mandrew> im running ubuntu 9.10 and want to tether my iphone anyone that can help me?
[22:11] <Plugh> Timmymayes: Edit the profile
[22:11] <Timmymayes> Plugh danka
[22:11] <Plugh> Timmymayes: bitte
[22:11] <Timmymayes> it seems ctrl + & ctrl - work as well
[22:11] <artcore> Mandrew: sorry? what do you mean
[22:12] <mattwj2002> oh that is what I must have done wrong
[22:12] <mattwj2002> I was trying to install it from adobe's website
[22:12] <mattwj2002> :)
[22:12] <linny1> Mandrew: LOL iphone , sorry i couldnt resist give it a google its bound to be somthing thats been attempted before
[22:12] <erikk71> hi all
[22:12] <Mandrew> tethering in ubuntu on iphone
[22:12] <gnubie> mattwj2002;  http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer10/releasenotes_64bit.html    follow these steps exactly and it should work
[22:12] <marcelcohrs> hahahha
[22:12] <marcelcohrs> ure funny <#
[22:12] <Mandrew> plz dont send me googleing i have don that for hours
[22:12] <marcelcohrs> <3
[22:12] <Jordan_U_> mathepic: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup" also if you have an intel or ati card you might try enabling kernel mode setting to get full resolution ttys
[22:13] <linny1> Mandrew: ill have a google for yer  :)
[22:13] <cYmen> I just upgraded to 9.10 and now the option to run the window manager in my .xinitrc is gone. Any hints on how to fix that?
[22:13] <guntbert> marcelcohrs: please keep your contributions to the topic
[22:13] <mattwj2002> it works!
[22:13] <gnubie> mattwj2002;  the nonfree did not work for me in 64bit
[22:13] <chemjeff> Is there an Ubuntu package that has an updated lm_sensors that will work with Core i7 and ASUS motherboards?
[22:13] <mattwj2002> !beer for all
[22:14] <Plugh> cYmen: You can set stuff to run on login via Startup Applications under System -> Preferences
[22:14] <mattwj2002> !beer | all
[22:14] <Plugh> bbl. dinner
[22:14]  * artcore drinking beer
[22:14] <dupondje> chemjeff: 'sensors' should work ...
[22:14] <mattwj2002> :)
[22:14] <DIL> I just up graded to 9.10. got prompts that it was not upgrade successfully. i cannot open some applications. i ran sudo apt-get upgrade and get the following results which i pasted http://paste.ubuntu.com/306236/
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[22:14] <artcore> one more pint, please
[22:14] <kernel_geek> Hello, when I insert too many files in k3b, Brasero or serpentine, it doesnt record. Is there any way/ or program that auto overflows to the next disc for compilation albums ? Thanks.
[22:14]  * mattwj2002 bought Stargate Universe from Amazon
[22:14] <mattwj2002> :)
[22:14] <erikk71> after i installed ubuntu 9.10 i had to restart my computer it tries to boot but it never gets to login page
[22:14] <cYmen> Plugh: Do you really think putting a window manager in there is a good idea?
[22:14] <lordganesh> ubottu: can utell me any sample example for syntax of at ...suppose i want to run vlc player at 4.00am
[22:15] <Ironicus> I downloaded ubuntu, but I don't know with what to burn it any suggestion?
[22:15] <dupondje> DIL: try rm /usr/share/icons/HighContrastLargePrintInverse/.icon-theme.cache
[22:15] <linny1> Mandrew:  http://xn--9bi.net/2009/06/17/tethering-iphone-3-0-to-ubuntu-9-04/  heres how to do it via BT
[22:15] <chemjeff> dupondje: I tried installing the Ubuntu lm_sensors package and sensors-detect couldn't find my HW sensors, but when I installed lm_sensors manually then it worked.  But now I cannot install the sensors-applet because Ubuntu keeps asking me to install the lm_sensors package (which doesn't work for me).
[22:15] <dupondje> Ironicus: any burn pogram that can do ISO ?
[22:15] <erikk71> my second time to install it
[22:15] <ruthgard> Mandrew: I ended up on the same page: http://xn--9bi.net/2009/06/17/tethering-iphone-3-0-to-ubuntu-9-04/ Did you try to follow that?
[22:15] <chemjeff> dupondje: That's why I was asking if there's an updated lm_sensors package that I can use so that I can use the sensors-applet
[22:15] <Ironicus> that can burn cd from iso
[22:16] <vigo> lordganesh: That is like a chron job, or something.
[22:16] <chowder> how do I add support for FreeBSD's filesystem and for the way it lables partitions and slices?
[22:16] <Mandrew> i need it with the usb only cuz my machine dont have bluetooth
[22:16] <ruthgard> Ah
[22:16] <erikk71> are u on linux
[22:16] <vigo> chowder: Install Alien
[22:16] <vigo> !alien
[22:16] <inx-mdg>  /quit
[22:16] <xim_> what command can i type to get the part of my gui that controls my window borders and stuff back
[22:16] <DIL> dupondje, and then ?
[22:17] <erikk71> can some tell me what to do to fix thwe problem
[22:17] <chemjeff> !lm_sensors
[22:17] <Mandrew> any ideas?
[22:17] <QPrime> Ironicus: what os are you on right now?
[22:17] <chowder> vigo: I know what alien does but what package would I use? Just installing Alien on its own doesn't help me much.
[22:17] <chemjeff> !sensors
[22:17] <dupondje> DIL: retry upgrade
[22:17] <lordganesh> vigo: what is chron
[22:17] <linny1> Mandrew:as you will read on that article its not possible atm or so that site says ? he seems to know his stuff maybe you should invest in a bt dongle they aint expensive and if you can afford an iphone youll be fine :)
[22:17] <Fager> How can I remove the gnome-settungs-deamons icon in the tasktray?
[22:17] <QPrime> Ironicus: http://infrarecorder.org  <--- windows based GPL burner.  works quite well.
[22:17] <notfoo> how do you change remote desktop port in this new 9.10. it's not in the REmote Desktop options(vino-preferences) anymore. anyone know where the config file is located????
[22:17] <Fager> its ugly and I have no use for it!
[22:18] <DIL> dupondje, same error
[22:18] <erikk71> i cant figure why it wont go to logon screen it seems like its hanging up
[22:18] <Mandrew> i meet i guy from Norway on the release party of ubuntu 9.10 that did it with usb cable
[22:18] <ruthgard> Mandrew: Requirements: A Jailbroken iPhone running SSH.
[22:18] <erikk71> all i get is darn black screen
[22:18] <ruthgard> Do you have that?
[22:18] <vigo> chowder: after Alien is in, then it is just like any RPM. Takes a bit of reading because it is not Apt.
[22:18] <linny1> Mandrew:  well im not well informed on the subject im just trying to help
[22:18] <Mandrew> he had not jailbroken it
[22:18] <dupondje> DIL: try purging it, and then install it
[22:19] <dupondje> DIL: it sometimes behaves strange ;)
[22:19] <Mandrew> im happy for the help im geting though
[22:19] <erikk71> can anyone majke a suggestion
[22:19] <trism> Fager: the universal settings icon (little blue icon?)
[22:19] <assoguerozen_sx> u guys know wich package completes commands using tab key?
[22:19] <DIL> dupondje, thanks
[22:19] <ruthgard> Okay seems like googling it didnt help atleast not for the top five pages
[22:19] <Mandrew> it better than go google
[22:19] <linny1> maybe try some iphone or mac irc ??
[22:19] <dereks_> hey guys. i am trying to burn an iso onto a usb drive to install ubuntu umr on my netbook, but it seems i don't know how
[22:19] <ruthgard> Sell it an get a HTC Hero? :D
[22:19] <Fager> Thats the one, trism
[22:19] <dereks_> can someone help me
[22:19] <epinky> assoguerozen_sx: dash?
[22:19] <trism> Fager: System/Preferences/Keyboard on the accessibility tab, first checkbox
[22:20] <assoguerozen_sx> epinky let me try here
[22:20] <chemjeff> My other alternative is to manually install the GNOME sensors-applet.  Does anybody know how I manually insert an applet into the GNOME applet bar?
[22:20] <ruthgard> Mandrew how do you do it with windows?
[22:20] <Dextorion> nice features in 9.10 i must say
[22:20] <ekilfoil> hello all, it seems that the really obnoxious system beep is gone... but since enabling compiz, i don't get any beep at all.... my web searches haven't produced much usable info and I'm sure it's a simple checkbox somewhere.  Any ideas?
[22:20] <chowder> vigo: yea, I know. I've actually used Alien before. However I still wouldn't know what .rpm to install. I need BSD disklabel support and support for UFS. I installed packages from synaptic for this but gparted still reports my FreeBSD partition as "unknown"
[22:20] <Mandrew> or buy support from canonical lol
[22:20] <thepro> Got it to work now, some how there was suddently 2 versions of Anthy now (one with a crown) and I chose it and now it works perfectly. Thanks for all your hard work
[22:20] <artcore> dereks_: boot from live cd and use System - Administration - USB startup creator
[22:20] <briancron> dereks_: get unetbootin
[22:20] <Mandrew> its just too do it in the network setting on windows
[22:21] <gnubie> dereks_; http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/   this might help also
[22:21] <Fager> trism: Finally its gone. thank you very much
[22:21] <Mandrew> iwe done it 2 times i might be able to help you if you want that
[22:21] <ruthgard> So it shows up if you connect it in windows, what happends if you do the same thing on the phone in linux?
[22:21] <spiderworm> hi, after updating my kernel today my nvidia drivers no longer seem to be present... can anyone tell me how to get a list of the most recently installed updates via the command line?
[22:21] <dupondje> assoguerozen_sx: bash-completion
[22:21] <trism> Fager: np, happened to me after I modified the gdm theme...don't know why it keeps popping up when I do that
[22:21] <ewig> vigo: well it still happens after I log out from X, so some background process is misbehaving
[22:21] <assoguerozen_sx> dupondje trying this
[22:22] <mattgyver> Mandrew, sounds like the same problem i had with my android g1.  I had to setup an adhoc connection but ... there were several steps i had to do before that so it would recognize the Adhoc network correctly
[22:22] <gummi> how do I add another os to grub? I am not 100% on if it is (hd1,7)
[22:22] <Mandrew> ok
[22:22] <Fager> trism. Thats weird! I think my started showing up after changing the gnome desktop theme
[22:22] <mattgyver> Mandrew, if i recall correctly the issue I had in the end was related to the drivers of my wifi card
[22:22] <dereks_> briancron: nice thanks. do you know of any that don't require qt?
[22:22] <epinky> assoguerozen_sx: echo $SHELL
[22:22] <dupondje> gummi: it should auto detect it
[22:22] <vigo> lordganesh: A chron job or script is like Start this at this time. here, this explains it much better than I can: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=14ad12d8c5084b341967dd2904b6c8a3&t=1307217&highlight=start+program
[22:22] <Mandrew> ok
[22:23] <livingdaylight> Hello I have Hoary Hedgedog... i hear there is a new OS called Koala... Can I upgrade?
[22:23] <Mandrew> the wifi how come?
[22:23] <gummi> dupondje, how?
[22:23] <metaphlex> i was playing lbreakout2 and i tried to quit but it didn't quite shutdown. i ended up force quiting. but now top is still showing it running at 100% CPU. I've tried pkill and killall lbreakout2 but it won't go away
[22:23] <dupondje> gummi: update-grub ...
[22:23] <anachronik> how is the upgrade? does it needs any intervention after the "okay to upgrade"? may I let it upgrade and go to sleep?
[22:23] <mattgyver> Mandrew, I have broadcom bcm43xx drivers which.... as i have read, are the worst to have.
[22:23] <trism> livingdaylight: not from hoary, you would need to upgrade to each release in between, easier to just do a fresh install
[22:23] <metaphlex> any suggestions about how to truly kill it?
[22:23] <saji> Mandrew, what's the problem with ur wifi?
[22:23] <mdgeorge1> metaphlex: did you try kill -9
[22:23] <Mandrew> they aree
[22:23] <assoguerozen_sx> epinky trying this too
[22:23] <Mandrew> i dont have any :P
[22:23] <OzFalcon> Any recommendations on a media player for a Jukebox (mp3 only) pc. Have been using Banshee. Any other suggestions?
[22:24] <mattgyver> Mandrew, i had to get it working in 8.10, however 9.04 it worked immediately
[22:24] <techtronic> hey just wondering if some one might help me set up a vpn to my vps - i can connect on to the vpn but cant connect to the internet through the vpn
[22:24] <dupondje> OzFalcon: I like audacious
[22:24] <Mandrew> i have problems with tethering
[22:24] <mdgeorge1> metaphlex: killall -9 lbreakout2
[22:24] <xim_> what command can i type to get the part of my gui that controls my window borders and stuff back
[22:24] <erikk71usa> hi can some tell how to fix boot up problem with 9.10
[22:24] <mattgyver> Mandrew, are you tethering via USB then?
[22:24] <epinky> assoguerozen_sx: /bin/bash and your're done
[22:24] <metaphlex> mdgeorge1, thanks that did the trick
[22:24] <OzFalcon> dupondje, Can it scan and categorise large mp3 archive?
[22:24] <metaphlex> :)
[22:24] <dupondje> erikk71usa: whats the problem exactly ?
[22:24] <Mandrew> mattgyver are you running 9.04 or 9.10 now
[22:24] <saji> mattgyver, I too have  broadcom bcm43xx. It works fine in Ubuntu 9.10 too...
[22:24] <dupondje> OzFalcon: doubt it ;)
[22:24] <assoguerozen_sx> epinky the problem is about sudo
[22:24] <erikk71usa> the screen goes black
[22:25] <erikk71usa> an sits there
[22:25] <OzFalcon> dupondje, :-)
[22:25] <ctmjr> xim_, metacity --replace &disown
[22:25] <mattgyver> Mandrew, the laptop that i use is still running 9.04, not 9.10 but i had no issues out of the box with 9.10 and per saji it sounds like it works
[22:25] <assoguerozen_sx> epinky tab isnt working when i write 'sudo' before any line command
[22:25] <ryan__> sups
[22:25] <ecolitan> is there a way to see what I have installed?
[22:25] <Mandrew> i would like to tether through usb cuz i dont have bluetooth
[22:25] <erikk71usa> it never gets to logon screen
[22:25] <mattgyver> Mandrew, okay I figured you were tethering via wireless which is what I was doing
[22:25] <sdfsd> when i update it says it faild to get packages "check connection" even though i have internet
[22:25] <Mandrew> ok
[22:25] <OzFalcon> dupondje, Banshee struggles a bit with 95gb mp3 and 933mhz 640mb ram pc. 8-)
[22:26] <trism> ecolitan: you can sort by the first field in Synaptic or do a dpkg -l | grep ii in the command line
[22:26] <Mandrew> mattgyver so you own a iphone know?
[22:26] <erikk71usa> any ideas'
[22:26] <mattgyver> Mandrew, no i cant stand the iphone.  I have an HTC Dream (Tmobile G1) which runs Android
[22:26] <OzFalcon> Is songbird available in Ubuntu repos?
[22:26] <ecolitan> i want to know what i've installed since the default system install
[22:26] <Mandrew> mattgyver ok
[22:27] <mattgyver> Mandrew, However I can tether via USB, Wifi, and Bluetooth
[22:27] <n8tuser> erikk71-> what happens when you ctrl+alt+f1 to f6 ?
[22:27] <mattgyver> I just use wifi
[22:27] <Mandrew> mattgyver nice
[22:27] <mattgyver> Yeah, do yourself a favor and throw you iphone in the trash, j/k
[22:27] <cody_> How come my ubuntu installs take YEARS? It has been 10 minutes and is still on 0%
[22:27] <Mandrew> hahaha naaaaa i love my iphone
[22:27] <cody_> saying "waiting for headers"
[22:28] <MikeChelen> are there any game server browsers that include friend lists?
[22:28] <epinky> assoguerozen_sx: complete -c sudo
[22:28] <dupondje> cody_: try other mirror :)
[22:28] <mattgyver> Mandrew, they are pretty nice ill admit.  Maybe theres a Mac support channel you can find that might know too
[22:28] <Jeruvy> cody_: not sure, start to finish I did my last one in 26 minutes.
[22:28] <briancron> I have an iphone and I almost love it, it was better when I could sync music with amarok
[22:28] <trism> ecolitan: if you used synaptic to install everything, then it will be listed on File/History, if not, I don't know
[22:28] <mattgyver> Mandrew, specifically a mac-jailbroken channel
[22:28] <OzFalcon> cody_, Probably tring to download something from choked servers?
[22:28] <cody_> dupondje: What do you mean? I'm installing sound-juicer. I already have ubuntu 9.10 done
[22:28] <rm200910> ecolitan: you can check /var/log/dpkg.log
[22:28] <erikk71usa> i guess no one understands
[22:28] <cody_> OzFalcon: Forgot about that, very likely
[22:28] <dupondje> erikk71usa: where does it stops exactly ?
[22:28] <sdfsd> mac support channel on freenode is mostly fail =/
[22:28] <Mandrew> mattgyver do you have a channel in mind?
[22:28] <notfoo> how do you change remote desktop port in this new 9.10. it's not in the REmote Desktop options(vino-preferences) anymore. anyone know where the config file is located????
[22:28] <cody_> Ill just download and install from internet
[22:28] <dupondje> cody_: the mirror that you download packages from ...
[22:29] <erikk71usa> just before the logon page
[22:29] <cody_> dupondje: Yea, i know, im just going to download the package from their site. Find a .deb of it.
[22:29] <dupondje> erikk71usa: errors ... what does it display ?
[22:29] <mattgyver> Mandrew, nope i dont use mac but check this out, http://xn--9bi.net/2009/06/17/tethering-iphone-3-0-to-ubuntu-9-04/
[22:29] <assoguerozen_sx> epinky lol, you just know it
[22:29] <assoguerozen_sx> epinky thx alot
[22:29] <erikk71usa> black screen
[22:29] <OzFalcon> cody_, Are you doing a live upgrade>
[22:29] <dupondje> cody_: no ... change mirror in apt settings ..
[22:29] <dupondje> you can do it from the menu
[22:29] <epinky> assoguerozen_sx: you're welcome
[22:29] <ecolitan> dpkg.log is huge
[22:29] <Mandrew> that one use the blutooth
[22:30] <demonspork> I need to install the 64bit and 32 bit flash plugins side by side in 9.10, How do I do this?  I need the 32 bit version for google chrome, and the 64bit version for firefox
[22:30] <cody_> OzFalcon: I alreday have it installed. I downloaded alternate CD through torrent, mounted and updated
[22:30] <erikk71usa> the monitor is on
[22:30] <Xgates> Mandrew: http://community.spiceworks.com/how_to/show/746   ----   http://dev.squarecows.com/2009/05/06/iphone-linux-tethering-via-usb-cable/
[22:30] <gummi> dupondje, it doesnt detect the debian partition, only the ubuntu one. so I end up with the same grublist
[22:30] <OzFalcon> cody_, ah. ok. I'm just about to do the same. ;-)
[22:30] <mattgyver> Mandrew, sorry i thought my link that went over USB it does not
[22:30] <RichardWolfVI> Greetings, I would like to know how to customize my Compose Key combinations in Karmic.
[22:30] <cody_> OzFalcon: It is much faster. :P
[22:30] <oddhyena> hi
[22:30] <rhombintrunk> I'm having boot problems with Ubuntu 9.10.  I updated to Karmic using the torrent, mounting the iso and running it offline. It looked successful. When I reboot, it goes to grub, I pick the boot to Ubuntu 9.10 option and it goes to the grub loader "Booting from extblah, partition blah, et cetera". It then goes to a while Ubuntu logo followed by the grub loading screen again, except the text flashes continuously. Does an
[22:30] <rhombintrunk> yone know what is wrong?
[22:30] <kosmic> libc-2.10.1.so <<< this thing keeps segfaulting on me
[22:31] <erikk71usa> is there a way to fix it
[22:31] <Mandrew> Xgates thanks
[22:31] <cody_> wtf? Isnt apt supposed to get all the dependencies installed without telling you :\ lol
[22:31] <Mandrew> mattgyver no problem
[22:31] <kosmic> google makes it known that others also have issues with libc-2.10.1.so going nuts
[22:31] <TiDjY> I try to make a relation of approbation of domain under two waiter samba. An idea?
[22:31] <trism> ecolitan: try cat /var/log/dpkg.log | grep "status installed" | tail -n 50; that will show the last 50 packages installed
[22:31] <OzFalcon> cody_, Yeah, agreed. My torrent is coming in at 1mb/sec. But connections to Cannonical/Mirrors is SLOW>
[22:31] <cody_> how do i change mirrors to uk
[22:31] <oddhyena> is there any way I can remotely control my canon eos digital camera with ubuntu? I used to have a program in windows to do that but it won't work in wine. I want to be able to do stuff like set a timer so that it takes an image every 10 seconds
[22:32] <shadowtrk> hello
[22:32] <Mandrew> Xgates it that with a jailbroken iphone?
[22:32] <Sagaci> cody_: system > administration > software sources
[22:32] <erikk71usa> im having same problem
[22:32] <cody_> OzFalcon: YEA, VERY. I used it and downloaded the 698 MB, then seeded 1GB of it :P
[22:32] <saji> shadowtrk, what is ur problem?
[22:32] <erikk71usa> the screen just sits there
[22:32] <ulrike> hello!
[22:32] <cody_> Sagaci: thank you
[22:33] <dupondje> erikk71usa: 'there' ..
[22:33] <cody_> Sagaci: whta do i change?
[22:33] <ecolitan> thanks trism, i found that dpkg -l | grep ii | awk '{ print $2 }' gives a good (although long) output, whih i can just sift through
[22:33] <cody_> 9.10 not 9.04 to let ya know
[22:33] <dupondje> could you maby take screen or so ? cause its hard to know whats wrong now ..
[22:33] <oddhyena> Is it even possible to control a digital camera in linux?
[22:33] <Xgates> Mandrew: yeah looks like you have to jailbreak, I guess you could always use like VirtualBox or Vmware and does this....
[22:33] <dupondje> what you see on the scrren ?
[22:33] <erikk71usa> yes
[22:34] <cody_> Sagaci: Nevermind found it
[22:34] <dupondje> erikk71usa: what does the screen says ...
[22:34] <Basso> how do i change default download location on ubuntu server 9.10?
[22:34] <ulrike> does anybody know which services are responsible for mounting devices in ubuntu? (not "mount" cos it doesn't work for cdrom,floppy, and 1 partition at least)
[22:34] <erikk71usa> it says nothing
[22:34] <cody_> Ubutnu 91.0 removed sound-juicer :\
[22:34] <Sagaci> cody_: always look around a bit
[22:34] <erikk71usa> its black
[22:34] <cody_> Sagaci: Yea, lol
[22:35] <cody_> 9.10*
[22:35] <damnterminal> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75420 -- is there another, maybe gnome-wide way to put gnome-terminal tabs at the bottom?
[22:35] <dupondje> Basso: apt-mirror
[22:35] <Basso> how do i change default download location on ubuntu server 9.10?, im currently downloading updates from US, and its slow as shais :(
[22:35] <saihtam> ulrike: man mount
[22:35] <dupondje> Basso: or manually in /etc/apt/sources.list
[22:35] <fager> oh my.... more weird problems with 9.10. default gnome theme is always the one showing up after login. I have to go to system->pref->theme after login to get my windowborders and colors. But the desktop icons whill remain gnome default.... Whats the problem?
[22:35] <ulrike> saihtam: have read it already more than once.
[22:35] <briancron> Mandrew: this looks promising http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-connect-iphoneipod-touch-using-usbin-karmicjauntyintrepidhardy.html
[22:36] <shadowtrk> Hello everyone, Im haveing an issue my touchpad(Synaptics) the left button does not work ( i had it set to left hand in 9.04) but now in 9.10 it does not work stuck in right hand mode
[22:36] <saihtam> ulrike: u have options for diffrent filesystems there
[22:36] <oddhyena> i have been googling everywhere for a way to control my camera remotely in ubuntu but it only brings up gtkam which doesn't do remote capture, I need it because i'm going to do time lapse and stop motion
[22:36] <Sagaci> cody_: you'll have to reenable medibuntu too after the upgrade
[22:36] <erikk71usa> sorry 9.10 has bug issues
[22:36] <egoTripper88> 9.10 is great in facti maght just to afreshh install of 9.10 on the replacemnet drive i hadr to reorder from neweggg
[22:36] <cody_> Sagaci: I did lol
[22:36] <cody_> IT doesnt detect disc :\
[22:37] <ulrike> saihtam: yes,one fat partition can't be mounted,even the cdrom devices and floppy
[22:37] <r00to3> 9.10 is awesome, no problems yet. Thank You!
[22:37] <briancron> Mandrew: actually judging by the comments it doesn't look like it works. I can mount and browse the iphone with ssh but I jailbroke it
[22:37] <Mandrew> briancron thank you
[22:37] <saihtam> ulrike: what kind of error msg do u get?
[22:37] <cody_> dang O_O Mirror is 7x as fast :D
[22:37] <Dist-> can I please get some help. 9.10 has destroyed flash on my system
[22:37] <Dist-> which has inturn ruined lots of other stuff
[22:38] <dupondje> erikk71usa: try booting with vesa ..
[22:38] <Mandrew> ok
[22:38] <cody_> how do i set songbird as my defauly music player?
[22:38] <ulrike> saihtam: wrong fs mostly. but i typed the right fs.
[22:38] <fager> r00to3: I had nothing but problems with 9.10... Now I can't change the icon theme
[22:38] <shadowtrk> Hello everyone, Im haveing an issue my touchpad(Synaptics) the left button does not work ( i had it set to left hand in 9.04) but now in 9.10 it does not work, its stuck in right hand mode
[22:38] <ulrike> s/mostly/everytime
[22:38] <tPl0ch> Setting Controller::$data to an Xml object as is done now is dumb. Instead, the Xml class should be used to simply convert the data into an array. <- What does that mean in the to-to list
[22:38] <saihtam> ulrike: and are u sure it is the right device?
[22:39] <saihtam> ulrike: try force if it is usb disk and you have used it in windows before
[22:39] <Dist-> If i try to remove flash with dpkg -r adobe-flashplugin I get an error about it being in a very bad, unconsistent state and to reinstall before removing
[22:39] <Dist-> if i try to install from the .deb installer i get an error about no alternatives for iceape-flashplugin
[22:40] <Xgates> how do you dmseg grep the tail end to see it?
[22:40] <Xgates> I forgot the grep tail cmd
[22:40] <Dist-> so i cant install from the .deb, and i cant remove. Both synaptic package manger and ubutnu updater now wont work, because they detect the error and refuse to run due to it
[22:40] <Tiger_Rawrr> guys i am getting one perticular error errno 5 input output error when trying to install ubuntu 8.10
[22:40] <prodigel> hi all. after updating to karmic koala I've noticed xterm got white background and black text. I want it reversed as it was before karmic. Thanks
[22:40] <ulrike> saihtam: yes, scd0 an scd1, even tried cdrom. for the harddisk i have tried the names for harddisk and the names of all partition, one of them doesnt work.
[22:40] <erikk71usa> no
[22:40] <ulrike> saihtam: i'll try again with -f
[22:40] <Tiger_Rawrr> does anyone get the same error
[22:40] <d3MMoNuL> Anyone got a sec to help whit something... hardware related? :
[22:40] <erikk71usa> 9.10 released to soon
[22:40] <mnemoc> hi, the update (9.04 -> 9.10) manager locks for ever (killed /tmp/.../karmic after 5h) when calculating changes right after showing me the list of packages no longer supported. anything I can do to (from command line?) to see what's going on or to finish the installation? running update-managed -d again fell into the same problem
[22:41] <gummi> I need to find out what (hdX,Y) I got.
[22:41] <danyel> tem agun brasileiro ai
[22:41] <Tiger_Rawrr> i meant 9.10
[22:41] <nsahoo> is there a way to remotely upgrade 9.04 to 9.10
[22:41] <Nachturnal> are there any known problems when upgrading from 9.04 to 9.10?
[22:41] <dupondje> erikk71usa: people ALWAYS going to have issues, no matter how long development took... Its just not possible to test ALL possible upgrade cases
[22:41] <gummi> I need to find out what (hdX,Y) I got my debian /boot/grub on. as ubuntu only detects it's own
[22:41] <nsahoo> ?
[22:41] <cody_> mnemoc: Download the .torrent from the internet, open it in Transmission (or ktorrent) and mount the file
[22:41] <shadowtrk> (06:36:09 PM) shadowtrk: Hello everyone, Im haveing an issue my touchpad(Synaptics) the left button does not work ( i had it set to left hand in 9.04) but now in 9.10 it does I really need help as like i said the left button is dead hardware failure
[22:41] <dupondje> nsahoo: ofc, change sources.list & aptitude update upgrade :)
[22:41] <danyel> e ai blz
[22:42] <erikk71usa> how do i boot in vesa
[22:42] <danyel> vc é brasileiro
[22:42] <Dist-> none can help with my flash problem?
[22:42] <Daveycal> i am getting an application configuration error with wubi.... so i cant install... any suggestions?
[22:42] <matthew1> Everytime I try to upgrade to 9.10, the Update Manager window dims and nothing happens.
[22:42] <ulrike> saihtam: doesn't work :(
[22:42] <mnemoc> cody_: so i need to do it from the cd?
[22:42] <sedeki> How can I get the "cube effect" on ubuntu 9.10?
[22:42] <dupondje> sedeki: install Compiz
[22:42] <vigo> sedeki: Compiz
[22:42] <sedeki> my graphics are really smooth now with the new upgrade (intel)
[22:42] <mnemoc> cody_: is it just a sign of collapsed server?
[22:43] <saihtam> ulrike: what filesystem is it on the hdd?
[22:43] <sedeki> dupondje, vigo I have compiz, i don't know where to configure the cube effect.
[22:43] <gummi> sedeki, install compiz-config-settings-manager open it and find the cube
[22:43] <ulrike> saihtam: fat32
[22:43] <London90> sedeki: it should be already installed, just go to display, under system and then visual effects
[22:43] <sedeki> ok thanks
[22:43] <penguin42> shadowtrk: do shift+numlock then you can use the 5 on the numeric keypad as a left click - might be difficult on a laptop keyboard, but it should give you enough left button to get to the mouse menus
[22:43] <saihtam> ulrike: and what command do u try to use?
[22:43] <shadowtrk> penguin thats no te issue the mouse setitngs dont work
[22:43] <Slapfish> HELP with deluge and flexRSS filters... how do I set a don't filter??? thanks in advance
[22:44] <vigo> sedeki: System-Preferences-Compiz, usually
[22:44] <penguin42> shadowtrk: Ah hmm, that'll be more tricky then!
[22:44] <ulrike> saihtam: mount -t vfat dev mountpoint
[22:44] <shadowtrk> penguin thats not the issue, the mouse settings dont work they dont take affect
[22:44] <saihtam> ulrike: fat32 should work with only like mount /dev/sda1 /mountdir
[22:44] <ulrike> saihtam: does not on this platform
[22:44] <vigo> sedeki: Or use the Command line.
[22:45] <shadowtrk> there was a bug report for it but it says it was fixed in gnome-mouse-settings 2.28.1 which i have but dont wokr
[22:45] <shadowtrk> lol
[22:45] <saihtam> ulrike: what does it say on the device when u do fdisk -l?
[22:45] <penguin42> shadowtrk: I have to disappear for a few mins, but you might try xmodmap - it does have a pointer button map
[22:45] <ulrike> saihtam: nothing :(
[22:45] <matthew1> This is very disconcerting. Actually, it's really annoying. 9.04 will not update to 9.10.
[22:45] <saihtam> ulrike: use sudo
[22:45] <saihtam> and same with the mount command if u didn't try that before
[22:46] <d3MMoNuL> anyone got some spare time .. that can help me connect a front side audio pannel please? o.o
[22:46] <Dist-> 9.10 seems nothing but problems :/
[22:46] <r00to3> Dist-, these people in here dont account for the thousands of downloads
[22:46] <sebsebseb> Dist-: Such as?
[22:46] <saji> Dist-, I now use it with no problems at all..
[22:47] <ulrike> sdb2 is like "W95 Erw." instead of W95 FAT32
[22:47] <ulrike> saihtam:
[22:47] <Dist-> such as flash being corrupted
[22:47] <Dist-> and because of that synaptic package manager and ubuntu update wont work
[22:47] <saihtam> ulrike: did u type sudo mount before?
[22:47] <matthew1> saji...such as it won't update from 9.04
[22:47] <Dist-> they detect the error to do with flash, then refuse to run
[22:47] <ulrike> saihtam: yes.
[22:47] <Dist-> ubuntu update at least offers me the option of removing the package, but that runs into an error
[22:47] <thepro> When I updated from 9.04 to 9.10 a lot got bugged.
[22:47] <thepro> So I just downloaded 9.10
[22:48] <ulrike> saihtam: what fs-type is "W95 Erw." ??
[22:48] <sedeki> gummi, hehe thank you very much. although it was called compizconfig-settings-manager, in case you want to know. thanks
[22:48] <Dist-> it suggests reinstall, but when i try to install flash I get an error about no alternatives for iceape-flashplugin
[22:48] <saihtam> ulrike: not sure to long ago I handled fat32..
[22:48] <Argos> hey evryone
[22:48] <saji> matthew1, Ya update is a problem... But on fresh install i have no problems at all..
[22:48] <saihtam> man fdisk
[22:48] <sebsebseb> Dist-: Some people got   Adobe Flash issues in 9.04 as well, and not much can be done about them, because  Adobe Flash is closed source.
[22:48] <dupondje> Dist-: can you !pastebin full error ?
[22:48] <Argos> i forgot my password how do i log in again
[22:48] <Scunizi_> Wow... kubuntu download w/ Transmission is at a consistant 1.34 MB/s
[22:48] <matthew1> well I'm glad I came here...I'll just wait for 10.04. For shame.
[22:48] <sebsebseb> Dist-: Maybe Gnash and Swfdec will be good enough Flash alternatives for what your doing
[22:48] <ulrike> saihtam: pattern not found it says for it
[22:49] <dupondje> Argos: reboot into recover mode, and change passwd
[22:49] <thepro> My suggestion is to back up files, then download 9.10 from scratch
[22:49] <Dist-> ill post the errors, give me a sec
[22:49] <Argos> thx dupondje
[22:49] <thepro> Updater is really bugged
[22:49] <vigo> sedeki: It is n System-Preferences-CompizConfig Settings Manager
[22:49] <shadowtrk> penguin42: THANK U SOOO MUCH that worked
[22:49] <matthew1> saji...I have a lot of customizations that i don't want to have to redo. A fresh install is my last option.
[22:50] <leagris> Hello, I just installed Drupal from the repos but it is outdated 6.10 and there are several published security updates up to 6.14. I think unfortunately, packaging has to bu very up to date for server applications. Too bad, I will have to rely on tgz manual installation from sources. I contest this policy of outdated vulnerable server applications. Check twice before relying on prepackaged.
[22:50] <Dist-> http://pastebin.com/m1ce3a223
[22:50] <Dist-> thats what i get
[22:50] <Dist-> both when trying to remove flash, and install it
[22:50] <jken146> matthew1: Have you tried upgrading with do-release-upgrade ?
[22:51] <ulrike> saihtam: fdisk -l even doesn't list floppy/cdrom devices
[22:51] <mathepic> Where is my grub menu.lst in Karmic?
[22:51] <matthew1> what difference could that make, jken146...it downloads everything from the same place
[22:51] <mathepic> Its not in /boot/grub
[22:51] <jrib> leagris: usually maintainers will cherry pick only the security updates and upgrade packages.  Have you checked if this is the case?
[22:51] <jken146> leagris: file a bug report if there are security issues
[22:51] <Scunizi_> leagris: drupal, joomla and others upgrade often.. it's best to get them direct
[22:51] <mathepic> do I create it?
[22:51] <ki4cgp> Hey, is there a definitive solution to the sluggish networking problems related to 9.10?  A webpage with a solution perhaps?
[22:51] <dupondje> Dist-: why you try it to install on this way ?
[22:51] <dupondje> with a dpkg ?
[22:51] <Bodsda> Dist-: have you tried installing the package in the repo's?
[22:51] <dupondje> and a deb file ?
[22:51] <sebsebseb> Dist-: Gnash or Swfdec, if you want to try  Adobe Flash alternative, and your only meant to have one of the three installed
[22:52] <Dist-> im a linux noob, i dont know how else to install
[22:52] <shadowtrk> why is apt-get update failing so much, due to everyone upgradeing?
[22:52] <Bodsda> Dist-: from the command line, type:   sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[22:52] <Scunizi_> shadowtrk: that's part of it.. it will calm down in a week or so
[22:52] <jken146> matthew1: What's the problem exactly?  Looking at the scrollback, it seems you've tried it with update manager but with no success
[22:52] <saji> matthew1, well I would still suggest a fresh install, as most of your PPA which you would have added will be deactivated during Upgrade..
[22:52] <dupondje> shadowtrk: what you mean by 'failing' ?
[22:52] <ayman> hi
[22:52] <slunk01> Anyone having probss with update manager not connecting to repositories - and apt-get has same issue in root
[22:52] <Scunizi_> shadowtrk: try with different repo's  .. some get busier than others.
[22:52] <ayman> any body help me
[22:53] <dupondje> slunk01: try other mirror :)
[22:53] <vigo> What sebsebseb stated is rather important also.
[22:53] <saihtam> ulrike: fdisk only lists internal hdds
[22:53] <Dist-> Bodsda: E: The package adobe-flashplugin needs to be reinstalled, but i can't find an archive for it
[22:53] <shadowtrk> failed updates sits there for like 2rs
[22:53] <shadowtrk> lol
[22:53] <slunk01> thanks dupo - but no go
[22:53] <shadowtrk> is there one file i can install from medibuntu to get all of the non free stuff?
[22:53] <matthew1> jken146...it quits in the middle of downloading. and do-release-upgrade has been "checking for a new release" for 2 minutes now
[22:53] <leagris> jrib: jken146 when I go to the drupal admin pannel it list 6 security updates but it can not be installed with the prepackaged version.
[22:53] <saihtam> ulrike: reformat the hdd and check if u can access it
[22:53] <jrib> leagris: file a bug
[22:53] <ayman> help
[22:53] <sebsebseb> vigo: Probably should have highlighted  Dist-  with that really, so they don't miss it
[22:53] <Dys7opia> yo what does it mean if files green in console
[22:53] <slunk01> none of thee repositories work - include the old jaunty jackalope
[22:54] <Bodsda> Dist-: you may need to remove it first with dpkg
[22:54] <p1und3r> does anyone know what after `sudo apt-get install expect` i can't use "spawn" in my shell script?
[22:54] <ayman> help here
[22:54] <dupondje> Dist-: sudo dpkg -r --force-all adobe-flashplugin
[22:54] <p1und3r> why after*
[22:54] <ulrike> saihtam: hum? i dont want to format the hdd, there are some data i need to access
[22:54] <jken146> matthew1: I see.  You can upgrade to karmic with an *alternate* CD (not the live one), i.e. without doing a clean install.
[22:54] <sebsebseb> !helpme |  ayman
[22:54] <vigo> sebsebseb: Is a learning curve, and that is what Backups are for.
[22:54] <p1und3r> !expect
[22:55] <Dist-> dupondje didnt work
[22:55] <matthew1> jken146, after do-release-upgrade, the update manager popped up. I clicked get upgrade...and the window dimmed.
[22:55] <Dys7opia> easy question; green files in console, whats the status
[22:55] <dupondje> Dist-: 'didn't work?'
[22:55] <sebsebseb> !work |  Dist-
[22:55] <shadowtrk> IS there one package in the medibuntu repo that will download all of the non-free stuff?
[22:55] <jken146> matthew1: do-release-upgrade should not make the update manager pop up.  It's a command line tool.
[22:55] <jken146> shadowtrk: No.
[22:55] <Kazorin> I'm having an issue updating the distribution to 9.10.  It says that it can't find ubuntu-minimal after updating my package information.
[22:55] <paolo> hi. I am writing from an xterm session. I installed ubuntu 9.10, but xorg immediately freezes because of the intel video card. I have installed ex novo, but previously I had an upgraded ubuntu 9.04 to 9.10 and I know that the whole thing works with kernel 2.6.28-16. How can I install it? (I can't find it in the repos)
[22:56] <XX01XX> Oh wow.   The cusrty old timer snark has been automated.
[22:56] <Dist-> patebin.com/m69b3fd27
[22:56] <Slapfish> hello...does anyone know how to set a 'don't' filter on FlexRSS of deluge?
[22:56] <lordganesh> how could i get address of command
[22:56] <Dist-> thats what happened when i tried to force-all remove
[22:56] <jrib> leagris: http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/universe/d/drupal6/drupal6_6.10-1ubuntu0.1/changelog I see several security patches there as recent as the 25th of october
[22:56] <Dist-> sorry, typo in that pastebin link, http://pastebin.com/m69b3fd27
[22:56] <matthew1> jken146, I didn't click update manager...okay now I'm asked for my pw in terminal. I'll try it this way and see how it goes.
[22:57] <jken146> lordganesh: whereis
[22:57] <homanj> are there torrent downloads for UNR? i couldnt find them on the website.
[22:57] <vigo> Upgrading? http://www.ubuntulinux.org/getubuntu/upgrading
[22:57] <Hillshum> Where might I find log data related to heat management?
[22:57] <Dist-> lines 6 and 7 are also the errors i get when trying to install the .deb
[22:58] <jken146> homanj: http://releases.ubuntu.com/karmic/ubuntu-9.10-netbook-remix-i386.iso.torrent
[22:58] <paolo> so, sorry if I am asking again... is it possible to install 2.6.28-16 kernel in karmic?
[22:58] <Dist-> If i cant install, and i cant remove, am i screwed?
[22:59] <Hillshum> paolo: You would have to compile it yourself at least...
[22:59] <trism> paolo: possible, but doesn't sound like a great idea
[22:59] <trism> paolo: should probably stick with 9.04 if you want to use that kernel
[22:59] <shadowtrk> DIST can u repaste ur pastebin link
[22:59] <iholst> Hi, I need help with compiz
[22:59] <matthew1> ah...my apologies...it appears to have been a network problem. I'll see how the terminal install goes.
[22:59] <iholst> Enabling it
[22:59] <Fager> Why can't I just use the third button in firefox to paste an url? It workt before
[23:00] <egoTripper88> How can i enable the scro;lling feature on my int;liemouse?
[23:00] <Dist-> http://pastebin.com/m1ce3a223 <-- when i try to remove it, and install it.  http://pastebin.com/m69b3fd27 <--- when i try to force the removeal
[23:00] <n2diy> paolo: if it is in the repos, yes. Use synaptic and look for Linux-xxx-xxxx etc...
[23:00] <paolo> trism: when I upgraded from 9.04 I had both kernels, to me it is strange that the 2.6.28-16 kernel is not included in the repos
[23:00] <Kazorin> Can someone help me do a dist-update to 9.10? I'm getting ubuntu-minimal errors.
[23:00] <dupondje> Dist-: http://blog.ixti.ru/archives/6
[23:00] <paolo> n2diy: there is not
[23:00] <dupondje> try that
[23:00] <trakcyia> There are hyperlinks in my PDF, but when I click on them nothing happens.
[23:00] <jken146> paolo: It's not strange that an older kernel is not included in a new release.
[23:01] <n2diy> paolo: apt-get?
[23:01] <trism> paolo: apt doesn't remove old kernels unless you specifically tell it to
[23:01] <Dist-> dupondje ok ill give it a try, will let you know in a few min if it works
[23:01] <hugleo> hi
[23:01] <dupondje> Dist-: and try to never install packages from .deb files. Always use repo's !
[23:01] <shadowtrk> dup that has nothing to do with it
[23:01] <iholst> Does anyone know How I could enable Compiz?
[23:01] <Dist-> how should i install it then? .deb is the only way i know how
[23:01] <vladimir_> hi, just installed ubuntu 9.10 trying to enable desktop cube, can someone hint me on how to do this ?
[23:01] <Hillshum> iholst: Is it enabled?
[23:01] <paolo> jken146: isn't it strange that in a new release only a single kernel is provided to users? if one has a problem with it, one cannot use ubuntu
[23:02] <shadowtrk> DIST u can add the medibuntu repo
[23:02] <iholst> Im not sure
[23:02] <popkorn> Hi all
[23:02] <Kazorin> iholst: compiz-fusion I think it's called.
[23:02] <Jangari> is anyone else having difficulty accessing the repositories?
[23:02] <soreau> iholst: Sys>Prefs>Appearance>Visual Effects tab <- set to Extra
[23:02] <jken146> paolo: no, that's how ubuntu releases work.
[23:02] <hugleo> I'm trying running lexmark driver install (./startupinstaller.sh) and I'm getting the error: (gtk:10503): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_icon_theme_load_icon: assertion `GTK_IS_ICON_THEME (icon_theme)' failed Segmentation fault
[23:02] <Hillshum> Vladimir_: Install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'  with Synaptic
[23:02] <dupondje> paolo: newest kernel should be the best?..
[23:02] <iholst> It says I cant do that
[23:02] <Kazorin> I'm having ubuntu-minimal bugs when trying to dist upgrade :(
[23:02] <paolo> dupondje: *should*
[23:03] <_dean> hey guys do any of you know a workaround for the following issue.  Occasionally compiz disables itself and I have to enable it
[23:03] <hugleo> do you anybody help?
[23:03] <Jangari> i'm completely unable to use apt-get
[23:03] <_dean> any reason for this
[23:03] <dupondje> hugleo: prolly a crap coded or prehistoric lexmark driver ?
[23:03] <p1und3r> anyone else that installed expect have troubles using spawn in scripts?
[23:03] <kaeser> there is some migration tool debian -> ubuntu
[23:03] <kaeser> ?
[23:03] <shadowtrk> DIST: have u tryed looking in /var/cache/apt/archives and if there delete are reinstall
[23:03] <jken146> kaeser: no
[23:03] <XX01XX> Clarify:   Of the "alternate", "desktop", and "server" varieties, "alternate" is essentially an upgrade?
[23:03] <paolo> however, if I cannot downgrade the kernel is there another way to circumvent the xorg freezings due to xorg-video-intel bugs?
[23:04] <kaeser> ?
[23:04] <jken146> XX01XX: no, but the alternate CD does give you that option.
[23:04] <kaeser> oops
[23:04] <chemjeff> XX01XX: No, "alternate" is a manual installation
[23:04] <kaeser> thanks jken146
[23:04] <Dist-> dupondje thankyou!
[23:04] <hugleo> dupondje, I'm using ubuntu jaunty following the link: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7713382#post7713382
[23:04] <Dist-> i commented out that line mentioned in that link
[23:04] <Dist-> and the force-all removal worked
[23:04] <dupondje> Dist-: good :)
[23:04] <dupondje> Dist-: and now use aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree :)
[23:04] <egoTripper88> !flash
[23:04] <cosmo__> mööp
[23:05] <Dist-> thanks
[23:05] <soreau> _dean: Sounds like compiz may be crashing which could be caused by a number of things. The prime culprit is typically the graphics driver
[23:05] <Dist-> should i install everything using aptitude?
[23:05] <Dist-> i mean, is there any reason to ever use a .deb?
[23:05] <Kazorin> Is anyone else having problems upgrading from 9.04 to 9.10 distributions?
[23:05] <_dean> soreau: maybe install the unstable ppa compiz repository maybe
[23:05] <_dean> that might help?
[23:05] <shadowtrk> Kazorin what issues
[23:05] <lstarnes> Dist-: some packages are not in the repos but they are available as a separate .deb
[23:05] <dupondje> Dist-: when the package is not availible in ANY repository, then you might use a .deb :p
[23:05] <jken146> Dist-: only get packages yourself if you can't find them in the repositories.
[23:06] <dupondje> :P
[23:06] <dupondje> clear ? ;)
[23:06] <Dist-> thanks
[23:06] <Kazorin> shadowtrk: Same issue that's been reported on the internet in the past, it works for some and not for others.  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/463549
[23:06] <Plugh> Dist-: You may still need to use a .deb to install something if it isn't found in one of the repos you have configured
[23:06] <Dist-> i wonder how flash even got screwed up in the first place in the 9.10 patch
[23:06] <chemjeff> Dist: you might use a .deb if you wanted to install a package with a version newer than the repository's stable version
[23:06] <hugleo> dupondje, nedd i install any package?
[23:06] <Slapfish> anyone uses deluge?
[23:07] <dupondje> chemjeff: even then you should first try to use a ppa imo :)
[23:07] <Ioneye> Slapfish, yes.
[23:07] <ian_> hello guys
[23:07] <Plugh> ppa?
[23:07] <paolo> ok, I am really really sorry to ask again and again. Xorg crashes because of my intel video card (whoa should be fully supported, I mean, it's intel). therefore I cannot access graphically to my computer. Is there any kind of workaround for this?
[23:07] <mathepic> Aren't all the repo pacakages .deb?
[23:07] <lstarnes> mathepic: yes
[23:07] <chaos2fu> hii everyone, how do i mount my usbstick. Its sdb and sdb1 in /dev/????
[23:07] <kismet> hey dose anyone knows how to reduce gpu clock or ?
[23:07] <dupondje> Plugh: personal package archive :)
[23:07] <mathepic> Then there would always be a reason to use a .deb
[23:07] <shadowtrk> Kazorin have u waited for a bit i know i took me a few trys before i could get my system upgraded still haveing issues rescans repos
[23:07] <TheFearsomeFufu> Hey. I'm trying upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10. It seems that us.archive.ubuntu.com keeps timing out. Is there a list of mirrors somewhere which I can use for the upgrade instead?
[23:08] <jken146> chaos2fu: type 'sudo fdisk -l' and see if your stick is listed.
[23:08] <lstarnes> mathepic: we're talking about using a manually-downloaded .deb that isn't from an apt repository
[23:08] <Jangari> I cannot access the repositories to even apt-get update, so I'm stuck without any of my preferred software. It acts as though I have no web access, but I clearly do. Any suggestions?
[23:08] <EruditeHermit> hi, would anyone be able to help me speed up my boot? It has tripled in time since karmic. The chart is here http://imagebin.org/69558
[23:08] <Kazorin> shadowtrk: Is there a way to put the update through now, or is it impossible? I'm using normal ubuntu.
[23:08] <ian_> my nvidia video card was not detected in ubuntu koala but it was detected in live cd. any suggestion how to detect it?
[23:08] <iholst> Can someone help me enable compiz?
[23:08] <dupondje> Jangari: try changing mirror
[23:08] <philluminati> chaos. create an empty folder (e.g. /mnt/usbstick) then do mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/usbstick
[23:08] <jken146> TheFearsomeFufu: yes.  Look in System > Administration > Software Sources
[23:08] <Hillshum> TheFearsomeFufu: In the Software sources app
[23:08] <n2diy> chaos2fu: look for it in /media/
[23:08] <Yaya> Whats up folks
[23:08] <Jangari> canI do that on command with apt-get, dupondje?
[23:08] <Hillshum> iholst: Is compiz installed?
[23:08] <iholst> yes
[23:08] <jken146> Jangari: what error does it give you?
[23:08] <shadowtrk> Kazorin: u could try the Alternante INSTALL CD meathod
[23:09] <dupondje> Jangari: you can do it in menu System > Administration > Software Sources
[23:09] <Jangari> F: failed to fetch, jken146
[23:09] <Kazorin> shadowtrk: I can try, okay. Thank you.
[23:09] <Yaya> Can anyone help me out with virtual box xp install?
[23:09] <lstarnes> Jangari: you can edit /etc/apt/sources.list and the files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[23:09] <iholst> Hillshum: yes
[23:09] <acke> Hey, I am udating to 9.10. the update process is stuck, can i terminate it with ctrl+c and resume it somehow?
[23:09] <socks4anon> Yaya: what about it?
[23:09] <philluminati> Yaya. what's the question?
[23:09] <Scunizi_> ian_: the best thing to do is ... sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and then look in System>Admin>Hardware drivers and see if there is a driver there to activate.
[23:09] <chaos2fu> jken146 yes its there in the list..
[23:09] <jken146> Jangari: can you do apt-get update?
[23:09] <shadowtrk> acke; stuck where
[23:09] <Hillshum> iholst: Open a terminal and type 'compiz --replace'
[23:09] <jken146> chaos2fu: pick a different mirror
[23:09] <acke> shadowtrk: no-ip configure hosts
[23:09] <Daedalus-Sax> i need to install my nvidia driver, but i can't do that while xserver is running, and all the commands i have tried will not make it stop, what can i do?
[23:09] <Jangari> Ah, holy crap, as soon as I changed to the main server it worked perfectly
[23:09] <Yaya> I get error saying the biosinfo.ing if missing when i try to install windows xp
[23:10] <chaos2fu> n2diy it aint there in media..
[23:10] <kde185> I can't seem to boot into my CentOS partition now that I have grub2 installed.  I get errors like "no such partition" or "invalid signature" when trying to chainload.  Can someone help me in configuring grub2(or provide a link to something helpful, I've tried googling to no avail)?
[23:10] <Yaya> *biosinfo.inf*
[23:10] <kismet> hey, anyone knows how to change gpu setting ins ubuntu
[23:10] <philluminati> Daedalus-Sax "init 3"?
[23:10] <chaos2fu> jken146 how do u mean??
[23:10] <dupondje> kismet: all depends on your gpu ...
[23:10] <lstarnes> philluminati: that won't do it
[23:10] <shadowtrk> acke: not sure ask here again
[23:10] <MajorPayne> Is it possible to change the keyboard layout for gdm but not for the users?  Ubuntu 9.04.
[23:10] <acke> shadowtrk: during installing updates
[23:10] <socks4anon> yaya: uninstall the built in OSE version by snaptic and install the non OSE version.
[23:10] <nsahoo> dupondje: thanks
[23:10] <Jangari> jken146: apt-get update is what wasn't working. I just changed the server and now it's working fine. It seems that the Australian server is cactus
[23:10] <philluminati> service gdm/xdm/kdm stop?
[23:10] <Plugh> ian_: You could also just install the driver provided at the nvidia web site. I had to do that as the one available to Karmic didn't work.
[23:10] <Daedalus-Sax> philluminati: after ctrl alt f1?
[23:10] <chemjeff> Is there a way to install sensors-applet without first installing lm-sensors?
[23:10] <Jangari> thanks dupondje
[23:10] <chemjeff> I installed lm-sensors manually.
[23:10] <jken146> chaos2fu: there's a list of servers that you can use.  You said that the main US one was timing out.  Try a different server.
[23:10] <n2diy> chaos2fu: uhmm, try a different usb port?
[23:11] <lstarnes> Daedalus-Sax: try sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[23:11] <acke> My update to 9.10 is stuck, can i terminate it and resume the update somehow??
[23:11] <p1und3r> can anyone help me out with a shell scriptin problem
[23:11] <shadowtrk> acke: installing or downloading?
[23:11] <kismet> dupondje: i am working with an ati gpu on a laptop
[23:11] <acke> shadowtrk: installing
[23:11] <jken146> chemjeff: probably not
[23:11] <philluminati> p1und3r. what's the question?
[23:11] <shadowtrk> acke: i have no idea
[23:11] <Yaya> socks4anon: can you guide me thru the process for that?
[23:11] <Jordan_U_> acke: Chedk the dropdown
[23:11] <Daedalus-Sax> ok i'm getting it, so i should use init 3 first, then use gdm stop?
[23:11] <chaos2fu> jken146 i think u confused me with someoneelse... im haven't talked about any servers...;-)
[23:11] <jken146> acke: how far have you got?
[23:11] <dupondje> kismet: depends on your driver etc .. don't know exactly for ATI
[23:11] <kismet> dupondje: i would like to reduce power consumption and heat by reducing my gpu if i do not need it
[23:11] <Jangari> kismet? do I know you? possibly when I was Hoss?
[23:11] <ian_> Plugh, thanks i will try that.
[23:11] <jken146> chaos2fu: Sorry!
[23:11] <Yaya> socks4anon: can you guide me in how to do that?
[23:11] <Jordan_U_> acke: There may be a prompt in the terminal
[23:11] <Daedalus-Sax> philluminati: and do i use ctrl alt f1 or f4
[23:11] <johni> chemjeff, why did you need to install lm-sensors manually ?
[23:11] <p1und3r> philluminati: im trying to use expect to make an autologin ssh script, but when i try to use spawn it doesn't recognize the command
[23:12] <acke> jken146: it has finished dl and is installing the updates
[23:12] <ian_> Scunizi_, tried that already but no driver found
[23:12] <kismet> Jangari: could be :D
[23:12] <chemjeff> jken146: Then is there a way to turn a manual installation of lm-sensors into a Debian package so that Ubuntu thinks it is installed and will then let me proceed to install sensors-applet?
[23:12] <corden> does any experiencing "out of range" error after booting wubi?
[23:12] <Daedalus-Sax> ok brb
[23:12] <philluminati> yeah
[23:12] <corden> what seems the work out of this?
[23:12] <Plugh> ian_: I have an older video card. the 185 drivers in Karmic failed. I'm using 190.42 from the nvidia web site and they worked just fine.
[23:12] <chaos2fu> jken146 now i see, its hidden it says in the terminal...?
[23:12] <acke> Jordan_U_: chedk the dropdown, how do you mean?
[23:12] <chemjeff> johni: Because the Ubuntu lm-sensors package in the 9.10 repository didn't support my hardware
[23:12] <Jordan_U_> p1und3r: Why not use ssh keys? expect is almost always the wrong tool for the job
[23:12] <socks4anon> http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/3.0.10/virtualbox-3.0_3.0.10-54097_Ubuntu_jaunty_i386.deb
[23:12] <socks4anon> if your runing jaunty
[23:12] <chaos2fu> how do i "unhide" it..it was a bootable disk aahh i remember now, i tried moblin...:-(
[23:13] <corden> i dont have yet xorg.conf on my etc/X11/
[23:13] <dupondje> socks4anon: for god sake, USE THE REPO's
[23:13] <socks4anon> sudo apt-get remove virtualbox before you install that one of course
[23:13] <SporkWitch> so apparently disabling acpi got me over the issue i was having with my laptops keyboard and touchpad not working once the GUI finished loading
[23:13] <dupondje> and not .deb downloads :(
[23:13] <p1und3r> philluminati: i dunno how complicated is ssh keys i saw it up but i just thought an expect script wud be quicker
[23:13] <Jordan_U_> acke: In the upgrade window there is a triangle ( If I remember correctly ) if you click it it will show a terminal
[23:13] <philluminati> p2und3r. Normally  we use ssh keys
[23:13] <johni> chemjeff, makes sense :)
[23:13] <vladimir_> Hillshum, thanks, it worked. I enabled it, how do I turn it ? I'm not sure of what the hotkeys are to turn my cube
[23:13] <corden> this is keeping me continue installing ubuntu under wubi
[23:13] <socks4anon> dupondje: it doesnt matter
[23:13] <philluminati> No, keys would be easier, quicker and more secure
[23:13] <stsm> can i use xen on ubuntu 9.10?
[23:13] <Xgates> if a pkg(s) might be broke what's the dpkg cmd to fix? I forgot....
[23:13] <kismet> dupondje: so but it is generally possible
[23:13] <Jordan_U_> p1und3r: No, it will take longer, be less reliable, and be incredibly insecure
[23:13] <shadowtrk> acke: it might be asking u a question
[23:13] <IndyGunFreak> corden: why is it keeping you from installing w/ wubi?.. and yes, 9.10 doesn't use xorg.conf anymore
[23:13] <SporkWitch> now i just need to figure out how to make it see my internal wifi, sound, and webcam
[23:13] <acke> Jordan_U_: yes, it says do you want to update hostes for no-ip (y/N) and I said y and pressed enter
[23:14] <shadowtrk> acke: there u go
[23:14] <dupondje> kismet: its all driver dependent .. My Nvidia does it :)
[23:14] <acke> Jordan_U_: and now its stuck
[23:14] <Hillshum> Vladimir_: System>>Preferences>> Advanced Desktop Effects
[23:14] <socks4anon> besides i thought OSE is what was in the repos
[23:14] <curtmack> I just updated to Karmic, and GNOME no longer starts up with the system. I just get presented with a login prompt on tty1
[23:14] <Jordan_U_> acke: Wait for a while
[23:14] <corden> so what's the video config of 9.10? @ IndyGunFreak
[23:14] <kismet> dupondje: how can i check/look it up
[23:14] <Daedalus-Sax> philluminati: i did ctrl alt f1, then init 3 then gdm stop, because the init.d script gave me an error, and then it went right back to gnome, like i just started it up
[23:14] <corden> that's why i havent seen that file :)
[23:14] <Yaya> socks4anon: Thats the one i have installed
[23:14] <acke> shadowtrk: and now its stuck.. nothing happends..
[23:14] <dupondje> kismet: find out what driver you are using, and then google or so :)
[23:14] <corden> maybe if you point out what file to edit and im ready to go
[23:14] <Degle> ываъ
[23:14] <Jordan_U_> corden: It's automatic, you can still make an Xorg.conf if you want to override the defaults
[23:15] <IndyGunFreak> corden: i used a xorg.conf backup from my 9.04, adn just plugged it in in /etc/X11/.. and it worked fine... but i think there's a way to create a xorg.conf under 9.10, but i don't know how.. plus, w/ wubi.. who knows.
[23:15] <vladimir_> Hillshum, dont see this path
[23:15] <Yaya> socks4anon:the one from virtualbox.org
[23:15] <shadowtrk> acke: did u try hitting y again or enter
[23:15] <Degle> ктонибуть на 9ю10 ставил делюг?
[23:15] <acke> shadowtrk: yes.
[23:15] <shadowtrk> acke: sure its not wanting something else
[23:15] <stsm> !ru | Degle
[23:15] <kismet> dupondje: where is my xorg.conf located again
[23:15] <socks4anon> if you got to help about in virtualbox what version does it say?
[23:15] <socks4anon> go to
[23:15] <vladimir_> Hillshum, but i see Visual Effects tab in Appearence preferences
[23:16] <kismet> dupondje: and what words should i google ... sorry a kind of new with all that stuff
[23:16] <Hillshum> Vladimir_: System → Preferences → CompizConfig Settings Manager.
[23:16] <corden> i was able to install ubunti/wubi, but during reboot and load ubuntu at first time it returns "out of range" that why i cant continue the installation
[23:16] <gigasoft> how to make a voice calls via amsn?
[23:16] <docmax> i asked you for a good gthumb replacement... why didnt you tell me something about PICASA????????????? =(
[23:16] <acke> shadowtrk: yes, there are no other dialogs and no other questions in the terminal
[23:16] <ZykoticK9> socks4anon, dupondje  there is a sun repo for virtualbox puel version see http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads
[23:16] <janisozaur> how can i check if i'm running rc or final?
[23:16] <Yaya> socks4anon: 3.0.10 rxxxx
[23:16] <vladimir_> Hillshum, yup, i'm there . I checked desktop cube , not sure whats next :)
[23:16] <shadowtrk> acke: any activity on hdd net etc...?
[23:16] <sebsebseb> !final |  janisozaur
[23:17] <philluminati> Daedalus. you need to run /etc/init.d/gdm stop as root
[23:17] <sebsebseb> janisozaur: assuming all the updates  went properly,  which should be the case if you started with the RC
[23:17] <Hillshum> Vladimir_: Also enable Rotate Cube, then check the bindings tab on both
[23:17] <Daedalus-Sax> um, every time i use gdm stop, it starts, as if i just started the pc... it goes back to gnome
[23:17] <socks4anon> Zykotick9: What's the difference of installing the deb package though?
[23:18] <ZykoticK9> Daedalus-Sax, are you using "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop" - cause that should stop gdm
[23:18] <SJr> Can I install an i386 deb on amd64 architecture/
[23:18] <janisozaur> sebsebseb: oh, i see. just out of curiosity - is there any script or program that would tell me exactly the version i'm running?
[23:18] <docmax> you cant disable gdm start in karmic!!!
[23:18] <sebsebseb> janisozaur: went properly I meant installed
[23:18] <Daedalus-Sax> philluminati: i can't. it absolutely refuses to allow me to use that. it says something about it being set up under services and upstart
[23:18] <ZykoticK9> socks4anon, using the repo means you get updates
[23:18] <carpediem> Daedalus-Sax: do you mean "stop gdm" because "gdm stop" is not right
[23:18] <lstarnes> SJr: you shouldn't
[23:18] <stsm> can i use xen on ubuntu 9.10?
[23:18] <acke> shadowtrk: no, no other activity
[23:18] <socks4anon> yaya: i don't know then if your not running OSE and it's the latest version i don't know what to tell you.
[23:18] <sebsebseb> !version |  janisozaur
[23:18] <socks4anon> did you try googling your error?
[23:18] <toshiba> selam
[23:18] <jordy240> hi
[23:18] <chiwawa_42> Hi ! I'm looking for any feedback on the hardware support for the Dell Latitude Z laptop, mostly the UWB dock. Is it supposed to work with Linux ?
[23:18] <toshiba> hi
[23:18] <philluminati> You can't switch off the GUI in Ubuntu? seriously?
[23:18] <lstarnes> Daedalus-Sax: try sudo service gdm stop
[23:18] <socks4anon> Zykotick9: i see that makes sense.
[23:18] <janisozaur> sebsebseb: this doesn't report rc/beta/... or i'm already at final, though i doubt that
[23:18] <stsm> phillies_fan, of course you can lol
[23:18] <Daedalus-Sax> stop gdm does nothing at all, gdm stop atleast does something, it starts gdm..??
[23:18] <jordy240> is us.archive.ubuntu.com not working or is that just me?
[23:19] <philluminati> service won't work I don't think
[23:19] <carpediem> Daedalus-Sax: if you are on Jaunty, then you need /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[23:19] <Yaya> socks4anon: i downloaded the lastest .deb from virtualbox.org for 3.0.10
[23:19] <vladimir_> Hillshum, yup, rotating now. How do i set it to 4 cubes ?
[23:19] <trism> Daedalus-Sax: in 9.10, you do sudo stop gdm, because it uses upstart now
[23:19] <lstarnes> philluminati: it's woth a shot
[23:19] <Daedalus-Sax> i am on 9.10
[23:19] <philluminati> :-)
[23:19] <sebsebseb> chiwawa_42: Not sure, but Dell sell  pre installed Ubuntu http://www.dell.com/ubuntu also:
[23:19] <vladimir_> Hillshum, i mean make the cube with 4 desktops
[23:19] <sebsebseb> !hardware |  chiwawa_42
[23:19] <stsm> philluminati, of course you can
[23:19] <stsm> phillies_fan, sorry wrong highlight
[23:19] <trism> Daedalus-Sax: likewise sudo start gdm to start it back up again, they are just shortcuts to initctl start and initctl stop
[23:19] <Daedalus-Sax> ok ill try that, do i do the stop gdm thing ater init 3?
[23:19] <Hillshum> Vladimir_: Right click the desktop switcher in the bottom right and set it to 4
[23:19] <socks4anon> yaya: maybe try adding deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian jaunty non-free to your /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:19] <chiwawa_42> sebsebseb: latitude Z is a kind of concept-laptop with interesting and quite inovative features
[23:19] <janisozaur> sebsebseb: you've been most helpful though, thanks
[23:20] <socks4anon> yaya: then run sudo apt-key add sun_vbox.asc
[23:20] <trism> Daedalus-Sax: I just logout and go to a tty, and it works
[23:20] <sebsebseb> janisozaur: np
[23:20] <Daedalus-Sax> ohh, cool, how do i do that
[23:20] <kismet> in my xorg.conf file there it is named that my device "Configured Video Device" shouldn't it be something like ati
[23:20] <socks4anon> yaya: then do apt-get remove virtualbox
[23:20] <stsm> philluminati, permanently or?
[23:20] <Daedalus-Sax> brb
[23:20] <socks4anon> yaya: then do apt-get install virtualbox
[23:20] <socks4anon> yaya: that's what i would try and maybe after you remove updatedb and locate virtualbox and remove anything you can find.
[23:20] <socks4anon> including that file that gave you that error regarding virtual bios
[23:21] <stsm> philluminati, if you just want it temporary just do ctrl-alt-F1 , and ctrl-alt-F7 to get back
[23:21] <Boing_> something is wrong here I am logged on as Unkown; how can i get back to my name
[23:21] <philluminati> it isn't me asking the question lol
[23:21] <Omen_20> how exactly can the torrent on the Ubuntu website be corrupt?
[23:21] <chiwawa_42> sebsebseb: it's not sold with linux yet, or more precisely, it has a built in secondary cpu (arm based) with a cuted down linux, and the main OS is supposed to be windows 7 only. Question is, would its specific hardware will be supported (sidescreen touch sensitive area, ultra wideband wireless dock...)
[23:22] <buggyboy> can i have some help here or do i need to go to another room
[23:22] <user01> hi!  i just ssh´d into a computer on the network how do i send files to it now?
[23:22] <vladimir_> Hillshum, thanks worked, not sure why my desktop background is all black. It was black right after i installed ubuntu
[23:22] <buggyboy> channel
[23:22] <sebsebseb> chiwawa_42: I am not sure about the touch screen support with Desktop Linux, but I have a feeling it isn't that good.   Wireless is a common  issue for lap tops with Ubuntu.
[23:22] <Boing_> something is wrong here I am logged on as Unkown; how can i get back to my name
[23:22] <Hillshum> Vladimir_: Try logging out and then back in
[23:22] <MajorPayne> How do I chang the keyboard layout for gdm?
[23:22] <c3l_> why can't i get any sound in spotify? (running karmic
[23:23] <penguin42> chiwawa_42: You could try asking on linux.dell.com
[23:23] <jdahm> hey I'm trying to get my printer set up.  I have a Brother network PS printer.  The printer utility finds it, but then asks me what driver to use.  I installed the "cupswrapper driver" and "LPR" drivers from the brother website (.deb packages), however, it's still not finding the correct printer driver.  Any ideas?
[23:23] <sebsebseb> chiwawa_42: standard hardware and Ubuntu  most of it is going to work well and just like that,   not so standard hardware and your probably going to bump into issues
[23:23] <vladimir_> Hillshum, ok, not sure how to restart computer
[23:23] <chemjeff> Okay phew I finally got it to work.  I removed my manual installation of lm-sensors, installed the "testing" lm-sensors package from the Debian site, and then Synaptic allowed me to install sensors-applet.  Wow that took way too long.
[23:23] <MajorPayne> How do I chang the keyboard layout for gdm?
[23:23] <vigo> jdahm: Is CUPS installed?
[23:24] <janisozaur> !usb
[23:24] <boriz> nvclock QT doesn't let me adjust the memory speed, and the core speed can't go more than 100 mhz higher than default... how to fix?
[23:24] <buggyboy> the msttcorefont-installer links to some ftp sites to download  but the file can not be found there anymore how do i fix that  any help please
[23:24] <Hillshum> !logout | Vladimir_:
[23:24] <jdahm> vigo: yes
[23:24] <Boing_> I press log out and nothing hapeens
[23:24] <egoTripper88> BHow do i enable scrolling on my mouse in Xubuntu
[23:24] <sebsebseb> chiwawa_42: standard  I meant common
[23:24] <penguin42> chiwawa_42: And karmic does seem to have a few uwb drivers (i1480 and wlp whatever they are) - not sure I know anyone who has aver used one
[23:24] <Hillshum> Vladimir_: Click in the upper right corner on your name
[23:24] <MajorPayne> How do I chang the keyboard layout for gdm?
[23:24] <chiwawa_42> penguin42: thanks, I'll try that ;)
[23:25] <vigo> jdahm: Let me look around on the forums.
[23:25] <Boing_> I press log out and nothing hapeens
[23:25] <corden> is there anyway to force wubi/ubuntu boot to use vga 771?
[23:25] <gnckom> does anybody has experience with any video streaming server
[23:25] <Wolfcastle> hello
[23:25] <eboyjr> Hello. I made a patch for gnome-appearance-properties (Visual Effects) and I was wondering if someone would like to take a look at it and/or test it out? Where can I go for this? The patch is here: http://pastie.org/678374
[23:25] <ZykoticK9> MajorPayne, do changes in Gnome to the keyboard layout not affect GDM?
[23:25] <corden> aka 800x600 resolution
[23:25] <Wolfcastle> I just updated from jaunty to karmic and things are looking well
[23:25] <MajorPayne> ZykoticK9: Nope.  I even clicked the change system wide button and it didn't do anything.
[23:26] <Wolfcastle> only thing that seems a bit messed up is the battery monitor
[23:26] <needhelp1> my computer wont recognized blank dvds
[23:26] <needhelp1> ubuntu 9.10
[23:26] <Wolfcastle> it's showing less information, only says the battery is fully charged when hovering
[23:26] <BuZZ-dEE> hello which package do i need to  prgram java with servlets (tomcat)?
[23:26] <boriz> is anyone's vmware experiencing mouse input lag?
[23:26] <vladimir_> Hillshum, i just restarted same thing, black background. It was like this from the beginning
[23:26] <penyuan> Question: Does gnash 0.8.6 work with YouTube on PowerPC Ubuntu 9.10? Mine shows a grey box and nothing else...
[23:26] <Wolfcastle> whne I left-clic it doesn't show suspend or hibernate options
[23:27] <teicah> is there a graphical interface to control bootup services (anacron, atd, sendmail, cups, etc) in karmic?  Cant find it in System|Admin
[23:27] <needhelp1> penyuan: gnash hardly ever works for me
[23:27] <ZykoticK9> MajorPayne, that suggests it would be only xorg (/etc/X11/xorg.conf) that would be controlling the keyboard at that point then.  But I'd guess changing the keyboard layout in xorg may override gnome as well - you'll have to test.  best of luck.
[23:27] <Hillshum> Vladimir_: is compiz still running?
[23:27] <Boing_> BuZZ-dEE, which SDK are you using?
[23:27] <needhelp1> i cant get my pc to recongonize blank dvds
[23:27] <Wolfcastle> and if I pull the plug it instantaneously shows 87% battery left
[23:27] <Yaya> socks4anon: thanks, i'll give that a try
[23:27] <Hillshum> Vladimir_: What is set as your background in the appearance window?
[23:27] <BuZZ-dEE> Boing_: openjdk
[23:27] <socks4anon> yaya: np
[23:28] <Boing_> use Eclipse
[23:28] <MajorPayne> ZykoticK9: I already checked the xorg config, the keyboard layout line is commented out.
[23:28] <needhelp1> i cant figure this out
[23:28] <Slapfish> anyone knows how to set a "don't download" filter on flexrss plug-in of deluge?
[23:28] <smokey> evenin yall :D anyone know anything about soundcard issues with soundmax?
[23:28] <vladimir_> Hillshum, compiz is running, in appearance window i tried a bunch of them. Its black on anything i pick there.
[23:28] <jazz_> teicah: system -> preferences -> startup applications
[23:28] <MajorPayne> ZykoticK9: There isn't very much in xorg.conf at all really.
[23:29] <BuZZ-dEE> Boing_: i use eclipse. what do you mean?
[23:29] <Hillshum> Vladimir_: Can't help you much then other than pointing you to Google
[23:29] <stsm> can i use xen on ubuntu 9.10? anyone please?
[23:29] <curtmack> I just upgraded to Karmic, and gdm no longer starts with the system, instead I get a text login prompt on tty1.
[23:29] <curtmack> How do I fix that?
[23:29] <teicah> is there a graphical interface to control bootup services (anacron, atd, sendmail, cups, etc) in karmic?  Cant find it in System|Admin
[23:30] <ZykoticK9> MajorPayne, find out how to add keyboard layout you want to the xorg file -- info has to be out there.  i did it myself years ago.
[23:30] <cantigas> jazz_: many services disappeared from system -> preferences -> startup applications anywhere else to get at them graphically
[23:30] <MajorPayne> ZykoticK9: I don't think the system keyboard layout is controled by xorg.conf anymore.  Otherwise it would be in there and it would just be a mater of changing it.
[23:30] <Hillshum> cantigas: gedit?
[23:30] <haroelcabo> hi, how's the name of the new version of framebuffer that comes with ubuntu 9.10 ?
[23:31] <buggyboy> anyone know how to install msttcorefonts
[23:31] <ZykoticK9> MajorPayne, it won't show up by default in Ubuntu - but the SETTING has to be available.
[23:31] <BuZZ-dEE> Boing_: can you help me ?
[23:31] <yeat> Is anyone else having issues with live migration of ubuntu VMs (9.04 jeos images) on 9.10 server edition- my VMs were migrating fine between two 9.04 server edition hosts before, but the same VMs fail on 9.10 (they hang immediately after migrating but show up as "running" on the destination VM server and "shutdown" on the source VM server)
[23:31] <stapel> I installed 9.10 64bit on my pc and now it won't boot up. It says - gave up waiting for root device ...dropping to shell
[23:31] <cantigas> Hillshum: gedit what?
[23:32] <vigo> jdahm: Here is the or a forum page on that: http://ubuntuforums.org/search.php?s=c038fe1dd0a33d609418d8d9ce2a1d3f&searchid=66053065
[23:32] <buggyboy> anyone know how to install msttcorefonts
[23:32] <buggyboy> anyone know how to install msttcorefonts
[23:32] <buggyboy> anyone know how to install msttcorefonts
[23:32] <FloodBot2> buggyboy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:32] <Hillshum> cantigas: I don't know personally. But gedit would be a graphical way of getting to it...
[23:32] <Timmymayes> guys
[23:32] <oldjingleballics> buggyboy, restricted extras
[23:32] <ljl> !fonts > buggyboy
[23:32] <needhelp1> my pc wont reconigize blank dvds
[23:32] <Dukkan> buggyboy, $ sudo apt-get install name_package
[23:32] <needhelp1> i cant get it to work
[23:32] <Yaya> socks4anon: whats the command to remove VB?
[23:33] <Timmymayes> i'm having my roommate test out ubuntu on his dell inspirion 1301
[23:33] <Timmymayes> but he cannot get online
[23:33] <Timmymayes> which miffs him
[23:33] <Timmymayes> how do i setup the wlan0 if its not auto configed like mine did
[23:33] <Hillshum> Timmymayes: I don't blame him
[23:33] <Ratapoil> I upgraded my Dell XPS M1330 to 9.10. Boots fine, I see a splash screen, I see the usual grey lines of the gnome panels on top and bottom of the screen with a blackbackground, but then the screen gets all white. I only see the cursor on a white background. But gnome is runnnig fine, I can click my panel launchers etc. I figure it might be compiz that doesn't work anymore? How can I disable compiz in the shell, since I'm working bli
[23:34] <penyuan> Is there an alternative to Gnash 0.86 for PowerPC Ubuntu 9.10? I've tried swfdec 0.9.2 but its very choppy on Youtube.
[23:34] <g_> hi, what can i use to edit movies with a good ui, and basic effects?
[23:34] <VCoolio> if I do something with notify-send in terminal it works except in screen or now in Karmic with byobu; I get: libnotify-Message: Unable to get session bus: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-EGYtyJCMJ9: Connection refused
[23:34] <doltek> I am looking for a winamp like program. Where do I find one?
[23:34] <penyuan> Official Adobe flash plugin doesn't support PowerPC.
[23:34] <needhelp1> penyuan: there is adobe flash for ubuntu now
[23:34] <c3l_> why can't i get any sound in spotify? (running karmic
[23:34] <needhelp1> ahh
[23:34] <g_> like movie maker, but for linux
[23:34] <needhelp1> my pc wont notice blank dvds
[23:34] <needhelp1> anyone ever seen this?
[23:34] <elky> is there a way to move the notification bubbles? Mine appear quite some way down the screen...
[23:34] <oldjingleballics> doltek, try rhytmbox
[23:34] <penyuan> needhelp1: Adove Flash doesn't work on PowerPC ubuntu, wrong architecture.
[23:34] <doltek> There is no EQ
[23:34] <Hillshum> !pitivi | g_
[23:35] <Daedalus-Sax> i was overdoing it, init 3 is enough to actually run the software, but now i get "Nvidia kernel module" error, it says it can't load it and it can't download a new one...??
[23:35] <g_> Hillshum: that doesn't have a ui
[23:35] <trism> VCoolio: try DISPLAY=:0.0 notify-send blah
[23:35] <Hillshum> g_: Yes it does
[23:35] <c3l_> Hillshum, http://www.osalt.com/movie-maker
[23:35] <g_> unless you're counting 1970 ui's as a ui
[23:35] <Shockrates> c am a kde user and i have a question. is kde in kubuntu less buggy than kde in fedora? i am asking that cause even though they both use the same kde version, kubuntus default gui is kde. so i guess its more tested too
[23:35] <Yaya> can anyone tell me what the command to uninstall programs is?
[23:35] <lstarnes> Yaya: sudo aptitude remove packagename
[23:35] <VCoolio> trism: you again? ;)  thx, but doesn't work
[23:36] <Hillshum> g_: To be honest, video editing is really one of Linux's weak points. Try cinelerra as well
[23:36] <madsen> apt remove?
[23:36] <Timmymayes> Hillshum: so how do i setup his wireless card ? i go to add connection and its askign for ssid and mac address
[23:36] <lstarnes> Yaya: if you also want to remove its old system-wide config files, use sudo aptitude purge packagename
[23:36] <needhelp1> my pc wont pick up blank dvds
[23:36] <stapel> stapel
[23:36] <needhelp1> cant burn them
[23:36] <joeyeye> how do I get fwd/back buttons working in firefox 3.5.5pre under Karmic ?
[23:36] <penguin42> Shockrates: If they're the same version I doubt there is much difference; Ubuntu will have a few patches but I suppose Fedora probably does as well
[23:36] <IndyGunFreak> needhelp1: whats your installed OS, XP?
[23:36] <volath> can anyone here help me increase my ulimit for open files.  I have already edited my /etc/security/limits.conf and added session required pam_limits.so to my /etc/pam.d/common-session but I am still getting 1024 for ulimit -n
[23:36] <twal321> Clean install Karmic final as VMware Fusion guest - no audio  / choppy audio - where can I find help?
[23:36] <Shockrates> but kubuntu is a complete distro
[23:37] <joeyeye> how do I get fwd/back buttons working in firefox 3.5.5pre under Karmic ? (using the mouse)
[23:37] <gyles19> Greetings.  Update-manager offered to upgrade to Karmic, but puked when I tried.  The error message asks me to report a serious bug against update-manager package but doesn't specify where this should be done, and I haven't managed to find it myself.   Can I get a pointer where to find the bug reporting page?
[23:37] <needhelp1> ? im running ubuntu
[23:37] <Shockrates> kde fedora is a spinooff
[23:37] <needhelp1> dual boot with xp though
[23:37] <g_> ok, thanks
[23:37] <Hillshum> gyles19: bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu
[23:37] <vladimir_> whats a good way to install LAMP on desktop 9.10 ?
[23:37] <gyles19> thanks!
[23:37] <stapel> I installed 9.10 64bit on my pc and now it won't boot up. It says - gave up waiting for root device ...dropping to shell
[23:37] <lstarnes> !lamp | vladimir_
[23:37] <IndyGunFreak> needhelp1: and you're trying to burn a DVD under ubuntu, a DVD of what?
[23:37] <needhelp1> backup data .. pictures
[23:38] <needhelp1> it doesnt pick up the disc at all
[23:38] <zylche> Any help? My cursor isn't showing where its moving to if I have a key held down on my keyboard and move the mouse at the same time. Make games rather hard..
[23:38] <IndyGunFreak> needhelp1: does it pick up a normal disk?
[23:38] <zylche> Ubuntu 9.10, upgraded rather than fresh install, suspect this is the problem
[23:38] <needhelp1> i dont have any disc to test
[23:38] <penguin42> zylche: Any key?
[23:38] <needhelp1> besides blank ones
[23:38] <twal321> Clean install Karmic final as guest under VMWare Fusion.  Where to find help with poor audio?
[23:39] <zylche> penguin42: characters, rather than ctrl, shift, etc
[23:39] <c3l_> Vladimir_ just install the app (L)(A)pache(M)ysql(P)hp
[23:39] <Daedalus-Sax> something i read suggests i may have downloaded an old driver, so i am downloading again. could it be that 9.10 is using a diffreent kernel than 9.04 and there fore won't work with ubuntu untill nvidia catches up? i have had nothing but bad luck with ubuntu and gfx cards. i gave up a much better card beause ubuntu no longer supports it..??
[23:39] <DJJeff> any reason why ubuntu 9.10 can not play DVDs right away?
[23:39] <penguin42> zylche: Very odd!
[23:39] <IndyGunFreak> needhelp1: do they get recognized under XP
[23:39] <needhelp1> yeah
[23:39] <IndyGunFreak> DJJeff: copyright nonsense
[23:39] <nkei0> Anyone here use Virtualbox OSE (free) with Ubuntu?  I'm having issues transferring media between host and machine.
[23:39] <zylche> That's my opinion, got any ideas penguin42?
[23:39] <IndyGunFreak> DJJeff: use the medibuntu repository to enable DVD playing
[23:40] <Daedalus-Sax> i use the vbox from sun, works much better than the ose
[23:40] <penguin42> zylche: No, I've never seen anything relate key down with the mouse appearing
[23:40] <Hillshum> DJJeff: most commercial DVDs are encrypted
[23:40] <zulfi> any here like ubuntu 9.10
[23:40] <U-b-u-n-t-u> is there a lighter linux os than xubuntu?? I have an old think pad I want to install an os on
[23:40]  * penguin42 used the vbox on jaunty
[23:40] <nkei0> Daedalus-Sax, Is it free?
[23:40] <c3l_> DJJeff, why dont you just rip the movie or what it is and store it on your PC, easier to handle a file than a physical disc for every movie. diskspace is cheap these days =)
[23:40] <Hillshum> zulfi: That's why where here?
[23:40] <nkei0> U-b-u-n-t-u, slackware or puppylinux
[23:40] <wolf23> somebody help plz!
[23:40] <Daedalus-Sax> nkei0: virtualbox is free to individuals, not business's. so i guess that depends on whom you are...
[23:40] <IndyGunFreak> U-b-u-n-t-u: did you consider just a straight debian install?
[23:40] <nkei0> Daedalus-Sax, individual
[23:41] <c3l_> U-b-u-n-t-u, if you need light, go for ArchLinux. I love it, though im runnin ubuntu atm cus im lazy and I dont really care about light. ubuntu is fast enough for me
[23:41] <Daedalus-Sax> nkei0: yes then it's free
[23:41] <U-b-u-n-t-u> thanks for the info
[23:41] <volath> can anyone here help me increase my ulimit for open files.  I have already edited my /etc/security/limits.conf and added session required pam_limits.so to my /etc/pam.d/common-session but I am still getting 1024 for ulimit -n.  I am using Ubuntu 9.10 AMD 64.
[23:41] <nkei0> Daedalus-Sax, Which one is from sun?
[23:41] <epinky> wolf23: just ask
[23:41] <joeyeye> how do I get fwd/back buttons working in firefox 3.5.5pre under Karmic ? (using the mouse)
[23:41] <ZykoticK9> DJJeff, research libdvdcss4 - medibuntu not required - ubuntu is kinda close to having dvd/flash/avi/mp3 out of the box now with ubuntu-restricted-extras media playback is the easiest it's ever been on linux.
[23:42] <Ratapoil> I upgraded my Dell XPS M1330 to 9.10. After gnome boots. I only see the cursor on a white background. It might be compiz that doesn't work anymore? How can I disable compiz in the shell, since I'm working blind?
[23:42] <Daedalus-Sax> nkei0: try this link this should help you: http://dlc.sun.com/virtualbox/vboxdownload.html#linux
[23:42] <c3l_> why can't i get any sound in spotify? (running karmic)
[23:42] <wolf23> epinky,  why gfceu works fine with sound on ubuntu 9.04 , and now i try it on ubuntu 9.10 works fine without sound,and if i activate the sound it freezes? plz help
[23:42] <Hillshum> Ratapoil: Uninstalling it is the easy way
[23:43] <Guest43389> hey guys
[23:43] <LinuX2half> There seemed to be a problem with my sound when I'm upgrading my computer (ubuntu), I can't hear any noise but I'm able to hear with my headphones, statically......do anyone know what happened?
[23:43] <Daedalus-Sax> nkei0: ohh and all Virtualbox's whether ose or not, is now form sun, sun bought innotek
[23:43] <epinky> wolf23: it seems 9.10 sound is not working fine for some people
[23:44] <Guest43389> any one want to shed some light on me as to whats going on w/ 9.10 and nvidia support?
[23:44] <nkei0> Daedalus-Sax, oh hehe, i just noticed it
[23:44] <buggyboy> the msttcorefont installer links to ftp sites that have no longer the file available
[23:44] <epinky> wolf23: :(
[23:44] <c3l_> why can't i get any sound in spotify? The song doesnt even start
[23:44] <Guest43389> is it something an update will correct?
[23:44] <volath> Linux2half: in the terminal run alsamixer and make sure all everything is turned up.. I have had this problem before as wel
[23:44] <zulfi> dose anyone now how to get ubuntu tweak
[23:44] <vladimir_> i'm getting this output when restarting apache2 on freshly installed LAMP
[23:44] <cmartin0> how long does it take to upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10?
[23:44] <vladimir_> http://pastebin.com/m942dbad
[23:44] <zulfi> need halp
[23:44] <nkei0> Daedalus-Sax, Well, I use the free version and usb isn't enabled in it. I've tried sharing the folder I want to share and then mapping the drive, but it said that access was denied.
[23:44] <Daedalus-Sax> nkei0: yeah, sun likes to swallow copanies whole, but they are fore the most part the good guys, giving us open solaris, openoffice, and virtualbox
[23:44] <wolf23> epinky,  is there any solution for 9.10?
[23:44] <hugleo> I'm no able to access cups in localhost:631 .What the problem?
[23:44] <Nickion> hey guys, just wondering if anyone is having problems with the ATT quicksilver 3G card on Karmic 9.10...
[23:44] <buggyboy> the msstcorefont installer is part of the restricted extras but it doesn't work
[23:45] <Mike_lifeguard> How can I get network-manager to automatically configure my connections? Right now, it is saying 'device not managed' even though clearly I have a connection
[23:45] <vladimir_> i'm getting this output when restarting apache2 on freshly installed LAMP http://pastebin.com/m942dbad
[23:45] <epinky> wolf23: most of the time no :(
[23:45] <Flannel> vladimir_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP#Troubleshooting%20Apache
[23:45] <buggyboy> it links to ftp or http sites that have no longer the file
[23:45] <Daedalus-Sax> nkei0: my usb stuff works great in the free versions, but not in ose
[23:45] <SJr> What's a good front end for mencoder?
[23:45] <buggyboy> anyone
[23:45] <Mike_lifeguard> If I've set up eth0 in /etc/networking/interfaces, will that take control of it away from network-manager?
[23:46] <nkei0> NiteSnow, You may need to reinstall it.  Also, some people don't like the boxed version and there are other ones out there that work just as well if not better.
[23:46] <g_> Hillshum:cinelerra looks amazing compared to the others i've tried! thanks
[23:46] <zulfi> i need a link to ubuntu Tweak
[23:46] <Daedalus-Sax> nkei0: get it from the website, not from synaptic or add/remove applications
[23:46] <nkei0> Daedalus-Sax, Hmm, I thought OSE was free.
[23:46] <jgornick> Hey guys, with Compiz, is there a way to tell it to save my window locations/sizes?  Much like Windows and OS X?  It's kind of annoying to have to enter in each window position using the Place Window plugin...
[23:46] <nkei0> Daedalus-Sax, Oh.  Should I remove OSE then?
[23:46] <lstarnes> Mike_lifeguard: it would make networkmanager recognize it as manually set up
[23:46] <bazhang> buggyboy, they are timing out correct
[23:46] <Hillshum> nkei0: Of VBox? It is
[23:46] <NiteSnow> nkei0, wait what ? lol
[23:46] <wolf23> epinky,  are u sure, maybe there is a solution for it
[23:46] <dr3mro> plz how to dend files in empathy and enable av chat
[23:46] <dr3mro> i use msn
[23:47] <Daedalus-Sax> nkei0: it is free, it's the Open Source Edition of the free. The free is completed, closed, and totally functional. the ose is for programmers who want to add to it.
[23:47] <buggyboy> the file is not longer there
[23:47] <Daedalus-Sax> nkei0: i would
[23:47] <buggyboy> i tried many many times
[23:47] <Mike_lifeguard> lstarnes: k, I'll de-configure it there and see if network-manager can handle it :)
[23:47] <VCoolio> zulfi: here's the repo: http://ppa.launchpad.net/tualatrix/ppa/ubuntu
[23:47] <bazhang> buggyboy, sure it is, just takes a few tries to get it
[23:47] <kde185> when I do 'sudo update-grub' it says it found my CentOS partition, however when booting up grub doesn't give me the option of going into CentOS.  Is there any way to make grub add the entry to the menu?  I'm using grub2
[23:47] <stapel> please help
[23:47] <ANTRat> !clone
[23:47] <epinky> wolf23: post your error maybe someone know how to fix it (use pastebin if it contains lots of lines)
[23:47] <nkei0> Daedalus-Sax, Ahh, cool.  I've got a saved machine through OSE, is there anything I should do prior to removing OSE to prevent loss of disk space or anything weird like that?
[23:48] <Daedalus-Sax> nkei0: i would remove ose, and then download it from here: http://dlc.sun.com/virtualbox/vboxdownload.html#linux, (unless your a 64 bit os man)
[23:48] <LinuX2half> volath: nope, I can't still hear anything even though I had turned everything up except the head phones and line jack, its because I can't
[23:48] <volath>  can anyone here help me increase my ulimit for open files.  I have already edited my /etc/security/limits.conf and added session required pam_limits.so to my /etc/pam.d/common-session but I am still getting 1024 for ulimit -n.  I am using Ubuntu 9.10 AMD 64.
[23:48] <stapel> i've turned my pc into an expensive doorstop
[23:48] <wolf23> epinky,  ok thanx anyway
[23:48] <bazhang> stapel, how
[23:48] <Daedalus-Sax> nkei0: i am afraid that question i don't have an answer too.
[23:48] <twal321> I'm having sound problems too
[23:48] <epinky> wolf23: you're welcome
[23:48] <volath> LinuX2half: sorry man, thats the only thing I can think of.
[23:49] <nkei0> Daedalus-Sax, Okay, I'll just make some more space if I need to be.  Partitions are awesome.
[23:49] <stapel> i have done a clean install of 9.10 64 bit, now it can't boot up
[23:49] <gyles19> Ok, I see others have already reported the issue/error message I got, so I won't open a duplicate bug for it.  Thanks for the pointers.
[23:49] <wolf23> helpers!! why gfceu works fine with sound on ubuntu 9.04 , and now i try it on ubuntu 9.10 works fine without sound,and if i activate the sound it freezes? plz help
[23:49] <Nickion> Anyone having problems with kernel 2.6.31 on karmic locking up after inserting a 3g usb card?
[23:49] <hugleo> I'm getting the error: $ sudo /etc/init.d/cups restart ; cupsd: Child exited with status 1!
[23:49] <popkorn> same problem as Linux2half...alsamixer in terminal reports no such file or directory
[23:49] <Daedalus-Sax> nkei0: good luck, i know all my problems went away when i stopped using ose, i hope the same is for you.
[23:49] <stapel> it says - gave up waiting for root device...dropping to shell
[23:49] <zulfi> i need a link to download ubuntu tweak please
[23:50] <Daedalus-Sax> ill brb every1
[23:50] <volath> popkorn: are you using alsa or pulseaudio for your sound?
[23:50] <vladimir_> how do i set static ip
[23:50] <Guest43389> so does ubuntu 9.10 not work well with nvidia-settings?  Its not detecting my other monitor :-\\
[23:51] <IppatsuMan> Hi all. How can I force GTK to use 96 DPI on screen? I'm actually using Kubuntu and all the apps look fine now that I set 96 DPI in it's system settings applet, so I'd prefer not to install whole GNOME to change just that setting.
[23:51] <popkorn> appears to be pulse
[23:51] <bazhang> stapel, has it ever reached the desktop
[23:51] <popkorn> sending to dummy output
[23:51] <x4556> cannot view samba shares on my windows machines
[23:51] <x4556> no matter what I do
[23:52] <stapel> bazhang: no. i see small white ubuntu logo and after that if i press akey it drops me to the initramfs shell
[23:52] <Flannel> vladimir_: https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/network-configuration.html
[23:53] <stapel> bazhang: live cd worked though
[23:53] <bazhang> stapel, right. what about recovery mode
[23:53] <x4556> cannot view samba shares on my windows machines
[23:53] <stapel> bazhang: same problem
[23:53] <overdub> i'm having trouble with my sound after upgrading from 9.4 to 9.10
[23:54] <egoTripper88> 9.10 is the longerm support release right?
[23:54] <SJr> What package do I need to install for GTK windows, etc?
[23:54] <overdub> alsamixer from terminal works, and i hear beeps, but nothing else
[23:54] <popkorn> volath: had alsa with 9.04 & updated beta 9.10 about a month ago...lost sound
[23:54] <spirits-sight> Is installing MythBuntu from scratch better then installing Ubuntu then mythbuntu on top ?
[23:54] <twal321> I thought last LTS was 8.04
[23:54] <MikeChelen> !LTS | egoTripper88
[23:55] <erik14213usa> still cant get ubuntu 9.10 to goto logon screen
[23:55] <trampel> popkorn (et.al):  if it's any consolation, many folks have grown weary with getting pulseaudio to work and have lapsed back to alsa (or whatever)
[23:55] <joosengee> hi
[23:55] <joosengee> everybody
[23:56] <overdub> how can I change from pulse audio to alsa ? something to try at least
[23:56] <lorvax> howdy7
[23:56] <twal321> Where to find directions to switch to ALSA
[23:56] <erik14213usa> hope to god that problem gets fixed
[23:56] <jonasfa> Hello all.. Does anybody knows how to receive files over bluetooth? I'm running KK
[23:56] <joosengee> How can i install the virtualbox on the ubuntu server 9.10
[23:56] <nwillems> Hey. I'm trying to install JOONE(Java Object Oriented Neural network Engine), in the guide it says I have to change my CLASSPATH, where to do that?
[23:56] <joosengee> Someone can?
[23:56] <stapel> erik14213usa: 32bit or 64 bit ?
[23:56] <trampel> overdub:  remove all pulseaudio packages (except maybe libpulseaudio...) and install something like libsdl1.2debian-alsa instead
[23:57] <Hillshum> !vbox | joosengee
[23:57] <erik14213usa> it goes tries ro go to logon screen
[23:57] <erik14213usa> 32bit
[23:57] <popkorn> trampel : i have seen that when ive searched the problem. thanx. my sound card is Intel, that seems to be consistent.
[23:57] <yeat> Anyone else having problems live migrating guests between two 9.10 KVM servers?
[23:57] <overdub> thanks trampel , I'll try that
[23:57] <lorvax> anyone else enjoying the inability for mountall to mount your disks after a 9.04->9.10 upgrade?
[23:57] <joosengee> ubuntu 32 bit
[23:57] <joosengee> i386
[23:57] <stapel> erik14213usa: do you get the white ubuntu logo?
[23:57] <bazhang> stapel what happens when you type exit at the busybox shell
[23:57] <erik14213usa> i installed  it then i rebooted
[23:58] <erik14213usa> i get black screen
[23:58] <bazhang> stapel, looks like this : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic/+source/busybox/+bug/290153
[23:58] <erik14213usa> just before u get to logon screen
[23:58] <Jester05> bazhang, I assume you've already come across this.. I just installed the 18* series nvidia driver on ubuntu 9.10 and nvidia-settings is not detecting my second monitor.. any suggestions
[23:58] <stapel> bazhang: it keeps me in the shell
[23:58] <MikeChelen> nwillems: try editing /etc/environment see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217936&highlight=classpath
[23:58] <erik14213usa> yea
[23:58] <joosengee> how's diffent about vbox ose and non free vbox?
[23:58] <River> joosengee: in a termianl window try sudo apt-get install virtualbox
[23:58] <erik14213usa> i see the hard drive light access then it stops
[23:59] <bazhang> stapel, the link above may give some options, not sure of your hardware but those are some of the ones affected
[23:59] <Hillshum> joosengee: Nonfree has a few more features
[23:59] <popkorn> trampel : no input devices found...sends to dummy output
[23:59] <bazhang> Jester05, let me check the bug tracker
[23:59] <stapel> bazhang: thanx...i'll have a look
[23:59] <joosengee> on the karmic server, I can't use apt-get install virtualbox.
[23:59] <x4556> cannot view samba shares on my windows machines
[23:59] <lstarnes> joosengee: try virtualbox-ose
[23:59] <joosengee> it's some missing about lib* ?