[00:00] <rafytafy> kaddi: i have about 95 % kubuntu .deb packages with exception of Nexuiz which i used getdeb.com since they boot older versions
[00:00] <callnett> tsimpson: Great
[00:00] <callnett> tsimpson: do u know how can i do that?
[00:01] <nicklas_> this is too bad, really want to use kubuntu, but i want sound in flash
[00:01] <yofel> callnett: open synaptic and install 'kubuntu-desktop' like tsimpson said
[00:02] <kaddi> rafytafy: only one which concerned the kernel and has since been fixed. I've been using karmic since alpha5, so I expected it to break really when I upgraded. Be sure to use the update-manager though cause I believe the syntax of the server names change somewhere in between. You get detailed upgrade instruction on the ubuntu-wiki
[00:02] <nfrs> hi. I'm trying to completely remove pulseaudio from my system. uninstalled all packages that had "pulse" in them, but mplayer and other apps still attempt to use it for some reason, and it doesn't go away from the sound devices list. can anyone advise?
[00:02] <nfrs> (karmic)
[00:02] <zy> how do i use nepomuk/strigi? as in i know they are indexing my files, but how do i search them?
[00:03] <yofel> nfrs: did you purge the packages? maybe the left-behind config files confuse them
[00:03] <tsimpson> the ubuntu devs decided it was a good thing to patch all those apps to try pulseaudio first, some apps (like mplayer) can be set not to
[00:03] <tsimpson> eg: mplayer -ao alsa ...
[00:03] <nfrs> yofel: good idea. now I only need to find out which packages were there
[00:03] <tsimpson> or put  "ao=alsa" in ~/.mplayer/config
[00:04] <nfrs> tsimpson: what about alarm clock? it doesn't have such option
[00:04] <rafytafy> kaddi: would you suggest i d/l and burn a kubuntu iso ( i have fast cable, not an issue ) and keep it as a (if something happens) disc?
[00:04] <nfrs> will try
[00:04] <tsimpson> nfrs: is it a gnome/gtk app?
[00:04] <nfrs> tsimpson: kalarm
[00:04] <kaddi> rafytafy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes I followed those instructions
[00:04] <tsimpson> nfrs: make sure the system is set to prefer the sound device in system settings
[00:04] <rafytafy> yeah i saw those, just wanted to see if anyone was successful in here
[00:04] <yofel> nfrs: id *should* use whatever is set in system-settings->multimedia then
[00:04] <nfrs> tsimpson: it is
[00:05] <nfrs> yofel: well, it doesn't
[00:05] <callnett> yofel: thank is very simple but how can i do it?
[00:05] <yofel> nfrs: what is your issue with pulseaudio if I may ask? It works fine here
[00:05] <callnett> yofel: synaptic?
[00:05] <tsimpson> make sure it's set in all the categories
[00:06] <nfrs> yofel: no sound
[00:06] <nicklas_> i guess i simply have to accept that if i want to use kubunt, i will have to do without sound in flash at the moment
[00:06] <nfrs> tsimpson: it is set in all categories
[00:06] <yofel> callnett: I'm not sure how the gnome menu looks like exactly, but it should be system->administration->synaptic package manager
[00:07] <yofel> nfrs: I had no sound too after pulse updates since it always muted the main output device, I had to unmute it using pavucontrol
[00:07] <kaddi> rafytafy: you might want to yes, I've had issues with networkmanager.. I've been using wicd for a time and with every upgrade wicd was removed and networkmanager put back in place.So I had to revert that change to get back online and do the follow up updates. If you need additional packages or a working internet connection, a live-cd can be useful. Just make sure it works before you start. ;) (I assumed mine would work, but it was faulty. I only found
[00:07] <kaddi> out two days ago, when I was trying to use it for some other reason though. :p )
[00:07] <nfrs> tsimpson: setting "ao=alsa" worked for mplayer, but not for the alarm clock
[00:08] <tsimpson> use "dpkg -l|grep pulse" to see if any packages have "rc" at the start of the line
[00:08] <rafytafy> kaddi: funny you mention WICD, i have been using it on 8.04 for a few months now, I believe it is superior to n-m-kde
[00:08] <tsimpson> that means that the config files are still there
[00:08] <callnett> yofel: no synaptic menu in administration
[00:08] <nfrs> yofel: I don't trust pulseaudio since 9.04, and I don't need it. want my alsa back!
[00:08] <tsimpson> nfrs: then you can do "sudo dpkg --purge <list of packages>" to remove the config
[00:09] <nfrs> tsimpson: do you know specific packages to purge?
[00:09] <marcosRz> I wonder if kubuntu netbook edition works kool on 10.1" WSGA screen, or should I go for a 'normal' kde?
[00:09] <nicklas_> LOL, fixed, i just needed to raise the PCM volume
[00:09] <tsimpson> nfrs: no, I don't have any installed
[00:09] <yofel> callnett: okay... seems that changed recently... give me a moment
[00:09] <callnett> yofel: sorry sorry i got it
[00:09] <kaddi> rafytafy: well just be aware that it will be removed with every upgrade, so you best just get yourself a deb right away from the packages.ubuntu.com website if you want to install it again. Supposedly nm improved a lot in karmic, but I haven't tried it, I'm happy with wicd :)
[00:10] <yofel> callnett: ok :)
[00:10] <nfrs> tsimpson: dpkg: warning: ignoring request to remove gstreamer0.10-pulseaudio which isn't installed.
[00:11] <rafytafy> kaddi: darn, that does not sound positive :( My biggest reason for wanting to ^ from 8.04 to 9.10 was to see if my mobo has lm-sensors ..i may just install it under live session and see if it picks up
[00:11] <yofel> callnett: search for the kubuntu-desktop package and install it, it will then tell you that it has to install many other packages, that's ok
[00:12] <kaddi> rafytafy: have you tried to upgrade lm-sensors.. the latest release should be available from their website, no?
[00:12] <marcosRz> anyone?
[00:12] <marcosRz> kubuntu netbook or normal for a 10.1" netbook?
[00:12] <rafytafy> kaddi: i compiled new version last week...let me check if there is a newer one..good idea
[00:13] <tsimpson> nfrs: it'll only work for the "rc" packages
[00:13] <yofel> marcosRz: maybe the folks in #kubuntu-netbook know more, I use normal on my EeePC 1000H
[00:13] <nfrs> tsimpson: "rc"?
[00:13] <rafytafy> yeah i have 3.1.1 version, newest one :(
[00:14] <kaddi> you might still wanna try the live-cd, one never knows (and I certainly don't since I have no clue about hardware :p)
[00:14] <tsimpson> nfrs: the "rc" mean it's removed but configuration files still remain, lines from "dpkg -l|grep pulse" will start with "rc" in that case
[00:14] <marcosRz> thanks yofel
[00:14] <kaddi> rafytafy: and who knows you might actually like kde 4.3 and decide to upgrade ;)
[00:16] <flying-sheep> hi
[00:16] <kaddi> hi
[00:17] <flying-sheep> i have this problem again: chnging the shortcut setting for "focus searchbar" is not remembered by konqueror.
[00:17] <nfrs> tsimpson: purged everything, it *still* won't let me remove the output device from the multimedia configuratino
[00:17] <SJr> Hmmmm since reinstalling Karmic my SWT applications like Vuze and Eclipse suck, and have this big blocky look to them, I've installed everything related to swt that I could think of but nothing is changing, any ideas? http://sjrx.net/pics/crap.png
[00:17] <flying-sheep> if i close konqueror and reopen, it is reset
[00:17] <nfrs> and the alarm clock still has no sound
[00:19] <trampel> nfrs:  my humble observation is that pulseaudio either works (perfectly) for some; or not at all for others.  like me.  ...i *finally* gave up and went back to alsa.
[00:19] <nfrs> trampel: that's what I'm trying to do. unsuccessfully
[00:20] <nfrs> trampel: removed all packages (except libpulse0, which is hardwired), and still no luck
[00:20] <trampel> remove all pulseaudio packages (except maybe libpulseaudio...), then install something like libsdl1.2debian-alsa and reboot ...good luck!
[00:21] <nfrs> trampel: already tried that :(
[00:22] <trampel> nfrs: you purged the pulseaudio packages too?  (to try to kill all the various configs)
[00:22] <nfrs> trampel: yes
[00:22] <kaddi> I'm having trouble with skype, I don't have any sound. And by this I mean I don't hear the ring from the incoming call nor do I hear the person talking at the other end, nor does she hear me.Obviously this is a problem with sound settings, but what do I have to fix?
[00:22] <kaddi> and no sound isn't muted
[00:23] <trampel> nfrs:  alsamixer and upped the pcm or whatever channel?
[00:23] <flying-sheep> can somebody help me? i only find open bugs without workarounds!
[00:23] <rafytafy> anyone in here using the MSI 790fx -gd70 mobo?
[00:23] <nfrs> trampel: the sound is on. it works in some apps, and doesn't in others
[00:24] <nfrs> trampel: mplayer attempts to use pulse by default
[00:24] <trampel> nfrs:  ah... what "others"?  (amarok, maybe?)
[00:24] <nfrs> trampel: kalarm
[00:24] <nfrs> trampel: it used to work fine before upgrade to 9.10
[00:25] <trampel> nfrs:  "mplayer -ao alsa"  or "mplayer -ao oss" ?
[00:25] <nfrs> trampel: mplayer -ao alsa works
[00:25] <nfrs> trampel: but kalarm doesn't have such option
[00:25] <CPrgmSwR2> sound needs to improve on linux yet
[00:25] <trampel> nfrs:  kalarm maybe beyond help... might be hardwared to pulse now
[00:25] <trampel> nfrs:  "pulse is the future, and that's that."  ...is what i was told.
[00:26] <nfrs> trampel: that would be stupid. there is the multimedia device configuration, so it should be flexible
[00:27] <trampel> nfrs:  i quite agree...
[00:28] <nfrs> ok, I'll reboot now
[00:28] <nfrs> bb, if it doesn't work
[00:28] <nfrs> thanks all for help
[00:31] <Vlado9A3CY> hi everyone... just installed kubuntu 9.10, where can I edit grub? There is no /boot/grub/menu.lst
[00:32] <yofel> !grub2 | Vlado9A3CY
[00:32] <yofel> Vlado9A3CY: please see the wiki page on how to configure grub2
[00:32] <Vlado9A3CY> thanks a lot ;)
[00:33] <FewClues> Has anyone else had a problem with their touchpad being enabled by programs?
[00:34] <trampel> Vlado9A3CY: in a nutshell, there are several files in /etc/grub.d that are edited & then be sure to do an update-grub  ...but there have been a lot of changes, worthy of study
[00:35] <srynznfyra> hi
[00:36] <Vlado9A3CY> trampel: thank you, I'm working on it :)
[00:36] <FewClues> Are there rules for posting on #kubuntu?
[00:36] <tsimpson> !guidelines
[00:36] <tsimpson> see the /topic too
[00:36] <FewClues> Thank yuo\
[00:36] <trampel> (... grub2 seems to have tended to some of the *old* lilo behavior ...seems to me ...hmh )
[00:38] <SJr> Hmmmm since reinstalling Karmic my SWT applications like Vuze and Eclipse suck, and have this big blocky look to them, I've installed everything related to swt that I could think of but nothing is changing, any ideas? http://sjrx.net/pics/crap.pn
[00:41] <yofel> SJr: did you have gnome installed before? iirc swt uses gtk on linux (I'm not sure though)
[00:41] <SJr> Yeah I did, yofel but I don't want to install all of gnome before, I tried installing some gtk libs, but I'm not sure which to install
[00:42] <yofel> not sure either (I have full gnome installed as a secondary env).
[00:43] <yofel> maybe you need to install kcm-gtk to set the gtk style?
[00:44] <yofel> SJr: you can set it in system-settings->appearance then
[00:44] <D-coy> o/
[01:07] <Jevon> I have a question for the community of KDE users:
[01:07] <Jevon> AM I the only person that dislikes KDE 4?
[01:08] <marcosRz> Jevon: ?
[01:08] <Jevon> just wondering
[01:08] <marcosRz> Peopple are different, it's normal to have different tastes.
[01:08] <ubuntu> ...
[01:08] <marcosRz> :)
[01:09] <ubuntu> I like kde4
[01:09] <marcosRz> Some peopple like tiling wm, some gnome, some xfce, some kde..
[01:09] <marcosRz> it's normal ;)
[01:09] <Jevon> Wish there were a way to switch back to 3.5 without restarting
[01:09] <ubuntu> but i'm still testing it to see if it is good
[01:10] <Jevon> well, maybe you guys can help me to set it up similar to the old notalgic feeling I am missing then
[01:11] <marcosRz> well
[01:11] <marcosRz> KDE4 have all the things kde3 had...
[01:12] <Jevon> well, I just now figured out how to show icons on the 'desktop' so one down
[01:13] <marcosRz> thats easy ;)
[01:13] <marcosRz> I hate that default behavior
[01:13] <marcosRz> too
[01:15] <Jevon> I also need to rework my wireless card it seems
[01:17] <Shaxor> Hello, I want to set my time zone to my state (I live in the U.S) Is there a way to set it to the state of alabama? Or can it only be the states and time zones on the list?
[01:19] <Jevon> pretty much stuck with the defaults
[01:20] <Shaxor> Ahhh crap, is there away to go by my area code? lol
[01:21] <Jevon> doubt it
[01:24] <MaartenLx> Shaxor: It doesn't matter, still the same time. The reason there are some "special" selections such as Arizona is because they have no DST. Other then that.... pick the closest to your time zone and call it a day. I always pick Los Angeles, PST.
[01:26] <billytwowilly> Hi, what's the normal file permissions set for a user in kubuntu in octal?
[01:27] <tsimpson> for a regular file 0644
[01:30] <Jevon> how do you move applets around in the panel on the bottom
[01:31] <tsimpson> click the cashew in the bottom right
[01:32] <chuyzoz> hello...
[01:32] <chuyzoz> just a quick question, I just got karmic koala...
[01:32] <chuyzoz> how do i enable desktop switching by scrolling with the mouse wheel whilst on the background ?
[01:33] <billytwowilly> 644?
[01:33] <chuyzoz> it on by default in the previous version, but i can't seem to find where to  toggle it ?
[01:35] <chuyzoz> what  ?
[01:37] <Jevon> now what in the world is this Akanodi
[01:37] <Hydrant> what's the default kernel supposed to be for 9.10 ?
[01:39] <yofel> Hydrant: 2.6.31-XX-generic, 2.6.31-14-generic right now
[01:39] <Hydrant> hrrm... I did an upgrade and my kernel was held back to 2.6.28-11-generic
[01:40] <Hydrant> it should be safe to just upgrade it via apt-get I would imagine?
[01:41] <yofel> Hydrant: if the upgrade went fine otherwise certainly
[01:41] <yofel> maybe it's installed and grub just failed to update the kernel list?
[01:42] <Hydrant> yah, maybe... grub doesn't come up at boot
[01:43] <Hydrant> linux-image-2.6.31-14-generic is installed
[01:43] <Hydrant> I guess grub wasn't updated then
[01:43] <yofel> Hydrant: do you have a /boot/grub/grub.cfg? and is it listed in there?
[01:43] <yofel> maybe something went wrong on the grub->grub2 upgrade
[01:43] <Hydrant> hrrm...  I don't see a grub.conf there
[01:43] <Hydrant> grub.cfg
[01:44] <JBadger> Question
[01:44] <yofel> Hydrant: do you have grub or grub-pc installed?
[01:44] <Hydrant> grub is version 0.97-29ubuntu59
[01:45] <Hydrant> and grub-common is 1.97~beta4-1ubuntu3
[01:45] <Hydrant> just grub... dpkg -l | grep grub shows grub and grub-common
[01:45] <yofel> hm... is the new kernel in your menu.lst?
[01:45] <JBadger> when Hydrant is done
[01:45] <Hydrant> nope
[01:46] <yofel> JBadger: you can ask it anyway, maybe someone else knows the answer to your question too ;)
[01:46] <yofel> Hydrant: ok, what does 'sudo update-grub' do?
[01:46] <Hydrant> I didn't realize grub was updated at the same time
[01:47] <JBadger> okay
[01:48] <Hydrant> oddly it finds a bunch of kernek versions, and says its generating a new menu.lst, but it hasn't put the new kernel inside it
[01:48] <JBadger> I am doing an upgrade to 9.10 and my dsl did a burp.  Then when I reached to reset the dsl modem I seem to have pulled the power cord on the computer, so the question is what is the best way to resume.  For now I did sudo apt-get --download-only dist-upgrade
[01:48] <yofel> Hydrant: so the menu.lst is still the same?
[01:48] <Hydrant> yah, still 9.04 entries
[01:49] <yofel> o.O
[01:49] <Hydrant> and don't see the new kernel
[01:51] <Hydrant> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub/+bug/202009
[01:53] <Hydrant> trying to update to grub2 to see if this fixes things
[01:53] <yofel> Hydrant: you might find something useful on the grub2 wiki page then
[01:53] <yofel> I can't think of anything right now
[01:53] <yofel> !grub2
[01:54] <yofel> you could ask in #grub though, maybe they can help you
[01:54] <Hydrant> yah, most likely this is an ubuntu-related issue
[01:55] <Hydrant> for instance, if grub2 is default why wasn't grub upgraded?
[01:57] <Hydrant> okay, gonna reboot and see if my manual upgrade of grub worked
[01:57] <Jevon> next question: How do I access my Vista partition. There used to be a nice little button on the menu that let me see the system:
[01:57] <JBadger> good luck Hydrant
[01:58] <yofel> Jevon: dolphin shows my ntfs partitions in the sidebar here
[01:59] <Jevon> I kave konqueror
[02:00] <Jevon> figured it out
[02:04] <Hydrant> okay, manually upgrading worked
[02:04] <Hydrant> I wonder how much else silently screwed up.... is there an install sanity check or something that will ensure the upgrade is smooth ?
[02:11] <Hydrant> did anyone else's fonts suck after upgrading?  I trashed .kde and set things up fresh, but my fonts look pretty crappy... very tiny and I think antialiasing isn't working
[02:11] <JBadger> Hydrant: I am going though an upgrade now
[02:12] <Hydrant> I'm doing a fresh install on my laptop
[02:17] <JBadger> yofel: do you think I should ask my question again?
[02:20] <yofel> JBadger: sry, forgot about you while talking to Hydrant...
[02:20] <JBadger> that's okay
[02:21] <yofel> check if the repositories in your /etc/apt/sources.list are set to karmic
[02:21] <yofel> if they are, either run apt-get dist-upgrade, or I would prefer aptitude full-upgrade
[02:21] <yofel> and 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' if neccessary
[02:22] <JBadger> yes they are
[02:22] <JBadger> synaptic okay after that
[02:23] <yofel> JBadger: so the upgrade was killed while still downloading the packages?
[02:23] <JBadger> well I'll wait for the download to get down
[02:23] <JBadger> yes
[02:23] <JBadger> s/down/done/
[02:23] <Hydrant> turned on antialiasing and things are good... but still, things seem a lot smaller than I remember :-S
[02:24] <yofel> then running aptitude  full-upgrade should be fine after that, even update-manager should be fine, but since I always use the command line I can't really tell
[02:25] <yofel> Hydrant: are the dpi settings right? font size right?
[02:25] <Hydrant> fonts are all 8pt or 9pt
[02:26] <JBadger> well as said I am running apt-get --download-only dist-upgrade for now, when that is done I think I will either run apt-get, upgrade manager or synaptic, thanks yofel
[02:28] <yofel> JBadger: one more thing: if you really try update-manager, don't use it if it proposes to do a 'partial upgrade'. That has a tendency to go horribly wrong.
[02:29] <yofel> and for upgrades you should make sure to have the kubuntu-desktop package installed
[02:30] <JBadger> okay noted on a post-it
[02:34] <Hydrant> I like the new automatic crash report thingee
[02:35] <Hydrant> my system just exploded with an 80mb core dump which is now being uploaded
[02:35] <Hydrant> hopefully people actually look at the generated reports
[02:42] <yofel> well, I'm off to bed. good luck folks ;)
[02:42] <JBadger> well, goodnight, bed sounds like a good idea
[02:57] <GinoMan_> what do you do if apt is locked but no program is running that uses it?
[02:58] <robinp_> GinoMan_: reboot ?
[02:59] <GinoMan_> is that the only thing?
[03:02] <release> GinoMan_: i think there is a lockfile somewhere - in /var or something
[03:02] <trampel> GinoMan_: "apt"..what?  is there a standard executable named "apt" and how do you know it's "locked"?
[03:04] <GinoMan_> ..... trampel: the advanced package management system thinks that it's not the only instance of itself running and thus refuses to run even though it is in fact the only instance of itself running
[03:05] <trampel> GinoMan_: what does "ps -ef | grep apt" look like?  anything marked <defunct> or such-like?
[03:06] <GinoMan_> root      7122  4237  0 Oct30 ?        00:00:05 /usr/lib/apt/methods/http
[03:06] <GinoMan_> nothing marked defunct
[03:06] <robinp> how do i mark a bug against the kubuntu installer ?
[03:08] <trampel> GinoMan_: seems likely that something like an apt-get update has become wedged while accessing the net, perhaps?
[03:09] <GinoMan_> so how do I "unwedge" it
[03:10] <trampel> GinoMan_: you could always try rebooting...
[03:15] <GinoMan_> sudo kill -9 <psid of apt process>
[03:15] <GinoMan_> that would also work
[03:16] <asobi> why can't i compress files into rar archive?
[03:16] <GinoMan_> because you fail (j/k)
[03:16] <GinoMan_> no... what command are you using
[03:18] <asobi> um using ark via gui
[03:18] <asobi> created new rar file
[03:18] <asobi> tried using add
[03:19] <asobi> how would i do it via command?
[03:19] <tsimpson> make sure you have rar installed
[03:19] <_nix_> Hello everybody, I've just installed 9.10 and it seems I'm unable to switch to the text consoles that are available on pressing ctrl-alt-f(1-6).  Is it just me or we really dropped that functionality?
[03:19] <asobi> i can unrar...
[03:19] <seige36> does anyone know how to setup lm sensors with sensors-detect?
[03:21] <BiosElement> _nix_: It works for me. If it's not working for you it's probably a bug with your system.
[03:21] <tsimpson> asobi: "rar" is for creating rar files, "unrar" extracts them
[03:21] <asobi> i am trying to create one
[03:21] <asobi> i have a folder of pictures
[03:22] <asobi> like to make a rar file out of it
[03:22] <pepee> hi
[03:23] <pepee> I need this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1230330 (post 1 and 7 to 9)
[03:23] <asobi> what's the command? rar file1,file2, file3, etc?
[03:23] <pepee> sudo adduser yourusername disk  <- doesn't work for me
[03:23] <asobi> wait
[03:23] <asobi> it unrar installed separately from rar?
[03:24] <asobi> i can unrar, i assumed i can rar as well...
[03:24] <Hydrant> okay... new problem... no sound in firefox after the upgrade to karmic... wtf?
[03:24] <_nix_> BiosElement: hmm, /etc/inittab is missing on my system. I assume the file is present on your system? thanks for your response
[03:25] <pepee> asobi, use tar czvf NewFile.tar.gz files
[03:25] <pepee> Hydrant, do you mean "flash"?
[03:25] <asobi> how do i list the files?
[03:25] <Hydrant> indeed
[03:25] <pepee> Hydrant, try reinstalling it
[03:26] <asobi> and is there an easier way? i have 100+ files...not going to type them all...
[03:26] <dmartinezc> ok
[03:26] <pepee> asobi, for example: tar czvf NewFile.tgz *.txt
[03:26] <tsimpson> asobi: why do you need to rar
[03:26] <tsimpson> ?
[03:26] <asobi> backup
[03:26] <pepee> will compress all .txt files
[03:26] <asobi> hmm
[03:26] <tsimpson> there are other formats, like tar.gz or zip
[03:26] <tsimpson> easier to use
[03:27] <pepee> I don't know how to use rar to compress
[03:27] <dmartinezc> Hydrant: check the PCM option in the sound options
[03:27] <asobi> but how can i differentiate pictures
[03:27] <asobi> ok
[03:27] <asobi> how do i use zip
[03:27] <tsimpson> ark support tar.gz
[03:27] <pepee> but you can install winrar in winr
[03:27] <pepee> *wine
[03:27] <_nix_> I never had any spare money to pay for rar :(
[03:28] <tsimpson> winrar supports tar.gz in windows, so you may as well go for the easy way
[03:28] <pepee> rar is freeware
[03:28] <_nix_> Oh? It wasn't sometime ago.
[03:28] <pepee> I need this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1230330 (post 1 and 7 to 9)
[03:29] <Hydrant> reinstalling flash did nothing
[03:29] <pepee> and btw there's a command "rar" in linux but it's difficult to learn
[03:29] <tsimpson> apt says it's shareware, not freeware
[03:29] <asobi> hydrant, you have to link it
[03:29] <asobi> google it
[03:29] <tsimpson> winrar is shareware, but you don't _have_ to register it
[03:29] <pepee> well, I'm too lazy to learn to use it
[03:29] <tsimpson> it just bugs you every time it starts
[03:29] <Hydrant> asobi: link what
[03:29] <asobi> i am not sure
[03:29] <asobi> google it
[03:30] <asobi> i had the same problem before
[03:30] <asobi> so rar and unrar are totally different
[03:30] <asobi> >.<
[03:31] <asobi> will read on it
[03:31] <pepee> asobi, man rar  and   man unrar
[03:31] <Hydrant> dmartinezc: the PCM sound option in firefox?  Or do you mean ensuring it's not muted in kmix ?
[03:31] <pepee> for extracting: unrar x file.rar
[03:32] <asobi> oh
[03:32] <asobi> rar not installed
[03:32] <dmartinezc> in the mixer
[03:32] <asobi> >.<
[03:32] <asobi> but unrar is
[03:32] <FloodBotK2> asobi: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:33] <Hydrant> okay, got it working
[03:34] <pepee> :(
[03:34] <pepee> help!
[03:35] <_nix_> pepee: adding yourself to the "disk" group isn't working?
[03:35] <pepee> nope
[03:35] <pepee> it still keep changing the permissions
[03:36] <_nix_> pepee: I assume the device permissions are 660 with "root" and "disk" assigned as the owner and group when you begin?
[03:36] <pepee> brw-rw---- 1 root disk 8, 1 2009-10-31 21:09 /dev/sda1
[03:37] <tsimpson> once you change you groups you _need_ to logout and in again for it to take effect
[03:37] <_nix_> pepee: understand that the device nodes under /dev/ are created dynamically and changing permissions on them won't have the expected persistance.
[03:37] <_nix_> pepee: ahh yes, you do need to relogin for the group change to take into effect.
[03:37] <pepee> tsimpson, already did that
[03:38] <pepee> logout from kde? restart the machine?
[03:39] <tsimpson> you should not need to reboot, just make sure you totally logout
[03:39] <_nix_> pepee: hmm, so when you type the command "id" on the terminal it lists the "disk" group for you as well?
[03:39] <pepee> i restarted it, but still not changes
[03:39] <pepee> _nix_, yes
[03:39] <pepee> 6(disk)
[03:40] <_nix_> pepee: that should allow you read/write access to the device mentioned
[03:41] <miguel> HOLA
[03:42] <Guest91454> HI
[03:42] <_nix_> pepee: though i personally wouldn't prefer to have a user process with raw r/w access on a block device
[03:42] <pepee> well, the problem is that if I change the permissions, something reverses them
[03:42] <pepee> Guest19106, #ubuntu-es compañero ;)
[03:42] <tsimpson> pepee: you've been told that everything in /dev is generated at boot
[03:42] <Guest91454> HAY ALGUIEN K HABLE ESPAÑOL
[03:42] <Guest91454> ?
[03:42] <tsimpson> so you turn off your computer and the files are gone, so no permissions
[03:43] <tsimpson> !es | Guest91454
[03:43] <Guest91454> GRACIAS
[03:43] <_nix_> pepee: you shouldn't need to change the permissions once you're in the "disk" group. try running virtualbox(?) to see if it works. Please make note that having raw r/w access as a user is not considered safe.
[03:44] <tsimpson> well, it is needed on CD/DVD devices
[03:44] <pepee> tsimpson, yes, but I mean it changes shortly after trying to boot the vm
[03:45] <_nix_> tsimpson: there's a different group called "cdrom" for that :)
[03:45] <tsimpson> _nix_: ok, but what if a user wants to format a USB stick ;)
[03:45] <tsimpson> actually, there is plugdev, never mind :p
[03:46] <_nix_> tsimpson: heh
[03:46] <tsimpson> being in "disk" saves me typing kdesudo/sudo, so maybe I'm just lazy
[03:46] <pepee> _nix_, I know it's risky, but I don't other way to get vbox working
[03:46] <pepee> and know it says "error loading operative system"
[03:47] <pepee> some time ago I was booting the vm as root, and it worked
[03:47] <_nix_> I just realised that I don't know how to format a usb stick outside command line. ...
[03:49] <tsimpson> I'm sure a partitioner can do it, but not as quickly as knowing your way around mkfs
[03:49] <_nix_> Wow guys, how do you format a usb stick anyway? A quick look around the menus didn't have anything.
[03:50] <pepee> _nix_, I don't know
[03:50] <pepee> and btw, automount is not working for me
[03:51] <_nix_> pepee: having yourself in the "disk" group provides you raw accesss to the block device. If that isn't working for your program my best guess is that it needs something else..
[03:51] <pepee> hmm well, i will try to find what is the problem
[03:57] <_nix_> I guess BiosElement fell asleep. Can anybody else confirm if Ctrl+Alt+f1 is working right?
[03:59] <lizzzy> I can't get flash audio to work on kubuntu 9.10 :(
[04:01] <pepee> _nix_, it works for me (it shows tty1)
[04:02] <_nix_> pepee: ahh thanks, not working for me :(
[04:02] <pepee> lizzzy, check the PCM option in kmix, or try reinstalling flash
[04:03] <maverick_> hi guys
[04:03] <pepee> _nix_, problems the with graphic card?
[04:03] <lizzzy> pepee: THe flash video works fine. Will check PCM now
[04:03] <pepee> hi maverick_
[04:03] <maverick_> i've got a problem
[04:03] <maverick_> on my internal mic
[04:03] <lizzzy> Oh wow. It seems the PCM was the problem!
[04:03] <lizzzy> Thanks, pepee :)
[04:03] <maverick_> i'm using acer 4736Z
[04:04] <maverick_> anybody who can help me
[04:04] <maverick_> hi lizzy
[04:04] <genu> Hey I'm trying to modify a plasmoid...and i'm supposed add a few lines to the code...http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Facebook?content=106752 ...where is the file I need to modify though?
[04:04] <maverick_> hi lizzzy
[04:05] <maverick_> elaborate please
[04:05] <_nix_> pepee: Its an old intel onboard controller.
[04:05] <maverick_> what should i do?
[04:05] <lizzzy> hey maverick_ , it'd working now!
[04:05] <pepee> lizzzy, "<dmartinezc> Hydrant: check the PCM option in the sound options"
[04:05] <lizzzy> :)
[04:05] <pepee> so thank dmartinezc :)
[04:05] <pepee> *give thanks to dmartinezc
[04:06] <pepee> _nix_, try the last intel drivers
[04:06] <pepee> the FOS ones
[04:07] <pepee> well, I suppose they are in karmic
[04:09] <_nix_> pepee: I'm really sorry but it seems my keyboard is the culprit, kinda funny huh? lol
[04:09] <pepee> haha
[04:10] <_nix_> So how do I make it work with the RIGHT alt key? the left one is almost dead.
[04:12] <pepee> _nix_, xmodmap
[04:12] <pepee> I had to change the ESC key because it was not working
[04:13] <_nix_> Ahh, I'll take a look at thank. Thank you.
[04:14] <pepee> _nix_, for example: xmodmap -e 'keycode 127 = Escape'; xmodmap -e 'keycode 9 = Pause Break'
[04:16]  * _nix_ nods.
[04:26] <callnett> hello agagin
[04:27] <callnett> somebody know how can i get ubuntu studio?
[04:28] <pepee> bye ppl
[04:28] <pepee> thanks
[04:40] <callnett> somebody know how can i get ubuntu studio?
[04:52] <skreech> !ubuntustudio | callnett
[04:53] <Byron> I'm trying to edit a file in the /tmp directory, but the change to '#! /bin/bash' keeps reverting to /bin/sh
[04:54] <Byron> It's a pecl install for ssh2
[05:00] <callnett> thanks
[05:09] <jimmy_> hi everyone!
[05:12] <nomopofomo> if i want to wipe my drive completely i can use dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda is that correct? do i need to add anythingabout block size? or can i omit that
[05:14] <dtchen> well, that's one way.
[05:14] <dtchen> I recommend using shred.
[05:15] <dtchen> probably 3 passes is sufficient
[05:18] <nomopofomo> it's not for hiding stuff
[05:18] <nomopofomo> it's for reinitializing the drive
[05:21] <dtchen> there isn't any discernable difference
[05:23] <maverick_> hi guys
[05:23] <maverick_> my front mic still not working
[05:23] <maverick_> acer 4736z
[05:23] <maverick_> anybody who can help me
[05:24] <maverick_> help plsss.
[05:25] <dtchen> more info plsss
[05:25] <skreech> hi jimmy_
[05:30] <xandinho> This is my first time in with this software
[05:31] <MaartenLx> I haven't tried Kubuntu since 8.04, and yeah.... I like it too.
[05:41] <MaartenLx> I am really hoping the US mirror speeds up soon.... :/
[05:42] <skreech> xandinho: Welcome to Kubuntu :)
[05:43] <xandinho> Thank you. I am Brazilian and my English is not so good. : )
[05:44] <dtchen> MaartenLx: use another mirror, of course...
[05:50] <MaartenLx> dtchen: Yeah... I could, but I am in the middle of a big apt-get and don't want to start over :P
[05:51] <skreech> !br
[05:52] <nomopofomo> about how long will it take dd to fill my 300gb hd with 0s?
[05:52] <skreech> If you would like to speak in Portugese :)
[05:52] <skreech> MaartenLx: Start over?
[05:52] <MaartenLx> its almost done I think :P
[05:54] <skreech> MaartenLx: It will pick up exactly where it left off
[06:04] <MaartenLx> heh thanks skreech - found a much much faster mirror
[06:04] <skreech> MaartenLx: Enjoy
[06:07] <Hanumaan> how to install kubuntu using USB ? I don't have cd Drive ..
[06:15] <MaartenLx> Hanumaan: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - although for Ubuntu, I am sure it is virtually identical for the K version :)
[06:15] <skreech> !usb | Hanumaan
[06:21] <kgeek> how to open c:/ directory if i m using wine in kubuntu 9.01
[06:21] <kgeek> how to open c:/ directory if i m using wine in kubuntu 9.10
[06:21] <kgeek> /me help help
[06:21]  * kgeek help 
[06:27] <skreech> kgeek: Hello?
[06:27] <Paulo> good morning
[06:27] <kgeek> skreech: hi..
[06:27] <skreech> Hi Paulo
[06:27] <skreech> kgeek: what's up?
[06:28] <raavan> Hello. I'm here from ubuntu.
[06:28] <kgeek> skreech: can u help me for accessing c:/ of wine
[06:28] <skreech> raavan: Welcome from .. a concept
[06:28] <Paulo> i don't know this is the first time i'm in
[06:28] <skreech> kgeek: what do you mean?
[06:29] <kgeek> skreech: how to open c:/ directory if i m using wine in kubuntu 9.01 have u ever used WINE
[06:29] <raavan> I meant i'm here from ubuntu-desktop
[06:29] <kgeek> raavan: so wat
[06:29] <skreech> kgeek: Yes but I don't know what you want in c:
[06:29] <raavan> I'm planning to shift to kde.
[06:29] <skreech> raavan: ah ok Not sure why that matters :)
[06:30] <skreech> Welcome :)
[06:30] <MaartenLx> I think I figured out the problem there, as it is the same here. The icon starts .wine/dosdevices/c: - but wants to start in the path Documents/.wine/dosdevices/c: - so there is probably a variable wrong there. I suppose you can move the .wine folder over to Documents, or change the variable to /home/user instead of /home/user/Documents.
[06:30] <raavan> how to use firefox better?
[06:30] <skreech> raavan: Better?
[06:31] <skreech> MaartenLx: More like a vaeiable missing
[06:31] <MaartenLx> probably
[06:31] <kgeek> skreech: i want to paste some file in my installed directory of WINE
[06:31] <kgeek> skreech: i m nt able to browse it
[06:31] <skreech> kgeek: it's in ~/.wine
[06:31] <MaartenLx> kgeek, are you using the icon in the launcher menu or are you browsing to it manually using a file manager or terminal?
[06:32] <kgeek> skreech: .wine is nt there ...
[06:32] <MaartenLx> .wine is hidden ;) that's why its got a . in front of it. By default it may not show
[06:32] <kgeek> MaartenLx: i m trying from both but nt able to access
[06:33] <MaartenLx> however, if you type cd .wine you'll get there
[06:33] <skreech> kgeek: press ^H
[06:33] <kgeek> MaartenLx: i have tried it ..but nt .wine is nt there
[06:34] <MaartenLx> have you actually installed wine? lol :P
[06:34] <kgeek> skreech: the srror i m getting is "unable to run the command specified. The file or folder file:///home/kgeek/Documents/.wine/dosdevices/c: does not exist."
[06:34] <kgeek> *error
[06:34] <kgeek> MaartenLx: wat a joke .lolzz ha
[06:34] <MaartenLx> kgeek: That is not where it is. It is in /home/kgeek/.wine/dosdevices/c:
[06:34] <skreech> kgeek: what are you using? A terminal or dolphin?
[06:35] <skreech> raavan: what is better ?
[06:35] <kgeek> skreech: this error i m getting when i m using dolphin
[06:35] <MaartenLx> its not in the Documents folder, the icon in the launcher menu is wrong by default. ;)
[06:35] <skreech> kgeek: Right in dolphin press ^l
[06:36] <skreech> type ~/.wine
[06:36] <kgeek> k le me try
[06:37] <capcom> buongiorno
[06:38] <skreech> brb
[06:39] <kgeek> skreech: thnxx
[06:39] <capcom> compliments to the developers of the jaunty->karmic migration tool.. this time it worked for the first time without errors or major problems. well done :)
[06:42] <raavan> what are the qt alternates of firefox and open office and other common programs
[06:45] <MaartenLx> Hmm! I seem to have lost the dual desktop switcher icon from my taskbar.... where could that have gone now....
[06:45] <bbeck> raavan: firefox -> konqueror, rekonq, arora; Open Office -> KOffice
[06:50] <raavan> Feels polished
[06:57] <raavan> anything for package management? KPackageKit asked me password in gtk
[07:01] <dwidmann> and I just crashed ubiquity on my first try :(
[07:12] <easylife> The new release is great!Now I have more reasons to use kde instead of Gnome
[07:12] <easylife> I like it
[07:12] <dwidmann> hmmm, it looks like ubiquity will crash every single time if I click "skip" when it's configuring apt :(
[07:17] <easylife> oh ,sorry. what's ubiquity? I've never used it.
[07:18] <dwidmann> Kubuntu's graphical installer .. on the live CD/DVD
[07:19] <Roasted> Does anybody have Kubuntu 9.10 running virtually in the latest version of Virtualbox?
[07:20] <MaartenLx> no, but I was thinking of downloading virtual box for a Windows install. ;)
[07:20] <easylife> oh,I updated my os  to kubuntu9.10 using gnome's apt graphic-front
[07:23] <tred> anyone know a channel for vnc issues? im running headless and hav a few minor issues
[07:24] <easylife> does everyone really like amarok?
[07:26] <bigbrovar_> easylife> I do I think they are doing a great job
[07:27] <bigbrovar_> easylife> most of the missing features in 1.4x are been added to 2 and its generally more stable (but am a mpd + sonata person)
[07:30] <doktor> hi
[07:30] <doktor> ı have a problem
[07:31] <easylife> but I think it's too fat! And the panel that displaying  irc script is not beautiful
[07:32] <doktor> herhangi biri var mı yardım edbilecek?
[07:32] <MaartenLx> I like Quassel actually, never heard of it before until this week
[07:33] <MaartenLx> doktor: English.
[07:35] <doktor>  ı know a little english ok
[07:35] <doktor> my problem is voice
[07:36] <easylife> I have a problem .My google calender can't automatic login.
[07:37] <easylife> it says "your browser's cookie functionality is turned off." how can i turn it on?
[07:40] <Shaxor> Hey
[07:41] <Shaxor> I saw this video about kubuntu and each desktop had its own set of widgets, How do I get my desktop to do the same
[07:44] <tred> i think u have to switch to the second desktop and add the widgets there, but i havent tried it yet
[07:45] <tred> nope, that doesnt work
[07:47] <Shaxor> It doesn't work?
[07:47] <Shaxor> its not on by default?
[07:48] <tred> it sems the widgets are global, but maybe there is a plasma setting to change that, i havent looked yet, just getting used to plasma myself
[07:51] <Shaxor> same here
[07:52] <Roey> hello..  I get a message from KDE when booting X that "some sound devices" are disconnected.  What am I missing here?
[07:53] <seige36> hey all can someone help me start the daap plugin in rhythmbox?
[07:55] <Peace-> hey guys
[07:55] <Peace-> i have a problem i can't find this stuff
[07:55] <Peace-> kdelibs-experimentals
[07:55] <Peace-> it should be on repository
[07:56] <Peace-> but on karmic i can't find out
[07:56] <tred> isnt that a repository option in synaptic?
[07:56] <Roey> and when I run 'alsamixer' as non-root, I get 'alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory
[07:56] <Roey> '
[07:57] <Peace-> Roey: that means you have a problem with alsa and your audio card
[07:57] <Roey> ah.
[07:57] <Peace-> your could try to install again alsa
[07:57] <Roey> When I was on Intrepid, before installing Karmic, it worked fine
[07:57] <Peace-> of couse
[07:57] <Roey> when I run alsamixer with sudo, it runs fine too
[07:58] <Peace-> a lots of guys had problem with karmic and audio
[07:58] <Roey> aaaaah
[07:58] <Peace-> Roey: mm
[07:58] <Peace-> ok
[07:58] <Roey> did their problems share a common reason?
[07:58] <Peace-> you maybe are not on audio group?
[07:58] <Roey> ah!
[07:58] <Roey> that's it!
[07:58] <Roey> I *knew* there had to be something
[07:58] <Peace-> sudo adduser $USER audio
[07:58] <Roey> thanks  :)
[07:59] <Roey> should I log out of KDE and startx again?
[07:59] <Roey> (to get it to take effect)
[07:59] <Peace-> you should
[07:59] <Roey> alright.  BRB.
[07:59] <Roey> *thanks*
[07:59] <Peace-> np
[08:00] <Shaxor> I saw this video about kubuntu and each desktop had its own set of widgets, How do I get my desktop to do the same. Im asking again
[08:01] <Peace-> mmm
[08:01] <Peace-> i think you have to zoon out
[08:01] <bigbrovar_> I noticed something strange. am still technically using the RC version of karmic+ latest update (even though i have seen no updates since like a week before karmic final) packagekit has this bug where it crashes if i try to using it to edit my source.list however the livecd of the final karmic doesnt have this bug
[08:01] <Peace-> with CTRL   -
[08:01] <Peace-> then you have to add activity
[08:02] <bigbrovar_> plus i feel the graphic on the livecd of the final release is smoother than what i get on the RC+latest updates. is this a classic case of greener on the other side?
[08:02] <ilter> Hello i've a question about codecs? Is there any codecs for dragon player. I'm watching divx but it's viewing isn't good.
[08:03] <Peace-> ilter: you have to install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[08:03] <Peace-> that's all
[08:03] <seige36> hey all can someone help me start the daap plugin in rhythmbox? Unable to activate plugin DAAP Music Sharing
[08:03] <Peace-> rhythmbox?
[08:03] <Peace-> is not kde application
[08:03] <seige36> like amarok
[08:03] <ilter> how can i install kubuntu-restricted-extras?
[08:03] <Peace-> you shoudl go on #ubuntu
[08:04] <seige36> no it works on kde
[08:04] <Peace-> !medibuntu | ilter
[08:04] <seige36> im running karmic
[08:04] <Peace-> seige36: here your will not find out a lots of people using a gtk stuff
[08:04] <Peace-> *lot
[08:04] <seige36> thanks ill try there then
[08:04] <seige36> ill let you know what i find out :)
[08:05] <ilter> Thank you now i'll try it.
[08:06] <Roey> Peace-:  hey thanks, that's it!
[08:06] <Roey> :)
[08:06] <Peace-> Roey:  :) very well
[08:07] <Roey> So.
[08:07] <Roey> why isn't the default user added to the audio group upon installation??
[08:07] <Roey> (I installed from the alternate CD, btw, since I have raid)
[08:07] <Peace-> have you upgraded?
[08:07] <Peace-> fresh installation ?
[08:08] <Peace-> if is a fresh installation that sound strange
[08:08] <Roey> fresh installation.  And for that matter, why is raid such a big deal that it merits its own separate (gui-less) CD?  Can't the desktop CD recognize a softraid1?
[08:08] <Peace-> here it works fine
[08:08] <Roey> ah.
[08:08] <Peace-> i have just checked
[08:08] <Peace-> i am on audio group here
[08:08] <Peace-> Roey: have you created a new user i hope
[08:09] <Roey> than the default one?  I mean, I named it of course
[08:09] <Peace-> when you use kde you should always , this is my experience , delete or rename alwayts $HOME/.kde
[08:09] <Roey> how come?
[08:09] <Roey> I thought I could keep it
[08:09] <dorins> Hi *. I disabled bluetooth service, yet somehow it gets restarted when resuming from suspend. Anyone else having this problem?
[08:09] <Roey> since it is still kde4.
[08:09] <Peace-> that solves a lots of problems expecially if kde version is changed
[08:09] <Roey> of course, I lost my wallpape rbackground for some reason.
[08:10] <Roey> ahhhhh
[08:10]  * Peace- is italian and :S wtf is learning english supporting kubuntu lol
[08:10] <dtchen> for Kubuntu and Xubuntu, it certainly would be a bug if the default user is not in @audio
[08:11] <Roey> oh, btw, I used to have it a while back where the system timeout was set to 0 somewhere in /etc/pam.d/login*  if you (locally) put in three wrong password attempts.  Do you have any information on how to do this?
[08:11] <Roey> hola dtchen  :)
[08:11] <Roey> dtchen:  yeah that's what I experienced.
[08:11] <Roey> (with the alternate disc)
[08:11] <dtchen> for Ubuntu, PulseAudio handles @audio access via ConsoleKit, so there's no need for the default user to be in @audio per se
[08:11] <Roey> er I had to add it
[08:11] <Roey> then it magically worked.
[08:12] <Peace-> i have installed by alpha5 disk
[08:12] <Peace-> normal cd
[08:12] <Peace-> and i am on the audio group
[08:12] <Peace-> but i have added a new ultra fresh user
[08:13] <Shaxor> I saw this video about kubuntu and each desktop had its own set of widgets, How do I get my desktop to do the same. Im asking again lol All i want to know is if im able to do it or if the removed it
[08:13] <Peace-> Shaxor: i said before go on the desktop
[08:13] <Peace-> Shaxor: press CTRL -
[08:13] <Peace-> that shpuld zoom out
[08:13] <Peace-> then....add activity
[08:15] <Shaxor> Ahh okay sorry I missed that, Thank you so much Peace
[08:15] <Peace-> then you have to configure plasma
[08:15] <Peace-> ther eis the opion
[08:15] <Peace-> -.-''
[08:15] <Peace-> there is the option
[08:15] <FloodBotK2> Peace-: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:15] <Peace-> xD
[08:20] <Peace-> !upgrade | ilter
[08:21] <tred> any idea why repeating keys stops when using vnc?
[08:21] <bigbrovar_> Peace-> hey do u have this bug in karmic where kpackagekit crashes when u try to edit sources ?
[08:22] <kblin> hi folks
[08:24] <Peace-> bigbrovar_: no
[08:24] <Peace-> bigbrovar_: i have kde 4.3.2
[08:24] <bigbrovar_> Peace-> same here on karmic?
[08:25] <Peace-> karmic user here without problems with kpackagekit
[08:26] <pargari> hi
[08:26] <bigbrovar_> Peace-> seems i should do a clean install of the final version then, since am still running RC+latest updates and i couldnt reproduce the crash when i tried the final release on RC
[08:27] <bigbrovar_> in a live session
[08:27] <Peace-> mmm
[08:27] <Peace-> you should got thestable with the latest updated
[08:27] <Peace-> -d.-''
[08:27] <Peace-> updates
[08:28] <Peace-> i was on alpha5 then with updates i was on beta then in rc and now in stable
[08:28] <miquel> -
[08:29] <kblin> I just upgraded my system to to karmic and it seems that it doesn't load my LVM anymore so it fails to boot
[08:29] <kblin> known issue?
[08:34] <bigbrovar_> Peace-> just happened again  here is the debug errors http://pastebin.com/m14eaefd3
[08:37] <Peace-> bigbrovar_: mm here , and i must rewrite here, it doesn't crash. you could get a bad system , i mean unstable because of some problems with upgrading or bad installation or whaterver
[08:37] <Peace-> i suggest to open a bug report
[08:37] <Peace-> or try to install a new fresh kubuntu with a new fresh user
[08:38] <Peace-> then if you can see again the problem for sure it's a bug
[08:40] <bigbrovar_> Peace> will do that thanks
[08:41] <Peace-> np
[08:52] <machiel> hello everybody, I have a question. I'm using epiphany as a browser, and I downloaded a kubuntu iso, but I can't find it. When I check where the downloads are placed it is in "filesystem" And my rootpartitition has shrunked with 700 mb, exactly the download. But I can't find it. Anyone any idea
[08:54] <Peace-> of couse you can not find out
[08:54] <Peace-> kubuntu uses konqueror like browser
[08:55] <tred> use the file browser to do a wildcard search for .iso
[08:56] <Peace-> kubuntu iso i think has only qt-software
[08:56] <kgeek_> Peace-: do some tweaks with the toolbar   of ur browser(epiphany) u willl be able to find the download location
[08:58] <machiel> downloadlocation is "filesystem" according toolbar. No specification whatsoever.
[09:13] <eagles0513875> are there any gui based ssh tunnelrs available in the repositories?
[09:15] <phoenix_> hi all! Can you help me? I've just installed kubuntu 9-10 and trying to install drivers for my nvidia. i open window "devices drivers", press Activate button, and nothing happans...
[09:16] <eagles0513875> phoenix_: you can also install the driver via commandline
[09:17] <tred> eagle, is squid ssh?
[09:17] <eagles0513875> phoenix_: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-185 i believe the package name is
[09:17] <eagles0513875> tred: no its proxy server
[09:17] <phoenix_> ok, thanks
[09:17] <tred> i know gadmin-tools does squid and vpn
[09:18] <kgeek_> phoenix_: yaa eagles0513875 said is quite correct ..
[09:18] <eagles0513875> :)
[09:18] <eagles0513875> i know there is http://www.darrenalbers.com/gstm/ but its for ancient breezy and dapper
[09:18] <eagles0513875> and im having issues compiling it from source
[09:22] <FryPan> anyone alive can help me?
[09:22] <eagles0513875> im here
[09:22] <eagles0513875> not sure if i can help ya or not until i know your issue
[09:22] <FryPan> kk.  you know anything about a persistant FS install?
[09:22] <Peace-> ?
[09:23] <eagles0513875> FryPan: you talking about persistent install on usb
[09:23] <Peace-> why people uses  with shortcut
[09:23] <Peace-> like FS
[09:23] <eagles0513875> and im guessing fs = flash storage such as usb drives
[09:23] <FryPan> no.  someone has my FS hooked
[09:23] <eagles0513875> file system hooked
[09:23] <FryPan> yeah, even after format
[09:23] <eagles0513875> im not sure
[09:24] <FryPan> even after new hard drive, motherboard,
[09:24] <FryPan> router
[09:24] <eagles0513875> not sure FryPan :(
[09:24] <FryPan> you think a monitor or possibly a graphics card ram could do it?
[09:24] <FryPan> NVRAMtool says my nvram is configured in mac
[09:24] <eagles0513875> could possibly im not sure FryPan
[09:25] <FryPan> could you do a port scan of me?  and let me know what it shows for you?
[09:27] <FryPan> familiar at all with lsat?  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8212272#post8212272  seems really weird the permissions setup
[09:27] <FryPan> thats my scan
[09:29] <FryPan> all my self scan shows is port 6000 [xorg] open
[09:29] <delpaul_> есть проблема с сетью в 9.10 может кто решил, не грузится ни один сайт, по локалке вижу всех но сайт с локалки не грузится
[09:30] <eagles0513875> delpaul: what language do you need
[09:31] <Peace-> delpaul_: here is english room
[09:31] <eagles0513875> FryPan: ports only get open when needed otherwise they are always closed
[09:31] <delpaul_> :))))
[09:31] <eagles0513875> FryPan: do a netstat -a the ip of the machine your on
[09:31] <Peace-> !russian | delpaul_
[09:32] <kubuntik> У меня есть проблемка: Видюха ATI 48хх серии. Скачал с сайта радеона следующие дрова http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=2.4.1.3.36&lang=English . Следуя статье  http://help.ubuntu.ru/wiki/%D1%83%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BA%D0%B0_%D0%B4%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%B2%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B0_ati остановился на 1
[09:32] <kubuntik>  шаге, т.к. нет пакетов libstdc++5. Что делать?
[09:32] <eagles0513875> kubuntik: english only here bro. what language do you need
[09:33] <Peace-> !english | kubuntik
[09:45] <raphael> good morning
[09:45] <Peace-> good morning
[09:46] <raphael> Peace-: I'd like to mount a LVM2 volume
[09:46] <raphael> Peace-: Do you know how it works?
[09:48] <Peace-> i am sorry i hav no idea of what is LVM2
[09:49] <raphael> ok
[09:50] <raphael> me too, but I think that's part of the problem
[09:50] <eagles0513875> !lvm
[09:50] <eagles0513875> !lvm2
[09:51] <raphael> eagles0513875: Thank you
[09:53] <eagles0513875> no problem raphael
[09:53] <raphael> eagles0513875: I've read a lvm howto and the operation described does not work
[09:54] <raphael> eagles0513875: do you know anything about lvm?
[09:54] <eagles0513875> no i dont raphael :( as i only have one drive in my machine
[09:59] <sasa_> hello there
[09:59] <sasa_> lot of people in here
[10:00] <sasa_> :)
[10:01] <Sqyber> where i can add "activity bar" applet to taskbar on kubuntu notebook edition
[10:03] <sasa_> everybody sleeps
[10:03] <sasa_> :)
[10:03] <sasa_> i am not sure because i am using desktop version
[10:04] <sasa_> i have problem with this indicator display
[10:04] <sasa_> because it doesn't work
[10:04] <tred> what does it display?
[10:05] <sasa_> nothing
[10:05] <sasa_> it is just standing
[10:05] <tred> what should it display?
[10:05] <sasa_> that and do nothing
[10:05] <sasa_> it should be like new
[10:05] <sasa_> gadget
[10:05] <sasa_> which displays
[10:05] <sasa_> pop up
[10:05] <sasa_> messages
[10:05] <FloodBotK2> sasa_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:06] <tred> which widget?
[10:06] <sasa_> indicator display
[10:07] <tred> what kind of messages?
[10:07] <sasa_> what do you mean?
[10:07] <tred> what is name of gadget?
[10:07] <sasa_> this is widget i am talking about
[10:07] <sasa_> and name of it
[10:08] <sasa_> is Indicator display
[10:08] <tred> i have not sen that one, let me look again
[10:08] <tred> *seen
[10:09] <sasa_> it is default on Kubuntu 9.10 now. see that little envelope
[10:09] <tred> i see it now
[10:09] <sasa_> in right bottom of the screen
[10:10] <sasa_> that should displays when you receive new message on pidgin or quassel or some other messanger and right now it doesn't work
[10:11] <tred> i have it running now but not sure how it works either, hehe
[10:11] <sasa_> actually, it doesn't give me any menu even when i click with right mouse button
[10:12] <tred> send me msg here and let me see if mine works
[10:13] <FryPan> anyone know anything about a persistant FS ?
[10:13] <FryPan> like a unwanted cloudfs install?
[10:15] <FryPan> or a boot option that would give someone a fighting chance at a fresh install?  lol
[10:15] <rhkfin> Anyone else had problems making Kaffeine play DVD on Karmic? It tries to read /dev/dvd that doesn't exists. Dragonplayer works ok (but it's limited vs. kaffeine..)
[10:17] <FryPan> VLC ftw
[10:17] <Pete_R> Hi people! How can i install drivers for Broadcom wireless card? Hardware drivers doesn't work :|
[10:18] <rhkfin> Anyone know why Kaffeine lost its settings -menu?
[10:18] <FryPan> synaptic?
[10:18] <FryPan> hah
[10:18] <djd92l> Hello! A friend of mine experiences random freezes on his system. It does not matter what he do or when he does something. The complete machine is frozen and I can't even restart it using ssh or a similar application. That problem began to happen as he installed Kubuntu 9.04 and it still continues to happen until now in Kubuntu 9.10. The thing I do not understand is, that this problem *not* accour in ArchLinux even if he uses the exact same driver
[10:18] <djd92l>  version (2.9.0). Does anyone know how to solve that problem?
[10:19] <FryPan> maybe a problem with the install, possibly a problem with his hardware eg. motherboard or cpu
[10:19] <FryPan> has he tried reinstalling?
[10:19] <FryPan> has he tried mesuring his temps and stuff?
[10:20] <FryPan> possibly his cpu is overheating
[10:20] <djd92l> FryPan: yes. that problem started from the moment we installed kubuntu 9.04 (that was neccessary because of the wlan support)
[10:20] <zeelot> hey guys, was wondering what key combination I have to press for the desktop widgets to show ? want a simple way to show/hide them
[10:20] <FryPan> and he ran like windows before?
[10:22] <FryPan>  If all your screenlets are set to be sticky, switching to another desktop will do somewhat that. I don't know if hotkeys are setup for that, on mine, its Ctrl-Alt-Left and Ctrl-Alt-Right.
[10:22] <djd92l> FryPan: Also i exclude a hardware fault, because everything works fine (on the hardware side) in ArchLinux. Yes, he has installed Windows simultanous.
[10:22] <FryPan> hmm maybe a problem with the media
[10:22] <zeelot> FryPan: was that to me?
[10:22] <FryPan> zeelot yes
[10:23] <djd92l> lol
[10:23] <FryPan> CTR-ALT-D will show desktop
[10:23] <zeelot> ah so you have ctrl-alt-left to switch desktop?
[10:23] <FryPan> but hide ur screenlets
[10:23] <FryPan> yar
[10:23] <zeelot> yea that doesn't hide windows for me =(
[10:23] <zeelot> same with left/right
[10:23] <FryPan> djd ubuntu is so much less stressful than windows
[10:23] <FryPan> i would try a fresh install with different media
[10:23] <FryPan> maybe try not installing acpi or lacpi
[10:24] <djd92l> FryPan: I know that :)
[10:24] <FryPan> noacpi nolacpi in boot args
[10:24] <FryPan> zeelot you cant be in a media, like this chat box to hit that hotkey
[10:24] <zeelot> how can I configure ctrl+alt+left to switch desktops?
[10:24] <FryPan> but you can always set ur own hotkeys
[10:24] <zeelot> hmm
[10:24] <FryPan> sec
[10:24] <FryPan> you find ur keyboard layout menu?
[10:25] <zeelot> mm?
[10:25] <FryPan> should be like >system>settings
[10:25] <zeelot> I'm there
[10:25] <FryPan> then like shortcuts for switching layout
[10:25] <FryPan> im on karmic so its not really same as jaunty
[10:25] <zeelot> I'm on karmic too
[10:26] <FryPan> just open ur shortcut menu and type keyboard
[10:26] <FryPan> and see if anything pops up
[10:26] <FryPan> i have a whole host of options on karmic
[10:26] <zeelot> what shortcut menu
[10:27] <FryPan> like ur "start menu"
[10:27] <FryPan> are you on karmic?
[10:27] <FryPan> \
[10:27] <zeelot> yes
[10:27] <zeelot> 9.10
[10:27] <FryPan> lol
[10:27] <zeelot> right?
[10:27] <FryPan> start > systemsettings > regional & language
[10:27] <FryPan> then go to keyboard layout
[10:27] <FryPan> and you can figure it out from there
[10:28] <FryPan> lots of fun stuff
[10:28] <alan___> is this help for ubuntu?
[10:28] <zeelot> yea I have no such thing
[10:28] <zeelot> ...
[10:28] <FryPan> erm, i forget im on kubuntu lol
[10:28] <zeelot> I'm on kubuntu 9.10....
[10:28] <FryPan> you have a start menu bottom left corner?
[10:28] <zeelot> yes
[10:29] <FryPan> you open it it has a search bar?
[10:29] <zeelot> ah found keyboard layout
[10:29] <zeelot> hmm
[10:29] <FryPan> type System Settings
[10:29] <FryPan> yes..
[10:29] <FryPan> there you are
[10:29] <alan___> hi
[10:30] <zeelot> wow how confusing
[10:30] <zeelot> why would the setting to switch desktop ever be here?? seems so illogical
[10:32] <FryPan> lol
[10:32] <FryPan> oops
[10:32] <FryPan> i gave u wrong info
[10:32] <zeelot> hope so lol
[10:32] <FryPan> go back to overview
[10:32] <FryPan> go to keyboard and mouse
[10:32] <zeelot> k
[10:32] <FryPan> then global keyboard shortcuts
[10:33] <FryPan> show Dashboard is defaulted to control F12
[10:34] <FryPan> that what u were after?
[10:34] <zeelot> yea that works
[10:34] <zeelot> switching desktops is also in here somewhere I assume?
[10:34] <FryPan> lots of stuff you can setup there
[10:34] <FryPan> yeah, you could turn on ur coffee pot with ur keyboard from there
[10:35] <zeelot> wish it would let me search them all at once but ok
[10:35] <zeelot> thanks
[10:35] <FryPan> np
[10:35] <FryPan> have fun ;D
[10:36] <eagles0513875> alan___: what model broadcom wifi card do you have
[10:38] <FryPan> sudo apt-get install bcmwl-modaliases
[10:38] <mauri> my amule has download bandwith set to 36.... there is not possible to enance it...it remains always set to 36
[10:39] <zeelot> I like the beryl way of showing the cube with alt+ctrl+click(hold), is that possible with kwin?
[10:39] <FryPan> alt-tab?
[10:39] <zeelot> trying to set a custom value lets me do ctrl+alt but it doesn't 'register' the click
[10:41] <FryPan> under Kwin
[10:41] <FryPan> you get switch desktop down, switch to desktop 1 etc..
[10:41] <zeelot> yea I did those
[10:41] <FryPan> walk through desktop list..
[10:41] <zeelot> my question is, how can I add a mouse click as an action?
[10:42] <FryPan> h
[10:42] <FryPan> ah
[10:42] <FryPan> i see
[10:42] <FryPan> hmm,
[10:42] <zeelot> is that possible?
[10:43] <zeelot> I'm just being picky at this point =P
[10:43] <FryPan> u know it might be kinda strange if you tried to map ur mouse buttons to keyboard buttons
[10:43] <FryPan> but im sure you could do it.
[10:43] <zeelot> well like the beryl thing is nice
[10:43] <FryPan> but personally i dont know
[10:44] <zeelot> you hit ctrl+alt+click n drag
[10:44] <FryPan> i control kde with my mind
[10:44] <FryPan> i dont use any inputs
[10:44] <zeelot> anyway, I should get some sleep
[10:44] <zeelot> heh
[10:44] <zeelot> thanks for help
[10:44] <FryPan> :D
[10:44] <FryPan> np
[10:44] <zeelot> gnite
[10:44] <FloodBotK2> zeelot: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:44] <FryPan>  n n
[10:45] <zeelot> lol gnite to you too FloodBotK2
[10:55] <mauri> shadeslayer: i have problem with maximun bandwith amlue
[10:55] <Benkinooby> hi all. wanted to say thank you for this nice kubuntu. installed it yesterday and after some small pain it works now very well
[10:55] <Benkinooby> well done
[10:56] <Benkinooby> (hope some developers are reading it... or is there a dev-chat?)
[10:58] <Assurbanipal> hi everyone.installed kubuntu 9,10 on dual boot machine. After upgrading the grub (automatically) i can no longer boot into windows. i get error saying "invalid signature". can someone please help me?
[11:05] <gl_> Assurbanipal: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=bc74e647112507cf6d92a2aa8631a64d&t=1264151&page=2
[11:05] <gl_> Assurbanipal: last message on that thread
[11:06] <Assurbanipal> gl_: will check it right now,tnx
[11:09] <zy> hi all, when using konqueror address bar to search, i get "Forbidden, Your client does not have permission to get URL" any ideas?
[11:22] <zy> hi all, when using konqueror address bar to search, i get "Forbidden, Your client does not have permission to get URL" any ideas? :(
[11:25] <amik> is there a general kubuntu changelog somewhere, with the various dates/highlightes of updated packages in the repos?
[11:26] <tred> zy what type address were u searching?
[11:26] <mauri> shadeslayer: i have problem with maximun bandwith amlue
[11:38] <zy> tred; for example google will give the mentioned error, whereas google.com will not
[12:04] <piter> hi
[12:12] <eagles0513875> !ufw
[12:12]  * eagles0513875 goes back to corner to try and figure out whats wrong with this command
[12:13] <amik> is there any advantage to using ufw over, say, guarddog?
[12:16] <Ursus> hi
[12:17] <Ursus> huh?
[12:17] <Peace--> ?
[12:20] <fadh> hi
[12:20] <necmibilek> hi
[12:22] <necmibilek> i ve downloaded 9.10 and trying to install but splash screen is in a loop.. and can't process any further things...
[12:22] <necmibilek> i've run cd in graphics-safe move and still same
[12:23] <necmibilek> at 30% checking filesystem
[12:23] <necmibilek> mhope anyone can help me
[12:24] <amik> this happens straight from the livecd? did u verify the cd?
[12:24] <necmibilek> md5 is the same
[12:24] <amik> what hardware?
[12:25] <amik> btw I'll tell u in advance I'm no expert, but I can try :-)
[12:25] <necmibilek> ok i ll try to verify cd from the boot list first
[12:25] <necmibilek> maybe it s about the cd
[12:26] <necmibilek> coz already i have 9ç4
[12:26] <necmibilek> *9.4
[12:32] <Ursus> uhß
[12:38] <aLeSD> first time in kubuntu
[12:38] <aLeSD> it's nice
[12:39] <nomopofomo> yep
[12:39] <nomopofomo> kde 4.3 is really good
[12:40] <miki> 3x
[12:40] <gl_> When booting and the kubuntu screen appears, there is a brief message about "One or more..." I cannot read the rest as it quickly goes away
[12:40] <gl_> where can I find this message logged?
[12:41] <amik> maybe the syslog?
[12:41] <gl_> It is in a pale blue writing below the Kubuntu logo
[12:41] <necmibilek> (amik) hi again still same problem
[12:42] <gl_> amik: thanks there is nothing like the message that appears on screen...
[12:42] <Alt666> lello friends
[12:42] <Alt666> h*
[12:43] <amik> gl_: maybe film it with a video cam, and freeze the frame to read the message :-p
[12:43] <nomopofomo> i'm trying to configure mplayer to see that i just built the latest x264 codec and i reran configure but it still won't automatically recognize it, what's that command that fixes that?
[12:43] <emcpn> hello
[12:43] <gl_> amik: I tried... the resolution is bad...
[12:43] <Alt666> hello
[12:43] <gl_> I will try a photo
[12:46] <amik> gl_: maybe try grepping through all /var/log
[12:46] <amik> necmibilek: what hardware r u on?
[12:49] <necmibilek> amd athlon 32b + 480 mb memory
[12:49] <necmibilek> i m downloading alternate cd
[12:50] <amik> necmibilek: graphics?
[12:51] <necmibilek> onboard
[12:52] <amik> necmibilek: chipset?
[12:53] <necmibilek> chipset? u mean board? it s asus a7v8x
[12:53] <shadeslayer> necmibilek: he means the graphics card
[12:56] <necmibilek> ok chipset there s two line VIA KM400 & VIA VT8235 CE
[12:56] <daDudeMan> is it me or can others cut/paste out of Konsole terminal?
[12:56] <noren> hi all
[12:56] <AlexZion> hi everyone...., yesterday I was installing Kubuntu Karmic on a laptop with an Ati graphic card , and I got problem installing the graphic driver ...., any suggestion ?
[12:57] <amik> necmibilek: the a7v8x doesn't look like it has integrated graphics... maybe a submodel?
[12:57] <noren> AlexZion, whats the prob
[12:57] <necmibilek> amik: a7v8x-mx se
[12:57] <noren> daDudeMan, ??
[12:58] <cba123_> For some reason, my screen gets pixelated and I don't know why, seems to be some times when I play media, I currently I have kubuntu karmic nvidia 190 drivers, happened when I had kubuntu jaunty and 185 drivers too http://imagebin.ca/view/HN8QHY.html
[12:58] <AlexZion> noren: after the installation , when I restart ,it just doesn't display nothing
[12:58] <kavurt> http://www.russianinternet.com/radio/ how can i play these radios in chromium?
[12:58] <noren> AlexZion, are u able to get to the console login
[12:58] <amik> necmibilek: "Integrated VIA UniChrome Graphics", ok...
[12:59] <AlexZion> noren: just in recovery mode....
[13:00] <noren> AlexZion, have u tried the recover/reconfigure the display in the recovery mode
[13:00] <necmibilek> amik: u think it s the reason?
[13:00] <AlexZion> noren: yes I did , but it doesn't works ..
[13:01] <amik> necmibilek: iirc there's some issues with them, which can be worked around. try googling, maybe https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UniChrome or https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenChrome
[13:01] <amik> necmibilek: (sorry I don't have this gpu and don't know the details... just heard someone here with similar problems pointed there)
[13:01] <necmibilek> ok i ll check
[13:01] <noren> AlexZion, are u able to get till the login screen in normal boot
[13:01] <necmibilek> mthnx amik
[13:01] <AlexZion> noren: no, I can't
[13:02] <amik> necmibilek: maybe try the different driver types... I hope this helps
[13:02] <AlexZion> noren: I get a black display after the splashscreeen
[13:02] <amik> necmibilek: or maybe ask here for specific help with this chipset, and whomever knows about it will help :-)
[13:03] <necmibilek> amik: i ve 9.4 installed
[13:03] <necmibilek> and unno why cant install 9.10
[13:04] <necmibilek> let me try another cd or i ll install 9.4 again
[13:04] <amik> necmibilek: it always restarts in a loop?
[13:05] <amik> necmibilek: ok, try both livecds, if jaunty works and karmic fails, then it might indeed be something that changed in the drivers... I'm not sure though
[13:05] <AlexZion> noren: I read somewhere that I should change the  "AccelMethod as EXA"on the "xorg.conf", but not i haven't the laptop here right now...., it could be the solution ?, should I try it ?
[13:06] <necmibilek> amik: not restart, it justs enters in a loop and try to show icons in the splash screen again and again
[13:06] <necmibilek> amik: yes jaunty is my installed system
[13:07] <noren> i have never tried that myself, so cant comment on it
[13:07] <necmibilek> amik: i ll try alternate cd
[13:07] <amik> necmibilek: wait, icons? r u talking about the kubuntu loading splash screen, or the login window, or the kde startup window?
[13:07] <necmibilek> amik: yes
[13:07] <amik> necmibilek: yes to which? :-)
[13:08] <necmibilek> amik: well splash screen shows disk and bla bla first blurred
[13:09] <amik> necmibilek: oh... that's the kde startup screen - you're past the kubuntu splash and login...
[13:09] <necmibilek> amik: okey
[13:09] <daDudeMan> noren:  can you copy/paste in and out of Konsole with  mouse?
[13:09] <amik> necmibilek: but actually it still makes sense it might be the graphics drivers
[13:10] <amik> necmibilek: maybe u can try disabling dektop effects, they use to give me trouble entering kde
[13:11] <necmibilek> amik: i ve run graphics-safe mode at the command screen screen s again locked
[13:11] <amik> necmibilek: u can do it from the console: edit .kde/share/config/kwinrc, update 'enabled=true' to 'enabled=false' under the Compositing section
[13:12] <necmibilek> amik: ok. then how can i install kubuntu before do that?
[13:13] <BluesKaj> howdy
[13:13] <amik> maybe u can give it a try on the livecd too - go to a console (ctrl-alt-f2 at the login screen), make the change, then go back (ctrl-alt-f7)
[13:14] <necmibilek> amik: ok tryin
[13:14] <amik> necmibilek: or maybe BluesKaj can help, he knows things :-)
[13:16] <BluesKaj> amik, necmibilek , maybe I can help , maybe i can't ...what are we dealing with ?
[13:17] <necmibilek> hi BluesKaj
[13:17] <BluesKaj> hi necmibilek
[13:18] <necmibilek> the problem here i ve 9.10 cd and want to install it
[13:18] <imad_> salam alikom
[13:18] <rodensky> Hello ppl :] --- I'm trying to upgrade from Ubuntu 9.04 to 9.10 via Update Manager but it goes sooo slow (since the  29th!!) and has been interupted for 3-4 times up untill now... is there any other way to upgrade? :\
[13:19] <necmibilek> but when kde splash screen opened it s in a loop
[13:19] <necmibilek> thats all
[13:19] <imad_> sudo do-release-upgrade
[13:19] <imad_> sudo do-release-upgrade
[13:20] <BluesKaj> necmibilek, when dealing with graphics drivers it's best to turn off all effects and compiz , so we can eliminate other probs that "effects" might be causing.
[13:20] <rodensky> Thanks Imad. It's not a problem that there are many packages downloaded and some changes were already made?
[13:21] <rockbinxon> hi
[13:21] <rockbinxon> how are you
[13:21] <rockbinxon> i am from colombia
[13:21] <imad_> yes to upgrade there is about 1.3 Go to download
[13:22] <nomopofomo> heya, i don't have an icon for a program i just installed... any idea why and how i can fix it?
[13:23] <imad_> welcome colombia boy :)
[13:25] <kiaoss> hi,
[13:25] <imad_> hi
[13:25] <kiaoss> how i install kubuntu 9.10 form usb
[13:25] <kiaoss> ?
[13:26] <imad_> u can ask google there're a lot of documents
[13:26] <kiaoss> imad_, i asked
[13:26] <kiaoss> but answers about
[13:26] <kiaoss> 9.04
[13:26] <gl_> kiaoss: download the iso, then download unetbootin and use it to create a bootable usb
[13:27] <rodensky> Imad: Can I use  sudo do-release-upgrade although packeges were already downloaded via Update Manager and changes were already made in the system? This will not be a problem?
[13:27] <imad_> :) the same
[13:27] <imad_> no
[13:27] <rodensky> *packages
[13:27] <rodensky> ok 10x =]
[13:28] <kiaoss> gl, thanks
[13:28] <amik> necmibilek: did u try disabling the effects? any progress?
[13:28] <kiaoss> i try it now
[13:28] <necmibilek> BluesKaj: i even try in graphics-safe mode to install 9.10 but as a result
[13:28] <imad_> tell us the result
[13:28] <necmibilek> BluesKaj: screen freezed
[13:29] <BluesKaj> what graphics card necmibilek ?
[13:29] <necmibilek> BluesKaj: i mean blacked 1 second stayed 5 second blacked 1 s .... in a loop
[13:29] <amik> kiaoss: or, if u'r already on a ubuntu machine, u can use usb-creator, and if you're already on a kubuntu 9.10 machine, there's a usb startp creator in the menus
[13:30] <amik> BluesKaj: necmibilek has a via unichrome
[13:30] <necmibilek> "Integrated VIA UniChrome Graphics"
[13:30] <BluesKaj> necmibilek, so you haven't installed anything on the pc yet , just trying the live cd?
[13:31] <necmibilek> yes
[13:34] <kiaoss> amik, i am using pardus
[13:34] <kiaoss> but one my friend want to install
[13:34] <kiaoss> kubntu
[13:34] <Fazer2> hey
[13:34] <kiaoss> he use win vista
[13:34] <Fazer2> am I the only one who doesn't like KPackageKit?
[13:34] <kiaoss> i am trying now unetbootin
[13:35] <amik> kiaoss: for windows that's good, go ahead
[13:35] <imad_> 3lilo ????
[13:35] <adithya> no man try a KDE desktpo
[13:35] <Fazer2> is it safe to uninstall kpackagekit and use synaptic and ubuntu software center instead?
[13:35] <adithya> ya
[13:36] <BluesKaj> necmibilek, I'm doing some research
[13:36] <dorins> I have some xmodmap commands that I need to run when starting X. Were's a good place to stick those?
[13:36] <Fazer2> adithya: was that "ya" directed to me?
[13:37] <amik> Fazer2: I think all package management guis are just frontends for apt, so no problem
[13:38] <Fazer2> amik: thanks
[13:42] <kiaoss> amik, imad, unetbootin
[13:42] <kiaoss> wokrs
[13:42] <kiaoss> now i install
[13:43] <kiaoss> kubuntu
[13:43] <kiaoss> thnaks to all
[13:43] <FloodBotK2> kiaoss: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:43] <amik> kiaoss: have fun :-)
[13:44] <BluesKaj> necmibilek, on the live cd , can you drop to a TTY prompt, ctrl+alt+F1 ?
[13:46] <kaddi> hi, are there any repositories for skype or do I need to update and install it manually?
[13:46] <kiaoss> amik, swap partion necessary
[13:46] <imad_> ok
[13:46] <kiaoss> ?
[13:46] <imad_> yes u need swap part
[13:47] <amik> kaddi: I thing skype have their own repo set up, plus there's medibuntu. in any case u don't need to install manually
[13:47] <imad_> ASSERT: *** Search: _installLocation: engine has no file!
[13:47] <imad_> Stack Trace:
[13:47] <imad_> 0:ENSURE_WARN(false,_installLocation: engine has no file!,2147500037)
[13:47] <imad_> 1:()
[13:47] <imad_> 2:()
[13:47] <FloodBotK2> imad_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:47] <imad_> 3:()
[13:47] <necmibilek> BluesKaj: ı tried and screen totaly freezed
[13:49] <amik> kiaoss: like imad_ said, yes
[13:49] <BluesKaj> necmibilek, there's no prompt ?
[13:49] <kiaoss> amik, ok
[13:50] <kiaoss> but, i didn't separate swap partition
[13:50] <kiaoss> i use pardus without swap partition
[13:50] <kiaoss> and i don't have any problem
[13:51] <amik> necmibilek: not even a blinking cursor or anything? does ctrl-alt-f7 bring u back?
[13:52] <necmibilek> amik BluesKaj
[13:53] <necmibilek> there s no prompt just broken screen and i can turn back with ctrl alt f7
[13:53] <BluesKaj> kaddi, be aware that the default skype app requires pulseaudio , afaik the static version does not , skype_static-2.1.0.47
[13:53] <necmibilek> but still same
[13:53] <amik> kiaoss: I don't know pardus, but in general, I don't see any good reason to do something non-standard, especially for a home user vista dualboot...
[13:55] <BluesKaj> amik there is a driver available for necmibilek , but need to find a way to install it ..it's the xserver-xorg-video-openchrome
[13:56] <david___> whew! made it!
[13:56] <BluesKaj> necmibilek, which live cd are you using ?
[13:56] <amik> necmibilek: but the login screen looks normal, right? does it have an option in the menu to start a console session?
[13:56] <david___> so I switched my xorg.conf to read intel instead of vesa, and booted into a black screen with no tty's available
[13:57] <david___> I finally got it switched back
[13:57] <necmibilek> hey BluesKaj unable to open /etc/mtap & error stdio
[13:57] <david___> how can I tell if the intel driver is installed?
[13:57] <kaddi> BluesKaj: thanks for letting me know. I'm using pulseaudio so that should be fine... I have incoming sound now. :) Gonna work on getting the mic online as well :p
[13:57] <BluesKaj> kaddi, good to hear
[13:57] <BluesKaj> :)
[13:58] <kaddi> BluesKaj: First time ever I'm having sound issues... I'm new to this kind of debugging :p
[13:58] <necmibilek> now ı ll try another cd
[14:00] <fadh> hi all ...
[14:01] <fadh> do you guys have any ideas about webcam in pidgin
[14:03] <aftertaf> anyone stuck with a broken amarok (apart from me??)
[14:04] <aftertaf> problem being : i added the ubuntu tweaks repositories and it stopped working
[14:04] <david___> hmmm, I found the intel_drv.so in the drivers directory
[14:04] <aftertaf> ive tried purging amarok and reinstalling, rm -rf my amarok folder in .kde/
[14:04] <dorins> There's no default /etc/X11/xorg.conf in karmic?
[14:04] <Shockrates> hi does ubuntu have a gui for more stuff than other distros that use gnome? i mean have the ubuntu developers tweaked the gnome gui?
[14:04] <Shockrates> and about kde too
[14:04] <aftertaf> also tried pinning livavcodec & dependencied to older versions, nothing doing
[14:04] <sisol> how to change windows for ubuntu
[14:06] <kaddi> where can I check if my mic is muted? kmix has no option for mit mic showing
[14:06] <newbie1234> hello, i'm new to ubuntu, installed ubuntu 9.04 on a 3 year old toshiba, wifi is working sound too but i can't get the cdrom working, anyone can help?
[14:07] <necmibilek> ok amik & BluesKaj i m installing from alternate cd from now hope this works
[14:09] <newbie1234> join/ #ubuntu
[14:10] <dorins> kaddi: right click kmix tray icon, "Show Mixer Window", "Settings" menu, "Configure Channels" menu item
[14:10] <dorins> kaddi: select mic channels that you want to see
[14:10] <kaddi> dorins: thanks :)
[14:12] <Jevon> Is there a way tio change the menu that pops up when you middle-click
[14:16] <david___> when you middle click on what?
[14:17] <Jevon> desktop
[14:17] <Jevon> unclutter and cascade windows are somewhat useless options for me
[14:17] <david___> download the kde source, make your edits and recompile
[14:17] <Jevon> right...
[14:18] <david___> you'll need a good c++ editor ...
[14:18] <Jevon> there used to just be a spot where I could change that in the desktop settings
[14:20] <vaciouz> ada yang bisa bantu saya
[14:22] <BluesKaj> !id | vaciouz
[14:22] <pucko-> I can't discover any bluetooth devices with kdebluetooth. Anyone got bluetooth working?
[14:22] <Jevon> I thought bluetooth was missing from KDE 4
[14:24] <pucko-> Jevon, it's there now
[14:24] <BluesKaj> !bluez
[14:25] <pucko-> actually, bluez works. it's something with the kde "applet" or whatever it is called.
[14:26] <BluesKaj> !bluetooth
[14:26] <pucko-> thank you
[14:26] <kiaoss> heyy, install kbuntu
[14:26] <kiaoss> how i install
[14:26] <kiaoss> nvidia driver
[14:27] <kiaoss> and activate it
[14:30] <Jevon> EnvyNG can usually install it for you
[14:31] <dorins> bluetooth worked OOTB here
[14:31] <Bou> kiaoss: Hardware Drivers (in the applications menu)
[14:32] <dorins> actually I can't seem to get rid of it. I disabled the bluetooth service, but it gets restarted when resuming from suspend to ram
[14:33] <BluesKaj> !Envy | Jevon
[14:34] <kiaoss> bou, thnks
[14:34] <BluesKaj> Jevon, in other words , Envy is a last resort
[14:35] <Jevon> I do not know the other ways offhand, although they would be nice to know
[14:38] <necmibilek> BluesKaj, i ve installed kubuntu 9.10 from alternate cd but still same problem at kde splash screen, now at least i can drop to root shell from recovery mode which packet(s) should i try
[14:38] <jimp> ubuntu
[14:38] <BluesKaj> Jevon, if the driver exists in the kernel source module , which should be detected upon install then it will be listed in syatem settings/hardware..that's the first choice , then there are options in the package managewrs to install the right drivers for your HW if you just search in the kubuntu forums for the the proper drivers for your HW.
[14:38] <MrFelix> salve a tutti
[14:39] <BluesKaj> necmibilek, at the prompt type, sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-openchrome
[14:39] <BluesKaj> !it | MrFelix
[14:40] <necmibilek> BluesKaj, need any configuration?
[14:40] <sevdalin> :)
[14:40] <BluesKaj> necmibilek, worry about that after you get to a desktop
[14:41] <necmibilek> BluesKaj, it is already newest version
[14:43] <kiaoss> how i change grub visual style
[14:43] <BluesKaj> necmibilek, still no login page ?
[14:45] <necmibilek> BluesKaj, login page exists, after i login it drops me login page again
[14:48] <BluesKaj> amik, at the prompt , sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ..choose the vesa driver if available , we must find the right one , but it's easier from the desktop so we can search the internet .
[14:48] <BluesKaj> err amik, need some help here
[14:49] <BluesKaj> necmibilek , at the prompt , sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ..choose the vesa driver if available , we must find the right one , but it's easier from the desktop so we can search the internet .
[14:49] <BluesKaj> sry amik , was going to ask if you're familiar with VIA graphics
[14:50] <amik> BluesKaj: sorry, nope, I've dealt with my share of nvidia problems though
[14:50] <BluesKaj> yeah same here
[14:50] <jwx> hi, how do I enable this nepomuk, strigi desktop search? 'failed to initialize, most likely due to an installation problem'.. any recommendations on desktop search?
[14:51] <amik> BluesKaj: I thought livecds just install basic vesa drivers, not the good stuff, at least from what I've seen, no?
[14:52] <BluesKaj> amik, I think they contain the kernel modules and if the HW matches up they are used
[14:54] <necmibilek> well nothing changed & there was no option to choose a vega-driver from prompt. BluesKaj
[14:54] <BluesKaj> not vega , vesa
[14:54] <necmibilek> ok vesa
[14:55] <necmibilek> there was no choice
[14:55] <necmibilek> i mean i wrote the command but nothing produced
[14:58] <amik> necmibilek: maybe try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg'
[15:01] <necmibilek> amik: no result
[15:01] <pierreth> do you know how to logout from kde?
[15:01] <pierreth> I am unable to do so with 9.10
[15:01] <OpenMaster> Can anyone help me? My girlfriend has Kubuntu9.10 and when she returns from a sleep or hibernate state her wifi connection doesn't work. If she reboots the pc the connection runs.
[15:02] <Jevon> which wi-fi program is she using
[15:02] <OpenMaster> the standard program that kubuntu installs
[15:03] <amik> necmibilek: no vesa option in there?
[15:03] <OpenMaster> I think it is Network Manager
[15:03] <pierreth> can I use a command line to do the logout?
[15:03] <necmibilek> amik: there is no option in fact
[15:04] <BluesKaj> necmibilek, we need the exact graphics card , otherwise it's futile ,  lspci | grep VGA
[15:05] <necmibilek> BluesKaj, any  way to learn it?
[15:06] <cidem> hi
[15:06] <BluesKaj> necmibilek, lspci | grep VGA
[15:07] <slow-motion> hi
[15:08] <cidem> I have a problem with watching video from a ttpci-dvb device using kaffeine on karmic - I have audio but no video
[15:09] <cidem> I think I want to try using xshm instead of xv output - where can I change that?
[15:09] <necmibilek> BluesKaj, VGA compatible controller: VIA Tech, Inc. KM400/KN400/P4M800 [S3 UniChrome] (rev 01)
[15:14] <amik> BluesKaj: I just realized, in karmic there is no xorg.conf! things have changed indeed...
[15:15] <amik> BluesKaj: it seems u have to 'Xorg -configure' to create it old-style. not sure how/where settings are if not...
[15:15] <BluesKaj> necmibilek,  sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-via
[15:17] <BluesKaj> amik, in some cases there could be an xorg file, not sure but...
[15:19] <amik> BluesKaj: the changes are probably why the dpkg-reconfigure doesn't do anything (just tried in a vm, and the configuration menu doesn't even show up)
[15:19] <kiaoss> i can't mount vista volume
[15:19] <kiaoss> how can i do
[15:20] <BluesKaj> kiaoss, http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=22093
[15:22] <kiaoss> BluesKaj , how can i delete fstab file?
[15:23] <BluesKaj> kiaoss, don't delete fstab , only edit !
[15:23] <kiaoss> BluesKaj, it's too late :(
[15:24] <kiaoss> i will reinstall kubuntu
[15:24] <cidem> ;)
[15:25] <kiaoss> BluesKaj, thanks for your support
[15:25] <kiaoss> :)
[15:26] <necmibil_> BluesKaj, is it related with my problem? http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=80236
[15:26] <necmibil_> should we try it at least
[15:28] <kiaoss> Is there any Kubuntu Developer
[15:31] <BluesKaj> kiaoss, alt + f2 , kdesudo kate /etc/fstab , see if your fstab is still there
[15:32] <amik> kiaoss: try #kubuntu-devel channel if you're looking for developers
[15:32] <BluesKaj> necmibil_, it might work , I don't know your HW except for the graphics card
[15:34] <necmibil_> BluesKaj, i wanna try it but aptitude couldnt find a packed xf86-video-openchrome
[15:40] <necmibil_> BluesKaj, is it possible to use 9.4's repo to install xserver again... It was ok with 9.4 (:
[15:40] <cidem> necmibil_: have you tried creating a xorg.conf ?
[15:41] <necmibil_> cidem: nope
[15:41] <cidem> necmibil_: I'd start there...
[15:42] <necmibil_> cidem: how should i start then, i m not so good playing with conf files
[15:43] <cidem> necmibil_: first look if you still have the original one .. are there any xorg.conf* files in /etc/X11 ?
[15:44] <necmibil_> what s command to search that file
[15:44] <amik> cidem: necmibil_ is failing off a live cd
[15:44] <cidem> oh ok
[15:44] <cidem> sorry, didn't catch that
[15:45] <necmibil_> amik: i ve installed system from alternate cd
[15:45] <necmibil_> amik: there s no more live cd
[15:45] <bigbrovar> hi guys anyone able to get their laptop multimedia keys to work with amarok on kde?
[15:45] <amik> cidem, necmibil_: I stand corrected... I missed that part, thought u were still with the cd as before
[15:46] <BluesKaj> necmibil_, found this , it has the latest driver , http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg/2009-October/047620.html
[15:46] <necmibil_> cidem: there s no xorg.cong file at /etc/X11
[15:47] <cidem> necmibil_: then I'd try to create one - see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=670645
[15:48] <cidem> necmibil_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[15:49] <cidem> I take it, noone has an idea on my issue? :)
[15:49] <BluesKaj> cidem, we tried that already , let's not go in circles
[15:49] <cidem> alright then
[15:49] <BluesKaj> we need the right driver
[15:50] <BluesKaj> xorg is useless without drivers
[15:51] <Shaxor> Hello, Does anyone know how to rightly setup Filesharing setings?
[15:51] <Shaxor> I can't seem to get them to work right
[15:51] <cidem> BluesKaj: I didn't follow the whole discussion, but judging from the output necmibil_ pasted, it seems to fail to load the vesa driver because of 24-bit depth .. have you tried letting him set 16 bit instead?
[15:52] <necmibil_> cidem: how can i set that
[15:53] <BluesKaj> cidem, be my guest , if you can help , gop for it :)
[15:53] <BluesKaj> err go
[15:53] <BluesKaj> bbl, gonna upgrade my laptop
[15:55] <cidem> necmibil_: sec...
[15:56] <cidem> necmibil_: you should create a file /etc/X11/xorg.conf and write the following in it...
[15:56] <necmibil_> and why i cant see a list when typing dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[15:56] <amik> cidem: I think 'Xorg -configure' auto-generates xorg.conf, which u can then edit
[15:56] <cidem> oh good as well
[15:57] <cidem> (it's actually the first time I use xorg .. only used xfree86 before ;)
[15:57] <amik> but I'm just starting to figure out the changes in the mechanism in karmic...
[15:57] <Shaxor> Hello, Does anyone know how to rightly setup Filesharing setings?
[15:57] <cidem> Shaxor: get in line ;)
[15:58] <Shaxor> lol i am inline xD im waiting
[15:58] <ghostcube> guys the printer applet drives me crazy it keeps crashing at startup is there anything known
[15:59] <cidem> necmibil_: http://pastebin.com/m18849731
[15:59] <cidem> necmibil_: that should be in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[16:00] <cidem> necmibil_: don't really know if it'll work, but i think it's worth a shot
[16:00] <cidem> Shaxor: now, what application do you use?
[16:00] <necmibil_> cidem: i m tryin now
[16:00] <cidem> Shaxor: transmission or what?
[16:01] <Shaxor> isn't that for torrents?
[16:01] <cidem> Shaxor: yes, what do you want to do?
[16:01] <cidem> I read "filesharing", so I thought you were referring to bittorrent
[16:02] <Shaxor> lol Sorry
[16:02] <Shaxor> What i mean is home network filesharing
[16:02] <cidem> Shaxor: ah sorry :)
[16:04] <necmibil_> cidem: there is some syntatic differences like subsections... is it just those few lines coz at xorg.conf.new has lots of SubSections
[16:05] <Shaxor> cidem: I haven't been able to enable to filesharing, when i try to share a folder or acsess the folders on my other computeter on my home network
[16:05] <cidem> necmibil_: hm
[16:06] <necmibil_> ok, i ll install 9.4 again
[16:06] <cidem> necmibil_: probably you'll have to put the DefaultDepth option in a SubSection "Display"
[16:07] <cidem> but ok, reinstalling will probably work, too ;o)
[16:07] <cidem> afk
[16:08] <ghostcube> ho to disable kde printer applet
[16:08] <necmibil_> amik, BluesKaj, cidem thnx for all
[16:09] <BluesKaj> necmibil_, were you able to install the driver?
[16:09] <BluesKaj> <--was away , on my lappy now
[16:10] <necmibil_> BluesKaj, yes i was using 9.4 without a problem
[16:10] <necmibil_> without a driver problem
[16:11] <BluesKaj> ok, good, maybe a netinstall upgrade using the upgrade-manager instead of a clean install will work, because it will use the existing driver
[16:11] <necmibil_> maybe i try upgrade from 9.4 to 9.10 using packager
[16:12] <necmibil_> yep
[16:12] <BluesKaj> necmibil_, exactly
[16:12] <necmibil_> mi ll try it and let u now the result
[16:12] <necmibil_> *know
[16:12] <BluesKaj> necmibil_, do some checking about the graphics driver on karmic first
[16:13] <necmibil_> how=?
[16:14] <Jevon> so why would the little icon in the taskbar say network management is disabled, yet I can get online
[16:14] <BluesKaj> look into karmic forums about the open chrome driver
[16:16] <xh> i've upgraded to karmic and alsa is now broken; how do i fix it?
[16:17] <Matisse> hi
[16:18] <Matisse> Is there something like a list of bugs which occured since Karmic is out?
[16:25] <Shaxor> cidem: I haven't been able to enable to filesharing, when i try to share a folder or acsess the folders on my other computeter on my home network, Asking again
[16:26] <BluesKaj> xh, make sure alsa-base and alsa-utils are installed
[16:26] <xh> BluesKaj: they are, in fact i even reinstalled them just to make sure
[16:26] <BluesKaj> Matisse, check launchpad
[16:27] <BluesKaj> ok xh, check for pulseaudio , your HW might need it
[16:28] <Matisse> BluesKaj, thx
[16:28] <xh> BluesKaj: pulseaudio is also installed; could it be related to the fact that i have both the kubuntu and ubuntu destkops installed?
[16:29] <amik> is there a 'graceful' way to kill plasma-netbook/plasma-desktop when I want to switch between them?
[16:30] <neoandersen> I lost my x enviroment when I upgraded to 9.10, How to recover?
[16:30] <Quintasan> amik: kquitapp plasma-netbook/plasma-desktop
[16:31] <amik> Quintasan: 10x. kquitapp bascially sends an event like a normal application exit button or something similar?
[16:31] <BluesKaj> xh yes, that could be, but first check your soundcard without pulseaudio..I use a pci cmedia card that uses the alsa provided kernel source driver , so for me there's no need for pulseaudio
[16:31] <xh> neoandersen: for renaming the ~/.kde folder worked
[16:31] <Quintasan> Shaxor: do you have kdenetwork-filesharing installed?
[16:32] <xh> BluesKaj: i have an integrated Intel audio; does it need pulse?
[16:32] <Quintasan> amik: AFAIK it asks application to quit, if it's a zombie process it uses SIGKILL, but I can be wrong
[16:32] <neoandersen> but I have kubuntu, ubuntu, ubuntu studio, edubuntu, sugar all together...
[16:32] <Quintasan> neoandersen: .kde stores config files for KDE onl
[16:32] <Quintasan> +y
[16:33] <xh> neoandersen: also i removed my xorg.conf file entirely and then x started working
[16:33] <neoandersen> but I guess the upgrade failed because it appears as 8.04
[16:33] <Shaxor> Quintason: Umm it doesn't come installed by default?
[16:35] <neoandersen> the last time is ocurred I installed kubuntu over ubntu studio then I recore it but now it is not connecitng internet...
[16:35] <BluesKaj> xh, I'm on my laptop atm , which uses intel audio as well , but I haven't tried it without PA...maybe I will
[16:35] <xh> BluesKaj: how to do a sanity check for alsa and pulseaudio?
[16:36] <neoandersen> ae there a way to revert the upgrade to 9.10 back to the 8.04?
[16:36] <brendan`> why would you do that?
[16:36] <neoandersen> to recover the X enviroment
[16:37] <MaartenLx> Hey, every time I start Kubuntu.... and I log on, type my password... it immediatly asks for my KDE Wallet password so it can start the wireless. Any way to hook up the KDE wallet password to my logon account so I don't have to enter it twice?
[16:37] <neoandersen> I have tried aptitude install kubuntu-desktop but I didnt acces internet...
[16:38] <neoandersen> how to access IRC without X environment?
[16:39] <xh> neoandersen: see http://tldp.org/HOWTO/IRC/console.html
[16:40] <BluesKaj> neoandersen, install irssi
[16:40] <BluesKaj> !irssi | neoandersen
[16:40] <xh> neoandersen: e.g. sudo apt-get irssi
[16:41] <Roey> MsMaco:  hola
[16:41] <xh> neoandersen: i meant sudo apt-get install irssi
[16:41] <BluesKaj> !sanity
[16:41] <Laeborg> Kubuntu 9.10 doesn't find my wifi card. (I have a Lenovo S10-2)
[16:41] <Jevon> thats life
[16:41] <BluesKaj> !sanity-check
[16:42] <papy> ciao
[16:43] <Shaxor> Does anyone know how to rightly setup Network filesharing the right way? I tried the Samba guide but It still didn't work, Does anyone else have this problem?
[16:44] <BluesKaj> Shaxor, between windows and linux?
[16:45] <MsMaco> Roey: busy
[16:45] <Shaxor> BluesKaj: yes
[16:45] <imad_> win is best :)
[16:45] <BluesKaj> Shaxor, do you have your windows shares enabled?
[16:46] <Shaxor> BluesKaj I have them enabled
[16:47] <Roey> MsMaco:  k
[16:47] <Tweekay> Bonjour, y aurait-il un français pour m'aider ici svp ?
[16:48] <Tweekay> je need help grave mdr
[16:48] <BluesKaj> Shaxor, does dolphin see your windows pc in places/network?\
[16:48] <BluesKaj> !fr | Tweekay
[16:49] <neoandersen> Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!
[16:49] <Shaxor> yes it sees them but i can't copy/cut files from the windows machine, but before i switched for ubuntu to kubuntu i haven't been able to cut/copy
[16:51] <Roey> hey how do I import my playlists from amarok 1.x to amarok 2.x ?
[16:51] <BluesKaj> Shaxor, ok ,try using the add network folder option, itseems to work better on jaunty and karmic
[16:53] <BluesKaj> Shaxor, you'll need the windows pc IP address username and password
[16:53] <Shaxor> Ahh okay
[16:53] <Shaxor> I was just about to ask
[16:55] <BenPA> help help day 2 ... 1. have Dell laptop 2650 distro update to 9.10 completed no errors went to reboot and stops at starting up and hangs 2. tried to initiate failsafe didnt work 3. went back to previous version starts but hangs shortly after startup 3. burned disk for kubuntu 9.10 will not initiate install process 4. used knoppix disk found partitions were not in order and first disk was not identified with asterisk but was corrected b
[16:55] <BenPA> testdisk 6. now get error 15 upon startup of main disk ... I think grub is corrupted but not sure if it is the new version or old one and not sure how to install from knoppix ... pllleeeasse help
[16:56] <_ULNX64_> check the disk for errors?
[16:57] <_ULNX64_> google error 15
[16:58] <BenPA> ulnx64_ i did both
[16:58] <BluesKaj> BenPA, drop to a TTY prompt , then do a sudo update-grub
[16:59] <BenPA> BluesKaj: how?
[16:59] <BluesKaj> BenPA, ctrl+alt+f1
[16:59] <BenPA> BluesKaj: 1 sec
[17:01] <BenPA> BluesKaj: I am getting GRUB loading, please wait ... Error 15 ... will not let me into a tty prompt
[17:02] <dthacker-lab> Hi, I've saved an incorrect login in  my wallet but I can't find the place to access and delete it.   How do I reach it?
[17:03] <BluesKaj> BenPA, I see you're on linux already, look for a an app iso called super grub cd , it can help restore grub and windows mbr
[17:04] <_ULNX64_> what entry are listed?
[17:05] <BenPA> BluesKaj: I am on my PC not the Laptop
[17:05] <dthacker-lab> ah, found it under system
[17:06] <BenPA> BluesKaj: ok let try that be back latr=er
[17:06] <BenPA> BluesKaj: ok let try that be back later
[17:06] <BluesKaj> yes BenPA , burn the supergrub grub iso to a cd
[17:07] <_ULNX64_> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/grub-error-15-dell-inspiron-530-wubuntu-588232/
[17:08] <BenPA> BluesKaj: funny but just started getting a chromium xml error on this pc when I try to open foxfire
[17:09] <amik> BenPA: I think I get those FF error when I upgrade FF but don't close all FF windows to restart it
[17:09] <dthacker-lab> I put an incorrect password into ublog.   I attempted to change it, but every time I try to send a message, the old username and password pop up.  How do I get ublog to accept a new password?
[17:10] <_ULNX64_> http://stringofthoughts.wordpress.com/2009/05/25/grub-error-15-debianubuntu/
[17:13] <BluesKaj> _ULNX64_, dunno if that works for grub2 which is the default on karmic
[17:13] <BenPA> amik: thanks ... when it rains it pours lol
[17:14] <BluesKaj> BenPA, do you have grub2 installed
[17:14] <BluesKaj> ?
[17:14] <_ULNX64_> http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=45998
[17:14] <dthacker-lab> hmmm I shut down ublog, but I can't find it to restart.   Rebooting and will find process name.   Crude, but effective
[17:15] <BluesKaj> _ULNX64_, instead of just posting urls , use the nicks of those who should see them
[17:17] <BluesKaj> well , time to rake more leaves ...bbl , prolly much later, lotsa leaves :(
[17:21] <DeathMetalDean> is there anyway to have the chinese characters on kubuntu?
[17:21] <dthacker-lab> What's the process name for this ublog app that appears when you first boot up.
[17:21] <nomopofomo> Trying to figure out how to automount an NTFS volume in KDE4, any ideas?
[17:22] <sujith> Any new skype version is available for ubuntu 9.10
[17:23] <Roey> hey anyone here know how to import playlists into amarok 2?
[17:23] <dthacker-lab> nomopofomo: what have you tried so far?
[17:24] <nomopofomo> i poked around in the system settings but couldn't find a certain applet which is probably from the kde 3.5 series
[17:24] <dthacker-lab> Roey: you may have better luck asking in #amarok
[17:25] <Roey> dthacker, so I thought ;)
[17:28] <BenPA> BluesKaj: SuperGrub is telling is giving me an Error 6: Mismatched or corrupt version of stage1/stage2
[17:28] <DeathMetalDean> is there anyway to have the chinese characters on kubuntu?
[17:30] <dthacker-lab> BenPA: BluesKaj  is AFK for several hours
[17:31] <BenPA> dthacker-lab: can you help me with supergrub?
[17:31] <MaartenLx> Lol... here I thought UAC was annoying. Is there any way to prevent you from having to type your admin password every 10 minutes or so when you want to install something or change something? ;)
[17:32] <dthacker-lab> BenPA; sorry no, beyond my expertise
[17:32] <livello> man sudoers?
[17:32] <seb0> ekran kartini takcam ve kernel panec  olacak yahu
[17:34] <BenPA> ok ... can anyone help me with Super Grub giving me an Error 6: Mismatched or corrupt version of stage1/stage2?
[17:34] <apparle> where is xorg.conf
[17:35] <livello> man xorg.conf :)
[17:35] <robin0800> apparle: not there
[17:35] <_ULNX64_> /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[17:35] <_ULNX64_> /usr/share/man/man5/xorg.conf.5.gz
[17:35] <_ULNX64_> /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum
[17:35] <_ULNX64_> /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.roster
[17:35] <FloodBotK2> _ULNX64_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:36] <dthacker-lab> FloodBotK has no sense of humor
[17:36] <adamas> after using my new Kubuntu 9.10 x64 several times, it does not complete loading; "pausing" in the starting kde symbols
[17:36] <adamas> i had to reinstall it
[17:36] <robin0800> _ULNX64_: perhaps not on a karmic clean install
[17:36] <adamas> what could be the problem?
[17:37] <apparle> I have made the file..... 'Option "BusType" "PCI"' needs to be added to get the card working but when I add the line... I ge tblank screen
[17:38] <apparle> When I add the line I just don't see anything
[17:39] <_ULNX64_> adamas try this at terminal sudo apt-get install -f
[17:41] <adamas> _ULNX64_: you mean if i have the same problem with this reinstallation?
[17:41] <_ULNX64_> sometimes apt leaves uninstalled apps i use this command always to 'flush' my installs and upgrades
[17:43] <_ULNX64_> that is after installing via synaptic run sudo apt-get install -f
[17:44] <MissDracula> hello =)
[17:44] <adamas> but this seems to be a generic solution after installing a possible malfunction software, i don't see how it could cause kde could not finish to load
[17:44] <adamas> but i'll try if i have the same problem...
[17:45] <dthacker-lab> Whats the program name for the ublog application that comes up when you first boot up Karmic?   I shut it down, and I can't find it to restart
[17:45] <adamas> thnx
[17:45] <_ULNX64_> Did you install kubuntu from CD/DVD, or via synaptic?
[17:46] <adamas> cdrom
[17:46] <adamas> clean installation
[17:46] <adamas> (formatting the old)
[17:46] <_ULNX64_> hmm
[17:46] <adamas> i used it some times and late it could not finish to load, "hanging" in kde starting symbols
[17:46] <adamas> mouse wokrs
[17:47] <adamas> but i shold reset
[17:47] <Byron> !php
[17:51] <_ULNX64_> when i scroll within dolphin the icons dont seem to refresh? this has gotten better with 4.3.2 relase but is still an issue.
[17:52] <_ULNX64_> this only happens when the scroll wheel is used
[17:52] <_ULNX64_> anybody remeber the command to turn off debugging?
[17:52] <adamas> bye
[17:54] <kids> Installed Kubuntu for the first time been using gnome for about 4 years. I can not seem to get apple movie trialrs to play. I am sure it is something simple I am over lloking any bouddy able to help?
[17:56] <kids> wow slow day today
[17:57] <kids> hello
[17:57] <_ULNX64_> go to synaptic ad type qicktime
[17:58] <kids> did that nothing
[17:58] <kids> I think I have all the codecs installed
[17:59] <robin0800> tomers:
[17:59] <_ULNX64_> install the midibuntu repo
[17:59] <kids> yes
[17:59] <kids> already did
[17:59] <_ULNX64_> one sec
[17:59] <kids> I meant I installed the quicktime files not they are not there sorry
[18:00] <kids> I do not have the dev files installed only the normal packages
[18:00] <_ULNX64_> download the windows essentials package for mplayer
[18:01] <kids> aren't those included in the restricted package?
[18:01] <boomernang> kids - kubuntu-restricted-extras?
[18:01] <_ULNX64_> you could also try installing wine, then go to portable apps and download portable mplayer and vlc
[18:02] <_ULNX64_> yes that to
[18:02] <kids> no then I would just run windows
[18:03] <kids> it says it is installing the shows it bnot installed after it finishes
[18:04] <kids> says it finishes the install in less then 1 sec
[18:04] <_ULNX64_> what do you mean installing the show?
[18:04] <_ULNX64_> what are you running?
[18:05] <kids> I selewct the package kubuntu-restricted to be installed click apply then is say finished in less then one sec and shows the package in the mainscreen again but is shows htat it is not installed
[18:06] <kids> software management
[18:06] <kids> that is what the title bar says
[18:06] <boomernang> kids: have you got the ubuntu-restricted-extras package installed? if so, uninstall it then try install the kubuntu version
[18:07] <kids> ok I used the commandline it seems to be working thatnks
[18:07] <_ULNX64_> are you running kubunt?
[18:07] <kids> yes
[18:07] <_ULNX64_> kewl
[18:08] <_ULNX64_> sudo apt-get install -f [good for failed installs]
[18:11] <kids> do I need to reboot cause the trailers still are not playing
[18:11] <kids> the package manager still shows that kubuntu-restricted-extras and ubuntu-restricted-extras are not installed
[18:12] <kids> installing throughj the cammandline gave no errors
[18:12] <kids> gonna try reboot be back inba few
[18:14] <_ULNX64_> k
[18:14] <effie-jayx> hey all
[18:15] <effie_jayx> hey all I am running kubuntu netbook remix
[18:15] <effie_jayx> I can't seem to be able to resize plasmoids on the newspaper area
[18:15] <effie_jayx> any help would be appreciated :D
[18:20] <BenPA> can anyone out there help me with my grub issue?
[18:20] <Rythan> !ask | BenPA
[18:20] <Air-Op> hi, The netbook remix run without install  shows up as a blank screen on my dell mini 9 .. The virtual consoles don't come up
[18:21] <amik> I'm trying to move a file from dolphin to the desktop folder, and nothing happens. the console (from which plasma-desktop was started) says:
[18:21] <amik> desktop:/freeutilscommon.jar
[18:21] <amik> desktop:/freeutilsmedia.jar
[18:21] <BenPA> ubottu: I already did but BlueK left me
[18:21] <amik> desktop:/freeutilscommon.jar
[18:21] <amik> desktop:/freeutilsmedia.jar
[18:22] <amik> sorry, having a copy/paste issue here as well :-/
[18:22] <amik> the error is: QMetaMethod::invoke: Unable to handle unregistered datatype 'KFileItem'
[18:22] <andromedaM31> Hi!
[18:23] <andromedaM31> need some help regarding USB drive automount in Kubuntu 9.10
[18:23] <BenPA> help ... new install of 9.10 hosed my grub ... found grub2 info and have tried several methods such as supergrub, testdisk etc ,,, nothing has helped now getting Error 15: File not found ... help pls
[18:23] <effie_jayx> can plasmoid on the netbook remix be resized? if so how? :S
[18:26] <cjrondon66> channel the ubuntu.es???
[18:27] <amik> !es | cjrondon66
[18:27] <francisco_> is there someone here??
[18:27] <cjrondon66> gracias
[18:27] <cjrondon66> thanks
[18:28] <kids> un installed both ubuntu-restricted and kubuntu-restircted then reinstalled kubuntu-restircted and nothing
[18:28] <raavan> only useful browser which looks great on kubuntu is chromium
[18:29] <kids> chromium is the best browser
[18:29] <puchu> hallo
[18:29] <puchu> how can i install the nvidia drivers?
[18:29] <puchu> and use them?
[18:29] <raavan> kids, where did you get yous from
[18:29] <puchu> i installed the bin driver
[18:29] <puchu> but its eems it isnt initalized
[18:30] <kids> chomium?
[18:30] <raavan> yes chromium
[18:31] <kids> from the launchpad ppa
[18:31] <raavan> which one do you have? version?
[18:31] <mime_> hello everyone; i use to hear music from my laptop and via jack another two more  soobwofers, but upgrading into karmik has turn of mu external woffers interpreting as a headphone my jack, and only can hear or the laptoc ones, or the two others, but not both again... any idea? all levels are right, looked in alsa trough console, i think is a software problem. tahnk you
[18:31] <raavan> 4.0.223.11 or later?
[18:31] <kids> https://launchpad.net/~chromium-daily/+archive/ppa
[18:32] <kids> 4.0.226.0
[18:33] <kids> anymore ideas on my apple movie trailer problem?
[18:35] <raavan> Hey then I've to change repo.. I was getting it from super os
[18:35] <jmg> Hello everyone, i'm trying to boot kubuntu 9.10 but it doesńt give me display, it's resolution is out of erach for my display. i tried the xrandr -s 1280x1024 trough the terminal but it giveś me Can't open display.
[18:35] <jmg> Any suggestions?
[18:35] <_ULNX64_> one min brb
[18:36] <kids> me or jmg
[18:36] <jmg> I use unetbooting so i couldn"t find any boot or grub on the usb stick
[18:36] <kids> I gotta go thanks for the help anyway
[18:37] <jmg> Any one wanna help?
[18:37] <puchu> hi
[18:37] <puchu> hown can i start the Hardware Drivers Manager from command line?
[18:38] <DoubleD84> so I've been trying to get cdemu going but ran into an issue with apt installing libmirage2  .. It throws an error about apt trying to overwrite some file. Is there a way to clean out the cache?
[18:38] <raavan> which hardware?
[18:38] <puchu> i wanna activate the nvidia driver
[18:39] <raavan> try sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[18:39] <jmg> Should i get the nvidea driver?
[18:40] <jmg> I've got a nvidea card
[18:40] <pucko-> jmg, it is probably easiest just to edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[18:40] <puchu> raavan its installed but its doesnt seem to get used by the xorg-server
[18:40] <pucko-> jmg, yes you most likely want the nvidia driver
[18:40] <mime_> hello everyone; i use to hear music from my laptop and via jack another two more  soobwofers, but upgrading into karmik has turn of mu external woffers interpreting as a headphone my jack, and only can hear or the laptoc ones, or the two others, but not both again... any idea? all levels are right, looked in alsa trough console, i think is a software problem. tahnk you
[18:41] <jmg> I tried that, but there's no such file or directory, and kwrite also doesnẗ work
[18:41] <raavan> tried nvidia-xconfig
[18:41] <jmg> Ok I'll try the nvidea driver
[18:42] <effie_jayx> anyone here using netbook remix... can plasmoids on the newspaper plasma be resized
[18:42] <raavan> when done with the nvidia-xconfig you'll have to restart x
[18:47] <jmg> Doesn't my pc have to reboot when installing nvidia driver? Iḿ running from usb stick with unetbootin
[18:48] <Rythan> jmg: No, only X needs to be restarted
[18:48] <jmg> I'm only getting errors
[18:48] <jmg> Ok so how do i restart x
[18:48] <jmg> sudo startx?
[18:49] <pucko-> jmg, usually you do sudo invoke-rc.d kdm restart
[18:49] <jmg> Wait, i'm not connected trough cable, need to plug it in ofcourse
[18:50] <jmg> Normally i use wifi
[18:50] <jmg> :-P
[18:50]  * Vlado9A3CY is away: Gone away for now
[18:50] <kavurt> hi guys. I have two kubuntu computers. when i plug in a pen drive, one of them mounts it automatically, the other doesn't. And the one which automatically mounts, doesn't allow me to unmount it using GUI. I can unmount using konsole. The one doesn't mount automatically allows to unmount using GUI. what should I do? why do they behave differently?
[18:52] <jmg> I'm a newbee to linux but you probarly figured that out
[18:54]  * Vlado9A3CY is back.
[18:56] <jmg> How can i change xorg.conf?
[18:57] <jmg> kwrite is not a command it sayś?
[18:57] <Vlado9A3CY> try kate
[18:59] <_Altaira_> hi can somebody help me troubleshoot my problem: I've just upgraded from intrepid to karmic but now I'm on an infinite loop on the login screen
[19:00] <pucko-> infinite loop?
[19:00] <_Altaira_> pucko-: yup enter user credentials - go back the login screen
[19:01] <pucko-> so you can't even login?
[19:01] <neoandersen_> X environment doesn't start after upgrade to 9.10 Help
[19:01] <_Altaira_> pucko-: I can't using GUI but I can do so if a switch to a text terminal
[19:03] <Jevon> how does one stop the desktop from showing previews of folder contents while you aare trying to move them
[19:04] <pucko-> _Altaira_: does kdm.log och Xorg.log say anything?
[19:05] <_Altaira_> pucko-: where can I find kdm.log?
[19:05] <pucko-> in /var/log/
[19:06] <_Altaira_> pucko-: ok lemme se
[19:07] <ward> Hello since upgrading to 9.10 I get no sound anymore, somebody had this ?
[19:08] <nomopofomo> this is terrible! :( i can't figure out how to install this stupid plasmoid... i can make it fine... installs fine... but how do i use it?
[19:08] <pucko-> ward, yeah I had that, but it turned out the output-jacks had been shuffled
[19:08] <ward> pucko-: how did you fixed it ?
[19:09] <jmg> I can't connct to x server when i do sudo kate xorg.conf
[19:10] <Peace-> jmg: kdesudo kate
[19:10] <_Altaira_> pucko-: I've found some warnings and one error: error setting MTRR
[19:10] <jmg> Man, the only ubuntu that worked flawless was 8.04, all the others didn't give me audio :-(
[19:10] <pucko-> ward, actually, I just switched the audio cables. but you can fix it by using a kernel option for your sound driver (at least with intel cards).
[19:11] <Jevon> I liked 8.04
[19:11] <jmg> With kdesudo kate i still get cannot connect to X server
[19:12] <jmg> I've got maudio delta cards for my audio
[19:13] <pucko-> _Altaira_: nothing in kdm.log?
[19:13] <jmg> I can't use 8.04 forever
[19:14] <_Altaira_> pucko-: I found some warnings and one error: error setting MTRR
[19:15] <pucko-> _Altaira_: what graphic card?
[19:16] <_Altaira_> pucko-: let me check
[19:17] <_Altaira_> pucko-: VIA Unichrome
[19:18] <jmg> I've got a nvidia geforce 7050 onboard video card, asrock motherboard
[19:18] <pucko-> jmg, but you're not in X, right? edit it with nano or someting from the command line. look up in the docs and make sure you put in the right resolution and video driver
[19:18] <ward> pucko-: switching the audio cables wont work here
[19:19] <jmg> No there are alot of them
[19:19] <pucko-> ward, check if the sound modules are loaded. if not it is probably something with alsa.
[19:19] <ward> pucko-: how can I check that?
[19:19] <jmg> The sound modules are loaded, the controles are there, but there's no sound
[19:20] <jmg> In ubuntu 8.04 everythin worked wright away.
[19:20] <pucko-> _Altaira_: mtrr is probably not your problem there, but I don't think I can help more than that.
[19:20] <_Altaira_> pucko-: thank you very much :)
[19:21] <pucko-> ward, lsmod|grep snd
[19:21] <pucko-> _Altaira_: it's strange because it seems X actually starts for you, but it crashes somewhere else. do some troubleshooting by yourself, does X start from console?
[19:22] <pucko-> jmg, there are alot of what?
[19:22] <jmg> I/O's
[19:23] <_Altaira_> pucko-: is starx the command to check that?
[19:23] <jmg> 20 in and outputs, i use it for my analog studio
[19:23] <pucko-> _Altaira_: that works. could also be useful to test for example the vesa driver and se if that works
[19:24] <jmg> Iḿ talking abbout the maudio delta's
[19:24] <pucko-> oh I see
[19:24] <amik> is it normal for disk i/o to make the desktop unresponsive?
[19:25] <pucko-> amik, yes, pretty much..
[19:25] <jmg> Maybe i should drag my desktop to a friend with a big monitor, change the resolution an drag it back home. This is like searching for a needle in a haystack for me.
[19:26] <jmg> Iḿ a complete noob you know
[19:26] <kavurt> hi guys. I have two kubuntu computers. when i plug in a pen drive, one of them mounts it automatically, the other doesn't. And the one which automatically mounts, doesn't allow me to unmount it using GUI. I can unmount using konsole. The one doesn't mount automatically, allows to unmount it using GUI. what should I do? why do they behave differently?
[19:26] <amik> pucko-: is that a linux thing? kde thing? debian thing? I don't remember having it this bad on windows...
[19:28] <amik> pucko-: considering the desktop interaction doesn't need i/o, it's got 4g of ram it's using with room to spare, and 4 cores to use - why can't it keep doing it's thing just because the disk is in use?
[19:29] <pucko-> jmg, yes. no idea really? but you can probably narrow it down to a kernel module problems or an alsa problem.
[19:30] <pucko-> amik, not really an inherent linux problem. you can often remedy it in different ways
[19:31] <amik> pucko-: any way to remedy it in kubuntu?
[19:31] <_Altaira_> pucko-: KDE's splash screen display process is suddenly interrupted to display login screen
[19:32] <pucko-> amik, basically, the easiest you can do is either jack up the proirity of the x server or lower the priority of the copy/move command
[19:32] <pucko-> _Altaira_: log in from console "sudo service kdm stop" and try to troubleshoot a bit. would be my suggestion
[19:33] <_Altaira_> pucko-: ok thank you very much :)
[19:33] <amik> pucko-: ok, I'll try it. but I still don't understand why it should happen in the first place, if the desktop interaction does not require any disk access itself
[19:35] <pucko-> amik, it probably shouldn't be that noticable on a machine like that. i agree. but the problem isn't the memory or the cpu really. but disk io.
[19:35] <jmg> Ok i managed to get something on my screen with sudo nano etc/X11/xorg.conf
[19:36] <nookie^> jmg: sometimes when having probs with screens and stuff and u cant get any pic you can try to run.. sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[19:37] <jmg> At the bottom it says g get help o write out r readfile y prev page k cut text c cur pos
[19:37] <amik> pucko-: the io is the trigger, but not the problem. there shouldn't be any contention between and io-heavy task and a cpu/ram light (or heavy) task - they're not competing for any resources... it sounds like a scheduler/interrupt handler bug or something (I don't know how io really works here)
[19:37] <jmg> What's next?
[19:37] <pucko-> amik, yeah, I agree
[19:38] <jmg> When i pres r nothings happening
[19:39] <jmg> What do i need to type?
[19:43] <jmg> Nothing's happening any more, i can't leave this screen or do anything
[19:43] <pucko-> jmg, if fixing that audio problem you have nothing to do in xorg.conf. I think I got something confused :-)
[19:43] <Zenexer> Is it possible to delete plasma activities?
[19:43] <BluesKaj> jmg , type ctrl + o to save the changes, then ctrl +x to exit
[19:43] <Zenexer> Sweet
[19:44] <Zenexer> I joined just in time for the netsplit spam
[19:44] <jmg> pucko, audio isn"t my first concern, getting a desktop is wright now
[19:44] <jmg> Sorry for getting you confused
[19:45] <BluesKaj> jmg, did you see my post ?
[19:45] <jmg> ctrl aha thanks
[19:45] <jmg> thanks BluesKaj
[19:46] <tristan_> hi all
[19:46] <tristan_> I have a problem with Karmic : I cannot get multisession to work
[19:47] <tristan_> We have two accounts but it is impossible to be both logged
[19:47] <BluesKaj> we all better wait til this netsplit is finished
[19:47] <Zenexer> Sorry for the repeat, but just in case it got lost in the netsplit: is it possible to delete plasma activities as of Karmic?
[19:48] <Zenexer> With the default version of KDE, that is; no beta stuff, nothing special.
[19:48] <jmg> I tried writeout, but i get error writing etc/X11/xorg.conf: No such file or directory
[19:49] <tristan_> etc/X11/xorg.conf or /etc/X11/xorg.conf...?
[19:49] <Zenexer> Make sure you have the leading slash
[19:49] <BluesKaj> jmg, the file is /etc/X11/xorg.conf , make sure you have that first /
[19:49] <Zenexer> Otherwise, you're working with a relative directory
[19:49] <Zenexer> Which, more likely than not, doesn't exist.
[19:50] <BluesKaj> unless it's already been created
[19:50] <jmg> ok thanks BluesKaj, ofcourse, the root directory
[19:51] <_ULNX64_> i forgot the command to disable kde debuggin
[19:52] <tristan_> anyone has problem with multisession on Karmic?
[19:52] <tristan_> I cannot use to 2 accounts on the same computer
[19:53] <jmg> BluesKAj, i got something. Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "Device0" Monitor "Monitor0" DefaultDepth 24 Subsection "Display" Detph 24 Endsubsection EndSection
[19:53] <jmg> What's next?
[19:53] <jmg> I see no resolutions or something
[19:53] <enduser000> hello, I'm trying to use 2 monitors in karmic and only getting a black screen with the x pointer on in on the second one
[19:54] <enduser000> I'm using an nvidia 8400GS M with nvidia settings and a 190 driver from nvidia.com
[19:54] <enduser000> can anyone help?
[19:54] <asraniel> hi there. is the file selector dialog in openoffice very slow for anybody else?
[19:54] <enduser000> asraniel: mine seems to be fine
[19:55] <asraniel> enduser000: thanks. ok, it does not happen all the time. but at least i know it's not a widespread problem
[19:55] <enduser000> asraniel: np, maybe it's the device you're getting it off of.. ?
[19:56] <enduser000> has anyone had troubles with separate x screens in karmic with nvidia cards? I am now : (
[19:58] <Zenexer> In the zoomed out view of all plasma activities, none of the activities have a remove button.  Thus, I cannot remove activities.  Is there a way around this bug/misconfiguration/stupidity-on-my-part?
[19:58] <Zenexer> There's no add widgets button, either
[19:58] <Zenexer> Just settings and zoom in
[19:59] <Zenexer> Alt + D, Alt + R doesn't work, either
[20:00] <dthacker> Hello.  I'm running Karmic.  I shut down the ublog program to try and solve an authentication problem with Twitter.  I can't locate the program to restart it.  Where is ublog on the menus?
[20:01] <jmg> Iḿ trying to change xorg.conf but i don't know how, Anyone can help me?
[20:02] <dorins> Hi *. I've disabled bluetooth in /etc/rcX.d but it gets restarted when resuming from suspend. Anyone know a way arround this?
[20:03] <Zenexer> dthacker, do you mean the ublog thing that appears on the desktop?
[20:03] <Zenexer> Below the desktop folder?
[20:03] <dthacker> Zenexer: that's the one!
[20:03] <tristan_> jmg, I can try
[20:04] <Zenexer> That's actually a widget.  Click on the orange thinger in the upper-right corner of the screen
[20:04] <Zenexer> Then click Add Widget...
[20:04] <Zenexer> Drag-drop the ublog widget to the desktop
[20:05] <dthacker> Zenexer: thanks.  I'm in another room from the machine right now.  Going to try it.
[20:07] <_ULNX64_> find out the specs to your montior and video card first
[20:08] <_ULNX64_> refresh rate, freqs, suported reulotions, videocard chipset, memory etc..... then consider it, unless your just going ti use vesa
[20:10] <_Altaira_> guys I need help troubleshooting: I've just updated to karmic from intrepid. Now, when KDE's splash screen is being displayed the operation is interrupted to show login screen. After I enter user credentials and the desktop is being displayed the operation is interrupted and the system goes back to login screen.
[20:11] <jmg> tristan, ie got a wrong default display resolution my monitor can't handle
[20:12] <_ULNX64_> Altaira try sudo apt-get install -f
[20:12] <_ULNX64_> from the command line
[20:13] <tristan_> jmg question miht be noob but did you try to have the correct resolution using the systel properties
[20:13] <dthacker-lab> Zenexer: I found the correct widget.  Thanks !
[20:14] <jmg> I've tried editing with nano xorg.conf but i don't see resolutions to edit, i can't sudo kdesudo nvidia-settings because x is already running, i've been trying to boot 9.10 for 4 hours and i'm starting to think of installing window$ again because ubuntu doesn't work
[20:15] <jmg> Altough i don't like microsoft ar all
[20:16] <jochen_> test
[20:16] <tristan_> jmg: did you try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg"
[20:17] <_ULNX64_> run the x confg tool form the prompt and reconfigure it
[20:18] <jmg> tristan: no i did not, but there's nothing happening
[20:18] <tristan_> jmg: you should try this
[20:20] <jmg> x conf x confg tool ................ x: command not found
[20:21] <tristan_> jmg : are you sure x-ser-xorg is installed?
[20:21] <tristan_> x-server-xorg sorry
[20:21] <Zenexer> gvim
[20:21] <Zenexer> Oops
[20:21] <xh> hi! after upgrading to karmic i get an apt-get error while trying to install `kdelibs5-dev`; i did use the karmik beta repos but now they are off; how can this be fixed? here is my sources.list: http://paste.ubuntu.com/306966/
[20:23] <xh> ..the error apt-get throws is `Depends: automoc..libqt4-dev but it is not going to be installed`
[20:23] <jmg> I don't know tristan, i know i can switch to the shell with ctrl alt F1
[20:25] <jmg> The shell gives me a cursor at the top of the screen and if i wan't to see anything i'm doing i need to crtl alt F7 and then F1 to see anything
[20:25] <enduser000> does anyone know why I can't do 2 monitors? should I be using something other than nvidia-settings and xorg.conf?
[20:26] <jmg> Maybe kubuntu 9.10 isn't for humanbeings with a 1280X1024 monitor and not a lot of linux experience
[20:26] <isutruk> amik & BluesKaj (i was necmibil_ if u remember) i ve upgraded from 9.4 and now there s 2 case
[20:27] <jmg> Weeep
[20:27] <jmg> :-(
[20:27] <enduser000> jmg: have you tried gnome? I'm having video problems in kubuntu 9.10 now but in ubuntu 9.10 it works fine
[20:28] <isutruk> @grub list if i open 2.6.28-11 i can open system without problem but when i want to use 2.6.31-14 same problem exists
[20:28] <jmg> I liked the plasma dahboard on 9.04, but if that solves the problem i'm fine with gnome
[20:28] <jmg> I'll try that
[20:28] <enduser000> jmg: good luck
[20:29] <ahmed> what is the command to install totem codecs
[20:29] <ahmed> ?>
[20:29] <jmg> Thanks for the great help everyone, i really appreciate it!:-)
[20:29] <enduser000> does anyone know why the text is so alrge in kubuntu? if you do font-size: small in css it looks like font-size: large
[20:32] <kebomix> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[20:32] <kebomix> that's it
[20:32] <Vlado9A3CY> just for info... I have fresh, one day old kubuntu 9.10 installation, and for now it all works fine...
[20:32] <guitar431> hi i am trying to install 9.10 with cd rom but at the section with drive format there is no drive although there is a drive connected to the computer any hints solving that problem?
[20:32] <kebomix> Valdo9A3CY: yeah :D :D
[20:33] <kebomix> guitar431: how many primary partitions do u have ?
[20:33] <Vlado9A3CY> only problem I'm trying to solve now is usb stick for broadband mobile internet connection
[20:34] <kebomix> Valdo93ACY: there is a tuto. for it , just google
[20:34] <jmg> I'm downloading ubuntu right now
[20:34] <enduser000> does anyone know why I get a black screen when doing 2 monitors? I get the x cursor as well
[20:34] <kebomix> enduser000: yeah it is famous problem , google
[20:35] <Vlado9A3CY> kebomix: don't worry... I've got lots of experiences with googling :D
[20:35] <kebomix> okay :D
[20:36] <enduser000> why is the text so large in konqueror? it seems to make websites look odd (those are the tow problems I'm having ;D)
[20:37] <enduser000> two*
[20:37] <_Altaira_> _uLNX64_: I get 0 upgrade 0 news installed 0 to remove 0 not upgraded
[20:37] <kebomix> enduser000:the browser it self is stupid , the first thing i do after installation is to downlaod firefox
[20:38] <_ULNX64_> was this the kde hanging while boot
[20:38] <enduser000> kebomix: I did but I want to support multiple browsers for a site I'm working on..  it seems like an odd default to have
[20:38] <enduser000> anyways thanks for the tips, I'll look into the video stuff later
[20:41] <_Altaira_> _ulnx64-: infinite loop on login screen
[20:41] <stka> I would like to switch from kdm to gdm on kubuntu 9.10 to user my Fingerprintscanner on my thinkpad. With older versions there were no problem, but now when I restart the gdm-2.20 the x-server crashes and kdm ist starting. With gdm ther is no way to configure the gdm anymore. Is this a known bug or did I do something wrong
[20:41] <stefanjrklb> hello :)
[20:42] <stefanjrklb> I am new in things connected with Linux :) Especially Kubuntu :)
[20:42] <stefanjrklb> That is why i have question
[20:43] <replman> Hi! After upgrading to the newest kubuntu version my mysql-server doesn't startup. When running sudo mysqld i get following output: http://pastebin.com/d52b8d931
[20:43] <stefanjrklb> Can anybody help me ?? :)
[20:43] <tristan_> stefanjrklb: ask your question...
[20:43] <tristan_> if someone knows he will pick it up and answer
[20:44] <stefanjrklb> just a moment :)
[20:44] <kebomix> stefanjrklb: seems along question :P
[20:45] <ngirard> Hi all. I've just discovered that something is regularly replacing the contents of my /etc/resolv.conf ... it drives me nuts ! What could it be ? I'm using kubuntu jaunty
[20:46] <stefanjrklb> Why when I want to listen my music from my windows partition
[20:46] <stefanjrklb> i doesn't start ??
[20:46] <slow-motion> re
[20:46] <tristan_> !medibuntu
[20:46] <stefanjrklb> I mount this partition in this dolphin
[20:47] <stefanjrklb> when I use amorak or audacious it simply doesn't start
[20:49] <tristan_> stefanjrklb: I suppose it is mp3 files. Did amarok proposed to install some restricted packages? MP3 cannot be played by ubuntu out of the box for legal reason. you should try to see medibuntu
[20:49] <tristan_> !medibutun
[20:49] <tristan_> !medibuntu
[20:51] <dthacker-lab> what's the minimum required memory for 9.10?  I'm getting crash after crash with 512MB
[20:52] <xh> could someone please post a standard sources.list for kubuntu 9.10? e.g. on pastebin.com?
[20:52] <stefanjrklb> but tell me when I install two days ago ubuntu the newest one
[20:52] <stefanjrklb> everything was ok :)
[20:54] <rohan> is there some bug in kubuntu 9.10 with custom DNS not being used? i set DNS to 141.1.1.1 in my router, it doesn't use it, but when i set it in my resolv.conf, it works.
[20:55] <ceu> hi
[20:56] <dthacker-lab> rohan:  /etc/resolv.conf is the place.  Kubuntu does not know what is set your router.
[20:57] <ionas> buna
[20:57] <imad_> visit this site http://english.truthway.tv/
[20:57] <xh> rohan: in ubuntu set the default gateway to your router and use DHCP and you should be fine; you could use for example xnetconfig to do this visually
[20:59] <rohan> dthacker-lab: it does, if i use 192.168.1.1 as my DNS server.
[20:59] <xh> rohan: ie. i meant xnetcardconfig..
[20:59] <rohan> xh: that's what i am doing right now
[20:59] <rohan> and dns is failing miserably
[21:00] <rohan> the problem is like this -> by default, resolv.conf has 192.168.1.1, which fails at all sites. but 192.168.1.1 my router, actually uses dns server say X. if i put X manually in resolv.conf, it works perfectly.
[21:00] <MaartenLx> is it me, or can't I find a "snap to grid" option anywhere for desktop icons?
[21:00] <xh> rohan: it means dns is not set up properly in your router; open the web admin and use what your isp told you to use, or try opendns
[21:01] <dthacker-lab> rohan: that is the expected behavior.   Your router probably does not lookup DNS.  It depends on the DNS servers from your ISP
[21:01] <rohan> dthacker-lab: no, i have set my router to forcibly use the DNS i provide.
[21:02] <rohan> xh: this same setup works without hitch in ubuntu 8.04 and windows
[21:02] <jmg> Well i just downloaded and put ubuntu on my pendrive with unetbootin and.....................................My monitor says.................................Input signal out of range, again.
[21:02] <Dragnslcr> rohan- unless your router is acting as a DNS server, you don't put its IP address in resolv.conf
[21:03] <rohan> Dragnslcr: my router is.
[21:03] <dthacker-lab> rohan: kubuntu will not know what your router is supposed to use.  It must be told in one of two ways.  1) Use DHCP and have router send down DNS 2) manually set /etc/resolv.conf
[21:03] <xh> rohan: you could actually try setting the opendns server right on your ubuntu box, just to diagnose the problem
[21:03] <rohan> Dragnslcr: as i said, the same setup works fine at other places.
[21:03] <jmg> Ubuntu nor Kubuntu is for humanbeings with 1280x1024 monitor and very little linux knowlage i gues
[21:03] <Dragnslcr> rohan- when you specify DNS servers in your router, that most likely means that those are the addresses the router should send back to DHCP clients
[21:03] <rohan> dthacker-lab: kubuntu is knowing, because in resolv.conf, i have put 192.168.1.1
[21:04] <rohan> xh: that's exactly what i am doing.. the above mentioned X were opendns servers
[21:04] <dthacker-lab> rohan: Is there a DNS server at 192.168.1.1? Or just a router?
[21:04] <rohan> dthacker-lab: router, which is also acting like a dns server.
[21:04] <jmg> Maybe Fedora wil work, thanks for al your help people :-)
[21:04] <imad_> no
[21:04] <jmg> Bye now
[21:05] <dthacker-lab> rohan:  are you sure your router serves DNS?
[21:05] <rohan> dthacker-lab: yes.
[21:05] <rohan> most adsl routers do.
[21:05] <rohan> also, as i said, this setup is working elsewhere.
[21:06] <dthacker-lab> rohan: what happens when you query your router with dig?
[21:07] <rohan> http://pastebin.com/d70911984
[21:08] <dthacker-lab> hmmmm
[21:08] <rohan> i didn't understand that.. does it mean it serves DNS?
[21:09] <rohan> i think this was a bug introduced in 9.10
[21:09] <dthacker-lab> rohan: resaearching
[21:10] <rohan> thanks, dthacker-lab
[21:13] <dthacker-lab> rohan: run " dig@192.168.1.1  www.bluestrain.net"   and see if your adsl device can look up my domain.
[21:14] <dthacker-lab> rohan: sorry, leave a space between dig and the @ sign
[21:15] <rohan_> dthacker-lab: i am sorry, net was down for a moment..can you please re-paste
[21:16] <dthacker-lab> rohan: do a lookup of my domain like this:   "dig @192.168.1.1 www.bluestrain.net"   That will tell you if your ADSL is working or not.
[21:16] <BlakHat_> hi guyz, im have a problem with the new kubuntu 9.10 trying to mount an nfs share. i installed portmap and nfs-common, but wen i try to mount the share, i get an error saying "special device 10.0.0.5:/mnt/share does not exist. i also noticed something strange, /etc/init.d/nfs-common does not exist, so i cannot start/restart the service. i tried to reinstall it with the same result. is it correct that the file is missing, cause i see t
[21:16] <BlakHat_> utorials refering to it, and also does anyone know how i can fix tha nfs problem?
[21:17] <rohan> dthacker-lab: yes it's working http://pastebin.com/m1df508dd
[21:19] <dthacker-lab> rohan:  you're not seeing my domain.   It should look like this: http://pastebin.com/m1ec2c4e2
[21:20] <dthacker-lab> rohan:  you should see pairnic's servers as authoritative for bluestrain.net
[21:20] <rohan> dthacker-lab: our answer section matches. i have no authority section
[21:21] <rohan> (when running the command on your domain)
[21:21] <dthacker-lab> shrugs
[21:21] <rohan> dthacker-lab: no more ideas? :(
[21:22] <dthacker-lab> rohan:  Can you run dig against another DNS server?
[21:23] <dthacker-lab> rohan:  I have the same results on my internal server and my ISP's servers.
[21:24] <rohan> dthacker-lab: http://pastebin.com/d4324a122 output of running on a dns server 4.2.2.2
[21:25] <BenPA> help day 2 ... still no resolve to getting 9.10 running ... grub is still hosed .... have tried many things even went to grub irc no help
[21:25] <dthacker-lab> rohan: is that external?  Can I hit that DNS server?
[21:25] <rohan> yes
[21:25] <rohan> 4.2.2.2 is a public dns server
[21:27] <dthacker-lab> rohan: dig  my domain from there.   Your answer will be different that 192.168.1.1.  Which means 192.168.1.1 is not working properly IMO
[21:28] <rohan> dig @4.2.2.2 www.bluestrain.net gives me ANSWER: 0
[21:30] <LMJ> Hi
[21:31] <BenPA> can anyone help me get to a live console using knoppix to update my kubuntu grub?
[21:31] <dthacker-lab> rohan: http://pastebin.com/m2c3d62f4
[21:31] <rohan> it's a reported problem - https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/458893
[21:33] <dthacker-lab> rohan:  yep, and I'm on mythbuntu 9.04.
[21:33] <dthacker-lab> ok.    you can confirm the bug.
[21:34] <LMJ> Hi
[21:34] <LMJ> I would like to know what to install to share desktop via empathy when I run Kubuntu ?
[21:35] <DoubleD84> I needed to add a couple daemons to boot on startup. So i made a symlink in /etc/init.d to the file than used update-rc.d <file> defaults
[21:35] <DoubleD84> is that the right method of doing this?
[21:35] <BenPA> has anyone else had trouble with grub and grub2 when upgrading to 9.10?
[21:37] <_nix_> BenPA: I had trouble getting used to grub2 configruation. Otherwise it works fine.
[21:38] <Sentynel> I'm having some problems with Amarok after updating Kubuntu to 9.10 - intermittently, I'm getting this error trying to start it: "amarok: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libamaroklib.so.1: undefined symbol: _ZTIN6TagLib3MP44FileE" Some mixture of reinstalling Amarok/taglib usually fixes it temporarily, but then it comes back.
[21:38] <BenPA> _nix_ : how did you resolve it?
[21:40] <_nix_> BenPA: what do you mean?
[21:41] <BenPA> _nix_: I cannot get past the initial boot into the new version .... did you have same problem?
[21:42] <BenPA> _nix_: I cannot even get the new kubuntu disk to run
[21:42] <_nix_> BenPA: Nope, works fine for me.
[21:43] <BenPA> _nix_: I am using knoppix disk to run now so I know it's not necessarily a hardware issue
[21:44] <_nix_> BenPA: do you recieve some message about what may be happening?
[21:46] <BenPA> _nix_: If I modify the previous version by editing it ... it drops me into a read-only shell
[21:47] <BenPA> _nix_: so I cannot run apt-get or modify any files if need be
[21:47] <_nix_> BenPA: erm.. what happens when you boot your computer from the kubuntu 9.10 cd?
[21:48] <_nix_> BenPA: fyi, the cd does not use grub2.
[21:48] <BenPA> _nix_: first of all I get to the menu and choose install options and it does nothing
[21:50] <BenPA> _nix_: ok so any idea why it does not run?
[21:51] <BenPA> _nix_: this knoppix disk I'm using works fine
[21:51] <_nix_> BenPA: there can be many reasons ranging from unsupported hardware in the kernel to an improperly written cd.
[21:52] <_nix_> BenPA: Can you test the disk on some other computer? or can you select the option to check cd integrity on the menu that is presented to you?
[21:52] <BenPA> _nix_: I even burned  the 904 version (does not work) and supergrub (which does)
[21:53] <BenPA> _nix_: hold a sec
[21:54] <localnnuser__> is there any plasmoid or app for changin the background automaticaly using images from the web?
[21:56] <BenPA> _nix_: works fine on my PC ... starts right away copying files
[21:57] <tominglis> i can only run kgpg as root - does anyone know what could be wrong?
[21:59] <_nix_> BenPA: Looks like a hardware to me. I'm not sure what could be wrong.
[22:00] <_nix_> BenPA: hardware issue*
[22:00] <BenPA> _nix_: no way . I am talking to you using a knoppix disk running in the machine now
[22:01] <BenPA> _nix_: no way . I also ran supergrub earlier on this machine too
[22:02] <_nix_> BenPA: I'm not sure what could be wrong. :)
[22:03] <BenPA> _nix_: I understand .... this is driving me to drink
[22:04] <Roey> hey all, I get this error when I try to upload photos to Facebook (it launches a Java app):  http://pastebin.com/m77a93db9  -- I installed sun-java6-jre and sun-java6-plugin, then tried thsi under both Chromium-browser and firefox-3.5
[22:04] <BenPA> _nix_: the only thing I didnt try was the chainloader method but not sure where it is listed
[22:04] <Roey> what's this abot?
[22:04] <jeroen_> Hey, does somebody have experience with Xorg.conf?
[22:05] <jeroen_> My screens get disabled whenever I try to start X.   it says "Output DFP1 disable succes"  which i dont want :P
[22:05] <oscar__> can anyone help please? My packet transfer seems to be unstable.
[22:06] <imad_> http://english.truthway.tv/
[22:09] <The_Journey_> how do I add files to my desktop? So I can open them easily
[22:09] <localnnuser__> jeroen_: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[22:10] <jeroen_> localnnuser__: I tried but the thing is im trying to setup dual-head with 2 exact same monitors
[22:11] <slow-motion> n8
[22:12] <The_Journey_> how do I add files to my desktop? So I can open them easily? Adding them to ~/Desktop doesn't make them appear on my desktop
[22:13] <Sentynel> The_Journey_: You need to add the folder view widget and set it to display the desktop folder.
[22:15] <oscar__> hello, I need to stop grub from running on boot up as i need to access a recovery partition
[22:15] <oscar__> is there anyway to stop grub from loading on startup?
[22:15] <The_Journey_> Sentynel, the widget just displays folders in a rectangle
[22:15] <Dragnslcr> I'm on the 9.10 installer, and it's trying to combine sda and sdb into a RAID mirror, even though I don't want it to. Anyone know how to tell the system that the disks aren't mirrored?
[22:16] <Sentynel> The_Journey_: If you mouseover it, a little panel comes up to the right of it. Hit the spanner icon for settings and select "show the desktop folder". You can also just drag individual files onto the desktop and choose "as icon".
[22:20] <oscar__> Hi can anyone tell me how to stop GRUB from loading on startup?
[22:20] <camillia> hey there guys, i upgraded from jaunty to karmic and now my flash doesn't have sound
[22:20] <camillia> I've removed and re-installed and the video works, but not the sound in flash
[22:22] <{aaron}> hi, is anybody familiar with 'ufw'? i'm trying to enable it over a remote connection
[22:23] <{aaron}> i tried adding some rules but 'ufw show' doesn't show anything
[22:23] <{aaron}> do i have to have it enabled before i can actually configure it?
[22:24] <theball> hi, if i may has anyone had problems with the 64bit install not seing the windows hard drive and then being left out of the linux install and the grub menu?
[22:24] <_nix_> {aaron}: ufw has a relatively easy configuration. For starters, the commands "sudo ufw default deny" and "sudo ufw enable" should set a default policy and enable the firewall.
[22:24] <{aaron}> i need to make sure my ssh port stays open
[22:24] <{aaron}> i was uneasy enabling without beign able to actually see the rules
[22:25] <{aaron}> does 'ufw show' only work once it's turned on?
[22:25] <{aaron}> or is there some other way i can inspect the rules
[22:25] <Huntz23> afternoon all
[22:25] <theball> afternoon
[22:25] <_nix_> {aaron}: "ufw show" shows the current running status afaik.
[22:26] <Huntz23> I have a dual boot grub question, anyone available?
[22:26] <_nix_> oscar__: depressing the shift key while the computer is starting should show you the grub menu.
[22:27] <Huntz23> its not the default boot record anymore I reinstalled XP
[22:27] <{aaron}> well i'm going to set the default to allow and then enable and thens ee if it will really show me anything
[22:28] <Huntz23> so off course windows overwrites the MBR becuase its rude, and I am a bit rusty
[22:28] <_nix_> Huntz23: you might want to take a look at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[22:28] <Huntz23> rgr
[22:30] <Huntz23> ok _nix_ that looks helpful, diving in now, let you know what I get
[22:31] <TheGentleman> Anyone tried to run Karmic in a Vbox 3.0.10 (Win XP host) ?  I'm not able to have it running though Jaunty worked well in a Vbox 3.0.8
[22:31] <theball> can anyone helpppp me get the 64bit install to see my win hard drive not as a raid with my data drive so i can get it to  boot windows??
[22:32] <Dragnslcr> theball: are those the only two disks in your computer?
[22:32] <Dragnslcr> Or are they at least the first two disks?
[22:32] <theball> no i have 3 1 for win 1 for data and then 1 for linux
[22:32] <theball> in that sequence as well
[22:33] <Dragnslcr> Are they the same size?
[22:33] <theball> the 32 bit install disk see's them fine
[22:33] <theball> yes all 3 are 160 giggers
[22:34] <Dragnslcr> Are you using the DVD?
[22:34] <theball> right now i am trying to install and it shows the first 2 as a raid with id. of mapper
[22:34] <theball> cd
[22:34] <Dragnslcr> Hm
[22:34] <Dragnslcr> I think you're having the same problem I am
[22:34] <theball> and like i said i had the 32 bit version and it installed flawlesly
[22:35] <Dragnslcr> Open a console and do ls /dev/mapper
[22:35] <Dragnslcr> Let's see how much we have in common
[22:35] <theball> since i am in  the install procces how do i get a term?
[22:35] <tominglis> i can only run kgpg as root - does anyone know what could be wrong?
[22:36] <Dragnslcr> Did you pick "Try Kubuntu" from the menu first, or just go right to the installer?
[22:37] <theball> got it it says control isw blah balh seagater 160 and then isw blah blah seagater 1601
[22:38] <theball> went right to installer
[22:38] <theball> let me reboot to the try option
[22:38] <Dragnslcr> Know offhand what kind of motherboard you have?
[22:39] <Dragnslcr> Or if you have a separate Seagate RAID controller?
[22:39] <theball> asus m
[22:39] <theball> its an asus m3a78
[22:39] <Dragnslcr> So same brand as I have, at least
[22:40] <theball> its just wierd that the 32 bit cd worked fine
[22:40] <theball> 64 bit suse 11.1 gave me similar pains
[22:40] <Huntz23> question, if I mount the /root partition and it has boot in that partition, I shouldn't have to mount /media/root/boot right?
[22:41] <Dragnslcr> theball: if you find out anything, let me know, because it looks like we're having the same problem
[22:41] <theball> btw thanks dragon for the efforts thus far, i am new to using orc
[22:41] <Dragnslcr> Google isn't being very helpful for this
[22:42] <theball> ok i dont give up easy so sure
[22:42] <theball> thats why i turned to irc lol
[22:42] <Dragnslcr> Heh
[22:42] <Huntz23> irc rocks
[22:42] <Huntz23> sometimes a fresh look is all it takes
[22:43] <theball> that was my perspective on it as well, i actually used irc if i remeber back in redhat 5.1 days come to think of it
[22:44] <Dragnslcr> theball: have you tried the forums yet?
[22:44] <theball> yeah trying to install from the try linux option does the same thing drag
[22:44] <Dragnslcr> If not, I'll post something and see if anyone else has any ideas
[22:44] <theball> nope thats the next step i think
[22:45] <theball> great i am going into bios to see if there is a setting i can change to get it to work, i cant break win 7 since i need itunes for the touch lol
[22:46] <Huntz23> crap
[22:46] <Huntz23> love grub, hate windows
[22:47] <theball>  /agree
[22:47] <Dragnslcr> theball: I've already checked my BIOS to make sure RAID is disabled, which it is
[22:48] <theball> i am trying ahci mode for the sata controller now
[22:51] <theball> nope still see's them as a raid
[22:55] <Refraxx> Can someone give me any info about the new 9.10 upgrade for linux? I am currently operating vers. 9.04.  Will this new upgrade disrupt anything?
[22:55] <Ev0luti0n_> nope
[22:56] <Ev0luti0n_> Refraxx: as far as i know and experienced, it is awesome
[22:56] <Refraxx> Awsome in what way?
[22:56] <Ev0luti0n_> i upgraded through kpackage kit
[22:56] <Ev0luti0n_> all went well
[22:56] <Ev0luti0n_> new functionalities
[22:56] <Ev0luti0n_> loads of corrections and bug fixes
[22:56] <Ev0luti0n_> very fast
[22:57] <Ev0luti0n_> ;)
[22:57] <Refraxx> ok, thanks
[22:57] <nestorconde> hi, when I change workspaces with desktop effects enables I see the gnome desktop with its wallpaper
[22:58] <Refraxx> Is Limewire only acessable through linux? (I found it only after transisitioning from windows)
[22:58] <nestorconde> using kubuntu 9.10 used ubuntu before
[22:58] <Huntz23> ok if I reinstall grub in linux how does it overwrite the MBR on my windows drive
[22:58] <klabezo> please some one help me to setup my sound card
[22:58] <nestorconde> is tihs a known bug or should I report it?
[22:58] <klabezo> 00:06.0 Multimedia audio controller: ESS Technology ES1978 Maestro 2E (rev 10)
[23:00] <Refraxx> Ev0luti0n-- Thanks for the info. I am gonna shut down evrything,b 4 I install the upgrade. (just 2 b on the safe side)
[23:03] <brelic> hey everyone.. just installed ubuntu karmic... but can't find the kubuntu-desktop package... is it possible it just isn't available yet?
[23:06] <theball> hey drag you still here?
[23:07] <klabezo> please some one help me to setup my sound card
[23:08] <amik> is it possible to show the full path in a dolphin title bar (and thus taskbar label)?
[23:08] <Dragnslcr> theball- sort of
[23:09] <theball> do you know if we have too pass some switch or config to get it to not see raid?
[23:10] <Dragnslcr> Not that I know of
[23:10] <theball> its just wierd the 32bit install works fine
[23:10] <Dragnslcr> I don't remember this problem when I tried an alpha of 9.10, so it must be a new bug
[23:11] <theball> GAH
[23:11] <Dragnslcr> I'm going to try to find some time to test a couple other installers, like a regular Ubuntu one
[23:12] <theball>  cool benas, well i thank you for your time anyway, at least im not the only one in this pickle sadly lol
[23:13] <Dragnslcr> Yeah, if I discover anything, I'll let you know
[23:13] <Huntz23> argh, if anything could go right
[23:13] <theball> thanks ill keep this term up
[23:13] <Huntz23> I would be happy
[23:14] <Huntz23> been away from linux so long that I feel useless in a command line
[23:15] <dtchen> err, really?
[23:15] <dtchen> oh, sorry, I utterly misparsed that statement.
[23:15] <Huntz23> laf
[23:16] <Huntz23> just trying to fix grub and nothing is cooperating
[23:20] <jeroen_> good evening :)
[23:20] <Huntz23> evening
[23:20] <theball> evening
[23:21] <jeroen_> I just rebooted my system and kubuntu forgot my audio driver... it asked to forget Intel HDA (analog)
[23:21] <jeroen_> dunno how to get it back xD
[23:21] <Sentynel> jeroen_: I had the same thing; just reboot.
[23:21] <jeroen_> Sentynel: I did :(
[23:21] <jeroen_> Sentynel: twice
[23:22] <theball> did you plug in anything that my through a switch on the sound confug?
[23:22] <theball> config*
[23:22] <Sentynel> jeroen_: Huh, weird. I've got a Creative X-Fi (finally supported by ALSA!) and an Intel HDA. Few boots ago I got that popup for both cards, but I said don't forget and rebooted and everything came back.
[23:22] <jeroen_> well i cant remember doing anything strange
[23:23] <theball> mine goes wierd sometimes when front headphone jack is plugged in'
[23:23] <jeroen_> just installed the ATI driver and rebooted (got my 2 monitors working dual-head finally :P)
[23:23] <dtchen> err
[23:24] <dtchen> none of you should be using PulseAudio, so that shouldn't be in the problem space at all
[23:24] <jeroen_> i do have a headgear plugged in atm *-)
[23:24] <jeroen_> i have pulseaudio installed..
[23:24] <dtchen> oh krikey.
[23:24] <dtchen> so -- do you have sl-modem-daemon installed?
[23:25] <jeroen_> have to check that
[23:25] <dtchen> please do so
[23:25] <jeroen_> nope i dont
[23:25] <jeroen_> what does it do?
[23:26] <dtchen> jeroen_: It's a soft modem driver that uses ALSA and interferes with PulseAudio's module-udev-detect (I blogged about this).
[23:27] <jeroen_> dtchen: should i install it?
[23:27] <dtchen> jeroen_: please use pastebin the output from: sudo fuser -v /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/* /dev/seq*
[23:27] <dtchen> jeroen_: absolutely not. Do not install it.
[23:27] <jeroen_> ok
[23:27] <dtchen> err, ok, my grammar skills are quickly disappearing, but whatever.
[23:27] <CupofDice> Should 'Hardware Drivers' also show open source graphic card drivers in addition to Nvidia? Or do I have to look for them elsewhere?
[23:29] <jeroen_> dtchen: http://pastebin.com/d5a4a55fe
[23:31] <dtchen> jeroen_: what's the output from: pactl stat|grep '^Default Sink'
[23:32] <jeroen_> auto_null
[23:33] <jeroen_> dtchen: Default Sink: auto_null
[23:34] <jeroen_> dtchen: should i remove pulseaudio?
[23:38] <dtchen> jeroen_: no, unless it's just horrific for you
[23:38] <dtchen> jeroen_: aha, so you have a null sink much as I suspected
[23:38] <dtchen> jeroen_: so --
[23:38] <dtchen> jeroen_: in KDE System Settings > Multimedia, what is Phonon configured to use as the primary profile?
[23:39] <dtchen> jeroen_: i.e., you should make PulseAudio the primary (on top/ahead of ALSA default/hw)
[23:39] <jeroen_> dtchen: HDA Intel (ALC889A Analog) was primary
[23:40] <jeroen_> dtchen: changed it to PulseAudio
[23:40] <Guest12429> hi
[23:40] <jeroen_> dtchen: ps. What is Phonon? :)
[23:41] <dtchen> jeroen_: Phonon is the multimedia abstraction
[23:41] <Guest12429> can anyone please help me in configuring wireless internet connectivity??
[23:42] <jeroen_> dtchen: ok so i changed it to PulseAudio
[23:45] <jeroen_> dtchen: I have snd-hda-intel in my blacklist... could that be the problem?
[23:50] <jeroen_> Is there a quick way to load a driver?
[23:50] <jeroen_> with command line
[23:55] <huntz23> ok, I need some help with grub
[23:56] <huntz23> I followed the wiki page to install over the MBR in windows and I got windows
[23:56] <huntz23> no grub to choose windows or linux