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| JVilsack | Is anyone here for the Ubuntu Marketing meeting proposed by Martin Owens on 22-October? I'm not seeing anything on the fridge calendar, and its a bit too quiet in here for the meeting to be taking place. | 23:06 |
| JVilsack | If not, I'll assume said meeting has been aborted. | 23:07 |
| popey | JVilsack: shame :( | 23:25 |
| JVilsack | Agreed. :( Thanks for trying those that did show up. Sorry the moderator was a no show. | 23:26 |
| popey | JVilsack: seems the marketing team is destined to fail | 23:28 |
| cprofitt | popey, why is that? | 23:29 |
| cprofitt | We need to have a strong marketing effort... | 23:29 |
| JVilsack | Failure would intone that there was an attempted effort in the first place. :) Its unfortunate. | 23:29 |
| cprofitt | JVilsack, what can you and I do to stoke the fires then...? | 23:30 |
| popey | cprofitt: why is the team destined to fail? | 23:30 |
| popey | lack of action/meetings/leadership in no particular order | 23:30 |
| * cprofitt ponders | 23:31 | |
| cprofitt | popey, I will have to look in to that... | 23:31 |
| JVilsack | Long story short: the community effort marketing-wise is failing. Ubuntu's grassroots remains a large grassroots, yet individual effort. There is no concerted message aggregation or material development from the communal side, because those who have been there for a while abhor hierarchy. | 23:32 |
| popey | cprofitt: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-marketing/ | 23:32 |
| JVilsack | Check out the mailing-list. There is a lot of information in it :) | 23:32 |
| cprofitt | I really think we need to drive that team... I do a lot locally with presenting at non-Linux conventions and events... so I would like to assist with making that a concerted effort | 23:32 |
| popey | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-marketing/2009-October/003711.html that thread specifically | 23:32 |
| cprofitt | I will. | 23:32 |
| JVilsack | Please feel free to drop me a line cprofitt. I've tried three times to get this thing started and its met with heavy resistance each time. But you can email me at vilsack@gmail.com any time. | 23:33 |
| popey | JVilsack: resistence in what way? | 23:33 |
| JVilsack | In the interim, I've got to go image some servers. Thanks for trying! Thanks Popey! | 23:33 |
| popey | ok | 23:33 |
| cprofitt | JVilsack, I will... | 23:33 |
| cprofitt | popey, that was a good post | 23:39 |
| popey | which? | 23:39 |
| cprofitt | it aligns with one of my thoughts that I shared with Greg DeKoenigsberg | 23:40 |
| cprofitt | the individual one you had me read | 23:40 |
| cprofitt | to me focusing marketing on the positive advantages of FOSS in general will help raise awareness to Ubuntu and other distros | 23:40 |
| cprofitt | if we can skim 1% off the people using Windows it would have a far greater impact than taking 1% of the current Linux users and moving them to our distro | 23:41 |
| cprofitt | in that sense... I could care less about the distro they use... just that they become aware of a choice beyond Windows and OS X | 23:41 |
| cprofitt | docs reply appears to be square on as well. | 23:42 |
| cprofitt | other than his thought that activism should not be included. | 23:43 |
| cprofitt | popey, is there a current leader of the marketing team? | 23:44 |
| popey | no | 23:44 |
| popey | there is of course a marketing department within canonical | 23:44 |
| cprofitt | is there a historical reason behind there not being a marketing team leader? | 23:45 |
| popey | anyone who steps up needs thick skin | 23:45 |
| popey | marketing by committee doesnt work | 23:45 |
| cprofitt | true... true... | 23:46 |
| joaopinto | wouldn't Canonical marketing overlap with Ubuntu marketing ? | 23:46 |
| cprofitt | I just was not sure if there was some reason for there being no leader... mutiny... Anarcho-Syndicated Commune... other | 23:47 |
| cprofitt | joaopinto, I would think there would be an overlap... | 23:47 |
| cprofitt | but there still needs to be some coordination for the community part of it... | 23:47 |
| popey | joaopinto: yes, to some degree | 23:47 |
| popey | canonical marketing of course also has to market canonical corporate services | 23:48 |
| cprofitt | +1 popey | 23:48 |
| joaopinto | Canonical's marketing team is not very popular from a community relations perspective, an Ubuntu Community Marketting team should have Canonical's Marketing blessing | 23:49 |
| cprofitt | I would think that there is a difference to corporate shill marketing and grassroots user group type marketing | 23:49 |
| cprofitt | I hope that did not come off in the wrong way | 23:51 |
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