| superm1 | chuk, if you want to help finish converting the GUI in laga's absence, he's been MIA for a while wrg to myth* | 00:00 |
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| chuk | how different is the new MCC? | 00:01 |
| chuk | and isn't it just a wrapper for the script? | 00:01 |
| superm1 | well it was rearchitected to not be monolithic, but instead pluggable | 00:01 |
| superm1 | so now it has a frontend that runs as a user and a backend that runs as root | 00:01 |
| superm1 | rather than running the whole thing as root in one big ugly app | 00:02 |
| chuk | but isn't the real work in modifying the script for ltsp-build-client? | 00:03 |
| superm1 | none of that should have changed | 00:03 |
| superm1 | which is why most of the diskless stuff should still work | 00:03 |
| superm1 | it just doesn't have the GUI wrapper around it | 00:03 |
| chuk | oh | 00:03 |
| chuk | I ran the script, but it built a thin client somehow | 00:03 |
| superm1 | there are special arguments for mythbuntu builds | 00:04 |
| superm1 | i dont know them off hand | 00:04 |
| superm1 | but they're all supported still | 00:04 |
| chuk | yes, I ran those, can I paste the statement I ran here? | 00:04 |
| superm1 | let me try to get laga in here, he's the one who understands the backend stuff more | 00:04 |
| superm1 | i really dont know it offhand | 00:05 |
| chuk | sure, thanks | 00:05 |
| Raspberry | hmm | 00:36 |
| Raspberry | so I blew away my mythbuntu box | 00:36 |
| Raspberry | and did a fresh install | 00:36 |
| Raspberry | "Fetch channels from listings source" doesn't seem to ever return aynthing | 00:37 |
| Raspberry | I've let it sit for 37 minutes now | 00:37 |
| Raspberry | I can log in to the schedulesdirect.org website with the user/pass -- so I know that's not the issue | 00:37 |
| Raspberry | I can "Scan for Channels" and that works ... but the schedules direct listing channel names don't match the way the channels identify themselves (except for 1) so that's the problem | 00:38 |
| Raspberry | the Data Direct Lineups are fetched properly... | 00:39 |
| superm1 | try running mythtv-setup in a terminal | 00:40 |
| superm1 | and check the terminal output when selecting said option | 00:40 |
| Raspberry | good idea | 00:40 |
| Raspberry | hmm | 00:43 |
| Raspberry | no errors in the terminal at all | 00:43 |
| Raspberry | odd | 00:43 |
| superm1 | no errors == working! | 00:44 |
| Cyber-Dogg | howdy | 00:44 |
| Raspberry | i don't think it's pulling it | 00:44 |
| Raspberry | :p | 00:44 |
| superm1 | or no... | 00:44 |
| Raspberry | I'm going to try to match the channel names to what SchedulesDirect has listed on their website | 00:45 |
| Raspberry | hopefully that'll pull them down | 00:45 |
| Cyber-Dogg | does the mythtv binary from apt-get have VDPAU support? | 00:45 |
| Raspberry | one channel is syncing the listing... so I think I can use that as my starting point | 00:45 |
| Cyber-Dogg | I see it in the playback profiles, but when I select it, it doesn't work and the error log says it wasn't compiled | 00:46 |
| chuk | cyber - .22 does | 00:46 |
| Raspberry | the new MythTV Player 0.7 is AWESOME btw | 00:46 |
| Cyber-Dogg | I'm pretty sure that's what I'm running | 00:46 |
| Cyber-Dogg | how do I check the version? | 00:47 |
| Cyber-Dogg | I'm pretty sure it's .22 but I'd like to see the build | 00:48 |
| chuk | mythbackend --version | 00:48 |
| Cyber-Dogg | 22593 | 00:48 |
| Cyber-Dogg | 22594 I mean | 00:48 |
| Cyber-Dogg | also... I see using_vdpau in the options compiled in | 00:49 |
| chuk | are you having a problem with VDPAU? | 00:51 |
| Cyber-Dogg | yeah... I can't get it to work at all | 00:52 |
| Cyber-Dogg | when I go in to the plyaback options and tell it to use any of the VDPAU profiles | 00:53 |
| chuk | what video card, and have you set it up in the playback options | 00:53 |
| Cyber-Dogg | nvidia 8200 | 00:53 |
| Cyber-Dogg | pretty sure it's supported there | 00:53 |
| Cyber-Dogg | I'm using the 185 driver | 00:53 |
| chuk | it is, I have one | 00:53 |
| chuk | what does it do when you try to play? | 00:53 |
| Cyber-Dogg | screen stays black and mythfrontend locks up | 00:54 |
| Cyber-Dogg | I look in the error log and I see.... | 00:54 |
| * Cyber-Dogg getting text | 00:54 | |
| Cyber-Dogg | VidOutVDPAU Error: Failed to initialise VDPAU | 00:54 |
| Cyber-Dogg | 2009-10-29 13:50:20.876 VideoOutputXv: Desired video renderer 'vdpau' not available. | 00:54 |
| Cyber-Dogg | codec 'None' makes 'xv-blit,xshm,xlib,' available, using 'xv-blit' instead. | 00:54 |
| Cyber-Dogg | I've seen another error about it saying it's noot compiled | 00:55 |
| Cyber-Dogg | this one... Failed to initialise VDPAU 2009-10-29 13:50:22.790 VideoOutput, Error: Not compiled with any useable video output method. | 00:56 |
| chuk | really shouldn't be any trick to it, is is a clean 9.10 install? | 00:57 |
| Cyber-Dogg | yeah | 00:57 |
| Cyber-Dogg | reformatted and installed 9.10 | 00:57 |
| Cyber-Dogg | one person has suggested something with the video format... | 00:57 |
| Cyber-Dogg | I have a firewire connection to my STBs | 00:57 |
| Cyber-Dogg | so should be mpeg2 right? | 00:58 |
| Cyber-Dogg | and that should be acceleratable | 00:58 |
| chuk | yes and yes | 00:58 |
| Cyber-Dogg | and I'm not transcoding or anything | 00:58 |
| Cyber-Dogg | any thoughts? | 00:58 |
| Cyber-Dogg | any additional information that might shed some light on something? | 00:59 |
| chuk | you sure you are using nvidia driver and not fallback? | 00:59 |
| Cyber-Dogg | yeah... I went into the proprietary driver tool and set the 185 to active and rebooted | 00:59 |
| Cyber-Dogg | it shows as active now | 00:59 |
| chuk | can you try it with .mkv file instead of your STB? | 01:00 |
| Cyber-Dogg | where do I get one? :-) | 01:00 |
| Cyber-Dogg | which VDPAU should I use? | 01:01 |
| Cyber-Dogg | high quality or normal? | 01:01 |
| chuk | I just create my own profile | 01:01 |
| chuk | and I turn off all deinterlacing to start | 01:01 |
| chuk | http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=123095 | 01:01 |
| chuk | some samples in 3rd post | 01:01 |
| Cyber-Dogg | which file do you want me to try? | 01:02 |
| chuk | nature one should be good | 01:02 |
| chuk | and you might want to try mplayer, just to see if vdpau is working at all on your system | 01:03 |
| Cyber-Dogg | k | 01:03 |
| Cyber-Dogg | I don't have mplayer evidently :-) | 01:03 |
| Cyber-Dogg | getting that | 01:03 |
| Cyber-Dogg | ts or h264? | 01:05 |
| chuk | h264 | 01:05 |
| Cyber-Dogg | working fine | 01:06 |
| chuk | check your CPU usage | 01:06 |
| chuk | should be minimal | 01:06 |
| Cyber-Dogg | mplayer isn't in top | 01:07 |
| chuk | at all? | 01:07 |
| chuk | should be 5% or so | 01:07 |
| Cyber-Dogg | it hits 2% once in a while and then drops back to 0 and disappears from the top list | 01:08 |
| chuk | ok, I would try to create a new profile | 01:08 |
| chuk | and select VDAPU as the render and choose no deinterlacing | 01:08 |
| chuk | just so you don't mess with the built in ones | 01:08 |
| Cyber-Dogg | k | 01:08 |
| Cyber-Dogg | so do i just want one entry and have it be for all then? | 01:09 |
| chuk | thats that I do, just choose >=0 | 01:09 |
| Cyber-Dogg | ok... here we go... | 01:10 |
| Cyber-Dogg | same thing... | 01:10 |
| Cyber-Dogg | screen went black... | 01:11 |
| chuk | try adding that video you downloaded to your video library | 01:11 |
| chuk | and playing it with myths builtin player | 01:11 |
| Cyber-Dogg | and I assume that frontend is locked up because escape won't get me back to the menu | 01:11 |
| Cyber-Dogg | k | 01:11 |
| chuk | since we know that video works, it should work in myth, if it does, then you at least know the problem is something in your STB setup | 01:11 |
| Cyber-Dogg | k | 01:11 |
| Cyber-Dogg | my media library only has an option for recordings...? | 01:13 |
| Cyber-Dogg | how do I get videos in it? | 01:13 |
| Cyber-Dogg | add the directoy through setup? | 01:13 |
| chuk | have to define in on the backend setup mythtv-setup | 01:13 |
| Cyber-Dogg | k | 01:13 |
| Cyber-Dogg | k... I added the videos directory | 01:16 |
| Cyber-Dogg | is that all I need to do? | 01:16 |
| chuk | go in the frontend now and go to media library, watch videos | 01:18 |
| Cyber-Dogg | mythfilldatabase is running now | 01:18 |
| chuk | I think you may have to scan for changes, if you don't see the video, hit M, and choose scan for changes | 01:18 |
| Cyber-Dogg | k | 01:18 |
| Cyber-Dogg | I don't see watch videos in media library | 01:19 |
| Cyber-Dogg | only watch recordings still | 01:19 |
| chuk | oh, you may not have mythvideo install.... | 01:19 |
| chuk | apt-get install mythvideo | 01:19 |
| Cyber-Dogg | ah... yeah | 01:19 |
| Cyber-Dogg | k | 01:19 |
| Cyber-Dogg | definitely didn't do that yet | 01:19 |
| Cyber-Dogg | could tha be related? | 01:20 |
| OpenMedia | I'm a bit surprised at the amount of CPU used by the frontend when it isn't being used. | 01:21 |
| Cyber-Dogg | ugh... | 01:22 |
| OpenMedia | I'm seeing about 15% of a CPU for the process. | 01:22 |
| Cyber-Dogg | ok... now the video menu option is there... I have the file in /var/lib/mythtv/videos but it doesn't show in the list | 01:22 |
| OpenMedia | Running strace shows "read(8, 0x9752b28, 4096) = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable)" a lot | 01:22 |
| OpenMedia | does anyone know if it is busy waiting on a resource? | 01:22 |
| yfwork | superm1 : ping | 01:24 |
| yfwork | Seems that patch for lirc (zilog) works for people : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1294825&page=3 | 01:25 |
| yfwork | Can you add it to lirc-modules-source? | 01:26 |
| Cyber-Dogg | h264 isn't in the file association list | 01:26 |
| Cyber-Dogg | should Interal be the player? | 01:27 |
| Cyber-Dogg | chuk: same thing... not compiled with any useable video output method | 01:28 |
| Cyber-Dogg | any thoughts on where I should look? | 01:31 |
| Cyber-Dogg | ... so quiet | 01:50 |
| Cyber-Dogg | so... I just saw other people online are having the same issue I am | 01:52 |
| Cyber-Dogg | http://www.mail-archive.com/universe-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com/msg152251.html | 01:52 |
| fritz3000g | Sorry I accidentally closed Pidgin. Anyone know why dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg wouldn't work in karmic? By "not work", I mean not actually do anything - just return to the next line. | 02:19 |
| mattwj2002 | hi guys | 03:02 |
| mattwj2002 | a bit off topic | 03:02 |
| mattwj2002 | anyone know howto install boxee in 9.10? | 03:02 |
| tgm4883 | no | 03:03 |
| darthanubis | waaaay OT lol | 03:04 |
| mattwj2002 | :) | 03:05 |
| mattwj2002 | it looks like it installs with this guide | 03:11 |
| mattwj2002 | http://forum.boxee.tv/showthread.php?p=60489 | 03:11 |
| darthanubis | Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 67108864 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 92 bytes) in /usr/share/mythtv/mythweb/includes/translate.php on line 142 | 03:55 |
| darthanubis | forgetaboutit | 04:01 |
| Cuco3 | Hello everyone | 04:20 |
| Cuco3 | Does anyone know why when i press "Watch TV", the screen just flashes black for a split second then returns to "Watch TV" menu | 04:21 |
| Cuco3 | ? | 04:21 |
| MythbuntuGuest09 | I just upgraded to Mythbuntu 9.10 today. I am getting the error on boot "Error: MythTV is using all inputs, buy there are no active recordings?". Restarting the baclend fixes it. In the forums there is a reference to this error only for the HDHomerun, I have 2 PVR-150s and a PVR-500. Has anyone seen this condition where mythtv-backen boots prior to the local tuners being ready? In 9.10 where can one change th | 04:31 |
| Cuco3 | Does anyone know why when i press "Watch TV", the screen just flashes black for a split second then returns to "Watch TV" menu | 04:38 |
| Cuco3 | ------------------------------------- | 04:38 |
| Cuco3 | when i go to "information", it says "Tuner1 is unavailable" | 04:38 |
| Cuco3 | but I know my tuner works fine, through "TVTime" | 04:39 |
| superm1 | yfwork, Yeah, its on todo. i'll let you know when its on | 04:40 |
| Cuco3 | whats the command to stop/start and see the status of mythtv-backend, please? | 04:44 |
| MythbuntuGuest09 | Cuco3... Sounds like you may have the same issue... | 04:44 |
| Cuco3 | I thought it was "mythtv-backend status" or "mythtv-backend start" but it says command not found | 04:44 |
| MythbuntuGuest09 | sudo /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend restart | 04:44 |
| Cuco3 | ty | 04:44 |
| Cuco3 | Guest09 I'm still on Jaunty, would that also affect me? | 04:45 |
| Cuco3 | (the error you're experiencing) | 04:45 |
| MythbuntuGuest09 | If that works for you and it only is an issue on boot then we may have the same problem. | 04:45 |
| MythbuntuGuest09 | Maybe... Depens on your tuners and timing I suppose... | 04:45 |
| MythbuntuGuest09 | Cuco3 - Is it only at inital boot you are seeing this error? | 04:46 |
| Cuco3 | hmm | 04:46 |
| Cuco3 | nope, I tried restart, no luck | 04:46 |
| Cuco3 | man I'm so dying to get this pvr going! :D | 04:50 |
| Cuco3 | :/ | 04:54 |
| Cuco3 | is a video source necessary? | 05:00 |
| MythbuntuGuest09 | Cuco3 - In the backend setup did you set up the tuner, source and then link them together? | 05:03 |
| Cuco3 | lemme check. | 05:04 |
| Cuco3 | i know I have the tuner | 05:04 |
| Cuco3 | I'm not sure what a video source is :-/ | 05:04 |
| Cuco3 | but I've tried configuring it | 05:04 |
| Cuco3 | can you recommend what video source I should be using? | 05:05 |
| Cuco3 | right now i have "transmitted guide only" | 05:05 |
| Cuco3 | ok got it working | 05:14 |
| Cuco3 | but man | 05:14 |
| Cuco3 | it's like 2 seconds slow to respond to my satellite remote control action. is this normal? | 05:14 |
| MythbuntuGuest09 | Are you using schedules direct.. Or what source? | 05:15 |
| hads | You mean you push a button on your satelitte box remote and it takes a couple of seconds to show up through myth? | 05:16 |
| hads | If so yes, that is normal. | 05:16 |
| hads | That's not really how it's intended to be used. | 05:17 |
| Cuco3 | hads: yes, that's what I'm referring to. thanks. how is it intended to be used? | 05:18 |
| Cuco3 | Guest09: I'm using "Transmitted Guide Only (EIT)" ... I'm not sure which one to use. I know DirectSchedules charges but I don't want to pay a monthly fee. | 05:19 |
| hads | Cuco3: Typically you use a remote directly with the Myth PC, and then an IR blaster from the PC to the STB to control changing channel on it. | 05:21 |
| hads | Myth always records TV and then plays it to you, this means that it's a couple seconds behind live all the time. | 05:22 |
| hads | It's also how you can pause/rewind/fast forward etc. | 05:22 |
| Cuco3 | ahhh | 05:22 |
| hads | It also means that if you are halfway thorough a show that you've watched from the start then you can hit record and it will save the entire show. | 05:23 |
| Cuco3 | I have an IR remote but I don't think it connects to my STB. Lemme check right quick | 05:23 |
| Cuco3 | ah! interesting!!! | 05:23 |
| Cuco3 | i like it already :D | 05:23 |
| hads | You need an IR remote for your PC. Like a MS MCE or something. | 05:23 |
| Cuco3 | I wonder if my XBOX 360 remote works | 05:23 |
| Cuco3 | the media remote for 360 | 05:23 |
| hads | Not sure. You should be able to pick up a MCE remote pretty cheap though. | 05:24 |
| hads | Where are you in the world? | 05:24 |
| Cuco3 | miami, fl | 05:24 |
| hads | It's funny how people in the US quote their city/state when asked that and people in the rest of the world say their country :) | 05:25 |
| Cuco3 | lol | 05:25 |
| Cuco3 | its true | 05:26 |
| hads | Something like that I think; http://www.amazon.com/Vista-Certified-Infrared-Receiver-Ultimate/dp/B000ST7QPA/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1257139580&sr=8-3 | 05:26 |
| hads | But you can search from there with your preferred retailers. | 05:27 |
| Cuco3 | thanks | 05:28 |
| Cuco3 | but you say the IR blaster has to connect to my satellite stb? | 05:28 |
| hads | You just stick the blaster near the IR remote port on the STB and it pretends to be a remote when changing channels. | 05:29 |
| hads | Those MCE remotes should come with a blaster part but you should check before you purchase. | 05:29 |
| hads | Also check with someone from the US as there may be other ways to control your STB that I don't know about. | 05:29 |
| Cuco3 | it'd have to be a UHF remote since the stb is not in my room :-/ | 05:31 |
| Cuco3 | lol pressed the power button on the remote and it shut down my computer :-p | 05:36 |
| hads | heh | 05:36 |
| Cuco3 | do you know if I have to configure this remote through mythtv | 05:39 |
| Cuco3 | weird, my recordings don't have any audio | 05:44 |
| hads | Cuco3: What remote? | 05:44 |
| Cuco3 | hads: it came with an AverMedia PCI300 | 05:45 |
| hads | Oh you already have one with your PC? Yes you will need to configure it. You should be able to do so through mythbuntu-control-centre | 05:46 |
| Cuco3 | yeah, it's kinda old, but gets the job done! | 05:47 |
| Cuco3 | hmm now my mythtv front end isn't displaying video | 05:58 |
| Cuco3 | after installing mythbuntu control center | 05:58 |
| Cuco3 | nvm got it working | 06:05 |
| Cuco3 | can someone recommend any ideas on why this audio is working for live tv, but when I check my recordings, there is no audio? | 06:06 |
| nblah | I am having problems recording tv, i schedule items but they never seem to record, when i go to watch recording all i get are items i have watched on livetv in the past | 08:43 |
| nblah | my recording directory is empty and has same permissions as livetv directory which has data inside | 08:43 |
| nblah | i can see things under previously recorded when i go to manage my recordings, this lists the things I wanted to record however I dont have the option to playback on to re-record, delete, etc | 08:44 |
| hads | !logs | 08:45 |
| Zinn | MythTV logs are stored in /var/log/mythtv/ You can use mythbuntu-log-grabber from the Applications menu to automatically post the most relevant logs to our pastebin. | 08:45 |
| hads | Have you got free space? Perhaps they are recording and then expiring or something. | 08:45 |
| nblah | yea I have mythtv pointing to a seperate 1tb drive | 08:46 |
| nblah | Zinn, which logs are most helpful when troubleshooting recording? front or back? | 08:46 |
| hads | Make sure it's mounted, start with the simple things :) | 08:47 |
| hads | Zinn is a bot. mythbackend log is the most important. | 08:47 |
| nblah | hads, yea its mounted, /home is on a second disk and myth uses a subdir of /home | 08:47 |
| nblah | ok i had some recording fail today so I will try match it up when when it failed and paste it | 08:48 |
| nblah | http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/m44707f88 | 08:54 |
| nblah | that was something that should have recorded today | 08:54 |
| nblah | i dont know why it it was recording something else... it always seems to record what I am watching on livetv, is that normal? | 08:55 |
| hads | Yes | 08:55 |
| hads | That gives you the puase/rewind/etc. functionality. | 08:56 |
| hads | Looks like you have something wrong with your card/channel config. Can you watch that particular channel live? | 08:56 |
| nblah | all channels work fine live | 08:57 |
| hads | What version are you on? | 09:00 |
| hads | #5739 | 09:01 |
| nblah | mythbackend version: branches/release-0-22-fixes [22594] | 09:03 |
| hads | #5352 | 09:03 |
| hads | I was trying to look up some bugs on svn.mythtv.org for you but it's down at the moment. | 09:03 |
| hads | Those are the bug numbers. | 09:04 |
| nblah | oh, bummer. yea the same hardware was working under 0.21 | 09:04 |
| hads | Not something I've seen before so I can't really help much more right now without access to mythtv.org | 09:05 |
| nblah | no problem, thanks for your time | 09:07 |
| nblah | would you know why i get stuttering issues watching HD tv? I constantly get this in my log: 2009-11-02 08:02:55.552 NVP(0): prebuffering pause | 09:08 |
| nblah | looking at the timestamp there is like 10 every second | 09:09 |
| hads | For your other error, if you get that all the time (ERROR when trying to delete file) then there's possibly something wrong with your storage group setup. | 09:12 |
| hads | And the prebuffering pause error I don't know about. | 09:13 |
| nblah | ok, ill check all my storage group settings | 09:14 |
| hads | If it's the same file all the time then it could be just a one off case of a missing file. | 09:15 |
| hads | Which is not a big deal. | 09:16 |
| darther | hello everyone. Can you help me with homebrew serial receiver installation under mythbuntu 9.10? thank | 09:20 |
| nblah | hads, yea i read that i can just touch it to shut it up and trick it | 09:22 |
| nblah | seems to be the one file over and over | 09:22 |
| hads | Oh yeah if it's just one do that. | 09:23 |
| hads | I thought you were saying it was all the time as in lots of different files. | 09:23 |
| nblah | is there a way to prevent screensaver starting when I am watching tv other than turn it off completely? | 10:17 |
| nblah | why does my lcd never connect? I have LCDd running and all i get is the date and heartbeat on the LCD but never show info | 10:47 |
| nblah | Connecting to lcd server: localhost:6545 (try 8 of 10) | 10:47 |
| kresp0 | is there somebody that can help me to run mythtv-setup? | 12:36 |
| kresp0 | see this: http://pastebin.com/m66c804 | 12:36 |
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| darther | Hello, need help with my homebrew serial receiver to work, cant find any guide. thank for reply | 16:25 |
| danielqb | hello! | 16:52 |
| danielqb | i have a question | 16:52 |
| danielqb | i install mythubuntu in my home server in ubuntu server, i don't need graphic interface and i think i can make this my server backend and the oters PC in my house the clients frontend, but i don't know how make the next step in the instalation if this is in grafical mode. | 17:06 |
| superm1 | you need vnc or X forwarding to run mythtv-setup once | 17:07 |
| superm1 | or a local display on that box | 17:07 |
| danielqb | is posible configure this service in text mode? | 17:08 |
| danielqb | or tranfer the configuration files from my personal PC ? | 17:08 |
| superm1 | No | 17:11 |
| superm1 | its a Qt4 app | 17:11 |
| superm1 | and needs access to your hardware | 17:11 |
| superm1 | tuner, drives, etc | 17:11 |
| superm1 | the best thing to do IMO is to do a normal backend only install from a mythbuntu CD when you have a display hooked up | 17:12 |
| superm1 | get everything configured, and make sure you picked vnc during install | 17:12 |
| superm1 | in the future if you evar have to change something, you can connect via VNC, otherwise you dont ever need to plug a display in again | 17:13 |
| superm1 | installing in text mode is more pain than is necessary | 17:13 |
| olejl1 | I have a couple of questions. First this one: http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/f538599c6 | 17:14 |
| olejl1 | I was just browsing the menu and suddenly mythtv stopped responding | 17:15 |
| olejl1 | 'top' is showing 100% CPU usage. | 17:15 |
| olejl1 | Second question is why is it that everytime I start my FE, I have to select language, IP address ++ before the FE is started? | 17:17 |
| danielqb | ok, in this case i don't need all time the graphical mode because my serv is a low machine and y have more services in this, ¿myth need the grafic interface every time up? used in this? | 17:22 |
| danielqb | i can install the graphic but i dont know if is gnome or other | 17:23 |
| superm1 | danielqb, so if you install from a mythbuntu disk it installs with Xfce | 17:27 |
| superm1 | and gdm for starting X | 17:27 |
| superm1 | you can always disable gdm later too | 17:27 |
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| danielqb | then you recommend me install xfce?, if I like it because I would not take much the machine and I can't reinstall my OS. | 18:08 |
| superm1 | it sounded like you just did a fresh install, in which case i would have recommended just reinstalling the OS | 18:13 |
| superm1 | that's the absolute easiest scenario | 18:14 |
| superm1 | otherewise, you need a window manager installed and either VNC or a full X load | 18:14 |
| darther | any homebrew serial receiver user with 9.10 here? | 18:19 |
| darthanubis | so basically if I want to use Mythtv/Mytbuntu unobstructed I should remove Pulseaudio? | 19:10 |
| darthanubis | Why does mythtv hog the sound system and prevent pulseaudio from working while the frontend is working? | 19:11 |
| darthanubis | maybe that should be my project, removing pulseaudio from my backend | 19:11 |
| darthanubis | sigh | 19:11 |
| darthanubis | does mythbuntu come with pulseaudio by default? | 19:13 |
| superm1 | no it doesnt | 19:19 |
| superm1 | there is an env variable to allow pulseaudio that upstream added | 19:20 |
| superm1 | like EXPERIMENTALLY_ALLOW_PULSEAUDIO or something like that | 19:20 |
| darthanubis | well, i'll try to purge pulseaudio from my system. If that goes badly I'll just backup the database and go for the mythbuntu install | 19:23 |
| mrand | !pulseaudio darthanubis | 19:24 |
| Zinn | Sorry I don't know about pulseaudio darthanubis | 19:24 |
| mrand | blah | 19:24 |
| mrand | !pulseaudio | 19:25 |
| Zinn | Pulse Audio, aka kitten killer. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PulseAudio for more information. Pulse Audio seems to cause problems with MythTV, so if you don't have any dependencies on it, it's recommended that you remove it. | 19:25 |
| darthanubis | so mythbuntu is using ALSA right | 19:25 |
| darthanubis | mrand, you forgot the | after pulseaudio | 19:25 |
| mrand | darthanubis.... Pulse Audio, aka kitten killer. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PulseAudio for more information. Pulse Audio seems to cause problems with MythTV - if you are having trouble, see https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/460579 for potential work-arounds | 19:25 |
| mrand | yeah. | 19:25 |
| darthanubis | :) | 19:25 |
| darthanubis | mrand, thanks I'll try that and post my results | 19:27 |
| superm1 | FWIW, 0.23 should have proper pulseaudio support | 19:32 |
| superm1 | there is going to be an actual setting in General settings for choosing pulse | 19:32 |
| mrand | yay | 19:33 |
| superm1 | and if the AV sync issues are sorted out, i hope it will be able to dynamically fill it with pulse when pulse is running | 19:33 |
| superm1 | as we get closer to 0.23 we'll have to look more closely | 19:33 |
| hads | I saw that, hopefully it all pulls together as that would be neat. | 19:33 |
| hads | I do like the idea of routing sound around the place over the LAN | 19:34 |
| superm1 | that's the biggest delta for ubuntu and mythbuntu installs though | 19:36 |
| superm1 | if it gets to the point that pulse and myth get along, we can probably evaluate using gnome as a base too instead of xfce | 19:36 |
| superm1 | after doing some memory usage tests and what not | 19:36 |
| hads | Good point. | 19:54 |
| hads | One of my frontends uses Gnome. | 19:54 |
| hads | Currently. XFCE was a bit broken when I installed it for some reason. | 19:54 |
| hads | (this was during alpha/beta stage) | 19:55 |
| superm1 | yeah there was random breakage during development, but it should be good now | 19:57 |
| superm1 | i suppose the other worry is what compiz does to myth | 19:57 |
| superm1 | i'm not sure if it hurts/doesnt do anything or what | 19:57 |
| hads | Yeah I just haven't got around to switching it back now. I assume it's fine. | 20:00 |
| hads | So far I haven't noticed anything odd. | 20:00 |
| hads | (with using Gnome) | 20:00 |
| hipitihop | I have had only mythtv-themes held back for over a week and no other updates available... now that karmic is out, should I be doing a dist-upgrade ? | 20:09 |
| superm1 | use update-manager to update it or do a dist-upgrade yes | 20:10 |
| superm1 | it will want to remove unsupported themes | 20:10 |
| hipitihop | superm1, thanks done. | 20:56 |
| hipitihop | if I am already running a nas where my photo collection is stored, what is the normal way to get my mythtv to just use that directly, it seems to have its own storage locations | 20:58 |
| hads | You need to mount the NAS either at the mythtv location or somewhere else on the filesystem and adjust the myth settings. | 21:01 |
| hads | To do that you use a network filesystem such as NFS/CIFS depending on what your NAS supports. | 21:01 |
| hipitihop | hads, nas supports nfs/cifs and also some apple protocol, so nfs is the linux way ? and so I should mount the nfs share via fstab and then configure mythtv to use that mount point or do I put some simlink into mythtv's normal location ? | 21:05 |
| hads | You've got it. I would use NFS myself. | 21:05 |
| hads | You can mount it where ever you like, either directly at the /var/lib/mythtv/whatever point, or choose your own. | 21:07 |
| hipitihop | hads, of course, I keep forgetting the consistency and simplicity of the linux file system ... still a noob who knows enough to be dangerous | 21:10 |
| hads | hipitihop: Yes it is nice isn't it. | 21:21 |
| hipitihop | I guess I'll need to install an nfs client or common or something, looking | 21:23 |
| hads | nfs-common | 21:23 |
| hads | then test it with 'sudo mount 192.168.3.2:/nas/directory /mnt/point' | 21:23 |
| hads | After that you can add it to fstab | 21:24 |
| hipitihop | yup ... how hard would it be to offload/spill recordings on to a nas share ? | 21:24 |
| hads | Just add the mounted directory to a storage group, done :) | 21:25 |
| hads | Myth will know that's it's not local and prefer local storage until it's either full or has several recordings in progress already. | 21:25 |
| hads | If you want it to prefer remote storage you need to add some priority or something. | 21:26 |
| hipitihop | that's cool... although there is some mention on wiki that things like vlc could not play it back when storage groups are used | 21:30 |
| hipitihop | so I take it I'll mount to /var/lib/mythtv/pictures looks like the standard mythtv setup | 21:36 |
| Tuv0k | https://bugs.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/+bug/460579/comments/6 | 21:37 |
| duffrecords | has anyone had trouble with huge fonts? I upgraded to Karmic yesterday and the fonts are enormous. usually this is because I'm using a television as a monitor and all I have to do is edit the dpi in gdm.conf, but that doesn't work this time | 21:42 |
| hipitihop | just installed nfs-common , is there anything else I need to run for it startup ? I get following when doing mount "mount.nfs: rpc.statd is not running" | 21:44 |
| * hipitihop runs off to google nfs docs | 21:44 | |
| hipitihop | hads, I actually notice the nfs-common install failed with "invoke-rc.d: initscript idmapd, action "restart" failed. | 22:19 |
| hipitihop | dpkg: error processing nfs-common (--configure): | 22:20 |
| hipitihop | subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" | 22:20 |
| superm1 | hipitihop, there was a bug if you installed from early betas that might cause that | 22:28 |
| superm1 | search for bugs on nfs-common on launchpad and you should see the workaround | 22:28 |
| hads | Sorry, been away switching DSL providers. | 22:29 |
| hipitihop | superm1, yes I installed from one of the betas a month ago | 22:30 |
| superm1 | that's why then | 22:30 |
| superm1 | it was fixed at gold | 22:30 |
| hipitihop | and none of the update fix it ? | 22:32 |
| hipitihop | I have been assuming that doing update && upgrade would amount to the same as the release version | 22:35 |
| hads | It should be close to it. | 22:35 |
| hads | There are always a few corner cases | 22:35 |
| tgm4883 | well updates bring you to release, unless you can't upgrade | 22:36 |
| hipitihop | I wonder if that may also be effecting my lirc | 22:36 |
| hads | bug 441055 | 22:36 |
| Zinn | Bug 441055 in nfs-utils (Ubuntu) "package nfs-common 1:1.2.0-2ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade:" [High, Fix Released] http://www.launchpad.net/bugs/441055 | 22:36 |
| hipitihop | hads, that mentions package nfs-utils but apt-get install fails to find that too ..reading bug again | 22:41 |
| superm1 | this was a corner case because ubiquity decided not to copy a library | 22:42 |
| superm1 | dont think that's the exact bug | 22:42 |
| superm1 | there is one i filed | 22:42 |
| superm1 | bug 457896 | 22:43 |
| Zinn | Bug 457896 in nfs-utils (Ubuntu) "package nfs-common (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Medium, Fix Released] http://www.launchpad.net/bugs/457896 | 22:43 |
| superm1 | run sudo rpc.idmapd -v -f | 22:44 |
| superm1 | and it will tell you waht needs to be reinstalled | 22:44 |
| hads | Ah sorry, wrong one :) | 22:45 |
| hipitihop | superm1, I get "rpc.idmapd: libnfsidmap: using domain: localdomain | 22:46 |
| hipitihop | rpc.idmapd: libnfsidmap: loaded plugin libnfsidmap_nsswitch.so.0 for method nsswitch | 22:46 |
| hipitihop | rpc.idmapd: Expiration time is 600 seconds. | 22:46 |
| hipitihop | rpc.idmapd: Opened /proc/net/rpc/nfs4.nametoid/channel | 22:46 |
| hipitihop | rpc.idmapd: Opened /proc/net/rpc/nfs4.idtoname/channel | 22:46 |
| superm1 | oh looks good then | 22:46 |
| superm1 | bug fixed | 22:47 |
| superm1 | so things should be fine, otherwise you've got another bug | 22:47 |
| hipitihop | does above return after a while or something that keeps running ? | 22:47 |
| superm1 | not sure | 22:49 |
| superm1 | that was just to test it | 22:49 |
| hipitihop | tried the mount in another ssh session and still get same "rpc.statd is not running" error | 22:50 |
| hipitihop | so if it is working in gold, should I remove nfs-common and others and try a fresh install of them ? | 22:55 |
| Spirits-Sight | Does any one have the website for HDhomerunner | 22:57 |
| hads | The manufacturers website (www.silicondust.com) is the first hit on google. | 23:05 |
| hipitihop | superm1, hads. I got it !! ... I removed nfs-common, then I did 'sudo stop idmapd' and then installed nfs-common again. Install worked this time and now mount works too. Thanks for your help | 23:06 |
| hads | Cool, well done. | 23:07 |
| Spirits-Sight | what is recommend for a system that need to connect compsition type device? like VCR <-- no not using this device that is like old school | 23:30 |
| hipitihop | I just noticed the following in my dmesg 144515.337039] svc: failed to register lockdv1 RPC service (errno 97). | 23:39 |
| hipitihop | [145429.202534] mythfrontend.re[10594]: segfault at 10 ip 00007f29b4722c00 sp 00007fffc3353e48 error 4 in libQtCore.so.4.5.2[7f29b45c4000+22d000] | 23:39 |
| hipitihop | [145884.398305] mythfrontend.re[12944]: segfault at 10 ip 00007fa5a535ec00 sp 00007fff4368dc88 error 4 in libQtCore.so.4.5.2[7fa5a5200000+22d000] | 23:39 |
| mrand | hipitihop: is it doing that continously, or just one (or at least, rarely)? | 23:44 |
| hipitihop | mrand, I only noticed recently as I have been using the picture gallery now that I have managed to mount my nas on nfs | 23:59 |
| hipitihop | mrand, can I help with any other log info ? | 23:59 |
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