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RenatoSilvaspiv: sorry00:03
RenatoSilvahttp://img4.imageshack.us/img4/4526/nobrown.png00:04
* popey likes brown too00:04
popeyjust, y'know, sayin' :)00:04
* RenatoSilva wonders if it's related to Europe00:06
* wgrant is in .au.00:07
wgrantSo no!00:07
RenatoSilvahttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarkShuttleworth#Why%20is%20the%20default%20desktop%20in%20Ubuntu%20BROWN?00:10
* RenatoSilva wonders whether crashing applications bleed00:13
CarlFKa while go someone said multi release PPA uploads were coming soon - has soon happened yet?00:59
wgrantCarlFK: No.00:59
CarlFKuntil then, is there a convention for how to do it?01:01
CarlFKseems like i have to bump the version number01:01
wgrantAppend ~hardy1, ~intrepid1, etc.01:01
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lifelesswgrant: you can copy binaries between PPA's right?06:35
wgrantlifeless: Sure.06:35
lifelessthanks06:36
lifelessdo you know if the arch list is checked?06:36
wgrantIt's not.06:36
wgrantIt will blindly copy all binaries.06:36
wgrantIf the target archive supports additional archs (ie. is non-virtual), new builds should be created for the extra archs.06:37
lifelesscool06:40
wgrant(note that all archs are published in a virtual PPA; the non-virt archs just normally don't have arch-specific binaries in them)06:40
lifelessthanks06:40
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mwhudsonare there any working key servers currently?08:31
mwhudsonpool.sks-keyservers.net isn't talking to me08:31
wgrantmwhudson: It's a pool. It can't not talk to you! Make sure you're using the right port.08:35
mwhudsongpg --keyserver pool.sks-keyservers.net --recv $fingerprint08:36
mwhudsonit's not on a special port is it?08:36
wgrantIt's on 11371, but that should be the default.08:37
mdkemwhudson: not sure if it's related but people have been complaining a lot about keyservers not synching on bug 43519309:01
ubottuLaunchpad bug 435193 in ubuntu-website "keyserver.ubuntu.com down all time - (110) Connection timed out" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/43519309:01
mdke(just fyi)09:01
mwhudsongpg: requesting key 09827771 from hkp server pool.sks-keyservers.net09:02
mwhudsongpgkeys: HTTP fetch error 7: Failed to connect to 2001:470:1f05:429:420:420:420:420: Network is unreachable09:02
mwhudsonmdke: hmm09:02
falktxcan anyone tell me why do I upload packages but they don't appear on my ppa?11:51
noodles775falktx: are you getting any response email (success, failure) after 5 mins.11:52
bigjoolsfalktx: did you get any email about your upload?11:52
falktxno mail11:52
falktxbut upload is sucessful11:52
falktxi've tried many settings now11:52
* bigjools thinks about creating a FAQ for this11:52
bigjoolsfalktx: no email means you either didn't sign the upload or signed with a key not known to Launchpad11:53
noodles775(it's mentioned in the first para at https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/UploadErrors)11:53
falktxi have 3 keys registered for my ppa11:54
falktxdo i need to sign using the original one, or any of the 3 is fine?11:54
noodles775any of the 3 should be fine... hrm.11:54
bigjoolsyou mean registered for a user?11:55
falktxsee my page - ~falk-t-j11:56
falktxi think my 3rd fingerprint is not registered yet12:06
falktxmaybe that's the problem12:06
falktxwill upload again now12:07
falktxyay12:10
falktxworks now12:10
falktxthanks bigjools for pointing that out12:11
apwdoes anyone know why Lucid is appearing at the bottom of the versions table (oldest) instead of the top (newest) ?? https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux12:39
wgrantapw: Bug 46401412:40
ubottuLaunchpad bug 464014 in launchpad-registry "DistributionSourcePackageView.active_series sorts versions as strings" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/46401412:40
apwoh 10.10 ... heh12:40
wgrant10.04, but yes.12:41
apwdoh ... yeah12:41
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rdbHum, what if someone is using a username on launchpad that I'd like to have, and that person has not used launchpad ever?13:50
rdbdo usernames expire, or should I contact the user and ask if he'd like to change his uername13:52
beunordb, I would start by contacting the user13:52
rdbk, thanks13:52
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kirklandhow do i unsubscribe a team i administer from a given package's bugs15:18
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rdbLol? http://pro-rsoft.com/screens/launchpad-question.png15:26
rdb(that happens when I click my email address verify link, btw15:27
rdbseems like a bug15:27
bacrdb: that is a bug.  could you go to http://launchpad.net/launchpad and file it?  it would be great if you could add the screenshot as an attachment15:33
james_w`kirkland: go to the package page and click "Subscribe to bug mail"15:34
kirklandjames_w`: got it, thanks!15:34
rdbbac, sure thing15:34
rdbbac, https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/47117115:46
ubottuUbuntu bug 471171 in launchpad "email confirmation page is empty" [Undecided,New]15:46
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bacrdb:  thanks!16:19
bacrockstar: you aren't really CHR today are you?16:20
rockstarbac, no sir.  I think gmb is.16:22
bacrockstar: ok, i just was looking at the topi16:23
bactopic16:23
bacmrjazzcat: ping16:23
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mrjazzcatbac: hi Brad.16:23
apwintellectronica, yo ... remember we were talking about nominations for per package uploaders ... that seems to still be broken16:30
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rockstarapw, intellectronica is unavailable currently.16:31
apwrockstar, ok ta16:32
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c_kornhello, I have a question about the gpg key. I use a gpg key to sign my packages so I can upload them to my PPA. I recently added a new email address to my gpg key and synced with the keyserver (the getdeb address http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?search=0x0F16B5FC859F3940230248D2DD6DF71C412D1685&op=index ) but when I sign a package with this new address and upload I just do not get an email and the package does not appear in the ppa. I wait16:51
c_korned for a few days now.16:51
bigjoolsc_korn: did you tell LP about your new email address?16:53
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c_kornbigjools: oh, didn't know I also have to do this. thanks.16:56
bigjoolsc_korn: yes, it won't email people it doesn't know about, to avoid spam16:57
c_kornbigjools: makes sense :) and I just got my mail that the package has been accepted. thanks17:06
bigjoolsgreat17:06
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micahg1are the Ubuntu IRC channels offline?18:31
micahg1nevermind...18:31
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MenZaI'm trying to subscribe to the ~ubuntuone-users mailing list, but it's throwing me an Oops!. I suspect it's my merged account, which also keeps me from changing my e-mails.20:47
mwhudsonMenZa: suck20:48
mwhudsonMenZa: what's the oops id?20:48
MenZamwhudson: OOPS-1402ED68920:48
ubottuhttps://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=1402ED68920:48
* MenZa didn't know ubottu parsed oops IDs like bugs.20:49
mwhudsonConstraintNotSatisfied: <security proxied canonical.launchpad.database.emailaddress.EmailAddress instance at 0x1021fdd0>20:49
mwhudsonwell _that's_ helpful20:49
MenZawell, I can give you some background information20:49
MenZaI had an account with the e-mail lasse@havelund.org. this was merged into my current, ~lhavelund, with e-mail lasse.havelund@gmail.com20:49
MenZaso I'm thinking it's screaming because of a bad database correction and freaks out because it doesn't know which to use, or something to that effect20:50
mwhudsonwell maybe20:50
MenZaI get OOPS (oopses?) when I try to +editemails as well.20:50
mwhudsonthat definitely shouldn't break anything though20:50
mwhudsonsinzui: do you know anything about MenZa's problem?20:50
MenZaSomeone reported issues with merged accounts and U1 as well in an ubuntuone-client bug, iirc.20:51
MenZaso something tells me merging isn't too good20:51
MenZa(not an *error*, just inaccessible files in that case)20:52
* sinzui looks20:52
* sinzui has not seen anything like this since Account were separated from Person and there were users without a primary email address20:53
MenZahmm20:53
MenZabug report time?20:53
* MenZa bites lip.20:53
sinzuiMenZa: but looking the death in the MailingList code, I wonder if you are a member of a dead team.20:54
mwhudsonMenZa: hm, i only see one email addy on your profile, i would expect to see two20:54
sinzuibarry: what do you think about https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=1402ED68920:54
MenZasinzui: hmm20:54
sinzuioh login20:54
sinzuiMenZa: did you just register?20:54
MenZasinzui: no, my ~menza account is from 2005, and ~lhavelund which it was merged into, was created 2--3 weeks ago20:55
sinzuiI think the merge broke something...20:55
MenZaseems like it, heh20:55
sinzui~lhavelund should not be accessible if you merged20:55
MenZa~lhavelund is the new account - ~menza is the old account20:56
mwhudsonsinzui: i bet ~menza was subscribed to a mailing list with an EmailAddress that somehow isn't validated for ~lhavelund20:57
sinzuimwhudson: I am not sure since validation does not work with users, it is a state on the address, once transfered, it is still the same object20:57
sinzuibarry: ping20:58
MenZamwhudson: That is correct - my old e-mail address is not validated, as I cannot +editemails. I get an oops there as well. Want an ID?20:58
MenZaOOPS-1402EB70820:59
ubottuhttps://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=1402EB70820:59
MenZaThat's the one ^20:59
mwhudsonMenZa: i think that's more or less the same problem20:59
* MenZa nods21:00
MenZaI figured it would be21:00
MenZaI've just been too lazy to report a bug (sorry D:)21:00
sinzuiI think the issue is that a list was deactivated, or someone performed DB surgery to give its email address to some other user, and that broken the DB21:01
mwhudsonyeah, it's a data issue not a code issue21:01
mwhudsonit seems21:01
MenZawell that's good21:01
sinzuiWe really need barry to answer this since he has the experience of what he had to do to fix the damage21:01
MenZaI suppose21:01
MenZaIt's nothing urgent - I can wait.21:02
MenZaThanks muchly for your help thus far.21:02
MenZa!helpersnack | sinzui, mwhudson21:02
ubottusinzui, mwhudson: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!21:02
sinzuiWow, that query to fine mailing lists for your teams should be optimised21:05
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thropehi - i accidently subscribed to a bug when I did an automatic bug report on a new 9.10 install and now im inundated with updates/duplicates... i've been trying to unsubscribe for about 4 days but I cant log in to launchpad without errors22:53
thropeon most of the tickets there isnt even an indication of the ticket i subscribed to22:53
thropehas launchpad been down for several days?22:53
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wgrantthrope: No. It has been very much up. What goes wrong when you try to log in?22:54
thropetimeout error22:54
thropeoh actually i am logged in - it is just the links in the emails that time out22:54
wgrantAh. What is the link?22:54
thropehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/41784222:54
ubottuUbuntu bug 417842 in linux "WARNING: at /build/buildd/linux-2.6.31/kernel/power/suspend_test.c:52 suspend_test_finish+0x7c/0x80()" [Low,In progress]22:54
thropein my profile i can see list of subscribed bugs22:55
thropehow can i unsubscribe from that one22:55
MenZaactually, it does so here on bugs.edge22:55
thrope(Error ID: OOPS-1402D3725)22:55
ubottuhttps://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=1402D372522:55
wgrantMust be a big bug.22:55
wgrantI wonder if it's typing out due to the absolutely ridiculous number of duplicates.22:56
wgrantEr. timing out.22:56
thropeso is there any way i can stop the emails?22:56
thropei'm getting 20 or so an hour22:56
wgrantthrope: To unsubscribe, add '/+subscribe' to the end of the URL.22:56
mwhudsonthe time out is somewhere in the subscription stuff22:56
thropewgrant: brilliant - i think that worked!22:57
wgrantProbably calculating subscribers from the duplicates.22:57
thropealthoguht looks like its timing out again22:57
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wgrantYeah, that bug has 337 duplicates.22:58
wgrantIt's probably timing out calculating the subscribers for all of those.22:58
wgrantHm.22:59
wgrantNo, that can't be right.22:59
wgrantThe subscribers list is loaded asynchronously.22:59
mwhudsonwgrant: nevertheless, i think you might be right23:00
mwhudson   - /srv/launchpad.net/production/launchpad-rev-8539/lib/lp/bugs/browser/../templates/bug-portlet-subscribers.pt23:00
mwhudson   - Line 11, Column 423:00
wgrantmwhudson: Ah, probably hunting through all the subscriptions of all of the bugs anyway, just to discover whether it needs to render a Subscribe or an Unsubscribe link...23:01
wgrantSad.23:01
mwhudsonwgrant: oh could be23:01
mwhudsonsomething is odd though, the reported sql time is only 2 seconds23:02
wgrantAnd I suppose there's no breakdown of Python time.23:02
mwhudsonwell i think the report is probably lying23:02
mwhudsonthrope: did you manage to unsubscribe23:08
mwhudson?23:08
thropeno - it timed out23:10
mwhudsonhm23:10
mwhudsonthe +subscribe page loaded for me23:10
mwhudsonthrope: what was the oops the second time?23:11
mwhudsonthrope: might be worth trying again23:11
wgrantIt will redirect after the POST to the page that times out, but it should have actually unsubscribed you.23:11
thropethe first page came up very quick with the button to unsubscribe23:11
wgrantIf you return to the page, does it instead ask you to subscribe?23:11
mwhudsonoh right23:11
thropebut after clicking it timed out23:11
mwhudsonthrope: you're probably unsubscribed then23:11
thropeand in my profile its still listed as a subscription23:11
mwhudsonoh really?23:11
mwhudsonhm23:11
wgrantOh.23:12
wgrantThat will execute another big query.23:12
wgrantVery similar to the other one, to attempt to unsubscribe you from all dupes.23:12
thropeI'll try again23:12
thropeah it worked this time!23:12
wgrantExcellent.23:12
wgrantNormal bugs work fine. But this bug is in no way normal :(23:13
thropethanks alot... sorry for the trouble23:13
thropeyes i think its overzealous automatic reporting23:13
thropei got the error coming back from resume and thought id try the automatic reporter23:13
wgrantIt doesn't help that the automatic reporting was automatically turned back on the Jaunty->Karmic upgrade.23:13
wgrantBut that has now been fixed.23:13
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ebroderIs there a better place to talk about launchpadlib, or is this it?23:36

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