[00:03] spiv: sorry [00:04] http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/4526/nobrown.png [00:04] * popey likes brown too [00:04] just, y'know, sayin' :) [00:06] * RenatoSilva wonders if it's related to Europe [00:07] * wgrant is in .au. [00:07] So no! [00:10] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarkShuttleworth#Why%20is%20the%20default%20desktop%20in%20Ubuntu%20BROWN? [00:13] * RenatoSilva wonders whether crashing applications bleed [00:59] a while go someone said multi release PPA uploads were coming soon - has soon happened yet? [00:59] CarlFK: No. [01:01] until then, is there a convention for how to do it? [01:01] seems like i have to bump the version number [01:01] Append ~hardy1, ~intrepid1, etc. === micahg1 is now known as micahg [06:35] wgrant: you can copy binaries between PPA's right? [06:35] lifeless: Sure. [06:36] thanks [06:36] do you know if the arch list is checked? [06:36] It's not. [06:36] It will blindly copy all binaries. [06:37] If the target archive supports additional archs (ie. is non-virtual), new builds should be created for the extra archs. [06:40] cool [06:40] (note that all archs are published in a virtual PPA; the non-virt archs just normally don't have arch-specific binaries in them) [06:40] thanks === micahg1 is now known as micahg [08:31] are there any working key servers currently? [08:31] pool.sks-keyservers.net isn't talking to me [08:35] mwhudson: It's a pool. It can't not talk to you! Make sure you're using the right port. [08:36] gpg --keyserver pool.sks-keyservers.net --recv $fingerprint [08:36] it's not on a special port is it? [08:37] It's on 11371, but that should be the default. [09:01] mwhudson: not sure if it's related but people have been complaining a lot about keyservers not synching on bug 435193 [09:01] Launchpad bug 435193 in ubuntu-website "keyserver.ubuntu.com down all time - (110) Connection timed out" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/435193 [09:01] (just fyi) [09:02] gpg: requesting key 09827771 from hkp server pool.sks-keyservers.net [09:02] gpgkeys: HTTP fetch error 7: Failed to connect to 2001:470:1f05:429:420:420:420:420: Network is unreachable [09:02] mdke: hmm [11:51] can anyone tell me why do I upload packages but they don't appear on my ppa? [11:52] falktx: are you getting any response email (success, failure) after 5 mins. [11:52] falktx: did you get any email about your upload? [11:52] no mail [11:52] but upload is sucessful [11:52] i've tried many settings now [11:52] * bigjools thinks about creating a FAQ for this [11:53] falktx: no email means you either didn't sign the upload or signed with a key not known to Launchpad [11:53] (it's mentioned in the first para at https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/UploadErrors) [11:54] i have 3 keys registered for my ppa [11:54] do i need to sign using the original one, or any of the 3 is fine? [11:54] any of the 3 should be fine... hrm. [11:55] you mean registered for a user? [11:56] see my page - ~falk-t-j [12:06] i think my 3rd fingerprint is not registered yet [12:06] maybe that's the problem [12:07] will upload again now [12:10] yay [12:10] works now [12:11] thanks bigjools for pointing that out [12:39] does anyone know why Lucid is appearing at the bottom of the versions table (oldest) instead of the top (newest) ?? https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux [12:40] apw: Bug 464014 [12:40] Launchpad bug 464014 in launchpad-registry "DistributionSourcePackageView.active_series sorts versions as strings" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/464014 [12:40] oh 10.10 ... heh [12:41] 10.04, but yes. [12:41] doh ... yeah === sale_ is now known as sale === henninge is now known as henninge-lunch === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha === noodles775_ is now known as noodles775 === barry` is now known as barry === bigjools is now known as bigjools-lunch === sale_ is now known as sale [13:50] Hum, what if someone is using a username on launchpad that I'd like to have, and that person has not used launchpad ever? [13:52] do usernames expire, or should I contact the user and ask if he'd like to change his uername [13:52] rdb, I would start by contacting the user [13:52] k, thanks === henninge-lunch is now known as henninge === bigjools-lunch is now known as bigjools === funkyHat is now known as funnyHat === funnyHat is now known as funkyPants === funkyPants is now known as funkyHat [15:18] how do i unsubscribe a team i administer from a given package's bugs === yofel_ is now known as yofel [15:26] Lol? http://pro-rsoft.com/screens/launchpad-question.png [15:27] (that happens when I click my email address verify link, btw [15:27] seems like a bug [15:33] rdb: that is a bug. could you go to http://launchpad.net/launchpad and file it? it would be great if you could add the screenshot as an attachment [15:34] kirkland: go to the package page and click "Subscribe to bug mail" [15:34] james_w`: got it, thanks! [15:34] bac, sure thing [15:46] bac, https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/471171 [15:46] Ubuntu bug 471171 in launchpad "email confirmation page is empty" [Undecided,New] === sarah is now known as Guest51319 === Guest51319 is now known as sarah === sarah is now known as Guest18585 === Guest18585 is now known as sarahh [16:19] rdb: thanks! [16:20] rockstar: you aren't really CHR today are you? [16:22] bac, no sir. I think gmb is. [16:23] rockstar: ok, i just was looking at the topi [16:23] topic [16:23] mrjazzcat: ping === bac changed the topic of #launchpad to: Read https://help.launchpad.net for help | Help contact: - | Join https://launchpad.net/~launchpad-users | This channel is logged: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ | Launchpad is open source: see channel #launchpad-dev [16:23] bac: hi Brad. [16:30] intellectronica, yo ... remember we were talking about nominations for per package uploaders ... that seems to still be broken === james_w` is now known as james_w [16:31] apw, intellectronica is unavailable currently. [16:32] rockstar, ok ta === deryck is now known as deryck[lunch] [16:51] hello, I have a question about the gpg key. I use a gpg key to sign my packages so I can upload them to my PPA. I recently added a new email address to my gpg key and synced with the keyserver (the getdeb address http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?search=0x0F16B5FC859F3940230248D2DD6DF71C412D1685&op=index ) but when I sign a package with this new address and upload I just do not get an email and the package does not appear in the ppa. I wait [16:51] ed for a few days now. [16:53] c_korn: did you tell LP about your new email address? === beuno is now known as beuno-lunch [16:56] bigjools: oh, didn't know I also have to do this. thanks. [16:57] c_korn: yes, it won't email people it doesn't know about, to avoid spam [17:06] bigjools: makes sense :) and I just got my mail that the package has been accepted. thanks [17:06] great === jon is now known as Guest27813 === deryck[lunch] is now known as deryck === beuno-lunch is now known as beuno [18:31] are the Ubuntu IRC channels offline? [18:31] nevermind... === danilos is now known as danilos-afk === rmcbride_ is now known as rmcbride === micahg1 is now known as micahg === EdwinGrubbs is now known as Edwin-lunch [20:47] I'm trying to subscribe to the ~ubuntuone-users mailing list, but it's throwing me an Oops!. I suspect it's my merged account, which also keeps me from changing my e-mails. [20:48] MenZa: suck [20:48] MenZa: what's the oops id? [20:48] mwhudson: OOPS-1402ED689 [20:48] https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=1402ED689 [20:49] * MenZa didn't know ubottu parsed oops IDs like bugs. [20:49] ConstraintNotSatisfied: [20:49] well _that's_ helpful [20:49] well, I can give you some background information [20:49] I had an account with the e-mail lasse@havelund.org. this was merged into my current, ~lhavelund, with e-mail lasse.havelund@gmail.com [20:50] so I'm thinking it's screaming because of a bad database correction and freaks out because it doesn't know which to use, or something to that effect [20:50] well maybe [20:50] I get OOPS (oopses?) when I try to +editemails as well. [20:50] that definitely shouldn't break anything though [20:50] sinzui: do you know anything about MenZa's problem? [20:51] Someone reported issues with merged accounts and U1 as well in an ubuntuone-client bug, iirc. [20:51] so something tells me merging isn't too good [20:52] (not an *error*, just inaccessible files in that case) [20:52] * sinzui looks [20:53] * sinzui has not seen anything like this since Account were separated from Person and there were users without a primary email address [20:53] hmm [20:53] bug report time? [20:53] * MenZa bites lip. [20:54] MenZa: but looking the death in the MailingList code, I wonder if you are a member of a dead team. [20:54] MenZa: hm, i only see one email addy on your profile, i would expect to see two [20:54] barry: what do you think about https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=1402ED689 [20:54] sinzui: hmm [20:54] oh login [20:54] MenZa: did you just register? [20:55] sinzui: no, my ~menza account is from 2005, and ~lhavelund which it was merged into, was created 2--3 weeks ago [20:55] I think the merge broke something... [20:55] seems like it, heh [20:55] ~lhavelund should not be accessible if you merged [20:56] ~lhavelund is the new account - ~menza is the old account [20:57] sinzui: i bet ~menza was subscribed to a mailing list with an EmailAddress that somehow isn't validated for ~lhavelund [20:57] mwhudson: I am not sure since validation does not work with users, it is a state on the address, once transfered, it is still the same object [20:58] barry: ping [20:58] mwhudson: That is correct - my old e-mail address is not validated, as I cannot +editemails. I get an oops there as well. Want an ID? [20:59] OOPS-1402EB708 [20:59] https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=1402EB708 [20:59] That's the one ^ [20:59] MenZa: i think that's more or less the same problem [21:00] * MenZa nods [21:00] I figured it would be [21:00] I've just been too lazy to report a bug (sorry D:) [21:01] I think the issue is that a list was deactivated, or someone performed DB surgery to give its email address to some other user, and that broken the DB [21:01] yeah, it's a data issue not a code issue [21:01] it seems [21:01] well that's good [21:01] We really need barry to answer this since he has the experience of what he had to do to fix the damage [21:01] I suppose [21:02] It's nothing urgent - I can wait. [21:02] Thanks muchly for your help thus far. [21:02] !helpersnack | sinzui, mwhudson [21:02] sinzui, mwhudson: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie! [21:05] Wow, that query to fine mailing lists for your teams should be optimised === RAOF_ is now known as RAOF === micahg1 is now known as micahg [22:53] hi - i accidently subscribed to a bug when I did an automatic bug report on a new 9.10 install and now im inundated with updates/duplicates... i've been trying to unsubscribe for about 4 days but I cant log in to launchpad without errors [22:53] on most of the tickets there isnt even an indication of the ticket i subscribed to [22:53] has launchpad been down for several days? === micahg1 is now known as micahg [22:54] thrope: No. It has been very much up. What goes wrong when you try to log in? [22:54] timeout error [22:54] oh actually i am logged in - it is just the links in the emails that time out [22:54] Ah. What is the link? [22:54] https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/417842 [22:54] Ubuntu bug 417842 in linux "WARNING: at /build/buildd/linux-2.6.31/kernel/power/suspend_test.c:52 suspend_test_finish+0x7c/0x80()" [Low,In progress] [22:55] in my profile i can see list of subscribed bugs [22:55] how can i unsubscribe from that one [22:55] actually, it does so here on bugs.edge [22:55] (Error ID: OOPS-1402D3725) [22:55] https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=1402D3725 [22:55] Must be a big bug. [22:56] I wonder if it's typing out due to the absolutely ridiculous number of duplicates. [22:56] Er. timing out. [22:56] so is there any way i can stop the emails? [22:56] i'm getting 20 or so an hour [22:56] thrope: To unsubscribe, add '/+subscribe' to the end of the URL. [22:56] the time out is somewhere in the subscription stuff [22:57] wgrant: brilliant - i think that worked! [22:57] Probably calculating subscribers from the duplicates. [22:57] althoguht looks like its timing out again === micahg1 is now known as micahg [22:58] Yeah, that bug has 337 duplicates. [22:58] It's probably timing out calculating the subscribers for all of those. [22:59] Hm. [22:59] No, that can't be right. [22:59] The subscribers list is loaded asynchronously. [23:00] wgrant: nevertheless, i think you might be right [23:00] - /srv/launchpad.net/production/launchpad-rev-8539/lib/lp/bugs/browser/../templates/bug-portlet-subscribers.pt [23:00] - Line 11, Column 4 [23:01] mwhudson: Ah, probably hunting through all the subscriptions of all of the bugs anyway, just to discover whether it needs to render a Subscribe or an Unsubscribe link... [23:01] Sad. [23:01] wgrant: oh could be [23:02] something is odd though, the reported sql time is only 2 seconds [23:02] And I suppose there's no breakdown of Python time. [23:02] well i think the report is probably lying [23:08] thrope: did you manage to unsubscribe [23:08] ? [23:10] no - it timed out [23:10] hm [23:10] the +subscribe page loaded for me [23:11] thrope: what was the oops the second time? [23:11] thrope: might be worth trying again [23:11] It will redirect after the POST to the page that times out, but it should have actually unsubscribed you. [23:11] the first page came up very quick with the button to unsubscribe [23:11] If you return to the page, does it instead ask you to subscribe? [23:11] oh right [23:11] but after clicking it timed out [23:11] thrope: you're probably unsubscribed then [23:11] and in my profile its still listed as a subscription [23:11] oh really? [23:11] hm [23:12] Oh. [23:12] That will execute another big query. [23:12] Very similar to the other one, to attempt to unsubscribe you from all dupes. [23:12] I'll try again [23:12] ah it worked this time! [23:12] Excellent. [23:13] Normal bugs work fine. But this bug is in no way normal :( [23:13] thanks alot... sorry for the trouble [23:13] yes i think its overzealous automatic reporting [23:13] i got the error coming back from resume and thought id try the automatic reporter [23:13] It doesn't help that the automatic reporting was automatically turned back on the Jaunty->Karmic upgrade. [23:13] But that has now been fixed. === yofel_ is now known as yofel [23:36] Is there a better place to talk about launchpadlib, or is this it?