[00:56] <fta> https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-toolchain-r/+archive/test
[01:46] <hggdh> fta, I will prepare the debdiffs for murrine and clearlooks
[06:16] <markey> morning
[06:16] <markey> could you please fix the Chromium builds? pretty please with icing :)
[06:16]  * markey looks sweetly into the channel
[08:21] <eagles0513875> hey guys
[08:51] <chalcedony> my son told me to fix his father's mail client with IMAPS protocol - he uses thunderbird. my email is ssh and read mutt there... i dont know how to do this?
[09:30] <[reed]> fta: try setting plugins.unloadASAP to true
[09:30] <[reed]> see if that helps your CPU / memory issues
[11:44] <gnomefreak> anyone that has the file to pin a package ( i think it was in /etc/apt/preference.d ?
[11:50] <micahg> you mean /etc/apt/preferences
[11:50] <micahg> it doesn't seem to work 100% in karmic
[11:50] <gnomefreak> micahg: yes sorry
[11:50] <gnomefreak> micahg: it doesnt?
[11:51] <micahg> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/307455/
[11:51] <micahg> I have trouble with pinning some PPAs higher than others
[11:51] <gnomefreak> thanks
[11:52]  * gnomefreak reallly starting to hate gwibber :(
[11:52] <micahg> oh :-!, it's because I had the entries in the wrong order
[11:52] <micahg> apti
[11:52] <micahg> oops
[11:53] <gnomefreak> i cant get a damn browser to open (at ;east 3.6 atm
[11:53] <micahg> hmm
[11:53] <micahg> weird
[11:53] <micahg> what error?
[11:54] <gnomefreak> none so far give me a minute 3.7 opens fine
[11:55] <gnomefreak> gnomefreak@Development:~$ firefox-3.6
[11:55] <gnomefreak> gnomefreak@Development:~$ firefox-3.6
[11:55] <gnomefreak> gnomefreak@Development:~$
[11:55] <micahg> strace show anything?
[11:56] <gnomefreak> no but i think i knoe the issue.
[11:56] <eagles0513875> hey gnomefreak
[11:56] <gnomefreak> eagles0513875: hi
[11:56] <eagles0513875> chalcedony: you still here gnomefreak can help you with your tbird issues
[12:01] <eagles0513875> gnomefreak: chalcedony needs some help with tbird if shes still on
[12:01] <eagles0513875> someone mentioned to her to set it up to get email using imaps or something
[12:02] <gnomefreak> just to set it up is easy, what is the problem she is having?
[12:05] <gnomefreak> i got it working some how
[12:06] <eagles0513875> dunno only access she has to it is via some weird program forgot what its called
[12:06] <eagles0513875> wee something to use over ssh
[12:15] <gnomefreak> micahg: is this right? Pin: release o=LP-lp:~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/firefox/firefox-3.5.head.daily
[12:15] <gnomefreak> hold on
[12:15] <micahg> no
[12:15] <gnomefreak> wth
[12:15] <gnomefreak> win 1
[12:16] <micahg> o=LP-PPA-ubuntu-mozilla-daily
[12:16] <gnomefreak> micahg: yeah i was going to ask if it was right ;)
[12:17] <gnomefreak> micahg: <500?
[12:17] <micahg> yeah, if you don't want it to automatically upgrade
[12:17] <micahg> like for 3.5
[12:18] <gnomefreak> micahg: 3.5 will not use PPA version with a 450?
[12:18] <micahg> right
[12:18] <micahg> unless you explicitely install it
[12:28]  * gnomefreak smoke
[13:34] <gnomefreak> Namoroka is 3.6 right?
[13:36] <[reed]> indeed
[13:43] <gnomefreak> anyone else unable to launch 3.6?
[13:45] <gnomefreak> version 3.6~b2~hg20091101r32676+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd1
[16:25] <hggdh> fta: please have a look at bug 393534 -- this one might resolve the loop-on-drawing you have on bug 460710
[16:26] <hggdh> (not sure, there is no BT we can look at)
[18:58] <fta> hggdh, well, i'm running the fix everywhere i run evolution since last friday
[18:58] <[reed]> fta: try setting plugins.unloadASAP to true
[18:58] <[reed]> see if that helps your CPU / memory issues
[19:08] <micahg> asac: you around?
[19:57] <hggdh> fta, thanks. Upstream went for a full fix instead of asac's assertions; I have submitted a SRU request, but would like you to test later on
[20:04] <fta> hggdh, that's what i said previously, we need a real fix, not just a workaround
[20:04] <fta> but i'm busy with work
[22:22] <BUGabundo> boas
[22:50] <[reed]> fta: I want you to start building gio on 3.7
[22:51] <BUGabundo> what's GIO ?
[22:53] <micahg1> gnome i/o, I believe
[22:54] <[reed]> inded
[22:54] <[reed]> indeed
[22:54] <micahg> [reed]: did you guys start modifying the binary?
[22:54] <micahg> or rather the source?
[22:55] <[reed]> ?
[22:55] <[reed]> what do you mean?
[22:55] <micahg> why should we build it?
[22:55] <[reed]> oh, redhat contributed the patches
[22:55] <micahg> we should have the latest version right now
[22:55] <[reed]> and they are in the tree
[22:55] <[reed]> just have to use a configure switch
[22:55] <micahg> so you are modifying the source
[22:56] <[reed]> sure, but not with any ubuntu-specific patch
[22:56] <[reed]> (besides the changed configure flag)
[22:56] <[reed]> configure flag addition, that is
[22:56] <micahg> are the patches pushed upstream to gio?  is there a will appear in?version that they
[22:56] <[reed]> huh?
[22:57] <[reed]> it's Firefox support for gio/gvfs
[22:57] <[reed]> replacing gnomevfs
[22:57] <micahg1> the modifications that you made to gio, were they pushed upstream?
[22:57] <[reed]> [16:56:58] <[reed]> huh?
[22:57] <[reed]> [16:57:07] <[reed]> it's Firefox support for gio/gvfs
[22:57] <[reed]> [16:57:14] <[reed]> replacing gnomevfs
[22:58] <[reed]> there's no modifications to gio
[22:58] <micahg> oh
[23:01] <micahg> ah
[23:01] <micahg> spo, it's just changing --enable-gnomevfs to --enable-gio?
[23:04] <[reed]> yes
[23:07] <[reed]> only on tip/head/3.7, though
[23:08] <fta> [reed], i can have a look, just need to check the impact on our backports
[23:08] <[reed]> I think the code might be in 3.6, too, but it's still experimental
[23:08] <[reed]> so, wouldn't want it turned on there
[23:08] <[reed]> I just want more testing on it
[23:08] <micahg> ok, I have to talk to asac about it though...it seems to be built in xul but enabled in ff
[23:14] <fta> [reed], ok, seems we already had gio2 on hardy, sounds ok for backports
[23:14] <[reed]> cool
[23:14] <[reed]> you have people running 3.7 on hardy via backports?
[23:15] <fta> i don't know in detail
[23:16] <fta> firefox                        1194428  92.58%      5328  457768    1159  730173
[23:16] <fta> firefox-3.0                     786411  60.96%     54642  695087   23737   12945
[23:16] <fta> firefox-3.5                      71943   5.58%     25974   28601   17359       9
[23:16] <fta> firefox-2                        37668   2.92%      2868   34642     136      22
[23:16] <fta> firefox-3.1                       4102   0.32%         1    1036       1    3064
[23:16] <fta> firefox-3.6                       2003   0.16%       138    1301     563       1
[23:16] <fta> firefox-3.7                        516   0.04%        74     160     282       0
[23:16] <fta> firefox-3.2                        377   0.03%         0     152       0     225
[23:17]  * BUGabundo puts hand in the air
[23:17] <BUGabundo> 3.7 from PPA
[23:18] <fta> [reed], ^^ it's only opt-in stats, so it's a subset of the real figure
[23:19] <[reed]> wow
[23:19] <[reed]> surprising
[23:21] <fta> [reed], what?
[23:22] <[reed]> ... surprising that hardy folks would be running firefox 3.7
[23:22] <[reed]> since hardy is so old
[23:22] <fta> it's old but it's also lts
[23:22] <[reed]> true
[23:24] <fta> chromium-browser                 17113   1.33%      2358    8092    6659       4
[23:24] <fta> midori                           13525   1.05%       546   11938    1035       6
[23:24] <BUGabundo> hehe
[23:37] <fta> [reed], done
[23:38] <[reed]> fta: thanks
[23:38] <fta> [reed], i just did it in xul 1.9.3, ff3.7 should not require any change (iirc)
[23:38] <[reed]> yeah
[23:38] <[reed]> sounds right
[23:39]  * [reed] double-checks
[23:39] <micahg> fta: ff3.7 has a enable-gnomevfs flag
[23:39] <[reed]> browser/components/shell/src/nsGNOMEShellService.cpp
[23:40] <[reed]> looks like Firefox needs it, too
[23:42] <[reed]> fta: ^
[23:43] <[reed]> oh
[23:43] <[reed]> wait
[23:43] <[reed]> no, you're fine
[23:43] <[reed]> just xulrunner
[23:43] <[reed]> Firefox code uses it,  but it just checks for the service
[23:43] <[reed]> nothing that uses the actual define
[23:43] <[reed]> silly me
[23:44] <[reed]> I look forward to having people test that code
[23:46] <BUGabundo> [reed]: I guess tomorrow I'll know :)