/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2009/10/31/#xubuntu.txt

jason__has anyone figured out how to renable ctrl alt backspace?00:14
jason__for 9.1000:15
jason__anyone around?00:19
jason__has anyone figured out how to renable ctrl alt backspace in 9.10?00:22
AnimagladiusHelp please! :O I just did the distribution-upgrade to 9.10. I'm running Ubuntu 9.10 with xfce. Now everytime someone goes online/offline on Pidgin and everytime I change the volume, I get this annoying popup that says "xx%" or "$user is online" ... Any way to disable that? :(01:29
AnimagladiusAnybody, maybe? :/01:36
pteague_workwhere do i go to set what applications open what files?  for some idiotic reason thunar is trying to open a jpg with thunderbird >.<01:38
nikolampteague, right click on image and open with and select app and select it to open with it forever?02:15
pteague_workah, have to use open with other application even though everything else (gwenview, firefox, ristretto, etc) is already in that list to get that window...  was afraid i'd get a box asking for the path to it02:30
berhowso why does it take forever for the language packs to install03:07
berhowanyone?03:15
likemindeadServers bogged down.03:16
likemindeadSkip it for now. Do it later.03:16
berhowwill skipping muck anything up03:20
berhowhow big is it anyway03:20
_Techie_nope, not unless you want anything other than english03:20
berhowis there a way to only install english03:20
_Techie_yeah, dont install them english is the default03:20
berhowi didn't think i told it to install them03:21
_Techie_it installs them automatically if theres a network connection present03:21
berhowooh03:21
berhowanything elsse it install automatically with a network connection?03:22
_Techie_it will scan the apt mirrors03:22
berhowwhat's that mean, just like and apt-get update?03:23
_Techie_yeah03:23
berhowgood to know03:25
berhowthanks03:25
billet75I tried 9.10 on a new machine, intel graphic on-board, I have to buy a card to get the install to work will there be a fix04:44
billet75there also is appears to be an issue with 9.10 during install hangs when looking at disk04:45
billet75:'(04:46
BanjooieOkay so I have dragged an ancient computer of mine out from the /depths of hell itself/ by which I mean my closet, and it is on Kubuntu, feisty06:34
Banjooiethis is not particularly conducive to my getting it working as some sort of browsing/IM/telnetting side computer and people in #ubuntu are like 'go use xubuntu it will solve your problems'. Where do I read up on how to do this if my repos are all hilariously outdated06:35
Hans_Henriklets say the Kubuntu fiesty got no desksktop environment, how can he install the Xfce desktop ?06:35
Hans_Henrik(basically apt-get remove gnome)06:36
Hans_Henrikwups.. wait, Kubuntu use KDE xD06:36
_Pete_Hans_Henrik: apt-get install xubuntu-desktop06:38
_Pete_= xfce06:38
_Pete_Hans_Henrik: apt-get install ubuntu-desktop06:38
_Pete_= gnome06:38
Hans_Henrikcould som1 post a list of default repo's for Xubuntu?06:39
_Pete_Hans_Henrik: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop06:39
_Pete_= kde06:39
_Pete_Hans_Henrik: repos are same06:39
Hans_Henrikjust diffrent folders?06:39
_Pete_you dont need to change repos06:40
Hans_Henrikok06:40
_Pete_to try different desktops06:40
_Pete_also, all those can be installed same time06:40
_Pete_if so, in login screen you choose which one to use06:41
Hans_HenrikBanjooie: could try change from feisty main to Jaunty main (in your sources.list) then sudo -s;apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop;apt-get install xubuntu-desktop06:42
Banjooieokay, let us attempt this trickery06:42
_Pete_that doesnt work06:43
Hans_Henrik_Pete_: how so?06:43
_Pete_those xxx-desktop packages are so called meta-packages06:43
_Pete_if you removeone06:43
_Pete_it doesnt actually remove all desktop things06:44
_Pete_if you want to remove gnome/kde06:44
_Pete_google for pure ubuntu06:44
_Pete_or pure kubuntu06:44
Banjooieokay, this assumes I have an extremely up-to-date ubuntu installation06:46
Banjooiei...is it possible to have this xubuntu thing /while/ I gradually update kubuntu06:46
_Pete_?06:47
BanjooieOkay.06:47
BanjooieI have Feisty06:47
BanjooieThe problem is A: My repos are all missing, so I can't installt hings06:47
BanjooieB: I have no idea what it is I'm supposed to do to get this feisty installation to something not end of life06:48
_Pete_do you mean your /etc/apt/sources.list is empty?06:49
Hans_HenrikBanjooie: no idea if it will help but try sudo update-manager -d06:49
BanjooieIt's not empty, but the sources actually 404 on me06:49
Banjooiebecause feisty is ancient. I am going to try this 'just change it all to jaunty' thing and see if it helps06:50
_Pete_hmm just realised, feisty = 7.04?06:50
_Pete_If you want to update to that06:51
_Pete_I would go with clean new install06:51
_Pete_I guess there will be lot's of trouble if you never get it updated to 9.1006:51
BanjooieRight, I am trying to avoid things that involve burning Cds.06:52
_Pete_but if you still going to try that06:52
_Pete_good luck :)06:52
_Pete_and report here how it went06:52
BanjooieI am a man who managed to successfully run windows 98 without a single bsod for two years, i am all about the impossible and the terrible ideas06:54
_Pete_:)06:55
_Pete_that's the spirit06:55
Hans_Henrik_Banjooie: you gotta learn me how to do that some time06:55
BanjooieI have access to fel, terrible arts06:56
Banjooiein fact, by the end of the installation's lifetime06:56
BanjooieI had to start the computer, alt tab with no windows open, alt tab with one window open, alt-tab with two windows open, before doing anything else06:56
Banjooierunning a program or alt-tabbing out of this order would cause a kernel32 error that would crash the computer (technically not a bsod!)06:56
_Pete_:D06:56
BanjooieThe advantage: computer security ++06:57
_Pete_which reminds me always to brag about this, the current 9.04 running is most stable ubuntu for me06:57
Banjooieactually it's kinda funny, I ended up on ubuntu, like06:58
Banjooiebecause I wanted to get it off my hard drive, so I wanted to burn it onto CD but I didn't have a CD burning program06:58
Banjooieso I went to find a freeware winXP CD burning program but clicked on an ad that filled my comp with trojans06:58
Hans_Henrik_xD06:58
Hans_Henrik_bad day06:58
Banjooieburnt the CD, went into safe mode to try to get rid of it but the comp was so trojan'd I actually couldn't get into safe mode06:58
Hans_Henrik_btw how long ago was this?06:58
Banjooieoh, a few years back06:58
_Pete_lolz06:58
Banjooienow I just have one computer with Vista for gaming06:59
Banjooiedo not say wine06:59
Banjooiefuck you do not say 'you can use wine'06:59
BanjooieI am never doing that again06:59
_Pete_I got one game working on that!06:59
Hans_Henrik_for aloooot of games, you can't run wine06:59
BanjooieSo did I06:59
BanjooieOrgrimmar was /invisible/06:59
Hans_Henrik_xD06:59
Banjooieand one on linux for all my chatting and whatnot06:59
_Pete_Banjooie: you should change your taste of games07:00
_Pete_all old and good FPS are for linux07:00
Banjooie> Good FPS for Linux07:00
Banjooie> Team Fortress 207:00
_Pete_no07:00
_Pete_but unreal tournament07:00
_Pete_the 10year old thing07:00
Banjooie> unreal tournament07:00
Hans_Henrik__Pete_: almost every stupid anti-cheats fuck up wine  (GayGuard/Punkbuster/Game Shield/ to name some)07:00
Banjooie> good FPS07:00
Banjooie6_9007:01
_Pete_Hans_Henrik_: might be, never tried07:01
BanjooieAnyway, I am very particular about my games07:01
Banjooieand while I found a few on Linux I didn't despise, these were mostly small freeware games07:01
BanjooieI really have no love whatsoever for old FPSes, I have /tried/07:01
AnimagladiusNight07:02
Hans_Henrik_y07:02
_Pete_openarena/ioquake/unreal tournament/urban terror07:02
_Pete_are my favourites07:02
Hans_Henrik_any1 tried Prototype btw?07:02
_Pete_other games I play with ps307:03
BanjooieI have a deep abiding love for TF207:03
BanjooieAnd my various MMO addictions07:03
Banjooiealso I have found for some reason linux really hates flash videos?07:03
_Pete_it's like adobe hates to do opensource flash07:04
_Pete_which suxx07:04
_Pete_.. I have never undersood those MMO:s07:05
_Pete_long time ago used to play MUDs07:05
BanjooieIt requires a certain sort of mindset07:05
Banjooieif you play them with some sort of overarching goal of completion07:05
Banjooieyou are on a path to destruction07:05
_Pete_muds are still cool07:05
BanjooieI don't mind MUDs but they're macro city07:07
Banjooieand that irritates me07:07
BanjooieI don't mind graphical MMOs because macros are these things that make the game /easier/, not /livable/.07:07
_Pete_MUDs was something that drawn me to the internet07:07
_Pete_20years ago or so07:07
Hans_Henrikname tibia sounds familiar?07:08
_Pete_no?07:08
Hans_Henrikok07:08
_Pete_I used to play only abermuds07:09
_Pete_wizzed many on those07:09
_Pete_recently had been trying to get those oldies to run on modern linux07:10
_Pete_so far without luck07:10
Banjooieyeah07:12
Banjooiefinding decent telnet clients on linux07:12
Banjooieoh boy is that a fun o--DON'T SAY TINYFUGUE07:12
_Pete_I have always been happy with normal telnet07:13
BanjooieI have to write paragraphs for my various telnet things07:13
Banjooiethus: I require slightly more07:14
_Pete_others used to mud is consired cheat07:14
BanjooieI am physically writing paragraphs of text, I refuse to use a single-line input07:14
_Pete_right07:15
SingAlong_whats the command to start the terminal? I want to add the shortcut to the terminal to the panel08:00
psycho_oreosxfce4-terminal08:05
SingAlong_psycho_oreos: thanks! it worked08:06
psycho_oreosnw08:06
SingAlong_anything you guys suggest i disable in xfce? I'm running an Acer netbook with 1gb ram and 160gb HDD.08:07
_Pete_SingAlong_: why should you disable anything?08:07
SingAlong__Pete_: just to save some memory for apps that need extra push :)08:08
_Pete_kernel does that for you08:08
SingAlong__Pete_: I've already deleted the bottom panel in xfce to save screen real estate and stuffed everything in the top panel.08:09
_Pete_you know, idle programs are get swapped08:09
_Pete_so if they do nothing08:09
_Pete_there's not much if they are running or not08:10
SingAlong_oh08:10
SingAlong__Pete_: I saw this thing in dreamlinux sometime back... it used xfce too and the bottom panel was like mac.. with fish eye effect. how can i add that?08:10
_Pete_no idea08:11
SingAlong__Pete_: you've seen the fish eye effect in mac bottom panel?08:11
_Pete_nope08:12
rgnrhey all08:12
rgnrwazzup08:12
_Pete_never really used mac08:13
rgnrwho did the upgrade?08:13
_Pete_those who are offline? :)08:13
rgnrlol08:14
daqinghi all, I'm planning to upgrade my xubuntu 9.04 to 9.10, and I have downloaded the Desktop iso, and my question is could I upgrade my xubuntu directly from that iso file?08:16
_Pete_not without some heavy hacking08:17
_Pete_use update-manager instead08:17
daqing@_Pete_: upgrading from the Internet takes too long08:18
_Pete_well not too much longer than downloading that 910.iso ?08:18
daqingi use bt to download that iso, :(08:19
daqingbut I must use HTTP to upgrade , that's not fast08:20
_Pete_http is nothing doing how fast is or not08:20
_Pete_but your networkconnection is08:20
_Pete_..unless you have some wierd config08:21
rgnranyways ppl, is 9.10 worth to upgrade to?08:23
daqingyou're right, but i have to download 800M+ packages in order to upgrade it, and the connection must be alive.08:23
daqing@rgnr: maybe not, but i just want to try out. :)08:26
daqingwell, thanks for your concern, maybe there's no better way to go.08:28
slow-motionhi09:29
slow-motionwhy is open-office in the standard installation included? we have abiword and gnumeric. I think open-office can stsy as an extra option09:30
ochosihi everyone, i'm wondering why karmic behaves differently in terms of keyrings. i made a clean install, never entered a pwd and still i'm asked to enter a pwd for the keyring-manager on startup (deleting .gnome2/keyrings/login.keyring didn't help with that)09:49
ochosiwhat i'd like is to have *no* pwd for it (even thought that's unsafe, i know), i just don't want to enter a goddamn pwd everytime my laptop boots :)09:50
knomehaha:)09:50
ochosihey knome09:50
knomehoi ochosi09:51
Banjooiewell09:59
Banjooieis it really that big a deal if noone else uses your laptop though09:59
ochosino, it's not. but that's why i'd really like to reset the keyring10:00
XedHi10:26
XedCan someone help me troubleshoot an internet issye please?10:27
XedNo program seems to be connecting, but ping is working.10:27
XedI get a valid ip address too..10:27
ext4_doubthi, i am running ubuntu 9.04 and have the following partitions : / (ext3)   /usr (ext3)   /var (ext3)  /home (ext3)   and swap. I plan to do to a FRESH installation of Karmic. my /home partition's size is 130 gig . Since i do not have the means to back up my home partition, shall i keep it as ext3 or will perhaps the ubuntu installer migrate it to ext4 WITHOUT losing any data???10:45
jarnosext4_doubt: I'd suggest to keep it ext3. Do you have encrypted /home? Why do you have separate /usr and /var?10:48
SingAlongHow do i change the list of options i get for desktop environments while logging in?10:49
ext4_doubtno do, i do not have /home encrypted but i plan to10:51
SingAlonganyone?10:52
acehow can i make vlc's interface set to Gtk?10:52
jarnosext4_doubt: I don't know how easy it is to use old encrypted /home, if you do fresh install.11:02
ext4_doubtok, thanks11:03
XedNoob question, but where can I access the firewall settings? (xubuntu)11:03
XedI'm unable to connect to any site11:03
Xedbut ping works11:03
ext4_doubton a FRESH install would there be a problem if i migrate /  /usr  /var  to ext4 but keep /home as ext3  ?11:05
Carnophageanyone managed to replace the new gdm in 9.10 with the old one?11:05
AnimagladiusHi.11:06
ext4_doubton a FRESH karmic install would there be a problem if i format  /    /usr    /var  as  ext4   but have  /home as ext3? has anyone here done that and did not suffer any performance problems or stability issues??11:14
Xedlol #ubuntu and #xubuntu are so different yet so similar11:22
XedYou ask something in #ubuntu and u dont get an answer cause its lost in a flood... while in here u dont get an answer cause noones active :D11:23
St0n3-C0lYo13:09
SingAlongis there anyway to view unmounted partitions in thunar?13:26
SingAlongis there anyway to modify the settings of the notification area?14:32
skysonghello14:33
ubuntu_gabehello15:47
ubuntu_gabeI have a hardware problem with xubuntu 9.10.15:47
ubuntu_gabemy mouse isn't working15:48
ubuntu_gabeit worked with ubuntu 8.04.315:48
ubuntu_gabehow can I fix this problem?15:49
ubuntu_gabeanybody?15:49
ubuntu_gabeit's an Icon7 D100 USB mouse15:50
caustic386I know this isn't exactly the same, but anybody seen a problem where USB stops working after login?  PS/2 keyboard OK, but not PS/2 mouse, and USB kb/mouse are completely dead16:09
caustic386this is in mythbuntu, btw, so I'm thinking that there might just be a package missing?16:10
Balsaqanyone now how to uninstall alinux firewall i installed/16:17
* jarnos switched back to 9.0416:28
Tesssaanyone help just upgraded form 9.04 to 9.10 puter restarted and it just keeps returning me to the log in window my login name and password are correct17:50
gigawatthello18:09
gigawatti have a critical problem, i just upgraded, and now it seems that nividia drivers crash on boot.18:10
gigawattso i can only log in on that computer with a terminal interface18:10
gigawattdoes anyone have any tips on how to get it working?18:11
gigawattit boots with the old kernal18:13
shine1hi everyone, I am a newbie to linux and pidgin,  I installed xubuntu 9.10 yesterday on my old computer, but encounters a problem I couldn't solve by google: After I installed the system, when the screen with a little "mouse" shows up, the screen began to flash crazily. It then kept flashing on~~ If I switched to command line mode, everything is fine~  In the gui mode, it seems the whole screen was shifted to the right, so the l18:24
durtso the what?18:26
shine1hi durt, are you talking to me?  I don't understand your question....  i couldn't use the computer since the screen keeps flashing crazily...18:29
shine1Can anyone help me out here?  Thanks a million~18:43
jcollierdavismy sound doesn't work18:46
durt!sound | jcollierdavis18:51
ubottujcollierdavis: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP318:51
jarnosI am using lirc in jaunty. It does not work well with power management: My remote control device name changes from /dev/ttyUSB0 to /dev/ttyUSB1 and lirc starts to take a lot of CPU on resume, if I don't stop lirc before entering to suspend. Is this a bug in lirc or what?19:48
italomaiaHi! Good afternoon20:01
italomaiai'm having a problem with mplayer+xubuntu karmic20:02
italomaiacould anyone help me?20:02
skysongwhat problem?20:06
italomaiawhen i try to open any video file with mplayer, i get two error messages20:06
skysongwhich are?20:07
italomaiai'll copy them here, min20:07
skysongi installed xubuntu this morning and added mplayer. Been playing with that all the day and i didn't have any problem:/20:07
italomaiafatal error opening/initializing the selected video_out (-vo_ device20:07
italomaiaand! AO: [pulse] Init failed : connection refused20:08
skysongedit you ~mplayer/gui.conf20:09
skysongvo_driver = "x11" should be like this20:09
italomaiaok, video error gone. Pulse error is still there20:10
italomaiai changed ao_driver to alsa and it works!20:11
italomaiathanks =D20:11
italomaiaskysong, thanks!20:11
skysonggood:)20:12
heatherRmhello i can't log into my main account since i've upgraded to karmic. i can log into an xterm but not xsession. can someone please help21:31
jarnosheatherRm: I had the same problem with some sessions, such as Xfce and LXDE sessions, but not with openbox session.21:35
heatherRmyeah i'm using xfce21:35
jarnosI did a clean install of Jaunty. Maybe later I do a clean install of Karmic and hope it works better then.21:36
heatherRmi upgraded from jaunty and this started happening21:38
jarnosme too. I is a shame upgrading does not work well for Xubuntu.21:39
heatherRmthe reason i upgraded was cause i was having problems with jaunty :/21:47
jarnosWhat kind of?21:48
defsumHello everybody, excuse my poor language skills and lack of knowledge22:01
defsumI have just installed Xubuntu amd64 9.10 on my PC22:02
|Logitech|xD22:02
Sysi!hi22:02
|Logitech|9.10 is sucks22:02
ubottuHi! Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines. Enjoy your stay!22:02
Sysikarmic's good22:02
|Logitech|nope22:02
|Logitech|xD22:02
defsumAfter installation I got black screen with splashing tty and Login line22:02
|Logitech|i'm back to 9.0422:02
Sysisome problems still but i don't have any22:02
defsumproblem is that I can type password (characters are typing just after 2-3 try)22:02
defsumsplashing tty1**22:03
defsumI can't type password*22:03
defsumhow to get normal login menu and log into system?22:03
defsumany solutions?)22:04
|Logitech|bump22:04
defsumok, maybe you can give an advice there I should post my question on ubuntuforums? :-S22:06
|Logitech|maybe :)22:06
jarnosdefsum: does login work, if you just type the password no matter what it displays?22:07
defsumno, because it's missing some of characters, even if I writing in user name22:07
defsumsome of characters I should retype22:07
defsumto 'type' them22:07
defsumand console is blinking22:08
jarnosdefsum: you don't have to type your user name in the gdm login of 9.1022:08
|Logitech|jarnos, yea22:09
|Logitech|just click on user and type pass22:09
Enliktroszka /part22:10
defsumok, once again: I am starting PC, then appears mouse on black screen, and then appears blinking console black screen with: Ubuntu 9.10 computername tty1. username loing:22:10
defsumxservers is not running22:10
defsumxserver*, username login:**22:11
jarnosAre you sure you did not install command line system?22:11
defsumsure, just clicked Install Ubuntu Icon on Live desktop22:12
defsumnext-next-next22:12
defsumit's Xubuntu 9.10 Amd64 desktop22:13
defsumiso-image22:13
defsumproperly writted22:13
|Logitech|hmmm....22:13
defsumwritten22:13
jarnosdefsum: there may be some errors in /var/log/Xorg.0.log22:14
defsumare there some Safe Boot menu windows-like menu?22:14
defsumhow to get there?))22:14
defsumI can't even boot system22:14
|Logitech|ins recoveri mode?22:14
|Logitech|recovery*22:14
|Logitech|xD22:15
defsummm, what do you mean?22:15
jarnosyea. Press esc when grub loads in boot and choose recovery22:15
defsumok, I'll try, wait a min22:15
jarnosor was it rescue22:16
defsumhm, I got:22:16
defsummountall: Cancelled22:16
heatherRmjarnos: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=130846222:16
heatherRmsorry fell asleep22:17
defsuminit: mountall main process (461) terminated with status 122:17
defsumGeneral error mounting filesystems.22:17
defsumA maintance shell will now be started.22:17
defsumand same blinking >> usarname login:22:17
defsumusername22:18
|Logitech|can you log in?22:18
defsumno, I even can't normally type username22:19
|Logitech|:(22:19
|Logitech|xD22:19
defsumjust clicking first character for the 5 times)22:19
defsumsome times 1-2-3- times)) it's ok with username, but password is hidden, can't controll it))22:19
|Logitech|lol22:20
defsumyep22:20
defsumctrl+alt+del even working from the 5th try))22:20
jarnosdefsum: are you sure your keyboard is fine?22:21
defsumalso: it starting blinking between root@user:~# * Starting init crypto disks...    and   Ubuntu 9.10 user tty122:22
defsumabsolutely22:22
jarnosdefsum: maybe hard disk is broken; mounting did not go well..22:23
defsumI am emarrased by info message if I hit ESC while loading (mouse appears): General error mounting filesystems.22:23
heatherRmwow it looks like ubuntu has turned into too big of a distro to worry about the little guys22:24
defsumhmm, I have 190GB NTFS partition on this harddrive and it was working fine even hour ago22:24
heatherRmif when i get back i don't have an answer on the forum, i'll just have to find another distro22:24
heatherRma shame cause this is my fav22:24
defsum..but under WinXP :)22:25
jarnosdefsum: what file systems you used for installing xubuntu?22:26
defsumautomatic setting (use largest free space)22:26
|Logitech|9.10 version have ext4 file system22:27
defsumext 3 or 4, I dunno22:27
defsumis it possible to try Recover system from Ubuntu cd?22:27
defsumor just reinstall it?22:28
defsumseems there're no better way?22:28
|Logitech|defsum, install 9.04 :)22:28
|Logitech|karmic is bad22:29
Sysiwhy?22:29
Sysiworking great22:29
|Logitech|lol22:29
defsumI'd better switch on FreeBSD) Long time ago was planning to start learning unix from BSD)22:29
jarnosdefsum:  you could try running a hard disk diagnostic utility such as seatools22:29
Sysionly problem is sound muted after boot22:29
defsumbut embarassed by the lack of wifi-drivers22:29
defsumare they on distr. cd?22:30
defsumseems that not, ok, thanks to everyone for help, I'll try to reinstall it, and if it won't work I'll switch back XP :-(22:32
|Logitech|lol22:33
|Logitech|defsum, install 9.04 :)22:33
|Logitech|works great22:33
Sysithat isn't answer22:33
Sysikarmic works great for me22:33
Sysiin two computers22:33
|Logitech|xD22:33
defsumI was using 904 for two weeks, there weren't any problem, yes. I'll think about it)22:34
Sysithere is support left for it pretty long22:34
Sysitherely not problem22:35
|Logitech|after install 9.04 i'm have problem with sound and resolution...fixed :)22:36
Sysii haven't had any problems with 8.04, 9.04 or 9.10, i didn't install 8.1022:37
|Logitech|i'm not have problems with 8.10 (realy good version)22:37
Sysibut there wasn't so much changes for lts22:38
Sysibut now it's outdated22:38
|Logitech|yea22:38
|Logitech|Sysi, you have sound problem in 9.10?22:39
|Logitech|or not?22:39
Sysiwell, it's muted after boot22:39
|Logitech|:)22:39
Sysibut i don't boot almost never22:39
|Logitech|i have solution22:39
|Logitech|:)22:39
Sysiit isn't real problem22:39
Sysiand jaunty is too slow for netbook22:40
Sysiand as said, when i reboot only when there is new kernel..22:41
|Logitech|Sysi, in terminal type sudo mousepad /etc/init.d/alsa-utils and comment out line 372 mute_and_zero_levels “$TARGET_CARD” || EXITSTATUS=122:41
|Logitech|and reboot22:41
|Logitech|sound not muted22:41
|Logitech|:)22:41
Sysisound need to be muted at school :)22:41
|Logitech|lol22:41
Sysiand i don't want reboot22:42
Sysihibernate FTW22:42
|Logitech|ok22:42
|Logitech|xD22:42
Sysiwell, xdmcp has been made harder, but old computer is so fast with karmic that i don't need it :D22:43
Sysiand popups are in very irritating place22:43
|Logitech|lolz22:44
mnemochi, the update (9.04 -> 9.10) manager locks for ever (killed /tmp/.../karmic after 5h) when calculating changes right after showing me the list of packages no longer supported. anything I can do to see what's going on or to finish the installation? running do-release-upgrade again runs into the same problem23:14
mnemoci'm downloading the ISO, but i doubt "calculating changes" is network related23:15

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