[12:34] hi all [13:19] Using karmic, I am trying to get wifi working with a realtek 8172 wifi card (thinkpad T500 laptop). I installed the windows driver (8192se, thats what the pre-installed vista uses) with ndisgtk. "ndiswrapper -l" shows the driver is loaded and the hardware is detected, but network manager doesn't appear to see it. What can I do?