[00:27] <hyc> wgrant: thanks
[00:28] <hyc> yes, I tried several times, waited 10-15 minutes between tries, etc.
[00:32] <lifeless> wgrant: do you think there is an outage?
[00:45] <wgrant> lifeless: I don't.
[00:55] <kklimonda> heh, new T400 costs $600 and the motherboard for my T61 is $300.. life is such a bi***
[00:55] <wgrant> That's a cheap T400.
[01:03] <wgrant> Impressive. An US T400 is AUD1000 cheaper than an identically specced AU one.
[01:05] <hyc> I've just spent $120 and $150 respectively on two new LCD panels for my laptop
[01:05] <hyc> 15.4" WUXGA
[01:05] <hyc> because none of the new laptop models seem to be available in 15.4" any more
[01:06] <wgrant> T500?
[01:06] <hyc> also, AMD CPU...
[01:06] <hyc> I'm still avoiding Intel
[01:06] <wgrant> Ah.
[01:07] <hyc> unfortunately I haven't yet got any working modelines/timings for this display.
[01:07] <hyc> and it's possible that I damaged the LCD cable; waiting for a new one at the momet.
[01:07] <hyc> the joys of DIY upgrades
[01:11] <hyc> life would be easier if we had open source BIOSes
[01:11] <hyc> then I could just find the source and reflash the correct values
[01:12] <lifeless> hyc: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coreboot
[01:13] <hyc> yeah
[01:13] <hyc> not enough support on current laptops
[02:13] <Sjors> Hi
[02:13] <Sjors> I was reading about Launchpad Translations
[02:13] <Sjors> Is it possible to use that with a project hosted on Sourceforge?
[02:19] <RenatoSilva> I think so
[02:21] <beuno> Sjors, sure, just use Launchpad for translations
[02:24] <Sjors> ok great, I'll pass the idea on to the rest of the team, see what they think
[02:25] <Sjors> thanks :)
[04:31] <MsMaco> is it possible in the bug advanced search to look for bugs a certain person *hasn't* commented on?
[04:31] <wgrant> MsMaco: No.
[04:31] <MsMaco> boo
[04:32] <wgrant> Although you could use the API to get a list of all bugs, and then do a set subtraction...
[04:32] <MsMaco> how about bugs with no comments?
[04:32] <wgrant> You could order the results by number of comments ascending.
[04:32] <MsMaco> i want to find audio bugs that dan hasn't commented on. i tried -crimsun in the Commenter field, but LP got unhappy :P
[04:32] <MsMaco> :-/ i want the newest ones too though
[04:40] <dtchen> err
[04:40] <dtchen> "audio bugs that dan hasn't commented on" is a very, very big set
[04:41] <wgrant> That sounds like a bug.
[04:41] <dtchen> I'm already subscribed to the common ones by virtue of being in ~ubunut-audio-team
[04:41] <dtchen> ubuntu*
[04:41] <dtchen> however, it's the wacky ones like the libao-pulse that are slipping through the cracks
[04:41] <dtchen> you pretty much have to read ubuntu-bugs to get those
[04:46] <MsMaco> well i wanted to get new bugs (say in the last week) with the word "sound" in them that you haven't commented on
[04:46] <MsMaco> but yeah, sounds like i need to go learn python :(
[08:14] <TheNetrix> whats this place for?
[08:15] <wgrant> TheNetrix: Mostly support for Launchpad.net
[08:16] <TheNetrix> Oops, Im in the wrong place
[08:16] <TheNetrix> sori
[10:46] <A4Tech> All greetings. At the launchpad, you can create a project that only I could download and update?
[10:47] <mwhudson> A4Tech: https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+faq/208
[10:50] <A4Tech> mwhudson thx :)
[15:20] <nachiket> Hello, I need help with permission during installation of a source package
[15:27] <maxb> nachiket: It sounds like you have an Ubuntu packaging issue, rather than a Launchpad issue. If that is the case, #ubuntu-motu is a more suitable place to ask.
[15:28] <nachiket> I was refereed here by Launchpad's help system.. I am trying to use Launchpad to build a package
[15:29] <Krystof> mwhudson: I did not expect to see you here
[15:29] <maxb> nachiket: You should explain in more detail what the problem is - your initial question didn't sound like that at all.
[15:30] <Krystof> (what I actually came here to ask was: how long should I wait for a response to a message sent to feedback@launchpad.net before I should start wondering whether it's got lost in the mail?)
[15:30] <nachiket> sorry, I have a package that compiles fine locally on my machine.. When I try to compile the package after uploading to Launchpad I get errors relating to permissions
[15:31] <nachiket> "make install" command in my rules file fails as it is trying to write into /usr/local directory
[15:32] <maxb> Right, that's definitely a bug in your package's source, so I think it falls more into #ubuntu-motu territory
[15:32] <nachiket> ok i'll ask there
[15:33] <maxb> Krystof: I'd suggest you ask here on a weekday
[15:53] <sageNsand> On my bug report is there a way to close it. Someone posted a link that I think is rouge. I took the page private, but would like to delete it
[15:54] <Goundy> sageNsand sorry for this off topic but what does "rouge" means ? :p
[15:56] <sageNsand> the link won't open in firefox but when you paste it in internet explorer it wants to open a .exe in VLC
[15:57] <sageNsand> read post 8 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.5/+bug/418790
[15:58] <sageNsand> "http://res1.windows.microsoft.com/resbox/en/Windows%207/Main/5/5/55191799-c851-4ca4-8d17-ed9bd33b2652/55191799-c851-4ca4-8d17-ed9bd33b2652.wmv".
[16:00] <sageNsand> In Vista I get a security popup dialog and you can see the extension has a .exe
[16:09] <sageNsand> This is an old bug report when karmic testing and I would like to let it die in the 60 days time so I need to stop someone from posting. How do I do that?
[16:11] <sageNsand> I thought there might be a option under Status
[16:28] <Sjors> sageNsand, Goundy: he probably meant rogue
[16:29] <Goundy> Sjors thank you :p
[16:30] <andrea-bs> sageNsand, you should ask an administrator to delete that comment. You can do this opening a question on https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad
[18:46] <mwhudson> Krystof: why not?
[19:08] <eday> Hi! I upgraded to 2.0.1 on both my Ubuntu and OpenSolaris machines, and when doing a fresh 'bzr branch lp:drizzle', I get a timeout after about two hours. I've tried both paramiko and openssh. Thoughts?  http://pastebin.com/m33fb7882
[19:09] <eday> For most of the time, it just sits at:  [#########|          ]    188KB     1KB/s | Fetching revisions:Get stream sourc
[19:12] <NoCode> Are keyservers down?
[19:12] <NoCode> If so, when will they be back up?
[19:14] <maxb> NoCode: Try pool.sks-keyservers.net
[19:20] <NoCode> maxb: So, how am I supposed to get a ppa key from there?
[19:23] <maxb> NoCode: just search for it by name or fingerprint?
[19:32] <mwhudson> eday: are you branching into a shared repo?
[19:32] <mwhudson> eday: if so, make sure it's the same format as the remote branch
[19:33] <eday> mwhudson: I am, using 2a format (default)
[19:33] <eday> mwhudson: ok, lemme try 1.9
[19:33] <mwhudson> i suspect that will go much better
[19:34] <Krystof> mwhudson: I don't think I'd spotted that you were a canonical employee
[19:34] <Krystof> so I had a slight blast-from-the-past moment
[19:34] <mwhudson> Krystof: ah :)
[19:35] <eday> mwhudson: ahh, yes. there it goes. I thought you could use a local 2a repo? Is that a bug or intended?
[19:35] <mwhudson> Krystof: i also now live in nz ...
[19:35] <Krystof> see, I didn't know that either.  There was me expecting you to be awake in daylight GMT
[19:42] <maxb> eday: Also remember that 2a is rich-root
[19:51] <dhillon-v10> hi all, I am trying to get the launchpad-gm scripted to work but no luck, I installed them but when I open up a bug, the stock replies script isn't working
[20:41] <moradan> hello, point me please with a description of how can I organize translation of some documentation which is in xml with launchpad. I have not created a project yet - and if it would be created it will only be using for translation. (The project is a very specialized part of GNU and is under GPL so I think there should be no problems with working on it with launchpad).
[20:45] <moradan> sorry I was disconnected and haven't seen answers I any - please repeat (maybe personally)
[21:09] <lifeless> moradan: we only support gettext - .pot/.po based translation
[21:09] <lifeless> if you want an xml based system, you'd need to write a xml->.pot, and .po->xml translators
[21:10] <moradan> I thought there are some workarounds....
[21:10] <lifeless> not that I know of; but I'm not a translations developer
[21:11] <lifeless> in a few hours jtv will be around, he will know if anyone does
[21:12] <moradan> these files are from some other automating system - maybe there are some ways to convert in/from .po
[21:12] <moradan> thanks
[21:21] <merma> is there a way to change my launchpad username?
[21:31] <lifeless> merma: on your user page
[21:58] <lfaraone> rockstar: if we import bugs from trac into launchpad, how do we handle the user migration?
[22:01] <rockstar> lfaraone, what do you mean by user migration?
[22:04] <lfaraone> rockstar: how will users who had trac accounts but not launchpad accounts go about logging in to launchpad?
[22:05] <rockstar> lfaraone, they'll have to create launchpad accounts.
[22:07] <lfaraone> rockstar: okay. how do we tie their previous comments to their new account etc?
[22:08] <lifeless> if they had email info in trac
[22:08] <lifeless> we can have a placeholder for them
[22:09] <lifeless> as long as trac exports that, of course
[22:09] <rockstar> ...what lifeless said.
[22:09] <rockstar> Then you just make sure your launchpad account is tied to that email address.
[22:10] <lfaraone> Okay.
[22:11] <lfaraone> lifeless, rockstar, is there anything we can do with redirects or something to ensure our bug number URLs don't break?
[22:11] <lifeless> get the import into lp done
[22:11] <lifeless> then build an apache mapping table with mod_redirect
[22:12] <lfaraone> lifeless: okay, will the person who does the import be able to give us the new bug numbers?
[22:13] <lifeless> lfaraone: I'd expect so; if you ask for it we can make sure it happens
[22:16] <wgrant> lfaraone: One way it is often done is to give the LP bugs nicknames like 'project1234' which identify their numbers on the old bug tracker. Then you just have to redirect from http://url.to/old/bugs/1234 to https://launchpad.net/bugs/project1234, and LP will do the redirect to the new number.
[22:17] <lfaraone> lifeless: Okay. Kiko mentioned that CNAME support is eventually going to be implemented for branded subdomains. (ie "bugs.sugarlabs.org") When this happens, would you be able to add the redirect on your side?
[22:17] <lfaraone> wgrant: ah, mk. can we specify that in the import, or do we have to do that manually?
[22:18] <wgrant> lfaraone: It's normally done as part of the import, but I don't quite know how.
[22:19] <lifeless> lfaraone: I can't comment on branded subdomains - I'm not familiar with the plan there
[22:33] <lfaraone> lifeless: understood.
[23:20] <MTecknology> Is it possible to have the ubuntu-drupal-openid project reactivated?
[23:22] <thumper> MTecknology: anything is possible with enough time and caffeine
[23:23] <MTecknology> thumper: Would you be the one that is hyped up on caffeine that will help me?
[23:23] <thumper> MTecknology: what is the rationale for reactivating?
[23:24] <thumper> MTecknology: do you know why it was deactivated?
[23:24] <MTecknology> thumper: It was requested - by me
[23:24] <MTecknology> thumper: I want to take all these branches and assign it to the project  https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-drupal-openid-devs
[23:25] <wgrant> That's not a project.
[23:25] <wgrant> Oh, other way around. I see.
[23:27] <MTecknology> I can create a new one too - that's not a big deal at all
[23:27] <thumper> MTecknology: using the API? As there isn't a way to move branches between projects on the UI right now
[23:28] <MTecknology> oh - I thought there way
[23:28] <maxb> LP seems slightly confused about having branches for a disabled project :-)
[23:28] <thumper> MTecknology: there used to be
[23:28] <MTecknology> maxb: It's because they still exist and are fully functional
[23:29] <thumper> MTecknology: but it got temporarily removed due to package branches
[23:29] <thumper> and we haven't yet come up with a good ui
[23:29] <MTecknology> oh-oh
[23:29] <thumper> I need to get a hacky one up
[23:29] <MTecknology> I deleted a branch that I need to exist.....
[23:29] <thumper> MTecknology: active again
[23:30] <MTecknology> thumper: thanks :)
[23:30] <thumper> MTecknology: np
[23:30] <MTecknology> I hope they do a push before realizing the branch is gone :S
[23:30] <thumper> MTecknology: there is a method on the branch object called "setTarget", this can take a project
[23:31] <thumper> MTecknology: :)
[23:31] <MTecknology> thumper: I wasn't smart and trashed 2 branches...
[23:31] <thumper> MTecknology: oops
[23:32] <thumper> MTecknology: and I take it you don't have copies?
[23:32] <MTecknology> thumper: not me - but somebody else does
[23:32] <MTecknology> thumper: I guess jsut bzr push will correct it
[23:32] <thumper> MTecknology: we don't actually remove the branch off disk for a week
[23:32] <thumper> MTecknology: a push will
[23:32] <thumper> MTecknology: but it won't have the same subscribers or links
[23:33] <MTecknology> thumper: could you push them? :D
[23:33] <MTecknology> thumper: or correct, or idk
[23:33] <thumper> I don't have access to the filestore directly
[23:33] <thumper> it would need a LOSA
[23:33] <MTecknology> oh, ok
[23:42] <RenatoSilva> Why does ubuntu still have that brown look? Is there any bug registered for implementing a better theme like a blue/white look?
[23:47] <spiv> RenatoSilva: go to System->Preferences->Appearance and choose a theme that you like
[23:48] <spiv> I personally like the brown look.
[23:48] <RenatoSilva> second channel to not actually answer the question
[23:48] <mwhudson> RenatoSilva: was the first as inappropriate as this one?
[23:49] <RenatoSilva> I already did a long time ago, I've erased the brown from Ubuntu a long time ago, but Karmic brought it back :(
[23:49] <RenatoSilva> mwhudson: I mean, I'm just curious why sabdfl or whoever "still keeps ubuntu brown"
[23:50] <spiv> Well, considering "blue/white" to be "better" than "brown" is pretty clearly a subjective matter of taste, and it's not really on topic for this channel anyway, so I think my answer was appropriate enough ;)
[23:50] <wgrant> I quite like the brown, and I believe sabdfl said that it certainly wouldn't be going blue any time soon.
[23:50] <wgrant> and this channel is completely the wrong place to ask.
[23:50] <RenatoSilva> spiv: I'm trying to find the appropriate channel to ask this
[23:50] <wgrant> One related to Ubuntu would be a good start.
[23:51] <RenatoSilva> they don't answer, I guess there's no developer there, they don't know why ubuntu is brown
[23:51] <lifeless> RenatoSilva: #ubuntu-desktop
[23:51] <lifeless> and/or the ayatana mailing list
[23:53] <RenatoSilva> I think I would not think about this if Karmic didn't remove my login screen without option to customize again (it seems). Anyway, I don't really mean it should not be brown, I'm just curious for the reason.
[23:59] <RenatoSilva> lifeless: thanks