[00:01] <EagleScreen> huntz23: you loose your Linux installation?
[00:02] <huntz23> well yeah and no
[00:02] <huntz23> I lost grub on reinstall of windows
[00:02] <EagleScreen> did you install Windows after Linux?
[00:02] <huntz23> yes
[00:02] <EagleScreen> then now you only can boot Windows
[00:02] <huntz23> correct
[00:03] <EagleScreen> you need a Linux Live CD to repair grub installation
[00:03] <huntz23> and I am trying to fix it with the live disk and its not goin so well
[00:03] <EagleScreen> you need to mount the Linux root partition
[00:03] <EagleScreen> (in Live enviroment)
[00:04] <huntz23> right and apparently me or the disk is having issue..laf
[00:04] <EagleScreen> and for this example, I will supose that it is mounted in /media/root
[00:05] <huntz23> right
[00:05] <EagleScreen> then you need to reinstall grub with this command: sudo grub-install -root-directory=/media/root '(hd0)'
[00:06] <EagleScreen> double -
[00:06] <EagleScreen> sudo grub-install --root-directory=/media/root '(hd0)'
[00:06] <EagleScreen> sorry
[00:06] <huntz23> hmmm
[00:06] <EagleScreen> this will install grub files in your Linux root artition and will load grub in MBR
[00:07] <huntz23> so 'mount hdb1 /media/root' right
[00:07] <huntz23> hdb1 is my linux install
[00:08] <EagleScreen> /media/root must be created
[00:08] <huntz23> right mkdir /media/root
[00:09] <huntz23> ah, I am missing something
[00:10] <EagleScreen> any problem?
[00:10] <huntz23> yeah its not recognizing my hard drives, I think I missed a command
[00:10] <oscar___> can someoen tell me how to stop grub from loading when I start the computer?
[00:11] <EagleScreen> are your partitions listed in /dev?
[00:11] <EagleScreen> oscar___: do you mean, stop the timer?
 yes it does
[00:13] <EagleScreen> then they are detected
[00:14] <EagleScreen> with 'df -h' you can list mounted partitions
[00:14] <huntz23> oops my bad might help if I went /dev/hdb1 isntead of hdb1
[00:14] <EagleScreen> with 'sudo fdisk -l' you can list all partitions
[00:14] <EagleScreen> mount /dev/hdb1 /media/root
[00:14] <fencersbeatngu>  I just installed fedora in other partition appart from ubuntu, and then recovered my grub, but want to add fedora to that grub
[00:14] <huntz23> right and the asterisked one is my linux boot partition right
[00:15] <EagleScreen> fencersbeatngu: read grub wiki page
[00:15] <fencersbeatngu> lol i tried
[00:16] <MBSTO> :O
[00:16] <fencersbeatngu>  but what is close is adding linux
[00:16] <fencersbeatngu>  i mean windows
[00:18] <EagleScreen> fencersbeatngu: are u using grub2 or grub-legacy?
 do I still us sudo grub-install --root-directory=/media/root '(hd0)'
[00:19] <huntz23> or is hd0 replaced by hdb1?
[00:21] <EagleScreen> it is always '(hd0)'
[00:21] <EagleScreen> hd0 means load to MBR
[00:21] <huntz23> ok that might have been my mistake
[00:21] <EagleScreen> sure
[00:21] <kooolanl> :)
[00:21] <huntz23> ok, brb, let you know if it worked
[00:23] <KDesk> hi, in karmic, every time a new kernel gets instlled, grub2 puts two entry of the same kernel, so with one kernel I have minimum 4 entries (normal, recovery and a  copy of both), also a compy of memtest and all other kernels. Do you know what can I do so that grub doesn't write twice the entry every time?
[00:25] <Bsims> I have two problems, I can't get the capslock/numlock lights to come on my keyboard can anyone else confirm, and I can't get kde to ring the actual system bell... I am running Karmic Ubuntu
[00:27] <KooolaNL> hey
[00:28] <KooolaNL> how do u make ubuntu 32bit make use of 4gb instead of just 3 (my lappy has 4)
[00:29] <krnl> hi
[00:30] <krnl> how can i mount a hd permanently in kubuntu without editinig fstabM
[00:30] <krnl> ?
[00:30] <dtchen> KooolaNL: do you have linux-image-generic-pae installed?
[00:30] <KooolaNL> dtchen dont know
[00:30] <KooolaNL> i have a fresh install of 9.10 32bit cd  and i did some updates
[00:32] <fencersbeatngu>  I just installed fedora in other partition appart from ubuntu, and then recovered my grub, but want to add fedora to that grub
[00:32] <alteroo> krnl: Why the no editing fstab restriction?
[00:33] <krnl> alteroo: i put there lines but after reboot, it didn't mount, i guess i do something wrong, and try to do it other way.
[00:34] <KDesk> krnl: which lines do you put?
[00:34] <krnl> KDesk: /dev/sdb1 /root/HD auto relatime,errors=remount-ro 0 1
[00:35] <alteroo> krnl: lets review the lines. Can You pastebin it
[00:35] <carpii_> ok so when you say 'no fstab' you mean, you need to find out how to mount it properly, rather than 'i cant use fstab'
thanks, just another lessons that a few letters can get ya
[00:35] <alteroo> krnl: You can test it without reboot by the way
[00:35] <krnl> carpii_: you are right :)
[00:35] <krnl> alteroo: how can i test it?
[00:35] <alteroo> sudo mount -a
[00:35] <KDesk> krnl: ah, which file system has it?
[00:35] <krnl> KDesk: vfat
[00:36] <krnl> fat32
[00:36] <Bsims> I have two problems, I can't get the capslock/numlock lights to come on my keyboard can anyone else confirm, and I can't get kde to ring the actual system bell... I am running Karmic Ubuntu
[00:36] <buckethead> works for me.. Bsims. What type of system?
[00:37] <krnl> with mount -a, it works. dont know what could be that :) i'm going to reboot to check if its really ok, thanks for advices :)
[00:37] <alteroo> Bsims: can the system ring the bell?
[00:37] <Huntz23> whats the command to find out which version of Kubuntu your running?
[00:38] <Bsims> when I click the test system bell button in kde it makes a tone through the headphones not the actuall system bell
[00:38] <KDesk> lsb_release -a
[00:38] <alteroo> Huntz23: lsb_release -a or cat /etc/issue
[00:38] <Bsims> alteroo: and echo -e "\a" does nothing
[00:39] <alteroo> Bsims: I'll just make a note that echo \a isn't KDE :)
[00:39] <nomopofomo> hi  can someone helpme figure out how to install the device manager plasmoid? i can run cmake, make and make install, no errors but i don't know how to actually install the thing!
[00:39] <Bsims> alteroo: I did turn the volume for system speaker to max in alsaconf
[00:39] <Huntz23> thanks KDesk and alteroo
[00:39] <Bsims> alteroo: it's the console way of forcing a beep
[00:40] <KDesk> Bsims for the keyboard light check System Settings, in Keyboard and Mouse
[00:40] <Bsims> alteroo: and my other issue is, minor, but really annoying... I can't get the capslock/numlights to turn on
[00:40] <Bsims> KDesk: I did
[00:40] <alteroo> nomopofomo: You are installing from trunk?
[00:40] <Bsims> No love, and it doesn't work in gnome or wmaker either
[00:40] <nomopofomo> alteroo: from source, idk what trunk means
[00:40] <Bsims> KDesk: and apport takes ages to gather any info to file a kernel bug report
[00:41] <alteroo> Bsims: Yes I know I"m just saying that if that isn't working either your system speakers arenot hooked up or your system doesn't come with one
[00:41] <KDesk> Bsims: hmm, in my pc I active that option but the light is off until I press Shift or something like that works. lol
[00:41] <alteroo> nomopofomo: Trunk is the latest source available
[00:41] <Bsims> alteroo: it worked in jaunty... and I built my machine I know it has one, and it works... it beeps on boot
[00:42] <alteroo> Bsims: Ok well I would say hit up #alsa
[00:42] <krnl> re
[00:42] <Bsims> alteroo: that sounds reasonable
[00:42] <nomopofomo> alteroo: i downloaded the source from kde-looks.org which i believe is the latest
[00:42] <Bsims> I'll kill and restart X too, I just removed pulse so flash would actually work <g>
[00:42] <krnl> i rebooed the computer, and it didn't mount the HD printed in fstab, however mount -a works. do you have any idea how could this happen? :)
[00:43] <alteroo> nomopofomo: I don't think it is. wait which device manager are you talking about?
[00:43] <nomopofomo> alteroo: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Device+Manager?content=106051
[00:43] <alteroo> krnl: did you use real tabs ?
[00:43] <krnl> http://pastebin.com/m73d2a04a
[00:43] <krnl> alteroo: sry, i don't exactly know what are real tabs
[00:44] <alteroo> krnl: there are columns in the /etc/fstab
[00:44] <alteroo> the spaces between the entries in the columns did you use spacebar or did you press tab
[00:44] <alteroo> they need to be real tabs
[00:45] <krnl> i check it.
[00:46] <krnl> no i used spaces. :)
[00:46] <krnl> going to retry :)
[00:48] <alteroo> nomopofomo: Ah I know this one it's in trunk :) they merged it so it comes with KDE by default now
[00:48] <alteroo> Hold on a moment let me look at it
[00:50] <nomopofomo> alteroo: thanks
[00:50] <alteroo> nomopofomo: Where did you say you had reached?
[00:51] <nomopofomo> alteroo: i can run all the way up to make install but then i have no idea how to actually use the plasmoid
[00:52] <alteroo> nomopofomo: Isn't there a README In the source?
[00:52] <alteroo> or an INSTALL
[00:53] <nomopofomo> alteroo: neither
[00:53] <alteroo> nomopofomo: Ok One moment
[00:55] <nikitis> So what's with Coniacal not supporting some software any longer?
[00:56] <nomopofomo> like what?
[00:56] <nikitis> gcc
[00:56] <alteroo> nikitis: Huh?
[00:56] <nikitis> i'm doing a dist-upgrade and it came up with information saying the company is no longer supporting the following software
[00:56] <alteroo> nomopofomo: http://www.kde-look.org/help/index.php?type=70
[00:56] <nikitis> and it's a few linux packages
[00:57] <nikitis> Stuff like Cupsddk, gcc, etc
[00:57] <alteroo> nikitis: They probably mean older versions of gcc
[00:57] <alteroo> !info gcc
[00:57] <nomopofomo> alteroo: that doesn't help, i followed that instructions
[00:57] <nikitis> hmm
[00:57] <alteroo> IT's there and in main so that's supported :)
[00:58] <nikitis> Should be re-worded then
[00:58] <alteroo> nomopofomo: Log out and back in and see if it's in the list?
[00:58] <nomopofomo> alteroo: tried that
[00:59] <alteroo> nomopofomo: Try in #kde
[01:00] <nomopofomo> nobody knows
[01:01] <alteroo> HA ha ok what does it out put do you get a new .dsktop file in the directory?
[01:02] <nomopofomo> yeah and a .so file
[01:02] <DoubleD84> anyone use cdemu?
[01:03] <alteroo> Whee ok now comes the fun part to hunt down te other plasmoids and see where they are
[01:04] <Taggnostr> hello
[01:04] <nomopofomo> what is the file extension for a plasmoid?
[01:06] <alteroo> nomopofomo: It's a .desktop
[01:06] <alteroo> which describes the file and where the info for it is
[01:06] <alteroo> see /usr/share/kde(4)/applications/plasma/plasmoids
[01:08] <nomopofomo> alteroo: omg ok so su -c "make install" works better than sudo make install apparently
[01:08] <nomopofomo> no clue why
[01:08] <Taggnostr> I have kubuntu 9.04 and I'm trying to upgrade to 9.10 but kpackage manager crashes when I click on "continue", and apt-get dist-upgrade doesn't see 9.10, is there any other way to upgrade?
[01:08] <nomopofomo> alteroo: sorry
[01:08] <alteroo> nomopofomo: Wheee :) so it works now?
[01:08] <alteroo> nomopofomo: su -c is actually root
[01:08] <alteroo> sudo is not
[01:08] <alteroo> It may make a difference to the system/command
[01:08] <nomopofomo> i see
[01:09] <alteroo> Taggnostr: sudo do-release-upgrade
[01:09] <Taggnostr> alteroo, ok
[01:10] <alteroo> Taggnostr: you should use that instead of dist-upgrade for the ubuntu family of distros
[01:11] <Taggnostr> I've never heard of that command, I'll keep it in mind for the next time, thanks
[01:13] <alteroo> Taggnostr: it's the server upgrade routine :-)
[01:14] <neversleep> hello
[01:14] <BluesKaj> alteroo, that command doesn't edit the sources.list to upgrade to the new version , so the update-manager is the safest method
[01:14] <neversleep> i have problem with the madwifi in 9.10
[01:14] <neversleep> somebody help?
[01:15] <alteroo> hi CPrgmSwR2
[01:15] <alteroo> BluesKaj: Did for me
[01:15] <alteroo> nomopofomo: joy|?
[01:15] <BluesKaj> let's hope you don't have any problems
[01:15] <nomopofomo> alteroo: sort of...  the  plasmoid seems to be having some issues
[01:16] <neversleep> the wireless have problem
[01:16] <alteroo> BluesKaj: please tell Taggnostr about a better method if there is one
[01:16] <Taggnostr> now is probably already too late
[01:16] <alteroo> neversleep: What kind
[01:17] <BluesKaj> Taggnostr, update-manager is the safest method
[01:17] <Taggnostr> but I can add the sources manually later
[01:17] <alteroo> Taggnostr: As long as your hardware it working it's not too late :-)
[01:17] <Taggnostr> BluesKaj, does that start the gui?
[01:17] <neversleep> alteroo i put madwifi driver for my atheros
[01:17] <neversleep> and dont work
[01:18] <nomopofomo> ok time for more questions
[01:18] <nomopofomo> i'm having a problem with amarok freezing at 41% of scanning my collection every time
[01:18] <BluesKaj> Taggnostr, alt+f2 , update-manager
[01:18] <Taggnostr> BluesKaj, it's still downloading the things, maybe I can interrupt that and try
[01:18] <neversleep> eversleep@neversleep-laptop:~/Public/madwifi-trunk-r4099-20090929$ modprobe ath_pci
[01:18] <neversleep> WARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist, it will be ignored in a future release.
[01:18] <neversleep> WARNING: Error inserting wlan (/lib/modules/2.6.31-14-generic/net/wlan.ko): Operation not permitted
[01:18] <neversleep> FATAL: Error inserting ath_pci (/lib/modules/2.6.31-14-generic/net/ath_pci.ko): Operation not permitted
[01:18] <neversleep> neversleep@neversleep-laptop:~/Public/madwifi-trunk-r4099-20090929$
[01:19] <BluesKaj> Taggnostr, no ,leave it alone ..let it finish
[01:20] <alteroo> neversleep: which atheros?
[01:20] <Taggnostr> so, should I do the update-manager now or later when the do-release-upgrade is done?
[01:20] <neversleep> can help any one with the method activation of madwifi?
[01:20] <neversleep> yes alteroo
[01:21] <neversleep> Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR5001 Wireless Network Adapter
[01:21] <BluesKaj> Taggnostr,. let the do-release-upgrade finish , you may not need update-manager
[01:21] <alteroo> neversleep: try sudo modprobe auth_pci
[01:21] <Taggnostr> BluesKaj, ok
[01:21] <alteroo> BluesKaj: can you do update-manager -d ?
[01:21] <neversleep> neversleep@neversleep-laptop:~/Public/madwifi-trunk-r4099-20090929$ sudo modprobe auth_pci
[01:21] <neversleep> [sudo] password for neversleep:
[01:21] <neversleep> WARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist, it will be ignored in a future release.
[01:21] <neversleep> FATAL: Module auth_pci not found.
[01:22] <alteroo> neversleep: try sudo modprobe ath_pci
[01:22] <alteroo> sorry
[01:22] <harrison> Hi, is there a command to find information about a specific file in /dev. Say I want to find out information about /dev/sda1 is there a command like 'information /dev/sda1'
[01:22] <harrison> Originally I was trying to find out the file for the device listed in lsusb, so say I plug a usb drive in, I run lsusb and then I can find out the /dev/sdaxx address for it
[01:22] <BluesKaj> alteroo, update-manager -d is for development versions only
[01:24] <alteroo> BluesKaj: Well that's when I normally update :)
[01:24] <neversleep> i need a right method to activate it for sure
[01:24] <neversleep> i am in google 6 hours
[01:24] <neversleep> :/
[01:24] <alteroo> harrison: If it's mounted just ype mount
[01:24] <alteroo>  it will tell you the device and where it's mounted to
[01:25] <harrison> What if it isn't mounted, alteroo?
[01:25] <alteroo> neversleep: did sudo moodprobe ath_pci work ?
[01:25] <alteroo> harrison: it's likely the latest sd device
[01:25] <BluesKaj> alteroo, well you'll have to wait for a month for lucid (lunatic) lynx
[01:25] <neversleep> i right what the terminal say
[01:25] <alteroo> BluesKaj: Lynx are a little lunatic
[01:25] <neversleep> neversleep@neversleep-laptop:~/Public/madwifi-trunk-r4099-20090929$ sudo modprobe auth_pci
[01:25] <neversleep> [sudo] password for neversleep:
[01:25] <neversleep> WARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist, it will be ignored in a future release.
[01:25] <neversleep> FATAL: Module auth_pci not found.
[01:26] <alteroo> neversleep: paste bin it
[01:26] <BluesKaj> that's just my opinion, alteroo
[01:26] <alteroo> neversleep: No that's auth_pci
[01:26] <alteroo> neversleep: try sudo moodprobe ath_pci
[01:26] <alteroo> BluesKaj: They are feline so the moon does affect them :-)
[01:26] <harrison> alteroo: Is there a way to know 100% correctly rather than just figuring out the most likely device?
[01:27] <neversleep> neversleep@neversleep-laptop:~/Public/madwifi-trunk-r4099-20090929$ sudo modprobe ath_pci
[01:27] <neversleep> WARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist, it will be ignored in a future release.
[01:27] <alteroo> harrison: Sure but that's more a question for #hal
[01:27] <alteroo> neversleep: You should be ok now
[01:27] <alteroo> BluesKaj: What makes it lunatic in your opinion?
[01:27] <neversleep> no wireless network found :/
[01:27] <harrison> alteroo: I'm not sure that I would know what to ask over there to be honest
[01:28] <neversleep> i have done this and later nothing happen :/
[01:29] <BluesKaj> alteroo, dunno , I just think it sounds better
[01:29] <BluesKaj> :)
[01:29] <neversleep> alteroo atheros with madwifi you have?
[01:29] <alteroo> harrison: How can you knowing information about a device find out which dev file it's associated with
[01:29] <alteroo> BluesKaj: I find it funny that it will be KTS
[01:29] <alteroo> LTS
[01:30] <harrison> I'll give that a go, thanks for your help alteroo
[01:31] <neversleep> i must do restart?
[01:31] <alteroo> neversleep: no
[01:31] <nomopofomo> having a problem with amarok :( it freezes at 41% of scanning my library all the time
[01:31] <alteroo> !atheros
[01:31] <alteroo> nomopofomo: #amarok
[01:31] <alteroo> They would have better diagnostics
[01:32] <neversleep> all my multimedia works and i have problem with madwifi
[01:32] <neversleep> is ironic?
[01:32] <neversleep> yes it is
[01:32] <nomopofomo> alteroo: yeah but so may more people in here ;)
[01:32] <The_Journey> I need help, amorak doesn't make any sound when I try to play a file, but I know my sound works because I can listen to videos on youtube. Can someone help me?
[01:33] <neversleep> update the codecs
[01:33] <The_Journey> how?
[01:35] <alteroo> The_Journey: instal libxine1-ffmpeg
[01:35] <neversleep> alteroo i want to kiss you dude
[01:35] <neversleep> you sent me lucky
[01:35] <alteroo> neversleep: did you read the wifi docs?
[01:35] <neversleep> no ok
[01:35] <alteroo> neversleep: works?
[01:36] <neversleep> yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
[01:36] <alteroo> neversleep: ok fine but on the cheek
[01:36] <neversleep> at preferences i must be put madwifi driver
[01:36] <alteroo> ah right
[01:36] <neversleep> and ath0 in wlan0
[01:36] <neversleep> yeah
[01:36] <neversleep> woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow
[01:37] <neversleep> after restart it will works?
[01:37] <alteroo> neversleep: No clue :-) did you blacklist the old drivers?
[01:37] <neversleep> a think so
[01:37] <neversleep> i think so
[01:38] <neversleep> can i do it again now?
[01:38] <neversleep> the ath5k scares me
[01:38] <neversleep> i have done it black list
[01:38] <alteroo> neversleep: reboot and let us see what it does
[01:40] <neversleep> i am start the reboot
[01:40] <neversleep> the god with me
[01:43] <BenPA> Blueskaj: I have not resolved my grub issue in 9.10 but have filed a manual bug report in LaunchPad
[01:44] <BenPA> Blueskaj: supergrub did not work but there is information under Ubuntu grub2
[01:45] <Jevon> So, the only way for me to move back to 8.04 is a clean reinstall right?
[01:46] <alteroo> Jevon: Only easy way
[01:46] <Jevon> figures
[01:46] <BluesKaj> BenPA, yeah, I just saw that supergrub's latest live cd isn't very good
[01:46] <jepong> hello... what is the -dbg package for kopete and konversation?
[01:46] <alteroo> Jevon: What is the rproblem ?
[01:46] <Jevon> well, I finally got stuff to somewhat the way i like... then i tried to run blender
[01:47] <jepong> want to report about the crash i encountered
[01:47] <Jevon> and I use blender almost every day
[01:47] <BenPA> Blueskaj: there are a ton of issues with grub and the new grub2
[01:47] <The_Journey> alteroo, amarok still doesn't make any sound after i installed that
[01:47] <alteroo> The_Journey: You closed it and restarted it?
[01:48] <BluesKaj> BenPA, so you're on your jaunty install now ?
[01:48] <The_Journey> alteroo, yea
[01:48] <BenPA> Blueskaj: no, still on livecd Knoppix
[01:49] <alteroo> The_Journey: Ok get http://www.vorbis.com/music/Mists_of_Time-4T.ogg
[01:49] <BenPA> Blueskaj: I also have a PC with Linux Mint that is working
[01:49] <alteroo> Play that and see if you have sound
[01:49] <alteroo> Jevon: I'm waiting on the caveat
[01:49] <The_Journey> yea that plays
[01:49] <Jevon> I will give KDE4 one final test by running a memtest to ensure all 2gb are working up to par
[01:49] <CPrgmSwR2> hey alteroo
[01:49] <The_Journey> alteroo, I can hear sound from that link
[01:49] <alteroo> The_Journey: it's your codecs then
[01:50] <alteroo> what are you trying to play ?
[01:50] <The_Journey> alteroo, what is a codec?
[01:50] <BluesKaj> BenPA, have you tried the error 15 fixes on the net , there are quite a few how to's for grub, but not much for grub2
[01:50] <The_Journey> an mp3 file
[01:50] <alteroo> The_Journey: you installed libxine1-ffmpeg ?
[01:50] <BenPA> Blueskaj: yes, I have been at this for 2 days now
[01:50] <The_Journey> yea
[01:50] <Jevon> When rotating one of my high-poly files, my framrate dropped to 2/s
[01:50] <alteroo> Jevon: What's wrong with blender?
[01:50] <alteroo> Jevon: Ah .. What video card?
[01:51] <alteroo> how are you CPrgmSwR2 ?
[01:51] <Jevon> ATI Radeon x1270
[01:51] <CPrgmSwR2> alteroo: okay
[01:51] <alteroo> The_Journey: A codec is what allows us to put audio and video information in a small file and then play it back
[01:51] <BenPA> Blueskaj: this is the worse problem I have had to date .... usually you guys can help right away
[01:51] <alteroo> The_Journey: it stands for code and decode.
[01:52] <jepong> hello... what is the -dbg package for kopete and konversation?
[01:52] <CPrgmSwR2> alteroo: been trying to get over this illness, Although its not confirmed, I have a high reason to believe I just got through fighting the swine flu
[01:52] <CPrgmSwR2> konversation is an awsome irc client
[01:52] <alteroo> jepong: kdelibs-dbg ?
[01:52] <BluesKaj> BenPA, yeah , it's troublesome , usually ppl get past the grub issue with just a few commnds and grub-updates
[01:52] <alteroo> Jevon: Do you have desktop effects on ?
[01:53] <The_Journey> alteroo, should I install GStreamer?
[01:53] <alteroo> The_Journey: try log out and back in
[01:53] <CPrgmSwR2> is it prehaps something like kdenetwork-dbg?
[01:53] <BenPA> Blueskaj: If I could get to someway of running the commands I think it would be ok
[01:53] <jepong> alteroo: thank you!
[01:54] <Jevon> I turned them off, might do a disable restart
[01:54] <alteroo> Jevon: hmm ok
[01:54] <BluesKaj> BenPA, there has to be a fix and some of our grub and install guru's take weekends off , but they should be back tomorrow. ...I hope.
[01:55] <CPrgmSwR2> I have also been battling a sound issue with the new release of kubuntu
[01:55] <BenPA> Blueskaj: I can wait ...
[01:55] <CPrgmSwR2> Discoverd I have sound through my headphones, but I don't have any sound through my speakers.
[01:56] <BluesKaj> well tv time with wifey ...BBL
[01:57] <BenPA> Blueskaj: thanks for your help
[01:58] <asobi>  how can i get konqueror to show details when i hover mouse over mp3 files like kde3 where it displays the mp3 tag?
[01:59] <warlock85> hello all I just install kubuntu on my laptop and I am trying to use the VPN ItsHidden how do I do this?
[02:03] <warlock85> hello? anybody?
[02:04] <warlock85> can anybody answer my question?
[02:06] <asobi> jaunty? karmic?
[02:06] <warlock85> kubuntu 9.10
[02:06] <asobi> my guess is you have to add the nm widget
[02:06] <Lord_Drachenblut> warlock85: i have been trying to get it going with kvpnc with out much luck
[02:07] <warlock85> Network Manager wiget?
[02:07]  * asobi has jaunty
[02:07] <asobi> with kde4
[02:08] <asobi> that's my guess
[02:09] <Lord_Drachenblut> asobi: I would have imagined that kvpnc would be the way to go but i could be mistaken.  I'm using wicd on the laptop since i have had constant issue with the builtin network manager
[02:09] <asobi> yes, nm had A LOT of problems, wicd seems to be the best way to go for most people
[02:09] <asobi> you should also know that i am really a kubuntu newb... ~_~
[02:13] <kai87689> Can anyone help me with new install of Kubuntu, 9.10 broke bluetooth what happened ?
[02:15] <CPrgmSwR2> lovely
[02:16] <Huntz23> what is the latest LTS ubuntu?
[02:18] <kai87689> CPrgmSwR2: Yeh it's great ! No problems in 8.10 and 9.04 might just go back to 9.04 then  ; )
[02:19] <warlock85> Oh My Gosh someone needs to create a VPN for linux this is driving me crazy!!!
[02:19] <The_Journey> how do I install driver for my soundcard? It's C-Media CMI8738
[02:24] <Huntz23> anyone in here familiar with differences between LTS and non-LTS
[02:25] <Kage_Jittai> Huntz23: yes
[02:25] <Kage_Jittai> LTS = Long term support
[02:25] <Huntz23> yes
[02:25] <denel> gde russkiy narod? :)
[02:25] <Huntz23> I am upgrading from EOL, with was a non LTS
[02:25] <Kage_Jittai> means any distro that is LTS is supported (bug fixes and security fixes for 5 years)
[02:26] <Kage_Jittai> while Non-LTS is only support for 1 year (I think)
[02:26] <Huntz23> so its an adventure for sure, coming from 6.10
[02:26] <Jevon> I upgraded from 8.04, and more than likely going back
[02:26] <Jevon> it is a difference though
[02:27] <Huntz23> but what I am after is once get into an LTS will I be fine there if I so decide till the next LTS?
[02:27] <Kage_Jittai> Huntz23: 8.10 will be supported until 2013 (IIRC)
[02:27] <CPrgmSwR2> hopefully 10-04 well fix many of the issues 9.10 created
[02:27] <Huntz23> or is there differences in operations from non-LTS to LTS?
[02:28] <Jevon> not really, you just get more updates for longer
[02:28] <Kage_Jittai> Huntz23: no, the only difference is the software is older
[02:28] <Kage_Jittai> less features
[02:28] <Huntz23> and 8.10 is the most recent LTS?
[02:28] <Kage_Jittai> yes
[02:29] <Jevon> are 8.04 and 8.10 virtually identical
[02:29] <Kage_Jittai> Jevon: no
[02:29] <Jevon> what did they change between them
[02:29] <Taggnostr> alteroo, BluesKaj, the upgrade ended, but now I'm having some problem with the wireless connection
[02:29] <The_Journey> how do I install driver for my soundcard? It's C-Media CMI8738
[02:30] <Taggnostr> if I click on the tray icon there I can see the access point but when I click on it nothing happens
[02:30] <Taggnostr> and the tray icon keep saying 'unavailable'
[02:31] <Jevon> I also have wireless problems
[02:32] <Taggnostr> I don't know if it's related to kdewallet though, when it started it appeared in a different window, and then it asked me the password for the wireless instead of reading it from the wallet
[02:33] <Jevon> I never had any problems after I disabled/uninstalled kwallet
[02:34] <alteroo> !sound | The_Journey
[02:35] <Taggnostr> if I click on the tray icon it shows the name of the access point, and when I click on it I can see for a fraction of second "activating.." appearing after that and then it disappear and return as it was before
[02:35] <Taggnostr> is there a way to connect from the terminal?
[02:36] <Izinucs> Taggnostr: do you have wep, wpa or is ssid off on your router?
[02:37] <The_Journey> alteroo, where can I go to K Menu?
[02:37] <Taggnostr> I don't remember exactly what it is, but there's a password and before the upgrade it used to work, the password was stored in kdewallet too
[02:37] <EbolaVirus> !ops
[02:38] <Izinucs> Taggnostr: try disabling all router encryption/protection and make sure the ssid broadcast is turned on.. then connect again.. I'll be it will work.. once connected reset a password in the router and do the same in kubuntu
[02:38] <EbolaVirus> !ops
[02:40] <Izinucs> EbolaVirus: why you calling for ops?
[02:40] <EbolaVirus> to get banned duh
[02:40] <EbolaVirus> !ops
[02:41] <EbolaVirus> ban me riddell
[02:41] <Riddell> twonkle
[02:41] <Izinucs> thnx
[02:41] <Dragnslcr> Mmmkay
[02:42] <Lord_Drachenblut> so why would someone try to get banned?
[02:43] <Jevon> I know people like that, just on a more social server
[02:43] <Macrophage> !ops
[02:44] <JontheEchidna> a bit late there Macrophage? ;-)
[02:44] <Macrophage> what?
[02:44] <Jevon> so you changed your nick and came back?
[02:44] <Lord_Drachenblut> that's the second dumbest thing I have seen all day
[02:44] <Macrophage> I am part of the immune system
[02:45] <JontheEchidna> oh, hmm. same guy. Should have seen the connection
[02:45] <Macrophage> I am looking for a penguin named tux anyone seen him?
[02:45] <Jevon> Drachenblut, come on over to the SWC IRC server. That would be almost normal behavior
[02:45] <Macrophage> I have antibodys ready to throw at the fucking retarted mascot
[02:46] <Jevon> 10, 9, 8...
[02:46] <Riddell> meh, no freenode staff on
[02:47] <Fusion64> hello,I Finished My kubuntu Download 5 minutes ago,How can i ensure that my iso is complete?
[02:47] <Jordan_U> !md5 | Fusion64
[02:48] <Fusion64> can i repair It if it has some problems ?
[02:53] <Fusion64> Thanks,I've compared the checksums and there was no problem.
[02:54] <postfuturist> If I open Dolphin and click on "Volume (ntfs)" my Windows partition gets mounted at /media/disk, is there a way to get it to mount automatically on boot?
[02:58] <Fusion64> Anybody tried kubuntu 9.10 64 bit with Wubi?
[03:04] <Izinucs> Fusion64: you gotta be running Win 7 or another 64 bit system
[03:07] <Fusion64> No. i'm Running Vista 32 bit . i was reading the wubi F.A.Q and i didnt see anything about the thing that you told me.
[03:08] <veritos> Why is kdelibs5 called that when it's really version 4?
[03:08] <Fusion64> If you are unsure of this (like me) i suggest you search about it on google.
[03:10] <Fusion64> veritos:Search about it
[03:10] <veritos> Fusion64, looking
[03:10] <veritos> google sucks of late, though
[03:11] <veritos> since they started their 'ignore my search operators' stuff
[03:16] <alteroo> veritos: It's always one version ahead
[03:16] <alteroo> the kdelibs in KDE3 was kdelibcs4c2
[03:16] <veritos> alteroo, yeah, i noticed, i'm just trying to figure out why.
[03:16] <veritos> do we keep it that way to make upgrading happy?
[03:17] <veritos> ('we' includes debian too, apparently)
[03:20] <Huntz23> updateing fun
[03:20] <Huntz23> oi, and typo
[03:23] <Huntz23> Question, I am upgrading and kde background comes up with script allterations in the file
[03:24] <Xcell> just loaded all and the kitchen sink.. everything works nicely  but... audacious will not play shoutcast.. is there a lib missing?
[03:25]  * MaartenLx tries apt-get install kitchen-sink
[03:25] <Xcell> lol
[03:26] <Xcell> it has purified drinking water
[03:27] <webbb82> ok i need a little help  i got kde and gnome installed but i think i missed a file when i installed kde  when i try to login it will login and everything works but the screen is black   besides the apps running i can see,  and if i do plasma-desktop the desktop will apear then crash and go back to black
[03:27] <Huntz23> here is the passte bin that accompanies my question   http://pastebin.com/d4de079fb
[03:28] <webbb82> i had kubuntu netbook installed but i took it off and installed the niormal kubuntu and then this  happened
[03:28] <Xcell> if someone doesnt help im calling my mom.
[03:28] <Huntz23> is there an apt-get for hot tub?
[03:28] <JontheEchidna> webbb82: try uninstalling kubuntu-netbook-default-settings
[03:29] <webbb82> JontheEchidna, its already uninstalled just checked
[03:29] <JontheEchidna> hmm
[03:29] <webbb82> i think plasma keeps crashin
[03:30] <webbb82> cause i can hit alt f2 and the runner will open and kopete will show  but the desktop isnt there
[03:31] <SJr> Do I have another option for Wireless management besides Network manager it seems to be very broken in Karmic, I can't connect to anything.
[03:32] <alteroo> webbb82: open konsole and run plasma-desktop
[03:32] <alteroo>  you should get the reason it crashed
[03:32] <webbb82> i did that in alt f2 and the desktop poped up and then went away rite after
[03:33] <carpii_> 3:30 am with one cigarette left
[03:33] <webbb82> im in gnome rite now
[03:33] <carpii_> how will i survive the night :(((((
[03:33] <alteroo> webbb82: I know that's why I said run it in konsole
[03:33] <alteroo>  ok fine run it in gnome-terminal
[03:33] <alteroo> carpii_: By sleeping
[03:33]  * carpii_ sobs
[03:33] <webbb82> ok
[03:33] <carpii_> i think youre right
[03:34] <Huntz23> question I got a message during upgrade about my background, here is the paste bin http://pastebin.com/d4de079fb
[03:34] <webbb82> ok
[03:35] <webbb82> invalid path?
[03:35] <webbb82> QGraphicsGridLayout::itemAt: invalid index 1
[03:36] <webbb82> is there a way to find out what depends im missing
[03:39] <webbb82> alteroo, any ideas?
[03:39] <Xiella> How do I open .xlsx files in Open Office 3/Karmic?  Double clicking doesn't work, neither does File>open in Calc...
[03:40] <webbb82> apt-get -f install  installed these The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
[03:40] <webbb82>   libgda-4.0-common python-gdl python-gtkspell python-gtkmozembed libgda-4.0-4
[03:40] <webbb82>   python-eggtrayicon python2.5-minimal libdb4.6 python-gksu2 libgdl-1-3
[03:40] <webbb82>   libgdl-1-common
[03:40] <billet75> has anyone configured a geforce 210 carsd
[03:42] <Huntz23> xcel files are database files
[03:42] <Huntz23> so try opening with database
[03:42] <buckaroo> hello
[03:43] <buckaroo> somebody can help me
[03:43] <buckaroo> i need to probe my apache server
[03:43] <buckaroo> eeeeeyyyyy
[03:43] <Xiella> Thanks Huntz23 I'll try that.
[03:43] <Huntz23> np, hope it helps
[03:44] <buckaroo> somebody can help?
[03:44] <buckaroo> i´m from Argentina
[03:44] <Xiella> Huntz23 - I know nothing about databases but it asks to select an existing database from a list of about 8 options - there's no option to open just an ordinary file.
[03:45] <buckaroo> i install apache server
[03:45] <Huntz23> did you right click on the file you are trying to open?
[03:46] <Huntz23> in the menu you should see "open with"
[03:46] <Huntz23> click open with and look for open office.org database
[03:47] <mm_202> what's the new knotes replacement called?
[03:48] <buckaroo> mm_202 can you helpme?
[03:48] <mm_202> buckaroo: with?  I didnt see your question.
[03:48] <buckaroo> is only a litle thing
[03:49] <Xiella> Huntz23 - Trying that now, thanks
[03:49] <buckaroo> i need test my apache server
[03:49] <Huntz23> k
[03:49] <mm_202> buckaroo: okay
[03:49] <Xiella> Huntz23 - Doesn't work.  No errors, just nothing happens
[03:50] <buckaroo> if you can test my ip: http://190.183.17.151:1300/
[03:50] <mm_202> buckaroo: Apache/2.2.8 (Ubuntu) Server at 190.183.17.151 Port 1300
[03:50] <Huntz23> no bouncing cursor, or hourglass jsut nothing?
[03:50] <mm_202> yep, it comes up with a listing with 3 files.
[03:51] <Xiella> Huntz23 Nope, neither of those, just nothing.
[03:51] <buckaroo> it works?
[03:51] <mm_202> buckaroo: yes
[03:51] <buckaroo> and this link? http://buckaroo.noip.es:1300/
[03:51] <mm_202> if I open index2.html I get the usual 'It works!'
[03:52] <mm_202> buckaroo: that works as well.
[03:52] <buckaroo> ok! thank´s my friend,,,
[03:52] <mm_202> No problem.
[03:52] <webbb82> is there any temp file that stored all the terminal command and stuff go
[03:52] <webbb82> some temp
[03:52] <buckaroo> i use ubuntu in Argentina
[03:53] <buckaroo> thanks mm_202
[03:55] <Huntz23> ha, mm_202, knotes = Desktop sticky notes
[03:56] <Huntz23> Xiella, lookin
[03:56] <mm_202> Huntz23: heh, I was hoping there was a better replacement.  The desktop notes are pretty, but not very useful.
[03:56] <Xiella> Thanks :)
[03:56] <Huntz23> lol, hey can you peak at somethin for me, I got a message upgrading, http://pastebin.com/d4de079fb what you think?
[03:58] <webbb82> gthis is what i get  http://pastebin.com/m3e014340
[04:01] <Huntz23> xiella it looks like some hoop jumping as it xlsx is a microsoft pain in the arse
[04:02] <Huntz23> I did come across a converter possibly
[04:02] <Xiella> Huntz23: oh dear heh
[04:02] <Xiella> Huntz23: Yeah?
[04:02] <LordHawke13> Good evening Ubuntu users of the world!!
[04:02] <Huntz23> http://www.oooforum.org/forum/viewtopic.phtml?p=273487
[04:03] <Huntz23> well apparently office 2007 isnt playin nice with the open office team
[04:03] <Xiella> Ah right
[04:03] <Xiella> Huntz23: hah, yeah.  I think I came across that too but I'm scared of apt-get in konsole for something that isn't in Kpackagekit
[04:04] <Huntz23> what ubuntu are you on?
[04:04] <Xiella> Karmic (kde 4)
[04:05] <at133> Hi, I just installed kubuntu 9.04. I would like to change my shortcut keys to mirror those of windows. Back when KDE had kcontrol there was a setting for this, but I can't find it in the new system settings. Is there still a way to do this?
[04:05] <LordHawke13> #ubuntu
[04:05] <LordHawke13> Aww shit. . .
[04:08] <Huntz23> Xiella it may be the only way
[04:09] <at133> For clarification, I know that I can change the shortcut keys one by one, but there used to be a way to automatically change them.
[04:10] <Xiella> Huntz23: I see... Weird though, in the oo.o help files it says it can open .xlsx/docx formats (and convert to xls/doc)
[04:10] <Huntz23> funny that its not part of the new open office suite
[04:10] <Xiella> Huntz23: Yeah I thought it was odd too
[04:12] <Xiella> Huntz23: hmm, can't find what I mentioned earlier about docx being supported in the help file, maybe I read it somewhere else.
[04:12] <Huntz23> open office 3?
[04:13] <Xiella> Yes, Openoffice 3.1.1
[04:13] <Xiella> Ah, I found the spot in the help file I was looking for.  Microsoft Office > opening Microsoft documents.
[04:14] <Xiella> Says it opens .docx, .xlsx and .pptx in their respective openoffice programs.
[04:15] <Xiella> Anyway thanks for trying, let me know if you come up with anything.
[04:15] <Xiella> Afk a bit.
[04:15] <Huntz23> k
[04:17] <Huntz23> holy homer simpson moment 'doh!'
[04:17] <webbb82> when i login to kde plasma desktop will crash  http://pastebin.com/m3e014340  this is the error when i do plasma-desktop in the terminal    but also in synaptic   plasma-desktop isnt there at all
[04:18] <Huntz23> Xiella: try right click, open with, Open office spreadsheet
[04:18] <Huntz23> brb
[04:20] <Shaan7_> Installed Kubuntu Karmic yesterday. My Amarok 2.2.0 has the Equalizer option disabled. Using the Xine backend. What might be wrong?
[04:23] <Huntz23> back
[04:26] <Huntz23> http://pastebin.com/d4de079fb anyone ahve an opinion on this
[04:27] <webbb82>  when i login to kde plasma desktop will crash  http://pastebin.com/m3e014340  this is the error when i do plasma-desktop in the terminal    but also in synaptic   plasma-desktop isnt there at all
[04:27] <kalp> my root partition of 10gb had 8 gb free space but as i have gone on upgrading, from 8.1 to 9.04 and now 9.1 i have only 2.5gb free. what can be taking up space and how to i free it?
[04:29] <Taggnostr> kalp, you can delete the old kernel images
[04:29] <kalp> how?
[04:29] <kalp> Taggnostr: how?
[04:30] <Taggnostr> I don't remember exactly, iirc you have to use dpkg and grep to see how many images do you have and then some other command to delete them
[04:31] <Taggnostr> kalp: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2007-March/110288.html
[04:31] <Taggnostr> kalp, also https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2007-March/110299.html
[04:32] <webbb82> why cant i find plasma-desktop in synaptic
[04:33] <Huntz23> Xiella: you there
[04:33] <zoe> Hi, I just re-installed with kubuntu 9.10, and now half of my sound breaks when I view a flash video. Can anyone point me in the right direction?
[04:33] <Xiella> Huntz23: On my mac now but I'm here too
[04:33] <Xiella> Huntz23: I tried rightclicking > Spreadsheet but that didn't work either, same lack of response
[04:33] <Huntz23> argh
[04:34] <Xiella> Huntz23: :(
[04:34] <Huntz23> damn that microsoft office
[04:34]  * Xiella agrees completely with Huntz23
[04:35] <Huntz23> did you download that file
[04:36] <Huntz23> if so can I get the link so I can see it?
[04:36] <Xiella> odf-converter-integrator?
[04:36] <Huntz23> no your .xlsx file
[04:37] <Xiella> Oh, hmm, it was in my gmail.  Not sure how to upload.
[04:37] <webbb82> does  anyone know why when i log into kde i can still hear sounds but the desktop is black   i think plasma-desktop keeps crashin cause when i did plasma-desktop in krunner  the desktop will show up then crash again
[04:37] <Xiella> I can email it somewhere if that's easier?
[04:37] <Huntz23> right click on my name in the the list there should be a send file
[04:38] <Xiella> Ohh okay yep let me do that now.
[04:38] <Huntz23> rgr
[04:39] <Xiella> Hmm, weird, can't do it.  I'm using Quassel, doesn't have the option to send stuff
[04:39] <Huntz23> ok, mhuntington25@hotmail.com
[04:39] <Xiella> Ok gonna quickly forward it to you.  Someone's at my door - will afk a while
[04:39] <Huntz23> k
[04:42] <zoe> Hi, I just re-installed with kubuntu 9.10, and now half of my sound breaks when I view a flash video. Can anyone point me in the right direction?
[04:43] <trampel> anyone else notice that there's no option for System->Administration with kubuntu 9.10? ...and/or how can we get it back?
[04:44] <kalp> Taggnostr: i am freeing 350 mb with 3 kernel removals
[04:44] <kalp> Taggnostr: wat are restricted modules and headers, can i remove them
[04:45] <Guest59138> someone speak spanish?
[04:45] <Taggnostr> I don't know, but you could try something like apt-get autoremove to remove unused packages
[04:45] <Taggnostr> !es
[04:47] <Huntz23> Xiella: I opened it, right clicked on it, went to open with, clicked on spreadsheet, and it opened in calc
[04:47] <Xiella> Huntz23: That's good for you and crappy for me
[04:47] <Xiella> Huntz23: Wonder why mine won't work...
[04:47] <Huntz23> and I am runnin office 2.3
[04:47] <Xiella> Huntz23: Wow
[04:47] <Huntz23> so it should work ofr you
[04:48] <Huntz23> yea I am in the process of upgrading
[04:48] <Huntz23> oooo, I got an idea
[04:48] <Xiella> Huntz23: haha, cool
[04:49] <Xiella> Huntz23: Yeah?
[04:53] <zoe> Hi, I just re-installed with kubuntu 9.10, and now half of my sound breaks when I view a flash video. How can I fix this?
[04:55] <webbb82> ok i think i figured out why when i login i only see a black screen but my dock is still visable with all black around it      plasma desktop keeps crashin
[04:57] <eatThisAndDie> guys, I need to recover my data from a hard disk, where my home is encrypted
[04:57] <eatThisAndDie> I'm looking at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory for a guide on that
[04:58] <eatThisAndDie> and i remember the password that I set to encrypt the home, but it doesn't seem to work,
[04:58] <eatThisAndDie> anyone can tell me whats the default encryption method used? is it AES 16 bit?
[05:01] <zoe_> is there anyone here who is familiar with sound issues?
[05:05] <webbb82> c an anyone help i cant get plasma desktop to work  i get a black screen with working apps
[05:06] <webbb82> do i need kdebase?
[05:08] <eatThisAndDie> webb82: has it always been like that? have u tried restarting plasma?
[05:08] <eatThisAndDie> webbb82 ^^
[05:10] <webbb82> ya i just installed kde in karmic koala and the first login everythin is black but i can still do alt f2 and see the krunner window    and if i do plasma-desktop in krunner the destop will show up for a split second then crash again
[05:11] <eatThisAndDie> webbb82 open up a terminal, type `killall plasma` and then `plasma`
[05:12] <webbb82> im im gnome rite now
[05:12] <eatThisAndDie> webbb82, then you'll have to login to KED
[05:12] <eatThisAndDie> KDE
[05:12] <webbb82> ok brb
[05:13] <nomopofomo> okay so i just downloaded mysql-client... how do i run it?
[05:16] <webbb82> ok im in kde now and the screen still black but i can see open windows that how im talkin now
[05:16] <webbb82> brian@netbook:~$ plasma
[05:16] <webbb82> plasma: command not found
[05:17] <webbb82> i think its a d-bus error
[05:18] <vitamin-carrot> howdy folkes
[05:18] <vitamin-carrot> is there a known issue with kpackagekit?
[05:19] <C00LARR0w> is there a way to do encryption of the hd during an install of ubuntu?
[05:24] <eatThisAndDie> nomopofomo: type mysql
[05:25] <eatThisAndDie> webbb82 try /usr/bin/plasma
[05:25] <eatThisAndDie> and make sure you have the 'kubuntu-desktop' package installed
[05:25] <eatThisAndDie> i asume you intalled ubuntu, and want to try out KDE?
[05:29] <vitamin-carrot> my Kpackagekit in Kubuntu 9.10 isnt displaying anything i search for
[05:29] <Huntz23> holy crap
[05:29] <Huntz23> xiella?
[05:30] <vitamin-carrot> is it a known issue?
[05:30] <Xiella> Huntz23? My fiance is using the computer at the moment - did you think of something though?
[05:30] <Huntz23> well before I had a mini meltdown yeah
[05:30] <Xiella> Eep, heh
[05:31] <Huntz23> I converted its to .ods for you
[05:31] <Xiella> Oohh! thank you :)
[05:31] <Huntz23> did you et a DCC message?
[05:31] <rohan> is there any decent video player for kubuntu/kde 4.3.2 that supports displaying subtitles *below* the video, like kaffeine 0.8.x did? kaffeine 1.0pre and dragon player don't support subtitles, smplayer doesn't display them below the video.
[05:31] <rohan> also, smplayer subs aren't as beautiful as kaffeine. and using kaffeine-kde3 on kde4 stutters while displaying subs
[05:31] <Huntz23> er, et=get
[05:31] <rohan> ref - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=910628
[05:32] <Xiella> Huntz23: a DCC message? was that to me?
[05:32] <Huntz23> yes
[05:32] <Xiella> Huntz23: nope, no message of any sort
[05:32] <Xiella> Huntz23 - gotta go, thanks for everything anyway
[05:32] <Huntz23> hmmm, I will email it
[05:33] <Xiella> Huntz23: Thanks very much :)
[05:33] <Huntz23> np
[05:33] <Xiella> Huntz23: logging now, see you round.  and thanks again!
[05:33] <Huntz23> yep
[05:33] <Huntz23> laterz
[05:35] <vitamin-carrot> Wait
[05:35] <vitamin-carrot> Xiella
[05:35] <vitamin-carrot> :(
[05:35] <vitamin-carrot> awww a fellow kiwi
[05:36] <vitamin-carrot> so would anyone know why my KPackageKit isnt displaying anything? ... I have checked the software sources and everything
[05:36] <FireCrotch> vitamin-carrot: Try running sudo kpackagekit from a terminal and see if you get any useful output
[05:37] <vitamin-carrot> dnake
[05:38] <vitamin-carrot> hrm
[05:38] <vitamin-carrot> looks like its not calling from wallet nor is it asking for my pw
[05:39] <vitamin-carrot> and a whole bunch of erros for uid
[05:40] <vitamin-carrot> and its just halted
[05:40] <vitamin-carrot> lol
[05:40] <rodensky> hello ppl - was here yesterday but lost something here - what's the command for upgrading 9.04 -> 9.10 instead of doing so through upgrade mamanger?
[05:42] <zoe_> rodensky: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:43] <rodensky> yersterday someone nicknamed imad_ gave me other command, is that the command for sure?
[05:43] <rodensky> (i'm kind of newbie to linux...)
[05:44] <eatThisAndDie> rodensky: is it sudo aptitude dist-upgrade?
[05:44] <rodensky> yes
[05:44] <rodensky> think so
[05:44] <eatThisAndDie> there's bound to be one for apt-get too.
[05:44] <eatThisAndDie> but you need to change yout /etc/apt/souces.list to karmic from jaunty
[05:44] <FireCrotch> aptitude dist-upgrade will NOT upgrade you from jaunty to karmic
[05:45] <FireCrotch> Changing your sources.list like that is not recommended
[05:45] <FireCrotch> At least, it hasn't been for a long time now
[05:45] <rodensky> the source list is already updated, the upgrade is half way through in the upgrade manager but from some unknown reason it's been going on like this from the 29th
[05:46] <FireCrotch> rodensky: try sudo do-release-upgrade
[05:46] <zoe_> man page says dist-upgrade
[05:46] <FireCrotch> rodensky: So your update is basically completely stalled?
[05:46] <Huntz23> you need ot finish the upgrade then
[05:46] <Huntz23> I just had mine stall out today
[05:47] <Huntz23> pc got shut down during upgrade
[05:47] <rodensky> Huntz23: it's going on from the 29th and it had several  disconnetions
[05:48] <rodensky> i never even got to the upgrade itself because the package download is sooo slow and full of problems...
[05:48] <Huntz23> so it was still downlaoding?
[05:48] <zoe_> can anyone help me with a pulseaudio problem?
[05:48] <Huntz23> hhmmmm
[05:48] <FireCrotch> rodensky: Well, you might be in for a rough ride, but you should be able to make it through by doing sudo apt-get dist-upgrade then
[05:49] <FireCrotch> I once managed to finish an install that crashed on me due to a failed CD drive this way
[05:49] <rodensky> Reading package lists... Done // Building dependency tree // Reading state information... Done // Calculating upgrade... Done // 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[05:49] <rodensky> any other idea?
[05:50] <Huntz23> i had all the packages downloaded, and tried sudo aptitude upgrade, but it gave me and error and told me to restart dpkg
[05:50] <eatThisAndDie> di you do a `apt-get update` first?
[05:50] <rodensky> nope
[05:50] <eatThisAndDie> just to be safe, try that first.
[05:51] <rodensky> updating now
[05:51] <rodensky> done
[05:51] <Huntz23> I see, yea dpkg configure wont work without actually having hte packages will it...hehe
[05:51] <eatThisAndDie> Huntz23 is `upgade` really what you want? not 'dist-upgrade`
[05:52] <Huntz23> oh, mine is a special kind of mess..lol
[05:52] <eatThisAndDie> hah. ok.
[05:52] <rodensky> the update is done, tried dist-upgrade and yet same problem
[05:52] <Huntz23> I ahve been upgrading from edgy
[05:52] <Huntz23> I am up to gutsy
[05:52] <rodensky> "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded."
[05:54] <Huntz23> Release:        7.10 Codename:       gutsy
[05:54] <rodensky> could be that the problem is that i already started the upgrade with the upgrade mamanger?
[05:55] <eatThisAndDie> rodensky: is the upgrade manager still running?
[05:55] <Huntz23> I am what 3 distros behind yet?
[05:55] <rodensky> no
[05:55] <FireCrotch> rodensky: That may be a part of the problem, yes
[05:55] <FireCrotch> rodensky: are you sure that /etc/apt/sources.list has karmic repos in it?
[05:55] <rodensky> i stoped the upgrade via the manager and closed it before i opened the termianl
[05:55] <rodensky> *terminal
[05:56] <rodensky> let me check it again, last time it had karmic repos
[05:56] <rodensky> now it doesn't :O
[05:57] <rodensky> i have ghosts in my pc!!
[05:57] <rodensky> :)
[05:57] <rodensky> the thing is, now i have even less repos then what i had before i tried to upgrade... :(
[05:58] <FireCrotch> rodensky: do you have a backup of your sources.list?
[05:58] <rodensky> nope.. :\
[05:59] <FireCrotch> rodensky: well, did you have any third-party repos?
[05:59] <rodensky> i liked windows because everything was much simpler... if it doesn't work, no way in hell it will have any problems...
[05:59] <rodensky> what do you men by third party?
[06:00] <rodensky> i had multiverse and such, and now i have only "partner"
[06:00] <FireCrotch> rodensky: unoffical repositories, such as those for wine or any of the PPAs
[06:01] <rodensky> no
[06:01] <FireCrotch> rodensky: Here is a copy of my sources.list, you'll want to remove the last repository though: http://pastebin.com/f4195041f
[06:02] <FireCrotch> rodensky: or rather, everything listed after ## TOR repos
[06:03] <rodensky> where do i find this list ?
[06:03] <Huntz23> argh, brain cooked, what the command for kernel version?
[06:03] <zoe> uname -r
[06:03] <zoe> or is it uname -a?
[06:03] <zoe> one ore the other
[06:04] <Huntz23> uname -a works
[06:04] <Huntz23> thanks
[06:04] <zoe> also, my sound cuts out when flashplayer is active, any ideas?
[06:06] <rodensky> ok found it
[06:07] <rodensky> FireCrotch: i changed the source list to yours (exc. TOR)
[06:08] <FireCrotch> rodensky: Do sudo apt-get update  then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade then :)
[06:08] <rodensky> ahhh
[06:08] <rodensky> it's aliveeee
[06:08] <rodensky> alive!!
[06:09] <rodensky> waiting for the upgrade to end =|
[06:09] <Huntz23> anyone familiar with EOL upgrades?
[06:20] <zoe> Hi, I lose sound when flash player is active, can anyone help me with this?
[06:21] <rodensky> it happed to me also... in my case i solved it by changing the device in the volume control
[06:23] <rodensky> i tried every device listed untill i got the right one working without losing sound each time i used vlc player or skype...
[06:24] <kexman> hello
[06:24] <kexman> just came from ##windows :)
[06:24] <kexman> got tired of windows :)
[06:24] <kexman> switching over to kubuntu
[06:25] <rodensky> FireCrotch: for now it seems the dist-upgrade is working fine, downloading whatever it is that i need. thank you very much :)
[06:26] <FireCrotch> rodensky: no problem :) Feel free to highlight me later if you have any further problems
[06:27] <hagabaka> weird, second boot after upgrading to karmic, I can't enable desktop effects any more. glxinfo displays Direct Rendering: Yes
[06:30] <rodensky> oh it downloads hebrew language pack... yey.... =)
[07:06] <dustin2000> Hi
[07:22] <kaddi> hi, I posted a bug report about a regression in the kernel  regarding brightness 4 month ago. That report has not been touched since... Is it going to be sorted at some point or do untreated bug reports go stale when noone assigns them? Should I post a new report?
[07:25] <FireCrotch> kaddi: Link to the bug report?
[07:25] <kaddi> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/413303
[07:28] <pilat-online> hi all, need help (I'm writting from a LiveCD and the browser don't fire up for some reason [Bus error (core dumped)], so can't use google)
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[07:30] <pilat-online> Had just installed Kubuntu 9.10 as new install, using "Free space on first HDD" option. So,I expected to have dual-boot with already uinstalled Win XP
[07:30] <rodensky> ...
[07:30] <alvin> The Asylum
[07:30] <pilat-online> it installed, but after reboot, I can only see windows loading, without any grub prompts..
[07:31] <pilat-online> I already installed grub manually, before, but not Grub 2... (
[07:31] <FireCrotch> kaddi: Can you tell me what version of gnome-power-manager you have installed?
[07:31] <FireCrotch> errr
[07:31] <FireCrotch> nevermind
[07:31] <kaddi> I was going to check, but my guess would have been none ;)
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[07:33] <vyom> hi
[07:33] <kaddi> hi :)
[07:33] <vitamin-carrot> hello
[07:34] <TheKro> I'm trying to upgrade to Karmic.  Ran "sudo do-release-upgrade": it output "Checking for a new ubuntu release", and seems to have hung.  Suggestions?
[07:34] <kaddi> FireCrotch: I haven't installed it (obviously) but I also haven't installed guidance-power-manager, which I believe is the kde equivalent to gnome-power-manager
[07:35] <FireCrotch> kaddi: try installing guidance-power-manager
[07:36] <TheKro> it got further a bit earlier, but when it asked aboutoverwriting sources.list, I chose "No" to make a back up. Now it's not getting anywhere.
[07:38] <kaddi> FireCrotch: that didn't change anyting.
[07:39] <FireCrotch> kaddi: Do you still have the  2.6.28-14-generic kernel available to use?
[07:40] <kaddi> no, it got uninstalled with one of the karmic upgrades, sorry
[07:40] <kaddi> automatically, I wouldn't have unselected it :p
[07:40] <rodensky> will upgrading erase pidgin and skype and other programs installed or will it "update" just the system itself? (i.e. kernel/shell)
[07:41] <FireCrotch> kaddi: It would be helpful if you could install that kernel and see if it still works in that kernel
[07:41] <kaddi> rodensky: it will leave the installed programs in place (with the possile exception of wicd)
[07:41] <FireCrotch> rodensky: it will update everything, including pidgin and other programs
[07:42] <rodensky> will it install new programs?
[07:44] <kaddi> FireCrotch: I can try that, should I get the kernel packages from packages.ubuntu.com? and which ones do I need? just linux-image-2.6.28-11-generic ?
[07:45] <FireCrotch> kaddi: it's not as simple as that, unfortunately.  kernel modules may need to be changed, etc
[07:46] <FireCrotch> kaddi: I am by no means a kernel expert, unfortunately :(
[07:46] <rodensky> will it install new programs?
[07:47] <FireCrotch> rodensky: I'm not sure that there are any new programs in Karmic by default
[07:47] <kaddi> rodensky: it might install a program or two, especially if you have uninstalled programs that came installed in jaunty. But this is the exception
[07:49] <FireCrotch> kaddi: if you can confirm that the bug is actually kernel problem, the bug can be assigned to the kernel team
[07:49] <kaddi> FireCrotch: I think I'm gonna start by booting without this KMS since this seems to be where the problem starts for many others as well.
[07:49] <rodensky> FireCrotch: i read that there are, for example a msngr that supposed to replace pidgin (empathy or something like that)
[07:49] <FireCrotch> rodensky: empathy is not a part of Kubuntu
[07:49] <Guest14008> hi
[07:49] <kaddi> rodensky: even if there are programs installed you can always just uninstall them afterwards
[07:50] <FireCrotch> rodensky: pidgin will be upgraded, in your case
[07:50] <rodensky> FireCrotch: i'm talking about ubuntu, not kubuntu
[07:50] <rodensky> am i upgrading right now to kubuntu?? :S
[07:51] <FireCrotch> rodensky: no.... but you're asking for help with ubuntu in #kubuntu :-P
[07:52] <rodensky> 'cause in #ubuntu it's not as much fun :P
[07:52] <rodensky> it's not as helpful as it is here...
[07:54] <FireCrotch> rodensky: pidgin will not be removed, but I think empathy will be installed during the upgrade
[07:54] <kaddi> kms didnt change anything
[07:55] <rodensky> removing newly installed apps is not a problem, i just hope nothing already installed will get removed...
[07:55] <FireCrotch> rodensky: Nah, that won't happen
[07:55] <kaddi> usually when something is unstalled settings are saved, so when you reinstall it, you can take up right were you left.
[07:55] <TheKro> ok, so if no-one here can help me, where do I go next?
[07:56] <kaddi> FireCrotch: wicd would be an example of a program that gets uninstalled with every upgrade for kubuntu :p
[07:56] <rodensky> what's wicd? :x
[07:56] <kaddi> a networkmanager, if you haven't knowingly installed it, it's not present on your system
[07:56] <FireCrotch> TheKro: You're trying to upgrade to Karmic, correct?
[07:57] <TheKro> FireCrotch: yes
[07:57] <kaddi> it gets removed because it is incompatible with a program that is installed by default in kde.
[07:57] <ab000dy> Hi
[07:57] <kaddi> hi
[07:58] <zazzettt> holas
[07:58] <ab000dy> may you help me !
[07:58] <zazzettt> if i can sure
[07:58] <zazzettt> tell me
[07:58] <rodensky> hmm... i have a network manager that i use with ubuntu... it was preinstalled, not my choise, will it be removed?
[07:58] <kaddi> no
[07:58] <ab000dy> i want help using openmpi
[07:58] <zazzettt> i think no
[07:59] <ab000dy> Hi
[07:59] <ab000dy> HI every one
[07:59] <FireCrotch> TheKro: hmm, I'm not sure what the problem could be exactly
[08:00] <FireCrotch> rodensky: No
[08:00] <rodensky> i don't care if it will be replaced with some other network manager, all i care that my setting will be kept... i have a modem from hell :\
[08:01] <FireCrotch> rodensky: You should be just fine...
[08:01] <TheKro> thx for looking, FireCrotch .  Are these IRC channels the last resort before posting a bug report?
[08:01] <rodensky> FireCrotch: i see you writing to me 'no' too many times... are you my mother? :P
[08:02] <rodensky> :o now i know you're my mother!
[08:03] <urlauber> hi! I accidently removed a sounddevice in the KDE systemsettings (digital spdif output). How can I bring it back?
[08:05] <TheKro> FireCrotch: if I press ^C, I get a stacktrace - would that help you?
[08:06] <FireCrotch> TheKro: Well, it can't hurt for me to look at it :)
[08:07] <TheKro> tricky - i'm on the console - no cut and paste, or mouse
[08:08] <FireCrotch> !pastebinit
[08:08] <TheKro> can I do that with stacktraces, ubottu ?
[08:09] <FireCrotch> TheKro: I have no idea.... you should be able to redirect the errors to a file or something?
[08:09] <TheKro> "Couldn't find any package ... matched pastebinit"
[08:09] <FireCrotch> !info pastebinit
[08:10] <FireCrotch> !info pastebinit jaunty
[08:11] <TheKro> only thingtab completion in apt-get install from "pas" gives me is passwd
[08:11] <FireCrotch> apt-get update ?
[08:13] <TheKro> odd - i ran that just before do-release-upgrade (to do last upates).  but now it's shown up.  But my sources.list file now seems full of intrepid repos
[08:13] <TheKro> instead of jaunty
[08:14] <FireCrotch> TheKro: And you're sure you're on Jaunty?  uname -a ?
[08:15] <FireCrotch> er, I mean, lsb_release -a
[08:15] <TheKro> Jaunty : 9.04
[08:16] <FireCrotch> TheKro: Change your sources.list to Jaunty then, do apt-get update, and try to run do-release-upgrade again
[08:16] <TheKro> yeah - i'm trying that now (thx)
[08:17] <TheKro> 5366 new? should i do the release upgrade, or upgrade these packages first?
[08:17] <FireCrotch> Just do the upgrade
[08:17] <FireCrotch> release upgrade, that is
[08:17] <TheKro> working, it seems
[08:18] <TheKro> thx for your help, FireCrotch
[08:19] <TheKro> heh - not enough disk space... that I should be ableto solve
[08:19] <FireCrotch> TheKro: Glad I could help :)
[08:32]  * phelerox thanks all contributors to kubuntu for a flawless upgrade to 9.10 :)
[08:37] <rodensky> "Need to get 392MB/782MB of archives." means i have only 392MB to download right?
[08:39]  * Rodensky Is asking: "Need to get 392MB/782MB of archives." means i have only 392MB to download right?
[08:40]  * vitamin-carrot wonders why he cant pick his nose while standing on his head
[08:41] <Rodensky> wtf? how can't you?
[08:41] <Rodensky> :P
[08:42] <vitamin-carrot> wont i need both hands to keep my balance?
[08:42] <fl4shb4ck> good morning guys :)
[08:42] <jarl_> Hi there.
[08:42] <Rodensky> if you're standing on your head, you pick your nose. the problem begins when you're stading on your hands and can't reach with you legs
[08:42] <vitamin-carrot> hi flash
[08:42] <Rodensky> *, you can pick your nose
[08:43] <fl4shb4ck> I still need help with my damned wlan and now half of my icons are questionmarks o_O
[08:43] <Rodensky> .
[08:43] <jarl_> Can anyone tell me what's the procedure to request new software in Ubuntu, there is probably a web-page describing such request.
[08:43] <Rodensky> *with your
[08:44] <Rodensky> jarl_: just wait for ubuntu 10.04. they usually read minds... :P
[08:45] <fl4shb4ck> does anyone know how to get these questionmark-icons back to normal? :P
[08:54] <Xiella> uhh... What does ctrl+alt+F12 do?  I pressed it by mistake and just wondering if it did any permanent damage to my system.
[08:55] <TheKro> xiella - it just takes you to a console
[08:55] <TheKro> you should be ableto get back to your GUI with ctrl-alt-f7
[08:55] <Xiella> Oh! that's alright then heh.  Thank you :)
[08:55] <Xiella> Sweet.  Must remember that one.
[08:56] <TheKro> Xiella: no prob
[09:00] <andreas_> hi
[09:00] <fl4shb4ck> thekro: can you help me?
[09:00] <fl4shb4ck> hi andreas
[09:01] <TheKro> fl4shb4ck: what's the problem?
[09:02] <fl4shb4ck> a) my networkmanager shows my wlan router, but I can't connect | b) my icons have mostly changed to questionmarks
[09:02] <ilter> Hello. I've a problem after upgrading 9.10 version. Could you help me anyone?
[09:03] <TheKro> fl4shb4ck: sorry - i also have wlan problems, and I'm still upgrading to karmic
[09:03] <TheKro> ilter: just ask the question - whoever can help you will try to...
[09:03] <fl4shb4ck> so how can I fix that? :-/
[09:04] <fl4shb4ck> this damned 15 meter long yellow cable sucks :D
[09:04] <TheKro> fl4shb4ck: did your wlan stop working after an upgrade?
[09:04] <fl4shb4ck> yes
[09:05] <fl4shb4ck> and my icons transformed to questionmarks ..
[09:05] <fl4shb4ck> :P
[09:05] <TheKro> have you checked all your wireless settings?
[09:05] <fl4shb4ck> yes
[09:05] <fl4shb4ck> it can see the wlan-router
[09:05] <fl4shb4ck> but I can't connect
[09:06] <fl4shb4ck> I've tried with 2 routers, the right password and WEP/WPA2
[09:06] <fl4shb4ck> nothing works
[09:06] <ilter> Thank you TheKro.
[09:07] <TheKro> fl4shb4ck: do you have access to a router with no encryption?  or can you put your router's encryiption off temporarily?
[09:07] <fl4shb4ck> let me test that
[09:14] <Xiella> What's a good mud client for kubuntu in karmic?
[09:19] <fl4shb4ck> TheKro:
[09:19] <fl4shb4ck> are you here?
[09:22] <TheKro> hi fl4shb4ck
[09:22] <fl4shb4ck> without password it works
[09:22] <fl4shb4ck> but this can't be the solution^^
[09:23] <TheKro> fl4shb4ck: it's not the solution, it's isolating the problem
[09:23] <fl4shb4ck> and what to do now?
[09:24] <TheKro> your router is fine, and your machine can connect to wireless.  So there's something wrong with your wireless config, or your ubuntu's handling of some kind of encryption
[09:24] <TheKro> did you use a non-encrypted router, or put your own router's encryption on?
[09:25] <fl4shb4ck> My router encrypts the wlan with wpa2 psk automaticly and it worked with 8 / 9.04 perfectly
[09:26] <TheKro> fl4shb4ck: do you have access to the router you connected to with no encryption?  if so, you can try enabling some encryption, and see if you can still connect
[09:27] <TheKro> i'm probly going offline in a moment - my upgrade is modifying my kernel
[09:27] <fl4shb4ck> I was able to connect to an non.encryptet wlan, and I've tried the encryptions wep / wpa2 but it didn't work
[09:27] <fl4shb4ck> yes, and I will smoke a cigarette now, see you in a few minutes
[09:36] <ilter> I've a problem about audio h/w after upgrading 9.10. It seems kubuntu recognize different audio h/w. Because of this some application (Amarok, Dragon player ..) couldn't recognize audio card. But for example vlc recognize audio card and it plays musics without problem. How can i fix it?
[09:36] <TheKro> is there a portuguese #ubuntu or#kubuntu?
[09:37] <Guest53169> hello every one :) i am trying to make an installation usb from kubuntu9.10dvd.iso, but every technique i used i received during boot "could not find kernel image" i am desperate ... what should i do ???
[09:40] <fl4shb4ck> so, i will reinstall kubuntu :D
[09:41] <TheKro> fl4shb4ck: i expect it's a config issue - so re-installing probably won't solve it
[09:41] <fl4shb4ck> :-/
[09:41] <fl4shb4ck> but I need to solv that quickly, I need wlan for school
[09:42] <fl4shb4ck> and do you know how to change the questionmark-icons?
[09:42] <TheKro> i have no idea about the ?-icons
[09:43] <TheKro> fl4shb4ck: if your router has MAC filtering, try putting that on, only allow your pc (and others that need access), and then put encryption off
[09:43] <TheKro> it's a workaround for now
[09:43] <TheKro> and your router's still protecte
[09:45] <TheKro> fl4shb4ck: gotta restart - bbiab, hopefully
[09:45] <Rodensky> How do i pause the distro-upgrade being done in the terminal?
[09:46] <ghabit> Hello. Uninstalling dragon-player asks for uninstalling kubuntu-desktop. How to delete it?
[09:46] <frenchy> sorry i changed nick :P but i am trying to make an usb installation with kubuntu9.10dvd.iso, but every technique i used to create the usb i received during boot "could not find kernel image" i am desperate ... what should i do ???
[09:48] <frenchy> ilter: try reinstall alsa
[09:48] <Rodensky> anyone...?
[09:48] <Rodensky> someone...?
[09:49] <frenchy> lol Rodensky i would have tried ctrl+c but i will be quite scarde of the result :p
[09:50] <valgaav> @ghabit kubuntu desktop is a meta package ... nothing will go wrong once you delate it
[09:50] <Vroomfondle> Rodensky: if it's started installing packages (rather than just downloading), you can't/shouldn't pause
[09:50] <Rodensky> it's downloading at the moment
[09:51] <Rodensky> not installing
[09:51] <Vroomfondle> then hit ctrl-c a lot
[09:52] <Rodensky> newbie+noob=noobie, and that's me, so please... be kind... :]
[09:52] <valgaav> Rodensky: maybe kill it  from a second terminal ?
[09:53] <Rodensky> ctrl+c - what is it supposed to do?
[09:53] <Rodensky> i want to pause it for a while so that i can resume it later from the same point
[09:54] <Rodensky> there is no way to do that without risking the download already made?
[09:54] <jeroen_> hey, can somebody help me with my hda-intel sound driver? :( I cant get it to work
[09:55] <memenode> quick question.. what's the KDE vnc program?
[09:55] <frenchy> jeroen_:  which model do you have ?
[09:55] <jeroen_> ALC889A
[09:55] <frenchy> jeroen_: have you tried to specify a model in ur alsa conf ?
[09:56] <jeroen_> frenchy: thats the codec at least,
[09:56] <jeroen_> frenchy: couldnt find it
[09:56] <frenchy> jeroen_: which disto are u using ?
[09:56] <jeroen_> Kubuntu 9.10
[09:57] <Rodensky> already 50%... what's are the odds of the download finishing in 10 minutes? :|
[09:57] <Rodensky> *what
[09:58] <Vroomfondle> erm, depends what download speed you're getting ;)
[09:58] <Vroomfondle> Rodensky: there's no risk to the existing download
[09:59] <Rodensky> ~15.1kB/s )-;
[09:59] <Vroomfondle> you can jsut quit the download and then apt will pick up where it left off later on, more or less
[09:59] <Vroomfondle> but in the meantime you may have difficulty using apt for other things
[09:59] <frenchy> jeroen_: in ur /etc/modprobe.d edit alsa-base.conf
[10:00] <jeroen_> frenchy: ok
[10:01] <frenchy> jeroen_: add options snd-hda-intel model= xxxxx
[10:01] <frenchy> jeroen_:  sorry add "options snd-hda-intel model=" and the the model the closest to ur lapto make a research on alsa
[10:02] <jeroen_> frenchy: I dont have a laptop :) hehe
[10:02] <frenchy> jeroen_: hope it will fix ur problem
[10:02] <Rodensky> Vroomfondle: i need firefox and a bandwidth for 2 hours, that's all
[10:02] <Vroomfondle> then you'll be ok.
[10:02] <Rodensky> will i be able to continue later with the download via terminal if a kill it now?
[10:03] <frenchy> jeroen_: lol, so the closest description to ur card, i.e 3 slacks, 2 ect ...
[10:03] <frenchy> Rodensky: try to freeze the process
[10:03] <Rodensky> i'm always ok... the problem is with the pc :P
[10:04] <Rodensky> so... how do i kill it? ctrl+c?
[10:05] <frenchy> Rodensky: lunch system monitor
[10:05] <ilter> When I try to open a mp3 file with Amarok KDE gives this message: "the audio playback device HDA Intel, ALC883 Digital (IE958(S/PDIF) Digital Audio Output) does not work. Failing back to..". But when i try it with VLC it works without any problem. Any comment?
[10:05] <Rodensky> i opened system monitor and i see the gnome-terminal->bash process. i have an option to stop it, is that what you meant?
[10:05] <frenchy> Rodensky: yup
[10:06] <jeroen_> frenchy: Possible to test without reboot? :P
[10:06] <Rodensky> THANK  YOU :D
[10:07] <frenchy> jeroen_: yes, but i don't remember how :p
[10:07] <jeroen_> frenchy: ok :P iĺl simply reboot
[10:07] <jeroen_> frenchy: thx for your help so far :D
[10:08] <frenchy> can someone help me with my usb install ??? i think i need to edit syslinux.cfg
[10:10] <frenchy> common guys, i a desperate here :p
[10:19] <jeroen_> frenchy: :( it didnt work.  i cant even open Kmix now
[10:20] <frenchy> jeroen_: hmmm that suck :(  one sec
[10:21] <frenchy> jeroen_: can u run "~$ cat /proc/asound/card0/codec#* | grep Code" plz
[10:22] <jeroen_> frenchy: no such file or directory
[10:23] <frenchy> ok jeroen_ please delete the line u added in alsa-base.conf and do "rcalsasound restart"
[10:23] <jeroen_> ok
[10:24] <frenchy> jeroen_: or "sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart" if the first doesn't work
[10:25] <jeroen_> frenchy: its giving me errors that the soundcard cant be found
[10:27] <frenchy> jeroen_: can u pastebin me the error ?
[10:27] <jeroen_> frenchy: http://pastebin.com/d6f07b23e
[10:29] <frenchy> jeroen_: can u lspci me please :)
[10:29] <frenchy> jeroen_: and then pastebin the result
[10:29] <jeroen_> frenchy: there is more but i think u need this line:     00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) HD Audio Controller
[10:30] <jeroen_> frenchy: otherwise http://pastebin.com/d6cb66250
[10:32] <frenchy> jeroen_: 1 sec
[10:34] <u19809> does anybody know of a binary jaunty compatible qt version > 4.5.1 ?
[10:38] <frenchy> jeroen_: can u put # before "options snd-hda-intel model=" that u added in alsa-base.conf and then reboot ??
[10:39] <jeroen_> frenchy: I allready removed it and restarted alsa. but i didnt reboot yet. iĺl try that
[10:43] <jeroen_> frenchy: Hey, still not working but i can remember kde asking me to forget the HDA Intel (Analog) card and I did press yes :P
[10:43] <jeroen_> frenchy: is there a way to undo that?
[10:43] <frenchy> jeroen_: please follow that tutorial http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=789578
[10:49] <shadeslayer> any idea where i can get the CD cover for kubuntu 9.10?
[10:49] <teemu_> Hi
[10:50] <teemu_> I've installed Karmic on MacBook Pro and it's up and running just fine, but I fail to get @-sign. I've tried to look up option for it from Xkb but didn't see one..
[10:51] <teemu_> So does anyone have an idea where I could get the @-sign ? :)
[10:51] <TheKro> teemu_: sign up for a free email address on gmail ;)
[10:51] <teemu_> That's evil
[10:52] <jussi01> teemu_: one of modifyer keys + 2?
[10:53] <teemu_> jussi01: modifier key?
[10:53] <jussi01> teemu_: last time I looked, macs had secveral modifier keys, alt gr, one tat looks like a step?, apple key etc...
[10:54] <teemu_> Ah, yes. Well I've tried pretty much every combination I can come up with :P
[10:54] <teemu_> I have keyboard layout set to MacBook/MacBook Pro (Intl)
[10:54] <jussi01> try setting it to the finnish layout.
[10:55] <teemu_> I have that :)
[10:55] <jussi01> tight. Impretty sure on a mac its the key that looks like a step, + 2
[10:55] <jussi01> not sure about a mac with linux
[10:57] <xajter> .
[11:10] <azhoral> ciao a tutti
[11:11] <jussi01> !it | azhoral
[11:25] <avash> LinusTorvalds: hey
[11:25] <LinusTorvalds> hi
[11:26] <LinusTorvalds> i will remove kubuntu
[11:26] <LinusTorvalds> in the future
[11:26] <avash> wha tdoes that mean?
[11:26] <LinusTorvalds> hey
[11:26] <avash> hey
[11:26] <avash> hey
[11:26] <avash> hey
[11:47] <trijntje> hi all, where did the in-program help for audacity go?
[11:49] <brywilharris> Hi all
[11:50] <johnferrei_lei> what is the command to know my router's ip?
[11:50] <brywilharris> ifconfig
[11:50] <johnferrei_lei> i only shows my mac adress
[11:50] <johnferrei_lei> :(
[11:50] <brywilharris> then you're not connected to anything
[11:50] <brywilharris> you've got no route
[11:51] <brywilharris> can't connect to anything anywhere
[11:51] <johnferrei_lei> yes, it shows my ip
[11:51] <brywilharris> are you on a different computer?
[11:51] <johnferrei_lei> but it is my ip 192.168.*
[11:51] <johnferrei_lei> i want my external ip
[11:51] <johnferrei_lei> public ip
[11:51] <brywilharris> ah
[11:51] <johnferrei_lei> :)
[11:51] <brywilharris> go to www.grc.com
[11:52] <brywilharris> and click shields up
[11:52] <brywilharris> that will tell you (as well as doing a port scan to look for security holes)
[11:52] <brywilharris> if you wish
[11:52] <brywilharris> but first it'll tell you dou IP and domain name
[11:52] <Dragnslcr> johnferrei_lei- http://www.whatsmyip.org/
[11:52] <johnferrei_lei> isnt there a command espefic command to get my public ip (im on a router)
[11:52] <brywilharris> traceroute might do it
[11:53] <brywilharris> traceroute www.google.com
[11:53] <trijntje> hi all, where did the in-program help for audacity go?
[11:53] <brywilharris> nope nevermind
[11:53] <Dragnslcr> If you're on the router itself, ifconfig would show the external interface. If you're behind a router, then there is no way for your computer to know the router's external address without asking an outside server
[11:54] <brywilharris> Unplug from the router and plug into the modem directly for a minute
[11:54] <brywilharris> then do an ifconfig
[11:55] <brywilharris> So I had an F_ing wopper of a bug on upgrade to Karmic last night
[11:55] <johnferrei_lei> thanks for the explication Dragnslcr
[11:56] <brywilharris> My mount, umount, ping, and ping6 somehow lost their default permissions
[11:56] <johnferrei_lei> traceroute is doing the job but it gave me a lot of ip's
[11:56] <brywilharris> no it will not show your external IP
[11:56] <brywilharris> I checked
[11:56] <johnferrei_lei> thnkz
[11:57] <johnferrei_lei> maybe the best way is really the whatsmyip.com
[11:57] <brywilharris> you want something to do it automatically?
[11:57] <johnferrei_lei> i only wanted to know a command so that i can put on my aliases
[11:57] <johnferrei_lei> :s
[11:57] <brywilharris> hm
[11:58] <brywilharris> Does anybody have any idea how the mount command permissions could have gotten changed on upgrade?
[11:58] <brywilharris> They were changed to 000 and nothing would mount
[11:58] <brywilharris> NICE
[11:59] <brywilharris> Computer wouldn't boot after the upgrade
[11:59] <aLeSD> hi all
[11:59] <brywilharris> It really freaked me out
[11:59] <aLeSD> could u suggest me a n application to use my webam ?
[12:00] <brywilharris> cheese
[12:00] <trijntje> How can i acces the in-program documentation of audacity?
[12:00] <shadeslayer> aLeSD: cheese
[12:00] <aLeSD> thanks
[12:00] <shadeslayer> trijntje: press F1...
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[12:03] <lotus> cute
[12:03] <trijntje> shadeslayer, i'm an idiot, thanks for you time. The 'help' menu was hidden because I didnt had audacity full screen
[12:04] <johnferrei_lei> i found it! :) the best command to find my external ip is: $wget -q -O - checkip.dyndns.org|sed -e 's/.*Current IP Address: //' -e 's/<.*$//'
[12:04] <tred> can someone tell me the proper syntax for a wildcard search in synaptic pkg mgr plz?
[12:04] <johnferrei_lei> thnkz for your time
[12:20] <nicklas__> yo
[12:21] <tred> can someone tell me the proper syntax for a wildcard search in synaptic pkg mgr plz?
[12:24] <ilter> Hello. How can i start Amarok from terminal? I want to see errors ..
[12:26] <nicklas__> ilter: amarok
[12:26] <shadeslayer> tred: why not use kpacakagekit?
[12:27] <ilter> nicklas_: thank you. I've a problem Amarok. It plays but it doesn't give sound.
[12:28] <ilter> nicklas_:Do you have any idea?
[12:28] <tred> because i like synaptic mostly
[12:28] <nicklas__> ilter: have you checked your audio/volume controls?
[12:29] <nicklas__> ilter: in kmix
[12:29] <ilter> nicklas_: Yes i checked. VLC plays and gives sounds .. But Amarok doesn't.
[12:30] <shadeslayer> tred: hmm... well try typing an part of the software you want or a small description of it
[12:30] <nicklas__> ilter: maybe you can activate all channels in kmix, and try the ones you think are right
[12:30] <nicklas__> tred: kpackagekit is like synaptic, just looks different
[12:31] <nicklas__> ilter: if that doesnt work, then i guess you will have to change audio output device for amarok
[12:31] <tred> i want to do general search, example of problem, if i type netwalk it finds nothing, but if i type knetwalk it finds package, i want to be able to search *netwalk and find knetwalk etc
[12:32] <ilter> nicklas_: i activate all channels but all of them seem ok.
[12:32] <nicklas__> ilter: ok
[12:32] <nicklas__> ilter: then its a sound server problem
[12:32] <nicklas__> ilter: not so good with that in kde
[12:33] <nicklas__> ilter: in gnome i know how to solve it, not so good with kde yet
[12:33] <shadeslayer> tred: wierd... well kpackagekit did find the package,but theres an alternative,try : apt-cache search netwalk : in a konsole
[12:33] <shadeslayer> tred: also try asking in #ubuntu
[12:34] <tred> i am asking how to do this in synaptic, not alternatives
[12:34] <ilter> nicklas_: thank you. I searched this problem on forums and i found that Amarok has a problem with Alc883 with PulseAudio. How can i remove PulseAudio?
[12:34] <tred> yes i will ask in ubuntu again soon
[12:34] <NicoAJ> Hi! Does anybody know how to configure KMail so as to have each "set" of folders [Mailbox+OutBox+Drafts+etc] for each account ?
[12:34] <kooolanl> hi guys
[12:34] <nicklas__> ilter: its weird, cause i have sound in amarok
[12:35] <kooolanl> i have a fresh ubuntu install and dont seem to have root yet  can anyone tell me how i make a root account :D
[12:35] <nicklas__> ilter: well, in gnome you can change audio output device in multimedia settings, but in kde i dont know how to do that
[12:35] <shadeslayer> kooolanl: uh.. its made by default
[12:36] <NicoAJ> Have you tried in VLC options-Audio-Output? try changing to PulseAudio
[12:36] <kooolanl> i made my account when installing but i dont thing that is the same ?
[12:36] <nicklas__> NicoAJ: hes talking about amarok now :-P read :-P
[12:36] <NicoAJ> D'ough! Sorry
[12:36] <kooolanl> shadeslayer
[12:37] <ilter> nicklas_: i can change device preference. Alc883 Digital is on top.
[12:37] <nicklas__> NicoAJ: ;-)
[12:37] <nicklas__> ilter: well try to change then and see if that works :-)
[12:37] <ilter> nicklas_: PulseAudio is second. But Amarok still doesnt give sound.
[12:38] <nicklas__> ilter: dont know, sorry :-S
[12:38] <ilter> nicklas_: I think that it's about Amarok and Dragon Player. VLC and RealPlayer gives sound well.
[12:38] <ilter> nicklas_:Ok nicklas_. Thank you for your concern.
[12:39] <nicklas__> ilter: only thing i know is that i know that in sabayon, i used audacious, and didnt have sound, so i changed output device in audacious, and it worked
[12:39] <nicklas__> ilter: you could change to audacious?
[12:40] <kooolanl> shadeslayer http://pastebin.com/d618584f1
[12:41] <ilter> nicklas_: sorry what is audacious?
[12:41] <nicklas__> ilter: http://audacious-media-player.org/
[12:41] <NicoAJ> smthing like ALSA, but non GPL I think
[12:41] <NicoAJ> forget what I wrote
[12:42] <nicklas__> ilter: i think xmms also works like audacious
[12:42] <fl4shb4ck> hi there :)
[12:43] <nicklas__> ilter: i think they are both in repos
[12:43] <fl4shb4ck> does anyone know, if there is a widget for the internet speed?
[12:43] <nicklas__> ilter: but if you want amarok, you have to solve it differently im afraid, and im afraid i dont know how
[12:45] <ilter> nicklas_: i got it you mentioned that other programs to play mp3 files. But in actually i want to solve this problem to learn. I've VLC which it works stable and gives sound now. Thank you so much for your hepls.
[12:48] <NicoAJ> any ideas about my KMail issue?
[12:48] <smellynoser> I've just upgraded to karmic koala and I have to boot into recovery mode to get to a shell as normal mode just gets me a black screen
[12:48] <smellynoser> so I'm at a root shell, and I try to start KDM and it says: "Nope, already running with this PID", but it isn't
[12:48] <smellynoser> Same with GDM
[12:49] <smellynoser> How do I stop it being stupid?
[12:50] <amik> smellynoser: try 'sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop'
[12:51] <amik> smellynoser: or 'restart' instead of 'stop' if u want it running... or 'start' if it ain't...
[12:53] <Ko_deZ> Hi.
[12:54] <Ko_deZ> Just installed karmic. I miss emacs21. Has it been removed? Then package is still there if I search.
[12:55] <tred> i see emacs23 in pkg list
[12:58] <Tesssa> any problems installing or upgrading to #kubuntu please
[12:59] <Tesssa> having problems with ubuntu and xubuntu
[12:59] <Tesssa> ufrom 9.04 to 9.10
[13:00] <tred> i recently installed it and have only minor glitches
[13:00] <tred> i instaslled 9.04 and upgraded to 9.10
[13:00] <kepplermig> hola
[13:00] <Tesssa> well mine upgrade locks up at the login window
[13:01] <Tesssa> so may wait untill april 2010 and install that version
[13:01] <tred> reinstall 9.04
[13:01] <Tesssa> i have
[13:02] <tred> now use the livecd and backup an image with partimage
[13:02] <tred> so u dont lose everything if u need to reinstall again
[13:03] <Tesssa> no i will wait untill april i do like 9.04 but thanks all the same
[13:03] <Tesssa> seems like 9.10 is buggy
[13:03] <Tesssa> looking at their site
[13:03] <Tesssa> anyway thanks
[13:09] <kexman> hi
[13:09] <kexman> i wanted to replace my windows with kubuntu :)
[13:09] <kexman> problem is that i already have a gentoo set p next to the windows :)
[13:09] <kexman> hehe :)
[13:10] <kexman> i selected manual partitioning (advanced)
[13:10] <kexman> then at the last part i didnt know where to install bootloader
[13:10] <kexman> could anyone help me with that ?
[13:12] <root> I there
[13:12] <Guest73068> i've a problem log into kubuntu 9.10
[13:13] <Guest73068> I activated autologin through GUI in system pref
[13:13] <Guest73068> all works fine until today
[13:13] <oobe> Guest73068, i think you will need to be more specific
[13:13] <Guest73068> but since today, i've the kdm screen at login time and my login doesn't worlk
[13:14] <oobe> try using gdm
[13:14] <Guest73068> so i've done ctrl+alt+f1, killall -9 kdm && killall -9 Xorg && startx
[13:14] <Guest73068> and it works
[13:14] <kexman> can i have a single / mountpoint ?
[13:14] <Guest73068> mmm I can use gdm with kubuntu ?
[13:14] <kexman> i selected that at the installation
[13:15] <oobe> yes kexman
[13:15] <Guest73068> i've a partition for / (ext4) and one for /home (ext3)
[13:15] <kexman> oobe: k and what about the bootloader ?
[13:15] <kexman> where should that reside ?
[13:15] <nicklas__> ilter: hows it going?
[13:16] <oobe> optonal but choosing the first part of hdd is best
[13:16] <Guest73068> oobe: how could i use gdm in kubuntu ?
[13:16] <Guest73068> Have i to remove kdm ?
[13:17] <kexman> oobe: hmmm first part ?
[13:17] <Guest73068> and why could i login through console and not through kdm ?
[13:17] <kexman> doesnt he partition that the bootloader resides needs to be bootable ?
[13:17] <kexman> should i select the /dev/sda disk itself ?
[13:18] <kexman> oobe: can it reside on the same partition as the / ?
[13:18] <ilter> nicklas_: i noticed that xine using pulseAudio sound server. And i think that Amarok and Dragon use xine. On the other hand VLC and RealPlayer use ALSA.
[13:19] <Demerzel> morning folks
[13:19] <ilter> nicklas_: Now i trying to find xine configuration.
[13:19] <Demerzel> i've got an interesting issue - krandr doesn't let me adjust the position of my screens ... is that a known issue?
[13:19] <ilter> nicklas_:i think that if i change sound server which xine use, i'll solve the problem.
[13:20] <nicklas__> ilter: ok
[13:22] <idyllic> hi, I have a problem with boot with a fresh installed Karmic  Kubuntu - http://paste.ubuntu.com/307510/
[13:22] <mime> hello averyone, there is a way for having kubuntu 9.04 drivers on karmic koala?
[13:22] <mime> thank you
[13:23] <mime> the sound ones
[13:23] <mime> because now when putting the jack, mutes the speker
[13:23] <mime> I don't like kk
[13:23] <shadeslayer> mime: thats the standard behaviour
[13:24] <mime> yes, but now my two ext, spekers they dont go, any software or something?
[13:24] <mime> i looked in alsamixer, etc...
[13:24] <idyllic> hi, I have a problem with boot with a fresh installed Karmic  Kubuntu - http://paste.ubuntu.com/307510/
[13:24] <mime> i think i need an specific soft
[13:24] <shadeslayer> idyllic: try changing everything after " defaults " in line 21 to : 0 0
[13:25] <mime> i have jack control, but i don't know if that is good
[13:25] <shadeslayer> mime: no idea
 why? cos i want to write on my ntfs without dolphin nagging me about ownerhsip
[13:25] <mime> thank you =
[13:26] <mime> i just can't undrstand why they dont let you choose
[13:26] <kubuntu_> kubuntu is goodd
[13:26] <kubuntu_> kubuntu is so gorgeous
[13:26] <kubuntu_> don't you think so???
[13:26] <kubuntu_> any body
[13:26] <mime> yes, i will erase all and install it again, with amarok 1.4 :P
[13:27] <kubuntu_> why
[13:27] <kubuntu_> any problems
[13:27] <somekool> Hi ! my touchpad stopped working after upgrading to Kubuntu 9.10 . any idea what could it be ?
[13:27] <mime> if i know karmic going to do that, ill not update
[13:27] <kubuntu_> stopped working?
[13:27] <kubuntu_> cannot start up
[13:27] <kubuntu_> or other problems
[13:27] <mime> my jack while conected stals sound from ext spekers
[13:27] <mime> muted the
[13:28] <mime> m
[13:28] <shadeslayer> somekool: whats the touchpad make?
[13:28] <`oobe`> i had many problems with karmic also
[13:28] <idyllic> hi, I have a problem with boot with a fresh installed Karmic  Kubuntu - http://paste.ubuntu.com/307510/
[13:28] <Demerzel> this is what I see when I try to use krandr to reposition my screens the way my displays are positioned: http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/1994/krandrscreenpositioning.png
[13:28] <Demerzel> any thoughts?
[13:29] <Demerzel> there's no option to reposition screens
[13:29] <mime> well, another issue is in dual boot, when selecting kubuntu, it redirects me into a ''shell'' or ms dos window were the only thing i see is ''grub>''
[13:29] <shadeslayer> idyllic: did you see my earlier comment?
[13:29] <mime> thnx shades
[13:29] <`oobe`> i suspect many of the devs working on karmic arnt too experienced
[13:29] <shadeslayer> idyllic: ignore that
 did you see my as well?
 i mean i can try to not mount my ntfs at all
[13:30] <shadeslayer> idyllic: it didnt get highlighted since your using the '<'
[13:30] <kubuntu_> ntf2-3g
[13:30] <kubuntu_> ntfs-3g
[13:31] <idyllic> shadeslayer: so what is your take? I don't think there is anywrong with my ntfs mounting. i can revert back to the default one gid=46 (plugdev that's)
[13:31] <kubuntu_> today is so cold
[13:31] <kubuntu_> I cannot bear it
[13:31] <shadeslayer> idyllic: apart from that,all i can think of is for you to check the blkid's
[13:32] <somekool> shadeslayer: very funny
[13:32] <idyllic> shadeslayer: blkid is the same. CHecked
[13:32] <shadeslayer> somekool: ?
[13:32] <shadeslayer> idyllic: can you try and comment out the ntfs partition and try to boot?
[13:33] <shadeslayer> idyllic: http://pastebin.com/f1163daf << my fstab
[13:34] <idyllic> shadeslayer: so you suggesting me to use /dev/sdaX to mount my ntfs? instead of blkid?
[13:36] <shadeslayer> idyllic: no,im saying that comment out the ntfs lines and see if the PC boots
[13:37] <idyllic> shadeslayer: same =/
[13:38] <shadeslayer> idyllic: ok i thought it might been have the data partition,but now i have no idea :(
[13:38] <idyllic> shadeslayer: thanks for your help though.  Google results didn't help me much. Still the same.
[13:39] <idyllic> shadeslayer: anyway, you mount ntfs defaults without utf8 @_@
[13:39] <shadeslayer> idyllic: whats utf8 ?
[13:40] <danielle> http://pastebin.com/d4dad2cf4  can some one please tell me why this is not working
[13:40] <idyllic> shadeslayer:  unicode 8 encodiing :D
[13:41] <shadeslayer> idyllic: and thatll help me how?
[13:41] <Demerzel> anyone who can help out with http://imagebin.org/70148 ? krandr doesn't let me re-position my screens to match their physical positioning
[13:42] <kexman> this kubuntu installs strange :)
[13:42] <kexman> first it installs then it removes :) hehe
[13:43] <danielle> lol
[13:43] <Demerzel> probably upgrading from 9.04?
[13:43] <Demerzel> the removal is cathartic for me :)
[13:44] <kexman> im installing 9.04
[13:44] <kexman> dont have the bandwitdth to download newest now
[13:45] <kexman> i tought i install this and then upgrade
[13:45] <kexman> asap
[13:45] <Demerzel> you'll install that
[13:45] <Demerzel> and still need to upgrade to the latest patches
[13:45] <Demerzel> before you should upgrade to 9.10
[13:45] <Demerzel> that might offset the b/w savings completely
[13:46] <kexman> ia need a running OS asap :)
[13:46] <kexman> i can upgrade / download later
[13:46] <kexman> but i need this now
[13:46] <Demerzel> ah .. different story :)
[13:46] <kexman> :)
[13:46] <danielle> welcome vista7 :P
[13:46] <vistar7_> hello
[13:46] <kexman> just said hello & byebye to xp :)
[13:46] <kexman> converted to ext3
[13:46] <danielle> now whats your problem
[13:46] <guitar431> did i mentioned today that is still love kubuntu?
[13:46] <djkm> hello.
[13:46] <Demerzel> vistar7_: before you ask, no, it's not ubuntu it's 42
[13:47] <kexman> lol
[13:47] <danielle> HA ROFL demerzel
[13:47] <Demerzel> :)
[13:47] <vistar7_> i will explain my problem. I have session KDE running, with the theme Vistar7...now the system crashes or freezes at random times without record in log files. I am unsure if it the the theme or the actual KDE problem..
[13:47] <guitar431> keep up your good work kubuntu is getting better and better
[13:47] <djkm> i would like  to install kubuntu 9.10. My laptop is toshiba a350-22z. does it support my laptop?
[13:48] <Demerzel> guitar431: i'm sure the devs appreciate that :)
[13:48] <shadeslayer> !hardware
[13:48] <djkm> Kubuntu Netbook Edition 9.10 or Kubuntu 9.10 ? which one is for me?
[13:48] <vistar7_> is anyone experiencing frequent freezes in KDE sessions?
[13:48] <Demerzel> i think it will be useful to create a windows-based app similar to the vista/windows 7 upgrade advisor
[13:48] <Demerzel> vistar7_: not i ... not yet at least .. just upgraded to karmic
[13:49] <danielle> i was with the elementery 1.7 icon pack installed
[13:49] <Ash-Fox> !ipv6
[13:49] <danielle> try diff theme then if it dont crash you have your problem :P
[13:49] <vistar7_> so it could be the problem with the theme...as Vistar7 is does not have support
[13:50] <danielle> danielle *giggles* i have gnome and kde na na naaa na naaaa
[13:50] <Demerzel> vistar7_: it might very well be ... i'd recommend disabling it and sticking with the original for a few days
[13:50] <vistar7_> does anyone know of a nice theme for KDE which i could DL
[13:50] <danielle> look in synaptic under kde themes
[13:51] <vistar7_> alright Demerzel ill try doin that for a few days..hopefully thats the only problem coz i would like to stick with KDE session as i like the interface^^
[13:52] <danielle> vistar7 try sudo apt-get install kdeartwork-theme-window
[13:52] <vistar7_> alright doin that now
[13:53] <vistar7_> cant find package?
[13:53] <vistar7_> dont think i have the repositry
[13:55] <danielle> sudo apt-get install kdeartwork-theme-window kdeartwork-theme-icon-kde4  kdeartwork-style  works for me
[13:56] <danielle> otherwise open synaptic go to setings and add more repos from the tick boxes
[13:56] <danielle> now to work out my problem :(
[13:58] <BluesKaj> hiyas all
[13:58] <danielle> hi
[14:02] <ubuntu> hello everyone
[14:02] <danielle> now to sit back and watch 31.5 gb of repos download on 25kb/s internet......
[14:03] <danielle> hello ubuntu
[14:03] <kexman> duhhh
[14:03] <vistar7_> OMG
[14:03] <ubuntu> why are you downloading so much?
[14:03] <kexman> why you need 31.5 gb ???
[14:03] <kexman> i dont understand neither
[14:04] <Demerzel> that's a lot of stuff
[14:04] <Demerzel> are you trying to mirror the repos?
[14:04] <kexman> hehe :)
[14:04] <kexman> he wont tell
[14:04] <danielle> :D
[14:05] <kexman> he / she ?
[14:05] <Demerzel> danielle sounds like a she
[14:05] <danielle> both if you want
[14:05] <danielle> :P
[14:05] <Demerzel> spells like a she too
[14:05] <Demerzel> wow 25k
[14:05] <Demerzel> that's craziness
[14:05] <vistar7_> ^^
[14:06] <danielle> *attempt deep voice* i could be a boy
[14:06] <Demerzel> i wonder if there are alternatives i.e. maybe ubuntu could ship you the repo on dvds?
[14:06] <danielle> 22yo lady tasmania australia
[14:06] <Demerzel> nice
[14:06] <Pici> Does it matter?
[14:07] <danielle> 30 gb worth? ha lol i would prefer bluray
[14:07] <Demerzel> i miss cricket now that i'm out of a cricket watching country
[14:07] <Demerzel> i'd move to .au but too many issues there for me
[14:07] <Demerzel> 30g - maybe a hard drive
[14:08] <Demerzel> there's no ubuntu one client for kde right?
[14:08] <danielle> spot on about aussie issues
[14:09] <danielle> danielle *thinks barrage is fun*
[14:09] <danielle> d i did not understand that
[14:09] <vistar7_> i live in AU right now^^
[14:10] <danielle> where ?
[14:10] <vistar7_> Adelaide
[14:10] <danielle> in in burnie tasmania and it's "pissn down"
[14:11] <vistar7_> anyone got 9.10, is there a major improvement in 9.10 or..?
[14:11] <danielle> and you have bigpond internet :P
[14:12] <danielle> well yeah the ext4 run well fast
[14:12] <vistar7_> bigpond internet sucks soooo bad...i wanna change it
[14:12] <danielle> haha contract
[14:12] <vistar7_> coz everything is telstra like phones and stuff loll
[14:12] <vistar7_> i heard bout ext4
[14:12] <Demerzel> ext4 still has issues with large files
[14:12] <danielle> applications seem to crash a lot on 9.10 than they did on 9.04 i say wait a few weeks till you upgrade
[14:13] <vistar7_> i think i am using ext3
[14:13] <Demerzel> or were they resolve?
[14:13] <Demerzel> resolved even
[14:13] <BluesKaj> never heard that ext4 has issues with large files
[14:13] <danielle> it's fine for the os all my games are on a nother hdd and movies etc... i use ntfs for storage even tho i dont use windows
[14:13] <EagleScreen> 9.10 works pretty well for me
[14:14] <danielle> eaglescreen do you have appls crqashing all the time?
[14:14] <vistar7_> i changed from windows to linux quite recently
[14:14] <danielle> my girlfriend has windows 7 it runs well aswell
[14:15] <danielle> buuut looks arnt everything i guess
[14:15] <BluesKaj> I have a W7 partition...seems alright
[14:15] <BluesKaj> don't use it much
[14:15] <Guest2283> hello guys,   my moizilla firefox do not show flash components!  what showld I install to repair it?
[14:15] <vistar7_> danielle i downloaded that kdeart file but cant seem to find in menu, how can i access it?
[14:16] <vistar7_> flash player?
[14:16] <BluesKaj> Guest2283, which kubuntu version ?
[14:16] <Guest2283> 8
[14:16] <danielle> no idea in in gnome atm
[14:16] <vistar7_> ohk
[14:17] <Demerzel> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/910#Possible%20corruption%20of%20large%20files%20with%20ext4%20filesystem
[14:17] <EagleScreen> not for me, danielle
   help me man
[14:18] <Demerzel> that's the link for the 9.10 release note regarding ext4 corruption with large files
[14:18] <BluesKaj> Guest2283, in the konsole, sudo aptitude install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[14:18] <danielle> sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozzila
[14:19] <Guest2283> 36.2MB
[14:19] <Guest2283> OK   I wait instalation
[14:19] <danielle> EagleScreen really! wow my laptop must be in the shitter
[14:19] <azhoral_> i. after 9.10 upgrade i can't use my old program in kdevelop4. I programming in C++ with Sdl and Opengl.. nothing compile, nothing build, nothing execute
[14:19] <Guest2283> flashplayer-mozzila   did not help
[14:20] <Guest2283> petr@ubuntu:~/Рабочий стол/project_checkers$ sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla
[14:20] <Guest2283> E: Не удалось получить доступ к файлу блокировки /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[14:20] <Guest2283> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[14:20] <Guest2283> petr@ubuntu:~/Рабочий стол/project_checkers$
[14:20] <FloodBotK1> Guest2283: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:20] <danielle> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[14:20] <EagleScreen> danielle: do you have creashes only in 9.10?
[14:21] <Guest2283> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree   I tryed it too    but it did not work
[14:21] <BluesKaj> Guest2283, open kpackage kit and edit sources, check all boxes, then open other sources and check all the boxes except for the cdrom
[14:21] <EagleScreen> Guest2283, danielle it is flashplugin-installer
[14:22] <BluesKaj> Guest2283, then sudo aptitude update , then ,sudo aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree
[14:22] <danielle> yes but it was an upgrade from 9.04 with the ext3 to ext4conversion and grub 2 conversion [thats proberly why]
[14:23] <danielle> Guest go here http://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer/productinfo/instructions/#section-3
[14:25] <BluesKaj> danielle, that may not work , it's the plugin he needs ,not the player, the palyer is installed by default
[14:27] <danielle> ahh ok my bad it's 2am here and i only had 4hrs sleep last nite [monster energy keeps me awake]
[14:28] <BluesKaj> danielle, ok, but pease don't use 'my bad'...it's ghetto talk and non native english speakers won't understand that
[14:29] <danielle> it is? lol my wrong doing then :P
[14:29] <danielle> yay 1% or 31.5 gb done
[14:30] <danielle> of*
[14:30] <BluesKaj> we need to be careful with shorthand expressions as well ...I'm guilty of using them too :)
[14:31] <danielle> funny you made me feel bad
[14:31] <BluesKaj> danielle, 31.5G ..what are you DLing ?
[14:31] <danielle> mirroring the karmic repos
[14:31] <kexman> hmm nice kubuntu
[14:31] <kexman> full of eyecandy :)
[14:31] <kexman> but moves like a snail on my craptop
[14:31] <BluesKaj> yeah, but everyone of them ? :)
[14:31] <danielle> yup
[14:32] <BluesKaj> why
[14:32] <danielle> i did not know what ones i wanted so i took them all.
[14:32] <BluesKaj> okaaaaay.....
[14:33] <danielle> clients pc's i fix computers "progamershop" i install ubuntu for them and when i install or update it savem me bandwith
[14:33] <danielle> in the long run that is
[14:34] <compilerwriter> How is Karmic going for everyone?
[14:34] <danielle> only 4 use it so far and they all recon it is faster that 7.10 :D
[14:34] <BluesKaj> so far so good for my setup , compilerwriter ...it depends on your HW mostly and how you install
[14:35] <danielle> i on the other hand have errors every where [identified tweeker]
[14:36] <compilerwriter> ok BluesKaj  I have this very generic 64 bit processor shuttle with intel on board.  As far as the install is concerned should I upgrade or do a fresh install from dvd?
[14:37] <pete_^> does anyone know what is going on with my tray? I remember seeing a bug in Qt somewhere regarding transparency and the tray but can't find it - http://i37.tinypic.com/35mo6xi.png
[14:37] <BluesKaj> compilerwriter, install update-manager , if you don't have it , then use it from the run box , that's the safest way IMO.
[14:38] <danielle> thats what i did
[14:38] <compilerwriter> I have not been very happy with kpackagekit BluesKaj; I take it you are in agreement with me on that one.
[14:39] <BluesKaj> kpackagekit is flaky , but update-manager is more like synaptic , very stable
[14:40] <BluesKaj> compilerwriter, update manager isn't meant to install packages anyway , it's designed to upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10
[14:41] <BluesKaj> err to be used to update from 9.04 to 9.10
[14:41] <danielle> ye b a whale
[14:41] <compilerwriter> Here is the other catch BluesKaj.  The box had forsight on it in the shop I was in.  They downloaded the i386 version and we installed it before I bought the machine.  I only have 1 gig of memory in it.  Should I download the 64 bit and do a fresh install or should I just upgrade the 386 version that I have.
[14:42] <danielle> oh sorry wrong room
[14:42] <BluesKaj> update-manager edits your sources.list automatically as well
[14:42] <compilerwriter> danielle what sort of troubles are you having with karmic?
[14:43] <danielle> programs crashing out of the blu but my desktop is heavly tweeked
[14:43] <kexman> can i reduce kubuntus visual effects to increase performance ?
[14:43] <danielle> kexman sudo kill all
[14:43] <compilerwriter> kexman I believe you can turn off the visual effects altogether.
[14:44] <BluesKaj> compilerwriter, do the upgrade with i386 , with only 1G RAM , 64 bit won't be much of a performance boost
[14:44] <pete_^> that would do more than disable visual effects..
[14:44] <danielle> pete lol true easy fix tho
[14:45] <pete_^> sudo apt-get install twm
[14:45] <compilerwriter> danielle you should keep in mind that we might have some very new people to linux who would take that at face value and be a bit upset with you after the fact.
[14:45] <pete_^> *likewise, don't bother installing twm unless you know what you're getting yourself into..*
[14:46] <compilerwriter> so BluesKaj sudo apt-get updatemanager?
[14:46] <BluesKaj> update-manager
[14:46] <compilerwriter> of course install should have been in there.
[14:46] <BluesKaj> use the -
[14:47] <compilerwriter> I can't type worth a crap this morning.  Not good since I used to be a 20K an hour data entry clerk.
[14:48] <BluesKaj> compilerwriter, then use the run command box to upgrade , alt+f2,  update-manager
[14:48] <pete_^> does anyone else use kde without desktop effects? (and NOT seen my bug?)
[14:49] <compilerwriter> Thanks BluesKaj
[14:49] <EagleScreen> pete_^: i dont see that bug since kde 4.1
[14:49] <compilerwriter> Will update manager work for every upgrade or is it just designed for this one?
[14:49] <pete_^> I thought it was gone too
[14:50] <danielle> ok
[14:50] <mugginz> pete_^: Is your system an upgrade or fresh install
[14:50] <pete_^> using the legacy nvidia driver on one machine ( FX 5 series) it isn't there
[14:50] <danielle> how can i stop x from xterm
[14:50] <BluesKaj> compilerwriter, np, there is a command some use in the konsole , but it hasn't been verified as totally effective and without breakage problems yet.
[14:50] <pete_^> with this one 9.10 fresh, new /home it's still there ( two nv50's)
[14:50] <EagleScreen> danielle: try: killall bash
[14:51] <pete_^> nohup sudo service kdm stop ?
[14:51] <compilerwriter> Now if we could just get quassel to more intelligently break the end of lines.
[14:51] <BluesKaj> compilerwriter, from one distro to the next one up, I think
[14:52] <BluesKaj> konversation is more my cup of tea
[14:52] <compilerwriter> Good old alt+f2.  Gotta love it.
[14:52] <pete_^> mugginz: so it is a new install. On another machine it isn't a problem with 9.04/kde 4.3.2
[14:52] <danielle> nope
[14:52] <mugginz> pete_^: Which driver?
[14:52] <danielle> i'm in gnome atm
[14:52] <pete_^> 190.42
[14:52] <compilerwriter> BluesKaj: I agree.  I have been giving quassel the old college try out though.  I may give up and revert to Konversation.
[14:52] <pete_^> mugginz: sorry, 190.42
[14:53] <Vlado9A3CY> 'morning :)
[14:53] <mugginz> pete_^: I'm still on 190.32 -
[14:54] <pete_^> mugginz: do you have desktop effects off?
[14:54] <mugginz> Both on and off their fine.
[14:54] <Dragnslcr> I went back to Konversation a while ago. In Quassel, when you go back to a channel after having not viewed it for a while, it would take Quassel several minutes to respond
[14:54] <pete_^> mugginz: I take it you have just the one GPU and no xinerama right?
[14:54] <mugginz> Will be doing a new install in the next few days, I hope I don't get hit with that buig
[14:55] <danielle> keeps telling me i have the x server started
[14:55] <mugginz> pete_^: Twinview
[14:55] <compilerwriter> BluesKaj: The thing  is showing me some importanat security fixes as well as the upgrade.  Should I just upgrade; or, should I do the security fixes first?
[14:55] <BluesKaj> I'm not a real eye candy guy , but the quassel look leaves me cold
[14:55] <pete_^> I liked IRC in Kopete
[14:56] <BluesKaj> go with the security fixes first for sure
[14:56] <compilerwriter> BluesKaj: it is not the look so much as the feel for me.
[14:56] <pete_^> mugginz: I'll try it with just two screens + twinview to see if it's still a problem
[14:56] <mugginz> pete_^: Cool.  Here's hoping it's OK
[14:57] <BluesKaj> compilerwriter, security fixes are important
[14:57] <compilerwriter> mugginz:Do you play cribbage or is that nick just a coinkydink?
[14:57] <pete_^> Problem is twinview as the name suggests only works with two screens
[14:57] <mugginz> pete_^: Just coinkydink
[14:57] <nickiname> hello...
[14:57] <pete_^> mugginz: wrong person to reply to
[14:57] <mugginz> pete_^: So what's mugginz in cribbage?
[14:58] <pete_^> mugginz: ask compilerwriter, I don't know what cribbage is either
[14:58] <mugginz> pete_^: Oops :)
[14:58] <BluesKaj> card game with a points board
[14:58] <compilerwriter> BluesKaj: I know they are important; I just thought perhaps they would be included with the upgrade and therefore might be a waste of time.
[14:58] <nickiname> i tried to make customized ubuntu. but i cannot change the hostname and username of live system. is there any script to edit?
[14:59] <BluesKaj> compilerwriter, it can't hurt
[14:59] <compilerwriter> pete_^: mugginz:  Just what BluesKaj said.
[14:59] <BluesKaj> or better not
[14:59] <mugginz> Never played it myseklf
[15:00] <compilerwriter> Well now that the security fixes are done I suppose I will cross myself and do the distro upgrade.
[15:01] <BluesKaj> compilerwriter, should be no problem
[15:01] <roKB> !status
[15:02] <compilerwriter> That is what I thought about my last root canal.  That turned into an ugly ordeal before it was over though.
[15:04] <phelerox> I'm having some KDE graphical glitches with icons on the taskbar. http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/2988/kde432kubuntu910glitch.png Some are just too huge! and weirdly located. I just did the upgrade to 9.10, although most of these glitches appeared some month ago when I grabbed KDE (was it) 4.3. Before I made the upgrade to 9.10 I used to have a glitch at the login-screen too. The vertical ends of the screen were filled with random 
[15:04] <kexman> compilerwriter: how ? where ?
[15:05] <kexman> its making my experience with kubuntu sloooooow
[15:05] <pete_^> mugginz: It looks like it's related to xinerama, when using twinview it's not a problem.
[15:06] <pete_^> although it's odd it isn't a problem on the other machine with xinerama though
[15:06] <mugginz> pete_^: I wonder if its related to the prob as phelerox is having?
[15:06] <mugginz> You need xinerama to two graphics cards yeh?
[15:07] <BluesKaj> compilerwriter, I normally do upgrades by the cli , but i was advised that the usual commands were depracated and replaced by update-manager, so it's as safe as a clean install afaik.
[15:08] <pete_^> mugginz: yes, maybe I should have gone the matrox THTG route though, doesn't seem to be any progress being made on Xorg gpu object (which as far as I understand would fix the sucky performance of xinerama too somehow)
[15:08] <mugginz> I just hope the ATI drivers mature soon.. I'm looking at an Eyefinity setup
[15:08] <mugginz> Three screens on one card
[15:09] <pete_^> mugginz: that would be nice, I've just been xinerama + dual NV for a while
[15:09] <joel__> My sdhc card cant be foudn in ubuntu or kubuntu
[15:09] <joel__> really annoying
[15:09] <pete_^> joel__: you do have a sdhc reader right?
[15:10] <danielle> wow i just updated my nvidia drivers and for the first time i did not crash x... ati wish they could do that
[15:10] <mugginz> pete_^: I just bought  a thrid 24" and was going to add a second NV card for a while.  I think I'll hold off till ATI drivers work
[15:10] <danielle> 3%
[15:11] <joel__> pete_^: yeah.. works fine in xp
[15:11] <joel__> its a built in one
[15:11] <joel__> and theres nothin in dmseg
[15:11] <pete_^> joel__: do you have a non HC card you can try?
[15:11] <Riddell> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek starting now
[15:11] <danielle> here is something diffrant i'm going to install every package in synaptic and see what happens
[15:12] <joel__> pete_^: No! Thing is, my girl has the same comp but with XP installed on it.. Its crap. But the only thing that I need for her to convert to linux is that I'll get the reader to work
[15:12] <joel__> Its for her camera
[15:13] <pete_^> joel__: It's entirely possible that the reader isn't supported at all, does her camera not have a usb cable without having to use a dock? That works fine for me
[15:14] <joel__> I see that possibility aswell.. She lost the cable but I guess its possible to buy a new one.
[15:14] <pete_^> mugginz: Do you have a link regarding this 3 screen on a single ati card? I told myself years ago that ATI was out of the question after seeing the sorry state of their linux driver
[15:15] <mugginz> pete_^: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NzUyNQ
[15:15] <pete_^> joel__: Luckily my inbuilt card reader also works (but the Memory stick one) doesn't
[15:15] <pete_^> joel__: That may be your best bet then sadly
[15:15] <joel__> gah
[15:15] <pete_^> joel__: what model is the laptop?
[15:17] <pete_^> mugginz: Do your screens have display port? I've only got DVI sadly
[15:17] <mugginz> pete_^: I believe you can get an adaptor to go from display port to DVI
[15:18] <mugginz> pete_^: The corrent Eyefinity cards have two DVI and one display port
[15:19] <pete_^> mugginz: I think I've seen that done actually, so maybe that is still a possibility
[15:19] <juacom99> hi, one question, i just install kubuntu 9.10 and i the only screen resolution option i got are 640x480 or 800x600 but on 9.04 i could use it on 1204x768 what may be happening?
[15:20] <mugginz> pete_^: I'm hopin.  I dont want to use two cards if I can help it.  To many problems as you've found.
[15:20] <pete_^> mugginz: that's why I've been tempted to get one of those matrox boxes
[15:21] <pete_^> mugginz: although they aren't exactly cheap
[15:21] <mugginz> pete_^: I believe the matrox boxes have sucky performance but.  I might be wrong though
[15:21] <pete_^> mugginz: How could they? It basically takes a signal in at 2*horizontal res and splits it
[15:21] <pete_^> mugginz: if we're talking about the same thing
[15:23] <mugginz> pete_^: As long as the card doin three screens has the bandwidth I guess it'd be OK.  I'm wanting to do 3 x 1920x1200 so I thought it mightn't like that
[15:25] <dinu> hi all,.. i have a problem: Can't connect to mobile broadband connection,..  when i connect modem to PC  its found as optical disk, after that i unplug it and its found as moden, i create a new connection called "Orange internet", but when i click  to "Orange Internet" icon, nothing happened. PS: sory for my bad english.
[15:26] <dinu> Have a ZTE MF637 modem
[15:26] <pete_^> mugginz: Hopefully, but you would be relying on exactly the same thing with the ATI solution (except they support it I guess)
[15:27] <mugginz> pete_^: I'm hoping a card designed to push threee screens simultanioulsy will be better that one designed for two.  But I guess it depends on how much monewy I want to spend :)
[15:29] <Zxcvb> any idea why kppp would keep saying "the pppd daemon died unexpectedly" with an exit code of 0? (log here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/307621/)
[15:29] <dinu> Any help plzz??
[15:29] <Zxcvb> and yes, connecting via pppd call works fine
[15:31] <Ash-Fox> !tmpfs
[15:32] <pete_^> mugginz: I remember reading somewhere that that maximum accelerated viewport the non business cards nvidia would push was less than I'd have required, supposedly some people had results with it though
[15:32] <pete_^> mugginz: so waiting might be the best bet
[15:33] <mugginz> pete_^: If benchmarks show the Matrox way to be good, I'd be interested, but now with Eyefinity I'm hoping ATI will get their device driver butts into gear
[15:34] <ibou> salut
[15:34] <ibou> hi
[15:35] <pete_^> mugginz: I guess it just depends how the GPU would cope with the extra high resolution
[15:35] <ibou> how comes that i can't read video dvds with kmplayer alhough i read them with dragon player ?
[15:43] <kitply> greetings! I was trying to connect my nokia 7210 model phone via kdebluetooth4, by searching for the phone and then clickng next. It gives an error " sorry your phone doesn't support input service"
[15:43] <kitply> i guess there is some problem between the nokia phones and kdebluetooth4
[15:43] <kitply> is there any workaround for this?
[15:44] <kitply> any help is appreicated,thanks
[15:44] <pete_^> mugginz: Back to xinerama and the transparency to black
[15:44] <skarlhoff> grüsse
[15:45] <mugginz> pete_^: Could you try an earlier driver?  In the past the KDE devs have blamed nVidia for those symptoms
[15:46] <pete_^> mugginz: It was a problem with whatever driver I tried back on 9.04 too, I'm just going to try Xinerama on one card to see if it's a problem there too
[15:46]  * Danial_View yawns
[15:47] <hyper_ch> hi there, is there a simple way to downgrade packages that I installed from a PPA to the ones in the official repos?
[15:47] <bigjools> hyper_ch: apt-get install packagename=version
[15:48] <hyper_ch> bigjools: will try that :)
[15:48] <pete_^> mugginz: Still a problem with just one GPU + xinerama, I'll go fetch an older driver
[15:48] <mugginz> pete_^: Cool, will be very interested in outcome.  By the way, I'm on 190.34 with a 9800GT
[15:48] <DrHydeHL> greating
[15:48] <pete_^> mugginz: 190.42 on a 8800gt and 9800gt
[15:50] <hyper_ch> bigjools: is there a mass downgrade tool for all of qt4?
[15:51] <DrHydeHL> german users here?
[15:52] <hyper_ch> DrHydeHL: #kubuntu-de
[15:52] <hyper_ch> bbl
[15:52] <juacom99> any idea of my screen porblem?? :S
[15:52] <Demerzel> folks ... i asked in #kubuntu but this isn't necessarily a kde problem - I experience the same issues in gnome - this is what i see when I run krandr to attempt repositioning my screens - http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/1994/krandrscreenpositioning.png - any ideas?
[15:53] <DrHydeHL> thx hyper
[15:53] <linex> I'm on 904. Can I not upgrade to 910 ?
[15:53] <bigjools> hyper_ch: I don't think so
[15:53] <Demerzel> linex: you need to update your distro completely to the latest patches and then upgrade to 9.10
[15:53] <juacom99> hi, one question, i just install kubuntu 9.10 and i the only screen resolution option i got are 640x480 or 800x600 but on 9.04 i could use it on 1204x768 what may be happening?
[15:54] <linex> Demerzel: ok thanks. SO its possible.
[15:54] <pete_^> mugginz: the tray is still black with 185.18.36
[15:54] <mugginz> pete_^: Bugger!  Is that with the 8800 or 9800?
[15:54] <pete_^> mugginz: both
[15:55] <rork> juacom99: the larger resolutions might not be recognized by your system you have to edit your /etc/X11/X11.conf manually or you can try to install a driver
[15:55] <mugginz> pete_^: On both screens?
[15:56] <pete_^> mugginz: I just moved the panel from one GPU to the other with even more amusing results
[15:56] <juacom99> rork: my xorg.conf is empty :S
[15:56] <mugginz> pete_^: How amusing?
[15:56] <mugginz> Is it even possible to do tripple screens over two cards without Xinerama?
[15:57] <mugginz> I might have to have a look at the nVidia driver docs
[15:57] <rork> juacom99: I meant xorg.conf idd, there isn't a backup?
[15:57] <juacom99> nop i did a fresh install
[15:57] <Demerzel> linex: yes, definitely possible
[15:58] <Demerzel> linex: that's how i upgraded to 9.10 myself :)
[15:59] <linex> Demerzel: koolbuntoo!
[15:59] <mindar> Hi!
[16:01] <pete_^> mugginz: the corruption was so amusing I had to restart
[16:01] <rork> juacom99: if you installed a nvidia/radeon driver you can try to configure it with that. Else you can try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" to reset the xorg.conf
[16:01] <mindar> Hm, i need help... How can i insert the picture in konsole?
[16:01] <mugginz> pete_^: I thought so.  The delay in posts suggested it :)
[16:01] <pete_^> I tried to get a picture of the tray with ksnapshot then it just went insane
[16:01] <apparle> I am having problem with ATI open source  driver
[16:02] <mugginz> pete_^: Well, this is depressing.  You setup is basically what I was goin to do as a stop gap till I get an Eyefinity card
[16:02] <pete_^> mugginz: It works apart from the system tray
[16:02] <mugginz> I've got a 7600GT I was goin to put with the 98--
[16:02] <pete_^> mugginz: and 2d acceleration isn't great, but if you have a dual/more core cpu it can cope
[16:03] <apparle> I am having problem with ATI open source  driver
[16:04] <pete_^> mugginz: some kind of massive corruption is going on here with pixmaps
[16:04] <rork> apparle: can you define your problem?
[16:04] <pete_^> mugginz: when I move the plasma panel from one screen to another then try to use ksnapshot
[16:05] <apparle> rork: I am typing
[16:05] <mugginz> pete_^: I'm going to try the 7600 in with the 9800 just for laughs
[16:05] <BluesKaj> well folks , it seems sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude safe-upgrade , followed by sudo do-release-upgrade , is now officially correct for upgrading from one distro to the next ..or one can use apt-get if you prefer it to aptitude
[16:05] <pete_^> mugginz: Interesting to hear your results, I've never seen this insane corruption before
[16:05] <mugginz> I've had a bit of practice cajoling the nVidia drivers, I might be able to find a workable soluton
[16:06] <pete_^> mugginz: It's relatively easy these days, you can do it all through the nvidia-settings GUI
[16:06] <mugginz> pete_^:  I'll know more in the next few days, do you hang around here often so I can let you know how I go?
[16:07] <BluesKaj> mugginz, I'm running a 7600gt without any problems
[16:07] <dinu> hi all,.. i have a problem: Can't connect to mobile broadband connection,..  when i connect modem to PC  its found as optical disk, after that i unplug it and its found as moden, i create a new connection called "Orange internet", but when i click  to "Orange Internet" icon, nothing happened. PS: sory for my bad english.
[16:07] <mugginz> BluesKaj: The prob seems to be when its dual cards with xinerama
[16:07] <pete_^> BluesKaj: It works, it's just with Xinerama required for multiple GPUs it's a problem
[16:08] <BluesKaj> oh, xinerama , good luck ! :)
[16:08] <pete_^> I can now randomly click the desktop and get artifacts jumping
[16:08] <pete_^> I liked 190.42 better.
[16:08] <mugginz> pete_^: nVidia party tricks :) Corruption on demand.,
[16:09] <pete_^> mugginz: it would be very interesting if you have this issue too with 185.xx, move the default panel from one screen to another then try to take a region screenshot with ksnapshot
[16:10] <mugginz> pete_^:  Will do.  I'm gunna head off now cause it's 3:10am here in australia.  I'll let you know what I find.
[16:10] <pete_^> mugginz: Ah, fair enough. Good luck with the setup when you get round to it.
[16:11] <apparle> Plz help http://paste.ubuntu.com/307654/
[16:11] <jesus_> alguien habla español??
[16:12] <apparle> rork:  got the problem?
[16:13] <Rodensky> I HATE ditro-upgrade....!! It makes me want to kill myself!!
[16:14] <rork> Rodensky: that's why they made the LTS versions :)
[16:15] <Rodensky> you don't say...
[16:15] <rork> apparle: yes but I don't know a solution
[16:15] <Rodensky> looks like it's the handy work of a pot head
[16:15] <apparle> rork: :)
[16:16] <buckethead> I can't use get new themes on splash screens under system settings... Is anyone else having this problem?
[16:17] <slow-motion> hi
[16:17] <BluesKaj> buckethead, go to kde-look and download them from there , then just open them with ark and they'll show up in system settings
[16:18] <nikitis> Epic fail on kubuntu upgrade....
[16:18] <buckethead> Yeah, thats working.. I was debating if I should file a bug or not, since I think its a munged config file ..somewhere..
[16:18] <Rodensky> only ~700MB downloaded for the past 5 days... every time having some other problem...
[16:19] <BluesKaj> buckethead, there's already a bug report , but it's not getting much attention
[16:19] <Rodensky> it'll be an epic fail if i'll manage to download everything and at the and the system will crash over some missing kernel-whatever-thingy
[16:19] <nikitis> I upgraded from 9.04 to 9.10.  I can no longer save anything into /tmp.  kdm crashes everytime i use a 3d Wine app.  etc.  And like 10 other programs crash when i launch them.
[16:20] <nikitis> brb
[16:20] <nikitis> going to do fresh install
[16:20] <Rodensky> 9.10 = windows?!
[16:20] <nikitis> yup, similar to windows upgrade
[16:20] <nikitis> that's how fail it was for me
[16:21] <nikitis> 8.10 to 9.04 was great
[16:21] <nikitis> anyway, brb
[16:21] <Rodensky> indeed
[16:23] <carmelita> Hello, I'm having some weird problems with kmail under kubuntu 9.10
[16:23] <carmelita> Can sompen please help me?
[16:23] <Rodensky> carmelita: seems like the problem is 9.10 itself :\
[16:23] <carmelita> Rodensky: ???
[16:23] <Rodensky> all hail 9.04
[16:24] <carmelita> Actually I'm happy with 9.10, just one issue that is bathering me a lot!
[16:26] <carmelita> THat I have a lot of E-mails stored locally in my Mail directory, and lots of directories. And when I open Kontact, or kmail it takes like 5-10 min for it to react fast. At the beginning it's just very, very slow, like if it was indexing all the E-Mail, or something like that. Does someone know about this, or a way to correct it?
[16:26] <Rodensky> by far, after what i've read here, you're lucky that 9.10 even boots for you... thank god for that, and pray a lot that it'll stay the same. 9.10 makes people religious. i'm out :\
[16:27] <carpii_> carmelita, have you tried to compress the mailbox ?
[16:27] <carpii_> 'compact' i mean, not compress
[16:28] <carmelita> carpii_: No, Does that help?
[16:28] <carmelita> Will the E-Mail be still avaliable directly?
[16:28] <carpii_> i would image its worth trying
[16:29] <carmelita> carpii_: You are right, but after the compressing, would I be able to access all my E-Mail directly?
[16:29] <ubuntu0000000000> hi
[16:29] <ubuntu0000000000> hello
[16:29] <carpii_> well my understanding of it is, when you delete a message its just marked as deleted
[16:30] <ubuntu0000000000> ?
[16:30] <carpii_> and compact finally purges it, and reduces the size of the mailbox file
[16:30] <carpii_> but maybe you should take a backup of your mail directory if possible
[16:30] <carpii_> before you try
[16:30] <carmelita> carpii_: OK
[16:30] <ubuntu0000000000> hi i want to ask a question
[16:30] <carmelita> I didn't know that
[16:30] <carmelita> carpii_: Thanks a lot!
[16:30] <ubuntu0000000000> i have kubuntu but i want ubuntu
[16:31] <carpii_> no probs, good luck
[16:31] <Pici> ubuntu0000000000: install the ubuntu-desktop package.
[16:31] <ubuntu0000000000> can i have them both?
[16:31] <carpii_> ubuntu0000000000, just install gnome, and optionally remove kde
[16:31] <carpii_> you can run gnome and kde on same machine, yes
[16:31] <carpii_> or ubuntu and kubuntum if you prefer ;)
[16:31] <ubuntu0000000000> carpii_:  yes but it gets heavy :(
[16:31] <carpii_> not really
[16:32] <carpii_> but well, you cant have everything :p
[16:32] <ubuntu0000000000> carpii_:  is there any way not to load all those libraries :(
[16:32] <ubuntu0000000000> only those a certain KDE app needs ;(
[16:32] <carpii_> all kde apps need the core kde libs
[16:32] <ubuntu0000000000> because when i load gnome and kde apps together it needs more time to load an individual KDE app
[16:32] <carpii_> what sort of machine are you using?
[16:33] <carpii_> i run kde, but sometimes use gnome apps, and its not noticeable
[16:33] <ubuntu0000000000> carpii_:  it a core 2 mobile proceessor
[16:33] <carpii_> how much ram?
[16:33] <ubuntu0000000000> carpii_:  on an hp laptop 1GB RAM
[16:33] <carpii_> hm ok
[16:33] <ubuntu0000000000> carpii_:  667 MHz FSB
[16:34] <carpii_> maybe you should pick kde or gnome then, and try to use only apps from those
[16:34] <carpii_> theres no way to stop a kde app loading the kde libs when it runs, because it needs them
[16:34] <carmelita> I just installed 9.10, so far so good only have the issue with kmail.Now I just tried skype and sound doesn't work!! So is with vlc. Does any one know how to solve this?
[16:34] <ubuntu0000000000> carpii_:  thanks i will try fall back with gnome again ... :(
[16:37] <Godel_> s
[16:37] <ubuntu0000000000> carpii_:  how can i remove the kde-desktop in one command
[16:37] <ubuntu0000000000> carpii_:  because ubuntu has ubuntu-desktop but KDE what command?
[16:37] <Godel_> how
[16:37] <Godel_> can i format a drive?
[16:37] <Godel_> a usb drive
[16:38] <raavan> Package manager ask password in gtk?
[16:40] <raavan> Everything seems fine, I even corrected my gtk fonts with the workaround here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-style-qtcurve/+bug/414711 but i think root user still has ugly gtk
[16:40] <apparle> Plz help http://paste.ubuntu.com/307654/
[16:41] <raavan> is there any pure qt package manager?
[16:42] <Godel_> is there a usb format
[16:42] <Godel_> tool
[16:42] <Godel_> on partition manager
[16:42] <Vroomfondle> raavan: Adept?
[16:43] <ubuntu0000000000> bye
[16:44] <apparle> Plz help http://paste.ubuntu.com/307654/
[16:44] <raavan> mansur? are you manzur on launchpad?
[16:45] <Dragnslcr> raavan- KPackageKit is the default manager since 9.04, I think
[16:46] <raavan> kpackagekit uses gtk for password?
[16:47] <apparle> Plz help http://paste.ubuntu.com/307654/
[16:47] <apparle> desperate... plzzzz
[16:48] <Sebaz> Hi all, just installed Kubuntu 9.10 and installed Audacious2 but no sound :( tried ALSA and PULSE and no luck.. OSS does work and I hear music but no controls over the volume etc.. what can I do to make Audacious2 work with Pulse or ALSA?
[16:50] <reto`> Sebaz: does ALSA work with other programs?
[16:51] <Sebaz> reto`: how can I check that?   When I open a mp3 with amarok it plays fine.. but I reject Amarok
[16:52] <raavan> apparle, hav you tried without the PCI setting fresh without any tweaks?
[16:55] <carmelita> Noone knows how to enable sound on skype and vlc under Kubuntu 9.10?
[16:56] <Vroomfondle> "enable"?
[16:56] <Vroomfondle> just worsk for me by default, carmelita
[16:56] <apparle> raavan: you mean the default fresh installtion .... yeah I tried that... but  compositing/effects don't work
[16:56] <Vroomfondle> sounds like you've found a bug
[16:56] <Sebaz> every X.10 build is worse in audio support.. especially with Intel audio cards
[16:56] <apparle> carmelita: does sound work anywhere else
[16:56] <carmelita> Yes it works on all kde apps and the Drago player
[16:57] <carmelita> I mean Dragon
[16:57] <carmelita> And the microphone also works, when I unmute it from kmix
[16:57] <Vroomfondle> I've heard that the coupling between pulseaudio and everything else is a bit broken in kubuntu 9.10, but haven't had any trouble myself
[16:57] <ebovine> carmelita: It's probably also broken on the nonfree flash plugin.
[16:57] <apparle> carmelita: which audio driver.....
[16:58] <carmelita> apparle: How can I identify which audio driver?
[16:58] <Sebaz> Vroomfondle: I think you are right.. almost nothing works default with audio
[16:58] <apparle> carmelita: does it work by default everywhere else
[16:58] <apparle> How to force the graphics to be detected as PCI only
[16:59] <carmelita> apparle: by default works under all kde apps and under Dragon Player
[16:59] <apparle> carmelita: try selecting the OSS driver in VLC
[16:59] <carmelita> apparle: I just tried the flash plugin under firefox and the sound doesn't work there neither
[17:00] <nikitis> Question.  I'm in the live session of kubuntu disk now.  I have a LVM spread across /dev/sdb3 and /dev/sdc1.  How do i go about mounting it in the live session?  I need to delete some users before i go about fresh installing.
[17:00] <raavan> apparle, you saw this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonXpress
[17:00] <apparle> carmelita: 9.10 or 9.04
[17:01] <ebovine> carmelita: You can figure out which audio driver you're using in the System Settings -> Multimedia dialog
[17:01] <carmelita> apparle: 9.10
[17:01] <apparle> raavan: it says 8.10 onwards work out of box
[17:02] <apparle> carmelita: Try removing pulseaudio
[17:02] <carmelita> apparle: ALC883
[17:03] <apparle> carmelita: I know its ALC883
[17:03] <carmelita> Is pulse audio installed by default on Kubuntu 9.10? Because I read skype 2.1 uses pulseaudio
[17:03] <carmelita> apparle: Is pulse audio installed by default on Kubuntu 9.10? Because I read skype 2.1 uses pulseaudio
[17:03] <carmelita> apparle: how do I remove pulseaudio without damaging anything else?
[17:03] <apparle> !info pulseaudio
[17:04] <apparle> carmelita: Acutally I don't know.....
[17:04] <carmelita> apparle: I didn't install pulseaudio
[17:04] <apparle> carmelita: reinstall it later
[17:04] <carmelita> But it appears there System Settings -> Multimedia dialog as the last option
[17:04] <ebovine> carmelita: Just remove it like any other package.
[17:05] <apparle> carmelita: but see if anyother package is not getting removed with it
[17:05] <carmelita> apparle: pulseaudio is not installed
[17:05] <carmelita> apparle: I just confirmed it
[17:05] <carmelita> ebovine: pulseaudio was never installed in my system
[17:06] <ebovine> I just found the same thing on my 9.10.
[17:06] <apparle> carmelita: then install it :)
[17:07] <apparle> carmelita: as you yourself said it is required to run skype
[17:07] <carmelita> apparle: hahahaha, are you sure?
[17:07] <apparle> carmelita: and did you try selecting OSS driver in VLC
[17:07] <carmelita> apparle: I didn't, I said I read that skype 2.1 supports it
[17:07] <carmelita> apparle: Yes and with no success
[17:08] <BluesKaj> there is a skype alternative that doesn't need pulseaudio , it's the staic version, skype_static-2.1.0.47
[17:09] <BluesKaj> static
[17:09] <carmelita> Wow, I thought I had learned a lot of linux in the past year using it, but I really wouldn't be able to do much without people like you helping me! Thanks all!! ;-)
[17:09] <carmelita> BluesKaj: So the normal skype really needs pulseaudio?
[17:09] <BluesKaj> well the karmic default skype , yes
[17:10] <carmelita> BluesKaj: Yes, that's waht I meant sorry
[17:10] <BluesKaj> akfaik , carmelita , there may have been changes since I tried it amonth ago
[17:16] <apparle> Plz help http://paste.ubuntu.com/307654/
[17:22] <dthacker> klibido looks like it's unmaintained.  Recommendations for KDE4 Usenet file grabber?
[17:24] <jhutchins_lt> dthacker: pan works.
[17:27] <soheyl> Hey
[17:28] <Godel_> hello
[17:28] <Godel_> how can i download the latest wine?
[17:37] <BluesKaj> !wine | Godel_
[17:45] <BenPA> help day3 .... due to grub or grub 2 could not complete install of 9.10 from 9.04 ... have tried various google and this irc channel suggestions ... can anyone help to get to terminal to maybe fix issue . have 9.10 and 9.04 disk but will not run ... using knoppix to connect here
[17:47] <Peace--> software to manage ipode on kubuntu
[17:47] <Peace--> that insn't gtkpod
[17:47] <MBSTO> o/
[17:52] <Tuxkowo> Hi everyone !
[17:54] <Tuxkowo> Hi everyone !
[17:55] <Octy92> hello
[17:56] <Octy92> anyone has an ipod (the apple one)? how can i sync it?
[17:56] <Peace--> me no xD
[17:58] <Peace--> Octy92: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Transfer+to+Media+Device+(formerly+iPod)?content=26850
[17:58] <Peace--> Octy92: you have to install amarok 1.4
[17:59] <Octy92> o.O
[17:59] <Peace--> amarok 1.4 nicer than 2.2
[17:59] <Peace--> amarok 2.x series is not a complete software
[18:00] <Octy92> hmm... i'll try with default amarok 2.x before, thanks :)
[18:00] <Peace--> ogghei
[18:00] <Tuxkowo> I installed the new Kubuntu 9.10, but Plasma crash each time it is launched. (I could use it for around 20 minutes) This problem isn't new for me and it happened to on Kubuntu 9.04. Is someone knows what happens ? I can give crash log and other informations.
[18:03] <Peace--> here on kubuntu 9.10 never seen a crash
[18:03] <Peace--> Tuxkowo:
[18:03] <Peace--> have you upgraded
[18:03] <Peace--> or formated and installed?
[18:03] <raziel> please i need help ! i install ubuntu in another partition drive and i cant see my windows 7 in boot
[18:04] <Peace--> raziel: mm if ytou have installed ubuntu go on #ubuntu
[18:04] <Peace--> here it's for kubuntu
[18:04] <raziel> i mean kubuntu
[18:04] <Peace--> !grub| raziel
[18:04] <BenPA> help day3 .... due to grub or grub 2 could not complete install of 9.10 from 9.04 ... have tried various google and this irc channel suggestions ... can anyone help to get to terminal to maybe fix issue . have 9.10 and 9.04 disk but will not run ... using knoppix to connect here  ... pleasee
[18:04] <Tuxkowo> Peace--: I installed a new system from the alt. CD. I formated my / part. but I kept my /home. I used Gnome before, so I don't have previous config files
[18:05] <Peace--> Tuxkowo: bad thing
[18:05] <Peace--> Tuxkowo: when you upgrade or you keep /home you should create a new user
[18:05] <Peace--> ah
[18:05] <Peace--> ok
[18:05] <Peace--> you used gnome
[18:05] <raziel> ubuto : right now i have grub
[18:05] <properz> ubuto : right now i have grub
[18:05] <Peace--> Tuxkowo: anyway try to create a new user
[18:06] <Tuxkowo> Ok
[18:06] <properz> how i can get in boot windows 7 and kubuntu both ?
[18:06] <Peace--> properz: you have to fix grub
[18:07] <properz> how?
[18:07] <Peace--> thre is on wiki
[18:07] <properz> how i install rpm file ?
[18:08] <Tuxkowo> properz: you need to use alien
[18:08] <Peace--> you can't use rpm file on debina
[18:08] <Peace--> you can only pray if alien converts it on deb
[18:08] <properz> i just want install xchat
[18:09] <properz> and get my windows 7 back :(
[18:09] <Peace--> sudo apt-get install xchat
[18:09] <Peace--> that's all
[18:10] <Tuxkowo> Peace--: I'll try to start a new graphical session. Err... Is there a way to quit KDE nicely without Plasma ?
[18:12] <raziel> anyone can help me to fix my grub ? ( to get my windows 7 too in grub ) thanks
[18:12] <Peace--> raziel: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[18:13] <Peace--> Tuxkowo: yes
[18:13] <Peace--> or maybe no
[18:13] <Peace--> what do you mean without plasma
[18:13] <raziel> peace : its not help me..
[18:13] <raziel> i dont need to read all for just add windows 7
[18:14] <Tuxkowo> Peace--: avoid doing a control + alt + backspace
[18:14] <Peace--> raziel: on linux there is a rule
[18:14] <Peace--> raziel: read the damned manual
[18:15] <raziel> PEace : buy my english is not very good to understand it
[18:15] <Peace--> if you want solve your problem you can stay here without hope
[18:15] <Peace--> raziel: which language?
[18:15] <Peace--> raziel: there is a channel for every language
[18:15] <raziel> hebrew
[18:15] <Peace--> raziel: i figured out from your name
[18:15] <Peace--> !hebrew
[18:16] <white_pelican> shalom aleichem
[18:16] <white_pelican> :)
[18:16] <raziel> lol
[18:16] <kexman> wtf ???
[18:16] <kexman> my putty title changed to something veeeery ... pfff korean ? :)))
[18:16] <Peace--> raziel: my name is hebrew and it means the heart of god xD
[18:16] <kexman> hmm weir ... now its back .... strange things happen :)
[18:16] <raziel> PEace : no one in the hebrew room
[18:17] <Peace--> omg
[18:17] <Peace--> there are few people but there are
[18:17] <raziel> !grub
[18:19] <raziel> Peace : i can remove grub and use the regular ? [ the normal dualboot]
[18:19] <Peace--> raziel: mm i don't know
[18:19] <white_pelican> you need either grup or lilo
[18:19] <white_pelican> grub*
[18:20] <Peace--> he means grub 1 instead of this sick grub2
[18:21] <raziel> PEace : he dont help me he dont know
[18:21] <Peace--> xD
[18:21] <Peace--> raziel: have you tried here http://ubuntu-il.com/site/
[18:21] <raziel> all the israel peppols noob
[18:21] <dbjoker> hey! Have anybody installed kubuntu on your netbook?
[18:21] <Peace--> raziel: it's in your language try to find out documenation
[18:21] <raziel> noobs
[18:21] <Peace--> raziel: mm i don't think so
[18:21] <raziel> i can manage the room
[18:23] <BenPA> can anyone help me with my computer not booting into new upgrade ... grub issue
[18:24] <Peace--> raziel: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[18:24] <Peace--> sorry
[18:24] <Peace--> BenPA:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[18:24] <BenPA> Peace: tried that didnt work
[18:24] <Peace--> ah omg this sick grub2
[18:24] <BenPA> Peace: I can't get to terninal
[18:24] <Peace--> BenPA: try with a live cd
[18:25] <dbjoker> who can help me: i had install kubuntu 9.10 netbook edition on samsung nc 10, but is's works very slow, maybe i need to install some drivers?
[18:25] <Peace--> dbjoker: it's a video card problem ...drivers
[18:25] <seb0> nabcam bu ubuntuyu yahu
[18:25] <BenPA> Peace: I am using knoppix now ... my kubuntu 9.10 and or 9.04 will not install .. but will on another machine
[18:26] <seb0> ekran kartini takinca u.uyor
 how to solve this problem?
[18:27] <Peace--> dbjoker: ati nvdia?
[18:27] <Peace--> BenPA: you have to fix grub? so use a live cd to edit the file
[18:29] <BenPA> Peace: I cannot get to a termial/console that is working .... I am using knoppix cd now but not sure of how to get to the point where I can install/update grub or grub2
[18:30] <seb0> ubuntucular yardim
[18:30] <raziel> if anyone understand in GRUB and can help me in private its good thanks
[18:30] <Peace--> raziel: i have found this http://erickoo.wordpress.com/2009/06/14/how-to-add-vista-partition-to-grub-2-ubuntu-9-10-karmic-koala/
[18:31] <Peace--> !intel
[18:32] <Peace--> dbjoker:  maybe you can get some finormatio in those page , even if there are for 9.04
[18:32] <seb0> onboart la kurulum yaptim ekran katini takinca ubuntu a.ilmiyor yahu yardim edecek k'mse yokmu bu kanalda
[18:32] <Peace--> seb0: english
[18:32] <seb0> 'ng'l'zce b'lm'yorum
[18:33] <postfuturist> anyone know why Kubuntu doesn't seem to discover Windows shares from the WORKGROUP it's part of?
[18:33] <Peace--> postfuturist: for samba?
[18:33] <Peace--> have you made correctly your config file?
[18:33] <postfuturist> Peace--: yeah.
[18:33] <postfuturist> Peace--: both
[18:33] <seb0> yokmu yardim bu kanalda
[18:34] <Peace--> postfuturist: i have made with success samba with windows using this http://nowardev.wordpress.com/2009/05/05/kubuntu-904-windows-share-with-samba/
[18:34] <postfuturist> Peace--: Thanks, I'll check it out.
[18:36] <Peace--> seb0: english or change channel
[18:36] <Peace--> !english | seb0
[18:37] <BluesKaj> !tk | seb0
[18:37] <seb0> ne d'yon yahu
[18:37] <BluesKaj> !ty | seb0
[18:37] <seb0> b' anlasam
[18:38] <BluesKaj> !tr | seb0
[18:38] <seb0> orda yardimci olamadilar yahu
[18:38] <seb0> ubottu senm' yardim etcen
[18:40] <postfuturist> Peace--: Worked like a charm, I think I needed to create a samba account.
[18:40] <BenPA> Peace: how do apt-get to the hard drive if I ever get it mounted?
[18:40] <Peace--> postfuturist: heheh that blog is mine :)
[18:41] <postfuturist> Peace--: ha! Thanks for the help :)
[18:41] <seb0> bak yardim etmezsen'z kulanmiyacam bu s'stem'
[18:41] <neoandersen_> Help, I lost my X environment upgrading to 9.10 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8224674#post8224674
[18:41] <kotelo> hi guys, i have a very interesting question for you ;D
[18:41] <kotelo> how many Gigabytes I need to install kubuntu 9.10?
[18:41] <seb0>  nasilbi sitem yaiyorlaryahu
[18:42] <seb0> ekran kartiyla calismiyor yahu
[18:42] <kotelo> someone?
[18:42] <kotelo> :(
[18:43] <kotelo> again
[18:43] <kotelo> hi guys, i have a very interesting question for you ;D
[18:43] <BluesKaj> neoandersen_, what graphics card do you use?
[18:43] <kotelo> how many Gigabytes I need to install kubuntu 9.10?
[18:43] <FloodBotK1> kotelo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:43] <neoandersen_> nvidia
[18:43] <kotelo> oh shutup bot
[18:43] <kotelo> xD
[18:44] <alfonso> I upgraded to 9.1 from 9.04 - spent yesterday downgrading again - the upgrade went so badly i couldn't boot the system past GRUB
[18:44] <BluesKaj> kotelo, depends on what apps you are using and storage requirements for media etc
[18:44] <ubuntu> i am having some problem with kubuntu installation
[18:45] <kotelo> well, a normal installation
[18:45] <ubuntu> can any one help me ?
[18:45] <alfonso> Anyone else had a bad experience with the automatic downloaded upgrade?
[18:45] <BluesKaj> alfonso, install grub2 before upgrading karmic
[18:45] <kotelo> i will use another partition for storage videos, music, etc
[18:45] <ubuntu> it says no root file system defined
[18:45] <alfonso> Thanks Blueska but I think, having finally got 9.04 working and stable again, I'll just stick with it :)
[18:45] <ubuntu> ??
[18:45] <ebovine> Anyone else having issues with apache2 not reading their sites-enabled directory at boot, but it does just fine if they restart apache?
[18:45] <BluesKaj> 3G should be fine ,kotelo
[18:46] <kotelo> nice
[18:46] <seb0> t]rkce bilen yokmu burda yahu yarimciolcak
[18:46] <BluesKaj> alfonso, ok , if you decide in the future to upgrade , remember my tip
[18:48] <kotelo> thanks for the help guys
[18:48] <kotelo> cya ;D
[18:48] <neoandersen_> BluesKaj, nvidia
[18:49] <Tuxkowo> Peace--: Well... with my second account everything works well. I deleted all plasma related config files, and it seems to work with my 1st user. I'll install openbox to prevent another problem (and keep using my computer)
[18:49] <Tuxkowo> Thanks for your help
[18:50] <raziel> where is the terminal in kubuntu ?
[18:50] <Peace--> Tuxkowo: np
[18:50] <BluesKaj> neoandersen_, lspci | grep VGA
[18:50] <Peace--> raziel:  ALT F2  type konsole
[18:50] <EagleScreen> raziel: Applications -> System -> Terminal
[18:55] <seb0> kimse yardim etmiyor yahu
[18:55] <rork> !en seb0
[18:55] <rork> !en | seb0
[18:56] <seb0> ayniseyleri tekrarliyorlar yahu
[18:56] <Pici> !tr | seb0
[18:57] <seb0> anladim yahu cevirimi yapiyorsun sen yahu
[18:57] <BluesKaj> we already tried that Pici , he doesn't seem to get it.
[18:57] <seb0> baska sey bilmiyormusun
[18:57] <jamesjedimaster> magyar?
[18:58] <lukefeil> n'abend
[18:58] <Pici> seb0: tÃ¼r /join #ubuntu-tr
[18:58] <seb0> yardim edemiyorlar orda
[18:58] <BluesKaj> he's in turkey forsure
[18:58] <rork> ubuntu having connection problems?
[18:58] <lukefeil> ist es möglich für die verschiedenen desktops verschiedene wallpaper zu haben, ABER die selben plasmoids?
[18:58] <jamesjedimaster> hungarian maybe?
[18:59] <Pici> !de | lukefeil
[18:59] <ubuntu> hi. can any one help me with installtion ok kubuntu
[18:59] <ubuntu> ?
[18:59] <Pici> stka_:
[18:59] <Pici> Bu kanal sadece Ä°ngilizce. LÃ¼tfen iÃ§in # ubuntu-tr kullanÄ±mÄ± tÃ¼rkÃ§e
[18:59] <Peace--> ubuntu: ?
[18:59] <Pici> seb0: ^
[18:59] <lukefeil> Pici: sorry, wrong chanel
[18:59] <seb0> ne
[18:59] <Peace--> ask and don't ask to ask ubuntu
[18:59] <seb0> d'yon
[18:59] <ubuntu> kubuntu installtion ??
[19:00] <ahmedtaufiq> kubuntu installation ?
[19:00] <lukefeil> is it possible to chose different wallpapers for the different desktops BUT with the same plasmoids
[19:00] <Peace--> ahmedtaufiq: what's the problem with kubuntu installation
[19:00] <ahmedtaufiq> it says that no root file system selected
[19:00] <rork> ahmedtaufiq: if you came to choose a partition you need one formatted as ext3 or ext4 and mounted to /
[19:01] <ahmedtaufiq> mounted to dos or windows?
[19:01] <seb0> d'd'yorum s'z'n yardim etceginiz yok
[19:01] <Pici> 22
[19:01] <ahmedtaufiq> i have my partition named as "D" under WIndows OS
[19:01] <lukefeil> ahmedtaufiq: you have to name the mountpoint "/"
[19:01] <ahmedtaufiq> i want to use that partition
[19:02] <Godel_> libcurl-gnutls.so.4
[19:02] <Godel_> where can i get this from
[19:02] <ahmedtaufiq> but during installation it displays some other names
[19:02] <ahmedtaufiq> ??
[19:02] <lukefeil> ahmedtaufiq: yes he calls them sda1...3 or hda1..3
[19:03] <ahmedtaufiq> it displays sda1 and then jumps to sda5 , 6 , 7 , 8
[19:03] <idyle> hey why didn't my kubuntu automatically fix my time?
[19:03] <tiresias> hello all
[19:03] <ahmedtaufiq> so sda 5 might be "D" dirve ?
[19:04] <lukefeil> ahmedtaufiq:do you have already multipel OS installed?
[19:04] <otavio> buenas
[19:04] <ahmedtaufiq> only wondows installed
[19:04] <ahmedtaufiq> *windows
[19:04] <lukefeil> ahmedtaufiq: and how many partitions?
[19:04] <ahmedtaufiq> 4 partitions
[19:04] <ahmedtaufiq> on "c" i have got windows
[19:04] <ahmedtaufiq> "'d" is free
[19:05] <ahmedtaufiq> i want to install kubuntu on d drive
[19:05] <lukefeil> ahmedtaufiq:do the partitions d,e,f have differnt sizes?
[19:05] <ahmedtaufiq> no all four are of same size
[19:06] <ahmedtaufiq> so what shd i chose ? sda 5 ?
[19:06] <lukefeil> ahmedtaufiq: cause i'm not shure it's better to proof
[19:06] <oDuda> i wanna change the first  graphic screen when booting kubuntu. the screen before the login
[19:06] <lukefeil> ahmedtaufiq: open the different partitions in the livesystem
[19:07] <ahmedtaufiq> ok then
[19:07] <lukefeil> ahmedtaufiq: and remember the good partition...
[19:07] <ahmedtaufiq> "good partition "'?
[19:07] <lukefeil> ahmedtaufiq: the "D"
[19:08] <ahmedtaufiq> ok
[19:08] <ahmedtaufiq> then ??
[19:08] <lukefeil> ahmedtaufiq: when you open Dolphin in the ilvesystem, youcan chose in the sidebar the different partitions
[19:08] <ahmedtaufiq> yes
[19:09] <ahmedtaufiq> it says "volume vfat"
[19:09] <ahmedtaufiq> then lukefeil ??
[19:10] <lukefeil> ahmedtaufiq:hmm..
[19:10] <ahmedtaufiq> i have opened the d dirve
[19:10] <ahmedtaufiq> under dolphin
[19:10] <lukefeil> ahmedtaufiq:i'm thinking
[19:11] <lukefeil> ahmedtaufiq: k
[19:12] <lukefeil> ahmedtaufiq: you open an terminal
[19:12] <ahmedtaufiq> yes opened
[19:12] <lukefeil> ahmedtaufiq: and you "unmount" all other partitions in dolphin (right_click > unmount)
[19:13] <lukefeil> ahmedtaufiq: so only the "D" partition is mounted, then you enter 'mount -l' in your terminal
[19:13] <ahmedtaufiq> wait
[19:13] <ahmedtaufiq> from where to unmount?
[19:13] <ahmedtaufiq> i have opened terminal
[19:13] <ahmedtaufiq> then what shound i type there?
[19:14] <lukefeil> mount -l | grep sda
[19:14] <lukefeil> he should answer with only one line
[19:14] <second_nick> Hi guys
[19:15] <second_nick> i have a problem
[19:15] <ahmedtaufiq> coomand not found
[19:15] <Problem> when i log in kubuntu i get a konsole and nothing else
[19:15] <Problem> how can i fix  it
[19:15] <lukefeil> ahmedtaufiq: copy&paste the command
[19:16] <lukefeil> ahmedtaufiq: there is the special caracter | it's not an small L
[19:16] <ahmedtaufiq> ok
[19:16] <ahmedtaufiq> let me try
[19:16] <ahmedtaufiq> done
[19:17] <ahmedtaufiq> i have entered both the commands
[19:17] <lukefeil> ahmedtaufiq: what is he answering?
[19:18] <ahmedtaufiq> long list came in
[19:19] <lukefeil> !past | ahmedtaufiq
[19:19] <lukefeil> !paste | ahmedtaufiq
[19:19] <ahmedtaufiq> what shd i do now?
[19:19] <lukefeil> ahmedtaufiq: there you can post the output
[19:20] <ahmedtaufiq> To run a command as administrator (user "root"), use "sudo <command>".
[19:20] <ahmedtaufiq> See "man sudo_root" for details.
[19:20] <ahmedtaufiq> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ mount -l | grep sda
[19:20] <ahmedtaufiq> /dev/sda7 on /media/disk type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal,uid=999,utf8,shortname=mixed,flush)
[19:20] <ahmedtaufiq> /dev/sda5 on /media/disk-1 type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal,uid=999,utf8,shortname=mixed,flush)
[19:20] <FloodBotK2> ahmedtaufiq: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:20] <ahmedtaufiq> /dev/sda6 on /media/disk-2 type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal,uid=999,utf8,shortname=mixed,flush)
[19:21] <lukefeil> ahmedtaufiq: you hav eto unmount the other partiotions in dolphin
[19:21] <rolf__> hi there
[19:21] <oDuda> i wanna change the first  graphic screen when booting kubuntu. the screen before the login
[19:21] <oDuda> (not that animate)
[19:21] <ahmedtaufiq> i better dont use it
[19:22] <lukefeil> ahmedtaufiq: you right click on the unwanted partitions and select "unmount"
[19:22] <lukefeil> ahmedtaufiq:after that you retrie the command
[19:22] <ahmedtaufiq> i have unmounted all the other partitions
[19:23] <ahmedtaufiq> only d and cd druve is there
[19:23] <ahmedtaufiq> *cd drive
[19:23] <lukefeil> ahmedtaufiq: he  says that 3 partitions are mounted...
[19:24] <ahmedtaufiq> i have again done it
[19:24] <ahmedtaufiq> now how to check it ?
[19:24] <Problem> GUYS
[19:24] <ZeroKelvin> hello
[19:24] <Problem> WHEN I LOG INTO KUBUNTU I ONLY GET A KONSOLE AND NOTHING ELSE
[19:25] <ZeroKelvin> does java work in kubuntu? i tried to use the sofware "jdownloader" and kwin gone crazy
[19:25] <lukefeil> ahmedtaufiq: when you left-click on a partition he auto-remount, so dont click left on a partition after unmounting
[19:25] <Dragnslcr> !info sun-java-jre6 | ZeroKelvin
[19:25] <Dragnslcr> !info sun-java6-jre | ZeroKelvin
[19:26] <Dragnslcr> I think that's the package you want to install
[19:26] <ahmedtaufiq> To run a command as administrator (user "root"), use "sudo <command>".
[19:26] <ahmedtaufiq> See "man sudo_root" for details.
[19:26] <ahmedtaufiq> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ mount -l
[19:26] <ahmedtaufiq> aufs on / type aufs (rw)
[19:26] <ahmedtaufiq> none on /proc type proc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
[19:26] <FloodBotK2> ahmedtaufiq: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:26] <ahmedtaufiq> none on /sys type sysfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
[19:26] <ZeroKelvin> i installed it from kpackage, the software is installed but i , with x64 version, have this problem, and another user with x32 the same
[19:27] <ZeroKelvin> i installed the java default package, maybe another words better?
[19:27] <lukefeil> ahmedtaufiq: now he say that no partition is mounted, now mount only the partition "D"
[19:27] <ahmedtaufiq> only d is mounted dear
[19:28] <somekool> hmm... I run Kubuntu and KDE.... but I have gnome installed. since I upgraded to 9.10. "svn up" is asking my my GNOME keyring password. but I dont use the GNOME keyring. how do I disable this ?
[19:28] <ahmedtaufiq> its mind boggling
[19:28] <lukefeil> so maybe you have'nt postet the entire output but in your listing ist no more /dev/sdaX
[19:29] <lukefeil> ahmedtaufiq: and please use the pastebin service to poste more than a line
[19:29] <ZeroKelvin> another question, is it normal that some days after release there are no package actualizations yet? i remember that with normal ubuntu in one-two days i had to install around 200 Mb...
[19:30] <ZeroKelvin> it's the first time i'm using Kbuntu instead normal ubuntu...
[19:30] <ahmedtaufiq> thanks for ur help
[19:30] <ahmedtaufiq> sda5 is drive d, duh
[19:34] <n16h7f0x> i got a sony vaio ns21z with 4g ram and installed kubuntu 9.10, but on system monitor it only appera 3gb of ram...why is that? can anybody advice?
[19:36] <jad_> ZeroKelvin: Welcome to Kubuntu!
[19:36] <jad_> n16h7f0x: You have the 32 bit version of Kubuntu
[19:37] <n16h7f0x> jad_, should i install 64bit one or what?
[19:38] <jad_> n16h7f0x: yep then you can get a few terrabytes of RAM
[19:39] <n16h7f0x> jad_, but i got and intel core 2duo P8600 2.4ghz isn't this a 32 bit proccesor?
[19:39] <jad_> I doubt it
[19:39] <n16h7f0x> jad_, how can i find out that?
[19:39] <ZeroKelvin> n16h7f0x: every core 2 duo has x64 capabilites....
[19:39] <ZeroKelvin> (of course also x32)
[19:40] <jad_> n16h7f0x: http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=35568 Ask Intel
[19:40] <n16h7f0x> ZeroKelvin, so should work better on x64 or on x32?
[19:40] <ebovine> 32 is more tested.
[19:40] <ZeroKelvin> n16h7f0x: i have being using x64 ubuntu's with no important problem
[19:40] <jad_> n16h7f0x: Functionally shouldn't make a difference other than closed source software
[19:41] <ZeroKelvin> only flash, wich is a x32 only and sometimes malfunction in a 64 version
[19:41] <n16h7f0x> so won't be abble to see any speed difference (like 64 runs slower)
[19:41] <ZeroKelvin> slower?¿ it should be faster!
[19:41] <n16h7f0x> ZeroKelvin, flash what? flashplayer?
[19:41] <ZeroKelvin> yes, flashplayer
[19:41] <n16h7f0x> oh i see
[19:41] <n16h7f0x> ZeroKelvin, jad_ , thank you very much for your assitance
[19:42] <n16h7f0x> downloading x64 edition now
[19:42] <n16h7f0x> :p
[19:42] <ZeroKelvin> it korks, but sometimes gone black and i have to reload the webpage
[19:42] <ZeroKelvin> works, sorry
[19:42] <n16h7f0x> i had some flash problem on 9.04
[19:42] <ZeroKelvin> x32 version?
[19:43] <n16h7f0x> ye
[19:43] <jad_> ZeroKelvin: Yes but that situation can happen for any closed source software
[19:43] <n16h7f0x> the sounds goes crazy
[19:43] <n16h7f0x> after 2 hours of firefox uptime
[19:43] <ZeroKelvin> jad_: yes, adobe should do a x64 version
[19:43] <jad_> ZeroKelvin: Well if Skype decides to stop making a 64bit skype then that would cause problems as well
[19:44] <ZeroKelvin> mm i don't use skype but i remember there are some alternatives... but with flash there are non completely functional yet
[19:46] <n16h7f0x> ZeroKelvin, can i use 32 bit application on a 64 sistem
[19:46] <n16h7f0x> rite
[19:46] <n16h7f0x> ?
[19:46] <jad_> Yeah :-) The point is if it's closed then it can cause problems since if they decide to stop doing say Drivers in 64 bit then you just can't do anything about it
[19:47] <jad_> n16h7f0x: Yes but it's funky
[19:47] <n16h7f0x> funky?
[19:48] <jad_> Yes depending on the app you may have to do a chroot
[19:49] <jad_> But for the most part if you are using Free and Open Software then you can do 64 bit just fine
[19:49] <slawek__> .topic
[19:51] <ZeroKelvin> n16h7f0x: most applications have x64 version
[19:52] <Problem> GUYS HELP. WHEN I TRY TO LOG INTO KUBUNTU I ONLY GET A KONSOLE IN THE UPPER LEFT CORNER
[19:53] <BlueEagle> problem: Also your caps lock is on.
[19:54] <BlueEagle> problem: On the login window there is a button at the left of and below the prompt where you enter the password. Here you can choose sessions. Are you set to start the "Failsafe" one?
[19:54] <Problem> no
[19:54] <Problem> i choose the default
[19:54] <BlueEagle> Are you able to choose KDE there?
[19:54] <Problem> no
[19:55] <Problem> default or failsafe
[19:55] <BlueEagle> Have you installed a server-distribution?
[19:55] <Problem> no
[19:55] <Problem> i have the desktop distro
[19:55] <BlueEagle> Let me check...
[19:56] <Problem> which worked days until something happened now
[19:56] <Problem> and when i log on i get a terminal in the upperleft corner
[19:57] <second_nick> hi
[19:57] <BlueEagle> what happens if you attempt to run "startkde"?
[19:57] <Problem> any idea?
[19:57] <Problem> wait
[19:58] <Problem> the program startkde
[19:58] <Problem> is not installed
[19:58] <BlueEagle> Orly!
[19:58] <BlueEagle> sudo apt-get install kde-desktop
[19:59] <Problem> it says to type
[19:59] <BlueEagle> make that kubuntu-desktop
[19:59] <Problem> sudo apt-get install kdebase-workspace-bin
[19:59] <BlueEagle> I always mix those two up.
[19:59] <BlueEagle> Install kubuntu-desktop That should put you straight.
[19:59] <Problem> but what happened
[19:59] <Problem> i removed notthing
[20:00] <BlueEagle> Apperantly something has been removed.
[20:00] <Problem> the command to start kde
[20:00] <Problem> is startkde?
[20:00] <BlueEagle> !startkde
[20:00] <BlueEagle> !info startkde
[20:00] <BlueEagle> It is.
[20:00] <BlueEagle> However the bot is stupid. :p
[20:01] <tsimpson> no, it's not
[20:01] <tsimpson> you aren't using it right :)
[20:01] <tsimpson> !find startkde
[20:01] <Problem> so its right
[20:01] <Problem> this is the package it tells me to get
[20:01] <jad_> BlueEagle: It's not a package it's part of the kdeworkspace package :)
[20:01] <n16h7f0x> one more question if i isntall vmware workstation last update will i have 3d capabilities on client system? if on host runs ok?
[20:01] <BlueEagle> tsimpson: Well, it's definetly not intelligent, because if it was then it should have run !find when !info did not yeld any results.
[20:01] <Problem> not kubuntu desktop
[20:01] <jad_> Problem: You need kubuntu-desktop
[20:02] <tsimpson> BlueEagle: that's not how it's designed
[20:02] <tsimpson> find and info are different for a reason
[20:02] <jad_> well need is a strong statement but if you would like to login to KDE it's highly recommended :)
[20:02] <BlueEagle> tsimpson: And therfore it's stupid. ;)
[20:02] <tsimpson> different from how you want it != stupid
[20:02] <tsimpson> just "different" :)
[20:03] <BlueEagle> tsimpson: Now you're just being stupid. :p hehehe
[20:03] <Problem> so install kubuntu-desktop?
[20:03] <BlueEagle> problem: That should alleviate the problem.
[20:03] <tsimpson> BlueEagle: and proud of it! ;)
[20:03] <BlueEagle> tsimpson: Good stuff.
[20:05] <Problem> what happened
[20:05] <Problem> the last thing i did was trying to download some packages
[20:05] <Problem> then i closed the terminal
[20:05] <Problem> which wouldnt launch again
[20:05] <Problem> and when i restarted i got this
[20:08] <BlueEagle> Is it just me that thinks knowing which packages he downloaded would be helpful?
[20:08] <Problemo> it says
[20:08] <Problemo> it cant fetch some files
[20:09] <BlueEagle> problemo: Does it litterally say "some files" or does it list those files and give a reason for not being able to fetch them?
[20:09] <BlueEagle> !pastebin
[20:10] <neoandersen> Unksi: lspci | grep VGA nVidia Corpotation G71 [GeForce 7950 GT]
[20:11] <jad_> I think problemo has sucessfulyl removed all the packages he's using and has just bombed out the desktop
[20:11] <ZeroKelvin> byes
[20:11] <jad_> Hopefully irssi is installed
[20:12] <Problem> could not resolve
[20:12] <Problem> and servers name
[20:12] <jad_> Problem: Hoooray :)
[20:12] <Problem> what does this mean
[20:12] <jad_> Ok do you have irssi
[20:12] <Problem> cant connect to the internet?
[20:13] <jad_> It seems you are removing more and more packages somehow
[20:13] <jad_> Problem: Correct
[20:13] <Problem> i connect using wifi
[20:13] <Problem> how can i see if i am connected and to what network
[20:14] <Problem> (by the way i have the dvd-disc i used to install kubunu, maybe i can repair it with this?)
[20:15] <jad_> Problem: You can
[20:15] <jad_> !cdrom
[20:15] <jad_> stupid bot :)
[20:15] <Problem> !livecd
[20:15] <jad_> use apt-cdrom to add it to your sources
[20:16] <neoandersen> Help : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8225449#post8225449
[20:16] <Problem> jad_ ok
[20:16] <Problem> but lets try first to connect to my wifi. whats the command to check where i am connected and then connect?
[20:17] <jad_> iwconfig scan
[20:18] <Problem> doesnt work
[20:19] <BlueEagle> problem: how does it not work?
[20:19] <jad_> neoandersen: I don't understand that links to a solution ?
[20:19] <BlueEagle> problem: ...and which packages were you attempting to download before your distro broke?
[20:20] <Problem> iwconfig scan, it says scan no such device
[20:20] <Problem> the command is wrong apparently
[20:20] <BlueEagle> problem: It would rather appear that no drivers are loaded for your driver.
[20:20] <kexman> pfff
[20:20] <BlueEagle> problem: Did you start in safe mode?
[20:20] <kexman> run into difficulties with kubuntu
[20:20] <kexman> i dont know if it was something with flash or not but now i cant install anything
[20:20] <kexman> i mean nothing :)
[20:20] <neoandersen> jad_: can I paste all here?
[20:21] <BluesKaj> neoandersen, that command was to find your exact graphics card, not solve yor problem
[20:21] <jad_> !paste | neoandersen
[20:21] <Problem> BlueEagle: no
[20:21] <BlueEagle> problem: ...and again, which packages were you attempting to install before your system broke?
[20:22] <Problem> BlueEagle the login screen was normal , when i tried to type me name and pass i got a console. btw in sessions i can only see failsafe and default
[20:22] <kexman> how do i enable XMDCP by default in kubuntu ?
[20:22] <BlueEagle> problem: No, BEFORE that.
[20:22] <BluesKaj> neoandersen, we need to know your graphics card driver so you can install it to get your X and desktop up and running
[20:22] <BlueEagle> quote: 21:05 < Problem> the last thing i did was trying to download some packages
[20:23] <BlueEagle> problem: Which packages were you downloading?
[20:23] <BluesKaj> I'm not BlueEagle
[20:23] <BlueEagle> I'm not blueskaj
[20:23] <Uther> boa tarde
[20:24] <neoandersen> jad_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/307888/
[20:25] <Problem> BlueEagle the correct command is  sudo iwlist wlan0 scan | less
[20:25] <Uther> pessoal, baixei a imagem ISO do Kubuntu 9.10 e gostaria de saber se, depois de queimá-la em um CD, ele roda como LiveCD ?
[20:25] <jad_> neoandersen: when you get that screen type fsck /dev/sda*
[20:25] <neoandersen> BlueEagle: 01:00.0 VGA Compatible Controler:
[20:25] <neoandersen> nVidia Corporation G71 [GeForce 7950 GT] (reva1)
[20:25] <jad_> neoandersen: when you get that screen type fsck /dev/sd*
[20:25] <BluesKaj> no BlueEagle , i was responding to neoandersen's request a while ago which he claims was supposed cur his prob, a commnd that I suggested he use
[20:25] <BlueEagle> blueskaj: Still. I am not you nor are you me. :)
[20:26] <BlueEagle> problem: No, the correct thing to do is to tell us which packages you downloaded before your system broke. ;)
[20:26] <Problem> i tried to get some libs
[20:26] <Problem> i dont remember the name
[20:27] <tsimpson> sorry about this...
[20:27] <BlueEagle> problem: Any chance they are still in your .bash_history ?
[20:27] <neoandersen> BluesKaj: 01:00.0 VGA Compatible Controler:
[20:27] <neoandersen> nVidia Corporation G71 [GeForce 7950 GT] (reva1)
[20:28] <BlueEagle> tsimpson: Is that to take out the DCC-ers sending 0 bytes to port 0?
[20:28] <BluesKaj> neoandersen, are you using the nvidia-glx-185 driver, if not that's what you need to install
[20:29] <tsimpson> BlueEagle: no, just exempts for proxy users (more to come)
[20:29] <neoandersen> BluesKaj: but it's not accessing internet...
[20:30] <neoandersen> BluesKaj: it stays in ready only...
[20:30] <jad_> Problem: press up on the console to get back the commands you typed in before
[20:31] <jad_> BlueEagle: Though I honestly can't think of anythign that conflicts with the KDE libs
[20:31] <n16h7f0x> if i have a ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3430  256 mb on my notebook should i configure something manual for opengl capabilities?
[20:31] <neoandersen> BluesKaj: aptitude install nvidia-glx-185 will do the job?
[20:32] <Problem> STOP THIS
[20:32] <BluesKaj> it won't help you connect to the internet, neoandersen
[20:32] <Problem> EEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
[20:32] <kgeek> Problem: wats ur problem dude  le
[20:32] <Problem> dont flood it
[20:33] <ubuntu> where is the add/remove software program in kubuntu these days?
[20:33] <neoandersen> BluesKaj: I meant it will make the x enviroment come back?
[20:33] <ubuntu> like the software centre in Ubuntu..
[20:33] <BluesKaj> it's your graphics card driver neoandersen , I got the same prompt a while back but was able to solve it by installing the right driver , but was connected to the internet.
[20:34] <Problem> jad_ : i tried to remove this libcurl13-gnutls
[20:34] <Problem> libcurl3-gnutls
[20:35] <kgeek> ubuntu: which one  u are u using dude
[20:35] <jad_> Problem: That would do it dude :)
[20:35] <ubuntu> 9.10
[20:35] <ubuntu> most recent one
[20:35] <kgeek> ubuntu: OS
[20:35] <neoandersen> BluesKaj: it seems the solution is to find out why does this message appears: "unable to mount: Device or resource busy..."
[20:35] <Problem> tsimpson_ :can you please dont flood it friend
[20:35] <ubuntu> Kubuntu :)
[20:36] <Problem> jad_ : so this is what is missing?
[20:36] <jad_> neoandersen: run fsck /dev/sd* when you get that
[20:36] <ubuntu> why else ask it here and mention the ubuntu version :P
[20:36] <BluesKaj> neoandersen, which nvidia driver do you have installed?
[20:36] <ubuntu> variant*
[20:36] <jad_> Problem: That removes most of the packages on your system yes
[20:36] <Problem> jad_ : at first i tried to autoremove it but i chose y/n (n). and then just removed it
[20:36] <kgeek> ubuntu: ther  is Kpackage Edit in appplication tab use it directly ..it is software mgmt. tool in kubuntu 9.10
[20:36] <jad_> Problem: so sudo apt-get install kubuntu-destop would help. Get a wired connection in the meant time
[20:37] <neoandersen> BluesKaj: I am not sure... 180 I guess
[20:37] <Problem> jad_ : so to fix it. i insert my rc dvd, do apt-cd and install this lib or just kubuntu-desktop?
[20:37] <ubuntu> but kgeek,  isn't that like the package manager? I want the simple one where you can add programs, not single packages..
[20:38] <ubuntu> cause I did find that one.. :P
[20:38] <BluesKaj> neoandersen, ok , are you connected to internet?
[20:39] <kgeek> ubuntu: goto http://www.futuredesktop.org there u'll get special tools which can do the job u require..
[20:39] <Problem> jad_ : would that fix it? to get the lib from the cd?
[20:39] <neoandersen> BluesKaj: Yes, I am using kubuntu in the other hd now...
[20:39] <apparle> how do I stop a single package from being upgraded
[20:40] <kgeek> apparle: upgrade is gd to health..let it be :P
[20:41] <Problem> tsimpson_ : with all respect, what the fuck are you doing?
[20:41] <tsimpson_> !language | Problem
[20:41] <Seeker`> he is clearing out the ban list
[20:42] <BluesKaj> neoandersen, you need to stop X to ne sure, sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop ,then remove the old 180 driver , and install the nvidia-glx-185 driver . to startx , sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[20:42] <Problem> jad_ : so?
[20:42] <apparle> kgeek: Actually I did a fresh install  of 9.10 and found that radeon driver has bugs so.... I installed the jaunty driver.... no I don't want it to upgrade to karmic package
[20:42] <tsimpson> exempt list, but yes
[20:42] <Seeker`> tsimpson: its the same list, isn't it?
[20:43] <BluesKaj> neoandersen, that last command should be sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start
[20:43] <tsimpson> Seeker`: well exempts are the opposite of bans, they make people exempt from them
[20:44] <jad_> Problem: Umm what so?
[20:44] <Problem> jad_ : can i just install the lib i removed from my cd?
[20:44] <jad_> Problem: yes apt-cdrom and then install kubuntu-desktop
[20:44] <jad_> Problem: You have the DVD you said?
[20:44] <Problem> jad_ : yes
[20:44] <jad_>  OR just the live CD ?
[20:44] <neoandersen> BluesKaj: ok, this "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop" but I have gnome istalled too...
[20:44] <jad_> Yes the DVD can do that
[20:44] <Problem> jad_ : its the livecd_desktop. i just wrote it to dvd
[20:45] <jad_> Problem: Ah that's different
[20:45] <neoandersen> BluesKaj: and the gnome is default there... it's a mix of Ubuntu, Studio and Kubuntu, edubuntu programs...
[20:45] <Problem> jad_ : i downloaded the x64 desktop kubuntu 9.10 rc image
[20:46] <Problem> jad_ : around 700mb
[20:46] <BluesKaj> neoandersen, then substitute gdm in the command and repeat
[20:47] <jad_> Problem: Ok can you get a wired connection
[20:48] <apparle> I have found a bug in 9.10 how to report it
[20:48] <Problem> Problem : cant we do it from my livecd_desktop?
[20:48] <BluesKaj> !bug
[20:49] <kgeek> Problem: RC y dude have the official   one nw
[20:50] <Problem> kgeek what?
[20:51] <apparle> BluesKaj: I have removed the buggy package ... so how do I report it now
[20:51] <kgeek> Problem: u said u dwnlded RC o kubuntu 9.10 tht's y i said  have official version of 9.01  it's out
[20:51] <BluesKaj> apparle, read above
[20:51] <kgeek> apparle: go o launhpad dude
[20:52] <Problem> kgeek : this is the version i installed and then updated the system
[20:52] <kgeek> Problem: hmm ..then its alright .
[20:52] <Problem> jad_ : any ideas?
[20:53] <jad_> Problem: yes if you can get on the wireless from that
[20:54] <Problem> jad_ : can we use the cd i have?
[20:54] <slawek__> kgeek: error! no 9.01, now is 9.10 !!!!!!!
[20:54] <jad_> Problem: as long as you can get on the net yes
[20:54] <kgeek> slawek__: wat?
[20:55] <kgeek> slawek__: oh that's ma mistake sry!
[20:55] <slawek__> no problem!
[20:55] <Problem> jad_ : so i insert my cd , do apt-cd, and then what command?
[20:56] <jad_> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[20:58] <Problem> thanks
[20:58] <Problem> and that would be all?
[20:58] <Problem> all missing libs
[20:58] <Problem> will be ok?
[20:58] <Problem> or i have to install that which i removed
[20:59] <Problem> i guess it will be a dependency of kde
[20:59] <aLeSD> how could I change desktob by the keyboard
[20:59] <aLeSD> ?
[20:59] <jad_> yes
[20:59] <kgeek> Problem: apt-get resolves all dependencies dude ..be tension free
[20:59] <jad_> aLeSD: ctrl+Fn
[21:00] <Problem> kgeek : cool
[21:00] <kgeek> alexei: ctrl+f1or +f2+ f3
[21:00] <K-Hyoga> Hi all, just a fast "hello" from a brand new Kubuntu user :)
[21:01] <Mamarok> kgeek: what is flor?
[21:01] <Mamarok> !hi | K-Hyoga
[21:04] <jad_> K-Hyoga: Welcome to Kubuntu!
[21:09] <deivid> hi?? i needhelp installing the fingeprint reader...stuck on editting the common-auth file
[21:09] <jad_> deivid: are you following instructions from somewhere?
[21:09] <deivid> yes
[21:10] <kexman> pfff now my sound is missing
[21:11] <deivid> http://www.guia-ubuntu.org/index.php?title=Fingerprint_Reader (the spanish version, i guess its the same in eng)
[21:11] <second_nick> hi
[21:11] <second_nick> how
[21:11] <Problematic> how
[21:12] <Problematic> to make a livecd repositoryu
[21:13] <aLeSD> jad_: I haven't Fn
[21:13] <jad_> Zoing: I don't understand the question
[21:13] <jad_> aLeSD: n is a number
[21:13] <jad_> aLeSD: 1 2 3
[21:13] <jad_> so ^F1 ^F2 ^F3
[21:13] <kexman> isnt there any method to use remote login from a kubuntu livecd ?
[21:13] <aLeSD> hey
[21:13] <Zoing> jad_ : its problem here. apt-cd failed
[21:13] <aLeSD> it works
[21:13] <aLeSD> :)
[21:13] <aLeSD> tx
[21:13] <Zoing> jad_ : is it the correct command?
[21:13] <FloodBotK2> aLeSD: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:15] <KjetilK> are there any major issues with 9.10 that has come up in the last few days that aren't in the release notes?
[21:15] <Pr0blem> jad_ : apt-cd isnt the correct command
[21:15] <jad_> Pr0blem: It's apt-cdrom
[21:15] <Pr0blem> ooh ok
[21:16] <kgeek> does any budy  faced this problem that ..in this 9.10  it is very difficult to connect to a secured wireless network ..
[21:17] <deivid> too busy around here, well thanks for help anyways im out
[21:17] <GrosSeb> Is there a tutorial or some resources about reseting KDE mime types to restore the default ones after a strange 9.04 upgrade ?
[21:17] <Pr0blem> jad_ : ok but how to use the command. plain apt-cdrom doesnt do it
[21:18] <BluesKaj> kgeek, network manager?
[21:18] <kgeek> BluesKaj: wat u want  to say ..!!
[21:19] <BlakHat_> hi guyz, does anyone know how i can automatically load the uinput driver at bootime and set its permissions in kubuntu?
[21:19] <kgeek> BluesKaj: actully i m  nt able to connect to my hostels wireless router .while other people who r u using win box are well connected ,,
[21:20] <BluesKaj> kgeek, network manager has wpa connect problems , so I use wicd instead
[21:22] <BluesKaj> !info wicd | kgeek
[21:22] <jad_> Pr0blem: sudo apt-cdrom
[21:23] <kgeek> BluesKaj:  ya i used network maneger ..
[21:23] <kgeek> BluesKaj: wats wicd.
[21:23] <kgeek> BluesKaj: that i did ..bot info ..
[21:24] <kgeek> BluesKaj: :p thnx
[21:30] <Problemito> jad_ : it opens a list and says add to add cdrom and some options
[21:30] <Problemito>  23:25:15 | <Pr0blem> so its not the full command
[21:30] <Problemito> jad_ : it opens a list and says add to add cdrom and some options
[21:30] <Problemito>  23:25:15 | <Pr0blem> so its not the full command
[21:30] <FloodBotK2> Problemito: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:31] <jad_> If it's the live CD it won't work
[21:31] <Problemito> it is the livecd
[21:31] <neoandersen> BluesKaj: nothing worked
[21:31] <BluesKaj> kgeek, copy and paste this url in your sources.list, deb http://apt.wicd.net karmic extras
[21:32] <kgeek> oh fine
[21:32] <kexman> how can i make my kubuntu have wifi connection right at boot ?
[21:32] <kexman> 9.04
[21:32] <kgeek> BluesKaj: oh thnxx dude i m able to installllllll  it form apt-get ..directly ..without that addition of link to souce list
[21:32] <neoandersen> BluesKaj: I have uploaded the outputs in flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/garotobossanova/?saved=1
[21:33] <kgeek> BluesKaj: it is already their in repository ..
[21:36] <BluesKaj> kgeek, install wicd , it will autodisable network manager and you can then setup wicd wifi for you secure network
[21:37] <kgeek> BluesKaj: actuallly while installing Wcid it is removing network manager..
[21:38] <jad_> Problemito: get a wired connection
[21:38] <kgeek> BluesKaj:   if it will remoove it then how i'll be able to instal it from apt-get..my wired net will go along with network maneger.!
[21:40] <BluesKaj> kgeek, networkmanger will work until wicd is installed
[21:41] <kgeek> BluesKaj: are u sure !!
[21:42] <BluesKaj> neoandersen, a clean install of the live cd is prolly in order and you can save your data if you use the manual partitioning option on your /  partition.  That's how I rescued my install from disaster. You may need to reinstall some apps  but their config files will have remained intact so your settings will be retained.'
[21:43] <BluesKaj> kgeek, yes, if wicd doesn't work you can always re-enable network manager from the widgets or the run box, after removing wicd
[21:44] <kexman> OMG
[21:44] <kexman> 9.04 = not that good .....
[21:44] <somekool> thats why 9.10 was released
[21:44] <carpii_> ive a windows server, and a windows desktop. Im connecting to these from ubuntu via samba, and the server works fine.  The desktop keeps prompting for a username/pwd which I cant provide. How can I fix this?
[21:44] <carpii_> On both server and desktop, I did nothing other than share the default admin share for C$
[21:45] <fabri> hi
[21:45] <kexman> somekool ... the upgrade option has dissapeared !
[21:45] <neoandersen> BluesKaj: I have big unfinished torrent  files on transmission... I can't lose them...
[21:45] <kexman> logout / login = not helping
[21:45] <kexman> restarted ....
[21:45] <kexman> its like windows
[21:45] <kexman> but even sound stopped working :)))))
[21:45] <kexman> just like that
[21:45] <kexman> it says the .... analog is not working switching to digital ....
[21:46] <kexman> the soundcard is not working in english :)
[21:46] <fabri> in DVD i386 of Koala ther is the Netbook installation?
[21:46] <kexman> how should i upgrade ?
[21:46] <kexman> fresh install
[21:46] <BluesKaj> neoandersen, then you just have too many unresolved issues that I'm not able to help you with , sorry :(
[21:46] <GrosSeb> Sorry, but i'm going to ask it once again : is there a tutorial or some resources about reseting KDE mime types to restore the default ones after a strange 9.04 upgrade ?
[21:47] <kexman> haha its getting better and better
[21:47] <neoandersen> BluesKaj: ok thanks
[21:47] <kexman> i can only update no upgrade ... purely dissapeared !
[21:47] <Sinkro63> hi. I use 9.10 gnome. i wonder if its the same annoing notification area applet in kubuntu?
[21:48] <BluesKaj> kexman, install update-manager
[21:48] <Sinkro63> a black square?
[21:48] <Idhan>  I need to install gdb 6.8 instead of 7.0.. how can I do that? is for netbeans..they do not support gdb 7.0
[21:49] <Sinkro63> is thera a black square when You recive a notification in Kbuntu?
[21:49] <kexman> only for gnome ?
[21:49] <kexman> this is kubuntu we are in :)
[21:49] <Sinkro63> yes
[21:50] <Sinkro63> are there a black square when You recive a msg?
[21:50] <Sinkro63> yes or no?
[21:50] <Sinkro63> in gnome ther is.
[21:50] <Sinkro63> but is there in kubuntu?
[21:50] <Idhan> Sinkro63: which type of msg?
[21:51] <Sinkro63> idhan: fx. when you get a message from a friend i pidgin
[21:51] <Sinkro63> and you dont have focus on pidgin
[21:52] <Sinkro63> or when you got a mail
[21:52] <kexman> should i run a partial upgrade ?
[21:52] <kexman> that is what update-manager says
[21:52] <Sinkro63> U dont seem toknow what I talking about
[21:52] <gorgonzola> helo. just reinstalled karmic from beta, and jockey is not offering to install propietary drivers. help?
[21:52] <Idhan> that depend of each application.. there isn't a system-try program that capture all these msgs..
[21:52] <Sinkro63> eg Kubuntu dont show a black square
[21:53] <Sinkro63> no notification area applet?
[21:53] <Idhan> Sinkro63: yes..they are.. amsn display an icon for messeges and email as example
[21:54] <Idhan> evolution is the same..
[21:54] <jwx> how do I change kdm theme? kdmrc? is thee graphical way?
[21:54] <gorgonzola> jwx you mean the login manager theme?
[21:54] <Sinkro63> ok
[21:54] <Idhan> but each program does it in its own way.. and you can always configurate this mgs
[21:54] <Sinkro63>  tnx
[21:54] <jwx> gorgonzola: yes
[21:55] <gorgonzola> jwx ssytem settings -> advanced -> login manager
[21:55] <gorgonzola> jwx ssytem settings -> advanced -> login manager -> theme, actually :)
[21:55] <Sinkro63> in gnome You can per application turn it on or of, but when its on this Notification area show an black square as an addition.
[21:55] <Sinkro63> very annoing
[21:56] <jwx> gorgonzola: thanks =) how could I miss that.. thanks
[21:56] <Idhan> Sinkro63: sure..but this for sure are only gnome applications..
[21:57] <Sinkro63> I have done a fresh install of ubuntu 9.10. should i do a new frsh with kubuntu or is there an other way?
[21:57] <gorgonzola> jwx np. enjoy.
[21:57] <kexman> BluesKaj: should i run the partial upgrade that update-manager recommends ?
[21:58] <BluesKaj> kexman, yes
[21:58] <jwx> gorgonzola: I will =) installed kubuntu the other day.. looks great
[21:58] <Idhan> Sinkro63: you can install kde on ubuntu..as a second graphics enviroment.. however from kde you can install any gnome program.. if you are in gnome, not all the program are supported.. as example I use kile.. you cann't install it..at least not directly from the apt-get
[21:58] <BluesKaj> kexman, you need to update first, then upgrade
[21:59] <v1ttu_> heyyyyyyyyy o/
[21:59] <neoandersen> is there a way to undo an unsuccessful upgrade from 8.04 to 9.10?
[21:59] <jwx> only thing left to change is the grub.. says beta and bliks.. not the best first impression lol
[22:00] <v1ttu_> ummmmm can i ask about kmail problems here?
[22:00] <BluesKaj> neoandersen, did you try to go directly from 8.04 to 9.10 ?
[22:00] <ctb> Anyone having problems with bad signatures on index files from "http://dk.archive.ubuntu.com karmic-updates Release"?
[22:00] <gorgonzola> v1ttu yes, just ask the question , don't ask to ask. :)
[22:01] <gorgonzola> anyone else having problems getting jockey to show drivers?
[22:01] <v1ttu_> lol kk
[22:01] <v1ttu_> when i try to reply i get this
[22:01] <v1ttu_> Your SMTP server does not support The server responded: "INVALID SASL FORMAT OR LENGTH".
[22:01] <v1ttu_> wtf does that mean O___0
[22:04] <v1ttu_> i gues noone knows </3
[22:04] <v1ttu_> guess*
[22:07] <C00LARR0w> to do full disk encryption i need to use the alternate cd for the install correct?
[22:12] <kexman> suspend to disk doesnt work neither :P
[22:17] <Scunizi> I'm on a vm'd version of 9.04 and have done the updates but 4 are held back, linux headers, kernel, restricted extras & image generic.. not just held back but "Blocked" .. Why?
[22:19] <Scunizi> The one option that still exists is to upgrade to 9.10 which I'm currently attempting....
[22:21] <Scunizi> aproximate wait time 1 hr 13 minutes on my connection..
[22:25] <Shoshana> where i can get kubuntu wallpaper default ( the blue ) in some res ?
[22:25] <Shoshana> reslution
[22:26] <JontheEchidna> The folder at /usr/share/wallpapers/Air/contents/images has it in several resolutions
[22:26] <JontheEchidna> Scunizi: in 9.04 KPackageKit could not handle updates that installed new packages, which doesn't happen in 9.10 any more
[22:27] <Shoshana> i dont have kubuntu i just want the wallpapaer, you can send me please ?
[22:27] <stefanjrklb> hello :)
[22:27] <v1ttu_> lol kpackagekit ....
[22:27] <JontheEchidna> Shoshana: you should be able to just install kdebase-workspace-wallpapers for that
[22:28] <Shoshana> i need to write sudo get-apt kdebase-workspace-wallpapers ?
[22:28] <JontheEchidna> sudo apt-get install kdebase-workspace-wallpapers
[22:28] <Scunizi> JontheEchidna: thanks.. I'll see how the system reacts after the 9.10 upgrade is complete.. I'm not expecting any issues after that but you never know.. kde is certainly looking much better lately (this coming from a 5 yr gnome user.) :)
[22:28] <kutuZov> does anybody of you know how to change the login windows with ubuntu 9.10? After installing the xubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop package I've always this strange xubuntu login screen and kubuntu splash creen and I want my nice ubuntu theme back.
[22:28] <Shoshana> and then i go to /usr/share/wallpapers/Air/contents/images ?
[22:28] <stefanjrklb> What deos it mean that I have to add development kit ??
[22:29] <JontheEchidna> yeah
[22:29] <JontheEchidna> Scunizi: the held back packages should not cause any issues, since KPackageKit doesn't do the actual updating to 9.10
[22:29]  * ctb is away: Gone away for now
[22:30] <dvheumen> sorry ... but I just *have* to ask ... What's the deal with the moving power management (battery) information in the Battery Monitor plasmoid??? :P
[22:30] <Scunizi> thanks JontheEchidna... after the upgrade.. just for general info.. does KPackageKit use aptitude or apt ? or is it another?
[22:30] <JontheEchidna> Scunizi: It's a KDE frontend for PackageKit
[22:30]  * ctb is back.
[22:31] <JontheEchidna> PackageKit is a cross-distro package system that has backends for apt, rpm, etc
[22:31] <Scunizi> JontheEchidna: and packagekit is different then aptitude & apt? what's the basic usage on cli?
[22:31] <JontheEchidna> packagekit doesn't have a cli interface
[22:31] <JontheEchidna> ultimately apt, aptitude, packagekit-apt all interface with dpkg
[22:31] <v1ttu_> packagekit is a disaster
[22:32] <Scunizi> JontheEchidna: ah.. ok.
[22:33] <JontheEchidna> let's just say packagekit fails less in 9.10. ;-) It's very far from perfect still
[22:34] <JontheEchidna> but I've always used apt-get
[22:34] <Scunizi> too bad synaptic didn't get a makeover for kde
[22:34] <roKB> !commands
[22:34] <v1ttu_> use the terminal instead of kborkigekit ¬_¬
[22:35] <neoandersen> BluesKaj: the last time I had this problem I was going from 8.04 to 8.10 or 9.04 I am not sure...
[22:35] <roKB> !next
[22:35]  * claydoh likes kpackagekit, mostly, it passes the Spouse Test here
[22:35] <neoandersen> BluesKaj: but, anyway, in the grub it appears as 8.04 2 since then and now...
[22:35] <roKB> !<3 Di_Ana
[22:36] <neoandersen> BluesKaj: the last time I just lost the X and now the system is not mounting...
[22:37] <BluesKaj> neoandersen, you have to install all the versions between 8,04 and 9.10 , by upgrading from 8.04 to 8.10, theen to 9.04, then to 9.10, youcan't skip over any distos
[22:37] <neoandersen> BluesKaj: there must be a way to mount it and continue with the upgrade process...
[22:37] <baxeico_> Hi guys, I've a problem in Kubuntu 9.10: when I close kontact, I can still see a kontact process in System Activity (together with many kio_http, kio_imap4 and kio_file). If I try to launch kontact again, nothing happens
[22:38] <baxeico_> If I kill the kontact process in System Activity, I can launch kontact again
[22:38] <baxeico_> any idea?
[22:38] <v1ttu_> yea
[22:39] <Scunizi> v1ttu_: such verbosity.. you're killing us with detail.. :)
[22:39] <claydoh> BluesKaj: you can go directly from 8.04 to 9.10 directly: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KarmicUpgrades/Kubuntu/8.04
[22:40] <claydoh> I don't know how ell tested it is, tho I had success using a bone-stock vanilla 8.04
[22:41] <v1ttu_> what more detail do you need for that question?
[22:43] <BluesKaj> claydoh, hmm , thatlooks like an ordinary clean install to me , with existing backup of apps in 8.10, with some help from the alternate installer cd, not an ordinary netupde/upgrade from the command line
[22:45] <neoandersen> I am without sound here on kubuntu on youtube...
[22:45] <BluesKaj> claydoh, i suspect that someone was advised to change the sources.list to karmic then do the upgrade from 8.10 , not a workable solution.
[22:46] <v1ttu_> neo how did you install flash?
[22:47] <NicoAJ> Hi! Does anybody know how to configure KMail so as to have each "set" of folders [Mailbox+OutBox+Drafts+etc] for each account ?
[22:47] <neoandersen> v1ttu_: there's no need to flash if your firefox is 3.5
[22:47] <v1ttu_> i see i dont use firefox
[22:47] <v1ttu_> are you using 64 bit?
[22:47] <neoandersen> yesh
[22:47] <neoandersen> yes
[22:48] <v1ttu_> how did you install flash?
[22:48] <neoandersen> what is the comand to see if my kubuntu is amd64 or  i386?
[22:48] <v1ttu_> sudo uname -a
[22:48] <Scunizi> neoandersen: lsb_release -a
[22:48] <robo78> sup
[22:49] <Scunizi> per
[22:49] <v1ttu_> 2 ways? spoilt for choice :p
[22:49] <Scunizi> it's a good thing
[22:49] <ulysses__> neoandersen: uname -m
[22:50] <neoandersen> it shows x86_64
[22:50] <BluesKaj> or uname -a for more info
[22:51] <dvheumen> 'lsb_release -a' doesn't show proc. architecture for me
[22:51] <baxeico_> thank you anyway. I'm going to fill a bug report
[22:51] <neoandersen> is x86_64 a mix of i386 and amd64?
[22:52] <ulysses__> no, its called from historical reason to amd64
[22:52] <Scunizi> dvheumen: doesn't for me either.... appologies to v1ttu_& neoandersen .. for some reason that stuck in my head.
[22:52] <BluesKaj> neoandersen, no that's 64
[22:52] <claydoh> BluesKaj: the 8.04-9.10 instructions are for both methods, and is officially supported
[22:52] <dvheumen> Scunizi, well, no prob, ofcourse ;)
[22:53] <BluesKaj> claydoh, ok good to know , thanks for the tip :)
[22:53] <neoandersen> what is a good book to learn about the ubuntu OS structure?
[22:54] <v1ttu_> neo how did you install flash??
[22:54] <NicoAJ> any hints for Kmail?
[22:55] <Vlado9A3CY> neoandersen: the best book is google :)
[22:55] <neoandersen> v1ttu_: I use more ubuntu then I just go to synaptic and search for flash plugin...
[22:55] <baxeico_> here it is: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdepim/+bug/471854
[22:56] <neoandersen> you can search for gecko
[22:56] <verruckt> народ, здорово, кто может подсказать правильную схему настройки локалхоста
[22:56] <neoandersen> there are non-free flash plaugin for amd64 in the adobe site...
[22:57] <Scunizi> neoandersen: I think it's called the ubuntu reference guide that is freely available as a pdf download.. is a good place to start.  Also search for references on scribd.com .. B&N & Amazon have tons of stuff
[22:57] <Shoshana> There is possible like in windows 7 (mini preview / eliipse tabs) example : http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/8396/74754754858.jpg
[22:58] <ulysses__> there's a book called Ubuntu Pocket Guide, can be download free from amazon, if I remember good
[22:58] <ulysses__> Shoshana: try Smooth STasks plasmoid, it can be installed via KPackageKit
[22:58] <BluesKaj> time to put the aptop away for another day
[22:59] <ulysses__> uhm, I failed, I found only stasks...:P
[23:00] <ulysses__> this is it: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Smooth+Tasks?content=101586
[23:04] <Scunizi> While pointing at the above link and getting the thumbnail.. it shows a Windows registry cleaner ad but when you go to the site .. it's not there.. how does that happen?
[23:05] <Shoshana> There is possible like in windows 7 (mini preview / eliipse tabs) example : http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/8396/74754754858.jpg
[23:12] <Shoshana> There is possible like in windows 7 (mini preview / eliipse tabs) example : http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/8396/74754754858.jpg
[23:14] <yofel> Shoshana: it is possible to have window thumbnails when hovering taskbar entries, but they aren't klickable (yet) like in W7
[23:19] <insulina> hello, i just installed the last kubunto on my pc. how do i put wireless network working ? I am trying to use knetworkmanager but I cant connect ...
[23:19] <insulina> I am trying to connect to wpa2/tkip
[23:21] <yofel> insulina: do you see any wireless networks?
[23:21] <insulina> yes
[23:21] <insulina> i see mine
[23:22] <yofel> and where does it fail?
[23:25] <yofel> insulina: did you say something?  Got disconnected for a moment
[23:30] <Scunizi> yofel: he/she said that they see their own network
[23:31] <insulina_> i am he
[23:33] <Scunizi> insulina: I would turn off all wpa/wep encryption and then connect.. once connected you should be able to go back and redo the encryption on the router then edit the connection on Kubuntu
[23:34] <insulina_> humm , i will try
[23:34] <insulina_> in my last computer i had to compile something in the kernel to have tkip suport ... do i have to do it in kubunto ?
[23:35] <Scunizi> insulina: not sure if that is already implemented in 9.10 or not.. wireless is getting better.. so best just to try
[23:35] <yofel> insulina: when you place your mouse over the kNM icon in the systray while it's connecting it should tell you what it's doing right now. What's the last thing it tries?
[23:38] <insulina_> i will try to reboot my router ...
[23:48] <jeiworth> geez and i was bughunting big time to get my speakers working again after karmic upgrade where only the jack-output worked but not the lap-speakers just to find out that after the upgrade the speakers-output-level was reset to 0 :P
[23:50] <insulina__> didnt work, i also try wep , and didnt work :(
[23:53] <jeiworth> but amarok still doesn't start :(
[23:53] <n16h7f0x> do i have to install any other packages for my ati hd 4340 video card for opengl to work on 9.10 or it works by default (please excuse my eng and advice)