/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2009/11/02/#kubuntu.txt

EagleScreenhuntz23: you loose your Linux installation?00:01
huntz23well yeah and no00:02
huntz23I lost grub on reinstall of windows00:02
EagleScreendid you install Windows after Linux?00:02
huntz23yes00:02
EagleScreenthen now you only can boot Windows00:02
huntz23correct00:02
EagleScreenyou need a Linux Live CD to repair grub installation00:03
huntz23and I am trying to fix it with the live disk and its not goin so well00:03
EagleScreenyou need to mount the Linux root partition00:03
EagleScreen(in Live enviroment)00:03
huntz23right and apparently me or the disk is having issue..laf00:04
EagleScreenand for this example, I will supose that it is mounted in /media/root00:04
huntz23right00:05
EagleScreenthen you need to reinstall grub with this command: sudo grub-install -root-directory=/media/root '(hd0)'00:05
EagleScreendouble -00:06
EagleScreensudo grub-install --root-directory=/media/root '(hd0)'00:06
EagleScreensorry00:06
huntz23hmmm00:06
EagleScreenthis will install grub files in your Linux root artition and will load grub in MBR00:06
huntz23so 'mount hdb1 /media/root' right00:07
huntz23hdb1 is my linux install00:07
EagleScreen/media/root must be created00:08
huntz23right mkdir /media/root00:08
huntz23ah, I am missing something00:09
EagleScreenany problem?00:10
huntz23yeah its not recognizing my hard drives, I think I missed a command00:10
oscar___can someoen tell me how to stop grub from loading when I start the computer?00:10
EagleScreenare your partitions listed in /dev?00:11
EagleScreenoscar___: do you mean, stop the timer?00:11
huntz23<EagleScreen> yes it does00:13
EagleScreenthen they are detected00:13
EagleScreenwith 'df -h' you can list mounted partitions00:14
huntz23oops my bad might help if I went /dev/hdb1 isntead of hdb100:14
EagleScreenwith 'sudo fdisk -l' you can list all partitions00:14
EagleScreenmount /dev/hdb1 /media/root00:14
fencersbeatngu I just installed fedora in other partition appart from ubuntu, and then recovered my grub, but want to add fedora to that grub00:14
huntz23right and the asterisked one is my linux boot partition right00:14
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EagleScreenfencersbeatngu: read grub wiki page00:15
fencersbeatngulol i tried00:15
MBSTO:O00:16
fencersbeatngu but what is close is adding linux00:16
fencersbeatngu i mean windows00:16
EagleScreenfencersbeatngu: are u using grub2 or grub-legacy?00:18
huntz23<EagleScreen> do I still us sudo grub-install --root-directory=/media/root '(hd0)'00:19
huntz23or is hd0 replaced by hdb1?00:19
EagleScreenit is always '(hd0)'00:21
EagleScreenhd0 means load to MBR00:21
huntz23ok that might have been my mistake00:21
EagleScreensure00:21
kooolanl:)00:21
huntz23ok, brb, let you know if it worked00:21
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KDeskhi, in karmic, every time a new kernel gets instlled, grub2 puts two entry of the same kernel, so with one kernel I have minimum 4 entries (normal, recovery and a  copy of both), also a compy of memtest and all other kernels. Do you know what can I do so that grub doesn't write twice the entry every time?00:23
BsimsI have two problems, I can't get the capslock/numlock lights to come on my keyboard can anyone else confirm, and I can't get kde to ring the actual system bell... I am running Karmic Ubuntu00:25
KooolaNLhey00:27
KooolaNLhow do u make ubuntu 32bit make use of 4gb instead of just 3 (my lappy has 4)00:28
krnlhi00:29
krnlhow can i mount a hd permanently in kubuntu without editinig fstabM00:30
krnl?00:30
dtchenKooolaNL: do you have linux-image-generic-pae installed?00:30
KooolaNLdtchen dont know00:30
KooolaNLi have a fresh install of 9.10 32bit cd  and i did some updates00:30
fencersbeatngu I just installed fedora in other partition appart from ubuntu, and then recovered my grub, but want to add fedora to that grub00:32
alterookrnl: Why the no editing fstab restriction?00:32
krnlalteroo: i put there lines but after reboot, it didn't mount, i guess i do something wrong, and try to do it other way.00:33
KDeskkrnl: which lines do you put?00:34
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krnlKDesk: /dev/sdb1 /root/HD auto relatime,errors=remount-ro 0 100:34
alterookrnl: lets review the lines. Can You pastebin it00:35
carpii_ok so when you say 'no fstab' you mean, you need to find out how to mount it properly, rather than 'i cant use fstab'00:35
Huntz23<EagleScreen>thanks, just another lessons that a few letters can get ya00:35
alterookrnl: You can test it without reboot by the way00:35
krnlcarpii_: you are right :)00:35
krnlalteroo: how can i test it?00:35
alteroosudo mount -a00:35
KDeskkrnl: ah, which file system has it?00:35
krnlKDesk: vfat00:35
krnlfat3200:36
BsimsI have two problems, I can't get the capslock/numlock lights to come on my keyboard can anyone else confirm, and I can't get kde to ring the actual system bell... I am running Karmic Ubuntu00:36
bucketheadworks for me.. Bsims. What type of system?00:36
krnlwith mount -a, it works. dont know what could be that :) i'm going to reboot to check if its really ok, thanks for advices :)00:37
alterooBsims: can the system ring the bell?00:37
Huntz23whats the command to find out which version of Kubuntu your running?00:37
Bsimswhen I click the test system bell button in kde it makes a tone through the headphones not the actuall system bell00:38
KDesklsb_release -a00:38
alterooHuntz23: lsb_release -a or cat /etc/issue00:38
Bsimsalteroo: and echo -e "\a" does nothing00:38
alterooBsims: I'll just make a note that echo \a isn't KDE :)00:39
nomopofomohi  can someone helpme figure out how to install the device manager plasmoid? i can run cmake, make and make install, no errors but i don't know how to actually install the thing!00:39
Bsimsalteroo: I did turn the volume for system speaker to max in alsaconf00:39
Huntz23thanks KDesk and alteroo00:39
Bsimsalteroo: it's the console way of forcing a beep00:39
KDeskBsims for the keyboard light check System Settings, in Keyboard and Mouse00:40
Bsimsalteroo: and my other issue is, minor, but really annoying... I can't get the capslock/numlights to turn on00:40
BsimsKDesk: I did00:40
alteroonomopofomo: You are installing from trunk?00:40
BsimsNo love, and it doesn't work in gnome or wmaker either00:40
nomopofomoalteroo: from source, idk what trunk means00:40
BsimsKDesk: and apport takes ages to gather any info to file a kernel bug report00:40
alterooBsims: Yes I know I"m just saying that if that isn't working either your system speakers arenot hooked up or your system doesn't come with one00:41
KDeskBsims: hmm, in my pc I active that option but the light is off until I press Shift or something like that works. lol00:41
alteroonomopofomo: Trunk is the latest source available00:41
Bsimsalteroo: it worked in jaunty... and I built my machine I know it has one, and it works... it beeps on boot00:41
alterooBsims: Ok well I would say hit up #alsa00:42
krnlre00:42
Bsimsalteroo: that sounds reasonable00:42
nomopofomoalteroo: i downloaded the source from kde-looks.org which i believe is the latest00:42
BsimsI'll kill and restart X too, I just removed pulse so flash would actually work <g>00:42
krnli rebooed the computer, and it didn't mount the HD printed in fstab, however mount -a works. do you have any idea how could this happen? :)00:42
alteroonomopofomo: I don't think it is. wait which device manager are you talking about?00:43
nomopofomoalteroo: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Device+Manager?content=10605100:43
alterookrnl: did you use real tabs ?00:43
krnlhttp://pastebin.com/m73d2a04a00:43
krnlalteroo: sry, i don't exactly know what are real tabs00:43
alterookrnl: there are columns in the /etc/fstab00:44
alteroothe spaces between the entries in the columns did you use spacebar or did you press tab00:44
alteroothey need to be real tabs00:44
krnli check it.00:45
krnlno i used spaces. :)00:46
krnlgoing to retry :)00:46
alteroonomopofomo: Ah I know this one it's in trunk :) they merged it so it comes with KDE by default now00:48
alterooHold on a moment let me look at it00:48
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nomopofomoalteroo: thanks00:50
alteroonomopofomo: Where did you say you had reached?00:50
nomopofomoalteroo: i can run all the way up to make install but then i have no idea how to actually use the plasmoid00:51
alteroonomopofomo: Isn't there a README In the source?00:52
alterooor an INSTALL00:52
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nomopofomoalteroo: neither00:53
alteroonomopofomo: Ok One moment00:53
nikitisSo what's with Coniacal not supporting some software any longer?00:55
nomopofomolike what?00:56
nikitisgcc00:56
alteroonikitis: Huh?00:56
nikitisi'm doing a dist-upgrade and it came up with information saying the company is no longer supporting the following software00:56
alteroonomopofomo: http://www.kde-look.org/help/index.php?type=7000:56
nikitisand it's a few linux packages00:56
nikitisStuff like Cupsddk, gcc, etc00:57
alteroonikitis: They probably mean older versions of gcc00:57
alteroo!info gcc00:57
ubottugcc (source: gcc-defaults (1.82ubuntu2)): The GNU C compiler. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.4.1-1ubuntu2 (karmic), package size 4 kB, installed size 64 kB00:57
nomopofomoalteroo: that doesn't help, i followed that instructions00:57
nikitishmm00:57
alterooIT's there and in main so that's supported :)00:57
nikitisShould be re-worded then00:58
alteroonomopofomo: Log out and back in and see if it's in the list?00:58
nomopofomoalteroo: tried that00:58
alteroonomopofomo: Try in #kde00:59
nomopofomonobody knows01:00
alterooHA ha ok what does it out put do you get a new .dsktop file in the directory?01:01
nomopofomoyeah and a .so file01:02
DoubleD84anyone use cdemu?01:02
alterooWhee ok now comes the fun part to hunt down te other plasmoids and see where they are01:03
Taggnostrhello01:04
nomopofomowhat is the file extension for a plasmoid?01:04
alteroonomopofomo: It's a .desktop01:06
alteroowhich describes the file and where the info for it is01:06
alteroosee /usr/share/kde(4)/applications/plasma/plasmoids01:06
nomopofomoalteroo: omg ok so su -c "make install" works better than sudo make install apparently01:08
nomopofomono clue why01:08
TaggnostrI have kubuntu 9.04 and I'm trying to upgrade to 9.10 but kpackage manager crashes when I click on "continue", and apt-get dist-upgrade doesn't see 9.10, is there any other way to upgrade?01:08
nomopofomoalteroo: sorry01:08
alteroonomopofomo: Wheee :) so it works now?01:08
alteroonomopofomo: su -c is actually root01:08
alteroosudo is not01:08
alterooIt may make a difference to the system/command01:08
nomopofomoi see01:08
alterooTaggnostr: sudo do-release-upgrade01:09
Taggnostralteroo, ok01:09
alterooTaggnostr: you should use that instead of dist-upgrade for the ubuntu family of distros01:10
TaggnostrI've never heard of that command, I'll keep it in mind for the next time, thanks01:11
alterooTaggnostr: it's the server upgrade routine :-)01:13
neversleephello01:14
BluesKajalteroo, that command doesn't edit the sources.list to upgrade to the new version , so the update-manager is the safest method01:14
neversleepi have problem with the madwifi in 9.1001:14
neversleepsomebody help?01:14
alteroohi CPrgmSwR201:15
alterooBluesKaj: Did for me01:15
alteroonomopofomo: joy|?01:15
BluesKajlet's hope you don't have any problems01:15
nomopofomoalteroo: sort of...  the  plasmoid seems to be having some issues01:15
neversleepthe wireless have problem01:16
alterooBluesKaj: please tell Taggnostr about a better method if there is one01:16
Taggnostrnow is probably already too late01:16
alterooneversleep: What kind01:16
BluesKajTaggnostr, update-manager is the safest method01:17
Taggnostrbut I can add the sources manually later01:17
alterooTaggnostr: As long as your hardware it working it's not too late :-)01:17
TaggnostrBluesKaj, does that start the gui?01:17
neversleepalteroo i put madwifi driver for my atheros01:17
neversleepand dont work01:17
nomopofomook time for more questions01:18
nomopofomoi'm having a problem with amarok freezing at 41% of scanning my collection every time01:18
BluesKajTaggnostr, alt+f2 , update-manager01:18
TaggnostrBluesKaj, it's still downloading the things, maybe I can interrupt that and try01:18
neversleepeversleep@neversleep-laptop:~/Public/madwifi-trunk-r4099-20090929$ modprobe ath_pci01:18
neversleepWARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist, it will be ignored in a future release.01:18
neversleepWARNING: Error inserting wlan (/lib/modules/2.6.31-14-generic/net/wlan.ko): Operation not permitted01:18
neversleepFATAL: Error inserting ath_pci (/lib/modules/2.6.31-14-generic/net/ath_pci.ko): Operation not permitted01:18
neversleepneversleep@neversleep-laptop:~/Public/madwifi-trunk-r4099-20090929$01:18
BluesKajTaggnostr, no ,leave it alone ..let it finish01:19
alterooneversleep: which atheros?01:20
Taggnostrso, should I do the update-manager now or later when the do-release-upgrade is done?01:20
neversleepcan help any one with the method activation of madwifi?01:20
neversleepyes alteroo01:20
neversleepEthernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR5001 Wireless Network Adapter01:21
BluesKajTaggnostr,. let the do-release-upgrade finish , you may not need update-manager01:21
alterooneversleep: try sudo modprobe auth_pci01:21
TaggnostrBluesKaj, ok01:21
alterooBluesKaj: can you do update-manager -d ?01:21
neversleepneversleep@neversleep-laptop:~/Public/madwifi-trunk-r4099-20090929$ sudo modprobe auth_pci01:21
neversleep[sudo] password for neversleep:01:21
neversleepWARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist, it will be ignored in a future release.01:21
neversleepFATAL: Module auth_pci not found.01:21
alterooneversleep: try sudo modprobe ath_pci01:22
alteroosorry01:22
harrisonHi, is there a command to find information about a specific file in /dev. Say I want to find out information about /dev/sda1 is there a command like 'information /dev/sda1'01:22
harrisonOriginally I was trying to find out the file for the device listed in lsusb, so say I plug a usb drive in, I run lsusb and then I can find out the /dev/sdaxx address for it01:22
BluesKajalteroo, update-manager -d is for development versions only01:22
alterooBluesKaj: Well that's when I normally update :)01:24
neversleepi need a right method to activate it for sure01:24
neversleepi am in google 6 hours01:24
neversleep:/01:24
alterooharrison: If it's mounted just ype mount01:24
alteroo it will tell you the device and where it's mounted to01:24
harrisonWhat if it isn't mounted, alteroo?01:25
alterooneversleep: did sudo moodprobe ath_pci work ?01:25
alterooharrison: it's likely the latest sd device01:25
BluesKajalteroo, well you'll have to wait for a month for lucid (lunatic) lynx01:25
neversleepi right what the terminal say01:25
alterooBluesKaj: Lynx are a little lunatic01:25
neversleepneversleep@neversleep-laptop:~/Public/madwifi-trunk-r4099-20090929$ sudo modprobe auth_pci01:25
neversleep[sudo] password for neversleep:01:25
neversleepWARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist, it will be ignored in a future release.01:25
neversleepFATAL: Module auth_pci not found.01:25
alterooneversleep: paste bin it01:26
BluesKajthat's just my opinion, alteroo01:26
alterooneversleep: No that's auth_pci01:26
alterooneversleep: try sudo moodprobe ath_pci01:26
alterooBluesKaj: They are feline so the moon does affect them :-)01:26
harrisonalteroo: Is there a way to know 100% correctly rather than just figuring out the most likely device?01:26
neversleepneversleep@neversleep-laptop:~/Public/madwifi-trunk-r4099-20090929$ sudo modprobe ath_pci01:27
neversleepWARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist, it will be ignored in a future release.01:27
alterooharrison: Sure but that's more a question for #hal01:27
alterooneversleep: You should be ok now01:27
alterooBluesKaj: What makes it lunatic in your opinion?01:27
neversleepno wireless network found :/01:27
harrisonalteroo: I'm not sure that I would know what to ask over there to be honest01:27
neversleepi have done this and later nothing happen :/01:28
BluesKajalteroo, dunno , I just think it sounds better01:29
BluesKaj:)01:29
neversleepalteroo atheros with madwifi you have?01:29
alterooharrison: How can you knowing information about a device find out which dev file it's associated with01:29
alterooBluesKaj: I find it funny that it will be KTS01:29
alterooLTS01:29
harrisonI'll give that a go, thanks for your help alteroo01:30
neversleepi must do restart?01:31
alterooneversleep: no01:31
nomopofomohaving a problem with amarok :( it freezes at 41% of scanning my library all the time01:31
alteroo!atheros01:31
ubottuWireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs01:31
alteroonomopofomo: #amarok01:31
alterooThey would have better diagnostics01:31
neversleepall my multimedia works and i have problem with madwifi01:32
neversleepis ironic?01:32
neversleepyes it is01:32
nomopofomoalteroo: yeah but so may more people in here ;)01:32
The_JourneyI need help, amorak doesn't make any sound when I try to play a file, but I know my sound works because I can listen to videos on youtube. Can someone help me?01:32
neversleepupdate the codecs01:33
The_Journeyhow?01:33
alterooThe_Journey: instal libxine1-ffmpeg01:35
neversleepalteroo i want to kiss you dude01:35
neversleepyou sent me lucky01:35
alterooneversleep: did you read the wifi docs?01:35
neversleepno ok01:35
alterooneversleep: works?01:35
neversleepyeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah01:36
alterooneversleep: ok fine but on the cheek01:36
neversleepat preferences i must be put madwifi driver01:36
alterooah right01:36
neversleepand ath0 in wlan001:36
neversleepyeah01:36
neversleepwoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow01:36
neversleepafter restart it will works?01:37
alterooneversleep: No clue :-) did you blacklist the old drivers?01:37
neversleepa think so01:37
neversleepi think so01:37
neversleepcan i do it again now?01:38
neversleepthe ath5k scares me01:38
neversleepi have done it black list01:38
alterooneversleep: reboot and let us see what it does01:38
neversleepi am start the reboot01:40
neversleepthe god with me01:40
BenPABlueskaj: I have not resolved my grub issue in 9.10 but have filed a manual bug report in LaunchPad01:43
BenPABlueskaj: supergrub did not work but there is information under Ubuntu grub201:44
JevonSo, the only way for me to move back to 8.04 is a clean reinstall right?01:45
alterooJevon: Only easy way01:46
Jevonfigures01:46
BluesKajBenPA, yeah, I just saw that supergrub's latest live cd isn't very good01:46
jeponghello... what is the -dbg package for kopete and konversation?01:46
alterooJevon: What is the rproblem ?01:46
Jevonwell, I finally got stuff to somewhat the way i like... then i tried to run blender01:46
jepongwant to report about the crash i encountered01:47
Jevonand I use blender almost every day01:47
BenPABlueskaj: there are a ton of issues with grub and the new grub201:47
The_Journeyalteroo, amarok still doesn't make any sound after i installed that01:47
alterooThe_Journey: You closed it and restarted it?01:47
BluesKajBenPA, so you're on your jaunty install now ?01:48
The_Journeyalteroo, yea01:48
BenPABlueskaj: no, still on livecd Knoppix01:48
alterooThe_Journey: Ok get http://www.vorbis.com/music/Mists_of_Time-4T.ogg01:49
BenPABlueskaj: I also have a PC with Linux Mint that is working01:49
alterooPlay that and see if you have sound01:49
alterooJevon: I'm waiting on the caveat01:49
The_Journeyyea that plays01:49
JevonI will give KDE4 one final test by running a memtest to ensure all 2gb are working up to par01:49
CPrgmSwR2hey alteroo01:49
The_Journeyalteroo, I can hear sound from that link01:49
alterooThe_Journey: it's your codecs then01:49
alteroowhat are you trying to play ?01:50
The_Journeyalteroo, what is a codec?01:50
BluesKajBenPA, have you tried the error 15 fixes on the net , there are quite a few how to's for grub, but not much for grub201:50
The_Journeyan mp3 file01:50
alterooThe_Journey: you installed libxine1-ffmpeg ?01:50
BenPABlueskaj: yes, I have been at this for 2 days now01:50
The_Journeyyea01:50
JevonWhen rotating one of my high-poly files, my framrate dropped to 2/s01:50
alterooJevon: What's wrong with blender?01:50
alterooJevon: Ah .. What video card?01:50
alteroohow are you CPrgmSwR2 ?01:51
JevonATI Radeon x127001:51
CPrgmSwR2alteroo: okay01:51
alterooThe_Journey: A codec is what allows us to put audio and video information in a small file and then play it back01:51
BenPABlueskaj: this is the worse problem I have had to date .... usually you guys can help right away01:51
alterooThe_Journey: it stands for code and decode.01:51
jeponghello... what is the -dbg package for kopete and konversation?01:52
CPrgmSwR2alteroo: been trying to get over this illness, Although its not confirmed, I have a high reason to believe I just got through fighting the swine flu01:52
CPrgmSwR2konversation is an awsome irc client01:52
alteroojepong: kdelibs-dbg ?01:52
BluesKajBenPA, yeah , it's troublesome , usually ppl get past the grub issue with just a few commnds and grub-updates01:52
alterooJevon: Do you have desktop effects on ?01:52
The_Journeyalteroo, should I install GStreamer?01:53
alterooThe_Journey: try log out and back in01:53
CPrgmSwR2is it prehaps something like kdenetwork-dbg?01:53
BenPABlueskaj: If I could get to someway of running the commands I think it would be ok01:53
jepongalteroo: thank you!01:53
JevonI turned them off, might do a disable restart01:54
alterooJevon: hmm ok01:54
BluesKajBenPA, there has to be a fix and some of our grub and install guru's take weekends off , but they should be back tomorrow. ...I hope.01:54
CPrgmSwR2I have also been battling a sound issue with the new release of kubuntu01:55
BenPABlueskaj: I can wait ...01:55
CPrgmSwR2Discoverd I have sound through my headphones, but I don't have any sound through my speakers.01:55
BluesKajwell tv time with wifey ...BBL01:56
BenPABlueskaj: thanks for your help01:57
asobi how can i get konqueror to show details when i hover mouse over mp3 files like kde3 where it displays the mp3 tag?01:58
warlock85hello all I just install kubuntu on my laptop and I am trying to use the VPN ItsHidden how do I do this?01:59
warlock85hello? anybody?02:03
warlock85can anybody answer my question?02:04
asobijaunty? karmic?02:06
warlock85kubuntu 9.1002:06
asobimy guess is you have to add the nm widget02:06
Lord_Drachenblutwarlock85: i have been trying to get it going with kvpnc with out much luck02:06
warlock85Network Manager wiget?02:07
* asobi has jaunty02:07
asobiwith kde402:07
asobithat's my guess02:08
Lord_Drachenblutasobi: I would have imagined that kvpnc would be the way to go but i could be mistaken.  I'm using wicd on the laptop since i have had constant issue with the builtin network manager02:09
asobiyes, nm had A LOT of problems, wicd seems to be the best way to go for most people02:09
asobiyou should also know that i am really a kubuntu newb... ~_~02:09
kai87689Can anyone help me with new install of Kubuntu, 9.10 broke bluetooth what happened ?02:13
CPrgmSwR2lovely02:15
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Huntz23what is the latest LTS ubuntu?02:16
kai87689CPrgmSwR2: Yeh it's great ! No problems in 8.10 and 9.04 might just go back to 9.04 then  ; )02:18
warlock85Oh My Gosh someone needs to create a VPN for linux this is driving me crazy!!!02:19
The_Journeyhow do I install driver for my soundcard? It's C-Media CMI873802:19
Huntz23anyone in here familiar with differences between LTS and non-LTS02:24
Kage_JittaiHuntz23: yes02:25
Kage_JittaiLTS = Long term support02:25
Huntz23yes02:25
denelgde russkiy narod? :)02:25
Huntz23I am upgrading from EOL, with was a non LTS02:25
Kage_Jittaimeans any distro that is LTS is supported (bug fixes and security fixes for 5 years)02:25
Kage_Jittaiwhile Non-LTS is only support for 1 year (I think)02:26
Huntz23so its an adventure for sure, coming from 6.1002:26
JevonI upgraded from 8.04, and more than likely going back02:26
Jevonit is a difference though02:26
Huntz23but what I am after is once get into an LTS will I be fine there if I so decide till the next LTS?02:27
Kage_JittaiHuntz23: 8.10 will be supported until 2013 (IIRC)02:27
CPrgmSwR2hopefully 10-04 well fix many of the issues 9.10 created02:27
Huntz23or is there differences in operations from non-LTS to LTS?02:27
Jevonnot really, you just get more updates for longer02:28
Kage_JittaiHuntz23: no, the only difference is the software is older02:28
Kage_Jittailess features02:28
Huntz23and 8.10 is the most recent LTS?02:28
Kage_Jittaiyes02:28
Jevonare 8.04 and 8.10 virtually identical02:29
Kage_JittaiJevon: no02:29
Jevonwhat did they change between them02:29
Taggnostralteroo, BluesKaj, the upgrade ended, but now I'm having some problem with the wireless connection02:29
The_Journeyhow do I install driver for my soundcard? It's C-Media CMI873802:29
Taggnostrif I click on the tray icon there I can see the access point but when I click on it nothing happens02:30
Taggnostrand the tray icon keep saying 'unavailable'02:30
JevonI also have wireless problems02:31
TaggnostrI don't know if it's related to kdewallet though, when it started it appeared in a different window, and then it asked me the password for the wireless instead of reading it from the wallet02:32
JevonI never had any problems after I disabled/uninstalled kwallet02:33
alteroo!sound | The_Journey02:34
ubottuThe_Journey: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP302:34
Taggnostrif I click on the tray icon it shows the name of the access point, and when I click on it I can see for a fraction of second "activating.." appearing after that and then it disappear and return as it was before02:35
Taggnostris there a way to connect from the terminal?02:35
IzinucsTaggnostr: do you have wep, wpa or is ssid off on your router?02:36
The_Journeyalteroo, where can I go to K Menu?02:37
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TaggnostrI don't remember exactly what it is, but there's a password and before the upgrade it used to work, the password was stored in kdewallet too02:37
EbolaVirus!ops02:37
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IzinucsTaggnostr: try disabling all router encryption/protection and make sure the ssid broadcast is turned on.. then connect again.. I'll be it will work.. once connected reset a password in the router and do the same in kubuntu02:38
EbolaVirus!ops02:38
IzinucsEbolaVirus: why you calling for ops?02:40
EbolaVirusto get banned duh02:40
EbolaVirus!ops02:40
ubottuHelp! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) Riddell, Tm_T, tsimpson, jpds, seth_k, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, genii, trappist, crimsun, seth, DBO, nixternal, PriceChild, Pici, jussi01, ikonia, Mamarok, ryanakca or maco02:40
EbolaVirusban me riddell02:41
Riddelltwonkle02:41
Izinucsthnx02:41
DragnslcrMmmkay02:41
Lord_Drachenblutso why would someone try to get banned?02:42
JevonI know people like that, just on a more social server02:43
Macrophage!ops02:43
ubottuHelp! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) Riddell, Tm_T, tsimpson, jpds, seth_k, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, genii, trappist, crimsun, seth, DBO, nixternal, PriceChild, Pici, jussi01, ikonia, Mamarok, ryanakca or maco02:43
JontheEchidnaa bit late there Macrophage? ;-)02:44
Macrophagewhat?02:44
Jevonso you changed your nick and came back?02:44
Lord_Drachenblutthat's the second dumbest thing I have seen all day02:44
MacrophageI am part of the immune system02:44
JontheEchidnaoh, hmm. same guy. Should have seen the connection02:45
MacrophageI am looking for a penguin named tux anyone seen him?02:45
JevonDrachenblut, come on over to the SWC IRC server. That would be almost normal behavior02:45
MacrophageI have antibodys ready to throw at the fucking retarted mascot02:45
Jevon10, 9, 8...02:46
Riddellmeh, no freenode staff on02:46
Fusion64hello,I Finished My kubuntu Download 5 minutes ago,How can i ensure that my iso is complete?02:47
Jordan_U!md5 | Fusion6402:47
ubottuFusion64: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows02:47
Fusion64can i repair It if it has some problems ?02:48
Fusion64Thanks,I've compared the checksums and there was no problem.02:53
postfuturistIf I open Dolphin and click on "Volume (ntfs)" my Windows partition gets mounted at /media/disk, is there a way to get it to mount automatically on boot?02:54
Fusion64Anybody tried kubuntu 9.10 64 bit with Wubi?02:58
IzinucsFusion64: you gotta be running Win 7 or another 64 bit system03:04
Fusion64No. i'm Running Vista 32 bit . i was reading the wubi F.A.Q and i didnt see anything about the thing that you told me.03:07
veritosWhy is kdelibs5 called that when it's really version 4?03:08
Fusion64If you are unsure of this (like me) i suggest you search about it on google.03:08
Fusion64veritos:Search about it03:10
veritosFusion64, looking03:10
veritosgoogle sucks of late, though03:10
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veritossince they started their 'ignore my search operators' stuff03:11
alterooveritos: It's always one version ahead03:16
alteroothe kdelibs in KDE3 was kdelibcs4c203:16
veritosalteroo, yeah, i noticed, i'm just trying to figure out why.03:16
veritosdo we keep it that way to make upgrading happy?03:16
veritos('we' includes debian too, apparently)03:17
Huntz23updateing fun03:20
Huntz23oi, and typo03:20
Huntz23Question, I am upgrading and kde background comes up with script allterations in the file03:23
Xcelljust loaded all and the kitchen sink.. everything works nicely  but... audacious will not play shoutcast.. is there a lib missing?03:24
* MaartenLx tries apt-get install kitchen-sink03:25
Xcelllol03:25
Xcellit has purified drinking water03:26
webbb82ok i need a little help  i got kde and gnome installed but i think i missed a file when i installed kde  when i try to login it will login and everything works but the screen is black   besides the apps running i can see,  and if i do plasma-desktop the desktop will apear then crash and go back to black03:27
Huntz23here is the passte bin that accompanies my question   http://pastebin.com/d4de079fb03:27
webbb82i had kubuntu netbook installed but i took it off and installed the niormal kubuntu and then this  happened03:28
Xcellif someone doesnt help im calling my mom.03:28
Huntz23is there an apt-get for hot tub?03:28
JontheEchidnawebbb82: try uninstalling kubuntu-netbook-default-settings03:28
webbb82JontheEchidna, its already uninstalled just checked03:29
JontheEchidnahmm03:29
webbb82i think plasma keeps crashin03:29
webbb82cause i can hit alt f2 and the runner will open and kopete will show  but the desktop isnt there03:30
SJrDo I have another option for Wireless management besides Network manager it seems to be very broken in Karmic, I can't connect to anything.03:31
alteroowebbb82: open konsole and run plasma-desktop03:32
alteroo you should get the reason it crashed03:32
webbb82i did that in alt f2 and the desktop poped up and then went away rite after03:32
carpii_3:30 am with one cigarette left03:33
webbb82im in gnome rite now03:33
carpii_how will i survive the night :(((((03:33
alteroowebbb82: I know that's why I said run it in konsole03:33
alteroo ok fine run it in gnome-terminal03:33
alteroocarpii_: By sleeping03:33
* carpii_ sobs03:33
webbb82ok03:33
carpii_i think youre right03:33
Huntz23question I got a message during upgrade about my background, here is the paste bin http://pastebin.com/d4de079fb03:34
webbb82ok03:34
webbb82invalid path?03:35
webbb82QGraphicsGridLayout::itemAt: invalid index 103:35
webbb82is there a way to find out what depends im missing03:36
webbb82alteroo, any ideas?03:39
XiellaHow do I open .xlsx files in Open Office 3/Karmic?  Double clicking doesn't work, neither does File>open in Calc...03:39
webbb82apt-get -f install  installed these The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:03:40
webbb82  libgda-4.0-common python-gdl python-gtkspell python-gtkmozembed libgda-4.0-403:40
webbb82  python-eggtrayicon python2.5-minimal libdb4.6 python-gksu2 libgdl-1-303:40
webbb82  libgdl-1-common03:40
billet75has anyone configured a geforce 210 carsd03:40
Huntz23xcel files are database files03:42
Huntz23so try opening with database03:42
buckaroohello03:42
buckaroosomebody can help me03:43
buckarooi need to probe my apache server03:43
buckarooeeeeeyyyyy03:43
XiellaThanks Huntz23 I'll try that.03:43
Huntz23np, hope it helps03:43
buckaroosomebody can help?03:44
buckarooi´m from Argentina03:44
XiellaHuntz23 - I know nothing about databases but it asks to select an existing database from a list of about 8 options - there's no option to open just an ordinary file.03:44
buckarooi install apache server03:45
Huntz23did you right click on the file you are trying to open?03:45
Huntz23in the menu you should see "open with"03:46
Huntz23click open with and look for open office.org database03:46
mm_202what's the new knotes replacement called?03:47
buckaroomm_202 can you helpme?03:48
mm_202buckaroo: with?  I didnt see your question.03:48
buckaroois only a litle thing03:48
XiellaHuntz23 - Trying that now, thanks03:49
buckarooi need test my apache server03:49
Huntz23k03:49
mm_202buckaroo: okay03:49
XiellaHuntz23 - Doesn't work.  No errors, just nothing happens03:49
buckarooif you can test my ip: http://190.183.17.151:1300/03:50
mm_202buckaroo: Apache/2.2.8 (Ubuntu) Server at 190.183.17.151 Port 130003:50
Huntz23no bouncing cursor, or hourglass jsut nothing?03:50
mm_202yep, it comes up with a listing with 3 files.03:50
XiellaHuntz23 Nope, neither of those, just nothing.03:51
buckarooit works?03:51
mm_202buckaroo: yes03:51
buckarooand this link? http://buckaroo.noip.es:1300/03:51
mm_202if I open index2.html I get the usual 'It works!'03:51
mm_202buckaroo: that works as well.03:52
buckaroook! thank´s my friend,,,03:52
mm_202No problem.03:52
webbb82is there any temp file that stored all the terminal command and stuff go03:52
webbb82some temp03:52
buckarooi use ubuntu in Argentina03:52
buckaroothanks mm_20203:53
Huntz23ha, mm_202, knotes = Desktop sticky notes03:55
Huntz23Xiella, lookin03:56
mm_202Huntz23: heh, I was hoping there was a better replacement.  The desktop notes are pretty, but not very useful.03:56
XiellaThanks :)03:56
Huntz23lol, hey can you peak at somethin for me, I got a message upgrading, http://pastebin.com/d4de079fb what you think?03:56
webbb82gthis is what i get  http://pastebin.com/m3e01434003:58
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Huntz23xiella it looks like some hoop jumping as it xlsx is a microsoft pain in the arse04:01
Huntz23I did come across a converter possibly04:02
XiellaHuntz23: oh dear heh04:02
XiellaHuntz23: Yeah?04:02
LordHawke13Good evening Ubuntu users of the world!!04:02
Huntz23http://www.oooforum.org/forum/viewtopic.phtml?p=27348704:02
Huntz23well apparently office 2007 isnt playin nice with the open office team04:03
XiellaAh right04:03
XiellaHuntz23: hah, yeah.  I think I came across that too but I'm scared of apt-get in konsole for something that isn't in Kpackagekit04:03
Huntz23what ubuntu are you on?04:04
XiellaKarmic (kde 4)04:04
at133Hi, I just installed kubuntu 9.04. I would like to change my shortcut keys to mirror those of windows. Back when KDE had kcontrol there was a setting for this, but I can't find it in the new system settings. Is there still a way to do this?04:05
LordHawke13#ubuntu04:05
LordHawke13Aww shit. . .04:05
Huntz23Xiella it may be the only way04:08
at133For clarification, I know that I can change the shortcut keys one by one, but there used to be a way to automatically change them.04:09
XiellaHuntz23: I see... Weird though, in the oo.o help files it says it can open .xlsx/docx formats (and convert to xls/doc)04:10
Huntz23funny that its not part of the new open office suite04:10
XiellaHuntz23: Yeah I thought it was odd too04:10
XiellaHuntz23: hmm, can't find what I mentioned earlier about docx being supported in the help file, maybe I read it somewhere else.04:12
Huntz23open office 3?04:12
XiellaYes, Openoffice 3.1.104:13
XiellaAh, I found the spot in the help file I was looking for.  Microsoft Office > opening Microsoft documents.04:13
XiellaSays it opens .docx, .xlsx and .pptx in their respective openoffice programs.04:14
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XiellaAnyway thanks for trying, let me know if you come up with anything.04:15
XiellaAfk a bit.04:15
Huntz23k04:15
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Huntz23holy homer simpson moment 'doh!'04:17
webbb82when i login to kde plasma desktop will crash  http://pastebin.com/m3e014340  this is the error when i do plasma-desktop in the terminal    but also in synaptic   plasma-desktop isnt there at all04:17
Huntz23Xiella: try right click, open with, Open office spreadsheet04:18
Huntz23brb04:18
Shaan7_Installed Kubuntu Karmic yesterday. My Amarok 2.2.0 has the Equalizer option disabled. Using the Xine backend. What might be wrong?04:20
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Huntz23back04:23
Huntz23http://pastebin.com/d4de079fb anyone ahve an opinion on this04:26
webbb82 when i login to kde plasma desktop will crash  http://pastebin.com/m3e014340  this is the error when i do plasma-desktop in the terminal    but also in synaptic   plasma-desktop isnt there at all04:27
kalpmy root partition of 10gb had 8 gb free space but as i have gone on upgrading, from 8.1 to 9.04 and now 9.1 i have only 2.5gb free. what can be taking up space and how to i free it?04:27
Taggnostrkalp, you can delete the old kernel images04:29
kalphow?04:29
kalpTaggnostr: how?04:29
TaggnostrI don't remember exactly, iirc you have to use dpkg and grep to see how many images do you have and then some other command to delete them04:30
Taggnostrkalp: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2007-March/110288.html04:31
Taggnostrkalp, also https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2007-March/110299.html04:31
webbb82why cant i find plasma-desktop in synaptic04:32
Huntz23Xiella: you there04:33
zoeHi, I just re-installed with kubuntu 9.10, and now half of my sound breaks when I view a flash video. Can anyone point me in the right direction?04:33
XiellaHuntz23: On my mac now but I'm here too04:33
XiellaHuntz23: I tried rightclicking > Spreadsheet but that didn't work either, same lack of response04:33
Huntz23argh04:33
XiellaHuntz23: :(04:34
Huntz23damn that microsoft office04:34
* Xiella agrees completely with Huntz2304:34
Huntz23did you download that file04:35
Huntz23if so can I get the link so I can see it?04:36
Xiellaodf-converter-integrator?04:36
Huntz23no your .xlsx file04:36
XiellaOh, hmm, it was in my gmail.  Not sure how to upload.04:37
webbb82does  anyone know why when i log into kde i can still hear sounds but the desktop is black   i think plasma-desktop keeps crashin cause when i did plasma-desktop in krunner  the desktop will show up then crash again04:37
XiellaI can email it somewhere if that's easier?04:37
Huntz23right click on my name in the the list there should be a send file04:37
XiellaOhh okay yep let me do that now.04:38
Huntz23rgr04:38
XiellaHmm, weird, can't do it.  I'm using Quassel, doesn't have the option to send stuff04:39
Huntz23ok, mhuntington25@hotmail.com04:39
XiellaOk gonna quickly forward it to you.  Someone's at my door - will afk a while04:39
Huntz23k04:39
zoeHi, I just re-installed with kubuntu 9.10, and now half of my sound breaks when I view a flash video. Can anyone point me in the right direction?04:42
trampelanyone else notice that there's no option for System->Administration with kubuntu 9.10? ...and/or how can we get it back?04:43
kalpTaggnostr: i am freeing 350 mb with 3 kernel removals04:44
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kalpTaggnostr: wat are restricted modules and headers, can i remove them04:44
Guest59138someone speak spanish?04:45
TaggnostrI don't know, but you could try something like apt-get autoremove to remove unused packages04:45
Taggnostr!es04:45
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.04:45
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Huntz23Xiella: I opened it, right clicked on it, went to open with, clicked on spreadsheet, and it opened in calc04:47
XiellaHuntz23: That's good for you and crappy for me04:47
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XiellaHuntz23: Wonder why mine won't work...04:47
Huntz23and I am runnin office 2.304:47
XiellaHuntz23: Wow04:47
Huntz23so it should work ofr you04:47
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Huntz23yea I am in the process of upgrading04:48
Huntz23oooo, I got an idea04:48
XiellaHuntz23: haha, cool04:48
XiellaHuntz23: Yeah?04:49
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zoeHi, I just re-installed with kubuntu 9.10, and now half of my sound breaks when I view a flash video. How can I fix this?04:53
webbb82ok i think i figured out why when i login i only see a black screen but my dock is still visable with all black around it      plasma desktop keeps crashin04:55
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eatThisAndDieguys, I need to recover my data from a hard disk, where my home is encrypted04:57
eatThisAndDieI'm looking at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory for a guide on that04:57
eatThisAndDieand i remember the password that I set to encrypt the home, but it doesn't seem to work,04:58
eatThisAndDieanyone can tell me whats the default encryption method used? is it AES 16 bit?04:58
zoe_is there anyone here who is familiar with sound issues?05:01
webbb82c an anyone help i cant get plasma desktop to work  i get a black screen with working apps05:05
webbb82do i need kdebase?05:06
eatThisAndDiewebb82: has it always been like that? have u tried restarting plasma?05:08
eatThisAndDiewebbb82 ^^05:08
webbb82ya i just installed kde in karmic koala and the first login everythin is black but i can still do alt f2 and see the krunner window    and if i do plasma-desktop in krunner the destop will show up for a split second then crash again05:10
eatThisAndDiewebbb82 open up a terminal, type `killall plasma` and then `plasma`05:11
webbb82im im gnome rite now05:12
eatThisAndDiewebbb82, then you'll have to login to KED05:12
eatThisAndDieKDE05:12
webbb82ok brb05:12
nomopofomookay so i just downloaded mysql-client... how do i run it?05:13
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webbb82ok im in kde now and the screen still black but i can see open windows that how im talkin now05:16
webbb82brian@netbook:~$ plasma05:16
webbb82plasma: command not found05:16
webbb82i think its a d-bus error05:17
vitamin-carrothowdy folkes05:18
vitamin-carrotis there a known issue with kpackagekit?05:18
C00LARR0wis there a way to do encryption of the hd during an install of ubuntu?05:19
eatThisAndDienomopofomo: type mysql05:24
eatThisAndDiewebbb82 try /usr/bin/plasma05:25
eatThisAndDieand make sure you have the 'kubuntu-desktop' package installed05:25
eatThisAndDiei asume you intalled ubuntu, and want to try out KDE?05:25
vitamin-carrotmy Kpackagekit in Kubuntu 9.10 isnt displaying anything i search for05:29
Huntz23holy crap05:29
Huntz23xiella?05:29
vitamin-carrotis it a known issue?05:30
XiellaHuntz23? My fiance is using the computer at the moment - did you think of something though?05:30
Huntz23well before I had a mini meltdown yeah05:30
XiellaEep, heh05:30
Huntz23I converted its to .ods for you05:31
XiellaOohh! thank you :)05:31
Huntz23did you et a DCC message?05:31
rohanis there any decent video player for kubuntu/kde 4.3.2 that supports displaying subtitles *below* the video, like kaffeine 0.8.x did? kaffeine 1.0pre and dragon player don't support subtitles, smplayer doesn't display them below the video.05:31
rohanalso, smplayer subs aren't as beautiful as kaffeine. and using kaffeine-kde3 on kde4 stutters while displaying subs05:31
Huntz23er, et=get05:31
rohanref - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=91062805:31
XiellaHuntz23: a DCC message? was that to me?05:32
Huntz23yes05:32
XiellaHuntz23: nope, no message of any sort05:32
XiellaHuntz23 - gotta go, thanks for everything anyway05:32
Huntz23hmmm, I will email it05:32
XiellaHuntz23: Thanks very much :)05:33
Huntz23np05:33
XiellaHuntz23: logging now, see you round.  and thanks again!05:33
Huntz23yep05:33
Huntz23laterz05:33
vitamin-carrotWait05:35
vitamin-carrotXiella05:35
vitamin-carrot:(05:35
vitamin-carrotawww a fellow kiwi05:35
vitamin-carrotso would anyone know why my KPackageKit isnt displaying anything? ... I have checked the software sources and everything05:36
FireCrotchvitamin-carrot: Try running sudo kpackagekit from a terminal and see if you get any useful output05:36
vitamin-carrotdnake05:37
vitamin-carrothrm05:38
vitamin-carrotlooks like its not calling from wallet nor is it asking for my pw05:38
vitamin-carrotand a whole bunch of erros for uid05:39
vitamin-carrotand its just halted05:40
vitamin-carrotlol05:40
rodenskyhello ppl - was here yesterday but lost something here - what's the command for upgrading 9.04 -> 9.10 instead of doing so through upgrade mamanger?05:40
zoe_rodensky: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade05:42
rodenskyyersterday someone nicknamed imad_ gave me other command, is that the command for sure?05:43
rodensky(i'm kind of newbie to linux...)05:43
eatThisAndDierodensky: is it sudo aptitude dist-upgrade?05:44
rodenskyyes05:44
rodenskythink so05:44
eatThisAndDiethere's bound to be one for apt-get too.05:44
eatThisAndDiebut you need to change yout /etc/apt/souces.list to karmic from jaunty05:44
FireCrotchaptitude dist-upgrade will NOT upgrade you from jaunty to karmic05:44
FireCrotchChanging your sources.list like that is not recommended05:45
FireCrotchAt least, it hasn't been for a long time now05:45
rodenskythe source list is already updated, the upgrade is half way through in the upgrade manager but from some unknown reason it's been going on like this from the 29th05:45
FireCrotchrodensky: try sudo do-release-upgrade05:46
zoe_man page says dist-upgrade05:46
FireCrotchrodensky: So your update is basically completely stalled?05:46
Huntz23you need ot finish the upgrade then05:46
Huntz23I just had mine stall out today05:46
Huntz23pc got shut down during upgrade05:47
rodenskyHuntz23: it's going on from the 29th and it had several  disconnetions05:47
rodenskyi never even got to the upgrade itself because the package download is sooo slow and full of problems...05:48
Huntz23so it was still downlaoding?05:48
zoe_can anyone help me with a pulseaudio problem?05:48
Huntz23hhmmmm05:48
FireCrotchrodensky: Well, you might be in for a rough ride, but you should be able to make it through by doing sudo apt-get dist-upgrade then05:48
FireCrotchI once managed to finish an install that crashed on me due to a failed CD drive this way05:49
rodenskyReading package lists... Done // Building dependency tree // Reading state information... Done // Calculating upgrade... Done // 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.05:49
rodenskyany other idea?05:49
Huntz23i had all the packages downloaded, and tried sudo aptitude upgrade, but it gave me and error and told me to restart dpkg05:50
eatThisAndDiedi you do a `apt-get update` first?05:50
rodenskynope05:50
eatThisAndDiejust to be safe, try that first.05:50
rodenskyupdating now05:51
rodenskydone05:51
Huntz23I see, yea dpkg configure wont work without actually having hte packages will it...hehe05:51
eatThisAndDieHuntz23 is `upgade` really what you want? not 'dist-upgrade`05:51
Huntz23oh, mine is a special kind of mess..lol05:52
eatThisAndDiehah. ok.05:52
rodenskythe update is done, tried dist-upgrade and yet same problem05:52
Huntz23I ahve been upgrading from edgy05:52
Huntz23I am up to gutsy05:52
rodensky"0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded."05:52
Huntz23Release:        7.10 Codename:       gutsy05:54
rodenskycould be that the problem is that i already started the upgrade with the upgrade mamanger?05:54
eatThisAndDierodensky: is the upgrade manager still running?05:55
Huntz23I am what 3 distros behind yet?05:55
rodenskyno05:55
FireCrotchrodensky: That may be a part of the problem, yes05:55
FireCrotchrodensky: are you sure that /etc/apt/sources.list has karmic repos in it?05:55
rodenskyi stoped the upgrade via the manager and closed it before i opened the termianl05:55
rodensky*terminal05:55
rodenskylet me check it again, last time it had karmic repos05:56
rodenskynow it doesn't :O05:56
rodenskyi have ghosts in my pc!!05:57
rodensky:)05:57
rodenskythe thing is, now i have even less repos then what i had before i tried to upgrade... :(05:57
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FireCrotchrodensky: do you have a backup of your sources.list?05:58
rodenskynope.. :\05:58
FireCrotchrodensky: well, did you have any third-party repos?05:59
rodenskyi liked windows because everything was much simpler... if it doesn't work, no way in hell it will have any problems...05:59
rodenskywhat do you men by third party?05:59
rodenskyi had multiverse and such, and now i have only "partner"06:00
FireCrotchrodensky: unoffical repositories, such as those for wine or any of the PPAs06:00
rodenskyno06:01
FireCrotchrodensky: Here is a copy of my sources.list, you'll want to remove the last repository though: http://pastebin.com/f4195041f06:01
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FireCrotchrodensky: or rather, everything listed after ## TOR repos06:02
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rodenskywhere do i find this list ?06:03
Huntz23argh, brain cooked, what the command for kernel version?06:03
zoeuname -r06:03
zoeor is it uname -a?06:03
zoeone ore the other06:03
Huntz23uname -a works06:04
Huntz23thanks06:04
zoealso, my sound cuts out when flashplayer is active, any ideas?06:04
rodenskyok found it06:06
rodenskyFireCrotch: i changed the source list to yours (exc. TOR)06:07
FireCrotchrodensky: Do sudo apt-get update  then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade then :)06:08
rodenskyahhh06:08
rodenskyit's aliveeee06:08
rodenskyalive!!06:08
rodenskywaiting for the upgrade to end =|06:09
Huntz23anyone familiar with EOL upgrades?06:09
zoeHi, I lose sound when flash player is active, can anyone help me with this?06:20
rodenskyit happed to me also... in my case i solved it by changing the device in the volume control06:21
rodenskyi tried every device listed untill i got the right one working without losing sound each time i used vlc player or skype...06:23
kexmanhello06:24
kexmanjust came from ##windows :)06:24
kexmangot tired of windows :)06:24
kexmanswitching over to kubuntu06:24
rodenskyFireCrotch: for now it seems the dist-upgrade is working fine, downloading whatever it is that i need. thank you very much :)06:25
FireCrotchrodensky: no problem :) Feel free to highlight me later if you have any further problems06:26
hagabakaweird, second boot after upgrading to karmic, I can't enable desktop effects any more. glxinfo displays Direct Rendering: Yes06:27
rodenskyoh it downloads hebrew language pack... yey.... =)06:30
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dustin2000Hi07:06
kaddihi, I posted a bug report about a regression in the kernel  regarding brightness 4 month ago. That report has not been touched since... Is it going to be sorted at some point or do untreated bug reports go stale when noone assigns them? Should I post a new report?07:22
FireCrotchkaddi: Link to the bug report?07:25
kaddihttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/41330307:25
pilat-onlinehi all, need help (I'm writting from a LiveCD and the browser don't fire up for some reason [Bus error (core dumped)], so can't use google)07:28
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pilat-onlineHad just installed Kubuntu 9.10 as new install, using "Free space on first HDD" option. So,I expected to have dual-boot with already uinstalled Win XP07:30
rodensky...07:30
alvinThe Asylum07:30
pilat-onlineit installed, but after reboot, I can only see windows loading, without any grub prompts..07:30
pilat-onlineI already installed grub manually, before, but not Grub 2... (07:31
FireCrotchkaddi: Can you tell me what version of gnome-power-manager you have installed?07:31
FireCrotcherrr07:31
FireCrotchnevermind07:31
kaddiI was going to check, but my guess would have been none ;)07:31
pilat-onlineI belive I need to install Grub to the MBR (strange it didn't install during the installation)...07:32
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vyomhi07:33
kaddihi :)07:33
vitamin-carrothello07:33
TheKroI'm trying to upgrade to Karmic.  Ran "sudo do-release-upgrade": it output "Checking for a new ubuntu release", and seems to have hung.  Suggestions?07:34
kaddiFireCrotch: I haven't installed it (obviously) but I also haven't installed guidance-power-manager, which I believe is the kde equivalent to gnome-power-manager07:34
FireCrotchkaddi: try installing guidance-power-manager07:35
TheKroit got further a bit earlier, but when it asked aboutoverwriting sources.list, I chose "No" to make a back up. Now it's not getting anywhere.07:36
kaddiFireCrotch: that didn't change anyting.07:38
FireCrotchkaddi: Do you still have the  2.6.28-14-generic kernel available to use?07:39
kaddino, it got uninstalled with one of the karmic upgrades, sorry07:40
kaddiautomatically, I wouldn't have unselected it :p07:40
rodenskywill upgrading erase pidgin and skype and other programs installed or will it "update" just the system itself? (i.e. kernel/shell)07:40
FireCrotchkaddi: It would be helpful if you could install that kernel and see if it still works in that kernel07:41
kaddirodensky: it will leave the installed programs in place (with the possile exception of wicd)07:41
FireCrotchrodensky: it will update everything, including pidgin and other programs07:41
rodenskywill it install new programs?07:42
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kaddiFireCrotch: I can try that, should I get the kernel packages from packages.ubuntu.com? and which ones do I need? just linux-image-2.6.28-11-generic ?07:44
FireCrotchkaddi: it's not as simple as that, unfortunately.  kernel modules may need to be changed, etc07:45
FireCrotchkaddi: I am by no means a kernel expert, unfortunately :(07:46
rodenskywill it install new programs?07:46
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FireCrotchrodensky: I'm not sure that there are any new programs in Karmic by default07:47
kaddirodensky: it might install a program or two, especially if you have uninstalled programs that came installed in jaunty. But this is the exception07:47
FireCrotchkaddi: if you can confirm that the bug is actually kernel problem, the bug can be assigned to the kernel team07:49
kaddiFireCrotch: I think I'm gonna start by booting without this KMS since this seems to be where the problem starts for many others as well.07:49
rodenskyFireCrotch: i read that there are, for example a msngr that supposed to replace pidgin (empathy or something like that)07:49
FireCrotchrodensky: empathy is not a part of Kubuntu07:49
Guest14008hi07:49
kaddirodensky: even if there are programs installed you can always just uninstall them afterwards07:49
FireCrotchrodensky: pidgin will be upgraded, in your case07:50
rodenskyFireCrotch: i'm talking about ubuntu, not kubuntu07:50
rodenskyam i upgrading right now to kubuntu?? :S07:50
FireCrotchrodensky: no.... but you're asking for help with ubuntu in #kubuntu :-P07:51
rodensky'cause in #ubuntu it's not as much fun :P07:52
rodenskyit's not as helpful as it is here...07:52
FireCrotchrodensky: pidgin will not be removed, but I think empathy will be installed during the upgrade07:54
kaddikms didnt change anything07:54
rodenskyremoving newly installed apps is not a problem, i just hope nothing already installed will get removed...07:55
FireCrotchrodensky: Nah, that won't happen07:55
kaddiusually when something is unstalled settings are saved, so when you reinstall it, you can take up right were you left.07:55
TheKrook, so if no-one here can help me, where do I go next?07:55
kaddiFireCrotch: wicd would be an example of a program that gets uninstalled with every upgrade for kubuntu :p07:56
rodenskywhat's wicd? :x07:56
kaddia networkmanager, if you haven't knowingly installed it, it's not present on your system07:56
FireCrotchTheKro: You're trying to upgrade to Karmic, correct?07:56
TheKroFireCrotch: yes07:57
kaddiit gets removed because it is incompatible with a program that is installed by default in kde.07:57
ab000dyHi07:57
kaddihi07:57
zazzetttholas07:58
ab000dymay you help me !07:58
zazzetttif i can sure07:58
zazzettttell me07:58
rodenskyhmm... i have a network manager that i use with ubuntu... it was preinstalled, not my choise, will it be removed?07:58
kaddino07:58
ab000dyi want help using openmpi07:58
zazzettti think no07:58
ab000dyHi07:59
ab000dyHI every one07:59
FireCrotchTheKro: hmm, I'm not sure what the problem could be exactly07:59
FireCrotchrodensky: No08:00
rodenskyi don't care if it will be replaced with some other network manager, all i care that my setting will be kept... i have a modem from hell :\08:00
FireCrotchrodensky: You should be just fine...08:01
TheKrothx for looking, FireCrotch .  Are these IRC channels the last resort before posting a bug report?08:01
rodenskyFireCrotch: i see you writing to me 'no' too many times... are you my mother? :P08:01
rodensky:o now i know you're my mother!08:02
urlauberhi! I accidently removed a sounddevice in the KDE systemsettings (digital spdif output). How can I bring it back?08:03
TheKroFireCrotch: if I press ^C, I get a stacktrace - would that help you?08:05
FireCrotchTheKro: Well, it can't hurt for me to look at it :)08:06
TheKrotricky - i'm on the console - no cut and paste, or mouse08:07
FireCrotch!pastebinit08:08
ubottupastebinit is the command-line equivelent of !pastebin . Command output, or other text can be redirected to pastebinit, which then reports an URL containing the output. Simple usage: command-name | pastebinit08:08
TheKrocan I do that with stacktraces, ubottu ?08:08
FireCrotchTheKro: I have no idea.... you should be able to redirect the errors to a file or something?08:09
TheKro"Couldn't find any package ... matched pastebinit"08:09
FireCrotch!info pastebinit08:09
ubottupastebinit (source: pastebinit): command-line pastebin client. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.11.2-1 (karmic), package size 22 kB, installed size 344 kB08:09
FireCrotch!info pastebinit jaunty08:10
ubottupastebinit (source: pastebinit): command-line pastebin client. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.11.2-0ubuntu1 (jaunty), package size 21 kB, installed size 344 kB08:10
TheKroonly thingtab completion in apt-get install from "pas" gives me is passwd08:11
FireCrotchapt-get update ?08:11
TheKroodd - i ran that just before do-release-upgrade (to do last upates).  but now it's shown up.  But my sources.list file now seems full of intrepid repos08:13
TheKroinstead of jaunty08:13
FireCrotchTheKro: And you're sure you're on Jaunty?  uname -a ?08:14
FireCrotcher, I mean, lsb_release -a08:15
TheKroJaunty : 9.0408:15
FireCrotchTheKro: Change your sources.list to Jaunty then, do apt-get update, and try to run do-release-upgrade again08:16
TheKroyeah - i'm trying that now (thx)08:16
TheKro5366 new? should i do the release upgrade, or upgrade these packages first?08:17
FireCrotchJust do the upgrade08:17
FireCrotchrelease upgrade, that is08:17
TheKroworking, it seems08:17
TheKrothx for your help, FireCrotch08:18
TheKroheh - not enough disk space... that I should be ableto solve08:19
FireCrotchTheKro: Glad I could help :)08:19
* phelerox thanks all contributors to kubuntu for a flawless upgrade to 9.10 :)08:32
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rodensky"Need to get 392MB/782MB of archives." means i have only 392MB to download right?08:37
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* Rodensky Is asking: "Need to get 392MB/782MB of archives." means i have only 392MB to download right?08:39
* vitamin-carrot wonders why he cant pick his nose while standing on his head08:40
Rodenskywtf? how can't you?08:41
Rodensky:P08:41
vitamin-carrotwont i need both hands to keep my balance?08:42
fl4shb4ckgood morning guys :)08:42
jarl_Hi there.08:42
Rodenskyif you're standing on your head, you pick your nose. the problem begins when you're stading on your hands and can't reach with you legs08:42
vitamin-carrothi flash08:42
Rodensky*, you can pick your nose08:42
fl4shb4ckI still need help with my damned wlan and now half of my icons are questionmarks o_O08:43
Rodensky.08:43
jarl_Can anyone tell me what's the procedure to request new software in Ubuntu, there is probably a web-page describing such request.08:43
Rodensky*with your08:43
Rodenskyjarl_: just wait for ubuntu 10.04. they usually read minds... :P08:44
fl4shb4ckdoes anyone know how to get these questionmark-icons back to normal? :P08:45
Xiellauhh... What does ctrl+alt+F12 do?  I pressed it by mistake and just wondering if it did any permanent damage to my system.08:54
TheKroxiella - it just takes you to a console08:55
TheKroyou should be ableto get back to your GUI with ctrl-alt-f708:55
XiellaOh! that's alright then heh.  Thank you :)08:55
XiellaSweet.  Must remember that one.08:55
TheKroXiella: no prob08:56
andreas_hi09:00
fl4shb4ckthekro: can you help me?09:00
fl4shb4ckhi andreas09:00
TheKrofl4shb4ck: what's the problem?09:01
fl4shb4cka) my networkmanager shows my wlan router, but I can't connect | b) my icons have mostly changed to questionmarks09:02
ilterHello. I've a problem after upgrading 9.10 version. Could you help me anyone?09:02
TheKrofl4shb4ck: sorry - i also have wlan problems, and I'm still upgrading to karmic09:03
TheKroilter: just ask the question - whoever can help you will try to...09:03
fl4shb4ckso how can I fix that? :-/09:03
fl4shb4ckthis damned 15 meter long yellow cable sucks :D09:04
TheKrofl4shb4ck: did your wlan stop working after an upgrade?09:04
fl4shb4ckyes09:04
fl4shb4ckand my icons transformed to questionmarks ..09:05
fl4shb4ck:P09:05
TheKrohave you checked all your wireless settings?09:05
fl4shb4ckyes09:05
fl4shb4ckit can see the wlan-router09:05
fl4shb4ckbut I can't connect09:05
fl4shb4ckI've tried with 2 routers, the right password and WEP/WPA209:06
fl4shb4cknothing works09:06
ilterThank you TheKro.09:06
TheKrofl4shb4ck: do you have access to a router with no encryption?  or can you put your router's encryiption off temporarily?09:07
fl4shb4cklet me test that09:07
XiellaWhat's a good mud client for kubuntu in karmic?09:14
fl4shb4ckTheKro:09:19
fl4shb4ckare you here?09:19
TheKrohi fl4shb4ck09:22
fl4shb4ckwithout password it works09:22
fl4shb4ckbut this can't be the solution^^09:22
TheKrofl4shb4ck: it's not the solution, it's isolating the problem09:23
fl4shb4ckand what to do now?09:23
TheKroyour router is fine, and your machine can connect to wireless.  So there's something wrong with your wireless config, or your ubuntu's handling of some kind of encryption09:24
TheKrodid you use a non-encrypted router, or put your own router's encryption on?09:24
fl4shb4ckMy router encrypts the wlan with wpa2 psk automaticly and it worked with 8 / 9.04 perfectly09:25
TheKrofl4shb4ck: do you have access to the router you connected to with no encryption?  if so, you can try enabling some encryption, and see if you can still connect09:26
TheKroi'm probly going offline in a moment - my upgrade is modifying my kernel09:27
fl4shb4ckI was able to connect to an non.encryptet wlan, and I've tried the encryptions wep / wpa2 but it didn't work09:27
fl4shb4ckyes, and I will smoke a cigarette now, see you in a few minutes09:27
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ilterI've a problem about audio h/w after upgrading 9.10. It seems kubuntu recognize different audio h/w. Because of this some application (Amarok, Dragon player ..) couldn't recognize audio card. But for example vlc recognize audio card and it plays musics without problem. How can i fix it?09:36
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TheKrois there a portuguese #ubuntu or#kubuntu?09:36
Guest53169hello every one :) i am trying to make an installation usb from kubuntu9.10dvd.iso, but every technique i used i received during boot "could not find kernel image" i am desperate ... what should i do ???09:37
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fl4shb4ckso, i will reinstall kubuntu :D09:40
TheKrofl4shb4ck: i expect it's a config issue - so re-installing probably won't solve it09:41
fl4shb4ck:-/09:41
fl4shb4ckbut I need to solv that quickly, I need wlan for school09:41
fl4shb4ckand do you know how to change the questionmark-icons?09:42
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TheKroi have no idea about the ?-icons09:42
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TheKrofl4shb4ck: if your router has MAC filtering, try putting that on, only allow your pc (and others that need access), and then put encryption off09:43
TheKroit's a workaround for now09:43
TheKroand your router's still protecte09:43
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TheKrofl4shb4ck: gotta restart - bbiab, hopefully09:45
RodenskyHow do i pause the distro-upgrade being done in the terminal?09:45
ghabitHello. Uninstalling dragon-player asks for uninstalling kubuntu-desktop. How to delete it?09:46
frenchysorry i changed nick :P but i am trying to make an usb installation with kubuntu9.10dvd.iso, but every technique i used to create the usb i received during boot "could not find kernel image" i am desperate ... what should i do ???09:46
frenchyilter: try reinstall alsa09:48
Rodenskyanyone...?09:48
Rodenskysomeone...?09:48
frenchylol Rodensky i would have tried ctrl+c but i will be quite scarde of the result :p09:49
valgaav@ghabit kubuntu desktop is a meta package ... nothing will go wrong once you delate it09:50
VroomfondleRodensky: if it's started installing packages (rather than just downloading), you can't/shouldn't pause09:50
Rodenskyit's downloading at the moment09:50
Rodenskynot installing09:51
Vroomfondlethen hit ctrl-c a lot09:51
Rodenskynewbie+noob=noobie, and that's me, so please... be kind... :]09:52
valgaavRodensky: maybe kill it  from a second terminal ?09:52
Rodenskyctrl+c - what is it supposed to do?09:53
Rodenskyi want to pause it for a while so that i can resume it later from the same point09:53
Rodenskythere is no way to do that without risking the download already made?09:54
jeroen_hey, can somebody help me with my hda-intel sound driver? :( I cant get it to work09:54
memenodequick question.. what's the KDE vnc program?09:55
frenchyjeroen_:  which model do you have ?09:55
jeroen_ALC889A09:55
frenchyjeroen_: have you tried to specify a model in ur alsa conf ?09:55
jeroen_frenchy: thats the codec at least,09:56
jeroen_frenchy: couldnt find it09:56
frenchyjeroen_: which disto are u using ?09:56
jeroen_Kubuntu 9.1009:56
Rodenskyalready 50%... what's are the odds of the download finishing in 10 minutes? :|09:57
Rodensky*what09:57
Vroomfondleerm, depends what download speed you're getting ;)09:58
VroomfondleRodensky: there's no risk to the existing download09:58
Rodensky~15.1kB/s )-;09:59
Vroomfondleyou can jsut quit the download and then apt will pick up where it left off later on, more or less09:59
Vroomfondlebut in the meantime you may have difficulty using apt for other things09:59
frenchyjeroen_: in ur /etc/modprobe.d edit alsa-base.conf09:59
jeroen_frenchy: ok10:00
frenchyjeroen_: add options snd-hda-intel model= xxxxx10:01
frenchyjeroen_:  sorry add "options snd-hda-intel model=" and the the model the closest to ur lapto make a research on alsa10:01
jeroen_frenchy: I dont have a laptop :) hehe10:02
frenchyjeroen_: hope it will fix ur problem10:02
RodenskyVroomfondle: i need firefox and a bandwidth for 2 hours, that's all10:02
Vroomfondlethen you'll be ok.10:02
Rodenskywill i be able to continue later with the download via terminal if a kill it now?10:02
frenchyjeroen_: lol, so the closest description to ur card, i.e 3 slacks, 2 ect ...10:03
frenchyRodensky: try to freeze the process10:03
Rodenskyi'm always ok... the problem is with the pc :P10:03
Rodenskyso... how do i kill it? ctrl+c?10:04
frenchyRodensky: lunch system monitor10:05
ilterWhen I try to open a mp3 file with Amarok KDE gives this message: "the audio playback device HDA Intel, ALC883 Digital (IE958(S/PDIF) Digital Audio Output) does not work. Failing back to..". But when i try it with VLC it works without any problem. Any comment?10:05
Rodenskyi opened system monitor and i see the gnome-terminal->bash process. i have an option to stop it, is that what you meant?10:05
frenchyRodensky: yup10:05
jeroen_frenchy: Possible to test without reboot? :P10:06
RodenskyTHANK  YOU :D10:06
frenchyjeroen_: yes, but i don't remember how :p10:07
jeroen_frenchy: ok :P iĺl simply reboot10:07
jeroen_frenchy: thx for your help so far :D10:07
frenchycan someone help me with my usb install ??? i think i need to edit syslinux.cfg10:08
frenchycommon guys, i a desperate here :p10:10
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jeroen_frenchy: :( it didnt work.  i cant even open Kmix now10:19
frenchyjeroen_: hmmm that suck :(  one sec10:20
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frenchyjeroen_: can u run "~$ cat /proc/asound/card0/codec#* | grep Code" plz10:21
jeroen_frenchy: no such file or directory10:22
frenchyok jeroen_ please delete the line u added in alsa-base.conf and do "rcalsasound restart"10:23
jeroen_ok10:23
frenchyjeroen_: or "sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart" if the first doesn't work10:24
jeroen_frenchy: its giving me errors that the soundcard cant be found10:25
frenchyjeroen_: can u pastebin me the error ?10:27
jeroen_frenchy: http://pastebin.com/d6f07b23e10:27
frenchyjeroen_: can u lspci me please :)10:29
frenchyjeroen_: and then pastebin the result10:29
jeroen_frenchy: there is more but i think u need this line:     00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) HD Audio Controller10:29
jeroen_frenchy: otherwise http://pastebin.com/d6cb6625010:30
frenchyjeroen_: 1 sec10:32
u19809does anybody know of a binary jaunty compatible qt version > 4.5.1 ?10:34
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frenchyjeroen_: can u put # before "options snd-hda-intel model=" that u added in alsa-base.conf and then reboot ??10:38
jeroen_frenchy: I allready removed it and restarted alsa. but i didnt reboot yet. iĺl try that10:39
jeroen_frenchy: Hey, still not working but i can remember kde asking me to forget the HDA Intel (Analog) card and I did press yes :P10:43
jeroen_frenchy: is there a way to undo that?10:43
frenchyjeroen_: please follow that tutorial http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=78957810:43
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shadeslayerany idea where i can get the CD cover for kubuntu 9.10?10:49
teemu_Hi10:49
teemu_I've installed Karmic on MacBook Pro and it's up and running just fine, but I fail to get @-sign. I've tried to look up option for it from Xkb but didn't see one..10:50
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teemu_So does anyone have an idea where I could get the @-sign ? :)10:51
TheKroteemu_: sign up for a free email address on gmail ;)10:51
teemu_That's evil10:51
jussi01teemu_: one of modifyer keys + 2?10:52
teemu_jussi01: modifier key?10:53
jussi01teemu_: last time I looked, macs had secveral modifier keys, alt gr, one tat looks like a step?, apple key etc...10:53
teemu_Ah, yes. Well I've tried pretty much every combination I can come up with :P10:54
teemu_I have keyboard layout set to MacBook/MacBook Pro (Intl)10:54
jussi01try setting it to the finnish layout.10:54
teemu_I have that :)10:55
jussi01tight. Impretty sure on a mac its the key that looks like a step, + 210:55
jussi01not sure about a mac with linux10:55
xajter.10:57
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azhoralciao a tutti11:10
jussi01!it | azhoral11:11
ubottuazhoral: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare)11:11
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avashLinusTorvalds: hey11:25
LinusTorvaldshi11:25
LinusTorvaldsi will remove kubuntu11:26
LinusTorvaldsin the future11:26
avashwha tdoes that mean?11:26
LinusTorvaldshey11:26
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trijntjehi all, where did the in-program help for audacity go?11:47
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brywilharrisHi all11:49
johnferrei_leiwhat is the command to know my router's ip?11:50
brywilharrisifconfig11:50
johnferrei_leii only shows my mac adress11:50
johnferrei_lei:(11:50
brywilharristhen you're not connected to anything11:50
brywilharrisyou've got no route11:50
brywilharriscan't connect to anything anywhere11:51
johnferrei_leiyes, it shows my ip11:51
brywilharrisare you on a different computer?11:51
johnferrei_leibut it is my ip 192.168.*11:51
johnferrei_leii want my external ip11:51
johnferrei_leipublic ip11:51
brywilharrisah11:51
johnferrei_lei:)11:51
brywilharrisgo to www.grc.com11:51
brywilharrisand click shields up11:52
brywilharristhat will tell you (as well as doing a port scan to look for security holes)11:52
brywilharrisif you wish11:52
brywilharrisbut first it'll tell you dou IP and domain name11:52
Dragnslcrjohnferrei_lei- http://www.whatsmyip.org/11:52
johnferrei_leiisnt there a command espefic command to get my public ip (im on a router)11:52
brywilharristraceroute might do it11:52
brywilharristraceroute www.google.com11:53
trijntjehi all, where did the in-program help for audacity go?11:53
brywilharrisnope nevermind11:53
DragnslcrIf you're on the router itself, ifconfig would show the external interface. If you're behind a router, then there is no way for your computer to know the router's external address without asking an outside server11:53
brywilharrisUnplug from the router and plug into the modem directly for a minute11:54
brywilharristhen do an ifconfig11:54
brywilharrisSo I had an F_ing wopper of a bug on upgrade to Karmic last night11:55
johnferrei_leithanks for the explication Dragnslcr11:55
brywilharrisMy mount, umount, ping, and ping6 somehow lost their default permissions11:56
johnferrei_leitraceroute is doing the job but it gave me a lot of ip's11:56
brywilharrisno it will not show your external IP11:56
brywilharrisI checked11:56
johnferrei_leithnkz11:56
johnferrei_leimaybe the best way is really the whatsmyip.com11:57
brywilharrisyou want something to do it automatically?11:57
johnferrei_leii only wanted to know a command so that i can put on my aliases11:57
johnferrei_lei:s11:57
brywilharrishm11:57
brywilharrisDoes anybody have any idea how the mount command permissions could have gotten changed on upgrade?11:58
brywilharrisThey were changed to 000 and nothing would mount11:58
brywilharrisNICE11:58
brywilharrisComputer wouldn't boot after the upgrade11:59
aLeSDhi all11:59
brywilharrisIt really freaked me out11:59
aLeSDcould u suggest me a n application to use my webam ?11:59
brywilharrischeese12:00
trijntjeHow can i acces the in-program documentation of audacity?12:00
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trijntjeshadeslayer, i'm an idiot, thanks for you time. The 'help' menu was hidden because I didnt had audacity full screen12:03
johnferrei_leii found it! :) the best command to find my external ip is: $wget -q -O - checkip.dyndns.org|sed -e 's/.*Current IP Address: //' -e 's/<.*$//'12:04
tredcan someone tell me the proper syntax for a wildcard search in synaptic pkg mgr plz?12:04
johnferrei_leithnkz for your time12:04
nicklas__yo12:20
tredcan someone tell me the proper syntax for a wildcard search in synaptic pkg mgr plz?12:21
ilterHello. How can i start Amarok from terminal? I want to see errors ..12:24
nicklas__ilter: amarok12:26
shadeslayertred: why not use kpacakagekit?12:26
ilternicklas_: thank you. I've a problem Amarok. It plays but it doesn't give sound.12:27
ilternicklas_:Do you have any idea?12:28
tredbecause i like synaptic mostly12:28
nicklas__ilter: have you checked your audio/volume controls?12:28
nicklas__ilter: in kmix12:29
ilternicklas_: Yes i checked. VLC plays and gives sounds .. But Amarok doesn't.12:29
shadeslayertred: hmm... well try typing an part of the software you want or a small description of it12:30
nicklas__ilter: maybe you can activate all channels in kmix, and try the ones you think are right12:30
nicklas__tred: kpackagekit is like synaptic, just looks different12:30
nicklas__ilter: if that doesnt work, then i guess you will have to change audio output device for amarok12:31
tredi want to do general search, example of problem, if i type netwalk it finds nothing, but if i type knetwalk it finds package, i want to be able to search *netwalk and find knetwalk etc12:31
ilternicklas_: i activate all channels but all of them seem ok.12:32
nicklas__ilter: ok12:32
nicklas__ilter: then its a sound server problem12:32
nicklas__ilter: not so good with that in kde12:32
nicklas__ilter: in gnome i know how to solve it, not so good with kde yet12:33
shadeslayertred: wierd... well kpackagekit did find the package,but theres an alternative,try : apt-cache search netwalk : in a konsole12:33
shadeslayertred: also try asking in #ubuntu12:33
tredi am asking how to do this in synaptic, not alternatives12:34
ilternicklas_: thank you. I searched this problem on forums and i found that Amarok has a problem with Alc883 with PulseAudio. How can i remove PulseAudio?12:34
tredyes i will ask in ubuntu again soon12:34
NicoAJHi! Does anybody know how to configure KMail so as to have each "set" of folders [Mailbox+OutBox+Drafts+etc] for each account ?12:34
kooolanlhi guys12:34
nicklas__ilter: its weird, cause i have sound in amarok12:34
kooolanli have a fresh ubuntu install and dont seem to have root yet  can anyone tell me how i make a root account :D12:35
nicklas__ilter: well, in gnome you can change audio output device in multimedia settings, but in kde i dont know how to do that12:35
shadeslayerkooolanl: uh.. its made by default12:35
NicoAJHave you tried in VLC options-Audio-Output? try changing to PulseAudio12:36
kooolanli made my account when installing but i dont thing that is the same ?12:36
nicklas__NicoAJ: hes talking about amarok now :-P read :-P12:36
NicoAJD'ough! Sorry12:36
kooolanlshadeslayer12:36
ilternicklas_: i can change device preference. Alc883 Digital is on top.12:37
nicklas__NicoAJ: ;-)12:37
nicklas__ilter: well try to change then and see if that works :-)12:37
ilternicklas_: PulseAudio is second. But Amarok still doesnt give sound.12:37
nicklas__ilter: dont know, sorry :-S12:38
ilternicklas_: I think that it's about Amarok and Dragon Player. VLC and RealPlayer gives sound well.12:38
ilternicklas_:Ok nicklas_. Thank you for your concern.12:38
nicklas__ilter: only thing i know is that i know that in sabayon, i used audacious, and didnt have sound, so i changed output device in audacious, and it worked12:39
nicklas__ilter: you could change to audacious?12:39
kooolanlshadeslayer http://pastebin.com/d618584f112:40
ilternicklas_: sorry what is audacious?12:41
nicklas__ilter: http://audacious-media-player.org/12:41
NicoAJsmthing like ALSA, but non GPL I think12:41
NicoAJforget what I wrote12:41
nicklas__ilter: i think xmms also works like audacious12:42
fl4shb4ckhi there :)12:42
nicklas__ilter: i think they are both in repos12:43
fl4shb4ckdoes anyone know, if there is a widget for the internet speed?12:43
nicklas__ilter: but if you want amarok, you have to solve it differently im afraid, and im afraid i dont know how12:43
ilternicklas_: i got it you mentioned that other programs to play mp3 files. But in actually i want to solve this problem to learn. I've VLC which it works stable and gives sound now. Thank you so much for your hepls.12:45
NicoAJany ideas about my KMail issue?12:48
smellynoserI've just upgraded to karmic koala and I have to boot into recovery mode to get to a shell as normal mode just gets me a black screen12:48
smellynoserso I'm at a root shell, and I try to start KDM and it says: "Nope, already running with this PID", but it isn't12:48
smellynoserSame with GDM12:48
smellynoserHow do I stop it being stupid?12:49
amiksmellynoser: try 'sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop'12:50
amiksmellynoser: or 'restart' instead of 'stop' if u want it running... or 'start' if it ain't...12:51
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Ko_deZHi.12:53
Ko_deZJust installed karmic. I miss emacs21. Has it been removed? Then package is still there if I search.12:54
tredi see emacs23 in pkg list12:55
Tesssaany problems installing or upgrading to #kubuntu please12:58
Tesssahaving problems with ubuntu and xubuntu12:59
Tesssaufrom 9.04 to 9.1012:59
tredi recently installed it and have only minor glitches13:00
tredi instaslled 9.04 and upgraded to 9.1013:00
kepplermighola13:00
Tesssawell mine upgrade locks up at the login window13:00
Tesssaso may wait untill april 2010 and install that version13:01
tredreinstall 9.0413:01
Tesssai have13:01
trednow use the livecd and backup an image with partimage13:02
tredso u dont lose everything if u need to reinstall again13:02
Tesssano i will wait untill april i do like 9.04 but thanks all the same13:03
Tesssaseems like 9.10 is buggy13:03
Tesssalooking at their site13:03
Tesssaanyway thanks13:03
kexmanhi13:09
kexmani wanted to replace my windows with kubuntu :)13:09
kexmanproblem is that i already have a gentoo set p next to the windows :)13:09
kexmanhehe :)13:09
kexmani selected manual partitioning (advanced)13:10
kexmanthen at the last part i didnt know where to install bootloader13:10
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kexmancould anyone help me with that ?13:10
rootI there13:12
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Guest73068i've a problem log into kubuntu 9.1013:12
Guest73068I activated autologin through GUI in system pref13:13
Guest73068all works fine until today13:13
oobeGuest73068, i think you will need to be more specific13:13
Guest73068but since today, i've the kdm screen at login time and my login doesn't worlk13:13
oobetry using gdm13:14
Guest73068so i've done ctrl+alt+f1, killall -9 kdm && killall -9 Xorg && startx13:14
Guest73068and it works13:14
kexmancan i have a single / mountpoint ?13:14
Guest73068mmm I can use gdm with kubuntu ?13:14
kexmani selected that at the installation13:14
oobeyes kexman13:15
Guest73068i've a partition for / (ext4) and one for /home (ext3)13:15
kexmanoobe: k and what about the bootloader ?13:15
kexmanwhere should that reside ?13:15
nicklas__ilter: hows it going?13:15
oobeoptonal but choosing the first part of hdd is best13:16
Guest73068oobe: how could i use gdm in kubuntu ?13:16
Guest73068Have i to remove kdm ?13:16
kexmanoobe: hmmm first part ?13:17
Guest73068and why could i login through console and not through kdm ?13:17
kexmandoesnt he partition that the bootloader resides needs to be bootable ?13:17
kexmanshould i select the /dev/sda disk itself ?13:17
kexmanoobe: can it reside on the same partition as the / ?13:18
ilternicklas_: i noticed that xine using pulseAudio sound server. And i think that Amarok and Dragon use xine. On the other hand VLC and RealPlayer use ALSA.13:18
Demerzelmorning folks13:19
ilternicklas_: Now i trying to find xine configuration.13:19
Demerzeli've got an interesting issue - krandr doesn't let me adjust the position of my screens ... is that a known issue?13:19
ilternicklas_:i think that if i change sound server which xine use, i'll solve the problem.13:19
nicklas__ilter: ok13:20
idyllichi, I have a problem with boot with a fresh installed Karmic  Kubuntu - http://paste.ubuntu.com/307510/13:22
mimehello averyone, there is a way for having kubuntu 9.04 drivers on karmic koala?13:22
mimethank you13:22
mimethe sound ones13:23
mimebecause now when putting the jack, mutes the speker13:23
mimeI don't like kk13:23
shadeslayermime: thats the standard behaviour13:23
mimeyes, but now my two ext, spekers they dont go, any software or something?13:24
mimei looked in alsamixer, etc...13:24
idyllichi, I have a problem with boot with a fresh installed Karmic  Kubuntu - http://paste.ubuntu.com/307510/13:24
mimei think i need an specific soft13:24
shadeslayeridyllic: try changing everything after " defaults " in line 21 to : 0 013:24
mimei have jack control, but i don't know if that is good13:25
shadeslayermime: no idea13:25
idyllic<shadeslayer> why? cos i want to write on my ntfs without dolphin nagging me about ownerhsip13:25
mimethank you =13:25
mimei just can't undrstand why they dont let you choose13:26
kubuntu_kubuntu is goodd13:26
kubuntu_kubuntu is so gorgeous13:26
kubuntu_don't you think so???13:26
kubuntu_any body13:26
mimeyes, i will erase all and install it again, with amarok 1.4 :P13:26
kubuntu_why13:27
kubuntu_any problems13:27
somekoolHi ! my touchpad stopped working after upgrading to Kubuntu 9.10 . any idea what could it be ?13:27
mimeif i know karmic going to do that, ill not update13:27
kubuntu_stopped working?13:27
kubuntu_cannot start up13:27
kubuntu_or other problems13:27
mimemy jack while conected stals sound from ext spekers13:27
mimemuted the13:27
mimem13:28
shadeslayersomekool: whats the touchpad make?13:28
`oobe`i had many problems with karmic also13:28
idyllichi, I have a problem with boot with a fresh installed Karmic  Kubuntu - http://paste.ubuntu.com/307510/13:28
Demerzelthis is what I see when I try to use krandr to reposition my screens the way my displays are positioned: http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/1994/krandrscreenpositioning.png13:28
Demerzelany thoughts?13:28
Demerzelthere's no option to reposition screens13:29
mimewell, another issue is in dual boot, when selecting kubuntu, it redirects me into a ''shell'' or ms dos window were the only thing i see is ''grub>''13:29
shadeslayeridyllic: did you see my earlier comment?13:29
mimethnx shades13:29
`oobe`i suspect many of the devs working on karmic arnt too experienced13:29
shadeslayeridyllic: ignore that13:29
idyllic<shadeslayer> did you see my as well?13:29
idyllic<shadeslayer> i mean i can try to not mount my ntfs at all13:30
shadeslayeridyllic: it didnt get highlighted since your using the '<'13:30
kubuntu_ntf2-3g13:30
kubuntu_ntfs-3g13:30
idyllicshadeslayer: so what is your take? I don't think there is anywrong with my ntfs mounting. i can revert back to the default one gid=46 (plugdev that's)13:31
kubuntu_today is so cold13:31
kubuntu_I cannot bear it13:31
shadeslayeridyllic: apart from that,all i can think of is for you to check the blkid's13:31
somekoolshadeslayer: very funny13:32
idyllicshadeslayer: blkid is the same. CHecked13:32
shadeslayersomekool: ?13:32
shadeslayeridyllic: can you try and comment out the ntfs partition and try to boot?13:32
shadeslayeridyllic: http://pastebin.com/f1163daf << my fstab13:33
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idyllicshadeslayer: so you suggesting me to use /dev/sdaX to mount my ntfs? instead of blkid?13:34
shadeslayeridyllic: no,im saying that comment out the ntfs lines and see if the PC boots13:36
idyllicshadeslayer: same =/13:37
shadeslayeridyllic: ok i thought it might been have the data partition,but now i have no idea :(13:38
idyllicshadeslayer: thanks for your help though.  Google results didn't help me much. Still the same.13:38
idyllicshadeslayer: anyway, you mount ntfs defaults without utf8 @_@13:39
shadeslayeridyllic: whats utf8 ?13:39
daniellehttp://pastebin.com/d4dad2cf4  can some one please tell me why this is not working13:40
idyllicshadeslayer:  unicode 8 encodiing :D13:40
shadeslayeridyllic: and thatll help me how?13:41
Demerzelanyone who can help out with http://imagebin.org/70148 ? krandr doesn't let me re-position my screens to match their physical positioning13:41
kexmanthis kubuntu installs strange :)13:42
kexmanfirst it installs then it removes :) hehe13:42
daniellelol13:43
Demerzelprobably upgrading from 9.04?13:43
Demerzelthe removal is cathartic for me :)13:43
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kexmanim installing 9.0413:44
kexmandont have the bandwitdth to download newest now13:44
kexmani tought i install this and then upgrade13:45
kexmanasap13:45
Demerzelyou'll install that13:45
Demerzeland still need to upgrade to the latest patches13:45
Demerzelbefore you should upgrade to 9.1013:45
Demerzelthat might offset the b/w savings completely13:45
kexmania need a running OS asap :)13:46
kexmani can upgrade / download later13:46
kexmanbut i need this now13:46
Demerzelah .. different story :)13:46
kexman:)13:46
daniellewelcome vista7 :P13:46
vistar7_hello13:46
kexmanjust said hello & byebye to xp :)13:46
kexmanconverted to ext313:46
daniellenow whats your problem13:46
guitar431did i mentioned today that is still love kubuntu?13:46
djkmhello.13:46
Demerzelvistar7_: before you ask, no, it's not ubuntu it's 4213:46
kexmanlol13:47
danielleHA ROFL demerzel13:47
Demerzel:)13:47
vistar7_i will explain my problem. I have session KDE running, with the theme Vistar7...now the system crashes or freezes at random times without record in log files. I am unsure if it the the theme or the actual KDE problem..13:47
guitar431keep up your good work kubuntu is getting better and better13:47
djkmi would like  to install kubuntu 9.10. My laptop is toshiba a350-22z. does it support my laptop?13:47
Demerzelguitar431: i'm sure the devs appreciate that :)13:48
shadeslayer!hardware13:48
ubottuFor lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection13:48
djkmKubuntu Netbook Edition 9.10 or Kubuntu 9.10 ? which one is for me?13:48
vistar7_is anyone experiencing frequent freezes in KDE sessions?13:48
Demerzeli think it will be useful to create a windows-based app similar to the vista/windows 7 upgrade advisor13:48
Demerzelvistar7_: not i ... not yet at least .. just upgraded to karmic13:48
daniellei was with the elementery 1.7 icon pack installed13:49
Ash-Fox!ipv613:49
ubottuFor an introduction to IPv6 and information on tunneling IPv6 through IPv4 connections, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPv6 | To disable IPv6 see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv413:49
danielletry diff theme then if it dont crash you have your problem :P13:49
vistar7_so it could be the problem with the theme...as Vistar7 is does not have support13:49
danielledanielle *giggles* i have gnome and kde na na naaa na naaaa13:50
Demerzelvistar7_: it might very well be ... i'd recommend disabling it and sticking with the original for a few days13:50
vistar7_does anyone know of a nice theme for KDE which i could DL13:50
daniellelook in synaptic under kde themes13:50
vistar7_alright Demerzel ill try doin that for a few days..hopefully thats the only problem coz i would like to stick with KDE session as i like the interface^^13:51
daniellevistar7 try sudo apt-get install kdeartwork-theme-window13:52
vistar7_alright doin that now13:52
vistar7_cant find package?13:53
vistar7_dont think i have the repositry13:53
daniellesudo apt-get install kdeartwork-theme-window kdeartwork-theme-icon-kde4  kdeartwork-style  works for me13:55
danielleotherwise open synaptic go to setings and add more repos from the tick boxes13:56
daniellenow to work out my problem :(13:56
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BluesKajhiyas all13:58
daniellehi13:58
ubuntuhello everyone14:02
daniellenow to sit back and watch 31.5 gb of repos download on 25kb/s internet......14:02
daniellehello ubuntu14:03
kexmanduhhh14:03
vistar7_OMG14:03
ubuntuwhy are you downloading so much?14:03
kexmanwhy you need 31.5 gb ???14:03
kexmani dont understand neither14:03
Demerzelthat's a lot of stuff14:04
Demerzelare you trying to mirror the repos?14:04
kexmanhehe :)14:04
kexmanhe wont tell14:04
danielle:D14:04
kexmanhe / she ?14:05
Demerzeldanielle sounds like a she14:05
danielleboth if you want14:05
danielle:P14:05
Demerzelspells like a she too14:05
Demerzelwow 25k14:05
Demerzelthat's craziness14:05
vistar7_^^14:05
danielle*attempt deep voice* i could be a boy14:06
Demerzeli wonder if there are alternatives i.e. maybe ubuntu could ship you the repo on dvds?14:06
danielle22yo lady tasmania australia14:06
Demerzelnice14:06
PiciDoes it matter?14:06
danielle30 gb worth? ha lol i would prefer bluray14:07
Demerzeli miss cricket now that i'm out of a cricket watching country14:07
Demerzeli'd move to .au but too many issues there for me14:07
Demerzel30g - maybe a hard drive14:07
Demerzelthere's no ubuntu one client for kde right?14:08
daniellespot on about aussie issues14:08
danielledanielle *thinks barrage is fun*14:09
danielled i did not understand that14:09
vistar7_i live in AU right now^^14:09
daniellewhere ?14:10
vistar7_Adelaide14:10
daniellein in burnie tasmania and it's "pissn down"14:10
vistar7_anyone got 9.10, is there a major improvement in 9.10 or..?14:11
danielleand you have bigpond internet :P14:11
daniellewell yeah the ext4 run well fast14:12
vistar7_bigpond internet sucks soooo bad...i wanna change it14:12
daniellehaha contract14:12
vistar7_coz everything is telstra like phones and stuff loll14:12
vistar7_i heard bout ext414:12
Demerzelext4 still has issues with large files14:12
danielleapplications seem to crash a lot on 9.10 than they did on 9.04 i say wait a few weeks till you upgrade14:12
vistar7_i think i am using ext314:13
Demerzelor were they resolve?14:13
Demerzelresolved even14:13
BluesKajnever heard that ext4 has issues with large files14:13
danielleit's fine for the os all my games are on a nother hdd and movies etc... i use ntfs for storage even tho i dont use windows14:13
EagleScreen9.10 works pretty well for me14:13
danielleeaglescreen do you have appls crqashing all the time?14:14
vistar7_i changed from windows to linux quite recently14:14
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daniellemy girlfriend has windows 7 it runs well aswell14:14
daniellebuuut looks arnt everything i guess14:15
BluesKajI have a W7 partition...seems alright14:15
BluesKajdon't use it much14:15
Guest2283hello guys,   my moizilla firefox do not show flash components!  what showld I install to repair it?14:15
vistar7_danielle i downloaded that kdeart file but cant seem to find in menu, how can i access it?14:15
vistar7_flash player?14:16
BluesKajGuest2283, which kubuntu version ?14:16
Guest2283814:16
danielleno idea in in gnome atm14:16
vistar7_ohk14:16
Demerzelhttp://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/910#Possible%20corruption%20of%20large%20files%20with%20ext4%20filesystem14:17
EagleScreennot for me, danielle14:17
Guest2283<BluesKaj>   help me man14:17
Demerzelthat's the link for the 9.10 release note regarding ext4 corruption with large files14:18
BluesKajGuest2283, in the konsole, sudo aptitude install kubuntu-restricted-extras14:18
daniellesudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozzila14:18
Guest228336.2MB14:19
Guest2283OK   I wait instalation14:19
danielleEagleScreen really! wow my laptop must be in the shitter14:19
azhoral_i. after 9.10 upgrade i can't use my old program in kdevelop4. I programming in C++ with Sdl and Opengl.. nothing compile, nothing build, nothing execute14:19
Guest2283flashplayer-mozzila   did not help14:19
Guest2283petr@ubuntu:~/Рабочий стол/project_checkers$ sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla14:20
Guest2283E: Не удалось получить доступ к файлу блокировки /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)14:20
Guest2283E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?14:20
Guest2283petr@ubuntu:~/Рабочий стол/project_checkers$14:20
FloodBotK1Guest2283: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.14:20
daniellesudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree14:20
EagleScreendanielle: do you have creashes only in 9.10?14:20
Guest2283sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree   I tryed it too    but it did not work14:21
BluesKajGuest2283, open kpackage kit and edit sources, check all boxes, then open other sources and check all the boxes except for the cdrom14:21
EagleScreenGuest2283, danielle it is flashplugin-installer14:21
BluesKajGuest2283, then sudo aptitude update , then ,sudo aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree14:22
danielleyes but it was an upgrade from 9.04 with the ext3 to ext4conversion and grub 2 conversion [thats proberly why]14:22
danielleGuest go here http://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer/productinfo/instructions/#section-314:23
BluesKajdanielle, that may not work , it's the plugin he needs ,not the player, the palyer is installed by default14:25
danielleahh ok my bad it's 2am here and i only had 4hrs sleep last nite [monster energy keeps me awake]14:27
BluesKajdanielle, ok, but pease don't use 'my bad'...it's ghetto talk and non native english speakers won't understand that14:28
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danielleit is? lol my wrong doing then :P14:29
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danielleyay 1% or 31.5 gb done14:29
danielleof*14:30
BluesKajwe need to be careful with shorthand expressions as well ...I'm guilty of using them too :)14:30
daniellefunny you made me feel bad14:31
BluesKajdanielle, 31.5G ..what are you DLing ?14:31
daniellemirroring the karmic repos14:31
kexmanhmm nice kubuntu14:31
kexmanfull of eyecandy :)14:31
kexmanbut moves like a snail on my craptop14:31
BluesKajyeah, but everyone of them ? :)14:31
danielleyup14:31
BluesKajwhy14:32
daniellei did not know what ones i wanted so i took them all.14:32
BluesKajokaaaaay.....14:32
danielleclients pc's i fix computers "progamershop" i install ubuntu for them and when i install or update it savem me bandwith14:33
daniellein the long run that is14:33
compilerwriterHow is Karmic going for everyone?14:34
danielleonly 4 use it so far and they all recon it is faster that 7.10 :D14:34
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BluesKajso far so good for my setup , compilerwriter ...it depends on your HW mostly and how you install14:34
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daniellei on the other hand have errors every where [identified tweeker]14:35
compilerwriterok BluesKaj  I have this very generic 64 bit processor shuttle with intel on board.  As far as the install is concerned should I upgrade or do a fresh install from dvd?14:36
pete_^does anyone know what is going on with my tray? I remember seeing a bug in Qt somewhere regarding transparency and the tray but can't find it - http://i37.tinypic.com/35mo6xi.png14:37
BluesKajcompilerwriter, install update-manager , if you don't have it , then use it from the run box , that's the safest way IMO.14:37
daniellethats what i did14:38
compilerwriterI have not been very happy with kpackagekit BluesKaj; I take it you are in agreement with me on that one.14:38
BluesKajkpackagekit is flaky , but update-manager is more like synaptic , very stable14:39
BluesKajcompilerwriter, update manager isn't meant to install packages anyway , it's designed to upgrade from 9.04 to 9.1014:40
BluesKajerr to be used to update from 9.04 to 9.1014:41
danielleye b a whale14:41
compilerwriterHere is the other catch BluesKaj.  The box had forsight on it in the shop I was in.  They downloaded the i386 version and we installed it before I bought the machine.  I only have 1 gig of memory in it.  Should I download the 64 bit and do a fresh install or should I just upgrade the 386 version that I have.14:41
danielleoh sorry wrong room14:42
BluesKajupdate-manager edits your sources.list automatically as well14:42
compilerwriterdanielle what sort of troubles are you having with karmic?14:42
danielleprograms crashing out of the blu but my desktop is heavly tweeked14:43
kexmancan i reduce kubuntus visual effects to increase performance ?14:43
daniellekexman sudo kill all14:43
compilerwriterkexman I believe you can turn off the visual effects altogether.14:43
BluesKajcompilerwriter, do the upgrade with i386 , with only 1G RAM , 64 bit won't be much of a performance boost14:44
pete_^that would do more than disable visual effects..14:44
daniellepete lol true easy fix tho14:44
pete_^sudo apt-get install twm14:45
compilerwriterdanielle you should keep in mind that we might have some very new people to linux who would take that at face value and be a bit upset with you after the fact.14:45
pete_^*likewise, don't bother installing twm unless you know what you're getting yourself into..*14:45
compilerwriterso BluesKaj sudo apt-get updatemanager?14:46
BluesKajupdate-manager14:46
compilerwriterof course install should have been in there.14:46
BluesKajuse the -14:46
compilerwriterI can't type worth a crap this morning.  Not good since I used to be a 20K an hour data entry clerk.14:47
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BluesKajcompilerwriter, then use the run command box to upgrade , alt+f2,  update-manager14:48
pete_^does anyone else use kde without desktop effects? (and NOT seen my bug?)14:48
compilerwriterThanks BluesKaj14:49
EagleScreenpete_^: i dont see that bug since kde 4.114:49
compilerwriterWill update manager work for every upgrade or is it just designed for this one?14:49
pete_^I thought it was gone too14:49
danielleok14:50
mugginzpete_^: Is your system an upgrade or fresh install14:50
pete_^using the legacy nvidia driver on one machine ( FX 5 series) it isn't there14:50
daniellehow can i stop x from xterm14:50
BluesKajcompilerwriter, np, there is a command some use in the konsole , but it hasn't been verified as totally effective and without breakage problems yet.14:50
pete_^with this one 9.10 fresh, new /home it's still there ( two nv50's)14:50
EagleScreendanielle: try: killall bash14:50
pete_^nohup sudo service kdm stop ?14:51
compilerwriterNow if we could just get quassel to more intelligently break the end of lines.14:51
BluesKajcompilerwriter, from one distro to the next one up, I think14:51
BluesKajkonversation is more my cup of tea14:52
compilerwriterGood old alt+f2.  Gotta love it.14:52
pete_^mugginz: so it is a new install. On another machine it isn't a problem with 9.04/kde 4.3.214:52
daniellenope14:52
mugginzpete_^: Which driver?14:52
daniellei'm in gnome atm14:52
pete_^190.4214:52
compilerwriterBluesKaj: I agree.  I have been giving quassel the old college try out though.  I may give up and revert to Konversation.14:52
pete_^mugginz: sorry, 190.4214:52
Vlado9A3CY'morning :)14:53
mugginzpete_^: I'm still on 190.32 -14:53
pete_^mugginz: do you have desktop effects off?14:54
mugginzBoth on and off their fine.14:54
DragnslcrI went back to Konversation a while ago. In Quassel, when you go back to a channel after having not viewed it for a while, it would take Quassel several minutes to respond14:54
pete_^mugginz: I take it you have just the one GPU and no xinerama right?14:54
mugginzWill be doing a new install in the next few days, I hope I don't get hit with that buig14:54
daniellekeeps telling me i have the x server started14:55
mugginzpete_^: Twinview14:55
compilerwriterBluesKaj: The thing  is showing me some importanat security fixes as well as the upgrade.  Should I just upgrade; or, should I do the security fixes first?14:55
BluesKajI'm not a real eye candy guy , but the quassel look leaves me cold14:55
pete_^I liked IRC in Kopete14:55
BluesKajgo with the security fixes first for sure14:56
compilerwriterBluesKaj: it is not the look so much as the feel for me.14:56
pete_^mugginz: I'll try it with just two screens + twinview to see if it's still a problem14:56
mugginzpete_^: Cool.  Here's hoping it's OK14:56
BluesKajcompilerwriter, security fixes are important14:57
compilerwritermugginz:Do you play cribbage or is that nick just a coinkydink?14:57
pete_^Problem is twinview as the name suggests only works with two screens14:57
mugginzpete_^: Just coinkydink14:57
nickinamehello...14:57
pete_^mugginz: wrong person to reply to14:57
mugginzpete_^: So what's mugginz in cribbage?14:57
pete_^mugginz: ask compilerwriter, I don't know what cribbage is either14:58
mugginzpete_^: Oops :)14:58
BluesKajcard game with a points board14:58
compilerwriterBluesKaj: I know they are important; I just thought perhaps they would be included with the upgrade and therefore might be a waste of time.14:58
nickinamei tried to make customized ubuntu. but i cannot change the hostname and username of live system. is there any script to edit?14:58
BluesKajcompilerwriter, it can't hurt14:59
compilerwriterpete_^: mugginz:  Just what BluesKaj said.14:59
BluesKajor better not14:59
mugginzNever played it myseklf14:59
compilerwriterWell now that the security fixes are done I suppose I will cross myself and do the distro upgrade.15:00
BluesKajcompilerwriter, should be no problem15:01
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roKB!status15:01
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about status15:02
compilerwriterThat is what I thought about my last root canal.  That turned into an ugly ordeal before it was over though.15:02
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pheleroxI'm having some KDE graphical glitches with icons on the taskbar. http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/2988/kde432kubuntu910glitch.png Some are just too huge! and weirdly located. I just did the upgrade to 9.10, although most of these glitches appeared some month ago when I grabbed KDE (was it) 4.3. Before I made the upgrade to 9.10 I used to have a glitch at the login-screen too. The vertical ends of the screen were filled with random 15:04
kexmancompilerwriter: how ? where ?15:04
kexmanits making my experience with kubuntu sloooooow15:05
pete_^mugginz: It looks like it's related to xinerama, when using twinview it's not a problem.15:05
pete_^although it's odd it isn't a problem on the other machine with xinerama though15:06
mugginzpete_^: I wonder if its related to the prob as phelerox is having?15:06
mugginzYou need xinerama to two graphics cards yeh?15:06
BluesKajcompilerwriter, I normally do upgrades by the cli , but i was advised that the usual commands were depracated and replaced by update-manager, so it's as safe as a clean install afaik.15:07
pete_^mugginz: yes, maybe I should have gone the matrox THTG route though, doesn't seem to be any progress being made on Xorg gpu object (which as far as I understand would fix the sucky performance of xinerama too somehow)15:08
mugginzI just hope the ATI drivers mature soon.. I'm looking at an Eyefinity setup15:08
mugginzThree screens on one card15:08
pete_^mugginz: that would be nice, I've just been xinerama + dual NV for a while15:09
joel__My sdhc card cant be foudn in ubuntu or kubuntu15:09
joel__really annoying15:09
pete_^joel__: you do have a sdhc reader right?15:09
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daniellewow i just updated my nvidia drivers and for the first time i did not crash x... ati wish they could do that15:10
mugginzpete_^: I just bought  a thrid 24" and was going to add a second NV card for a while.  I think I'll hold off till ATI drivers work15:10
danielle3%15:10
joel__pete_^: yeah.. works fine in xp15:11
joel__its a built in one15:11
joel__and theres nothin in dmseg15:11
pete_^joel__: do you have a non HC card you can try?15:11
Riddellhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek starting now15:11
daniellehere is something diffrant i'm going to install every package in synaptic and see what happens15:11
joel__pete_^: No! Thing is, my girl has the same comp but with XP installed on it.. Its crap. But the only thing that I need for her to convert to linux is that I'll get the reader to work15:12
joel__Its for her camera15:12
pete_^joel__: It's entirely possible that the reader isn't supported at all, does her camera not have a usb cable without having to use a dock? That works fine for me15:13
joel__I see that possibility aswell.. She lost the cable but I guess its possible to buy a new one.15:14
pete_^mugginz: Do you have a link regarding this 3 screen on a single ati card? I told myself years ago that ATI was out of the question after seeing the sorry state of their linux driver15:14
mugginzpete_^: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NzUyNQ15:15
pete_^joel__: Luckily my inbuilt card reader also works (but the Memory stick one) doesn't15:15
pete_^joel__: That may be your best bet then sadly15:15
joel__gah15:15
pete_^joel__: what model is the laptop?15:15
pete_^mugginz: Do your screens have display port? I've only got DVI sadly15:17
mugginzpete_^: I believe you can get an adaptor to go from display port to DVI15:17
mugginzpete_^: The corrent Eyefinity cards have two DVI and one display port15:18
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pete_^mugginz: I think I've seen that done actually, so maybe that is still a possibility15:19
juacom99hi, one question, i just install kubuntu 9.10 and i the only screen resolution option i got are 640x480 or 800x600 but on 9.04 i could use it on 1204x768 what may be happening?15:19
mugginzpete_^: I'm hopin.  I dont want to use two cards if I can help it.  To many problems as you've found.15:20
pete_^mugginz: that's why I've been tempted to get one of those matrox boxes15:20
pete_^mugginz: although they aren't exactly cheap15:21
mugginzpete_^: I believe the matrox boxes have sucky performance but.  I might be wrong though15:21
pete_^mugginz: How could they? It basically takes a signal in at 2*horizontal res and splits it15:21
pete_^mugginz: if we're talking about the same thing15:21
mugginzpete_^: As long as the card doin three screens has the bandwidth I guess it'd be OK.  I'm wanting to do 3 x 1920x1200 so I thought it mightn't like that15:23
dinuhi all,.. i have a problem: Can't connect to mobile broadband connection,..  when i connect modem to PC  its found as optical disk, after that i unplug it and its found as moden, i create a new connection called "Orange internet", but when i click  to "Orange Internet" icon, nothing happened. PS: sory for my bad english.15:25
dinuHave a ZTE MF637 modem15:26
pete_^mugginz: Hopefully, but you would be relying on exactly the same thing with the ATI solution (except they support it I guess)15:26
mugginzpete_^: I'm hoping a card designed to push threee screens simultanioulsy will be better that one designed for two.  But I guess it depends on how much monewy I want to spend :)15:27
Zxcvbany idea why kppp would keep saying "the pppd daemon died unexpectedly" with an exit code of 0? (log here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/307621/)15:29
dinuAny help plzz??15:29
Zxcvband yes, connecting via pppd call works fine15:29
Ash-Fox!tmpfs15:31
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about tmpfs15:31
pete_^mugginz: I remember reading somewhere that that maximum accelerated viewport the non business cards nvidia would push was less than I'd have required, supposedly some people had results with it though15:32
pete_^mugginz: so waiting might be the best bet15:32
mugginzpete_^: If benchmarks show the Matrox way to be good, I'd be interested, but now with Eyefinity I'm hoping ATI will get their device driver butts into gear15:33
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ibousalut15:34
ibouhi15:34
pete_^mugginz: I guess it just depends how the GPU would cope with the extra high resolution15:35
ibouhow comes that i can't read video dvds with kmplayer alhough i read them with dragon player ?15:35
kitplygreetings! I was trying to connect my nokia 7210 model phone via kdebluetooth4, by searching for the phone and then clickng next. It gives an error " sorry your phone doesn't support input service"15:43
kitplyi guess there is some problem between the nokia phones and kdebluetooth415:43
kitplyis there any workaround for this?15:43
kitplyany help is appreicated,thanks15:44
pete_^mugginz: Back to xinerama and the transparency to black15:44
skarlhoffgrüsse15:44
mugginzpete_^: Could you try an earlier driver?  In the past the KDE devs have blamed nVidia for those symptoms15:45
pete_^mugginz: It was a problem with whatever driver I tried back on 9.04 too, I'm just going to try Xinerama on one card to see if it's a problem there too15:46
* Danial_View yawns15:46
hyper_chhi there, is there a simple way to downgrade packages that I installed from a PPA to the ones in the official repos?15:47
bigjoolshyper_ch: apt-get install packagename=version15:47
hyper_chbigjools: will try that :)15:48
pete_^mugginz: Still a problem with just one GPU + xinerama, I'll go fetch an older driver15:48
mugginzpete_^: Cool, will be very interested in outcome.  By the way, I'm on 190.34 with a 9800GT15:48
DrHydeHLgreating15:48
pete_^mugginz: 190.42 on a 8800gt and 9800gt15:48
hyper_chbigjools: is there a mass downgrade tool for all of qt4?15:50
DrHydeHLgerman users here?15:51
hyper_chDrHydeHL: #kubuntu-de15:52
hyper_chbbl15:52
juacom99any idea of my screen porblem?? :S15:52
Demerzelfolks ... i asked in #kubuntu but this isn't necessarily a kde problem - I experience the same issues in gnome - this is what i see when I run krandr to attempt repositioning my screens - http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/1994/krandrscreenpositioning.png - any ideas?15:52
DrHydeHLthx hyper15:53
linexI'm on 904. Can I not upgrade to 910 ?15:53
bigjoolshyper_ch: I don't think so15:53
Demerzellinex: you need to update your distro completely to the latest patches and then upgrade to 9.1015:53
juacom99hi, one question, i just install kubuntu 9.10 and i the only screen resolution option i got are 640x480 or 800x600 but on 9.04 i could use it on 1204x768 what may be happening?15:53
linexDemerzel: ok thanks. SO its possible.15:54
pete_^mugginz: the tray is still black with 185.18.3615:54
mugginzpete_^: Bugger!  Is that with the 8800 or 9800?15:54
pete_^mugginz: both15:54
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rorkjuacom99: the larger resolutions might not be recognized by your system you have to edit your /etc/X11/X11.conf manually or you can try to install a driver15:55
mugginzpete_^: On both screens?15:55
pete_^mugginz: I just moved the panel from one GPU to the other with even more amusing results15:56
juacom99rork: my xorg.conf is empty :S15:56
mugginzpete_^: How amusing?15:56
mugginzIs it even possible to do tripple screens over two cards without Xinerama?15:56
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mugginzI might have to have a look at the nVidia driver docs15:57
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rorkjuacom99: I meant xorg.conf idd, there isn't a backup?15:57
juacom99nop i did a fresh install15:57
Demerzellinex: yes, definitely possible15:57
Demerzellinex: that's how i upgraded to 9.10 myself :)15:58
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linexDemerzel: koolbuntoo!15:59
mindarHi!15:59
pete_^mugginz: the corruption was so amusing I had to restart16:01
rorkjuacom99: if you installed a nvidia/radeon driver you can try to configure it with that. Else you can try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" to reset the xorg.conf16:01
mindarHm, i need help... How can i insert the picture in konsole?16:01
mugginzpete_^: I thought so.  The delay in posts suggested it :)16:01
pete_^I tried to get a picture of the tray with ksnapshot then it just went insane16:01
apparleI am having problem with ATI open source  driver16:01
mugginzpete_^: Well, this is depressing.  You setup is basically what I was goin to do as a stop gap till I get an Eyefinity card16:02
pete_^mugginz: It works apart from the system tray16:02
mugginzI've got a 7600GT I was goin to put with the 98--16:02
pete_^mugginz: and 2d acceleration isn't great, but if you have a dual/more core cpu it can cope16:02
apparleI am having problem with ATI open source  driver16:03
pete_^mugginz: some kind of massive corruption is going on here with pixmaps16:04
rorkapparle: can you define your problem?16:04
pete_^mugginz: when I move the plasma panel from one screen to another then try to use ksnapshot16:04
apparlerork: I am typing16:05
mugginzpete_^: I'm going to try the 7600 in with the 9800 just for laughs16:05
BluesKajwell folks , it seems sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude safe-upgrade , followed by sudo do-release-upgrade , is now officially correct for upgrading from one distro to the next ..or one can use apt-get if you prefer it to aptitude16:05
pete_^mugginz: Interesting to hear your results, I've never seen this insane corruption before16:05
mugginzI've had a bit of practice cajoling the nVidia drivers, I might be able to find a workable soluton16:05
pete_^mugginz: It's relatively easy these days, you can do it all through the nvidia-settings GUI16:06
mugginzpete_^:  I'll know more in the next few days, do you hang around here often so I can let you know how I go?16:06
BluesKajmugginz, I'm running a 7600gt without any problems16:07
dinuhi all,.. i have a problem: Can't connect to mobile broadband connection,..  when i connect modem to PC  its found as optical disk, after that i unplug it and its found as moden, i create a new connection called "Orange internet", but when i click  to "Orange Internet" icon, nothing happened. PS: sory for my bad english.16:07
mugginzBluesKaj: The prob seems to be when its dual cards with xinerama16:07
pete_^BluesKaj: It works, it's just with Xinerama required for multiple GPUs it's a problem16:07
BluesKajoh, xinerama , good luck ! :)16:08
pete_^I can now randomly click the desktop and get artifacts jumping16:08
pete_^I liked 190.42 better.16:08
mugginzpete_^: nVidia party tricks :) Corruption on demand.,16:08
pete_^mugginz: it would be very interesting if you have this issue too with 185.xx, move the default panel from one screen to another then try to take a region screenshot with ksnapshot16:09
mugginzpete_^:  Will do.  I'm gunna head off now cause it's 3:10am here in australia.  I'll let you know what I find.16:10
pete_^mugginz: Ah, fair enough. Good luck with the setup when you get round to it.16:10
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apparlePlz help http://paste.ubuntu.com/307654/16:11
jesus_alguien habla español??16:11
apparlerork:  got the problem?16:12
RodenskyI HATE ditro-upgrade....!! It makes me want to kill myself!!16:13
rorkRodensky: that's why they made the LTS versions :)16:14
Rodenskyyou don't say...16:15
rorkapparle: yes but I don't know a solution16:15
Rodenskylooks like it's the handy work of a pot head16:15
apparlerork: :)16:15
bucketheadI can't use get new themes on splash screens under system settings... Is anyone else having this problem?16:16
slow-motionhi16:17
BluesKajbuckethead, go to kde-look and download them from there , then just open them with ark and they'll show up in system settings16:17
nikitisEpic fail on kubuntu upgrade....16:18
bucketheadYeah, thats working.. I was debating if I should file a bug or not, since I think its a munged config file ..somewhere..16:18
Rodenskyonly ~700MB downloaded for the past 5 days... every time having some other problem...16:18
BluesKajbuckethead, there's already a bug report , but it's not getting much attention16:19
Rodenskyit'll be an epic fail if i'll manage to download everything and at the and the system will crash over some missing kernel-whatever-thingy16:19
nikitisI upgraded from 9.04 to 9.10.  I can no longer save anything into /tmp.  kdm crashes everytime i use a 3d Wine app.  etc.  And like 10 other programs crash when i launch them.16:19
nikitisbrb16:20
nikitisgoing to do fresh install16:20
Rodensky9.10 = windows?!16:20
nikitisyup, similar to windows upgrade16:20
nikitisthat's how fail it was for me16:20
nikitis8.10 to 9.04 was great16:21
nikitisanyway, brb16:21
Rodenskyindeed16:21
carmelitaHello, I'm having some weird problems with kmail under kubuntu 9.1016:23
carmelitaCan sompen please help me?16:23
Rodenskycarmelita: seems like the problem is 9.10 itself :\16:23
carmelitaRodensky: ???16:23
Rodenskyall hail 9.0416:23
carmelitaActually I'm happy with 9.10, just one issue that is bathering me a lot!16:24
carmelitaTHat I have a lot of E-mails stored locally in my Mail directory, and lots of directories. And when I open Kontact, or kmail it takes like 5-10 min for it to react fast. At the beginning it's just very, very slow, like if it was indexing all the E-Mail, or something like that. Does someone know about this, or a way to correct it?16:26
Rodenskyby far, after what i've read here, you're lucky that 9.10 even boots for you... thank god for that, and pray a lot that it'll stay the same. 9.10 makes people religious. i'm out :\16:26
carpii_carmelita, have you tried to compress the mailbox ?16:27
carpii_'compact' i mean, not compress16:27
carmelitacarpii_: No, Does that help?16:28
carmelitaWill the E-Mail be still avaliable directly?16:28
carpii_i would image its worth trying16:28
carmelitacarpii_: You are right, but after the compressing, would I be able to access all my E-Mail directly?16:29
ubuntu0000000000hi16:29
ubuntu0000000000hello16:29
carpii_well my understanding of it is, when you delete a message its just marked as deleted16:29
ubuntu0000000000?16:30
carpii_and compact finally purges it, and reduces the size of the mailbox file16:30
carpii_but maybe you should take a backup of your mail directory if possible16:30
carpii_before you try16:30
carmelitacarpii_: OK16:30
ubuntu0000000000hi i want to ask a question16:30
carmelitaI didn't know that16:30
carmelitacarpii_: Thanks a lot!16:30
ubuntu0000000000i have kubuntu but i want ubuntu16:30
carpii_no probs, good luck16:31
Piciubuntu0000000000: install the ubuntu-desktop package.16:31
ubuntu0000000000can i have them both?16:31
carpii_ubuntu0000000000, just install gnome, and optionally remove kde16:31
carpii_you can run gnome and kde on same machine, yes16:31
carpii_or ubuntu and kubuntum if you prefer ;)16:31
ubuntu0000000000carpii_:  yes but it gets heavy :(16:31
carpii_not really16:31
carpii_but well, you cant have everything :p16:32
ubuntu0000000000carpii_:  is there any way not to load all those libraries :(16:32
ubuntu0000000000only those a certain KDE app needs ;(16:32
carpii_all kde apps need the core kde libs16:32
ubuntu0000000000because when i load gnome and kde apps together it needs more time to load an individual KDE app16:32
carpii_what sort of machine are you using?16:32
carpii_i run kde, but sometimes use gnome apps, and its not noticeable16:33
ubuntu0000000000carpii_:  it a core 2 mobile proceessor16:33
carpii_how much ram?16:33
ubuntu0000000000carpii_:  on an hp laptop 1GB RAM16:33
carpii_hm ok16:33
ubuntu0000000000carpii_:  667 MHz FSB16:33
carpii_maybe you should pick kde or gnome then, and try to use only apps from those16:34
carpii_theres no way to stop a kde app loading the kde libs when it runs, because it needs them16:34
carmelitaI just installed 9.10, so far so good only have the issue with kmail.Now I just tried skype and sound doesn't work!! So is with vlc. Does any one know how to solve this?16:34
ubuntu0000000000carpii_:  thanks i will try fall back with gnome again ... :(16:34
Godel_s16:37
ubuntu0000000000carpii_:  how can i remove the kde-desktop in one command16:37
ubuntu0000000000carpii_:  because ubuntu has ubuntu-desktop but KDE what command?16:37
Godel_how16:37
Godel_can i format a drive?16:37
Godel_a usb drive16:37
raavanPackage manager ask password in gtk?16:38
raavanEverything seems fine, I even corrected my gtk fonts with the workaround here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-style-qtcurve/+bug/414711 but i think root user still has ugly gtk16:40
apparlePlz help http://paste.ubuntu.com/307654/16:40
raavanis there any pure qt package manager?16:41
Godel_is there a usb format16:42
Godel_tool16:42
Godel_on partition manager16:42
Vroomfondleraavan: Adept?16:42
ubuntu0000000000bye16:43
apparlePlz help http://paste.ubuntu.com/307654/16:44
raavanmansur? are you manzur on launchpad?16:44
Dragnslcrraavan- KPackageKit is the default manager since 9.04, I think16:45
raavankpackagekit uses gtk for password?16:46
apparlePlz help http://paste.ubuntu.com/307654/16:47
apparledesperate... plzzzz16:47
SebazHi all, just installed Kubuntu 9.10 and installed Audacious2 but no sound :( tried ALSA and PULSE and no luck.. OSS does work and I hear music but no controls over the volume etc.. what can I do to make Audacious2 work with Pulse or ALSA?16:48
reto`Sebaz: does ALSA work with other programs?16:50
Sebazreto`: how can I check that?   When I open a mp3 with amarok it plays fine.. but I reject Amarok16:51
raavanapparle, hav you tried without the PCI setting fresh without any tweaks?16:52
carmelitaNoone knows how to enable sound on skype and vlc under Kubuntu 9.10?16:55
Vroomfondle"enable"?16:56
Vroomfondlejust worsk for me by default, carmelita16:56
apparleraavan: you mean the default fresh installtion .... yeah I tried that... but  compositing/effects don't work16:56
Vroomfondlesounds like you've found a bug16:56
Sebazevery X.10 build is worse in audio support.. especially with Intel audio cards16:56
apparlecarmelita: does sound work anywhere else16:56
carmelitaYes it works on all kde apps and the Drago player16:56
carmelitaI mean Dragon16:57
carmelitaAnd the microphone also works, when I unmute it from kmix16:57
VroomfondleI've heard that the coupling between pulseaudio and everything else is a bit broken in kubuntu 9.10, but haven't had any trouble myself16:57
ebovinecarmelita: It's probably also broken on the nonfree flash plugin.16:57
apparlecarmelita: which audio driver.....16:57
carmelitaapparle: How can I identify which audio driver?16:58
SebazVroomfondle: I think you are right.. almost nothing works default with audio16:58
apparlecarmelita: does it work by default everywhere else16:58
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apparleHow to force the graphics to be detected as PCI only16:58
carmelitaapparle: by default works under all kde apps and under Dragon Player16:59
apparlecarmelita: try selecting the OSS driver in VLC16:59
carmelitaapparle: I just tried the flash plugin under firefox and the sound doesn't work there neither16:59
nikitisQuestion.  I'm in the live session of kubuntu disk now.  I have a LVM spread across /dev/sdb3 and /dev/sdc1.  How do i go about mounting it in the live session?  I need to delete some users before i go about fresh installing.17:00
raavanapparle, you saw this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonXpress17:00
apparlecarmelita: 9.10 or 9.0417:00
ebovinecarmelita: You can figure out which audio driver you're using in the System Settings -> Multimedia dialog17:01
carmelitaapparle: 9.1017:01
apparleraavan: it says 8.10 onwards work out of box17:01
apparlecarmelita: Try removing pulseaudio17:02
carmelitaapparle: ALC88317:02
apparlecarmelita: I know its ALC88317:03
carmelitaIs pulse audio installed by default on Kubuntu 9.10? Because I read skype 2.1 uses pulseaudio17:03
carmelitaapparle: Is pulse audio installed by default on Kubuntu 9.10? Because I read skype 2.1 uses pulseaudio17:03
carmelitaapparle: how do I remove pulseaudio without damaging anything else?17:03
apparle!info pulseaudio17:03
ubottupulseaudio (source: pulseaudio): PulseAudio sound server. In component main, is optional. Version 1:0.9.19-0ubuntu4 (karmic), package size 586 kB, installed size 4200 kB17:03
apparlecarmelita: Acutally I don't know.....17:04
carmelitaapparle: I didn't install pulseaudio17:04
apparlecarmelita: reinstall it later17:04
carmelitaBut it appears there System Settings -> Multimedia dialog as the last option17:04
ebovinecarmelita: Just remove it like any other package.17:04
apparlecarmelita: but see if anyother package is not getting removed with it17:05
carmelitaapparle: pulseaudio is not installed17:05
carmelitaapparle: I just confirmed it17:05
carmelitaebovine: pulseaudio was never installed in my system17:05
ebovineI just found the same thing on my 9.10.17:06
apparlecarmelita: then install it :)17:06
apparlecarmelita: as you yourself said it is required to run skype17:07
carmelitaapparle: hahahaha, are you sure?17:07
apparlecarmelita: and did you try selecting OSS driver in VLC17:07
carmelitaapparle: I didn't, I said I read that skype 2.1 supports it17:07
carmelitaapparle: Yes and with no success17:07
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BluesKajthere is a skype alternative that doesn't need pulseaudio , it's the staic version, skype_static-2.1.0.4717:08
BluesKajstatic17:09
carmelitaWow, I thought I had learned a lot of linux in the past year using it, but I really wouldn't be able to do much without people like you helping me! Thanks all!! ;-)17:09
carmelitaBluesKaj: So the normal skype really needs pulseaudio?17:09
BluesKajwell the karmic default skype , yes17:09
carmelitaBluesKaj: Yes, that's waht I meant sorry17:10
BluesKajakfaik , carmelita , there may have been changes since I tried it amonth ago17:10
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apparlePlz help http://paste.ubuntu.com/307654/17:16
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dthackerklibido looks like it's unmaintained.  Recommendations for KDE4 Usenet file grabber?17:22
jhutchins_ltdthacker: pan works.17:24
soheylHey17:27
Godel_hello17:28
Godel_how can i download the latest wine?17:28
BluesKaj!wine | Godel_17:37
ubottuGodel_: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu17:37
BenPAhelp day3 .... due to grub or grub 2 could not complete install of 9.10 from 9.04 ... have tried various google and this irc channel suggestions ... can anyone help to get to terminal to maybe fix issue . have 9.10 and 9.04 disk but will not run ... using knoppix to connect here17:45
Peace--software to manage ipode on kubuntu17:47
Peace--that insn't gtkpod17:47
MBSTOo/17:47
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TuxkowoHi everyone !17:52
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TuxkowoHi everyone !17:54
Octy92hello17:55
Octy92anyone has an ipod (the apple one)? how can i sync it?17:56
Peace--me no xD17:56
Peace--Octy92: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Transfer+to+Media+Device+(formerly+iPod)?content=2685017:58
Peace--Octy92: you have to install amarok 1.417:58
Octy92o.O17:59
Peace--amarok 1.4 nicer than 2.217:59
Peace--amarok 2.x series is not a complete software17:59
Octy92hmm... i'll try with default amarok 2.x before, thanks :)18:00
Peace--ogghei18:00
TuxkowoI installed the new Kubuntu 9.10, but Plasma crash each time it is launched. (I could use it for around 20 minutes) This problem isn't new for me and it happened to on Kubuntu 9.04. Is someone knows what happens ? I can give crash log and other informations.18:00
Peace--here on kubuntu 9.10 never seen a crash18:03
Peace--Tuxkowo:18:03
Peace--have you upgraded18:03
Peace--or formated and installed?18:03
razielplease i need help ! i install ubuntu in another partition drive and i cant see my windows 7 in boot18:03
Peace--raziel: mm if ytou have installed ubuntu go on #ubuntu18:04
Peace--here it's for kubuntu18:04
razieli mean kubuntu18:04
Peace--!grub| raziel18:04
ubotturaziel: grub is the default boot manager for Ubuntu releases before Karmic (9.10). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto - See !grub2 for Karmic onwards.18:04
BenPAhelp day3 .... due to grub or grub 2 could not complete install of 9.10 from 9.04 ... have tried various google and this irc channel suggestions ... can anyone help to get to terminal to maybe fix issue . have 9.10 and 9.04 disk but will not run ... using knoppix to connect here  ... pleasee18:04
TuxkowoPeace--: I installed a new system from the alt. CD. I formated my / part. but I kept my /home. I used Gnome before, so I don't have previous config files18:04
Peace--Tuxkowo: bad thing18:05
Peace--Tuxkowo: when you upgrade or you keep /home you should create a new user18:05
Peace--ah18:05
Peace--ok18:05
Peace--you used gnome18:05
razielubuto : right now i have grub18:05
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properzubuto : right now i have grub18:05
Peace--Tuxkowo: anyway try to create a new user18:05
TuxkowoOk18:06
properzhow i can get in boot windows 7 and kubuntu both ?18:06
Peace--properz: you have to fix grub18:06
properzhow?18:07
Peace--thre is on wiki18:07
properzhow i install rpm file ?18:07
Tuxkowoproperz: you need to use alien18:08
Peace--you can't use rpm file on debina18:08
Peace--you can only pray if alien converts it on deb18:08
properzi just want install xchat18:08
properzand get my windows 7 back :(18:09
Peace--sudo apt-get install xchat18:09
Peace--that's all18:09
TuxkowoPeace--: I'll try to start a new graphical session. Err... Is there a way to quit KDE nicely without Plasma ?18:10
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razielanyone can help me to fix my grub ? ( to get my windows 7 too in grub ) thanks18:12
Peace--raziel: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub218:12
Peace--Tuxkowo: yes18:13
Peace--or maybe no18:13
Peace--what do you mean without plasma18:13
razielpeace : its not help me..18:13
razieli dont need to read all for just add windows 718:13
TuxkowoPeace--: avoid doing a control + alt + backspace18:14
Peace--raziel: on linux there is a rule18:14
Peace--raziel: read the damned manual18:14
razielPEace : buy my english is not very good to understand it18:15
Peace--if you want solve your problem you can stay here without hope18:15
Peace--raziel: which language?18:15
Peace--raziel: there is a channel for every language18:15
razielhebrew18:15
Peace--raziel: i figured out from your name18:15
Peace--!hebrew18:15
ubottuלשיחות בשפה העברית ולגישה לקהילת המשתמשים העברית אנא הקלד:18:15
ubottu/join #ubuntu-il18:16
white_pelicanshalom aleichem18:16
white_pelican:)18:16
raziellol18:16
kexmanwtf ???18:16
kexmanmy putty title changed to something veeeery ... pfff korean ? :)))18:16
Peace--raziel: my name is hebrew and it means the heart of god xD18:16
kexmanhmm weir ... now its back .... strange things happen :)18:16
razielPEace : no one in the hebrew room18:16
Peace--omg18:17
Peace--there are few people but there are18:17
raziel!grub18:17
ubottugrub is the default boot manager for Ubuntu releases before Karmic (9.10). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto - See !grub2 for Karmic onwards.18:17
razielPeace : i can remove grub and use the regular ? [ the normal dualboot]18:19
Peace--raziel: mm i don't know18:19
white_pelicanyou need either grup or lilo18:19
white_pelicangrub*18:19
Peace--he means grub 1 instead of this sick grub218:20
razielPEace : he dont help me he dont know18:21
Peace--xD18:21
Peace--raziel: have you tried here http://ubuntu-il.com/site/18:21
razielall the israel peppols noob18:21
dbjokerhey! Have anybody installed kubuntu on your netbook?18:21
Peace--raziel: it's in your language try to find out documenation18:21
razielnoobs18:21
Peace--raziel: mm i don't think so18:21
razieli can manage the room18:21
BenPAcan anyone help me with my computer not booting into new upgrade ... grub issue18:23
Peace--raziel: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub218:24
Peace--sorry18:24
Peace--BenPA:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub218:24
BenPAPeace: tried that didnt work18:24
Peace--ah omg this sick grub218:24
BenPAPeace: I can't get to terninal18:24
Peace--BenPA: try with a live cd18:24
dbjokerwho can help me: i had install kubuntu 9.10 netbook edition on samsung nc 10, but is's works very slow, maybe i need to install some drivers?18:25
Peace--dbjoker: it's a video card problem ...drivers18:25
seb0nabcam bu ubuntuyu yahu18:25
BenPAPeace: I am using knoppix now ... my kubuntu 9.10 and or 9.04 will not install .. but will on another machine18:25
seb0ekran kartini takinca u.uyor18:26
dbjoker<Peace-->: how to solve this problem?18:26
Peace--dbjoker: ati nvdia?18:27
Peace--BenPA: you have to fix grub? so use a live cd to edit the file18:27
BenPAPeace: I cannot get to a termial/console that is working .... I am using knoppix cd now but not sure of how to get to the point where I can install/update grub or grub218:29
seb0ubuntucular yardim18:30
razielif anyone understand in GRUB and can help me in private its good thanks18:30
Peace--raziel: i have found this http://erickoo.wordpress.com/2009/06/14/how-to-add-vista-partition-to-grub-2-ubuntu-9-10-karmic-koala/18:30
Peace--!intel18:31
ubottuUbuntu 9.04 has a known regression for some Intel graphics support. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/IntelPerformance and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1130582 for more information.18:31
Peace--dbjoker:  maybe you can get some finormatio in those page , even if there are for 9.0418:32
seb0onboart la kurulum yaptim ekran katini takinca ubuntu a.ilmiyor yahu yardim edecek k'mse yokmu bu kanalda18:32
Peace--seb0: english18:32
seb0'ng'l'zce b'lm'yorum18:32
postfuturistanyone know why Kubuntu doesn't seem to discover Windows shares from the WORKGROUP it's part of?18:33
Peace--postfuturist: for samba?18:33
Peace--have you made correctly your config file?18:33
postfuturistPeace--: yeah.18:33
postfuturistPeace--: both18:33
seb0yokmu yardim bu kanalda18:33
Peace--postfuturist: i have made with success samba with windows using this http://nowardev.wordpress.com/2009/05/05/kubuntu-904-windows-share-with-samba/18:34
postfuturistPeace--: Thanks, I'll check it out.18:34
Peace--seb0: english or change channel18:36
Peace--!english | seb018:36
ubottuseb0: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat18:36
BluesKaj!tk | seb018:37
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about tk18:37
seb0ne d'yon yahu18:37
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ubottuseb0: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)18:37
seb0b' anlasam18:37
BluesKaj!tr | seb018:38
ubottuseb0: Turk ubuntu kullanıcıları, Türkçe yardım ya da geyik için #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.18:38
seb0orda yardimci olamadilar yahu18:38
seb0ubottu senm' yardim etcen18:38
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)18:38
postfuturistPeace--: Worked like a charm, I think I needed to create a samba account.18:40
BenPAPeace: how do apt-get to the hard drive if I ever get it mounted?18:40
Peace--postfuturist: heheh that blog is mine :)18:40
postfuturistPeace--: ha! Thanks for the help :)18:41
seb0bak yardim etmezsen'z kulanmiyacam bu s'stem'18:41
neoandersen_Help, I lost my X environment upgrading to 9.10 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8224674#post822467418:41
kotelohi guys, i have a very interesting question for you ;D18:41
kotelohow many Gigabytes I need to install kubuntu 9.10?18:41
seb0 nasilbi sitem yaiyorlaryahu18:41
seb0ekran kartiyla calismiyor yahu18:42
kotelosomeone?18:42
kotelo:(18:42
koteloagain18:43
kotelohi guys, i have a very interesting question for you ;D18:43
BluesKajneoandersen_, what graphics card do you use?18:43
kotelohow many Gigabytes I need to install kubuntu 9.10?18:43
FloodBotK1kotelo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.18:43
neoandersen_nvidia18:43
kotelooh shutup bot18:43
koteloxD18:43
alfonsoI upgraded to 9.1 from 9.04 - spent yesterday downgrading again - the upgrade went so badly i couldn't boot the system past GRUB18:44
BluesKajkotelo, depends on what apps you are using and storage requirements for media etc18:44
ubuntui am having some problem with kubuntu installation18:44
kotelowell, a normal installation18:45
ubuntucan any one help me ?18:45
alfonsoAnyone else had a bad experience with the automatic downloaded upgrade?18:45
BluesKajalfonso, install grub2 before upgrading karmic18:45
koteloi will use another partition for storage videos, music, etc18:45
ubuntuit says no root file system defined18:45
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alfonsoThanks Blueska but I think, having finally got 9.04 working and stable again, I'll just stick with it :)18:45
ubuntu??18:45
ebovineAnyone else having issues with apache2 not reading their sites-enabled directory at boot, but it does just fine if they restart apache?18:45
BluesKaj3G should be fine ,kotelo18:45
kotelonice18:46
seb0t]rkce bilen yokmu burda yahu yarimciolcak18:46
BluesKajalfonso, ok , if you decide in the future to upgrade , remember my tip18:46
kotelothanks for the help guys18:48
kotelocya ;D18:48
neoandersen_BluesKaj, nvidia18:48
TuxkowoPeace--: Well... with my second account everything works well. I deleted all plasma related config files, and it seems to work with my 1st user. I'll install openbox to prevent another problem (and keep using my computer)18:49
TuxkowoThanks for your help18:49
razielwhere is the terminal in kubuntu ?18:50
Peace--Tuxkowo: np18:50
BluesKajneoandersen_, lspci | grep VGA18:50
Peace--raziel:  ALT F2  type konsole18:50
EagleScreenraziel: Applications -> System -> Terminal18:50
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seb0kimse yardim etmiyor yahu18:55
rork!en seb018:55
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about en seb018:55
rork!en | seb018:55
ubottuseb0: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat18:55
seb0ayniseyleri tekrarliyorlar yahu18:56
Pici!tr | seb018:56
ubottuseb0: Turk ubuntu kullanıcıları, Türkçe yardım ya da geyik için #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.18:56
seb0anladim yahu cevirimi yapiyorsun sen yahu18:57
BluesKajwe already tried that Pici , he doesn't seem to get it.18:57
seb0baska sey bilmiyormusun18:57
jamesjedimastermagyar?18:57
lukefeiln'abend18:58
Piciseb0: tür /join #ubuntu-tr18:58
seb0yardim edemiyorlar orda18:58
BluesKajhe's in turkey forsure18:58
rorkubuntu having connection problems?18:58
lukefeilist es möglich für die verschiedenen desktops verschiedene wallpaper zu haben, ABER die selben plasmoids?18:58
jamesjedimasterhungarian maybe?18:58
Pici!de | lukefeil18:59
ubottulukefeil: In den meisten ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuchen Sie bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Geben Sie einfach /join #ubuntu-de ein! Danke für Ihr Verständnis.18:59
ubuntuhi. can any one help me with installtion ok kubuntu18:59
ubuntu?18:59
Picistka_:18:59
PiciBu kanal sadece İngilizce. Lütfen için # ubuntu-tr kullanımı türkçe18:59
Peace--ubuntu: ?18:59
Piciseb0: ^18:59
lukefeilPici: sorry, wrong chanel18:59
seb0ne18:59
Peace--ask and don't ask to ask ubuntu18:59
seb0d'yon18:59
ubuntukubuntu installtion ??18:59
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ahmedtaufiqkubuntu installation ?19:00
lukefeilis it possible to chose different wallpapers for the different desktops BUT with the same plasmoids19:00
Peace--ahmedtaufiq: what's the problem with kubuntu installation19:00
ahmedtaufiqit says that no root file system selected19:00
rorkahmedtaufiq: if you came to choose a partition you need one formatted as ext3 or ext4 and mounted to /19:00
ahmedtaufiqmounted to dos or windows?19:01
seb0d'd'yorum s'z'n yardim etceginiz yok19:01
Pici2219:01
ahmedtaufiqi have my partition named as "D" under WIndows OS19:01
lukefeilahmedtaufiq: you have to name the mountpoint "/"19:01
ahmedtaufiqi want to use that partition19:01
Godel_libcurl-gnutls.so.419:02
Godel_where can i get this from19:02
ahmedtaufiqbut during installation it displays some other names19:02
ahmedtaufiq??19:02
lukefeilahmedtaufiq: yes he calls them sda1...3 or hda1..319:02
ahmedtaufiqit displays sda1 and then jumps to sda5 , 6 , 7 , 819:03
idylehey why didn't my kubuntu automatically fix my time?19:03
tiresiashello all19:03
ahmedtaufiqso sda 5 might be "D" dirve ?19:03
lukefeilahmedtaufiq:do you have already multipel OS installed?19:04
otaviobuenas19:04
ahmedtaufiqonly wondows installed19:04
ahmedtaufiq*windows19:04
lukefeilahmedtaufiq: and how many partitions?19:04
ahmedtaufiq4 partitions19:04
ahmedtaufiqon "c" i have got windows19:04
ahmedtaufiq"'d" is free19:04
ahmedtaufiqi want to install kubuntu on d drive19:05
lukefeilahmedtaufiq:do the partitions d,e,f have differnt sizes?19:05
ahmedtaufiqno all four are of same size19:05
ahmedtaufiqso what shd i chose ? sda 5 ?19:06
lukefeilahmedtaufiq: cause i'm not shure it's better to proof19:06
oDudai wanna change the first  graphic screen when booting kubuntu. the screen before the login19:06
lukefeilahmedtaufiq: open the different partitions in the livesystem19:06
ahmedtaufiqok then19:07
lukefeilahmedtaufiq: and remember the good partition...19:07
ahmedtaufiq"good partition "'?19:07
lukefeilahmedtaufiq: the "D"19:07
ahmedtaufiqok19:08
ahmedtaufiqthen ??19:08
lukefeilahmedtaufiq: when you open Dolphin in the ilvesystem, youcan chose in the sidebar the different partitions19:08
ahmedtaufiqyes19:08
ahmedtaufiqit says "volume vfat"19:09
ahmedtaufiqthen lukefeil ??19:09
lukefeilahmedtaufiq:hmm..19:10
ahmedtaufiqi have opened the d dirve19:10
ahmedtaufiqunder dolphin19:10
lukefeilahmedtaufiq:i'm thinking19:10
lukefeilahmedtaufiq: k19:11
lukefeilahmedtaufiq: you open an terminal19:12
ahmedtaufiqyes opened19:12
lukefeilahmedtaufiq: and you "unmount" all other partitions in dolphin (right_click > unmount)19:12
lukefeilahmedtaufiq: so only the "D" partition is mounted, then you enter 'mount -l' in your terminal19:13
ahmedtaufiqwait19:13
ahmedtaufiqfrom where to unmount?19:13
ahmedtaufiqi have opened terminal19:13
ahmedtaufiqthen what shound i type there?19:13
lukefeilmount -l | grep sda19:14
lukefeilhe should answer with only one line19:14
second_nickHi guys19:14
second_nicki have a problem19:15
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ahmedtaufiqcoomand not found19:15
Problemwhen i log in kubuntu i get a konsole and nothing else19:15
Problemhow can i fix  it19:15
lukefeilahmedtaufiq: copy&paste the command19:15
lukefeilahmedtaufiq: there is the special caracter | it's not an small L19:16
ahmedtaufiqok19:16
ahmedtaufiqlet me try19:16
ahmedtaufiqdone19:16
ahmedtaufiqi have entered both the commands19:17
lukefeilahmedtaufiq: what is he answering?19:17
ahmedtaufiqlong list came in19:18
lukefeil!past | ahmedtaufiq19:19
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about past19:19
lukefeil!paste | ahmedtaufiq19:19
ubottuahmedtaufiq: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com (or !pastebinit for CLI) | For pasting !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin Please give us the URLs for your posts!19:19
ahmedtaufiqwhat shd i do now?19:19
lukefeilahmedtaufiq: there you can post the output19:19
ahmedtaufiqTo run a command as administrator (user "root"), use "sudo <command>".19:20
ahmedtaufiqSee "man sudo_root" for details.19:20
ahmedtaufiqubuntu@ubuntu:~$ mount -l | grep sda19:20
ahmedtaufiq/dev/sda7 on /media/disk type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal,uid=999,utf8,shortname=mixed,flush)19:20
ahmedtaufiq/dev/sda5 on /media/disk-1 type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal,uid=999,utf8,shortname=mixed,flush)19:20
FloodBotK2ahmedtaufiq: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.19:20
ahmedtaufiq/dev/sda6 on /media/disk-2 type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal,uid=999,utf8,shortname=mixed,flush)19:20
lukefeilahmedtaufiq: you hav eto unmount the other partiotions in dolphin19:21
rolf__hi there19:21
oDudai wanna change the first  graphic screen when booting kubuntu. the screen before the login19:21
oDuda(not that animate)19:21
ahmedtaufiqi better dont use it19:21
lukefeilahmedtaufiq: you right click on the unwanted partitions and select "unmount"19:22
lukefeilahmedtaufiq:after that you retrie the command19:22
ahmedtaufiqi have unmounted all the other partitions19:22
ahmedtaufiqonly d and cd druve is there19:23
ahmedtaufiq*cd drive19:23
lukefeilahmedtaufiq: he  says that 3 partitions are mounted...19:23
ahmedtaufiqi have again done it19:24
ahmedtaufiqnow how to check it ?19:24
ProblemGUYS19:24
ZeroKelvinhello19:24
ProblemWHEN I LOG INTO KUBUNTU I ONLY GET A KONSOLE AND NOTHING ELSE19:24
ZeroKelvindoes java work in kubuntu? i tried to use the sofware "jdownloader" and kwin gone crazy19:25
lukefeilahmedtaufiq: when you left-click on a partition he auto-remount, so dont click left on a partition after unmounting19:25
Dragnslcr!info sun-java-jre6 | ZeroKelvin19:25
ubottuZeroKelvin: Package sun-java-jre6 does not exist in karmic19:25
Dragnslcr!info sun-java6-jre | ZeroKelvin19:25
ubottuZeroKelvin: sun-java6-jre (source: sun-java6): Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 6 (architecture independent files). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 6-15-1 (karmic), package size 6270 kB, installed size 14360 kB (Only available for all amd64 i386 lpia ia64)19:25
DragnslcrI think that's the package you want to install19:26
ahmedtaufiqTo run a command as administrator (user "root"), use "sudo <command>".19:26
ahmedtaufiqSee "man sudo_root" for details.19:26
ahmedtaufiqubuntu@ubuntu:~$ mount -l19:26
ahmedtaufiqaufs on / type aufs (rw)19:26
ahmedtaufiqnone on /proc type proc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)19:26
FloodBotK2ahmedtaufiq: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.19:26
ahmedtaufiqnone on /sys type sysfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)19:26
ZeroKelvini installed it from kpackage, the software is installed but i , with x64 version, have this problem, and another user with x32 the same19:26
ZeroKelvini installed the java default package, maybe another words better?19:27
lukefeilahmedtaufiq: now he say that no partition is mounted, now mount only the partition "D"19:27
ahmedtaufiqonly d is mounted dear19:27
somekoolhmm... I run Kubuntu and KDE.... but I have gnome installed. since I upgraded to 9.10. "svn up" is asking my my GNOME keyring password. but I dont use the GNOME keyring. how do I disable this ?19:28
ahmedtaufiqits mind boggling19:28
lukefeilso maybe you have'nt postet the entire output but in your listing ist no more /dev/sdaX19:28
lukefeilahmedtaufiq: and please use the pastebin service to poste more than a line19:29
ZeroKelvinanother question, is it normal that some days after release there are no package actualizations yet? i remember that with normal ubuntu in one-two days i had to install around 200 Mb...19:29
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ZeroKelvinit's the first time i'm using Kbuntu instead normal ubuntu...19:30
ahmedtaufiqthanks for ur help19:30
ahmedtaufiqsda5 is drive d, duh19:30
n16h7f0xi got a sony vaio ns21z with 4g ram and installed kubuntu 9.10, but on system monitor it only appera 3gb of ram...why is that? can anybody advice?19:34
jad_ZeroKelvin: Welcome to Kubuntu!19:36
jad_n16h7f0x: You have the 32 bit version of Kubuntu19:36
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n16h7f0xjad_, should i install 64bit one or what?19:37
jad_n16h7f0x: yep then you can get a few terrabytes of RAM19:38
n16h7f0xjad_, but i got and intel core 2duo P8600 2.4ghz isn't this a 32 bit proccesor?19:39
jad_I doubt it19:39
n16h7f0xjad_, how can i find out that?19:39
ZeroKelvinn16h7f0x: every core 2 duo has x64 capabilites....19:39
ZeroKelvin(of course also x32)19:39
jad_n16h7f0x: http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=35568 Ask Intel19:40
n16h7f0xZeroKelvin, so should work better on x64 or on x32?19:40
ebovine32 is more tested.19:40
ZeroKelvinn16h7f0x: i have being using x64 ubuntu's with no important problem19:40
jad_n16h7f0x: Functionally shouldn't make a difference other than closed source software19:40
ZeroKelvinonly flash, wich is a x32 only and sometimes malfunction in a 64 version19:41
n16h7f0xso won't be abble to see any speed difference (like 64 runs slower)19:41
ZeroKelvinslower?¿ it should be faster!19:41
n16h7f0xZeroKelvin, flash what? flashplayer?19:41
ZeroKelvinyes, flashplayer19:41
n16h7f0xoh i see19:41
n16h7f0xZeroKelvin, jad_ , thank you very much for your assitance19:41
n16h7f0xdownloading x64 edition now19:42
n16h7f0x:p19:42
ZeroKelvinit korks, but sometimes gone black and i have to reload the webpage19:42
ZeroKelvinworks, sorry19:42
n16h7f0xi had some flash problem on 9.0419:42
ZeroKelvinx32 version?19:42
n16h7f0xye19:43
jad_ZeroKelvin: Yes but that situation can happen for any closed source software19:43
n16h7f0xthe sounds goes crazy19:43
n16h7f0xafter 2 hours of firefox uptime19:43
ZeroKelvinjad_: yes, adobe should do a x64 version19:43
jad_ZeroKelvin: Well if Skype decides to stop making a 64bit skype then that would cause problems as well19:43
ZeroKelvinmm i don't use skype but i remember there are some alternatives... but with flash there are non completely functional yet19:44
n16h7f0xZeroKelvin, can i use 32 bit application on a 64 sistem19:46
n16h7f0xrite19:46
n16h7f0x?19:46
jad_Yeah :-) The point is if it's closed then it can cause problems since if they decide to stop doing say Drivers in 64 bit then you just can't do anything about it19:46
jad_n16h7f0x: Yes but it's funky19:47
n16h7f0xfunky?19:47
jad_Yes depending on the app you may have to do a chroot19:48
jad_But for the most part if you are using Free and Open Software then you can do 64 bit just fine19:49
slawek__.topic19:49
ZeroKelvinn16h7f0x: most applications have x64 version19:51
ProblemGUYS HELP. WHEN I TRY TO LOG INTO KUBUNTU I ONLY GET A KONSOLE IN THE UPPER LEFT CORNER19:52
BlueEagleproblem: Also your caps lock is on.19:53
BlueEagleproblem: On the login window there is a button at the left of and below the prompt where you enter the password. Here you can choose sessions. Are you set to start the "Failsafe" one?19:54
Problemno19:54
Problemi choose the default19:54
BlueEagleAre you able to choose KDE there?19:54
Problemno19:54
Problemdefault or failsafe19:55
BlueEagleHave you installed a server-distribution?19:55
Problemno19:55
Problemi have the desktop distro19:55
BlueEagleLet me check...19:55
Problemwhich worked days until something happened now19:56
Problemand when i log on i get a terminal in the upperleft corner19:56
second_nickhi19:57
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BlueEaglewhat happens if you attempt to run "startkde"?19:57
Problemany idea?19:57
Problemwait19:57
Problemthe program startkde19:58
Problemis not installed19:58
BlueEagleOrly!19:58
BlueEaglesudo apt-get install kde-desktop19:58
Problemit says to type19:59
BlueEaglemake that kubuntu-desktop19:59
Problemsudo apt-get install kdebase-workspace-bin19:59
BlueEagleI always mix those two up.19:59
BlueEagleInstall kubuntu-desktop That should put you straight.19:59
Problembut what happened19:59
Problemi removed notthing19:59
BlueEagleApperantly something has been removed.20:00
Problemthe command to start kde20:00
Problemis startkde?20:00
BlueEagle!startkde20:00
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about startkde20:00
BlueEagle!info startkde20:00
ubottuPackage startkde does not exist in karmic20:00
BlueEagleIt is.20:00
BlueEagleHowever the bot is stupid. :p20:00
tsimpsonno, it's not20:01
tsimpsonyou aren't using it right :)20:01
tsimpson!find startkde20:01
ubottuFile startkde found in kdebase-workspace-bin20:01
Problemso its right20:01
Problemthis is the package it tells me to get20:01
jad_BlueEagle: It's not a package it's part of the kdeworkspace package :)20:01
n16h7f0xone more question if i isntall vmware workstation last update will i have 3d capabilities on client system? if on host runs ok?20:01
BlueEagletsimpson: Well, it's definetly not intelligent, because if it was then it should have run !find when !info did not yeld any results.20:01
Problemnot kubuntu desktop20:01
jad_Problem: You need kubuntu-desktop20:01
tsimpsonBlueEagle: that's not how it's designed20:02
tsimpsonfind and info are different for a reason20:02
jad_well need is a strong statement but if you would like to login to KDE it's highly recommended :)20:02
BlueEagletsimpson: And therfore it's stupid. ;)20:02
tsimpsondifferent from how you want it != stupid20:02
tsimpsonjust "different" :)20:02
BlueEagletsimpson: Now you're just being stupid. :p hehehe20:03
Problemso install kubuntu-desktop?20:03
BlueEagleproblem: That should alleviate the problem.20:03
tsimpsonBlueEagle: and proud of it! ;)20:03
BlueEagletsimpson: Good stuff.20:03
Problemwhat happened20:05
Problemthe last thing i did was trying to download some packages20:05
Problemthen i closed the terminal20:05
Problemwhich wouldnt launch again20:05
Problemand when i restarted i got this20:05
BlueEagleIs it just me that thinks knowing which packages he downloaded would be helpful?20:08
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Problemoit says20:08
Problemoit cant fetch some files20:08
BlueEagleproblemo: Does it litterally say "some files" or does it list those files and give a reason for not being able to fetch them?20:09
BlueEagle!pastebin20:09
ubottupastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. Ubuntu pastebin is at  http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from  command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic20:09
neoandersenUnksi: lspci | grep VGA nVidia Corpotation G71 [GeForce 7950 GT]20:10
jad_I think problemo has sucessfulyl removed all the packages he's using and has just bombed out the desktop20:11
ZeroKelvinbyes20:11
jad_Hopefully irssi is installed20:11
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Problemcould not resolve20:12
Problemand servers name20:12
jad_Problem: Hoooray :)20:12
Problemwhat does this mean20:12
jad_Ok do you have irssi20:12
Problemcant connect to the internet?20:12
jad_It seems you are removing more and more packages somehow20:13
jad_Problem: Correct20:13
Problemi connect using wifi20:13
Problemhow can i see if i am connected and to what network20:13
Problem(by the way i have the dvd-disc i used to install kubunu, maybe i can repair it with this?)20:14
jad_Problem: You can20:15
jad_!cdrom20:15
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about cdrom20:15
jad_stupid bot :)20:15
Problem!livecd20:15
ubottuThe Ubuntu Desktop CD is a "LiveCD" which can be run without altering existing files on your harddrive. Especially useful for testing your hardware's compatibility, it also includes an install option.20:15
jad_use apt-cdrom to add it to your sources20:15
neoandersenHelp : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8225449#post822544920:16
Problemjad_ ok20:16
Problembut lets try first to connect to my wifi. whats the command to check where i am connected and then connect?20:16
jad_iwconfig scan20:17
Problemdoesnt work20:18
BlueEagleproblem: how does it not work?20:19
jad_neoandersen: I don't understand that links to a solution ?20:19
BlueEagleproblem: ...and which packages were you attempting to download before your distro broke?20:19
Problemiwconfig scan, it says scan no such device20:20
Problemthe command is wrong apparently20:20
BlueEagleproblem: It would rather appear that no drivers are loaded for your driver.20:20
kexmanpfff20:20
BlueEagleproblem: Did you start in safe mode?20:20
kexmanrun into difficulties with kubuntu20:20
kexmani dont know if it was something with flash or not but now i cant install anything20:20
kexmani mean nothing :)20:20
neoandersenjad_: can I paste all here?20:20
BluesKajneoandersen, that command was to find your exact graphics card, not solve yor problem20:21
jad_!paste | neoandersen20:21
ubottuneoandersen: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com (or !pastebinit for CLI) | For pasting !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin Please give us the URLs for your posts!20:21
ProblemBlueEagle: no20:21
BlueEagleproblem: ...and again, which packages were you attempting to install before your system broke?20:21
ProblemBlueEagle the login screen was normal , when i tried to type me name and pass i got a console. btw in sessions i can only see failsafe and default20:22
kexmanhow do i enable XMDCP by default in kubuntu ?20:22
BlueEagleproblem: No, BEFORE that.20:22
BluesKajneoandersen, we need to know your graphics card driver so you can install it to get your X and desktop up and running20:22
BlueEaglequote: 21:05 < Problem> the last thing i did was trying to download some packages20:22
BlueEagleproblem: Which packages were you downloading?20:23
BluesKajI'm not BlueEagle20:23
BlueEagleI'm not blueskaj20:23
Utherboa tarde20:23
neoandersenjad_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/307888/20:24
ProblemBlueEagle the correct command is  sudo iwlist wlan0 scan | less20:25
Utherpessoal, baixei a imagem ISO do Kubuntu 9.10 e gostaria de saber se, depois de queimá-la em um CD, ele roda como LiveCD ?20:25
jad_neoandersen: when you get that screen type fsck /dev/sda*20:25
neoandersenBlueEagle: 01:00.0 VGA Compatible Controler:20:25
neoandersennVidia Corporation G71 [GeForce 7950 GT] (reva1)20:25
jad_neoandersen: when you get that screen type fsck /dev/sd*20:25
BluesKajno BlueEagle , i was responding to neoandersen's request a while ago which he claims was supposed cur his prob, a commnd that I suggested he use20:25
BlueEagleblueskaj: Still. I am not you nor are you me. :)20:25
BlueEagleproblem: No, the correct thing to do is to tell us which packages you downloaded before your system broke. ;)20:26
Problemi tried to get some libs20:26
Problemi dont remember the name20:26
tsimpsonsorry about this...20:27
BlueEagleproblem: Any chance they are still in your .bash_history ?20:27
neoandersenBluesKaj: 01:00.0 VGA Compatible Controler:20:27
neoandersennVidia Corporation G71 [GeForce 7950 GT] (reva1)20:27
BlueEagletsimpson: Is that to take out the DCC-ers sending 0 bytes to port 0?20:28
BluesKajneoandersen, are you using the nvidia-glx-185 driver, if not that's what you need to install20:28
tsimpsonBlueEagle: no, just exempts for proxy users (more to come)20:29
neoandersenBluesKaj: but it's not accessing internet...20:29
neoandersenBluesKaj: it stays in ready only...20:30
jad_Problem: press up on the console to get back the commands you typed in before20:30
jad_BlueEagle: Though I honestly can't think of anythign that conflicts with the KDE libs20:31
n16h7f0xif i have a ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3430  256 mb on my notebook should i configure something manual for opengl capabilities?20:31
neoandersenBluesKaj: aptitude install nvidia-glx-185 will do the job?20:31
ProblemSTOP THIS20:32
BluesKajit won't help you connect to the internet, neoandersen20:32
ProblemEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE20:32
kgeekProblem: wats ur problem dude  le20:32
Problemdont flood it20:32
ubuntuwhere is the add/remove software program in kubuntu these days?20:33
neoandersenBluesKaj: I meant it will make the x enviroment come back?20:33
ubuntulike the software centre in Ubuntu..20:33
BluesKajit's your graphics card driver neoandersen , I got the same prompt a while back but was able to solve it by installing the right driver , but was connected to the internet.20:33
Problemjad_ : i tried to remove this libcurl13-gnutls20:34
Problemlibcurl3-gnutls20:34
kgeekubuntu: which one  u are u using dude20:35
jad_Problem: That would do it dude :)20:35
ubuntu9.1020:35
ubuntumost recent one20:35
kgeekubuntu: OS20:35
neoandersenBluesKaj: it seems the solution is to find out why does this message appears: "unable to mount: Device or resource busy..."20:35
Problemtsimpson_ :can you please dont flood it friend20:35
ubuntuKubuntu :)20:35
Problemjad_ : so this is what is missing?20:36
jad_neoandersen: run fsck /dev/sd* when you get that20:36
ubuntuwhy else ask it here and mention the ubuntu version :P20:36
BluesKajneoandersen, which nvidia driver do you have installed?20:36
ubuntuvariant*20:36
jad_Problem: That removes most of the packages on your system yes20:36
Problemjad_ : at first i tried to autoremove it but i chose y/n (n). and then just removed it20:36
kgeekubuntu: ther  is Kpackage Edit in appplication tab use it directly ..it is software mgmt. tool in kubuntu 9.1020:36
jad_Problem: so sudo apt-get install kubuntu-destop would help. Get a wired connection in the meant time20:36
neoandersenBluesKaj: I am not sure... 180 I guess20:37
Problemjad_ : so to fix it. i insert my rc dvd, do apt-cd and install this lib or just kubuntu-desktop?20:37
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ubuntubut kgeek,  isn't that like the package manager? I want the simple one where you can add programs, not single packages..20:37
ubuntucause I did find that one.. :P20:38
BluesKajneoandersen, ok , are you connected to internet?20:38
kgeekubuntu: goto http://www.futuredesktop.org there u'll get special tools which can do the job u require..20:39
Problemjad_ : would that fix it? to get the lib from the cd?20:39
neoandersenBluesKaj: Yes, I am using kubuntu in the other hd now...20:39
apparlehow do I stop a single package from being upgraded20:39
kgeekapparle: upgrade is gd to health..let it be :P20:40
Problemtsimpson_ : with all respect, what the fuck are you doing?20:41
tsimpson_!language | Problem20:41
ubottuProblem: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.20:41
Seeker`he is clearing out the ban list20:41
BluesKajneoandersen, you need to stop X to ne sure, sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop ,then remove the old 180 driver , and install the nvidia-glx-185 driver . to startx , sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop20:42
Problemjad_ : so?20:42
apparlekgeek: Actually I did a fresh install  of 9.10 and found that radeon driver has bugs so.... I installed the jaunty driver.... no I don't want it to upgrade to karmic package20:42
tsimpsonexempt list, but yes20:42
Seeker`tsimpson: its the same list, isn't it?20:42
BluesKajneoandersen, that last command should be sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start20:43
tsimpsonSeeker`: well exempts are the opposite of bans, they make people exempt from them20:43
jad_Problem: Umm what so?20:44
Problemjad_ : can i just install the lib i removed from my cd?20:44
jad_Problem: yes apt-cdrom and then install kubuntu-desktop20:44
jad_Problem: You have the DVD you said?20:44
Problemjad_ : yes20:44
jad_ OR just the live CD ?20:44
neoandersenBluesKaj: ok, this "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop" but I have gnome istalled too...20:44
jad_Yes the DVD can do that20:44
Problemjad_ : its the livecd_desktop. i just wrote it to dvd20:44
jad_Problem: Ah that's different20:45
neoandersenBluesKaj: and the gnome is default there... it's a mix of Ubuntu, Studio and Kubuntu, edubuntu programs...20:45
Problemjad_ : i downloaded the x64 desktop kubuntu 9.10 rc image20:45
Problemjad_ : around 700mb20:46
BluesKajneoandersen, then substitute gdm in the command and repeat20:46
jad_Problem: Ok can you get a wired connection20:47
apparleI have found a bug in 9.10 how to report it20:48
ProblemProblem : cant we do it from my livecd_desktop?20:48
BluesKaj!bug20:48
ubottuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs - Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots20:48
kgeekProblem: RC y dude have the official   one nw20:49
Problemkgeek what?20:50
apparleBluesKaj: I have removed the buggy package ... so how do I report it now20:51
kgeekProblem: u said u dwnlded RC o kubuntu 9.10 tht's y i said  have official version of 9.01  it's out20:51
BluesKajapparle, read above20:51
kgeekapparle: go o launhpad dude20:51
Problemkgeek : this is the version i installed and then updated the system20:52
kgeekProblem: hmm ..then its alright .20:52
Problemjad_ : any ideas?20:52
jad_Problem: yes if you can get on the wireless from that20:53
Problemjad_ : can we use the cd i have?20:54
slawek__kgeek: error! no 9.01, now is 9.10 !!!!!!!20:54
jad_Problem: as long as you can get on the net yes20:54
kgeekslawek__: wat?20:54
kgeekslawek__: oh that's ma mistake sry!20:55
slawek__no problem!20:55
Problemjad_ : so i insert my cd , do apt-cd, and then what command?20:55
jad_sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop20:56
Problemthanks20:58
Problemand that would be all?20:58
Problemall missing libs20:58
Problemwill be ok?20:58
Problemor i have to install that which i removed20:58
Problemi guess it will be a dependency of kde20:59
aLeSDhow could I change desktob by the keyboard20:59
aLeSD?20:59
jad_yes20:59
kgeekProblem: apt-get resolves all dependencies dude ..be tension free20:59
jad_aLeSD: ctrl+Fn20:59
Problemkgeek : cool21:00
kgeekalexei: ctrl+f1or +f2+ f321:00
K-HyogaHi all, just a fast "hello" from a brand new Kubuntu user :)21:00
Mamarokkgeek: what is flor?21:01
Mamarok!hi | K-Hyoga21:01
ubottuK-Hyoga: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines. Enjoy your stay!21:01
jad_K-Hyoga: Welcome to Kubuntu!21:04
deividhi?? i needhelp installing the fingeprint reader...stuck on editting the common-auth file21:09
jad_deivid: are you following instructions from somewhere?21:09
deividyes21:09
kexmanpfff now my sound is missing21:10
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deividhttp://www.guia-ubuntu.org/index.php?title=Fingerprint_Reader (the spanish version, i guess its the same in eng)21:11
second_nickhi21:11
second_nickhow21:11
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Problematichow21:11
Problematicto make a livecd repositoryu21:12
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aLeSDjad_: I haven't Fn21:13
jad_Zoing: I don't understand the question21:13
jad_aLeSD: n is a number21:13
jad_aLeSD: 1 2 321:13
jad_so ^F1 ^F2 ^F321:13
kexmanisnt there any method to use remote login from a kubuntu livecd ?21:13
aLeSDhey21:13
Zoingjad_ : its problem here. apt-cd failed21:13
aLeSDit works21:13
aLeSD:)21:13
aLeSDtx21:13
Zoingjad_ : is it the correct command?21:13
FloodBotK2aLeSD: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.21:13
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KjetilKare there any major issues with 9.10 that has come up in the last few days that aren't in the release notes?21:15
Pr0blemjad_ : apt-cd isnt the correct command21:15
jad_Pr0blem: It's apt-cdrom21:15
Pr0blemooh ok21:15
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kgeekdoes any budy  faced this problem that ..in this 9.10  it is very difficult to connect to a secured wireless network ..21:16
deividtoo busy around here, well thanks for help anyways im out21:17
GrosSebIs there a tutorial or some resources about reseting KDE mime types to restore the default ones after a strange 9.04 upgrade ?21:17
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Pr0blemjad_ : ok but how to use the command. plain apt-cdrom doesnt do it21:17
BluesKajkgeek, network manager?21:18
kgeekBluesKaj: wat u want  to say ..!!21:18
BlakHat_hi guyz, does anyone know how i can automatically load the uinput driver at bootime and set its permissions in kubuntu?21:19
kgeekBluesKaj: actully i m  nt able to connect to my hostels wireless router .while other people who r u using win box are well connected ,,21:19
BluesKajkgeek, network manager has wpa connect problems , so I use wicd instead21:20
BluesKaj!info wicd | kgeek21:22
ubottukgeek: wicd (source: wicd): wired and wireless network manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.6.1-3ubuntu1 (karmic), package size 415 kB, installed size 2464 kB21:22
jad_Pr0blem: sudo apt-cdrom21:22
kgeekBluesKaj:  ya i used network maneger ..21:23
kgeekBluesKaj: wats wicd.21:23
kgeekBluesKaj: that i did ..bot info ..21:23
kgeekBluesKaj: :p thnx21:24
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Problemitojad_ : it opens a list and says add to add cdrom and some options21:30
Problemito 23:25:15 | <Pr0blem> so its not the full command21:30
Problemitojad_ : it opens a list and says add to add cdrom and some options21:30
Problemito 23:25:15 | <Pr0blem> so its not the full command21:30
FloodBotK2Problemito: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.21:30
jad_If it's the live CD it won't work21:31
Problemitoit is the livecd21:31
neoandersenBluesKaj: nothing worked21:31
BluesKajkgeek, copy and paste this url in your sources.list, deb http://apt.wicd.net karmic extras21:31
kgeekoh fine21:32
kexmanhow can i make my kubuntu have wifi connection right at boot ?21:32
kexman9.0421:32
kgeekBluesKaj: oh thnxx dude i m able to installllllll  it form apt-get ..directly ..without that addition of link to souce list21:32
neoandersenBluesKaj: I have uploaded the outputs in flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/garotobossanova/?saved=121:32
kgeekBluesKaj: it is already their in repository ..21:33
BluesKajkgeek, install wicd , it will autodisable network manager and you can then setup wicd wifi for you secure network21:36
kgeekBluesKaj: actuallly while installing Wcid it is removing network manager..21:37
jad_Problemito: get a wired connection21:38
kgeekBluesKaj:   if it will remoove it then how i'll be able to instal it from apt-get..my wired net will go along with network maneger.!21:38
BluesKajkgeek, networkmanger will work until wicd is installed21:40
kgeekBluesKaj: are u sure !!21:41
BluesKajneoandersen, a clean install of the live cd is prolly in order and you can save your data if you use the manual partitioning option on your /  partition.  That's how I rescued my install from disaster. You may need to reinstall some apps  but their config files will have remained intact so your settings will be retained.'21:42
BluesKajkgeek, yes, if wicd doesn't work you can always re-enable network manager from the widgets or the run box, after removing wicd21:43
kexmanOMG21:44
kexman9.04 = not that good .....21:44
somekoolthats why 9.10 was released21:44
carpii_ive a windows server, and a windows desktop. Im connecting to these from ubuntu via samba, and the server works fine.  The desktop keeps prompting for a username/pwd which I cant provide. How can I fix this?21:44
carpii_On both server and desktop, I did nothing other than share the default admin share for C$21:44
fabrihi21:45
kexmansomekool ... the upgrade option has dissapeared !21:45
neoandersenBluesKaj: I have big unfinished torrent  files on transmission... I can't lose them...21:45
kexmanlogout / login = not helping21:45
kexmanrestarted ....21:45
kexmanits like windows21:45
kexmanbut even sound stopped working :)))))21:45
kexmanjust like that21:45
kexmanit says the .... analog is not working switching to digital ....21:45
kexmanthe soundcard is not working in english :)21:46
fabriin DVD i386 of Koala ther is the Netbook installation?21:46
kexmanhow should i upgrade ?21:46
kexmanfresh install21:46
BluesKajneoandersen, then you just have too many unresolved issues that I'm not able to help you with , sorry :(21:46
GrosSebSorry, but i'm going to ask it once again : is there a tutorial or some resources about reseting KDE mime types to restore the default ones after a strange 9.04 upgrade ?21:46
kexmanhaha its getting better and better21:47
neoandersenBluesKaj: ok thanks21:47
kexmani can only update no upgrade ... purely dissapeared !21:47
Sinkro63hi. I use 9.10 gnome. i wonder if its the same annoing notification area applet in kubuntu?21:47
BluesKajkexman, install update-manager21:48
Sinkro63a black square?21:48
Idhan I need to install gdb 6.8 instead of 7.0.. how can I do that? is for netbeans..they do not support gdb 7.021:48
Sinkro63is thera a black square when You recive a notification in Kbuntu?21:49
kexmanonly for gnome ?21:49
kexmanthis is kubuntu we are in :)21:49
Sinkro63yes21:49
Sinkro63are there a black square when You recive a msg?21:50
Sinkro63yes or no?21:50
Sinkro63in gnome ther is.21:50
Sinkro63but is there in kubuntu?21:50
IdhanSinkro63: which type of msg?21:50
Sinkro63idhan: fx. when you get a message from a friend i pidgin21:51
Sinkro63and you dont have focus on pidgin21:51
Sinkro63or when you got a mail21:52
kexmanshould i run a partial upgrade ?21:52
kexmanthat is what update-manager says21:52
Sinkro63U dont seem toknow what I talking about21:52
gorgonzolahelo. just reinstalled karmic from beta, and jockey is not offering to install propietary drivers. help?21:52
Idhanthat depend of each application.. there isn't a system-try program that capture all these msgs..21:52
Sinkro63eg Kubuntu dont show a black square21:52
Sinkro63no notification area applet?21:53
IdhanSinkro63: yes..they are.. amsn display an icon for messeges and email as example21:53
Idhanevolution is the same..21:54
jwxhow do I change kdm theme? kdmrc? is thee graphical way?21:54
gorgonzolajwx you mean the login manager theme?21:54
Sinkro63ok21:54
Idhanbut each program does it in its own way.. and you can always configurate this mgs21:54
Sinkro63 tnx21:54
jwxgorgonzola: yes21:54
gorgonzolajwx ssytem settings -> advanced -> login manager21:55
gorgonzolajwx ssytem settings -> advanced -> login manager -> theme, actually :)21:55
Sinkro63in gnome You can per application turn it on or of, but when its on this Notification area show an black square as an addition.21:55
Sinkro63very annoing21:55
jwxgorgonzola: thanks =) how could I miss that.. thanks21:56
IdhanSinkro63: sure..but this for sure are only gnome applications..21:56
Sinkro63I have done a fresh install of ubuntu 9.10. should i do a new frsh with kubuntu or is there an other way?21:57
gorgonzolajwx np. enjoy.21:57
kexmanBluesKaj: should i run the partial upgrade that update-manager recommends ?21:57
BluesKajkexman, yes21:58
jwxgorgonzola: I will =) installed kubuntu the other day.. looks great21:58
IdhanSinkro63: you can install kde on ubuntu..as a second graphics enviroment.. however from kde you can install any gnome program.. if you are in gnome, not all the program are supported.. as example I use kile.. you cann't install it..at least not directly from the apt-get21:58
BluesKajkexman, you need to update first, then upgrade21:58
v1ttu_heyyyyyyyyy o/21:59
neoandersenis there a way to undo an unsuccessful upgrade from 8.04 to 9.10?21:59
jwxonly thing left to change is the grub.. says beta and bliks.. not the best first impression lol21:59
v1ttu_ummmmm can i ask about kmail problems here?22:00
BluesKajneoandersen, did you try to go directly from 8.04 to 9.10 ?22:00
ctbAnyone having problems with bad signatures on index files from "http://dk.archive.ubuntu.com karmic-updates Release"?22:00
gorgonzolav1ttu yes, just ask the question , don't ask to ask. :)22:00
gorgonzolaanyone else having problems getting jockey to show drivers?22:01
v1ttu_lol kk22:01
v1ttu_when i try to reply i get this22:01
v1ttu_Your SMTP server does not support The server responded: "INVALID SASL FORMAT OR LENGTH".22:01
v1ttu_wtf does that mean O___022:01
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v1ttu_i gues noone knows </322:04
v1ttu_guess*22:04
C00LARR0wto do full disk encryption i need to use the alternate cd for the install correct?22:07
kexmansuspend to disk doesnt work neither :P22:12
ScuniziI'm on a vm'd version of 9.04 and have done the updates but 4 are held back, linux headers, kernel, restricted extras & image generic.. not just held back but "Blocked" .. Why?22:17
ScuniziThe one option that still exists is to upgrade to 9.10 which I'm currently attempting....22:19
Scuniziaproximate wait time 1 hr 13 minutes on my connection..22:21
Shoshanawhere i can get kubuntu wallpaper default ( the blue ) in some res ?22:25
Shoshanareslution22:25
JontheEchidnaThe folder at /usr/share/wallpapers/Air/contents/images has it in several resolutions22:26
JontheEchidnaScunizi: in 9.04 KPackageKit could not handle updates that installed new packages, which doesn't happen in 9.10 any more22:26
Shoshanai dont have kubuntu i just want the wallpapaer, you can send me please ?22:27
stefanjrklbhello :)22:27
v1ttu_lol kpackagekit ....22:27
JontheEchidnaShoshana: you should be able to just install kdebase-workspace-wallpapers for that22:27
Shoshanai need to write sudo get-apt kdebase-workspace-wallpapers ?22:28
JontheEchidnasudo apt-get install kdebase-workspace-wallpapers22:28
ScuniziJontheEchidna: thanks.. I'll see how the system reacts after the 9.10 upgrade is complete.. I'm not expecting any issues after that but you never know.. kde is certainly looking much better lately (this coming from a 5 yr gnome user.) :)22:28
kutuZovdoes anybody of you know how to change the login windows with ubuntu 9.10? After installing the xubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop package I've always this strange xubuntu login screen and kubuntu splash creen and I want my nice ubuntu theme back.22:28
Shoshanaand then i go to /usr/share/wallpapers/Air/contents/images ?22:28
stefanjrklbWhat deos it mean that I have to add development kit ??22:28
JontheEchidnayeah22:29
JontheEchidnaScunizi: the held back packages should not cause any issues, since KPackageKit doesn't do the actual updating to 9.1022:29
* ctb is away: Gone away for now22:29
dvheumensorry ... but I just *have* to ask ... What's the deal with the moving power management (battery) information in the Battery Monitor plasmoid??? :P22:30
Scunizithanks JontheEchidna... after the upgrade.. just for general info.. does KPackageKit use aptitude or apt ? or is it another?22:30
JontheEchidnaScunizi: It's a KDE frontend for PackageKit22:30
* ctb is back.22:30
JontheEchidnaPackageKit is a cross-distro package system that has backends for apt, rpm, etc22:31
ScuniziJontheEchidna: and packagekit is different then aptitude & apt? what's the basic usage on cli?22:31
JontheEchidnapackagekit doesn't have a cli interface22:31
JontheEchidnaultimately apt, aptitude, packagekit-apt all interface with dpkg22:31
v1ttu_packagekit is a disaster22:31
ScuniziJontheEchidna: ah.. ok.22:32
JontheEchidnalet's just say packagekit fails less in 9.10. ;-) It's very far from perfect still22:33
JontheEchidnabut I've always used apt-get22:34
Scunizitoo bad synaptic didn't get a makeover for kde22:34
roKB!commands22:34
ubottuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal22:34
v1ttu_use the terminal instead of kborkigekit ¬_¬22:34
neoandersenBluesKaj: the last time I had this problem I was going from 8.04 to 8.10 or 9.04 I am not sure...22:35
roKB!next22:35
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about next22:35
* claydoh likes kpackagekit, mostly, it passes the Spouse Test here22:35
neoandersenBluesKaj: but, anyway, in the grub it appears as 8.04 2 since then and now...22:35
roKB!<3 Di_Ana22:35
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about 3 Di_Ana22:35
neoandersenBluesKaj: the last time I just lost the X and now the system is not mounting...22:36
BluesKajneoandersen, you have to install all the versions between 8,04 and 9.10 , by upgrading from 8.04 to 8.10, theen to 9.04, then to 9.10, youcan't skip over any distos22:37
neoandersenBluesKaj: there must be a way to mount it and continue with the upgrade process...22:37
baxeico_Hi guys, I've a problem in Kubuntu 9.10: when I close kontact, I can still see a kontact process in System Activity (together with many kio_http, kio_imap4 and kio_file). If I try to launch kontact again, nothing happens22:37
baxeico_If I kill the kontact process in System Activity, I can launch kontact again22:38
baxeico_any idea?22:38
v1ttu_yea22:38
Scuniziv1ttu_: such verbosity.. you're killing us with detail.. :)22:39
claydohBluesKaj: you can go directly from 8.04 to 9.10 directly: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KarmicUpgrades/Kubuntu/8.0422:39
claydohI don't know how ell tested it is, tho I had success using a bone-stock vanilla 8.0422:40
v1ttu_what more detail do you need for that question?22:41
BluesKajclaydoh, hmm , thatlooks like an ordinary clean install to me , with existing backup of apps in 8.10, with some help from the alternate installer cd, not an ordinary netupde/upgrade from the command line22:43
neoandersenI am without sound here on kubuntu on youtube...22:45
BluesKajclaydoh, i suspect that someone was advised to change the sources.list to karmic then do the upgrade from 8.10 , not a workable solution.22:45
v1ttu_neo how did you install flash?22:46
NicoAJHi! Does anybody know how to configure KMail so as to have each "set" of folders [Mailbox+OutBox+Drafts+etc] for each account ?22:47
neoandersenv1ttu_: there's no need to flash if your firefox is 3.522:47
v1ttu_i see i dont use firefox22:47
v1ttu_are you using 64 bit?22:47
neoandersenyesh22:47
neoandersenyes22:47
v1ttu_how did you install flash?22:48
neoandersenwhat is the comand to see if my kubuntu is amd64 or  i386?22:48
v1ttu_sudo uname -a22:48
Scunizineoandersen: lsb_release -a22:48
robo78sup22:48
Scuniziper22:49
v1ttu_2 ways? spoilt for choice :p22:49
Scuniziit's a good thing22:49
ulysses__neoandersen: uname -m22:49
neoandersenit shows x86_6422:50
BluesKajor uname -a for more info22:50
dvheumen'lsb_release -a' doesn't show proc. architecture for me22:51
baxeico_thank you anyway. I'm going to fill a bug report22:51
neoandersenis x86_64 a mix of i386 and amd64?22:51
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ulysses__no, its called from historical reason to amd6422:52
Scunizidvheumen: doesn't for me either.... appologies to v1ttu_& neoandersen .. for some reason that stuck in my head.22:52
BluesKajneoandersen, no that's 6422:52
claydohBluesKaj: the 8.04-9.10 instructions are for both methods, and is officially supported22:52
dvheumenScunizi, well, no prob, ofcourse ;)22:52
BluesKajclaydoh, ok good to know , thanks for the tip :)22:53
neoandersenwhat is a good book to learn about the ubuntu OS structure?22:53
v1ttu_neo how did you install flash??22:54
NicoAJany hints for Kmail?22:54
Vlado9A3CYneoandersen: the best book is google :)22:55
neoandersenv1ttu_: I use more ubuntu then I just go to synaptic and search for flash plugin...22:55
baxeico_here it is: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdepim/+bug/47185422:55
neoandersenyou can search for gecko22:56
verrucktнарод, здорово, кто может подсказать правильную схему настройки локалхоста22:56
neoandersenthere are non-free flash plaugin for amd64 in the adobe site...22:56
Scunizineoandersen: I think it's called the ubuntu reference guide that is freely available as a pdf download.. is a good place to start.  Also search for references on scribd.com .. B&N & Amazon have tons of stuff22:57
ShoshanaThere is possible like in windows 7 (mini preview / eliipse tabs) example : http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/8396/74754754858.jpg22:57
ulysses__there's a book called Ubuntu Pocket Guide, can be download free from amazon, if I remember good22:58
ulysses__Shoshana: try Smooth STasks plasmoid, it can be installed via KPackageKit22:58
BluesKajtime to put the aptop away for another day22:58
ulysses__uhm, I failed, I found only stasks...:P22:59
ulysses__this is it: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Smooth+Tasks?content=10158623:00
ScuniziWhile pointing at the above link and getting the thumbnail.. it shows a Windows registry cleaner ad but when you go to the site .. it's not there.. how does that happen?23:04
ShoshanaThere is possible like in windows 7 (mini preview / eliipse tabs) example : http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/8396/74754754858.jpg23:05
ShoshanaThere is possible like in windows 7 (mini preview / eliipse tabs) example : http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/8396/74754754858.jpg23:12
yofelShoshana: it is possible to have window thumbnails when hovering taskbar entries, but they aren't klickable (yet) like in W723:14
insulinahello, i just installed the last kubunto on my pc. how do i put wireless network working ? I am trying to use knetworkmanager but I cant connect ...23:19
insulinaI am trying to connect to wpa2/tkip23:19
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yofelinsulina: do you see any wireless networks?23:21
insulinayes23:21
insulinai see mine23:21
yofeland where does it fail?23:22
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yofelinsulina: did you say something?  Got disconnected for a moment23:25
Scuniziyofel: he/she said that they see their own network23:30
insulina_i am he23:31
Scuniziinsulina: I would turn off all wpa/wep encryption and then connect.. once connected you should be able to go back and redo the encryption on the router then edit the connection on Kubuntu23:33
insulina_humm , i will try23:34
insulina_in my last computer i had to compile something in the kernel to have tkip suport ... do i have to do it in kubunto ?23:34
Scuniziinsulina: not sure if that is already implemented in 9.10 or not.. wireless is getting better.. so best just to try23:35
yofelinsulina: when you place your mouse over the kNM icon in the systray while it's connecting it should tell you what it's doing right now. What's the last thing it tries?23:35
insulina_i will try to reboot my router ...23:38
jeiworthgeez and i was bughunting big time to get my speakers working again after karmic upgrade where only the jack-output worked but not the lap-speakers just to find out that after the upgrade the speakers-output-level was reset to 0 :P23:48
insulina__didnt work, i also try wep , and didnt work :(23:50
jeiworthbut amarok still doesn't start :(23:53
n16h7f0xdo i have to install any other packages for my ati hd 4340 video card for opengl to work on 9.10 or it works by default (please excuse my eng and advice)23:53

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