[00:14] <jason__> has anyone figured out how to renable ctrl alt backspace?
[00:15] <jason__> for 9.10
[00:19] <jason__> anyone around?
[00:22] <jason__> has anyone figured out how to renable ctrl alt backspace in 9.10?
[01:29] <Animagladius> Help please! :O I just did the distribution-upgrade to 9.10. I'm running Ubuntu 9.10 with xfce. Now everytime someone goes online/offline on Pidgin and everytime I change the volume, I get this annoying popup that says "xx%" or "$user is online" ... Any way to disable that? :(
[01:36] <Animagladius> Anybody, maybe? :/
[01:38] <pteague_work> where do i go to set what applications open what files?  for some idiotic reason thunar is trying to open a jpg with thunderbird >.<
[02:15] <nikolam> pteague, right click on image and open with and select app and select it to open with it forever?
[02:30] <pteague_work> ah, have to use open with other application even though everything else (gwenview, firefox, ristretto, etc) is already in that list to get that window...  was afraid i'd get a box asking for the path to it
[03:07] <berhow> so why does it take forever for the language packs to install
[03:15] <berhow> anyone?
[03:16] <likemindead> Servers bogged down.
[03:16] <likemindead> Skip it for now. Do it later.
[03:20] <berhow> will skipping muck anything up
[03:20] <berhow> how big is it anyway
[03:20] <_Techie_> nope, not unless you want anything other than english
[03:20] <berhow> is there a way to only install english
[03:20] <_Techie_> yeah, dont install them english is the default
[03:21] <berhow> i didn't think i told it to install them
[03:21] <_Techie_> it installs them automatically if theres a network connection present
[03:21] <berhow> ooh
[03:22] <berhow> anything elsse it install automatically with a network connection?
[03:22] <_Techie_> it will scan the apt mirrors
[03:23] <berhow> what's that mean, just like and apt-get update?
[03:23] <_Techie_> yeah
[03:25] <berhow> good to know
[03:25] <berhow> thanks
[04:44] <billet75> I tried 9.10 on a new machine, intel graphic on-board, I have to buy a card to get the install to work will there be a fix
[04:45] <billet75> there also is appears to be an issue with 9.10 during install hangs when looking at disk
[04:46] <billet75> :'(
[06:34] <Banjooie> Okay so I have dragged an ancient computer of mine out from the /depths of hell itself/ by which I mean my closet, and it is on Kubuntu, feisty
[06:35] <Banjooie> this is not particularly conducive to my getting it working as some sort of browsing/IM/telnetting side computer and people in #ubuntu are like 'go use xubuntu it will solve your problems'. Where do I read up on how to do this if my repos are all hilariously outdated
[06:35] <Hans_Henrik> lets say the Kubuntu fiesty got no desksktop environment, how can he install the Xfce desktop ?
[06:36] <Hans_Henrik> (basically apt-get remove gnome)
[06:36] <Hans_Henrik> wups.. wait, Kubuntu use KDE xD
[06:38] <_Pete_> Hans_Henrik: apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[06:38] <_Pete_> = xfce
[06:38] <_Pete_> Hans_Henrik: apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[06:38] <_Pete_> = gnome
[06:39] <Hans_Henrik> could som1 post a list of default repo's for Xubuntu?
[06:39] <_Pete_> Hans_Henrik: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[06:39] <_Pete_> = kde
[06:39] <_Pete_> Hans_Henrik: repos are same
[06:39] <Hans_Henrik> just diffrent folders?
[06:40] <_Pete_> you dont need to change repos
[06:40] <Hans_Henrik> ok
[06:40] <_Pete_> to try different desktops
[06:40] <_Pete_> also, all those can be installed same time
[06:41] <_Pete_> if so, in login screen you choose which one to use
[06:42] <Hans_Henrik> Banjooie: could try change from feisty main to Jaunty main (in your sources.list) then sudo -s;apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop;apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[06:42] <Banjooie> okay, let us attempt this trickery
[06:43] <_Pete_> that doesnt work
[06:43] <Hans_Henrik> _Pete_: how so?
[06:43] <_Pete_> those xxx-desktop packages are so called meta-packages
[06:43] <_Pete_> if you removeone
[06:44] <_Pete_> it doesnt actually remove all desktop things
[06:44] <_Pete_> if you want to remove gnome/kde
[06:44] <_Pete_> google for pure ubuntu
[06:44] <_Pete_> or pure kubuntu
[06:46] <Banjooie> okay, this assumes I have an extremely up-to-date ubuntu installation
[06:46] <Banjooie> i...is it possible to have this xubuntu thing /while/ I gradually update kubuntu
[06:47] <_Pete_> ?
[06:47] <Banjooie> Okay.
[06:47] <Banjooie> I have Feisty
[06:47] <Banjooie> The problem is A: My repos are all missing, so I can't installt hings
[06:48] <Banjooie> B: I have no idea what it is I'm supposed to do to get this feisty installation to something not end of life
[06:49] <_Pete_> do you mean your /etc/apt/sources.list is empty?
[06:49] <Hans_Henrik> Banjooie: no idea if it will help but try sudo update-manager -d
[06:49] <Banjooie> It's not empty, but the sources actually 404 on me
[06:50] <Banjooie> because feisty is ancient. I am going to try this 'just change it all to jaunty' thing and see if it helps
[06:50] <_Pete_> hmm just realised, feisty = 7.04?
[06:51] <_Pete_> If you want to update to that
[06:51] <_Pete_> I would go with clean new install
[06:51] <_Pete_> I guess there will be lot's of trouble if you never get it updated to 9.10
[06:52] <Banjooie> Right, I am trying to avoid things that involve burning Cds.
[06:52] <_Pete_> but if you still going to try that
[06:52] <_Pete_> good luck :)
[06:52] <_Pete_> and report here how it went
[06:54] <Banjooie> I am a man who managed to successfully run windows 98 without a single bsod for two years, i am all about the impossible and the terrible ideas
[06:55] <_Pete_> :)
[06:55] <_Pete_> that's the spirit
[06:55] <Hans_Henrik_> Banjooie: you gotta learn me how to do that some time
[06:56] <Banjooie> I have access to fel, terrible arts
[06:56] <Banjooie> in fact, by the end of the installation's lifetime
[06:56] <Banjooie> I had to start the computer, alt tab with no windows open, alt tab with one window open, alt-tab with two windows open, before doing anything else
[06:56] <Banjooie> running a program or alt-tabbing out of this order would cause a kernel32 error that would crash the computer (technically not a bsod!)
[06:56] <_Pete_> :D
[06:57] <Banjooie> The advantage: computer security ++
[06:57] <_Pete_> which reminds me always to brag about this, the current 9.04 running is most stable ubuntu for me
[06:58] <Banjooie> actually it's kinda funny, I ended up on ubuntu, like
[06:58] <Banjooie> because I wanted to get it off my hard drive, so I wanted to burn it onto CD but I didn't have a CD burning program
[06:58] <Banjooie> so I went to find a freeware winXP CD burning program but clicked on an ad that filled my comp with trojans
[06:58] <Hans_Henrik_> xD
[06:58] <Hans_Henrik_> bad day
[06:58] <Banjooie> burnt the CD, went into safe mode to try to get rid of it but the comp was so trojan'd I actually couldn't get into safe mode
[06:58] <Hans_Henrik_> btw how long ago was this?
[06:58] <Banjooie> oh, a few years back
[06:58] <_Pete_> lolz
[06:59] <Banjooie> now I just have one computer with Vista for gaming
[06:59] <Banjooie> do not say wine
[06:59] <Banjooie> fuck you do not say 'you can use wine'
[06:59] <Banjooie> I am never doing that again
[06:59] <_Pete_> I got one game working on that!
[06:59] <Hans_Henrik_> for aloooot of games, you can't run wine
[06:59] <Banjooie> So did I
[06:59] <Banjooie> Orgrimmar was /invisible/
[06:59] <Hans_Henrik_> xD
[06:59] <Banjooie> and one on linux for all my chatting and whatnot
[07:00] <_Pete_> Banjooie: you should change your taste of games
[07:00] <_Pete_> all old and good FPS are for linux
[07:00] <Banjooie> > Good FPS for Linux
[07:00] <Banjooie> > Team Fortress 2
[07:00] <_Pete_> no
[07:00] <_Pete_> but unreal tournament
[07:00] <_Pete_> the 10year old thing
[07:00] <Banjooie> > unreal tournament
[07:00] <Hans_Henrik_> _Pete_: almost every stupid anti-cheats fuck up wine  (GayGuard/Punkbuster/Game Shield/ to name some)
[07:00] <Banjooie> > good FPS
[07:01] <Banjooie> 6_90
[07:01] <_Pete_> Hans_Henrik_: might be, never tried
[07:01] <Banjooie> Anyway, I am very particular about my games
[07:01] <Banjooie> and while I found a few on Linux I didn't despise, these were mostly small freeware games
[07:01] <Banjooie> I really have no love whatsoever for old FPSes, I have /tried/
[07:02] <Animagladius> Night
[07:02] <Hans_Henrik_> y
[07:02] <_Pete_> openarena/ioquake/unreal tournament/urban terror
[07:02] <_Pete_> are my favourites
[07:02] <Hans_Henrik_> any1 tried Prototype btw?
[07:03] <_Pete_> other games I play with ps3
[07:03] <Banjooie> I have a deep abiding love for TF2
[07:03] <Banjooie> And my various MMO addictions
[07:03] <Banjooie> also I have found for some reason linux really hates flash videos?
[07:04] <_Pete_> it's like adobe hates to do opensource flash
[07:04] <_Pete_> which suxx
[07:05] <_Pete_> .. I have never undersood those MMO:s
[07:05] <_Pete_> long time ago used to play MUDs
[07:05] <Banjooie> It requires a certain sort of mindset
[07:05] <Banjooie> if you play them with some sort of overarching goal of completion
[07:05] <Banjooie> you are on a path to destruction
[07:05] <_Pete_> muds are still cool
[07:07] <Banjooie> I don't mind MUDs but they're macro city
[07:07] <Banjooie> and that irritates me
[07:07] <Banjooie> I don't mind graphical MMOs because macros are these things that make the game /easier/, not /livable/.
[07:07] <_Pete_> MUDs was something that drawn me to the internet
[07:07] <_Pete_> 20years ago or so
[07:08] <Hans_Henrik> name tibia sounds familiar?
[07:08] <_Pete_> no?
[07:08] <Hans_Henrik> ok
[07:09] <_Pete_> I used to play only abermuds
[07:09] <_Pete_> wizzed many on those
[07:10] <_Pete_> recently had been trying to get those oldies to run on modern linux
[07:10] <_Pete_> so far without luck
[07:12] <Banjooie> yeah
[07:12] <Banjooie> finding decent telnet clients on linux
[07:12] <Banjooie> oh boy is that a fun o--DON'T SAY TINYFUGUE
[07:13] <_Pete_> I have always been happy with normal telnet
[07:13] <Banjooie> I have to write paragraphs for my various telnet things
[07:14] <Banjooie> thus: I require slightly more
[07:14] <_Pete_> others used to mud is consired cheat
[07:14] <Banjooie> I am physically writing paragraphs of text, I refuse to use a single-line input
[07:15] <_Pete_> right
[08:00] <SingAlong_> whats the command to start the terminal? I want to add the shortcut to the terminal to the panel
[08:05] <psycho_oreos> xfce4-terminal
[08:06] <SingAlong_> psycho_oreos: thanks! it worked
[08:06] <psycho_oreos> nw
[08:07] <SingAlong_> anything you guys suggest i disable in xfce? I'm running an Acer netbook with 1gb ram and 160gb HDD.
[08:07] <_Pete_> SingAlong_: why should you disable anything?
[08:08] <SingAlong_> _Pete_: just to save some memory for apps that need extra push :)
[08:08] <_Pete_> kernel does that for you
[08:09] <SingAlong_> _Pete_: I've already deleted the bottom panel in xfce to save screen real estate and stuffed everything in the top panel.
[08:09] <_Pete_> you know, idle programs are get swapped
[08:09] <_Pete_> so if they do nothing
[08:10] <_Pete_> there's not much if they are running or not
[08:10] <SingAlong_> oh
[08:10] <SingAlong_> _Pete_: I saw this thing in dreamlinux sometime back... it used xfce too and the bottom panel was like mac.. with fish eye effect. how can i add that?
[08:11] <_Pete_> no idea
[08:11] <SingAlong_> _Pete_: you've seen the fish eye effect in mac bottom panel?
[08:12] <_Pete_> nope
[08:12] <rgnr> hey all
[08:12] <rgnr> wazzup
[08:13] <_Pete_> never really used mac
[08:13] <rgnr> who did the upgrade?
[08:13] <_Pete_> those who are offline? :)
[08:14] <rgnr> lol
[08:16] <daqing> hi all, I'm planning to upgrade my xubuntu 9.04 to 9.10, and I have downloaded the Desktop iso, and my question is could I upgrade my xubuntu directly from that iso file?
[08:17] <_Pete_> not without some heavy hacking
[08:17] <_Pete_> use update-manager instead
[08:18] <daqing> @_Pete_: upgrading from the Internet takes too long
[08:18] <_Pete_> well not too much longer than downloading that 910.iso ?
[08:19] <daqing> i use bt to download that iso, :(
[08:20] <daqing> but I must use HTTP to upgrade , that's not fast
[08:20] <_Pete_> http is nothing doing how fast is or not
[08:20] <_Pete_> but your networkconnection is
[08:21] <_Pete_> ..unless you have some wierd config
[08:23] <rgnr> anyways ppl, is 9.10 worth to upgrade to?
[08:23] <daqing> you're right, but i have to download 800M+ packages in order to upgrade it, and the connection must be alive.
[08:26] <daqing> @rgnr: maybe not, but i just want to try out. :)
[08:28] <daqing> well, thanks for your concern, maybe there's no better way to go.
[09:29] <slow-motion> hi
[09:30] <slow-motion> why is open-office in the standard installation included? we have abiword and gnumeric. I think open-office can stsy as an extra option
[09:49] <ochosi> hi everyone, i'm wondering why karmic behaves differently in terms of keyrings. i made a clean install, never entered a pwd and still i'm asked to enter a pwd for the keyring-manager on startup (deleting .gnome2/keyrings/login.keyring didn't help with that)
[09:50] <ochosi> what i'd like is to have *no* pwd for it (even thought that's unsafe, i know), i just don't want to enter a goddamn pwd everytime my laptop boots :)
[09:50] <knome> haha:)
[09:50] <ochosi> hey knome
[09:51] <knome> hoi ochosi
[09:59] <Banjooie> well
[09:59] <Banjooie> is it really that big a deal if noone else uses your laptop though
[10:00] <ochosi> no, it's not. but that's why i'd really like to reset the keyring
[10:26] <Xed> Hi
[10:27] <Xed> Can someone help me troubleshoot an internet issye please?
[10:27] <Xed> No program seems to be connecting, but ping is working.
[10:27] <Xed> I get a valid ip address too..
[10:45] <ext4_doubt> hi, i am running ubuntu 9.04 and have the following partitions : / (ext3)   /usr (ext3)   /var (ext3)  /home (ext3)   and swap. I plan to do to a FRESH installation of Karmic. my /home partition's size is 130 gig . Since i do not have the means to back up my home partition, shall i keep it as ext3 or will perhaps the ubuntu installer migrate it to ext4 WITHOUT losing any data???
[10:48] <jarnos> ext4_doubt: I'd suggest to keep it ext3. Do you have encrypted /home? Why do you have separate /usr and /var?
[10:49] <SingAlong> How do i change the list of options i get for desktop environments while logging in?
[10:51] <ext4_doubt> no do, i do not have /home encrypted but i plan to
[10:52] <SingAlong> anyone?
[10:52] <ace> how can i make vlc's interface set to Gtk?
[11:02] <jarnos> ext4_doubt: I don't know how easy it is to use old encrypted /home, if you do fresh install.
[11:03] <ext4_doubt> ok, thanks
[11:03] <Xed> Noob question, but where can I access the firewall settings? (xubuntu)
[11:03] <Xed> I'm unable to connect to any site
[11:03] <Xed> but ping works
[11:05] <ext4_doubt> on a FRESH install would there be a problem if i migrate /  /usr  /var  to ext4 but keep /home as ext3  ?
[11:05] <Carnophage> anyone managed to replace the new gdm in 9.10 with the old one?
[11:06] <Animagladius> Hi.
[11:14] <ext4_doubt> on a FRESH karmic install would there be a problem if i format  /    /usr    /var  as  ext4   but have  /home as ext3? has anyone here done that and did not suffer any performance problems or stability issues??
[11:22] <Xed> lol #ubuntu and #xubuntu are so different yet so similar
[11:23] <Xed> You ask something in #ubuntu and u dont get an answer cause its lost in a flood... while in here u dont get an answer cause noones active :D
[13:09] <St0n3-C0l> Yo
[13:26] <SingAlong> is there anyway to view unmounted partitions in thunar?
[14:32] <SingAlong> is there anyway to modify the settings of the notification area?
[14:33] <skysong> hello
[15:47] <ubuntu_gabe> hello
[15:47] <ubuntu_gabe> I have a hardware problem with xubuntu 9.10.
[15:48] <ubuntu_gabe> my mouse isn't working
[15:48] <ubuntu_gabe> it worked with ubuntu 8.04.3
[15:49] <ubuntu_gabe> how can I fix this problem?
[15:49] <ubuntu_gabe> anybody?
[15:50] <ubuntu_gabe> it's an Icon7 D100 USB mouse
[16:09] <caustic386> I know this isn't exactly the same, but anybody seen a problem where USB stops working after login?  PS/2 keyboard OK, but not PS/2 mouse, and USB kb/mouse are completely dead
[16:10] <caustic386> this is in mythbuntu, btw, so I'm thinking that there might just be a package missing?
[16:17] <Balsaq> anyone now how to uninstall alinux firewall i installed/
[16:28]  * jarnos switched back to 9.04
[17:50] <Tesssa> anyone help just upgraded form 9.04 to 9.10 puter restarted and it just keeps returning me to the log in window my login name and password are correct
[18:09] <gigawatt> hello
[18:10] <gigawatt> i have a critical problem, i just upgraded, and now it seems that nividia drivers crash on boot.
[18:10] <gigawatt> so i can only log in on that computer with a terminal interface
[18:11] <gigawatt> does anyone have any tips on how to get it working?
[18:13] <gigawatt> it boots with the old kernal
[18:24] <shine1> hi everyone, I am a newbie to linux and pidgin,  I installed xubuntu 9.10 yesterday on my old computer, but encounters a problem I couldn't solve by google: After I installed the system, when the screen with a little "mouse" shows up, the screen began to flash crazily. It then kept flashing on~~ If I switched to command line mode, everything is fine~  In the gui mode, it seems the whole screen was shifted to the right, so the l
[18:26] <durt> so the what?
[18:29] <shine1> hi durt, are you talking to me?  I don't understand your question....  i couldn't use the computer since the screen keeps flashing crazily...
[18:43] <shine1> Can anyone help me out here?  Thanks a million~
[18:46] <jcollierdavis> my sound doesn't work
[18:51] <durt> !sound | jcollierdavis
[19:48] <jarnos> I am using lirc in jaunty. It does not work well with power management: My remote control device name changes from /dev/ttyUSB0 to /dev/ttyUSB1 and lirc starts to take a lot of CPU on resume, if I don't stop lirc before entering to suspend. Is this a bug in lirc or what?
[20:01] <italomaia> Hi! Good afternoon
[20:02] <italomaia> i'm having a problem with mplayer+xubuntu karmic
[20:02] <italomaia> could anyone help me?
[20:06] <skysong> what problem?
[20:06] <italomaia> when i try to open any video file with mplayer, i get two error messages
[20:07] <skysong> which are?
[20:07] <italomaia> i'll copy them here, min
[20:07] <skysong> i installed xubuntu this morning and added mplayer. Been playing with that all the day and i didn't have any problem:/
[20:07] <italomaia> fatal error opening/initializing the selected video_out (-vo_ device
[20:08] <italomaia> and! AO: [pulse] Init failed : connection refused
[20:09] <skysong> edit you ~mplayer/gui.conf
[20:09] <skysong> vo_driver = "x11" should be like this
[20:10] <italomaia> ok, video error gone. Pulse error is still there
[20:11] <italomaia> i changed ao_driver to alsa and it works!
[20:11] <italomaia> thanks =D
[20:11] <italomaia> skysong, thanks!
[20:12] <skysong> good:)
[21:31] <heatherRm> hello i can't log into my main account since i've upgraded to karmic. i can log into an xterm but not xsession. can someone please help
[21:35] <jarnos> heatherRm: I had the same problem with some sessions, such as Xfce and LXDE sessions, but not with openbox session.
[21:35] <heatherRm> yeah i'm using xfce
[21:36] <jarnos> I did a clean install of Jaunty. Maybe later I do a clean install of Karmic and hope it works better then.
[21:38] <heatherRm> i upgraded from jaunty and this started happening
[21:39] <jarnos> me too. I is a shame upgrading does not work well for Xubuntu.
[21:47] <heatherRm> the reason i upgraded was cause i was having problems with jaunty :/
[21:48] <jarnos> What kind of?
[22:01] <defsum> Hello everybody, excuse my poor language skills and lack of knowledge
[22:02] <defsum> I have just installed Xubuntu amd64 9.10 on my PC
[22:02] <|Logitech|> xD
[22:02] <Sysi> !hi
[22:02] <|Logitech|> 9.10 is sucks
[22:02] <Sysi> karmic's good
[22:02] <|Logitech|> nope
[22:02] <|Logitech|> xD
[22:02] <defsum> After installation I got black screen with splashing tty and Login line
[22:02] <|Logitech|> i'm back to 9.04
[22:02] <Sysi> some problems still but i don't have any
[22:02] <defsum> problem is that I can type password (characters are typing just after 2-3 try)
[22:03] <defsum> splashing tty1**
[22:03] <defsum> I can't type password*
[22:03] <defsum> how to get normal login menu and log into system?
[22:04] <defsum> any solutions?)
[22:04] <|Logitech|> bump
[22:06] <defsum> ok, maybe you can give an advice there I should post my question on ubuntuforums? :-S
[22:06] <|Logitech|> maybe :)
[22:07] <jarnos> defsum: does login work, if you just type the password no matter what it displays?
[22:07] <defsum> no, because it's missing some of characters, even if I writing in user name
[22:07] <defsum> some of characters I should retype
[22:07] <defsum> to 'type' them
[22:08] <defsum> and console is blinking
[22:08] <jarnos> defsum: you don't have to type your user name in the gdm login of 9.10
[22:09] <|Logitech|> jarnos, yea
[22:09] <|Logitech|> just click on user and type pass
[22:10] <Enlik> troszka /part
[22:10] <defsum> ok, once again: I am starting PC, then appears mouse on black screen, and then appears blinking console black screen with: Ubuntu 9.10 computername tty1. username loing:
[22:10] <defsum> xservers is not running
[22:11] <defsum> xserver*, username login:**
[22:11] <jarnos> Are you sure you did not install command line system?
[22:12] <defsum> sure, just clicked Install Ubuntu Icon on Live desktop
[22:12] <defsum> next-next-next
[22:13] <defsum> it's Xubuntu 9.10 Amd64 desktop
[22:13] <defsum> iso-image
[22:13] <defsum> properly writted
[22:13] <|Logitech|> hmmm....
[22:13] <defsum> written
[22:14] <jarnos> defsum: there may be some errors in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[22:14] <defsum> are there some Safe Boot menu windows-like menu?
[22:14] <defsum> how to get there?))
[22:14] <defsum> I can't even boot system
[22:14] <|Logitech|> ins recoveri mode?
[22:14] <|Logitech|> recovery*
[22:15] <|Logitech|> xD
[22:15] <defsum> mm, what do you mean?
[22:15] <jarnos> yea. Press esc when grub loads in boot and choose recovery
[22:15] <defsum> ok, I'll try, wait a min
[22:16] <jarnos> or was it rescue
[22:16] <defsum> hm, I got:
[22:16] <defsum> mountall: Cancelled
[22:16] <heatherRm> jarnos: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1308462
[22:17] <heatherRm> sorry fell asleep
[22:17] <defsum> init: mountall main process (461) terminated with status 1
[22:17] <defsum> General error mounting filesystems.
[22:17] <defsum> A maintance shell will now be started.
[22:17] <defsum> and same blinking >> usarname login:
[22:18] <defsum> username
[22:18] <|Logitech|> can you log in?
[22:19] <defsum> no, I even can't normally type username
[22:19] <|Logitech|> :(
[22:19] <|Logitech|> xD
[22:19] <defsum> just clicking first character for the 5 times)
[22:19] <defsum> some times 1-2-3- times)) it's ok with username, but password is hidden, can't controll it))
[22:20] <|Logitech|> lol
[22:20] <defsum> yep
[22:20] <defsum> ctrl+alt+del even working from the 5th try))
[22:21] <jarnos> defsum: are you sure your keyboard is fine?
[22:22] <defsum> also: it starting blinking between root@user:~# * Starting init crypto disks...    and   Ubuntu 9.10 user tty1
[22:22] <defsum> absolutely
[22:23] <jarnos> defsum: maybe hard disk is broken; mounting did not go well..
[22:23] <defsum> I am emarrased by info message if I hit ESC while loading (mouse appears): General error mounting filesystems.
[22:24] <heatherRm> wow it looks like ubuntu has turned into too big of a distro to worry about the little guys
[22:24] <defsum> hmm, I have 190GB NTFS partition on this harddrive and it was working fine even hour ago
[22:24] <heatherRm> if when i get back i don't have an answer on the forum, i'll just have to find another distro
[22:24] <heatherRm> a shame cause this is my fav
[22:25] <defsum> ..but under WinXP :)
[22:26] <jarnos> defsum: what file systems you used for installing xubuntu?
[22:26] <defsum> automatic setting (use largest free space)
[22:27] <|Logitech|> 9.10 version have ext4 file system
[22:27] <defsum> ext 3 or 4, I dunno
[22:27] <defsum> is it possible to try Recover system from Ubuntu cd?
[22:28] <defsum> or just reinstall it?
[22:28] <defsum> seems there're no better way?
[22:28] <|Logitech|> defsum, install 9.04 :)
[22:29] <|Logitech|> karmic is bad
[22:29] <Sysi> why?
[22:29] <Sysi> working great
[22:29] <|Logitech|> lol
[22:29] <defsum> I'd better switch on FreeBSD) Long time ago was planning to start learning unix from BSD)
[22:29] <jarnos> defsum:  you could try running a hard disk diagnostic utility such as seatools
[22:29] <Sysi> only problem is sound muted after boot
[22:29] <defsum> but embarassed by the lack of wifi-drivers
[22:30] <defsum> are they on distr. cd?
[22:32] <defsum> seems that not, ok, thanks to everyone for help, I'll try to reinstall it, and if it won't work I'll switch back XP :-(
[22:33] <|Logitech|> lol
[22:33] <|Logitech|> defsum, install 9.04 :)
[22:33] <|Logitech|> works great
[22:33] <Sysi> that isn't answer
[22:33] <Sysi> karmic works great for me
[22:33] <Sysi> in two computers
[22:33] <|Logitech|> xD
[22:34] <defsum> I was using 904 for two weeks, there weren't any problem, yes. I'll think about it)
[22:34] <Sysi> there is support left for it pretty long
[22:35] <Sysi> therely not problem
[22:36] <|Logitech|> after install 9.04 i'm have problem with sound and resolution...fixed :)
[22:37] <Sysi> i haven't had any problems with 8.04, 9.04 or 9.10, i didn't install 8.10
[22:37] <|Logitech|> i'm not have problems with 8.10 (realy good version)
[22:38] <Sysi> but there wasn't so much changes for lts
[22:38] <Sysi> but now it's outdated
[22:38] <|Logitech|> yea
[22:39] <|Logitech|> Sysi, you have sound problem in 9.10?
[22:39] <|Logitech|> or not?
[22:39] <Sysi> well, it's muted after boot
[22:39] <|Logitech|> :)
[22:39] <Sysi> but i don't boot almost never
[22:39] <|Logitech|> i have solution
[22:39] <|Logitech|> :)
[22:39] <Sysi> it isn't real problem
[22:40] <Sysi> and jaunty is too slow for netbook
[22:41] <Sysi> and as said, when i reboot only when there is new kernel..
[22:41] <|Logitech|> Sysi, in terminal type sudo mousepad /etc/init.d/alsa-utils and comment out line 372 mute_and_zero_levels “$TARGET_CARD” || EXITSTATUS=1
[22:41] <|Logitech|> and reboot
[22:41] <|Logitech|> sound not muted
[22:41] <|Logitech|> :)
[22:41] <Sysi> sound need to be muted at school :)
[22:41] <|Logitech|> lol
[22:42] <Sysi> and i don't want reboot
[22:42] <Sysi> hibernate FTW
[22:42] <|Logitech|> ok
[22:42] <|Logitech|> xD
[22:43] <Sysi> well, xdmcp has been made harder, but old computer is so fast with karmic that i don't need it :D
[22:43] <Sysi> and popups are in very irritating place
[22:44] <|Logitech|> lolz
[23:14] <mnemoc> hi, the update (9.04 -> 9.10) manager locks for ever (killed /tmp/.../karmic after 5h) when calculating changes right after showing me the list of packages no longer supported. anything I can do to see what's going on or to finish the installation? running do-release-upgrade again runs into the same problem
[23:15] <mnemoc> i'm downloading the ISO, but i doubt "calculating changes" is network related