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Zakmo_hey00:46
Zakmo_I need some help00:46
Zakmo_I have installed 9.10 x64 and when I try to activate ATI hardware driver it says cant download broken packages00:47
Zakmo_anybody00:49
DasEiZakmo_: #ubuntu00:57
fdasffsfdaghhow to email01:27
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razibhello05:01
razibi cant connect to my pppoe connection with 9.10 ... can anyone help05:02
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jrev1391where is the teacher ?09:11
jrev1391what is CTCP ?09:11
jrev1391I am new here09:12
iktHello09:16
ikt<jrev1391> what is CTCP ? <- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Client-To-Client_Protocol09:17
ikt<jrev1391> where is the teacher ? <- Check the link in the topic for when a teacher will next be around09:18
jrev1391thanks09:21
slayer^_^_hi11:00
Danoquit14:10
bethlynnhi14:35
bethlynnwho's excited about openweek?15:02
Hrunwhere does one get the source of a package? and in such a way that a diff might be accepted?15:15
joaopintoHrun, better ask on #ubuntu-motu15:26
Hrunok. will do. thanks.15:26
Dizzyd87hello!17:01
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WiL_Hello20:42
WiL_I can not connect to the net with my ubuntu 9.10 and this is my first time using ubuntu.20:43
Doorman352Iḿ no expert, but Iĺl try and help you.20:44
Doorman352What kind of system is it?20:44
WiL_what do you mean system? Sorry.20:45
Doorman352Is it a stor bought computer or did you build it yourself?20:45
WiL_store bought,20:46
Doorman352what brand?20:46
WiL_advent20:46
Doorman352no insult intended, but did it come with a network card?20:46
WiL_yesterday I downloaded and installed linux side by side with windows ... thn rebooted the system to get into linux ...it all went without a hitch.20:47
WiL_yes, it has a netcard.20:47
Doorman352OK, so it works in wiindows, just not in linux20:47
Doorman352my typing is bad today, sorry20:47
WiL_wireless net also.20:47
Doorman352which are you trying to use the wireless or the wired?20:48
WiL_correct and before it worked in linux until today. When i just opened it.20:48
WiL_wireless20:48
Doorman352ok, on the top of the screen is the menu bar, click system, administration, network tools - weĺl go through what your system thinks is going on.20:49
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Doorman352let me know when you are with me.20:50
WiL_ok this means I will have to log out of windows and try it now.20:51
Doorman352ah... duh you are using windows now....20:51
WiL_yes20:51
WiL_sorry20:51
WiL_didn't explain it all the way through.20:52
Doorman352<--- Is a little slow today - too much candy20:52
WiL_I just read on the ubuntu site that someone changed his root pass and then created a log in and then it worked for them.20:53
Doorman352ok, Ubuntu may be using the wired card instead of the wireless. When you get back to your ubuntu desktop up on the top bar near the time/date you should see a network icon.20:53
WiL_I am still in root o I guess i need to get out of that ?20:53
WiL_nope no net icon i have been trying to look through the system to find it but had no clue where to find it.20:54
Doorman352Using root is sort of a bad thing, you should get used to using sudo to impersonate root as needed...20:54
Doorman352system, admin, net tools20:54
WiL_the first time saw that wireless net that should my power meter of how strong the signal was and then it was gone today.20:54
Doorman352when you have more than one network card, the system can decide on which is primary and secondary and they may just be flipped.20:55
WiL_crap.20:55
WiL_thats a bummer then being i am new at this ...20:56
Doorman352no, Ie only been doing ubuntu for a few months and nothing is that bad, there are many who have been there and back before you.20:56
WiL_yes true20:57
WiL_hehe.20:57
Doorman352my first conversion from windows - ubuntu was not pleasant until I rebooted a second time and then everything worked....20:57
WiL_wow.20:57
Doorman352spent 4 hours trying to fix things, that weren broken, just not started....20:58
WiL_well i have windows  and ubuntu on my computer...so far.20:58
Doorman352other than my gaming adiction I try to use ubuntu for everything and liek it.20:58
WiL_yes and when i get the net up i have question about downloading but that will have to be for later ;)20:58
WiL_yeah I am a gamer also.20:58
Doorman352do you have a firewall/router?20:59
WiL_yes both20:59
Doorman352any chance you setup security on them to block computers you didn specify? You would know if you set that up...21:00
WiL_nope, I didn't set that up.21:00
Doorman352good, one less thing21:00
WiL_most of it is automatic....basic stuff like block or not to block :)21:01
Doorman352ok, then try this and come back.21:01
WiL_will do .21:02
WiL_thanks btw.21:02
Doorman352In Ubuntu click Applications - Accessories - Terminal and type ifconfig, just like windows ipconfig, just spelled different. It should list all your network interfaces and you should see both your cards and a lo (local) port. If not then we have a hardware/device issue in Ubuntu.21:02
Doorman352If they both show up, try temp plugging your wired connection into the router direct and see if evrything works...21:03
Doorman352Youŕe welcome21:04
WiLiAMHey Doorman35221:49
WiLiAMit is me WiL_21:49
Doorman352so it works?21:50
WiLiAMnope21:50
Doorman352shucks, what did you learn?21:50
WiLiAMbut i found something out it works in guest log in21:50
WiLiAMwhich is what I am in now.21:51
WiLiAMbut under my name which the computer is in it does not work or connect to the internet.21:51
Doorman352ok, so it sound like your user account might be the culprit.... not my strength either, but if your game we can see if we can tweak it..21:52
WiLiAMsure ... i was wondering how do i create anthore log in so I am not using the main account.21:52
Doorman352System - Admin - Users and Groups21:53
WiLiAMah ha it shows I am not in root when i log in it shows another account which I log in to with my name so maybe that is the one messed up.21:54
Doorman352could be, permissions are much more granualr and particular than windows21:55
WiLiAMok so then how do I go about switching to root so I can create another account ...I thought I was in root the whole time but I was not which is good for me if you know what I mean.21:56
Doorman352you probably wont be able to add a new user as guest, but you can as root. So build another account and give it system admin priveledges and then you should be able to do everything short of root.21:56
WiLiAMso root is God basically?21:57
Doorman352There is a command to do that, I don remeber it. So log out and log back in.... itś ugly but works21:57
WiLiAMhaha yes i will give it a try be back in a jiff.21:57
WiLiAMhopefully. ;)21:57
Doorman352no prob21:57
qwebirc95296doorman352 it is me WiL_22:16
Doorman352ok.... did it work?22:16
qwebirc95296ok I could not figure out how to get into the root from guest or my old log in-22:16
Doorman352did you use username root and the root password?22:17
qwebirc95296no hehe on the log in screen I only get 2 choices my name or something called (other) .22:18
qwebirc95296I will see if i can find where to put root.22:18
qwebirc95296ok truthfully I have no clue what the root password it hopefullyit is the same as all the othe ones.22:19
Doorman352if not you are SOL....the system really protects the root, but you can always reload ubuntu22:19
qwebirc95296yep22:20
Doorman35215 mins is nothing comapred to windows 4+ hours22:20
qwebirc95296going back in to find where to switch to root be back .22:20
Doorman352i gotta learn to type/spell22:20
qwebirc95296haha no worries.22:20
WiL_Doorman352 no such luck...22:37
Doorman352%$@#%22:38
Doorman352You on the ubuntu box now?22:38
WiL_ok so how do I uninstall ubuntu?22:38
WiL_I am on ubuntu now yes22:38
Doorman352try this first...22:38
Doorman352click on apps - Accessories- terminal22:39
WiL_ok i am logged in guest at the moment.22:39
Doorman352no prob22:40
WiL_ok22:40
Doorman352type su, then put in your root password....22:40
WiL_huston we have a problem22:41
WiL_I donùt remember pass and i can not recall setting one up.22:42
WiL_do not§22:42
Doorman352OK.... it should have been the password for the first account you setup...22:42
JonyBlazesudo su22:42
JonyBlaze?22:42
Doorman352duh..... I should have known22:43
Doorman352His primary user account can use the network connections, but his guest account can.22:43
Doorman352can22:44
Doorman352cant22:44
Doorman352and i cant type22:44
WiL_no door...it is the opposit ... :)22:45
Doorman352<--- Is dazed and confused - the 60s werent good to me22:45
WiL_haha22:45
Doorman352have you tried sudo su and the password?22:46
WiL_so try (sudo su) with out ()22:47
Doorman352sudo su22:47
Doorman352password22:47
WiL_one sec22:47
WiL_it says unable to chang to sudo op not permitted22:48
Doorman352I dont think guest can do certain tasks22:49
WiL_one sec22:49
Doorman352ok, if you have nothing invested in this ubuntu install, put the disk in and install it again, just tell it to load over the other like it wasnt there. In a few minutes it will ask you your name, passwords, etc and it should come right up as a fresh install.22:50
WiL_wait i did it i got to the sudo su some how.22:51
Doorman352cool22:51
Doorman352now dont close terminal, go to the user and groups again22:52
WiL_i typed in my name again and got into it on the other section22:52
WiL_I have to switch back over to my other user one sec...22:52
Doorman352are the users still greyed out?22:52
WiL_yep22:54
WiL_still...argh22:54
WiL_and i downloaded the program to my desk top on windows22:54
WiL_ubuntu that is ...it is a new fiture they added for 9.1022:55
WiL_where u can use it fro there and make the system half and half ..22:55
Doorman352no prob, you just restart windows and do it again like it never happened. Just when you get to the partition info select the same one from before.22:56
WiL_ok22:56
Doorman352I wish I was better at this..22:56
WiL_will do thanks for all your help Doorman35222:56
Doorman352you are welcome22:56
WiL_no worries we all have to learn some how22:56
Doorman352yep22:56
WiL_until the next time..22:56
WiL_Doorman352 hey back but on windows at the moment23:08
WiL_Doorman352 I am using the ubuntu installer for windows from the ubuntu site which does not give me the choice so far int he beginning of choosing root or its pass word but I get to choose my name and pass so far23:11
Doorman352ok, see that didnt hurt....much23:11
Doorman352that password will become root, I think23:11
WiL_no not at all I will play my fifa until it is done hehe.23:12
WiL_hopefully.23:12

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