[00:00] /home/mythtv is created by the mythtv-common package [00:00] spirits-sight, you are better off installing from scratch yes [00:00] i deleted it manually [00:00] well that's the cause of your problem :) [00:00] should I recreate it? [00:00] go make it again, and then script will run fine [00:00] thank you gonna try it out now [00:00] spirits-sight, more stuff is preconfigured for you, and you dont have to deal with pulseaudio which can cause problems sometimes [00:01] ok superm1 when I did this then installed ubuntu desktop it now shows the myth menu on my gnome with panels at top and bottom ?? [00:02] spirits-sight, that's a bug with compiz i think [00:02] i dont know, we dont really "support" running it in gnome, but for "the most part" it works [00:02] also when I want to shut down it says enter passcode as its a policy to ask when other user log in [00:02] another gnome specific bug [00:03] you're the man, suprm1 ! [00:03] it's gone! [00:03] Cuco3, dont go mucking around like that in the future :) [00:03] yeah :-/ [00:04] :::stupidstupidstupid::: [00:04] i was just desperate to get mythtv working and I was screwin around [00:04] hmm I'm curious if anyone else has seen bug 462432 [00:04] how great a program is it? [00:05] oh right. no bot. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mythmusic/+bug/462432 [00:06] Does MySQL remain on my computer if I remove MythTV? [00:06] cuz I'm hoping to get that off, too. so I can start a fresh installation of mythtv [00:07] can u recommend a cheap USB TV that supports CC and able to handle composite (three / two wire connection or would allow a coax to composite converter [00:08] or for the USA that is [01:15] anyone here? [01:16] can someone tell me in karmic how do i check for vdpau on xine,mplayer and mythtv? [02:13] Does anyone know if you uninstall MythTV Frontend+Backened that MySQL also gets removed? I'm hoping yes, just need a quick answer. Thank you. [03:11] what would cause all the frontends to break at once, while the backend is totally fine? [03:12] one frontend claims not to even notice that the backend is running, another sees the backend but when it tries to play any video the frontend disappears but you can still hear the audio? [03:27] The frontend that sees the backend still plays the videos, but when it does, the whole frontend goes invisible. If I hit esc it stops, then I hit enter, and the frontend reappears. [03:27] reinstalling the frontend does not help, and the backends database is not corrupted [03:28] two instances of mythtvfrontend.re that are zombied [03:36] Cuco3: Depends how you do it. Of course you can just remove mysql. [03:41] thanks hads. I have a couple of mysql packages installed. I'm wondering which one is the database. [03:42] I'm wondering if it's mysql-common [03:42] Cuco3: mysql-server [03:42] ahh ok. yeah, that one's not listed here as installed, perfect! [03:43] ty for that info, hads. :) [03:43] NP [05:43] the frontend is only broken in gnome [05:46] even with compiz off I get a black window [06:00] darthanubis, learn MythTV [06:04] X Error: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes) 8 [06:04] This is the issue [06:06] darthanubis, learn X [06:28] haha [08:26] I did have mythfrontend installed on a 9.04 desktop just playing to see if it could talk to another real backend but never used, however I have just done an upgrade to karmic and the machine has rebooted looking like a frontend with xfce etc... how can I remove xfce etc and have a standard karmic ubuntu desktop [08:59] ok .. so I just dist-upgrade to 9.10 from 9.04 and X is fux0r'd [08:59] heh [08:59] lucy, you have some splain' to do [09:00] Xorg process just runs at 100% of the cpu indefinitely [09:01] I'm thinking of deleting the X.org config and re-running the X dpkg-reconfigure [09:01] I didn't have to do that between 8.10 and 9.04 [09:02] most of the other services work (testing MythTV shortly via MythTV Player) but X seems to be borked [09:05] MythTV Backend works [09:06] can i follow http://www.mythbuntu.org/Upgrading to upgrade to 0.22 and not upgrade 9.04 to 9.10 [09:06] ? [09:06] Hi mtrelins [09:07] hi hads [09:07] i can just autoremove it if it screws up yeah? [09:07] and remove the repo, apt-get update, apt-get install mythtv... etc [09:07] to go back to 0.21 [09:07] ? [09:08] Sure, you can remove it and start again, though keep in mind that the database will be updated by the upgrade. [09:08] but doesn't it back it up? [09:08] So you will need to keep a backup of the database around. [09:08] i can dump it [09:08] it's just mythconverg, right? [09:08] I believe it does automatically but I would do it manually to be sure. [09:08] Yes [09:08] 2) Backup your database with the following command (it will prompt for the password from step 1) [09:08] mysqldump -u mythtv -p mythconverg > mythtvbackup.sql [09:08] Yeah [09:09] Then if you need to go back to 0.21 (you shouldn't) you can just restore the db. [09:09] so if i have the backup, 0.22 epic fails, i can just reimport the mythtvbackup.sql to mythconverg [09:09] Correct [09:09] and apt-get install mythtv again (The 0.21 version) [09:09] can a 0.21 frontend talk to a 0.22 server [09:09] ? [09:09] Nope [09:09] dang [09:09] ok [09:10] Myth has a protocol version which has to match. [09:10] do you run 0.22? [09:10] Yes, on 9.10 [09:10] is playback better on live tv? [09:10] I upgraded from 9.04, and 8.10, 8.04 etc before that. [09:10] I haven't had a problem with playback on either. [09:10] somehow upgrading ubuntu using dist-upgrade sits like a windows me -> windows vista upgrade [09:10] lol [09:11] Na, it works fine. [09:11] i guess i had a bad taste in my mouth from earlier ubuntu [09:11] like 5.04 [09:11] I recently reinstalled a machine that had been upgraded since about 6.06 or something [09:11] No issues [09:12] do you know anything about frame tearing fixes? [09:12] i eliminated frame tear on the backend [09:12] but it happens on the frontend [09:12] Throw hardware at it? :) [09:12] ok, i'm only doing 720x480 [09:12] 5mbit [09:12] just regular satellite [09:12] I haven't had a problem with tearing since I upgraded to newish hardware. [09:13] amd x2 64 3ghz [09:13] would i really need faster proc for 720x480 [09:13] 100mbit switch [09:13] Should be heaps, nvidia graphics? [09:13] no :( [09:13] ati :( [09:13] hd 4000 or something [09:13] Ah, that's possible it then. [09:14] THough I know nothing about ATI. [09:15] ATI Radeon HD 4200 [09:15] 2gb ram [09:15] sata [09:15] here's the thing [09:16] playing 1280x720 video in mplayer through mythvideo is flawless [09:16] using -vo gl [09:16] however [09:16] enabling GL sync for tv playback = death [09:16] is there some X reconfig I can run from the console? [09:16] frontend freezes [09:16] dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg? [09:16] X shouldn't need much config these days. [09:17] well it shows a bunch of machine languagee [09:17] mtrelins: I'm not sure sorry, I've not had to debug that type of issue so don't know a lot about it. [09:19] is there a better changelog from 0.21 to 0.22 fixes? [09:19] i'm reading the wiki and there's only a handful of stuff [09:19] Not that I know of. It would be pretty long if it was details. [09:20] how do I use the service utility? [09:21] apparently /etc/init.d/ isn't recommended anymore? [09:21] service something restart [09:21] the issue I have is that my mythtv frontend user isn't running since the 9.04 to 9.10 upgrade [09:21] it doesn't autostart [09:21] What doesn't autostart? [09:22] the mythfrontend user [09:22] isn't auto starting [09:22] I don't follow. You mean auto login? [09:22] yes [09:22] Okay, you can configure that with mythbuntu-control-centre [09:23] hads -- well my issue is that X doesn't start properly since the upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10 [09:23] hads -- I'm not trying to be annoying :) [09:23] anyone here use mythgame? [09:25] mtrelins: I've run mythgame, but it's never felt very complete [09:25] just wondering if it's best to do 32bit os for that [09:25] or 64 bit os [09:25] a lot of other emulators don't want to compile in 64bit [09:26] xmess gives crappy performance for snes / nes [09:26] mtrelins: unless you're running over 4gb of ram (and you need to) there's no HUGE advantage to 64bit [09:26] do you think there's a disadvantage in compatibility ? [09:26] the processor is x86_64 [09:26] so i could run 32bit ubuntu [09:26] and compile 32 bit emulators right? [09:26] i run 64bit [09:27] i currently get errors like "popa not supported on 64 bit" [09:27] everything is pretty much good to go [09:27] when i try to compile [09:27] but you'll find a few things that won't work [09:27] what emu do you use for NES? [09:27] zsnes [09:27] zsnes works for plain old nes? [09:27] no [09:27] oh [09:27] regular NES [09:27] I use femu [09:27] femu? [09:27] or rocknes [09:28] rocknes works in 64bit? [09:28] can you provide a d/l link? [09:28] anything that doesn't work native 64bit [09:28] I use a 32bit emulated enviornment [09:28] how do you do that? [09:28] linux32 before a command? [09:29] mtrelins: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=rocknes [09:29] har har [09:29] well seriously :) [09:29] it's the first link [09:29] rocknes 5.04 is .exe for windows? [09:30] uh... [09:30] there are other downloads [09:31] not to be thick, but i'm not seeing it at http://rocknes.kinox.org/ [09:32] i see [09:32] looks like they've quit support other OSes [09:32] use this: [09:32] http://www.emulator-zone.com/doc.php/nes/ [09:34] how do you emulate a 32 bit? [09:35] I get: mythtv is using all inputs but there are no active recordings [09:35] I restarted but same problem [09:37] Hi guys. Have any of you tried using mythtv with the apple front row remote? [09:38] mtrelins: how to setup ia32 chroot ubuntu [09:39] mtrelins: http://tinyurl.com/yfcge46 [09:41] you can toss me let me google that links all day [09:41] however [09:41] the first few hits in there are just blue prints [09:41] with what should happen [09:41] not how to do it [09:42] Raspberry: Be nice and helpful. [09:43] anyone got any ideas? [09:43] !logs [09:44] where can i put them? [09:44] ahhh ok, read topic :) [09:45] "MythTV logs are stored in /var/log/mythtv/ You can use mythbuntu-log-grabber from the Applications menu to automatically post the most relevant logs to our pastebin." is what that was meant to tell you. [09:47] http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/m158c93f2 [09:47] thanks for any help [09:48] Nothing intersting there. [09:49] damn [09:49] Well, except the "ERROR when trying to delete file" [09:49] Did you actually try and start watching TV then? THe logs don't show it. [09:50] I think I did... ill do it again to make sure [09:50] hads: be nice [09:51] if I remove log files will it create new ones? [09:52] luke_: Yes. [09:52] Raspberry: Oh, a new nick huh. Same old attitude. [09:52] hads: no, same nick for the last 8 years :P [09:53] hads: I'm just giving you a hard time :D [09:54] Okay, thought you were someone else. [09:54] nope :) [09:54] But I was serious about the be nice, lmgtfy isn't that helpful. [10:01] http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/m7f065f2c [10:01] thats all i get when i try watch tv, no backend log was created. [10:03] `sudo service mythtv-backend restart` [10:03] That will create the log file. [10:06] http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/m75237f7e [10:06] added backend after service restart [10:07] Yes now try and watch TV [10:08] ok brb [10:10] yea its working again? but I got no idea what just happend... [10:11] thanks by the way, you got the wife off my back :) [10:11] Perhaps the backend wasn't running before. [10:11] No problem. [10:12] I thought a full restart of the machine would have done it? mythtv does not start when I turn on my machine which is something i need to sort out [10:13] I'm thinking mythbuntu might be a better option than doing a full 9.10 and putting mythtv on top of it, I just liked having a full desktop for surfing internet etc [10:13] ok FYI about the frame tearing [10:13] i just updated the ati driver [10:13] apparently there's a new catalyst driver [10:13] came out 7 days ago [10:13] it helps a lot [10:14] luke_: Either way should work. [10:14] anyone know which deinterlacer looks best at 720x480? [10:14] bob2x is out of the question [10:14] mtrelins: Cool, thought it would be ATI that was the issue. [10:14] yeah it's not perfect [10:15] but it's better [10:15] so that says to me it's an ATI issue [10:15] hopefully a year from now it'll be fixed :-D [10:15] If you wanted an instant fix then an nvidia card would probably do that. [10:15] how can I rescan artwork for my mythvideo movies? I have some that have the wrong artwork for some reason and hitting 'w' does not update them [10:16] m for menu and then reset the metadata [10:16] hads: is nvidia really that much better? do you know of a card that's < 100$ and has hdmi out [10:16] AFAIK yes it is that much better. [10:16] hads, thanks again, is there a way to get them to pull the images down or do you have to do them 1 by 1? [10:17] Look into jamu.py [10:18] mtrelins: I don't know of card costs as I don't know where you are etc. I'm sure whatever country you are in has a price comparison website or something though. [10:18] http://www.bestbuy.com/site/BFG+-+NVIDIA+GeForce+210+512MB+DDR2+PCI+Express+Graphics+Card/9543461.p?id=1218121950209&skuId=9543461 [10:18] looks like hdmi [10:19] what's this VDPAU thing? [10:19] Check the mythtv wiki, should be on there. [10:20] can you recommend a good deinterlacer for 720x480 [10:20] Not sure [10:28] hads, i hit 'm' but cannot find any option to reset metadata [11:18] !help [11:20] hi there, i got a problem when i want to scan for channels, i cant use the "scan for channels" button in my backend setup. anyone here who can help me? [12:11] hi all. anyone tell me how i play a dvd on my backend from a frontend running on a different machine? === cp is now known as Guest61362 [13:15] hi all. does anyone use pulseaudio with mythbuntu? [13:28] hi guys [13:29] I updated my old (8.04 i belive) mythbuntu to 9.10 yesterday [13:29] after the db update the filenames of the recordings seem to be messed up [13:30] for example [13:30] 1026_20091101001500.mpg exists [13:30] but it is looking for 1026_20091101132803.mpg [13:30] if I symbol link the recording plays OK [13:30] any ideas? [13:43] hi.. [13:44] i have frontech tv tuner card .. is it supported? [13:44] !help [13:49] check the website [14:44] Hi, I'm an Ubuntu translator on Launchpad and I'm interested in translating parts of Mythbuntu. However, I can't find the correct package to translate on Launchpad. All packages I've tried so far aren't configured for translation [14:45] For instance, the Karmic package for the Control Centre cannot be translated [14:59] anyone? [15:10] hmm everyone seems to be idleing :) === cann_ is now known as cann [15:30] !help [15:34] !help [15:34] ok no bot here ? [15:35] cumulus007, i think we need help getting it into a translatable state [15:35] i'm not sure that all of the code is translator friendly atm [15:35] superm1, hmm, that's a pity [15:36] cumulus007, do you know anyone who can help with that? [15:37] I'm afraid not [15:38] I don't know a lot about programming, that's why I prefer translating :) [15:38] two things that solved my frontend issues 1.cairo breaks X with nvidia, and opengl sync with an intel onboard speeds up the video. [15:39] cumulus007, the translatable strings should live in mythbuntu-common actually [15:39] can you see if that portion is available in the launchpad translation stuff? [15:40] I'll have a look [15:41] mythbuntu-common is not set up for translation either [15:41] https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic/+source/mythbuntu-common [16:04] I'm running Mythbuntu 9.10 with the fixes branch. If I try to change e.g. channel visibility through MythWeb, my changes are not saved. Does anyone know what could be the problem? [16:05] you might need to restart mythbackend for them to take effect [16:06] ok will try that [16:10] (sudo restart mythtv-backend) should do it [16:12] superm1: no it didn't help [16:12] and you've restarted the frontend too? [16:16] I uncheck on of the visible checkboxes, and click save. When the page is reloaded, the checkbox is checked again. If I check the database, visible is still 1. [16:16] If I manually set the visible flag in the database to 0, and refresh the webpage, it is displaying the correct info. Without restarting the FE or BE [16:24] oh hm [16:24] then that certainly sounds like some type of bug :) [16:26] I was hoping someone would test it on their system to see if it a bug or only my setup [16:38] hi, i need help with ir homebrew serial receiver, i have config file for my remote, but im not sure about lirc processes running while im not selected any receiver in mythbuntu control centre, because "irw" command dont work. thank for reply === gbutters is now known as gbutters_away === gbutters_away is now known as gbutters === gbutters is now known as gbutters_away === gbutters_away is now known as gbutters [18:07] hi all. anyone tell me how i play a dvd on my backend from a frontend running on a different machine? [18:39] hey, will the new backend be ported to 9.04? [18:52] it's on auto builds [18:52] http://mythbuntu.org/auto-builds [18:52] load that on 9.04 and you'll get the new version [19:08] how to get work homebrew serial receiver in 9.10? thank [19:10] Hello. doe anyone know how I can make my pinnacle usb 70e device work on karmic?It seems like there isn't drivers support.Regards [19:21] has anyone got flgrx running in 9.10? [19:22] from my google foo it seems that the problem was solved in the beta but I still do not see it in the hardware manager :( [19:23] you probably have to have an up to date apt cache for it to be offered by hardware manager [19:23] superm1, I mean into repo. Already have 9.04 backend but the new frontend 9.10 will not work with it [19:23] sebrock, Yeah and that's still on auto builds [19:24] sebrock, you can grab the newer 0.22 backend for 9.04 on the auto builds [19:24] heron, so if you run update manager's update cycle and then reboot, hopefully hardware drivers should offer you fglrx [19:25] hmm I will try after this nights movie ;) [19:25] but it should be in rigth? [19:25] it is available yes [19:26] superm1, I have to add some repo then, it's not in the standard Ubuntu 9.03 repo right? [19:26] and of course your hardware has to still support it. older AMD/ATI graphics hardware doesnt [19:26] thanks, then I will get it working ;) [19:26] sebrock, grab that deb and it will do it all for ya... [19:26] But yes. [19:26] hmm my old 8.04 did [19:27] else I finally have a reason to go and by a nice nvidia card instead of the crappy on board ati/amd chip [19:27] within the last two years they have stopped supporting some hardware [19:27] so it's quite possible [19:28] that unsupported hardware generally works pretty well w/ the open source driver though [19:28] hmm, I had to switch off opengl for playback for now [19:29] if it really is not supported anymore I will have to see if something eith the configuration of the open driver is wring :/ [19:29] wrong [19:30] what's the card? [19:33] radeon X1200 [19:33] at least that is what xorg thinks ;) [19:33] will have to look at the manual for specifics [19:34] looking at /var/log/Xorg alot of stuff goes wrong with the open source driver too [19:34] don't think it works for fglrx [19:34] http://osdir.com/ml/debian-bugs-dist/2009-10/msg01947.html [19:34] so I thought I rather get fglrx working again [19:34] damn [19:34] heron: Please watch your language. [19:35] it's a good excuse to get some nvidia hardware that supports vdpau though [19:35] you'll be greatful you did after you see the results [19:35] yes [19:35] ^^ I hope so [19:35] superm1, I grab the deb from 9.10? How can I automate this to include all myth-backend related stuff? [19:36] sebrock, so you grab that deb that's linked there, install it on 9.04 and it adds the repos / keys/ configures [19:36] then you open up update manager [19:36] and it will offer you upgrades to the myth stuff [19:36] great! [19:36] ... and perhaps I will give the dualhead another shot too [19:37] I got a old 10" screen somewhere that would look awsome in my rack ;) [19:37] anyway, thanks a lot for the info === Seeker` is now known as Guest31767 === Guest31767 is now known as Seeker` [20:05] superm1, my backend runs on a headless server [20:05] maybe it would be best to do a full dist-upgrade [20:50] Hi, can i get some tips for hombrew serial receiver set up? throught mythbuntu gui, or terminal. thanks [21:26] how do i not make the guide show up when entering livetv? [21:35] Not make the guide show up? [21:36] frontend setting [21:37] hads, when you enter live tv, you can either go directly to live tv, or have the guide pop up automatically [21:37] I would guess that is in general frontend settings [21:38] Yeah, that setting is off by default so I assumed one would know how to turn it off if they turned it on :) [21:38] is it off by default in Mythbuntu though? [21:39] Should be [21:39] I think it is [21:39] i'll check where it is after I burn this iso to flash drive [21:39] Unless you guys specifically altered the setting from myth defaults. But I've never noticed it on my installs. [21:41] hads, there are a few things we did (storage groups in 0.22) but I don't think the guide was one of them [21:41] Yeah, that would be an odd one to change. [21:43] mtrelins, in 0.22, in the frontend, the setting is in Utilities/Setup > Setup > TV Settings > Program Guide [21:43] it's on page 1 of that [21:44] ok, time to do a fresh install of karmic [21:44] Seems he already got help in #mythtv-users [21:47] hmm [21:47] so I upgraded to 9.10 from 9.04 [21:47] and now my screen just flickers constantly during boot [21:48] during the runtime / service loading it just flickers as it loads... then goes to a black screen when it finishes -- I've reinstalled X, deleted my xorg.conf... reinstall X... it's a standard onboard intel [21:50] Anyone here have issue adjusting the GUI size for overscan? [21:51] If I set the GUI width to less than the screen width then the XFCE menu bar is always visible, even though I haven't adjusted the GUI height. [22:48] if i want to apply a patch to the mythtv source and repackage, any suggestions or guides that would be useful? [22:48] want to test out CoreAVC on linux performance [22:49] abarbaccia, apt-get source > add patch > push to personal PPA? [22:49] tgm4883: how do i do the last part? [22:49] i've done 1 and 2... [22:50] well, how do i build the package [22:50] https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA [22:50] abarbaccia, ^^ [22:51] abarbaccia, debuild -S -sa [22:53] mythvideo can see the files, open them and attempts to play them [22:53] tgm4883: i might not even have to build it on my machine if the patch applies correctly and i just upload to the ppa [22:53] The videos are frozen [22:53] the only way to get any kind of motion is with fast forward or to keep hitting the play button [22:53]